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| 00:10.51 | Chuji | tzanger : That has got to be BS huh? |
| 00:11.06 | Chuji | That rent my daughter |
| 00:11.40 | tzanger | Chuji: yeah |
| 00:11.45 | tzanger | it's like iloveblackpeople.com |
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| 00:14.51 | hellop | Can someone do me a favor and send me this file via DDC? >http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm. |
| 00:14.58 | hellop | My ISP can't get to it. |
| 00:17.36 | Johnsie | Hmmm... |
| 00:17.57 | Johnsie | Give me a moment, hellop. |
| 00:19.44 | kram | hrm? |
| 00:19.57 | kb1_kanobe | Oh, sorry - just all the away/returns... |
| 00:20.04 | tzanger | ? |
| 00:20.05 | kb1_kanobe | no offence intended. |
| 00:20.06 | newmedian | fickle |
| 00:20.08 | tzanger | what's that got to do with being a mime? |
| 00:20.33 | kb1_kanobe | I thought might have been communicating by gesture. Bad joke. |
| 00:20.38 | tzanger | ha |
| 00:21.02 | tzanger | kram: do you think the Infineon QuadFALC can sync to a 10-bit 2.56MHz E1? |
| 00:21.16 | tzanger | I've got hte datasheet but I haven't dove into it yet |
| 00:21.17 | newmedian | of course, it could be a steganographic trick; kram could be passing messages by the rate of his return/away per minute/hour. |
| 00:21.28 | kram | tzanger: i've never heard of such a thing before |
| 00:21.40 | tzanger | kram: it's a nortel thing |
| 00:22.16 | kram | okay |
| 00:22.56 | tzanger | if it can't I'm gonna have to slipstream something |
| 00:23.08 | tzanger | basically take the 10 bits and accept 8 of them to an outgoing E1 |
| 00:23.15 | tzanger | not particularly fond of attemptin that |
| 00:23.15 | tzanger | oh |
| 00:23.18 | tzanger | forget all that |
| 00:23.23 | tzanger | do you know if __do_dtmf() blocks? |
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| 00:23.31 | kupo | hi! |
| 00:24.20 | tzanger | I can't see it doing that (a quad T1 would only be able to play one dtmf digit at a time, and all spans would block on it then) |
| 00:24.47 | Juggie | i would highly doubt it hah |
| 00:25.33 | Juggie | tzanger, that may be something to discuss in #libpri |
| 00:25.38 | tzanger | no |
| 00:25.40 | tzanger | it's not a PRI thing |
| 00:25.50 | tzanger | but I'll see if anyone's awake there |
| 00:26.04 | Juggie | yah, i know... but matt maintains zaptel too i think |
| 00:27.30 | Johnsie | hellop... |
| 00:27.39 | Johnsie | I mirrored the site (without the author's consent)... |
| 00:27.44 | Johnsie | http://asteriskguide.jdlewis.org/ |
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| 00:38.33 | fugitivo | hello |
| 00:47.09 | Sato1 | hola |
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| 00:48.58 | dca | okay, got booted, so i'll ask again: is it possible to round robin dial multiple asterisk servers? |
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| 01:01.31 | newbien | how many calls can a softphone handle at one time? |
| 01:01.42 | Qwell | newbien: anywhere from 1 to 9000 |
| 01:01.44 | Qwell | depends on the phone |
| 01:02.00 | file | oh no... not this movie... |
| 01:02.10 | Qwell | file: ? |
| 01:02.20 | Sato1 | which one? |
| 01:02.33 | file | Twelve Monkeys |
| 01:02.37 | file | it confuses me so much... |
| 01:02.37 | Qwell | heh |
| 01:02.51 | file | it's like looking at app_voicemail |
| 01:03.00 | Sato1 | good idea for tonight movies, i havent seen that one |
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| 01:03.46 | file | the Andromeda Strain is on tonight too |
| 01:04.08 | DrukenHME | evening all |
| 01:04.10 | file | hi |
| 01:04.30 | blitzrage | zup |
| 01:04.56 | MikeJ[Laptop] | zup? |
| 01:04.58 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hehe |
| 01:05.11 | blitzrage | MikeJ[Laptop]: short form for what is up :) |
| 01:05.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :D |
| 01:06.19 | DrukenHME | is there a contract out for voip peer sharing?? |
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| 01:06.46 | Sato1 | contract? |
| 01:06.48 | DrukenHME | i've noticed the industry doesn't seem to do it much... |
| 01:06.56 | newmedian | bounty, you mean? |
| 01:07.02 | DrukenHME | no... |
| 01:07.35 | Sato1 | you can just use voice over ip, but there are some codecs licenced, if thats what you mean |
| 01:07.38 | DrukenHME | i mean, say i want cheap termination to new york, i would find a voip provider with pri services in NY |
| 01:07.45 | Sato1 | oh |
| 01:08.07 | DrukenHME | rather than making the LD call myself |
| 01:08.17 | DrukenHME | that make more sence? |
| 01:09.21 | DrukenHME | lookin for termination to various places for like .005 to .01 per min, without the monthly fees, one of those traffic only things |
| 01:09.23 | blitzrage | I'm not sure what a contract has to do with that... |
| 01:09.43 | DrukenHME | ok, maybe a contract is a bad way of putting it... |
| 01:09.48 | blitzrage | unless you have a contract with a provider... but I think most people don't really care about it - you pay, you get service. |
| 01:10.00 | blitzrage | just like anything else - don't pay, get cut off |
| 01:10.58 | DrukenHME | yeah, blitzrage, are you gettin what i'm talking about tho? |
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| 01:11.03 | Sato1 | unless you are not in US and the country you are in does not allow doing voip for comercial reasons |
| 01:11.03 | blitzrage | not really :) |
| 01:11.13 | blitzrage | I don't know what is so confusing or what the question is :) |
| 01:11.55 | blitzrage | anyways, I'm heading away from the computer ahead, just had to check email - peas. |
| 01:12.22 | newbien | can most softphones/hardphones take more than one call at the same time? |
| 01:12.39 | DrukenHME | ok... i guess my question is are there any providers here that would do traffic termination for a very low price, without monthly fees, useage only |
| 01:12.56 | Sato1 | newbien, depend on the software or firmware, but must of them can |
| 01:13.08 | newbien | Sato1: thanks |
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| 01:13.43 | Sato1 | DrukenHME, there are, you can find them in www.voip-info.org, there is a list of providers |
| 01:13.51 | Sato1 | newbien, no problem |
| 01:18.07 | blitzrage | DrukenHME: that only happens usually when you agree to a set number of minutes per month |
| 01:18.18 | blitzrage | so basically, the question can be answered with yes and no |
| 01:18.31 | DrukenHME | hehe more or less a "maybe" |
| 01:18.32 | DrukenHME | hehe |
| 01:19.01 | cced | who has made Tormenta 2 PCI Card? |
| 01:19.11 | blitzrage | well... if you want your minutes really cheap, then you have to buy a lot per month, if you just want service and not commit to any minutes per month, then you won't get as good a deal per month |
| 01:20.29 | DrukenHME | yeah... |
| 01:21.07 | DrukenHME | i guess in my mind, i'd rather pay another voip provider for a local termination call, then pay the telco for a LD call |
| 01:21.12 | blitzrage | DrukenHME: yah.... |
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| 01:22.32 | MikeJ_ | DrukenHME, you probably need to negotiate those with the individual carrier |
| 01:23.25 | MikeJ_ | and nobody would or should give you the time of day of .01 unless you are talking about commiting to significant # of minutes |
| 01:24.54 | DrukenHME | MikeJ_: why not? get paid a cent a min for making a local call.... seems stupid not to |
| 01:25.46 | MikeJ_ | keep dreaming you will get that without a commitment |
| 01:25.59 | MikeJ_ | because companies have costs? |
| 01:26.29 | newbien | DrukenHME: iax.cc has prepaid calls at .023/min; dunno about qos tho |
| 01:26.32 | file | anyone wanna buy my laptop? |
| 01:29.15 | MikeJ_ | file, what is it? |
| 01:29.26 | MikeJ_ | and where has it been? |
| 01:29.48 | MikeJ_ | :) |
| 01:29.59 | Silik0n | are you sure you wanna know where his laptop has been? |
| 01:30.05 | MikeJ_ | :D |
| 01:30.07 | file | lol |
| 01:30.20 | file | http://www.averatec.com/archives/5110series.htm |
| 01:30.25 | file | upgraded to 802.11g |
| 01:30.29 | Silik0n | file you can give me your laptop |
| 01:30.32 | file | selling because I want a Powerbook :) |
| 01:30.39 | file | 5110H btw... |
| 01:31.12 | file | you should buy it! |
| 01:31.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | will you clean it first :) |
| 01:32.05 | file | pfft it hasn't been where Silik0n puts his laptops |
| 01:32.06 | MikeJ[Laptop] | how come no one wants to come play with me |
| 01:32.07 | newmedian | Don't you want the DNA evidence? |
| 01:32.21 | MikeJ[Laptop] | file, next to him on the bed? |
| 01:32.31 | file | maybe, I don't know |
| 01:32.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | 996 baby |
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| 01:33.02 | file | k 1 sec |
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| 01:38.37 | cced | who has made Tormenta 2 PCI Card? |
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| 01:40.58 | meppl | gute nacht |
| 01:41.02 | implicit | anyone know of carriers offering SMS origination? |
| 01:41.10 | newbien | softphone rings while your already talking to someone? how do you answer? |
| 01:41.44 | file | newbien: uh it's dependent on the softphone, read it's instructions |
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| 01:42.40 | newbien | file: i would read the instructions if there were any ;) kphone,linphone,kiax all have no info |
| 01:42.47 | file | well then you plat with it |
| 01:42.56 | file | there is no set standard on how a softphone is supposed to act |
| 01:42.57 | mmlj4 | newbien: WHICH softphone? and have you READ THE FREAKING MANUAL? |
| 01:43.09 | newbien | file, play with it? |
| 01:43.12 | kupo | calm yourself mmlj4 |
| 01:43.21 | file | newbien: yes, play with it |
| 01:43.23 | file | experiment |
| 01:43.56 | newbien | mmlj4: no man for kphone or kiax; linphone has no info about subject |
| 01:44.22 | newbien | file, k, thanks, just curious |
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| 01:45.59 | RickTick | hello All: Anyone using any Open-Source software for prepaid billing? |
| 01:47.35 | mmlj4 | newbien: sorry, i lost my cool. you're right, kphone hasn't a manual |
| 01:49.35 | FuriousGeorge | what should i be doing to get the chat feature in eyebeam working with *, or at least while its running |
| 01:49.48 | FuriousGeorge | i find exactly 0 info about it on the googlenet |
| 01:50.21 | newbien | mmlj4: no problemo ;) |
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| 01:50.46 | file | FuriousGeorge: you can't |
| 01:50.55 | |Vulture| | sup guys |
| 01:50.56 | FuriousGeorge | really |
| 01:51.02 | file | FuriousGeorge: asterisk does not support it |
| 01:51.15 | FuriousGeorge | file: i see |
| 01:51.23 | |Vulture| | wow usually you don't hear "you can't" in the * channel |
| 01:51.31 | FuriousGeorge | that explains the lack of docs |
| 01:51.33 | file | want me to rephrase? |
| 01:51.39 | FuriousGeorge | yes |
| 01:51.41 | file | "You can't... on a normal build in the real world" |
| 01:51.46 | FuriousGeorge | in the positive |
| 01:51.51 | FuriousGeorge | oh well |
| 01:51.56 | file | "You might be able to when I finish this patch" |
| 01:52.04 | FuriousGeorge | sweet, you da man! |
| 01:52.21 | file | awww how nice |
| 01:52.23 | file | care to donate? |
| 01:52.33 | FuriousGeorge | wheres your cause.com |
| 01:52.45 | file | joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca - Paypal accepted! :) |
| 01:52.56 | FuriousGeorge | lol, seriously, are you working on that |
| 01:52.59 | file | yes |
| 01:53.10 | FuriousGeorge | impressive |
| 01:53.13 | file | in fact on my internal build if you message my voicemailmain extension, it'll message back how many new messages you have :) |
| 01:53.29 | FuriousGeorge | you should start a thing with a code bounty. i'd donate |
| 01:53.34 | cced | who has made Tormenta 2 PCI Card? |
| 01:54.01 | FuriousGeorge | and by a thing, i mean some sort of web page |
| 01:54.12 | tzanger | cced: why don't you read up at zapatatelephony.org |
| 01:54.16 | file | meh I'm just a messaging sorta guy ;) |
| 01:54.20 | tzanger | are you the guy who emailed me trying to clone the damn thing? |
| 01:54.31 | FuriousGeorge | me? |
| 01:54.33 | FuriousGeorge | no |
| 01:54.47 | file | but still, donations always welcome though! they help fuel the fire |
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| 01:55.04 | tzanger | the tormentia2 is open source/open hardware, but it's also obsoleted by the TE110 and TE410/405 |
| 01:55.27 | FuriousGeorge | file: im sorry but i dont give money to people i meet on irc, as a matter of principal. now if they have some sort of web page thingy, then i'll believe anything i read |
| 01:55.39 | |Vulture| | urg the new zaptel drivers urk me |
| 01:55.42 | |Vulture| | HEAD |
| 01:55.47 | newmedian | Unless you're looking to Hack, it would be less trouble to just purchase a card from Digium |
| 01:55.53 | mmlj4 | FuriousGeorge: but do you have problems with irc people giving *you* money? ;-) |
| 01:56.02 | FuriousGeorge | absolutely not, who wants to start |
| 01:56.09 | file | FuriousGeorge: http://www.sineapps.com/news.php?rssid=403 there I rant slightly about messaging ;) |
| 01:56.10 | mmlj4 | :-) |
| 01:56.24 | newmedian | you have piles? |
| 01:56.25 | tzanger | FuriousGeorge: file's not exactly a newbie here |
| 01:56.29 | cursor | yes |
| 01:56.39 | cursor | ouch |
| 01:56.43 | file | I remember being a newbie... those were the days |
| 01:57.19 | cursor | Do you remember it as if it was yesterday? :-) |
| 01:57.24 | file | not really |
| 01:57.27 | cursor | haha |
| 01:57.39 | FuriousGeorge | tzanger: i am |
| 01:57.54 | |Vulture| | OMG its a pictar of file! |
| 01:57.57 | tzanger | did that aussie that was kidnapped in iraq die? |
| 01:58.15 | file | yes there's a pic of me |
| 01:58.21 | file | I got a better one earlier, lemme find it again |
| 01:58.39 | tzanger | pussy |
| 01:58.42 | cursor | meow |
| 01:58.51 | file | almost got it... |
| 01:58.53 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/kidsnme.jpg |
| 01:58.54 | tzanger | that's me |
| 01:58.55 | file | http://gallery.indigent-networks.com/AtriptoSanFrancisco/p3110144 |
| 01:59.01 | file | bkw on the left, me on the right |
| 01:59.09 | |Vulture| | tzanger: thats a nice pic |
| 01:59.15 | tzanger | I have a stupid grin though |
| 01:59.16 | cursor | If you want to see me, you'll have to get my GmuPG public key |
| 01:59.23 | tzanger | wow |
| 01:59.24 | |Vulture| | oh yea i saw it, I thought it was Got VoIP and it was Got Voice |
| 01:59.24 | cursor | GnuPG works too :-) |
| 01:59.28 | tzanger | bkw's heavier than I thought he was |
| 01:59.30 | file | |Vulture|: exactly |
| 01:59.44 | file | bkw is just like he is on IRC in real life :) |
| 01:59.51 | file | right down to hogging the pillows the cheeky bugger |
| 01:59.57 | cursor | tzanger: is that you on the right? |
| 02:00.01 | tzanger | does your shirt say "got void" or "got voip" ? |
| 02:00.06 | file | tzanger: got voice |
| 02:00.10 | tzanger | ahh |
| 02:00.12 | newmedian | obligatory: "those aren't pillows!" |
| 02:00.23 | tzanger | ha |
| 02:00.26 | |Vulture| | http://www.janpro-fl.com/sex0r/IMG_0174.JPG |
| 02:00.36 | |Vulture| | thats my frog terrerium |
| 02:00.46 | |Vulture| | :P |
| 02:00.51 | FuriousGeorge | [homer] muffin.. aarrrggghhh [/homer] |
| 02:00.54 | file | he left me with 2 pillows, and he got 3 |
| 02:00.56 | file | very unfair |
| 02:01.05 | |Vulture| | file: I hope you hogged the covers! |
| 02:01.13 | tzanger | |Vulture|: cool, but totally out of focus pic |
| 02:01.20 | file | not really, I usually fell asleep before I got under the covers |
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| 02:01.42 | file | 4 hour timezone difference screwed with my mind |
| 02:01.57 | |Vulture| | tzanger: yea I know I didn't take it |
| 02:02.16 | |Vulture| | tzanger: I let my gf do it... last thing I let her do! :P |
| 02:02.51 | tzanger | heh I know why I hang out on efnet |
| 02:02.59 | tzanger | "I'll hack your boxers... the ones you're wearing!" |
| 02:03.03 | tzanger | "I'm not into doods" |
| 02:03.06 | tzanger | "But I'm a pretty man" |
| 02:03.10 | tzanger | hahahahaha |
| 02:03.43 | Silik0n | efnet rulez |
| 02:03.49 | cursor | effingnet |
| 02:03.59 | Silik0n | efnet home of the DDoS |
| 02:04.39 | cursor | Now look what you've done - you scared FG away |
| 02:04.52 | Silik0n | oh well |
| 02:05.04 | cursor | :-) |
| 02:05.47 | tzanger | FG? |
| 02:05.55 | cursor | FuriousGeorge |
| 02:05.55 | tzanger | Foreign Girl? |
| 02:05.57 | tzanger | oh |
| 02:05.57 | tzanger | heh |
| 02:06.06 | cursor | probably, yes |
| 02:07.35 | Silik0n | just remember that lisa, 18, 36D from NYC could really be Bob, 40, 275 from arkansas |
| 02:07.50 | MikeJ[Laptop] | or ken. |
| 02:08.00 | tzanger | heh |
| 02:08.00 | Silik0n | hah |
| 02:08.04 | tzanger | but he could be 36D too |
| 02:08.10 | newmedian | someone with sticky digiums |
| 02:08.49 | |Vulture| | tzanger: nice one |
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| 02:33.56 | theHub | #show channels |
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| 02:37.01 | PTG123 | hey anyone here use livevoip, voipjet, or nufone? |
| 02:38.16 | tzanger | I use nufone |
| 02:38.29 | newbien | PTG123: no, still researching the voip providers; many ppl here say their all about the same |
| 02:38.52 | PTG123 | Well just curious complaints anyone has about them, or things they would like to see better about them, products they would like to see or whatever :) |
| 02:39.15 | tzanger | service rocks, customer service really isn't there but I've never really needed it |
| 02:39.33 | newbien | PTG123: broadvoice had a congestion problem disallowing ppl making calls for about 4 days this week |
| 02:39.51 | PTG123 | yah downtime is a common thread with alot of the providers. |
| 02:40.03 | PTG123 | tzanger, how is the service not there? |
| 02:40.12 | newbien | PTG123: which providers have the most/least downtime? |
| 02:40.20 | tzanger | PTG123: I said the service rocks, the CS could use work |
| 02:40.32 | PTG123 | newbien, from what i heard they ALL have downtime... nufone probably has the least, but doesn't offere dids |
| 02:40.33 | tzanger | I've *never* had downtime with nufone, not in 18 months of using them |
| 02:40.43 | PTG123 | yah how is the CS not there is what i am saying |
| 02:40.48 | tzanger | nufone does have DIDs but just not outside of some select MI and IL areas |
| 02:40.53 | PTG123 | like they don't respond to emails timely, etc? |
| 02:41.06 | tzanger | PTG123: just hard to get answers from them outside of "it seems to work for everyone else" |
| 02:41.23 | tzanger | I usually just come in here and bug jerjer. To their credit though, I've never had an issue that was their problem |
| 02:41.54 | tzanger | you have to prove you have some clue (provide some debug results, etc.) and then they'll start to listen |
| 02:42.49 | PTG123 | tzanger, so why do you use them even though they are more exp3ensive then others? |
| 02:43.10 | tzanger | PTG123: I won't flip providers for a half or even quarter cent a minute difference |
| 02:43.16 | tzanger | and as I said, THEY JUST WORK |
| 02:43.22 | tzanger | that is worth its weight in gold |
| 02:43.36 | PTG123 | originally were the providers just not there? |
| 02:43.42 | tzanger | I refuse to nickle and dime this shit and then constantly piss about with testing proviers |
| 02:43.42 | PTG123 | they were the only choice? |
| 02:43.49 | sean | get multiple outbound providers. |
| 02:43.53 | tzanger | PTG123: nah, I tried voipjet, sixtel, livevoip, etc |
| 02:44.06 | tzanger | sean: that's what I'm saying, I refuse to piss around doing that |
| 02:44.15 | sean | <shrug> |
| 02:44.23 | tzanger | I have a couple of providers, one which provides very cheap per-min to areas I call a lot, and nufone for everything else |
| 02:44.29 | sean | it's trivial to flip over.. but I don't run a "real" service.. |
| 02:44.33 | sean | just playing for now. |
| 02:44.39 | PTG123 | tzanger: who do you use for the cheap per minute areas? |
| 02:44.41 | tzanger | I want it ot work, not constantly sit there and "oh does provider x have crappy audio today?" |
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| 02:44.55 | tzanger | PTG123: I am signing up with unlimitel.ca on monday |
| 02:45.08 | sean | my did provider charges $0.011 (CDN) in-network. |
| 02:45.29 | tzanger | sean: yeah that sounds like unlimitel |
| 02:45.35 | sean | $0.04 out (US48+Can) |
| 02:45.40 | sean | yeah.. it is. |
| 02:45.42 | tzanger | yup |
| 02:45.53 | sean | and I have nufone for out-of-network.. |
| 02:46.17 | tzanger | sean: that's exactly what I'm planning |
| 02:46.18 | sean | only because the buyin was so cheap, and they take paypal (and I happened to have some cash in my PP acct.) |
| 02:46.27 | sean | tzanger: where are you? |
| 02:46.29 | tzanger | 'although I just learned that asterilink is anthm/bkw |
| 02:46.37 | tzanger | sean: southwestern ontario |
| 02:46.42 | sean | ah.. |
| 02:47.02 | PTG123 | i wonder how much asterisk business is canadian |
| 02:47.25 | sean | I'm guessing a lot.. (-: |
| 02:47.32 | sean | we hate our telcos (-; |
| 02:47.44 | tzanger | :-) |
| 02:47.59 | PTG123 | hah |
| 02:48.09 | PTG123 | so any plans or features you wish any of these guys would provide? |
| 02:48.30 | tzanger | nope, I just want voice termination |
| 02:48.36 | tzanger | maybe a little origination with unlimitel |
| 02:48.56 | sean | heh.. last time I had a run-in with Bell (they wouldn't service the line because it's terminated in the next building over, and they couldn't get in), I threatened to pump 220v back down the line (-: |
| 02:49.14 | sean | not that I'd actually do it, of course (for the record) |
| 02:49.16 | ManxPower | I don't suppose anyone has information about mobile operators in sweeden? |
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| 02:51.07 | drraid | Can a single FXO x100p modem manage more than 10 voip lines simultaniously? |
| 02:52.29 | ManxPower | drraid: Yes, if you only want to have one call using the X100P at any one time. |
| 02:52.54 | ManxPower | The X100P (which is no longer sold by Digium) connects Asterisk to the telco. |
| 02:54.31 | drraid | ManxPower, what would you advise for hardware for managing a t1 worth of lines with asterisk |
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| 02:55.54 | PTG123 | drraid: a tnt |
| 02:55.58 | PTG123 | or a max :) |
| 02:56.08 | MikeJ[Laptop] | blitzrage, you around? |
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| 02:58.05 | ManxPower | drraid: TE110P is the Digium T-1/E-1 single port card. Digium also has two different 4-port cards. Sangoma also has Zaptel compatable cards. |
| 02:58.16 | ManxPower | drraid: More information at www.digium.com |
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| 03:00.19 | drraid | Ok |
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| 03:00.21 | drraid | thank you |
| 03:00.54 | PTG123 | why use a pc server to terminate a t1, you can get a tnt made to do 20 t1s for $2500, it can actually transcode 500 calls at once, in g729 |
| 03:01.13 | PTG123 | when you need a xeon to do 40 on a pc |
| 03:03.06 | Damin | PTG123: IAX2. ;) |
| 03:03.23 | PTG123 | why would i want to use iax2, so my callas are more latent? |
| 03:04.22 | Damin | PTG123: No, so you can handle up to 3x more calls in the same bandwidth.. |
| 03:04.38 | PTG123 | not true |
| 03:04.41 | PTG123 | at all |
| 03:05.10 | Damin | PTG123: Comparing SIP to IAX2 w/ Trunking overhead? |
| 03:05.20 | W1thdraw | can somone point me to a guide on how to config my asterisk sip config for my spa841 phone |
| 03:05.26 | PTG123 | trunking overhead saves like 2k per channel maybe |
| 03:05.43 | Damin | PTG123: Maybe? |
| 03:05.54 | Damin | PTG123: But you don't really know, do you? ;) |
| 03:06.09 | PTG123 | if your using g729 your getting 10kbps per channel, i don't think bw should be an issue |
| 03:06.17 | Damin | PTG123: I'll give you another reason.. Dundi.. |
| 03:06.21 | PTG123 | i am stating a fact |
| 03:06.37 | Damin | PTG123: It's braindead simple to build fault tolerance and route preference using Dundi. |
| 03:07.02 | Damin | PTG123: Actually, g729 overhead is 8k per leg, so 16k total. |
| 03:07.12 | PTG123 | thats not true at all |
| 03:07.21 | newbien | W1thdraw: i had luck with fwd iax registry and ast* conf scripts at the fwd info page for iax registry; might get you started |
| 03:07.42 | Damin | PTG123: No? |
| 03:08.03 | Damin | PTG123: How much traffic is g729 per call leg, then, if not 8k? |
| 03:08.04 | PTG123 | are you pulling these numbers from your ass? |
| 03:08.18 | Damin | PTG123: Yes. Straight from my ass. |
| 03:09.14 | Damin | PTG123: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=asterisk_g729 |
| 03:09.38 | Damin | PTG123: "A typical call consumes 64Kbps of voice bandwidth. G.729 reduces the call to 8Kbps (normal IP overhead adds to this number)." |
| 03:09.56 | PTG123 | and where is the extra 8k overhead? |
| 03:09.58 | PTG123 | in that sentence |
| 03:10.13 | Damin | PTG123: It's a bidirectional call. 8k one way, 8k the other. |
| 03:10.22 | Damin | PTG123: Hence, 16k TOTAL overhead. |
| 03:10.42 | PTG123 | ok so when you get a 1mbps link of bandwidth, you only can do 1mbps both ways? :)who the fuck measures bandwidth that way? |
| 03:10.50 | PTG123 | when you say 8k, its both directions |
| 03:10.52 | W1thdraw | on my sip phone it asks for a sip subscriber user id and a password |
| 03:10.53 | PTG123 | and it adds 2k overhead |
| 03:10.57 | PTG123 | which is saved with trunking |
| 03:11.06 | W1thdraw | how do i set that up on the asterisk server side? |
| 03:11.32 | sean | W1thdraw: look at the sample for x-lite in sip.conf |
| 03:11.41 | Damin | PTG123: Yes, but the overhead of a typical SIP setup is about 1200 some bytes per packet, versus about 4 for an IAX packet. |
| 03:12.00 | W1thdraw | thanks |
| 03:12.15 | Damin | PTG123: I'd pull out Mark's presentation from VON that compares the specifics, but it's at my office. ;) |
| 03:12.28 | MikeJ[Laptop] | FIGHT FIGHT !!! |
| 03:12.30 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :) |
| 03:12.40 | sean | heh |
| 03:13.14 | Damin | PTG123: Consider that SIP sends everything as standard text, while IAX2 uses packed binary headers.. |
| 03:13.17 | PTG123 | the point is bandwidth shouldn't be your determinate figure, you need sip someplace in the loop, unless your using per iax2 phones which are crap |
| 03:13.51 | sean | NAT transversal is my determining factor. (-: |
| 03:13.56 | Damin | PTG123: That's funny.. We use IAX2 trunking to our customers, and SIP on their LANs.. |
| 03:14.07 | sean | but, as I said, I'm amateur |
| 03:14.22 | Damin | PTG123: So when you are atttempting to conserve bandwidth to the edge of the network, you would want to use IAX2 trunking. |
| 03:14.41 | citats | forget the signalling and think of the media. with a highly compressed codec the ip/udp headers are bigger than the actual payload |
| 03:14.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | DO IT, DO IT |
| 03:14.46 | sean | file: aww come on, Mr. 506. |
| 03:14.49 | W1thdraw | how do i know what my device id is? |
| 03:14.54 | W1thdraw | do i just make one up |
| 03:15.06 | file | must... not... speak... |
| 03:15.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | DO IT |
| 03:15.19 | file | nope |
| 03:15.21 | PTG123 | 2k |
| 03:15.22 | Damin | PTG123: What happens when your $2,500 TNT (not legally licensed for that price BTW) fails? |
| 03:15.27 | PTG123 | lets see a t1 does 1500kps |
| 03:15.33 | MikeJ[Laptop] | ~troutslap file |
| 03:15.34 | jbot | ACTION slaps file around with a large trout |
| 03:15.36 | MikeJ[Laptop] | DO IT |
| 03:15.45 | file | I'm afraid not |
| 03:15.55 | tzanger | Damin: easy, you replace it |
| 03:16.00 | tzanger | Damin: they're fuckin cheap nowadays |
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| 03:16.18 | MikeJ[Laptop] | L) |
| 03:16.22 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :) |
| 03:16.23 | Damin | tzanger: And while you are replacing it? What is happening to all your call traffic? |
| 03:16.30 | tzanger | Damin: remember though that SIP signaling is really small compared to the voic epayload |
| 03:16.35 | PTG123 | i would much rather rely on a tnt, then asterisk on a pc |
| 03:16.39 | tzanger | Damin: if you don't have spare equipment ON HAND you're an idiot |
| 03:16.44 | tzanger | plain and simple |
| 03:16.45 | PTG123 | but then again talk to everyone who is struggling every day with their asterisk pcs :) |
| 03:16.56 | Damin | tzanger: As opposed to having real-time failover to a secondary box using Dundi w/ Asterisk? |
| 03:16.58 | tzanger | whether it's a second TE405P in your desk drawer or a second MaxTNT in the rack |
| 03:17.17 | tzanger | Damin: and you can't do this with a pair of DS3s and your TNT....why? |
| 03:17.49 | Damin | tzanger: Don't get me wrong. the thought of slapping a DS3 into a TNT and terminating 28 PRI worth of traffic for Voice, Data and Fax is appealing, but by the same token, I'd rather spread my risk around. |
| 03:18.09 | tzanger | Damin: I have 6 DS3s terminated that way |
| 03:18.15 | PTG123 | sip has been around for many many more years then iax2 |
| 03:18.16 | Damin | tzanger: How can you setup an TNT to do automatic, hands-free failover? |
| 03:18.17 | tzanger | and risk is risk :-) |
| 03:18.20 | PTG123 | anything you can do with iax2 you can do with sip |
| 03:18.34 | tzanger | Damin: uh it's all built-in. your switch needs to know it can fail over to the other DS3 but that's it |
| 03:18.55 | Damin | tzanger: What if you don't have a switch and you have multiple carriers that you terminate to? How do you do it then? |
| 03:19.23 | tzanger | Damin: stop designing scenarios to break the statement. |
| 03:19.44 | tzanger | Damin: if you're terminating a DS3 to a MaxTNT you'll have the SAME fucking issues terminating a DS3 to a DS3000P. |
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| 03:19.47 | Damin | tzanger: Then start providing parameters around your arguement. |
| 03:20.05 | Damin | tzanger: Terminating a DS3 to an Asterisk box is retarded. |
| 03:20.14 | tzanger | Damin: why's that? |
| 03:20.23 | PTG123 | an asterisk box can't even transcode an entire ds3 |
| 03:20.26 | tzanger | 45Mbps < 132MB/sec |
| 03:20.30 | PTG123 | nor the pci bus handle the bandwidth |
| 03:20.30 | tzanger | who is talking about transcoding |
| 03:20.34 | MikeJ[Laptop] | damin, what about a bunch of asterisk boxes? |
| 03:20.39 | jets | Welllll if you are doing tdm-> tdm i bet an * box can handle a ds3. |
| 03:20.39 | tzanger | PCI can certainly handle it, almost by 3x |
| 03:20.40 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :) |
| 03:20.41 | Damin | tzanger: Because anyone that puts all their eggs in a single basket is an idiot unless they are running a 5ESS.. |
| 03:20.51 | Corydon76-home | Actually, the PCI bus CAN handle a DS3 |
| 03:20.52 | tzanger | Damin: nonsense. sheer and total nonsense |
| 03:20.57 | PTG123 | tzanger, in theory, practice is usually different |
| 03:21.15 | Damin | tzanger: So you would advocate terminating a DS3 to a single piece of equipment? |
| 03:21.15 | ManxPower | One would assume that Digium would not announce a DS3 card (nor other companies ship them) if a PC could not handle the bandwidth. |
| 03:21.16 | Corydon76-home | But you're right, software transcoding would be difficult for an entire DS3 |
| 03:21.20 | Damin | tzxanger: With no backup? |
| 03:21.27 | tzanger | dant: you take a pair of DS3000Ps in two boxes. you then take a handful of dual or quad xeons which do the transcode and net-term, leaving the raw ulaw->DS3 to the DS3000P boxes. |
| 03:21.32 | PTG123 | what pc can handle encoding 500 g729 streams? |
| 03:21.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | lets practice theory, then continue on with this holy war ;) |
| 03:21.35 | tzanger | simple, fails over nicely and is relatively cheap |
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| 03:21.51 | tzanger | PTG123: you don't do it on one box, don't be silly |
| 03:22.38 | Corydon76-home | Exactly, we use a single box to move the traffic off to other boxes to do the transcoding and routing |
| 03:22.42 | jets | I personally will be buying a few ds3 cards from digium.... just so * can handle least cost routing between the trunks, and not much VoIP. |
| 03:22.59 | PTG123 | a tnt can do it :) |
| 03:23.04 | PTG123 | on one box |
| 03:23.07 | PTG123 | i trust alot more then a pc :) |
| 03:23.11 | jets | Our network has access to the four qwest EAS groups in Idaho allowing us to do in state calling. |
| 03:23.20 | Corydon76-home | PTG123: only because it's doing hardware encoding |
| 03:23.25 | ManxPower | Yeah, but can a TNT transcode into anything useful to Asterisk? |
| 03:23.36 | Damin | PTG123: So where are you getting the legal license to do all the VoIP shit on a TNT for $2,500? |
| 03:23.39 | PTG123 | Corydon-w, exactly its MADE to do it |
| 03:23.41 | jets | tnt's can do sip with the right liscensing i think. |
| 03:23.52 | jets | ya voip on a tnt is hella expensive |
| 03:23.54 | PTG123 | Damin, your buying hardware |
| 03:24.14 | tzanger | PTG123: I actually trust a good PC to a MaxTNT |
| 03:24.14 | Damin | PTG123: Yeah, but you have to have the right hash codes to enable the features in the software. |
| 03:24.15 | PTG123 | ManxPower, uh asterisk uses sip just fine :) |
| 03:24.19 | tzanger | the DSP cards fail quite regularly |
| 03:24.33 | Corydon76-home | PTG123: yeah, you're going to spend a lot more more to do a single TNT box than multiple Asterisk boxes |
| 03:24.36 | tzanger | and I typically see the ethernet CARD go, not just one port |
| 03:24.49 | PTG123 | Corydon-w, you must have missed the pricing thing :) |
| 03:25.01 | jets | I trust a PC w/ linux and asterisk.... i have had a lot of good luck with both. |
| 03:25.01 | Corydon76-home | I have a client right now who wants to keep his TNT billing, but move off all his traffic to Asterisk |
| 03:25.02 | tzanger | PTG123: so a decent server has triple-redundant power, can boot from CF or network and (IMO) is more redundant, albeit not hot-swappable |
| 03:25.02 | jets | A lot. |
| 03:25.03 | Damin | PTG123: YUou still have responded to the licensing question.. |
| 03:25.13 | PTG123 | I can get them for that price, with the correct license |
| 03:25.29 | jets | you can even do 48V power with multiple powre supplies to some servers. |
| 03:25.33 | PTG123 | i don't use pri's if i can help it, so this is a useless arguement to me, i get much cheaper rates without the overhead of a lcoal loop |
| 03:25.35 | Damin | PTG123: Sure you can.. but it's not a legal license.. |
| 03:25.38 | tzanger | PTG123: you can not get *legal* MaxTNTs capable of terminating a DS3 fully-enabled for that price |
| 03:25.41 | PTG123 | yes it is legal |
| 03:25.48 | PTG123 | if company A had a license, and they sell their device with it |
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| 03:25.49 | Damin | PTG123: Bullshit. |
| 03:25.49 | tzanger | PTG123: the fully unlocked cards on ebay aren't exactly legit |
| 03:25.50 | PTG123 | you own the license |
| 03:25.52 | tzanger | they work though :-) |
| 03:26.01 | Damin | PTG123: Bullshit. |
| 03:26.17 | Damin | PTG123: Lucent's license specifically denies transferability.. |
| 03:26.27 | PTG123 | Damin: its illegal to deny transfer of a license |
| 03:26.37 | jets | actually it isn't |
| 03:26.42 | jets | look at all those cray systems that were sold on ebay |
| 03:26.45 | jets | they couldn't transfer the license. |
| 03:26.47 | Damin | PTG123: Tell that to the Supreme Court. |
| 03:26.49 | PTG123 | i am not gonna argue that, thats what i got attorneys for |
| 03:27.01 | jets | so the universities told everyone they had to buy a license after they bought the system. |
| 03:27.02 | PTG123 | the company may not SUPPORT you |
| 03:27.03 | Damin | PTG123: Try and get Lucent support on that box.. |
| 03:27.12 | PTG123 | but they can not deny you the right to use it, and try and force you not to use it |
| 03:27.15 | PTG123 | and i don't need support |
| 03:27.16 | PTG123 | i'll buy 2 |
| 03:27.19 | PTG123 | if one breaks, i'll have another |
| 03:27.28 | PTG123 | hell id by 4 if i cared for that price |
| 03:27.29 | Damin | PTG123: "Will Buy" |
| 03:27.33 | PTG123 | like i said i don't use pris |
| 03:27.37 | Corydon76-home | and if both have the same bug? |
| 03:27.42 | tzanger | actually it's not gonna get to the supreme court, it'll be nullified in whatever district you're in under standard contract law |
| 03:27.46 | Damin | PTG123: So, how many minutes per month are you terminating throuth TNTs and DS3s right now? |
| 03:28.25 | PTG123 | damin: i terminate via sip.. pris and ds3s add alot of extra cost, that terminating via sip to a tier 1 carrier ends up being alot cheaper |
| 03:29.23 | Damin | PTG123: Whatever... So how many minutes are you terminating now? ;) |
| 03:29.42 | PTG123 | if only that was your business :) |
| 03:30.39 | Corydon76-home | Actually, isn't that what you do, Damin? Terminate minutes? |
| 03:30.56 | Damin | PTG123: Back to the original point.. you argued that using a Digium card to terminate a T1 into a PC was stupid and that you could do 20 on a TNT, but now you are saying that you don't even do PSTN termination on PRI and use SIP. |
| 03:31.12 | Damin | Corydon-w: That is one aspect of what we do, yes.. |
| 03:31.34 | PTG123 | i just said why would you do it :) |
| 03:32.06 | Corydon76-home | So it is his business |
| 03:32.09 | Damin | PTG123: And the simple answer is; 1. IAX2 trunking, 2. Dundi provides fault tolerance |
| 03:32.24 | tzanger | Damin: I'm not a fan of DUNDi; it needs a proper billing side |
| 03:32.47 | Damin | tzanger: Depends on how you implement it. We use it for failover route-preference.. |
| 03:32.57 | tzanger | Damin: true enough, billing don't matter then :-) |
| 03:33.02 | tzanger | I meant more as inter-carrier |
| 03:33.31 | Damin | tzanger: Each Quad card has PRI from two different carriers, and they advertise the routes such that if any one box fails, the other box seamlessly handles the traffic. Works great for load balancing outbound calls.. |
| 03:34.08 | tzanger | that woudl work well, yes |
| 03:34.16 | Damin | tzanger: All clients do Dundi peering w/ at least 2 other boxes.. |
| 03:34.43 | Damin | tzanger: Each client advertises their own DID's so routing is totally dynamic.. |
| 03:34.54 | tzanger | Damin: very nice |
| 03:34.55 | Damin | tzanger: It's a breeze... |
| 03:35.03 | W1thdraw | can anyone help me get my spa841 phone to connect to my asterisk box i have no idea what im doing |
| 03:35.19 | Damin | tznager: Our goal was to replicate BGP and OSPF for Telephony.. we've come pretty damn close.. |
| 03:35.36 | Damin | tzanger: All in all, the cost of the hardware was under 6k... |
| 03:35.39 | PTG123 | W1thdraw, whats the probelm |
| 03:36.05 | W1thdraw | ok i have asterisk installed and a spa841 and a spa2002 ata |
| 03:36.16 | W1thdraw | now im lost in the configs files |
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| 03:36.39 | tzanger | Damin: ?? |
| 03:36.43 | tzanger | each quad card is $155 |
| 03:36.45 | tzanger | er $1500 |
| 03:36.46 | PTG123 | W1thdraw, just add a sip.conf entry for each |
| 03:36.49 | tzanger | that's 4500 right there |
| 03:36.51 | Damin | Withdraw: First thing you need to do is get the phone to register against Asterisk. On Asterisk, look at sip.conf. |
| 03:37.13 | Damin | tzanger: Yeah and two gateway boxes are less than $3,000. |
| 03:37.25 | W1thdraw | im looking at http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20config%20sip.conf |
| 03:37.34 | W1thdraw | do i just make up a device id or is there one preset? |
| 03:37.41 | Damin | tzanger: Check out http://www.gtweb.net/gt637.html |
| 03:37.50 | Damin | tzanger: Work great... |
| 03:37.55 | PTG123 | W1thdraw, msg me i will paste you the entry |
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| 03:39.18 | Damin | tzanger: And for the record, $1,500 + $1,500 is $3,000 not $4,500. ;) |
| 03:39.35 | tzanger | Damin: I thought you said each box was connected to *two* peers |
| 03:39.40 | tzanger | that woudl imply three boxes |
| 03:39.52 | harryvv | thats the quad t-1/ |
| 03:39.53 | harryvv | ? |
| 03:40.18 | Damin | tzanger: The CLIENTS are connected to the two gatweway boxes.. ;) |
| 03:40.31 | tzanger | ah |
| 03:40.39 | Damin | tzanger: There are several clients out there, each of them maintain a dundi session to both of the gateways.. |
| 03:41.03 | harryvv | guess so. |
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| 03:41.36 | Damin | tzanger: We use the following route "weights" to determine preference, (lowest wins). |
| 03:41.40 | Damin | A weight of 0-24 indicates a PSTN route to a dedicated carrier. |
| 03:41.40 | Damin | A weight of 25-49 indicates a failover PSTN route to a carrier. |
| 03:41.41 | Damin | A weight of 50-74 indicates a Primary VoIP route. |
| 03:41.41 | Damin | A weight of 75-99 indicates a Seconddary VoIP route. |
| 03:41.41 | Damin | A weight of 100+ indicates a least-preferred route to a private or |
| 03:41.41 | Damin | public Dundi connected network, such as Dundi-E.164, Dundi-Test or |
| 03:41.43 | Damin | FWD-out. |
| 03:42.00 | tzanger | sounds good, I have yet to really dive into DUNDi |
| 03:42.16 | Damin | tzanger: If you understand BGP, it's totally simple.. |
| 03:42.32 | Damin | tzanger: Each box is responsible for advertising it's specific routes to the rest of the network. :) |
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| 03:43.44 | PTG123 | when does star wars come out? |
| 03:43.58 | Damin | 19th of may.. |
| 03:45.09 | PTG123 | :) |
| 03:46.10 | PTG123 | this livevoip channel stuff just amazes me |
| 03:46.27 | tzanger | livevoip channels stuff? |
| 03:46.43 | PTG123 | they charge $10 extra, for every simeltaneous call you want to do |
| 03:46.51 | tzanger | fuck 'em |
| 03:46.56 | tzanger | go with nufone or asterlink or something |
| 03:47.02 | PTG123 | thats just retarted |
| 03:47.09 | PTG123 | hah i don't need a provider :) |
| 03:47.17 | PTG123 | just doing a little market research |
| 03:47.58 | Damin | LiveVoip will die eventually, as will all the Lemonade Stand ITSPs out there.. |
| 03:48.08 | file | Asterlink will live! |
| 03:48.30 | PTG123 | asterlink isn't exactly set up to compete in the same market as livevoip |
| 03:48.39 | file | exactly |
| 03:48.41 | file | thus while we'll live |
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| 03:48.53 | tzanger | PTG123: what do you mean |
| 03:48.54 | PTG123 | oh i am sure livevoip is extremely profitable |
| 03:49.01 | file | they aren't |
| 03:49.04 | MajestiK | Yeah.. Wycleaf is/was Fugees.. |
| 03:49.10 | MajestiK | err.. nevermind that one |
| 03:49.10 | PTG123 | file, what makes you think that? |
| 03:49.17 | file | uh, I know - don't ask |
| 03:49.29 | PTG123 | well its crazy if they aren't |
| 03:49.35 | x9net | Hi, Any one know why * wont take incoming calls using Voicepulse? |
| 03:49.35 | PTG123 | knowing how cheap you can get it for, and how much tghey charge |
| 03:49.37 | file | the owner is just... interesting |
| 03:49.49 | PTG123 | they defintely don't give any support |
| 03:49.52 | PTG123 | so what could cosat them :) |
| 03:50.04 | bobessutio | what are asterlink's us48 rates? |
| 03:50.09 | file | bobessutio: 2 cents/min |
| 03:50.21 | PTG123 | the did layway is funny too, why not just create a mechanism to pull that data live to your site |
| 03:50.27 | orion88 | what is asterlink? |
| 03:50.29 | bobessutio | file: thanks |
| 03:50.35 | file | http://www.asterlink.com/ |
| 03:50.40 | file | it's where I, bkw, and anthm work... |
| 03:51.34 | PTG123 | anyone know who livevoip terminates their canada stuff with? |
| 03:51.45 | PTG123 | anyone have a livevoip canadian number? |
| 03:51.54 | file | PTG123: broadvox probably |
| 03:52.00 | orion88 | file: are you related to asterisk, or is it just a coincidence? |
| 03:52.25 | PTG123 | broadvox isn't big enough to give those rates are they? |
| 03:52.33 | Damin | orion88: File is Asterisk |
| 03:52.38 | file | orion88: well, asterlink contributes a lot to asterisk... like chanspy for example, and we use it in our stuff, and we have termination/orgination |
| 03:52.54 | Damin | orion88: Well, File is Asterisk's Bastard Step Child.. |
| 03:52.56 | file | plus we are also hosting the PBX Developers Conference ^^^ see topic ^^^ http://www.cluecon.com/ |
| 03:53.07 | x9net | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.16 | Damin | PTG123: BroadVox has more traffic than Vonage dude.. |
| 03:53.26 | Damin | PTG123: Except it's all Calling Cards! |
| 03:53.57 | orion88 | so which one of you is mark spencer? |
| 03:53.57 | Damin | PTG123: I happen to know the CEO of BroadVox Direct (Their "residential" arm). |
| 03:54.03 | PTG123 | Ililnois in august just seems crazy |
| 03:54.12 | *** join/#asterisk [Lamer] (Lamer@221.128.88.110) |
| 03:54.15 | Damin | orion88: I am. |
| 03:54.15 | jets | mark is in birmingham right now |
| 03:54.19 | jets | he's @kram |
| 03:54.22 | PTG123 | but maybe i'll go just to meet file ;) |
| 03:54.31 | file | PTG123: originally it was June, but I couldn't make it and other people couldn't |
| 03:54.38 | file | well, I could make it - if I wanted to miss my prom and graduation |
| 03:54.48 | jets | booo who likes proms or graduation |
| 03:54.49 | PTG123 | yah well june was bad for me too |
| 03:54.49 | jets | actually |
| 03:54.52 | jets | Prom's are SEXY! |
| 03:54.55 | PTG123 | but august i maybe could do |
| 03:54.56 | jets | Sexy little bitch. |
| 03:55.15 | orion88 | Damin: we've talked before... i was playing with your robot :) |
| 03:55.17 | PTG123 | $650 to get in |
| 03:55.18 | PTG123 | geesh |
| 03:55.24 | file | that includes hotel, plus lunches |
| 03:55.29 | Damin | orion88: I'm NOT mark.. ;) |
| 03:55.32 | PTG123 | yah but who wants to stay at a best western :) |
| 03:55.37 | PTG123 | or sit through conferences |
| 03:55.44 | file | the people who go |
| 03:55.45 | file | so quiet you |
| 03:55.58 | PTG123 | file: any idea on how many registrations so far? |
| 03:56.07 | orion88 | Damin: i just caught that from the running thing |
| 03:56.15 | jets | i've met file! |
| 03:56.16 | jets | :P |
| 03:56.16 | file | and bkw has been dead today |
| 03:56.17 | jets | we kissed. |
| 03:56.22 | PTG123 | yet me know, if attendence is good i'll go |
| 03:56.22 | file | jets: did we? |
| 03:56.27 | PTG123 | er let me :) |
| 03:57.03 | jets | Duh... we were gorgeous together. |
| 03:57.04 | jets | Sexy! |
| 03:57.10 | file | that was you and harley :P |
| 03:57.14 | PTG123 | Guide to C and Software PBX debugging |
| 03:57.15 | PTG123 | heh |
| 03:58.35 | PTG123 | Voice Over IP Showcase SER, CISCO and many more! - Josh Colp ; can't miss that one |
| 03:58.38 | PTG123 | everyone must attend |
| 03:58.42 | jets | we didn't kiss. haha you would have pissed my husband harley off |
| 03:58.42 | jets | :P |
| 03:59.00 | file | yes, attend, despite my thought of having no clue what exactly I'm going to present |
| 03:59.04 | PTG123 | wait their is a female in here, everyone hide |
| 03:59.09 | harryvv | in a hospital enviroroment what would be considered more dependable/reliable asterisk or ser |
| 03:59.15 | file | PTG123: jets isn't female |
| 03:59.18 | file | well |
| 03:59.21 | file | much |
| 03:59.30 | PTG123 | harryvv, ser for the proxy of devices for sure.. asterisk for vmail etc |
| 03:59.37 | PTG123 | oh |
| 03:59.46 | PTG123 | :) |
| 03:59.48 | harryvv | ptg, how much different is ser over asterisk |
| 04:00.01 | PTG123 | harryvv, ser is a sip proxy.. and doesn't a good job of that |
| 04:00.04 | PTG123 | asterisk is a pbx |
| 04:00.12 | harryvv | doesnt or does |
| 04:00.19 | PTG123 | so if you have alot of sip devices, you put ser in front.. since asterisk sip support rather sucks |
| 04:00.23 | PTG123 | er does |
| 04:00.24 | PTG123 | :) |
| 04:00.25 | PTG123 | sorry |
| 04:00.31 | PTG123 | hungry, and my brain is not functioning |
| 04:00.45 | harryvv | and why does asterisk sip support suck? |
| 04:01.22 | PTG123 | harry: super loaded question, but lets start with it doesn't proxy |
| 04:01.26 | PTG123 | which is important :) |
| 04:01.27 | harryvv | Sounds like a combo of ser+asterisk+Freeradius would wok best in a large enviroment. |
| 04:03.13 | x9net | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.26 | file | x9net: that's very vague |
| 04:03.32 | bobessutio | x9net, what is you config? |
| 04:03.34 | file | x9net: are you registered? does an error come up when you dial? |
| 04:03.34 | x9net | ok well im using isx |
| 04:03.40 | bobessutio | are you registering? |
| 04:03.52 | x9net | well the phone just rings, yes im registered |
| 04:03.55 | x9net | ing* |
| 04:04.15 | jets | x9net: you need to make sure you have a register => for them |
| 04:04.35 | x9net | how do i check that? |
| 04:04.40 | drraid | When it says a t1 line can manage 24 channels, are those voip channels? |
| 04:04.44 | harryvv | PTG123? |
| 04:04.53 | harryvv | no |
| 04:04.54 | drraid | or the equivelant of 24 POTS lines |
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| 04:04.59 | harryvv | that is strait pstn channels |
| 04:05.09 | harryvv | you can have 23 dial ins at one time. |
| 04:05.11 | harryvv | err |
| 04:05.12 | harryvv | 24 |
| 04:05.16 | drraid | Oh. |
| 04:05.24 | PTG123 | sorry |
| 04:05.27 | PTG123 | was getting food :) |
| 04:05.35 | PTG123 | yes combo is a good solution |
| 04:05.39 | PTG123 | file you guys don't use radius do you? |
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| 04:05.43 | file | normally with a PRI you have 23 voice channels and 1 data channel though |
| 04:05.43 | x9net | is their a error log i can check to see if its not registering right? |
| 04:05.50 | file | PTG123: no |
| 04:05.52 | jets | cli |
| 04:05.55 | jets | set verbose 30 |
| 04:05.57 | drraid | How many voip lines can a t1 handle? |
| 04:05.58 | file | PTG123: well, not for voip |
| 04:05.58 | jets | /var/log/messages |
| 04:06.02 | jets | /var/log/asterisk/messages |
| 04:06.10 | PTG123 | file: what do you use for your billing with ser? |
| 04:06.12 | harryvv | drraid, depends on which codec you use |
| 04:06.17 | drraid | I see. |
| 04:06.20 | file | PTG123: custommmmm |
| 04:06.23 | Pete_Largo | what is SER? |
| 04:06.29 | file | SER = SIP Express Ruter |
| 04:06.31 | file | er Router |
| 04:06.37 | Pete_Largo | thanks |
| 04:06.48 | PTG123 | file: mysql based? |
| 04:06.55 | file | PTG123: nope |
| 04:07.07 | PTG123 | what database you use? |
| 04:07.13 | file | who said we use a database? |
| 04:07.26 | harryvv | I cannot believe that polycom will not allow me to be a resale provider because I would use them with asterisk. |
| 04:07.51 | drraid | In the worst case scenario, how few voip lines can a t1 handle? |
| 04:08.03 | PTG123 | i could they don't wanna support something that could possibly cause major bugs :)and they end u supporting it |
| 04:08.18 | PTG123 | drraid, depends on your codec |
| 04:08.27 | PTG123 | you could handle 200 possibly |
| 04:08.44 | drraid | Ok. |
| 04:08.47 | PTG123 | er |
| 04:08.48 | PTG123 | 150 |
| 04:08.50 | PTG123 | i should say |
| 04:09.01 | drraid | I just wanted an idea for a range, with or without the best codec |
| 04:09.08 | PTG123 | well with a shitty codec |
| 04:09.09 | PTG123 | 15 |
| 04:09.41 | drraid | And can that all be multiplexed with a single modem and asterisk? |
| 04:10.17 | PTG123 | um |
| 04:10.18 | PTG123 | modem? |
| 04:10.23 | drraid | By modem |
| 04:10.23 | PTG123 | thought we are talking voip :) |
| 04:10.24 | drraid | i'm sorry |
| 04:10.25 | x9net | IAX is registered, it just seems like it wont pick the line up. should i try sip? with vp |
| 04:10.26 | drraid | Yeah |
| 04:10.28 | PTG123 | why would you use a modem? |
| 04:10.44 | drraid | so VOIP comes in over ethernet? |
| 04:10.55 | Pete_Largo | I agree, why would modem even come up in a T1 discussion? |
| 04:10.58 | PTG123 | none of us work for vp, so none of us wants to support it |
| 04:11.01 | PTG123 | drraid: yes |
| 04:11.11 | drraid | Right that makes sense.. voice over IP |
| 04:11.21 | drraid | i was mislead previously, and i apologize for my ignorant questions |
| 04:11.32 | x9net | PTG123: was that to me? |
| 04:11.47 | harryvv | google what is voip |
| 04:11.55 | PTG123 | x9net, yes :) |
| 04:11.58 | x9net | lol |
| 04:12.06 | x9net | well that dont help me |
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| 04:12.21 | drraid | voip-info answered most of that, but i thought it had to connect to something (like a vonage box) before it could just go into an ethernet card |
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| 04:15.29 | ManxPower | drraid: VoIP can come in over anything that supports IP. Commonly it's Ethernet. |
| 04:16.24 | drraid | Awsome. I don't knwo why i thougth otherwise. Is there any other hardware required for asterisk to use VOIP with ethernet, other than the ethernet card? |
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| 04:17.59 | newmedian | drraid: here are some diagrammus digiumus: VOIP world http://www.digium.com/images/iaxy_install_diagram.gif and PSTN->Asterisk->Phone http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=fxsvfxo |
| 04:20.08 | newmedian | Someone may want to mention (hardware) timing required for conferencing. |
| 04:21.06 | drraid | Hm |
| 04:21.33 | newmedian | Hm? |
| 04:22.15 | drraid | Essentially, if someone wanted to setup a computer with asterisk to handle incomming voip lines, and then forward those calls via voip to some unrelated outbound number, would that require more than just a computer with an ethernet card? |
| 04:22.42 | file | no. |
| 04:23.01 | drraid | Thats all it would take? |
| 04:23.07 | file | sure. |
| 04:23.16 | newmedian | unrelated outbound number also = voip, right? |
| 04:23.16 | drraid | I <3 you guys |
| 04:23.24 | file | well he said via voip |
| 04:23.31 | newmedian | yes, but I want to over-qualify |
| 04:23.34 | drraid | Ok |
| 04:24.03 | drraid | say the number its forwarding too is a cellphone, would that outbound call be converted from voip by the voip provider? |
| 04:24.47 | file | yes... |
| 04:24.55 | file | if they provide outbound dialing to regular phone numbers |
| 04:25.09 | drraid | Awsome. thats what i couldn't find in the docs |
| 04:25.35 | newmedian | drraid: if the calls come in via VOIP (e.g. Soft Phone on a PC, or a Hard Phone, or via a provider like FWD), and the calls go out over VOIP (to a Soft Phone on a PC, or a Hard Phone, or to a VOIP number on a provider like FWD, or a termination provider) then all you need is ethernet + Asterisk etc. |
| 04:25.59 | drraid | Awsome. |
| 04:26.34 | newmedian | If you want the calls to exit the VOIP cloud and hit a cell phone or a land line, then you need your destination to be a termination provider (account), and they will do the translation between VOIP and PSTN(/cellular) |
| 04:26.49 | drraid | Ok |
| 04:26.50 | orion88 | would i be correct in saying that for an answering machine, asterisk is not what i want? |
| 04:27.20 | newmedian | Asterisk makes a good answering machine, but it's like using a jet plane to go to the corner store. :) |
| 04:27.40 | orion88 | newmedian: that's what i thought |
| 04:27.41 | implicit | Asterisk is not bad for an answering machine |
| 04:27.48 | harryvv | orion, i use asterisk to split our calls between me wife and other people. Works fine for us. |
| 04:27.48 | implicit | SEMS is also not bad |
| 04:27.53 | newmedian | You can get really funky with it, have all kinds of groovy answering machine features, integrate with your home network, control appliances, get information like the weather, etc. or... a simple answering machine. |
| 04:27.55 | implicit | depends on what you are looking for |
| 04:28.01 | implicit | what features you need |
| 04:28.39 | drraid | FWD is a company who can provide that service? |
| 04:28.58 | implicit | which service? |
| 04:29.04 | orion88 | well, i don't really _need_ anything :) i'm playing and learning.... it would be cool if i could dial in remotely and check my messages, or get them e-mailed to me, stuff like that |
| 04:29.13 | newmedian | drraid: alternatively, if you're running your own local asterisk box, then you could do your own VOIP->PSTN and PSTN->VOIP by using a http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_tdm400p2 |
| 04:29.30 | harryvv | btw, I was at this company where the security officer has to call into this pbx to give his user id his password then he is given a ivr of options to press. he presses 4 and says "he is okay" then presses another extention or dtmf to give grace period since if he misses the 1 hour mark it calls him. Kinda cool. |
| 04:30.18 | newmedian | orion88 then if you want cool features like that and much more, definitely pursue Asterisk |
| 04:30.46 | implicit | orion88, it depends on what type of services you are looking for, asterisk has a lot of cool features, it's easy to develop on ... |
| 04:30.54 | file | I'm going to run out, yes at 1:30AM, to get some takeout |
| 04:30.56 | file | I'll bbl |
| 04:31.14 | drraid | I see. So i can do it locally, or if I pay the provider for the service, they can convert from voip to ptsn on my calls |
| 04:31.20 | newmedian | FWD is www.freeworlddialup.com, more of a presence and VOIP phone number kind of place. (with or without an Asterisk box) |
| 04:31.36 | implicit | it isn't the most scalable, or something you should be using for carrier-grade ITSP settings, but asterisk does what it's designed to do well (PBX settings) |
| 04:32.36 | newmedian | drraid: Advantages of working with a provider is that they may have termination services in different provinces/states/countries, so it's kind of like ultra cheap long distance when you're dialing out. And you can also (separate service) get a DID and have a phone number non-VOIP people can dial, in the cities where the provider you choose has service. |
| 04:33.02 | drraid | Thats exactly what i want |
| 04:33.21 | drraid | So i can pay a provider to deal with the conversion with voip/ptsn in/out and just manage my end with asterisk |
| 04:33.48 | newmedian | drraid: But if you're primarily looking to get calls on/off the VOIP network into your local area code, and it's for personal/SOHO calls, then you could just get a card from Digium and put it in your PC, which connects to your phone line. This enables Asterisk to use the local phone network without having to contract with a provider. |
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| 04:34.38 | newmedian | drraid: yes. There's lots of flavors to this ice cream, so lots of ways of going about doing it, and many different providers, etc. |
| 04:34.59 | drraid | I really appreciate your time and help with this |
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| 04:35.14 | drraid | And again apologize for my ignorance previously |
| 04:35.26 | drraid | thanks alot. |
| 04:35.32 | Kaos76k | Goodevening. Anyone familiar with setting up enum with Asterisk at home? |
| 04:35.42 | newmedian | drraid: one note: If you intend to host conference calls on your Asterisk, then you will need a card for hardware timing (see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+MeetMe) |
| 04:35.48 | newmedian | oof. |
| 04:35.53 | newmedian | well, close enough then. |
| 04:36.32 | Kaos76k | Anyone familiar with setting up enum with Asterisk at home? |
| 04:38.27 | Kaos76k | No *@Home people here? |
| 04:39.32 | denon | try #asterisk@home |
| 04:40.06 | Pete_Largo | what is @home? |
| 04:40.42 | denon | pointy clicky version of asterisk |
| 04:40.49 | Pete_Largo | ahh, thanks |
| 04:40.50 | newmedian | Kaos76k: Asterisk@Home help forum is at: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=420324 |
| 04:40.57 | denon | well, not version of asterisk .. so much as a distribution and installer |
| 04:41.23 | newmedian | Pete_Largo: *@Home: http://asteriskathome.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:41.52 | Pete_Largo | thanks newmedian! |
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| 04:42.58 | newmedian | Pete_Largo: It's a good way for someone totally new to Asterisk to have a live working system, look at the configuration files, then erase everything and install Asterisk and tailor everything by hand. ;) |
| 04:43.56 | RickTick | hello All: Anyone using any Open-Source software for prepaid billing? |
| 04:44.00 | newmedian | Or "pointy clicky" works too. |
| 04:44.09 | Pete_Largo | if only I had a spare machine... |
| 04:45.43 | newmedian | Pete_Largo: http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws_features.html |
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| 04:46.20 | newmedian | Although that won't work for a production system, but if you want to tool around with SIP/IAX2 locally it should be fast enough. |
| 04:46.23 | shodan | anyone tried that 200$usd wifi voip phone ? http://www.wifon.com/wifon1000.php |
| 04:46.56 | Pete_Largo | you have a point. |
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| 04:47.47 | Umaro | Hey guys, having some problems making calls through the manager interface and having them work.. I keep getting "dropping incompatiable voice frame from IAX2/NuFone/1 of format slin because our native format changed to ulaw" |
| 04:48.13 | Umaro | iax.conf has disallow=all / allow=ulaw |
| 04:48.37 | Umaro | with iax2 debug, it says format is 4, capability is 63492.. that doesn't seem right |
| 04:49.14 | Umaro | any ideas? |
| 04:49.50 | bobessutio | what formats does nuphone accept? |
| 04:50.09 | Umaro | ulaw, ilbc, g729, couple others.. not slin, though |
| 04:50.14 | denon | iax2 or sip, g.729, speex, ulaw. ilbc, gsm .. |
| 04:50.22 | bobessutio | tri using ilbc |
| 04:50.35 | Umaro | tried.. same result, just says ilbc instead of ulaw |
| 04:50.41 | bobessutio | hkmm |
| 04:51.16 | Umaro | normal calls work fine, it's just when I start them via the manager interface with an originate command.. |
| 04:51.30 | bobessutio | have you tried using a callfile? |
| 04:51.55 | bobessutio | i would be interested to see if it produced the same result. |
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| 04:57.12 | [Lamer] | I am wondering if anyone here's using Asterisk Realtime Config? |
| 04:59.42 | Pete_Largo | night all |
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| 05:13.02 | Umaro | bobessutio: when I do it from a call file, it says the same thing, but only once as opposed to 5 or 6, and the call works fine |
| 05:13.26 | Umaro | bobessutio: by "says the same thing" I mean the dropping incompatiable voice frame, etc. |
| 05:19.59 | file | backkkkkkkkkkk |
| 05:22.49 | blitzrage | MikeJ[Laptop]: I'm around now... |
| 05:24.23 | newmedian | I've noticed that the weekend tends to be introspection time on #asterisk, whereas during the week there's a lot more debugging going on. |
| 05:24.46 | newmedian | If you look at the relative frequency of pastebins, for example. |
| 05:24.58 | *** part/#asterisk djgregor (~djgregor@d149-67-147-152.col.wideopenwest.com) |
| 05:25.01 | shido6 | what does the peanut butter mean when seen with the jelly on wheat bread on top of an asterisk box |
| 05:25.10 | shido6 | I wonder |
| 05:25.34 | newmedian | exactly |
| 05:26.38 | newmedian | one only has to examine the symbolism of the jelly being spread laviciously on the wheat bread, with * exposed |
| 05:27.03 | shido6 | but is there a digium ds3 card in the asterisk system? |
| 05:27.40 | newmedian | and have the new IAXy hit the streets yet? When? |
| 05:28.24 | newmedian | They remind me a bit of hockey pucks. Very Canadian. |
| 05:30.15 | shido6 | sleepy time. |
| 05:31.55 | newmedian | dream of the wheat |
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| 05:32.20 | Cherebrum | everyone call my conference bridge 317-225-4161 or 313-228-0715 |
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| 05:39.39 | Johnsie | Yeah. |
| 05:39.49 | Johnsie | And even if we did, wouldn't we dial via IAX2 anyway? :) |
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| 05:42.24 | Johnsie | :) |
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| 05:45.15 | x9net | is their a irc chan for *@home? |
| 05:46.22 | newmedian | x9net: don't know. But there is a forum: Asterisk@Home help forum is at: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=420324 |
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| 05:47.32 | x9net | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.49 | x9net | just dont know why incoming calls dont work |
| 05:49.12 | newmedian | incoming from where to where? |
| 05:49.36 | x9net | from connect.vp to *, * just wont pick the call up |
| 05:51.49 | newmedian | not using vp; best time to ask question is probably either in the afternoon or the evening, in Eastern Standard Time. But most here don't run Asterisk@Home, but might be able to help generally. |
| 05:52.49 | x9net | hmm, im wondering if its a problem on VP side. i just called with my cell and got a "beep beep beep all circuts are busy", would that be from vp you think or *? |
| 05:53.57 | bobessutio | x9net, do you have voicemail with vp? |
| 05:54.06 | x9net | no |
| 05:54.14 | bobessutio | hmm, ok |
| 05:54.26 | x9net | im using connect |
| 05:55.43 | bobessutio | connect? |
| 05:55.58 | x9net | http://connect.voicepulse.com |
| 05:56.48 | bobessutio | have you tried configuring a softphone with vp? |
| 05:57.12 | bobessutio | softphones are usually easier than full-blown asterisk |
| 05:58.10 | x9net | yea, well i had it on my budgetone for for a few days |
| 05:58.57 | bobessutio | you running windows or linux (on desktop)? |
| 05:59.06 | x9net | my desktop is win xp |
| 05:59.15 | x9net | i got a eyebeam sp |
| 05:59.21 | bobessutio | sip or IAX with asterisk? |
| 05:59.22 | x9net | just not using it right now |
| 05:59.39 | x9net | you mean phone to *? |
| 05:59.55 | x9net | thats sip |
| 06:00.19 | bobessutio | no * -> vp |
| 06:00.24 | x9net | iax |
| 06:00.33 | *** join/#asterisk afrosheen (~afro@c-67-166-172-141.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 06:02.37 | bobessutio | http://iaxclient.sourceforge.net/iaxcomm/ |
| 06:02.45 | bobessutio | download iaxcomm |
| 06:02.52 | bobessutio | configure it for vp |
| 06:03.09 | bobessutio | if it works * needs fixin |
| 06:03.13 | x9net | install it on my desktop right |
| 06:03.22 | bobessutio | yup |
| 06:03.25 | bobessutio | win32 |
| 06:03.57 | bobessutio | if it still doesn't work, then you have bad setting or a problem with vp |
| 06:04.17 | bobessutio | either way, its not something anyone here can help you with. |
| 06:04.43 | x9net | can you call 3106227054 and see what happens for you? if you get a error or not |
| 06:04.56 | bobessutio | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.04 | bobessutio | gotta fire up the softphone ;) |
| 06:05.09 | x9net | hehe |
| 06:05.20 | PTG123 | doesnt voicepulse have tech support? :) |
| 06:05.44 | afrosheen | softphone? *shiver* |
| 06:06.03 | x9net | yea ill prob call them and see what they have to say, maybe they have a idea |
| 06:06.43 | bobessutio | ringing? |
| 06:07.11 | x9net | nope, but is it just ringing on your end? |
| 06:07.39 | bobessutio | no, i think i am using the wrong account ;) gimme a sec |
| 06:09.20 | bobessutio | ringing |
| 06:09.35 | x9net | yea nothing here lol |
| 06:09.48 | x9net | ill give vp a call and see if they have any ideas |
| 06:09.52 | bobessutio | did you kill asterisk? |
| 06:10.01 | x9net | what you mean? |
| 06:10.13 | bobessutio | is asterisk still running? |
| 06:10.18 | x9net | yea |
| 06:11.37 | x9net | Asterisk |
| 06:11.37 | x9net | running |
| 06:11.37 | bobessutio | kill * |
| 06:11.37 | bobessutio | you are using iaxcomm right? |
| 06:11.37 | x9net | i will now |
| 06:11.38 | bobessutio | lemme know when you are ready |
| 06:12.17 | x9net | grr for the host do i use the outoging to incoming for iaxcomm? |
| 06:12.50 | bobessutio | clarify. |
| 06:12.55 | x9net | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.55 | x9net | For IAX2 incoming calls, use gwiax-in-01.voicepulse.com. |
| 06:13.07 | x9net | onm teh iaxcomm their is a host feild |
| 06:13.30 | bobessutio | eww, interesting |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#asterisk tainted- (~identd@65-60-70-243-cust.telepacific.net) |
| 06:13.45 | x9net | lol |
| 06:13.48 | tainted- | what kind of hardware would i want to buy to interface with a PRI |
| 06:13.49 | bobessutio | don't think iaxcomm can handle that |
| 06:13.55 | tainted- | which wildcard? |
| 06:14.19 | bobessutio | tainted: lookup digium.com |
| 06:14.25 | x9net | ill just giive them a call and see what they say, thanks for your help. |
| 06:14.52 | bobessutio | x9net, i have never used a config with different incoming/outgoing servers |
| 06:14.58 | bobessutio | you are welcom |
| 06:15.15 | x9net | really? is that for iax? |
| 06:15.23 | x9net | sip has the same |
| 06:15.34 | x9net | maybe i should try setting up a sip trunk |
| 06:17.24 | x9net | i dont know im going to bed, im probaly so tired that im mising a setting |
| 06:17.37 | afrosheen | that's a good time to quit :) |
| 06:18.00 | x9net | yea lol |
| 06:18.23 | x9net | its happened before, always one setting you look at like 50 times |
| 06:18.33 | x9net | ok well im out. |
| 06:18.47 | afrosheen | later |
| 06:20.24 | bobessutio | is there any way do do a busy lamp field with asterisk? |
| 06:20.42 | afrosheen | busy lamp field? |
| 06:21.19 | bobessutio | lights on a phone.. |
| 06:21.30 | bobessutio | to tell what lines/extensions are in use |
| 06:21.49 | afrosheen | probably requires some scripting on the server side |
| 06:22.03 | bobessutio | what phone would you use? |
| 06:22.05 | afrosheen | and on the phone itself, I know someone did this with xml on a polycom phone before |
| 06:22.15 | bobessutio | cool |
| 06:22.26 | afrosheen | but it didn't play with the lights, it just showed in the minibrowser on the display |
| 06:22.57 | w0rd989 | anyone know of a good service for upcoming voip carriers? (small size) |
| 06:23.04 | afrosheen | we're getting a secretary soon and will probably get her a snom 220 so I hope this is possible |
| 06:23.09 | w0rd989 | I've looked at voipjet |
| 06:23.17 | w0rd989 | but am interested in some other options |
| 06:23.22 | w0rd989 | to compare services, prices, etc. |
| 06:23.24 | afrosheen | upcoming? |
| 06:23.36 | w0rd989 | afrosheen: I am starting a local voip co. in my area |
| 06:23.40 | w0rd989 | but I am still doing the research |
| 06:24.13 | afrosheen | what will your company provide |
| 06:24.16 | afrosheen | installs or what |
| 06:24.18 | Johnsie | afrosheen: AsterNIC. :) |
| 06:24.40 | afrosheen | asternic? |
| 06:24.44 | Johnsie | www.asternic.org |
| 06:24.50 | afrosheen | I know the address |
| 06:24.51 | afrosheen | ;) |
| 06:24.56 | w0rd989 | afrosheen: porting existing analog lines over to digital...provide asterisk pc's to perform connection to head-end VOIP and then connect to main VOIP provider via my "middle-man" voip |
| 06:25.41 | afrosheen | w0rd989, so you'll be doing in-house conversions and managing their voip traffic basically |
| 06:26.01 | w0rd989 | afrosheen: yes sir |
| 06:26.08 | w0rd989 | some basic voicemail, and multi-line ringing stuff |
| 06:26.11 | w0rd989 | but nothing too crazy |
| 06:26.20 | w0rd989 | some simple "911" dialout for the existing "dead" phone line |
| 06:26.53 | w0rd989 | I purchased a sipura spa 2000 to test with and develop my main setup with |
| 06:26.55 | afrosheen | Johnsie, I don't know if our secretary will be that swift, although we've had AMP and FOP on our server for months and love it |
| 06:27.39 | Johnsie | I find using the FOP is the easiest way to see what's going on... |
| 06:27.45 | Johnsie | And if you change phones, the interface doesn't. |
| 06:27.56 | Johnsie | I had an airhead secretary and she loved it. |
| 06:28.10 | Johnsie | "Wow, I can transfer calls? Neat!" |
| 06:28.15 | bobessutio | hehe |
| 06:28.23 | afrosheen | we might be able to get her to use it, I don't know...but it is kinda moron proof. |
| 06:28.36 | Johnsie | If I had more office space, phones, and idiots, I could have run a phone sex line. |
| 06:28.43 | w0rd989 | lol |
| 06:28.52 | afrosheen | when you're staring at a button with a person's name and extension on it and it's red with a timer running, it's easy to see that they're on the phone. |
| 06:29.01 | bobessutio | don't get any ideas... |
| 06:29.02 | w0rd989 | getting the young wh0....I mean women to do it wouldn't be that expensive |
| 06:29.04 | afrosheen | and that's what FOP provides |
| 06:29.08 | Johnsie | Exactly. |
| 06:29.13 | Johnsie | 0.21 is out now, I think. |
| 06:29.19 | Johnsie | And it's getting better and better. |
| 06:29.24 | afrosheen | yeah I'm on the fop mailing list actually :) |
| 06:29.27 | w0rd989 | bobessutio: lol |
| 06:29.29 | afrosheen | I just never talk |
| 06:29.32 | Johnsie | I don't keep up. |
| 06:29.43 | afrosheen | I read it daily if it looks interesting, just like the AMP list |
| 06:29.56 | w0rd989 | afrosheen: so...what ya think? any other good providers similar to voipjet? |
| 06:30.04 | Johnsie | Oh, say, are any of you folks BroadVoice customers? |
| 06:30.24 | afrosheen | w0rd989, you'd be best off going local for something like that |
| 06:30.43 | afrosheen | w0rd989, the lower their ping is to you and your ping to the upstream provider, the better |
| 06:31.05 | w0rd989 | afrosheen: problem being...I live in bo-dung northern, IN |
| 06:31.05 | bobessutio | oh oho |
| 06:31.08 | w0rd989 | and basically all said and done |
| 06:31.14 | w0rd989 | if I start going thru "local" guys |
| 06:31.27 | w0rd989 | all my profit / expected profit = goes down the drain |
| 06:31.30 | afrosheen | yeah BV blows from what I hear |
| 06:31.41 | w0rd989 | what you use afrosheen? |
| 06:31.52 | bobessutio | haven't really got a chance to play with my account |
| 06:31.58 | afrosheen | w0rd989, your profit should come from initial design & install, maintenance contracts and service expansion |
| 06:32.10 | Johnsie | Yeah, I'm ready to beat their faces in. :D |
| 06:32.18 | afrosheen | w0rd989, we use a little company called txlink.net here |
| 06:32.30 | bobessutio | Johnsie, what went wrong? |
| 06:32.32 | w0rd989 | afrosheen: I don't think I can compete with "nationwide" voip providers if I go and use local people |
| 06:32.33 | Johnsie | Anyone can run a SIP proxy. |
| 06:32.34 | Johnsie | haha |
| 06:32.40 | afrosheen | their stuff fucks up once in awhile but they're fast to fix it |
| 06:32.47 | Johnsie | Their incoming and outgoing service has been usable about 20% of the time for the past ten days. |
| 06:33.13 | Johnsie | I have better luck using two Progresso soup cans and baler twine. |
| 06:33.18 | bobessutio | lol |
| 06:33.22 | Johnsie | "Watson? Can you hear me?" |
| 06:33.27 | bobessutio | where are you located? |
| 06:33.31 | Johnsie | Pennsylvania |
| 06:33.40 | Johnsie | I'm in ALLTEL territory. |
| 06:33.41 | bobessutio | ok, im in SF CA |
| 06:34.10 | afrosheen | Johnsie, LOL nice first phone call reference |
| 06:34.16 | w0rd989 | jesus |
| 06:34.20 | bobessutio | had a coulple calls break up on me |
| 06:34.38 | afrosheen | bobessutio, naw it was just some jerk blowing into his cell phone and hitting 'end' |
| 06:34.39 | Johnsie | I had Vonage, they were fine, but they don't work so nicely with Asterisk. |
| 06:34.54 | bobessutio | but I was running it though 2 wireless connection a laptop and an ATA ;) |
| 06:35.04 | bobessutio | hehe |
| 06:35.33 | afrosheen | Johnsie, why not, just plug it into an fxs port and treat it as a pstn line through asterisk ;) |
| 06:35.42 | bobessutio | afrosheen, lol, i wonder of anyone actually does that... |
| 06:36.06 | afrosheen | bobessutio, if you didn't have a provider you might try it |
| 06:36.21 | Johnsie | Naw, I'm too damn lazy. |
| 06:36.24 | Johnsie | I run all VoIP. |
| 06:36.40 | Johnsie | I have no PSTN lines coming in anymore. |
| 06:36.52 | Johnsie | In fact, my Asterisk box is hosted with ThePlanet in Dallas, Texas. |
| 06:36.55 | afrosheen | I think pstn is a necessary evil |
| 06:37.09 | bobessutio | yeah, i have to agree |
| 06:37.15 | afrosheen | yeah I've been to The Planet many times |
| 06:37.31 | Johnsie | BroadVoice is my PSTN interface, if you will. |
| 06:37.35 | Johnsie | All SIP'd. |
| 06:37.41 | Johnsie | Good... |
| 06:37.43 | Johnsie | Do me a favor... |
| 06:37.50 | Johnsie | Go down there and punch a few engineers in the eye. |
| 06:38.03 | Johnsie | :D |
| 06:38.12 | bobessutio | and what brought about this lust for violence? |
| 06:38.17 | afrosheen | they have hot secretaries, like smokin hot |
| 06:38.20 | Johnsie | It's just my general nature. |
| 06:38.26 | bobessutio | hehe |
| 06:38.31 | Johnsie | afrosheen: That must be why they don't pay attention when I call in. |
| 06:38.31 | afrosheen | it's really weird |
| 06:38.43 | afrosheen | I never see hot secretaries anywhere |
| 06:39.00 | afrosheen | only old or fat ladies talking to their friends about what their cats did yesterday |
| 06:39.12 | Johnsie | hahaha |
| 06:39.37 | afrosheen | you have to enter 2 locking doors before you even enter the lobby, it's funny |
| 06:39.37 | Johnsie | Oh, now that I'm chatting... haha |
| 06:39.59 | Johnsie | I'm having one Hell of a time remapping key sequences in features.conf ... has anyone else had this problem? |
| 06:39.59 | afrosheen | they have a little phone in the first entryway where you hassle them to let you in |
| 06:40.24 | Johnsie | Oh really. |
| 06:40.30 | afrosheen | you'd think it was NASA |
| 06:40.31 | Johnsie | I'll give you my full name and customer number. |
| 06:40.35 | Johnsie | You can tell them you're me. |
| 06:40.36 | afrosheen | haha |
| 06:40.40 | Johnsie | Then go in and punch 'em. |
| 06:40.46 | Johnsie | Just for being dumb. |
| 06:40.48 | afrosheen | I'm here to punch an engineer in the eye for customer 699242 |
| 06:40.57 | afrosheen | ok come right in sir |
| 06:41.02 | Johnsie | Exactly. |
| 06:41.04 | Johnsie | LOL |
| 06:41.24 | afrosheen | I could bribe the secretaries with some roses or whatever crap hot chicks like for bribes |
| 06:41.29 | Johnsie | If you saw some of the trouble tickets I've exchanged with them... sheesh. |
| 06:41.38 | Johnsie | I didn't know they were all hot. |
| 06:41.44 | *** join/#asterisk hypa7ia (~leigh@67.71.84.29) |
| 06:41.50 | Johnsie | This one sales lady was flirting with me at 1 AM about three weeks ago. |
| 06:41.52 | afrosheen | I'll take the digicam with me next time |
| 06:42.03 | Johnsie | I was like, "Lady, I don't have time. I'm pissed. You people screwed up my server." |
| 06:42.07 | afrosheen | the secretaries are the hotties, there are some trolls that work in the back |
| 06:42.23 | afrosheen | they keep them in a humidity controlled dungeon |
| 06:42.24 | [Lamer] | Hi all, how do I insert the result from /bin/date '+%d/%m/%C%y-%H:%M:%S' to the database? |
| 06:42.33 | Johnsie | So, you mean Satan's minions work at the front and you work your way back to Satan? |
| 06:42.49 | afrosheen | yeah, where else would you put the succubi |
| 06:42.57 | Johnsie | hahahaha |
| 06:43.17 | afrosheen | some of the dudes there are actually pretty cool though |
| 06:43.33 | [Lamer] | something like exten => 888,2,MYSQL(Query resultid ${connid} insert\ into\ `usage`\ values('`System(/bin/date '+%d/%m/%C%y-%H:%M:%S')`','${CALLERIDNUM}') |
| 06:44.31 | [Lamer] | is there any relevant docs at all? |
| 06:49.05 | *** join/#asterisk dev2005 (~dev2003@222.33.36.205) |
| 06:50.27 | Stereo | [Lamer]: use CURDATE() in mysql |
| 06:50.43 | Stereo | or CURRENT_TIMESTAMP() |
| 06:51.10 | Stereo | this is mysql, right? |
| 06:51.12 | Stereo | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/date-and-time-functions.html |
| 07:06.20 | *** join/#asterisk TheEmperor (TheEmperor@218.111.51.8) |
| 07:09.26 | [Lamer] | Stereo: Thanks |
| 07:10.03 | [Lamer] | Stereo: what about others? I mean apart from date and time |
| 07:10.44 | Stereo | don't know about the rest |
| 07:10.51 | [Lamer] | Stereo: Do you know if I can store value in a variable in extensions.conf? |
| 07:11.00 | Stereo | no idea :) |
| 07:11.10 | [Lamer] | Stereo: Ok |
| 07:11.17 | Stereo | try it? |
| 07:11.43 | [Lamer] | Stereo: yeah, I will give it a try |
| 07:13.26 | [Lamer] | Stereo: are you using realtime stuffs? |
| 07:13.47 | *** join/#asterisk [cc]smart (~smart@gw.ptr-62-65-149-158.customer.ch.netstream.com) |
| 07:14.34 | Stereo | I just joined the channel because I thought it'd be a cool thing to try next week when I have some time |
| 07:14.46 | Stereo | <-- most newbie person around here |
| 07:15.18 | hypa7ia | hehe, define "some time" :-) |
| 07:15.23 | [Lamer] | Stereo: man, I just installed and got it running yesterday |
| 07:15.39 | hypa7ia | Stereo: check out http://www.onlamp.com/lpt/a/3956 , best tutorial i've found |
| 07:15.41 | Stereo | wow, I wish I had your experience |
| 07:15.54 | Stereo | oh, thanks :D |
| 07:16.29 | [Lamer] | Stereo: just keep asking in this channel but it seems noone is around |
| 07:16.50 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: ohh, i'll check it out now |
| 07:16.52 | hypa7ia | it's kinda sleep-time in NA |
| 07:17.06 | hypa7ia | for the sane ones anyway :-) |
| 07:17.56 | Stereo | hypa7ia: that's a very cool tutorial. Many thanks. |
| 07:18.07 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: I think I have come across that tutorial already |
| 07:18.33 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: I got the Zap thing and dial-plan working okay now |
| 07:18.46 | hypa7ia | it's short and to the point. good for those with short attention spans... oh look a birdy! |
| 07:18.56 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: now I put all the stuff into mysql db |
| 07:19.15 | hypa7ia | realtime? |
| 07:19.25 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: yeah, u got it |
| 07:19.27 | hypa7ia | i'm getting that going next week |
| 07:19.33 | hypa7ia | but postgres, not mysql |
| 07:19.44 | hypa7ia | a little partial to postgres |
| 07:19.46 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: but the I am having problems with the realtime thing |
| 07:20.34 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: I could do everything like inserting, updating data to mtsql from extensions.conf |
| 07:20.40 | hypa7ia | let me read scrollback... not sure that with my current level of expertise i'll be able to help, but i'll check |
| 07:20.49 | *** part/#asterisk afrosheen (~afro@c-67-166-172-141.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 07:21.30 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: but extconfig.conf just did not load my real-time thing correctly with the same permission |
| 07:22.16 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: don't worry about it I can re-type again |
| 07:22.30 | hypa7ia | ahh, cool |
| 07:23.49 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: actually I follow http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20RealTime |
| 07:24.00 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: from this point |
| 07:24.38 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: and put sip.conf => mysql,asterisk |
| 07:25.01 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: and put sip.conf => mysql,asterisk,ast_config sorry |
| 07:26.18 | [Lamer] | in the ast_config I imported everything from sip.conf using a perl script |
| 07:27.24 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: and modified res_mysql.conf to point to correct database |
| 07:28.07 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: ans renamed the sip.conf to something else |
| 07:28.28 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: start asterisk in debug mode asterisk -dvvvvvvgc |
| 07:29.11 | hypa7ia | and it's not letting you use a date was the issue? |
| 07:30.08 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: asterisk will only run if I put "queues.conf => mysql,asterisk,ast_config" not the sip.conf |
| 07:30.54 | hypa7ia | hmm. i really don't know enough about real-time to help you out there |
| 07:31.04 | hypa7ia | i may well by the end of the week though :-) |
| 07:31.15 | [Lamer] | the issue is that the sip.conf which I put in the table "ast_config" should load when asterisk starts |
| 07:31.50 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: that's okay, at least I have someone to talk to |
| 07:32.36 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: I've been shouting for more than 24 hrs haha |
| 07:32.42 | hypa7ia | doh :-/ |
| 07:32.59 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: but anyway I got the basics running which is good enough |
| 07:32.59 | hypa7ia | something to do in the meanwhile is email one of the mailing lists |
| 07:33.35 | hypa7ia | well, i'll be around lots next week |
| 07:33.44 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: are you a member of the mailing list? |
| 07:33.46 | hypa7ia | getting some systems up and running to do some testing |
| 07:33.51 | hypa7ia | not yet, will be soon |
| 07:33.58 | hypa7ia | getting organized :-) |
| 07:34.11 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: what type of business are you running? |
| 07:34.14 | hypa7ia | first my room, then my email, then... the world! |
| 07:34.24 | hypa7ia | [Lamer]: i work for a telco |
| 07:34.32 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: i see |
| 07:34.58 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: and interested in * personally? |
| 07:35.24 | hypa7ia | personally an professionally. sick of selling cisco, what can i say :-) |
| 07:35.37 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: cuz I understand that teco also have "paid" IP solutions every where |
| 07:36.36 | hypa7ia | [Lamer]: yeah, the big ones i know of are Cisco, Nortel, Avaya, and Mitel |
| 07:36.40 | hypa7ia | there are others too |
| 07:36.48 | hypa7ia | some run on linux, some on windows |
| 07:36.54 | hypa7ia | some suck more or less than others |
| 07:36.59 | hypa7ia | all have shortcomings. |
| 07:37.38 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: i see, I don't think I'll have a chance to touch those expensive solutions |
| 07:38.07 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: I once went for an Avaya IP seminar |
| 07:38.11 | hypa7ia | nice |
| 07:38.19 | hypa7ia | haven't dealt with them much at all |
| 07:39.21 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: don't think I can afford buying their solutions so I search through the net and found * last week |
| 07:39.32 | hypa7ia | nice :-) |
| 07:39.57 | hypa7ia | hopefully tomorrow i'll get my house asterisk server running |
| 07:40.13 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: Ok, good on ya |
| 07:40.18 | hypa7ia | roommate is getting cranky about the computer in the living room "doing nothing" |
| 07:40.24 | hypa7ia | so i shall make it do something :-) |
| 07:40.44 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: that's better than leaving it for no use |
| 07:41.42 | hypa7ia | yup |
| 07:44.42 | [Lamer] | Stereo: still here? |
| 07:44.52 | Stereo | yeah |
| 07:45.00 | Stereo | reading the howto :) |
| 07:46.06 | [Lamer] | Stereo: I found http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+-+documentation+of+application+commands, I think this is all they have |
| 07:46.49 | [Lamer] | Stereo: from what I asked you earlier |
| 07:48.04 | Stereo | that's cool, I didn't know you could put perl |
| 07:49.48 | [Lamer] | Stereo: hmm, sometimes I use shell,C and php but i am not really good at any of them |
| 07:51.22 | hypa7ia | python! |
| 07:51.50 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: yeah, I wanna try that |
| 07:52.21 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: yeah, I've heard its a very cool language with combination of perl+C |
| 07:52.43 | hypa7ia | byteofpython.info if you don't think you know how to code, diveintopython.org if you do :-) |
| 07:52.46 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: well, at least it fills up the gaps |
| 07:53.18 | [Lamer] | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:53.40 | hypa7ia | yes... it's a nice compromise on many fronts, speed, maintainability, power |
| 07:53.42 | nextime | hypa7ia : if you like py, you have to try pyastre :) |
| 07:54.19 | hypa7ia | oooo |
| 07:54.21 | hypa7ia | linky? |
| 07:54.28 | Sato1 | www.google.com |
| 07:54.30 | Sato1 | hehehe |
| 07:54.38 | nextime | look at voip-info.org |
| 07:54.42 | *** join/#asterisk D1ng0 (D1ng0@210.5.109.12) |
| 07:55.12 | nextime | anyway, is an embedded python interpreter in dialplan |
| 07:55.23 | *** part/#asterisk Johnsie (~john@acs-24-154-32-12.zoominternet.net) |
| 07:55.31 | hypa7ia | ooh, that's too neat |
| 07:55.46 | D1ng0 | hey how do i debug why x-ten clients will not register in asterisk ? |
| 07:55.47 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: I have a couple of E-Books about Python here |
| 07:56.23 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: tell me if you are interested |
| 07:57.03 | *** join/#asterisk Johnsie (~john@acs-24-154-32-12.zoominternet.net) |
| 07:57.51 | hypa7ia | i actually have o'reilly Learning Python in Dead Tree format |
| 07:57.59 | hypa7ia | still working my way through it :-) |
| 07:58.18 | [Lamer] | hypa7ia: O'Reilly -- Python In A Nutshell? |
| 07:58.58 | hypa7ia | heh, not at a stage where i'm needing a nutshell book yet, and i'll probably buy it in dead tree when i do :-) |
| 08:02.07 | W1thdraw | how do i install the demo extension file? |
| 08:03.14 | W1thdraw | err sample of extension.conf? |
| 08:03.15 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: the sample file? |
| 08:03.22 | W1thdraw | yeah |
| 08:03.38 | [Lamer] | is it in the /etc/asterisk dir? |
| 08:04.02 | *** join/#asterisk brad[] (~brad@brad.developer.gentoo) |
| 08:04.03 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: with the name extensions.conf? |
| 08:04.18 | W1thdraw | yeah |
| 08:04.30 | W1thdraw | when i try to do the demo dy dialing ext 100 |
| 08:04.33 | W1thdraw | i get... |
| 08:04.47 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: and you have your * up and runng? |
| 08:05.06 | W1thdraw | May 15 10:04:56 NOTICE[2341]: pbx.c:1330 pbx_extension_helper: Cannot find extension context 'extensions' |
| 08:05.09 | W1thdraw | wait |
| 08:05.16 | W1thdraw | how do i dial an ext? |
| 08:05.50 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: are you using SIP phones? |
| 08:06.01 | W1thdraw | yeah i have a spa841 |
| 08:06.28 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: it depends on how you config your sip.conf |
| 08:06.46 | W1thdraw | im msg you |
| 08:08.03 | W1thdraw | *ill |
| 08:08.10 | newl | That message clearly tells you that the 'extensions' context is not to be found by Asterisk in extensions.conf. |
| 08:08.10 | [Lamer] | you can paste it at http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 08:08.26 | W1thdraw | sure |
| 08:08.31 | [Lamer] | newl is right |
| 08:08.43 | W1thdraw | http://pastebin.ca/11785 |
| 08:09.09 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: let's see your extensions.conf also |
| 08:09.38 | W1thdraw | i havent changed anyhting in that |
| 08:09.52 | W1thdraw | its as it came when i installed asterisk |
| 08:09.58 | brad[] | Anyone here have documentation on Nortel PBX's? Specifically with trunking. |
| 08:10.22 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: you will need to add a context "extensions" to that |
| 08:10.40 | hypa7ia | brad[]: any particular one in mind? |
| 08:10.58 | brad[] | hypa7ia: A Nortel CICS; looking to connect it to Asterisk with analog lines |
| 08:11.16 | brad[] | hypa7ia: Unfortunately I'm not the slightest bit familiar with Nortel PBX's |
| 08:11.44 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: follow this config then http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html?page=3#config |
| 08:12.33 | W1thdraw | [Lamer], o sweet |
| 08:12.38 | W1thdraw | thanks |
| 08:12.45 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: it's got some descriptive examples there, tell me if you have any problem with it |
| 08:13.53 | W1thdraw | o yeah 1 more question how do i restart asterisk? |
| 08:14.15 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: don't restart it, just reload it |
| 08:14.25 | W1thdraw | ok |
| 08:14.43 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: type reload at the CLI> prompt |
| 08:15.04 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: or asterisk -rx reload from shell |
| 08:15.10 | W1thdraw | do i have to press the pound key before i dial the ext? |
| 08:15.54 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: from those examples, you press 2001 from your 2000 extension |
| 08:17.39 | hypa7ia | brad[]: don't know those, alas |
| 08:17.46 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: the example gives you a configuration for two SIP phones, 2000 and 2001 respectively |
| 08:18.19 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: are your phones behind NAT? |
| 08:18.33 | W1thdraw | no they are on the same lan |
| 08:19.08 | [Lamer] | I saw nat=yes in your previous config, so you don't need it |
| 08:20.00 | [Lamer] | W1thdraw: follow the example I give you and it will eventually work for you, like it did for me yesterday |
| 08:20.10 | W1thdraw | ok |
| 08:20.13 | W1thdraw | ill try |
| 08:20.14 | W1thdraw | that |
| 08:20.16 | W1thdraw | thanks |
| 08:21.37 | PTG123 | always leave nat=yes |
| 08:21.38 | D1ng0 | ok guys how can i put asterisk in debug moce so i can see why sip clients arent registering |
| 08:21.49 | PTG123 | regardless if you are behind or not |
| 08:21.55 | PTG123 | as long as you have canreinvite=no |
| 08:22.06 | PTG123 | that keeps calls going th rough asterisk server |
| 08:22.10 | W1thdraw | yeah i have that |
| 08:22.13 | PTG123 | and always uses real ip, not the ip it thinks it is |
| 08:22.14 | [Lamer] | D1ng0: start * with -dvvvvvvgc ? |
| 08:22.20 | PTG123 | whats the problem W1thdraw ? |
| 08:22.39 | W1thdraw | im trying to dial into that sample ext |
| 08:22.49 | PTG123 | what happens when you try |
| 08:23.05 | [Lamer] | PTG123: ohh, you are the man |
| 08:23.31 | PTG123 | Lamer: why is that? |
| 08:23.36 | W1thdraw | PTG123 im not sure how to dial an ext |
| 08:23.41 | W1thdraw | or if am even able to |
| 08:23.50 | *** part/#asterisk hypa7ia (~leigh@67.71.84.29) |
| 08:23.57 | PTG123 | did you set up your extensions.conf properly? |
| 08:24.04 | [Lamer] | PTG123: i have some questions which you may help |
| 08:24.16 | D1ng0 | [Lamer], yeah okay it is but im trying to figure out how to show all the sip traffic debug info in the asterisk temrinal |
| 08:24.21 | PTG123 | well make em fast :) i am heading to bed soon |
| 08:24.22 | W1thdraw | i was lookin gat this |
| 08:24.22 | W1thdraw | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+quickstart |
| 08:24.42 | [Lamer] | PTG123: he's just starting today, he won't know if it's proper or not |
| 08:24.46 | W1thdraw | " test that phone by calling extension 1000 (assuming you have the sample extensions.conf). You should get the demo greeting and be able to do such things as ECHO test" |
| 08:25.15 | [Lamer] | PTG123: I asked him to follow the example given on the onlamp website as he has two SIP clients |
| 08:26.01 | D1ng0 | grrrr why doesnt "sip debug" work anymore |
| 08:26.31 | rabelais | I'm looking to transfer my broadvoice number over to a different provider because broadvoice's downtime is simply unacceptable, I'm just plain fed up...but I'm concerned about this number transfer issue, is the number truly now with my new service provider (say for ex, telasip), or is it still with broadvoice, just being forwarded over to telasip, and thus might still be subject to the same horrible outages that plagued m |
| 08:26.31 | rabelais | y broadvoice service...by doing a number transfer, am I truly free of broadvoice, or am I still somehow still tied to their systems? |
| 08:26.53 | PTG123 | you know i know nothing about it, but ever though about using that asterisk @home |
| 08:26.59 | [Lamer] | PTG123: Ok, first question is how can I do exten => 888,2,MYSQL(Query resultid ${connid} insert\ into\ `usage`\ values('`System(/bin/date '+%d/%m/%C%y\ %H:%M:%S')`','${CALLERIDNUM}') |
| 08:27.00 | PTG123 | doesn't it do alot of this stuff for you? |
| 08:27.29 | PTG123 | lamer: is that agi? |
| 08:27.56 | [Lamer] | PTG123: you mean I better use AGI for this? |
| 08:28.03 | PTG123 | no i mean |
| 08:28.06 | PTG123 | what are you trying to do |
| 08:28.28 | D1ng0 | HELP !!! :) |
| 08:28.35 | D1ng0 | heheheh |
| 08:28.43 | PTG123 | it looks like a lame way to do realtime |
| 08:28.57 | [Lamer] | PTG123: I just want to try to pass some variables or results from executing shell stuff to mysql |
| 08:29.26 | D1ng0 | hey.. ok how can i debug sip in the asterisk console ? |
| 08:29.42 | D1ng0 | sip debug ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx doesnt show me anything |
| 08:29.59 | Mavvie | maybe you don't have debug turned on. |
| 08:30.01 | Mavvie | debugging |
| 08:30.05 | Mavvie | on the terminal |
| 08:30.13 | D1ng0 | or can someone nmap this box for udp and tell me if sip is even listening ? |
| 08:30.13 | [Lamer] | PTG123: like TIMENOW=`System(/bin/date '+%d/%m/%C%y\ %H:%M:%S')`, and pass this TIMENOW to mysql |
| 08:30.23 | D1ng0 | Mavvie, sip debug no longer is valid in cvs |
| 08:30.48 | Qwell | uhh |
| 08:30.53 | Qwell | use the MySQL builtin time shit |
| 08:31.00 | PTG123 | Lamer: thats just scary : )will cause un-nec load on your box etc |
| 08:31.51 | [Lamer] | PTG123; what's better way? |
| 08:32.08 | Qwell | Go ahead and ignore me. I'm used to it. |
| 08:32.20 | D1ng0 | Qwell, heheh me too |
| 08:32.27 | PTG123 | haha |
| 08:32.30 | [Lamer] | PTG123: I want to process some enviromental variables before putiing them into mysql |
| 08:32.41 | *** join/#asterisk OzJames79 (~opera@CPE20320889-1842-1.gex.ncable.net.au) |
| 08:32.41 | PTG123 | lamer: i have no idea what you are trying to do, it looks like log the calls |
| 08:32.49 | D1ng0 | i just want to get asterisk into console debug mode to see the sip data when a client tries to connect but cant |
| 08:32.50 | PTG123 | which the cdr will do for you |
| 08:33.30 | Qwell | You can't do sip debug? |
| 08:34.22 | [Lamer] | PTG123: just wanna make something like while in multilayer IVR system I will be logging what the user press and put it in the DB |
| 08:34.40 | D1ng0 | Qwell, not in current cvs |
| 08:34.42 | *** join/#asterisk moua (david@men75-2-82-66-50-159.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:34.45 | Qwell | Why not? |
| 08:34.57 | [Lamer] | PTG123: so i can create something interactive with the users |
| 08:35.15 | D1ng0 | sip debug |
| 08:35.15 | D1ng0 | No such command 'sip debug' (type 'help' for help) |
| 08:35.22 | D1ng0 | im using CVS |
| 08:35.25 | Qwell | What'd you break? |
| 08:35.31 | D1ng0 | as of 05/15/2005 |
| 08:35.42 | PTG123 | hmm |
| 08:35.51 | PTG123 | well i don't know alot about the AGI |
| 08:35.58 | PTG123 | but i would think that would be more suited for this |
| 08:36.01 | [Lamer] | PTG123: say ask users a question then they responde by pressing a key pad then I will pass this parameter to the external program |
| 08:36.04 | PTG123 | if it was me i would hack the C code :) |
| 08:36.06 | PTG123 | but thats me |
| 08:36.31 | *** join/#asterisk Thus0 (~Thus0@dyn-83-157-130-153.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 08:36.50 | [Lamer] | PTG123: what variable keeps what a caller press? |
| 08:37.22 | [Lamer] | PTG123: I might just pass that to an external prog then wait for the exit code |
| 08:37.40 | *** part/#asterisk Thus0 (~Thus0@dyn-83-157-130-153.ppp.tiscali.fr) |
| 08:37.44 | tainted- | but that's you |
| 08:37.56 | tainted- | if it was me i'd hack the asm |
| 08:37.57 | PTG123 | hah |
| 08:38.10 | PTG123 | anything i do better support 100 people at once using it :) |
| 08:38.14 | Qwell | a real man would hex edit the binary |
| 08:38.16 | PTG123 | really 10k would be beter |
| 08:38.23 | tainted- | or just send electrical signals corresponding to 0 and 1 |
| 08:38.30 | tainted- | Qwell PCTOOLS! |
| 08:38.31 | PTG123 | a real man would write it from scratch in bit code |
| 08:38.43 | tainted- | bit code puts hair on your chest |
| 08:38.49 | Qwell | front panel toggle switches and shit |
| 08:38.51 | PTG123 | i use to love assembly |
| 08:38.56 | tainted- | it might take it from your head... but that's okay |
| 08:39.00 | PTG123 | till i realized my code actually ran slower then if i wrote it in c :) |
| 08:39.09 | PTG123 | b/c i wasn't smarty enough to do all the optimizations the c compiler did |
| 08:39.24 | [Lamer] | Qwell: where do i find the list of variables used while processing a call? |
| 08:39.30 | Qwell | google |
| 08:39.35 | PTG123 | lamer do you know c? |
| 08:39.36 | Qwell | README.variables |
| 08:39.36 | D1ng0 | is there a toold to do a udp based traceroute to see if its being blocked somewhere ??? |
| 08:39.40 | Qwell | ~docs |
| 08:39.41 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 08:39.47 | tainted- | google could be the answer to a lot questions |
| 08:39.51 | [Lamer] | PTG123: yeah, I write C sometimes |
| 08:40.04 | PTG123 | just look at the sourcecode |
| 08:40.10 | PTG123 | it has all the answers to all your questions :) |
| 08:40.10 | [Lamer] | PTG123: Ok |
| 08:40.21 | PTG123 | its simplier then you think |
| 08:40.38 | [Lamer] | PTG123: I agree |
| 08:41.04 | tainted- | umm |
| 08:41.17 | tainted- | this lady is sleeping in our office while we're running antivirus on her laptop |
| 08:41.19 | [Lamer] | PTG123: but can you tell me which part to look at for this case? |
| 08:41.31 | PTG123 | tainted-, well what else do you expect her to do? |
| 08:41.36 | PTG123 | you know all good pornos start this way :) |
| 08:42.06 | PTG123 | Lamer: i don't do alot of IVR work, so not sure :) now if you wanted to know about sip, or realtime, or other stuff like that i'm your man :) |
| 08:42.16 | tainted- | we're lacking one major aspect of a good porno |
| 08:42.21 | Qwell | PTG123: speaking of sip |
| 08:42.22 | tainted- | a good looking woman |
| 08:42.23 | Qwell | tainted-: hottie? |
| 08:42.27 | [Lamer] | PTG123: thanks |
| 08:42.31 | PTG123 | the boom chicka wow wow music? |
| 08:42.39 | Qwell | yeah, the music is essential |
| 08:42.41 | Qwell | even moreso then the hot chick |
| 08:42.45 | tainted- | no i got plenty of chicka wow wow |
| 08:42.47 | PTG123 | well either a hottie or a case of beer :) |
| 08:42.59 | PTG123 | beer + any women = hottie |
| 08:42.59 | newl | tainted-: stand up, scream, "HOLY SHIT!! IT HAS A VIRUS! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!". :) |
| 08:43.04 | tainted- | i'd need hard liquor for this one |
| 08:43.14 | Qwell | PTG123: How's your chan_sip coming? heh |
| 08:43.18 | PTG123 | Some crown royal goes down good |
| 08:43.18 | tainted- | jack straight up |
| 08:43.35 | PTG123 | atleast make it gentlemen jack |
| 08:43.36 | tainted- | newl i'm tempted to say that her laptop is haunted |
| 08:43.46 | newl | 8) |
| 08:43.52 | tainted- | she just wandered into our office at 1am |
| 08:43.54 | tainted- | total stranger |
| 08:44.05 | Qwell | tainted-: "Hey Bill, what does 'C:\ not found' mean?" |
| 08:44.07 | tainted- | 'do u guys fix computers here?' lol |
| 08:44.24 | tainted- | echo y | format c: |
| 08:44.29 | newl | tainted-: Ask for her ID and if she can't produce, escort from building. hehe |
| 08:44.35 | Qwell | Why not just format /y c: |
| 08:44.41 | newl | /q |
| 08:44.51 | Qwell | either way |
| 08:44.52 | [Lamer] | PTG123: ok, may I ask a question about realtime then? |
| 08:45.10 | [Lamer] | PTG123: before you go to bed |
| 08:45.19 | tainted- | lamer he never sleeps |
| 08:45.20 | PTG123 | sure |
| 08:45.23 | PTG123 | hah |
| 08:45.38 | tainted- | he is directly interfaced with his chan_sip |
| 08:45.43 | tainted- | which DOES WORK btw |
| 08:45.44 | PTG123 | at 1:45am do your rates triple? |
| 08:45.48 | tainted- | DOESN'T |
| 08:45.54 | [Lamer] | PTG123: I put my sip.conf into mysql table namely "ast_config" |
| 08:46.00 | tainted- | not that i'm aware of |
| 08:46.01 | tainted- | lol |
| 08:46.23 | newl | It used to be interesting many moons ago to walk into a department store with computers on display running Win3.x, hit a DOS prompt, fdisk the drive, exit the DOS session and leave it running. :) |
| 08:46.27 | [Lamer] | PTG123: then I modified extconfig.conf |
| 08:46.36 | *** join/#asterisk Zeeek (~icechat5@Zeeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 08:46.49 | [Lamer] | PTG123: putting "sip.conf => mysql,asterisk,ast_config" |
| 08:47.16 | Qwell | realtime isn't in 1.0.x stable, is it? |
| 08:47.22 | [Lamer] | PTG123: i restarted asterisk again but this doesn't work |
| 08:47.29 | PTG123 | no its not in stable |
| 08:47.34 | *** part/#asterisk OzJames79 (~opera@CPE20320889-1842-1.gex.ncable.net.au) |
| 08:47.41 | PTG123 | do you have a switch statement in sip.conf |
| 08:47.42 | [Lamer] | PTG123: what I want to do is to put everything into DB |
| 08:48.05 | [Lamer] | PTG123: Ohh, I put it in the extensions.conf |
| 08:48.33 | [Lamer] | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.41 | Qwell | I wonder if I can convince my boss to send me to cluecon... |
| 08:48.48 | Qwell | its at a bad time I think |
| 08:48.53 | PTG123 | you need it in whatever confs you want in the db |
| 08:48.55 | PTG123 | btw realtime sucks :) |
| 08:49.01 | PTG123 | i have written my own replacement for it |
| 08:49.14 | PTG123 | but i did use it for a while |
| 08:49.31 | PTG123 | i guess it all depends if you have 20 phones |
| 08:49.34 | PTG123 | realtime should be ok |
| 08:50.23 | [Lamer] | PTG123: like I said, I am making a multi-layer IVR system so there will be like 1000 extensions |
| 08:50.43 | [Lamer] | PTG123: i'll surely need it then |
| 08:51.28 | PTG123 | i would really hack up the code of the ivr |
| 08:51.45 | [Lamer] | PTG123: with the switch statement, do I put it alone in sip.conf? or I need something else |
| 08:51.57 | PTG123 | yah |
| 08:52.00 | PTG123 | thats all you really need |
| 08:52.04 | PTG123 | is the switch statement |
| 08:53.36 | PTG123 | ok anything else anyone before i go to bed? :) |
| 08:53.51 | PTG123 | my mouse is already on its charger :) |
| 08:54.09 | tainted- | yea |
| 08:54.15 | Qwell | how long does that last after a full charge? |
| 08:54.25 | PTG123 | um i think like weeks |
| 08:54.26 | PTG123 | i am not sure. |
| 08:54.29 | Qwell | hmm |
| 08:54.34 | PTG123 | i just sit it on there when not using it |
| 08:54.36 | PTG123 | its bluetooth |
| 08:54.37 | Qwell | all day at least? |
| 08:54.38 | tainted- | how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop |
| 08:54.45 | PTG123 | oh yah seriouslyw eeks |
| 08:54.49 | Qwell | tainted-: 36,563 |
| 08:54.54 | tainted- | WRONG |
| 08:54.56 | PTG123 | i have the same mouse for my notebook, and i just use normal aa batteries |
| 08:55.02 | Qwell | not from my testing |
| 08:55.04 | PTG123 | and hacven't changed them since i bought it |
| 08:55.18 | newl | 3 |
| 08:55.20 | PTG123 | whats not from your testing? |
| 08:55.26 | Qwell | 36,563 licks |
| 08:55.27 | tainted- | newl lol |
| 08:55.34 | newl | :) |
| 08:55.35 | Zeeek | 42 |
| 08:55.54 | tainted- | i still remember that bastard owl |
| 08:56.02 | newl | me too |
| 08:56.16 | PTG123 | man i saw hitchhikers guide to the galaxy today |
| 08:56.21 | PTG123 | what a disappointment |
| 08:56.23 | tainted- | was that good? |
| 08:56.26 | tainted- | figured |
| 08:56.34 | Qwell | it was "okay" |
| 08:56.35 | PTG123 | it doesn't follow the book at all |
| 08:56.36 | Zeeek | can't expect a story like that to be a film |
| 08:56.41 | PTG123 | and leaves out the best parts from the book |
| 08:56.49 | PTG123 | the stuff that makes the book funny, it doesn't even go into |
| 08:56.50 | tainted- | h2g2 wasn't meant for movie form |
| 08:56.53 | Qwell | its like the TV series |
| 08:56.57 | PTG123 | oh it could have been very well done actually |
| 08:57.04 | PTG123 | the way they did it would have been perfect |
| 08:57.09 | PTG123 | if they would have been better about editing |
| 08:57.13 | tainted- | the mainstream wouldn't follow |
| 08:57.16 | tainted- | if they didn't read the book |
| 08:57.21 | tainted- | if it was a direct translation |
| 08:57.23 | PTG123 | i think they would |
| 08:57.26 | PTG123 | nah |
| 08:57.33 | PTG123 | b/c they had a narrator |
| 08:57.39 | PTG123 | it coudl have been done |
| 08:57.41 | PTG123 | thats the thing |
| 08:57.44 | PTG123 | they didn't explain alot of things |
| 08:57.57 | PTG123 | or say alot of things the narrator does in the book |
| 08:58.07 | tainted- | go to bed! |
| 08:58.08 | PTG123 | it probably would have been like 30 minutes longer though |
| 08:58.10 | Zeeek | it would have to be at least 10 hours long to that |
| 08:58.15 | tainted- | i'm trying my best to kick this lady out |
| 08:58.16 | PTG123 | that was probably why they did it |
| 08:58.18 | tainted- | sigh |
| 08:58.25 | Zeeek | the book has a lot of narration |
| 08:58.31 | Zeeek | and that's the funniest part |
| 08:58.33 | PTG123 | makes me want to produce my own movie |
| 08:58.36 | tainted- | exactly |
| 08:58.42 | tainted- | PTG123 do a flash movie |
| 08:58.46 | tainted- | underground |
| 08:58.48 | tainted- | lol |
| 08:58.50 | Zeeek | the "bad news drive" |
| 08:59.11 | Zeeek | no one wanted to travel at the speed of bad news after it was discovered... |
| 08:59.20 | PTG123 | why not do a real movie :) |
| 08:59.25 | Zeeek | that when you got there, no one wanted to see you |
| 09:00.25 | tainted- | can i pour water on her head |
| 09:00.40 | tainted- | i think technically after 2am that is the courteous thing to do |
| 09:01.08 | Zeeek | a gentlement would use cognac |
| 09:01.20 | Zeeek | Remy Martin will do |
| 09:01.27 | tainted- | Zeeek that's 100$/bottle |
| 09:01.34 | Zeeek | Courvoissier in a pinch |
| 09:01.48 | Zeeek | pour some in a thimble |
| 09:01.51 | tainted- | i just had a vision of u dressed in a lady's man outfit |
| 09:02.05 | tainted- | with purple ruffles and a pimp cane |
| 09:02.14 | [Lamer] | PTG123: I just modified res_config_mysql.c, would I need to rebuild * a gain or only addons? |
| 09:02.34 | tainted- | Zeeek - Zeeek Bond |
| 09:02.39 | Zeeek | shaken, not stirred |
| 09:02.48 | tainted- | Here to assist you with your extension needs |
| 09:03.02 | [Lamer] | PTG123: ok, only addons |
| 09:03.12 | Zeeek | great post in the list about naming your servers |
| 09:03.26 | PTG123 | only addons |
| 09:03.38 | Zeeek | the guy named his Michelle and his wife said why'd you name it after that bitch? |
| 09:03.51 | Zeeek | and he told it it was because it always went down |
| 09:04.54 | PTG123 | would be smarter if you said b/c she never went down :) |
| 09:05.01 | PTG123 | and he named it after his wife |
| 09:05.02 | PTG123 | heh |
| 09:05.20 | Zeeek | that may not be tha case though |
| 09:05.44 | Zeeek | my teeth |
| 09:05.56 | [Lamer] | PTG123: man, I had this error but don't know why it happens. I got this error res_config_mysql.c:597 mysql_reconnect: MySQL RealT |
| 09:05.57 | [Lamer] | ime: Failed to connect database server |
| 09:05.58 | Zeeek | AM only though |
| 09:06.16 | Zeeek | is the server running? |
| 09:06.20 | [Lamer] | but all parameters passed to mysqldb are correct |
| 09:06.29 | PTG123 | well its a bitch to get working :) |
| 09:06.32 | PTG123 | so good lucky with that one |
| 09:06.35 | PTG123 | really off to bed, goodnight guys |
| 09:06.48 | [Lamer] | PTG123: Ok, good night |
| 09:06.50 | Zeeek | can you log in to the mysql server with the username/pass on command line? |
| 09:07.03 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: mysql server is running |
| 09:07.07 | Zeeek | can you log in to the mysql server with the username/pass on command line? |
| 09:07.31 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: yes, I can even execute it in extensions.conf |
| 09:07.58 | *** join/#asterisk my007ms (~arkuser@217.139.240.35) |
| 09:08.11 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: using exten => 888,1,MYSQL(Connect connid localhost user passwd dbname) |
| 09:08.12 | Zeeek | then it sounds like you're in for a fun night |
| 09:09.02 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: when the * is running it may set efective uid to something else |
| 09:09.36 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: but it shouldn't matter while * is passing all required parms |
| 09:09.38 | Zeeek | that shouldn't matter |
| 09:09.42 | Zeeek | right |
| 09:11.19 | nextime | Zeeek : maybe a fun morning if [Lamer] is in a different timezone :) |
| 09:11.28 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users@lists.digium.com/msg90474.html |
| 09:11.44 | nextime | ( like here, 11:11am ) |
| 09:11.55 | [Lamer] | Matthew Boehm |
| 09:12.14 | [Lamer] | Matthew Boehm just didn't say anything about it |
| 09:12.52 | [Lamer] | nextime: somewhere in east asia or europe? |
| 09:12.59 | nextime | [Lamer] : italy |
| 09:13.13 | Zeeek | what an asshole to post an answer like that |
| 09:13.30 | Zeeek | (mathew i mean) it's morning here, too! |
| 09:14.06 | [Lamer] | Zeek: my res_mysql.conf is setup correctly |
| 09:14.06 | Qwell | well, he does have a point |
| 09:14.06 | Zeeek | I hate when the mailing list posts snide useless shit |
| 09:14.06 | Qwell | "Check debug for more info." |
| 09:14.07 | Qwell | Did you check the debug? |
| 09:14.09 | [Lamer] | Qwell: yes I know |
| 09:14.41 | [Lamer] | Qwell: yes, if you mean from the CLI> |
| 09:14.49 | Qwell | and? |
| 09:14.51 | [Lamer] | Qwell: anywhere else can I check? |
| 09:15.04 | Zeeek | maybe change logging? |
| 09:15.32 | [Lamer] | Qwell: that's the error I got, and I modified the c code to show my dbuser,dbname,... they are all right |
| 09:15.50 | Qwell | well, what did the debug say? |
| 09:16.31 | [Lamer] | and /var/log/asterisk/messages |
| 09:17.29 | Zeeek | Qwell just for the record, I think it's best to answer the question if one knows the answer or not say anything. There was no real need for any info,, the unstated questionn was "wtf does this error mean?" and we all know error mssages are not very explicit sometimes |
| 09:17.52 | Zeeek | OTH, "No such context" is pretty clear |
| 09:18.07 | Qwell | So is "check debug info"... |
| 09:18.15 | Qwell | he isn't answering my question though, so...thats fine |
| 09:18.17 | Zeeek | only if there really is some |
| 09:18.42 | Zeeek | Lamer you may need to change logging.conf to put more detail in log |
| 09:19.10 | [Lamer] | Zeek: Ok |
| 09:19.15 | Zeeek | just an idea |
| 09:19.53 | [Lamer] | QWell; it's at http://pastebin.ca/11787 |
| 09:20.02 | Qwell | [Lamer]: nah, I'm done |
| 09:20.29 | [Lamer] | QWell: sorry, my connection is very slow |
| 09:21.14 | Zeeek | Qwell I think he wants to know where the debug info is? |
| 09:21.14 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: do I have to create the file? |
| 09:21.20 | Zeeek | no |
| 09:21.27 | Zeeek | restart |
| 09:21.30 | Qwell | Zeeek: its in every manual... :( |
| 09:21.36 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: u got me! |
| 09:21.42 | Zeeek | show me an example, I don'trecall seeing it? |
| 09:21.50 | Zeeek | I'm serious! |
| 09:22.04 | Zeeek | unless you mean the logging config |
| 09:22.17 | Zeeek | that is in asteriskdocs.org I think |
| 09:22.46 | Zeeek | funny, there should be a debug conditional somewhere in realtime, no? |
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| 09:22.55 | [Lamer] | QWell, Zeeek: that's fine I don't mean to ask you guys I am reading the docs now |
| 09:23.19 | Zeeek | I'm not a fan of adding sql layers to asterisk so I don't know anything about that |
| 09:24.02 | Zeeek | I think a ast-specific app that looked up stuff in an indexed file might be good |
| 09:24.17 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: hahaha |
| 09:24.20 | Zeeek | after all, the data has a certain struct |
| 09:25.07 | Zeeek | nothing likke re-writing mysql as an asterisk module :) |
| 09:26.02 | Zeeek | well, my laptop can't go in the shower with me, so... good luck! |
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| 09:29.18 | Blackvel | what are the costs for UK 0870 number for people calling me from UK? Is that a true cheap landline call then? |
| 09:29.40 | Blackvel | its calluk which forwards to FWD |
| 09:32.12 | RaYmAn-Bx | Blackvel: it's damn expensive |
| 09:32.20 | RaYmAn-Bx | it depends on the provider though |
| 09:32.27 | RaYmAn-Bx | but it has nothing to do with national cost |
| 09:32.38 | RaYmAn-Bx | same with 0845..nothing to do with local cost |
| 09:33.10 | Blackvel | oh |
| 09:33.21 | RaYmAn-Bx | you're better off either buying a proper DID or getting someone in the UK to sign you up for a sipgate.co.uk geographic number |
| 09:33.57 | Blackvel | that fwd service is then really bullshit as it seems to me |
| 09:34.13 | RaYmAn-Bx | BT actually refers to 0870 and 0845 numbers as premium rate on some parts of their site |
| 09:34.14 | Blackvel | wanted to have the ability that ppl can call me with local pstn costs |
| 09:34.20 | Blackvel | BT? |
| 09:34.37 | RaYmAn-Bx | the national telecom (British Telecom) |
| 09:34.43 | Blackvel | ah |
| 09:35.04 | Blackvel | there is no other way besides sipgate to register an UK number? |
| 09:36.02 | RaYmAn-Bx | not for free as far as I know...gossiptel provides non-free geographical DID's though |
| 09:36.29 | RaYmAn-Bx | I've had quite good experiences with sipgate tbh... |
| 09:37.53 | Blackvel | not that easy I thought it is :) |
| 09:37.57 | Blackvel | as I |
| 09:39.03 | RaYmAn-Bx | all you need is to be able to connect from a UK ip..I mean..I signed up through an SSH tunnel to a UK shell I have |
| 09:40.10 | Blackvel | so you don't live in UK really? :) |
| 09:40.40 | Blackvel | sipgate is quite stable (at least germany). but quite expensive (2,6ct/min for UK call) |
| 09:40.52 | Blackvel | and BV seems to be quite unstable :) |
| 09:40.53 | RaYmAn-Bx | no, I don't..but my girlfriend has family there..so they can call us at same price as if we lived in UK |
| 09:40.59 | RaYmAn-Bx | oh, I don't use sipgate for outgoing |
| 09:41.09 | Blackvel | yeah that is great |
| 09:41.29 | Blackvel | what address have you given? uk address? does sipgate verify? :) |
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| 09:42.10 | RaYmAn-Bx | UK yeah..but I seem to remember that they don't actually care where you are once you have it registrered |
| 09:42.42 | RaYmAn-Bx | I mean, for all they care you could just register it at the address of whoever you know there (i.e. the people who'd call you :P) and just use it |
| 09:44.12 | Blackvel | ahhh...nikotel lets me register a US number |
| 09:44.17 | Blackvel | either san diego or LA |
| 09:44.19 | Blackvel | what would you prefer? |
| 09:44.48 | Blackvel | seems to be useless since people from other cities in US also have to pay too much for calling sandiego or LA number |
| 09:46.53 | Blackvel | how does it work in the US? |
| 09:47.20 | Blackvel | what are typcial prices for calling a party from one city to another city |
| 09:47.39 | Blackvel | in germany it is called long distance call |
| 09:48.08 | Blackvel | there is nothing higher than a long distance call for whole germany besides an international call. |
| 09:49.52 | Blackvel | RaYmAn-Bx: what sipgate UK have you got? what prefix is it? seems they also only provide UK local 0845 and uk national 0870 |
| 09:50.23 | RaYmAn-Bx | they only show geographical did's when you connect from a UK ip address |
| 09:50.44 | Blackvel | ah got it |
| 09:51.03 | Blackvel | and how does that local vs. long distance calling work for US then? |
| 09:51.18 | RaYmAn-Bx | No idea :) I don't live in US |
| 09:51.34 | RaYmAn-Bx | but some US people I know get a lot of free long distance minutes include in their phone rental and stuff |
| 09:52.13 | Blackvel | so you signed up a local number in that UK city |
| 09:52.22 | Blackvel | so they don't have to call long distance? |
| 09:52.23 | Blackvel | :) |
| 09:52.32 | RaYmAn-Bx | yep |
| 09:52.43 | RaYmAn-Bx | it costs the same as it did when we lived there |
| 09:54.11 | Blackvel | For how many cities (UK) can you signup for a did with sipgate? |
| 09:54.38 | RaYmAn-Bx | pretty much all I think..but obviously only one per account |
| 09:54.46 | RaYmAn-Bx | I have an Oxford one |
| 09:55.26 | Blackvel | do you have the url of telco uk? |
| 09:55.41 | RaYmAn-Bx | www.bt.com? |
| 09:56.03 | RaYmAn-Bx | but there are other providers of course..so the prices aren't set in stone |
| 09:56.27 | [Lamer] | QWell: are you there? |
| 09:57.07 | RaYmAn-Bx | Blackvel: one of the biggest problems with 0870 and 0845 numbers is that often people get minutes with their subscription..but calls to those numbers are never included |
| 09:58.02 | D1ng0 | okayu well ive gotten a bit further now :) |
| 09:58.22 | Blackvel | I was not really aware of that |
| 09:58.25 | D1ng0 | funny how asterisk sends me straight to voice mail when im registred and i call my own extension |
| 10:01.56 | Blackvel | ok |
| 10:02.08 | Blackvel | who lives in LosAngeles here? want to test my new nikotel did :) |
| 10:06.17 | Fullmoon | Good Morning, Guys |
| 10:15.09 | Fullmoon | I have installed asterisk @Â home - it says "May 15 06:14:35 NOTICE[3186]: CAPI not installed!" |
| 10:15.15 | Fullmoon | Should it not do that? |
| 10:15.59 | Blackvel | do you want to use capi? |
| 10:16.20 | Blackvel | have you plans to connect asterisk to telco pstn over isdn? |
| 10:17.11 | Fullmoon | I want to use my AVM card with asterisk |
| 10:18.44 | Blackvel | dunno, have not installed ast@home |
| 10:18.59 | Blackvel | is capi running (check lsmod)? is chan_capi loaded as module? |
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| 10:20.00 | Fullmoon | lsmod lists capi, but asterisk crashes when it tries to load the module |
| 10:20.36 | Fullmoon | with above error message.. |
| 10:20.44 | Blackvel | then something is missing |
| 10:20.55 | Blackvel | chan_capi can not find the capi |
| 10:21.04 | Blackvel | what does lsmod say? |
| 10:21.35 | Fullmoon | http://rafb.net/paste/results/doFFVz22.html |
| 10:22.16 | Blackvel | hm |
| 10:22.19 | Blackvel | good question |
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| 10:34.42 | D1ng0 | broadvoice still having issues ? |
| 10:36.19 | Blackvel | dunno. is it working for you? |
| 10:37.32 | D1ng0 | well its odd asterisk is reg'd but when you call the number it gives the stupid user is not available call and doesnt pass it up to asterisk... so im not sure if my asterisk is misconfigured |
| 10:37.49 | Blackvel | and outbound? |
| 10:38.02 | D1ng0 | dead air on outbound calls |
| 10:38.21 | Blackvel | is there any error msg in asterisk even? |
| 10:38.31 | Blackvel | or does asterisk get nothing back? |
| 10:38.34 | D1ng0 | nope just kinda sits there |
| 10:38.46 | Blackvel | that is bad |
| 10:38.53 | Blackvel | you even don't get notified |
| 10:39.08 | Blackvel | how long do you have BV now? |
| 10:39.22 | D1ng0 | heh nope but BV has been so screwed up lately makes it hard to debug if ive got asterisk 100% configured |
| 10:39.27 | D1ng0 | 8 months |
| 10:39.43 | D1ng0 | but this is a new asterisk server, the good one is one a boat to ASIA |
| 10:40.22 | D1ng0 | well the one i know was working fine is on a boat to ASIA :) |
| 10:40.29 | Blackvel | haha |
| 10:40.35 | Blackvel | what are you doing with it in asia? |
| 10:41.17 | Blackvel | as BV has been more stable before? |
| 10:41.40 | Blackvel | I mean I would get crazy if I had to pay at least 20$ and never BV would be working as it seems the last weeks? |
| 10:45.39 | D1ng0 | well i never had trouble with them till this damn upgrade |
| 10:46.10 | D1ng0 | i moved from florida to the philippines buty BV still lets me call the states and people still their frweinds family and such to call me :) |
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| 10:49.06 | Blackvel | that is a big move |
| 10:49.29 | Blackvel | I understand. BV seems to be quite useful for this |
| 10:49.37 | Blackvel | why did you do that? :) |
| 10:50.08 | D1ng0 | what move to Philippines ? |
| 10:50.37 | D1ng0 | hehehe my wife is Philipino/Chinese and Im Australian so ASIA just made more sense :) |
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| 11:06.29 | D1ng0 | hehe okay my asterisk is misconfigured somehow |
| 11:07.14 | Blackvel | D1ng0: some ppl have problems with right configured asterisk servers and still BV gives no go :) |
| 11:07.51 | D1ng0 | Blackvel, well my x-ten soft phone logs in fine and i call call thru broadvoice my broadvoice to it |
| 11:08.10 | Blackvel | ah |
| 11:08.12 | Blackvel | and that works |
| 11:08.20 | D1ng0 | but i get a stupid operator saying user is unavalable when my asterisk is logged in :) |
| 11:08.38 | Blackvel | so many ppl had that problem last 1-2 weeks |
| 11:08.42 | D1ng0 | Blackvel, yes straight x-ten works fine for me |
| 11:09.48 | Blackvel | what do you use? bluetooth headset? all my sound cards (tried two) are bullshit or create an echo. I know someone from UK who has bluetooth but that creates also voice problem for the calling side |
| 11:09.58 | Blackvel | i only trust hardware therefore |
| 11:11.05 | D1ng0 | Blackvel, i head set with microphone works fine for me |
| 11:11.59 | D1ng0 | so lets see my asterisk register line is correct cause sip show registry says im registered |
| 11:14.46 | Blackvel | what soundcard do you use then? |
| 11:14.56 | Blackvel | err are you using |
| 11:17.04 | Blackvel | hm |
| 11:17.11 | Blackvel | is there any good irc chat room for US/LA? |
| 11:18.21 | D1ng0 | Blackvel, uhhh laptop Toshiba 17" Satellite |
| 11:18.33 | D1ng0 | not sure what soundcard is in it |
| 11:18.38 | RoyK | hmm |
| 11:18.52 | RoyK | how can i compile astmm? |
| 11:20.14 | JerJer | uncomment the entry in the Makefile |
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| 11:20.39 | RoyK | still doesn't work after clean install/valgrind |
| 11:22.54 | RoyK | should astmm be compiled as a seperate module? |
| 11:24.49 | Blackvel | D1ng0: works quite good? |
| 11:25.06 | D1ng0 | yupp clear as my polycom |
| 11:25.13 | JerJer | RoyK: no, it is just a define - i believe |
| 11:25.16 | Blackvel | wow |
| 11:25.20 | Blackvel | what headest? |
| 11:25.22 | Blackvel | headset |
| 11:25.34 | D1ng0 | its a creative labs headset was like 25.00 |
| 11:25.37 | JerJer | are you doing make valgrind as well ? |
| 11:30.46 | RoyK | yes |
| 11:31.06 | RoyK | but no 'show memory' command works |
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| 11:34.25 | darwin35 | morning |
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| 11:42.23 | Zeeek | how's the weather in darwin? |
| 11:49.32 | RoyK | morning, Zeeek |
| 11:49.50 | RoyK | wanna help me out getting astmm up? |
| 11:50.35 | Zeeek | never hoid of it |
| 11:50.56 | Zeeek | but thanks for not larting me. The marks are still visible from the last time |
| 11:51.38 | Zeeek | anyway, I find it in bad taste for one man to ask another for help in getting it up |
| 11:51.38 | RoyK | I was at a party last night and drank far too much |
| 11:51.41 | RoyK | fell over and broke my arm :( |
| 11:51.46 | Zeeek | no shit? |
| 11:52.05 | RoyK | just a small fracture |
| 11:52.11 | RoyK | but it hurts like shit |
| 11:52.22 | Zeeek | didn't anyone evertell you that when you fell something hard on your shoulder and turn to see what it is, and it's the floor, you've had enough? |
| 11:52.40 | RoyK | too late |
| 11:52.55 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: Hey you're back |
| 11:53.19 | Zeeek | what the heck is astmm? |
| 11:53.29 | RoyK | memory debugger |
| 11:53.35 | Zeeek | ya Lamer, maybe RoyK can help you btw |
| 11:53.37 | RoyK | see the makefile |
| 11:53.48 | Zeeek | ah okk, the old memory leak issue |
| 11:54.06 | RoyK | still trying to find it |
| 11:54.13 | Zeeek | is your system actually running OUT of memory eventually? |
| 11:54.18 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: I got mysql issue fixed already |
| 11:54.22 | RoyK | yes |
| 11:54.22 | Zeeek | cool! |
| 11:54.35 | RoyK | 2GB |
| 11:54.38 | Zeeek | cool Lamer, RoyK bummer |
| 11:55.00 | Zeeek | but RoyK does it eal ALL the RAM? |
| 11:55.01 | RoyK | the worst was asterisk just hung |
| 11:55.07 | RoyK | didn't crash |
| 11:55.07 | Zeeek | yes, that's bad |
| 11:55.17 | Zeeek | when did this start? When you got the farfon? |
| 11:55.32 | RoyK | heh. no... |
| 11:55.54 | RoyK | it's prolly been like this all the time |
| 11:56.10 | Zeeek | with 2GB it takes a while though? |
| 11:56.14 | RoyK | might be mysqlfriends |
| 11:56.18 | RoyK | 3 days |
| 11:56.22 | Zeeek | I was gonna say... |
| 11:56.22 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: FYI, the dbsock points to the wrong mysql.sock file |
| 11:56.38 | Zeeek | Lamer write that down somewhere like the wiki, will you? |
| 11:56.50 | Zeeek | There are hundreds of these jewels waiting to be discovered |
| 11:57.09 | Zeeek | until ten they're thorns |
| 11:57.15 | Zeeek | until then... |
| 11:57.39 | Zeeek | Lamer did you find that in the debug info? |
| 11:58.07 | Zeeek | by the way are you "La Mer" or "Lamer" than someone else? |
| 11:58.20 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: yes, the debug told that it could not find the file |
| 11:58.32 | Zeeek | so in a word, the advice "see debug info" wasn't bad |
| 11:58.49 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: so, it's not worth writing it to the wiki |
| 11:59.09 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: that's what I thought Mathew was right |
| 11:59.15 | Zeeek | I wish the error messages were better, debug or not. When something dies, there's time to write a detailed reason right then |
| 11:59.46 | JerJer | RoyK: it has to be something crazy you are doing - we run 1 gb of ram and have never seen that happen |
| 12:00.00 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: but first timer may not even know how to get the debug mode set up |
| 12:00.12 | Zeeek | I write two kinds of (bad) programs, one kind has zero messages the other says "can't open /usr/local/blah" |
| 12:00.39 | darwin35 | hey jerjer |
| 12:00.43 | Zeeek | There are so many different levels of experience out there it isn't obvious |
| 12:00.45 | JerJer | moo |
| 12:00.53 | darwin35 | whe using 3include is iy "" or <>? |
| 12:01.01 | darwin35 | 3=# |
| 12:01.02 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: you're definitely right |
| 12:01.33 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: anyway I will just have to keep going |
| 12:01.35 | RoyK | JerJer: I think it might be that mysqlsipfriends shite in 1.0 |
| 12:01.40 | Zeeek | I myself had to deal with JerJer in my very first IRC experience ever right here! And he helped me with my TDM400P - lucky he was in a good mood that day! |
| 12:01.47 | RoyK | we're testing out head in the lab |
| 12:02.00 | RoyK | running through tests and porting backend db |
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| 12:02.21 | [Lamer] | Zeeek: and how's he today? =-) |
| 12:02.28 | Zeeek | So far , so good :) |
| 12:02.55 | Zeeek | JerJer was seen 1 hour ago saying "Put down the crack pipe" |
| 12:03.02 | darwin35 | ? |
| 12:03.22 | Zeeek | not as good as "Next!", but still, not bad |
| 12:04.33 | Zeeek | I want to thank NuFone again publicly for giving my wife a way to call me toll-free from a country-western bar, it really does help |
| 12:05.26 | Zeeek | darwin35 ??? what's the public key on that? |
| 12:06.02 | darwin35 | on what |
| 12:06.11 | Zeeek | your question or comment above? |
| 12:06.21 | Zeeek | [14:00] <darwin35> whe using 3include is iy "" or <>? |
| 12:06.32 | Zeeek | bloody windows pastebuff |
| 12:06.34 | darwin35 | the 3 is a # |
| 12:06.43 | darwin35 | I am just asking |
| 12:07.04 | darwin35 | like if you use a #include in extensions.conf |
| 12:07.04 | Zeeek | it's double quotes |
| 12:07.10 | darwin35 | ok |
| 12:19.18 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.45 | shido6 | payphone? Zeeek? |
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| 12:33.05 | Blackvel | GET DATA returns -1 when the caller hangups up? |
| 12:33.13 | Blackvel | hangs up? |
| 12:36.50 | [Lamer] | RoyK: may I ask about Asterisk in Realtime Mode? |
| 12:38.50 | RoyK | sure. what? |
| 12:39.07 | darwin35 | i need help wit pickupgroup config |
| 12:39.43 | [Lamer] | RoyK: can sip.conf put it's gneral part in realtime mode also? |
| 12:39.48 | JerJer | [Lamer]: dont' use it |
| 12:39.55 | JerJer | at all |
| 12:40.25 | RoyK | JerJer: why not? |
| 12:40.39 | [Lamer] | JerJer: so what's generally put in realtime mode? and how to switch it properly |
| 12:41.25 | JerJer | realtime forces asterisk to depend on the database |
| 12:41.42 | JerJer | please tell me what Class 4/5 switch depends on a database to function? |
| 12:42.21 | [Lamer] | RoyK: in extconfig.conf, I put "sip.conf => mysql,asterisk,ast_config" |
| 12:43.12 | [Lamer] | RoyK: and in I put "switch => Realtime/general" or "switch => Realtime/1111" providing 1111 is an extension |
| 12:43.55 | [Lamer] | RoyK: are these correct? |
| 12:44.48 | [Lamer] | JerJer: but it's much easier to manage for larger scale system. That's one of the advantages I can think of |
| 12:45.57 | JerJer | using a database for us dumb humans to organize the data in a more efficient manor is absolutely necessary |
| 12:46.14 | JerJer | but forcing asterisk to depend on that same database to operate is pure ludicrous |
| 12:47.58 | [Lamer] | RoyK: are you still there? |
| 12:48.15 | RoyK | yes. i donæt use realtime extensions. sorry |
| 12:48.31 | [Lamer] | RoyK: that's alright |
| 12:48.57 | [Lamer] | I don't expect JerJer to use it either =-) |
| 12:49.09 | JerJer | hell no |
| 12:49.11 | RoyK | JerJer: using files for 10k users isn't a good idea, though |
| 12:49.22 | JerJer | did I say I used files? |
| 12:49.44 | [Lamer] | JerJer: man, tell me your solutions |
| 12:49.50 | JerJer | i've said realtime is not the answer |
| 12:50.01 | RoyK | well then |
| 12:50.22 | RoyK | tell us the answer, o great guru |
| 12:50.43 | JerJer | what's my motivation? |
| 12:52.30 | RoyK | sometimes i wonder what the fuck is wrong with you...... |
| 12:52.56 | [Lamer] | RoyK: take it easy :-) |
| 12:53.32 | JerJer | its called Innovation |
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| 12:53.54 | JerJer | i have written my own provisioning system around asterisk which is at arms length to the GPL |
| 12:54.35 | RoyK | "at arms length"? |
| 12:54.38 | JerJer | and I assure you when I feel it is ready for the world to see, it will be released |
| 12:54.47 | JerJer | ~google arms length GPL |
| 12:55.43 | JerJer | my provisioning system does not link with Asterisk whatsoever |
| 12:55.59 | JerJer | it just simply utilizes functionality that Mark has already built into Asterisk itself |
| 12:57.04 | RoyK | so basically the reason you don't want people to use realtime is you want them to purchase your solution? |
| 12:57.16 | JerJer | did I say that? |
| 12:57.27 | tzanger | realtime is a bad idea, period. |
| 12:57.33 | JerJer | i simply pointed out the fact that realtime is not the answer |
| 12:58.23 | newl | JerJer: Ericcson AXE and Alcatel S12 switches both use databases. ;) |
| 12:58.58 | tzanger | newl: good for them. :-) |
| 12:59.22 | Sato1 | realtime functions out of a dependence of a database.... *sighs* i m facing it, not easy to code in a gui |
| 12:59.48 | JerJer | newl: are they real class 4/5 switches? or just old bullshit hybrid pbx's? |
| 12:59.59 | newl | tzanger: It is indeed. They make money off of telcos. Do you? :) |
| 13:00.06 | newl | JerJer: Absolutely. |
| 13:00.17 | tzanger | newl: sure, but not at the same level they do :-) |
| 13:00.47 | tzanger | newl: the point is that for 99% of installations (hell, 99.99%) there is *no need* for the database, it's just one more point of failure and slowdown. |
| 13:01.06 | tzanger | newl: just use the db to store what you want and generate static config files, then push those to the asterisk box when an update is made |
| 13:01.16 | JerJer | exactly |
| 13:01.24 | RoyK | tzafrir: with 10.000 users_ |
| 13:01.25 | RoyK | ? |
| 13:01.44 | JerJer | our Telcia switch has a few hundred meg file that gets sent via RS-232 to configure it |
| 13:01.45 | RoyK | my current 4k user setup fscking needs a db |
| 13:01.51 | JerJer | then use a database |
| 13:01.51 | tzanger | RoyK: that's perhaps something different, but 99.99% of asterisk boxes do not have 10k users on them |
| 13:02.01 | JerJer | but don't force asterisk to depend on it to function |
| 13:02.01 | RoyK | i know |
| 13:02.05 | tzanger | hell 99.99% of asterisk setups don't even have 1000 users |
| 13:02.08 | JerJer | what happens when your database hangs? |
| 13:02.26 | newl | You reboot it. Same as what happens when an exchange packs it in. |
| 13:02.27 | RoyK | it doesn't |
| 13:02.35 | JerJer | or you need to upgrade the hardware on the database |
| 13:02.38 | tzanger | I believe the new hashtable stuff going into * will eliminate the need for DBs for even thousands of users |
| 13:02.39 | JerJer | ie you run out of hd space |
| 13:02.52 | RoyK | JerJer: you can't use anything except a db for sharing users between servers |
| 13:02.59 | RoyK | JerJer: please try to see the facts |
| 13:03.00 | tzanger | JerJer: that's called hotswap hardware and LVM :-) |
| 13:03.23 | tzanger | RoyK: nonsense; you can still generate the files statically and reload chan_sip.so when necessary |
| 13:03.23 | ManxPower | Everybody knows the future of Asterisk is not Realtime, it's a genetically enhanged Uhura with perfect memory and 32 arma. |
| 13:03.39 | ManxPower | arms too |
| 13:03.39 | tzanger | a genetically enhanced urethra? |
| 13:03.56 | ManxPower | Ugh. Now you can see my typing before first cup of coffee. |
| 13:03.59 | RoyK | tzafrir: no |
| 13:04.01 | newl | ManxPower: Does it some with the ear piece too? |
| 13:04.22 | ManxPower | newl: no ethernet port. I'll leave it to your imagination as to where it's located |
| 13:04.31 | RoyK | tzafrir: currently we're on 1.0 with mysql sipfriends |
| 13:04.36 | RoyK | no reload required |
| 13:04.37 | RoyK | no nothing |
| 13:04.54 | tzanger | RoyK: just mysql which is nastier than a port-town whore |
| 13:05.11 | RoyK | whatever |
| 13:05.13 | RoyK | it works |
| 13:05.26 | newl | Hope non of your users rely on vm notification. hehe |
| 13:05.31 | RoyK | we'll try porting to postgres on next install |
| 13:05.34 | JerJer | RoyK: so let me DDoS your mysql server. what's going to happen to the phone calls going on your asterisk box/ |
| 13:05.36 | JerJer | ? |
| 13:05.37 | tzanger | yes, mysql works if you carefully craft around all its bugs and transgressions. |
| 13:05.54 | RoyK | JerJer: what server? |
| 13:06.04 | ManxPower | JerJer: What IS the solution? |
| 13:06.14 | JerJer | your mysql database that your asterisk box depends on |
| 13:06.21 | ManxPower | Anyway, let me DDoS your Asterisk server and whats going to happen? |
| 13:06.23 | tzanger | sqlite would be nice but sql just isn't necessary for this stuff. db3 or gdbm would do a fantastic job |
| 13:06.24 | JerJer | ManxPower: not realtime |
| 13:06.24 | RoyK | tzafrir: the database server's been running stably since it was installed 9 months ago |
| 13:06.43 | JerJer | ManxPower: the three others will take over and we will filter you at the edge |
| 13:06.46 | ManxPower | JerJer: I didn't ask what was not the solution, I asked what the solution is. |
| 13:06.49 | tzanger | RoyK: as I said, mysql "works" if you carefully craft around all its ideosyncrasies and transgressions |
| 13:06.58 | RoyK | yep |
| 13:07.36 | ManxPower | I think Realtime IS the answer. Realtime w/MySQL may not the be answer. |
| 13:07.38 | tzanger | but as I said "works" in that regard really isn't working, at least not IMO. |
| 13:08.05 | newl | LDAP would scale better IMO. |
| 13:08.12 | tzanger | people use SQL for the same reason they use Windows; they just don't know there is anything different out there, so the only tool in their box gets used for everything |
| 13:08.23 | JerJer | ManxPower: so how do you deal with taking your database down for any sort of maintenance or simple faillure? |
| 13:08.55 | tzanger | newl: LDAP is nice, and it's designed to scale for this kind of thing. I still think that's overkill though; a simple GDBM or DB3 db would do the job very nicely and without all hte overhead |
| 13:08.56 | newl | JerJer: You rely on the secondary which replicates from the master. |
| 13:09.01 | ManxPower | JerJer: Um, how do you take SQLite down. It doesn't even have a server process? |
| 13:09.24 | JerJer | no clue, don't run SQLite |
| 13:09.25 | tzanger | SQL is nice, I love SQL. But I do know that it's not the answer for every DB |
| 13:09.26 | ManxPower | tzafrir: You are a lot smarter than you look, ya know that? *grin* |
| 13:09.39 | tzanger | ManxPower: hahahaha yeah and I have a face for radio |
| 13:09.48 | JerJer | newl: so duplicate hardware for one task? |
| 13:09.49 | newl | tzanger: Agreed, however the decision on what to use should be made with the anticipated number of accounts globally in mind. |
| 13:10.09 | newl | JerJer: Nah, that'd be silly. You can turn off your other two servers. =) |
| 13:10.26 | JerJer | its called geographic redundancy |
| 13:10.35 | ManxPower | JerJer: My point is that Realtime does NOT require a remote database. It's just a framework for integrating databases into Asterisk. That database could be, as tzanger said, GDBM or BerkelyDB |
| 13:10.37 | tzanger | newl: absolutely. meet current needs and short/mid-term expansion. SQL is still the wrong tool for the job. there's no need for the relational nature and overhead that SQL has |
| 13:10.42 | newl | And the difference between that and two or more database servers would be? |
| 13:11.03 | JerJer | expense |
| 13:11.17 | newl | I don't by that argument. Try again. |
| 13:11.42 | JerJer | if I can do the job cheaper, but as reliable as you, I win |
| 13:11.42 | ManxPower | JerJer: SQLite is, as I understand it, is just an SQL interface to something like GDBM |
| 13:12.14 | JerJer | ManxPower: sounds interesting, but i've still never used it |
| 13:12.26 | tzanger | what's the email address for the -users list admin? asterisk-users-admin? asterisk-users-moderator? |
| 13:17.28 | darwin35 | SQLite is a small C library that implements a self-contained, embeddable, zero-configuration SQL database engine. Features include: |
| 13:18.47 | darwin35 | www.sqlite.org |
| 13:19.30 | tzanger | * dar-wehn has joined the con-fer-ence. |
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| 13:21.38 | gpearson | does anyone have a docuemtn which shows how to lock a softphone or IP Phone to one Analog phone number attached to asterisk |
| 13:22.10 | ManxPower | gpearson: The concept does not really exist with Asterisk. |
| 13:22.24 | tzanger | gpearson: sure it can be done |
| 13:22.34 | tzanger | dump them into a context that only has access to the one analog line |
| 13:22.36 | ManxPower | Prhaps if you describe what you are trying to ACCOMPLISH, we can give you ideas. |
| 13:25.53 | sudhir492 | So JerJer, what do you suggest for large number of extensions? |
| 13:26.36 | sudhir492 | You dont have to give your provisioning system, jut a hint would be enough |
| 13:26.40 | tzanger | 983 extensions.conf |
| 13:26.44 | tzanger | is that too long? :-) |
| 13:28.34 | sudhir492 | So far, I have put together * boxes for businesses with a few dozen, or couple of hundred (max) extensions. Now I need to put together for my alumni association with around 3500 extension |
| 13:33.37 | tzanger | http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=149543&cid=12535022 |
| 13:33.39 | tzanger | hahahaha |
| 13:34.43 | [Lamer] | anyone using app_conference in the iaxclient project? |
| 13:35.46 | [Lamer] | just wondering if it requires any other hardware? |
| 13:40.57 | tzanger | hahahahhha |
| 13:41.10 | tzanger | condoleeza rice "this war [in iraq] came to us, not the other way around" |
| 13:41.14 | tzanger | HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA |
| 13:41.22 | jontow | she's so dumb. |
| 13:41.41 | JunK-Y | tzanger: mouhahah |
| 13:42.23 | tzanger | anyway time to get some coffee and visit mother iwth the grandkdis :-) |
| 13:42.24 | tzanger | later |
| 13:43.04 | JunK-Y | see ya. |
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| 13:52.31 | darwin35 | ok |
| 13:52.42 | darwin35 | tz whats up |
| 13:53.38 | darwin35 | TZang come chat in the conf |
| 13:54.17 | JunK-Y | he's afk, like he already said. |
| 13:54.41 | darwin35 | ok junky you come chat |
| 13:55.04 | JunK-Y | nah, im checking something. |
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| 13:55.54 | darwin35 | grr I need input |
| 13:55.58 | darwin35 | input |
| 13:57.07 | darwin35 | man the wikipage on callgroup and pickupgroup sucks |
| 13:59.41 | ariel_ | hello everyone |
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| 14:08.06 | Blackvel | hi ariel |
| 14:08.57 | RoyK | hi |
| 14:10.56 | ariel_ | hello Blackvel |
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| 14:24.29 | trimi` | any1 know good and cheap site for IAX calling with cheap rates ? ? ? |
| 14:28.07 | NewSole | hello folks |
| 14:28.14 | NewSole | whats cheap |
| 14:28.24 | Deryl | the corner hoe |
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| 14:29.07 | NewSole | that corner hoe... moved off the corner and in bed with me |
| 14:29.20 | Deryl | doh! hope you got your shots |
| 14:29.35 | NewSole | dam right.... |
| 14:29.53 | NewSole | had to find someway to put that hoe asleep |
| 14:30.16 | Deryl | hahaha |
| 14:30.27 | Deryl | good one :) |
| 14:30.31 | NewSole | :P |
| 14:30.49 | NewSole | its what happens when I have not had my morning coffee yet |
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| 14:31.12 | NewSole | this dam website is killing me |
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| 14:31.40 | NewSole | got alot done but not even 1/8 finished |
| 14:31.51 | NewSole | but looks good tho |
| 14:32.03 | Deryl | excellent. i've about 9 pages left to do on mine |
| 14:32.14 | NewSole | check it out |
| 14:32.23 | NewSole | http://www.virttel.com |
| 14:32.45 | Deryl | virtual telecomm? |
| 14:32.58 | Deryl | you like a nufone? |
| 14:33.37 | NewSole | no Virtual Teliphone.... and we sell primary hardware IAX2 Phones and service |
| 14:34.03 | RoyK | where from? |
| 14:34.07 | jetdotnet | hmmm my security settings prohibit running activeX on that page... |
| 14:34.09 | RoyK | what fons? |
| 14:34.09 | Deryl | what's the cost on a cheapy deskphone? I just need the phone. I already have a nufone # |
| 14:34.31 | NewSole | only activex on there is Flash |
| 14:35.03 | NewSole | cheapes is 75$ |
| 14:35.09 | Deryl | ahh no wonder it's not displaying everything. i use firefox. |
| 14:35.11 | jetdotnet | i prohibit everything though |
| 14:35.17 | ManxPower | Deryl: The SIPura SPA-841. Or you could use with a SIPura SA-1000 + analog phone |
| 14:35.18 | jetdotnet | yeah nothing in the middle |
| 14:35.36 | NewSole | like i said 1/8 done |
| 14:35.59 | NewSole | had to do the asp.net and the asp.net shopping cart |
| 14:36.10 | NewSole | and some of the grapics |
| 14:36.14 | jetdotnet | i at least get the flash banner in fff |
| 14:36.19 | jetdotnet | ie nothing |
| 14:36.22 | Deryl | ManxPower: average price? |
| 14:36.42 | ManxPower | Deryl: SPA-841 is around $100 |
| 14:36.54 | ManxPower | SPA-1000 is about $50, I think. |
| 14:37.00 | ManxPower | See www.voxzilla.com |
| 14:37.13 | ManxPower | or www.voipsupply.com |
| 14:37.22 | Zeeek | ManxPower you think the Cisco^H^H^HSipura SPA-841 is that much better than the BT100s? |
| 14:37.39 | Deryl | is it really shitty? I don't need multiple line features, just call forwarding and ability to direct to a voice mail |
| 14:37.55 | ManxPower | Zeeek: I would not give the BT100 to my ex-wife. I'd give her a glass of poison, but not a BT100 |
| 14:38.03 | Deryl | i'm *extremely* new to voip to include hardware |
| 14:38.09 | Zeeek | heh, mine work great - as CHEAP deskphones |
| 14:38.21 | Zeeek | Deryl will you run asterisk? |
| 14:38.39 | ManxPower | Deryl: *shrug* Go with the BT100. If you hate it, you've only lost about $65 |
| 14:38.55 | Deryl | Zeeek: yes. I've been reading the book from the site, have it installed on my freebsd box, and will be attempting my own setup in the next few days |
| 14:38.56 | ManxPower | The BT100 doesn't even support callerid name. |
| 14:39.22 | Zeeek | Deryl so the point is asterisk can handle the features you want (except multiple lines) |
| 14:39.27 | Zeeek | no that's true |
| 14:39.34 | ManxPower | Zeeek: I won't use any Grandstream products. They have a history of terribly, buggy firmware. |
| 14:39.39 | Zeeek | but that's the major complaint I'd have with it |
| 14:40.01 | Zeeek | mine all work well, even in the hands of newbies |
| 14:40.21 | Zeeek | I got a whif of my ip500 which is a dream, but as you know I had to send it back |
| 14:40.32 | ManxPower | The BT100 also does not support a local dialplan so you have to wait for the timeout or like a call phone, press Dial/Send |
| 14:40.38 | Zeeek | I think those polcoms at near $200 are great |
| 14:40.52 | Zeeek | I happen ti like having a call button |
| 14:41.27 | Zeeek | the call button (not # a real button) lets you dial annoyingly long numbers without needing to hurry - (maybe an old man thing, eh?) |
| 14:41.43 | Zeeek | Deryl read THIS: (coming) |
| 14:41.49 | ManxPower | Zeeek: *nod* A good local dialplan will let you do that too. |
| 14:41.58 | Zeeek | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html |
| 14:41.58 | Zeeek | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html |
| 14:42.10 | ManxPower | Since a good local dialplan will almost never rely on a timeout |
| 14:42.18 | Deryl | Zeeek: thank you |
| 14:42.55 | Deryl | i've tried not to say too much in here because i really am not sure of myself with setting this up, but you're the first one i've seen give decent info besides ManxPower |
| 14:43.37 | ManxPower | <-- smarter than he looks, ya know |
| 14:43.45 | Deryl | hehe |
| 14:43.50 | Zeeek | wow! in a class with ManxPower! I am not worthy! |
| 14:44.14 | Zeeek | ManxPower are you into sightseeing and museums or what? |
| 14:44.23 | ManxPower | Zeeek: Yes. |
| 14:44.48 | Deryl | right now i use x-lite through a friend's asterisk box. |
| 14:45.07 | Deryl | do i need to make him disconnect my account first or can i set it up and simply have my asterisk box log into nufone? |
| 14:45.17 | Zeeek | ok, if you come over here, this da place. I'll invite you to lunch if you're available, can help with hotel advice possibly... etc. just let me know. |
| 14:45.19 | Deryl | thus 'disconnecting' it from his |
| 14:45.42 | ManxPower | Zeeek: I'll prolly be in paris for 1 day |
| 14:45.51 | Zeeek | you got my email the othr day |
| 14:46.18 | Zeeek | btw if you need to you can use our net connection and WIndows PCs. |
| 14:46.19 | ManxPower | Zeeek: Did it come from "Zeek"? |
| 14:46.31 | Zeeek | no I mean I posted my address here |
| 14:46.40 | Zeeek | manx-zeeek@sneakemail.com |
| 14:46.46 | ManxPower | oh. Yes, but since it's not in my e-mail it's not saved |
| 14:47.08 | Zeeek | I'll return mail you with an almost real address and phone numbers etc. |
| 14:47.16 | ManxPower | nifty. |
| 14:47.24 | Zeeek | or you can let me know the dates and times |
| 14:47.26 | file | Deryl: you need to tell him to stop registering your account on his box, and once you register it on your own box NuFone will send your calls your way instead of to his box |
| 14:47.51 | Deryl | ahh ok. |
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| 14:50.45 | ilium007 | hi all |
| 14:50.58 | ilium007 | can someone help me with extension.conf ? |
| 14:51.23 | file | maybe, we can only help if we know what to help with |
| 14:52.06 | ilium007 | I have just set up my first asterisk box, have created two extensions in sip.conf, but i am unsire what is required in extension.conf |
| 14:52.34 | file | you should go read about the dialplan |
| 14:52.36 | file | ~useful asterisk docs |
| 14:52.37 | jbot | methinks useful asterisk docs is it has been said that useful asterisk docs is (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unnoficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk (the Wiki), and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk (ManxPower's site), and http://asteriskdocs.org, also, read all files in ... |
| 14:52.48 | file | good links, will have the info |
| 14:52.54 | ilium007 | i have been reading about dial plan |
| 14:53.02 | ilium007 | i am confused about contextx thats all |
| 14:53.16 | darwin35 | illum |
| 14:53.21 | file | context is like a part of the dialplan, you split it up |
| 14:53.22 | ilium007 | yo |
| 14:53.27 | Deryl | hehe man I am lovin jbot :) |
| 14:53.31 | Deryl | jbot: botsex |
| 14:53.32 | jbot | Ok! Drop your pants and bend over!, or http://www.scoutwalker.com/ |
| 14:53.36 | Deryl | hahahaha |
| 14:53.36 | Zeeek | ManxPower ok I sent you a msg at the address I found on the list |
| 14:54.06 | file | Deryl: the geek one is cooler |
| 14:54.15 | file | Deryl: it's all linux commands ;) |
| 14:54.21 | file | jbot: sex |
| 14:54.22 | jbot | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 14:54.22 | Deryl | hahah cool |
| 14:54.27 | Deryl | bloot? |
| 14:54.32 | file | yup |
| 14:54.48 | Deryl | debian pkg or cvs pull? |
| 14:54.56 | file | it's run by Tim Riker, not us |
| 14:55.00 | Deryl | ahh |
| 14:55.16 | Deryl | sec. want to bookmark those URLs jbot spit |
| 14:55.20 | newbien | ilium007: good example that works: sign up for fwd iax registry; use fwd info page for iax setup of ast* conf files; test and use as template for your needs |
| 14:56.05 | ilium007 | newbien: what is fwd iax registry |
| 14:56.42 | Deryl | might want to edit that asterisk docs entry. ManxPower has moved all docs from http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk to asteriskdocs.org |
| 15:03.31 | Zeeek | http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm |
| 15:03.41 | Zeeek | Deryl this is good too: ^^^^^^ |
| 15:04.31 | Deryl | sec. firefox just shit the bed :/ |
| 15:04.57 | Zeeek | I've heard it isn't that great on FreeBSD |
| 15:05.41 | Deryl | no this is the windows version |
| 15:05.54 | Deryl | i don't use unix for my desktops |
| 15:06.01 | Deryl | unix is server stuff for me |
| 15:06.15 | PatrickDK | oh come on, what about win2k3 :) |
| 15:06.24 | Deryl | not a friggin chance |
| 15:06.32 | Zeeek | Lo,gCorn ? |
| 15:06.36 | PatrickDK | heh, I have 3 win2k3 servers, and I don't trust them at all |
| 15:06.59 | Zeeek | windows servers = military intelligence |
| 15:07.00 | Deryl | sec. need to cremate some extensions here |
| 15:07.04 | PatrickDK | but then, the only way to get windows to run halfway stable, is to never install a hotfix or upgrade |
| 15:07.07 | Deryl | Zeeek: hey now i resent that |
| 15:07.12 | PatrickDK | and well, that compromises security |
| 15:07.14 | Deryl | i spent 8 years military :) |
| 15:07.14 | Zeeek | you in the army? |
| 15:07.21 | Zeeek | oh, well you're out now |
| 15:07.34 | Deryl | once a soldier, always a soldier |
| 15:07.38 | Zeeek | you're a voip rebel/pioneer |
| 15:07.47 | Zeeek | you don't take orders, you kick ass |
| 15:07.50 | Deryl | hahahah |
| 15:08.00 | Zeeek | take no prisoners |
| 15:08.10 | Deryl | One Shot, One Kill |
| 15:08.40 | Zeeek | operation desert thunder hasn't come to voip this year, but it'll happen in 2006 |
| 15:09.11 | Zeeek | the dancing light is lit |
| 15:10.12 | Zeeek | all seriousness aside.... when you can buy voip routers in Kinkos, voip has come out of the closet |
| 15:10.36 | Zeeek | it'sz not the next big thing, it's the last big thing |
| 15:10.47 | ManxPower | Asterisk has the same goals as the USA: Total World Domination. |
| 15:11.02 | Zeeek | I heartily approve of the worn and deprecate the other |
| 15:11.09 | Zeeek | of the one |
| 15:11.29 | Zeeek | btw asterisk and verything else out of the us suffers from one bad fault |
| 15:11.38 | Zeeek | it's very us-centric |
| 15:11.48 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (brandon@sedorox.staff.smartserv) |
| 15:12.06 | Zeeek | nothing will ever work out of the box in ANY country - of course this is impossible to do, but it is a problem |
| 15:15.26 | Zeeek | newsweek and other sources claim there is a serious brain drain problem now that the US has tightened immigration and work permit regulations. The US is no longer the top destination for foreign talent. Those in denial think that the US's strength is all Ameriacn, but this has never been true. |
| 15:17.19 | Sedorox | lol |
| 15:21.53 | ManxPower | Zeeek: Once oil is bought/sold in Euros the USA will start to admit that there are significant problems. |
| 15:22.11 | ManxPower | I hope to get out before that happens. |
| 15:22.40 | Deryl | never forget, every 'power' has it's cycle. |
| 15:23.04 | ManxPower | Deryl: Of course! This cycle seems to be Europe on the rise, USA on the decline. |
| 15:23.14 | ManxPower | It's a nice change. 8-) |
| 15:23.41 | Deryl | to be expected. the US was a major power for over 50 years. that's a LONG time for a country to remain at the forefront or damn close to it |
| 15:23.55 | Deryl | the EU will have it's day and then decline as well |
| 15:23.58 | ManxPower | Deryl: Yup. |
| 15:25.25 | RoyK | the bush regime' budget deficit is still climbing |
| 15:25.30 | RoyK | tamtitam :) |
| 15:25.30 | Zeeek | well, the EU may or may not have its day, but you are right, the US in the context of history is a young country |
| 15:25.48 | Deryl | Bush is hardly a regime. |
| 15:25.53 | Zeeek | remeber, Portugal and Austria were once ruling empires! |
| 15:26.05 | Deryl | ok, i'm staying out of this if it's going to be a farcefest |
| 15:26.12 | ManxPower | Zeeek: There are three things I think that has helped make the USA great. Single currency, good roads, and no border crossings between states. |
| 15:26.18 | Zeeek | Ploes claim the US constitution is based on theirs (and they may be right!) |
| 15:26.18 | RoyK | derka: the 'bush regime', meaning the regime fronted by bush |
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| 15:26.27 | Zeeek | The people! |
| 15:26.41 | Zeeek | Poles claim... |
| 15:26.54 | RoyK | noth poles |
| 15:26.57 | RoyK | north |
| 15:27.07 | Zeeek | ManxPower that is my dream for Europe, but I see it floundering already |
| 15:27.14 | ManxPower | Zeeek: *shrug* Large parts of the US constitution don't really seem to be enforced anymore. |
| 15:27.19 | Zeeek | the states idea is good |
| 15:27.34 | Zeeek | only when convenient like the gun bullshit |
| 15:27.39 | ManxPower | Zeeek: a single anguage also helped the USA. |
| 15:27.42 | Zeeek | right to bear arms |
| 15:27.48 | Zeeek | that's shot now! |
| 15:27.57 | Zeeek | unless you mean spanish? |
| 15:28.13 | ManxPower | Zeeek: I don't like guns, but even me, the uberliberal, supports the right to bear arms |
| 15:28.19 | Zeeek | join #asterisk-politics |
| 15:28.25 | ilium007 | can someone tell me if: |
| 15:28.29 | ilium007 | exten => 993,1,Dial() |
| 15:28.29 | ilium007 | exten => 993,2,Hangup |
| 15:28.39 | ilium007 | is the simplest form of an extension entry |
| 15:28.40 | Zeeek | don't interrupt important discussions! :) |
| 15:28.53 | Deryl | hahaha |
| 15:28.59 | Zeeek | what d'you mean "simpplest" |
| 15:29.00 | Deryl | Zeeek: you rock |
| 15:29.09 | Zeeek | the simplest would be exten => Noop |
| 15:29.22 | ilium007 | i just want to test my x-lite ohone |
| 15:29.22 | Zeeek | with a priority in there if it supposed to work |
| 15:29.25 | ilium007 | i have put the entries in sip.conf |
| 15:29.35 | ilium007 | the phone connects and can all 8500 and 1000 etc |
| 15:29.36 | Zeeek | the simplest would be exten => s,1,Noop |
| 15:30.04 | ilium007 | i have made 2 extensions 947 and 927 |
| 15:30.17 | ilium007 | i just want to to be able to call 927, go to voice mail if unavailable |
| 15:30.17 | Zeeek | asterisk-politik |
| 15:30.28 | RoyK | ilium007: why not 942? |
| 15:30.39 | Zeeek | ilium007 look into macros |
| 15:30.44 | Zeeek | why not 42 ? |
| 15:30.51 | Blackvel | who has experience with Nikotel and USA LA nummbers (nikotalk)? |
| 15:30.55 | ilium007 | i am after a quick test so i can go to bed ! |
| 15:31.01 | Zeeek | Poll: what should 42 do in dialplans as a default standard? |
| 15:31.25 | ilium007 | thanks for the help guys |
| 15:32.12 | file | Zeeek: engage the improbability drive |
| 15:32.23 | Zeeek | ah, of course |
| 15:32.38 | Zeeek | maybe we'd need to add sme of those BBC recordings to sounds? |
| 15:32.48 | file | yup, and then get sued |
| 15:34.12 | Zeeek | depends on who hars them |
| 15:34.45 | ManxPower | Blackvel: I have Louisiana Nimbers |
| 15:34.52 | Deryl | BBC? send me all the Dr. Who series :) |
| 15:34.54 | ManxPower | And Numbers too! |
| 15:36.26 | Blackvel | :) |
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| 15:36.56 | Blackvel | i tried to get this LA number active, but nikotel seems to do something wrong. a fax tone is on phone when I call my number. very weird |
| 15:37.17 | Sedorox | you got assigned someone else's number |
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| 15:38.33 | Zeeek | once I got a $1000 phone bill. My neighbor, who just got out of jail, tapped into my phone line and was calling his girlfriend from his place on my line |
| 15:38.44 | Zeeek | maybe that's the fax you hear. He moved up to fax |
| 15:39.34 | Sedorox | lol |
| 15:40.01 | Sedorox | were you able to recover damages? |
| 15:40.27 | Blackvel | Sedorox: I don't believe that |
| 15:40.58 | Sedorox | eh.. I would.. if he was using it at night... and Zeeek had cable... and doesn't use the phone... |
| 15:41.41 | Sedorox | anyway.. bbiab |
| 15:42.01 | Deryl | hahahah |
| 15:42.30 | Deryl | chmod 0000 Zeeek |
| 15:42.32 | Deryl | muahahaha |
| 15:43.19 | Zeeek | to answer, this happened YEARS ago. I had to call the operator who called the long distance number and asked the cluless idiot girl who has been phoning her and she answered |
| 15:43.42 | Zeeek | the operator told me, ok but how do we know you didn't let him use the phone? |
| 15:44.14 | Zeeek | so I said you don't. I didn't pay. They shut me down. And I got a new line installed under a different name 2 days later |
| 15:44.32 | file | nifty |
| 15:45.52 | Zeeek | if you think about it, a person, not a compnay should be able to get a number and then kep it for life |
| 15:46.04 | Deryl | ok, here we go on the setup. |
| 15:46.23 | Zeeek | that way the company asks you for your number and sticks a pointer to that |
| 15:46.34 | Zeeek | better chmod me back or it won't work |
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| 15:46.41 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o bkw_] by ChanServ |
| 15:46.49 | Deryl | chmod 0555 Zeeek |
| 15:46.58 | *** join/#asterisk Silik0n (~krice@newrso.suspicious.org) |
| 15:47.09 | Zeeek | I washed off the sticky bit last night :) |
| 15:47.09 | file | bkw! Silik0n! |
| 15:47.20 | Deryl | Zeeek: hehe |
| 15:48.51 | RoyK | Zeeek: you can't do that_ |
| 15:48.56 | RoyK | ? |
| 15:49.27 | Zeeek | didn't want the stuff on the sheets! |
| 15:49.48 | Deryl | i am SO not touchign that |
| 15:49.53 | Deryl | s/ign/ing/ |
| 15:50.20 | *** join/#asterisk meppl (mephisto@p54AAF88C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:50.20 | Zeeek | I am SO not wanting you to touch anything of mine |
| 15:50.35 | Deryl | hahahahahahaha |
| 15:50.50 | Deryl | oh yeah. I can see this is gonna be a fun place to hang out :] |
| 15:50.51 | Zeeek | gotta be careful here, but us breeders are tolerated |
| 15:51.04 | Zeeek | only if you really read those docs |
| 15:51.10 | Zeeek | otherwise, it's yer ass |
| 15:51.17 | Deryl | umm, unless it's green, stick, and smokable.. I don't want to know anything about breeders ;) |
| 15:51.25 | Deryl | s/stick/sticky/ |
| 15:51.26 | Zeeek | and don't go installing @hole or any of those other wimpy crutches |
| 15:51.40 | Deryl | naww, I'd consider that a failing on my part if i did that |
| 15:51.50 | Deryl | i have specific criterium for what i want |
| 15:51.55 | Zeeek | I call it the Cyrano factor |
| 15:52.14 | Zeeek | when the guy with nose isn't there anymore, you're screwed |
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| 15:52.41 | Deryl | i'm.. i'm.. i'm just going to remain silent |
| 15:52.58 | Deryl | somehow i have a feeling that will be safer at this point ;] |
| 15:53.07 | Zeeek | Cyrano? Edmond Rostand? The poet with the big nose? |
| 15:53.15 | Zeeek | Steve Marin? |
| 15:53.18 | Zeeek | Martin? |
| 15:53.28 | Deryl | poe, keats, those are the ones i know |
| 15:53.45 | Zeeek | you are so not gay |
| 15:53.48 | Deryl | neighbor needs me so you geta respite from my strangeness |
| 15:54.01 | Deryl | no, i am definitely straight |
| 15:54.04 | Zeeek | yeah gop mow the lawn like you promised |
| 15:54.13 | Deryl | I was given an outie so I could spend my days hunting innies |
| 15:54.25 | darwin35 | need help with dial in logic and groups |
| 15:54.29 | Deryl | & |
| 15:55.02 | Zeeek | ask darwin35 |
| 15:55.16 | Zeeek | darwin35: ask. |
| 15:55.33 | Zeeek | bkw_ will answer |
| 15:56.22 | darwin35 | http://pastebin.ca/11796 |
| 15:56.57 | darwin35 | BKW you alive |
| 15:57.14 | darwin35 | he is not even here |
| 15:58.16 | Zeeek | he was a few minutes ago |
| 15:58.23 | Zeeek | you scared him away |
| 15:59.02 | Zeeek | that somehow seems incredibly complicated |
| 16:00.11 | Silik0n | darwin35 screw the diaplan write you an AGI in C to handle it al |
| 16:00.13 | Silik0n | l |
| 16:00.18 | Zeeek | unless it's the typo in line 20 you are looking for? |
| 16:01.07 | Silik0n | whats the typo in line 20? |
| 16:01.17 | Silik0n | 21 |
| 16:01.22 | Silik0n | hah I see it now |
| 16:01.59 | Silik0n | might be another one on line 26 as well |
| 16:03.08 | darwin35 | I have never writen a agi |
| 16:03.25 | darwin35 | and for the moment I have a short time to get this working |
| 16:03.45 | RoyK | darwin35: what's wrong? |
| 16:03.52 | Silik0n | so whats seems to be the problem? |
| 16:04.33 | darwin35 | hold a min have to ree look at it |
| 16:04.48 | Zeeek | other than the painful brain loop that occurs when reading it |
| 16:04.54 | *** join/#asterisk szw2001 (~vip@218.1.218.187) |
| 16:05.05 | szw2001 | ah |
| 16:05.06 | darwin35 | lol |
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| 16:05.32 | darwin35 | its suppost to allow inboud to roll over but block call waiting |
| 16:05.35 | Zeeek | ADD A, 1 ; add one to a |
| 16:05.44 | *** part/#asterisk DrRighteous (~DrRighteo@ool-182c867b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 16:07.27 | darwin35 | and if pickupgroup 1 is in use got to pickup group2 and so on |
| 16:07.33 | *** part/#asterisk szw2001 (~vip@218.1.218.187) |
| 16:10.02 | Zeeek | give me a kinder mental picture, here. Why are there groups of many people? Are they phone hookers classified by some criterion? |
| 16:10.23 | Zeeek | why is the particular behavior needed I mean? |
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| 16:14.58 | RickTick | hello All: Anyone using any Open-Source software for prepaid billing? |
| 16:15.19 | darwin35 | for cisci phones to rollover incoming calls |
| 16:15.35 | darwin35 | to line2 3 and 4 |
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| 16:16.14 | Zeeek | ok I see better now |
| 16:16.30 | RoyK | for testing, how can i generate, say, 500 calls from one asterisk box to another, keep them as they queue and then just hang them up? |
| 16:16.56 | Zeeek | .call files ? |
| 16:17.27 | Zeeek | followed by "restart now" |
| 16:17.29 | hypa7ia | RoyK: http://sipp.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:18.13 | Zeeek | that looks neat! |
| 16:18.27 | hypa7ia | yea :-) |
| 16:19.05 | Zeeek | my family is away :( |
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| 16:24.22 | darwin35 | how do you turn off call waiting in asterisj so it is never used |
| 16:24.48 | file | darwin35: you mean on a zaptel device? |
| 16:24.57 | file | cause if it's SIP, then it's the phone that does call waiting |
| 16:25.14 | darwin35 | ok |
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| 16:28.30 | asterisk99 | anyone using Sipura phones/adapters? |
| 16:28.42 | brad[] | asterisk99: yes |
| 16:29.04 | asterisk99 | brad[]: Did you have problems getting one phone eto ring another? |
| 16:29.17 | brad[] | no |
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| 16:30.02 | asterisk99 | brad[]: My setup is OK with Grandstreams, but Sipura's won't call each other (I can call voicemail np) |
| 16:30.18 | Zeeek | file so if the phone does call waiting should the criscos manage that using lines? |
| 16:30.21 | RoyK | darwin35: setgroup |
| 16:30.24 | RoyK | see that |
| 16:30.30 | Zeeek | he saw it |
| 16:30.58 | Zeeek | asterisk99 what exactly happens when you call? |
| 16:31.20 | brad[] | asterisk99: Hrm, that's strange. |
| 16:32.00 | asterisk99 | brad[]: After a 5 second delay, I hear the freaky hold music, then a busy tone |
| 16:32.03 | Zeeek | gotta be a sipura dialplan issue |
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| 16:32.26 | Zeeek | freaky as in "I dodn't put that there"? |
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| 16:32.48 | SuPrSluG | 'allo |
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| 16:33.14 | SuPrSluG | does teliax offer lnp? |
| 16:33.18 | Zeeek | asterisk99 : what does the CLI say when you make that call? |
| 16:33.23 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: No I was making a funny --- the on-hold music is your typical spaced-out new-age 1001 strings Moog music |
| 16:33.35 | Zeeek | I never heard it |
| 16:33.36 | brad[] | Does anyone here have experience trunking a Nortel CICS PBX to asterisk? |
| 16:34.21 | Zeeek | SuPrSluG they do have a site that might say |
| 16:34.26 | *** part/#asterisk Pkunk (~Pkunkage@mbbs.munnabhai.info) |
| 16:35.05 | SuPrSluG | they show availble #'s in my area, but nothing definitive on LPN |
| 16:35.18 | Zeeek | email them |
| 16:35.30 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: I see Executing Dial("SIP/ext100-db96","Sip/ext/ext101|5|Ttm") |
| 16:35.59 | Zeeek | Sip/ext/ext101 ? |
| 16:36.03 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: Folled by ---- Called ext101 |
| 16:36.12 | SuPrSluG | i wiil just checking w/ the channel to see iffin somebody else had done it |
| 16:36.17 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: I see Executing Dial("SIP/ext100-db96","Sip/ext101|5|Ttm") |
| 16:36.26 | RoyK | brad[]: just use a t1 or e1... |
| 16:36.42 | *** part/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@179.80-203-29.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:36.50 | Zeeek | why are you only allowing 5 second to answer? |
| 16:37.10 | Zeeek | and why is there an 'm' for music in the dial? |
| 16:37.11 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: Cuz for testing purposes, I didn;t want to wait 20 |
| 16:37.20 | Zeeek | but if it doesn't work... |
| 16:37.21 | brad[] | royK: Um a Nortel CICS doesn't have T1/E1 connections by default. |
| 16:37.26 | brad[] | Dangit, he left |
| 16:37.36 | Zeeek | naw he's there |
| 16:37.47 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: Ohhhh. THAT'S what the m meant |
| 16:37.52 | Zeeek | hmmmm |
| 16:37.57 | Zeeek | show application dial |
| 16:38.01 | brad[] | Zeeek: ? |
| 16:38.06 | Zeeek | I dunno Brad |
| 16:38.21 | Zeeek | I thouhgt nortel was an old satteilte |
| 16:38.37 | brad[] | lol |
| 16:38.59 | Zeeek | or maybe I was confusing them with nortronics that made tape heads in the 60s |
| 16:39.32 | Zeeek | asterisk99 : still doesn't expalin the sipura difference |
| 16:39.38 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: exten => 100,1,Dial(SIP/ext100,15,Tt) |
| 16:40.01 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: exten => 100,2,Macro(vmessage,100) |
| 16:40.01 | Zeeek | ok what happens? |
| 16:40.15 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: exten => 100,3,Hangup |
| 16:40.59 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: exten => 101 (sames as 100 except 101) |
| 16:41.09 | shepherd | brad[]: can CICS do voip? |
| 16:41.23 | Zeeek | actually it needs to be 102 |
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| 16:41.39 | Zeeek | IIRC |
| 16:41.45 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: 102?? |
| 16:41.50 | Zeeek | n+101 |
| 16:41.59 | Zeeek | oh you meant the extension |
| 16:42.04 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: yes |
| 16:42.06 | brad[] | shepherd: It can do H323, but the only way available to this particular one (without spending lots of cash) is to trunk with analog lines |
| 16:42.10 | Zeeek | have you looked at any simple examples? |
| 16:42.13 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: yes |
| 16:42.33 | Zeeek | because the vm stuff is usually done with priorities |
| 16:42.47 | shepherd | asterisk support h323 (somewhat) you can try using that :) |
| 16:42.55 | Zeeek | the classic "oneline" macro for ex |
| 16:43.17 | shepherd | wait... so you have to pay for h323? |
| 16:43.24 | brad[] | shepherd: Can't - that would involve spending hundreds of dollars on the correct module to implement H323 support (Yay Nortel!) |
| 16:43.31 | shepherd | hahaha.. |
| 16:43.44 | shepherd | yeah.. you can do analog lines |
| 16:43.46 | shepherd | or t1 |
| 16:43.59 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: OK, now I can call one to the other (but the adapter does not cause a ring) |
| 16:44.02 | brad[] | shepherd: Are you familiar with the configuration involved on the Nortel? |
| 16:44.08 | shepherd | nope! |
| 16:44.13 | brad[] | hurk |
| 16:44.13 | shepherd | good luck with that |
| 16:44.47 | Zeeek | asterisk99 : you mean the phone connected doesn't ring? |
| 16:44.54 | Zeeek | that would be a local sipura issue |
| 16:45.33 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: Correct.., the only ring is thru the earpiece of ext100 when it calls ext101 (if I pick up ext101, the phones connect) |
| 16:46.06 | Zeeek | it may be the phone - what is it? European? |
| 16:46.20 | Zeeek | I have this problem with some phones |
| 16:46.34 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: Sipura (China) |
| 16:46.51 | Zeeek | oh I though you said adapter |
| 16:47.18 | Zeeek | sounds like the rig is set to zero or something dumb like that |
| 16:47.23 | Zeeek | ring |
| 16:47.26 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: I bought both the Sipura 1001 adapter and thhe 841 deskphone |
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| 16:48.06 | Zeeek | and what is connected to the ATA ? |
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| 16:49.03 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: A Uniden is connected to the ATA (it works fine with the Grandstream ATA) |
| 16:49.47 | asterisk99 | Zeeek: It's a maddenly simple system |
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| 17:12.26 | W1thdraw | after i make changes to my sip.conf do i have to restart or can i just type reload at the cli? |
| 17:13.14 | kapejod | reload is enough. |
| 17:13.28 | W1thdraw | ok thanks |
| 17:13.35 | kapejod | even "sip reload" |
| 17:13.51 | Silik0n | W1thdraw: just type sip reload you dont ahve to reload everything |
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| 17:25.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | reload!!! |
| 17:25.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :) |
| 17:25.53 | shepherd | matrix? |
| 17:26.01 | shepherd | or metallica? |
| 17:26.58 | Sedorox | metallica SUCKS... |
| 17:27.09 | shepherd | heh |
| 17:30.02 | W1thdraw | im having trouble dialing to diff extensions can someone have a look at this? |
| 17:30.02 | W1thdraw | http://pastebin.ca/11804 |
| 17:30.17 | MikeJ[Laptop] | no |
| 17:30.24 | RoyK | no way |
| 17:30.42 | RoyK | i wonder how many runs large asterisk installations.... |
| 17:30.46 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Unable to find a path from gsm to g729 |
| 17:30.53 | MikeJ[Laptop] | there you go |
| 17:31.33 | shepherd | yeah.. you might have to buy some g729 licenses if you haven't already |
| 17:31.35 | W1thdraw | how do i fix that |
| 17:31.44 | W1thdraw | o |
| 17:31.44 | MikeJ[Laptop] | disallow=g729 |
| 17:31.50 | shepherd | that works too |
| 17:31.51 | shepherd | :) |
| 17:31.53 | MikeJ[Laptop] | or buy license |
| 17:32.00 | W1thdraw | im poor |
| 17:32.01 | shepherd | in sip.conf |
| 17:32.04 | W1thdraw | so disable |
| 17:32.18 | shepherd | g729 is like $10 |
| 17:32.29 | shepherd | don't give us that poor crap :) |
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| 17:32.57 | Sedorox | I was expeciting it to be like $100/license |
| 17:33.00 | Sedorox | er |
| 17:33.01 | Sedorox | user |
| 17:33.03 | Sedorox | use* |
| 17:33.04 | Sedorox | lol |
| 17:33.18 | RoyK | i wonder how many runs large asterisk installations.... large as in several thousands of users and 20-30k calls per day |
| 17:33.23 | Moc | it 10$ per channel used |
| 17:33.24 | W1thdraw | hmmm is it worth buying the license? |
| 17:33.36 | RoyK | W1thdraw: depends on what you want |
| 17:33.42 | shepherd | if your phones support gsm.. use gsm |
| 17:33.43 | Sedorox | not bad |
| 17:33.45 | W1thdraw | im just doinf this for a high school project |
| 17:33.47 | RoyK | gsm can do, but bad audio |
| 17:33.58 | RoyK | W1thdraw: then just use gsm or g711 |
| 17:33.59 | DevZer0 | newbie question, is it possible to connect multiple locations asterix PBX over the internet ? |
| 17:34.02 | RoyK | or g726 |
| 17:34.06 | shepherd | ulaw has the best audio quality |
| 17:34.10 | RoyK | devel: yes |
| 17:34.12 | shepherd | but uses lots of bandwidth |
| 17:34.13 | RoyK | shepherd: alaw!!! |
| 17:34.17 | shepherd | or alwa |
| 17:34.17 | RoyK | :D |
| 17:34.18 | Moc | g726 is great EXCEPT when audio volume is high.. |
| 17:34.20 | shepherd | alaw :) |
| 17:34.22 | DevZer0 | cool |
| 17:34.31 | RoyK | ulaw is evil |
| 17:34.43 | shepherd | so is alaw :) |
| 17:35.18 | shepherd | DevZer0: of course it is! |
| 17:36.00 | shepherd | unless you are talking about redundant asterisk boxes.. |
| 17:36.05 | shepherd | then that's a little sketchy |
| 17:36.32 | RoyK | does anyone have a HA-solution for *? |
| 17:36.40 | W1thdraw | ok now i got a diff error |
| 17:36.40 | W1thdraw | http://pastebin.ca/11806 |
| 17:37.13 | RoyK | W1thdraw: codec? |
| 17:37.25 | W1thdraw | i dont know |
| 17:37.34 | RoyK | try disallow=all, allow=alaw |
| 17:37.37 | RoyK | start there |
| 17:37.42 | RoyK | in sip.conf |
| 17:37.44 | RoyK | or iax.conf |
| 17:37.45 | W1thdraw | i just disabled gsm729 |
| 17:37.46 | RoyK | or both |
| 17:37.52 | RoyK | gsm??? |
| 17:37.59 | RoyK | g729 or gsm? |
| 17:38.15 | shepherd | do your phones support gsm? |
| 17:38.17 | W1thdraw | disallow=g729 |
| 17:38.22 | W1thdraw | errrr |
| 17:38.24 | shepherd | what do your phone support? |
| 17:38.24 | RoyK | W1thdraw: disallow=all |
| 17:38.28 | RoyK | allow=alaw |
| 17:38.30 | W1thdraw | i have a spa841 and spa2002 |
| 17:38.32 | RoyK | allow=ulaw |
| 17:38.35 | RoyK | try that first |
| 17:38.44 | RoyK | W1thdraw: ok? |
| 17:38.45 | shepherd | yeah |
| 17:38.51 | shepherd | do that |
| 17:38.51 | shepherd | :) |
| 17:38.53 | W1thdraw | ok |
| 17:39.19 | W1thdraw | do i put that under each device id bracket? |
| 17:39.57 | shepherd | or globally above them |
| 17:40.20 | W1thdraw | ok |
| 17:40.56 | W1thdraw | o wait in my sip i have allow=g729 under each one |
| 17:41.56 | W1thdraw | lol |
| 17:42.13 | W1thdraw | sweet |
| 17:42.22 | W1thdraw | i just removed all that crap and it works now |
| 17:42.26 | shepherd | awesome |
| 17:42.29 | shepherd | try gsm now :) |
| 17:42.37 | shepherd | disallow=all |
| 17:42.39 | shepherd | allow=gsm |
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| 17:42.55 | jabbzy | hey folkes |
| 17:43.45 | W1thdraw | ow crap i should have dialed one phone on speaker then picked up the other w/ speaker |
| 17:43.53 | W1thdraw | *shouldnt |
| 17:45.13 | jabbzy | could someone take a look at the the following on the pastebin http://pastebin.ca/11807 - its an SIP invite (asterisk as the client) that doesn't seem to register. Should I be "concerned" about the IP address in the "call-id" - its a local host. All other addresses are either sanitised or on the test system. |
| 17:51.53 | DevZer0 | what sort of a PCI card i need to plug in digital phones to asterix ? |
| 17:52.23 | shepherd | as in t1, e1, isdn? |
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| 17:52.42 | DevZer0 | T1 |
| 17:52.44 | RoyK | what digital phones_ |
| 17:52.45 | RoyK | ? |
| 17:52.50 | RoyK | isdn? |
| 17:53.04 | shepherd | single t1 or multiple t1s? |
| 17:53.07 | DevZer0 | see what we have is voice T1 comming in |
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| 17:53.15 | DevZer0 | and then goes to like 48 extensions |
| 17:53.28 | DevZer0 | what i dont understand is where i plug the extensions |
| 17:53.35 | kapejod | channelbanks |
| 17:53.39 | file | channel bank |
| 17:53.49 | DevZer0 | ah ok |
| 17:53.59 | shepherd | you can use a digium te110p or te405p or te410p |
| 17:54.07 | DevZer0 | ah cool thanks.. |
| 17:54.29 | RoyK | sangoma |
| 17:54.35 | shepherd | bah.. |
| 17:54.36 | file | kapejod: I know you... but where... ah, Junghanns |
| 17:54.44 | RoyK | devel: sangoma is better :) |
| 17:54.49 | shepherd | no it's not |
| 17:54.54 | shepherd | don't believe the hype :) |
| 17:55.09 | file | you're just another Matt from Digium I bet |
| 17:55.12 | RoyK | it is |
| 17:55.24 | kapejod | file: yes, sir! ;) |
| 17:55.28 | RoyK | seriously... |
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| 17:57.30 | newmedian | kapejod: when will ISDNguard.pdf be available? |
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| 17:58.06 | newmedian | (minus the PDF) |
| 17:58.18 | kapejod | newmedian: it is available :) |
| 17:58.30 | newmedian | kapejod: but not listed on the main site? |
| 17:58.46 | kapejod | newmedian: that is because the new website is not online, yet ;) |
| 17:58.53 | kapejod | newmedian: too much BRI to stuff ;) |
| 17:59.44 | newmedian | kapejod: ah. By the way, does the QuadBRI now work in North America? |
| 18:00.25 | kapejod | newmedian: no. |
| 18:00.34 | kapejod | newmedian: it has a S/T interface anyway |
| 18:01.45 | newmedian | kapejod: Do you know roughly when the new website will be online? |
| 18:02.54 | kapejod | newmedian: somewhen during the next week |
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| 18:03.20 | newmedian | thanks |
| 18:04.31 | kapejod | newmedian: de rien. |
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| 18:09.16 | Blackvel | hi kapejod, how is work today? :) |
| 18:09.54 | kapejod | hi Blackvel, what is work? |
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| 18:10.25 | Blackvel | stress |
| 18:10.28 | Blackvel | damn java debugging |
| 18:10.36 | kapejod | java is for girls. |
| 18:10.48 | Blackvel | want to ask me for a date? |
| 18:10.56 | Blackvel | not java multi threading |
| 18:11.14 | kapejod | Blackvel: i dont like that type of girls. ;) |
| 18:11.39 | Blackvel | but yeah, I would kick me in my ass if I had to programm libpri q931 or whatever the name was :) |
| 18:12.11 | Blackvel | that was a really bad week months ago when I tried to port your bristuff to cvs head |
| 18:12.13 | Blackvel | :) |
| 18:12.18 | kapejod | sometimes people choose to do strange things |
| 18:12.25 | Blackvel | like you |
| 18:12.25 | Blackvel | hehe |
| 18:12.40 | kapejod | RC8d-CVS will be out tonight |
| 18:12.56 | Blackvel | I fear to tough my system |
| 18:13.07 | kapejod | girly girl ;P |
| 18:13.11 | Blackvel | rc7k runs that nice with 1.06 + fwd + gmx + nikotel :) |
| 18:13.17 | Blackvel | haha |
| 18:13.19 | Blackvel | maybe |
| 18:13.21 | Blackvel | too much girly |
| 18:13.23 | kapejod | our production * runs on cvs |
| 18:13.45 | Blackvel | I let others test first |
| 18:14.07 | Blackvel | noone can tell me what weird things I have to expect when I upgrade asterisk to cvs head |
| 18:14.15 | Blackvel | maybe nikotel doesn't work then anymore |
| 18:14.20 | Blackvel | or again problem with internals ip |
| 18:14.26 | kapejod | you will never find out ;) |
| 18:14.42 | Blackvel | I am really old school |
| 18:14.51 | Blackvel | when I use new software I want to know of the benefits |
| 18:16.34 | Blackvel | kapejod: oh well, its more than 6 month ago that iaxtel worked for me for inbound calls :) |
| 18:16.38 | Blackvel | never found out way |
| 18:16.39 | Blackvel | hehe |
| 18:17.01 | Blackvel | if I may ask what voip provider have you connected to your company pbx? |
| 18:17.11 | Blackvel | do you have connected |
| 18:17.35 | kapejod | none |
| 18:18.06 | kapejod | i recently got an isdn voice flatrate :) |
| 18:18.18 | kapejod | i dont believe in that voip stuff ;-P |
| 18:18.57 | Blackvel | but only germany |
| 18:19.00 | Blackvel | ? |
| 18:19.11 | Blackvel | haha |
| 18:19.15 | Blackvel | don't say that too loud |
| 18:20.06 | kapejod | yes, .de only |
| 18:20.11 | Blackvel | arcor? :) |
| 18:20.24 | kapejod | alice |
| 18:20.26 | Blackvel | are you sure that they don't use voip? |
| 18:20.27 | Blackvel | :) |
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| 18:20.36 | Zeeek | voip is poo |
| 18:20.41 | Zeeek | and it never works |
| 18:20.44 | Blackvel | right |
| 18:20.46 | kapejod | yep |
| 18:20.52 | kapejod | just marketing blabla |
| 18:21.00 | Zeeek | the bubble is about to burst |
| 18:21.09 | Blackvel | maybe works for direct * to * |
| 18:21.12 | Zeeek | I sold all my cisco stock yesterday |
| 18:21.15 | Blackvel | but not with providers in bewteen |
| 18:21.32 | Blackvel | see broadvoice |
| 18:21.38 | brad[] | Nortel PBX. Anyone familiar? |
| 18:21.40 | Blackvel | so many ppl complain that many times about it |
| 18:21.42 | Blackvel | :) |
| 18:21.52 | Zeeek | actually my wife just called thru our NuFone DID a few moments ago and it was perfect |
| 18:22.11 | kapejod | it's just that so many people doing voip lack so much knowledge :) |
| 18:22.16 | Zeeek | we haven't talked this much since I was "courting" |
| 18:22.22 | Blackvel | Zeeek: what did do you own? uk? us? how much money? |
| 18:22.30 | Zeeek | cisco US |
| 18:22.43 | Zeeek | I can't discuss it here, it's against US trade regs |
| 18:22.51 | Zeeek | might start a rush ya see |
| 18:23.01 | Zeeek | people have gone to jail for that |
| 18:23.11 | Blackvel | for talking about nufone? |
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| 18:23.13 | Zeeek | no cisco |
| 18:23.21 | kapejod | lol |
| 18:23.39 | Zeeek | talking about nufone is more dangerous |
| 18:23.54 | kapejod | you get shot straight away, no jail involved ;) |
| 18:24.01 | gambolputty | can a context have a dash character in it? |
| 18:24.11 | Zeeek | first you get ignored. Then yiu get shot :) |
| 18:24.14 | jmcorgan | need help with ENUM and NAT when lookup return SIP technology |
| 18:24.20 | Zeeek | gambolputty yes |
| 18:24.23 | jmcorgan | i have * behind linksys |
| 18:24.34 | jmcorgan | SIP works with broadvoice in and out, so set up is okay in sip.conf |
| 18:24.34 | kapejod | jmcorgan: install * on linksys |
| 18:24.47 | jmcorgan | using nat=yes and externip=... |
| 18:24.56 | Zeeek | ports forwarded? |
| 18:25.02 | jmcorgan | yes |
| 18:25.19 | jmcorgan | but when using ENUM and it returns SIP, * doesn't use NAT, so one-way audio |
| 18:25.33 | jmcorgan | how do I force it to use nat for all SIP? |
| 18:25.57 | jmcorgan | putting nat=yes in the [general] section of sip.conf doesn't seem to work |
| 18:26.10 | Zeeek | mine is behind linksys but I never saw that problem |
| 18:26.20 | jmcorgan | 1.0.7 |
| 18:26.25 | ManxPower | jmcorgan: sip show peer <peername> will show you the nat setting for that. |
| 18:26.27 | Zeeek | 1.0.6 |
| 18:26.45 | ManxPower | remember that if you Dial(SIP/blah@hostorip) it won't use the peer section of sip.conf |
| 18:26.49 | PTG123 | nat=yes |
| 18:26.53 | PTG123 | will force it always to use nat |
| 18:26.56 | PTG123 | and canreinvite=no |
| 18:27.04 | Zeeek | yes I always forget that |
| 18:27.06 | jmcorgan | PTG123: where do those go? |
| 18:27.26 | jmcorgan | PTG123: I use those settings already in a peer section for broadvoice, it works for broadvoice calls in and out |
| 18:27.54 | jmcorgan | PTG123: but for ENUM calls, where the dial string is like how manxpower just said, i guess it doesn't look at sip.conf general section |
| 18:27.55 | PTG123 | in sip.conf |
| 18:28.14 | PTG123 | you have something wrong if its not looking at sip.conf |
| 18:28.15 | PTG123 | well wait |
| 18:28.18 | PTG123 | is your box behind a firewall? |
| 18:28.24 | jmcorgan | ptg123: yes, it is |
| 18:28.37 | PTG123 | and how is your box connecting to the provider? |
| 18:28.42 | PTG123 | and your sip device is INSIDE the firewall? |
| 18:28.47 | jmcorgan | ptg123: and * is working fine with SIP and NAT inbound and outbound on broadvoice, so I know it's all working that way |
| 18:28.57 | jmcorgan | it's only ENUM based calls over SIP that don't work |
| 18:29.08 | ManxPower | jmcorgan: file a bug report. |
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| 18:29.26 | jmcorgan | manxpower: was hoping *I* was the bug :-) |
| 18:29.49 | PTG123 | answer my last question |
| 18:30.15 | jmcorgan | PTG123: the * box is making an ENUM lookup, which returns a SIP technology string that is used in the dial command |
| 18:30.46 | PTG123 | the sip device is where |
| 18:30.59 | jmcorgan | PTG123: the SIP device is Asterisk |
| 18:31.04 | Zeeek | other end |
| 18:31.05 | PTG123 | is it SIP->*->FIREWALL->OUTSIDEWORLD |
| 18:31.12 | jmcorgan | PTG123: yes |
| 18:31.29 | PTG123 | where does the enum record get returned from |
| 18:31.33 | Zeeek | what is the resulting string of the ENUM lookup? |
| 18:31.36 | PTG123 | the quick answer is it may not be possible to make it work |
| 18:31.43 | PTG123 | the enum lookup might be returning an external ip |
| 18:31.46 | PTG123 | so the asterisk uses it |
| 18:31.51 | PTG123 | but its own ip is the external ip it returns |
| 18:31.57 | PTG123 | and firewalls don't like to route back in |
| 18:31.58 | PTG123 | don't ask me why |
| 18:32.03 | jmcorgan | i've captured SIP packets |
| 18:32.07 | PTG123 | anyone in here do alot of international calling? |
| 18:32.28 | Zeeek | to the US, yes |
| 18:32.34 | jmcorgan | the returned enum lookup is SIP/xxxx@domain.com |
| 18:32.48 | Zeeek | what happens if you dial it without using ENUM? |
| 18:33.17 | Zeeek | it isn't in your own domain is it? |
| 18:33.46 | jmcorgan | captured SIP packets show the INVITE goes out, the TRYING comes back, a PROGRESS comes back (with SDP info), then * sends a stream of RTP packets out to the remote RTP port |
| 18:34.11 | jmcorgan | but the INVITE * sends out has my internal IP in it in the SDP header |
| 18:34.20 | jmcorgan | so the return packets never arrive |
| 18:34.37 | PTG123 | well asterisk shouldn't do that if its set up properly |
| 18:34.39 | PTG123 | well first of all |
| 18:34.49 | PTG123 | is the default in sip.conf set to canreinvite=no and nat=yes |
| 18:34.49 | PTG123 | ? |
| 18:34.53 | PTG123 | for all things |
| 18:34.55 | PTG123 | in the top of the file |
| 18:35.11 | jmcorgan | PTG123: nat=yes and externip=.... but not canreinvite |
| 18:35.20 | PTG123 | what the hell put it as well |
| 18:35.21 | PTG123 | brb |
| 18:35.23 | jmcorgan | PTG123: I guess I can try adding canreinvite=no |
| 18:35.32 | jmcorgan | standby while I do that |
| 18:36.01 | Zeeek | we're all standing by :) |
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| 18:38.41 | file | you need externip AND localnet |
| 18:38.44 | Zeeek | ManxPower on the off chance that you enjoy vegetarian cuisine... |
| 18:39.55 | Zeeek | file: is that because * look at the header and if it is the same as localnet say "oh-oh, I screwed up!" |
| 18:40.52 | jmcorgan | ok, even with 'canreinvite=no', 'externip=(my external ip)', and 'nat=yes' in the [general] section of sip.conf, * sends a INVITE out that has, in the SDP portion of the packet, 'c=IN IP4 192.168.1.2', which is obviously an internal IP address, hence audio from the remote end never arrives |
| 18:41.08 | file | Zeeek: well it tells asterisk when to use the internal IP in headers, and when to use the external IP |
| 18:41.14 | file | jmcorgan: you need localnet |
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| 18:42.01 | shmaltz | I'm getting unresolved symboles when running make install for zaptel, but not when modprobing it |
| 18:42.04 | jmcorgan | file: as in localnet=192.168.1.0/24? |
| 18:42.05 | blitzrage | like file said, you need localnet to tell Asterisk what networks are local |
| 18:42.09 | shmaltz | whould I worry about this? |
| 18:42.13 | file | there's an example in sip.conf |
| 18:42.18 | jmcorgan | file: I'll check the actual syntax on the wiki |
| 18:42.27 | kapejod | shmaltz: not with a 2.6 kernel |
| 18:42.28 | jmcorgan | file: and let you know in a couple minutes if that fixed it |
| 18:42.39 | shmaltz | well, I'm runnign 2.4.29 |
| 18:42.47 | file | jmcorgan: ie, localnet=192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 |
| 18:42.48 | blitzrage | jmcorgan: either /24 or /255.255.255.0 I believe are valid.... but not positive - check sip.conf.sample, not the wiki |
| 18:43.24 | jmcorgan | file: but odd that localnet isn't needed in the peer section for broadvoice when using sip and nat |
| 18:43.33 | jmcorgan | blitzrage: thanks, will do |
| 18:43.39 | file | they might have NAT stuff enabled |
| 18:43.53 | blitzrage | probably do since nat=yes doesn't hurt anything if you're not behind NAT |
| 18:43.55 | file | and localnet and externip aren't valid in peer entries |
| 18:43.59 | Zeeek | or it may not work tomorrow |
| 18:44.08 | jmcorgan | zeeek: ouch |
| 18:44.25 | jmcorgan | ok, standby |
| 18:44.41 | blitzrage | aiiight, I'm out. Gone to play beach volleyball |
| 18:44.42 | Zeeek | as to the |
| 18:44.57 | file | blitzrage: Wearing a shirt? or just swimming trunks? eh? EH? |
| 18:45.16 | Zeeek | netmask question, they should both work but no one has ever written that down authoratatively AFAIK |
| 18:45.34 | Zeeek | heard a good one last night |
| 18:45.38 | blitzrage | file: its cold here, I'm wearing clothes :) |
| 18:45.38 | Zeeek | Boxing is gay |
| 18:45.42 | file | blitzrage: Gah |
| 18:45.43 | jmcorgan | file: you are now my official * guru |
| 18:45.52 | file | jmcorgan: HA |
| 18:45.56 | Zeeek | two men in silk shorts fighting over a belt |
| 18:46.08 | blitzrage | jmcorgan: too late, I already claimed file, lol |
| 18:46.16 | blitzrage | Zeeek: lol |
| 18:46.23 | jmcorgan | in otherwords, localnet fixed the problem |
| 18:46.30 | Zeeek | it was a gay comedian btw, I would never dare |
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| 18:46.42 | blitzrage | aiiight, peas y'all! |
| 18:46.46 | file | bye bye Leif |
| 18:46.50 | Zeeek | bye blitz |
| 18:47.20 | shepherd | heh.. awesome.. asterisk is eating up 85% cpu in idle |
| 18:47.49 | jmcorgan | ok, so now i have ENUM working, if the lookup fails, it falls back to broadvoice |
| 18:48.11 | jmcorgan | cool. thanks everyone |
| 18:48.13 | file | yw |
| 18:48.25 | file | now, come to Cluecon and buy me supper or something! |
| 18:48.35 | shepherd | 9624 asterisk 84.3% 10:17:46 11 46 408 2.54M 4.65M 3.09M 38.4M |
| 18:48.37 | shepherd | :) |
| 18:48.43 | Zeeek | <watch out for the something part> |
| 18:49.51 | jmcorgan | file: ever heard of 'Scores'? |
| 18:49.58 | file | no |
| 18:50.04 | jmcorgan | file: down in Naperville or somewhere close by? |
| 18:50.25 | jmcorgan | oh, it's "Gentleman's Club" |
| 18:50.35 | file | evil |
| 18:50.37 | jmcorgan | not too far from where Cluecon will be |
| 18:53.01 | Zeeek | the FBI is monitoring this channel |
| 18:53.20 | docelmo | Female Body Inspectors? |
| 18:53.30 | jmcorgan | well, that would have been in the "or something" category |
| 18:55.30 | jmcorgan | anyway, thanks for the (free) help, irc still beats google :-) |
| 18:55.35 | m0f0x | Can someone show me a sample of sip.conf, with some users on it? My users can't identify themselves on Asterisk |
| 18:56.36 | file | I meant or something as in food for another time :P |
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| 19:03.33 | shmaltz | I'm getting unresolved symboles when running make install for zaptel, but not when modprobing it |
| 19:03.34 | shmaltz | should I worry about this? |
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| 19:07.29 | Blackvel | and kapejod is complaining about OO and Java? hahaha |
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| 19:19.48 | shmaltz | it's just a plain sunday, let be rest |
| 19:22.54 | newmedian | Anyone seen Unleashed? pass/fail? |
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| 19:31.33 | W1thdraw | anyone know if there is somekind of demo that asterisk can go thru, i need it for a presentation |
| 19:31.54 | Zeeek | there are little features you can demo like the directory |
| 19:32.24 | Zeeek | the echo test is a flop as demo except for hardcore geeks |
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| 19:32.45 | Zeeek | voicemail retrieval is demoable |
| 19:32.48 | W1thdraw | yeah its for a high school project |
| 19:32.58 | W1thdraw | im just trying to figure out what im gonna show them |
| 19:33.09 | Zeeek | if you're willing to write twenty lines of extensions you can do amazing stuff |
| 19:33.19 | newmedian | have an app ask them to guess a number, or a bigger-than-a-breadbox thing. |
| 19:33.23 | newmedian | Or hook up an eliza to it. |
| 19:33.30 | Zeeek | like an annoying bank IVR menu |
| 19:33.47 | Zeeek | find the agrressive wakeup application |
| 19:33.54 | W1thdraw | anyone know where i can find a few interesting ext files? |
| 19:34.11 | *** join/#asterisk vpp (~noone@host-83-146-50-131.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 19:34.14 | Zeeek | it rings you at a programmable time and then asks you for the answer to a numerci question |
| 19:34.19 | vpp | hey |
| 19:34.27 | vpp | can u get all extensions to ring in asterisk? |
| 19:34.35 | Zeeek | take a look at http://asteriskdocs.org |
| 19:34.45 | Zeeek | there is a movie theater demo in it |
| 19:34.56 | Zeeek | vpp how many are there? |
| 19:35.00 | vpp | 2 |
| 19:35.05 | vpp | for now |
| 19:35.13 | Zeeek | the dial app syntax is available |
| 19:35.22 | Zeeek | show application dial |
| 19:35.45 | W1thdraw | i dont even know what that is |
| 19:35.46 | Zeeek | $EVERYONE = $phone1&$phone2 |
| 19:36.01 | Zeeek | that was for vpp |
| 19:36.23 | Zeeek | dial(${EVERYONE},20) |
| 19:36.39 | Zeeek | $EVERYONE = $phone1&$phone2 <- mising proper syntax, look it up |
| 19:36.49 | Zeeek | the key is the & |
| 19:36.53 | vpp | cool |
| 19:37.26 | Zeeek | Dial(SIP/2000&IAX/yermutha,25,T) |
| 19:37.43 | Zeeek | Dial(SIP/2000&IAX/yermutha,25,T) <-mistake here too, look it up |
| 19:38.09 | Zeeek | W1thdraw look at the site and find the downloadable PDF there are several examples in it |
| 19:38.30 | W1thdraw | ok |
| 19:38.40 | W1thdraw | this site http://asteriskdocs.org? |
| 19:38.40 | Zeeek | I received my first tsunami nigerian spam yesterday |
| 19:38.53 | Zeeek | take a look at http://asteriskdocs.org <- yes this site |
| 19:38.56 | W1thdraw | kewl thanks |
| 19:40.46 | Zeeek | W1thdraw you lmight check here too: http://www.voipnewbie.com/forum/ |
| 19:40.50 | Zeeek | some fragments |
| 19:41.11 | Zeeek | I've heard of a few interesting apps (in case you need stuff to say?) |
| 19:41.34 | Zeeek | like a call in amazon order system when they dial a book number and asterisk looks it up and says the title |
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| 19:43.14 | W1thdraw | nice that would be kewl |
| 19:43.25 | W1thdraw | but the school wont let me connect anything to the network |
| 19:43.42 | W1thdraw | because of a past incident |
| 19:44.13 | W1thdraw | they would let me use a computer in my project so i setup asterisk on my xbox |
| 19:44.35 | file | Quicktime makes me sad |
| 19:44.44 | newmedian | educational institutions make me sad |
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| 19:49.08 | SuPrSluG | just checked out teliax. weird!! from what i've gleaned, they charge a $.02 connect fee for BOTH inbound/outbound calls AND $.02/min thereafter for BOTH incoming AND outgoing calls. |
| 19:49.45 | SuPrSluG | devil's always in the details |
| 19:50.31 | SuPrSluG | oh plus $4.95/mo DID |
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| 19:58.50 | newmedian | Assuming you weren't trying to "maximize your profit," i.e. make somewhere between cost and cost+30%, does providing DID & Termination at a flat fee (no per-minute charges) work out? Or are you basically forced to play the per-minute game if you want to be profitable. |
| 19:59.25 | Qwell | if you can get minutes cheap enough, sure |
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| 19:59.33 | Qwell | there is no such thing as an "unlimited" plan though |
| 19:59.56 | newmedian | Qwell: I mean, opening up a business as a provider of DID & Termination for one or more area codes. |
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| 20:00.29 | Qwell | What I said still applies |
| 20:00.31 | newmedian | Not farming out the actual conversion to a third-party. |
| 20:00.49 | rabelais | I'm looking to transfer my broadvoice number over to a different provider because broadvoice's downtime is simply unacceptable, I'm just plain fed up...but I'm concerned about this number transfer issue, is the number truly now with my new service provider (say for ex, telasip), or is it still with broadvoice, just being forwarded over to telasip, and thus might still be subject to the same horrible outages that plagued m |
| 20:00.49 | rabelais | y broadvoice service...by doing a number transfer, am I truly free of broadvoice, or am I still somehow still tied to their systems? |
| 20:01.17 | Qwell | I don't think you can transfer the number from broadvoice |
| 20:01.44 | rabelais | Qwell, why not? |
| 20:01.54 | newmedian | Qwell: other than for burstable bandwidth issues, aren't the PRIs at fixed known cost? And DIDs scale per usage as a pass-along expense. So is it just the bandwidth you are referring to? or? |
| 20:01.59 | Qwell | because you don't own the number, like you would with say Verizon |
| 20:02.05 | PTG123 | fyah you can |
| 20:02.06 | Qwell | Broadvoice still owns the number |
| 20:02.09 | PTG123 | you just have to show the bill |
| 20:02.13 | PTG123 | doesn't matter :) |
| 20:02.17 | PTG123 | you prove its yours with a bill |
| 20:02.27 | Qwell | oh? |
| 20:02.35 | rabelais | Qwell: but I can transfer numbers _to_ broadvoice, what happens then? they steal the number away? |
| 20:02.37 | PTG123 | if you own it, it just makes it easier |
| 20:02.39 | rabelais | that doesn't make senes |
| 20:03.09 | rabelais | whatever...this is a technicality, that's not what I'm concerned about |
| 20:03.40 | rabelais | I'm worried about what happens if broadvoice's service goes down (like it does all the time) will that cause problems with my transferred number? |
| 20:03.55 | Qwell | not if it gets transferred |
| 20:04.03 | Zeeek | I still say the end users should be able to buy numbers, like domain names |
| 20:04.06 | rabelais | basically, I'm asking, am I really free from broadvoice once a number is transferred over? |
| 20:04.28 | Blackvel | I think it would be better |
| 20:04.35 | Blackvel | to be able to buy numbers as dns names |
| 20:04.39 | Qwell | Then you'd have squatters |
| 20:04.47 | Qwell | somebody could easily buy an NPA |
| 20:04.51 | Blackvel | and to be free to forward them to any provider you want |
| 20:04.55 | rabelais | Blackvel: all you're promoting now is enum ;) |
| 20:05.21 | Blackvel | this "port of one number to an provider which you will change because of quality problems in 1 month" is kinda useless |
| 20:05.28 | Zeeek | Qwell well domain squatting has settled down quite a bit |
| 20:05.30 | Blackvel | oh am I? I was not aware of :) |
| 20:05.40 | Qwell | Zeeek: not really... |
| 20:05.48 | rabelais | Blackvel: in one month? |
| 20:05.53 | Blackvel | ok |
| 20:05.53 | Zeeek | oh yes, considerably - but it's still a problem |
| 20:05.54 | Blackvel | 2 weeks |
| 20:05.55 | Blackvel | :) |
| 20:06.02 | Trakk | Guys.. I'm having a problem with a new Asterisk@Home install. I have created 2 extensions. I can not make either of them ring. It keeps going directly to voicemail. |
| 20:06.03 | rabelais | Blackvel: I've been fed up biwh their service for 9 months |
| 20:06.18 | Blackvel | why do you stay? |
| 20:06.21 | Zeeek | where is that @home forum again? |
| 20:06.36 | Trakk | Forum would be nice. |
| 20:06.36 | Blackvel | because of your ported did? |
| 20:06.40 | rabelais | Blackvel: hence, I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt |
| 20:06.42 | Zeeek | there is one |
| 20:06.46 | rabelais | anymore |
| 20:06.51 | Zeeek | look at the sourceforge page I think |
| 20:07.31 | rabelais | Blackvel: not sure, I'm probably going to go to telasip, though I was debating sixtel as well |
| 20:07.47 | Blackvel | ah |
| 20:07.55 | Qwell | sixtel sounds more like an ipv6 tunnel broker |
| 20:07.56 | Blackvel | are that US providers? |
| 20:07.57 | Trakk | I'm so overwhelmed with the new concepts, and my wife is driving me batty |
| 20:08.05 | Zeeek | and well she should! |
| 20:08.19 | Blackvel | Trakk: about what concepts? |
| 20:08.19 | rabelais | yes, us providers |
| 20:09.20 | rabelais | so does anyone know what happens at the routing level if I do a number transfer? will a dialed call go to broadvoice's pbx/routers and _then_ be transferred over to the transferred provider, or will it go straight to my new provider, never seeing broadvoice's system ever |
| 20:10.34 | Trakk | DID / CDR / DialPlan / Scripting |
| 20:10.56 | Trakk | I'm looking for something that will give me a basis for understanding it. |
| 20:11.06 | Qwell | ~docs |
| 20:11.07 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 20:11.36 | rabelais | Trakk: just run through the wiki, that's gonna be the most valuable source for you |
| 20:12.20 | Trakk | thanks |
| 20:12.44 | Zeeek | Trakk |
| 20:12.45 | Zeeek | Starter tutorial: |
| 20:12.46 | Zeeek | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html |
| 20:12.46 | Zeeek | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html |
| 20:12.46 | Zeeek | http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm |
| 20:12.46 | Zeeek | THE reference of the moment: |
| 20:12.46 | Zeeek | http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 20:13.02 | Zeeek | then look at the wiki especially about dialplan |
| 20:13.16 | Trakk | Yea.. I'm looking for references like what the O'Riely books did for Perl and documentation |
| 20:13.24 | Trakk | O'Reily |
| 20:13.26 | Zeeek | Look at asteriskdocs above |
| 20:13.32 | Trakk | I'm on it. |
| 20:13.35 | Trakk | thanks |
| 20:13.38 | Zeeek | there is a PDF you can print and read on the train |
| 20:13.52 | Zeeek | (or behind the wheel if you are on the freeway in L.A.) |
| 20:14.33 | Trakk | I have a 70mile commute (each way) to work. |
| 20:14.38 | Trakk | mostly highway |
| 20:15.05 | Zeeek | ok, get a TTS program and read it onto a cassette! |
| 20:15.14 | Zeeek | god that would sheisse to listen to :) |
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| 20:16.36 | Zeeek | Trakk here are some great wiki pages about the heart of asterisk, the dialplan: |
| 20:16.39 | Zeeek | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Dialplan+Introduction |
| 20:16.39 | Zeeek | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+extensions.conf |
| 20:16.39 | Zeeek | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Extension+Matching |
| 20:16.39 | Zeeek | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+extensions.conf+sorting |
| 20:17.02 | Zeeek | The wiki has a huge amount of stuff but it is awkward to work with at first |
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| 20:20.14 | shmaltz | Zeeek, the http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-asterisk+extension+matching one is wrong |
| 20:20.24 | Trakk | ok |
| 20:20.36 | Zeeek | you mean it has wrong stuff or a bad link |
| 20:20.55 | shmaltz | nope |
| 20:21.05 | shmaltz | it says only 2 situations it will do match as you go |
| 20:21.13 | shmaltz | disa will also do match as you go |
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| 20:21.22 | rvhi | any use cdr_mysql? |
| 20:21.29 | shmaltz | rvhi, yep |
| 20:21.46 | Zeeek | wrong by omission - still the wiki (as I warned) is quirky and hard to use at first but has a lot of great info |
| 20:21.47 | rvhi | i load the module and modify the config file |
| 20:21.52 | rvhi | but can't make it work |
| 20:22.11 | Zeeek | shmaltz you should correct the wiki if you're sure of what you're saying |
| 20:22.21 | rvhi | any suggestion on where to start troubleshoot? |
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| 20:22.33 | shmaltz | Zeeek, I will when I have a chance |
| 20:22.36 | Trakk | The dialplan on this @home install is insane |
| 20:22.38 | shmaltz | too busy at the moment |
| 20:22.45 | shmaltz | I always do |
| 20:22.53 | shmaltz | Trakk, really? |
| 20:22.55 | Zeeek | please don't talk about @hole here |
| 20:22.56 | Trakk | which is one of the reasons I'm overwhelmed |
| 20:22.59 | shmaltz | so why did you intall it? |
| 20:23.07 | Zeeek | forget that stuff and just install asterisk |
| 20:23.07 | Trakk | they use an AGI |
| 20:23.14 | Trakk | I didn't know it did.. |
| 20:23.19 | shmaltz | it's the most stupidest thing I have seen (A@H) |
| 20:23.26 | Zeeek | your wife is trying to tell you : learn asterisk! |
| 20:23.34 | shmaltz | :) |
| 20:23.45 | Zeeek | and there is an @hole forum |
| 20:23.47 | Trakk | I wanted to start with something simple with a web UI |
| 20:23.51 | Trakk | so I could experiment.. |
| 20:23.54 | Zeeek | bad mistake! |
| 20:24.03 | Trakk | then go back. |
| 20:24.05 | Zeeek | like learning sex by masturbating |
| 20:24.08 | Trakk | to bare-bones |
| 20:24.12 | Zeeek | copyright zeeek 2005 |
| 20:24.26 | Trakk | I claim prior art |
| 20:25.25 | Trakk | hehe.. |
| 20:25.32 | Trakk | At least I knew what I liked! |
| 20:25.36 | Trakk | ha! |
| 20:25.36 | Zeeek | hah |
| 20:25.40 | newmedian | sticky digiums |
| 20:25.52 | Zeeek | set the sticky bit |
| 20:25.53 | Trakk | Ok. I'll wipe the system, and install new. |
| 20:26.02 | Trakk | so.. debian? |
| 20:26.26 | Zeeek | you guys remember the opost to the video card forum about the guy whose "friend got sperm on his CPU"? |
| 20:27.05 | Zeeek | that was the funniest thread in the history of the internet |
| 20:28.40 | newmedian | So, informally, is Debian the preferred base rather than something like CentOS? |
| 20:29.31 | Blackvel | zeeek: that was the funniest statement which I have ever read about :) |
| 20:29.48 | Zeeek | I can't find that post but it's hilarious |
| 20:30.11 | Blackvel | nah your action thing above comparing asterisk vi and sex :) |
| 20:30.13 | Zeeek | "so my friend was upgrading his system and..." |
| 20:31.11 | shmaltz | Zeeek, here is the new version: |
| 20:31.13 | shmaltz | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Extension+Matching |
| 20:31.21 | Zeeek | yes, I'm proud of that. Especially since I wouldn't know a protocol if it came up and bit me but I somehow knew it wouldn't get better if I wimped out with a GUI when setting up asterisk ;) |
| 20:31.47 | Zeeek | shmaltz, thanks for fixing that, we all owe to the "communiy" to fix these horros |
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| 20:33.03 | shmaltz | np |
| 20:33.08 | shmaltz | ~ google friend got sperm on his CPU |
| 20:33.24 | shmaltz | ~google friend got sperm on his CPU |
| 20:33.24 | file | he must have really like his CPU |
| 20:34.16 | Zeeek | nope |
| 20:34.52 | newmedian | You're on a Quest for Sperm |
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| 20:36.27 | Zeeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.30 | Zeeek | ok guys here it is enjoy! |
| 20:37.32 | Zeeek | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43298&page=1&pp=15 |
| 20:37.48 | Zeeek | resumé: |
| 20:37.50 | Zeeek | Lets say a "friend" of mine was "pleasuring himself" in the middle of working on upgrading his PC, with the card on the table, he made a "mess" of the card. |
| 20:38.24 | Zeeek | "Hmm I take it you have a thing for hardware parts? Anyway you can just RMA it I'll doubt they'll check for semen." |
| 20:38.39 | *** join/#asterisk dwmw2_gone (dwmw2@baythorne.infradead.org) |
| 20:38.50 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (~brian@brc.base.supporter.pdpc) |
| 20:40.45 | Zeeek | 2- pages of posts |
| 20:40.47 | Zeeek | 26 |
| 20:44.57 | shmaltz | Zeeek, that is great |
| 20:45.01 | shmaltz | A+ |
| 20:45.15 | shmaltz | I don't think it was the sperm that damaged it though |
| 20:45.34 | shmaltz | b/c sperm is an insulator, and not a conductor ;) |
| 20:45.39 | shido6 | what the fug? |
| 20:45.46 | shido6 | look |
| 20:45.49 | shmaltz | shido6, hi |
| 20:45.50 | shido6 | keep your porn away from the dells |
| 20:45.56 | Zeeek | someone said that but saltwater IS a conductor |
| 20:46.00 | Zeeek | "Wow I tried applying this to my 6800 GT and I have had no more freezes! Woohoo! I suggest everyone should try this as it seems to work wonderfully and increases your benchmark scores ,it also gives you pleasure and satisfaction" |
| 20:46.20 | bkw__ | what? |
| 20:46.22 | shmaltz | Zeeek, well I didn't see this |
| 20:46.31 | Zeeek | hard to read all 28 pages! |
| 20:46.35 | shmaltz | however it is a contuctor for human life ;/ |
| 20:47.02 | Zeeek | Ok I have a sad update. |
| 20:47.02 | Zeeek | Earlier I applied the semen to my card and thought I had struck gold because my freezing problems stopped and my speeds increased. Well my problems are back big time. I called an Nvidia doctor and they informed me that my card is now more than likely pregnant. He said my card will start craving exotic voltages and will get bloated and slow way down. He suggested I dump the card before it starts costing me mega bucks and just get with another |
| 20:47.24 | bkw__ | hahahaha |
| 20:47.32 | Zeeek | I'm tellin' ya, 28 pages |
| 20:47.47 | shmaltz | #10 is not bad |
| 20:47.54 | Zeeek | this thread was linked to in every hardware forum in 2003 apparently |
| 20:48.37 | shmaltz | bkw_ can I have a talk with you |
| 20:48.39 | shmaltz | ? |
| 20:51.27 | Zeeek | " So he misread the instructions and thought it said "spermal compound" instead of "thermal". Probably a cummon mistake" |
| 20:52.20 | bkw__ | shmaltz, take it here |
| 20:54.07 | bkw__ | Zeeek, dude please... |
| 20:57.19 | Zeeek | "SPI Support (Scalable Penis Insert)" |
| 20:58.17 | shmaltz | Zeeek, enough take it to #p0rn |
| 20:58.20 | Zeeek | That has to be the best thing a few teenage amles have ever done in the history of the world |
| 20:58.29 | Zeeek | yeah that's it |
| 20:58.44 | bkw__ | Zeeek, if you wanna keep that up you must email me pictures of yourself nude |
| 20:58.50 | Zeeek | join ãsterisk-politiks |
| 20:58.56 | shmaltz | hehe |
| 20:58.58 | bkw__ | with the words "BKW RULES" on your body somewhere. |
| 20:59.05 | shmaltz | lol |
| 20:59.22 | bkw__ | gotta have proof.... :P |
| 20:59.23 | Zeeek | bkw_ that's what they kept asking for on that forum they wanted me^H^H my friend to show proof |
| 20:59.39 | bkw__ | hhaha |
| 20:59.50 | file | bkw__: guess what I have... |
| 20:59.53 | file | BLUEBERRY MUFFINS! |
| 20:59.54 | bkw__ | iso? |
| 20:59.58 | Zeeek | I already have BKW RULES *shaved* on my ample chest hair rug, and I'm straight! |
| 21:00.04 | bkw__ | hahaha |
| 21:00.09 | bkw__ | take pictures.. I gotta see this |
| 21:00.17 | Zeeek | I'll do anything for the asterisk community |
| 21:00.18 | file | bkw__: I have to rewire my room to get that box back online, I've run out of power Captain |
| 21:00.39 | file | makes me sad |
| 21:00.41 | bkw__ | haha |
| 21:00.44 | shmaltz | gtg guys |
| 21:00.45 | Blackvel | file: how that |
| 21:00.47 | shmaltz | c ya later |
| 21:01.01 | Blackvel | are you missing a power socket? |
| 21:01.03 | Zeeek | shmaltz is better than butter |
| 21:01.22 | file | not enough power plugs |
| 21:01.48 | rabelais | can I reload just the iax config? |
| 21:01.53 | rabelais | sorta like how I do sip reload |
| 21:01.57 | file | reload chan_iax2.so |
| 21:02.07 | rabelais | ah, ok...thank you |
| 21:02.36 | Blackvel | file: what box is it? |
| 21:03.07 | file | Blackvel: the 64-bit box I have |
| 21:03.19 | file | lemme get it back up and running and make an ISO |
| 21:03.21 | file | and see if she works |
| 21:05.10 | *** join/#asterisk Corydon76-home (beige@pcp08665860pcs.500ash01.tn.comcast.net) |
| 21:05.15 | Blackvel | ah |
| 21:05.21 | Blackvel | what are you doing with it? |
| 21:05.32 | Blackvel | voip? |
| 21:05.35 | file | stuff... |
| 21:06.31 | file | bkw__: oh right, I couldn't get a kernel made |
| 21:06.46 | Blackvel | how many boxes do you have in your room? :) |
| 21:06.50 | file | it hated the modules_install |
| 21:06.54 | file | Blackvel: Right now? |
| 21:07.11 | file | I've got a Mac, my regular server, my 64-bit workstation, my laptop, and a server being prepped to go to colo |
| 21:07.14 | Blackvel | haha..will that change even? |
| 21:07.29 | Blackvel | wow |
| 21:07.41 | Blackvel | most ppl nowadays have their own server |
| 21:07.45 | Blackvel | weird |
| 21:07.45 | Blackvel | :) |
| 21:07.52 | Blackvel | colo? |
| 21:07.59 | file | yup |
| 21:08.05 | drumkilla | dang file, you've got me beat by one |
| 21:08.09 | drumkilla | we'd be even if my xbox didn' |
| 21:08.12 | drumkilla | t die :( |
| 21:08.14 | *** join/#asterisk newmedian (~crowlther@Quebec-HSE-ppp230300.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 21:08.14 | Blackvel | whats colo? |
| 21:08.18 | file | colocation |
| 21:08.21 | Zeeek | coloscopy |
| 21:08.24 | Blackvel | <- stupid |
| 21:08.32 | Zeeek | makes you feel high for an hour |
| 21:08.36 | drumkilla | where someone else takes care of your stuff |
| 21:08.42 | drumkilla | feeds it ... takes it on walks |
| 21:09.06 | shepherd | hey russell :) |
| 21:09.14 | drumkilla | hey shepherd |
| 21:09.19 | drumkilla | what's up? |
| 21:09.37 | file | Russell Wussell is so cute |
| 21:09.37 | shmaltz | Zeeek, how do you know about it: |
| 21:09.39 | shmaltz | Zeeekshmaltz is better than butter |
| 21:09.42 | shepherd | trying to figure out why asterisk would be eating 85% cpu on idle |
| 21:09.54 | newmedian | mpg123? |
| 21:09.58 | file | pbx_spool? |
| 21:10.01 | shepherd | mpg123 not installed |
| 21:10.07 | shepherd | this is mac though |
| 21:10.12 | shepherd | macosx |
| 21:10.17 | file | shepherd: add noload => pbx_spool.so to modules.conf, restart asterisk, and see if it goes down |
| 21:10.18 | drumkilla | asterisk 0wz j00r b0x3n! |
| 21:11.08 | Zeeek | shmaltz I didn't mean... ummmm |
| 21:11.29 | Zeeek | I mean for cooking! |
| 21:11.29 | shmaltz | nope, not at all |
| 21:11.30 | shmaltz | :) |
| 21:11.30 | shmaltz | I"m laughing |
| 21:11.32 | Zeeek | I love when there's some burnt chicken stuff in it |
| 21:11.36 | shmaltz | I'm just asking how you know what shmaltz is? |
| 21:11.55 | Zeeek | ethinc cleansing failed in our neighborhood in 1941 |
| 21:12.02 | shmaltz | lol |
| 21:12.07 | shmaltz | where u from? |
| 21:12.12 | file | Zeeek: you smell like feet |
| 21:12.20 | W1thdraw | to reload the musiconhold.conf do i have to restart it or can i just "reload"? |
| 21:12.22 | Zeeek | I should take my shoes off |
| 21:12.31 | shmaltz | Zeeek, where you from? |
| 21:12.34 | Zeeek | I was born centuries ago in Minnesota |
| 21:12.40 | file | W1thdraw: restart |
| 21:12.55 | shmaltz | Zeeek, and you have got yiddish speaking ppl there? |
| 21:13.02 | Zeeek | now I live in Paris staying one page ahead of people who read English a little slower than I do |
| 21:13.15 | Zeeek | frankly I never learned it |
| 21:13.39 | W1thdraw | file, whats the easyest way to restart asterisk |
| 21:13.40 | Zeeek | in fact I bet more Peurto Ricans in NY speak yiddish than anyone in MN |
| 21:13.58 | Zeeek | restart now |
| 21:14.00 | file | W1thdraw: type restart now in the CLI? |
| 21:14.15 | W1thdraw | it says no such command |
| 21:14.26 | shmaltz | Zeeek, so where do you know what shmaltz means from? |
| 21:14.27 | Zeeek | or prss the little "where do you want to go today" logo ? |
| 21:14.38 | file | W1thdraw: you typed: restart now |
| 21:14.39 | file | right? |
| 21:14.42 | Zeeek | I have eaten shmaltz |
| 21:14.52 | W1thdraw | kewl thansk |
| 21:14.53 | Qwell | in asterisk, and not a console, or something stupid? |
| 21:14.59 | shmaltz | Zeeek, but u still didn't tell me where from |
| 21:15.14 | Zeeek | W1thdraw is working on a high scholl project, give im a break |
| 21:15.39 | Zeeek | shmaltz you hear iot all the time like chutpah, schmuck, goy |
| 21:15.43 | W1thdraw | yeah its a school for special kids |
| 21:15.53 | Zeeek | unless you live in the south ;) |
| 21:15.55 | shmaltz | ok, ok |
| 21:15.59 | Blackvel | or you can try asterisk -rx restart |
| 21:16.06 | shmaltz | so where do you live? zeeek |
| 21:16.10 | W1thdraw | thanks |
| 21:16.12 | Zeeek | Don't play it too hard, W1thdraw :) |
| 21:16.32 | shmaltz | W1thdraw, or asterisk -rx "restart now" |
| 21:16.37 | shepherd | hmm.. well.. that seems to sorta work' |
| 21:16.40 | Zeeek | W1thdraw you mean like you're 7 years old and going to college next year? |
| 21:16.40 | shepherd | but i don't know |
| 21:17.03 | W1thdraw | no... more i was hit in the head and im special, special |
| 21:17.22 | Zeeek | well you're hangin with guys in here! |
| 21:17.39 | Zeeek | *the*guys I meant |
| 21:18.32 | Qwell | many of us are also special, in our own little ways |
| 21:18.32 | Zeeek | oh, yes! |
| 21:18.32 | W1thdraw | lol |
| 21:18.32 | shmaltz | nice: |
| 21:18.32 | shmaltz | http://www.2600.com/covers/sp051.gif |
| 21:18.40 | W1thdraw | is there a new 2600 out? |
| 21:18.46 | shmaltz | yep |
| 21:18.51 | shmaltz | I like that cover |
| 21:18.52 | W1thdraw | kewl |
| 21:18.53 | hypa7ia | just got mine in the mail :-) |
| 21:19.00 | shmaltz | looks like they have new stuff on the mta |
| 21:19.07 | W1thdraw | there a b and n that sell it |
| 21:19.09 | hypa7ia | yup |
| 21:19.13 | W1thdraw | i think im the only one who buys it |
| 21:19.34 | shmaltz | hypa7ia, what are they saying about teh MTA? |
| 21:19.45 | hypa7ia | the cards have basically been decoded |
| 21:19.58 | hypa7ia | haven't gotten through that article yet tho |
| 21:19.58 | shmaltz | wow |
| 21:20.05 | W1thdraw | nice i got my onhold music to work |
| 21:20.09 | shmaltz | what about the hp? |
| 21:20.09 | W1thdraw | mr. roboto |
| 21:20.13 | shmaltz | printing ? |
| 21:20.17 | W1thdraw | what are some other good songs |
| 21:20.26 | shmaltz | over the net and messing up the printger thru telnet? |
| 21:20.37 | hypa7ia | hehe, yeah, it's good |
| 21:20.40 | shmaltz | sos |
| 21:20.45 | shmaltz | it's old |
| 21:20.47 | hypa7ia | looks like there's some sort of primitive java vm on them |
| 21:20.50 | shmaltz | sos = same old shit |
| 21:20.56 | shmaltz | there is |
| 21:20.59 | shmaltz | very old stuff |
| 21:21.00 | hypa7ia | yeah |
| 21:21.08 | hypa7ia | first i'd heard of it |
| 21:21.13 | shmaltz | I mean 2600 alone wrote about it more than I can remember |
| 21:21.49 | Zeeek | I went by an ATM a couple days ago that was a full screen Win2k logon |
| 21:22.01 | Qwell | Zeeek: not uncommon |
| 21:22.20 | Zeeek | why the fuck would they use Win for those and not something embedded? |
| 21:22.29 | Qwell | got me |
| 21:22.49 | Zeeek | some hacker should walk by and sign in |
| 21:22.55 | Qwell | no kb |
| 21:23.05 | Zeeek | numeric keypad |
| 21:23.10 | shmaltz | Zeeek, you can't just walk by and sign in |
| 21:23.15 | Zeeek | backdoor numeric username/pw |
| 21:23.17 | hypa7ia | they are using /embedded/ windows |
| 21:23.21 | hypa7ia | which still sucks :-) |
| 21:23.25 | shmaltz | if you see that machine unlocked, then there is an armed gaurd watching over it |
| 21:23.52 | Zeeek | no it was just unavailable (outside) |
| 21:24.04 | shmaltz | anyhow, the turnstiles and the bus entrys are all *not* running windows |
| 21:24.13 | shmaltz | it's just the vending machines that are |
| 21:24.20 | shmaltz | and it was a simple business decision |
| 21:24.25 | Zeeek | shmaltz ever been to email anti spam usenet server? |
| 21:24.30 | shmaltz | the physical security on it is awesome |
| 21:24.30 | shepherd | why not just use a dummy term :) |
| 21:24.34 | Zeeek | the start there is called shiksa |
| 21:24.37 | shmaltz | zeeek, yep, why? |
| 21:24.42 | newmedian | ... I hear tell it's because IBM is telling people to get their bank machines off of OS/2, and Diebold is forcing upgrades to Windows. |
| 21:24.52 | Qwell | newmedian: not at all |
| 21:24.55 | Zeeek | what is it again e... |
| 21:24.57 | shmaltz | shepherd, b/c it doesn't require a connection |
| 21:25.06 | hypa7ia | nortel BCM's still run on windows NT |
| 21:25.51 | shmaltz | the idea behind the vending and the card reader machines is designed that *no* connection what so ever is required for it to be in operaiton |
| 21:26.05 | shmaltz | *thats why* dumb terminals are ruled out |
| 21:26.09 | Zeeek | shmaltz how does it know if you have any credit? |
| 21:26.18 | Qwell | its on the card |
| 21:26.31 | shmaltz | windows was the cheapest to get up and running because of the availablity of the hardware |
| 21:26.39 | shmaltz | Zeeek, it's on the card |
| 21:26.53 | shmaltz | zeeek, thats why decoding this is *major* |
| 21:27.03 | Zeeek | that would be easy to reprogram then no? |
| 21:27.08 | Qwell | very |
| 21:27.10 | shmaltz | zeeek, nope |
| 21:27.17 | Zeeek | you talking tape or chip? |
| 21:27.26 | shmaltz | zeeek both |
| 21:27.39 | Zeeek | ah the code used on the tape is a bad mutha? |
| 21:27.43 | shmaltz | chip on the readers, and tape on the cards |
| 21:27.59 | Zeeek | it is very common to get cards swiped in fake machines over here and the code is copied |
| 21:28.08 | shmaltz | in areas where there have been lots of tempering, they have disabled some features |
| 21:28.09 | Zeeek | no we have chips on the cards |
| 21:28.17 | rabelais | what does, call rejected, no authority found mean? I'm getting it with iaxtel, and how do I go about fixing it? |
| 21:28.34 | shmaltz | Zeeek, once you use a card in 2 areas that it is not possible, the MTA will nullify that card |
| 21:28.36 | shmaltz | try it |
| 21:28.41 | shmaltz | cops will be waiting for yo |
| 21:28.57 | Zeeek | I'm not into that kind of activity my good man... |
| 21:29.24 | Zeeek | I'm more the Ocean 11 level |
| 21:29.32 | shmaltz | if you use the card with $2.00 on it, and x minuts later with $4.00 on it, and no record of you purchasing the extra $4.00, then they will be waiting for you |
| 21:29.45 | Zeeek | well, almost, I'm more Ocean Spray level right now |
| 21:29.50 | Qwell | but...if they aren't connected to anything... |
| 21:29.50 | shmaltz | lol |
| 21:29.55 | Qwell | how could it possibly know? |
| 21:29.57 | shmaltz | the system is *very good* |
| 21:30.24 | shmaltz | Qwell, each and every reader reports everyso often about its readings and writings on these cards |
| 21:30.25 | Zeeek | better then to just knowck the cardholder on the head and take the card |
| 21:30.51 | Zeeek | aftre shoulder surfing the pin obviously |
| 21:31.29 | W1thdraw | anyone have problems w/ spa2002 and on hold music? |
| 21:31.33 | Zeeek | so how do all these charges from eastern europe happen? My firned visited yugoslavia or someplace a few years ago and suddely the charges were rolling in |
| 21:31.46 | Zeeek | The bank told him it was one of those illicit card swipers |
| 21:31.52 | shmaltz | there was one token clerk that cut the wire that connects her terminal to the central computer, and sold metrocards, which never got reported so she was able to take those metrocard earnings home |
| 21:31.58 | Zeeek | they do a swipe walking to register |
| 21:32.20 | Zeeek | ah I thought you were talking about bank cards |
| 21:32.24 | shmaltz | after using one of those cards twice, it was marked as unusable |
| 21:32.48 | Zeeek | W1thdraw back to that again, are we? |
| 21:32.56 | shmaltz | ppl complained, and the mta got down to the bottom of it, they have since enclosed the wires in a fire vandal proof case |
| 21:33.49 | Zeeek | NANAE that was it |
| 21:33.51 | Zeeek | http://groups.google.fr/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email/browse_thread/thread/9b3af357b5e58661/d19b0e6d77949c95?q=shiksa&rnum=37&hl=en#d19b0e6d77949c95 |
| 21:33.58 | shmaltz | look at this: |
| 21:33.59 | shmaltz | http://cellphones.hackaday.com/entry/1234000460040197/ |
| 21:34.15 | Zeeek | http://groups.google.fr/group/news.admin.net-abuse.email....?q=shiksa<------ |
| 21:34.26 | W1thdraw | Zeeek, yeah i think its the analog phone im using |
| 21:34.34 | *** join/#asterisk sd-tux (sd@2001:6f8:1372:0:0:0:0:2) |
| 21:35.29 | shmaltz | anyhow, 2600 has something on VoIP as well |
| 21:36.49 | W1thdraw | o i got another question... |
| 21:36.50 | W1thdraw | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.16 | shmaltz | gtg guys |
| 21:37.18 | shmaltz | c ya |
| 21:37.19 | shmaltz | bye |
| 21:37.31 | shmaltz | why doesn't /bye work? |
| 21:37.45 | shmaltz | gota do /quit |
| 21:37.57 | W1thdraw | ./part |
| 21:37.58 | shmaltz | since I'm chatting it should let me do /bye |
| 21:38.04 | *** part/#asterisk shmaltz (~chatzilla@ool-43551098.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:38.20 | W1thdraw | but that only makes u leave the chan |
| 21:40.07 | Zeeek | what are you chatting on DOS ? |
| 21:40.12 | Zeeek | DrDOS? |
| 21:40.22 | Zeeek | TRDOS? |
| 21:40.39 | Zeeek | oops he finally went to his reward |
| 21:40.47 | *** join/#asterisk DrJolo (~chatzilla@217.153.194.10) |
| 21:40.53 | Zeeek | gnight all! |
| 21:41.29 | *** part/#asterisk Zeeek (~Zeeek@Zeeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 21:44.40 | W1thdraw | why am i getting these errors |
| 21:44.40 | W1thdraw | May 15 23:40:55 NOTICE[18059]: res_musiconhold.c:309 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 21:44.59 | W1thdraw | it it happens when theres no traffic |
| 21:45.11 | *** join/#asterisk clive- (~pirch@rrba-146-80-204.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 21:45.24 | shepherd | is mpg123 installed? |
| 21:45.32 | clive- | any chan_capi guys about? |
| 21:45.47 | *** join/#asterisk aribge (~ari@server2-brt.lojasobino.com.br) |
| 21:46.56 | x9net | ANy *@home users in here today? |
| 21:47.05 | *** part/#asterisk aribge (~ari@server2-brt.lojasobino.com.br) |
| 21:47.53 | kapejod | what's chan_capi? |
| 21:48.43 | shepherd | something to do with isdn, right? |
| 21:49.11 | W1thdraw | shepherd, yes it is |
| 21:49.12 | W1thdraw | Asterisk:/etc/asterisk# whereis mpg123 |
| 21:49.12 | W1thdraw | mpg123: /usr/bin/mpg123 /usr/share/man/man1/mpg123.1.gz |
| 21:49.20 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (~lesouvage@cc341200-a.assen1.dr.home.nl) |
| 21:49.25 | shepherd | what version? |
| 21:49.46 | W1thdraw | High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. |
| 21:50.01 | shepherd | that's not the version :) |
| 21:50.15 | W1thdraw | :( |
| 21:50.27 | W1thdraw | what ver do i need? |
| 21:50.51 | shepherd | well.. i ment.. that's not the version... it's something else |
| 21:51.24 | W1thdraw | o |
| 21:51.53 | W1thdraw | in my musiconhold.conf i have... |
| 21:51.58 | W1thdraw | [classes] |
| 21:52.02 | W1thdraw | default => quietmp3:/usr/share/asterisk/mohmp3 |
| 21:52.11 | W1thdraw | do i need anything else? |
| 21:53.45 | shepherd | this is what i have: |
| 21:53.46 | shepherd | [classes] |
| 21:53.46 | shepherd | default => quietmp3:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3,-z |
| 21:53.46 | shepherd | annoying => quietmp3:/var/lib/asterisk/annoymp3,-z |
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| 22:05.03 | W1thdraw | is there such a thing as a prepaid voip service |
| 22:05.11 | shepherd | yup |
| 22:05.25 | RaYmAn-Bx | aren't most? |
| 22:05.26 | W1thdraw | that work w/ asterisk |
| 22:05.35 | shepherd | http://connect.voicepulse.com |
| 22:05.44 | W1thdraw | no like with broad voice u have to pay monthly |
| 22:05.45 | shepherd | lol.. yeah.. i think most are |
| 22:06.48 | brc_ | ~nufone |
| 22:06.49 | jbot | well, nufone is Visit http://www.nufone.net for an excellent, native IAX termination service. |
| 22:06.58 | brc_ | ~tell W1thdraw about nufone |
| 22:07.19 | shepherd | nufone is great too :) |
| 22:07.42 | shepherd | either nufone or voicepulse :) |
| 22:07.51 | W1thdraw | hmmm |
| 22:08.04 | rabelais | does fwd's iax registration work? it keeps giving me a "registration rejected", but my number and password are correct, I can login to the account through the website that way |
| 22:08.14 | trimi` | <jbot> nufone its not acceoting new acc latelu |
| 22:08.16 | trimi` | <jbot> nufone its not acceoting new acc lately |
| 22:08.26 | file | trimi`: yes they are |
| 22:08.33 | W1thdraw | does nufone have a prepaid plan |
| 22:08.44 | trimi` | does voicepulse allow calling to internation plans or only USA ? |
| 22:08.52 | file | rabelais: did you enable IAX? waited? |
| 22:08.55 | W1thdraw | cuz im only gonna have to make a few calls to demo it |
| 22:08.59 | file | W1thdraw: Yes if you went to their website you would know this |
| 22:09.01 | file | trimi`: yes |
| 22:09.28 | W1thdraw | file, im there i just cant read |
| 22:09.30 | W1thdraw | lol |
| 22:09.35 | rabelais | file: I have to enable iax service? |
| 22:09.39 | shepherd | hehe.. i will be the first to say, there really isn't much on nufone's website |
| 22:10.00 | file | rabelais: yes |
| 22:10.07 | file | rabelais: And then wait like 15 minutes I think or something |
| 22:10.26 | file | http://www.freeworlddialup.com/content/view/full/1501 |
| 22:10.27 | file | go there, read |
| 22:10.41 | rabelais | file: thank you |
| 22:10.57 | W1thdraw | shit why is my connection so slow today |
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| 22:22.44 | gbdrbob | is there any way to get a field logged to cdr in the dialplan as a varialble, specifially the billsec field? I want to set up a channel that is only used for a set number of minutes a month |
| 22:22.45 | |Vulture| | Anyone have any recommendations, I need to backup a SATA drive to a ATA drive and my backup program doesn't see SATA drives, anyone know one that will? |
| 22:23.29 | gbdrbob | being able to add call duration upon hangup to a field that get's zeroed on the 1st of the month would be the simplest way to do it, I think. |
| 22:27.38 | gbdrbob | I guess that I could have an agi script that scans the last few lines of the cdr file of the call lenght of that call upon hangup but it would be an ugly kludge |
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| 22:30.48 | gbdrbob | what I really need is an app_gsmdial - It's for LCR via a gsm module with free minutes - will only sue it for mobile to mobile calls... |
| 22:31.21 | gbdrbob | guess I'm taliking to myself then :-) |
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| 22:35.09 | coldfeet | hey all |
| 22:35.17 | gbdrbob | hello |
| 22:35.36 | coldfeet | I just installed asterisk again 1.0.1 version |
| 22:35.47 | coldfeet | wanted to get voicemail config into mysql |
| 22:36.06 | coldfeet | so downloaded the asterisk-addons and followed instructions |
| 22:36.24 | coldfeet | but I now get app_voicemail.c:1520 leave_voicemail: No entry in voicemail config file for '040600' |
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| 22:36.43 | coldfeet | the entry 040600 is in the DB, as opposed to being in voicemail.conf |
| 22:37.13 | coldfeet | I know the voicemail.conf is connecting to the DB, as i put the entries into the voicemail.conf file in [default] |
| 22:37.31 | coldfeet | do I need to delete all the other settings, |
| 22:41.20 | coldfeet | oh I have USE_MYSQL_VM_INTERFACE=1 |
| 22:41.20 | coldfeet | in the asterisk/apps/Makefile |
| 22:41.39 | gbdrbob | sorry I've not set up * with mysql yet so can't help others may be able to though... |
| 22:41.50 | bkw__ | eww asterisk stable |
| 22:41.58 | bkw__ | that was removed in CVS-HEAD |
| 22:42.14 | bkw__ | coldfeet, why are you using 1.0.1? |
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| 22:42.36 | coldfeet | um....good question, it was what I got used to...what is the latest stable |
| 22:42.44 | bkw__ | 1.0.7 |
| 22:42.45 | coldfeet | I can just drop it in now |
| 22:42.46 | bkw__ | but I use CVS |
| 22:42.50 | Qwell | bkw_: somebody was saying "sip debug" was removed from head? |
| 22:42.57 | Qwell | were they just idiots, or what? |
| 22:42.59 | bkw__ | Qwell, since when? |
| 22:43.03 | bkw__ | idiot |
| 22:43.04 | Qwell | That answers that |
| 22:43.12 | coldfeet | ok is 1.0.7 stable or cvs, i dont want to go cvs, until Realtime is stable i guess |
| 22:43.23 | bkw__ | realtime is stable |
| 22:43.31 | bkw__ | just alot of stupid people dont get it |
| 22:43.32 | Qwell | realtime IS stable, or is IN stable? |
| 22:43.34 | bkw__ | so they say its bad |
| 22:43.35 | file | bkw__: 64-bit you know what is uploading |
| 22:43.42 | bkw__ | file YAY |
| 22:43.47 | coldfeet | so its in 1.0.7...:-) |
| 22:43.53 | Qwell | coldfeet: no |
| 22:44.07 | bkw__ | CVS-HEAD is better |
| 22:44.16 | bkw__ | its ages ahead of "stable" |
| 22:44.20 | bkw__ | and stable means feature stable |
| 22:44.29 | bkw__ | not "stable" in the sense that it will not crash |
| 22:44.43 | Qwell | cvs head probably crashes less |
| 22:44.49 | Qwell | because there are more people fixing shit there |
| 22:45.08 | bkw__ | that |
| 22:46.03 | Juggie | thats not true |
| 22:46.07 | Juggie | i've never seen -stable crash |
| 22:46.08 | Juggie | ever |
| 22:46.18 | bkw__ | I have seen it do alot worse |
| 22:46.21 | coldfeet | okay just to clarify this before I wipe my old setup :-), cvs-head or 1.0.7.. |
| 22:46.21 | bkw__ | NOT WORK CORRECTLY |
| 22:46.27 | bkw__ | who said WIPE it |
| 22:46.30 | bkw__ | back it up |
| 22:46.32 | bkw__ | :P |
| 22:46.35 | coldfeet | :-) |
| 22:46.43 | coldfeet | dnt like backups all in or nuthing I say |
| 22:47.30 | coldfeet | cvs checkout zaptel libpri asterisk will get me head |
| 22:47.47 | coldfeet | i am glad I said "get me head" no "give me" ...its late |
| 22:47.49 | bkw__ | yes |
| 22:47.56 | bkw__ | well not give |
| 22:47.57 | bkw__ | but get |
| 22:47.59 | bkw__ | haha |
| 22:48.55 | rabelais | what does "no authority found" mean? |
| 22:49.34 | MikeJ[Laptop] | means it found no authority, silly |
| 22:49.34 | bkw__ | exactly what it says |
| 22:49.36 | bkw__ | ie no user/pass matched |
| 22:49.36 | bkw__ | user no exist |
| 22:49.36 | bkw__ | wrong password |
| 22:49.36 | coldfeet | okay so now that I am getting cvs-head should I use voicemail.conf with mysql or go the whole 9 yards and use realtime and do it all in mysql |
| 22:49.41 | bkw__ | coldfeet, go read the wiki |
| 22:49.42 | file | bkw__: if it doesn't work I blame it on a resident failure field from David |
| 22:50.50 | rabelais | bkw_: well, I know the user/pass is correct, because the register line works, my dialout just doesn't want to work regardless of the format I try |
| 22:52.00 | rabelais | http://pastebin.ca/11836 |
| 22:52.09 | MikeJ[Laptop] | rabelais, it could be somthing screwey in the entry in sip.conf and sitll have the register work |
| 22:52.22 | file | HOT AND SEXY IN THE HOUSE |
| 22:52.23 | MikeJ[Laptop] | it means it's not matching to anything |
| 22:52.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | hot and sexy who? |
| 22:52.39 | rabelais | what's not matching? |
| 22:52.56 | file | someone |
| 22:53.16 | rabelais | :/ I don't get it...is the iax configuration really different from the sip one? |
| 22:53.21 | Juggie | your dial is wrong |
| 22:53.27 | Juggie | your not specifying a server |
| 22:53.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | that would do it |
| 22:53.41 | Juggie | the @fwd means context |
| 22:53.48 | Juggie | not server in iax.conf |
| 22:53.59 | MikeJ[Laptop] | or your mispelled or somthing in either sip or extensions onyour dial |
| 22:54.02 | rabelais | Juggie: that's different from how sip works? |
| 22:54.11 | file | did anyone else notice that fwd is setup as a user, and not a peer? |
| 22:54.19 | file | so asterisk won't use it for the outbound call and won't work? |
| 22:54.20 | rabelais | Juggie: cause my sip plans dial that way |
| 22:54.22 | Juggie | did you loko at the docs for Dial(IAX2 |
| 22:54.26 | MikeJ[Laptop] | oh... hehe, he pasted conf... missed that |
| 22:54.56 | Juggie | exten => 6242,1,Dial(IAX2/asterisk1:asterisk@${ASTERISK2}/4023@iax,${DIALTIME},r) |
| 22:55.26 | Juggie | for example |
| 22:56.36 | rabelais | what does the ${asterisk2} specify? |
| 22:56.52 | rabelais | the connecting sever? |
| 22:57.38 | Juggie | yes |
| 22:57.45 | Juggie | its a global var i have set |
| 22:58.00 | rabelais | what does the /4023@iax do? |
| 22:58.14 | rabelais | that the number calling? |
| 22:58.25 | Juggie | 4023 is the number being dialed |
| 22:58.29 | Juggie | and iax is the context being dialed |
| 22:58.40 | Juggie | you can omit @iax if you only have access to one context |
| 22:59.05 | rabelais | ok...so does the iax channel type need all this? cause with sip, I can do dial(sip/${exten}@broadvoice) and it's very happy |
| 22:59.43 | rabelais | all my username/password/host stuff is back in the context definition |
| 22:59.48 | Juggie | because with sip the dial string is different |
| 22:59.58 | Juggie | sip has no context |
| 23:00.02 | Juggie | for example |
| 23:00.18 | file | in a normal world you usually never need to specify context on IAX2 as well |
| 23:00.36 | file | because a sane person just sets up a regular context that includes all of them that they have access to... |
| 23:00.52 | file | as for your problem rabelais, you have fwd setup as the wrong type in iax.conf |
| 23:01.25 | file | there's examples out there for FWD, I suggest using them |
| 23:02.25 | file | rabelais: heck the FWD IAX site has examples on there that you just plug your information in |
| 23:02.50 | rabelais | file: I did try thoes |
| 23:03.10 | file | they work, believe me - if they didn't, you either did something wrong or your account isn't in the system yet |
| 23:03.15 | file | or an error occured on their part |
| 23:03.53 | rabelais | ok, I'll look over them again |
| 23:03.55 | rabelais | thanks |
| 23:04.16 | file | er upload |
| 23:04.32 | MikeJ[Laptop] | what's saggy? |
| 23:04.48 | file | your Mr. Pleasure! |
| 23:05.12 | file | er I mean my connection is laggy when uploading |
| 23:05.59 | MikeJ[Laptop] | how did you know that name |
| 23:06.38 | file | I'm psychic. |
| 23:06.47 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :) |
| 23:08.32 | rabelais | is dialing out to the 800 numbers from fwd often come back conjested? |
| 23:08.36 | gbdrbob | does anyone have an example of an * setup using gsm moduls with a limited number of free minutes - ie routes calls via the gsm units till minutes used up then uses other trunks? |
| 23:08.46 | file | rabelais: Are you dialing out right? |
| 23:08.51 | rabelais | file: yup |
| 23:09.00 | rabelais | file: err, at least I think so |
| 23:09.00 | file | rabelais: what are you dialing? |
| 23:09.30 | rabelais | 8002667872, but that's translated to 1${EXTEN} |
| 23:09.49 | file | does your dialplan have it so that will go to FWD? |
| 23:10.00 | rabelais | yup |
| 23:10.29 | file | well on FWD you have to put * in front |
| 23:10.45 | file | so *18005558355 for example |
| 23:11.03 | rabelais | oh |
| 23:11.36 | rabelais | hey hey!...that worked :) |
| 23:11.52 | file | uh huh |
| 23:12.25 | rabelais | this is great...now I can call those 800 numbers without having to worry about them hunting down my real number |
| 23:12.34 | file | lol |
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| 23:17.56 | vpp | yooooooooo |
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| 23:18.34 | dyl0n | hi |
| 23:18.45 | file | ...hi |
| 23:21.02 | vpp | is there any cheap FXO device for asterisk? |
| 23:21.28 | Nugget | that depends on what "cheap" is to you. |
| 23:21.55 | vpp | erm cheap = loswest in price that u know of :) |
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| 23:27.08 | mmlj4 | select FXO where quality = "crap" |
| 23:27.56 | vpp | eh? |
| 23:28.16 | vpp | sounds like an sql query lol |
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| 23:28.32 | gbdrbob | vpp if you want a digital line and you're in europe, a second hand Bt speedway isdn card is a good bet |
| 23:28.46 | vpp | i dont need a digital line |
| 23:28.52 | gbdrbob | aka: avm fritz |
| 23:29.01 | mmlj4 | if we're going to learn technology, we might as well incorporate it into our geek speech, vpp |
| 23:29.20 | vpp | am i talking to bots? |
| 23:30.09 | blitzrage | zup |
| 23:30.50 | vpp | oh well |
| 23:30.52 | gbdrbob | vpp: then you're petrry much limited to the one port fxo card digum sell for $99. |
| 23:31.01 | vpp | 99$ for an fxo?! |
| 23:31.03 | vpp | jesus |
| 23:31.08 | vpp | i'll make my own |
| 23:31.13 | blitzrage | lol |
| 23:31.20 | blitzrage | X100P sucks |
| 23:31.32 | gbdrbob | they are available cheaper elsewhere... |
| 23:31.34 | Silik0n | digium no longer sells a 1 port FXO, they only sell the quad card |
| 23:31.43 | gbdrbob | oh, my bad |
| 23:31.54 | shepherd | digium sells a 1 port FXO |
| 23:31.55 | vpp | its a conspiracy |
| 23:31.58 | blitzrage | Silik0n: yep - and theres a reason for that :) |
| 23:32.03 | vpp | FXO is cheaper to make than FXS |
| 23:32.08 | vpp | u don't need an SLIC |
| 23:32.13 | Silik0n | and getting the ghetto 10 modem card for a FXO only works somtimes |
| 23:32.15 | shepherd | but it comes with 3 expansion slots :) |
| 23:32.24 | Silik0n | you still need a slic on a FXO just not a RSLIC |
| 23:32.24 | vpp | but they know the average nuuub uses an FXS for his oh so cool ip phone |
| 23:32.47 | vpp | what?! |
| 23:32.49 | vpp | no u dont |
| 23:32.57 | Silik0n | slic != rSLIC |
| 23:33.07 | vpp | an SLIC creates the voltages to power the line |
| 23:33.26 | Silik0n | that would be an rSLIC |
| 23:33.30 | Silik0n | r for rnging |
| 23:33.36 | vpp | err |
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| 23:34.20 | vpp | RSLIC = ringing slic? |
| 23:34.23 | vpp | oh ok |
| 23:34.28 | vpp | thats silly terminaology |
| 23:34.47 | vpp | i consider SLIC = rslic |
| 23:35.03 | vpp | because it represents the powered line |
| 23:35.10 | Silik0n | a SLIC it just that a subscriber line interface chip |
| 23:35.33 | Silik0n | and its needed to separte the line from the equipment |
| 23:35.35 | vpp | i think in the 80s u could differenciate between RSLIC and SLIC |
| 23:35.45 | vpp | today you gotta be joking? |
| 23:35.46 | Silik0n | you still can... |
| 23:36.04 | blitzrage | wish me luck in poker! |
| 23:36.06 | vpp | i've created an SLIC and RSLIC myself |
| 23:36.08 | Silik0n | sure you can get alotta stuff with it integrated, but there are times when you want it discrete |
| 23:36.09 | blitzrage | I'm out - peas! |
| 23:36.16 | vpp | DC-DC convertors have moved a long way |
| 23:36.20 | vpp | look at silvertel |
| 23:36.24 | vpp | 3v (r)slic |
| 23:37.43 | vpp | lol |
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| 23:38.00 | W1thdraw | has anyone had trouble getting flooded w/ May 16 01:04:10 NOTICE[20834]: res_musiconhold.c:309 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 23:38.00 | vpp | go look at the 'RAT' |
| 23:38.29 | vpp | u dont even need a real off the shelf SLIC for god sake |
| 23:38.35 | vpp | use a gyrator |
| 23:38.44 | coldfeet | in cvs-head is there a reason why none of the commands work from cli, eg sip debug etc etc |
| 23:38.54 | vpp | i think whats happening here is that the FXS market has crashed |
| 23:39.03 | vpp | because of the home voip bandwagon |
| 23:39.18 | vpp | u even got people like linksys making their routers with them built in |
| 23:39.27 | vpp | but they know FXO is being used to terminate voip = $$$ |
| 23:42.34 | gbdrbob | the digium dgital cards (e1/t1) are very competitive though |
| 23:43.02 | vpp | lol a digium bot? |
| 23:43.10 | gbdrbob | not quite |
| 23:43.50 | gbdrbob | I don't acutally have any digium hardware I'm in Uk and use a junghanns quadbri card |
| 23:43.54 | vpp | so the cheapest FXO is 99$ |
| 23:44.09 | vpp | how many people here want FXO? |
| 23:44.17 | gbdrbob | actually its $133 - the $99 was for the discontinued card |
| 23:44.49 | vpp | isolation, DTMF receiver and we're set |
| 23:44.54 | gbdrbob | but the $133 card can be upgraded with another 3 fxo or fxs modules |
| 23:45.07 | vpp | IAX or SIP through 15$ FPGA |
| 23:45.26 | vpp | 20$ part and board cost |
| 23:45.46 | shepherd | vpp: you can create a port for both fxo and fxs, but it costs to much |
| 23:45.59 | vpp | fxo powers the line |
| 23:46.06 | vpp | 12$ off the shelf price SLIC |
| 23:46.12 | vpp | or RSLIC if u like |
| 23:46.47 | vpp | fxo doesnt need to power the line, but needs a dtmf receiver 6$ off the shelf price |
| 23:47.22 | bjohnson | the SPA 3000 is actually the cheapest .. one fxs and one fxo for $99 USD |
| 23:47.50 | vpp | thats a marketing price and not based on cost |
| 23:47.54 | bjohnson | a channel bank is the cheapest per port if you need enough |
| 23:48.06 | vpp | because they know someone who needs FXO will just pay for it |
| 23:48.12 | bjohnson | vpp: I can only buy at the marketing cost |
| 23:48.22 | vpp | nah.. quintum is cheapest per port |
| 23:48.24 | gbdrbob | If you want the cheapest option: Intel modems marked with 537 or MD3200 chipsets. These cards install and behaves exactly like a Digium Wildcard X101P card. (There are problems with intel 537EP & FA82537EP chipsets, but the 537PU & 537PG should work.) OEM X100P "clone" cards are sold based upon this soft modem chipset. People report very mixed results. Most start their Asterisk learning with these very inexpensive cards. |
| 23:48.26 | vpp | but i'm talking h323 |
| 23:48.36 | gbdrbob | from voip-info.org |
| 23:48.39 | vpp | and quintum is useless |
| 23:48.55 | vpp | their codecs use more bandwidth upload than the oposing gateway download |
| 23:49.03 | bjohnson | cheapest pstn interface is no card at all |
| 23:49.12 | gbdrbob | you can find those modems for less than $20 |
| 23:49.24 | bjohnson | (voip provider) |
| 23:49.34 | vpp | cheapest solution is to use a PC with 6 x PCI FXO cards from china |
| 23:49.40 | vpp | and stack them up |
| 23:49.43 | vpp | thats a joke |
| 23:49.48 | bjohnson | yeah .. but 6 won't work |
| 23:49.59 | bjohnson | so cheapest and doesn't work isn't really a solution |
| 23:50.01 | vpp | its cheaper to stack up PC's than to buy a 20$ box that does single port FXO, but they sharge 99$ |
| 23:50.19 | vpp | 6 will work |
| 23:50.30 | bjohnson | I guess that would make a rock from my yard the cheapest solution |
| 23:50.33 | brc_ | http://www.pythonchallenge.com/about.htm |
| 23:50.48 | shepherd | cheapest isn't always the best, though :) |
| 23:50.59 | vpp | best in which regard? |
| 23:51.03 | vpp | codec is done on pc |
| 23:51.09 | vpp | its analogue |
| 23:51.22 | vpp | its really not that hard |
| 23:51.42 | vpp | i've made PSTN equipment |
| 23:52.13 | vpp | u know u could buy a atmel FPGA.. although they call it some fancy name with IP in it |
| 23:52.30 | vpp | connect it to a SLIC and u have a single port gateway for < 50$ |
| 23:52.40 | vpp | *FXO |
| 23:53.26 | vpp | i think i'm just venting |
| 23:54.38 | vpp | because i see something thats suposed to be free, but with a grossly silly price tag on equipment u need to work with it |
| 23:54.57 | vpp | which is fine really |
| 23:55.03 | vpp | but don't tell me its cheap |
| 23:55.04 | vpp | cos its not |
| 23:55.25 | vpp | it has a 300 to 500% markup and i'm being nice |
| 23:56.50 | vpp | nevermind! cya tommorow :) |
| 23:57.09 | gbdrbob | that's capitalism, supply and demand - they have to make money somewhere and the * software would be _very_ expensive as a closed source app - an * system is still much cheaper/more flexible than many systems that companies get sold |
| 23:57.25 | vpp | thats bullshit |
| 23:57.31 | vpp | who made this software? |
| 23:57.36 | vpp | did they ALL get payed for it? |
| 23:57.47 | vpp | you can't say here's something open source |
| 23:57.49 | vpp | everyone help |
| 23:57.59 | shepherd | well.. that's how it happened |
| 23:58.06 | vpp | and also say hey i'm gonna make $$$ on this |
| 23:58.14 | vpp | cos i spent my time on it |
| 23:58.21 | vpp | how much did digium make on it |
| 23:58.31 | vpp | and how much time did they spend relatively? |
| 23:58.44 | vpp | if they really spent that much it would have been closed up by now |
| 23:58.49 | shepherd | digium currently makes $0 on asterisk software.. |
| 23:58.53 | vpp | u can't have it every way |
| 23:58.58 | shepherd | they are trying to make a "business edition" |
| 23:59.03 | vpp | yes but they push their cards |
| 23:59.04 | shepherd | but so far.. $0 |
| 23:59.09 | shepherd | yes.. so what? |
| 23:59.18 | vpp | everywhere u go there is propganda that digium is best |
| 23:59.28 | gbdrbob | it's open source but don't try to pretend that most of the development work hasn't come from digium - a lot of community involvemnt yes, but digium puts a lot in too |
| 23:59.29 | vpp | but u cant have it both ways can u |
| 23:59.49 | vpp | is it free cos people help |
| 23:59.54 | shepherd | well, if you think it's bull.. then why don't you take what you can |
| 23:59.57 | vpp | or is it free enough so i can get people help |
