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00:00.33KalD|WorkChrisRouse, brb.  Are you using skinny or h323?
00:00.56ChrisRouseKald: skinny
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00:01.04km-tzanger: echocancel=32 had no effect
00:01.20km-is it possible I need it on the CO t1
00:01.25km-as opposed to the pbx t1?
00:01.42tzangerkm-: yeah try that -- set it to 'no' on the pbx T1 then
00:01.58tzangerI've found if you have multiple echo cans they can fight and end up not doing anything good at all
00:02.37bjohnsonwhen I run safe_asterisk it shows in a coloured terminal and saves codes (I suspect ansi colour codes) into my logs .. making them harder to read.  Is there a way to turn them off?
00:02.58km-still no effect
00:03.05tzangerok try bumping it up to 64
00:03.07tzangerand restart
00:03.07km-hehe, my wife is getting annoyed with me calling her
00:03.11tzanger:-)
00:03.23km-what would setting it to 128 do?
00:03.28tzangerthat's part of the problem of deployments, you generally need a willing soul or a good far-end app
00:03.30tessier_km-: Tell her she's lucky to have a phone in the kitchen at all
00:03.34tzangeryou just increase the taps
00:03.36tzangertessier_: HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
00:03.49km-tessier: Hahahah, that's wrong
00:03.52tzangerkm-: lower # of taps means faster settling but not able to handle more delayed echo
00:04.14tessier_I kill me. ;)
00:04.37km-tzanger: I'm going to try 128 and work my way down, because, if it's 128 and still echos, it means it's not going to get better through the echocancel setting, right?
00:04.50mikegrbbjohnson: just use cat to display the logs and they won't be hard to display, they will be colored
00:04.52tzangerno that's not necessarily right
00:04.56km-tzanger: ok
00:04.57tzangerand you can use 256 too but that's insane
00:05.07tzangerbasicall you have to try each one and see how it's affect works
00:05.11km-the weird part is
00:05.14mikegrbbjohnson: or give less the option to preserve the ansi codes and it will display in color in less
00:05.15km-I tried calling my cell phone
00:05.17km-and there was no echo
00:05.21tzangerand then if that fails, try the same on the pbx side (turning it off on the telco side)
00:05.31tzangerkm-: cell carriers all have VERY good echo cancellation
00:06.10harryvvbjohnson just to let you know for some reason it did authenticate on its own when I was googling the problem. It works now with just a minor codec bridge problem.
00:06.26km-I'll call my mom instead
00:06.28km-heh
00:06.30tzanger:-)
00:06.37harryvvkm, no echo is a bit suprising.
00:06.47tzangershe'll be happy to hear from such a nice boy... at least until she realizes it's to test something
00:06.51tzangerinstead of to talk to her
00:07.26hcclNoodlesTzanger I have just found out that British Telecom do not allow the "battery drop or battery reversal " apparantly a number of us in the UK have requested this to no avail.
00:07.44tzangerhcclNoodles: hmm
00:08.03hcclNoodleswe just get the hang up tone
00:08.04tzangerso all british PBXes that use analogue trunks use inband detection?
00:08.05tzangernasty
00:08.18harryvvbtw, I will be looking for a more then your average UPS for my servers and need a external battery terminals on it. Would like to hook up my 125 amp/h battery to it. Anyone know.
00:08.23tzangerhcclNoodles: you can put a feature request or bounty in to get the british tone detected
00:08.28tzangerbut I'd be surprised if it's not already there
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00:08.33tzangeryou've set your zone to uk?
00:08.43tzangeri.e. the call progress tones all sound "normal" to you?
00:08.49hcclNoodlesyes zone is uk
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00:09.14hcclNoodlesthere is a community of over 50 users on uk mailing lists all with the same issue
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00:09.28harryvvwhat issue
00:09.30km-tzanger: echocancel=yes has done it
00:09.33km-tzanger: echo all gone
00:09.38bjohnsonmikegrb: I've gotten used to using editors for troubelshooting log file to make use of forward/backward action, selection highlighting, and text find
00:09.39tzangerso that's 128 then
00:09.40rvhiwould latency affect echo cancellation?
00:09.46tzangerif you change echocancel to 128 it will be the same
00:09.51tzangerrvhi: yes
00:09.59mikegrbbjohnson: good idea
00:10.07rvhii have 128, works fine within the city
00:10.07tzangerour PRI has echo only on certain calls
00:10.25tzangerit all has to do with the delay in the loop to the far end, where your voice is bouncing off their hybrid
00:10.28rvhisomeone has a pap2 after 5k miles away, it is very bad
00:10.31hcclNoodlesTDM400P not detecting UK hangup signal
00:10.34mikegrbbjohnson: try "TERM=vt100 safe_asterisk" or some such  for startup
00:10.40rvhichoppy sound, not echo though
00:10.41Groobygrrrrr
00:10.45tzangeryou have 5000 miles of copper?
00:10.55harryvvtzanger are you a end user supplier of voip
00:10.59Groobycodec_speex.so is having trouble loading libspeex.so.1
00:11.04Groobyanyone having this problems before?
00:11.04rvhipap2 on the internet
00:11.08tzangerjust to local busineses and stuff
00:11.18rvhii wish i had that much copper... :)
00:11.21harryvvokay what ups do you use and been happy with it
00:11.27tzangerrvhi: the echo cancellation on the pap2 should handle it
00:11.35tzangerI like APC upses
00:11.56rvhiwhen they call pstn number, pstn side hears choppy sound
00:11.56tzangerwe have some rackmount 3kW ones I'm not keen on
00:12.05rvhipap2 side is very clear
00:12.07tzangerthey're nice enough but they don't turn back on after fully depleted
00:12.17tzangerrvhi: that means your packets are arriving in poor form
00:12.21tzangerhigh jitter
00:12.22rvhii think that is echocancellation overdone
00:12.24harryvvdo thay have a external 12 volt hookup ? I have a 125 amp hour battery thats on a constant 12 volt trickel charger and would like to attach it to a existing ups.
00:12.34tzangerrvhi: nope, not unless pap2 is very strange
00:12.44tzangerharryvv: some do, yes
00:12.56rvhiif the pstn side is digital phone, no problem
00:12.59tzangerharryvv: you have to be careful about two charging inputs
00:13.06tzangerrvhi: huh?
00:13.25GodThoris anyone install h323 on fedora3 (asterisk from CVS)?
00:13.30harryvvI know. thats for the battery right now. if its on a ups no sence in having the trickel charger on it.
00:13.33rvhiif pstn side uses a digital phone, e.g. a pbx system with pri connection
00:13.40tzangerrvhi: you --- [ internet, 5000 mile distance ] --- pap2 --- PSTN ??
00:13.44rvhibut to analog home phone, is it choppy
00:13.53harryvvtzanger know which models might have one.
00:13.54tzangerhow are you connecting a PAP2 to a PRI?
00:14.02tzangerharryvv: not offhand, but APC's site is (was) pretty good
00:14.39harryvvokay yea been looking at it
00:14.39dstevens_Managed to compile Asterix on EPIA 5000 using Ubuntu without to much pain,  make samples; make progdocs;  having trouble command# sudo asterisk -vvvc  returns "Illegal instruction"
00:14.42rvhiphone A -- pap2 --------------------- asterisk -- T1 PRI -- pstn
00:14.43Himekotzanger you can set how much they recharge till they come back on
00:14.55bjohnsonI keep getting:
00:14.57bjohnsonAsterisk died with code 1.
00:14.57bjohnsonAutomatically restarting Asterisk.
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00:15.24rvhipstn ----- phone B
00:15.42rvhiif phone B is a home analog phone, or cell phone, sound quality is bad
00:15.54tzangerbjohnson: don't use safe_asterisk
00:15.57km-Feb 23 19:15:45 NOTICE[16876]: app_dial.c:927 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'IAX2' (cause 3)
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00:15.59km-hrmm
00:15.59tzangerlet it die and see if you can get better stats
00:16.05rvhiif phone B is an office digital phone connecting a pbx, that's fine
00:16.09tzangerrvhi: oh
00:16.17rvhipbx connects to pstn via pri
00:16.19tzangerrvhi: that is interesting
00:16.27tzangerrvhi: I don't have an answer to that one
00:16.46tzangerrvhi: test your theory -- disable echo cancellation altogether on the pap2
00:16.47rvhioffice phone is fine, because it is probably no digital/analog conversion, so no echo
00:17.19tzangerrvhi: it has nothing to do with digital/analog conversion, it has everything ot do with the hybrid circuit
00:18.01rvhicould choppy sound be overdone echo cancellation?
00:18.08rvhii don't really get an echo in this case
00:18.23tzangerrvhi: i've not heard of that before, but disable the echo can altogether to try it
00:18.48rvhii think i tried once to disable echo can
00:18.50rvhiit works
00:19.11rvhibut for users within 50 miles, i have to enable it
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00:20.22km-Feb 23 19:20:03 NOTICE[17037]: app_dial.c:927 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'IAX2' (cause 3)
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00:20.37km-oh shitballs.
00:20.43km-I know what the problem is
00:21.06buddahpri full?
00:21.12tzangerkm-: congestion
00:21.20|Vulture|anyone have a remote directory setup for the IP500?
00:21.20tzangerlook up cause 3 in causes.h
00:21.46rvhiwhat is remote directory?
00:21.51km-tzanger: I had the wrong ip address on the remote side
00:21.52km-hehee
00:21.57km-I'm calling my buddy's office
00:22.35|Vulture|rvhi: a directory stored on a central web server
00:23.24rvhii only know you can put it in directory.xml file and load it to the phone
00:23.44rvhior you can use IP600 with a microbrowser to browse the web server
00:23.48km-hahaha
00:23.49rvhibut not on IP500
00:23.50km-that is so rocking
00:24.34tzangerkm-: put the last 3 patches from bug 2532 in
00:24.35tzangerI'm telling you
00:24.40tzangeryou won't regret it
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00:24.47tzangerso long as you're not using g729
00:25.19km-tzanger: jitter buffer!
00:25.23km-tzanger: does it make it work better?
00:25.35|Vulture|ah I thought you could in the IP500
00:25.46|Vulture|oh well
00:25.54Poincaredamned, this is an addictive hobby
00:26.10tzangerkm-: it does
00:26.12tzangerit's amazing
00:26.24tzangerstevekstevek has created one AMAZING new jitter buffer
00:26.43km-hehe
00:27.21km-I havent ever had experience with jitter
00:27.34km-hmm
00:27.37km-wait a sec
00:27.48km-what's the command to initiate a transfer?
00:27.58km-if you dont have a transfer button
00:28.04Poincare#
00:28.10km-I think I just figured out how to make transfer work on the legacy pbx
00:30.16dstevens_<PROTECTED>
00:30.20|Vulture|Anyone know of a Firwall/Router for ~$500 that has an WAN port failover feature?
00:30.48|Vulture|dstevens_: post your error on pastebin.ca
00:31.11km-thats weird
00:31.16km-I hit pound
00:31.20km-and all I heard was ringing
00:31.25km-I couldn't transfer
00:31.26Poincaredstevens_: any indications with asterisk -vvvc?
00:31.29Bentleyhi all, I think i once saw a thread about a special priority that gets executed b4 priority 1.  Anyone know of such a thing?
00:31.37km-tzanger: I thought for sure that would have worked
00:31.44ChrisRouseAnyone else have experience with Cisco Call Manager and Asterisk?
00:33.20dstevens_Poincare, If i run the command as -vvvc it return Illegal Error, If run with -vvv Then some text flows by is this what you mean.
00:33.57Poincaredstevens_: in that text that flows by might be an indication about what is going wrong...
00:34.51|Vulture|Anyone here have experiences with Megapath or Xspedius T1-Data?
00:34.56*** join/#asterisk convey (~test@208-216-127-234.cust.gti.net)
00:35.54conveyanyone have problems applying the broadvoice patch?
00:35.59cbachmandstevens_ what processor are you running on?
00:36.03Groobyconvey, don't use the patch
00:36.12Grooby1.0.5 should have the patch in it
00:36.21conveyok
00:36.25conveycool thanks
00:36.30Groobyyou following the doc from bv?
00:36.33Groobyon asterisk howto?
00:36.57conveynot me
00:37.12conveyI was reading the broadvoice support pager
00:37.23tzangerkm-: did you use T in the Dial()
00:37.30km-YES!!!!
00:37.30Groobyok
00:37.31km-WOOT
00:37.34km-# transfer works
00:37.38Groobyhehehehe
00:37.39km-at least incoming direction
00:37.44dstevens_processor model name VIA Samuel  mobo EPIA 5000
00:37.48ChrisRouseg
00:37.57Groobyso anyone got their speex codec to work?!?!
00:38.02km-tzanger: I can hit #499 to transfer the call from my nec phone to my x-lite phone when I dial in from my celly
00:38.03dstevens_VIA Samuel 2 sorry
00:38.16km-tzanger: however, get this
00:38.35|Vulture|convey: tat info is outdated, check the wiki
00:39.34tzangerkm-: well yeah, since * si seeing it
00:39.36cbachmandstevens_ your issue is the via chip.  It's not completely compatible so you need to adjust a flag
00:39.39tzangeronce it's in the NEC though I doubt you can get it out
00:39.41km-<PROTECTED>
00:39.45km-What is wrong with this dial line?
00:39.57km-When I dial
00:40.07km-I answer my cell (4849191400) but Asterisk doesnt detect the pickup
00:40.17km-if I remove the ,60,Ttr, Asterisk detects the pickup
00:40.19tzangerkm-: it doesn't detect the pickup??
00:40.23km-yeah
00:40.23tzangerfirst off, don't use 'r'
00:40.26km-its the weirdest thing
00:40.42dstevens_cbachman, flag ahh how do i change my flag.
00:40.45tzangerand I wouldn't use 't' either, since someone could hit '#' and get access to your phone system
00:40.49tzangerat least the extensions part
00:41.14km-<PROTECTED>
00:41.16km-ok
00:41.18km-I'll try again now
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00:42.25TheAxHi I just finished installing * from the latest CVS head and now it won't run anymore..  it givesd the following error
00:42.26TheAxasterisk: relocation error: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_config_mysql.so: undefined symbol: ast_cust_config_register
00:42.41TheAxany ideas y?
00:42.46tzangerTheAx: rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules and reinstall
00:42.47TheAxI am on a RH9 system
00:42.58tzangeryou likely have old modules around that are confusing * when it tries to load
00:43.05km-weird
00:43.15km-it doesnt even work if I do it with the legacy pbx originating
00:43.24km-even if I do Tt
00:43.28TheAxOK..  thnaks tzanger..
00:43.29km-but the answer is detected now
00:43.33cbachmandstevens_  google for i586 asterisk via  You'll find that there are a number of references to this issue
00:43.34km-I guess the 'r' had something to do with it
00:44.59cbachmandstevens_ in particular: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Compile
00:46.08terrapenbadass full moon out right now
00:46.11terrapenowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwllll
00:46.30tzangeryeah my kids are squirrely
00:46.41dstevens_cbachman, Thanks for your help i will readup and recompile, and be back.
00:46.44terrapenmy dog is lazy
00:47.20terrapenhow do i dial up this dev conference?
00:47.31terrapeni see the /topic
00:47.53terrapendo i have to add an extension for it?
00:48.27ChrisRouseHow do I associate an extension with an Agent?
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00:49.15km-tzanger: so, I'm chatting on the phone, and, 60 seconds later, the phone disconnects
00:49.27km-tzanger: which leads me to realize -- Asterisk doesn't know when the call is connected.
00:49.37TheAxit is still the same...
00:49.39ChrisRouseRather, when logging into Asterisk as an agent and dial an extension Asterisk tells me that the extension is not valid. Where is it getting that information?
00:49.39TheAx== Parsing '/etc/asterisk/musiconhold.conf': Found
00:49.46TheAxWarning, flexibel rate not heavily tested!
00:50.15TheAx[cdr_addon_mysql.so][root@PBX asterisk]# Junk at the beginning 49443303
00:50.28TheAxand keeps giving "Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested!"
00:50.32km-tzanger: is there some way I can tweak this thing a bit more so that it's a bit more intelligent about when the line's picked up?
00:51.07TheAxi removed the modules dir and recompiled asterisk, zaptel and libpri
00:51.35TheAxand it is still the same..  has anyone tried installing asterisk in the past hour or so?
00:52.10TheAxmaybe something in the CVS head is mixed up?!  Because I had a working version of it running and as soon as i downloaded the new CVS head and compiled it, this happend
00:52.47|Vulture|anyone here ever get a PRI with multiple LATA?
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00:53.20*** join/#asterisk goldenoldies (~goldenold@65.171.196.23)
00:53.24goldenoldieshi all
00:53.40goldenoldiesanyone have any experience programming the speed dial buttons on the Cisco phones via TFTP? I cannot figure out what to modify in the XML File
00:54.02*** part/#asterisk redder86 (~lee@gateway.howardsilvan.com)
00:54.12shmaltzanybody using polycom phones?
00:54.15*** part/#asterisk Grooby (~Grooby@12.22.232.212)
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00:54.26buddahyes
00:54.31buddahip 500s
00:54.35|Vulture|yup
00:55.14shmaltzbuddah, how do you have the lines configured? one sip or multiple sips? and did you disable call waiting? and if you did how?
00:55.19JerJerOT:  anyone know how to port forward using iptables without knowing the WAN ip address?
00:55.20buddahone
00:55.29buddahand i never looked at the call waiting actually
00:55.32buddahwait
00:55.33buddahhmm
00:55.37buddahits active
00:55.47shmaltz|Vulture|, I believe xo offers this
00:56.12tzangerkm-: what do you mean
00:56.13buddahyou can probably turn it off via the phones .cfg
00:56.16|Vulture|shmaltz: thank you
00:56.18shmaltzbuddah, whats the point of using one if the call doens't roll over?
00:56.24tzangerkm-: yes it doesn't know it's connected
00:56.33buddahhell if i know, i just set em up for clients
00:56.37shmaltz|Vulture|, np, anytime
00:56.41buddahthey give me a list, i make sure the stuff works
00:56.59shmaltz:)
00:57.01buddahbut i think most of them dont do call waiting, they just go to voice mail
00:57.03tzangerunless you see "... has answered Zap/whatever"
00:57.13shmaltzbuddah, how?
00:57.19buddahsec and ill show you
00:58.09shido6boink
00:58.26goldenoldiessomeone must know how to program these goddamn Cisco phones remotely when running SIP or MGCP
00:58.43goldenoldiesI am likely to send one to someone who can help me with this
00:58.51terrapenuhhh
00:58.54terrapenprogram them like how
00:58.55km-tzanger: is there a way to make asterisk more sensitive to whether the line is picked up?
00:59.03km-tzanger: is that that whole call supervision thing people have talked about
00:59.17tzangerkm-: why is it not seeing the line picked up
00:59.20terrapenalmost everything about them can/is set up from the TFTP files
00:59.25km-tzanger: no idea
00:59.40km-lemme try originating the call through sip
00:59.42tzangerkm-: do you have to futz with the E&M timings
00:59.46goldenoldiesThe 7960 has 6 line/speed dial buttons... I want the phone to download via TFTP/FTP new button configs when the phones boot... I cannot find the option in the two .cnf files or the card.xml file.
00:59.47tzangeron teh telco side
00:59.59tzangeri.e. asterisk is looking for too long a wink or something
01:00.01terrapengolden, its in the config files
01:00.07goldenoldieswhich config file where
01:00.10goldenoldiesI have the sample files
01:00.12terrapenhang on
01:00.13km-tzanger: I'm not sure
01:00.16goldenoldiesthank you
01:00.25km-tzanger: it appears that originating the call from SIP doesn't change the fact that it cant find the connect
01:00.31shmaltzanybody know how to get the polycom to NOT pickup the second incoming call on the first line appearance, but on the second? (on the cisco, I disable the callwaiting, then I register all line appearances with the same sip account).
01:00.33km-tzanger: so maybe there does need to be some fiddling
01:00.33tzangerkm-: you've eliminated all your other timing mods, right?
01:00.39km-tzanger: yes, I have
01:00.41tzangerkm-: huh?
01:00.48terrapenSIPxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.cnf
01:00.51tzangerkm-: ok
01:00.53terrapenwhere xxxx is the phones mac addy
01:00.57km-tzanger: I was wondering if the problem was coming from the legacy pbx of from the co line
01:00.59tzangerkm-: try placing a call from the NEC out
01:01.01terrapenSIP00082194D85A.cnf
01:01.01tzangerdoes it work?
01:01.03goldenoldiesk but what option do you specify in the file
01:01.03km-tzanger: the problem occurs in both places
01:01.05terrapenthats mine
01:01.05tzangeror does it cut off after 60s too
01:01.13terrapengolden, i swear its in the sample configs....
01:01.18km-tzanger: the call succeeds but asterisk doesnt know it succeeds
01:01.26km-tzanger: all of them cut off after 60 seconds
01:01.30tzangerkm-: ok so it looks like a more global problem
01:01.30goldenoldiesI am staring at the sample configs man, I see MGCP gateway and everything, I do not see the button configs though
01:01.33goldenoldiesnothing about the buttons
01:01.34tzangergeneric wink settings are incorrect
01:01.40terrapenlook for one that has lines like  hits:
01:01.41tzangerkm-: you can't ask the telco what their wink timings are can you?
01:01.48terrapenline2_name: "202"
01:01.50km-tzanger: I dunno if they'd know it
01:01.53tzangerkm-: you can use zttool to see it too and try to estimate it
01:01.57terrapenline2_displayname: "Chris Snell x202"
01:02.04terrapenobviously with different values :P
01:02.13goldenoldiesyou the man, hopefully this works with mgcp!
01:02.27terrapenmgcp?
01:02.29goldenoldiesmessage me your address, I'll send you a phone if this works, will know in 2 seconds
01:02.33terrapenthis is sip, bruddah
01:02.58TheAxwhat does it mean when * says: Junk at the beginning 49443303
01:03.09TheAxor "Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested!"
01:03.30TheAxeven when i compile the old version it still won't run
01:03.38TheAxand this was a working box
01:03.48TheAxall i did was download the new cvs head and compile it
01:04.05tzangerTheAx: that's the thing with CVS HEAD
01:04.05km-tzanger: get this, from the time the call is placed until the time I hang up my side, I never see the status on RxABCD go to '1'
01:04.10tzangerit changes all the time
01:04.18km-tzanger: there's a quick "wink" when I first pick up the line
01:04.23tzangerTheAx: before you get too far, make a copy of your /etc/asterisk and /etc/zaptel.conf
01:04.31TheAxwhatever it has done, it is preventing me from even using my original version that i had running b4
01:04.31cbachmanjerjer:  Some reading I did seemed to hint that you could leave off the -d and specify the interface alone?
01:04.38km-tzanger: but the status doesnt change from that point on, through call accepted, to hangup
01:04.46tzangerTheAx: I find that hard to believe
01:04.49km-tzanger: the hangup isn't detected either, I have to hang up myself
01:04.59tzangerTheAx: you didn't completely erase the old (new) asterisk then
01:05.02TheAxtzanger> me 2
01:05.05tzangeror you played with your config files without backing them up
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01:05.26tzangerkm-: are you sure you're supposed to use e&M wink?
01:05.37TheAxi didn't earse the old (new) * , i just compiled the old one again
01:05.56km-tzanger: if I just set it to em, weird things happen
01:06.02km-tzanger: i'll try it again for the hell of it though
01:07.22tzangerhmm
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01:07.44SirPrizeis there a way to send SMS messages via SIP, in the UK?
01:07.48km-tzanger: switching to em causes no change on the CO T1 side
01:07.59km-tzanger: changing from em_w to em on the pbx side causes the pbx to act funky
01:08.22terrapenwhy not just send it by email?
01:08.47terrapenmost celly providers have gateways
01:08.47tzangerkm-:
01:08.47tzangerso your AB bits are 00 normally
01:08.47tzangerthe telco places a call to you
01:08.47SirPrizemine charges money for that. :-S
01:08.49tzangerit sets 11
01:08.55km-tzanger: yep
01:08.56tzangeryou send back 010
01:09.02km-uhm
01:09.03km-heh
01:09.05km-I dunno
01:09.06SirPrize:-)
01:09.10tzangerwell watch it :-)
01:09.12km-is there a way to packet trace the signal?
01:09.13tzangerI'd imagine so
01:09.15km-it happen sso fast
01:09.18tzangerkm-: not that I'm aware of
01:09.20km-lemme try it again
01:09.22tzangeryou can uncomment some dbeugs
01:09.36km-ok
01:09.40km-I bring up zttool on the CO T1
01:09.47tzangerkm-: in zt_rbs_sethook
01:09.50tzangerin zaptel.c
01:10.03km-the first 11 lines are TxABCD 0, RxABCD 1, because I have data on those lines and I dont have them configured in the pbx
01:10.10km-so, the call would come out line 12
01:10.25km-tx 1 rx goes 101
01:10.29km-then stays 0
01:10.33TheAxno
01:10.41TheAxoops
01:10.42tzangereither uncomment CONFIG_ZAPATA_DEBUG or make it so JUST that line (~1885) is printed
01:10.43km-from that point
01:10.46tzangerand recompile and reload the modules
01:11.20TheAxtzanger> should i delete the current none-working installation of * and trying compiling it again?
01:11.32tzangerTheAx: I don't know your exact situation
01:11.50tzangerTheAx: what exactly is it doing now that you've reverted?
01:11.53km-ok
01:11.57km-remaking zaptel module
01:12.14TheAxthe same thing..  it won't run and will give those warning messages
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01:12.47tzangerdid you run make samples when you updated CVS HEAD too? (don't do it)
01:12.50terrapenthis really is the best music on hold evar
01:13.00km-no
01:13.02terrapenespecially if you have seen the movie
01:13.03km-I did not run make samples
01:13.10tzangerno not you km, theax
01:13.13km-brb bio break
01:13.28TheAxtzanger> no..  id didn't make the samples
01:13.31tzangerok good
01:13.40tzangerpastebin the errors please?
01:13.45TheAxi also backed them up as u recommended
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01:15.00TheAxtzanger> http://www.pastebin.com/245668
01:15.27TheAxthis is with my old backup compiled
01:15.38TheAxwhich gives the exact same eroor as the new cvs head
01:16.11tzangerTheAx: I don't think it has anything to do with mysql
01:16.15tzangermusic on hold, maybe
01:16.32|Vulture|yea sounds like moh, try dissabling it
01:16.37terrapeni want to make a Music on Hold Favorites wiki page
01:16.46tzangerterrapen: :-)
01:16.48terrapenwhere people can post their favorite ideas for MoH
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01:17.08km-notifying reader data in block 0
01:17.09km-hmm
01:17.14km-its spamming across the screen
01:17.25TheAxbut moh was working 4
01:17.25km-ok, time to only get the one we want
01:17.27TheAxb4
01:17.30tzangerkm-: that's why I said you might want to just make that one line print
01:17.35tzanger:-)
01:17.52terrapentz: what do you use?
01:18.01km-remaking now :)
01:19.09NukemizerCan I delay the prompt for  "Meetme" ? when Ii call a conference room I get the first part of the intro chopped off..
01:19.25ranlivhello guys! can anyone help me with my problem.   I keep getting this error " WARNING[4293]: chan_iax2.c:2189 create_addr: No such host:"
01:19.58ranlivbut from the linux console I can ping ng domain name
01:20.19ranlivalso tried defining at /etc/hosts but still the same problem
01:20.22TrionnisNukemizer: re-record it with a short pause at the beginning
01:20.25Trionnis;)
01:20.41tzangerkm-:
01:20.43tzangerhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk653/technologies_tech_note09186a00801123bb.shtml
01:20.47Nukemizerthat works ! thanks
01:20.49tzangerE&M signaling is way too straightforward
01:20.51tzangeronly two states
01:21.04marc_chow many mins can you on average term on a T1?
01:21.10tzangerone million
01:21.20marc_cno. thats full capacity!
01:21.22tzangerit's just shy of that (983000 or something)
01:21.32Trionniswelcome :)
01:21.35tzangeraverage term depends ENTIRELY on your usage patterns
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01:22.18km-ok tzanger
01:22.26TheAxDamn..
01:22.38marc_c~200k?
01:22.59TheAxI don't know what the hell the new cvs head has done but * is refusing to load..  maybe I should delete the whole thing and reinstall...
01:23.03km-tzanger: I set bits to 15, state 2 in 64 signalling at first, then set 15, state 1 in 64, then set 15,state 1 in 64, then, there are no more bits set until I hang up the phone
01:23.13km-tzanger: the answer doesnt get detected, remote hangup doesnt get detected
01:23.26TheAxi even deleted my modukes dir and installed * again
01:23.31tzangerkm-: well it's all 1111 that's why
01:23.48tzangerTheAx: try just noloading res_moh or whatever it's called
01:24.07tzangeryou shouldn't be setting the bits to state 2
01:24.07km-tzanger: ok, I'll accept that you know way more about this than I do -- any ideas how I fix that?
01:24.18tzangeroffhand no, I am not sure why it's doing that
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01:25.39km-quite curious, huh
01:25.50km-damn telephony
01:25.51km-hehe
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01:27.13tzangerkm-: stop asterisk
01:27.17tzangerdmesg -c
01:27.20tzangerand run ztcfg
01:27.23tzangerwhat's dmesg say
01:27.26tzangeranything interesting
01:27.40TheAxsorry how do i avoid * from loading res_moh?
01:28.21km-tzanger: nope, just that it's setting bits to 0 for channel te4/0/2/1-24 state 0 in 64 signalling
01:28.32km-tzanger: which I imagine means its idle?
01:28.43tzangerok good
01:28.54tzangernow when you start asterisk and it stabilizes, what does it say
01:29.54km-same thing
01:29.54km-setting bits to 0 for channel te4/0/2/24 state 0 in 64 signalling
01:29.54tzangerok good
01:29.56tzangernow pick up a line but don't dial anything
01:30.13tzanger(or rahter dial enough to get * to say "starting simple switch)
01:30.16km-on the CO side or PBX side?  I cant pick up a line on the CO side without dialing
01:30.29km-unless I hack an extension that does Zap/g1
01:30.30tzangerPBX side
01:30.49km-ok, pbx side says settings bits to 0 first
01:30.51km-then 15/1
01:30.52km-then 0/0
01:30.59km-hanging up sets 0/0
01:31.09tzangerok
01:31.17km-want me to hack that extension on CO side?
01:31.18tzangernow dial a #
01:31.20tzangerno
01:31.23km-ok
01:31.38km-no change
01:31.57tzangerhmm
01:32.00km-<PROTECTED>
01:32.00km-<PROTECTED>
01:32.00km-<PROTECTED>
01:32.00km-<PROTECTED>
01:32.09tzangerright
01:32.42tzangerbut you should have seen the bits go  from 0 to 15, then back to 0 after YOU hang up
01:32.53Trionnislmao
01:33.06Trionnismy 4 year old just walked up here and said "hey dad....why do I have a crack in my butt?"
01:33.11Trionnis=|
01:33.13km-HAHAHA
01:33.19tzangerhahahaha
01:33.26km-tzanger: I just tried calling from my cellphoen to the asterisk box, and the states went
01:33.27TrionnisI'm still laughing so hard I can't think of an answer
01:33.28Trionnislol
01:33.28tzangermy 5yo daughter asked me how to screw yesterday
01:33.33Trionnis=O
01:33.37km-0/0 then 15/1 then 0/0 then 15/1 then 15/1 then 0/0
01:33.43tzanger(we were putting together a fluorescent light and I told her to screw down the one piece of metal)
01:33.48TrionnisOOHHH
01:33.50Trionnis...
01:33.57km-hahaha
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01:34.15tzangerkm-: what is the number after the /
01:34.15tzangerhello jim
01:34.18tzangerlong time
01:34.20km-the state
01:34.22tzangerI owe you an email or two
01:34.23tzangerok
01:34.29km-the first number is the bits, second is the state
01:34.30tzangerso state 0 -> 1 -> 0 -> 1 -> 1 -> 0
01:34.43km-right, on an incoming call from my cellphone to asterisk
01:34.45JimVanMtzanger: howdydoo
01:34.49tzangerkm-: no no no no no
01:34.53tzangerwell fuck it
01:34.58tzangerlet's do tleco side first them
01:34.59tzangerer then
01:35.10km-I dont have a problem with the pbx side really
01:35.11tzangerso basically you see the wink
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01:35.19km-if I call from the pbx to the soft phone, it detects the answer
01:35.21tzangerkm-: you just said you aren't able to sustain a call from either way
01:35.33jaydentzanger!!!!
01:35.40km-I can't sustain a call from either endpoint out to the CO
01:35.42Trionnisspa-2000 for 65USD including shipping a decent deal?
01:35.48km-I can sustain a call between the two endpoints on the system fine
01:35.56Trionnisrefurb, btw
01:36.02tzangerkm-: ah
01:36.08tzangerJimVanM: I'm pissed at you
01:36.16tzangerJimVanM: you didn't tell me I could light MWI from an ATA
01:36.33tzangerkm-: hmm ok
01:36.41JimVanMtzanger: there's a whole lot I haven't told you, young grasshopper
01:36.45km-tzanger: ok, for the purposes of the rollout, I can at least remove the 60 second timeout and let it act like how it is
01:36.46tzangerJimVanM: hahaha
01:36.54tzangerkm-: kind of
01:37.11tzangerkm-: I am not going to be surprised if there are other problems, like the telco cutting you off since it didn't complete
01:37.16tzangerkm-: but let's get back to work
01:37.24tzangerso you call * from the cell
01:37.31tzanger* is obviously winking
01:37.43tzangerand then obviously going offhook
01:37.44JimVanMtzanger: I have a box full of Norstar swag here, just waiting for a mad scientist to perform cruel experiments upon it
01:37.46tzangerand obviosusly going back
01:38.10tzangerJimVanM: yes I have to email you back and let you know that yes I want to get together and perform curel experiments on our MICS
01:38.32tzangerJimVanM: know anything about NEC Electra Elite 48s?
01:38.46jaydenuhhhhh, you guys might wanna take this conversation private
01:38.48jayden:)
01:38.55tzangerkm-: If you call your SIP phone from your cell phone does it work?
01:39.08JimVanMtzanger: no, but the thought of torturing Nortel gear gets me all weepy
01:39.09km-lemme try
01:39.16tzangerhahaha
01:39.27JimVanMjayden: don't worry, we'll post pictures!
01:39.55km-tzanger: yep, works fine, answer is detected
01:39.59tzangerok
01:40.08tzangernow call your PBX from your SIP phone
01:40.09km-states for the call were 0,1,0,1,1,0
01:40.17km-ok, just a sec
01:40.22tzangerkm-: exactly, wink, offhook, onhook
01:40.55km-states were 2,1,1,0
01:41.11km-lemme do it again
01:41.14tzangerstate 2?
01:41.16km-just to be sure
01:41.32tzangeroffhook, onhook, ring, kewl
01:41.33km-yes
01:41.35tzangerso yeah makes sense
01:41.37km-2,1,1,0
01:41.47tzangerwhat are teh bits for state 2
01:41.51km-answer is detected, everything fine
01:41.55km-bits were 15 for state 2
01:41.57tzangeroh okay
01:42.01tzangerbut no wink
01:42.01km-and 15 for the state 1's
01:42.08tzangerinteresting
01:42.13tzangeroh wait
01:42.15tzangerI'm dumb
01:42.16km-the state 0 was 0/0
01:42.23tzanger* doesn't wink for outgoing, the receiver winks
01:42.28tzangerand we're not debugging rbs incoming
01:42.32tzangerok
01:42.38tzangerso the problem is not with the co
01:42.42tzangeror with the pbx
01:42.45tzangerbut rather with the CO and PBX
01:42.58km-you mean, the CO and asterisk?
01:43.00tzangeri.e. PSTN -> SIP = ok, and SIP -> PBX = ok
01:43.05tzangerno, I mean iwth the CO and PBX :-)
01:43.11tzangercan you call your cell from the SIP?
01:43.18tzangerand can you call your SIP from the PBX?
01:43.22km-I call the IVR, then dial the sip extension
01:43.48km-right
01:43.52TheAxthis is wired now i get:
01:43.54TheAx<PROTECTED>
01:43.55km-PBX->SIP works, SIP->PBX works
01:44.01km-CO->* works
01:44.11TheAxthis is with version 1 stable
01:44.12km-*->CO does not work I dont think, lemme reconfirm that
01:44.17tzangerTheAx: are you using mysql?
01:44.28TheAxi was, yes
01:44.52tzangerdoes /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/cdr_addon_mysql.so exist?
01:45.16km-tzanger: *->CO does not work
01:45.29tzangerkm-: /me wonders if the CO is winking
01:45.31TheAxhrm..  no...
01:45.31km-tzanger: calling cell from SIP does not have any detections occuring
01:45.32tzangerit has to
01:45.43tzangerTheAx: you're trying ot load it and it doesn't exist.  fix that.
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01:45.58TheAxlet me install it again
01:46.05tzangerkm-: what are the bits for SIP -> Cell
01:46.08tzangerer states rather
01:46.13km-just a sec
01:46.20TheAxtzanger..  thanks..  sorry i am juyst out of it today.. t his * problem was the least thing i needed
01:46.20km-clear the screen and try it again to be sure
01:46.22TheAxlol
01:46.29tzangerTheAx: no problem
01:46.52km-tzanger: 15/2 15/1 15/1 0/0
01:46.57km-tzanger: the 0/0 comes when I hang up
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01:47.21usamconcerning x100p via zaptel, is there state that would provide me with "ringing" status? everytime i make call viz x100p, the asterisk always "Answered" the request... Am I right?
01:47.30tzangerkm-: I think I see the problem
01:47.41km-if you tell me that it hates me
01:47.42tzangerkm-: you're treating the telco as if it were a phone
01:47.44km-I'm going to cry
01:47.49tzangeryou're ringing the telco
01:47.53tzangerwhich is wrong
01:47.59km-ok, how do I change that
01:48.01km-hehe
01:48.05tzangerhow do you specify e&m but not fxo signalled?
01:48.09tzangeryou want fxs signaling on the telco side
01:48.15km-lemme see the config samples
01:48.39Inv_arpquik q: i have inbound sip (BV) for my business, if iam on line and some1 else calls can they go thru my menu's in extension.conf also>
01:48.43km-tzanger: do I need sf_w instead of em_w?
01:48.52tzangerno I don't think so
01:48.59tzangerbut it can't hurt to try
01:49.08km-what is sf_w anyway
01:49.37tzangernot what you want really
01:49.47km-yeah, asterisk dies if I set that
01:50.07km-do you think I need to set em and not em_w?
01:50.09tzangertry setting zaptel.conf to fxsks and zapata.conf to fxs_ks
01:50.34tzangerkm-: no, the only difference between E&M and E&M_W is that winking lets the far end tell you when it's ready.. otherwise it's just a dumb delay
01:51.10tzangerkm-: I'm just guessing here, btw, with this fxs/fxo stuff
01:51.28tzangerI mean ringing is the same as siezing the line
01:51.35tzangerbut this is strange
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01:51.42tzangermight get you to hack up the driver a bit more
01:52.01km-with fxsks, there's an immediate zap/12-1 answered sip/499, but, no disconnect
01:52.11sivanahehe
01:52.25km-and
01:52.28km-I cant receive any calls
01:52.51tzangerkm-: it was just a guess
01:53.25km-yeah
01:53.27km-good try
01:53.38ChrisRouseAnyone know why Asterisk would tell me that an extension is not available for an auto login of an agent?
01:53.41km-I have to leave
01:53.49km-promised the wife I'd be out by 9 tonight
01:54.33km-I'm ok with leaving this one a quasi-mystery for the time being
01:54.44km-tzanger: want to hack on this some more friday night or possibly over the weekend?
01:54.57tzangerkm-: you're in toronto?
01:55.03km-philadelphia
01:55.11tzangerahh I was gonna say
01:55.15tzangerI'm going to torastricon on friday
01:55.20sivanahehe
01:55.21tzangerweekend might be better though
01:55.28km-sure
01:55.37km-I'll be idling here tomorrow and friday
01:55.38tzangeryou might want to look in zt_rbsbits
01:55.47tzangerand add some debuggery there to see what's going on
01:55.53km-gotcha
01:55.54tzangerthis is strange though
01:55.57tzangerit should be working
01:56.04tzangeryou can place the call too
01:56.07tzangerwhich is what's baffling
01:56.09km-yeah, that's how it always goes with asterisk  "THIS SHOULD BE WOKRING!!!"
01:56.14tzangerkm-: :-)
01:56.20km-thats what i heard the whole time when I was getting hdlc working
01:56.30km-finally had to have citats patch the hdlc driver
01:56.32km-hehe
01:56.40km-okie doke, catch you guys tomorrow
01:56.45sivanalater
01:56.57km-tzanger: thank you a million times over for all your help tonight, at least it's working well enough that nobody will know the difference tomoroow
01:57.05tzangerkm-: :-) hopefully
01:57.09tzangerand you're welcome
01:57.14km-hehe
01:57.16km-ok, ttyl
01:57.37tzangerhe's not seeing the network show answer
01:57.38BrianR___tzanger: having fun with my norstar integration project - still no luck with tone detection based disconnect supervision though...
01:57.39tzangerwhich si what's weird
01:58.01tzangerBrianR___: I would have thought it would have been as simple as adding the frequencies to the callprogress code
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02:00.19Beavehello all!
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02:00.25MrEntropyyo
02:00.33Inv_arphttp://www.jcreator.com/download.php?c=630ce14eb9efb1047438928bde43bbdb
02:00.41Inv_arpbah wrong chan
02:00.54Groobytee hee hee
02:01.25BeaveI have CLID dumping to a MySQL database,  anyone have any suggestions on nice frontends to the CLID database?  I thought about writting one,  but no reason to re-invent the wheel...
02:02.01BrianR___tzanger: I think I'm going to review (and modify if needed) the callprogress code.
02:02.24Inv_arpi have inbound sip (BV) for my business, if iam on phone and some1 else calls can they go thru my menu's in extension.conf also?
02:02.25BrianR___Also, the norstar VMI has the ability to signal disconnect via DTMF. Rumore has it there's some code for that in CVS.
02:02.45BrianR___Using the DTMF D tone would help avoid false disconnects in some cases too.
02:03.12tzangerBrianR___: yes I remember hearing about that in CVS
02:03.20BrianR___Prolly less likely to get a "D" than a dialtone too..
02:03.23tzangerI think it was * or # to disconnect but it was moved to D
02:03.37BrianR___configured in features.conf, no less.
02:04.01GraphikosI have 2 IP phones... in a simple setup.  Both can call each other, etc but you can't hear anything from one of the phones... any suggestions on how to trouble shoot that?
02:04.14BrianR___tzanger: No no.. The guy thought his voicemail was sending a '*' but it was really senidng a 'D'. the disconnect= option in features.conf is aparently configurable..
02:04.24tzangerahh yes
02:04.28tzangerI remember now
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02:04.40MrEntropyhow does sipXpbx compare to asterisk in terms of features?
02:04.55|Vulture|doesnt :P
02:04.58MrEntropyhaha
02:05.05ManxPowerWell, it only supports SIP, for one thing
02:05.16MrEntropywhat about hardware?
02:05.23|Vulture|yea IAX2 and Harware is where its at for *
02:05.42|Vulture|SIP is great for phone support.. but IAX is better for communications
02:06.02dan2who do I get to see at von this year?
02:06.44BrianR___http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+config+features.conf
02:06.47BrianR___found it.
02:07.06MrEntropyi think it would be worth while coding a driver for asterisk to handle the audiocodes tp cards
02:07.43BrianR___Now I gotta find the change in CVS and see if i can backport it to stable
02:08.00BrianR___Is there a cvsweb anywhere for the asterisk source?
02:08.39tzangerBrianR___: yes
02:08.42tzangerwww.asterisk.org
02:09.05GraphikosI have 2 IP phones... in a simple setup.  Both can call each other, etc but you can't hear anything from one of the phones... any suggestions on how to trouble shoot that?
02:10.08|Vulture|Graphikos: is there a NAT or firewall inbetween them?
02:10.14Graphikosno
02:10.29Graphikos192.168.0.7 & 8  ...
02:10.45Graphikos* on 5
02:10.50|Vulture|the handset is plugged in right, correct?
02:11.00Graphikosheh... yes
02:11.10|Vulture|don't laugh I did it once :(
02:11.11Graphikosyou can hear the other phone.... but nothing from it...
02:11.19|Vulture|strange
02:11.38|Vulture|try doing an echo test
02:11.56Graphikosheh, thats over my head right now.. I just bearly got this going...
02:12.00|Vulture|see if it is rx/tx to *
02:12.03|Vulture|ah 1s
02:12.06|Vulture|Ill pastebin it
02:12.11Graphikosthank you
02:13.12|Vulture|Graphikos: http://pastebin.ca/6357 put that in your extensions.conf
02:13.25|Vulture|then dial 111 from each phone and wait for the tone, then talk
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02:14.05padf00thi all
02:14.23padf00ti need to do some more understanding of the SWITCH statement in IAX
02:14.30padf00twhere could i find a gud example
02:14.32Groobyw00t! got speex to work!
02:14.33padf00tor doc on that
02:14.38Graphikosworks good from phone 1... let me try the bad phone.... across the hall
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02:15.48BrianR___tzanger: Couldn't find a cvsweb there, so i'm pulling down the whole damn source for some hacking..
02:15.56Graphikosnope.. no echo repeat from that phone at all
02:15.56BrianR___figured it'd come to this point anyway.
02:15.59tzangeroh I thought they hd one
02:16.02trymI have installed spandsp to have asterisk receive faxes. When a fax call is made to asterisk, asterisk starts whining about RFC3389. I also notice that the volume spandsp/asterisk is communicating with varies.. which is not normal for a fax session. Any suggestions?
02:16.11BrianR___Maybe i wasn't looking hard enough.
02:16.18trymin other words.. not working
02:16.18tzangerahh cvsup not cvsweb
02:16.19tzangersorry
02:16.29|Vulture|Graphikos: very strange... try to plug the phone in somewhere else... do you know for a fact that this phone works?
02:16.48BrianR___never played with cvsup before either.. Using it now to pull in all the stuff
02:16.51Graphikosits brand new... but no I don't know...
02:16.57|Vulture|what kinda phone?
02:17.09GraphikosSipura SPA-841..
02:17.11Graphikosthey both are
02:17.23|Vulture|ah.. no exp. with those
02:17.38Graphikosswapping headsets just for fun
02:17.43|Vulture|k
02:18.21EssobiAnyone know why my sip trunks from my Cisco routers all land in default even thou I have a context set for them?
02:18.32EssobiI can't figure out why. :|
02:18.38EssobiI'm running -head.
02:18.50Graphikosnope.. no help
02:19.24GraphikosDo you think it might just be some sort of config problem?  because its amazing I got this far..
02:19.53Graphikosconfig files are pretty scrapped together...
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02:21.18|Vulture|Graphikos: are your 2 entries in sip.conf the same?
02:21.34Graphikosyes...
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02:21.50|Vulture|go into asterisk and type "sip show peers"
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02:22.00|Vulture|see if they look the same, except for the IPs
02:22.23Graphikosthey do...
02:23.24|Vulture|Graphikos: duno what to say... they should work... you could use "sip debug" and see if you can find a problem
02:23.25|Vulture|but its prolly a little involved
02:23.25Graphikosok...
02:23.30Graphikosthanks.
02:23.32|Vulture|np
02:23.55Inv_arpi have inbound sip (BV) for my business, if iam on phone and some1 else calls can they go thru my menu's in extension.conf also?
02:24.36modulus_OMG
02:24.42modulus_inv_arp BV? that's death wish.
02:25.47Inv_arpmodulus_: ? works fine for me
02:26.44Inv_arpi hate the fact that they don use gsm tho
02:27.40Inv_arpmodulus_: had bad experience with them?
02:30.18modulus_inv_arp, i've only had good experiences with voip
02:30.20BrianR___Hmm.. The example sup file for asterisk does checkout mode.. :(
02:30.20modulus_NOT!
02:30.30BrianR___Waiting again to get a real tree..
02:30.46bjohnsonInv_arp: good question .. and you're in a position to find out.  Does Broadvoice allow multiple concurrent incoming and/or outgoing calls and how do they charge for them?
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02:31.14GraphikosI'd like to know that also...
02:31.42shido6.....
02:31.52ManxPower~docs
02:31.53jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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02:33.19bjohnsonInv_arp: you may want to start by reading theier terms of service.  And please note anything you find out on the wiki
02:33.31shmaltzanybody here that has a polycom phone?
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02:36.23lilneonhi and good evening guuys
02:36.26Inv_arpbjohnson: well when some1 else calls i get a signal to switch over  b/c  i have call waiting with them...but not sure if 2nd call can go thru my prompts
02:36.27lilneonand gyals
02:36.47lilneonhey guys anyone here know how to open up ports on a winxp machine?
02:37.05Trionnislater guys
02:37.06Beirdowith a crowbar
02:37.38bjohnsonInv_arp: I don't think so if call waiting is on.
02:37.53Inv_arpbjohnson: ahh k
02:38.04Inv_arplilneon: u mean SP2 xp?
02:38.17bjohnsonInv_arp: can you turn off cw and try it?
02:38.29Groobyugh
02:38.33Groobyspeex is horrible
02:38.47Inv_arpbjohnson: ahh k will do
02:38.56Inv_arpGrooby: robotic?
02:39.17Groobymore like i can't make out what I was saying
02:39.43GraphikosDomo arigato, Mr. Roboto
02:39.55lilneonInv_arp: yeah
02:40.00Groobyinv_arp, you have experience using speex?
02:40.19Inv_arpGrooby: nah just read bout it
02:40.28lilneoninv_arp: putting in exceptions but they not even getting applied.. cuz if i do a port scan the ports are still closed
02:41.04Groobyback to ilbc I go
02:41.09Inv_arplilneon: closed means programs is not running     doesnt mean firewalled
02:41.22Groobyalso learned today that x-lite is much better than sjphone in terms of voice quality
02:41.34lilneonInv_arp: but what if the programs are running?
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02:42.14Inv_arplilneon: check the ports they are listening on    netstat -an   (xp)     netstat -tuanp  (linux)
02:42.26Inv_arplinux version far better :)
02:42.32bjohnsonGrooby: gsm seems to be more popular than ilbc around here .. but they are pretty close contenders (after ulaw as the favorite)
02:43.01lilneonInv_arp: yeah doing that.. and the ports the program uses aren't there.. for windows.. but the program is running
02:43.48Inv_arpohhh gsm :)
02:44.18Inv_arplilneon: whats your setup and/or trying to do?
02:45.30Groobyi get better quality (IMO) with ilbc
02:45.46Groobyi guess i get more packet drops with my cable modem
02:45.47Inv_arpwoah windoze  has a nice proggy to map programs with ports   ( ive been wanting that for years)
02:46.31Inv_arpfport
02:50.32okieplayai have a IAXy s100 i have it all most setup can someone help me please
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02:51.16Inv_arpokieplaya: if u ask a ques yea
02:51.19lilneonInv_arp: i am trying to get my linux free tds to use mssql server 2000 on my windows box.. wrked before but not since installed sp2.. checked ms site.. they claimed to simply add the exception in the firewall for s\mssql
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02:51.46lilneonInv_arp:  but that doesn't seem to wrk.. still getting a connection refused frm the linux side
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02:52.06okieplayaok i did every thing that pdf told me only thing i cant get goin IAXy with the following command:
02:52.06okieplaya./iaxyprov <ip of the IAXy> <file>
02:52.06okieplayai.e.:
02:52.06okieplaya./iaxyprov 192.168.0.100 iaxy.conf.sample
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02:52.44Inv_arplilneon: a connection refused means  program is not listening on specified port   firewalls (including sp2) usually do not return refused
02:54.04lilneonInv_arp: but mssql server is set to listen on port 1433 in windows..  it jsut doesn't show up in neither fport,nmap nor netstat
02:54.12okieplayai never see this after saveing the iaxy.conf. If registration is successful, you will receive a notice on the command line
02:54.37lilneonInv_arp: so.. i guess i should try reinstalling mssql server 2000 right?
02:55.03Inv_arplilneon: on the 2000 server  if you netstat -an   is mssql listening on 1433?
02:55.04okieplayaany i deal what im doin wrong im useing ssh to setup that ok?
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02:55.52okieplayaInv_arp> any i deals
02:56.47lilneonInv_arp: no it is not :S
02:57.04lilneonInv_arp:any idea why not? and how i could get it to do so?
02:57.36Inv_arplilneon: no idea since this is windoze  ?(reboot)?
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02:59.02lilneonInv_arp: sigh...
03:00.37syslodAnyone working on QSIG name in here?
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03:01.43BrianR___Hmm.. It looks like DTMF disconnect is lumped in with a whole pile of other crap :(
03:02.35NomadPCsI'm looking to install asterisk on a single phone line for my small office - I'm very good with Linux, networking and PCs - looking for someone who can show me what I need to get for hardware.
03:02.40dan2bkw_: am I going to get to see your at VoN?
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03:03.11ariel_NomadPCs, simple start with asterisk@home add a tdm11b and your done.
03:03.18NomadPCsty
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03:10.00okieplayaInv_arp ok i ask any help?
03:11.13Inv_arpokieplaya: hmm never used iaxy before... but usually anything iax isnt hard to setup
03:11.49okieplayayea thats what would think
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03:18.24Ron-NaI need some basic info, ...
03:19.45Ron-Naif I have a SIP phone somewhere, registered to my Asterisk box and I want to use NuFone as provider. I have registered NuFune with SIP, so that the media stream goes not through my server. Am I correct with that?
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03:20.28filedan2: poke
03:20.41Ron-NaI found only info how setup Nufone with iax but not with sip, ...
03:20.54BrianR___got it finally
03:20.55BrianR___exten => s,1,Dial(local/in@fromvmi/n,10,H)
03:21.03BrianR___makes DTMF disconnect supervision work
03:21.25tzangerBrianR___: nice!
03:21.38filecheater
03:21.43filebut inventive.
03:21.46BrianR___it's hardcoded to '*' in 1.0.5, but at least I can hack it to DTMF 'D' until the newer res_features is out.
03:21.55znoGRon-Na: if you connect to your asterisk box, why not get asterisk to talk IAX to NuFone?
03:22.05tzangerBrianR___: ATAs can send 'D' on hangup?
03:22.19BrianR___tzanger: They can send any DTMF tone, including A B C D
03:22.24mishehuI was looking at astcc for doing a prepaid solution in a shared office space I might be providing service to.  Is there another prepaid solution out there already that doesn't require the dialer to dial a pin number for every call they make?
03:22.28Ron-Nabecause the sip phone is not at my site, it is somewhere ...
03:22.28tzangerBrianR___: how do you configure that ??
03:22.38filemishehu: astcc can use callerid
03:22.41BrianR___Oh. Sorry. not ATA's. VMI's..
03:22.46tzangerahh
03:22.49BrianR___tzanger: The VMI is like a dual port ATA
03:22.56Ron-NaMy thought was if I use iax, than the media stream must go through my server, ...
03:22.57znoGRon-Na: and who does the phone connect to?
03:22.58BrianR___tzanger: with two very important features...
03:23.05tzangerBrianR___: hmm
03:23.06mishehufile: oh it can?  hmmm, I was reading the voip-info page about it, not the source.  I'll have to look at teh source then.
03:23.12Ron-Nato my server
03:23.14tzangerI have a 0x8AM
03:23.20BrianR___First, if you forward a call to a VMI's DN, it can play the original DN in DTMF.
03:23.24tzangera few ATAs
03:23.30tzangerand a pair of two-port Flash modules
03:23.49filewhere's dan2... hrm
03:23.49BrianR___second, it can play a tone on disconnect
03:24.05BrianR___tzanger: ATA's are cheap on eBay. I got 3 of 'em for $150
03:24.09BrianR___That's 6 ports
03:24.11znoGRon-Na: and you want the sip phone to connect to NuFone directly or via your asterisk server?
03:24.14BrianR___err. s/ATA/VMI.
03:24.15tzangerATAs or VMIs
03:24.16tzangerheh
03:24.32BrianR___3 VMI's gives you 6 ports.. And disconnect supervision.
03:24.59tzangerBrianR___: you connect them to * with FXO or FXS ports on *?
03:25.03Ron-NaznoG I want that the phone and NuFon is registered with me, but the phone is somewhere
03:25.03tzangerATAs need FXO ports
03:25.05BrianR___And the ability to tell what extension forwarded you a call...
03:25.19znoGRon-Na: who cares? as long as it can connect to your asterisk box!
03:25.20BrianR___tzanger: FXO ports on asterisk, just like an ATA or MOX8A.
03:25.24tzangerright
03:25.39BrianR___I still haven't got callerid working...
03:25.42Ron-NaznoG my bandwidth does care !!
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03:25.58bjohnson_PTG123: you here?
03:25.59tzangerI can forward the calls to an 8xx extension on the PRI and see who called me that way
03:26.04fileI have never gotten SIP reinvites working, that is - getting the audio to go direct
03:26.06tzangerbut I can't light WMI yet
03:26.14BrianR___tzanger: Yes.. If you have PRI none of this matters much.
03:26.36tzangerI can light MWI with an ATA or 0x8AM but that's dirty, especially since I have the PRI
03:26.39znoGRon-Na: so, you want the phone to go STRAIGHT to NuFone, right?
03:26.52BrianR___tzanger: But for doing like a Norstar 6x16 integraiton, the VMI is the only way.
03:27.00BrianR___since the little norstars have no T1 sockets.
03:27.03tzangerBrianR___: right
03:27.10Ron-NaznoG, that what I was thinking should work, but billing via my server
03:27.18tzangerBrianR___: you don't happen to know how to light MWI from a public trunk PRI?
03:27.19BrianR___And even if they did, for a system in thta price range you're not going to buy $1000 of T1 hardware...
03:27.22znoGRon-Na: how you propose on doing that?
03:27.26znoGRon-Na: this isn't radius
03:27.27tzangerHell I'd settle for knowhing how to do it on a TIE trunk PRI
03:27.31BrianR___tzanger: Does *1 work over DISA?
03:27.34filemagic.
03:27.42tzangerBrianR___: never tried DISA... will tomorrow
03:27.45tzangernever thought of that
03:27.53tzangerBrianR___: damn man, you have all the ideas for Norstar
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03:28.14BrianR___doesn't work over DISA. Sorry.
03:28.14bkw_yo
03:28.15bkw_doughecka_,
03:28.18bkw_is that you on /..
03:28.24syslodtzanger: Isn't that a facility message and someones working on it?
03:28.27BrianR___(I have a DID pointed at my norstar DISA)
03:28.33tzangersyslod: only if you can get SL1
03:28.33bkw_When Doug Heckman was installing a PC Pitstop program, he actually read the EULA.
03:28.35BrianR___Using a single ATA port for lighting MWI on a norstar isn't so bad.
03:28.37tzangersyslod: and I can't get SL1 yet :-)
03:28.37mishehufile: get a room!
03:28.47tzangerBrianR___: no it's not but still
03:28.48Ron-NaznoG basic question: if I have a sip phone somewhere and call another sip phone somewhere, but both phones are registerd to my server, than the sip messages are coming to my server, but the media stream is going directly, am I right?
03:29.07bjohnson_~seen PTG123
03:29.09jbotptg123 is currently on #asterisk (1h 24m 30s)
03:29.10BrianR___tzanger: Also needed for doing voice call and paging anyway, so...
03:29.18syslodtzanger: Does it work over QSIG.
03:29.21mishehuRon-Na: I don't believe so.
03:29.49tzangersyslod: nope
03:29.53tzangersyslod: tried that already :-)
03:30.00BrianR___QSIG?
03:30.04tzangeryeah
03:30.09BrianR___What is QSIG?
03:30.10tzangernorstar MICS doesn't support qsig
03:30.23tzangerat least not without telling it it's not in north america, at which pint I bet a lot of other stuff breaks
03:30.36tzangerBrianR___: think of it as PBX interop signaling
03:30.40BrianR___aah.
03:31.08znoGRon-Na: i believe once the connection is made, your server doesn't know about the call anymore. At least that's how i thought it works.
03:31.10BrianR___The norstar does support turning on MWI based on the MWI on an analog loop start trunk associated with a set. Not sure if it works with PRI.
03:31.16syslodQSIG is a euro standard really but many PBX support it.  You can do DSS buttons, VM and all sorts of other stuff over ISDN.
03:31.26tzangerBrianR___: yes you can do that but only on very few defined sets
03:31.57BrianR___Few defined sets? If you can do it for a target line and you have a target line assigned to every set...
03:32.00tzangeryou can set a vm callback or something to that effect and I bet I can set MWI IEs but I think it's on a per-DID (and thus per-set) basis
03:32.10tzangerBrianR___: hmm
03:32.35BrianR___The telco MWI passthru thing is done on a per-line basis.
03:32.40Ron-NaznoG: that what I read about too, ... How can I setup the NuFon with sip? Or does it not matter anyway if I use Iax ????
03:32.40tzangerBrianR___: I would have thought that would make every set say "you've got msg" when the IE was sent
03:32.56BrianR___tzanger: No idea...
03:33.06tzangerBrianR___: yes but you can only define like 4 or 5 (I think it was ridiculously low) Voicemail Ctrs
03:33.12modulus_afk(smoke);
03:33.18|Vulture|with a PRI you can set your outbound CID... correct?
03:33.32tzanger|Vulture|: depends on the telco but generally yes
03:33.34bkw_yes
03:33.40syslodYou can also do on T1 CAS.
03:33.48BrianR___tzanger: Yes. But the message center is the number that gets dialed when the user presses the "ANSWER MESSAGE" softkey
03:33.59|Vulture|oky, just trying to collect all my info... my first PRI ;)
03:34.00tzangerBrianR___: hmm
03:34.09mishehuhmmm, I'm seeing some docs on voip-info that point to asterisk branch 1.1...  any estimate on when 1.1 will be stable?
03:34.17BrianR___tzanger: So long as you don't care that the user has to enter both mailbox and password to check voicemail the message center limit is not a problem.
03:34.33tzangerBrianR___: I still think if you say line 187 is assigned ot all sets and then send a MWI on msg to the DID assigned to line 187 that all sets will show the message
03:34.46tzangerBrianR___: yeah I don't give a rat's ass about htat
03:35.02BrianR___The real problem is whether or not MWI passthru is supported for target lines and if there's a way to indicate telco-voicemail message waiting over PRI.
03:35.18BrianR___tzanger: Yes. Every set with line 187 assigned will light up as message waiting. At least that's how it works for POTS lines.
03:35.30BrianR___How often do you put a target line on multiple sets though?
03:35.35Ron-NaHow do I use exten => _91NXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(IAX2/username@NuFone/${EXTEN:1}  to sip ??  (Just replace IAX2 with SIP ???)
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03:35.45tzangerBrianR___: well then you run into the limit that you can only define (I think) 30 DIDs
03:35.51VaHamishWow???
03:35.56tzangerso if you have 45 exetnsions there's 15 that you can't light up MWI on
03:36.14BrianR___tzanger: The limit on a CICS is 160 or something. We have a DID for every set and we have over 100 sets.
03:36.22VaHamishI'm just going to jump in here...
03:36.26tzangerBrianR___: this is MICS
03:36.36BrianR___err.. MICS.. We have a MICS...
03:36.40tzangerBrianR___: hmm
03:36.42BrianR___Almostf ully expanded..
03:36.45VaHamishI'm brand new to using Asterisk... and I need a bit of help getting my system configured..
03:36.48tzangerI was sure I read in the manual that it was limited
03:36.51tzangermaybe just hte base then
03:36.57VaHamishIs there someone here who could help me out?
03:37.07BrianR___I think it maxes out at something like 128 sets and 160 target lines.
03:37.14tzangeri.e. 8x32 is the default config I think
03:37.18EssobiAnyone lend me a hand debugging some sip stuff?  I got a Cisco 5400 that always seems to land in [default] instead of my [peer] I have setup for it.. it completely ignores the context it's supposed to land in.
03:37.21|Vulture|VaHamish: voip-info will provide you with tutorials to getting started
03:37.27tzangerI'll have to try this tomorrow
03:37.32modulus_back
03:37.35VaHamishI've been working through the tutorials for the last week or so..
03:37.37modulus_black
03:37.39VaHamishand I have the basics up and running,
03:37.44BrianR___Yes.. The chassis comes with two 4 port analog line cards and 32 internal station ports
03:37.52|Vulture|VaHamish: then ask any specific Q and we will try to answer
03:38.06tzangeryeah and we have two additional modules, a 0x16 and a 8x0AM, or is it 16x0 and 0x8AM
03:38.08BrianR___We have two service/fiber cards and two T1's in our cabinet.
03:38.09VaHamishbut I have an TDM400 and am having problems getting it working.
03:38.09tzangerI think it's the latter
03:38.22|Vulture|VaHamish: what distro of linux?
03:38.37VaHamishI've got the drivers loaded, cause the lights are lit on the board, for the two modules.
03:38.41|Vulture|VaHamish: or better yet.. kernel
03:38.59VaHamishand the handset that's pluged in has battery, you can hear the tones when you press the keys.
03:38.59BrianR___nostar is definantly the cheapest phone system around though.
03:39.07tzangerBrianR___: oh I remember what it was now
03:39.12tzangerI had assigned a DID to a set
03:39.15tzangernot a target line
03:39.22|Vulture|VaHamish: FXO or FXS modules?
03:39.30VaHamishI have one of each.
03:39.31tzangeri.e. 0000243 rings my set directly
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03:39.43tzangerI also have 2914574 which is line 187 which is pvt to my set
03:39.45|Vulture|VaHamish: does it show them in ztcfg -vv ?
03:40.17VaHamishChannel 01: FXO Kewlstart
03:40.25BrianR___We simply set the target line to APPR&RING on the person's DN - that's how we do all of the direct inward dialing.
03:40.25VaHamishChannel 04: FXS Kewlstart
03:40.40tzangerBrianR___: yeah that makes more sense
03:41.14BrianR___making private lines all over the place causes you to run into limits on the norstar.
03:41.17|Vulture|VaHamish: seems like it works to me.. whats the problem?
03:41.25BrianR___every line in our CICS is set to type public
03:41.33VaHamishwell there's no dial tone on the handset..
03:41.40tzangerBrianR___: *nods*
03:41.59tzangerI'll have to see if I can light MWI via PRI IE
03:42.04|Vulture|VaHamish: Ive never used FXS modules, so I cant tell you :(
03:42.11VaHamishI have sip configured, I can call from one sip phone on one computer to another..
03:42.12BrianR___tzanger: If you make that go, I'd be interested to hear :)
03:42.26tzangerBrianR___: will definitely keep you in the loop
03:42.42BrianR___I should sell preconfigured asterisk/norstar voicemails on eBay :)
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03:42.49tzanger:-)
03:42.57tzangerdon't steal my business plan :)
03:43.00BrianR___Heh heh
03:43.25BrianR___Actually, there's a comapny which makes a four port PCI card that speaks the Norstar station protocol...
03:43.31tzangerBrianR___: yeah
03:43.34tzangerdialogic
03:43.38VaHamishI tell you it's pretty darn frustrating..
03:43.38tzangerthey're expensive though
03:43.49BrianR___Since each Norstar station port has 2 bearer channels, you can run eight IVR calls that way
03:43.54tzangerfrom what I've learned the station ports are all ISDN BRI anyway
03:44.22BrianR___I know there's seperate settings and a bunch of DN's reserved for ISDN BRI ports on my CICS system.
03:44.30tzangeryup
03:44.48Graphikosis there any way to flush all registered peers?
03:44.51BrianR___I don't think I can use an ISDN TA on an ordinary station module port though.
03:45.02tzangerBrianR___: no, it's a fucked up protocl
03:45.15tzangersimilar to how SL1 is like qsig but not
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03:45.26BrianR___If the norstar wasn't so close to obsolescence I'd go through the reverse engineering effort.
03:45.29tzangerI plugged in an optical receiver to a fiber expansion card
03:45.38tzangerthe norstar was sending AIS
03:45.42BrianR___The nortel station module<->KSU protocol would be an interesting place to look at too.
03:45.43BrianR___AIS?
03:45.50tzangerso I'm fairly confident that the modules all talk over SL1
03:46.01tzangerred alarm (all 1s)
03:46.10tzangerso with some hacking I can make an optical monitor
03:46.20tzangerand see both sides of the conversation between cabinets
03:46.24BrianR___The norstar fiber optics are weird.
03:46.27tzangerplug it into a T100P and see
03:46.29tzangerheh
03:46.31BrianR___It's just a regular LED.
03:46.31tzangerBrianR___: howso?
03:46.33tzangeryes
03:46.37tzangerit's standard HP transcievers
03:46.43BrianR___Can't go more than a few feet.
03:46.44tzangerwe use them for our medium voltage gate firing circuitry
03:47.05BrianR___had to get a MCK mod extender to run a module to the 1st floor. Conduit was too crowded to run a 25 pair...
03:47.38BrianR___(The mod extender converts the norstar station module fiber port to single mode fiber and back again)
03:47.42BrianR___s/single/multi
03:47.43okieplayacontext=yourcontext what is yourcontext?
03:47.46tzanger*nod*
03:47.49okieplayawhats that mean
03:48.15BrianR___I thought the T100P was POTS fxo only..
03:48.23tzangerBrianR___: that's X100P
03:48.25tzangerT100P is T1
03:48.28BrianR___Oh yes..
03:48.52BrianR___I bougth generic X100P's for $10/ea on eBay.. I'm wondering if they just suck and that's why I can't make callerid go..
03:48.55tzangerdammit
03:48.58tzangerit's quarter to 11
03:49.02tzangerI wanted to be in bed a half hour ago
03:49.05tzangerthanks a lot BrianR___ :-)
03:49.06BrianR___I'm going to hit up k-mart or something and buy a $10 cidco caller id receiver
03:49.10BrianR___heh.. Let's talk again tomorrow.
03:49.15tzangerBrianR___: absolutely
03:49.19tzanger'night
03:49.25BrianR___ttyl.
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03:54.22EssobiBaaah.
03:54.44EssobiI'm mad as hell.
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03:58.49VaHamishWhy is that Essobi?
03:59.19loudbroadvoice, i bet.
04:01.34Graphikosyou guys keep making me have second thoughts about BV...
04:02.05loudGraphikos, i bought an account last night, i feel guilty already.
04:02.10Graphikosha ha..
04:02.18Graphikoswell I've been quite happy with BV..
04:02.27loudbah, i dont know .. guess i have to test it more ..
04:02.28Graphikosbut I haven't done anything major with it
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04:02.36_daver_i'm using LiveVoip here
04:02.38loudi cant be quite happy only with g711.
04:02.41_daver_I had voicepulse for a while
04:02.42Graphikosnever experienced anything else...
04:02.56loudsee, livevoip is another issue, they do have good service.
04:03.11_daver_livevoip has terrible customer service response times
04:03.16VaHamishDoes anyone have any experience with the TDM400p?
04:03.17_daver_they take days to respond to emails
04:03.25loudyou have to call, not just email
04:04.04_daver_also, when i first signed up, my DID was getting constant busies - they finally fixed that.
04:04.28pului call around the world more than 40 hours a month to my wife using broadvoice for US$10... sometimes it's a bit flaky but I don't know anyone else that can do it cheaper
04:04.37okieplayadoes any one have good place for VOIP PRI like to get 30 DID over VOIP
04:04.41loudwatch this: Got SIP response 500 "Internal Server Error" back from 147.135.12.128
04:04.45loudgues who's ip is that.
04:05.57ariel_VaHamish, ask the question someone here might be able to help.
04:06.09ariel_okieplaya, where are you located?
04:06.18puluokieplaya: if you post more details to the asterisk-biz list i'm sure lots of people will write you back
04:06.43VaHamishI'm trying to configure my TDM400p, i've got the drivers loaded, I've got ztcfg showing the two modules, but I can't get a dial tone on the phone I pluged into the board.
04:07.26ariel_VaHamish, did you plug the phone into the correct plug. Is one fxo and otherone fxs?
04:07.55VaHamishYes, I have battery on the handset, I can press a number and hear the dtmf.
04:08.14VaHamishYes, one is fxo, the other is fxs, and only one gives the handset battery.
04:08.17|Vulture|Anyone here ever use Megapath or Xspedius T1-Data service?
04:09.28VaHamishOk first question, ztcfg shows the FXO in channel 1, should the line in /etc/zaptel.conf for that channel be fxoks=1?
04:09.51JunK-Yits a FXO card?
04:10.24VaHamishztcfg reports it as: Channel 01: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)
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04:11.35carloshhello, anyone has had success compiling gaim-sip under fedora 3 ? many thanks!
04:12.28carloshor , what any suggestions for a multifunctional soft client for fedora 3 ?
04:12.36ariel_VaHamish, the first port most of the time is the one you plug the phone too 2nd phone line.  Now do you remember what color the modules are.
04:12.38Groobyinstalled x-lite on my imac g5.  I am really impressed by it..no audio feedback from mic input
04:12.41Groobyvery very cool
04:12.58VaHamishfirst port is the one closes to the motherboard?
04:13.05ariel_hello JunK-Y
04:13.08VaHamishclosest?
04:13.15carloshi heard x-lite was already available for linux, but could not find it..
04:13.16ariel_no
04:13.17JunK-Ylo ariel_
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04:13.34JunK-Yhow are ya today?
04:13.35ariel_first port is what I would call top of card.
04:13.52ariel_JunK-Y, just fine.
04:14.20VaHamishOk, so there are four ports if MB is the MotherBoard, they go [MB 4 3 2 1] right? If so the phone is plugged into port 1.
04:14.49Silik0ndamn hotel room with a nice highspeed wired connection
04:15.13carloshI installed linphone first, along with its pre-requisites... it was ok.. but not really there yet.. so I tried gaim-sip, I haven't been able to successfully compile it...
04:15.27VaHamishand  ztcfg -vv reports that as an FXO.
04:15.37okieplaya<ariel_> sorry im in muskogee oklahaoma
04:16.17okieplaya<pulu> where do i post this
04:17.53ariel_okieplaya, wow I don't know any one that has pri service there. But you can check with X/O and qwest for service?
04:17.57carloshcould anyone suggest or tell what softphone are you using on linux ? thanks.
04:18.21Sedoroxkphone?
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04:18.33okieplayayea i have seen it on on myphonecompany.com but they dont call back
04:18.45ariel_VaHamish, is asterisk running?
04:18.58VaHamishYes.
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04:19.02okieplayao really qwest has voip pri
04:19.05ariel_okieplaya, get a reseller don't go direct.
04:19.27okieplayareseller like?
04:19.40okieplayai have read every thing i get my hands on
04:19.41ariel_here we are paying for a pri with x/o 499 per month and 3.20 per group of 20 did's.
04:19.56okieplayawow
04:20.02okieplayaman thats great
04:20.08okieplayafrom>
04:20.10okieplaya?
04:20.28marc32344ariel-- location?
04:20.30ariel_I am in Miami, Florida
04:20.35carloshariel .. where is that ?
04:20.38carloshok
04:20.48|Vulture|ariel_: can you get multiple local areas on that PRI?
04:20.48marc32344ariel--contract?
04:20.53okieplayacan u talk on all 20 at the same time
04:21.04|Vulture|okieplaya: shhh
04:21.09|Vulture|lol
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04:21.17|Vulture|its a PRI
04:21.22ariel_|Vulture|, they used to but since B/S did a letter we now have to pay for the 3 county.
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04:21.30ariel_pri yes
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04:21.52|Vulture|B/S is crap we play just about that for 5 POTs in miami
04:21.54jsmithCan anyone tell me what the Progress() application is supposed to do?  (Yes, I'm documenting it as part of the Asterisk Documentation Project)
04:22.06okieplayashhh?  most phone companys have pri but its a group of 20 and only talk 2 at a time
04:22.17ariel_X/O is offering a 6 pots rest data for 399.
04:22.27ariel_and the 6 pots is pri
04:22.39|Vulture|Id rather just get a full pri for $100 more
04:22.40VaHamishYeah, go it working..
04:22.43Sedoroxjsmith: ummm... my guess... announces the progress in the queue.. or.. the progress of a call...
04:22.44VaHamishhot damn..
04:23.02ariel_VaHamish, which port was it?
04:23.04SedoroxI wish I could get a decent pri around here... :/
04:23.26VaHamishmy problem was in zapata.conf
04:23.52okieplayawhy u say that <|Vulture|>
04:23.53VaHamishI had the two channels configured both with fxs_ks. One should be fxs_ks, the other fxo_ks
04:24.00marc32344ne1 knows what hardware packet8 uses?
04:24.02jsmithSedorox: Unfotunately, guesses won't work here.  I need to know, so that I can document it properly.
04:24.09Sedoroxyea
04:24.27|Vulture|okieplaya: I was just messing around
04:24.31okieplayao
04:25.03|Vulture|na I am new to PRIs any info I can get is helpful :)
04:25.12okieplayaanyone reselling voip in the room
04:25.18ariel_okieplaya, sounds like isdn
04:25.40okieplayayea it is
04:25.48okieplayathere 50$
04:25.52okieplayasucks ass
04:26.03okieplayasmall town
04:26.22ariel_okieplaya, not bad price for isdn. it's a going away here.
04:27.11mishehuhas anybody used the Citel Handset Gateway for legacy digital pbx phones?
04:28.29mishehuI'm looking for some information and user experiences with the device
04:29.13carloshKPHONE does not seem to have a password field in its configuration page, so it fails to register...  :(
04:30.06ariel_carlosh, add wine and use xlite
04:30.44mishehuadd wine, and get drunk
04:31.02carloshariel_ : does xlite work ok with asterisk ?
04:31.13Sedoroxyes
04:31.14ariel_yes
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04:32.27znoGno
04:32.39znoG.. just felt like being different :)
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04:35.58Sedoroxlol
04:39.16carloshSerodox / ariel_ thanks, I just hoped i could find gaim-sip rpm....  it'd be kool to have IM as well as SIP (if not IAX2)..
04:39.47carloshgaim-sim is compliant with lindows / linspire.. only
04:39.55_Vileoh you lamo's where's the conf people?
04:40.12_Vilewrong chan
04:40.12Sedoroxhmmmm
04:40.15Sedoroxlol
04:40.56marc32344are the small voip providers getting ANY signups?
04:41.05_Vileim sure
04:41.17_Vilebut they're not getting good LD rates
04:41.27_Viletoo small of volumes
04:41.32ariel_some small ones are actually doing well.
04:41.52Sedoroxif I knew of some small ones I would probably get stuff from them
04:41.53_Vilebut i'm sure some of them are doing OK
04:41.54marc32344dont see many residents trust their phone line to a no-name providers.
04:42.15_Vilemost residents go with local voip providers if they exist in their area
04:42.24_Vileotherwise they go with the names they hear on TV
04:42.36_Vileor stick with their current ILEC, CLEC etc
04:42.53_Viledont ask why
04:43.05marc32344why?
04:43.38bkw_kllkj
04:43.44Sedoroxmy mom doesn't wanna switch :(:( she had a friend on vonage and when she was talking to her apparnetly they were having some problems.. but I'm not sure if their connection at the time was the best for it anyway
04:43.54_Vilebecause 1) they like local service, everyone likes keeping money local 2) they've heard of the VoIP provider on TV or 3) the local ILEC/CLEC is the only choice
04:44.16_Vileand really in that instance the CLEC will provide voip while the ilec will not
04:44.31_Vileso it's just a matter of whether you have any clecs in your area
04:44.41_Vileand clecs are going away
04:44.49_Vilesince the 1996 reversal crap is happening
04:44.56marc32344I dont even think that even local competition is possible. NO brand.
04:44.58ariel_The biggest problem with vonage and others at the start were problems with the like of tivo it really gave them a bad name.
04:45.03_Vileunder the nigger bush administration
04:45.21_Vileand I use that term as vulgar as I can use it
04:45.22_Vile.
04:45.38Sedoroxhow did tivo give vonage a bad name?
04:45.59ariel_they would not work.
04:46.13Sedoroxoh together?
04:46.18marc32344how can a small provider go up against the big names without any brand recognition?
04:46.29marc32344offering lower prices will not do
04:46.31_Vilemarc, I have brand and I'm not competing  with the ILEC atm in terms of VoIP
04:46.37_Vileand selling $20 less
04:46.37ariel_tivo plugged into there line would not get updates.
04:46.40_Vileper month
04:46.45Sedoroxooooooo ok....
04:46.52Sedoroxinteresting
04:47.01_Vilecreate a brand and market it, easy
04:47.02ariel_marc32344, service will.
04:47.10Sedoroxsomeone in my gall here on campus has a tivo.. was gnna try and hack it :-p
04:47.23marc32344create brand??   huge cost!!
04:47.23Sedoroxhall*
04:47.43ariel_In fact it's still a problem.  But now tivo has an internet option so it's going to be less of a problem.
04:47.43_Viledude you're smoking crack, creating a brand is registering a name and getting word of mouth
04:47.52_Vileadvertising on the radio maybe
04:47.57_Vileor local TV maybe
04:48.15_Vilework deals with local TV and radio stations, cut them deals on phone or internet service
04:48.16Sedoroxariel_: yea...
04:48.18ariel_you hit the customers you have for basic service. then you ask for reference then you flood the small area with ads.
04:48.23_Vileget yourself recognized and call it a day
04:48.31_Vileword of mouth is best
04:48.36marc32344most small voip have sat idle.  really.
04:48.51Sedoroxanyone know a few good small providers?
04:49.02ariel_www.race.com is one.
04:49.20_Vilei only deal w/ 100k minute + providers
04:49.26_Vileas my customers
04:49.31_Vileso I can't comment much here
04:49.38_Vileaside from my past experience
04:49.53Sedoroxhmmm
04:50.12ariel__Vile, so your a voip provider yourself?
04:50.24SedoroxI'm looking for the company I'm working with right now.. we just got asterisk up for between us all and stuff and its great.. but still need outside access... so..
04:50.33_Vileonly to big customers, but yes.. I stem from a background as being a small guy though
04:50.35Sedoroxbut the catch is its a canadian company
04:50.55marc32344you need big name to go into residential market.
04:50.56Beirdowhy is that a catch?
04:50.59_Vilelook at some canadian voip providers, I think protus can help you
04:51.23SedoroxI haven't been any to see a lot of voip providers that do CND did's
04:51.40Beirdoah
04:51.45Sedoroxand I haven't seen a lot of CND voip providers
04:51.46Beirdothat is a bit of an issue, yes
04:51.50_Vilethere's a couple that can, I don't do cdn, I only do 48
04:51.58Sedoroxsome.. dunno where they are... do have some dids.. like I think BV... but...
04:51.58_Vileask protus
04:52.02Beirdotalk to bjohnson, he's working on a list
04:52.02Sedoroxyea...
04:52.09_VileI think their flat rate is 1.75
04:52.12Sedoroxprotus?
04:52.18marc32344now the big players are lower their fees...  margins are going down fast
04:52.31_Vilemarc, no diff than the standard ld market
04:53.47marc32344unless you have lots of bandwidth, going up against them with a single T1 will be hard
04:54.12_VileI have enough bandwidth for what I do
04:54.20ariel_you can't go it with a t1
04:54.32_Vileand I deal in DS-3s and not T-1s
04:54.52_Vilethough, annoying T-1 customers seem to enjoy bothering me
04:55.22marc32344the upfront cost is rising
04:55.26_Viletnt is cool
04:55.33_Vilegood sip termination boxes
04:55.50ariel__Vile, there programming sucks it's worst then the cisco's cli
04:56.15ariel_But when you get then configure there up and running and you can forget them almost.
04:56.34_Vilei disagree, depending on the platform, cisco's programming is more intuitive
04:56.51_Vileariel, which is the way it should be :)
04:57.17marc32344so the local cable company gives it at $15/month.  How much lower will you have to offer to overcome the brand awareness?
04:57.22marc32344$5?
04:57.38_Vileim looking at the outdated and completely unsupported VCO series when cisco bought summa4 as a LCR solution atm
04:57.50_Vilevco80 atm
04:58.39_Vile$15/mo?
04:58.43_Vileyou're kidding me
04:58.48_Vilethat should be illegal
04:58.59_Vilei swear
04:59.07_Vilethe utility companies are taking over again
04:59.18ariel_well 19.95 mark is looking like the braking point don't think it will get lower any time soon.
04:59.30_Vileit's $35/mo here
04:59.41ariel_35 for cable?
04:59.49_Vilefor cable internet
04:59.52ariel_I was thinking 19.95 for voip service.
05:00.02marc32344no, voip serv
05:00.11ariel_here cable is around 49 per month for internet access.
05:00.12loudok im less angry with bv .. works kinda OK right now ..
05:00.18_Vilethe local cable company is looking at going into VoIP now too
05:00.25_Vilewhich should be illegal as well
05:00.43_Vileregulation is needed, but won't happen under this administration
05:00.47ariel_same here got a mailer from them.
05:00.59ariel_no please no more regulations
05:01.08Beirdowhy should it be illegal?
05:01.08_Vileyou have to have regulation
05:01.08Sedoroxguess we're gonna start to see cable modems from the likes of Motorola (and cisco will have to come out with a new one) that has fxs ports ini t...
05:01.17_Vileotherwise you kill local competition
05:01.25_Vileand send money to other states
05:01.33Beirdothe cable companies have a vast IP network, why shouldn't they be allowed to do VOIP
05:01.38_Vilewhich drains local economy
05:01.40_Vileetc etc etc
05:01.59_Vileread up
05:01.59ariel_but that is why there are many different vies.
05:02.14ariel_./vies/views
05:02.15marc32344atleast two big providers lowered their rates in the past 3months
05:02.31Beirdowho cares where the money ends up, it's all going to the rich anyways
05:02.31_Vileif you let local cable companies compete in the voice market
05:02.38_Vilethen you now have two ILECs to deal with
05:02.39moonwickyeah, let's regulate voip so we can make it more expensive and protect the little guys.
05:02.40ariel_what I don't want to see is the big mergers of the bells coming up.
05:02.42moonwickpfft.
05:02.43_Vilewho will only fix prices
05:03.04_Vilethe local ilecs are buying out the IXCs
05:03.11_Vilesince they get their LD license back
05:03.17Sedoroxeveryone is buying out someone
05:03.20_Vileand can now compete
05:03.28Beirdowho cares?
05:03.37ariel_voip service, sat service, wireless service it's all going to merge in the end.
05:03.41_Vileanyone who does local service cares
05:03.45_Vileor should care
05:03.49Sedoroxariel_: sad.. but true...
05:04.07Beirdoif they can't compete, they die.  such is life
05:04.26marc32344the T1 providers win.
05:04.30_Vileuhm, read up on the 1996 Telecommunications Act and see why CLECs were put into place.
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05:04.39_Vileand then come back and talk here
05:04.42_Vileuntil then stfu
05:04.46Mikesomeone knows whats the last wisip firmware version?
05:04.52BeirdoI don't care why it was put into place, it's irrelevant anyways
05:05.10_Vileit's very relevant
05:05.23Beirdoregulation has not made the US telecom market any cheaper for the consumer, just more confusing
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05:05.46_VileI can offer a data T-1 for $99, the ILEC is charging you $500+
05:05.46ariel_actuall I think it's made it more expensive
05:05.49_Viletell me about local competition.
05:05.57Beirdoand I will not STFU.  Maybe you should just chill out.
05:06.01Sedorox_Vile: where you at? :-p
05:06.06_Vilecentral oregon
05:06.11Sedoroxdamn
05:06.15_Vilerural
05:06.26_Vilezone 2 T1s are no more than $100 more.
05:06.37Sedoroxhmm
05:06.43Beirdothere's no reason that companies shouldn't be allowed to be in the marketplace just to save the little guys, that's absurd
05:06.51_Vilethey classed us at zone 1 for whatever reason
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05:07.15_VileBeirdo, you should really do your history.
05:07.26Beirdothose who can't compete die out
05:08.07ariel__Vile, how far do you have to be from the big city to get zone 2?
05:08.11_VileBeirdo, when the ilec owns the facilities that you purchase and decides to raise rates on you, and basically tells you what your selling point is, and then sells lower, that's illegal.
05:08.20_Vileit's all about facilities
05:08.35_Vileif I could own the copper pairs I have going into the businesses I serve
05:08.46_Vilethen we'd be discussing a different matter.
05:09.00marc32344how much initial is needed to go into local res voip?
05:09.03_Vileariel, 30-40 minutes.
05:09.03Beirdohow is that related in any way to cable companies offering VOIP?
05:09.13_Vileor 10-20 miles or so
05:09.37_VileBeirdo, because cable companies have local facilities into most people's homes
05:09.50Beirdoand you already said you are offering T1 at 1/5 of the price of the ILEC, you are already competing
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05:10.07Beirdoso?
05:10.10_Vileonly at their grace, lately they seem to be able to raise the price on everything
05:10.11Beirdoso do most ISPs
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05:10.21_Vileread up man
05:10.33BeirdoVOIP is a broadband data transport issue
05:10.40_VileFCC regulations are reversing the 1996 act of splitting the bell
05:10.43Beirdoit doesn't fit into the telco paradigm
05:10.54Beirdoso what?
05:11.03Beirdoin Canada we NEVER split our Bell
05:11.10_Vilesad
05:11.16Sedoroxyea
05:11.18Sedoroxand you got telus
05:11.23Sedoroxwhich chargs out the arse
05:11.29Beirdoand we have good service at comparable rates to the US, and it is a heck of a lot confusing
05:11.43_VileI give up
05:11.48_Vileyour service sucks
05:11.53Sedoroxlol
05:11.53_Vileyou've got great health care
05:12.00shido6what is ffdefault.cfg?
05:12.04_Vileand we don't
05:12.06shido6anyone have an example
05:12.07_Vilelet's call it even
05:12.13Sedorox:-p
05:13.01Beirdolet's not :)
05:13.09_Vileok
05:13.14_Vilethen I'm on the high side
05:13.17_Vileand your service still sucks
05:13.29_Vilebell canada
05:13.47Sedoroxlol
05:13.53_Vilethat's like asking someone for a boot
05:14.06BeirdoVOIP has not much to do with old-style telcos
05:14.22_Viledoesn't matter, your country still sucks
05:14.29Beirdootherwise I'd never be allowed to run my own VOIP service to bypass Bell
05:14.36Sedoroxoi....
05:14.39Beirdoyou are saying that THAT should be regulated
05:14.48Beirdoand I say phooey on that
05:15.05_VileI'm saying that if you're a US company, then regulation is very important to being your own VoIP provider
05:15.12_Vileand very important to you as being a CLEC
05:15.24_Vilewho cares about canada, I know nothing about them other than that they talk funny
05:15.36|Vulture|lol
05:15.41Beirdospoken like a true ignorant Yank :)
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05:15.44Sedoroxlol
05:15.50_Vilesouthern boy here
05:16.12BeirdoI'll continue to call you a Yank while you continue to act like one :)
05:16.46ariel__Vile, southern boy....hum he is out west.
05:17.04_VileI partnered with a guy in Canada about 6 years ago doing jsworld.com, pcgaming.com, netpedia.com, he in turned fucked me over, so, I'll continue to disrespect you people until I guess that's been made right
05:17.06ariel_well it's my bed time. I have work to do in the morning. See you all later.
05:17.08Beirdoas a consumer, disallowing companies from providing us service is NEVER in our best interest.
05:17.13_VileI'm currently out west, yes
05:17.29|Vulture|night ariel_
05:17.29BeirdoOh, blame an entire country for one scumbag?
05:17.42_VileBeirdo, yeah it's called discrimination.
05:17.50|Vulture|lol
05:17.55BeirdoOK, in that case maybe I should disrespect all of the US due to Bill Gates :)
05:18.04Beirdohardly fair reasoning
05:18.20Sedoroxoi
05:18.38_Vileactually, Bill Gates is worse than the bell's.
05:18.47_Vilehurts more companies than the big ilecs
05:18.57Beirdono kidding
05:19.21_VileI'd assume get rid of him, hell if we did that, I'd quit my job and enjoy holidays for the next 30 years
05:19.29Sedoroxlol
05:19.30_Vilebut it won't happen
05:19.41Beirdoand whether you like it or not, ultimately, it's what hurts the consumers that's the most important, not what hurts companies trying to break into the market
05:19.50Beirdoas such, some regulation is necessary
05:20.01Beirdobut be careful not to wish for too much
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05:20.24_Vilewhen I'm pricing phone lines at $25 w/ no FCC Subscriber Line Charge, charging the customer no more than $28/mo and the ilec is charging them $38/mo
05:20.27_Vilewho benefits?
05:20.28bkw_ibook*CLI> show version
05:20.28bkw_Asterisk CVS-HEAD-02/23/05-23:18:54 built by brian@ibook.local on a Power Macintosh running Darwin
05:20.34SedoroxI just don't understand why BW prived are so hugh...
05:20.39Sedoroxdamn
05:20.40Beirdothe ILECs are screwing the customers, granted
05:20.55_Vileand who's giving them the power to do so?
05:21.00Beirdoand that's always been the case
05:21.07_Vileand when they raise their rates, then what?
05:21.11_Vileregulation.
05:21.12Beirdothe FCC and the customers allow it
05:21.13_Vileneeded.
05:21.27Sedoroxyea..
05:21.30_Vilecustomers don't... customers turn to the competition.
05:21.38Beirdothat's the way it works with capitalism.  supply and demand
05:21.42_Vileif you eliminate the competition then we're back to monopolyland.
05:21.51Beirdoif the consumers will pay it, it happens
05:22.01Beirdoand we do pay it, but grudgingly
05:22.06_Vileonly because they want phone service, though
05:22.16Beirdoyes
05:22.27Beirdoyou already have regulation to allow for CLECs
05:22.36Beirdoas do we
05:22.38_Vilemy point is, it's reversing
05:23.06Beirdowell, maybe you guys shoulda voted for a different administration :)
05:23.26_Vilenot my fault
05:23.31Sedoroxthe problem isn't clecs and ilecs.. as such... its them getting into VOIP.. Which is a data service.. voip and since they already have a telephone backend.. and a name.. they'll have a monopoly very fast again
05:23.32_Vileeveryone I know voted against that fat fuck
05:23.48|Vulture|he is fat?
05:23.51Sedoroxlol
05:23.54_Vilecolin powells' son is running the FCC
05:23.54BeirdoSedorox: not likely.
05:24.02_Vilehow did that happen
05:24.03Sedoroxwe didn't vote him tho
05:24.09_Vileand no, we didn't
05:24.13_Vilehe was appointed
05:24.13Sedoroxat least he's stepping down...
05:24.16_Vileby that dumbass
05:24.16Sedoroxyea...
05:24.18_Vileand yes he is
05:24.20Sedoroxhehe
05:24.31Beirdowhile people can offer it cheaper, they will not have a monopoly
05:24.38|Vulture|anyone ever use Xspedius or Megapath?
05:24.43_VileBeirdo, they raised our price by $3
05:24.43marc32344the small player has really no chance.
05:24.47_Vilegot rid of UNE-P
05:24.51_Vileper line
05:24.59_Vilethey will raise it another $3 in the next year
05:25.03_Vile$6 more per line
05:25.16Beirdowhat kind of line?
05:25.19_Vilepots
05:25.20SedoroxBeirdo: true.. but the thing is.. they have the name.. so more people will goto them.. and they will charge more for other providers to has access to the PSTN..
05:25.23|Vulture|yea our communications taxes are crap
05:25.34_Vilefrom $16 to $21..
05:25.37_Vileand when we sell at $25
05:25.39Beirdowell, that's a failure of FCC
05:25.44Beirdobut still
05:25.48_Vileit makes profit go to $4/line
05:26.18Beirdoit's also called inflation
05:26.20|Vulture|_Vile: will you be passing on the increase to new customers?
05:26.49_VileVulture, yep, anyone who's not contracted
05:26.49_Vilewhich hurts sales
05:26.52|Vulture|what does the ILEC charge?
05:27.09_Viledepends on the service, but not off by much
05:27.20_Vile$35 vs $25 I think
05:27.27|Vulture|we get raped by Bellsouth down here in Florida
05:27.35_Vilebut they also charge that fcc subscriber line charge
05:27.37_Vilewhich is all profit
05:27.46_Vileso deduct $6.50 from that
05:28.04_VileI used to get raped by Bellsouth in TN
05:28.38Beirdothe whole point is...  VOIP negates the need for POTS
05:28.57|Vulture|I use Bellsouth in FL, Verizon in CA and I forgot the ilec in St. Louis, MO
05:29.05Beirdoif you are trying to make a profit doing POTS, good luck.
05:29.33_Viletrue, but offer reliable 911 service and negotiate calea, then let me know how your service is.
05:29.35|Vulture|voip has the tendancy to be sketchy
05:29.47mishehuugh.
05:29.53mishehuspeex pisses me off
05:29.59Beirdocalea is a stupid idea, your government's on crack
05:30.00|Vulture|mishehu: why is that?
05:30.13_VileBeirdo, i've never disagreed with that.
05:30.15Inv_arpwhen u guys say POTS line u mean the phone numbers themselves?
05:30.21shido6no
05:30.23_Vileinv, no, copper
05:30.25|Vulture|DIDs are #s
05:30.27mishehuit works perfectly fine when the originating point is IAX2, but if the originating point is SIP g711ulaw, audio gets all chopped and desynced
05:30.27shido6plain old telephone service
05:30.29|Vulture|POTS are regular lines
05:30.31shido6co lines
05:30.34shido6analog lines
05:30.38Inv_arpahh k
05:30.42Inv_arpcontinue
05:30.50shido6Inv_arp keep listening :)
05:30.54shido6been doin it for 3 yrs
05:30.58VaHamishOk, I've got another Zaptel question..
05:31.13mishehu|Vulture|: you used speex at all?
05:31.14Sedoroxlol
05:31.17Beirdocalea sucks ass. :)
05:31.24|Vulture|I have 7 offices on * right now, and I am about to bring a T1 PRI and a T1-Data to my main office to terminate inbound calls and send them to each office
05:31.41Sedoroxhmmm
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05:32.12Inv_arp|Vulture|: got any examples of your setup on wiki blogs etc....?
05:32.28VaHamishdoes Zap/1 refer to the module in channel 1, and so then the module in channel 4, would be Zap/4?
05:32.29MrEntropyis a 200 response still considered an INVITE? otherwise what method is it?
05:32.42|Vulture|then send LD over VPC/NuFone and trying to get extended local areas on my PRI
05:32.46filea 200 is a sip reply
05:32.48|Vulture|Inv_arp: no
05:32.49Sedorox|Vulture|: here's a question.. I'm doing something similar but with just three * boxes... do you use switch lines.. or have everything hard coded?
05:32.58file200 OK, it has a status code... 200
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05:33.11_Vilegoing to bed, later
05:33.13MrEntropyfile: so it doesn't come under any sip methods?
05:33.20Sedoroxnight _Vile
05:33.23Beirdothere's only so much profit to be made in the telco world.  to get it cheap enough to compete, you need to be doing something higher density than one line per pair of copper
05:33.24filesip methods are used in sip requests
05:33.30|Vulture|Sedorox: right now I have TDMs in each office bringing in POTS... but they are so expensive that 6 POTS pretty much equals a PRI in some areas
05:33.36fileie: INVITE, ACK, BYE, INFO, REFER, CANCEL
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05:33.53MrEntropyi see, ok, thank you
05:34.05Sedorox|Vulture|: well yea.. but wasn't sure which you did.. because I did have switch but I had to switch one back to sip instead of iax
05:34.06Sedorox:/
05:34.12filesleeeeeeep I must go to sleeeeeeeeep
05:34.14marc32344anyone knows what equip packet8 runs?
05:34.20Sedorox./file &
05:34.20Sedorox:-p
05:34.56Inv_arp|Vulture|: gsm from office to office?
05:35.02|Vulture|Sedorox: I have noticed over the past 5 months a lot of VoIP providers have gotten much more stable, almost to the point I don't worry about it
05:35.08|Vulture|ilibc
05:35.12Beirdo_Vile: you just need a better regulator :)  CRTC is actually good for some things
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05:35.25|Vulture|Id like to do 729 though
05:35.38|Vulture|if I do the PRI I will prolly do 729
05:35.55Sedorox|Vulture|: no.. between the boxes.. to dial extentions across.. do you do direct... or switch?
05:36.04|Vulture|direct
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05:36.08Sedoroxok
05:36.15Inv_arpim confused isnt a PRI 24 lines?
05:36.16godsmokeis this old news?: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9180984123.html
05:36.18nwhitHey all... i am having trouble with the current cvs release of asterisk... the voicemail system won't accept any of the passwords... it reports in the log that they are invalid, but it puts a B in front of it  any ideas?
05:36.25SedoroxInv_arp: I believe so
05:36.26|Vulture|Inv_arp: 23B+1D
05:36.30Sedoroxhehe
05:36.42|Vulture|23 voice and a data channel
05:36.53Inv_arpso what does it mater on codec that is used for PRI
05:37.03Inv_arpif all u can have is 24
05:37.20|Vulture|Inv_arp: I am talking about sending these lines to the other offices through the main office
05:37.40|Vulture|Inv_arp: for example the test case will be a large office in Jacksonville, FL with a small office in Daytona, FL
05:37.46Sedoroxwe're (the company I work with) looking into getting a office in Canada (where the main people are and the servers and stuff) but I'm not sure if we wanna get a T1 and split it.. two T1's one data and one voice... keep like 3 pots and cable for internet.. or what..
05:38.08|Vulture|Inv_arp: when someone dials Daytona, FL it will go into Jacksonville through the PRI and route over the internet to Daytona and ring into their system
05:38.17Inv_arpahhh
05:38.39|Vulture|and when someone picks up a line to make an outbound call in Daytona, it goes over the inet to jacksonville, then dials out on the PRI
05:38.49|Vulture|basically making a mini VoIP provider
05:38.58Inv_arpnice
05:39.12Inv_arpall with * and cisco i bet
05:39.14|Vulture|however NuFone offers the best LD rates I've ever seen
05:39.27nwhitany ideas on my voicemail problem?
05:39.28|Vulture|* and Polycom, I use to use Cisco, but I prefer Polycoms
05:39.36Sedoroxhehe
05:39.48Inv_arpi use voipjet for longdistance
05:39.58Inv_arpand BV for incoming
05:40.12|Vulture|Im surprised you don't use BV for LD
05:40.14Sedoroxnwhit: I remember seeing you saying something like that before... or at least someone else..dunno what ended up with it
05:40.27Inv_arpdont call outbound that much
05:40.36nwhitsedorox:  probably me... are you using the latest cvs?
05:40.49|Vulture|Inv_arp: ah you have a local BV account?
05:40.55Inv_arpheh everyone is shocked how i can chge my callerid on fly  lol
05:41.00Inv_arp|Vulture|: yes
05:41.05Sedoroxhere's a question.. what do you guys recommened for about 3-5 calls in and out... solid.. what kind of BW/internet connection would you recommend?
05:41.09PyroStevehey guys
05:41.13Inv_arpBYOD 5.9h + 1.50 a month
05:41.14|Vulture|Inv_arp: yea CID passing is great
05:41.16PyroStevei have a small problem
05:41.20Sedoroxnwhit: I tried it.. but I had problems with my sip phone.. so I moved back to 1.0.5
05:41.29PyroStevei have a call file that is being created
05:41.35|Vulture|Sedorox: thats my exact setup in 5 offices
05:41.46Sedoroxwhat do you use? T1's?
05:42.01PyroSteveto dial out to the pstn via my sip <-> pstn provider
05:42.05|Vulture|Sedorox: I use 4 POTS and then overflow into VoicePulse
05:42.08nwhitsedorox: thanks
05:42.16mishehuugh.
05:42.20mishehufricking speex
05:42.21Inv_arpbut its hard comming from Linux admin/php to voip phones  so my phreaking grammer isnt to good
05:42.23MrEntropyUAS is the system recieving the call and UAC is the client who made the call, is that correct?
05:42.27Sedoroxnwhit: for what? lol
05:42.36|Vulture|Sedorox: you might be better getting a Fractional T1, 6voice, rest data, bring it into a T100P and have inet and voice for the office
05:42.45Sedoroxyea...
05:42.50PyroSteveand to put the called number in the a context and extension that reads dtmf
05:43.04|Vulture|Inv_arp: don't worry Ive only been at it for 7 or so months and I am still learning
05:43.12PyroSteveit seems like everything works, but asterisk wont detect the dtmf
05:43.16nwhiti'm going to try moving it back... it always seems to give me a fit when I do, though
05:43.17Sedoroxbecause we have staff in the US and CND... so we're look at this as a solution to help.. but just not sure on the BW needs if we have it terminating in one point and to have the other point dial out, w/o there being jitter and stuff
05:43.34Sedoroxnwhit: oh... try installing to a different directory
05:43.39Sedoroxand copying your conf's over
05:43.41mishehuanybody else out here using speex successfully?
05:43.54SedoroxNein here
05:44.06|Vulture|Sedorox: do you have a lot of inter-office dialing, like the office in CDN calling the office in US?
05:44.42Sedoroxnot right now... I mean we do conferences and stuff over it about once a month.. but we're looking to eventually have the tech support calls go anywhere and such
05:44.53Sedoroxso right now.. no.. eventually.. yes
05:45.18Sedoroxand inter-office is the most common right now.. since we only one have pots out in the US and one in cnd
05:45.21|Vulture|Sedorox: prolly cheapest to use a service like Nufone on outbound calls
05:45.30nwhitsedorox:  yeah.. i ran into a library issue I think before
05:45.32mishehudamn, linphone causes asterisk to crash
05:45.36Sedoroxwell yea.. but I'm looking at the pipe I need to the internet to handle this...
05:45.40Sedoroxnwhit: oo ok
05:45.50Groobywazaaaaaa
05:45.53|Vulture|Sedorox: how many calls at once?
05:45.58PyroSteveasterisk wont read dtmf tones from a call that was initially made by a call file
05:46.07Sedoroxmaybe 3-5 on a good day...
05:46.32_VileBierdo, I have 3 lawsuits pending against Qwest atm, I would definitely say I need a better regulator
05:46.33SedoroxI've been thinking what you said.. frac. T1
05:46.43_Vilebut I have to go to bed
05:46.49Sedoroxnight _Vile
05:46.58|Vulture|Sedorox: yea frac t1, ilbc iax2 to voicepulse/nufone... your set
05:47.02_Vileg'night
05:47.08Sedoroxyea
05:47.10|Vulture|got 6 lines on inbound and PLEANTY of bandwidth
05:47.16Sedoroxdo you think isdn would be good too?
05:47.16VaHamishHey, question from the simpleton here.. ;-)
05:47.20Sedoroxhehe
05:47.27SedoroxVaHamish: ok :-p
05:48.03VaHamishI've got my asterisk system set up with a X400p
05:48.07Sedoroxthe main point will probably come in, in CND.. so I'm not sure which would be cheaper. Frac T1 or ISDN...
05:48.13Sedoroxok
05:48.17VaHamishI think that's the card, the one that holds 4 modules.
05:48.24VaHamishI've got an FXO and an FXS..
05:48.33|Vulture|Sedorox: for ilbc you only need like 150k of bandwidth for 6 calls
05:48.40VaHamishand it's configured correctly, I've got a hand set pluged into port 1, and it rings and I can dial with it.
05:48.42Sedoroxkb or kB?
05:48.48VaHamishBut now I want to bridge to an outgoing line.
05:48.51|Vulture|kilobytes
05:48.54Sedoroxkk
05:49.00VaHamishso I've plugged a line from the wall into port 4.
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05:49.15|Vulture|so like a DSL connection would work
05:49.23VaHamishI'm guessing I refer to that port as Zap/4, correct?
05:49.38Sedoroxto dial out of.. yes
05:49.52VaHamishIs there a special wire I need for this, a cross over?
05:49.53Sedorox|Vulture|: is that total? so like 75k in and out?
05:49.59|Vulture|Sedorox: I got it... Frac T1, then split it into half 384k/6lines
05:50.02VaHamishcause I don't get a dial tone, when I dial out.
05:50.10VaHamishThere is a dial tone on the line.
05:50.21|Vulture|Sedorox: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+bandwidth+iax2 check out the case study
05:50.24VaHamishoh, you know maybe the cord I have in there is, a cross over..
05:50.25|Vulture|its pretty accurate
05:50.51SedoroxVaHamish: if your using your phone in the FXS port to dial out of the FXO port.. * will provide the dialtone to the phone
05:50.53Inv_arpwhats a frac t1 go for (south bellsouth mia) these days?
05:50.57Sedorox|Vulture|: thanks
05:50.59|Vulture|just make sure the pipe for VoIP isn't the same pipe for Inet in the office... it can get scary
05:51.08Sedoroxtrying to get different ideas and plans to see which is the best
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05:51.18|Vulture|Inv_arp: bellsouth... they are expensive still
05:51.34Sedoroxyea. I was thinking about splitting a T1 for that.. but I guess maybe cable for inet and a frac t1 for voice
05:51.43Inv_arpfract t1 == frame relay?
05:51.44Sedoroxwell.. voip anyway
05:51.51SedoroxInv_arp: good question...
05:51.56neopheranyone know where the sccp phone firmware is located in cisco callmanager
05:51.56|Vulture|Inv_arp: around $800 for a full T1-Data and like $750 for a full PRI
05:52.24|Vulture|Inv_arp: and in my experience Fract T1s aren't much cheaper than full T1s
05:52.37Sedoroxso it might be better to get a full :-p
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05:53.12Sedoroxstill waiting on the one dude to call Shaw/Telus to see what the going rate for a T1 up there is
05:53.22|Vulture|Sedorox: yea I am not sure what kinda rates you get but ariel_ in miami was talking about a deal for $500 for 6 PRI voice channels and the rest data... thats a nice ass deal
05:53.23Inv_arpbut i can get sdsl atabout same speed for $150 a month  ,  T1 more stable i guess
05:53.48|Vulture|Inv_arp: a lot of times a SDSL connection is just a partial T1
05:53.59Sedoroxhehe
05:54.07Inv_arpahhh
05:54.20Sedoroxbut thats voice in the US.. hehe :-p
05:54.26Sedoroxallwell.. least I know of more options now
05:54.44SedoroxI have a chart here of the prices for a ISDN PRI but.. eh...
05:54.50Sedoroxstil have to look it over.. kinda confusing
05:55.01Sedoroxor seems REALLYY expensive
05:55.08|Vulture|Sedorox: is this in CDN?
05:55.17Sedoroxyea
05:55.18tuxinator_linuxSedorox, I am may be able to help you figure it out
05:55.26Sedoroxtuxinator_linux: mmm ookk
05:55.48|Vulture|they were just talking about this like 30min ago, how CDN has rape you in the ass fixed prices
05:55.50Sedorox|Vulture|: has helped a lot.. just getting different ideas right now to present...
05:56.11Sedoroxhehe
05:56.12Sedoroxyea
05:56.20Sedoroxtuxinator_linux: I don't think I can do anything DCC...
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05:56.47Sedoroxwait.. should be able to.. public ipv6.. hmm.. anyway...
05:57.11|Vulture|whereas I see quotes from clecs being cheap (not always as reliable) and ilec being sometimes close to double the clecs
05:57.22Sedoroxwow..
05:57.24tuxinator_linuxSedorox: I am not sure how else to do a private chat
05:57.29SedoroxPM
05:58.08SedoroxI would like to have us be all VOIP.. and get termination from a voip provider..
05:58.16Inv_arptuxinator_linux:  eg..  /msg person what are you wearing? :)
05:58.37Sedoroxbut I hear it would be cheaper if I got a data-only pipe... so I'm thinking maybe actually have it terminate in the states... with a data-only pipe..
05:58.42tuxinator_linuxthanks Inv
05:58.43Sedoroxbut with CND did's and such...
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05:59.46BeirdoSedorox: where in Canada are you looking for?
05:59.58SedoroxUmm.. Creston BC area...
06:00.06SedoroxI think...
06:00.15Sedoroxhehe
06:00.30bkw_w00t
06:01.03shido6bkw_ u use skinny?
06:01.05shido67920
06:01.08shido67902
06:01.08shido6?
06:01.18Beirdoso that's 604?
06:01.32Sedoroxarea code?
06:01.33Sedorox250...
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06:01.38Beirdo250?
06:01.41Beirdointeresting
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06:01.54Beirdo604 is the old one, I guess they split it?
06:01.57bkw_shido6, no
06:01.59Sedoroxdunno
06:02.06bkw_i wish I was skinny
06:02.07SedoroxI know the land-line and cell is that
06:02.19Sedoroxand its listed on most sites for international calling to canada...
06:03.07neopherbkw: do you happen to know where to look in CCM for fireware files, I have a 30 VIP that i need to upgrade to work with *
06:03.08Beirdothat might be tough to get VOIP terminated DID for
06:03.20Beirdoyou may need to roll your own
06:03.26Sedoroxhmmm
06:03.33BeirdoVancouver, maybe
06:03.42Sedoroxyea.. its close to there..
06:03.46BeirdoCreston's kinda in the middle of nowhere
06:03.51Sedoroxhehe yup :-p
06:03.58BeirdoCreston's a LONG way from Vancouver
06:04.01SedoroxI'm not sure if we're really worried about local calling
06:04.06Beirdolooks to be closer to Calgary :)
06:04.16Sedoroxargh.. thats what I shoulda said. calgary..
06:04.17Sedoroxsorry
06:04.19bkw_ok it makes and takes calls
06:04.21bkw_thats a plus
06:04.35SedoroxI think we're mainly look for a Toll-free CND line.. but eh
06:04.41BeirdoFreeworldtel is based in Edmonton.
06:05.17Sedoroxhmmm
06:05.28Groobyasterisk on ibook
06:05.30Groobyniiiicceeeee
06:05.43Beirdodirect.freeworldtel.com
06:05.56Sedoroxmore or less it comes down to us being a hosting provider and want to have say upto 10 incoming and say 10 outgoing (more realisticly.. 5 each way MAX)
06:06.01Beirdono idea as to quality, etc
06:06.09Sedoroxbut with CND and US dids.. mainly toll free I would assume
06:06.52Beirdobjohnson: you in?
06:07.14SedoroxBeirdo: looks like a good site..
06:07.23Beirdothey list toll-free
06:07.31Beirdodunno if they suck or not though :)
06:07.45Sedoroxyea
06:07.47Sedoroxwell we'll find out
06:07.50Sedoroxthanks for the link :)
06:07.54Beirdobut worth researching.
06:07.54marc32344how many res dids can you load on a T1?  average
06:07.57Beirdono problem
06:07.58Sedoroxbrb
06:08.10Sedoroxdids.. howevery many you want I would assume
06:08.28marc32344no. without running into busy signals]
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06:08.57VaHamishthanks a lot folks, I made real progress tonight...
06:09.12Beirdomarc32344: doing voice to the telco?  23 normal voice channels
06:09.13VaHamishI'm very psyched.
06:09.17VaHamishg'night
06:09.48marc32344beirdo-- how many local customers/t1?
06:10.12Sedoroxhehe
06:10.19Beirdoon a T1, you can use 23 voice calls at a time
06:10.30Beirdoassuming you are doing voice.
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06:10.51marc32344yes. but how many clients can you support, ievonage type
06:11.00Beirdohuh?
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06:11.11NukemizerI am tryin got get Zap/1-1 (the extension)  to dial out using Zap/3-1 ( CO line 1)  and Zap/2-1 to use zap/4-1 I can not seem get the right combination Does anyone have an example I could review
06:11.26Nukemizertrying to get
06:11.49Beirdomarc32344: are you running it in data mode, or voice mode?
06:11.53marc32344voice
06:12.04Beirdothen 23 calls simultaneous max
06:12.08Sedoroxhmmmmmm
06:12.18Beirdohow many more times do I have to say it?
06:12.22marc32344how many mins can you do on a T1?  max capacity is 1M.
06:12.31|Vulture|okay I am back now
06:12.31Beirdomins?
06:12.33Beirdohuh?
06:12.35|Vulture|just testing some stuff :)
06:12.36marc32344minutes
06:12.48Beirdowhat are you talking about?
06:13.15|Vulture|on a T1 you can use 24 lines unless it is a PRI
06:13.15|Vulture|then it is 23
06:13.21marc32344how many calls minutes can you do/month on a T1 PRI?
06:13.30Beirdo|Vulture|: sorry, you are right there :)
06:13.39Beirdohow many minutes are there in a month?
06:13.48tuxinator_linuxIt's unmeeterd
06:13.51tuxinator_linuxusually
06:13.53shido6its highly unlikely you are going to FILL an entire T 24/7
06:13.54|Vulture|marc32344: depends on your plan
06:14.00|Vulture|marc32344: most do a local area, then LD
06:14.04Beirdoyou'd have to look at how the T1 is billed, but usually, it's unmetered last I heard
06:14.16|Vulture|unmetered LD?
06:14.30Beirdono no
06:14.38Sedoroxhehe, it isn't too bad...
06:14.40BeirdoI meant unmetered for local
06:14.41Beirdo<PROTECTED>
06:14.43|Vulture|haha yea I was like where the hell do you guys buy your PRIs
06:14.44marc32344beirdo-- how about busy lines?
06:14.49tuxinator_linuxVulture, sorry came in the middle of that one
06:14.59Beirdowhat do you mean busy lines?
06:15.10marc3234425 concurrent calls
06:15.20|Vulture|marc32344: you mean what happens if you fill 24 lines and someone calls in?
06:15.25marc32344yes
06:15.30Beirdoyou can't peg up a call if the thing's fully used
06:15.58|Vulture|marc32344: depends on you provider
06:16.05|Vulture|some will play "all circuits are busy" other you will get congestion
06:16.14|Vulture|I prefer "all circuits"
06:16.25marc32344how many clients will you run on a single T1 PRI?
06:16.36|Vulture|me?
06:16.48Beirdoyou asked the same damn thing last night did you not? :)
06:17.02marc32344no answer
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06:17.16marc32344like this.
06:17.20|Vulture|lol I was so zoned out last night... damn flu season
06:17.29Beirdoyou would have to determine your call patterns, etc
06:17.29Sedoroxlol
06:17.52Beirdoonce you've done that, you can figure out how many T1s you need to support the calls
06:17.59Beirdojust like you were told the other night
06:18.01|Vulture|marc32344: I will be running 7 offices off a PRI if I can get it done right
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06:18.50|Vulture|but they are small offices, ~5 lines each, and in different time zones, so peek hours change to lighten load
06:19.34marc32344200?
06:20.07BeirdoWTF?
06:20.17Beirdoare you going to listen any time soon?
06:20.39Beirdofigure out the call patterns, and from that determine how much you can put on the T1
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06:21.04EssobiAnyone using a Cisco 2XXX-5XXX router terminating into an * box?
06:21.06Beirdoif you have 200 callers who all want to be on the phone for hours at a time, it ain't gonna work
06:21.14shido6Essobi
06:21.15shido6YES
06:21.26shido6I just helped set one up again
06:21.27EssobiI can't seem to get asterisk to happily accept my 5400 as a peer.
06:21.29Beirdoif they do very little calling, short calls, etc, then maybe
06:21.31marc32344there is a number.  it averages out
06:21.39Beirdoright
06:21.41EssobiI can call out, but my sip.conf entry doesn't seem to be right.
06:21.44shido6if you can wait until the morning I can get the guy to assist
06:21.44SedoroxI have a 2501 but it just sits here....
06:22.03EssobiNah, I was just hoping to get a sip.conf example entry
06:22.03Beirdoso go from the average and worst case call load....  and determine how many T1s you need to support it
06:22.54EssobiIT's wierd.. I can call my 5400 from * and it talks just fine..
06:23.13Essobimy 5400 drops a coll on my * box and it says it's from an unauthed peer
06:23.23|Vulture|brb
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06:26.36Essobiwierd thing is, it'll land in the [default] if I turn on guest mode.
06:26.42Essobibut it won't land on the peer..
06:27.04EssobiHey twisted.. you got an example peer entry for a cisco sip router?
06:29.40shido6http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cisco+FXO
06:29.48shido6thats what I used
06:29.54EssobiI've got it setup exactly like that one.
06:30.05Essobiand it's landing in [default] only when guest it on
06:30.07Essobiis
06:31.31Essobichan_sip.c:8017 handle_request: Failed to authenticate user
06:31.41shido6err K
06:31.44shido6u cant register
06:31.45Essobiheh
06:31.51Essobiumm
06:31.53Essobiit's a peer
06:31.56shido6right
06:32.05|Vulture|k back
06:32.08EssobiI thought peers didn't register
06:32.14shido6right
06:32.15shido6they dont
06:32.17Essobi:|
06:32.27|Vulture|friend
06:32.27EssobiSo wtf is it trying to register for?
06:32.37shido6something is wrong in your setup :)
06:32.40Essobi:P
06:32.41|Vulture|must have register turned on
06:33.10shido6bleh
06:33.11shido6going to bed
06:33.16|Vulture|night shido6
06:34.43Essobi|Vulture| I don't.
06:34.50Essobithat's what's wierd
06:34.55Essobithis shit worked with 1.0
06:35.08Essobi-head broxored it. :)
06:35.11|Vulture|oh you changed nothing.. just version?
06:35.14|Vulture|1.0.5?
06:35.30Essobiyup
06:35.32EssobiFeb 24 01:36:47 NOTICE[18715]: chan_sip.c:8017 handle_request: Failed to authenticate user <sip:1231\
06:35.32Essobi231234@my.ip.5400.ip>
06:35.39EssobiIt's pissing me off. Heh.
06:36.40nwhitYEAH!!!  it works!
06:36.43Essobihttp://www.pastebin.com/245731  <-- My current sip.conf entry for the peer.
06:37.22nwhitouch
06:37.31EssobiMehe.
06:37.51EssobiQuit trying to brighten up my gloomy situation. ;)
06:37.54nwhiti've  been dealing with a problem with the voicemail system for days...
06:38.12nwhitand it works now... I can go home and get some sleep
06:38.19Essobiahh
06:38.20Essobi:)
06:38.26EssobiThose simple times are nice.
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06:40.40EssobiPssh, I really don't want all my inbound sip peers to land in one context and have to send them to the appropriate places.  That's ghetto.
06:41.05Sedoroxfeels like my laptop is going to fry itself :(
06:41.42EssobiQuit sit it on the cisco dust and singe it.
06:41.46Essobiquick even.
06:42.19SedoroxHDD's running ar 140F
06:42.23Sedoroxthats not good...
06:43.42Essobiwow
06:43.44Essobiyea
06:43.49Essobiclean the fan out
06:43.57Essobiand shut off seti
06:44.26Sedoroxlol
06:44.31Sedoroxits my laptop :(
06:44.44Sedoroxthe HDD's are in the front.. and for some reason don't have any vent.
06:44.52Sedoroxand stupid me got the 7200rpm drives and not the 54000
06:44.53Sedorox5400
06:45.15Sedoroxand I had a natural KB sitting on top so I could use that.. stopping airflow over the palm rest.. yea.. bad idea
06:45.23|Vulture|...sleeping pill time :)
06:45.50Sedoroxlol
06:45.52Sedoroxnight :-p
06:45.59|Vulture|takes a bit to kick in
06:46.14|Vulture|damn flu messed me up and i got to take these to sleep
06:46.18SedoroxI should probably head in :-/
06:46.21Sedoroxhmm
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06:46.47marc32344is the govarion cards identical to digium?
06:46.54EssobiFFs this is stupid.
06:46.59shaZwazhi ppl
06:47.30Sedoroxlooks like GSM will be my best bet for iax2 trunking
06:47.33EssobiSedorox yea bad idea
06:47.48Sedoroxjust wish I didn't get the 'machine gun affect' when calling across it with the phones I have
06:47.56Essobinice
06:48.17Essobiw a a a t t t a  a a r r r e y  y y yoooo u u u u do dooo o o o oing
06:48.20Essobijust enunciate
06:48.22|Vulture|Sedorox: why not ilbc?
06:48.23Essobiyou'll be fine
06:48.25Essobi:)
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06:48.35Sedoroxlol
06:48.44|Vulture|<-- ilbc man
06:48.49Sedoroxactually you can't hear anything besides lots o clicking
06:48.50Sedoroxof*
06:48.55SedoroxI noticed :-p
06:49.00SedoroxI haven't tried it yet.. I should
06:49.01Essobidamn
06:49.12Sedoroxhad the problem before.. codec stuff...
06:49.27EssobiPiece of shite cost more then my car.
06:49.28EssobiGRRR.
06:49.31|Vulture|hahaha
06:49.37Sedoroxlol
06:49.52Sedoroxbeen doing that lately
06:50.04Sedorox"yea.. I would like that... wait. I can buy a used car for that.. nvm"
06:50.14EssobiWTF is * tryng to register my 5400 as a sip friend instead of a peer.
06:50.24EssobiGRRR
06:50.25Sedoroxcheck your sip.conf?
06:50.31EssobiAyup.
06:50.46Essobi<Essobi> http://www.pastebin.com/245731  <-- My current sip.conf entry for the peer.
06:51.09EssobiI don't see anything wrong.  I've tweeked and tweeked on it to no avail.
06:51.16EssobiI can dial out the peer all day long.
06:51.19Sedoroxdo you see it listed in 'sip show peers'?
06:51.23EssobiAyup.
06:51.26Essobi:|
06:51.38Sedoroxso which way doesn't work? * -> 5400 or 5400 -> *
06:52.01EssobiI even get the chan_sip.c:8017 handle_request: Failed to authenticate user during sip debug peer as5400-2
06:52.10Essobi* -> 5400 works great
06:52.20Essobi5400 -> * gives the above
06:52.32Sedoroxis that all your seeing?
06:52.36Essobionly way I can get it to work is to use the allow guest thing
06:52.54Essobithen land all of the 5X00s into a default context
06:52.58Essobiwhich sucks
06:53.10Sedoroxsounds like a config issue on the 5400
06:53.26EssobiI copied the FXO settings above.
06:53.27Essobi:|
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06:53.36Essobifrom voip-info
06:53.52Essobipisser is it WAS working.. and -head broxored it.
06:53.54EssobiGRRR.
06:54.03Sedoroxtry adding username=<something>
06:54.10Sedoroxand using that username in the register from the 5400
06:54.26Sedorox-head broke a lot of sip stuff for me
06:54.30Sedoroxhence why I went back to 1.0.5
06:54.41EssobiNo shit? :|
06:54.44shaZwazback to 1.0.5 ?
06:54.50Sedoroxfrom cvs-head
06:54.55shaZwazsounds like back to future
06:54.57Sedoroxwe.. whatever the latest is I pulled...
06:54.59Sedoroxlol
06:55.07EssobiI'm thinking about it.. I really want to use the new spandsp thou.
06:55.19Sedoroxdunno what to tell ya
06:55.20Essobiand I heard it would only build on -head.
06:55.27Essobi*SIGH*
06:55.47shaZwazspandsp :-/
06:56.08EssobiWell damnit.
06:56.17Essobisomeone fix -head
06:56.27Sedoroxlol
06:58.07Sedoroxhow does this sound:
06:58.27Sedoroxfor a US50/Canada Toll Free Number: $2.49/month and $.03/min
06:58.42|Vulture|nice
06:58.48Sedoroxand either...
06:59.08|Vulture|thats a great deal, but I think nufone does offer it for .02/min but more /month
06:59.58Sedorox$2.49/month + $.02/min for US did.., $4.50/month+$0.02/min for CND did, (Unlimited incoming)
07:00.03viLeRSomebody have a Iptables script that works with Ata Behind Nat ?
07:00.15Sedoroxor $10.49/month for unlimited
07:00.20Sedoroxwith unlimited incoming
07:00.28Inv_arpviLeR: a scipt to do what? f
07:00.38Sedoroxon the above planes.. unlimited inbound channels
07:00.46Sedoroxnot minutes
07:01.10SedoroxThis is FreeWorldTel someone pointed me to
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07:01.16Sedoroxdoesn't seem too bad
07:01.17pashahhi!
07:01.27pashahSedorox: url?
07:02.05Sedoroxhttp://direct.freeworldtel.com/
07:02.25Sedoroxapparently thats for IP solution providers and stuff.. but I think I could use it for the biz I'm doing.. dunnon
07:02.43viLeRInv_arp: for rtp stream
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07:02.58marc32344what is the difference between govarion and digium cards?
07:02.59BeirdoI'm sure unlimited really isn't unlimited
07:03.33SedoroxUnlimited Plan DIDs:
07:03.33SedoroxUnlimited Rate: $10.49 per month with unlimited incoming minutes.
07:03.43|Vulture|Sedorox: nice prices
07:03.51Sedoroxyea...
07:03.54Beirdoahhh, incoming
07:03.56Beirdoduh
07:04.21Sedoroxyea.. the other plans.. like per-minute ones
07:04.27Sedoroxhad unlimited channels
07:04.29Sedoroxnot minutes
07:04.30Sedorox:-p
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07:09.26BeirdoSedorox: where are the plans shown?
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07:12.31scythelxhello all, does iaxtel work still?
07:13.01RestLessGeminiwell yes! i guess
07:13.16scythelxhmm strange
07:13.22elricdecent IAX hard phones are hard to find though
07:13.32scythelxwell
07:13.34scythelxExecuting Dial("SIP/bethos.sales-724f", "IAX2/kknott:biff2baff@iaxtel.com/17004286161@iaxtel") in new stack
07:13.54Beirdoway to give everyone your password
07:13.56SedoroxBeirdo: I signed up for a account... its free to sign up
07:13.59RestLessGeminilol
07:14.01Sedoroxlol
07:14.10scythelxi dont care
07:14.12scythelxim just testing it
07:14.12Sedoroxsounds like me....
07:14.15Beirdoand it shows the plans after you login?
07:14.16scythelxAuto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/bethos.sales-c31b' status is 'CONGESTION'
07:14.26Sedorox# Quotes:                                                  *
07:14.26Sedorox* Jul 11 23:20:14 <worth> Linux kernel: Free,              #
07:14.26Sedorox# GNOME Desktop: Free, X-chat: Free, Posting a             *
07:14.26Sedorox* screenshot with your IRC password in it so everyone      #
07:14.26Sedorox# can see it: Priceless                                    *
07:14.26RestLessGeminiyeah he can signup for another.. its FREE
07:14.27Sedorox* (Yes, he's referring to Me)                              #
07:14.45SedoroxBeirdo: when you go to the did's page, it tell you under them the price
07:15.08Beirdoahhh, after you sign up
07:15.10Sedoroxthen you can add funds or what not to get the dids..
07:15.10Sedoroxyea
07:15.24Sedoroxand its iax too :-p
07:15.25scythelxwould ser somehow mess it up? its sip phone -> ser -> asterisk -> iaxtel
07:15.28Beirdodo they list the prices for 800 in tehre?
07:15.34Sedoroxyea
07:15.34Sedoroxhere
07:15.54SedoroxRandom Toll-Free DID:
07:15.54SedoroxRandom Toll-Free Rates:
07:15.54SedoroxUS48: $1.50/per month, and 2.2?/min.
07:15.54SedoroxUS50/Canada: $2.49/month, and 3?/min.
07:15.55Beirdoin particular, US50/CDN toll free :)
07:16.02Beirdowow
07:16.07Beirdothat's pretty good
07:16.09SedoroxFor vanity toll-free numbers and 1-900 services, please contact support for details.
07:16.12Sedoroxhehe
07:16.27Sedoroxyea.. I forget who told me about it.. I'll look above...
07:16.31BeirdoI could care less what toll free number I'd get
07:16.33Sedoroxbut thats the one thing with me is CND dids..
07:16.36Sedoroxyea.. same here
07:16.37BeirdoI did :)
07:16.39Beirdohehe
07:16.41Sedoroxoh
07:16.42Sedoroxlol
07:16.43Sedorox:-p
07:16.44Sedoroxthought so
07:16.49Beirdobut I didn't know the toll-free rates
07:17.09Sedoroxyea.. if you signup (it is free) it tells you under the did selection
07:17.16Sedoroxand they have a pretty good selection too
07:17.52Beirdois that US$ or CDN$?  (not that there's much difference these days)
07:18.01SedoroxUS I'm sure
07:18.10Beirdoeither way
07:18.10Sedoroxand apparently their server is in TX
07:18.11Beirdonice
07:18.27Sedoroxbecause when you select for the iax registration.. it has to pick th server.. only one is in TX
07:18.47Beirdohehe
07:18.52Sedoroxbut.. can't do iax register till funds are in your account :-p
07:19.01Beirdo:)
07:19.36Beirdoso once I get paid...  I'll be setting up nufone and them, likely
07:19.56Sedoroxhehe
07:20.02SedoroxI'm gonna talk to the owner about this
07:20.05Sedoroxsee what we can do...
07:20.15Beirdoowner of?
07:20.19Sedoroxdo some calcs from the page |Vulture| sent me on our bandwitdh costs
07:20.24Sedoroxthe company I work with
07:20.28Sedoroxthats doing all this
07:20.28Sedoroxhehe
07:20.29Beirdoahhh
07:20.55Beirdofor me it'd just be for me :)
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07:21.06Sedoroxyea
07:21.12SedoroxI would love to talk my mom into it for at home
07:21.17Sedoroxget a small asterisk box setup
07:21.26Sedoroxand get a fxs card for the cordless's
07:21.35Sedoroxerrr... TDM400
07:21.40Beirdoyeah
07:21.45BeirdoTDM22P
07:21.48Sedoroxw/e
07:21.48BeirdoB
07:21.48Sedorox:-p
07:21.50Beirdodammit
07:21.51Beirdo:)
07:22.03Sedoroxor maybe a two port sipura
07:22.05Sedoroxbut anyway
07:22.05Beirdo2 FXO, 2 FXS
07:22.13Beirdoand then a sipura or two :)
07:22.15Beirdoheh
07:22.16Sedoroxwell I would only need fxs's at that poiint.. but yea
07:22.27Beirdoand a WiSIP would be so sweet
07:22.38Sedoroxhave to do calc first on BW.. since we only have cable
07:22.40Sedoroxhehe, yes it would
07:22.46Beirdoalthough they likely suck rocks
07:22.53Sedoroxwhy's that?
07:23.06BeirdoI dunno, cheaply made or something
07:23.12BeirdoI'd have to try one :)
07:23.18Sedoroxlol
07:24.10SedoroxI would like to get signed up now and try this out.. but eh... I don't have the money.. and I'm not doing anything w/o the OK
07:24.10Sedorox:-p
07:24.48Sedoroxwe pay I think $8/gig a month for BW... so...
07:24.52Beirdowell, I'm in the unenviable position of not having been paid for 7 weeks
07:24.54Beirdogrrr
07:25.02Sedorox:(:(:(
07:25.09SedoroxI don't have a job.. so.. it sucks. big time
07:25.17Beirdoonce I get paid, I'll be spending
07:25.18Beirdo:)
07:25.21Sedoroxlol
07:25.32Sedoroxonce I start getting paid again (waiting to hear back from a few places)
07:25.34SedoroxI'll be saving
07:25.36BeirdoI put $10 into voipjet for the meantime
07:25.41Sedoroxthink my car is starting to go.. so..
07:25.43Sedoroxhehe
07:26.03Beirdoneeded something for now
07:26.08Sedoroxyup
07:26.12Sedoroxwell I got my cellphone
07:26.20Beirdoand although their service is somewhat crappy at times, it's cheeeep
07:26.37SedoroxI really wish they made one of those jacks that you can plug your cellphone into and it rings a housephone for the i730.. would hook it into asterisk
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07:26.40Sedoroxhehe
07:26.51Beirdohehe
07:26.51Sedoroxwb
07:27.09BeirdoI have been half considering pricing a cellular fixed station
07:27.10Beirdohehe
07:27.12Sedoroxthey have it for like every model.. BUT the nextel ones...
07:27.16Sedoroxlol
07:27.29Sedoroxof the motorola line anyway
07:27.45BeirdoI think my mike phone is an i730 too
07:27.59SedoroxCanada.. probably
07:28.08Beirdoyes
07:28.17Beirdosame thing as Neztel
07:28.28Sedoroxis it silver with a color screen, where the display it at the top, near the ant, not at the bottom?
07:28.35Beirdoyep
07:28.43Beirdocompany phone
07:28.45Sedoroxyea.. I know.. was trying to talk my friend into getting it hwen I got nextel.. because you can use Direct Connect accross
07:28.50Sedoroxyea.. i730
07:28.53Beirdogreat for 2-way :)
07:28.54Sedoroxmine's black.. but same phone
07:28.57SedoroxI love it...
07:29.12SedoroxI got it because of my g/f having netel (parents family plan) and my church...
07:29.27SedoroxI use like 100-200mins a month on the DC
07:29.27Beirdoahh
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07:30.11Sedoroxdon't have too much reception problems either.. 'cept for here in the dorm. so I got one of those car magnet ant's and stick it out my window. and all is good
07:30.20Beirdohehe
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07:30.30Beirdoit works pretty much everywhere here
07:30.38Graphikosis GSM a crappy codec or what?
07:30.39Sedoroxthe concrete walls don't help.. when the main station is on the other side of the building I'm on...
07:30.46Beirdoexcept in the elevator in the condo building at home
07:30.46SedoroxI don't think so Graphikos
07:30.50Sedoroxwell yea...
07:30.56GraphikosI didn't think so either..
07:31.01Beirdoworks great in the elevator at work
07:31.09Graphikoshaveing quality issues between locations...
07:32.15SedoroxGraphikos: could be other things like BW too.... try a different codec and see if you have the same problem
07:32.45Graphikoshard to think its BW... and we did try a ulaw codec... *siigh*
07:33.33Sedoroxdon't use ulaw
07:33.38Sedoroxthats high BW consuming :-;p
07:33.47Graphikoswell it actually sounded better than GSM
07:34.05Sedoroxwel yea.. it will...
07:34.17Graphikosits probably our method...
07:34.19Sedoroxtry ILBC...
07:34.20Sedoroxulaw...
07:34.22Sedoroxer
07:34.23Sedoroxalaw
07:34.35Graphikosdoing this thru a VPN.. which we should probably throw in another PBX
07:34.42Sedorox<PROTECTED>
07:36.00Graphikosoh well.. figgure it out eventually I guess...
07:36.48Sedoroxjust try different ones and see what works best for you.. thats my suggestion anyway
07:36.58SedoroxI'm sure someone else will say otherwise
07:37.40Graphikosthanks. ;)
07:38.31Sedoroxyup
07:48.53Sedoroxturning in
07:48.53Sedoroxnight
07:48.59Graphikosnite
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07:55.43kamranhi
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07:57.52kamranany one know how to call one application from other application
07:58.33kamran<PROTECTED>
07:58.33kamran> DialApp = pbx_findapp("Dial");
07:58.33kamran>
07:58.33kamran> int ret=0;
07:58.33kamran> if (app)
07:58.34kamran> {
07:58.35kamran> ret = pbx_exec(chan, DialApp, "SIP/2000", 1);
07:58.37kamran> }
07:58.39kamran> else
07:58.41kamran> {
07:58.43kamran> }
08:04.12kamranhello developers
08:05.18libpcphi guys
08:08.55libpcpif im installing TE405P on my asterisk, do i need a working ISDN line to my ISDN carrier before I can test the zaptel and zapata.conf?
08:09.23kamranis there any developer on this list
08:09.33RestLessGeminilibpcp: No. i dont think so
08:09.51RestLessGeminijust make zaptel and zapata.conf entries and you are done
08:12.11libpcpRestLessGemini: eventhough i dont have a real line of ISDN?
08:12.49libpcpi tried to configure zaptel and zapate.conf but when i tried to start my asterisk i got an error: Feb 24 16:19:02 WARNING[8663]: Ignoring switchtype
08:13.00libpcpFeb 24 16:19:02 ERROR[8663]: Unknown signalling method 'pri_cpe'
08:14.10RestLessGeminiwell yeah .. actually zaptel and zapata.conf only care for TE405P, i've never installed one but its default behaviour .. if i am not mistaking
08:15.15libpcpRestLessGemini: so i really need to have a working line of ISDN before I could use the config of zapata and zaptel right?
08:16.01RestLessGeminiwell take a look here http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Asterisk+config+zapata.conf&diff=12
08:17.50TheEmperorhello, can anyone tell me how to get callerid show to me on my softphone when i am being called? :)
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08:20.13RestLessGeminilibpcp : also check switchtypes
08:20.16RestLessGemini-; Switchtype: Only used for PRI.
08:20.16RestLessGemini-;
08:20.16RestLessGemini-; national: National ISDN 2 (default)
08:20.16RestLessGemini-; dms100: Nortel DMS100
08:20.16RestLessGemini-; 4ess: AT&T 4ESS
08:20.17RestLessGemini-; 5ess: Lucent 5ESS
08:20.19RestLessGemini-; euroisdn: EuroISDN
08:20.21RestLessGemini-; ni1: Old National ISDN 1
08:20.35RestLessGeminiand
08:20.37RestLessGemini-; PRI Dialplan: Only RARELY used for PRI.
08:20.38RestLessGemini-;
08:20.38RestLessGemini-; unknown: Unknown
08:20.38RestLessGemini-; private: Private ISDN
08:20.38RestLessGemini-; local: Local ISDN
08:20.38RestLessGemini-; national: National ISDN
08:20.40RestLessGemini-; international: International ISDN
08:20.42RestLessGemini-;
08:20.44RestLessGemini-;pridialplan=national
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08:22.10libpcpyeah i have that settings
08:22.18libpcpim using euroisdn
08:24.30RestLessGeminisignalling=pri_net
08:24.44RestLessGeminibrb
08:25.36RestLessGeminiyou are also see this doc http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current/docs-html/x842.html
08:25.37RestLessGeminibrb
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08:51.18RoyKSIP/1000052-fad1<ZOMBIE>  (queue-ks   s            1   )      Up Queue         briiz-customerservice|t|||0
08:51.19RoyKwtf?
08:51.27shaZwazhi RoyK
08:51.59RoyKhi
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08:53.00JerJeris it just me or is slashdot's site all screwy?
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08:54.47RoyKJerJer: fsckedup from here
08:55.05RoyKpossibly slashdotted
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09:08.20amerok here is what I have
09:08.54amerSIP proxy --------- Asterisk------------ SoftSwitch-------TDM
09:10.28amerWhen I get a call from SIP proxy I can see that the from field in SIP header is correct but when asterisk fwds the call to the SSW it changes the from field and outs "asterisk" instead of the actual user who made the call
09:10.37amerhow can I fix this?
09:12.08amerSIP proxy from: "1408XXXXXXX" <sip"1408XXXXXXX@x.x.x.x>;tag=bla bla bla
09:12.08RoyKSetCallerID?
09:12.09RoyK:P
09:12.20amerthat doesn't work
09:13.07amerAsterisk from: ""1408XXXXXXX" <sip"asterisk@x.x.x.a>;tag bla bla
09:14.03amermy softswitch gets confused and sets the callerID to asterisk and here callerName is not supported so I get 00000 on Landlines and cell phones
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09:15.40amerhave I made myself clear
09:16.11RoyKI don't know, sorry
09:16.19amernp
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09:20.59shaZwazanyone tried the latest cvs head ?
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09:37.11pashahshaZwaz: somebody had problems today with it
09:39.37LenzXhello, I need somebody who can call me via IAX or FWD - I changed the setup and I am not sure everything still works :-)
09:42.03xpashaanybody could say why I have this? ->
09:42.03xpasha<PROTECTED>
09:42.04xpashaJan 26 07:31:39 WARNING[16579]: chan_zap.c:9608 setup_zap: Ignoring faxdetection
09:42.04xpashaJan 26 07:31:39 ERROR[16579]: chan_zap.c:9429 setup_zap: Unknown signalling method 'pri_cpe'
09:42.16xpashalibpri is compiled and installed
09:44.02shaZwazpashah: what sort of ?
09:46.53pashahshaZwaz: do not remember
09:46.56ZeeekLenzX you can call yourself on FWD or use the web phone booth have it call you
09:47.30amerSIP proxy --------- Asterisk------------ SoftSwitch-------TDM
09:47.33amermy softswitch gets confused and sets the callerID to asterisk and here callerName is not supported so I get 00000 on Landlines and cell phones
09:47.33shaZwazZeeek there is one Call me serivce too
09:47.39amerWhen I get a call from SIP proxy I can see that the from field in SIP header is correct but when asterisk fwds the call to the SSW it changes the from field and outs "asterisk" instead of the actual user who made the call
09:48.01amerSIP proxy from: "1408XXXXXXX" <sip"1408XXXXXXX@x.x.x.x>;tag=bla bla bla
09:48.04amerAsterisk from: ""1408XXXXXXX" <sip"asterisk@x.x.x.a>;tag bla bla
09:48.39shaZwazpashah: wanna know if it is related to jitter buffer
09:48.46shaZwazanyway thanks
09:48.56Zeeekthat's the "phone booth"
09:49.19LenzXZeex: where do I find the phone booth?
09:49.27Zeeekhttp://www.freeworlddialup.com/content/view/sitemap/2
09:49.27Zeeekhttp://www.freeworlddialup.com/support/configuration_guide
09:49.27Zeeekhttp://www.freeworlddialup.com/advanced/iax
09:49.27Zeeekhttp://www.freeworlddialup.com/support/forum
09:49.27Zeeekhttp://www.freeworlddialup.com/advanced/service_numbers
09:49.34Zeeekcheck that stuff
09:50.30LenzXZeex: I already checked, but I did not see such a service. I tried the 55555 but there's nobody on.
09:51.52LenzXanyway I tried to call me back and it worked. Sorry
09:51.58Zeeekwhat did you check - the answer is on the first page up there
09:52.43LenzXoh yes, I found it. never logged on :-)
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10:03.20Zeeekseek and ye shall run out of disk space
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10:11.25nicoxHello
10:11.44Zeeekgood morning
10:11.45nicoxDo anyone knows something about Asterisk_Realtime?
10:11.56nicoxgood morning
10:13.21RestLessGeminiShoot your Question nicox... I am sure more then 60% ppl sitting here knows about it
10:13.40RoyKnicox: see the wiki
10:13.42ZeeekI don't
10:13.59Zeeek~lart RoyK
10:14.00RoyK~lart Zeeek
10:14.22Zeeekthat's the worst lart I've ever seen, Outlook Express !
10:14.30RoyK:)
10:14.44Zeeekgo ahead and shoot me!
10:14.49RoyK~lart Zeeek
10:15.02Zeeekanything but OE or Outlook
10:15.21RoyKnetcat
10:15.22ZeeekI spent two hours converting an Outlook message file to be importaed by Thunderbird
10:15.31nicoxokay, i have an asterisk server running with ast_data with one simple problem: Sip over nat! there is no chance to do it, that says wiki and all people, is this problem solved in asterisk_realtime?
10:15.44RoyKnat=yes
10:15.45Zeeekin fact, you can't import or convert an Outlook message file unless you have.... Outlook!
10:16.33Zeeekno good, the file is encrypted!!!
10:16.45RoyKZeeek: in fact, the easiest way to convert from outlook is an external imap account :P
10:17.00Zeeeknicox : http://willypick.mindsay.com/?entry=10
10:17.05nicox<PROTECTED>
10:17.18Zeeekyes but this was a file sent by an attorney via email att.
10:17.40RoyK~time
10:17.40jbotextra, extra, read all about it, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting
10:17.48RoyK~time cet
10:17.49Zeeekasking the atty for a different format, even if he knew how, would cost at least $25-$50
10:18.00Zeeek~date
10:18.01jbotThu Feb 24 10:18:01 2005
10:18.08Zeeeknyuk, nyuk
10:18.30RoyK~date cet
10:18.40Zeeek~yermutha cet
10:18.47RoyK:)
10:20.05Zeeekapparently she's not
10:20.23Zeeekseems to be GMT
10:20.31Zeeek~EST
10:20.32jboti guess est is Eastern Standard Time, but if you're outside of Indiana you probably need to use EST5EDT instead, or US/Eastern, or (use the tzconfig program to do this)
10:22.33amer~who
10:27.02RoyK~fsck Zeeek
10:27.04jbote2fsck /dev/Zeeek : warning! filesystem contains dickheads!
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10:27.11RoyKlol
10:28.13Zeeekerrrrr.... wait a minute
10:28.34Zeeekjust a fscking minute
11:02.50Zeeekno wonder he weighs so much
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11:34.00tzafrircan't mozilla/win32 import from outlook? (not that I really care)
11:37.45libpcpi would like to ask what is the correct pinning of cable for TE410P ?
11:41.43Zeeekyes as long as you have outlook
11:41.56Zeeekfucking Outlook can't be read without Outlook
11:42.23ZeeekSo if anyoine ever needs to read one of these .pst files to recover mail, they're fscked!
11:42.32ZeeekGood to know
11:42.42Zeeekeven if you don't care :)
11:44.39Zeeekare nufone tollfree DID free for Canadians too? (866) I'm guessing not from what I read about CA
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11:50.22DaminIt sucks getting up early..
11:54.05fileDamin: no sleep for you!
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12:03.42djinZeeek, there are pst -> mbox converters.
12:05.47libpcpif im going to add an TE410P E1 card to my existing asterisk box, what driver do i need to use?
12:06.10djinzaptel
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12:06.41djindo you already have digium hardware in your machine, or ztdummy?
12:07.11djinthen just 'modprobe wct4xxp'
12:11.41libpcpif i do make install on zaptel directory, do i need to recompile the asterisk source again?
12:12.13libpcpdjin: the TE410P is already plugged-in to my asterisk machine
12:12.24Zeeekdjin - yes but they REQUIRE Outlook to work - I downloaded them all
12:12.24libpcpdjin: do i need the libpri?
12:12.38ZeeekI've never seen a situation like that before
12:12.51Zeeekthe converters use MAPI interface
12:15.30MrEntropyhehehe...did slashdot get 0wn3d or something?
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12:27.35RestLessGeminilibpcp: yes you need to recompile asterisk source again
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12:31.26hekaHello, is there any callback implementation with asterisk
12:31.27heka?
12:31.48RoyKit's possible via the manager interface
12:32.46hekaRoyK: was your last message for me?
12:33.02RoyKheka: yep
12:33.25hekaRoyK: is there any documentation on how to do that ?
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12:33.45Delvarheka: yes asterisk can do callback, look on voip-info.org im sure thers a lot of info
12:33.50RoyKheka: see the wiki. there's something there
12:34.36hekaI did a search but I didnt get any interesting
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12:38.11JunK-Yhttp://slashdot.org/ is odd today :(
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12:44.20stypjanhi all
12:44.35stypjansorry to barge in, but I got a quick question re: extensions.
12:44.48stypjanHow can I send a certain CLI to an upstream server?
12:45.14stypjanie, anything that I dial with 09 at the front get's sent to server x.y.z with caller ID 09231515125(example)
12:47.47djindjin: do i need the libpri? -> yes
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12:52.23JunK-Ymakes everything going to the same server, and with _09X. goes to ur 2nd server.
12:55.45stypjanyeah, i got that bit
12:55.45ZeeekThe dialplan is the heart of an Asterisk system, as it defines how Asterisk should handle calls.
12:55.45Zeeekhttp://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current_v1/docs-html_one/vm1.html#AEN650
12:55.55stypjanbut I want to know, if I can "fool" the other server into thinking that i'm calling from 5551234
12:56.19Zeeeksetcalleridnum()
12:57.03stypjaneh?
12:57.27Zeeektry this from the CLI: show applications
12:58.15stypjanaah, Zeeek: you talking about this?
12:58.15stypjan<PROTECTED>
12:58.35Zeeekstypjan - as I said, look at the list of applications
12:58.50Zeeekthen read the ones that talk about what interests you
13:00.24stypjanokay, this is all new to me, just when i thought my n00bness was waring off
13:00.39stypjanbut eh, where do I use this application? I got this far
13:00.50stypjanasterisk*CLI> show application  SetCallerID
13:00.50stypjanasterisk*CLI>
13:00.50stypjan<PROTECTED>
13:00.50stypjan[Synopsis]:
13:00.50stypjanSet CallerID
13:00.51stypjan[Description]:
13:00.53stypjan<PROTECTED>
13:00.53Zeeekin that case check off the items you've already read:
13:00.55stypjanvalue.  Sets ANI as well if a flag is used.  Always returns 0
13:00.56ZeeekStarter tutorial:
13:00.56Zeeekhttp://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html
13:00.56Zeeekhttp://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html
13:00.56Zeeekhttp://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm
13:00.56ZeeekTHE reference of the moment:
13:00.57Zeeekhttp://www.asteriskdocs.org
13:01.07stypjanlol
13:01.27Zeeekif you have read any two of the above you would know
13:02.00stypjanmmm
13:02.19Zeeekthe read of pride would be more useful
13:02.55stypjani'm busy walking towards the read of pride ;)
13:03.01stypjanthanks for the kick in the right direction
13:03.06Zeeekheh
13:03.15Zeeekthe kick on IRC is pretty blodless :)
13:03.46stypjani like my ass bloodless, so irc is better
13:03.50RoyK~lart Zeeek
13:04.02Zeeekdon't start that agian!
13:04.09RoyK:)
13:04.28Zeeekcount to ten in norwegian or something
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13:07.46fishboy1669hi there
13:07.53Zeeekfishy!
13:08.12djinZeeek, getting back @ outlook conversions.
13:08.15fishboy1669anyone know how to remove the message "asterisk" when dialing in from a restricted no cli zap channel?
13:08.20fishboy1669hi zeek hows things
13:08.21fishboy1669?
13:08.23djinDid you ever check Outport (http://outport.sourceforge.net/)?
13:08.43fishboy1669i want to change it to say "withheald number"
13:08.55fishboy1669its on a zap channel
13:08.58Zeeekdjin I tried 'em all
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13:09.22Zeeekfish I think you can do that in sip.conf
13:09.27djinZeeek, really, really all? :)
13:09.31GodThorwhat this mean: wrapendpoint.cxx:915: error: 'class H323AudioCodec' has no member named 'IsDescendant' ????
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13:09.36fishboy1669any idea how?
13:09.40Zeeeki think so - I googled for hours and hours and hours
13:10.15Zeeekbut the fact is, I stopped because I had Outlook at the office. I just did it there, direct import to Thunderbird and zipped that to my son who needed it
13:10.25GodThorwhen i build asterisk-oh
13:10.43Zeeekfish I think there is a line to add in sip.conf - I *think*
13:12.07Zeeekwhat if you do a setcalleridname when there is none? That's what I did
13:12.52fishboy1669cheers zeek
13:13.12GodThoranyone?
13:13.13hekaanybody know any good howto for making a callback system with asterisk?
13:14.15Zeeekyou get it fishboy1669 ?
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13:18.01fishboy1669not yet
13:18.16fishboy1669im reading up on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+zapata.conf
13:18.28fishboy1669usecallerid etc
13:18.30Zeeekyou do an If( callerid == '')
13:18.35Zeeekexcept that isn't the syntax
13:18.46Zeeekand if it's blank you do a setcalleridname
13:18.48fishboy1669but thats in zapata.conf
13:18.59fishboy1669aha i see where your comming from
13:19.01Zeeekthat would be in extensions
13:19.21ZeeekI thought there was an assignment possible to replace "Asterisk" though
13:19.26Zeeekand there may be
13:19.33Zeeekor change it in the source
13:19.47fishboy1669but would callerid = '' be right as what would get passed would probably be callerid = 'asterisk' ???
13:19.47Zeeekyou can change UserAgent for example in sip.conf
13:20.13Zeeekno not if I understand you, which I am not sure to be doing
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13:20.42fishboy1669what u say makes sence
13:20.53Zeeekwait I'll get the lines
13:20.54RGi_Hi.. I have a litle strange problem with Silence supression and music on hold... when I put someone on hold and Asterisk plays music on hold to them I have the problem with silence suppression that asterisk wont send packets out to the client that is lisening to the MOH. but.. I only get that problem when I use MOH.. not with regular speach and voice conversations.. any ideas ?
13:21.13fishboy1669i have an incoming call from pstn on a x100p zap channel but the cli is withheald so the cli on the phone is "asterisk"
13:21.41fishboy1669RGi check your codecs
13:21.56fishboy1669i think u have to use certain codecs for moh
13:22.22fishboy1669or have the g729 lics for the codec conversion
13:22.33Zeeekfishboy this is with number but it would work with name as well:
13:22.35Zeeekexten => s,3,GotoIf($[X${CALLERIDNUM} !=  X]?5)
13:22.35Zeeekexten => s,4,SetCIDNum(${CALLERIDNUM})
13:22.57RGi_fishboy1669 :ahh !! thanx ! I`l look into that ! :D
13:23.49Zeeekwait that doesn't look right
13:24.12Zeeekhere it is
13:24.13Zeeekexten => s,4,GotoIf($[X${CALLERIDNUM} !=  X]?s,6)
13:24.13Zeeekexten => s,5,SetCIDNum(0000)
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13:25.05fishboy1669cheers zeek
13:25.43didz_anyone knows whats happening for a "m" DTMF ??? --------- >   DTMF digit: m on Zap/1-1
13:27.23fishboy1669zeeek heres is someone else suggestion edit chan_sip.c in channels dir and change Asterisk and asterisk with whatever you want .. and then recompile it .. it will solve your problem
13:27.49Zeeekexten => s,4,GotoIf($[X${CALLERIDNUM} !=  X]?s,6)why would I wanna do that?
13:27.58Zeeekdamn paste
13:28.12fishboy1669?
13:28.24fishboy1669what is worng with it?
13:28.50Zeeekwhy would I want to screw around modifying source? I'd have to change it again when I upgrade (if I ever do)
13:29.04fishboy1669true
13:29.16Zeeekanyway, you asked... there is one way
13:29.25fishboy1669im thinking using your plan first as i dont wanna bring the cust pbx down
13:29.32fishboy1669its only just been in stalled
13:29.40fishboy1669yours is safer method
13:29.46Zeeekthat would tend to sap confidence
13:29.58fishboy1669exactly
13:30.34fishboy1669sorry if i offended u pasting the other method up just thought u may be interested in it i wasnt slating your effort in giving me a solution
13:31.11fishboy1669hope u r cool
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13:33.09fishboy1669zeeek u still speaking to me?
13:34.53fishboy1669zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
13:35.06fishboy1669im worried i have offended u :(
13:35.13Zeeekfish no the "damn paste" was ME I pasted the stupid thing by accident
13:35.24Zeeekno other than the fishy smell
13:35.41fishboy1669oh so what is the correct method then
13:35.42ZeeekI am not offened
13:35.54Zeeekor even effended
13:36.16Zeeekcorrect methond of what? I pasted by accident and was frustrated
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13:36.43GMsofthi
13:36.44fishboy1669?so which is the right code from the stuff u pasted
13:37.03GMsoftdoes external serial isdn works with chan_modem ?
13:37.44ManxPowerGMsoft, Generally no.
13:38.45GMsoftany doc about this somewhere ? like supported models and co ?
13:39.33ManxPowerGMsoft, no.  chan_modem is pretty much unsupported and undocumented.  Buy a cheap ISDN card if you are not in the USA/CA
13:40.13GMsoftok. tnx
13:40.16ManxPowerRumor is that the chan_modem* was written over spring break by a bunch of geeks with too much beer and two few girls and has not been touched since.
13:40.29GMsoftheh
13:41.00ManxPowerGMsoft, You can assume you can't do anything with aterisk with a modem on a serial port.
13:41.27e3eli3hFXO won't answer incoming calls and I'm suffering from the "Ring/Off-hook in starnge state 6 on channel n" syndrome. Anyone out there who can help me?
13:41.28GMsoftok. that was my guess but Ihad some hope :)
13:41.37Groobyso chan_modem was written by those 2 girls while the geeks were drinking beer?
13:41.52ManxPowere3eli3h, callprogress=no  busydetect=no in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
13:42.04e3eli3hthey are there
13:42.27ManxPowere3eli3h, analog FXO?
13:42.36e3eli3hyes. TDM13B.
13:42.56ManxPowere3eli3h, the only other thing I can think of is that you have Ringmaster/Distinctive Ring on the line.
13:43.36e3eli3hi can get it to ring an internal grandstream phone with my extensions file, but when i pick up the handset it just keeps ringing
13:43.49ManxPowerAh.  You are a newbie.
13:43.52ManxPower~docs
13:43.53jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
13:44.13e3eli3hbeen through all of them. i'm into my second week or reading docs.
13:44.21e3eli3hextensively!
13:45.36e3eli3hsecond week of reading docs that is
13:45.57GMsoftmhh besides the fact that most pstn (yes pstn this time :) modems doesn't provide full duplex voice, would such support be easily codable/fixable in chan_modem or whatever ?
13:46.33ManxPowerGMsoft, even the ones that DO support full duplex, the APIs are secret.
13:46.54ManxPowerThey are designed for voicemail, which doesn't care if you have 100ms latency.
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13:47.01ManxPower..er...1000ms
13:47.14GMsoftyeah. my next question would have been about the documentation of all this stuff :)
13:47.17GMsoftah k
13:47.17GMsofttoo bad
13:47.50Zeeek100ms is GOOD
13:47.56GMsoftI think I'll buy one 3fxs+1fxo tdm400 :)
13:48.04ZeeekI WISH I had 100ms
13:48.20GMsoft:)
13:48.25ManxPowerZeeek, 100ms latency between the PC and a local FXO/FXS device sucks.
13:48.41ZeeekI'm talking about 100ms to the caller or ISP
13:48.49ManxPowerZaptel has like 5ms latency
13:48.52Zeeek90% of my provers are a little over 100
13:49.01GMsoftITU-T recommanded latency for a call is 150 ms
13:49.02bjohnsonfor anyone who cares, I think I've got safe_asterisk not using those crappy colours now
13:49.04Zeeekah I missed the zaptel part :)
13:49.08ManxPowerZeeek, That's why we don't use ITSPs much
13:50.35ManxPowerUgh.  I have to spend all day doing a new Asterisk install
13:54.19Zeeekisn't that what you love best in this life?
13:55.56ManxPowerno.
13:56.03ManxPowerthat would be money
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13:56.31pashahhello
13:57.06PoincareManxPower: just money?
13:57.26tzangerManxPower: so far so good?
13:58.17fishboy1669catch u later guys got to change lans now
13:58.18fishboy1669bye
13:59.33Whiskhi - i'm getting reproduceable seg faults with latest cvs - is the procedure for providing debug traces etc documented anywhere?
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14:00.34ZeeekManx if you loved money that much, you would have chosen another path
14:00.41GMsoftWhisk: ulimit -c unlimited
14:00.47GMsoftthat will give you a core dump
14:00.54GMsoftwhich the dev can analyze
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14:01.47Whiskok - sorry to be dumb, but you run that command before starting asterisk?
14:02.14GMsoftyep
14:02.32GMsoftand preferably run something like
14:02.38GMsoftasterisk -vvvvvvvvvv
14:02.55GMsoftinstead of starting it with the init scripts
14:03.34goatmilkhas anyone compiled asterisk with gcc4?
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14:04.16puzzledhi
14:04.30Mochi
14:05.17mooboiheya
14:05.59Groobyanyone running the CVS HEAD?
14:06.05Groobyhow's the jitter buffer working out?
14:06.30mooboiiiiiii dont know ;0
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14:11.31grailinkis there an alternative to goto.. i.e. something like a procedure call that can return to where the stack originally was before the call?
14:11.43grailinklike call(x)
14:12.04grailinkin extensions.conf that is...
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14:13.54Whiskthx GMsoft
14:15.12GMsoftWhisk: np
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14:16.50oej~seen anthm
14:16.58jbotanthm <~anthmct@CPE-69-76-83-52.wi.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 16h 2m 59s ago, saying: 'yacto'.
14:17.20dsmousegrailink: I think dial might be able to do that
14:17.28dsmouse*think*
14:17.54grailinkk.. i'll give it a try
14:17.57grailinkthx
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14:18.25dsmousegrailink: also look up forking on voip-info
14:18.35dsmousegrailink: they have some tricks with dial there
14:24.17grailinki *wish* they made these conf files like a procedural script (java/php/etc)... i'd be done by now :)
14:24.54mishehumornings suck.
14:25.24grailinkanyone here use diax?
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14:29.12nix000anyone expert in tdm technologies here like t1/e1 ?
14:29.52TheEmperorhello
14:30.32TheEmperorcan i ask if kernel 2.6 is ok to use with *?
14:30.37Essobiit's fine
14:30.44grailinkworks perfectly.. better actually
14:31.01TheEmperorgraillink: how does it work better?
14:31.28grailinkmeetme needs a timer and if you don't have zaptel hardware it needs you to have a special usb controller
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14:31.36grailinkwith 2.6 there is a high-res timer built into the kernel
14:31.52TheEmperori c
14:31.54TheEmperorinteresting
14:32.14TheEmperori was thinking of using debian with kernel 2.6, would that be ok
14:32.22grailinki had to upgrade a * box from to 2.6 last night to get meetme to work right
14:32.38Groobyso with 2.6, i don't need ztdummy?
14:32.41grailinki'd think any 2.6 kernel would be ok. i'm a suse fan but its all the same
14:32.52grailinku need ztdummy but it uses the kernel instead of the usb timer
14:32.53TheEmperorsweet!
14:33.27Groobyahhh i c i c
14:33.35grailinku running x and all that or just a server box?
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14:34.24nix000grailink: what is meetme ? i cant seem to find a wesite about it.
14:34.35grailinkmeetme is the * conf capability
14:34.36Darwin35its in the wiki pages
14:35.01grailinkits really nice
14:35.01Darwin35~wiki
14:35.31Darwin35~wiki meetme
14:35.40TheEmperorcan anyone help? i've already made a .call file and moved it to the outgoing directory how do i run it?
14:35.49Hmmhesaysvoodoo
14:36.02Darwin35who killed wiki
14:36.32grailinkvoip-info.org is up
14:36.38grailinkfor me that is...
14:36.45Hmmhesayswill smith killed wiki
14:36.48grailinkit could be because i'm special
14:36.51grailink;)
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14:37.23HmmhesaysI do my callbacks with an agi
14:37.24Darwin35job is having issues
14:37.30Darwin35the wiki pages are up
14:37.36Darwin35jbot
14:37.41tzafrirTheEmperor, your callfile is probably not readable by Asterisk
14:37.54tzafrirIs asterisk run as non-root?
14:39.00tzafrirbasically moving the call file to the outgoing directory should run it
14:39.07grailinki'm no totally sure but i don't see why it would need root
14:39.08g00dywhat hardware do you guys recomend for a newbie asterisk tester?
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14:39.44tzafrirgrailink, root is not needed. But if you're not root there is the option that you cannot read the call file
14:39.52nix000anyone used  asterisk snmp support  ?
14:40.05TheEmperortzafrir: i am running as root
14:40.36TheEmperortzafrir: i tried a few times but it doesn't work...
14:40.43TheEmperortzafrir: i called it 1.call
14:41.23grailinktzafrir: i run as root too.. but i've never tried to run it as anything else either. i'm sure there's a way to do it.
14:41.49g00dyany comments on the : LINYSYS PAP2?
14:42.09tzafrirTheEmperor, does the file remain in the outgoing directory?
14:42.35TheEmperortzafrir: no, it's gone when i move it
14:42.47tzafrirTheEmperor, so it is consumed by asterisk
14:43.08TheEmperortzafrir: yeah, but nothing happens
14:43.15tzafrirNow go to the CLI, set verbose = 3; and try to figure out the errors
14:43.22TheEmperortzafrir: maybe i wrote it wrong
14:43.33bjohnsonon a SPA 2000 .. is FXS Port Output Gain the volume to the handset or would that be the FXS Port Input Gain setting?
14:44.22tzafrirgrailink, -U is the way to run as non-root, BTW
14:44.36Hmmhesaysbjohnson: i bet it says in the manual
14:44.59TheEmperortzafrir: so what should i do now?
14:45.33bjohnsongrailink: the superdial macro takes a procedure approach and returns to where it was called
14:46.39bjohnsonHmmhesays: have you read the manual?  It doesn't explain much
14:47.39TheEmperortzafrir: maybe i can show you what i wrote in the .call file? it's not long
14:48.06tzafrir2 or three lines can be pasted here.
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14:48.10Hmmhesaysbjohnson: no
14:48.16Hmmhesaysbut i'm in the RTFM kinda mood
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14:48.34BrianR___YAY! DTMF based disconnect supervision works!
14:48.41bjohnsonHmmhesays: example:  FXS Port Input Gain is defined as Input Gain in dB. Valid values are 6.0 to infinity. Up to 3 decimal places
14:48.43Chotairehttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q276304
14:48.54TheEmperortzafrir: Channel : Zap/4/921416980, MaxRetries:4,RetryTime:60,WaitTime:30
14:48.56tzafrirTheEmperor, but did you check the trace in the CLI ?
14:49.07bjohnsonthat still doesn't tell me if it is the gain to (or from) the handset
14:49.19TheEmperortzafrir: how do i check trace in CLI?
14:49.28tzafrirasterisk -r
14:49.36tzafrirset verbose 3
14:49.36Hmmhesaysreceive gain is generally considered gain for incoming to the port
14:49.41tzafrirset debug 1
14:49.58tzafrir(or use some other values for 'verbose' and 'debug')
14:50.09TheEmperorwhen i type in set debug 1, it says no such command
14:50.21tzafrirAnyway, from which channel is this and to which extension?
14:50.24bjohnsonHmmhesays: incoming from * or incoming from the analog phone?
14:50.34TheEmperoris my .call file correct? i basically want it to dial a number
14:50.40TheEmperorfrom channel 4
14:50.41kamranhi all any one using http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-CallingCard+Applications
14:50.46Hmmhesaysfrom the analog side
14:50.56TheEmperordialling 921416980
14:51.03tzafrirThat would be: Channel: Zap/4
14:51.10TheEmperoryup, got that
14:51.20tzafrirto which extension should it dial?
14:51.22Hmmhesaysrx gain  =  the people transmitting to asterisk, tx gain = asterisk transmitting to the end user
14:51.26Hmmhesaysprobably
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14:51.33TheEmperori want it to dial an actual phone number
14:51.42TheEmperoror must it dial an extension?
14:52.17Hmmhesaysyou could always just turn one waaaaaaaay up
14:52.22Hmmhesaysthen you'd be able to tell quickly
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14:52.59tzafrirTheEmperor, asterisk knows about extensions (from certain contexts).
14:53.30tzafrirAsterisk has no idea you happen to consider some of those (minus some prefix) as phone numbers
14:53.36TheEmperortzafrir: so maybe i mistake was making it dial an actual number?
14:53.50TheEmperorit dials and extension and then in the exten file i specify where that goes?
14:53.55tzafrirSomething like:
14:54.03tzafrirExtension: 921416980
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14:54.35TheEmperorso instead of Channel, put in Extension: 1234 ?
14:54.38TheEmperorwould that work?
14:54.41TheEmperori can try that
14:57.36bladexhowdy, howdy .... anybody using linux,  what linux distro are you running on?
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14:58.35bladexoops
14:58.41Alejandriax26somebody from chile?
14:58.47bladexnot a war, i'm just wondering what people are using
14:58.56Hmmhesaysanyone using linux IN HERE?!?!?! nawwwwww
14:59.30HmmhesaysI like abacus linux... simple easy to use and requires no electricity
14:59.46bjohnsonhere's a different issue I have that I think may just be something I'm missing.  I'm using the authbyCID macro from the wiki and it authenticates and dials the internal extension that the caller inputs, but the caller doesn't hear ringing .. they hear a repeated beep (kinda souns like a busy tone)
14:59.52bladexdon't the beads get expensive making it hard to scale?
15:00.26Hmmhesaysgood for small to medium sized installations.... the real problem is hiring the super smart monkeys to run the calculations
15:00.39tzafrirI've seen people use (alphbetical order) Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, little Mandrake, RHEL clones (mostly CentOS), slackware, and very little SuSE
15:01.06bjohnsonwow .. alphabetical order even
15:01.15jsolaresUnbuntu!
15:01.23Hmmhesayslol
15:01.25bladexi am only asking because i use crux which is Very lean, but i ran into a problem with devfs versus udev
15:01.27GMsofttzafrir: gentoo even have support for asterisk on parisc cpu :)
15:01.42Hmmhesaysi use debian
15:01.49Hmmhesaysbecause apt is my friend
15:01.55jsolareswell ubuntu is kinda like a debian clone
15:01.59jsolaresapt is good
15:02.04Hmmhesaysyeah knoppix too
15:02.04djinapt works in redhat as well.
15:02.06TheEmperortzafrir:pbx_spool.c:194 apply_outgoing: At least one of app or extension must be specifies, along with tech and dest in file /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/1.call
15:02.13Hmmhesaysyeah but you gotta install it
15:02.28jsolareswell knoppix is really debian with custom debs on top, while ubuntu i think is only using apt
15:02.31Hmmhesaysand it's a pain in the ass if you run into an apt dependancy problem
15:02.35jsolaresi think i think that
15:02.37bjohnsontrue .. yum is the default system
15:02.49tzafrirFor reference on supported Debian platforms: http://packages.debian.org/testing/comm/asterisk
15:02.53TheEmperortzafrir:pbx_spool.c:304 scan_service: Invalid file contents deleting. Any idea?
15:03.17HmmhesaysUbuntu is a Linux distribution that starts with the breadth of Debian
15:03.47HmmhesaysI dislike the name enough to keep me from using it
15:04.10jsolarestzafrir: i think my next asterisk box is going to be debian
15:04.18Essobianyone have any ideas why when my AS5400 dials my * box, * never matches it to the peer entry?
15:04.20tzafrirKnoppix is really a mix of Debians with some custom debs on to[
15:04.40jsolaresas my brother the debian nut says, if it's not on debian repository it doesnt exists :X
15:04.52Essobimaha
15:04.58kamranhi all any one using http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-CallingCard+Applications
15:05.03Hmmhesaysi like the fact that you can download the entire repository weekly
15:05.08Hmmhesayson cd's
15:05.15EssobiThat's scarey.
15:05.27Hmmhesaysiso 1-15 is regenerated weekly
15:05.40tzafrirHmmhesays, why would you like to do that? The whole point is that you don't need to.
15:05.44Essobi"1-15" is exactly what scares me.
15:05.52EssobiIt's 15 fricking disks.
15:06.02Hmmhesaysthey have dvd distro's too
15:06.08Essobi^o_O^
15:06.20EssobiBaaah, humbug.
15:06.22tzafrirEssobi, which is why you never load everything (unless you want to set up a mirror
15:06.23tzafrir)
15:06.29jsolaresi know someone that found it useful to burn all 15 cd's
15:06.53Essobitza I run debian. :)  I DONT NEED NO STEEEENKIN ISOS!
15:07.03Hmmhesaystzafrir: just to have it... most likely after the nuclear holocaust and I can't get connected to a debian repository to install more packages
15:07.26EssobiHeh.. We have a reposotory like.. 20 minutes from wher eI'm sitting.
15:07.35Alejandriax26Who know if there are a distributor of  digium in chile? Thanks. But I need to buy the Wildcard TE110P.
15:07.48EssobiI'll just drop on the local net, and be like.. DEWD.. BURN ME SOME SHIZZLE
15:08.18Hmmhesayslol, I would ignore that statement like you weren't even there
15:08.19EssobiI should run a local apt-mirror thou.
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15:09.10EssobiHmmhesays That was sarcasm, you'know.
15:09.12TheEmperortzafrir: Any idea?
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15:09.30NirS_UKhello all
15:09.32EssobiI SMOTE THEEE!
15:09.32NirS_UKanybody home ?
15:09.36EssobiHell na.
15:09.43EssobiOnly the cockroaches.
15:09.48NirS_UKany
15:09.59EssobiNow drop the cereal and shut off the light on the way out.
15:10.11NirS_UKany one has an idea why would a TE410P card flicker like crazy on all leds after loading the ZAPTEL module ?
15:10.31EssobiUmm.. Bad voltage?  Motherboard?  And you called digium?
15:10.40NirS_UKhadn't called digium yet
15:10.43EssobiDude.
15:10.44NirS_UKmotherboard ?
15:10.52EssobiUse their support.
15:10.53NirS_UKjust installed th
15:10.54|Vulture|Essobi: damn man did you sleep?
15:11.00NirS_UKtheir support isn't available at this time
15:11.01EssobiMahaha. No.
15:11.20NirS_UKthe module loads ok, and recognizes the card no problem
15:11.34EssobiEhh?  Digium ain't open yet?
15:11.36NirS_UKbut the possibility of a power issue is a possibility
15:11.41|Vulture|still trying to register as a peer?
15:11.45|Vulture|I mean friend
15:11.46NirS_UKwell, it sh
15:11.47EssobiShewww. I'm going to open up an eastern seaboard support center.
15:11.50NirS_UKit should be by now
15:11.52NirS_UKgood idea
15:11.57Essobi:)
15:12.26Essobi|Vulture| I've been using a peer in the config but the 5400 looks like it's trying to register as a friend..
15:12.31EssobiWhy I don't know..
15:13.06EssobiFunny thing is.. none of the docs says it supports anything other then a peer config (the 5400 that is..)
15:13.28|Vulture|Essobi: did you try setting it as a friend and see what happens?
15:14.37tzafrirTheEmperor, any trace?
15:15.15EssobiOh, I down graded to 1.05 too
15:15.42Essobithat didn't help.. I was sure I had inbound working.. I'm thinking I had one of my did's in default or default included one of the contexts it was in.
15:15.44Essobi:|
15:16.32EssobiSame dealio.
15:16.32EssobiLooking for 8665289720 in default
15:16.35Essobi:|
15:16.40tzafrirTheEmperor, each field should be in a separate line. And you should indeed have an Extension: field
15:16.41EssobiIt won't match on the peer
15:16.43Essobior friend
15:18.46EssobiFrom: <sip:ORIGINATINGANI@my.as.5400.ip>;tag=7D65ED88-8C3 <-- Is the header supposed to look like that?
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15:19.47jerohi
15:19.57Groobyhi
15:20.49EssobiOkay.. This is screwed.
15:21.12EssobiI added the ANI of the inbound user as the username.. and it landed in the context it was supposed to.
15:21.15EssobiWTF is up with that?
15:21.35bjohnsonhere's a different issue I have that I think may just be something I'm missing.  I'm using the authbyCID macro from the wiki and it authenticates and dials the internal extension that the caller inputs, but the caller doesn't hear ringing .. they hear a repeated beep (kinda souns like a busy tone)
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15:22.09BrianR___Is there any way to make fxo cards answer before the second ring? I don't care if I lose caller id...
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15:22.19jerohi
15:22.26bjohnsonwhy would that be?  It does actually ring the phones.  And a person can pickup the ringing phones and have a conversation like normal
15:23.42EssobiUmm.
15:23.52Essobisounds like your ringback is simulated.
15:23.56EssobiZapata?
15:23.59TheEmperortzafrir: did that..
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15:24.12EssobiMaybe you have the wrong set of notification tones turned up.
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15:27.17Essobi*SIGH*
15:27.51EssobiAnyone have an idea why I can only get my as5400 to register as a sip friend with the ANI being the username?
15:28.33[ro]nic3tryis possible that contact to differ of from  in a sip message ?
15:28.37bjohnsonEssobi: you talking to me?  My devices are Sipra
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15:28.41bjohnsonSipura
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15:29.59[ro]nic3trypls ?
15:33.45ast_freakCan anyone help me with debugging some X-lite sip phones?  I had set qualify=yes which had worked fine for months, but now they are lagging big time.  I set qualify=2000 since the lagged phones seemed to have ~1600 ms lag time.  But some of them are still lagging at 2 secs!  I did a sip debug peer on one, and it seems to be retransmitting an OPTIONS command like this:
15:33.56ast_freak<PROTECTED>
15:33.57ast_freakRetransmitting #4 (no NAT):
15:33.59ast_freakOPTIONS sip:5004@10.251.87.237:5060 SIP/2.0
15:34.00ast_freakVia: SIP/2.0/UDP 10.251.86.242:5060;branch=z9hG4bK26cc9c4e
15:34.02ast_freakFrom: "asterisk" <sip:asterisk@10.251.86.242>;tag=as06acfd3d
15:34.03ast_freakTo: <sip:5004@10.251.87.237:5060>
15:34.05ast_freakContact: <sip:asterisk@10.251.86.242>
15:34.06ast_freakCall-ID: 46a215b841183d8e09c0ac443e6d1f10@10.251.86.242
15:34.08ast_freakCSeq: 102 OPTIONS
15:34.10ast_freakUser-Agent: Asterisk PBX
15:34.11ast_freakDate: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:29:47 GMT
15:34.12ast_freakAllow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, OPTIONS, BYE, REFER
15:34.14ast_freakContent-Length: 0
15:34.15ast_freakCan anyone help me?
15:34.27Beirdogah
15:34.34Beirdo~pastebin
15:34.35jbotrumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
15:34.57ast_freakSorry, I didn't know that this counted as a flood.
15:35.08heisondo we have any dundi participant here?
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15:37.11Beirdomuhahah
15:37.19Beirdo~nickometer ast_freak
15:37.19jbot'ast_freak' is 14.000% lame, beirdo
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15:37.24Beirdofun stuff
15:37.36Delvar~nickometer Delvar
15:37.36jbot'Delvar' is 0.000% lame, delvar
15:37.46Beirdo~nickometer [ro]nic3try
15:37.46jbot'[ro]nic3try' is 32.000% lame, beirdo
15:37.55Beirdooooh, we have a winner
15:38.02heison~nickometer jbot
15:38.02jbot'jbot' is 0.000% lame, heison
15:38.11D31V4rrr~nickometer D31V4rrr
15:38.11jbot'D31V4rrr' is 99.550% lame, d31v4rrr
15:38.15Beirdoheheh
15:38.15D31V4rrrrar!
15:38.17djinwow
15:38.21`SauronYawn.
15:38.27`SauronY'all really need a life.
15:38.30`SauronReally.
15:38.40Beirdo`Sauron: your point being?
15:38.41[ro]nic3try~nicometer Beirdo
15:38.45D31V4rrr~nickometer `Sauron
15:38.45jbot'`Sauron' is 14.000% lame, d31v4rrr
15:38.48D31V4rrrhehe
15:39.10[ro]nic3try~nickometer Beirdo
15:39.10jbot'Beirdo' is 0.000% lame, [ro]nic3try
15:39.15[ro]nic3tryupz
15:39.31`SauronBeirdo: A big boy like you should've figured that out already, no?
15:39.32ast_freakCan anyone help me with the sip problem?
15:40.35Beirdo`Sauron: I know I need a life.  :)
15:42.28lorionI am getting a 1 way audio path on my phones that are mat'd behind a firewall.  Anyone know if I need to open allow any special ports?
15:43.30dsmouseLoRez: sip, iax, ?
15:43.46LoRezdsmouse: fix your tab completion :)
15:43.51dsmousedamnit
15:47.57Nuggetheh
15:48.15dsmouseterracon and terrapen get me all the time too
15:48.27EssobiAnyone running a cisco ASXXXX as a sip peer into to an * box?
15:48.53kamranhello
15:49.09kamranany one know how to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH
15:49.28kamrani am getting error while gcc
15:49.50kamrangcc -shared -Xlinker -x -o app_prepaid_auth_pin.so app_prepaid_auth_pin.o -lmysqlclient
15:49.50kamran/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient
15:49.50kamranco
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15:50.19kamranany one have any idea
15:50.39ScarletCrusaderanyone Use Nabisco Routers in their $hop?
15:50.56Groobylorion, port 10000-20000 for RTP?
15:51.08Whiskhmm
15:51.09|Vulture|anyone using speex on voicepulse?
15:51.10Nuggetthis router is packed by weight, not volume.  Traffic may have settled during transmission.
15:51.16Whiskmy asterisk seems to be grinding to a halt
15:51.18Essobikamran You don't have the mysql client libraries installed.
15:51.31EssobiNugget Hah.
15:51.39Whisktook 2 mins to do an agentcallbacklogin and now it's not responding at all :(
15:51.53kamranEssobi: i have mysql libraries at /usr/lib/mysql
15:51.53EssobiWhisk asterisk -r?
15:51.54Hmmhesayshmm my asterisk has suddenly stopped sending voicemail--> email
15:52.01lorionGrooby: Here is my config - Asterisk -> Internet -> PIX525 -> Phone
15:52.08Essobikamran Have you re-ran ldconfig since you installed them?
15:52.09Whiskconsole doesn't show anything
15:52.10|Vulture|Hmmhesays: check maillog
15:52.17ast_freakCan anyone help me with my sip problems?
15:52.22Essobiif so, then /usr/lib/mysql ain't in your /etc/ld.conf
15:52.27Groobylorion, so where's the router/nat sit?
15:52.35EssobiWhisk top -S?
15:52.40kamranok
15:52.46ScarletCrusaderhold the cup closer to your mouth
15:52.51Essobimahaha
15:53.05Essobipaint it mauve.. it's got more ram. :)
15:53.10Whiskasterisk isn't using any cpu
15:53.20Essobithen what is?
15:53.21Essobi:)
15:53.22Whiskbox is on about 10%
15:53.23Whisknothing
15:53.45Essobisomething is sucking.. whip out your handy dandy admin skills and look.
15:53.55|Vulture|Anyone here using Speex?
15:54.22Whiskit's ok when i first start *, but goes crappy after a while
15:54.26Groobyvulture, I tried
15:54.36Groobyit sucked bad
15:54.40Essobi|Vulture| Hey, get this.. my AS5400 works fine if I use the inbound caller ID as the username= in the sip config with a friend type.
15:54.41Essobi:|
15:54.43kamranEssobi: how to set this
15:55.08Essobiemacs /etc/ld.so.conf
15:55.12Trionniserf
15:55.16|Vulture|Essobi: oh wow.. thats just strange
15:55.20|Vulture|Grooby: what do you use?
15:55.20Essobiadd the directory and rerun ldconfig
15:55.25Trionnisanyone seen the 403 Forbidden problem with xlite?
15:55.29EssobiYea.. I'm groveling in #cisco now for help.
15:55.29Groobyi use speex with x-lite
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15:55.40Trionnis(yes, I'm screwing with a softphone, ridicule me)
15:55.42Trionnis;)
15:55.43|Vulture|Grooby: Ive been using ilbc and it isn't bad
15:55.47HitTopHi, anyone using polycom phone here?
15:55.49Groobyyeah
15:55.52Groobyi use ilbc
15:55.53Groobyand i like it
15:55.55|Vulture|HitTop: I do
15:55.59lorionGrooby: the router is on the phone side
15:56.02Groobyilbc when I am outside, and ulaw when I am in the house
15:56.27Groobylorion, is nat=yes for that extension's config?
15:56.27kamranEssobi: it is already there
15:56.43lorionGrooby: I have included nat=yes
15:56.48Groobyhmmmm
15:56.57Essobinow is that the server libs or the client libs?
15:57.02EssobiInstall both.
15:57.08Groobywhat kinda phone?
15:57.16lorionGrooby: The asterisk box is not behind a FW, the phones are.
15:57.29lorionGrooby: I am using X-lite
15:57.30Essobilorion Ewww.
15:57.36Groobythat's interesting
15:57.54lorionGrooby: the phones login fine and I can leave voicemail, I just don't hear anything
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15:58.09Hmmhesaysis there anyway I can see if voicemail is trying trying to send and email out?
15:58.32ast_freakHmmhesays, mailq
15:58.43loriongrooby: when I type "sip show peers" I see the phones.
15:58.43GroobyLorion,  can you open port on your FW for UDP outgoing on 10000 to 20000?
15:58.56ast_freakHmmhesays, better yet, # tail -f /var/log/maillog
15:59.00lorionGrooby: sure
15:59.11dsmouselorion: try sip show channels
15:59.12lorionGrooby: brb
15:59.12Groobyi know at one of my client site, I had to open up the outgoing ports for RTP in order for my x-lite to work
15:59.27Hmmhesaysheh, **frozen** that doesn't look good
15:59.45loriondsmouse: 0 active sip channels
16:00.02dsmouselorion: oh, right cause you arn't on the phone atm
16:00.08kamrani have checked /etc/ld.so.conf it has /usr/lib/mysql
16:00.09lorionlol
16:00.22kamranand here i have all libraries
16:01.30km-dammit, I hate it when I send people e-mail and they're like "oh, I deleted that months ago, can you send it to me again?"
16:01.34lorionGrooby: allow outside -> inside UDP 10000 - 20000, correct?
16:01.46km-its hard searching through all that friggin e-mail
16:01.51Groobylorion, is it NATTED?
16:02.01GroobyI was thinking inside => out UDP 10000-20000
16:02.02loriongrooby: yes
16:02.25Groobyif it's outside -> in, then you have to configure which internal IP they go to
16:02.44loriongrooby: true
16:03.11Groobyalso when you dial to VM, do sip show channels
16:03.15Groobyand see if that channel shows up
16:03.58mishehuhas anybody used a Citel Link Handset Gateway for (legacy) PBX phones before?  I'm looking for info and user responses to the device...
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16:06.06lorionGrooby: that rule stop intenet traffic
16:06.11lorionGrooby: brb
16:06.40Groobyhmmmf...guess that's a little different from the firebox
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16:08.06|Vulture|oh man.. you guys will get a kick out of this
16:08.12EssobiHmm.
16:08.18|Vulture|I just created an extension for a one "Lovely Butts"
16:08.18Trionnistrying to register xlite as a sip extension, sip debug shows that I keep getting 403 Forbidden
16:08.22Trionnishelp?
16:08.23|Vulture|that is someones REAL name
16:08.30EssobiHaha.
16:08.41Groobylol
16:08.43|Vulture|I had to confirm that this was not a joke
16:08.45EssobiI knew a guy nameds Bob Head.
16:08.57TrionnisAnita Dick
16:09.07Essobiand I went to school with Anita Douche
16:09.07Trionniswas a woman my mom worked with for many years
16:09.12|Vulture|Essobi: we have a couple of funny ones, "Mike Googe" "Dick Super" and now "Lovely Butts"
16:09.12Trionnislaf
16:09.16shmaltzanybody here dealt with VoipSupply?
16:09.20|Vulture|Essobi: lol
16:09.33|Vulture|shmaltz: yes they are good
16:09.33EssobiHer dad was a teach.. Bob Douche.
16:09.37Essobiteacher
16:09.55Essobioh and Peter Richard Johnson was in my gym class. :)
16:10.03EssobiThat was classic.. he looked like Beavis.
16:10.04|Vulture|lol
16:10.15Groobyhow you guys like the IP500 phones?
16:10.17|Vulture|sounds like a porn star name
16:10.22EssobiHeh.
16:10.22|Vulture|love them!
16:10.40shmaltz|Vulture|, thanks, I also think they are good, but I'm having an accounting issue with them, so I was wondering if it's just a mistake (which at the moment I'm treating it as such) or have there been other mistakes like this.
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16:11.21fishboy1669hi guys
16:11.22|Vulture|shmaltz: never had any problem with them, is it a big issue?
16:11.53Trionnisso can someone give me a couple hints here?
16:11.57Trionnispretty please?
16:11.58Trionnis:)
16:12.07shmaltz|Vulture|, it's some extra charge on my MasterCard, and the bookeeper seems not know what I'm talking about
16:12.21Trionnissuprisingly enough, this is the first time I've bothered with a softphone
16:12.42Trionnisand the google, it does nothing!
16:13.19shmaltzTrionnis, take out the password (blank) for know, add it in once it works
16:13.47EssobiMy * box is sending SIP Status: 407 Proxy Authentication Required
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16:13.55Essobiback to my as5400
16:13.56Essobi:|
16:13.58EssobiFFS
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16:14.13Trionnisk
16:14.16TrionnisI'll give it a try
16:15.14Groobyso how are you guys encrypting the sip passwords?
16:15.41sricardanybody haa a SPA-841 phone, i hear a small annoying rumbling noise in the handset and Sipura is not answering my emails
16:16.00sricardit's brand new
16:16.08shmaltzsricard, who you talking on the other end with the spa841?
16:16.43shmaltzsricard, I mean what hardware?
16:17.15Groobysricard, i'll be getting that phone tomorrow
16:17.49shmaltzGrooby, why do u want them encrypted?
16:18.00sricardasterisk
16:18.14sricardshmaltz: asterisk
16:18.17Groobyso other people don't create sip connection to my asterisk
16:18.33shmaltzsricard, thanks :( what hardware I asked
16:18.34Essobithen use IP restrictions.
16:18.48sricardshmaltz: if i leave a voice mail or do a recording, i can hear it back
16:18.55EssobiI thought all sip passwords flybythewire unencrypted.
16:19.08shmaltzGrooby, you mean if sniffed?
16:19.15Trionniser
16:19.17TrionnisFeb 24 10:19:03 NOTICE[27131]: chan_sip.c:4874 register_verify: Peer 'brooks' is trying to register, but not configured as host=dynamic
16:19.22|Vulture|only IAX2 can be encrypted from my understanding
16:19.36Trionnisit's not dynamic, it's through ipsec
16:19.41|Vulture|see Trionnis is using IP restrictions
16:19.46shmaltzTrionnis, you got the solution in the error. do host => dynamic
16:19.47Hmmhesaysfarking sales people
16:19.51Trionnisbut it's not
16:19.52Trionnislol
16:20.19|Vulture|Trionnis: how is your setup working via VPN?
16:20.20sricardshmaltz: asterisk is running on Gentoo (P3 1000 512mb) going through a netgear 100mb/s switch. Is this the info you are looking for?
16:20.27Hmmhesaysif I hear "if this box works, this newer revision should work" one more time I"M going to kill someone
16:20.54bjohnsonEssobi: there is a guy named Jack Imhof that works for the Ontario Ministry of Agriculture
16:21.06|Vulture|lol
16:21.07sricardanybody from Sipura here?
16:21.21Trionnis|Vulture|: openswan from my m0n0wall to the server
16:21.22shmaltzsricard, nope I meant the phone of the other person. I think b4 you come to conclusions that you should first try it with another phone, and not rely on the VoiceMail
16:21.39TrionnisI think it just connected tho
16:21.40Trionnis:)
16:21.45Trionnislemme test it
16:22.16shmaltzTrionnis:):):):)
16:22.23|Vulture|Anyone use FreeWorldTel Direct?
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16:22.50sricardshmaltz: i tried via the PSTN going through an FXO on my TDM400 and it is the same, also tried via an inter pbx link via IAX2 and it is the same
16:23.22sricardshmaltz: there is no dought that it is the phone if it's what you want to get at...
16:23.30shmaltzhave you tried it with another * box? sricard.
16:23.52sricardshmaltz: at another location, same
16:24.10shmaltzI hear. I have a SPA 841, but I didn't test it yet.
16:24.13Groobyyeah
16:24.14Groobyif it's sniffed
16:24.59shmaltzGrooby, I don't think that a VOIP account is wort so much that it should be sniffed out, sniffing is just too much work
16:25.28|Vulture|plus you would see it on CDR
16:25.36marc_cwhats the difference between govarion and digium cards?
16:25.42shmaltzgtg will be back soon.
16:25.56sricardshmaltz: you planning to test it soon?  I sent 2 emaisl in a row to Sipura: 1-SPA-3000 problem; 2-SPA-841, they responded on the first email right away and never responded on the second, emailed again a few days ago and no response yet
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16:26.48sricardshmaltz: it seems they are not interested in responding, may be they are aware of the problem and have no resolution for it :-(
16:26.52Groobyok
16:26.53RGi_-is it in the sip.config file I can set what codec I use ?
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16:29.54Groobythat's for sip connections
16:30.05Groobywhich codecs are allow for sip connections i mean
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16:30.11Mother_hi all
16:30.13EssobiWell.. if anyone cares to look.. the tethereal dumps, sip debug peer and sip.conf entries I'm using are at http://spider.teledvance.com/sip-debug.txt
16:30.21Mother_anyone use a 7960 through a double NAT?
16:30.48Mother_I have a problem that no matter how I configure the RTP port ranges, it always picks a port outside the range and thus fails
16:31.15mishehuSIP and double nat are bad.
16:31.43bjohnsonsricard: what was the spa 3k issue?
16:31.48Mother_yeah I know, but this is a single phone inside a NAT talking to the * on the other NAT, so in theory, if I map the UDP port range on both routers to the fixed IPs it should work
16:32.08bjohnsonmishehu: few people have it working
16:32.24GroobyMother, that's how my setup is
16:32.35Mother_i.e. in rtp.conf I limit the range 10000 to 10020, the same is configured on the 7960, and ports 10000->10020 are routed to the respective IPs inside the NATs
16:32.42bjohnsonmishehu: zeeek got it to work by specifing the remote LAN ip address and the remote LAN subnet mask
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16:32.50aminorexSIP is sheer madness
16:32.55bjohnsonI got it to work by using FWD as a go-between
16:32.56|Vulture|by double NAT you mean SIP phone out of 1 NAT and into a NAT with a * behind it?
16:33.01bjohnsonyes
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16:33.19|Vulture|I use WRT54g routers and have no problems
16:33.22bjohnsonactually in my case .. * behind nat .. remote sip phone behind 2 nat routers
16:33.23Mother_|Vulture|: yes
16:33.36JerJerhell I have Asterisk running on my WRT54gs
16:33.38JerJeras my home PBX
16:33.40GroobyMother, I have the same setup as vulture and have no problem
16:33.48|Vulture|JerJer: they rock! :)
16:33.51Mother_7960 <- NAT -> DSL <-> NAT <-> *
16:33.54aminorexthat would solve the SIP problem
16:34.03JerJermaybe more like Jam
16:34.03Groobyi didn't have to bother with port forward on the phone side tho
16:34.03|Vulture|Mother_: wow that looks like my setup
16:34.06Groobyjust the asterisk side
16:34.10bjohnsonmainly because it isn't double nat then
16:34.18|Vulture|JerJer: you use the Sveasoft firmware?
16:34.19JerJerthey would rock if it was a  x86 processor
16:34.24cbachmanJerJer, I was looking at doing the same thing under  OpenWrt on a Motorola wr850g (similar to a wrt54g)
16:34.26JerJerno FPU is kinda suckky
16:34.34JerJerOpenWRT
16:34.42|Vulture|ah
16:35.17Groobyjerjer, how's * on wrt?
16:35.25Mother_then in the SIP debbuging, why do I get this: Peer audio RTP is at port 80.32.X.X:27466
16:35.33JerJerusable for the average home user
16:35.40JerJeri've had 4 calls up at once
16:35.51sivana~seen sixtel
16:35.53jbotsixtel <sixtel@sixTel.iax.cc> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 49d 11h 17m 8s ago, saying: 'no such host, not in sip.conf right'.
16:35.53JerJertranscoding ulaw to gsm
16:35.58Groobynice ok
16:37.04Mother_in sip.conf I also have host=dynamic, because if I specify the remote IP in host it cannot register
16:37.09GroobyMother: 80.32.x.x is your phone IP?
16:37.13Mother_yes
16:37.28Groobyand nat=yes for the phone right?
16:37.37Mother_yep, in sip.conf nat=yes
16:37.47mishehuanybody using speex and can help give some insight?  I've been trying speex 1.0.4, and speex works with asterisk when the originating extension is iax, even if it's not speex to start with (in this case, it's an iaxy, g711ulaw).  speex always works in this case.  However, if the originating extension is using SIP g711ulaw, transcoded to speex, audio gets all chopped and 80% lost...
16:37.54Grooby(for that extension or under [general]?)
16:38.00Mother_for that extension
16:38.31Groobywacky
16:38.54Mother_type=peer, host=dynamic, reinvite=no, canreinvite=no, nat=yes
16:39.03Groobymishehu, i tried speex 1.0.4 yesterday and was having the same problem
16:39.14mishehuGrooby: have you tried speex 1.1.6 ?
16:39.18JerJerMother_:  reinvite=no is not an option
16:39.25Groobythe beta? no
16:39.29JerJerand why don't you want them to re-invite anways?
16:39.39bjohnsonthe ability to hack the WRT54gs has really made it popular.  I wonder if router manufacturers have learned anything from that?
16:39.56Groobyisn't it canreinvite=no?
16:40.14Mother_well I had both, this was taken from an example configuration
16:40.15mishehuI replaced speex 1.0.4 with 1.1.6 for test, and even though asterisk is dynamically linked to speex libraries, it seems that I might need to rebuild asterisk against 1.1.6, as asterisk crashes whenever speex is negoatiate then.
16:40.22Mother_should I remove the reinvite?
16:40.24Trionnisbjohnson: I doubt it
16:40.24JerJerMother_:  then the sample is wrong
16:40.26JerJerlook at the source
16:40.29Mother_ok
16:40.34Groobymishehu, did you ldconfig?
16:40.42Groobyi had to do that else my * crashes when tryiing to load the so
16:40.43mishehuGrooby: of course.
16:40.59mishehuldconfig, and restarted asterisk.
16:41.02Groobymishehu, I pretty much gave up on it..hehehehe
16:41.12Groobyilbc works great for me so I am sticking w/ that
16:41.14EssobiHey JerJer.. Can you look at something real quick at tell me if I'm missing something painfully obvious?  http://spider.teledvance.com/sip-debug.txt
16:41.45yashaIs it possible to have a follow me try to reach 1 * ext first, then try Cell Phone, then if no answer come back to 2nd * ext and try the 2nd cell phone and then if no answer go to * VM box?
16:41.50mishehuGrooby: it's a shame.  my hardware is good enough that transcoding from pretty much any codec to speex is only 28 to 30 ms delay, and speex at gsm bandwidth sounds like g711ulaw...
16:42.03shido6peers dont have contexts Essobi
16:42.04Groobyreally?
16:42.15Groobymaybe another try later down the road
16:42.25Essobishido6 What?  Inbound peers don't HAVE a context?
16:42.34tzangerEssobi: an inbound peer is a user
16:42.37shido6what?
16:42.44shido6inbound peers? you mean users... ?
16:42.49|Vulture|I just made a call with ilbc... wow great quality
16:42.52EssobiNo shit?
16:42.54shido6and users dont need hosts
16:43.01Mother_is there anywhere else where RTP port range is restricted other than rtp.conf?
16:43.05mishehuGrooby: yeah, I think gsm sounds kind of crappy...  I really couldn't tell the diff between speex and g711ulaw at gsm bandwidth...
16:43.05EssobiBaah.
16:43.22EssobiSo.. What, have a user with no name and password just an IP set?
16:43.25ionixHey, anyone has ANY IDEA on how I can fill in a name when I have a phone number ? Trying to find a way to access the RBOC database.
16:43.36|Vulture|do you guys use "trunk=yes" in your iax.conf?
16:43.50Mother_|Vulture|: I tried, but it refused to work
16:44.09Mother_was trying to trunk four PSTN over IAX to another *
16:44.11GroobyMother, the nat on the phone side is port forwarding you said?
16:44.19Mother_Grooby: yes
16:44.40Mother_but what really puzzles me is that the RTP port it picks is outside the range limits
16:44.42Groobyis there a reason for that?  if the phone's iniating the connection and nat=yes in sip.conf
16:45.00Groobythe router should be smart enough to keep that connection open
16:45.13Mother_Grooby: so the phone will start the RTP port towards the * first then?
16:45.20Groobyyeah
16:45.23Mother_OK
16:45.33JerJershido6:  users don't ~need~ hosts, but ~can~ use hosts to authenticate via IP
16:45.45Mother_still can't figure out why it picks 27000something when it's limited to 10000-10020
16:45.52shido6yes.
16:46.03Groobyi am guessing 10000-10020 is on the * side
16:46.07Groobythe phone side can be anything
16:46.15Groobymight be something in the phone configuration
16:46.36|Vulture|you can set RTP ports in * config
16:46.46Groobybut that's RTP port for * right?
16:46.52|Vulture|correct
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16:46.55Groobynot the phone
16:47.04|Vulture|RTP for the phone usually isn't configurable
16:47.05GroobyMother, did you add canreinvite=no?
16:47.15Mother_|Vulture|: I am doing so, in rtp.conf I have limited 10000-10020, and the same on the phone, and in the sip debug output I see it's picking 27470, 27472, etc
16:47.18mishehu|Vulture|: I use trunk=yes in iax.conf
16:47.27Groobymaybe asterisk is reinviting and send SIP connection from your provider to phone
16:47.30|Vulture|mishehu: notice any difference?
16:47.30EssobiSo I shouldn't use a single friend entry?  I need a peer and a user for each router?
16:47.44Mother_Grooby: yes, it was like that, let me check again
16:47.52mishehu|Vulture|: I don't do enough calling to notice.  (normally only one channel open)
16:48.18yashaGUYS:  Is it possible to have a follow me try to reach 1 * ext first, then try Cell Phone, then if no answer come back to 2nd * ext and try the 2nd cell phone and then if no answer go to * VM box?
16:48.40mishehuyasha: you can do whatever you like
16:48.55mishehufrom the extensions conf at least
16:49.07yashaSo it is possible to bring the call back from cell phone back to *?
16:49.14JerJeryasha: sure
16:49.32EssobiI guess I'm missing something blindingly important.
16:49.41JerJertype=friend is evil
16:49.47JerJerand it WILL bite you, eventually
16:49.54EssobiHow the hell do you get an as5400 server to allow a call to an * box?
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16:50.16JerJerEssobi:  SIP
16:50.18yashaCan someone please give me an example of "follow me" that would asnwer * ext, then call cell phone and then if no answer, back to an * VM?
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16:51.08heisonessobi: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-February/036180.html
16:52.41Essobiso... My dial-out (peer) works fine..
16:52.50eipii have problem authenticanting SIP from database (sip_friends). ANyone have working and want help me?
16:54.53yashaGuys, anyone?
16:55.33EssobiIf I'm reading this right...
16:56.02Essobithe sip.conf page on voip-info says.. the From header recieved is matched to the type=user entry..
16:56.32EssobiMy as5400 is sending From: <sip:THEANIOFTHECALLER@192.168.0.1>;tag=7DBDED74-59E
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16:56.56EssobiSo I need to have a seperate user for every fricking inbound ANI?  That's wack.
16:57.42EssobiOh.. it should just match on the host= shouldn't it?
16:57.48shido6u can
16:58.37JerJerthere should be a way to set an actual username
16:58.42JerJerand secret
17:00.18EssobiI havn't found any documentation confirming that on cisco.com
17:00.27EssobiI assumed as much myself.
17:00.49EssobiCause it'd be nice to have different DID's from one box land in different contexts.
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17:01.19bjohnsonyasha: wiki
17:01.34bjohnsonbasically dial with a timeout set
17:01.39DoCatworkhello peoples
17:01.43bjohnsoncheck the superdial macro on the wiki
17:02.00yashabjohnson: Thanks buddy...
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17:02.30DoCatworkcan someone say me if asterisk can route incoming isdncalls to annother isdncard??
17:03.33roamer323anyone familiar with the DOCSIS MTAs and the cable digital phones that are being rolled out all over by TimeWarner, Shaw in Canada, etc?
17:03.44DoCatworki mean can it simulate an isdnbox an send incoming calls to intern numbers like 12 15 etc
17:05.40ScarletCrusaderExcuse me, does anyone have experience with the Budge Tone 100 Phones from the Test Kit?  i'm just trying to get the phone to talk to the PBX system
17:06.27DoCatworkyou must add a user for the phone and login with this logindates to your asterisk box
17:06.33ScarletCrusaderThe PBX is Operational and I've installed the sample scripts
17:06.43shido6u have the pword to the phone ScarletCrusader?
17:06.49ScarletCrusaderyes
17:07.05ScarletCrusadershido6: yes
17:07.15ScarletCrusaderDoCatwork: THanks
17:09.46DoCatworki come back later if some more peoples are there
17:10.30km-Asterisk rocks.
17:10.39km-just in case no one else realized it.
17:10.42Groobylol
17:10.45ScarletCrusaderlol
17:11.35phreakI know this isn't the spot-on subject for this channel, but since people here _might_ have had experience with such things I'll try: What do you call the equipment you have on your feet to climb up in telephone/power-poles? Directly translated from swedish it's 'pole shoes', but it doesn't seem to be the right term in english.
17:11.58outtoluncpole climbers <G>
17:12.07trigclimbing spikes?
17:12.12trighttp://www.esscodist.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page6.html
17:13.09phreaktrig: No, but similiar. The things I mean is very much more reliable, you can rest on them. But since you have it around the pole, no branches/whatever can be in the way.
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17:13.55outtolunchttp://www.buckinghammfg.com/linemen/pcpc.html
17:14.02km-they also have kind of like a belt strap that they use to climb as well
17:14.03outtoluncthey are called pole climbers
17:14.03phreakouttolunc: From what I found at first on google it doesnt seem to be the right thing too, but thanks you too for some pointers, some site might have them both :)
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17:14.23Mother_Grooby: in the Cisco, where did you configure the RTP port range?
17:14.32Mother_in SIPDefault.cnf?
17:14.45Groobylol
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17:14.46Groobyi have no clue
17:14.48outtoluncthat link you did is for gaff guards
17:14.51Groobynever had cisco phones
17:14.59eipii have problem authenticanting SIP friends from database (sip_friends). ANyone have working and want help me?
17:15.17km-Buckingham Pole Climbers, also known as pole spikes, leg irons and pole hooks, are widely used in the CATV, Telecommunication and Electrical industries. Pole Climbers have relatively short gaffs
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17:16.57phreakI guess I'm looking for a too specifik thing, and the word is more general. So I'll check these words out, thanks y'all.
17:17.00greg_workis that still used? around here everyone seems to use boom trucks
17:17.33phreakhttp://www.linjedon.se/images/stolpsko.jpg <-- There you have exactly what I'm looking for.
17:18.21tzangerphreak: wtf is that?
17:18.35tzangerahh pole climbers
17:19.05EssobiMan.. This is aggravating the crap out of me.
17:19.24EssobiI can't get a sip type=user that'll let my as5400 land on it, no matter what I do.
17:20.11tzangerouttolunc: aha
17:20.50outtolunci honestly have never seen a pair like that
17:21.36bjohnsonroamer323: what's the question?
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17:22.46EssobiI'm getting a 404 not found error from * to my as5400.
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17:26.24SignutsHey all, i've got a probably simple question about the VoiceMail() app. When a user presses * it throw's me into the 'a' extension, and i'm going to exec VoiceMailMain(u${EXTEN}@mycontext), but ${EXTEN} doesn't seem to be set, as it still asks for the mailbox #
17:26.57SignutsI am probably using the wrong variable, but can't seem to locate the proper one to use
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17:31.38km-tzanger: is therre something special I need to do to make asterisk keep the ANI?
17:31.52km-tzanger: I'm noticing that I'm not getting caller ID info on any calls coming into the system
17:32.16km-watching gastman, it says "<unknown>" on the caller id
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17:32.52LarsAChow can I receive calls from two sip providers?
17:33.04LarsACit seems, sip.conf allows only one in the general section
17:33.17km-huh?  You can register as many as you'd like
17:33.25km-my box at home had 6 seperate providers
17:33.54LarsACso you simply use several register lines ?
17:33.54km-right
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17:34.05km-define multiple friend entries and then use multiple register lines
17:34.35LarsACI dont have a fried entry at all for now
17:34.45bjohnsontype=users for incoming calls
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17:34.49EC-ASPHi
17:35.04EC-ASPI'm coming in search of clue
17:35.29bjohnson42
17:35.30EC-ASPI'm running a Debian sarge with the latest drivers
17:35.33EC-ASPfor a TE110
17:35.37lorionI need a recommendation for a free SIP Softphone to test with, not X-Lite.
17:35.40EC-ASPit has been working well
17:35.41bjohnsonuh sorry .. jumped straight to the answer
17:35.47LarsACso the register  stuff should rather go to individual sections rather than to general ?
17:35.48EC-ASP:)
17:35.52km-lorion: whats the problem with x-lite?
17:36.01km-larsac: no, the register lines show up under general
17:36.12EC-ASPproblem, after upgrading kernel, module no longer loads
17:36.17km-larsac: you just need to define user entries for the lines you register
17:36.20EC-ASPZT_SPANCONFIG failed on span 1: No such device or address (6)
17:36.23km-ec-asp: recompile the drivers
17:36.27lorionkm-: i am getting one way audio and a message that reade Maximum retries exceeded on call.
17:36.27EC-ASPI did
17:36.36km-lorion: are you using nat?
17:36.37LarsACkm-: to dial out or to be called ?
17:36.41EC-ASPchecked out the latest drivers as well
17:36.43EC-ASPout of cvs
17:36.52lorionkm-: yes
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17:37.05km-ec-asp: I'm running debian sarge on a 2.6.10 system and zaptel and wct4xxp load fine
17:37.09lorionkm-: I created a static nat for testing.. still no luck
17:37.29EC-ASPWell, actually they load but ztcfg complains and Asterisk doesn't start
17:37.30LarsACec-asp: 2.6.9-smp works fine too
17:37.35Mother_hah
17:37.39km-lorion: whenever i've had problems with x-lite, nat has been to blame.  I use x-lite here at the office without NAT and it works fine.
17:37.48Mother_if I map the entire port range the Cisco pretends to use, it works
17:37.55km-ec-asp: does the console show "Found a wildcard" type of message?
17:38.10eipii have problem authenticanting SIP from database (sip_friends). ANyone have working and want help me?
17:38.21EC-ASPkm-,  console only says something when I load zaptel
17:38.21lorionkm-: I am positive it is a nat issue.
17:38.31EC-ASPbut wcte11xp is silent
17:38.37km-lorion: have you thought about trying an iax soft phone as opposed to a sip?
17:38.47km-iax is less nat-annoyed
17:39.12LarsACkm-: is there only one context in which I can handle incoming calls ?
17:39.14lorionkm-: no I am pretty new to this.
17:39.42km-larsac: there's one context that sip calls dump into, but you can define the extension that the calls come in from
17:39.44lorionkm-: I am assuming an iax phone would be configured in the IAX.conf file
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17:39.57LarsACkm-: okay, starting to get it
17:40.13km-if you say register=> yourname:yourpass@sip.provider.com/1000, all incoming calls will go to 1000@sipcontext
17:40.17km-or something to that effect
17:40.26km-the /1000 part is what I'm trying to illustrate
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17:40.59*** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || Dev Conf 1PM CST FEB 24th -> IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 || ClueCon Dev Conf June 8-10th more coming soon....
17:41.03km-I had a context called [voipincoming] where I defined multiple extensions and then sent calls out from that extension
17:41.08km-larsac: yeah.
17:41.10lorionBRB Lunch...
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17:41.39EC-ASPI'm a bit annoyed at this issue, it's not the first time
17:41.53loud2.6.10 problems ?
17:41.56EC-ASPkind of frustrating, an error that doesn't give a clue as to what's wrong
17:41.57EC-ASPyep
17:42.17EC-ASP2.6.9 fine, 2.6.10 no way
17:42.23loudyep, happened to me too
17:42.32loudfc3 ?
17:42.43EC-ASPsorry, fc 3?
17:42.48loudfedora core 3 ?
17:42.56EC-ASPnope, Debian 3.1 (sarge)
17:43.00km-I dunno what the issue is with you guys, I'm using 2.6.10 with my te405p
17:43.08EC-ASPstock kernel?
17:43.09km-detects the card, spans all come up just fine
17:43.12loudi assume you have edited the udev stuff already
17:43.12km-yep, stock kernel
17:43.14zapahi all,can anyone help me, i am having this error, i don´t know wha coul be wrong chan_zap.c:7394 pri_dchannel: PRI got event: HDLC Abort (6) on Primary D-channel of span 1
17:43.14EC-ASPmaybe a library function?
17:43.25marc_ccan one T1 PRI be shared among more than one box?
17:43.25EC-ASPkm-,  can you lsmod for us?
17:43.46km-Module                  Size  Used by
17:43.46km-wct4xxp                71232  0
17:43.46km-zaptel                225188  59 wct4xxp
17:43.46km-pbx01:/etc/asterisk#
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17:44.10EC-ASPSo, not crc or anything
17:44.15EC-ASPHmmmm...
17:44.28km-I have those compiled into the kernel
17:44.34EC-ASPah
17:44.46km-pbx01:/etc/asterisk# zcat /proc/config.gz |grep -i crc
17:44.46km-CONFIG_CRYPTO_CRC32C=y
17:44.46km-CONFIG_CRC_CCITT=y
17:44.46km-CONFIG_CRC32=y
17:44.46km-CONFIG_LIBCRC32C=y
17:44.56loudoh wait
17:44.58loudzaptel                191236  55 wcfxo,wctdm,wct1xxp
17:45.03loud2.6.10-1.741_FC3smp
17:45.05loudit does work.
17:45.16km-bbiafm
17:45.28outtolunc2.6.10-1.14_FC2 works also
17:45.28eipii have problem authenticanting SIP from database (sip_friends). ANyone have working and want to help me? (i configured extconfig.conf, created tables, have unixodbc working). Voicemail, voicemessages and extensions are working from db
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17:46.41lyroySomeone know what is the phone number for DIDnumbers please.
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17:47.03loudwhiskey tango foxtrot ?
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17:47.47eipitango yes... foxtrot maybe... whiskey on the rocks please
17:48.21Beirdoeipi: better not be scotch on the rocks, that's heresy
17:48.23loud:D
17:48.36alt_philHey all.  Anyone out there have issues with getting a Digium Wildcard TE110P T1 card syncing to the telco as your clock source?  I've set my timersource to 1 for the span, yet the card still reports its sync source as internally synced and we're getting tons of frame slips.
17:48.38Signutsanyone familiar with asterisk VoiceMail() , When someone presses '#' it forwards me to the 'a' extension, but I seem to be losing the # dialed, (I don't want the user to have to enter their mailbox #)
17:48.54marc_ccan a T1 PRI line be shared among more than one server?
17:49.13loudmarc_c, if you do iax trunks, maybe
17:49.29ChrisRouseSignuts: Maybe I am not understanding the question. Is your problem that you want the person to not have to dial in their extension?
17:49.40pcmalt_phill: digium tech support
17:49.48pcmalt_phill: call :)
17:49.49ChrisRouseSignuts: Like having Asterisk know what exten you are dialing from?
17:49.51xeet2alt_phil:  if it can't sync, it will try internally clocked
17:50.12xeet2alt_phil: make sure you are set to the right framing and linecode, that can make it not sync up
17:50.20lyroyDoes someone know what is the phone of Bell Canada, I need get info for DID numbers and I can get that number on the website?
17:50.43SignutsChrisRouse, basically I call voicemail() and if the users presses * it takes them to voicemailMain() in the 'a' extension. asterisk asks for the mailbox number, when i'm already calling voicemailmain like, VoiceMailMain(${EXTEN}@vmcontext)
17:51.07ChrisRouseSignuts: Let me check for you.
17:51.08Signuts${EXTEN} expands to 'a' I think, it is not infact their phone number (which is also their mailbox #)
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17:51.34SignutsChrisRouse, it'd be niec if I could do a variable dump on a call. it'd be nice to see what's set =)
17:51.59ChrisRouseSignuts: You can look up the NoOp() command
17:52.32SignutsI did find that, but it's a pain to make up variables names that mighthelp. I checked NoOP(${ARG1}) and NoOp(${ARG2}) with no avail
17:54.18ChrisRouseSignuts: Do you know what ${EXTEN} is giving you back?
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17:55.18Signuts${EXTEN} seems to be printing 'a'
17:55.50ChrisRouseSignuts: What about {$CALLERID}?
17:56.23ChrisRouseSignuts: It seems that when you transfer to the "a" extension that it is overriding the ${EXTEN} variable.
17:56.45Signutsyeah, i'll check CALLERID, but i'm not necessarily calling from my extension, so it'd fill in a bad mailbox #
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17:57.55ChrisRouseSignuts: Then how would you stop the user from having to type their extension?
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17:58.12SignutsChrisRouse, ${CALLERID} fills in properly with the # i'm coming from.
17:58.23ChrisRouseSignuts: Unless I misunderstood
17:58.26SignutsChrisRouse, they variable i'm trying to get is the phone number dialed
17:58.45|Vulture|Signuts: then you want {$EXTEN}
17:58.48|Vulture|urg
17:58.54|Vulture|${EXTEN}
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17:59.25Hmmhesaysare sipura's spa2000's reliable?
17:59.38alt_philI'd say so.  I've got 20 of 'em at work
17:59.39Signutsthey dial their voicemail box, say it's 1234, in which I call VoiceMail(1234), but in VoiceMail app, if they press *, it jumps to 'a' extension, in the a extension, ${EXTEN} is set to 'a', when in fact it should be the number dialed. I'm running asterisk 1.0.5
17:59.42|Vulture|Hmmhesays: for what?
17:59.43loudabsolutely.
17:59.49alt_philthe spa2000's aren't bad at all
17:59.52|Vulture|for phones they are great
17:59.57Hmmhesayswant to put them as off site extensions for home users
18:00.00|Vulture|for fax they are pretty good
18:00.06Hmmhesaysto their main office pbx
18:00.07|Vulture|but then again fax is so so
18:00.20|Vulture|Hmmhesays: yea good choice
18:00.28Hmmhesaysthat's what I needed to know
18:00.31SedoroxSignuts: for voicemail.. use # instead of * to pass the extention
18:00.34alt_philI dunno about fax on the 2000's.  We had tons of problems with them and ended up going with a 4 port TDM card for our faxes
18:00.39ChrisRouse|Vulture| Does ${EXTEN} get replaced when the script transfers to an extension?
18:00.49Hmmhesaysthese users wont' be doing fax, so we're golden
18:00.59ChrisRouseSignuts: Why do you have them hitting *? or is that what voicemail does?
18:01.12Juggieit says on the wiki that voicemail is limited to 99 messages per inbox, does anyone know if that is still the case?
18:01.20|Vulture|ChrisRouse: not sure, you might need to store it as a global variable if your passing it between contexts
18:01.22Signutsit's built into the VoiceMail() app, '*' is my only option
18:01.41alt_philyes Juggie, it is.  I have to run an autodelete script to keep my messages down.
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18:01.58ChrisRouse|Vulture| Ohh variables. did not know that you could create your own. Must investigate.
18:02.00Sedoroxhmmm
18:02.02Hmmhesaysnow I just have to make sure 2x TDM400P's with 4 fxo modules a piece will work fine in a 2.8ghz machine
18:02.30|Vulture|Hmmhesays: why not get a T100P and get a frac t1 instead of 8 POTS?
18:02.32SignutsSo I could call setVar before I exec' voicemail(), perhaps that'll do it
18:02.38alt_philI've only got one, in a 2.8 machine, it runs good.  So can't really help ya there.
18:02.45ChrisRouseSignuts: The documentation for VoicemailMain tells me that * is for help.
18:03.00Hmmhesays|Vulture| because they have 8 pots lines, and that's pretty much written in stone at this location
18:03.16ChrisRouseSignuts: You should already be in the voicemail box at this point.
18:03.16Hmmhesaysthis is in the middle of bumfark north dakota
18:03.22Juggiealt_phil, do you know if the 99 limit exists in CVS head still?
18:03.26|Vulture|ah, well I know 1 TDM400 with 4 FXO works great on my Dell SC420 2.8s
18:03.50|Vulture|Hmmhesays: and 2.8 is overkill if your not using any compression for a system like that
18:04.05Hmmhesaysyeah a 2.8ghz machine should be able to handle 8 calls.... voice compression for the 5-6 offsite extensions
18:04.08alt_philJuggie:  I know it does in CVS-v1-0-02
18:04.09SignutsChrisRouse, I may be confusing us, there are two applications here. pressing star in VoiceMail() takes me to the 'a' extension, at which point I call VoiceMailMain()
18:04.11|Vulture|but I've always liked overkill vs too little machine
18:04.27Hmmhesaysyes... i don't need to be hearing back from these people after i've done this install
18:04.30|Vulture|Hmmhesays: yes, you will be fine
18:05.02ChrisRouseSignuts: Ok, so * is your extension definition. So if you are not calling from your own extension then how do you get the voicemail box.
18:05.30|Vulture|Hmmhesays: I have a dual xeon 2.8 for 46 lines with 7 * boxes interconnected with ilibc between and SIP to phones, the tests show it as overkill
18:05.40Hmmhesaysnice
18:06.16|Vulture|$1400 after tax and S&H... I thought it was cheap as hell... 2U from dell
18:06.25Sedoroxhmm
18:06.31Sedoroxwhat model?
18:06.34|Vulture|2850
18:06.40Sedoroxhmmm
18:07.04|Vulture|1GB ram and 73GIG UW320 drive, this is a test model
18:07.14EC-ASParg, I'm stuck
18:07.20|Vulture|the production one will be just around 2k with Raid 1 and redundant PSUs
18:07.20EC-ASPnow 2.6.9 doesn't work also
18:07.26*** part/#asterisk LenzX (~lenz-ml@213-92-107-83.f5.ngi.it)
18:07.40EC-ASPwhy can't they get these drivers straight? :(
18:07.59EC-ASPI have never seen those problems with any other hardware
18:08.11EC-ASP(end of rant)
18:08.20outtoluncmake sure you uname -r actually equals your *current* sourcecode
18:08.32EC-ASPverified
18:08.40EC-ASPuname -r is 2.6.10, source is 2.6.10
18:08.41outtoluncand the error you get US?
18:08.47|Vulture|2.6.9-1.667 works fine here
18:08.54outtoluncer is?
18:08.55EC-ASPs5:~# modprobe wcte11xp
18:08.56EC-ASPZT_SPANCONFIG failed on span 1: No such device or address (6)
18:08.56EC-ASPFATAL: Error running install command for wcte11xp
18:09.07|Vulture|lspci -vv
18:09.09outtolunclsmod
18:09.31EC-ASP0000:00:09.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface
18:09.31EC-ASP<PROTECTED>
18:09.31EC-ASP<PROTECTED>
18:09.31EC-ASP<PROTECTED>
18:09.33EC-ASP(etc, etc)
18:09.35KalD|WorkEC-ASP, did you check /proc/pci to make sure the kernel sees the card?
18:09.43*** join/#asterisk santiago (~santiago@63.245.86.121)
18:09.48EC-ASPs5:~# lsmod
18:09.49EC-ASPModule                  Size  Used by
18:09.49EC-ASPwcte11xp               21696  0
18:09.49EC-ASPzaptel                216836  1 wcte11xp
18:09.49EC-ASPcrc32                   2976  0
18:09.49EC-ASPcrc32c                   800  0
18:09.51EC-ASPlibcrc32c               1536  1 crc32c
18:09.54bkw_EC-ASP, SMACK
18:09.55EC-ASPcapability              2888  0
18:09.57EC-ASPcommoncap               3360  1 capability
18:09.57JuggieSTOP PASTEING
18:09.57bkw_use a paste bin
18:09.58|Vulture|no more
18:09.59Beirdo~pastebin
18:10.00jbotpastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
18:10.00*** kick/#asterisk [EC-ASP!~bkw_@bkw.developer.and.friend.of.asterisk] by bkw_ (bkw_)
18:10.08|Vulture|lol
18:10.13Beirdo~nickometer EC-ASP
18:10.13jbot'EC-ASP' is 97.970% lame, beirdo
18:10.17|Vulture|damn he was about to paste all that?
18:10.20bkw_yes
18:10.27|Vulture|~nickometer |Vulture|
18:10.27jbot'|Vulture|' is 26.000% lame, |vulture|
18:10.28Juggie~nickometer Juggie
18:10.28jbot'Juggie' is 0.000% lame, juggie
18:10.28bkw_I took care of it my childeren
18:10.34Juggiescore.
18:10.36|Vulture|hahah Juggie rox!
18:10.39bkw_~nickometer bkw_
18:10.39jbot'bkw_' is 0.000% lame, bkw_
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18:10.42outtoluncwhen you were gonna compile did you modprobe -r the wct and the zaptel before reloading?
18:10.44EC-ASPsorry
18:10.48KalD|Work~nickometer KalD|Work
18:10.48jbot'KalD|Work' is 61.000% lame, kald|work
18:10.52KalD|Workouch
18:10.57KalD|Workthat's over half
18:11.00|Vulture|EC-ASP: try pastebin.ca next time
18:11.09bkw_NEXT!!!
18:11.19|Vulture|:P
18:11.28Juggiebkw, i'm doing up asterisk against a RFP at work, the wiki says voicemail is restricted to 99 messages per box, is this still the case?
18:11.29[Outcast]bkw_ : rofl
18:11.53EC-ASPouttolunc,  I did
18:11.55EC-ASPeven rebooted
18:12.00|Vulture|Juggie: I can confirm thats the case in 1.0.5
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18:12.09Juggieseems like an odd limit, since messages are stored as msg####
18:12.15BrianR___Juggie: I think it's 99 per folder..
18:12.16EC-ASPOddly, this box has been working well
18:12.18EC-ASPwith 2.6.9
18:12.22outtoluncare you doing make clean; make linux26; make install?
18:12.28EC-ASPouttolunc,  yes
18:12.35outtoluncare you reading the output for errrors
18:12.40EC-ASPI think I've done it like 5 or 6 times today :)
18:12.42EC-ASPyes
18:12.42|Vulture|BrianR___: that would make sense I just know INBOX will max at 99
18:12.53EC-ASPno errors apart from two innocent-looking compiler warnings
18:13.01outtoluncwell there has to be an error somewhere, if NOT, then move the card slot
18:13.04BrianR___I wonder if that's a configurable limit somewhere...
18:13.05Sedoroxmake linux26?
18:13.19|Vulture|BrianR___: not in any conf, prolly in the actual source
18:13.40BrianR___It certainly makes sense to have some limit lower than 10k messages to prevent wierd problems from filling your VM system..
18:13.41|Vulture|I remember someone talking about doing a patch for it but duno how that turned out
18:13.57|Vulture|BrianR___: yea thats how I found out the limit was 99 :P
18:14.21Juggievery odd limit
18:14.32EC-ASPouttolunc,  but it has worked right in the same slot where it is now
18:14.34Juggieespicially since the files are msg####
18:14.40Juggieso it already has room for 9999 there.
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18:14.56BrianR___99 is a sensible default for the inbox.. I'd argue for an even lower default as most users don't get many messages...
18:14.58outtoluncec: so, the bus could have reset
18:15.12BrianR___would be nice to have it configurable though.
18:15.12outtoluncyou are 'trying' to get an error at this stage
18:15.13|Vulture|yea 99 msgs is crazy to be in an inbox
18:15.15tzangerBrianR___: ok looking at putting DISA in here
18:15.17JuggieBrianR___, thats true, but i have to present the limits of the system
18:15.20BeirdoBrianR___: as long as it can be overridden, 99 should be fine :)
18:15.29Juggiei would rather say there are no limits, and you can set max to whatever u want
18:15.33BrianR___tzanger: Oh. I already tested DISA for MWI - doesn't work.
18:15.35Juggieis there a setting for max in voicemail.conf?
18:15.40|Vulture|no
18:15.42Beirdobut really.  who leaves 99 in there anyways
18:15.48tzangerBrianR___: dammit
18:15.49tzangerheh
18:15.54tzangerI just assigned a DISA DN to 0000123
18:15.55JuggieBeirdo, thats not the point.
18:15.55EC-ASPouttolunc,  now resetting...
18:15.58|Vulture|Beirdo: people who don't check the mail and let it fill up
18:16.06BrianR___tzanger: I got 4 ports from the norstar connecting to asterisk over VMI's though. And working disconnect supervision now.
18:16.07KalD|WorkEC-ASP, have you tried changing the base location in the Makefile to point to where /proc/pci thinks your card is at?
18:16.15BeirdoJuggie: I know, you need to know what the limit actually is. :)
18:16.24BrianR___tzanger: The VMI's even hunt and vice-versa.
18:16.26|Vulture|Juggie just likes to be able to tell them they can have "Unlimited"
18:16.29eipii have problem authenticanting SIP from database (sip_friends). ANyone have working and want to help me? (i configured extconfig.conf, created tables, have unixodbc working). Voicemail, voicemessages and extensions are working from db
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18:16.59EC-ASPKalD|Work,  I'll do now, because last reboot hasn't changed anything
18:17.05BrianR___tzanger: I will try to do a writeup on this setup soon. It's probably the only way to cheaply integrate asterisk with smaller norstars like the 3x8 and the 6x16 and so on.
18:17.13tzangerBrianR___: using Dial(,,H)
18:17.19tzangerBrianR___: yeah
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18:17.35Juggieon a side note however MWI works perfect from voicemail
18:17.40Juggieon both my cisco and mitel sip phones.
18:18.02|Vulture|Polycom too :)
18:18.14Sedoroxand BT100's
18:18.28BrianR___tzanger: Yep. FOr incoming calls it's Dial(local/in@fromvmi/n,10,H) The '/n' is very important too - it keeps the local channel from getting optimized out of the route.
18:18.31BrianR___tzanger: s/route/path
18:18.36BrianR___tzanger: For outbound calls, use 'h'
18:18.38Juggiewell theres no limit of 99 in the file structure
18:18.46Juggiei'll have to check out the source.
18:19.06tzangerBrianR___: interesting, I didn't know there was a '/n' part
18:19.06BrianR___tzanger: In 1.0.5, I changed the disconnect tone from '*' to 'D' - it's configurable in the CVS version from features.conf though.
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18:20.01jaydenhey tzanger... wassup
18:20.04BrianR___tzanger: '/n' means "no native transfer" or something to that effect. It keeps that Dial from getting optimized away so it's always there listening for the disconnect DTMF tone. Otherwise you'd have to make sure the 'D' is in every dial statement in your dialplan - and even then you might wind up with trouble on things like meetme.
18:20.22tzangerBrianR___: I understand
18:20.43BrianR___tzanger: But the disconnect supervision is flawless now for both inbound and outbound calls
18:21.20BrianR___tzanger: I also found out that the caller-id on the VMI boxes I have here is junk. Bought a standalone pots phone with callerid and it still doesn't work.
18:21.42EC-ASPKalD|Work,  baseaddr is memory region or I/O ports?
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18:21.47KalD|Worki/o
18:22.35BrianR___is there a devel conf call coming up?
18:22.38tzangerBrianR___: how do I flash on a norstar set?
18:22.45|Vulture|at 2 est right?
18:23.04BrianR___tzanger: feature 71. Not sure if it will flash non-trunk pots lines though.
18:23.13Mother_in sip who sets the rtp port, asterisk or the client?
18:23.32EC-ASPKalD|Work,  no luck... Same message
18:23.47KalD|WorkEC-ASP, you did a make clean etc
18:23.50Juggielooking at app_voicemail.c i dont see any restriction for 99 yet... anyways i'm only about 1/2 way.
18:23.58EC-ASPnope, I'll compile from clean now
18:24.25Juggiethe only code i read so far which could affect was the count messages function
18:24.35Juggieand it was written withno limit.
18:24.55tzangerhmm
18:25.01tzangerI must have something wrong with DISA
18:25.08|Vulture|Juggie: the limit is actually 100
18:25.15Juggie#define MAXMSG 100
18:25.16|Vulture|msg0000.txt
18:25.18tzangerI can't even hit another extension from it
18:25.19Juggieaha
18:25.30tzangerI get stutter dial tone (MICS intenral)
18:25.36tzangerbut then I can't hit anything
18:25.39|Vulture|Juggie: :)
18:26.05Juggiei wonder what happens once asterisk reaches msg9999.txt
18:26.19|Vulture|Juggie: that would be easy to movie into voicemail.conf
18:26.19BrianR___mailbox full?
18:26.22Juggiei dont think it fills in the gaps of messages you delete.
18:26.36Juggiewell, if there are only like 50 messages...
18:26.40Juggielet me test something.
18:26.55|Vulture|brb food
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18:27.55tzangeryup I just have too much security on my DISA
18:28.19EC-ASPKalD|Work,  no joy; same error
18:28.32tzangerPRI-A (line1-23) has access, remote package 01, whee
18:28.42KalD|WorkEC-ASP, hmmm...  what does dmesg report?
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18:29.33EC-ASPnot much actually
18:29.41EC-ASPno more than what I get interactively
18:29.43Juggieok, so i left 3 msgs, and then deleted # 2
18:29.49Juggiewhich is msg0001.*
18:29.56Juggielets see how it handels the numbering
18:30.00EC-ASPzaptel loads and unloads
18:30.01EC-ASPZapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196
18:30.04EC-ASPand
18:30.09EC-ASPZapata Telephony Interface Unloaded
18:30.32EC-ASPbut ztcfg -vv says, well, that dreaded no such device...
18:30.47*** join/#asterisk phantam (~root@63.210.60.199)
18:30.53Juggiehmm... it worked find as it moved all played messages to old
18:31.10tzangerBrianR___: ok how do I set up DISA properly
18:31.13Juggieso the file system should be no restriction on the inbox
18:32.21sivana~seen sixtel
18:32.23jbotsixtel <sixtel@sixTel.iax.cc> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 49d 13h 13m 38s ago, saying: 'no such host, not in sip.conf right'.
18:32.49phantamhey guys
18:32.51phantamquick question
18:33.12[Outcast]shoot
18:33.13phantamdoes anyone know how to change the location where the cdr/csv is saved
18:33.56EC-ASPnah
18:33.59EC-ASPZT_SPANCONFIG failed on span 1: No such device or address (6)
18:34.04EC-ASPfrustrating
18:34.13*** join/#asterisk {Sean} (~sean@adsl-69-214-130-169.dsl.lgtpmi.ameritech.net)
18:34.25{Sean}anyone done an application where it allows the called to choose their own MOH?
18:34.31{Sean}caller rather
18:35.15visik7I want * on my mobile phone :)
18:35.27visik7is there a port on symbian :)
18:35.32phantam:(
18:36.28*** join/#asterisk visik7 (~ciao@visik7.user)
18:36.32[Outcast]phantam: tring to find an aswer one sec
18:36.57phantamthx
18:37.03BrianR___tzanger: Just set the DISA DN to the suffix of an unused DID on your PRI.
18:37.17tzangeryes
18:37.18tzangerI did htat
18:37.34tzangerand when I dial it I get a stutter dialtone for a second or two and hten the MICS' internal dialtone
18:37.44tzangerbut I can't dial a 3-digit exten or an extenral number
18:37.57Juggiei think i'll have a crack at making vm limit configurable, anyone up for testing it when i'm done?
18:38.47phantamim waiting on someone in the world to fix h323
18:38.50phantamlol
18:39.24eipianyone is workign with odbc?
18:40.11phantamnot odbc but eventually gonna try to figure out how to save all my cvs's in a mysql
18:40.24phantamon a remote server but havent yet figured out how to accomplish it
18:40.25phantamlol
18:40.34greg_workJuggie: vm limit ? how many messages per box you mean?
18:40.38eipiok
18:41.34ChrisRouseAnyone have experience with Cisco Call Manager Integration?
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18:44.15BrianR___tzanger: The stutter dialtone wants a COS password, I think. Once you enter that you get an internal dialtone with access level controlled by the COS password.
18:45.31ChrisRouseMaybe a question that is more specific
18:46.00phantamhmm
18:46.08phantami have a feeling [Outcast] isnt having much luck
18:46.09phantamlol
18:46.19ChrisRouseHow do I get Asterisk to reconize an extesion when I have integrated the system with Call Manager
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18:46.23phantamanyone else know
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18:47.23ChrisRouseSorry really new to all of this.
18:48.39tzangerBrianR___: ahhh
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18:50.08lyroy_Does someone knoe if the Linksys (Vonage) can work with an asterisk server or if it is lockeed
18:50.32greg_workChrisRouse: asterisk is all about contexts. to dial an extension, it has to have an exten=> line in or included in the current context
18:50.48JerJerlyroy_ yes....they are not locked, just pre-configured
18:51.35ChrisRousegreg_work: I understand that. I am able to dial from my phone into the agent application. I can even enter my password for the agent I defined. However, I am unable to specify the extension that I am calling from so that AgentCallbackLogin can call me back.
18:51.47lyroy_so do I need to put another fireware or use the one that is aleready there?
18:52.17ChrisRouseI have gotten the Agent system to work if I sit in the Queue but we are looking for Asterisk to call the Agent when there is a client in the queue for that Agent.
18:52.43SedoroxChrisRouse: look into AgentCallBack
18:53.07Sedoroxyou'll notice, especially if you look on the console
18:53.30ChrisRouseSedorox: I have and every time I type in an extension it tells me that the extension is not valid
18:53.32Sedoroxthat it uses the CID to set the callback number
18:53.50Sedoroxhmmm
18:53.53*** part/#asterisk phantam (~root@63.210.60.199)
18:53.58ChrisRouseSedorox: Let me double check
18:54.35Sedoroxlike for example.. my phone is on extention 2001, and thats what the phone is setup with.. so when I login to the agent.. it see's it as 2001, and uses that as the call back number
18:55.12ChrisRouseSedorox: Do you mean AgentCallbackLogin? That is what I am attempting to use.
18:55.20Sedoroxyea.. sorry
18:55.34ChrisRouseSedorox: The system prompts me for a new extension.
18:55.52bjohnsonlyroy: jerjer loves to say that.  the simple fact is that if you have a voip provider supplied pap2 (not a PAP2-NA), unless you have access to Sipura development tools, you will be unable to use it with anything else
18:55.58ChrisRouseSedorox: So when I type my extension the system tells me that it is not a valid extension for that agent.
18:56.11SedoroxI don't have mine setup like that...
18:56.12Sedoroxsorry
18:57.02Beirdomy PAP2 is almost due for some speed-holes
18:57.13ChrisRouseSedorox: Do you have your system set up as Asterisk is your call manager?
18:57.18Beirdoif I weren't so busy working on other stuff it'd be there already :)
18:57.21*** join/#asterisk Gh0sty (~Ghosty@ip-81-11-230-248.dsl.scarlet.be)
18:57.37bjohnsonspeed-holes?
18:57.43Beirdoyeah
18:57.47Beirdolike on the simpsons
18:57.51bjohnsonwhat is a speed-hole?
18:58.02ChrisRouseSedorox: I am also getting Feb 24 10:56:48 WARNING[27144]: chan_agent.c:1282 __login_exec: Extension '1902' is not valid for automatic login of agent '1001'
18:58.02Beirdowhen homer took the pickaxes to his car to give it speed holes
18:58.10jsolaresrofl Beirdo
18:58.10bjohnsonodd
18:58.13Groobylol
18:58.27Groobyi was thinking in terms of a hole on the speedometer
18:58.30bjohnsonmissed that one I guess
18:58.32BeirdoFeb 24 13:41:26 NOTICE[1060]: chan_iax2.c:5673 socket_read: Peer 'voipjet' is now TOO LAGGED (2045 ms)!
18:58.38jsolaresit was very funny
18:58.39Beirdoargh
18:58.40Grooby"but officer, I don't have 60mph, I only have 80mph and up"
18:58.46SedoroxI'm not sure... sorry
18:58.54SedoroxI followed the guide on voip-supply
18:58.56Beirdoit was a good episode
18:59.00bjohnsonBeirdo: 42 ms for me
18:59.15ChrisRouseSedorox: I will look into it. Maybe it can help me too. Thank you VERY much for the help.
18:59.16Beirdoit does this every so often
18:59.22Sedoroxyup
18:59.25Sedoroxsory I couldn't help more
18:59.30ChrisRouseSedorox: I do appriciate it. At least it is a different direction.
18:59.31Beirdobut my connection to FWD's IAX doesn't slip
18:59.46bjohnson30 ms for me
18:59.47EC-ASPGuys, I have this server that suddenly doesn't work with a TE110p with which it was perfectly happy before
18:59.50*** join/#asterisk darkskiez (~mhb@host-84-9-91-127.bulldogdsl.com)
18:59.50EC-ASPand at the same time
18:59.51BeirdoI swear, voipjet has craptacular connectivity or soemthing
18:59.53bjohnsoniaxtel I gave up on though
18:59.56EC-ASPbind 9 doesn't work
19:00.00EC-ASPdoes that ring a bell?
19:00.02|Vulture|so is the dev conf starting now?
19:00.11|Vulture|anyone know what the discussion is going to be?
19:00.12Beirdoit says 54ms right now
19:00.33bjohnson|Vulture|: yeah .. lets go eavesdrop
19:00.43ChrisRouseSedorox: What is the URL for that site?
19:00.49Sedorox~docs
19:00.50jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
19:01.02Sedoroxsecond to the last
19:01.05tzangerBrianR___: you're right, set a cos password and get another dialtone I can dial out on now but can't do anything else... I can't call an internal extension or anything
19:01.07bjohnsonor .. let's bash Beirdo on HIS meetme
19:01.18bjohnsonwuaa haaa haa
19:01.27Beirdohmm?
19:01.36BeirdoI don't have meetme setup yet :)
19:01.54bjohnsonIAX2/guest@rakdanit.shavedgoats.net/3100
19:02.00tzangershavedgoats hahaha
19:02.16jsolareshehe
19:02.22*** join/#asterisk mbranca_home (~matteo@host-84-222-6-8.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)
19:02.30Beirdothat's mishehu's setup :)
19:03.06Groobylol
19:03.36BrianR___tzanger: Now that's odd. Make sure the remote access profile is not buggered.
19:03.50tzangeryeah it could be, heh
19:03.57|Vulture|bjohnson: I am listening now
19:04.14|Vulture|talking about codec mismatches with reinvite
19:04.30Groobywhat are you guys listening to?
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19:04.39tzangerBrianR___: linepool access is PRI-A only (all I have), remote page=n,
19:04.40tzangerthat's it
19:04.42Groobyhow to shave goats?
19:05.01BuckRogerswow
19:05.09jsolaresGrooby: i think the thing on the topic
19:05.29BuckRogersthere was a time in this room when VoIP was discused
19:05.40jsolaresyou lie!
19:05.53BuckRogerstzanger, knows what im talking about
19:05.57tzangerI do?
19:06.01tzangerheh
19:06.09|Vulture|no, we always just talked about moose penis
19:06.25BuckRogersok thats just plain old inapporparate
19:06.25Groobystupid trillian...can't view topic
19:06.26Groobysigh
19:06.39Beirdoso don't use stupid trillian :)
19:06.51Groobyi refuse!
19:06.54BrianR___tzanger: That _should_ work... I don't think I had to configure anything else for extension dialling here.
19:06.55*** join/#asterisk r1 (~erwan@www.thiscow.com)
19:07.07Groobylike how I still use rotary phone here at home
19:07.21Groobyshinny red phone labeled "bat phone"
19:07.38tzangerhmmfdsa
19:07.40tzangerodd
19:07.41|Vulture|lol with a plexiglass buble around it?
19:07.53Groobyhow you know?!?!
19:07.53*** join/#asterisk zno (~zeno@ip-160-79-174-102.autorev.intellispace.net)
19:07.54Groobylol
19:07.57|Vulture|;)
19:08.26Groobythe "batstrisk"
19:08.39*** join/#asterisk |Barcode (~uid@h-68-165-204-41.chcgilgm.covad.net)
19:08.44|Vulture|roary that generates tone dialing?
19:08.54znowhen I park someone the parked call extension is not read back.  I see in the log that it started playing back 7 - 0 and then it gets cutoff
19:09.07Groobysure...hehehehe
19:09.09znoI just updated cvs 5 minutes ago
19:09.58znohowever, when I directly dial 700 (parking ext) I get the parked extension read back to me
19:10.15znomaybe it's my phone?
19:11.12Groobytime for some mandarine chicken from wendy's
19:11.48tzangerwho's talking right now
19:11.53tzangermark or brian?
19:12.19tzangerthat's paul
19:12.58yashain Asterisk@home configs, which sections starts the dialplan?
19:13.35tzangerhe said "eeks"
19:13.37tzangerthat's mark
19:14.09Hmmhesaysif I want to add a tdm400p to a machine do I have to do anything besides modprobe zaptel wctdm ?
19:14.18HmmhesaysI mean, add a second one
19:14.21tzangerHmmhesays: nope
19:14.33Hmmhesaysperfect
19:14.53km-doesnt the tdm400p require either the wcfxo or wcfxs drivers?
19:15.00km-or has that changed since I last used it
19:15.02Hmmhesaysthe new driver is wctdm
19:15.10km-gotcha
19:15.10Groobyin order to listen to this conference, I need an iax client huh?
19:15.10Hmmhesaysas of 2/5/05
19:15.20km-oh, conference
19:15.24km-lemme jump on
19:15.41Beirdothere we go.  ilbc bridged from work
19:15.44tzanger:-)
19:15.57|Vulture|ilbc is my new fav codec
19:16.05Sedoroxlol
19:16.07bjohnsonGrooby: yes
19:16.10tzanger|Vulture|: I want to lvoe it
19:16.10Sedoroxy?
19:16.13bjohnsonGrooby: like asterisk
19:16.25|Vulture|tzanger: whats holding you back
19:16.41Groobygasp
19:16.42Groobyyou can?
19:16.58bjohnsonexten => _7,1,Dial(IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996)
19:17.02tzanger|Vulture|: it sounds like ass
19:17.04tzangercompared to gsm
19:17.08tzangerat least to everyone here at the office
19:17.11km-is this muted?
19:17.13Beirdosounds fine to me
19:17.16tzangerkm *1 toggles mute
19:17.19Groobyahhh
19:17.20|Vulture|sounds better than gsm to me
19:17.31|Vulture|much
19:17.32km-am I mute by default?
19:17.38bjohnsonany way to tell how many people in the dev conference
19:17.39|Vulture|thats strange
19:17.45tzanger|Vulture|: about 50% of the people I talk to say ilbc rocks over gsm, and the other 50% say the opposite.
19:17.52EC-ASPit seems that the cvs version of the zaptel driver guesses ok the OS version
19:17.56tzanger|Vulture|: and then invariably I get a few people saying ulaw's the only true way
19:18.03EC-ASPno joy, though, as I still can't get the 110p to work
19:18.23|Vulture|tzanger: ulaw is great, but not out over the net... too much bandwidth
19:18.29xkevqueues.conf: timeout=, is that supposed to be per member, or per round of call attempting?
19:18.30bjohnsontzanger: from what I've read .. gsm wins out over ilbc by a slight margin
19:18.48*** join/#asterisk outsidefactor (barf@203-173-32-225.dyn.iinet.net.au)
19:18.49|Vulture|yea gsm wins because it uses less bandwidth
19:18.51bjohnsonI've been using ulaw over the net but have been thinking of using gsm
19:19.00|Vulture|but I think ilbc sounds better... personally
19:19.02km-I'm using ilbc
19:19.08km-hehe
19:19.17km-ooh, is that jitter?
19:19.19tzanger|Vulture|: every time I change the codec from gsm to ilbc here I get complaints about audio quality
19:19.20km-heh
19:19.22tzangerthis is 30+ people
19:19.30bjohnsonI should connect to the conference with gsm .. just need to figure out how
19:19.46tzangerspeaker identify yourslef
19:20.11|Vulture|Im on the conf at ilbc sounds great to me
19:20.16yashaIn Asterisk@home configs, which section (like: [default]) and in what file (like: extension) starts the dialplan?
19:20.23km-I've been on it for about 4 minutes and the chopping is getting bad
19:20.30km-I'm wondering if it's jitter
19:20.32|Vulture|tzanger: is it possible because ilbc uses more bandwidth that your hitting your limit and getting choppy calls?
19:20.32tzangerkm-: sounds fine to me
19:20.36tzanger|Vulture|: no
19:20.40tzangerI'm nowhere near my limit
19:20.42tzangerit's not choppy
19:20.43|Vulture|oky
19:20.44km-it gets better for a sec, then gets worse again
19:20.45tzangerit's "gravelly"
19:20.47*** join/#asterisk ariel_ (~Ariel@dsl-20-177.cofs.net)
19:20.50bjohnsonhow do I change my codec to the dev conf?
19:20.55km-sounds like a warble almost
19:20.55Groobybjohnson, doesn't work
19:21.02bjohnsonlogs say I'm using ulaw now
19:21.06|Vulture|tzanger: what VoIP provider?
19:21.07tzangerbjohnson: create a peer and disable=all,enable=fave_codec
19:21.07bjohnsonGrooby: it is what I use
19:21.10Hmmhesaysheh, this is pretty interesting
19:21.11tzanger|Vulture|: me
19:21.19tzanger*--*--PRI
19:21.20|Vulture|tzanger: ah :)
19:21.27Groobyi got "everyone is busy/congested"
19:21.28bjohnsontzanger: what peer would it use?
19:21.29greg_workhm, so i guess app_voicemail can't send to a TAP service ....
19:21.33tzangerbjohnson: create one
19:21.46|Vulture|tzanger: who do you use as a provider? I am trying to set that up right now for my offices
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19:21.57|Vulture|tzanger: looking at XO cause of the local calling areas
19:21.57km-tzanger: think my T1 oddities are worth bringing up on the conference or should we get some more data about what's happening before we raise it as a bug?
19:21.59tzanger|Vulture|: me
19:22.00tzanger:-)
19:22.07km-we use XO here
19:22.08tzangerI my connection to the internet is through Ikano
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19:22.34|Vulture|km-: do you guys use multiple LATAs?
19:22.36PyroSteveguys, i need help with my call file
19:22.40PyroStevemy call file works
19:22.52km-uhm, dont think so,
19:22.56*** join/#asterisk Inv_arp (junya@adsl-8-230-20.mia.bellsouth.net)
19:22.58PyroStevebut I can navigate throught my server
19:23.03km-we only have numbers through our one local CO
19:23.28PyroStevemy call file is supposed to call my cellphone, and then stick the call into a context that run the DISA command
19:23.30|Vulture|km-: oky, yea I am trying to get a central office with like 2 PRIs and then all the sub offices connect to it to dial out and rx calls
19:23.37ScarletCrusaderExcuse me, dont anyone know which configuration file or program I would enter user auth for SIP phones?
19:23.49PyroSteveafter that my dtmf tones wont work so cant dial an numbers or passwords
19:24.04Groobyi am retarded
19:24.06Sedoroxbbl
19:24.08Groobyi enter the wrong ip
19:24.12|Vulture|lol
19:24.22km-ooh, I just looked up at the cisco router
19:24.26Beirdoheheh
19:24.26km-I'm getting lights
19:24.33Inv_arpScarletCrusader: sip.conf u mean?
19:24.38Groobybtw bjohnson, i am using bt headset w/ x-lite..works great..sjphone sucks
19:24.51|Vulture|km-: is that bad?
19:25.09km-orange lights
19:25.14km-bad flashing lights
19:25.31|Vulture|collisions?
19:25.58ScarletCrusaderInv_arp: i've been looking in that file but i dont see an example to actually enter auth information.  BTW i've been known to have Idiots Bliendness
19:26.42*** part/#asterisk point (~point@office.rtcomm-yug.ru)
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19:27.44bjohnsondamn .. I can connect with a staright dial command .. but can't get using a iax.conf entry to work
19:27.57bjohnsonGrooby: I use the exact sting I pasted
19:28.22Groobybjohnson, I type the wrong IP
19:28.26km-oh
19:28.36km-the orange flashy was ethernet I think
19:28.50km-for a second I thought it was T1 errors
19:30.37EC-ASPI think I got it
19:30.50EC-ASPin my haste, some usually needed options in networking were not selected
19:31.00EC-ASPNow compiling...
19:31.13km-oops
19:31.14*** part/#asterisk didz_ (didz_@200.218.192.52)
19:31.26km-time to apologize to asterisk
19:31.27km-:)
19:31.32EC-ASPhehe... I guess so
19:31.34Hmmhesayswhy is that?
19:31.36EC-ASPsorry, asterisk
19:31.45EC-ASPcause I ranted about loosy drivers
19:31.52km-he was complaining that the drivers sucked earlier :)
19:31.56Hmmhesayslol
19:32.01MeznevIs anyone using the zaptel driver in freebsd with digium cards?
19:32.05EC-ASPthough I'd like to say that the error message could be a bit more informative
19:33.08km-ec-asp: the problem may be that what happened was too generic to say specifically.  What is it supposed to say?  "No such device, meaning, you may not have the card inserted, you may have the networking drivers not compiled into your kernel, your kernel may be malfunctioning, there may be a full solar eclipse, etc"
19:33.32km-although I 100% sympathize with what you're saying
19:33.35EC-ASPkm-,  agree on that - maybe a README that lists the kernel requirements?
19:33.40znoGis anyone using Freshtel successfully?
19:33.44km-THAT is a fantastic idea
19:34.09lyroyDoes someone what is the PAP2 configuation password for Vonage please?
19:34.21km-there is a README file but it doesnt list what goodies you need
19:36.34Groobyso who has voice in this conference?
19:36.52PyroStevemy dtmf tones coming from the pstn are ingored when a call is made from a call file
19:36.58Hmmhesaysno idea
19:37.14ennuyeux7is the expression in execif the same format as that for gotoif ?
19:37.24Delvaranyone know how to use execif? i cant seem to get it to work, and yes iv read the show application :)
19:37.49Hmmhesaysdoes everyone have voice?
19:38.03Beirdolyroy: nobody will be telling you on here even if they do know, that's not something you share in a public forum
19:38.07Groobynope
19:38.12Groobyi have no idea who's talking
19:38.16Hmmhesaysme neither
19:38.20Groobyjust something about cell phones being dropped in toilet
19:38.24Delvari try execif([${VAR}=STRING]|SetVar|${VAR2}=FLIP)
19:38.26Hmmhesaysthat sound like shit
19:38.35Delvarbut doesnt actualy do anyhting
19:40.23Hmmhesaysgood lord I hate repeating myself
19:41.44*** part/#asterisk Fanguin (~Fanguin@p50818948.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
19:42.03*** join/#asterisk guugmember (~nachoramo@168.234.226.39)
19:42.14guugmemberhello guys, who has played with Varion cards
19:43.00bjohnsondamn .. put in user instead of username
19:44.14bjohnsonstill getting ulaw though
19:44.15JerJerguugmember:  they are junk
19:44.19JerJerbuy from Digium, support Asterisk
19:45.10bjohnsondamn .. No authority found
19:45.30modulus_hi jerjer
19:45.32modulus_hi bjohnson
19:45.33JerJeradd some authority then
19:45.40JerJer[bob]
19:45.42JerJertype=user
19:45.45JerJercontext=hoe
19:45.47bjohnsonfor the devcon
19:45.49km-buy digium, digium r0x
19:46.05bjohnson<PROTECTED>
19:46.08bjohnson?
19:46.21JerJerthen that box is fux0red
19:46.23JerJernot yours
19:46.33Hmmhesaysare you trying to get ot the conference?
19:46.34Hmmhesays*to
19:46.36Hmmhesayslol
19:46.43bjohnsonyes
19:47.03Hmmhesaysexten => dial,1,IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996
19:47.16JerJerdial ?!
19:47.18Hmmhesaysexten => 123456,1,IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996
19:47.20bjohnsonI can connect with ulaw with exten => _8,1,Dial(IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996) but I'm trying to force gsm
19:47.22Hmmhesaysheh
19:47.23JerJergetting closer
19:47.33Hmmhesayslol, fark
19:47.38JerJer_8 ?!
19:47.41bjohnsonerr
19:47.42bjohnson8
19:47.44bjohnsonsame thing
19:47.47modulus_jbot 50 shekel?
19:47.51ManxPowerApparently everyone's BRAIN is at LUNCH.
19:47.54JerJerhow about 996,1,Dial,IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996
19:48.06Hmmhesaysmy irc is farked
19:48.07Hmmhesaysbrb
19:48.14*** part/#asterisk Hmmhesays (negative3k@66.173.103.108)
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19:48.51bjohnsonJerJer: but how to force gsm?  I'm trying to make a iax.conf entry but keep getting no authority found
19:48.55kippihi
19:49.12znoGanyone have firefly?
19:49.14kippii have exten => 6696,1,Dial(sip/6696,20)
19:49.15km-manx: hey dude!
19:49.15kippiexten => 6696,3,Voicemail(u6696)
19:49.15kippiexten => 6696,4,Voicemail(b6696)
19:49.15kippiexten => 6666,102,Hangup
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19:49.33km-manx: my dial problem was fixed by using CVS and the "emdigitwait" variable
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19:49.52Hmmhesaysheh much better
19:49.59kippiwhen i ring my extension and no one picks it up it dosn't go to the voicemail, how to I do this?
19:50.04km-manx: apparently others have had problems with dialing times on e&m wink systems
19:50.05JerJerbjohnson:  are they allowing GSM?
19:50.12JerJermake a type=peer out of it
19:50.17bjohnsongood question
19:50.21bjohnsonI have a type-peer
19:50.25bjohnsontype=peer
19:50.34bjohnsonand get same error with allow=ulaw
19:50.35JerJer996,1,Dial,IAX2/guest@devcon/996
19:51.39JerJerhow about  /j #asterisk-dev  ?
19:52.57bjohnson?
19:53.18bjohnson?? pastebin
19:53.24bjohnson~pastebin
19:53.25jbotmethinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
19:53.25sivanaManxPower: you there?
19:54.36guugmemberJerJer, i will buy in the budget of my company for research doesnt allow me
19:55.02guugmemberJerJer, if * runs ok they will give me more budget
19:55.03bjohnsonhttp://pastebin.ca/6373 gives me chan_iax2.c:5510 socket_read: Call rejected by 66.250.68.194: No authority found
19:55.10guugmemberJerJer, do you know what I mean?
19:55.38Beirdobjohnson...
19:55.49bjohnsonbtw .. what IS difference between _8 and 8 as an extension?  Wouldn't they perform the same?
19:56.02Beirdoexten => 7,1,Dial(IAX/guest@66.250.68.194/996)
19:56.10bjohnsonBeirdo: yes I know
19:56.14Beirdono need to set up a peer :)
19:56.14|Vulture|yea I just connected to the conf in both gsm and ilbc... ilbc sounds MUCH better
19:56.22bjohnsonBeirdo: I'm trying to force a codec
19:56.26Beirdoahh
19:56.26Grooby<---- sticking with ulaw
19:56.27Groobylol
19:56.31Hmmhesaysinteresting conference
19:56.36guugmemberany other Varion user?
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19:56.42kippihi, i have http://pastebin.ca/6374 but afer about 15 secs it just hangs up and dosn't go to vouc
19:56.46bjohnsonBeirdo: I'm defaulting to ulaw .. I want to try gsm
19:56.57kippivoicemail, can anyone help?
19:57.02Delvarim off
19:57.03Delvarnn all
19:57.12guugmemberkm-, have you worked with varion?
19:57.13Hmmhesays2 voicemail priorities?
19:57.22Hmmhesayshow do you make it to the second one?
19:57.34guugmemberkm-, my problem is budget I am in the research stage of asterisk
19:57.52|Vulture|guugmember: whats the budget?
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19:58.39Hmmhesays$5?
19:58.47|Vulture|lol
19:59.12Mneumonicanyone know an easy way to play the hold music 3 seconds before transferring the call to an extension?
19:59.53guugmember|Vulture|, US$2000, for the server, the phones and a card
20:00.03|Vulture|how many phones, and what kinda line?
20:00.23guugmember|Vulture|, have already bought them, grandstream 102
20:00.26guugmember3 phones
20:00.32guugmember|Vulture|, 1 IAXy
20:00.39guugmember|Vulture|, 1 US$900 server
20:00.58guugmember|Vulture|, a TDM04B for 4 fxo
20:00.59shmaltzanybody ever explored SprintPCSs' RadioLink feautre? it uses SIP
20:01.00|Vulture|jesus.. $900 server for a 3 phone test?
20:01.29guugmember|Vulture|, a $900 because we are looking to make it the * server of my company
20:01.36|Vulture|ah oky
20:01.47guugmember|Vulture|, so I cant ask for another US$1500 just for a test
20:01.58|Vulture|why do you need more $$?
20:02.07|Vulture|you have everything to test
20:02.11guugmember|Vulture|, have you experienced with varion cards?
20:02.18|Vulture|guugmember: no sorry
20:02.20guugmember|Vulture|, but E1
20:02.43guugmemberany one can give me professional consulting with Varion?
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20:04.44sivanawho's got a good call forwarding macro?
20:05.16km-heh
20:05.22km-we put out the $1500 for the TE405P
20:05.22Hmmhesaysdefine 'good'
20:05.25km-very happy we did
20:05.40km-I'm learning something very interesting -- we always have at least 2 calls going on at once at our office
20:05.46km-I never realized we had that much call volume
20:05.59Hmmhesays2 calls at once?
20:06.10Hmmhesayssomeone's got a dishwasher going there
20:06.23km-what? :)
20:06.27jaigerHmmhesays, I think someone's hosing down his car
20:06.38Hmmhesayslol
20:06.54km-the humor is lost on me, someone explain to me wtf they're talkin about? :)
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20:07.16Hmmhesayssomething about mark and his odd patches
20:07.24km-ahhh
20:07.30bjohnsonsivana: the superdial macro
20:07.30km-conference call still going on I guess
20:07.42|Vulture|km-: there is a text chat going on too
20:07.54km-Anyone have any idea why I'm not getting caller ID on my T1?
20:07.55Hmmhesaysyeah, i'm really glad these guys are smarter than me, i might be able to learn something, lol
20:08.04km-I thought all T1's had ANI, as in, it wasnt an option
20:08.23agave-txlinkheh
20:08.27Beirdointeresting conference
20:08.36Hmmhesaysi wish you could see who was talking though
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20:09.01`SauronHmmhesaid.
20:09.44bjohnsonahhh .. why can't I connect???
20:10.15Beirdobecause you are trying to do it in a funky way :)
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20:10.22toppingin the text conference, is this like an anonymous IAX connection?
20:10.28Hmmhesaysjust put an extension in your extensions.conf
20:10.29toppingerm, voice conference
20:10.33lorionanyone have problems diaing out via broadvoice?
20:10.34Beirdoit bridged me no problem using ilbc
20:10.37bjohnsonBeirdo: so how do I force gsm
20:10.44bjohnsonBeirdo: how?
20:10.46BeirdoI don't know that you can
20:10.55kippihow can i find out what the default number is for my voicemail?
20:10.55BeirdoI'm calling from Firefly in IAX mode
20:11.10Hmmhesayswhy are you forcing gsm? just put an extension in your dialplan and allow ilbc
20:11.33bjohnsonahh .. I'd like to figure out how to do other codecs in *.  I think my config looks right .. just doesn't work
20:11.47sivanabjohnson: where would I find it?
20:11.57Beirdovoipjet's such a bitch to me lately
20:13.27bjohnsonsivana: wiki
20:13.27toppingis there a phone client like firefly that will do IAX that works on Linux?
20:13.35bjohnsontopping: iaxcomm
20:13.45bjohnsonI don't know if it's like firefly
20:14.00toppingthat's okay, just a client... thanks! :-)
20:14.21Groobybeirdo, how you feel about firefly
20:14.22Grooby??
20:14.31sivanabjohnson: is that the one ManxPower made?
20:14.33Groobyi tried it once..never really like the interface....
20:14.54BeirdoI hate the interface, but it works
20:14.59Groobyok
20:15.17Groobyhehe...pretty much how I feel....
20:16.12bjohnsonsivana: don't know
20:16.23bjohnsonsivana: one what?
20:16.50KalD|Worknot I =(
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20:18.57shmaltzanybody ever explored SprintPCSs' RadioLink feautre? it uses SIP
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20:21.23yashaWeird Problem:  I have 2 EXT. One will ring and NOT go into VM (eventially call will timeout/hang up), the othes goes into VM when not answered like it should. Any ideas what it might be?
20:21.51Inv_arphmmm  ilbc or  gsm .. both sound same for me for dev/conf    ilbc seems like it demands less bandwidth tho
20:21.51Groobyxit
20:24.50BeirdoIf only I could put the voices with the nicks :)
20:24.57terrapenhey
20:25.00terrapenhow do i get on the conf. call
20:25.06terrapenor is it over?
20:25.20bjohnsonaccording to my iax debug my peer is trying to connect to number 996 in context 996 .. where does it get that context from?
20:25.20Beirdoread the topic.
20:25.24Beirdoit's still going
20:25.26yashaguys, does anyone have an idea???
20:25.29Juggiehas anyone done anything with the cisco 7960 in a language other then french?
20:25.35terrapeni don't know hwo to dial that, beirdo
20:25.40Juggieer, other then english
20:25.40terrapendo i just assign it an extension
20:25.41Juggiei ment
20:25.43terrapenand dial the extension?
20:25.45Beirdoyes
20:25.46terrapenok
20:25.58Beirdojust assign an extension to dial to it.
20:26.04bjohnsonexten => 7,1,Dial(IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996)
20:26.06Beirdothen make sure to mute yourself :)
20:27.14ShanefulI have an FXO card in asterisk. have setup the dial plan like I did with my PRI card. but when asterisk dials an outside number it dials g1/EXTEN
20:27.17terrapenword
20:27.18terrapenim on
20:27.30terrapenhow is this speaking?
20:27.38terrapeneww
20:27.40terrapenerr
20:27.41terrapenwho
20:28.14*** join/#asterisk heison (~heison@ns.somanetworks.com)
20:28.35terrapenare we all muted by default?
20:28.43terrapeni put my phone on mute anyway
20:28.46Inv_arpterrapen: i would assume so
20:28.46BeirdoI would expect so
20:28.56jsolaresit does say, mutted when you dial in
20:28.57BeirdoI manually muted on my end too
20:29.09terrapenso i guess they unmute the core devs
20:29.12Inv_arpsome idiot woulda screamed on it by now
20:29.31bjohnsonwhy would my peer try to call the 996 context?
20:29.41BeirdoI dunno
20:29.58Inv_arpbjohnson: still try to use gsm?
20:29.59BeirdoI'm not gonna fight trying to make a peer definition when this works fine
20:30.08yashaWeird Problem, please help:  I have 2 EXT. One will ring and NOT go into VM (eventially call will timeout/hang up), the othes goes into VM when not answered like it should. Any ideas what it might be?
20:30.13terrapenwhat is that video game noise in the background
20:30.19Inv_arpterracon: yea i get it too
20:30.26Inv_arpterracon: what codec u using?
20:30.30terrapenulaw
20:30.38terrapenmaaybe it means ppl are joining
20:30.39terrapenor leaving
20:30.43Inv_arphmm im ilbc
20:30.47bjohnsona haaa exten => 7,1,Dial(IAX2/asteriskdevcon/996@)
20:30.50Inv_arpyea prob
20:30.59terrapen; Asterisk Conference call
20:30.59terrapenexten => 7070,1,Wait(1)
20:30.59terrapenexten => 7070,2,Dial(IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996)
20:30.59terrapenexten => 7070,3,Hangup
20:31.01terrapen:P
20:31.02|BarcodeI'm using ilbc and I hear the sound too.
20:31.33bjohnsonI had the beep in ulaw too
20:31.38bjohnsongot gsm working
20:31.56ariel_just wanted to let everyone know I was at the show in Miami today and the Digium booth where Mark was over run with people.
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20:32.15nani707Hello everybody,
20:32.20Inv_arpariel_: ahh man i forgot... where in miami?
20:32.22ariel_There were so many people trying to see him that there was a traffic jam.
20:32.34ariel_Inv_arp, are you not here.
20:32.39|BarcodeHow often do these conferences take place.. Should I keep this extension in my extensions.conf?
20:32.44ariel_The are open Friday too.
20:32.51bjohnsonhttp://pastebin.ca/6375 here's how it works as a peer to control codec
20:32.52Inv_arpariel_: in miami yes  show no
20:33.11nani707I tried to connect  DVG-1402S  voip adaptor to  Asterisk,  iam  getting  sip 403   forbidden error,  is there a  quickfix
20:33.19Inv_arpariel_: where can i get more info  addr  etc...
20:33.21bjohnsonno beep in gsm
20:33.43*** join/#asterisk Sedorox (brandon@Neptune.client.wlmsprt.pa.sed6.net)
20:33.44bjohnsonnani707: what is DVG-1402S ?
20:33.45*** join/#asterisk mkhan (~mkhan@ip66-105-190-122.z190-105-66.customer.algx.net)
20:33.46terrapenwho is this speaking?
20:33.53ManxPowerI would NEVER write a SOFTPHONE!
20:33.54visik7what is gfp ?
20:34.01nani707it is  a  2port  FXS   with inbuilt router
20:34.08ariel_Inv_arp, about addr???
20:34.17nani707it is  a  2port  FXS   with inbuilt router  DVG-1402S
20:34.26nani707same one  used  for  Lingo
20:34.30bjohnsonnani707: good.  first find out what protocol it uses
20:34.31cbachman|Barcode, they are trying for every thursday
20:34.35nani707however  i could  unlock with known  password on net
20:34.38Inv_arpariel_:  address   website? heard about it but totally forgot
20:34.50ariel_ok just a sec.
20:34.53nani707supports SIP2.0   Johnson
20:35.07mkhanHello.. I am first time here . would anybody help me to make something understand
20:35.07|Barcodecbachman: Thanks. Now I have something to keep me awake on Thursdays.. lol
20:35.26bjohnsonif you have a working * then just define it in sip.conf and extensions.conf
20:35.52ariel_Inv_arp, www.itexpo.com
20:36.01Inv_arpwoah total 6.6 kbytes using ilbc  nice thruput for conf
20:36.02bjohnsonoops .. got the beep
20:36.08Inv_arpme 2
20:36.13nani707i have working asterisk and  defined it  in the  sip.conf  [1001]
20:36.13nani707type=friend
20:36.13nani707username=1001
20:36.13nani707secret=1001
20:36.13nani707host=dynamic
20:36.13nani707context=partner
20:36.15nani707defaultip=192.168.10.201
20:36.17nani707canreinvite=no
20:36.25nani707dtmfmode=rfc2833
20:36.25nani707if i use  X-lite  it  works
20:36.33bjohnsonInv_arp: where do you get the bitrate?
20:36.42nani707if  i  use  it  with  Dlink  VOIP adaptor i get  SIP 403
20:36.46nani707forbidden error
20:36.47Inv_arpbjohnson: is us iptraf   on my * box
20:36.52Inv_arperr use
20:36.58bjohnsonoh
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20:38.12nani707did  anybody  receive  SIP 403  before
20:38.17nani707any  fix  for  that
20:38.35Kattygosh, 300 people :)
20:38.50nani707the  digest authentication is not  working i  beleive,
20:38.57bjohnsonnani707: that looks ok
20:39.06nani707but  is there a way  to  force  basic  authenticaiton?
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20:39.14bjohnsonnani707: if you can connect as that with xlite .. then the problem must be the hardware
20:39.20Inv_arpIncoming rates:   3.2 kbytes/sec 35.0 packets/sec
20:39.24Inv_arpOutgoing rates:   3.3 kbytes/sec 34.8 packets/sec
20:39.38nani707the same  hardware i  used with FWD  and it  worked  johnson
20:39.49Inv_arphmm getting echo now
20:40.03GDRAAnyone have a minute for what I think should be a simple solution to a problem?
20:40.04jsolareswoa calls on nufone for the 23'rd were free, upgrading software rules
20:40.41bjohnsonnani707: perhaps I spoke woringly .. it isn't the hardware, it's the hardware config
20:40.55GDRAI've considered that Katty
20:41.08Kattyyou didn't consider it enough! *grin*
20:41.14nani707config  i  have  double checked, and  sure iam  using right parameters
20:41.15Kattywhat's your problem?
20:41.24GDRAWell, then I considered what I would do when I lost my job...
20:41.47Kattycould get messy that way...
20:41.48GDRABasically I want to have 1 asterisk server connect to another asterisk server directly, no voip provider between them
20:42.13nani707I guess it  is  IAX   trunking  GDRA  i did not  implement  that  yet  though
20:42.56GDRAWould it be possible to just use SIP?
20:43.24bjohnsonGDRA: you could use SIP .. but most people use iax for that
20:43.26*** part/#asterisk mkhan (~mkhan@ip66-105-190-122.z190-105-66.customer.algx.net)
20:43.29nani707other way  might be  just  to  define  SIP  extensions  on both sides and  goup them ,
20:43.31km-hmm, my x-lite transfer button is greyed out
20:43.42km-do I need to set a special option in sip.conf to allow transfers?
20:43.51bjohnsonkm-: no
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20:44.09Inv_arpGDRA: IAX2 all the way  no nat probs, trunking is avail  less overhead  etc.. etc..
20:44.19nani707Johnson  can  you  suggest me a  good  asterisk prepaid  application,
20:44.24bjohnsonkm-: three ways to transfer I think.  Each are documented on wiki.  None need sip.conf config
20:44.29bjohnsonnani707: no
20:44.39km-bjohnson: just wondering why the transfer button is greyed out
20:44.47bjohnsondo you mean a voip provider?
20:44.53bjohnsonkm-: no idea here
20:45.04bjohnsonI don't use xlite
20:45.17km-what do you use?
20:45.25km-I'm thinking of using iaxcomm
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20:47.57buddahdoes * support faxing at all?
20:48.14*** part/#asterisk calvinhp (~calvinhp@rrcs-24-123-25-236.central.biz.rr.com)
20:48.15denonbuddah: sorta, google for asterisk rxfax txfax
20:48.21buddahk
20:48.44terrapenanybody listening to this discussion on the conf call?
20:48.47ScarletCrusadercan some one give me an example of a sip registration format ir [username]:[password]@[ip-address or dns] not sure if this is correct
20:48.48KalD|Workyeah
20:48.50km-denon: hey!
20:48.54KalD|Workterrapen, I am
20:48.55km-denon: ltns
20:48.57terrapeni'm trying to understand why they want to pull all that stuff out of the care
20:48.58Beirdono, nobody's listening...  :)
20:49.00terrapenerr core
20:49.07ScarletCrusaderthanks
20:49.10denonhey km
20:49.14ScarletCrusaderi'll keep hacking at it
20:49.15Beirdojust a pile of us
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20:49.21terrapenand move it to, essentially, plug-ins
20:49.24denonhow ya been doin?
20:49.28terrapennot doubting it
20:49.32terrapenjust trying to understand
20:49.38km-denon: hehe, cant complain, we got Asterisk here at work now...  Trying to work out all the kinks
20:49.43denonterrapen: for a number of reasons .. its nice to have a streamlined core, if you want to make an appliance, for example, that just does a few things ..
20:49.45terrapencan someone fill me in?
20:49.46km-denon: do you know much about T1's?
20:50.03denonterrapen: its also less code to break .. which would impact the core reliability of the pbx
20:50.09terrapenok.
20:50.15Beirdodenon: which one of the speakers are you? :)
20:50.29terrapenbut wouldn't the overall progress of asterisk slow down?
20:50.34denonhah, I dont do much speaking on *
20:50.43Beirdoah
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20:50.48terrapenbecause you are depending on implementations of commonly used apps to be done in each laanguage
20:50.52terrapenie perl, ruby, etc
20:50.59denonterrapen: on the contrary .. with things as modules, devs can go off on their own tangents, without code having to be really robustly tested in the core
20:51.13Inv_arpits a good idea
20:51.19terrapendenon, exactly....but then everybody is working for themselves as opposed to a common goal
20:51.30dan2sweet
20:51.39dan2my panasonic cordless sip phone will arrive shortly
20:51.40denonterrapen: well, not really -- everyone works on their respective modules, and you have standards in place for them to plug in ..
20:51.40terrapenyou'll have 20 implementations of Dial(), etc
20:51.41Juggiehas anyone done more then english on a cisco 7960?
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20:52.11denonterrapen: if you have lots of people working on the core, there's more chance of their efforts overlapping, and conflicting things getting changed
20:52.23Beirdoand things breaking :)
20:52.27denonthink of it like kernel development vs applications
20:52.30terrapeni don't doubt about the power of it
20:52.31Inv_arpdan2: panasonic cordless sip  how much?
20:52.38dan2Inv_arp: free
20:52.45BeirdoI like the direction you guys are thinking of taking
20:52.47terrapenbut it seems that the core team would have to implement the common, popular applications in each language first
20:52.49denonyou dont want Sun developing Sun Office into the linux kernel, do you?
20:52.49jsolaresterrapen: but they wont get into the cvs
20:52.52terrapenso that they get done correctlyu
20:52.54Inv_arpdan2: perf price
20:52.56dan2Inv_arp: (I work for a voip company (broadvoice))
20:53.05terrapendenon, of course not
20:53.07lorionhas anyone seen an error "Maximum retries exceeded on call"?
20:53.09Inv_arpdan2: heh k
20:53.14denonterrapen: I dont think I follow .. each language. .
20:53.25terrapenbut you want to make sure that it works right and works the same as another word processing package
20:53.31terrapenmaybe i'm confused about this
20:53.33jsolaresyou dont have to write them for each language terrapen, just the api
20:53.38bjohnsonkm-: I use hardware these days
20:53.44Beirdoterrapen: you'd only need to make an app in *one* language
20:53.52terrapenthey are talking about moving much of the functionality to 'external', non-core code
20:53.59terrapenthat could be implemented in various languges
20:54.00Beirdohopefully, people tend to use the same languages
20:54.00terrapencorrect?
20:54.12denonright .. most likely just moving the existing C into modules ..
20:54.19Kattywell, I suppose I'll jump right in
20:54.35jsolaresi dont think people are going to go and recode everything in every language out there
20:54.40Kattyi'll be setting up asterisk for the Very First Time and haven't the slightest clue about it.
20:54.42denonno, there's no need
20:54.59KattyI suppose my first question will be the prefered OS
20:55.03denonKatty: linux
20:55.05bjohnsonKatty: linux
20:55.06Kattydoes it depend upon hardware
20:55.08Kattyobviously
20:55.10bjohnsonnope
20:55.10Kattybut which one
20:55.14denonKatty: thats a distribution :)
20:55.17Inv_arpKatty: any
20:55.18Kattyi'm currently using debian
20:55.22jsolaresthat's fine
20:55.24bjohnsondebian seems to be a winner
20:55.24Inv_arpKatty: me 2
20:55.28denonKatty: everyone likes everyhting .. debian is good though
20:55.29terrapenjsolares, i just wonder about the consistency
20:55.32Kattyi've talked to one guy who sets it up and says that my hardware tends to like debian the best
20:55.36bjohnsonfollowed by slackware and redhat types
20:55.39denonterrapen: the api enforces consistency
20:55.43Inv_arpKatty: debian 350mhz 128meg ram actually
20:55.46bjohnsonKatty: he's an idot
20:55.49bjohnsonKatty: he's an idiot
20:55.50km-I've run debian for many years now
20:55.52jsolaresnot only that, but you have someone in charge of the cvs
20:55.54denonterrapen: a strong set of standards actually keeps the core much more stable ..
20:55.54Kattybjohnson: actually, he's not *smile*
20:56.08Kattybjohnson: especially considering asterisk is just a side business for him (=
20:56.09jsolaresKatty: actually if he's suggesting that, he is
20:56.11CMikehi all
20:56.19Kattyk'then
20:56.19bjohnsonKatty: you're hardware won't know or care what distro your running
20:56.23km-bjohnson: her hardware may play better with debian's stock kernel, is what he means.
20:56.35Kattybjohnson: what about the actual digium cards though?
20:56.35denonright
20:56.40km-bjohnson: don't be so quick to call people an idiot, it only shows an inferiority complex!
20:56.53Inv_arpheh
20:56.57denonKatty: Debian is perfect, dont give it another thought.
20:57.04Kattydenon: ok :)
20:57.08km-I've seen many systems behave differently based on what stock kernel you're running
20:57.14km-redhat's kernel is no where close to vanilla
20:57.16jsolaresterrapen: unless you're the mantainer of the asterisk code as a whole, you dont need to worry on the consistency ;)
20:57.27jsolaresubuntu!!
20:57.33km-haha
20:57.35km-GENTOO!
20:57.37Kattydenon: I think i'm right to the point of downloading source (possibly headers) so I can get the drivers for the cards
20:57.43km-where's that gentoo hater's website
20:57.48Kattydenon: it's actually a miracle i got debian installed in the first place, heh.
20:57.50km-theres some funny joke pics about gentoo users on it
20:58.00jsolaresKatty: very recent hardware?
20:58.00Sedoroxhmmm
20:58.01tzangerkm-: what, funroll-loops.org?
20:58.04Sedoroxgentoo!!!
20:58.07Kattyjsolares: pardon? :)
20:58.17km-ahhh yeah ;)
20:58.17Kattyjsolares: I don't know much, so you'll have to be a bit...hrmm...patient :)
20:58.18jsolaresKatty: do you have very recent hardware on your pc?
20:58.31jsolareslike an intel 915 board
20:58.37Kattyjsolares: moment...
20:58.39Juggiegrr... i cant find anything on cisco and other languages for the interface other then english
20:58.40km-funroll-loops.org is hillarious
20:58.51terrapenjsolares: i guess its just a matter of where the line is drawn between "core" stuff and user-community implemented stuff
20:59.06km-tzanger: hey, I didnt see if you shot me a message earlier -- do you have any idea why I'm not getting callerid from the t1?
20:59.19km-tzanger: do I have to set a specific option like callerid=yes in the zapata.conf, even on a T1?
20:59.47jsolaresterrapen: not really, look at the linux kernel, core = bare minum, modules = rest; so asterisk could very well have the bare minimum to work called core, and the rest of the stuff called modules, but still mantained by the same people
20:59.55tzangerkm-: zapata.conf should have callerid=asrecieved on the telco side
21:00.04km-asreceived
21:00.05jsolaresit would make it easier for people outside of the regular coders make modules
21:00.06km-ok
21:00.12km-tzanger: not callerid=yes?
21:00.21tzangerno not yes
21:00.24tzangercallerid=asreceived
21:00.35km-gotcha
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21:00.44km-for my own personal thirst of knowledge, what's the difference?
21:00.48tzangerand callerid="Blah COmpany <(123) 456-7890>" for the pbx side
21:01.05Kattyway for me to miss-place my bundle of Stuff
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21:01.25terrapenjsolares: gotchya
21:01.53Kattythe hardware is fairly recent...let me dig through the database
21:01.56buddahgood lord, t.38 fax bounty
21:01.58jsolaresKatty: well, if it's very recent hardware you would need fairly recent builds of linux. i had several cd's of linux from debian stable to redhat 9, and none of them booted on my asterisk box
21:02.00buddahlike $11,250
21:02.01terrapenjsolares: and these modules could be implemented via APIs in any of the popular languages?
21:02.11Beirdobuddah: starting to get closer
21:02.15km-might I just make an observation
21:02.15jsolaresthat's how i see it terrapen
21:02.17tzangerkm-: it's the difference between callerid=kittycats and callerid=puppydogs
21:02.21tzangerit's a totally different thing
21:02.23tzangerasreceived != yes
21:02.30jsolareslol
21:02.33km-whoever designed the command "restart when convenient" should get a medal
21:02.47km-it makes my life really easy
21:02.48km-hehe
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21:02.59tessier_Hello all!
21:03.02Kattyjsolares: someone helped me update my kernel
21:03.14Kattyjsolares: of course the box is turned off and sitting on a rack upstairs :)
21:03.14tessier_Anyone know what the avt means in the dtmfmode setting of a cisco 7960?
21:03.16km-tzanger: what about usecallerid=yes
21:03.20km-tzanger: should I set that too?
21:03.25jsolaresKatty: ah well then stick to that, unless you want to have headaches reinstallling another distro
21:03.41tessier_For some reason the phones here can't talk to autoattendants because their dtmf is not recognized. I think they are sending something inband but mangled
21:03.51tzangerkm-: not sure about tha tone
21:03.56km-eh, I'll set it
21:04.01km-if its a problem I'll just take it away
21:04.15Inv_arpwoah from 6.6kbytes  to 33.6 kybtes  when by brother logs in to conf on my other box
21:05.14buddahdo pap-2na's support t.38 fax?
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21:05.29Juggietessier, not sure but it works with default settings for me, inband & avt
21:05.31km-some of the users were reporting that they werte talking on the phone and the phone mysteriously disconnected on them, but, nobody can say for sure if it was the remote side hanging up or not
21:05.38Kattyjsolares: k'then (=
21:05.43KattyI imagine I'll need lots of help.
21:05.48KattyWhich is another thing that concerns me.
21:05.51km-users = suck.
21:05.52KattyI'm barely using mandrake and kde.
21:06.03KattyMostly I'm just a windows tech
21:06.19km-Katty: you dont necessarily have to be a linux wiz to learn asterisk -- it's more like a seperate beast that just uses linux as it's home
21:06.22KattyI have a feeling getting a linux box with asterisk on it is going to be slightly more than I can handle in the first place
21:06.27Kattykm-: ok :>
21:06.34Kattydoes it run inside a gui?
21:06.40jsolaresnope
21:06.42Kattyk
21:06.49Kattyi was talking to another person..
21:06.50km-asterisk is a console application
21:06.53Kattywe got asterisk on a wee little cd
21:07.08Kattybut she said that it was terribly old and i should just use debian's built in hrmm...apt-get? to get asterisk
21:07.16JerJeroh god
21:07.17JerJerevil
21:07.23km-apt-get is the debian package management system
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21:07.27km-however
21:07.40Kattythat was back when i was using the Current Stable Version, and we switch the source list to the newer one
21:07.54KattySarge to woody, i think it was
21:08.05Kattyis apt-get not a good idea?
21:08.07km-woody to sarge
21:08.13km-well, apt-get is good for regular software
21:08.21Kattynot asterisk, then, i take it
21:08.26km-but asterisk is constantly evolving, faster than packages can be made
21:08.43km-as soon as someone makes an asterisk package, theres already a new asterisk feature that's worth including
21:09.18Kattyso..
21:09.30Kattydo you update it all the time and pray it doesn't break?
21:09.37tessier_Weird that dtmf works with the local voicemail system but not the autoattendant on another companies phone system
21:09.38denonnow you're gettin it
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21:09.39Kattyi obviously have no idea how it works :)
21:09.46km-well, that depends if you're using it as a hobbyist or a business
21:09.53Kattywell...
21:09.53Inv_arpKatty: nah i just update if i need a new feature.. or if there is a major prob
21:09.55denonKatty: its best to find a revision that does everything you need it to do .. test it well .. then leave it alone
21:09.58km-I'm not going to be upgrading every day from CVS because I'm running a business here
21:10.08Kattypersonally, this is just a hobby thing for me
21:10.15Kattyour company is using some third party stuff
21:10.27Kattyand in the meantime, i'm supposed to figure out how to get the company onto our own asterisk box
21:10.33Kattythere's no rush on it
21:10.42km-the only problem with 'restart when convenient' is that people are on the friggin phone all the time
21:10.45Kattyi'd like to learn how to do it right, obviously
21:10.47tessier_hmm...when I call my cell the dtmf sounds like two short little pulses
21:10.57Groobyis there such thing as "do it right?"
21:10.59Groobyhehehehe
21:11.05KattyGrooby: gosh i hope so :>
21:11.16Groobyi started doing * as a hobby too
21:11.17km-there are ways to make Asterisk installs look like they're done right
21:11.25Groobyi musta reinstall 10000 times
21:11.25Groobylol
21:11.27xeet2tessier: what are you calling from?  and what are you calling via?  pots?  sip provider?
21:11.27km-but that takes a good bullshit artist
21:11.33Groobyand I am still a noob
21:11.52Kattyhmm, so i guess this will get messy
21:11.57Kattyas in some things will work while others won't
21:11.57xeet2km-:  its just like the networking world =P
21:11.58Groobyyup
21:11.58km-oh yeah
21:12.05Kattydumb question
21:12.05km-if you're doing this as a hobby
21:12.12Kattydoes the sound card have to work in the machine?
21:12.13km-you *WILL* find things that are broken
21:12.14km-its a given
21:12.24km-katty: you don't need a sound card for asterisk
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21:12.29Kattykm-: k'then
21:12.30km-its cool for intercom
21:12.34km-but you dont need it
21:12.40Kattythere's a soundcard in the box, but debian didn't pick it up
21:12.40tessier_xeet2: Calling from my 7960 through an asterisk box out a PRI to my cell phone
21:12.52Kattyi might be able to figure out how to make debian see it, but i'm not sure...that's a bit beyond me right now
21:12.55tessier_xeet2: Phone is currently set to its default of "avt"
21:13.01km-katty: baby steps.
21:13.04tessier_xeet2: and I have rfc2833 in the sip.conf for this phone
21:13.10km-katty: linux is a lot to handle in 24 hours :)
21:13.27tessier_I saw a book called "Linux in 24 hours" so it must be possible.
21:13.29tessier_;)
21:13.32Groobyhahahahaha
21:13.35km-hahahaha
21:13.54km-after 9 years I'm still on hour 23!
21:14.01tessier_I wish I had that book 12 years ago when I started playing with Linux. Took me a good couple of years to really learn it.
21:14.22tessier_Actually, not 12 years ago.
21:14.27km-I bought "Linux Unleashed" in '95
21:14.32tessier_I started playing with it in 93....wait, that is 12 years. Wow.
21:14.35Kattykm-: it sure is
21:14.40Kattykm-: i'm taking it slow :)
21:14.42Beirdodenon: you guys should call it obelisk
21:14.48km-HAHAH
21:14.50tessier_Linux is no longer an "upstart" OS, that's for sure.
21:14.55tessier_It's older than NT/2000 etc
21:14.55Katty'upstart'?
21:14.57xeet2tessier:  ok, well I'd say its doing what it supposed to...  Since your cell provider will actually receive the dtmf tones out of band, and your cell doesn't really know what to do with them, you don't hear it...    correct me if I'm wrong, but out of band dtmf works across isdn right?
21:15.16km-Beirdo: are you calling us monkeys? :)
21:15.22Beirdono
21:15.24Kattyis asterisk as difficult as installing debian? :<
21:15.24km-oh wait, that's monolith
21:15.30km-katty: worse
21:15.35Kattyeep!
21:15.38Sedoroxlol
21:15.40km-katty: the hurdles are only in the beginning though
21:15.41Kattytime to hide under the bed
21:15.41tessier_xeet2: Right....however I just realized I left out a part: The asterisk is talking to a cisco 5300 via SIP.
21:15.42SedoroxKatty: once you get it installed...
21:15.44nestArasterisk is easy to install
21:15.45Beirdohave you ever read the asterix comics?
21:15.45Sedoroxand start working with it
21:15.48Sedoroxit isn't bas
21:15.49Sedoroxbad*
21:15.50ScarletCrusaderYES!!!!!!!!!
21:15.57xeet2I find * on gentoo the best, but then I'm biased towards gentoo anyway
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21:15.59SedoroxI started with it 3 weeks ago and the dialplan looked greek
21:16.03SedoroxI now know it pretty well
21:16.14km-xeet2: hahahaha, I was just reading funroll-loops.org!
21:16.25KattySedorox: i can only hope i'll pick it up as quickly :)
21:16.25Sedoroxthat actual install isn't bad
21:16.30Sedoroxits the configuration
21:16.35km-oh yeah, I've got all sorts of cool extension snippets
21:16.39Sedoroxvoip-info.org.. or whatever it is..
21:16.41xeet2tessier:  and the 5300 goes to the pri?   what is the dtmfmode set to for the 5300 peer?
21:16.43SedoroxGREAT site
21:16.45Kattyi iamgine i'll be tugging on a few sleeves :)
21:16.47tessier_And dtmf works fine on our local system....so I bet the cisco is fudging things up somewhere.
21:16.54Kattys/iamgine/imagine
21:16.56Sedoroxhehe
21:17.02Sedoroxthis channel is also very helpful
21:17.08ScarletCrusaderis there a command to show currently defined extension or one that have been register with asterisk?
21:17.08jsolaresechooooo
21:17.09tessier_xeet2: Yes, 5300 has the PRI plugged into it. Not sure what dtmfmode is on the 5300. Gonna check that out now with my cisco guy. Thanks!
21:17.09km-katty: there are always people around here who are willing to help
21:17.10Kattyirc is always helpful
21:17.12Sedoroxthat is.. if you try all you can and are really suck :-p
21:17.20xeet2tessier:  look at what it is on *
21:17.27KattySedorox: i'm always stuck. hehe
21:17.39km-hehe
21:17.42Sedoroxhehe
21:17.46km-I come here and whine about my T1
21:17.48Sedoroxjust read through the docs
21:17.52Sedoroxwhen you start working with it
21:17.52Kattystrangely enough i was introduced to linux because of my irc addiction
21:17.53jsolaresmhnoyes: its open you dimwits :P j/k
21:17.55Kattyi wanted irc, all the time
21:17.57Sedoroxdo a few examples.. comes pretty easy
21:17.58xeet2tessier:  it might actually be working just fine, you're not really supposed to hear dtmf tones on your cell if your provider received them out of band.  have you tried calling into another pbx across the pstn?
21:17.59jsolares-mhno
21:17.59Sedoroxlol
21:18.04SedoroxI was like that
21:18.07Kattyand so now i screen irssi
21:18.07Sedoroxmy middle school days
21:18.11SedoroxIRC, sleep, school...
21:18.13Sedoroxrepeat
21:18.14KattySedorox: mmhmm
21:18.22KattySedorox: now it's just irc, sleep, work, repeat
21:18.23xeet2you forgot sex
21:18.30xeet2wait, no
21:18.33Sedoroxxeet2: I haven't had sex yet.. thanks :-p
21:18.34Kattysex? what's that?
21:18.40Sedoroxlol
21:18.41xeet2forget that, thats so pre-linux
21:18.47Sedoroxlol
21:18.55Kattyit /so/ is
21:19.26Kattywell, i suppose i'll go drag the box off the rack
21:19.31SedoroxI have a g/f right now.. so :-p
21:19.34heison~seen JerJer
21:19.48jbotjerjer is currently on #asterisk.  Has said a total of 19 messages.  Is idling for 12m 31s
21:19.49Sedoroxhehhe
21:19.49Groobyvulture, what happen when you load speex?
21:19.49KattySedorox: you lucky thing you!
21:19.49|Vulture|Grooby: Ill pastebin it
21:19.49Sedorox:-p
21:19.59terrapenvulture, you just need speex installed, then rebuild *, then allow=speex
21:20.01terrapenthat shouuld be it
21:20.08|Vulture|terracon: ahh oky
21:20.10Sedoroxwith what? lol
21:20.11|Vulture|thats what it is then
21:20.11Groobyyup
21:20.17Groobywell..i also had to do ldconfig
21:20.22|Vulture|can I get speex off of * ftp?
21:20.25Groobyyup
21:20.29Groobyspeex.org
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21:20.37EssobiAnyone using anything to manage meetmes from a web interface?
21:20.38Kattyi think i'll just leave this up for a bit
21:20.38Groobyi just d/l the source code
21:20.46km-the wife is telling me to get home
21:20.48km-hehe
21:20.48Sedoroxkk
21:20.53Sedoroxlol km-
21:20.56km-snowstorm here in philly
21:20.59Groobyterrapen, how were your speex quality?
21:21.04terrapenwell.....
21:21.06Sedoroxit isn't that bad, it is down there?
21:21.09|Vulture|installing stable
21:21.10terrapeni'm using it currently with NuFone
21:21.10SedoroxI'm from that area...
21:21.11km-not really a snowstorm, more like, a snow shower that everyone is like "OMG OMG 8"!"
21:21.12Groobyi can't make anything out what I said
21:21.18terrapenand it seems to sound a lot nicer than gsm
21:21.20SedoroxI know..
21:21.21km-8 inches is not a storm
21:21.22Groobynufone..it's IAX client?
21:21.24terrapenso i guess i'm pretty happy
21:21.28|Vulture|no
21:21.28terrapeni still get some jitter
21:21.30SedoroxI heard they cancealed school for the possiblility of snow
21:21.30km-14", that's a storm
21:21.31terrapenbut that could be my upstream
21:21.36Sedoroxwe're only suppose to get 4"
21:21.37|Vulture|nufone is a VoIP provider
21:21.37terrapeni'd say speex works nicely
21:21.38km-yeah, that's what they did around here
21:21.40Groobyah ok
21:21.43km-sedorox: whereabouts are you?
21:21.45terrapenof course, there is no phone support for it, AFAIK
21:21.47km-ahh yeah
21:21.52km-I hear cape may is going to get hammered
21:21.53Groobyi tried it last night and i get horrible quality using xlite
21:21.56km-like 10" or something
21:22.00terrapenexcept for Firefly softphone
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21:22.14terrapengrooby, is this on your local LAN?
21:22.16Sedoroxhehe
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21:22.22km-heh, ok, time to find my way home
21:22.24terrapenor to a remote voip provider?
21:22.26km-talk to you later guys!
21:22.27Groobyyup
21:22.32Groobylocal lan
21:22.36Groobycall 1 exten to another
21:22.37terrapenthat's really odd
21:22.42terrapenit works *great* for me in that aspect
21:22.49terrapenwhat are you running?
21:22.57terrapenand are you doing speex<-->speex?
21:23.06terrapenor speex<----> * <----> gsm
21:23.08Katty...or not
21:23.10shido6Grooby u have a switch or a hub on that LAN of yours?
21:23.11Beirdoman, that echo is annoying ;)
21:23.22Kattyi'll just stay and pester the geeks instead.
21:23.30xeet2grooby:  are any of your clients via wireless?
21:23.31Groobyswitch
21:23.34terrapensomeone on that dev conf call needs to get a nicer microphone
21:23.43[Outcast]exit
21:23.46terrapenor push the boom mic away from his mouth :)
21:23.46Kattyhere's another question
21:23.47[Outcast]oops
21:23.51[Outcast]wrong screen
21:23.55Kattylet's pretend i've got broadband at home
21:24.07Kattyand i somehow, by way of a miracle, get this asterisk box going
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21:24.09xeet2*pretends*
21:24.10EssobiWEEE PORN
21:24.11shido6Grooby full duplex sound card? noise cancelling mic?
21:24.15Kattyand decide to set myself one up at home
21:24.23terrapenyou shouldn't have problems with Speex on a LAN
21:24.26terrapenyou have something else wrong
21:24.33Kattycan i just dump the phone system?
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21:24.40Kattyuse uhh, softphone of some sort
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21:24.46Groobyi think it's full duplex
21:24.52harryvvAnyone seen a case where the volume from the mouthpiece of a analog phone is very quiet on the spa1k?
21:24.53Groobyit works fine w/ every other codec except speex
21:25.01xeet2grooby: try some pings, file transfers between the same two machines/devices, see what happens
21:25.13terrapengrooby, which ver of speex are you running?
21:25.22Groobywhatever .04
21:25.24Groobynot the beta
21:25.25xeet2katty:  what do you mean can you just dump the phone system?  which phone system, your old pbx?
21:25.26terrapenare you using some old version or some CVS version or some version that came with your OS?
21:25.27Groobybut the latest stable
21:25.33terrapenyou built the latest stable, yourself?
21:25.35Kattyxeet2: yup :)
21:25.36Groobyyeah
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21:25.40terrapenthat's really odd
21:25.40Kattyxeet2: as in southwestern bell
21:25.52Kattycan i use my regular broadband line?
21:25.53terrapenspeex-1.1.6
21:25.56terrapenthat's what i'm running
21:25.58terrapenand it kicks ass
21:26.00Groobylet me try that
21:26.07Kattyor do i need another dedicated broadband line specifically for the asterisk box
21:26.09terrapenremember to rebuild asterisk too
21:26.15xeet2katty:  well thats entirely up to you, but * is quite capable of doing what most other pbx's do as well or better
21:26.17Groobyok
21:26.19Groobybrb
21:26.36harryvvterrapen, I have not used speeks but is it proving to be 100% reliable?
21:26.49xeet2katty:  try it and see =)  every broadband connection is different
21:26.50Kattyxeet2: i guess what i'm asking is if i can setup asterisk on a linux box, and use that linux box for both my phone system and regular computer
21:26.53|Vulture|I am building with "Stable" right now
21:26.58xeet2oh
21:27.14xeet2not recommended
21:27.25|Vulture|xeet2: was that to me?
21:27.25Katty2 different boxes on the same broadband line?
21:27.32Kattyxeet2: would that work maybe?
21:27.47Groobygot 1 dumb question
21:27.48xeet2katty:  yes, that would, just get yourself a decent broadband router, ie linksys
21:27.56Kattyxeet2: oh ah :>
21:27.56Groobycan I "make install" while asterisk is running?
21:27.57|Vulture|wrt54g
21:28.03Groobyor should I shut it down
21:28.07|Vulture|Grooby: yes
21:28.14Groobyok
21:28.26Groobythat's what i've been doing..but thought maybe i can "cheat"
21:28.29Grooby:)
21:28.31Kattywhat should my next baby step be?
21:28.34KattyI've got debian loaded
21:28.39|Vulture|you don't need to shut it down
21:28.41Kattyand i've updated the kernel and all the packages
21:28.50Groobyw00t! go Katty!
21:28.50Kattythough i might want to update it again, if i can remember how...hmm
21:28.59Groobyapt-get update
21:29.04Groobyapt-get dist-upgrade?
21:29.05Kattythat's not kernel though
21:29.11Kattydist-upgrade sounds framilier
21:29.15Sedoroxlol
21:29.19EssobiWhy is there no decent web interfaces for MeetMe?
21:29.23EssobiGRR.
21:29.24Kattyi haven't looked for about a month ;)
21:29.24Sedoroxscrew debian.. get slackware or gentoo... :-p
21:29.28tuxinator_linuxMorning Sedorox
21:29.33xeet2essobi:  write one?
21:29.34KattySedorox: pffft, i'm just a little geek :)
21:29.35EssobiGentoo is for ricers.
21:29.35|Vulture|omg my dev box sucks hardcore
21:29.35SedoroxMorning
21:29.37Sedoroxlol
21:29.39Essobixeet2 I will.
21:29.42xeet2=)
21:29.43Sedoroxlol
21:29.45SedoroxI run Gentoo
21:29.46|Vulture|takes forever to build *
21:29.46SedoroxSysInfo | System: Linux 2.6.10-cko3 | CPU: Dual Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz  3200.627 MHz | Mem: 193/1031Mb (19%) | Diskspace: 92Gb Free: 54Gb | Bogomips Per CPU: 6324.22 | Screen Res: 1680x1050 | Procs: 111 | Uptime:  3:40 | Connection Device: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 16). In: 5.64Mb Out: 0.93Mb
21:29.51Sedoroxeh.. doesn't show... allwell
21:30.03Essobihow often do you re-build?
21:30.08Essobi:)
21:30.16xeet2how can anyone not like gentoo
21:30.30xeet2<awaits a storm of text
21:30.32Kattywe don't know how to use it!!!
21:30.44Sedoroxlol
21:30.47Kattyheh, 2 months ago i didn't know how to use an iso ;)
21:30.50EssobiI know perfectly well how to use it.  It was modeled after a nicer OS.  FreeBSD.
21:30.52Groobybjohnson, that's not true
21:30.54GroobyDOS rules!
21:30.58SedoroxEssobi: you mean update? about once a week.. or twice.. I try...
21:31.00EssobiDrDOS FOO
21:31.03Kattysomeone hand to hold my hand and say, k, angela, download this...and use nero to do this
21:31.16Sedoroxlol
21:31.18Kattyand then i was all :>>>>> and OOoooo, iso :>>
21:31.22mikegrblolz
21:31.26EssobiSedorox Oh you binary fetch or rebuild your updates?
21:31.26bjohnsonGrooby: google "Every OS Sucks" by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie .. it's a funny mp3
21:31.27tessier_xeet2: The cisco has dtmf-relay rtp-nte enabled which according to the docs is rfc2833
21:31.35tessier_bjohnson: Yes, that is funny
21:31.35Sedoroxemerge sync
21:31.37Sedoroxemerge -uD world
21:31.38Sedorox:-p
21:31.41mikegrbSedorox: you sure do laugh out loud a bunch
21:31.44tessier_bjohnson: Although I wish they had mentioned that Linux sucks less than most. :)
21:31.45xeet2essobi: ok, I can agree with that.   I was more pointing towards in the linux group
21:32.03Sedoroxmmm yup
21:32.03Kattyso, right.
21:32.10Kattyshould i try to update debian again?
21:32.11marc_chow come few use the varion cards?
21:32.11|Vulture|failed to load codec_speex.so
21:32.16xeet2tessier: ok, what does * say for the cisco 5300 peer?
21:32.18marc_cit's cheaper.
21:32.20|Vulture|gunna try unstable version
21:32.24Groobytrying to find it
21:32.25Groobylol
21:32.25xeet2if its not matched it can be confusing
21:32.25SedoroxKatty: I'm assuming female? (just courious.. don't have to answer)
21:32.35KattySedorox: quite. www.brick.net/~izaah (+
21:32.36Katty(=
21:32.44tessier_xeet2: dtmfmode=rfc2833
21:32.44Groobyvulture, which distro u using?
21:32.45Sedoroxah.. hot
21:32.47Essobitessier You got a problem with a 5300?  I just fixed up my 5400s in *.
21:32.49harryvvbj, seen a case where your ata OR analog phone mouthpiece was very very quiet to the calling party?
21:32.51Sedoroxchick thats into Linux AND asterisk :-p
21:32.52bjohnsonGrooby: dcc?
21:32.59bjohnsonharryvv: yes
21:33.04Groobysure
21:33.06Groobysend it this way
21:33.06KattySedorox: pffft, i'm just curious :)
21:33.09bjohnsonharryvv: I've been playing with gain
21:33.16tessier_Essobi: Having a dtmf problem somewhere. The beeps come across as two really short blips
21:33.17Sedoroxhehe
21:33.18Groobyis he awake?
21:33.19KattySedorox: i'll get ticked off if you treat me like a steak :P
21:33.20Groobyhehehe
21:33.22SedoroxI have asterisk here in my dorm
21:33.23KattySedorox: so don't even start :P
21:33.27|Vulture|Grooby: FC3, 1.0.5, 1.0.4 speex
21:33.29harryvvbj in the ata or *
21:33.33Sedoroxeh?
21:33.33Groobyvulture, ldconfig
21:33.33Sedoroxmmm ok
21:33.39Groobyi had that problem
21:33.45KattySedorox: no drool, kthx
21:33.47Sedoroxlike I said.. I was just courious.. I wouldn't treate you any difference
21:33.49Sedoroxno...
21:33.50Kattys/drool/drooling
21:33.52Sedoroxlike I said.. I have a g/f
21:33.58Kattyexcellent
21:34.02Sedoroxand in my eyes.. no one is hotter then her
21:34.02Sedoroxhehe
21:34.03|Vulture|Grooby: it returned nothing
21:34.07Groobythat's fine
21:34.07Sedorox(sorry if it offends you)
21:34.09Groobynow try to run it
21:34.10xeet2tessier: hmmm, ok, try no'ing out that config line, I think thats for cas signalling
21:34.13Kattynot at all (=
21:34.15Sedorox:-p
21:34.20EssobiTessier what codec?
21:34.25Kattybut i am in the market for a girlfriend
21:34.26SedoroxI just like to see women working with this kinda stuff
21:34.27Groobyi was having the same problem here on CentOS
21:34.29xeet2tessier: on the 5300 that is
21:34.29EssobiSIP?  Reinvites?
21:34.33Sedoroxhehe
21:34.37chaosconSedorox: mine wants to learn it ;)
21:34.41Sedoroxhehe
21:34.41Sedoroxnice
21:34.44tessier_xeet2: I just called from my cell phone to my cisco 7960 and I don't get beeps on the 7960 when I press buttons on my cell phone but I do get the short beeps on my cell when I push buttons on the 7960.
21:34.54KattySedorox: are you normally in here?
21:35.02Sedoroxyea.. when I'm on irc  I'm here...
21:35.03Groobybasically the /usr/local/xxxx/ (forgot what it was) wasn't in so path
21:35.07BeirdoKatty: many of us like having geek chicks around, it keeps us more honest :)
21:35.09Kattyi must find a Main Contac to pester the hell out of
21:35.12tessier_Essobi: All ulaw here. No reinvites.
21:35.20xeet2tessier:  yeah that sounds like the 5300 is reproducting dtmf tones on the pri, while transmitting them out of band at the same time
21:35.22EssobiHRM.
21:35.29Sedoroxhonest.. and sane... and well.. mature
21:35.29Sedoroxlol
21:35.33SedoroxKatty: thats fine
21:35.34|Vulture|Grooby: http://pastebin.ca/6376
21:35.36Essobigot the inline turned on?
21:35.37SedoroxI like to help where Ican... so...
21:35.54xeet2tessier:  you don't need to reproduce dtmf on a pri, that command is usually used on cas circuits or analog
21:35.55Groobyvulture, that was the error i was getting
21:36.01SedoroxI know how it is to start and be clueless on stuff.. and have someone to help you along.. so I like to do the same to others
21:36.04BeirdoSedorox: yeah, that too
21:36.06Essobitessi Got inline DTMF turned on?
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21:36.12Katty:>
21:36.15xeet2essobi:  tessier is doing out of band dtmf
21:36.22tessier_Essobi: Should be all rfc2833
21:36.29EssobiDo inband if you're running ULAW.
21:36.29Beirdoknowing that women are around will make us act more like gentlemen :)
21:36.33tessier_We use a lot of g729 also so I want everything rfc2833
21:36.34Kattyshould i apt-get asterisk or not?
21:36.38Groobyi asked on the usergroup
21:36.40Sedoroxhehe
21:36.41Groobylet me dig up that email on the fix
21:36.46tessier_The phones here in house are ulaw but most of our phones are g729
21:36.47|Vulture|Grooby: thanx
21:36.53roamer323geek chick - haha , thought it was geekette :-D
21:36.55xeet2essobi:  why?  out of band dtmf is always better if you can do it
21:36.55Sedoroxdunno.. I don't use debian.. I know people that do... check to see what version it is.. if its 1.0.5.. yes
21:36.56Kattyuse the one provided on the cd that's horribly old?
21:37.04Essobixeet2:  that's the problem.  He can't.
21:37.05Essobi:)
21:37.07xeet2only reproduce tones closest to the destination
21:37.12xeet2well, we're working on that part =)
21:37.15Sedoroxif it isn't 1.0.5.. I would say go download it
21:37.15EssobiI think debians only up to 1.0.3
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21:37.21tessier_Essobi: I should be able to though. It's gotta be a confused config somewhere.
21:37.21Kattyroamer323: you need a special drive for a geekette :P
21:37.25*** part/#asterisk djin (~djin@gridfox.xs4all.nl)
21:37.36xeet2tessier:  try removing that config line on the 5300
21:37.37Essobisounds like it
21:37.43Sedoroxlol
21:37.43Essobiwhat's your dial peer look like?
21:37.45cogihi
21:37.55Groobyvulture, got my message?
21:37.57xeet2its making the 5300 reproduce dtmf tones, and send out of band dtmf on the pri
21:37.58KattySedorox: will you need to know what my kernel version is to tell me which one to download?
21:38.08tessier_xeet2: Ah...I'll try that.
21:38.11KattySedorox: is it based on i386 or 64, etc
21:38.16tessier_xeet2: I am surprised it would let us do both at once.
21:38.26Sedoroxno.. there is one download on asterisk's site
21:38.28cogidoes someone have new asterisk-oh323 package? www.inaccessnetworks.com is down... and i've just get access to h332 gateway and would like to test it
21:38.30xeet2it technically doesn't, its kind of broken
21:38.34KattySedorox: k'then
21:38.35Sedoroxunless you want the addons or sounds.. then its 2 or three :-p
21:38.38xeet2cisco? broken?  who knew!?!
21:38.39Essobixeet2 thats cisco for you
21:38.45Sedoroxbut yea.. its just a tarball (.tar.gz)
21:38.48tessier_I gotta run for a bit, I'll get our cisco guy to make that change when I get back and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the tips!
21:38.49Sedoroxone-size-fits-all
21:38.53Sedoroxkinda...
21:38.55Kattyone-size-fits-4
21:38.59Essobibut I suppose it could be feasible to have a need for it.
21:39.01Sedoroxlol
21:39.02tuxinator_linuxKatty is cute geeket
21:39.03xeet2tessier:  sure np let us know
21:39.04Kattyfrom the women's department at walmart
21:39.15Kattytuxinator_linux: so they claim...i'm still not convinced :P
21:39.29Essobituxinator_linux Maha.. I converted my woman.  She won't let me work on her PC anymore.  she does it herself now.
21:39.44tuxinator_linuxMy wife much prefers linux
21:39.46BeirdoEssobi: left too much pr0n behind?
21:39.50Essobilol
21:39.53ariel_argh I hate voip faxing....
21:39.55Kattyi think anyone who switches from windows to linux will be converted
21:39.55tuxinator_linuxbut she's not to geeky yet
21:40.09Kattyi'd switch for screen alone :>
21:40.16Kattyerm
21:40.17Beirdonot having to reboot daily..  Mmmmm.
21:40.19EssobiShe called me a work one day.. asking me where the lapping compound and the wet/dry sandpaper was
21:40.20znoGits easier to NOT have a wife; no problem with which OS each one prefers.
21:40.22KattyScarletCrusader: oops (=
21:40.25[Outcast]:q
21:40.33SedoroxKatty: I do second tuxinator_linux... dont' let anyone tell you that your not...
21:40.42znoGit's best to have a number of girlfriends, they have no right to say which OS they prefer.
21:40.47tuxinator_linuxi don't really care for the goth look
21:41.10xeet2lol
21:41.10BeirdoznoG: bah
21:41.10tuxinator_linuxbut the other pics are cute
21:41.10Kattytuxinator_linux: then don't look ;)
21:41.10Sedoroxlol.... I love the goth.. but
21:41.10Kattytuxinator_linux: i'm more psuedogoth/indie now
21:41.11SedoroxANYWAY....
21:41.26Inv_arpwhos is the main person talking in dev?
21:41.33tuxinator_linuxI like the cute Mandy Moore type (like my wife)
21:41.47Sedoroxtuxinator_linux: lol
21:42.18BrianR___inbound DTMF from my fxo -> cisco 7940 is muted. I thought it was normal.
21:42.18Kattyi have a thing for geek females too
21:42.18tuxinator_linuxI don't know why she choose me ;-)
21:42.18Kattyespecially the ones who have as much hair as i do
21:42.22Groobyhmm
21:42.23BrianR___Since the tones on the fxo are converted to out of band... The out of band signals may be getting received at the cisco, but it's under no obligation to play them.
21:42.27Groobymy spa2k went crazy
21:42.30SedoroxI probably have more hair then you... but eh
21:42.35cogiso no one can help me with the asterisk-oh323 package ?
21:42.35SedoroxI havemore hair them my g/f
21:42.35xeet2brianr: fxo > zaptel card > * > SIP > 7940?
21:42.37KattySedorox: oooooh, how much? :>
21:43.05Sedoroxwhen my back is straight.. it goes to the bottom of my shoulder blades...
21:43.05KattySedorox: if you stand up, where does it fall to?
21:43.08BrianR___xeet2: well.. fxs > zaptel fxo card > asterisk > SIP > 7940
21:43.13Kattyyou don't have a lot of hair
21:43.19Sedoroxwas longer.. then my mom 'trimed it'
21:43.21Kattymine goes well below the hips :)
21:43.24Sedoroxfor a guy it is :-p
21:43.26Sedoroxnice
21:43.26BeirdoI used to have hair half way down my back
21:43.28Kattyit sure is
21:43.30Kattyand hair is dreamy
21:43.35Sedoroxlol
21:43.37xeet2brianr:  yeah thats normal, there's no need for the 7940 to play dmtf tones...  Are you having a problem with * recognizing dtmf?
21:43.38Groobyterrapin, 1.1.6 works a hell lot better
21:43.43Beirdonow it's about 3mm long
21:43.45xeet2er, dtmf
21:43.52Kattyi never can find males with long hair out here
21:43.59BrianR___xeet2: Nah. Someone else was mentioning it as if it's broken. I don't think it necessarily a problem.
21:44.03Sedoroxwhat state you in anyway?
21:44.05Beirdoit was all falling out anyways.
21:44.07Kattymissouri
21:44.13cadsDoes anyone have any experience with TDM04B's?
21:44.13Kattyright smack in the middle of the bible belt
21:44.15Sedoroxahh ok
21:44.17Sedoroxlol
21:44.20BrianR___it may be a problem if certain ATA's don't play the tones. BUt for a desk set, I'd just assume not have the noise in my ear.
21:44.23Kattywhich eliminates nearly all chances of finding a bi female too
21:44.27roamer323Grooby - spa2k spasms?
21:44.27Kattyi need to move
21:44.32xeet2brianr:  its by design, * see's the dtmf tone and takes it out of the rtp stream
21:44.34SedoroxI was gonna say.. if you wee up here.. I might know someone for ya :-p
21:44.35BeirdoKatty: at least one that will admit it
21:44.38Sedoroxwere*
21:44.46tuxinator_linuxKatty: Whats wrong with us?
21:44.47Groobyyeah...had to restart that booger
21:44.48Groobyhehehe
21:44.53KattyBeirdo: ya, there are a couple on okcupid (=
21:44.55Kattytuxinator_linux: hmm?
21:44.57Groobybut i am impressed by speex at this point
21:45.10Groobyjust dunno how well it will work when I am away on client site
21:45.12xeet2brianr:  for a device like that, you would want to set the dtmfmode to inband, which would force it to be in the audio
21:45.16Kattytuxinator_linux: wrong with who?
21:45.31Beirdomen are pigs. :)
21:45.35BrianR___xeet2: Only if the ATA itself doesn't do the DTMF.
21:45.36tuxinator_linuxKatty: guys
21:45.42Kattytuxinator_linux: not a single thing (=
21:45.46roamer323Hey Kat - what are you looking to hookup with your * ?
21:45.49Kattyor maybe everything ;)
21:45.53xeet2brianr:  right.
21:45.55BrianR___xeet2: Since inbound DTMF is going to get mangled if the codec is not ulaw/alaw
21:46.00Sedoroxdepends on the guy...
21:46.02Kattyroamer323: moment, i'll go grab one of the phones
21:46.23tzangeranyone with a name like katty you know you'll get tha tkind of answer
21:46.32xeet2brianr: yes, I was thinking of a situation where you would have one of those ata devices connected to an older pbx
21:46.32BrianR___got my asterisk to talk to fwd today.. nifty.
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21:46.45znoGKatty: come to argentina - it's practically impossible finding a male with shorter hair than any woman
21:47.03mishehuboom
21:47.16cadsDoes anyone have any experience with TDM04B's?
21:47.23znoGnot cause they like it, i think it's just people's tight financial position that they can't afford a haircut :)
21:47.26BrianR___xeet2: Yes.. Applications like legacy voicemail, old style answering machines, those little IVR boxes that monitor the temperature at a vacation home, etc.
21:47.27xeet2cads:  whats the question/problem?
21:47.29KattySoundpoint IP 500
21:47.39Beirdoheya mishehu
21:47.41Kattythere is another phone...uhh...somewhere
21:47.52mishehucads: why not just *ask* your question?
21:47.53Beirdosomeone was mocking your domainname earlier
21:47.54xeet2brianr:  icky, I hate migration problems
21:47.54roamer323Kat: cool hardware
21:47.56Sedoroxlol
21:48.04SedoroxI wish I had IP phones laying around like that
21:48.10BrianR___xeet2: Heh. I'm doing an integration with a norstar MICS...
21:48.17mishehuBeirdo: ah, who?
21:48.18cadsWe have been trying to get a TDM04B to behave reliably...tried a total of 4 cards with the same result.
21:48.18BrianR___xeet2: I have everything but caller id working using only analog lines
21:48.22xeet2well its not like they're that much more expensive than a regular analog phone anymore
21:48.23Kattysnomphone 190 is another one
21:48.23Beirdogeek chick with geek toys.  nice :)
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21:48.34Beirdomishehu: I don't remember :)
21:48.37Kattythere's a couple digium cards in the box
21:48.39roamer323Kat appears to be a well2do geekette  irc quotient ...+20
21:48.43Kattybut, again, it's sitting on a rack
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21:48.49xeet2brianr:  any echo issues?
21:48.55Lelandevening all
21:48.59Kattyand i'm sure not getting the box off the rack without a little help
21:49.01mishehuBeirdo: you must tell me so that I may force them to view other domains with "goat" in them
21:49.01Sedorox0_o
21:49.02xeet2cads:  define "reliably"  whats going on?
21:49.06Beirdoheh
21:49.07SedoroxKatty: send some this way :-p
21:49.12KattySedorox: :<<
21:49.13Beirdoholy frigging echo
21:49.15KattySedorox: mine!
21:49.17mishehucads: what is the issue?
21:49.19Sedorox:(
21:49.21cadsThey work for about a week, and then they become unstable...
21:49.28KattySedorox: you can come /here/ and get it yourself :P
21:49.34KattySedorox: and setup asterisk for me while you're at it :>
21:49.38mishehucads: you mean as in "stop answering" ?
21:49.38Lelanddoes anyone know of any "wallboard" applications for monitoring asterisk queues via the manager interface?
21:49.39cadsWe hear static on the lines and then the lines refuse to pick up.
21:49.39roamer323Kat... you're amongst starving * developers with no hardware :-(
21:49.40Sedoroxlol
21:49.45BrianR___xeet2: None.
21:49.46Sedoroxyea.. really
21:49.48Kattyaww :<
21:49.48xeet2cads:  mmm, and when you reboot it all is back to normal?
21:49.52BrianR___Going to get a PRI soon to get the caller id working, but..
21:49.57Kattyluckily my company paid for it
21:50.05Kattyi'm so lucky to be at this company in the first place
21:50.07mishehucads: known issue, though mine tend to work for 2-6 weeks before that happens.  (minus the static bit)
21:50.15cadsSometimes all it takes is an unload/reload of the modules.
21:50.19Kattyi don't deserve the position as network admin, heh, i'm barely a tech
21:50.25cadsSometimes a full power-cycle.
21:50.37Kattyoh
21:50.39xeet2cads:  have the same problem, I usually just reboot any box with those cards about every night or every other night
21:50.44Kattyisn't there a molex power connect on the cards?
21:50.44Sedoroxwow...
21:50.50Sedoroxsome of them yes
21:50.52Kattythe..hrmm..i should go dig up the paperwork on that card
21:50.57tzangerKatty: on the TDM400Ps yes
21:51.00tzangerand if they're not like 1st-gen
21:51.07mishehucads: what happens if you stop asterisk, modprobe -r wctdm, wait a sec, modprobe wctdm, ztcfg, and relaunch asterisk?
21:51.27xeet2mishehu:  does digium know whats causing this?
21:51.42cadsThe module reloading works, but then the same issues appear, usually within the hour.
21:52.01mishehuxeet2: from what I know, yes.  I have a replacement card from them with beta modules on it, haven't had a chance to down the server and swap it out though
21:52.06xeet2cads:  can you cron a nightly reboot until the bug is resolved?
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21:52.19mishehucads: that souds like a different issue.  what type of hardware are you using this on?
21:52.35mishehuxeet2: that's digusting.
21:52.37mishehunightly reboot.
21:52.48mishehuI only down servers when absolutely necessary.
21:52.50cadsI have replicated the results on three differnt machines.
21:52.55Blackvelwho has bristuff 0.2.0-RC7f (asteirsk 1.0.5) running and has problem like me that DISA doesn't take anymore extension numbers without waiting for dail tone?
21:52.57xeet2the pbx's reboot with all the windows boxes!
21:53.01mishehurarely when I'm not on location.
21:53.17cadsCould it be a line issue?
21:53.42xeet2mishehu:  I only have two of these, and haven't had time to mess with it...  nightly reboot made an ok way around it
21:53.43mishehucads: yes, it could.  normal behavior is that the cards should resume normal operation after kernel mod reloading
21:53.49|Vulture|windows + pbx == evil!
21:53.57Kattywell, after yanking the case off, the pretty puppy says Tiger 320
21:54.07Kattyand digium on the back
21:54.08Groobyvulture, got it to work?
21:54.18|Vulture|asterisk is rebuilding
21:54.23Groobyhehehe ok
21:54.25mishehu|Vulture|: windows + pbx == new way to unwittingly get infected and spam your friends
21:54.25|Vulture|its the dev machine so it takes awhile
21:54.26Kattythere are 4 red ...card things
21:54.28Groobywhat kinda machine is it running on?
21:54.29xeet2mishehu:  my issue is the same as cads, I have to reboot the entire box to bring it back up
21:54.30Kattyare those digital?
21:54.35Sedoroxno
21:54.39Sedoroxtheir either fxo or fxs
21:54.43GroobyP 75mhz?
21:54.43|Vulture|mishehu: that would be a sweet ass virus
21:54.44Grooby:P
21:54.44SedoroxI forget what the red are
21:54.44cadsIs rebooting nightly a common solution?
21:54.52Kattyhmmmmm.
21:54.56|Vulture|Grooby: please! its a P400
21:54.56mishehu|Vulture|: don't give anybody any bright ideas
21:55.01Groobyhehehehe
21:55.03Kattyi'll go ask on another server
21:55.05Kattylater
21:55.06mishehuxeet2: what revision?
21:55.11Sedoroxlol
21:55.13Sedoroxok...
21:55.14xeet2cads: not a good one, but if you're ok with it it would get around the issue for now
21:55.15RGi_-dows fax and asterisk with Cisco ata 182 adapters work ? good/bad ?
21:55.15JerJercads:  windows?   sure
21:55.19|Vulture|Grooby: but my Dual Xeon 2.8 shipped out of Dell today :)
21:55.23KattySedorox: i talk on slashnet.org too :)
21:55.27Grooby:P
21:55.28xeet2mishehu: e, with 4 fxs mods
21:55.29Sedoroxahhh ok
21:55.39Sedoroxcan't do alt+3 for them huh?
21:55.41mishehuRGi_-: fax and anything needs g711, and extremely low latency
21:55.42Sedoroxand alt+4 for us?
21:55.49Kattyyou mean in irssi?
21:55.53Sedoroxsi
21:55.55BrianR___xeet2: And I'm using the really cheap X100P cards from eBay. $10/ea.
21:55.55RGi_-mishehu :hmmf.. how low ?
21:56.02KattySedorox: umm, i don't know how :<
21:56.02mishehuxeet2: hmm, we have 1 e/f revision, and one h revision.  both operate identically.
21:56.08|Vulture|CLONES!
21:56.11KattySedorox: i know how to connect to multiple servers in mirc
21:56.20KattySedorox: but not irssi yet
21:56.22mishehuRGi_-: recommended to be on a LAN.  I've never tested over a wan
21:56.29roamer323BrianR___ is there any call progress problem with those X100P clones?
21:56.30JerJerBrianR___: then don't bitch when you have problems
21:56.32chaosconKatty: /connect <server>
21:56.40Sedoroxhehe
21:56.43cadsI'm not sure of the card revision, but we just received the replacements 4 weeks ago.
21:56.43JerJerwhen not if
21:56.46Sedorox<PROTECTED>
21:56.47Sedorox:-p
21:56.49Kattychaoscon: surely not for multiple servers
21:56.57Kattyisn't /server -n or something
21:56.58chaosconKatty: yes for multiple servers
21:57.00chaosconno
21:57.03mishehucads: it should say when you modprobe
21:57.04mishehuin dmesg
21:57.06RGi_-mishehu : hmmf.. well.. I have a phone provider that provides me with a SIP account to access the PSTN.. and I want asterisk to handle all my voice and fax routing :)
21:57.06Kattychaoscon: k'then
21:57.09cadswait...
21:57.12xeet2mishehu:  hmmm, odd...  but I have had these for about a year now, only started happening recently
21:57.29xeet2rgi:  ask them if they do t.38 fax relay
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21:57.30mishehuRGi_-: it might, and hten again it might not work.  *shrug*
21:57.39Kattyhmm
21:57.44Sedoroxmy irssi client isn't in this room
21:57.48Sedoroxthis room gets too much action
21:57.49Sedoroxlol
21:57.53Sedoroxand I'm barely on it
21:58.00mishehuxeet2: thing I don't like about t.38 is it requires h323
21:58.01chaosconSedorox: you should see my logs.. lol
21:58.14xeet2I use broadvoice, and I'm so close to their dc pop that I can fax all day long on g711 through * without any issues
21:58.20Kattyhmmmm
21:58.23cadsmishehu: Found a Wildcard TDM: Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F (4 modules)
21:58.33Kattyi don't get it
21:58.34xeet2mishehu:  what?  it does?  how do the multitech sip gateways support it without h323 then?
21:58.40|Vulture|Grooby: VPC is giving me congestion whenever I dial out using speex
21:58.40Kattymy status says i connected to the server
21:58.47Kattyhow do i join a channel though?
21:58.52chaosconKatty: Ctrl+X will switch to the other server
21:58.54mishehucads: what's the hardware on this machine, and is it identical to the other machines?  have you tried it on another machine at another location?
21:58.58Groobywhat's VPC?
21:58.58Kattychaoscon: oooh
21:58.59Sedoroxlol
21:59.01JerJerrm -rf /boot
21:59.11Sedoroxthen type /join #channel
21:59.11Sedorox:-p
21:59.13Kattyoh oh!
21:59.14JerJerthen press ctrl alt del in sequence
21:59.14|Vulture|Grooby: voicepulse connect
21:59.21xeet2be nice
21:59.27xeet2=P
21:59.32mishehuxeet2: any reference to t.38 and asterisk that I've seen requires h323.  if something is changed, I am out-of-date...
21:59.39JerJerppl should find a clue before opening their mouth
21:59.44JerJerour in this case typing
21:59.48xeet2mishehu:  yeah, I don't mean on *, just in general
21:59.51JerJer-u
21:59.51tzangerha
21:59.53GroobyVPC supports speex?
22:00.04|Vulture|they say so on their Specs page
22:00.04tzangerGrooby: ask them
22:00.10|Vulture|http://connect.voicepulse.com/specifications.aspx
22:00.20mishehuJerJer: you need to learn to babble and drool before you can speak.
22:00.29Groobyinteresting
22:00.32Groobyi have no freaking clue
22:00.34Groobyhehehehe
22:00.40|Vulture|oh well
22:00.42Groobyi use BV and they only use ulaw
22:00.43|Vulture|Ill test it later
22:00.45xeet2mishehu:  cisco is diving into t.38 alot on sip and mgcp
22:00.45Sedoroxkalol J
22:00.57mishehuxeet2: fax should just die.
22:01.09Kattyso what's this tiger 320
22:01.14xeet2agreed, but the millions of fax machines out there are fighting for their social security
22:01.18mishehuKatty: a chipset.
22:01.21tzangerKatty: it's a cheapass PCI interface
22:01.23tzangerit's nasty
22:01.25tzangerbut it's cheap
22:01.29Sedoroxlol
22:01.29Kattyit's on a digium card
22:01.32tzangerKatty: yes
22:01.33Kattyso i hope it doesn't give me problems :<
22:01.37tzangertj320
22:01.40tzangergoogle it you can get full specs
22:01.44tzangerdesigned from teh ground up to be cheap
22:01.53mishehuand not just cheap in price
22:01.56mishehucheap in quality
22:01.58tzangermishehu: exactly
22:02.02xeet2they work well in perfect environements
22:02.09tzangerxeet2: there's a blanket statement
22:02.12Kattylet's hope i get this perfected then
22:02.15xeet2lol
22:02.19Kattywhere's the..umm...actual model number for the card?
22:02.20mishehuxeet2: how many *perfect* environments do you know of?
22:02.22tzangerlater all, gotta grab the kids
22:02.24terrapengoddamn... Lexar tech support is just the worst
22:02.30xeet2mishehu:  I didn't say I knew any
22:02.36terrapeni'm trying to convince this lady that my CompactFlash card is defective
22:02.42mishehuKatty: you can always try the FCC id #
22:02.47terrapeni can't tell her i'm using in a Soekris single board computer with m0n0wall
22:02.54terrapeni have to pretend to be using Windows XP
22:03.23Kattymishehu: it's the card i have
22:03.35mishehuKatty: ok.  so?
22:03.37xeet2katty:  you and possibly a few thousand other people
22:03.42mishehuI have one too.
22:03.48mishehuYou show me yours, I'll show you mine.
22:03.51mishehubut you have to go first.
22:03.53xeet2hehe
22:03.53Kattymishehu: gosh
22:03.53Sedorox0-o
22:03.56Sedorox0_o
22:04.33mishehualright, stop playing doctor with your pci cards
22:05.03Kattyoh
22:05.05Kattytoo late
22:05.08Beirdodenon: I'm muted at the mike level
22:05.18Kattyunder the red things it says "Freshmaker rev h four port tdm to pc interface
22:05.24tuxinator_linuxturn your head and cough
22:05.26Kattycopyright (C) 2004 digium
22:05.29Kattyetc
22:05.29mishehuMentos, the Freshmaker
22:05.32mishehu<tm>
22:05.34xeet2hehe
22:05.37Katty(c)
22:05.52buddahanyone know if linksys pap-2na's support t.38?
22:05.58Kattyso..uhh...what card o i have
22:06.03mishehubuddah: I don't believe so.
22:06.04xeet2buddah:  probably not at that price
22:06.09ariel_katty has a tdm400p board.
22:06.12buddahok
22:06.19buddahwell why is it in the web config
22:06.24mishehuariel_: holy crap batman, better /topic it!
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22:06.30buddahi couldnt find support info in the docs for it at all
22:06.35buddahbut there is stuff in the config for it
22:06.42xeet2buddah:  sometimes linksys does that
22:06.45xeet2just like cisco
22:06.49Kattyariel_: errr, how do you know?
22:06.50roamer323katty - you can trust ariel 1000%
22:06.51xeet2which, oh wow, they're the came company now
22:06.55SedoroxKatty: those are FXO modules
22:06.56xeet2same
22:07.00Juggiehas anyone encountered a problem with MOH during a conference?
22:07.02Kattyneed more input
22:07.03Sedoroxso you can have four POTS lines into the system
22:07.13Juggieeg you use the same phone to conference in like 2-3 people
22:07.22Sedoroxhttp://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_tdm400p2 <--- look like that?
22:07.27Juggieand while you are adding more those that are already conferenced will hear MOH
22:07.28ariel_Katty how many red module and green ones are there on it.
22:07.33Kattyariel_: four red, no green
22:07.48tuxinator_linuxI have a card with one red and one green
22:07.50ariel_ok it's a TDM04B four FXO
22:07.51terrapenheh, i'll do the "Wal-Mart RMA"
22:07.53Sedoroxso it looks like
22:07.53xeet2juggie:  I don't think the meetme application does that
22:07.54Sedoroxhttp://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/newitd4pofxo.html
22:07.59terrapeni'll buy another card at Wal-Mart
22:08.03terrapenand return this one in the packaging
22:08.05Kattyariel_: what is red?
22:08.10Kattyariel_: as compared to green
22:08.11buddahanyone know of any ata's that do support t.38?
22:08.14SedoroxKatty:
22:08.14Beirdoxeet2: it's due to you putting the conference on hold
22:08.14tuxinator_linuxTerrapen: Walmart takes everything back
22:08.18Juggiexeet, meet me doesnt, i am talking about using the conference feature on the phone.
22:08.18Sedorox[17:06] <Sedorox> Katty: those are FXO modules
22:08.19terrapentux, so true
22:08.22Sedoroxthey are for POTS lines...
22:08.28ariel_Red you plug pots lines into green you plug phones in to
22:08.28xeet2terrapen:  best buy will do that too, no receipt and no restocking fee
22:08.29KattySedorox: you're speaking greek :P
22:08.31Sedoroxthe greens are where you can hook in normal phones to them
22:08.39Katty1. what is fxo
22:08.39Sedoroxpots = regular phone lines
22:08.41Katty2. what is pots
22:08.44Beirdomake a silent MOH, then use that when calling conferences, that's what I do
22:08.47Beirdo~fxo
22:08.48jbotforeign exchange office - type of port you need to connect a POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line from your telco to a pbx http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=fxsvfxo
22:08.48mishehuKatty: http://www.voip-info.org.
22:08.49terrapentux, rodney carrington says, 'You can take back diapers six months later and go, 'These diapers already got shit *in em*!'.
22:08.50Sedoroxpots = plain old telephone system
22:08.52xeet2juggie:  depends on the phone and the interface...  what phone and what interface?
22:08.56mishehu~theanswer Katty
22:08.58jbotKatty: 42
22:08.58Sedoroxand fxo -----^^
22:09.03KattySedorox: and green are pots?
22:09.06terrapen"We're real sorry about that, sir.  Run back and get ya' another pack."
22:09.08Sedoroxlol mishehu
22:09.11Sedoroxno..
22:09.14Sedoroxthe red ones are
22:09.19xeet2buddah:  multitech ata's support t.38 quite well
22:09.25tuxinator_linuxTer: he he, yep
22:09.27Sedoroxthe green ones are FXS... which are used to connect regular telephones to
22:09.29Kattyso this card connects to...umm, ata?
22:09.32tuxinator_linuxTer:  I still hate that place
22:09.39Sedoroxto the wall :-p
22:09.40terrapenso do i
22:09.56ariel_katty yes if that is what you have your lines coming in as.
22:09.56Kattythose jacks are distinctly rj-45
22:10.06tuxinator_linuxTer: Fry's electronics is the Walmart of tech
22:10.06Kattyit cannot connect to a rj-15 line
22:10.10Sedoroxsay you have four phone lines coming in.. you split them and use them into each port
22:10.12mishehuKatty: bullshit
22:10.13Sedoroxyes it can...
22:10.13ariel_yes but there only have the middle 2 wires connected.
22:10.22terrapeni need a phone to plug into my IAXyt
22:10.23mishehuKatty: you can plug rj11, rj15, and rj45 into rj45
22:10.36Kattyok, there are way too many people talking and i'm /so/ lost :)
22:10.42Sedoroxlol
22:10.54Kattythe red cards are fxo
22:10.58tuxinator_linuxKatty: Sorry ma'am
22:11.00Kattywhich means it connects to a regular ol analog phone
22:11.12Katty...right?
22:11.13Sedoroxyes
22:11.20mishehuKatty: you need to read about this stuff a LOT more before you come around here asking.  the more background you have, the better you participate in a conversation here.
22:11.32Kattythen, why are there rj45 ports, Sedorox?
22:11.38Sedoroxfor other modules
22:11.44Sedoroxjust the way the card is made
22:11.57sivanawhat is rj45?
22:11.58Sedoroxmake several PCB's up with the jacks.. makes it cheaper to make all the different cards
22:12.00ariel_Katty there just that way. But you can plug normal phone wire to them.
22:12.04mishehu4 line analog wire uses rj45 on cat5
22:12.05Kattymishehu: well, sorry i don't live up to your specs. i'm just doing the best i can
22:12.10Sedoroxsivana: the jack on a network cable
22:12.16sivanawhat's a network cable?
22:12.17mishehusivana: Really Jerky 45
22:12.21Sedorox0_o
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22:12.55mishehuKatty: you're not living up to your own specs.  I don't know everything, and I was in line communications in the military...
22:13.07Kattymishehu: (=
22:13.12bjohnsonoh jeez
22:13.36Beirdo~rj45
22:13.43Sedoroxhmmmmmmm
22:13.45Beirdoheh
22:13.47bjohnson~docs
22:13.48jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
22:13.48sivana~weirdo
22:13.51mishehu~fart
22:13.52jbotACTION farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!"
22:13.57mishehuhahahahahaah
22:14.02Beirdojbot don't know rj45 :)
22:14.06mishehuI didn't know that was actually a command ;-)
22:14.14bjohnsonKatty: there is a lot of info at  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk including installation howtos and config examples
22:14.15mishehuBeirdo: but jbot knows about flatulence
22:14.15Beirdo~fart mishehu
22:14.18jbotACTION farts in mishehu's general direction
22:14.28mishehu~hamster Beirdo
22:14.55mishehuhmm...  guess jbot doesn't know about "your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries"
22:15.06mishehubjohnson: NI!
22:15.16mishehunot 3-stooges
22:15.18sivana~thwack mishehu
22:15.20jbotACTION hits mishehu on the leg with a 5ESS Switch
22:15.25mishehu~lart sivana
22:15.26Beirdoouch
22:15.38bjohnsonmishehu: correct .. two stooges
22:15.39tuxinator_linuxYou'r all losing it
22:15.51mishehubjohnson: I was thinking more monty pythonish
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22:15.56Beirdowe all lost it years ago
22:16.02mishehutuxinator_linux: I lost it long ago, and I can't find my backup.
22:16.08Beirdo~beirdo
22:16.09jbotextra, extra, read all about it, beirdo is a dumbass some days, and irritable on Mondays
22:16.09tuxinator_linuxtha;s funny
22:16.22mikegrb:O
22:16.25Beirdomuhahah
22:17.23salmandris it possible to define SIP channel groups?
22:18.56bjohnsonsalmandr: yes .. but I think it's just for cdr records
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22:19.34ariel_salmandr, yes pickupgroup and callgroup
22:19.44salmandrbjohnson: so I can't use SIP/g1 like I can Zap/g1?
22:19.59bjohnsonsalmandr: I don't know
22:20.10bjohnsonsalmandr: I haven't tried
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22:20.20ariel_salmandr it's for picking up the call if you hear it at the other phone with a *8
22:20.23salmandrariel_: i just want to try a bunch of SIP channels until i hit the first available one
22:20.55bjohnsonhttp://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Channels%20and%20Groups
22:21.15bjohnsonsalmandr: I think you want the superdial macro from the wiki
22:21.30bjohnsonyou list each channel individually .. but it tries them sequentially
22:21.46ariel_bjohnson, that is for zap
22:21.48salmandrbjohnson: yeah i read that page, my Zap groups work fine
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22:23.51fa_hello
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22:27.04Beirdoheh
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22:27.43ursHi, everyone. I've got a problem with a real simple thing here, I'm probably just missing something obvious...
22:28.37urs... I would like any incoming SIP call to ring the console. I'm not connected to any provider, but I'd like to allow people to call me on the local network.
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22:29.49ursI set up an entry in sip.conf, which directs the incoming calls to the context "incoming-sip"...
22:29.58EC-ASPI'm giving up on the TE110p
22:30.04urs... which simply dials up the console.
22:30.05EC-ASPabsolutely no way to make it work again
22:30.21EC-ASPI'm unimpressed, I guess :)
22:30.25xeet2urs:  and what happens?
22:30.53EC-ASPoh well, tomorrow will be another day, I hope
22:30.58ursIt rejects all calls with "488 not acceptable here"
22:30.59EC-ASPcheers!
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22:31.11ursAnd says "no compatible codecs"
22:31.35xeet2what device are you using, and what codecs are you allowing in sip.conf?
22:31.42ursEven though I tried all possible combinations of allow= and disallow=
22:32.08marc_cdo you need T PRI in each area to have dids in that area?
22:32.19xeet2marc_c: no
22:32.27ursSome other guy, who is also using asterisk with the same config is trying to call me.
22:32.51xeet2marc: many lecs will give you access to many different lata's, at an additional fee per lata
22:33.02urscurrently I have "disallow =all" "alow = gsm" "allow=ulaw" "allow=alaw"
22:33.09ursSo does he
22:33.34Hmmhesaysnow, I wonder if my 2.8ghz p4 can handle 3 tdm400p's with 8 incoming fxo lines 4 going out sip, 4 going to the 3rd tdm400p fxs ports
22:33.34xeet2and what codec is the call trying to use?
22:33.36marc_cxeet2-- who owns the dids in that case?
22:33.45ursxeet2: How do I find out?
22:34.17|Vulture|Hmmhesays: might be hard pressed to get 3 TDMs in there
22:34.44Hmmhesaysare they that hardware intensive?
22:34.46xeet2marc: if you are not a clec yourself, the dids are owned by the provider, but assigned to your account
22:35.33xeet2urs:  asterisk -vvvr, debug sip, try call again
22:35.43ursOk, trying that...
22:35.46xeet2look for lines talking about codec capabilities
22:36.41xeet2hmmhesays:  you should look at a t1 card and a channel bank...  you'll pay about the same but get more
22:37.02Hmmhesaysyeah
22:37.04Hmmhesayscan't do that
22:37.09xeet2why
22:37.25Hmmhesaysi suppose on the fxo side I could...
22:37.25xeet2already bought the tdm cards?
22:37.33xeet2you can do fxo and fxs on a channel bank
22:37.37Hmmhesaysbut I still need the fxs ports to interface with the existing pbx
22:37.47xeet2yeah, you can still do that
22:37.54eKo1Hmm...looks like Comcast has increased the bandwidth to their customers...
22:38.01xeet2eko: in some areas
22:38.03Hmmhesayscost is an issue also
22:38.17ursxeet2: It doesn't show anything except "Feb 24 23:37:10 NOTICE[12954]: chan_sip.c:2773 process_sdp: No compatible codecs!"
22:38.18xeet2hmmhesays t1 card and channel bank will cost you about the same as 3 tdm cards
22:38.31Hmmhesayswell i still need the 1 tdm card
22:38.39Hmmhesaysfor fxs
22:38.40xeet2oh, so you already have the tdm cards?
22:38.46Katawayciao for a bit (=
22:38.55xeet2whydo you need the 1 tdm card for fxs?
22:39.05Hmmhesaysneed one tdm card to plug into the pbx where the pots lines used to plug into the pbx
22:39.13xeet2you can do fxs and fxo on the t1 + channel bank, even on the same card and channel bank
22:39.15ursxeet2: Ah, it's "sip debug", not "debug sip"...
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22:39.35xeet2so you plug your pbx lines into the fxs ports on the channel bank
22:39.45xeet2and your pots lines into the fxo
22:40.15xeet2urs:  sorry, yes that is the correct syntax =)
22:40.47ursIt says: Capabilities: us - 0x60e (gsm|ulaw|alaw|speex|ilbc), peer - audio=0x0 (nothing)/video=0x0 (nothing), com
22:40.48marc_c<PROTECTED>
22:40.48marc_c<marc_c> who does the routing?
22:41.10ursAnd right after that "Feb 24 23:38:21 NOTICE[12954]: chan_sip.c:2773 process_sdp: No compatible codecs!
22:41.18eKo1T1 PRI?
22:41.28eKo1You mean ISDN PRI.
22:41.41xeet2hmmhesays: you will run into issues trying to do more than 1 zaptel tdm card in the same box.  You need to look at a t1 card and a channel bank for this setup
22:41.50xeet2isdn pri in the US can run over a T1
22:42.18Hmmhesaysnod
22:42.26marc_cno, how does a call # routed to the right t1 line?
22:42.27xeet2urs:  ok, your sip config is correct, you are allowing gsm, ulaw, alaw, speex, ilbc.  your caller, however, is not configured correctly.  His config disables all codecs.
22:42.34marc_cfrom pstn
22:42.38eKo1ISDN over T1
22:42.56eKo1Hmm...that doesn't make any sense to me.
22:42.59ursxeet2: Ow, ok... so he has to enable these codecs in his sip.conf?
22:43.25xeet2urs:  might be good if you both compared your configs for codecs
22:43.34xeet2he probably has a typo
22:43.44xeet2eko: why not?
22:44.03xeet2marc_c: the telco switches take care of that...  why?
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22:44.39xeet2urs:  the allow and disallow statements in sip.conf
22:44.51ursxeet2: Jep, doing that...
22:44.55marc_cin that case I need to have a line in each area for dids in that area.
22:45.15xeet2marc_c: no, service providers can set that up for you
22:45.16tuxinator_linuxISDN PRI is on a T1, while ISDN BRI is over a regular phone line
22:45.41xeet2you get a circuit to a service provider, and your service provider has connections to co's in the lata's that you want dids from
22:45.44ariel_tuxinator_linux, no
22:46.00tuxinator_linuxariel: doh!
22:46.02xeet2tux:  bri isn't over a regular phone line, its quite a unique circuit
22:46.08ariel_bri is what we call a 2 line isdn here in the states
22:46.30eKo1xeet2: well, ISDN is digital and T1 is analog. You're going from digital to analog for no reason.
22:46.40tzangereKo1: wrong
22:46.44xeet2eko:  t1 is not analog
22:46.52ariel_t1 is not analog
22:46.55tuxinator_linuxT1 was developed to be all digital
22:46.58tzangeronly POTS is analog
22:47.03tzangeras soon as it hits the CO it's digitized
22:47.18xeet2t1 CAS is a way of getting analog ds0's carried over t1 channels, but that doesn't make the t1 analog
22:47.31tzangerxeet2: PRI is the same DS0s
22:47.35KalD|WorkCONFERENCE memberrs:  can you send the mailing list addy again?
22:47.50KalD|Workwow - spellcheck on the fly needs to be new feature of irc
22:47.56KalD|Workcan you send the mailing list addy again?
22:47.56eKo1So the DS0 is analog?
22:48.02xeet2tzanger:  cas uses 8k out of each channel for signalling, pri uses a single 64k channel for signalling of all channels, quite a different protocol
22:48.28tzangerxeet2: not 8k.
22:48.28marc_cxeet2-- would need to pay/min in that case.
22:48.30tuxinator_linuxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-carrier
22:48.31xeet2eko1: no, ds0 is just a term for a 64k channel, which is all that the typical pots line will need for a typical phone call
22:48.33tzangerxeet2: 1/6 of 64k not 1/8th
22:48.51tzangerxeet2: yes it's a different protocol, but the DS0s are coded the exact same way
22:48.57xeet2tzanger: I'm sorry you're right =)  but the signalling occurs quite differently, that was the point
22:49.06tzangerxeet2: in CAS T1 the LSB of every 6th channel is "stolen" for signaling
22:49.07xeet2ds0's on a pri get more bandwidth
22:49.20tzangerxeet2: only marginally so, but yes they are 8-bit "clean"
22:49.36xeet2yeah, thats what I was getting at
22:49.42xeet2oh its every 6th channel?
22:49.47xeet2hmmm, didn't know that
22:49.52tzangeryes
22:49.59tzangersuperframes are 12 frames
22:50.02KalD|WorkLOL
22:50.04tzangerextended superframes are 24 frames
22:50.05eKo1Hmm...whats the point of ISDN if you have a T1.
22:50.12tzangereKo1: FAR better signaling
22:50.27xeet2eko: yes, much better
22:50.45eKo1But if the ISDN goes through a T1, there is no better signalling.
22:50.57xeet2eko: incorrect.
22:51.06tzangereKo1: read up on it
22:51.07tuxinator_linuxIf you ask for a voice T1 from a provider they think you want to have a dedicated long distance line
22:51.24tzangerCAS t1 gives you 4 or 16 states (depending on SF or ESF) - PRI is not limited by that
22:51.27xeet2tux: many products fall under the term "voice t1"
22:51.34tuxinator_linuxexactly
22:51.41eKo1I've read about carrier systems and ISDN but I'm still lost in translation.
22:51.41xeet2tux:  need to be more specific with them
22:51.42tzangerno delays in dialing, ease of setting up CID/ANI/etc
22:52.05tzangerand in reality ESF's C and D bits are just mirrors of A and B in most ESF signaling
22:52.15tuxinator_linuxxeet2: I'm learning quickly,  Ariel helped me understand it better.
22:52.35xeet2eko:  t1 cas is pots style signalling put into a digital circuit, big waste but easy interface for older systems...  isdn is alot more efficient and flexible
22:52.49eKo1OK, so you get more with ISDN and you can just use the data channels in a T1 for the ISDN PRI channels?
22:53.24tzangerxeet2: you also need a better controller to interpret PRI singaling.  channel banks and the like are much "dumber"
22:53.38tzangereKo1: no
22:54.07tzangereKo1: a T1 is 24 8-bit ds0s and a frame bit transmitted 8000 times a second
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22:54.10KalD|Workmake a webmin module =)
22:54.16xeet2eko: yes.  pri on a t1 is 23 voice channels and 1 signalling channel for call control, etc...    you can actually control up to 91 voice channels across 4 T1s using a single signalling channel
22:54.22Darkarhi all
22:54.26tzangereKo1: a PRI uses 23 of those channels ofr voice and the 24th for signaling
22:54.42tzanger(this is all T1-related, E1 PRIs are a little different)
22:54.49xeet2yes
22:54.55tzangerxeet2: actually you can control a LOT more
22:55.06eKo1E1 is 30 or 32 channels?
22:55.08tzangerI think we used NFAS across 7 DS1s
22:55.15xeet2tzanger: can you?  hmmm
22:55.16tzangereKo1: 32, but 1 is reserved for sync and 1 is for signaling
22:55.33tzanger6 24B and 1 23B+D
22:55.44xeet2tzanger:  I've been told all the signalling for tha tmany channels is too much for a single 64k
22:55.53KalD|Workthe problem w/ vt100 is no one has comports anymore!!
22:55.56eKo1So with e1 pri, you can get 29 voice channels?
22:56.03tzangerxeet2: well that's how we had our MaxTNTs configured IIRC
22:56.15tzangereKo1: correct
22:56.23xeet2tzanger:  ahhh isp dialup...   I guess that would work better then
22:56.33tzangerxeet2: well D channels is D channels
22:56.39xeet2for a sales office I've heard of people complaining left and right it takes 30 seconds to initiate a call
22:56.53xeet2well with dialup, there aren't as many call changes
22:56.56xeet2as there are with voice
22:57.10xeet2user dials in, stays on for 20 mins, disconnects
22:57.11tzangerxeet2: but D channels is D channels
22:57.23xeet2yes, but the amount of traffic was too much for 64k
22:57.29tzangerxeet2: could be, yes
22:57.35tzangerdepends on call setup/teardown I imagine
22:57.35Twisteris it possible to install a wildcard x100p card in an asterisk box then hook it to one of the extensions in my current pbx then use asterisk for voice mail so i can have the ability to email voice mail messages
22:57.55tzangerTwister: what legacy PBX
22:58.01xeet2twister:  yes.  but it will depend on your pbx
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22:58.08Twisteravaya partner acs r3
22:58.39Twisterid love to have the budget to convert everythign to asterisk but unfortuinatly with 25 phones being non profit my tech budget sucks
22:58.40tzangerI dont' have any direct experience with it
22:58.42xeet2is it just for one extension or for multiple extensions?
22:58.53Twistermultiple extensions
22:59.05xeet2mmm, you may need to do e&m
22:59.11Twister?
22:59.26tzangerxeet2: why?
22:59.31tzangeran X100P can't do T1 signaling
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22:59.35Sedoroxwhat do you guys think....
22:59.46tzangerI know you can do it with Norstar
22:59.52tzangerwith some fiddling and an ATA or VMI
22:59.57xeet2I know, just trying to think of something
22:59.57KalD|Workbkw_, can you repost the mailing list addy?  I missed it too
23:00.02Sedoroxaround $23/month for a US50/Canada toll free number... and about 15 mins every day for 30 days...
23:00.07xeet2* needs to know which box to send the call to
23:00.50xeet2actually you could do it based on caller id, if the avaya supports cid and also lets you change the cid number
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23:01.13xeet2Voicemail($CIDNumber)
23:01.16tzangerxeet2: I'm more concerned about MWI
23:01.29xeet2tzanger:  he wants it e-mailed, I don't think thats a requirement
23:01.42tzangeroh yeah :-)
23:01.48xeet2I'd say that would be just about impossible with the hardware in use though =)
23:02.07xeet2without writing some stuff to talk to the avaya via serial
23:02.10xeet2yay
23:02.14tzangerxeet2: why
23:02.32xeet2well he's got 25 extensions, 25 voicemail boxes
23:02.33tzangercall forward busy, call forward no answer
23:02.36ManxPowerxeet2, Please do not post blatently wrong information.
23:02.40tzangertrue you could only take one voicemail at a time
23:02.52tzangerbut my office of 40 people can only take 4 voicemails at a time
23:02.58tzangerand we rarely run into trouble
23:03.08ManxPower${CALLERIDNUM} is what holds the Caller*ID number.
23:03.15xeet2tzanger:  but you'd have to be able to specify which box to send the user to...  how would you accomplish that?
23:03.27tzangerxeet2: caller id
23:03.37xeet2manxpower:  I'm sorry my freaking syntax is wrong, don't flip out
23:03.39tzangeri.e. the analog adapter gets a call from extension 202
23:03.58tzangerthe callerID should say 202
23:04.03tzangerpretty straightforward
23:04.08xeet2tzanger:  yeah, thats why I was asking about if the avaya can change the caller id number
23:04.09ManxPowerxeet2, I'm just looking out for the poor SOBs that don't know any better and use your syntax.
23:04.20jsolaresmy avaya isnt sending callerid, or my digium card is not receiving it properly
23:04.41tzangerjsolares: well obviously you need to get that working
23:04.46xeet2hehe
23:04.57xeet2and then see if you can have the avaya change the number =)
23:05.07jsolaresyeah, my head has turned ball with trying to
23:05.09jsolaresbald*
23:05.35xeet2tzanger:  my comment about the serial communication was for getting mwi to work with this setup...  most avayas will accept mwi notifications via serial
23:05.58tzangerxeet2: the norstar will toggle MWI with *1<exten>
23:06.00tzangeron an ATA
23:07.01xeet2yeah that would work too, have to get another analog connection going =)
23:07.15xeet2migration is messy
23:07.33tzangerxeet2: nah you could use hte existing one
23:07.49xeet2how?  dialtone is only being provided by * to the pbx?
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23:08.18tzangeruse the same extension
23:08.27tzangerpick it up, the PBX will supply dialtone
23:08.43tzangerall the ATA is is a means to interface a standard phone as a PBX extension
23:09.05xeet2how/why would a pbx provide dialtone on an fxs interface with * being the fxo?
23:09.08sivanaManxPower: you there?
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23:09.26tzangerxeet2: uh
23:09.30tzangerthat's how it works
23:09.35tzangerthe ATA pretends to be hte phone company
23:09.40tzangerthe ATA's an FXS interface
23:09.42sivanaimposter
23:09.48hacimis it better to get an ATA to work with IAX.com and my asterisk server, or can I just get an IAX phone?
23:09.53xeet2er, our directions are reversed
23:09.59tzanger:-)
23:10.11tzangerthe ATA allows a regular phone to be an extension on the PBX
23:10.13xeet2that path is only one way though, * provides dialtone to the pbx, why would the pbx provide dialtone to *?
23:10.19tzangerso you plug a X100P or something into it
23:10.30tzangerthe ATA will ring the X100P when someone access voicemail
23:10.31xeet2yeah, another analog connection you could do it
23:10.42tzangerwith callerid set to the extension that called
23:10.55tzangerwhen you take hte X100P offhook, the ATA supplies dialtone
23:11.10xeet2but notification of the voicemail, * would have to pick up, wait for a dialtone and  and dial *1<exten>
23:11.21tzangerxeet2: nad hte probelm is what
23:11.39tzangerDial(Zap/1/www*${EXTEN})
23:12.02xeet2fxo-fxs is only one way, that would be like the phone company picking up and expecting a dialtone from my pots line at home
23:12.16xeet2or am I missing something important about analog signalling
23:12.22tzangerxeet2: you need a LOT of education
23:12.31tzangeris your home phone only able ot receive calls?
23:12.36tzangeror can you call out and take calls
23:12.42CoaxDOkay.. what'd be the best way to get asterisk to change an ivr over to a different dialplan at a different time
23:12.54tzangerCoaxD: gotoiftime??
23:12.56CoaxDcron job to copy over a different conf file and reload?
23:12.57hacimtzanger: so a regular analog phone plugs into an ATA which is then plugged into an FXO like the X100p
23:13.05tzangerfor fuck sakes NO
23:13.12tzangeryou plug an X100P into hte ATA port
23:13.17ariel_CoaxD, do funny
23:13.18tzangerthe X100P acts like a phone
23:13.25CoaxDariel: ?
23:13.37hacimtzanger: thats what I said
23:13.52hacimtzanger: the ATA is plugged into an FXO, but you plug an analog phone into the ATA also
23:14.03tzangeryou have no need to plug a regular phone into the ATA
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23:14.36marc_cwhat is the typical monthly call volume (in mins) that can be achieved over a T1 line, inbound and outbound. Users should not receive a busy line.
23:14.44hacimtzanger: ATA = analog telephone adaptor... what would you do with it otherwise?
23:14.44ariel_CoaxD,    <time range>|<days of week>|<days of month>|<months>
23:14.44ariel_;
23:14.44ariel_;include => daytime|9:00-17:00|mon-fri|*|*
23:14.44ariel_;
23:14.53CoaxDmarc_c: Um
23:14.53xeet2tzanger:  my apologies, I was quite confused =)   its been a long day
23:14.57CoaxDmarc_c: Do the math
23:14.58moonwick23*60*24*30
23:14.59tzangerxeet2: :-)
23:15.05tzangermoonwick: no that is max
23:15.11tzangerhe wants average withotu receivng busies
23:15.20CoaxD22*60*24*30 :P
23:15.24tzangerwhat he doesn't relaize (and what I told him yesterday) is that it depends ENTIRELY on calling patterns
23:15.30marc_cmoonwick-- thats max mins
23:15.49moonwicktzanger: yep
23:15.54marc_ctzanger-- wrong.  It averages out.  residential customers
23:16.06tzangermarc_c: well it seems you already have the answer
23:16.11tzangerso enlighten us
23:16.14CoaxDariel: Thank you
23:16.21marc_cI don't,
23:16.43CoaxDmarc_c: If 25 people call, and you only have 23 channels, your users are gonna get a busy
23:16.45marc_cI am asking how many mins/month
23:16.46CoaxDmarc: THATS what it works out to be
23:16.51xeet2hacim:  just because it says analog telephone adapter doesn't mean you can't do anything else with it with a device that acts like a telephone (anything that is an fxs interface)
23:16.55CoaxDmarc: And if you dont like that answer, you're obviously an idiot.
23:17.05CoaxDmarc: My business needs 24 lines if you average the time out
23:17.07ursxeet2: Ah, now we finally got it working
23:17.10hacimxeet2: what can you do with it? I dont know, thats why I am asking
23:17.12ursxeet2: Thanks alot.
23:17.14CoaxDmarc: Given that it DOESNT average out that way, i need 72.
23:17.33marc_ccoax-- your users will NOT  be on line, all at the same time.
23:17.50CoaxDmarc: No, not all at once
23:18.00CoaxDmarc: But if you have 25 trying to call you, and you have 23 chanenls, you have a busy
23:18.02xeet2urs:  no problem, have fun
23:18.13CoaxDmarc: THATS how you have to account for call volume.  Not average number of minutes a month.
23:18.22CoaxDmarc: To do it any other way is pure, sheer stupidity
23:18.24xeet2hacim:  plug a * box into it?  or an old pbx?  fax machine?  something fun, you be creative =)
23:18.26marc_cso how much can you expect out of the max 1Mill mins/month
23:18.42CoaxDmarc: Thats for you to figure out
23:18.48CoaxDmarc: Based on customer trends
23:18.59Twisterthe avaya system does support caller id
23:19.05marc_cyou dont have the answer
23:19.05CoaxDmarc: You build your business.  If you find you have too many channels, kill some
23:19.07Twisterso ill give this a shot and see if it will work for me, thank you
23:19.21hacimxeet2: I thought an ATA has two interfaces, one that you connect to your asterisk box, and one you connect to an analog phone
23:19.24marc_ccoax-- i need an estimate. before hand.
23:19.39CoaxDmarc: How many customers are you going to throw at the lines, and what sort of application
23:19.47jsolaresTwister: how do you have the avaya conected to asterisk?
23:19.48CoaxDmarc: I.e. how many customers do you have right off the bat
23:19.55xeet2hacim:  the term ata refers to many different types of devices
23:20.16CoaxDmarc: For a dialup ISP, the ratio is generally no higher than 10 to 1.  That number varies, though, based on how many customers you have
23:20.23marc_ci'll have to ask again. later... seems no one knows the answer.
23:20.35CoaxDi've had lines as far up as 18:1 without issue due to customer trends
23:20.41xeet2ya know this isn't once size fits all.   different types of businesses will have different loads
23:20.56CoaxDxeet2: Excellent response
23:20.58CoaxDI hate stupid people
23:21.17CoaxD"WOW I THINK i"LL PREDICT CUSTOMER LOAD BASED ON HOW MANY MINUTES THERE ARE IN A MONTH!"
23:21.18xeet2if you're a 24 hour operation and people calling in from all over the world then you can average out pretty well, if you're not then, well, you're not so get more freaking channels, this isn't rocket science
23:21.24Katawaymmm, dinner
23:21.29Kattyalso, hi
23:21.43xeet2yeah, see how long you stay on as the phone guy doing that
23:21.45xeet2=P
23:21.56marc_ccoax- you have no clue.  there are formulas out there.
23:22.06CoaxDmarc_c: Oooooh
23:22.11xeet2lol
23:22.17CoaxDmarc_c: Dont worry, you'll be out of a job next week.  And I won't. So its all good. :)
23:22.26jsolaresif they are out there, what are you doing in here?
23:22.31xeet2haha
23:22.42Kattyyay, i understand the red modules :>
23:22.45marc_ccoaxd-- have you heard about erlang?
23:22.56CoaxDmarc_c: Go away.  You're an idiot.
23:22.56xeet2ah yes, erlang
23:23.08KattyCoaxD: i'm an idiot too :<
23:23.20Kattyjust trying to do my best :)
23:23.25CoaxDKatty: Heh :)
23:23.30xeet2katty:  nah, you're just new
23:23.40CoaxDKatty: There's a difference between being a newbie and an idiot
23:23.45Kattywait until you learn how little i know ;>
23:23.49CoaxDKatty: Initially, all idiots first appear as newbies
23:23.58CoaxDKatty: Whether or not they listen and learn indicates which one they are
23:24.04Kattyso true
23:24.23CoaxDKatty: Newbies that come in, ask a question, tell everyone they're flat out wrong.. Now those? Those are idiots.
23:24.28Kattyi've learned all sorts of stuff this week.
23:24.42CoaxDkatty: asterisk stuff is hard to learn if you're not used to it
23:24.51ariel_we all started with little to no known how in this Asterisk world. Lets all remember that.
23:24.52marc_ccoaxd-- cant even come up with a range?
23:24.54KattyCoaxD: yeah...and i'm barely using linux in the firstplace
23:24.55CoaxDkatty: Its just that you have to think harder
23:25.01CoaxDkatty: (Than most people are used to)
23:25.05CoaxDmarc_c: Fuck off
23:25.19CoaxDKatty: thats the unfortunate side effect of needing to use a real applicaton ;)
23:25.22CoaxDer application
23:25.44Kattyi use skype al the time
23:25.46CoaxDmarc_c: I dont even know what kind of business you run. How am I supposed to know how to come up with a magical formula that'll work for you?
23:25.48Kattyi get calls from skype out..
23:26.03Kattyi've just never set up asterisk before...let alone know what those digium cards do
23:26.05ariel_marc_c, I give you a suggestion. go on google and lookup isp line use this will give pretty good idea on what to count on.
23:26.13Kattyor anything about how a pbx in general works
23:26.18CoaxDariel: I already mentioned that.  He didn't care
23:26.26Kattynow i'm nearly almost brave enough to tackle it
23:26.26tzangerCoaxD: there's a difference between newbies and idiocy?
23:26.28tzangersay it ain't so!
23:26.34tzangerthat ruins my whole live-view
23:26.37tzangerer life-view
23:26.42xeet2marc_c: you haven't provided enough information to answer your question relatively correct
23:26.42CoaxDariel: (Neveryoumind, I actually OWN and OPERATE a dialup ISP.  But, I guess I don't know what i'm talking about!)
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23:26.51CoaxDkatty: Heh :)
23:27.02KattyCoaxD: pffft, you /obviously/ don't know what you're doing then ;>
23:27.11xeet2hehe
23:27.13CoaxDtzanger: Well, there's a difference between someone who actually listens to you, and a person who asks a question and doesnt listen
23:27.13tzangerCoaxD: you too?
23:27.17CoaxDKatty: Heh
23:27.20CoaxDtzanger: Yeah..
23:27.23CoaxDtzanger: Have since 1997
23:27.26tzangerI didn't own oe but I was the "resident smart guy" for one that's got about 15k customers now
23:27.31Kattyoh, dinner...hmm
23:27.44CoaxDtzanger: Oh hell, we aint even over 1000.. Its a small operation
23:27.52marc_ccoaxd-- just say you don't know.... it's ok
23:28.00CoaxDmarc_c: There is no answer for you
23:28.06CoaxDmarc_c: If there was an answer to give you, i'd know it.
23:28.29CoaxDmarc_c: There's no "Tried and True".  There's no "Formula".  You buy what you need so you don't get a busy signal.  How hard is that?
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23:28.43|Vulture|anyone know what I would search in the Wiki for load balancing between 2 * servers?
23:28.46tzangermarc_c: call patterns for ISPs are far different than businesses, and even those are different from biz to biz depending on industry
23:28.49|Vulture|on a local network
23:28.49CoaxDmarc_c: So you dont know what you need, and you have to get started.  order 3 extra trunks. voila.  Cancel 'em 2 months from now if they dont work
23:28.49Kattyhmm.
23:28.52CoaxDer if you got too many
23:28.56ariel_marc_c, there is no really way to get it. you have to figure many things into it. Time of day as users start using phones etc. Also you are going to have to read up on your location and there habbits.
23:28.56Kattycan asterisk automatically product a busy signal?
23:29.02tzanger|Vulture|: google for "load balance two asterisk servers" ?
23:29.03CoaxDKatty: Yes.
23:29.05ariel_Katty, yes
23:29.07Kattyhot
23:29.10CoaxDkatty: It is a PBX.
23:29.17CoaxDkatty: It can do every single thing a phone switch can do
23:29.26CoaxDkatty: Including route calls to voicemail, trunk, yadda
23:29.31xeet2except heat a building
23:29.34tzangerKatty: if it's hot you need to cool it better
23:29.37CoaxDxeet2: That is true, sir
23:29.49CoaxDxeet2: Unless you install it in one of those big heat-producing cases.  Yeah, i bet it could then
23:29.50tzangerxeet2: it can heat a building, just run on AMD
23:29.52xeet2maybe a room, but not a building
23:29.54Kattytzanger: :P
23:29.57CoaxDtzanger: *rotfl* :)
23:30.01tzangera cluster?  :-)
23:30.06CoaxDtzanger: Yeah! see, now there ya go!
23:30.09visik7hey what's wrong ? http://pastebin.ca/6379 ????????????????
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23:30.16tzangerjeez you guys just don't know how to apply it :-)
23:30.17Kattycan asterisk use mp3s for On Hold musc?
23:30.20Kattys/musc/music
23:30.24CoaxDkatty: Yes
23:30.25ariel_Katty, yes
23:30.32Kattyogg?
23:30.32CoaxDkatty: I suggestheading to voip-info.org and reading up
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23:30.39Nuggethaha ogg.
23:30.39tzangerKatty: many of these answers are available with a little reading
23:30.49Kattyi'm sure they are
23:31.05Kattyit's just so easy to ask sometimes, but i'll look at the url anyway (=
23:31.07xeet2sometimes it is
23:31.09xeet2lol
23:31.17CoaxDvisik7: I'd suspect kernel problem or hardware problem
23:31.37Kattysurely it's a nice change of pace compared to problems though
23:31.38CoaxDvisik: it died whilst running the kernel function to run system calls
23:31.50|Vulture|would a dual 2.8 xeon be able to support 100 SIP phones and 4 PRIs?
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23:31.58marc_ctrial and error.
23:32.04CoaxDhttp://pastebin.ca/6379
23:32.05CoaxDerr
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23:32.08ariel_|Vulture|, yes and no
23:32.09newshamhi
23:32.10hacimwhats the common opinon of which is better, the IAXY or the SPA ATA?
23:32.13xeet2vulture:  its not so much channel capacity, but codec choice.  What codecs?
23:32.22|Vulture|ariel_: 711
23:32.34CoaxDhacim: I'd rather use the SPA, but thats preference
23:32.37xeet2marc_c: get a clue
23:32.41tzangerKatty: that's an interesting tactic
23:32.43PBXtechhow do i listen in on a call for a dtmf call.. is that possible?
23:32.44visik7CoaxD what I have to do ?
23:32.46hacimCoaxD: how come? more features?
23:32.47|Vulture|ariel_: ulaw because they will not be going over the inet so no compression needed
23:32.51CoaxDhacim: IAXy is easier to get through a firewall
23:32.54CoaxDvisik: It has nothing to do with asterisk
23:32.55ariel_|Vulture|, it really depends on codec and meetme's moh
23:32.56xeet2vulture:  then absolutely
23:33.01CoaxDvisik: FIx your box
23:33.01newshamI'm somewhat ignorant about asterisk and voip products.  If one buys one of those linksys boxes that supports vonage, could they be used instead to talk through an asterisk pbx?  or point-to-point without a pbx?
23:33.04|Vulture|great
23:33.06ariel_|Vulture|, then yes
23:33.28tzangernewsham: the vonage boxes lock themseves to vonage
23:33.28visik7CoaxD it involve zaptel module or not ?
23:33.30CoaxDVulture: 100 phones x 64k is 6.4mbit/sec plus add framing and stuff.
23:33.34CoaxDvisik7: Nope
23:33.40CoaxDvisik7: Has nothing to do with zaptel
23:33.46CoaxDvisik: (That i can see from the call trace, anyway)
23:33.53tzangerwhere is this 64kbps number you're speaking of
23:33.54visik7ah ok
23:33.59tzangerulaw is 80kbps wire-speed
23:34.05visik7CoaxD it's a XEN domain
23:34.18tzangerCoaxD: you've got a xen domain running zap hardware?
23:34.18CoaxDtzanger: yeah. hence, the 'plus add framing and stuff'
23:34.20visik7CoaxD I post the error to their mailing list
23:34.25tzangerCoaxD: :-)
23:34.30newshamtzanger: are there similar consumer boxes (ie. stuff you'd buy at compusa) that dont?
23:34.30CoaxDvisik7: I have no idea man
23:34.45CoaxDvisik7: All i can tell you is that the call trace doesn't reference squat to do with zap
23:34.47tzangernewsham: I think so, I don't run them though
23:34.48visik7tzanger yes it's a xen domain running an hfc-s
23:34.58newshamalso in what way are they locked?  are they custom coded, or is it just a setting in an eprom or nvram?
23:35.02CoaxDvisik7: Howeve,r its possible that the zaptel module did indeed do something bad and scribbled all over the system
23:35.23hacimboy the voip options are confusing
23:35.29tzangernewsham: there's LOTS of info on unlocking PAP2s on the web
23:35.32xeet2newsham:  depends on the product and the provider, some have ip's hardcoded
23:35.34CoaxDhacim: They can be
23:35.39CoaxDhacim: but split it out, piece by pi9ece
23:35.40newshamtzanger: is there a good option for taking a normal handset and hooking it up to a custom box or a pc/laptop?
23:35.43CoaxDhacim: Then it becomes less confusing
23:35.47visik7tzanger why u ask if CoaxD got a xen domain running zap hardware?
23:35.52ariel_newsham, you can't use them on asterisk there locked for vonage use only.
23:35.53tzangernewsham: yes I'd think so, but again I don't run it
23:35.56CoaxDvisik7: He wanted to know if i was an idiot or not.
23:35.59tzangervisik7: because I want to do that
23:36.03newshamdanke.
23:36.06tzangerbut put it in a XenU not a Xen0
23:36.10hacimCoaxD: the problem is, if you know what you want to do, its not always so clear what the best way to do it is
23:36.26CoaxDhacim: I hear that a thousand times over, man.  You are SO correct
23:36.39CoaxDhacim: There are a billion ways to skin a cat. and most of those ways arent the RIGHT way
23:36.51CoaxDhacim: The RIGHT WAY, in this case, beign the type of cat you want to skin :)
23:36.53visik7CoaxD are you saying that I am an idiot ?
23:36.54newshamoh, another question...  is asterisk useful for ip-to-ip calls or is it primarily for connecting to ptsn?
23:37.00CoaxDvisik7: Do you speak english?
23:37.04xeet2and some people will tell you to count the minutes in a month to determine the best way to skin said cat
23:37.10visik7CoaxD more or less
23:37.11ariel_voip options are getting out of hands. You should see all the vendors offereing voip service at the show today..
23:37.13CoaxDvisik7: If you don't, i'll understand.  No, I did not call you an idiot
23:37.30CoaxDvisik7: I'm insinuating that tzanger was asking me due to the fact that I gave you a definitive answer, and he wasn't confident in it
23:37.32tzangerariel_: how is it
23:37.51CoaxDvisik7: He wanted to know if I was truely giving you the right answer
23:37.57ariel_newsham, asterisk is a pbx/voip server not a softphone and yes it can connect ip to ip.
23:37.57visik7ah
23:38.22hacimCoaxD: lets say you wanted to do cheap calls, do most people go the spa-1000 and voicepulse route?
23:38.25xeet2newsham:  asterisk can do anything, thats why its called *
23:38.41tzangerxeet2: haha
23:38.45ariel_tzanger, it was nice to see so many new vendors and lots of new toys. The new BT phone looks nice. But there still not shipping yet.
23:38.48CoaxDhacim: I would do asterisk, spa-1000, and voicepulse connect
23:38.57Kattyxeet2: can * make hot cocoa?
23:38.57CoaxDhacim: Only, i'd always buy an spa-2000
23:39.05tzangerariel_: yeah I'd like a nice BT phone
23:39.05CoaxDhacim: SPA-2000's are $60 on ebay + $10 shipping right now
23:39.06xeet2katty:  if you run it on an amd box
23:39.09hacimthere should be like a common scenario breakdown somewhere
23:39.12Katty:>>>
23:39.14hacimCoaxD: thats a pretty good price
23:39.16ariel_I like the flip screen
23:39.19CoaxDhacim: Indeed ti is
23:39.19tzangerI have a motorola BT headset but all the softphones suck
23:39.25CoaxDhacim: I'm thinking of buying one, myself
23:39.26tzangerKatty: yes it can
23:39.32tzangersee my comment about running it on AMD earlier
23:39.33CoaxDhacim: I have a Sipura 2000 and it works WONDERFULLY
23:39.35newshamok, lets say I want to set up a system where 5 people in disparate locations have a handset<->computer interface, and they should all be able to dial and connect to one another and have options like vmb.   would that be a single centralized asterisk?
23:39.39Kattyk'then
23:39.42visik7tzanger anyway I put the hfc into a domU and run * on it
23:39.43CoaxDhacim: I have not had even one ounce of trouble with it
23:39.46newshamwould they each need an asterisk or just a soft phone?
23:39.55tzangervisik7: how are you accessing a PCI device directly in a XenU?
23:39.55xeet2katty: fries too, just have to get a powerful enough case fan
23:40.03ariel_Ok folks see you later I have to make dinner and feed my baby. See you later.
23:40.04CoaxDhacim: Then again, I've heard great reviews of several ATAs
23:40.08tzangerlater air
23:40.09tzangerer ariel_
23:40.13CoaxDhacim: The IAXy is a great little box, albeit very overpriced
23:40.14visik7tzanger xen is able to do that
23:40.21hacimCoaxD: it seems like the SPA-2000 is the reference that all compare against
23:40.21newshamxen is nifty.
23:40.23CoaxDhacim: (I haven't tried it, but i've read great reviews on it)
23:40.24Kattybuh bye, ariel_ (=
23:40.27Kattythanks for info earlier!
23:40.30tzangervisik7: I must have an early version of Xen :-)
23:40.30CoaxDhacim: Yeah, becuase most people get SPA-2000
23:40.30visik7tzanger hide the device to dom0 and set the domU to get it
23:40.37CoaxDhacim: Its the most commonly available product
23:40.43tzangervisik7: what about CPU time?
23:40.47hacimCoaxD: the only reason why I consider the IAXy is because it cuts out the SIP, which seems unnecessary if I am going to use voicepulse connect
23:40.49CoaxDhacim: The thing is, you can have 2 fxs ports plugged into 2 separate phones, connected to 2 different sip clients
23:40.54tzangervisik7: can you say that the 'asterisk' domain gets CPU whenever it needs it?
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23:41.05tzangerhacim: iaxy has its own set of problems
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23:41.09CoaxDhacim: Oh. Yeah, so you wouldnt need to use asterisk at all
23:41.14CoaxDhacim: You could just hook up your VPC
23:41.15tzangertest it thoroughly before sending it across the sea :-)
23:41.16newshamtzanger: there are several schedulers that you can assign
23:41.17visik7tzanger u can limit the cpu of the domU running *
23:41.25hacimCoaxD: VPC?
23:41.27tzangervisik7: I don't want to limit it :-)
23:41.32CoaxDhacim: actually, i do think you need asterisk to use IAXy
23:41.35visik7ok so don't limit it
23:41.37CoaxDhacim: Please, though, don't quote me on that
23:41.52CoaxDhacim: VPC == Voice Pulse COnnect
23:42.01CoaxDhacim: (http://connect.voicepulse.com)
23:42.02hacimoh right, yeah I think you'd need asterisk
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23:42.11visik7tzanger anyway I use Xen 2.0.4
23:42.14CoaxDhacim: yeah because of the iaxy provisioning stuff
23:42.16tzangerI think I'm on 2.0.0
23:42.25visik7olso 2.0.0 can do that
23:42.27tzangeractually 2.0.0 has a problem with reducing memory footprint
23:42.28hacimCoaxD: however, isn't there a way to cut out the ATA altogether and just get an IAX phone?
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23:42.44CoaxDhacim: There are some in the works, but nothing concrete yet
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23:42.54CoaxDhacim: For instance, http://www.farfon.com
23:43.00tzangerCoaxD: when they ship
23:43.03CoaxDhacim; They're gonna manufacture on a small scale
23:43.11tzangerCoaxD: I'll have to try it later
23:43.12CoaxDhacim: but they aren't shipping production units yet
23:43.13hacimCoaxD: I guess you might loose some configurability that way?
23:43.15tzangerer not CoaxD, visik7
23:43.24tzangerxen rox muh sox
23:43.26GoshenAsterisk Management Portal - AMP doesn't have its own channel does it?
23:43.27visik7tzanger but I got that oops 2 hours ago and I'm not sure if Xen is ready for a production system
23:43.38tzangervisik7: well 2.0.0's running production
23:43.44xeet2bbl
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23:43.45CoaxDhacim: The thing is, i'd MUCH rather have an ATA
23:43.50CoaxDhacim: I do not want a phone I dont like
23:43.59eipianyone is workign with odbc?
23:44.01CoaxDhacim: With an ATA, i get to choose whichever phone i want. (Which might well be a CORDLESS phone)
23:44.08visik7tzanger dunno, I'm waiting for a reply by the xen team
23:44.24tzanger:-)
23:44.25tzangerwhat
23:44.26tzangerabout
23:44.30hacimCoaxD: very true
23:44.32CoaxDhacim: problem is, with a sip PHONE, you might get some buttons that have bells and whistles that you cant really duplicate on a regular phone
23:44.41CoaxDhacim: i.e. sip/iax/whatever
23:45.02hacimCoaxD: i just wish I had a really small phone (like cell phone size) that I could take with me, with my ATA
23:45.10visik7what about what ?
23:45.17CoaxDhacim: Hmm. they do make phones like that
23:45.22CoaxDhacim: Cordless, of course
23:45.30hacimCoaxD: really? hmm I haven't found one yet
23:45.35CoaxDhacim: I saw a few at walmart
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23:45.40CoaxDhacim: That was a long while ago, tho
23:45.45hacimCoaxD: its kinda lame to carry around an ATA and a giant pushbutton phone
23:45.51CoaxDhacim: Yes indeed
23:46.13CoaxDhacim; There's nothing out there that'll do EXACTLY what you want, but i'm sure yoiu can find a small-footprint cordless phone
23:46.18CoaxDhacim: Trouble is, the bases arent that small yet
23:46.29tzangerCoaxD: just need to look around
23:46.52hacimCoaxD: yeah, thats the thing, you get a cordless and you are then carrying around an ATA + cordless base + cordless phone
23:47.13CoaxDhacim: The thing is, man, an ATA isnt really meant for carrying around from location to location
23:47.15hacimCoaxD: when I go somewhere, I want to travel with my voip action, but I dont want to unload a suitcase of equipment
23:47.17visik7it's late I have to get up in 5 hours
23:47.19CoaxDhacim: I mean it *CAN* be used for that
23:47.24visik7bye
23:47.32CoaxDhacim: Not that you're whacky for wanting to use it for that or anything
23:47.40tzangerI want to get headset bluetooth support for linux working
23:47.40hacimCoaxD: what would you do if you wanted to do that?
23:47.44CoaxDhacim: Just need small footprint phone gear to make it practical,
23:47.44CoaxDetc
23:47.48tzangerthen I could use iaxcomm with linux and the bt101
23:47.53CoaxDhacim: I'd bitch about the same damn things you are ;)
23:48.01CoaxDhacim: You know, you might want to check out the wireless phone by pulver
23:48.05CoaxDhacim: Its 802.11b
23:48.06tzangerNO YOU DON"T
23:48.08tzangerit sucks ass
23:48.11hacimhaha
23:48.26hacimtzanger: what would you recommend for travelling voip?
23:48.29tzangergets hot, poor battery life, shitty display
23:48.33hacimATA + phone?
23:48.33CoaxDtzanger: Lame
23:48.36CoaxDtzanger: :(
23:48.42tzangerCoaxD: yeah, I was really disappointed
23:48.46tzangerhacim: I don't know
23:48.48hacimthats good to know
23:48.52CoaxDhacim: a better product needs to be made for roaming voip, for sure
23:48.55CoaxDcuz one doesnt really exist
23:48.58tzangerI'd probably use my bt headset if I could get it working well in linux
23:49.09tzangerfirefly and windows is alright but the windows bt stack seems more unstable than linux's
23:49.14CoaxDhacim: Perhaps a softphone, given that you almost always will need a computer too?
23:49.18hacimCoaxD: I dont really need wireless voip, I just need to head to san francisco and get to my friend's place, and plug into his network and have my phone
23:49.29CoaxDhacim: I hear that
23:49.41CoaxDhacim: It is also possibel to forward calls to your cel with a voicepulse account
23:49.46CoaxDer possible
23:49.49hacimtzanger: thats my problem, there is no good iax client in linux
23:49.54Katty'voicepulse'?
23:49.54CoaxDhacim: You pay double, but its worth it sometimes
23:50.03tzangerhacim: iaxcomm is alright
23:50.06CoaxDkatty: Voicepulse is a voice over IP to regular telephone network gateway
23:50.12tzangerand it is written by the guy who put the new jitter buffer in *
23:50.29jsolareswhat is the difference between loop start, ground start, and kewl start
23:50.37CoaxDkatty: it allows you to make phone calls over the pstn (the regular telephone network)
23:50.40KattyCoaxD: err, would that be the red modules?
23:50.46CoaxDkatty: haha. no.
23:50.49Kattyk'then
23:50.53Kattydon't try explaining it to me
23:50.53hacimits the blue pill
23:50.53CoaxDkatty: HOw old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
23:51.00Kattyi've had all the input i can handle for one day :)
23:51.04JerJeri'm 12
23:51.04Kattyi'm twenty
23:51.13tzangerjerjer don't like
23:51.15CoaxDKatty: Cool. :)  Are you a windows geek, or?
23:51.19tzangeryou're 8 and that's being generous
23:51.29CoaxDJerJer: Shush yer damn mouth. she's a 20 year old chick. If you shut your mouth enough, you might actually get to see one naked someday.
23:51.35JerJeroh yeah that's right 8 year old body 12 year old winky
23:51.37KattyCoaxD: that's what i learned on, yes. slowly been converting to linux for the sake of screening irssi
23:51.39CoaxDjerjer: (i.e. instead of scaring them away.)
23:51.41tzangerCoaxD: ... wtf
23:51.41hacimhrm, well I think it might be voicepulse+ata2000+home asterisk box for me
23:51.51tzangerirssi works wonders
23:51.53JerJerCoaxD:  I have a live human girlfriend
23:51.59KattyCoaxD: and discovering some wonderful things on the way :}
23:52.00hacimmmm, irssi
23:52.01CoaxDJerjer: hehe cool :)
23:52.08CoaxDKatty: Awesome!
23:52.11JerJerto which kram facilitated meeting
23:52.16tzangerirssi was the reason for the rise of the roman empire
23:52.22hacimCoaxD: does voicepulse end up being cheaper than just doing somethng like broadvocie?
23:52.38CoaxDhacim: I'd rather use NuFone, if it were me
23:52.40hacimtzanger: irssi+bitlbee
23:52.42CoaxDhacim: cheaper rates
23:52.45tzangerhacim: haven't tried bitlbee yet
23:52.48tzangerI use Psi for my IM
23:52.49CoaxDhacim: http://www.nufone.net
23:52.57CoaxDJerJer, i'll expect my check next week
23:53.07JerJeryeah its already in the mail
23:53.10CoaxDJerJer: Sweet
23:53.24hacimCoaxD: hmm, a minute ago you were suggesting voicepulse, now nufone?
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23:53.30CoaxDhacim: No, i didnt suggest voicepulse
23:53.37CoaxDhacim: You brought it up, and so i assumed that it was what you were using
23:53.38tzangerI use nufone almost exclusively
23:53.41CoaxDhacim: I would never suggest voicepulse
23:53.46hacimCoaxD: ah! ok :)
23:53.51CoaxDhacim: Too many problems
23:53.57CoaxDhacim: They might've fixed some of those, but..
23:54.01hacimCoaxD: I had no idea, I just assumed people used voicepulse
23:54.09CoaxDhacim: I have.  They're not a bad telco at all
23:54.11hacimtzanger: nufone pretty decent?
23:54.14CoaxDhacim: I just prefer nufone. Better service.
23:54.21CoaxDhacim: I actually get to talk to the owner once in a while
23:54.27CoaxDhacim: Although he's a total jackass at times
23:54.32tzangerhacim: its *excellent*... it si *NOT* for newbies though
23:54.32CoaxDJerJer: :)
23:54.42JerJerjust don't expect NuFone to call you back or answer email
23:54.45tzangerI am the unofficial (and unpaid) nufone frontline support :-)
23:54.53hacimhahah
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23:54.58CoaxDhacim: (Just FYI, JerJer owns NuFone :)
23:55.03jsolarestzanger, go make them gimme my DID
23:55.03hacimok, I'm revising... spa-2000+nufone
23:55.06jsolares:)
23:55.11tzangerjsolares: sorry I don't do incoming
23:55.14tzangeronly termination help :-)
23:55.23jsolareshow convenient :p
23:55.23tzangerjsolares: got a ticket #?
23:55.23hacimjerjer the 12 yer old star warez character owns nufone?
23:55.33jsolaresnot yet
23:55.37tzangerhacim: no that's jarjar
23:55.44tzangerjsolares: if you haven't got a ticket# yo uhaven't got a gripe
23:55.47hacimoh, jarjar and juarez
23:55.55jsolaresi'm too lazy, and it's only an added bonus
23:56.03jsolareswhen i do need it, i'll get the ticket
23:56.10tzangersupport@nufone.net
23:56.23hacimwhere does nufone have dids?
23:56.27jsolaresmichigan
23:56.31hacimonly?
23:56.33tzangeremail them and say "jerjer's a dirty whore, he took my money and won't give me my did"
23:56.44jsolareshacim: as far as i know, yes
23:56.51denonhey, doan' be mockin jerjer
23:56.54hacimhrm, thats not very convenient
23:56.54jsolareslol tzanger
23:57.03jsolaresget an 1800 did
23:57.14tzangerjsolares: you'll get a ticket# and if you don't get a live human response in 24h after getting the ticket, come in here and Jerjer will personally smack his support team
23:57.24tzangerI'm still waiting for the webcam so I can see that in realtime
23:57.24jsolaresohhh neat
23:57.25hacimjsolares: whats incoming cost on a 800 DID?
23:57.32denonno charge, just minutes
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23:57.37jsolareshacim: i think 0.02$ per minute
23:57.52hacimnufone planning on getting other DIDs?
23:58.20eipianyone is working with odbc?
23:58.57hacimjsolares: yeah but having an 800 DID means you get charged incoming minutes, which you dont if you have a local DID, right?
23:59.05jsolaresright
23:59.18hacimwhich means, its more expensive unless you are in michigan
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23:59.24jsolaresbut it's an 1800 man
23:59.24tzangerbbl, bathing th ekids
23:59.40tzangerhacim: depends
23:59.42jsolaresi'm -> ' ' <- that close to getting an 1800 DID
23:59.46tzangerthe DIDs I lease are per-minute
23:59.53tzangertake as many concurrent calls as you want

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