00:00.08 | rg1_ | anyone know a source URL or whatever where folks like me want to have local numbers in different cities - in other words, someone that PRI DID numbers they want to exchange/sell? |
00:00.12 | loke_ | fugitivo what is zaptel? a phone? |
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00:00.25 | fugitivo | loke_: modules need to use some kind of hardware |
00:00.29 | fugitivo | needed |
00:00.36 | loke_ | gotcha |
00:00.47 | loke_ | fugitivo what os you use for asterisk? |
00:00.52 | funjon | heh |
00:00.53 | fugitivo | gentoo |
00:00.56 | loke_ | nice |
00:01.03 | loke_ | compiling is a bitch tho |
00:01.08 | fugitivo | :) |
00:01.31 | loke_ | someone should show you gentoo guys... binaries |
00:01.39 | loke_ | j/k ;P |
00:01.40 | funjon | bah |
00:01.42 | fugitivo | lol |
00:01.44 | funjon | binaries are evil :) |
00:01.56 | fugitivo | compiling is a game with good hardware |
00:01.57 | loke_ | depends if you want your os installed before your dead |
00:02.05 | fugitivo | and emerge is the ultimate app for a sysadmin ;) |
00:02.11 | loke_ | i like apt-get |
00:02.15 | funjon | it takes me 40 hours to build everything on my laptop |
00:02.21 | dano | rg1: You can use www.didx.org or ask here (cheaper or free depending on what you're looking for. |
00:02.25 | funjon | everything being kde, gnome, enlightenment, openoffice, etc. |
00:02.29 | loke_ | shit i can have a debain box built in 40 minutes or less |
00:02.38 | funjon | yeah yeah |
00:02.39 | zippp | there are only so many optimizations per configurations, we have the resources to make a binary distro as optimized as gentoo |
00:02.41 | funjon | i like gentoo |
00:02.45 | funjon | i'm willing to burn the weekend |
00:02.49 | Sedorox | gentoo roxors |
00:02.53 | loke_ | on my amd x2 box, debain install was like 5 minutes |
00:02.55 | fugitivo | loke_: i like apt-get too, but emerge has better stuff |
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00:03.05 | zippp | the worst thing about gentoo is half the people who use it don't know the optimizations, therefore compiling without them |
00:03.13 | loke_ | apt-get has all the security/hacker tools in the apt repositories |
00:03.19 | fugitivo | zippp: that's true |
00:03.29 | loke_ | i love apt |
00:03.32 | zippp | they just use it because it is 733T or whatever |
00:03.45 | fugitivo | zippp: slack is 31337 |
00:03.51 | loke_ | well, later guyz, thanks for the help, ill read up on * |
00:03.52 | bprice20 | hey a gentoo conversation, I use gentoo & tweak out my make.conf but I agree thats a bad thing but not the worst thing |
00:03.53 | fugitivo | gentoo is a new distro |
00:03.54 | dano | gentoo...great features, all the bells and whistles, slick. For a desktop. A bit too bleeding edge for servers IMHO. |
00:03.57 | zippp | yea, however that shit goes |
00:04.11 | zippp | personally, debian on the server and suse for the desktop |
00:04.16 | zippp | with opensuse now here |
00:04.29 | zippp | but always debian on the servers |
00:04.34 | loke_ | debian on a server is suicide, unless you have mad kern patches for security |
00:04.38 | dano | I run debian for my Asterisk primary. |
00:04.39 | funjon | hmm |
00:04.41 | funjon | Aug 29 17:09:21 WARNING[20289]: loader.c:345 ast_load_resource: app_voicemail.so: load_module failed, returning -1 |
00:04.43 | loke_ | i like debian on the lappy |
00:04.46 | funjon | bad |
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00:04.52 | loke_ | linux kernel is shit |
00:04.55 | zippp | ha |
00:04.57 | loke_ | as far as security |
00:05.00 | fugitivo | gentoo is stable when you want, and unstable when you want |
00:05.07 | netnameus | When i try and boot my asterisk box I get "Setting hostname asterisk1.local" - FALIED |
00:05.13 | netnameus | how can I remedy this situation? |
00:05.21 | loke_ | openbsd for security on servers, and debian on the lappy |
00:05.29 | loke_ | Cresl1n lol |
00:05.29 | fugitivo | netnameus: that's not an asterisk question |
00:05.31 | netnameus | it also says (not sure if this is supposed to say this) |
00:05.34 | loke_ | Cresl1n ight im out |
00:05.35 | dano | netnameus/etc/resolv.conf |
00:05.38 | loke_ | lates |
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00:06.05 | funjon | why the heck is it trying to log into the db for voicemail |
00:06.14 | bprice20 | ok real asterisk ? now,... can I use privacy.conf on a per user basis privacymanager app is soo undocumented |
00:06.15 | fugitivo | everytime i say i use gentoo, a discussion starts |
00:06.19 | *** join/#asterisk generalhan (i=general_@63.133.146.82) |
00:06.36 | generalhan | anyone used a cisco 7960 with asterisk ??? |
00:06.38 | bprice20 | so if some users want anonymous call block they can have it and its not global |
00:06.45 | zippp | fugitivo, it just sparks me because people use it for the absolute wrong reasons |
00:06.54 | zippp | generalhan, 80211 |
00:07.05 | generalhan | ??? |
00:07.06 | bprice20 | generalham I am having same crap I can't get my 7960 working either |
00:07.17 | generalhan | i cant even get it started |
00:07.29 | generalhan | it says in the docs to edit the SIPdefault.cnf file |
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00:07.33 | fugitivo | zippp: well, people uses what they like most |
00:07.34 | zippp | sorry, 7920 is 80211 |
00:07.35 | generalhan | but i dont even have that !! |
00:07.43 | zippp | never remember cisco model numbers |
00:07.46 | dano | funjon: is your voicemail.conf file found and parsed? |
00:07.55 | bprice20 | generalham I'm far beyond that |
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00:08.00 | zippp | fugitivo, that is the beauty, I can use what I want |
00:08.02 | generalhan | well help me with that then ! please ! |
00:08.03 | generalhan | lol |
00:08.06 | fugitivo | zippp: yep |
00:08.23 | bprice20 | I have sip.cnf, mac.cnf all the other varios files sip firmware etc, I just can't get the darn thing to register |
00:08.38 | generalhan | well where did you get the files ? |
00:08.44 | generalhan | or did you make them on your own ? |
00:08.45 | bprice20 | I had to create them |
00:08.50 | generalhan | i see |
00:08.50 | generalhan | ok |
00:09.04 | bprice20 | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+cisco+79xx |
00:09.10 | generalhan | i guess then my next step is to figure out how to create a TFTP server on Linux |
00:09.31 | fugitivo | generalhan: emerge tftp |
00:09.39 | fugitivo | hehe |
00:09.41 | funjon | yeah, but does it -need- to hit mysql? |
00:09.49 | dano | generalhan:7960 and 7940's work great with Asterisk, just get your self Cisco's SIP image and buy some g729 licenses (unless you have good upstream bandwidth already). Even if you do I would recommend buying the g729 licenses, why waste 64k of bandwidth when you can use 8k and the quality is even better. |
00:09.51 | generalhan | that the program to use ? |
00:10.08 | *** part/#asterisk hubbaba (n=me@71-12-171-64.dhcp.gsvl.ga.charter.com) |
00:10.09 | Insanity5 | dano - You think g729 is better than 711? |
00:10.23 | fugitivo | 711 for lan |
00:10.26 | generalhan | i have the SIP image ... im just trying to figure out how to use it ... i need to get a TFTP server set up |
00:11.15 | funjon | ooh |
00:11.15 | funjon | got it |
00:11.27 | funjon | Asterisk Ready. |
00:11.27 | funjon | *CLI> |
00:11.30 | funjon | this is progress |
00:11.42 | dano | Quality is perfect. Can you hear a difference, I think the g729 provides a better experience. If all traffic is on a LAN then fine, but if you upstream anywhere then you're gonna pay the bandwidth price. |
00:12.14 | generalhan | well im not owrried about bandwidth i have a dedicated t-1 for voice only that these phones will be running on |
00:12.16 | pfn | g729 doesn't work well for some applications |
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00:23.16 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.0 Beta1 - http://www.asterisk.org || Astricon 2005 - Anaheim, CA - Oct 12-14 - http://www.astricon.net/2005 - Speakers wanted! || A core dump is your computer's way of saying "Here's what's on my mind, what's on yours?" |
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00:23.32 | dano | Hardwire: Thanks. I will keep it in mind if I can't find a FL or CA number in the next 20 mins. |
00:23.42 | hardwire | dano: I joke :) |
00:23.46 | hardwire | cause.. you don't want it |
00:24.35 | dano | hardwire: What's wrong with AK? haha |
00:25.44 | stepcut | anyone know approx. how much cox charges for their DS-0 Digital Trunck? Their sales office is closed for the day :( |
00:26.10 | stepcut | s/Trunck/Trunk/ |
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00:29.23 | dano | funjon: send me your sip.conf and SIPmaadres.cnf and I'll tell you what's wrong if you want. |
00:29.40 | dano | maddres=macaddress |
00:30.20 | funjon | my phone is here at work, the server is at home |
00:30.27 | funjon | but, i'll send you my sip.conf, one sec |
00:30.45 | dano | funjon: what phone are you using? |
00:30.50 | BrianR___ | About to do my asterisk rollout at work... Around 25 sets, and a key system integration with about 100 more users... |
00:31.45 | funjon | Sipura 841 |
00:32.01 | funjon | also trying to get iaxComm to log in too |
00:33.09 | Vco | i've found the 841 terrible for echo.... |
00:33.18 | Vco | unless i got a bad phone..... |
00:33.28 | Vco | firmware updates were no help |
00:34.02 | funjon | i've heard good things about them |
00:34.10 | Vco | so have i |
00:34.12 | Vco | =( |
00:34.30 | funjon | they're starter phones, i'm trying to get things working without spending thousands on phones |
00:34.49 | funjon | right now if i can get the softphone to call my deskphone i'll be happy |
00:34.53 | dano | funjon: just for starters, UDP 5060 is open to your IP yes? Are you natted? |
00:34.55 | funjon | then i need to get the FXO/FXS worked out |
00:34.55 | Vco | heh..heh.. |
00:35.14 | funjon | dano: machine is outside firewall. my lapotop and deskphone are nat'd, but it's an all:all outgoing policy |
00:35.19 | funjon | dano: I'm getting this: |
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00:36.33 | funjon | Aug 29 17:41:02 NOTICE[28514]: chan_sip.c:7733 handle_request: Registration from 'Jon's Desk <sip:jondesk@xx.xx.xx.xx>' failed for 'yy.yy.yy.yy' |
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00:37.58 | Lathos42 | Good evening |
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00:39.42 | bprice20 | will 1.2.0 have realtime? |
00:39.46 | dano | First thing I would try without md5 as I don't know about Sipura's support for this. |
00:40.04 | funjon | it was commented out the first time, but let me try it |
00:40.48 | funjon | npoe, still failing |
00:41.08 | nick125 | great, i cant remember how to fix that res_features error |
00:41.40 | nick125 | Aug 29 17:40:18 WARNING[3481] loader.c: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_features.so: undefined symbol: ast_monitor_stop |
00:41.41 | nick125 | Aug 29 17:40:18 WARNING[3481] loader.c: Loading module res_features.so failed! |
00:41.48 | nick125 | oh nvm |
00:41.52 | nick125 | i think i got it |
00:43.14 | dano | Give me your proxy address and I can try and connect if you want to test with a 7940. Better than going round the houses with a nat problem. |
00:43.29 | funjon | back in 20 |
00:43.32 | funjon | good luck :) |
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00:44.15 | dano | Ok...anyone here that can offer me a US number for inbound only? |
00:44.24 | telephoneman | Can anyone here talk about 32bit libraries vs. 64bit libraries? |
00:44.27 | fugitivo | dano: stanaphone |
00:44.29 | Cybertoy | dano, stanaphone.com |
00:44.35 | Cybertoy | for free even. |
00:44.44 | telephoneman | I have a 32b library I need to integrate into 64b Asterisk |
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00:45.29 | nick125 | where can i find the native module to play mp3s with beta1? |
00:45.39 | dano | can I get this free and sent over IAX? |
00:45.40 | nick125 | i see format_ogg_vorbis, but no mp3 |
00:45.50 | Cybertoy | dano, no .. it's SIP ... |
00:46.04 | Cybertoy | I don't think stanaphone offers IAX. |
00:46.09 | fugitivo | no |
00:46.10 | fugitivo | only sip |
00:46.11 | Cybertoy | dano, if you find one let me know... :) |
00:46.14 | dano | I really am looking for someone to peer with and I can trade a London or UK non-geo number. |
00:46.15 | nick125 | anyone know the module for mp3 in asterisk? |
00:46.18 | fugitivo | fwd supports iax, but not us numbers |
00:46.28 | dano | musiconhold.conf |
00:46.48 | nick125 | ahha, its in the addons package |
00:46.59 | nick125 | (format_mp3) |
00:47.04 | Cybertoy | dano. libretel .. but they cost... not that much though. |
00:47.44 | dano | mohmp3...use mpg321 or there is a new one which is supposed to be even better, but I can't recall the name |
00:48.12 | Delta34 | rawplayer |
00:48.15 | dano | I only need the number for 3 or 4 weeks, but I would prefer one which I can use permanently. |
00:49.20 | dano | Yeah...I've looked at all the others, I just don't want to signup for a recurring debit when I should be able to exchange a number with someone. Not too mention get done faster. |
00:49.30 | fugitivo | dano: stanaphone is free |
00:50.08 | nick125 | what the heck.. |
00:50.08 | nick125 | Aug 29 17:49:16 WARNING[4203] file.c: File /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/QuajiroPromo does not exist in any format |
00:50.09 | nick125 | Aug 29 17:49:16 WARNING[4203] res_musiconhold.c: Unable to open file '/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/QuajiroPromo': No such file or directory |
00:50.23 | nick125 | im trying to use native moh |
00:50.42 | Delta34 | is there a major difference with using cvs checkout -r v1-0 and the asterisk-1.0.9.tar.gz file? |
00:50.56 | Delta34 | both stable releases? |
00:52.24 | fugitivo | i don't like google talk quality |
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00:54.39 | dano | does stanaphone support iax? |
00:54.45 | fugitivo | no, sip only |
00:56.06 | dano | I really want IAX as I am in Spain and I want use my high bandwidth proxy on a 100Mb connection in Lonfon and convert to g729. |
00:56.35 | fugitivo | you want a free number? |
00:56.49 | dano | yes please. |
00:56.56 | fugitivo | i only know stanaphone |
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01:01.17 | Cybertoy | so ... if I checkout current asterisk version will it give me 1.2.0 beta1? |
01:01.28 | Cybertoy | or do I have to explicitely check that one out? |
01:01.43 | Cybertoy | using CVS that is |
01:02.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Cybertoy, things have been commited sense 1.2 beta 1 |
01:02.14 | MikeJ[Laptop] | so you will get some new stuff. |
01:02.19 | MikeJ[Laptop] | there is a tag for the beta |
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01:02.22 | Cybertoy | ah |
01:02.23 | Cybertoy | ok |
01:02.24 | Cybertoy | tnx |
01:02.27 | MikeJ[Laptop] | or you can pull the tarball |
01:02.38 | MikeJ[Laptop] | from ftp |
01:02.42 | Cybertoy | nah .. I think I did an upgrade yesterday to current... |
01:02.51 | Cybertoy | so in that case I should be on something newer than beta1... |
01:02.57 | MikeJ[Laptop] | well.. beta 2 will be soon |
01:03.03 | Delta34 | is there a major difference with using cvs checkout -r v1-0 and the asterisk-1.0.9.tar.gz file? |
01:03.08 | Delta34 | both stable releases? |
01:03.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Delta34, both 1.0 branch, -r v1-0 is not a release |
01:03.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it is current of the 1.0 branch |
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01:03.58 | Delta34 | so its newer then 1.0.9? |
01:04.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it is 1.0.9 plus updates to that branch after 1.0.9 was released |
01:04.33 | Delta34 | cool thxs |
01:07.40 | nick125 | the native moh is awesome |
01:08.08 | funjon | dano: any luck? |
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01:08.36 | rob804 | I didn't even know I still had an IRC client installed on my PC... |
01:09.01 | rob804 | Busy channel... anyone actually here? |
01:09.36 | nick125 | yeah, some people are aroudn |
01:09.51 | file | nope, I'm not here |
01:09.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | nope |
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01:10.26 | rob804 | Cool. Just stumbled onto Asterisk yesterday. Any particular distro it likes to run on? |
01:10.42 | Nugget | it doesn't matter. |
01:10.49 | nick125 | yeah |
01:10.52 | Nugget | asterisk doesn't even really care if you use linux at all. any unix is fine. |
01:11.26 | Nugget | I run three asterisk servers and only one of them is linux. |
01:11.41 | file | I run asterisk on my watch, OMG |
01:11.47 | Cybertoy | lol |
01:11.48 | nick125 | file: wow, can i see? |
01:12.12 | nick125 | asterisk on a watch wow |
01:12.13 | file | nope |
01:12.14 | file | it's sekret |
01:12.16 | nick125 | why not? |
01:12.20 | nick125 | fine :( |
01:12.44 | rob804 | Cool. I have to admit, I barely know anything about Unix/Lunix, 'cept for what I read on slashdot. |
01:13.21 | rob804 | I'm in the process of installing Fedora on VMWare right now so I can play around with it. |
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01:13.58 | telephoneman | why VMWare |
01:14.02 | telephoneman | ? |
01:14.15 | Cybertoy | rob, I did that and threw it out a day after I was done |
01:14.19 | rob804 | Because I don't have a spare box at home. |
01:14.31 | Cybertoy | rob, fedora was waaaay too slow on vmware |
01:14.36 | telephoneman | you can build a box from parts |
01:14.40 | rob804 | Cybertoy- was it useful for experimenting? |
01:14.48 | Cybertoy | rob, only if you're patient. |
01:14.51 | rob804 | telephoneman- I live in a tiny NYC apartment... no room for parts! |
01:14.55 | telephoneman | just build a FC system by itself... |
01:14.59 | Cybertoy | rob, maybe if you don't want any X windows... |
01:15.13 | Cybertoy | rob, I'm with redhat v9 |
01:15.19 | rob804 | Cybertoy- patient because it was slow? Or because there were problems? |
01:15.28 | Cybertoy | rob, just 'cause it was slow. |
01:15.43 | Cybertoy | rob, took about 20 minutes just to boot up! |
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01:16.00 | rob804 | Cybertoy- sheesh! |
01:16.10 | Cybertoy | rob, and my host is a dual xeon with 1gb of ram... |
01:16.24 | Cybertoy | rob, but feel free to make the experience... :) |
01:16.42 | rob804 | Well. the last time I played with anything Linux it was to setup SpamAssassin like three years ago, and I had a friend with me who knew what he was doing. |
01:17.24 | Cybertoy | rob, get redhat v9 ... runs a lot faster .. is very stable ... just no longer supported by redhat since they went commercial. |
01:17.41 | Cybertoy | rob, I never tried Suse ... that might be another good one that runs nice on vmware. |
01:18.55 | rob804 | Cybertoy- You think it'll be faster than Fedora, eh? I suppose I could find a site with the ISOs somewhere. |
01:19.06 | telephoneman | rob: go on the Internet, buy an Athlon 64 processor, a Gigsbyte/Asus/MSI mother board, a memory stick, and a 40GB HDD. |
01:19.12 | rob804 | Do I need any special tools to compile it? |
01:19.36 | telephoneman | you'll also need a case |
01:19.36 | Cybertoy | rob, nah .. out of the box is fine. |
01:19.43 | rob804 | telephoneman- thanks for the tip, but I really don't want to setup another machine at my apartment. If you saw it you'd understand. |
01:19.49 | telephoneman | and two screwdrivers, plus and minus |
01:20.02 | telephoneman | no excuses, rob |
01:20.07 | telephoneman | then load FC |
01:20.13 | telephoneman | and learn |
01:20.19 | telephoneman | learn |
01:20.25 | rob804 | What's FC? |
01:20.34 | rob804 | I've built my share of PCs... |
01:20.38 | telephoneman | and when you're comfortable, go to asterisk.org |
01:20.51 | shmaltz | ~fc |
01:20.53 | jbot | hmm... fc is Fedora Core. It is essentially the development platform for Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). You do not want to use FC for a production system. If you need a RedHat based product but can't pay for the support of RHEL, there are several distributions such as TaoLinux and Whitebox Linux which you can use. |
01:21.00 | telephoneman | FC=fedora code |
01:21.05 | telephoneman | fedora.redhat.com |
01:21.16 | telephoneman | download the iso files and burn CDs |
01:21.27 | telephoneman | FC=fedora core |
01:21.53 | rob804 | oic |
01:22.04 | telephoneman | jbot: we're talking about a lab experiment |
01:22.38 | rob804 | I've already got the ISO for FC. That's what I'm using to install on VMware. |
01:24.04 | rob804 | 15 min left on the install. |
01:24.04 | dano | Sorry...I'm back. Just looking at stanaphone. |
01:24.13 | dano | Funjon: are you using a stun server? |
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01:24.37 | Cybertoy | dano, I'm not. |
01:24.59 | dano | haha |
01:26.15 | telephoneman | Who knows about a multilib system? |
01:26.23 | bkw__ | ok we be leaking 76 bytes like mad somewhere |
01:26.27 | funjon | uh, whazzat? |
01:26.27 | telephoneman | lin32 and lib64 |
01:26.41 | telephoneman | lib32 and lib64? |
01:26.42 | Ariel_ | bkw_, which ended up sounding better? |
01:26.54 | funjon | 18:31:27.141673 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 169, offset 0, flags [DF], length: 410) 66.92.13.131.5060 > 10.224.1.18.5060: UDP, length: 382 |
01:26.59 | funjon | not gonna make it back, methinks |
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01:28.01 | dano | funjon. you need a stun server if you're nat on the other side. |
01:28.08 | funjon | i'm only NAT on this side |
01:28.14 | funjon | the asterisk server is not NAT'd |
01:29.01 | funjon | there isnt a way to tell the phone to intelligently figure out what its ip is? |
01:29.27 | dano | Yes, but the nat parameter assumes you're still local to the server. I am not big on Asterisk's nat, but from my understanding you need a stun server. That's the only way I've made it work with the server not local to the phone. |
01:29.58 | funjon | damn, that kind of obviates using it at all |
01:30.05 | funjon | i wanted to send a phone to my mom |
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01:30.49 | Cybertoy | dano, I'm using asterisk behind nat with SIP to stanaphone and it works like a charm without stun... |
01:31.00 | telephoneman | when the NAT'd phone registers to an Asterisk server facing the Internet, the phone opens the connection throught the NAT |
01:31.18 | Cybertoy | funjon, if your asterisk box is not behind nat like you said it'll work ... |
01:31.56 | funjon | right |
01:32.08 | funjon | the server is in front of the firewall, no nat, true public IP |
01:32.11 | telephoneman | If in your sip.conf file you say qualify=yes then Asterisk will send keep-alive messages to keep the NAT session open |
01:32.15 | funjon | my phone is behind my netscreen |
01:32.31 | funjon | the problem as i see it is that my phone is telling asterisk its ip is 10.224.1.18, which obviously isnt publicly routable |
01:32.36 | funjon | cuz thats what i see in a tcpdump |
01:32.54 | file | put nat=yes and canreinvite=no for the entry in sip.conf for the phone |
01:33.56 | funjon | hmm, cool, now its trying the public ip |
01:34.02 | funjon | but i still get a login fail :( |
01:34.05 | rob804 | How do the Vonage boxes do it? They're all behind consumer routers and such. I guess the box initiates the connection home? |
01:34.31 | Cybertoy | funjon, in that case you probably need a stun server... |
01:34.44 | Cybertoy | funjon, most IP phones or ATA's will let you configure one. |
01:35.02 | Cybertoy | funjon, stun.xlite.net would be one... |
01:35.22 | funjon | it looks like adding 'nat=yes' fixed that |
01:35.26 | Cybertoy | funjon, all the stun server does is send you back your external ip address... |
01:35.42 | telephoneman | fujon: didn't you say the Asterisk server faces the Internet? |
01:35.42 | funjon | now i just need to get it to authenticate correctly |
01:35.58 | funjon | telephoneman: yes, repeatedly. |
01:36.09 | telephoneman | then you don't need a STUN server |
01:36.13 | funjon | i know that |
01:36.28 | funjon | as i just said, it is now using the correct ip |
01:36.33 | funjon | but still getting authentication failure |
01:36.53 | telephoneman | in sip.conf do you have qualify=yes and nat=yes? |
01:37.07 | funjon | the latter yes, the former no |
01:37.30 | telephoneman | you need qualify=yes to keep the NAT session open through your firewall |
01:37.55 | telephoneman | otherwise it will time out and you'll lose the registration |
01:38.00 | funjon | Aug 29 17:41:02 NOTICE[28514]: chan_sip.c:7733 handle_request: Registration from 'Jon's Desk <sip:1001@66.92.13.131>' failed for 'yy.yy.yy.yy' |
01:38.04 | funjon | this is what i'm getting |
01:38.11 | funjon | i'm never GETTING a successful registration |
01:38.14 | telephoneman | passwords? |
01:38.19 | telephoneman | user name? |
01:38.24 | funjon | triple checked |
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01:39.28 | dano | funjon: and did you remove md5 auth? |
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01:40.41 | funjon | yes |
01:40.50 | telephoneman | funjon: put 'auth=md5,plaintext,rsa' into sip.conf for now |
01:41.19 | dano | funjon: you have a bad line in your sip.conf...look above canreinvite |
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01:41.30 | funjon | dano: erf? |
01:41.31 | file | uh you can't change the auth method for SIP |
01:41.35 | file | silly telephoneman |
01:41.40 | funjon | heh |
01:41.44 | funjon | it works now |
01:42.04 | telephoneman | silly? silly? |
01:42.17 | rob804 | I heard him say "silly." |
01:42.18 | telephoneman | i *beg* your pardon |
01:42.20 | funjon | idano: -- Registered SIP '1001' at xxx.xx.xxx.xx port 4206 expires 3600 |
01:42.21 | funjon | <PROTECTED> |
01:43.15 | funjon | interesting, i changed the password from alpha to numeric |
01:43.17 | funjon | and now its happy |
01:43.42 | telephoneman | file: explain |
01:43.50 | file | explain what |
01:44.11 | telephoneman | "can't change auth method for SIP" |
01:44.18 | file | there's only one auth method for SIP |
01:44.30 | telephoneman | and? |
01:44.34 | file | and what |
01:44.40 | telephoneman | which is? |
01:44.41 | SwK | where's nugget |
01:44.43 | file | MD5 stuff |
01:45.06 | SwK | file: EXTREME! |
01:45.07 | Nugget | moo |
01:45.21 | SwK | Nugget: i just noticed your blog got /.'d |
01:45.25 | file | SwK: EXTREME!!!!!! |
01:45.33 | Nugget | Yeah, the feedback has been really great. |
01:45.54 | SwK | kool doubt they'll listen to it tho |
01:46.00 | bkw__ | asterisk leaks memory like mad |
01:46.01 | Nugget | can't hurt |
01:46.07 | bkw__ | this is fun to watch |
01:46.10 | SwK | bkw__: put a bucket under it |
01:46.41 | bkw__ | at this rate i'll need 5 gigs of ram to last a whole day without a restart |
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01:46.57 | telephoneman | bkw__: i know it's late, but can you listen to a Cepstral problem? |
01:47.03 | twisted | hah |
01:47.07 | twisted | ]my windows are leaking |
01:47.13 | bkw__ | twisted haha |
01:47.18 | twisted | i'm serious |
01:47.22 | bkw__ | i know you are |
01:47.25 | bkw__ | thats why i'm laffing |
01:47.26 | twisted | wind driven rain at 50+mph makes for window leakage |
01:47.31 | file | twisted: how is it there? |
01:47.59 | bkw__ | and tries to track this shiznit down |
01:48.09 | bkw__ | ya know chan_iax2 can die |
01:48.25 | file | die die die |
01:48.25 | dano | md5 http dgest |
01:49.14 | file | SIP authentication is great. honest. |
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01:49.38 | funjon | hmm, xlite appears to be shite. |
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02:01.03 | funjon | dammit. so i have a hardphone connected, but cant get the softphone to connect. ARGH. |
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02:04.21 | jaike | is there a way to make g729 the preferred codec? ive configured allow=g729 on iax.conf but calls coming in are still ulaw |
02:04.22 | Equinox | Anyone here use broadvoice? |
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02:04.52 | shido6 | disallow=a;; |
02:04.54 | shido6 | disallow=all |
02:04.57 | shido6 | allow=g729 |
02:06.15 | jaike | ok....ill try that |
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02:08.31 | hugo-v6 | debian-install under 10 minutes :)=) |
02:09.30 | hugo-v6 | time to get the remaining 2 1/2h of sleep. l8r pals |
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02:13.27 | tuxinator_linuxM | Equinox: I was thinking about using broadvoice. |
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02:14.23 | Nugget | xlite is not too bad. my only real complaint is their cornball "let's make it look exactly like a cellphone" configuration UI even down to the fact that a callphone UI is crap. |
02:14.39 | Nugget | they fix that in x-pro and eyebeam, much to my relief |
02:14.44 | _Kris_ | anyone know how to change the startup context of an established channel so that the transfer prompt (dial with t parameter) uses a different context than the one it originated from? |
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02:16.41 | jaike | after allowing only g729..i got these messages.. |
02:16.48 | jaike | Aug 29 18:34:08 NOTICE[3539]: Unable to find a path from gsm to g729 |
02:16.48 | jaike | Aug 29 18:34:08 WARNING[3539]: Unable to open queue-youarenext (format g729): No such file or directory |
02:16.59 | file | you don't have the g729 codec installed |
02:17.04 | _Kris_ | that's because you don't have g729 installed |
02:17.43 | jaike | i did....i installed as instructed after getting the license |
02:17.56 | file | if it says the message above, you don't |
02:18.32 | tuxinator_linuxM | jaike: Did you do that magic chant? |
02:18.55 | jaike | we bought 6 licenses for testing |
02:19.10 | jaike | used the register program i downloaded from digium |
02:19.30 | jaike | i think ill email support |
02:19.37 | file | and installed the .so for the codec in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules? |
02:19.41 | file | and made sure it's loaded? |
02:20.32 | jaike | its in modules but digium says itll be loaded upon asterisk restart |
02:20.43 | file | it should be, you need to make sure it was |
02:21.26 | file | show modules will show all loaded modules, or you can do "load codec_g729a.so" on the CLI and see if it loads it |
02:21.32 | file | if so, it wasn't loaded when asterisk started |
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02:23.24 | jaike | show modules shows its loaded....hmmm |
02:23.42 | jaike | brb..have to figure this out |
02:25.34 | newsmafia | nugget: On your site, I noticed you attempted to get a ZyXel wifi phone working, Any luck? |
02:26.07 | newsmafia | I'm wondering if it's worth it. |
02:26.39 | r0m | good evening |
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02:26.43 | jaike | i dont have to configure my ip phones to use g729 right? they stay using ulaw |
02:27.17 | zippp | newsmafia, what site is that |
02:27.22 | zippp | I just ordered one, would like to read |
02:28.03 | newsmafia | nugget's web site. slacker.com, he has a nice faq on asterisk. |
02:29.18 | fugitivo | nice legal section |
02:29.24 | shmaltz | what is CallingPres used for? |
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02:31.45 | SwK | newsmafia: thats cause nugget is old school super geek brainiac |
02:32.54 | Nugget | the zyxel is horrible. |
02:33.01 | Nugget | it works, sort of, but I never use it. |
02:33.15 | SwK | *yawn* |
02:34.05 | newsmafia | thats what I thought. I guess I'll go with a cordless phone into my zaptel card. |
02:34.13 | file | hail switch |
02:34.15 | file | er SwK |
02:34.20 | SwK | what up file |
02:34.24 | file | my mental powers are degrading! |
02:34.32 | file | not a thing. |
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02:35.59 | zippp | nugget, you tried the hitachi wifi phone? |
02:38.58 | newsmafia | nugget: btw, nice rant on jabber! I agree completely! Love jabber. |
02:39.11 | Nugget | no, but people in here speak highly of the hitachi phone |
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02:39.24 | mog_home | nugget ranting on jabber? |
02:39.27 | Nugget | newsmafia: thanks. I hope the rant does some good. |
02:40.03 | mog_home | whre |
02:40.05 | mog_home | where* |
02:40.19 | Nugget | mog: http://nugget.livejournal.com/97081.html (as seen on http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/29/1022242&tid=217&tid=215&tid=95&tid=218) |
02:41.40 | zippp | Nugget, so considering I ordered the zyxel about 2 hours ago, I should send an email saying I want the hitachi instead so it gets shipped tommorow? |
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02:44.23 | fugitivo | how much is the hitachi? |
02:44.44 | mog_home | yeah i saw it on slashdot |
02:44.49 | mog_home | didnt know it was you nugget |
02:46.01 | zippp | fugitivo, 319 |
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02:49.53 | funjon | dammit, now the phone wont auth anymore |
02:50.18 | shmaltz | how would I apply a .diff file to the asterisk source when the diff file is located at: /usr/src/vma.diff? |
02:51.17 | JunK-Y | shmaltz: patch -p0 < /usr/src/vma.diff |
02:51.42 | shmaltz | JunK-Y, thanks |
02:51.58 | zippp | or patch -d /wherever/asterisk/source/is /usr/src/vma.diff |
02:52.12 | SwK | http://retrospection.net/videofiles/hurricanekat.php |
02:52.18 | SwK | SFW |
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02:52.46 | twisted | SwK, |
02:52.50 | twisted | it should be outta here before 1am |
02:52.53 | SwK | twisted: |
02:52.54 | twisted | believe it or not |
02:52.59 | SwK | i believe it |
02:53.12 | SwK | the radar shows it falling apart in out area |
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02:54.04 | zippp | Nugget, did you have v1 or v2? |
02:54.11 | zippp | v2 is slimmer, updated |
02:54.12 | zippp | it says |
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02:59.39 | rob804 | Ok, I got through my first install. A bunch of error messages on the make -- pointers being out of whack. Anything I should be worried about? I got a success message on the end. I populated it with the samples, too. Now how do I start the thing? |
03:00.22 | litage | have many people used Asterisk on *BSD? |
03:00.28 | SwK | litage: yes |
03:00.34 | mog_home | 99% use linux |
03:00.36 | rob804 | Oh, it's running. I'm at the CLI. Cool. There's a web GUI, right? |
03:00.48 | fugitivo | rob804: you don't need it |
03:00.52 | SwK | rob804: voip-info.org is your friend |
03:01.01 | fugitivo | litage: me, openbsd without zaptel |
03:01.12 | funjon | hmm, weird |
03:01.18 | SwK | litage: freebsd, openbsd, and OSX for me w/out zaptel |
03:01.20 | funjon | anyone had any luck getting AMP installed? |
03:01.30 | rob804 | Aw, man... reading? Reading sucks. Alright, fine. I'll go read. ;) |
03:01.37 | litage | fugitivo, SwK: without zaptel for any particular reason? |
03:01.38 | fugitivo | funjon: you don't need it :) |
03:01.47 | SwK | litage: yeah lack of drivers |
03:01.52 | litage | ah |
03:01.58 | fugitivo | litage: doesn't work |
03:02.02 | funjon | fugitivo: I've been told it's helpful |
03:02.12 | litage | so that means you can't use any FXO/FXS/E1/etc cards in a *BSD box? |
03:02.16 | fugitivo | litage: i know some people using zaptel under freebsd |
03:02.35 | fugitivo | litage: i think zaptel works on freebsd |
03:02.50 | SwK | a very old version last i heard |
03:03.07 | SwK | i havent even bothered trying lately |
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03:04.05 | twisted | SwK, my ears just popped |
03:04.14 | twisted | did yours? |
03:05.23 | SwK | nope |
03:05.23 | shmaltz | wheres 1.2 up to? |
03:05.41 | SwK | hah the rock in the Doom Movie |
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03:06.43 | twisted | SwK, 996? |
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03:10.56 | Insanity5 | Can anyone help me track down a mysterious problem? Basically, every 5 calls, one isnt' connected. I'm connecting to nufone over IAX. |
03:11.09 | Insanity5 | Is there anything I can do to see if I'm getting any traffic related to these calls? |
03:14.11 | jaike | insanity: nufone might be limiting simultaneous calls |
03:14.23 | jaike | voicepulse limits inbound to 5 simul |
03:14.59 | Insanity5 | jaike - It's an 800 # per minute, so I doubt they care. |
03:15.05 | Insanity5 | jaike - Plus, I only have one :) |
03:17.04 | Ferris_B | Could sure use some help :) Ive got 2 * boxes talking to each other as friends over IAX. Server 1 is hardwired to 3 sip hardphones, server 2 hosts the iax softphones. SOMETIMES, seemingly on its own accord, the iax softphone on server 2 can ring the sip phones on server 1 via a shared dial plan. However, most of the time any extension I dial hosted on server 1 will not connect to IAX, the softphone will ring itself! I have copies of co |
03:18.16 | shido6 | no |
03:18.21 | shido6 | we do NOT limit simultaneous calls |
03:18.27 | shido6 | your local bandwidth does that |
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03:18.32 | shido6 | whats the problem? |
03:18.34 | Insanity5 | shido6 - Are you with nufone? |
03:18.38 | shido6 | do you have any debug info |
03:18.43 | shido6 | yes, Insanity5 |
03:18.52 | Insanity5 | shido6 - Nothing that I can say for sure is nufone |
03:19.04 | Insanity5 | I have an 800 # - 866-249-2403 (you can call it... just demo recording) |
03:19.09 | shido6 | bring it to #nufone |
03:19.13 | Insanity5 | one in every 5 calls goes unanswered |
03:19.14 | Insanity5 | ok |
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03:39.06 | funjon | hmm, whoops |
03:39.17 | funjon | it would appear that my asterisk box has started answering the pots line |
03:39.20 | funjon | this is... unfortunate. :p |
03:41.54 | Insanity5 | hehe |
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03:45.49 | jaike | got a question again..if i only allow g729 and disallow the rest in iax.conf.. calls come in as g729..but i still need ulaw because my asterisk box connects to another provider that uses only ulaw |
03:46.19 | Connor | Is there any major benifit in storing voicemail's in a database rather than a file system? |
03:46.28 | jaike | putting back allow=ulaw reverts all calls back to ulaw |
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03:47.17 | websae | hey everyone |
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03:47.53 | websae | im curious if anyone in here is using broadvoice with their asterisk box? |
03:49.21 | loud | many people do. |
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03:52.48 | websae | do you loud? |
03:52.53 | websae | loud: do you use broadvoice? |
03:53.30 | loud | i do yes, and yes im experiencing incoming problems too. |
03:53.34 | websae | i keep getting this error msg 'SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized ' with broadvoice |
03:53.42 | loud | oh i passed that already |
03:54.05 | websae | how so? |
03:54.08 | loud | now incoming is the problem, and support always points its finger at asterisk. |
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03:54.47 | fugitivo | is it something new? |
03:54.58 | loud | i guess, they move servers all the time. |
03:54.59 | fugitivo | i used broadvoice 1 or 2 months ago without problems |
03:55.10 | fugitivo | hmm |
03:55.15 | loud | they are good, but you have to keep a close eye to them. |
03:55.28 | fugitivo | it wasn't too good for me |
03:55.41 | websae | wasn't too good for you? |
03:55.42 | fugitivo | us calls were great, but international were too laggy |
03:55.43 | websae | what do you mean? |
03:55.51 | websae | yeah i just need it for U.S. calls |
03:55.57 | websae | i hope it works okay for that |
03:56.09 | loud | i have no problems on outgoing international |
03:56.23 | fugitivo | i liked because they have a plan for 35 countries unlimited |
03:56.25 | *** part/#asterisk Cresl1n (n=Cresl1n@digium.com) |
03:56.41 | loud | my gf makes 2,3 hrs phone calls to brazil, argentina, no problems. |
03:56.47 | fugitivo | hmm |
03:56.51 | fugitivo | i'm in argentina |
03:56.51 | loud | i <3 bv. |
03:57.10 | loud | sorry |
03:57.11 | fugitivo | calls from argentina to argentina were lagged |
03:57.19 | maxx_ | who is the best international IAX provider? |
03:57.26 | loud | its because any .ar isp gets like 100+ms to bv |
03:57.43 | fugitivo | yes, but that should be fine |
03:57.48 | loud | i get like 9ms to any east/west coast. |
03:57.58 | loud | same as voipjet, which is great. |
03:58.25 | fugitivo | 9ms, that's nice :) |
03:59.15 | loud | una masa :) |
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04:01.08 | websae | yeah broadvoice is a pain to setup |
04:01.12 | websae | they only support SIP |
04:01.24 | fugitivo | lol |
04:01.47 | fugitivo | loud: are you from argentina? :) |
04:02.12 | Insanity5 | Can anyone help me track down a mysterious problem? Basically, every 5 calls, one isnt' connected. I'm connecting to nufone over IAX. |
04:02.18 | Insanity5 | Is there anything I can do to see if I'm getting any traffic related to these calls? |
04:02.28 | NewSole | loud: where are u from |
04:02.32 | loud | yes, i am |
04:03.18 | fugitivo | loud: you live here? |
04:03.22 | loud | no, us |
04:03.32 | fugitivo | where? |
04:03.48 | loud | sd, clai |
04:03.49 | loud | cali |
04:06.24 | fugitivo | what are you doing there? |
04:06.48 | bluesky | hi, i'm getting this error when making zaptel: make: *** SUBDIRS=/usr/src/zaptel: No such file or directory. Stop. |
04:07.22 | bluesky | any clue? i'm doing make clean, make config, make linux26, make install |
04:07.32 | jaike | bluesky: compile zaptel in /usr/src/zaptel |
04:07.57 | bluesky | jaike: that's where i'm in |
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04:09.04 | bluesky | also getting: make -C SUBDIRS=/usr/src/zaptel modules |
04:09.52 | jaike | the folder might still be zaptel-1.0.9..did u rename it after extracting? |
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04:11.09 | masked | hi i've just setup a basic asterisk and the sound is very choppy with the gsm codec, what would be the problem? |
04:11.13 | bluesky | no, i checked out from cvs |
04:11.28 | *** join/#asterisk pressure_man (n=pressure@ip-202-37-228-1.internet.co.nz) |
04:11.40 | pressure_man | question re ARA extensions: |
04:11.59 | pressure_man | if the order of the dialplan matters, how is this represented in an SQL table under ARA? |
04:12.23 | Nugget | in a very ugly manner. :) |
04:12.42 | pressure_man | the DB schema in ARA ain't too hot, is it? |
04:13.03 | pressure_man | ie, whoever designed it needs to take a class on database normalization |
04:13.28 | brookshire | make patches? |
04:13.41 | pressure_man | yikes |
04:13.51 | pressure_man | that would be a huge patch |
04:14.03 | brookshire | exactly.. then don't complain :) |
04:14.05 | bluesky | jaike: should i remove previous folders? where are they? |
04:14.13 | pressure_man | i'd more likely start the ARA architecture from scratch |
04:14.32 | pressure_man | a schema that made use of foreign keys to keep things in check |
04:14.38 | Nugget | blame mysql. |
04:14.48 | Nugget | it's raised a whole generation of people who think they know how databases work |
04:14.54 | Nugget | (but really don't) |
04:14.55 | Darwin35 | wow |
04:15.02 | brookshire | wow.. who cares |
04:15.05 | Darwin35 | I think I am going to change professions |
04:15.14 | fugitivo | mysql is not a real database |
04:15.14 | twisted | brookshire, you bkac in thown? |
04:15.16 | pressure_man | damn, even ms access supported foreign keys 10 years ago |
04:15.17 | twisted | -h |
04:15.39 | Darwin35 | I just got a email from BNSF |
04:15.44 | Netgeeks | fugitivo: lol, I was thinking on no, here we go again |
04:16.03 | fugitivo | Netgeeks: i'm not here, i'm hidden |
04:16.10 | Darwin35 | they are looking for a JR comm tech and dispatch trainee |
04:16.33 | pressure_man | do contexts have any meaning for a peer? |
04:16.57 | Darwin35 | and since I like trains I think it would be fun |
04:17.03 | Nugget | trains rock |
04:17.07 | bkw__ | twisted has no power |
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04:17.19 | brookshire | haha.. twisted.. did you just feel that? |
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04:17.29 | brookshire | and yes |
04:17.32 | twisted | brookshire, feel what? |
04:17.33 | brookshire | i am back |
04:17.37 | brookshire | that power spike |
04:17.37 | twisted | i just lost power |
04:17.38 | brookshire | lol |
04:17.38 | Darwin35 | they must in in the hurricain path |
04:17.44 | twisted | it came back though |
04:17.46 | brookshire | yeah |
04:17.50 | brookshire | it rebooted the markocam |
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04:18.02 | twisted | lol |
04:18.05 | twisted | i don't have TV anymore |
04:18.09 | twisted | i think it zapped my cable box |
04:18.20 | fugitivo | twisted: that's good, no tv |
04:18.30 | Darwin35 | it takes 1 min for most cable boxes that are digital to reset |
04:18.32 | twisted | lol |
04:18.32 | brookshire | tv rots your brain |
04:18.39 | twisted | Darwin - yeah, it just reset |
04:18.45 | fugitivo | no tv == more productivity |
04:18.58 | twisted | productivity... hah |
04:18.58 | brookshire | twisted hasn't been productive in years |
04:18.59 | file | lies, all lies! |
04:19.00 | brookshire | HAHAH |
04:19.12 | twisted | BULLSHIT |
04:19.12 | twisted | i have too been productive |
04:19.12 | fugitivo | lol |
04:19.13 | Darwin35 | man I just wish there was a unix based train emulator |
04:19.13 | twisted | i produced YOU didn't i? |
04:19.18 | brookshire | productive at scoring chicks ;) |
04:19.36 | brookshire | see.. you can't be a geek and have a gf.. that just doesn't work |
04:19.40 | file | brookshire: Mattttttttttt |
04:19.40 | newsmafia | Darwin35: Would you be "comm" as in working w/ radio? |
04:19.43 | masked | Darwin35, rainroad tycoon + winex ? |
04:19.46 | brookshire | hi file |
04:19.46 | twisted | brookshire, sure it does |
04:19.49 | twisted | as long as she's a geek too |
04:19.50 | file | hi brookshire |
04:19.58 | brookshire | hah |
04:20.03 | masked | rail* |
04:20.38 | fugitivo | nono |
04:20.38 | fugitivo | no gf == more productivity |
04:20.39 | Darwin35 | no like MS train emu |
04:20.40 | brookshire | ok ok.. |
04:20.40 | twisted | brookshire, markocam is blank |
04:20.40 | Darwin35 | winx |
04:20.40 | fugitivo | vmware |
04:20.54 | Darwin35 | might have to do vmware |
04:20.57 | brookshire | twisted: and you think i lied? |
04:21.08 | brookshire | i just saw mark's computer reboot |
04:21.10 | twisted | brookshire, lol |
04:21.10 | brookshire | he's crying now |
04:21.14 | twisted | i can see mark |
04:21.14 | brookshire | because his ups failed |
04:21.15 | brookshire | lol |
04:21.22 | twisted | my ups's worked great |
04:21.27 | twisted | my power was out for a good 15 seconds |
04:21.35 | twisted | i was still talking on conf and chatting on irc :P |
04:21.43 | newsmafia | oh, ok. cool stuff. I love trains too. I'm in the news gathering business and we sometimes listen to rail freqs |
04:21.43 | file | twisted: geek. |
04:21.47 | twisted | file, yeah. |
04:21.54 | file | I live on the edge, no UPS for me |
04:21.55 | twisted | only a geek would be doing what i'm doing in this kinda weather |
04:22.13 | brookshire | i have a built in ups on my laptop |
04:22.14 | brookshire | :D |
04:22.19 | brookshire | anyways.. g2g |
04:22.21 | brookshire | work to do |
04:23.02 | twisted | brookshire, don't go home yet |
04:23.10 | fugitivo | i like trains, i hate planes |
04:23.11 | twisted | the rain is supposed to stop soon, and the winds will die back down |
04:23.13 | twisted | ;) |
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04:24.57 | Darwin35 | yeah but the presiadent wants to do away with amtrak |
04:25.01 | Darwin35 | what a jerk |
04:25.20 | twisted | lol |
04:25.22 | Nugget | I like the idea of amtrak a lot more than I like the reality of amtrak. |
04:25.24 | Darwin35 | no amtrak means busses and plains |
04:25.25 | twisted | for a minute i thought you said adtran |
04:25.32 | brookshire | awh.. the robot rebooted too |
04:25.55 | newsmafia | that sucks, I know! He's in town today as a matter of fact! (san diego) |
04:26.01 | Darwin35 | I need to get this quickcam working |
04:26.08 | Nugget | I think that the US is just too damn big to make passenger trains practical. |
04:26.10 | Darwin35 | sorry man |
04:26.12 | fugitivo | what is amtrak? it seems a name of a biological weapon |
04:26.24 | pygrammer | for SetCallerID, is the format SetCallerID("NAME" <NUMBER>) ?? |
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04:26.27 | Darwin35 | no they need to work on making magrail real |
04:26.28 | Nugget | amtrak is the us quasi-nationalized passenger train system |
04:26.39 | brookshire | Nugget: i think it's more practical if they have one going from like city to city |
04:26.39 | twisted | pygrammer, yes, caps optional. |
04:26.47 | fugitivo | do the us have trains? |
04:26.53 | pygrammer | twisted: that was simply for ease of readibility |
04:26.54 | pygrammer | (sp) |
04:26.57 | Darwin35 | they need to work on high speed trains |
04:26.59 | Nugget | yes, but not in any meaningful way. |
04:27.03 | brookshire | caltrain? |
04:27.07 | Darwin35 | like the one from dc to ny |
04:27.16 | Darwin35 | electrorail |
04:27.17 | brookshire | oh that's the best one |
04:27.19 | Nugget | amtrak exists as a national train system, but it sucks and nobody rides it unless they have absolutely no other choice. |
04:27.22 | Darwin35 | bullet train |
04:27.23 | Nugget | it's slow and ucky |
04:27.25 | fugitivo | i like the disney train |
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04:27.39 | brookshire | caltrain is nice |
04:27.43 | brookshire | and lots of people ride it |
04:27.45 | Darwin35 | I like the time it takes makes you sit back and relax |
04:27.45 | newsmafia | I take the train from San Diego to LA all the time, only a handful of people on board. |
04:27.48 | kkrizka | hi, what is the best web gui that you would suggest? |
04:28.04 | Darwin35 | it is faster then the buss and slower then the plains |
04:28.07 | fugitivo | kkrizka: none |
04:28.10 | Nugget | kkrizka: none. |
04:28.13 | fugitivo | lol |
04:28.16 | Darwin35 | but over priced for what you get I agree |
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04:28.51 | Darwin35 | but I like the fact you see the world and not stuck in a buss with screaming children |
04:28.59 | fugitivo | Darwin35: which one? |
04:29.03 | Darwin35 | and smelly people |
04:29.09 | Darwin35 | gayhound |
04:29.17 | Darwin35 | sucks |
04:29.30 | fugitivo | you have to try argentinian "linea mitre" train |
04:29.40 | Darwin35 | and on a train you can getup and walk around |
04:29.41 | Nugget | I've taken the shinkansen in japan, the tgv in france, and countless eurail trains around europe and I really wish there was an equivalent system here in the states. |
04:29.48 | Nugget | but I just don't think it's practical to build one |
04:29.55 | criptos | Any one using Ata over ethernet AOE devices over here? :) |
04:29.58 | Darwin35 | I love eurorail |
04:29.59 | newsmafia | I was thinking about taking to the midwest this summer. It would be cheaper to fly to europe and back |
04:30.07 | Darwin35 | had a blast trvling on it |
04:30.12 | newsmafia | not like the ICE in Germany! |
04:30.27 | maxx_ | rail is very important and under utilized for freight. there are simply too many trucks on teh road in the US |
04:30.38 | Nugget | that's true |
04:30.52 | Darwin35 | Amtrak needs to sit down and retrack it self for better service |
04:31.05 | Darwin35 | and yes split it up into regions |
04:31.07 | bkw__ | like that is easy |
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04:31.09 | mishehu | you mean Uhm... Track? |
04:31.20 | criptos | You should take the "tequila train". From Guadalajra, to Tequila town. TEquila open bar all the way, you get to tequila town, learn about the process of picking up tequila (la jima), how tequila is produced, and YES, you get a lot of FREE TEQUILA SAMPLES :) |
04:31.29 | criptos | This is a helluva trip :) |
04:31.32 | newsmafia | maybe letting them fend for themselves will make them profitable, and have better service. |
04:31.40 | brookshire | maxx_: japana uses the US rail all the time to ship to the UK :) |
04:31.41 | mishehu | guadalajara... hah, vadi al chara |
04:31.41 | fugitivo | criptos: i like that train |
04:31.51 | mishehu | the shit river |
04:31.57 | criptos | I like it tu fugitivo :) |
04:31.59 | brookshire | japan also |
04:31.59 | brookshire | haha |
04:32.02 | fugitivo | why #asterisk is a chat about trains? |
04:32.10 | brookshire | because trains are rad |
04:32.15 | Darwin35 | if they split it into regions then they could afford it better |
04:32.16 | brookshire | i <3 trains |
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04:32.31 | Darwin35 | just a change of topic for a bit |
04:32.36 | Darwin35 | its late at night |
04:32.42 | fugitivo | yeah, trains |
04:32.45 | Nugget | I could start bitching about mysql again if you guys are sick of trains. :) |
04:32.48 | criptos | Yesterday was about sex and documentation, and the even before, there was a holy war about gpl or not gpl * contributed code :) |
04:32.50 | fugitivo | and a glass of whiskey |
04:33.07 | Nugget | dang, I missed a gpl argument? |
04:33.10 | brookshire | so who wants to write some documentation? :) |
04:33.14 | fugitivo | Nugget: mysql is not a real database |
04:33.36 | brookshire | fugitivo: sure it is |
04:33.38 | criptos | So, today will have a mysql making love to a train who is documented as gpl? |
04:33.50 | Darwin35 | fug documentation on * will take 5 years aslong as its still in major growth |
04:33.52 | newsmafia | lol! |
04:34.02 | stevech | sex + documentation = porno flick? |
04:34.07 | Darwin35 | its hard to document when things change o fast |
04:34.11 | brookshire | documented sex? |
04:34.19 | criptos | sex + documentation is something a geek never know... |
04:34.21 | Darwin35 | ex |
04:34.25 | fugitivo | brookshire: i was going to ask the same question |
04:34.28 | Darwin35 | ~sex |
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04:34.38 | bluesky | i have to place a shortcut to the kernel directory for zaptel to install properly, right? |
04:34.40 | Darwin35 | there its documented |
04:34.54 | fugitivo | criptos: sex documented by a geek, that's possible |
04:35.27 | brookshire | someone should write an o'riley book on it |
04:35.33 | fugitivo | criptos: uml sex design |
04:35.36 | Darwin35 | but I do not think they should do away with amtrak |
04:35.47 | criptos | And what should be the animal for a o'riley book of sex? |
04:35.48 | stevech | I don't think I've seen a "Sex for Dummies" book. |
04:35.52 | brookshire | i wonder what the animal on the front cover would be |
04:36.02 | fugitivo | when i read amtrak i remember antrax |
04:36.04 | Darwin35 | just cut back what is not really needed and have 2 e to w coridoors |
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04:36.20 | Darwin35 | a pig |
04:36.25 | brookshire | that's hot |
04:36.26 | Darwin35 | and you |
04:36.29 | fugitivo | lol |
04:36.30 | brookshire | and dirty, hehe |
04:36.33 | criptos | ha ha ha... |
04:36.35 | newsmafia | Darwin35: I agree, it would be sad :( |
04:36.48 | fugitivo | nonono |
04:36.50 | fugitivo | a rabbit |
04:36.53 | fugitivo | that's better |
04:37.08 | Darwin35 | no pig because they get down and dirty |
04:37.11 | criptos | a donkey? maybe .. |
04:37.12 | Darwin35 | lol |
04:37.19 | brookshire | gerbil for the S&M |
04:37.21 | brookshire | book |
04:37.21 | criptos | actually pigs have 1 hour orgasm... |
04:37.26 | Darwin35 | no they just make an ass of themselvels |
04:37.30 | fugitivo | cows have 10 sec orgasm |
04:37.58 | criptos | and women fake orgasm... isn´t nice to be human? |
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04:38.12 | Darwin35 | men do to |
04:38.21 | Ferris_1 | I'm using 3 Budgetone 100 sip hardphones attached to an asterisk box physically, which shares a dialplan with another server on the internet via IAX. I can make calls to my voip provider from both asterisk boxes (via the extenion on server 2) and can call any sip phone from any other sip phone, but only intermitantly can I dial from server2 to extensions on server 1. Usually, the softphone I use to try and call the sip phones will ring |
04:38.31 | fugitivo | Ferris_1: off topic dude |
04:38.46 | fugitivo | Ferris_1: we're talking about trains and sex with pigs |
04:38.52 | Ferris_1 | I love both! |
04:38.57 | Darwin35 | yeah asterisk = train + sex tonight |
04:39.15 | Darwin35 | eww sex on trains is fun to |
04:39.15 | criptos | Ah, feris forgot to say, that the sistem is installed in a train dedicated to transport pigs ready for sex! |
04:39.24 | Ferris_1 | are they 1 hour trips? |
04:39.30 | fugitivo | Ferris_1: i can't read anything you typed |
04:39.38 | Ferris_1 | or like, 1 hr plus 15 initial mintes to get the pig off? |
04:39.45 | Darwin35 | lol |
04:39.47 | criptos | Haven´t done that yet.. |
04:39.48 | criptos | lol |
04:39.56 | newsmafia | lol |
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04:40.13 | s34n | How is the 1.2 beta looking? |
04:40.16 | websae | how's everyone doing? |
04:40.31 | criptos | Ferris_1: the dialplan is common? I usually route calls beween * using pattern matching... |
04:40.31 | Ferris_1 | websae, my compuer is enchanted by black witch magic |
04:40.35 | Ferris_1 | other than that, I'm greate |
04:40.47 | Darwin35 | we are have hot pig train sex . thansk and you |
04:41.12 | criptos | Ferris_1 do you have an egg at hand? We can try some iirc vudu on your computer, got any picture of it? |
04:41.16 | Ferris_1 | common in what sense? I apologize if that's an asterisk term I don't know, I'm sort of teaching myself this all of the sudden for work |
04:41.29 | websae | good lol |
04:41.29 | Ferris_1 | I've got its urine, that cool? |
04:41.45 | fugitivo | i can't read anything |
04:41.47 | fugitivo | damn whiskey |
04:41.50 | criptos | No no, urine are for medical purpouses... |
04:42.08 | Ferris_1 | http://www.geekatopia.com/asterisk/ <-- here's a link to the iax, sip, and extensions for both machines |
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04:42.17 | Ferris_1 | plus a handy dandy network diagram (thank you MSPaint!) |
04:42.23 | fugitivo | geekatoia |
04:42.34 | fugitivo | pia |
04:42.37 | Ferris_1 | heh |
04:42.48 | *** part/#asterisk Gronker__ (n=Gronker2@adsl-220-86-7.ags.bellsouth.net) |
04:42.54 | Ferris_1 | yeah, that's what my apartment has been chrissened (christened?) |
04:43.04 | Piranha- | damn it sucks when you lose a 250gig hard drive to failure |
04:43.13 | Ferris_1 | ouch |
04:43.16 | Darwin35 | ouch |
04:43.26 | Darwin35 | even more when its sata |
04:43.27 | fugitivo | ouch |
04:43.33 | Legend | ouch |
04:43.35 | Ferris_1 | yay! |
04:43.37 | Ferris_1 | no wait, ouch |
04:44.30 | fugitivo | what happened to the trains? |
04:44.38 | fugitivo | and the igs |
04:44.39 | fugitivo | pigs |
04:44.48 | Piranha- | haha darwin, how would sata make a diff ;) |
04:44.50 | Ferris_1 | so I was fucking this pig on a train, when... |
04:44.51 | Darwin35 | we have to cross that track when we get to it |
04:45.08 | criptos | ferris_i look at your iax files, I suggests that register geek to paragon and registar algo paragon to geek... |
04:45.18 | Piranha- | actually I was very fortuneate... the drive was giving me some issues so I backed everything up and reformatted... then restored. but luckily I kept it all on my backup drives |
04:45.31 | Ferris_1 | as peers and users individually, criptos? |
04:45.33 | Darwin35 | good |
04:45.40 | Ferris_1 | type=peer, then type=user ? |
04:45.42 | criptos | and for patter matching, iax no longer uses context at the dial string, context |
04:45.46 | criptos | ferrus_1 as peer... |
04:46.00 | criptos | context of iax peers is handled at iax.conf ... |
04:46.09 | Darwin35 | man hot pig sex on a trian sounds like fun |
04:46.24 | Darwin35 | next time tie him to the rails |
04:46.32 | Darwin35 | tie |
04:46.40 | Darwin35 | lol |
04:47.06 | Ferris_1 | Is there a site with examples of how this should look? I'm afraid after staring at this for 3 days, I'm stuck in my bad habits, not sure what best practice even looks like |
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04:47.26 | Darwin35 | ok bed time for this unix junkie |
04:47.33 | Ferris_1 | night pig fucker! |
04:47.46 | Nugget | ~darwin> & |
04:47.47 | Nugget | :) |
04:47.50 | s34n | any reports back fro 1.2 beta sites? |
04:48.02 | fugitivo | sss |
04:48.19 | Darwin35 | 1.2 works great |
04:48.19 | criptos | Mine installation working just fine :) |
04:48.27 | fugitivo | aaaasaa |
04:48.38 | Darwin35 | no issues |
04:48.50 | Darwin35 | now make full release and lock it |
04:48.54 | Ferris_1 | so criptos, type=peer in both iax.confs, only peer? |
04:48.57 | Darwin35 | for 6 months |
04:49.07 | criptos | <PROTECTED> |
04:49.21 | Ferris_1 | do it. |
04:49.24 | Ferris_1 | you know you want to |
04:49.27 | pygrammer | i do |
04:49.29 | pygrammer | but i have like no money |
04:49.36 | pygrammer | this would be like a significant portion of my life savings |
04:49.41 | Ferris_1 | sup fellow broke buddy |
04:49.45 | Nugget | if you buy one off ebay you can expect to spend a solid month trying to convince someone to sell you the support contract. |
04:49.58 | Nugget | the whole time the phone will sit on your desk with the callmanager firmware and taunt you |
04:50.17 | pygrammer | Nugget: so, you're saying i shouldn't buy one on ebay? |
04:50.18 | fugitivo | $259 is nothing, do it |
04:50.35 | Nugget | I did. It's frustrating, but cheaper that way. |
04:50.49 | Nugget | buying the support contract on a single, used phone can be a total hemmorhoid |
04:50.51 | pygrammer | problem is, it's used and comes with no power cube |
04:51.04 | Nugget | the power cubes are easy to find online. $20 or so |
04:51.05 | fugitivo | that sucks |
04:51.19 | pygrammer | so it would be like $2798 |
04:51.21 | pygrammer | $279 |
04:51.33 | pygrammer | whereas the new one is $334.95 with a cube |
04:51.34 | fugitivo | pygrammer: god, one more digi |
04:51.35 | fugitivo | t |
04:51.48 | pygrammer | with suppor |
04:51.49 | pygrammer | t |
04:52.21 | Ferris_1 | it's refreshing to see this channel so active, hard to find fellow phone nerds IRL |
04:52.55 | pygrammer | haha |
04:53.01 | newsmafia | some people sell sip enabled phones on ebay. I took me weeks to get sip working on my cisco |
04:53.13 | pygrammer | btw Nugget why would you want a support contract? |
04:53.28 | Nugget | yeah, if you're new to cisco it's totally worth buying one from a vendor that can help and will ship it with support and sip loaded. |
04:53.30 | pygrammer | you mean warranty? |
04:53.42 | pygrammer | i'm smart enough to configure a freakin' phone |
04:53.50 | Nugget | you need a support contract in order to obtain the sip firmware you need to make it work with asterisk. |
04:53.59 | pygrammer | really. |
04:54.02 | Nugget | the phones ship with the wrong firmware |
04:54.14 | pygrammer | if i bought it from voipsupply, would i get that? http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_107&products_id=356 |
04:54.21 | Nugget | ask them. they probably sell it both ways |
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04:55.05 | s34n | pygrammer: just by a polycom new |
04:55.14 | s34n | for less $$ |
04:55.33 | pygrammer | yeah |
04:55.38 | pygrammer | probably smarter, considering my finances |
04:55.39 | pygrammer | :) |
04:55.51 | fugitivo | avaya released a nice phone, with xml support like cisco |
04:56.01 | pygrammer | i just hate losing money :( seeing my bank balance go down :-D |
04:56.16 | fugitivo | pygrammer: thanks god you have a bank balance |
04:56.18 | s34n | pygrammer: under $200 for very nice phone |
04:56.27 | pygrammer | fugitivo: not much of one |
04:56.44 | pygrammer | which one |
04:56.51 | apardo | some twinkle (kde softphone) screenshots: http://people.sysnetworks.net/apardo/voip/twinkle/index.html |
04:56.52 | pygrammer | soundpoint 500? |
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04:57.31 | pygrammer | i got my check card today from my bank, so i'm going all out ordering things :) |
04:57.58 | file[laptop] | oh no, not spending money! |
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04:58.48 | s34n | pygrammer: get the 501 |
04:59.19 | pygrammer | bah |
04:59.24 | s34n | it compares very well to Cisco |
04:59.24 | pygrammer | can't they even make it look halfway-decent? |
04:59.28 | pygrammer | the 7960 looks sleek and great |
04:59.47 | pygrammer | the soundpoint looks rather clunky |
05:00.25 | pygrammer | s34n: do you have it? |
05:00.27 | s34n | pygrammer: it uses very well |
05:00.36 | s34n | I don't have one :) |
05:00.53 | s34n | But they come highly recommended from power users |
05:00.55 | pygrammer | what do you use? |
05:01.09 | bluesky | how can i remove a soft link (ln)? linked to the wrong kernel for zaptel... |
05:01.14 | s34n | walmart $5.99 special |
05:01.23 | pygrammer | s34n: ? |
05:01.27 | fugitivo | bluesky: rm -rf link |
05:01.42 | s34n | pygrammer: the cheapest analog phone I can find |
05:02.01 | pygrammer | so you use a sipura adapter or like? or a FXS card? |
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05:02.21 | s34n | pygrammer: I have channel banks coming out my ears. |
05:02.30 | s34n | discarded equipment |
05:02.32 | twisted | that must hurt |
05:02.41 | s34n | usually |
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05:02.51 | twisted | MikeJ[Laptop], !! |
05:03.01 | s34n | but cheapo's like me put up with pain |
05:03.03 | bluesky | fugitivo: still getting ln: `/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667smp/build': File exists |
05:03.23 | fugitivo | bluesky: what are you doing? |
05:03.29 | bluesky | while trying: ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-1.1376_FC3 /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build |
05:03.43 | bluesky | trying to install zaptel... i'm getting an error during make |
05:03.56 | fugitivo | bluesky: sorry, i'm drunk, can't help you |
05:04.01 | s34n | pygrammer: ask around. polycom scores up with Cisco as two best brands |
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05:04.38 | fugitivo | avaya relased a nice phone, 7960 like |
05:05.06 | fugitivo | von magazine, july |
05:05.07 | pygrammer | fugitivo: available on voipsupply? |
05:05.16 | bluesky | so, where can i get support to get my digium card running again, now? |
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05:07.47 | pygrammer | anyone used grandstream phones? |
05:07.50 | pygrammer | really cheap |
05:07.54 | pygrammer | GXP-2000 |
05:07.58 | s34n | fugitivo: avaya likes to play the "Buy our complete system" business |
05:08.07 | pygrammer | looks ok |
05:08.21 | pygrammer | asterisk tested |
05:08.38 | pygrammer | ksupports pretty much everything |
05:09.09 | twisted | wheee |
05:09.14 | twisted | katrina will be gone soon |
05:09.22 | s34n | pygrammer: they are really cheap.... |
05:09.36 | pygrammer | $109.95 |
05:09.49 | pygrammer | at least for my first hardphone ... |
05:09.57 | s34n | pygrammer: how much will you use this phone? |
05:10.05 | pygrammer | s34n: really hard to say |
05:10.18 | s34n | then, not much |
05:10.21 | pygrammer | i don't have a business really (yet), and because i don't have adequate equipment now, it's really hard to use my existing system |
05:10.22 | fugitivo | pygrammer: buy what you want, just don't but the atcom 320 |
05:10.34 | fugitivo | but |
05:10.35 | fugitivo | bu |
05:10.36 | fugitivo | y |
05:10.37 | fugitivo | damn |
05:10.39 | fugitivo | buy |
05:10.47 | pygrammer | i just have a crappy labtech $10 desktop mic and speakesr |
05:10.49 | pygrammer | *speakers |
05:10.57 | pygrammer | so there's a ton of echo |
05:11.01 | pygrammer | and other distortion/shit |
05:11.05 | pygrammer | no one will talk to me on it :D |
05:11.09 | s34n | pygrammer: if money is main concern, get grandstream 101 |
05:11.16 | pygrammer | it's not main concern |
05:11.23 | pygrammer | i want a good phone for a reasonable price |
05:11.40 | pygrammer | but i think a 7960, however much it looks nice and would last me a while to come, is a bit beyond my means |
05:11.58 | pygrammer | i just got fired on friday, which is sort of bad ... |
05:12.12 | s34n | 7960 is a nice phone. no argument. it's just expensive |
05:12.18 | pygrammer | s34n: agreed |
05:12.27 | pygrammer | although my being fired was just in time for school :D |
05:12.34 | s34n | polycoms are equally nice, less expensive. |
05:12.39 | pygrammer | perfect timing, i suppose, if you could call it that |
05:12.50 | pygrammer | what about grandstreams? |
05:12.52 | s34n | grandstream are much less expensive, considerably less nice |
05:13.15 | fugitivo | well |
05:13.20 | s34n | grandstreams are ok, though |
05:13.30 | twisted | oh joy |
05:13.35 | twisted | power go nutso |
05:13.45 | MikeJ[Laptop] | rainy? |
05:13.48 | twisted | MikeJ[Laptop], 996 |
05:13.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah |
05:13.54 | s34n | pygrammer: if you live on the phone, there's a big difference between ok and nice |
05:13.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | one sec |
05:14.00 | pygrammer | s34n: true |
05:14.02 | pygrammer | i don't |
05:14.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | twisted, and yes, I saw it.. |
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05:14.16 | pygrammer | but if i started to talk a lot on it, i'd have wasted $100+ |
05:14.17 | twisted | MikeJ[Laptop], saw what? |
05:14.41 | s34n | pygrammer: grandstream 101 runs <$60 |
05:14.57 | s34n | if you don't like it, polycom 501 for <$200 |
05:15.09 | JerJer | The Barbietone |
05:15.25 | s34n | total < $260 gives you two new phones for the price of a used, unsupported Cisco |
05:15.39 | fugitivo | cisco is evil |
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05:16.14 | pygrammer | so wait, s34n i'm still unclear as to what phone you personally use |
05:16.17 | pygrammer | what model is it? |
05:16.32 | s34n | pygrammer: ebay your grandstream for $40 if it doesn't work out. |
05:17.00 | s34n | pygrammer: I use an analog phone. |
05:17.06 | pygrammer | what kind/model? |
05:17.20 | s34n | don't know, don't care. |
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05:17.33 | s34n | most of the day, I use a nice Nortel office phone |
05:17.49 | pygrammer | ah, at work? |
05:17.49 | criptos | any one here has configured an alcatel fast ip phone? |
05:18.02 | pygrammer | s34n: and does your analog phone have caller id or anything? |
05:18.05 | s34n | just like the Aastra 9133 |
05:18.28 | s34n | pygrammer: yes. it is a key system phone |
05:19.01 | s34n | pygrammer: I don't care much for it. |
05:19.37 | pygrammer | ah |
05:19.39 | pygrammer | hmm |
05:19.41 | s34n | I replace it with a headset |
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05:19.49 | pygrammer | yep |
05:19.53 | fugitivo | pygrammer: I use a linksys pap2-na with a siemens cordless phone |
05:20.16 | shido6 | i love the pap2 |
05:20.38 | fugitivo | pygrammer: the pap2 is like $50 and the siemmens $100 |
05:21.30 | fugitivo | shido6: me too |
05:21.31 | pygrammer | yeah, maybe it pays now, until voip phones get cheaper, to just get an analog phone and an adapter |
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05:22.31 | s34n | pygrammer: you already have an analog phone? |
05:23.35 | mishehu | shido6: yeah, but a pap2 can be a bitch to crack. |
05:23.46 | fugitivo | mishehu: it works great |
05:23.57 | pygrammer | s34n: well, come to think of it, my dad has an old nortel (or nortel-like) analog phone that has all the features and options one could ever want, as well as 4 lines |
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05:24.18 | pygrammer | a directory, etc. etc. |
05:24.26 | pygrammer | maybe i ought to see if it works and just get an adapter |
05:24.28 | pygrammer | like the linksys |
05:24.29 | fugitivo | pygrammer: buy an ata and test it |
05:24.44 | s34n | pygrammer: if you like the linksys/sipura ata, think sipura 841 ip phone |
05:25.06 | Umaro | Hey guys, having an odd problem with 1.0.9.. when I generate say, 130 test calls, 127 of them work just fine, play a test message, and hang up. the other 3, however, don't hang up, ever. they stay in app_playback, supposedly playing the file |
05:25.16 | Umaro | but the file is only like 5 seconds long |
05:25.16 | jaike | does jitterbuffer settings have any effect on asterisk's choice of codec? ive already set bandwidth=low and it still uses ulaw over g729 |
05:25.22 | pygrammer | fugitivo: i suppose i could test it on my home pots line itself, right? |
05:25.32 | s34n | pygrammer: $85 for sipura ip phone |
05:26.28 | s34n | pygrammer: you can't test an ata on a pots line |
05:27.04 | jaike | sipura 841s are terrible..one of five break down |
05:27.05 | fugitivo | pygrammer: an ata is ip -> analogic |
05:27.58 | s34n | pygrammer: do you have asterisk? |
05:28.50 | s34n | pygrammer: do you have an ip network (besides a single pc)? |
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05:31.27 | s34n | fugitivo: you've had better experiences with an ata than ip phones? |
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05:31.55 | pygrammer | sorry all, i got distracted! |
05:32.07 | s34n | fugitivo: most people go the other way. |
05:32.07 | pygrammer | s34n: i didn't mean i would test the ata on the pots line |
05:32.10 | fugitivo | s34n: not real experience, my analogic phones conected to the linksys pap2 works better than the atcom 320, but that phone sucks :) |
05:32.12 | SarahEmm | hihi all |
05:32.23 | pygrammer | just the *phone* itself |
05:32.29 | pygrammer | to see if it still works after years of non-user |
05:32.31 | pygrammer | *non-us |
05:32.33 | pygrammer | *non-use!! |
05:32.49 | s34n | pygrammer: don't you have a phone right now |
05:32.53 | s34n | ? |
05:32.59 | criptos | ata just sucks! they have very few options... |
05:33.15 | pygrammer | s34n: see above; i'm using a cheap $10 desktop mic and speakers, so i cant use my current setup for anything useful |
05:33.17 | criptos | specially the iaxy thing from digium.. I have 10 of them and they´re pure headache... |
05:33.20 | pygrammer | and yes, s34n, i have an asterisk setup |
05:33.40 | pygrammer | but as i said, it really isn't useable for talking to friends or business contacts because of my lousy setup |
05:33.42 | s34n | pygrammer: do you have an analog phone? |
05:33.44 | pygrammer | echo central |
05:33.46 | fugitivo | criptos: flash key works for my ata connected phones, but it doesn't work for my atcom 320 |
05:34.17 | pygrammer | s34n: yes, i told you my dad/i has an old(er) nortel phone that has tons of features and 4 lines, so i'll test that tomorrow and see if it still works; if it does, i'll probably just get an ATA |
05:34.23 | s34n | criptos: I've heard bad things about the iaxy. too bad, really |
05:34.24 | fugitivo | i have several customers using linksys pap2, no complains |
05:34.57 | s34n | pygrammer: the Nortels aren't usually straight up analog phones. |
05:35.12 | s34n | They usueally work with Nortel key systems/pbxes |
05:35.25 | pygrammer | it may not be nortel, i can't remember |
05:35.31 | pygrammer | it looks like one though |
05:35.41 | pygrammer | i'll check tomorrow; it's in my parents' room and they're asleep |
05:35.49 | SarahEmm | nortel does make plain phones too |
05:35.51 | pygrammer | (not configured though) |
05:36.18 | s34n | SarahEmm: not usually 4-line plain phones |
05:36.52 | s34n | pygrammer: you can buy a $70-99 ata for an analog phone.... |
05:37.11 | s34n | keeping in mind that atas don't have many features |
05:37.23 | fugitivo | $50 for a linksys pap2 |
05:37.25 | SarahEmm | true |
05:37.27 | s34n | or $60-90 for a cheap ip phone |
05:37.33 | fugitivo | 2 fxw |
05:37.36 | fugitivo | fxs |
05:37.49 | s34n | that may not be so good, but may not be so bad |
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05:38.02 | fugitivo | linksys pap2 works great |
05:38.13 | s34n | fugitivo: pap2 has to be hacked, true? |
05:38.16 | SarahEmm | no |
05:38.19 | SarahEmm | well |
05:38.20 | fugitivo | s34n: no |
05:38.22 | SarahEmm | PAP2-NA is unlocked always |
05:38.25 | SarahEmm | PAP2 is locked |
05:38.30 | fugitivo | s34n: pap2-na its open |
05:38.36 | s34n | ok |
05:38.40 | pygrammer | fugitivo: does it transmit callerid and everything? |
05:38.49 | fugitivo | yes' |
05:39.34 | s34n | fugitivo: where are the $50? |
05:40.04 | fugitivo | i don't know, i pay $70 in argentina, so it'll be cheaper in the us |
05:40.08 | pygrammer | can't buy the NAs, can you? |
05:40.13 | pygrammer | unless you're a service provider? |
05:40.33 | fugitivo | i can buy the NAs in argentina |
05:40.39 | pygrammer | where? |
05:40.45 | s34n | pygrammer: keep in mind criptos warning. many would say the same. |
05:40.56 | SarahEmm | pygrammer: technically that's truew |
05:41.16 | fugitivo | i don't have problems with atas |
05:41.30 | s34n | fugitivo: you lack many features |
05:41.41 | fugitivo | s34n: for example? |
05:41.50 | s34n | fugitivo: multiple call appearances, call transfer, etc. |
05:42.00 | fugitivo | ... |
05:42.11 | s34n | maybe no big deal |
05:42.15 | fugitivo | i have that with the linksys pap2 |
05:42.31 | s34n | how do you get multiple call appearances? |
05:43.25 | pygrammer | http://www.verilan.com/store/product.php?productid=16184&cat=0&page=1 |
05:43.37 | pygrammer | haha, activation is required for $2.99/month with no long-term contracts |
05:43.44 | pygrammer | just a bs thing to bypass linksys' restriction |
05:43.47 | fugitivo | i tried two simultaneous calls |
05:43.49 | pygrammer | so basically $78 |
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05:44.13 | fugitivo | call transfer works with flash key, better than my atcom 320 ip phone |
05:44.49 | s34n | fugitivo: how do you see multiple incoming calls? |
05:45.20 | fugitivo | s34n: i see the callerid and beep sound in my analogic phone |
05:45.39 | Ferris_1 | gnite guys! Thanks criptos for teaching me to solve my problem!! |
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05:46.16 | pygrammer | fugitivo: it's "analog" |
05:46.18 | criptos | your welcome ferris_1 |
05:46.49 | fugitivo | pygrammer: thanks |
05:46.55 | pygrammer | fugitivo: no problem |
05:47.30 | s34n | atas are certainly an option. |
05:47.42 | pygrammer | bah |
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05:47.54 | s34n | they cost the same money as a cheap ip phone |
05:48.02 | fugitivo | in argentina is a great option, ip phones are expensive |
05:48.14 | criptos | fugitivo, how expensive compared to ata? |
05:48.15 | s34n | but may have a better experience if the analog phone is better quality |
05:48.33 | fugitivo | s34n: you're wrong, the linksys pap2 is 2 fxs |
05:48.42 | criptos | I live in mexico, the iaxy thing plus a NICE phone, cost about the same as a budgetphone.. and 2/3 from a snom.. |
05:49.03 | s34n | fugitivo: I didn't say they weren't ??? |
05:49.12 | fugitivo | an ip phone here is like $100, a linksys pap2 (2 fxs) is $70 |
05:49.15 | pygrammer | http://www.cnn.com/ |
05:49.58 | criptos | the iaxy is really expensive, 99 usd + taxes, I get it to my hands for over 140 usd + a 60/80 usd dolars nice analog phone (caller id, voicemail count etc)... and then you have a 220 top phone.. with out the nice things of a "REAL" IP phone... |
05:50.02 | s34n | fugitivo: a grandstream 101 is $60 USD |
05:50.17 | fugitivo | s34n: that's only one phone |
05:50.29 | criptos | a pap2 isn´t a phone... |
05:50.29 | fugitivo | s34n: how much is a linksys pap2 there? |
05:50.44 | criptos | is a cpe!, you need the phisical phones... |
05:50.57 | s34n | fugitivo: $75 + legal hassle |
05:51.05 | fugitivo | criptos: common, how much is an analogic phone there? |
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05:52.14 | criptos | a GOOD one, a panasonic is about 80 usd... cheap, ugly phone, wich add MORE echo to the line, additional to latency, will cost 30usd.. |
05:52.52 | fugitivo | well, here it's cheaper to buy a linksys pap2, and 2 good phones, than buying a cheap ip phone |
05:53.03 | criptos | SO you end with a poor quality setup of cpe + phone with low features versus a full fledged IP phone... |
05:53.17 | s34n | fugitivo: $75 for ata, $40 x2 for cheap phones = $135 |
05:53.39 | s34n | $60 x 2 for 2 cheap ip phones = $120 |
05:53.54 | fugitivo | my linksys pap2 + siemens "cordless phone" + siemens "office phone" works better than my "cheap atcom 320 ip phone" |
05:54.06 | s34n | fugitivo: agreed |
05:54.23 | fugitivo | and i have a cordless phone for $100 |
05:54.25 | s34n | ata may be better with cheap analog phone than one cheap ip phone |
05:54.34 | criptos | fugitivo, do you have disctintive ring? |
05:54.48 | fugitivo | criptos: yes, pap2 have 8 distinctive rigns |
05:55.02 | criptos | how do they work? |
05:55.15 | fugitivo | with caller_id, i know, it sucks |
05:55.47 | s34n | fugitivo: for the low-end experience, ata may be most qoe/$ |
05:56.19 | fugitivo | the reality is that people won't waste money on ip phones (in argentina) |
05:56.25 | jaike | any g729 users here? |
05:56.39 | s34n | but in an office environment, quality ip phone costs same as quality analog phone |
05:56.55 | fugitivo | s34n: siemens are good phones |
05:56.59 | criptos | s34n have a point.. |
05:57.21 | criptos | how much for bew siemens phones? Do they have callerd id an voicemail indication? |
05:57.56 | s34n | fugitivo: I'm not bashing siemens phones. |
05:58.06 | fugitivo | s34n: my cordless siemens phone has callerid, call waiting callerid, voicemail indication, ringtones, and a lot of stuff |
05:58.15 | fugitivo | it's $100 |
05:58.25 | s34n | fugitivo: siemens phone + ata = $170 - $190? |
05:58.46 | s34n | fugitivo: your phone is not an office phone. |
05:59.00 | fugitivo | the office phone is cheaper |
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05:59.39 | s34n | you are still looking at $175 - $200 for most quality office phones. |
06:00.00 | s34n | which puts you in the neighborhood of the polycom 501. |
06:00.15 | fugitivo | the polycom 501 is not wireless |
06:00.24 | s34n | which is a much nicer solution than the average office phone. |
06:00.28 | fugitivo | and remember that linksys pap2 is 2 fxs |
06:00.34 | fugitivo | you can plug 2 analog phones |
06:00.46 | criptos | there is a fadthel wireless for about 300 usd.. which look DAMN GOOD, even better than cell phone.. |
06:00.49 | s34n | who cares about 2 fxs? |
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06:01.01 | fugitivo | s34n: me |
06:01.29 | s34n | fugitivo: are you placing two phones next to each other, or stringing cat3 around the place? |
06:01.43 | fugitivo | s34n: it doesn't matter |
06:01.57 | s34n | yes it does |
06:02.00 | SarahEmm | crash3m: fadthel? google finds nothing for that |
06:02.00 | fugitivo | no |
06:02.25 | s34n | fugitivo: have you ever managed an office installation with dozens of phones? |
06:02.41 | fugitivo | s34n: yes |
06:03.15 | fugitivo | s34n: in Argentina you have to look for the best/cheap option for the customer |
06:03.18 | s34n | where the ata for a phone is in the next cubicle over, or you have a bunch of atas dangling in the wiring closet |
06:03.37 | s34n | with faded labels |
06:03.48 | s34n | and no central management. |
06:03.58 | SarahEmm | criptos: fadthel? google finds nothing for that |
06:04.01 | criptos | fugitivo:: argentina is much alike mexico. I used to make ata + phones, but that kind of installation are ugly, hard to mainain and there are a lot of issues.. |
06:04.07 | criptos | Let me get the name correct :) |
06:04.33 | s34n | fugitivo: atas are good for some things. |
06:04.34 | fugitivo | criptos: i know, but using atas and ip phones will tell you if you win the customer |
06:05.02 | fugitivo | s34n: i agree |
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06:05.33 | s34n | fugitivo: but you are still $275 into two phones and have horrible management. |
06:05.46 | s34n | two ip phones cost $120. |
06:05.53 | s34n | for cheap phones |
06:06.05 | fugitivo | s34n: $120 for 2 ip phones? they should sux |
06:06.11 | cced | who have clone Tormenta 2 card? |
06:06.21 | s34n | or $220 for cheap grandstream gxp-2000 |
06:06.33 | criptos | fugitivo: are u forgetting tco? How about the cost of mainaitnning cables, and phones for atas, and the lack of flexibility becose you have 2 phones attached? |
06:06.34 | s34n | ($110 each) |
06:06.44 | fugitivo | s34n: you still don't understand the differences between countries |
06:06.51 | fugitivo | s34n: we pay custom taxes here |
06:07.13 | s34n | only on ip phones? |
06:07.28 | fugitivo | s34n: we pay %50 + 21% of custom taxes |
06:07.46 | fugitivo | s34n: an ip phone, is REALLY expensive here |
06:08.08 | s34n | fugitivo: how much is a gxp-2000? |
06:08.29 | fugitivo | s34n: cost + shipping + 50% + 21%, do the math |
06:09.46 | fugitivo | s34n, criptos, i'd love to use only ip phones, it's easier for me, but expensive for companies : |
06:09.47 | fugitivo | :) |
06:09.54 | criptos | well, you know your market. I f you say ata are betters, then, it´s ok. |
06:10.04 | FuriousGeorge | fugitivo: you should ask someone in the states to send you a "gift" or two |
06:10.28 | fugitivo | FuriousGeorge: sure, tell me who should i ask |
06:10.55 | criptos | And NOT is NOT expesive for companies... is cheaper at the middle term... Dont forget, sistems needs to be maintaned.. so less maintance less middle, and long term cost.. this is the KEY why linux and any thing built over linux will be cheaper than propietary solutions... |
06:11.09 | s34n | fugitivo: does it matter what country you import from? |
06:11.12 | fugitivo | criptos: the relation between price and functionality makes atas a better option for companies |
06:11.22 | criptos | If you are selling relaying onto inmediatly cost, Corporate salesman from cisco will kick you ass... |
06:11.55 | dant | and avaya pbx, with ip phones or old style digital handsets is going to be expensive |
06:12.53 | Umaro | hey guys, having an odd problem with 1.0.9 where a lot of the time, my sip channels get locked up in app_playback |
06:13.45 | s34n | fugitivo: why stop at a 2-port? why not go 4-port? |
06:13.56 | criptos | Umaro: update to beta, it´s very stable at sip. |
06:14.18 | bluesky | hi, i'm still with zaptel. i'm trying to install after updateing kernel, and i'm getting the message: You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.9-1.667smp kernel installed. I already modified the link to point to the new kernel's directry... any clue please? |
06:14.36 | fugitivo | s34n: for example, a 8-port gateway is $900 here |
06:14.43 | criptos | bluesky, are u sure u have the source kernel? |
06:15.13 | fugitivo | [msg(FuriousGeorge)] :) |
06:15.33 | bluesky | 2.6.12-1.1376_FC3 |
06:16.10 | bluesky | should be smp? |
06:16.15 | cced | who have clone Tormenta 2 card? |
06:16.40 | fugitivo | bluesky: if you have more than one processor, yes |
06:16.49 | criptos | blusky, that is the kernel, you need the src.rpm or the srpm... |
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06:17.27 | bluesky | i have two processors |
06:18.17 | criptos | then you need the smp AND the srpm kernel... |
06:18.39 | bluesky | and where should the link point to? |
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06:20.13 | criptos | you need the srouce code at /usr/src and the link sould point to the directory of the newest souce kernel... |
06:20.36 | s34n | fugitivo: drive to brazil and buy a bunch of souvenir ip phones. |
06:20.49 | fugitivo | s34n: are you in brazil? |
06:20.53 | s34n | no |
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06:21.06 | s34n | but it will still be cheaper than buyin in argentina |
06:21.08 | fugitivo | brazil has strong custom taxes |
06:22.11 | criptos | but for what ua re saying, there will no be high volume purchases of phones.. so they can pass as personal use.. |
06:22.15 | criptos | "for my home" :) |
06:23.03 | fugitivo | well, you can get only $300 if you "travel" to another country without paying taxes |
06:23.23 | s34n | fugitivo: do you pay 70+% tax on everything you import? |
06:23.46 | bluesky | criptos: everywhere i've read they point the link to /lib/modules/kernel/build |
06:23.53 | fugitivo | i don't import, i buy from a reseller, it's cheaper, i don't know how they do that :) |
06:24.03 | s34n | fugitivo: and your domestic economy is failing? |
06:24.05 | criptos | almos, I pay 60% + as almos a rule when I import somehing to mexico |
06:24.38 | fugitivo | but the ip phone market is |
06:24.38 | fugitivo | [msg(FuriousGeorge)] :) |
06:24.49 | fugitivo | sorry, that's my dog |
06:25.03 | criptos | bluesky: when you install you new kenrel from rpm, the rpm take care of that kind of nuances, so you donwload the zaptel code, make install and everything are supposed to get rigth, if not, switch to another distro who now how to do things rigth.. try slackware! |
06:25.25 | fugitivo | the ip phone market is really small, that's why buying atas is cheaper than ip phones |
06:25.28 | criptos | (This message was payed by the: Use slackware or suck! coallition) |
06:26.34 | s34n | fugitivo: if you pay 70+% tax on any import, your entire economy is doomed |
06:27.01 | fugitivo | s34n: yes it's, welcome to the third world |
06:27.42 | s34n | fugitivo: this is not being caused by outside forces. you are doing it to yourselves. |
06:27.50 | fugitivo | i know |
06:27.56 | fugitivo | i can't do nothing about it |
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06:29.20 | s34n | fugitivo: you could start an ip phone manufacturing company :) |
06:29.24 | fugitivo | llol |
06:29.36 | fugitivo | i'd like to, hehe |
06:30.51 | s34n | fugitivo: if a simple cordless phone costs $100, you should look at cheap ip phones. |
06:31.06 | s34n | the quality my not disappoint you. |
06:31.12 | s34n | may not |
06:31.18 | fugitivo | s34n: it's not a simple cordless phone, it's a good cordless phone |
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06:31.44 | fugitivo | s34n: i have a cheap ip phone, atcom 320, i prefer my siemens cordless phone |
06:34.25 | s34n | fugitivo: do you run them as SIP, MGCP, IAX2? |
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06:34.41 | fugitivo | s34n: sip |
06:34.54 | criptos | well enougth about 3rd world expensive taxes... I will go to sleep, and hope tomorrow I wake up, misteriously, at switzerland hold a stunnig brunnete with green eyes (yes, at swtzerland, to make it more exotic) which she has just decided to give me the life I deserve... So, I´m going to sleep, and see if dreams come true. |
06:35.14 | s34n | fugitivo: is your complain the sound quality or other features? |
06:35.20 | criptos | Meanwhile: ATA sucks! |
06:35.26 | fugitivo | s34n: it works GREAT |
06:35.48 | fugitivo | s34n: get a pap2 and try it yourseldf |
06:36.18 | s34n | fugitivo: I'm wondering what it is about the atcom you don't like. |
06:36.30 | s34n | sound? dropped calls? features? |
06:36.54 | fugitivo | s34n: it doesn't hangup correctly, random loockups, the speaker sucks, transfer sucks... |
06:37.51 | pygrammer | still talking about sip phones? lol |
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06:39.23 | pygrammer | i wonder what the highest bank balance is in the world |
06:39.30 | pygrammer | like in one account |
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06:39.53 | websae | criptos you here? |
06:39.55 | pygrammer | most wealthy people diversify their savings and investments, so it wouldn't be all that high |
06:40.06 | pygrammer | welcome websae |
06:40.10 | pygrammer | long time no talk |
06:40.24 | criptos | Let me check my balance... to tell you. |
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06:40.33 | pygrammer | <PROTECTED> |
06:40.43 | pygrammer | yay my paycheck from last week cleared |
06:40.45 | pygrammer | i feel better now |
06:41.03 | pygrammer | - second now |
06:41.11 | fugitivo | hell, buy it |
06:41.23 | fugitivo | if you live in the us it's cheap |
06:41.29 | pygrammer | $334 isn't cheap! |
06:42.00 | s34n | pygrammer: you're broke with no job and you live with your parents? buy the toy you want. |
06:42.02 | fugitivo | yes it's |
06:42.17 | pygrammer | s34n: yes, i'm not even an adult -- 15 |
06:42.23 | pygrammer | so i don't have to pay rent or anything |
06:42.30 | fugitivo | pygrammer: look, here, the peso is 3 x 1 |
06:42.43 | pygrammer | fugitivo: i know |
06:42.49 | pygrammer | my dad was in buenos aires a couple years ago |
06:42.57 | fugitivo | pygrammer: so, $334 for me is $1002 |
06:43.01 | pygrammer | he and his brother got a dinner at the best steakhouse in argentina for like $150 |
06:43.16 | pygrammer | you guys have it rough economically, but it's getting better |
06:43.17 | fugitivo | pygrammer: and you should add 50% of custom taxes and 21% of iva |
06:43.21 | fugitivo | that's a total of |
06:43.38 | fugitivo | $1819 |
06:43.43 | fugitivo | that's expensive |
06:43.47 | pygrammer | but it's relative |
06:43.52 | pygrammer | the standard and cost of living is lower there |
06:43.58 | fugitivo | ??? |
06:44.01 | fugitivo | lower?? |
06:44.04 | fugitivo | lol |
06:44.05 | s34n | fugitivo: not if you make $2000/hour |
06:44.23 | pygrammer | fugitivo: uh, yes |
06:44.25 | pygrammer | see my post above |
06:44.29 | fugitivo | you're lucky if you earn $1000 a month |
06:44.54 | s34n | minus tax, after 3x1 ratio is only.... $5/hour in U.S. ;) |
06:45.00 | fugitivo | ok, if you're a technology guy, you can earn $2000 |
06:45.19 | fugitivo | i'm talking in pesos, not dollars |
06:45.28 | pygrammer | hmm |
06:45.34 | pygrammer | move over here :D |
06:45.40 | pygrammer | we've got space :) |
06:45.42 | fugitivo | $2000 pesos = u$s 666 |
06:45.47 | fugitivo | that's a number |
06:45.47 | fugitivo | lol |
06:45.52 | pygrammer | if you move here, you'll make like $50k |
06:45.58 | pygrammer | if you're halfway-decent |
06:46.14 | fugitivo | pygrammer: no way, i worked in miami last year, i made 30k a year |
06:46.26 | s34n | pygrammer: don't count on it. unemployment in tech is still a growing issue in U.S. |
06:46.30 | pygrammer | well, it depends what you're doing ...; |
06:46.36 | pygrammer | s34n: where are you from? |
06:46.45 | fugitivo | pygrammer: i was doing advanced networking tasks :) |
06:46.48 | s34n | U.S. |
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06:46.59 | pygrammer | originally? |
06:47.07 | pygrammer | i thought you were from some latin american country |
06:47.54 | s34n | my spanish is better than my portuguese and both are worse than my japanese. |
06:48.14 | pygrammer | so you were born in the US? |
06:48.19 | s34n | yes |
06:48.27 | pygrammer | oh |
06:49.03 | fugitivo | so, an ip phone here, will cost more than your one month of your salary :) |
06:49.18 | pygrammer | heh.... |
06:49.49 | fugitivo | that's why atas are a better option |
06:50.13 | s34n | fugitivo: cordless without ata is a better option |
06:50.14 | fugitivo | good night |
06:50.30 | fugitivo | s34n: no it's nots |
06:50.34 | s34n | corded without ata is even better option |
06:50.51 | fugitivo | s34n: i use a $100 cordless phone, not everybody |
06:51.05 | s34n | how much is a cell phone? |
06:51.19 | fugitivo | it depends |
06:51.35 | s34n | 1/10 of monthly salary? |
06:51.37 | criptos | where a nice phone, motorola razar is about 400 usd... |
06:51.57 | fugitivo | motorola v300 is $300 (dollars) |
06:52.03 | s34n | usable cell phones are give aways in the U.S. |
06:52.07 | criptos | nope, a top of the line cellphone can cost you 1/2 your montly salary... |
06:52.10 | fugitivo | that's 900 pesos |
06:52.44 | fugitivo | you don't want to walk on buenos aires streets with 900 pesos in your pocket |
06:52.49 | Insanity5 | hehe |
06:53.00 | s34n | I'm not willing to afford top of the line cellphone in U.S. |
06:53.07 | Insanity5 | fugitivo - Yes you do... to hire a few bodyguards :) |
06:53.09 | criptos | yeap, and broadband in latin america is just so expensive...for example a 1025 download / 512 upload cost 100 usd montly in mexico... |
06:53.43 | fugitivo | i pay u$s 50 for 256k |
06:53.45 | pygrammer | maybe i'll get an iPod Photo |
06:53.45 | fugitivo | adsl |
06:53.47 | pygrammer | 60 GB |
06:54.20 | Supaplex | ha GB. Get a 1 TB iPod. |
06:54.47 | criptos | aila (see ya) |
06:54.53 | s34n | fugitivo: it sounds like a cheapo analog phone and PSTN service is the way to go for you. |
06:54.54 | fugitivo | pygrammer: so, the cisco 7960 is really cheap for your |
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06:55.20 | tuxinator_linuxM | boy, I pay $30 for a 5Mb / 1Mb |
06:55.23 | fugitivo | s34n: it's for small companies |
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06:56.02 | fugitivo | s34n: E1 and analog phones is the way for medium companies, i'll leave cisco for big companies |
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06:57.26 | s34n | fugitivo: what does a cheap channel bank cost? |
06:57.48 | fugitivo | there's no such thing as cheap channel bank |
06:57.49 | fugitivo | lol |
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06:58.35 | s34n | sure there is: used |
06:59.35 | s34n | probably cheaper than ATAs and easier to manage |
07:00.40 | s34n | fugitivo: if you get them less than $900, it is cheaper than 12 of your ATAs |
07:01.46 | s34n | fugitivo: oops. I guess not when you figure in the E-1 card :( |
07:02.42 | s34n | fugitivo: cb < $400 + $500 E-1 card is cheaper than your ATA array. |
07:03.54 | s34n | I guess you buy 15 ATAs per E-1... sop you can splurge up to $500 on a cb |
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07:06.26 | s34n | fugitivo: something like http://cgi.ebay.com/Channel-Bank-24FXS-Ports_W0QQitemZ5802690686QQcategoryZ51271QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
07:06.38 | s34n | saves you the $500 E-1 card |
07:07.41 | pygrammer | i found the polycom soundpoint 501 for $190 shipped |
07:07.42 | pygrammer | new |
07:08.23 | s34n | pygrammer: offer them $320 |
07:08.42 | pygrammer | ?? |
07:08.56 | s34n | (you know you really want the cisco) |
07:09.18 | s34n | and you're dying to spend money |
07:13.10 | pygrammer | haha |
07:13.10 | pygrammer | yeah |
07:13.12 | pygrammer | right |
07:13.18 | pygrammer | i want to get rid of all my money to get a stupid phone |
07:14.48 | s34n | pygrammer: just buy a decent usb headset |
07:17.54 | pygrammer | i would prefer a hardphone |
07:17.57 | pygrammer | they're more practical |
07:18.03 | pygrammer | i have all these sound issues with my system, too |
07:18.10 | pygrammer | you keep recommending all these different things |
07:18.12 | pygrammer | :-p |
07:20.48 | s34n | pygrammer: I have a 12 yr old son |
07:21.02 | s34n | I tell him to keep his money in the bank |
07:21.26 | s34n | You are determined to spend money |
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07:21.46 | s34n | so I point to $60-75 options |
07:22.01 | s34n | vs the $350 you want to spend. |
07:22.19 | bluesky | how do i install smp version of kernel? or how should i look for it, i just find plain versions |
07:22.25 | s34n | The Cisco is a nice phone. It is worth the money |
07:22.31 | wasim | bluesky: make menuconfig |
07:22.37 | s34n | if you are into that kind of money |
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07:23.15 | s34n | bluesky: remind me your distro |
07:23.49 | s34n | pygrammer: if you want the Cisco, buy it. |
07:24.11 | s34n | pygrammer: if you want to go to college, keep your money in the bank. |
07:24.12 | bluesky | symetric multi... support? fc3 |
07:24.26 | jack | and put the 24 ringtone on it! |
07:24.35 | pygrammer | s34n: but i didn't say i wanted to spend $350, in fact just the opposite |
07:24.41 | s34n | fc3 should auto detect your smp and install the right kernel |
07:24.43 | pygrammer | if i did, i'd have already purchased it hours ago |
07:25.24 | s34n | bluesky: you don't already have an smp kernel after fc3 install? |
07:25.58 | s34n | pygrammer: you want to play with an ip phone on the cheap? |
07:26.18 | s34n | pygrammer: you want the best ip phone on the market? the cheapest? what? |
07:26.25 | pygrammer | s34n: i want a decent one for a decent price |
07:26.28 | pygrammer | i don't like crappy stuff |
07:26.34 | pygrammer | but i don't like spending a lot of money :) |
07:26.42 | pygrammer | i'll do it, but i'll doubt myself |
07:27.09 | s34n | pygrammer: ip phones are not long term investments right now. |
07:27.33 | pygrammer | right |
07:27.37 | pygrammer | but if it lasts me a few years, that's good |
07:27.42 | s34n | the polycom 301 is less expensive |
07:27.55 | s34n | but I think is half duplex speaker phone or something |
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07:28.12 | pygrammer | the 301 doesn't have a speaker phone |
07:28.13 | pygrammer | just a speaker |
07:28.16 | pygrammer | for listening in |
07:28.36 | s34n | pygrammer: you strike me as a serious hobbyist who will not keep your phone for a year. |
07:28.55 | dev2005 | who use Tormenta 2 PCI Card ? |
07:29.17 | s34n | pygrammer: you will buy another within a year, I mean |
07:29.26 | pygrammer | s34n: maybe so |
07:30.20 | s34n | pygrammer: these things will keep evolving, and you will just have to have the new features next year |
07:30.54 | pygrammer | s34n: so you think $190 is too much to spend on a hardphone? |
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07:31.18 | s34n | pygrammer: no. |
07:31.36 | s34n | pygrammer: but it is for my son who would just play with it a while. |
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07:32.43 | s34n | pygrammer: if he were more serious and interested in part of my business, I'd cut him more slack.... |
07:32.53 | s34n | and more budget |
07:32.54 | Mimmus | good morning (here in Italy). Any idea why TxFax exists always with hanghup and never with a return code? |
07:33.24 | pygrammer | s34n: oh, so he's interested in telephony, too? |
07:33.47 | s34n | pygrammer: but I would expect to see a return on a $200 investment |
07:34.08 | pygrammer | what kind of return are you talking about with a 12-year-old sun? :) |
07:34.12 | pygrammer | hahaha |
07:34.14 | s34n | pygrammer: no interested enough for me to cut him $200 |
07:34.15 | pygrammer | *son |
07:34.39 | pygrammer | heh, my dad wouldn't just cut me $200, even if i showed interest |
07:34.43 | pygrammer | he'd tell me to buy it myself :) |
07:35.09 | s34n | pygrammer: he raised an animal this year that netted $900 in 3 months |
07:35.23 | jac]Z[oby | question: concerning avm fritz plus A@H |
07:35.53 | s34n | pygrammer: he paid me back my $300 investment and put a lot of money in the bank. |
07:36.00 | jac]Z[oby | what do i need or better wheres the difference |
07:36.25 | jac]Z[oby | because on one page they say isdn driver plus the i4l capi |
07:36.35 | jac]Z[oby | or chan capi and i4l |
07:36.45 | jac]Z[oby | somehow its all turning in circles |
07:36.59 | pygrammer | s34n: ah, that's impresive |
07:37.02 | pygrammer | *impressive |
07:37.07 | jac]Z[oby | anyone experienced this particular problem |
07:37.13 | pygrammer | i think i'm going to go ahead and say, "fuck it" and go for this polycom |
07:37.22 | s34n | pygrammer: he's learning that $10 lego set add up to big money |
07:37.51 | s34n | and $200 ip phones are a lot of money for a teen |
07:38.10 | jac]Z[oby | mwahaha mine cost about 500$ |
07:38.15 | jac]Z[oby | and i got 10 |
07:38.15 | pygrammer | jac]Z[oby: which? |
07:38.24 | s34n | pygrammer: unless they lead to somewhere |
07:38.35 | jac]Z[oby | well its a h.323 tiptel version by innovaphone |
07:38.59 | jac]Z[oby | www.innovaphone.com - its a voip telephony distributor |
07:39.18 | pygrammer | yuck, h.323 |
07:39.21 | s34n | pygrammer: I expect him to pay for his own college |
07:39.26 | jac]Z[oby | yapp i know |
07:39.40 | jac]Z[oby | thats why we are trying a@h a little bit |
07:39.47 | pygrammer | ACK |
07:39.50 | pygrammer | even worse; A@H! |
07:39.56 | jac]Z[oby | just the problem is the missing isdn support concerning the given cards |
07:39.58 | pygrammer | s34n: ok, then, my parents don't expect that :) |
07:40.04 | pygrammer | so i guess it evens otu |
07:40.05 | jac]Z[oby | ooook i know |
07:40.05 | pygrammer | *out |
07:40.13 | jac]Z[oby | were all n00bs here |
07:40.39 | jac]Z[oby | and noone was capable of setting up a running asterisk on something else |
07:40.50 | s34n | pygrammer: I "blew" a lot of money as a teen. |
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07:41.04 | pygrammer | heh |
07:41.05 | pygrammer | yeah |
07:41.06 | jac]Z[oby | it doesnt matter anyway because we have the problem in every distribution concerning the isdn hardware |
07:41.09 | s34n | pygrammer: now people ask, "How long have you been doing this |
07:41.22 | s34n | pygrammer: and "How'd you learn that" |
07:41.54 | s34n | pygrammer: I don't think the money was wasted. |
07:42.27 | pygrammer | yeah |
07:42.29 | s34n | but it was more of the $60 budgetone variety purchases. :) |
07:42.31 | pygrammer | we all make mistakes |
07:42.41 | pygrammer | but i'm thinking i'll use this phone |
07:42.57 | pygrammer | i've submitted my cc info, but have to click PLACE YOUR ORDER to finish! |
07:42.57 | pygrammer | Your Order has not been placed yet. |
07:42.57 | pygrammer | To complete your order, click here once.. |
07:43.02 | jac]Z[oby | btw pygrammer: know anyone who can help me? |
07:43.40 | pygrammer | with what? |
07:43.47 | s34n | pygrammer: does it come with support? |
07:43.52 | pygrammer | s34n: what kind? |
07:43.53 | jac]Z[oby | a@h and avm |
07:44.25 | s34n | pygrammer: somebody who will hold your hand and make sure it works in your environment? |
07:44.42 | pygrammer | don't think so -- but i'm smart |
07:44.44 | pygrammer | i can get it working |
07:45.17 | pygrammer | maybe i'll keep the order page up til tomorrow and think about it in my dreams |
07:45.22 | pygrammer | good night s34n |
07:45.49 | pygrammer | let me look at that page you sent me |
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07:47.50 | jac]Z[oby | which one - mine? |
07:48.01 | jaike | anyone know how iax codec negotiation works? |
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08:06.08 | Mimmus | do I need to disable echocancel on a PRI line? I read in the FAQ that " There should also be no echo on PRI connections" |
08:08.29 | serg_b | may be you need echocancelwhenbridged=no |
08:10.04 | Mimmus | why? |
08:11.19 | serg_b | afaik, echo generated only on a/d d/a conversions. it's pri->pstn gateway. |
08:11.54 | serg_b | if you're using pri->sip or something like this - you don't need to echocancel. |
08:12.10 | serg_b | may be i'm wrong. |
08:12.14 | Mimmus | I use Asterisk netween a PSTN PRI line and a legacy, analog PBX, no SIP (until now) |
08:12.34 | serg_b | how legacy pbx connected to * ? |
08:13.14 | Mimmus | by a crossed E1 cable |
08:14.18 | serg_b | imagine pri (or any digital) as four wire line with separated tx and rx. when you converting signal to two-wire line |
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08:14.56 | serg_b | you get an echo, because on two-wire tx and rx on same wires and sound being trasmitted going back on rx |
08:15.35 | Mimmus | yes, exactly. Byt my analog phones are connected to the legacy pbx... |
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08:15.56 | serg_b | it's pbx job to echocancel |
08:16.26 | serg_b | on one side - pstn gateways do echocancel for you, on another side - legacy pbx. |
08:16.42 | serg_b | you don't need to echocancel in middle |
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08:18.09 | serg_b | if you put digium tdm card in your * then you need to echocancel on this card due to 4->2 wire conversion |
08:19.15 | Mimmus | ok, thanks. I will try to disable echocancel |
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08:19.53 | serg_b | anyway. echo present all the time we using pstn lines |
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08:20.44 | Pkunk | anyone have a problem in asterisk , where it loads up and says "ACL 192.168.0.0/16/16 added ... " , and then just sits there ? |
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08:20.44 | Pkunk | i get the CLI only after 10 minutes |
08:20.44 | Praktikant01 | need help, if somone calls my asterisk he gets the master msn shown if a call is established |
08:21.04 | Pkunk | and for any incoming calls it says - Channel 'Zap/1-1' sent into invalid extension 's' in context 'default', but no invalid handler |
08:21.30 | Pkunk | once the CLI loads up after 5-10 mins everything starts working fine then |
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08:27.57 | r0m | good morning! |
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08:29.33 | eldu | morning |
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08:36.33 | christo | morning guys |
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08:41.46 | ktos | hi, do You know does iaxclient support SIP? |
08:42.02 | denon | eh, I dont know for sure .. |
08:42.06 | denon | but my guess would be no |
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08:44.09 | ktos | does any linux VoIP program support SIP? |
08:44.52 | Praktikant01 | ktos: linphone kphone |
08:45.03 | Praktikant01 | ktos: xlite is available for linux also |
08:45.09 | ktos | but kiax? |
08:45.19 | Praktikant01 | ktos: kiax does iax nothing else |
08:45.22 | gordonjcp | xlite is bollocks though |
08:45.23 | X-Rob | Woo. Woo 3644 Woo. |
08:45.46 | ktos | ok, tkan You very much |
08:45.56 | Praktikant01 | :-) |
08:45.57 | ktos | bye |
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08:55.05 | Mother_ | greetings |
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08:56.58 | \PsyKo\ | is there anyone who can suggest me an fxs, high density board, to use with * |
08:57.14 | \PsyKo\ | i need more than 24 fxs ports |
08:58.27 | Mother_ | channel banks? |
08:58.38 | serg_b | channel banks only |
08:58.48 | kaldemar | hey guys. |
08:59.00 | wasim | you can get cac adit's that do 24 fxs/sip as well |
08:59.10 | serg_b | but you can use some pbx with pri lines as fxs bank :) |
08:59.21 | kaldemar | would you know a way of getting a sip caller's ip address into a variable in dialplan? |
08:59.45 | \PsyKo\ | serg_b: pri line as channel bank? |
09:00.11 | serg_b | no, for example panasonic td500 with pri lines connected to * |
09:00.27 | kaldemar | or to get asterisk to pass on SIP MESSAGEs to it's clients? |
09:00.41 | serg_b | for example, rhino cb costs $70 per port, while td500 - only $35 |
09:00.42 | Mother_ | \PsyKo\: or, get the pri card that goes into the channel bank |
09:01.34 | \PsyKo\ | so: * pri ---> td500 --> n fxs port? |
09:01.45 | serg_b | kaldemar: there is function SIPHeaders in 1.2 code |
09:02.33 | kaldemar | serg_b: thanks. but i'd have to get that in 1.0.5 and 1.0.2. |
09:02.49 | serg_b | \PsyKo\: yes. i'm going to implement this setup within month or two |
09:03.10 | Mother_ | serg_b: how much for the td500? |
09:03.20 | \PsyKo\ | yes, how much? |
09:03.42 | serg_b | how much what? price? $35 per port. maximum of 500 ports |
09:03.48 | serg_b | it's complete pbx |
09:04.00 | Mother_ | not too bad then |
09:04.11 | Mother_ | a minimum of ports though? |
09:04.16 | serg_b | there can be some diffculties to pass functionality to * |
09:04.19 | serg_b | 0 |
09:04.42 | Mother_ | not the first time I'd see 500 ports at xx per port and....er....you have to buy 495 ports :D |
09:04.44 | serg_b | td500 - chassis with cpu and power supply |
09:06.02 | \PsyKo\ | other vendor of this kind of item? |
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09:06.45 | serg_b | i've been serached for pbx that can be connected with pri with a price as low as possible |
09:06.57 | \PsyKo\ | i need less than 100 ports |
09:07.08 | serg_b | you may add ports as you need |
09:07.22 | serg_b | in base config, td500 is only chassis with cpu |
09:07.38 | serg_b | need ports - buy modules |
09:08.08 | Mimmus | buying a pbx only to connect phones is absurd! |
09:08.16 | serg_b | as i remeber, one module with 16 ports costs about $300. may be i wrong |
09:08.17 | Mimmus | or not? |
09:08.52 | \PsyKo\ | Mimmus: yes |
09:09.14 | serg_b | the price |
09:09.39 | serg_b | i need to replace very old analog pbx with something new |
09:09.49 | serg_b | about 1000 ports |
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09:10.01 | serg_b | what to use? rhino? |
09:10.35 | Mimmus | a greati migration to SIP, using a SIP proxy like SER? |
09:10.57 | \PsyKo\ | Mimmus: i think it's a bad idea replace a pbx with * and purchase another pbx only for fxs ports |
09:11.01 | serg_b | 24fxs cb costs about $1500 + digium te410 |
09:11.27 | Mimmus | \PsyKo\: I fully agree, this is what I understand from this chat, today |
09:11.38 | serg_b | how much costs sip phone? |
09:11.42 | Mother_ | I agree with serg_b that as cost, it's very good indeed compared to channel banks |
09:12.04 | Mimmus | serg_b: more than an analog phone but price is decreasing fast |
09:12.05 | serg_b | cost - first and main requirement |
09:12.10 | Mother_ | and if you have to re-wire a whole building or buildings, build a new gigabit LAN just for your VoIP.......jeeez |
09:12.36 | gordonjcp | hang on though |
09:12.54 | gordonjcp | you need (if you're using cat5) a separate point for each device, right? |
09:12.55 | serg_b | simple (and ugly) budgetone costs about $100 |
09:13.15 | Mimmus | Mother_: ok but phone wire closet are awful too |
09:13.20 | gordonjcp | so each computer, phone or other device requires its own cable leading back to the comms room, right? |
09:13.32 | serg_b | gordonjcp: right |
09:13.39 | gordonjcp | so *why do people go on about running a separate LAN*? |
09:13.47 | gordonjcp | it's simple, you just buy two hubs |
09:14.09 | gordonjcp | all the wires come out the same place, you just keep the phone and the computer ones separate |
09:14.13 | gordonjcp | easy |
09:14.21 | Mother_ | Mimmus: yes, but if the wiring is done already, the transition is much much easier |
09:14.34 | Mimmus | \PsyKo\: non riesco a fare /msg a causa dle tuo nick! |
09:14.36 | Mother_ | you can go full VoIP at a later stage if you set a budget to upgrade your LAN |
09:14.52 | gordonjcp | and yet so many people purse their lips and do that weird inwards whistle thing and go "oooh, I don't know, sounds complicated" |
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09:15.22 | Mother_ | gordonjcp: you can run one LAN with sepparate VLANs for VoIP and data, but you better make sure the network can handle it |
09:15.40 | msan | oh! |
09:15.55 | gordonjcp | Mother_: yes, but there's no point in doing that |
09:16.02 | gordonjcp | *unless* you're using soft phones |
09:16.04 | serg_b | i'm think network can handle voice and data |
09:16.05 | Mother_ | gordonjcp: you'd be amazed at the number of installations that people do just buy cat5, connectors and wall jacks, when you do a line test they go "oh!" when it's running at half-speed |
09:16.19 | Mother_ | gordonjcp: OR VoIP hard phones (?!?) |
09:16.29 | Mimmus | Mother_: it's a problem of doing maintenance to wiring closet: it becames impossible |
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09:16.41 | gordonjcp | Mother_: I mean, *my* VoIP phones share the network with my computers, 'cos there aren't many phones and at most there are three calls on the network |
09:17.01 | nroej | hi all |
09:17.06 | gordonjcp | Mimmus: why is it impossible? You just have an extra switch just for the phones |
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09:17.32 | serg_b | gordonjcp: why using extra switch? use vlans instead |
09:17.32 | Mother_ | Mimmus: it's just the same as LAN wiring when there is enough of it :D |
09:17.54 | gordonjcp | serg_b: vlans don't help - you still have the physical limitation of how fast you can kick data down the wire |
09:18.08 | Mimmus | gordonjcp: here phones wiring closet are enormous hoard of wires |
09:18.19 | Mother_ | gordonjcp: I install Cisco 7912s because they have an internal switch, which people appreciate when you give them the cost of wiring a parallel network for them instead and buying cheapo voip hardphones |
09:18.34 | serg_b | i'm not sure that all lan users can use 100mbit bandwidth |
09:18.56 | serg_b | also, all l2/l3 switches can use qos |
09:19.04 | Mother_ | Mimmus: don't be offended, but if you let the wiring cabinet go like your wife's hair in the morning it's nobody else's fault but the tech's |
09:19.09 | Mimmus | vlans or not, you need a 'good' lan! |
09:19.22 | serg_b | i have a good lan :) |
09:19.22 | gordonjcp | serg_b: in any case, switches are relatively cheap |
09:19.33 | gordonjcp | Mimmus: indeed - no excuse for untidy wiring |
09:19.43 | Mimmus | Mother_: people like to keep same number when change room. And this happens very frequently... |
09:19.57 | gordonjcp | Mimmus: doesn't matter with VoIP |
09:20.17 | Mother_ | Mimmus: bag & tag - agreed on gordonjcp, voip cures this :) |
09:20.25 | gordonjcp | Mimmus: and in any case, it doesn't matter with conventional phones *anyway* |
09:20.30 | serg_b | gordonjcp: at this time there is only one argument against voip phones - price |
09:20.36 | gordonjcp | you should keep the wiring panel tidy |
09:20.41 | gordonjcp | serg_b: indeed |
09:21.09 | Mother_ | gordonjcp: switches are cheap for small LANs but when you try to scale things and don't know about qualified cabling, qos etc your life can become hell soooo fast :) |
09:21.20 | Mimmus | gordonjcp: here in Italy, also telco wiring closet on the streets corner are a nightmare! |
09:22.23 | Mother_ | Mimmus: yes, here too (Spain) they are awful, that's why I breathe down the neck of the telco's tech anytime they come in to do anything |
09:22.26 | jeffik | any body using asterisk at home? |
09:22.32 | gordonjcp | I am |
09:22.41 | Mimmus | jeffik: I'm |
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09:23.35 | jeffik | gordonjcp/Mimmus: thanks, i am trying to insert a scrip to set up a calling card program |
09:23.42 | Mother_ | I usually tell them to leave me enough cabling inside to reach the rack, then test the pairs with the butt set, and let them go, then finish the internal wiring myself |
09:23.58 | Mother_ | because they can mess things up in no time |
09:24.19 | jeffik | it says "Paste it into /usr/src/astpp-install.sh. Chmod 755 the script and then run, preferably as root. " |
09:24.27 | Mimmus | Mother_: :-) but here problem is also internal to my company (80 users) |
09:24.38 | serg_b | i'm doing all wiring myself. only. |
09:25.10 | jeffik | when i use putty and insert the script i get an error General failure (server should provide error description).<font size="3"> Error code: 4 Error message from server: Failure Request code: 3</font> |
09:25.15 | Mimmus | jeffik: say us more... |
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09:25.43 | jeffik | here is the link http://www.aleph-com.net/astpp/index.php?n=ASTPP.InstallScript |
09:25.44 | serg_b | jeffic, don't use putty. try shellguard or telneat insted. |
09:26.32 | Mother_ | what's wrong with putty? |
09:26.41 | RoyK | Mother_: religion |
09:26.41 | Mimmus | jeffic: or repeat script commands one by one by hand |
09:26.48 | Mother_ | LOL! |
09:26.52 | jeffik | serg_b: spacibo, I have only putty and winscp3, will that work? |
09:26.53 | gordonjcp | heh |
09:26.56 | serg_b | hmm.. i don't remember, but i had some problems with it |
09:26.57 | gordonjcp | putty works well |
09:27.03 | RoyK | Mother_: as with 'what's wrong with vi' |
09:27.07 | Mimmus | putty is used everywhere! |
09:27.07 | RoyK | or emacs |
09:27.09 | jeffik | Mimmus: did you see the link? |
09:27.13 | gordonjcp | for those of us who are stuck on Windows at work |
09:27.14 | Mimmus | jeffik: yesy |
09:27.18 | Mother_ | vi rocks! OMG! wohoooo! |
09:27.25 | RoyK | ;) |
09:27.28 | Mother_ | what does RoyK use? :D |
09:27.37 | serg_b | jeffik: on shell promt: cat > /usr/src/astpp-install.sh |
09:27.49 | serg_b | then paste needed text from clipboard |
09:27.50 | RoyK | hehe. os x |
09:27.58 | serg_b | then press ctrl+d |
09:27.59 | Mother_ | I tried securecrt for windoze and it sucked - the insert/escape keys could not be sent! |
09:28.08 | Mother_ | aaaaah OK |
09:28.13 | christo | what signal is sent to an AGI script when the caller hangs up? |
09:28.20 | serg_b | try telneat (serach google) |
09:28.23 | jeffik | Mimmus: did you see the script in the link? |
09:28.24 | jeffik | ok |
09:28.37 | jeffik | serg_b: you mean telnet? |
09:28.41 | Mimmus | jeffik: yes, simple script |
09:28.49 | serg_b | no. i mean telnEat |
09:28.59 | Mother_ | telneat == shellguard |
09:29.02 | serg_b | yes |
09:29.10 | jeffik | serg_b: ok |
09:29.14 | serg_b | but shellguard shareware |
09:29.27 | Mother_ | and putty is free :) |
09:29.47 | serg_b | telneat too. i used this prog for a long time. now i'm using native ssh :) |
09:29.51 | Mother_ | honestly, I've never had a problem with putty - no bells & whistles but more than enough, and has a small footprint |
09:29.56 | Mimmus | (I use SecureCRT but it's not free, we buyed licenses) |
09:30.19 | Mimmus | ssh from cygwin is good too |
09:30.26 | Mother_ | Mimmus: I tried, I have licensed VShell and Entunnel for some installs, but securecrt was of no use |
09:30.44 | serg_b | no. native :) i wasted windows few years ago and now using mandrake linux |
09:31.07 | Mimmus | Mother_: I'm using SecureCRT since 4-5 years without ONE problem |
09:31.09 | Mother_ | serg_b: me too under linux |
09:31.26 | Mother_ | Mimmus: does vi on a remote linux box work for you? |
09:31.48 | Mother_ | I found it was either insert or escape could not be sent or wasn't sent properly |
09:32.08 | Mimmus | Mother_: of course! I tried a lot of complex setup (auth with GSSAPI/Kerberos...) and it works always like a charm |
09:32.13 | jeffik | serg_b: i will get telneat back soon |
09:32.18 | Mother_ | good for you :D |
09:32.45 | serg_b | jeffik: latest is 3.27. ask yandex |
09:33.11 | Mother_ | for example, these shops that have an SSH2 tunnel to the host I tried doing with putty first, but entunnel is way better for this (automatic start, automatic reconnect, launch app when tunnel is set, etc.) |
09:33.27 | Mother_ | but for simply ssh into a remote box, putty I find just fine |
09:34.23 | jeffik | serg_b: found it on ftp in rzesow.pl |
09:34.58 | jeffik | Mother: can you talk me through it with putty? did you see the script? |
09:36.25 | serg_b | jeffik: why do you need this script? you can do it manually. |
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09:37.54 | jeffik | serg_b: i am not good i linux, and they offered this script to do the install |
09:38.23 | \etc\bin | hello all, i downloaded an xten xlite client, why does i got an 8000 rtp port? the server then blocks port 8000, it was just set to received from 10000:20000 wwhy is that |
09:38.31 | serg_b | you can do same. create script to get astpp fom cvs |
09:38.58 | serg_b | this is first 6 lines of that script |
09:39.12 | jeffik | serg_b: cpacibo, but i am not programmer |
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09:42.01 | syle | thats bs mother |
09:42.15 | syle | you just set your key bindings in securecrt |
09:44.16 | \etc\bin | anyone pls? |
09:44.27 | Mother_ | syle: when I tried it, I didn't manage to get it working, maybe I'm just stupid... |
09:44.58 | Mother_ | but putty works out of the box, and securecrt being a pay-for product I'd expect it to do the same without having to go into key bindings |
09:45.40 | Mother_ | and there is a putty for my Nokia 9500 which makes my life a lot easier :) |
09:45.51 | \etc\bin | hello all, i downloaded an xten xlite client, why does i got an 8000 rtp port? the server then blocks port 8000, it was just set to received from 10000:20000 wwhy is that |
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09:47.02 | Mother_ | \etc\bin: configure xlite for the same port range |
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09:49.42 | \etc\bin | where can i set that? |
09:50.22 | \etc\bin | thanks i got it |
09:53.01 | Mother_ | hehehe |
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09:53.34 | RoyK | morning, puowvip |
09:54.16 | RoyK | puzzled: are you aware of the slang for .nl in sign language? |
09:54.28 | puzzled | morning |
09:54.38 | puzzled | RoyK: nope |
09:54.51 | RoyK | puzzled: point finger to arm as to indicate 'syringe in there' |
09:54.52 | RoyK | :) |
09:54.56 | RoyK | i'm not kidding :) |
09:56.12 | puzzled | yeah I guess that will haunt us for a few centuries :) |
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09:56.46 | puzzled | so has freenode finally settled down or are there still massive splits? |
09:57.01 | RoyK | i haven't seen any today |
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09:57.09 | puzzled | good |
09:57.21 | puzzled | and I hope those annoying bots got kicked in the nuts too |
09:57.22 | jollyr | anyone using sangoma card? |
09:57.27 | RoyK | yup |
09:57.37 | int3_ | hey, i made a driver to asterisk work with rockwell chipsets |
09:57.42 | int3_ | voice modems, half duplex |
09:57.53 | int3_ | works :) |
09:58.08 | jollyr | i peering with vierling |
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09:58.13 | RoyK | jollyr: i just setup a box with two A104s |
09:58.15 | jollyr | GSM VTM |
09:58.23 | visik7 | int3_ url ? |
09:58.56 | int3_ | thats none yet, i not finished |
09:59.17 | int3_ | just start to implement about 2 hours ago |
09:59.18 | visik7 | int3_ ok I'm holding the breath :) |
09:59.19 | puzzled | RoyK: can you fully load 8 PRIs without transcoding? |
09:59.38 | RoyK | puzzled: doesn't look like a big issue |
09:59.41 | int3_ | but i can give you my ugly test code if u want to |
09:59.51 | RoyK | puzzled: even doing some g.729a on it, but only a little |
10:00.06 | visik7 | int3_ I'm not at home where I've my * test machine |
10:00.08 | RoyK | dual xeon64 3.2 |
10:00.26 | int3_ | ok, well, rafael@linuxbr.com |
10:00.41 | int3_ | i'll put the code online today i guess |
10:00.42 | visik7 | k |
10:00.47 | int3_ | but i need to get some sleep |
10:00.52 | visik7 | int3_ where ? |
10:00.54 | puzzled | RoyK: so no Opteron with separate PCI bridges for each card? |
10:00.55 | visik7 | :) |
10:01.19 | RoyK | puzzled: dual xeon, not opteron, but with separate PCI bridges iirc |
10:01.27 | jollyr | RoyK : i got the alrm= ALOS: ON | LOS: ON |
10:01.43 | jollyr | royk RED: ON | AIS: OFF |
10:01.44 | jollyr | OOF: ON |
10:02.09 | jollyr | i dont have reference on the E1 settings of Vierling GSM |
10:03.40 | int3_ | visik7: infralogic.com.br/ppl/rafael |
10:03.44 | puzzled | jollyr: what's Vierling? |
10:03.46 | int3_ | but i got nothing there yet |
10:04.01 | jollyr | Vierling GSM Bank |
10:04.21 | puzzled | jollyr: ah right. didn't know that one. how much are they? |
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10:09.59 | jollyr | They sell this for $9000 |
10:10.25 | jollyr | this is the link for that gsm bank |
10:10.28 | jollyr | http://www.mobilecomms-technology.com/contractors/gsm/vierling/ |
10:10.47 | Mother_ | bleeeargh |
10:10.50 | jollyr | i dont get any info about the E1 info |
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10:11.42 | puzzled | jollyr: $9000 for the Ecotel VT ot the Ecotel VT Multichannel? |
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10:14.25 | jollyr | Thats what i heared on the Owner |
10:14.43 | puzzled | ok |
10:14.51 | jollyr | this is my project outbound going to international |
10:15.30 | jollyr | gsmVTMpri-----prisangoma*-----iax----- |
10:15.58 | jollyr | but i got pissed on the setting of vierling i cannot make it sync to my e1 |
10:16.23 | RoyK | pissed? as in drunk? |
10:16.24 | RoyK | :) |
10:16.32 | Mother_ | for $9000 they should make it sink to a toilet!!! |
10:16.39 | puzzled | lol |
10:16.44 | Mother_ | s/sink/sinch |
10:16.49 | Mother_ | AAARGH! |
10:16.55 | Mother_ | I need coffee - sync |
10:16.57 | jollyr | lost of faith to work |
10:17.05 | Mother_ | thank you |
10:17.24 | puzzled | jollyr: don't know what your problem is but check the settings of the sangoma card that it gives clocking to the Vierling |
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10:18.16 | \etc\bin | im able to setup my asterisk server, my xten client get connected but i cant hear any sound |
10:18.47 | jollyr | actually this is the error logs that i have ALOS: ON | LOS: ON RED: ON | AIS: OFF OOF: ON |
10:19.13 | \etc\bin | im able to setup my asterisk server, my xten client get connected but i cant hear any sound, pls help |
10:20.04 | indego | Hi all, I have had a working Asterisk test system for a little while. I am using CAPI with ISDN. We have just started looking at implementing this at a prodection level and have therefore got some more serious ISDN cards (AVM C4 and a Cologne Chip card for NT mode to put our old PBX on). After putting the Cologne card into the system I have not been able to 'see' the C4 with a capiinfo. Any ideas? |
10:20.41 | \etc\bin | im able to setup my asterisk server, my xten client get connected but i cant hear any sound, pls help |
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10:21.43 | puzzled | \etc\bin: we have seen your question. if you get no response then either nobody knows what the problem is or they are not interested. I suggest you go to voi-info.org, search the mailinglist archives etc. to try and figure it out |
10:21.52 | indego | also, what is the future of CAPI with asterisk, the junghanns chan_capi or the new chan_capi-cm from Cytronics & Melware? |
10:21.53 | puzzled | make that voip-info.org |
10:22.02 | puzzled | indego: last one |
10:22.39 | indego | puzzled: Thanks, do you know if it is stable enough to use now? |
10:22.50 | puzzled | indego: so with the exact same config, if you remove the hfc card the C4 is visible again with capiinfo? |
10:23.01 | puzzled | indego: pvery stable for me |
10:24.00 | indego | puzzled: I have not removed the card and tested yet, but it worked before I put the Cologne card in. |
10:24.21 | puzzled | indego: and if you have issues with chan_capi-cm than Armin from Melware is very helpful. If you want additional features than you can easily hire him to do the implementation with a quick turn around |
10:24.27 | Mother_ | \etc\bin: you have the up-arrow and the enter keys stuck, check your keyboard |
10:24.40 | int3_ | i can implement code for u guys |
10:24.41 | int3_ | haha |
10:24.46 | indego | Problem is pulling the server in and out of the rack is a PITA |
10:25.06 | Mother_ | rotfl |
10:25.10 | int3_ | code for f00d |
10:25.21 | Mother_ | he went to have his keyboard checked I guess |
10:25.32 | puzzled | indego: get sliding rails :) |
10:26.41 | indego | puzzled: ;) Sadly it is just a 'desktop' and not a 19" that can be mounted properly... |
10:27.25 | puzzled | indego: also make sure you have the latest bristuff (version "n" iirc) and read the docs in there. I think there was a reference what to avoid if you have multiple cards in the box |
10:28.39 | puzzled | hehe, new SCO financials are available |
10:29.31 | puzzled | never mind, available on sept. 7 |
10:30.31 | indego | Linux Driver wise for the hfc card, do you need this mISDN stuff in the kernel? I have been just using the CAPI2.0 support in the 2.6 kernel up until now. I am needing to re-check everything here. I am not sure if I should be using CAPI4Linux or mISDN with ISDN4Linux. I was under the impression when I started that CAPI3L was the way to go, but things seem to be migrating back to ISDN4L with this mISDN stuff. |
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10:35.26 | puzzled | indego: I use only the capi stuff included in the kernel and chan_capi-cm with my Eicon Diva Server BRI card. afaik mISDN is not production ready and I think (not sure) you don't need isdn4linux at all for a C4 |
10:36.05 | Mimmus | buon appetito/good lunch |
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10:38.08 | Akelavlk | Hello, I got error "chan_zap.c:778 zt_open: Unable to specify channel 1: No such device or address" |
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10:38.37 | Akelavlk | ztcfg is running properly.. Also zttest.. |
10:38.51 | Akelavlk | One day I just restart Asterisk.. |
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10:39.16 | indego | puzzled: I was just thinking, I think that the kernel CAPI stuff is good for the AVM and Eicon cards, but the drivers for the HFC cards are included with the mISDN stuff. This is why I have been getting confused between the two options. I think that I need both, in part. I also want / need to use hylafax too. That aslo adds to the mix. So I think that I need to patch the kernel with *some* of the I4L and mISDN stuff for the new HFC card and leave the rest as |
10:39.20 | jollyr | reload zap channel |
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10:40.21 | Akelavlk | jollyr I did it many times.. |
10:40.28 | puzzled | indego: for hfc cards you can use bristuff from junghanns.net *or* mISDN. Since mISDN requires you to mess with the kernel and stuff I'd go for bristuff |
10:42.42 | indego | puzzled: OK, thanks. All I want to do with that card is get our old phones to ring too when we get calls. |
10:42.47 | Mother_ | Akelavlk: have you tried powering down *fully* then restarting after a couple of minutes? |
10:43.12 | Mother_ | i.e. not reboot, power down, take a coffee break, restart |
10:43.14 | puzzled | indego: bristuff allows NT mode. read the docs. which distro do you use? |
10:43.30 | indego | puzzled: Debian |
10:43.43 | indego | Sarge (3.1) |
10:43.50 | puzzled | indego: ok, my rpms won't help you then |
10:44.10 | indego | :) but thanks |
10:44.18 | indego | I will look at getting the src |
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10:44.44 | jollyr | what about building zap channel first then install the driver of ISDN |
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10:45.02 | mover | yo |
10:45.41 | christo | Does anybody know how to get an AGI script to detect when the caller hangs up? I've tried trapping INT, KILL and TERM, but the script doesn't die! |
10:46.54 | RoyK | christo: iirc you should never use Dial from an AGI script. |
10:47.46 | Akelavlk | jollyr, what is ISDN driver? |
10:48.37 | RoyK | jollyr: sangoma is working on a native non-zaptel driver |
10:48.50 | RoyK | jollyr: using zaptel with sangoma is suboptimal |
10:49.08 | jollyr | how can used that |
10:50.07 | jollyr | this is what ive done in my intallation.. |
10:50.21 | jollyr | based on the Readme of sangoma |
10:50.58 | jollyr | i compile zaptel then i install wanpipe |
10:51.07 | christo | RoyK - you mean $agi->exec('Dial','Zap/g1/xxxxxxx'); is a bad thing? What does this have to do with detecting hangups? |
10:51.09 | Akelavlk | wanpipe? |
10:51.33 | jollyr | i load the wanrouter first then ztcfg -vvvv then the asterisk...it load fine |
10:51.56 | jollyr | my problem is only signalling ang framing method used by the Vierling PRI |
10:52.11 | Akelavlk | Aha.. |
10:52.55 | Akelavlk | And what switchtype are you using in zapata.conf? |
10:53.26 | jollyr | span=1,0,0,cas,hdb3,crc4 |
10:53.26 | jollyr | # Span 1 |
10:53.26 | jollyr | bchan=1-15,17-31 |
10:53.26 | jollyr | dchan=16 |
10:53.29 | jollyr | loadzone=us |
10:53.34 | jollyr | national |
10:53.39 | jollyr | pri_cpe |
10:55.31 | Akelavlk | So primary problem was signalling method? |
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10:56.12 | jollyr | yes |
10:56.44 | djin_ib | Is there a CVS version that's stable enough for production (I'd like to use Realtime)? |
10:57.16 | Akelavlk | Ok, I will check that. |
10:57.34 | jollyr | Akelavlk: do you know what vieling Vtme signalling used? |
10:57.54 | Akelavlk | No.. |
10:58.27 | Akelavlk | I think, problem is in zapata.conf, may be in signalling. I will try set diffrent signlaing method.. |
10:59.39 | Akelavlk | I used fxo_ks and fxs_ks signalling before. |
11:02.16 | jollyr | instead of signalling=pri_cpe |
11:04.14 | Akelavlk | I got this "chan_zap.c:6251 mkintf: Signalling requested is PRI Signalling but line is in FXO Kewlstart signalling" |
11:05.35 | Akelavlk | Hmm, I seems that is not signalling problem. |
11:05.55 | jollyr | so this is during asterisk loading |
11:06.04 | jollyr | you cannot load asterisk service... |
11:09.41 | Mother_ | Akelavlk: what card have you got? |
11:09.41 | X-Rob | Akelavlk - It means you've stuffed up zapata.conf |
11:09.53 | X-Rob | ooh |
11:11.15 | jeffik | Mother: hello |
11:11.25 | Mother_ | hi jeffik |
11:11.36 | jeffik | serg-b got it running for me |
11:11.40 | Akelavlk | Mother_ I have TDM400P |
11:11.51 | jeffik | so thank you and thank Mimmus |
11:11.53 | Mother_ | nice! |
11:11.59 | jollyr | sangoma A101 |
11:12.04 | jeffik | it's calling card software |
11:12.15 | Mother_ | Akelavlk: what boards with, FXO or FXS? |
11:12.17 | Akelavlk | X-Rob What do you mean stuffed up? |
11:12.22 | jeffik | http://www.aleph-com.net/astpp/index.php?n=ASTPP.InstallScript |
11:12.23 | Akelavlk | Yes, that one.. |
11:12.50 | Mother_ | LOL it's FXO *or* FXS, they can be mixed, but what do you have? |
11:13.04 | Mother_ | i.e. you could have two of each, etc |
11:13.15 | Guggemand | i have this sucky sip provider which gives me "wrong password on authentication for REGISTER" once in a while .... that seems to stop asterisk from trying to register again, what do i need to change to get it to retry ? |
11:13.32 | Mother_ | jeffik: very nice indeed |
11:14.04 | Akelavlk | I have One FXS and one FXO |
11:14.19 | Akelavlk | FXS at channel 1 and FXO at 4. |
11:14.33 | Akelavlk | You know, developer version. |
11:14.33 | Mother_ | hmmm why not on channel 1 and 2? |
11:14.40 | Mother_ | ok whatever |
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11:15.04 | jollyr | anyone knows the Vierling VTMe signalling and framing? |
11:15.27 | Akelavlk | Anyway, it was working. And one day I restarted asterisk, and it's not working now.. I use also my old-working config files. But it's not working anyway.. |
11:15.31 | Mother_ | then you should have in zapata.conf something like signalling=fxo_ks for channel 1 and signalling=fxs_ks for channel 4 |
11:15.52 | Akelavlk | I have it. |
11:15.55 | jontow | does the dialplan implement less-than / greater-than magic-fu? |
11:15.58 | Mother_ | did you get my comment earlier, about powering off completely for a few minutes then rebooting? |
11:16.13 | jontow | specifically, GotoIf() |
11:16.23 | Akelavlk | Yes... |
11:16.42 | Akelavlk | Power is OK. Also ztcfg show that channels are configured correctly.. |
11:16.50 | Akelavlk | But asterisk show errors.. |
11:18.26 | Mother_ | don't know then, other than a failed card |
11:18.55 | Ogun | On callback agents, is there any way to get * to play ring signals to the customer when the agents phone rings? |
11:19.10 | Akelavlk | Yes, it's not about failed card.. LED are lighting when I install driver.. |
11:19.32 | Mother_ | oh, I had a LED OK, driver OK, all OK and a busted FXO board |
11:21.06 | Akelavlk | How can I check if hardware is working properly or not? |
11:21.29 | Mother_ | well in your case I don't know, maybe digium support could give you specific things to try |
11:21.52 | Mother_ | in my case, I wasn't getting audio on the PSTN line |
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11:22.36 | Akelavlk | Aha, Ok. Thanks for help anyway.. |
11:23.13 | jontow | (btw, yes there is less-than, greater-than functionality) |
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11:29.06 | sivana | I need an usability opinion... should a calling card be able to support multiple caller ids for auto-login? |
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11:35.41 | Goshen | That would be convinient for the user |
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11:42.22 | puzzled | since HEAD now can use speex-1.1.x does anyone know if you can install speex-1.1.x next to speex-1.0.x? |
11:42.36 | Druken | sivana: i don't get what you mean... multipul caller id's |
11:42.59 | Druken | you mean allow more than one ani use the callingcard? |
11:44.02 | Delvar | but then u get teh probelm of them calling in from all teh phones at teh same time... how willyou bill that? or jsut not allow multiple calls. |
11:45.11 | Druken | i personally wouldn't have an autologin for callingcards... |
11:45.26 | Druken | callingcards imoho are for payphones... hehe |
11:45.30 | Delvar | callerid is easily faked |
11:46.39 | indego | puzzled: Some feedback, I removed the HFC card and shuffled the PCI cards to how they were before (I was trying to make sure that the 2 cards would not share an IRQ). Booted and a capiinfo showed the C4 ports. I then re-inserted the HFC card in a different location and booted. C4 is still recognised and the HFC card shows in an lspci. All OK. It was probably a PCI slot issue. |
11:47.07 | puzzled | indego: cool |
11:47.40 | indego | Odd thing is is that both the cards showed in a lspci in the not-working setup... |
11:48.15 | indego | puzzled: Starting to play with bristuff now :) |
11:49.12 | puzzled | indego: for me the last one worked fine with latest cvs from the v1-0 trunk |
11:49.52 | indego | Will also look at upgrading to the new chan_capi from the SF project. Do you know why Junghanns stopped work on this? |
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11:51.49 | puzzled | indego: dunno but the fact that he does not sell capi cards and he does sell HFC based cards with bristuff should give a clue :) |
11:52.50 | indego | :) Good point. |
11:54.50 | puzzled | because they were abducted |
11:55.20 | indego | RoyK: security, if you can't type it, you can't login. |
11:56.37 | RoyK | ~lart indego |
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12:05.07 | lathos42 | Good Morning |
12:08.28 | lathos42 | Anyone got some neat tricks I could setup this morning to impress the company president when I pitch * to her this morning? |
12:08.35 | Mimmus | good morning (it's afternoon) |
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12:09.21 | lathos42 | Did I say morning? I meant afternoon |
12:09.24 | MmmmToop | lathos42: why dont you dance, or sing or something ; ) |
12:09.25 | lathos42 | yeah.. afternoon |
12:09.56 | lathos42 | MmmmToop: Naah, nobody wants to see that |
12:10.02 | puzzled | lathos42: when his mistress calls on his office phone automatically redirect to his gsm or generate an "out of order tone" |
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12:12.18 | wasim | <PROTECTED> |
12:12.37 | puzzled | hi wasim |
12:12.40 | lathos42 | puzzled: What do you call the person on the side when its a woman? a Mister? |
12:13.33 | Mimmus | what are the 'search directory' applications currently used for Asterisk? |
12:13.54 | puzzled | Mimmus: app_directory. do a show applications |
12:14.03 | puzzled | lathos42: mistress |
12:14.45 | lathos42 | puzzled: What i'm saying is that our president is a woman, so unless she's into that sort of thing, she wouldnt probably have a mistress |
12:14.57 | netsurfer | mmmm lol |
12:15.05 | puzzled | lathos42: ah right. uhm, how about "toy boy"? |
12:15.08 | X-Rob | 'mmm lol' |
12:15.15 | Mimmus | puzzled: I have it. On my AsteriskAtHome I have a PHP AGI application too |
12:15.16 | X-Rob | allways makes me think of the song 'mmm bop' |
12:15.23 | X-Rob | and makes me want to kill someone. |
12:15.28 | X-Rob | usually the person who says 'mmm lol' |
12:15.35 | X-Rob | especially because they're never actually 'lol'ing. |
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12:15.44 | lehel | hello |
12:15.44 | puzzled | lol |
12:15.55 | netsurfer | mmmm lol |
12:15.58 | netsurfer | ;) |
12:16.09 | X-Rob | lol does not mean 'I found that mildly funny'. It means 'laughing out loud'. |
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12:16.30 | X-Rob | I think the planet would would be depleted of oxygen if everyone who actually typed 'lol' was 'lol'ing. |
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12:16.32 | netsurfer | which I did, prove I didnt ;) |
12:17.33 | puzzled | X-Rob: but then we would have world peace |
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12:17.53 | X-Rob | true. |
12:18.00 | X-Rob | but I don't actually consider that a good thing. |
12:18.16 | X-Rob | (you know, the whole 'dead' thing kinda sucks) |
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12:19.18 | lathos42 | I do know one thing.. I'm going to remove the line for Festival.. Festival doesnt make a good Technology demo :) |
12:19.43 | Mimmus | lathos42: why? it is not so bad |
12:20.14 | lathos42 | Mimmus: It must be something with the default voice Gentoo installs then.. I could barely understand it |
12:20.36 | Mimmus | lathos42: I tried also italian voice and it's not too bad |
12:20.36 | puzzled | lathos42: if you have $30 to spare get the cepstral Diane voice and use that as a demo |
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12:22.33 | Mimmus | I'm just trying to make AsteriskAtHome directory search application speaks Festival instead of using SayAlpha |
12:23.01 | lathos42 | puzzled: I'm not going to worry about it today.. I know there are better voices out there, and they barely want an IVR answering the line sometimes.. so I have to introduce things in baby steps |
12:23.34 | puzzled | lathos42: sure, makes sense |
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12:43.57 | jac]Z[oby | N0000000 SUSE 8.2 |
12:44.07 | jac]Z[oby | *urge to stab rising* |
12:46.14 | DrukenWrk | uhg.... |
12:46.25 | DrukenWrk | who wants to work for me today so i can go back to bed? |
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12:50.08 | crash3m | I'll work for you, if you'll sleep for me |
12:50.46 | DrukenWrk | sounds like a plan :) |
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12:55.26 | tobiasWolf | can anyboy tell me if it is possible to use an gsm modem with asterisk ? |
12:55.57 | Katty | hi lads. |
12:56.13 | DrukenWrk | hey Katty |
12:56.22 | DrukenWrk | did you make that loaf of bread ? :) |
12:57.03 | Katty | all proper bread is made at home, by hand. |
12:57.10 | Katty | none of this silly bread machine stuff. |
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12:57.38 | DrukenWrk | nothing better than the smell of fresh bread out of the oven |
12:58.02 | puzzled | Druken: yeah that's nice |
12:58.03 | Katty | mhmm. |
12:58.15 | Katty | DrukenWrk: the recipe is on my vegan blog if you're interested. |
12:58.30 | DrukenWrk | Katty: your a vegan ? |
12:58.52 | Katty | Yes. |
12:59.26 | gordonjcp | mmm bread |
12:59.39 | gordonjcp | isn't bread kind of inherently vegan? |
12:59.43 | DrukenWrk | neat, i couldn't live like that.. |
12:59.59 | Katty | gordonjcp: except when they put milk, egg, or cheese in it. |
13:00.07 | gordonjcp | Katty: mmm |
13:00.20 | gordonjcp | I tend not to put that in bread |
13:00.34 | gordonjcp | sometimes I glaze the top with milk, but mostly I just dust it with flour |
13:00.57 | gordonjcp | actually about half the stuff I cook is pretty much safe for vegans |
13:01.18 | gordonjcp | as long as they're not incredibly picky about the possibility of cross-contamination |
13:01.33 | gordonjcp | like, entirely separate utensils picky? |
13:01.38 | Katty | Yes. |
13:01.48 | Katty | I don't want bits of meat in my food. |
13:01.57 | gordonjcp | that's why you wash things... |
13:02.03 | Katty | Indeed. |
13:02.07 | Katty | DrukenWrk: :< |
13:02.24 | gordonjcp | but I wouldn't keep a separate set of pans, knives etc purely for cooking vegan food |
13:02.33 | Katty | neither would i. |
13:02.46 | sivana | I need a usability opinion... should a calling card be able to support multiple caller ids for auto-login? |
13:02.49 | gordonjcp | well no, because you presumably wouldn't cook meat anyway |
13:03.14 | gordonjcp | man, a vegan cat |
13:03.29 | DrukenWrk | i'm curious... where do you get protein from if you don't eat meat or eggs ? |
13:03.36 | Katty | nuts, eggs, soy |
13:03.38 | Katty | tofu |
13:03.40 | Katty | beans |
13:03.41 | Katty | oh. |
13:03.42 | gordonjcp | -eggs? |
13:03.43 | Katty | not eggs |
13:03.52 | gordonjcp | pulses |
13:03.52 | Katty | nuts, beans, soy, tofu (which is soy) |
13:04.00 | gordonjcp | cereals |
13:04.11 | Katty | those don't have a whole lot of protein though. |
13:04.12 | sivana | what's wrong with eggs for vegans? |
13:04.15 | gordonjcp | most people get way, way too much protein in their diet |
13:04.20 | Katty | Not nearly as much as chili or peanuts. |
13:04.31 | gordonjcp | sivana: animal product |
13:04.35 | Katty | sivana: it's a combination of the way chickens are treated and how it could have been a living creature. |
13:04.37 | sivana | ah |
13:04.43 | gordonjcp | sivana: they're iffy for some vegetarians too |
13:04.49 | Katty | sivana: it is a commercialized animal biproduct. |
13:05.01 | sivana | I see |
13:05.06 | gordonjcp | Katty: in my experience hens just kind of run about and lay eggs |
13:05.10 | sivana | plants are living creatures :P |
13:05.10 | gordonjcp | <shrug> |
13:05.17 | Katty | gordonjcp: on normal farms, yes. |
13:05.27 | Katty | sivana: indeed. |
13:05.42 | Meaty-Wrk | Hi all ! I Use IAX protocol to connect Zap on a ChannelsBank to a PRI. And sometimes Zap clients get echo. Anyone know all can cause this problems ? I use JitterBuffer, ulaw codecs and echo cancelation and training on Zap. |
13:05.44 | Katty | gordonjcp: unfortunately, most commercialized farms, chickens are kept in little cages. |
13:05.46 | sivana | resistance is futile :) |
13:05.57 | gordonjcp | Katty: I don't get eggs from commercial farms |
13:06.01 | Katty | gordonjcp: and then, when they're past their prime, they're killed to make way for newer more productive hends. |
13:06.03 | gordonjcp | I have henns |
13:06.05 | gordonjcp | -n |
13:06.08 | Katty | gordonjcp: good for you :) |
13:06.44 | Katty | milk is another iffy topic. it is illegal to buy milk straight from a farm. |
13:07.08 | DrukenWrk | i must say this now... that "super size me" movie... i laughed at it.. cause the guy was a vegan before he did a full month of solid mcdonalds... of course he would blimp out like he did and have medical problems |
13:07.10 | DrukenWrk | :) |
13:07.14 | Katty | if it /was/ legal to buy straight from a farm that cared for their animals and didn't over milk them and give them shots just to keep them alive....then ship them off when they got too old...............then i'd probably drink cows milk. |
13:07.51 | gordonjcp | well, tbh, I don't have them, 'cos I live in a city. A mate of mine that lives near my house up north has them |
13:08.09 | gordonjcp | Katty: well, it *is* |
13:08.16 | Katty | putting calves into little crates where they can barely turn around...then feeding them a liquid only diet to keep them anemic for veal. that's just disgusting. |
13:08.41 | DrukenWrk | viel is nasty... |
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13:08.54 | DrukenWrk | veal even |
13:09.00 | Katty | veal is baby cow without sunshine for 2 years :< |
13:09.38 | tzanger | Katty: it's trivial to find whole milk from small farms, at least around here |
13:09.47 | DrukenWrk | well, i've only had veal once, it was soo nasty i threw up |
13:09.47 | Katty | tzanger: hmm? |
13:09.59 | gordonjcp | veal isn't that great |
13:10.05 | tzanger | I am actually reading and learning about more animal husbandry in order to raise chickens myself |
13:10.08 | gordonjcp | can't understand why people like it |
13:10.14 | tzanger | fresh eggs and meat |
13:10.18 | Katty | tzanger: i see. |
13:10.19 | tzanger | cattle are too big for me |
13:10.21 | gordonjcp | tzanger: get hens, build a coop, buy layer's mash |
13:10.31 | gordonjcp | pretty straightforward |
13:10.33 | sivana | heh |
13:10.35 | puzzled | tzanger: they like a few drops of beer with their salad |
13:10.44 | Katty | tzanger: i would recommend not getting attached to your chickens. |
13:10.54 | tzanger | Katty: nope |
13:10.54 | gordonjcp | they do live quite a while, you'd be surprised |
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13:11.10 | gordonjcp | if you just let them run about all the time you will lose loads of them to dogs and foxes |
13:11.13 | tzanger | Katty: my 5yo daughter has already expressed her interesting in "growing chickens" in order to get meat, which surprised me |
13:11.25 | gordonjcp | tzanger: that's good, though |
13:11.29 | tzanger | gordonjcp: yes but layers take a year to get to laying age do they not? |
13:11.30 | Katty | tzanger: if she gets attached to them, she'll probably change her mind. |
13:11.35 | gordonjcp | tzanger: about that |
13:11.37 | wasim | tzanger: good on 'er |
13:11.38 | tzanger | Katty: I dunno, my little girl is surprising |
13:11.41 | Katty | tzanger: k |
13:11.48 | tzanger | friers are what, 3 or 4 months? |
13:11.56 | gordonjcp | depends |
13:11.58 | DrukenWrk | who in their right mind would want a chicken as a pet? |
13:12.00 | Katty | i wouldn't know. |
13:12.04 | Katty | DrukenWrk: i had two pet chickens. |
13:12.11 | gordonjcp | DrukenWrk: you can't house train them, I know that |
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13:12.23 | DrukenWrk | my cat is lucky i haven't drowned it yet |
13:12.29 | Katty | DrukenWrk: :< |
13:12.37 | tzanger | the only thing I'm concerned about is them getting toward the road, I want them to free range but I'd have to either set up a "chicken box" (say 100 sq foot fence on wheels) or fence in a large area |
13:12.55 | tzanger | DrukenWrk: who's got chickens for pets? I have a puppy and kitten |
13:13.08 | gordonjcp | tzanger: make a movable coop |
13:13.14 | DrukenWrk | tzanger: she was saying getting attached to the chickens |
13:13.18 | gordonjcp | shunt it about every few days |
13:13.18 | tzanger | ahh |
13:13.38 | tzanger | well my mom had a goat, sheep, chickens, rabbits... hell she even ate teh goat when his time came |
13:13.54 | gordonjcp | so they've got a sheltered bit you can shut them in at night, and a wire mesh bit they can run about in |
13:14.10 | tzanger | gordonjcp: *nods* |
13:14.17 | asteriskph | im trying to call from sp to fxo... but we cant hear each other.. the sp always says SESSIOn PROGRESS but the other party already answer the call |
13:14.18 | gordonjcp | stick wheels on the shelter end (heaviest), so you can pick it up and push it about |
13:14.31 | gordonjcp | and then rake the chicken shit into the ground |
13:14.39 | bjohnson | asteriskDOTbz: what do you think this is? an asterisk channel? |
13:14.42 | asteriskph | anyone there... |
13:14.50 | tzanger | gordonjcp: *nods* |
13:14.57 | gordonjcp | Voice over Chicken, here |
13:15.13 | bjohnson | tzanger <- down home on the farm with Jimmy Dean |
13:15.19 | tzanger | bjohnson: heh |
13:15.26 | gordonjcp | you record your message on a dictaphone, tie the dictaphone tape to the chicken, and then the person at the other end shakes a plastic corn sack |
13:15.28 | tzanger | shush you or I'll make you drive over to feed 'em when I travel :-) |
13:15.35 | bjohnson | heh |
13:15.36 | gordonjcp | the chicken runs to them, and they play the tape back |
13:15.45 | tzanger | gordonjcp: you've thought about this far too much |
13:15.52 | gordonjcp | works great if there aren't any roads in the way |
13:15.55 | bjohnson | tape is sooo analog |
13:16.06 | gordonjcp | tzanger: the latency is hellish |
13:16.14 | bjohnson | digital voice recorder is THE ONLY way to go |
13:16.18 | tzanger | gordonjcp: yes and a bit jittery too depending on the interest and other distractions to the chicken |
13:16.19 | gordonjcp | but it's really good on bandwidth |
13:16.23 | gordonjcp | yeah |
13:16.27 | DrukenWrk | hehehe |
13:16.38 | gordonjcp | if you go to ostriches you can use 1/2" Ampex |
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13:16.43 | tzanger | gordonjcp: no I think VoOxen would be better bandwidth... chickens can't carry too much |
13:16.43 | bjohnson | asteriskDOTbz: what's sp? |
13:17.02 | DrukenWrk | gordonjcp: to save on the latency, stick a bottle rocket up the chickens ass |
13:17.05 | gordonjcp | heh |
13:17.21 | tzanger | DrukenWrk: yes but that kind of eliminates the reusability of the chicken, even if it does survive |
13:17.29 | tzanger | it won't go anywhere near you for the next packet |
13:17.42 | DrukenWrk | true enough |
13:18.41 | sivana | I need a usability opinion... should a calling card be able to support multiple caller ids for auto-login? |
13:18.44 | gordonjcp | there is actually a place in north India where they send and receive email with no outside Internet connection at all |
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13:18.49 | Pkunk | man thats some jitter |
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13:18.54 | gordonjcp | they have a guy go round twice a day on a motorbike |
13:19.00 | gordonjcp | with a removable hard disk |
13:19.08 | Pkunk | the chicken would need a HUGE jitter buffer |
13:19.23 | gordonjcp | pick up and drop off mail at each internet cafe, then back to base where he has dialup |
13:19.39 | gordonjcp | how hardcore is that? |
13:20.03 | DrukenWrk | sounds a lil stupid... hehehe damn third world countries |
13:20.31 | Pkunk | DrukenWrk: where you from ? |
13:20.36 | DrukenWrk | course, i can't imagine not having a simple thing as a phoneline |
13:20.40 | DrukenWrk | but some people don't... |
13:20.58 | DrukenWrk | Pkunk: canada |
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13:21.54 | gordonjcp | DrukenWrk: there are places where there are phones, but they're not good enough for modems |
13:22.07 | Katty | why do people still think i'm a newbie? |
13:22.15 | Katty | that's amusing. |
13:22.25 | gordonjcp | Katty: ? |
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13:23.24 | DrukenWrk | Katty: probably because your a chick, and alot of guys probably assume your computer stupid... ??? |
13:23.42 | Katty | cute :) |
13:24.00 | DrukenWrk | i'm serious... |
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13:26.32 | gordonjcp | yeah, that's probably it |
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13:29.20 | bjohnson | I'm trying to use mplayer for MOH and it's working great. Is more stable than mpg123 and can play a stream from slimplayer that lame and others cannot |
13:29.36 | lehel | Aug 30 16:29:11 NOTICE[1935]: chan_iax2.c:7085 socket_read: Rejected connect attempt from 172.24.2.15, requested/capability 0x400/0x60e incompatible with our capability 0xf800. |
13:29.53 | lehel | anyone any idea .. why is this for? |
13:30.12 | bjohnson | I have one problem .. I set up a daily cron job to kill it and restart it. My cron reporting can't get past it since mplayer keeps sending stream updates. |
13:30.41 | bjohnson | any ideas? I start it with a '&' within the cron job to run it in the background |
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13:31.40 | Ganlron | Any idea on this error http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/error.txt ? |
13:33.44 | Ganlron | extensions.conf: http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/extensions.conf and zapata.conf: http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/zapata.conf |
13:35.08 | sivana | what is the typical temp of a server room? 68F? |
13:35.16 | Pkunk | i'm recieving incoming calls from LAN to asterisk via SIP , and then users use a voice menu to place outgoing calls to other numbers |
13:35.41 | Pkunk | how do i set it so that asterisk forces client to use same codec as the outgoing call ? |
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13:36.38 | marrandy | hello everyone |
13:36.40 | Pkunk | sometimes client uses ilbc , and outgoing call is in ulaw so it seems to reduces call quality |
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13:37.20 | RoyK | does chan_sip support several different registrations yet? |
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13:37.33 | marrandy | progdocs - dot not found - which application do I need to install ? |
13:37.41 | Pkunk | pproblem is outgoing call codec is determined by the VOIP provider .. so it keeps changing , sometimes its even g729 |
13:38.08 | DrukenWrk | iky... csolve.. |
13:39.06 | RoyK | hm. does chan_sip/sip.conf/realtime allow for disabling users without deleting them? |
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13:39.17 | DrukenWrk | oh... Ganlron is on a csolve machine.... |
13:40.12 | DrukenWrk | i wonder if les is going ahead and going to try and become a voip provider on his own |
13:40.55 | Ganlron | haha |
13:41.05 | DrukenWrk | :) |
13:41.06 | Ganlron | I work for Les :P |
13:41.25 | DrukenWrk | well, i kinda know that :) |
13:41.45 | puzzled | RoyK: in the last few days there have been major commits to the sip parts. check the cvs ml and see if it's in there |
13:42.02 | Pkunk | so , should i use canreinvite ? |
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13:42.23 | Ganlron | Ahhh James :) |
13:42.31 | Pkunk | what setting will make it to "retrain" the client to same codec as outgoing ? |
13:42.32 | puzzled | marrandy: you can set HAVE_DOT = NO in contrib/asterisk-ng-doxygen |
13:43.06 | puzzled | Pkunk: don't think it is possible to change codec once the call is setup |
13:43.38 | Pkunk | puzzled: well initially the client connects and uses a Voice interactive menu to place outgoing call |
13:44.16 | puzzled | Pkunk: then maybe catch which codec is used, hang up the call to the client and call it back with that codec |
13:44.17 | Ganlron | Kinda just playing with Asterisk on the side atm, think I'm having problems with incoming/outgoing on the FXO, I can see the call incoming and I can make it ring the phone on the FXS, but it seems to have a problem communicating back through the FXO.. not sure what |
13:45.15 | Pkunk | puzzled: i guess its easier to just force client to only ulaw/alaw since i dont have bandwidth problem in LAN ? |
13:45.49 | gordonjcp | Katty: re newb thing - we have a couple of young women in our CE team, they get loads of "when's the real engineer coming" kind of comments |
13:45.49 | puzzled | Pkunk: yes |
13:45.55 | gordonjcp | it's a total pita |
13:46.18 | marrandy | puzzled: ok - but I know I fixed this before, I just didn't make a not of the file I added. |
13:46.27 | marrandy | not=note |
13:46.35 | gordonjcp | although to be honest one of them is about as stupid as it's possible to be and still be considered conscious |
13:47.47 | DrukenWrk | Ganlron: do i know you personally? :) |
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13:48.38 | t-pa | hey, I am running a php AGI script, the script is ran on INVITE, ACK and BYE. On INVITE the agi_extension field is the 'called number'. on ACK the field is 't' and on BYE it's 'h'... Anybody has any idea what they mean? |
13:49.17 | puzzled | t = timeout, h = hangup |
13:49.57 | t-pa | ofcoz.. thanks... |
13:50.05 | Ganlron | I think I've talked to you a few times, plus didn't you goto the BLUG meetings? |
13:50.15 | DrukenWrk | newp |
13:50.45 | Ganlron | ah |
13:51.44 | Katty | gordonjcp: yeah, i get that all the time too. it's friggin annoying. |
13:52.02 | gordonjcp | Katty: my gf used to get that when she worked at Fuji, too |
13:52.47 | Katty | what's even more annoying is when you talk to dell and they don't seem to know what it is you're talking about |
13:53.02 | RoyK | Katty: who? |
13:53.32 | Katty | RoyK: some asian guy. |
13:53.46 | RoyK | The Generic Asian Guy |
13:53.49 | Ganlron | So did anyone have any thoughts on this error? :) http://users.csolve.net/~derek/asterisk/error.txt |
13:53.55 | Katty | yup. |
13:54.24 | DrukenWrk | Ganlron: the problem is in your zapata.conf |
13:54.37 | DrukenWrk | your throwing your incoming call into your outgoing context |
13:54.39 | RoyK | Ganlron: rtfm :) |
13:55.15 | Katty | what part of Give Me My License Number don't you understand?! |
13:55.29 | Katty | I even have the last four digits. this should not take 45 minutes! |
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13:56.11 | Katty | Ganlron: sorry, i don't. But if you wait about 30 more minutes, there will be people in here that can help you. Not just bitter idiots ;) |
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13:57.07 | DrukenWrk | Katty: i already answered his problem |
13:57.12 | Katty | DrukenWrk: k |
13:58.04 | gordonjcp | Katty: not even some fairly limited thoughts involving small squeaky things and sleeping a lot? |
13:58.15 | Ganlron | I just have to figure out how to correct it now :) |
13:58.59 | DrukenWrk | Ganlron: i'll fix it for ya.. :) i have a reasonable hourly rate :) |
13:59.36 | Ganlron | heh, ya don't think Les would go for that :P He doesn't really want me spending a lot of time on it |
14:00.02 | gordonjcp | Ganlron: what exactly is it supposed to do? |
14:00.15 | lathos42 | Katty: Is the call getting quieter and quieter as you get transferred each time? |
14:00.39 | DrukenWrk | Ganlron: this is something for csolve, or something for home? |
14:00.49 | DrukenWrk | you already ahve the voip phonesystem... |
14:01.22 | Ganlron | it's something I'm tinkering with atm, if I can get it working well enough can probably easily convince Les to drop our crappy Toshiba VOIP system :P |
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14:01.38 | Ganlron | MTN charges something like $5000 to add a new extension :P |
14:01.50 | lehel | does anyone has any idea about transferring calls on CAPI? it is possible? |
14:01.57 | DrukenWrk | hahaha that nasty thing on the wall upstairs across from his office, with 16 analog lines going into it :) |
14:02.11 | Ganlron | That would be it :) |
14:02.56 | Ganlron | I don't know why he decided to put it in Midland, I have at least half a dozen PRIs here I could use for it :) |
14:03.20 | DrukenWrk | hehehe he doesn't know how a pri works... that's why |
14:04.23 | Ganlron | we're down to only using about half a DS3 out of the OC3 for modems.. so lots of room |
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14:05.33 | lathos42 | Hmmhesays: Keep waitin |
14:05.35 | Katty | Hmmhesays: dell is treating me like shit. |
14:05.39 | Katty | Hmmhesays: fix it. |
14:05.50 | Katty | Hmmhesays: all i need is an 8 digit number. i even have the last 4 |
14:06.03 | Hmmhesays | what are they doing? |
14:06.20 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i called microsoft /first/ and they said talk to your reseller. this is your reseller, this is their phone number. kthxbi |
14:06.24 | bluesky | hi, i updated the kernel and now when installing zaptel i get this message: You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.9-1.667smp kernel installed. |
14:06.25 | Katty | so i've been on the phone for an HOUR now |
14:06.25 | Katty | transfered 6 times |
14:06.29 | Katty | and now their all lolzwedon'thavethatkthxbi |
14:06.47 | bluesky | how do i change the `uname -r` |
14:06.57 | Hmmhesays | ok what info are you looking for? |
14:07.01 | lehel | WARNING[30904]: cdr.c:421 ast_cdr_free: CDR on channel 'IAX2/290@290-2' not posted |
14:07.07 | lehel | what is happening? |
14:07.17 | Katty | and i was all ooh no you don't do that to me. i called microsoft FIRST and they said YOU"D have it. |
14:07.19 | Nugget | you don't "change the uname". uname reflects what kernel you are running. |
14:07.20 | Katty | with added bitchbitchbitch |
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14:07.43 | Hmmhesays | so what information are you looking for? |
14:08.29 | gordonjcp | Katty: it's only four digits you need, you could have guessed it by now |
14:08.39 | Katty | Hmmhesays: license number. |
14:08.51 | Katty | gordonjcp: no, it's not. |
14:08.52 | Hmmhesays | what happened to the other 4 digits? |
14:08.55 | Katty | gordonjcp: don't presume to tell me what it is i need :) |
14:09.09 | Hmmhesays | vaacum cleaner? |
14:09.27 | Katty | Hmmhesays: they're **** on the paper |
14:09.32 | Katty | no |
14:09.32 | Katty | they're not listed. |
14:09.32 | Katty | i have no license number. |
14:09.39 | Katty | just the last 4 digits. |
14:09.44 | Hmmhesays | odd, what do you need the license number for? |
14:10.03 | Katty | Hmmhesays: to renew the software assurance on small business server 2000 |
14:10.09 | Katty | to renew, you must add your agreement on microsoft's website |
14:10.17 | Katty | and to add your agreement, you must have your full license numbe |
14:10.22 | Katty | r |
14:10.27 | Katty | except, on their notice, they didn't PUT the full number. |
14:10.42 | Hmmhesays | did you call tech support or sales? |
14:11.34 | Hmmhesays | I told dell they were going to send me a new laptop one time, they did. |
14:11.41 | Katty | i called the number on the renewal notice first. |
14:11.54 | Katty | they diercted me to my reseller, claiming they would have it. |
14:12.06 | Katty | so now i'm on the phone with dell (the reseller) |
14:12.28 | Katty | i think i talked to tech support first |
14:12.32 | Katty | they transfered me to sales |
14:12.37 | Katty | tey transfered me to software |
14:12.43 | Katty | i don't know from there. |
14:13.18 | mishehu | you're in dell hell |
14:13.31 | Katty | yes, i know |
14:13.31 | h3x | i hate dell shit |
14:13.36 | h3x | they dont even manufacture anything anymore |
14:13.36 | Hmmhesays | one time I told dell they are extending my warranty for free, they did. |
14:13.36 | Katty | unfortunately, i've had to call in before >:( |
14:14.07 | Hmmhesays | then before that extended warranty was up I told them they are sending me a shiny new laptop |
14:14.10 | Nugget | clearly the only rational solution is to buy a mac. |
14:14.10 | Hmmhesays | they did |
14:14.11 | Katty | now that i think about it, i think i've called in to get it before |
14:14.16 | spackle | I don't hate Dell, I just don't buy it. |
14:14.16 | Katty | to get my upgrade. |
14:14.18 | DrukenWrk | Ganlron: sounds good... convince him to pay for it all, and i'll set it all up :) |
14:14.19 | lathos42 | Katty: Want to try calling my companies Dell Software guy? He's one of those people that will go find out the answer and not transfer you all over the place |
14:14.45 | h3x | a dell support contract costs more than the computer for the first year |
14:14.52 | h3x | you may as well just buy two generic computers and have a backup |
14:14.55 | h3x | thats the way i look at it |
14:14.58 | Katty | lathos42: no |
14:14.59 | mishehu | heh |
14:15.02 | Katty | lathos42: i want to rant. |
14:15.02 | Katty | lathos42: saavy? |
14:15.06 | Hmmhesays | business support is better than home support |
14:15.18 | file[lap1op] | much better |
14:15.37 | h3x | i would hope so! |
14:15.43 | mishehu | Katty: are you using the <bitch> tag or the <moan> tag? or is it a combination tag of <bitch+moan> ? ;-) |
14:15.46 | lathos42 | Katty: I realize that, but I figured i'd give you the option. He's always been really helpful when I've called him about similar types of software issues |
14:15.52 | Hmmhesays | you actually get to talk to someone in north america for biz support |
14:16.04 | mishehu | Hmmhesays: what a privilige! |
14:16.15 | Katty | mishehu: it's more like whine, bitch, moan, grumble, i-will-have-your-head-if-this-is-not-taken-care-of |
14:16.25 | Hmmhesays | damn right, its like the thrill I get by talking to myself with app echo |
14:16.27 | Katty | lathos42: i don't want help. |
14:16.29 | h3x | if you dont buy a dell then your computer dosent break |
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14:16.29 | h3x | heh |
14:16.35 | mishehu | bkw_: not so loud, it's still morning |
14:16.35 | Katty | lathos42: i am on the phone with dell. that's all the help i can stand. |
14:16.44 | Katty | lathos42: you must not understand female psychology. |
14:17.19 | bkw_ | wtf is a waggle? |
14:17.23 | mishehu | Katty: there is female psychology? I thought it was just all sorts of random things called "emotions" and "feelings"... makes little sense to us tech guys! *grin* |
14:17.36 | Hmmhesays | if any male were to understand the female psych. his brain would asplode |
14:17.37 | mishehu | bkw_: shaking his ass? |
14:17.46 | bkw_ | Hmmhesays, no he would be gay |
14:17.50 | file[lap1op] | bkw_: I say we should just get a P2P |
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14:17.58 | bkw_ | file i'm tempted to do that |
14:17.58 | file[lap1op] | and not have to put up with this bs anymore |
14:18.04 | Katty | mishehu: exactly. |
14:18.26 | mishehu | Hmmhesays: it's like D. Adams said about the universe... if anybody were to ever understand what it was there for and why, it would suddenly disappear and be replaced with something even more inexplicible. |
14:18.58 | Hmmhesays | and then the clones head would asplode |
14:19.17 | mishehu | you seem to like this "assploding" |
14:19.35 | mishehu | after waggling at bkw... |
14:19.53 | Hmmhesays | i didn't say what I waggled at bkw_ you sicko |
14:19.57 | file[lap1op] | shag carpet for all! |
14:20.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | uhhhh |
14:20.56 | Hmmhesays | "That girl is going to have my babies.... as soon as I get a van with no windows!" |
14:21.13 | mishehu | a van with no windows? |
14:21.23 | file[lap1op] | yay hot-n-sexy Hmmhesays, how are you? |
14:21.31 | mishehu | ...because I live in a van by the river! |
14:21.52 | Hmmhesays | file[lap1op], i got 3 hours of sleepy, i'm a bit loopy |
14:21.57 | file[lap1op] | Hmmhesays: only a bit? |
14:22.08 | Hmmhesays | well a bit more than usual |
14:22.24 | file[lap1op] | well that's sad |
14:22.38 | _hannes | oh menno |
14:22.42 | _hannes | oops |
14:22.46 | _hannes | wrong channel, sry |
14:22.49 | Hmmhesays | I was listening to some canadians in my cd player last night |
14:23.09 | mishehu | how aboot you reboot eh? |
14:23.23 | mishehu | this is canadian music eh? |
14:23.46 | Hmmhesays | that wild and crazy nickelback, with the fire on stage |
14:23.59 | mishehu | Katty: so whats the play-by-play thus far? |
14:24.18 | mishehu | hahahaah this is rich... Creative Zens shipping with a worm in them. |
14:24.23 | Katty | so the paper says go to eopen.microsoft.com |
14:24.31 | mishehu | you know something like that was bound to happen sooner or later. |
14:24.34 | Katty | which in turn says contact your reseller to add your agreement |
14:24.36 | Katty | and you CANM |
14:24.43 | Katty | T even renew your assurance there |
14:24.43 | Hmmhesays | whenever I go to type out "dictionary" fast I end up with "dicationary" |
14:24.54 | Katty | this paper is the MOST misleading thing i have EVER read |
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14:27.32 | Hmmhesays | ms has a good gaming platform |
14:27.59 | Katty | Hmmhesays: let's fight |
14:28.13 | Hmmhesays | bring it |
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14:28.29 | Hmmhesays | I say we play bouncy level |
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14:28.53 | Hmmhesays | god I love quake3 |
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14:29.19 | BuckRogers | good morning all |
14:30.28 | BuckRogers | slow day in the asterisk room huh? |
14:30.41 | Hmmhesays | when did motley crue become classic rock? |
14:30.48 | clyrrad | good morning :) |
14:30.52 | BuckRogers | in 1993 |
14:31.05 | BuckRogers | after Rap got big |
14:31.08 | Hmmhesays | when tommy lee stopped smashing bottle caps of coke into his nose |
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14:31.29 | mishehu | *aaaachooooo* |
14:31.36 | BuckRogers | bless ya |
14:32.30 | BuckRogers | has anyone here used ISphone as a wholesaler here? |
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14:34.03 | clyrrad | Having a problem with sound quality when more than one call are going at the same time. Sounds like your cell phone when its out of range. Does this sound like a problem with the Phones? A problem with Asterisk or a Problem with the Provider? |
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14:34.43 | BuckRogers | sounds like a bandwidth issue |
14:34.51 | BuckRogers | or latency maybe |
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14:35.05 | clyrrad | Hrm.... |
14:35.08 | int3_ | hey |
14:35.21 | int3_ | i got my ISA RockWell chipset modem working as an FXO. |
14:35.22 | clyrrad | How can I fix that? I should have enough bandwidth |
14:35.58 | BuckRogers | jitter maybe |
14:36.12 | bkw_ | clyrrad, using IAX? |
14:36.20 | clyrrad | Yes IAX |
14:36.24 | bkw_ | which provider? |
14:36.31 | clyrrad | NuFone |
14:36.38 | clyrrad | and Link2Voip |
14:36.39 | BuckRogers | jer jer you here? |
14:36.41 | clyrrad | it happens with both |
14:36.42 | bkw_ | its IAX |
14:36.47 | bkw_ | we have the same issues with IAX2 |
14:36.50 | bkw_ | we're asterlink |
14:36.54 | clyrrad | REally...... |
14:36.56 | bkw_ | chance are its not NuFone's fault |
14:36.58 | clyrrad | Whats the work around? |
14:37.00 | bkw_ | yes really |
14:37.03 | bkw_ | use SIP |
14:37.12 | bkw_ | you hear audio clipping |
14:37.14 | bkw_ | and drop outs |
14:37.18 | bkw_ | on the PSTN side right? |
14:37.18 | clyrrad | yes... exactly |
14:37.24 | bkw_ | audio into you is fine? |
14:37.25 | clyrrad | yes |
14:37.27 | clyrrad | you got it |
14:37.30 | bkw_ | yep its IAX2 |
14:37.35 | clyrrad | DAMN |
14:37.37 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
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14:37.44 | bkw_ | thats my test to show you |
14:37.46 | clyrrad | does NuFone use SiP? |
14:37.48 | clyrrad | ok |
14:37.50 | clyrrad | calling |
14:38.19 | clyrrad | ouch LOL |
14:38.25 | bkw_ | its loud |
14:38.27 | bkw_ | its Milliwatt |
14:38.31 | clyrrad | really loud |
14:38.36 | bkw_ | but listen to it for a few |
14:38.46 | clyrrad | breaks up a bit |
14:38.48 | clyrrad | every now and then |
14:38.53 | clyrrad | but not constant |
14:39.11 | Ariel_ | bkw_, is this a bug that needs to be worked on with for iax2 |
14:39.15 | clyrrad | like it drops |
14:39.20 | bkw_ | Ariel_, yes |
14:39.22 | clyrrad | ok i'll try the next one |
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14:39.32 | Ariel_ | sometimes iax2 is the only way to get calls via some nat firewalls |
14:39.54 | bkw_ | IAX2 scales to about 10-15 calls before it starts to sound like ass |
14:40.02 | clyrrad | does NuFone support SIP instead of IAX2? |
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14:40.12 | bkw_ | clyrrad, I think he does |
14:40.14 | clyrrad | or in my case 2 calls and sounds like ass |
14:40.16 | BuckRogers | yeah they do |
14:40.22 | Hogie | clyrrad: they support both, but you have to tell them which you want |
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14:40.32 | clyrrad | the second number sounds better |
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14:40.34 | eipi | hi ppl |
14:40.34 | bkw_ | we support both out of the box by default |
14:40.35 | clyrrad | does not cut out as much |
14:40.55 | clyrrad | bkw_ is the second number using SIP? |
14:40.55 | bkw_ | clyrrad, exactly.. those cut outs the human ear can not hear it when its just voice |
14:41.00 | bkw_ | clyrrad, correct |
14:41.03 | bkw_ | the second number is SIP |
14:41.16 | clyrrad | are you using NuFone? |
14:41.21 | bkw_ | no i'm Asterlink |
14:41.24 | eipi | q: why voicemail is not using serveremail to send emails? (mails are rejected because FROM is root@<server>) |
14:41.27 | bkw_ | thats going thru our system to my box here |
14:41.36 | file[lap1op] | I'm Asterlink! impostor! |
14:41.44 | bkw_ | ok ok file is asterlink too |
14:41.45 | BuckRogers | yeah me too |
14:41.47 | bkw_ | haha |
14:41.47 | Hogie | bkw, what all does Asterlink do? Your website uses big words, and it confuses me |
14:41.50 | clyrrad | Well that certainly clears that up.... I was wondering what the hell was going on |
14:42.00 | bkw_ | Hogie, I didn't have anything to do with that site design |
14:42.01 | bkw_ | I hate it |
14:42.07 | bkw_ | I think we'll redo it soon |
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14:42.18 | mishehu | it is an antidisestablishment portal to the telecommunications environment |
14:42.20 | bkw_ | Hogie, go to #asterlink |
14:42.33 | Hmmhesays | please keep most of the words single syllabul |
14:42.39 | Hmmhesays | *sylabul? |
14:42.40 | lathos42 | bkw_: I'll redesign it for you.. I'm rather fond of No graphics, white text on a black background.. you'll be the bestest site ever! |
14:42.51 | Hmmhesays | lynx friendly! |
14:43.09 | Corydon76-home | syllable |
14:43.15 | bkw_ | lathos42, hehe I love simple sites |
14:43.16 | Hmmhesays | "me do voip rearl good" ./end_engrish |
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14:44.12 | mishehu | reary good |
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14:44.28 | bkw_ | reary? |
14:44.34 | bkw_ | MY EYES MY EYES |
14:44.36 | BuckRogers | has anyone here worked with "isphone" |
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14:44.55 | bkw_ | can't say that I have |
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14:45.05 | Hmmhesays | I remember one site I had way back when. it loaded a flash copy of "when I think about you I touch myself" |
14:45.56 | BuckRogers | bkw_, has the 911 deadline affected you guys at all? |
14:46.37 | Hmmhesays | you ever see that website where they did movie scenes all in ascii? |
14:46.40 | bkw_ | BuckRogers, no we don't provide services that would qualify for 911 services |
14:46.48 | bkw_ | tollfree number providers don't have to provide 911 |
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14:46.59 | lathos42 | Hmmhesays: Yeah, i've seen that I think |
14:47.05 | BuckRogers | ahh all you offer is toll free? |
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14:47.16 | bkw_ | we are also not sold as a land line replacement service |
14:48.15 | BuckRogers | bkw_ could you elaberate |
14:48.31 | bkw_ | we are not ment to replace your land line services |
14:48.40 | bkw_ | we don't come in as a vonage type service |
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14:48.59 | BuckRogers | so if you use your service you must have a pstn traditional line? |
14:49.11 | BuckRogers | or you just supply out going |
14:49.13 | bjohnson | only if you want 911 |
14:49.25 | bjohnson | a cell phone would also work for 911 |
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14:49.45 | eipi | q: why voicemail is not using serveremail to send emails? (mails are rejected because FROM is root@<server>) |
14:49.45 | BuckRogers | yeah or just asking your customer if they need 911 |
14:50.22 | BuckRogers | but once agian the fcc has taking the freedom of choice away from the consumer |
14:50.23 | bjohnson | a pstn line is always handy for local calling anyway |
14:51.19 | Hmmhesays | I just have a very confusing exchange with a female |
14:51.28 | Katty | that's normal. |
14:51.37 | Hmmhesays | yes, the booze doesn't help |
14:51.52 | Katty | eww. |
14:51.59 | Hmmhesays | well, trying to remember wtf she was talking about |
14:52.14 | lathos42 | Well, wish me luck everyone.. I'm about to go do the final pitch for our new phone system to the company president |
14:52.22 | Katty | lathos42: good luck (= |
14:52.29 | Hmmhesays | cause... well this may be a shocker, but I may have been a little bit intoxicated |
14:52.34 | Hmmhesays | good luck lathos42 |
14:53.15 | mishehu | lathos42: remember, don't use big words... those scare the big whigs ;-) |
14:53.29 | Hmmhesays | you need to use buzz words |
14:53.39 | mishehu | they only understand really short ones like TCO, ROI, etc etc. |
14:53.42 | Hmmhesays | lots of them strung in a row |
14:53.51 | bjohnson | ABC |
14:53.59 | bjohnson | FYI |
14:54.02 | mishehu | bjohnson: already been chewed? |
14:54.10 | Hmmhesays | if your bullshit alarm is not screaming in your ear while you're pitching something like that, you're doing it wrong |
14:54.17 | mishehu | nah, they don't like FYI, it sounds like you're telling htem they're stupid |
14:54.40 | Hmmhesays | specially when you make the L with your thumb and pointer finger on your forehead while saying it |
14:54.50 | bjohnson | CYA |
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14:55.23 | lathos42 | mishehu: so you dont think I should go in there and say "ohmygodicancustomizethedialplancallyourcellphoneemailyourvoicemailcalloutthroughthepstnorvoipusingsipiaxandzaptel" ? :) |
14:56.17 | mishehu | lathos42: that is correct... you have to squeeze in at least one breath there, you'll cause his head to explode otherwise |
14:56.54 | mishehu | Katty: but ask yourself... is your company worth the killed braincells? |
14:57.02 | lathos42 | mishehu: Oh, I have to breathe? THATs what my problem has been |
14:57.05 | Katty | mishehu: no |
14:57.11 | Katty | mishehu: hence, the helmet |
14:57.29 | mishehu | Katty: you'll still lose at least one braincell even with the helmet |
14:57.42 | Hmmhesays | lathos42 you could always take the apocalypse approach "if you don't switch, fire will rain from above!" |
14:57.42 | mishehu | lathos42: you never knew why you were so blue? |
14:57.53 | Katty | sad |
14:58.36 | mishehu | hmm... I have to think... what would be a good ringtone for this polycom phone... |
14:58.39 | Hmmhesays | whoa, I got some serious clipping on the milliwatt test |
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14:59.03 | Hmmhesays | someone call me on fwd and listen to this |
14:59.13 | brad_mssw | does asterisk broadcast the local time for SIP devices ? |
14:59.30 | brad_mssw | i have a sip device that I keep setting the time on, and it keeps resetting it an hour different |
14:59.34 | puzzled | brad_mssw: usually the phones get it from an ntp server |
14:59.41 | Hmmhesays | oh wait, milliwatt doesn't sound right with g729 does it |
15:00.11 | brad_mssw | hmm ...wonder what this phone could be using |
15:00.28 | brad_mssw | for ntp or whatnot then |
15:01.12 | puzzled | brad_mssw: an hour off usually means something is not set right like daylight savings |
15:01.37 | brad_mssw | puzzled: yeah, looked at the timezone settings |
15:01.41 | brad_mssw | appears to be proper :/ |
15:02.09 | lathos42 | mishehu: I always thought I was blue because I watched the Smurfs as a Kid |
15:02.18 | puzzled | hehe |
15:02.38 | mishehu | lathos42: well, then why wouldn't you end up looking like gargamel instead? |
15:02.53 | clyrrad | Anyone know how to have your NuFone account connect with SIP instead of IAX2? |
15:02.56 | Hmmhesays | smurfette was kind of cute |
15:03.01 | lathos42 | mishehu: Because he never won in the end, and I'm a WINNER! |
15:03.18 | mishehu | lathos42: there was an end to it? |
15:03.40 | mishehu | I thought it was like that lambchop song |
15:03.42 | tzanger | clyrrad: contact nufone :-) |
15:03.59 | clyrrad | LOL I have tried.... their PBX hangs up on you |
15:04.14 | mishehu | clyrrad: you must have pissed somebody off. |
15:04.14 | clyrrad | Thank-you for calling NuFone.... Good Bye :/ |
15:04.35 | clyrrad | not sure how I have never needed to contact them before |
15:04.50 | lathos42 | mishehu: Well, he always got his plans thwarted by the end of the episode |
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15:05.42 | clyrrad | Is anyone here using NuFone with SIP? |
15:05.54 | lathos42 | And if you enter the secret code, then it rings my phone |
15:07.04 | mishehu | lathos42: why not the monkeys throwing poo around sound clip? |
15:07.19 | lathos42 | mishehu: That'll be if they enter the wrong code |
15:07.19 | Hmmhesays | next time customer is really annoying I think i'll transfer them to the fbi or something |
15:07.58 | bjohnson | I would be surprised if a IVR DIDN'T say "We are experienced a higher call volume than expected/normal/paid for" |
15:09.36 | tzanger | bjohnson: agreed |
15:09.50 | lathos42 | "Please hold for the next available <monkey poo sound>" |
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15:12.31 | Hmmhesays | anyone know why they have so many waits macros? |
15:12.34 | lathos42 | I want to start a phone company so I can make my slogan "X Company, we put the Ass in Asterisk" |
15:12.44 | Corydon76-home | Hmmm, with no comments, I wonder I've sufficiently documented 5055 |
15:15.32 | Hmmhesays | that is very odd, their dial macro has like 6 seconds of wait built in |
15:15.52 | Hmmhesays | not "answer then wait" either, wait before using goto |
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15:16.18 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, does the system keep ringing when it's waiting? |
15:16.29 | file[lap1op] | tries, haha |
15:16.36 | file[lap1op] | I have nooooo food... er wait I could cook |
15:16.45 | bkw_ | cook? |
15:16.52 | file[lap1op] | I know it's a crazy concept |
15:16.53 | bkw_ | thats not something little boys know how to do |
15:17.01 | file[lap1op] | yeah I don't know how to cook |
15:17.03 | file[lap1op] | that's the problem |
15:17.09 | bkw_ | cooking, cleaning.. these are things mothers do |
15:17.17 | Hmmhesays | Ariel_ no the ringing doesn't start till dial |
15:17.29 | file[lap1op] | I could order food, and then head out grocery shopping tonight I suppose |
15:17.35 | file[lap1op] | lemme see what's here first though |
15:17.43 | Hmmhesays | have you ever looked at the from-pstn-reghours macro? |
15:17.57 | Ariel_ | file[lap1op], tuna fish is easy to make |
15:18.07 | Hmmhesays | er... not macro, context |
15:18.10 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, yes I have |
15:18.33 | Ariel_ | you can cut that down on the wait but they do it for fax detection |
15:18.35 | Hmmhesays | s,3 s,7 s,10 s,13 are all wait() |
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15:19.12 | file[lap1op] | I could make kraft dinner |
15:19.33 | Ariel_ | file[lap1op], take caned tuna, mayo and mix it up add some spices and a few other vegies and you have a great start. |
15:19.39 | Ariel_ | file[lap1op], no cooking needed. |
15:19.42 | file[lap1op] | I don't like seafood |
15:19.44 | file[lap1op] | like tuna |
15:19.45 | Hmmhesays | Ariel_ that makes sense, I see the nofax context only has 2 seconds of wait |
15:19.45 | file[lap1op] | :P |
15:20.03 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, I edit most of mine any way |
15:20.19 | vlrk | has any body tried the mrtg with asterisk ? |
15:20.21 | Hmmhesays | one thing I will say about the aah guys... they have built one helluva dialplan |
15:20.33 | vlrk | iam getting error while authentication |
15:20.44 | Ariel_ | what is mrtg |
15:20.59 | file[lap1op] | okay folks |
15:21.03 | file[lap1op] | I'm going to try to make kraft dinner |
15:21.08 | vlrk | multi router traffic grapher |
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15:21.17 | wasim | many ruminants tolerate gophers |
15:21.18 | file[lap1op] | if atlantic canada burns down, it was my fault |
15:21.19 | puzzled | Ariel_: nice snmp info grapher |
15:21.31 | vlrk | yes puzzled you are right |
15:21.43 | vlrk | iam using the asterisk-1.0.9 |
15:21.52 | vlrk | and in manager.conf iam giveing one account |
15:21.59 | vlrk | and enabled it |
15:22.08 | vlrk | with port no 5038 |
15:22.22 | file[lap1op] | frell |
15:22.32 | vlrk | while running the shell script file giveing this detail but its giveng error |
15:22.38 | vlrk | as Missing Channels |
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15:25.14 | file[lap1op] | now I'm annoyed |
15:26.10 | vlrk | kram: any adivces related to asterisk + mrtg |
15:26.36 | bkw_ | http://www.therupauldoll.com/ |
15:26.56 | vlrk | bkw_ is it directed to me |
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15:27.15 | bkw_ | no dear |
15:27.23 | vlrk | thx |
15:27.53 | vlrk | i was desparetly waiting for responses in that process what ever people are typeing i think it s for me |
15:28.12 | bkw_ | asterisk+mrtg thats a funny concept |
15:28.14 | bkw_ | use cacti |
15:28.21 | bkw_ | I count channel usage with it |
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15:29.02 | vlrk | bkw_ is it like tool based one ? |
15:29.47 | bkw_ | asterisk needs to stop walking the live memory structures |
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15:30.37 | tzanger | bkw_: but that's the most fun |
15:30.49 | bkw_ | ya and that tab completion is a killer too |
15:30.57 | bkw_ | tag a segfault if the conditions are right :P |
15:31.03 | bkw_ | er tab |
15:31.08 | bkw_ | I have tab'ed a deadlock before |
15:31.09 | file[lap1op] | tag 112604! |
15:31.19 | bkw_ | like anyone knows what that means mr. file |
15:31.20 | bkw_ | haha |
15:31.25 | file[lap1op] | oh no, generation failure! |
15:31.35 | bkw_ | haha |
15:31.58 | jero | anyone using asterisk zeroconf ? |
15:32.04 | jero | bkw ? |
15:32.06 | bkw_ | no |
15:32.23 | jero | Im unable to get mdnsd responding the requests |
15:33.16 | gtigene | What is astman? |
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15:35.58 | marrandy | Hi...I just did a new install by way of the CVS repository http://www.asterisk.org/download and on booting had no zaptel modules, there is also no /dev/zap folder - why ??? |
15:36.25 | DrukenWrk | marrandy: do you have any hardware? |
15:36.28 | Katty | marrandy: did you modprobe? |
15:37.08 | Katty | marrandy: and insmod? |
15:37.14 | Katty | marrandy: or ztcfg? |
15:39.19 | mutilator | are there any sounds in asterisk-sounds that say 'long distance'? |
15:39.36 | gtigene | What is astman? |
15:40.13 | marrandy | I have a digium XP100 and TDM400 - modeprobe, ztcfg won't work with no /dev/zap |
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15:40.57 | marrandy | Why wasn't the /dev/zap entries added during the build ? |
15:40.59 | azrishahril | anyone know how to configure wct4xxp with clarent E1 ? |
15:41.02 | gtigene | never mind |
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15:41.30 | dtwilson | hey - anybody here any god with unixodbc? trying to get cdr_mysql going |
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15:42.16 | dtwilson | cdr connects fine to the odbc driver - but my issue is that unixodbc seems to be unable to read the user credentials for the datasource from odbc.ini |
15:42.53 | dtwilson | and instead is simply attempting to pass the current shell user without password to my remote MySQL machien |
15:42.56 | dtwilson | any ideas? |
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15:43.52 | Morakai | Hello everyone, I'm new to the channel =) |
15:44.35 | file[lap1op] | I never would have guessed |
15:45.10 | gtigene | azrishajril: Do you want the zaptel.conf settings? |
15:45.26 | bkw_ | 大家晚安~ <-- Everyone good night ~ |
15:45.31 | marrandy | I'm going to go for current instead - cvs checkout -r v1-0 zaptel libpri asterisk asterisk-addons asterisk-sounds |
15:45.33 | gtigene | Wpw |
15:45.41 | gtigene | er. Wow |
15:46.17 | Morakai | hehe, I'll keep quiet, I know your all probably experience asterisk dev's |
15:46.32 | Morakai | I'm just starting to learn about it for my job |
15:46.45 | gtigene | Morakai: ask your questionn |
15:46.49 | coppice | bkw_: correct. your chinese much be improving. something to do with working in canton? :-) |
15:46.50 | Delvar | actuly most of us are just here for the beer |
15:46.56 | Hmmhesays | bkw_ you get that fanta capture yet? I want to make it the ringtone on my phone |
15:47.01 | bkw_ | NO |
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15:47.11 | pawalls | Hmm.. handle_response in chan_sip.c does some weird things.... |
15:47.15 | bkw_ | coppice, hehe |
15:47.18 | Hmmhesays | hope to it |
15:47.19 | bkw_ | so unamerican of me right? |
15:47.20 | Hmmhesays | *hop even |
15:47.25 | bkw_ | Hmmhesays, no |
15:47.28 | bkw_ | fanta boi |
15:47.47 | coppice | bkw_: OK. Now how to you say that? |
15:47.51 | bkw_ | the translation of Moose penis in chinese is elk penis |
15:48.02 | Hmmhesays | you would know that wouldn't you |
15:48.25 | bkw_ | 是 |
15:48.39 | bkw_ | i'm shocked anyone can see that |
15:48.44 | Morakai | Well, I've installed Asterisk, AMP, etc everything seems to be running good...I'm just having trouble finding documentation on how to make... |
15:48.53 | Morakai | a extension go to a phone |
15:48.55 | pauldy | I can see it |
15:49.04 | pauldy | whats it mean running man with stiffining wood |
15:49.04 | Morakai | via sipura(sp) box |
15:49.05 | file[lap1op] | bkw_: I see it as well :P |
15:49.05 | Hmmhesays | i can't |
15:49.13 | coppice | bkw_: you're looking this up on zhongwen.com aren't you? |
15:49.16 | bkw_ | file you and I have a real OS |
15:49.32 | bkw_ | coppice, no actually I seen it in Blazint's quit message |
15:49.39 | bkw_ | put it into the translator on my dashboard |
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15:49.47 | bkw_ | My boss is chinese |
15:50.00 | file[lap1op] | you should talk chinese to him some time |
15:50.03 | file[lap1op] | watch him freak out or something |
15:50.07 | bkw_ | talk? |
15:50.13 | pauldy | type |
15:50.13 | file[lap1op] | over AIM twat :P |
15:50.13 | bkw_ | I msged him chinese before |
15:50.15 | bkw_ | he freaked out |
15:50.19 | file[lap1op] | haha |
15:50.43 | supaigtr | Anybody know if this "chan_sip.c:1311 __sip_ack: Stopping retransmission on" is the cause of lost voice during a conversation? |
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15:51.36 | file[lap1op] | bkw_: would you like to bet on whether Holly manages to perfectly time the arrival of my pay again this month? |
15:51.47 | bkw_ | file she will |
15:51.49 | bkw_ | she always does |
15:51.57 | bkw_ | she might even be early |
15:52.10 | file[lap1op] | that's crazy talk! |
15:52.16 | bkw_ | I need a few days off soon |
15:52.23 | bkw_ | or i'm gonna go nutz and start killing people |
15:52.24 | file[lap1op] | oh god |
15:52.54 | file[lap1op] | you can kill Teddy if you want |
15:53.07 | file[lap1op] | he's being silly |
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15:53.14 | bkw_ | :P |
15:53.18 | bkw_ | na teddy is fine |
15:53.33 | file[lap1op] | apparently for the daily balance event, he doesn't have a special token for balance... |
15:53.41 | bkw_ | he is doing that righ tnow |
15:53.41 | file[lap1op] | which kind of defeats the purpose of a daily balance event |
15:53.50 | bkw_ | him and I had a chat bout it |
15:54.05 | file[lap1op] | why was he worried about the db? |
15:55.11 | generalhan | can anyone help me out with my tftp server for my cisco 7960 ? |
15:55.19 | doolph | where can I do free calls to toll free numbers, I know fwd, but does exists another one? |
15:55.30 | Ariel_ | doolph, sipphone |
15:55.35 | file[lap1op] | doolph: someone on ENUM has a route published |
15:55.42 | file[lap1op] | it works most of the time |
15:55.52 | gtigene | Morakai: exten => 100,1,Dial(Zap/5) for example |
15:55.55 | file[lap1op] | goes out a Cisco 5300... in Michigan... |
15:56.00 | doolph | file[lap1op] how do I signup to enum |
15:56.12 | file[lap1op] | doolph: go on voip-info.org and read about what it is |
15:56.21 | gtigene | Morakai: exten \=> 100,1,Dial(Zap/5) for example |
15:56.42 | Hmmhesays | now how am I going to parse this horrible config file in perl |
15:57.09 | Ariel_ | hummm something new exten \=> |
15:57.13 | Hmmhesays | its colon delimited |
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15:57.49 | Ariel_ | colon delimited? |
15:58.14 | Hmmhesays | Ariel_ its a mediatrix getwalk |
15:58.17 | Hmmhesays | from an 1124 |
15:58.55 | Hmmhesays | I need to turn it into an xml config file |
15:59.01 | Ariel_ | ahh |
15:59.10 | darkskiez | Hmmhesays: take the * parsing code, and write using it as a reference |
15:59.26 | Hmmhesays | i'm not even going to attempt it in C |
15:59.38 | darkskiez | "as a reference" |
16:00.15 | Hmmhesays | hey bkw_ what do you think about config file parsing in asterisk? |
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16:00.28 | bkw_ | Hmmhesays, it would be a wonderful idea! |
16:00.34 | Hmmhesays | lol |
16:00.37 | file[lap1op] | The current time is 1PM. |
16:00.58 | bkw_ | Hmmhesays, it ranks up there with world peace! |
16:01.29 | Hmmhesays | and flying cars. |
16:01.39 | bkw_ | you got it |
16:01.45 | Ariel_ | file[lap1op], your an hour ahead |
16:01.45 | bkw_ | now where are those flying cars we were promised? |
16:01.58 | Hmmhesays | www.skycar.com ? |
16:01.58 | file[lap1op] | Ariel_: darn tootin' right |
16:01.59 | Trionnis | is anyone here familiar with a way to get a decent semi-natural sounding voice with Festival? |
16:02.01 | Ariel_ | in your dreams |
16:02.51 | coppice | Trionnis: well, most of the good sounding TTS packages are based on festival |
16:03.06 | darkskiez | Trionnis: tried mbrola ? it might be worse, but there are others |
16:03.09 | coppice | of course, it took a lot to get them where they are |
16:03.13 | Trionnis | hm |
16:03.19 | Trionnis | I'll check it out |
16:03.28 | Trionnis | the default just seems really choppy |
16:03.31 | Trionnis | :-/ |
16:03.42 | pauldy | choppy? what kind of system are you running it on |
16:03.47 | Trionnis | well |
16:03.52 | Trionnis | not literally choppy |
16:03.58 | Trionnis | halting and whatnot |
16:04.04 | pauldy | just real synthetic sounding |
16:04.08 | Trionnis | right |
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16:05.03 | pauldy | yea the cepestral stuff is expesive |
16:05.12 | Trionnis | I checked that out |
16:05.20 | Trionnis | it still sounds pretty, meh |
16:05.24 | pauldy | they do sound good though |
16:05.37 | Trionnis | yeah |
16:06.06 | Trionnis | better than the default :) |
16:06.08 | coppice | cepstral expensive? :-\ that's news. most TTS packages are $500-1000 per port |
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16:06.25 | Trionnis | hm |
16:06.27 | Trionnis | that's not too bad |
16:06.38 | Trionnis | hmmmmm |
16:06.44 | Trionnis | I'll consider it :) |
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16:07.31 | DrukenWrk | uhg... all this doing nothing has sure made me hungry |
16:07.32 | darkskiez | what do BT use ? |
16:07.44 | darkskiez | they do SMS TTS for text messages to land lines |
16:08.22 | puzzled | pauldy: isn't cepstral about $30? |
16:08.34 | bkw_ | not for telephony apps |
16:08.44 | pauldy | coppice, from what I've read to get it working you are looking at about 500-1000 |
16:09.05 | gtigene | Is this right? "cvs checkout -r HEAD asterisk" |
16:09.09 | bkw_ | you need an Audio Distribution License |
16:09.17 | bkw_ | and Concurrency License |
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16:09.28 | Ariel_ | cvs checkout asterisk |
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16:10.04 | gtigene | Ariel: "cvs checkout asterisk" gets cvs head? |
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16:12.17 | Trionnis | how about festvox |
16:12.22 | Trionnis | is that a decent one? |
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16:12.42 | coppice | that is not TTS. its a voice building kit |
16:12.50 | Trionnis | er |
16:12.56 | Trionnis | not sure I follow |
16:13.05 | Trionnis | sorry, a bit noobish with TTS stuff |
16:13.14 | coppice | its a toolkit to help build voices for festival |
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16:13.20 | gtigene | What do you get with "cvs checkout asterisk libpri zaptel" please |
16:13.26 | coppice | or many other TTS systems |
16:13.30 | Trionnis | ah |
16:13.31 | Trionnis | ok |
16:13.54 | serg_b | who can help me to debug dsp.c to see how busy tone detected on fxo? |
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16:14.45 | gordonjcp | serg_b: have you read through dsp.c? |
16:14.53 | serg_b | yes |
16:15.04 | gordonjcp | what do the comments say |
16:15.28 | coppice | "this tone detector is bloody hopeless"? |
16:15.42 | Hmmhesays | ok this getwalk is bassackwards |
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16:16.15 | serg_b | gordonjcp: there is a lot of comments. which one ? |
16:16.21 | nicodejo | hi i'm nick from |
16:16.23 | nicodejo | france |
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16:16.42 | bkw_ | hi i'm brian from Oklahoma |
16:16.57 | bkw_ | ;) |
16:17.03 | file[lap1op] | hi... I'm Josh, from New Brunswick eh? |
16:17.11 | bkw_ | omg he said eh? |
16:17.16 | file[lap1op] | OMG! |
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16:17.50 | gordonjcp | serg_b: there should be stuff to give you an idea what's going on in there |
16:18.01 | pauldy | whats the difference between diphones and alaphones |
16:18.22 | file[lap1op] | yes... |
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16:18.32 | serg_b | gordonjcp: how to debug ast_dsp_busydetect ? |
16:19.34 | serg_b | gordonjcp: i added line at the end that logs avgtone & avgsilence. results a littlre strange |
16:19.56 | serg_b | gordonjcp: avgtone from 300 to 1500, avgsilence from 10 to 40 |
16:20.04 | gordonjcp | odd |
16:20.08 | Trionnis | ok, is anyone here capable to use festvox to build me a voice for a festival application? |
16:20.13 | Trionnis | paid, of course |
16:20.29 | Hmmhesays | is there a command in perl to search for the first occurence and return everything to the right? |
16:20.30 | gordonjcp | I've never tried building a voice with festvox |
16:20.35 | gordonjcp | how difficult is it? |
16:20.38 | Hmmhesays | er function |
16:20.39 | Trionnis | heh |
16:20.40 | puzzled | asterisk-sounds sounds-extra.txt from head seems to be missing .gsm in the last few entries. anyone want a patch to fix it in cvs? |
16:20.47 | serg_b | gordonjcp: any ideas why this happens? |
16:20.49 | gtigene | Does anyone know the wiki page that tells you how to get cvs head? |
16:20.53 | Trionnis | well, it's making my head spin |
16:21.08 | Trionnis | gtigene: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Download |
16:21.09 | nicodejo | i'm a student and i want to build an asterisk server for a student project, so i need help just about one thing : do you now which pci card i need to buy for connect my server to the french isdn network |
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16:21.59 | coppice | a wiki that tells you how to get head? interesting :-) |
16:22.04 | gtigene | nicodejo: You mean, like E1 PRI? |
16:22.11 | Trionnis | lol |
16:22.14 | clyrrad | hahahah I would like to see that wiki :P |
16:22.16 | Trionnis | good play :) |
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16:23.10 | pauldy | he said get head |
16:23.12 | Ariel_ | nicodejo, there are some isdn cards and capi type cards that you can use. |
16:23.14 | nicodejo | gtigene : i don't know in france the plug name is T0 |
16:23.16 | puzzled | nicodejo: search voip-info.org. for BRI you can get a cheap hfc-s based isdn card, an AVM Fritz! card or an expensive active isdn card like the Eicon Diva Server & AVM C4 or the cards from Sirrix or Junghanns |
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16:23.29 | r0m | videolan |
16:23.42 | gordonjcp | serg_b: not really, no |
16:24.02 | nicodejo | gene> nicodejo: You mean, like E1 PRI? |
16:24.02 | nicodejo | <Trionnis> lol |
16:24.02 | nicodejo | <clyrrad> hahahah I would like to see that wiki :P |
16:24.03 | nicodejo | <Trio |
16:24.19 | nicodejo | sorry bad cmd |
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16:25.58 | Trionnis | anyone? bueller? bueller? |
16:25.58 | nicodejo | puzzled : i any cards on asterisk site but only T1 connetion and in france is T0 |
16:26.00 | Trionnis | :) |
16:26.23 | puzzled | nicodejo: T0? neber heard of it. do you mean E1? |
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16:27.03 | nicodejo | puzzled not E1 but maybe i don't no what is realy E1 |
16:27.38 | nicodejo | puzzled is it an isdn connection ? |
16:27.48 | pauldy | e1 is european t1, 23 bri style interfaces if I remember correctly |
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16:27.54 | puzzled | nicodejo: E1 is the European version of T1. Something like isdn/rdnis with 30 channels |
16:27.55 | Trionnis | I thought it was 29 |
16:28.20 | puzzled | nope |
16:28.20 | pauldy | bah someone google it |
16:28.30 | Trionnis | ~google E1 |
16:28.49 | ryansc | its 32 channels |
16:28.51 | Trionnis | =| |
16:28.53 | nicodejo | Trionnis THX |
16:29.06 | gtigene | nicodejo: I have a document that tells you how to connect to E1 ISDN PRI. I can email it to you. But PRI is expensive if you only need two channels maybe you can use BRI |
16:29.09 | Trionnis | bot's not working, or I dont' remember the command |
16:29.11 | Trionnis | :) |
16:29.22 | pauldy | The E1 interface provides a 2048 kbit/s access rate. It can support up to 32 user channels, each of 64 kbit/s access rate |
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16:29.26 | puzzled | ryansc: ugh, off course. too much headache today |
16:29.37 | coppice | pauldy: wrong |
16:29.47 | puzzled | hehe |
16:29.53 | pauldy | coppice, direct cut and paste from the e1 tutorial |
16:29.54 | puzzled | who gets it right? |
16:29.58 | nicodejo | puzzled thx |
16:30.02 | coppice | they are wrong. |
16:30.12 | Trionnis | I don't think it's 32 channels |
16:30.18 | pauldy | but I read it on the internet |
16:30.20 | nicodejo | my mail niclas_mj5@yahoo.com |
16:30.23 | Trionnis | I'm thinking it's 30 -1 signalling |
16:30.41 | gtigene | E1 ISDN PRI is 32 channels of which only 30 can carry voice |
16:30.57 | nicodejo | puzzled so E1 is not T0 |
16:31.01 | ryansc | thats possible, ive only studied isdn as a data connection |
16:31.02 | coppice | its 31 user channels + 1 sync. In most uses one of the user channels is for signalling, leaving 30 for voice. some things, like SS7, permit 31 voice channels |
16:31.24 | puzzled | nicodejo: I don't know what T0 is. Never heard of it. Is it a french standard? |
16:31.42 | pauldy | uhm coppice hows that different from what I just pasted |
16:31.45 | Trionnis | sounds like ISDN to me |
16:31.52 | nicodejo | puzzled 2 voice cannal + 1 data |
16:31.55 | Trionnis | single channel isdn at that |
16:32.15 | nicodejo | puzzled 2 cannal b and 1 D |
16:32.19 | ryansc | bri is 2B+D |
16:32.21 | Trionnis | ok |
16:32.22 | pauldy | just because it can support doesn't mean they don't have implimentstation for framming and error correction leaving 30 channels for voice |
16:32.23 | puzzled | nicodejo: ah ok so you need a BRI card. basic rate isdn. I gave you examples a bit back |
16:32.30 | ryansc | PRI is 23B+D |
16:32.46 | puzzled | no that's stupid US PRI :) |
16:32.46 | coppice | "It can support up to 32 user channels" |
16:32.48 | coppice | "its 31 user channels" |
16:32.49 | puzzled | we get more |
16:32.50 | coppice | notice a difference there? |
16:33.10 | opus_ | what is hints used for in the dial plan? |
16:33.18 | nicodejo | puzzled thx U saving me ! |
16:33.21 | pauldy | not when you add the sync which give 32 channels |
16:33.36 | mkrufky | puzzled: not stupid US PRI .... just different ;-) |
16:33.42 | puzzled | nicodejo: y're welcome. good luck with building the system. go to voip-info.org for info about asterisk |
16:33.45 | coppice | you seem to have some problem with English |
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16:34.07 | puzzled | mkrufky: yeah, like SPIDs are the invention of a sane person :) |
16:34.54 | pauldy | no I just don't have a problem reading engineering specs |
16:35.33 | coppice | pauldy: well, when you manage to get 32 user channels into an E1, tell me |
16:35.39 | puzzled | pauldy: the *user* part is incorrect. not all chans are *user* as in capable of transporting e.g. voice |
16:35.54 | puzzled | and patent it :) |
16:35.58 | nicodejo | puzzled thx ! i'll go to voip-info.org |
16:36.01 | pauldy | according to the spec for e1 that I just read they can be used for user data |
16:36.15 | coppice | then the spec is wrong |
16:36.23 | generalhan | anyone in here used a cisco 7960 phone with * ? |
16:36.31 | nicodejo | THX every body and bye bye it's evening here i need to sleep ! |
16:36.37 | puzzled | pauldy: perhaps as clear channel but not as a PRI |
16:36.37 | nicodejo | CU |
16:36.44 | pauldy | well it was pretty detailed even going into the function of the demuxer and there did not seem to be a problem with that |
16:37.24 | pauldy | the implimentation of the e1 from your provider however may use the channels differently |
16:37.35 | pauldy | hows that so hard to understand |
16:37.51 | coppice | you seem to be having considerable trouble |
16:37.57 | pauldy | w/e |
16:38.08 | JunK-Y | mooooo |
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16:40.19 | pauldy | I'll clarify you are talking from an implimentation standpoint I'm mearly reading the specs of the standard |
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16:59.56 | blitzrage | bkw_: j00 around? |
17:00.03 | bkw_ | yes |
17:00.24 | blitzrage | bkw_: do you have a couple mins to look at this IAX2 debug to make sure I'm not *cRaZy* ? |
17:00.32 | blitzrage | bkw_: I think matching is wrong in IAX2... |
17:00.37 | blitzrage | (user/peer matching) |
17:00.38 | bkw_ | well I already know you're crazy |
17:00.39 | cypromis | does it contain coffee ? |
17:00.42 | blitzrage | bkw_: :D |
17:00.46 | bkw_ | pastebin it |
17:00.56 | bkw_ | blitzrage, IAX2 has more than that as a problem :P |
17:01.02 | blitzrage | bkw_: I'm sure :) |
17:01.11 | bkw_ | I personally stopped using it |
17:01.22 | blitzrage | yah... no maintainer... |
17:01.30 | blitzrage | but this seems like something that should work... :) |
17:02.42 | bkw_ | blitzrage, chop chop.. ain't got all day boi :P |
17:03.00 | Sedorox | <PROTECTED> |
17:03.02 | Sedorox | er |
17:03.12 | bkw_ | 12:01 up 7 days, 9:45, 5 users, load averages: 0.49 0.62 0.60 |
17:03.14 | bkw_ | ya ya |
17:03.18 | Sedorox | lol |
17:03.21 | Sedorox | <PROTECTED> |
17:03.23 | bkw_ | exec -o baby |
17:03.30 | bkw_ | Darwin imac.local 8.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.2.0: Fri Jun 24 17:46:54 PDT 2005; root:xnu-792.2.4.obj~3/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc |
17:03.34 | Sedorox | yea. but I idn't want to output it :p |
17:04.18 | bkw_ | oh loverly |
17:04.21 | bkw_ | that lined up correctly |
17:05.03 | blitzrage | bkw_: http://pastebin.com/350214 |
17:05.24 | clyrrad | Anyone know of a good URL or working example of how to tell your callers what number they are in the call queue at a predefined interval? |
17:05.49 | blitzrage | clyrrad: asterisk documentation doesn't really work that way... |
17:06.06 | clyrrad | what do you mean documentation? |
17:06.29 | bkw_ | blitzrage, crank up the debug boi |
17:06.43 | clyrrad | Looking for any URL or example to show how to do that :) |
17:06.49 | blitzrage | bkw_: notice the SP is sending it to two different peer names, but the peer is only matching on one (the one at the bottom of the file). If I switch the user/peers around, it matches on a different one |
17:07.06 | JerJer | Sedorox: good luck - we got it operational on a P4 - Prescott without that much trouble |
17:07.15 | blitzrage | clyrrad: yah - asterisk doesn't really get documented like that - you get more of how things work, then you have to usually figure it out yourself |
17:07.24 | JerJer | with a GeForce 5200 video card - looks absolutely amazing |
17:07.48 | clyrrad | blitzrage.... yep kinda noticed that :) Have you implemented what I am trying to do? |
17:08.14 | bkw_ | blitzrage, try doing this without a macro |
17:08.22 | bkw_ | you're doing a macro on one end or the other right? |
17:08.28 | bkw_ | try just a simple play file |
17:08.32 | bkw_ | simplify |
17:08.42 | bkw_ | then if tha tworks... you know macro os hozed again |
17:08.48 | bkw_ | s/os/is/ |
17:09.17 | bkw_ | also an iax2 debug |
17:09.18 | blitzrage | bkw_: dialplan is just a simple play tt-weasels |
17:09.25 | bkw_ | I would have to see the debug |
17:09.43 | Sedorox | [13:07] <JerJer> Sedorox: good luck - we got it operational on a P4 - Prescott without that much trouble |
17:09.44 | Sedorox | cool |
17:09.50 | Sedorox | how did you do it if I may ask? |
17:10.35 | Sedorox | the one way I was gonna try it.. I have to wait for someone, so I can download a iso.. but eh |
17:10.50 | Sedorox | this is a p4 3.2gig EE/HT, Prescott |
17:10.54 | bkw_ | illegal warez talk |
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17:11.24 | Sedorox | :p |
17:11.32 | Sedorox | someone I know tried it.. b |
17:11.34 | bkw_ | my OSX is 100% legit |
17:11.45 | bkw_ | its the one OS I don't mind paying fore |
17:11.49 | Sedorox | but since his computer doesn't have sata it didn't work |
17:11.54 | bkw_ | er for |
17:11.58 | Sedorox | bkw_: honestly.. if they actually release it for x86.. I would by it |
17:12.01 | LoRez | bkw_: are you ever in the OKC area? |
17:12.04 | gordonjcp | got licences for *everything* |
17:12.14 | gordonjcp | even the old/obscure/obsolete stuff |
17:12.14 | bkw_ | LoRez, no.. McAlester, OK area |
17:12.31 | gordonjcp | I may have bought the last ever TSX+ licence |
17:13.25 | LoRez | bkw_: never ever? |
17:13.51 | bkw_ | oh I haven't been to OKC in ages |
17:14.07 | bkw_ | last time was May 3rd 1999... don't really feel like going back :P |
17:14.16 | blitzrage | bkw_: http://pastebin.com/350221 <-- incoming 9921 |
17:14.22 | LoRez | helping with tornado cleanup? |
17:14.32 | Sedorox | hmmm |
17:14.44 | bkw_ | LoRez, no I was in it |
17:14.48 | blitzrage | bkw_: does the same thing if calling from a different user - matches on the last peer/user in the file |
17:14.54 | bkw_ | LoRez, I was under the overpass at Shields and I-35 |
17:14.58 | bkw_ | blitzrage, cause 0 |
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17:15.22 | LoRez | bkw_: nice. my storage unit was right there at that intersection. needless to say it was no more afterwards |
17:15.37 | bkw_ | LoRez, so that was your shit smacking me in the face eh? |
17:15.43 | blitzrage | bkw_: cause 0 - huh? |
17:15.45 | bkw_ | AST_CAUSE_NOTDEFINED |
17:16.01 | bkw_ | line 177 |
17:16.04 | bkw_ | it hangs up with cause 0 |
17:16.05 | LoRez | you didn't happen to see a little goldish pancake air compressor fly by did ya? ;) |
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17:16.24 | hugo-v6 | hi CoaxD |
17:16.24 | Katty | ^_- |
17:16.27 | CoaxD | hiya |
17:16.29 | bkw_ | LoRez, not really... it was aweful dark in the vortex |
17:16.31 | CoaxD | user 'Romeo' is spamming on join |
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17:16.40 | Sedorox | Katty: might wanna have that eye looked at |
17:16.41 | blitzrage | bkw_: thats an entirely different problem - thats at the end, I expect it to hangup at that point |
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17:16.53 | blitzrage | bkw_: its the matching of the peer thats the problem |
17:16.53 | CoaxD | buh bye |
17:16.54 | LoRez | CoaxD: thanks, he's klined :) |
17:16.54 | fugitivo | hello |
17:16.57 | Katty | Sedorox: hrmm? |
17:16.58 | bkw_ | ok |
17:17.04 | Sedorox | :p |
17:17.06 | Katty | Sedorox: as a warning, i'm very annoyed right now |
17:17.20 | CoaxD | Lorez: Appreciate it |
17:17.21 | bkw_ | blitzrage, show me your config for both ends in iax.conf |
17:17.22 | BrianR___ | Has anyone figured a way of sending ephemeral text messages to polycom phones? |
17:17.25 | Katty | Sedorox: as a standard safety precaution, i would recommend not teasing me unless you want to loose a head. :) |
17:17.48 | Sedorox | sorry.. just trying to make a small joke :p |
17:17.53 | Katty | k (= |
17:17.53 | bkw_ | blitzrage, cvs-head? or stable? |
17:18.11 | Sedorox | ;-) |
17:18.15 | CoaxD | Katty: You need to get laid. :P |
17:18.18 | lathos42 | Hmm.. Well, I thought that I would be pitching * by now.. but the president, she is not here |
17:18.22 | Sedorox | what are you annoyed at? work? |
17:18.35 | blitzrage | bkw_: PSTN --> SP (1.0.9) --> Asterisk (HEAD) |
17:18.45 | Katty | CoaxD: lies. |
17:18.50 | blitzrage | bkw_: 1.0.9 is dialing user1 and user2 respectively as expected |
17:18.51 | bkw_ | who is the SP? |
17:18.52 | Katty | CoaxD: having sex does not fix anything. |
17:19.07 | LoRez | Katty: your state of mind it fixes. |
17:19.07 | blitzrage | bkw_: doesnt' really matter :) |
17:19.09 | Sedorox | how about a date with a nice guy? |
17:19.09 | CoaxD | Katty: YES IT DOES! It fixes stress, girl! |
17:19.16 | bkw_ | yes if they installed cvs-head then went back to stable |
17:19.21 | bkw_ | and forgot to rm -rf /usr/include/asterisk |
17:19.23 | blitzrage | bkw_: they didn't |
17:19.28 | bkw_ | it will act funky |
17:19.29 | Katty | LoRez: CoaxD: thanks but i'll stay a virgin for awhile longer. kthxbi |
17:19.33 | blitzrage | bkw_: I did it myself :) |
17:19.35 | bkw_ | ok |
17:19.40 | bkw_ | I recall you learning that lesson already |
17:19.42 | CoaxD | Katty: Doh. Virgins suck. (Well, its the only thing they CAN do.) |
17:19.46 | bjohnson | ?? |
17:19.47 | blitzrage | bkw_: oh yes - many times :D |
17:19.49 | bkw_ | I don't get the exact issue you're having here |
17:19.59 | Katty | CoaxD: hi. shut up and leave me alone? (= |
17:20.00 | bkw_ | can you tell me the bottom line issue you're having because itis not clear |
17:20.02 | blitzrage | bkw_: ok, let me try to explain... (because it really wierd) |
17:20.04 | *** join/#asterisk mogorman (n=mogorman@digium.com) |
17:20.05 | bkw_ | blitzrage, call 996 |
17:20.06 | CoaxD | Katty: hi thx bye |
17:20.08 | hugo-v6 | .o(virgins here?) |
17:20.13 | Katty | CoaxD: kthx |
17:20.14 | blitzrage | bkw_: calling |
17:20.15 | Sedorox | <--- virgin... |
17:20.16 | CoaxD | katty: kthx |
17:20.22 | bjohnson | htnx |
17:20.27 | Morakai | <- ASterisk virgin |
17:20.27 | hugo-v6 | Sedorox: im not intrestet thx ;) |
17:20.27 | CoaxD | Sedorox: Aside from having a 5 year old son, i'm a virgin :) :) |
17:20.33 | hugo-v6 | s/et/ed/ |
17:20.33 | Sedorox | lol |
17:20.50 | CleanerX | could someone stop redirecting traffic from #flirt ? |
17:20.57 | Nugget | when did #asterisk turn into #teenchat? :) |
17:20.58 | fugitivo | last night it was a chat about trains, sex and pigs |
17:21.04 | Sedorox | lol |
17:21.04 | fugitivo | now it's about virgins |
17:21.10 | Sedorox | lol |
17:21.15 | hugo-v6 | .o(hmmmm pigs) |
17:21.41 | Katty | bkw_: i need a hug, dear. |
17:21.44 | gordonjcp | mmmmmm piiiiiiigs |
17:22.04 | hugo-v6 | .o(suckling pigs) |
17:22.21 | bjohnson | fugitivo: you missed the chickens |
17:22.23 | Hmmhesays | whoa |
17:22.28 | tzanger | hahaha |
17:22.38 | Katty | Hmmhesays: hug plskthx. |
17:24.09 | Sedorox | hmmm |
17:24.20 | generalhan | Anyone in here familar with the cisco 7960s with asterisk ???? i need alittle help ! |
17:24.37 | Nugget | sure. |
17:24.38 | Katty | generalhan: just ask your question. |
17:24.47 | Nugget | er, I mean... |
17:24.49 | Nugget | sure !!!! |
17:25.01 | Katty | <PROTECTED> |
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17:25.49 | generalhan | well ... i loaded up the tftp server and put the files in there. i think i have followed all the instructions on the wiki, yet when i load up my phone it just sits at the "requesting configuration" and hangs there forever |
17:26.00 | hardwire | weird problem. |
17:26.06 | hardwire | I will often dial via sip to an iax provider |
17:26.13 | hardwire | and be stuck in an echo |
17:26.21 | Nugget | check the tftpd logs and see if the phone is making requests |
17:26.26 | hardwire | while the call completes the phone I am calling from is still echoed |
17:26.43 | generalhan | Nugget: i appologize im a big time newb to this ... what logs ? |
17:26.50 | hardwire | sometimes its more than that.. I actually pick up a zap channel |
17:26.53 | hardwire | or steal it |
17:26.55 | Nugget | the logs for your tftpd server. |
17:27.00 | generalhan | right but where are they ? |
17:27.01 | hardwire | anybody ever experienced this? |
17:27.04 | fugitivo | hardwire: what do you mean via sip to an iax provider? |
17:27.06 | Nugget | I don't know, it's your server. |
17:27.12 | hardwire | sorry |
17:27.13 | generalhan | haha |
17:27.21 | hardwire | via a sip phone.. to asterisk to iax to the provider |
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17:27.46 | hardwire | we have 30 snom 360s connected to a * box and this behaviour is hapening.. also one T1 coming into the same box |
17:27.47 | Hmmhesays | whoops missed that one |
17:28.00 | Katty | Sedorox: if i wanted a hug from you, i would have asked. |
17:28.02 | hardwire | its like the zap channels are mixy moshing.. even when I don't want to use them |
17:28.05 | blitzrage | bkw_: thx for the help |
17:28.08 | Sedorox | sorry... |
17:28.14 | Katty | Sedorox: (= |
17:28.16 | blitzrage | everyone send bkw_ a $1 for me :D |
17:28.19 | Katty | DarthClue: :>> |
17:28.23 | bkw_ | blitzrage, np |
17:28.25 | fugitivo | hardwire: check the network status |
17:28.34 | DarthClue | blitzrage: come to cluecon and we'll get right on that. |
17:28.38 | pauldy | ok but you send me $2 first |
17:28.38 | Morakai | anyone know anything about the SPA3000? |
17:28.40 | Darwin35 | ok I have tested this on linux and bsd and get the same issue. iax2 ->asterisk->pstn->nmbr dialed. it rings 4 times. then when it should go to voice mail i get a busy toone |
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17:28.51 | Darwin35 | and it happens on both linux and fbsd |
17:28.54 | bjohnson | Morakai: yes. lots of good info on the wiki |
17:29.00 | Borgon | Are there any iax2 commands for asteriskwin32? |
17:29.03 | hardwire | fugitivo: actually.. I am on the IAX provider machine.. and the one handling the phones |
17:29.10 | hardwire | the call goes through but the channel isn't bridged |
17:29.14 | pauldy | Darwin have you checked your voicemail conf |
17:29.18 | hardwire | I can answer the phone.. nobody on the line |
17:29.31 | hardwire | this happens to 5% of our calls |
17:29.36 | Darwin35 | your not understanding |
17:29.42 | Darwin35 | my voicemail works fine |
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17:29.50 | pauldy | Darwin35, run asterisk with asterisk -c -dddd -vvvv |
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17:30.00 | Grumbly | hello |
17:30.00 | JerJer | wholy d's batman |
17:30.00 | pauldy | what is happening when it does get congestion |
17:30.10 | Morakai | bjohnson: for the Spa3000? |
17:30.11 | DarthClue | how have you been Katty? |
17:30.13 | Darwin35 | its when I dial my iax2 phone thru asterisk to provider - to friends nmbr |
17:30.24 | Katty | DarthClue: annoyed at microsoft and dell. |
17:30.25 | JerJer | turn on debug for your channel |
17:30.35 | Morakai | BJOHNSON: I'm trying to figure out if I "need" a line plugged into the line port |
17:30.38 | Katty | DarthClue: and stupid people on okcupid that randomly start talking to me after i post new pictures. |
17:30.41 | Darwin35 | my friends line rings 4 times then gets a busy tone when I should get his voicemail |
17:30.44 | pauldy | sorry I didn't look at your flow |
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17:30.56 | Morakai | Bjohnson: since its just supposed to be using Rj45 |
17:30.58 | DarthClue | hehe. yeah, stupid people. |
17:31.00 | pauldy | in any event run asterisk -c -vvvv -dddd and see what it says when you have te problem |
17:31.00 | gooagle | hi |
17:31.15 | gooagle | anyone have any issues with talking over one another with SIP to SIP to PSTN termination? |
17:31.16 | Cresl1n | kram: made you look |
17:31.25 | Darwin35 | and this happens on both linux and fbsd |
17:31.27 | Grumbly | Could someone tell me if asterisk can be used to retrieve logs from a panasonic kx-td500 pbx? |
17:31.28 | pauldy | it should give you a hint as to what is going on |
17:31.57 | Grumbly | I'm honestly just looking for a logger for my pbx but can't relaly find anything about it |
17:32.12 | Borgon | Anyone got a clue on chanoss.c line error input/output device? I get an error looping on asterisk and it doesnt allow me to do anything |
17:32.14 | fugitivo | Darwin35: is the call established? |
17:32.32 | fugitivo | Grumbly: use asterisk cdr |
17:32.56 | Grumbly | yeah, I'm building that next, but don't want to waste my time if Its not going to work... |
17:33.14 | Grumbly | cdr says it'll work with some other panasonic pbx's but nothing about this one |
17:33.17 | fugitivo | you'll never know if you don't "waste" your time |
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17:33.25 | Grumbly | oops sorry |
17:33.34 | Grumbly | eh... |
17:33.56 | Grumbly | yeah... I guess you're correct |
17:34.22 | generalhan | Nugget: maybe i dont have my TFTP server set up correctly ?? what distro are you using ? |
17:34.28 | pauldy | Grumbly whats it do just dump via serial |
17:34.37 | Nugget | I don't use a distro. |
17:34.39 | gordonjcp | hey there, mr Blue, we're so pleased to be with you |
17:34.41 | Nugget | I don't use linux. |
17:34.41 | generalhan | lol |
17:34.44 | generalhan | i see |
17:34.51 | Grumbly | that, and be able to convert the logs into a visually apealing graph |
17:34.52 | Borgon | Anyone got a clue on chanoss.c line error input/output device? I get an error looping on asterisk and it doesnt allow me to do anything |
17:34.53 | Nugget | and yes, maybe you do have your tftp server set up incorrectly |
17:35.04 | fugitivo | generalhan: search the tftp logs, you'll know the problem if you look at the logs |
17:35.28 | pauldy | Darwin35, have you checked the utput of asterisk -c -vvvv -dddd yet? |
17:35.42 | generalhan | fugitivo, i dont know how to do that. can you walk me through it |
17:36.09 | fugitivo | generalhan: i could, but it's not an asterisk related issue |
17:36.20 | generalhan | well hell .... |
17:36.29 | Borgon | generalhan: what do you neeD? |
17:36.41 | generalhan | Borgon: can i PM you |
17:37.57 | Borgon | yeah shoot |
17:38.45 | JerJer | generalhan: can you ? |
17:39.29 | Borgon | Is anyone here familiar with a input/ouput looping error when starting asterisk on chan_oss.c? |
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17:40.39 | Katty | Hmmhesays: you never hugged me. |
17:41.05 | Katty | Hmmhesays: that's bad customer relations! |
17:41.40 | zippp | Katty, you watch king of the hill or something :) |
17:42.15 | Hmmhesays | good thing you aren't a customer |
17:42.21 | gordonjcp | bag idea to hug strange cats |
17:42.33 | generalhan | ls |
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17:42.40 | gordonjcp | s/bag/bad/ |
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17:43.01 | gordonjcp | how do you encode a hug? |
17:43.05 | gordonjcp | is there a mime type? |
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17:43.18 | Hmmhesays | geek. |
17:43.27 | pussfeller | what ports I need to forward from the router to use an IAX2 account with my asterisk server |
17:43.30 | Nugget | heh |
17:43.36 | Hmmhesays | <chuckle> |
17:43.46 | Hmmhesays | so opal looks pretty cool |
17:44.04 | trimi` | hello does any know how can i configure my asterisk to place SIP phone calls (ONLY OUTGOING ) but my machine its befind NAT and my machine has dynamic IP |
17:44.11 | Hmmhesays | you obviously have no sense of humor Grumbly |
17:44.14 | Hmmhesays | :D |
17:44.16 | zippp | pussfeller, is you asterisk server registering or is something registering with it? |
17:44.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Anyone here have a functioning XML page for a Polycom Microbrowser by any chance? |
17:44.27 | Grumbly | :) |
17:44.44 | Hmmhesays | LOL |
17:44.50 | trimi` | hello does any know how can i configure my asterisk to place SIP phone calls (ONLY OUTGOING ) but my machine its befind NAT and my machine has dynamic IP |
17:44.50 | Hmmhesays | taint bad |
17:44.57 | pussfeller | zippp: i assume I am registering, its my nufone did and ld |
17:45.13 | Hmmhesays | trimi' if whatever you are calling takes care of the nat translation |
17:45.14 | zippp | pussfeller, you need to open _no_ ports |
17:45.16 | bjohnson | trimi`: start by reading the wiki |
17:45.24 | trimi` | i did |
17:45.26 | trimi` | i read |
17:45.27 | Grumbly | you are all black kettles |
17:45.27 | zippp | IAX2 uses 1 port and it will stay alive through nat just fine |
17:45.31 | trimi` | and i cant make it working |
17:45.37 | Hmmhesays | 71C sweet geebus this laptop gets hot |
17:45.41 | bjohnson | what errors do you get |
17:45.52 | pussfeller | zippp: oh yeah? thats cool, thanks |
17:46.09 | pussfeller | i guess that is what the advantage is of IAX over sip |
17:46.19 | *** part/#asterisk darko__ (n=dsf@ti211310a081-4251.bb.online.no) |
17:46.21 | zippp | one of a few, unless you ask bkw_ :) |
17:46.24 | DarthClue | ~seen ManxPower |
17:46.30 | jbot | manxpower <n=eric@dsl-209-16-67-160.datasync.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 22h 18m 56s ago, saying: 'ride is here!'. |
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17:47.26 | ginvent | Anyone know how I find out what is doing this: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 |
17:47.32 | ginvent | I lsof, but how do I look only at 80. |
17:47.51 | DarthClue | ginvent: just use nmap |
17:47.58 | zippp | ginvent, netstat -anp|grep 80 |
17:47.59 | pussfeller | try netstat -autvnp |
17:48.37 | ginvent | Ah... apache-perl is listening. |
17:49.20 | Darwin35 | ok found it and they are fixing it |
17:49.23 | zippp | `init 0` should fix it ;) |
17:49.26 | Darwin35 | its was teliax |
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17:51.45 | tuxinator_linuxM | Spanish 'Jerry Springer' shows are funny |
17:53.07 | pauldy | Darwin35, what was the problem? provider issue |
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17:56.31 | bjohnson | tuxinator_linuxM: english ones too |
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17:57.54 | tuxinator_linuxM | bjohnson: Moved on to "the price is right". "please help control the pet population, have your pet spade or neutered" |
17:58.23 | pawalls | Hey.. who works on chan_sip? |
17:58.29 | pawalls | I have an interesting problem. |
17:58.53 | pawalls | the sip_invite_param structure is reset when a SIP peer requests authentication. |
17:59.02 | tuxinator_linuxM | pawalls: bugs.digium.com? |
17:59.20 | pawalls | I want to talk to someone to make sure it's intended. |
17:59.24 | pawalls | Basically this happens: |
17:59.31 | hugo-v6 | my male dog keeps a dog with 2 tails :> |
17:59.36 | pawalls | INVITE <sip: .......>;options |
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18:00.07 | pawalls | Then the phone sends back a "401 Unauthorized" then when Asterisk builds the next INVITE (including auth) it leaves out the ";options" portion. |
18:00.14 | *** join/#asterisk Harlock (n=himeko@S01060040ca128fc3.ed.shawcable.net) |
18:00.14 | pawalls | However.. it seems to keep the ack |
18:00.19 | pawalls | Keep it in the ACK rather. |
18:00.25 | *** join/#asterisk Harlock (n=himeko@S01060040ca128fc3.ed.shawcable.net) |
18:00.31 | tuxinator_linuxM | hugo-v6: Some guys need to be neutered. |
18:00.44 | fugitivo | the ability for communication of my dog is more complex than some humans |
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18:03.08 | hugo-v6 | tuxinator_linuxM: well, but not mine :) its purebred, good at working on the dog place and is a beatuy that makes rottweiler girls horny. |
18:03.29 | hugo-v6 | (like hell if i may add) |
18:03.36 | tuxinator_linuxM | hugo-v6: ;-) |
18:04.21 | hugo-v6 | :p |
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18:05.37 | tuxinator_linuxM | back to work for me |
18:06.19 | hugo-v6 | l8r pals |
18:06.32 | BrianR___ | all these fancy LCD's on the sip phones, and no way to use 'em like on ADSI... |
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18:07.48 | twisted[work] | drumkilla! |
18:08.23 | drumkilla_ | twisted[work]: !!! |
18:08.42 | twisted[work] | what's up |
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18:08.59 | drumkilla_ | school .... |
18:09.15 | drumkilla_ | just killing some time in the library - then I have a meeting with a Computer Science professor in an hour |
18:09.30 | drumkilla_ | he's doing some VoIP research, so he wants to get me involved |
18:09.41 | bkw_ | SIP ROCKS |
18:09.44 | bkw_ | IAX2 SUCKS |
18:09.51 | bkw_ | audio quality wise that is |
18:09.55 | bkw_ | not in concept |
18:10.05 | Netgeeks | I'm starting to agree with you bkw |
18:10.13 | Netgeeks | but for alot more than audio quality |
18:10.44 | opus_ | hey guys whats this new 'setting a label' function in asterisk 1.2? |
18:10.55 | tzanger | bkw_: uh |
18:11.02 | generalhan | can anyone help me get my tftp server up and running ? i know its not really an asterisk question but it has to do with getting my asterisk box up and running ! lol |
18:11.07 | opus_ | like, exten => s,n(checkpoint),macro(checkaccount) that Olle describes |
18:11.07 | tzanger | how in the blue fuck is SIP/IAX2 any different in terms of audio *quality* ? |
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18:11.23 | bkw_ | because iax2 has issues |
18:11.30 | tzanger | bkw_: ... such as |
18:11.30 | bkw_ | you can have 10-30 second audio drop outs |
18:11.34 | bkw_ | with IAX2 |
18:11.37 | bkw_ | because it uses a single port |
18:11.40 | bkw_ | we have been over this before |
18:11.45 | tzanger | it has absolutely nothing to do with a single port |
18:12.01 | bkw_ | actually it has something to do with the implementation in asterisk |
18:12.08 | tzanger | bkw_: I could agree with that :-) |
18:12.20 | bkw_ | it still has limits on how far it can scale |
18:12.56 | bkw_ | but the implementation needs to be fixed ASAP |
18:13.00 | fugitivo | is that an asterisk issue or protocol? |
18:13.09 | bkw_ | the protocol is fine |
18:13.13 | bkw_ | its how its implemented in asterisk |
18:13.21 | bkw_ | a single thread for all calls |
18:13.39 | Katty | zippp: no |
18:13.41 | Katty | Hmmhesays: thanks. |
18:15.36 | BrianR___ | tzanger: Getting closer to my asterisk / norstar rollout |
18:15.42 | BrianR___ | tzanger: about 15 days and counting... |
18:15.43 | opus_ | whats a cheap 24port QoS fast ethernet switch? |
18:15.45 | JerJer | anyone heard from ManxPower lately? |
18:15.48 | tzanger | BrianR___: nice |
18:16.14 | BrianR___ | tzanger: Would still like the ability to display ephemeral text on the screens of my SIP phones, but I think we can roll out without that. |
18:16.20 | tuxinator_linuxM | ~seen ManxPower |
18:16.26 | jbot | manxpower <n=eric@dsl-209-16-67-160.datasync.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 22h 48m 52s ago, saying: 'ride is here!'. |
18:16.38 | BrianR___ | called party identification would be nice too, ie if 301 has their phone forwarded to 302 it shows on a caller's display. But we can live without that also for now. |
18:16.48 | fugitivo | JerJer: i did before katrina... |
18:16.59 | JerJer | yeah i would like to know about after |
18:17.04 | mcn | just put a Digium TDM01B card in a machine, but it doesn't seem to be recognised at all |
18:17.09 | mcn | any ideas anybody? |
18:17.41 | tzanger | I didn't think he was around there |
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18:18.03 | JerJer | he moved to New Orleans not all that long ago |
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18:18.23 | tzanger | JerJer: I'm sure he's evacuated then |
18:18.24 | Borgon | is the chan_oss module required to run asterisk properly? I am getting a input/output error |
18:18.29 | fugitivo | anyone using SoundPoint phones? |
18:18.38 | doolph | what's the difference between sipura 2000 and 2002 |
18:19.10 | tuxinator_linuxM | doolph: 2 |
18:19.28 | fugitivo | Borgon: not really, put noload => chan_oss.so in your modules.conf |
18:19.40 | opus_ | is sqlite a good alternative to a RDBMS? does it really work well with asterisk? (I've had a lot of bugs/issues with unixODBC and asterisk) |
18:19.56 | doolph | 2 what |
18:20.27 | Delvar | ~ping |
18:20.29 | jbot | pong |
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18:20.37 | tuxinator_linuxM | doolph: I was just being a smart ass |
18:20.51 | Borgon | fugitivo: ok, with the oss module missing would that interfer with performance using iax and a softphone? |
18:21.16 | sivana | can the accountcode parameter be set in the zapata.conf? |
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18:26.38 | Umaro | Hey guys, any experts on 1.2.0-beta1 here? |
18:26.51 | Umaro | trying to figure out how the AMI command "Variable:" changed |
18:26.59 | puzzled | README.variables |
18:27.03 | JerJer | nope this channel is only for the discussion of the ascii character * |
18:27.30 | fugitivo_ | lol |
18:27.52 | opus_ | Umaro did you see Olly's slide presentation |
18:28.09 | Umaro | opus_: no.. where is it? |
18:28.10 | opus_ | i can't figure it out either. all my old stuff still works |
18:28.33 | Umaro | opus_: you mean in terms of the AMI Variable: thing? |
18:28.52 | opus_ | http://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/img0.shtml |
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18:29.10 | [hC] | Hey guys.. |
18:29.30 | [hC] | Once on the SIP image my cisco 7940/60's dont seem to request dialplan.xml anymore.. Anyone else experience that? |
18:31.01 | opus_ | http://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/img36.shtml |
18:31.16 | opus_ | "Serveral changes on the way Authorization class in every packet" what ever that means |
18:31.43 | hardwire | Meny? |
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18:32.03 | bowman | heya. how can I run the demo on a freshly setup asterisk? |
18:32.15 | opus_ | I don't understand that, and I don't understand how in extensions, priorities can have labels inside of ('s and )'s |
18:32.15 | crash3m | theres a demo? |
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18:32.24 | hardwire | http://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/img39.shtml |
18:32.31 | hardwire | many cell phones support ogg/vorbis? |
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18:32.35 | hardwire | how does that relate to asterisk? |
18:32.42 | opus_ | bowman - cd /usr/src/asterisk && make install && make configs && make samples |
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18:32.53 | opus_ | then run /etc/init.d/asterisk start, and then dial extension 500 |
18:32.58 | bowman | I'd like to use my headset and the ALSA module, I would need a softphone in addition, right? |
18:33.43 | doolph | uh |
18:33.59 | pawalls | Okay I fixed the problem with sip invites. |
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18:34.13 | florz | any hint where struct zt_span.desc is visible to the user or what it's good for otherwise` |
18:34.16 | florz | ? |
18:34.26 | axscode | hello just want to ask.. whats the smallest compression for VoIP? and the most common used?? |
18:34.46 | pawalls | Hmm... |
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18:35.01 | crash3m | smallest as in the least compressed, or results int he least bandwidth? |
18:35.01 | pawalls | So markster and kpfleming are pretty much the only people that work on chan_sip? |
18:35.15 | opus_ | axscode i think g729 is something like 8-15kbps ? and is most commonly used in terms of hardware |
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18:35.37 | drewskie | hey everyone, ive been reading in the forums about Vonage and Asterix and had a quick Q.... - If i setup an Asterix PBX @ Work, and have Vonage at home, will I be able to transfer calls from work to home? |
18:35.48 | JerJer | LPC-10 baby! |
18:35.48 | drumkilla_ | pawalls: no ... |
18:36.12 | drewskie | telephone service @ work =/ VOIP |
18:36.59 | pawalls | drumkilla, They seem to be doing majority of commits. |
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18:37.16 | drewskie | all i really want to do is work from home, and have them be able to transfer calls from the work office to my house |
18:37.24 | pawalls | drumkilla, I am about to fix a pretty silly problem in chan_sip, but I'd like to know if my fix makes sense. |
18:37.26 | drewskie | so im having to do this all on my own |
18:37.29 | pawalls | drumkilla, Before I spend the time on it. |
18:37.48 | drumkilla_ | pawalls: well, it is true that only a small group does commits |
18:37.56 | drumkilla_ | but many people contribute |
18:38.14 | drumkilla_ | oej, for example, is a major contributor to chan_sip |
18:38.36 | pawalls | Basically when asterisk receives a 401 Unauthorized response to an INVITE, it calls "do_proxy_auth" which does not look for channel variables and set up the options structure (it's essentially empty) |
18:38.40 | oej | pawalls: What do you want to fix? |
18:39.26 | pawalls | I propose moving this out of sip_call and into a separate function (maybe sip_channel_options or something) and call it from sip_call and from do_proxy_auth |
18:39.34 | drewskie | hey everyone, ive done my research on Asterisk and Vonage but I had one quick Q....all i really want to do is be able to transfer calls from work (where the asterisk pbx will live) to my house (where my vonage account will be), is this possible? |
18:39.36 | pawalls | What happens is this (causing Snom intercom not to work): |
18:39.37 | *** join/#asterisk mutilator (n=animenod@65.111.201.79) |
18:39.48 | pawalls | ===> INVITE <sip:blah blah>;intercom=true |
18:39.53 | zippp | drewskie, why don't you just go directly from home to work over iax2 or sip |
18:39.54 | pawalls | <=== 401 Unauthorized |
18:39.59 | zippp | no need to pay vonage |
18:40.01 | pawalls | ===> ACK |
18:40.10 | drewskie | zippp: didnt know i could do that |
18:40.12 | pawalls | ===> INVITE <sip:blah blah> |
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18:40.22 | drewskie | zippp: just like setting another extension? |
18:40.23 | Borgon | which port does asterisk work under.. 4569? |
18:40.36 | pawalls | oej, So as you can see, some data is lost. Would be nice if it would just retransmit the same original packet with added "Authentication" headers. |
18:40.42 | zippp | drewskie, anyone in here can call anyone else over sip or iax2 without a number, just call host.com/ext |
18:40.46 | fugitivo | Borgon: for what? |
18:40.47 | Hmmhesays | if your vonage residential box will accept a call from an unregistered source |
18:40.54 | pawalls | oej, But for now, this would be a good enough solution as it would require some significant reworking to do what I said. |
18:41.10 | blitzmere | newbie here, does anyone know how to get the webmin module to run with webmin |
18:41.10 | drewskie | zippp: im a little new to VOIP, just trying to keep my head above water and be able to work from home =] |
18:41.14 | oej | pawalls: Which options? |
18:41.17 | Hmmhesays | otherwise you can register asterisk with vonage at your business and have an extension at home |
18:41.24 | drewskie | i know how skype works, so it would be the same deal? |
18:41.30 | drewskie | but with a real phone =] |
18:41.31 | Borgon | fugitivo: am running asterisk locally... I got a firewall on my pc so i need to open the tcp/udp port |
18:41.33 | pawalls | oej, For example.. checking asterisk chan vars such as VXML_URL |
18:41.47 | fugitivo | Borgon: it depends, what do you want to use, sip, iax2? |
18:41.55 | pawalls | oej, Mind if I speak with you for a moment in query? |
18:41.58 | oej | pawalls: Let me take a look at it |
18:42.05 | oej | pawalls: You're welcome |
18:42.14 | docelm0 | Does anyone know if asterisk can do a standalone reinvite of a sip packet to a different media gateway? |
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18:42.40 | afrosheen | hello hello |
18:42.55 | Borgon | fugitivo: am using iax2 |
18:43.51 | blitzmere | anyone |
18:44.33 | bowman | damn. is soundcore alsa or oss? |
18:45.05 | florz | bowman: both IIRC |
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18:45.48 | blitzmere | can anyone help me |
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18:46.46 | distortio | anyone alive in here that uses h323? |
18:47.05 | *** part/#asterisk drumkilla_ (n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla) |
18:47.12 | Umaro | can anyone tell me why astman_get_variables was removed from manager.c in 1.2.0-beta1? |
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18:47.33 | Rowter | could I have a tdm04b on a PCIX? |
18:47.54 | bowman | I obviously have no chance at all to get anything running over ALSA or OSS, anyone ever tried that? |
18:47.56 | Umaro | 1.2.0-beta1's manager.c uses astman_get_header instead, but that won't work properly for the Variable arg of originate |
18:48.04 | blitzmere | i could really use the help, I would like to get teh webmin module to work. has anyone here tried it |
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18:48.49 | florz | blitzmere: If you ask twice a second, someone will materialize who will be able to help you. |
18:48.52 | Rowter | http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7505/X5DAE.cfm for 3 tdm04b ? |
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18:49.52 | blitzmere | sorry florz |
18:50.20 | Borgon | What udp/tcp ports need to be open for iax2? |
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18:51.11 | [hC] | 4569 UDP i believe |
18:51.20 | [hC] | i might have that port number wrong, im going from memory |
18:51.20 | afrosheen | hc is correct |
18:51.31 | afrosheen | it's in the * wiki |
18:51.31 | wwalker | blitzmere URL to the module? I've got a webmin setup and could try it (while I wait for florz to answer my debug logging question :) |
18:51.43 | [hC] | Once on the SIP image my cisco 7940/60's dont seem to request dialplan.xml anymore.. Anyone else experience that? |
18:51.45 | wwalker | In an app, can I "set the debug level for that app only, not for core (hard coded in the app*.c file is fine as long as it doesn't affect core)"? |
18:51.59 | bowman | any other softphones working with asterisk apart from kphone and gnophone? |
18:52.09 | blitzmere | wwalker http://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/webmin/ |
18:52.33 | blitzmere | bowman I heared xten works |
18:53.43 | Rav1974 | wwalker: check the voip-info.com website |
18:54.26 | zippp | bowman, if you use linux I would recommend kiax |
18:54.28 | zippp | really nice |
18:54.45 | tzanger | kiax? |
18:54.47 | afrosheen | bowman: the xten is probably the best on windows, linux is iffy |
18:54.51 | Umaro | hmm.. this is very odd |
18:55.02 | zippp | kaix, uses stevek iaxclient |
18:55.23 | afrosheen | hope it's a little better developed than kphone |
18:55.27 | zippp | much better |
18:55.31 | zippp | kphone sucks |
18:55.35 | zippp | kiax is iax2 only |
18:55.38 | zippp | works great for me |
18:55.39 | afrosheen | I think the author of kphone just gave up 2 years ago |
18:55.47 | tzanger | holy fuck |
18:55.48 | zippp | yea, kinda like gnophone ;) |
18:55.54 | tzanger | a softphone that isn't stupidly skinned |
18:55.58 | zippp | yep |
18:56.06 | zippp | been living under a stone? |
18:56.09 | zippp | j/k |
18:56.30 | bowman | yeah, linux... kiax? googling :) |
18:56.37 | afrosheen | does * support shared call appearances, i.e. 2 phones sharing one extension number? |
18:56.38 | fugitivo | emerge kiax |
18:56.45 | zippp | afrosheen, yes |
18:56.51 | afrosheen | how would one go about that |
18:57.04 | afrosheen | without grouping |
18:57.09 | zippp | afrosheen, well, just Dial(IAX2/phone1&IAX2/phone2 |
18:57.15 | afrosheen | k |
18:57.38 | distortio | does the asterisk h323 channel (nufone) work/translate h323 -> sip or sip -> h323? I get a call to ring h323 -> sip and as soon as it connects it drops to "no path to translate". |
18:58.08 | JerJer | make a path to translate then |
18:58.44 | afrosheen | haha |
18:58.50 | distortio | well, checking first if it is actually works before i dive in :) |
18:58.57 | jarrod | hey.. anyone ran into problems with MGCP not hanging up properly? |
18:59.25 | JerJer | then just use ulaw or alaw |
18:59.41 | distortio | not sure if that is a codec mismatch problem, cause i have both ends setup ulaw |
19:00.08 | wwalker | blitzmere http://pastebin.ca/21625 |
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19:00.39 | axscode | can i use.. v29 fax modem for asterisk? so that it can call a pstn fone? |
19:01.12 | wwalker | Rav1974 and search for what? debug returns too many hits. I need to specifically adjust the debug for a given app, but not for other apps or the core? |
19:02.14 | distortio | ok, i was wrong- codecs werent matched to ulaw. |
19:02.19 | distortio | bleh |
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19:04.54 | axscode | ~FXO |
19:04.55 | jbot | foreign exchange office - type of port you need to connect a POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line from your telco to a pbx http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=fxsvfxo |
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19:05.18 | axscode | ~pbx |
19:05.19 | jbot | i guess pbx is a Private Branch eXchange |
19:05.32 | JerJer | ~pbx |
19:05.33 | jbot | [pbx] a Private Branch eXchange |
19:06.03 | axscode | what is a PBX exactly? a device? |
19:06.11 | Rowter | anyone has set a tdm card on a pci-x it works? |
19:06.13 | axscode | or ASTERISK is the PBX? |
19:06.26 | crich1999 | axscode, Asterisk is A PBX |
19:06.26 | *** join/#asterisk Master-V (n=ask@219.95.202.31) |
19:06.45 | Master-V | dear everyone, i am asterisk beginner |
19:06.46 | afrosheen | a PBX used to be a gigantic expensive box |
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19:07.06 | axscode | .o so i can use a v29 modem to link my POTS to my ASTERISK? |
19:07.16 | crich1999 | axscode, PBXs are Telephone and Trunk managing devices (and as afrosheen said quite expensive) |
19:07.40 | Master-V | can i have example of config file, which can forward FWD into my SIP? |
19:07.57 | *** part/#asterisk jose (n=jose@pcp01649886pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
19:08.11 | afrosheen | Master-V: what are you trying to accomplish, getting your sip extension registered with FWD or what |
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19:09.40 | Master-V | can i make whatever call to my FWD, it will forward to my local extenstion 3000 in my asterisk |
19:10.01 | crich1999 | axscode, yes you can do so, but it depends on your modems capabilities |
19:10.02 | fugitivo | Master-V: are you using sip or iax2 for fwd? |
19:10.20 | Master-V | i already signup with FWD |
19:10.21 | naturalblue | anyone know any tweaks for lowering echo/delay on voip call to pstn my setup is running on wireless broadband |
19:10.32 | Master-V | now i running asterisk in freebsd |
19:10.48 | fugitivo | Master-V: iax2 or sip? |
19:10.49 | naturalblue | also im using ilbc to lower bandwidth use |
19:10.52 | Master-V | sip |
19:10.56 | axscode | ok.. i dont know whats my modem thouhg it says... Soft v.29 modem |
19:11.03 | afrosheen | naturalblue: are you getting near-end echo or ? |
19:11.22 | bowman | kiax works fine. now I only need a working headset where the mic isn't broken :) |
19:11.33 | blitzmere | ok here is another question. is there a doc for the configureation of asterisk |
19:11.35 | fugitivo | Master-V: show me your sip.conf registration line |
19:11.47 | afrosheen | <PROTECTED> |
19:11.54 | Master-V | show u in private window? |
19:11.59 | naturalblue | i say someting then about a 1/2 sec later i hear it on the far end and thats when the receiver hears it |
19:12.08 | naturalblue | them to me seems to be fine |
19:12.19 | fugitivo | Master-V: if it's only one line it's ok here |
19:12.24 | afrosheen | naturalblue: so you're getting echo in your ear but your caller doesn't hear it right? |
19:12.46 | naturalblue | no the other caller doesnt hear the echo |
19:12.58 | Master-V | fugi: register => 694194:mypass@fwd.pulver.com/3000 |
19:13.01 | naturalblue | but when i hear the echo its at that moment they hear my voice |
19:13.03 | fugitivo | naturalblue: what hardware? |
19:13.07 | *** part/#asterisk ctooley (n=ctooley@rrcs-24-227-212-181.sw.biz.rr.com) |
19:13.07 | naturalblue | so a 1/2 delaye |
19:13.08 | Master-V | fugi: is it correct? |
19:13.12 | afrosheen | naturalblue: you're getting near-end echo then, there are a number of reasons for it and different ways to fight it |
19:13.36 | afrosheen | if it's wireless the knee-jerk response would be latency issues but it may be alot more |
19:13.39 | naturalblue | fugitivo: you mean my asterisk box? or phones? or both? |
19:14.00 | naturalblue | stupid wireless |
19:14.20 | fugitivo | naturalblue: your fxo |
19:14.47 | naturalblue | ciscvo ata 186 with a dect phone attahced to it |
19:14.48 | Master-V | fugu: :( |
19:15.06 | fugitivo | Master-V: the line is correct, what do you need to do? |
19:15.13 | axscode | just want to ask.. if someone dial to a POST which is connected to my ASTERISK... what happend? does asterisk route the call to anyone you like to recieve the outside call? |
19:15.38 | *** join/#asterisk Ariel_ (n=Ariel@adsl-068-157-125-248.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
19:15.47 | naturalblue | should do, unless you have it set to go to a ring group or something like that |
19:15.56 | Master-V | fugi: my 3000 din ring, when anyone call to 694194@fwd.pulver.com |
19:16.09 | fugitivo | Master-V: yes |
19:16.10 | axscode | o oh.. so i can recieve calls from the outside... |
19:16.15 | axscode | thats nice.. |
19:16.49 | *** join/#asterisk spackle (n=spackle@209.234.83.19) |
19:16.55 | Master-V | fugi: i want 3000 ring, when someone call 694194@fwd.pulver.com |
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19:18.41 | [hC] | how can you handle which g726 codec asterisk will use for communication? (ie the 16/24/32 modes) |
19:18.56 | axscode | last question.. im using a celeron 2.2ghz + 512 DDR. how many calls can it support simultanously example using xlite softfone.. |
19:19.11 | fugitivo | axscode: a lot |
19:19.19 | axscode | fugitivo: how many is a lot? |
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19:19.47 | axscode | im having it on a local area network for example... |
19:20.04 | axscode | so bandwidth is 100MBPS... |
19:20.11 | fugitivo | axscode: hard to say, what codec, number of simultaneous calls... |
19:20.17 | spackle | axscode: 379 |
19:20.50 | axscode | ok....... 379 ... thats morethan 200.. thats nice.. |
19:21.10 | fugitivo | spackle: where did you get that number? |
19:21.11 | spackle | axscode: the real answer is "it depends" |
19:21.16 | Trionnis | anyone here familiar with changing the voice festival uses? |
19:21.28 | fugitivo | Trionnis: www.cepstral.com |
19:21.33 | spackle | axscode: everybody wants a qualitative number and there isn't one |
19:21.33 | Trionnis | I have one of the voice packs from their site, but there's no clear info about it |
19:21.40 | Trionnis | I'm not using cepstral |
19:21.41 | Trionnis | :) |
19:21.47 | axscode | fugitivo:ok i dont know what really is the xlite codec... |
19:21.49 | Master-V | fugi: i am not able to forward call from 694194@fwd.pulver.com to local 3000, is there any working example sip.conf & extensions.conf ? |
19:21.57 | fugitivo | Trionnis: use it, it's good :) |
19:22.03 | Trionnis | it's also expensive |
19:22.04 | Trionnis | ;) |
19:22.14 | fugitivo | Trionnis: it's only $30 |
19:22.22 | Trionnis | not for commercial multichannel |
19:22.27 | fugitivo | oops :) |
19:22.30 | axscode | fugitivo: but for example its using the default xlite codec. with 2.2ghz + 512mb of memory.. how many calls can it drop simultanously.. |
19:22.31 | Trionnis | ;) |
19:22.46 | Master-V | fugi: =( |
19:22.51 | spackle | 379 |
19:22.59 | fugitivo | axscode: it's hard to say a number |
19:23.07 | spackle | axscode: the real answer is "it depends" |
19:23.11 | fugitivo | axscode: check the wiki for more info about that |
19:23.11 | Trionnis | I've got cmu_us_slt_arctic |
19:23.24 | Trionnis | just no clear documentation on how to get asterisk to use it :-/ |
19:23.34 | Trionnis | google's not of much help either :( |
19:23.34 | fugitivo | Master-V: ok |
19:23.39 | spackle | axscode: if you are running gentoo +3 |
19:24.02 | Trionnis | axscode: it will handle 12,341.3 |
19:24.19 | Trionnis | the .3 is kinda choppy tho |
19:24.25 | spackle | Trionnis: 379 +3 for Gentoo |
19:24.29 | Trionnis | I know that |
19:24.32 | Trionnis | I'm being a smartass |
19:24.34 | Trionnis | ;) |
19:24.44 | spackle | ditto. |
19:24.56 | Trionnis | he's been told twice that there's no definete number, and doesn't seem to get it ;) |
19:24.58 | Master-V | fugi: thanks alot anyway, i probably need to find out more info on that :) |
19:25.05 | axscode | whats gentoo? |
19:25.10 | Trionnis | *ahem* |
19:25.16 | Trionnis | ... |
19:25.17 | spackle | oh dear. |
19:25.19 | Trionnis | yup |
19:25.21 | fugitivo | well |
19:25.25 | axscode | im planning to use DEBIAN.. for this.. |
19:25.36 | fugitivo | axscode: it's the distro |
19:25.38 | axscode | though i tried running asterisk on FreeBSD and OpenBSD. |
19:25.48 | Trionnis | why not FEDORA or SUSE |
19:25.53 | Trionnis | maybe MEPIS |
19:25.59 | Trionnis | *chuckles* |
19:26.06 | axscode | what linux distro is the most compatible for asterisk.. |
19:26.12 | spackle | why sop there? Knoppix |
19:26.16 | Trionnis | ack! |
19:26.21 | Trionnis | hahaha |
19:26.28 | Katty | hmm? |
19:26.29 | Katty | oh |
19:26.29 | Trionnis | you spelled it wrong! |
19:26.32 | Katty | silly hilight |
19:26.33 | Trionnis | it's KNOPPIX |
19:26.35 | Trionnis | ;) |
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19:27.02 | Netgeeks | all the linux dists have thier own personality. I don't think one is any more suited to asterisk than another |
19:27.13 | fugitivo | i agree |
19:27.45 | axscode | ok lets do this either.. what linux distro is more secure and lots of hardware support.. |
19:27.52 | Trionnis | ... |
19:27.59 | spackle | KNOPPIX |
19:28.03 | Trionnis | lol |
19:28.12 | Netgeeks | um, well you used the word secure, so the answer to your question is none |
19:28.20 | Nivex | axscode: You must search for the answer within. |
19:28.22 | Nivex | :) |
19:28.22 | spackle | OpenBSD |
19:28.33 | Trionnis | no! he should use windows 2003!! |
19:28.34 | fugitivo | axscode: just use the one it's more comfortable for you |
19:28.35 | axscode | hehe yupz.. OpenBSD i like |
19:28.35 | axscode | lolz |
19:28.37 | Trionnis | *hides* |
19:28.47 | Netgeeks | I personally use (yeah shoot me) Fedora Core (version 4 now) |
19:28.54 | Trionnis | ew |
19:28.57 | fugitivo | axscode: openbsd is great, but no zaptel support :( |
19:28.59 | axscode | lol |
19:29.11 | axscode | yupz fugitivo... no zaptel.. no conference.. |
19:29.12 | axscode | lolz |
19:29.13 | afrosheen | centos seems to be great so far |
19:29.18 | lathos42 | Just got done with a very positive meeting with our company president about * |
19:29.28 | Trionnis | centos is ok, if not a bit heavy |
19:29.31 | spackle | I use Fedora 3 and Redhat 9. Nothing too progressive. |
19:29.39 | axscode | i just hated RH and FEdora a lot..... though slack and debian maybe!? |
19:29.52 | fugitivo | spackle: redhat 9? |
19:30.02 | spackle | lathos42: well? Do you get to pull the trigger? |
19:30.04 | fugitivo | spackle: that's the worst redhat i ever tried |
19:30.07 | afrosheen | I don't like redhat OR fedora but I've enjoyed centos over the last few months |
19:30.09 | Netgeeks | I hate * |
19:30.14 | fugitivo | no, wait, redhat 8 was the worst |
19:30.20 | Netgeeks | ;( |
19:30.43 | afrosheen | lathos42: how big of a system do you want to create |
19:30.50 | spackle | fugitivo, it's whatever you get used to. I'm becoming more debian, and I hope to move up to slackware ;-) |
19:30.51 | lathos42 | spackle: Well, we're definitely getting rid of the of our old phonesystem |
19:31.03 | lathos42 | afrosheen: We've got about 70 phones, single PRI |
19:31.16 | fugitivo | spackle: i started with slack in 1996, moved to redhat, fedora, now i'm a gentoo guy |
19:31.19 | spackle | lathos42, that's about our size. |
19:31.20 | afrosheen | lathos42: are you keeping the old phones or getting sip phones |
19:31.26 | fugitivo | spackle: oh, i forgot debian |
19:31.51 | spackle | fugitivo: does your car have big spoilers on it? |
19:31.56 | lathos42 | afrosheen: Well, our old phones are Avaya Merlin MLX phones, so we have to replace our phones.. 95% certain we're going with the Polycom IP 501 |
19:31.57 | spackle | ;-) |
19:32.05 | fugitivo | spackle: lol, that webpage is funny |
19:32.48 | spackle | fugitivo: is there a gentoo-based distro that doesn't cause physical pain to install? |
19:33.07 | afrosheen | herointoo |
19:33.12 | Trionnis | haha |
19:33.15 | fugitivo | spackle: gentoo is easy to install |
19:33.22 | fugitivo | spackle: just follow the steps |
19:33.32 | afrosheen | lathos42: you'll love them, polycoms are champions |
19:33.32 | spackle | lather rinse repeat |
19:33.41 | spackle | agreed, polycoms rock. |
19:33.55 | afrosheen | if only I could get them to play .wav ring tones, oh well |
19:34.11 | spackle | lathos42, I'm still testing Asterisk, not ready to throw out the Nortel MICS yet. |
19:34.26 | zippp | I wan't my phone to do a backflip when it rings |
19:34.44 | Trionnis | that would be interesting |
19:34.45 | afrosheen | spackle: what hardware will your server be using |
19:34.48 | Trionnis | and probably doable |
19:34.58 | Trionnis | relay, spring, solenoid |
19:35.00 | Trionnis | hm |
19:35.06 | Trionnis | *rushes to patent office* |
19:35.24 | zippp | probably already 50 patents for it |
19:35.32 | Trionnis | yeah, you're prolly right |
19:35.41 | zippp | rather, today people are patenting the spring, so you can't do it |
19:35.44 | Trionnis | wouldn't matter tho |
19:35.48 | Trionnis | they'd still issue it |
19:35.50 | Trionnis | heh |
19:35.59 | spackle | afrosheen: right now I have a compaq dl380 dual 1.14 with 1GB. I'll probably have two similar machines before it goes live. Since it doesn't cost $100000 I want tome redundancy. |
19:36.07 | spackle | some redundancy |
19:36.25 | pawalls | Hey.. is Kevin "kpfleming@digium.com" ? And also is Mark "markster@digium.com" ? |
19:36.48 | Trionnis | spammer!!! hang him! |
19:37.00 | pawalls | ? |
19:37.05 | pawalls | I need to know for a disclaimer question. |
19:37.05 | Trionnis | I dunno, just bein' a clown |
19:37.10 | Trionnis | :) |
19:37.13 | spackle | just back away from the e-mail addresses son! |
19:37.27 | spackle | uh huh. |
19:37.29 | afrosheen | spackle: that should be ok..sometimes people build off-the-shelf servers and they think asterisk sucks because the hardware isn't suitable |
19:37.33 | Trionnis | ok, so... back to quasi-seriousness |
19:37.40 | Trionnis | festival, new voice |
19:37.42 | Trionnis | anyone? |
19:37.45 | Trionnis | :) |
19:38.05 | spackle | afrosheen: It's pretty solid. I'm having a few issues with the digium cards, but that seems to be par for the course. |
19:38.11 | Trionnis | I'll gladly RTFM if someone can point me *to* a manual to read |
19:38.20 | fugitivo | ~docs |
19:38.22 | jbot | i heard docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
19:38.22 | afrosheen | spackle: yeah unfortuately digium hasn't made a good driver yet |
19:38.24 | Trionnis | ... |
19:38.26 | pawalls | Trionnis, You talking about the mbrola voices? |
19:38.29 | Trionnis | no |
19:38.49 | Trionnis | lemme find the link |
19:38.52 | spackle | Trionnis: have you tried Cepstral? much nicer. |
19:38.56 | Trionnis | ... |
19:39.07 | afrosheen | cepstral is cool |
19:39.09 | Trionnis | I'm not using cepstral on this system |
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19:39.27 | Trionnis | can't afford the licenses that would be needed |
19:40.46 | Trionnis | here it is |
19:40.47 | Trionnis | http://www.festvox.org/cmu_arctic/dbs_slt.html |
19:40.50 | Ariel_ | argh ok in asterisk and linux how do we or were do we edit the sending server name in sendmail? |
19:41.18 | zippp | Ariel_, for vm? |
19:41.33 | zippp | voicemail.conf\ |
19:41.36 | Ariel_ | zippp, no for actually faxes that are emailed |
19:41.45 | fugitivo | Ariel_: /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf ? |
19:42.09 | zippp | m4 or have your brain implode |
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19:43.00 | Katty | if you had entire evening to yourself...what would you do? |
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19:43.25 | fugitivo | chat in #asterisk about trains and pigs |
19:43.35 | Trionnis | you don't wanna know |
19:43.36 | spackle | lol |
19:43.46 | Ariel_ | fugitivo, it's actually in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf |
19:43.48 | afrosheen | I like trains |
19:43.53 | Ariel_ | my brain is not working. |
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19:43.57 | Trionnis | I'm telling you... you don't want to know... |
19:44.01 | fugitivo | Ariel_: well, depends the distribution |
19:44.02 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i have nothing to do tonight. what should i do? |
19:44.04 | spackle | Trionnis could tell you but he'd have to kill you. |
19:44.07 | Ariel_ | fugitivo, thanks |
19:44.10 | Trionnis | ha |
19:44.11 | Trionnis | :) |
19:44.12 | fugitivo | np |
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19:44.36 | Trionnis | let's just say it involves rubber gloves, a tube of KY, and a chicken |
19:44.39 | spackle | Katty: won't you be on the phone to Dell? |
19:44.41 | [hC] | So what would everyone recommend for a codec that is low bandwidth and decent voice quality, sounds okay with MoH and can survive latency spikes decently? right now im using g729 and it works pretty well but im looking to maybe gain some audio quality. im thinking g726 maybe |
19:44.46 | Katty | spackle: no |
19:45.04 | Katty | spackle: and don't talk to me about dell. i've had all the dell i can handle for one day. |
19:45.10 | spackle | hC: and afforable? |
19:45.14 | Trionnis | dell is the anti-christ |
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19:45.45 | afrosheen | hc: 729 is probably the best quality for the bandwidth |
19:45.49 | roche | ~FXS |
19:45.53 | jbot | somebody said fxs was foreign exchange system - or the type of port you need to connect a analog device (phone, fax machine) to a pbx |
19:45.55 | [hC] | spackle: i dont mind paying for licenses if its worth it |
19:46.00 | spackle | Dell, isn't the anti-christ, but it is where he will get his computers. |
19:46.06 | Trionnis | lol |
19:46.08 | Trionnis | touche' |
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19:46.32 | spackle | hC: g729 or speex or maybe gsm. |
19:46.36 | [hC] | afrosheen: i dont mind sacrificing a little bandwidth if it means substantial audio quality improvement |
19:46.58 | afrosheen | hc: you probably need to tweak your codec then, g729 is nearly perfect AFAIK |
19:47.01 | [hC] | the only problem with g729 i have is that audio quality sounds fairly tinny |
19:47.15 | spackle | It is easiest to stick with g711 |
19:47.21 | afrosheen | hc: also what kind of phones are you using |
19:47.50 | [hC] | I'm using cisco 7960's but i do ulaw from them to *. That * box links with another, and im trying to decide on the codec to use between the two * boxes |
19:47.55 | [hC] | Right now its 729 |
19:48.15 | [hC] | but like i said, i sometimes hear complaints about it sounding a little too shallow, for audio quality |
19:48.20 | spackle | hmmm, gsm. |
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19:48.34 | afrosheen | gsm..nooooo |
19:48.40 | spackle | heh. |
19:48.49 | [hC] | so i was debating wether or not to try something else that can be relative easy on bandwidth, and be able to sustain the occasional latency spike like 729 can |
19:48.51 | afrosheen | get more bandwidth and use ulaw, done. |
19:48.58 | [hC] | not an option :) |
19:49.05 | [hC] | Customer sites usually have DSL |
19:49.08 | afrosheen | ouch |
19:49.20 | afrosheen | so they have no upstream to begin with |
19:49.27 | [hC] | usually 768k |
19:49.31 | [hC] | dedicated to voip |
19:49.34 | afrosheen | which is nearly nothing |
19:49.38 | [hC] | i insist they get a dedicated line for voice traffic |
19:49.42 | spackle | I'd say you are stuck with g729 |
19:49.46 | afrosheen | me too |
19:49.58 | [hC] | nod.. |
19:50.04 | afrosheen | g729 handles trunking very gracefully so it saves alot more bandwidth overall than other codecs |
19:50.15 | [hC] | i think on that line i have calculated using g729 can facilitate about 9 sustained calls |
19:50.16 | spackle | hC: you might want to check out www.netequalizer.com |
19:50.31 | generalhan | anyone in here using a Cisco 7960 phone with asterisk ???????????/ |
19:50.34 | spackle | hC: not affiliated, just a customer. |
19:50.50 | [hC] | spackle: what's that? If its some sort of link aggregator, ive already got a bsd firewall that will do that |
19:51.00 | [hC] | and QoS |
19:51.31 | brad_mssw | hmm, I've got a SIP phone (UTStarcom F1000) which works great for blind transfers, but if I set it to attended transfers, it connects to the third party, lets you talk, then when you try to complete the transfer, it tries to establish yet another connection to the third party to transfer to, so the caller ends up getting transferred to voicemail since the caller is already on the line |
19:51.32 | afrosheen | generalhan: yes, and be gentle to your ? key. |
19:51.42 | spackle | then nevermind. |
19:52.00 | brad_mssw | rather, the thrid party is already on the line ... shouldn't it just complete the transfer ? |
19:52.16 | generalhan | afrosheen: sorry, im losing my mind trying to configure this stuff ! lol |
19:52.21 | [hC] | Since we have a line dedicated to voice, and it can sustain 9 calls, i usually limit it so that the box can only place 9 outbound calls at a time |
19:52.22 | generalhan | can you help me out a bit |
19:52.33 | afrosheen | generalhan: have you checked the wiki, because personally I haven't used any ciscos |
19:52.44 | [hC] | if they want more, i buy another dsl line, and tell the router to fail over to the second dsl line after 9 calls |
19:52.52 | generalhan | yea i have, and im running into a problem at my tftp server i think |
19:52.56 | afrosheen | 9 calls on dsl is incredible |
19:53.00 | generalhan | and there isnt much troubleshooting info ther |
19:53.12 | fugitivo | [hC]: just use gsm |
19:53.25 | [hC] | afrosheen: well with g729 and 768k up, the math works out to about 12 calls. i guessed 9 to keep it safe. |
19:53.39 | spackle | hC: BSD firewall with QoS must do the trick. |
19:53.48 | *** part/#asterisk syzygyBSD (n=chatzill@66.226.228.204.cpe.speedyquick.net) |
19:53.54 | [hC] | spackle: Yep. PF and ALTq are my friends. |
19:54.05 | fugitivo | pf is god |
19:54.15 | fugitivo | i want pf in linux |
19:54.54 | [hC] | hjmm. cisco says that average call kbps for 729 is 31 |
19:55.00 | [hC] | 768/31 is 24 |
19:55.10 | [hC] | so 9 is a lowball guess, then. |
19:55.11 | [hC] | :) |
19:56.08 | keef | anyone got any good jitter monitoring tools? |
19:56.20 | Trionnis | yeah, but you have to actually set your cap a bit low to avoid hitting limiting in the modem itself |
19:56.29 | Trionnis | 10 wouldn't be out of line |
19:57.02 | clyrrad | anybody know how to play 2 sound files together in a queue using periodic-announce? |
19:57.22 | clyrrad | something like periodic-announce =msg1|msg2 |
19:57.25 | [hC] | actually. 31kbps is bidirectional. so i should be able to divide that in half to do the math on the upstream |
19:57.42 | Trionnis | erm |
19:57.48 | Trionnis | not really :) |
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19:58.12 | Trionnis | especially when you're dealing with 20:1 or higher contention ratios |
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19:58.31 | lathos42 | afrosheen: Have you had any problem with your Polycoms losing their network? |
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20:02.28 | puowvip | PONG |
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20:04.07 | spackle | So THAT'S what the red button does |
20:04.55 | used | what configuration front-ends are people using? I've resorted to file editing and manual SQL updates thus far, but it's getting rediculous. |
20:05.07 | fugitivo | used: you don't need one |
20:05.21 | used | fugitivo: ? |
20:05.28 | fugitivo | file editing is ok |
20:05.58 | used | i'd like to be able to delegate some of this stuff to someone who can use a web or GUI interface. I'd rather not do all the work. |
20:06.13 | Trionnis | you could always use Asterisk@Home |
20:06.13 | fugitivo | ok |
20:06.16 | Trionnis | *ducks* |
20:06.21 | fugitivo | used: check AMP |
20:06.22 | used | hehe |
20:06.31 | *** join/#asterisk Tabo (n=acura0@s142-179-67-118.bc.hsia.telus.net) |
20:06.39 | Tabo | hey guys, I need help |
20:06.44 | Tabo | for Asterisk @home |
20:06.48 | Trionnis | doh |
20:06.48 | Tabo | I'm willing to pay |
20:06.48 | Tabo | =) |
20:06.49 | fugitivo | lol |
20:07.00 | Tabo | msg me |
20:07.01 | fugitivo | Tabo: how much? |
20:07.06 | Tabo | i'm at work |
20:07.08 | Trionnis | $8 and a candy bar? |
20:07.10 | Trionnis | :D |
20:07.14 | fugitivo | Tabo: i want a blonde |
20:07.22 | used | fugitivo: AMP has some crazy assumptions in my opinion. I'd rather not have to deal with the user/permissions issues or run a different instance of apache. |
20:07.25 | Trionnis | I prefer redheads |
20:07.31 | goatmilk | file[lap1op]: lo |
20:07.35 | Trionnis | hell, gimme one of each |
20:07.40 | fugitivo | used: then file editing is ok :) |
20:08.02 | Trionnis | ~agi |
20:08.03 | jbot | i guess agi is the Asterisk Gateway Interface... similar to CGI for web applications AGI lets you script call control and access databases using your favorite language. AGI wrappers are available for Python (pyst), Perl (astperl?) and other languages |
20:08.10 | Trionnis | whoops |
20:08.13 | Trionnis | ~phpagi |
20:08.25 | Trionnis | hm |
20:08.37 | Tabo | so anyone have AASstra voip phone? |
20:08.55 | Tabo | the problem I have is connecting it to my asterix bos |
20:08.56 | Tabo | box |
20:08.57 | spackle | Tabo: was that a freudian slip? |
20:09.31 | Trionnis | jbot, phpagi is http://phpagi.sourceforge.net/ |
20:09.33 | jbot | okay, Trionnis |
20:10.15 | spackle | Tabo: what isn't the Aastra doing? |
20:10.15 | Connor- | Hey guys, question what advantage/dis-advantage is there to storing voicemail in a SQL DB? |
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20:10.46 | spackle | Connor: It is a bad idea, IMO |
20:11.09 | Tabo | ok |
20:11.17 | Tabo | the stupid phone keeps say |
20:11.19 | Tabo | "no service" |
20:11.27 | Tabo | thou it has a ip of 192.168.0.156 |
20:11.52 | fugitivo | Tabo: do you see the registration in the asterisk console? |
20:11.53 | ircleuser | hi |
20:11.56 | spackle | Tabo, is it running SIP? Have you configured it's username and password etc? |
20:11.56 | Tabo | I left the default settings on the phone (I never modified the firmware or manually edit the sip settings) |
20:11.59 | Tabo | nope |
20:12.04 | Trionnis | have you checked the sip debugs, or "sip show peers" to see if it's registering |
20:12.08 | Tabo | yes |
20:12.09 | Tabo | i did that |
20:12.12 | Tabo | doesn't show it |
20:12.22 | Tabo | i modified the sip.conf according to the manufacturers specs |
20:12.22 | Tabo | <PROTECTED> |
20:12.24 | fugitivo | you don't see anything on asterisk console? |
20:12.29 | Trionnis | then check the debugs, and double check the config |
20:12.40 | spackle | Tabo: sounds like you haven't configured the phone yet. |
20:12.51 | Trionnis | debugs should at least point you in the right direction |
20:13.10 | Tabo | do you have to configure it to work? |
20:13.14 | Tabo | cuz I heard |
20:13.21 | Tabo | you have to setup your asterisk as DHCP |
20:13.27 | Tabo | than have voip phones or atas under it |
20:13.33 | Tabo | i thought the router setups the dhcp? |
20:13.40 | fugitivo | Tabo: read my question, do you see anything on the CLI? |
20:13.50 | Tabo | nope |
20:13.53 | Tabo | its missing info.. |
20:13.57 | Tabo | not complete |
20:14.02 | fugitivo | Tabo: then setup the phone to connect to your asterisk box |
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20:14.18 | Tabo | how is that done? =) |
20:14.24 | spackle | Tabo: does it have a web interface or read files off a server? |
20:14.30 | fugitivo | Tabo: reading the phone manual |
20:14.50 | afrosheen | Connor: size, flexibility? |
20:15.17 | afrosheen | I think he got it right when he said aasstra |
20:15.37 | spackle | afrosheen: what about the pnealty of conversion putting it in and pulling it out of the DB? |
20:15.50 | Tabo | I did |
20:15.53 | Tabo | the phone manual sucks |
20:15.57 | Tabo | it only has two pages on asterisk |
20:16.00 | fugitivo | db is not a good idea... |
20:16.01 | Tabo | and I followed it exactly.. |
20:16.41 | spackle | Tabo: which model? |
20:17.01 | ender | so whats the big gotchas if any from the 1.2.0-beta1 ? |
20:17.20 | ender | We're looking to roll out asterisk in the next 2 months, and I would rather test on the 1.2 platform than the 1.0 platform... |
20:17.35 | fugitivo | i'll love xml configs for asterisk |
20:17.35 | DrWho17 | lack of support |
20:17.44 | *** join/#asterisk drmc_ (i=drmc@64.95.190.37) |
20:17.50 | spackle | ender: "better the devil you know"? |
20:17.52 | Tabo | 480i |
20:17.55 | Tabo | I plan to buy ten of these |
20:18.00 | netsurfer | completely OT this, just a shot in the dark here.. anyone have experience of X-cart shopping cart sw? |
20:18.04 | Tabo | so gusy |
20:18.06 | Tabo | here is my script |
20:18.15 | Tabo | sip.conf |
20:18.15 | Tabo | [phone1] |
20:18.15 | Tabo | type=friend |
20:18.15 | Tabo | host=dynamic |
20:18.15 | Tabo | defaultip=192.168.1.156 |
20:18.15 | Tabo | secret=1234 |
20:18.17 | Tabo | dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
20:18.19 | Tabo | mailbox=1000 |
20:18.21 | Tabo | context=sip |
20:18.23 | Tabo | callerid="Phone 1" <200> |
20:18.24 | DrWho17 | only OsCommerce |
20:18.25 | Tabo | extensions.conf |
20:18.25 | netsurfer | ~pastebin |
20:18.27 | jbot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
20:18.27 | Tabo | exten => 200,1,Dial(SIP/phone1,20) |
20:18.29 | Tabo | ie.. extension 200 |
20:18.32 | DrWho17 | Tabo: don't post flood |
20:18.37 | Tabo | and ip of phone is 192.168.1.156 |
20:18.40 | Tabo | ok |
20:19.07 | spackle | Tabo: but you have to tell the phone how to find the asterisk server. |
20:19.15 | Tabo | how do I do that? |
20:19.40 | PiruchoOSX | hi i am pretty much new with the asteriskpbx and i am trying to run it on osx or fedora anyone have done this before? |
20:19.43 | Tabo | piruchosx : are you new to linux? |
20:19.48 | Tabo | I used federo before its the best |
20:19.54 | PiruchoOSX | yes |
20:19.55 | Tabo | but for asterisk, u're best to download asterisk@home |
20:20.01 | Tabo | it comes with CENTOS and very easy to us |
20:20.02 | PiruchoOSX | i have fedora |
20:20.11 | Tabo | fedora core 4 rocks |
20:20.11 | PiruchoOSX | and i make install |
20:20.26 | PiruchoOSX | but when i try to run it |
20:20.32 | Tabo | with fedora, I had great difficulty compiling the zaptel drivers into the kernel |
20:20.34 | Tabo | for my digium |
20:20.42 | Tabo | where as asterisk@home make it easy to do |
20:20.45 | jarrod | anyone had an issue getting asterisk to send mgcp dlcx (hangup) to the endpoint when it detects a hangup on the remote end? |
20:20.50 | PiruchoOSX | it does not work |
20:20.50 | spackle | Tabo: do you have the phone admin guide or the quickstart guide? |
20:20.54 | Tabo | yes |
20:20.55 | pauldy | Tabo, one thing to note is that newer versions of AAH do not work with processors lower than a i686 |
20:20.56 | Tabo | i have the .pdf |
20:20.59 | Tabo | but really |
20:21.01 | Tabo | its useless |
20:21.30 | PiruchoOSX | i have fedora 4 |
20:21.54 | *** join/#asterisk pardove (n=pardove@195.146.47.215) |
20:22.16 | Tabo | spackle |
20:22.17 | Tabo | http://www.aastra.com/downloads/480i%20SIP%20Gen%20Admin%20Guide-E.pdf |
20:22.27 | Tabo | pages 24 to 25 |
20:22.34 | spackle | have you tried pointing your browser at the phone's IP address? |
20:22.57 | spackle | the user name is "admin" and the password is 222222 |
20:23.00 | PiruchoOSX | and i am running asterisk 1.0.9 |
20:23.30 | *** join/#asterisk usr (n=usr@adsl-84-226-123-239.adslplus.ch) |
20:24.10 | pardove | what does this mean? "NOTICE[11235]: Disconnecting call 'SIP/2101-a4a0' for lack of RTP activity in 2491 seconds" |
20:24.12 | ender | spackle: yeah, basically why test twice (: |
20:24.35 | Tabo | yp |
20:24.37 | Tabo | yup |
20:24.40 | Tabo | everything works |
20:24.52 | Tabo | but I left the setting on the phone default |
20:24.59 | Weezey | anyone use NuFone with SIP? |
20:25.23 | spackle | Tabo: did you go into the sip settings and point it at your Asterisk server and give it username and password? |
20:25.28 | drmc_ | who would i set up a context where incoming calls to the asterisk box with number _NXXXXXX*${callerEXTEN}* i need to set ${CALLERID} with value between the *'s after the extension ( or before i can format the exten to send *${callerEXTEN}*_NXXXXXX ( the var ${callerEXTEN} is curently not set by asterisk its only there as a placeholder for the purpose of thie explanation) |
20:25.34 | drmc_ | who = how |
20:25.46 | pardove | HELP! my * deadlocks after getting tons of these mesgs: "NOTICE[11235]: Disconnecting call 'SIP/2101-a4a0' for lack of RTP activity in 2491 seconds" |
20:25.50 | Tabo | spackel : nope |
20:26.20 | Katty | How amusing is this: My grades were high enough in school that harvard can't turn me down. |
20:26.27 | Tabo | its DHCP |
20:26.31 | Tabo | so isn't it automatic? |
20:26.34 | *** join/#asterisk newmember (n=newmembe@dsl-lkbn-66-18-211-34-cgy.nucleus.com) |
20:26.37 | *** join/#asterisk Cybertoy (n=Cybertoy@dsl254-123-241.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
20:26.39 | Katty | Yet, the little university in /this/ town keeps saying I need MORE references. |
20:26.43 | drmc_ | more concisely i need to rip off the numbers between the *'s and put that data in ${CALLERID} any hlp would be appreciated |
20:26.44 | spackle | Tabo: nope. |
20:26.50 | Tabo | ok |
20:26.53 | Katty | Maybe i should just tell them the bossman is on the schoolboard :) |
20:27.07 | Tabo | btw: my asterisk box ip is 192.168.0.160 |
20:27.09 | mutilator | or not bother with a piddly shit school? |
20:27.30 | fugitivo | Tabo: the dhcp is automatic, you need to setup the asterisk ip address, username and password in your phone |
20:27.40 | Tabo | spackle: do I need to modify the firmware or config files on the phone? |
20:27.47 | Tabo | Ahhh |
20:27.49 | newmember | I saw a shoreline voip system today, and when a call came in, it had a pop up on the computer desktop telling you the number calling in, Does * have a thing like that? |
20:28.09 | spackle | tabo: just the sip settings on the phone. Not the firmware. |
20:28.10 | pardove | HELP! my * deadlocks after getting tons of these mesgs: "NOTICE[11235]: Disconnecting call 'SIP/2101-a4a0' for lack of RTP activity in 2491 seconds" |
20:28.11 | Katty | mutilator: the university is in the same city i work. harvard is far, far away |
20:28.12 | fugitivo | newmember: yes |
20:28.22 | Tabo | spackle: is ata + analog phones easier to setup |
20:28.27 | Tabo | or voip phone only |
20:28.41 | fugitivo | Tabo: it's the same, ip of the asterisk server, username, password |
20:28.49 | Weezey | drmc_: _NXXXXXXNXXXXXX,1,Set(CALLERID(number)=${EXTEN:7}) |
20:28.51 | opus_ | pardove does it core? |
20:28.53 | spackle | tabo: they are virtually the same, once ou learn how, it will be easy. |
20:28.59 | mutilator | what;re you going to be doing at the college? |
20:29.02 | mutilator | er |
20:29.06 | opus_ | pardove what version of asterisk are you running and what OS/hardware are you using |
20:29.07 | mutilator | university.. |
20:29.07 | Tabo | username and password, how to you assign it and tell asterisk that information? |
20:29.11 | Tabo | in the sip.conf? |
20:29.15 | spackle | yup |
20:29.16 | drmc_ | weez you rule thanks! |
20:29.20 | Tabo | defaultip=192.168.1.156 |
20:29.20 | Tabo | secret=1234 |
20:29.28 | fugitivo | Tabo: you add the account in sip.conf, then setup your phone with that information |
20:29.41 | *** join/#asterisk sigmounte (n=sigmount@www.sighq.net) |
20:29.44 | Tabo | you guys are the best |
20:30.24 | spackle | tabo, once you have done it manually, you can figure out how to automatically assign it to new phones using dhcp and tftp. It takes time and reading to learn. |
20:30.24 | drmc_ | weez i need to remove the first _NXXXXXX from the enten string now =] |
20:30.33 | Tabo | what is tftp? |
20:30.38 | Weezey | drmc_: then you'd _NXXXXXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(SIP/yourproviderscontext/${EXTEN:0:7}) |
20:30.40 | drmc_ | so its not passed on tot the fone co |
20:30.43 | spackle | ~tftp |
20:30.44 | jbot | tftp is probably being worked on and nfsboot of ne2k cards should be there soon. |
20:30.52 | tuxinator_linuxM | Tabo: Trivial FTP |
20:30.57 | Tabo | I got digium 400TDM |
20:31.03 | Tabo | with 2 fsxs ports |
20:31.05 | spackle | or Trivial file transfer protocol |
20:31.10 | drmc_ | gotcha thanks =] |
20:31.46 | Weezey | Tabo: oo a 22. |
20:32.02 | pardove | opus_: i'm using CVS HEAD |
20:32.36 | opus_ | pardove what exactly does deadlock mean |
20:32.38 | Tabo | aastra documentation lacks the setup on the phone part |
20:32.41 | *** join/#asterisk Corndawg_ (i=whoisit@c-66-176-249-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
20:32.46 | Maveric | have any of you started using 1.2.0-beta1 yet? |
20:32.56 | pardove | opus_: but doesn't make any sense i also got the same with stable |
20:33.34 | pardove | opus_: deadlock means: * seems to run but no in/out calls could be made |
20:34.07 | spackle | Tabo: no, it's all there in the admin guide. |
20:34.17 | opus_ | pardove there is a instructions page on the voip-wiki about debugging asterisk, one about doing a backtrace on all threads. i think if you should run that and then send something to the asterisk dev mailing list, ask them if a bug report needs to be made. |
20:34.30 | spackle | Tabo: in fact, that they mention Asterisk is excellent. |
20:34.35 | opus_ | the debugging is done with something like, "gdb asterisk <pid of deadlock process>" |
20:34.36 | Tabo | spackel.. is my sip proxy ip the same as my asterisk box? |
20:34.38 | opus_ | and i think the command is |
20:34.43 | opus_ | info all threads |
20:34.44 | Tabo | ie. 192.168.0.160 |
20:34.45 | opus_ | bt all threads |
20:35.23 | spackle | Tabo: I think the important items are registrat=aster server |
20:35.48 | Tabo | type in "aster server" there? not the ip? |
20:35.49 | opus_ | also it helps if you mimize your configuration to the smallest possible configs, and pos t that as well. steps to recreate, etc, problem statement |
20:35.55 | pardove | opus_: thanks, i will try to do this |
20:36.06 | spackle | Tabo: the IP of your asterisk server |
20:36.21 | *** part/#asterisk naturalblue (n=Adam@195.26.12.229) |
20:36.32 | Tabo | ok 192.168.0.160 |
20:36.37 | Tabo | usually its 192.168.0.40 |
20:36.43 | jarrod | how come when the remote party hangs up.. asterisk does not send a hangup to the called party? |
20:36.43 | Tabo | how about the proxy server? |
20:36.45 | Tabo | same? |
20:36.57 | spackle | Tabo and sip line1 name and userid should be whatever you put in sip.conf. |
20:37.15 | spackle | Tabo, I don't think you will need proxy server, but it would be the same. |
20:37.55 | Tabo | ok |
20:38.05 | Tabo | I didn't specify the userid |
20:38.09 | Tabo | callerid="Phone 1" <200> |
20:38.18 | Tabo | is that "Phone 1" is my username? |
20:38.25 | spackle | yes. |
20:38.51 | Tabo | i get it |
20:39.09 | Tabo | so "Phone 1" will be display on the voip phone |
20:39.15 | bkw_ | yes |
20:39.18 | Tabo | ie " someones name" |
20:39.27 | pardove | when i start asterisk all of my zap channels get Ring Alarm, i'm using TE405P with 4xTA750 CB full fxo |
20:41.40 | *** join/#asterisk drbrown (n=chatzill@user-0cdvefr.cable.mindspring.com) |
20:42.00 | drbrown | Does anyone know how to detect if a phone is in use???? |
20:42.13 | Nugget | yes!!!! |
20:42.25 | drbrown | Nugget: how so??? |
20:42.37 | Ariel_ | HINT |
20:43.00 | *** join/#asterisk hadi57 (n=al_moghr@83.136.8.206) |
20:43.03 | Nugget | Why are we shouting??? |
20:43.12 | fugitivo | WHO? |
20:43.19 | Nugget | drbrown is shouting!!! |
20:43.21 | Ariel_ | Nugget, that is one of the commands to see |
20:43.25 | fugitivo | WHY |
20:43.32 | *** join/#asterisk Led_Zeppelin (n=none@cpe-24-210-78-5.columbus.res.rr.com) |
20:43.37 | drbrown | I don't mean to shout |
20:43.43 | Tabo | spackle.. strange my phone never worked |
20:43.49 | Hmmhesays | stairway to heaven! play stairway! |
20:43.51 | Tabo | but there is dial tone and now I see 10 calls have been made |
20:43.52 | Ariel_ | drbrown, I did not you. |
20:43.54 | Tabo | in my call logs |
20:43.55 | Tabo | lol |
20:43.57 | Katty | Hmmhesays: hi. |
20:43.58 | Led_Zeppelin | hello, I am tring to select a good vo/ip, anyone have a good choice? something very cheap... |
20:44.04 | drbrown | ok |
20:44.04 | Katty | Hmmhesays: did you hear the somewhat good news? |
20:44.04 | Led_Zeppelin | voip provider |
20:44.05 | Hmmhesays | Katty: hey |
20:44.12 | Hmmhesays | negatory |
20:44.17 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, very cheap or good |
20:44.20 | Tabo | LED: u're looking for the phone? |
20:44.25 | Katty | Hmmhesays: i can officially go to harvard if i want. and if i have a million bucks sitting around. |
20:44.30 | Hmmhesays | cool |
20:44.33 | Led_Zeppelin | Tabo: yes..for my apartment |
20:44.37 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: both |
20:44.38 | Tabo | grandstream is cheap |
20:44.40 | Tabo | but its ugly |
20:44.47 | Ariel_ | Sipura is cheap |
20:44.49 | Katty | Hmmhesays: think i can get a master is cookie baking? |
20:44.50 | Tabo | but my friend said its really good |
20:44.55 | Katty | Hmmhesays: s/master/masters/ |
20:44.56 | drbrown | I am attempting an auto answer intercom setup, is there a way to see if the hint is active from within the dial plan???? |
20:44.56 | Hmmhesays | Katty: I doubt it |
20:45.05 | Katty | Hmmhesays: silly university. |
20:45.07 | Hmmhesays | that grandstream is not just ugly... its fugly |
20:45.16 | spackle | Tabo: check sip.conf and phone settings over again. Then try using the proxy address on the phone set to the same IP as asterisk server. |
20:45.18 | drbrown | fbugly |
20:45.20 | Tabo | LED: do you plan to use voip phone or ata+ analog phone |
20:45.27 | Tabo | cuz analog phones have more selection |
20:45.27 | *** join/#asterisk Rowter (n=SilverDr@dsl-201-129-89-96.prod-infinitum.com.mx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
20:45.36 | *** join/#asterisk bmg505 (n=leon@rndf-146-16-63.telkomadsl.co.za) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
20:45.37 | Tabo | ok thanks spackle |
20:45.41 | Tabo | I'll hang out here mroe |
20:45.50 | *** join/#asterisk nitram (i=foo@superblob.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
20:45.56 | Tabo | since I'm work 7 daya a week |
20:46.13 | Ariel_ | drbrown, what type of phones are they? |
20:46.24 | Tabo | led: analog phoens are cheaper too |
20:46.32 | Maveric | have any of you started using 1.2.0-beta1 yet? |
20:46.33 | pfn | voip phones are nicer |
20:46.37 | drbrown | spa-841, and sayson 480i |
20:46.46 | *** join/#asterisk lilo (i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin) |
20:46.47 | Tabo | sayson is same as aastra right? |
20:46.48 | Hmmhesays | I got a 7940 I'll let go for 200 bucks |
20:46.49 | Tabo | i have that |
20:46.49 | *** join/#asterisk shmaltz (n=chatzill@69.28.255.210) |
20:46.53 | Tabo | its really nice |
20:46.57 | Led_Zeppelin | Tabo: just vo/ip I am trying to avoid getting a landline. |
20:46.57 | drbrown | I am able to use the auto answer just fine on all |
20:46.58 | Ariel_ | drbrown, don't know the 480i supports hint |
20:46.59 | Tabo | similar to nortel phones |
20:47.04 | Led_Zeppelin | I already have a cell, but my minutes are limited. |
20:47.06 | drbrown | yes sayson=astera |
20:47.07 | spackle | Tabo, how do you know- it's not working yet ;-) |
20:47.08 | pfn | I need a new screen for my 7960 |
20:47.13 | drbrown | asstra |
20:47.15 | drbrown | sorrry |
20:47.24 | Ariel_ | aastra |
20:47.29 | Hmmhesays | if you get an ata then you can plug a cordless phone in |
20:47.30 | Led_Zeppelin | so, is voyanage the way to go? |
20:47.31 | Tabo | spackel cuz when I call out doesn't work |
20:47.41 | Ariel_ | argh vonage |
20:47.45 | Led_Zeppelin | lol |
20:47.46 | Tabo | led: thats good u can probably save on a digium card |
20:47.50 | Hmmhesays | bonvoyanage? |
20:47.51 | drbrown | I just need to be able to send the call differently if a channel is open |
20:47.51 | Maveric | hmm |
20:47.57 | spackle | drbrown, how do you like 480i? |
20:48.04 | drbrown | better |
20:48.07 | Tabo | 480i has 4 lines |
20:48.08 | pfn | I think I'd rather use an ATA over an fxs, at least due to the echo stuff |
20:48.10 | Maveric | are any of you using version 1.2.0-beta1 yet? |
20:48.10 | Led_Zeppelin | Tabo: i don't really need a digium card do I? I am planning to run asterisk too... |
20:48.13 | drbrown | hated it when I first got it |
20:48.19 | drbrown | upto today as a matter of fact |
20:48.20 | Hmmhesays | wtf ATA is an fxs device |
20:48.22 | Tabo | well I bought one |
20:48.23 | Tabo | with 4 ports |
20:48.27 | spackle | drbrown have you compared to polycom? |
20:48.32 | Tabo | but using only 2 |
20:48.34 | pfn | I mean a direct fxs card in asterisk |
20:48.37 | Led_Zeppelin | Tabo: its really not needed though..its only for your codecs |
20:48.38 | Tabo | cuz voip may not be 100% reliable |
20:48.41 | drbrown | would recomend snom phones, and will never buy anything else for now |
20:48.49 | Ariel_ | polycom polycom are best....are best.... just my view |
20:48.50 | Tabo | so when the voip or internet is down, I still have two landlines to back up my business |
20:48.51 | Hmmhesays | its more reliable if you put your networking stuff on ups's |
20:48.51 | Led_Zeppelin | Tabo: you bought a card because of that? |
20:48.58 | pfn | snom phones are too expensive for what you get, imo |
20:48.58 | Tabo | yes |
20:49.05 | drbrown | I have never used polycom phones |
20:49.06 | pfn | I'd like to try a polycom phone |
20:49.10 | pfn | if I can get one for a good price |
20:49.18 | Hmmhesays | in my area when the power goes out, the cable does not, if you have your stuff on ups's |
20:49.19 | Tabo | one day for a business with no phone is lost revenue |
20:49.19 | Led_Zeppelin | Tabo: the card is for codecs right? not for having another option. |
20:49.21 | drbrown | I like snom real well |
20:49.28 | Tabo | its a PCI card |
20:49.28 | Ariel_ | pfn, the the IP-501 is around 175 |
20:49.44 | Led_Zeppelin | Tabo: yes...but how does that give you an option of POT? |
20:49.46 | Tabo | I think u can buy a cheap $20 x100 |
20:49.49 | Tabo | digium x100p |
20:49.51 | Tabo | or something |
20:49.52 | drbrown | I bought 2 spa-841's, and 1 480i, and really wished I would have bought 3 snom phones |
20:49.59 | Hmmhesays | app_amsterdam? |
20:50.05 | pfn | ariel that price sounds pretty good, I'd have to consider it |
20:50.07 | Tabo | drbrown: u don't like your 480i? I plan to buy ten of those |
20:50.08 | Led_Zeppelin | drbrown: looking at the 3com my self now |
20:50.23 | pfn | but I like the ip600 or whatever it is, better |
20:50.34 | drbrown | I heard 3com's support for * features are limited |
20:50.44 | Ariel_ | pfn, are you the one that is from Vietnum?? were you not on the channel a long time ago? |
20:50.47 | drbrown | you get the full deal w/ snom |
20:50.49 | lathos42 | We're most likely going to go with the IP-501 here.. although I do have a problem with its network suddenly deciding not to respond in the middle of the weekend while i'm gone |
20:50.51 | pfn | yeah, that's me |
20:51.00 | Ariel_ | pfn, long time no see/hear |
20:51.18 | pfn | always been here, just lurk for a long time, not much time for the phone biz, wife and work eat up all the time |
20:51.21 | afrosheen | lathos42: we've had a few phones we've RMA'ed, maybe 3 out of 55 |
20:51.26 | Led_Zeppelin | drbrown: hmm really? |
20:51.38 | lathos42 | afrosheen: Any of 'em have the problem I just described? |
20:51.41 | Ariel_ | pfn, she is here then with you now great. |
20:51.46 | Led_Zeppelin | drbrown: glad you are saying something alteast..google is no help |
20:51.46 | spackle | lathos42, is that with POE? or a separate power adapter that they drop off the network? |
20:51.50 | afrosheen | lathos42: nope but it sounds like an RMA candidate |
20:51.53 | drbrown | I was told from my distributor, that if I wanted a phone that has all the bells & wistles go snom |
20:52.04 | opus_ | lathos42 network not responding after the weekend could be caused by bad power or massive traffic flooding the phone |
20:52.07 | afrosheen | I hate the snom displays myself |
20:52.11 | Led_Zeppelin | so, voynage is bad, eh? for service. Anyone have a good recommendation? |
20:52.12 | pfn | ariel, yeah, it took some time |
20:52.15 | drbrown | digium uses snom |
20:52.21 | Ariel_ | snom are ok but there too light for our use. I had about 200 of them in my last location. |
20:52.21 | lathos42 | spackle: its with the power adapter right now, we're going PoE for our production rollout |
20:52.29 | drbrown | I heard packet8 is kick ass |
20:52.41 | afrosheen | lathos42: you realize the 501's require special power for POE right |
20:52.44 | Hmmhesays | vonage business service is top notch |
20:52.46 | Ariel_ | replacing all of them with polycom IP-501 10 times better phones |
20:52.48 | *** join/#asterisk |dennis| (n=dennis@200.32.215.82) |
20:52.53 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: for home though... |
20:53.04 | lathos42 | afrosheen: What do you mean by special power? |
20:53.09 | Ariel_ | special power it comes with it's cable and power supply. |
20:53.11 | Hmmhesays | for home they don't let you use your own ata, you're stuck with that linksys |
20:53.14 | opus_ | haha what do you mean by special power:) |
20:53.23 | afrosheen | lathos42: not the standard POE power, the 50 |
20:53.26 | afrosheen | woops |
20:53.26 | fugitivo | superman has special powers |
20:53.29 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: any suggestions? :-) |
20:53.35 | opus_ | you need a proprietary PoE injector |
20:53.38 | lathos42 | opus_: I wonder if its all of the traffic caused by our full backup we run on the weekend |
20:53.40 | spackle | ~special power |
20:53.41 | afrosheen | the 501's don't have POE chips built in like the 600's do so you need the injectors |
20:53.41 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: need something reliable, and CHEAP |
20:53.47 | Hmmhesays | heh |
20:53.48 | opus_ | PoE is the most messed up standard in the history of man |
20:53.58 | opus_ | "lets reverse the polarities .." |
20:53.59 | afrosheen | no wonder it hasn't taken off |
20:54.07 | Hmmhesays | vonage is pretty reliable and cheap, if you're ok using their linksys |
20:54.12 | *** join/#asterisk Beccara (n=Beccara@219.89.208.80) |
20:54.12 | spackle | opus_ how can you leave out SIP USB abluethooth and h.323? |
20:54.18 | brad_mssw | does a SIP transfer usually occur using the REFER statement? |
20:54.21 | Hmmhesays | otherwise there are a shi@t ton of providers out there |
20:54.25 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: i want to use asterisk too..to cut down on my costs of any hardware. |
20:54.39 | DannyF | anyone of you guys using a Cisco PIX 506E with IOS 7.0(1) ? |
20:54.42 | Hmmhesays | why would you use asterisk in a single phone setup? |
20:54.43 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: yea..been doing reserch on them, they all sound the same...no reviews out there |
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20:54.48 | opus_ | spackle they don't fry equipment. |
20:54.50 | Ariel_ | vonage and asterisk for single phones don't mix well |
20:55.01 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: not worth it? I guess I can use it for my answering machine. |
20:55.04 | lathos42 | err them |
20:55.05 | afrosheen | lathos42: it's well documented, hit up a polycom store and you'll see the injectors, hell they might be on ebay also |
20:55.05 | Hmmhesays | only in the business plus plan do they mix well |
20:55.07 | spackle | lathos42, I hope you aren't on a strict schedule for your conversion. There are a lot of surprises waiting for you. |
20:55.24 | Tabo | gusy |
20:55.29 | lathos42 | You guys mean the cables that run $35-40, right? |
20:55.32 | afrosheen | yep |
20:55.32 | Tabo | Packet8 doesn't allow you to use asterisk right |
20:55.32 | opus_ | the injectors are $30 |
20:55.32 | fugitivo | what's the technical explanation of why vonage doesn't work with asterisk? |
20:55.41 | opus_ | its cheaper to build them yourself |
20:55.42 | lathos42 | That you can get in either a standard or cisco configuration |
20:55.45 | lathos42 | correct? |
20:55.48 | Hmmhesays | they won't give you the registration information for the residential plan |
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20:55.59 | afrosheen | they're kinda polycom-specific due to the inline POE chip in the cable |
20:56.05 | Ariel_ | packet8 and vonage are about the same they require there ata |
20:56.06 | fugitivo | Hmmhesays: so, the login information is inside their atas? |
20:56.10 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: because $30 is a lot of money for me....I want something cheaper. |
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20:56.18 | Hmmhesays | deltathree |
20:56.25 | Tabo | packet8 is very good thou I have to admin |
20:56.26 | blitzmere | can someone tell me how i can getasterisk to accept client from behind a nat--asterisk not behind nat, softphone is |
20:56.26 | Hmmhesays | you'll see mixed reviews on them |
20:56.27 | opus_ | $30 * 50 is a lot of money for anybody to shell out half way through a project:) |
20:56.27 | Tabo | admit |
20:56.28 | kimosabe | can some one tell me how i can add some type of service that will allow me to make reports of the calls made via my box |
20:56.33 | r0m | good evening |
20:56.34 | lathos42 | I'm going to see if someone will throw them in with the phones instead of the power bricks |
20:56.46 | drbrown | is there anyway to change a variable after a call is over, that is upon hangup???? |
20:56.47 | Hmmhesays | deltathree is pretty cheap |
20:56.48 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, cheaper then get asterisk and add broadvoice to it. |
20:56.49 | afrosheen | blitzmere: just set nat=yes or nat=always in the sip.conf for that extension |
20:56.49 | opus_ | good luck lathos |
20:56.51 | Aschiz | Got SIP response 486 "Busy" back from 68.14.17.12 |
20:56.51 | lathos42 | if not, I already have them budgeted |
20:57.10 | blitzmere | ok |
20:57.13 | Aschiz | does anyone have the same problem with Asterisk-v1.0.9? |
20:57.15 | afrosheen | lathos42: the bricks will work if plugged into the switch on the far side, but getting them all plugged into something is fun |
20:57.22 | opus_ | plug the power adapters into UPC's :) |
20:57.27 | mutilator | Ariel_: it no spakeda teh lingedy |
20:57.27 | afrosheen | exactly |
20:57.28 | opus_ | thats what i did |
20:57.34 | Hmmhesays | where you located Led_Zeppelin |
20:57.40 | spackle | kimosabe: check the wiki, there is a web-based call detail reporter (CDR) works OK. Asterisk doesn't doa enough call logging for billing in the opinion of some people |
20:57.52 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: USA |
20:57.55 | Katty | Hmmhesays: if i call you, will you play me led zeppelin music? |
20:57.59 | Ariel_ | mutilator, ah |
20:58.01 | Hmmhesays | where in the usa |
20:58.01 | afrosheen | lathos42: actually, you can |
20:58.04 | Hmmhesays | sure katty |
20:58.04 | mutilator | what else would there be to log? |
20:58.14 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: good suggestion...you like BroadVoice? I was looking at that earlier today |
20:58.23 | Led_Zeppelin | Katty: what song? :-) |
20:58.31 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, there cheap |
20:58.33 | spackle | mutilator: multiple call legs for one. |
20:58.34 | afrosheen | lathos42: that's how we power one of our remote wireless APs |
20:58.37 | fugitivo | Led_Zeppelin: check Teliax too |
20:58.38 | Aschiz | I have a queue with about 15 people. And periodically Asterisk will automatically log everyone off. Has anyone encounted a similiar problem? |
20:58.41 | Ariel_ | they work 90% of the time |
20:58.42 | kimosabe | spackle www.wiki.com ? |
20:58.43 | mutilator | ? |
20:59.00 | Hmmhesays | app_queue is not very highly thought of around here |
20:59.01 | Katty | Led_Zeppelin: whatever. |
20:59.03 | spackle | ~wiki |
20:59.05 | afrosheen | Aschiz: how long is your queue time |
20:59.11 | lathos42 | afrosheen: I meant without the Polycom PoE cables :) |
20:59.11 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: is that what you use? you probally gave me the best advice in 15 mins over me googing all day! thx! |
20:59.19 | mutilator | spackle: meaning? |
20:59.19 | spackle | www.voip-info.org |
20:59.33 | afrosheen | lathos42: the power injector/network cable that comes with the phone works fine jacked into a standard switch on the far side |
20:59.41 | Aschiz | what do you mean by queue time? |
20:59.51 | afrosheen | Aschiz: queues time out don't they? |
20:59.52 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, I use them but don't due to there australia included in there plan |
21:00.01 | Aschiz | i had it at 15 |
21:00.09 | afrosheen | well there you go |
21:00.12 | lathos42 | afrosheen: Right, I meant that I knew that a PoE switch wouldnt work without the special cable |
21:00.15 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, there ok work but for biz I would use others |
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21:00.32 | spackle | mutilator: I'm not sure, some people have complained about it, but I'm not running my business with it. |
21:00.35 | afrosheen | lathos42: roger that...a POE switch isn't what you need with these phones :) |
21:00.35 | Aschiz | It will only log an agent off if the phone rings for 15 seconds without answering |
21:01.18 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: for home only... |
21:01.37 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, yes I use it for home only. |
21:01.51 | Katty | Led_Zeppelin: yes, but you're not in a conference call. |
21:01.54 | lathos42 | afrosheen: For my Network closet's sake I do :) |
21:01.55 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: okay, any other suggestions? |
21:02.03 | Led_Zeppelin | Katty: what? |
21:02.04 | Katty | Led_Zeppelin: if you have an eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks number, i'll ringring |
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21:02.11 | Hmmhesays | do you need to have your pants down to strum? |
21:02.23 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays:lol! |
21:02.29 | Led_Zeppelin | you are sick Hmmhesays :-) |
21:02.37 | Katty | that's why we like Hmmhesays |
21:02.43 | Led_Zeppelin | Katty: you mean IAX ? |
21:02.43 | Katty | that and his hair. |
21:02.47 | Katty | Led_Zeppelin: obviously |
21:02.56 | Hmmhesays | <chuckle> |
21:02.59 | Led_Zeppelin | Katty: sorry I am new to this vo/ip go easy |
21:03.03 | Katty | Led_Zeppelin: k |
21:03.08 | afrosheen | lathos42: I don't know how safe POE switches are with these phones, you'll probably need the injectors one way or another |
21:03.20 | Hmmhesays | Led_Zeppelin, if you're going to make a funky spelling then at least say VoIP |
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21:04.36 | Led_Zeppelin | Hmmhesays: sure |
21:04.56 | lathos42 | afrosheen: Well, I'm going to get a Dell PoE switch, and then use the Polycom PoE cables, part # 2200-11077-002 to plug in between the PoE switch and the phone so they properly get their power. I'm hoping I can get someone to throw the Polycom PoE cables in with the phones instead of the standard Power/Ethernet cable and power brick |
21:05.23 | Led_Zeppelin | so, I guess I can use BroadVoice->Aserisk -> router -> VoIP phone, eh |
21:05.24 | opus_ | lathos42 you might want to consider get IP600 all together |
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21:06.17 | afrosheen | yeah the ip600's are true POE phones..and if the cost is within ~$30 difference, it's all the better |
21:06.22 | drbrown | does anyone have any ideas on howto detect if someone is on a SIP phone, so as to disable auto-answer, this is for an intercom setup???? |
21:06.25 | Led_Zeppelin | is there a VoIP newbie channel,mailing list out there? |
21:06.34 | lathos42 | opus_: Well, even if I have to end up buying the cables separately, it's still $50 less than buying the IP600 |
21:06.37 | opus_ | Polycom 220011630001 |
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21:06.44 | opus_ | Polycom IP600 from froogle $241.67 |
21:06.50 | afrosheen | ouch |
21:07.06 | afrosheen | but they have 6 lines and true poe |
21:07.06 | puowvip | wonder if my tdm cards arrived today |
21:07.25 | methos | is there an admin page to set up provisioning on the RT31P2 similar to the pap2? |
21:07.33 | opus_ | lathos42 - yes but you have to consider time involved. its only cheaper if your time is worth less |
21:07.34 | Led_Zeppelin | good looking phone though |
21:07.36 | lathos42 | Someone mentioned yesterday that they got their Polycom reseller to just give them the PoE cables instead of the Power Bricks for the same price |
21:07.55 | jarrod | anyone using mgcp with asterisk? |
21:07.56 | ender | what is spandsp used for? |
21:08.05 | lathos42 | And in that case, the IP501 is $172 |
21:08.06 | Weezey | jarrod: yeah, works quite well |
21:08.08 | jarrod | ender: receiving faxes |
21:08.09 | Tabo | RT31P2 is a router/voip where as PAP2 ir voip only |
21:08.35 | methos | Tabo, yes, I know that, I just need to set it up so it provisions from my provisioning server properly. |
21:08.38 | ender | jarrod: ah, ok, not needed fo rme then. |
21:08.40 | jarrod | weezey: had a problem with the asterisk destroying the channel but the remote device not knowing it was hung up? |
21:08.50 | methos | But I don't see the same options as on the PAP2 for the voip provisioning. |
21:08.51 | opus_ | $172 + $50 |
21:08.55 | Weezey | methos: I got mine connecting to a PHP script, works sexily. |
21:09.04 | opus_ | $172 + $50 with no PoE switch |
21:09.12 | opus_ | or $241 with PoE switch |
21:09.14 | Weezey | jarrod: no, what kind of device? |
21:09.25 | Rowter | pcix works ok with tdm400 just if anyone want to know >) |
21:09.30 | methos | Weezey, so are all my pap2's, about 150 of them |
21:09.30 | jarrod | well its an integration device for a legacy phone system |
21:09.51 | ender | if I"m not connecting to a PRI, do I need libpri? |
21:09.59 | Weezey | methos: you buy from IM or TD? |
21:10.10 | jarrod | when i ring the channels via asterisk.. and then the remote party hangs up.. it deactivates the channel, but the phone system keeps the line in use |
21:10.13 | methos | I just plug the pap2 into my local system and it sets up all the ssl and such automagically |
21:10.25 | methos | indirectly they come through TD |
21:11.10 | methos | I had one of the RT31p2s set up before, but that was a long time ago, I forgot how to do it since then :p |
21:11.13 | Tabo | anyone know the cheapest place to buy sayson's 480i's |
21:11.18 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: what do you think about this, "https://www.sunrocket.com/sign_up/linkshare_entry.do?plan=y&partner=ls&siteID=ydmf4rFDNTw-1oEOl5eKdROaBZjNtMDRyA" ? |
21:11.22 | *** part/#asterisk Kai (n=jmwoodga@45.e6.d12c.cidr.airmail.net) |
21:11.30 | lathos42 | opus_: Where are you getting the extra $50 from? |
21:11.55 | drbrown | Tabo: don't buy one |
21:11.55 | Tabo | LED.. don't pay for one year |
21:12.03 | Tabo | pay for one month and try it out first |
21:12.09 | Weezey | jarrod: hmm, that's weird, I haven't seen that on mine. Mine's a crappy dlink job. |
21:12.12 | Tabo | drbrown: how come |
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21:12.16 | Tabo | I like it |
21:12.26 | Tabo | I wished they had nortel voip phones |
21:12.32 | Tabo | its very simlar to the nortel ones |
21:12.36 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, ok never heard of them. But they want a years service up front. |
21:12.40 | kimosabe | could some one give me the link for the asterisk call manager reporter for call detail and statistics |
21:12.58 | spackle | Tabo, Nortel will have a new IP phone in Q4 |
21:13.01 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: Tabo: why is that? |
21:13.02 | opus_ | lathos42 made it up. $30 for adapter. $20 when you find out it was the wrong one (because there are like 5 different models) :) |
21:13.03 | drbrown | The phone was incomplete until about 2 weeks ago, and sayson's support for the phone is crappy at best |
21:13.14 | spackle | Tabo, they say it will speak SIP in Q1 96 |
21:13.24 | opus_ | 1996? |
21:13.34 | Supaplex | lol |
21:13.35 | spackle | opus_ yep. |
21:13.48 | Supaplex | sooo we wait until 1996. *laf* |
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21:13.50 | lathos42 | opus_: Well, I would leave that up to my vendor to make sure I received the proper one.. and it would be their problem if it wasnt :) |
21:13.56 | spackle | It will be in the $300 ballpark and have a gigabit ethernet port |
21:13.56 | Ariel_ | there are people out there that just want your money |
21:14.03 | drbrown | sayson makes most of Nortel's phones |
21:14.04 | puowvip | 1996 will come around on the spacetime guitar just when exactly? |
21:14.07 | Borgon | astwind vs asteriskwin32 who takes the gold medal? |
21:14.19 | spackle | er. 2006, sorry. |
21:14.26 | Ariel_ | Borgon, none |
21:14.27 | spackle | gettin' real old. |
21:14.30 | methos | ah, administration port. |
21:14.42 | Borgon | Ariel_: i know i know but its not for a real production enviornment |
21:14.53 | Supaplex | someone's stuck in the last decade :-x |
21:15.14 | Ariel_ | Borgon, ok so you want someone to say this one sucks worst then the other one? |
21:15.28 | kimosabe | does any one run somthing for call detial |
21:15.30 | spackle | I'm really stuck in the 80's. Where did I put my Apple }{e? |
21:15.45 | Borgon | Ariel_: yeah basically |
21:15.48 | afrosheen | kimosabe: like cdr? |
21:16.07 | Borgon | Ariel_: am not going to be doing anything fancy.. just make outgoing calls |
21:16.09 | Ariel_ | Borgon, I have now don't quote me on it. used for a demo AsteriskWin32 |
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21:16.56 | kimosabe | afrosheen i guess i want to know what calls are made via my server |
21:17.03 | Borgon | hehe i tried asteriskwin32 ... iax2 show registry showed it was registered etc but for some reason my softphone couldnt connect to 127.0.0.1 or localhost |
21:17.14 | Ariel_ | kimosabe, there is a nice php stat setup for asterisk |
21:17.20 | Borgon | so am gonna try the other astwind to see |
21:17.40 | dlorusso | I just ran into a potential bug with 1.2beta1: I did a "cat /proc/zaptel/1" (using ztdummy) and get random garbage appended to the output. Has anyone else seen this sort of thing? |
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21:18.10 | Borgon | dlorusso how is that a bug? |
21:18.24 | kimosabe | arfiel where can i find details on this pp stat for asterisk |
21:18.25 | kimosabe | ? |
21:18.30 | Led_Zeppelin | do you guys think VoIP will drop their prices in the future, or have these prices been the same? |
21:18.36 | Supaplex | it's an undocumented feature, like any other bug. ;) |
21:18.55 | dlorusso | Borgon- It seems like zaptel may be following an invalid pointer |
21:19.05 | Borgon | Led_Zeppelin: competition drives down prices.. soon telephone companies will tap hard into voip |
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21:19.36 | Led_Zeppelin | Borgon: have the prices changed in the last few days, months, years? |
21:19.43 | Led_Zeppelin | or have the prices been the same? |
21:19.50 | distortio | Led: pricing in US is still greatly tied to traditional phone companies who control the last mile |
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21:20.08 | Borgon | Led_Zeppelin: am not sure but as the hardware becomes cheaper etc it will go down |
21:20.27 | distortio | pricing will come down when there are more "in network" voip users, similar to how cell phone companies do it |
21:20.48 | Led_Zeppelin | oh okay. |
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21:21.08 | distortio | voip international is a different story- its pricing has been falling for years, and is way cheaper than traditional tdm calls |
21:21.11 | Led_Zeppelin | I hope they do get cheaper...before I get out of college..I am in a need of getting a phone service, but its just too expensive! |
21:21.30 | distortio | vonage is too expensive? |
21:21.40 | Led_Zeppelin | distortio: i think so, its $30 a month... |
21:21.47 | distortio | you can get vonage for the same price as a local line with dialtone :) |
21:21.54 | distortio | 14.95 for the basic plan |
21:21.55 | Led_Zeppelin | distortio: I have to have $50 for broadband... |
21:22.11 | distortio | dsl is down to $15 a month through sbc/yahoo |
21:22.16 | Led_Zeppelin | distortio: yes, I know but most of my friends are all over the U.S so I stay pretty close to them... |
21:22.46 | Led_Zeppelin | distortio: LOL...not here, we share broadband (roomates and I)...its $15/month each for 4 of us :-( |
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21:23.11 | Led_Zeppelin | i don't know how people without jobs afford that stuff |
21:23.22 | distortio | perfect, add another 5$/month for the 4 of you and you have unlimited calling :) |
21:23.26 | Led_Zeppelin | looks like that $19.00 service is nice. |
21:23.34 | Ariel_ | Led_Zeppelin, no job?? hum I dont' have a job... self employed here. |
21:23.36 | Led_Zeppelin | distortio: lol yea. |
21:23.47 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: yea..got a job :-( sucks |
21:24.13 | Led_Zeppelin | Ariel_: tutor for the compsci dept...pay sucks, but I work on UNIX all day :-) |
21:25.22 | Led_Zeppelin | so, if I get a service...will they give me hardware or do I buy my own? |
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21:26.29 | spackle | must be quittin' time? |
21:26.55 | syle | not possible to have an extension 100 and 1006? |
21:27.08 | syle | 100 always gets executed first trying to call 1006 |
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21:27.32 | Sedorox | [17:26] -lilo- [Server Notice] We need to restart your server.... you should be back very quickly. See you on the other side! |
21:27.39 | Sedorox | ooo personilazation (sp) |
21:27.40 | Sedorox | :p |
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21:33.27 | Aschiz | anyone know about this message? Got SIP response 486 "Busy" back .... |
21:33.49 | Aschiz | ANy help is welcome.. |
21:34.02 | many | what kind of fon? |
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21:36.24 | hardwire | http://voip001.corp.anc.tdxnet.com:8000/stream.ogg == 19077628407 |
21:36.27 | hardwire | I love app_ices |
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21:38.44 | clyrrad | is there a way to use variables in queues.conf that was created in extensions.conf? |
21:39.13 | MikeJ[Laptop] | clyrrad, what are you trying to do? |
21:39.19 | spackle | clyrrad: dbset |
21:39.42 | clyrrad | I create a variable.... an extension number in extensions.conf... and I need that to be passed into queues.conf |
21:39.55 | clyrrad | so i can use one context for many queues |
21:41.03 | clyrrad | spackle dbset yields no results on voip-info.org |
21:41.40 | PupenoL | I have Asterisk installed and I am registered with a Linksys PAP2 and Linphone, does anybody know how to make a call with linphone (dialing 3 makes the linphone ring, dialing 1 should make the other phone ring, but I don't know how to dial 1) ? |
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21:43.02 | clyrrad | I am wondering if its even possible to use variables in the queues.conf file.... *scratches his head* |
21:44.37 | spackle | clyrrad: sorry, it is here:http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20cmd%20DBget |
21:46.47 | clyrrad | spackle... I dont see how that would work though... I need to replace [2000] with [${varName}] inside queues.conf |
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21:47.56 | clyrrad | I think the problem is that the variable is in a different file and does not get passed |
21:48.23 | paryl | how long do you guys think it will be before 1.2.0 is ready for production use? |
21:49.11 | ender | anybody know what ztclock is and why some rpms add it to the zaptel source? |
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21:50.55 | spackle | clyrrad, it may not work. |
21:51.34 | clyrrad | spackle.... the other problem with dbput and dbget is each call will overright the value so when multiple calls come in it will not work |
21:51.47 | r0m | see you boys 'n' guys tomorrow! |
21:54.31 | clyrrad | any of the experts here know the answer to my question? |
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21:55.43 | Ariel_ | clyrrad, I have go. but there is a command you need to look up called SetVar |
21:56.03 | spackle | clyrrad: I'm off, but what if you add a value to make the value unique? |
21:56.17 | clyrrad | thanks Ariel_ I tried setVar |
21:56.37 | Ariel_ | See you later folks. It's time to take the drive home in the rain... |
21:56.38 | clyrrad | its sets the variable in extensions.conf... but the problem is getting queues.conf to read it |
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21:58.12 | hardwire | mutilator: ! |
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22:02.45 | Delta34 | anybody here using cisco phones? which setting sets the callerid name for person initiating call, i get callerid on the person that receives the call |
22:03.04 | Delta34 | so when i dial, i see who i am dialing |
22:03.55 | zippp | sip.conf callerid? |
22:04.08 | Tabo | hey guys |
22:04.18 | Tabo | will they ever make asterisk for windows? |
22:04.24 | Delta34 | i got that set already, the called person sees the callerid name |
22:04.32 | zippp | so what do you want? |
22:04.47 | zippp | name of who you are calling to show up on the phone? |
22:04.59 | Delta34 | i want to see when i dial 4xxx when it starts the call, 4xxx is so so |
22:05.06 | Delta34 | xten does is |
22:05.10 | Delta34 | it |
22:05.17 | zippp | that is phone specific |
22:05.28 | zippp | i.e. an address book |
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22:08.45 | Delta34 | any cisco users know how to implement this? |
22:08.58 | Delta34 | i have a directory.xml file |
22:10.21 | blitzmere | can someone tell me what --> WARNING[3036]: chan_sip.c:7762 sipsock_read: Recv error: Connection reset bt peer <-- means??? |
22:12.51 | darkskiez | Delta34: spoke england? you learn it from a book ? |
22:13.07 | darkskiez | Delta: Oh i read back earlier |
22:13.12 | darkskiez | Delta: I want that too |
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22:13.29 | darkskiez | Delta: its a feature thats JUST been added to the sip7.5 firmware |
22:13.41 | darkskiez | Delta: but, * does not support it just yet |
22:14.02 | stormfr | hello, how to verify that's other party don't have Comfort noise enable ? (else than the warning that's send asterisk) Is it in a sip message ? |
22:14.05 | darkskiez | Delta: as its not existed until just not and no other sip phone supports it |
22:14.29 | darkskiez | Delta: its the SIP Update feature and the Remote-Party-ID stuff, so look on the tracker in coming months, but wont be added to 1.2 |
22:14.51 | darkskiez | Delta: But if u use the SCCP firmware and chan_sccp you can use SetCalledID or somthing to that effect |
22:15.22 | darkskiez | sorry, just back from the pub and am pished |
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22:16.09 | darkskiez | stormfr: comfort noise shouldnt be a problem, are you sure u dont mean VAD or silence detection ? |
22:16.52 | gpled | looking for a linux voice mail solution. is asterisk the way to go? |
22:17.00 | darkskiez | yes |
22:17.05 | darkskiez | NEXT! |
22:17.26 | stormfr | darkskiez : message from asterisk is rtp.c:284 process_rfc3389: Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389). Please turn off on client if possible. |
22:17.38 | darkskiez | Oh, that |
22:17.53 | stormfr | darkskiez : client (gateway) is huawai and it's global setting and it's disable |
22:17.54 | darkskiez | shit, forgot |
22:18.09 | darkskiez | is that client a phone or another gateway? |
22:18.27 | stormfr | darkskiez : they deliver 50 Millions minute per month so it's a big gateway i guess |
22:18.58 | stormfr | maybe error in new warning code ? or they make a mystake in my sip trunk but we try 3 days to make different test and still warning |
22:19.18 | darkskiez | dont know sorry |
22:19.22 | stormfr | thanks anyway |
22:19.45 | darkskiez | but i suspect the gateway hasnt disabled comfort noise |
22:19.52 | Aschiz | anyone know about this message? Got SIP response 486 "Busy" back .... |
22:20.03 | Aschiz | I really need a hand... |
22:20.04 | darkskiez | They're on the phone |
22:20.11 | darkskiez | ask the bird? |
22:20.14 | ender | anybody know anything about cleaning up make files for 64bit installations? |
22:20.27 | ender | stupid zaptel makefile hardinstalls things to /usr/lib/ instead of /usr/lib64 |
22:20.50 | gpled | ender: as in make clean? |
22:20.55 | darkskiez | hardcoding to /usr/lib64 would be bad too |
22:22.00 | ender | darkskiez: yes, it needs to be changed to be arch modular. |
22:22.03 | Piranha- | any recommendations on where to buy a single fxs card? |
22:22.34 | darkskiez | TDM400 with one module ? |
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22:23.01 | blitzmere | can someone tell me what --> WARNING[3036]: chan_sip.c:7762 sipsock_read: Recv error: Connection reset bt peer <-- means??? |
22:23.25 | darkskiez | blitz: it means the client closed the connection |
22:23.33 | darkskiez | maybe it was turned off |
22:23.53 | blitzmere | ok thanks |
22:24.25 | jarrod | hmm |
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22:32.47 | generalhan | OMG please tell me someone in here has successfully witched a cisco 7960 from SCCP to SIP ... this is the hardest thing to do EVER |
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22:36.22 | newmember | generalhan: some guy in my office just did that |
22:37.47 | generalhan | newmember: oh yeah, LOL, well tell him to get on here and explain it to me |
22:37.54 | generalhan | cuase i cant get it to work |
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22:39.00 | criptos | HI, DOes anyone have configured asterisk to use telextreme witout the ata devices? |
22:39.14 | criptos | experiences with telextreme? |
22:39.21 | newmember | generalhan: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Setup%20SiP%20on%207940%20-%207960 |
22:39.47 | newmember | I remember him tellong me it takes a few minutes to upload the sip firmware |
22:39.50 | generalhan | been there |
22:40.02 | generalhan | i followed the step by step instructions and still nothing |
22:40.07 | generalhan | it wont update the firmware |
22:41.53 | newmember | generalhan: hmmm, I do not see him online at the moment |
22:42.16 | newmember | generalhan: it better had work, I have 22 more coming in the morning |
22:42.55 | generalhan | yeah i have 15 here in my office, and i ordered 15 cheapy SIP phones that worked perfectly but at over $300 a pop my boss will be VERY pissed if he loses out on that investment |
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22:45.05 | newmember | generalhan: $270 each for me |
22:45.32 | newmember | generalhan: look nice, we will see when they are on my desk how things go |
22:46.29 | generalhan | wel we are using the phones now on the SCCP and i LOVE them they are great phones |
22:46.56 | generalhan | but we are getting rid of this REALLY expensive cisco hosted stuff and going to asterisk and i dont want to lose the phones |
22:49.55 | gtigene | With CVS HEAD do I have to use a 2.6 kernel or can I use 2.4? |
22:50.30 | Tabo | well |
22:50.30 | criptos | <PROTECTED> |
22:50.43 | Tabo | ites cheaper than spending $10,000 on a real pbx |
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22:50.59 | blitzmere | can i get more help |
22:51.07 | criptos | about what bli? |
22:51.14 | blitzmere | i need help with ---> Aug 30 WARNING[2376]: chan_sip.c:700 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 17c5e07e0b0abb7751af16c61dee132f@69.193.166.19 |
22:51.14 | blitzmere | 3 for seqno 102 (Non-critical Request) |
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22:51.45 | ender | what all is mpg123 used for in asterisk? mpg123 doesn't compile for x86_64, so I need a replacement. |
22:52.02 | zippp | mpg321? |
22:52.36 | gtigene | ender: mpg123 is used for music on hold. I don't know what else |
22:52.45 | ender | appearently mpg321 isn't sufficient. |
22:52.51 | ender | k. |
22:53.20 | gtigene | ender: I think I had mpg321 at first and it didn't work |
22:53.57 | ender | hrm, suse has an x86_64 build of mpg123... I wonder how they did that. |
22:54.38 | Ariel_ | ender, you build it for 32 bit code and just copy the files over |
22:54.59 | Ariel_ | mpg321 does not work with asterisk. |
22:55.09 | paulc | Any Adtran experts in the house? I'm looking for a bit of Total Access 608 info - simple question with a simple yes/no answer? |
22:56.29 | Ariel_ | paulc, I have used adtrans but the su-600 TA-750/850 only |
22:56.40 | paulc | similar kind of devices though? |
22:56.41 | paulc | my question is.. |
22:57.17 | paulc | I've got a customer who's having a T1 come in.. it was going to be split in to a meg for data and 8 FXS ports... I'd rather it was groomed in to a meg for data, then a fractional T1 out (to be connected to an asterisk box).. Doable? |
22:57.47 | Ariel_ | yes |
22:58.04 | blitzmere | and how can i fix this ----> NOTICE[2376]: indications.c:397 ast_unregister_indication_country: Removed default indication country 'us' |
22:58.08 | Ariel_ | but it will have to be 8 analog rest data |
22:58.41 | paulc | has to be 8 FXS ports? I can't output a fractional PRI to the asterisk box? like channels 1 to 8? |
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22:59.06 | Ariel_ | paulc, does not work that way |
22:59.21 | Ariel_ | at least not on that unit |
22:59.24 | paulc | ok, so that model is a "groom data and give me 8 FXS ports" type device.. |
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22:59.33 | paulc | is there a unit that'll split a T1 in to fractional PRI + data? |
22:59.41 | Ariel_ | your t1 card in the asterisk box can do with some work do what you want |
23:00.13 | ender | Ariel_: mpg123 doesn't have good machine code for x86_64 os |
23:00.16 | Ariel_ | paulc, yes there are units that can do that. |
23:00.19 | ender | Ariel_: the assembly is borked. |
23:00.55 | paulc | Ariel_: Yeah, I wondered about letting the asterisk box do all the work but would rather not go down that path |
23:01.01 | paulc | any recommendations on a T1/PRI groomer? |
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23:01.47 | Ariel_ | ender, you need to compile it on a 32 bit first then just bring that over |
23:02.34 | Ariel_ | paulc, let me check with a person I know. I remember him getting the line directly into the asterisk box to the t1 card and using it to do the seperation. |
23:02.53 | paulc | thanks - that would be really helpful :) |
23:02.57 | ender | Ariel_: um, and if the assembly doesn't match up? |
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23:03.10 | Ariel_ | paulc, you could call digium to see if they have the settings. But then your asterisk box will be your data gateway |
23:03.48 | Ariel_ | ender, I know that drunkilla did it. You should check with him. |
23:04.09 | paulc | Yeah, I'm kinda keen to avoid that.. I'd rather have a box that splits my data and PRI, then plug a sub-equipped/fractional PRI in to my Asterisk box.. nice'n'simple.. |
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23:04.51 | Ariel_ | paulc, have you asked you t1 vendor? |
23:05.22 | Ariel_ | don't tell them it's for an asterisk box most don't know what that is. |
23:05.29 | paulc | I'm sort of the middle man - the customer's talking to them direct.. it was them that suggested the 608.. so I can ask further.. but if I can go to them and say "you need model XXX" then everyone's life becomes easier |
23:05.37 | paulc | hehe.. yeah.. just tell them you need a fractional PRI for the voice side |
23:06.07 | Ariel_ | well then your next best call would be to adtran |
23:06.24 | Ariel_ | they are very good at helping and provide the model numbers and options you need. |
23:06.59 | Ariel_ | Adtran's office is in the general area of digiums. |
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23:09.34 | paulc | Yeah.. who used to work at Adtran.. angler? or maybe it was mark? |
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23:10.58 | Delta34 | anybody know how to fix this WARNING[29115]: chan_sip.c:701 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call? |
23:11.36 | JerJer | don't exceed the max retries |
23:13.57 | Delta34 | when i do a sip debug, it ends like this Retransmitting #5 (no NAT): SIP/2.0 487 Request Terminated |
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23:20.27 | blitzmere | well my soft client plays music when it calls instead of a ring |
23:20.41 | blitzmere | anyway of fixing this |
23:21.11 | Ariel_ | blitzmere, take the m out of your dial plan |
23:21.25 | blitzmere | ok thanks |
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23:24.34 | Hmmhesays | bkw_ boi you around? |
23:26.42 | Ariel_ | paulc, the 608 will not do what you want |
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23:27.07 | Hmmhesays | I have a serious dilema |
23:28.08 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, are you on your death bed? |
23:28.44 | Hmmhesays | no |
23:29.03 | Hmmhesays | I need some infrastructure pointers though |
23:29.07 | Hmmhesays | I just got a job offer |
23:29.15 | Ariel_ | ahh |
23:29.18 | Ariel_ | nice |
23:29.27 | Hmmhesays | with an isp that wants to start to offer voip to their 4,000 customers |
23:29.49 | Hmmhesays | they looked me up cause i'm the only asterisk guy in town |
23:29.50 | Ariel_ | wow nice |
23:30.00 | Ariel_ | really town where? |
23:30.03 | Hmmhesays | fargo |
23:30.09 | paulc | Ariel_: Yeah.. The 608 is definitely not what I want.. the question is what device will give me a fractional PRI.. |
23:30.26 | paulc | Hmmhesays: Nice project.. but scary too huh? ;-) |
23:30.32 | Hmmhesays | paulc quite |
23:30.42 | Ariel_ | paulc, talk to my pal he is in Columbia right now and is not able to talk much. |
23:30.56 | Hmmhesays | so I was hoping to maybe talk to bkw_ or anthm about how asterlink is set up |
23:31.09 | paulc | Someone I know wanted to do VoIP for a whole city/government thing.. including a hospital.. I shat my pants and ran a mile |
23:31.15 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, really now. |
23:31.18 | paulc | asterlink have a bunch of boxes with T1s in I think |
23:31.23 | paulc | well, I know.. from whe I was there.. |
23:31.39 | Hmmhesays | oh really Ariel_? |
23:32.19 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, part time I am helping them manager 9 asterisk boxes right now. |
23:32.37 | Hmmhesays | the one thing i'm missing is how do you centralize configuration amongst 10-20 asterisk boxes |
23:32.46 | drumkilla | Hmmhesays: realtime? |
23:33.25 | Hmmhesays | i suppose |
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23:33.30 | Hmmhesays | is it stable these days? |
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23:33.44 | drumkilla | lots of people are using it ... |
23:33.46 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, not yet |
23:33.51 | drumkilla | and soon to be much more when 1.2 comes out |
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23:34.02 | Hmmhesays | Ariel_: what are you using currently? |
23:34.07 | Ariel_ | but you could also do it via SER if your going to offer sip |
23:34.30 | Hmmhesays | a single ser box could probably handle their 4k customers <chuckle> |
23:34.41 | Ariel_ | we have a setup that uses flat files from a mysql database |
23:34.45 | sedwards50 | How can I mute DTMF while in meetme? |
23:35.19 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, it was setup before realtime and we have tested realtime and it's still got issues. |
23:35.31 | Hmmhesays | how do you accomplish routing between a large number of boxes, i've done 2 or 3 but the way I do it bassackwards |
23:35.35 | Ariel_ | ser gets out of the way of the call so yes |
23:35.36 | shmaltz | sedwards50, what technology on the client? |
23:35.37 | Hmmhesays | or so it seems |
23:36.13 | sedwards50 | Zap. Zap forwarded via Iax appears to be mostly muted. |
23:36.18 | Ariel_ | we actually control the 3 main boxes with a external raid qfs mount |
23:36.18 | Hmmhesays | the way they are setup asterisk will have to handle the media, unless its a reinvite between asterisk boxes |
23:37.15 | Hmmhesays | say we are doing just sip here too |
23:37.27 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, you do reliase we had to do allot of custom work for the asterisk to work correctly with the cdr's. |
23:37.47 | Hmmhesays | Ariel_ i'm sure, this company has some good C guys though |
23:38.09 | Ariel_ | good then your 80 % there |
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23:38.41 | Hmmhesays | I"m missing a key element in the dialplan for routing with 10x boxes though |
23:39.14 | Hmmhesays | hmmm |
23:39.39 | paulc | Hmmhesays: I think when I was there, it was text config files, rebuilt periodically from a database, and mounted via NFS share so all nodes shared a common config |
23:40.19 | Ariel_ | paulc, similar with ours but we use qfs instead fo nfs it's faster and safer |
23:40.39 | Hmmhesays | say I have 10x boxes with 100 peers on each though, peer1 registers with box one, peer1000 registers with box 10 |
23:40.47 | Ariel_ | Our C programmer did the web interface and user accounts setups. Then writes the files out. |
23:41.12 | Ariel_ | I handled the macros and rules for rollover and hosted systems from the extensions.conf |
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23:41.32 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, you don't need that many |
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23:41.58 | Hmmhesays | ?no? |
23:42.02 | Ariel_ | it's up to how your going to load balance it. and you don't always need to be in the mix either unless your going to pstn all the time. |
23:42.31 | Ariel_ | what happens is that you will see lots of users actually calling others in your own area code which are suprising on your own system. |
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23:42.52 | Hmmhesays | load balancing would probably happen by registering 120 so each box |
23:42.52 | Trionnis | oh good god |
23:42.54 | Trionnis | <[B]ebek17> http://www.sexyteens.gen.ms Free Porno Videos |
23:42.55 | Hmmhesays | unless there is a better way |
23:42.58 | Trionnis | someone boot that loser |
23:43.13 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, if your doing sip mainly use the power of ser for front end |
23:43.26 | Ariel_ | asterisk as your back end gateway to pstn. |
23:43.37 | Hmmhesays | I don't know that much about ser |
23:43.45 | Ariel_ | Then if you need to assign IAX accounts you then manage them on a central asterisk box. |
23:43.48 | Hmmhesays | no iax |
23:43.51 | Hmmhesays | all sip |
23:44.14 | Hmmhesays | argh I feel like a n00b again |
23:44.15 | Ariel_ | easyer then. But the rules are well harder to learn on SER |
23:44.52 | tzanger | ugh why's it so fucking hard to find a windows modbus protocol analyzer |
23:44.57 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, well it's a new project far bigger then the others. |
23:45.07 | Hmmhesays | yes |
23:45.20 | Hmmhesays | basically what I need is a good sip setup with centralized config for 4k users |
23:46.08 | Trionnis | anyone around that knows how to add voices to Festival? |
23:46.20 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, how do you know your going to have 4000 sip user right off the bat. |
23:46.30 | tzanger | Hmmhesays: sounds like something custom and something lucrative |
23:46.33 | tzanger | get coding :-) |
23:46.35 | Hmmhesays | well it has to be scalable |
23:46.45 | Trionnis | specifically this one: http://www.festvox.org/cmu_arctic/dbs_slt.html |
23:46.56 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, yes you build it that way. But don't put all the boxes up at first. |
23:47.03 | Hmmhesays | i have no problem with 500 users, but the way I would do the dialplan seems a bit off |
23:47.15 | Ariel_ | why |
23:47.35 | Ariel_ | dial plans are even simpler when you are just providing sip accounts |
23:47.43 | Hmmhesays | well say with 4 boxes you have 120 peers registered to each box |
23:47.55 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, no you don't |
23:47.59 | Hmmhesays | no? |
23:48.05 | sedwards50 | shmaltz, The zap channels on the meetme box do not mute the DTMF. The zap channels forwarded to the meetme box via iax mostly mute the DTMF. |
23:48.24 | paulc | I was wondering the same thing.. like.. how can you load balance phones <--> access boxes |
23:48.44 | sedwards50 | Would TDMoE mute or not mute DTMF? |
23:48.51 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, our main box has over 2000 registered users. |
23:49.20 | Ariel_ | SER |
23:49.27 | Hmmhesays | they are registered to ser? |
23:49.35 | Ariel_ | DNS servers and hartbeat for the back end |
23:49.41 | Ariel_ | yes |
23:49.46 | Weezey | Ariel_: how many calls to you get at peak times? |
23:49.51 | Hmmhesays | so ser does all the routing |
23:50.20 | Ariel_ | let me login it's almost peak in California |
23:51.15 | *** join/#asterisk ohad (n=ohad@18-231-13-72.cosmoweb.net) |
23:51.31 | ohad | hi, is there an easy way to setup Iaxy? |
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23:51.36 | Weezey | Ariel_: is SER running on the same box as asterisk? |
23:51.38 | Ariel_ | wow not many right now only 452 |
23:51.38 | Trionnis | hey tzanger, what do you know about festival? |
23:51.43 | Ariel_ | no |
23:51.48 | tzanger | Trionnis: no, sorry |
23:51.53 | Trionnis | bah |
23:51.55 | Weezey | 452/2000 is more that not many. |
23:51.56 | ohad | Ariel_, are you talking to me? |
23:51.56 | Trionnis | anyone? |
23:51.58 | Trionnis | :) |
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23:52.17 | Ariel_ | that how many channels are on right now |
23:52.28 | Ariel_ | sorry active channels |
23:52.37 | Ariel_ | ohad, no |
23:52.48 | drkfiber | I have very choppy music on hold connecting in via sip using X-Lite. have not tried with any other softphones, I didn't find much by googleing. Any Ideas? |
23:53.04 | Trionnis | turn off silence supression |
23:53.08 | Weezey | Ariel_: that's not "not many" though, that's a fairly high number of them. |
23:53.19 | Hmmhesays | so Ariel: you have ser taking care of all of your registrations |
23:53.28 | drkfiber | I am using Asterisk@home. How do I turn off silence supression? |
23:53.29 | ohad | easy way to setup Iaxy? |
23:53.34 | Hmmhesays | asterisk is taking care of tdm and voicemail? |
23:53.34 | Trionnis | in xlite |
23:53.41 | Ariel_ | Hmmhesays, yes they do. But I did not configure the ser |
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23:53.45 | Ariel_ | I setup the asterisk side |
23:54.01 | drkfiber | I will try. Thanks. |
23:54.08 | Hmmhesays | what back end database are you using for auth? |
23:54.08 | Trionnis | welcome ;) |
23:54.12 | timecop | test |
23:54.23 | timecop | oh wow, did this channel take out bulshit requirement to ident before joining? |
23:54.33 | Weezey | timecop: yep |
23:54.36 | timecop | excellent |
23:54.44 | blitzmere | does anyone know how I can fix this --->> NOTICE[2376]: indications.c:397 ast_unregister_indication_country: Removed default indication country 'us' <---- |
23:55.18 | Ariel_ | got to go customer on phone |
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23:56.51 | [hC] | is there a way to make it so that when i run out of g729 licenses, it fails over to using another codec instead of just passing into dead air?? |
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23:59.53 | drkfiber | Trionnis, that worked. Thanks again. |