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00:00.08rg1_anyone know a source URL or whatever where folks like me want to have local numbers in different cities - in other words, someone that PRI DID numbers they want to exchange/sell?
00:00.12loke_fugitivo what is zaptel? a phone?
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00:00.25fugitivoloke_: modules need to use some kind of hardware
00:00.29fugitivoneeded
00:00.36loke_gotcha
00:00.47loke_fugitivo what os you use for asterisk?
00:00.52funjonheh
00:00.53fugitivogentoo
00:00.56loke_nice
00:01.03loke_compiling is a bitch tho
00:01.08fugitivo:)
00:01.31loke_someone should show you gentoo guys... binaries
00:01.39loke_j/k ;P
00:01.40funjonbah
00:01.42fugitivolol
00:01.44funjonbinaries are evil :)
00:01.56fugitivocompiling is a game with good hardware
00:01.57loke_depends if you want your os installed before your dead
00:02.05fugitivoand emerge is the ultimate app for a sysadmin ;)
00:02.11loke_i like apt-get
00:02.15funjonit takes me 40 hours to build everything on my laptop
00:02.21danorg1: You can use www.didx.org or ask here (cheaper or free depending on what you're looking for.
00:02.25funjoneverything being kde, gnome, enlightenment, openoffice, etc.
00:02.29loke_shit i can have a debain box built in 40 minutes or less
00:02.38funjonyeah yeah
00:02.39zipppthere are only so many optimizations per configurations, we have the resources to make a binary distro as optimized as gentoo
00:02.41funjoni like gentoo
00:02.45funjoni'm willing to burn the weekend
00:02.49Sedoroxgentoo roxors
00:02.53loke_on my amd x2 box, debain install was like 5 minutes
00:02.55fugitivoloke_: i like apt-get too, but emerge has better stuff
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00:03.05zipppthe worst thing about gentoo is half the people who use it don't know the optimizations, therefore compiling without them
00:03.13loke_apt-get has all the security/hacker tools in the apt repositories
00:03.19fugitivozippp: that's true
00:03.29loke_i love apt
00:03.32zipppthey just use it because it is 733T or whatever
00:03.45fugitivozippp: slack is 31337
00:03.51loke_well, later guyz, thanks for the help, ill read up on *
00:03.52bprice20hey a gentoo conversation, I use gentoo & tweak out my make.conf but I agree thats a bad thing but not the worst thing
00:03.53fugitivogentoo is a new distro
00:03.54danogentoo...great features, all the bells and whistles, slick.  For a desktop.  A bit too bleeding edge for servers IMHO.
00:03.57zipppyea, however that shit goes
00:04.11zippppersonally, debian on the server and suse for the desktop
00:04.16zipppwith opensuse now here
00:04.29zipppbut always debian on the servers
00:04.34loke_debian on a server is suicide, unless you have mad kern patches for security
00:04.38danoI run debian for my Asterisk primary.
00:04.39funjonhmm
00:04.41funjonAug 29 17:09:21 WARNING[20289]: loader.c:345 ast_load_resource: app_voicemail.so: load_module failed, returning -1
00:04.43loke_i like debian on the lappy
00:04.46funjonbad
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00:04.52loke_linux kernel is shit
00:04.55zipppha
00:04.57loke_as far as security
00:05.00fugitivogentoo is stable when you want, and unstable when you want
00:05.07netnameusWhen i try and boot my asterisk box I get "Setting hostname asterisk1.local"  - FALIED
00:05.13netnameushow can I remedy this situation?
00:05.21loke_openbsd for security on servers, and debian on the lappy
00:05.29loke_Cresl1n lol
00:05.29fugitivonetnameus: that's not an asterisk question
00:05.31netnameusit also says (not sure if this is supposed to say this)
00:05.34loke_Cresl1n ight im out
00:05.35danonetnameus/etc/resolv.conf
00:05.38loke_lates
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00:06.05funjonwhy the heck is it trying to log into the db for voicemail
00:06.14bprice20ok real asterisk ? now,... can I use privacy.conf on a per user basis privacymanager app is soo undocumented
00:06.15fugitivoeverytime i say i use gentoo, a discussion starts
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00:06.36generalhananyone used a cisco 7960 with asterisk ???
00:06.38bprice20so if some users want anonymous call block they can have it and its not global
00:06.45zipppfugitivo, it just sparks me because people use it for the absolute wrong reasons
00:06.54zipppgeneralhan, 80211
00:07.05generalhan???
00:07.06bprice20generalham I am having same crap I can't get my 7960 working either
00:07.17generalhani cant even get it started
00:07.29generalhanit says in the docs to edit the SIPdefault.cnf file
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00:07.33fugitivozippp: well, people uses what they like most
00:07.34zipppsorry, 7920 is 80211
00:07.35generalhanbut i dont even have that !!
00:07.43zipppnever remember cisco model numbers
00:07.46danofunjon: is your voicemail.conf file found and parsed?
00:07.55bprice20generalham I'm far beyond that
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00:08.00zipppfugitivo, that is the beauty, I can use what I want
00:08.02generalhanwell help me with that then ! please !
00:08.03generalhanlol
00:08.06fugitivozippp: yep
00:08.23bprice20I have sip.cnf, mac.cnf all the other varios files sip firmware etc, I just can't get the darn thing to register
00:08.38generalhanwell where did you get the files ?
00:08.44generalhanor did you make them on your own ?
00:08.45bprice20I had to create them
00:08.50generalhani see
00:08.50generalhanok
00:09.04bprice20http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+cisco+79xx
00:09.10generalhani guess then my next step is to figure out how to create a TFTP server on Linux
00:09.31fugitivogeneralhan: emerge tftp
00:09.39fugitivohehe
00:09.41funjonyeah, but does it -need- to hit mysql?
00:09.49danogeneralhan:7960 and 7940's work great with Asterisk, just get your self Cisco's SIP image and buy some g729 licenses (unless you have good upstream bandwidth already).  Even if you do I would recommend buying the g729 licenses, why waste 64k of bandwidth when you can use 8k and the quality is even better.
00:09.51generalhanthat the program to use ?
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00:10.09Insanity5dano - You think g729 is better than 711?
00:10.23fugitivo711 for lan
00:10.26generalhani have the SIP image ... im just trying to figure out how to use it ... i need to get a TFTP server set up
00:11.15funjonooh
00:11.15funjongot it
00:11.27funjonAsterisk Ready.
00:11.27funjon*CLI>
00:11.30funjonthis is progress
00:11.42danoQuality is perfect.  Can you hear a difference, I think the g729 provides a better experience.  If all traffic is on a LAN then fine, but if you upstream anywhere then you're gonna pay the bandwidth price.
00:12.14generalhanwell im not owrried about bandwidth i have a dedicated t-1 for voice only that these phones will be running on
00:12.16pfng729 doesn't work well for some applications
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00:23.16*** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.0 Beta1 - http://www.asterisk.org || Astricon 2005 - Anaheim, CA - Oct 12-14 - http://www.astricon.net/2005 - Speakers wanted! || A core dump is your computer's way of saying "Here's what's on my mind, what's on yours?"
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00:23.32danoHardwire:  Thanks.  I will keep it in mind if I can't find a FL or CA number in the next 20 mins.
00:23.42hardwiredano: I joke :)
00:23.46hardwirecause.. you don't want it
00:24.35danohardwire: What's wrong with AK? haha
00:25.44stepcutanyone know approx. how much cox charges for their DS-0 Digital Trunck? Their sales office is closed for the day :(
00:26.10stepcuts/Trunck/Trunk/
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00:29.23danofunjon: send me your sip.conf and SIPmaadres.cnf and I'll tell you what's wrong if you want.
00:29.40danomaddres=macaddress
00:30.20funjonmy phone is here at work, the server is at home
00:30.27funjonbut, i'll send you my sip.conf, one sec
00:30.45danofunjon: what phone are you using?
00:30.50BrianR___About to do my asterisk rollout at work... Around 25 sets, and a key system integration with about 100 more users...
00:31.45funjonSipura 841
00:32.01funjonalso trying to get iaxComm to log in too
00:33.09Vcoi've found the 841 terrible for echo....
00:33.18Vcounless i got a bad phone.....
00:33.28Vcofirmware updates were no help
00:34.02funjoni've heard good things about them
00:34.10Vcoso have i
00:34.12Vco=(
00:34.30funjonthey're starter phones, i'm trying to get things working without spending thousands on phones
00:34.49funjonright now if i can get the softphone to call my deskphone i'll be happy
00:34.53danofunjon: just for starters, UDP 5060 is open to your IP yes?  Are you natted?
00:34.55funjonthen i need to get the FXO/FXS worked out
00:34.55Vcoheh..heh..
00:35.14funjondano: machine is outside firewall. my lapotop and deskphone are nat'd, but it's an all:all outgoing policy
00:35.19funjondano: I'm getting this:
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00:36.33funjonAug 29 17:41:02 NOTICE[28514]: chan_sip.c:7733 handle_request: Registration from 'Jon's Desk <sip:jondesk@xx.xx.xx.xx>' failed for 'yy.yy.yy.yy'
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00:37.58Lathos42Good evening
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00:39.42bprice20will 1.2.0 have realtime?
00:39.46danoFirst thing I would try without md5 as I don't know about Sipura's support for this.
00:40.04funjonit was commented out the first time, but let me try it
00:40.48funjonnpoe, still failing
00:41.08nick125great, i cant remember how to fix that res_features error
00:41.40nick125Aug 29 17:40:18 WARNING[3481] loader.c: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_features.so: undefined symbol: ast_monitor_stop
00:41.41nick125Aug 29 17:40:18 WARNING[3481] loader.c: Loading module res_features.so failed!
00:41.48nick125oh nvm
00:41.52nick125i think i got it
00:43.14danoGive me your proxy address and I can try and connect if you want to test with a 7940.  Better than going round the houses with a nat problem.
00:43.29funjonback in 20
00:43.32funjongood luck :)
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00:44.15danoOk...anyone here that can offer me a US number for inbound only?
00:44.24telephonemanCan anyone here talk about 32bit libraries vs. 64bit libraries?
00:44.27fugitivodano: stanaphone
00:44.29Cybertoydano, stanaphone.com
00:44.35Cybertoyfor free even.
00:44.44telephonemanI have a 32b library I need to integrate into 64b Asterisk
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00:45.29nick125where can i find the native module to play mp3s with beta1?
00:45.39danocan I get this free and sent over IAX?
00:45.40nick125i see format_ogg_vorbis, but no mp3
00:45.50Cybertoydano, no .. it's SIP ...
00:46.04CybertoyI don't think stanaphone offers IAX.
00:46.09fugitivono
00:46.10fugitivoonly sip
00:46.11Cybertoydano, if you find one let me know... :)
00:46.14danoI really am looking for someone to peer with and I can trade a London or UK non-geo number.
00:46.15nick125anyone know the module for mp3 in asterisk?
00:46.18fugitivofwd supports iax, but not us numbers
00:46.28danomusiconhold.conf
00:46.48nick125ahha, its in the addons package
00:46.59nick125(format_mp3)
00:47.04Cybertoydano. libretel .. but they cost... not that much though.
00:47.44danomohmp3...use mpg321 or there is a new one which is supposed to be even better, but I can't recall the name
00:48.12Delta34rawplayer
00:48.15danoI only need the number for 3 or 4 weeks, but I would prefer one which I can use permanently.
00:49.20danoYeah...I've looked at all the others, I just don't want to signup for a recurring debit when I should be able to exchange a number with someone.  Not too mention get done faster.
00:49.30fugitivodano: stanaphone is free
00:50.08nick125what the heck..
00:50.08nick125Aug 29 17:49:16 WARNING[4203] file.c: File /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/QuajiroPromo does not exist in any format
00:50.09nick125Aug 29 17:49:16 WARNING[4203] res_musiconhold.c: Unable to open file '/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/QuajiroPromo': No such file or directory
00:50.23nick125im trying to use native moh
00:50.42Delta34is there a major difference with using cvs checkout -r v1-0 and the asterisk-1.0.9.tar.gz file?
00:50.56Delta34both stable releases?
00:52.24fugitivoi don't like google talk quality
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00:54.39danodoes stanaphone support iax?
00:54.45fugitivono, sip only
00:56.06danoI really want IAX as I am in Spain and I want use my high bandwidth proxy on a 100Mb connection in Lonfon and convert to g729.
00:56.35fugitivoyou want a free number?
00:56.49danoyes please.
00:56.56fugitivoi only know stanaphone
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01:01.17Cybertoyso ... if I checkout current asterisk version will it give me 1.2.0 beta1?
01:01.28Cybertoyor do I have to explicitely check that one out?
01:01.43Cybertoyusing CVS that is
01:02.06MikeJ[Laptop]Cybertoy, things have been commited sense 1.2 beta 1
01:02.14MikeJ[Laptop]so you will get some new stuff.
01:02.19MikeJ[Laptop]there is a tag for the beta
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01:02.22Cybertoyah
01:02.23Cybertoyok
01:02.24Cybertoytnx
01:02.27MikeJ[Laptop]or you can pull the tarball
01:02.38MikeJ[Laptop]from ftp
01:02.42Cybertoynah .. I think I did an upgrade yesterday to current...
01:02.51Cybertoyso in that case I should be on something newer than beta1...
01:02.57MikeJ[Laptop]well.. beta 2 will be soon
01:03.03Delta34is there a major difference with using cvs checkout -r v1-0 and the asterisk-1.0.9.tar.gz file?
01:03.08Delta34both stable releases?
01:03.31MikeJ[Laptop]Delta34, both 1.0 branch, -r v1-0 is not a release
01:03.43MikeJ[Laptop]it is current of the 1.0 branch
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01:03.58Delta34so its newer then 1.0.9?
01:04.23MikeJ[Laptop]it is 1.0.9 plus updates to that branch after 1.0.9 was released
01:04.33Delta34cool thxs
01:07.40nick125the native moh is awesome
01:08.08funjondano: any luck?
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01:08.36rob804I didn't even know I still had an IRC client installed on my PC...
01:09.01rob804Busy channel...  anyone actually here?
01:09.36nick125yeah, some people are aroudn
01:09.51filenope, I'm not here
01:09.52MikeJ[Laptop]nope
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01:10.26rob804Cool.  Just stumbled onto Asterisk yesterday.  Any particular distro it likes to run on?
01:10.42Nuggetit doesn't matter.
01:10.49nick125yeah
01:10.52Nuggetasterisk doesn't even really care if you use linux at all.  any unix is fine.
01:11.26NuggetI run three asterisk servers and only one of them is linux.
01:11.41fileI run asterisk on my watch, OMG
01:11.47Cybertoylol
01:11.48nick125file: wow, can i see?
01:12.12nick125asterisk on a watch wow
01:12.13filenope
01:12.14fileit's sekret
01:12.16nick125why not?
01:12.20nick125fine :(
01:12.44rob804Cool.  I have to admit, I barely know anything about Unix/Lunix, 'cept for what I read on slashdot.
01:13.21rob804I'm in the process of installing Fedora on VMWare right now so I can play around with it.
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01:13.58telephonemanwhy VMWare
01:14.02telephoneman?
01:14.15Cybertoyrob, I did that and threw it out a day after I was done
01:14.19rob804Because I don't have a spare box at home.
01:14.31Cybertoyrob, fedora was waaaay too slow on vmware
01:14.36telephonemanyou can build a box from parts
01:14.40rob804Cybertoy- was it useful for experimenting?
01:14.48Cybertoyrob, only if you're patient.
01:14.51rob804telephoneman- I live in a tiny NYC apartment...  no room for parts!
01:14.55telephonemanjust build a FC system by itself...
01:14.59Cybertoyrob, maybe if you don't want any X windows...
01:15.13Cybertoyrob, I'm with redhat v9
01:15.19rob804Cybertoy- patient because it was slow?  Or because there were problems?
01:15.28Cybertoyrob, just 'cause it was slow.
01:15.43Cybertoyrob, took about 20 minutes just to boot up!
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01:16.00rob804Cybertoy- sheesh!
01:16.10Cybertoyrob, and my host is a dual xeon with 1gb of ram...
01:16.24Cybertoyrob, but feel free to make the experience... :)
01:16.42rob804Well. the last time I played with anything Linux it was to setup SpamAssassin like three years ago, and I had a friend with me who knew what he was doing.
01:17.24Cybertoyrob, get redhat v9 ... runs a lot faster .. is very stable ... just no longer supported by redhat since they went commercial.
01:17.41Cybertoyrob, I never tried Suse ... that might be another good one that runs nice on vmware.
01:18.55rob804Cybertoy- You think it'll be faster than Fedora, eh?  I suppose I could find a site with the ISOs somewhere.
01:19.06telephonemanrob:  go on the Internet, buy an Athlon 64 processor, a Gigsbyte/Asus/MSI mother board, a memory stick, and a 40GB HDD.
01:19.12rob804Do I need any special tools to compile it?
01:19.36telephonemanyou'll also need a case
01:19.36Cybertoyrob, nah .. out of the box is fine.
01:19.43rob804telephoneman- thanks for the tip, but I really don't want to setup another machine at my apartment.  If you saw it you'd understand.
01:19.49telephonemanand two screwdrivers, plus and minus
01:20.02telephonemanno excuses, rob
01:20.07telephonemanthen load FC
01:20.13telephonemanand learn
01:20.19telephonemanlearn
01:20.25rob804What's FC?
01:20.34rob804I've built my share of PCs...
01:20.38telephonemanand when you're comfortable, go to asterisk.org
01:20.51shmaltz~fc
01:20.53jbothmm... fc is Fedora Core.  It is essentially the development platform for Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL).  You do not want to use FC for a production system.  If you need a RedHat based product but can't pay for the support of RHEL, there are several distributions such as TaoLinux and Whitebox Linux which you can use.
01:21.00telephonemanFC=fedora code
01:21.05telephonemanfedora.redhat.com
01:21.16telephonemandownload the iso files and burn CDs
01:21.27telephonemanFC=fedora core
01:21.53rob804oic
01:22.04telephonemanjbot:  we're talking about a lab experiment
01:22.38rob804I've already got the ISO for FC.  That's what I'm using to install on VMware.
01:24.04rob80415 min left on the install.
01:24.04danoSorry...I'm back.  Just looking at stanaphone.
01:24.13danoFunjon: are you using a stun server?
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01:24.37Cybertoydano, I'm not.
01:24.59danohaha
01:26.15telephonemanWho knows about a multilib system?
01:26.23bkw__ok we be leaking 76 bytes like mad somewhere
01:26.27funjonuh, whazzat?
01:26.27telephonemanlin32 and lib64
01:26.41telephonemanlib32 and lib64?
01:26.42Ariel_bkw_, which ended up sounding better?
01:26.54funjon18:31:27.141673 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 169, offset 0, flags [DF], length: 410) 66.92.13.131.5060 > 10.224.1.18.5060: UDP, length: 382
01:26.59funjonnot gonna make it back, methinks
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01:28.01danofunjon. you need a stun server if you're nat on the other side.
01:28.08funjoni'm only NAT on this side
01:28.14funjonthe asterisk server is not NAT'd
01:29.01funjonthere isnt a way to tell the phone to intelligently figure out what its ip is?
01:29.27danoYes, but the nat parameter assumes you're still local to the server. I am not big on Asterisk's nat, but from my understanding you need a stun server.  That's the only way I've made it work with the server not local to the phone.
01:29.58funjondamn, that kind of obviates using it at all
01:30.05funjoni wanted to send a phone to my mom
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01:30.49Cybertoydano, I'm using asterisk behind nat with SIP to stanaphone and it works like a charm without stun...
01:31.00telephonemanwhen the NAT'd phone registers to an Asterisk server facing the Internet, the phone opens the connection throught the NAT
01:31.18Cybertoyfunjon, if your asterisk box is not behind nat like you said it'll work ...
01:31.56funjonright
01:32.08funjonthe server is in front of the firewall, no nat, true public IP
01:32.11telephonemanIf in your sip.conf file you say qualify=yes then Asterisk will send keep-alive messages to keep the NAT session open
01:32.15funjonmy phone is behind my netscreen
01:32.31funjonthe problem as i see it is that my phone is telling asterisk its ip is 10.224.1.18, which obviously isnt publicly routable
01:32.36funjoncuz thats what i see in a tcpdump
01:32.54fileput nat=yes and canreinvite=no for the entry in sip.conf for the phone
01:33.56funjonhmm, cool, now its trying the public ip
01:34.02funjonbut i still get a login fail :(
01:34.05rob804How do the Vonage boxes do it?  They're all behind consumer routers and such.  I guess the box initiates the connection home?
01:34.31Cybertoyfunjon, in that case you probably need a stun server...
01:34.44Cybertoyfunjon, most IP phones or ATA's will let you configure one.
01:35.02Cybertoyfunjon, stun.xlite.net would be one...
01:35.22funjonit looks like adding 'nat=yes' fixed that
01:35.26Cybertoyfunjon, all the stun server does is send you back your external ip address...
01:35.42telephonemanfujon: didn't you say the Asterisk server faces the Internet?
01:35.42funjonnow i just need to get it to authenticate correctly
01:35.58funjontelephoneman: yes, repeatedly.
01:36.09telephonemanthen you don't need a STUN server
01:36.13funjoni know that
01:36.28funjonas i just said, it is now using the correct ip
01:36.33funjonbut still getting authentication failure
01:36.53telephonemanin sip.conf do you have qualify=yes and nat=yes?
01:37.07funjonthe latter yes, the former no
01:37.30telephonemanyou need qualify=yes to keep the NAT session open through your firewall
01:37.55telephonemanotherwise it will time out and you'll lose the registration
01:38.00funjonAug 29 17:41:02 NOTICE[28514]: chan_sip.c:7733 handle_request: Registration from 'Jon's Desk <sip:1001@66.92.13.131>' failed for 'yy.yy.yy.yy'
01:38.04funjonthis is what i'm getting
01:38.11funjoni'm never GETTING a successful registration
01:38.14telephonemanpasswords?
01:38.19telephonemanuser name?
01:38.24funjontriple checked
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01:39.28danofunjon: and did you remove md5 auth?
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01:40.41funjonyes
01:40.50telephonemanfunjon: put 'auth=md5,plaintext,rsa' into sip.conf for now
01:41.19danofunjon: you have a bad line in your sip.conf...look above canreinvite
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01:41.30funjondano: erf?
01:41.31fileuh you can't change the auth method for SIP
01:41.35filesilly telephoneman
01:41.40funjonheh
01:41.44funjonit works now
01:42.04telephonemansilly?  silly?
01:42.17rob804I heard him say "silly."
01:42.18telephonemani *beg* your pardon
01:42.20funjonidano:     -- Registered SIP '1001' at xxx.xx.xxx.xx port 4206 expires 3600
01:42.21funjon<PROTECTED>
01:43.15funjoninteresting, i changed the password from alpha to numeric
01:43.17funjonand now its happy
01:43.42telephonemanfile: explain
01:43.50fileexplain what
01:44.11telephoneman"can't change auth method for SIP"
01:44.18filethere's only one auth method for SIP
01:44.30telephonemanand?
01:44.34fileand what
01:44.40telephonemanwhich is?
01:44.41SwKwhere's nugget
01:44.43fileMD5 stuff
01:45.06SwKfile: EXTREME!
01:45.07Nuggetmoo
01:45.21SwKNugget: i just noticed your blog got /.'d
01:45.25fileSwK: EXTREME!!!!!!
01:45.33NuggetYeah, the feedback has been really great.
01:45.54SwKkool doubt they'll listen to it tho
01:46.00bkw__asterisk leaks memory like mad
01:46.01Nuggetcan't hurt
01:46.07bkw__this is fun to watch
01:46.10SwKbkw__: put a bucket under it
01:46.41bkw__at this rate i'll need 5 gigs of ram to last a whole day without a restart
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01:46.57telephonemanbkw__:  i know it's late, but can you listen to a Cepstral problem?
01:47.03twistedhah
01:47.07twisted]my windows are leaking
01:47.13bkw__twisted haha
01:47.18twistedi'm serious
01:47.22bkw__i know you are
01:47.25bkw__thats why i'm laffing
01:47.26twistedwind driven rain at 50+mph makes for window leakage
01:47.31filetwisted: how is it there?
01:47.59bkw__and tries to track this shiznit down
01:48.09bkw__ya know chan_iax2 can die
01:48.25filedie die die
01:48.25danomd5 http dgest
01:49.14fileSIP authentication is great. honest.
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01:49.38funjonhmm, xlite appears to be shite.
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02:01.03funjondammit.  so i have a hardphone connected, but cant get the softphone to connect. ARGH.
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02:04.21jaikeis there a way to make g729 the preferred codec? ive configured allow=g729 on iax.conf but calls coming in are still ulaw
02:04.22EquinoxAnyone here use broadvoice?
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02:04.52shido6disallow=a;;
02:04.54shido6disallow=all
02:04.57shido6allow=g729
02:06.15jaikeok....ill try that
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02:08.31hugo-v6debian-install under 10 minutes :)=)
02:09.30hugo-v6time to get the remaining 2 1/2h of sleep. l8r pals
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02:13.27tuxinator_linuxMEquinox: I was thinking about using broadvoice.
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02:14.23Nuggetxlite is not too bad.  my only real complaint is their cornball "let's make it look exactly like a cellphone" configuration UI even down to the fact that a callphone UI is crap.
02:14.39Nuggetthey fix that in x-pro and eyebeam, much to my relief
02:14.44_Kris_anyone know how to change the startup context of an established channel so that the transfer prompt (dial with t parameter) uses a different context than the one it originated from?
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02:16.41jaikeafter allowing only g729..i got these messages..
02:16.48jaikeAug 29 18:34:08 NOTICE[3539]: Unable to find a path from gsm to g729
02:16.48jaikeAug 29 18:34:08 WARNING[3539]: Unable to open queue-youarenext (format g729): No such file or directory
02:16.59fileyou don't have the g729 codec installed
02:17.04_Kris_that's because you don't have g729 installed
02:17.43jaikei did....i installed as instructed after getting the license
02:17.56fileif it says the message above, you don't
02:18.32tuxinator_linuxMjaike: Did you do that magic chant?
02:18.55jaikewe bought 6 licenses for testing
02:19.10jaikeused the register program i downloaded from digium
02:19.30jaikei think ill email support
02:19.37fileand installed the .so for the codec in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules?
02:19.41fileand made sure it's loaded?
02:20.32jaikeits in modules but digium says itll be loaded upon asterisk restart
02:20.43fileit should be, you need to make sure it was
02:21.26fileshow modules will show all loaded modules, or you can do "load codec_g729a.so" on the CLI and see if it loads it
02:21.32fileif so, it wasn't loaded when asterisk started
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02:23.24jaikeshow modules shows its loaded....hmmm
02:23.42jaikebrb..have to figure this out
02:25.34newsmafianugget: On your site, I noticed you attempted to get a ZyXel wifi phone working, Any luck?
02:26.07newsmafiaI'm wondering if it's worth it.
02:26.39r0mgood evening
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02:26.43jaikei dont have to configure my ip phones to use g729 right? they stay using ulaw
02:27.17zipppnewsmafia, what site is that
02:27.22zipppI just ordered one, would like to read
02:28.03newsmafianugget's web site. slacker.com, he has a nice faq on asterisk.
02:29.18fugitivonice legal section
02:29.24shmaltzwhat is CallingPres used for?
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02:31.45SwKnewsmafia: thats cause nugget is old school super geek brainiac
02:32.54Nuggetthe zyxel is horrible.
02:33.01Nuggetit works, sort of, but I never use it.
02:33.15SwK*yawn*
02:34.05newsmafiathats what I thought. I guess I'll go with a cordless phone into my zaptel card.
02:34.13filehail switch
02:34.15fileer SwK
02:34.20SwKwhat up file
02:34.24filemy mental powers are degrading!
02:34.32filenot a thing.
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02:35.59zipppnugget, you tried the hitachi wifi phone?
02:38.58newsmafianugget: btw, nice rant on jabber! I agree completely! Love jabber.
02:39.11Nuggetno, but people in here speak highly of the hitachi phone
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02:39.24mog_homenugget ranting on jabber?
02:39.27Nuggetnewsmafia: thanks.  I hope the rant does some good.
02:40.03mog_homewhre
02:40.05mog_homewhere*
02:40.19Nuggetmog: http://nugget.livejournal.com/97081.html (as seen on http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/29/1022242&tid=217&tid=215&tid=95&tid=218)
02:41.40zipppNugget, so considering I ordered the zyxel about 2 hours ago, I should send an email saying I want the hitachi instead so it gets shipped tommorow?
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02:44.23fugitivohow much is the hitachi?
02:44.44mog_homeyeah i saw it on slashdot
02:44.49mog_homedidnt know it was you nugget
02:46.01zipppfugitivo, 319
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02:49.53funjondammit, now the phone wont auth anymore
02:50.18shmaltzhow would I apply a .diff file to the asterisk source when the diff file is located at: /usr/src/vma.diff?
02:51.17JunK-Yshmaltz:  patch -p0 < /usr/src/vma.diff
02:51.42shmaltzJunK-Y, thanks
02:51.58zipppor patch -d /wherever/asterisk/source/is /usr/src/vma.diff
02:52.12SwKhttp://retrospection.net/videofiles/hurricanekat.php
02:52.18SwKSFW
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02:52.46twistedSwK,
02:52.50twistedit should be outta here before 1am
02:52.53SwKtwisted:
02:52.54twistedbelieve it or not
02:52.59SwKi believe it
02:53.12SwKthe radar shows it falling apart in out area
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02:54.04zipppNugget, did you have v1 or v2?
02:54.11zipppv2 is slimmer, updated
02:54.12zipppit says
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02:59.39rob804Ok, I got through my first install.  A bunch of error messages on the make -- pointers being out of whack.  Anything I should be worried about?  I got a success message on the end.  I populated it with the samples, too.  Now how do I start the thing?
03:00.22litagehave many people used Asterisk on *BSD?
03:00.28SwKlitage: yes
03:00.34mog_home99% use linux
03:00.36rob804Oh, it's running.  I'm at the CLI.  Cool.  There's a web GUI, right?
03:00.48fugitivorob804: you don't need it
03:00.52SwKrob804: voip-info.org is your friend
03:01.01fugitivolitage: me, openbsd without zaptel
03:01.12funjonhmm, weird
03:01.18SwKlitage: freebsd, openbsd, and OSX for me w/out zaptel
03:01.20funjonanyone had any luck getting AMP installed?
03:01.30rob804Aw, man...  reading?  Reading sucks.  Alright, fine.  I'll go read.  ;)
03:01.37litagefugitivo, SwK: without zaptel for any particular reason?
03:01.38fugitivofunjon: you don't need it :)
03:01.47SwKlitage: yeah lack of drivers
03:01.52litageah
03:01.58fugitivolitage: doesn't work
03:02.02funjonfugitivo: I've been told it's helpful
03:02.12litageso that means you can't use any FXO/FXS/E1/etc cards in a *BSD box?
03:02.16fugitivolitage: i know some people using zaptel under freebsd
03:02.35fugitivolitage: i think zaptel works on freebsd
03:02.50SwKa very old version last i heard
03:03.07SwKi havent even bothered trying lately
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03:04.05twistedSwK, my ears just popped
03:04.14twisteddid yours?
03:05.23SwKnope
03:05.23shmaltzwheres 1.2 up to?
03:05.41SwKhah the rock in the Doom Movie
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03:06.43twistedSwK, 996?
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03:10.56Insanity5Can anyone help me track down a mysterious problem?  Basically, every 5 calls, one isnt' connected.  I'm connecting to nufone over IAX.
03:11.09Insanity5Is there anything I can do to see if I'm getting any traffic related to these calls?
03:14.11jaikeinsanity: nufone might be limiting simultaneous calls
03:14.23jaikevoicepulse limits inbound to 5 simul
03:14.59Insanity5jaike - It's an 800 # per minute, so I doubt they care.
03:15.05Insanity5jaike - Plus, I only have one :)
03:17.04Ferris_BCould sure use some help :) Ive got 2 * boxes talking to each other as friends over IAX. Server 1 is hardwired to 3 sip hardphones, server 2 hosts the iax softphones. SOMETIMES, seemingly on its own accord, the iax softphone on server 2 can ring the sip phones on server 1 via a shared dial plan. However, most of the time any extension I dial hosted on server 1 will not connect to IAX, the softphone will ring itself! I have copies of co
03:18.16shido6no
03:18.21shido6we do NOT limit simultaneous calls
03:18.27shido6your local bandwidth does that
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03:18.32shido6whats the problem?
03:18.34Insanity5shido6 - Are you with nufone?
03:18.38shido6do you have any debug info
03:18.43shido6yes, Insanity5
03:18.52Insanity5shido6 - Nothing that I can say for sure is nufone
03:19.04Insanity5I have an 800 # - 866-249-2403 (you can call it... just demo recording)
03:19.09shido6bring it to #nufone
03:19.13Insanity5one in every 5 calls goes unanswered
03:19.14Insanity5ok
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03:39.06funjonhmm, whoops
03:39.17funjonit would appear that my asterisk box has started answering the pots line
03:39.20funjonthis is... unfortunate. :p
03:41.54Insanity5hehe
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03:45.49jaikegot a question again..if i only allow g729 and disallow the rest in iax.conf.. calls come in as g729..but i still need ulaw because my asterisk box connects to another provider that uses only ulaw
03:46.19ConnorIs there any major benifit in storing voicemail's in a database rather than a file system?
03:46.28jaikeputting back allow=ulaw reverts all calls back to ulaw
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03:47.17websaehey everyone
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03:47.53websaeim curious if anyone in here is using broadvoice with their asterisk box?
03:49.21loudmany people do.
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03:52.48websaedo you loud?
03:52.53websaeloud: do you use broadvoice?
03:53.30loudi do yes, and yes im experiencing incoming problems too.
03:53.34websaei keep getting this error msg 'SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized ' with broadvoice
03:53.42loudoh i passed that already
03:54.05websaehow so?
03:54.08loudnow incoming is the problem, and support always points its finger at asterisk.
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03:54.47fugitivois it something new?
03:54.58loudi guess, they move servers all the time.
03:54.59fugitivoi used broadvoice 1 or 2 months ago without problems
03:55.10fugitivohmm
03:55.15loudthey are good, but you have to keep a close eye to them.
03:55.28fugitivoit wasn't too good for me
03:55.41websaewasn't too good for you?
03:55.42fugitivous calls were great, but international were too laggy
03:55.43websaewhat do you mean?
03:55.51websaeyeah i just need it for U.S. calls
03:55.57websaei hope it works okay for that
03:56.09loudi have no problems on outgoing international
03:56.23fugitivoi liked because they have a plan for 35 countries unlimited
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03:56.41loudmy gf makes 2,3 hrs phone calls to brazil, argentina, no problems.
03:56.47fugitivohmm
03:56.51fugitivoi'm in argentina
03:56.51loudi <3 bv.
03:57.10loudsorry
03:57.11fugitivocalls from argentina to argentina were lagged
03:57.19maxx_who is the best international IAX provider?
03:57.26loudits because any .ar isp gets like 100+ms to bv
03:57.43fugitivoyes, but that should be fine
03:57.48loudi get like 9ms to any east/west coast.
03:57.58loudsame as voipjet, which is great.
03:58.25fugitivo9ms, that's nice :)
03:59.15louduna masa :)
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04:01.08websaeyeah broadvoice is a pain to setup
04:01.12websaethey only support SIP
04:01.24fugitivolol
04:01.47fugitivoloud: are you from argentina? :)
04:02.12Insanity5Can anyone help me track down a mysterious problem?  Basically, every 5 calls, one isnt' connected.  I'm connecting to nufone over IAX.
04:02.18Insanity5Is there anything I can do to see if I'm getting any traffic related to these calls?
04:02.28NewSoleloud: where are u from
04:02.32loudyes, i am
04:03.18fugitivoloud: you live here?
04:03.22loudno, us
04:03.32fugitivowhere?
04:03.48loudsd, clai
04:03.49loudcali
04:06.24fugitivowhat are you doing there?
04:06.48blueskyhi, i'm getting this error when making zaptel: make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/zaptel: No such file or directory.  Stop.
04:07.22blueskyany clue? i'm doing make clean, make config, make linux26, make install
04:07.32jaikebluesky: compile zaptel in /usr/src/zaptel
04:07.57blueskyjaike: that's where i'm in
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04:09.04blueskyalso getting: make -C  SUBDIRS=/usr/src/zaptel modules
04:09.52jaikethe folder might still be zaptel-1.0.9..did u rename it after extracting?
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04:11.09maskedhi i've just setup a basic asterisk and the sound is very choppy with the gsm codec, what would be the problem?
04:11.13blueskyno, i checked out from cvs
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04:11.40pressure_manquestion re ARA extensions:
04:11.59pressure_manif the order of the dialplan matters, how is this represented in an SQL table under ARA?
04:12.23Nuggetin a very ugly manner.  :)
04:12.42pressure_manthe DB schema in ARA ain't too hot, is it?
04:13.03pressure_manie, whoever designed it needs to take a class on database normalization
04:13.28brookshiremake patches?
04:13.41pressure_manyikes
04:13.51pressure_manthat would be a huge patch
04:14.03brookshireexactly.. then don't complain :)
04:14.05blueskyjaike: should i remove previous folders? where are they?
04:14.13pressure_mani'd more likely start the ARA architecture from scratch
04:14.32pressure_mana schema that made use of foreign keys to keep things in check
04:14.38Nuggetblame mysql.
04:14.48Nuggetit's raised a whole generation of people who think they know how databases work
04:14.54Nugget(but really don't)
04:14.55Darwin35wow
04:15.02brookshirewow.. who cares
04:15.05Darwin35I think I am going to change professions
04:15.14fugitivomysql is not a real database
04:15.14twistedbrookshire, you bkac in thown?
04:15.16pressure_mandamn, even ms access supported foreign keys 10 years ago
04:15.17twisted-h
04:15.39Darwin35I just got a email from BNSF
04:15.44Netgeeksfugitivo: lol, I was thinking on no, here we go again
04:16.03fugitivoNetgeeks: i'm not here, i'm hidden
04:16.10Darwin35they are looking for a JR comm tech and dispatch trainee
04:16.33pressure_mando contexts have any meaning for a peer?
04:16.57Darwin35and since I like trains I think it would be fun
04:17.03Nuggettrains rock
04:17.07bkw__twisted has no power
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04:17.19brookshirehaha.. twisted.. did you just feel that?
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04:17.29brookshireand yes
04:17.32twistedbrookshire, feel what?
04:17.33brookshirei am back
04:17.37brookshirethat power spike
04:17.37twistedi just lost power
04:17.38brookshirelol
04:17.38Darwin35they must in in the hurricain path
04:17.44twistedit came back though
04:17.46brookshireyeah
04:17.50brookshireit rebooted the markocam
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04:18.02twistedlol
04:18.05twistedi don't have TV anymore
04:18.09twistedi think it zapped my cable box
04:18.20fugitivotwisted: that's good, no tv
04:18.30Darwin35it takes 1 min for most cable boxes that are digital to reset
04:18.32twistedlol
04:18.32brookshiretv rots your brain
04:18.39twistedDarwin - yeah, it just reset
04:18.45fugitivono tv == more productivity
04:18.58twistedproductivity... hah
04:18.58brookshiretwisted hasn't been productive in years
04:18.59filelies, all lies!
04:19.00brookshireHAHAH
04:19.12twistedBULLSHIT
04:19.12twistedi have too been productive
04:19.12fugitivolol
04:19.13Darwin35man I just wish there was a unix based train emulator
04:19.13twistedi produced YOU didn't i?
04:19.18brookshireproductive at scoring chicks ;)
04:19.36brookshiresee.. you can't be a geek and have a gf.. that just doesn't work
04:19.40filebrookshire: Mattttttttttt
04:19.40newsmafiaDarwin35: Would you be "comm" as in working w/ radio?
04:19.43maskedDarwin35, rainroad tycoon + winex ?
04:19.46brookshirehi file
04:19.46twistedbrookshire, sure it does
04:19.49twistedas long as she's a geek too
04:19.50filehi brookshire
04:19.58brookshirehah
04:20.03maskedrail*
04:20.38fugitivonono
04:20.38fugitivono gf == more productivity
04:20.39Darwin35no like MS train emu
04:20.40brookshireok ok..
04:20.40twistedbrookshire, markocam is blank
04:20.40Darwin35winx
04:20.40fugitivovmware
04:20.54Darwin35might have to do vmware
04:20.57brookshiretwisted: and you think i lied?
04:21.08brookshirei just saw mark's computer reboot
04:21.10twistedbrookshire, lol
04:21.10brookshirehe's crying now
04:21.14twistedi can see mark
04:21.14brookshirebecause his ups failed
04:21.15brookshirelol
04:21.22twistedmy ups's worked great
04:21.27twistedmy power was out for a good 15 seconds
04:21.35twistedi was still talking on conf and chatting on irc :P
04:21.43newsmafiaoh, ok. cool stuff. I love trains too. I'm in the news gathering business and we sometimes listen to rail freqs
04:21.43filetwisted: geek.
04:21.47twistedfile, yeah.
04:21.54fileI live on the edge, no UPS for me
04:21.55twistedonly a geek would be doing what i'm doing in this kinda weather
04:22.13brookshirei have a built in ups on my laptop
04:22.14brookshire:D
04:22.19brookshireanyways.. g2g
04:22.21brookshirework to do
04:23.02twistedbrookshire, don't go home yet
04:23.10fugitivoi like trains, i hate planes
04:23.11twistedthe rain is supposed to stop soon, and the winds will die back down
04:23.13twisted;)
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04:24.57Darwin35yeah but the presiadent wants to do away with amtrak
04:25.01Darwin35what a jerk
04:25.20twistedlol
04:25.22NuggetI like the idea of amtrak a lot more than I like the reality of amtrak.
04:25.24Darwin35no amtrak means busses and plains
04:25.25twistedfor a minute i thought you said adtran
04:25.32brookshireawh.. the robot rebooted too
04:25.55newsmafiathat sucks, I know! He's in town today as a matter of fact! (san diego)
04:26.01Darwin35I need to get this quickcam working
04:26.08NuggetI think that the US is just too damn big to make passenger trains practical.
04:26.10Darwin35sorry man
04:26.12fugitivowhat is amtrak? it seems a name of a biological weapon
04:26.24pygrammerfor SetCallerID, is the format SetCallerID("NAME" <NUMBER>) ??
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04:26.27Darwin35no they need to work on making magrail real
04:26.28Nuggetamtrak is the us quasi-nationalized passenger train system
04:26.39brookshireNugget: i think it's more practical if they have one going from like city to city
04:26.39twistedpygrammer, yes, caps optional.
04:26.47fugitivodo the us have trains?
04:26.53pygrammertwisted: that was simply for ease of readibility
04:26.54pygrammer(sp)
04:26.57Darwin35they need to work on high speed trains
04:26.59Nuggetyes, but not in any meaningful way.
04:27.03brookshirecaltrain?
04:27.07Darwin35like the one from dc to ny
04:27.16Darwin35electrorail
04:27.17brookshireoh that's the best one
04:27.19Nuggetamtrak exists as a national train system, but it sucks and nobody rides it unless they have absolutely no other choice.
04:27.22Darwin35bullet train
04:27.23Nuggetit's slow and ucky
04:27.25fugitivoi like the disney train
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04:27.39brookshirecaltrain is nice
04:27.43brookshireand lots of people ride it
04:27.45Darwin35I like the time it takes makes you sit back and relax
04:27.45newsmafiaI take the train from San Diego to LA all the time, only a handful of people on board.
04:27.48kkrizkahi, what is the best web gui that you would suggest?
04:28.04Darwin35it is faster then the buss and slower then the plains
04:28.07fugitivokkrizka: none
04:28.10Nuggetkkrizka: none.
04:28.13fugitivolol
04:28.16Darwin35but over priced for what you get I agree
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04:28.51Darwin35but I like the fact you see the world and not stuck in a buss with screaming children
04:28.59fugitivoDarwin35: which one?
04:29.03Darwin35and smelly people
04:29.09Darwin35gayhound
04:29.17Darwin35sucks
04:29.30fugitivoyou have to try argentinian "linea mitre" train
04:29.40Darwin35and on a train you can getup and walk around
04:29.41NuggetI've taken the shinkansen in japan, the tgv in france, and countless eurail trains around europe and I really wish there was an equivalent system here in the states.
04:29.48Nuggetbut I just don't think it's practical to build one
04:29.55criptosAny one using Ata over ethernet AOE devices over here? :)
04:29.58Darwin35I love eurorail
04:29.59newsmafiaI was thinking about taking to the midwest this summer. It would be cheaper to fly to europe and back
04:30.07Darwin35had a blast trvling on it
04:30.12newsmafianot like the ICE in Germany!
04:30.27maxx_rail is very important and under utilized for freight. there are simply too many trucks on teh road in the US
04:30.38Nuggetthat's true
04:30.52Darwin35Amtrak needs to sit down and retrack it self for better service
04:31.05Darwin35and yes split it up into regions
04:31.07bkw__like that is easy
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04:31.09mishehuyou mean Uhm...  Track?
04:31.20criptosYou should take the "tequila train". From Guadalajra, to Tequila town. TEquila open bar all the way, you get to tequila town, learn about the process of picking up tequila (la jima), how tequila is produced, and YES, you get a lot of FREE TEQUILA SAMPLES :)
04:31.29criptosThis is a helluva trip :)
04:31.32newsmafiamaybe letting them fend for themselves will make them profitable, and have better service.
04:31.40brookshiremaxx_: japana uses the US rail all the time to ship to the UK :)
04:31.41mishehuguadalajara...  hah, vadi al chara
04:31.41fugitivocriptos: i like that train
04:31.51mishehuthe shit river
04:31.57criptosI like it tu fugitivo :)
04:31.59brookshirejapan also
04:31.59brookshirehaha
04:32.02fugitivowhy #asterisk is a chat about trains?
04:32.10brookshirebecause trains are rad
04:32.15Darwin35if they split it into regions then they could afford it better
04:32.16brookshirei <3 trains
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04:32.31Darwin35just a change of topic for a bit
04:32.36Darwin35its late at night
04:32.42fugitivoyeah, trains
04:32.45NuggetI could start bitching about mysql again if you guys are sick of trains.  :)
04:32.48criptosYesterday was about sex and documentation, and the even before, there was a holy war about gpl or not gpl * contributed code :)
04:32.50fugitivoand a glass of whiskey
04:33.07Nuggetdang, I missed a gpl argument?
04:33.10brookshireso who wants to write some documentation? :)
04:33.14fugitivoNugget: mysql is not a real database
04:33.36brookshirefugitivo: sure it is
04:33.38criptosSo, today will have a mysql making love to a train who is documented as gpl?
04:33.50Darwin35fug documentation on * will take 5 years aslong as its still in major growth
04:33.52newsmafialol!
04:34.02stevechsex + documentation = porno flick?
04:34.07Darwin35its hard to document when things change o fast
04:34.11brookshiredocumented sex?
04:34.19criptossex + documentation is something a geek never know...
04:34.21Darwin35ex
04:34.25fugitivobrookshire: i was going to ask the same question
04:34.28Darwin35~sex
04:34.30jbotupdatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/
04:34.38blueskyi have to place a shortcut to the kernel directory for zaptel to install properly, right?
04:34.40Darwin35there its documented
04:34.54fugitivocriptos: sex documented by a geek, that's possible
04:35.27brookshiresomeone should write an o'riley book on it
04:35.33fugitivocriptos: uml sex design
04:35.36Darwin35but I do not think they should do away with amtrak
04:35.47criptosAnd what should be the animal for a o'riley book of sex?
04:35.48stevechI don't think I've seen a "Sex for Dummies" book.
04:35.52brookshirei wonder what the animal on the front cover would be
04:36.02fugitivowhen i read amtrak i remember antrax
04:36.04Darwin35just cut back what is not really needed and have 2 e to w coridoors
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04:36.20Darwin35a pig
04:36.25brookshirethat's hot
04:36.26Darwin35and you
04:36.29fugitivolol
04:36.30brookshireand dirty, hehe
04:36.33criptosha ha ha...
04:36.35newsmafiaDarwin35: I agree, it would be sad :(
04:36.48fugitivononono
04:36.50fugitivoa rabbit
04:36.53fugitivothat's better
04:37.08Darwin35no pig because they get down and dirty
04:37.11criptosa donkey? maybe ..
04:37.12Darwin35lol
04:37.19brookshiregerbil for the S&M
04:37.21brookshirebook
04:37.21criptosactually pigs have 1 hour orgasm...
04:37.26Darwin35no they just make an ass of themselvels
04:37.30fugitivocows have 10 sec orgasm
04:37.58criptosand women fake orgasm... isn´t nice to be human?
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04:38.12Darwin35men do to
04:38.21Ferris_1I'm using 3 Budgetone 100 sip hardphones attached to an asterisk box physically, which shares a dialplan with another server on the internet via IAX. I can make calls to my voip provider from both asterisk boxes (via the extenion on server 2) and can call any sip phone from any other sip phone, but only intermitantly can I dial from server2 to extensions on server 1. Usually, the softphone I use to try and call the sip phones will ring
04:38.31fugitivoFerris_1: off topic dude
04:38.46fugitivoFerris_1: we're talking about trains and sex with pigs
04:38.52Ferris_1I love both!
04:38.57Darwin35yeah asterisk = train + sex tonight
04:39.15Darwin35eww sex on trains is fun to
04:39.15criptosAh, feris forgot to say, that the sistem is installed in a train dedicated to transport pigs ready for sex!
04:39.24Ferris_1are they 1 hour trips?
04:39.30fugitivoFerris_1: i can't read anything you typed
04:39.38Ferris_1or like, 1 hr plus 15 initial mintes to get the pig off?
04:39.45Darwin35lol
04:39.47criptosHaven´t done that yet..
04:39.48criptoslol
04:39.56newsmafialol
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04:40.13s34nHow is the 1.2 beta looking?
04:40.16websaehow's everyone doing?
04:40.31criptosFerris_1: the dialplan is common? I usually route calls beween * using pattern matching...
04:40.31Ferris_1websae, my compuer is enchanted by black witch magic
04:40.35Ferris_1other than that, I'm greate
04:40.47Darwin35we are have hot pig train sex . thansk and you
04:41.12criptosFerris_1 do you have an egg at hand? We can try some iirc vudu on your computer, got any picture of it?
04:41.16Ferris_1common in what sense? I apologize if that's an asterisk term I don't know, I'm sort of teaching myself this all of the sudden for work
04:41.29websaegood lol
04:41.29Ferris_1I've got its urine, that cool?
04:41.45fugitivoi can't read anything
04:41.47fugitivodamn whiskey
04:41.50criptosNo no, urine are for medical purpouses...
04:42.08Ferris_1http://www.geekatopia.com/asterisk/ <-- here's a link to the iax, sip, and extensions for both machines
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04:42.17Ferris_1plus a handy dandy network diagram (thank you MSPaint!)
04:42.23fugitivogeekatoia
04:42.34fugitivopia
04:42.37Ferris_1heh
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04:42.54Ferris_1yeah, that's what my apartment has been chrissened (christened?)
04:43.04Piranha-damn it sucks when you lose a 250gig hard drive to failure
04:43.13Ferris_1ouch
04:43.16Darwin35ouch
04:43.26Darwin35even more when its sata
04:43.27fugitivoouch
04:43.33Legendouch
04:43.35Ferris_1yay!
04:43.37Ferris_1no wait, ouch
04:44.30fugitivowhat happened to the trains?
04:44.38fugitivoand the igs
04:44.39fugitivopigs
04:44.48Piranha-haha darwin, how would sata make a diff ;)
04:44.50Ferris_1so I was fucking this pig on a train, when...
04:44.51Darwin35we have to cross that track when we get to it
04:45.08criptosferris_i look at your iax files, I suggests that register geek to paragon and registar algo paragon to geek...
04:45.18Piranha-actually I was very fortuneate... the drive was giving me some issues so I backed everything up and reformatted... then restored. but luckily I kept it all on my backup drives
04:45.31Ferris_1as peers and users individually, criptos?
04:45.33Darwin35good
04:45.40Ferris_1type=peer, then type=user ?
04:45.42criptosand for patter matching, iax no longer uses context at the dial string, context
04:45.46criptosferrus_1 as peer...
04:46.00criptoscontext of iax peers is handled at iax.conf ...
04:46.09Darwin35man hot pig sex on a trian sounds like fun
04:46.24Darwin35next time tie him to the rails
04:46.32Darwin35tie
04:46.40Darwin35lol
04:47.06Ferris_1Is there a site with examples of how this should look? I'm afraid after staring at this for 3 days, I'm stuck in my bad habits, not sure what best practice even looks like
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04:47.26Darwin35ok bed time for this unix junkie
04:47.33Ferris_1night pig fucker!
04:47.46Nugget~darwin> &
04:47.47Nugget:)
04:47.50s34nany reports back fro 1.2 beta sites?
04:48.02fugitivosss
04:48.19Darwin351.2 works great
04:48.19criptosMine installation working just fine :)
04:48.27fugitivoaaaasaa
04:48.38Darwin35no issues
04:48.50Darwin35now make full release and lock it
04:48.54Ferris_1so criptos, type=peer in both iax.confs, only peer?
04:48.57Darwin35for 6 months
04:49.07criptos<PROTECTED>
04:49.21Ferris_1do it.
04:49.24Ferris_1you know you want to
04:49.27pygrammeri do
04:49.29pygrammerbut i have like no money
04:49.36pygrammerthis would be like a significant portion of my life savings
04:49.41Ferris_1sup fellow broke buddy
04:49.45Nuggetif you buy one off ebay you can expect to spend a solid month trying to convince someone to sell you the support contract.
04:49.58Nuggetthe whole time the phone will sit on your desk with the callmanager firmware and taunt you
04:50.17pygrammerNugget: so, you're saying i shouldn't buy one on ebay?
04:50.18fugitivo$259 is nothing, do it
04:50.35NuggetI did.  It's frustrating, but cheaper that way.
04:50.49Nuggetbuying the support contract on a single, used phone can be a total hemmorhoid
04:50.51pygrammerproblem is, it's used and comes with no power cube
04:51.04Nuggetthe power cubes are easy to find online.  $20 or so
04:51.05fugitivothat sucks
04:51.19pygrammerso it would be like $2798
04:51.21pygrammer$279
04:51.33pygrammerwhereas the new one is $334.95 with a cube
04:51.34fugitivopygrammer: god, one more digi
04:51.35fugitivot
04:51.48pygrammerwith suppor
04:51.49pygrammert
04:52.21Ferris_1it's refreshing to see this channel so active, hard to find fellow phone nerds IRL
04:52.55pygrammerhaha
04:53.01newsmafiasome people sell sip enabled phones on ebay. I took me weeks to get sip working on my cisco
04:53.13pygrammerbtw Nugget why would you want a support contract?
04:53.28Nuggetyeah, if you're new to cisco it's totally worth buying one from a vendor that can help and will ship it with support and sip loaded.
04:53.30pygrammeryou mean warranty?
04:53.42pygrammeri'm smart enough to configure a freakin' phone
04:53.50Nuggetyou need a support contract in order to obtain the sip firmware you need to make it work with asterisk.
04:53.59pygrammerreally.
04:54.02Nuggetthe phones ship with the wrong firmware
04:54.14pygrammerif i bought it from voipsupply, would i get that? http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_107&products_id=356
04:54.21Nuggetask them.  they probably sell it both ways
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04:55.05s34npygrammer: just by a polycom new
04:55.14s34nfor less $$
04:55.33pygrammeryeah
04:55.38pygrammerprobably smarter, considering my finances
04:55.39pygrammer:)
04:55.51fugitivoavaya released a nice phone, with xml support like cisco
04:56.01pygrammeri just hate losing money :( seeing my bank balance go down :-D
04:56.16fugitivopygrammer: thanks god you have a bank balance
04:56.18s34npygrammer: under $200 for very nice phone
04:56.27pygrammerfugitivo: not much of one
04:56.44pygrammerwhich one
04:56.51apardosome twinkle (kde softphone) screenshots: http://people.sysnetworks.net/apardo/voip/twinkle/index.html
04:56.52pygrammersoundpoint 500?
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04:57.31pygrammeri got my check card today from my bank, so i'm going all out ordering things :)
04:57.58file[laptop]oh no, not spending money!
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04:58.48s34npygrammer: get the 501
04:59.19pygrammerbah
04:59.24s34nit compares very well to Cisco
04:59.24pygrammercan't they even make it look halfway-decent?
04:59.28pygrammerthe 7960 looks sleek and great
04:59.47pygrammerthe soundpoint looks rather clunky
05:00.25pygrammers34n: do you have it?
05:00.27s34npygrammer: it uses very well
05:00.36s34nI don't have one :)
05:00.53s34nBut they come highly recommended from power users
05:00.55pygrammerwhat do you use?
05:01.09blueskyhow can i remove a soft link (ln)? linked to the wrong kernel for zaptel...
05:01.14s34nwalmart $5.99 special
05:01.23pygrammers34n: ?
05:01.27fugitivobluesky: rm -rf link
05:01.42s34npygrammer: the cheapest analog phone I can find
05:02.01pygrammerso you use a sipura adapter or like? or a FXS card?
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05:02.21s34npygrammer: I have channel banks coming out my ears.
05:02.30s34ndiscarded equipment
05:02.32twistedthat must hurt
05:02.41s34nusually
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05:02.51twistedMikeJ[Laptop], !!
05:03.01s34nbut cheapo's like me put up with pain
05:03.03blueskyfugitivo: still getting ln: `/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667smp/build': File exists
05:03.23fugitivobluesky: what are you doing?
05:03.29blueskywhile trying: ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-1.1376_FC3 /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
05:03.43blueskytrying to install zaptel... i'm getting an error during make
05:03.56fugitivobluesky: sorry, i'm drunk, can't help you
05:04.01s34npygrammer: ask around. polycom scores up with Cisco as two best brands
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05:04.38fugitivoavaya relased a nice phone, 7960 like
05:05.06fugitivovon magazine, july
05:05.07pygrammerfugitivo: available on voipsupply?
05:05.16blueskyso, where can i get support to get my digium card running again, now?
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05:07.47pygrammeranyone used grandstream phones?
05:07.50pygrammerreally cheap
05:07.54pygrammerGXP-2000
05:07.58s34nfugitivo: avaya likes to play the "Buy our complete system" business
05:08.07pygrammerlooks ok
05:08.21pygrammerasterisk tested
05:08.38pygrammerksupports pretty much everything
05:09.09twistedwheee
05:09.14twistedkatrina will be gone soon
05:09.22s34npygrammer: they are really cheap....
05:09.36pygrammer$109.95
05:09.49pygrammerat least for my first hardphone ...
05:09.57s34npygrammer: how much will you use this phone?
05:10.05pygrammers34n: really hard to say
05:10.18s34nthen, not much
05:10.21pygrammeri don't have a business really (yet), and because i don't have adequate equipment now, it's really hard to use my existing system
05:10.22fugitivopygrammer: buy what you want, just don't but the atcom 320
05:10.34fugitivobut
05:10.35fugitivobu
05:10.36fugitivoy
05:10.37fugitivodamn
05:10.39fugitivobuy
05:10.47pygrammeri just have a crappy labtech $10 desktop mic and speakesr
05:10.49pygrammer*speakers
05:10.57pygrammerso there's a ton of echo
05:11.01pygrammerand other distortion/shit
05:11.05pygrammerno one will talk to me on it :D
05:11.09s34npygrammer: if money is main concern, get grandstream 101
05:11.16pygrammerit's not main concern
05:11.23pygrammeri want a good phone for a reasonable price
05:11.40pygrammerbut i think a 7960, however much it looks nice and would last me a while to come, is a bit beyond my means
05:11.58pygrammeri just got fired on friday, which is sort of bad ...
05:12.12s34n7960 is a nice phone. no argument. it's just expensive
05:12.18pygrammers34n: agreed
05:12.27pygrammeralthough my being fired was just in time for school :D
05:12.34s34npolycoms are equally nice, less expensive.
05:12.39pygrammerperfect timing, i suppose, if you could call it that
05:12.50pygrammerwhat about grandstreams?
05:12.52s34ngrandstream are much less expensive, considerably less nice
05:13.15fugitivowell
05:13.20s34ngrandstreams are ok, though
05:13.30twistedoh joy
05:13.35twistedpower go nutso
05:13.45MikeJ[Laptop]rainy?
05:13.48twistedMikeJ[Laptop], 996
05:13.52MikeJ[Laptop]yeah
05:13.54s34npygrammer: if you live on the phone, there's a big difference between ok and nice
05:13.54MikeJ[Laptop]one sec
05:14.00pygrammers34n: true
05:14.02pygrammeri don't
05:14.06MikeJ[Laptop]twisted, and yes, I saw it..
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05:14.16pygrammerbut if i started to talk a lot on it, i'd have wasted $100+
05:14.17twistedMikeJ[Laptop], saw what?
05:14.41s34npygrammer: grandstream 101 runs <$60
05:14.57s34nif you don't like it, polycom 501 for <$200
05:15.09JerJerThe Barbietone
05:15.25s34ntotal < $260 gives you two new phones for the price of a used, unsupported Cisco
05:15.39fugitivocisco is evil
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05:16.14pygrammerso wait, s34n i'm still unclear as to what phone you personally use
05:16.17pygrammerwhat model is it?
05:16.32s34npygrammer: ebay your grandstream for $40 if it doesn't work out.
05:17.00s34npygrammer: I use an analog phone.
05:17.06pygrammerwhat kind/model?
05:17.20s34ndon't know, don't care.
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05:17.33s34nmost of the day, I use a nice Nortel office phone
05:17.49pygrammerah, at work?
05:17.49criptosany one here has configured an alcatel fast ip phone?
05:18.02pygrammers34n: and does your analog phone have caller id or anything?
05:18.05s34njust like the Aastra 9133
05:18.28s34npygrammer: yes. it is a key system phone
05:19.01s34npygrammer: I don't care much for it.
05:19.37pygrammerah
05:19.39pygrammerhmm
05:19.41s34nI replace it with a headset
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05:19.49pygrammeryep
05:19.53fugitivopygrammer: I use a linksys pap2-na with a siemens cordless phone
05:20.16shido6i love the pap2
05:20.38fugitivopygrammer: the pap2 is like $50 and the siemmens $100
05:21.30fugitivoshido6: me too
05:21.31pygrammeryeah, maybe it pays now, until voip phones get cheaper, to just get an analog phone and an adapter
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05:22.31s34npygrammer: you already have an analog phone?
05:23.35mishehushido6: yeah, but a pap2 can be a bitch to crack.
05:23.46fugitivomishehu: it works great
05:23.57pygrammers34n: well, come to think of it, my dad has an old nortel (or nortel-like) analog phone that has all the features and options one could ever want, as well as 4 lines
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05:24.18pygrammera directory, etc. etc.
05:24.26pygrammermaybe i ought to see if it works and just get an adapter
05:24.28pygrammerlike the linksys
05:24.29fugitivopygrammer: buy an ata and test it
05:24.44s34npygrammer: if you like the linksys/sipura ata, think sipura 841 ip phone
05:25.06UmaroHey guys, having an odd problem with 1.0.9.. when I generate say, 130 test calls, 127 of them work just fine, play a test message, and hang up. the other 3, however, don't hang up, ever. they stay in app_playback, supposedly playing the file
05:25.16Umarobut the file is only like 5 seconds long
05:25.16jaikedoes jitterbuffer settings have any effect on asterisk's choice of codec? ive already set bandwidth=low and it still uses ulaw over g729
05:25.22pygrammerfugitivo: i suppose i could test it on my home pots line itself, right?
05:25.32s34npygrammer: $85 for sipura ip phone
05:26.28s34npygrammer: you can't test an ata on a pots line
05:27.04jaikesipura 841s are terrible..one of five break down
05:27.05fugitivopygrammer: an ata is ip -> analogic
05:27.58s34npygrammer: do you have asterisk?
05:28.50s34npygrammer: do you have an ip network (besides a single pc)?
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05:31.27s34nfugitivo: you've had better experiences with an ata than ip phones?
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05:31.55pygrammersorry all, i got distracted!
05:32.07s34nfugitivo: most people go the other way.
05:32.07pygrammers34n: i didn't mean i would test the ata on the pots line
05:32.10fugitivos34n: not real experience, my analogic phones conected to the linksys pap2 works better than the atcom 320, but that phone sucks :)
05:32.12SarahEmmhihi all
05:32.23pygrammerjust the *phone* itself
05:32.29pygrammerto see if it still works after years of non-user
05:32.31pygrammer*non-us
05:32.33pygrammer*non-use!!
05:32.49s34npygrammer: don't you have a phone right now
05:32.53s34n?
05:32.59criptosata just sucks! they have very few options...
05:33.15pygrammers34n: see above; i'm using a cheap $10 desktop mic and speakers, so i cant use my current setup for anything useful
05:33.17criptosspecially the iaxy thing from digium.. I have 10 of them and they´re pure headache...
05:33.20pygrammerand yes, s34n, i have an asterisk setup
05:33.40pygrammerbut as i said, it really isn't useable for talking to friends or business contacts because of my lousy setup
05:33.42s34npygrammer: do you have an analog phone?
05:33.44pygrammerecho central
05:33.46fugitivocriptos: flash key works for my ata connected phones, but it doesn't work for my atcom 320
05:34.17pygrammers34n: yes, i told you my dad/i has an old(er) nortel phone that has tons of features and 4 lines, so i'll test that tomorrow and see if it still works; if it does, i'll probably just get an ATA
05:34.23s34ncriptos: I've heard bad things about the iaxy. too bad, really
05:34.24fugitivoi have several customers using linksys pap2, no complains
05:34.57s34npygrammer: the Nortels aren't usually straight up analog phones.
05:35.12s34nThey usueally work with Nortel key systems/pbxes
05:35.25pygrammerit may not be nortel, i can't remember
05:35.31pygrammerit looks like one though
05:35.41pygrammeri'll check tomorrow; it's in my parents' room and they're asleep
05:35.49SarahEmmnortel does make plain phones too
05:35.51pygrammer(not configured though)
05:36.18s34nSarahEmm: not usually 4-line plain phones
05:36.52s34npygrammer: you can buy a $70-99 ata for an analog phone....
05:37.11s34nkeeping in mind that atas don't have many features
05:37.23fugitivo$50 for a linksys pap2
05:37.25SarahEmmtrue
05:37.27s34nor $60-90 for a cheap ip phone
05:37.33fugitivo2 fxw
05:37.36fugitivofxs
05:37.49s34nthat may not be so good, but may not be so bad
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05:38.02fugitivolinksys pap2 works great
05:38.13s34nfugitivo: pap2 has to be hacked, true?
05:38.16SarahEmmno
05:38.19SarahEmmwell
05:38.20fugitivos34n: no
05:38.22SarahEmmPAP2-NA is unlocked always
05:38.25SarahEmmPAP2 is locked
05:38.30fugitivos34n: pap2-na its open
05:38.36s34nok
05:38.40pygrammerfugitivo: does it transmit callerid and everything?
05:38.49fugitivoyes'
05:39.34s34nfugitivo: where are the $50?
05:40.04fugitivoi don't know, i pay $70 in argentina, so it'll be cheaper in the us
05:40.08pygrammercan't buy the NAs, can you?
05:40.13pygrammerunless you're a service provider?
05:40.33fugitivoi can buy the NAs in argentina
05:40.39pygrammerwhere?
05:40.45s34npygrammer: keep in mind criptos warning. many would say the same.
05:40.56SarahEmmpygrammer: technically that's truew
05:41.16fugitivoi don't have problems with atas
05:41.30s34nfugitivo: you lack many features
05:41.41fugitivos34n: for example?
05:41.50s34nfugitivo: multiple call appearances, call transfer, etc.
05:42.00fugitivo...
05:42.11s34nmaybe no big deal
05:42.15fugitivoi have that with the linksys pap2
05:42.31s34nhow do you get multiple call appearances?
05:43.25pygrammerhttp://www.verilan.com/store/product.php?productid=16184&cat=0&page=1
05:43.37pygrammerhaha, activation is required for $2.99/month with no long-term contracts
05:43.44pygrammerjust a bs thing to bypass linksys' restriction
05:43.47fugitivoi tried two simultaneous calls
05:43.49pygrammerso basically $78
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05:44.13fugitivocall transfer works with flash key, better than my atcom 320 ip phone
05:44.49s34nfugitivo: how do you see multiple incoming calls?
05:45.20fugitivos34n: i see the callerid and beep sound in my analogic phone
05:45.39Ferris_1gnite guys! Thanks criptos for teaching me to solve my problem!!
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05:46.16pygrammerfugitivo: it's "analog"
05:46.18criptosyour welcome ferris_1
05:46.49fugitivopygrammer: thanks
05:46.55pygrammerfugitivo: no problem
05:47.30s34natas are certainly an option.
05:47.42pygrammerbah
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05:47.54s34nthey cost the same money as a cheap ip phone
05:48.02fugitivoin argentina is a great option, ip phones are expensive
05:48.14criptosfugitivo, how expensive compared to ata?
05:48.15s34nbut may have a better experience if the analog phone is better quality
05:48.33fugitivos34n: you're wrong, the linksys pap2 is 2 fxs
05:48.42criptosI live in mexico, the iaxy thing plus a NICE phone, cost about the same as a budgetphone.. and 2/3 from a snom..
05:49.03s34nfugitivo: I didn't say they weren't    ???
05:49.12fugitivoan ip phone here is like $100, a linksys pap2 (2 fxs) is $70
05:49.15pygrammerhttp://www.cnn.com/
05:49.58criptosthe iaxy is really expensive, 99 usd + taxes, I get it to my hands for over 140 usd + a 60/80 usd dolars nice analog phone (caller id, voicemail count etc)... and then you have a 220 top phone.. with out the nice things of a "REAL" IP phone...
05:50.02s34nfugitivo: a grandstream 101 is $60 USD
05:50.17fugitivos34n: that's only one phone
05:50.29criptosa pap2 isn´t a phone...
05:50.29fugitivos34n: how much is a linksys pap2 there?
05:50.44criptosis a cpe!, you need the phisical phones...
05:50.57s34nfugitivo: $75 + legal hassle
05:51.05fugitivocriptos: common, how much is an analogic phone there?
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05:52.14criptosa GOOD one, a panasonic is about 80 usd... cheap, ugly phone, wich add MORE echo to the line, additional to latency, will cost 30usd..
05:52.52fugitivowell, here it's cheaper to buy a linksys pap2, and 2 good phones, than buying a cheap ip phone
05:53.03criptosSO you end with a poor quality setup of cpe + phone with low features versus a full fledged IP phone...
05:53.17s34nfugitivo: $75 for ata, $40 x2 for cheap phones = $135
05:53.39s34n$60 x 2 for 2 cheap ip phones = $120
05:53.54fugitivomy linksys pap2 + siemens "cordless phone" + siemens "office phone" works better than my "cheap atcom 320 ip phone"
05:54.06s34nfugitivo: agreed
05:54.23fugitivoand i have a cordless phone for $100
05:54.25s34nata may be better with cheap analog phone than one cheap ip phone
05:54.34criptosfugitivo, do you have disctintive ring?
05:54.48fugitivocriptos: yes, pap2 have 8 distinctive rigns
05:55.02criptoshow do they work?
05:55.15fugitivowith caller_id, i know, it sucks
05:55.47s34nfugitivo: for the low-end experience, ata may be most qoe/$
05:56.19fugitivothe reality is that people won't waste money on ip phones (in argentina)
05:56.25jaikeany g729 users here?
05:56.39s34nbut in an office environment, quality ip phone costs same as quality analog phone
05:56.55fugitivos34n: siemens are good phones
05:56.59criptoss34n have a  point..
05:57.21criptoshow much for bew siemens phones? Do they have callerd id an voicemail indication?
05:57.56s34nfugitivo: I'm not bashing siemens phones.
05:58.06fugitivos34n: my cordless siemens phone has callerid, call waiting callerid, voicemail indication, ringtones, and a lot of stuff
05:58.15fugitivoit's $100
05:58.25s34nfugitivo: siemens phone + ata = $170 - $190?
05:58.46s34nfugitivo: your phone is not an office phone.
05:59.00fugitivothe office phone is cheaper
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05:59.39s34nyou are still looking at $175 - $200 for most quality office phones.
06:00.00s34nwhich puts you in the neighborhood of the polycom 501.
06:00.15fugitivothe polycom 501 is not wireless
06:00.24s34nwhich is a much nicer solution than the average office phone.
06:00.28fugitivoand remember that linksys pap2 is 2 fxs
06:00.34fugitivoyou can plug 2 analog phones
06:00.46criptosthere is a fadthel wireless for about 300 usd.. which look DAMN GOOD, even better than cell phone..
06:00.49s34nwho cares about 2 fxs?
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06:01.01fugitivos34n: me
06:01.29s34nfugitivo: are you placing two phones next to each other, or stringing cat3 around the place?
06:01.43fugitivos34n: it doesn't matter
06:01.57s34nyes it does
06:02.00SarahEmmcrash3m: fadthel? google finds nothing for that
06:02.00fugitivono
06:02.25s34nfugitivo: have you ever managed an office installation with dozens of phones?
06:02.41fugitivos34n: yes
06:03.15fugitivos34n: in Argentina you have to look for the best/cheap option for the customer
06:03.18s34nwhere the ata for a phone is in the next cubicle over, or you have a bunch of atas dangling in the wiring closet
06:03.37s34nwith faded labels
06:03.48s34nand no central management.
06:03.58SarahEmmcriptos: fadthel? google finds nothing for that
06:04.01criptosfugitivo:: argentina is much alike mexico. I used to make ata + phones, but that kind of installation are ugly, hard to mainain and there are a lot of issues..
06:04.07criptosLet me get the name correct :)
06:04.33s34nfugitivo: atas are good for some things.
06:04.34fugitivocriptos: i know, but using atas and ip phones will tell you if you win the customer
06:05.02fugitivos34n: i agree
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06:05.33s34nfugitivo: but you are still $275 into two phones and have horrible management.
06:05.46s34ntwo ip phones cost $120.
06:05.53s34nfor cheap phones
06:06.05fugitivos34n: $120 for 2 ip phones? they should sux
06:06.11ccedwho have clone Tormenta 2 card?
06:06.21s34nor $220 for cheap grandstream gxp-2000
06:06.33criptosfugitivo: are u forgetting tco? How about the cost of mainaitnning cables, and phones for atas, and the lack of flexibility becose you have 2 phones attached?
06:06.34s34n($110 each)
06:06.44fugitivos34n: you still don't understand the differences between countries
06:06.51fugitivos34n: we pay custom taxes here
06:07.13s34nonly on ip phones?
06:07.28fugitivos34n: we pay %50 + 21% of custom taxes
06:07.46fugitivos34n: an ip phone, is REALLY expensive here
06:08.08s34nfugitivo: how much is a gxp-2000?
06:08.29fugitivos34n: cost + shipping + 50% + 21%, do the math
06:09.46fugitivos34n, criptos, i'd love to use only ip phones, it's easier for me, but expensive for companies :
06:09.47fugitivo:)
06:09.54criptoswell, you know your market. I f you say ata are betters, then, it´s ok.
06:10.04FuriousGeorgefugitivo: you should ask someone in the states to send you a "gift" or two
06:10.28fugitivoFuriousGeorge: sure, tell me who should i ask
06:10.55criptosAnd NOT is NOT expesive for companies... is cheaper at the middle term... Dont forget, sistems needs to be maintaned.. so less maintance less middle, and long term cost.. this is the KEY why linux and any thing built over linux will be cheaper than propietary solutions...
06:11.09s34nfugitivo: does it matter what country you import from?
06:11.12fugitivocriptos: the relation between price and functionality makes atas a better option for companies
06:11.22criptosIf you are selling relaying onto inmediatly cost, Corporate salesman from cisco will kick you ass...
06:11.55dantand avaya pbx, with ip phones or old style digital handsets is going to be expensive
06:12.53Umarohey guys, having an odd problem with 1.0.9 where a lot of the time, my sip channels get locked up in app_playback
06:13.45s34nfugitivo: why stop at a 2-port? why not go 4-port?
06:13.56criptosUmaro: update to beta, it´s very stable at sip.
06:14.18blueskyhi, i'm still with zaptel. i'm trying to install after updateing kernel, and i'm getting the message: You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.9-1.667smp kernel installed. I already modified the link to point to the new kernel's directry... any clue please?
06:14.36fugitivos34n: for example, a 8-port gateway is $900 here
06:14.43criptosbluesky, are u sure u have the source kernel?
06:15.13fugitivo[msg(FuriousGeorge)] :)
06:15.33bluesky2.6.12-1.1376_FC3
06:16.10blueskyshould be smp?
06:16.15ccedwho have clone Tormenta 2 card?
06:16.40fugitivobluesky: if you have more than one processor, yes
06:16.49criptosblusky, that is the kernel, you need the src.rpm or the srpm...
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06:17.27blueskyi have two processors
06:18.17criptosthen you need the smp AND the srpm kernel...
06:18.39blueskyand where should the link point to?
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06:20.13criptosyou need the srouce code at /usr/src and the link sould point to the directory of the newest souce kernel...
06:20.36s34nfugitivo: drive to brazil and buy a bunch of souvenir ip phones.
06:20.49fugitivos34n: are you in brazil?
06:20.53s34nno
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06:21.06s34nbut it will still be cheaper than buyin in argentina
06:21.08fugitivobrazil has strong custom taxes
06:22.11criptosbut for what ua re saying, there will no be high volume purchases of phones.. so they can pass as personal use..
06:22.15criptos"for my home" :)
06:23.03fugitivowell, you can get only $300 if you "travel" to another country without paying taxes
06:23.23s34nfugitivo: do you pay 70+% tax on everything you import?
06:23.46blueskycriptos: everywhere i've read they point the link to /lib/modules/kernel/build
06:23.53fugitivoi don't import, i buy from a reseller, it's cheaper, i don't know how they do that :)
06:24.03s34nfugitivo: and your domestic economy is failing?
06:24.05criptosalmos, I pay 60% + as almos a rule when I import somehing to mexico
06:24.38fugitivobut the ip phone market is
06:24.38fugitivo[msg(FuriousGeorge)] :)
06:24.49fugitivosorry, that's my dog
06:25.03criptosbluesky: when you install you new kenrel from rpm, the rpm take care of that kind of nuances, so you donwload the zaptel code, make install and everything are supposed to get rigth, if not, switch to another distro who now how to do things rigth.. try slackware!
06:25.25fugitivothe ip phone market is really small, that's why buying atas is cheaper than ip phones
06:25.28criptos(This message was payed by the: Use slackware or suck! coallition)
06:26.34s34nfugitivo: if you pay 70+% tax on any import, your entire economy is doomed
06:27.01fugitivos34n: yes it's, welcome to the third world
06:27.42s34nfugitivo: this is not being caused by outside forces. you are doing it to yourselves.
06:27.50fugitivoi know
06:27.56fugitivoi can't do nothing about it
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06:29.20s34nfugitivo: you could start an ip phone manufacturing company :)
06:29.24fugitivollol
06:29.36fugitivoi'd like to, hehe
06:30.51s34nfugitivo: if a simple cordless phone costs $100, you should look at cheap ip phones.
06:31.06s34nthe quality my not disappoint you.
06:31.12s34nmay not
06:31.18fugitivos34n: it's not a simple cordless phone, it's a good cordless phone
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06:31.44fugitivos34n: i have a cheap ip phone, atcom 320, i prefer my siemens cordless phone
06:34.25s34nfugitivo: do you run them as SIP, MGCP, IAX2?
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06:34.41fugitivos34n: sip
06:34.54criptoswell enougth about 3rd world expensive taxes... I will go to sleep, and hope tomorrow I wake up, misteriously, at switzerland hold a stunnig brunnete with green eyes (yes, at swtzerland, to make it more exotic) which she has just decided to give me the life I deserve... So, I´m going to sleep, and see if dreams come true.
06:35.14s34nfugitivo: is your complain the sound quality or other features?
06:35.20criptosMeanwhile: ATA sucks!
06:35.26fugitivos34n: it works GREAT
06:35.48fugitivos34n: get a pap2 and try it yourseldf
06:36.18s34nfugitivo: I'm wondering what it is about the atcom you don't like.
06:36.30s34nsound? dropped calls? features?
06:36.54fugitivos34n: it doesn't hangup correctly, random loockups, the speaker sucks, transfer sucks...
06:37.51pygrammerstill talking about sip phones? lol
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06:39.23pygrammeri wonder what the highest bank balance is in the world
06:39.30pygrammerlike in one account
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06:39.53websaecriptos you here?
06:39.55pygrammermost wealthy people diversify their savings and investments, so it wouldn't be all that high
06:40.06pygrammerwelcome websae
06:40.10pygrammerlong time no talk
06:40.24criptosLet me check my balance... to tell you.
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06:40.33pygrammer<PROTECTED>
06:40.43pygrammeryay my paycheck from last week cleared
06:40.45pygrammeri feel better now
06:41.03pygrammer- second now
06:41.11fugitivohell, buy it
06:41.23fugitivoif you live in the us it's cheap
06:41.29pygrammer$334 isn't cheap!
06:42.00s34npygrammer: you're broke with no job and you live with your parents? buy the toy you want.
06:42.02fugitivoyes it's
06:42.17pygrammers34n: yes, i'm not even an adult -- 15
06:42.23pygrammerso i don't have to pay rent or anything
06:42.30fugitivopygrammer: look, here, the peso is 3 x 1
06:42.43pygrammerfugitivo: i know
06:42.49pygrammermy dad was in buenos aires a couple years ago
06:42.57fugitivopygrammer: so, $334 for me is $1002
06:43.01pygrammerhe and his brother got a dinner at the best steakhouse in argentina for like $150
06:43.16pygrammeryou guys have it rough economically, but it's getting better
06:43.17fugitivopygrammer: and you should add 50% of custom taxes and 21% of iva
06:43.21fugitivothat's a total of
06:43.38fugitivo$1819
06:43.43fugitivothat's expensive
06:43.47pygrammerbut it's relative
06:43.52pygrammerthe standard and cost of living is lower there
06:43.58fugitivo???
06:44.01fugitivolower??
06:44.04fugitivolol
06:44.05s34nfugitivo: not if you make $2000/hour
06:44.23pygrammerfugitivo: uh, yes
06:44.25pygrammersee my post above
06:44.29fugitivoyou're lucky if you earn $1000 a month
06:44.54s34nminus tax, after 3x1 ratio is only.... $5/hour in U.S. ;)
06:45.00fugitivook, if you're a technology guy, you can earn $2000
06:45.19fugitivoi'm talking in pesos, not dollars
06:45.28pygrammerhmm
06:45.34pygrammermove over here :D
06:45.40pygrammerwe've got space :)
06:45.42fugitivo$2000 pesos = u$s 666
06:45.47fugitivothat's a number
06:45.47fugitivolol
06:45.52pygrammerif you move here, you'll make like $50k
06:45.58pygrammerif you're halfway-decent
06:46.14fugitivopygrammer: no way, i worked in miami last year, i made 30k a year
06:46.26s34npygrammer: don't count on it. unemployment in tech is still a growing issue in U.S.
06:46.30pygrammerwell, it depends what you're doing ...;
06:46.36pygrammers34n: where are you from?
06:46.45fugitivopygrammer: i was doing advanced networking tasks :)
06:46.48s34nU.S.
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06:46.59pygrammeroriginally?
06:47.07pygrammeri thought you were from some latin american country
06:47.54s34nmy spanish is better than my portuguese and both are worse than my japanese.
06:48.14pygrammerso you were born in the US?
06:48.19s34nyes
06:48.27pygrammeroh
06:49.03fugitivoso, an ip phone here, will cost more than your one month of your salary :)
06:49.18pygrammerheh....
06:49.49fugitivothat's why atas are a better option
06:50.13s34nfugitivo: cordless without ata is a better option
06:50.14fugitivogood night
06:50.30fugitivos34n: no it's nots
06:50.34s34ncorded without ata is even better option
06:50.51fugitivos34n: i use a $100 cordless phone, not everybody
06:51.05s34nhow much is a cell phone?
06:51.19fugitivoit depends
06:51.35s34n1/10 of monthly salary?
06:51.37criptoswhere a nice phone, motorola razar is about 400 usd...
06:51.57fugitivomotorola v300 is $300 (dollars)
06:52.03s34nusable cell phones are give aways in the U.S.
06:52.07criptosnope, a top of the line cellphone can cost you 1/2 your montly salary...
06:52.10fugitivothat's 900 pesos
06:52.44fugitivoyou don't want to walk on buenos aires streets with 900 pesos in your pocket
06:52.49Insanity5hehe
06:53.00s34nI'm not willing to afford top of the line cellphone in U.S.
06:53.07Insanity5fugitivo - Yes you do... to hire a few bodyguards :)
06:53.09criptosyeap, and broadband in latin america is just so expensive...for example a 1025 download / 512 upload cost 100 usd montly in mexico...
06:53.43fugitivoi pay u$s 50 for 256k
06:53.45pygrammermaybe i'll get an iPod Photo
06:53.45fugitivoadsl
06:53.47pygrammer60 GB
06:54.20Supaplexha GB. Get a 1 TB iPod.
06:54.47criptosaila (see ya)
06:54.53s34nfugitivo: it sounds like a cheapo analog phone and PSTN service is the way to go for you.
06:54.54fugitivopygrammer: so, the cisco 7960 is really cheap for your
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06:55.20tuxinator_linuxMboy, I pay $30 for a 5Mb / 1Mb
06:55.23fugitivos34n: it's for small companies
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06:56.02fugitivos34n: E1 and analog phones is the way for medium companies, i'll leave cisco for big companies
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06:57.26s34nfugitivo: what does a cheap channel bank cost?
06:57.48fugitivothere's no such thing as cheap channel bank
06:57.49fugitivolol
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06:58.35s34nsure there is: used
06:59.35s34nprobably cheaper than ATAs and easier to manage
07:00.40s34nfugitivo: if you get them less than $900, it is cheaper than 12 of your ATAs
07:01.46s34nfugitivo: oops. I guess not when you figure in the E-1 card :(
07:02.42s34nfugitivo: cb < $400 + $500 E-1 card is cheaper than your ATA array.
07:03.54s34nI guess you buy 15 ATAs per E-1... sop you can splurge up to $500 on a cb
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07:06.26s34nfugitivo: something like http://cgi.ebay.com/Channel-Bank-24FXS-Ports_W0QQitemZ5802690686QQcategoryZ51271QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
07:06.38s34nsaves you the $500 E-1 card
07:07.41pygrammeri found the polycom soundpoint 501 for $190 shipped
07:07.42pygrammernew
07:08.23s34npygrammer: offer them $320
07:08.42pygrammer??
07:08.56s34n(you know you really want the cisco)
07:09.18s34nand you're dying to spend money
07:13.10pygrammerhaha
07:13.10pygrammeryeah
07:13.12pygrammerright
07:13.18pygrammeri want to get rid of all my money to get a stupid phone
07:14.48s34npygrammer: just buy a decent usb headset
07:17.54pygrammeri would prefer a hardphone
07:17.57pygrammerthey're more practical
07:18.03pygrammeri have all these sound issues with my system, too
07:18.10pygrammeryou keep recommending all these different things
07:18.12pygrammer:-p
07:20.48s34npygrammer: I have a 12 yr old son
07:21.02s34nI tell him to keep his money in the bank
07:21.26s34nYou are determined to spend money
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07:21.46s34nso I point to $60-75 options
07:22.01s34nvs the $350 you want to spend.
07:22.19blueskyhow do i install smp version of kernel? or how should i look for it, i just find plain versions
07:22.25s34nThe Cisco is a nice phone. It is worth the money
07:22.31wasimbluesky: make menuconfig
07:22.37s34nif you are into that kind of money
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07:23.15s34nbluesky: remind me your distro
07:23.49s34npygrammer: if you want the Cisco, buy it.
07:24.11s34npygrammer: if you want to go to college, keep your money in the bank.
07:24.12blueskysymetric multi... support? fc3
07:24.26jackand put the 24 ringtone on it!
07:24.35pygrammers34n: but i didn't say i wanted to spend $350, in fact just the opposite
07:24.41s34nfc3 should auto detect your smp and install the right kernel
07:24.43pygrammerif i did, i'd have already purchased it hours ago
07:25.24s34nbluesky: you don't already have an smp kernel after fc3 install?
07:25.58s34npygrammer: you want to play with an ip phone on the cheap?
07:26.18s34npygrammer: you want the best ip phone on the market? the cheapest? what?
07:26.25pygrammers34n: i want a decent one for a decent price
07:26.28pygrammeri don't like crappy stuff
07:26.34pygrammerbut i don't like spending a lot of money :)
07:26.42pygrammeri'll do it, but i'll doubt myself
07:27.09s34npygrammer: ip phones are not long term investments right now.
07:27.33pygrammerright
07:27.37pygrammerbut if it lasts me a few years, that's good
07:27.42s34nthe polycom 301 is less expensive
07:27.55s34nbut I think is half duplex speaker phone or something
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07:28.12pygrammerthe 301 doesn't have a speaker phone
07:28.13pygrammerjust a speaker
07:28.16pygrammerfor listening in
07:28.36s34npygrammer: you strike me as a serious hobbyist who will not keep your phone for a year.
07:28.55dev2005who use Tormenta 2 PCI Card ?
07:29.17s34npygrammer: you will buy another within a year, I mean
07:29.26pygrammers34n: maybe so
07:30.20s34npygrammer: these things will keep evolving, and you will just have to have the new features next year
07:30.54pygrammers34n: so you think $190 is too much to spend on a hardphone?
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07:31.18s34npygrammer: no.
07:31.36s34npygrammer: but it is for my son who would just play with it a while.
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07:32.43s34npygrammer: if he were more serious and interested in part of my business, I'd cut him more slack....
07:32.53s34nand more budget
07:32.54Mimmusgood morning (here in Italy). Any idea why TxFax exists always with hanghup and never with a return code?
07:33.24pygrammers34n: oh, so he's interested in telephony, too?
07:33.47s34npygrammer: but I would expect to see a return on a $200 investment
07:34.08pygrammerwhat kind of return are you talking about with a 12-year-old sun? :)
07:34.12pygrammerhahaha
07:34.14s34npygrammer: no interested enough for me to cut him $200
07:34.15pygrammer*son
07:34.39pygrammerheh, my dad wouldn't just cut me $200, even if i showed interest
07:34.43pygrammerhe'd tell me to buy it myself :)
07:35.09s34npygrammer: he raised an animal this year that netted $900 in 3 months
07:35.23jac]Z[obyquestion: concerning avm fritz plus A@H
07:35.53s34npygrammer: he paid me back my $300 investment and put a lot of money in the bank.
07:36.00jac]Z[obywhat do i need or better wheres the difference
07:36.25jac]Z[obybecause on one page they say isdn driver plus the i4l capi
07:36.35jac]Z[obyor chan capi and i4l
07:36.45jac]Z[obysomehow its all turning in circles
07:36.59pygrammers34n: ah, that's impresive
07:37.02pygrammer*impressive
07:37.07jac]Z[obyanyone experienced this particular problem
07:37.13pygrammeri think i'm going to go ahead and say, "fuck it" and go for this polycom
07:37.22s34npygrammer: he's learning that $10 lego set add up to big money
07:37.51s34nand $200 ip phones are a lot of money for a teen
07:38.10jac]Z[obymwahaha mine cost about 500$
07:38.15jac]Z[obyand i got 10
07:38.15pygrammerjac]Z[oby: which?
07:38.24s34npygrammer: unless they lead to somewhere
07:38.35jac]Z[obywell its a h.323 tiptel version by innovaphone
07:38.59jac]Z[obywww.innovaphone.com - its a voip telephony distributor
07:39.18pygrammeryuck, h.323
07:39.21s34npygrammer: I expect him to pay for his own college
07:39.26jac]Z[obyyapp i know
07:39.40jac]Z[obythats why we are trying a@h a little bit
07:39.47pygrammerACK
07:39.50pygrammereven worse; A@H!
07:39.56jac]Z[obyjust the problem is the missing isdn support concerning the given cards
07:39.58pygrammers34n: ok, then, my parents don't expect that :)
07:40.04pygrammerso i guess it evens otu
07:40.05jac]Z[obyooook i know
07:40.05pygrammer*out
07:40.13jac]Z[obywere all n00bs here
07:40.39jac]Z[obyand noone was capable of setting up a running asterisk on something else
07:40.50s34npygrammer: I "blew" a lot of money as a teen.
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07:41.04pygrammerheh
07:41.05pygrammeryeah
07:41.06jac]Z[obyit doesnt matter anyway because we have the problem in every distribution concerning the isdn hardware
07:41.09s34npygrammer: now people ask, "How long have you been doing this
07:41.22s34npygrammer: and "How'd you learn that"
07:41.54s34npygrammer: I don't think the money was wasted.
07:42.27pygrammeryeah
07:42.29s34nbut it was more of the $60 budgetone variety purchases. :)
07:42.31pygrammerwe all make mistakes
07:42.41pygrammerbut i'm thinking i'll use this phone
07:42.57pygrammeri've submitted my cc info, but have to click PLACE YOUR ORDER to finish!
07:42.57pygrammerYour Order has not been placed yet.
07:42.57pygrammerTo complete your order, click here once..
07:43.02jac]Z[obybtw pygrammer: know anyone who can help me?
07:43.40pygrammerwith what?
07:43.47s34npygrammer: does it come with support?
07:43.52pygrammers34n: what kind?
07:43.53jac]Z[obya@h and avm
07:44.25s34npygrammer: somebody who will hold your hand and make sure it works in your environment?
07:44.42pygrammerdon't think so -- but i'm smart
07:44.44pygrammeri can get it working
07:45.17pygrammermaybe i'll keep the order page up til tomorrow and think about it in my dreams
07:45.22pygrammergood night s34n
07:45.49pygrammerlet me look at that page you sent me
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07:47.50jac]Z[obywhich one - mine?
07:48.01jaikeanyone know how iax codec negotiation works?
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08:06.08Mimmusdo I need to disable echocancel on a PRI line? I read in the FAQ that " There should also be no echo on PRI connections"
08:08.29serg_bmay be you need echocancelwhenbridged=no
08:10.04Mimmuswhy?
08:11.19serg_bafaik, echo generated only on a/d d/a conversions. it's pri->pstn gateway.
08:11.54serg_bif you're using pri->sip or something like this - you don't need to echocancel.
08:12.10serg_bmay be i'm wrong.
08:12.14MimmusI use Asterisk netween a PSTN PRI line and a legacy, analog PBX, no SIP (until now)
08:12.34serg_bhow legacy pbx connected to * ?
08:13.14Mimmusby a crossed E1 cable
08:14.18serg_bimagine pri (or any digital) as four wire line with separated tx and rx. when you converting signal to two-wire line
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08:14.56serg_byou get an echo, because on two-wire tx and rx on same wires and sound being trasmitted going back on rx
08:15.35Mimmusyes, exactly. Byt my analog phones are connected to the legacy pbx...
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08:15.56serg_bit's pbx job to echocancel
08:16.26serg_bon one side - pstn gateways do echocancel for you, on another side - legacy pbx.
08:16.42serg_byou don't need to echocancel in middle
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08:18.09serg_bif you put digium tdm card in your * then you need to echocancel on this card due to 4->2 wire conversion
08:19.15Mimmusok, thanks. I will try to disable echocancel
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08:19.53serg_banyway. echo present all the time we using pstn lines
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08:20.44Pkunkanyone have a problem in asterisk , where it loads up and says "ACL 192.168.0.0/16/16 added ... "  , and then just sits there ?
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08:20.44Pkunki get the CLI only after 10 minutes
08:20.44Praktikant01need help, if somone calls my asterisk he gets the master msn shown if a call is established
08:21.04Pkunkand for any incoming calls it says - Channel 'Zap/1-1' sent into invalid extension 's' in context 'default', but no invalid handler
08:21.30Pkunkonce the CLI loads up after 5-10 mins everything starts working fine then
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08:27.57r0mgood morning!
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08:29.33eldumorning
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08:36.33christomorning guys
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08:41.46ktoshi, do You know does iaxclient support SIP?
08:42.02denoneh, I dont know for sure ..
08:42.06denonbut my guess would be no
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08:44.09ktosdoes any linux VoIP program support SIP?
08:44.52Praktikant01ktos: linphone kphone
08:45.03Praktikant01ktos: xlite is available for linux also
08:45.09ktosbut kiax?
08:45.19Praktikant01ktos: kiax does iax nothing else
08:45.22gordonjcpxlite is bollocks though
08:45.23X-RobWoo. Woo 3644 Woo.
08:45.46ktosok, tkan You very much
08:45.56Praktikant01:-)
08:45.57ktosbye
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08:55.05Mother_greetings
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08:56.58\PsyKo\is there anyone who can suggest me an fxs, high density board, to use with *
08:57.14\PsyKo\i need more than 24 fxs ports
08:58.27Mother_channel banks?
08:58.38serg_bchannel banks only
08:58.48kaldemarhey guys.
08:59.00wasimyou can get cac adit's that do 24 fxs/sip as well
08:59.10serg_bbut you can use some pbx with pri lines as fxs bank :)
08:59.21kaldemarwould you know a way of getting a sip caller's ip address into a variable in dialplan?
08:59.45\PsyKo\serg_b: pri line as channel bank?
09:00.11serg_bno, for example panasonic td500 with pri lines connected to *
09:00.27kaldemaror to get asterisk to pass on SIP MESSAGEs to it's clients?
09:00.41serg_bfor example, rhino cb costs $70 per port, while td500 - only $35
09:00.42Mother_\PsyKo\: or, get the pri card that goes into the channel bank
09:01.34\PsyKo\so: * pri ---> td500 --> n fxs port?
09:01.45serg_bkaldemar: there is function SIPHeaders in 1.2 code
09:02.33kaldemarserg_b: thanks. but i'd have to get that in 1.0.5 and 1.0.2.
09:02.49serg_b\PsyKo\: yes. i'm going to implement this setup within month or two
09:03.10Mother_serg_b: how much for the td500?
09:03.20\PsyKo\yes, how much?
09:03.42serg_bhow much what? price? $35 per port. maximum of 500 ports
09:03.48serg_bit's complete pbx
09:04.00Mother_not too bad then
09:04.11Mother_a minimum of ports though?
09:04.16serg_bthere can be some diffculties to pass functionality to *
09:04.19serg_b0
09:04.42Mother_not the first time I'd see 500 ports at xx per port and....er....you have to buy 495 ports :D
09:04.44serg_btd500 - chassis with cpu and power supply
09:06.02\PsyKo\other vendor of this kind of item?
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09:06.45serg_bi've been serached for pbx that can be connected with pri with a price as low as possible
09:06.57\PsyKo\i need less than 100 ports
09:07.08serg_byou may add ports as you need
09:07.22serg_bin base config, td500 is only chassis with cpu
09:07.38serg_bneed ports - buy modules
09:08.08Mimmusbuying a pbx only to connect phones is absurd!
09:08.16serg_bas i remeber, one module with 16 ports costs about $300. may be i wrong
09:08.17Mimmusor not?
09:08.52\PsyKo\Mimmus: yes
09:09.14serg_bthe price
09:09.39serg_bi need to replace very old analog pbx with something new
09:09.49serg_babout 1000 ports
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09:10.01serg_bwhat to use? rhino?
09:10.35Mimmusa greati migration to SIP, using a SIP proxy like SER?
09:10.57\PsyKo\Mimmus: i think it's a bad idea replace a pbx with * and purchase another pbx only for fxs ports
09:11.01serg_b24fxs cb costs about $1500 + digium te410
09:11.27Mimmus\PsyKo\: I fully agree, this is what I understand from this chat, today
09:11.38serg_bhow much costs sip phone?
09:11.42Mother_I agree with serg_b that as cost, it's very good indeed compared to channel banks
09:12.04Mimmusserg_b: more than an analog phone but price is decreasing fast
09:12.05serg_bcost - first and main requirement
09:12.10Mother_and if you have to re-wire a whole building or buildings, build a new gigabit LAN just for your VoIP.......jeeez
09:12.36gordonjcphang on though
09:12.54gordonjcpyou need (if you're using cat5) a separate point for each device, right?
09:12.55serg_bsimple (and ugly) budgetone costs about $100
09:13.15MimmusMother_: ok but phone wire closet are awful too
09:13.20gordonjcpso each computer, phone or other device requires its own cable leading back to the comms room, right?
09:13.32serg_bgordonjcp: right
09:13.39gordonjcpso *why do people go on about running a separate LAN*?
09:13.47gordonjcpit's simple, you just buy two hubs
09:14.09gordonjcpall the wires come out the same place, you just keep the phone and the computer ones separate
09:14.13gordonjcpeasy
09:14.21Mother_Mimmus: yes, but if the wiring is done already, the transition is much much easier
09:14.34Mimmus\PsyKo\: non riesco a fare /msg a causa dle tuo nick!
09:14.36Mother_you can go full VoIP at a later stage if you set a budget to upgrade your LAN
09:14.52gordonjcpand yet so many people purse their lips and do that weird inwards whistle thing and go "oooh, I don't know, sounds complicated"
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09:15.22Mother_gordonjcp: you can run one LAN with sepparate VLANs for VoIP and data, but you better make sure the network can handle it
09:15.40msanoh!
09:15.55gordonjcpMother_: yes, but there's no point in doing that
09:16.02gordonjcp*unless* you're using soft phones
09:16.04serg_bi'm think network can handle voice and data
09:16.05Mother_gordonjcp: you'd be amazed at the number of installations that people do just buy cat5, connectors and wall jacks, when you do a line test they go "oh!" when it's running at half-speed
09:16.19Mother_gordonjcp: OR VoIP hard phones (?!?)
09:16.29MimmusMother_: it's a problem of doing maintenance to wiring closet: it becames impossible
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09:16.41gordonjcpMother_: I mean, *my* VoIP phones share the network with my computers, 'cos there aren't many phones and at most there are three calls on the network
09:17.01nroejhi all
09:17.06gordonjcpMimmus: why is it impossible?  You just have an extra switch just for the phones
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09:17.32serg_bgordonjcp: why using extra switch? use vlans instead
09:17.32Mother_Mimmus: it's just the same as LAN wiring when there is enough of it :D
09:17.54gordonjcpserg_b: vlans don't help - you still have the physical limitation of how fast you can kick data down the wire
09:18.08Mimmusgordonjcp: here phones wiring closet are enormous hoard of wires
09:18.19Mother_gordonjcp: I install Cisco 7912s because they have an internal switch, which people appreciate when you give them the cost of wiring a parallel network for them instead and buying cheapo voip hardphones
09:18.34serg_bi'm not sure that all lan users can use 100mbit bandwidth
09:18.56serg_balso, all l2/l3 switches can use qos
09:19.04Mother_Mimmus: don't be offended, but if you let the wiring cabinet go like your wife's hair in the morning it's nobody else's fault but the tech's
09:19.09Mimmusvlans or not, you need a 'good' lan!
09:19.22serg_bi have a good lan :)
09:19.22gordonjcpserg_b: in any case, switches are relatively cheap
09:19.33gordonjcpMimmus: indeed - no excuse for untidy wiring
09:19.43MimmusMother_: people like to keep same number when change room. And this happens very frequently...
09:19.57gordonjcpMimmus: doesn't matter with VoIP
09:20.17Mother_Mimmus: bag & tag - agreed on gordonjcp, voip cures this :)
09:20.25gordonjcpMimmus: and in any case, it doesn't matter with conventional phones *anyway*
09:20.30serg_bgordonjcp: at this time there is only one argument against voip phones - price
09:20.36gordonjcpyou should keep the wiring panel tidy
09:20.41gordonjcpserg_b: indeed
09:21.09Mother_gordonjcp: switches are cheap for small LANs but when you try to scale things and don't know about qualified cabling, qos etc your life can become hell soooo fast :)
09:21.20Mimmusgordonjcp: here in Italy, also telco wiring closet on the streets corner are a nightmare!
09:22.23Mother_Mimmus: yes, here too (Spain) they are awful, that's why I breathe down the neck of the telco's tech anytime they come in to do anything
09:22.26jeffikany body using asterisk at home?
09:22.32gordonjcpI am
09:22.41Mimmusjeffik: I'm
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09:23.35jeffikgordonjcp/Mimmus: thanks, i am trying to insert a scrip to set up a calling card program
09:23.42Mother_I usually tell them to leave me enough cabling inside to reach the rack, then test the pairs with the butt set, and let them go, then finish the internal wiring myself
09:23.58Mother_because they can mess things up in no time
09:24.19jeffikit says "Paste it into /usr/src/astpp-install.sh. Chmod 755 the script and then run, preferably as root. "
09:24.27MimmusMother_: :-) but here problem is also internal to my company (80 users)
09:24.38serg_bi'm doing all wiring myself. only.
09:25.10jeffikwhen i use putty and insert the script  i get an error General failure (server should  provide error description).<font size="3"> Error code:  4 Error message from server: Failure   Request code:  3</font>
09:25.15Mimmusjeffik: say us more...
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09:25.43jeffikhere is the link http://www.aleph-com.net/astpp/index.php?n=ASTPP.InstallScript
09:25.44serg_bjeffic, don't use putty. try shellguard or telneat insted.
09:26.32Mother_what's wrong with putty?
09:26.41RoyKMother_: religion
09:26.41Mimmusjeffic: or repeat script commands one by one by hand
09:26.48Mother_LOL!
09:26.52jeffikserg_b: spacibo, I have only putty and winscp3, will that work?
09:26.53gordonjcpheh
09:26.56serg_bhmm.. i don't remember, but i had some problems with it
09:26.57gordonjcpputty works well
09:27.03RoyKMother_: as with 'what's wrong with vi'
09:27.07Mimmusputty is used everywhere!
09:27.07RoyKor emacs
09:27.09jeffikMimmus: did you see the link?
09:27.13gordonjcpfor those of us who are stuck on Windows at work
09:27.14Mimmusjeffik: yesy
09:27.18Mother_vi rocks! OMG! wohoooo!
09:27.25RoyK;)
09:27.28Mother_what does RoyK use? :D
09:27.37serg_bjeffik: on shell promt: cat > /usr/src/astpp-install.sh
09:27.49serg_bthen paste needed text from clipboard
09:27.50RoyKhehe. os x
09:27.58serg_bthen press ctrl+d
09:27.59Mother_I tried securecrt for windoze and it sucked - the insert/escape keys could not be sent!
09:28.08Mother_aaaaah OK
09:28.13christowhat signal is sent to an AGI script when the caller hangs up?
09:28.20serg_btry telneat (serach google)
09:28.23jeffikMimmus: did you see the script in the link?
09:28.24jeffikok
09:28.37jeffikserg_b: you mean telnet?
09:28.41Mimmusjeffik: yes, simple script
09:28.49serg_bno. i mean telnEat
09:28.59Mother_telneat == shellguard
09:29.02serg_byes
09:29.10jeffikserg_b: ok
09:29.14serg_bbut shellguard shareware
09:29.27Mother_and putty is free :)
09:29.47serg_btelneat too. i used this prog for a long time. now i'm using native ssh :)
09:29.51Mother_honestly, I've never had a problem with putty - no bells & whistles but more than enough, and has a small footprint
09:29.56Mimmus(I use SecureCRT but it's not free, we buyed licenses)
09:30.19Mimmusssh from cygwin is good too
09:30.26Mother_Mimmus: I tried, I have licensed VShell and Entunnel for some installs, but securecrt was of no use
09:30.44serg_bno. native :) i wasted windows few years ago and now using mandrake linux
09:31.07MimmusMother_: I'm using SecureCRT since 4-5 years without ONE problem
09:31.09Mother_serg_b: me too under linux
09:31.26Mother_Mimmus: does vi on a remote linux box work for you?
09:31.48Mother_I found it was either insert or escape could not be sent or wasn't sent properly
09:32.08MimmusMother_: of course! I tried a lot of complex setup (auth with GSSAPI/Kerberos...) and it works always like a charm
09:32.13jeffikserg_b: i will get telneat back soon
09:32.18Mother_good for you :D
09:32.45serg_bjeffik: latest is 3.27. ask yandex
09:33.11Mother_for example, these shops that have an SSH2 tunnel to the host I tried doing with putty first, but entunnel is way better for this (automatic start, automatic reconnect, launch app when tunnel is set, etc.)
09:33.27Mother_but for simply ssh into a remote box, putty I find just fine
09:34.23jeffikserg_b: found it on ftp in rzesow.pl
09:34.58jeffikMother: can you talk me through it with putty?  did you see the script?
09:36.25serg_bjeffik: why do you need this script? you can do it manually.
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09:37.54jeffikserg_b: i am not good i linux, and they offered this script to do the install
09:38.23\etc\binhello all, i downloaded an xten xlite client, why does i got an 8000 rtp port? the server then blocks port 8000, it was just set to received from 10000:20000 wwhy is that
09:38.31serg_byou can do same. create script to get astpp fom cvs
09:38.58serg_bthis is first 6 lines of that script
09:39.12jeffikserg_b: cpacibo, but i am not programmer
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09:42.01sylethats bs mother
09:42.15syleyou just set your key bindings in securecrt
09:44.16\etc\binanyone pls?
09:44.27Mother_syle: when I tried it, I didn't manage to get it working, maybe I'm just stupid...
09:44.58Mother_but putty works out of the box, and securecrt being a pay-for product I'd expect it to do the same without having to go into key bindings
09:45.40Mother_and there is a putty for my Nokia 9500 which makes my life a lot easier :)
09:45.51\etc\binhello all, i downloaded an xten xlite client, why does i got an 8000 rtp port? the server then blocks port 8000, it was just set to received from 10000:20000 wwhy is that
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09:47.02Mother_\etc\bin: configure xlite for the same port range
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09:49.42\etc\binwhere can i set that?
09:50.22\etc\binthanks i got it
09:53.01Mother_hehehe
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09:53.34RoyKmorning, puowvip
09:54.16RoyKpuzzled: are you aware of the slang for .nl in sign language?
09:54.28puzzledmorning
09:54.38puzzledRoyK: nope
09:54.51RoyKpuzzled: point finger to arm as to indicate 'syringe in there'
09:54.52RoyK:)
09:54.56RoyKi'm not kidding :)
09:56.12puzzledyeah I guess that will haunt us for a few centuries :)
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09:56.46puzzledso has freenode finally settled down or are there still massive splits?
09:57.01RoyKi haven't seen any today
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09:57.09puzzledgood
09:57.21puzzledand I hope those annoying bots got kicked in the nuts too
09:57.22jollyranyone using sangoma card?
09:57.27RoyKyup
09:57.37int3_hey, i made a driver to asterisk work with rockwell chipsets
09:57.42int3_voice modems, half duplex
09:57.53int3_works :)
09:58.08jollyri peering with vierling
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09:58.13RoyKjollyr: i just setup a box with two A104s
09:58.15jollyrGSM VTM
09:58.23visik7int3_ url ?
09:58.56int3_thats none yet, i not finished
09:59.17int3_just start to implement about 2 hours ago
09:59.18visik7int3_ ok I'm holding the breath :)
09:59.19puzzledRoyK: can you fully load 8 PRIs without transcoding?
09:59.38RoyKpuzzled: doesn't look like a big issue
09:59.41int3_but i can give you my ugly test code if u want to
09:59.51RoyKpuzzled: even doing some g.729a on it, but only a little
10:00.06visik7int3_ I'm not at home where I've my * test machine
10:00.08RoyKdual xeon64 3.2
10:00.26int3_ok, well, rafael@linuxbr.com
10:00.41int3_i'll put the code online today i guess
10:00.42visik7k
10:00.47int3_but i need to get some sleep
10:00.52visik7int3_ where ?
10:00.54puzzledRoyK: so no Opteron with separate PCI bridges for each card?
10:00.55visik7:)
10:01.19RoyKpuzzled: dual xeon, not opteron, but with separate PCI bridges iirc
10:01.27jollyrRoyK : i got the alrm= ALOS:   ON      | LOS:  ON
10:01.43jollyrroyk RED:    ON      | AIS:  OFF
10:01.44jollyrOOF:    ON
10:02.09jollyri dont have reference on the E1 settings of Vierling GSM
10:03.40int3_visik7: infralogic.com.br/ppl/rafael
10:03.44puzzledjollyr: what's Vierling?
10:03.46int3_but i got nothing there yet
10:04.01jollyrVierling GSM Bank
10:04.21puzzledjollyr: ah right. didn't know that one. how much are they?
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10:09.59jollyrThey sell this for $9000
10:10.25jollyrthis is the link for that gsm bank
10:10.28jollyrhttp://www.mobilecomms-technology.com/contractors/gsm/vierling/
10:10.47Mother_bleeeargh
10:10.50jollyri dont get any info about the E1 info
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10:11.42puzzledjollyr: $9000 for the Ecotel VT ot the Ecotel VT Multichannel?
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10:14.25jollyrThats what i heared on the Owner
10:14.43puzzledok
10:14.51jollyrthis is my project outbound going to international
10:15.30jollyrgsmVTMpri-----prisangoma*-----iax-----
10:15.58jollyrbut i got pissed on the setting of vierling i cannot make it sync to my e1
10:16.23RoyKpissed? as in drunk?
10:16.24RoyK:)
10:16.32Mother_for $9000 they should make it sink to a toilet!!!
10:16.39puzzledlol
10:16.44Mother_s/sink/sinch
10:16.49Mother_AAARGH!
10:16.55Mother_I need coffee - sync
10:16.57jollyrlost of faith to work
10:17.05Mother_thank you
10:17.24puzzledjollyr: don't know what your problem is but check the settings of the sangoma card that it gives clocking to the Vierling
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10:18.16\etc\binim able to setup my asterisk server, my xten client get connected but i cant hear any sound
10:18.47jollyractually this is the error logs that i have ALOS:   ON      | LOS:  ON RED:    ON      | AIS:  OFF OOF:    ON
10:19.13\etc\binim able to setup my asterisk server, my xten client get connected but i cant hear any sound, pls help
10:20.04indegoHi all, I have had a working Asterisk test system for a little while. I am using CAPI with ISDN. We have just started looking at implementing this at a prodection level and have therefore got some more serious ISDN cards (AVM C4 and a Cologne Chip card for NT mode to put our old PBX on). After putting the Cologne card into the system I have not been able to 'see' the C4 with a capiinfo. Any ideas?
10:20.41\etc\binim able to setup my asterisk server, my xten client get connected but i cant hear any sound, pls help
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10:21.43puzzled\etc\bin: we have seen your question. if you get no response then either nobody knows what the problem is or they are not interested. I suggest you go to voi-info.org, search the mailinglist archives etc. to try and figure it out
10:21.52indegoalso, what is the future of CAPI with asterisk, the junghanns chan_capi or the new chan_capi-cm from Cytronics & Melware?
10:21.53puzzledmake that voip-info.org
10:22.02puzzledindego: last one
10:22.39indegopuzzled: Thanks, do you know if it is stable enough to use now?
10:22.50puzzledindego: so with the exact same config, if you remove the hfc card the C4 is visible again with capiinfo?
10:23.01puzzledindego: pvery stable for me
10:24.00indegopuzzled: I have not removed the card and tested yet, but it worked before I put the Cologne card in.
10:24.21puzzledindego: and if you have issues with chan_capi-cm than Armin from Melware is very helpful. If you want additional features than you can easily hire him to do the implementation with a quick turn around
10:24.27Mother_\etc\bin: you have the up-arrow and the enter keys stuck, check your keyboard
10:24.40int3_i can implement code for u guys
10:24.41int3_haha
10:24.46indegoProblem is pulling the server in and out of the rack is a PITA
10:25.06Mother_rotfl
10:25.10int3_code for f00d
10:25.21Mother_he went to have his keyboard checked I guess
10:25.32puzzledindego: get sliding rails :)
10:26.41indegopuzzled: ;) Sadly it is just a 'desktop' and not a 19" that can be mounted properly...
10:27.25puzzledindego: also make sure you have the latest bristuff (version "n" iirc) and read the docs in there. I think there was a reference what to avoid if you have multiple cards in the box
10:28.39puzzledhehe, new SCO financials are available
10:29.31puzzlednever mind, available on sept. 7
10:30.31indegoLinux Driver wise for the hfc card, do you need this mISDN stuff in the kernel? I have been just using the CAPI2.0 support in the 2.6 kernel up until now. I am needing to re-check everything here. I am not sure if I should be using CAPI4Linux or mISDN with ISDN4Linux. I was under the impression when I started that CAPI3L was the way to go, but things seem to be migrating back to ISDN4L with this mISDN stuff.
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10:35.26puzzledindego: I use only the capi stuff included in the kernel and chan_capi-cm with my Eicon Diva Server BRI card. afaik mISDN is not production ready and I think (not sure) you don't need isdn4linux at all for a C4
10:36.05Mimmusbuon appetito/good lunch
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10:38.08AkelavlkHello, I got error "chan_zap.c:778 zt_open: Unable to specify channel 1: No such device or address"
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10:38.37Akelavlkztcfg is running properly.. Also zttest..
10:38.51AkelavlkOne day I just restart Asterisk..
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10:39.16indegopuzzled: I was just thinking, I think that the kernel CAPI stuff is good for the AVM and Eicon cards, but the drivers for the HFC cards are included with the mISDN stuff. This is why I have been getting confused between the two options. I think that I need both, in part. I also want / need to use hylafax too. That aslo adds to the mix. So I think that I need to patch the kernel with *some* of the I4L and mISDN stuff for the new HFC card and leave the rest as
10:39.20jollyrreload zap channel
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10:40.21Akelavlkjollyr I did it many times..
10:40.28puzzledindego: for hfc cards you can use bristuff from junghanns.net *or* mISDN. Since mISDN requires you to mess with the kernel and stuff I'd go for bristuff
10:42.42indegopuzzled: OK, thanks. All I want to do with that card is get our old phones to ring too when we get calls.
10:42.47Mother_Akelavlk: have you tried powering down *fully* then restarting after a couple of minutes?
10:43.12Mother_i.e. not reboot, power down, take a coffee break, restart
10:43.14puzzledindego: bristuff allows NT mode. read the docs. which distro do you use?
10:43.30indegopuzzled: Debian
10:43.43indegoSarge (3.1)
10:43.50puzzledindego: ok, my rpms won't help you then
10:44.10indego:) but thanks
10:44.18indegoI will look at getting the src
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10:44.44jollyrwhat about building zap channel first then install the driver of ISDN
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10:45.02moveryo
10:45.41christoDoes anybody know how to get an AGI script to detect when the caller hangs up? I've tried trapping INT, KILL and TERM, but the script doesn't die!
10:46.54RoyKchristo: iirc you should never use Dial from an AGI script.
10:47.46Akelavlkjollyr, what is ISDN driver?
10:48.37RoyKjollyr: sangoma is working on a native non-zaptel driver
10:48.50RoyKjollyr: using zaptel with sangoma is suboptimal
10:49.08jollyrhow can used that
10:50.07jollyrthis is what ive done in my intallation..
10:50.21jollyrbased on the Readme of sangoma
10:50.58jollyri compile zaptel then i install wanpipe
10:51.07christoRoyK - you mean  $agi->exec('Dial','Zap/g1/xxxxxxx');  is a bad thing?  What does this have to do with detecting hangups?
10:51.09Akelavlkwanpipe?
10:51.33jollyri load the wanrouter first then ztcfg -vvvv then the asterisk...it load fine
10:51.56jollyrmy problem is only signalling ang framing method used by the Vierling PRI
10:52.11AkelavlkAha..
10:52.55AkelavlkAnd what switchtype are you using in zapata.conf?
10:53.26jollyrspan=1,0,0,cas,hdb3,crc4
10:53.26jollyr# Span 1
10:53.26jollyrbchan=1-15,17-31
10:53.26jollyrdchan=16
10:53.29jollyrloadzone=us
10:53.34jollyrnational
10:53.39jollyrpri_cpe
10:55.31AkelavlkSo primary problem was signalling method?
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10:56.12jollyryes
10:56.44djin_ibIs there a CVS version that's stable enough for production (I'd like to use Realtime)?
10:57.16AkelavlkOk, I will check that.
10:57.34jollyrAkelavlk: do you know what vieling Vtme signalling used?
10:57.54AkelavlkNo..
10:58.27AkelavlkI think, problem is in zapata.conf, may be in signalling. I will try set diffrent signlaing method..
10:59.39AkelavlkI used fxo_ks and fxs_ks signalling before.
11:02.16jollyrinstead of signalling=pri_cpe
11:04.14AkelavlkI got this "chan_zap.c:6251 mkintf: Signalling requested is PRI Signalling but line is in FXO Kewlstart signalling"
11:05.35AkelavlkHmm, I seems that is not signalling problem.
11:05.55jollyrso this is during asterisk loading
11:06.04jollyryou cannot load asterisk service...
11:09.41Mother_Akelavlk: what card have you got?
11:09.41X-RobAkelavlk - It means you've stuffed up zapata.conf
11:09.53X-Robooh
11:11.15jeffikMother: hello
11:11.25Mother_hi jeffik
11:11.36jeffikserg-b got it running for me
11:11.40AkelavlkMother_ I have TDM400P
11:11.51jeffikso thank you and thank Mimmus
11:11.53Mother_nice!
11:11.59jollyrsangoma A101
11:12.04jeffikit's calling card software
11:12.15Mother_Akelavlk: what boards with, FXO or FXS?
11:12.17AkelavlkX-Rob What do you mean stuffed up?
11:12.22jeffikhttp://www.aleph-com.net/astpp/index.php?n=ASTPP.InstallScript
11:12.23AkelavlkYes, that one..
11:12.50Mother_LOL it's FXO *or* FXS, they can be mixed, but what do you have?
11:13.04Mother_i.e. you could have two of each, etc
11:13.15Guggemandi have this sucky sip provider which gives me  "wrong password on authentication for REGISTER" once in a while .... that seems to stop asterisk from trying to register again, what do i need to change to get it to retry ?
11:13.32Mother_jeffik: very nice indeed
11:14.04AkelavlkI have One FXS and one FXO
11:14.19AkelavlkFXS at channel 1 and FXO at 4.
11:14.33AkelavlkYou know, developer version.
11:14.33Mother_hmmm why not on channel 1 and 2?
11:14.40Mother_ok whatever
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11:15.04jollyranyone knows the Vierling VTMe signalling and framing?
11:15.27AkelavlkAnyway, it was working. And one day I restarted asterisk, and it's not working now.. I use also my old-working config files. But it's not working anyway..
11:15.31Mother_then you should have in zapata.conf something like signalling=fxo_ks for channel 1 and signalling=fxs_ks for channel 4
11:15.52AkelavlkI have it.
11:15.55jontowdoes the dialplan implement less-than / greater-than magic-fu?
11:15.58Mother_did you get my comment earlier, about powering off completely for a few minutes then rebooting?
11:16.13jontowspecifically, GotoIf()
11:16.23AkelavlkYes...
11:16.42AkelavlkPower is OK. Also ztcfg show that channels are configured correctly..
11:16.50AkelavlkBut asterisk show errors..
11:18.26Mother_don't know then, other than a failed card
11:18.55OgunOn callback agents, is there any way to get * to play ring signals to the customer when the agents phone rings?
11:19.10AkelavlkYes, it's not about failed card.. LED are lighting when I install driver..
11:19.32Mother_oh, I had a LED OK, driver OK, all OK and a busted FXO board
11:21.06AkelavlkHow can I check if hardware is working properly or not?
11:21.29Mother_well in your case I don't know, maybe digium support could give you specific things to try
11:21.52Mother_in my case, I wasn't getting audio on the PSTN line
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11:22.36AkelavlkAha, Ok. Thanks for help anyway..
11:23.13jontow(btw, yes there is less-than, greater-than functionality)
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11:29.06sivanaI need an usability opinion... should a calling card be able to support multiple caller ids for auto-login?
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11:35.41GoshenThat would be convinient for the user
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11:42.22puzzledsince HEAD now can use speex-1.1.x does anyone know if you can install speex-1.1.x next to speex-1.0.x?
11:42.36Drukensivana: i don't get what you mean... multipul caller id's
11:42.59Drukenyou mean allow more than one ani use the callingcard?
11:44.02Delvarbut then u get teh probelm of them calling in from all teh phones at teh same time... how willyou bill that? or jsut not allow multiple calls.
11:45.11Drukeni personally wouldn't have an autologin for callingcards...
11:45.26Drukencallingcards imoho are for payphones... hehe
11:45.30Delvarcallerid is easily faked
11:46.39indegopuzzled: Some feedback, I removed the HFC card and shuffled the PCI cards to how they were before (I was trying to make sure that the 2 cards would not share an IRQ). Booted and a capiinfo showed the C4 ports. I then re-inserted the HFC card in a different location and booted. C4 is still recognised and the HFC card shows in an lspci. All OK. It was probably a PCI slot issue.
11:47.07puzzledindego: cool
11:47.40indegoOdd thing is is that both the cards showed in a lspci in the not-working setup...
11:48.15indegopuzzled: Starting to play with bristuff now :)
11:49.12puzzledindego: for me the last one worked fine with latest cvs from the v1-0 trunk
11:49.52indegoWill also look at upgrading to the new chan_capi from the SF project. Do you know why Junghanns stopped work on this?
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11:51.49puzzledindego: dunno but the fact that he does not sell capi cards and he does sell HFC based cards with bristuff should give a clue :)
11:52.50indego:) Good point.
11:54.50puzzledbecause they were abducted
11:55.20indegoRoyK: security, if you can't type it, you can't login.
11:56.37RoyK~lart indego
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12:05.07lathos42Good Morning
12:08.28lathos42Anyone got some neat tricks I could setup this morning to impress the company president when I pitch * to her this morning?
12:08.35Mimmusgood morning (it's afternoon)
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12:09.21lathos42Did I say morning?  I meant afternoon
12:09.24MmmmTooplathos42: why dont you dance, or sing or something ;  )
12:09.25lathos42yeah.. afternoon
12:09.56lathos42MmmmToop:  Naah, nobody wants to see that
12:10.02puzzledlathos42: when his mistress calls on his office phone automatically redirect to his gsm or generate an "out of order tone"
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12:12.18wasim<PROTECTED>
12:12.37puzzledhi wasim
12:12.40lathos42puzzled:  What do you call the person on the side when its a woman?  a Mister?
12:13.33Mimmuswhat are the 'search directory' applications currently used for Asterisk?
12:13.54puzzledMimmus: app_directory. do a show applications
12:14.03puzzledlathos42: mistress
12:14.45lathos42puzzled: What i'm saying is that our president is a woman, so unless she's into that sort of thing, she wouldnt probably have a mistress
12:14.57netsurfermmmm lol
12:15.05puzzledlathos42: ah right. uhm, how about "toy boy"?
12:15.08X-Rob'mmm lol'
12:15.15Mimmuspuzzled: I have it. On my AsteriskAtHome I have a PHP AGI application too
12:15.16X-Roballways makes me think of the song 'mmm bop'
12:15.23X-Roband makes me want to kill someone.
12:15.28X-Robusually the person who says 'mmm lol'
12:15.35X-Robespecially because they're never actually 'lol'ing.
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12:15.44lehelhello
12:15.44puzzledlol
12:15.55netsurfermmmm lol
12:15.58netsurfer;)
12:16.09X-Roblol does not mean 'I found that mildly funny'. It means 'laughing out loud'.
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12:16.30X-RobI think the planet would would be depleted of oxygen if everyone who actually typed 'lol' was 'lol'ing.
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12:16.32netsurferwhich I did, prove I didnt ;)
12:17.33puzzledX-Rob: but then we would have world peace
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12:17.53X-Robtrue.
12:18.00X-Robbut I don't actually consider that a good thing.
12:18.16X-Rob(you know, the whole 'dead' thing kinda sucks)
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12:19.18lathos42I do know one thing.. I'm going to remove the line for Festival..  Festival doesnt make a good Technology demo :)
12:19.43Mimmuslathos42: why? it is not so bad
12:20.14lathos42Mimmus:  It must be something with the default voice Gentoo installs then.. I could barely understand it
12:20.36Mimmuslathos42: I tried also italian voice and it's not too bad
12:20.36puzzledlathos42: if you have $30 to spare get the cepstral Diane voice and use that as a demo
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12:22.33MimmusI'm just trying to make AsteriskAtHome directory search application speaks Festival instead of using SayAlpha
12:23.01lathos42puzzled: I'm not going to worry about it today.. I know there are better voices out there, and they barely want an IVR answering the line sometimes.. so I have to introduce things in baby steps
12:23.34puzzledlathos42: sure, makes sense
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12:44.07jac]Z[oby*urge to stab rising*
12:46.14DrukenWrkuhg....
12:46.25DrukenWrkwho wants to work for me today so i can go back to bed?
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12:50.08crash3mI'll work for you, if you'll sleep for me
12:50.46DrukenWrksounds like a plan :)
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12:55.26tobiasWolfcan anyboy tell me if it is possible to use an gsm modem with asterisk ?
12:55.57Kattyhi lads.
12:56.13DrukenWrkhey Katty
12:56.22DrukenWrkdid you make that loaf of bread ? :)
12:57.03Kattyall proper bread is made at home, by hand.
12:57.10Kattynone of this silly bread machine stuff.
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12:57.38DrukenWrknothing better than the smell of fresh bread out of the oven
12:58.02puzzledDruken: yeah that's nice
12:58.03Kattymhmm.
12:58.15KattyDrukenWrk: the recipe is on my vegan blog if you're interested.
12:58.30DrukenWrkKatty: your a vegan ?
12:58.52KattyYes.
12:59.26gordonjcpmmm bread
12:59.39gordonjcpisn't bread kind of inherently vegan?
12:59.43DrukenWrkneat, i couldn't live like that..
12:59.59Kattygordonjcp: except when they put milk, egg, or cheese in it.
13:00.07gordonjcpKatty: mmm
13:00.20gordonjcpI tend not to put that in bread
13:00.34gordonjcpsometimes I glaze the top with milk, but mostly I just dust it with flour
13:00.57gordonjcpactually about half the stuff I cook is pretty much safe for vegans
13:01.18gordonjcpas long as they're not incredibly picky about the possibility of cross-contamination
13:01.33gordonjcplike, entirely separate utensils picky?
13:01.38KattyYes.
13:01.48KattyI don't want bits of meat in my food.
13:01.57gordonjcpthat's why you wash things...
13:02.03KattyIndeed.
13:02.07KattyDrukenWrk: :<
13:02.24gordonjcpbut I wouldn't keep a separate set of pans, knives etc purely for cooking vegan food
13:02.33Kattyneither would i.
13:02.46sivanaI need a usability opinion... should a calling card be able to support multiple caller ids for auto-login?
13:02.49gordonjcpwell no, because you presumably wouldn't cook meat anyway
13:03.14gordonjcpman, a vegan cat
13:03.29DrukenWrki'm curious... where do you get protein from if you don't eat meat or eggs ?
13:03.36Kattynuts, eggs, soy
13:03.38Kattytofu
13:03.40Kattybeans
13:03.41Kattyoh.
13:03.42gordonjcp-eggs?
13:03.43Kattynot eggs
13:03.52gordonjcppulses
13:03.52Kattynuts, beans, soy, tofu (which is soy)
13:04.00gordonjcpcereals
13:04.11Kattythose don't have a whole lot of protein though.
13:04.12sivanawhat's wrong with eggs for vegans?
13:04.15gordonjcpmost people get way, way too much protein in their diet
13:04.20KattyNot nearly as much as chili or peanuts.
13:04.31gordonjcpsivana: animal product
13:04.35Kattysivana: it's a combination of the way chickens are treated and how it could have been a living creature.
13:04.37sivanaah
13:04.43gordonjcpsivana: they're iffy for some vegetarians too
13:04.49Kattysivana: it is a commercialized animal biproduct.
13:05.01sivanaI see
13:05.06gordonjcpKatty: in my experience hens just kind of run about and lay eggs
13:05.10sivanaplants are living creatures :P
13:05.10gordonjcp<shrug>
13:05.17Kattygordonjcp: on normal farms, yes.
13:05.27Kattysivana: indeed.
13:05.42Meaty-WrkHi all ! I Use IAX protocol to connect Zap on a ChannelsBank to a PRI. And sometimes Zap clients get echo.  Anyone know all can cause this problems ? I use JitterBuffer, ulaw codecs and echo cancelation and training on Zap.
13:05.44Kattygordonjcp: unfortunately, most commercialized farms, chickens are kept in little cages.
13:05.46sivanaresistance is futile :)
13:05.57gordonjcpKatty: I don't get eggs from commercial farms
13:06.01Kattygordonjcp: and then, when they're past their prime, they're killed to make way for newer more productive hends.
13:06.03gordonjcpI have henns
13:06.05gordonjcp-n
13:06.08Kattygordonjcp: good for you :)
13:06.44Kattymilk is another iffy topic. it is illegal to buy milk straight from a farm.
13:07.08DrukenWrki must say this now... that "super size me" movie... i laughed at it.. cause the guy was a vegan before he did a full month of solid mcdonalds... of course he would blimp out like he did and have medical problems
13:07.10DrukenWrk:)
13:07.14Kattyif it /was/ legal to buy straight from a farm that cared for their animals and didn't over milk them and give them shots just to keep them alive....then ship them off when they got too old...............then i'd probably drink cows milk.
13:07.51gordonjcpwell, tbh, I don't have them, 'cos I live in a city.  A mate of mine that lives near my house up north has them
13:08.09gordonjcpKatty: well, it *is*
13:08.16Kattyputting calves into little crates where they can barely turn around...then feeding them a liquid only diet to keep them anemic for veal. that's just disgusting.
13:08.41DrukenWrkviel is nasty...
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13:08.54DrukenWrkveal even
13:09.00Kattyveal is baby cow without sunshine for 2 years :<
13:09.38tzangerKatty: it's trivial to find whole milk from small farms, at least around here
13:09.47DrukenWrkwell, i've only had veal once, it was soo nasty i threw up
13:09.47Kattytzanger: hmm?
13:09.59gordonjcpveal isn't that great
13:10.05tzangerI am actually reading and learning about more animal husbandry in order to raise chickens myself
13:10.08gordonjcpcan't understand why people like it
13:10.14tzangerfresh eggs and meat
13:10.18Kattytzanger: i see.
13:10.19tzangercattle are too big for me
13:10.21gordonjcptzanger: get hens, build a coop, buy layer's mash
13:10.31gordonjcppretty straightforward
13:10.33sivanaheh
13:10.35puzzledtzanger: they like a few drops of beer with their salad
13:10.44Kattytzanger: i would recommend not getting attached to your chickens.
13:10.54tzangerKatty: nope
13:10.54gordonjcpthey do live quite a while, you'd be surprised
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13:11.10gordonjcpif you just let them run about all the time you will lose loads of them to dogs and foxes
13:11.13tzangerKatty: my 5yo daughter has already expressed her interesting in "growing chickens" in order to get meat, which surprised me
13:11.25gordonjcptzanger: that's good, though
13:11.29tzangergordonjcp: yes but layers take a year to get to laying age do they not?
13:11.30Kattytzanger: if she gets attached to them, she'll probably change her mind.
13:11.35gordonjcptzanger: about that
13:11.37wasimtzanger: good on 'er
13:11.38tzangerKatty: I dunno, my little girl is surprising
13:11.41Kattytzanger: k
13:11.48tzangerfriers are what, 3 or 4 months?
13:11.56gordonjcpdepends
13:11.58DrukenWrkwho in their right mind would want a chicken as a pet?
13:12.00Kattyi wouldn't know.
13:12.04KattyDrukenWrk: i had two pet chickens.
13:12.11gordonjcpDrukenWrk: you can't house train them, I know that
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13:12.23DrukenWrkmy cat is lucky i haven't drowned it yet
13:12.29KattyDrukenWrk: :<
13:12.37tzangerthe only thing I'm concerned about is them getting toward the road, I want them to free range but I'd have to either set up a "chicken box" (say 100 sq foot fence on wheels) or fence in a large area
13:12.55tzangerDrukenWrk: who's got chickens for pets?  I have a puppy and kitten
13:13.08gordonjcptzanger: make a movable coop
13:13.14DrukenWrktzanger: she was saying getting attached to the chickens
13:13.18gordonjcpshunt it about every few days
13:13.18tzangerahh
13:13.38tzangerwell my mom had a goat, sheep, chickens, rabbits...  hell she even ate teh goat when his time came
13:13.54gordonjcpso they've got a sheltered bit you can shut them in at night, and a wire mesh bit they can run about in
13:14.10tzangergordonjcp: *nods*
13:14.17asteriskphim trying to call from sp to fxo... but we cant hear each other.. the sp always says SESSIOn PROGRESS but the other party already answer the call
13:14.18gordonjcpstick wheels on the shelter end (heaviest), so you can pick it up and push it about
13:14.31gordonjcpand then rake the chicken shit into the ground
13:14.39bjohnsonasteriskDOTbz: what do you think this is?  an asterisk channel?
13:14.42asteriskphanyone there...
13:14.50tzangergordonjcp: *nods*
13:14.57gordonjcpVoice over Chicken, here
13:15.13bjohnsontzanger <- down home on the farm with Jimmy Dean
13:15.19tzangerbjohnson: heh
13:15.26gordonjcpyou record your message on a dictaphone, tie the dictaphone tape to the chicken, and then the person at the other end shakes a plastic corn sack
13:15.28tzangershush you or I'll make you drive over to feed 'em when I travel :-)
13:15.35bjohnsonheh
13:15.36gordonjcpthe chicken runs to them, and they play the tape back
13:15.45tzangergordonjcp: you've thought about this far too much
13:15.52gordonjcpworks great if there aren't any roads in the way
13:15.55bjohnsontape is sooo analog
13:16.06gordonjcptzanger: the latency is hellish
13:16.14bjohnsondigital voice recorder is THE ONLY way to go
13:16.18tzangergordonjcp: yes and a bit jittery too depending on the interest and other distractions to the chicken
13:16.19gordonjcpbut it's really good on bandwidth
13:16.23gordonjcpyeah
13:16.27DrukenWrkhehehe
13:16.38gordonjcpif you go to ostriches you can use 1/2" Ampex
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13:16.43tzangergordonjcp: no I think VoOxen would be better bandwidth...  chickens can't carry too much
13:16.43bjohnsonasteriskDOTbz: what's sp?
13:17.02DrukenWrkgordonjcp: to save on the latency, stick a bottle rocket up the chickens ass
13:17.05gordonjcpheh
13:17.21tzangerDrukenWrk: yes but that kind of eliminates the reusability of the chicken, even if it does survive
13:17.29tzangerit won't go anywhere near you for the next packet
13:17.42DrukenWrktrue enough
13:18.41sivanaI need a usability opinion... should a calling card be able to support multiple caller ids for auto-login?
13:18.44gordonjcpthere is actually a place in north India where they send and receive email with no outside Internet connection at all
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13:18.49Pkunkman thats some jitter
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13:18.54gordonjcpthey have a guy go round twice a day on a motorbike
13:19.00gordonjcpwith a removable hard disk
13:19.08Pkunkthe chicken would need a HUGE jitter buffer
13:19.23gordonjcppick up and drop off mail at each internet cafe, then back to base where he has dialup
13:19.39gordonjcphow hardcore is that?
13:20.03DrukenWrksounds a lil stupid... hehehe damn third world countries
13:20.31PkunkDrukenWrk: where you from ?
13:20.36DrukenWrkcourse, i can't imagine not having a simple thing as a phoneline
13:20.40DrukenWrkbut some people don't...
13:20.58DrukenWrkPkunk: canada
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13:21.54gordonjcpDrukenWrk: there are places where there are phones, but they're not good enough for modems
13:22.07Kattywhy do people still think i'm a newbie?
13:22.15Kattythat's amusing.
13:22.25gordonjcpKatty: ?
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13:23.24DrukenWrkKatty: probably because your a chick, and alot of guys probably assume your computer stupid... ???
13:23.42Kattycute :)
13:24.00DrukenWrki'm serious...
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13:26.32gordonjcpyeah, that's probably it
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13:29.20bjohnsonI'm trying to use mplayer for MOH and it's working great.  Is more stable than mpg123 and can play a stream from slimplayer that lame and others cannot
13:29.36lehelAug 30 16:29:11 NOTICE[1935]: chan_iax2.c:7085 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 172.24.2.15, requested/capability 0x400/0x60e incompatible with our capability 0xf800.
13:29.53lehelanyone any idea .. why is this for?
13:30.12bjohnsonI have one problem .. I set up a daily cron job to kill it and restart it.  My cron reporting can't get past it since mplayer keeps sending stream updates.
13:30.41bjohnsonany ideas?  I start it with a '&' within the cron job to run it in the background
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13:31.40GanlronAny idea on this error http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/error.txt ?
13:33.44Ganlronextensions.conf: http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/extensions.conf and zapata.conf: http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/zapata.conf
13:35.08sivanawhat is the typical temp of a server room? 68F?
13:35.16Pkunki'm recieving incoming calls from LAN to asterisk via SIP , and then users use a voice menu to place outgoing calls to other numbers
13:35.41Pkunkhow do i set it so that asterisk forces client to use same codec as the outgoing call ?
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13:36.38marrandyhello everyone
13:36.40Pkunksometimes client uses ilbc , and outgoing call is in ulaw so it seems to reduces call quality
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13:37.20RoyKdoes chan_sip support several different registrations yet?
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13:37.33marrandyprogdocs - dot not found - which application do I need to install ?
13:37.41Pkunkpproblem is outgoing call codec is determined by the VOIP provider .. so it keeps changing , sometimes its even g729
13:38.08DrukenWrkiky... csolve..
13:39.06RoyKhm. does chan_sip/sip.conf/realtime allow for disabling users without deleting them?
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13:39.17DrukenWrkoh... Ganlron is on a csolve machine....
13:40.12DrukenWrki wonder if les is going ahead and going to try and become a voip provider on his own
13:40.55Ganlronhaha
13:41.05DrukenWrk:)
13:41.06GanlronI work for Les :P
13:41.25DrukenWrkwell, i kinda know that :)
13:41.45puzzledRoyK: in the last few days there have been major commits to the sip parts. check the cvs ml and see if it's in there
13:42.02Pkunkso , should i use canreinvite ?
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13:42.23GanlronAhhh James :)
13:42.31Pkunkwhat setting will make it to "retrain" the client to same codec as outgoing ?
13:42.32puzzledmarrandy: you can set HAVE_DOT = NO in contrib/asterisk-ng-doxygen
13:43.06puzzledPkunk: don't think it is possible to change codec once the call is setup
13:43.38Pkunkpuzzled: well initially the client connects and uses a Voice interactive menu to place outgoing call
13:44.16puzzledPkunk: then maybe catch which codec is used, hang up the call to the client and call it back with that codec
13:44.17GanlronKinda just playing with Asterisk on the side atm, think I'm having problems with incoming/outgoing on the FXO, I can see the call incoming and I can make it ring the phone on the FXS, but it seems to have a problem communicating back through the FXO.. not sure what
13:45.15Pkunkpuzzled: i guess its easier to just force client to only ulaw/alaw since i dont have bandwidth problem in LAN ?
13:45.49gordonjcpKatty: re newb thing - we have a couple of young women in our CE team, they get loads of "when's the real engineer coming" kind of comments
13:45.49puzzledPkunk: yes
13:45.55gordonjcpit's a total pita
13:46.18marrandypuzzled:  ok - but I know I fixed this before, I just didn't make a not of the file I added.
13:46.27marrandynot=note
13:46.35gordonjcpalthough to be honest one of them is about as stupid as it's possible to be and still be considered conscious
13:47.47DrukenWrkGanlron: do i know you personally? :)
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13:48.38t-pahey, I am running a php AGI script, the script is ran on INVITE, ACK and BYE. On INVITE the agi_extension field is the 'called number'. on ACK the field is 't' and on BYE it's 'h'... Anybody has any idea what they mean?
13:49.17puzzledt = timeout, h = hangup
13:49.57t-paofcoz.. thanks...
13:50.05GanlronI think I've talked to you a few times, plus didn't you goto the BLUG meetings?
13:50.15DrukenWrknewp
13:50.45Ganlronah
13:51.44Kattygordonjcp: yeah, i get that all the time too. it's friggin annoying.
13:52.02gordonjcpKatty: my gf used to get that when she worked at Fuji, too
13:52.47Kattywhat's even more annoying is when you talk to dell and they don't seem to know what it is you're talking about
13:53.02RoyKKatty: who?
13:53.32KattyRoyK: some asian guy.
13:53.46RoyKThe Generic Asian Guy
13:53.49GanlronSo did anyone have any thoughts on this error? :) http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/error.txt
13:53.55Kattyyup.
13:54.24DrukenWrkGanlron: the problem is in your zapata.conf
13:54.37DrukenWrkyour throwing your incoming call into your outgoing context
13:54.39RoyKGanlron: rtfm :)
13:55.15Kattywhat part of Give Me My License Number don't you understand?!
13:55.29KattyI even have the last four digits. this should not take 45 minutes!
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13:56.11KattyGanlron: sorry, i don't. But if you wait about 30 more minutes, there will be people in here that can help you. Not just bitter idiots ;)
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13:57.07DrukenWrkKatty: i already answered his problem
13:57.12KattyDrukenWrk: k
13:58.04gordonjcpKatty: not even some fairly limited thoughts involving small squeaky things and sleeping a lot?
13:58.15GanlronI just have to figure out how to correct it now :)
13:58.59DrukenWrkGanlron: i'll fix it for ya.. :) i have a reasonable hourly rate :)
13:59.36Ganlronheh, ya don't think Les would go for that :P  He doesn't really want me spending a lot of time on it
14:00.02gordonjcpGanlron: what exactly is it supposed to do?
14:00.15lathos42Katty: Is the call getting quieter and quieter as you get transferred each time?
14:00.39DrukenWrkGanlron: this is something for csolve, or something for home?
14:00.49DrukenWrkyou already ahve the voip phonesystem...
14:01.22Ganlronit's something I'm tinkering with atm, if I can get it working well enough can probably easily convince Les to drop our crappy Toshiba VOIP system :P
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14:01.38GanlronMTN charges something like $5000 to add a new extension :P
14:01.50leheldoes anyone has any idea about transferring calls on CAPI? it is possible?
14:01.57DrukenWrkhahaha that nasty thing on the wall upstairs across from his office, with 16 analog lines going into it :)
14:02.11GanlronThat would be it :)
14:02.56GanlronI don't know why he decided to put it in Midland, I have at least half a dozen PRIs here I could use for it :)
14:03.20DrukenWrkhehehe he doesn't know how a pri works... that's why
14:04.23Ganlronwe're down to only using about half a DS3 out of the OC3 for modems.. so lots of room
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14:05.33lathos42Hmmhesays: Keep waitin
14:05.35KattyHmmhesays: dell is treating me like shit.
14:05.39KattyHmmhesays: fix it.
14:05.50KattyHmmhesays: all i need is an 8 digit number. i even have the last 4
14:06.03Hmmhesayswhat are they doing?
14:06.20KattyHmmhesays: i called microsoft /first/ and they said talk to your reseller. this is your reseller, this is their phone number. kthxbi
14:06.24blueskyhi, i updated the kernel and now when installing zaptel i get this message: You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.9-1.667smp kernel installed.
14:06.25Kattyso i've been on the phone for an HOUR now
14:06.25Kattytransfered 6 times
14:06.29Kattyand now their all lolzwedon'thavethatkthxbi
14:06.47blueskyhow do i change the `uname -r`
14:06.57Hmmhesaysok what info are you looking for?
14:07.01lehelWARNING[30904]: cdr.c:421 ast_cdr_free: CDR on channel 'IAX2/290@290-2' not posted
14:07.07lehelwhat is happening?
14:07.17Kattyand i was all ooh no you don't do that to me. i called microsoft FIRST and they said YOU"D have it.
14:07.19Nuggetyou don't "change the uname".  uname reflects what kernel you are running.
14:07.20Kattywith added bitchbitchbitch
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14:07.43Hmmhesaysso what information are you looking for?
14:08.29gordonjcpKatty: it's only four digits you need, you could have guessed it by now
14:08.39KattyHmmhesays: license number.
14:08.51Kattygordonjcp: no, it's not.
14:08.52Hmmhesayswhat happened to the other 4 digits?
14:08.55Kattygordonjcp: don't presume to tell me what it is i need :)
14:09.09Hmmhesaysvaacum cleaner?
14:09.27KattyHmmhesays: they're **** on the paper
14:09.32Kattyno
14:09.32Kattythey're not listed.
14:09.32Kattyi have no license number.
14:09.39Kattyjust the last 4 digits.
14:09.44Hmmhesaysodd, what do you need the license number for?
14:10.03KattyHmmhesays: to renew the software assurance on small business server 2000
14:10.09Kattyto renew, you must add your agreement on microsoft's website
14:10.17Kattyand to add your agreement, you must have your full license numbe
14:10.22Kattyr
14:10.27Kattyexcept, on their notice, they didn't PUT the full number.
14:10.42Hmmhesaysdid you call tech support or sales?
14:11.34HmmhesaysI told dell they were going to send me a new laptop one time, they did.
14:11.41Kattyi called the number on the renewal notice first.
14:11.54Kattythey diercted me to my reseller, claiming they would have it.
14:12.06Kattyso now i'm on the phone with dell (the reseller)
14:12.28Kattyi think i talked to tech support first
14:12.32Kattythey transfered me to sales
14:12.37Kattytey transfered me to software
14:12.43Kattyi don't know from there.
14:13.18mishehuyou're in dell hell
14:13.31Kattyyes, i know
14:13.31h3xi hate dell shit
14:13.36h3xthey dont even manufacture anything anymore
14:13.36Hmmhesaysone time I told dell they are extending my warranty for free, they did.
14:13.36Kattyunfortunately, i've had to call in before >:(
14:14.07Hmmhesaysthen before that extended warranty was up I told them they are sending me a shiny new laptop
14:14.10Nuggetclearly the only rational solution is to buy a mac.
14:14.10Hmmhesaysthey did
14:14.11Kattynow that i think about it, i think i've called in to get it before
14:14.16spackleI don't hate Dell, I just don't buy it.
14:14.16Kattyto get my upgrade.
14:14.18DrukenWrkGanlron: sounds good... convince him to pay for it all, and i'll set it all up :)
14:14.19lathos42Katty: Want to try calling my companies Dell Software guy?  He's one of those people that will go find out the answer and not transfer you all over the place
14:14.45h3xa dell support contract costs more than the computer for the first year
14:14.52h3xyou may as well just buy two generic computers and have a backup
14:14.55h3xthats the way i look at it
14:14.58Kattylathos42: no
14:14.59mishehuheh
14:15.02Kattylathos42: i want to rant.
14:15.02Kattylathos42: saavy?
14:15.06Hmmhesaysbusiness support is better than home support
14:15.18file[lap1op]much better
14:15.37h3xi would hope so!
14:15.43mishehuKatty: are you using the <bitch> tag or the <moan> tag?  or is it a combination tag of <bitch+moan> ?  ;-)
14:15.46lathos42Katty:  I realize that, but I figured i'd give you the option.  He's always been really helpful when I've called him about similar types of software issues
14:15.52Hmmhesaysyou actually get to talk to someone in north america for biz support
14:16.04mishehuHmmhesays: what a privilige!
14:16.15Kattymishehu: it's more like whine, bitch, moan, grumble, i-will-have-your-head-if-this-is-not-taken-care-of
14:16.25Hmmhesaysdamn right, its like the thrill I get by talking to myself with app echo
14:16.27Kattylathos42: i don't want help.
14:16.29h3xif you dont buy a dell then your computer dosent break
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14:16.29h3xheh
14:16.35mishehubkw_: not so loud, it's still morning
14:16.35Kattylathos42: i am on the phone with dell. that's all the help i can stand.
14:16.44Kattylathos42: you must not understand female psychology.
14:17.19bkw_wtf is a waggle?
14:17.23mishehuKatty: there is female psychology?  I thought it was just all sorts of random things called "emotions" and "feelings"...  makes little sense to us tech guys!  *grin*
14:17.36Hmmhesaysif any male were to understand the female psych. his brain would asplode
14:17.37mishehubkw_: shaking his ass?
14:17.46bkw_Hmmhesays, no he would be gay
14:17.50file[lap1op]bkw_: I say we should just get a P2P
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14:17.58bkw_file i'm tempted to do that
14:17.58file[lap1op]and not have to put up with this bs anymore
14:18.04Kattymishehu: exactly.
14:18.26mishehuHmmhesays: it's like D. Adams said about the universe...  if anybody were to ever understand what it was there for and why, it would suddenly disappear and be replaced with something even more inexplicible.
14:18.58Hmmhesaysand then the clones head would asplode
14:19.17mishehuyou seem to like this "assploding"
14:19.35mishehuafter waggling at bkw...
14:19.53Hmmhesaysi didn't say what I waggled at bkw_ you sicko
14:19.57file[lap1op]shag carpet for all!
14:20.03MikeJ[Laptop]uhhhh
14:20.56Hmmhesays"That girl is going to have my babies.... as soon as I get a van with no windows!"
14:21.13mishehua van with no windows?
14:21.23file[lap1op]yay hot-n-sexy Hmmhesays, how are you?
14:21.31mishehu...because I live in a van by the river!
14:21.52Hmmhesaysfile[lap1op], i got 3 hours of sleepy, i'm a bit loopy
14:21.57file[lap1op]Hmmhesays: only a bit?
14:22.08Hmmhesayswell a bit more than usual
14:22.24file[lap1op]well that's sad
14:22.38_hannesoh menno
14:22.42_hannesoops
14:22.46_hanneswrong channel, sry
14:22.49HmmhesaysI was listening to some canadians in my cd player last night
14:23.09mishehuhow aboot you reboot eh?
14:23.23mishehuthis is canadian music eh?
14:23.46Hmmhesaysthat wild and crazy nickelback, with the fire on stage
14:23.59mishehuKatty: so whats the play-by-play thus far?
14:24.18mishehuhahahaah this is rich...   Creative Zens shipping with a worm in them.
14:24.23Kattyso the paper says go to eopen.microsoft.com
14:24.31mishehuyou know something like that was bound to happen sooner or later.
14:24.34Kattywhich in turn says contact your reseller to add your agreement
14:24.36Kattyand you CANM
14:24.43KattyT even renew your assurance there
14:24.43Hmmhesayswhenever I go to type out "dictionary" fast I end up with "dicationary"
14:24.54Kattythis paper is the MOST misleading thing i have EVER read
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14:27.32Hmmhesaysms has a good gaming platform
14:27.59KattyHmmhesays: let's fight
14:28.13Hmmhesaysbring it
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14:28.29HmmhesaysI say we play bouncy level
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14:28.53Hmmhesaysgod I love quake3
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14:29.19BuckRogersgood morning all
14:30.28BuckRogersslow day in the asterisk room huh?
14:30.41Hmmhesayswhen did motley crue become classic rock?
14:30.48clyrradgood morning :)
14:30.52BuckRogersin 1993
14:31.05BuckRogersafter Rap got big
14:31.08Hmmhesayswhen tommy lee stopped smashing bottle caps of coke into his nose
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14:31.29mishehu*aaaachooooo*
14:31.36BuckRogersbless ya
14:32.30BuckRogershas anyone here used ISphone as a wholesaler here?
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14:34.03clyrradHaving a problem with sound quality when more than one call are going at the same time.  Sounds like your cell phone when its out of range.  Does this sound like a problem with the Phones?  A problem with Asterisk or a Problem with the Provider?
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14:34.43BuckRogerssounds like a bandwidth issue
14:34.51BuckRogersor latency maybe
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14:35.05clyrradHrm....
14:35.08int3_hey
14:35.21int3_i got my ISA RockWell chipset modem working as an FXO.
14:35.22clyrradHow can I fix that?  I should have enough bandwidth
14:35.58BuckRogersjitter maybe
14:36.12bkw_clyrrad, using IAX?
14:36.20clyrradYes IAX
14:36.24bkw_which provider?
14:36.31clyrradNuFone
14:36.38clyrradand Link2Voip
14:36.39BuckRogersjer jer you here?
14:36.41clyrradit happens with both
14:36.42bkw_its IAX
14:36.47bkw_we have the same issues with IAX2
14:36.50bkw_we're asterlink
14:36.54clyrradREally......
14:36.56bkw_chance are its not NuFone's fault
14:36.58clyrradWhats the work around?
14:37.00bkw_yes really
14:37.03bkw_use SIP
14:37.12bkw_you hear audio clipping
14:37.14bkw_and drop outs
14:37.18bkw_on the PSTN side right?
14:37.18clyrradyes... exactly
14:37.24bkw_audio into you is fine?
14:37.25clyrradyes
14:37.27clyrradyou got it
14:37.30bkw_yep its IAX2
14:37.35clyrradDAMN
14:37.37bkw_<PROTECTED>
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14:37.44bkw_thats my test to show you
14:37.46clyrraddoes NuFone use SiP?
14:37.48clyrradok
14:37.50clyrradcalling
14:38.19clyrradouch LOL
14:38.25bkw_its loud
14:38.27bkw_its Milliwatt
14:38.31clyrradreally loud
14:38.36bkw_but listen to it for a few
14:38.46clyrradbreaks up a bit
14:38.48clyrradevery now and then
14:38.53clyrradbut not constant
14:39.11Ariel_bkw_, is this a bug that needs to be worked on with for iax2
14:39.15clyrradlike it drops
14:39.20bkw_Ariel_, yes
14:39.22clyrradok i'll try the next one
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14:39.32Ariel_sometimes iax2 is the only way to get calls via some nat firewalls
14:39.54bkw_IAX2 scales to about 10-15 calls before it starts to sound like ass
14:40.02clyrraddoes NuFone support SIP instead of IAX2?
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14:40.12bkw_clyrrad, I think he does
14:40.14clyrrador in my case 2 calls and sounds like ass
14:40.16BuckRogersyeah they do
14:40.22Hogieclyrrad: they support both, but you have to tell them which you want
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14:40.32clyrradthe second number sounds better
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14:40.34eipihi ppl
14:40.34bkw_we support both out of the box by default
14:40.35clyrraddoes not cut out as much
14:40.55clyrradbkw_ is the second number using SIP?
14:40.55bkw_clyrrad, exactly.. those cut outs the human ear can not hear it when its just voice
14:41.00bkw_clyrrad, correct
14:41.03bkw_the second number is SIP
14:41.16clyrradare you using NuFone?
14:41.21bkw_no i'm Asterlink
14:41.24eipiq: why voicemail is not using serveremail to send emails? (mails are rejected because FROM is root@<server>)
14:41.27bkw_thats going thru our system to my box here
14:41.36file[lap1op]I'm Asterlink! impostor!
14:41.44bkw_ok ok file is asterlink too
14:41.45BuckRogersyeah me too
14:41.47bkw_haha
14:41.47Hogiebkw, what all does Asterlink do?  Your website uses big words, and it confuses me
14:41.50clyrradWell that certainly clears that up.... I was wondering what the hell was going on
14:42.00bkw_Hogie, I didn't have anything to do with that site design
14:42.01bkw_I hate it
14:42.07bkw_I think we'll redo it soon
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14:42.18mishehuit is an antidisestablishment portal to the telecommunications environment
14:42.20bkw_Hogie, go to #asterlink
14:42.33Hmmhesaysplease keep most of the words single syllabul
14:42.39Hmmhesays*sylabul?
14:42.40lathos42bkw_: I'll redesign it for you..  I'm rather fond of No graphics, white text on a black background.. you'll be the bestest site ever!
14:42.51Hmmhesayslynx friendly!
14:43.09Corydon76-homesyllable
14:43.15bkw_lathos42, hehe I love simple sites
14:43.16Hmmhesays"me do voip rearl good" ./end_engrish
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14:44.12mishehureary good
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14:44.28bkw_reary?
14:44.34bkw_MY EYES MY EYES
14:44.36BuckRogershas anyone here worked with "isphone"
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14:44.55bkw_can't say that I have
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14:45.05HmmhesaysI remember one site I had way back when. it loaded a flash copy of "when I think about you I touch myself"
14:45.56BuckRogersbkw_, has the 911 deadline affected you guys at all?
14:46.37Hmmhesaysyou ever see that website where they did movie scenes all in ascii?
14:46.40bkw_BuckRogers, no we don't provide services that would qualify for 911 services
14:46.48bkw_tollfree number providers don't have to provide 911
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14:46.59lathos42Hmmhesays: Yeah, i've seen that I think
14:47.05BuckRogersahh all you offer is toll free?
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14:47.16bkw_we are also not sold as a land line replacement service
14:48.15BuckRogersbkw_ could you elaberate
14:48.31bkw_we are not ment to replace your land line services
14:48.40bkw_we don't come in as a vonage type service
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14:48.59BuckRogersso if you use your service you must have a pstn traditional line?
14:49.11BuckRogersor you just supply out going
14:49.13bjohnsononly if you want 911
14:49.25bjohnsona cell phone would also work for 911
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14:49.45eipiq: why voicemail is not using serveremail to send emails? (mails are rejected because FROM is root@<server>)
14:49.45BuckRogersyeah or just asking your customer if they need 911
14:50.22BuckRogersbut once agian the fcc has taking the freedom of choice away from the consumer
14:50.23bjohnsona pstn line is always handy for local calling anyway
14:51.19HmmhesaysI just have a very confusing exchange with a female
14:51.28Kattythat's normal.
14:51.37Hmmhesaysyes, the booze doesn't help
14:51.52Kattyeww.
14:51.59Hmmhesayswell, trying to remember wtf she was talking about
14:52.14lathos42Well, wish me luck everyone..  I'm about to go do the final pitch for our new phone system to the company president
14:52.22Kattylathos42: good luck (=
14:52.29Hmmhesayscause... well this may be a shocker, but I may have been a little bit intoxicated
14:52.34Hmmhesaysgood luck lathos42
14:53.15mishehulathos42: remember, don't use big words...  those scare the big whigs ;-)
14:53.29Hmmhesaysyou need to use buzz words
14:53.39mishehuthey only understand really short ones like TCO, ROI, etc etc.
14:53.42Hmmhesayslots of them strung in a row
14:53.51bjohnsonABC
14:53.59bjohnsonFYI
14:54.02mishehubjohnson: already been chewed?
14:54.10Hmmhesaysif your bullshit alarm is not screaming in your ear while you're pitching something like that, you're doing it wrong
14:54.17mishehunah, they don't like FYI, it sounds like you're telling htem they're stupid
14:54.40Hmmhesaysspecially when you make the L with your thumb and pointer finger on your forehead while saying it
14:54.50bjohnsonCYA
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14:55.23lathos42mishehu: so you dont think I should go in there and say "ohmygodicancustomizethedialplancallyourcellphoneemailyourvoicemailcalloutthroughthepstnorvoipusingsipiaxandzaptel" ? :)
14:56.17mishehulathos42: that is correct...   you have to squeeze in at least one breath there, you'll cause his head to explode otherwise
14:56.54mishehuKatty: but ask yourself...  is your company worth the killed braincells?
14:57.02lathos42mishehu: Oh, I have to breathe?  THATs what my problem has been
14:57.05Kattymishehu: no
14:57.11Kattymishehu: hence, the helmet
14:57.29mishehuKatty: you'll still lose at least one braincell even with the helmet
14:57.42Hmmhesayslathos42 you could always take the apocalypse approach "if you don't switch, fire will rain from above!"
14:57.42mishehulathos42:  you never knew why you were so blue?
14:57.53Kattysad
14:58.36mishehuhmm...  I have to think...  what would be a good ringtone for this polycom phone...
14:58.39Hmmhesayswhoa, I got some serious clipping on the milliwatt test
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14:59.03Hmmhesayssomeone call me on fwd and listen to this
14:59.13brad_msswdoes asterisk broadcast the local time for SIP devices ?
14:59.30brad_msswi have a sip device that I keep setting the time on, and it keeps resetting it an hour different
14:59.34puzzledbrad_mssw: usually the phones get it from an ntp server
14:59.41Hmmhesaysoh wait, milliwatt doesn't sound right with g729 does it
15:00.11brad_msswhmm ...wonder what this phone could be using
15:00.28brad_msswfor ntp or whatnot then
15:01.12puzzledbrad_mssw: an hour off usually means something is not set right like daylight savings
15:01.37brad_msswpuzzled: yeah, looked at the timezone settings
15:01.41brad_msswappears to be proper :/
15:02.09lathos42mishehu:  I always thought I was blue because I watched the Smurfs as a Kid
15:02.18puzzledhehe
15:02.38mishehulathos42: well, then why wouldn't you end up looking like gargamel instead?
15:02.53clyrradAnyone know how to have your NuFone account connect with SIP instead of IAX2?
15:02.56Hmmhesayssmurfette was kind of cute
15:03.01lathos42mishehu: Because he never won in the end, and I'm a WINNER!
15:03.18mishehulathos42: there was an end to it?
15:03.40mishehuI thought it was like that lambchop song
15:03.42tzangerclyrrad: contact nufone :-)
15:03.59clyrradLOL I have tried.... their PBX hangs up on you
15:04.14mishehuclyrrad: you must have pissed somebody off.
15:04.14clyrradThank-you for calling NuFone.... Good Bye :/
15:04.35clyrradnot sure how I have never needed to contact them before
15:04.50lathos42mishehu:  Well, he always got his plans thwarted by the end of the episode
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15:05.42clyrradIs anyone here using NuFone with SIP?
15:05.54lathos42And if you enter the secret code, then it rings my phone
15:07.04mishehulathos42: why not the monkeys throwing poo around sound clip?
15:07.19lathos42mishehu: That'll be if they enter the wrong code
15:07.19Hmmhesaysnext time  customer is really annoying I think i'll transfer them to the fbi or something
15:07.58bjohnsonI would be surprised if a IVR DIDN'T say "We are experienced a higher call volume than expected/normal/paid for"
15:09.36tzangerbjohnson: agreed
15:09.50lathos42"Please hold for the next available <monkey poo sound>"
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15:12.31Hmmhesaysanyone know why they have so many waits macros?
15:12.34lathos42I want to start a phone company so I can make my slogan "X Company, we put the Ass in Asterisk"
15:12.44Corydon76-homeHmmm, with no comments, I wonder I've sufficiently documented 5055
15:15.32Hmmhesaysthat is very odd, their dial macro has like 6 seconds of wait built in
15:15.52Hmmhesaysnot "answer then wait" either, wait before using goto
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15:16.18Ariel_Hmmhesays, does the system keep ringing when it's waiting?
15:16.29file[lap1op]tries, haha
15:16.36file[lap1op]I have nooooo food... er wait I could cook
15:16.45bkw_cook?
15:16.52file[lap1op]I know it's a crazy concept
15:16.53bkw_thats not something little boys know how to do
15:17.01file[lap1op]yeah I don't know how to cook
15:17.03file[lap1op]that's the problem
15:17.09bkw_cooking, cleaning.. these are things mothers do
15:17.17HmmhesaysAriel_ no the ringing doesn't start till dial
15:17.29file[lap1op]I could order food, and then head out grocery shopping tonight I suppose
15:17.35file[lap1op]lemme see what's here first though
15:17.43Hmmhesayshave you ever looked at the from-pstn-reghours macro?
15:17.57Ariel_file[lap1op], tuna fish is easy to make
15:18.07Hmmhesayser... not macro, context
15:18.10Ariel_Hmmhesays, yes I have
15:18.33Ariel_you can cut that down on the wait but they do it for fax detection
15:18.35Hmmhesayss,3 s,7 s,10 s,13 are all wait()
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15:19.12file[lap1op]I could make kraft dinner
15:19.33Ariel_file[lap1op], take caned tuna, mayo and mix it up add some spices and a few other vegies and you have a great start.
15:19.39Ariel_file[lap1op], no cooking needed.
15:19.42file[lap1op]I don't like seafood
15:19.44file[lap1op]like tuna
15:19.45HmmhesaysAriel_ that makes sense, I see the nofax context only has 2 seconds of wait
15:19.45file[lap1op]:P
15:20.03Ariel_Hmmhesays, I edit most of mine any way
15:20.19vlrkhas any body tried the mrtg with asterisk ?
15:20.21Hmmhesaysone thing I will say about the aah guys... they have built one helluva dialplan
15:20.33vlrkiam getting error while authentication
15:20.44Ariel_what is mrtg
15:20.59file[lap1op]okay folks
15:21.03file[lap1op]I'm going to try to make kraft dinner
15:21.08vlrkmulti router traffic grapher
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15:21.17wasimmany ruminants tolerate gophers
15:21.18file[lap1op]if atlantic canada burns down, it was my fault
15:21.19puzzledAriel_: nice snmp info grapher
15:21.31vlrkyes puzzled you are right
15:21.43vlrkiam using the asterisk-1.0.9
15:21.52vlrkand in manager.conf iam giveing one account
15:21.59vlrkand enabled it
15:22.08vlrkwith port no 5038
15:22.22file[lap1op]frell
15:22.32vlrkwhile running the shell script file giveing this detail but its giveng error
15:22.38vlrkas Missing Channels
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15:25.14file[lap1op]now I'm annoyed
15:26.10vlrkkram: any adivces related to asterisk + mrtg
15:26.36bkw_http://www.therupauldoll.com/
15:26.56vlrkbkw_ is it directed to me
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15:27.15bkw_no dear
15:27.23vlrkthx
15:27.53vlrki was desparetly waiting for responses in that process what ever people are typeing i think it s for me
15:28.12bkw_asterisk+mrtg thats a funny concept
15:28.14bkw_use cacti
15:28.21bkw_I count channel usage with it
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15:29.02vlrkbkw_ is it like tool based one ?
15:29.47bkw_asterisk needs to stop walking the live memory structures
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15:30.37tzangerbkw_:  but that's the most fun
15:30.49bkw_ya and that tab completion is a killer too
15:30.57bkw_tag a segfault if the conditions are right :P
15:31.03bkw_er tab
15:31.08bkw_I have tab'ed a deadlock before
15:31.09file[lap1op]tag 112604!
15:31.19bkw_like anyone knows what that means mr. file
15:31.20bkw_haha
15:31.25file[lap1op]oh no, generation failure!
15:31.35bkw_haha
15:31.58jeroanyone using asterisk zeroconf ?
15:32.04jerobkw ?
15:32.06bkw_no
15:32.23jeroIm unable to get mdnsd responding the requests
15:33.16gtigeneWhat is astman?
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15:35.58marrandyHi...I just did a new install by way of the CVS repository  http://www.asterisk.org/download  and on booting had no zaptel modules, there is also no /dev/zap folder - why ???
15:36.25DrukenWrkmarrandy: do you have any hardware?
15:36.28Kattymarrandy: did you modprobe?
15:37.08Kattymarrandy: and insmod?
15:37.14Kattymarrandy: or ztcfg?
15:39.19mutilatorare there any sounds in asterisk-sounds that say 'long distance'?
15:39.36gtigeneWhat is astman?
15:40.13marrandyI have a digium XP100 and TDM400 - modeprobe, ztcfg won't work with no /dev/zap
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15:40.57marrandyWhy wasn't the /dev/zap entries added during the build ?
15:40.59azrishahrilanyone know how to configure wct4xxp with clarent E1 ?
15:41.02gtigenenever mind
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15:41.30dtwilsonhey - anybody here any god with unixodbc? trying to get cdr_mysql going
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15:42.16dtwilsoncdr connects fine to the odbc driver - but my issue is that unixodbc seems to be unable to read the user credentials for the datasource from odbc.ini
15:42.53dtwilsonand instead is simply attempting to pass the current shell user without password to my remote MySQL machien
15:42.56dtwilsonany ideas?
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15:43.52MorakaiHello everyone, I'm new to the channel =)
15:44.35file[lap1op]I never would have guessed
15:45.10gtigeneazrishajril: Do you want the zaptel.conf settings?
15:45.26bkw_大家晚安~ <-- Everyone good night ~
15:45.31marrandyI'm going to go for current instead - cvs checkout -r v1-0 zaptel libpri asterisk asterisk-addons asterisk-sounds
15:45.33gtigeneWpw
15:45.41gtigeneer. Wow
15:46.17Morakaihehe, I'll keep quiet, I know your all probably experience asterisk dev's
15:46.32MorakaiI'm just starting to learn about it for my job
15:46.45gtigeneMorakai: ask your questionn
15:46.49coppicebkw_: correct. your chinese much be improving. something to do with working in canton? :-)
15:46.50Delvaractuly most of us are just here for the beer
15:46.56Hmmhesaysbkw_ you get that fanta capture yet? I want to make it the ringtone on my phone
15:47.01bkw_NO
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15:47.11pawallsHmm.. handle_response in chan_sip.c does some weird things....
15:47.15bkw_coppice, hehe
15:47.18Hmmhesayshope to it
15:47.19bkw_so unamerican of me right?
15:47.20Hmmhesays*hop even
15:47.25bkw_Hmmhesays, no
15:47.28bkw_fanta boi
15:47.47coppicebkw_: OK. Now how to you say that?
15:47.51bkw_the translation of Moose penis in chinese is elk penis
15:48.02Hmmhesaysyou would know that wouldn't you
15:48.25bkw_是
15:48.39bkw_i'm shocked anyone can see that
15:48.44MorakaiWell, I've installed Asterisk, AMP, etc everything seems to be running good...I'm just having trouble finding documentation on how to make...
15:48.53Morakaia extension go to a phone
15:48.55pauldyI can see it
15:49.04pauldywhats it mean running man with stiffining wood
15:49.04Morakaivia sipura(sp) box
15:49.05file[lap1op]bkw_: I see it as well :P
15:49.05Hmmhesaysi can't
15:49.13coppicebkw_: you're looking this up on zhongwen.com aren't you?
15:49.16bkw_file you and I have a real OS
15:49.32bkw_coppice, no actually I seen it in Blazint's quit message
15:49.39bkw_put it into the translator on my dashboard
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15:49.47bkw_My boss is chinese
15:50.00file[lap1op]you should talk chinese to him some time
15:50.03file[lap1op]watch him freak out or something
15:50.07bkw_talk?
15:50.13pauldytype
15:50.13file[lap1op]over AIM twat :P
15:50.13bkw_I msged him chinese before
15:50.15bkw_he freaked out
15:50.19file[lap1op]haha
15:50.43supaigtrAnybody know if this "chan_sip.c:1311 __sip_ack: Stopping retransmission on" is the cause of lost voice during a conversation?
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15:51.36file[lap1op]bkw_: would you like to bet on whether Holly manages  to perfectly time the arrival of my pay again this month?
15:51.47bkw_file she will
15:51.49bkw_she always does
15:51.57bkw_she might even be early
15:52.10file[lap1op]that's crazy talk!
15:52.16bkw_I need a few days off soon
15:52.23bkw_or i'm gonna go nutz and start killing people
15:52.24file[lap1op]oh god
15:52.54file[lap1op]you can kill Teddy if you want
15:53.07file[lap1op]he's being silly
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15:53.14bkw_:P
15:53.18bkw_na teddy is fine
15:53.33file[lap1op]apparently for the daily balance event, he doesn't have a special token for balance...
15:53.41bkw_he is doing that righ tnow
15:53.41file[lap1op]which kind of defeats the purpose of a daily balance event
15:53.50bkw_him and I had a chat bout it
15:54.05file[lap1op]why was he worried about the db?
15:55.11generalhancan anyone help me out with my tftp server for my cisco 7960 ?
15:55.19doolphwhere can I do free calls to toll free numbers, I know fwd, but does exists another one?
15:55.30Ariel_doolph, sipphone
15:55.35file[lap1op]doolph: someone on ENUM has a route published
15:55.42file[lap1op]it works most of the time
15:55.52gtigeneMorakai: exten => 100,1,Dial(Zap/5) for example
15:55.55file[lap1op]goes out a Cisco 5300... in Michigan...
15:56.00doolphfile[lap1op] how do I signup to enum
15:56.12file[lap1op]doolph: go on voip-info.org and read about what it is
15:56.21gtigeneMorakai: exten \=> 100,1,Dial(Zap/5) for example
15:56.42Hmmhesaysnow how am I going to parse this horrible config file in perl
15:57.09Ariel_hummm something new exten \=>
15:57.13Hmmhesaysits colon delimited
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15:57.49Ariel_colon delimited?
15:58.14HmmhesaysAriel_ its a mediatrix getwalk
15:58.17Hmmhesaysfrom an 1124
15:58.55HmmhesaysI need to turn it into an xml config file
15:59.01Ariel_ahh
15:59.10darkskiezHmmhesays: take the * parsing code, and write using it as a reference
15:59.26Hmmhesaysi'm not even going to attempt it in C
15:59.38darkskiez"as a reference"
16:00.15Hmmhesayshey bkw_ what do you think about config file parsing in asterisk?
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16:00.28bkw_Hmmhesays, it would be a wonderful idea!
16:00.34Hmmhesayslol
16:00.37file[lap1op]The current time is 1PM.
16:00.58bkw_Hmmhesays, it ranks up there with world peace!
16:01.29Hmmhesaysand flying cars.
16:01.39bkw_you got it
16:01.45Ariel_file[lap1op], your an hour ahead
16:01.45bkw_now where are those flying cars we were promised?
16:01.58Hmmhesayswww.skycar.com ?
16:01.58file[lap1op]Ariel_: darn tootin' right
16:01.59Trionnisis anyone here familiar with a way to get a decent semi-natural sounding voice with Festival?
16:02.01Ariel_in your dreams
16:02.51coppiceTrionnis: well, most of the good sounding TTS packages are based on festival
16:03.06darkskiezTrionnis: tried mbrola ? it might be worse, but there are others
16:03.09coppiceof course, it took a lot to get them where they are
16:03.13Trionnishm
16:03.19TrionnisI'll check it out
16:03.28Trionnisthe default just seems really choppy
16:03.31Trionnis:-/
16:03.42pauldychoppy? what kind of system are you running it on
16:03.47Trionniswell
16:03.52Trionnisnot literally choppy
16:03.58Trionnishalting and whatnot
16:04.04pauldyjust real synthetic sounding
16:04.08Trionnisright
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16:05.03pauldyyea the cepestral stuff is expesive
16:05.12TrionnisI checked that out
16:05.20Trionnisit still sounds pretty, meh
16:05.24pauldythey do sound good though
16:05.37Trionnisyeah
16:06.06Trionnisbetter than the default :)
16:06.08coppicecepstral expensive? :-\ that's news. most TTS packages are $500-1000 per port
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16:06.25Trionnishm
16:06.27Trionnisthat's not too bad
16:06.38Trionnishmmmmm
16:06.44TrionnisI'll consider it :)
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16:07.31DrukenWrkuhg... all this doing nothing has sure made me hungry
16:07.32darkskiezwhat do BT use  ?
16:07.44darkskiezthey do SMS TTS for text messages to land lines
16:08.22puzzledpauldy: isn't cepstral about $30?
16:08.34bkw_not for telephony apps
16:08.44pauldycoppice, from what I've read to get it working you are looking at about 500-1000
16:09.05gtigeneIs this right? "cvs checkout -r HEAD asterisk"
16:09.09bkw_you need an Audio Distribution License
16:09.17bkw_and Concurrency License
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16:09.28Ariel_cvs checkout asterisk
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16:10.04gtigeneAriel: "cvs checkout asterisk" gets cvs head?
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16:12.17Trionnishow about festvox
16:12.22Trionnisis that a decent one?
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16:12.42coppicethat is not TTS. its a voice building kit
16:12.50Trionniser
16:12.56Trionnisnot sure I follow
16:13.05Trionnissorry, a bit noobish with TTS stuff
16:13.14coppiceits a toolkit to help build voices for festival
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16:13.20gtigeneWhat do you get with "cvs checkout asterisk  libpri zaptel" please
16:13.26coppiceor many other TTS systems
16:13.30Trionnisah
16:13.31Trionnisok
16:13.54serg_bwho can help me to debug dsp.c to see how busy tone detected on fxo?
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16:14.45gordonjcpserg_b: have you read through dsp.c?
16:14.53serg_byes
16:15.04gordonjcpwhat do the comments say
16:15.28coppice"this tone detector is bloody hopeless"?
16:15.42Hmmhesaysok this getwalk is bassackwards
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16:16.15serg_bgordonjcp: there is a lot of comments. which one ?
16:16.21nicodejohi i'm nick from
16:16.23nicodejofrance
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16:16.42bkw_hi i'm brian from Oklahoma
16:16.57bkw_;)
16:17.03file[lap1op]hi... I'm Josh, from New Brunswick eh?
16:17.11bkw_omg he said eh?
16:17.16file[lap1op]OMG!
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16:17.50gordonjcpserg_b: there should be stuff to give you an idea what's going on in there
16:18.01pauldywhats the difference between diphones and alaphones
16:18.22file[lap1op]yes...
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16:18.32serg_bgordonjcp: how to debug ast_dsp_busydetect ?
16:19.34serg_bgordonjcp: i added line at the end that logs avgtone & avgsilence. results a littlre strange
16:19.56serg_bgordonjcp: avgtone from 300 to 1500, avgsilence from 10 to 40
16:20.04gordonjcpodd
16:20.08Trionnisok, is anyone here capable to use festvox to build me a voice for a festival application?
16:20.13Trionnispaid, of course
16:20.29Hmmhesaysis there a command in perl to search for the first occurence and return everything to the right?
16:20.30gordonjcpI've never tried building a voice with festvox
16:20.35gordonjcphow difficult is it?
16:20.38Hmmhesayser function
16:20.39Trionnisheh
16:20.40puzzledasterisk-sounds sounds-extra.txt from head seems to be missing .gsm  in the last few entries. anyone want a patch to fix it in cvs?
16:20.47serg_bgordonjcp: any ideas why this happens?
16:20.49gtigeneDoes anyone know the wiki page that tells you how to get cvs head?
16:20.53Trionniswell, it's making my head spin
16:21.08Trionnisgtigene: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Download
16:21.09nicodejoi'm a student and i want to build an asterisk server for a student project, so i need help just about one thing : do you now which pci card i need to buy for connect my server to the french isdn network
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16:21.59coppicea wiki that tells you how to get head? interesting :-)
16:22.04gtigenenicodejo: You mean, like E1 PRI?
16:22.11Trionnislol
16:22.14clyrradhahahah I would like to see that wiki :P
16:22.16Trionnisgood play :)
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16:23.10pauldyhe said get head
16:23.12Ariel_nicodejo, there are some isdn cards and capi type cards that you can use.
16:23.14nicodejogtigene : i don't know in france the plug name is T0
16:23.16puzzlednicodejo: search voip-info.org. for BRI you can get a cheap hfc-s based isdn card, an AVM Fritz! card or an expensive active isdn card like the Eicon Diva Server & AVM C4 or the cards from Sirrix or Junghanns
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16:23.29r0mvideolan
16:23.42gordonjcpserg_b: not really, no
16:24.02nicodejogene> nicodejo: You mean, like E1 PRI?
16:24.02nicodejo<Trionnis> lol
16:24.02nicodejo<clyrrad> hahahah I would like to see that wiki :P
16:24.03nicodejo<Trio
16:24.19nicodejosorry bad cmd
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16:25.58Trionnisanyone? bueller? bueller?
16:25.58nicodejopuzzled : i any cards on asterisk site but only T1 connetion and in france is T0
16:26.00Trionnis:)
16:26.23puzzlednicodejo: T0? neber heard of it. do you mean E1?
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16:27.03nicodejopuzzled not E1 but maybe i don't no what is realy E1
16:27.38nicodejopuzzled is it an isdn connection ?
16:27.48pauldye1 is european t1, 23 bri style interfaces if I remember correctly
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16:27.54puzzlednicodejo: E1 is the European version of T1. Something like isdn/rdnis with 30 channels
16:27.55TrionnisI thought it was 29
16:28.20puzzlednope
16:28.20pauldybah someone google it
16:28.30Trionnis~google E1
16:28.49ryanscits 32 channels
16:28.51Trionnis=|
16:28.53nicodejoTrionnis THX
16:29.06gtigenenicodejo: I have a document that tells you how to connect to E1 ISDN PRI. I can email it to you. But PRI is expensive if you only need two channels maybe you can use BRI
16:29.09Trionnisbot's not working, or I dont' remember the command
16:29.11Trionnis:)
16:29.22pauldyThe E1 interface provides a 2048 kbit/s access rate. It can support up to 32 user channels, each of 64 kbit/s access rate
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16:29.26puzzledryansc: ugh, off course. too much headache today
16:29.37coppicepauldy: wrong
16:29.47puzzledhehe
16:29.53pauldycoppice, direct cut and paste from the e1 tutorial
16:29.54puzzledwho gets it right?
16:29.58nicodejopuzzled thx
16:30.02coppicethey are wrong.
16:30.12TrionnisI don't think it's 32 channels
16:30.18pauldybut I read it on the internet
16:30.20nicodejomy mail niclas_mj5@yahoo.com
16:30.23TrionnisI'm thinking it's 30 -1 signalling
16:30.41gtigeneE1 ISDN PRI is 32 channels of which only 30 can carry voice
16:30.57nicodejopuzzled so E1 is not T0
16:31.01ryanscthats possible, ive only studied isdn as a data connection
16:31.02coppiceits 31 user channels + 1 sync. In most uses one of the user channels is for signalling, leaving 30 for voice. some things, like SS7, permit 31 voice channels
16:31.24puzzlednicodejo: I don't know what T0 is. Never heard of it. Is it a french standard?
16:31.42pauldyuhm coppice hows that different from what I just pasted
16:31.45Trionnissounds like ISDN to me
16:31.52nicodejopuzzled 2 voice cannal + 1 data
16:31.55Trionnissingle channel isdn at that
16:32.15nicodejopuzzled 2 cannal b and 1 D
16:32.19ryanscbri is 2B+D
16:32.21Trionnisok
16:32.22pauldyjust because it can support doesn't mean they don't have implimentstation for framming and error correction leaving 30 channels for voice
16:32.23puzzlednicodejo: ah ok so you need a BRI card. basic rate isdn. I gave you examples a bit back
16:32.30ryanscPRI is 23B+D
16:32.46puzzledno that's stupid US PRI :)
16:32.46coppice"It can support up to 32 user channels"
16:32.48coppice"its 31 user channels"
16:32.49puzzledwe get more
16:32.50coppicenotice a difference there?
16:33.10opus_what is hints used for in the dial plan?
16:33.18nicodejopuzzled thx U saving me !
16:33.21pauldynot when you add the sync which give 32 channels
16:33.36mkrufkypuzzled: not stupid US PRI .... just different ;-)
16:33.42puzzlednicodejo: y're welcome. good luck with building the system. go to voip-info.org for info about asterisk
16:33.45coppiceyou seem to have some problem with English
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16:34.07puzzledmkrufky: yeah, like SPIDs are the invention of a sane person :)
16:34.54pauldyno I just don't have a problem reading engineering specs
16:35.33coppicepauldy: well, when you manage to get 32 user channels into an E1, tell me
16:35.39puzzledpauldy: the *user* part is incorrect. not all chans are *user* as in capable of transporting e.g. voice
16:35.54puzzledand patent it :)
16:35.58nicodejopuzzled thx ! i'll go to voip-info.org
16:36.01pauldyaccording to the spec for e1 that I just read they can be used for user data
16:36.15coppicethen the spec is wrong
16:36.23generalhananyone in here used a cisco 7960 phone with * ?
16:36.31nicodejoTHX every body and bye bye it's evening here i need to sleep !
16:36.37puzzledpauldy: perhaps as clear channel but not as a PRI
16:36.37nicodejoCU
16:36.44pauldywell it was pretty detailed even going into the function of the demuxer and there did not seem to be a problem with that
16:37.24pauldythe implimentation of the e1 from your provider however may use the channels differently
16:37.35pauldyhows that so hard to understand
16:37.51coppiceyou seem to be having considerable trouble
16:37.57pauldyw/e
16:38.08JunK-Ymooooo
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16:40.19pauldyI'll clarify you are talking from an implimentation standpoint I'm mearly reading the specs of the standard
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16:59.56blitzragebkw_: j00 around?
17:00.03bkw_yes
17:00.24blitzragebkw_: do you have a couple mins to look at this IAX2 debug to make sure I'm not *cRaZy* ?
17:00.32blitzragebkw_: I think matching is wrong in IAX2...
17:00.37blitzrage(user/peer matching)
17:00.38bkw_well I already know you're crazy
17:00.39cypromisdoes it contain coffee ?
17:00.42blitzragebkw_: :D
17:00.46bkw_pastebin it
17:00.56bkw_blitzrage, IAX2 has more than that as a problem :P
17:01.02blitzragebkw_: I'm sure :)
17:01.11bkw_I personally stopped using it
17:01.22blitzrageyah... no maintainer...
17:01.30blitzragebut this seems like something that should work... :)
17:02.42bkw_blitzrage, chop chop.. ain't got all day boi :P
17:03.00Sedorox<PROTECTED>
17:03.02Sedoroxer
17:03.12bkw_12:01  up 7 days,  9:45, 5 users, load averages: 0.49 0.62 0.60
17:03.14bkw_ya ya
17:03.18Sedoroxlol
17:03.21Sedorox<PROTECTED>
17:03.23bkw_exec -o baby
17:03.30bkw_Darwin imac.local 8.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.2.0: Fri Jun 24 17:46:54 PDT 2005; root:xnu-792.2.4.obj~3/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
17:03.34Sedoroxyea. but I idn't want to output it :p
17:04.18bkw_oh loverly
17:04.21bkw_that lined up correctly
17:05.03blitzragebkw_: http://pastebin.com/350214
17:05.24clyrradAnyone know of a good URL or working example of how to tell your callers what number they are in the call queue at a predefined interval?
17:05.49blitzrageclyrrad: asterisk documentation doesn't really work that way...
17:06.06clyrradwhat do you mean documentation?
17:06.29bkw_blitzrage, crank up the debug boi
17:06.43clyrradLooking for any URL or example to show how to do that :)
17:06.49blitzragebkw_: notice the SP is sending it to two different peer names, but the peer is only matching on one (the one at the bottom of the file). If I switch the user/peers around, it matches on a different one
17:07.06JerJerSedorox: good luck - we got it operational on a P4 - Prescott without that much trouble
17:07.15blitzrageclyrrad: yah - asterisk doesn't really get documented like that - you get more of how things work, then you have to usually figure it out yourself
17:07.24JerJerwith a GeForce 5200 video card - looks absolutely amazing
17:07.48clyrradblitzrage.... yep kinda noticed that :)  Have you implemented what I am trying to do?
17:08.14bkw_blitzrage, try doing this without a macro
17:08.22bkw_you're doing a macro on one end or the other right?
17:08.28bkw_try just a simple play file
17:08.32bkw_simplify
17:08.42bkw_then if tha tworks... you know macro os hozed again
17:08.48bkw_s/os/is/
17:09.17bkw_also an iax2 debug
17:09.18blitzragebkw_: dialplan is just a simple play tt-weasels
17:09.25bkw_I would have to see the debug
17:09.43Sedorox[13:07] <JerJer> Sedorox: good luck - we got it operational on a P4 - Prescott without that much trouble
17:09.44Sedoroxcool
17:09.50Sedoroxhow did you do it if I may ask?
17:10.35Sedoroxthe one way I was gonna try it.. I have to wait for someone, so I can download a iso.. but eh
17:10.50Sedoroxthis is a p4 3.2gig EE/HT, Prescott
17:10.54bkw_illegal warez talk
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17:11.24Sedorox:p
17:11.32Sedoroxsomeone I know tried it.. b
17:11.34bkw_my OSX is 100% legit
17:11.45bkw_its the one OS I don't mind paying fore
17:11.49Sedoroxbut since his computer doesn't have sata it didn't work
17:11.54bkw_er for
17:11.58Sedoroxbkw_: honestly.. if they actually release it for x86.. I would by it
17:12.01LoRezbkw_: are you ever in the OKC area?
17:12.04gordonjcpgot licences for *everything*
17:12.14gordonjcpeven the old/obscure/obsolete stuff
17:12.14bkw_LoRez, no.. McAlester, OK area
17:12.31gordonjcpI may have bought the last ever TSX+ licence
17:13.25LoRezbkw_: never ever?
17:13.51bkw_oh I haven't been to OKC in ages
17:14.07bkw_last time was May 3rd 1999... don't really feel like going back :P
17:14.16blitzragebkw_: http://pastebin.com/350221 <-- incoming 9921
17:14.22LoRezhelping with tornado cleanup?
17:14.32Sedoroxhmmm
17:14.44bkw_LoRez, no I was in it
17:14.48blitzragebkw_: does the same thing if calling from a different user - matches on the last peer/user in the file
17:14.54bkw_LoRez, I was under the overpass at Shields and I-35
17:14.58bkw_blitzrage, cause 0
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17:15.22LoRezbkw_: nice.  my storage unit was right there at that intersection.  needless to say it was no more afterwards
17:15.37bkw_LoRez, so that was your shit smacking me in the face eh?
17:15.43blitzragebkw_: cause 0 - huh?
17:15.45bkw_AST_CAUSE_NOTDEFINED
17:16.01bkw_line 177
17:16.04bkw_it hangs up with cause 0
17:16.05LoRezyou didn't happen to see a little goldish pancake air compressor fly by did ya? ;)
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17:16.24hugo-v6hi CoaxD
17:16.24Katty^_-
17:16.27CoaxDhiya
17:16.29bkw_LoRez, not really... it was aweful dark in the vortex
17:16.31CoaxDuser 'Romeo' is spamming on join
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17:16.40SedoroxKatty: might wanna have that eye looked at
17:16.41blitzragebkw_: thats an entirely different problem - thats at the end, I expect it to hangup at that point
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17:16.53blitzragebkw_: its the matching of the peer thats the problem
17:16.53CoaxDbuh bye
17:16.54LoRezCoaxD: thanks, he's klined :)
17:16.54fugitivohello
17:16.57KattySedorox: hrmm?
17:16.58bkw_ok
17:17.04Sedorox:p
17:17.06KattySedorox: as a warning, i'm very annoyed right now
17:17.20CoaxDLorez: Appreciate it
17:17.21bkw_blitzrage, show me your config for both ends in iax.conf
17:17.22BrianR___Has anyone figured a way of sending ephemeral text messages to polycom phones?
17:17.25KattySedorox: as a standard safety precaution, i would recommend not teasing me unless you want to loose a head. :)
17:17.48Sedoroxsorry.. just trying to make a small joke :p
17:17.53Kattyk (=
17:17.53bkw_blitzrage, cvs-head? or stable?
17:18.11Sedorox;-)
17:18.15CoaxDKatty: You need to get laid. :P
17:18.18lathos42Hmm.. Well, I thought that I would be pitching * by now.. but the president, she is not here
17:18.22Sedoroxwhat are you annoyed at? work?
17:18.35blitzragebkw_: PSTN --> SP (1.0.9) --> Asterisk (HEAD)
17:18.45KattyCoaxD: lies.
17:18.50blitzragebkw_: 1.0.9 is dialing user1 and user2 respectively as expected
17:18.51bkw_who is the SP?
17:18.52KattyCoaxD: having sex does not fix anything.
17:19.07LoRezKatty: your state of mind it fixes.
17:19.07blitzragebkw_: doesnt' really matter :)
17:19.09Sedoroxhow about a date with a nice guy?
17:19.09CoaxDKatty: YES IT DOES! It fixes stress, girl!
17:19.16bkw_yes if they installed cvs-head then went back to stable
17:19.21bkw_and forgot to rm -rf /usr/include/asterisk
17:19.23blitzragebkw_: they didn't
17:19.28bkw_it will act funky
17:19.29KattyLoRez: CoaxD: thanks but i'll stay a virgin for awhile longer. kthxbi
17:19.33blitzragebkw_: I did it myself :)
17:19.35bkw_ok
17:19.40bkw_I recall you learning that lesson already
17:19.42CoaxDKatty: Doh. Virgins suck.  (Well, its the only thing they CAN do.)
17:19.46bjohnson??
17:19.47blitzragebkw_: oh yes - many times :D
17:19.49bkw_I don't get the exact issue you're having here
17:19.59KattyCoaxD: hi. shut up and leave me alone? (=
17:20.00bkw_can you tell me the bottom line issue you're having because itis not clear
17:20.02blitzragebkw_: ok, let me try to explain... (because it really wierd)
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17:20.05bkw_blitzrage, call 996
17:20.06CoaxDKatty: hi thx bye
17:20.08hugo-v6.o(virgins here?)
17:20.13KattyCoaxD: kthx
17:20.14blitzragebkw_: calling
17:20.15Sedorox<--- virgin...
17:20.16CoaxDkatty: kthx
17:20.22bjohnsonhtnx
17:20.27Morakai<- ASterisk virgin
17:20.27hugo-v6Sedorox: im not intrestet thx ;)
17:20.27CoaxDSedorox: Aside from having a 5 year old son, i'm a virgin :) :)
17:20.33hugo-v6s/et/ed/
17:20.33Sedoroxlol
17:20.50CleanerXcould someone stop redirecting traffic from #flirt ?
17:20.57Nuggetwhen did #asterisk turn into #teenchat?  :)
17:20.58fugitivolast night it was a chat about trains, sex and pigs
17:21.04Sedoroxlol
17:21.04fugitivonow it's about virgins
17:21.10Sedoroxlol
17:21.15hugo-v6.o(hmmmm pigs)
17:21.41Kattybkw_: i need a hug, dear.
17:21.44gordonjcpmmmmmm piiiiiiigs
17:22.04hugo-v6.o(suckling pigs)
17:22.21bjohnsonfugitivo: you missed the chickens
17:22.23Hmmhesayswhoa
17:22.28tzangerhahaha
17:22.38KattyHmmhesays: hug plskthx.
17:24.09Sedoroxhmmm
17:24.20generalhanAnyone in here familar with the cisco 7960s with asterisk ???? i need alittle help !
17:24.37Nuggetsure.
17:24.38Kattygeneralhan: just ask your question.
17:24.47Nuggeter, I mean...
17:24.49Nuggetsure !!!!
17:25.01Katty<PROTECTED>
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17:25.49generalhanwell ... i loaded up the tftp server and put the files in there. i think i have followed all the instructions on the wiki, yet when i load up my phone it just sits at the "requesting configuration" and hangs there forever
17:26.00hardwireweird problem.
17:26.06hardwireI will often dial via sip to an iax provider
17:26.13hardwireand be stuck in an echo
17:26.21Nuggetcheck the tftpd logs and see if the phone is making requests
17:26.26hardwirewhile the call completes the phone I am calling from is still echoed
17:26.43generalhanNugget: i appologize im a big time newb to this ... what logs ?
17:26.50hardwiresometimes its more than that.. I actually pick up a zap channel
17:26.53hardwireor steal it
17:26.55Nuggetthe logs for your tftpd server.
17:27.00generalhanright but where are they ?
17:27.01hardwireanybody ever experienced this?
17:27.04fugitivohardwire: what do you mean via sip to an iax provider?
17:27.06NuggetI don't know, it's your server.
17:27.12hardwiresorry
17:27.13generalhanhaha
17:27.21hardwirevia a sip phone.. to asterisk to iax to the provider
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17:27.46hardwirewe have 30 snom 360s connected to a * box and this behaviour is hapening.. also one T1 coming into the same box
17:27.47Hmmhesayswhoops missed that one
17:28.00KattySedorox: if i wanted a hug from you, i would have asked.
17:28.02hardwireits like the zap channels are mixy moshing.. even when I don't want to use them
17:28.05blitzragebkw_: thx for the help
17:28.08Sedoroxsorry...
17:28.14KattySedorox: (=
17:28.16blitzrageeveryone send bkw_ a $1 for me :D
17:28.19KattyDarthClue: :>>
17:28.23bkw_blitzrage, np
17:28.25fugitivohardwire: check the network status
17:28.34DarthClueblitzrage: come to cluecon and we'll get right on that.
17:28.38pauldyok but you send me $2 first
17:28.38Morakaianyone know anything about the SPA3000?
17:28.40Darwin35ok I have tested this on linux and bsd and get the same issue. iax2 ->asterisk->pstn->nmbr dialed. it rings 4 times. then when it should go to voice mail i get a busy toone
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17:28.51Darwin35and it happens on both linux and fbsd
17:28.54bjohnsonMorakai: yes.  lots of good info on the wiki
17:29.00BorgonAre there any iax2 commands for asteriskwin32?
17:29.03hardwirefugitivo: actually.. I am on the IAX provider machine.. and the one handling the phones
17:29.10hardwirethe call goes through but the channel isn't bridged
17:29.14pauldyDarwin have you checked your voicemail conf
17:29.18hardwireI can answer the phone.. nobody on the line
17:29.31hardwirethis happens to 5% of our calls
17:29.36Darwin35your not understanding
17:29.42Darwin35my voicemail works fine
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17:29.50pauldyDarwin35, run asterisk with asterisk -c -dddd -vvvv
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17:30.00Grumblyhello
17:30.00JerJerwholy d's batman
17:30.00pauldywhat is happening when it does get congestion
17:30.10Morakaibjohnson: for the Spa3000?
17:30.11DarthCluehow have you been Katty?
17:30.13Darwin35its when I dial my iax2 phone thru asterisk  to provider - to friends nmbr
17:30.24KattyDarthClue: annoyed at microsoft and dell.
17:30.25JerJerturn on debug for your channel
17:30.35MorakaiBJOHNSON: I'm trying to figure out if I "need" a line plugged into the line port
17:30.38KattyDarthClue: and stupid people on okcupid that randomly start talking to me after i post new pictures.
17:30.41Darwin35my friends line rings 4 times then gets a busy tone when I should get his voicemail
17:30.44pauldysorry I didn't look at your flow
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17:30.56MorakaiBjohnson: since its just supposed to be using Rj45
17:30.58DarthCluehehe.  yeah, stupid people.
17:31.00pauldyin any event run asterisk -c -vvvv -dddd and see what it says when you have te problem
17:31.00gooaglehi
17:31.15gooagleanyone have any issues with talking over one another with SIP to SIP to PSTN termination?
17:31.16Cresl1nkram: made you look
17:31.25Darwin35and this happens on both linux and fbsd
17:31.27GrumblyCould someone tell me if asterisk can be used to retrieve logs from a panasonic kx-td500 pbx?
17:31.28pauldyit should give you a hint as to what is going on
17:31.57GrumblyI'm honestly just looking for a logger for my pbx but can't relaly find anything about it
17:32.12BorgonAnyone got a clue on chanoss.c line error input/output device? I get an error looping on asterisk and it doesnt allow me to do anything
17:32.14fugitivoDarwin35: is the call established?
17:32.32fugitivoGrumbly: use asterisk cdr
17:32.56Grumblyyeah, I'm building that next, but don't want to waste my time if Its not going to work...
17:33.14Grumblycdr says it'll work with some other panasonic pbx's but nothing about this one
17:33.17fugitivoyou'll never know if you don't "waste" your time
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17:33.25Grumblyoops sorry
17:33.34Grumblyeh...
17:33.56Grumblyyeah... I guess you're correct
17:34.22generalhanNugget: maybe i dont have my TFTP server set up correctly ?? what distro are you using ?
17:34.28pauldyGrumbly whats it do just dump via serial
17:34.37NuggetI don't use a distro.
17:34.39gordonjcphey there, mr Blue, we're so pleased to be with you
17:34.41NuggetI don't use linux.
17:34.41generalhanlol
17:34.44generalhani see
17:34.51Grumblythat, and be able to convert the logs into a visually apealing graph
17:34.52BorgonAnyone got a clue on chanoss.c line error input/output device? I get an error looping on asterisk and it doesnt allow me to do anything
17:34.53Nuggetand yes, maybe you do have your tftp server set up incorrectly
17:35.04fugitivogeneralhan: search the tftp logs, you'll know the problem if you look at the logs
17:35.28pauldyDarwin35, have you checked the utput of asterisk -c -vvvv -dddd yet?
17:35.42generalhanfugitivo, i dont know how to do that. can you walk me through it
17:36.09fugitivogeneralhan: i could, but it's not an asterisk related issue
17:36.20generalhanwell hell ....
17:36.29Borgongeneralhan: what do you neeD?
17:36.41generalhanBorgon: can i PM you
17:37.57Borgonyeah shoot
17:38.45JerJergeneralhan:  can you ?
17:39.29BorgonIs anyone here familiar with a input/ouput looping error when starting asterisk on chan_oss.c?
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17:40.39KattyHmmhesays: you never hugged me.
17:41.05KattyHmmhesays: that's bad customer relations!
17:41.40zipppKatty, you watch king of the hill or something :)
17:42.15Hmmhesaysgood thing you aren't a customer
17:42.21gordonjcpbag idea to hug strange cats
17:42.33generalhanls
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17:42.40gordonjcps/bag/bad/
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17:43.01gordonjcphow do you encode a hug?
17:43.05gordonjcpis there a mime type?
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17:43.18Hmmhesaysgeek.
17:43.27pussfellerwhat ports I need to forward from the router to use an IAX2 account with my asterisk server
17:43.30Nuggetheh
17:43.36Hmmhesays<chuckle>
17:43.46Hmmhesaysso opal looks pretty cool
17:44.04trimi`hello does any know how can i configure my asterisk to place SIP phone calls (ONLY OUTGOING ) but my machine its befind NAT and my machine has dynamic IP
17:44.11Hmmhesaysyou obviously have no sense of humor Grumbly
17:44.14Hmmhesays:D
17:44.16zippppussfeller, is you asterisk server registering or is something registering with it?
17:44.21[TK]D-FenderAnyone here have a functioning XML page for a Polycom Microbrowser by any chance?
17:44.27Grumbly:)
17:44.44HmmhesaysLOL
17:44.50trimi`hello does any know how can i configure my asterisk to place SIP phone calls (ONLY OUTGOING ) but my machine its befind NAT and my machine has dynamic IP
17:44.50Hmmhesaystaint bad
17:44.57pussfellerzippp: i assume I am registering, its my nufone did and ld
17:45.13Hmmhesaystrimi' if whatever you are calling takes care of the nat translation
17:45.14zippppussfeller, you need to open _no_ ports
17:45.16bjohnsontrimi`: start by reading the wiki
17:45.24trimi`i did
17:45.26trimi`i read
17:45.27Grumblyyou are all black kettles
17:45.27zipppIAX2 uses 1 port and it will stay alive through nat just fine
17:45.31trimi`and i cant make it working
17:45.37Hmmhesays71C sweet geebus this laptop gets hot
17:45.41bjohnsonwhat errors do you get
17:45.52pussfellerzippp: oh yeah? thats cool, thanks
17:46.09pussfelleri guess that is what the advantage is of IAX over sip
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17:46.21zipppone of a few, unless you ask bkw_ :)
17:46.24DarthClue~seen ManxPower
17:46.30jbotmanxpower <n=eric@dsl-209-16-67-160.datasync.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 22h 18m 56s ago, saying: 'ride is here!'.
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17:47.26ginventAnyone know how I find out what is doing this: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
17:47.32ginventI lsof, but how do I look only at 80.
17:47.51DarthClueginvent: just use nmap
17:47.58zipppginvent, netstat -anp|grep 80
17:47.59pussfellertry netstat -autvnp
17:48.37ginventAh... apache-perl is listening.
17:49.20Darwin35ok found it and they are fixing it
17:49.23zippp`init 0` should fix it ;)
17:49.26Darwin35its was teliax
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17:51.45tuxinator_linuxMSpanish 'Jerry Springer' shows are funny
17:53.07pauldyDarwin35, what was the problem? provider issue
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17:56.31bjohnsontuxinator_linuxM: english ones too
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17:57.54tuxinator_linuxMbjohnson: Moved on to "the price is right".  "please help control the pet population, have your pet spade or neutered"
17:58.23pawallsHey.. who works on chan_sip?
17:58.29pawallsI have an interesting problem.
17:58.53pawallsthe sip_invite_param structure is reset when a SIP peer requests authentication.
17:59.02tuxinator_linuxMpawalls: bugs.digium.com?
17:59.20pawallsI want to talk to someone to make sure it's intended.
17:59.24pawallsBasically this happens:
17:59.31hugo-v6my male dog keeps a dog with 2 tails :>
17:59.36pawallsINVITE <sip: .......>;options
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18:00.07pawallsThen the phone sends back a "401 Unauthorized" then when Asterisk builds the next INVITE (including auth) it leaves out the ";options" portion.
18:00.14*** join/#asterisk Harlock (n=himeko@S01060040ca128fc3.ed.shawcable.net)
18:00.14pawallsHowever.. it seems to keep the ack
18:00.19pawallsKeep it in the ACK rather.
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18:00.31tuxinator_linuxMhugo-v6: Some guys need to be neutered.
18:00.44fugitivothe ability for communication of my dog is more complex than some humans
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18:03.08hugo-v6tuxinator_linuxM: well, but not mine :) its purebred, good at working on the dog place and is a beatuy that makes rottweiler girls horny.
18:03.29hugo-v6(like hell if i may add)
18:03.36tuxinator_linuxMhugo-v6: ;-)
18:04.21hugo-v6:p
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18:05.37tuxinator_linuxMback to work for me
18:06.19hugo-v6l8r pals
18:06.32BrianR___all these fancy LCD's on the sip phones, and no way to use 'em like on ADSI...
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18:07.48twisted[work]drumkilla!
18:08.23drumkilla_twisted[work]: !!!
18:08.42twisted[work]what's up
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18:08.59drumkilla_school ....
18:09.15drumkilla_just killing some time in the library - then I have a meeting with a Computer Science professor in an hour
18:09.30drumkilla_he's doing some VoIP research, so he wants to get me involved
18:09.41bkw_SIP ROCKS
18:09.44bkw_IAX2 SUCKS
18:09.51bkw_audio quality wise that is
18:09.55bkw_not in concept
18:10.05NetgeeksI'm starting to agree with you bkw
18:10.13Netgeeksbut for alot more than audio quality
18:10.44opus_hey guys whats this new 'setting a label' function in asterisk 1.2?
18:10.55tzangerbkw_: uh
18:11.02generalhancan anyone help me get my tftp server up and running ? i know its not really an asterisk question but it has to do with getting my asterisk box up and running ! lol
18:11.07opus_like, exten => s,n(checkpoint),macro(checkaccount) that Olle describes
18:11.07tzangerhow in the blue fuck is SIP/IAX2 any different in terms of audio *quality* ?
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18:11.23bkw_because iax2 has issues
18:11.30tzangerbkw_: ... such as
18:11.30bkw_you can have 10-30 second audio drop outs
18:11.34bkw_with IAX2
18:11.37bkw_because it uses a single port
18:11.40bkw_we have been over this before
18:11.45tzangerit has absolutely nothing to do with a single port
18:12.01bkw_actually it has something to do with the implementation in asterisk
18:12.08tzangerbkw_: I could agree with that :-)
18:12.20bkw_it still has limits on how far it can scale
18:12.56bkw_but the implementation needs to be fixed ASAP
18:13.00fugitivois that an asterisk issue or protocol?
18:13.09bkw_the protocol is fine
18:13.13bkw_its how its implemented in asterisk
18:13.21bkw_a single thread for all calls
18:13.39Kattyzippp: no
18:13.41KattyHmmhesays: thanks.
18:15.36BrianR___tzanger: Getting closer to my asterisk / norstar rollout
18:15.42BrianR___tzanger: about 15 days and counting...
18:15.43opus_whats a cheap 24port QoS fast ethernet switch?
18:15.45JerJeranyone heard from ManxPower lately?
18:15.48tzangerBrianR___: nice
18:16.14BrianR___tzanger: Would still like the ability to display ephemeral text on the screens of my SIP phones, but I think we can roll out without that.
18:16.20tuxinator_linuxM~seen ManxPower
18:16.26jbotmanxpower <n=eric@dsl-209-16-67-160.datasync.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 22h 48m 52s ago, saying: 'ride is here!'.
18:16.38BrianR___called party identification would be nice too, ie if 301 has their phone forwarded to 302 it shows on a caller's display. But we can live without that also for now.
18:16.48fugitivoJerJer: i did before katrina...
18:16.59JerJeryeah i would like to know about after
18:17.04mcnjust put a Digium TDM01B card in a machine, but it doesn't seem to be recognised at all
18:17.09mcnany ideas anybody?
18:17.41tzangerI didn't think he was around there
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18:18.03JerJerhe moved to New Orleans not all that long ago
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18:18.23tzangerJerJer: I'm sure he's evacuated then
18:18.24Borgonis the chan_oss module required to run asterisk properly? I am getting a input/output error
18:18.29fugitivoanyone using SoundPoint phones?
18:18.38doolphwhat's the difference between sipura 2000 and 2002
18:19.10tuxinator_linuxMdoolph: 2
18:19.28fugitivoBorgon: not really, put noload => chan_oss.so in your modules.conf
18:19.40opus_is sqlite a good alternative to a RDBMS? does it really work well with asterisk? (I've had a lot of bugs/issues with unixODBC and asterisk)
18:19.56doolph2 what
18:20.27Delvar~ping
18:20.29jbotpong
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18:20.37tuxinator_linuxMdoolph: I was just being a smart ass
18:20.51Borgonfugitivo: ok, with the oss module missing would that interfer with performance using iax and a softphone?
18:21.16sivanacan the accountcode parameter be set in the zapata.conf?
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18:26.38UmaroHey guys, any experts on 1.2.0-beta1 here?
18:26.51Umarotrying to figure out how the AMI command "Variable:" changed
18:26.59puzzledREADME.variables
18:27.03JerJernope this channel is only for the discussion of the ascii character *
18:27.30fugitivo_lol
18:27.52opus_Umaro did you see Olly's slide presentation
18:28.09Umaroopus_: no.. where is it?
18:28.10opus_i can't figure it out either. all my old stuff still works
18:28.33Umaroopus_: you mean in terms of the AMI Variable: thing?
18:28.52opus_http://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/img0.shtml
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18:29.10[hC]Hey guys..
18:29.30[hC]Once on the SIP image my cisco 7940/60's dont seem to request dialplan.xml anymore.. Anyone else experience that?
18:31.01opus_http://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/img36.shtml
18:31.16opus_"Serveral changes on the way Authorization class in every packet" what ever that means
18:31.43hardwireMeny?
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18:32.03bowmanheya. how can I run the demo on a freshly setup asterisk?
18:32.15opus_I don't understand that, and I don't understand how in extensions, priorities can have labels inside of ('s and )'s
18:32.15crash3mtheres a demo?
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18:32.24hardwirehttp://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/img39.shtml
18:32.31hardwiremany cell phones support ogg/vorbis?
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18:32.35hardwirehow does that relate to asterisk?
18:32.42opus_bowman - cd /usr/src/asterisk && make install && make configs && make samples
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18:32.53opus_then run /etc/init.d/asterisk start, and then dial extension 500
18:32.58bowmanI'd like to use my headset and the ALSA module, I would need a softphone in addition, right?
18:33.43doolphuh
18:33.59pawallsOkay I fixed the problem with sip invites.
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18:34.13florzany hint where struct zt_span.desc is visible to the user or what it's good for otherwise`
18:34.16florz?
18:34.26axscodehello just want to ask.. whats the smallest compression for VoIP? and the most common used??
18:34.46pawallsHmm...
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18:35.01crash3msmallest as in the least compressed, or results int he least bandwidth?
18:35.01pawallsSo markster and kpfleming are pretty much the only people that work on chan_sip?
18:35.15opus_axscode i think g729 is something like 8-15kbps ? and is most commonly used in terms of hardware
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18:35.37drewskiehey everyone, ive been reading in the forums about Vonage and Asterix and had a quick Q.... - If i setup an Asterix PBX @ Work, and have Vonage at home, will I be able to transfer calls from work to home?
18:35.48JerJerLPC-10 baby!
18:35.48drumkilla_pawalls: no ...
18:36.12drewskietelephone service @ work =/ VOIP
18:36.59pawallsdrumkilla, They seem to be doing majority of commits.
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18:37.16drewskieall i really want to do is work from home, and have them be able to transfer calls from the work office to my house
18:37.24pawallsdrumkilla, I am about to fix a pretty silly problem in chan_sip, but I'd like to know if my fix makes sense.
18:37.26drewskieso im having to do this all on my own
18:37.29pawallsdrumkilla, Before I spend the time on it.
18:37.48drumkilla_pawalls: well, it is true that only a small group does commits
18:37.56drumkilla_but many people contribute
18:38.14drumkilla_oej, for example, is a major contributor to chan_sip
18:38.36pawallsBasically when asterisk receives a 401 Unauthorized response to an INVITE, it calls "do_proxy_auth" which does not look for channel variables and set up the options structure (it's essentially empty)
18:38.40oejpawalls: What do you want to fix?
18:39.26pawallsI propose moving this out of sip_call and into a separate function (maybe sip_channel_options or something) and call it from sip_call and from do_proxy_auth
18:39.34drewskiehey everyone, ive done my research on Asterisk and Vonage but I had one quick Q....all i really want to do is be able to transfer calls from work (where the asterisk pbx will live) to my house (where my vonage account will be), is this possible?
18:39.36pawallsWhat happens is this (causing Snom intercom not to work):
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18:39.48pawalls===>     INVITE <sip:blah blah>;intercom=true
18:39.53zipppdrewskie, why don't you just go directly from home to work over iax2 or sip
18:39.54pawalls<===      401 Unauthorized
18:39.59zipppno need to pay vonage
18:40.01pawalls===>     ACK
18:40.10drewskiezippp: didnt know i could do that
18:40.12pawalls===>      INVITE <sip:blah blah>
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18:40.22drewskiezippp: just like setting another extension?
18:40.23Borgonwhich port does asterisk work under.. 4569?
18:40.36pawallsoej, So as you can see, some data is lost. Would be nice if it would just retransmit the same original packet with added "Authentication" headers.
18:40.42zipppdrewskie, anyone in here can call anyone else over sip or iax2 without a number, just call host.com/ext
18:40.46fugitivoBorgon: for what?
18:40.47Hmmhesaysif your vonage residential box will accept a call from an unregistered source
18:40.54pawallsoej, But for now, this would be a good enough solution as it would require some significant reworking to do what I said.
18:41.10blitzmerenewbie here, does anyone know how to get the webmin module to run with webmin
18:41.10drewskiezippp: im a little new to VOIP, just trying to keep my head above water and be able to work from home =]
18:41.14oejpawalls: Which options?
18:41.17Hmmhesaysotherwise you can register asterisk with vonage at your business and have an extension at home
18:41.24drewskiei know how skype works, so it would be the same deal?
18:41.30drewskiebut with a real phone =]
18:41.31Borgonfugitivo: am running asterisk locally... I got a firewall on my pc so i need to open the tcp/udp port
18:41.33pawallsoej, For example.. checking asterisk chan vars such as VXML_URL
18:41.47fugitivoBorgon: it depends, what do you want to use, sip, iax2?
18:41.55pawallsoej, Mind if I speak with you for a moment in query?
18:41.58oejpawalls: Let me take a look at it
18:42.05oejpawalls: You're welcome
18:42.14docelm0Does anyone know if asterisk can do a standalone reinvite of a sip packet to a different media gateway?
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18:42.40afrosheenhello hello
18:42.55Borgonfugitivo: am using iax2
18:43.51blitzmereanyone
18:44.33bowmandamn. is soundcore alsa or oss?
18:45.05florzbowman: both IIRC
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18:45.48blitzmerecan anyone help me
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18:46.46distortioanyone alive in here that uses h323?
18:47.05*** part/#asterisk drumkilla_ (n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla)
18:47.12Umarocan anyone tell me why astman_get_variables was removed from manager.c in 1.2.0-beta1?
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18:47.33Rowtercould I have a tdm04b on a PCIX?
18:47.54bowmanI obviously have no chance at all to get anything running over ALSA or OSS, anyone ever tried that?
18:47.56Umaro1.2.0-beta1's manager.c uses astman_get_header instead, but that won't work properly for the Variable arg of originate
18:48.04blitzmerei could really use the help, I would like to get teh webmin module to work. has anyone here tried it
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18:48.49florzblitzmere: If you ask twice a second, someone will materialize who will be able to help you.
18:48.52Rowterhttp://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7505/X5DAE.cfm for 3 tdm04b ?
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18:49.52blitzmeresorry florz
18:50.20BorgonWhat udp/tcp ports need to be open for iax2?
18:50.49*** part/#asterisk sac|h0p (n=h0p@d207-81-230-81.bchsia.telus.net)
18:51.11[hC]4569 UDP i believe
18:51.20[hC]i might have that port number wrong, im going from memory
18:51.20afrosheenhc is correct
18:51.31afrosheenit's in the * wiki
18:51.31wwalkerblitzmere URL to the module?  I've got a webmin setup and could try it (while I wait for florz to answer my debug logging question :)
18:51.43[hC]Once on the SIP image my cisco 7940/60's dont seem to request dialplan.xml anymore.. Anyone else experience that?
18:51.45wwalkerIn an app, can I "set the debug level for that app only, not for core (hard coded in the app*.c file is fine as long as it doesn't affect core)"?
18:51.59bowmanany other softphones working with asterisk apart from kphone and gnophone?
18:52.09blitzmerewwalker http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/webmin/
18:52.33blitzmerebowman I heared xten works
18:53.43Rav1974wwalker: check the voip-info.com website
18:54.26zipppbowman, if you use linux I would recommend kiax
18:54.28zipppreally nice
18:54.45tzangerkiax?
18:54.47afrosheenbowman: the xten is probably the best on windows, linux is iffy
18:54.51Umarohmm.. this is very odd
18:55.02zipppkaix, uses stevek iaxclient
18:55.23afrosheenhope it's a little better developed than kphone
18:55.27zipppmuch better
18:55.31zipppkphone sucks
18:55.35zipppkiax is iax2 only
18:55.38zipppworks great for me
18:55.39afrosheenI think the author of kphone just gave up 2 years ago
18:55.47tzangerholy fuck
18:55.48zipppyea, kinda like gnophone ;)
18:55.54tzangera softphone that isn't stupidly skinned
18:55.58zipppyep
18:56.06zipppbeen living under a stone?
18:56.09zipppj/k
18:56.30bowmanyeah, linux... kiax? googling :)
18:56.37afrosheendoes * support shared call appearances, i.e. 2 phones sharing one extension number?
18:56.38fugitivoemerge kiax
18:56.45zipppafrosheen, yes
18:56.51afrosheenhow would one go about that
18:57.04afrosheenwithout grouping
18:57.09zipppafrosheen, well, just Dial(IAX2/phone1&IAX2/phone2
18:57.15afrosheenk
18:57.38distortiodoes the asterisk h323 channel (nufone) work/translate h323 -> sip or sip -> h323? I get a call to ring h323 -> sip and as soon as it connects it drops to "no path to translate".
18:58.08JerJermake a path to translate then
18:58.44afrosheenhaha
18:58.50distortiowell, checking first if it is actually works before i dive in :)
18:58.57jarrodhey.. anyone ran into problems with MGCP not hanging up properly?
18:59.25JerJerthen just use ulaw or alaw
18:59.41distortionot sure if that is a codec mismatch problem, cause i have both ends setup ulaw
19:00.08wwalkerblitzmere http://pastebin.ca/21625
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19:00.39axscodecan i use.. v29 fax modem for asterisk? so that it can call a pstn fone?
19:01.12wwalkerRav1974 and search for what?  debug returns too many hits.  I need to specifically adjust the debug for a given app, but not for other apps or the core?
19:02.14distortiook, i was wrong- codecs werent matched to ulaw.
19:02.19distortiobleh
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19:04.54axscode~FXO
19:04.55jbotforeign exchange office - type of port you need to connect a POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line from your telco to a pbx http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=fxsvfxo
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19:05.18axscode~pbx
19:05.19jboti guess pbx is a Private Branch eXchange
19:05.32JerJer~pbx
19:05.33jbot[pbx] a Private Branch eXchange
19:06.03axscodewhat is a PBX exactly? a device?
19:06.11Rowteranyone has set a tdm card on a pci-x it works?
19:06.13axscodeor ASTERISK is the PBX?
19:06.26crich1999axscode,  Asterisk is A PBX
19:06.26*** join/#asterisk Master-V (n=ask@219.95.202.31)
19:06.45Master-Vdear everyone, i am asterisk beginner
19:06.46afrosheena PBX used to be a gigantic expensive box
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19:07.06axscode.o so i can use a v29 modem to link my POTS to my ASTERISK?
19:07.16crich1999axscode, PBXs are Telephone and Trunk managing devices (and as afrosheen said quite expensive)
19:07.40Master-Vcan i have example of config file, which can forward FWD into my SIP?
19:07.57*** part/#asterisk jose (n=jose@pcp01649886pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net)
19:08.11afrosheenMaster-V: what are you trying to accomplish, getting your sip extension registered with FWD or what
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19:09.40Master-Vcan i make whatever call to my FWD, it will forward to my local extenstion 3000 in my asterisk
19:10.01crich1999axscode, yes you can do so, but it depends on your modems capabilities
19:10.02fugitivoMaster-V: are you using sip or iax2 for fwd?
19:10.20Master-Vi already signup with FWD
19:10.21naturalblueanyone know any tweaks for lowering echo/delay on voip call to pstn my setup is running on wireless broadband
19:10.32Master-Vnow i running asterisk in freebsd
19:10.48fugitivoMaster-V: iax2 or sip?
19:10.49naturalbluealso im using ilbc to lower bandwidth use
19:10.52Master-Vsip
19:10.56axscodeok..  i dont know whats my modem thouhg it says... Soft v.29 modem
19:11.03afrosheennaturalblue: are you getting near-end echo or ?
19:11.22bowmankiax works fine. now I only need a working headset where the mic isn't broken :)
19:11.33blitzmereok here is another question. is there a doc for the configureation of asterisk
19:11.35fugitivoMaster-V: show me your sip.conf registration line
19:11.47afrosheen<PROTECTED>
19:11.54Master-Vshow u in private window?
19:11.59naturalbluei say someting then about a 1/2 sec later i hear it on the far end and thats when the receiver hears it
19:12.08naturalbluethem to me seems to be fine
19:12.19fugitivoMaster-V: if it's only one line it's ok here
19:12.24afrosheennaturalblue: so you're getting echo in your ear but your caller doesn't hear it right?
19:12.46naturalblueno the other caller doesnt hear the echo
19:12.58Master-Vfugi: register => 694194:mypass@fwd.pulver.com/3000
19:13.01naturalbluebut when i hear the echo its at that moment they hear my voice
19:13.03fugitivonaturalblue: what hardware?
19:13.07*** part/#asterisk ctooley (n=ctooley@rrcs-24-227-212-181.sw.biz.rr.com)
19:13.07naturalblueso a 1/2 delaye
19:13.08Master-Vfugi: is it correct?
19:13.12afrosheennaturalblue: you're getting near-end echo then, there are a number of reasons for it and different ways to fight it
19:13.36afrosheenif it's wireless the knee-jerk response would be latency issues but it may be alot more
19:13.39naturalbluefugitivo: you mean my asterisk box? or phones? or both?
19:14.00naturalbluestupid wireless
19:14.20fugitivonaturalblue: your fxo
19:14.47naturalblueciscvo ata 186 with a dect phone attahced to it
19:14.48Master-Vfugu: :(
19:15.06fugitivoMaster-V: the line is correct, what do you need to do?
19:15.13axscodejust want to ask.. if someone dial to a POST which is connected to my ASTERISK... what happend? does asterisk route the call to anyone you like to recieve the outside call?
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19:15.47naturalblueshould do, unless you have it set to go to a ring group or something like that
19:15.56Master-Vfugi: my 3000 din ring, when anyone call to 694194@fwd.pulver.com
19:16.09fugitivoMaster-V: yes
19:16.10axscodeo oh.. so i can recieve calls from the outside...
19:16.15axscodethats nice..
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19:16.55Master-Vfugi: i want 3000 ring, when someone call 694194@fwd.pulver.com
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19:18.41[hC]how can you handle which g726 codec asterisk will use for communication? (ie the 16/24/32 modes)
19:18.56axscodelast question.. im using a celeron 2.2ghz + 512 DDR. how many calls can it support simultanously example using xlite softfone..
19:19.11fugitivoaxscode: a lot
19:19.19axscodefugitivo: how many is a lot?
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19:19.47axscodeim having it on a local area network for example...
19:20.04axscodeso bandwidth is 100MBPS...
19:20.11fugitivoaxscode: hard to say, what codec, number of simultaneous calls...
19:20.17spackleaxscode: 379
19:20.50axscodeok....... 379 ... thats morethan 200.. thats nice..
19:21.10fugitivospackle: where did you get that number?
19:21.11spackleaxscode: the real answer is "it depends"
19:21.16Trionnisanyone here familiar with changing the voice festival uses?
19:21.28fugitivoTrionnis: www.cepstral.com
19:21.33spackleaxscode: everybody wants a qualitative number and there isn't one
19:21.33TrionnisI have one of the voice packs from their site, but there's no clear info about it
19:21.40TrionnisI'm not using cepstral
19:21.41Trionnis:)
19:21.47axscodefugitivo:ok i dont know what really is the xlite codec...
19:21.49Master-Vfugi: i am not able to forward call from 694194@fwd.pulver.com to local 3000, is there any working example sip.conf & extensions.conf ?
19:21.57fugitivoTrionnis: use it, it's good :)
19:22.03Trionnisit's also expensive
19:22.04Trionnis;)
19:22.14fugitivoTrionnis: it's only $30
19:22.22Trionnisnot for commercial multichannel
19:22.27fugitivooops :)
19:22.30axscodefugitivo: but for example its using the default xlite codec. with 2.2ghz + 512mb of memory.. how many calls can it drop simultanously..
19:22.31Trionnis;)
19:22.46Master-Vfugi: =(
19:22.51spackle379
19:22.59fugitivoaxscode: it's hard to say a number
19:23.07spackleaxscode: the real answer is "it depends"
19:23.11fugitivoaxscode: check the wiki for more info about that
19:23.11TrionnisI've got cmu_us_slt_arctic
19:23.24Trionnisjust no clear documentation on how to get asterisk to use it :-/
19:23.34Trionnisgoogle's not of much help either :(
19:23.34fugitivoMaster-V: ok
19:23.39spackleaxscode: if you are running gentoo +3
19:24.02Trionnisaxscode: it will handle 12,341.3
19:24.19Trionnisthe .3 is kinda choppy tho
19:24.25spackleTrionnis: 379 +3 for Gentoo
19:24.29TrionnisI know that
19:24.32TrionnisI'm being a smartass
19:24.34Trionnis;)
19:24.44spackleditto.
19:24.56Trionnishe's been told twice that there's no definete number, and doesn't seem to get it ;)
19:24.58Master-Vfugi: thanks alot anyway, i probably need to find out more info on that :)
19:25.05axscodewhats gentoo?
19:25.10Trionnis*ahem*
19:25.16Trionnis...
19:25.17spackleoh dear.
19:25.19Trionnisyup
19:25.21fugitivowell
19:25.25axscodeim planning to use DEBIAN.. for this..
19:25.36fugitivoaxscode: it's the distro
19:25.38axscodethough i tried running asterisk on FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
19:25.48Trionniswhy not FEDORA or SUSE
19:25.53Trionnismaybe MEPIS
19:25.59Trionnis*chuckles*
19:26.06axscodewhat linux distro is the most compatible for asterisk..
19:26.12spacklewhy sop there?  Knoppix
19:26.16Trionnisack!
19:26.21Trionnishahaha
19:26.28Kattyhmm?
19:26.29Kattyoh
19:26.29Trionnisyou spelled it wrong!
19:26.32Kattysilly hilight
19:26.33Trionnisit's KNOPPIX
19:26.35Trionnis;)
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19:27.02Netgeeksall the linux dists have thier own personality.  I don't think one is any more suited to asterisk than another
19:27.13fugitivoi agree
19:27.45axscodeok lets do this either.. what linux distro is more secure and lots of hardware support..
19:27.52Trionnis...
19:27.59spackleKNOPPIX
19:28.03Trionnislol
19:28.12Netgeeksum, well you used the word secure, so the answer to your question is none
19:28.20Nivexaxscode: You must search for the answer within.
19:28.22Nivex:)
19:28.22spackleOpenBSD
19:28.33Trionnisno! he should use windows 2003!!
19:28.34fugitivoaxscode: just use the one it's more comfortable for you
19:28.35axscodehehe yupz.. OpenBSD i like
19:28.35axscodelolz
19:28.37Trionnis*hides*
19:28.47NetgeeksI personally use (yeah shoot me) Fedora Core (version 4 now)
19:28.54Trionnisew
19:28.57fugitivoaxscode: openbsd is great, but no zaptel support :(
19:28.59axscodelol
19:29.11axscodeyupz fugitivo... no zaptel.. no conference..
19:29.12axscodelolz
19:29.13afrosheencentos seems to be great so far
19:29.18lathos42Just got done with a very positive meeting with our company president about *
19:29.28Trionniscentos is ok, if not a bit heavy
19:29.31spackleI use Fedora 3 and Redhat 9.  Nothing too progressive.
19:29.39axscodei just hated RH and FEdora a lot..... though slack and debian maybe!?
19:29.52fugitivospackle: redhat 9?
19:30.02spacklelathos42: well?  Do you get to pull the trigger?
19:30.04fugitivospackle: that's the worst redhat i ever tried
19:30.07afrosheenI don't like redhat OR fedora but I've enjoyed centos over the last few months
19:30.09NetgeeksI hate *
19:30.14fugitivono, wait, redhat 8 was the worst
19:30.20Netgeeks;(
19:30.43afrosheenlathos42: how big of a system do you want to create
19:30.50spacklefugitivo, it's whatever you get used to.  I'm becoming more debian, and I hope to move up to slackware ;-)
19:30.51lathos42spackle: Well, we're definitely getting rid of the of our old phonesystem
19:31.03lathos42afrosheen:  We've got about 70 phones, single PRI
19:31.16fugitivospackle: i started with slack in 1996, moved to redhat, fedora, now i'm a gentoo guy
19:31.19spacklelathos42, that's about our size.
19:31.20afrosheenlathos42: are you keeping the old phones or getting sip phones
19:31.26fugitivospackle: oh, i forgot debian
19:31.51spacklefugitivo: does your car have big spoilers on it?
19:31.56lathos42afrosheen:  Well, our old phones are Avaya Merlin MLX phones, so we have to replace our phones..  95% certain we're going with the Polycom IP 501
19:31.57spackle;-)
19:32.05fugitivospackle: lol, that webpage is funny
19:32.48spacklefugitivo: is there a gentoo-based distro that doesn't cause physical pain to install?
19:33.07afrosheenherointoo
19:33.12Trionnishaha
19:33.15fugitivospackle: gentoo is easy to install
19:33.22fugitivospackle: just follow the steps
19:33.32afrosheenlathos42: you'll love them, polycoms are champions
19:33.32spacklelather rinse repeat
19:33.41spackleagreed, polycoms rock.
19:33.55afrosheenif only I could get them to play .wav ring tones, oh well
19:34.11spacklelathos42, I'm still testing Asterisk, not ready to throw out the Nortel MICS yet.
19:34.26zipppI wan't my phone to do a backflip when it rings
19:34.44Trionnisthat would be interesting
19:34.45afrosheenspackle: what hardware will your server be using
19:34.48Trionnisand probably doable
19:34.58Trionnisrelay, spring, solenoid
19:35.00Trionnishm
19:35.06Trionnis*rushes to patent office*
19:35.24zipppprobably already 50 patents for it
19:35.32Trionnisyeah, you're prolly right
19:35.41zippprather, today people are patenting the spring, so you can't do it
19:35.44Trionniswouldn't matter tho
19:35.48Trionnisthey'd still issue it
19:35.50Trionnisheh
19:35.59spackleafrosheen: right now I have a compaq dl380 dual 1.14 with 1GB.  I'll probably have two similar machines before it goes live.  Since it doesn't cost $100000 I want tome redundancy.
19:36.07spacklesome redundancy
19:36.25pawallsHey.. is Kevin "kpfleming@digium.com" ? And also is Mark "markster@digium.com" ?
19:36.48Trionnisspammer!!! hang him!
19:37.00pawalls?
19:37.05pawallsI need to know for a disclaimer question.
19:37.05TrionnisI dunno, just bein' a clown
19:37.10Trionnis:)
19:37.13spacklejust back away from the e-mail addresses son!
19:37.27spackleuh huh.
19:37.29afrosheenspackle: that should be ok..sometimes people build off-the-shelf servers and they think asterisk sucks because the hardware isn't suitable
19:37.33Trionnisok, so... back to quasi-seriousness
19:37.40Trionnisfestival, new voice
19:37.42Trionnisanyone?
19:37.45Trionnis:)
19:38.05spackleafrosheen: It's pretty solid.  I'm having a few issues with the digium cards, but that seems to be par for the course.
19:38.11TrionnisI'll gladly RTFM if someone can point me *to* a manual to read
19:38.20fugitivo~docs
19:38.22jboti heard docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk
19:38.22afrosheenspackle: yeah unfortuately digium hasn't made a good driver yet
19:38.24Trionnis...
19:38.26pawallsTrionnis, You talking about the mbrola voices?
19:38.29Trionnisno
19:38.49Trionnislemme find the link
19:38.52spackleTrionnis: have you tried Cepstral?  much nicer.
19:38.56Trionnis...
19:39.07afrosheencepstral is cool
19:39.09TrionnisI'm not using cepstral on this system
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19:39.27Trionniscan't afford the licenses that would be needed
19:40.46Trionnishere it is
19:40.47Trionnishttp://www.festvox.org/cmu_arctic/dbs_slt.html
19:40.50Ariel_argh ok in asterisk and linux how do we or were do we edit the sending server name in sendmail?
19:41.18zipppAriel_, for vm?
19:41.33zipppvoicemail.conf\
19:41.36Ariel_zippp, no for actually faxes that are emailed
19:41.45fugitivoAriel_: /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf ?
19:42.09zipppm4 or have your brain implode
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19:43.00Kattyif you had entire evening to yourself...what would you do?
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19:43.25fugitivochat in #asterisk about trains and pigs
19:43.35Trionnisyou don't wanna know
19:43.36spacklelol
19:43.46Ariel_fugitivo, it's actually in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
19:43.48afrosheenI like trains
19:43.53Ariel_my brain is not working.
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19:43.57TrionnisI'm telling you... you don't want to know...
19:44.01fugitivoAriel_: well, depends the distribution
19:44.02KattyHmmhesays: i have nothing to do tonight. what should i do?
19:44.04spackleTrionnis could tell you but he'd have to kill you.
19:44.07Ariel_fugitivo, thanks
19:44.10Trionnisha
19:44.11Trionnis:)
19:44.12fugitivonp
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19:44.36Trionnislet's just say it involves rubber gloves, a tube of KY, and a chicken
19:44.39spackleKatty: won't you be on the phone to Dell?
19:44.41[hC]So what would everyone recommend for a codec that is low bandwidth and decent voice quality, sounds okay with MoH and can survive latency spikes decently? right now im using g729 and it works pretty well but im looking to maybe gain some audio quality. im thinking g726 maybe
19:44.46Kattyspackle: no
19:45.04Kattyspackle: and don't talk to me about dell. i've had all the dell i can handle for one day.
19:45.10spacklehC: and afforable?
19:45.14Trionnisdell is the anti-christ
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19:45.45afrosheenhc: 729 is probably the best quality for the bandwidth
19:45.49roche~FXS
19:45.53jbotsomebody said fxs was foreign exchange system - or the type of port you need to connect a analog device (phone, fax machine) to a pbx
19:45.55[hC]spackle: i dont mind paying for licenses if its worth it
19:46.00spackleDell, isn't the anti-christ, but it is where he will get his computers.
19:46.06Trionnislol
19:46.08Trionnistouche'
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19:46.32spacklehC: g729 or speex or maybe gsm.
19:46.36[hC]afrosheen: i dont mind sacrificing a little bandwidth if it means substantial audio quality improvement
19:46.58afrosheenhc: you probably need to tweak your codec then, g729 is nearly perfect AFAIK
19:47.01[hC]the only problem with g729 i have is that audio quality sounds fairly tinny
19:47.15spackleIt is easiest to stick with g711
19:47.21afrosheenhc: also what kind of phones are you using
19:47.50[hC]I'm using cisco 7960's but i do ulaw from them to *. That * box links with another, and im trying to decide on the codec to use between the two * boxes
19:47.55[hC]Right now its 729
19:48.15[hC]but like i said, i sometimes hear complaints about it sounding a little too shallow, for audio quality
19:48.20spacklehmmm, gsm.
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19:48.34afrosheengsm..nooooo
19:48.40spackleheh.
19:48.49[hC]so i was debating wether or not to try something else that can be relative easy on bandwidth, and be able to sustain the occasional latency spike like 729 can
19:48.51afrosheenget more bandwidth and use ulaw, done.
19:48.58[hC]not an option :)
19:49.05[hC]Customer sites usually have DSL
19:49.08afrosheenouch
19:49.20afrosheenso they have no upstream to begin with
19:49.27[hC]usually 768k
19:49.31[hC]dedicated to voip
19:49.34afrosheenwhich is nearly nothing
19:49.38[hC]i insist they get a dedicated line for voice traffic
19:49.42spackleI'd say you are stuck with g729
19:49.46afrosheenme too
19:49.58[hC]nod..
19:50.04afrosheeng729 handles trunking very gracefully so it saves alot more bandwidth overall than other codecs
19:50.15[hC]i think on that line i have calculated using g729 can facilitate about 9 sustained calls
19:50.16spacklehC: you might want to check out www.netequalizer.com
19:50.31generalhananyone in here using a Cisco 7960 phone with asterisk ???????????/
19:50.34spacklehC: not affiliated, just a customer.
19:50.50[hC]spackle: what's that? If its some sort of link aggregator, ive already got a bsd firewall that will do that
19:51.00[hC]and QoS
19:51.31brad_msswhmm, I've got a SIP phone (UTStarcom F1000) which works great for blind transfers, but if I set it to attended transfers, it connects to the third party, lets you talk, then when you try to complete the transfer, it tries to establish yet another connection to the third party to transfer to, so the caller ends up getting transferred to voicemail since the caller is already on the line
19:51.32afrosheengeneralhan: yes, and be gentle to your ? key.
19:51.42spacklethen nevermind.
19:52.00brad_msswrather, the thrid party is already on the line ... shouldn't it just complete the transfer ?
19:52.16generalhanafrosheen: sorry, im losing my mind trying to configure this stuff ! lol
19:52.21[hC]Since we have a line dedicated to voice, and it can sustain 9 calls, i usually limit it so that the box can only place 9 outbound calls at a time
19:52.22generalhancan you help me out a bit
19:52.33afrosheengeneralhan: have you checked the wiki, because personally I haven't used any ciscos
19:52.44[hC]if they want more, i buy another dsl line, and tell the router to fail over to the second dsl line after 9 calls
19:52.52generalhanyea i have, and im running into a problem at my tftp server i think
19:52.56afrosheen9 calls on dsl is incredible
19:53.00generalhanand there isnt much troubleshooting info ther
19:53.12fugitivo[hC]: just use gsm
19:53.25[hC]afrosheen: well with g729 and 768k up, the math works out to about 12 calls. i guessed 9 to keep it safe.
19:53.39spacklehC: BSD firewall with QoS must do the trick.
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19:53.54[hC]spackle: Yep. PF and ALTq are my friends.
19:54.05fugitivopf is god
19:54.15fugitivoi want pf in linux
19:54.54[hC]hjmm. cisco says that average call kbps for 729 is 31
19:55.00[hC]768/31 is 24
19:55.10[hC]so 9 is a lowball guess, then.
19:55.11[hC]:)
19:56.08keefanyone got any good jitter monitoring tools?
19:56.20Trionnisyeah, but you have to actually set your cap a bit low to avoid hitting limiting in the modem itself
19:56.29Trionnis10 wouldn't be out of line
19:57.02clyrradanybody know how to play 2 sound files together in a queue using periodic-announce?
19:57.22clyrradsomething like periodic-announce =msg1|msg2
19:57.25[hC]actually. 31kbps is bidirectional. so i should be able to divide that in half to do the math on the upstream
19:57.42Trionniserm
19:57.48Trionnisnot really :)
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19:58.12Trionnisespecially when you're dealing with 20:1 or higher contention ratios
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19:58.31lathos42afrosheen:  Have you had any problem with your Polycoms losing their network?
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20:04.07spackleSo THAT'S what the red button does
20:04.55usedwhat configuration front-ends are people using? I've resorted to file editing and manual SQL updates thus far, but it's getting rediculous.
20:05.07fugitivoused: you don't need one
20:05.21usedfugitivo: ?
20:05.28fugitivofile editing is ok
20:05.58usedi'd like to be able to delegate some of this stuff to someone who can use a web or GUI interface. I'd rather not do all the work.
20:06.13Trionnisyou could always use Asterisk@Home
20:06.13fugitivook
20:06.16Trionnis*ducks*
20:06.21fugitivoused: check AMP
20:06.22usedhehe
20:06.31*** join/#asterisk Tabo (n=acura0@s142-179-67-118.bc.hsia.telus.net)
20:06.39Tabohey guys, I need help
20:06.44Tabofor Asterisk @home
20:06.48Trionnisdoh
20:06.48TaboI'm willing to pay
20:06.48Tabo=)
20:06.49fugitivolol
20:07.00Tabomsg me
20:07.01fugitivoTabo: how much?
20:07.06Taboi'm at work
20:07.08Trionnis$8 and a candy bar?
20:07.10Trionnis:D
20:07.14fugitivoTabo: i want a blonde
20:07.22usedfugitivo: AMP has some crazy assumptions in my opinion. I'd rather not have to deal with the user/permissions issues or run a different instance of apache.
20:07.25TrionnisI prefer redheads
20:07.31goatmilkfile[lap1op]: lo
20:07.35Trionnishell, gimme one of each
20:07.40fugitivoused: then file editing is ok :)
20:08.02Trionnis~agi
20:08.03jboti guess agi is the Asterisk Gateway Interface...  similar to CGI for web applications AGI lets you script call control and access databases using your favorite language.  AGI wrappers are available for Python (pyst), Perl (astperl?) and other languages
20:08.10Trionniswhoops
20:08.13Trionnis~phpagi
20:08.25Trionnishm
20:08.37Taboso anyone have AASstra voip phone?
20:08.55Tabothe problem I have is connecting it to my asterix bos
20:08.56Tabobox
20:08.57spackleTabo: was that a freudian slip?
20:09.31Trionnisjbot, phpagi is http://phpagi.sourceforge.net/
20:09.33jbotokay, Trionnis
20:10.15spackleTabo: what isn't the Aastra doing?
20:10.15Connor-Hey guys, question what advantage/dis-advantage is there to storing voicemail in a SQL DB?
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20:10.46spackleConnor: It is a bad idea, IMO
20:11.09Tabook
20:11.17Tabothe stupid phone keeps say
20:11.19Tabo"no service"
20:11.27Tabothou it has a ip of 192.168.0.156
20:11.52fugitivoTabo: do you see the registration in the asterisk console?
20:11.53ircleuserhi
20:11.56spackleTabo, is it running SIP?  Have you configured it's username and password etc?
20:11.56TaboI left the default settings on the phone (I never modified the firmware or manually edit the sip settings)
20:11.59Tabonope
20:12.04Trionnishave you checked the sip debugs, or "sip show peers" to see if it's registering
20:12.08Taboyes
20:12.09Taboi did that
20:12.12Tabodoesn't show it
20:12.22Taboi modified the sip.conf according to the manufacturers specs
20:12.22Tabo<PROTECTED>
20:12.24fugitivoyou don't see anything on asterisk console?
20:12.29Trionnisthen check the debugs, and double check the config
20:12.40spackleTabo: sounds like you haven't configured the phone yet.
20:12.51Trionnisdebugs should at least point you in the right direction
20:13.10Tabodo you have to configure it to work?
20:13.14Tabocuz  I heard
20:13.21Taboyou have to setup your asterisk as DHCP
20:13.27Tabothan have voip phones or atas under it
20:13.33Taboi thought the router setups the dhcp?
20:13.40fugitivoTabo: read my question, do you see anything on the CLI?
20:13.50Tabonope
20:13.53Taboits missing info..
20:13.57Tabonot complete
20:14.02fugitivoTabo: then setup the phone to connect to your asterisk box
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20:14.18Tabohow is that done? =)
20:14.24spackleTabo: does it have a web interface or read files off a server?
20:14.30fugitivoTabo: reading the phone manual
20:14.50afrosheenConnor: size, flexibility?
20:15.17afrosheenI think he got it right when he said aasstra
20:15.37spackleafrosheen: what about the pnealty of conversion putting it in and pulling it out of the DB?
20:15.50TaboI did
20:15.53Tabothe phone manual sucks
20:15.57Taboit only has two pages on asterisk
20:16.00fugitivodb is not a good idea...
20:16.01Taboand I followed it exactly..
20:16.41spackleTabo: which model?
20:17.01enderso whats the big gotchas if any from the 1.2.0-beta1 ?
20:17.20enderWe're looking to roll out asterisk in the next 2 months, and I would rather test on the 1.2 platform than the 1.0 platform...
20:17.35fugitivoi'll love xml configs for asterisk
20:17.35DrWho17lack of support
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20:17.50spackleender: "better the devil you know"?
20:17.52Tabo480i
20:17.55TaboI plan to buy ten of these
20:18.00netsurfercompletely OT this, just a shot in the dark here.. anyone have experience of X-cart shopping cart sw?
20:18.04Taboso gusy
20:18.06Tabohere is my script
20:18.15Tabosip.conf
20:18.15Tabo[phone1]
20:18.15Tabotype=friend
20:18.15Tabohost=dynamic
20:18.15Tabodefaultip=192.168.1.156
20:18.15Tabosecret=1234
20:18.17Tabodtmfmode=rfc2833
20:18.19Tabomailbox=1000
20:18.21Tabocontext=sip
20:18.23Tabocallerid="Phone 1" <200>
20:18.24DrWho17only OsCommerce
20:18.25Taboextensions.conf
20:18.25netsurfer~pastebin
20:18.27jboti heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/
20:18.27Taboexten => 200,1,Dial(SIP/phone1,20)
20:18.29Taboie..  extension 200
20:18.32DrWho17Tabo: don't post flood
20:18.37Taboand ip of phone is 192.168.1.156
20:18.40Tabook
20:19.07spackleTabo: but you have to tell the phone how to find the asterisk server.
20:19.15Tabohow do I do that?
20:19.40PiruchoOSXhi i am pretty much new with the asteriskpbx and i am trying to run it on osx or fedora  anyone have done this before?
20:19.43Tabopiruchosx : are you new to linux?
20:19.48TaboI used federo before its the best
20:19.54PiruchoOSXyes
20:19.55Tabobut for asterisk, u're best to download asterisk@home
20:20.01Taboit comes with CENTOS and very easy to us
20:20.02PiruchoOSXi have fedora
20:20.11Tabofedora core 4 rocks
20:20.11PiruchoOSXand i make install
20:20.26PiruchoOSXbut when i try to run it
20:20.32Tabowith fedora, I had great difficulty compiling the zaptel drivers into the kernel
20:20.34Tabofor my digium
20:20.42Tabowhere as asterisk@home make it easy to do
20:20.45jarrodanyone had an issue getting asterisk to send mgcp dlcx (hangup) to the endpoint when it detects a hangup on the remote end?
20:20.50PiruchoOSXit does not work
20:20.50spackleTabo: do you have the phone admin guide or the quickstart guide?
20:20.54Taboyes
20:20.55pauldyTabo, one thing to note is that newer versions of AAH do not work with processors lower than a i686
20:20.56Taboi have the .pdf
20:20.59Tabobut really
20:21.01Taboits useless
20:21.30PiruchoOSXi have fedora 4
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20:22.16Tabospackle
20:22.17Tabohttp://www.aastra.com/downloads/480i%20SIP%20Gen%20Admin%20Guide-E.pdf
20:22.27Tabopages 24 to 25
20:22.34spacklehave you tried pointing your browser at the phone's IP address?
20:22.57spacklethe user name is "admin" and the password is 222222
20:23.00PiruchoOSXand i am running asterisk 1.0.9
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20:24.10pardovewhat does this mean? "NOTICE[11235]: Disconnecting call 'SIP/2101-a4a0' for lack of RTP activity in 2491 seconds"
20:24.12enderspackle: yeah, basically why test twice (:
20:24.35Taboyp
20:24.37Taboyup
20:24.40Taboeverything works
20:24.52Tabobut I left the setting on the phone default
20:24.59Weezeyanyone use NuFone with SIP?
20:25.23spackleTabo: did you go into the sip settings and point it at your Asterisk server and give it username and password?
20:25.28drmc_who would i set up a context where incoming calls to the asterisk box with number _NXXXXXX*${callerEXTEN}* i need to set ${CALLERID} with value between the *'s after the extension ( or before i can format the exten to send *${callerEXTEN}*_NXXXXXX  ( the var ${callerEXTEN} is curently not set by asterisk its only there as a placeholder  for the purpose of thie explanation)
20:25.34drmc_who = how
20:25.46pardoveHELP! my * deadlocks after getting tons of these mesgs: "NOTICE[11235]: Disconnecting call 'SIP/2101-a4a0' for lack of RTP activity in 2491 seconds"
20:25.50Tabospackel : nope
20:26.20KattyHow amusing is this: My grades were high enough in school that harvard can't turn me down.
20:26.27Taboits DHCP
20:26.31Taboso isn't it automatic?
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20:26.39KattyYet, the little university in /this/ town keeps saying I need MORE references.
20:26.43drmc_more concisely i need to rip off the numbers between the *'s and put that data in ${CALLERID} any hlp would be appreciated
20:26.44spackleTabo: nope.
20:26.50Tabook
20:26.53KattyMaybe i should just tell them the bossman is on the schoolboard :)
20:27.07Tabobtw: my asterisk box ip is 192.168.0.160
20:27.09mutilatoror not bother with a piddly shit school?
20:27.30fugitivoTabo: the dhcp is automatic, you need to setup the asterisk ip address, username and password in your phone
20:27.40Tabospackle: do I need to modify the firmware or config files on the phone?
20:27.47TaboAhhh
20:27.49newmemberI saw a shoreline voip system today, and when a call came in, it had a pop up on the computer desktop telling you the number calling in, Does * have a thing like that?
20:28.09spackletabo: just the sip settings on the phone.  Not the firmware.
20:28.10pardoveHELP! my * deadlocks after getting tons of these mesgs: "NOTICE[11235]: Disconnecting call 'SIP/2101-a4a0' for lack of RTP activity in 2491 seconds"
20:28.11Kattymutilator: the university is in the same city i work. harvard is far, far away
20:28.12fugitivonewmember: yes
20:28.22Tabospackle: is ata + analog phones easier to setup
20:28.27Taboor voip phone only
20:28.41fugitivoTabo: it's the same, ip of the asterisk server, username, password
20:28.49Weezeydrmc_:   _NXXXXXXNXXXXXX,1,Set(CALLERID(number)=${EXTEN:7})
20:28.51opus_pardove does it core?
20:28.53spackletabo: they are virtually the same, once ou learn how, it will be easy.
20:28.59mutilatorwhat;re you going to be doing at the college?
20:29.02mutilatorer
20:29.06opus_pardove what version of asterisk are you running and what OS/hardware are you using
20:29.07mutilatoruniversity..
20:29.07Tabousername and password, how to you assign it and tell asterisk that information?
20:29.11Taboin the sip.conf?
20:29.15spackleyup
20:29.16drmc_weez you rule thanks!
20:29.20Tabodefaultip=192.168.1.156
20:29.20Tabosecret=1234
20:29.28fugitivoTabo: you add the account in sip.conf, then setup your phone with that information
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20:29.44Taboyou guys are the best
20:30.24spackletabo, once you have done it manually, you can figure out how to automatically assign it to new phones using dhcp and tftp.  It takes time and reading to learn.
20:30.24drmc_weez i need to remove the first _NXXXXXX from the enten string now =]
20:30.33Tabowhat is tftp?
20:30.38Weezeydrmc_: then you'd _NXXXXXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(SIP/yourproviderscontext/${EXTEN:0:7})
20:30.40drmc_so its not passed on tot the fone co
20:30.43spackle~tftp
20:30.44jbottftp is probably being worked on and nfsboot of ne2k cards should be there soon.
20:30.52tuxinator_linuxMTabo: Trivial FTP
20:30.57TaboI got digium 400TDM
20:31.03Tabowith 2 fsxs ports
20:31.05spackleor Trivial file transfer protocol
20:31.10drmc_gotcha thanks =]
20:31.46WeezeyTabo: oo a 22.
20:32.02pardoveopus_: i'm using CVS HEAD
20:32.36opus_pardove what exactly does deadlock mean
20:32.38Taboaastra documentation lacks the setup on the phone part
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20:32.46Maverichave any of you started using 1.2.0-beta1 yet?
20:32.56pardoveopus_: but doesn't make any sense i also got the same with stable
20:33.34pardoveopus_: deadlock means: * seems to run but no in/out calls could be made
20:34.07spackleTabo: no, it's all there in the admin guide.
20:34.17opus_pardove there is a instructions page on the voip-wiki about debugging asterisk, one about doing a backtrace on all threads. i think if you should run that and then send something to the asterisk dev mailing list, ask them if a bug report needs to be made.
20:34.30spackleTabo: in fact, that they mention Asterisk is excellent.
20:34.35opus_the debugging is done with something like, "gdb asterisk <pid of deadlock process>"
20:34.36Tabospackel..  is my sip proxy ip the same as my asterisk box?
20:34.38opus_and i think the command is
20:34.43opus_info all threads
20:34.44Taboie. 192.168.0.160
20:34.45opus_bt all threads
20:35.23spackleTabo:  I think the important items are registrat=aster server
20:35.48Tabotype in "aster server" there?  not the ip?
20:35.49opus_also it helps if you mimize your configuration to the smallest possible configs, and pos t that as well. steps to recreate, etc, problem statement
20:35.55pardoveopus_: thanks, i will try to do this
20:36.06spackleTabo: the IP of your asterisk server
20:36.21*** part/#asterisk naturalblue (n=Adam@195.26.12.229)
20:36.32Tabook 192.168.0.160
20:36.37Tabousually its 192.168.0.40
20:36.43jarrodhow come when the remote party hangs up.. asterisk does not send a hangup to the called party?
20:36.43Tabohow about the proxy server?
20:36.45Tabosame?
20:36.57spackleTabo and sip line1 name and userid should be whatever you put in sip.conf.
20:37.15spackleTabo, I don't think you will need proxy server, but it would be the same.
20:37.55Tabook
20:38.05TaboI didn't specify the userid
20:38.09Tabocallerid="Phone 1" <200>
20:38.18Tabois that "Phone 1" is my username?
20:38.25spackleyes.
20:38.51Taboi get it
20:39.09Taboso "Phone 1" will be display on the voip phone
20:39.15bkw_yes
20:39.18Taboie " someones name"
20:39.27pardovewhen i start asterisk all of my zap channels get Ring Alarm, i'm using TE405P with 4xTA750 CB full fxo
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20:42.00drbrownDoes anyone know how to detect if a phone is in use????
20:42.13Nuggetyes!!!!
20:42.25drbrownNugget: how so???
20:42.37Ariel_HINT
20:43.00*** join/#asterisk hadi57 (n=al_moghr@83.136.8.206)
20:43.03NuggetWhy are we shouting???
20:43.12fugitivoWHO?
20:43.19Nuggetdrbrown is shouting!!!
20:43.21Ariel_Nugget, that is one of the commands to see
20:43.25fugitivoWHY
20:43.32*** join/#asterisk Led_Zeppelin (n=none@cpe-24-210-78-5.columbus.res.rr.com)
20:43.37drbrownI don't mean to shout
20:43.43Tabospackle..  strange my phone never worked
20:43.49Hmmhesaysstairway to heaven! play stairway!
20:43.51Tabobut there is dial tone and now I see 10 calls have been made
20:43.52Ariel_drbrown, I did not you.
20:43.54Taboin my call logs
20:43.55Tabolol
20:43.57KattyHmmhesays: hi.
20:43.58Led_Zeppelinhello, I am tring to select a good vo/ip, anyone have a good choice? something very cheap...
20:44.04drbrownok
20:44.04KattyHmmhesays: did you hear the somewhat good news?
20:44.04Led_Zeppelinvoip provider
20:44.05HmmhesaysKatty: hey
20:44.12Hmmhesaysnegatory
20:44.17Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, very cheap or good
20:44.20TaboLED: u're looking for the phone?
20:44.25KattyHmmhesays: i can officially go to harvard if i want. and if i have a million bucks sitting around.
20:44.30Hmmhesayscool
20:44.33Led_ZeppelinTabo: yes..for my apartment
20:44.37Led_ZeppelinAriel_: both
20:44.38Tabograndstream is cheap
20:44.40Tabobut its ugly
20:44.47Ariel_Sipura is cheap
20:44.49KattyHmmhesays: think i can get a master is cookie baking?
20:44.50Tabobut my friend said its really good
20:44.55KattyHmmhesays: s/master/masters/
20:44.56drbrownI am attempting an auto answer intercom setup, is there a way to see if the hint is active from within the dial plan????
20:44.56HmmhesaysKatty: I doubt it
20:45.05KattyHmmhesays: silly university.
20:45.07Hmmhesaysthat grandstream is not just ugly... its fugly
20:45.16spackleTabo: check sip.conf and phone settings over again.  Then try using the proxy address on the phone set to the same IP as asterisk server.
20:45.18drbrownfbugly
20:45.20TaboLED: do you plan to use voip phone or ata+ analog phone
20:45.27Tabocuz analog phones have more selection
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20:45.37Tabook thanks spackle
20:45.41TaboI'll hang out here mroe
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20:45.56Tabosince I'm work 7 daya a week
20:46.13Ariel_drbrown, what type of phones are they?
20:46.24Taboled: analog phoens are cheaper too
20:46.32Maverichave any of you started using 1.2.0-beta1 yet?
20:46.33pfnvoip phones are nicer
20:46.37drbrownspa-841, and sayson 480i
20:46.46*** join/#asterisk lilo (i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)
20:46.47Tabosayson is same as aastra right?
20:46.48HmmhesaysI got a 7940 I'll let go for 200 bucks
20:46.49Taboi have that
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20:46.53Taboits really nice
20:46.57Led_ZeppelinTabo: just vo/ip I am trying to avoid getting a landline.
20:46.57drbrownI am able to use the auto answer just fine on all
20:46.58Ariel_drbrown, don't know the 480i supports hint
20:46.59Tabosimilar to nortel phones
20:47.04Led_ZeppelinI already have a cell, but my minutes are limited.
20:47.06drbrownyes sayson=astera
20:47.07spackleTabo, how do you know- it's not working yet ;-)
20:47.08pfnI need a new screen for my 7960
20:47.13drbrownasstra
20:47.15drbrownsorrry
20:47.24Ariel_aastra
20:47.29Hmmhesaysif you get an ata then you can plug a cordless phone in
20:47.30Led_Zeppelinso, is voyanage the way to go?
20:47.31Tabospackel cuz when I call out doesn't work
20:47.41Ariel_argh vonage
20:47.45Led_Zeppelinlol
20:47.46Taboled: thats good u can probably save on a digium card
20:47.50Hmmhesaysbonvoyanage?
20:47.51drbrownI just need to be able to send the call differently if a channel is open
20:47.51Maverichmm
20:47.57spackledrbrown, how do you like 480i?
20:48.04drbrownbetter
20:48.07Tabo480i has 4 lines
20:48.08pfnI think I'd rather use an ATA over an fxs, at least due to the echo stuff
20:48.10Mavericare any of you using version 1.2.0-beta1 yet?
20:48.10Led_ZeppelinTabo: i don't really need a digium card do I? I am planning to run asterisk too...
20:48.13drbrownhated it when I first got it
20:48.19drbrownupto today as a matter of fact
20:48.20Hmmhesayswtf ATA is an fxs device
20:48.22Tabowell I bought one
20:48.23Tabowith 4 ports
20:48.27spackledrbrown have you compared to polycom?
20:48.32Tabobut using only 2
20:48.34pfnI mean a direct fxs card in asterisk
20:48.37Led_ZeppelinTabo: its really not needed though..its only for your codecs
20:48.38Tabocuz voip may not be 100% reliable
20:48.41drbrownwould recomend snom phones, and will never buy anything else for now
20:48.49Ariel_polycom polycom are best....are best.... just my view
20:48.50Taboso when the voip or internet is down, I still have two landlines to back up my business
20:48.51Hmmhesaysits more reliable if you put your networking stuff on ups's
20:48.51Led_ZeppelinTabo: you bought a card because of that?
20:48.58pfnsnom phones are too expensive for what you get, imo
20:48.58Taboyes
20:49.05drbrownI have never used polycom phones
20:49.06pfnI'd like to try a polycom phone
20:49.10pfnif I can get one for a good price
20:49.18Hmmhesaysin my area when the power goes out, the cable does not, if you have your stuff on ups's
20:49.19Taboone day for a business with no phone is lost revenue
20:49.19Led_ZeppelinTabo: the card is for codecs right? not for having another option.
20:49.21drbrownI like snom real well
20:49.28Taboits a PCI card
20:49.28Ariel_pfn, the the IP-501 is around 175
20:49.44Led_ZeppelinTabo: yes...but how does that give you an option of POT?
20:49.46TaboI think u can buy a cheap $20 x100
20:49.49Tabodigium x100p
20:49.51Taboor something
20:49.52drbrownI bought 2 spa-841's, and 1 480i, and really wished I would have bought 3 snom phones
20:49.59Hmmhesaysapp_amsterdam?
20:50.05pfnariel that price sounds pretty good, I'd have to consider it
20:50.07Tabodrbrown: u don't like your 480i?  I plan to buy ten of those
20:50.08Led_Zeppelindrbrown: looking at the 3com my self now
20:50.23pfnbut I like the ip600 or whatever it is, better
20:50.34drbrownI heard 3com's support for * features are limited
20:50.44Ariel_pfn, are you the one that is from Vietnum?? were you not on the channel a long time ago?
20:50.47drbrownyou get the full deal w/ snom
20:50.49lathos42We're most likely going to go with the IP-501 here.. although I do have a problem with its network suddenly deciding not to respond in the middle of the weekend while i'm gone
20:50.51pfnyeah, that's me
20:51.00Ariel_pfn, long time no see/hear
20:51.18pfnalways been here, just lurk for a long time, not much time for the phone biz, wife and work eat up all the time
20:51.21afrosheenlathos42: we've had a few phones we've RMA'ed, maybe 3 out of 55
20:51.26Led_Zeppelindrbrown: hmm really?
20:51.38lathos42afrosheen: Any of 'em have the problem I just described?
20:51.41Ariel_pfn, she is here then with you now great.
20:51.46Led_Zeppelindrbrown: glad you are saying something alteast..google is no help
20:51.46spacklelathos42, is that with POE?  or a separate power adapter that they drop off the network?
20:51.50afrosheenlathos42: nope but it sounds like an RMA candidate
20:51.53drbrownI was told from my distributor, that if I wanted a phone that has all the bells & wistles go snom
20:52.04opus_lathos42 network not responding after the weekend could be caused by bad power or massive traffic flooding the phone
20:52.07afrosheenI hate the snom displays myself
20:52.11Led_Zeppelinso, voynage is bad, eh? for service. Anyone have a good recommendation?
20:52.12pfnariel, yeah, it took some time
20:52.15drbrowndigium uses snom
20:52.21Ariel_snom are ok but there too light for our use. I had about 200 of them in my last location.
20:52.21lathos42spackle: its with the power adapter right now, we're going PoE for our production rollout
20:52.29drbrownI heard packet8 is kick ass
20:52.41afrosheenlathos42: you realize the 501's require special power for POE right
20:52.44Hmmhesaysvonage business service is top notch
20:52.46Ariel_replacing all of them with polycom IP-501 10 times better phones
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20:52.53Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: for home though...
20:53.04lathos42afrosheen: What do you mean by special power?
20:53.09Ariel_special power it comes with it's cable and power supply.
20:53.11Hmmhesaysfor home they don't let you use your own ata, you're stuck with that linksys
20:53.14opus_haha what do you mean by special power:)
20:53.23afrosheenlathos42: not the standard POE power, the 50
20:53.26afrosheenwoops
20:53.26fugitivosuperman has special powers
20:53.29Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: any suggestions? :-)
20:53.35opus_you need a proprietary PoE injector
20:53.38lathos42opus_: I wonder if its all of the traffic caused by our full backup we run on the weekend
20:53.40spackle~special power
20:53.41afrosheenthe 501's don't have POE chips built in like the 600's do so you need the injectors
20:53.41Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: need something reliable, and CHEAP
20:53.47Hmmhesaysheh
20:53.48opus_PoE is the most messed up standard in the history of man
20:53.58opus_"lets reverse the polarities .."
20:53.59afrosheenno wonder it hasn't taken off
20:54.07Hmmhesaysvonage is pretty reliable and cheap, if you're ok using their linksys
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20:54.12spackleopus_ how can you leave out SIP USB abluethooth and h.323?
20:54.18brad_msswdoes a SIP transfer usually occur using the REFER statement?
20:54.21Hmmhesaysotherwise there are a shi@t ton of providers out there
20:54.25Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: i want to use asterisk too..to cut down on my costs of any hardware.
20:54.39DannyFanyone of you guys using a Cisco PIX 506E with IOS 7.0(1) ?
20:54.42Hmmhesayswhy would you use asterisk in a single phone setup?
20:54.43Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: yea..been doing reserch on them, they all sound the same...no reviews out there
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20:54.48opus_spackle they don't fry equipment.
20:54.50Ariel_vonage and asterisk for single phones don't mix well
20:55.01Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: not worth it? I guess I can use it for my answering machine.
20:55.04lathos42err them
20:55.05afrosheenlathos42: it's well documented, hit up a polycom store and you'll see the injectors, hell they might be on ebay also
20:55.05Hmmhesaysonly in the business plus plan do they mix well
20:55.07spacklelathos42, I hope you aren't on a strict schedule for your conversion.  There are a lot of surprises waiting for you.
20:55.24Tabogusy
20:55.29lathos42You guys mean the cables that run $35-40, right?
20:55.32afrosheenyep
20:55.32TaboPacket8 doesn't allow you to use asterisk right
20:55.32opus_the injectors are $30
20:55.32fugitivowhat's the technical explanation of why vonage doesn't work with asterisk?
20:55.41opus_its cheaper to build them yourself
20:55.42lathos42That you can get in either a standard or cisco configuration
20:55.45lathos42correct?
20:55.48Hmmhesaysthey won't give you the registration information for the residential plan
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20:55.59afrosheenthey're kinda polycom-specific due to the inline POE chip in the cable
20:56.05Ariel_packet8 and vonage are about the same they require there ata
20:56.06fugitivoHmmhesays: so, the login information is inside their atas?
20:56.10Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: because $30 is a lot of money for me....I want something cheaper.
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20:56.18Hmmhesaysdeltathree
20:56.25Tabopacket8 is very good thou I have to admin
20:56.26blitzmerecan someone tell me how i can getasterisk to accept client from behind a nat--asterisk not behind nat, softphone is
20:56.26Hmmhesaysyou'll see mixed reviews on them
20:56.27opus_$30 * 50 is a lot of money for anybody to shell out half way through a project:)
20:56.27Taboadmit
20:56.28kimosabecan some one tell me how i can add some type of service that will allow me to make reports of the calls made via my box
20:56.33r0mgood evening
20:56.34lathos42I'm going to see if someone will throw them in with the phones instead of the power bricks
20:56.46drbrownis there anyway to change a variable after a call is over, that is upon hangup????
20:56.47Hmmhesaysdeltathree is pretty cheap
20:56.48Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, cheaper then get asterisk and add broadvoice to it.
20:56.49afrosheenblitzmere: just set nat=yes or nat=always in the sip.conf for that extension
20:56.49opus_good luck lathos
20:56.51AschizGot SIP response 486 "Busy" back from 68.14.17.12
20:56.51lathos42if not, I already have them budgeted
20:57.10blitzmereok
20:57.13Aschizdoes anyone have the same problem with Asterisk-v1.0.9?
20:57.15afrosheenlathos42: the bricks will work if plugged into the switch on the far side, but getting them all plugged into something is fun
20:57.22opus_plug the power adapters into UPC's :)
20:57.27mutilatorAriel_: it no spakeda teh lingedy
20:57.27afrosheenexactly
20:57.28opus_thats what i did
20:57.34Hmmhesayswhere you located Led_Zeppelin
20:57.40spacklekimosabe: check the wiki, there is a web-based call detail reporter (CDR) works OK.  Asterisk doesn't doa enough call logging for billing in the opinion of some people
20:57.52Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: USA
20:57.55KattyHmmhesays: if i call you, will you play me led zeppelin music?
20:57.59Ariel_mutilator, ah
20:58.01Hmmhesayswhere in the usa
20:58.01afrosheenlathos42: actually, you can
20:58.04Hmmhesayssure katty
20:58.04mutilatorwhat else would there be to log?
20:58.14Led_ZeppelinAriel_: good suggestion...you like BroadVoice? I was looking at that earlier today
20:58.23Led_ZeppelinKatty: what song? :-)
20:58.31Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, there cheap
20:58.33spacklemutilator: multiple call legs for one.
20:58.34afrosheenlathos42: that's how we power one of our remote wireless APs
20:58.37fugitivoLed_Zeppelin: check Teliax too
20:58.38AschizI have a queue with about 15 people. And periodically Asterisk will automatically log everyone off. Has anyone encounted a similiar problem?
20:58.41Ariel_they work 90% of the time
20:58.42kimosabespackle www.wiki.com ?
20:58.43mutilator?
20:59.00Hmmhesaysapp_queue is not very highly thought of around here
20:59.01KattyLed_Zeppelin: whatever.
20:59.03spackle~wiki
20:59.05afrosheenAschiz: how long is your queue time
20:59.11lathos42afrosheen:  I meant without the Polycom PoE cables :)
20:59.11Led_ZeppelinAriel_: is that what you use? you probally gave me the best advice in 15 mins over me googing all day! thx!
20:59.19mutilatorspackle: meaning?
20:59.19spacklewww.voip-info.org
20:59.33afrosheenlathos42: the power injector/network cable that comes with the phone works fine jacked into a standard switch on the far side
20:59.41Aschizwhat do you mean by queue time?
20:59.51afrosheenAschiz: queues time out don't they?
20:59.52Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, I use them but don't due to there australia included in there plan
21:00.01Aschizi had it at 15
21:00.09afrosheenwell there you go
21:00.12lathos42afrosheen:  Right, I meant that I knew that a PoE switch wouldnt work without the special cable
21:00.15Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, there ok work but for biz I would use others
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21:00.32spacklemutilator: I'm not sure, some people have complained about it, but I'm not running my business with it.
21:00.35afrosheenlathos42: roger that...a POE switch isn't what you need with these phones :)
21:00.35AschizIt will only log an agent off if the phone rings for 15 seconds without answering
21:01.18Led_ZeppelinAriel_: for home only...
21:01.37Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, yes I use it for home only.
21:01.51KattyLed_Zeppelin: yes, but you're not in a conference call.
21:01.54lathos42afrosheen: For my Network closet's sake I do :)
21:01.55Led_ZeppelinAriel_: okay, any other suggestions?
21:02.03Led_ZeppelinKatty: what?
21:02.04KattyLed_Zeppelin: if you have an eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks number, i'll ringring
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21:02.11Hmmhesaysdo you need to have your pants down to strum?
21:02.23Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays:lol!
21:02.29Led_Zeppelinyou are sick Hmmhesays :-)
21:02.37Kattythat's why we like Hmmhesays
21:02.43Led_ZeppelinKatty: you mean IAX ?
21:02.43Kattythat and his hair.
21:02.47KattyLed_Zeppelin: obviously
21:02.56Hmmhesays<chuckle>
21:02.59Led_ZeppelinKatty: sorry I am new to this vo/ip go easy
21:03.03KattyLed_Zeppelin: k
21:03.08afrosheenlathos42: I don't know how safe POE switches are with these phones, you'll probably need the injectors one way or another
21:03.20HmmhesaysLed_Zeppelin, if you're going to make a funky spelling then at least say VoIP
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21:04.36Led_ZeppelinHmmhesays: sure
21:04.56lathos42afrosheen: Well, I'm going to get a Dell PoE switch, and then use the Polycom PoE cables, part # 2200-11077-002 to plug in between the PoE switch and the phone so they properly get their power.  I'm hoping I can get someone to throw the Polycom PoE cables in with the phones instead of the standard Power/Ethernet cable and power brick
21:05.23Led_Zeppelinso, I guess I can use BroadVoice->Aserisk -> router -> VoIP phone, eh
21:05.24opus_lathos42 you might want to consider get IP600 all together
21:05.35*** mode/#asterisk [+o drumkilla] by ChanServ
21:06.17afrosheenyeah the ip600's are true POE phones..and if the cost is within ~$30 difference, it's all the better
21:06.22drbrowndoes anyone have any ideas on howto detect if someone is on a SIP phone, so as to disable auto-answer, this is for an intercom setup????
21:06.25Led_Zeppelinis there a VoIP newbie channel,mailing list out there?
21:06.34lathos42opus_:  Well, even if I have to end up buying the cables separately, it's still $50 less than buying the IP600
21:06.37opus_Polycom 220011630001
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21:06.44opus_Polycom IP600 from froogle $241.67
21:06.50afrosheenouch
21:07.06afrosheenbut they have 6 lines and true poe
21:07.06puowvipwonder if my tdm cards arrived today
21:07.25methosis there an admin page to set up provisioning on the RT31P2 similar to the pap2?
21:07.33opus_lathos42 - yes but you have to consider time involved. its only cheaper if your time is worth less
21:07.34Led_Zeppelingood looking phone though
21:07.36lathos42Someone mentioned yesterday that they got their Polycom reseller to just give them the PoE cables instead of the Power Bricks for the same price
21:07.55jarrodanyone using mgcp with asterisk?
21:07.56enderwhat is spandsp used for?
21:08.05lathos42And in that case, the IP501 is $172
21:08.06Weezeyjarrod: yeah, works quite well
21:08.08jarrodender: receiving faxes
21:08.09TaboRT31P2 is a router/voip where as PAP2 ir voip only
21:08.35methosTabo, yes, I know that, I just need to set it up so it provisions from my provisioning server properly.
21:08.38enderjarrod: ah, ok, not needed fo rme then.
21:08.40jarrodweezey: had a problem with the asterisk destroying the channel but the remote device not knowing it was hung up?
21:08.50methosBut I don't see the same options as on the PAP2 for the voip provisioning.
21:08.51opus_$172 + $50
21:08.55Weezeymethos: I got mine connecting to a PHP script, works sexily.
21:09.04opus_$172 + $50   with no PoE switch
21:09.12opus_or $241 with PoE switch
21:09.14Weezeyjarrod: no, what kind of device?
21:09.25Rowterpcix works ok with tdm400 just if anyone want to know >)
21:09.30methosWeezey, so are all my pap2's, about 150 of them
21:09.30jarrodwell its an integration device for a legacy phone system
21:09.51enderif I"m not connecting to a PRI, do I need libpri?
21:09.59Weezeymethos: you buy from IM or TD?
21:10.10jarrodwhen i ring the channels via asterisk.. and then the remote party hangs up.. it deactivates the channel, but the phone system keeps the line in use
21:10.13methosI just plug the pap2 into my local system and it sets up all the ssl and such automagically
21:10.25methosindirectly they come through TD
21:11.10methosI had one of the RT31p2s set up before, but that was a long time ago, I forgot how to do it since then :p
21:11.13Taboanyone know the cheapest place to buy sayson's 480i's
21:11.18Led_ZeppelinAriel_: what do you think about this, "https://www.sunrocket.com/sign_up/linkshare_entry.do?plan=y&partner=ls&siteID=ydmf4rFDNTw-1oEOl5eKdROaBZjNtMDRyA" ?
21:11.22*** part/#asterisk Kai (n=jmwoodga@45.e6.d12c.cidr.airmail.net)
21:11.30lathos42opus_: Where are you getting the extra $50 from?
21:11.55drbrownTabo: don't buy one
21:11.55TaboLED.. don't pay for one year
21:12.03Tabopay for one month and try it out first
21:12.09Weezeyjarrod: hmm, that's weird, I haven't seen that on mine.  Mine's a crappy dlink job.
21:12.12Tabodrbrown: how come
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21:12.16TaboI like it
21:12.26TaboI wished they had nortel voip phones
21:12.32Taboits very simlar to the nortel ones
21:12.36Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, ok never heard of them. But they want a years service up front.
21:12.40kimosabecould some one give me the link for the asterisk call manager reporter for call detail and statistics
21:12.58spackleTabo, Nortel will have a new IP phone in Q4
21:13.01Led_ZeppelinAriel_: Tabo: why is that?
21:13.02opus_lathos42 made it up. $30 for adapter. $20 when you find out it was the wrong one (because there are like 5 different models) :)
21:13.03drbrownThe phone was incomplete until about 2 weeks ago, and sayson's support for the phone is crappy at best
21:13.14spackleTabo, they say it will speak SIP in Q1 96
21:13.24opus_1996?
21:13.34Supaplexlol
21:13.35spackleopus_ yep.
21:13.48Supaplexsooo we wait until 1996. *laf*
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21:13.50lathos42opus_: Well, I would leave that up to my vendor to make sure I received the proper one.. and it would be their problem if it wasnt :)
21:13.56spackleIt will be in the $300 ballpark and have a gigabit ethernet port
21:13.56Ariel_there are people out there that just want your money
21:14.03drbrownsayson makes most of Nortel's phones
21:14.04puowvip1996 will come around on the spacetime guitar just when exactly?
21:14.07Borgonastwind vs asteriskwin32 who takes the gold medal?
21:14.19spackleer. 2006, sorry.
21:14.26Ariel_Borgon, none
21:14.27spacklegettin' real old.
21:14.30methosah, administration port.
21:14.42BorgonAriel_: i know i know but its not for a real production enviornment
21:14.53Supaplexsomeone's stuck in the last decade :-x
21:15.14Ariel_Borgon, ok so you want someone to say this one sucks worst then the other one?
21:15.28kimosabedoes any one run somthing for call detial
21:15.30spackleI'm really stuck in the 80's.  Where did I put my Apple }{e?
21:15.45BorgonAriel_: yeah basically
21:15.48afrosheenkimosabe: like cdr?
21:16.07BorgonAriel_: am not going to be doing anything fancy.. just make outgoing calls
21:16.09Ariel_Borgon, I have now don't quote me on it. used for a demo AsteriskWin32
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21:16.56kimosabeafrosheen i guess i want to know what calls are made via my server
21:17.03Borgonhehe i tried asteriskwin32 ... iax2 show registry showed it was registered etc but  for some reason my softphone couldnt connect to 127.0.0.1 or localhost
21:17.14Ariel_kimosabe, there is a nice php stat setup for asterisk
21:17.20Borgonso am gonna try the other astwind to see
21:17.40dlorussoI just ran into a potential bug with 1.2beta1:  I did a "cat /proc/zaptel/1" (using ztdummy) and get random garbage appended to the output.  Has anyone else seen this sort of thing?
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21:18.10Borgondlorusso how is that a bug?
21:18.24kimosabearfiel where can i find details on this pp stat for asterisk
21:18.25kimosabe?
21:18.30Led_Zeppelindo you guys think VoIP will drop their prices in the future, or have these prices been the same?
21:18.36Supaplexit's an undocumented feature, like any other bug. ;)
21:18.55dlorussoBorgon- It seems like zaptel may be following an invalid pointer
21:19.05BorgonLed_Zeppelin: competition drives down prices.. soon telephone companies will tap hard into voip
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21:19.36Led_ZeppelinBorgon: have the prices changed in the last few days, months, years?
21:19.43Led_Zeppelinor have the prices been the same?
21:19.50distortioLed: pricing in US is still greatly tied to traditional phone companies who control the last mile
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21:20.08BorgonLed_Zeppelin: am not sure but as the hardware becomes cheaper etc it will go down
21:20.27distortiopricing will come down when there are more "in network" voip users, similar to how cell phone companies do it
21:20.48Led_Zeppelinoh okay.
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21:21.08distortiovoip international is a different story- its pricing has been falling for years, and is way cheaper than traditional tdm calls
21:21.11Led_ZeppelinI hope they do get cheaper...before I get out of college..I am in a need of getting a phone service, but its just too expensive!
21:21.30distortiovonage is too expensive?
21:21.40Led_Zeppelindistortio: i think so, its $30 a month...
21:21.47distortioyou can get vonage for the same price as a local line with dialtone :)
21:21.54distortio14.95 for the basic plan
21:21.55Led_Zeppelindistortio: I have to have $50 for broadband...
21:22.11distortiodsl is down to $15 a month through sbc/yahoo
21:22.16Led_Zeppelindistortio: yes, I know but most of my friends are all over the U.S so I stay pretty close to them...
21:22.46Led_Zeppelindistortio: LOL...not here, we share broadband (roomates and I)...its $15/month each for 4 of us :-(
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21:23.11Led_Zeppelini don't know how people without jobs afford that stuff
21:23.22distortioperfect, add another 5$/month for the 4 of you and you have unlimited calling :)
21:23.26Led_Zeppelinlooks like that $19.00 service is nice.
21:23.34Ariel_Led_Zeppelin, no job?? hum I dont' have a job... self employed here.
21:23.36Led_Zeppelindistortio: lol yea.
21:23.47Led_ZeppelinAriel_: yea..got a job :-( sucks
21:24.13Led_ZeppelinAriel_: tutor for the compsci dept...pay sucks, but I work on UNIX all day :-)
21:25.22Led_Zeppelinso, if I get a service...will they give me hardware or do I buy my own?
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21:26.55sylenot possible to have an extension 100 and 1006?
21:27.08syle100 always gets executed first trying to call 1006
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21:27.39Sedoroxooo personilazation (sp)
21:27.40Sedorox:p
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21:33.27Aschizanyone know about this message?  Got SIP response 486 "Busy" back ....
21:33.49AschizANy help is welcome..
21:34.02manywhat kind of fon?
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21:36.24hardwirehttp://voip001.corp.anc.tdxnet.com:8000/stream.ogg == 19077628407
21:36.27hardwireI love app_ices
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21:38.44clyrradis there a way to use variables in queues.conf that was created in extensions.conf?
21:39.13MikeJ[Laptop]clyrrad, what are you trying to do?
21:39.19spackleclyrrad: dbset
21:39.42clyrradI create a variable.... an extension number in extensions.conf... and I need that to be passed into queues.conf
21:39.55clyrradso i can use one context for many queues
21:41.03clyrradspackle dbset yields no results on voip-info.org
21:41.40PupenoLI have Asterisk installed and I am registered with a Linksys PAP2 and Linphone, does anybody know how to make a call with linphone (dialing 3 makes the linphone ring, dialing 1 should make the other phone ring, but I don't know how to dial 1) ?
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21:43.02clyrradI am wondering if its even possible to use variables in the queues.conf file.... *scratches his head*
21:44.37spackleclyrrad: sorry, it is here:http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20cmd%20DBget
21:46.47clyrradspackle... I dont see how that would work though... I need to replace [2000] with [${varName}] inside queues.conf
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21:47.56clyrradI think the problem is that the variable is in a different file and does not get passed
21:48.23parylhow long do you guys think it will be before 1.2.0 is ready for production use?
21:49.11enderanybody know what ztclock is and why some rpms add it to the zaptel source?
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21:50.55spackleclyrrad, it may not work.
21:51.34clyrradspackle.... the other problem with dbput and dbget is each call will overright the value so when multiple calls come in it will not work
21:51.47r0msee you boys 'n' guys tomorrow!
21:54.31clyrradany of the experts here know the answer to my question?
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21:55.43Ariel_clyrrad, I have go. but there is a command you need to look up called SetVar
21:56.03spackleclyrrad: I'm off, but what if you add a value to make the value unique?
21:56.17clyrradthanks Ariel_ I tried setVar
21:56.37Ariel_See you later folks. It's time to take the drive home in the rain...
21:56.38clyrradits sets the variable in extensions.conf... but the problem is getting queues.conf to read it
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22:02.45Delta34anybody here using cisco phones?  which setting sets the callerid name for person initiating call, i get callerid on the person that receives the call
22:03.04Delta34so when i dial, i see who i am dialing
22:03.55zipppsip.conf callerid?
22:04.08Tabohey guys
22:04.18Tabowill they ever make asterisk for windows?
22:04.24Delta34i got that set already, the called person sees the callerid name
22:04.32zipppso what do you want?
22:04.47zipppname of who you are calling to show up on the phone?
22:04.59Delta34i want to see when i dial 4xxx when it starts the call, 4xxx is so so
22:05.06Delta34xten does is
22:05.10Delta34it
22:05.17zipppthat is phone specific
22:05.28zipppi.e. an address book
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22:08.45Delta34any cisco users know how to implement this?
22:08.58Delta34i have a directory.xml file
22:10.21blitzmerecan someone tell me what --> WARNING[3036]: chan_sip.c:7762 sipsock_read: Recv error: Connection reset bt peer <-- means???
22:12.51darkskiezDelta34: spoke england? you learn it from a book ?
22:13.07darkskiezDelta: Oh i read back earlier
22:13.12darkskiezDelta: I want that too
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22:13.29darkskiezDelta: its a feature thats JUST been added to the sip7.5 firmware
22:13.41darkskiezDelta: but, * does not support it just yet
22:14.02stormfrhello, how to verify that's other party don't have Comfort noise enable ? (else than the warning that's send asterisk) Is it in a sip message ?
22:14.05darkskiezDelta: as its not existed until just not and no other sip phone supports it
22:14.29darkskiezDelta: its the SIP Update feature and the Remote-Party-ID stuff, so look on the tracker in coming months, but wont be added to 1.2
22:14.51darkskiezDelta: But if u use the SCCP firmware and chan_sccp you can use SetCalledID or somthing to that effect
22:15.22darkskiezsorry, just back from the pub and am pished
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22:16.09darkskiezstormfr: comfort noise shouldnt be a problem, are you sure u dont mean VAD or silence detection ?
22:16.52gpledlooking for a linux voice mail solution.  is asterisk the way to go?
22:17.00darkskiezyes
22:17.05darkskiezNEXT!
22:17.26stormfrdarkskiez : message from asterisk is rtp.c:284 process_rfc3389: Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389).  Please turn off on client if possible.
22:17.38darkskiezOh, that
22:17.53stormfrdarkskiez : client (gateway) is huawai and it's global setting and it's disable
22:17.54darkskiezshit, forgot
22:18.09darkskiezis that client a phone or another gateway?
22:18.27stormfrdarkskiez : they deliver 50 Millions minute per month so it's a big gateway i guess
22:18.58stormfrmaybe error in new warning code ? or they make a mystake in my sip trunk but we try 3 days to make different test and still warning
22:19.18darkskiezdont know sorry
22:19.22stormfrthanks anyway
22:19.45darkskiezbut i suspect the gateway hasnt disabled comfort noise
22:19.52Aschizanyone know about this message?  Got SIP response 486 "Busy" back ....
22:20.03AschizI really need a hand...
22:20.04darkskiezThey're on the phone
22:20.11darkskiezask the bird?
22:20.14enderanybody know anything about cleaning up make files for 64bit installations?
22:20.27enderstupid zaptel makefile hardinstalls things to /usr/lib/ instead of /usr/lib64
22:20.50gpledender: as in make clean?
22:20.55darkskiezhardcoding to /usr/lib64 would be bad too
22:22.00enderdarkskiez: yes, it needs to be changed to be arch modular.
22:22.03Piranha-any recommendations on where to buy a single fxs card?
22:22.34darkskiezTDM400 with one module ?
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22:23.01blitzmerecan someone tell me what --> WARNING[3036]: chan_sip.c:7762 sipsock_read: Recv error: Connection reset bt peer <-- means???
22:23.25darkskiezblitz: it means the client closed the connection
22:23.33darkskiezmaybe it was turned off
22:23.53blitzmereok thanks
22:24.25jarrodhmm
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22:32.47generalhanOMG please tell me someone in here has successfully witched a cisco 7960 from SCCP to SIP ... this is the hardest thing to do EVER
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22:36.22newmembergeneralhan: some guy in my office just did that
22:37.47generalhannewmember: oh yeah, LOL, well tell him to get on here and explain it to me
22:37.54generalhancuase i cant get it to work
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22:39.00criptosHI, DOes anyone have configured asterisk to use telextreme witout the ata devices?
22:39.14criptosexperiences with telextreme?
22:39.21newmembergeneralhan: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Setup%20SiP%20on%207940%20-%207960
22:39.47newmemberI remember him tellong me it takes a few minutes to upload the sip firmware
22:39.50generalhanbeen there
22:40.02generalhani followed the step by step instructions and still nothing
22:40.07generalhanit wont update the firmware
22:41.53newmembergeneralhan: hmmm, I do not see him online at the moment
22:42.16newmembergeneralhan: it better had work, I have 22 more coming in the morning
22:42.55generalhanyeah i have 15 here in my office, and i ordered 15 cheapy SIP phones that worked perfectly but at over $300 a pop my boss will be VERY pissed if he loses out on that investment
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22:45.05newmembergeneralhan: $270 each for me
22:45.32newmembergeneralhan: look nice, we will see when they are on my desk how things go
22:46.29generalhanwel we are using the phones now on the SCCP and i LOVE them they are great phones
22:46.56generalhanbut we are getting rid of this REALLY expensive cisco hosted stuff and going to asterisk and i dont want to lose the phones
22:49.55gtigeneWith CVS HEAD do I have to use a 2.6 kernel or can I use 2.4?
22:50.30Tabowell
22:50.30criptos<PROTECTED>
22:50.43Taboites cheaper than spending $10,000 on a real pbx
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22:50.59blitzmerecan i get more help
22:51.07criptosabout what bli?
22:51.14blitzmerei need help with ---> Aug 30  WARNING[2376]: chan_sip.c:700 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 17c5e07e0b0abb7751af16c61dee132f@69.193.166.19
22:51.14blitzmere3 for seqno 102 (Non-critical Request)
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22:51.45enderwhat all is mpg123 used for in asterisk?  mpg123 doesn't compile for x86_64, so I need a replacement.
22:52.02zipppmpg321?
22:52.36gtigeneender: mpg123 is used for music on hold. I don't know what else
22:52.45enderappearently mpg321 isn't sufficient.
22:52.51enderk.
22:53.20gtigeneender: I think  I had mpg321 at first and it didn't work
22:53.57enderhrm, suse has an x86_64 build of mpg123... I wonder how they did that.
22:54.38Ariel_ender, you build it for 32 bit code and just copy the files over
22:54.59Ariel_mpg321 does not work with asterisk.
22:55.09paulcAny Adtran experts in the house? I'm looking for a bit of Total Access 608 info - simple question with a simple yes/no answer?
22:56.29Ariel_paulc, I have used adtrans but the su-600 TA-750/850 only
22:56.40paulcsimilar kind of devices though?
22:56.41paulcmy question is..
22:57.17paulcI've got a customer who's having a T1 come in.. it was going to be split in to a meg for data and 8 FXS ports... I'd rather it was groomed in to a meg for data, then a fractional T1 out (to be connected to an asterisk box).. Doable?
22:57.47Ariel_yes
22:58.04blitzmereand how can i fix this ---->  NOTICE[2376]: indications.c:397 ast_unregister_indication_country: Removed default indication country 'us'
22:58.08Ariel_but it will have to be 8 analog rest data
22:58.41paulchas to be 8 FXS ports? I can't output a fractional PRI to the asterisk box? like channels 1 to 8?
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22:59.06Ariel_paulc, does not work that way
22:59.21Ariel_at least not on that unit
22:59.24paulcok, so that model is a "groom data and give me 8 FXS ports" type device..
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22:59.33paulcis there a unit that'll split a T1 in to fractional PRI + data?
22:59.41Ariel_your t1 card in the asterisk box can do with some work do what you want
23:00.13enderAriel_: mpg123 doesn't have good machine code for x86_64 os
23:00.16Ariel_paulc, yes there are units that can do that.
23:00.19enderAriel_: the assembly is borked.
23:00.55paulcAriel_: Yeah, I wondered about letting the asterisk box do all the work but would rather not go down that path
23:01.01paulcany recommendations on a T1/PRI groomer?
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23:01.47Ariel_ender, you need to compile it on a 32 bit first then just bring that over
23:02.34Ariel_paulc, let me check with a person I know.  I remember him getting the line directly into the asterisk box to the t1 card and using it to do the seperation.
23:02.53paulcthanks - that would be really helpful :)
23:02.57enderAriel_: um, and if the assembly doesn't match up?
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23:03.10Ariel_paulc, you could call digium to see if they have the settings. But then your asterisk box will be your data gateway
23:03.48Ariel_ender, I know that drunkilla did it. You should check with him.
23:04.09paulcYeah, I'm kinda keen to avoid that.. I'd rather have a box that splits my data and PRI, then plug a sub-equipped/fractional PRI in to my Asterisk box.. nice'n'simple..
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23:04.51Ariel_paulc, have you asked you t1 vendor?
23:05.22Ariel_don't tell them it's for an asterisk box most don't know what that is.
23:05.29paulcI'm sort of the middle man - the customer's talking to them direct.. it was them that suggested the 608.. so I can ask further.. but if I can go to them and say "you need model XXX" then everyone's life becomes easier
23:05.37paulchehe.. yeah.. just tell them you need a fractional PRI for the voice side
23:06.07Ariel_well then your next best call would be to adtran
23:06.24Ariel_they are very good at helping and provide the model numbers and options you need.
23:06.59Ariel_Adtran's office is in the general area of digiums.
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23:09.34paulcYeah.. who used to work at Adtran.. angler? or maybe it was mark?
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23:10.58Delta34anybody know how to fix this WARNING[29115]: chan_sip.c:701 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call?
23:11.36JerJerdon't exceed the max retries
23:13.57Delta34when i do a sip debug, it ends like this Retransmitting #5 (no NAT): SIP/2.0 487 Request Terminated
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23:20.27blitzmerewell my soft client plays music when it calls instead of a ring
23:20.41blitzmereanyway of fixing this
23:21.11Ariel_blitzmere, take the m out of your dial plan
23:21.25blitzmereok thanks
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23:24.34Hmmhesaysbkw_ boi you around?
23:26.42Ariel_paulc, the 608 will not do what you want
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23:27.07HmmhesaysI have a serious dilema
23:28.08Ariel_Hmmhesays, are you on your death bed?
23:28.44Hmmhesaysno
23:29.03HmmhesaysI need some infrastructure pointers though
23:29.07HmmhesaysI just got a job offer
23:29.15Ariel_ahh
23:29.18Ariel_nice
23:29.27Hmmhesayswith an isp that wants to start to offer voip to their 4,000 customers
23:29.49Hmmhesaysthey looked me up cause i'm the only asterisk guy in town
23:29.50Ariel_wow nice
23:30.00Ariel_really town where?
23:30.03Hmmhesaysfargo
23:30.09paulcAriel_: Yeah.. The 608 is definitely not what I want.. the question is what device will give me a fractional PRI..
23:30.26paulcHmmhesays: Nice project.. but scary too huh? ;-)
23:30.32Hmmhesayspaulc quite
23:30.42Ariel_paulc, talk to my pal he is in Columbia right now and is not able to talk much.
23:30.56Hmmhesaysso I was hoping to maybe talk to bkw_ or anthm about how asterlink is set up
23:31.09paulcSomeone I know wanted to do VoIP for a whole city/government thing.. including a hospital.. I shat my pants and ran a mile
23:31.15Ariel_Hmmhesays, really now.
23:31.18paulcasterlink have a bunch of boxes with T1s in I think
23:31.23paulcwell, I know.. from whe I was there..
23:31.39Hmmhesaysoh really Ariel_?
23:32.19Ariel_Hmmhesays, part time I am helping them manager 9 asterisk boxes right now.
23:32.37Hmmhesaysthe one thing i'm missing is how do you centralize configuration amongst 10-20 asterisk boxes
23:32.46drumkillaHmmhesays: realtime?
23:33.25Hmmhesaysi suppose
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23:33.30Hmmhesaysis it stable these days?
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23:33.44drumkillalots of people are using it ...
23:33.46Ariel_Hmmhesays, not yet
23:33.51drumkillaand soon to be much more when 1.2 comes out
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23:34.02HmmhesaysAriel_: what are you using currently?
23:34.07Ariel_but you could also do it via SER if your going to offer sip
23:34.30Hmmhesaysa single ser box could probably handle their 4k customers <chuckle>
23:34.41Ariel_we have a setup that uses flat files from a mysql database
23:34.45sedwards50How can I mute DTMF while in meetme?
23:35.19Ariel_Hmmhesays, it was setup before realtime and we have tested realtime and it's still got issues.
23:35.31Hmmhesayshow do you accomplish routing between a large number of boxes, i've done 2 or 3 but the way I do it bassackwards
23:35.35Ariel_ser gets out of the way of the call so yes
23:35.36shmaltzsedwards50, what technology on the client?
23:35.37Hmmhesaysor so it seems
23:36.13sedwards50Zap. Zap forwarded via Iax appears to be mostly muted.
23:36.18Ariel_we actually control the 3 main boxes with a external raid qfs mount
23:36.18Hmmhesaysthe way they are setup asterisk will have to handle the media, unless its a reinvite between asterisk boxes
23:37.15Hmmhesayssay we are doing just sip here too
23:37.27Ariel_Hmmhesays, you do reliase we had to do allot of custom work for the asterisk to work correctly with the cdr's.
23:37.47HmmhesaysAriel_ i'm sure, this company has some good C guys though
23:38.09Ariel_good then your 80 % there
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23:38.41HmmhesaysI"m missing a key element in the dialplan for routing  with 10x boxes though
23:39.14Hmmhesayshmmm
23:39.39paulcHmmhesays: I think when I was there, it was text config files, rebuilt periodically from a database, and mounted via NFS share so all nodes shared a common config
23:40.19Ariel_paulc, similar with ours but we use qfs instead fo nfs it's faster and safer
23:40.39Hmmhesayssay I have 10x boxes with 100 peers on each though,  peer1 registers with box one, peer1000 registers with box 10
23:40.47Ariel_Our C programmer did the web interface and user accounts setups. Then writes the files out.
23:41.12Ariel_I handled the macros and rules for rollover and hosted systems from the extensions.conf
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23:41.32Ariel_Hmmhesays, you don't need that many
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23:41.58Hmmhesays?no?
23:42.02Ariel_it's up to how your going to load balance it. and you don't always need to be in the mix either unless your going to pstn all the time.
23:42.31Ariel_what happens is that you will see lots of users actually calling others in your own area code which are suprising on your own system.
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23:42.52Hmmhesaysload balancing would probably happen by registering 120 so each box
23:42.52Trionnisoh good god
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23:42.55Hmmhesaysunless there is a better way
23:42.58Trionnissomeone boot that loser
23:43.13Ariel_Hmmhesays, if your doing sip mainly use the power of ser for front end
23:43.26Ariel_asterisk as your back end gateway to pstn.
23:43.37HmmhesaysI don't know that much about ser
23:43.45Ariel_Then if you need to assign IAX accounts you then manage them on a central asterisk box.
23:43.48Hmmhesaysno iax
23:43.51Hmmhesaysall sip
23:44.14Hmmhesaysargh I feel like a n00b again
23:44.15Ariel_easyer then. But the rules are well harder to learn on SER
23:44.52tzangerugh why's it so fucking hard to find a windows modbus protocol analyzer
23:44.57Ariel_Hmmhesays, well it's a new project far bigger then the others.
23:45.07Hmmhesaysyes
23:45.20Hmmhesaysbasically what I need is a good sip setup with centralized config for 4k users
23:46.08Trionnisanyone around that knows how to add voices to Festival?
23:46.20Ariel_Hmmhesays, how do you know your going to have 4000 sip user right off the bat.
23:46.30tzangerHmmhesays: sounds like something custom and something lucrative
23:46.33tzangerget coding :-)
23:46.35Hmmhesayswell it has to be scalable
23:46.45Trionnisspecifically this one: http://www.festvox.org/cmu_arctic/dbs_slt.html
23:46.56Ariel_Hmmhesays, yes you build it that way. But don't put all the boxes up at first.
23:47.03Hmmhesaysi have no problem with 500 users, but the way I would do the dialplan seems a bit off
23:47.15Ariel_why
23:47.35Ariel_dial plans are even simpler when you are just providing sip accounts
23:47.43Hmmhesayswell say with 4 boxes you have 120 peers registered to each box
23:47.55Ariel_Hmmhesays, no you don't
23:47.59Hmmhesaysno?
23:48.05sedwards50shmaltz, The zap channels on the meetme box do not mute the DTMF. The zap channels forwarded to the meetme box via iax mostly mute the DTMF.
23:48.24paulcI was wondering the same thing.. like.. how can you load balance phones <--> access boxes
23:48.44sedwards50Would TDMoE mute or not mute DTMF?
23:48.51Ariel_Hmmhesays, our main box has over 2000 registered users.
23:49.20Ariel_SER
23:49.27Hmmhesaysthey are registered to ser?
23:49.35Ariel_DNS servers and hartbeat for the back end
23:49.41Ariel_yes
23:49.46WeezeyAriel_: how many calls to you get at peak times?
23:49.51Hmmhesaysso ser does all the routing
23:50.20Ariel_let me login it's almost peak in California
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23:51.31ohadhi, is there an easy way to setup Iaxy?
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23:51.36WeezeyAriel_: is SER running on the same box as asterisk?
23:51.38Ariel_wow not many right now only 452
23:51.38Trionnishey tzanger, what do you know about festival?
23:51.43Ariel_no
23:51.48tzangerTrionnis: no, sorry
23:51.53Trionnisbah
23:51.55Weezey452/2000 is more that not many.
23:51.56ohadAriel_, are you talking to me?
23:51.56Trionnisanyone?
23:51.58Trionnis:)
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23:52.17Ariel_that how many channels are on right now
23:52.28Ariel_sorry active channels
23:52.37Ariel_ohad, no
23:52.48drkfiberI have very choppy music on hold connecting in via sip using X-Lite. have not tried with any other softphones, I didn't find much by googleing. Any Ideas?
23:53.04Trionnisturn off silence supression
23:53.08WeezeyAriel_: that's not "not many" though, that's a fairly high number of them.
23:53.19Hmmhesaysso Ariel: you have ser taking care of all of your registrations
23:53.28drkfiberI am using Asterisk@home. How do I turn off silence supression?
23:53.29ohadeasy way to setup Iaxy?
23:53.34Hmmhesaysasterisk is taking care of tdm and voicemail?
23:53.34Trionnisin xlite
23:53.41Ariel_Hmmhesays, yes they do. But I did not configure the ser
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23:53.45Ariel_I setup the asterisk side
23:54.01drkfiberI will try. Thanks.
23:54.08Hmmhesayswhat back end database are you using for auth?
23:54.08Trionniswelcome ;)
23:54.12timecoptest
23:54.23timecopoh wow, did this channel take out bulshit requirement to ident before joining?
23:54.33Weezeytimecop: yep
23:54.36timecopexcellent
23:54.44blitzmeredoes anyone know how I can fix this --->> NOTICE[2376]: indications.c:397 ast_unregister_indication_country: Removed default indication country 'us' <----
23:55.18Ariel_got to go customer on phone
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23:56.51[hC]is there a way to make it so that when i run out of g729 licenses, it fails over to using another codec instead of just passing into dead air??
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23:59.53drkfiberTrionnis, that worked.  Thanks again.

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