irclog2html for #asterisk on 20050626

`00:00.55`	`mafkees`	`wow`
`00:01.05`	`mafkees`	`freakin hell, that ael rocks`
`00:01.53`	`robl^`	`YUP!`
`00:02.00`	`*** join/#asterisk DarthClue (~Headaches@adsl-70-244-228-14.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net)`
`00:02.15`	`tzanger`	`ael is nice but convoluted`
`00:02.25`	`robl^`	`AEL is the best thing to come along since Asterisk :)`
`00:02.52`	`DarthClue`	`if you think ael is nice, you should take a look at res_js.`
`00:03.20`	`robl^`	`I want res_logo ;)`
`00:03.36`	`sarahemm`	`lol`
`00:03.41`	`DarthClue`	`res_logo?`
`00:03.42`	`sarahemm`	`res_intercal!`
`00:03.53`	`robl^`	`res_ada`
`00:03.54`	`mafkees`	`res_C`
`00:04.00`	`mafkees`	`res_COBOL`
`00:04.01`	`mafkees`	`;)`
`00:04.06`	`sarahemm`	`mafkees: that'd just be apps, res_c`
`00:04.12`	`robl^`	`res_quickbasic`
`00:04.35`	`DarthClue`	`res_c#`
`00:04.44`	`robl^`	`hey! I like c#`
`00:04.50`	`mafkees`	`DarthClue: I know it's a matter of taste, but I hate javascript`
`00:05.13`	`DarthClue`	`i'm just saying that res_js is more powerful than ael`
`00:05.59`	`fifer`	`Whats the URL for AEL?`
`00:06.34`	`kajtzu`	`res_dwiwnwiw >:) (do what i want not what i wrote)`
`00:06.41`	`mafkees`	`cvs co asterisk && cd asterisk/doc && less README.ael`
`00:07.04`	`sarahemm`	`err.. s/head/HEAD/`
`00:07.15`	`sarahemm`	`gotta get working on that app, robl^ says so.. :)`
`00:08.30`	`tzanger`	`heh`
`00:08.35`	`robl^`	`DarthClue, put that away in public!`
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`00:09.19`	`DarthClue`	`robl^: if you don't want to see it, look away.`
`00:09.23`	`fifer`	`Does anyone have Python setup for * scripting?`
`00:09.38`	`mafkees`	`fifer: yes`
`00:09.56`	`fifer`	`PyAsterisk`
`00:10.01`	`mafkees`	`ah`
`00:10.04`	`mafkees`	`no, not that`
`00:10.05`	`mafkees`	`sorry`
`00:10.14`	`mafkees`	`I did write it all myself`
`00:10.18`	`mafkees`	`same with php`
`00:10.33`	`mafkees`	`not using the class. I don't need all of it`
`00:11.13`	`mafkees`	`what I want to do is not that hard, so I decided to just type it in instead of spending time with downloading and installing it`
`00:12.31`	`mafkees`	`yeah, most of mine are in php too`
`00:12.42`	`robl^`	`php == good`
`00:12.52`	`mafkees`	`but one is in python, cause I need to talk to Exchange4Linux`
`00:12.55`	`sarahemm`	`ahh`
`00:13.09`	`sarahemm`	`my current one is a backend PHP AGI that talks to a frontend php/apache script via TCP..`
`00:13.30`	`mafkees`	`and since Exchange4Linux is returning cPickled data, I need python to unPickle it`
`00:13.42`	`robl^`	`pickles!`
`00:13.42`	`sarahemm`	`mmmm, pickles.`
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`00:14.06`	`mafkees`	`it's a lot like php's serialize`
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`00:14.15`	`mafkees`	`but the 2 formats are not compatible`
`00:14.23`	`sarahemm`	`nods i know.`
`00:14.26`	`sarahemm`	`i code in python too :)`
`00:14.33`	`mafkees`	`I hate python`
`00:14.50`	`mafkees`	`the way to group statements is just SO wrong`
`00:15.04`	`mafkees`	`rely on indenting.....how bad can it be`
`00:15.17`	`robl^`	`mafkees, EXACTLY!!!!`
`00:16.02`	`mafkees`	`everytime I open a python script I have to reconfigure vim to show tabs as .`
`00:16.15`	`mafkees`	`so I can tell wether it's a tab or just 2 spaces`
`00:16.45`	`robl^`	`everytime I open a python script, I port it to php`
`00:16.48`	`sarahemm`	`lol`
`00:16.54`	`mafkees`	`lol`
`00:17.07`	`mafkees`	`./py2php bla.py`
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`00:22.20`	`infinity1`	`this is a dumb questions. but is nufone for outbound calling only? i don't quite grasp these voip gateway services yet.`
`00:23.24`	`sarahemm`	`err, afaik no`
`00:23.26`	`sarahemm`	`most are both ways`
`00:23.31`	`sarahemm`	`you get a phone number, adn you can call in or out`
`00:23.32`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: you can get inbound service with nufone as well. Most provide inbound on toll-frees for 2 cents a minute.`
`00:24.19`	`infinity1`	`so nufone gives you a michigan phone #?`
`00:25.15`	`infinity1`	`maybe i should just give them $1 and play with it. heh`
`00:25.17`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: i believe so, yes.`
`00:25.34`	`sarahemm`	`$1?`
`00:25.43`	`DarthClue`	`asterlink will give you a toll free number for just 2 cents a minute prepaid.`
`00:25.50`	`infinity1`	`their website is confusing to me. probably cuz i'm a noob.`
`00:25.50`	`mafkees`	`I wish there were some Dutch companies provideng DID based on IAX`
`00:26.12`	`DarthClue`	`whose website?`
`00:26.20`	`pingywon`	`when i look at my outbound routing ..why does my trunk have an X next to it`
`00:26.21`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: nufone`
`00:27.54`	`PatrickDK`	`pingy, all answers to be found at voip-info.org`
`00:28.13`	`pingywon`	`w00t`
`00:28.54`	`DA-MAN`	`stay away from sixtel`
`00:28.57`	`sarahemm`	`infinity1: where did you get $1?`
`00:29.04`	`DA-MAN`	`unless you want to wait a few months for them to do anything`
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`00:29.25`	`infinity1`	`sarahemm: i duno. how much does nufone cost. i fugure to play, $1 will get me 50 mins. :)`
`00:30.08`	`erickj_az`	`Somthing has happened to my asterisk machine. When I try to start asterisk I get: loader.c:473 load_modules: Loading module chan_zap.so failed!`
`00:30.21`	`erickj_az`	`Anyone have any ideas on where to go?`
`00:30.26`	`pingywon`	`that means its broke`
`00:30.29`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: you can do that with asterlink on a toll free. nufone with michigan did will cost you $7.50 / month`
`00:30.30`	`erickj_az`	`thank`
`00:30.32`	`erickj_az`	`s`
`00:30.34`	`pingywon`	`no prob`
`00:30.38`	`pingywon`	`thats my free advice`
`00:30.46`	`DarthClue`	`erickj_az: increase the verbosity and see what else drops out.`
`00:30.57`	`sarahemm`	`infinity1: oh.. you have to sign up and pay per month and such, i thought...`
`00:31.02`	`sarahemm`	`the site is a little confusing`
`00:31.03`	`erickj_az`	`that with more v's right?`
`00:31.15`	`mafkees`	`erickj_az: yes`
`00:31.22`	`mafkees`	`asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvc`
`00:31.29`	`erickj_az`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:31.42`	`*** join/#asterisk file (~jcolp@mctnnbsah25-142166092112.nb.aliant.net)`
`00:31.53`	`erickj_az`	`does that help?`
`00:32.08`	`infinity1`	`h,`
`00:32.09`	`DarthClue`	`erickj_az: pastebin the full output.`
`00:32.10`	`infinity1`	`hmmm`
`00:32.31`	`erickj_az`	`I'm sorry what is pastebin?`
`00:32.37`	`sarahemm`	`~pastebin`
`00:32.37`	`jbot`	`methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca`
`00:32.44`	`mafkees`	`pastebin.ca`
`00:32.45`	`sarahemm`	`beat you robl^ ;)`
`00:33.57`	`mafkees`	`I'm off ppl`
`00:34.00`	`robl^`	`sarahemm, that's only cuz yer not concetrating on writng apps. if you had been, you wouldn't have typed it so quickly :)`
`00:34.04`	`erickj_az`	`ok http://pastebin.ca/15862`
`00:34.13`	`pingywon`	`tinyurl.com`
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`00:35.05`	`sarahemm`	`robl^: lol, i'm at work and my * box isn't`
`00:35.34`	`robl^`	`sarahemm, no wonder you get nothing done. :)`
`00:36.01`	`sarahemm`	`robl^: well, i have to work :P`
`00:36.01`	`mafkees`	`latero all`
`00:36.04`	`mafkees`	`happy coding`
`00:36.05`	`mafkees`	`:)`
`00:36.07`	`sarahemm`	`well, not that this is really 'working' but ... :)`
`00:36.26`	`robl^`	`bye mafkees`
`00:36.45`	`DarthClue`	`erickj_az: do you have a zaptel device in your machine?`
`00:36.58`	`mafkees`	`wish me luck. Tomorrow I will be converting my 3 year running OpenBSD server to Linux (Debian Sarge)`
`00:37.04`	`sarahemm`	`good luck mafkees :)`
`00:37.12`	`mafkees`	`Only for zaptel support`
`00:37.19`	`mafkees`	`can you believe that ?`
`00:37.25`	`erickj_az`	`I was attempting to use an Intel 537 as a zaptel device, but couldn't`
`00:37.39`	`erickj_az`	`So I just tried to get it back up and running`
`00:37.54`	`DarthClue`	`erickj_az: ok, so no zaptel device. do you have ztdummy loaded?`
`00:37.55`	`mafkees`	`I will get one of those "no longer supported" X100P devices`
`00:38.07`	`mafkees`	`toodles`
`00:38.16`	`erickj_az`	`I don't think I know how to do that.`
`00:38.29`	`infinity1`	`doh.`
`00:38.51`	`DarthClue`	`erickj_az: modprobe ztdummy`
`00:39.23`	`erickj_az`	`modprobe: Can't locate module ztdummy`
`00:39.34`	`erickj_az`	`So I need one of those?`
`00:39.55`	`erickj_az`	`By removing the comment from the makefile?`
`00:39.55`	`infinity1`	`i added nufone to my config, and i get Call rejected by 66.225.202.72: No authority found`
`00:40.00`	`infinity1`	`hm`
`00:40.01`	`DarthClue`	`erickj_az: take a look at this page...http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+timer+ztdummy...you have to have a timing device which is normally a zaptel device.`
`00:41.02`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: do you have a nufone account?`
`00:41.29`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: i just gave them $1 and they sent me config info`
`00:41.32`	`infinity1`	`heh`
`00:41.42`	`sarahemm`	`clear`
`00:41.53`	`*** join/#asterisk wshs (screwy@69-168-246-252.bflony.adelphia.net)`
`00:41.58`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: not sure how long it takes for the accounts to be activated.`
`00:42.10`	`erickj_az`	`Can I use the Intel 537 modem as a zaptel device and use it as an fxo`
`00:42.28`	`DarthClue`	`erickj_az: not that i am aware of.`
`00:42.38`	`bkw_`	`erickj_az, yes you can`
`00:42.39`	`sarahemm`	`erickj_az: depends which 537`
`00:42.48`	`sarahemm`	`537xx where xx is letters.. what do you ahve?`
`00:43.18`	`erickj_az`	`Not sure is there a way to find out from the # prompt?`
`00:43.27`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: do i need this in iax.conf? register => username:password@gw-sfld.nufone.net`
`00:43.28`	`sarahemm`	`not afaik. look at the chip on it :)`
`00:43.34`	`sarahemm`	`you could try 'lspci' but i'm not sure that'll help`
`00:43.40`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: they didn't mention that in the eamil.`
`00:44.05`	`erickj_az`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`00:45.27`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: depends on how you had nufone setup the account. If you want incoming, yes.`
`00:45.46`	`sarahemm`	`erickj_az: i dunno, taht doesn't help`
`00:45.49`	`sarahemm`	`can you look at the chip on it?`
`00:46.00`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: no need for incoming yet.`
`00:46.03`	`infinity1`	`hm`
`00:46.09`	`erickj_az`	`I'll try..Waht would I look for on the chip?`
`00:46.19`	`sarahemm`	`erickj_az: it'll say 537XX where the Xs are letters`
`00:46.25`	`sarahemm`	`if the letters are PU it's supported`
`00:46.29`	`sarahemm`	`if it's EP or anything else, it's not`
`00:46.49`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: so that register line makes it so their server knows to send calls to me if i had a phone # registered with them.`
`00:46.58`	`sarahemm`	`err PU and PG are supported, PU is north america PG is global`
`00:47.21`	`erickj_az`	`Nope not even a 537`
`00:47.31`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: crappy service. their email says "Your account has been setup." meaning it should work. heh`
`00:47.36`	`sarahemm`	`erickj_az: err... what is it?`
`00:48.00`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: i use asterlink and it works as advertised.`
`00:48.05`	`erickj_az`	`It's amodem that is on the motherboard of the machine with a daughter card`
`00:48.11`	`sarahemm`	`oh.. heh`
`00:48.14`	`sarahemm`	`likely not supported`
`00:48.18`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: i'll try that next.`
`00:48.22`	`erickj_az`	`Humm...`
`00:48.27`	`infinity1`	`anyone here use nufone???`
`00:48.32`	`erickj_az`	`OK so I need to do the dummy thing.`
`00:48.38`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: whats the mimumum i can try their service? ..cost wise?`
`00:48.39`	`sarahemm`	`yep`
`00:49.58`	`infinity1`	`sarahemm: any idea on troubleshooting Call rejected by 66.225.202.72: No authority found`
`00:50.11`	`sarahemm`	`infinity1: err, it may take awhile for nufone to set you up, maybe?`
`00:50.23`	`erickj_az`	`will I have to re-compile asterisk or just zaptel?`
`00:50.27`	`sarahemm`	`just zaptel`
`00:50.28`	`infinity1`	`sarahemm: grr .. i want instant gradification for my $1 :)`
`00:50.48`	`sarahemm`	`pastebin your iax config, infinity1 ?`
`00:51.02`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: they prefer $10 minimum to setup an account. Mine was working within 15 minutes and has worked perfectly since.`
`00:51.18`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: asterlink you mean?`
`00:51.27`	`infinity1`	`~pastebin`
`00:51.28`	`jbot`	`methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca`
`00:51.29`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: yes, asterlink.`
`00:51.41`	`*** join/#asterisk efonz (~ekarim@203.76.119.2)`
`00:52.17`	`DA-MAN`	`nufone kinda sucks, they don't set everything up quite right and blame the user no matter what`
`00:52.27`	`infinity1`	`sarahemm: http://pastebin.ca/15863`
`00:52.59`	`infinity1`	`DA-MAN: good think i gave them $1.`
`00:53.00`	`DA-MAN`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:53.02`	`DA-MAN`	`hehe`
`00:53.15`	`infinity1`	`DA-MAN: should have given em .25 first.`
`00:53.17`	`DA-MAN`	`and that was just in the first few hours`
`00:53.23`	`DA-MAN`	`then it got worse`
`00:53.32`	`sarahemm`	`DA-MAN: who are you using instead?`
`00:53.50`	`DA-MAN`	`voicepulse`
`00:54.05`	`DA-MAN`	`a little pricier, but good service, and cheap`
`00:54.13`	`infinity1`	`DA-MAN: the connect.voicepulse service?`
`00:54.14`	`erickj_az`	`I tok the # before the ztdummy line and re-complied zaptel and have the same result`
`00:54.21`	`DA-MAN`	`err not cheap, i meant iax compat`
`00:54.35`	`DA-MAN`	`infinity1, connect.voicepulse.com, yep`
`00:54.48`	`DA-MAN`	`erickj_az, what the problem`
`00:55.11`	`erickj_az`	`Jun 25 17:52:48 WARNING[26640]: loader.c:473 load_modules: Loading module chan_zap.so failed!`
`00:55.45`	`sarahemm`	`erickj_az: did you modprobe ztdummy?`
`00:55.53`	`erickj_az`	`opps`
`00:56.05`	`sarahemm`	`okay, so who has IAX support, is good and stable, and supports tollfree numbers? ;)`
`00:56.30`	`DA-MAN`	`erickj_az, disable the chan_zap module if you aren't using it`
`00:56.48`	`erickj_az`	`lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2115.nptl/kernel/drivers/usb/host/usb-uhci.o: insmod ztdummy failed`
`00:56.52`	`DA-MAN`	`sarahemm, iax.cc (aka sixtel) for non-custom numbers is ok`
`00:57.03`	`erickj_az`	`Ahh...I reember now...`
`00:57.05`	`erickj_az`	`I think`
`00:57.14`	`DarthClue`	`sarahemm: asterlink meets those qualifications.`
`00:57.31`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: LNP?`
`00:57.32`	`DA-MAN`	`DarthClue, think he meant iax providers hehe`
`00:57.54`	`erickj_az`	`t\`
`00:57.58`	`erickj_az`	`that did it.`
`00:58.03`	`DarthClue`	`i user IAX to connect to asterlink.`
`00:58.07`	`erickj_az`	`I forgot I had put that in there`
`00:58.46`	`sarahemm`	`DA-MAN: uhh.. talking to DarthClue about me?`
`00:58.52`	`erickj_az`	`I sogned up with voipjet and they seem to be great!`
`00:59.01`	`DA-MAN`	`think so`
`00:59.07`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: i doubt you'll find many who support LNP but you never know until you ask.`
`00:59.10`	`erickj_az`	`I got broadvoice up and wrking, but I'm not sure I want to keep them.`
`00:59.21`	`infinity1`	`oh shit nufone worked!`
`00:59.33`	`infinity1`	`wholy @#)@)#($)@(*#$`
`00:59.41`	`*** join/#asterisk Morex (~blah@host81-157-123-108.range81-157.btcentralplus.com)`
`00:59.45`	`DA-MAN`	`hahaha`
`00:59.46`	`Morex`	`Hello`
`00:59.54`	`Prion`	`Should cdr_addon_mysql be logging incoming calls?`
`00:59.54`	`erickj_az`	`Does any one here know anything about realtime and sip registration?`
`01:00.01`	`Morex`	`Anyone got any experience with the AGI commands GET VARIABLE or DATABASE GET?`
`01:00.05`	`infinity1`	`i can make fone calls for 2 cents a minute now ..>SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`01:00.08`	`Morex`	`I can't seem to get them to work...`
`01:00.10`	`sarahemm`	`Morex: yes, why?`
`01:00.26`	`infinity1`	`now i need to dump this soft fone and get a real thing`
`01:01.18`	`Morex`	`'Cos I can't get it to work!`
`01:01.29`	`Morex`	`The AGI refuses to find anything I try to send it...`
`01:01.31`	`sarahemm`	`Morex: umm, more details please? define 'not work'?`
`01:01.33`	`Morex`	`Woe is me...`
`01:01.40`	`infinity1`	`time to spoof callerid`
`01:01.43`	`Morex`	`I'll private message you...`
`01:01.48`	`sarahemm`	`err`
`01:01.50`	`sarahemm`	`can we just do it here?`
`01:01.57`	`Morex`	`Sure, if nobody complains...`
`01:02.03`	`sarahemm`	`why is everyone all about callerid spoofing lately?`
`01:02.12`	`Morex`	`Ok so I'm trying to set up a variable inside extensions.conf`
`01:02.13`	`erickj_az`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:02.18`	`Morex`	`Then pass it to my agi servier`
`01:02.19`	`erickj_az`	`It works great!`
`01:02.27`	`Morex`	`In extensions.conf I have a line like`
`01:02.45`	`Morex`	`exten => myexten,1,Set(MyVar=100)`
`01:02.54`	`Morex`	`And then in my AGI server I'm sending`
`01:02.59`	`Morex`	`GET VARIABLE MyVar`
`01:03.02`	`Morex`	`Result is always`
`01:03.13`	`Morex`	`200 result=0`
`01:03.21`	`Morex`	`Which is Asterisk's way of saying it's not been set.`
`01:03.23`	`Morex`	`:-(`
`01:03.25`	`erickj_az`	`I saw a change that will make sip registrations work with realtime out on Google, but now I can't find it. Does anyone know where it is?`
`01:04.33`	`Morex`	`I've also tried it with`
`01:04.42`	`sarahemm`	`err`
`01:04.45`	`sarahemm`	`it's SetVar not Set`
`01:04.50`	`sarahemm`	`from what i can see anyway`
`01:04.58`	`Morex`	`I tried it with that too`
`01:05.06`	`Morex`	`My version of Asterisk said it was deprecated.`
`01:05.10`	`Morex`	`Still didn't work...`
`01:05.13`	`sarahemm`	`oh. running HEAD?`
`01:05.16`	`Morex`	`I'm using HEAD`
`01:05.23`	`DA-MAN`	`hmmm head`
`01:05.31`	`Morex`	`Is it working for you with Stable?`
`01:05.36`	`Morex`	`I'll try downgrading...`
`01:05.45`	`sarahemm`	`i run HEAD`
`01:05.49`	`sivana`	`sarahemm: in HEAD, it's Set() now`
`01:05.52`	`sarahemm`	`i'm doing development work, so no stable for me`
`01:05.56`	`sarahemm`	`sivana: yeah, i just noticed that. heh`
`01:06.00`	`OloBola`	`I installed asterisk from cvs on my friends redhat 9 box, but I can't connect to it. When I start it I get no errors or anything. Where are the error logs? Should I start there?`
`01:06.02`	`sarahemm`	`they work fine here too`
`01:06.10`	`sarahemm`	`i'm not sure what the issue is with morex... hrm`
`01:06.17`	`DA-MAN`	`OlaBola, hows your firewlal working`
`01:06.26`	`Morex`	`I'm able to access the variable from inside extensions.conf`
`01:06.39`	`Morex`	`With NoOp(${MyVar})`
`01:06.46`	`Morex`	`But it just won't get through FastAGI`
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`01:06.56`	`Morex`	`Is that what you're using SarahEmm? Or just regular AGI?`
`01:06.57`	`OloBola`	`DA-MAN: great! (I hope)`
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`01:07.07`	`sarahemm`	`Morex: oh. i'm running normal AGI, not fast`
`01:07.16`	`Morex`	`Maybe that's it then...`
`01:07.20`	`sarahemm`	`could be...`
`01:07.24`	`DA-MAN`	`OlaBola, are you unblocking the ports required for sip/iax to work, because if you're not then you wont see any errors`
`01:08.19`	`OloBola`	`DA-MAN: I see. Firewall rules? Any tips? I not real familiar with linux`
`01:08.27`	`OloBola`	`I'm`
`01:11.14`	`Morex`	`Ah well I'll post a bug and see what happens...`
`01:12.28`	`efonz`	`Anyone looking for International calls at great prices`
`01:17.19`	`DA-MAN`	`try disabling the firewall for a few minutes to test`
`01:17.22`	`DA-MAN`	`see if thats the problem`
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`01:37.05`	`CpuID`	`hey ppls, anyone know what the story is with getting access to the asterisk console using like 'asterisk -rvvvvvvvv' but when asterisk is running as non root?`
`01:37.17`	`CpuID`	`do i need to try the console as the asterisk user or something?`
`01:37.45`	`cybertoy`	`probably ... did you try that?`
`01:37.51`	`CpuID`	`not yet, about to tho`
`01:38.01`	`CpuID`	`i wonder what my options are for executing the console as root`
`01:38.13`	`infinity1`	`asterisk -r`
`01:38.13`	`CpuID`	`since generally im su'd for something or other when i wanna check it`
`01:38.18`	`infinity1`	`i think is the console.`
`01:38.34`	`CpuID`	`just unable to connect here...since my asterisk server isnt running as root anymore`
`01:39.02`	`CpuID`	`sec, bathroom then ill try`
`01:39.46`	`cybertoy`	`I have a wierd one now.. just upgraded to 1.0.8 and now in my extensions.conf a s/<callerid> extension is no longer working.`
`01:39.57`	`cybertoy`	`bug or feature?`
`01:40.14`	`cybertoy`	`couldn't find anything that would point to that direction in the changelog...`
`01:44.17`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, known bug. soon to be fixed`
`01:44.30`	`shido`	`.`
`01:44.39`	`cybertoy`	`robi, thanks.`
`01:44.53`	`cybertoy`	`robl^ that is.`
`01:45.17`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, there is a patch on the mailing list. but its not official. use at your own risk.`
`01:46.19`	`cybertoy`	`no worries.. I'll go back to 1.0.7 for now and wait for the official`
`01:46.31`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, search for "Re: [Asterisk-Users] * 1.0.8: no more reacting to callerid?" on the list archives if you want`
`01:46.46`	`cybertoy`	`tnx.. will do.`
`01:48.17`	`CpuID`	`robl^: whats the date approx on that thread?`
`01:48.25`	`robl^`	`today`
`01:48.46`	`CpuID`	`np`
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`01:49.16`	`CpuID`	`got it, thx`
`01:52.00`	`cybertoy`	`I can't find it... looking at Asterisk-Dev list on lists.digium.com ... that not the right place?`
`01:52.10`	`cybertoy`	`doih`
`01:52.11`	`cybertoy`	`sec`
`01:52.18`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, -users`
`01:52.21`	`cybertoy`	`I'm a monkey... asterisk-users... :)`
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`01:54.28`	`CpuID`	`lol`
`01:54.36`	`CpuID`	`so is it only when that syntax is used?`
`01:55.26`	`CpuID`	`from what im aware, i dont think i use that syntax at all :)`
`01:55.40`	`CpuID`	`actually yea i dont`
`01:55.57`	`CpuID`	`i dont send anything anywhere based on CID, all good`
`01:56.13`	`robl^`	`CpuID, I am not sure. I am still at 1.0.7 on my stable box.. about to move to head after I tweak my development box`
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`01:56.23`	`CpuID`	`ah k`
`01:56.45`	`robl^`	`I just read it on the list :)`
`01:57.05`	`mrplum`	`I am trying to setup my FXO card, and believe my zapata.conf file to be configured correctly, but when I attempt to dial out to Zap/1 I get an error saying the Zap channel can't be created.`
`01:57.08`	`cybertoy`	`I have a disa to make international outbount calls ... and I use that to only allow that from my cellphone number... after I enter a code of course.`
`01:57.34`	`cybertoy`	`just an added layer of security.`
`01:57.37`	`cybertoy`	`nice feature.`
`01:58.44`	`yartelecom`	`Hi, CpuID! what about h323 channel in your 1.0.7 box? this channel working right?`
`01:59.05`	`CpuID`	`er, i dont think i use h323`
`01:59.08`	`CpuID`	`ancient :P)`
`01:59.36`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, I have similar. :) even have it setup to turn on/off my firewall of port 22 from my cell phone.. that way I can allow me to ssh from remote and then disable it again when I am done`
`02:00.14`	`cybertoy`	`now that's paranoid.`
`02:00.19`	`cybertoy`	`but cool :)`
`02:00.32`	`CpuID`	`LOL niice`
`02:00.37`	`CpuID`	`love it robl^`
`02:00.37`	`CpuID`	`:)`
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`02:02.05`	`robl^`	`I am very paranoid about my network security. I have 4 firewalls behind my DSL bridge :)`
`02:02.31`	`CpuID`	`lol`
`02:02.32`	`CpuID`	`:)`
`02:02.41`	`cybertoy`	`in that case I'm surprised you asterisk works... unless you have it in front of your firewalls.`
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`02:04.04`	`CpuID`	`hehe`
`02:04.26`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, I have a strange setup. I have several public IPs that come over my SDSL bridge. 1 IP is directly connected to my Asterisk box and it has an iptables firewall. Other IPs each have nat/firewalls.. 1 per.`
`02:05.11`	`robl^`	`my ISP didn't give me a subnet. its a bridged connection with several IPs.. not sequential`
`02:05.18`	`OloBola`	`service iptables stop`
`02:05.59`	`CpuID`	`ok i was wrong, about my asterisk console issues`
`02:06.23`	`CpuID`	`i can get it from root, thats all fine`
`02:06.27`	`OloBola`	`DA-MAN: I issued: service iptables stop. Then tried to start and attach to asterisk and got: Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?)`
`02:06.30`	`CpuID`	`reason was, my asterisk wasnt started :)`
`02:06.35`	`CpuID`	`startup errors due to permissions :)`
`02:06.40`	`cybertoy`	`robl, interesting... I just moved to the states... right now I'm in a temporary appartment. but for my new place I'm looking for an adequate ISP that can give me some static IP's ... haven't found one in the area here so far though :(`
`02:07.37`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, check speakeasy. if you hqave DSL available from any provider, SpeakEasy will usually be available too.`
`02:08.30`	`cybertoy`	`business class I suppose?`
`02:08.39`	`OloBola`	`DA-MAN: I installed as root, when I try to start from "/var/run/asterisk.ctl" I get a permission denied error.`
`02:09.21`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, they have static ips (as an option) for home users. I think $2.95/mo per IP`
`02:09.51`	`OloBola`	`CpuID: How did you know it was a permissions problem?`
`02:10.08`	`CpuID`	`OloBola: started by using asterisk -U asterisk -G asterisk -vvvvvvvv`
`02:10.11`	`CpuID`	`not from the init scripts`
`02:10.15`	`cybertoy`	`robl, and they don't block ports like 80 or 25 either?`
`02:10.15`	`CpuID`	`and watched the output :)`
`02:10.21`	`CpuID`	`saw permission errors to dsp and zap`
`02:10.31`	`CpuID`	`then saw a warning in the gentoo ebuild postinst function`
`02:10.43`	`CpuID`	`about asterisk needs to be in the relevant groups`
`02:10.46`	`CpuID`	`for audio/zap`
`02:11.00`	`CpuID`	`made sense, as /dev/zap was like 440`
`02:11.04`	`CpuID`	`and group was dialout`
`02:11.12`	`CpuID`	`so yea, added asterisk to dialout, and voila :)`
`02:11.12`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, they block nothing. unless you want the pay extra for "firewall feature". they are also asterisk friendly. running servers is encouraged. tehy are THE ISP for geeks`
`02:11.21`	`cybertoy`	`wow...`
`02:11.23`	`CpuID`	`mmm speakeasy :)`
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`02:11.29`	`cybertoy`	`I think they found a new customer.. :)`
`02:11.41`	`OloBola`	`CpuUD: ok, thanks`
`02:11.50`	`cybertoy`	`robl, I see they offer naked dsl as well.`
`02:11.57`	`robl^`	`cybertoy, they cost a little more, but service is fantastic.`
`02:12.19`	`robl^`	`if you sign up, use me as a referral :)`
`02:12.25`	`CpuID`	`o0 naked dsl, hell yea`
`02:12.28`	`cybertoy`	`that's fine... I'm willing to pay extra for better packages...`
`02:12.36`	`CpuID`	`i wish we had that here in AU`
`02:12.39`	`CpuID`	`damn telstra`
`02:19.19`	`newl`	`You can get that in Australia. It's called ULL service.`
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`02:21.34`	`OloBola`	`Why would I get a permission denied trying to run /var/run/asterisk.ctl: Permission denied`
`02:21.51`	`file`	`no permission?`
`02:21.59`	`OloBola`	`777`
`02:22.21`	`file`	`well it's not like a regular file...`
`02:22.36`	`OloBola`	`I see, so what now`
`02:22.45`	`file`	`try it as root?`
`02:23.00`	`OloBola`	`I'm root and installed as root.`
`02:23.29`	`file`	`if you're getting permission errors, then I somehow doubt it`
`02:24.38`	`OloBola`	`Is it possible to have more than one 'root'? I logged in as root.`
`02:25.00`	`mrplum`	`OloBola, are you running a script that might switch to an asterisk user?`
`02:25.03`	`file`	`you can login more then once, sure`
`02:25.32`	`mrplum`	`what's the command you are actually running`
`02:25.44`	`mrplum`	`oh or is that it? heh /var/run/asterisk.ctl`
`02:25.57`	`OloBola`	`Iyep`
`02:26.05`	`OloBola`	`yes`
`02:26.17`	`mrplum`	`dunno then :) if it's set 777 and you try and run it as root, it sure as hell should run`
`02:26.19`	`OloBola`	`I'm just trying to start asterisk`
`02:26.27`	`file`	`safe_asterisk`
`02:26.30`	`file`	`that'll fire up asterisk,`
`02:26.36`	`file`	`use asterisk -rvvvc to connect a console to the running asterisk`
`02:26.58`	`OloBola`	`Cool! I got an error this time.`
`02:27.06`	`OloBola`	`Asterisk ended with exit status 1`
`02:27.06`	`OloBola`	`Asterisk died with code 1.`
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`02:27.16`	`file`	`okay so do: asterisk -vvvvc`
`02:27.20`	`file`	`that'll run an asterisk right there...`
`02:27.24`	`file`	`and tell you where it errors it`
`02:28.41`	`OloBola`	`Jun 25 22:27:58 WARNING[3560]: loader.c:523 load_modules: Loading module app_curl.so failed!`
`02:28.54`	`file`	`so add noload => appcurl_so`
`02:28.55`	`OloBola`	`I need to reinstall curl?`
`02:29.00`	`file`	`to /etc/asterisk/modules.conf`
`02:29.01`	`file`	`er`
`02:29.04`	`OloBola`	`I se`
`02:29.04`	`file`	`noload => app_curl.so`
`02:29.08`	`file`	`so it won't load that module.`
`02:29.34`	`OloBola`	`ok, it keeps trying to restart asterisk though`
`02:29.43`	`file`	`kill it`
`02:29.51`	`file`	`and if you don't know how to kill it, then you have no business using asterisk`
`02:29.57`	`OloBola`	`thank you!`
`02:30.12`	`file`	`and now I believe I'll run off to the store`
`02:30.28`	`mrplum`	`Can I talk to my x100 fxo through minicom?`
`02:30.36`	`mrplum`	`I'm just tring to get it off the hook so I can test it!`
`02:30.49`	`mrplum`	`asterisk continues to give me can't create zap channel errors`
`02:30.56`	`mrplum`	`doesn't even try to use the modem`
`02:31.13`	`file`	`you configured zaptel.conf and zapata.conf?`
`02:31.22`	`doctor_za_ljubav`	`everyone with the bluetooth cell connection solution?`
`02:31.36`	`doctor_za_ljubav`	`everyone with the bluetooth cell connection solution, please pvt me?`
`02:32.02`	`mrplum`	`uhhh.. zapata.conf yes`
`02:32.06`	`mrplum`	`what's zaptel.conf?`
`02:32.08`	`mrplum`	`oh /etc/zaptel.conf`
`02:32.08`	`mrplum`	`yes`
`02:32.36`	`file`	`and asterisk sees the zaptel channel?`
`02:33.02`	`mrplum`	`how do I tell? ah there must be a cli command`
`02:33.06`	`file`	`zaptel show channels`
`02:33.06`	`mrplum`	`duh didn't think of that. lemme look`
`02:34.00`	`mrplum`	`no it shows nothing, I have a pseudo line`
`02:34.12`	`mrplum`	`wonder why, hmmmm`
`02:35.55`	`mrplum`	`I have only done a /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx reload when I added my zaptel changes, that will reload all configs though won't it?`
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`02:50.48`	`file`	`er yeah not much sleep`
`03:02.12`	`Sed[Mac]`	`for the mac people.. do any use adium?`
`03:02.35`	`file`	`yes`
`03:02.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`i'm finding it weird right now.. but I like it`
`03:02.58`	`file`	`I love it`
`03:03.10`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yea.. I just gotta get use to it`
`03:03.26`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I'm actually thinking about switching over`
`03:03.40`	`Sed[Mac]`	`if only I had a faster mac, lol`
`03:03.47`	`OloBola`	`so if I'm connecting through x-lite sip phone I need to open up 5060 in iptables?`
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`03:13.50`	`tclark`	`hey has any one here played with the keil compiler and the palmh323 srcs, for the iax2 protocol load ?`
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`03:22.40`	`dr123`	`Hey do the Cisco 7912 and 7905 Support using a SIP firmware then interfacing then with Asterisk????`
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`03:26.56`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I'm sure if you can find the right sip image.. sure`
`03:27.01`	`shido`	`?`
`03:30.48`	`Sed[Mac]`	`?`
`03:32.02`	`file[laptop]`	`?`
`03:32.09`	`Qorky`	`?`
`03:32.22`	`Sed[Mac]`	`odd...`
`03:33.03`	`shido`	`even...`
`03:33.15`	`Sed[Mac]`	`left...`
`03:33.19`	`file[laptop]`	`right...`
`03:33.21`	`shido`	`upside`
`03:33.31`	`Sed[Mac]`	`downside/`
`03:33.34`	`shido`	`erwear`
`03:33.37`	`Qorky`	`my old 7905 doesnt have a sip firmware release.`
`03:33.44`	`Qorky`	`back on topic people..`
`03:33.47`	`Qorky`	`:)`
`03:33.50`	`dr123`	`but do you know if an image exists for the 7912 or 7905 that does support SIP`
`03:34.11`	`Qorky`	`im pretty sure there isnt one for the 7905. the old ones`
`03:34.18`	`dr123`	`but for the 7912G?`
`03:34.20`	`Qorky`	`there are 7905G's arnt ther ?`
`03:34.27`	`Qorky`	`i think all the G's can take sip.`
`03:34.32`	`Sed[Mac]`	`7905's are old`
`03:34.37`	`dr123`	`but not he 79701G right`
`03:34.38`	`Sed[Mac]`	`or maybe its a G`
`03:34.38`	`Qorky`	`yeah way old.`
`03:34.39`	`Sed[Mac]`	`:p`
`03:34.45`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I mean not old*`
`03:35.01`	`Sed[Mac]`	`the school district i'm working for just installed them in their new building`
`03:35.08`	`Sed[Mac]`	`for the classroom and halls and stuff`
`03:36.01`	`Sed[Mac]`	`then 7960G's (I think.. or 40) in the offices`
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`03:37.10`	`dr123`	`yeah but from what I undersatnd the 7970's dont work with SIP is that correct?`
`03:37.55`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I would try to answer... but I haven't used cisco phones yet... or really looked into it.. so I couldn't tell you`
`03:38.14`	`robl^`	`7970s don't have SIP (yet)`
`03:38.18`	`DA-MAN`	`i know the 7960's use sip, and the images are called 79xx`
`03:38.28`	`DA-MAN`	`always assumed they were for the entire series`
`03:38.55`	`robl^`	`G = Global. Just means that instead of saying "messages" it has an icon on the button that looks like an envelope. :)`
`03:39.55`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`03:40.01`	`robl^`	`basically yhr global phones have images on the buttons that reflect function instead of imprinted with english text`
`03:40.29`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`03:40.51`	`robl^`	`that's the main distinction.. Also i believe it has to do with the power supplies as well.`
`03:41.26`	`robl^`	`but software and 99.9% of the guts are the same on a 7960 and a 7960G`
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`03:45.38`	`locoast`	`hello!! can I make an asterisk box work as an MGCP endpoint (client)????`
`03:46.10`	`*** join/#asterisk my007ms (~my007ms@217.139.236.110)`
`03:46.18`	`my007ms`	`Hi`
`03:46.23`	`locoast`	`hi`
`03:46.55`	`file[laptop]`	`locoast: no.`
`03:46.58`	`my007ms`	`i have problem with zaptel driver`
`03:47.05`	`locoast`	`puf`
`03:47.09`	`locoast`	`i'm in the oven`
`03:47.22`	`my007ms`	`file[laptop], so u still there`
`03:47.25`	`locoast`	`impossible like really impossible?`
`03:47.33`	`file[laptop]`	`locoast: no support is written for that.`
`03:47.37`	`file[laptop]`	`my007ms: I'm always here`
`03:47.52`	`locoast`	`puf puf ok, starting 10 minutos microwave`
`03:47.53`	`locoast`	`jeje`
`03:48.06`	`file[laptop]`	`rrrrrrrrright...`
`03:48.13`	`my007ms`	`u remmeber reboot ;)`
`03:48.27`	`my007ms`	`i still have this no one help me ever`
`03:48.38`	`locoast`	`whats going on 007?`
`03:48.59`	`my007ms`	`i have TDM31B install in FC4`
`03:49.28`	`my007ms`	`every time i install it it work once but after reboot`
`03:49.35`	`my007ms`	`nothing work`
`03:49.56`	`locoast`	`i'm not an expert but did you check using another motherboard?`
`03:49.57`	`my007ms`	`i have to reinstall FC4 and zaptel from the start`
`03:50.19`	`shido`	`here we go again`
`03:50.28`	`my007ms`	`is motherboard have nothing with card`
`03:50.39`	`robl^`	`my007ms, the problem is FC and kudzu :)`
`03:50.46`	`my007ms`	`shido what time u go to sleep :D`
`03:50.49`	`locoast`	`i got it now`
`03:50.51`	`locoast`	`fedora core 4`
`03:50.53`	`locoast`	`ok`
`03:51.05`	`my007ms`	`what ?`
`03:51.15`	`shido`	`I dont sleep`
`03:51.29`	`shido`	`why are you using Fedora core`
`03:51.37`	`robl^`	`my007ms, kudzu thinks zaptel cards are network cards`
`03:51.42`	`my007ms`	`i try asterisk@home and it's the same`
`03:52.04`	`my007ms`	`so what i have to do stop kudzu ???`
`03:52.30`	`robl^`	`my007ms, I am not surel I gave up trying to use fedora.`
`03:52.48`	`infinity1`	`does anyone have an iaxtel.com # that works, that i can try?`
`03:52.49`	`my007ms`	`so what u used ?`
`03:52.58`	`robl^`	`my007ms, I use debian`
`03:53.13`	`robl^`	`my007ms, a simple minimal install. no GUI`
`03:53.20`	`infinity1`	`does anyone use iaxtel? heh`
`03:53.21`	`locoast`	`I dont have that kind of problems with RH3ES`
`03:53.57`	`robl^`	`locoast, right. I used RHEL3 for a long time too. its fedora core`
`03:54.13`	`robl^`	`RHEL/RHES3 both work well`
`03:54.15`	`locoast`	`you can install rh3ES for free (you wont get support and updates)`
`03:54.16`	`my007ms`	`but y this after reboot what make card stop`
`03:54.40`	`locoast`	`007 do you know whats kudzu?`
`03:54.46`	`my007ms`	`yes`
`03:54.50`	`shido`	`I keep telling you my007ms you need a startup init script`
`03:54.54`	`shido`	`but you dont listen`
`03:54.59`	`shido`	`so Im not going to repeat it again`
`03:55.09`	`robl^`	`my007ms, on rboot, kudzu (which auto detects new hardware) tries to tell Asterisk your card is a Tigerjet/Intel net card`
`03:55.26`	`my007ms`	`yes this is what i get`
`03:55.27`	`locoast`	`007 you are in china right?`
`03:55.33`	`my007ms`	`no`
`03:55.40`	`locoast`	`where are you?`
`03:55.46`	`my007ms`	`egypt`
`03:55.53`	`locoast`	`I knew`
`03:55.55`	`locoast`	`hehe`
`03:56.13`	`locoast`	`(hey! I'm in Argentina, Manu Ginobili's country!!)`
`03:56.20`	`locoast`	`(just to let you all know)`
`03:56.24`	`shido`	`there's a hit out on him`
`03:56.29`	`shido`	`from us at the "D"`
`03:56.31`	`shido`	`:)`
`03:56.52`	`locoast`	`whos the real MVP!!!!!!????`
`03:57.01`	`locoast`	`i should switch to #nba`
`03:57.02`	`locoast`	`hehe`
`03:57.17`	`locoast`	`noone there!!!`
`03:57.27`	`locoast`	`we're all nerds on freenode`
`03:57.27`	`shido`	`Chauncy Billups`
`03:57.34`	`locoast`	`C'mon`
`03:57.44`	`locoast`	`They lost`
`03:57.58`	`locoast`	`Maybe in game 6`
`03:58.12`	`shido`	`yes the refs will be shot tonight in 6 more minutes`
`03:58.27`	`locoast`	`choose: Timmy D or Manu?`
`03:58.40`	`my007ms`	`when i cat /proc/pci what i have to see to make sure that PC see the card`
`03:59.09`	`locoast`	`007 did you understand what sido and robl told you?`
`03:59.17`	`my007ms`	`yes`
`03:59.19`	`locoast`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.25`	`my007ms`	`but i try this and not work`
`03:59.30`	`locoast`	`ok, so you have 2 options:`
`03:59.37`	`my007ms`	`first ?`
`03:59.40`	`locoast`	`option 1 for 007: drop FC4 and go to RH3`
`04:00.02`	`locoast`	`('cause debian will be probably too dificult for you)`
`04:00.27`	`my007ms`	`i try CentOS`
`04:00.34`	`locoast`	`option 2 for 007: write a script or configure kudzu so it does not try to recognize that card`
`04:00.57`	`locoast`	`option 3 (for free): take out kudzu (if you are not gonna make hardware changes on your system)`
`04:01.00`	`my007ms`	`ok i stop kudzu in start`
`04:01.19`	`locoast`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:01.37`	`shido`	`Timmy? yeah that name fits him`
`04:01.56`	`shido`	`or her -`
`04:02.02`	`locoast`	`hehe`
`04:02.02`	`my007ms`	`i was think that CentOS is like RH3`
`04:02.13`	`my007ms`	`but i have the same in CentOS`
`04:02.17`	`locoast`	`007: take out kudzo`
`04:02.17`	`shido`	`it basically is my007ms`
`04:02.29`	`my007ms`	`i do`
`04:03.53`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Centos is like RHEL . 3 is like RHEL3. 4 is like RHEL4`
`04:04.35`	`Sed[Mac]`	`centos is based off of RHEL`
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`04:07.35`	`robl^`	`centos is built from all the open source bits of RHEL. a "rebuild"`
`04:07.46`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`it doesn't matter what kudzo thinks. Either modprbe for those manually before kudzu starts, or remove kudzu altogether.`
`04:08.00`	`locoast`	`just remoove kudzo`
`04:08.02`	`locoast`	`u`
`04:08.27`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`And while you're at it, do file a bug report, with the output of lspci and lspci -n and the contents of kudzu's database`
`04:08.29`	`my007ms`	`i stop it from start up`
`04:08.31`	`locoast`	`how complicated could it be for a normal C programmer to write the code for MGCP endpoint?`
`04:08.37`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`a bug report to your distro, that is`
`04:09.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`kuzdu's database is somewhere under /etc .`
`04:09.10`	`my007ms`	`but i am not try i need to keep asterisk work if this fail i will have to reinstall FC4 and it take much time`
`04:09.37`	`my007ms`	`i will uninstall this kuzdu`
`04:09.43`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`my007ms, it will take so much time because you reinstall instead of fixing the problem`
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`04:09.53`	`locoast`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:10.31`	`E\|nyPRI_`	`does anyone know when libpri broke outbound callername facility messages?`
`04:11.08`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`E\|nyPRI_, what do you mean? any specific bug on the mantis?`
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`04:11.24`	`E\|nyPRI_`	`well, http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=4046 fixed it. but, I updated to CVS today, and its broken again`
`04:11.40`	`E\|nyPRI_`	`itts back to sending DISPLAY message for callername, instead of Facility`
`04:12.04`	`eth_`	`hi all...`
`04:12.37`	`eth_`	`really appreciate if someone can help me with an IAX trunk issue...`
`04:13.20`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`hi eth_ ..., tried asking your question?`
`04:13.31`	`eth_`	`got X100P installed and configured, but trunk=yes still cause the system to say chan_iax2.c:6480 build_peer: Unable to support trunk ....`
`04:14.18`	`eth_`	`ztcfg shows "Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)"`
`04:16.06`	`Sed[Mac]`	`what does "zap show channels" reveal?`
`04:17.07`	`eth_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:17.08`	`eth_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:17.08`	`eth_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:18.45`	`eth_`	`Linux 2.6...`
`04:19.18`	`eth_`	`Asterisk CVS-v1-0-06/18/05-12:53:08 built by root@xwalk on a i686 running Linux`
`04:20.14`	`shido`	`does your box show ztdummy, too eth_ ?`
`04:20.27`	`eth_`	`you mean lsmod?`
`04:20.33`	`shido`	`yesh`
`04:20.38`	`eth_`	`nope`
`04:20.53`	`eth_`	`did not load ztdummy...`
`04:23.02`	`shido`	`something is screwed`
`04:23.23`	`eth_`	`humm... what could be?!`
`04:23.47`	`eth_`	`maybe i need to run HEAD of asterisk with Linux 2.6.x`
`04:24.28`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I don't think you need ztdummy since you actually have a zaptel card..`
`04:24.30`	`Sed[Mac]`	`Howeverlll`
`04:24.41`	`Sed[Mac]`	`you might.. you might since it seems you have a clone...`
`04:24.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`so load it.. then see if the trunking works for you`
`04:24.58`	`Sed[Mac]`	`unless I'm wrong and someone feels like chiming in :p`
`04:25.01`	`eth_`	`load both wcfxo and ztdummy?`
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`04:25.15`	`shido`	`iax trunking should work with your "clone"`
`04:25.23`	`SarahEmm`	`rehi`
`04:25.26`	`eth_`	`yeah... it is a clone...`
`04:25.29`	`SarahEmm`	`what have ppls experiences with iax.cc been here?`
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`04:27.04`	`eth_`	`loading ztdummy still gives me "chan_iax2.c:6480 build_peer: Unable to support trunking...."`
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`04:27.52`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I dunno... I believe I have trunking on now.. and both machiens have cloens in them.. and it works...`
`04:28.02`	`Sed[Mac]`	`it might be another setting somewhere...`
`04:28.03`	`Sed[Mac]`	`not sure...`
`04:28.07`	`Sed[Mac]`	`have you checked the wiki?`
`04:28.49`	`eth_`	`yeah... not much help on wiki...`
`04:28.57`	`infinity1`	`i have a strange problem. when i set the extension to dial freeworld to 393, it works, but as soon as i change _393 to something else in extensions.conf, i get Call rejected by 65.39.205.121: No such context/extension`
`04:29.06`	`Sed[Mac]`	`ah`
`04:29.21`	`eth_`	`trying the latest HEAD instead of STABLE and see...`
`04:29.25`	`infinity1`	`whats up with that? does freeworld know about the 393 prefix or soemthing strange?`
`04:29.39`	`Sed[Mac]`	`infinity1, no... its something on the dial line...`
`04:29.45`	`Sed[Mac]`	`what are you changing it from.. and then to?`
`04:29.56`	`infinity1`	`i changed it from _393 to _7`
`04:30.19`	`Sed[Mac]`	`it should be something like...`
`04:30.26`	`Sed[Mac]`	`_383.,1,Dial(blah)`
`04:30.34`	`Sed[Mac]`	`actually...`
`04:30.55`	`Sed[Mac]`	`_393.,1,dial(IAX/FWD/{EXTEN:3})`
`04:30.56`	`Sed[Mac]`	`right?`
`04:31.00`	`*** join/#asterisk MrBelvedr (~tt@ip68-227-218-250.dc.dc.cox.net)`
`04:31.03`	`infinity1`	`let me paste the whole line`
`04:31.06`	`Sed[Mac]`	`kk`
`04:31.09`	`Sed[Mac]`	`just that one line tho`
`04:31.10`	`Sed[Mac]`	`:p`
`04:31.36`	`infinity1`	`exten => _7.,1,SetCallerID(${FWDUSERID})`
`04:31.37`	`infinity1`	`exten => _7.,2,Dial(IAX2/${FWDUSERID}:${FWDPASSWORD}@iax2.fwdnet.net/${EXTEN:3},60,r)`
`04:31.48`	`infinity1`	`as soon as i change the _7 to _393. no go.`
`04:31.55`	`infinity1`	`i mean the other way around`
`04:32.03`	`Sed[Mac]`	`ok`
`04:32.05`	`infinity1`	`heh ...if i change the _7 to _393 it works`
`04:32.10`	`Sed[Mac]`	`easy fix :-)`
`04:32.14`	`Sed[Mac]`	`here's why...`
`04:32.20`	`DarthClue`	`infinity1: change the EXTEN:3 to EXTEN:1`
`04:32.24`	`Sed[Mac]`	`see the ${EXTEN:3} on the second line?`
`04:32.31`	`infinity1`	`yea`
`04:32.38`	`Sed[Mac]`	`the :3 means to remove the first three numbers..`
`04:32.48`	`infinity1`	`ah HA!`
`04:32.49`	`Sed[Mac]`	`so since your chaning it to just have one... you need to change it to 1`
`04:32.51`	`Sed[Mac]`	`:p`
`04:33.07`	`infinity1`	`thanks :) ...`
`04:33.09`	`Sed[Mac]`	`because.. say if you dial... 7589476`
`04:33.15`	`Sed[Mac]`	`it actually removes 758`
`04:33.20`	`Sed[Mac]`	`and tries to send 9476`
`04:33.21`	`Sed[Mac]`	`;-)`
`04:33.27`	`infinity1`	`yea. i got it.`
`04:33.30`	`Sed[Mac]`	`ouch!`
`04:33.35`	`Sed[Mac]`	`hey.. I'm trying to teach him!`
`04:33.44`	`infinity1`	`learned something new. yay!`
`04:33.58`	`infinity1`	`now i'll see if i can receive a fwd call`
`04:34.21`	`Sed[Mac]`	`hehe`
`04:34.23`	`DarthClue`	`I know. And that's good, cause I'm pretty sure he has been working at it for a few hours now.`
`04:34.29`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`04:34.51`	`infinity1`	`i've been screwin with * all day today.`
`04:34.54`	`*** join/#asterisk my007 (~my007ms@217.139.236.108)`
`04:35.01`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I know when I first started with *.. some things really got the better of me.. and looking back its like "Doh!"`
`04:35.03`	`my007`	`HI`
`04:35.04`	`Sed[Mac]`	`:(`
`04:35.06`	`Sed[Mac]`	`hi`
`04:39.12`	`infinity1`	`i have a question about 'best practices'`
`04:39.21`	`infinity1`	`so ..after this line, what should follow it ? exten => _7.,3,Dial(IAX2/${FWDUSERID}:${FWDPASSWORD}@iax2.fwdnet.net/${EXTEN:1},60,r)`
`04:39.31`	`infinity1`	`it seems many things can follow.`
`04:40.00`	`infinity1`	`congestion, playback(invalid), nothing ...?`
`04:40.08`	`infinity1`	`and they all work similarly.`
`04:40.16`	`Sed[Mac]`	`normally.. if your set the things.. then you have the actual dial command`
`04:40.27`	`Sed[Mac]`	`you want the fall backs.. like the congestion...`
`04:40.33`	`Sed[Mac]`	`or if its a persons extention`
`04:40.43`	`Sed[Mac]`	`you'll want voicemail for no pickup and voicemail for busy... etc..`
`04:41.20`	`infinity1`	`it seemed to work best if i add the playback, and then hangup`
`04:41.35`	`infinity1`	`but i duno what the correct thing is really.`
`04:41.50`	`Sed[Mac]`	`for my fwd....`
`04:42.02`	`Sed[Mac]`	`hold.. let me check`
`04:42.03`	`infinity1`	`lemme try again :)`
`04:42.44`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I have pri of 1,2, and 3`
`04:42.54`	`Sed[Mac]`	`set caller id... the dial.. and congestion...`
`04:42.56`	`Sed[Mac]`	`thats it`
`04:43.18`	`infinity1`	`if i put congestions i get 'the person you are calling is unavailable' ..which doesn't sound like the right response when i dial a bogus #`
`04:43.45`	`Sed[Mac]`	`look on the CLI.. see if its actually playing the congestion...`
`04:43.46`	`Sed[Mac]`	`it might..`
`04:43.48`	`infinity1`	`but if i put playback invalid, hangup, it makes more sense.`
`04:43.55`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I've never actually hit a congestion that I know of`
`04:44.08`	`infinity1`	`what is a congestion?`
`04:44.34`	`Sed[Mac]`	`not really sure myself :p I would assume the server being unreachable.. or the person being unreachable.. hence unavailable`
`04:45.35`	`infinity1`	`heh. well, if yer bored, try the different optiosn. i'm going to leave it with playback/hangup.`
`04:46.00`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`04:46.03`	`infinity1`	`at least it makes sense from the user side.`
`04:46.05`	`Sed[Mac]`	`its personal preference :p`
`04:46.52`	`infinity1`	`try it different ways and watch the log messages. very different, which is strange to me.`
`04:47.31`	`infinity1`	`do you have a fwd # i can call ya on? heh`
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`04:50.28`	`Sed[Mac]`	`you can try the IVR I have setup.. but I can't talk on the phone right now`
`04:52.02`	`infinity1`	`can i try your ivr then?`
`04:52.16`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yea.. 589476`
`04:52.40`	`Sed[Mac]`	`just to let you know.. if you hit sales or tech.. it will ring my phone.. and the other dudes phone.. soo :pp`
`04:54.06`	`infinity1`	`so i wont do it .`
`04:54.24`	`mrplum`	`I'm trying to get my fxo card to pick up and I can't determine if it's working or not. It dials the interface and it says someone answers and it sits there, but I don't see anything happen on the phone line. is there a way I can manually issue the card AT commands to go off the hook?`
`04:54.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`hehe`
`04:54.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`but there are other options and it tells you`
`04:54.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`so.. you can call it.. and it'll say "welcome" and the other fun stuff..`
`04:55.11`	`Sed[Mac]`	`what do you mean?`
`04:55.16`	`Sed[Mac]`	`trying to dial into the card.. or from it?`
`04:55.29`	`mrplum`	`I'm trying to dial out of the card`
`04:55.48`	`Sed[Mac]`	`ok.. so what happens when you dial it?`
`04:56.05`	`Sed[Mac]`	`should come up on the console saying like "dailing zap <blah>`
`04:56.06`	`Sed[Mac]`	`"`
`04:56.09`	`Sed[Mac]`	`Idunno.. I've had to look`
`04:56.09`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`04:56.12`	`infinity1`	`smartserv hosting. hm`
`04:56.25`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yup`
`04:56.34`	`mrplum`	`not even dial, I just want it to go off the hook. I don't have a phone line so I setup a power supply to give it some loop current, but i never see the phone go off the hook when it tries to dial`
`04:56.45`	`infinity1`	`whos voice?`
`04:56.50`	`mrplum`	`I see it dial, I see it says answered ( I assume it answers cause I'm in immediate mode)`
`04:57.00`	`Sed[Mac]`	`it was some text to wav thing`
`04:57.13`	`infinity1`	`wow. not bad.`
`04:57.15`	`Sed[Mac]`	`mrplum, ah, I'm not sure about that kinda thing...`
`04:57.34`	`infinity1`	`was that your voice when i asked for more information (3)`
`04:57.46`	`Sed[Mac]`	`no.. that was the owners actually... Jeremy`
`04:58.01`	`mrplum`	`all it's gotta do is go off the hook and complete the circuit, this is being WAY to difficult.`
`04:58.01`	`Sed[Mac]`	`the other guys phone you woulda rung if you picked one of the supports :p`
`04:58.17`	`Sed[Mac]`	`why are you trying to do this tho if you don't have a phone line?`
`04:58.36`	`mrplum`	`I'm too cheap to buy an FXS card`
`04:58.52`	`Sed[Mac]`	`so your trying to turn it into a fxs?`
`04:59.07`	`mrplum`	`not exactly, it won't ring my phone`
`04:59.18`	`mrplum`	`all I want to do is verify my modem works atm`
`04:59.35`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yea.. and you can't ping it up and get a dialtone or dial numbers either`
`04:59.43`	`Sed[Mac]`	`umm`
`05:00.10`	`Sed[Mac]`	`well.. if its just a dialup modem.. you should just be able to dial.. and it should say like "no dialtone" or actually dial, and if you stick aphone on it you can hear it`
`05:00.25`	`mrplum`	`okay i'll switch the mode see if that helps`
`05:00.43`	`infinity1`	`hm. fwd doesnt want to call me. jerks.`
`05:01.31`	`Sed[Mac]`	`huh?`
`05:01.37`	`infinity1`	`can someone try dialing me? i'm not getting any traffic even after doing a register in iax.conf`
`05:01.40`	`infinity1`	`671223`
`05:01.45`	`Sed[Mac]`	`mrplum, I'm still not totally sure on what your trying to do :p`
`05:01.49`	`Sed[Mac]`	`but eh`
`05:01.56`	`mrplum`	`I just want my modem to attempt to dial`
`05:01.57`	`Sed[Mac]`	`infinity1, hold on...`
`05:02.02`	`infinity1`	`Sed[Mac]: thanks.`
`05:02.05`	`mrplum`	`pick up the line, and send some dtmf tones`
`05:02.08`	`Sed[Mac]`	`the fxo.. or a actual modem?`
`05:02.13`	`mrplum`	`well it's an x100 fxo`
`05:02.21`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yea...`
`05:02.21`	`mrplum`	`just a softmodem though isn't it?`
`05:02.30`	`Sed[Mac]`	`pretty much`
`05:02.57`	`my007`	`someone good softphone SIP work in linux`
`05:02.59`	`Sed[Mac]`	`if you want it to dial.. you should just be able to hook a phone to it and hear the dtmf tones being sent from *`
`05:03.42`	`SarahEmm`	`err, not afik`
`05:03.44`	`SarahEmm`	`you need power on the line`
`05:03.49`	`SarahEmm`	`the modem's not going to supply it, nor is the phone`
`05:03.55`	`mrplum`	`I have power on the line ;)`
`05:04.00`	`SarahEmm`	`9v bttery?`
`05:04.07`	`mrplum`	`err 15V supply actually`
`05:04.09`	`SarahEmm`	`'kay`
`05:04.13`	`SarahEmm`	`what's the issue then?`
`05:04.20`	`mrplum`	`I can't get my modem to go off the hook`
`05:04.26`	`SarahEmm`	`oh, wait... it's going to detect a RED alarm until you get a real line on it`
`05:04.29`	`mrplum`	`even in dialtone mode it's dialing, and saying answered`
`05:04.32`	`SarahEmm`	`(i dunno what it uses to say 'that's a line'`
`05:04.43`	`SarahEmm`	`oh, you're using it as a regular modem?`
`05:04.56`	`mrplum`	`well i made an extension in asterisk to Dial(Zap/1)`
`05:05.07`	`mrplum`	`and it dials, and it answers :)`
`05:05.08`	`SarahEmm`	`err`
`05:05.12`	`SarahEmm`	`but that's no dtmf`
`05:05.18`	`SarahEmm`	`do Zap/1/123123123123`
`05:05.26`	`mrplum`	`err the line actually has exten in it`
`05:05.29`	`SarahEmm`	`oh.`
`05:05.36`	`infinity1`	`my god. jumped through the ceiling ...damn head phones.`
`05:05.39`	`mrplum`	`- Executing Dial("IAX2/matt@matt/8", "Zap/1/666") in new stack`
`05:05.41`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`05:05.43`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: what's the issue then?`
`05:05.43`	`Sed[Mac]`	`sorry`
`05:05.47`	`mrplum`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:05.48`	`infinity1`	`np.`
`05:05.50`	`my007`	`someone know good softphone SIP work in linux`
`05:05.53`	`mrplum`	`it doesn't really go off the hook`
`05:05.58`	`mrplum`	`I see no current flow through the loop`
`05:05.58`	`infinity1`	`good to know fwd's call back service doesnt work and its not me.`
`05:06.03`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: if you run zttool, is it detecting a RED alarm?`
`05:06.20`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I have problems with their service`
`05:06.23`	`Sed[Mac]`	`like if you call the one number`
`05:06.29`	`Sed[Mac]`	`it doesn't read back my CID`
`05:06.37`	`mrplum`	`no alarms`
`05:06.37`	`Sed[Mac]`	`so if it doesn't.. I would assume callback doesn't`
`05:06.58`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: hrm, okay....`
`05:07.08`	`infinity1`	`the callback thing is via their website.`
`05:07.11`	`Sed[Mac]`	`anyway.. I'm here.. but floating.. gotta clean my room`
`05:07.12`	`SarahEmm`	`and you're sure the power is hooked up right?`
`05:07.12`	`Sed[Mac]`	`oo ok`
`05:07.15`	`infinity1`	`duno.`
`05:07.20`	`infinity1`	`l8. thanks for all the tips.`
`05:07.26`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yup`
`05:07.41`	`mrplum`	`pretty confident yes`
`05:08.11`	`mrplum`	`I would think I have something setup wrong if asterisk detects someone answering the line`
`05:08.23`	`SarahEmm`	`it assumes an answer as soon as it finishes dialling`
`05:08.30`	`SarahEmm`	`as it has no way to know with the x100p when the other end is answered`
`05:08.50`	`mrplum`	`oh`
`05:08.50`	`mrplum`	`hah`
`05:09.07`	`mrplum`	`lemme double check everything again`
`05:13.56`	`mrplum`	`it's all good, I don't undestand it`
`05:14.42`	`mrplum`	`I don't really understand why the x100p can't detect if the other end answers either, that's kinda crappy`
`05:15.20`	`X-Rob`	`it doesn't understand polarity, that's why`
`05:15.23`	`X-Rob`	`the TDMs do.`
`05:16.03`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh`
`05:16.08`	`SarahEmm`	`it detects polarity reversals tho`
`05:16.20`	`X-Rob`	`the x100's do?`
`05:16.21`	`X-Rob`	`blink`
`05:16.23`	`SarahEmm`	`err`
`05:16.26`	`X-Rob`	`I thought they didn't.`
`05:16.26`	`SarahEmm`	`they're kewlstart, no?`
`05:16.30`	`mrplum`	`ztmonitor I here it dial!`
`05:16.32`	`mrplum`	`kewlstart yep`
`05:16.38`	`SarahEmm`	`yep, they are`
`05:16.46`	`SarahEmm`	`so they detect polarity reversal for disconnect supervision`
`05:17.12`	`X-Rob`	`http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2004-August/005898.html`
`05:18.02`	`X-Rob`	`with the 100s you need progress detection and disconnect supervision`
`05:18.11`	`X-Rob`	`eg, audio`
`05:18.23`	`SarahEmm`	`err`
`05:18.27`	`shido`	`hehe`
`05:18.32`	`shido`	`good to see ppl getting things to work`
`05:18.33`	`SarahEmm`	`disonnect supervision is polarity reversal tho`
`05:18.43`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh....`
`05:18.46`	`SarahEmm`	`confused`
`05:18.53`	`SarahEmm`	`what's kewlstart then?`
`05:19.08`	`X-Rob`	`disconnect supervision is monitoring the line to see if hears a busy or 'other end has hung up'`
`05:19.15`	`X-Rob`	`noise, whatever that may be`
`05:19.24`	`X-Rob`	`ks is polarity reversal`
`05:19.28`	`SarahEmm`	`okay.. our telco calls the polarity reversal that`
`05:19.29`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh`
`05:19.36`	`SarahEmm`	`but digium calls the x100p 'kewlstart supporting'`
`05:19.43`	`X-Rob`	`Wierd.`
`05:19.55`	`SarahEmm`	`yeah`
`05:20.04`	`X-Rob`	`Well. When _I_ tried it with an X100, it never mentioned anything about polarity`
`05:20.04`	`SarahEmm`	`i'll test it tomrorrow`
`05:20.16`	`X-Rob`	`with my TDMs I get notified about polarity`
`05:20.20`	`SarahEmm`	`ahh`
`05:20.46`	`SarahEmm`	`i'm not convinced VoIP is going to work with slow speed data tho.. we'll see.`
`05:21.12`	`X-Rob`	`'slow speed data'?`
`05:21.18`	`SarahEmm`	`tty`
`05:21.27`	`X-Rob`	`aah yeah, your blind stuff.`
`05:21.30`	`SarahEmm`	`i can't find much about running it over VoIP connections`
`05:21.32`	`SarahEmm`	`blind stuff?`
`05:21.45`	`X-Rob`	`stuff for blind people`
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`05:21.47`	`SarahEmm`	`err`
`05:21.55`	`X-Rob`	`deaf even`
`05:21.57`	`SarahEmm`	`blind people generally would have an easier time using voice telephones over TTYs ;)`
`05:22.10`	`X-Rob`	`OK. I admit I'm stupid 8)`
`05:22.17`	`SarahEmm`	`pondering signing up with iax.cc (sixtel) and testing it`
`05:22.35`	`Sed[Mac]`	`SarahEmm, the other thing.. some places.. I forget who.. they offer free 5 mins a month`
`05:22.38`	`Sed[Mac]`	`you could use them to test`
`05:22.42`	`SarahEmm`	`ahh`
`05:22.55`	`SarahEmm`	`i see no basic reason it shouldn't work, with ulaw/alaw..`
`05:23.22`	`Sed[Mac]`	`as long as you have the internet connection for it`
`05:23.28`	`SarahEmm`	`3mb/768k`
`05:23.35`	`SarahEmm`	`should be ok ;)`
`05:23.36`	`Sed[Mac]`	`guess so then :p`
`05:23.44`	`X-Rob`	`before you get too enthusiastic`
`05:23.45`	`Sed[Mac]`	`mine's like 5/400`
`05:23.48`	`SarahEmm`	`and my firewall does QoS too so..`
`05:23.50`	`X-Rob`	`you might wanna read about fax-over-ip`
`05:23.57`	`SarahEmm`	`X-Rob: fax is 9600 or 14400`
`05:23.58`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yea.. I was just thinking that..`
`05:23.58`	`X-Rob`	`and why it doesn't work`
`05:24.01`	`Sed[Mac]`	`wouldn't it be the same thing`
`05:24.01`	`SarahEmm`	`X-Rob: TTY is 45bps`
`05:24.06`	`Sed[Mac]`	`ooo`
`05:24.11`	`X-Rob`	`fax is 4800bps @ 600 baud`
`05:24.16`	`X-Rob`	`and up from there`
`05:24.19`	`SarahEmm`	`oky...`
`05:24.23`	`SarahEmm`	`tty is 45bps @ 45bud`
`05:24.24`	`SarahEmm`	`+a`
`05:24.38`	`Sed[Mac]`	`seems slow...`
`05:24.42`	`SarahEmm`	`heh`
`05:24.45`	`SarahEmm`	`it is :P`
`05:24.46`	`Sed[Mac]`	`for what its doing...`
`05:24.47`	`X-Rob`	`ok, so , 45 state changes per second.`
`05:24.52`	`SarahEmm`	`there's a few faster protocols now`
`05:24.55`	`SarahEmm`	`but that's the standard one`
`05:25.21`	`X-Rob`	`Depending on the codec, um, 20-30 packets per second?`
`05:25.24`	`SarahEmm`	`X-Rob: yeah. 1400Hz/1800Hz FSK, 5bit data 1stop bit`
`05:25.33`	`X-Rob`	`It may work`
`05:25.38`	`X-Rob`	`but I wouldn't be relying on it`
`05:25.41`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`05:25.51`	`X-Rob`	`What would be far funkier`
`05:25.58`	`X-Rob`	`would be to make spandsp understand it`
`05:26.05`	`SarahEmm`	`spandsp?`
`05:26.26`	`X-Rob`	`and convert it to ascii, stream it via TCP, and then reassemble it into an audio stream at the other end`
`05:26.32`	`SarahEmm`	`yeah`
`05:26.32`	`X-Rob`	`spandsp == fax`
`05:26.33`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`05:26.36`	`SarahEmm`	`well that's what i'm doing here, basically`
`05:26.37`	`X-Rob`	`software fax`
`05:26.41`	`SarahEmm`	`i connect to the * box through a web interface`
`05:26.53`	`SarahEmm`	`i type, it goes over my network by ASCII, goes out over the FXO interface getting converted to audio at the * box`
`05:27.12`	`SarahEmm`	`s#ascii#tcp/ip#`
`05:27.48`	`X-Rob`	`where is the 45bps tty in this?`
`05:27.57`	`*** join/#asterisk MichaelSaunders (~mick@202.22.163.103)`
`05:28.10`	`SarahEmm`	`X-Rob: the * box receives the text via TCP, and transmits the audio over the FXO interface out`
`05:28.15`	`SarahEmm`	`(audio being the TTY signal)`
`05:28.36`	`MichaelSaunders`	`Trying to get asterisk to connect to mysql for realtime it keeps failing to connect and tells me to refer to debug where do I find this debug`
`05:28.37`	`X-Rob`	`I'm trying to figure out where the actual 45bps tones are being generated`
`05:28.42`	`SarahEmm`	`X-Rob: by *`
`05:28.47`	`X-Rob`	`how?`
`05:28.52`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh... C code?`
`05:28.57`	`SarahEmm`	`i'm not sure i understand the question`
`05:29.06`	`X-Rob`	`So you're using a software modem, there's no hardware here at all?`
`05:29.13`	`SarahEmm`	`the only hardware is the x100p right now`
`05:29.16`	`MichaelSaunders`	`Trying to fimd the debud`
`05:29.20`	`SarahEmm`	`there are hardware TTY modems, but i'm not using one for this.`
`05:29.26`	`X-Rob`	`Michael - /var/log/asterisk/full ?`
`05:29.42`	`X-Rob`	`What program are you using to generate the tty tones?`
`05:29.50`	`SarahEmm`	`X-Rob: Asterisk :P`
`05:30.00`	`X-Rob`	`How?`
`05:30.01`	`X-Rob`	`Ok`
`05:30.04`	`X-Rob`	`what _module_ are you using?`
`05:30.10`	`SarahEmm`	`setting the 'ttymode' option on the channel`
`05:30.15`	`SarahEmm`	`then using sendtext to send text to it`
`05:30.27`	`SarahEmm`	`it's built into *, just rarely used`
`05:30.42`	`SarahEmm`	`at least, i'm guessing rarely used 'cuz there's a fair number of bugs in it i've been working on heh`
`05:30.54`	`X-Rob`	`I can't even find it documented anywhere`
`05:31.04`	`SarahEmm`	`it barely is`
`05:31.13`	`SarahEmm`	`sift through the code ;)`
`05:31.27`	`SarahEmm`	`it's not well documented and didn't work terribly well`
`05:31.39`	`SarahEmm`	`the latter is slowly being improved as i'm trying to write apps using it, and fixing bugs as i go`
`05:31.58`	`X-Rob`	`editline/tty.c mentions 'ttymode' but that's for termcap stuff.`
`05:32.11`	`SarahEmm`	`/tty.c`
`05:32.14`	`SarahEmm`	`no subdit`
`05:32.16`	`SarahEmm`	`err wait!`
`05:32.20`	`SarahEmm`	`sorry, asterisk calls it TDD not TTY`
`05:32.25`	`X-Rob`	`ahha`
`05:32.26`	`SarahEmm`	`both terms are used in north america`
`05:32.35`	`SarahEmm`	`i call it TTY 'cuz.. well, most people do`
`05:32.40`	`SarahEmm`	`TDD is inaccurate :P`
`05:33.18`	`X-Rob`	`Hrm. OK.`
`05:33.38`	`*** join/#asterisk my007ms (~my007ms@217.139.236.108)`
`05:33.39`	`SarahEmm`	`sowwy for being confusing :)`
`05:33.43`	`SarahEmm`	`forgot * calls it something else`
`05:33.54`	`X-Rob`	`fskmodem!`
`05:34.12`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`05:34.38`	`SarahEmm`	`nods simple slow fsk software modem.`
`05:34.57`	`X-Rob`	`Funky.`
`05:35.18`	`SarahEmm`	`in HEAD it works pretty well :)`
`05:35.31`	`X-Rob`	`I haven't noticed any patches for it come through`
`05:35.40`	`SarahEmm`	`there've been.. two so far, iirc`
`05:35.44`	`X-Rob`	`but I'm guessign they're buried in mantis somewhere 8)`
`05:35.46`	`SarahEmm`	`that have actually gone through`
`05:35.48`	`SarahEmm`	`nods`
`05:35.49`	`X-Rob`	`Woo`
`05:35.51`	`X-Rob`	`Yay you.`
`05:35.54`	`SarahEmm`	`i've got another 2 that'll go through next week hopefully`
`05:36.03`	`SarahEmm`	`:)`
`05:36.14`	`SarahEmm`	`i wanna get * rolled out at home, it'd be Really Nifty if i could get all this working`
`05:37.17`	`*** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (anonymous@soveliss.luniac.com)`
`05:37.30`	`X-Rob`	`Well, I see the problem.`
`05:37.36`	`shido`	`ZzZZZz`
`05:37.37`	`X-Rob`	`That's gunna be quite interesting to work on`
`05:37.53`	`X-Rob`	`But, you've got a fair whack of leeway at 45aud`
`05:37.54`	`X-Rob`	`baud`
`05:38.04`	`SarahEmm`	`nods`
`05:38.07`	`SarahEmm`	`what's the problems you see?`
`05:38.11`	`SarahEmm`	`(wow, that's good english)`
`05:38.26`	`X-Rob`	`trying to support taht over a voip channel is gunna be fun 8)`
`05:38.52`	`SarahEmm`	`heh`
`05:38.55`	`*** join/#asterisk my007ms (~my007ms@217.139.236.108)`
`05:38.58`	`SarahEmm`	`shrug we'll see ;)`
`05:39.05`	`mrplum`	`Is there a way to get my x100p to do some kind of alarm? I want to see it do anything at all to show me it's semi working`
`05:39.12`	`SarahEmm`	`unplug it from the phone line`
`05:39.16`	`mrplum`	`did that`
`05:39.19`	`SarahEmm`	`zttool (on mine anyway) will show a RED alarm`
`05:39.21`	`mrplum`	`still no alarms`
`05:39.24`	`mrplum`	`sigh`
`05:39.34`	`*** join/#asterisk PoWeRKiLL (~PoWeRKiLL@l02v-5-125.d4.club-internet.fr)`
`05:40.04`	`X-Rob`	`sounds like a dead X100`
`05:40.05`	`mrplum`	`it's the "new design of x100p" board.`
`05:40.10`	`*** join/#asterisk jonas (jonas@jonas.probe-networks.host.freenode)`
`05:40.13`	`mrplum`	`from eBay`
`05:40.17`	`X-Rob`	`go to ebay and buy another. They're like $7 or so`
`05:41.14`	`SarahEmm`	`or get a TDM400p :)`
`05:42.01`	`Sed[Mac]`	`mrplum, do you have a phoneline you could actually plug it into and see if it works?`
`05:42.08`	`mrplum`	`I wish`
`05:42.16`	`mrplum`	`nope though`
`05:42.30`	`Sed[Mac]`	`got a friend? take it to his house :po`
`05:42.43`	`Sed[Mac]`	`just thinking if you could see if its good before you get another one and find it still doesn't work`
`05:43.07`	`mrplum`	`yea I'll futz with this for another couple weeks before I give up on it.`
`05:43.13`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`05:43.57`	`Sed[Mac]`	`does any of the (alive) mac people happen to know how much a slot loading 500mhz imac g3 memory can support?`
`05:44.08`	`mrplum`	`the boards are pretty bare, not much to them. I bet it's the custom wcfxo drivers, i'll email the address in the comments see if he has any suggestions`
`05:44.12`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I saw the slot loading on apple's support is only 512.. but I'm not sure when this is...`
`05:44.19`	`Sed[Mac]`	`hehe`
`05:44.31`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yea.. its a softmodem.. everything done in the cpu`
`05:44.55`	`MichaelSaunders`	`can someone explain to me dundi. I think I understand but I just want clarifications`
`05:45.10`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: err, if you have no phoneline, what are you doing with it?`
`05:46.16`	`X-Rob`	`mrplum 'custom wcfxo' drivers?`
`05:46.32`	`X-Rob`	`if it doesn't work with the standard wcfxo driver, it's not an X100p`
`05:46.41`	`X-Rob`	`it's something else. And the odds are, it sucks.`
`05:46.41`	`mrplum`	`well it's not really, afaik`
`05:47.05`	`Sed[Mac]`	`did you get it off ebay?`
`05:47.39`	`mrplum`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61841&item=5784349886&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW`
`05:47.43`	`mrplum`	`it's a "clone"`
`05:48.36`	`X-Rob`	`Hurm.`
`05:48.43`	`X-Rob`	`I think you've bought a lemon`
`05:48.46`	`X-Rob`	`Ask him for help`
`05:48.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`This card needs a separate zaptel driver which is`
`05:48.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`delivered along with the card. Since the board is a newer design it needs a diffrent software`
`05:48.47`	`Sed[Mac]`	`driver for it to function.v`
`05:48.52`	`X-Rob`	`and if that doens't work, consider your $20 wasted`
`05:49.11`	`Sed[Mac]`	`if you remove the battery.. does it atleast red-alarm?`
`05:50.23`	`mrplum`	`no`
`05:50.31`	`Sed[Mac]`	`something isn't right then`
`05:50.41`	`Sed[Mac]`	`on my fxo.. soon as I remove the line.. it red's`
`05:50.42`	`mrplum`	`I unpluged the cable from the modem, no alarm, then I shorted the cable out and could here myself talk on the phone side`
`05:50.42`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: uhh.. what driver?`
`05:51.00`	`SarahEmm`	`what chipset is it`
`05:51.01`	`SarahEmm`	`?`
`05:51.03`	`Sed[Mac]`	`SarahEmm, apparently the dude sent seperate drivers for it`
`05:51.11`	`Sed[Mac]`	`whats the output of lspci`
`05:51.12`	`Sed[Mac]`	`:p`
`05:51.53`	`SarahEmm`	`hrm.. that doesn't sound very good`
`05:52.08`	`mrplum`	`Modem: Motorola: Unknown device 3052 (rev 04)`
`05:52.17`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh`
`05:52.18`	`SarahEmm`	`motorola?`
`05:52.21`	`Sed[Mac]`	`and thats the only 'modem' in the system?`
`05:52.26`	`mrplum`	`yes the chip on the board is motorola`
`05:52.26`	`X-Rob`	`should be tigerjet`
`05:52.32`	`Sed[Mac]`	`yea...`
`05:52.33`	`SarahEmm`	`that's very nonstandard then, all the supported ones are intel or such`
`05:52.40`	`Sed[Mac]`	`here.. let me find the dude I got my card from`
`05:52.42`	`SarahEmm`	`i'd give up on that and get a 'real' 'clone' :P`
`05:52.43`	`mrplum`	`this is what I get for buying cheap :)`
`05:52.52`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: $20 is a lot for one of those.`
`05:52.58`	`SarahEmm`	`'real clones' are cheaper than that`
`05:52.59`	`mrplum`	`really??`
`05:52.59`	`SarahEmm`	`and work`
`05:52.59`	`X-Rob`	`http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61841&item=5785004290&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW`
`05:53.04`	`X-Rob`	`$10`
`05:53.06`	`mrplum`	`I paid $12 + s/h`
`05:53.12`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: i paid like $10 + s/h`
`05:53.14`	`SarahEmm`	`and it works :)`
`05:53.17`	`mrplum`	`UGH!!!`
`05:53.41`	`X-Rob`	`that looks _Exactly_ the same as the 100p's I was playing with`
`05:53.52`	`mrplum`	`:)`
`05:53.57`	`mrplum`	`thanks for that link`
`05:53.58`	`SarahEmm`	`X-Rob: same s the one i have too`
`05:54.08`	`mrplum`	`and thanks for the help, I bought a really lame card.`
`05:54.10`	`SarahEmm`	`i've never tried passing voice through it, but works well for tty/tdd traffic`
`05:54.55`	`Sed[Mac]`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61841&item=5785004290&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVWv`
`05:55.05`	`Sed[Mac]`	`thats the dude I bought mine from`
`05:55.10`	`Sed[Mac]`	`actually.. got two from him`
`05:55.14`	`mrplum`	`http://www.asterisk-x100p.com/wcfxo2.tgz <- if your curious, dunno what's so special about it`
`05:55.16`	`Sed[Mac]`	`both work perfect.. same card too (from the pic anyway)`
`05:55.32`	`mrplum`	`comes with all kinds of warnings, don't use unless bought this board of ebay, although the board don't work!`
`05:56.03`	`Sed[Mac]`	`Hmm`
`05:56.07`	`Sed[Mac]`	`might be hacked drivers`
`05:56.10`	`Sed[Mac]`	`it might only work for dialing out`
`05:56.12`	`Sed[Mac]`	`dunno...`
`05:56.28`	`Sed[Mac]`	`but yea.. do yourself a favor and get a "real clone" (like that isn't a oxymoron....)(`
`05:56.43`	`SarahEmm`	`heh`
`05:59.24`	`r0d3nt`	`i've used a "clone" FXO pci card.. which came with it's "own" drivers .....`
`05:59.27`	`X-Rob`	`Woah`
`05:59.34`	`X-Rob`	`That driver has all the battery stuff taken out of it`
`05:59.37`	`X-Rob`	`no wonder it doesn't work`
`05:59.46`	`r0d3nt`	`HOWEVER .. the asterisk drivers and software was completely compatible...`
`05:59.48`	`X-Rob`	`I'm doing a diff on it against the normal wcfxo.c`
`05:59.53`	`mrplum`	`heh`
`05:59.57`	`X-Rob`	`so that's why you're not getting a red alarm`
`05:59.59`	`mrplum`	`maybe I should try the regular drivers`
`06:00.10`	`SarahEmm`	`nice X-Rob`
`06:00.12`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: won't work`
`06:00.14`	`Sed[Mac]`	`I dunno if it'll work...`
`06:00.17`	`SarahEmm`	`mrplum: motorola chipsets aren't supported`
`06:00.21`	`Sed[Mac]`	`the normal only supports intel`
`06:00.22`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`06:00.22`	`SarahEmm`	`it won't even load, as the PCI ID doesn't match`
`06:00.27`	`Sed[Mac]`	`great minds think alike`
`06:01.01`	`mrplum`	`eh, what can you do.`
`06:03.07`	`X-Rob`	`You can try using the cvs head zaptel driver`
`06:03.11`	`X-Rob`	`but no guarantees that it'll work`
`06:03.51`	`X-Rob`	`edit around line 979 of wcfxo.c`
`06:04.11`	`X-Rob`	`add the PCI ID (from 'lspci -n') and try '&generic'`
`06:04.37`	`X-Rob`	`but I'm 99% sure it will either crash the machine or just not work`
`06:04.56`	`mrplum`	`:)`
`06:05.12`	`Sed[Mac]`	`lol`
`06:08.45`	`SarahEmm`	`hehe`
`06:09.17`	`SarahEmm`	`i go sleepies, nini`
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`06:16.54`	`Sed[Mac]`	`and I'm off too`
`06:16.55`	`Sed[Mac]`	`night`
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`06:22.10`	`tzafrir`	`r0d3nt, which "clone" exactly? what drivers?`
`06:22.26`	`X-Rob`	`tzafrir, it's a motorolla chipset.`
`06:22.42`	`X-Rob`	`drivers from http://www.asterisk-x100p.com/wcfxo2.tgz`
`06:23.53`	`X-Rob`	`I honestly don't know why someone would bother to go to all the hassle to hack on the wcfxo drivers, compile their own closed-source kernel core driver, when you can buy standard, working, x100's for US$10.`
`06:24.25`	`my007ms`	`as i have many mahy problem with FC4 in zaptel TDM31B i will install deb any one have something to say`
`06:24.43`	`my007ms`	`i never used deb b4`
`06:24.44`	`mrplum`	`heh`
`06:24.45`	`X-Rob`	`I have something to say: Wibble.`
`06:24.52`	`X-Rob`	`Mandrake 10.1 is good.`
`06:24.53`	`mrplum`	`I wish I knew better, just ordered 2 of those $10 cards`
`06:24.54`	`X-Rob`	`nice and stable`
`06:24.58`	`X-Rob`	`up to date.`
`06:25.04`	`mrplum`	`and I don't even have a phone line hehehe`
`06:25.22`	`X-Rob`	`tzafrir, quite possibly. I didn't bother strings-ing the binary`
`06:25.33`	`mrplum`	`I have some ideas of what to do with that card on 4th of july`
`06:26.22`	`X-Rob`	`Hrm, nope, there's no obvious GPL code in there`
`06:26.25`	`X-Rob`	`it's only 4k`
`06:26.27`	`X-Rob`	`so it's not huge`
`06:26.47`	`my007ms`	`what does OS that X-Rob used?`
`06:27.06`	`X-Rob`	`my, I use a whole pile. I do documentation for Asterisk MAnagement Portal.`
`06:27.13`	`X-Rob`	`So, lots.`
`06:27.19`	`X-Rob`	`But, as I said, Mandrake 10.1 is good.`
`06:33.05`	`tzafrir`	`X-Rob, I believe that this thing is a GPL violation. But if you want to be sure, as Digium: they're the only ones able to sue, anyway`
`06:33.43`	`X-Rob`	`tzafrir, why would it be a GPL violation?`
`06:33.58`	`X-Rob`	`There's a '-core' module, but it doesn't seem to contain any GPL code`
`06:34.57`	`tzafrir`	`But it is linked with a GPLed code.`
`06:35.48`	`X-Rob`	`Ooh`
`06:35.49`	`X-Rob`	`indeed it is.`
`06:36.10`	`X-Rob`	`ld -r wcfxo2-core.o wcfxo2-module.o -o wcfxo2-helper.o`
`06:36.10`	`X-Rob`	`g`
`06:36.13`	`X-Rob`	`lookit that!`
`06:36.42`	`tzafrir`	`what does it mean?`
`06:36.58`	`X-Rob`	`that's linking with digium's GPL'ed code`
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`06:42.49`	`my007ms`	`what is command like rpm -q in deb`
`06:42.49`	`my007ms`	`?`
`06:43.06`	`my007ms`	`hello`
`06:43.09`	`mrplum`	`hi`
`06:43.14`	`mrplum`	`what's -q do`
`06:43.30`	`mrplum`	`I don't appear to have that option in my rpm --help command`
`06:43.41`	`mrplum`	`oh query... try apt-cache search`
`06:44.00`	`my007ms`	`i need to know if one deb like in fc and rh rpm -q <name>`
`06:44.25`	`mrplum`	`my007ms, right, that last line was to you`
`06:51.11`	`X-Rob`	`I just posted to asterisk-dev about that card.`
`06:51.15`	`X-Rob`	`they may or may not care.`
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`07:00.36`	`RoyK`	`morning`
`07:01.11`	`mrplum`	`good morning`
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`07:04.12`	`infinity1`	`yea. i guess. 4 after midnight`
`07:04.15`	`infinity1`	`morning :)`
`07:04.23`	`BleedingMe`	`mornin'`
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`07:04.44`	`infinity1`	`so now i can dial out.`
`07:04.58`	`infinity1`	`and iax2 is now qos-ified`
`07:05.10`	`BleedingMe`	`i'm still working on the dialing in stuff :)`
`07:05.17`	`infinity1`	`fuckin menus, queus, agents. oh my!`
`07:05.54`	`infinity1`	`BleedingMe: get on fwd and we can talk. i finally got mine to work.`
`07:06.29`	`X-Rob`	`47876`
`07:06.40`	`X-Rob`	`feel free to call me, un, dial 306 when answered`
`07:06.52`	`X-Rob`	`the answering thing is screwed.`
`07:06.55`	`X-Rob`	`I prolly should fix that`
`07:07.11`	`infinity1`	`hah. i love the accent.`
`07:07.20`	`infinity1`	`what country?`
`07:07.31`	`X-Rob`	`me?`
`07:07.32`	`X-Rob`	`Australia`
`07:07.43`	`infinity1`	`sorry. i'm bad at recognizing accents.`
`07:07.57`	`BleedingMe`	`has anyone seen any configurations in which asterisk was used as a dial-in dictation type system? seems like it would be capable, just quite complicated to setup...`
`07:07.58`	`X-Rob`	`if you call again it'll come straight through to my desk phone`
`07:07.58`	`infinity1`	`i was good at it when i interacted with foreigners daily. but i lost the touch.`
`07:08.28`	`X-Rob`	`royk - free world dialup # 47876 that's who.`
`07:08.30`	`X-Rob`	`how`
`07:08.39`	`infinity1`	`i pressed 1`
`07:08.45`	`infinity1`	`haha. yer not available.`
`07:09.25`	`X-Rob`	`Yeah, that's xtn 301`
`07:09.30`	`X-Rob`	`which isn't here any more`
`07:09.32`	`X-Rob`	`dial 306`
`07:09.33`	`infinity1`	`i'm connected to you using ulaw.`
`07:09.35`	`X-Rob`	`rather than 1`
`07:09.43`	`infinity1`	`wonder if i should use something else with fwd`
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`07:14.52`	`Umaro`	`Hey guys, can anyone point me to documentation on direct dialing?`
`07:15.09`	`RoyK`	`~docs`
`07:15.09`	`jbot`	`Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`07:15.57`	`Umaro`	`Basically, I want to have one asterisk server that has all my sip clients, and then I want to have all the other machines be able to call each user by only using their username.. I don't want to deal with extension numbers, etc. I was thinking something like SIP/Umaro@mydomain`
`07:16.30`	`Umaro`	`but on the client side of that attempt, I get a 404, and on the other side I get a Jun 26 00:12:37 DEBUG[6107]: is not a local user`
`07:16.41`	`X-Rob`	`http://www.aussievoip.com.au/wiki-G729`
`07:22.25`	`Gunnar`	`so, anyone know just _which_ 4 * projects got approved for Google's Summer of Code?`
`07:23.25`	`RoyK`	`summer`
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`07:47.13`	`BladeRunner99`	`Hi sir, who knows about a GUI application to configure extension & other functions ?`
`07:50.09`	`tzafrir`	`Why use such a GUI? It will only limit you? ;-)`
`07:50.26`	`Umaro`	`Is anyone here doing direct sip user dialing? SIP/user@domain.com ?`
`07:50.47`	`Umaro`	`specifically, where asterisk is running on said domain.com`
`07:53.14`	`tzafrir`	`You need to have a sip user called user at domain.com`
`07:53.46`	`tzafrir`	`right?`
`07:53.49`	`BladeRunner99`	`tzafrir: have u got a good doc to setup extensions.conf ?`
`07:54.09`	`tzafrir`	`BladeRunner99, what exactly do you want to do?`
`07:54.47`	`BladeRunner99`	`tzafrir: I have 4 extensions and a menu choice.....`
`07:54.59`	`BladeRunner99`	`tzafir Press 1 to joe, 2 to jim, 3 to clark`
`07:55.07`	`BladeRunner99`	`tzafrir: and a voicemail to the user`
`07:55.13`	`tzafrir`	`That's an IVR`
`07:55.21`	`BladeRunner99`	`tzafrir: yes`
`07:55.41`	`BladeRunner99`	`tzafrir: and the ability to in and out`
`07:55.55`	`tzafrir`	`one of which is demonstrated in the "demo" that comes with the default installation`
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`08:13.08`	`BullWeivel`	`can you receive faxes with * ?`
`08:14.20`	`BullWeivel`	`i guess i should specify a little bit more then just saying that :) can i receive faxes and have asterisk be smart enough to figure out its a fax...i have one phone line. When someone calls they will get an auto attendant... if its a fax then I want it to grab the fax and email a copy of it to me.`
`08:14.42`	`BullWeivel`	`is that possible ???`
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`08:18.22`	`count`	`Anybody have experience with Asterisk on OpenBSD?`
`08:19.32`	`count`	`I've got 2 * setups, one on FreeBSD 4.11, one on OpenBSD 3.7`
`08:19.34`	`count`	`identical configs`
`08:19.37`	`count`	`same phones, etc`
`08:19.42`	`count`	`on FreeBSD everything works wonderfully`
`08:19.53`	`count`	`on OpenBSD, the audio is one-way only`
`08:20.00`	`shido`	`heh`
`08:20.11`	`count`	`The originator of the call can be heard by the callee, but the callee isn't heard`
`08:20.13`	`shido`	`Im headin to bed`
`08:20.20`	`shido`	`drop a mesg or two`
`08:20.25`	`shido`	`help in morn when wakey`
`08:20.30`	`shido`	`sleep now me will do now`
`08:20.31`	`shido`	`yes`
`08:20.34`	`count`	`heh`
`08:20.37`	`BullWeivel`	`shido... can i do what i said ??`
`08:20.41`	`shido`	`yes`
`08:20.50`	`shido`	`10 minute install 2 config 8 test`
`08:21.00`	`shido`	`depending on proc speed of compiling spandsp`
`08:21.04`	`shido`	`thats all`
`08:21.06`	`shido`	`dont freak out`
`08:21.16`	`shido`	`catch me in the morning or when these nut cases wake back up`
`08:21.28`	`shido`	`probably wanna wait for them because tey wont charge you :)`
`08:21.40`	`shido`	`I must be sleepy - im pushin away customers :)`
`08:21.44`	`BullWeivel`	`alright... chat with you later. im going to be calling nufoone`
`08:21.50`	`BullWeivel`	`but for service`
`08:21.58`	`shido`	`cool.`
`08:21.59`	`BullWeivel`	`arent u guys a ilec? (and someone spoke at wispcon)`
`08:22.11`	`shido`	`we're all kinds of stuff`
`08:22.26`	`shido`	`see the new members page jeremy is working on?`
`08:22.29`	`shido`	`be afraid`
`08:22.44`	`shido`	`our shi% is still stinky but we're freshening up`
`08:22.49`	`shido`	`that cmae out all wrong`
`08:22.50`	`shido`	`ok`
`08:22.51`	`BullWeivel`	`dont see it...where is that at?`
`08:22.51`	`shido`	`IM GONE!`
`08:22.56`	`shido`	`members.nufone.net`
`08:23.02`	`BullWeivel`	`later man...im out to...its 3am here and i should be sleeping.`
`08:23.09`	`shido`	`4:23 am`
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`08:32.25`	`jaike`	`have a question here...how many times larger is the filesize of wav49 files compared to gsm...given the same lenght of recording?`
`08:32.39`	`brenda[laptop]`	`anyone here work for nufone?`
`08:33.09`	`count`	`brenda - I think shido does, but he just went to sleep`
`08:33.20`	`brenda[laptop]`	`oh ok`
`08:33.48`	`brenda[laptop]`	`was just wondering if we can bring dedicated circuits into nufone`
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`08:50.14`	`Romik_`	`livevoip - caesed operations http://pastebin.ca/15881`
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`09:09.12`	`tzafrir`	`jaiger, wav49 is gsm`
`09:09.39`	`opus__`	`yo`
`09:09.46`	`opus__`	`the germans kick ass`
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`10:52.28`	`Romik_`	`livevoip - caesed operations http://pastebin.ca/15881`
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`11:07.54`	`Romik_`	`any body uses incomming numbers from nufone?`
`11:11.06`	`DA-MAN`	`no`
`11:11.10`	`DA-MAN`	`:P`
`11:16.52`	`Romik_`	`da-man: what voip provide do you use?`
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`11:31.12`	`Romik_`	`da-man: you happy with them?`
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`11:56.52`	`jaike`	`i can only see monitor-format in queues.conf...but it doesnt show where to configure the filename output`
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`12:12.47`	`mag_um`	`hi`
`12:14.28`	`ariel_`	`mag_um, hello`
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`12:46.28`	`ariel_`	`MichaelSaunders, if you want to include a context in your main context you just do include = context If you want to include a file you do #include=/etc/asterisk/filename.conf`
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`12:55.21`	`tzafrir`	`#inclde "filename.conf"`
`12:55.38`	`tzafrir`	`#include "filename.conf"`
`12:55.46`	`tzafrir`	`the last one`
`12:55.56`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`isn't the first one include => context?`
`12:57.24`	`tzafrir`	`anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=312770`
`12:57.57`	`tzafrir`	`RaYmAn-Bx, #include is a "preprocessor macro"`
`12:58.44`	`tzafrir`	`It will just add the text of filename.conf in the place of the #include line, regardless of the structure`
`12:59.01`	`tzafrir`	`It also works in any config file, not only extensions.conf`
`12:59.05`	`tzanger`	`so one of the loudest and most obnoxious VOIP providers is gone...`
`13:00.23`	`tzafrir`	`anybody actually using shell command to change voicemail password? (see the link to bug report with patch above)`
`13:01.12`	`cybertoy`	`tzanger, which one?`
`13:01.21`	`tzanger`	`livevoip`
`13:01.23`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`tzafrir: hence why I said "first one" :)`
`13:01.34`	`RaYmAn-Bx`	`which was the other one than the #include one...`
`13:02.31`	`tzafrir`	`include = context is equivalent ot include =>context?`
`13:02.50`	`Zaw`	`fucking livevoip.`
`13:02.52`	`tzafrir`	`or just something the parser complains about?`
`13:02.58`	`tzafrir`	`deadvoip`
`13:03.16`	`tzanger`	`doesn't bother me all that much, I'm waiting for sixtel/iax.cc/whatever else the go by to die`
`13:04.55`	`tzafrir`	`And is there any guarantee that the voicemail password from the user will not have any special shell chars?`
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`13:08.45`	`Zaw`	`are there any stable voip providers?`
`13:09.13`	`coppice`	`you mean stable as in "stable manure"? :-)`
`13:09.14`	`tzanger`	`Zaw: I've never had technical issue with nufone`
`13:09.59`	`tzanger`	`Zaw: I've also had good success with Unlimitel (but they're for very specific cities, their "off network" charges aren't as good as nufone's`
`13:10.20`	`InfraRed`	`Zaw: define stable`
`13:10.44`	`coppice`	`A large building for horses, usually wooden`
`13:10.49`	`tzanger`	`he shouldn't have to define stable, y'all know what he means :-)`
`13:10.57`	`tzanger`	`coppice: you're in rare form today :-)`
`13:10.58`	`Zaw`	`InfraRed: one that isn't going to claim bankruptcy at 4:00 am on a weekend, and has 99.99% uptime`
`13:11.17`	`InfraRed`	`Zaw: quality costs money`
`13:11.23`	`coppice`	`tzanger: not we don't. one man's stable is another's flaky`
`13:11.26`	`InfraRed`	`i suggest gradwell`
`13:11.31`	`InfraRed`	`www.gradwell.net`
`13:11.32`	`MichaelSaunders`	`ariel_: but what about in a real time environment`
`13:11.41`	`Zaw`	`InfraRed: i never said anything about it being cheap, i said stable.`
`13:11.46`	`Zaw`	`thanks`
`13:11.59`	`coppice`	`tzanger: "Its working fine' is another highly variable concept`
`13:12.01`	`opus__`	`how can you tell the name/volume of a cd in linux?`
`13:12.06`	`tzanger`	`coppice: I am just starting some work on integer-based dsp code for codecs (likely gsm and MAYBE iLBC) and things like echo cancel and DTMF detection. Any pointers?`
`13:12.17`	`InfraRed`	`Zaw: and also http://www.magratheatelecom.com`
`13:12.27`	`tzanger`	`magrathea? hahaha`
`13:12.30`	`coppice`	`tzanger: why are you doing that?`
`13:12.32`	`InfraRed`	`gradwell afaik runs 90% of uk's isps voip offerings`
`13:12.53`	`tzanger`	`coppice: because the DSP I'm playing with (BlackFin BF533) is an integer DSP`
`13:13.44`	`coppice`	`the GSM code is already fixed point. The iLBC fixed point code is not free, but I don't think they impose any restrictions on you implementing your own`
`13:14.22`	`coppice`	`magrathea telecom doesn't go bankrupt, but if they aren't making money they go into hibernation :-)`
`13:14.48`	`coppice`	`tzanger: what are you putting blackfin in?`
`13:14.49`	`file[laptop]`	`so I go to sleep for the night and when I wake up my absolute favorite company (yes said sarcastically) goes bankrupt, great`
`13:14.50`	`tzanger`	`I did not know that about iLBC, thanks for the pointer! I know that fixed-point g729 is available (and requires licensing) but at this point I'm not terribly worried about it`
`13:14.56`	`file[laptop]`	`it's gonna be a good day`
`13:15.21`	`MichaelSaunders`	`tzanger: Do you how to make extensions use includes`
`13:15.35`	`coppice`	`iLBC is encumbered, but they allow people to use the floating point code freely. iLBC sucks, though`
`13:15.57`	`tzanger`	`coppice: just playing right now, really. it's just the bf533 dev board, but I was poking around a couple days ago and saw that conexant made some nice and cheap arm9-based cores that had some voip capability`
`13:16.14`	`coppice`	`speex is running on some DSPs now. I'm not sure about the blackfin, but I think they have it all running fixed point now`
`13:16.25`	`tzanger`	`coppice: I agree that iLBC is teh suck ... I haven't tried speex yet`
`13:16.29`	`JonUK`	`Hi everyone, does anyone have 5 minutes to give me a hand with installing App_odbcexec?`
`13:16.55`	`coppice`	`conexant sucks. several people make VoIP chips, and almost anything has to be better than using conexant`
`13:17.09`	`tzanger`	`unfortunately all the dsp stuff in asterisk/zaptel is centered around floating point DSP. I'm just playing iwth the idea of fixed point implementations of the core stuff`
`13:17.30`	`tzanger`	`coppice: :-) I have heard that too. (I've no experience iwth them)`
`13:17.30`	`tzanger`	`MichaelSaunders: yup`
`13:17.41`	`file[laptop]`	`coppice: hifive DSP dude!`
`13:17.49`	`coppice`	`duh! zaptel runs on Pentiums and Athlons. floats are faster than fixed point on those`
`13:18.07`	`InfraRed`	`ZAPATEL`
`13:18.11`	`InfraRed`	`\o/`
`13:18.21`	`coppice`	`the echo cancellation is the only fixed point code, as it has to run in the kernel`
`13:18.22`	`file[laptop]`	`yay livevoip is gone`
`13:18.26`	`tzanger`	`MichaelSaunders: #include filename to bring the contexts in, then include => context to include them in the specific places`
`13:18.55`	`tzanger`	`coppice: oh I understand WHY, I'm just playing around with the idea`
`13:19.29`	`tzanger`	`coppice: curious though -- why can't you use the FPU in the kernel? the #define HAS_MMX seems to only add a couple instructions to save and restore FPU state`
`13:19.30`	`coppice`	`tzanger: the big selling VoIP chips are TI's. ST, Agere, Atmel and several others make complete VoIP phone chips.`
`13:19.58`	`tclark`	`what about the pa168 based stuff :) ?`
`13:20.13`	`tzanger`	`yeah there are some neat things coming out of TI`
`13:20.33`	`tzanger`	`I have an OMAP5910 eval board too but it's not targeting VOIP directly (more cell phones) -- have a friend in Nokia that does the OMAP2 stuff`
`13:20.36`	`tzanger`	`those are expensive chips`
`13:20.42`	`coppice`	`tzanger: you can use FP in the kernel, but it is very messy, and to be avoided if possible. you need to save and restore rather a lot rather frequently`
`13:21.17`	`MichaelSaunders`	`tzanger: is there a way to debug a call when it is dialing o find out where it matches`
`13:21.19`	`JonUK`	`I am just not sure about the "install" part of App_odbcexec, where you edit the Asterisk MakeFile`
`13:21.19`	`tzanger`	`yeah the idea's higher-density than one or two voice channels.. .most of the chips target just that`
`13:21.23`	`coppice`	`don' use OMAP. that is a poor choice for a VoIP phone. there are real VoIP phone chips from TI. Actually OMAP is very cheap`
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`13:21.50`	`tzanger`	`1k pricing on OMAP5190 is like $30 IIRC`
`13:22.06`	`file[laptop]`	`I need to renew my domain sometime...`
`13:22.34`	`coppice`	`PA168 is much less integrated than some of the other solutions. they supply a full software package, which is the key selling feature`
`13:22.56`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm still questioning IAX2 CPE equipment`
`13:23.08`	`tzanger`	`OMAP is just neat in the sense that I could have the DSP doing the codec stuff and the ARM9 core (or was it ARM7 I don't recall ATM) and regular uClinux running on the ARM side just pulling preprocessed data over the processor link`
`13:24.06`	`coppice`	`tzanger: they have VoIP chips with an ARM, a DSP, a 100M MAC, codec intefaces, and almost everything except the analogue circuitry. much better suited than OMAP`
`13:24.18`	`file[laptop]`	`what codecs?`
`13:25.31`	`tzanger`	`coppice: yeah I saw some of that when I was perusing the site`
`13:25.33`	`file[laptop]`	`are companies actually targetting codecs outside of ULAW/ALAW/G729/G723?`
`13:27.38`	`coppice`	`I wonder how many PA168s they sell?`
`13:29.25`	`tclark`	`file[laptop]: the pa168 all have gsm & ilbc`
`13:29.47`	`ariel_`	`well livevoip says it's main reason for going under is overbilling and credit card fraud... hummm maybe management/no support.`
`13:30.08`	`file[laptop]`	`tclark: the PA168 is unique, as it's IAX2`
`13:30.18`	`file[laptop]`	`and as for livevoip, they don't pay their bills`
`13:30.27`	`key2`	`file[laptop]: so PA168 is the best ?`
`13:30.27`	`file[laptop]`	`then they sue you when you try to cut off their service`
`13:30.30`	`tclark`	`and h323 sip mgcp and some others`
`13:30.47`	`file[laptop]`	`the PA168 chipset is handy, due to the fact they open sourced their code`
`13:31.03`	`coppice`	`file: no they didn't`
`13:31.17`	`key2`	`file[laptop]: where is it possible to find the source ?`
`13:31.18`	`file[laptop]`	`okay - released their code`
`13:31.31`	`file[laptop]`	`it's morning and I haven't had anything to eat/drink in a LONG time`
`13:31.36`	`file[laptop]`	`let alone caffeine`
`13:31.55`	`file[laptop]`	`or I loved in a parallel universe where they did`
`13:31.55`	`coppice`	`no they didn't. have you actually looked at what they released? its a few fragments`
`13:32.11`	`file[laptop]`	`we've been able to build complete firmware out of it`
`13:32.24`	`file[laptop]`	`well, bkw did`
`13:32.28`	`coppice`	`yeah, but most of it is binary libs`
`13:32.48`	`file[laptop]`	`can't release everything due to licensing`
`13:32.52`	`coppice`	`that's understanable for the codecs, but lots and lots is binary libs`
`13:33.04`	`file[laptop]`	`atleast they released something`
`13:33.26`	`tzafrir`	`how about making a SF project of it, so maybe some day someone will be able to replace a lib or two with something free?`
`13:33.27`	`coppice`	`it seems to be something largely useless.`
`13:33.29`	`tclark`	`the protocols are all thet ist the codecs and the tcp stack that is missing`
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`13:34.43`	`file[laptop]`	`girls just wanna have fun!`
`13:36.53`	`file[laptop]`	`I woke up too early`
`13:37.37`	`file[laptop]`	`someone care to knock me unconcious?`
`13:37.54`	`coppice`	`tclark: I looked through the protocols, and just found little fragments of source and big libraries`
`13:38.16`	`coppice`	`UoIP - unconciousness over IP?`
`13:39.36`	`file[laptop]`	`coppice: yup`
`13:39.39`	`tclark`	`key2: the cvs server is at :pserver:anoncvs@masters.virttel.com:2401/home/anoncvs`
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`13:41.13`	`coppice`	`file: so the protocols are not released as source. only some glue code has been released`
`13:42.57`	`file[laptop]`	`realllllly? I never looked cause, well, I don't have a phone like that`
`13:43.42`	`file[laptop]`	`next one I intend to buy is a Polycom 501 for it's presence/messaging properties`
`13:44.15`	`mmlj4`	`seen manxpower`
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`13:47.30`	`tclark`	`coppice: how long ago dod you looks at the release srcs ?`
`13:47.47`	`coppice`	`about a month, I think`
`13:49.59`	`coppice`	`I bought an enermax power supply. I knew this was a dumb thing as I was doing it. now it sits dead after an hour of operation.`
`13:50.05`	`JonUK`	`Has anyone here installed the asterisk-addons package?`
`13:50.36`	`file[laptop]`	`coppice: then why did you buy it?`
`13:50.39`	`jontow`	`its not really a package so much as a small collection of software that you can throw into your existing installation, later.`
`13:50.48`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`hi coppice :)`
`13:51.01`	`coppice`	`file: because the shop didn't have an SPI one`
`13:51.21`	`file[laptop]`	`coppice: 'tsk 'tsk, just to spite you I bet`
`13:51.25`	`JonUK`	`jontow, I am trying to get it installed onto my existing server and during the make install process I get a CR_SERVER_GONE_ERROR message`
`13:51.46`	`JonUK`	`would apreciate any assistance anyone can offer :)`
`13:51.46`	`coppice`	`PoWeRKiLL: hi`
`13:52.07`	`coppice`	`file: the enermax looks very pretty :-\`
`13:52.16`	`coppice`	`the SPIs just work :-)`
`13:52.32`	`file[laptop]`	`workingness > looks`
`13:52.50`	`PoWeRKiLL`	`coppice do you have specification to create tiff file for sending fax ?`
`13:53.28`	`coppice`	`make the TIFFs 1728 pixels wide. that is the key thing you need to get right`
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`13:58.24`	`SuPrSluG`	`hello all`
`13:59.01`	`Newbie___`	`hi all, i got 10 g729 license from digium, and plan to install g723 from intel. now question will * crashed?`
`14:02.02`	`SuPrSluG`	`i'm in need of help w/ an incoming roll over/ hunt group. we have 4 lines. we have 2 seperate businesses. we had the provider roll over all lines for availability. Is there a way in the dial plan to recognize which number the call is coming in on and direct it to the proper context?`
`14:02.53`	`file[laptop]`	`SuPrSluG: if you're using the same lines, then it'll go to a central context... and if your provider sends you the phone number dialed then asterisk will try to match that in the context, and then you can go to the individual context based on that`
`14:03.50`	`SuPrSluG`	`how can i tell if they're sending me the number dialed?`
`14:04.13`	`SuPrSluG`	`from cli?`
`14:04.21`	`file[laptop]`	`it'll say`
`14:04.28`	`file[laptop]`	`is this on analog? or PRI? or what`
`14:05.26`	`spyroux`	`hi!`
`14:08.58`	`SuPrSluG`	`analog`
`14:09.06`	`SuPrSluG`	`http://pastebin.ca/15903`
`14:09.08`	`file[laptop]`	`analog you won't get the number dialed, too bad - so sad`
`14:09.15`	`key2`	`Hey`
`14:09.31`	`opus__`	`ask them :)`
`14:09.41`	`file[laptop]`	`analog isn't that fancy`
`14:09.51`	`SuPrSluG`	`i wanted to use something like above in dial plan`
`14:09.55`	`key2`	`how can I redirect 200 concurrent calls from one asterisk to an other one that does playbacking ?`
`14:10.33`	`key2`	`do I have to use a trunk ?`
`14:11.05`	`opus__`	`probably redirect each call to the server with SIP and make sure canreinvite=yes is enabled`
`14:11.18`	`SuPrSluG`	`file[laptop]:so i'll have to have the provider use 2 hunt groups`
`14:11.57`	`JonUK`	`Hey, last request for assistance I hope!! I have resolved my first problem with making the asterisk-addons, but now I am getting an error regarding mysqlclient. Has anyone else had this ?`
`14:12.13`	`key2`	`opus__: with something like s,1,Dial(SIP...) ?`
`14:13.04`	`opus__`	`dialI(SIP/2000@192.168.x.x)`
`14:15.10`	`key2`	`opus__: with a single SIP account called 2000 on the other one ?`
`14:15.19`	`opus__`	`sure`
`14:15.58`	`key2`	`opus__: so for each of those 200 calls on the SIP/2000 i'll get a unique ID and can retransfer them individually to somehwere else ?`
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`14:16.29`	`opus__`	`you might want to look into passing some kind of extra variable inside of SIP`
`14:16.48`	`key2`	`opus__: how?`
`14:16.51`	`opus__`	`i haven't done that before, but perhaps setvar? or notify?`
`14:17.25`	`key2`	`and can I do it with the manager ?`
`14:17.33`	`opus__`	`yeah`
`14:17.38`	`key2`	`like get the info and make an app that redirect the calls to the second asterisk ?`
`14:17.47`	`opus__`	`yup`
`14:17.58`	`opus__`	`what type of server is handleing 200 calls i'm curious`
`14:18.26`	`key2`	`dual xeon with 2 quad E1 TE411P`
`14:18.31`	`key2`	`hardware echo cancelling`
`14:19.01`	`key2`	`I even wonder if a dual xeon would be enough to do a ZAP <> alaw on 200 concurrent calls`
`14:20.17`	`key2`	`do u have an idea`
`14:20.54`	`opus__`	`Hmmm`
`14:21.02`	`opus__`	`I don't think so but haven't tried yet`
`14:21.26`	`key2`	`opus__: what does the CPU have to do if there is a hardware echo cancel and I convert from E1 to alaw`
`14:21.31`	`key2`	`normally not much`
`14:22.19`	`opus__`	`yeah`
`14:22.28`	`opus__`	`doesn't it still need to combine channels together though?`
`14:22.45`	`key2`	`what u mean to combine channel ?`
`14:23.23`	`opus__`	`transcoding two channels together`
`14:23.45`	`key2`	`in what case do you have to transcode two channels together ?`
`14:24.03`	`key2`	`I just receive 200 simultaneous calls that I resend to an other asterisk`
`14:24.21`	`key2`	`so I just do 200 x ZAP <> SIP (alaw)`
`14:26.53`	`key2`	`how many concurrent calls can I handle with a dual xeon from SIP to SIP with the same codec`
`14:26.54`	`key2`	`?`
`14:28.16`	`jontow`	`try it..`
`14:28.20`	`jontow`	`thats a pretty fast machine`
`14:28.32`	`key2`	`jontow: how can I try it?`
`14:28.52`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`keep making calls till it stops working?`
`14:29.23`	`key2`	`well I don't have 800 SIP phones to try 400 calls`
`14:29.42`	`key2`	`is there an easy solution to try ?`
`14:29.43`	`Zaw`	`can someone tell me why i am getting this error? http://synapse.subneural.net/~zaw/error.txt - i'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p5`
`14:29.53`	`Zaw`	`that's when i try making the freebsd asterisk port`
`14:30.07`	`jontow`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+auto-dial+out`
`14:30.11`	`jontow`	`take a look at that, key2`
`14:30.11`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`key2, a lot...`
`14:30.39`	`key2`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: a lot of what ? concurrent calls ?`
`14:30.46`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yes`
`14:31.08`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`certainly one full quad card.`
`14:31.09`	`jontow`	`(go look at the url)`
`14:31.24`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`with the right motherboard I would guess you could max out 2`
`14:31.39`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`echocancell will be an issue`
`14:31.48`	`key2`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: I got TE411P`
`14:31.51`	`key2`	`so harware echo cancel`
`14:31.52`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yes`
`14:31.55`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I was just looking`
`14:32.20`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`a lot`
`14:32.35`	`PatrickDK`	`hmm, te411p doesn't have hardware echocanelling`
`14:32.43`	`key2`	`but basically, if I have 400 SIP phones, do I need them to be connected to an asterisk to be able to send them calls from an asterisk ?`
`14:32.54`	`key2`	`PatrickDK ??`
`14:32.59`	`mtgh`	`key2: yes`
`14:33.01`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`just remember, when using multiple boards, have a server where each pci slot you are using is on it's own bus`
`14:33.02`	`jontow`	`if you have 400 sip phones, man.. thats a lotta overhead :)`
`14:33.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ok, lost me now`
`14:33.38`	`mtgh`	`jontow: 400 is not that many .... I have an install with about 2000`
`14:33.55`	`key2`	`mtgh: and how many concurrent calls ?`
`14:34.14`	`mtgh`	`between 1000-1500 over tdm and ip`
`14:34.22`	`PatrickDK`	`oh heh, never mind`
`14:34.25`	`mtgh`	`we have 8 ts`
`14:34.28`	`key2`	`PatrickDK: Wildcard TE411P Quad-Span togglable E1/T1/J1 echo cancellation card enables per card or per port selection of either T1, E1, J1 signaling formats (3.3 volt PCI only).`
`14:34.52`	`key2`	`PatrickDK: why do you say it doenst have echo cancel`
`14:34.55`	`PatrickDK`	`I think I was thinking of the other card`
`14:35.04`	`key2`	`so it does ?`
`14:35.20`	`mtgh`	`the echo cancel is new to that card`
`14:35.32`	`PatrickDK`	`ya, it's he te410p that doesn't`
`14:35.34`	`mtgh`	`you can get it for the older versions of it via a firmware upgrade`
`14:36.05`	`key2`	`mtgh: no that's not true, that's not a firmware upgrade ! that's a whol emodule you have to plugg in`
`14:36.29`	`mtgh`	`http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=press/pr_2gen_firm`
`14:36.32`	`PatrickDK`	`hmm, it doesn't provide very much echo cancelation though`
`14:36.45`	`key2`	`PatrickDK: how do you know ?`
`14:36.55`	`PatrickDK`	`heh? it says so in the specs`
`14:37.01`	`PatrickDK`	`16ms if you use all 4 ports`
`14:37.13`	`PatrickDK`	`or 64ms if you only use one port`
`14:37.24`	`PatrickDK`	`I try to go at a min of 32ms on my stuff`
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`14:44.51`	`tzanger`	`mtgh: you can't upgrade the firmware on the cards, please don't speak out your ass`
`14:45.03`	`tzanger`	`it's very much a card swap`
`14:45.09`	`Godsey`	`I have a AG-168V that has ptsn port`
`14:45.19`	`Godsey`	`I can't figure out how to setup the dial plan in it :)`
`14:49.12`	`tzanger`	`oh wow`
`14:49.35`	`tzanger`	`looks like hte new te410/405 went to an ee instead of proprietary xilinx configuration rom`
`14:49.39`	`tzanger`	`very nifty`
`14:50.00`	`key2`	`the xilinx is a FPGA not a rom`
`14:50.48`	`tzanger`	`key2: no, but the xilinx FPGA uses a custom xilinx ROM for configuration`
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`14:51.05`	`key2`	`oh ok`
`14:51.06`	`tzanger`	`XS02 or something along that line is the part number`
`14:51.19`	`key2`	`and the board of the TE410 and TE411 looks the same ?`
`14:51.33`	`key2`	`just the fpga firmware that is != ?`
`14:52.02`	`tzanger`	`key2: it is the same board`
`14:52.11`	`tzanger`	`the TE411 is a TE410 with a daughtercard`
`14:52.25`	`Pakipenguin`	`anyone here using budgetone?`
`14:52.29`	`key2`	`tzanger: ok so there is an extra module`
`14:52.33`	`tzanger`	`yes`
`14:52.43`	`key2`	`that's the one that does the echo cancel right ?`
`14:52.51`	`tzanger`	`but the older TE410s needed to be swapped out to do the firmware upgrade to support the new daughtercards`
`14:53.02`	`FaithX`	`Pakipenguin: yup`
`14:53.07`	`tzanger`	`yes the daughtercard is an echo canceller`
`14:53.24`	`Pakipenguin`	`Faithx , my budgetone started showing center > when i press login only`
`14:54.11`	`FaithX`	`Pakipenguin: I don't know what you are referring to.`
`14:54.36`	`Pakipenguin`	`FaithX: when you goto the admin screen from logon , it shows this`
`14:54.46`	`key2`	`tzanger: what's the price of the daughter card ?`
`14:54.52`	`FaithX`	`Pakipenguin: what model?`
`14:55.14`	`tzanger`	`key2: ask Digium. :-)`
`14:55.30`	`tzanger`	`my guess? take the cost of the TE411 and subtract from it the cost of the TE410 :-)`
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`14:55.38`	`Pakipenguin`	`bt - 100`
`14:56.08`	`FaithX`	`Pakipenguin: an older phone then?`
`14:57.04`	`key2`	`tzanger: would it be smart to invent a pci card that does just echo cancel ?`
`14:57.22`	`jontow`	`how would you mate it to all the random other devices?`
`14:57.36`	`tzanger`	`key2: nope`
`14:57.56`	`key2`	`tzanger: why not ?`
`14:58.22`	`tzanger`	`key2: you're doubling the PCI bandwidth used`
`14:58.27`	`tzanger`	`increasing latency`
`14:58.44`	`key2`	`tzafrir: still better than the CPU echo cancel`
`14:59.25`	`key2`	`no?`
`15:00.24`	`tzanger`	`key2: take a look at industry... I don't think so`
`15:00.36`	`tzanger`	`better to cancel it on the physicla T1 than do it over the PCI bus`
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`15:04.02`	`efonz`	`Asterisk and H323 ?`
`15:04.42`	`efonz`	`anyone using * + ser ?`
`15:05.25`	`mrplum`	`what's ser?`
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`15:10.02`	`efonz`	`Sip Express Router`
`15:10.17`	`ariel_`	`efonz, asterisk and H323 then next line asking about * + Ser.. Ser is a sip server`
`15:13.30`	`mrplum`	`So you want to use Ser but terminate your ptsn number thorugh asterisk or something?`
`15:13.32`	`efonz`	`I know that very well..2 separate questions`
`15:13.59`	`mrplum`	`dunno if anyone uses, I'm sure as heck not that complicated :)`
`15:15.17`	`efonz`	`I am sure also ... have a small prob there..using ser for the last 6 months wtih *`
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`15:23.24`	`efonz`	`anyone familiar with '481 call leg does not exist " ?`
`15:23.55`	`tzafrir`	`any reason why there are new versions of the asterisk-sounds tarball that contain the same files?`
`15:24.34`	`darwin35`	`any one have a calll blocking setup ?`
`15:24.52`	`darwin35`	`call rejection`
`15:24.53`	`tzafrir`	`mine works great: I get none :-)`
`15:25.09`	`darwin35`	`mind sharing`
`15:26.01`	`darwin35`	`I need a way to block unwanted calls`
`15:26.09`	`darwin35`	`per exten`
`15:26.18`	`darwin35`	`and global`
`15:26.58`	`PatrickDK`	`that depends on how you determine what calls are blocked and not`
`15:27.23`	`PatrickDK`	`if you just check against astdb, that is easy`
`15:27.35`	`darwin35`	`for right now thats the plan`
`15:27.52`	`darwin35`	`but plan to move to realtime once I read up on it`
`15:28.27`	`darwin35`	`only reason I ask is I dont find it in the wiki`
`15:29.42`	`Prion`	`Is there a good reference for the (new?) Set() command?`
`15:30.33`	`coppice`	`tzanger: cancelling echos within an E1 is OK, and flexible. Cancelling echos on an H.100 connected card with a PCI feed of its output is the most effective way in the telephony-in-servers world`
`15:30.55`	`coppice`	`tzanger: as you said, a PCI canceller card would suck`
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`15:40.34`	`Slup`	`Ring Ring`
`15:40.48`	`Strom_TM`	`Five cents please`
`15:40.54`	`Slup`	`:p`
`15:40.55`	`Strom_TM`	`Please deposit five cents for the first one minute`
`15:41.37`	`Slup`	`i thought this was a free call :S`
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`15:42.10`	`Slup`	`cna you do me a favor?`
`15:42.20`	`Slup`	`just need someone to call me`
`15:42.26`	`Strom_TM`	`yeah, i'll call`
`15:42.29`	`Strom_TM`	`number please`
`15:42.37`	`Slup`	`pm`
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`16:11.23`	`Pete_Largo`	`~convert 150 eur to usd`
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`16:25.16`	`pifiu`	`hey what are some websites with music on hold?`
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`16:29.03`	`iq`	`hi`
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`16:30.31`	`pifiu`	`hi`
`16:35.23`	`Slup`	`Pete_Largo www.x-rates.com`
`16:39.40`	`darwin35`	`is dbdel still used ?`
`16:39.53`	`darwin35`	`in head`
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`16:41.45`	`mag_um`	`hi`
`16:44.08`	`Slup`	`hi mag_um`
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`16:49.39`	`pifiu`	`hey what are some websites with music on hold files?`
`16:50.52`	`pcm`	`i'm lookin for Rob Thomas :)`
`16:51.40`	`Slup`	`what sort of music you looking for?`
`16:52.02`	`pifiu`	`for a business enviroment`
`16:52.08`	`pifiu`	`but its pretty broad`
`16:52.12`	`pifiu`	`and laid back, so i think anything will do`
`16:52.16`	`Slup`	`lol yea that is`
`16:52.32`	`Slup`	`any mp3 site`
`16:52.58`	`pifiu`	`i could have sworn there was a site with free music`
`16:53.15`	`pifiu`	`like to search for different kinds and such`
`16:53.45`	`Slup`	`probably is`
`16:54.21`	`Slup`	`i've had a look befor and didn't find much but that was quite a while ago and i didn't look to hard`
`16:54.39`	`Slup`	`i just use tunes from my mp3 collection`
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`16:56.42`	`jontow`	`for a business environment, that can get hairy with legal concerns.`
`16:57.26`	`Slup`	`mmm depends how big the firm is`
`16:57.57`	`jontow`	`indeed`
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`16:58.56`	`dalabera`	`Guys Hello everyone!!`
`16:59.56`	`Prion`	`Might want to search for 'podsafe music' as most of that is unencumbered`
`17:01.45`	`dalabera`	`I have an issue with a T400p card, I have a Pri T1 connected to the 2 span and for some reason there are certains calls that get stuck on the first channels on this server and prevent other calls to get in, Any IDEAS??`
`17:02.18`	`pcm`	`are you using PRI ISDN ?`
`17:02.21`	`pcm`	`w/it ?`
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`17:06.13`	`dalabera`	`yes`
`17:06.26`	`dalabera`	`why you any issues?`
`17:06.34`	`dalabera`	`you know any issues?`
`17:06.47`	`kimosabe`	`does any one know how to configure fxo fxs interfaces on a cisco router`
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`17:10.19`	`MichaelSaunders`	`I am running asterisk realtime`
`17:10.27`	`MichaelSaunders`	`has anyone got voicemail working`
`17:14.15`	`Marlow`	`kimosabe: hasn't really anything to do with asterisk has it ?, try #cisco or something :)`
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`17:17.39`	`dalabera`	`pcm are you still there??`
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`17:26.21`	`MichaelSaunders`	`Marlow: Do you have asterisk running in realtime`
`17:29.08`	`infinity1`	`morning.`
`17:29.13`	`infinity1`	`time for another day of *`
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`17:31.12`	`infinity1`	`its a toy`
`17:31.30`	`infinity1`	`i decided i'm going to purchase a toy gxp2000 today :)`
`17:32.10`	`infinity1`	`and maybe an ata. nothing with two g.729's though. too much $`
`17:32.24`	`DarthClue`	`yes g729 cost money to use.`
`17:32.30`	`infinity1`	`DarthClue: what you got? you got my attention`
`17:33.18`	`infinity1`	`store.voxilla.com has gxp2000 for $99`
`17:35.01`	`DarthClue`	`I doubt I could beat that price.`
`17:35.33`	`infinity1`	`how about a HandyTone ATA286. its $55 on their website.`
`17:36.01`	`infinity1`	`wtf. $99 without the headset???`
`17:36.10`	`infinity1`	`heh`
`17:37.12`	`infinity1`	`GN Netcom 9120 w/ Flex-Boom Headset ...looks nice`
`17:37.21`	`infinity1`	`$275? oucH!`
`17:37.23`	`DarthClue`	`most of my cost savings are in the polycoms.`
`17:37.36`	`infinity1`	`how much for a nice poly?`
`17:37.46`	`Marlow`	`infinity1: that's because it's a prof. headset ..`
`17:37.55`	`DarthClue`	`i can get a polycom ip501 with a headset for about $250`
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`17:38.02`	`Marlow`	`infinity1: not only thought for bluetooth, but for callcenter environment`
`17:38.15`	`infinity1`	`Marlow: it has bluetooth?`
`17:38.41`	`infinity1`	`thats what i need. a bluetooth headset, so when i'm at starbucks, i can use it on my laptop + soft phone.`
`17:38.45`	`infinity1`	`hah`
`17:39.28`	`BullWeivel`	`would you guys consider a dual-P2-450 with about 512mb of ram a decent asterisk box??? Its only going to have up to 4 FXO cards in it to grab pots lines. Eventualy the box is going to be setup with an auto attendant for my little company... all the phones will likely be Cisco 7940's using SIP. Were talking at max 5 extensions. It might also connect to nufone for long distance calling as well. So anyways... shouldn't those hardware specs be p`
`17:39.59`	`Strom_TM`	`BullWeivel, with no transcoding you'll be fine`
`17:40.04`	`Strom_TM`	`keep everything ulaw`
`17:40.14`	`Marlow`	`infinity1: the Netcom 9120 is a combination headset ..`
`17:40.19`	`Marlow`	`infinity1: it is bluetooth ..`
`17:40.25`	`BullWeivel`	`transcoding... sorry for my noobness...what is that?`
`17:40.44`	`Strom_TM`	`going from ulaw to, say, G.726 or GSM`
`17:41.12`	`infinity1`	`i need to do some research on codecs. all i know is people say use gsm with nufone. heh`
`17:41.26`	`BullWeivel`	`ahh okay..that is what i thought but wanted to make sure. Which one works the best of poor internet links? just curious...it would be nice to be on a trip and use the phone system over the internet.`
`17:41.27`	`Strom_TM`	`ugh`
`17:41.48`	`Strom_TM`	`BullWeivel, G.726 if you can get away with it`
`17:41.52`	`BullWeivel`	`so using a softphone with bluetooth sitting at starbucks would be nice ;)`
`17:42.05`	`Strom_TM`	`otherwise, possibly GSM or iLBC`
`17:42.05`	`infinity1`	`BullWeivel: that was my idea. give it back :)`
`17:42.11`	`Strom_TM`	`but try ulaw first`
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`17:42.34`	`BullWeivel`	`you can have it back :) my laptop is a piece of crap...its an old P2-300mhz box.`
`17:43.36`	`infinity1`	`heh`
`17:43.38`	`BullWeivel`	`well likely the box wont have more then one phone call coming through it at a time. Im also looking at making the box doing faxing as well. But not sure that is even possible with the cards I have.`
`17:44.10`	`infinity1`	`what order should a softphone use codecs in?`
`17:44.20`	`infinity1`	`g729, ulaw, and then gsm?`
`17:44.44`	`kimosabe`	`is any one configuring cisco to talk to asterisk ??`
`17:45.07`	`Strom_TM`	`no no`
`17:45.09`	`Strom_TM`	`ulaw first`
`17:45.12`	`Strom_TM`	`then g.726`
`17:45.20`	`Strom_TM`	`then ilbc, then gsm`
`17:45.34`	`BullWeivel`	`kimsoabe: you mean having it talk to the cisco VOIP call manager... or to cisco gear. (ie the telephones)`
`17:45.43`	`Strom_TM`	`g.729 sounds just like gsm but costs more`
`17:45.49`	`kimosabe`	`cisco gera routers fxo fxs cards`
`17:46.02`	`kimosabe`	`trying to replace motorolla routers on a site`
`17:46.33`	`infinity1`	`what aobut alaw`
`17:46.46`	`Strom_TM`	`almost identical to ulaw`
`17:46.49`	`BullWeivel`	`ahh okay.. i have never messed with those. We have a Cisco Call Manager at my main job, but nothing asterisks.`
`17:47.09`	`BullWeivel`	`to configure the cisco i would check out there website though...they have some great documentation on configurations.`
`17:47.27`	`kimosabe`	`bullwevel youve confugred cisco routers`
`17:47.43`	`kimosabe`	`youre famaliar with voice pots config on cisco ?`
`17:47.49`	`BullWeivel`	`yes... but to work with Cisco gear.. and also not fxo/fso cards.`
`17:48.00`	`infinity1`	`i put it ulaw, alaw, g729, ilbc, gsm`
`17:48.06`	`BullWeivel`	`i have done it with T-1 cards and thats it.`
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`17:48.36`	`kimosabe`	`thanks man`
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`17:50.42`	`dalabera`	`I have an issue with a T400p card, I have a Pri T1 connected to the 2 span and for some reason there are certains calls that get stuck on the first channels on this server and prevent other calls to get in, Any IDEAS??`
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`17:55.44`	`infinity1`	`anyone have experience with the ata286 vs sepura ata's?`
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`17:57.34`	`The_Duke`	`Hello`
`17:57.49`	`sivana`	`hello`
`17:59.25`	`blitzrage`	`yay php development`
`17:59.50`	`The_Duke`	`can someone help me find a good 800# provider....`
`18:00.27`	`DarthClue`	`Duke: for voip?`
`18:01.28`	`DarthClue`	`asterlink is 2 cents a minute prepaid, $10 to start. I had mine up within 15 minutes and it has worked flawlessly.`
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`18:03.30`	`SwK`	`The_Duke: asterlink.com`
`18:04.13`	`infinity1`	`how about a good 408 area code provider.`
`18:07.32`	`The_Duke`	`yes 800# for voip ;-)`
`18:08.03`	`infinity1`	`hmmm... too many hardward choices.`
`18:08.07`	`infinity1`	`er hardware`
`18:08.27`	`SwK`	`where is 408?`
`18:08.29`	`mrplum`	`I ran across sixtel the other day, haven't tried them but their prices seem okay, http://www.iax.cc/`
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`18:08.36`	`mrplum`	`they have 800#'s...`
`18:08.49`	`mrplum`	`of course I went to try and sign up and their servers were down :) dunno if htat says much for service`
`18:09.10`	`infinity1`	`how many features can you get with just and fxs port?`
`18:09.26`	`SwK`	`i've used a few different providers and lets just say that i've been on asterlink for a while and will be staying there`
`18:09.39`	`infinity1`	`i can't decided if i should use more fsx ports or voip phones.`
`18:09.39`	`mrplum`	`awesome`
`18:09.59`	`infinity1`	`SwK: california, usa.`
`18:10.05`	`SwK`	`infinity1: well do you need analogs for faxing?`
`18:10.06`	`infinity1`	`er san jose, ca`
`18:10.23`	`SwK`	`infinity1: i have some BeverlyHIlls DIDs`
`18:10.54`	`infinity1`	`swk: i'm not sure what to do with faxing yet. right now i just use a fax to email gateway.`
`18:11.07`	`infinity1`	`i hear the digium cards are no good for fax.`
`18:11.16`	`SwK`	`they werk`
`18:11.31`	`SwK`	`if you are talking about tdm400s`
`18:11.42`	`infinity1`	`yea. the current card.`
`18:11.47`	`infinity1`	`with 4 modules`
`18:11.52`	`SwK`	`otherwise you are looking at a FAX passthru over 711Ulaw`
`18:12.52`	`infinity1`	`so about the fxs vs voip phone. any thoughts? what features can you use with the flash button and an fxs port?`
`18:13.14`	`ariel_`	`I have used the digium TDM400 boards for a while now. I don't know why people think that faxes don't work with them. They do I use them without any issues.`
`18:13.32`	`infinity1`	`ariel_: i haven't tried yet. just what i've heard :)`
`18:16.07`	`SwK`	`issues w/ digium hardware and faxing are usually related to T1 from the PSTN and T1 to a channel bank and then you have your timing setup wrong`
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`18:17.51`	`_Eagle_`	`anyone know why when i do a GotoIf in a macro, it exits the macro? the goto is within the macro, not outside of it`
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`18:19.25`	`ariel_`	`_Eagle_, post the macro on pastebin.ca and let us see it. Tell us alittle about it and we might be able to help.`
`18:20.01`	`_Eagle_`	`well its quite simple... ive narrowed it down mostly...`
`18:20.05`	`_Eagle_`	`it gets to this line:`
`18:20.07`	`_Eagle_`	`exten => s,12,GotoIf($[${ACCEPTCALL} = 1] ? s\|20)`
`18:20.24`	`_Eagle_`	`and the GotoIf resolves to True....`
`18:20.45`	`_Eagle_`	`this shows up in the verbose...`
`18:21.01`	`_Eagle_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:21.01`	`_Eagle_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:21.18`	`_Eagle_`	`and then it exits, instead of going to s,20`
`18:21.35`	`_Eagle_`	`and yes, i checked to make sure s,20 exists, and i dont see any typos...`
`18:21.56`	`_Eagle_`	`ive tried changing all kinds of stuff... different order, different variables, etc`
`18:22.24`	`_Eagle_`	`i tried using s,20 and s\|20`
`18:22.36`	`sivana`	`anyone here use SugarCRM?`
`18:23.25`	`infinity1`	`sivana: xrms`
`18:23.38`	`infinity1`	`sivana: we hate sugarcrm users :)`
`18:23.40`	`infinity1`	`j/k`
`18:23.44`	`_Eagle_`	`the concept i'm using is all based on an exampleon voip-info.org and i dont think i'm trying to do anything they aren't doing there`
`18:23.50`	`sivana`	`xrms is another product?`
`18:23.58`	`infinity1`	`sivana: imho its better than sugar.`
`18:24.42`	`_Eagle_`	`any ideas?`
`18:24.52`	`sivana`	`infinity1: I'm checking it out`
`18:25.14`	`_Eagle_`	`i mean, you CAN use GotoIf in a macro, as long as you dont leave the macro, right? or is the example on voip-info wrong?`
`18:25.25`	`infinity1`	`sivana: i've used xrms a lot. not with * yet. i've written a few plugins for xrms.`
`18:26.08`	`sivana`	`infinity1: oh god.. it's more confusing :)`
`18:26.19`	`sivana`	`based on the demo`
`18:27.16`	`_Eagle_`	`can anyone verify that for me?`
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`18:27.35`	`infinity1`	`sivana: do some research. the sugar guys are assholes in my opition. they got all pissy with tigercrm because the used sugar crm as their code base`
`18:27.39`	`SwK`	`any nagios users?`
`18:27.43`	`infinity1`	`sivana: and its obviously open source.`
`18:28.04`	`sivana`	`ya`
`18:28.13`	`infinity1`	`sivana: once i found that out, i won't get near sugar. its the principal :)`
`18:28.42`	`Qorky`	`anyone here got more than one fritz! card PCI v2.1 working in the same machine ?`
`18:28.46`	`infinity1`	`but still, xrms i think is better. its flexible, and UI is more basic, but yet very powerful.`
`18:28.51`	`infinity1`	`gotta go. l8`
`18:30.16`	`_Eagle_`	`anyone at least know where i can find an authoritative answer on that?`
`18:30.28`	`Slup`	`i'm trying to understand somthing if someone can give me some help ...`
`18:31.10`	`shido`	`.`
`18:32.32`	`_Eagle_`	`slup: you ever wonder if they're ignoring you on purpose? :-) 50 billion people on the channel, and no one awake? hard to believe... :-)`
`18:32.45`	`Slup`	`i have an * box and am trying to get it to accept incomming sip calls so i have forwarded 5060 etc to * but then i cant make calls on a phone that is setup with an account directly to an external provider`
`18:33.32`	`Slup`	`do i need to have a proxy on the network or am i just setting things up wrong?`
`18:33.40`	`_Eagle_`	`you also have to open up another range of ports i think... sip uses 5060 for the control stream, but then there's an rtp stream too`
`18:33.46`	`_Eagle_`	`i dont know which range it is`
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`18:34.01`	`Slup`	`yea i have 10000-10500 udp`
`18:34.05`	`_Eagle_`	`are you getting one-sided conversations?`
`18:34.16`	`_Eagle_`	`(kinda like me on irc)`
`18:34.53`	`shido`	`.`
`18:35.03`	`Slup`	`no i'm getting service unavailable when i ring from the phone thats setup with the external provider`
`18:35.43`	`_Eagle_`	`is the asterisk console giving you any clue?`
`18:35.51`	`_Eagle_`	`you have it on verbose.... -vvv ?`
`18:36.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`set verbose 3`
`18:36.05`	`_Eagle_`	`try sip debug? look for error messages?`
`18:36.32`	`_Eagle_`	`although i admit, sip debug is a pain to read/parse by a human who doesnt know the inner workings of the sip protocol`
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`18:37.17`	`DarthClue`	`sip requires 5060 and rtp 10000 to 20000, iax and iax2 require different ports as well.`
`18:37.24`	`_Eagle_`	`time to repeat my question from before that never got answered...`
`18:37.32`	`_Eagle_`	`i mean, you CAN use GotoIf in a macro, as long as you dont leave the macro, right? or is the example on voip-info wrong?`
`18:37.45`	`Strom_TM`	`_Eagle_, why dont you just try it and see?`
`18:37.57`	`Johnsie`	`Strom_TM: Exactly.`
`18:38.06`	`Johnsie`	`I wouldn't consider voip-info.org a credible source of data.`
`18:38.07`	`Slup`	`i have this build that has a nifty web interface but it dosn't give you any access directy on the box`
`18:38.24`	`_Eagle_`	`strom: because it doesnt work for me... but the example on voip-info.org shows 2 different people doing it successfully`
`18:38.34`	`DarthClue`	`take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+firewall+rules for more info on the firewall.`
`18:38.44`	`_Eagle_`	`so i'm wondering if i'm doing something wrong, or if the examples are outdated`
`18:38.52`	`DarthClue`	`_Eagle_: voip-info is more of a starting point and it also depends on which version of * you are using.`
`18:38.56`	`Johnsie`	`They're either outdated or completely wrong.`
`18:39.04`	`DarthClue`	`_Eagle_: you using HEAD or STABLE?`
`18:39.05`	`_Eagle_`	`i'm using today's CVS`
`18:39.19`	`DarthClue`	`_Eagle_: what page on voip-info?`
`18:39.43`	`_Eagle_`	`just upgraded, because it wasnt working, and my old version was several months old, so i thought maybe this was new functionality`
`18:39.50`	`_Eagle_`	`let me grab the url`
`18:40.05`	`_Eagle_`	`its on the Dial instructions... the examples for call screening`
`18:41.09`	`_Eagle_`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Dial`
`18:41.42`	`_Eagle_`	`there's an example about a third of the way down that uses it`
`18:41.48`	`DarthClue`	`_Eagle_: pastebin the relevant sections of your conf.`
`18:41.51`	`DarthClue`	`~pastebin`
`18:41.51`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca`
`18:41.54`	`_Eagle_`	`and another example about half the way down, by a different person, that uses it too`
`18:43.48`	`Strom_TM`	`Eagle: those examples look like they jump around within the macro`
`18:45.33`	`_Eagle_`	`http://pastebin.ca/15916`
`18:45.45`	`_Eagle_`	`thats what i want to do, strom`
`18:46.24`	`_Eagle_`	`i added a bunch of verbose commands because i was trying to debug exactly where it was dying`
`18:46.30`	`_Eagle_`	`thats why it is so long and messy`
`18:46.59`	`Strom_TM`	`why are you using pipes?`
`18:47.15`	`Strom_TM`	`try having extension,priority rather than extension\|priority`
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`18:47.19`	`_Eagle_`	`i tried it with commas... didnt work... so i changed to pipes`
`18:47.22`	`_Eagle_`	`doesnt work either way`
`18:47.38`	`_Eagle_`	`i always used to use pipes... long before commas worked`
`18:47.52`	`Strom_TM`	`GotoIf($[${ACCEPTCALL} = 2] ? s\|16)`
`18:47.55`	`Strom_TM`	`shouldnt this read`
`18:48.04`	`Strom_TM`	`GotoIf($[${ACCEPTCALL} = "2"] ? s\|16)`
`18:48.19`	`_Eagle_`	`umm...`
`18:48.50`	`_Eagle_`	`dunno`
`18:48.55`	`_Eagle_`	`its not that way in the examples`
`18:48.59`	`_Eagle_`	`they dont use quotes`
`18:49.36`	`Strom_TM`	`thats how my gotoifs are and they work`
`18:50.01`	`DarthClue`	`_Eagle_: try "${ACCEPTCALL}" = "2", also, what shows on the cli?`
`18:50.12`	`Strom_TM`	`GotoIf($["${EXTEN}" = "5552368"]?incoming_voicepulse,s,1`
`18:50.53`	`_Eagle_`	`darth:`
`18:51.17`	`_Eagle_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:51.17`	`_Eagle_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:51.17`	`_Eagle_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:51.17`	`_Eagle_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:54.52`	`_Eagle_`	`i added the quotes, as instructed... still doesnt work`
`18:55.36`	`_Eagle_`	`instead of going to s,20 it just exits the macro.. and goes to the GOTO in the MACRO_RESULT variable`
`18:55.50`	`Strom_TM`	`take the spaces out around the question mark`
`18:56.54`	`DarthClue`	`just the one after the question mark should do it.`
`19:00.23`	`_Eagle_`	`that did it!`
`19:00.39`	`_Eagle_`	`took out the spaces, and it works!`
`19:00.48`	`_Eagle_`	`thank you thank you thank you thank you!!`
`19:00.54`	`Strom_TM`	`yay! now was that worth all the pointless bitching?`
`19:00.59`	`_Eagle_`	`ive spent like 3 hours on this!`
`19:01.20`	`_Eagle_`	`strom: yes... actually.. because if i hadn't bitched, i wouldn't have found the error :-)`
`19:01.30`	`_Eagle_`	`thank you very much everyone!`
`19:01.36`	`Strom_TM`	`you're welcome :)`
`19:01.58`	`_Eagle_`	`i guess i'm too used to C where whitespace is ignored`
`19:02.09`	`_Eagle_`	`didnt even THINK about the extra whitespace in extensions.conf`
`19:02.39`	`_Eagle_`	`thanks again! enjoy the rest of your day :-)`
`19:02.58`	`_Eagle_`	`oh... btw...`
`19:03.05`	`_Eagle_`	`dunno if its just me here...`
`19:03.10`	`_Eagle_`	`but when i tried to compile today's CVS...`
`19:03.23`	`_Eagle_`	`it crashed my machine.. total lock up... needed a power cycle`
`19:03.33`	`_Eagle_`	`old versions never did that`
`19:03.54`	`_Eagle_`	`so i rebooted, and tried again... this time doing a make where i left off.. instead of doing a make clean first`
`19:03.58`	`_Eagle_`	`and it worked....`
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`19:04.09`	`_Eagle_`	`but then i tried recompiling again, after i upgraded libpri...`
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`19:04.24`	`_Eagle_`	`and same thing happened... computer froze during compile... at a different point in the code`
`19:04.40`	`_Eagle_`	`again, never happened with other versions... only today's CVS (last time i upgraded was a few months ago)`
`19:04.55`	`_Eagle_`	`in case anyone else mentions a freeze up or whatever... just wanted to let you know`
`19:05.37`	`_Eagle_`	`i dont have time to debug it now though... i'm late`
`19:05.42`	`_Eagle_`	`thanks again... seeya`
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`19:07.43`	`iheartcanada`	`hi, i have just installed sjphone, how do i test that i have it installed and configured correctly for use`
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`19:13.49`	`Strom_TM`	`hey! it's bkw!`
`19:13.58`	`Wonka`	`happens...`
`19:18.38`	`fa__`	`hm`
`19:18.52`	`iheartcanada`	`what does a company like sipphone.com do for you?`
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`19:34.18`	`dyl0n`	`hat zuf�llig grade jemand eine gultigen dvbshop rabattcode da?`
`19:35.33`	`doughecka`	`why, yes, I think we do`
`19:35.42`	`NewSole`	`lol`
`19:39.06`	`iheartcanada`	`hey i am a little confused, what's the difference between setting up your own asterisk box and using sipphone.com?`
`19:39.15`	`blitzrage`	`nothing`
`19:39.33`	`blitzrage`	`other than the convenience of being able to do whatever you want with your own Asterisk`
`19:39.42`	`doughecka`	`aaannd therea ya have it folks, NOTHING!`
`19:45.49`	`iheartcanada`	`oh`
`19:45.50`	`iheartcanada`	`thx`
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`19:54.16`	`NewSole`	`anyone alive`
`19:54.23`	`Strom_TM`	`no`
`19:54.26`	`NewSole`	`lol`
`19:54.27`	`Strom_TM`	`we all died of anyeurisms`
`19:54.45`	`NewSole`	`this heat must have killed everyone`
`19:56.26`	`NewSole`	`lol... I watched starwars lastnite before bed`
`19:57.15`	`NewSole`	`lol`
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`20:09.19`	`sudhir492`	`Anyone here using farfon ATA?`
`20:09.32`	`sudhir492`	`it supports IAX2 only`
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`20:11.10`	`file[laptop]`	`there's an ATA now?`
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`20:14.23`	`dyl0n`	`kennt sich jemand gut it asterisk aus und kann mir bisschen beim einrichten helfen?`
`20:14.26`	`ariel_`	`I actually have not even seen the farfon either.`
`20:18.09`	`ariel_`	`I also remember that Virbiage was going to be making a sip phone. I have also not seen them come out. But I heard that they instead are going to be making an iax ATA unit.`
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`20:30.39`	`pifiu`	`hey ariel got the polycom 501 to work`
`20:30.48`	`pifiu`	`i havent gotten the cisco yet`
`20:30.50`	`pifiu`	`to work at least`
`20:33.26`	`sudhir492`	`I am looking for a cheaper ATA, in quantities of 100, but Linksys has increased the price for us lesser mortals`
`20:33.40`	`djin_ib`	`pifiu, which cisco?`
`20:33.48`	`sudhir492`	`And Digium guys have very arrogant pricing.`
`20:34.26`	`shido`	`how many?`
`20:34.31`	`shido`	`sudhir492, you need 100`
`20:34.31`	`djin_ib`	`sudhir492, sipura`
`20:34.34`	`shido`	`shipped where?`
`20:34.41`	`shido`	`I have 10,000 in stock`
`20:34.45`	`shido`	`pap2nas`
`20:34.48`	`sudhir492`	`Northern VA, near DC`
`20:35.00`	`shido`	`fedex 2 day good enough for you?`
`20:35.01`	`sudhir492`	`yes, PAP2-NA will work`
`20:35.07`	`sudhir492`	`sure. what is the price`
`20:35.27`	`shido`	`I sell them individually for 80 with NuFone minutes`
`20:35.34`	`shido`	`do you need minutes or just the units`
`20:35.50`	`shido`	`I'll work out a bulk discount price for the 100 lot`
`20:36.07`	`sudhir492`	`I dont care for nufone minutes. Most of the ATAs are going to my business clients, for their call centers`
`20:36.30`	`sudhir492`	`just the units`
`20:36.32`	`shido`	`no problem - drop me a line to greg@nufone.net so its logged and I'll reply with a price`
`20:37.05`	`sudhir492`	`sure`
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`20:38.52`	`quickmoney`	`hi, sorry to ask again, if i install Asterisk in my production gungkh232 box, will this affect my h323gk/?if i only use Asterisck SIP function, it should not conflict, correct??`
`20:39.02`	`quickmoney`	`don't hv spare server at this moment;`
`20:39.44`	`sudhir492`	`has anyone here used pa-1688 based ATAs. How is their quality and support?`
`20:40.33`	`sudhir492`	`shido: do you use other ATAs than PAP2-NA and iaxy?`
`20:40.42`	`shido`	`I use a lot of gear`
`20:41.02`	`shido`	`the pap2s are easy for me to configure when Im testing or training an asterisk student`
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`20:53.07`	`festr_`	`!seen zoa`
`20:53.22`	`DarthClue`	`~seen zoa`
`20:53.22`	`jbot`	`zoa <zoa@82.103.76.147> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 18d 21h 18m 15s ago, saying: 'ciao twisted'.`
`20:53.29`	`festr_`	`thanks DarthClue`
`20:53.47`	`bewest`	`if I"m using Playtones to give a dial tone, how can I stop the sound immediately whenever they enter a number?`
`20:53.47`	`DarthClue`	`The bill is in the mail.`
`20:53.48`	`festr_`	`18days hmmm`
`20:54.34`	`festr_`	`anyway, i have seen jitter patches fot sip channel (bugs.digium.com#3854) anyone have tryed this?`
`20:55.04`	`Qorky`	`hmm i dont have /dev/capi devices. what am i missing ? can anyone please help`
`20:55.31`	`Qorky`	`im running 2.4.26 and have installed my fritz card. drivers seem to load all fine.`
`20:57.22`	`Qorky`	`i modprobe capi and the modules look all good.`
`20:57.55`	`Qorky`	`fcpci 532192 1`
`20:57.56`	`Qorky`	`capi 17760 0`
`20:57.56`	`Qorky`	`kernelcapi 30752 2 [fcpci capi]`
`20:57.56`	`Qorky`	`capiutil 22592 0 [kernelcapi]`
`20:57.56`	`Qorky`	`capifs 4016 0 [capi]`
`20:58.08`	`Qorky`	`what should creat the /dev devices ?`
`21:07.07`	`Qorky`	`does isdn4k-utils create those /dev's ?`
`21:10.47`	`Qorky`	`hmm going round in circles is fun.`
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`21:15.31`	`tabmeister`	`after using ports to compile on FreeBSD what is the next step?`
`21:15.49`	`tabmeister`	`i tried to do make samples however its not recognized`
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`21:37.14`	`The_Duke`	`Matt I just sent you an email`
`21:37.32`	`file`	`he's not here...`
`21:37.38`	`The_Duke`	`ok...`
`21:38.32`	`SwK`	`tabmeister: the port on FBSD is rather old last time I checked... you're better off checking it out from CVS and going that route`
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`21:41.37`	`shido`	`christ`
`21:41.39`	`shido`	`make samples?`
`21:42.17`	`Qorky`	`arg! i cant get get the /dev/capi device`
`21:42.21`	`tabmeister`	`eh :(`
`21:42.52`	`p0lar`	`don't go up in smoke`
`21:43.02`	`Qorky`	`hmm what creates that device ?`
`21:43.03`	`file[laptop]`	`I'm good, i'M GOOD`
`21:43.18`	`tabmeister`	`im running 1.0.3 isnt that the newest ver?`
`21:43.26`	`Qorky`	`topic..`
`21:43.29`	`Wonka`	`tabmeister: rtf topic`
`21:43.29`	`file[laptop]`	`1.0.8 is the newest, LOL`
`21:43.32`	`tabmeister`	`shit :\|`
`21:43.34`	`tabmeister`	`thank you :)`
`21:43.43`	`file[laptop]`	`it's amazing what information is right at your fingertips`
`21:43.54`	`tabmeister`	`yeah how surprising.. im out of it`
`21:45.12`	`tabmeister`	`i downloaded the tar, untarred it however when i run make i get tons of dependency errors`
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`21:46.11`	`tabmeister`	`file[laptop] what did i do this time :o`
`21:46.24`	`file[laptop]`	`you're here, that's a good enough reason`
`21:46.41`	`tabmeister`	`heh`
`21:47.27`	`X-Rob`	`Well.`
`21:47.30`	`tabmeister`	`>:) is the latest version compat with BSD?`
`21:47.35`	`X-Rob`	`Sucks you be you americans, doesn't it.`
`21:47.55`	`X-Rob`	`you have broadvoice that sucks arse, _and_ livevoip eating everyone's money`
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`21:48.31`	`X-Rob`	`whilst we only have voip providers that don't give you what you paid for, never recharge your accounts, and when you do manage to speak to them only talk to you in cantonese or mandarin`
`21:48.32`	`X-Rob`	`oh yeah`
`21:48.33`	`file[laptop]`	`meh some people put LOTS of money into their account...`
`21:48.37`	`X-Rob`	`we've got it good here`
`21:48.38`	`X-Rob`	`sigh`
`21:49.17`	`X-Rob`	`file, has matt (sineapps) contacted you yet?`
`21:49.18`	`telephoneman`	`Does anyone know whats happened with soft-switch.org (Steve Underwood's spandsp site)?`
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`21:50.09`	`file[laptop]`	`he's not on here`
`21:50.16`	`X-Rob`	`eg, no 8)`
`21:50.16`	`file[laptop]`	`his nick is ZX81`
`21:50.21`	`X-Rob`	`Aaah`
`21:50.31`	`X-Rob`	`That's the piece that I didn't know.`
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`21:51.14`	`file[laptop]`	`I never knew this but apparently my cellphone has GPS capabilities`
`21:51.16`	`file[laptop]`	`how sneaky of them...`
`21:51.53`	`X-Rob`	`All US cellphones have GPS capabilities`
`21:51.55`	`X-Rob`	`for your 911 stuff.`
`21:52.31`	`imcdona`	`You can actually track people with the nexttel phones....`
`21:52.38`	`imcdona`	`paraents keeping tracks of kids etc`
`21:52.58`	`dudes`	`hehe'`
`21:53.16`	`SwK`	`shit you dont even need the GPS to track people with a cell phone`
`21:53.37`	`SwK`	`all you need is a couple of field strength meters and their their IEMI`
`21:54.02`	`imcdona`	`Reminds me of following the needle back when I was heavily into CB`
`21:54.03`	`X-Rob`	`...and some way to make the FSM's only pick up the phone's IEMI...`
`21:54.07`	`X-Rob`	`which is the hard bit.`
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`21:55.13`	`SwK`	`X-Rob: why is that so hard... its not like the stuff is using strong crypto`
`21:55.44`	`X-Rob`	`well. a FSM is usually an analogue device. With no concept of the contents of the frequency.`
`21:56.13`	`SwK`	`well yeah so its not as simple as I made it sound, but its still not a hard task`
`21:56.21`	`dudes`	`Anyone know of a dual VGA video card (no DVI or TV-out.) Just two monitor outpurs`
`21:56.48`	`X-Rob`	`most dual cards have an adaptor that will convert DVI to VGA`
`21:56.57`	`SwK`	`dudes: what X-Rob said`
`21:57.24`	`dudes`	`X-Rob - thanks ... I didn't know that`
`21:57.33`	`SwK`	`jsut go look at compusa they have several in the not to expensive range`
`21:57.39`	`SwK`	`(ie: sub 100usd)`
`21:58.13`	`DarthClue`	`dudes: you can also pick up that adapter for a fairly reasonable price as well.`
`21:58.42`	`dudes`	`I've been trying to bridge a sis315, but I don't think the card has the right chipset.`
`21:59.22`	`dudes`	`I think I'll upgrade to an nvidia Dual Head so I can use both monitors and use the sis315 for TV only (as it is now.)`
`22:00.37`	`dudes`	`Anyone ever used a Mobile XP`
`22:00.43`	`file[laptop]`	`you can't touch my Powerbook`
`22:00.48`	`file[laptop]`	`it has magical powers`
`22:05.51`	`X-Rob`	`WoooOOOooo`
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`22:15.13`	`PatrickDK`	`heh, just go matrox video cards`
`22:15.24`	`PatrickDK`	`they are so much faster, except at games`
`22:15.34`	`PatrickDK`	`but then, who plays games anyways`
`22:16.07`	`darwin35`	`http://pastebin.ca/15920 need some feed back on these extenesions .`
`22:17.02`	`darwin35`	`not sure I got all the maping right`
`22:17.23`	`darwin35`	`but put alot of work into it`
`22:21.12`	`darwin35`	`food is over Rated .. joltcola and chips and twix bars`
`22:21.36`	`ManxPower`	`Those are food!`
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`22:22.43`	`Umaro`	`Hey guys, anyone here have a working SER/Asterisk system running? Having some small issues`
`22:23.06`	`ManxPower`	`darwin35, put them into test/production and see what happens`
`22:23.33`	`JerJer[mobile]`	`Umaro: i am sure many have that combo running`
`22:23.33`	`ManxPower`	`Cancel my subscription. I don't want your issues.`
`22:24.15`	`JerJer[mobile]`	`moo`
`22:24.35`	`darwin35`	`well I am just needing some feed back on them I am just mapping fuctions that are out in tthe real world .`
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`22:25.10`	`darwin35`	`and make a fully functiona; pbx with all the mapped features`
`22:26.18`	`darwin35`	`been a good bit of fun doing it . but need feedback now and then`
`22:27.02`	`ManxPower`	`darwin35, My expectations for users is pretty low. My users don't use text messaging on their cell phones becuse "it's too complicated"`
`22:27.19`	`darwin35`	`ahh`
`22:28.23`	`darwin35`	`well I just thought it would be nice to put out a enten.conf when I am done that is fully functional for all skill levels`
`22:28.50`	`darwin35`	`my bad`
`22:29.22`	`darwin35`	`and sms is pain on a cell phone`
`22:29.35`	`ManxPower`	`darwin35, It's really how you look at it. Do you build a dialplan interface to custom calling features FIRST, then add a web interface, or do you do it the other way around.`
`22:29.40`	`darwin35`	`unless your just broadcasting to them`
`22:29.42`	`ManxPower`	`We will be doing it the other way around.`
`22:30.26`	`ManxPower`	`darwin35, "it's too complicated" means "too complicated to READ text messages". I don't even know of they are aware they can SEND them.`
`22:30.40`	`darwin35`	`I thought build the pbx then the web interface`
`22:30.46`	`darwin35`	`but maybe wrong`
`22:31.19`	`PatrickDK`	`hmm, it's a pain to read text messages on my cellphone`
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`22:31.25`	`PatrickDK`	`sending them is pretty easy though`
`22:36.57`	`mmlj4`	`hey ManxPower :-)`
`22:37.25`	`darwin35`	`well it helped me to kill time today and the last week`
`22:37.46`	`darwin35`	`while we wait for new replacement hardware to cooem in`
`22:37.48`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, Did you work on the two cat5 jacks that had problems?`
`22:37.51`	`mmlj4`	`um, did you leave a notebook in the server room at the new office? or have you been there yet?`
`22:38.04`	`mmlj4`	`i fixed the kitchen one, but don't know where the other one is`
`22:38.24`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, No.`
`22:38.28`	`mmlj4`	`and punched down most of platinum, etc.`
`22:38.36`	`ManxPower`	`Nifty.`
`22:38.52`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, Would having the jack letter/number help?`
`22:39.17`	`mmlj4`	`no, that would make it too easy :-)`
`22:39.43`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, They are in the trouble ticket for the issue that was assigned to you on friday.`
`22:40.16`	`mmlj4`	`hey, you want I buy you lunch in miss'ippi one day, so you can tutor me on extensions.conf?`
`22:40.33`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, You should have attended Astricon. 8-)`
`22:40.38`	`mmlj4`	`oh, i didn't get any email from cerberus, i'll have to look at it`
`22:40.41`	`ManxPower`	`The next one is near Los Angels in Oct`
`22:40.59`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, nod There's some oddity with cerberus and e-mail notifications`
`22:41.06`	`mmlj4`	`there's the boot camp thingies, i might cough up the dough for that one year`
`22:41.29`	`ManxPower`	`Ticket #66276-208: Jeanne no network link`
`22:41.31`	`mmlj4`	`i figure 2 fair-sized jobs and the $5000 fee is covered, etc.`
`22:41.57`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, Well, Europe was FUN`
`22:42.01`	`mmlj4`	`hmm,. october... when is oscon?`
`22:42.10`	`ManxPower`	`oscon?`
`22:42.41`	`mmlj4`	`http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/`
`22:42.46`	`mmlj4`	`august, though`
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`22:43.07`	`mmlj4`	`i was thinking of taking the hallway track, if i could get out there, etc.`
`22:43.13`	`ManxPower`	`Ah. I would only consider a couple of conferences. Usenix, Astricon, etc.`
`22:43.25`	`carbon60`	`Evening all.`
`22:43.27`	`darwin35`	`BSDCon`
`22:43.47`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, Ever see this: http://safari.oreilly.com/`
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`22:43.52`	`carbon60`	`Is it true that channel vars don't propagate into the context a dial macro executes in?`
`22:43.53`	`mmlj4`	`someone on the baton rouge LUGlist is asking about the security usenix con`
`22:43.53`	`sarahemm`	`hihi`
`22:44.29`	`mmlj4`	`yeah, safari.. i don't read fast enough to make it worth my while`
`22:44.42`	`mmlj4`	`i mean, i can read, and do all the time, but books never end up getting read around here`
`22:44.54`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, Make the time.`
`22:45.33`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, I used it the other day to use the book Practical Perl (which I own, but didn't have with me) to look up some stuff.`
`22:46.23`	`mmlj4`	`so, about lunch...`
`22:46.50`	`ManxPower`	`mmlj4, Maybe after the 4th of July?`
`22:46.56`	`mmlj4`	`ok, fair enough`
`22:47.00`	`ManxPower`	`I've not even made it HOME yet.`
`22:47.05`	`mmlj4`	`heh`
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`22:51.56`	`*** join/#asterisk shmaltz (~chatzilla@69.28.255.210)`
`22:52.00`	`shmaltz`	`hi every1`
`22:52.03`	`sarahemm`	`hih`
`22:53.27`	`shmaltz`	`~news`
`22:53.35`	`shmaltz`	`~cmon`
`22:54.11`	`shmaltz`	`~sun`
`22:54.11`	`jbot`	`methinks sun is starting to "sneak" it's way towards the horizon... a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace`
`22:54.19`	`shmaltz`	`~sunday`
`22:54.19`	`jbot`	`Sunday sucks, because tomorrow is monday (See monday). Also, sunday is the day we do all the stuff we should've done Saturday, but didn't.`
`22:54.24`	`sarahemm`	`heh`
`22:54.27`	`sarahemm`	`today is pseudofriday for me`
`22:54.31`	`shmaltz`	`~monday`
`22:54.31`	`jbot`	`hmm... monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix`
`22:54.32`	`sarahemm`	`last day of work before my weekend!`
`22:54.44`	`shmaltz`	`sarahemm, why?`
`22:54.49`	`sarahemm`	`shmaltz: why what?`
`22:54.57`	`shmaltz`	`why is it friday for you?`
`22:55.09`	`sarahemm`	`oh`
`22:55.15`	`shmaltz`	`~tuesday`
`22:55.16`	`jbot`	`Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday).`
`22:55.17`	`sarahemm`	`because i work 4 days on 4 days off. so my work week doesn't sync with weekdays`
`22:55.27`	`shmaltz`	`hmmm, I see`
`22:55.28`	`sarahemm`	`so this week i work until today, and i'm off mon-thurs, then back from fri-mon in theory`
`22:55.33`	`sarahemm`	`but i have monday off to take classes mon-fri...`
`22:55.34`	`shmaltz`	`~wednesday`
`22:55.34`	`jbot`	`Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week.`
`22:55.42`	`shmaltz`	`~thursday`
`22:55.42`	`jbot`	`"This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent)`
`22:55.53`	`shmaltz`	`~friday`
`22:55.53`	`jbot`	`Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway.`
`22:56.01`	`shmaltz`	`~saturday`
`22:56.02`	`jbot`	`Saturday is the day that sucks the least!`
`22:56.13`	`shmaltz`	`but it still sucks :)`
`22:56.51`	`sarahemm`	`heh`
`22:56.55`	`sarahemm`	`for me it did 'cuz i was working :P`
`22:56.59`	`sarahemm`	`and would rather have been out doing_stuff`
`22:58.02`	`shmaltz`	`sarahemm you in the US?`
`22:58.11`	`sarahemm`	`nope, canadia`
`22:58.12`	`sarahemm`	`why?`
`22:58.22`	`shmaltz`	`mon is July 4th so no classes here`
`22:59.12`	`sarahemm`	`ahh`
`22:59.20`	`sarahemm`	`not this monday`
`22:59.25`	`sarahemm`	`this monday is june 27 :)`
`22:59.36`	`slup`	`quick distro poll:`
`22:59.38`	`slup`	`for running * which distro do you recomend?`
`22:59.58`	`sarahemm`	`gentoo`
`23:00.03`	`shmaltz`	`slup, which one do you currently use?`
`23:00.16`	`slup`	`fedora C2`
`23:00.47`	`shmaltz`	`you can stay with that one. It should work just fine`
`23:01.00`	`Qorky`	`hmm anyone able to get multiple fritz cards to work in the same machine?`
`23:01.03`	`Qorky`	`I'm stuck.`
`23:01.39`	`slup`	`out of FC2 and RH9 is there much in it?`
`23:02.12`	`slup`	`or any of the fedora cores`
`23:02.18`	`shmaltz`	`you can stay with FC2 vs RH`
`23:02.38`	`slup`	`to be open linux isn't my fortey`
`23:02.43`	`shmaltz`	`there is nothing better in RH vs FC2 regarding asterisk`
`23:03.08`	`shmaltz`	`slup, it's ok, a lot of us started out that way`
`23:03.10`	`slup`	`what do you run?`
`23:03.18`	`shmaltz`	`slackware,`
`23:03.34`	`shmaltz`	`but for someone not sure what to run slackware might be the last coice`
`23:03.43`	`slup`	`so your a bit deeper into linux now then`
`23:03.46`	`shmaltz`	`it doesn't have any package managment`
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`23:04.04`	`shmaltz`	`now, yep, before nope`
`23:04.17`	`shmaltz`	`it took asterisk to get me into linux :)`
`23:04.18`	`slup`	`yea i have a set of linux videos i'm watching which is filling me in to a point`
`23:04.29`	`slup`	`yea me too`
`23:04.40`	`shmaltz`	`slup, stop that, the best teacher is experience`
`23:05.01`	`sarahemm`	`the best way to learn things is to play with linux, break things horribly, and spend days recovering :)`
`23:05.02`	`slup`	`i've been saying for years and years got to get into that`
`23:05.04`	`sarahemm`	`you learn a lot like that.`
`23:05.12`	`shmaltz`	`use guides on the internet to get you thru it, and then just play around`
`23:05.32`	`shmaltz`	`I couldn't agree more with sarahemm`
`23:05.38`	`shmaltz`	`gtg guys`
`23:05.40`	`slup`	`trouble is i have a business to run and Linux and * have a nasty way of making fortnights disapear :S`
`23:05.40`	`shmaltz`	`c ya`
`23:05.51`	`shmaltz`	`slup, same here`
`23:05.58`	`shmaltz`	`but that's the only way`
`23:06.17`	`slup`	`see ya shmaltz`
`23:06.19`	`slup`	`thanks`
`23:07.02`	`slup`	`yea i'm trying to get to the stage where i have a working * so i can break fix learn on it`
`23:07.37`	`sarahemm`	`heh`
`23:07.38`	`sarahemm`	`nods`
`23:07.51`	`sarahemm`	`* is nifty :)`
`23:08.04`	`Qorky`	`hmm anyone able to get multiple fritz!Card PCI to work in the same machine?? please.`
`23:08.17`	`sarahemm`	`what is a fritz!Card?`
`23:08.17`	`slup`	`i'm dyslexic, read books when i have to but if i can just have the thing infront of me and push this and pull that and see how it reacts i learn so much more`
`23:08.28`	`sarahemm`	`slup: me too :)`
`23:08.33`	`sarahemm`	`err re: hands on learner, not dyslexic`
`23:08.58`	`slup`	`was going to ask :)`
`23:09.31`	`Qorky`	`sarahemm its a popular isdn card`
`23:09.36`	`sarahemm`	`ahh`
`23:09.43`	`sarahemm`	`ISDN's too expensive here, so not me :)`
`23:10.02`	`slup`	`how long you been working on * sarahemm`
`23:10.18`	`sarahemm`	`almost a month i think`
`23:10.21`	`sarahemm`	`actually, about a month`
`23:10.32`	`slup`	`nice and how far you got?`
`23:10.34`	`sarahemm`	`mostly writing apps and fixing bugs in the * code :)`
`23:10.39`	`sarahemm`	`umm, how far? whatcha mean?`
`23:11.27`	`slup`	`well from what you just said it sounds like you had a head start from the off`
`23:11.37`	`sarahemm`	`heh`
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`23:11.47`	`slup`	`what you had got it to do`
`23:11.53`	`sarahemm`	`linux and networking is my job.. so i'm familiar with it..`
`23:11.56`	`sarahemm`	`ahh`
`23:12.14`	`sarahemm`	`i'm working on TTY/TDD relation functionality mostly, i've not really touched the voice end yet heh`
`23:12.16`	`slup`	`but coding apps and delving in to the source gp girl ;)`
`23:12.31`	`slup`	`ahh ok`
`23:12.44`	`slup`	`*go`
`23:12.51`	`sarahemm`	`i want to get this stuff done, then i'll start owrking on other stuff...`
`23:13.00`	`Damin`	`Hahahaha..`
`23:13.05`	`sarahemm`	`this is an app to be able to use a web browser to make/receive TTY/TDD calls from asterisk..`
`23:13.08`	`sarahemm`	`Damin: meow?`
`23:13.10`	`Damin`	`LiveVoip is bankrupt..`
`23:13.11`	`Damin`	`Well..`
`23:13.18`	`Damin`	`Color ME surprised. ;l)`
`23:13.21`	`slup`	`yea thats the other thing with * even if you are PC technical chances are your not a voice engineer too`
`23:13.24`	`terrapen`	`what did they do?`
`23:13.37`	`sarahemm`	`slup: shrug i've done my fair share of telecom related stuff :)`
`23:13.51`	`sarahemm`	`slup: i work mainly in networking and telecom related stuff but do linux stuff too`
`23:13.56`	`Damin`	`terrapen: Termination / Origination provider. Lemonade Stand ITSP..`
`23:14.08`	`terrapen`	`ah`
`23:14.19`	`terrapen`	`yeah, nobody has ever tried that before...`
`23:14.32`	`Damin`	`Hopefully, the first of many idiots who the market will shake out..`
`23:14.33`	`darwin35`	`I bet alot of these springup overnight companies go under. they dont plan properly and buy all the hardware that is top of the line and then dont get the user base they need to survive`
`23:14.46`	`tzanger`	`I think there's more to it than that, darwin35`
`23:14.54`	`slup`	`sarahemm sounds like the perfect cv for *`
`23:15.28`	`tzanger`	`you'll note that on the list at least one person said they weren't getting charged the right rates, I bet there's some recip stuff going on too`
`23:15.46`	`darwin35`	`i think that all asterisk boxes should auto seach out eachother and make a link and auto route calls`
`23:15.57`	`darwin35`	`one giant asterisk network`
`23:16.05`	`terrapen`	`yeeeehawwwwwww`
`23:16.08`	`slup`	`wel then code it darwin35`
`23:16.16`	`terrapen`	`i finally got OpenBSD working nicely on this Sony Picturebook`
`23:16.17`	`Damin`	`darwin35: Egads.. NO!`
`23:16.31`	`terrapen`	`well, actually, to be precise, OpenBSD worked fine`
`23:16.40`	`terrapen`	`it was X.org that was having problems`
`23:16.48`	`terrapen`	`now to install asterisk :)`
`23:16.53`	`sarahemm`	`slup: heh :)`
`23:16.59`	`darwin35`	`damin why not`
`23:17.00`	`slup`	`:p`
`23:17.04`	`terrapen`	`i wonder if asterisk would run on a Zaurus running OpenBSD`
`23:17.09`	`terrapen`	`if it would have enough power...`
`23:17.29`	`Supaplex`	`depends on what you want it do to.`
`23:17.41`	`terrapen`	`just handle an IAXy`
`23:17.43`	`terrapen`	`no transcodinbg`
`23:18.18`	`terrapen`	`http://www.openbsd.org/zaurus.html`
`23:18.23`	`terrapen`	`^^ perfect little box`
`23:18.36`	`terrapen`	`hard as hell to find`
`23:18.39`	`Supaplex`	`get me one, and i'll eventually tell you. :) hehe`
`23:18.55`	`terrapen`	`buy one on ebay :)`
`23:18.56`	`terrapen`	`$1000`
`23:19.01`	`terrapen`	`or somewhere up there`
`23:20.08`	`Supaplex`	`yikes`
`23:20.55`	`Supaplex`	`if stealing were'nt stealing, I'd resell a few of them to pay off that dumb CC of mine. hehe`
`23:21.10`	`opus__`	`when dialing in realtime, i try to dial SIP/202 in my realtime database which is a user in the realtime database`
`23:21.14`	`opus__`	`but I get channel unavailable`
`23:21.39`	`opus__`	`And when I manually add Dial(SIP/202) to my dial plan I also get channel unavailable... has anyone seen this before?`
`23:22.07`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`opus__, perhapse SIP/202 is not available?`
`23:22.20`	`opus__`	`Its the extension I am dialing from..`
`23:22.39`	`opus__`	`I added rtcachefriends=yes and 'sip show peers' does not work.. Each user is a peer`
`23:23.08`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`your dialing from you too you, and it's unavailable?`
`23:23.17`	`opus__`	`It should ring on the other line`
`23:23.21`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`perhapse somone is on the phone so it is not available?`
`23:23.29`	`Qorky`	`any have an extensions.conf example for capi?`
`23:23.31`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`what other line?`
`23:23.37`	`opus__`	`Its a polycom 500`
`23:23.42`	`opus__`	`it should ring from itself`
`23:23.52`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`what is the other line set up as, same sip peer?`
`23:23.53`	`opus__`	`BUt I can't dial anywhere`
`23:23.57`	`opus__`	`Yes`
`23:24.14`	`opus__`	`oh`
`23:24.16`	`opus__`	`chan_sip.c: Peer '202' is trying to register, but not configured as host=dynamic`
`23:24.27`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`if the phone is not registered properly, you can't call it`
`23:24.47`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`has nothing to do with rtcache, has to do with you have it configed wrong`
`23:25.07`	`opus__`	`hmmm.`
`23:25.18`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`how is it going to find the phone?`
`23:25.34`	`opus__`	`But rtcachefriends should eventually allow me to do 'sip show peers' and display the users i have setup in the database, right?`
`23:25.46`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`ummm`
`23:26.03`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`how are you going to call a phone, if asterisk does not know where it is?`
`23:26.27`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`and how is a peer that is not registering going to show up in show peers?`
`23:26.39`	`opus__`	`exactly`
`23:26.48`	`opus__`	`let me truncate the user table and readd the user`
`23:26.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`so fix your config for registration`
`23:26.56`	`ETH_`	`is there anyway to check how many calls in one trunk?`
`23:27.19`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`sigh... I can't do this tonight`
`23:27.59`	`ETH_`	`finally got iax trunk up and running, but not too sure if all calls are trunked or individual iax connections....`
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`23:30.45`	`opus__`	`whoah sip show peers works now`
`23:31.01`	`opus__`	`some of the table columns needed to have a blank '' instead of a NULL`
`23:31.13`	`opus__`	`like allow and disallow callgroup etc`
`23:32.54`	`opus__`	`can I register => in reatltime?`
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`23:35.30`	`Faithful`	`Hey guys, for some reason it seems I have to reboot my system every day or so or I can't make reliable trunk connections to peer IAX servers. I am running 1.0.6-BRIstuffed-0.2.0-RC7j`
`23:36.44`	`Faithful`	`and it is just flakey stuff... like one call is fine the next just times out... cpu load is low... ?`
`23:39.05`	`opus__`	`faithful did you build from source?`
`23:42.15`	`Supaplex`	`terrapen: are the sl5500's any good?`
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`23:51.16`	`sarahemm`	`meep!`
`23:51.18`	`sarahemm`	`hihi DarthClue`
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`23:52.40`	`sarahemm`	`heh`
`23:53.01`	`sarahemm`	`17deg all the time in the DC..`
`23:53.26`	`DarthClue`	`the office is much cooler than the house right now.`
`23:55.04`	`tzanger`	`17oC jesus my testicles would be chatterring at that temp`
`23:55.59`	`sarahemm`	`tzanger: heh. the computers like it :o)`
`23:56.06`	`sarahemm`	`kitriches like it around 27, but they're weird.`
`23:56.33`	`DarthClue`	`sarahemm: is that F or C?`
`23:56.37`	`xai`	`A few months back someone said that * integration w/ ldap was not great. Is that still the case, or ?`
`23:57.23`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`there is an addon out there for ldap lookup, it works`
`23:57.30`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`last I tried it did at least`
`23:57.36`	`sarahemm`	`DarthClue: C`
`23:57.39`	`sarahemm`	`<-- Canadian`
`23:58.12`	`tzanger`	`too cold`
`23:58.16`	`sarahemm`	`lol`
`23:58.19`	`sarahemm`	`there's a lot odd about sarahemm`
`23:58.22`	`tzanger`	`My comfy zone is about 70-72`
`23:58.35`	`tzanger`	`sometimes I like it colder and sometimes warmer but typically speaking`
`23:59.05`	`DarthClue`	`tzanger: it's about 95 with 40% humidity where I'm at and the ac isn't helping any.`
`23:59.15`	`tzanger`	`heh`
`23:59.32`	`xai`	`Its alot easier to keep warm in a cool climate than to keep cool in a hot one, especially with a lot of systems humming.`
`23:59.40`	`tzanger`	`yes`
`23:59.45`	`DarthClue`	`exactly.`
`23:59.47`	`tzanger`	`but I try to never get stuck where a lot of systems are humming`
`23:59.51`	`tzanger`	`drives me absolutely nuts after a while`
`23:59.58`	`tzanger`	`that much white noise is hard on the ears`

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