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00:04.36alt_philAnyone every install asterisk from the debian apt repositories without building it from source - and have good luck?  My boss wants me to rebuild asterisk, I want to go source, he wants to go with the apt repository.  Suggestions?
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00:05.59JunK-Cwhy not getting the cvs-head?
00:06.44ManxPoweralt_phil: Asterisk is one of those few pieces of software that is best built from source, at least until you become familiar with it.
00:06.56ManxPowerThen build your own pacakge
00:07.01NewSolehmmmmm.....
00:07.02alt_philThat's what I want to do.  I'm looking for arguments to convince my boss against using the apt repository
00:07.32alt_philI'd just be more comfortable knowing everything was "so fresh and so clean"
00:07.42tzafriralt_phil, me: both ways
00:07.42alt_philBut that's not much of an argument :)
00:07.47ManxPoweralt_phil: I have never seen anyone come into the channel that was using a packaged asterisk that didn't switch to using source.
00:08.01Jerubalt_phil: go both! apt-get source -b asterisk !
00:08.05tzafrirIf you don't like the binary package from your distro, rebuild it
00:08.10ManxPowerThere are obviously people out there that use packages, but I just can't see doing it, and I'm a BIG fan of packages.
00:08.42tzafrirManxPower, what's so wrong with that?
00:08.52tzafrirAs opposed to , say, apache and mysql
00:09.06NewSoleany one know why I am getting message from zap card.....
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00:09.07NewSoleMar 29 19:04:28 WARNING[22993]: chan_sip.c:2020 sip_write: Asked to transmit frame type 4, while native formats is 256 (read/write = 256/256)
00:09.33ManxPowerNewSole: "show codecs"
00:10.07NewSoledid
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00:11.49Jerubtzafrir: most people I know build apache and mysql from source too - there are compile time options that you need to fiddle with for optimisation and sanity reasons.
00:12.43tzafrirJerub, wrong excuse: you can always patch the distro's apache
00:13.07ManxPowertzafrir: Asterisk changes fast.
00:13.08tzafrirAnd a good distro will have apache which is much saner to configure
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00:13.29ManxPowerBuilding a package for each update is silly.
00:13.29tzafrirManxPower, Asterisk depends on quite a few libs
00:13.52ManxPowertzafrir: There is that too.
00:13.54Jerubtzafrir: yes, but this was RHEL. ;)
00:14.04tzafrirManxPower, building asterisk again for each computer is silly
00:14.05ManxPowerAnd of course zaptel has to be built from source on each system
00:14.27ManxPoweror at least on each kernel version
00:14.31tzafrirManxPower, not if the distro provides zaptel modules for its kernel
00:14.54ManxPowertzafrir: even so.  You should keep Asterisk and Zaptel build from the same version of source.
00:15.15tzafrirThat's what Build-Depends is for
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00:15.30ManxPoweri.e. zaptel-1.0.3 and asterisk-1.03 and not asterisk-1.0.8
00:16.18ManxPowerI upgrade when I see a fix posted to asterisk-cvs that I feel we need.
00:16.19tzafrirManxPower, without package management you can only hope that this is the case. Typically you get error messages at run-time and not at install-time
00:16.24ManxPowerNot based on version numbers
00:17.03ManxPowertzafrir: A whole lot of people stoped having problems when they used asterisk built from source.
00:17.24tzafrirManxPower, this is a symptom of a build system that is not good enough
00:17.38tzafrirAsterisk has a relatively compex build system
00:18.18tzafrirIt takes some taming. Once the taming is done, the process will be much simpler
00:18.42ManxPowertzafrir: Perhaps the whole asterisk-sounds fisasco soured me on the idea.
00:19.03tzafrirWhat do you mean? Any pointers?
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00:19.55dwmw2it would be nice to get asterisk and the zaptel drivers in RHEL
00:20.02dwmw2or at least Fedora
00:20.13dwmw2the zaptel drivers should ideally be in the upstream kernel
00:20.15ManxPowerThere is an asterisk-sounds cvs.  It contains extra sounds for Asterisk.  Some idiot pacakger took Asterisk, then broke it into asterisk and asterisk-sounds package.  The asterisk-sounds were the sounds in the original asterisk tarball.
00:20.24tzafrirdwmw2, if you think it'd be so nice, go ahead and package it
00:20.32ManxPowerImagine the confusion when we told these people they wanted to get asterisk-sounds
00:20.34dwmw2tzafrir: with pleasure
00:20.41alt_philBe damn nice to get them in RHEL.  I've got out box running on RHEL now, and a backup on a debian system, and both systems have different problems.  It's driving me nuts.
00:21.01dwmw2alt_phil: Do me a favour; file a RFE for it :)
00:23.45tzafrirManxPower, a good package is not an easy thing to get. To get a package to magically install and upgrade requires some testing and debugging.
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00:24.17tzafrirAnd natuarally some silly mistakes are done in the process.
00:24.42ManxPowertzafrir: Everything I install other than Asterisk is from RPM
00:25.25tzafrirlibtiff? h323?
00:25.38ManxPowertzafrir: I don't use either of those two things
00:26.19tzafrirThere are so many very specific build requirements, and people waste tons of time reading the docs and compiling with the wrong versions and to the wrong locations.
00:26.20ManxPowerI did have to install a libtiff when I played with spandsp way back
00:26.44alt_philThere's a good question to bring up.  libtiff - trust a packaged one?  (ie:  Hope they didn't backport whatever broke the newer versions)
00:27.02tzafrirThey still feel they've gained some guru-factor, but is it really necessary just to get the ****** PBX working?
00:27.06ManxPoweralt_phil: I'm not up on what version spandsp requires these days.
00:27.43alt_philI believe 3.5.7 and 3.6.0 are ok, but anything else is pretty much b0rkb0rkb0rk.  I could be wrong on the versions, but I'm close.
00:27.46tzangeralt_phil: no don't trust a packaged one
00:27.50ManxPowertzafrir: I rsync everything from a central location.  do: cd zaptel; make install; cd ../libpri; make install; cd ../asterisk; make install
00:27.52tzangereven the slackware 3.5.7 one didn't work right
00:27.52ManxPowerand that's it
00:28.08tzafriralt_phil, with a distro package you can normally know that others have built with the same version as you did, so success you can easily share your success/failure stories with others
00:28.12dwmw2alexns: I'm using the FC3 packaged version with spandsp-0.0.2pre10
00:28.38ManxPowerdwmw2: the latest one fixes problems with some fax machines.
00:28.48dwmw2latest spandsp?
00:28.49tzafrirWell, current version on Debian Sarge and Sid seems to be good enough
00:28.51NewSoleMaxx you have any idea
00:29.00dwmw2or latest libtiff?
00:29.01tzafrirI haven't yet built pre11, though
00:29.03ManxPowerNewSole: about what?
00:29.08tzafrirlatest libtiff
00:29.12dwmw2ah, ok.
00:29.13ManxPowerdwmw2: latest spandsp
00:29.40ManxPowerdwmw2: It was announced on the mailing list.  Go look for yourself.
00:30.06ManxPower~google site:lists.digium.com *pre11*
00:30.18ManxPowergmm
00:30.39tzafrirHow often does google index the list archives?
00:31.03ManxPower~google site:lists.digium.com 4247B8F3.8040209@coppice.org
00:31.16ManxPowernot enoug to index that
00:31.39NewSoleManxPower... any idea why I am getting that from zap card
00:31.51ManxPowerThe message is dated MAR 28 2005
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00:32.15ManxPowerNewSole: Did you look at "show codecs"
00:32.19tzafrirAnyway, what parts exactly of the kernel source does zaptel use for building?
00:32.30NewSoleyes... how do I assign a codec to it
00:32.30ManxPoweri have no idea.
00:32.47ManxPowerNewSole: so what are the codec names for the numbers reported in the error message.
00:32.50tzafrirI wonder if the package that is called "kernel-headers" on Debian should be sufficient to build zaptel
00:33.16dwmw2tzafrir: there should be a package which contains enough to build kernel modules. It's headers and a few makefiles.
00:33.24tzafrirIt basically includes the skeleton of the kernel tree with the makefile and .config and include files
00:33.28dwmw2kernel-headers may be the header files which are shared by userspace.
00:33.36NewSole4 = G.711 u-law and 256 = g729
00:33.40dwmw2in Fedora the package you want would be kernel-devel
00:33.52dwmw2and the userspace headers glibc-kernheaders
00:34.15dwmw2tzafrir: do you have anything in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build ?
00:34.17ManxPowerNewSole: some device is trying to use G729 and you don't have a license.  eithe buy a license or make the device not use G729
00:34.28tzafrirBut should that be enough to build zaptel? Or does it require some objects/sources from the source tree?
00:34.38NewSoleahh ol
00:34.39dwmw2tzafrir: I think that should be enough
00:34.55tzafrirWell, that'll save me some space
00:35.01NewSoleya I forgot... have lic... just did not reg it
00:35.08NewSolethnx
00:35.20tzafrirBTW: is there really such a size difference between the 2.4 modules and 2.6 modules?
00:35.29ManxPowerNewSole: It's best not to try to use Asterisk when you've been drinking.
00:35.56NewSoleor up for 36 hours
00:36.03tzafrirThe 2.4 modules are about 100-150kb (packed). The 2.6 modules take around 1MB
00:36.05ManxPowersame effect
00:36.38NewSolehehehe
00:36.40tzafrir(that is: modules built for kernel 2.4 and for kernel 2.6)
00:37.25dwmw2is that true even when the latter are stripped?
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00:37.53alt_philOooo man, I think I may try working on my asterisk machines while drunk.  I'm ready to try anything to get rid of these damned HDLC Abort errors.
00:37.57tzafrirdwmw2, I tried stripping the former. But then they refused to load
00:38.05dwmw2'strip -g'
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00:38.17dwmw2stripping them completely wouldn't be wonderfully useful
00:38.22tzangeralt_phil: what have you done so far
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00:39.38alt_philFirst, the new digium card wasn't syncing it's clock, even though it was set right.  Digium claims it's a bug in our PRI card.  So we used the old card, had an IRQ conflict, fixed that, had our switchtype wrong, fixed that, rebuild the zaptel driver a few times... not sure what else to do yet.
00:39.45dwmw2out of interest, why build Asterisk with -fsigned-char? Can't we just fix anywhere that makes broken assumptions about 'char' being signed?
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00:40.12tzangeralt_phil: what hardware are you on
00:41.27alt_philA dell poweredge 400sc with a digium card needing the wct1xxp driver.
00:41.58hardwireas a voip provider the only way to set CID outbound is w/ an SS7 ?
00:42.05alt_philT100P
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00:42.08tzangeralt_phil: ok
00:42.13tzangerI have several of those working
00:42.39tzangerfirst things first -- I have always had better success compiling zaptel with MMX enabled and -march=pentium4 (or whatever your CPU is)
00:42.50tzangeractually before the first thing
00:43.01tzangercompletely blow away your zaptel directory and check out fresh cvs
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00:44.14alt_philYeah, P4 2.8g
00:44.55Brixiusis anyone besides me having issues with "avoiding iax destroy deadlock" errors locking up *
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00:46.55tzafrirdwmw2, thanks, strip -g seems to allow the module to load
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00:56.11_Blue_hello... is it possible to use TDMoE equipments like those from CTC Union with asterisk?
00:56.27DaGrimwhats a good site that I can check the availability of a DID on for free?
00:56.30DaGrimanybody? =)
00:57.25_Blue_:(
01:03.11PTG1234on for free?
01:03.19PTG1234like to see if a number is available?
01:03.23DaGrimYea..
01:03.24PTG1234you mean 800 or normal?
01:03.28DaGrim866
01:03.28mgthdagrim: 800s you can do att.com
01:03.35mgthatt.com
01:03.36DaGrimok.. thanks
01:03.48DaGrimhah.. thats what I thought..
01:03.51DaGrimhmm
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01:05.15DaGrimAll 3 of their stations here.. wont shut the hell up about how theyre giving away $10,000 every hour.. anybody that is whatever caller gets it automatically... right? here is the funny part.. I just purchased the DID they have been giving out on there air.. lol
01:05.28FaithfulpeterS gravity,helix: does the poetry that comes out of either one of them actually have enough structure to be called crappy haiku, though, as opposed to just generic crap?
01:05.47DaGrimAnd they plan on continuing that 'contest' for another 3 weeks? Obviously its a up their ratings..
01:07.50JerubDaGrim: you just bought the number?
01:08.03JerubDaGrim: so you're going to be talking to the callers?
01:08.07DaGrimYEP
01:08.45JerubDaGrim: send a fax to their competition, explain what you've done.
01:08.58DaGrimHmmmm .. good idea
01:09.03DaGrimhehe
01:09.20JerubDaGrim: a fax will get to the right people the fastest. an email will be ignored, and everyone knows you can't phone a radio station
01:09.20webmikoyea. tell them for enough youll have a message advertising any radio station they want.
01:09.27DaGrim=D
01:11.06JerubDaGrim: got any calls yet? ;)
01:12.36DaGrimhavent quite decided what to do yet
01:12.36DaGrimlol
01:18.02JerubDaGrim: no, seriously, you've got the number, have you gotten any callers yet?
01:18.15JerubDaGrim: I don't know how this stuff works, do you have to set it up somehow?
01:18.39DaGrimyea.. like .. I dont have enough bandwith to use it.. at the moment..
01:21.19bkw_quick
01:21.20bkw_http://www.acurrentaffair.com/
01:21.23bkw_everyone go there
01:21.26bkw_vote online
01:21.28bkw_and call the tollfree
01:21.39bkw_to vote if jacko is guilty or not
01:22.37Jerubwtf?
01:24.05Nivexbkw_: I think you have us confused with people who care
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01:24.36dmccollumyou're thinking sexual. It's not sexual. it's a loving relationship. We lay in bed watching movies, eat cookies, read playboys and drink warm milk.
01:24.50DaGrimhah
01:27.02fugitivodmccollum: i know what that feels, boring
01:27.42Brixiusbkw_: where are you, that was on tv about an hour or 2 ago
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01:28.24dmccollumhey if Jackson can be late to court, bkw can be late with the info.
01:28.34Brixiustrue
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01:28.53dwmw2this was not the desired effect :)
01:29.20BrixiusI was assuming that he's in another time zone then me, which would explain it.
01:29.44Jerubastounding
01:31.26dmccollumI heard something interesting the other day on the radio. Jackson started with all the plastic surgery after Brooke Shields told him she just wanted to be friends.
01:33.47JerubI heard on the radio the other day that americans back assassins tried to kill a political leader in haiti.
01:34.05Jerub*grumble*
01:34.15fugitivoIf my line doesn't have the right tension impulse to detect the hungup with my x100p, is any way to solve that problem?
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01:35.30Brixiushow do
01:35.45BrixiusI checkout an old version of * from cvs
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01:37.15MavvieBrixius: cvs update -r. see the cvs man-page for more information
01:37.34Brixiusthanks
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01:44.46Brixiusdoes anyone know what the ip address is for cvs.digium.com  for some reason I can't refrence it by name
01:45.35Beirdo~dns cvs.digium.com
01:45.43Beirdohmph
01:45.47Beirdothere ya go
01:45.51Brixiusthanks
01:45.52Beirdo~seen slePP
01:45.54jbotslepp is currently on #asterisk
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01:46.29vergeI just tried to call a # that was busy. There was nothing but dead air. Is there something I can add to my dial plan so that I will receive the busy signal?
01:46.47vergeI didn't know it was busy until I tried again using my landlind.
01:47.22iCEBrkrAny reason why I'd be getting this..
01:47.22iCEBrkrMar 29 20:44:36 NOTICE[7873]: chan_sip.c:7848 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer '2102' is now UNREACHABLE!
01:47.31iCEBrkrI'm still trying to debug my SPA2k
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01:49.19JohnnyDthis is linked to a qualify=yes or qualify=<a number> line in sip.conf
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01:49.22tullhello
01:49.31tulldoes anyone use actos?
01:49.47iCEBrkrJohnnyD: Everyone tells me this, but that doesn't explain why it's unreachable.
01:49.56iCEBrkrIt's on the same switch on the same network in the same house...
01:50.19JohnnyDI use Spa2ks as well, and they stay "reacheable"...hmmmm
01:50.37iCEBrkrI can ping the thing all night and day...
01:50.37iCEBrkr10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9009ms
01:50.38iCEBrkrrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.768/0.776/0.787/0.031 ms
01:51.17iCEBrkrJohnnyD: It worked fine up until 2 days ago
01:51.20marloweIt can simply be a bad device...
01:51.29marloweI've had devices simply gone bad.
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01:51.34iCEBrkrI got another SPA-2k down here ( remote from my asterisk box ) and it's registered and reachable just fine.
01:51.35JohnnyDiCEBrkr: have you checked the value for the qualify statement?
01:51.46iCEBrkrmarlowe: I'm leaning towards that.
01:51.48marloweYou say you can ping i but you can you access it via a web control panel / telnet, etc.
01:51.52marloweDon
01:51.54iCEBrkrmarlowe: Since I can't even upgrade the firmware
01:52.09marloweI'm 99% sure it's not asterisk and it's the phone
01:52.13marloweOr a bad switch, or hub.
01:52.17JohnnyDseems to be a dead Spa
01:52.17marloweEven though you can ping it...
01:52.18iCEBrkrmarlowe: I can configure it via the web interface as well, yes.
01:52.34marloweI'd exchange it if it's under warranty.
01:52.37marloweIf it happens after that
01:52.40marloweYou know it's something else.
01:52.45JohnnyDdoews it stays registered when you get the "unreacheable" message?
01:53.02marloweI've driven myself crazy before with all types of phones with common problems.. Usually a bad device
01:53.15iCEBrkr<PROTECTED>
01:53.16iCEBrkr<PROTECTED>
01:53.25marloweEspecially if it'll initially register and then de-register
01:53.32marloweiCEBrkr: Upgrade the firmware
01:53.39JohnnyDhe can't!
01:53.44iCEBrkrit won't
01:53.45marloweWhy not?
01:53.47iCEBrkrdunno
01:53.51marloweGet a new one
01:53.53marloweEnd of story.
01:53.56marloweNext
01:54.04marlowe:)
01:54.05JohnnyDput under the front (or rear tyre)! ..sorry
01:54.14marlowetyre?
01:54.16iCEBrkrYea, that's what I'm thinking
01:54.18marloweOr tire?
01:54.19JohnnyDof your car
01:54.26JohnnyDlol
01:54.38marloweI can accept fone instead of phone.. and there instead of their
01:54.41marloweBut tyre??
01:55.14Beirdotyre is proper spelling if you are a non-Yank
01:55.20JohnnyDeven from OZ?
01:55.23Beirdoit is a possible proper spelling
01:55.38marloweIs it really?
01:55.41marloweI've never seen it before
01:55.46JohnnyDstrait from teh Oxford dict.
01:55.49Jerubtyre is how I spell it.
01:55.56marlowelol sorry for making fun of it then :)
01:55.59iCEBrkrMar 29 20:55:44 WARNING[7873]: chan_sip.c:685 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 73715f662d4244a26396a0d302119f5b@207.166.196.131 for seqno 102 (Non-critical Request)
01:56.02iCEBrkrSee.
01:56.04iCEBrkrI shouldnt' get crap like that
01:56.05marloweI've really never seen tyre.. Ok :)
01:56.08Jerubmarlowe: I suppose you've never been to gaol then ;)
01:56.17Beirdohehe
01:56.24marloweiCEBrkr: That's kind of normal once in a while
01:56.25Beirdolet's hope not
01:56.31marloweJerub: nope!
01:57.09marloweAccording to dictionary.com a tyre is curdled milk
01:57.13marlowelol
01:57.16iCEBrkrOh well.
01:57.20iCEBrkrI'm gonna have to consider this thing dead.
01:57.22marloweamongst other things
01:57.28marloweiCEBrkr: dont drive yourself crazy
01:57.31marloweIf it's under warranty replace it
01:57.37marloweEspecially since you cant upgrade the firmware
01:57.53iCEBrkrWell, I'm remote, so I can't tell exactly whats going on
01:58.10Hmmhesaysare there any good reverse mobile lookups in the us?
01:58.17sudhir492anyone using h323 here
01:58.24marloweHmmhesays: There's... uhh none
01:58.26marlowethat I know of
01:58.30marloweThere is talk of one
01:58.41marloweI dont think it'll happen for a while to come
01:58.56Hmmhesaysyeah
01:58.58Hmmhesaysthat sucks
01:59.08marloweNot really.. people don't want it.. (most people)
01:59.16marloweThink about what would happen if telemarketers got a hold of that
01:59.31Hmmhesayswell, it sucks when you need to know the name of a number holder
01:59.33sudhir492chan h323's documentation points to versions of pwlib and openh323 which are non existent at sourceforge:-(
01:59.39marloweThere is talk about having it.. Not having reverse only forward and not being able to search online
01:59.46marloweIt doesn't suck, it's called privacy
01:59.48marloweCall them and ask
01:59.49Hmmhesayshaha
02:00.00Hmmhesaysit's a long story
02:00.06marloweGive me $150
02:00.11marloweI'll give you the name and billing address
02:00.15marlowe;)
02:00.22Hmmhesayshaha I could slip the cellone guy a $50
02:00.25marloweEven a months of call log
02:00.35Hmmhesaysnow that would be impressive
02:00.42marloweIt's easy.. Well I don't do it
02:00.44marlowemy friend does.
02:00.47DEEZEDhey is there a way to run caller ID information by a information database to do a reverse loojk up?
02:00.58Hmmhesaysthat's pretty interesting
02:01.04Brixiusgoogle a phone #
02:01.08marloweDEEZED: Yea, calll verisign and ask to sign up for there sip service.. lol
02:01.24Hmmhesaysone would think most service provider sites would be fairly secure
02:01.39marloweHmmhesays: I think he knows inside people at all companies
02:01.39DEEZEDso i guess no automated way... I saw a company that offered it as a service with their IVR accounts
02:01.47marloweNothing to do with the web site
02:01.59marloweDEEZED: sure, write a script.. Then it'll be automated.
02:02.04DEEZEDlmao
02:02.07marloweI've got a script that does a reverse lookup on anywho
02:02.19marloweThen if nothing is found it queries my mysql database and prints the city and state
02:02.34DEEZEDoh sweet
02:02.47Hmmhesaysknowing people helps
02:02.50marloweYeah, it comes with perl-agi or asterisk, i forget which
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02:02.57marloweMost of it - I made some modifications
02:03.20JohnnyDsomething funny with TDM4xx cards: I have two of those and the "top" command reports about 16% of cpu time spent in irq state. That goes to 32% when I put the second crad in. Is this normal?
02:03.34JohnnyDanyone seen that before?
02:03.36marloweJohnJacob: not really
02:03.38marloweerr
02:04.06marlowenope
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02:04.26JohnnyDhmmmmmm
02:04.34marloweThis is normal..
02:04.49marloweCPU0 states:  0.0% user, 66.0% system,  0.0% nice, 33.0% idle
02:04.49marloweCPU1 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
02:04.49marloweCPU2 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
02:04.49marloweCPU3 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
02:04.55marlowewoahh 33% idle
02:04.55marlowewtf
02:04.57JohnnyDthanks, i feel better
02:05.10marlowetop is taking 94.1% cpu
02:05.11marlowewtf
02:05.16marlowe13598 root      15   0  1116 1116   864 R    94.1  0.1   0:00 top
02:05.26Brixiustime to quit top
02:05.32Jerubtop lies anyay.
02:05.33JohnnyDobviously
02:05.56Jerubbecause it only measures every 2 seconds or so, so it reports itself as using lots of cpu.
02:06.04marloweVery true
02:06.07marlowebut not 94.1%
02:06.09marloweIt's normal now
02:06.18Jerub94% isn't much
02:06.28JohnnyDit's normally around a couple of % for top
02:06.30Jerubthat's just "cpu bound operation for a short time"
02:06.32marlowetop using 94.1%?
02:06.40marloweNo it was nailed at that for like 20 seconds
02:06.40marlowelol
02:06.49Jeruboh, that's not normal.
02:07.08Jerubhave a look at ps while top is running, see if you get similar numbers.
02:07.16marloweExactly
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02:10.55marloweEver since I've starting using asterisk's native moh... my cpu usage is very low
02:11.55iCEBrkrnative moh?
02:12.00marloweuh huh
02:12.07iCEBrkrWhat is this blasphemy you speak of?
02:12.12iCEBrkr:D
02:12.22iCEBrkrYa don't have to use mpg123 anymore?
02:12.40marloweno
02:12.55marloweWake up
02:13.02marlowehttp://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20config%20musiconhold.conf
02:13.14marloweLook towards the bottom
02:13.41iCEBrkrNice.
02:13.48iCEBrkrThat's gotta me relatively new.
02:13.59BrixiusI was thinking of using a net radio station for moh, but does the native moh only running when someone's on hold, or will it be downloading the stream anytime asterisk is running?
02:14.04marloweNot that new.. I dunno I cant remember
02:14.14marloweOnly when someons on hold
02:14.15DEEZEDnative moh automatically converts it?
02:14.23Brixiuscool
02:14.29iCEBrkrWell.. it's not in 1.0.3 and if it is it wasn't documented when I compiled it
02:14.39marloweBut native wont work for streaming
02:14.54iCEBrkrI need this
02:14.58marloweShoutcast Music On Hold
02:14.59marloweYou can have asterisk use a streaming source for on-hold music.
02:14.59marloweMake a directory and put a 0 size file ending in .mp3.
02:14.59marloweI called my directory: /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3-empty
02:14.59marlowein musiconhold.conf, add a line such as:
02:15.00marlowedefault => mp3:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3-empty,http://www.waixwave.com:8000/
02:15.05iCEBrkrnow I'm gonna have to tinker with it!
02:15.15DEEZEDdo you stull need to convert the mp3s to lame -q -p --mp3input -a --preset 8 -m mono in.mp3 8kout.mp3
02:15.22marloweDEEZED: no
02:15.22iCEBrkrshoutcast for moh.. that just chews up even MORE bandwidth.
02:15.44marloweWhat I like about native moh is that everytime you place someone on hold it starts from the beginning of the file..
02:15.57DEEZEDreally? thats great for companies
02:16.02DEEZEDcan you turn that off though?
02:16.07marloweAnd if you have multiple files like I do and use the random feature, I have 20 files with advertisements and info for our company
02:16.25marloweEver since native moh + my new moh records.. my phone system rocks
02:16.42marloweCustomers have actually commented on the entire phone system, from the ivr to the moh.. to the functionality
02:16.55marloweThey love that they can reboot there own router by calling us and using the IVr
02:17.15TomLmoh?
02:17.20TomLoh
02:17.26marlowemusic on hold
02:17.34TomLright
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02:18.09marloweMy nxt project which wont be hard is to let customers know there balance and accepted automated payments.
02:18.11TomLhow do you reboot routers?
02:18.23TomLoh... wait
02:18.26marloweTomL: A lot of code, a lot of work.. It'll be released one day.
02:18.32TomLnetwork power switches and SNMP...
02:18.36marloweno
02:18.41TomLyea,  I could do that
02:18.43TomLno?
02:18.43marloweIt depends on the customer
02:18.59marloweand what equipment they have
02:19.07TomLso yo don't just power cycle?
02:19.11DEEZEDwhats the cheapest sip phone or ata?
02:19.12marloweno
02:19.18TomLwhat about issues that need a power cycle? it happens
02:19.23marlowePhysically login to the router and reboot it.. if that fails.. then power cycle
02:19.44TomLhow does your IVR power cycle them?
02:19.49iCEBrkrDEEZED: why? what'cha looking to do?
02:20.02DEEZEDsomething to replace eyebeam (xlite)
02:20.04DEEZED=)
02:20.16marloweTomL: Custom made by an employee
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02:20.26TomLI mean, physically
02:20.28iCEBrkrDEEZED: Pick up a cheap-o Grandstream BT100
02:20.40x9-maxyea thats a gerat sip phone
02:20.42TomLcycling power requires controlling a relay at the minimum
02:20.45x9-maxfor the price lol
02:20.49iCEBrkrx9-max: hehe
02:20.49marloweCorrect
02:21.04iCEBrkrx9-max: It works fine.. just feels like it's made with tinker-toys
02:21.04marloweIt's a circuit board that controls a relay
02:21.12DEEZEDoh yeah i saw that... whats a good website to buy from?
02:21.18marloweYou connect to the circuit board via IP, web or serial
02:21.26x9-maxhaha yea i was a lil scared when i unboxed mine thinking it would last a week
02:21.37iCEBrkrDEEZED: You can try voxilla.com
02:21.49marlowei think i have the specs here if you want to see.. one sec
02:21.52DEEZEDcool thanks man
02:21.56iCEBrkrx9-max: I still have and use mine.. But I did pick up a SPA-2k shortly after
02:22.26marloweOf course my VPN isnt working.. :-/
02:22.31x9-maxehh, ill wait till mine breaks or i get sick of it and bash it
02:23.23marloweDesigned primarily for power control of POE connected devices. The RPM-LV8 features 8 independently controlled power outputs and 6 short to ground inputs for "A/C on/off" or "door open/closed" type detection. Screw terminals allows for connections to a wide range of  cables and accessories. The device is controlled via a COM cable connected to a computer or modem and works with any terminal program supporting VT100 emulation. The easy to u
02:23.32iCEBrkrhaha
02:23.54marloweWow that's a bit outdated
02:24.49marloweAhh found the specs for it
02:24.53marloweSeems he disspeared though
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02:29.55ZX81hi all
02:30.10ZX81what's up with digium dns today - anyone else having problems?
02:30.19ZX81working now
02:30.20marlowenot I
02:30.34marlowethen again I havent had  to use digium at all today :)
02:30.39ZX81:)
02:30.44ZX81you're no help
02:30.45ZX81:)
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02:31.07marloweWell you're right
02:31.11marloweI can't resolve
02:33.26Faithfuldo zaphfc cards have problems with IRQ sharing?
02:33.51FaithfulI will move it before I start if they do
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02:39.27kksAny recommendation where should I implement LCR in ser or asterisk?
02:42.07ZX81marlowe: :)
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02:42.22ZX81Faithful: better safe than sorry
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02:42.37ZX81if they do 1000 interrupts per second then yes
02:42.44ZX81if not, then probably not
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02:46.16nix000anyone know what is the largest install based of digum and/or * ? and how they are configured ?
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02:47.29Mavvienix000: unless somebody overrules me, I have 2 quad PRI cards :-)
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02:48.35nix000Mavvie, you would think there is a where its used page on digium pages !
02:48.47Mavviewe want to keep it secret.
02:50.09Brixiuszx81, I had issues earlier today.
02:50.15nix000Mavvie, have you seen server configurations for high traffic based on digium cards ?
02:50.16Brixiuswith digium dns that is
02:50.40_VileMav, what box?
02:51.17nix000Mavvie, the sysmaster gateway box seems very nice. How did they do it ?
02:51.18Mavvienot that interesting, it's a pentium 3.4GHz with 1.5Mb of memory.
02:51.23MavvieGb of memory.
02:51.54Mavviehmm... "sip reload" doesn't redo the bind address.
02:51.56_Vilewhat kinda mobo?
02:52.31nix000They are using server blades made out of digium vards.
02:52.32Mavviean Intel one. if you know how to get the information from /proc I'll tell you.
02:52.58nix000cat /proc/cpuinfo ???
02:53.13Mavviethat doesn't show the motherboard.
02:53.18nix000oops that cpu !
02:53.27_Vilecat /proc/ioports
02:53.37_Vilecat /proc/pci
02:53.39_Vile:)
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02:54.52brettcarHello all, might anyone have any idea why'd I'd get the following error when calling $AGI->stream_file('recorded-voice');
02:54.55brettcarUse of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/Asterisk/AGI.pm line 188, <STDIN> line 1.
02:55.16brettcarI looked at the AGI.pm file and I'm pretty clueless as where to look next. I also tried to debug my own code, not sure what is causing it.
02:55.46nix000Mavvie, i need someone to bounce some * gateway config ideas .. you volunteer ?
02:56.03_Vilebrett -> my $variable;
02:56.11Mavvienix000: no
02:56.20nix000tow!
02:57.06nix000anyone ever done a large scale * deploy pleaze raise your hand !
02:57.14brettcar_Vile: I do have all my local variables with 'my' already though.
02:57.36brettcar_Vile: Oh wait, hold on.
02:58.01brettcar_Vile: Found one without my, adding it didn't help though.
02:58.52MajestiKI've got a weird problem, every time I hang up after a call, my phone rings once.  I'm using analog phones on a pap2-na
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02:59.41bkw_FYI folks http://www.acurrentaffair.com/  <-- the jacko poll number there.. is racing thru our asterisk system right now
02:59.54bkw_or should I say serviced by asterisk
03:00.15Qwellugh
03:00.27Qwellacurrentaffair == crap :(
03:00.37bkw_who cares
03:01.18QwellThats cool though
03:01.18Mavviebrilliant poll! "Is Michael Jackson Guilty or Not Guilty?"
03:01.18TomLare you getting paid?
03:01.18nix000i am thinking to deploy multiple (no hdd movingpart) mini-itx based quad PRI setups so that if one of the cards fails i can replace it whithout taking out a whole city. Any idea why that could be wrong
03:01.18Qwellbkw_: How'd you get that info?
03:01.28tessierMavvie: Because we've all heard all of the evidence and can actually have an informed opinion, right?
03:01.32tessierI don't vote in polls like that.
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03:02.11tessierIn polls like "Do you feel Terry Schiavo should live or die?" I can vote because that is asking for something I can have an opinion on. But Jacko? No.
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03:02.17Mavvienix000: smart dialplan and redundant ports.
03:02.23Newbie___hi, any AGI expert here?
03:02.37chapOk... "Is michael jackson an odd man?"   YES! ;)
03:02.38Mavvietessier: :-
03:02.39Mavvietessier: :-)
03:02.41Mavviethat's the one
03:02.52Qwellchap: Give me 5 minutes, and I'll put that poll up. :P
03:04.06tessier"Do you think Michael Jackson might be the sort of person who would might bugger a baby?" YES!
03:04.17DaminLick me..
03:04.28brettcar_Vile: Thanks anyways figured it out.
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03:05.05`SauronTEssier: DO you really think that, or are you just following the leader?
03:05.21nix000Mavvie, we are using areski, and altho i have not played with it yet i think the dial plan is based on the db. as for the redundancy i imagine it is cheaper to keep 2 mini-itx boxes than full blown servers.
03:05.28DEEZEDhey if i want all calls to use my iax.cc, how do i modify this line for iax.cc use? (sixtel is the name in iax.conf) exten => _17XXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(IAX2/jjhall@iaxtel/${EXTEN}@iaxtel)
03:05.50Damindddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
03:05.55Mavvienix000: in theory, with the redundancy, you need as many free ports as you think there will be blow out at once.
03:05.59`SauronDamin fell asleep
03:06.11Newbie___hmmmm
03:06.37Newbie___using agi-egate , how do i make * dial a desire provider like bv ?
03:06.53Brixiusis there a features matrix for stable vs head
03:06.55Damindddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
03:07.29Mavvienix000: so if you have 8 boxes with 4 PRI each and you expect that two will burn out at once, you need eight spare ports which makes that you need 10 boxes with 3 used PRI ports and one free.
03:07.47Mavvieand if one burns out, you juggle the PRI links to the new boxes.
03:08.23Mavvie`Sauron: falling asleep on the D? I believe. But going to A with just one single S? No way.
03:08.46`SauronYou'd be surprised.
03:09.07bjohnsonDEEZED: you're going to have to try a little harder than that
03:09.18DEEZEDlmao
03:09.29bjohnsonBrixius: nothing that organized
03:09.36bjohnsonBrixius: you could start one
03:10.33nix000Mavvie, exactly that is what i am triying to minimize ... if every mini-itx contains one pri then i only need a much less number of redeundant server/blades
03:11.18Brixiusbjohnson: thanks
03:12.19DEEZEDbjohnson: can you just tell me what _011. means in exten => _011.,1,Dial(IAX2/****@sixTel/${EXTEN})
03:12.46Mavvienix000: but then you have boxes which never are used unless in an emergency, and then you realize there is something wrong with them.
03:13.10Silik0nit means anything dialed that starts w/ 011
03:13.13dave_7_011. matches any international number
03:13.27nix000Mavvie, never considered that .. but its a good point.
03:13.29DEEZEDoh sweet thx
03:13.38BrixiusDEEZED: it matches anything that starts with 011
03:13.41Silik0nso like check uut the wiki... dialplan paterns are covered there
03:13.53Silik0n~wiki
03:13.55DEEZEDive been reading it all day...
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03:14.01Faithfulguys do i need to run ztcfg everytime before running * ?
03:14.20Silik0nif you dont have modules.conf set to run it when you modprobe the TDM drivers
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03:14.55Silik0nif you like stop asterisk and want to restart it you only need to run it if you changed the Zap configs
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03:17.14FaithfulOk, I am doing zaphfc for the 1st time so I am not savvy with zap !
03:17.41FaithfulImagine running * for 3 months and not knowing zap?
03:18.13bjohnsonDEEZED: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+extensions.conf
03:18.42DEEZEDyes. i am very familiar with that page. Ill read it through again
03:19.28bjohnsonDEEZED: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Dialplan+Patterns
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03:19.50DEEZEDthx
03:20.19bjohnsonDEEZED: and eventually you'll ask about ${EXTEN:1} which is covered here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+variables
03:20.30DEEZEDsweet
03:21.06DEEZEDplease answer this.. what does _ mean in an extension
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03:21.58mithroanyone here using x100p in australia?
03:22.06QwellDEEZED: _ means that the extension should accept wildcards
03:22.28DEEZEDsuch as n, x, or z
03:22.29bjohnsonDEEZED: means it's the start of a pattern match definition
03:23.34SPoon_TSXHi there, I just got a hardare phone and whenever I tried to use the phone to call, I got this message from Asterisk:
03:23.50SPoon_TSXCannot convert G732 to ulaw
03:23.56SPoon_TSXThen the call was dropped.
03:23.58BrixiusDEEZED: you need the _ if you are using n or x or . if you want to match a # exactly, ie 911 you don't need the _
03:23.59SPoon_TSXAny idea?
03:24.37IQ~list
03:24.39jbotone warez list being sent
03:24.52IQhow do we get list of jbot commands?
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03:25.07SPoon_TSXActually the excat message is: channel.c:1764 ast_set_read_format: Unable to find
03:25.07SPoon_TSX<PROTECTED>
03:25.08bjohnsonSPoon_TSX: I don't think * supports g732
03:25.47BrixiusSPoon_TSX, g732 is not a supported codec, use gsm, ulaw,  or alaw and see if it works
03:26.37SPoon_TSXDamn, the phone doesn't allow me to choose the codec, what can I do??
03:26.47Brixiuswhat type of phone is it?
03:26.57SPoon_TSXSayson 480i
03:27.32bjohnsonsee if they have a firmware update to get it to support something else
03:27.46bjohnsonfirst time I've heard of something not supporting ulaw
03:28.43SPoon_TSXOr, do I need to enter something to force it to use ulaw in SIP.CONF?
03:28.45FaithfulSo far zaphfc seems to work MUCH better than i4l
03:29.01DEEZEDheh finally got it to work... created an outgoing contest with my iax trunk, and then i created a sip context and did a "include = outgoing"
03:29.12DEEZEDgot im a noob.. but finally i got outgoing working
03:29.57nix000is there a way one could hook the digium cards back to back and test it by driving both ends of the call ?
03:30.36Shido6yes
03:30.39Shido6nix
03:30.41BrixiusI vagly remember being there, the zap configuration is somewhat confusing at first since the file format isn't like the rest of the * config files.
03:31.07Brixiusnix, x-over t1 cable
03:31.25Shido6yep
03:31.31nix000Shido6, Brixius so you could have asterisk driving both ends.
03:31.46nix000even on the same card ?
03:31.54Shido6yes
03:32.07Shido6what are you up to?
03:32.07sivanawoot
03:33.15BrixiusIs g.711 ulaw or alaw?
03:33.27Brixiusor neither
03:33.43nix000Shido6, i just want to test my setup before i take it in production. in a real telco env. Mind you i still dont have the cards with me yet !
03:34.58Shido6711
03:34.59Shido6is ulaw
03:35.04Shido6g.711 is ULAW
03:35.09Shido6g711 is ULA
03:35.12Brixiusok, thanks
03:35.54Shido6nix000 use greg@nufone.net when u get em or ring us and we'll help you out
03:35.55nix000Shido6, fwiw i am also looking for someone who did large scale * deployment. for example any idea on the gateway configurations ?
03:36.08BrixiusSPoon_TSX: Looks like your phone will do ulaw then if you set it to g.711
03:36.22Shido6funny
03:36.29SPoon_TSXBrixius: But how?
03:36.36Brixius"G.711 m/A and G.729A (Annex B) configuration" <-- from there sip tech specs.
03:36.38Shido6ever heard of NuFone? We off support at $85/hr
03:37.00Shido6if ya need g729 you can buy licenses from Digium at $10/ds0
03:37.46BrixiusSPoon: are you allowing ulaw and alaw in your sip.conf file
03:37.58SPoon_TSXBrixius: So I need to enforce it on my sip.com. btw, I allow=all.
03:38.56Shido6disallow=all
03:38.58Shido6allow=ulaw
03:39.01Shido6in both the user
03:39.02Shido6and peer
03:39.18Shido6disallow=all says HEY DAMNIT ALLOW NOTHING!!!!!
03:39.28Shido6then allow=ulaw says OK ....... ALLOW ULAW ONLY!!!
03:39.36*** part/#asterisk JohnnyD (~passionfr@203-217-21-234.perm.iinet.net.au)
03:39.40Shido6that forces ulaw so make sure the phone is set to use ulaw
03:39.47Shido6or you'll get adverse effects :)
03:40.16BrixiusSPoon: I havn't found any configuration documentation for your phone, was just looking for the specs.
03:40.36Shido6what phone?
03:40.44fugitivois any way to setup voicemail timeout?
03:40.55Shido6what do you mean by voicemail timeout, fugitivo ?
03:41.53fugitivoi mean, record the voicemail for 20 sec, and hungup
03:42.07fugitivoor do whatever i want to do after the 20 sec
03:42.55Shido620 second limit on voicemail
03:42.56Shido6?
03:42.59fugitivoyes
03:43.18Shido6; Minimum length of a voicemail message in seconds
03:43.18Shido6;minmessage=3
03:43.29Shido6; Maximum length of a voicemail message in seconds
03:43.30Shido6;maxmessage=180
03:43.37Shido6in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf
03:43.49fugitivothanks, i was looking in the wrong file :)
03:43.55Shido6do you have multiple companys on your asterisk box?
03:44.11fugitivono
03:44.15Shido6good to go
03:44.17Shido6set it
03:44.20Shido6and forget it
03:44.24Shido6yay!!!!
03:44.39Shido6if its a live system
03:44.46Shido6unload app_voicemail.so
03:44.47Shido6then
03:44.51Shido6load app_voicemail.so
03:44.57Shido6then the .conf gets reparsed
03:45.34fugitivothanks!
03:49.02Mavvie"reload app_voicemail.so" will reload the configuration too.
03:49.17Mavvieunload and load actually removed and reloads the whole module :-)
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03:49.27Juxtgood afternoon
03:49.34Juxti mean good nite :-)
03:50.04Juxtis it possible to send a fax via a termination carrier like livevoip?
03:50.11Mavviealways funny that mantis.
03:50.19MavvieJuxt: yes. pray :-)
03:50.47Juxtso it's been done :-)
03:50.49BrixiusSPoon: Here's what I found on the wiki - http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Aastra+480i
03:50.50sivanaJuxt: less than 10% success rate for faxing through general internet traffic
03:50.57MavvieJuxt: no. didn't pray hard enough.
03:51.39*** join/#asterisk [hC] (~turnerd@c-69-180-109-192.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
03:51.40Juxtso what's a better way of doing this
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03:51.55sivanaJuxt: don't fax over IP :)
03:52.08Juxtwell not really a possibility
03:52.10MavvieJuxt: http://www.soft-switch.org/foip.html
03:52.13[hC]Ive done fax over ip, it seems usable. maybe i just havent done it enough
03:52.18[hC]i just connected it to a sipura.
03:52.19[hC]heh
03:52.41sivana[hC]: over the general internet?
03:52.56sivanaI find that hard to believe, fax me :)
03:53.16MavvieJuxt: but like others said: get a loooooow latency, a clear channel and it will work.
03:53.17[hC]hey, has anyone come up with a decent solution for wanting a cisco 7960 and a cordless phone registered to the same sip extension? (I have a cisco desk phone, but i also want a cordless phone for when im around the house, heh)
03:53.31[hC]sivana: no, t1 PRI in, then * -> sipura -> fax machine
03:53.33Mavvie[hC]: follow me.
03:53.37Shido6dood
03:53.45Shido6you dont "register" them to the same extension
03:53.51[hC]Yes I realize.
03:53.51[hC]heh,
03:53.53Shido6you register them as different users and peers
03:54.02Shido6but you can have the same extension dialed ring them both
03:54.06Shido6and whichever you pick up
03:54.10[hC]Yeah I know
03:54.11Shido6will take the call
03:54.13Shido6ok :)
03:54.16Juxtwell seems like store and forward might work
03:54.16Shido6so whats up?
03:54.20[hC]well
03:54.33Shido6I have my IAXy and one of the lines on my crisco to ring when u dial ext 3000
03:54.35sivanaJuxt: I doubt it
03:54.55MavvieJuxt: to be honest, we do it here via one of our uplinks. 15ms between us and them and 95+% of them work fine.
03:54.56sivanaJuxt: wait, what do you mean store and forward?
03:55.20[hC]There's a headset jack on the 7960, i was curious if anyone had done anything creative with that i guess, doing a dial double sip kinda sucks if one extension isnt registered or something, or if one was forwarded and not the other, or something. I might just configure a group with both sip exts.
03:55.22Juxtsorry wasn't for you
03:55.29Juxti was mumbling about the fax
03:55.42sivanayou really need a good QoS for any kind of useable success rate
03:55.44[hC]What im really curious about is if anyone has combined the 7960 and a plantronics headset lifter in conjunction with a bluetooth headset somehow
03:55.53Shido6ahhhhh
03:55.56sivanaand over the general internet isn't it
03:56.00[hC]maybe if there is some sort of rj11->bluetooth adapter
03:56.06Shido6there's a bluetooth headset for the crisco
03:56.11[hC]but then the bt headset would have to trigger the lifter
03:56.16[hC]there is?
03:56.22[hC]damn rights! any idea on what its called?
03:56.29Shido6tehy use it on the "Hit Fox TV Show, 24"  ( yes I get paid to advertise 24 )
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03:56.40[hC]Wow, me too!
03:56.41[hC](not really)
03:56.44Juxtgood nite
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03:56.48Shido6(wakes up)
03:57.25[hC]I wanted to use the same headset i use w/ my cellphone..
03:57.28[hC]I'll look it up..
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04:01.32Shido6i got it, stdby
04:02.17Half_DomeCan * run on SuSe 9.1?
04:02.17MrBelvedrto get the most current stable version would the command be: cvs checkout -r v1-0 zaptel libpri asterisk asterisk-addons asterisk-sounds
04:03.01Silik0nwhy would it not run on suse?
04:03.23Half_DomeJust figured I'd ask as I'm struggling
04:03.29[hC]hm. I found one from GN Netcom
04:03.48[hC]bad sound quality review..
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04:04.32TheSinlo all
04:04.57Silik0nHalf_Dome: is it fialing to compile or something else?
04:05.00TheSinI'm switching from a cisco 3600 PRI card to a digium wcte11xp
04:05.16Shido6yeAAAAAAAAyuh!
04:05.20TheSinand once configured and running incoming calls look like this in asterisk
04:05.23Shido6(Lil John, getting VoIP)
04:05.24NatRHNew Voicepulse TOS just arrived in email.... :(
04:05.27TheSin-- Extension '' in context 'incoming' from '!' does not exist.  Rejecting call on channel 0/1, span 1
04:05.36TheSinanyone ever see that or know how to fix it?
04:05.40Shido6ay to go TheSin
04:05.51Shido6wwwwww
04:05.52Shido6WWWWWW
04:05.54TheSin:P
04:06.07Silik0nput your configs in a pastebin and post the url someone will look at it
04:06.10[hC]Shido6: you dont know the model number of the bluetooth headset for the cisco do you?
04:06.13x9-maxheh they lowered per min price :)
04:06.34NatRHDID - $11 / month
04:06.39x9-maxyea not bad
04:06.43TheSinSilik0n, was that for me?
04:06.51Half_DomeSilik0n: I'm pretty sure I've compiled.  I don't know where to go next.  I can't find samples.  When I run asterisk -c I get error while loading shared libraries and somthing about res_features.so
04:06.57Silik0nTheSinYes
04:06.59TheSinif so which confs do you want just zapata.conf?
04:07.43Silik0nboth zaptel and zapata /.confs, anand maybe even the relevant contextfrom ext.cong (with any senative data stripped
04:07.56TheSink
04:08.00TheSin!pastebot
04:08.37Silik0npastebin.ca
04:08.41pigpenAnyone online that can tell me what the following errors are:
04:08.42pigpenMar 29 22:06:48 WARNING[3078]: channel.c:2115 ast_channel_make_compatible: No path to translate from IAX2/NuFone@198.22.67.70:4569/1(2) to SIP/mark-066f(256)
04:08.43pigpenMar 29 22:06:48 WARNING[3078]: app_dial.c:1006 dial_exec: Had to drop call because I couldn't make IAX2/NuFone@198.22.67.70:4569/1 compatible with SIP/mark-066f
04:08.43pigpen<PROTECTED>
04:08.43pigpen<PROTECTED>
04:08.51TheSinsweet .ca
04:08.52Silik0ncode mismatch
04:08.58Silik0ncodec even
04:08.58TheSinthanks Silik0n
04:09.02Silik0ndamned laptop keyboard
04:09.23pigpenSilik0n: regarding my error?
04:09.28Silik0npigpenyes
04:09.45Silik0nyou dont have a codec thats common to nufone's enabled codec enabled
04:09.45pigpenok...so what do you think would cause this...it had been working fine...
04:10.02Silik0nand/or you dont have the correct transcoder
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04:10.19pigpenI have purchased 4 G729 codecs...with 4 polycoms...
04:10.19Silik0nchange enabled codecs on your phone?
04:10.27pigpenbut, I added 1 sipura...
04:10.42Silik0nsips have g729
04:10.54`SauronHum.
04:11.06SPoon_TSXHello there, I got some problem with my SIP Phone. I can call out no problem but I got drop call after the first few seconds. And I got the message from the Asterisk as below:
04:11.11pigpenmaybe the g729 codecs are in use...and mine cannot connect?
04:11.18SPoon_TSX<PROTECTED>
04:11.23TheSinhttp://pastebin.ca/8460
04:11.31`Sauronwhy does "show translation" show that going TO ilbc from anything costs > 20ms, while going FROM ilbc to anything is 5-9ms?
04:11.33SPoon_TSXMy rxgain=2.5/txgain=-1.0
04:11.36Silik0nwell if you are doing 729 to nuphone and you are just passing it thru you dont need a lic
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04:11.45SPoon_TSXAny idea?
04:11.46davidhello
04:11.53pigpenSilik0n: I am actually doing iax to nufone...
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04:12.19Shido6im on a mission
04:12.23Silik0niax has nothing to do with how the voice is encoded
04:12.23libpcphi all
04:12.24davidI'm seeing signicifant latency with meetme, but not with anything else
04:12.27Shido6to find out what wireless headsets they use on 24
04:12.29pigpenbut I get this if I try to call voicemail:
04:12.31pigpenMar 29 22:12:26 NOTICE[3078]: channel.c:1691 ast_set_write_format: Unable to find a path from gsm to g729
04:12.31pigpenMar 29 22:12:26 WARNING[3078]: file.c:779 ast_streamfile: Unable to open vm-login (format g729): No such file or directory
04:12.31pigpenMar 29 22:12:26 WARNING[3078]: app_voicemail.c:3347 vm_execmain: Couldn't stream login file
04:12.31pigpen<PROTECTED>
04:12.33davidare there any known latency issues specificly with meetme?
04:12.53Shido6do u have licenses for g729?
04:12.54Shido6if not
04:12.58Shido6its not gonna work
04:13.00pigpenI have 4...
04:13.10pigpenso I guess I will force my phone to G711
04:13.18pigpenfor now until I buy more...
04:13.30TheSinBTW Silik0n I also see...
04:13.31TheSinMar 29 21:13:21 WARNING[3629]: chan_zap.c:7143 zt_pri_error: PRI: received SETUP message for call that is not a new call, wicked!!!
04:13.42TheSinlove the asterisk warn/err msgs :D
04:13.49Silik0nTheSin are you sure you have the right switch type?
04:13.56TheSinI've tried them all
04:14.04TheSinon cisco I used ni1
04:14.08Silik0nwhats the ciscoconfigs like?
04:14.10TheSinbut I'm sure it was ni2
04:14.19Silik0nok ni1 is ni != ni2
04:14.19TheSinbut cisco doesn't have ni2
04:14.20[hC]Hm. it seems possible that it could be the plantronics m2500 coupled with the hl10 handset lifter
04:14.26SPoon_TSXHello everyone. for some reason I got all my incoming call dropped on excatly 3 seconds.
04:14.33SPoon_TSXAny idea?
04:14.37Silik0nni1is ni1 national on asterisk is ni2
04:14.47TheSinyup
04:14.52TheSinand I tried both
04:14.57TheSinand dms100 just incase
04:15.02TheSinthat is what I used in ONT
04:15.06TheSinI'm in AB now
04:15.36Silik0nbeats me...those configs look right unless they are doingsomethingscrewy with the pri
04:16.09TheSinall the ztcfg, zttest and ztmonitor stuff looks great too
04:16.22Silik0noh did you set a spanmap?
04:16.35TheSinwhen I dial out I get an error from my telco saying the number I dialed couldn't be completed as dialed
04:16.43TheSinno do I need to?
04:16.54Silik0ntry that
04:17.07TheSinwhat shoudl it be 1,1,1?
04:17.11Silik0nabout like 175 of your zapata.conf
04:17.22Silik0n1,1,1 should work fine or 1,1,0
04:18.01TheSinMar 29 21:17:53 WARNING[3732]: loader.c:345 ast_load_resource: chan_zap.so: load_module failed, returning -1
04:18.02Silik0nor do trunkgroup right above that... spanmapreally shouldntbeneeded
04:18.09TheSinfor both 1,1,1 and 1,1,0
04:18.34Silik0ni dunno it should just work as you had it
04:18.43Shido6http://www.iguarddirect.com/selection.htm
04:18.50Shido6not quite a headset
04:19.27[hC]http://wireless.engadget.com/entry/1234000083032441/
04:19.48[hC]This so far (GN Netcom 6210) is the only one ive found thats bluetooth, but has a cradle so you can connect it to the headset jack of the phone
04:20.15Shido6200 bucks for the headset
04:20.26TheSinSilik0n, could it be perms on /dev/zap ?
04:20.47[hC]I dont see anything about headsets on iguarddirect.com, heh
04:20.53Silik0ndoubt it
04:21.03TheSinasterisk only has read perms to it
04:21.09TheSinand execute not write
04:21.19Shido6Silik0n ?
04:21.24[hC]I guess the GN netcom is the only one that is bluetooth with the actual headset jack ability
04:21.30[hC]as opposed to just a plain old headset.
04:21.34Silik0n?
04:21.39Silik0nShido6 yes
04:21.51Shido6the headsets are 200
04:22.02Silik0ni wasnt talking to you
04:22.11Silik0ni was answering a question from above your comment
04:22.21Shido6ok
04:22.23Shido6donut?
04:25.10FuriousGeorgeif the box i have asterisk on is doing the QoS stuff i wouldnt need a voip router, right?  but i still need a firewall b/w  and the net, no?  wouldnt it be bad to have my  box do QoS, Firewall, and be a pbx?
04:25.23`SauronA "voip router" ?
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04:25.30FuriousGeorgeu know what i mean
04:25.51`SauronI don't.
04:26.14`Sauronbut my box is a firewall, router and * server
04:26.25FuriousGeorgesorry, linksys and the bunch make routers with modular rj11 jacks for home use.  i assume that it does VoIP QoS, or it would be pretty useless
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04:26.55FuriousGeorgei giess it wouldnt be useless, b/c most people dont want to buy themselves an FXO
04:27.19PTG1234yes
04:27.25PTG1234the qos is gonna be the best on it
04:28.14FuriousGeorge`Sauron:  so you  box is at the head of the internet.  i have a buddy who was telling me my  server shouldnt be the firewall b/c "it takes all the crap"
04:28.20FuriousGeorgehow do i keep making stuff bold
04:28.22FuriousGeorgelol
04:28.30`SauronI love how everybody talks about QoS across the internet-at-large, when the whole concept is nothing but a huge oxymoron.
04:28.38FuriousGeorgeanyway, this buddy knows much more about *nix than me.  so i took his word for it
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04:29.20FuriousGeorge`Sauron, im not taling about over the internet at large, im taking about out from my network to the internet.  what made you think otherwise
04:30.03`SauronGeorge: If you leave your network, it has to go somewhere. This place is on the internet-at-large, where you have absolutely no control over any quality of anything...
04:30.06Newbie___using agi-egate , how do i make * dial a desire provider like bv ?
04:30.34`SauronSure, you can fiddle the TOS bits, and sure you can tweak your packet size, but really... There's nothing you can do.
04:30.46dmccollumQoS works well with a MPLS network between offices. QoS also does help a bit over the internet since it put the outgoing packets in priority.
04:30.48`Saurons/nothing/extremely little.
04:31.08`Saurondmccollum: And how many ISP's do you know that honor end-user TOS bits?
04:31.16FuriousGeorge`Sauron:  i realise that, but surely you would not recommend me run a business IP  PBX w/ no QoS
04:31.27FuriousGeorgeend user TOS bits.  i gotta remember that
04:31.35FuriousGeorgefor when i shor around
04:32.06pigpenok..looks like I need to buy some more codecs...on to the next issue )
04:32.27dmccollumnot many ISP's do anything with the QoS, but you can still help the quality a bit by controlling what goes out on your end.
04:32.35`SauronSigh.
04:33.16`SauronY'all do whatever you think is best. I'll venture a guess that the first edge router your packets get to, tosses out your TOS bits, and dumps your traffic in with the rest of the bulk traffic.
04:34.29`SauronQoS on the internet is a joke, unless you own the company that runs the backbone. End of story.
04:34.56pigpenI have deployed an fxo...dialing that number, the fxo (sipura 3000) passes the call to asterisk on extention 99...which passes it to my extention...
04:35.16pigpenonce to voice mail...all works fine...voice is recorded...
04:35.30pigpenHowever, when I pick up the call...no voice either direction....
04:35.39pigpenideas?
04:39.47Mavvie`Sauron: own pipes rule :-)
04:40.21`SauronMavvie: yup
04:40.26Mavvieowning pipes too, but that's a little bit too low-tech for me :-)
04:40.48Silik0nlaying pipe rules
04:40.48FuriousGeorge`Sauron:  how much overhead do u get from running your firewall on your asterisk box
04:41.09`SauronNone that I can notice.
04:41.16FuriousGeorge`Sauron:   and how can someone as knowledgeable as you not have heard of the VoIP routers.
04:41.26FuriousGeorgeor do u just callem something else
04:41.41pigpensip proxy?
04:41.43Silik0nVoIP routers? is that like a broadband riuter w/ a built in ATA?
04:41.50FuriousGeorgeyup
04:42.00pigpeniptables is very light...
04:42.00FuriousGeorgeyou get one with the proprietary services
04:42.14Silik0nPF rocks tho
04:42.18fugitivofxs?
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04:42.36fugitivoSilik0n: i agree
04:42.44pigpenso my issue above....think it is a sipura issue?
04:42.52Silik0ntransparent bridge filtering ++
04:43.04Silik0nwith statfeful inspection and shaping
04:43.08FuriousGeorgemy folks got aTT callvantage, and i disconnected the POTS line from their NID and just took some cat 3 from the rj-11 port on the thing and put it in a wall jack, and voila
04:43.27Shido6voip routers?
04:43.31FuriousGeorgelol
04:43.32Silik0nand normalization and mix nat w/ that on one bridge interface from a 3rd NIC
04:43.37fugitivoand the syntax of pf, is just clear
04:43.46Shido6i think I have an email from a wholesaler
04:43.49Silik0nyeah it is
04:44.01Silik0ndhartmeier is a genious
04:44.14Silik0nbut pf's syntax was lifted from IPF
04:44.19fugitivoif you look a pf.conf file, it's art
04:44.29Silik0nfugitivo you should see mine ;)
04:44.30FuriousGeorgeshido6:  what do you call a router with an rj11 port on the back which is designed for viop services
04:44.51fugitivoSilik0n: :)
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04:45.06pigpenresidential equipment?
04:45.37FuriousGeorgenot bad, but i still think voip router is more descriptive
04:45.52Shido6u call it a linksys
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04:45.58`SauronUmm.
04:46.00Silik0nits more of a router w/ integrated ATA
04:46.04`SauronIt's a router with an FXS port
04:46.13`Sauronas such, it's... yeah
04:46.16pigpenexactly...
04:46.19FuriousGeorgesilik0n:  still doesnt roll off the toungue just right
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04:46.48fugitivoi have one of those things, but i call it fxs
04:46.48Silik0nyeah and "NIC Card" does right?
04:46.53Silik0nhah
04:47.12mick_hastingshi folks
04:47.18IQhi mick_hastings
04:47.27Shido6do you need one?
04:47.40mick_hastingscan anyone tell me how to patch the stable 1.0.7 so I can use forcegreetings in voicemail?
04:47.55`SauronSigh
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04:47.56Shido6PAP2-NA
04:48.06ManxPowermick_hastings: read the asterisk-cvs mailing list to see what change was made to it
04:48.07Shido6I get em for 52.50
04:48.08fugitivothat one
04:48.10Silik0npeople saying "NIC Card" annoys me
04:48.12`SauronGeorge: Call it whatever you want, I don't care.
04:48.12fugitivoworks fine with asterisk
04:48.17`Sauronand yes, I've heard of them
04:48.20Shido6or 200 for 10,500
04:48.29Silik0nPAP2s are nice
04:48.41fugitivogreat design
04:48.43Shido6u need one?
04:48.45FuriousGeorgesilikon:  why?  b/c its redundant?  what about just NIC
04:48.46fugitivosilver
04:48.48Silik0ni gotta few
04:48.50fugitivowith blue leds
04:48.56`Sauronsexy
04:49.05Silik0nFuriousGeorge because its redundant redundant
04:49.11`SauronWhy is it that anything with blue led's is automatically sexy?
04:49.17Silik0nthats like "PIN Number"
04:49.21fugitivobecause blue leds are sexy
04:49.37fugitivowe're tired of red and green leds
04:49.39FuriousGeorgepersonally, im more of a sucker for gui's w/ x-parency
04:49.43FuriousGeorgeliek KDE's
04:49.52mick_hastingsThanks Manx
04:49.55mick_hastingsbut
04:50.16mick_hastingsdo you mean modifying the source?
04:50.23mick_hastingsmanually?
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04:53.18FuriousGeorgeu guys know what i hate more than anything in the world?  those autoattendants that respond to voice instead of hitting buttons.  is that available to asterisk?
04:53.37fugitivovoicexml?
04:53.44pigpenisn't that festival?
04:53.51fugitivono, festival is a tts
04:53.55FuriousGeorgepigpen:  dont know but sounds fun
04:53.59fugitivohe means speech recognition
04:54.15FuriousGeorgei do
04:54.27`SauronIF you hate it so much, why do you want it?
04:54.28ManxPowermick_hastings: Of course.  Official stable 1.0.x does NOT get new features
04:54.28pigpenshit...don't listen to me...I can't even get this dam spa 3000 working...
04:54.33`SauronJealous? :)
04:55.10fugitivoFuriousGeorge: search for sphinx-4, maybe you can do something
04:55.36FuriousGeorge`Sauron:  im gonna get my pound of flesh from all those other basterds who have one.  Seriously, I dont want one, but they seem to be the new fad so i was wondering if it worked w/ *
04:56.02FuriousGeorgefugitivo:  thanks
04:56.04pigpendam George...you are Furious...
04:56.08mick_hastingsManxPower: I thought that was why they invented patches? Im trying to find the info on asterisk-cvs now
04:56.17FuriousGeorgepigpen:  thanks for noticing
04:56.23pigpen:)
04:57.00fugitivoFuriousGeorge: it's a good technology, those who can't see, can surf the web and read mails
04:57.18fugitivoFuriousGeorge: from a phone
04:58.07FuriousGeorgefugitivo:  thats certainly a noble cause.  i just hate talking to machines.  kinda ironic, huh
04:58.19FuriousGeorgeof course im not blind, if i were im sure it would be different
04:58.33FuriousGeorgei didnt even start leaving voicemails till i was like 17
04:58.40MrBelvedrif anyone wants to help me as a paid consultant for a few hours work please pm me
04:59.08Sedoroxdepends what kinda work :-p
04:59.18mick_hastingsOK, now this sounds stoopid but where is asterisk-cvs mailing list?
04:59.21pigpenI don't do windows...
04:59.59FuriousGeorgethis is me on the phone with a voice recognition auto attendent:  VRAA:  "I'm sorry, I didnt get that.  Please say..."  "NO...  OPERATOR...  CUSTOMER SUPPORT"
05:00.20FuriousGeorge(then sound of me mashing keypad with hand)
05:01.05fugitivowell, it's not perfect, but it works, i'm waiting for the day where we can talk to computers like jean luc picard talk with the enterprise
05:01.50FuriousGeorgeFugitivo:  im sure there will be a time in the not too distant future where they work well enough that i get pissy when they arent around
05:02.19FuriousGeorgeOPERATOR! (sorry, flashback)
05:02.26fugitivowell, like all technology, you have to use it to make it better
05:03.19FuriousGeorgefugitivo:  like i have a choice ;) ur right, i know
05:03.58FuriousGeorgei was reading somewhere they can judge emotion now
05:05.06FuriousGeorgewonder how...  if keypad=mashed then caller=irrate else connect to operator
05:05.46pigpenok..so does anyone have experience with the Sipura SPA 3000 who can lend me an opinion?
05:06.09IQpigpen: best ATA ever
05:06.14pigpencool.
05:06.35pigpenI have it setup to ring an extention...but I get no audio
05:06.45pigpenIf I leave a message..audio works fine.
05:06.50IQpigpen: using with * ?
05:06.56pigpenyeah.
05:07.04fugitivopigpen: softphone?
05:07.14pigpenno.
05:07.17IQworks great for me... on all my 3 * machines and even SIP Service Providers.
05:07.47pigpenmind looking at my config?
05:08.29IQsure
05:08.34FuriousGeorgethis is somwhat off topic, but has anyone used a bluetooth headset with a computer.
05:09.14IQpigpen: all you need is SIP Proxy, user name, password
05:09.16FuriousGeorgeobviously w/ a softphone
05:11.09FuriousGeorgeguess not, well it doesnt sound so hot, sometimes (ive tried two brands and several windows boxes) when it connects, all u get is static, and sometimes they just stop working
05:11.47FuriousGeorgethe point is:  im looking for an opinion about audio HW to use w/ softphones
05:13.07Sedoroxnight
05:14.11fugitivoFuriousGeorge: i use a crappy $5 headset with my crappy notebook sound card
05:14.39PTG1234FuriousGeorge: USB headsets
05:14.46fugitivoFuriousGeorge: and it's wireless, i can move with my laptop and talk with the sip hone
05:14.49FuriousGeorgefugitivo:  i was thinking along the limes of wireless
05:14.53PTG1234FuriousGeorge: i use bluetooth it works ok, but usb works flawlessly
05:15.16FuriousGeorgeptg123:  usb wired right?  it does work well
05:15.23PTG1234FuriousGeorge: yes
05:15.34PTG1234FuriousGeorge: my bluetooth headset all have their qwirks... i have 3 of them
05:16.04FuriousGeorgei wouldnt mind, but the people who need to use themn arent as tech savy as u or i (emphasis on u)
05:16.15FuriousGeorgethey dont do well with qwirks
05:16.53PTG1234Yah so thats why usb is the best way to go
05:16.58PTG1234alot better then using an internal sound card
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05:17.45pigpenfugitivo: softphone...no trying to setup a spa 3000 as fxo
05:18.12mitmithi, i am new to asterisk and i am setting up my own home server, any good VOIP termination for long distance suggest? thanks
05:18.26DEEZEDi use iax.cc
05:18.41dmccollumI've been very happy with Vonage. Very good quality.
05:18.45Silik0ni use asterlink and nuphone
05:18.58pigpenI use * and nufone
05:19.03FuriousGeorgeptg1234:  do they make some good usb handsets with the curly wire for easier swing aroundedness
05:19.45mitmitthanks -> DEEZED...dmccollum...Silikon,,,will check.....tanks again
05:19.56PTG1234FuriousGeorge: um not that i know of.. plantronics makes some good ones (use the gamer series), logitech makes one decient one, and I got my wife a SennHeiser which is pretty awesome
05:20.07mitmitthanks pigpen
05:21.01FuriousGeorgeptg1234:  but did you ever think about that?  i maen when have you seen a telephone w/o a curly cord?
05:21.10PTG1234i hate curly cords
05:21.14PTG1234they get all twisted :)
05:21.47PTG1234recently i have come to a conclusion nothing beats a cisco 7960 though :)
05:22.06pigpenlike the 7960 better than polycom?
05:22.24FuriousGeorgecurly cords have their benefeits.  the biggest one being efficent use of slack]
05:24.14twistedPTG1234, leave me out of this
05:24.34PTG1234oh the 7960 blows away the polycom, i should know i have both :)
05:24.37PTG1234twisted: why is that?
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05:26.44MrBelvedranybody here using the manager api? i am having a problem when placing outgoing calls. Sometimes the calls go through, sometimes they don't
05:27.19MrBelvedrthe CLI output does not give any errors
05:27.26MrBelvedrso it is hard to debug what is going on
05:28.34MrBelvedri have the latest stable version installed
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05:28.56Silik0nset logger.conf to give debugon the console
05:28.59PoWeRKiLLmorning !
05:29.06pigpenEvening!
05:29.54MrBelvedrk
05:30.03fugitivomorning? its whisky time for me
05:30.35pigpenpast bedtime for me...
05:30.36Corydon76-homeWhisky sounds good
05:30.44Corydon76-homeAs long as it's Jack
05:31.23Corydon76-homeGotta love the local stuff that's brewed in a dry county...
05:31.45fugitivojhonny walker
05:31.51fugitivoblack label
05:32.58PTG1234nah not black
05:32.59PTG1234green
05:33.06fugitivogreen?
05:33.07PTG1234now thats the shit
05:33.10PTG1234Oh yah
05:33.11Newbie___anyone has any experience with AGI dial plan ?
05:33.12PTG1234have you had green?
05:33.23PTG1234its about $500 a bottle
05:33.23fugitivodidn't know there was green
05:33.29PTG1234Oh.. like 30 years old aged
05:33.33PTG1234it is sooooo smoooooth
05:33.41PTG1234not a big fan of johnny walker
05:33.45PTG1234but green label is the shit
05:33.49PTG1234its better then blue
05:34.12pigpengood stress reducer?
05:34.19FuriousGeorgePTG1234:  Scotch tastes too much like wood to me.  Now burbon on the other hand ;)
05:34.26FuriousGeorgethats one expensive phone btw
05:34.29PTG1234http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13916&item=6166885020&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
05:34.38PTG1234FuriousGeorge: i agree with you in general, but the green is something different
05:34.46PTG1234FuriousGeorge: i paid $136 for mine
05:34.52fugitivo#asterisk, where whisky drinkers met
05:34.55Newbie___~agi
05:34.56jbot[agi] the Asterisk Gateway Interface...  similar to CGI for web applications AGI lets you script call control and access databases using your favorite language.  AGI wrappers are available for Python (pyst), Perl (astperl?) and other languages
05:35.07FuriousGeorgetoo bad i aint bartending anymore, ive never tried the green
05:35.11PTG1234that guy has no idea what he has
05:35.13PTG1234maybe i should buy it
05:35.27FuriousGeorgecanadian whiskey is pretty good too
05:35.37PTG1234The four bottles are Green, Blue, Gold, and Black.  The Black label has been aged for 12 years.  The Green has been aged for 15 years and these is the first time I have ever seen the Green label in my life
05:35.44PTG1234see he doesn't understand what green is :)
05:35.58fugitivoanyone here knows something about zaptel code?
05:35.59FuriousGeorgeFOOL
05:35.59PTG1234he thinks blue has been aged
05:36.02PTG1234he is wrong about that
05:36.06PTG1234and has no idea how long green is aged
05:36.11PTG1234he thinks gold is older
05:36.12FuriousGeorgefugitivo:  zaptel?  arent we in #whiskey
05:36.53fugitivoFuriousGeorge: it's #asterisk, but it's funnier after the whiskey :)
05:37.28FuriousGeorgelol
05:37.39PTG1234Mmm
05:37.43PTG1234man i shoul dbid on that set
05:37.49PTG1234but with my luck the bottle would be broken before i get it
05:38.44FuriousGeorgeptg1234:  i didnt know you could buy booze on ebay
05:39.06fugitivoPTG1234: this is luck, breaking my laptop lcd when closing it with little headphones in the keyboard
05:39.32fugitivo*crack*, and no more lcd :)
05:39.40FuriousGeorgethat really burns
05:39.43PTG1234fugitivo: my lcd broken on my notebook a month ago
05:39.53PTG1234it was ok though, was an excuse to buy a new one.. which is AWEEESOME :)
05:40.33fugitivoPTG1234: heh, how did you break it?
05:40.40PTG1234fugitivo: closed it :)
05:40.48PTG1234fugitivo: i guess enough times and it brokens ome ribbon cable
05:40.51PTG1234that cost like $300
05:40.51PTG1234:)
05:40.56fugitivoouch
05:40.59PTG1234stupid design if you ask me
05:41.02PTG1234ribbon cables dry out
05:41.04PTG1234then snap
05:41.20fugitivoi don't close it anymore
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05:41.44PTG1234hehe
05:41.49PTG1234its hard to transport if you don't close it
05:41.55PTG1234its ok i had a good run with it
05:41.56PTG12342 years
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05:42.12PTG1234now i got this pentium M 2ghz w/ a 1920x1200 display, bluetooth, suiper fast hard drive, 1gig ram
05:42.17PTG1234its the speed of a p4 4ghz
05:42.27PTG1234counter-strike plays great at 1920x1200 :)
05:42.33PTG1234and very thin
05:42.47fugitivothat's power
05:43.26fugitivothis one is athlon64 3400+ 1400x1050, fast harddrive, 1gb
05:43.55PTG1234yah sucks the battery life doesn't it :)
05:43.56PTG1234and thick
05:43.56PTG1234heh
05:44.05fugitivo3 hours, it's ok
05:44.06PTG1234i get a good 6 hours of battery life from mine :)
05:44.11fugitivo6???
05:44.15PTG1234yah battery life and size were my main concerns
05:44.17PTG1234yah 6 :)
05:44.21PTG1234pentium M baby
05:44.34fugitivolow power, right?
05:44.37PTG1234this display is insane
05:44.43fugitivono noise?
05:44.44PTG1234yah its a very efficent chip
05:44.46PTG1234no noise
05:44.47PTG1234no fans :)
05:44.51PTG1234it has a fan
05:44.54fugitivothat's great
05:44.55PTG1234kicked on twice that i can remember
05:44.56PTG1234heh
05:45.00fugitivowhat video card?
05:45.14PTG1234ati 9700
05:45.18PTG1234how about yours?
05:45.23fugitivo9600
05:45.35fugitivothat's the noise part, right?
05:45.38PTG1234no
05:45.41PTG1234that has no fan i don't think
05:45.45PTG1234just the main cpu fan
05:45.47PTG1234if it gets too hot
05:45.57fugitivoi think mine has, when i use 3d, i can hear it
05:46.19pigpenPTG1234: hey...would it be a Dell D800?
05:46.20fugitivobut its amd, and its 64bits, its hot and noisy :)
05:46.40PTG1234yah
05:46.44PTG1234i opted away from amd for that
05:46.48PTG1234plus size and battery sucking :)
05:46.51PTG1234um nope a sager
05:46.59PTG1234its the only notebook i could find with such a huge display too
05:47.02pigpencool..where does the integrated bluetooth adaptor go?
05:47.07Faithfulmust you have a sound card installed to use music on hold?
05:47.09PTG12341920x1200 on this little screen is just about perfect
05:47.18PTG1234pigpen: yah bluettoh and 802.11g
05:47.27PTG1234Faithful: no
05:47.31fugitivoPTG1234: you need to get a sb audigy zs pcmcia
05:47.42fugitivoPTG1234: and you're done
05:47.51pigpencool..where does the bluetooth adaptor go...as in I have the adaptor for mine...but I don't know where it goes?  :)
05:48.10PTG1234fugitivo: heh i have a dedicated game machine, so i don't really play games on this
05:48.13PTG1234i just like the idea i can
05:48.27PTG1234pigpen: its underneath a panel on the bottom
05:48.29PTG1234you unscrew i think
05:48.35PTG1234it came installed
05:48.42pigpen3 panels..ah..
05:48.57FaithfulI can't wait to get my bluetooth working
05:48.57pigpenok..I will probably need to call dell...I have searched and searched...
05:49.47PTG1234yah bluetooth works well
05:49.53PTG1234no decient bluetooth mouse i can find though
05:50.18pigpenkensington has a nice small one...with an off switch..
05:50.31pigpenPioltMouse Mini Bluetooth
05:50.38PTG1234i guess i should have said i only like logitechs :)
05:50.42pigpenModel  72414
05:50.42Faithfulanyone got the jabra bt200 working yet?
05:50.45PTG1234i want that laser mouse
05:50.54PTG1234i got the perfect wireless mouse, its tiny by logitech
05:50.56pigpenI got a logitech bluetooth too...
05:50.57PTG1234but needs this dongle
05:51.05fugitivoPTG1234: what os have you intalled?
05:51.06PTG1234Faithful: i run a bt200 on this thing
05:51.20pigpenok..one last try on this dam sipura 3000....
05:51.24PTG1234fugito: xp, with freebs drunning in vmware, ifacing through humingbird exceed
05:51.42fugitivoPTG1234: pentium m is still 32bit, right?
05:51.43FaithfulPTG1234: and you have it set up as an extension?
05:52.23PTG1234Faithful: extension what do you mean?
05:52.32PTG1234fugitivo: no idea, it is fast though :)
05:52.40Faithfulan extension in *
05:52.41PTG1234i don't go into that 64bit hype
05:52.53fugitivolinux runs great in 64bit
05:52.56pigpenI am running gentoo linux on mine...
05:53.02fugitivome too
05:53.07pigpenok...spa 3000 didn't work...I give up.
05:53.17pigpenfugitivo: you gentoo ?
05:53.32fugitivoi started working with opteron servers and gentoo, then i bought this 64bit laptop just to use gentoo :)
05:53.37fugitivopigpen: yep
05:53.44pigpencool...amd I see...
05:53.46MrBelvedrthanks silk
05:53.53pigpenmy business partner is a kern dev for gentoo...
05:53.58FaithfulPTG1234:  what are you using the bt200 for ?
05:54.25Shido6is it a ferrari, fugitivo
05:54.28Shido6?
05:54.38fugitivoShido6: no, hypersonic ax6
05:54.40PTG1234Faithful: softphone
05:55.01fugitivoeverything works, except the memory stick reader
05:55.04MrBelvedri have narrowed it down.  If I start up asterisk and originate a call using the Manager API the first call is placed perfectly. Every call after the first one looks like it goes out ok on the CLI, but in reality the phone being called never rings
05:55.15PTG1234everything works in xp for me, including the camera :)
05:55.18FaithfulPTG1234: o, with your pc?
05:55.19PTG1234it has a video camera in it
05:55.27fugitivoPTG1234: built in?
05:55.35PTG1234yah
05:55.36PTG1234let me show you
05:55.57PTG1234http://www.sagernotebook.com/pages/notebooks/product.cfm?ProductType=3790
05:56.00fugitivoPTG1234: well, it's obvious everything is going to work in xp, not in linux :)
05:56.03PTG1234see the little tiny dot at the top of the screen
05:56.09PTG1234fugitivo: run liux in vmware :)
05:56.12PTG1234works great
05:56.12PTG1234heh
05:56.17fugitivoi don't like windows
05:56.20fugitivoi don't use it
05:56.29fugitivoat all
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05:57.20fugitivoyou have 1920x1200 with 15.4???
05:57.21PTG1234man
05:57.25PTG1234yah fug
05:57.28PTG1234heh
05:57.32PTG1234its awesome
05:57.39fugitivoisn't it too tiny?
05:57.43PTG1234not for me
05:57.46PTG1234i would have it smaller if i could
05:58.45fugitivo4 speakers
05:59.00fugitivomy speakers sucks
05:59.03PTG1234th e speakers kind of suck if you ask me
05:59.07PTG1234yah they all do on notebooks
05:59.08PTG1234:)
05:59.12fugitivoall notebook speakers sucks :)
05:59.37PTG1234although i couldn't imagine this notebook having anything else
05:59.40PTG1234it seems to have everything
05:59.56fugitivowhat brand is the integrated webcam?
06:00.03PTG1234no clue
06:00.07fugitivointel i suppose
06:00.12PTG1234i can't even find someone with one to do a teleconferene with
06:00.19fugitivoit's not expensive at all
06:00.45fugitivomy logitech webcam for notebook doesn't work stable with linux :(
06:00.57PTG1234for manuyfacture
06:00.59PTG1234it says VM
06:01.17PTG1234i was told just about everything worked with linux on this one
06:01.19PTG1234and yah
06:01.21PTG1234$1800 full loaded
06:01.24PTG1234is what i paid
06:01.26PTG1234er fully
06:01.33fugitivoit's a great price
06:02.20PTG1234yah i was happy :)
06:02.25PTG1234made it ok my old one bit the dust
06:02.33fugitivoi have the same wireless card
06:02.42fugitivoi had some problems with old kernel versions
06:02.55fugitivobut now it works better perfect
06:03.58PTG1234yah
06:04.04PTG1234i had some problems with earlier xp drivers
06:04.07PTG1234with my wireless card
06:04.19fugitivoVideo Processor Colling Vents
06:04.28fugitivocheck the gallery
06:05.02fugitivoyou have 2 fans, cpu and video
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06:08.32PTG1234http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=369&item=6166983969&rd=1
06:08.37PTG1234that must be some good stuff
06:08.45PTG1234fugitivo: yah i believe it they never come on
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06:15.48Newbie___is it possible to dial skype from asterisk box ?
06:16.47Newbie___nevermind that
06:16.51clive-does anyone know what this means: AGI Script astcc.agi completed, returning 0
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06:25.33yaboocan a users voicemail number be the same as the users extenstion?
06:25.51Shido6not quite
06:25.57yaboook
06:26.04Shido6you CAN make it the same
06:26.11Shido6if the user dials his own extension
06:26.14Shido6from HIS/HER own phone
06:26.16yabooso e.g. if there extension is 3004, best to do voicemail like 7004?
06:26.30Shido6extension is 3000
06:26.38yaboook, but not from another number
06:26.44Shido6and if he or she dials his OWN extension
06:26.53Shido6he / she can get their voicemail
06:27.00Shido6and voicemail will know its them and login
06:27.07Shido6to their own vmail
06:27.11Shido6with ANI
06:27.19yaboook, by the digit password
06:37.23firestrmis it possible to set the gain of each channel of a tdm400 seperately?
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06:51.22CaptChrishello all
06:52.38CaptChrisi'm looking for some help in configuring Asterisk
06:52.58CaptChrisis anyone available to help?
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06:56.01Shido6sure
06:56.03Shido6whats up?
06:56.08CaptChrisi seem to have Asterisk configured partway
06:56.11Shido6ok
06:56.18Shido6what do you want to do with asterisk?
06:56.24CaptChrisi can connect to the server from a remote machine using X-Lite...
06:56.29Shido6good
06:56.33Shido6(drum roll)
06:56.33Shido6but
06:56.34Shido6?
06:56.44CaptChrisbut can't seem to connect with X-Lite on the local server machine.
06:57.01Shido6ok
06:57.03CaptChrisok. yes
06:57.05Shido6when do you want to get started?
06:58.26CaptChriswell... that's not exactly what i was hoping for.
06:59.12Shido6all you want is sip setup
06:59.13Shido6?
06:59.28Shido6or do you want to go through asterisk dialplan logic, voicemail extensions, setting up routes
06:59.36Shido6for the complete hour
06:59.37CaptChrisi can tell you that X-Lite is configured exactly the same on both the remote and local (server) machine. while only the remote X-Lite can connect
06:59.56CaptChrisyes, just sip
06:59.56Shido6ok
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07:34.20Alexi1hello all
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07:51.01MuppetMasterHello.
07:51.19zoaHe L L o
07:51.20MuppetMasterDoes anyone know the cost of embedding Asterisk into another application?  As to what the license fees are that would need to be paid to Digium?
07:51.33zoacontact sales@digium.com for that
07:51.54MuppetMasterUnderstood.  But no details elsewhere?
07:51.59zoano
07:52.04zoai have a good idea
07:52.08zoa<PROTECTED>
07:52.17zoaits not too expensive though
07:52.24MuppetMasterballpark?
07:52.30zoaballpark ?
07:52.46MuppetMasteryou said you have a good idea, so what is the idea you have?
07:52.57zoaah im not sure i can tell it (NDA etc)
07:53.00tessierHow odd. When I dial 3 on this 7960 asterisk sees 33
07:53.01MuppetMasterah, ok
07:53.01zoaso just call them
07:53.13tessierAnyone know what would cause that?
07:53.26tessierI have a feeling I've seen this before but can't recall what the deal was...
07:53.27zoai think ive seen that before
07:53.34zoadunno what the solution was
07:53.41zoai think the old grandstreams also had that
07:53.45tessierThat is going to make it rather hard to navigate voicemail.
07:53.50tessierThis is a 7960G with the latest firmware.
07:54.02tessierDialing in over PSTN actually
07:54.12tessierAsterisk is answering the line on a T-1.
07:54.27tessierThe problem must be on the asterisk on my end...although I would think someone would have noticed this earlier...
07:54.29FaithfulYou must have bluez to use bluetooth devices with * ??
07:55.28argos73gotta love it when GPL hits NDA...  :)
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07:56.42[hC]tessier: its because someone has dialed 33 in the past, and your 7960 is autocompleting a previously dilaed number
07:56.50[hC]tessier: press 3, then more, then clear, then dial
07:56.56tessierOops, this is a 7912.
07:56.56[hC]it'll stop it
07:57.07tessier[hC]: Did it with 9999 too
07:57.16tessierCame out to 9999999
07:57.25[hC]its probably becuase someone DIALED THAT in the past!
07:57.25tessierAnd this is not during the dialing phase.
07:57.25[hC]:P
07:57.29[hC]oh
07:57.35tessierI am connected listening to the auto-attendant
07:57.41tessierThen I want to hit 9999 to get connected to the voicemail system
07:57.49tessierAnd instead it tries to get 9999999
07:57.54argos73tessier: can also happen if you're doing digital->analog->digital over an iffy link
07:57.59tessierI bet something is screwy with the dtmf on this phone...
07:58.00[hC]well then i would say your keypad has some damage and/or sticks
07:58.08tessierargos73: Indeed we are doing d-a-d
07:58.33afrosheenso you get 3 extra 9's?
07:58.35afrosheenor 4
07:58.55argos73if the codec is breaking due to bandwidth issues, it could cause dupe dtmf
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07:59.23tessierI got 3 extra 9's
07:59.29tessier9999 becomes 9999999
07:59.40tessierer....
07:59.44tessierYeah, that's it
07:59.54tessier<PROTECTED>
08:00.12afrosheenwhat happens if you dial 99
08:00.17tessierWas wondering there for a second why it was dialing out Zap/g1 but that makes sense now. Had it been 9999 it would have been a local extension.
08:00.17afrosheendo you get 99999?
08:01.22argos73if the pattern is exactly reproducable every time, it could be a coding thing.  if it varies, I might suspect codec problems garbling the analog DTMF tones
08:01.42afrosheenyeah try to reproduce it with more or less 9's, see if it's consistend
08:01.46afrosheenwoops consistent
08:02.20[hC]hey does anyone know of a bluetooth headset that works with the cisco 7960?
08:02.41afrosheenis it a bluetooth phone?
08:02.49argos73nope
08:02.52[hC]not natively, no, but it has a headset jack.
08:03.06afrosheenjust get a plantronics headset then
08:03.20[hC]Im looking at getting a handset lifter and a bluetooth headset that i presume would be just like a plantronics CS60 that has a cradle
08:03.33argos73could always rig up a radio smack "bluetooth to 2.5mm headset jack" gizmo
08:03.43[hC]except the cs60 isnt bluetooth, and i would prefer if i could use the same headset when i walk away from my phone, for use with my cell phone.
08:03.56[hC](cause it could also cound for presence detection)
08:04.29afrosheenman that thing is dorky
08:04.31[hC]i did find one vendor who had one, but the reviews were so-so
08:04.40afrosheenit should come with a Borg Eye you wear on the other side of your head
08:04.48zoabluetooth ?
08:04.51zoagn netcom one
08:04.53afrosheenthe cs60
08:04.54zoais prolly a good one
08:04.58argos73ever seen a review that isn't so-so???  :)
08:04.59[hC]yeah zoa thats the one i saw
08:04.59tessierWhen I dial 9 9 I get 9999
08:05.02tessierSo that gets me into voicemial
08:05.04MuppetMasterI find the GN Netcom wireless edition crap.
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08:05.13tessierBut if I enter mailbox 1000 I get 11000000
08:05.14[hC]i heard the GN one sucked big time
08:05.22tessierAnd password 1234 I get 11223344
08:05.23afrosheentessier: every time?
08:05.24[hC]audio quality wise
08:05.27zoahmm
08:05.30zoawe dont have that one
08:05.30tessierYep. Every time. Identical. Reproduceable.
08:05.34zoabut we have the normal one
08:05.38zoaand that one sounds very good
08:05.39afrosheentessier: ok so you're having d-a-d issues then I imagine, dtmf echo
08:05.48tessierugh
08:05.53afrosheenyeah I know it sucks
08:06.07tessierActually, the signal is 100% digital the whole way. No POTS involved.
08:06.13tessierer....wait..that's not true.
08:06.13afrosheenhmm
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08:06.19argos73LONG LIVE ECHO!  ECHO!  Echo!  echo!
08:06.22tessierI think it does go into a pots line and then this number forwards to another...
08:06.32tessierLet me try dialing the direct number. This is way too complicated already. :)
08:06.50argos73heh
08:07.11argos73whenever you throw analog conversion into the mix, things get funky
08:07.55afrosheenwerd
08:08.28tessierOk, there is no analog anywhere in the connection.
08:08.34tessierAnd it still echoes
08:08.45[hC]only with that particular phone, or any phone?
08:08.54[hC]maybe you need to change the method in which you send dtmf
08:09.04tessierFrom this 7912 via SIP over the Internet into an asterisk box then out a DS-3 to the PSTN then in a T-1 on the other end into asterisk.
08:09.05[hC]do you use sip info, inband or rfc2833?
08:09.17argos73hmm...  if I velcro'd my ipaq to my new fridge, would it make it an "Internet-enabled refrigerator"??  things to ponder...
08:09.24afrosheenshould be inband I would imagine
08:09.51afrosheenbut rfc2833 works from here at home with my polycom 500
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08:10.13[hC]i prefer rfc2833 whenever possible, it seems the most compatible and reliable so far.
08:10.30afrosheenyeah dtmf inband seems like a hack
08:10.46afrosheenbut I've seen some clients like kphone, that's the only way they'll handle it
08:11.22argos73inband = easy way out...  unfortunately, it usually sucks...
08:11.29tessierLet me try it on another phone...
08:11.40afrosheenand you MUST use ulaw with inband as well, or another wasteful codec
08:12.13bkw_you can usually use inband with g726 also
08:12.14afrosheenanyone have a link to the archives with the meetme delay issue solved?
08:12.24bkw_afrosheen, it wasn't
08:12.29afrosheenuh oh
08:12.38afrosheenI thought the |q to silence the entry tones fixed it
08:13.05tessierI have 2 7912's here and they both have the same issue
08:13.19tessier[hC]: I am checking how we are sending dtmf...the 7912 config sucks. :(
08:13.30afrosheenbkw_: link?
08:13.38tessierdtmf is probably coded into one of these ridicilous hex strinsg
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08:15.01afrosheenbkw_: this is what I was reading before  http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2005-February/009513.html
08:17.30bkw_no no XML encoded DTMF
08:17.34bkw_ya ya thats how we need to start doing it
08:17.40bkw_OH WAIT sip already has that
08:18.01bkw_afrosheen, it still wasn't fixed
08:18.38BoRiSbkw!
08:18.54BoRiSYour still up?
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08:19.30bkw_BoRiS, just makin sure the shit is still workin
08:19.54bkw_we are currently billing out over 500 calls a min.
08:20.03bkw_the system is purring along
08:20.04afrosheenfrom 1.0.5 to 1.0.7 and the meetme delay is still alive huh..arg
08:20.15bkw_afrosheen, duh hehe
08:20.34BoRiSvery nice bkw!
08:20.38bkw_good god it might catch up now
08:20.42bkw_sheesh
08:20.46zoayeah bkw
08:20.47tessierbkw_: So is Michael winning or losing??
08:20.54bkw_tessier, loosing
08:20.54tessierEnquiring minds want to know!
08:20.57tessierdoh
08:21.00bkw_GUILTY
08:21.10bkw_I can sure tell when the episode airs
08:21.12tessierMike's headed for Federal "POUND ME IN THE ASS" Prison!
08:21.19bkw_we get these 200-400 call spikes
08:21.21zoawe tested ours with 500 calls / second
08:21.22zoa:)
08:21.44BoRiSall on one server bkw and zoa?
08:21.47zoaour billing keeps up
08:21.50zoathe asterisk doesnt
08:21.54afrosheenlol
08:21.54bkw_BoRiS, ours is on 7 servers
08:21.57bkw_4 T's per server
08:21.59zoaours on 20
08:22.08afrosheenhmm what's bkw doing right
08:22.09bkw_well this cluster is 7
08:22.13bkw_we have another with 5 in it
08:22.18bkw_but thats in LA
08:22.26bkw_plus two TNT's
08:22.30bkw_one in LA
08:22.31bkw_one in VA
08:22.31BoRiSwhat clustering software?
08:22.35bkw_BoRiS, ZERO
08:22.36zoaasterisk hates more than 50 calls / second
08:22.38bkw_you can't cluster asterisk
08:22.40bkw_silly boi
08:22.53bkw_hey wanna see a picture of zoa?
08:22.54tessierah-ha
08:22.59tessierI think the dtmf setup on the phone is wrong
08:22.59BoRiSWhat about that linux high availabilty kernel patch or something
08:23.06tessierAudioMode:0x00000011
08:23.19bkw_http://homepage.mac.com/brian.west/PhotoAlbum9.html
08:23.21tessierwiki says it shold be AudioMode:0x00000020
08:23.25zoahehe
08:23.31afrosheenso that's it then
08:23.35bkw_100_0235
08:23.37tessierI bet we were trying to use inband over g729
08:23.45afrosheenlol
08:23.47bkw_tessier, smack
08:23.49bkw_bad idea
08:23.50zoathat would not give double results
08:23.51afrosheenjust what I was saying earlier :)
08:23.53tessierI know it's a bad idea.
08:23.56zoait would give no results
08:23.59tessierThe people who setup this phone probably did not
08:23.59bkw_you can do it
08:24.06bkw_bu tit works about 10% of the timee
08:24.08bkw_and not all in a row
08:24.09zoayeah but it wont work reliably
08:24.28afrosheentessier: is there an audio mode list somewhere
08:24.33bkw_I'm sitting here in my underwear... just in case you wanna know that
08:24.33zoaim migrating the callcenter to asterisk only
08:24.40BoRiSLOL!
08:24.45Zeeekbkw_ too much information
08:24.47afrosheenzoa: have you seen the latest AMP
08:24.51bkw_zoa http://asterisk.bkw.org/congrats.gsm
08:24.56BoRiSMr twisted in those pics?
08:24.56zoaamp is nothing for me
08:25.01tessierbkw_: I IRC completely buck nekkid all the time
08:25.03Qwellbkw_: These images need names, for the uninformed. :p
08:25.08tessierIn fact I might be nekkid right now.
08:25.15bkw_tessier, bet you are
08:25.16tessierHaving an 11th digit helps me type faster
08:25.17afrosheenzoa: I know you're too leet for it or whatever but it's supporting queueing now, added a ton of new features
08:25.19bkw_now keep both hands on the keyboard please
08:25.24tessierheh
08:25.30zoai will have a look at it again
08:25.35tessierThe keyboards a little sticky...
08:25.37zoamaybe we can use it for some customers
08:25.56zoalets get this trunking for high volumes to work this week!
08:26.01zoaand the sip jitter buffer of course
08:26.41bkw_its cute to hear zoa say "jitter buffer"
08:26.59bkw_hahaha
08:27.14rikstawhy? :P
08:27.25afrosheenpikachu-voice?
08:27.50bkw_thats hot
08:27.57bkw_thats sexy
08:28.09bkw_ok sexy..
08:28.12bkw_love ya bitch
08:28.12argos73time for a cold shower...  :)
08:28.21BoRiShe does!
08:28.21afrosheenbkw_: dumb question, where do I find the conf() stuff at
08:28.30bkw_afrosheen, for?
08:28.30BoRiS:-p
08:28.34tessierhmm...that does not seem to have fixed it.
08:28.39bkw_BoRiS, call 996
08:28.40afrosheenbkw_: fixing the delay business in meetme
08:28.53afrosheenconf_play()
08:28.55bkw_good luck.. love ya bitch
08:28.58bkw_afrosheen, no clue
08:29.03bkw_BoRiS, nm
08:29.06bkw_can't talk
08:29.10BoRiSbkw: ok, give me a few minutes...
08:29.11BoRiSoh
08:30.02zoaespecially when i got drunk again
08:30.22zoathan it sometimes even looks a little like english :/
08:30.26zoasounds even
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08:32.52bkw_haha
08:32.58bkw_zoa drunk is about as funny as me drunk
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08:33.53iceyphey guys, how can I get a 7940 to work with asterisk, I cant get a codec to work
08:34.05rikstaiceyp: ulaw
08:34.13iceypriksta  is that the only one i can use?
08:34.20iceypI generally use gsm or ilbc
08:34.21rikstayeah
08:34.35rikstano you have to use ulaw to the asterisk server, then you can use whatever you want,
08:34.46iceypok
08:34.53iceypso g711ulaw
08:35.01iceypwhats g711alaw
08:35.01iceyp?
08:35.05rikstait doesn't matter if you use ulaw because it's internal
08:35.11iceypthis is a remote 7940 phone
08:35.13iceypover the net
08:35.18rikstaoh, well you have to use ulaw
08:35.27iceypdamn
08:36.07iceyptakes so long to reboot :/
08:36.08rikstai'm sure there is a possible workaround other than having an * box there
08:36.10rikstabut i don't know of any
08:36.17iceypdoes the whole configuring vlan when i dont even use vlans
08:37.28rikstawho cares?
08:37.41bkw_ok I need sleep
08:39.00rikstalater
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08:41.35Shido6bleh
08:41.43iceypMar 30 20:41:28 NOTICE[50495]: chan_sip.c:7313 handle_request: Unable to create/find channel
08:41.45Shido67940s arent that hard to setup
08:41.47iceypwhat's this mean
08:41.53Shido6u have a tftp server setup?
08:41.57iceypShido6  nah got it working
08:42.02Shido6ok
08:42.07Shido6then you're set
08:42.08Shido6next
08:42.11iceypupgrading firmware was a bitch to start
08:42.33iceypweird thing is it doesnt seem to work from here at work, but then again neighther does my x-lite
08:42.37iceypprobably firewalled
08:42.43Shido6thought you set you got it working?
08:42.50iceypthough it used to work direct to asterisk, now I use ser as the proxy
08:42.56Shido6why do you use ser?
08:42.59Shido6you dont need ser
08:43.06Shido6connect it directly to asterisk
08:43.07iceypfor thousands of users?
08:43.09Shido6yes
08:43.17iceypI use ser for serweb
08:43.20iceypfree voip in NZ
08:43.25iceypsimular to freeworlddialup
08:43.40Shido6we have a few customers on our asterisk systems
08:43.43Shido6NuFone
08:43.50iceypyeah i know ;)
08:44.00rikstayeah, i think everyone knows
08:44.01riksta:P
08:44.05rikstait's all i hear from Shido6  :)
08:44.32Shido6whats the problem
08:44.44Shido6where is your asterisk box in relation to your 7940
08:45.09iceypAtm i'm connecting firect to the asterisk
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08:45.25Shido6ok so the * has a public ip?
08:45.30argos73hmm - wife's alarm clock goes off in 10 minutes - time to get to bed before I get in trouble!  :)
08:45.31argos73later
08:45.45rikstaLOL
08:45.50Shido6iceyp your asterisk box has a public ip? or behind nat?
08:45.56iceyppublic
08:45.58Shido6ok
08:46.03Shido6and where is your phone?
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08:46.06Shido6public ip or nat?
08:46.09iceypbehind nat
08:46.12Shido6ok
08:46.22Shido6turn on nat processing on the phone in the sip<mac>.cnf file
08:46.30Shido6do you have access to the router on the remote end?
08:46.37Shido6or whatever is doing the nating
08:46.43iceypno im at work, corp lan
08:46.50iceypthey dont even know i have my phone here ;P
08:47.00Shido6if you dont have access to the router
08:47.01Zeeekget back to work!
08:47.03Shido6theres nothing you can do
08:47.08iceypahh ok
08:47.09Shido6exccept try IAX
08:47.17iceypI need to forward 5060 to my phone?
08:47.24Shido6not just 5060
08:47.31iceypalso udp ports
08:47.31rikstaiceyp: RTP ports
08:47.34rikstaer
08:47.35iceypahh ok
08:47.48Shido6voip_control_port: "5060"
08:47.48Shido6start_media_port: "16384"
08:47.48Shido6end_media_port:  "32766"
08:47.58zhierif i want talk with somebody else what should i do after i execute the "answer" application
08:48.06iceypi need to start packing my stuff in the box
08:48.16iceypShido6 i wana chat to you, but will have to be tommorow
08:48.26iceypgirls meeting me at home and she wont let me on the puter
08:48.34Shido6zhier -
08:48.45Shido6you use answer if you're pickin up a zap channel or have a did coming into your box
08:49.02rikstaiceyp: i used to get that :)
08:49.03Shido6the next priority is whatever you want asterisk to do to handle the call
08:49.15Shido6iceyp
08:49.20Shido6call me at 877-677-9649
08:49.20zhierbut i use a softphone to dial or answer
08:49.28Shido6or IM me at shido6@msn.com
08:49.45webmikoim curious.. anyone know how many people they have over at digium?
08:49.46Shido6does your softphone have a user and peer setup in sip.conf, zhier ?
08:49.56zhieryes
08:50.04Shido6and whats the peer called?
08:50.43iceypwill chat to you tomoz
08:50.46zhierfor example, i called "dial 2000@from-sip"
08:50.47Shido6what is  your softphones peer called, zhier?
08:50.52Shido6err
08:50.53Shido6no
08:51.02Shido6what is the softphones peer called in sip.conf
08:51.03zhierwhat?
08:51.11zhier2000
08:51.14Shido6great
08:51.24zhierand then?
08:51.25Shido6so if you have exten => s,1,Answer
08:51.44Shido6exten => s,2,Dial(SIP/2000)
08:51.47zhierno i have exten=>2000,1,Answer
08:51.53Shido6that works
08:51.54Shido6then
08:51.55Shido6try
08:52.02Shido6exten => 2000,1,Answer
08:52.08Shido6exten => 2000,2,Playback,transfer
08:52.17Shido6exten => 2000,3,Dial(SIP/2000|20|r)
08:52.24Shido6exten => 2000,4,Voicemail(u2000)
08:52.32Shido6exten => 2000,103,Voicemail(b2000)
08:52.35zhieroh i see
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08:52.38Shido6but you dont need the answer
08:52.39zhierthanks
08:52.41Shido6really
08:52.49Shido6and setup /etc/asterisk/vociemail.conf
08:52.55Shido6so you have a 2000 => 1234 line in there
08:53.05zhieryes.
08:53.05Shido6you'll understand when you read voicemail.conf
08:53.13scoofany chan_sccp users/developers here?
08:53.15Shido6and add maybe a exten => 6969,1,VoicemailMain
08:53.16Shido6in there somewhere
08:53.20Shido6so get to voicemail
08:53.29Shido6I would do it a totally different way alltogether actually
08:53.37Shido6make 1 macro for those 4 or 5 lines
08:53.44Shido6and make a single line when I want the extension to be called
08:53.52Shido6so when I add ane xtension
08:53.58Shido6I just add a single line pointing to the macro
08:54.01rikstaanyone in the UK who can do me a deal on bulk minutes and DIDs
08:54.03zhieri have configured the voicemail.conf
08:54.04Shido6rather than adding 4 or 5 additional exten lines
08:54.39Shido6here's a freebee
08:56.52Shido6http://pastebin.ca/8468
08:57.08Shido6oops
08:57.12Shido6let me fix that
08:57.38Shido6http://pastebin.ca/8469
08:59.03rikstaman that pastebin is always SO slow
08:59.41Shido6I can connect to your box and configure it if you want... a lot faster...
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09:01.28Aze`Anyone use BRI ISDN in PTP mode ?
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09:13.29Zgarbire
09:14.58Zeeekre
09:15.54Zgarbiwhere is 1.0.7 Release to download?
09:16.59djinsearch and you will find it.
09:17.34djinhttp://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk-mirrors
09:17.42djinmight be a good start
09:17.51djinor http://www.asterisk.org
09:19.51Zgarbion asterisk.org 1.0.6
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09:20.29Zgarbiis a cvs 1.0.7?
09:21.34djinclick the first FTP link or use the mirrors page
09:22.40Jas_WilliamsZgarbi: No 1.0.7 is stable
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09:23.53Zgarbiok
09:26.04Zgarbiok, I found it on german mirror
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09:30.50webmikowith GPL licensing having to apply to asterisk modules.  does that mean you cant wrap up anything under the bsd license into a module?
09:32.27mepplguten morgen
09:32.52_|ms|_talk in english please :)
09:33.57zoaaufmachen!
09:34.25_|ms|_oder ist heute hier deutsch angesagt? LOL
09:34.35mepplit was a amsg
09:34.43mepplgood morning ;)
09:34.44zoawoher geht der bus ?
09:34.55zoaich bin neu her
09:35.03zoavolltanken bitten
09:35.11Pj386webmiko: I don't think so
09:35.12zoaSchweinhund!
09:35.21mepplzoa, so, its really an english-speaking channel
09:35.22Pj386that's what the LGPL is for :)
09:35.23riksta#gpl
09:35.30chapeaurougelol @] Zoa
09:35.53_|ms|_if you want to talk in german open a pm... or a new channel
09:36.27zoaRamm....Stein....
09:36.46zoa99 luftballon, und ich liebe, ich liebe dich
09:36.49zoaor something
09:36.50zoa:)
09:37.02scoofzoa: not quite :)
09:37.09zoafear my leet german
09:38.37webmikoPj> but asterisk isnt lbpl unfortuantely.
09:38.50webmikoshit. lgpl i mean heh
09:39.33tessierWhenever I see german I think of scheisse videos.
09:39.40tessierThe Internet has warped my wittle mind.
09:40.45Pj386webmiko: oh ok... So why did you say GPL ? :) If it's LGPL then you can link with any license
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09:42.04webmikoPj> i said gpl because it is gpl.  that seems counterproductive to asterisk development.  specifically keeping developers from building modules using more flexible licensing...
09:43.51newlIs there something stopping you from creating a GPL'd wrapper that loads a binary library? :)
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09:46.48zoano but that library itself will not be legal
09:46.56zoaas it has to be linked to asterisk
09:47.32webmikoyea thats what i was thinking.
09:50.50zoaunless you write wrappers for all ast_stuff
09:51.38Pj386wrappers ? How would you do it _without_ linking to asterisk ?
09:52.07Pj386The only way I see to escape the GPL licensing is to use AGIs, since they're not linked
09:52.13Pj386or fastAGIs even
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09:59.44zhierwho can help me? i want to talk somebody else by the softphone.and what should i do after i called the "Answer" application
09:59.56libpcpanyone has an experience with SMS in asterisk?
10:00.28Zeeeklibpcp what's up?
10:00.46Zeeekcd
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10:02.16mesiYES!!!!!!! Sombody made a call I routed to +49 700 ... :-D
10:02.43Zeeeklibpcp your SMS problem?
10:02.45zhierwho can help me? i want to talk somebody else by the softphone. And what should i do after i called the "Answer" application?
10:03.11ZeeekStarter tutorial:
10:03.11Zeeekhttp://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html
10:03.11Zeeekhttp://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html
10:03.11Zeeekhttp://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm
10:03.11ZeeekTHE reference of the moment:
10:03.11Zeeekhttp://www.asteriskdocs.org
10:04.56zhieri have seen these docs, and all of them just answer the call
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10:05.32Zeeekif you saw the docs, what is your exact question?
10:06.55zhierfor example i dial 2000 and the the "2000" answers the call but what should i do after the answer
10:08.05Zeeekif you saw the docs.... it's all there unless you are trying to do something special
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10:10.57zhierthe docs just teach me how to answer, but after the answer, we(caller and callee) can't talk with each other
10:11.22ZeeekWhy are you answering someone else's phone?
10:11.37Zeeekyou want to call 2000 from another phone?
10:11.50Zeeekpost your extensions to pastebin.ca
10:12.04Zeeekif the phones are SIP post the sip.conf stuff too
10:13.00zhierno. i just dial in the CLI command line
10:14.00ZeeekI think you are missing some fundamental understanding of asterisk, like extensions and phones... but I'm leaving for lunch
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10:16.47mesiDamn! I have a serious problem. There are several calls "I gave", but of length 0 seconds :-(
10:19.44Zgarbiapp_addon_sql_mysql.c:164:36: error: macro "AST_LIST_REMOVE" requires 4 arguments, but only 3 given
10:19.53Zgarbi?
10:20.08rikstaZgarbi: are you running asterisk cvs version
10:20.30Zgarbino, trying to compile 1.0.7
10:20.38rikstait only works with cvs dude
10:20.40Zgarbithis is addon
10:20.46rikstai know what it is
10:21.40Zgarbiwith 1.0.6 I have problem music on hold, while conversation if put one side on hold no music on other side
10:22.13Zgarbiis this fixed in cvs?
10:22.14rikstawhat version of mpeg123 do you have
10:23.14ZgarbiVersion 0.59r (1999/Jun/15).
10:23.35rikstahm should be ok
10:23.49puppetzgarbi: upgrade to 1.0.7 then?
10:23.52puppet;p
10:24.00Zgarbiit's located in /urs/local/bin is this problem?
10:24.15Zgarbinot iet, prepare
10:24.21rikstado you have two versions
10:24.23Zgarbialready make "make"
10:24.33Zgarbino
10:24.52Zgarbibut if addons doesnt works then i skip this
10:24.58ZgarbiI need mysql support
10:24.59rikstadude
10:25.01rikstai just told you
10:25.05rikstathe addon works with asterisk cvs
10:25.28puppetbut why run cvs when there is 1.0.7 ?
10:25.32Zgarbiit was worked with 1.0.6
10:25.57ZgarbiI download 1.0.7 asterisk and asterisk-addons
10:26.12Zgarbiboth for 1.0.7
10:26.18rikstapuppet: it doesn't compile against 1.0.7
10:26.22Zgarbibut iet not install 1.0.7
10:26.28rikstaare you sure you didnt get the cvs addons?
10:26.35Zgarbisure
10:26.38puppetriksta: worked here :/
10:26.49rikstahm
10:27.43Zgarbihttp://www.asterisk-support.de/mirror/asterisk-1.07-STABLE/asterisk-addons-1.0.7.tar.gz
10:28.40rikstai just tried it
10:28.42rikstai get the same error
10:28.47rikstaand im running 1.0.7
10:28.57rikstaim sure that someone said it needs to be running cvs *
10:30.57shmoozwhat is the best frontend for asterisk at the moment?
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10:31.33DelvarSSH
10:32.15shmooz:\
10:40.02Pj386I'm gonna test out amp soon, it seems good... A little bit afraid of the "black magic" side, so I have to see how it works internally, but it "looks" nice
10:45.26shmoozPj386 I'm I'm doing a frontend in php, it adds removes views ,contexts phones voicemail info and queues so far, have to add the dialplan part and stuff...
10:45.44mesiAnybody using fwdOUT?
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10:48.11sudhir492hi all
10:48.40mesihi sudhir
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10:51.42Zgarbiso better to run on cvs then stable?
10:52.55rikstadepends what you mean by better
10:53.24Zgarbiaddon
10:53.32rikstawtf
10:54.01Zgarbieither I already install 1.0.7 and it's not working for some extensions
10:54.05Zgarbistrange
10:54.16rikstamore liekly to be user configuration error tbh
10:54.21Zgarbimusiconhold didnt works for conversation :(
10:55.32rikstadoes normal MOH work?
10:55.53rikstaadd this to your dialplan to test it
10:56.00rikstaexten => 555,1,WaitMusicOnHold(120)
10:56.10rikstaor something similar
10:56.36ZgarbiI have 2 things
10:56.43Zgarbione:
10:56.44Zgarbiexten => 1991,1,Answer
10:56.45Zgarbiexten => 1991,2,Wait,1
10:56.45Zgarbiexten => 1991,3,MusicOnHold(default)
10:56.45Zgarbiexten => 1991,5,Wait,20
10:56.45Zgarbiexten => 1991,6,Hangup
10:56.49Zgarbiit's works
10:56.58Zgarbisecond:
10:56.59Zgarbiexten => 1992,1,Answer
10:56.59Zgarbiexten => 1992,2,Wait,1
10:56.59Zgarbiexten => 1992,3,MusicOnHold(radio_ge)
10:57.00Zgarbiexten => 1992,5,Wait,20
10:57.00Zgarbiexten => 1992,6,Hangup
10:57.21rikstathat isn't the standard music on hold is it
10:57.28Zgarbisecond is a streamed music and it's worked for me in 1.0.6 but non in 1.0.7
10:57.40Pj386shmooz: I'd be intersted, tell me if you have a website
10:58.12Zgarbibut no music on hold while conversation hold
10:58.12Zgarbiyes, standard
10:58.43Zgarbisecond is connecting, but no voice
10:59.10rikstawhat do you mean no voice
10:59.24rikstahave you checked the stream in xmms or something
10:59.28Zgarbiquite
10:59.38rikstaquite?
10:59.44rikstaare you on crack?
10:59.54ZgarbiI mean no sound
11:00.44rikstacheck the steam is working in xmms
11:00.50ZgarbiI retransmit streamed audio... but not anymore
11:00.54Zgarbiok
11:06.03shmoozPj386 : I don't have a demo setup right now , I can send you the php code if you want to try it on your server
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11:23.25queuetueHow do I automatically repeat a menu after waiting for a response?
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11:23.51InfraRedloop?
11:24.26queuetueAre there loops?  Where is asterisk's extensions syntax really described?
11:25.21Jas_Williamsqueuetue: t means time out exten=> t,1,goto(s) should work
11:26.21queuetueJas_Williams, But s starts with Answer() - is that ignored (or unnecessary?)
11:27.08Jas_WilliamsIt will be ignored it is not necessary if you are doing a background as this answers the line when neccessary
11:28.17Jas_Williamsor an exten=> t,1,goto(s,2) will got to priority 2
11:28.22Zeeekhey Jas_Williams
11:29.46Jas_Williamsafternoon Zeeek
11:31.04Mavvieon a packet received with recvfrom(), how can I see *to* which IP address it was send.
11:31.16ZeeekJas have you ever set up a small asterisk box? Like using no disks, anything like that?
11:33.12Jas_WilliamsZeeek: no fraid not BUt i'm sure there was some builds on the users list search that
11:33.42ZeeekI've been watching the list, yeah there's been a little about it.
11:38.00scoofanybody got Cisco 7970s they want to test with Asterisk?
11:38.02queuetueI'm using x-lite's soft phone for linux. outgoing calls work fine, but incoming ones play this horrifying, cacaphonous racket instead of ringing, then make absolutely no sound after connecting.  Is this a problem with the telco provider (broadvoice), asterisk config, x-lite config, or screwed up ausio in linux?
11:38.29queuetueCaller id works fineon these calls.
11:39.29queuetue(are hard phones less trouble, or is wierd noise and mysterious connection state just a given with sip phones, soft or hard?)
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11:44.11markak2hi all, i have a small question. my asterisk installation is running perfectly. i am busy adding options to it. the one i am trying to do is to allow a caller to get passed through to one of the other zap channels so that they may dial out on it. this is to allow a cellphone user to call international destinations. ie: cell clls in on zap1 certain extension connects him to zap2 with open pstn line. is this possible.
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11:47.32Zeeekmarkak2 yes look for  DISA
11:47.53Zeeekor just Dial(ZAP/1)
11:48.03Zeeekor whatever you your line is
11:48.13ZeeekZAP/2 you said
11:49.13mesiThat's bad there is no forum on fwdOUT.net
11:49.23Zeeekyes it is bad
11:49.28Zeeekterrible in fact
11:49.38Zeeekbut there is FWD forum
11:53.20Jas_Williamsmesi: there its http://forum.fwdout.net/
11:53.31Zeeekhow about that? :)
11:54.19Jas_Williams;-P
11:54.35ZeeekI tried bellster for about 1 day
11:55.54queuetueHow do I play a .gsm in linux (outside of asterisk)
11:56.06ZeeekI hear sox does it
11:56.10newlsoxplay
11:56.24_|ms|_and what do you use for windows?
11:56.42Zeeekquicktime or efax
11:57.08queuetuesoxplay?  I've got sox, but do not know soxplay.
11:58.01queuetuethe "play" command works here (ubuntu-hoary)
12:01.54queuetueHow do I insert a playback before an extension is called?  (I have ext 1003, 1004, 1005 set up, and I want a "please hold while I connect you" message to play before the extension is called, without inserting it in each extension individually)
12:02.14markak2thanks all going to use DISA option.
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12:02.44Zeeekqueuetue what does the dial command looklike?
12:03.16queuetueZeeek, exten => 1060,1,Dial(${SALES})
12:03.29Zeeekand sales is the multiple extensions?
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12:04.03queuetueZeeek, I also have a exten => 1001,1,Dial(${MIKE}) , etc..
12:04.29Zeeekyou it tries them one after the other?
12:04.41queuetueAm I setting this up wrong?  These are all in an "extensions" section that gets included by [incoming] and [intrnal]
12:04.52queuetueZeeek, No, it just tries the one you dial, I think...
12:04.59Zeeekdepends on what you are actually trying to accomplish
12:05.16Zeeekjust answer and playback the short message and then dial
12:05.42Zeeekif you mean how to insert it always, maybe you want to make a macro for this kind of extension
12:05.59queuetueOk, macros.  Off to read more.
12:06.14Zeeekdo a search on macro-online
12:06.26Zeeekthere's the classic macro that's been floating around everywhere
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12:12.14caesar2hi, good iax soft phone, besides firefly ? firefly crashes at 100% cpu load
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12:34.35Zeeekooops macro-oneline !
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12:56.15Zeeekexit
12:56.19vergegood morning anyone in asterisk land
12:57.53Essobiwoop
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13:17.02t0pverge: are you there?
13:23.35marlowebooya
13:23.40marlowet0p: Im here.
13:23.43marloweAm I good enough?
13:23.48marlowe:)
13:23.49bjohnsonno
13:23.53marlowe:-0
13:24.13jay-pThis question haunts my mind / Will we survive this night? / We're harboring the meek / Will we survive the sleep?
13:24.27marlowebjohnson: I'm good enough.
13:24.57Zeeekno
13:25.30marloweZeek: Yes!
13:25.37marloweDon't make me cry.
13:25.39Zeeeknot not not !
13:25.53bjohnsonThis quesion haunts my mind: will I become like jay-p when I become senile?
13:26.12Zeeekwhat do you mean, when?
13:26.35queuetuejay-p, What are you talking about? That sounds like high school poetry. :)
13:26.39jay-pbjohnson, any senior citizen who plays pantera is cool in my book
13:26.50marlowela la la
13:27.04marlowelilo messed my cloak up
13:27.08marloweI paid for sustaining
13:27.12marloweI got active
13:27.14marlowe:'(
13:32.42verget0p: I am here.
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13:44.08t0pmarlowe, verge: Sorry, I was away
13:44.17t0pjust got some questions to ask
13:45.22t0pdo you guys know why a softphone doesn't send asterisk the registry statements
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13:47.24m654321zeeek are you there ?
13:48.14m654321anybody understand the disa command well
13:49.28bjohnsonno
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13:51.40langalsHi there...I have a question regarding codecs....
13:52.30langalsI have implemented Meetme...
13:53.08langalsNow, I read on voip-info.org that Meetme will use Ulaw by default...
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13:53.30verget0p-I have zero experience with softphones.
13:53.36cjkhi, does anyone of you guys know a phone supporting ilbc and iax2
13:54.21t0pverge: that's okay I will keep trying
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13:54.29langalsIn my sip.conf file I have specified - "disallow=all; all=gsm". Does this mean that both client and meetme server are using GSM...or that client is using GSM and server is transcoding to ULAW
13:54.31kleperhi
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13:56.40queuetueWhat's a good supplier for globalstream phones and digium "clone" cards?
13:57.13queuetue(The tech test is entering next phase :) )
13:57.38FaithfulUsing Asterisk software and standard PC hardware, one can create a SOHO (Small Office Home Office) telephony environment that includes all the sophisticated features of a high-end business telephone system.
13:57.52kleperi have a server asterisk on my lan , and i have only one public IP, i need can connect to the server asterisk calling to mu public ip? is possible
13:57.58Faithfulwhat a plug!!!
13:58.10FaithfulAnd that's from a reseller
13:58.24Faithful* is SOHO
13:58.52kleperon the wiki of voip i see a option with port forwarding and some header mangling magic??? but i need more info???
13:59.13Faithfulkleper: you got a firewall?
13:59.15scoofkleper: then you should look to the documentation for your NAT device
13:59.38kleperi have a linux firewall
14:00.10kleperso i use iptables but i don't know all the ports tha i have forward
14:00.18kleper*that
14:00.29scoofkleper: What protocols do you want to use?
14:00.32Faithfulso it's pretty easy... just use the iptable rules they give you on viop-info.org
14:00.35bjohnsonlangals: my understanding is that meetme is a p2p type app.  So perhaps it will use gsm with the other peers that it connects to?  Try it out both ways and update the wiki
14:00.56pigpenHi all...I am having issues with * and a Sipura SPA 3000 FXO...rings...but no audio..
14:00.58Faithfuljust doing iax in?
14:01.04klepersip and iax
14:01.10Faithfulpigpen: codec
14:01.16bjohnsoncjk: iax2 phones have only been available in the last few months.  You'll have to 1. find some 2. check what codecs they support
14:01.23pigpenFaithful: that was fast.
14:01.31Faithful4569 udp --> *
14:01.36queuetuesip incoming (through the firewall) or just outgoing?
14:01.50pigpenthe spa is on eth1 with no nat...
14:02.00pigpenmy phones are on the internet....
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14:02.05pigpenphones work fine...
14:02.12pigpenspa to voice mail works fine...
14:02.19pigpenbut spa to phones no audio...
14:02.46bjohnsonkleper: use iax2 and do port forwarding on the iax2 port (I think 5679)
14:03.03CrudeOilhi all
14:03.09kleperok bjohnson i have iax2
14:03.14pigpenFaithful: 4569 udp for the spa or the phones?
14:03.15Faithfulkleper: http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20firewall%20rules
14:03.25bjohnsonpigpen: all on one lan?  ie no NAT routers being crossed?
14:03.28Faithfulpigpen:  kleper
14:03.40FaithfulI have a mouse
14:03.54FaithfulI hear him...
14:03.55bjohnsonpigpen: nnm
14:04.14pigpenI have the * box at my colo....with 2 nics...1 public / 1 private.
14:04.18pigpenspa's are on the private
14:04.22CrudeOilwhen sending a call to a Quintum from * the Quintum only reports 1 codec (g723) and so * will only send g723 even though the Quintum will auto-negotiate any codec
14:04.24bjohnsonpigpen: as Faithful said .. it is likely a codec problem
14:04.43pigpenyeah..but shouldnt I get some sort of codec error in asterisk?
14:04.49CrudeOilhow can i force * to send any codec even if the Quintum only reports g723
14:04.55jakepdevanyone think their VOIP connection sounds as good as or better than POTS? - what is the ping time to your provider?
14:05.05bjohnsonpigpen: maybe if you have the logs turned up high enough
14:05.13bjohnsonpigpen: is it the fxs or fxo port?
14:05.21bjohnsonpigpen: fxs right?
14:05.26pigpenfxs turned off...fxo only
14:05.41Faithfuljakepdev: were not all lining up to tell you!!!
14:05.46bjohnsonyou followed the info at the bottom of the wiki page about 3ks?
14:05.59bjohnsonpigpen: what do you mean it rings?
14:06.09jakepdevFaithful - I can see that :)
14:06.29pigpenie, If I call the number the fxo is conn to...I have it forwarding to my extention...it rings...I answer...no audio...
14:06.33bjohnsonjakepdev: ping times are normally 30-50 ms
14:06.40pigpenIf I let it go to voicemail...all is fine.
14:06.43FaithfulHey guys, I did the zaphfc for ISDN and now I am very happy FYI no echo and reliable
14:06.57jakepdevbj - as good as or better than POTS?
14:07.11bjohnsonjakepdev: equivalent to mey ear
14:07.19jakepdevtnx
14:07.22kleperFaithful, thx
14:07.30bjohnsonpigpen: pastebin the cli info of a call with set verbose 5
14:07.33Faithfuljakepdev:  bjohnson is deaf btw
14:07.39jakepdevhah
14:07.39bjohnsonwhat?
14:07.51pigpenk...
14:08.20langalsbjohnson - thanks. If I type "sip show channels" and it indicates "GSM" under format, does this mean that both client and server are sending in GSM?
14:09.03bjohnsonit means that .. that call is using gsm
14:09.09Jas_Williamslangals: Yes if they wer not using the same codec they would not be able to talk to one another ;-)
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14:09.28jakepdevI have 58-60ms and the latency seems to be a little much
14:09.31Faithfuljakepdev: I'm using ilbc now and it sound the best it ever has
14:10.01bjohnsonjakepdev: find a faster way to connect or a different voip provider
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14:10.25jakepdevideal should be 30-50?
14:10.27scoofjakepdev: tried tweaking your jitter-buffers? Do you know how big they are now?
14:10.28smeevilgoood day all
14:10.47bjohnsonilbc is the best codec in high jitter situations .. but takes more cpu power than some other codecs and is not supported by all devices
14:10.56bjohnsonjakepdev: ideal would be 0
14:11.04smeevilcan anyone tell me which module to load , to solve the following problem on chan_sip : chan_sip.so: undefined symbol: ast_park_call
14:11.08pigpenbjohnson: http://www.pastebin.com/264776
14:11.15pigpennot much info...looks like a normal call.
14:11.19scoofjakepdev: and how have you deemed that 58-60ms is "a little too much"?
14:11.50Faithfuljakepdev: the issue is jitter, check your jitter
14:11.54Faithfulmdev
14:12.38bjohnsonpigpen: that is calling INTO the fxo?
14:12.43pigpenyep.
14:13.02pigpenI can get you access to the spa if it would help...
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14:13.34bjohnsonnope
14:13.43bjohnsonI want the extensions.conf for that though
14:13.53pigpenk.
14:13.58pigpenpastebin?
14:14.24bjohnsonyes
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14:14.49bjohnsonpigpen: is audio one way or not at all between the fxo call and the ip phone?
14:14.49langalsJas_Williams - thanks
14:15.08bjohnsonI assume 'mark' is an ip phone
14:15.22Hmmhesaysthis memory leak is starting to piss me off
14:15.24langalsHas anyone out there done any programming with the MS RTC core?
14:15.41bjohnsonHmmhesays: my memory has been leaking for years
14:15.50pigpenbjohnson: http://www.pastebin.com/264779
14:15.57pigpenbjohnson: yeah...mark is my extention
14:16.02langalsI apologise for mentioning microsoft :-)
14:16.04HmmhesaysI left the server with 200mb used last night, now it's at a gig
14:16.25bjohnsonpigpen: what context does the fxo come in on
14:16.37pigpenCCNBI-Default
14:17.33pigpensee...I called sipura...they had me set up the fxo to dial into * to ext 99
14:17.41pigpenthen from there I was passing it to my extention...
14:17.47bjohnsonpigpen: you've got multiple s extens .. which one do you suppose it will use?
14:17.48pigpenbut I figured that was kinda redundant
14:18.03pigpenso I set the spa to pass it to ext 213
14:18.15pigpenie:  mark 's phone
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16:03.24*** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || 1.0.7 Released || http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/16/asterisk_open_source_pbx/ || Allison ROCKS my socks!!!
16:03.33queuetueSeriously, is anyone seeing my messages? (If no one wants to answer my questions, that's fine - but if IRC isn't working, I'd like to know. :) )
16:03.37pigpenI think it is how vonage sends the caller id...
16:03.44pigpeneverything comes in with " xxx "
16:03.44AgiNamuqueutue, now , everyoe is ignoring you
16:03.53AgiNamuandi cant write wott shit
16:03.54Hmmhesaysqueutue
16:03.56queuetueAgiNamu, Good toy know. :)
16:04.11Hmmhesaysyou speak of digium clone cards
16:04.27Hmmhesaysif you are talking about a 5 dollar card you find on ebay... don't bother
16:04.33Mimmushow can I know if bug ID 2687 is fixed in current stable version of Asterisk?
16:04.37Jas_Williamslangals: The meetme uses a function of the zaptel timer to distribute voice frames in a timely manner to all parties in the meetme
16:04.41queuetueHmmhesays, wny dont bother?
16:04.43pigpenManxPower: I guess I will see if I can setup vonage from sending the caller id...
16:04.45ManxPowerMimmus: You read the asterisk-cvs mailing list
16:04.57Hmmhesayscause you'll end up pissing everyone in here off when it creates strange problems for you
16:05.03MimmusManxPower: No
16:05.13ManxPowerpigpen: You are using Vonage softphone account.
16:05.15AgiNamuthats right
16:05.16cbachmanJas_Williams, I've used mine mostly to call out through VOIP, but I've not noticed any problems with incoming calls that are passed through.
16:05.20AgiNamuyou'll run into enough issues as-is.
16:05.20ManxPowerMimmus: Then you will not know the information you are looking for.
16:05.25Hmmhesaysnow I must find out why my openvpn does not work
16:05.27AgiNamuadding some kinda clone just makes things worse
16:05.38pigpenManxPower: no...I am passing my ata account directly from my cisco ata to the sipura...
16:05.40queuetueHmmhesays, So, what is the entry price of attaching a single phone line to asterisk?
16:05.48MimmusManxPower: Bugtracker Mantis doesn't work?
16:05.51Hmmhesaysroughly 100 bucks if I remember right
16:05.51ManxPowerpigpen: that's just sick.
16:06.02pigpenManxPower: I know...I have a PRI on order...
16:06.03queuetue(If the $5.00 cards don't work)
16:06.20Hmmhesaysqueutue: the 5 dolla cards MIGHT work ok... that is the key word there MIGHT
16:06.21ManxPowerMimmus: No.  That just lists what is submitted.  It MAY show if it was commited to CVS, but honestly the correct place to look is the asterisk-cvs mailing list.
16:06.24pigpenbut we have used vonage for 2 years...we need time to move over..
16:06.28Jas_Williamscbachman: I was trying to use it connected to a dect phone and the wife complained about voice quality and I had to agree with her it is not toll quality but I could not explain why ..
16:06.46Hmmhesaysqueutue: buy a card from digium and you have warranty and support
16:06.54queuetue...80.00 per phone and 100 bucks per incoming line, and suddentlly, I might as well buy a proprietary pbx.
16:06.59MimmusManxPower: mmmmm, bad thing. I'm not a cvs, test-and-compile guru
16:07.09Hmmhesaysqueuetue: then go buy one if you like your legacy stuff
16:07.16tzangerqueuetue: no you don't use an X100P for every incoming line, that's gsick
16:07.17cbachmanJas_Williams, I couldn't either.  It's passing directly across the loopback.
16:07.27tzangerqueuetue: and if you want a proprietary PBX then go for it
16:07.37tzangerasterisk doesn't just compete on price
16:07.49Hmmhesaysasterisk competes on tweakablility factor
16:08.05KattyHmmhesays: a+
16:08.13fugitivoi'm looking for some doc or webpage describing all the available codecs for asterisk
16:08.14Jas_Williamscbachman correct but it still seemed to be experiencing drop out so I am not using it at the moment
16:08.20HmmhesaysI got some good ebooks on A+
16:08.33KattyHmmhesays: and i've got online classes
16:08.38HmmhesaysKatty: cool
16:08.41Kattymhmm
16:08.50HmmhesaysI never got my A+ probably wouldn't be to hard though
16:09.02Kattyyeah, just all these silly facts to memorize
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16:09.24AgiNamuit's $337 for 4 FXO ports on a TDM
16:09.26AgiNamucard
16:09.46tessierYou know...
16:09.46Hmmhesaysmost geeks have freakiskly good memory when it comes to inane facts
16:09.51tessierThese days, I would just buy a Cisco with 4 FXO ports
16:09.52eKo1How much of an increase in salary am I supposed to get with A+?
16:09.53tessierIt's cheaper.
16:10.00tessierAnd a hell of a lot more reliable.
16:10.01KattyHmmhesays: just except me, apparently.
16:10.09AgiNamuand for comparable features.... it is rather inexpensive.
16:10.10KattyHmmhesays: or maybe i've just not been around long enough?
16:10.19queuetueAnd how well do QOS solution work for voip trunklines?  There's no way we can have calls drop to nothing every time someone connects to AOL or whatever...and dropping a T1 in here to make the phones work better doesn't make any sense.
16:10.24AgiNamuAND..... well.... if you dont use analog lines, it's real cheap
16:10.34KattyHmmhesays: i was sorta  newborn with the when the 286 came out
16:10.41Katty...
16:10.48AgiNamuyou were newborn when 286s come out?
16:10.49HmmhesaysKatty: I think I was 2
16:10.53AgiNamuthat was like... a few years ago.
16:10.58Hmmhesays85?
16:11.01KattyAgiNamu: yes.
16:11.04KattyHmmhesays: 84
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16:11.10queuetueI still have a car that's that old. :)
16:11.14tessierqueuetue: Just prioritize the traffic on yor IP connection and you'll be fine.
16:11.14AgiNamuhehe... i was only born a few years before.
16:11.14Hmmhesayswhen the 286 came out?
16:11.16KattyAgiNamu: i'm only 20. heh
16:11.27tessierqueuetue: I use Wondershaper from lartc.org on my cable/dsl lines and it works great.
16:11.30Hmmhesaysok i was 2 when the 286 came out
16:11.31Kattybkw_: YOU OLD GEIZER
16:11.39AgiNamuim only 23
16:11.42queuetuetessier, what kind of hardware does that require?
16:11.47Jas_WilliamsMakes me feel old at 38
16:11.50AgiNamubut i remember upgrading to a 386
16:11.54KattyJas_Williams: you just need hugs.
16:11.55tessierqueuetue: Just a Linux box to be your router.
16:12.01Hmmhesaysi didn't start in with computers until 1999
16:12.11tessierHmmhesays: Wow. Newbie!
16:12.12Jas_Williamsme/ likes hugs
16:12.29tessierAn Apple ][c
16:12.34Kattyi started html when i was..uhh...13ish
16:12.35HmmhesaysI got my first computer in 1999
16:12.39queuetueSo, another computer. :)  Why do I have a feeling the economy of scale makes no sense to deploy astrisk until you get up into the hundreds of lines. :)
16:12.41Hmmhesaysand now here I sit
16:12.44Jas_Williamskit
16:12.57tessierqueuetue: That's not true at all.
16:13.04queuetue(Well, unless you have some particularly complex phon control needs.)
16:13.16tessierqueuetue: Another computer when you probably already have a router there you can replace. Plus you don't need an expensive computer. A 486 could route a dsl/cablemodem connection.
16:13.19Kattydo i really need to know the external speed of all these processors?
16:13.33Hmmhesaysthey are pretty easy to memorize
16:13.37tessierKatty: Not only that but what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
16:13.39Kattyi have flashcards!
16:13.44Kattytessier: what do you mean?
16:13.45Hmmhesaysafrican swallow?
16:13.48Kattytessier: african or european?
16:13.50AgiNamutessier: african or european.
16:13.52AgiNamudamn
16:13.54ManxPowerAnyone that uses Asterisk CVS and is not on the asterisk-cvs mailing list is an idiot!
16:13.55tzangerKatty: so do I... 16M, 32M and a couple 512M
16:13.55tessierheh
16:14.05Shido6boink
16:14.07Kattytzanger: *smirk*
16:14.09SPoon_TSXHello there, Does anyone having an experience that the hardware phone will dial outgoing call no problem but it will hung up on any incoming call on excatly 3 seconds?
16:14.13KattyOH NOES
16:14.25Kattytessier: butbut, i know my favorite color.
16:14.29eKo1ManxPower: I resent that.
16:14.34queuetuetessier, Yes, and another box to babysit and maintain.  Only now, it's a 486 with a fan and hd/floppy that will fail any day now.  Putting substandard equipment in place for mission-critical jobs is dangerous.
16:14.46tessierqueuetue: uh...don't use a 486 with a fan and hd/floppy.
16:14.50Hmmhesayshaha I'm sick of people asking me if they can run voip on a 64k satellite connection
16:14.54tessierAnd don't use substandard equipment. Geez.
16:14.57Kattyanother dumb question!
16:14.57Shido6spoon
16:14.59Shido6what the heck
16:15.04ManxPowerDelvar: You'll sign up for the asterisk-cvs mailing list when your Asterisk breaks when you update often enough, because you didn't know about a specific change that impacts you
16:15.07KattyTopic: Dynamic Processing
16:15.25Kattydoes that mean the processor has queues of commands waiting to be run?
16:15.30tessierManxPower: Unfortunately, that is indeed a sign that asterisk isn't ready to do anything important. :(
16:15.33AgiNamuhmmhesays well, the answer is yes.
16:15.37AgiNamuso tell them yes and thats it.
16:15.38tessierAssuming stable isn't good enough for you.
16:15.40Kattyand it skips the 'job' it's on and looks at the next command?
16:15.41HmmhesaysAgiNamu: i know
16:15.42AgiNamuoh, wait, "yes and it sucks"
16:15.45ManxPowertessier: Only that CVS version is not ready for that
16:15.45DelvarManxPower: i know :P
16:15.46tessierUnfortunately stable has bitten me too.
16:15.51tessierManxPower: Indeed.
16:16.00AgiNamuno, you see ugys
16:16.04DelvarManxPower: i just like supprises
16:16.07ManxPowertessier: Yeah, but the GOAL of stable is NOT be bite people.  We are not there yet, but we are getting there.
16:16.10AgiNamuthe power of open source is that EVERYONE gets to run their OWN test lab!
16:16.14Hmmhesays750ms is good latency to some of these people
16:16.21fugitivotessier: lot of people say that about opensource software
16:16.26ManxPowerDelvar: Well don't come crying to me when your users burn you as a witch.
16:16.32AgiNamuWhy have a big centralized lab that tests for all sorts of conditions?? Just load it up on your own machine and makes sure it works!
16:16.33fugitivotessier: lot of people use opensource in their companies
16:16.40AgiNamuyou even get to develop your own load scripts and everything.
16:16.41DelvarManxPower: hmmm roast pork
16:16.43AgiNamuit's great!
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16:17.30AgiNamunow, lets start the discussion
16:17.32Hmmhesaysis iax2 trunking working good yet?
16:17.49AgiNamusomeone suggest that Asterisk be improved, by say, BVTs and a large test lab.
16:17.53AgiNamuthen someone respond that OSS is a gift.
16:18.09AgiNamuthen someone lament digium not making enough money to spend on it.
16:18.16AgiNamuand so on.
16:18.38queuetueThere si a pretty wide gap between 5.00 and 100.00 - I wonder why there ar eno third-party cards filling in the gaps at 10 and 50 bucks...
16:18.51AgiNamuthere are lots
16:18.57ManxPowerqueuetue: Many reasons.
16:19.01AgiNamuBut the quality or stabilty isnt guaranteed.
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16:19.22Hmmhesaysok there is no good reason to use silence suppression
16:19.23ManxPowerThe cheap FXO cards will be going away soon, since Intel stopped making them.
16:19.38fugitivoManxPower: no! oh god no!
16:19.41AgiNamuhmmhe wha?
16:19.44chapNot that they worked spectacularly well, anyway.
16:19.50ManxPowerfugitivo: Why do you think Digium stopped selling them?
16:19.59fugitivoi'm going to buy 100 now
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16:20.19HmmhesaysAgiNamu: can you think of a good reason to use silence supression?
16:20.27AgiNamusure, less bandwidth.
16:20.30fugitivoManxPower: don't know, why?
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16:20.39ManxPowerfugitivo: the X100P was designed for USA usage and doesn't work correctly in many other places.
16:20.40AgiNamualong the same reason I use G&29
16:20.44Hmmhesaysok, lets assume you're not using dialup
16:20.52fugitivoManxPower: it works perfect here
16:20.56Juxthello everyone
16:21.08ManxPowerfugitivo: except that it doesn't detect hangup all the time.
16:21.15fugitivoManxPower: Argentina, i had problems with hangup detection, but its solved after a talk with my provider
16:21.24MatsKManxPower: Do you still have a copy of the weatherscript that you could share ?
16:21.38tessierfugitivo: I know lots of people say that about open source software but it usually does not bite me as often as it has with *
16:21.38fugitivoManxPower: what is a replacement for the x100p?
16:21.45Hmmhesaystdm400
16:21.49Hmmhesaysp
16:21.55queuetueI get a charge out of these telco companies where you have to call some damned salesman to get a price - straight to the "no" bin...
16:21.58fugitivoHmmhesays: how much is that?
16:22.03ManxPowerMatsK: I tared up my entire site and donated it to asteriskdocs.org.  you can get the tarball at http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/wffs.tar.gz
16:22.05Hmmhesayswww.digium.com
16:22.08ManxPowerfugitivo: The TDM400P
16:22.12tessierqueuetue: What do you mean? Price on what?
16:22.16MatsKManxPower: THX
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16:22.17fugitivoManxPower: how much?
16:22.21Hmmhesayswww.digium.com
16:22.29ManxPowerfugitivo: about US$125
16:22.29queuetuetessier, the voicetronix stuff.
16:22.31tessierIt's pretty standard that you have to ask a salesperson for pricing on things where the price can be variable.
16:22.33AgiNamu$337 for the TDM400 with 4 FXO
16:22.40fugitivoManxPower: that's expensive
16:22.50Hmmhesaysfugitivo: are you drunk?
16:22.56ManxPowerfugitivo: it's only expensive if you've never tried upgrading a commercial PBX.
16:22.57queuetuetessier, There is a "price" button and if you click it, it takes you to a mailto for sales. :)
16:23.17Hmmhesays337 for 4 fxo is not expensive
16:23.20AgiNamuand you can buy a T1 card for like $500 or so
16:23.29queuetuetessier, "The price is avariable" means "we cheat everyone we can"...
16:23.31AgiNamuand a channelbank for like $1000 or so?
16:23.33tessierSaved a fortune. :)
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16:23.40AgiNamuso that brings the price per line down
16:24.20Juxtcan someone tell me how does vonage manage faxes over ip?
16:24.30Conductoris it possible to send a sip request with java to find out if a peer is busy or dnd`?
16:24.31ManxPowerJuxt: they say they do.
16:24.55Juxtwell it has to work
16:25.10AgiNamuthey use ulaw and just expect things to be perfect? or they use T38?
16:25.15fugitivoManxPower: if i want only one fxo for my house, that's expensive
16:25.29KattyHmmhesays: do gamers like intel or amd?
16:25.39Juxti don't think their ATA boxes do T38
16:25.47tessierJuxt: To do fax over IP you need a clean connection and no compression. That's all there is to it.
16:25.58tessierOur fax machine at our office is over IP using an ATA-186 and it works great.
16:25.58ManxPowerfugitivo: it's much cheaper than any other FXO PCI option
16:25.59fugitivoKatty: amd 64bit
16:26.00HmmhesaysKatty: depends on the gamer
16:26.08AgiNamu*clean* connectiong being the difficult part
16:26.17AgiNamuyea, I'll never buy AMD
16:26.18fugitivoManxPower: i can buy the x100p clone for $10
16:26.20AgiNamueven though the P4 design is shit
16:26.29HmmhesaysMost gamer's I run into prefer amd stuff
16:26.30tessierAgiNamu: Why not? I have been quite impressed with AMD so far
16:26.30AgiNamuI'll wait till there's a nice Pentium D out or something.
16:26.34KattyHmmhesays: the reason i ask is because amd isn't know for the fpu, which as i understand it, handles all 3d rendering.
16:26.41AgiNamucause i havent got the bad taste out of my head.
16:26.46AgiNamuof their incompatible chips years ago
16:26.48Hmmhesaysthe fpu handles all of your floating point math
16:26.50fugitivoKatty: amd 64 bit for sure
16:26.50ManxPowerfugitivo: no, you are buying an Intel WinModem that is marketed as an X100P clone for US$10
16:26.59KattyHmmhesays: which in turn is most 3d rendering
16:27.00AgiNamukatty, all 3D rendering is done on the video card
16:27.05fugitivoManxPower: so? it works
16:27.07HmmhesaysKatty: very good young jedi
16:27.13ManxPowerfugitivo: you are welcome to write drivers for other WinModem cards.
16:27.18tessierAgiNamu: I'm sure they were trying to be compatible, no?
16:27.19KattyAgiNamu: no it's not
16:27.23tzangerI buy badass video cards to use their VRAM for swap :-)
16:27.39AgiNamuok, almost all 3d functions are done on the video card
16:27.44KattyAgiNamu: k, better.
16:27.44tessiertzanger: Uh...
16:27.52Hmmhesaysgames however do not take advantage of amd's different instruction set unless the game is specifically written for an amd processor
16:27.52tessiertzanger: Why not just buy more RAM? :)
16:27.54AgiNamuand not often is the CPU the bottleneck for more frames/sec.
16:27.54fugitivoManxPower: don't you think people should have a cheap option?
16:28.07tzangertessier: sometimes that's not an option.  and CAD$80 for a 256M video card isn't bad
16:28.09KattyHmmhesays: do video cards have their own processor?
16:28.13HmmhesaysKatty: yes
16:28.15Hmmhesaysthe GPU
16:28.22AgiNamuand the GPU is powerful as shit
16:28.25Kattyi'm so not a gamer.
16:28.37AgiNamuNVidia's GeForce FX GPU has 3 times the transistors of a P4, for instance.
16:28.39Kattythat would explain why there are big heat sinks on video cards  ;)
16:28.47Hmmhesaysthe gpu is powerful because it is designed for a specific task in mind
16:28.53AgiNamuand why some take up two slots, require a molex power connection
16:28.59chapfugitivo: The marketplace should dictate what is available, and what is not.
16:29.00Kattyyes, but back to the CPU
16:29.04AgiNamuand why you can easily spend $2000 on a video card.
16:29.06Hmmhesaysmy voodoo 5500 requires a molex connector
16:29.08tessierLots of people talk about offloading all kinds of things to the GPU but the time required to code it just isn't worth it.
16:29.17DrWho17yes it is
16:29.22KattyHmmhesays: if the cpu using the fpu for numbers that aren't whole...
16:29.24tessierBy the time you perfect your GPU code the next generation of cpu's will be faster than using the GPU.
16:29.33AgiNamutessier, that's not probable.
16:29.36tessierThen they come out with a new GPU chipset and you get to start all over again, always behind the curve.
16:29.45KattyHmmhesays: and amd's fpu kinda sucks...
16:29.51tessierAgiNamu: That is the very reason why nobody has done it yet.
16:29.59AgiNamuand if you stick with one vendor, say nvidia....
16:30.03tessierA few people tried and that is exactly what they ran into.
16:30.05AgiNamuit doesnt need a full rewrite every time.
16:30.11`SauronKatty: Why're you reading about processor design? Just curious.
16:30.25KattyHmmhesays: what else does the fpu do besides 3d rendering (autocad) stuff?
16:30.27tessierAgiNamu: We don't even have good open source drivers for nvidia. You think someone is gonna write something to make use of the gpu?
16:30.31Katty`Sauron: company wants me a+ certified.
16:30.32Hmmhesaysbut even by vendor they intruction sets change
16:30.42AgiNamukatty, even in autocad, a lot of the 3d work is offloaded
16:30.47AgiNamuexcept when doing a final pass
16:30.52KattyAgiNamu: then what does the fpu do?
16:30.53`SauronKatty: the FPU does all the floating poing math, whether it's cad/3d related or not.
16:30.59tzangerAgiNamu: our drafting guy shave badass CPUs and badass video cards
16:31.05AgiNamui.e. when doing rendering in 3d studio, mental ray, etc.
16:31.06Katty`Sauron: k, that doesn't tell me much.
16:31.11tzangerit's not like hte old days of using 387emu to gat acad 10 to work on my 386 :-)
16:31.13`Sauron<Katty> Hmmhesays: what else does the fpu do besides 3d rendering (autocad)
16:31.13`Sauron<PROTECTED>
16:31.15tessierIf you add 1.0 and 1.0 to get 2.0 that's a job for the fpu.
16:31.21`SauronAnswered your question. :)
16:31.24HmmhesaysKatty: google on the definition of a floating point operation
16:31.28Kattytessier: no. the alu handles whol enumbers.
16:31.28Hmmhesaysyou'll understand
16:31.29AgiNamuThere's 2 kinds. rendering realtime 3d with opengl, direct3d, etc.
16:31.37sudhir492what port does IAX2 use?
16:31.37KattyHmmhesays: k
16:31.42AgiNamu4569
16:31.47tessierKatty: The ALU handles 1 and 1 to get 2
16:31.47sudhir492thx
16:31.47AgiNamuand rendering some file to an image or likewise.
16:31.53tessier1.0 is a float. :)
16:31.53`SauronBasically, for a CPU to do integer math, is easy.
16:32.12tzangera CPU can do any kind of math easily... at least what it's been designed for
16:32.20`SauronHowever, floating point calculations would have to be turned into integer calculations, calculated, then turned back into FP
16:32.30tzangerthere are DSPs that can throw around floating point numbers faster than any CPU can handle integers
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16:32.37`SauronSo they created FPU's to offload the floating point calculations to
16:32.39Hmmhesayswhich isn't so bad if you are doing 1.039/2.017
16:32.47tessiertzanger: Unfortunately they have the same problem as GPU's in graphics cards
16:32.53tzangertessier: depends
16:32.59tzangerDSPs are dark, dark juju
16:33.02tessierNobody uses dsp's in PC's because they take forever to program and by the time you have the new generation of cpu has overtaken your dsp.
16:33.07tessierYes, there are exceptions
16:33.13AgiNamuyes, there are. :P
16:33.16DrWho17yes, like sound cards
16:33.18tessierBut I have never personally run into anyone who used dsp hardware. They are extremely rare.
16:33.26Hmmhesaysunless you are written embedded stuff of course
16:33.27DrWho17which all use programmable DSP's
16:33.27tzangerthe first foray I ever took into fixed-point math was for sound
16:33.28tessierI am talking about a special DSP board to offload calculations onto.
16:33.31Hmmhesays*writing even
16:33.38tzangerI wrote an S3M player
16:33.42`Sauronfpga > dsp's ;)
16:33.42tessierYou are right that sound cards have a dsp. As do modems etc. iirc
16:33.43AgiNamuAt IPTEL show last year there was a QuadT1 card with DSPs for $2K
16:33.47Hmmhesayssay you are writing an ap for say ... and dreamcast
16:33.53implicit`Sauron, ?
16:33.54Hmmhesaysgood lord I can't type today
16:33.56AgiNamuor maybe it was an 8-T1
16:34.07Hmmhesays*app, a dreamcast
16:34.09tessierLack of DSP is probably the biggest fault of the digium T1/E1 cards.
16:34.12tzangerwhatever happened to atacomm's tdm card?
16:34.17DrWho17tessier: sure, just wished Digium had them
16:34.24tzangertessier: not really.... lack of even a tiny buffer is their single biggest failing
16:34.28tessierNowadays I'm afraid I always resort to Cisco for that.
16:34.33tessiertzanger: Good point.
16:34.45`SauronDoes anyone know of PRI/T1 cards that have DSP's on them?
16:34.51Hmmhesayshaha damn openvpn  it won't start
16:34.51tessiertzanger: Your system better be real time :)
16:34.52DrWho17Sauron: sure
16:34.53`SauronAgiNamu: Do you know what company had that card?
16:34.54tzangereven a tiny 5 or 10ms buffer would be soooo much nicer
16:34.57implicit`Sauron, just get a media gateway
16:34.58AgiNamuI forget the name :\
16:35.03DrWho17(not sure if it would be appropriate to name them)
16:35.10DrWho17her
16:35.12DrWho17here
16:35.12tessierDrWho17: Sure it would!
16:35.21AgiNamuof course
16:35.27tessierDrWho17: We're all looking for the best solution. Sometimes digium isn't it.
16:35.29`Sauronimplicit: Nope. I need the DSP channelised PRI, so I can do fax stuff with it properly.
16:35.35tessierI bet even Mark would tell you that.
16:35.41implicitDrWho17, why would it not be appropriate?
16:35.41DrWho17sangoma
16:35.55DrWho17implicit: Digium sells hardware
16:35.57implicitsangoma doesn'th ave any card like that on the market or completed yet
16:35.57tzangersangoma makes damn fine TDM hardware
16:36.09implicitDrWho17, so why does that make you digiums bitch ? :)
16:36.17implicitDrWho17, microsoft sells software
16:36.32tessierimplicit: He's afraid kram is going hungry.
16:36.36implicitlol
16:36.40implicit:)
16:36.44DrWho17yea, well I wouldn't promote linux software on a microsoft channel either
16:36.53tessierWe're gonna see Sally Struthers standing in front of TV cameras on his front yard with a really sad face....
16:36.56HmmhesaysI prefer my isa winmodem
16:36.56implicitwell this is an asterisk channel
16:36.59implicitnot a digium channel
16:37.03`SauronDrWho: Last I looked, I couldn't figure out if the sangoma cards would show up as serial ports in linux
16:37.05sudhir492I finally managed to get Asterisk on FC3 !!!
16:37.15tzanger...
16:37.19sudhir492including OH323
16:37.24tzangerISA *win*modem?  There were controllerless modems on ISA?
16:37.25tessiersudhir492: You stud.
16:37.29DrWho17Sauron: I don't have any, but I mentioned DSP's on the list, and had a couple vendors contact me off list
16:37.30tessierOH323 is heinous.
16:37.36tessierI am trying like hell not to touch h323.
16:37.36`SauronHum.
16:37.41Hmmhesaystzanger: i was just throwing words together
16:37.44DrWho17Sangoma was one, and the salesman said they had DSP's
16:37.51tessierBeen burned by it too many times in the past.
16:37.59tzangersangoma's cards disable the DSP for asterisk use IIRC
16:38.09SPoon_TSXHello there, Do anyone having any problem on incoming call drop on first 3 seconds of conversation?
16:38.09`SauronWhich is sad
16:38.16sudhir492tessier: I have no choice but to use H323. Either use chan_h323 or oh323.
16:38.24DrWho17well, anyway I'm moving to TNT's
16:38.32Juxtso how realistic would it be to send a fax on ulaw at say 9600 baud
16:38.35Hmmhesayssudhir492: You can fix it! you have the technology!
16:38.36DrWho17so it shouldn't be an issue anymore
16:38.46tessiersudhir492: Unfortunately that is often the case. Other equipment doesn't do sip sometimes.
16:38.54cbachmanI have a page from a magazine on my wall with Sally Struthers: Thinking of running your critical apps on NT? Isn't there enough world suffering?
16:39.04tzangerhahaha
16:39.09dwmw2Juxt: that works for me -- my ISDN is ulaw and receives faxes with spandsp OK
16:39.22implicitjuxt: y not t.38
16:39.24tessiercbachman: Nice!
16:39.35Hmmhesaysspandsp works great with ulaw if you have a crossover cable connected between your voip hardware and the asterisk unit
16:39.36tzangerI have a page from a TIME magazine ...  it shows a square bicycle wheel and it says "square wheel" under it
16:39.36Juxtcause i'll never find an ata that supports t.38
16:39.37sudhir492Hmmhesays: fix what?
16:39.45cbachmantessier, it's an advertisement from Sun :-)
16:39.47tzangerand to the right of it is the exact same tire with "e-squarewheel.com" under it
16:39.47implicitmany providers accept it
16:39.50Hmmhesayssudhir492: i was making a reference to an old american television show
16:39.57tzangerand at the bottom of the ad it says "putting a bad idea on the internet doesn't make it better"
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16:40.11dwmw2Hmmhesays: well, I don't have VoIP involved at all in fax reception
16:40.25tzangerand on my desk here at work I have an ad ripped out of a mag that says "tired of all the e-bs?"
16:40.26implicitjuxt: yes u can
16:40.26Juxtimplicit: you mean many providers accept t.38?
16:40.31implicityes
16:40.33HmmhesaysI don't have any in production.... just on my test bench
16:40.47Juxtimplicit: which ata support t38?
16:40.47implicitmany of the ones i use
16:40.48tzangerit's right beside the one that says "what kind of maniac creates something when no one is asking for it?"
16:41.10Hmmhesayswho needs more than 64k of memory
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16:42.11`SauronHum.
16:42.30`Sauronanyone remember the Digi RasFire cards?
16:42.45epochHmmhesays: it was 640k :)
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16:42.56Hmmhesaysohwell, my memory fails me
16:43.07epochyou only have 64k apparently
16:43.08epoch;)
16:43.10Juggiewho remembers VLB and computer programs on casette tapes :)
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16:43.17sudhir492Hmmhesays: sorry, I missed the punchline
16:43.27`SauronWell, they were dense digital modem cards
16:43.36Hmmhesayssudhir492: that was the punchline, it was a lame joke
16:43.42[Outcast]does anyone know how to get a sipura to send a disconnect signal to phone?
16:43.49epochit's not a joke, it's a bill gates quote! :)
16:43.56sudhir492tessier: are you using chan_h323?
16:44.03tessiersudhir492: Nope.
16:44.04`Sauron2 or 4 port PRI cards, that turned into /dev/ttyG* in linux
16:44.11tessierI tried to use it a few times.
16:44.25`Sauronand I have to replace 2 of them in the next 9 months, but it's a pain to find a replacement card.. .:/
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16:44.41sudhir492what happened?
16:44.45AgiNamui'd like to get T.38 onto the PA168
16:44.50AgiNamuTHAT'd kick ass.
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16:45.40AgiNamui remember tape loaded programs. that sucked.
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16:46.10Juxttape loaded programs rocked :-)
16:46.29WazbHi
16:46.30zoaand then transmitting those over radio waves
16:46.31zoa:)
16:47.15AgiNamuhaha, i fixed another PA168 IAX2 bug
16:47.16AgiNamuwai wai!
16:47.43Wazbi am new to Asterisk , i am getting problem installing OpenH323 driver in Astersik , can nayone hlep me
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16:48.16sudhir492Asterisk works well on FC3 with iptables disabled, need to figure out what to change in the default settings
16:49.54sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: what versions of PWLib and OH323 are needed for chan_h323? The Readme file in h323 points to versions of both which are not there on sourceforge :-(
16:50.17file[laptop]AgiNamu: do you have the source or something?
16:51.18tessierI'm pretty sure all of #asterisk is tired of hearing about how crappy h323 support is. :(
16:51.39tessierIf you need h323 asterisk probably isn't the solution to your problem.
16:52.13jakepdevit could be one day
16:52.27tessierIndeed.
16:52.28ManxPowersudhir492: That is the version you need.
16:52.43JerJer[mobile]if people would follow thru on their bug reports H.323 support would be better
16:52.49JerJer[mobile]and proper motivation is another factor
16:52.52ManxPowersudhir492: http://www.nufone.net/downloads/
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16:53.07bkw_JerJer[mobile], and people willing to pay
16:53.11bkw_and say thanks helps too
16:53.19bkw_most people go "give me give me give me" and never give back
16:53.24jakepdevthanks bkw
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16:54.01scoofdoes anybody know if chan_sccp has some mailinglists, or is it all going on on the asterisk-lists?
16:54.50JerJer[mobile]ManxPower: that is only for the highly broken code on -stable
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16:55.45ManxPowerI'll send drumkilla a request to remove chan_h323 from -stable.
16:56.17AgiNamufile: yes.
16:56.22ManxPowersince it's broken
16:56.33AgiNamuit wasn't handling a secondary call coming in.
16:56.58AgiNamuinstead, it rejected the second call, and then reset itself, killing (but not disconnecting) the current call
16:57.06sudhir492bkw_: I have not been able to say thanks to you and so many developers of asterisk personally, but I appreciate very much. Thanks a lot.
16:57.13bjohnsonbkw_: I want to take this opportunity to thank you for all of your hard work and contributions to the software that I use for free
16:57.50file[laptop]AgiNamu: ah
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16:58.24MikeJ[Laptop]bkw, gimmie gimmie gimmie
16:58.29sudhir492Everytime I talk to digium folks, and I buy all the cards from Digium, I always express my appreciation. Once again, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
16:58.35Juxtso which ata supports t.38 - i already checked out like 10 of them
16:58.46`SauronHumm.
16:58.48`SauronManx
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16:59.08WazbCan anyone help me what is chan_h323
16:59.13Essobihah
16:59.21jakepdevwazb - you're funny
16:59.34bjohnsonJuxt: I don't think any of them do
17:00.23AgiNamuI'm enamoured with the Pa168
17:00.27`SauronFor those who heard my earlier PRI/dsp card question.. I'm looking for a digital modem card with 1 or 2 T1 ports, that's linux supported.
17:00.37Wazbi told you guys in beg. i am new to Asterisk
17:00.44`SauronAll my google searching brings me to old postfix-users and hylafax list messages I've written. :(
17:00.45AgiNamuJuxt, why not add T38 support to the PA168?
17:00.47sudhir492Wazb: what you dont know will not hurt you :-)
17:01.18WazbPlease guide me ...
17:02.07jakepdevWazb - h323 doesn't work on * reliably
17:02.17JuxtAgiNamu: isn't it closed source?
17:02.35sudhir492Wazb: if you have no choice, but to use H323, then chan_h323 or oh323 is there to your rescue
17:02.57AgiNamujuxt, no.
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17:03.23jakepdevI take issue with "to your rescue" :)
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17:03.42sudhir492jakepdev: you may have a point!
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17:03.50JuxtAlthough the code is closed-source, it's pretty easy (compared to most closed-source products) to obtain redacted source for the firmware.
17:04.09ManxPowerH323 is NOT for beginners
17:04.12AgiNamuactually, parts of it is open source.
17:04.19twisted[work]H323 is not for anyone :P
17:04.34twisted[work]I would enjoy seeing it go up in a puff of smooke
17:04.36twisted[work]smoke, too.
17:04.39Hmmhesaysas much as I don't like h.323, that's not true twisted
17:04.48JerJer[mobile]jakepdev:  H.323 DOES work reliably, if you know  WTF you are doing
17:04.53JerJer[mobile]and follow the README
17:05.00JerJer[mobile]and run -head
17:05.11twisted[work]Hmmhesays, learn how to decypher emoticons :)
17:05.18jakepdevJeremy - I've been advised by many who tried and failed
17:05.28Hmmhesays;) no way twisted
17:05.43sudhir492jakepdev: I have not had any experience with chan_h323 yet. I have used oh323 which has its warts.
17:06.03JerJer[mobile]jakepdev:  tell that to the 20+ systems i've setup with chan_h323
17:06.17Hmmhesaysboth chan_h323 and chan_oh323 have worked well for me in the past
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17:07.11sudhir492jakepdev: However, after some experince, I have been able to use oh323 with enough reliability. I would guess chan_h323 should be same
17:07.31jakepdevqhat about the reports of lockups after 200 calls?
17:07.45ManxPowerNobody ever said chan_h323 was EASY for a beginner.
17:07.46JerJer[mobile]absolutely cannot duplcate
17:07.51jakepdevincorrect configs?
17:08.08sudhir492jakepdev: I have not had that problem
17:08.24JerJer[mobile]i even ssh'd into one persons box that was bitching and he very smply did not have the right versions of Open H.323
17:08.28JerJer[mobile]ala did not follow the readme
17:08.42JerJer[mobile]*version
17:09.04Hmmhesayswho follows the readme's it's more interesting if you don't
17:09.18Shido6wow
17:09.29jakepdevgreg - do you agree?
17:09.40ManxPowerI'm sure that's pretty common, JerJer[mobile].  Most software does NOT need specific minor versions of the libs it links too.  On the other hand, most applications don't link to succh buggy libs.
17:09.44Shido6those who read the readmes make the 85/hr
17:09.55ManxPowerShido6: Only $85?
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17:09.58jakepdevthose who don't pay the $85 an hour
17:10.47Shido6those who dont pay, read and struggle through it - nothing against that but it helps to have someone assist if you're demoing something or need something withint a specific time frame
17:11.00Shido6it does have a learning curve
17:11.03pigpenJust found out that you can port your vonage phone numbers away to a different provider...
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17:11.22Shido6but most of the time, it just takes a little reading and people generally dont want to read
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17:11.31ManxPowerI'm a BIG fan of spending other people's money to fix problems.
17:11.44JerJer[mobile]ManxPower:  it iis not the libraries fault this time - H.323 is a whore of a protocol
17:11.44tzangerManxPower: :-)
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17:12.17ManxPowerJerJer[mobile]: Then why do you require EXACT versions for the libs?
17:12.18pigpenany way to have * ignore caller id info from a particular fxo sip client?
17:12.31Shido6LOL
17:12.35ManxPowerpigpen: callerid= in sip.conf
17:12.37Shido6quote of the day
17:12.56pigpenhmm...I will give it a shot.
17:13.09JerJer[mobile]ManxPower:  all software has dependencies
17:13.31ManxPowerJerJer[mobile]: Yeah, but asterisk does not depend on an exact version of openssl.
17:13.42JerJer[mobile]and people kept bitchng that chan_h323 didn't work and 90% of the time they had some crazy old distro inistalled version
17:13.45JerJer[mobile]whch will not work
17:13.56ManxPowerObviously many things change between even minor versions of OpenH323
17:13.58JerJer[mobile]so we elected to force the makefile to require specific versions
17:14.43ManxPowerSo the OpenH323 people are either idiots (changing major things in minor releases) or OpenH323 is very buggy.
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17:15.03JerJer[mobile]more like H.323 is a shitty protocol with very very limited interoperability
17:15.23ManxPowerJerJer[mobile]: Any way to put the exact openh323/pwlib version in the test that shows in "show modules"?
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17:15.40sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: on nufone.net/downloads I see openh323 1.12.2 and pwlib 1.5.2.  The Readme in h323 asks to use Open H.323 v1.15.1 and PWLib v1.8.1 which are not there on sourceforge :-( What is the way out?
17:15.41ManxPowertest = text
17:15.43pigpenManxPower: looks like it is a sipura issue
17:16.18pigpenIf I call the fxo number...with vonage sending caller id info...it never passes it to *
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17:16.28pigpenIf I call it with *67...works fine.
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17:19.14JerJer[mobile]sudhir492:  which is for cvs -head
17:19.17JerJer[mobile]er
17:19.21JerJer[mobile]which is NOT for cvs -head
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17:21.44JerJer[mobile]looks like they pulled that version for some reason
17:21.46JerJer[mobile]leme update
17:22.37sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: Will you please tell me a compatible version of Asterisk, OpenH323 and PWlib so that I am able to use chan_h323? I will appreciate that very much!
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17:24.23pigpenIs there negatives with me hooking up a pri to a cisco 7507 and passing the voip over to the * box?
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17:24.31ManxPowerpigpen: yes.
17:24.32pigpenI have a big router...and lots of ports
17:24.38pigpenwhat would that be?
17:24.46ManxPowerpigpen: you have lots of Cisco voice cards in your box?
17:24.56ManxPowerpigpen: You can't control the PRI using Asterisk.
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17:25.15pigpenah..so we would need some voice cards for the 7507
17:25.24ManxPowerpigpen: most people with T-1 ports on their Ciscos do NOT have cards that support voice.
17:25.42ManxPowerpigpen: if you want to terminate voice in the Cisco you need Voice cards and DSP cards
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17:25.53tzangeryeah I'll terminate voice to my AS5248s.  :-)
17:25.57pigpenok..I am pretty sure we don't...
17:26.38pigpenok..so best bet   a digium card?
17:26.43ManxPowerpigpen: yes
17:26.46pigpenk
17:26.51Dovidhello
17:26.53ManxPoweror Voicetronix or Sagnoma
17:27.12Dovidi am trying to make zaptal and i am getting the following error can anyone help ?
17:27.32Dovid"/usr/include/linux/proc_fs.h:193: warning: `create_proc_read_entry' declared `static' but never defined"
17:28.50pigpenManxPower: ok..lets say I have dsp...and disadvantages?
17:28.57JerJer[mobile]DIGIUM
17:29.04JerJer[mobile]not supported
17:29.07JerJer[mobile]pigpen: ^
17:29.21pigpenDigium is not supported??  :)
17:29.25JerJer[mobile]dsp
17:29.26pigpenyeah...true.
17:29.38bonez39anyone here using Skype? just read about it, curious what others have to say
17:29.42JerJer[mobile]voicetronix is a joke
17:29.57JerJer[mobile]and i've heard some serious horror stories about sagnoma's card
17:30.38Hmmhesaysdig deep enough everyone has a horror story
17:31.00MuppetMasterbonez39:  Yes.
17:31.10Dovidanyone that can help ?
17:31.11JerJer[mobile]at least Digium stands behind their hardware and asterisk
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17:31.17Daminhttp://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?site=lightreading&doc_id=71020
17:31.29pigpenI know this kinda goes against the grain..but anyone look into Atacomm's 4 port card?
17:31.34DaminI got quoted..
17:31.54MuppetMasterbonez39:  The strength of Skype is it's ease of use and ability to slice through firewalls (although IAX does that quite nicely as well).
17:31.55bonez39MuppetMaster: does it work well for you?
17:32.10MuppetMasterbonez39:  It does work fine for me, although I don't like having to have a computer around to use the phone.
17:32.24MuppetMasterbonez39:  Skype = casual chats, Asterisk = business.
17:32.26bonez39MuppetMaster: I was reading that skype encrypts all the communication..so I assume the government will soon want to gut it and disable it, if they could...
17:32.33johnnybIs there a way to get AGI scripts to terminate if the other party hangs up?
17:32.47Hmmhesaysblah skype's ability to slice through firewalls is dependant on people using skype with public ip's acting as a proxy
17:32.54MuppetMasterjohnnyb:  If you are listening for events on the Manager API, then yes.
17:33.04bonez39MuppetMaster: do you refer to the IAXy device to connect phone to ethernet or cable ?
17:33.10MuppetMasterHmmhesays:  Absolutely, and there are obviously enough of those.
17:33.16johnnybMuppetMaster: I'm not familiar with the Manager API -- just using Asterisk::AGI
17:33.25Hmmhesaysapparently there is
17:33.28MuppetMasterbonez39:  I am referring to the IAX2 protocol, of which the IAXy supports.
17:33.35bonez39ok....
17:33.48Hmmhesaysit's no different than having asterisk act as a proxy to slice through the same firewall
17:34.07MuppetMasterHmmhesays:  Skype is not a silver bullet, there is no magic about slicing through firewalls.  But, with folks out there unwittingly sharing their bandwidth/resources, they seem to provide a compelling service.
17:34.26Hmmhesaysyeah, it's good thing most folks don't read the documentation
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17:34.35MuppetMasterHmmhesays:  And for your typical user, Skype is loads easier and distributed, so the cost of adding additional users for Skype is next to zero.
17:34.38HmmhesaysI admit it... I use skype
17:34.43Hmmhesaysand it works well
17:34.45MuppetMasterHmmhesays:  Yes, I make sure I firewall it.
17:34.59MuppetMasterHmmhesays:  Have a look on the forums over at Skype, I try to keep them honest.
17:35.14HmmhesaysI leave mine running on a public ip at night when I leave work
17:35.25MuppetMasterHmmhesays:  What a nice person you are.
17:35.31MuppetMasterHmmhesays:  Bandwidth for the masses.
17:35.50Hmmhesaysdon't get me wrong, it is good, but there is nothing really specially about it
17:35.56Hmmhesays*really special
17:36.01MuppetMasterjohnnyb:  Just a moment, here are some details...
17:36.57MuppetMasterjohnnyb:  Here is a description of the Manager API:  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+manager+API
17:37.14Hmmhesaysthe manager is pretty slick... I hear there is talk of changing it though
17:37.17MuppetMasterjohnnyb:  And if you are developing in Java here is a great library:  http://asterisk-java.sourceforge.net/
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17:38.00MuppetMasterjohnnyb:  There are great examples in there on how to listen for events.  And if you use the FastAGI with that Java implementation, you may open the Manager API once, listen for events, and stop your AGI transactions based on certain events.
17:38.27johnnybMuppetMaster: So I would have an AGI, and a manager script which kills my AGI on hangup?
17:38.33MuppetMasterjohnnby:  I have written some Java apps with it to open MySQL and Jabber once.  As with PHP I was having to do it with each launch of an AGI.
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17:39.42MuppetMasterjohnnyb:  Depending on your implementation.  You would have a FastAGI server, that is invoked when you send it an AGI request from your dialplan.  That same FastAGI server (which is a Java app) is listening for all events on the ManagerAPI.  When an event (ie - hangup) occurs on the channel that you are processing in your AGI, you could then exit the AGI.
17:40.02MuppetMasterOf course you could do it all in C/C++ as well.
17:40.31Hmmhesaysyou can do it in any language that supports sockets
17:40.37SkySkyhi, i wonder how would the priority goes if i dial to multiple ppl?
17:40.53MuppetMasterSkySky:  Depends on how you write the dialplan.
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17:43.27SkySkyie. I have exten => s,1,Dial(SIP/100&SIP/101,15,tr). if all of them are unavailable.. priority goes to 102 right? wat if 1 is disconnected, and one is available? etc.etc..
17:44.05harryvvsip show peers skysky
17:44.10MuppetMasterSkySky:  On your first assumption yes.  On the second, it will ring the one that is connected.
17:44.33SkySkyand priority would stay in 1 until 15 seconds after then goes to 2 right?
17:44.38MuppetMasterSkySky:  And report in the CLI that it failed to create a SIP channel on the first one.
17:44.45MuppetMasterSkySky:  Correct.
17:45.24SkySkyicic.. thank you very much^^ (because im planning to make a queue for a group, thx for the help!!!)
17:45.53kingcobrai have two pstn lines, currently connected to * via two X100Ps; i'd like to get away from the X100Ps; are two SPA-3000s still a good way to go? or is there better hw out there now?
17:46.31[pkh]off-topic a bit, but does anyone know of a channel where I could get information on using kphone for making outgoing external calls?
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17:47.41harryvvgoogle would know
17:48.23[pkh]harryvv: been looking.  just thought I'd ask here if someone knew...
17:48.58twisted[work]whoot.
17:49.09twisted[work]if anyone sees manxpower tell him i said thanks, but i fixed the issue. ;)
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17:49.29lyroyWhat is the codec I need to use with a Sipura 2000 please
17:49.41harryvvtwisted what was it?
17:50.30cbachmankingcobra, for external, probably, for internal/pci digium's card would work too, and be the same price (but not get you two fxs ports)
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17:52.17kingcobracbachman: thanks; i like the idea of having them be standalone; the digium X100Ps have recently started crashing my linux box; i don't have time at the moment to figure out why;
17:54.27MuppetMasterlyroy:  Depends on how you have your Sipura 2K configured.
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17:54.38MuppetMasterIt supports several codecs, including G711 and G729.
17:55.13Lee__where does one buy a g729 licence?
17:55.21MuppetMasterLee__:  From Digium on their website.
17:55.35Lee__or where does one buy phones with speex support
17:55.50MuppetMasterLee__:  Depends on what you need.
17:56.12Lee__SIP or IAX handsets for a small business PBX
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17:56.29Lee__the speex 8kbps quality is too good to ignore
17:56.49MuppetMasterLee__:  You will find more that support SIP, and if you want to use them with something besides Asterisk you will be able to.  IAX2 is great, but locks you into Asterisk.
17:57.01MuppetMasterLee__:  True, speex is great and opensource.
17:57.15Lee__I haven't found any phones that can enc/dec speex
17:57.31MuppetMasterLee__:  No, but plenty that do G729 or G711
17:59.43lyroyI always have that message when I try to answer an incoming calls:  rtp.c:540 ast_rtp_read: Unknown RTP codec 65 received
17:59.54lyroydoes someone know what i'm doing wrong
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18:02.22Kelcan anyone in here higher a hitman for me? I'm not exactly asterisk savvy and I'm trying to work with a client who doesn't know what they want and I just want to die now :-\ stupid clients.
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18:02.45Hmmhesaysstfu and gbtw usually works out pretty well
18:03.19MuppetMasterBusiness would be so much easier without customers...
18:03.26Kellol, indeed.
18:04.12KelI'm a sysadmin, not a voip monkey :-\ So this is just a tinge more red for me, but whatever. It looks/sounds like a cool technology so I look forward to learning it... it would just be nice if I got to do it under less... stupid circumstances.
18:04.27Kelor rather, I'm a sysadmin who's never messed with voip before
18:04.31MuppetMasterKel:  Are you looking to find some specific information?
18:04.52MuppetMasterKel:  It's easy.  Much easier to come from *nix to Asterisk than from a telecom background to Asterisk...  IMHO
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18:06.59genoobienext generation of communication...shouting louder...
18:07.06genoobieHEY
18:07.11genoobieYOU HEAR ME...:)
18:07.55KelNot yet
18:08.18KelRight now we're just flattening out what he wants. Sadly I know nothing of the hardware so I'm googling the hell out of every fifth word and acronym he throws at me
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18:08.55goatmilkgenoobie: I SHALL SMITE THEE
18:09.03MuppetMasterKel:  Great place to get your feet wet is http://www.voip-info.org.
18:09.13MuppetMasterThat is the VoIP and Asterisk Wiki.
18:09.37MuppetMasterKel:  Also, to get a quick system up and running on an old platform you could give http://asteriskathome.sourceforge.net a shot.
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18:12.04genoobiepeace y'all
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18:12.56jhivergood evening everybody
18:13.16kimchiya all.. got a little echo problem here..
18:13.40jhiver...echo problem here ...problem here ...here... re
18:13.47jhiverokay that was bad, sorry :)
18:13.55kimcSIP phone -> fxo port, getting echo on the SIP side
18:14.14kimcany thoughts ?
18:14.16jhiverso it's a SIP ATA?
18:14.30jhiveror is it a SIP -> Asterisk -> FXO setup?
18:15.01kimcyes jhiver, -> FX0 -> pots phone
18:15.21jhiverWell I have the same setup
18:15.29jhiverwith a cheapo grandstream I have echo
18:15.42kimcThe SIP phone is Sipura 841
18:15.48jhiverwith a sipura I don't
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18:16.09kimcHuh.. wonder how to test the hybrid null on the FXO port
18:16.14jhiverhave u tried using an alternate SIP client, just to see wether it's your FXO or the SIP phone?
18:16.31jhiverlike u could get firefly and try with it
18:16.34kimcjhiver: no have not, which client?
18:16.40kimcok
18:17.03kimcSIP -> Asterisk -> SIP no problem
18:17.11Kelhm
18:17.15KelI just pissed him off
18:17.20KelLuckily it's not the client i'm working directly with
18:17.21jhiverok then it's prolly your FXO...
18:17.23Kelbut someone else within my ocmpany
18:17.29Kel"I don't understand how you can in the same sentence acknowledge not knowing anything about this, then argue against the person who does and is taking time out of his day to help us."
18:17.36KelI have a friend helping me out a little bit
18:17.43kimcThe FXO is in a TDM-11B card
18:17.57jhiverDamn, it's supposingly good stuff
18:18.01kimcyeh
18:18.07jhiverCan't you adjust impedance somewhere?
18:18.16bimmerd00dhi, im trying to install asterisk, and upon running make clean; make install in the zaptel directory, i get an error "make: cc: Command Not found"
18:18.17jhivermight be something to do with that...
18:18.19implicitjhiver, :)
18:18.30jhiver??
18:18.40kimcI haven't run across a method to adjust the impedance
18:18.50jhiveroh I think there is, lemme see my config
18:19.03jhivermight be in zaptel drivers or zapata.conf or something
18:19.12kimcThat'd be great
18:20.01kimcI acts like there is very little isolation between tx/rx on the FXO port
18:20.07bimmerd00danyone have any ideas why i wouldn't be able to compile zaptel?
18:20.57jakepdevbd - what's the error?
18:21.15fugitivobimmerd00d: what distribution? you don't have the c compiler installed
18:21.25PTG1234anyone use a cisco when i dial 1001 it brinsg up automatically 10011 and i can't clear the last 1.. cisco 7960
18:21.25bimmerd00dsarge
18:21.27bimmerd00ddebian
18:21.38bimmerd00di'm somewhat new to linux too
18:21.50fugitivobimmerd00d: type this: gcc --version
18:22.02goatmilkbimmerd00d: and using debian?  wow, you're a real trooper.
18:22.20jhiveryou could read those posts:
18:22.22jhiverhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+zapata+gain+adjustment
18:22.27epochhrm
18:22.27bimmerd00dgoatmilk: it's per the boss' request here at work, he told me to learn as much as i can about it
18:22.35kimcthanks, brb
18:22.36Moc____anyone know the list if library needed to get spandsp to work with a redhat enterprise 4 ?
18:22.49bimmerd00dfugitivo: it says command not found when i put in gcc --version
18:22.49fugitivobimmerd00d: did you type that?
18:22.52zaptelPTG1234, sounds like you have 1001 stored in your personal directory
18:22.55fugitivobimmerd00d: install gcc
18:22.59goatmilkbimmerd00d: boss is a smart man, listen to his advice
18:23.01epochI remember reading something about Polycom's new 1.4.1 SIP image not supporting reboot via SIP NOTIFY anymore...  anyone know anything about that?
18:23.25bimmerd00dgoatmilk: i know debian is not the easiest distro to learn, but who am i to say no
18:23.29fugitivobimmerd00d: you should learn about apt-get, you need to read a lot
18:23.46fugitivobimmerd00d: or just go with fedora
18:23.46jhiverok there's some more talk about impedance on this page: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-digium
18:23.49PTG1234no its just in placed calls
18:23.52PTG1234how do i clear placed calls?
18:23.54PTG1234i see a keep
18:23.57PTG1234i don't see a delete :)
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18:24.19kimcjhiver: thanks muchly
18:24.34bimmerd00dfugitivo: i know how to use apt-get
18:24.37zaptelPTG1234: just reseting the phone
18:24.41jhiveralthough it doesn't say how to set it...
18:24.55fugitivobimmerd00d: great, install gcc then
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18:26.33bimmerd00dfugitivo: that worked, sweet, thanks
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18:28.00AchillesHeelso does this thing actually work/
18:28.02AchillesHeel?
18:28.09goatmilkwhat thing?
18:28.16fugitivoAchillesHeel: no, nothing to see here
18:28.28Kattymmm, full *pample*
18:28.32AchillesHeelasterisk, mirc, the planet, our minds, world of warcraft, capitalism
18:28.50Kattyi &heart; stirfry
18:29.04fugitivoAchillesHeel: you shouldn't use root user
18:29.11AchillesHeel&heart; Hmm which IRC client shows that? defn. not ircII
18:29.13goatmilkKatty: you know that stirfry is a glibc function?
18:29.29AchillesHeelfugi what can u do
18:29.29Kattygoatmilk: it's a vegan function too
18:29.41fugitivoAchillesHeel: me nothing, just an advice
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18:30.07Kattyback to studying :<
18:30.16tzangerstudying what
18:30.21Katty...
18:30.29Kattytzanger: i've already told you twice, surely.
18:30.41tzangeryou did?
18:30.46Kattyas+
18:30.50Kattya+ i mean
18:30.50tzangeras+?
18:30.55tzangera+?
18:30.56Hmmhesayshaha
18:30.58epochass plus?
18:30.59PMantisWhat's new from 1.06 to 1.07?
18:31.02tzangerisn't that a mark?
18:31.03Kattyepoch: exactly.
18:31.11Hmmhesaysdoes studying include a pillow fight?
18:31.11Lee__AchillesHeel: it's working farily well here. Quite complicated to configure but not impossible. Been at it for 8 days now and have local/outgoing/incoming calls working.
18:31.15Kattytzanger: it's a comptia certification that says i'm not shit
18:31.31Kattyas if people don't realize i'm not shit to start with, heh.
18:31.46tzangerKatty: ah
18:31.48Lee__A+ means you know how to install RAM without killing yourself, right?
18:31.55KattyLee__: uh, something like that.
18:31.55implicitpretty much
18:32.02kimcDoes an FXO port want echocancel ?
18:32.11Hmmhesaysat least they took the dos memory management stuff out of a+
18:32.15impliciti don't know why anyone would waste their time getting a+
18:32.20Lee__I think anyone who got old skool nintendo cartridges to work gets an A+ certification
18:32.26Kattyimplicit: my company is paying for it.
18:32.31kimcThat is a port with an FXO card on it..
18:32.31Kattyimplicit: it'll look nice on a resume.
18:32.45fugitivowhat is a+ ?
18:32.46implicitKatty, you would have to pay me $5000 bucks to put it on my resume
18:32.47Lee__Katty: get a CCNA
18:32.51AchillesHeellisten, anyone know ircII?
18:32.56KattyLee__: dont' tell me what to do
18:33.00KattyLee__: that anonys me
18:33.08KattyLee__: better.
18:33.10QuickDryDoesn't A+ get into large scale SCSI implementation, Quorum drives, and other specialized hardware? or is it just generic stuff?
18:33.15jhiveryeah what the hell is a a+ neway?
18:33.16goatmilkhow many times have i heard someone do something because it's good for a resume :)
18:33.17BeirdoKatty: I'll tell ya what to do... :)  Keep standing up for yourself :)
18:33.20implicitA+ is bullshit as hell
18:33.21HmmhesaysKatty: give my arm a hug
18:33.30tzangeryour arm?
18:33.30implicitHmmhesays, don't go insane
18:33.39tzangerfugitivo: it's a very good mark
18:33.40PMantisjhiver: A certificaten test
18:33.42Hmmhesaysyeah the one that feels funny
18:33.45implicittzanger, hahahaha
18:34.06jhiverblood type!
18:34.22jhiverbut why does being A+ look good on a resume? :) <grin>
18:34.43Hmmhesaysbecause the people hiring are often not very smart
18:35.01TomLHR people are fickle
18:35.03fugitivoi don't put certifications on my resume
18:35.18TomLthey're just as likely to hire you for liking the same TV show they do as any cert on your resume
18:35.18PMantisjhiver: LOL ok. I'm O-
18:35.30Hmmhesaysmy resume consists of a picture of me drunk playing guitar around my fire pit
18:35.36jhiverOooh PMantis DO NOT put that on your CV man! :)
18:35.52PMantis:) Low grade, eh?
18:36.04TomLo neg.. good to have around.  Can donate to anyone  :)
18:36.10jhiverit looks like MINUS ZERO
18:36.21jhiverlike you could not have PLUS ZERO :)))
18:36.41TomLzero doesn't have a sign :P
18:36.44jhiverbiiiiig difference :)
18:36.50PMantislol
18:36.56jhiveryes it does, it can be either +0 or -0 :)
18:37.14jhiverin all cases equals "la tete a toto"
18:37.20TomLbut if he's o neg, we can suck him dry at the first need... everyone who needs blood can take O neg transfusions
18:37.30PMantisIs there a spot on the site that outlines what changed between revisions? 1.0.6 != 1.0.7
18:37.32TomLregardless of their own type
18:37.38bjohnsonjust make up certifications
18:37.39jhiverwhell not unless u resus positive...
18:37.45bjohnsonnot like they know what they mean anyway
18:37.52jhiveryeah that sounds good, making up certifs
18:38.00km-Hey, anyone ever use a Nortel DMS-800
18:38.03jhiverI have a SGBC degree
18:38.04PMantisOk, I'm PMantis certified! :-)
18:38.07bjohnsonjust make sure you print one up to back up that you have it
18:38.15jhiverSelf-Given-Bullshit-Certificate
18:38.16TomLI've seen a DMS-500, does that count?
18:38.33TomLdo you mean, certifiable?
18:38.37bjohnsonPMaNTIs certified A+
18:38.40km-outtolunc: at the very least certifiable!
18:38.45jhiverand a PH.d in fly fucking
18:38.51jhiverfine art that
18:38.54TomLa winner is you
18:39.11km-Toml: heh
18:39.20km-unfortunately, I've got problems with the Nortel DMS-800 that XO has in our demarc
18:39.22KattyHmmhesays: are you projecting your needs onto your arm?
18:39.26TomLkm-: wow you lose :p
18:39.35km-and I was wondering if someone here had experience with them in the past
18:39.35implicitkm-, :)
18:39.50kimcjhiver: should I have echocancel=on for the FXS card?
18:39.52ChkDigitHas anyone used Mediatrix equipment in an * setup?
18:40.04implicitif someone came to get a job from me and had A+ on their resume
18:40.06jhivereeeh you might want to try that if you're having echo problems
18:40.09impliciti would think twice about wanting to hire them
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18:40.12kimcok
18:40.12jhiverI though it was an FXO???
18:40.16implicitit would DEFINITELY be a negative point
18:40.22Kattyimplicit: whine whine whine
18:40.27Kattyimplicit: stop being so bitter.
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18:40.36implicitKatty: ?
18:40.37jhivernaaah not negative...
18:40.45implicitjust being honest
18:40.49kimcRight, its FXS card -> pots phone right?
18:40.51implicitit's not like i give a shit about you personally
18:40.52implicitlol
18:40.53jhiverit's ok to display your degrees as long as you don't make a show of them
18:40.57Kattyimplicit: good.
18:41.02AchillesHeelhaha, laugh at me, what server am i on?
18:41.19Kattyimplicit: for a second there, i thought you were being a typical bitter geek and putting others down for knowing as much as you
18:41.32implicithahaha
18:41.32Kattyimplicit: i'm sure glad i was wrong
18:41.34implicitwhats up cypromis
18:41.43implicitu still in toronto?
18:41.49cypromisyeah another 5h
18:41.58jhiverKatty: what are you doing on a bloody IRC channel for Asterisk if you're *not* a typical bitter geek?
18:42.00Hmmhesaysmy gear will be here tomorrow
18:42.01implicitbtw, u want to meet in europe in a couple months?
18:42.01jhivergod damn
18:42.10cypromissure
18:42.10jhiverit's like someone from the AA being in a pub!
18:42.10Kattyjhiver: trying to learn, dear, trying to learn.
18:42.22Shido6back
18:42.24impliciti am going to be visiting a few clients
18:42.25cypromisI'llbe probbly in chicago beginning of august
18:42.30cypromiswhen ?
18:42.37implicitend of july probably
18:42.41jhiverkatty: trying to learn to be a bitter geek?
18:42.42implicitactually
18:42.44cypromis:)
18:42.44jhiverwe can help I'm sure
18:42.47impliciti'll be there mid june as well
18:42.51cypromiswhere about ?
18:42.51impliciti have to make two trips down
18:43.07Hmmhesaysheh msn is puking on itself again
18:43.11alt_philI live in chicago.  It's not all that great.
18:43.12implicitlondon, switzerland and germany are definite so far
18:43.24QuickDry~docs
18:43.25jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
18:43.30cypromisso it will be quite close to me :)
18:43.48implicitbut i'll be in China for longer if you are up for meeting there
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18:44.28AchillesHeel?
18:44.46cypromisdunno yet
18:44.47Kattyjhiver: you're wasting my time.
18:44.51cypromiswill probably be in china in june
18:44.52cypromis:)
18:44.54Kattyjhiver: stop bothering me
18:45.11jhiverkatty: it's easy
18:45.29jhiverkatty: just click on the little cross on the top right of your IRC window
18:45.47Kattyjhiver: umm, i'm screening irssi, there is no x dear.
18:45.59tzangerwhat are you trying to do Katty?  I use screen and irssi
18:46.09Kattytzanger: nothing mister fix it ;)
18:46.09jhiveroooh screen hey...
18:46.23ardwow.... I just switch here, and I see people having arguments?
18:46.23tzangerhahaha
18:46.24jhiverthen ctrl + a + d ought to do the trick
18:46.27tzangerwhen you're this big, they call you mister
18:46.51jhiverbah it seems that katty has about zero sense of humor
18:47.08*** part/#asterisk Hmmhesays (negative3k@66.173.103.108)
18:47.08jhiversorry about being me
18:47.10tzangerkatty just likes the sweet sultry sound of my voice
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18:47.18ard:-)
18:47.37Kattytzanger: except you don't talk much
18:47.51tzangerwell it's hard to talk when about 750ms later you hear your own voice
18:48.05jhiverheh that's quite a bit of a trip
18:48.33ardHeh, 75ms is already too much
18:48.45Kattytzanger: would you rather i not talk at all?
18:48.57jhivernaaah... I do phone calls with 300~400ms round trip and it's kindof ok
18:49.07tzangerit's the talkback that's hard
18:49.14tzangerKatty: I didn't say that
18:49.14ardjhiver : well I meant echo
18:49.23jhiveraah ok
18:49.25tzangerperhaps next time with the headset
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18:49.29tzangerso I can't hear myself
18:49.42tzanger* ard hasn't heard echo for a long time
18:49.43jhiveryeah, echo really is annoying
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18:49.46tzanger* ard keeps fingers crossed
18:49.54jhivereven worse is trying to sing something when echo is on
18:49.55tzanger... crossed
18:49.56tzangercrossed
18:49.57tzangerssed
18:49.58tzangerd
18:49.59jhiverit's really hard :)
18:50.09ard:-)
18:50.12ardWell
18:50.18ardIt's more slow then :-)
18:50.26tzangerthis is hilarious
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18:50.35tzangerthis box only has 512M RAM and I'm already 705M into swap
18:50.58blitzragemore RAM!
18:50.58Kattytzanger: you got feed back because of my speakers, not *
18:51.06PMantisMAN! What are you running??
18:51.07tzangerKatty: I know
18:51.10Kattytzanger: k
18:51.11piesanggui
18:51.13piesangno doubt
18:51.29ardsomething with glib?
18:51.30piesangcheck whats chowing your ram with top
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18:52.00tzangerwho's being glib
18:52.12ardusing is the better word
18:52.18ardwhat is using glib :-)
18:52.22tzanger:-)
18:52.27tzangerldd will tell you
18:53.10jhiverhey any french-speaking body on the chan who woudln't mind being a guinea pig^h^h^h^h^h alpha tester for me please?
18:53.13ardNot that I want to put down glib. But in some cases I seems to introduce a lot of memory fragmentation
18:53.41AgiNamuhey, someone here the other day was asking about crackign the g729 code
18:53.44AgiNamuare you heren ow?
18:53.47ardI can put on a french channel, and put the phone in front of it :-)
18:53.47alt_philSorry jhiver.  If you need someone that knows pig-latin, I'll help you out though :)
18:53.56AgiNamucracking the activation system that is.
18:53.59ardsomething like multivision 1 :-)
18:54.04jhiveralt_phil that might be enough :)
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18:55.44SPoon_TSXHello everyone, Wondering if anyone knows any possible reason why whenever I pick a incoming call from Asterisk on my phone, the asterisk will just hung my channell up in about 3 seconds?
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18:56.47AgiNamuuh well, you might have to provide a few more details....
18:56.56scoofSPoon_TSX: Have you tried turning up verbosity in asterisk and see what it says?
18:57.13asteriskmallIs there a way to specifiy for an agi script to be executed after the call hangs up?
18:57.32SPoon_TSXI am runing asterisk -vvvcg. Am I v enough?
18:58.25SPoon_TSXasteriskmall: You may want to take a look of EAGI.
18:58.25scoofSPoon_TSX: Using SIP?
18:58.25SPoon_TSXscoof: Yes.
18:58.25scoofSPoon_TSX: sip debug iå <ip>
18:58.25SPoon_TSXscoof: I have my outgoing call okay but not incoming.
18:58.25scoofSPoon_TSX: sip debug ip <ip>
18:58.25jhiverasteriskmall:
18:58.34jhiveryou can use DeadAGI and do your Dial inside the DeadAGI
18:58.50jhiverthen after your dial do whatever you like as long as it's in the same script
18:59.02jhiverI have written my custom calling card app this way
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18:59.47asteriskmalljhiver: sounds like what I need. I'm also interested in your calling card app.
19:00.07asteriskmallcan we discuss this more off channel?
19:00.10jhiverI can send you the stuff but it's got a lot of crap that is specific to my system
19:00.14jhiveryeah you can pm me
19:00.36AgiNamudfamn, there should be an iax2 debug ip command :
19:01.09AgiNamuHey, anyone think there's any business in providing hosted asterisk programmability?
19:01.29AgiNamulike, say some programmer wants to voice-enable his app. We provide an API for him to run on his server and we send DIDs to him
19:01.48AgiNamuand he just processes them using our cute api
19:01.57*** part/#asterisk MuppetMaster (~MuppetMas@a82-92-73-185.adsl.xs4all.nl)
19:02.01AgiNamuno need to learn asterisk or linux or anything outside his programming environment
19:02.20caesar2what do you think: it it bad to do all the dialing or other stuff in agi : _.,1,agi,dialinoutorsomewhere.agi
19:04.21AgiNamucaesar2 not at all
19:04.22sudhir492AgiNamu: I am offering hosted pbx to businesses
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19:04.26AgiNamunot hosted pbx
19:04.30AgiNamuhosted programmabilioty
19:04.34sudhir492Have got decent response so far
19:04.40AgiNamugiven some Visual Basic developer
19:04.43AgiNamuhe wrote some inventory app
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19:04.50Maxxedyo :)
19:04.51AgiNamuand now he wnats to do "call in and check stock"
19:05.14AgiNamucaesar2, in fact, if your dialplan logic is complex, using an AGI or C program might be an EXCELLENT solution.
19:05.25AgiNamuconsidering that doing anything even minor in extensions.conf is a pita.
19:05.35jsolareshey ppl, anyone know of a good TTS for linux? i'm using festival with asterisk to make a full database driven IVR with tts, but well festival has bad voice quality, specially in spanish
19:05.46mesiIs there any fwdOUT user online? Strangely I have quite short calls in my list.
19:05.54caesar2i think so to.. but what is extension.conf for anyway... if i only need on line...
19:06.08AgiNamujsolares hola :). Cepestral seems to be the other "favoured" player.
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19:06.20AgiNamuI use Windows, so I've got a wide range of SAPI voices to use
19:06.20sudhir492AgiNamu: I have no idea about hosted programmability.
19:06.36jsolareshey AgiNamu
19:06.55eKo1AGI is much easier than making your own app.
19:07.03AgiNamuAGI is also a lot less powerful.
19:07.09eKo1apps are a bitch to debug though.
19:07.14mesiHey, fwdOUT actually HAS forums :-)
19:07.17bjohnsonso .. I can dial my home * machine via pstn through a SPA 3k fxo and use dtmf to control the voicemail app .. but I often have problems using dtmf to control other companies IVR systems.  Any tips?
19:08.16Shido6inband?
19:08.19bjohnsontzanger mentioned that it might be due to the length of the dtmf tones.  Anyone know how to control that?
19:08.30Maxxedim having a bit of a problem upgrading my firmware on my 7940, im runing P0S30200.bin and im trying to upgrade to P0S3-05-3-00 and cant geter to go?
19:08.35bjohnsonnot inband .. avt on the spa and rfc2833 in *
19:08.35jsolaresAgiNamu, what database does the VB inventory app use?
19:08.38Maxxedthis there something im missing?
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19:08.57AgiNamujsolares, that's just an example.
19:09.10AgiNamuMyabe it uses MySQL and thus loses its data every time they make a mistake
19:09.24Maxxedi see a W220 TFTP Error: Buffer Full under my stat mesgs :\
19:09.25AgiNamuor maybe it uses Oracle. or maybe it queries a SOAP service.
19:09.31harryvvbjohnson ive seen that as a issue on my system where using dtmf to control the apps was a issue. I dont know what it was but made some changes to correct it.
19:09.33jsolareswell if you can conect to it with perl you can make a tts driven ivr to check inventory with AGI
19:09.41AgiNamui.e., I'd like to offer a general API for programmer to use
19:09.45tzangerbjohnson: in the zaptel source IIRC
19:09.59AgiNamui was thinking more like VB.NET, C#, C, C++, Perl, PHP, COBOL, Pascal, Brainfuck, etc. etc.
19:10.03jsolaresahh, tough noodle
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19:10.39scoofMaxxed: try to upgrade through the different intermediate versions up to the release you want to end at
19:10.44jakepdevAGI - how can you get the CLR to compile for use in Linux?
19:10.49bjohnsontzanger: these fxo are Sipura SPA 3000
19:10.52bjohnsonSIP
19:10.56jsolareshmm well cepstral is not that good
19:11.17tzangerbjohnson: oh
19:11.25tzangerI doubt htat's the problem then
19:11.29Maxxedscoof: i am :\ i cant even load P0S30203.bin,the next one up
19:11.33AgiNamujakepdev... Mono
19:11.35jaigerAgiNamu, you're looking to write yet another "generic" voice API?
19:11.47AgiNamuno, im looking to wrap AGI pretty much
19:12.00jsolaresthere's not much in AGI to wrap around :X
19:12.02AgiNamuand provie FastAGI on a hosted basis.
19:12.05Maxxedsombody mentioned a suport matrix, i have to start from the botem and work my way up, and im trying, but i cant get it past the P0S30200.bin
19:12.17AgiNamusure there is. AGI is just a set of instructions to send over a pipe
19:12.50jsolaresmeh i liked scansoft realspeak, but the bastards wont give me info on the phone, it's all on the site they say... bah
19:12.50scoofMaxxed: are you at a universal loader version?
19:12.50AgiNamuwriteline("say digits bla ") is not comparable to Channel.SayDigits(xxx)
19:12.50Maxxedscoof: universal loader?
19:12.54*** part/#asterisk Alexi1 (~alexis@www.trim.it)
19:13.08Maxxedscoof: Boot Load ID PC030301
19:13.24scoofMaxxed: I'm not sure about the SIP-images, I'm mostly playing around with SCCP
19:13.31jsolaresi didnt mean there wasnt anything to wrap around, just that there arent that many different instructions in agi
19:13.40AgiNamuoh , yea, unfortunately.
19:13.44bjohnsonany idea what the Sipura settings DTMF Process INFO and DTMF Process AVT would mean?
19:13.46scoofMaxxed: are you already running SIP software on it?
19:13.48AgiNamuAGI could be useful with a few more features.
19:13.54AgiNamulike, control of the CDR
19:13.57AgiNamusetting dst and src and so on
19:14.11Maxxedscoof: yes, im running sip P0S30200.bin
19:14.30Maxxedscoof: trying to get up to P0S30203.bin
19:14.43sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: are you still there
19:15.37harryvvjsolares, I just tested scansoft very good female voice.
19:15.56Maxxedscoof: when i wint from mccp to sip, it worked like a champ, but i cant get anything passed what i have now :\
19:16.11AgiNamuanyone here have a PA168 phone to test an IAX2 fix?
19:16.21jsolaresharryvv, that they do, but they wont give me price for realspeak telecom since they say it's on the website, but i havent found it on the website
19:16.26jsolaresor atleast realspeak solo
19:16.33harryvvI see
19:16.40harryvvJust testd tom..vry clear
19:16.49jsolaresPA168? is that the same as the Atcom 320EE?
19:17.05AgiNamuAtcom uses pa168 chips in some of their prodcuts. maybe all
19:17.25scoofMaxxed: have you tried resetting it and then going from sccp to the newer SIP image?
19:17.28AgiNamuif it supports H323, SIP, MGCP, its prolly a Pa168
19:17.30jsolaresi have the 320EE at the other office, it says it supports iax2 but never connects, only wrks with sip
19:17.37scoofMaxxed: their software doesn't seem too robust to me
19:17.41Maxxedscoof: i dont have a sccp image :(
19:17.44AgiNamuI've got new (and customized) firmware
19:17.54Maxxedscoof: woudlnt wana help a fella out by chance would ya ;)
19:17.55AgiNamusounds like you're running old software
19:17.57harryvvjsolares, did you fill out there sales contact form?
19:18.07jsolaresharryvv, yeah, 2 weeks ago
19:18.09AgiNamugive me your email, and I'll send you new IAX2 firwmare.
19:18.16jsolaresAgiNamu, jsolares@gmail.com
19:18.17harryvvDid you follow up?
19:18.17scoofMaxxed: no, sorry
19:18.33AgiNamuand the hardware reference design? do you know it?
19:18.44scoofMaxxed: if you do a factory default reset though, you should end with a non-SIP image
19:18.47jsolaresthey never contacted me, so i called, and said boohoo it's on the webiste go look it up -_-;
19:18.53scoofMaxxed: http://cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094584.shtml#issue3
19:18.56Maxxedscoof: you sure?
19:19.08AgiNamuyuxin, pa168q, 5111phone, tiger, ywh100, pa168v, etc.....
19:19.28jsolaresno idea
19:19.42Maxxedscoof: EXCELLENT! ah, man iv been looking high and low for that doc
19:19.45AgiNamuhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki-ATCOM
19:19.49AgiNamusays PA168S
19:19.50jsolaresi knew i should've put that phone in my backpack to test around since i wasnt going to be there
19:20.10AgiNamuI use it with IAX2, no problem. have a few clients on it too. works great.
19:20.13AgiNamuPhone or ATA
19:20.13jsolareslets see
19:20.44AgiNamuI'll send you firmware built for the PA168S
19:20.59jsolaresok
19:21.44SPoon_TSXscoof: I got the message said @ http://www.pastebin.com/264890
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19:22.04SPoon_TSXscoof: Is that means my phone tell the asterisk to hang up?
19:22.18Thus0Hi
19:22.20SPoon_TSXMy Asterisk IP is 192.168.1.118
19:22.24scoofSPoon_TSX: looks like it, yeah
19:22.25harryvvjsolares, well i looked atn its not advertised.
19:22.47harryvvjsolares, is this mostly a windows product?
19:22.48SPoon_TSXscoof: Damn.
19:22.49AgiNamuharryvv what isnt?
19:23.08harryvvrealspeak is not advertised in there store link
19:23.32jsolaresit runs on linux, that much i know, not sure if it works on windows
19:23.43ElsharHey, anyone know offhand how one goes about making a custom init.cfg for the pap2-na's?
19:23.48harryvvI dont see anything about it running on linux.
19:23.58ElsharI downloaded one, but it seems to be a mostly binary file. :/
19:24.22jsolaresRealSpeak Telecom 4.0 is available for Windows, Linux, and Solaris deployments < http://www.scansoft.com/speechworks/realspeak/telecom/
19:24.33harryvvk
19:24.41harryvvlike the voice quality.
19:24.42harryvv:)
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19:24.58jsolaresso far it's the best i've found
19:25.33harryvvI have a mail office in blaine that gets alot of calls from canada and alot of chinese japanese ect are hard to understand by these people.
19:25.38harryvvThis might help.
19:25.56bjohnsonElshar: it IS a binary file
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19:26.33bjohnsonElshar: where'd you find your's?
19:26.43Elsharhttp://corp.deltathree.com/productsandservices/setup/s_pap2_instructions.html
19:26.47harryvvmake a dabase when a package comes in thay check it in the db and whena caller wants to know there package is in thay punch in there mail box and speach senthisis in there language says there package is in. no more language barriers
19:26.49ElsharCame up on a google search
19:27.29ElsharI'm assuming that the original sipura stuff probably had some utility to generate the configs then? They touch on it in the user and admin guides, but nothing terribly helpful.
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19:29.28Maxxedthanks again scoof for the URL, that did the trick!! and keep on trucking with the 7970/sccp :D
19:30.45ElsharHmm
19:31.14harryvvjsolares, I am on the phone with scansoft.
19:31.33SPoon_TSXscoof: Any suggestion that I may be able to work around this problem?
19:31.47doug_:)
19:32.50scoofSPoon_TSX: no, sorry, I'm not familiar with your phone - could you perhaps do a dump of a full SIP conversation?
19:33.08SPoon_TSXYes
19:33.09harryvvjsolares, There sales said this product is not something for retail and is fairly complex. I said it would be used as a IVR for a voipserver and passed me onto sales. I guess thay dont want any sort of technical support.
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19:33.33harryvvcalls from the public :)
19:33.49jsolaresseems so
19:33.56ariel_good afternoon all
19:34.00jsolaresafternoon
19:34.04harryvvThat would be my best assumption.
19:34.27jsolaresdamn them, it's a good product with great voice quality and they dont want to sell them??
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19:35.25fugitivowho? what?
19:35.48harryvvjsolares, this is for telecoms so thats probebly why thay dont nessesarly advertise it to the public.
19:36.14jsolaresheh i'm a 2 man telecom company!
19:36.20jsolareswell we
19:37.00carbon60Afternoon folks.
19:37.07jsolaresafternoon
19:37.17AgiNamuyou are util Telgua and Telefonica start blocking SIP :)
19:37.23carbon60Anyone know *anything* about the Polycom SoundPoint's "presence" and messaging features?
19:37.31AgiNamuand then all of a sudden, IAX seems really attractive
19:38.22jsolareshehe
19:38.44SPoon_TSXscoof: here you go http://www.pastebin.com/264896
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19:39.51bjohnsonElshar: Sipura authorized resellers can get a program to compile/encrypt the xml config file
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19:40.21odie_floconhey all
19:40.46PMantisSPoon_TSX: This seems like it's an issue:  "Transmitting (NAT) to 192.168.1.129:5060:"
19:40.47bjohnsonElshar: the end result is that you will need to config by hand each unit you have
19:40.57PMantisSPoon_TSX: Don't need NAT internally
19:41.24SPoon_TSXPMantis: But how can I turn it off?
19:41.36PMantisSPoon_TSX: sip.conf
19:41.47SPoon_TSXPMantis: I am wondering would it be the port number causing the problem.
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19:42.17SPoon_TSXPMantis: I tried to disable the Nat, (nat=no) and (Canreinvite=yes). Still no goal.
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19:43.09Shido6spoon
19:44.16Shido6877-677-9649 ask for Greg
19:45.56PMantisSPoon_TSX: I didn't catch what the problem was.. no voice?
19:46.30SPoon_TSXPMantis: The problem is I can pick up the call but it will drop the call in about 3 seconds. But it only happening on incoming call.
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19:47.25AsteriskNoobafternoon everyone!
19:47.40AsteriskNoobhey, got a question....
19:47.57PMantisAhh, I believe it to be a NAT issue then. The request is coming from one address, ACK from to another (the external IP in sip.conf). Since it's not ACK'd, the call is assumed to be broken, and dropped.
19:48.13scoofyeah
19:48.38AgiNamuPMantis, did somebody say IAX2?
19:48.38AsteriskNoobi've got a system set up with 2 X100p's right now and 8 Cisco 7960's, we are going to be rolling to a TE110P and a TDM400 to run a couple analog for the fax machines and those 8 7960's can a P3 733 handle this?
19:48.43scoofI couldn't find his way around all those 200 OK's
19:48.52SPoon_TSXPMantis: Weird. I got my Asterisk and SIP Phone on the same network, there is no firewall in between. How come I will have NAT issue???
19:48.53AsteriskNoob(7 channels active on the PRI by the way)
19:49.00bjohnsonAgiNamu: no I don't think so
19:49.08PMantisSPoon_TSX: I had a typo there, but that's the basics. Perhaps you should pastebit your (edted for passwords) sip.conf file
19:49.34AgiNamuSpoon_tsx: SIP just sucks that much!
19:49.37PMantisSPoon_TSX: Because Asterisk is assuming that it needs to compensate for a NAT issue, when it doesn't have to.
19:49.40bjohnsonAsteriskNoob: likely
19:49.50odie_floconhey, why is there no zaptel.conf when I build off of the newest CVS?
19:49.57PMantisSPoon_TSX: and yeah... SIP sux. LOL
19:50.08bjohnsonAsteriskNoob: a few pages on the wiki about system sizing .. but about 8 concurrent calls is nothing
19:50.13SPoon_TSXPMantis: here you go: http://www.pastebin.com/264903
19:50.25SPoon_TSXPMantis: Too bad, but I have leave with it. Poor me. = (
19:50.29jhiverI don't know... SIP does suck of course... but it sortofworks though...
19:50.35AsteriskNoobbjohnson: everything i find just discusses having a dual xeon that barely does 100 calls
19:50.54bjohnsonAsteriskNoob: didn't sound like you needed 100 calls
19:51.11bjohnsonand I saw a web page that listed an xbox handling 2 calls
19:51.15jhiverIAX doesn't suck but the hardware does. _big time_
19:51.18AgiNamudammit. cvs diff -u isnot working
19:51.19AsteriskNoobbjohnson: nope, just 7 incoming pri, the ability to use 4 ports on the TDM and the ability to use 10 phones
19:51.23bjohnsonand even a pentium 100 with 16M RAM
19:51.27AgiNamujhiver, the PA168 phones and ATAs are quite nice.
19:51.27scoofjhiver: SIP's a blessing! I'm trying to get chan_sccp to work currently ;)
19:51.31AgiNamuBetter than a grandstream
19:51.31PMantisSPoon_TSX: OK, comment out the externip=70.xxxxxx line, and change all nat=yes lines to nat=no... then reload
19:51.32AgiNamu:)
19:51.44AgiNamuthe IAXy sucks, that's all.
19:51.49jhiverI mean does anybody know of like a _reliable_ IAX ATA or phone working?
19:51.50Shido6AsteriskNoob, how many simultaneous calls on that box?
19:51.52PMantisSPoon_TSX: That *should* be all you need to do.
19:51.59jhiverand don't get me started on the IAXy :)
19:52.03AsteriskNoobbjohnson: its also fully possible that I could have all 7 pri active, all 4 TDM active and up to 20 SIP phones talking... conferences and what not
19:52.07AgiNamujhiver, I do. I'm using one right now.
19:52.11AgiNamuActually, I'm using several
19:52.18bjohnsonjhiver: didn't AgiNamu tell you that he's using some pa168 devices?
19:52.22AsteriskNoobshido6: not many
19:52.22PMantisjhiver: What's wrong with the IAXy? I've been considering one.
19:52.31jhiverIt doesn't work :)
19:52.32AgiNamuULAW only
19:52.36AgiNamuhear they break a lot
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19:52.52AgiNamuthe PA168 has GSM, G729, G723, ULAW, ALAW, and soon iLBC.
19:52.54bjohnsonconfig seems to be a pita
19:53.01bjohnsonalso read they don't support dhcp
19:53.06odie_floconDoes anybody know why is there no zaptel.conf when I build off of the newest CVS?
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19:53.12AgiNamudont do DHCP? lol
19:53.17bjohnsonwhich to me seems to limit their mobility for roaming users
19:53.26Dovidanyone know if there are problems between zaptel and cent os 4 kernel 2.6 ?
19:53.27AsteriskNoobI guess i can just setup MRTG to monitor the CPU/Bandwidth/Simultaneous calls on that box and keep an eye on em
19:53.32gruphdoes anyone here use Asterisk with SER?
19:53.47JerJer[mobile]sure
19:53.57bjohnsonJerJer[mobile]: SER sure?
19:54.21bjohnsonfer sure?
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19:55.21gruph:)     I'm trying to get SER to pass a call to Asterisk... Asterisk is trying to auth the call and SER doesn't respond.  Any ideas?  or is there somewhere I can look for more resources on SER acting as a UAC to Asterisk?
19:55.32SPoon_TSXPMantis: Still the same. Cut off at about 3 seconds.
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19:55.56PMantisSPoon_TSX: sip debug show a "(NAT)" ?
19:56.02emrahHello everybody
19:56.26fugitivoI'm using a linksys pap2-na, and when i call a number from a regular phone, it has a delay of 5 sec before it reaches *
19:56.58carbon60Anyone know *anything* about the Polycom SoundPoint's "presence" feature?
19:57.09JerJer[mobile]fugitivo: lower the timeout or set a proper dialplan
19:57.30gruphfugitivo: you can also hit "#" to force the call through.
19:57.45PMantisSPoon_TSX: What version os * are you using?
19:58.10gruphfugitivo: hitting # is a temporary work around to push it through if you don't want to adjust the dialplan on the ATA just yet.
19:58.14emrahAnyone know about this error with the Asterisk calling card application? (astcc) http://pastebin.ca/8488
19:58.17fugitivofound it, thanks guys
19:58.33SPoon_TSXPMantis: How can I tell?
19:59.13gruphSPoon_TSX: from the * console, type "show version"
19:59.23scoofemrah: you need to install some perl modules
19:59.54SPoon_TSXAsterisk CVS-HEAD-03/18/05-11:35:47 built by root@synergize.ca on a i686 running Linux
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19:59.58scoofemrah: http://asterisk.gnuinter.net/
20:00.17*** join/#asterisk Druken (Druken@67.69.139.226)
20:00.29Drukendoesn't the latest stable have realtime?
20:00.51emrahthanks a lot scoof
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20:02.15gruphCan anyone point me in a direction of sample configs passing calls from SER to Asterisk?
20:02.27harryvvjsolares, I just talked to one of there sales staff at this company. Realspeak Licence is $5,000 and that included tech support. After the first year each port is $455.
20:02.32PMantisSPoon_TSX: If you're having unexplained problems, (sounds like it's configured OK - should work), try moving to  a stable release. Try compiling 1.0.7, and use that.
20:03.10johnnybdoes anyone here run asterisk as a realtime process?
20:03.12*** join/#asterisk toddf (~toddf@net-66-210-104-252.theshop.net)
20:03.27gruphjohnnyb: what do you mean by realtime process?  just running it?
20:03.40JerJer[mobile]realtime is one big bug
20:03.43PMantisjohnnyb: I don't, but would there be an advantage?
20:03.48SPoon_TSXPMantis: I tried to download the stable version but it just doesn't make call at all.
20:03.48Shido6http://www.pastebin.com/264909
20:04.40AgiNamuI'm sure a lot of people would love to know how you scale asterisk to 500 boxes, Jerjer.
20:04.41AgiNamu:)
20:04.46PMantisSPoon_TSX: OK, then I'm sorry - I think I've reached the end of my ability to help. There are others much more knowledgeable than I in this channel.
20:04.51JerJer[mobile]Shido6:  username is not necessary
20:06.37AgiNamuSpoon, did you clean your install before installing Stable?
20:06.45AgiNamujust overwriting the source and doing a make install wont work
20:07.10jsolaresthanks for the info harryvv
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20:07.44bjohnsonDruken: no
20:08.09harryvvjsolares, the company said thay are number one in this industry so that is why the high cost.
20:08.31scoofSPoon_TSX: does the debug have anything to say about why it believes it should be natting if you reboot the phone?
20:09.05Drukenbjohnson: ok, thanks
20:09.57jsolaresthat they are, the quality of the voice is unsurpassed from everyone elses that i've tried
20:10.19mstoccohey all
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20:10.39mstoccocan anyone comment on expedient as an ISP?
20:10.42Hmmhesayswell the eye doctor says i'm not going blind
20:11.02file[laptop]Hmmhesays: that's good
20:11.18jsolareswhat does the eye doctor say?
20:11.25jsolarestoo much crt?
20:11.27Hmmhesaysyeah I think that is a generally accepted feeling
20:11.27file[laptop]I spy with my little eye!
20:11.30AgiNamuGet your CDRs with REAL uniqueIDs (GUIDs) here: http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0003780
20:11.48sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: What version of PWLib and Openh323 for CVS head for chan_h323 to work?
20:11.48Hmmhesayswell it started off with "dear penthouse I never though it would happen to me......."
20:11.58jsolareshehehe
20:11.59sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: where to get them from
20:12.11Hmmhesayssudhir492 read the readme
20:12.26Hmmhesayser.. wait, she said I need to change my contacts more often
20:12.28SPoon_TSXscoof: nope.
20:13.00sudhir492Hmmhesays: I just read and I cannot find those versions on sourceforge, neither at nufone.net/downloads
20:13.35Hmmhesayswww.openh323.org/bin
20:14.53Hmmhesaysyour welcome
20:14.56file[laptop]lol
20:15.04file[laptop]a commercial or 'newphone' just came on... thought they were talking about nufone
20:15.17file[laptop]er for
20:16.08JerJer[mobile]funny
20:16.19JerJer[mobile]there is inFone
20:16.22JerJer[mobile]as well
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20:16.41file[laptop]JerJer[mobile]: it almost freaked me out
20:16.43Maxxedproxy_register: 1 is what makes my 7940 ipphone register its self to asterisk right?
20:17.06JerJer[mobile]sudhir492: grab the latest release code from sourceforge and by the time you get it compiled i'll have cvs -head updated
20:17.06Hmmhesaysupfone downfone?
20:17.17scott99Anyone have a recommendation for a company that I can pay to take my SIP traffic if I wanted about 10000 minutes of talk time?
20:17.20jsolaresoldFone
20:17.25AgiNamuOldPhone: When touch tone just don't cut it.
20:17.30Hmmhesaysyoungfone?
20:17.30scoofSPoon_TSX: there seems to be some complexity in the selection of NAT in chan_sip.c
20:17.39Hmmhesaysis bjohnson from boston?
20:17.39scoofSPoon_TSX: I'm trying to wrap my head around it
20:17.41JerJer[mobile]deadFone
20:17.48AgiNamuF***Fone
20:17.49JerJer[mobile]won'tworkFone
20:17.57AgiNamuthisisreallystupidPhone
20:18.01JerJer[mobile]jitterFone
20:18.13JerJer[mobile]phuckFone
20:18.14JerJer[mobile]:)
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20:18.20jsolareshehe
20:18.23SPoon_TSXscoof:thsnks.
20:18.23sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: thannks.
20:18.28vidia22newbi question - how can I tell if a fxo card is installed properly and being "used " by the system?
20:18.28AgiNamuphuck phone? is that for hockey scores?
20:18.38Hmmhesaysvidia22: look at the pretty lights
20:18.44MikeJ[Laptop]who long does it take to get a did from nufone....
20:18.45AgiNamunewBI question?
20:18.47bjohnsonvidia22: it answers calls and can make calls
20:18.55Hmmhesaysthere are four lights!
20:18.58jsolaresMikeJ[Laptop], months if it's a michigan did :X
20:19.01bjohnsonMikeJ[Laptop]: at LEAST 4 days
20:19.17sudhir492I already downloaded the latest release last night :-) Off to compiling now... Talk to you in 15 mins!
20:19.22Maxxedhey, proxy_register: 1 is what makes my 7940 ipphone register its self to asterisk right?
20:19.25MikeJ[Laptop]at least weeks... I'll let you know if it turns into months.
20:19.36bjohnsonsudhir492: for h323?  famous last words
20:19.40MikeJ[Laptop]you'd think they would mention that....
20:19.48vidia22there are no lights - and it doesnt anse\wer or make calls - but I think my config is screwed as well...
20:19.56bjohnsonMikeJ[Laptop]: fours weeks for a DID from sixtel for me
20:20.05Hmmhesayshaha, well.... you missed my obscure star trek  reference
20:20.21jhivernaaah we know
20:20.32jhiverwhen jl picard is being tortured and stuff
20:20.39jhiverman that's so cheezy :)
20:20.40MikeJ[Laptop]I was told 24 hrs, then the next day 48, then a couple of days later, it could take a while... we'll let you know... I frankly gave up.
20:20.58bjohnsonjhiver: wsn't he being forced to watch Star Trek movies?
20:21.02jsolaresthe 1800 did i got from nufone was instantenously
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20:21.06AgiNamu"it doesnt answer or make calls" <-- good indication its not working
20:21.18Maxxedah, it is :)
20:21.19AgiNamunufone provisions fast for me.
20:21.22bjohnsonMikeJ[Laptop]: good for you
20:21.25AgiNamuSo does RNK
20:21.35sudhir492bjohnson : Shhhh. With JerJer around you are not saying anything bad about h323 :-)
20:21.37bjohnsonAgiNamu: we don't all rank so highly as you
20:21.42jhivermind you star trek NG was _so  much better_ than the crappy 'enterprise' episodes :)
20:21.43AgiNamuRNK kicks ass actually
20:21.44harryvvbjohnson,  wow 4 weeks?
20:21.53bjohnsonharryvv: yes
20:22.00JerJer[mobile]MikeJ[Laptop]:  i personally emailed you the configs for your royal oak number
20:22.01harryvvwondr why the wait
20:22.14harryvvor is it just not enough manpower to handle the workload.
20:22.19bjohnsonI'll show you a royal oak ...
20:22.22MikeJ[Laptop]not to me.
20:22.27jhiverone thing I like about NuFone is that instead of cutting me off they let the balance go negative and sent me an email
20:22.32JerJer[mobile]whatever email address is assocated to your account then
20:22.38jhiverI though this is cool not to just cut you off
20:22.42MikeJ[Laptop]nope.
20:22.45JerJer[mobile]yep
20:22.48bjohnsonjhiver: I actually prefer that
20:22.50harryvvbjohnson,  thats not good if a customer wants to have a did in the states and cannot wait.
20:22.51bjohnsonnope
20:22.52MikeJ[Laptop]try again?
20:22.52bjohnsonyep
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20:23.15jhiverbjohnson you prefer what ?
20:23.18bjohnsonharryvv: I don't give a damn about the states
20:23.20jhiverbeing cut off?
20:23.24file[laptop]any Canadians around?
20:23.27bjohnsonjhiver: being cut off
20:23.28harryvvbjohnson,  :)
20:23.35AgiNamujhiver, t's also a fuckload easier to let you ride a bit
20:23.36tzangeryup
20:23.39tzanger<-- canadian
20:23.40AgiNamurather then enforce a zero-balance limit.
20:23.41JerJer[mobile]jhiver: the problem is not everyone likes to pay their bills - so that behaviour has to change
20:23.42bjohnsonjhiver: err .. referring to voip accounts
20:23.53tzangerspeaking of balance
20:23.57tzangerI should check my nufone balance
20:23.59bjohnsonfile[laptop]: we're all here
20:24.02mstocco<-- also a Canadian
20:24.09jhiverlike you're in this super important deal on the phone that's gonna make u filthy rich and BANG! cut off
20:24.12file[laptop]bjohnson: know who I would call to correct the name/address on my taxes?
20:24.13jhivergreat...
20:24.16file[laptop]been wrong for two years...
20:24.19tzangerstill +ve
20:24.26bjohnsonfile[laptop]: revenue canada
20:24.30file[laptop]I'm thinking Customs & Revenue, but their site is like ... kaput
20:24.32jhiverIt's not *too* hard to enforce, a zero balance limit
20:24.38jhiverI don't see what's the problem
20:24.44bjohnsonfile[laptop]: they have a web site with all sorts of contact info
20:24.47AgiNamuno, but an order of magnitude harder than just delay billing the CDRs
20:25.01jhiverit's like:
20:25.02AgiNamujhiver, cause when a call comes in, you gotta go query the balance, rate it, etc.
20:25.05tzangersweet
20:25.10AgiNamuAs well as keep track of simulatenous calls, etc.
20:25.15tzanger2160s call, $1.32
20:25.16jhiver- freeze some money - phone - recredit unused money
20:25.20harryvvfile[laptop], what city are you in
20:25.22jhiverthat's what I do
20:25.25file[laptop]harryvv: Moncton
20:25.26jhivereasy!
20:25.28harryvvK
20:25.35AgiNamusure, but it's a lot easier to just "phone" :)
20:25.46jhiverlol ok :)
20:25.46harryvvDont know what the number there for cra is but its online.
20:26.13file[laptop]trying to get it, but the cra site is not working for me
20:26.35scoofSPoon_TSX: this problem is when you're dialing the phone, right?
20:26.36jhiverAnyway I think *thumbs up* for the current nufone 'don't cut off' policy
20:26.43jhiverif it changes well that's too bad
20:27.08jhiveroff course i immediately added some money on my account :)
20:27.28JerJer[mobile]there will be a small amount of credit provided, until it is abused
20:27.45jhiverah cool
20:27.55harryvvcra in surrey is expanding and upgrading everything. money is cheap these days :)
20:27.55Maxxedah yes, success! :)
20:28.00jhiverwell if you let go of say 2 dollars top
20:28.09SPoon_TSXscoof: Nope, it is from PSTN -> Asterisk -> SIP Phone.
20:28.17jhiveri don't know, it depends on the size of payments i guess
20:28.23scoofSPoon_TSX: ok, that was what I meant ;)
20:28.29jhivermaybe it should be like minus 5% of last payment
20:28.48scoofSPoon_TSX: I'd really like a sip-debug from register all the way through a failed call
20:28.54jhiverso if you paid 10$ you can go 50 cents in the red
20:29.02scoofSPoon_TSX: I think I have an idea where it goes wrong
20:29.17SPoon_TSXscoof: How can I capture those information for you?
20:29.25jhiveralthough I went like minus 1.5$ and I paid only like 10 or 20 bucks originally
20:29.31bjohnsonfile[laptop]: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/
20:29.37scoofSPoon_TSX: by booting the phone after enabling sip debug ip <ip>
20:29.46scoofSPoon_TSX: and then performing a call
20:29.53file[laptop]bjohnson: yes I know it...
20:29.55SPoon_TSXok. one second.
20:29.56file[laptop]it's just... incredibly slow
20:29.57bjohnsonoh
20:30.12scoofSPoon_TSX: depending on the via-lines in a sip request, Asterix may choose to enable NAT
20:30.17scoofAsterisk
20:30.20Maxxedhey, im curious, when i get a call, i have caller id tell me if my extention was direct dialed or its a cue call, well under the caller id msg, it tells me what i want then under that astterisk, how to i take that asterisk out from under my caller id
20:30.24Maxxedi use, exten => s,1,SetCallerID(Direct Dial)
20:30.28bjohnsonfile[laptop]: try this 1 800 387-1193
20:30.43file[laptop]busy
20:31.05file[laptop]it's "ignore file and not let him get to the CRA via website or phone" day
20:31.06bjohnsonfile[laptop]: Individual income tax enquiries: 1-800-959-8281
20:31.12*** join/#asterisk bah (048830696@AC93E902.ipt.aol.com)
20:31.19tzangerfile[laptop]: damn, I always forget that day
20:31.26file[laptop]that number is busy as well
20:31.27bjohnsonthe other one was a joke ..
20:31.38bjohnson(family benefits)
20:32.10bjohnsonfile[laptop]: better keep trying .. it's almost quitting time for them
20:33.23AgiNamushit... fark.com is down.
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20:33.26AgiNamuhow will i waste time
20:33.31harryvvI dont understand this country as far as its taxes are concerned. I get back 500 -700 for a normal working job in washing almost every yeare yet I had to pay taxes owed here. Thats a first time in my life had to pay any taxes owed.
20:33.46file[laptop]you had taxes owed? how odd
20:33.57harryvvyea had to pay 57 dollars
20:34.52harryvvI am from the states and never in my life owed any taxes to the irs. BTW everythign in bc is expensive ;) I even pay interest on my car insurance. If a person cannot pay one years of car insurance up front thay finance it for you.
20:34.57SPoon_TSXscoof: Full dump here > http://www.pastebin.com/264928
20:35.18jsolaresAgiNamu, ISR? IVA? :O
20:35.25AgiNamunope
20:35.27AgiNamufuck that shit
20:35.35AgiNamui pay IVA cause sometimes they include it
20:35.44jsolaressometimes...
20:35.48AgiNamubut in those cases, i sell my invoices to someone else.
20:35.59AgiNamuguatemala's tax system needs to be killed.
20:36.08AgiNamufor those that dont know
20:36.11jsolaresit's not as bad as other countries
20:36.22AgiNamuit makes the assumption that the government has a super database that somehow gets every single invoice in it
20:36.47AgiNamuto legally sell anything, you have to get a registered invoice design approved, printed by a registered approved printing company, and then have approved serial numbers on them.
20:36.58AgiNamuthe idea being that you can't just make up an invoice.
20:37.08AgiNamuOf course, liek most things the government comes up with, it just doesnt work :P
20:37.20AgiNamuyea, I hear italy has a fucked up system too :P
20:37.42scoofSPoon_TSX: line 70: no nat yet
20:37.44jsolareshehe
20:37.48jhiverYeah sounds like screwed
20:37.56jsolareswe're in paradise with the IVA/ISR compared to many countries
20:38.03jsolaresthey're easy to evade :X
20:38.07jhiverhow about you're buying something from some other country... => screwed
20:38.09harryvvUntill a year ago anyone Here in BC who made over 45,000 per year had to pay 50% income tax.
20:38.19AgiNamuyea, that's true. it's so ineffective, so long you dont report, you're ok :)
20:38.21scoofSPoon_TSX: there's no NAT in that dump at all!
20:38.27AgiNamuplus , im canadian, and not a resident
20:38.34AgiNamui dont make any money in canada, so i dont pay canadian taxes.
20:38.46scoofSPoon_TSX: is that a dump of a failed call?
20:38.47AgiNamupoor americans have to report everything they do to big brother, no matter where they live.
20:38.54harryvvagi, you are canadian living in south america?
20:38.59jsolaresare you sure you dont need to?
20:39.34SPoon_TSXscoof: Yes.
20:39.36AgiNamuyep
20:39.42AgiNamuand yes jsolares. i dont need to report.
20:39.43jhiverharryvv is that 50% above the 45k or 50% for the full wage?
20:39.45scoofSPoon_TSX: can you get me a tcpdump of this?
20:40.01AgiNamuesp. since i dont do business in guatemala either :P
20:40.09harryvvjhiver not exactly sure.
20:40.09jsolareshehehehe
20:40.17SPoon_TSXscoof: I am wondering may be I should install the stable version instead of the most update CVS version and try. What do you think?
20:40.35AgiNamuSPoon, good idea.
20:40.35jhivercause if it was for the full wage it would suck earning 46k :)
20:40.40AgiNamuinstall 1.0.6
20:40.49scoofSPoon_TSX: but then we won't find the (potential) bug
20:40.51AgiNamumy friend pays tax down here
20:40.53AgiNamupoor guy
20:41.04AgiNamubut he makes a boatload of money (relative) so
20:41.15AgiNamui guess he's ok with it.
20:41.28jsolareshehe
20:41.51AgiNamuim officially bored as of .... no.
20:41.52AgiNamunow.
20:41.55harryvvjhiver I was wrong on those rates.
20:42.04bjohnsonAgiNamu: go to honduras and get me some cigars
20:42.07AgiNamujhiver, whats the dialcode for reunion
20:42.13jhiver262
20:42.13jsolaresgo find me a better tts than cepstral
20:42.14AgiNamuhonduras? why not cuban
20:42.17jhiverwhy?
20:42.19harryvvAnything over $103,000 in earned income was 43.7%
20:42.23bjohnsonI prefer honduran
20:42.25AgiNamujsolares: sure, windows has SAPI
20:42.31SPoon_TSXJust wondering how can I download the stable release 1.0.7 off the internet?
20:42.31AgiNamujust wondering
20:42.35AgiNamuwanna see what my rate is
20:42.37jsolareseww
20:42.38bjohnsonplus .. honduras is right next to guatemala
20:42.47AgiNamureunion island?
20:42.49jhiveryeah lemme know what your rate is
20:42.50jhiveryeah
20:43.08AgiNamuour residential rate is 9.7cents
20:43.16SPoon_TSXWhat commend should I use for the download?
20:43.18jsolaresouch
20:43.21rvhianyone uses a pap2 with credit card machine?
20:43.22jhiveris that the price you buy or the price you pay?
20:43.28AgiNamuthats the price I sell at.
20:43.29rvhiit fails 4 out of 5 times
20:43.32jhiverah ok
20:43.35AgiNamufor my residential customers.
20:43.40jhiverand how much do you buy it for?
20:43.45AgiNamuless
20:43.48jsolareshehehe
20:43.49jhiverof course :)
20:44.03AgiNamuwhat are good prices?
20:44.07jsolaresi buy at 1.3cents i think
20:44.14AgiNamuto Reunion Island??/
20:44.16jhiverit would have been useful for me to compare the price you buy it for and how much I can get it for over here
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20:44.26jsolareswhat who where?
20:44.33jsolaresi think i missed a sentence somewhere
20:44.39jsolareswtf is reunion island?
20:44.39AgiNamuwere talking about termination to "Reunion Island"
20:44.40harryvvI need to get a web site up that takes prepayments for call billing.
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20:44.50AgiNamusome place with medium rates
20:44.52jsolaresyeah i definetely missed that sentence
20:45.23jhiverharryvv I could do that for you for a fee - pm me if you wish
20:45.47AgiNamuwell, with say, 1 million minutes, I can sell at $0.0795
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20:46.00AgiNamubut thats not making much money for me
20:46.40AgiNamuof course, we've spent over $$,$$$ getting termination contract
20:46.42jhiverI can buy local calls @ 2 euro cents per minute - so I could sell @ 4-5 I guess...
20:46.44FuriousGeorgehey all.  i have a small office i wanted to do an * test run on.  I have  a 1ghz celeron CPU (100 mhz fsb).  will that have enough muscle for three concurrent conversations
20:46.50jsolaresyeah i get reunion island proper for 0.0778 from voipjet
20:46.54AgiNamujhiver... intersted in doing some bypass business?? :)
20:47.04jhiverif you have some volume, yes!
20:47.07AgiNamu7.7 wow
20:47.23AgiNamuwell, with a price difference of 3-4 cents, we can find volume!
20:47.26JerJer[mobile]until they run out of cash, since they are selling for a loss
20:47.28AgiNamui dont even know where the hell it is.
20:47.38jsolaresjust dont call cellulars, 0.2921
20:48.13AgiNamufurios, yes.
20:48.30scoofSPoon_TSX: how about that tcpdump before you go to stable?
20:48.40johnnybHas anyone here had a specific TDM module have echo, but not the others?
20:49.19AgiNamuvoipjet has loow rates.
20:49.25AgiNamujsolares, you interested in doing bypass ? :)
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20:49.45AgiNamuin GT, I can get a PRI and make local calls for 2 cents. 4 cents for cell.
20:49.49jsolaresi dont want to go to jail :P
20:50.05AgiNamuand the cheapest price internationally, is like 8.5 cents or so.
20:50.11AgiNamuwith a lot of volume
20:50.23AgiNamuso even selling at 7 cents... i can make a ton
20:50.38AgiNamuyou know anyone arrested for that?
20:50.44AgiNamui think telgua just says that kinda shit.
20:50.54RomanTorresHi everybody, greetings from Mexico City, my name is Roman Torres, I am working with Asterisk for Call Centers and E1 links.
20:51.01AgiNamucause telgua is full of shit and likes charging, get this, $1/minute to USA
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20:51.13jsolareswell the head at avaya was looking into doing it, beacuse of the $$$$, but a friend says you can get killed for that shit
20:51.14AgiNamuHello Roman, I am AgiNamu.
20:51.23RomanTorresHi AgiNamu
20:51.33AgiNamuI talked to someone who had done it. they said telgua just cut their lines.
20:51.38FuriousGeorgeallow me to rephrase:  how much processor is necessary to hold three conversations on an * server
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20:51.47AgiNamufurious, depends what you're doing
20:51.57AgiNamuif you're transcoding iLBC to G729, a lot more than just doing passthru
20:52.07FuriousGeorgemostly forewarding calls to another location
20:52.11jsolareslegally you have to pay them termination fees or something, and that drives up the price too much (from what i've understood)
20:52.15emrahI'm sorry to disturb again, but I have some problems with the AstCC programme. When I try to create the databe, it says failed, but no reason... My information are correct... How should I do? Do you have any guide for this programme?
20:52.40jsolaresemrah, how familiar with mysql/linux are you?
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20:53.16RomanTorresWe have had for two months already a double xeon HP 330 server with 8 E1 (240  channels) with 240 incoming calls without problems.
20:53.21emrahI can't answer that question jsolares
20:53.36jsolaresi can't answer your question
20:53.40emrahI can check the logs
20:53.42gruphdoes anyone know how to authenticate a sip client based on their source address instead of a username/password?
20:54.02emrahBut I'm just wandering if it's possible to have a README or someting like that to explain how to do.
20:54.02jsolaresi had problems with astcc and it's database so i went and created it myself using the cgi source as base
20:54.11AgiNamufurious, then a 1GHz Celeron can do a TON more than 3 calls
20:54.15Hmmhesaysi'm having a mental block, what is the command to send a dtmf digit
20:54.16AgiNamuif its just forwarding iax or sip traffic.
20:54.42srineerAgiNamu, how about say 30 calls?
20:54.45emrahgruph: I think it's possible by only specifiing the host=IP without a username and password in sip.conf.
20:54.48AgiNamudefinately
20:54.55AgiNamuwww.astertest.com
20:54.57srineerAgiNamu, how about say 130 calls?
20:55.12RomanTorresgruph, check on the defaultip parameter, asterisk will try first to send te call to that address even if yur phone is not registered.
20:55.14jsolarestry it
20:55.27AgiNamuprobably. Astertest has details.
20:55.54srineercool
20:56.14gruphRomanTorres: it's actually the other way..  I don't want Asterisk to challenge the client if it's from a certain IP address... when it registers or places a call (SIP INVITE)
20:56.36sudhir492FuriousGeorge: No matter what you are doing, 1GHz celeron is more than enough to hold 3 conversation
20:56.53FuriousGeorgeAgiNamu:  i have a dsl connection (300/80 KB/S down/up) and thinking about getting another.  the box would mostly foreward calls to another location
20:57.11AgiNamuif its just passing them off, then it's more , way more, than enough
20:57.20FuriousGeorgesudhir492:  will the bandwidth i just described cerate a bottleneck?
20:57.36FuriousGeorgewith less compressed codeecs
20:57.56jsolareswhy not use g729
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20:58.05sudhir492You are talking 80Kbps, not 80KBps (which happens to close to 384Kbps) correct
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20:58.20AgiNamuG729 is nice.
20:58.28FuriousGeorgehaving never really listened to different codecs im not sure how much actual difference there is in soundquality.  but thats my nconcern
20:58.29epoch...for me to poop on!
20:58.31AgiNamuif anyone wants to play with the g729 codec... check out my site.
20:58.37grendal_primeok i just want a SIP SERVER so i can kphone a couple of computers...is that all that difficult?
20:58.40AgiNamuyou can probably learn enough to make your own patch
20:58.44AgiNamuand activate a ton of licenses.
20:59.01jsolaresi'm using intel's code :X
20:59.14sudhir492FuriousGeorge: where are you forwarding your calls to? Another Asterisk?
20:59.16AgiNamuim using digiums, with licenses.
20:59.18nelanybody had problems with echo and pstn lines?
20:59.21AgiNamubut I also have digiums, without liecnes.
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20:59.31AgiNamuIt's a single BIT patch :)
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20:59.48FuriousGeorgesudhir492:  nit yet but some day
20:59.53FuriousGeorge*not yet
20:59.55grendal_primeis there anyone who can help me with basic config of a SIP server?
20:59.59AgiNamuso, theoretically, a gamma ray could strike your disk, and activate your codec_g729.so for tons of licenses.
21:00.11FuriousGeorgeto PSTN lines at first
21:00.14ddumDamn... just realized there is no way for me (it seem) to do * with CID... GAH.
21:00.14sudhir492FuriousGeorge: Tell me exactly how you plan to use your asterisk?
21:00.24RomanTorresgruph, that is a strange problem, may I ask the objetive for not letting certain ip addresses to register? because that can be easily done with the linux iptables command
21:00.33FuriousGeorgethe box would mostly foreward calls to another location
21:00.40FuriousGeorgeits for an office no one is ever at
21:00.45FuriousGeorgeafter 5 rings foreward
21:00.56nelany ideas on how to troubleshoot zaptel card for echo?
21:01.04sudhir492JerJer[mobile]: I am done compiling PWLib and Openh323 :-)
21:01.10grendal_primeRomanTorres, maybe you do want individuals to connect to other services
21:01.11nelthe other party don't hear the echo, just me calling
21:01.16RomanTorresnel, check the rxgain and txgain parameters on zaptel.conf
21:01.22grendal_primejust not voip..or whatever..
21:01.48gruphRomanTorres: I'm having an ATA place a call to a SER server, and having the SER server proxy to an Asterisk server to go out to the PSTN.
21:02.12gruphRomanTorres: I can't get SER to respond to an authorization request from Asterisk.
21:02.17grendal_primeyou knock them all out with iptables..and well it might just be easyer to use the asterisk app to limit that sort of traffic
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21:03.58RomanTorresgruph, you can check what is going on if you do this command on the asterisk box: tethereal -p -n port 5060, if the problem is the authorization request maybe it will show you more information
21:04.09nelromantorres: how do those rx and tx parameters affect echo?
21:04.36FuriousGeorgesudhir492:  did u see my respone to your question, above
21:04.38RomanTorresnel, when you put a negative value on the rxgain and txgain parameters echo is diminished
21:05.07gruphRomanTorres: I'm actually using tcpdump printing out the raw data watching the SIP traffic.  that's how I knew that SER wasn't responding to the auth request.
21:05.52avishanyone has experience with AGI/EAGI?
21:06.04RomanTorresgruph, thethereal shows you a lot more info than tcpdump, since tcpdump only shows ip addresses and ports, tethereal show you more information about sip requests and answers
21:06.13Hmmhesaysavish: some love it some hate it, some don't care
21:06.49avishi guess i was wondering how to write an application for asterisk without spawning a new process every call
21:06.56sudhir492FuriousGeorge: Calls coming on PSTN line to Asterisk box, couple of SIP phones in the office, incoming calls first routed to one of the SIP extensions, if the no one picks up then the call is forwarded to someone else through another PSTN line, correct ?
21:07.00gruphRomanTorres: if you run "tcpdump -s 0 -e -w - udp and port 5060" it'll print the contents of the packets out to the command line.
21:07.08RomanTorresgruph, you are right.
21:07.40sudhir492FuriousGeorge: Need a complete picture to better help you
21:07.52gruphRomanTorres: thanks for the suggestion though.  I appreciate it!
21:08.30FuriousGeorgesudhir492:  sort of.  calls ring on two analog extensions, if no answer, foreward to another PSTN line via SIP (or maybe another pots, depends which is cheaper)
21:09.09emrahjsolares: Can you please have a look at that? (sorry to disturb you...) http://pastebin.ca/8492
21:09.11FuriousGeorgeobviously, if i do pots i dont need too much bandwidth
21:09.12RomanTorresgruph, are you using the "canreinvite=no" parameter? since if you dont have it maybe asterisk tries to contact the sip client direclty instead on the SER
21:09.17sudhir492FuriousGeorge: Whatever you are doing, you have enough muscles in your processors.
21:09.40FuriousGeorgethanks, thats really what i was hoping to hear
21:09.54gruphRomanTorres: no I don't...  let me give that a try.....
21:10.06sudhir492FuriousGeorge: Assume around 32Kbps bandwidth consumption per G729 SIP channel, you can figure the rest
21:10.33tzanger... 32kbps for g729?
21:10.52emrahjsolares: ?
21:10.54tzangerthe payload is only 8kbps, why would overhead be quadrupling that?
21:11.04tzangerhell my gsm wirespeed is about 40kbps
21:11.51emrahAnyone can help me please? (sorry to disturb you. )
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21:11.56nelis it normal to have echo on your side using FXO card ?
21:12.53FuriousGeorgei got one more quick theoretical question, then im gonna go practice:  if i have two internet connections "bridged" and one goes down is it transparent to asterisk?  how much configuration is involved on the asterisk side for that failsafe?
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21:13.38scoofFuriousGeorge: impossible to tell from that description
21:13.59jsolaresemrah, use the latter create table cdrs
21:14.04jsolaresthe one with callstart
21:14.54emrahsorry?
21:15.06FuriousGeorgescoof:  i lack the vocab to elaborate much better:  howabout this  two modems go into my asterisk box which does all the routing and firewall stuff (a third NIC sends connection to LAN)
21:15.20jsolaresemrah, use those create tables
21:15.27jsolaresbut only use the second for the table cdrs
21:15.35FuriousGeorgeive never set that up on a linux box before, but assuming i did, is it transparent to asterisk if one connection goes down
21:15.35jsolaresthe one with callstart in it
21:15.38nestArhrmmm
21:15.46SPoon_TSXMay I know how to downlaod the stable release off the internet?
21:15.47scoofFuriousGeorge: you would need some routing mechanism or VRRP-style setup at your provider to fail over there
21:15.55nestArwell.. i've run into a problem with my CheckGroup/SetGroup logic
21:16.13scoofFuriousGeorge: there's a multitude of ways to set that up
21:17.07FuriousGeorgescooif:  in windows you can right click on your NIC's icon and bridge the connection, it works as ive described.  which of the multitude of ways makes that happen for linux
21:17.07scoofFuriousGeorge: but Asterisk doesn't need be involved in any of them, they're operating-system- or router-specific
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21:17.32FuriousGeorgescoof:  thats my biggest concern.  good to know
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21:17.59scoofFuriousGeorge: modems aren'
21:18.09scoofFuriousGeorge: modems aren't ethernet nics
21:18.14FuriousGeorgei know this
21:18.19scoofFuriousGeorge: what you're describing is probably LAG
21:18.28FuriousGeorgei assumed you understood that the two modems were going into nics
21:18.38FuriousGeorgelag?
21:19.20scoofFuriousGeorge: 802.3ad Link Aggregation
21:19.39scoofFuriousGeorge: and since that's an ethernet-standard, your "modems" doesn't really belong in that design
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21:21.07FuriousGeorgei know what your saying about this. but i said "two modems going into my asterisk box" as an easy way for me to describe having "two dsl connections from going into eth0 and eth1 respectively..."  etc
21:21.38scoofFuriousGeorge: Link Aggregation wouldn't be what you're looking for in that case
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21:22.27FuriousGeorgehmm,  my goal (in theory) is two have two differnt broadband ISP's.  if both are working, combine the bandwidth, one goes down, use only one
21:22.30scoofFuriousGeorge: regardless of the choice of operating system
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21:22.53BlissexFuriousGeorge: that will cost you serious money...
21:23.01scoofBlissex: not really
21:23.06FuriousGeorgearound here, a dsl connection is 35 / mo
21:23.22Blissexscoof: FuriousGeorge: go ahead, make my day ;-)
21:23.27scoofFuriousGeorge: a DSL connection to what? The internet or a layer2 point-to-point circuit?
21:23.28FuriousGeorge300 KB/s down and 80 KB/s up
21:23.53FuriousGeorgescoof:  the former since i dont know what the latter is
21:24.04AgiNamuaround here, a real ADSL connection is $230 a month. 512K
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21:24.09FuriousGeorgemaybe its the latter since you said "point to point" and it uses PPPoE
21:24.18scoofAgiNamu: let's not take that detour again ;)
21:24.25FuriousGeorgeAgiNamu:  where?
21:24.28AgiNamuguatemala
21:24.33FuriousGeorgehay dios mio
21:24.45RomanTorresFuriousGeorge: to link two different default routes at the same time and do traffic balancing you need to patch the linux kernel with this: http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/
21:24.48scoofAgiNamu: working for a CLEC, that's a creature that needs no further flogging ;)
21:25.03BlissexRomanTorres: the problem is doing that on ADSL is impossible...
21:25.27BlissexRomanTorres: unless both ADSL ISPs cooperate, and then they charge serious money.
21:25.28tzangerRomanTorres: both sides need to support that
21:25.32RomanTorresBlissex, I have a system with 4 ppoe links over DSL at the same time...
21:25.58FuriousGeorgeblissex:  really, impossible?  forget adsl, what about two residential cable connections
21:26.03tzangerRomanTorres: back in the day I used four 33k6 modems for an uplink for an ISP :-)
21:26.03BlissexRomanTorres: from the same ISP yes....
21:26.07BlissexFuriousGeorge: same.
21:26.10scoofBlissex: if you could survive with a simple failover and don't need hot standby, that can be done by simple post-routing NAT
21:26.11tzangerfour 33k6 modems and a satellite feed to be exact
21:26.22tzangerany lowlatency traffic went through the modems, everything else over satellite
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21:26.52Blissexscoof: think carefully about what FuriousGeorge said: «both are working, combine the bandwidth»
21:27.19FuriousGeorge...if not use only one...
21:27.26scoofBlissex: you would never loadbalance pr packet anyway, that would introduce huge amounts of jitter
21:27.37Blissexscoof: the problem is that most probably his two ADSL endpoints are in different and not portable IP subranges...
21:27.49RomanTorresBlissex: One is a Satellite link, two DSL with the same provider, another with other provider. The kernel patches makes the linux system do the balancing without any cooperation from the ISP.
21:27.56scoofBlissex: and that's where post-routing NAT comes in to play
21:28.03BlissexRomanTorres: that load balancing is impossible.
21:28.06FuriousGeorgeholy crap my head is spinning.  the jist im getting is that ISPs dont support what i want to do as far sas the "combining the bandwidth" part
21:28.33BlissexRomanTorres: unless the ISPs give you a portable globally routed set of addresses, for which they charge serious money.
21:28.33scoofBlissex: that's not true; but it's not easy to accomplish in a "clean" way
21:28.42scoofBlissex: again untrue
21:28.53Blissexscoof: as I said, make my day :-)
21:28.54FuriousGeorgeim going to "fstab" myself
21:29.12RomanTorresBlissex: check this url: http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/nano.txt
21:29.31scoofBlissex: you're judging way too fast
21:29.40BlissexRomanTorres: its pointless, it is just impossible. Think of what happens to return packets...
21:30.14Blissexscoof: it is one of those things that just cannot work, again unless you pay one or both ISPs to do it. And they charge serious monye for it.
21:30.18tzangerBlissex: well you kind of can, that's why :-)
21:30.25SagoDanI'm having some issues with DID  or inbound # from a IAX provider do i have to create an extension in order for it to work ?
21:30.39FuriousGeorgesort of like how ISP's dont really honer QoS from users?
21:30.48hardwireBlissex: you can sort of do that
21:30.52BlissexFuriousGeorge: no, it is really a baseline routing issue.
21:31.04SagoDanif i have the extension created it calls in but then goes to voicemail because that extension isn't live; however if i do not have the extension it'll goto a fast busy signal
21:31.15nestArgah
21:31.27scoofBlissex: I'd use two GRE tunnels to have some link-failure detection, and route my own set of RFC1918-addresses on those links. I'd do NAT of the two GRE tunnels so that the return traffic would be routed properly the other way, and OSPF and ECMP on the links would balance the traffic.
21:31.32FuriousGeorgewhat are we saying in practice?  that if we send data that is contigious through two disparate connections we cannot guarentee that it will arrive in the correct order w/o cooperation from the ISP
21:31.35nestArwhy can't polycom just give me an option to disable call waiting!?!?!
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21:31.46nelis there any program or way to calculate the echo cancellation?
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21:31.57tzangernel: "calculate the echo cancellation" ?
21:32.05hardwirenestAr: isn't their a Dial parameter that deals w/ that?
21:32.15scoofFuriousGeorge: you should NEVER load-balance per packet over these, for that exact reason
21:32.21RomanTorresBlissex: Just chech that url, http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/nano.txt, it shows you a clean way to have up to 8 different providers with load balancing.
21:32.22BlissexFuriousGeorge: if you ahve two ADSL lines, one has address IP1 and the other address IP2. IP1 belongs to the address allocation of ISP1, and IP2 to the address allocation of ISP2. Unless you pay serious money, packets for or from IP1 will never travel via ISP2, and viceversa.
21:32.28neltzanger: I'm using a digium fxo card to connect asterisk to an analog phone line on an old centrex and I'm hearing myself when I speak
21:32.39Blissexscoof: but having OSPF support costs serious money.
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21:32.43tzangernel: what country are you from
21:32.46nelpeople hear me with no eacho
21:32.49scoofFuriousGeorge: once a session is established on one you'd want to keep it there to not introduce jitter
21:32.49nelargentina
21:32.51nestArhardwire: SetGroup and CheckGroup works.. but works too well.
21:32.58FuriousGeorgei would
21:32.59scoofBlissex: no, OSPF is free with Zebra
21:32.59nelI'm in US though
21:32.59hardwiretoo well :)
21:33.13tzangernel: is your nation's telephone line impedance the same as north america? (600 ohms I think) ?
21:33.27nestArhardwire: because the SetGroup is set to the Zap channel, when I transfer a call to someone else in the building, i don't get anymore calls until that person hangs up.
21:33.27hardwireBlissex: I typically recommend colocating at the DSL pop if you are doing that
21:33.33hardwireif those are dsl lines from the same pop
21:33.56scoofhardwire: that's not always an option
21:34.01Blissexscoof: OSPF costs money because the _ISP_ has to let you do it.
21:34.28Blissexscoof: ISPs charge money for globally routable, portable IP address ranges...
21:34.30neltzanger: I'm in US , and I'm using a centrex line from verizon
21:34.36scoofBlissex: not to run OSPF on your own GRE tunnels
21:34.37tzangernel: ok
21:34.39hardwirescoof: newp
21:34.49hardwireheya.. so whats the issue?
21:34.56Blissexscoof: but the problem is, what is the address of the endpoint of the GRE tunnel...
21:34.58hardwireyou wanna split rtp streams against two uplinks?
21:35.01scoofBlissex: I know how globally routed unicast address space works
21:35.05tzangernel: basically make sure your gains are set to 0.0 and start out with echocancel=64
21:35.12scoofBlissex: that's the single public address your ISP assigns to you
21:35.19tzangeryou need to stop and start (not just reload) asterisk with every change
21:35.22tzangerit takes some tuning
21:35.23neltzanger: if 64 doesn't work, what is next?
21:35.24nel:P
21:35.30tzangerthe wiki has info on how to do this nicely
21:35.31Blissexscoof: the single public address the ISP assigns you is not _portable_.
21:35.37tzangerI don't think the fxotune utility works with the x100P
21:35.43tzangernel: try 128, then 32
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21:35.58scoofBlissex: it doesn't have to be, you run a single GRE instance for each of your DSL-connections
21:36.15nelhow do I update changes, using ztvcfg -v ?
21:36.16Blissexscoof: and is surely not globally routable -- it is only routes by that ISP. Again, it costs money to have an ISP advertise a portable address space.
21:36.16reallost1When an agi script finishes, what would keep it from returning control to asterisk dial plan?
21:36.25tzangernel: no that is only for /etc/zapata.conf changes
21:36.31tzangerstop and start asterisk (not just reload)
21:36.38Blissexscoof: you are talking tech mumbo jumbo... Whether GRE is involved or not the problem is a simpl _routing_ issue.
21:36.56tzangerscoof: please step away from the keybaord and listen to Blissex, he is not bullshitting you
21:37.09scoofBlissex: you *don't* use global address space, you run your *own* private address space over a virtual infrastructure
21:37.10tzangerif you want true multirouting you need expensive multihomed IP space.  No amount of software magic is going to get around that
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21:37.35Wazbhi all
21:37.44tzangerscoof: and how do you propose to have this virtual space on two separate ISPs?
21:37.48Blissexscoof: all the routes for a residential IP address are advertised by a single ISP. This means that no other ISP will route them, unless you pay them, and that cost serious money.
21:37.49scooftzanger: if you want true multihoming to the internet as a whole, yes, not to multihome to another part of your own network over the internet as an infrastructure
21:37.57Wazbhow can i register H323 phone with asterisk?
21:38.03tzangerscoof: only if you have equipment at the common point of both networks
21:38.10tzangerscoof: and if that's the case you may as well put your * box there
21:38.21RomanTorresTzanger: I have a Linux box with 4 links, without paying anything extra to the ISPs. Everything you need is to have a patched linux kernel with the nano extensions.
21:38.25scooftzanger: and that's what he does, he just doesn't have the phone lines there
21:38.26tzangerscoof: and save yourself all the fucking hassle of pissing about with "virtual ip space" to begin with
21:38.38tzangerRomanTorres: and I will bet you dollars to donuts that you are not truly load balancing
21:38.47tzangerRomanTorres: you're load balancing your OUTGOING traffic, not your incoming traffic
21:38.58tzangerthe incoming traffic follows whatever path the outgoing request went through
21:39.01scoofBlissex: I know, I've built such networks
21:39.12tzangerscoof: ok so you know what you're doing, go do it
21:39.41RomanTorresTzanger: I do balance both, obvously, since any request that by chance gets on a line, is answered on the same line
21:39.49tzangerRomanTorres: exactly
21:39.53tzangerit's not true load balancing
21:40.13tzangerif you make a request that asks for a metric buttload of data in response, that entire metric buttload is coming in over that ONE link, not spread over the 4
21:40.24tzanger(imperial buttloads might be different, I'm in Canada and don't know <g>)
21:40.32FuriousGeorgeok, waht about something mroe simple.  two isp's.  use one for  and one for surfing and everything else.  if  isp goes down how can i tell linux to switch automagically?  what do i need to go look up?
21:40.47BlissexFuriousGeorge: that's not difficult.
21:40.52tzangerFuriousGeorge: some ping tests and some astdb stuff.  piece of cake
21:40.57scooftzanger: you wouldn't want to balance it per packet anyway, VoIP doesn't like the jitter
21:41.01FuriousGeorgedont know what i did there.  should read "use one for * and one for everything else"
21:41.08RomanTorrestzanger: well we can argue about that, but since for example I can tell the linux box to send for each 16 requests, to divide 4 requests on each line, well I have a pretty decent balancing.
21:41.10tzangerscoof: correct
21:41.13neltzanger: I also compiled zaptel drivers with the aggresive echo suppresion using mark2
21:41.15sivanabgp4
21:41.17nelthat didn't help
21:41.17BlissexFuriousGeorge: all you need to do, if you want to do it manually, is just bring down the interface that failed.
21:41.23tzangerRomanTorres: and you're doing that?  for all protocols?  bullshit.
21:41.29tzangernel: NO
21:41.33tzangernel: turn off agressive
21:41.39tzangerit's worse than regular old MARK2
21:41.45FuriousGeorgeblissex:  no one is ever in this office, i would not want to have to do it manually
21:41.51BlissexRomanTorres: yes, that's pretty decent _connection_ balancing, but it does not have not have much failover.
21:41.54FuriousGeorgeshoot if not i could switch the cat5
21:41.58scoofsivana: you seem to be mimicking Yakov ;)
21:41.59tzangercompile with MMX support (zconfig.h), and compile with CFLAGS+=-march=yourprocessorhere
21:42.24BlissexFuriousGeorge: then as tzanger said, a little script with a 'ping' might be all you need.
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21:43.23FuriousGeorgeblissex:  always wanted an excuse to learn me some scripting.  it would be running in the BR, pinging every minute or so on the asterisk ISP, if it went down then switch right
21:43.44BlissexFuriousGeorge: yes, that would be pretty like it.
21:44.18FuriousGeorgelast ?:  whats involved in the switch part.  how do i make isp1=isp2 or eth0 = eth1 as the case may be
21:44.25sivanahehe
21:44.30sivanabgp4
21:44.33BlissexFuriousGeorge: its not right, but something like: while sleep 10; do if ! ping -q ...; ....; fi; done
21:44.47BlissexFuriousGeorge: you dont need to switch anything...
21:44.56BlissexFuriousGeorge: ecept the default route perhaps.
21:45.10FuriousGeorgei think im gonna cross this bridge after i build it
21:45.15BlissexFuriousGeorge: or if you use 'nexhtop' routing, disable that on one of the hops.
21:45.31RomanTorresBlissex: If you do the ip route thing with the nano extensions, and at the same time you use dns multipble addresses for each of your external addresses, you can have a very good sip server balancing .
21:46.16BlissexRomanTorres: it will be a good per connection balancing -- splitting N connections across M lines.
21:46.59tzangerBlissex: agreed, but that's not data load balancing
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21:47.11tzangerwhich is what I understood the asker really wanted
21:47.13RomanTorresBlissex: Exactly. If you want to have the same connection on several links at the same time it would be a real problem.
21:47.33Blissextzanger: or for that matter, any degree of transparent failover.
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21:48.07tzangerBlissex: yes... it'll failover just fine but if a link that you were using falls down you'll have to reconnect
21:48.43Blissextzanger: that's not very ''transparent'' as we both agree...
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21:49.04Blissextzanger: ...at least to the two people on that call :-)
21:49.30sivanaI don't think it can be across two different subnects
21:49.34sivanasubnets
21:50.17jhiverYou can do data load balancing with OpenVPN + ethernet bridging + routing
21:50.19Blissexsivana: that's why one needs a _portable_ address range...
21:50.29sivanaBlissex: correct, and bgp4
21:50.51jhivercreate an tap (ethernet) OpenVPN tunnel for each link
21:50.55Blissexsivana: more precisely, BGP4 support from the ISPs involved, and that costs money...
21:50.55scoofjhiver: incidentally, a variation of what I just said earlier :)
21:51.03jhiverthen bridge all the tunnels together
21:51.13jhiverthen route each port through a separate connection
21:51.23jhiverthe links must be same capacity
21:51.40jhiverand you need to do the routing on both ends of the link, so you need static ip adresses
21:51.42sivanaI'm talking if you want complete transparency without interruption
21:51.43tzangerjhiver: yes, if you have equipment at the common point of where the multiple links come together...  but you may as well get multihomed IP space, I bet it'd be cheaper and it would certainly be more reliable
21:51.57tzangerjhiver: and less laggy (no encryption or x86 routing decisions)
21:52.02jhiverit depends what you want to do
21:52.11scoofsivana: BGP global convergence time is too high to get that transparency anyway
21:52.25tzangerscoof: we never said that wouldn't work, just that it's not as feasable as just getting multihomed IP space and paying for it
21:52.45scooftzanger: I beg to differ
21:52.49SagoDananyone work with DID #'s ??
21:53.02tzangerscoof: beg all you want.  Set up both and benchmark it.
21:53.06jhivertzanger: sometimes you don't have that option
21:53.18scoof23:30 < Blissex> scoof: it is one of those things that just cannot work, again unless you pay one or both ISPs to do it. And they charge serious monye for it.
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21:53.59tzangeryour method = colocation + (usually) consumer grade equipment.  standard method = no colocation, just expensive IP space + utilizing the provider's already tested and monitored routers
21:54.00Blissexscoof: and that's exactly true, still.
21:54.20jhiverover here it's 150EUR for a 1024/256 DSL but 1500 for a 512k symetrical (monthly)
21:54.30Blissextzanger: but colocation does use expensive IP space...
21:54.32FuriousGeorgetzanger:  why are the two identical isp's as described above not as feasable as a multihomed ip?
21:54.44jhiverso 3 DSL + OpenVPN + bonding + multiling = 3 times cheaper
21:54.49tzangerBlissex: ok ok technically speaking sure but you're getting more than just ip space for the price :-)
21:54.53jhivermultilink I meant
21:54.57tzangerjhiver: uh
21:54.57scooftzanger: no colocation in my method, no.
21:55.07Blissextzanger: the problem statement involves just residential ISP lines...
21:55.11QuickDrySagoDan: Generic DID question, or Asterisk Specific?
21:55.15tzangerjhiver: you're forgetting that you need to colocate at the point where all three ISPs bandwidth comes together
21:55.32tzangerscoof: is this point to point or point to multipoint?
21:55.35jhiverthat's like 50EUR / month for dedicated server hosting
21:55.42scooftzanger: point to point
21:55.46FuriousGeorgeblissex:  if i may (having made the problem statement) its only a bit more to get a static ip
21:55.52scooftzanger: with redundancy at one end
21:56.00tzangerjhiver: dedicated server hosting at a datacenter that all three ISP's bandwidth goes through.
21:56.07tzangerscoof: point to point then you can do it, sure
21:56.16tzangeryou have N connections at each end (price: 2*N)
21:56.20jhivertzanger: why?
21:56.24BlissexFuriousGeorge: its not just static IP, the static IP must be in so-called portable (multi-homable) IP address space.
21:56.35jhiverthere's enough bandwith on my server, doesn't seem to be a pb
21:56.44tzangerjhiver: how do you expect to load balance the data (I'm not talking connection load balancing, yo udon't need bridging or openvpn for that)
21:56.49jhiverI've tried this solution with 2 connections from the same provider
21:56.58jhiverI told you
21:57.04tzangeroh
21:57.08tzangersame provider, my mistake
21:57.10jhiver1 - you make 3 virtual ethernet using OpenVPN
21:57.15FuriousGeorgeso then what does windows do when you "bridge connection"  just the failover part?
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21:57.20Hmmhesaysopenvpn is nice
21:57.20jhiver2 - you route them through your different ISP routes
21:57.21Hmmhesaysvery nice
21:57.23BlissexFuriousGeorge: that is expensive because it is ''business grade''.
21:57.33tzangerI prefer openswan myself
21:57.33jhiver3 - you bond them back onto one ethernet
21:57.36scoofFuriousGeorge: nope, that's a protocol between windows and the switch it's connected to
21:57.42FuriousGeorgeblissex:  round here its 70/mo for business dsl w/ static ip
21:57.47FuriousGeorgenot sure about the mukltihomed part
21:58.01FuriousGeorgeand the whole routing end of it seems more complicated then *.  i know it uses PPP
21:58.16jhiverIt's better to have the same provider... less jitter = less increased latency
21:58.23vidia22can anyone give me some advice on how to get a x100p to work?
21:58.25BlissexFuriousGeorge: the multihomed/portable bit is expensive... Not erribly, just a lot more than ADSL....
21:58.32vidia22any help would be appreciated:)
21:58.36jhiverand yes i just *love* openvpn
21:58.49tzangerjhiver: except when the provider has connectivity issues :-)
21:58.53BlissexFuriousGeorge: if you have ''portable'' IP addresses the routing is very very simple; it is all automagic.
21:59.00nestArvidia22: have you checked the wiki? zaptel drivers is pretty much all you need.
21:59.11jhiverwell when your bandwith is bust there's not much you can do at any rate :(
21:59.26neltzanger: I have tried with the different values, I don't see any change:( any other idea?
21:59.55FuriousGeorgeblissex:  and that is for the load balancing?  so if i called my isp and they said our "static IPs are portable", then (if it werent too complicated) i could do the load balancing mentioned aboce
22:00.00tzangernel: how much time do you have...  there's a lot of things but they involve equipment and time
22:00.00FuriousGeorge*above
22:00.16FuriousGeorge(and thats a big if
22:00.26jhivernow some cool providers do DSL bonding... that's cool
22:00.40jhiverorder X DSLs, have X times the bandwith
22:00.45vidia22nestAr - I have and have zapel running...
22:00.47jhivertoo bad they don't do it where I live :(
22:00.55BlissexFuriousGeorge: not only their ADSL static IPs will not be portable, but even if they were you need to pay the other ISP too to route them... Then things become easy.
22:00.56FuriousGeorgejhiver who does it where?
22:01.08jhiverNildram does it in the UK
22:01.20nestArvidia22: you edit your /etc/zaptel.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf ?
22:01.28Blissexjhiver: and Easynet too IIRC, and possibly also Clara...
22:01.33FuriousGeorgeblissex:  i get it.  if i had the multihomed watchmacallit then its automagic, but expensive
22:01.45vidia22nastat - yes - I have a very basic config that I think is good
22:01.55jhiverSo I have to stick with the 'poor's man bonding' I devised :)
22:02.00vidia22nastar - I am wondering if I have bad hardware...???
22:02.02NewSoleQuestion is there a doc to setup ZapRAS
22:02.04FuriousGeorgejhiver:  doubt they have relay stations going "accross the pond"
22:02.04BlissexFuriousGeorge: yes... Not _terribly_ expensive, but still fairly expensive. Like perhaps 10 times more than ADSL alone.
22:02.12nestArvidia22: does the module load?
22:02.19vidia22zaptel does yes
22:02.24neltzanger: I have time
22:02.33nestArvidia22: IE: modprobe wcfxo
22:02.43nestArthen run ztcfg
22:02.47tzangernel: then go to voip-info.org and read up... there is a lot of info on there on getting rid of the cho
22:02.47nestArthen run asterisk
22:03.07vidia22ok - I have run modprobe but not ztcfg...
22:03.09Hmmhesayscho ?  margaret cho?
22:03.16vidia22I should kill asterisk first?
22:03.20Hmmhesaysba dum ching!
22:03.23nestAri would
22:03.33nelthanks I have read some there
22:03.36vidia22ok - Ill try - THANKS:)
22:04.02nestArcheck the wiki
22:04.03nestArhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Hardware
22:04.15nestArit's been a while since i've messed with a X100P
22:04.29nestAri have one at home, but i don't use it because caller id doesn't seem to work
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22:06.04JerJer[mobile]someone remind me...do channel banks have a male or female amphinal connector on them?
22:06.18Corydon-wIt depends
22:06.24JerJer[mobile]ta 750
22:06.31Corydon-wmale
22:06.34JerJer[mobile]ok
22:06.53nestAri've figured out how to fix this SetGroup problem...
22:07.03nestArbuy phones that you can disable callwaiting on
22:07.15nestAranyone got a suggestion?
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22:08.24JerJer[mobile]thanks
22:10.24tzangerJerJer[mobile]: I've always seen female
22:10.27RomanTorresHas anyone here messed up with Unicall (E1 MFC/R2)? I have a problem with the dtmf tones not working.
22:10.32tzangerAdit600, AB1/2
22:12.54vidia22nestAR: same results... nothing...
22:13.18vidia22nestAR: is there a way to see results from modprobe?  or any way to see output form card?
22:14.49nestArdmesg
22:15.06vidia22nestAR: I am running kudzu - should I let it try to config the card?
22:15.06nestAror grep wcfxo /var/log/messages
22:15.14nestArno idea man
22:15.30vidia22thanks again:)
22:15.41nestArsorry
22:15.42nestAr:)
22:15.56nestAryou can also try doing a ztcfg -v
22:16.01nestArfor verbose output from that part
22:16.26Hmmhesaysheh, ser can be a pain
22:18.17vidia22nestAr - my grep of the log shows that wcfxo is found (DAA mode is FCC)
22:18.30nestArwell, that's promising
22:18.40vidia22running ztconfig however with the verbose on shows 0 cards configured...
22:19.15vidia22???? WTF :)
22:19.56nestArmy /etc/zaptel.conf is very simple
22:19.56nestArloadzone=us
22:19.57nestArdefaultzone=us
22:19.57nestArfxsks=1
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22:20.34vidia22yes - I have that ...  exactly...
22:20.52bprice20has realtime been rolled into asterisk stable yet
22:20.56nestArztcfg -vvv
22:21.05tzangerI hope never
22:21.23bprice20I'm using cvs from a month or 2 ago but I want to move to stable for production
22:21.35vidia22same amount of verbose....  still says 0 channels...
22:21.47bprice20ftp.digium.com is down or i'd take a look myself
22:21.57vidia22bad card?? bad pci slot???
22:22.00harryvvchannel =1
22:22.28nestAri get...
22:22.28nestArChannel map:
22:22.29nestArChannel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)
22:22.29nestAr1 channels configured.
22:23.35bprice20took a look at the wiki apparently not
22:24.02anthmstable is for horses !
22:24.07SagoDanQuickDry: its kinda generic question i guess specific to asterisk though... I'm trying to get the DID to work however i wasn't able to with out an extension all i would get would be a busy signal.
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22:24.19fugitivohi
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22:27.05bannermanThe bunny, the bunny, oh I love the bunny. I don't love my mom, or my dad, just the bunny...
22:27.22marlowebunny's are cool
22:27.28Wonkaand tasty
22:27.36bannermanvery tasty when made of chocolate
22:30.39bannermanIt's so odd. If I add members to my queue by their agent number (agent/101) they aren't able to transfer inbound calls. If I add members directly (SIP/102) they are
22:30.55bannermanit truncates the last digit of the extension that they try to dial
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22:31.20facek_czehello
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22:32.30cjkhi, anyone here who knows how to fix a broken firmware upgraded ATCOM phone
22:32.45bannermanI suggest a large hammer.
22:33.09cjkbannerman, i tried but still is not working
22:33.40bannermanwish I could help, I don't know anything about atcom phones :-/
22:34.12bannermanwould it help if I made more bad jokes?
22:34.53cjkyeah maybe
22:34.59cftbli think it would
22:35.01cjkbut does not matter i will call them
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22:35.33cjkbut their phones are great. iax support is working and ilbc support will be released soon
22:35.37cjkand they are damn cheap
22:35.48bannermanOk. I'll think up some new ones in case you don't have any luck there. You never know, someone might come around that actually knows about phones too.
22:35.51bannermanI'll have to look into those
22:36.14bannermanthese ariavoice phones are ok, but I have a feeling some of my random issues are coming from them just being cheap
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22:37.52sivanaheh
22:38.00sivanabye bye
22:38.05brimstonedoes anyone have an example of a working "Action: Status" command via the manager API?
22:38.39nestArbrimstone: i may
22:38.42nestArlet me look
22:38.48brimstoneawesome, thanks
22:39.03Hmmhesaysbrimstone
22:39.05Hmmhesayswiki
22:39.06Hmmhesaysgo there
22:39.13brimstonei didn't see one on the wiki
22:39.49Hmmhesaysoh
22:40.11nestArnah, i don't have one
22:40.12nestArsorryt
22:40.18brimstonethe problem is that i don't know what to put for the Channel: parameter
22:40.32Hmmhesayschannel name
22:40.34brimstoneZap/2, Zap/2-1 and 2 don't work
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22:41.41Hmmhesaysi only use the status on sip channels
22:42.27brimstonehow would you name the zap channels then?
22:42.34brimstoneor get the name of the zap channels?
22:42.43brimstoneZapShowChannels works, but lists all the channels
22:42.48brimstoneand i just need to know about one
22:42.52Hmmhesaysfrom the manager?
22:42.56brimstoneyup
22:43.05Hmmhesaysi don't know of any good way, maybe sort by callerid?
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22:43.32Hmmhesaysbrimstone.... take a look at FOP server.pl
22:43.33nestAreff work
22:43.34brimstonei'm tring to determine which FXOs are not busy with a call
22:43.35Hmmhesaysit's written in perl
22:43.36nestAri'm going hom.
22:43.44brimstonewhere is FOP server.pl ?
22:43.54Hmmhesayswww.asternic.org i think
22:44.24Hmmhesaysnicolas might be able to help you out
22:44.34brimstoneok, thanks
22:44.39brimstonei'll poke around some more with it
22:44.54Hmmhesaysfop can monitor zap channels
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22:48.01fugitivoif I modify zapata.conf, what do I need to reload?
22:48.05Wazbhi again
22:48.22TheSinfugitivo, asterisk for sure
22:48.25Wazbi need to configure sip proxy server , please help me in setup
22:48.38fugitivojust a "reload" ?
22:48.40Hmmhesaysyou won't get help like that wazb
22:48.50Hmmhesaysyou'll get a whole lot of RTFM
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22:49.02facek_i am looking for .net component for build iax or sip softphone, abybody know sth about it?
22:49.14TheSinfugitivo, my exp with zapata is you need to restart it
22:49.15Lee__Is caller ID determined on a per extension basis?
22:49.19Wazbthen what i need to do
22:49.32fugitivoTheSin: thanks
22:49.34Hmmhesaysread the wiki
22:49.38Hmmhesays~docs
22:49.39jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
22:49.47Hmmhesaysthat is where you start
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22:50.50TheSinanyone ever see something like this?
22:50.50TheSinExtension '' in context 'incoming' from '!' does not exist
22:50.50TheSinPRI: received SETUP message for call that is not a new call, wicked!!!
22:51.02TheSinon a digium TE110P
22:52.08Wazbthanks
22:52.36Hmmhesaysnp
22:53.03TheSinwith pri debug span 1 on
22:53.39TheSinI see the Dialed and Dialing number are set and right
22:54.25TheSinwhy would asterisk get Extension ''
22:54.25ctooley2005-03-30 16:53:46 WARNING[1846]: chan_iax2.c:6007 socket_read: Received mini frame before first full voice frame
22:54.26ctooleyThat mean anything to anyone
22:56.46QuickDryIs there a manual anywhere that covers most of the popular features and reads more like a book? Unless I just suck at using the wiki, it seems like it jumps all over the place. Looking for something a little more concise.
22:57.05VirTERManyone runs iax channels from RealTime?
22:57.25emrahI' having a new problem with the AstCC programme. When I call the AGI interface, it asks for an account number with 12 digits... What's that? My card numbers have 8 digits...
22:57.35ctooleyVirTERM, I do
22:57.52ctooleyQuickDry, asteriskdocs.org
22:57.55VirTERMcan you share your table structure :)?
22:58.14ctooleykram:  You see that error I posted I'm geting from chan_iax2?
22:58.17QuickDryok I'll try there, I was finding myself getting a little overwhelmed with features....
22:58.31ctooleyQuickDry, there's a intro book there
22:58.42QuickDryit might just be my ADD kicking in though....
22:58.45VirTERMI am having problem with codecs negotiations
22:58.51QuickDrythanks ctooley.
22:59.01QuickDrynight all.
22:59.19ctooleyVirTERM, don't know, we don't use codecs.  we use _a_ codec
22:59.37VirTERMeven with one ; same issue
22:59.48ctooleyplural means decisions, decisions take time, no time for decisions
23:00.01VirTERMhow did you name the fields in the table? is there anything special?
23:00.17ctooleythere's an entry in the Wiki
23:00.29VirTERMyeah, but nothing there
23:00.46VirTERMI have voicemail running no problem..no got stack on iax
23:01.17VirTERMdo you actually have to remove the iax.conf if you use realtime?
23:02.31ctooleyVirTERM, nope
23:02.36VirTERMemrah: this is just a voice prompt asking for 12 digits, try your 8 digit number...
23:02.41ctooleyit's just for users and peers
23:02.51VirTERMok, this is what I've done
23:03.16VirTERMobviously show iax2 peers doesn't show anything
23:03.34ctooleyVirTERM, BTW if you are using the latest CVS HEAD (which if you're using Realtime I highly recommend) it uses iaxpeers and iaxusers and iaxfriends is deprecated
23:03.41ctooleyVirTERM, that is correct
23:03.41VirTERMbut if I try to make a call there is a problem with codec negotiation even if both ends are configured to use only ulaw
23:04.13VirTERMctooley: yes I know, but it's backwards compatible and just gives you a warning
23:04.38VirTERMI am pointing to iaxpeers and iaxusers (one table)
23:04.41ctooleyit is for now.
23:05.02fugitivoanyone using sphinx?
23:06.06VirTERMctooley: so basically you just have [general] statement in your iax.conf?
23:06.17ctooleyVirTERM, yep
23:06.30ctooleyVirTERM, ours are actually defined as friends though.
23:06.31VirTERMwould you mind doing mysqlshow on your iax tables?
23:06.49VirTERMsame here..
23:06.57Dovidi am trying to install zaptel, it is telling me that i need to install all of the kernal source files, which i did. i am still getting an error that i dont have all the kernal source fiels. any suggestions ?
23:07.52VirTERMwhen you specify codec, do you say "ulaw" or 4?
23:08.00fugitivoDovid: ln -s /usr/src/linux-x.x.x /usr/src/linux
23:08.26FuriousGeorgei jsut got incomming calls working the other day.  there is one particular line in extensions.conf where i define the rules for outgoing calls.  i want to give people in this context the ability to dial any number.  i got it working, then i changed the exten=>(number) to exten=>_. (to get any amount of digits, i thought)
23:08.34FuriousGeorgewell that didnt work and now i cant get it working again
23:08.41FuriousGeorgewhats wrong with this extension exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,dial(${OUTGOING}/${EXTEN},30,r)
23:09.00FuriousGeorge*i mean to say LOUTGOING CALLS
23:09.15fugitivoFuriousGeorge: try _1.,dial
23:09.59VirTERM..and don't forget about the priority...
23:10.24FuriousGeorgefugitivo:  nope  client says "404 not found"
23:10.28reallost1grrr... DTMF collection in agi
23:11.06VirTERMexten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,dial(${OUTGOING}/${EXTEN},30,r)
23:11.16FuriousGeorged'oh
23:11.25fugitivoright, the priority :
23:11.25fugitivo)
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23:11.51riquisim0hi
23:12.10VirTERMctooley: I am really confused with this IAX from realtime...
23:12.12fugitivoFuriousGeorge: you can replace the NX with . if you want any amount of digits
23:13.57ctooleyI was too.
23:14.02VirTERMheh
23:14.36ctooleyVirTERM, I'll do a show create table for iax and post it, gimme a minute
23:14.44VirTERMsuper
23:16.04FuriousGeorgefugitivo, thats exactly what i was trying to do, but i deleted the priority too w/o realizing, and i was starting to get so pissed off.  i thought * was defying logic to spite me
23:17.51lesouvageI have this "exten => 8,1,Dial(SIP/202)" as a menu option and the cli  "Executing Dial("Zap/1-1", "SIP/202") in new stack" It's a line out of the manual. What is going wrong?
23:18.11lesouvageThe menu itself works fine, just this line fails.
23:18.58VirTERMwell, is your 202 sip device ringing?
23:19.26VirTERMyou didn't say what's the problem
23:20.11InfraRed1.0.7 released?
23:20.22InfraRedon www.asterisk.org i only see 1.0.6
23:21.00lesouvageIt's the number for listening to the mail. The voicemenu doesn't show up (pleas enter mailbox number etc.)
23:21.01mstoccoInfraRed: it is there
23:21.23VirTERMyou are trying to call the SIP device....
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23:21.43InfraRedhttp://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=download
23:21.51InfraRedthe tgz  is 1.0.6
23:22.07mstoccoInfraRed: ftp://ftp.asterisk.org/pub/asterisk/
23:22.10VirTERMexten => 8,1,VoicemailMain(s${CALLERIDNUM})
23:22.18VirTERMtry this
23:22.20InfraRedyab using the ftp ;)
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23:23.12VirTERMor just like this  exten => 8,1,VoicemailMain
23:23.16mstoccoInfraRed: point your browser there
23:23.59VirTERMyou need to call Voicemail application not a device...
23:24.21InfraRedits ok i got it from the ftp
23:24.28InfraRedi emailed the webmaster about the out of date page
23:24.48TheSinanyone here ever get support from digium?  Just wondering I thought their support was suppose to be great
23:25.44loudthey can troubleshoot anything
23:25.51mstoccoInfraRed: ahh ok I see what you are looking at
23:25.51loudplus they have a nice rma support.
23:26.30bannermananyone have some sample iptables QOS stuff for prioritizing voice?
23:26.45lesouvageVirTerm: thanks it's working now.
23:26.50VirTERM:)
23:26.58lesouvagewith your last suggestion
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23:27.45VirTERMthe first line you could use for people calling from inside (SIP) if you want to avoid need for authentication. It will use their cid to authenticate
23:27.50TheSinloud, does it normally take 3 days though and not one thing to try yet
23:28.05dmccollumiptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -i eth2 -p udp -s <IP ADDRESS of Asterisk server> --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
23:28.24dmccollumiptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -i eth2 -p udp -s <IP ADDRESS of Asterisk server> --dport 5060:5065 -j ACCEPT
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23:28.27VirTERMport 80?!?
23:28.37dmccollumtyped wrong port on first one.
23:28.50ivestihello, does anyone know how to connect a sipura spa-3000 with a dock-n-talk device?
23:28.52dmccollumthen do the same for ports 10000:20000
23:29.04VirTERMthis won't help you unless you run rtp traffic on these ports...
23:29.13VirTERMok, I see now
23:29.15loudTheSin, have you called ?
23:29.23loudor just email
23:29.35dmccollumthen do the same for ports 53 123 and 69
23:30.04VirTERMit will however work very well with iAX (udp 4569)
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23:30.18mw`hi
23:30.22VirTERMbut not in realtime :)
23:30.47ivestihello, does anyone know how to connect a sipura spa-3000 with a dock-n-talk device?
23:30.49TheSinloud, ya but all they do is want ssh access
23:30.49Luhiwuanyone here uses Digium FXO cards? i'm having some problems, it doesn't recognize my dtmf tones
23:30.53TheSindon't even listen
23:30.55mw`anyone experience problems with chan_capi and kernel 2.6.11.x ?
23:31.02riquisim0is there a way to make several Call Groups within 1 Asterisk PBX Server, where each call group has 1 telephone number assigned for use with PSTN, and also internal extension numbers for each call group, but that those call groups aren't authorized to call extension numbers that belong to other call groups?
23:31.02TheSinso then they tell me to email
23:31.09VirTERMrelaxdtmf=yes
23:31.12TheSinand I've done that twice
23:31.47LuhiwuVirTERM, i've already tried that, with no success. If i plug the line to a Cisco's FXO port it works fine, but not in the zap card.
23:32.27VirTERMare you dialing from the cellphone? can you reproduce it everytime?
23:33.18riquisim0like Centrex services
23:33.32VirTERMI am assuming you are talking about incoming calls
23:33.41Luhiwui can reproduce everytime, and i'm using a fixed wireless terminal, i call to a cellphone, not from a cell
23:33.42loudTheSin, well if you can't figure it out, give them access, you can sudo them .. or hire someone here.
23:34.21TheSinloud, that means I need to portforward on my FW
23:34.22VirTERMfixed wireless terminal? how do you register with asterisk? sip?
23:34.32TheSinand they can't login to my system during the day cause it's live
23:34.39TheSinand they close before we do
23:34.43VirTERMwhat's your dtmfmode in sip.conf
23:34.43TheSinso it's just not possible
23:34.53LuhiwuVirTERM, it has a rj11 plug, i've connected it to the fxo card
23:35.13ivestican wnyone help me configure a sipura spa-3000 with a dock-n-talk device?
23:35.14Luhiwuit is analog, none of those gsm voip cards:)
23:35.48VirTERMand then you are going our to PSTN through another card?
23:35.53VirTERMI am lost :)
23:36.14LuhiwuVirTERM: i call from a fixed line to a cell phone connected to the FXO card in my asterisk
23:36.28Luhiwuwhen i play some dtmf tones the * doesn't get them
23:36.31ivestican anyone help me configure a sipura spa-3000 with a dock-n-talk device?
23:37.54VirTERMwhat about if you do not use the FXO card? can you use dtmf while talking to *?
23:38.48VirTERMso, you use zaptel to interface with GSM netowrk?
23:38.56VirTERMcorrect?
23:38.59LuhiwuVirTERM, imagine that the cellphone has a FXS interface on it, i plug that interface into the zaptel FXO card
23:39.13Luhiwui'm not using gsm, just plain analog cellphones and interfaces
23:39.15VirTERMunderstood
23:39.31VirTERMnow, how are you calling it? how do you originate the call?
23:39.56Luhiwufrom a plain old telephone, i do call the cellphone, it rings the zaptel card and i hear the welcome message
23:40.14Luhiwubut then i press some digits and the * doesn't seems to receive them
23:40.34VirTERMnow i got it :)
23:40.48VirTERManalog->gsm->zaptel->asterisk ?
23:41.05LuhiwuanalogFixed->analogCellphone->zaptel->asterisk
23:42.01VirTERMis there anywhere on your cellphone or terminal adapter config to allow/disallow dtmf tones?
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23:42.50VirTERMif you plug analog line into zaptel and call it from an anlog phone, can you use dtmf?
23:42.51Luhiwuno, there isn't. It is just a special cable with some chips that plugs into the startac and gives an rj11 interface, nothing configurable there
23:43.07Luhiwuyes, i can use dtmf.
23:43.34reallost1$digit = $AGI->stream_file('/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/ftfla','89') || die "Couldn't play file $ARGV[1]";
23:43.34reallost1print STDERR  "---Digit Pressed = $digit \n";
23:43.46VirTERMhow about if you call this line from the startec? can you then use dtmf?
23:44.37reallost1anyone doing digit collection from agi?
23:44.58LuhiwuVirTERM, i can't call from the startac, i just can call to the startac and from zaptel to the cellphone network
23:45.17VirTERMI mean analogCell->analogFixed->zaptel->asterisk
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23:46.00LuhiwuVirTERM, i can't do that test right now, but i've called digitalCell->analogFixed->zaptel->asterisk without problems
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23:46.12Luhiwui'll try to do that later tonight
23:46.37VirTERMI am not sure how the dtmf tones are passed on the analog cell network, but it must be very unreliable....
23:47.08Luhiwuthey should be passed inband, i've used it many times to do phonebanking...
23:47.19meanphilDoes anyone here succesfully use Asterisk+Festival? Whenever I try to use it, Asterisk just starts chewing 100% cpu
23:47.40meanphilit never says anything and I have to kill -9 asterisk
23:47.44meanphilcan't figure out what's wrong with it
23:47.47VirTERMI would suggest to play with levels
23:48.01VirTERMincrease the levels on zapata (I mean sensitivity)
23:48.27RomanTorresmeanphil: check on modules.conf you don't load chan_oss.so : unload=chan_oss.so
23:48.53meanphilI have, noload => chan_oss.so
23:48.56meanphiland the same for alsa
23:49.10meanphilis that the same?
23:50.11RomanTorresmeanphil: yes, other than that , is your asterisk system taking 100% of the load all the time , or only when you convert text with festival?
23:50.38meanphilonly when I use festival
23:50.49meanphilwhether it's from extensions.conf, or from an AGI script
23:51.19RomanTorresmeanphil: check this: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-March/040819.html
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23:52.04meanphilok thanks RomanTorres
23:52.09meanphilI'll try the CVS version
23:53.31RomanTorresmeanphil: ok, good luck
23:54.42LuhiwuVirTERM, thanks for your suggestion
23:55.57emrahAnyone have experience with astc here, please?
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