| 00:00.30 | Pkunk | ... |
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| 00:13.04 | user1fn | can asterisk work on a machine with no sound card? |
| 00:13.11 | Darwin35 | yes |
| 00:13.13 | techexpress | yes it can |
| 00:13.20 | user1fn | anything special needed? |
| 00:13.25 | techexpress | no |
| 00:13.37 | user1fn | ok... just checking |
| 00:13.46 | Darwin35 | just put noload => alsa and oss channels in the modules.conf |
| 00:14.49 | Darwin35 | or just uncomment them |
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| 00:15.17 | user1fn | cool... thanks |
| 00:15.40 | user1fn | so has anybody heard of any great strides in getting faxing to work more consitently with *? |
| 00:16.09 | techexpress | can sombody know about ulaw codec making my outgoing call to telco make a twitchy noise |
| 00:16.29 | techexpress | internal calls is ok |
| 00:21.35 | iceyp | anyone know how to implement cheapest based routing? |
| 00:21.46 | file | it's called least cost routing |
| 00:21.59 | file | and yes, I know how to do it |
| 00:22.11 | iceyp | yeah, do you know where I can find some documentation? |
| 00:22.29 | file | about what specifically? you have to find a least cost routing module for asterisk, or write your own |
| 00:22.35 | file | and then read it's documentation... |
| 00:22.44 | iceyp | which one do you use? |
| 00:22.50 | file | custom. |
| 00:23.02 | iceyp | ok. |
| 00:24.34 | iceyp | is voip-info down? |
| 00:24.50 | iceyp | every page i click on from google for voip-info not showing :/ |
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| 00:25.26 | Silik0n | try the google cache then seeings its prolly down with the problems its been having lately |
| 00:25.49 | iceyp | damn no cache |
| 00:31.41 | techexpress | is there a howto for asterisk? |
| 00:31.54 | inticonnet | hehehehe |
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| 00:33.43 | tessier | Whut up bitches |
| 00:33.53 | Darwin35 | not much my hoe |
| 00:34.22 | Darwin35 | voip-info.org |
| 00:34.42 | techexpress | ok thanks ;-) |
| 00:34.51 | Darwin35 | its called the wiki pages |
| 00:34.57 | Silik0n | only problem with that darwin is it aint working tonight |
| 00:35.06 | Darwin35 | wow ok |
| 00:35.09 | Chuji | ~docs |
| 00:35.11 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 00:35.11 | Silik0n | damned things down again |
| 00:35.22 | Chuji | read the asterdocs |
| 00:35.45 | myconid | I wish broadvoice would let me set my own passwd |
| 00:39.03 | dsmouse | myconid: why? what did they choose? |
| 00:39.28 | *** join/#asterisk Hmm-work (matt@24-119-151-19.cpe.cableone.net) |
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| 00:40.36 | doughecka | hmm, long birthday too |
| 00:40.53 | Hmm-work | it's my birthday tomorrow |
| 00:40.55 | doughecka | 18 |
| 00:41.12 | Hmm-work | congrats on cigarettes and porn |
| 00:41.16 | doughecka | right |
| 00:41.29 | Hmm-work | if you're in the US |
| 00:41.37 | doughecka | indeed :) |
| 00:42.29 | Hmm-work | slow in here tonight |
| 00:42.49 | Hmm-work | I was hoping to find someone to pay me ungodly amounts of money for advice |
| 00:43.03 | doughecka | hm |
| 00:43.09 | doughecka | I would advice not to do that |
| 00:43.28 | Mavvie | asterisk console should have the option of beeping when there are no more calls active. |
| 00:43.38 | Hmm-work | lol |
| 00:44.02 | doughecka | just restart gracefully :P |
| 00:44.15 | Hmm-work | yate looks interesting |
| 00:44.30 | Mavvie | doughecka: I've done that once, it segfaulted the moment I pressed return. |
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| 00:44.38 | Mavvie | never been able to reproduce it. |
| 00:45.08 | doughecka | hahah |
| 00:45.11 | doughecka | me too |
| 00:46.15 | trelane | anyone here using broadvoice with asterisk? I've been attempting to follow voip-info.org's setup instructions without luck. |
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| 00:46.27 | syslod | Hello. |
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| 00:48.00 | Nukemizer | Can anyone point me in the direction that will help me test why I can get my TE110P to work in e&M mode but not PRI ? |
| 00:48.20 | SirPrize | Hi folks. Quick question: Can I, from the *Nix command line, cause Asterisk to initiate a call and start executing a certain dialplan sequence ? |
| 00:48.23 | syslod | Nukemizer: What probs u having with PRI? |
| 00:48.45 | syslod | SirPrize: Use callfile |
| 00:48.45 | SirPrize | Specifically, I'd like to cause Asterisk to call me, when it is triggered by an e-mail, and then that I'd get an IVR |
| 00:48.47 | Nukemizer | sync errors up the wazzo |
| 00:49.01 | SirPrize | syslod: Brilliant, thanks. I'll take a look at that |
| 00:49.04 | Hmm-work | SirPrize: that is a serious pain in the ass |
| 00:49.05 | Nukemizer | i would only be enableing 1-8 b channels |
| 00:49.06 | syslod | check you span line and see if your timing setup is ok. |
| 00:49.22 | Hmm-work | I wrote some scripts to do it based on form input though |
| 00:49.23 | syslod | No its easy just generate a callfile. |
| 00:49.31 | SirPrize | Hmm-work: how so? Btw - SIP incoming DTMF works via different provider now |
| 00:49.42 | Hmm-work | good deal |
| 00:49.56 | Nukemizer | I should back up.. I am attempting to get the PBX to talk to * via PRI not actually using * PRI to connect to telco |
| 00:50.06 | Hmm-work | callfiles are easy to use yes.... triggering one based upon receiving an email is a different story |
| 00:50.30 | syslod | Hmm_work: umm postfix will do that easy. |
| 00:50.40 | Hmm-work | oh really? |
| 00:50.45 | Mavvie | SirPrize: http://megaglobal.net/docs/asterisk/html/nagiosasterisk.html |
| 00:50.50 | Hmm-work | time to google |
| 00:51.09 | SirPrize | I'm thinking of using either Procmail or QMail - as long as there's some way that I can trigger Asterisk from a script, I think I shold be able to do something |
| 00:51.15 | SirPrize | cheers, thanks for that Mavvie |
| 00:51.22 | syslod | Both of those will also do it. |
| 00:51.49 | Hmm-work | I use an agi script to trigger a callback event |
| 00:52.31 | syslod | Anyone else a telco? |
| 00:52.59 | Hmm-work | 9 minutes until the simpsons is on... woot! |
| 00:53.07 | tzanger | heh |
| 00:53.18 | tzanger | syslod: werd |
| 00:53.21 | dsmouse | Hmm-work: are you streeming it via asterisk? |
| 00:53.28 | syslod | tzanger: Huh? |
| 00:53.32 | Hmm-work | what? |
| 00:53.36 | user1fn | in case you guys were interested... the unresolved symbols were a symptom of the sarge kernel and the config file that came with it (they didn't match) |
| 00:53.40 | Hmm-work | no, lol |
| 00:54.05 | user1fn | thanks for all of the help, though! |
| 00:54.28 | Hmm-work | yet another reason to compile your own kernel with the same gcc version you use to compile asterisk |
| 00:56.32 | SirPrize | Mavvie: I see the page you suggested makes use of a mkqcall.pl file. That isn't present in my asterisk source/install, and a quick google doesn't bring up anything on it either. Might you know anything about that file ? |
| 00:57.07 | Mavvie | SirPrize: euhm. no. it was the closest thing I could give you to something useful. |
| 00:57.48 | SirPrize | Mavvie: that's ok. Good starting point though |
| 00:58.29 | iceyp | is this the easyest way of doing LCR... |
| 00:58.30 | iceyp | exten => _X.,3,Dial(IAX2/user:pass@localprovider.co.nz/${EXTEN},60,t) |
| 00:58.30 | iceyp | exten => _X.,4,Dial(IAX2/user:pass@secondprovider.co.nz/${EXTEN},60,t) |
| 00:58.40 | iceyp | so if option 1 failts it will go to option 2 |
| 00:58.52 | Nukemizer | syslod: since I ask about using less than 23 bchannels to see if that might be a sync problem.. I get red and yellow alarms every 30 seconds or so when PRI is connected |
| 00:59.23 | Nukemizer | in between span resets i might be able to place a call so I know I am close |
| 01:00.12 | tzanger | means hello, long time, how are things. :-) |
| 01:00.34 | tzanger | Nukemizer: if your PRI is going up and down like a bridge's nightie you have other issues |
| 01:00.42 | tzanger | question is -- do you have trouble with a loopback plug? |
| 01:00.49 | tzanger | does your provider see issues when you loop back the smartjack? |
| 01:01.11 | Nukemizer | tanger: yes same trouble with loopback plug |
| 01:01.11 | tzanger | have you compiled zttool and noted any irregularities there? |
| 01:01.21 | tzanger | Nukemizer: problem is on your end then for sure |
| 01:01.25 | tzanger | sharing interrupts? |
| 01:01.38 | tzanger | is * running on a renderfarm node? |
| 01:01.53 | Nukemizer | but when i make that same card become a regular e&M wink circuit it works fine |
| 01:02.03 | Nukemizer | that is what I do not understand |
| 01:02.14 | syslod | Nukemizer: Pastebin your zap files. |
| 01:02.17 | tzanger | "works fine" as in you have clear audio? |
| 01:02.28 | tzanger | you may just not be SEEING the issues |
| 01:02.32 | Hmm-work | LOL |
| 01:02.36 | Nukemizer | yes , clear audio --- 30 minute call with no drops |
| 01:02.45 | tzanger | hmm |
| 01:02.45 | Nukemizer | very ture |
| 01:02.50 | tzanger | got a shitty version of libpri? |
| 01:02.52 | Nukemizer | one sec pasting |
| 01:02.54 | syslod | K |
| 01:03.02 | syslod | Also what PBX are u connected to? |
| 01:03.05 | tzanger | or compiled asterisk with an alternative libpri version than you're actually running? |
| 01:03.24 | Hmm-work | is there any other sip testing tool besides sips? |
| 01:03.44 | Nukemizer | i am trying to connect to a Toshiba PBX |
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| 01:04.12 | syslod | Who is providing timing? |
| 01:04.35 | Nukemizer | the * should be providing timming |
| 01:04.38 | Nukemizer | to the PBX |
| 01:04.47 | syslod | Why frac PRI? |
| 01:04.56 | tzanger | Nukemizer: so you have span=1,0,0,b8zs,esf kind of thing? |
| 01:05.08 | tzanger | I doubt it's that though |
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| 01:05.36 | tzanger | if E&M works and PRI don't yo ueither have an invalid/incompatible switchtype or your PBX isn't actually sending what it's saying it is |
| 01:05.59 | Nukemizer | cant find my pastebin link to paste to |
| 01:06.08 | tzanger | pastebin.ca |
| 01:07.34 | Nukemizer | http://pastebin.ca/6214 |
| 01:07.51 | planet_guru | voip-info appears to be dead.. are there any mirrors around? |
| 01:08.21 | Nukemizer | the span is currently in e&m mode however |
| 01:08.29 | SirPrize | Wheeeeee!! I just got callback working! :-) |
| 01:08.31 | tzanger | Nukemizer: well first off you're not providing sync, you're syncing to the PBX |
| 01:08.48 | tzanger | sync of '1' means whatever's on the other end of this span is my clock sync src |
| 01:08.53 | Nukemizer | frc t1 because PBX does not have enough license to work with all 24 currently |
| 01:08.57 | tzanger | er rather my primary clock sync src |
| 01:09.13 | Nukemizer | so for me Dchannel=24 and b channels are 1-8 |
| 01:09.30 | tzanger | interesting |
| 01:09.38 | tzanger | are you sure its 1-8 and 24? not 1-8 and 9? |
| 01:09.46 | tzanger | I have no idea how a frac t1 works with the toshiba pbx |
| 01:09.52 | tzanger | does the dhcan come up? |
| 01:10.00 | Nukemizer | that may just be my problem then , perhps I ned to have all 24 enabled ? 23+1 |
| 01:10.16 | tzanger | you can always tell * to only use 1-8 for calls |
| 01:10.17 | Nukemizer | yes but the D does keep being reset |
| 01:10.27 | tzanger | what's pri debug span 1 say |
| 01:10.37 | Nukemizer | or i will get a message that "assuming D channel is 24" |
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| 01:11.47 | Nukemizer | the Tosh can be partitioned just like the * but the Tosh is very particular as to what switch it likes to talk to on the PRI |
| 01:12.45 | Nukemizer | debug just goes nutz, currently not pri so i cn not get deug, but like you said with a loop back plug in, i should get no errors |
| 01:13.20 | Nukemizer | the only error i get with loop backl in, is that "we think we are primary and they think they are" over and over.. |
| 01:13.39 | tzanger | Nukemizer: well you might want to play with the channel settings |
| 01:14.27 | Nukemizer | i have tried moving D channel to 9 and other locations - rebooted dozens of times and moved slots in the box even tried 3 seperate boxes |
| 01:14.55 | tzanger | stop that |
| 01:15.08 | tzanger | it works in E&M, it's not hardware |
| 01:15.18 | Nukemizer | Had digium send me a new card this weekend but no luck, so i finally gave up on PRI and tried e&M.. and then I got some desperatly needed success :) |
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| 01:15.23 | tzanger | this is a software problem |
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| 01:15.42 | syslod | What toshiba u have? |
| 01:15.49 | Nukemizer | CTX |
| 01:15.52 | Pkunk | is it possible to increase the gain/volume on only a particular SIP channel ? |
| 01:16.03 | syslod | CTX should support NI so I doubt it incompatiable. |
| 01:16.17 | tzanger | Pkunk: not that I'm aware of |
| 01:16.35 | Nukemizer | I think i have been trying to get NI2 to work. perhaps that is my problem |
| 01:17.28 | Nukemizer | I sure to appriciate both of your imput as I just never seem to see an end to my problem and this helps |
| 01:17.34 | syslod | NI2 will work |
| 01:17.54 | syslod | Have you fixed timing as tzanger suggested? |
| 01:18.31 | syslod | Also what does zttool actually say when connected? |
| 01:19.06 | Nukemizer | it appears I have no zttol .. looking for now |
| 01:20.46 | Nukemizer | not sure what timming i would change .. do you mean the setting on the span ? span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs ? |
| 01:21.27 | tzanger | Nukemizer: you need libnewt to compile it |
| 01:21.41 | tzanger | span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs ==> span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs |
| 01:21.44 | tzanger | and rerun ztcfg |
| 01:22.44 | *** part/#asterisk SirPrize (~blah@83.146.62.181) |
| 01:22.47 | Nukemizer | tzanger: yes I have tried both of those and even rebooted and powered off to make sure card was not locked for somereason |
| 01:23.05 | tzanger | the correct is the latter, with timing set to '0' |
| 01:24.55 | shido6 | back |
| 01:25.29 | Nukemizer | currently i have timming to span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs with e&m config and PBX being the slave. which is my guess that the PRI should be the same way |
| 01:25.48 | tzanger | no |
| 01:25.54 | Nukemizer | i will need to remove the standard T1 card and install the pri and reconfigure the lines though before i change * |
| 01:25.56 | tzanger | timing=1 means the zaptel is gonna be a slave |
| 01:26.11 | tzanger | timing=0 means I am not trying to sync ot this span, I am considered the master clock |
| 01:26.28 | tzanger | it'll likely work but you'll get little buzzes now and again as the frames slip |
| 01:26.32 | Nukemizer | then i read that wrong the first time.. |
| 01:27.31 | Pkunk | what are the CPU requirements of g.729 ? |
| 01:27.52 | Pkunk | like on a celeron 850 mhz , how many lines can it support ? |
| 01:27.58 | tzanger | timing is a number... 0 = do not try and sync (i.e. be the master) 1 = the other side is my primary src. 2 = the other side is my secondary sync src (if the 1st is down), 3 = other side is my tertiary sync (if first dow are down), tec. |
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| 01:29.18 | Nukemizer | tzanger: thanks, have written down |
| 01:29.21 | Pkunk | i tried the Intel codec , and while the quality was acceptable the volume was low . Is this going to be a problem with digium's codec too ? |
| 01:32.31 | Pkunk | sigh |
| 01:32.43 | Nukemizer | tzanger: syslod: thank you both i have testing to do now.. renewed hope ! |
| 01:33.38 | *** join/#asterisk mrproper_ (~psynode@61.95.55.242) |
| 01:33.53 | mrproper_ | hi all does anyone know if you can download the knopsterisk iso anywhere? |
| 01:34.36 | trelane | anyone here using broadvoice with asterisk? I've been attempting to follow voip-info.org's setup instructions without luck. |
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| 01:36.03 | Pkunk | trelane: you need to register |
| 01:36.12 | Pkunk | trelane: only then it will work |
| 01:36.42 | trelane | right the problem is when I have the registration sytax to what I think is correct, asterisk never attempts to register |
| 01:37.54 | trelane | Pkunk, register phonenumber:password@sip.broadvoice.com |
| 01:37.55 | planet_guru | Guys, I'm using the 'read' command in my dialplan.. I just want to read in a 4 digit number. I'm using exten => s,3,Read(PSFILE,4) but the application dies with Invalid extension '1'.. when '1001' is entered. What's the obvious mistake here please? |
| 01:38.19 | Pkunk | trelane: thats wrong |
| 01:38.37 | Pkunk | read the asterisk docs on broadvoice support |
| 01:38.51 | trelane | asterisk docs or voip-info docs? |
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| 01:39.01 | qwerp | harlo.. |
| 01:40.19 | qwerp | is there anyway i can pick up an transfered call? |
| 01:41.24 | Nukemizer | tzanger: last question - zttool can that only be compiled with a PRI card working ? is that tool only for troubleshooting PRI ? |
| 01:41.38 | tzanger | no |
| 01:41.41 | tzanger | zttool is a zaptel tool |
| 01:41.48 | tzanger | just shows you goodstuff about your zaptel interfaces |
| 01:42.16 | tzanger | missed interrupts, RBS signaling |
| 01:42.18 | tzanger | that kind of stuff |
| 01:43.01 | tzanger | useless for PRI except to show missed interrupts and stuff |
| 01:43.02 | Nukemizer | ok.. just wont compile so that might mean there are more problems |
| 01:43.30 | tzanger | no |
| 01:43.38 | tzanger | just means you don't have libnewt |
| 01:44.02 | Nukemizer | or perhaps it is not new enough |
| 01:44.03 | tzanger | which is normal |
| 01:44.04 | tzanger | heh |
| 01:44.05 | tzanger | no |
| 01:44.13 | Nukemizer | just installed off distro disk .. checking.. thank you |
| 01:50.54 | qwerp | is there anyway i can pick up an transfered call? |
| 01:52.13 | planet_guru | Can somebody please tell me how I use the Read command if the only arguments I want to specify are the 'variable' and the 'maxdigits' in this prototype: Read(variable[|filename][|maxdigits][|option]).. I'm currently trying it with exten => s,1,Read(USER,4) but that breaks |
| 01:52.23 | inticonnet | Im finally getting somewhere thanks to harryvv - except when I call my voicemal extension CLI states "Unable to find/create chanel" |
| 01:52.27 | inticonnet | any thoughts? |
| 01:54.44 | iceyp | Pkunk broadvoice any good? |
| 01:54.54 | Pkunk | rawking |
| 01:55.08 | iceyp | and u can signup from anywhere in the world? |
| 01:55.44 | planet_guru | surely I don't have tp create a minature silent gsm to stick in as a second argument to Read?? There must be a simple solution to this? |
| 01:55.54 | planet_guru | s/tp/to/ |
| 01:59.02 | Pkunk | iceyp: well i signed up frm Asia . but you need g.729 for doing anything useful |
| 02:00.01 | iceyp | mmm, true, cant use gsm or ilbc? |
| 02:00.06 | iceyp | thats what my budgetone does |
| 02:00.27 | iceyp | did you have to purchase any gear? |
| 02:01.16 | iceyp | is the quality real bad, or you dont have enough bandwidth to do any better? |
| 02:01.27 | Pkunk | i have bandwidth for ulaw |
| 02:01.38 | Pkunk | but its too expensive in the long run |
| 02:01.46 | iceyp | but they do support it? |
| 02:01.52 | Pkunk | probly cheaper to buy livences |
| 02:02.00 | Pkunk | yeah ulaw works great |
| 02:02.14 | iceyp | they support gsm or ilbc? |
| 02:02.39 | Pkunk | what could be the problem .. if when i press dtmf's very fast on a Zap line i suddenyl get hanged up ? |
| 02:02.51 | Pkunk | iceyp: no |
| 02:03.05 | iceyp | damn, so only 729 and ulaw? |
| 02:03.28 | inticonnet | ok i sort of fixed it but i still cant call voicemail from extension 2001 yet there is an entry for it in voicemail.conf. CLI says "unable to find/create chanel" |
| 02:03.35 | inticonnet | helpsies? :) |
| 02:04.10 | Pkunk | doesn't d/c when i up busycount .. but then it doesn't ever disconnect the phone too |
| 02:04.26 | inticonnet | mm actually i cant save changes to voicemail.conf so there is no entry and i cant change the exisiting one :S |
| 02:05.25 | iceyp | whats ur username pkunk? i'll say your refered me |
| 02:05.30 | iceyp | referred* |
| 02:07.31 | *** join/#asterisk shmaltz (~chatzilla@69.28.255.210) |
| 02:07.46 | shmaltz | anybody remember the tMobile hack a few weeks ago? |
| 02:07.59 | shmaltz | well look at this: |
| 02:08.00 | shmaltz | http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3ph.htm |
| 02:08.37 | Pkunk | @#$@# .. i get disconnected while typing dtmf's |
| 02:10.05 | *** join/#asterisk md99 (~root@port-222-152-49-44.fastadsl.net.nz) |
| 02:10.30 | md99 | Hi. |
| 02:10.47 | Pkunk | wasn't happening with the 1 year old CVS i had installed before |
| 02:12.58 | md99 | Does anyone know of anyone who has NOT had echo problems with AVM Fritz PCI Passive ISDN Cards? |
| 02:14.15 | *** join/#asterisk harryvv (~comming@S010600055d210201.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 02:14.32 | Moc | what up tonight ? |
| 02:15.24 | Moc | md99, to my knowleage, if you get echo from a ISDN call, it not a card issue, it your provider that has the echo from a analog source |
| 02:16.21 | harryvv | Moc what type of termination points into small pbx boxes use ? isdn or other |
| 02:16.59 | Moc | harryvv, in Euro, I guess they use ISDN, in Canada/US, small pbx use standards Analog line |
| 02:17.01 | Moc | or PRI |
| 02:17.10 | harryvv | okay |
| 02:17.18 | Moc | BRI for voice is rare in the Canada/US |
| 02:17.24 | harryvv | yea, talking to a guy in Australia and ISDN is common there |
| 02:17.32 | Moc | yep |
| 02:17.54 | Moc | ISDN was supose to replace those Analog line we have... sadly the US/Can didnt follow |
| 02:18.42 | harryvv | Without subscribing to a PRI can I setup some kind of system to simular pri out of a PC or something for testing reasons? |
| 02:18.54 | harryvv | need cards or equipment of course. |
| 02:19.28 | Moc | well VoIP is a cheap way of doing stuff similar to PRI |
| 02:19.34 | harryvv | true |
| 02:19.53 | Moc | I get DID from a local provider |
| 02:20.48 | harryvv | but then again that depends on a VOIP provider :) I have iax.cc and dont have one but use it for outgoing calls. But will for another costomer that gets alot of calls from canada into washington state. There only line is so bussy. |
| 02:21.41 | Moc | harryvv, btw you can simulate a PRI within * I think |
| 02:22.24 | Moc | you dont need PRI hardware... I never tryed it, but maybe there is info on the wiki |
| 02:25.25 | md99 | thanks moc, my echo problem only occurs from a local sip phone via isdn bri to an analog number. (to a gsm number works perfectly) |
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| 02:27.07 | inticonnet | Man oh man. Im so proud - After the amount of swearing I subjected you guys too last night opposed to today. I know have a functioning internal * box. Now to connect FWD Mwahahahaha |
| 02:27.17 | inticonnet | *now |
| 02:27.49 | Moc | good ;) |
| 02:28.29 | JerJer | good now go get me a cup of coffee |
| 02:28.51 | Moc | hey JerJer how it going ? |
| 02:28.59 | JerJer | snowed in |
| 02:29.19 | JerJer | we are under a Winter snow warning |
| 02:29.36 | Moc | that cool |
| 02:29.41 | JerJer | and the county has closed all roads to non-essential travel |
| 02:29.52 | Moc | very cool.. |
| 02:29.57 | JerJer | yet all the wireless links are still rock solid |
| 02:29.59 | Moc | that mean work from home day! |
| 02:30.10 | Moc | hehe |
| 02:30.20 | Moc | snow doesnt affect wireless link that much |
| 02:30.28 | Moc | rain affect it more from my experience |
| 02:30.53 | tzanger | it's all moisture |
| 02:31.04 | tzanger | we've got a good snowstorm here |
| 02:31.05 | tzanger | blah |
| 02:31.12 | tzanger | it's the 2nd half of february |
| 02:31.34 | Moc | didnt had that much snow over here |
| 02:31.48 | Moc | I should move south to get more snow these day |
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| 02:34.59 | docelm0 | Anyone know anything about the Cisco 7912G phones configured with NAT? How is this accomplished? I have looked at the wiki and got nowhere |
| 02:35.38 | docelm0 | can they be configured with STUN? |
| 02:36.00 | JerJer | stun is not the answer |
| 02:36.08 | JerJer | TFTP |
| 02:36.10 | JerJer | all you need |
| 02:37.34 | docelm0 | ok TFTP is fine however what do I need to do? The calls coming into the phone work but calls out to the * box dont work. I am suspecting its sending the private IP in the SIP setup messages |
| 02:38.01 | docelm0 | with the STUN I was getting along the lines of Nat Transversal |
| 02:38.21 | inticonnet | www.pastebin.ca/6217 can u guys have a look at that for me and tell me why now my internal calls are being passed as bogan calls too? |
| 02:39.06 | JerJer | docelm0: regsiter |
| 02:39.07 | JerJer | register |
| 02:39.24 | JerJer | and nat=yes in the appropriate place(s) in sip.conf |
| 02:39.30 | JerJer | and enable nat processing on the device |
| 02:41.53 | md99 | ok - do you think it is possible for the echo cancellation/suppresion code to be integrated with chan_capi? |
| 02:42.05 | md99 | being the zaptel echo suppression code |
| 02:42.09 | docelm0 | Well the phone register's with * but it cant make calls. I have NAT set to yes under the context. I have noticed there is a setting for NAT proxy but there isnt a proxy on the network. Just a linksys router |
| 02:43.04 | JerJer | you are setting just the sip proxy NOT outbound proxy, correct? |
| 02:43.37 | docelm0 | yes. but the problem is I am not setting either. There is no sip proxy on the local network |
| 02:43.39 | inticonnet | argh now my second extension has gone back to playing dead |
| 02:44.50 | inticonnet | two extensions configured excatly the same with exception to the username. Yet the second one constantly dies for no apparent reasson |
| 02:45.15 | *** join/#asterisk BrianR___ (brianr@h006067091a61.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 02:45.18 | BrianR___ | hey folks. |
| 02:45.19 | docelm0 | check hardware I had the same problem with a Sipura 2000 |
| 02:46.10 | docelm0 | So Jer should I set the sip proxy the same as the gateway IP of the router? |
| 02:46.13 | BrianR___ | Anyone know if there's plans to add logic to asterisk to allow for REINVITE between two sets behind the same NAT or one NAT'd host and one non-NAT'd host, but to keep the behavior of canreinvite=no for the case of two sets behind different NAT? |
| 02:47.38 | BrianR___ | Also, anyone know if it's possible to twiddle codec selection based on ping time to hosts, as a cheap way for automatically picking ulaw/alaw for on-lan calls and gsm or another lossy codec for calls which cross a WAN link? |
| 02:47.55 | JerJer | docelm0: it doesn't have to be local |
| 02:47.58 | JerJer | the sip proxy is your asterisk box |
| 02:48.05 | posit | hi, when starting asterisk, I'm told that chan_zap.so fails to load because of undefined symbol: pri_dump_info |
| 02:48.10 | posit | does anyone know what could be wrong? |
| 02:48.11 | JerJer | put the ip address of your asterisk box in the sip proxy field |
| 02:48.13 | JerJer | of the phone |
| 02:48.52 | JerJer | posit: need updated version of libpri |
| 02:49.05 | Dhp4 | When i try running make install, i get this error: "/bin/sh: restorecon: command not found". The command is located in /sbin/restorecon, i am running Fedora 3, any ideas how to get this to work? |
| 02:49.07 | docelm0 | ahh ok. I have never setup a Cisco phone. I am more a Linksys ATA or Sipura person. Soyo and grandstream... I get around. I do alot of R&D at my company |
| 02:49.13 | posit | JerJer: thanks, I'll check that out |
| 02:49.18 | terrapen | yawn |
| 02:49.28 | terrapen | what would be fun to write? |
| 02:49.32 | JerJer | not agi |
| 02:49.35 | terrapen | heh |
| 02:49.39 | goatmilk | besides iaxcomm what's another windows client |
| 02:49.45 | terrapen | diax |
| 02:49.46 | dsmouse | what exactly is agi anyway? |
| 02:49.50 | terrapen | firefly |
| 02:49.56 | terrapen | ~agi |
| 02:49.57 | jbot | it has been said that agi is the Asterisk Gateway Interface... similar to CGI for web applications AGI lets you script call control and access databases using your favorite language. AGI wrappers are available for Python (pyst), Perl (astperl?) and other languages |
| 02:49.59 | JerJer | Agi is to Asterisk as CGI is to Apache |
| 02:50.01 | docelm0 | I have coded a ton of PHPAGI |
| 02:50.24 | dsmouse | ah |
| 02:50.40 | terrapen | i gotta find something fun to do |
| 02:50.43 | JerJer | BrianR___: you could write an asterisk C language application to do that test and set a codec |
| 02:51.15 | BrianR___ | JerJer: Interesting.. Now what if I want the calls to reinvite so they go phone-to-phone instead of phone->asterisk->phone? :) |
| 02:51.29 | JerJer | the trouble is pulling something like that off is going to be tough |
| 02:51.39 | inticonnet | "Unable to create/find Chanel" - What sort of chanel would it be refering too? |
| 02:51.45 | BrianR___ | JerJer: Do you know by chance if the codec negotiation for the reinvite is done by asterisk or the phones themselves? |
| 02:51.47 | JerJer | channel not loaded? |
| 02:52.00 | JerJer | type=peer not registered, in the case of ip based channels |
| 02:52.05 | PTG123 | BrianR___: asterisk |
| 02:52.20 | terrapen | maybe i could work on my m0n0bsd mods |
| 02:52.26 | inticonnet | jerjer- chanel not loaded- was that for me? |
| 02:52.29 | docelm0 | ok Jer I will mess with it tomorr |
| 02:52.30 | docelm0 | ow |
| 02:52.39 | Moc | JerJer, btw, I got my Unistim channel driver to actually work correctly hehe |
| 02:52.42 | docelm0 | and see what I can do .. Problem is my test network isnt the best. |
| 02:52.58 | BrianR___ | PTG123: Aah.. So it would be doable then. Perhaps I'll bang out the code for it at some point. |
| 02:53.04 | Moc | it just need alot of cleanup, and someone to make the phone structural design, but basic call is working |
| 02:53.26 | PTG123 | BrianR___: What are you trying to do? |
| 02:53.34 | PTG123 | BrianR___: just came in on tail end of conversation |
| 02:53.39 | terrapen | anyone ever used an 1A2 phone systme? |
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| 02:53.44 | terrapen | i think that's what they are called |
| 02:53.49 | terrapen | they are hella old |
| 02:53.51 | BrianR___ | with monitor turned on, asterisk already has the ping time to a given host.. |
| 02:54.08 | inticonnet | I like old systems :) |
| 02:54.21 | BrianR___ | PTG123: trying to cause asterisk to do some semi-intelligent automatic codec selection for clients by figuring out if they're on the same LAN or if there's a WAN path involved. |
| 02:54.23 | terrapen | inti, im wanting one of these 1A2 phones for my home |
| 02:54.28 | terrapen | and i want to interface it with Asterisk |
| 02:54.33 | terrapen | probably using an IAXy |
| 02:54.34 | inticonnet | wtf :P |
| 02:54.42 | terrapen | but im confused about what the 1A2 connects to. |
| 02:54.47 | terrapen | inti, i know, its crazy |
| 02:54.48 | inticonnet | Why tho? |
| 02:55.02 | terrapen | because the phones are sweet |
| 02:55.06 | PTG123 | BrianR___: ah, well here is a problem with going phone to phone on same lan. Most firewalls don't react well when you try and access an internal device using the external ip from another internal device |
| 02:55.27 | PTG123 | BrianR___: asterisk will however automatically try and go phone to phone if it can.. its pretty intelligent |
| 02:55.28 | inticonnet | I have heaps of old telstra s240's (Siemens Rebranded) - Oh how I love their little clicking noises :) |
| 02:55.42 | BrianR___ | PTG123: Ie, pick alaw/ulaw for clients on the same lan as eachother or the asterisk box, pick gsm or another lossy codec for calls which cross the WAN. |
| 02:56.00 | BrianR___ | PTG123: Does reinvite currently disqualify NAT'd hosts? |
| 02:56.34 | inticonnet | I have an alcatel 4400 which is supposidly an absloute beast but the HDD on the CPU is dead and trying to build a new image for it is sposidly going to cost me 1k upwards |
| 02:56.56 | terrapen | inti: this is what i want to use: |
| 02:56.56 | terrapen | http://home.att.net/~wd0giv/comercialphones.html |
| 02:57.04 | terrapen | look at those bad boys |
| 02:57.08 | terrapen | one uses punch cards! |
| 02:57.09 | BrianR___ | Perhaps I'll spend some time tomorrow and read the source.. |
| 02:57.11 | terrapen | how fucking cool is that! |
| 02:57.31 | terrapen | this will be my new desk phone at home: |
| 02:57.31 | terrapen | http://home.att.net/~wd0giv/Phones/1466b.JPG |
| 02:57.33 | PTG123 | BrianR___: no it will do a reinvite via NAT, and in theory it should work. Ah you want to change the codec if its going outside the network, or keep it at ulaw if inside? |
| 02:57.45 | terrapen | or maybe this: http://home.att.net/~wd0giv/Phones/rack1a2.jpg |
| 02:57.59 | JerJer | I see a WiAXy |
| 02:58.01 | terrapen | tell me that phone doesn't rule :) |
| 02:58.02 | inticonnet | You need like a rack cabinet just to have a few key stations :) |
| 02:58.03 | BrianR___ | PTG123: Yep. If the calls traverses the WAN, I want it to do alaw/ulaw :) |
| 02:58.07 | BrianR___ | err... |
| 02:58.23 | terrapen | inti, is that what they have to interface to? |
| 02:58.26 | BrianR___ | PTG123: Yep. If the calls traverses the WAN, I want it to do GSM or something. I want it to do ulaw/alaw if it's inside. |
| 02:58.34 | PTG123 | BrianR___: afraid of cpu usage on local hosts, why not just always use g829 quality is the same, bw usage is non existent |
| 02:58.43 | PTG123 | g729 that is |
| 02:58.43 | inticonnet | I got no idea what they interface with |
| 02:59.06 | terrapen | they have amphenol connectors |
| 02:59.17 | terrapen | not sure if they work as regular old POTS |
| 02:59.18 | inticonnet | I would assume your going to have problems :) |
| 02:59.22 | JerJer | BrianR___: there is a way to set the codec using a channel variable |
| 02:59.25 | terrapen | (excuse the redundancy) |
| 02:59.38 | terrapen | inti, these systems were pretty solid |
| 02:59.51 | inticonnet | Id say so were the desks they sat on :P |
| 02:59.53 | JerJer | why not make a macro that sets ulaw for station-to-station calls and g.729 for egress calls |
| 02:59.56 | BrianR___ | JerJer: Tell me more about how I might use this for biasing the codec based on whether or not it crosses a WAN pipe? |
| 03:00.19 | terrapen | jerjer, you ever play with 1A2 phones? |
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| 03:00.25 | BrianR___ | JerJer: Well.. I want to deal with the case where an employee has taken home a voip set. |
| 03:00.33 | PTG123 | JerJer: ya that would work actually, it knows after all if its a local extension |
| 03:00.50 | BrianR___ | obviously they won't have their own asterisk at home. |
| 03:01.07 | inticonnet | I need some fud. Bbl my * loving chatters |
| 03:02.02 | terrapen | damn, its hard to find info on really old phone tech |
| 03:02.07 | BrianR___ | also, the case of a temporary field office, perhaps with a handful of phones on the same lan but no asterisk box. |
| 03:02.57 | terrapen | look at this bad boy |
| 03:03.00 | terrapen | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11908&item=5752813003&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 03:03.14 | BrianR___ | JerJer: If I enable g.729 but don't have a g.729 codec on the asterisk box, will it do the right thing and pick another codec when users try to call voicemail or avr stuff? |
| 03:03.57 | Pkunk | BrianR___: no |
| 03:04.04 | Pkunk | BrianR___: it will spamflood |
| 03:04.10 | Pkunk | telling invalid codec |
| 03:04.22 | BrianR___ | D'oh. I wonder if that would be hard for me to fix... :( |
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| 03:04.31 | Varanger | hi ppl |
| 03:04.33 | Pkunk | disable g.729 in asterisk |
| 03:04.50 | Pkunk | as long as it isn't in asterisks allow list you're fine |
| 03:04.54 | Varanger | I need a single FXO card... which one do you advise me? |
| 03:05.18 | Pkunk | Varanger: get a tdm400P with only one fxo slot if you want something you can expand |
| 03:05.22 | BrianR___ | With g.729 disabled in asterisk, can a call between two g.729 capable sets with reinvite use g.729? |
| 03:06.17 | BrianR___ | I got a bunch of X100P clones on ebay for $10/ea for my initial asterisk testing. Hoping to pick up a wildcard quad pri if things work out. |
| 03:06.28 | inticonnet | terr- that ITT501 on ebay is keen :D |
| 03:06.38 | terrapen | inti, i wish i knew how 1A2 works |
| 03:06.59 | terrapen | like, do i hook the phone to that ITT box and connect the ITT box to POTS? |
| 03:07.00 | inticonnet | You could just buy some stuff and hope for the best |
| 03:07.04 | _Vile | sssdflsdjkh |
| 03:07.13 | terrapen | its hard as fuck to find info on 1A2 :P |
| 03:07.14 | BrianR___ | trying to integrate with an old norstar box where we've outgrown the number of stations allowed. |
| 03:07.19 | Varanger | Pkuk: How much is this TDM400p? |
| 03:07.25 | Varanger | Pkunk |
| 03:08.10 | _Vile | go channel bank, t100P call it a day |
| 03:08.13 | _Vile | stop complaining |
| 03:08.14 | BrianR___ | The TDM400p is like $350 with all four ports configured. |
| 03:08.18 | terrapen | i will mount this on the side of my desk, heh |
| 03:08.19 | terrapen | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58339&item=5751732807&rd=1 |
| 03:08.43 | _Vile | use a newbridge 3624 |
| 03:08.46 | inticonnet | Oh god.....Thats just sad :) |
| 03:08.47 | _Vile | ebay is cheap |
| 03:08.51 | Varanger | oops... I just need a single port FXO card |
| 03:08.57 | terrapen | inti, is that not the coolest thing ever... |
| 03:08.58 | Varanger | which one is good? |
| 03:09.07 | _Vile | newbridge, adit |
| 03:09.17 | _Vile | adit 600 |
| 03:09.19 | BrianR___ | Actually, between $300 and $330 at the asterisk store depending on our combination of fxo/fxs.. |
| 03:09.21 | inticonnet | Its hard to imagine people actually using it :) |
| 03:09.35 | _Vile | I would never bother with the TDM cards |
| 03:09.37 | BrianR___ | dsmouse: Heh. I bought a ton of those. $11/ea including shipping. Wastes a lot of pci cards though. |
| 03:09.42 | _Vile | never have, never will |
| 03:09.51 | BrianR___ | s/cards/slots/ |
| 03:10.00 | BrianR___ | good enough for my test setup though. |
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| 03:10.04 | terrapen | im gonna have to spend about 400$ just so i can have an old early 80s phone system that works with Asterisk |
| 03:10.08 | terrapen | but dammit, its worth it |
| 03:10.11 | _Vile | I played with the X100P's, and had so many echo issues, I said fuck it |
| 03:10.35 | inticonnet | Terr- U could just buy a huge metal case and thro asterisks box in there, then glue a few jeyboard keys to ur desk :P |
| 03:10.41 | dsmouse | BrianR___: I need some xfs cards soon anyway :( |
| 03:11.14 | terrapen | i'll build a rack for the 1A2 key system in the closet |
| 03:11.14 | _Vile | I'm building 3x Dell 1850 w/ two TE410Ps each |
| 03:11.16 | inticonnet | Not to mention strapping hundreeds of kron panels to the back of the metal box :P |
| 03:11.20 | terrapen | mount some IAXys underneath it |
| 03:11.26 | inticonnet | Yeah |
| 03:11.43 | inticonnet | It will be keen to hear the story when you have done it |
| 03:11.54 | terrapen | dunno if i want to runthat huge cable all over the apartment |
| 03:12.07 | terrapen | mabe there is a way to rewire the cables to work with cat5 |
| 03:12.27 | inticonnet | depends on the phone |
| 03:12.46 | terrapen | it looks like it is 10-conductor cable |
| 03:12.50 | terrapen | http://i20.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/6a/52/94_1_b.JPG |
| 03:13.01 | terrapen | but im not totally sure |
| 03:13.12 | Varanger | can I use Asterisk with a modem? |
| 03:13.19 | inticonnet | Thats keen :) |
| 03:13.24 | inticonnet | What do you mean with a modem? |
| 03:13.39 | terrapen | if it really uses amphenol plugs, i can find the proper plugs and wire them myself |
| 03:13.41 | Varanger | those we used to use to connect to the Internet |
| 03:13.48 | Varanger | before broadband and cable |
| 03:14.04 | Sedorox | Varanger: there is only a certain intel chipset that works |
| 03:14.13 | Varanger | which is? |
| 03:14.24 | inticonnet | Plus latencey would be huge?! |
| 03:14.24 | Sedorox | h/o |
| 03:14.25 | bjohnson | listed on the wiki |
| 03:14.37 | VoIPMasta | Where can I find the Asterisk::AGI pm? |
| 03:14.37 | dsmouse | Varanger: do you mean to have asterisk to use the modem to control a phone line or use asterisk to route phone service to a modem? |
| 03:14.39 | bjohnson | ~docs |
| 03:14.40 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 03:14.53 | BrianR___ | Varanger: Do you mean placing a call over an asterisk provided fxs channel? |
| 03:15.13 | terrapen | http://www.sundance-communications.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/000146.html |
| 03:15.15 | Sedorox | Feb 20 00:36:48 <neopher> You have to be careful which specific 537 chipset you get. Intel has a list at [http://www.intel.com/design/modems/linecard.htm]. The 537PU (or 537PG) is good, with a |
| 03:15.15 | Sedorox | MD3200 controller. The 537EPU or 537EPG is no good, as it has an unsup |
| 03:15.25 | Varanger | for instance, someone calling through the telephone network |
| 03:15.49 | inticonnet | Hrmmmm |
| 03:15.49 | Varanger | Asterisk answering and I would speak through my PocketPC |
| 03:15.54 | Varanger | using xten |
| 03:15.58 | Varanger | something like this |
| 03:16.41 | Sedorox | jbot: modem is Only Certain Intel 537 Chipsets work, mainly 537PU (or 537PG) with a MD3200 Controller, However, the 537EPU and 537EPG will _Not_ Work |
| 03:16.42 | jbot | ...but modem is already something else... |
| 03:16.45 | BrianR___ | Varanger: There's modem emulation you can use for calls coming into the asterisk box... Will work about as well as a data call through a conventional PBX unless there's jitter or any non ulaw/alaw audio paths in which case it won't work at all. |
| 03:16.49 | Sedorox | jbot: modem |
| 03:16.50 | jbot | [modem] (Modulator/Demodulator) A device to turn digital signals to analog ones and back again, so they can be transmitted and translated back to digital at another modem without loss. Used for communication through means of audio, telephone, CB, etc. Random disconnects? S10=255 sure to do the trick! |
| 03:17.01 | Sedorox | jbot: modem? is Only Certain Intel 537 Chipsets work, mainly 537PU (or 537PG) with a MD3200 Controller, However, the 537EPU and 537EPG will _Not_ Work |
| 03:17.02 | jbot | ...but modem is already something else... |
| 03:17.06 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 03:17.12 | BrianR___ | Varanger: It's popular for making asterisk based fax servers... |
| 03:17.23 | Sedorox | jbot: inet-modem is Only Certain Intel 537 Chipsets work, mainly 537PU (or 537PG) with a MD3200 Controller, However, the 537EPU and 537EPG will _Not_ Work |
| 03:17.24 | jbot | Sedorox: okay |
| 03:17.47 | inticonnet | My second extension wont work at all any more guys :S |
| 03:18.04 | BrianR___ | Varanger: Also, all of the really fast modem moulations are patent encumbered. But that won't matter much anyway since you're unlikely to get high speed connects anyway. |
| 03:18.26 | inticonnet | I might recreate its details in sip as a different extension number |
| 03:20.36 | VoIPMasta | Where can I find the Asterisk::AGI pm? |
| 03:21.31 | mikegrb | http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ |
| 03:21.51 | inticonnet | i call 2001 and get the operator saying extension 2001 is unavliable :S |
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| 03:22.38 | Sedorox | inticonnet: look on the console to see what is going on |
| 03:22.44 | inticonnet | Heheh silly me :P I forgot to change the number after U |
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| 03:23.41 | inticonnet | mm somethings broke :) |
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| 03:28.19 | Varanger | bye |
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| 03:28.38 | inticonnet | Im still getting "unable to find/create channel" |
| 03:29.12 | inticonnet | only when I call out of extension 2002, but I can call into it fine?! |
| 03:29.28 | Sedorox | huh? |
| 03:30.02 | dsmouse | inticonnet: I've had that before... If I remember correctly, it was a network issue... like nat and stuff |
| 03:30.09 | dsmouse | can't quite remember tho |
| 03:30.43 | *** join/#asterisk j_vianna (vianna@node-40247a6a.ewr.onnet.us.uu.net) |
| 03:30.56 | inticonnet | Well I try to call 2000 from sip client 2002, CLI states - "Unable to find/create channel". But I can call Sip Client 2002 from sip client 2000 |
| 03:31.04 | jsolares | inticonnet: with every extension you try to call out, or just one? |
| 03:31.05 | inticonnet | which makes me think it cant be a nat problem cause its internal only |
| 03:31.10 | inticonnet | just one |
| 03:31.26 | jsolares | maybe then exten => 2000,x,... is bad |
| 03:31.41 | inticonnet | Ive tried changing the ext number. Still does it |
| 03:31.42 | jsolares | are both sip clients in the same context in sip.conf ? |
| 03:31.58 | jsolares | are both exten's in the same context? |
| 03:32.11 | jsolares | if those are a yes, then i have no idea |
| 03:32.42 | inticonnet | http://pastebin.ca/6217 |
| 03:32.53 | inticonnet | have a look see for urself |
| 03:33.02 | j_vianna | Hi gurus! I have 2 asterisk running as "type=friend". Now when I receive a call in one part I want to send this call to the second asterisk box. Should I just use the dial(IAX...) command or I have a command to send this call to another asterisk box ? |
| 03:33.23 | Sedorox | what phone are you dialing from (the SIP user) and what are you dialing to? (sip user?) |
| 03:34.01 | inticonnet | any thoughts jsolar |
| 03:34.12 | Sedorox | j_vianna: I just dial the other box... |
| 03:34.18 | *** join/#asterisk SirPrize (~blah@83.146.62.181) |
| 03:34.19 | jsolares | havent looked yet, let me see |
| 03:34.23 | inticonnet | lol ok |
| 03:34.53 | j_vianna | Sedorox: Thanks, I thought asterisk have a way to send the call not dialing... |
| 03:35.06 | SirPrize | How would I go about setting up a user who would be contactible as username@mysipdomain.com ? |
| 03:35.19 | j_vianna | Sedorox: Like a softswitch... |
| 03:35.37 | jsolares | i dont see anything wrong for calling one sip to the other |
| 03:35.41 | Sedorox | I dunno about that.. I know when the other box picks it up it bridges it |
| 03:35.56 | SirPrize | I've read up some about DNS SRV entries - am I on the right track ? |
| 03:36.00 | j_vianna | It's not SIP, the call is IAX. |
| 03:36.28 | Sedorox | j_vianna: yea.. it just bridges the calls... |
| 03:37.13 | j_vianna | Sedorox: When I dial the call, I just transfered the call or it still consuming my bandwidth ? |
| 03:37.42 | Sedorox | no.. I think it still passes through the box.. using bandwidth.. haven't really looked at that yet.. |
| 03:38.09 | j_vianna | Sedorox: Thanks... |
| 03:38.15 | Sedorox | yup |
| 03:38.30 | jsolares | if the phones are iax, i think it tries to have both parties talk to themselves after the first server dialed out the other |
| 03:38.39 | j_vianna | Anyone using colocation in telx ??? |
| 03:38.53 | jsolares | atleast with sip if you dont have canreinvite=no on the phones, it tells both phones to connect to each other |
| 03:39.02 | jsolares | not sure what happens with iax |
| 03:39.18 | SirPrize | Am guessing that setting up a usrename@mydomain.com account would mean setting up a DNS SRV entry pointing to the SIP proxy for the mydomain, and that that points at my Asterisk server? |
| 03:39.49 | jsolares | and if the call originated with a sip phone and then goes out with iax towards the other server... i have no idea what happens then :| |
| 03:40.03 | j_vianna | hsolares: I see... when you have canreinvite the first box still bridging the call... I see... |
| 03:40.39 | jsolares | if you have canreinvite=no |
| 03:41.21 | jsolares | i had to set that up with a phone behind nat, since i had two phones behind nat, they couldnt connect to each other, so i had to set it up to canreinvite=no on both, so the call HAD to go thru the asterisk server wich wasnt behind nat |
| 03:42.33 | j_vianna | jsolares: have you tried to configue the ports in your router manualy ? |
| 03:42.53 | jsolares | well both phones were behind a nat that i didnt have access to configuring the router |
| 03:43.07 | jsolares | so no |
| 03:44.24 | jsolares | mishehu: there's even an ISP wich is also the biggest telco that seems to block sip ports on their routers, had to put an IAXy there |
| 03:44.34 | jsolares | bah, this nick completor sucks |
| 03:44.36 | jsolares | sorry mishehu |
| 03:45.12 | inticonnet | "Request to schedule in the past" - Constant message in my CLI. Has something to do with music on hold |
| 03:45.18 | inticonnet | any help with that one? |
| 03:45.27 | brc_ | ~seen kpfleming |
| 03:45.29 | jbot | kpfleming <~chatzilla@ip68-3-230-141.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 6d 7h 18m 8s ago, saying: 'anybody here done a firmware upgrade on a Snom 200?'. |
| 03:45.30 | stepcut | inticonnet: linux ? |
| 03:45.47 | inticonnet | yeah rh 8 |
| 03:45.59 | stepcut | inticonnet: are you using ztdummy ? |
| 03:46.03 | inticonnet | nup |
| 03:46.21 | SirPrize | Sedorox: any comments on DNS SRV entries ? |
| 03:46.49 | Sedorox | dunno.. still looking it up.. what do you need? maybe I'll come across it |
| 03:47.13 | inticonnet | U no how2 fix it stepcut? |
| 03:47.23 | *** join/#asterisk aminorex (~tony@c66.191.69.132.dul.mn.charter.com) |
| 03:47.32 | SirPrize | Well, I'm wondering how to actually set up a SIP address of the form username@somedomain.com - I think this needs to be done via DNS SRV entries, but am not sure yet |
| 03:47.32 | stepcut | inticonnet: nope. But I am pretty sure it is related to music on hold |
| 03:47.35 | *** join/#asterisk mrproper_ (~psynode@61.95.55.242) |
| 03:47.40 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (~eric@dsl-208-164-150-160.datasync.com) |
| 03:47.42 | inticonnet | Yeah |
| 03:47.42 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 03:47.43 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 03:47.55 | mrproper_ | does anyone know if its possible to push sip video over the h323 gateway? |
| 03:48.20 | JerJer | not today |
| 03:49.12 | inticonnet | This whole bogan caller thing is a pia....its time to chop it |
| 03:50.22 | SirPrize | only problem is, my Domain Name registrar (Enom) doesn't allow entries of type SRV into one's DNS. :-( |
| 03:51.09 | Sedorox | Silik0n: then get another dns provider.. or you SOL |
| 03:51.10 | docelm0 | What does the DNS entry SRV do in the nameserver? |
| 03:51.12 | Sedorox | you're* |
| 03:51.18 | Silik0n | ? |
| 03:51.36 | Sedorox | docelm0: apparently to do |
| 03:51.41 | Sedorox | brandon@smart-serv.net to call me |
| 03:51.55 | Sedorox | instead of IAX2/guest@smart-serv.net/2000 |
| 03:51.57 | Silik0n | ok that wasnt for me |
| 03:51.59 | Sedorox | ot etc.. |
| 03:52.03 | Sedorox | Silik0n: no.. sorry |
| 03:52.06 | Sedorox | that was for SirPrize |
| 03:52.07 | Silik0n | hah |
| 03:52.08 | SirPrize | by what I've understood, SIP in general uses DNS SRV entries to find the SIP proxy for a given domain |
| 03:52.09 | docelm0 | Sed do what? |
| 03:52.09 | Sedorox | stupid tab |
| 03:52.14 | Silik0n | heh |
| 03:52.30 | SirPrize | Sedorox: shall I call you ? |
| 03:52.32 | Sedorox | docelm0: where in your softphone you can dial <user>@domain.comf |
| 03:52.33 | Silik0n | its not there arent a ton of DNS providers out there |
| 03:52.41 | Sedorox | lol.. that isn't setup yet. but eh |
| 03:52.42 | SirPrize | Sedorox: shall I call you ? - is that what you meant ? |
| 03:52.52 | docelm0 | ahh. . I dont use soft phones but ok |
| 03:53.04 | ManxPower | I don't suppose anyone knows how to solve this error: Feb 20 18:28:19 WARNING[5070]: chan_zap.c:1313 zt_set_hook: zt hook failed: Device or resource busy |
| 03:53.06 | Sedorox | SirPrize: no.. I don't have anything setup yet... |
| 03:53.50 | Silik0n | this copy needs to hurry up and complete so I can load the car heh |
| 03:53.59 | SirPrize | Asterisk already DOES do SRV lookups, if I understood correctly |
| 03:54.09 | Sedorox | yea |
| 03:54.36 | SirPrize | mmmmm...... looks like I might end up hosting my own DNS too.... mmmmm....... not something I'd prefer to do. :-( |
| 03:54.54 | *** join/#asterisk anto9us (~chatzilla@cpc3-ptal1-5-1-cust123.swan.cable.ntl.com) |
| 03:55.00 | inticonnet | Why?! Its not that dificult |
| 03:55.31 | syslod | bind is easy |
| 03:55.35 | SirPrize | True - but with my current provider, I get geo-distributed DNS servers which host my entries. If I host it myself, it'll just be coming from one single machine |
| 03:55.46 | SirPrize | and if my machine goes down, my DNS and MX entries go down with it |
| 03:55.50 | Sedorox | yea.. but if your box goes down.. then you don't have a domainname while its down |
| 03:55.59 | SirPrize | yup |
| 03:56.08 | syslod | Is a domain without a connection any good? |
| 03:56.30 | syslod | Anyone here know about EMI, SECABS, BAF/AMI? |
| 03:56.34 | SirPrize | the MX entries are still useful while your server is dead - it can reroute your mail to backup servers, for example |
| 03:56.45 | SirPrize | makes sure you don't lose your mail while your server is dead |
| 03:56.46 | inticonnet | Ok Im getting pissed off, Now when I call sip:myexternalip the free world dialup client im calling from starts ringing. Why are none of the calls going to asterisks even tho I have statically assigned the ports in my router! |
| 03:59.03 | inticonnet | What ports should I be forwarding? |
| 03:59.31 | mrproper_ | does anyone know if its possible to push sip video over the h323 gateway? |
| 03:59.33 | file | 5060, 10000-20000 |
| 03:59.38 | file | UDP. |
| 04:00.09 | VoIPMasta | Has anyone here used astcc? |
| 04:00.18 | anto9us | Hi everyone, I'm looking configuring up to 10 voip computer terminals on a 2Mb adsl line using very old (500 mhz) workstations and 2Ghz/1GB linux box, am I in the right place to get advice on it and if so, does it sound feasible? |
| 04:01.04 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: it's doable as long as you are really getting 2mbps out of your adsl line |
| 04:01.10 | inticonnet | File: Udp + TCP or Just UDP? |
| 04:01.17 | file | UDP, just UDP |
| 04:01.22 | inticonnet | Thx |
| 04:01.32 | anto9us | VoIPMasta: 2mbps upload? |
| 04:01.49 | anto9us | I don't think it has that |
| 04:02.21 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: then you first have to check your upload capacity |
| 04:02.39 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: and it also depends on which codec you're using |
| 04:02.40 | anto9us | will do |
| 04:03.26 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: if you have ~512kbps upload then you would have to use GSM or some other narrowband codec |
| 04:03.26 | bjohnson | SirPrize: get a secondary dns server |
| 04:03.26 | bjohnson | Sedorox: ^^ |
| 04:03.53 | Sedorox | eh? it was SirPrize we were talking about |
| 04:04.05 | SirPrize | bjohnson: and point a subdomain at the secondary DNS server, you mean? Unfortunately, I can't even enter new NS records :( |
| 04:04.19 | anto9us | VoIPMasta: does asterisk support that codec out of the box? |
| 04:05.19 | JerJer | yes |
| 04:05.22 | JerJer | yes it does |
| 04:05.29 | *** part/#asterisk |neuro| (~neuro_[ru@212.176.51.231) |
| 04:05.37 | inticonnet | Ok next problem (The list has 6 items on it now)- When I call sip:192.168.5.26 (* IP) CLI dosnt even acknowledge the call and it just times out. |
| 04:05.47 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: yes, asterisk supports GSM and iLBC as free narrowband codecs, G.729 as a commercial one |
| 04:05.52 | inticonnet | I thought CLI should recognise it even if my extensions are wrong no? |
| 04:06.12 | *** join/#asterisk soundguy (~soundguy@zeus.soundguy.id.au) |
| 04:06.13 | VoIPMasta | inticonnet: you should call user/ext@ip |
| 04:06.42 | bjohnson | VoIPMasta: where is that wiki page you were working on? |
| 04:06.48 | inticonnet | but in the real world people just go sip:extip ? |
| 04:07.00 | SirPrize | Mmmm...... www.voip-info.org seems to be yoyoing up and down this entire weekend |
| 04:07.07 | *** join/#asterisk |neuro| (~|neuro|@212.176.51.231) |
| 04:08.00 | inticonnet | I think I might go back to my NEC Xen and tell my boss we are never getting Asterisk. |
| 04:09.20 | VoIPMasta | does anyone know where can I find docs for astcc? |
| 04:09.31 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Asterisk is not a SIP proxy. Asterisk is a PBX. Users don't dial by IP, they dial extensions and Asterisk figues out the rest. |
| 04:10.30 | anto9us | VoIPMasta: I have 250kbps upload speed, will any of the codecs support 10 lines on that bandwidth? |
| 04:12.18 | Hmm-work | anyone using iconnecthere? i'm looking for a cheap backup DID |
| 04:12.39 | Hmm-work | 16 bucks a month for 800 minutes |
| 04:13.10 | inticonnet | ok then well 2000/2000@192.168.5.26 dosnt do anything either...in fact fwd client tells me it aint a real address |
| 04:13.53 | SirPrize | inticonnet: try sip:2000/2000@192.168.5.26 as the address |
| 04:14.47 | JerJer | is there some other command than 'init keys' to load new rsa keys? |
| 04:14.52 | inticonnet | still nothing from cli |
| 04:15.20 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: nope |
| 04:15.26 | ManxPower | You never ever have a : in a dial statement. |
| 04:15.41 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: maybe it's doable but with "robotic" voice |
| 04:15.49 | JerJer | ManxPower: what about specifying a port? |
| 04:15.50 | ManxPower | Dial(SIP/2000@192.168.5.26) |
| 04:15.54 | JerJer | ie not using a type=peer |
| 04:16.04 | ManxPower | JerJer, Yes, then you could use a :. |
| 04:16.37 | ManxPower | The Wiki and the Asterisk mailing list archives have 2.4 billion sample Dial lines for SIP. |
| 04:16.53 | ManxPower | OK. maybe a few less than that, but they still have a lot. |
| 04:17.20 | anto9us | VoIPMasta: No, it's a telemarketing application, need to pitch a sale and record it |
| 04:17.44 | Sedorox | damn |
| 04:18.25 | ManxPower | JerJer, Any ideas on this problem: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-February/090578.html |
| 04:18.30 | anto9us | how many lines would 250kbps cope with? |
| 04:18.44 | inticonnet | ManxPower- No go. Told me it was an invalid string So i changed it to sip:2000@ip which tried to call but nothing in cli |
| 04:18.51 | ManxPower | anto9us, What codec? |
| 04:19.12 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Well sip:2000@ip will never work in an Asterisk Dial(... command. |
| 04:19.28 | anto9us | ManxPower: whichever a novice like me could set up and on a very tight budget |
| 04:19.28 | *** part/#asterisk SirPrize (~blah@83.146.62.181) |
| 04:19.46 | ManxPower | anto9us, Without knowing the codec we can't know how many calls. |
| 04:20.16 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Does the remote side require a password? |
| 04:20.33 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Are you calling a SIP phone or a SIP service provider? |
| 04:20.43 | _Vile | Manx, you fucking moron, tell him the right answer |
| 04:20.48 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: Maybe 6 simultaneous calls using GSM, considering that you won't be using your ADSL for anything else other than VoIP |
| 04:20.55 | anto9us | ManxPower: the codec would be dictated by the chosen service provider I take it? |
| 04:21.17 | ManxPower | anto9us, Most service providers support a couple of codecs. |
| 04:21.17 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: wrong, you choose the codec, regardless of the termination provider |
| 04:21.34 | ManxPower | _Vile, I'm just not in the mood to spend the 30 mins extracting the required information from him. |
| 04:22.12 | ManxPower | VoicePulse, That's a load of horse shit. You can only use the codecs that your provider supports. Most providers support 2 or 3 codecs. |
| 04:22.13 | anto9us | Could anyone advise me of a good termination provider for making calls in the UK? |
| 04:22.17 | VoIPMasta | anto9us: You could squeeze 7 and maybe 8 calls but that would be too risky |
| 04:22.26 | _Vile | manx, tell'em to read the docs then |
| 04:22.35 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 04:22.36 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 04:22.43 | _Vile | done, have a good day |
| 04:22.44 | anto9us | VoIPMasta: that would possibly be enough, the Adsl has a voice line too |
| 04:23.00 | *** join/#asterisk agave (phanop@216.81.43.75) |
| 04:23.11 | Hmm-work | no one is using iconnect huh? |
| 04:23.18 | inticonnet | manx- Im using a sip client to call asterisks - trying to call via my internal IP. |
| 04:23.35 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Oh! I can't help you then. All my SIP clients dial by number. |
| 04:23.52 | ManxPower | I assumed you had an ASTERISK question. |
| 04:24.01 | inticonnet | I do - Im trying to call asterisks |
| 04:24.10 | mishehu | inticonnet: what is "call asterisk" |
| 04:24.11 | mishehu | ? |
| 04:24.19 | inticonnet | Argh Dont worry. |
| 04:24.23 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Um, if the call isn't even getting out of your SIP client, then it's not an asterisk issue. |
| 04:24.24 | JerJer | anyone know why gcc 2.96 does like like this line struct ast_ivr_option options[]; inside of another struct |
| 04:24.26 | inticonnet | Ive confused myself |
| 04:24.38 | JerJer | include/asterisk/app.h:62: array size missing in `options' |
| 04:24.43 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Use X-lite. |
| 04:24.59 | *** join/#asterisk |neuro| (~|neuro|@212.176.51.231) |
| 04:25.16 | mishehu | ugh. I'm so sick of people telling me to look them up on skype. |
| 04:25.22 | mishehu | skype shyte. |
| 04:25.50 | _Vile | then stfu and look it up on skype. |
| 04:26.23 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Really, seriously, check the docs for your SIP client, or dial by number, not URL. |
| 04:26.59 | _Vile | inti, check the docs, at least read them for a couple of hours before coming here and bothering people |
| 04:27.02 | *** join/#asterisk SeaForth (~SeaForth@c-24-1-126-202.client.comcast.net) |
| 04:27.13 | _Vile | if you don't do that, people know |
| 04:27.15 | inticonnet | Argh - Ok I will explain my situation to any1 whos willing to help- I have an astrisks Server which I can call internal extensions on using Xlite. I have now tried calling inward from FWD but Nothing answers. However for some Farked up reasson at times the client im calling from (Sjphone) answers its own call |
| 04:27.15 | Sedorox | ~firefly |
| 04:27.17 | jbot | firefly is, like, http://virbiage.com/firefly/download/firefly-thirdparty.exe |
| 04:27.27 | mishehu | yes, if you don't read docs or join mailing lists, ManxPower will forever hate you. ;-) |
| 04:27.28 | _Vile | and people will be more hesitant to help |
| 04:28.03 | _Vile | mish, don't get yourself kicked :) |
| 04:28.12 | mishehu | _Vile: by whom? ;-) |
| 04:28.19 | _Vile | by you |
| 04:28.38 | mishehu | I am not a masochist and wouldn't kick myself |
| 04:28.51 | inticonnet | Argh *4 the second time today Nick kicks the crap out of asterisks* |
| 04:28.51 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Set up an exten => in Asterisk something like exten => 8NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/fwduser:fwdpass@fwdipaddress/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 04:28.57 | mishehu | ~theanswer inticonnet |
| 04:29.00 | jbot | inticonnet: 42 |
| 04:29.20 | _Vile | 42 is the answer to life and everything |
| 04:29.27 | inticonnet | give me a sec |
| 04:29.38 | ManxPower | Then dial via FWD by prepending 8 to the number. Come to think of it I have no idea what NXXNXXXXXX would be since I don't know the length of FWD numbers. |
| 04:29.45 | mishehu | it is the ultimate answer of Life, The Universe, and Everything |
| 04:29.47 | ManxPower | How long are FWD numbers? |
| 04:30.00 | Hmm-work | nip/tuck is getting a little freaky |
| 04:30.05 | inticonnet | 617504 |
| 04:30.09 | mishehu | ManxPower: I think fwd numbers are 6 digits |
| 04:30.16 | inticonnet | they are |
| 04:30.28 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Set up an exten => in Asterisk something like exten => 8XXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/fwduser:fwdpass@fwdipaddress/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 04:30.39 | snewpy | they're also less than 6 digits |
| 04:31.00 | inticonnet | http://pastebin.ca/6217 Would what I already have not suffice? |
| 04:31.07 | mishehu | snewpy: only the "special" ones, no? |
| 04:31.15 | snewpy | mishehu: nope, mine's 84488 |
| 04:31.28 | snewpy | lots of 5 digit ones, at least |
| 04:31.50 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Now what happens when you dial 7617504? |
| 04:32.14 | ManxPower | on the asterisk console, of course. |
| 04:32.20 | inticonnet | "Number does not exist" |
| 04:32.38 | inticonnet | mm nothing |
| 04:33.25 | ManxPower | Now, what happens if you use something like Dial(SIP/${FWDUSERID}@fwd-out/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 04:33.43 | inticonnet | Where do you want that put? |
| 04:33.49 | ManxPower | I assume unsername= the value of ${FWDUSERID} in sip.conf. |
| 04:34.16 | ManxPower | exten => _7.,3,Dial(SIP/${FWDUSERID}@fwd-out/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 04:34.29 | *** join/#asterisk BoRiS (boris@S01060040ca1e5b54.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 04:34.40 | inticonnet | argh I think i have to setup ssh...writting these down then flicking thru my kvm and reentering is painful |
| 04:35.25 | mrproper_ | anyone here pusshing sip video to MS live comms server? |
| 04:37.08 | ManxPower | Ah, and PASTE the CLI output for the Dial line. |
| 04:37.55 | inticonnet | so who do you want me to call now? |
| 04:38.33 | ManxPower | Hmm? I just know about sip.conf and Dial line formats, not FWD telephone numbers. |
| 04:38.54 | mishehu | inticonnet: you can try calling 256430 |
| 04:38.59 | mishehu | that's my fwd |
| 04:39.17 | inticonnet | so i have to prefix 7 now dont i? |
| 04:39.34 | mishehu | yup |
| 04:39.58 | ManxPower | inticonnet, um, that's the exact same pattern match as you had. |
| 04:40.07 | ManxPower | You hat do dial 7 according to your pastebin |
| 04:40.12 | inticonnet | xlite tells me "call 404 not found" and nothing in the cli |
| 04:40.26 | inticonnet | ive never had this working so it dosnt matter really :P |
| 04:40.33 | mishehu | inticonnet: did you do "extensions reload" recently? |
| 04:40.41 | ManxPower | inticonnet, You are dialing 7256430 in X-Lite? |
| 04:41.14 | inticonnet | yes |
| 04:41.24 | inticonnet | i always reload afetr a change |
| 04:41.31 | ManxPower | inticonnet, You are do not have an include => fwd-outgoing in [from-sip] |
| 04:41.35 | Dhp4 | the docs for the AMP say to isntall the cdr_mysql, in the dir /usr/src/asterisk-addons/ but its not there, was it moved in newer versions or what? |
| 04:41.44 | ManxPower | So X-lite cannot see the fwd stuff. |
| 04:41.50 | mishehu | there is a possibilty that the problem is on my end. I've not checked my FWD config in so long |
| 04:41.58 | inticonnet | argh :S |
| 04:42.14 | mishehu | Dhp4: cvs |
| 04:42.17 | ManxPower | All this silly SIP diagnostics. |
| 04:42.26 | Dhp4 | what about the CVS |
| 04:42.29 | Dhp4 | im useing the CVS |
| 04:42.30 | mishehu | Dhp4: or the asterisk-addons package |
| 04:42.38 | Dhp4 | oh its an extra folder? |
| 04:42.43 | mishehu | cvs co asterisk-addons I believe |
| 04:42.47 | ManxPower | You have to CVS checkout asterisk-addons |
| 04:42.49 | inticonnet | so add include => fwd-out in from sip? |
| 04:43.09 | Dhp4 | ManxPower + mishehu - thanks |
| 04:43.09 | ManxPower | No, include => fwd-outgoing |
| 04:43.17 | ManxPower | Yu don't have a fwd-out CONTECT |
| 04:43.26 | ManxPower | CONTEXT, even |
| 04:43.32 | inticonnet | i did b4 i think....im really confused :P |
| 04:45.01 | ManxPower | The lack of CLI output would normally indicate that the call was not even getting to Asterisk. Obviously you have mulpiple problems. |
| 04:45.17 | ManxPower | But the call is getting SOMEWHERE if you are getting a SIP 404 back. |
| 04:45.34 | inticonnet | Ok I think we got somewhere. The op said "Im sorry but thats not a valid extension try again" |
| 04:45.58 | ManxPower | inticonnet, sounds like the exten => _7.,4,Playback(invalid) |
| 04:46.06 | JerJer | _7X. |
| 04:46.12 | ManxPower | inticonnet, now put the console output on pastebin. |
| 04:47.30 | *** join/#asterisk Othello (Othello@nusnet-156-21.dynip.nus.edu.sg) |
| 04:47.53 | inticonnet | www.pastebin.ca/6221 |
| 04:48.11 | ManxPower | Feb 21 15:47:26 WARNING[2452]: chan_sip.c:1405 create_addr: No such host: fwd-out |
| 04:48.45 | Othello | oh, just a quick one: Will asterisk work better in kernel 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 04:48.50 | ManxPower | You have fwd-outgoing in sip.conf, not fwd-out |
| 04:48.54 | mishehu | Othello: yes. |
| 04:48.57 | Dhp4 | ok when i run the make for the addons i get 3 eroros, ast_list_remove' undeclared (first use in this funtion) (each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each funtion it appears in) make: *** [app_addon_sql_mysql.o] error 1 |
| 04:49.25 | Dhp4 | make clean |
| 04:49.27 | Dhp4 | opps |
| 04:49.59 | Dhp4 | any ideas? |
| 04:50.05 | mishehu | tonight must be newbie night |
| 04:50.24 | JerJer | no kidding |
| 04:50.24 | inticonnet | fixed the outgoing issue in sip but still getting invalid extension message from op. |
| 04:50.36 | JerJer | not even a full moon |
| 04:50.38 | ManxPower | inticonnet, well, we need another pastebin then, don't we? |
| 04:50.43 | inticonnet | Mishehu- Ive been at it for 24 hours not just 12 :P |
| 04:50.52 | mishehu | JerJer: damn, I can't howl at the moon yet then. |
| 04:50.58 | mishehu | must wait for the full moon. |
| 04:51.02 | Beirdo | gah |
| 04:51.10 | Beirdo | I'm feeling extra stupid tonight |
| 04:51.22 | inticonnet | Manx - 6222 |
| 04:51.23 | mishehu | inticonnet: try using it for a year, then you'll have earned some status. ;-) |
| 04:51.25 | Beirdo | what's the command to create a new voicemail box? |
| 04:51.27 | ManxPower | Beirdo, don't feel bad, it's apparent it's an epidemic tonight |
| 04:51.42 | inticonnet | hehehe |
| 04:51.47 | mishehu | Beirdo: I just edit the voicemail.conf or the db table ;-) |
| 04:51.51 | Beirdo | I've looked everywhere I can think, and for the life of me I can't find the thing |
| 04:52.02 | Beirdo | no I mean to make the directory structure |
| 04:52.10 | Dhp4 | mishehu: any ideas for my problum? |
| 04:52.19 | ManxPower | inticonnet, You either didn't reload or you didn't change fwd-out to fwd-outgoing |
| 04:52.33 | mishehu | Dhp4: that's not the full error msg, so no, I can't tell you what the problem is. it could be that it's not finding asterisk.h |
| 04:52.40 | mishehu | that's my only guess |
| 04:52.40 | ManxPower | Beirdo, Um, Asterisk creates it for you. |
| 04:52.54 | Beirdo | OK, no wonder I can't find it |
| 04:53.03 | Beirdo | what the hell was I thinking? |
| 04:53.06 | agave | heh heh |
| 04:53.06 | Beirdo | thanks |
| 04:53.18 | ManxPower | Beirdo, Asterisk USED to require an external command, but that has not been needed for at least a year, maybe 2 years |
| 04:53.27 | Dhp4 | ok i ran make again theres only 5 lines outputted so here it goes.... |
| 04:53.29 | Beirdo | ahhh |
| 04:53.34 | inticonnet | i just reloaded and its still doing it. |
| 04:53.39 | inticonnet | ill check the file again |
| 04:53.41 | mishehu | ManxPower: about 2 years, as I've been using * since september of 2003. |
| 04:53.49 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Well then you live in another universe since The Dial is using fwd-out. |
| 04:53.51 | Beirdo | maybe I saw some old doc somewhere in my travels |
| 04:53.51 | mishehu | and I never needed to run an external command. |
| 04:54.25 | Beirdo | I need to create some IVR menu recordings :) |
| 04:54.25 | mishehu | it's a mirror world. |
| 04:54.29 | inticonnet | THATS WHAT WE WANT IT TO USE! |
| 04:54.33 | JerJer | with lots of smoke |
| 04:54.41 | ManxPower | inticonnet, then change it in sip.conf. |
| 04:54.41 | inticonnet | u said change it from outgoing to out |
| 04:54.49 | inticonnet | thats where i changed it |
| 04:55.02 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Whatever the hell you use it must be the same in sip.conf and extensions.conf. |
| 04:55.17 | ManxPower | This message Feb 21 15:50:15 WARNING[2455]: chan_sip.c:1405 create_addr: No such host: fwd-out |
| 04:55.18 | mishehu | JerJer: hehe, I was actually referring to star trek tos & a song by S.P.O.C.K. |
| 04:55.39 | ManxPower | means "I can't find the section [fwd-out] in sip.conf so I'm going to assume it's a hostname and try to do a DNS lookup on it. |
| 04:55.55 | mishehu | yeah, I mean, we don't care if the context is [i-hate-you-all-now-die] as long as it's the same in both files. |
| 04:56.09 | ManxPower | mishehu, I need that context. |
| 04:56.24 | *** join/#asterisk DHuang (~DHuang@adsl-102-99.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 04:56.28 | DHuang | hi! |
| 04:56.33 | mishehu | ManxPower: as long as I don't have the honor of having an extension in that context ;-)( |
| 04:56.47 | DHuang | how do I resolve this? Unable to find a path from ilbc to g729 |
| 04:56.55 | ManxPower | mishehu, That would be the default context, of course |
| 04:57.01 | mishehu | DHuang: do you have a license for g729? |
| 04:57.17 | Dhp4 | xx-fPIC -I../asterisk -D_FNU_SOURCE -I/usr/include/mysql -c -o app_asson_sql_mysql.o app_addon_sql_mysql.c |
| 04:57.17 | Dhp4 | app_addon_sql_mysql.c:164:49: macro "AST_list_Remove" passred 4 arguments but takes just 3 |
| 04:57.17 | ManxPower | DHuang, Purchase the G729 licenses or stop allow=ing g279 |
| 04:57.17 | Dhp4 | app_addon_sql_mysql.c: In function 'del_identifier': |
| 04:57.17 | Dhp4 | app_addon_sql_mysql.c:165: error: 'AST_LIST_REMOVE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 04:57.28 | mishehu | ~pastebin |
| 04:57.29 | jbot | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 04:57.35 | Dhp4 | mishehu: thats ontop of what i posred |
| 04:57.36 | inticonnet | ok now i get "cannot find extension context 2000" |
| 04:57.38 | DHuang | mishehu: yes I do.. I can force to get 2 x g729 working.. but if 1 is ilibc and 1 is g729 then stop working? |
| 04:57.53 | Dhp4 | ehh sorry |
| 04:57.57 | ManxPower | inticonnet, repastebin your config files. |
| 04:58.02 | inticonnet | ok |
| 04:58.03 | mishehu | DHuang: hmm... don't really know, I don't have a license for g729, and don't use ilbc |
| 04:58.26 | DHuang | mishehu: it's the same for ilbc to gsm too.. |
| 04:58.39 | mishehu | Dhp4: I think I know what your problem is. do you have an older build of asterisk installed right now? |
| 04:58.54 | Dhp4 | just what i got from CVS |
| 05:00.04 | Dhp4 | so whatever is up in CVS is what i have - keep in mind asterisk starts and runs fine but i removed it and now am isntalling it to AMP's docs so i can use that |
| 05:00.18 | inticonnet | Manx- 6224 |
| 05:00.33 | Qwell | inticonnet: a full link is the "proper" way to do it |
| 05:00.37 | *** join/#asterisk roamer323 (~sing@67.71.60.238) |
| 05:00.59 | mishehu | Dhp4: well, I've seen that before myself, but I read the source and found what paramters it was looking for and removed the one it wasn't. |
| 05:01.20 | inticonnet | www.pastebin.ca/6224 |
| 05:01.23 | roamer323 | do I need ztdummy for the cmd Ringing() ? thx |
| 05:01.24 | inticonnet | sorry :S |
| 05:01.28 | mishehu | that is, unless that was the time I accidentally had an older release of asterisk installed and it couldn't build against it |
| 05:01.42 | Dhp4 | well |
| 05:01.45 | Dhp4 | what one would it be? |
| 05:02.02 | mishehu | Dhp4: gawd knows, that was about 3 months ago or so. |
| 05:02.14 | ManxPower | inticonnet, http://pastebin.ca/6225 Notice that [general] is the FIRST section of extensions.conf and notice the change in sip.conf |
| 05:02.16 | Dhp4 | so what should i do |
| 05:02.37 | ManxPower | the change in sip.conf is what I've been TRYING to make you understand |
| 05:02.50 | ManxPower | Dhp4, ask AMP users. |
| 05:03.34 | Dhp4 | could i just skip it? |
| 05:04.06 | ManxPower | Dhp4, ask AMP users. |
| 05:04.19 | Dhp4 | where ar amp usesers |
| 05:04.37 | *** join/#asterisk |Vulture| (~Vulture@109.238.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 05:04.43 | ManxPower | One would generally assume that support methods would be on the software's web site. |
| 05:06.01 | inticonnet | Manx- Why do I now have both Out And Outgoing? |
| 05:06.05 | |Vulture| | Anyone know a site that shows average costs for a PRI? |
| 05:06.28 | ManxPower | inticonnet, becuase there is no relationship whatsoever between them. |
| 05:06.41 | inticonnet | ok |
| 05:06.44 | ManxPower | A [context] in extensions.conf has nothing to do with a [section name] in sip.conf. |
| 05:07.14 | ManxPower | The only relationship beween the two is the context= line in the [section name] in sip.conf must corrospond with a [context] in extensions.conf |
| 05:07.37 | inticonnet | www.pastebin.ca\6226 |
| 05:07.41 | *** part/#asterisk DHuang (~DHuang@adsl-102-99.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 05:08.31 | ManxPower | inticonnet, repastebin your sip.conf |
| 05:08.50 | ManxPower | You know I usually require dinner and drinks before this kind of handholding. |
| 05:09.27 | syslod | Vulture: THey vary alot. What geo you in? |
| 05:09.38 | inticonnet | www.pastebin.ca/6227 |
| 05:09.40 | Beirdo | you know what would be nice? If you could break out of MusicOnHold with a dialed digit, say to break out to an operator |
| 05:09.40 | mishehu | ManxPower: got the flu? |
| 05:09.41 | mishehu | heh |
| 05:09.57 | ManxPower | mishehu, newbie overload |
| 05:10.03 | mishehu | Beirdo: I believe that there is a way to do that |
| 05:10.09 | syslod | Beirdo: Doesn't background do that? |
| 05:10.11 | ManxPower | It's like the invading hordes of barbarians |
| 05:10.26 | mishehu | ManxPower: there goes the roman empire... |
| 05:10.32 | Beirdo | syslod: how do you background MOH? |
| 05:10.45 | ManxPower | Canada is prolly felling something similar from all the Americans moving there. |
| 05:10.47 | inticonnet | Manx- If ur ever my way Ill take u down to the club I work at and give u a day of free drinks and food :P |
| 05:10.49 | Beirdo | background is for playback of gsm files last I looked |
| 05:10.49 | syslod | Take a look at background |
| 05:11.18 | |Vulture| | syslod: I am looking for it in Jacksonville, Florida |
| 05:11.24 | ManxPower | Beirdo, Background is of playback of any support audio file format AND expect DTMF. Playback does the same without expecting DTMF. |
| 05:11.24 | mishehu | Beirdo: background is for playback of more than just gsm files |
| 05:11.36 | syslod | Your average should be around $800. |
| 05:11.42 | mishehu | yeah, exactly as ManxPower said |
| 05:12.00 | Beirdo | can it play via a custom script similar to MOH? |
| 05:12.03 | inticonnet | manx- There u go www.pastebin.ca/6227 (I even put the url in this time :) ) |
| 05:12.18 | |Vulture| | syslod: and you can get them in not full 23 channels for a lot cheaper right? |
| 05:12.32 | ManxPower | inticonnet, Stop rearranging things! |
| 05:12.42 | syslod | Vulture: Not really most lecs don't even offer frac PRI. |
| 05:12.45 | inticonnet | I did what u told me to :P |
| 05:12.59 | ManxPower | [general] must always be first. register must always be in general. |
| 05:13.15 | |Vulture| | syslod: so if I was looking for around 10-12 lines I might just want to go with a fract T1 and a T100P card? |
| 05:13.22 | syslod | Vulture: What are you looking for? They don't really make alot of sense usually unless you have at least 8 lines. I like to see ppl that need 16 or so before looking a PRI> |
| 05:13.51 | syslod | Do you need PRI? |
| 05:13.52 | agave | $800 for a PRI |
| 05:13.52 | ManxPower | http://pastebin.ca/6228 |
| 05:14.03 | syslod | agave: Yea in cities. |
| 05:14.13 | agave | no, I agree |
| 05:14.15 | agave | that's what I sell them for |
| 05:14.17 | agave | <-- clec |
| 05:14.20 | ManxPower | This is turning from handholding into something that requires monetary exchange. |
| 05:14.20 | denon | PRI can make a lot of sense if you need to set your own CID, or need some of the advanced features of audio quality |
| 05:14.23 | |Vulture| | syslod: no I only need between 10 and 12 lines |
| 05:14.32 | inticonnet | Im keen :) |
| 05:14.32 | agave | vulture: then buy from a SIP or IAX based provider |
| 05:14.39 | syslod | agave: U know anything about EMI or AMA records? |
| 05:14.52 | agave | syslod: my billing analyst is better than i, but I may know the answer.. |
| 05:14.57 | syslod | IAX trunks would be much cheaper. |
| 05:15.04 | mishehu | $800 for a pri? damn. |
| 05:15.14 | mishehu | I can get loop for $300... and I'm not a lec. |
| 05:15.16 | ManxPower | mishehu, that's pretty average. |
| 05:15.25 | agave | mish: retail. wholesale you can get them for $250 - $500 depending on whether MOUs are included |
| 05:15.31 | syslod | agave: We are look at writing a EMI combiner for VOIP to work with billing and SECABS. |
| 05:16.03 | agave | mm.. you want to bill out CABs records? |
| 05:16.12 | syslod | CABS and end user |
| 05:16.12 | mishehu | agave: you have to refresh my memory on what is an MOU... the one acronym I always remember is PCMCIA... "people can't memorize computer industry acronyms" |
| 05:16.15 | |Vulture| | right now we have 6 lines and 384K on a Frac T1 but we want to go to just phone lines |
| 05:16.19 | agave | mish: minutes of use |
| 05:16.37 | denon | s/computer/telephony/ |
| 05:16.39 | mishehu | agave: does that $800 include MOU ? |
| 05:16.50 | |Vulture| | pay ~$500 for the 6 lines and 384k |
| 05:16.50 | syslod | We are doing it now but its a combination of outsourced. I'm tired of not controling my billing. |
| 05:16.54 | agave | syslod: well, if you're going to bill cabs then you're probably going to have to pull those records right off the TDM switch... you can't normally bill CABS off a voip trunk unless you're doing something... special |
| 05:16.56 | mishehu | denon: computers control your phone calls, so no need to correct |
| 05:17.04 | agave | mish: yes. usually if you pay retail MOU is included, outbound and inbound |
| 05:17.19 | denon | mishehu: its a telephony acronym, though :) |
| 05:17.22 | agave | to bill CABs you're going to need the CIC code to know who to bill, for instance |
| 05:17.28 | syslod | agave: We are doing something "special" and pulling off the switch. |
| 05:17.31 | denon | even if all you had was Mr Bell and his tin cans and string :) |
| 05:17.39 | mishehu | denon: they merged together though. |
| 05:17.54 | syslod | Yea we've got all that. LPIC, PIC the whole nine yards. |
| 05:18.09 | inticonnet | Time for more handholding manx? |
| 05:18.26 | mishehu | inticonnet: I thought you guys were up to kissing on the cheek |
| 05:18.38 | inticonnet | Hehehehehe |
| 05:18.39 | |Vulture| | syslod: would it work getting a frac T1 with 12 lines and then plug it into a T100P? |
| 05:18.43 | syslod | agave: Are you doing billing in-house? |
| 05:18.47 | *** join/#asterisk PBXtech (~upirc@wirelessdata-167-248.mycingular.net) |
| 05:18.50 | Beirdo | I thought I detected some pawing going on |
| 05:18.54 | inticonnet | I got invalid extension again...give me a sec ill get u another pastebin |
| 05:19.03 | syslod | Vulture: Yes * can handle just about anything. |
| 05:19.05 | agave | well our billing analyst wrote our CABS billing, we used to use a company called Intec... really all you need to do for CABS is make sure you add them up correctly and bill the correct IXC... and charge the correct rates, and have it in your tariff |
| 05:19.23 | mishehu | cabs == client access billing system? |
| 05:19.26 | syslod | agave: u won't rent you analyst out would you? |
| 05:19.32 | agave | we bill out about $200,000 in CABS |
| 05:19.35 | agave | monthly |
| 05:19.35 | agave | heh |
| 05:19.39 | |Vulture| | syslod: this is just new to me Ive done a few installs with TDMs with only 4 lines, but this is a bigger office.. just trying to figure what we need |
| 05:19.39 | agave | syslod, sorry, no can do. |
| 05:19.42 | inticonnet | Manx- www.pastebin.ca/6229 |
| 05:19.52 | agave | mish: no, CABS is carrier access billing |
| 05:20.04 | syslod | We use intec now. |
| 05:20.05 | inticonnet | if i ever start an * support company ill make u the ceo :P |
| 05:20.20 | agave | syslod: oh, I was going to say, if you need somebody, use intec. having your own analyst is sometimes more of a headache |
| 05:20.21 | denon | agave: 200k in cellular cab? |
| 05:20.39 | syslod | agave: U wireless? |
| 05:20.47 | agave | no, we're Facil. based |
| 05:20.53 | agave | i don't touch wireless |
| 05:21.04 | denon | what, no love of ulcers? |
| 05:21.08 | denon | live a little :) |
| 05:21.10 | agave | hehe heh |
| 05:21.16 | ManxPower | inticonnet, That means it's working, but the number you called is not currently registered with FWD. You should remove the allow=all and put disallow=all and allow= the codecs you want. |
| 05:21.31 | *** join/#asterisk jonas (jonas@jonas.probe-networks.host.freenode) |
| 05:21.31 | syslod | Problem with intec is they aren't integrated. Compared to what we technically do know CABS doesn't look that bad. |
| 05:21.35 | ManxPower | inticonnet, That's what they all say. |
| 05:21.38 | denon | ManxPower: bkw would argue that now allow=all is a Good Thing(tm) |
| 05:21.44 | denon | since he "fixed" it |
| 05:21.49 | ManxPower | denon, bkw_ is a lunatic. |
| 05:21.57 | ManxPower | I like him, but he's still a lunatic. |
| 05:21.58 | denon | im just telling you what he would say :) |
| 05:21.59 | agave | syslod: it's not hard. unbillables are a PITA, and you'll get IXCs who don't want to pay |
| 05:22.02 | agave | ATT is the worst |
| 05:22.12 | inticonnet | Thank Goodness :) Thanks Manx :D and at risk of breaking something else im not disallowing anything yet |
| 05:22.21 | denon | agave: so turn em over to colletions :) |
| 05:22.23 | ManxPower | inticonnet, allow=all will break things. |
| 05:22.25 | denon | put a lean on their properties <G> |
| 05:22.33 | syslod | :) Don't term there calls. When they call up after a customer complains let them know what they owe. :) |
| 05:22.34 | mishehu | att is being bought out by sbc |
| 05:22.37 | mishehu | good luck! |
| 05:22.40 | inticonnet | argh so what should I change it to :S |
| 05:22.45 | agave | we make the most CABs on our originated traffic, heh |
| 05:22.57 | ManxPower | inticonnet, your original allow and disallow looked good to me. |
| 05:22.59 | syslod | orig traffic? Third party or LD? |
| 05:23.03 | agave | ld |
| 05:23.06 | agave | + tfns |
| 05:23.13 | inticonnet | *Ouch* I stuck my finger in my pcmcia slot. Its hot in there |
| 05:23.14 | mishehu | Q: where does a 300 billion monkey toss his poo? |
| 05:23.15 | inticonnet | ok thx |
| 05:23.25 | *** join/#asterisk datareactor (datareacto@203.81.192.33) |
| 05:23.26 | mishehu | A: wherever he likes to, which is usually right at you. |
| 05:23.45 | mishehu | err insert "pound" between billion and monkey |
| 05:23.53 | Inv_arp | is there a ${TRUNK} command in *? |
| 05:23.55 | syslod | agave: U doing end user billing IH? |
| 05:24.04 | agave | we do everything in house, now. |
| 05:24.08 | mishehu | Inv_arp: ${TRUNK} is a variable |
| 05:24.23 | syslod | Yea thats where we are headed. Trying to find others so we aren't doing it alone. |
| 05:24.44 | agave-txlink | syslod, are you a CLEC? |
| 05:24.48 | syslod | Yea. |
| 05:24.53 | agave-txlink | what state? |
| 05:24.54 | syslod | We serve southeast |
| 05:24.58 | agave-txlink | bell south? |
| 05:25.11 | ManxPower | BellSouth is not a CLEC. |
| 05:25.12 | syslod | Most of there territory. Little VZ too |
| 05:25.19 | Inv_arp | mishehu: a global variable used by *? |
| 05:25.21 | agave-txlink | eek VZ |
| 05:25.23 | agave-txlink | manx: no shit |
| 05:25.23 | syslod | Facilities based. Enterprise customers. |
| 05:25.30 | agave-txlink | we're mainly SBC |
| 05:25.35 | agave-txlink | some qwest |
| 05:25.41 | denon | huh wha? syslod owns MCI? </rumors start=true> |
| 05:26.06 | denon | pity, that'd almost work if they were privately held :) |
| 05:26.15 | ManxPower | denon, Obviusly not or he'd be in jail. |
| 05:26.25 | syslod | I won't of gave them a dollar for MCI. VZ is just gonna hull that infrastucture and gobble up the customer. |
| 05:26.29 | agave-txlink | manx: all CLECs have to operate in some ILEC territory... |
| 05:26.30 | denon | hah |
| 05:26.39 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, I know. |
| 05:26.39 | agave-txlink | hah, SBC got the better deal |
| 05:26.41 | agave-txlink | those assholes |
| 05:26.58 | agave-txlink | manx: thus my bellsouth comment said he said southeast... |
| 05:27.02 | mishehu | Feb 20 23:26:35 NOTICE[11040]: chan_sip.c:7271 handle_request: Failed to authenticate user "asterisk" <sip:asterisk@192.168.5.26>;tag=as485edb38 |
| 05:27.08 | mishehu | is somebody trying to call me? |
| 05:27.35 | ManxPower | MCI can't help but suck. They are a company made up of companies they bought. Integrating all those voice and data backbones and billing systems is not possible. |
| 05:27.37 | Sedorox | thats a lock address.... |
| 05:27.40 | Sedorox | local* |
| 05:27.43 | syslod | agave: U are doing IAX term/orig? |
| 05:27.48 | agave-txlink | syslod: si |
| 05:27.59 | ManxPower | THAT'S why we won't use MCI. |
| 05:28.18 | syslod | Kinda like alcatel :) |
| 05:28.32 | Beirdo | ManxPower: it's possible, but will take time |
| 05:28.37 | ManxPower | I seem to recall an article I read a year or two ago that said that MCI had 37 billing systems. |
| 05:28.41 | agave-txlink | heh |
| 05:28.41 | mishehu | yeah, and now mci is going to verizon now no? |
| 05:28.44 | agave-txlink | MCI reps |
| 05:28.46 | agave-txlink | used to gain double commissions |
| 05:28.50 | agave-txlink | by bouncing orders from one system to another |
| 05:28.51 | agave-txlink | hehe |
| 05:28.55 | Beirdo | keep counting, ManxPower, I think that's low |
| 05:29.06 | inticonnet | I setup another fwd account and sucsesfully called myself :) |
| 05:29.07 | Hmm-work | this guy has issue's |
| 05:29.22 | ManxPower | Beirdo, Remember that 2 years ago they had time to integrate some of their systems. |
| 05:29.23 | Inv_arp | hmm anyone have an ex.. on how to do sip to hardphone xfers? in extension.conf |
| 05:29.27 | Beirdo | mishehu: might be going to Verizon... if the regulatory people let it happen, and the MCI shareholders agree |
| 05:29.53 | syslod | Are there any carriers left for the carriers carrier? |
| 05:29.56 | md99 | is anyone online using passive BRI ISDN Cards? |
| 05:29.58 | Sedorox | ummm |
| 05:30.00 | Sedorox | Question |
| 05:30.02 | ManxPower | syslod, Level3? |
| 05:30.10 | terrapen | does anybody have a copy of the Bell System Practices document set? |
| 05:30.13 | Beirdo | ManxPower: remember that 2 years ago, they went into bankruptcy protection due to stupid past excesses, and had to lay off a lot of people |
| 05:30.14 | mishehu | Beirdo: with republican federal gov't, and sprintpcs's purchase of nextel, and sbc's purchase of att, what makes you think it's not a done deal? |
| 05:30.16 | Sedorox | why would the Shareholders not want it to happen when they turned down a offer from Qwest for a higher amount |
| 05:30.22 | terrapen | (does anybody know what i'm talking about?) |
| 05:30.24 | syslod | Hmm. Does SBC or VZ use level3? |
| 05:30.38 | syslod | terrapen: Which ones? |
| 05:30.46 | Beirdo | mishehu: I think both of those are pending approval too |
| 05:31.00 | terrapen | syslod, i'm looking for some that might cover 1A2 systems |
| 05:31.04 | terrapen | but really any woudl be nice |
| 05:31.10 | Beirdo | Sedorox: they didn't turn down the Qwest offer, the *board* did |
| 05:31.14 | terrapen | http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/cds-documents.html |
| 05:31.17 | mishehu | Beirdo: sprintpcs is approved I believe. |
| 05:31.17 | terrapen | that's what i want |
| 05:31.25 | agave-txlink | heh |
| 05:31.27 | agave-txlink | level3 sucks |
| 05:31.31 | agave-txlink | we have an interconnect iwth them |
| 05:31.32 | syslod | I've got a older copy from the contel days somewhere. |
| 05:31.38 | agave-txlink | their termination rates are horrible and their origination is worse |
| 05:31.42 | Beirdo | you are likely right, it will probably get shoved through, though |
| 05:31.43 | terrapen | really? |
| 05:31.45 | agave-txlink | and they have a $50K / mo minimum commit |
| 05:31.47 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 05:31.56 | roamer323 | I hear ringback when calling ATA to softphone, and softphone to softphone, but not from softphone to ATA, and not from any incoming DID call - anyone knows what the problem may be? |
| 05:32.18 | Beirdo | at which point MCI will be doing more layoffs |
| 05:32.48 | Beirdo | I hope to be re-employed by then (I'm on contract to MCI Canada right now - internal systems UNIX admin) |
| 05:33.50 | inticonnet | Would it scare u all If I told u I was a network admin :P Good thing we use windows and not linux I guess hehehe |
| 05:33.56 | ManxPower | One would assume that "A carrier's carrier" would have high min monthly billings. |
| 05:34.18 | agave-txlink | one would also assume that if you're spending $50K a month you'd get a good rate |
| 05:34.29 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, Yes, you would also assume that. |
| 05:34.38 | ManxPower | I guess they want to make a profit. 8-) |
| 05:34.54 | agave-txlink | bah.. they're selling a TDM product in a VoIP world |
| 05:35.08 | ManxPower | Are they reliable? |
| 05:35.11 | agave-txlink | no |
| 05:35.18 | ManxPower | Can you get tech support when you need it? |
| 05:35.19 | agave-txlink | i have 503's from them a lot |
| 05:35.23 | agave-txlink | tech support? LOL |
| 05:35.31 | agave-txlink | you haven't dealt with lvl3 .. have you ? :) |
| 05:35.36 | ManxPower | They sound like every other VoIP terminatin provider then. |
| 05:35.58 | level3-idiot | hello, I believe the problem is that your SIP gateway is being interferred with by the earth's ionsphere |
| 05:35.59 | ManxPower | level3-idiot, I'm not a carrier. |
| 05:36.17 | level3-idiot | now buy another GIG-E port from us and the problem will go away |
| 05:36.30 | level3-idiot | we'll only charge you two times the going rate |
| 05:36.42 | level3-idiot | and we'll buy you lunch at a crappy resteraunt |
| 05:37.50 | agave-txlink | <ManxPower> They sound like every other VoIP terminatin provider then. |
| 05:37.55 | agave-txlink | you sound bitter, manx... have you had bad experiences? |
| 05:38.18 | agave-txlink | :) |
| 05:38.23 | mishehu | who HASN'T had bad experiences in telcom? |
| 05:38.24 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, No, based on reports on the mailing lists I avoid using ITSPs except as a backup to my PSTN lines. |
| 05:38.45 | agave-txlink | heheh |
| 05:39.03 | ManxPower | I use VoIP, I just terminate my own calls. |
| 05:39.19 | agave-txlink | but you still need a backup ? |
| 05:39.40 | syslod | I think the model is be your own provider, own the last mile, rent them a phone system, bundle the internet web and email, kill off the competition, wait for the ILEC to raise pricing then raise them yourself. |
| 05:39.53 | agave-txlink | syslod: amen |
| 05:39.57 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, Why not have a backup? You never know if you will run out of PSTN channels on a busy day or you never know when the PRI will go down. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen. |
| 05:40.05 | agave-txlink | or you could be like icenet and give it away and then wonder why you have $10m in debt... |
| 05:40.12 | syslod | :) |
| 05:40.13 | agave-txlink | manx, i'm just giving you a hard time :) |
| 05:40.23 | *** part/#asterisk agave-txlink (phanop@216.81.43.75) |
| 05:40.28 | terrapen | i got a response on my question about 1A2 phone systems, posted to a telephone tech forum: |
| 05:40.32 | terrapen | "Have fun wrapping your apartment with 25 pair. It's quite attractive." |
| 05:40.34 | syslod | I see pricing going up, cost going down. Perfect time to be in telecom. |
| 05:40.35 | terrapen | heh |
| 05:40.40 | *** join/#asterisk agave-txlink (phanop@216.81.43.75) |
| 05:40.41 | agave-txlink | whoops |
| 05:40.47 | terrapen | 25 pair cable is a bit excessive |
| 05:40.51 | *** join/#asterisk |neuro| (~|neuro|@212.176.51.231) |
| 05:41.02 | Sedorox | how about 100pair? |
| 05:41.09 | terrapen | maybe i should just say fuck it and give up on 1A2 |
| 05:41.14 | Sedorox | had some of that a while ago... was a bitch to work with... and to throw out... lol |
| 05:41.14 | syslod | alum cable? |
| 05:41.17 | ManxPower | At the ISP I used to work at we had 25 pair CAT 5. Really weird looking stuff. |
| 05:41.17 | terrapen | i *really* like these phones, though |
| 05:41.21 | inticonnet | Are u still on about that terra :P |
| 05:41.24 | agave-txlink | sounds like ABAM cable... |
| 05:41.26 | terrapen | its just a matter of HOW MUCH do i really like them |
| 05:41.28 | terrapen | yes, inti :) |
| 05:41.47 | terrapen | if i were building a new house, i would do this |
| 05:41.49 | syslod | terrapen: just gut it and put something inside that works. |
| 05:41.49 | inticonnet | well I paid $1500 for a dead system once just cause I thought I could fix it :P |
| 05:41.50 | terrapen | but im in an apartment |
| 05:42.10 | mishehu | inticonnet: sounds like that windows system you use. |
| 05:42.19 | ManxPower | I have cat 5 running all over my apartment. It's ugly, but anyone that cares that much about looks doesn't get invited to my apartment. |
| 05:42.25 | terrapen | http://home.att.net/~wd0giv/Phones/bigbuttonphone.jpg |
| 05:42.30 | terrapen | there's a phone for me |
| 05:42.33 | agave-txlink | syslod: are you using * for your enterprise deployments? |
| 05:42.35 | inticonnet | Bloody windows |
| 05:42.39 | terrapen | my sister had that phone, in like 1983 |
| 05:42.50 | mishehu | ManxPower: that includes potential S.O.'s I imagine |
| 05:42.55 | agave-txlink | mishehu, hehee |
| 05:43.06 | syslod | Right now we have traditional iron running enterprise. |
| 05:43.07 | ManxPower | mishehu, Yes. And current ones. |
| 05:43.21 | syslod | R&D with * right now. |
| 05:43.35 | terrapen | syslod, where do you work>? |
| 05:43.39 | agave-txlink | syslod: okay, just wondering how it was working out for you. |
| 05:43.46 | terrapen | http://home.att.net/~wd0giv/Phones/aligatophone.jpg |
| 05:43.47 | terrapen | OH WORD |
| 05:43.50 | terrapen | aligator skin phone |
| 05:43.56 | agave-txlink | we have our call center and both admin offices running on it |
| 05:43.58 | terrapen | puff daddy would be proud |
| 05:44.14 | syslod | Well, after spending 6 months integrating it with OSS it works great. Click click and you have a working high end PBX phone. |
| 05:44.31 | ManxPower | mishehu, I have computer guts scattered around the apartment. The Cat 5 is not unusual. |
| 05:44.45 | terrapen | i'm wondering how much IVR stuff our customers will tolerate |
| 05:44.54 | terrapen | it would be so nice to automate a lot of the stuff with IVR |
| 05:45.01 | terrapen | but i'm afraid people will get pissed and hang up |
| 05:45.10 | agave-txlink | customers love web automation... not so many people like IVR automation |
| 05:45.11 | inticonnet | I want to change ours at work so when they push 8 to log a fault it hangs up on them |
| 05:45.23 | ManxPower | terracon, Um, that's the GOAL of an IVR! |
| 05:45.23 | terrapen | agave: isn't that funny. |
| 05:45.23 | Hmm-work | customers get pissed, hang up and call back |
| 05:45.35 | Sedorox | terrapen: I wouldn't have more then a 3 menu deep system |
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| 05:45.40 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ |
| 05:45.46 | agave-txlink | heh... I accidently had asterisk voicemail programmed wrong once so if someone hit an ext. for voicemail it hung up on them |
| 05:45.46 | agave-txlink | whoops |
| 05:45.50 | Hmm-work | and you won't piss them off completely if you have a way to put them in queue with someone live |
| 05:45.51 | Sedorox | ours is only one.. right now.. lol |
| 05:45.55 | agave-txlink | i wondered why the voicemails were light for a few days..... |
| 05:46.04 | terrapen | well, i was thinking about having customers enter their home phone number (which we use as a customer ID) when they call into the IVR |
| 05:46.13 | syslod | We have 3 test customers. Insurance, Lawyer, and local govt building. All have there own speical twists they like. |
| 05:46.25 | terrapen | i get so pissed when i enter a number in an IVR and then the rep asks me for my number all again |
| 05:46.35 | inticonnet | Microsoft ay :) |
| 05:46.52 | inticonnet | Them and their dodgy product activation |
| 05:47.05 | syslod | agave: U doing configs by hand? |
| 05:47.16 | agave-txlink | syslod: yes :( |
| 05:47.17 | |Vulture| | hmm this online quote tool is quoting $630 for a T1 PRI with unlimited local calling... 1 year contract |
| 05:47.22 | agave-txlink | haven't had time to play with realtime yet |
| 05:47.22 | inticonnet | "No this is the only computer this copy of windows is on, and what was the activation key again" |
| 05:47.28 | agave-txlink | we have the provisioners do it |
| 05:47.38 | Inv_arp | hmm anyone have an ex.. on how to do sip to hardphone xfers? in extension.conf |
| 05:47.39 | agave-txlink | i'd really like to move to web based so we can integrate with OSS |
| 05:47.53 | ManxPower | Inv_arp, Uh, use the SIP device |
| 05:47.58 | ManxPower | Inv_arp, Uh, use the SIP device's TRANSFER button? |
| 05:48.01 | terrapen | i don't see the point of realtime |
| 05:48.18 | ManxPower | terracon, RealTime is useful for people with larger deployments. |
| 05:48.21 | terrapen | seems to be that it adds a very critical point of failure |
| 05:48.25 | Inv_arp | ManxPower: i meant sip to pstn if no one picks up sip |
| 05:48.25 | *** join/#asterisk scardinal (~supreme@port816.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 05:48.32 | agave-txlink | yeah |
| 05:48.39 | agave-txlink | one month we had enough problem with cdr_mysql |
| 05:48.45 | agave-txlink | still not sure what happened, but we lost billing records |
| 05:48.48 | syslod | I'll trade you OSS for *, DMS-100 and semiens for CABS analisyt :) |
| 05:49.03 | agave-txlink | asterisk was writing them to the cSV files but seemed to be logging them to mysql, too... |
| 05:49.18 | agave-txlink | syslod: sorry, no deal, we have OSS for Siemens EWSD / DCO + DMS 500 already :p |
| 05:49.25 | ManxPower | We may move to RealTime when it's released. |
| 05:49.25 | agave-txlink | what siemens are you using ? |
| 05:49.27 | terrapen | i do not want to bet my goddamned phonesystem on mysql |
| 05:49.41 | syslod | Same |
| 05:49.44 | ManxPower | terracon, uh, RealTime lets you use pretty much any database you wany. |
| 05:49.52 | ManxPower | want |
| 05:50.03 | agave-txlink | yes, the old siemens CLEC special combo |
| 05:50.06 | agave-txlink | add hot sauce for $1.99 extra |
| 05:50.34 | agave-txlink | is realtime going to be in 1.2 stable ? |
| 05:50.38 | syslod | We've went back to using files only for both configs and CDR. any DB seems to loose data, crash or otherwise be unrelaible. |
| 05:50.42 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, I assume so. |
| 05:50.48 | inticonnet | Umm guys, sorry to ask this again but sip:2000@192.168.5.26 should just work shouldnt it? |
| 05:50.51 | ManxPower | or whatever Mark calls the next stable release. |
| 05:51.12 | agave-txlink | syslod: yeah if we have another bad billing month i'm going to CDR-text too... it's easy to do an import into SQL and then do mediation before hand anyway... |
| 05:51.23 | agave-txlink | the main reason we have hte damn SQL is so customers can look at their CDRs in real time |
| 05:51.24 | syslod | :) |
| 05:52.04 | syslod | We have it down to about a 6 second interval but we keep the raw files. Pipes can get you real time CDR without loosing records. |
| 05:52.22 | agave-txlink | hrm.. |
| 05:52.30 | syslod | I don't know of any switches that do anything in a relational db so I assume they know something. |
| 05:52.42 | agave-txlink | lol |
| 05:52.59 | terrapen | syslod, i agree totally |
| 05:53.03 | terrapen | i won't bet on a DB |
| 05:53.25 | terrapen | maybe postgres running on freebsd |
| 05:53.30 | terrapen | but really not even that |
| 05:53.31 | syslod | It might work for a small PBX but in our testing with like a 300+ extension system it just is not smart. Take trunking 1000+ accounts and it really craps out. |
| 05:53.31 | anto9us | syslod: I've always found postgesql very reliable, I have a cron job to back up all databases to another server every 15 minutes, haven't had to restore in 2 years |
| 05:53.42 | ManxPower | You know there is a CDR Fork application, right? |
| 05:53.53 | ManxPower | Lets you log CDRs to more than one destination. |
| 05:53.53 | agave-txlink | manx: explain ? i have heard of that |
| 05:53.55 | syslod | What does fork do? |
| 05:53.57 | agave-txlink | manx: oh, okay. |
| 05:54.10 | agave-txlink | so why does my asterisk log to .csv AND mysql ? |
| 05:54.15 | agave-txlink | and i'm not using CDR Fork ? |
| 05:54.23 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, I only know about it from reading the asterisk-cvs mailing list. |
| 05:54.28 | syslod | I still think its easier to do it the old fashioned way. Log to a file and process a few records at a time. |
| 05:54.30 | *** join/#asterisk rett (~rett@c-67-171-236-169.client.comcast.net) |
| 05:54.37 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, I think it logs to the text file by default. |
| 05:54.48 | agave-txlink | it may just be the * version |
| 05:54.53 | agave-txlink | when I was using -HEAD it would do one or the other |
| 05:54.54 | agave-txlink | now i'm using -STABLE |
| 05:55.15 | terrapen | how do you get -STABLE via cvs |
| 05:55.17 | syslod | The way our switches do it to have a set length of time to close a file. Like 6 minuites. It works really well. |
| 05:55.23 | agave-txlink | -rv1-0 |
| 05:55.24 | inticonnet | argh theres no audio comming back in i just realised :'( |
| 05:55.24 | agave-txlink | or something like that |
| 05:55.29 | agave-txlink | instructinos are on asterisk.org under download |
| 05:55.33 | terrapen | i've always folled the installation instructions on the wiki but i never know if im getting -HEAD or -STABLE |
| 05:55.34 | inticonnet | I called 7612 which is fwd automated time |
| 05:55.35 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, You realized that CVS-HEAD is called "the developement version of Asterisk" for a reason, huh? |
| 05:55.40 | inticonnet | BUT THERES NO TIME |
| 05:55.43 | inticonnet | :') |
| 05:55.49 | agave-txlink | manx... uh... yeah? |
| 05:55.54 | ManxPower | unless you specify -r v1-0 on the cvs line you are getting CVS-HEAD. |
| 05:56.07 | Qwell | inticonnet: use 613m and do an echo test |
| 05:56.18 | agave-txlink | we used to get CVS-HEAD but lately have been doing -r v1-0 |
| 05:56.21 | Qwell | s/613m/613,/ |
| 05:56.24 | inticonnet | Heres the funny thing..I cant find my microphone so I cant :P |
| 05:56.41 | inticonnet | Im not having a good day |
| 05:57.21 | syslod | My personal opinion is that * should have all settings in memory and something seperate to edit realtime. LDAP would be best storage. I mean think about it you wouldn't get a core IP router attached to MYSQL for routing DB. |
| 05:57.51 | syslod | Or would you? :) |
| 05:57.52 | anto9us | LDAP is not very good for frequent updates |
| 05:58.13 | agave-txlink | bah... |
| 05:58.19 | syslod | In all my * installings it like 99.99999 reads and like .000000001 writes. |
| 05:58.19 | anto9us | it's optimised for querying |
| 05:58.34 | syslod | Anyways. I like the edit and publish approach. |
| 05:58.47 | inticonnet | So without the ability to do an echo test would we assume its a port forwarding problem? |
| 05:58.56 | rett | Has anyone in here run multiple instances of asterisk within Xen? |
| 05:59.21 | syslod | anto9us: I've heard it before. LDAP is slower a writing than reading. I'm talking about configs not CDR so thats not an issue. |
| 05:59.31 | *** join/#asterisk naouri (bonoi@d142-59-238-42.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 05:59.35 | agave-txlink | well for me configs don't really need to be realtime anyway |
| 05:59.39 | j_vianna | agave-txlink: I need good international rates for Latin-America and Europe, do you know someone ? |
| 05:59.44 | agave-txlink | except for the pbx part |
| 05:59.53 | agave-txlink | j_vianna: 3U Telecom is pretty good. I don't do any international myself |
| 05:59.58 | syslod | Me either I like to edit and publish rather than do things realtime on configs. |
| 06:00.25 | agave-txlink | if i were creating some kind of pbx product i'd want to do realtime though.. customer self-provision is hot right now |
| 06:00.31 | Pkunk | i have busycount=6 in zapata.conf |
| 06:00.31 | agave-txlink | but thank $DIETY I'm not in that business |
| 06:00.42 | agave-txlink | DEITY |
| 06:00.43 | agave-txlink | rather |
| 06:00.48 | syslod | In our OSS application you can choose interactive and batch. Its all stored in LDAP and upon batch or interactive update it just spits out a file and reloads. |
| 06:00.53 | Pkunk | and if i dial 7 dtmf's then my line gets disconnected |
| 06:01.22 | Pkunk | i have to space out the dtmf's at with least one second gaps .. |
| 06:01.35 | Pkunk | so what is the problem ? |
| 06:02.12 | syslod | Yea thats what I am talking about. Realtime to me is the system is using that DB for operations. Non-Realtime but still able to selfprovison is batch type operation. |
| 06:02.31 | Pkunk | this problem wasn't there with 1 year old cvs install |
| 06:02.48 | Pkunk | i upgraded just yesterday and this problem popped up out of nowhere |
| 06:03.58 | syslod | agave: We are doing self-provisioning using LDAP storage, a publish application, and OSS interface. Takes liek 1 or 2 sec to add any account. Even have XML for poly and grandstream built in. |
| 06:04.55 | inticonnet | when i dont use * and go straight out thru fwd I do get audio comming back in!? |
| 06:04.58 | Pkunk | so is my problem .. there with the zaptel driver ? |
| 06:05.04 | inticonnet | What does that mean |
| 06:05.06 | inticonnet | ? |
| 06:05.06 | Pkunk | or with asterisk itself ? |
| 06:06.49 | terrapen | i've never gotten up the nerve to learn LDAP |
| 06:07.02 | terrapen | been doing *nix for 12 years and still have yet to mess with it |
| 06:07.15 | syslod | LDAP is good at storing config data like * has where you have contexts and stuff. |
| 06:07.41 | terrapen | what is the advantage of LDAP over a traditional SQL DB? |
| 06:07.53 | ManxPower | I would just be happy for LDAP to store user speccific settings |
| 06:08.37 | agave-txlink | wow.. no love for sixtel/iax.cc |
| 06:08.38 | syslod | Its object oriented. Its very fast a reading. An the code, at least for the 12 developers here, is easier to write and maintance since the DB matches the data. |
| 06:09.22 | terrapen | holy shit |
| 06:09.30 | terrapen | Hunter S. Thompson committed suicide |
| 06:10.15 | agave-txlink | no wonder ManxPower won't buy from ITSPss |
| 06:10.16 | agave-txlink | hehhheh |
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| 06:12.30 | WildPikachu | terrapen, its optimized for read queries |
| 06:15.35 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, LOL! |
| 06:17.05 | agave-txlink | seriously, i saw bitches about iax.cc/livevoip/voicepulse and voipjet all in about five days worth of archives |
| 06:17.45 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, I won't use VoipJet based on some nasty comments they made about other ITSPs in on asterisk-biz |
| 06:18.09 | Qwell | ~itsp |
| 06:18.34 | agave-txlink | yeah I remember that thread |
| 06:18.35 | Qwell | oh, silly me |
| 06:18.36 | ManxPower | jbot, ITSP is Internet Telephonny Service Provider. An ITSP is a "VoIP Phone Company" |
| 06:18.37 | jbot | ManxPower: okay |
| 06:19.04 | Qwell | ManxPower: got an extra n in telephony there |
| 06:19.08 | agave-txlink | ~itsp |
| 06:19.09 | jbot | itsp is, like, Internet Telephonny Service Provider. An ITSP is a "VoIP Phone Company" |
| 06:19.13 | agave-txlink | lol |
| 06:19.14 | agave-txlink | cool |
| 06:19.15 | ManxPower | jbot, ITSP is Internet Telephony Service Provider. An ITSP is a "VoIP Phone Company" |
| 06:19.16 | jbot | ...but itsp is already something else... |
| 06:19.16 | agave-txlink | ~mou |
| 06:19.21 | ManxPower | jbot, no ITSP is Internet Telephony Service Provider. An ITSP is a "VoIP Phone Company" |
| 06:19.22 | jbot | ManxPower: okay |
| 06:19.33 | ManxPower | ~itsp |
| 06:19.34 | jbot | itsp is, like, Internet Telephony Service Provider. An ITSP is a "VoIP Phone Company" |
| 06:19.45 | agave-txlink | ~CLEC |
| 06:19.47 | jbot | it has been said that clec is Competitive Local Exchange Carrier. The OTHER phone company. ;) |
| 06:20.07 | agave-txlink | ~TxLink |
| 06:20.56 | *** join/#asterisk santiago (~santiago@63.245.86.121) |
| 06:21.24 | terrapen | agave, do you work for txlink |
| 06:21.32 | agave-txlink | yes. |
| 06:22.00 | ManxPower | WOW! Bellcore was bought by SAIC and renamed Telcordia. |
| 06:22.31 | agave-txlink | terrapen: yes, why? |
| 06:22.37 | ManxPower | I always thought SAIC was the public company the hid USA govt secret research projects and used their consulting services to fund them. |
| 06:22.47 | terrapen | just curious. |
| 06:22.50 | agave-txlink | telcordia runs like a govnt. agency now |
| 06:22.53 | agave-txlink | i wouldn't be surprised |
| 06:23.06 | agave-txlink | san antonio ? |
| 06:23.09 | terrapen | yep |
| 06:23.19 | agave-txlink | ah, we're based in dallas |
| 06:23.23 | terrapen | yeah |
| 06:23.24 | agave-txlink | we do have facilities in satx however |
| 06:23.32 | terrapen | 100 Taylor? |
| 06:23.41 | agave-txlink | not sure to be honest |
| 06:23.55 | agave-txlink | i deal mainly with dal, lax, and nyc |
| 06:23.56 | terrapen | do you terminate calls there? |
| 06:24.01 | terrapen | (SAT)? |
| 06:24.02 | *** join/#asterisk B4 (~B4@202.69.48.245) |
| 06:24.03 | agave-txlink | yes, we term and orig. from satx |
| 06:24.05 | inticonnet | I think Ive been quiet for too long :) RAAAA DAMN FWD..Im over it :) |
| 06:24.17 | ManxPower | ~acd |
| 06:24.18 | jbot | i heard acd is A specialized phone system that handles incoming calls or makes outgoing calls. An ACD can recognize and answer an incoming call, look in its database for instructions on what to do with that call, play a recorded message for the caller (based on instructions from the database), and send the caller to a live operator as soon as the operator is free ... |
| 06:24.23 | B4 | ~seen zx81 |
| 06:24.35 | jbot | zx81 <matt@222-153-114-115.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 17h 48m 23s ago, saying: 'ok brb~'. |
| 06:24.35 | *** join/#asterisk eipi (~eipi@40-142-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 06:24.50 | Qwell | Thats one hell of a "brb" |
| 06:24.58 | inticonnet | :P |
| 06:25.08 | B4 | lol |
| 06:25.15 | terrapen | ~TDM |
| 06:25.34 | agave-txlink | Time Division Multiplexing |
| 06:25.36 | B4 | time domain multiplexing :) |
| 06:25.42 | B4 | oops division right |
| 06:26.08 | Qwell | Thats just as foreign, heh |
| 06:26.13 | ManxPower | ~clec |
| 06:26.14 | jbot | clec is probably Competitive Local Exchange Carrier. The OTHER phone company. ;) |
| 06:26.22 | Inv_arp | how would i set up hold for the HT 486 .. do i setup a key sequence for putting someone on MOH? |
| 06:26.31 | ManxPower | ~clec |
| 06:26.32 | jbot | [clec] Created by the Telecommunications Act of 1996, a CLEC is a service provider that is in direct competition with an incumbent service provider. CLEC is often used as a general term for any competitor, but the term actually has legal implications. To become a CLEC, a service provider must be granted "CLEC status" by a state's Public Utilities Commission. In ... |
| 06:26.52 | Qwell | In ... ? |
| 06:27.01 | agave-txlink | ran out of buffer it seems |
| 06:27.19 | ManxPower | yeah. |
| 06:28.03 | inticonnet | Guys should my extension ring for sip:2000@externalip |
| 06:28.12 | *** part/#asterisk rett (~rett@c-67-171-236-169.client.comcast.net) |
| 06:28.54 | Qwell | ~ilec |
| 06:29.38 | Qwell | either I'm lagging, or he doesn't know |
| 06:29.46 | agave-txlink | inticonnect: depending on how you have your contexts set up, possibly |
| 06:29.55 | ManxPower | ~ilec |
| 06:29.56 | jbot | i heard ilec is Typically the carrier that was granted the right to provide service as a result of the breakup of AT&T. These providers are also referred to as RBOCs (Regional Bell Operating Companies) or Baby Bells. |
| 06:30.10 | agave-txlink | well, that definition can be wrong |
| 06:30.13 | agave-txlink | centurytel is an ilec |
| 06:30.17 | agave-txlink | they are not an RBOC nor a baby bell |
| 06:30.25 | agave-txlink | see also : valor |
| 06:30.29 | agave-txlink | et. al |
| 06:30.35 | inticonnet | Im having huge problems here :( |
| 06:30.36 | bkw_ | centrytel is not an ilec are they? |
| 06:30.40 | bkw_ | I thought they were a clec |
| 06:30.40 | agave-txlink | yes they sure are |
| 06:30.40 | ManxPower | TYPICALLY |
| 06:30.50 | agave-txlink | no, they are incumbent in arkansas, missouri, and others |
| 06:31.00 | agave-txlink | citizens is also an IL |
| 06:31.01 | agave-txlink | EC |
| 06:31.16 | agave-txlink | and it possible to be an ILEC and CLEC, such as SC Telcom in kansas |
| 06:31.23 | bkw_ | bet they are |
| 06:31.51 | Qwell | Does anybody know of a GOOD explanation of what has happened with the Bells in the last x(20?) years? |
| 06:31.58 | agave-txlink | i could tell you |
| 06:31.58 | agave-txlink | heh |
| 06:32.01 | agave-txlink | the cliff's notes |
| 06:32.20 | inticonnet | if i call inwards from outside of my network (Eg. sip:2000@220.233.68.118) my laptop rings. Which has nothing to do with asterisk |
| 06:32.20 | Qwell | like, who bought who, etc...the long drawn out details |
| 06:32.20 | bkw_ | qwell they ripped off alot of people |
| 06:32.20 | bkw_ | and now are gonna get bigger |
| 06:32.21 | agave-txlink | 1984 - divesture -- judge splits ATT into several regional carriers like southwestern bell, bell atlantic, nynex, mountain bell, etc. |
| 06:32.22 | Qwell | heh |
| 06:32.22 | bkw_ | and more unstopable |
| 06:32.25 | agave-txlink | creates LATAs |
| 06:32.31 | Qwell | bkw_: Thats kinda what I figured |
| 06:32.33 | agave-txlink | 1996 --telecom act creates clecs |
| 06:32.42 | Qwell | So, it was all called "AT&T"? |
| 06:32.50 | agave-txlink | mergers start happening --- ameritech + southwestern bell = sbc |
| 06:32.53 | ManxPower | Qwell, The govt broke up AT&T into many different companies, they all ran around confizzled for a few years, then the govt forced them to stop locking out competition, currently they are all i the process of merging back into 1 company. |
| 06:32.56 | agave-txlink | nynex + bell atlantic + verizon = verizon |
| 06:32.56 | Qwell | Besides from the name Alexander Graham Bell, where did "Bell" come from? |
| 06:33.13 | bkw_ | agave-txlink, its just gonna get worse |
| 06:33.18 | bkw_ | we have ATT+SBC |
| 06:33.18 | agave-txlink | yeah |
| 06:33.22 | agave-txlink | VZ+MCI |
| 06:33.25 | bkw_ | MCI+VZ |
| 06:33.33 | agave-txlink | sprint and level3 will be bought soon |
| 06:33.35 | bkw_ | == BAD TIME |
| 06:33.40 | Qwell | So, let me get this straight... |
| 06:33.47 | bkw_ | the bells are getting bigger |
| 06:33.52 | Qwell | every damn "major" teleco I've ever heard of, are... |
| 06:33.52 | Qwell | now Bell? heh |
| 06:33.55 | bkw_ | right under the nose of the regulators |
| 06:34.08 | bkw_ | SBC is evil |
| 06:34.10 | Qwell | how? |
| 06:34.10 | inticonnet | One of ur largest data providers here in australia recently went into administration and was bought out.... |
| 06:34.15 | bkw_ | the most crooked company on this planet |
| 06:34.22 | bkw_ | very anti conpetitive |
| 06:34.26 | bkw_ | er com |
| 06:34.31 | agave-txlink | bkw speaks da "troof" |
| 06:34.31 | bkw_ | they are not right |
| 06:34.37 | bkw_ | I tell ya EVIL |
| 06:34.39 | bkw_ | to the CORE |
| 06:34.43 | bkw_ | they lie |
| 06:34.45 | bkw_ | they cheat |
| 06:34.49 | Qwell | How are they able to do all these mergers with each other? |
| 06:34.50 | bkw_ | I have caught them |
| 06:35.00 | bkw_ | Qwell nobody is paying attention |
| 06:35.05 | Qwell | if its obvious to ME... |
| 06:35.12 | Qwell | it should be damn obvious to them |
| 06:35.13 | bkw_ | see |
| 06:35.20 | bkw_ | everyone is busy fighting terror |
| 06:35.21 | ManxPower | Qwell, These days "Bell" is not a correct term, but people use it to mean "The ILEC" |
| 06:35.31 | terrapen | can you reliably run two TDM400P cards in a single system>? |
| 06:35.40 | Qwell | ManxPower: Where did the name "Bell" come from, if it was ATT? |
| 06:35.44 | agave-txlink | our telecom system is shit |
| 06:35.45 | agave-txlink | in the US |
| 06:35.45 | bkw_ | shoudl be able to |
| 06:35.49 | terrapen | bkw, tell us how you really feel. :) |
| 06:35.55 | bkw_ | agave-txlink, so i sour health care system |
| 06:36.06 | bkw_ | they hold your health hostage |
| 06:36.06 | terrapen | <bkw_> shoudl be able to |
| 06:36.08 | inticonnet | U guys are sort of lucky with ur multiple provders. We only have 2 country wide, one of which feeds off the others network. There are of corse smaller "resellers" but yeah. Only 1 real provider |
| 06:36.10 | Qwell | see, this is why I want the long explanation, to see how everything is working |
| 06:36.12 | terrapen | was that directed at me? |
| 06:36.22 | ManxPower | Qwell, Even though they were owned by AT&T the ILECs were still called Michigan Bell, Illinois Bell, etc. |
| 06:36.27 | bkw_ | terrapen, yes |
| 06:36.28 | Qwell | the AT&T split almost predates me, heh |
| 06:36.29 | Qwell | ahh |
| 06:36.32 | terrapen | bkw: k, thx |
| 06:36.39 | Qwell | ManxPower: thank you |
| 06:36.45 | bkw_ | who is terracon? |
| 06:36.49 | bkw_ | is that you terrapen? |
| 06:36.51 | terrapen | i have no idea. |
| 06:36.51 | Qwell | Were they always owned by AT&T? |
| 06:36.51 | terrapen | no |
| 06:36.54 | bkw_ | ok |
| 06:36.57 | terrapen | people always call me terracon |
| 06:36.59 | bkw_ | just anoys me |
| 06:37.00 | agave-txlink | oh well it's still an interesting business |
| 06:37.02 | terrapen | i think its some nick complete script |
| 06:37.08 | agave-txlink | always a new challenge |
| 06:37.08 | agave-txlink | heh |
| 06:37.12 | Qwell | terrapen: You're higher on the nick complete list |
| 06:37.17 | terrapen | i've just gotten used to it :) |
| 06:37.19 | Qwell | you take two tabs ;] |
| 06:37.22 | bkw_ | SBC MUST BE STOPED |
| 06:37.28 | terrapen | hahah |
| 06:37.29 | bkw_ | VZ must be too |
| 06:37.32 | bkw_ | EVIL EVIL EVIL |
| 06:37.43 | terrapen | maybe i should be... |
| 06:37.44 | terrapen | terraben |
| 06:37.46 | *** topic/#asterisk by bkw_ -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || Dev Conf 2PM CST FEB 24th -> IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 || DOWN WITH SBC and VZ |
| 06:37.55 | agave-txlink | BS sucks too |
| 06:37.56 | ManxPower | Qwell, A long time ago there were many, many phone companies, many cities had more than one phone comapny and they refised to talk to each other. It was not uncommon for a household to have service from two phone companies in order to call their friends. |
| 06:37.57 | Qwell | terracon: scroll up a few days |
| 06:38.09 | *** topic/#asterisk by bkw_ -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || Dev Conf 2PM CST FEB 24th -> IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 || ILEC's can suck my ethernet cord! |
| 06:38.10 | ManxPower | Then the govt stepped in and made AT&T out of all the little phone companies. |
| 06:38.14 | Qwell | 2005-02-18 10:52:11 <Qwell> terrapen: Change your nick to terraben, and you'll be first on the nick complete list. :p |
| 06:38.23 | agave-txlink | uh... not entirely true |
| 06:38.26 | terrapen | hahah qwell |
| 06:38.32 | bkw_ | not true boi |
| 06:38.32 | agave-txlink | AT*T gobbled up the little guys by refusing to interconnect with them |
| 06:38.34 | Qwell | terracon: :P |
| 06:38.37 | agave-txlink | forcing them into being bought |
| 06:38.38 | ManxPower | agave-txlink, I'm simmarizing from memory. |
| 06:38.47 | agave-txlink | you're basically right |
| 06:38.47 | terrapen | i'm cool with terracon |
| 06:38.52 | agave-txlink | but really it was ATT not connecting iwth the small guys |
| 06:38.53 | terrapen | even though it makes me look like a fraud |
| 06:39.09 | Qwell | So, where did AT&T come into play to begin with? |
| 06:39.30 | ManxPower | http://www.scte.org/chapters/newengland/reference/Telephony/topic01.htm |
| 06:39.34 | Qwell | I finally figured out where Verizon came from the other day, heh |
| 06:39.40 | ManxPower | http://www.att.com/history/history3.html |
| 06:39.58 | Qwell | ManxPower: will read, thanks |
| 06:40.12 | ManxPower | "A year later, on July 9, 1877, the Bell Telephone Company was formed, and Alexander Graham Bell became the company's "electrician," at a salary of $3,000, and Watson became "superintendent" in charge of research and manufacturing. " |
| 06:41.10 | terrapen | dammit, i just don't get this: |
| 06:41.24 | terrapen | i have a barely-used 100Mbit cnx to my provider's core switch |
| 06:41.37 | terrapen | ping times used to be <1ms *always* |
| 06:41.49 | terrapen | now, for no reason at all, they jump up to 200+ms frequenty |
| 06:41.53 | agave-txlink | terrapen: did you start using ip tableS? |
| 06:41.58 | terrapen | nope :) |
| 06:42.03 | terrapen | using OpenBSD |
| 06:42.22 | agave-txlink | strange |
| 06:42.23 | agave-txlink | well folks |
| 06:42.25 | agave-txlink | i am going to bed |
| 06:42.26 | agave-txlink | the wifey is pissed |
| 06:42.29 | terrapen | night man |
| 06:42.31 | agave-txlink | that i am still on the intarweb |
| 06:42.34 | agave-txlink | at 12:42 AM |
| 06:43.00 | terrapen | hahahaha |
| 06:43.14 | terrapen | my girlfriend hates the sound of the keyboard |
| 06:43.21 | terrapen | "WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO?" |
| 06:43.34 | agave-txlink | heh |
| 06:43.36 | terrapen | she knows when I IRC just by the change in typing noise |
| 06:43.48 | terrapen | and, for some reason, she HATES irc |
| 06:43.53 | terrapen | she thinks im talking with another girl |
| 06:44.20 | ManxPower | terracon, Just tell her you are talking geek talk. Everyone knows there are no girl geeks |
| 06:44.29 | terrapen | hahah |
| 06:44.44 | terrapen | then she does not understand why i would find this more interesting than her |
| 06:44.47 | ManxPower | IMHO any girlfriend that jealous should be an ex-girlfriend, but that's just my opinion. |
| 06:45.03 | terrapen | well...our situation is kind of strange right now |
| 06:45.06 | terrapen | technically we are ex- |
| 06:45.11 | terrapen | but we are still seeing each other |
| 06:45.13 | ManxPower | terracon, She is apparently not being creative enough in getting your attention. 8-) |
| 06:45.20 | terrapen | hahaha |
| 06:45.28 | Qwell | So, how many RBOCs are left then? |
| 06:45.38 | ManxPower | Qwell, three? |
| 06:45.42 | Qwell | This says 4, but that was from 98 |
| 06:45.44 | ManxPower | maybe 4. |
| 06:46.00 | ManxPower | Verizon, SBC, BellSouth. Who else? |
| 06:46.06 | Qwell | Bell Atlantic, NYNEX, BellSouth, Ameritech, U S West, Pacific Telesis, and Southwestern Bell |
| 06:46.12 | Qwell | That was the original list of 7 |
| 06:46.40 | terrapen | what happened to Mountain Bell |
| 06:46.44 | terrapen | was it mountain bell? |
| 06:46.46 | Qwell | Bell Atlantic + GTE = Verizon? |
| 06:46.48 | terrapen | or was it western bell |
| 06:47.01 | modulus_ | who just bought out MCI? |
| 06:47.06 | ManxPower | Qwell, Verizon also includes Nynex and parts of GTE |
| 06:47.12 | Qwell | ahh |
| 06:47.15 | terrapen | qwell, yes |
| 06:47.23 | ManxPower | terracon, Montian benn became Qwest |
| 06:47.27 | terrapen | ah |
| 06:47.57 | ManxPower | They became the first ILEC to really try to fuck people using dry pairs for DSL. |
| 06:48.50 | Qwell | GTE wasn't associated with Bell, was it? |
| 06:49.04 | ManxPower | Qwell, not that I know. |
| 06:49.15 | ManxPower | They were a sort of quasi-independent ILEC. |
| 06:49.24 | ManxPower | I think they were owned by Sprint at one time. |
| 06:50.05 | ManxPower | GTE's internet backbone was sold several times and I think it eventually became part of MCI's network backbone, but I could be wrong. |
| 06:50.25 | Qwell | such an odd history |
| 06:50.43 | ManxPower | The creation of Verizon included the merging of several companies, the breaking up of several companies and the merger of the resulting parts with several other companies. |
| 06:50.56 | Qwell | ...hmm |
| 06:51.02 | ManxPower | GTE was basically disected. |
| 06:51.06 | modulus_ | was it verizon that bought out MCI? |
| 06:51.07 | Qwell | somebody should do a timeline, similar to the UNIX timeline. heh |
| 06:51.19 | ManxPower | modulus_, trying to buy out MCI. |
| 06:51.36 | *** part/#asterisk SuperMMan (~graphic@d209-89-191-155.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 06:51.38 | Inv_arp | is it a good idea to use * format_mp3 for MOH? |
| 06:51.46 | modulus_ | i thought the deal went through for like 6 and some odd bill? |
| 06:51.50 | ManxPower | I think Sprint bought part of GTE as well (the areas Verizon didn't want) |
| 06:52.10 | ManxPower | modulus_, Qwest is not out of the bidding picture yet. |
| 06:52.34 | modulus_ | what's qwest's last bid? |
| 06:52.42 | ManxPower | modulus_, go read news.com |
| 06:52.48 | modulus_ | no |
| 06:52.50 | modulus_ | i refuse |
| 06:53.47 | ManxPower | modulus_, http://news.search.com/search?q=mci+verizon&x=0&y=0 |
| 06:54.39 | ManxPower | Sprint is the only IXC that I know of that isn't a frakensfein of companies. BellSouth is the same, but as the ILEC. |
| 06:56.14 | modulus_ | manx, who do you think will come out with mCI? |
| 06:56.16 | *** join/#asterisk neopher (~crazy@mail.techhelpresources.com) |
| 06:56.30 | JerJer | your mom |
| 06:56.44 | neopher | hello everyone |
| 06:57.02 | ManxPower | modulus_, No idea. |
| 06:57.15 | ManxPower | But I'm sure it will involve a bidding war and lawsuits. |
| 06:57.24 | modulus_ | i didn't know qwest was that big |
| 06:57.32 | modulus_ | mci is no small fry |
| 06:57.44 | neopher | would anyone happen to have firmware for a cisco 30vip |
| 06:57.57 | ManxPower | modulus_, Qwest covers a LARGE area of the USA. Not a high population per sq/mile, but still. |
| 06:58.05 | ManxPower | neopher, yes. |
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| 06:58.33 | modulus_ | hmm |
| 06:58.56 | neopher | sweet, would you please send it, tring to get my 30vip to work with sccp |
| 06:59.10 | JerJer | ahh Qwest, the whore of long distance |
| 06:59.13 | neopher | chan_scccp |
| 06:59.35 | JerJer | can't help you with chan_sccp, but I know my 30vip functions using chan_skinny |
| 07:00.01 | ManxPower | neopher, No I will not send it. |
| 07:00.11 | ManxPower | neopher, That's like asking for a MS Office license key. |
| 07:00.14 | neopher | cool, can't get mine to work for eaither, i found out i have an old firmware image |
| 07:00.20 | ManxPower | Cisco wants to charge for firmware. |
| 07:00.54 | neopher | hmm, it's EOL and it is not on cisco's site anymore |
| 07:01.12 | ManxPower | neopher, you have a CCO account that allows you to download firmware? |
| 07:01.45 | neopher | but i understand, np, i'll have to email my rep there and see if they still have it |
| 07:02.39 | neopher | i know my cisco account allows me to get IOS for router, so i probobly could |
| 07:02.55 | JerJer | download a CCM executable and unpack it |
| 07:03.04 | JerJer | manually |
| 07:03.12 | JerJer | then poke around for a 30vip firmware bin |
| 07:03.48 | neopher | hmm, call manager has it in there? |
| 07:03.52 | JerJer | yes |
| 07:04.00 | JerJer | call munger is why SCCP exists |
| 07:04.25 | JerJer | or find a friendly lamer that owns a CCM |
| 07:04.34 | neopher | didn't know they had 30 vip firmware in there anymore, i'll go unpak |
| 07:05.05 | JerJer | last i knew ccm still supported the 30vip's |
| 07:05.09 | terrapen | do you have to renew a CCO account every year? |
| 07:05.09 | neopher | tnx again |
| 07:05.11 | JerJer | and 12sp+ |
| 07:05.14 | terrapen | because i had one long ago |
| 07:05.17 | terrapen | mayeb it still works |
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| 07:09.45 | ManxPower | ~rtp |
| 07:09.46 | jbot | [rtp] The Internet-standard protocol for the transport of real-time data, including audio and video. RTP is used in virtually all voice-over-IP architectures, for videoconferencing, media-on-demand, and other applications. A thin protocol, it supports content identification, timing reconstruction, and detection of lost packets. |
| 07:09.48 | *** join/#asterisk DHuang (~DHuang@adsl-102-99.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 07:09.56 | Poincare | Good morning |
| 07:10.00 | DHuang | morning... |
| 07:10.07 | neopher | gmorn |
| 07:10.41 | DHuang | just wondeing if asterisk can convert difference codec on SIP connection? ie. 1 SIP on iLIBC and 1 SIP on GSM? |
| 07:11.18 | ManxPower | DHuang, Yes. It does so by default. |
| 07:12.26 | DHuang | ManxPower: I see. but I got this error msg.. channel.c:1734 ast_set_write_format: Unable to find a path from g729 to ilbc (I have g729 license installed) |
| 07:13.47 | ManxPower | DHuang, What is the output of "show g729" |
| 07:14.45 | Inv_arp | anyone use the * addon for MOH? |
| 07:15.35 | DHuang | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.49 | ManxPower | DHuang, that is NOT the output of "show g729" |
| 07:15.51 | *** part/#asterisk santiago (~santiago@63.245.86.121) |
| 07:16.12 | DHuang | ManxPower: No such command 'show g729' (type 'help' for help) |
| 07:16.18 | neopher | i'm using music on hold |
| 07:16.22 | ManxPower | DHuang, then you do NOT have the codec installed. |
| 07:16.35 | ManxPower | Even if show codecs shows it. It will show it without the codec being installed. |
| 07:16.49 | DHuang | Oh.. :-( but I can get 2 x g729 SIP running.. |
| 07:17.04 | ScythelX | prolly because your phones support it |
| 07:17.05 | ManxPower | DHuang, that's because Asterisk is just passing thru the data. |
| 07:17.17 | DHuang | ManxPower: how to install or make sure it's installed? |
| 07:17.20 | ManxPower | DHuang, If this is a very old asterisk install maybe you have the old voiceage codec. |
| 07:17.48 | ManxPower | DHuang, "show modules" should show a codec_g729.so or something similar. format_g729.so does NOT mean you have a codec installed. |
| 07:17.49 | DHuang | ManxPower: It's new install, from the CVS |
| 07:18.27 | ManxPower | voip-1*CLI> show g729 |
| 07:18.27 | ManxPower | 0/0 encoders/decoders of 10 licensed channels are currently in use |
| 07:18.34 | {zombie} | DHuang: you need to purchase a g729 license then |
| 07:18.49 | {zombie} | it is restricted by patents, you have to pay royalties to use it |
| 07:18.51 | DHuang | ManxPower: format_g729.so Raw G729 data only... Ok, I'll check the installation and check the .so file |
| 07:18.56 | ManxPower | "show codecs" will have |
| 07:18.58 | ManxPower | codec_g729a.so Annex A/B (floating point) G.729/PCM16 C 0 |
| 07:19.10 | DHuang | zombie: Yes, I bought 10 license from digium |
| 07:19.14 | ManxPower | DHuang, You are not using the pirate codec, are you? |
| 07:19.42 | pascals | Good morning |
| 07:19.46 | DHuang | ManxPower: no not pirate code, ran the register from digium and everthing is fine... |
| 07:19.56 | ManxPower | DHuang, Didn't I just say that format_g729.so does NOT indicate you have the codec installed? |
| 07:20.20 | ManxPower | sorry, "show modules" will have "codec_g729a.so Annex A/B (floating point) G.729/PCM16 C 0" |
| 07:20.22 | DHuang | ManxPower: Thanks.. now I think where to look for now.... ie. put the .so from digirum site to the modules |
| 07:20.26 | inticonnet | Argh comming from a pbx backgrpund setting up a queue and setting up moh is all good but Im now trying to make an emergancy call to our isp and it just plain sucks |
| 07:21.13 | pascals | I think I have a codec problem: I can answer an ISDN call with an IAX2 softphone, but I have no audio when firefly->*->misdn calls out |
| 07:23.02 | DHuang | ManxPower: Thanks... got ti working now.. :-) |
| 07:23.10 | ManxPower | DHuang, what was the problem? |
| 07:23.30 | DHuang | ManxPower: the .so file is corrupted... replace with http://www.digium.com/downloads/ftp/asterisk/g729/glibc_2_3/pentium4/codec_g729a.so |
| 07:24.39 | pascals | The odd thing, to me anyway, is that sound quality is superb for incomming calls, but absolutely nothing happens for outgoing calls... |
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| 07:29.07 | ManxPower | I really hope I can take a nap in the morning. |
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| 07:30.16 | shido6 | no naps |
| 07:31.05 | ManxPower | Whips are fun! |
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| 07:31.39 | ManxPower | catbert.org? Cool |
| 07:31.42 | troniz | :) |
| 07:31.45 | Inv_arp | pascals: same provider for outgoing? any errors in console |
| 07:31.48 | troniz | also have evilphb.org too |
| 07:31.52 | troniz | dilbert theme obviously ;) |
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| 07:32.08 | rodizump_ | hi everyone |
| 07:32.27 | neopher | hello |
| 07:32.37 | rodizump_ | does anybody know how to restrict the total amount of calls asterisk box can accept ? |
| 07:32.57 | troniz | decided to check out asterisk some more after reading a great article on it in SAGE's ;login: magazine for this month |
| 07:33.33 | rodizump_ | i want to set a limit of say 60 incoming SIP channels max per box |
| 07:34.47 | JerJer | rodizump_: Group |
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| 07:36.02 | JerJer | show application SetGroup |
| 07:36.40 | rodizump_ | after the channel hangs up, does the group counter decrement automatically ? when setgroup()/chekcgroup() is used in dialplan ? |
| 07:37.55 | rodizump_ | did anybody successfully used checkgroup/setgroup with asterisk ? |
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| 07:42.10 | JerJer | i see that Willie is talkin Bio-Diesel now... hell yeah good stuff |
| 07:46.09 | terrapen | williw is talking bio-diesel? |
| 07:46.13 | terrapen | err willie |
| 07:47.00 | terrapen | i wonder if the Honeysuckle Rose runs bio-diesel now |
| 07:50.45 | JerJer | is that is bus? yes! |
| 07:50.51 | JerJer | his |
| 07:53.40 | terrapen | yeah |
| 07:53.46 | terrapen | Honeysuckle Rose |
| 07:53.52 | terrapen | and Rooster drove/drives it |
| 07:53.56 | terrapen | i've met Rooster |
| 07:54.05 | terrapen | he lives in Bandera, where I used to live |
| 07:54.21 | JerJer | CBS Evening Snews did a report on his quest the other week |
| 07:55.06 | ManxPower | I believe Willie Nelson is the father of Melissa Ethridge. |
| 07:55.16 | ManxPower | let's try that again |
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| 07:55.22 | ManxPower | I believe Willie Nelson is the father of Melissa Ethridge's CHILD. |
| 07:55.25 | terrapen | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826994/ |
| 07:55.48 | terrapen | hahah, i've been to Carl's Corner Truckstop |
| 07:56.21 | terrapen | best quote ever |
| 07:56.28 | Qwell | ManxPower: I think it was somebody else...I saw it on TV the other day |
| 07:56.28 | terrapen | i just wish i could remember who said it |
| 07:56.50 | terrapen | "Willie Nelson was busted in Laredo, TX last week for possession of a small amount of marijuana." |
| 07:56.51 | ManxPower | Qwell, I saw it on VH-1 so it must be true! |
| 07:57.15 | terrapen | "His lawyers are fighting the charge, contending that the police did not have probable cause to search his motel room." |
| 07:57.20 | modulus_ | vh-1 is fact |
| 07:57.23 | ManxPower | Any cop that busts Willie Nelson for posession of pot is just a plain old asshole. |
| 07:57.33 | terrapen | "Probably cause?!?!? How about, "HE'S WILLIE NELSON"" |
| 07:57.42 | terrapen | err probable |
| 07:57.51 | terrapen | that was david letterman or jay leno or someone |
| 07:57.58 | modulus_ | new gaim |
| 07:57.59 | modulus_ | 112 |
| 07:58.02 | Qwell | ManxPower: It was David Crosby, heh |
| 07:58.03 | modulus_ | err 1.1.3 |
| 07:58.10 | terrapen | Willie Nelson is just about as american as it gets |
| 07:58.14 | ManxPower | Qwell, HMM? Are you sure? |
| 07:58.15 | modulus_ | sundays are my weekly cvsup and portupgrade |
| 07:58.18 | Qwell | yeah |
| 07:58.20 | terrapen | it will be a very, very sad day when he dies |
| 07:58.39 | Qwell | ManxPower: http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12040513 |
| 07:59.12 | terrapen | “I got on the computer and punched in biodiesel and found out this could be the future,†said Nelson, who now uses the fuel for his cars and tour buses. |
| 07:59.24 | ManxPower | Qwell, Thanks! |
| 07:59.40 | Qwell | saw it on...umm...VH1. :p |
| 07:59.46 | Qwell | I love the 90s? |
| 08:00.00 | Qwell | I forget |
| 08:00.15 | ManxPower | Qwell, The show was a show about gay/lesbian rock stars. |
| 08:00.25 | Qwell | sounds familiar |
| 08:00.28 | ManxPower | I think I have it on tape somewhere. |
| 08:00.44 | Qwell | dunno, just saw it a few days/weeks ago |
| 08:00.50 | Qwell | days, I think... |
| 08:00.55 | terrapen | http://www.wnbiodiesel.com/Willie%20Nelson.jpg |
| 08:00.55 | Qwell | anyhow, off to bed |
| 08:00.57 | ManxPower | sex and popular culture / sex and history facinates me. |
| 08:01.28 | Qwell | s/ and .*int/ int/g |
| 08:01.28 | terrapen | i saw this band last night, Cooder Graw, and they had a great song with the chorus: |
| 08:01.40 | Qwell | s/int/faci/g |
| 08:01.45 | terrapen | "Don't wanna be famous...or be a star...I just want my name on Willie's guitar" |
| 08:06.30 | ManxPower | The show "Sex at 24 Frames Per Second" is a very good one. |
| 08:06.45 | ManxPower | Traces the media. |
| 08:07.43 | pascals | I'm having trouble connecting to pstn phones using isdn, can anyone help? |
| 08:08.02 | pascals | I can make the call, but no audio. |
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| 08:08.15 | pascals | Incomming calls work flawlessly. |
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| 08:10.29 | trym | rtp issues? |
| 08:10.47 | trym | or is there no sip/rtp involved? |
| 08:10.55 | pascals | iax2 clients |
| 08:11.27 | pascals | and sip alike, although with sip clients, * keeps complaining about rtp problems |
| 08:11.56 | pascals | So I suspect recode problems, or something. |
| 08:12.43 | pascals | I've tried forcing everything to alaw, which I gather is what ISDN uses. |
| 08:13.27 | ManxPower | pascals, ISDN in the CA/USA use ulaw, but most other places use alaw. |
| 08:13.41 | pascals | I am in Euroland. Netherlands |
| 08:15.07 | ManxPower | pascals, or as I like to call it "alaw land |
| 08:15.22 | pascals | :) |
| 08:17.03 | pascals | Can it be that recoding isn't working? |
| 08:18.16 | pascals | The softphone itself is working, I can call another softphone, talk, run the * echotest, etc. |
| 08:18.34 | ManxPower | This is the time of night that I stop helping people and simply wax philosophically about various topics. |
| 08:19.34 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 08:19.35 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 08:19.50 | pascals | Yes, I know all those |
| 08:20.00 | ManxPower | look for NAT related stuff, and codec related stuff. |
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| 08:21.41 | DHuang | ManxPower: Do you know how to check if the voicemail is connected to the SQL? |
| 08:22.17 | ManxPower | DHuang, That's a CVS-HEAD only thing. I won't know anything about it until I start using the next stable release of Asterisk |
| 08:22.49 | DHuang | ManxPower: I see.. thanks.. ;-) |
| 08:23.59 | visik7 | is there something to use * as a video-entryphone, I would like to replace my home PBX with * but my home pbx has 3 video entryphone and 2 external camera |
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| 08:27.02 | Firestrm | hello.. |
| 08:28.16 | Firestrm | is it me and my bad luck, or are sipura adaptors total crap? |
| 08:28.41 | Firestrm | i cant get the $#)@#@_#(! thing to work properly.. |
| 08:30.04 | JerJer | sipura's are pretty damn good for being SIP devices |
| 08:30.23 | Firestrm | the dang PSTN portion of the thing echos's badly |
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| 08:31.00 | Firestrm | the fxs-> sip works great.. but the sip->PSTN protion blows |
| 08:31.38 | Firestrm | ive tried everything i can think of.. still bad audio on pstn.. |
| 08:32.37 | Firestrm | i was thinking of using them for a project to bring in remote 1B lines, but im glad i tested one first.. that would have been an embarrasing and expensive mistake.. |
| 08:33.41 | Firestrm | and Sipura tech support had been less than useful.. they wont even answer my emails.. |
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| 08:56.38 | DEVILoper | Hi All |
| 08:56.52 | inticonnet | wats with the sudden influx of people :P |
| 08:57.24 | Firestrm | nobody here but us lurkers ;) |
| 08:57.33 | DEVILoper | My Zaptel Card unable to detect call hangups. any help ?? |
| 08:57.42 | JerJer | show processlist; in the mysql shell |
| 08:57.59 | md99 | can someone tell me what txgain and rxgain in capi.conf mean - mine by default is 0.8 which is a unit of something? |
| 08:57.59 | DEVILoper | ZAptel=FXO |
| 08:58.19 | Firestrm | DEVILoper, i have the same problem.. in my case, ive tracked it down to how my telco provider handles hangup notification |
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| 08:59.25 | DEVILoper | is there any way to check what signalling is provided by Telco (Kewl start,loop start or Ground start ??) |
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| 09:01.04 | Firestrm | DEVILoper, Use Kewl, i have yet to see a case where loop or ground makes a difference.. some telco's will be nice and provide a polarity reverse at hangup, which zap will detect, but in most cases telco responds to hangup by removing loop power after 30 sec or so.. not good for us.. |
| 09:01.59 | Firestrm | DEVILoper, its not even ZAP in this case, my P.O.S SPA-3000 reponds exactly the same way.. |
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| 09:04.13 | JerJer | Firestrm: read http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Sipura+3000 |
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| 09:06.05 | DEVILoper | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-pagehistory.php?page=Asterisk+Disconnect+Supervision&diff=3 right now readng this article |
| 09:06.16 | DEVILoper | helpful i hope so |
| 09:07.16 | Firestrm | JerJer, thats the document i used to set up it up in the first place, its working, but the audio quality on incoming calls to the PSTN interface it terrable.. low level audio, echo, hard to understand.. |
| 09:07.22 | terrapen | holy shit |
| 09:07.31 | terrapen | sure is late |
| 09:07.35 | modulus_ | yup |
| 09:07.37 | modulus_ | 1.07am here |
| 09:07.44 | modulus_ | imma bout to hit the pool hall |
| 09:07.44 | terrapen | 3:07 |
| 09:07.48 | terrapen | and i have work in the morning |
| 09:07.52 | modulus_ | free coffee at pool hall |
| 09:07.53 | terrapen | where r u mod |
| 09:07.56 | modulus_ | LA |
| 09:08.05 | terrapen | ah |
| 09:08.08 | terrapen | pool hall in LA? |
| 09:08.17 | terrapen | never saw much of that when i lived there |
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| 09:08.55 | JerJer | Firestrm: I had the low audio problem until i brought the gains to 0 |
| 09:09.02 | JerJer | they defaulted to -3 db |
| 09:09.04 | modulus_ | terrapen there's lots of pool halls |
| 09:09.13 | terrapen | i lived in pasadena |
| 09:09.17 | terrapen | which is probably my problem |
| 09:09.20 | JerJer | perhaps you have a backwards ring and tip? |
| 09:09.31 | modulus_ | terrapen, nothing in pasadena is open after 6pm |
| 09:09.36 | modulus_ | except gas stations |
| 09:09.36 | terrapen | heh |
| 09:09.39 | terrapen | so true |
| 09:09.42 | modulus_ | manned by iraqis and other middle easterners |
| 09:09.44 | terrapen | it was *miserable* |
| 09:09.54 | terrapen | i really wanted to move back home to texas or to utah |
| 09:09.57 | terrapen | and ended up doing so |
| 09:10.10 | Firestrm | JerJer, tried that.. it helped, but still getting bizzare echo, not there all the time, just occasionally it punches through, like the echocanceller is not working properly or cant lock on. |
| 09:10.11 | modulus_ | i'm downtown |
| 09:10.26 | terrapen | ever go to Antone's (sp?) |
| 09:10.32 | terrapen | home of the french dip sandwich? |
| 09:11.32 | terrapen | wow its humid outside |
| 09:11.33 | terrapen | 95% |
| 09:11.39 | Firestrm | DEVILoper, good link... good general info on disconnect supervision.. unfotunatly my telco doesnt offer it on residential, im im stuffed on the home line.. |
| 09:11.43 | terrapen | thick fog |
| 09:12.19 | Firestrm | we have been getting california weather rather than big dumps of rain we usually get for winter weather.. |
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| 09:14.02 | modulus_ | ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) |
| 09:14.02 | modulus_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.18 | modulus_ | ugh |
| 09:14.22 | modulus_ | stupid mplayer-skins |
| 09:14.22 | Firestrm | yikes.. |
| 09:14.30 | modulus_ | they never maintain the portstree |
| 09:17.17 | modulus_ | i don't even use mplayer-skins |
| 09:17.22 | modulus_ | pkg_deinstall -f |
| 09:19.25 | Delvar | is it morning? |
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| 09:19.46 | Firestrm | it is here.. |
| 09:19.55 | eivindtr | When does morning end? |
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| 09:23.30 | pascals | I'm having trouble connecting to pstn phones using isdn, incomming calls have audio, outgoing calls do not. |
| 09:23.52 | RoyK | pascals: using what sort of hardware? |
| 09:24.04 | pascals | beronet 4port HFC-4S card |
| 09:24.23 | visik7 | pascals capi or zaphfc ? |
| 09:24.28 | pascals | misdn |
| 09:25.00 | RoyK | iirc misdn has several issues |
| 09:25.16 | RoyK | is that a 4port BRI? |
| 09:25.18 | Poincare | better try the zaphfc |
| 09:25.22 | pascals | zaphfc had problems too, with a passive card |
| 09:25.30 | pascals | Yes, 4 port bri |
| 09:25.38 | RoyK | pascals: zaphfc only work on passive BRIs |
| 09:25.44 | pascals | Does that work with the zaphfc driver?!? |
| 09:25.47 | Poincare | if you're using a beronet card better try the zaphfc |
| 09:25.50 | RoyK | it was originally designed for the HFC-PCI driver |
| 09:26.31 | pascals | Ah, didn't know that. |
| 09:26.53 | pascals | I thought zaphfc was for passive cards only |
| 09:27.09 | RoyK | <pascals> zaphfc had problems too, with a passive card |
| 09:27.10 | RoyK | ? |
| 09:27.41 | pascals | I could not dial out with that card, it complained about not being connected or something |
| 09:27.41 | RoyK | pascals: try emailing the list, asking Klaus Peter Junghanns about it |
| 09:28.37 | pascals | The asterisk-users digium list? |
| 09:29.45 | pascals | Ah. bristuff eq zaphfc... I have the zaphfc driver installed... |
| 09:29.54 | pascals | Not in use for this card, though. |
| 09:32.29 | inticonnet | SYSTEM RUNTIME (TASKAGENT9k) |
| 09:32.43 | inticonnet | argh sorry i ran out of mouse cable and had to drop what i was draging :P |
| 09:39.04 | eipi | there's anyway to redir musiconhold to uncompressed audio from /dev/radio? |
| 09:51.11 | pif | hi, can I identify a call coming in from, say, zap/13 in extensions.conf ? what variable should I look at? |
| 09:52.31 | VoIPMasta | Does anyone have some experience with Areski-CC? |
| 09:52.58 | JerJer | lol |
| 09:53.03 | RoyK | never heard of it :) |
| 09:53.12 | JerJer | its on the wiki |
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| 09:53.21 | JerJer | its a joke |
| 09:53.27 | JerJer | i'm just waiting for the punch line |
| 09:53.29 | zoa | i agree with jj |
| 09:53.34 | zoa | punch me too |
| 09:53.37 | VoIPMasta | what's a joke? |
| 09:53.51 | JerJer | Areski-CC |
| 09:53.57 | VoIPMasta | may I ask why? |
| 09:54.11 | JerJer | horible implemenation |
| 09:54.17 | JerJer | half thought through |
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| 09:54.24 | VoIPMasta | which prepaid calling card system would you recommend JerJer? |
| 09:54.32 | JerJer | i am biased |
| 09:54.59 | VoIPMasta | I was trying astcc, developed by Mark, however it doesn't detect hangups |
| 09:55.13 | JerJer | um no |
| 09:55.19 | JerJer | your channel isn't detecting hangups then |
| 09:55.29 | VoIPMasta | any special params to consider? |
| 09:56.32 | VoIPMasta | http://pastebin.ca/6231 <-- There's my zapata.conf |
| 09:59.30 | JerJer | don't depend on analog to always detect a hangup |
| 09:59.38 | JerJer | esp if you are in some crazy country |
| 09:59.44 | VoIPMasta | I'm in Mx |
| 09:59.51 | JerJer | mucho crazy |
| 09:59.59 | VoIPMasta | I know |
| 10:00.05 | VoIPMasta | but how can I detect hangups? |
| 10:01.39 | JerJer | does your telco line have disconnect supervision on it ? |
| 10:02.14 | VoIPMasta | not that I'm aware of |
| 10:02.26 | JerJer | then asterisk will never hang that line up |
| 10:02.30 | JerJer | not just astcc |
| 10:02.48 | JerJer | complain to your telco you need Disconnect supervision on your line |
| 10:03.44 | VoIPMasta | I'm not even entire sure if they offer it here in mx |
| 10:04.00 | qwerp | harlo.. |
| 10:04.22 | qwerp | is there anyway i can block only 15 incoming line on a PRI line? |
| 10:05.43 | eipi | can i integrate sox with musiconhold? |
| 10:06.00 | VoIPMasta | JerJer: I'm just doing some research and it seems like every line here in mexico has disconnect supervision enabled |
| 10:07.10 | pif | phone packed in opium cardboard? |
| 10:11.19 | RoyK | pif: :P |
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| 10:20.08 | ezabi | hi everbody, the usual question, any codec recommendations? |
| 10:20.45 | zoa | grrr |
| 10:20.51 | zoa | there is no best codec |
| 10:21.00 | zoa | there is just a best codec for your situation |
| 10:21.22 | ezabi | i prefer gsm but was told that g723 is best for bandwidth consumption |
| 10:22.25 | ezabi | the point is i should standardize the codec all over the different sites |
| 10:22.54 | zoa | you cannot do g729 |
| 10:22.55 | zoa | euh |
| 10:22.57 | zoa | g723 |
| 10:23.15 | zoa | g723 sounds robotic btw |
| 10:23.55 | RoyK | ezabi: how much bandwidth can you use? |
| 10:23.58 | eye69 | What does DID stand for? |
| 10:24.11 | RoyK | ~did |
| 10:24.12 | jbot | did is, like, Direct Inward Dialing |
| 10:25.31 | ezabi | RoyK: the lesser the better of course because there are some site on rural areas with low bandwidth, as low as 4k |
| 10:25.51 | eye69 | Thanks. |
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| 10:36.29 | RoyK | ezabi: see http://www.newport-networks.com/pages/voip-bandwidth-calculator.html for bandwidth calculation |
| 10:37.01 | RoyK | ezabi: you don't get any lower than around 20kbps full duplex with asterisk |
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| 10:46.13 | jofa | i'm using an old dial-plan with a newer asterisk. It now spontaniously jumps into the h(angup) extension right after a goto, did something change there recently? |
| 10:46.25 | jofa | it does this on sip zap and capi channels :-/ |
| 10:48.34 | ezabi | RoyK: thx |
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| 10:54.20 | [ro]nic3try | re all |
| 10:55.21 | [ro]nic3try | how do I set a maximum number of calls that asterisk will handle ? |
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| 10:56.38 | goof | in etentions this used to work before: "exten => _096.,1,Dial,Zap/g1/75${EXTEN}|20" , but now it does not. Any idea |
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| 10:59.15 | doolph | hello |
| 10:59.34 | doolph | anyone know how to setup a E1 to terminate minutes |
| 11:00.01 | tessier | doolph: That's like asking if anyone knows how to build a nuclear powered aircraft carrier |
| 11:00.12 | tessier | The answer is yes, but it is not going to be explained to you today over IRC |
| 11:00.31 | doolph | heh |
| 11:00.36 | doolph | is that too complicated? |
| 11:00.50 | tessier | I assume you want to bill for these minutes? |
| 11:00.53 | doolph | i though it was buy some hardwards and set it ups |
| 11:01.02 | jofa | does asterisk (cvs) build with gcc 2.95.4? or does it require a 3? |
| 11:01.05 | doolph | really it is not necesary |
| 11:01.20 | tessier | Asterisk based business plan: 1. buy hardware 2. set it up 3. ??? 4. PROFIT! |
| 11:01.21 | doolph | because i will have an external billing server |
| 11:01.37 | doolph | well tell me what do i need |
| 11:01.41 | [ro]nic3try | how do I set a maximum number of calls that asterisk will handle ? |
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| 11:02.08 | JerJer | show application SetGroup |
| 11:02.20 | JerJer | 1 Sell T1 Boards |
| 11:02.26 | JerJer | 2 ???? |
| 11:02.32 | JerJer | 3 take over the world |
| 11:02.33 | doolph | JerJer? |
| 11:02.41 | doolph | to who |
| 11:03.02 | Slothbag_ | can anyone help with a relatively easy public asterisk/nat'ed clients setup?? |
| 11:03.19 | JerJer | using IAX, it is painless |
| 11:03.35 | Slothbag_ | clients are budgetone 100's |
| 11:03.37 | Slothbag_ | :( |
| 11:03.45 | ezabi | IAX is best behind nat |
| 11:03.49 | JerJer | prepare for heartburn and hairloss |
| 11:04.14 | jofa | slothbag: just make sure * is not natted, it works fine here.. |
| 11:04.18 | ezabi | for budgetone u usualy have to provide a public stun |
| 11:04.31 | JerJer | and in extreeme cases, diarrhea |
| 11:04.40 | JerJer | ezabi: um no |
| 11:04.43 | JerJer | stun is a joke |
| 11:04.54 | JerJer | tell the device to process nat |
| 11:05.00 | Slothbag_ | my asterisk is not natted.. but the budgetone is behind a nasty unconfigurable NAT firewall |
| 11:05.15 | JerJer | set nat=yes in the approprate spot in sip.conf |
| 11:05.20 | Slothbag_ | it can register etc, but no audio makes it |
| 11:05.28 | JerJer | and register |
| 11:05.55 | ezabi | JerJer: still even i configured the device for natting, i used the vovida public stun and it worked fine |
| 11:06.10 | doolph | what can i do with |
| 11:06.11 | doolph | Digium Wildcard E100P - Single E1 PCI card - SIP IAX H.323 Asterisk |
| 11:06.12 | Mike_TK | Slothbag_: Maybe you have some 'smart' sip aware box between? |
| 11:06.29 | JerJer | Mike_TK: no need |
| 11:06.37 | JerJer | just a stateful router |
| 11:06.52 | ezabi | with sip behind nat the problem is usualy with rtp |
| 11:06.53 | JerJer | which any even semi-current device can do |
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| 11:07.07 | JerJer | ezabi: nat=yes minimizes this problem |
| 11:07.09 | Slothbag_ | i was thinking just install a SIP proxy like SER on the asterisk machine |
| 11:07.25 | JerJer | and registering keeps the udp path thru the NAT open |
| 11:07.57 | Slothbag_ | similar to how FWD do it |
| 11:07.58 | Mike_TK | JerJer: No, I mean ofthen this nat box is 'very smart' and broke a SIP messages. I face with this problem sometimes. |
| 11:07.59 | JerJer | um no, that is not the answer |
| 11:08.25 | tessier | SER is not a bad idea but you don't want it on the asterisk machine |
| 11:08.29 | JerJer | fwd does not use asterisk and ser together, they are separate |
| 11:09.11 | Slothbag_ | yeah, i think thats my problem.. i couldn't get it to work on the one machine |
| 11:09.29 | JerJer | you dont want/need it on the same machine |
| 11:09.29 | Mike_TK | tessier: I had configuration with ser and asterisk on same box without any problems. |
| 11:09.34 | tessier | They would both want to listen on 5060 for one thing |
| 11:09.50 | tessier | mikegrb: I'm sure did. That's not to say it isn't the best way to set up a voip network though. |
| 11:10.06 | Slothbag_ | but i only have the one machine.. |
| 11:10.12 | JerJer | interesting... it just lightning and thundered here |
| 11:10.24 | JerJer | almost scared the shit right out of me |
| 11:10.26 | tessier | Then you can probably do without SER and just use asterisk as your network isn't big enough to really ned it. |
| 11:10.34 | tessier | It's raining pretty good here in San Diego. |
| 11:10.43 | tessier | We're getting plenty of weather this year. It's a nice change from draught. |
| 11:10.51 | doolph | hey |
| 11:10.52 | JerJer | we've gotten over a foot of snow since like noon yesterday |
| 11:11.12 | Slothbag_ | but the client (over the net) cant get rtp over his NAT without a proxy |
| 11:11.20 | JerJer | and still comin down, hard |
| 11:11.25 | doolph | is that isdn/pri like the fx0 line that come from my isp, and i need to connect it to E100 |
| 11:11.30 | JerJer | Slothbag_: then upgrade your edge device |
| 11:11.36 | JerJer | you do not need a proxy locally |
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| 11:12.12 | JerJer | if your edge device has stateful inspection of the packets, it will just magically work |
| 11:12.32 | Slothbag_ | yeah, that would be ideal.. but im trying to remove the complexities from the clients and make it easy for them to setup |
| 11:12.35 | cjk | hi, is the realtime module dead or is it just working great. im asking because i see no activity |
| 11:12.39 | JerJer | perhaps a simple flash upgrade is all you need |
| 11:12.51 | JerJer | Slothbag_: SIP is not going to do that for you |
| 11:12.57 | Slothbag_ | hehe |
| 11:13.11 | Slothbag_ | when is someone gonna write a IAX firmware for the BT100 :)) |
| 11:13.33 | JerJer | right after the iax firmware for the spa 3k comes out |
| 11:13.38 | Delvar | cjk: realtime seems to be working fine a the minute |
| 11:13.59 | JerJer | realtime is so evil |
| 11:14.24 | cjk | 2 different opinions. JerJer why? |
| 11:14.44 | JerJer | why force asterisk to depend on a database to operate? |
| 11:15.11 | ezabi | no iax devices yet except the IAXy??? |
| 11:15.20 | cjk | JerJer, scalability |
| 11:15.52 | JerJer | asterisk doesn't have to be forced to depend on the database |
| 11:15.54 | JerJer | to scale |
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| 11:16.12 | cjk | JerJer, ok except on the opinion on how asterisk should operate. do you know if its stable |
| 11:16.15 | pascals | Manageability is the correct term, I think |
| 11:16.28 | cjk | JerJer, yep i know it hasnt. but it makes things so much easyer |
| 11:16.40 | JerJer | um I use a database |
| 11:16.40 | tessier | Every other phone system requires a database. Why not asterisk? |
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| 11:17.09 | JerJer | notice I did not say to NOT use a database |
| 11:17.26 | The_Ball | How do i know which channel is which on a TM100 card? Is there a scan utility? |
| 11:17.28 | JerJer | i said to force asterisk to DEPEND on the database |
| 11:17.32 | cjk | JerJer, you would prefer something like odbc? |
| 11:17.37 | JerJer | hell no |
| 11:17.38 | tessier | I think most systems depend on their db's too |
| 11:17.54 | cjk | JerJer, ok you mean if mysql is down * is down |
| 11:17.58 | JerJer | tessier: which is a major contributing factor why they suck |
| 11:18.40 | tessier | I believe realtime has a couple of modes of operation doesn't it? |
| 11:18.51 | JerJer | no idea |
| 11:18.57 | tessier | One where it really is real time and another where it checks the db on reloads and restarts only? |
| 11:19.05 | JerJer | i was disgusted on the first cvs commit |
| 11:19.12 | tessier | Not sure but I seem to recall reading something like that on the realtime page in the wiki |
| 11:19.27 | tessier | I think it's good to have a standard schema for asterisk regardless |
| 11:22.42 | ezabi | ok, so does anyone have any idea how the digium directory is done on the dial plan, i mean to dial the first three letters of the last name and it gets back to u |
| 11:23.26 | The_Ball | which module should i load for a TM100 card? zaptel? |
| 11:24.00 | JerJer | exten => 1234,1,Directory(contex_in_voicemail_dot_conf) |
| 11:24.15 | JerJer | The_Ball: wctdm after you have configured zaptel.conf |
| 11:24.31 | The_Ball | okey, thanks |
| 11:24.42 | Zeeek | . |
| 11:24.59 | doolph | tessier: with PRI and a E1 card can I terminate minutes right |
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| 11:26.30 | brandao | Hi guys. Please, how can I make dial command at console work again? |
| 11:26.32 | brandao | *CLI> dial |
| 11:26.32 | brandao | No such command 'dial' (type 'help' for help) |
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| 11:26.51 | JerJer | you have to have a sound card channel driver loaded |
| 11:26.53 | JerJer | chan_oss |
| 11:26.54 | JerJer | or |
| 11:26.56 | JerJer | chan_alsa |
| 11:27.03 | JerJer | depending on the sound subsystem you have going |
| 11:31.24 | brandao | tks! |
| 11:32.17 | JerJer | thank you, drive-thru |
| 11:32.52 | JerJer | don't forget to beat your serving wench |
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| 11:40.21 | gdh | morn' |
| 11:44.19 | eipi | jerjer, i think that i have resolved my weird radio system |
| 11:44.37 | eipi | with shoutcast |
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| 11:50.12 | jerlique | anyone have anything to say about various channel banks? |
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| 11:51.38 | Delvar | nice asterisk behavior, sip entity set to type=peer can make inbound (from client to asterisk) calles, but type=user gets droped into the default context, whats going on, i thought it was suposed to be the other way round? :) |
| 11:52.01 | pranav | hello everyone |
| 11:52.40 | pranav | if i want to connect to another server which is a sip, how to connect it from asterisk |
| 11:53.12 | brandao | there is no sound card at the machine :(, so no dial command at console? |
| 11:54.12 | Delvar | brandao: use a .call file |
| 11:55.53 | pranav | what to add in the extensions.conf |
| 11:56.19 | [ro]nic3try | HELP ..i set my asterisk to use only G729, calls works fine, but sounds (like demo-info) doesnt work anymore ... why ? |
| 11:56.43 | pranav | do we need to add something in sip.conf as well |
| 11:57.13 | The_Ball | is there a sample setup, or guide to setup a simple TDM100B card with asterisk? |
| 11:57.24 | Delvar | [ro]nic3try: do you have licances installed on that server? |
| 11:57.36 | eipi | pranav: in extensions.conf exten => 222, 1, Dial(SIP/........,,r) |
| 11:59.04 | [ro]nic3try | nope.. just asterik |
| 11:59.29 | pranav | ok i.e the ipadress i place of .... |
| 11:59.47 | [ro]nic3try | should i need one ? how do i get one ? |
| 12:06.57 | Delvar | [ro]nic3try: YES you need licances to run g729 on asterisk, look at asterisk.org or digium.com |
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| 12:08.39 | brazil | good morning all? |
| 12:08.54 | oej | Good afternoon from Stockholm |
| 12:09.20 | gdh | Good day :) |
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| 12:10.57 | brandao | Delvar: the .call solved my problems! |
| 12:11.18 | brazil | :) |
| 12:11.42 | CMike | oej: Good Morning... ? I thought you were awake :) |
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| 12:16.53 | goof | folks, I had the following working some time back, now when I dial, * ignoes the "75" prefix |
| 12:17.08 | goof | exten => _096.,1,Dial,Zap/g1/75${EXTEN}|20" ,Any idea |
| 12:18.06 | goof | if i put the 75 at the beginning like _75096., it workd but I want save the user having to dial all that |
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| 12:38.27 | The_Ball | ztcfg -vvv shows two channels 1 - FXO and 2 - FXS and no errors, where do I get asterisk to bind to the FXS and provide a dial tone? |
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| 12:44.08 | Zeeek | k |
| 12:46.43 | Zeeek | ... .... .. _ |
| 12:47.53 | [ro]nic3try | has anyone ever use Cisco Sip Proxy ? |
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| 12:50.35 | zoa | i have a copy of it here |
| 12:50.38 | zoa | but never tried it |
| 12:51.25 | Zeeek | . |
| 12:51.48 | [ro]nic3try | .. aha.. i'm having a litle problm with it.. i'm looking for help :) |
| 12:51.56 | Zeeek | coffee anyone? I'm going to get one |
| 12:52.19 | djin | count me in, Zeeek. |
| 12:52.20 | [ro]nic3try | oh.. but please :D |
| 12:54.56 | Zeeek | the decaf is for who? |
| 12:55.17 | gdh | wrong room, try #pointless |
| 12:55.37 | gdh | bbl =) |
| 12:56.13 | Zeeek | I take it you don't want any gdh? |
| 12:58.19 | Zeeek | I keep losing the connex |
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| 13:10.36 | Zeeek | hi djin |
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| 13:10.45 | jedirl | Hello |
| 13:11.04 | jedirl | Which H.323 channel for asterisk is better ? |
| 13:13.03 | brazil | H.323 is the most used signaling for any device in the world however SIP is yang... |
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| 13:14.08 | ezabi | brazil: still iax is best |
| 13:14.26 | jedirl | I mean which one of the implementations available for asterisk is better |
| 13:19.20 | brazil | tks ;) |
| 13:20.25 | Zeeek | heh |
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| 13:31.08 | brazil | People.. What kind of QoS implementation do you use toghether asterisk? |
| 13:32.12 | jedirl | packetshaper :) |
| 13:34.01 | The_Ball | is channels FXS's only or is FXO's also channels? |
| 13:35.20 | zoa | Whiii |
| 13:35.21 | zoa | :p |
| 13:35.49 | jedirl | zoa: that involved any codec translation? |
| 13:36.09 | zoa | are you crazy? |
| 13:36.32 | jedirl | i'm just asking |
| 13:37.55 | abatista | zoa, ok please explain about how you got 1600 simultaneous calls on a asterisk? |
| 13:38.06 | ariel_ | morning everyone |
| 13:40.32 | brazil | jedirl: expensive solution ;) !! |
| 13:40.38 | Zeeek | aout |
| 13:40.49 | ezabi | zoa: can you please ellaborate |
| 13:41.45 | ezabi | zoa: state hardware, protocol, codec, and cafeine type |
| 13:42.11 | Zeeek | especially cafeine type |
| 13:42.36 | Moc | I used apple juice to make my channel driver |
| 13:42.51 | bjohnson | The_Ball: channel is a term that generally refers to anyway into or out of asterisk |
| 13:43.33 | Manipura | Anyone know where I can find more info on mysql realtime other than the wiki? |
| 13:43.36 | bjohnson | The_Ball: it can be a hardware device, a SIP account, an IAX account, or some other things |
| 13:44.51 | The_Ball | aha, you see im have a phone connected to the FXS and I get a dial tone, but I would like to play the demo which is in extentions.conf, but I haven't got my terms straight yet |
| 13:44.59 | bjohnson | Manipura: try again later. The "experts" aren't in yet |
| 13:45.08 | Manipura | ah |
| 13:45.28 | bjohnson | The_Ball: try dialing 500. I think that it is setup by default |
| 13:45.58 | bjohnson | you may have to config the fxs to talk to * though (and config * to accept the call) |
| 13:46.06 | ariel_ | The_Ball, if you did make samples you can dial 500 it will try to call the digium site over iax2 |
| 13:46.18 | The_Ball | it works!! yey |
| 13:48.59 | The_Ball | that's amazing quality over this crappy dial up!!! |
| 13:49.31 | brazil | anyone had idea about the best QoS implementation for Asterisk? HTB, SFQ, etc? |
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| 13:49.48 | ariel_ | The_Ball, dialup????? oh boy well the demo is pre set for gsm |
| 13:51.38 | ariel_ | brazil, I use asterisk mainly in small biz behind wrt54g and turn on the service on there web interface. But I have done a few via m0n0wall and it has options as well for ports that you give priority |
| 13:52.25 | The_Ball | ariel_, i won't actually call someone will i? on the demo server? |
| 13:52.53 | ariel_ | The_Ball, yes if you use 500 it actually goes out to digium's site |
| 13:52.54 | Zeeek | call an 800 number thru IAXTEL |
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| 13:53.42 | The_Ball | ariel_, yes, i understand it goes to their server, but is that just a test server, or if I select sales, will I actually call sales? |
| 13:53.54 | ariel_ | yes |
| 13:53.56 | Zeeek | try calling support - no danger there :) |
| 13:54.04 | Zeeek | JOKE |
| 13:55.17 | ezabi | go into the directory and try calling mark, he never actually answers |
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| 13:59.45 | brazil | Ariel: Tks very much! |
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| 14:01.27 | bjohnson | brazil: ipcop does QOS too (through standard linux tools) |
| 14:01.56 | bjohnson | brazil: higher end switches will also do QoS with VLANs |
| 14:02.28 | brazil | hmm, good... I looking for!! tks |
| 14:03.51 | ariel_ | bjohnson, gsm is pretty good but it really depends on the b/w you have. ulaw being best and the only one you can use for faxes. |
| 14:05.53 | bjohnson | we don't do faxes over IP and currently I'm using ulaw .. but we only typically have one voip call at a time right now while in testing phase |
| 14:08.14 | ariel_ | bjohnson, then go ahead and try it. In most of the setups I have done we use gsm for most of our connections between asterisk boxes. |
| 14:09.00 | ariel_ | I also use xlite and it's able to use gsm which if great for when your on the road. |
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| 14:09.39 | [ro]nic3try | how do i install asterisk header files ? |
| 14:09.54 | bjohnson | any idea what the gsm codec is listed as on a SPA 2000? |
| 14:12.09 | bjohnson | it lists g711u (ulaw), g723, g726, and g729a |
| 14:12.18 | ariel_ | bjohnson, it's not |
| 14:13.48 | ariel_ | I guess you could try g726 it's about the same as gsm in size the one included with asterisk the -32 |
| 14:14.43 | greg_work | anyone know if AlarmReceiver() would work over a voip line? |
| 14:14.46 | bjohnson | ok. thnx. |
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| 14:15.02 | nicox | hello ! |
| 14:15.16 | nicox | does anybody tested ser with asterisk? |
| 14:15.25 | ManxPower | ~doc |
| 14:15.29 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 14:15.30 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 14:15.33 | bjohnson | I'm trying to figure out how I can do some testing on codecs without affecting the office lines or my wife :) |
| 14:15.40 | ariel_ | nicox, some people do test it but most here just use asterisk along |
| 14:16.08 | ariel_ | bjohnson, do you have a spare old pc around? |
| 14:16.20 | bjohnson | yes, why? |
| 14:17.02 | zoa | why would you want to do testing on codecs ? |
| 14:17.05 | ariel_ | bjohnson, make your test asterisk box. |
| 14:17.26 | ariel_ | zoa, you never told us about your 1600 calls? |
| 14:17.35 | zoa | hey |
| 14:17.38 | zoa | just did that |
| 14:17.43 | zoa | now trying to go to 15000 :) |
| 14:17.59 | bjohnson | zoa: I have a few issues that may be related to bandwidth. Also, when out of testing, there will likely be more external voip calls so bandwidth will continue to be an issue (currently everything is ulaw) |
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| 14:19.02 | ariel_ | zoa, we still want to under stand how you can get 1600 on asterisk now your after 15,000 ????? oh boy. |
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| 14:20.36 | Zeeek | he exceeded his test data |
| 14:21.05 | [ro]nic3try | how do i install asterisk header files ? pls |
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| 14:22.05 | ariel_ | [ro]nic3try, what do you call header files? |
| 14:22.36 | RoyK | [ro]nic3try: make install :P |
| 14:22.38 | [ro]nic3try | *.h |
| 14:23.02 | ariel_ | all the files if you get the cvs should be in /usr/src/asterisk |
| 14:23.53 | [ro]nic3try | .. i'm tring to install g729.. so i need these files .. |
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| 14:27.50 | ArkyLady | anyone know of a good virtual server host? I want to be able to do my own DNS, etc |
| 14:29.24 | ariel_ | ArkyLady, I am using www.race.com |
| 14:29.33 | ArkyLady | thanks, I'll check it out :) |
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| 14:30.42 | ManxPower | [ro]nic3try, I don't thibk anyone will help you install the non-digium unlicensed G729 codec. |
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| 14:32.24 | tzanger | ManxPower: got that right |
| 14:32.47 | bjohnson | does FWD offer voicemail? I see that sipphone does |
| 14:33.07 | coppice | G.729 warez edition |
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| 14:33.40 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 14:34.10 | tzanger | coppice: I am hoping to have some time to go back over the zaptel code and basically start a year ago and incrementally try zaptel drivers until the fax stops working again |
| 14:34.16 | tzanger | and see if the CPU load spikes occur then too |
| 14:35.16 | coppice | that problem is causing pain for me too. I wonder nobody at Digium seems interested |
| 14:35.16 | ezabi | zoa: still haven't told us about ur cafeine configuration |
| 14:35.40 | zoa | hehe |
| 14:35.41 | zoa | i wont |
| 14:35.44 | zoa | company secret |
| 14:35.45 | zoa | :p |
| 14:35.47 | zoa | no its not |
| 14:35.53 | zoa | its just nothing special to talk about |
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| 14:37.58 | ariel_ | zoa, 1600 calls on asterisk at the same time is special at least in my view it is. |
| 14:39.19 | ezabi | zoa: well it is special, of course u r not using only one machine for this |
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| 14:40.31 | bjohnson | it could be used as a benchmark for everybody who asks "Can it handle x number of users?" |
| 14:40.38 | Hmmhesays | is there a cheap easy way to ring all phones in a context? |
| 14:40.39 | jedirl | is there a warez-edition of G.729? hahaha |
| 14:40.46 | Hmmhesays | yes there is |
| 14:40.50 | Hmmhesays | g.723 too |
| 14:40.53 | bjohnson | with the consisitent follow up question "What hardware would I need?" |
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| 14:41.15 | jedirl | g.723 may have sense to exist in warez ... but g.729 from digium is quite cheap |
| 14:41.17 | bjohnson | Hmmhesays: use & in the dial command |
| 14:41.25 | jedirl | I don't understand people warez-ing it |
| 14:41.33 | tzanger | jedirl: absolutely.. $10/channel is peanuts -- you make up for it in bandwidth and LD charges |
| 14:41.44 | Hmmhesays | bjohnson: that's what I thought |
| 14:41.52 | Hmmhesays | people warez it simply to prove that they can |
| 14:41.56 | Hmmhesays | what more reason do you need? |
| 14:42.09 | jedirl | but it is digium's codec cracked? |
| 14:42.19 | ManxPower | coppice, I don't suppose you, oh Asterisk guru whom I am but a guppy in your presence, have any comments on this: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-February/090578.html |
| 14:42.21 | jedirl | or it's another one? |
| 14:42.27 | Hmmhesays | no, you can compile the code from intel |
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| 14:47.10 | ManxPower | jedirl, The pirate codecs use Intel's developement kit. |
| 14:47.16 | *** join/#asterisk v_a_d_e_r (~root@82.147.138.26) |
| 14:47.17 | jedirl | ahhh |
| 14:47.29 | jedirl | "pirate" in the sense you don't have a patent grant to use it, right? |
| 14:47.41 | ManxPower | There is also the G729 codec from the ITU as well, but won't compile for Asterisk out of the box. |
| 14:47.49 | ManxPower | jedirl, Correct. |
| 14:48.01 | coppice | or copyright |
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| 14:48.13 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ |
| 14:48.34 | Hmmhesays | no, but you can just download the patch |
| 14:49.18 | Hmmhesays | for testing purposes for 30 days of course you can use it legally |
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| 14:49.38 | bjohnson | jedirl: pirate in the sense that you're required to wear an eye patch and say "arr" a lot |
| 14:49.39 | jedirl | I guess digium's performs much better, right? |
| 14:49.52 | ManxPower | I just think that if G729 was legal in many countries then there would be many free implimentations of it. Much like when crypto was illegal to export from the USA. |
| 14:50.40 | Hmmhesays | where it IS legal to compile your own g.729 or g.723 bandwidth is so damn expensive it's not worth it to put boxes there |
| 14:50.47 | Delvar | there is a free distro of g729 that works with asterisk.... |
| 14:50.52 | *** join/#asterisk HitTop (~Miranda@host6614613596.biz.tor.fcibroadband.com) |
| 14:50.58 | HitTop | hi, does anyone know wat res_crypto.so is for? |
| 14:52.34 | coppice | Delvar: from from legality, you mean :-) |
| 14:52.48 | HitTop | im trying to slim asterisk as small as possible.. and i found that this one module takes up 500kb.. so i was thinking if i can take "res_crypto.so" out or not... |
| 14:53.03 | Delvar | well im not sure if it is leagal... |
| 14:53.07 | Delvar | auther seems to think so |
| 14:53.24 | *** join/#asterisk stickynomore (~jeff@nsc66.147.11-46.newsouth.net) |
| 14:53.42 | Hmmhesays | the rule of thumb is.... if your country does not have indoor plumbing, and the majority of the population lives in grass huts then it's legal for you to use g.729 there |
| 14:53.45 | *** part/#asterisk sektor195 (~please@216.86.45.98) |
| 14:54.28 | coppice | Delvar: the "author" authored about 50 lines of code. The rest is stolen |
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| 14:55.07 | Delvar | iv not realy looked into it farther than a glance at the readme |
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| 14:55.19 | Delvar | wouldnt suprise me tho |
| 14:55.25 | DEVILoper | Have any tried GSM modem with * |
| 14:55.55 | jedirl | is it possible to use ulaw/alaw with NuFone's H.323? |
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| 14:58.04 | jedirl | I guess I'm the only one here crazy enough to use h.323 :) |
| 14:58.11 | tzanger | indeed :-) |
| 14:58.20 | tzanger | jerjer's the wizard behind the h323 stuff |
| 14:58.23 | tzanger | you mgiht want to try and corner him |
| 14:58.29 | jedirl | hehehe |
| 14:59.03 | djin | Unable to open IAX timing interface: No such device or address |
| 14:59.04 | bjohnson | so .. I guess maybe someone has already evaluated these SPA units to determine which codec is good combo of quality / low bitrate. Or do I need to do it myself? |
| 14:59.19 | djin | What does this IAX timing interface mean? |
| 14:59.36 | *** part/#asterisk brc-tux (~cbrinz@pD9E9A4C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:59.39 | tzanger | djin: that's a great question |
| 14:59.43 | tzanger | are you trying ot use trunking? |
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| 15:00.06 | jedirl | I have a teles VoIP gateway using a GnuGK H.323 gatekeeper; I'm trying to make asterisk answer phonecalls from the VoIP to a concrete extension |
| 15:00.22 | djin | trunking? I'm not sure. |
| 15:00.38 | tzanger | djin: do you have trunk=yes in the iax.conf anywhere |
| 15:00.56 | tzanger | what are you trying to do to get this message? |
| 15:00.57 | jedirl | I've done in h323.conf: type=h323, e164=myphonenumber, context=default |
| 15:01.11 | jedirl | am I doing something bad here? |
| 15:01.18 | tzanger | no idea jedirl |
| 15:01.19 | Luhiwu | jedirl, i was unable to change the context in h323 based on the h323 peer, did you try something like that? |
| 15:01.37 | djin | tzanger, no |
| 15:01.44 | [ro]nic3try | has anyone instaled G729 ? |
| 15:01.45 | jedirl | Luhiwu: nope |
| 15:01.49 | djin | I get this message at startup of asterisk |
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| 15:02.06 | djin | [ro]nic3try, yes. |
| 15:02.07 | Luhiwu | jedirl: ok, i also was unable to corner JerJer :) |
| 15:02.18 | tzanger | djin: post your entire asterisk -vvvvvvvvvv to pastebin |
| 15:02.21 | jedirl | Luhiwu: I'm just trying to make asterisk listen on a H.323 phone number and perform an IVR |
| 15:02.28 | djin | tzanger, ok |
| 15:02.36 | jedirl | well in fact I'm trying to run ASTCC over it :) |
| 15:02.46 | Luhiwu | jedirl: did you try changing context=default to context=inc-h323 and then use the s extension in inc-h323 to do the ivr? |
| 15:02.53 | [ro]nic3try | i'm instaling the free version .. http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/g729/INSTALL-041103.txt |
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| 15:03.05 | jedirl | Luhiwu: not yet |
| 15:03.18 | Luhiwu | jedirl: ok, it should work without problem, i have it working almost out of the box |
| 15:03.38 | [ro]nic3try | and at step 5a .. i'm lost : If you have icc 8.0 libimf, move intel_cc_80/lib/libimf.so to |
| 15:03.38 | [ro]nic3try | somewhere out of the way. This will allow you to link libimf.a |
| 15:03.38 | [ro]nic3try | statically with codec_g729.so |
| 15:04.03 | [ro]nic3try | what to do ??? |
| 15:04.12 | jedirl | Luhiwu: I'm going to try it :) |
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| 15:05.02 | djin | tzanger: http://pastebin.ca/6240 |
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| 15:07.05 | ManxPower | [ro]nic3try, don't ask that stuff here. |
| 15:07.16 | *** part/#asterisk DEVILoper (~x@202.5.145.50) |
| 15:07.21 | [ro]nic3try | ok.. sorry |
| 15:07.36 | ManxPower | We do not help people running non-digium G729 codec. |
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| 15:07.52 | Luhiwu | any g729 expert here? don't run, i've seen you speaking about g729 just a few minutes ago :) |
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| 15:09.08 | Luhiwu | ManxPower: i have a digium 729 codec, how do i get some help? :) |
| 15:09.19 | Luhiwu | i'm getting this error in the * console: "Dropping extra frame of G.729 since we already have a VAD frame at the end" |
| 15:09.25 | Luhiwu | and the sound gets choppy |
| 15:09.51 | ManxPower | Luhiwu, I believe that is caused by one device trying to use VAD / Silence supression. |
| 15:09.51 | mikegrb | turn off vad |
| 15:09.55 | montoya | asterisk exist how to doc ? |
| 15:09.56 | eKo1 | Luhiwu: That's not an error. I get that all the time. |
| 15:10.03 | ManxPower | ~docs |
| 15:10.06 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 15:10.14 | ManxPower | eKo1, Choppy voice is an error. 8-) |
| 15:10.18 | *** part/#asterisk [ro]nic3try (~iancu@81.181.199.39) |
| 15:10.22 | eKo1 | I don't get choppy voice though. |
| 15:10.27 | *** part/#asterisk ManxPower (~eric@dsl-208-164-150-160.datasync.com) |
| 15:10.33 | eKo1 | Or atleast, nobody has told me about it. |
| 15:10.58 | mikegrb | eKo1: turn off vad, asterisk doesn't support it and it will make the voice choppy |
| 15:10.59 | Luhiwu | i do get choppy voice, a lot of it when the message appears, that's why i think it is an error :) |
| 15:11.01 | eKo1 | I do have silence suppression disabled on the client that is causing those messages. |
| 15:11.19 | eKo1 | But VAD is a different story. |
| 15:11.36 | Luhiwu | i can't turn off vad, the gateway is not under my control, and the carrier is not very friendly :( |
| 15:12.03 | Luhiwu | is there any way to force a sip client to unregister from the console? |
| 15:12.38 | eKo1 | Not that I know of. |
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| 15:13.40 | Luhiwu | i'm having some problems with Linksys PAP2, it appears as registered but when i call the extension, i get "No one is available to answer at this time" |
| 15:14.02 | ionix | linksys PAP2 can't be used with anything else than Vonage ? |
| 15:14.15 | Luhiwu | ionix, i have a unlocked one |
| 15:14.16 | Connor- | PAP2-NA can. normal PAP2 can't |
| 15:14.24 | Luhiwu | i have a PAP2-NA |
| 15:15.06 | *** join/#asterisk sandnigg0r (~trilluser@66-55-197-254.gwi.net) |
| 15:15.23 | Connor- | Yea. the -NA version is for other VoIP providers other than vonage. the non -NA versions are the ones you find in compusa, bestbuy etc.. |
| 15:16.02 | *** topic/#asterisk by bkw_ -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || Dev Conf 1PM CST FEB 24th -> IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 || ILEC's can suck my ethernet cord! |
| 15:17.24 | coppice | telcos sure can suck |
| 15:17.46 | Zeeek | so many things do these days |
| 15:18.16 | Poincare | IAX Subclass: INVAL => means that the extension (on the other side) is invalid? |
| 15:18.31 | coppice | I bet a winCE vacuum cleaner wouldn't |
| 15:19.37 | Tall-guy | Guys, I have a relatively simple 4 Fxo / 4 fxs box, when I do FXS to sip calls, quality is great, when I come in from outside (ie: FXO) to sip I get what sounds like half duplex issues...can someone point me in a direction? (gently) |
| 15:23.25 | eipi | anyone have working asterisk with a router wrt54g? |
| 15:23.42 | kpfleming | you mean _on_ a wrt54g? |
| 15:23.55 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@host-81-191-147-248.bluecom.no) |
| 15:24.17 | eipi | box <=> wrt54g < => internet |
| 15:24.38 | eipi | under wrt54g intranet, all works fine |
| 15:25.07 | eipi | i have configured ports under application and gaming section |
| 15:25.18 | ariel_ | Luhiwu, add qualify=120 to your sip setup for the linksys pap2-na this will help keep it up. |
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| 15:25.49 | eipi | but when an external user tries to connect, my asterisk dont receive the register request |
| 15:26.09 | eipi | kpfleming do you have wrt54g? |
| 15:26.26 | ariel_ | eipi, it only allows one connection per port like one 5060 or one 5061 to an address. I use the wrt54g here. |
| 15:26.34 | kpfleming | yes, i have lots of them installed, they work fine |
| 15:26.48 | kpfleming | but i don't have asterisk running behind them, my only * installs are on public IPs |
| 15:27.18 | eipi | yes i forwarded to 1 ip |
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| 15:27.46 | eipi | sip,5060,5060,udp, theonly*serverIP |
| 15:28.09 | eipi | iax2,4569,4569,udp, theonly*serverIP |
| 15:28.24 | eipi | iax,5036,5036,udp, theonly*serverIP |
| 15:28.36 | kpfleming | don't need 5036, it's not being used any longer |
| 15:28.48 | eipi | ok, but for this case is the same |
| 15:28.53 | ariel_ | eipi, don't forget 10,000 to 20,000 |
| 15:28.59 | kpfleming | SIP behind a NAT is a major pain in the butt, you need to use IAX2 or put * in the DMZ to make things easier |
| 15:29.02 | eipi | yes i have it |
| 15:29.13 | eipi | rtp, 10000,20000,,udp, theonly*serverIP |
| 15:29.21 | eipi | mgcp,2727,2727,,udp, theonly*serverIP |
| 15:29.41 | dsmouse | kpfleming: /me hist SIP. |
| 15:29.44 | dsmouse | hits |
| 15:30.05 | eipi | kpfleming: but * never receives a sip request |
| 15:30.17 | kpfleming | then something is badly wrong with your network :-( |
| 15:30.51 | kpfleming | you have SIP Phones working locally on the LAN with that * server? |
| 15:30.54 | eipi | yes |
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| 15:31.39 | kpfleming | hmm |
| 15:31.44 | ezabi | zoa: how many calls so far? |
| 15:31.44 | user1fn | howdy, yall |
| 15:32.07 | user1fn | got a zap problem again... so here goes |
| 15:32.09 | kpfleming | you need to put a box running tcpdump or ethereal on the LAN and see if the packet is being forwared by the WRT to _anywhere_ inside... if not, you have a NAT forwarding problem in the router |
| 15:32.41 | user1fn | finally got it compile and install, but sometimes I can load the card driver (wcte11xp) and most of the time it says it can't find the hardware |
| 15:32.42 | ariel_ | eipi, also make sure your running the lastest firmware on the linksys. |
| 15:32.45 | eipi | its weird i have another network ports open and working |
| 15:33.45 | ariel_ | eipi, which device are you using to connect to your asterisk a sipphone/sipura? |
| 15:35.30 | user1fn | nobody in the mood for such a paltry dillemma? |
| 15:35.33 | user1fn | ;) |
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| 15:38.11 | ACiDV | Hi, I have a dial plan that do: exten => 611,1,Answer ... 2,SayDigits(1234) ... 3,Hangup ... and after I have exten => _.,1,Macro(dial-result) ... does it's normal that the dial-result macro is executed after the hangup ? |
| 15:39.18 | shmaltz | ACiDV, nope |
| 15:39.34 | shmaltz | do 3, ${DIALRESULT} |
| 15:39.58 | shmaltz | anyhow in your case you don't even have a dial command |
| 15:41.33 | ACiDV | NoOp(${DIALRESULT} doesnt return any code |
| 15:41.51 | shmaltz | AciDV, b/c you didn't dial anything |
| 15:41.59 | shmaltz | you first have to issue the dial command |
| 15:43.19 | ariel_ | shmaltz, you should not use _., use _X., instead |
| 15:43.29 | ACiDV | I cannot use _. ? |
| 15:43.33 | shmaltz | ariel_, what? |
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| 15:43.52 | ariel_ | you should not use it due to it will match everything not just numbers. |
| 15:43.57 | codebreaker | hello. |
| 15:44.15 | shmaltz | I SHOULD NOT USE IT, or YOU SHOULD GET YOUR GLASSES? |
| 15:44.26 | ACiDV | I have use the example on http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20i%20extension .... exten => _.,1,what_to_do_for_fat_fingers_always_misdialing |
| 15:44.31 | codebreaker | is ther a softwareclient like kphone etc.. available wich speaks the IAX protocol? |
| 15:44.36 | ariel_ | so it's a very bady Idea to have _., it will match i s and everthing else so you can't debug correctly. |
| 15:44.51 | shmaltz | ariel_ you still talking to me? |
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| 15:45.02 | eipi | im back |
| 15:45.16 | ACiDV | Its me that have a problem with _., :) |
| 15:45.17 | eipi | i restarted wrt54g and now i receive this messags on console: Maximum retries exceeded on call d220ef75892fb87a for seqno 1 (Non-critical Response) |
| 15:45.20 | ariel_ | shmaltz, anyone that is here that cars to listen. |
| 15:45.22 | shmaltz | ACiDV, that is ther as a hypothtical example |
| 15:45.38 | ACiDV | ok =) I will try with _X. |
| 15:45.41 | eipi | and Unable to create/find channel |
| 15:45.48 | tzanger | ugh |
| 15:45.49 | shmaltz | ACiDV, it will not work |
| 15:45.53 | tzanger | don't use _X. unless you have no other choice |
| 15:46.00 | tzanger | don't use '.' unless you have no other choice |
| 15:46.14 | codebreaker | ah and i am looking still for a $frontend (web or else) to asterisk |
| 15:46.19 | ACiDV | not more ? :) if it's the last exten of the list ? to catch all invalid extension ? |
| 15:46.36 | tzanger | use 'i' to catch invalid extensions |
| 15:46.50 | ariel_ | ACiDV, asterisk takes and does it's matching not in order of listed. |
| 15:47.30 | tzanger | ariel_: huh? it most certainly does |
| 15:47.52 | shmaltz | tzanger, no it doesn't |
| 15:47.56 | tzanger | ...?? |
| 15:48.02 | ariel_ | sorry baby on lap does not allow me to type correctly. Asterisk not really if sorts the dialing rules unless you use includes. |
| 15:48.07 | tzanger | _1234567,1,dosomething |
| 15:48.08 | shmaltz | tzanger, it maches accordig to context |
| 15:48.11 | tzanger | _1234XXX,1,dosomethingelse |
| 15:48.15 | bjohnson | ACiDV: the order in extensions.conf may not be the order that * processes the extensions |
| 15:48.18 | tzanger | well yes within a context, that is a given |
| 15:48.24 | ACiDV | ok |
| 15:48.45 | tzanger | it is 'first-match' within a dialplan |
| 15:48.46 | bjohnson | ACiDV: a _. or _X. could be the very first extension ever run .. and since it matches eveything .. nothing else in the dial plan would ever run |
| 15:48.59 | shmaltz | tzanger, nope |
| 15:49.08 | tzanger | shmaltz: that's most certainly how it works on my setup |
| 15:49.11 | tzanger | if I include a,b,c |
| 15:49.16 | tzanger | it will first-match |
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| 15:49.27 | bjohnson | it is also how it is documented in the wiki |
| 15:49.32 | shmaltz | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-print.php?page=Asterisk+config+extensions.conf+sorting |
| 15:49.36 | tzanger | [mycontext] includes a,b,c in that order |
| 15:49.41 | shmaltz | tzanger, look it up |
| 15:49.45 | tzanger | it will match a number in A if hte same number is in C and the default context |
| 15:49.46 | bjohnson | I have also personally seen the dial plan order change if I restart * and use show dialplan |
| 15:49.52 | tzanger | er not default but [mycontext] |
| 15:50.02 | shmaltz | tzanger, yep after includes but not without includes |
| 15:50.09 | tzanger | shmaltz: huh? |
| 15:50.30 | tzanger | if I don't include anything in [mycontext] it does first-match within [mycontext] |
| 15:50.42 | bjohnson | Asterisk does not match against the extension patterns in the order you define them; the extension patterns are sorted first |
| 15:50.43 | shmaltz | in each context the order might not be what you expact, but if you use includes then you are enforcing the order |
| 15:50.46 | tzanger | if I have an exten that is 1234567 and one underneath that is 1234XXX it will match 1234567 first (if I dial 1234567) |
| 15:50.47 | bjohnson | from the wiki |
| 15:51.01 | bjohnson | if you do pattern matching .. you have no idea which is checked first |
| 15:51.07 | tzanger | baloney |
| 15:51.12 | tzanger | that's exactly how I do my DIDs |
| 15:51.30 | tzanger | I have the specific DIDs first, followed by _292XXXX doing "the number I have is ${EXTEN}" being played |
| 15:51.34 | tzanger | works just fine |
| 15:51.40 | tzanger | and has for the past year, over numerous CVS HEAD upgrades |
| 15:51.46 | Chuji | Use includes if you want something to be matched first |
| 15:51.53 | bjohnson | Chuji: exactly |
| 15:52.04 | Chuji | include => specifics and then include => patterns |
| 15:52.11 | tzanger | either I'm misinterpreting or you're all on crack |
| 15:52.14 | bjohnson | Chuji: or avoid having duplicate pattern matches |
| 15:52.30 | tzanger | now if you have MULTIPLE pattern matches then you might be on to something |
| 15:52.41 | tzanger | i.e. a _292XXXX and a _. |
| 15:52.47 | Chuji | tzanger : You may have just got lucky, but the dialplan has some wacky behavior if it could match multiple patterns |
| 15:52.47 | bjohnson | and _. is by default, a MULTIPLE of something else |
| 15:53.08 | tzanger | I dont' use multiple patterns within a context |
| 15:53.14 | bjohnson | hence the rule of thumb to never use _. or _X. |
| 15:53.33 | bjohnson | or if you need to, put it in another context that gets "included" |
| 15:53.36 | tzanger | maybe I just use intelligent dialplans and have never run across it becaues of that. :-) |
| 15:54.00 | shmaltz | tzanger, of course it works, its a specific number and not a pattern |
| 15:54.04 | bjohnson | tzanger: likely .. but doesn't mean that newbies don't stick in _. in inappropriate locations |
| 15:54.09 | Chuji | I've hit it with exgirlfriend logic in DIDs |
| 15:54.23 | bjohnson | ariel_: <- a very wise person |
| 15:54.45 | Chuji | I have a whole range of DID's going to macro, but I want to pull one out |
| 15:54.47 | tzanger | as I said, don't use '.' unless there is no other way |
| 15:55.18 | tzanger | no wait I do use multiple patterns in some dialplans but they're always pretty specific |
| 15:55.26 | tzanger | my local # matching, 800# matching,e tc. |
| 15:55.27 | bjohnson | so, I concure with ariel_'s first statement that ACiDV should not use _. in his dialplan in the way is is using it |
| 15:55.29 | ariel_ | tzanger, I was trying to just explain to him orginally not to use _., and why this is just the way things happen. |
| 15:55.31 | shmaltz | tzanger the reason 1234567 and 1234XXX is matched first against 1234567 is b/c that is not a pattern but a number |
| 15:55.32 | tzanger | but no two patterns will match each other :-) |
| 15:55.57 | tzanger | shmaltz: ok, but what in the case of _123XXXX and _1234XXX |
| 15:56.06 | bjohnson | shmaltz: he does a pattern match on _292XXXX |
| 15:56.13 | tzanger | will not 1234XXX match 'more' and thus be executed over _123XXXX if the user dials 1234567 ? |
| 15:56.18 | shmaltz | then it migth or might not be in order |
| 15:56.37 | shmaltz | tzanger not according to the wiki |
| 15:56.38 | shmaltz | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-print.php?page=Asterisk+config+extensions.conf+sorting |
| 15:57.08 | bjohnson | tzanger: if _123XXXX and _1234XXX are separate extensions (each with a 1 priority) and in the same context .. you have no way of knowing which will be run first |
| 15:57.25 | shmaltz | tzanger, in that example 918 will be sorted last |
| 15:57.25 | bjohnson | order can even change from one reload to the next |
| 15:57.31 | tzanger | bjohnson: interesting... I've never had to run against that :-) |
| 15:57.47 | tzanger | interesting what you learn |
| 15:58.16 | bjohnson | I've run into dialplan order problems that generally confirm what that wiki page says |
| 15:58.21 | shmaltz | tzanger, each day is a new day with new things, make the best of it today, for tomorrow something new is coming |
| 15:58.23 | bjohnson | sounds like others here have too |
| 15:58.52 | greg_work | holy crap phone companies drive me nuts |
| 15:59.08 | shmaltz | greg_work, drop them |
| 15:59.15 | bjohnson | so .. I think both shmaltz AND ariel_ listed 2 different potential problems with ACiDV's original post |
| 15:59.24 | shmaltz | tell your clients they can now do orders over IRC |
| 15:59.38 | shmaltz | bjohnson, exactly |
| 16:01.37 | Beirdo | ariel_: only if you beat me to it :) |
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| 16:02.48 | km- | ok, whatcha guys think. 2.4 or 2.6 for an asterisk system with a T1 card? |
| 16:03.03 | shmaltz | ariel_, enjoy that upgrade, |
| 16:03.29 | shmaltz | km-, 2.6 has proven to be stable enough by now, |
| 16:03.45 | km- | I remember there being some issues with zaptel and 2.6 a few months ago |
| 16:03.48 | km- | thats why I'm asking |
| 16:03.56 | km- | I heard some people have problems getting a T1 card to behave in 2.6 |
| 16:04.41 | tzanger | not I |
| 16:04.42 | jedirl | I can't make H.323 work with asterisk |
| 16:04.57 | km- | tzanger: oh, so maybe it's working now... |
| 16:04.59 | jedirl | anyone could take a look at what asterisk tells me when I make a phonecall?¿ |
| 16:05.01 | shmaltz | only if u use udev and you don't RTFM |
| 16:05.01 | km- | cool, I'll get 2.6.9 |
| 16:05.01 | Tall-guy | ariel: I'll trade Active Directory experience for future asterisk help :) |
| 16:05.11 | tzanger | I'm running with 2.6.10 |
| 16:05.47 | km- | oh, heh, I didn't see it in the ls |
| 16:06.32 | jedirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.33 | jedirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.33 | jedirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.41 | jedirl | anyone has ever seen this ? |
| 16:06.47 | codebreaker | is there a softwareclient like kphone etc.. available wich speaks the IAX protocol? or a hardwarephone. but i didnt find any :( |
| 16:06.51 | tzanger | I imagine if you were able to figure out what cause 7 was it'd help |
| 16:06.58 | jedirl | cause 7 is when you already have a channel used |
| 16:07.30 | km- | hmodes: you awake? :) |
| 16:07.42 | km- | oh lord this box is slow |
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| 16:07.55 | km- | I've got a frac t1 and I'm getting 5kb/sec download off this system |
| 16:08.02 | ariel_ | Tall-guy, hummm I have been working with windows systems for many years. But at the present time I am trying to change there old dns to work correctly. |
| 16:08.34 | tzanger | km-: enable more than one ds0 :-) |
| 16:08.38 | roamer323 | codebreaker - iaxcomm and dragonfly (software), IAXy (hardware) - use google or voip-info.org to find links |
| 16:08.56 | jedirl | noone knows what could be the reason? |
| 16:09.11 | km- | tzanger: haha |
| 16:09.17 | km- | tzanger: lemme just up the bw here.... <whomp> |
| 16:09.49 | codebreaker | roamer323: i have found iaxy. but i like to have something like an hardwarephone like amtel.. but thanks for dragonfly/iaxcomm. i will try |
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| 16:11.37 | Luhiwu | codebreaker: i did a iax softphone based on iaxclientocx, pm me if you want |
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| 16:14.40 | MichaelVanD | codebreaker: iaxclient.sf.net/index.html lists a few, but I'm partial to iaxComm ;) |
| 16:15.56 | coppice | I think the world needs a lot more softphones. All similar. All substandard. The important thing is merely that there should be a lot of them. I know many others agree :-) |
| 16:16.42 | Tall-guy | coppice :) |
| 16:17.36 | kpfleming | coppice: and we need more of them that don't conform to _any_ of the standard UIs for the systems they run on, that's especially helpful |
| 16:19.20 | ACiDV | I have a a TE405 card, I plug a crossover cable between a Nortel BCM and port 1 of Digium Card and after a few seconds, I get a seg fault on asterisk... if I dont plug the T1 cable, the asterisk can work days and days.. |
| 16:19.33 | coppice | and interacting with other tools, like address information is a definite no-no. All available development resources should be focussed where it is most need - on skins |
| 16:20.25 | zoa | next thing to try |
| 16:20.30 | Logan | I have a problem. The Sipura SPA-841 phone cannot do a real blind transfer. However, using asterisk's mechanism (triggered by the # key) is problematic, because we often call out to IVRs that require the use of the # key. Has anyone dealt with this problem before? |
| 16:20.35 | zoa | setup 20 asterisk machines in the test lab |
| 16:20.36 | zoa | :) |
| 16:20.39 | tzanger | ACiDV: what's your system processor |
| 16:21.00 | ACiDV | tzanger ... Intel Xeon 2.8ghz |
| 16:21.05 | tzanger | ok |
| 16:21.14 | ACiDV | related to SMP ? |
| 16:21.14 | tzanger | does it segfault if you use a loopback cable |
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| 16:21.28 | doughecka_ | Logan: if you do a search, I seem to remember a patch that required 2 #'s to do a transfer |
| 16:22.02 | Ayano | is there anything special to hook up a ip500 to asterisk? |
| 16:22.04 | greg_work | Logan: if you hit xfer immedately it will be 'blind' |
| 16:22.25 | shmaltz | Logan, you can change it now from # in features.conf |
| 16:22.39 | MichaelVanD | Now I remember why I stopped lurking here. I wrote iaxComm to fill a personal need (the only iax softphone available anywhere was Steve Kann's wx demo). I turned it into a real application, and there are a number of users who do appreciate it. |
| 16:22.58 | Logan | greg_work: Sure, I can tell my users "Yes, these phones support blind transfer. Just press this sequence of buttons erally really fast." But that's not ideal. |
| 16:23.15 | Logan | I'd prefer to have a way to do a transfer that synchronizes the transfer with the dial of the third party. |
| 16:23.16 | ACiDV | tzanger I've not test with loopback cable yet... |
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| 16:23.28 | tzanger | ACiDV: also when it segfaults load up the corefile in gdb -- where's it segfaulting |
| 16:23.29 | Logan | shmaltz: Even if I change it from #, there's no good chioce to change it to. |
| 16:23.36 | Logan | shmaltz: The use of a DTMF tone is problematic. |
| 16:23.43 | coppice | yeah, just get 1.0 out the door so I can start commiting to CVS :-) |
| 16:23.46 | MichaelVanD | The only feedback I've ever gotten from the irc community is snide childish comments like "suxxors" or vague comments like "unstable" or we don't need another softphone. |
| 16:23.50 | Logan | Is there a way for a user, during a call, to disable the special semantics of the # key? |
| 16:23.52 | greg_work | Logan: yeah, true |
| 16:24.07 | Logan | greg_work: In fact, that's what the Sipura manual says. |
| 16:24.10 | Logan | God I hate these phones. |
| 16:24.22 | greg_work | Logan: get sipura to update their sofkeys so theres another button for blind transfer |
| 16:24.47 | greg_work | while they're at it maybe they can change it so the second menu is displayed during a call, instead of useless "redial" and "directory" buttons |
| 16:24.47 | Ayano | is there anything special to hook up a ip500 to asterisk? A friend of mine said he set it up and it is not even trying to authenticate. |
| 16:25.18 | ACiDV | tzanger :) not gdb guru... I write: gdb (corefile) ... hmm some help on how to get some info from gdb ? :D |
| 16:25.39 | MichaelVanD | The whole point of iaxComm is that it written to a crossplatform user interface library. I don't see how it could be 100% compliant with UI guidelines for three different platforms. |
| 16:25.55 | greg_work | yikes |
| 16:26.07 | coppice | isn't that what wxwidgets is supposed to achieve? |
| 16:26.21 | doughecka_ | or wine |
| 16:26.23 | doughecka_ | =D |
| 16:26.25 | ACiDV | ok, found the Asterisk Debuging page in wiki |
| 16:26.29 | greg_work | "hi, calling from ma bell.. got a request to cancel the line xxx-xxxx" ... "no.. you're supposed to cancel the voicemail on that line, not the line itself" .. "oh, it just says the line here.. good thing i checked" |
| 16:26.30 | tzanger | ACiDV: gdb -c corefile |
| 16:26.33 | tzanger | and then type 'bt' |
| 16:26.36 | tzanger | and pastbin it |
| 16:26.48 | coppice | no. wine blurs the sense so you no longer care :-) |
| 16:26.49 | doughecka_ | greg_work: dweeb =D |
| 16:26.53 | Logan | I think I'm going to have to modify asterisk. Anyone know where the code that captures the # key is? |
| 16:26.54 | doughecka_ | coppice: :P |
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| 16:28.02 | ACiDV | tzafrir_home : not very long ... #0 0x00ea2c6a in q931_getcall (pri=0x88a87e0, cr=32768) at q931.c:2157 |
| 16:28.08 | ACiDV | ops... not tzafrir_home but tzanger |
| 16:28.11 | Beirdo | greg_work: must be Bell Canada |
| 16:28.18 | Tall-guy | beird: or sasktel :) |
| 16:28.27 | jedirl | I get "-- ClearCall: Request to clear call with token ip$213.162.200.83:20004/202, cause 7 " when I try to call from outside to an asterisk with h.323... anyone knows what may be happening? |
| 16:28.49 | jesse_132 | I am trying to call between two non-NAT sip phones and get chan_sip.c:683 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 7c3442a971503d5b06fd47d22c6b2c08@192.168.1.119 for seqno 102 (Critical Request) ... I can call out with either of them. Anyone know what could be wrong? |
| 16:28.52 | Beirdo | Tall-guy: same thing, they're both BCE :) |
| 16:29.08 | Tall-guy | beirdo: yup |
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| 16:29.46 | Beirdo | Bell Canada is such a bunch of incompetent fools |
| 16:29.59 | Beirdo | they have NEVER gotten an order right for me, not once |
| 16:30.06 | coppice | hey, they're a telco :-) |
| 16:30.11 | tzanger | Beirdo: heheh |
| 16:30.24 | Tall-guy | beirdo: they got one right for me the other day.....honest.....everything was perfect.....I damn near died...... |
| 16:30.24 | MichaelVanD | wxWidgets is supposed to provide you with a single API that you can write to so that your app will recompile and run on other platforms. As I understand it, compliance with platform UI recommendations/norms is a secondary considration. |
| 16:30.35 | Beirdo | wow |
| 16:30.58 | Beirdo | that's impressive, Tall-guy. you sure it wasn't a dream sequence? |
| 16:30.58 | tzanger | MichaelVanD: use qt now that it is also win32 free |
| 16:31.33 | coppice | why? what would that give you? |
| 16:31.38 | tzanger | I never liked wxwindows |
| 16:31.56 | MichaelVanD | and what's my payoff for throwing out the existing code? |
| 16:32.04 | coppice | all windowing systems are a PITA. wxwidgets is not so bad |
| 16:32.08 | tzanger | MichaelVanD: oh I didn't realize you had a ton of existing code |
| 16:32.12 | tzanger | my apologies |
| 16:32.28 | coppice | the lack of a good screen painter is its biggest drawback |
| 16:32.43 | MichaelVanD | I didn't say I have a ton of code. What's my advantage to throwing out 1.4 lbs of code? |
| 16:32.55 | tzanger | coppice: what, you want to get more artistic than with the white-out? |
| 16:33.09 | tzanger | you have a pound and a half of code? |
| 16:33.22 | coppice | on punch cards, yes :-) |
| 16:33.24 | tzanger | are you trying to be amusing or am I just missing the joke |
| 16:33.28 | codebreaker | are ther some webfrontends now available for asterisk? i only find closed source like switchfox or gofon? |
| 16:33.36 | coppice | tzanger: I mean a good dialog designer |
| 16:33.37 | tzanger | there's amp too |
| 16:33.46 | tzanger | coppice: qtdesigner? |
| 16:33.48 | tzanger | what's it called |
| 16:34.00 | coppice | i was talking about wxwidgets |
| 16:34.09 | codebreaker | roamer323: iaxcomm is really good. it fit my needs |
| 16:34.21 | MichaelVanD | XRCed isn't elegant, but it works. But, maybe switching to Qt would make my app no longer substandard |
| 16:34.34 | tzanger | desginer is the binary name |
| 16:35.01 | coppice | XRCed sucks, but it seems to be the best there is |
| 16:36.14 | coppice | I think the biggest problem with wxwidgets is it has lost momentum |
| 16:36.29 | coppice | it seems to be changing very slowly these days |
| 16:36.36 | bjohnson | tzanger: a 1.4 lbs of code approx. = 0.07% of a "ton" of code (since 1 ton = 2000 lbs) |
| 16:37.00 | tzanger | bjohnson: ha |
| 16:37.06 | MichaelVanD | And I really am open to constructive criticism. It's just frustrating that too many people won't take the time to offer it, rather "substandard". |
| 16:37.13 | tzanger | well I didn't say it was a metric ton or an imperial ton |
| 16:37.15 | coppice | 1 ton = 2240 pounds, actually |
| 16:37.24 | tzanger | I usually measure things like this in metric buttloads, personally |
| 16:37.28 | Tall-guy | how many hogsheads in a firkin? |
| 16:37.32 | coppice | metric and imperial are <1% different |
| 16:37.33 | bjohnson | tzanger: no such thing as a metric ton |
| 16:37.36 | bjohnson | it's a tonne |
| 16:37.40 | tzanger | is it a european or north american firkin? |
| 16:37.41 | MichaelVanD | the metric buttload is 11% larger than the imperial |
| 16:37.54 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 16:38.11 | tzanger | MichaelVanD: eh? I'm not criticizing you |
| 16:38.13 | bjohnson | Tall-guy: does it make a firkin's difference? |
| 16:38.29 | bjohnson | we're on metric time here (20 hours a day) |
| 16:38.30 | tzanger | if you don't have a lot of code and wxwindoes is causing you sufficient pain, try something else was all I was saying |
| 16:38.36 | bjohnson | causes confusing with the yanks though |
| 16:38.42 | tzanger | bjohnson: hahaha |
| 16:38.45 | coppice | MichaelVanD: just call it 1.0, so I can starting commiting to CVS |
| 16:38.57 | Tall-guy | bjohnson: was just adding my 2 X 9/5 +32 cents :) |
| 16:39.00 | tzanger | there was an april fool's on CBC a few years ago where they caused quite a stir saying that the govmn't was going to SI units of time |
| 16:39.02 | MichaelVanD | tzanger: I know that. I'm saying: "What's the upside to me throwing out evn 1.5 lbs of code to switch to qt?" |
| 16:39.21 | bjohnson | but with 500 days a year, we get more stuff done in a year than non-metric countries |
| 16:39.28 | tzanger | MichaelVanD: much larger install base, active, flourishing development, commercial support if you need it, etc. |
| 16:39.34 | Beirdo | tzanger: of course, our second IS actually SI, but it's more fun with the spoof |
| 16:39.41 | tzanger | Beirdo: yes |
| 16:39.50 | MichaelVanD | I don't have a ton of code, but it's all written to wxWidgets |
| 16:39.52 | tzanger | what is it, 32000 oscillations of a cesium atom or something? |
| 16:40.08 | tzanger | MichaelVanD: Qt is also C++ not sure if WxWindows is C/C++ or just C |
| 16:40.12 | jesse_132 | Dial("IAX2/NuFone@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:4569/6", "SIP/2000|20|tr") works but Dial("SIP/2001-ccc8", "SIP/2000|20|tr") doesn't ... Any pointers? |
| 16:40.15 | Beirdo | something lame like that, yeah |
| 16:40.25 | Tall-guy | ceisum the day :) |
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| 16:40.26 | coppice | MichaelVanD: It seems like wxwidgets is never gonna move past 2.4.2. It seems to have stagnated |
| 16:41.00 | jedirl | Qt's C++ is far from standard |
| 16:41.29 | coppice | Now Qt has gone GPL for windows I suspect it might get a lot more buyin, and become the standard platform |
| 16:41.43 | MichaelVanD | I'm willing to be convinced, but wxWidgets does what I need in 2.4.2, 2.5.3 *is* in active development with 2.6 slated for release (this summer?) |
| 16:41.44 | coppice | most C++ is far from standard |
| 16:41.46 | jedirl | MichaelVanD: Have you seen FLTK or Fox? |
| 16:41.47 | _m_ | Is there anyone working on CSTA support for *? |
| 16:41.49 | tzanger | coppice: :-) |
| 16:41.58 | bjohnson | err .. maybe the standard platform for people trying to achieve cross-compatibility |
| 16:42.03 | coppice | 2.5.3 has been in the pipeline forever |
| 16:42.08 | jedirl | MichaelVanD: those are simple lightweight and quite powerful toolkits |
| 16:42.24 | coppice | FLTK is good in many ways, but never looks native |
| 16:42.32 | tzanger | jedirl: yeah but you run against hte look |
| 16:42.36 | tzanger | and why the app looks/works "different" |
| 16:42.36 | _m_ | fltk looks nice, indeed, and it is very lightweight. |
| 16:42.38 | coppice | FLTK has a nice dialog designer |
| 16:42.52 | jedirl | I don't think an app really needs to look native |
| 16:43.01 | jedirl | in fact most common windows apps don't look "native" |
| 16:43.06 | tzanger | jedirl: when you're running native apps beside it it does become an issue |
| 16:43.10 | tzanger | in my experience |
| 16:43.15 | coppice | Crap System for Telecoms Applications |
| 16:43.17 | tzanger | jedirl: only the fucked up skinned ones that we don't run anyway |
| 16:43.21 | MichaelVanD | And I could be way wrong on this, but I think that wxWidgets goes a long way to making the application have a more native look and feel that qt |
| 16:43.23 | jedirl | onlhy MacOS takes "native-look" serious |
| 16:43.54 | denon | macos wastes too much time on stupid crap, and not enough time on taking their whole product seriously |
| 16:44.08 | jedirl | I think that an app that has a clean and lightweight interface is enough, but that's just my opinion |
| 16:44.23 | coppice | or Computer Supported Telecommunications Applications |
| 16:44.31 | coppice | depends on your mood |
| 16:44.46 | jedirl | doesn't have to have the buttons exactly the same size and shape than native platform ones |
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| 16:45.07 | _m_ | coppice: I'm leaning towards "crap system" right now. |
| 16:45.25 | coppice | I've done a number of things with FLTK, and it works well. |
| 16:45.46 | tzanger | I am partial to Qt since I am also a KDE user |
| 16:45.51 | tzanger | it's nice to have apps work across both |
| 16:45.59 | coppice | _m_: CSTA is a pain to work with. not enough is tied down by the specs, and you end up with much pain and misery. |
| 16:46.00 | tzanger | and I also use Psi which uses Qt |
| 16:46.24 | _m_ | coppice: I was afraid someone would tell me exactly that. |
| 16:46.40 | jedirl | what is CSTA? |
| 16:46.48 | tzanger | I am very much in favour of ONE cross-platform windowing toolkit that works |
| 16:46.51 | jedirl | is it a standard or something? |
| 16:46.56 | tzanger | instead of a half dozen fighting for #1 |
| 16:47.02 | coppice | actually almost any modern toolkit except GTK works pretty well cross platform |
| 16:47.07 | _m_ | jedirl: ECMA standard |
| 16:47.07 | MichaelVanD | I know that iaxComm looks like a native app on Win98, Win2000 and WinXP. To my untrained eye, it "looks right: on RedHat9 and on OSX. While I know that it doesn't exactly follow Apples guidelines for menu layout, that's to blame on iaxComm, not the toolkit |
| 16:47.18 | jedirl | I don't think GTK works that bad, in fact, GAIM runs smooth on windows |
| 16:47.32 | tzanger | I hate GTK |
| 16:47.38 | coppice | most things using GTK are very troublesome on windows |
| 16:47.40 | tzanger | you want nonstandard, THAT's one fucked-up toolkit |
| 16:48.11 | jedirl | anyone knows how to make H.323 work with *? :) |
| 16:48.15 | coppice | I think GTK is great on Linux. because its in C it plays nicely with everyone. |
| 16:48.19 | tzanger | IMO GTK is more an excercise in how to make C behave like C++ because you don't like C++ rather than a decent toolkit platform |
| 16:48.20 | Zeeek | I think PAN uses GTK fwiw |
| 16:48.34 | tzanger | it's infuriating to use |
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| 16:49.05 | coppice | its biggest problem is the lack of effort put into polishing the windows port. |
| 16:49.06 | tzanger | again though, my opinion only |
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| 16:49.38 | jedirl | I think the solution for a powerful windows GTK is cairo |
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| 16:50.32 | jaiger | has anyone looked at the Mono gtk stuff? |
| 16:50.34 | MichaelVanD | AVG antivirus and Forte Agent are two commercial products that I use that are written using wxWidgets. Audacity is a cross platform app written with wxWidgets |
| 16:51.07 | coppice | audacity might be a bad example. it tried to look non-native everywhere -) |
| 16:51.09 | jedirl | jaiger: I've tried it, small "Hello world" apps , seems great |
| 16:51.34 | MichaelVanD | coppice: point taken ;) |
| 16:51.35 | DsrtZrzmra | Has anybody played with GUI's for Asterisk? |
| 16:52.35 | MichaelVanD | coppice: have you tried iaxComm? |
| 16:53.01 | coppice | coppice == Steve Underwood |
| 16:53.09 | DsrtZrzmra | im trying to implement a GUI: ACTOS seems to be a nice one, but i really want to hear your words before installing a hundred packages and 5 GUIs. |
| 16:53.43 | MichaelVanD | Oh, OK. |
| 16:53.49 | jedirl | off-topic: anyone knows how to make a teles VoIP gateway run SIP? I'm going crazy trying to make asterisk talk H.323 with this crap |
| 16:55.57 | coppice | what iaxcomm needs is not a new toolkit. it needs to move from useful to great, and that means great audio and real useful features. the audio side should initially come from Steve Kann's work. If I have time, I will move it beyond that to state of the art. It needs to work in Unicode, but I have patches to do most of that waiting to commit after 1.0 |
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| 16:58.16 | Ayano | DsrtZrzmra: get a cheap pc, and try asterisk @ home. The new version has a bunch of guis there. |
| 16:58.18 | Nugget | DsrtZrzmra: there are several good asterisk GUIs which are servicable for delegating or simplifying the more tedious aspects of asterisk management. If you're hoping to ifnd a GUI which will allow you to avoid having to learn how to edit the config files, though, you will be very dissatisfied with the options. |
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| 16:58.43 | Ayano | Nugget: So true. |
| 16:58.49 | MichaelVanD | Are you waiting for the library to be declared 1.0? |
| 16:59.02 | Nugget | it is simply not possible (nor, imho, should it be) to deploy asterisk without developing an understanding of the various config files. |
| 17:00.02 | coppice | No. Any good library never reaches 1.0 :-) I am waiting for iaxcomm to reach 1.0 before commiting anything more than bugfixes. |
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| 17:05.18 | MichaelVanD | I have no bug reports for 1.0rc2 for windows. I have a bug report that it sometimes hangs on exit under linux. You and I have discussed the hang on exit probem, and I understand that it works for you now, right? |
| 17:06.01 | coppice | that works for me now. things still sometimes go wrong in the conf menus, though. Seemd erratic |
| 17:06.25 | MichaelVanD | Anything more specific? |
| 17:06.54 | coppice | nothing more than I reported before |
| 17:07.13 | ChulJin | is anyone else not able to resolve cvs.digium.com? or am I just using 'bad' DNS servers? |
| 17:07.41 | brenda | Is that Xorcom any good? |
| 17:09.42 | malcolmd | ChulJin: Bad storms took ous out. |
| 17:09.58 | malcolmd | ous = us |
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| 17:15.09 | zoa | we will release a new iaxphone soon |
| 17:15.12 | zoa | still working on it |
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| 17:15.46 | coppice | YAIAXP, maybe? |
| 17:16.23 | ariel_ | brenda, I have not used it But it should get you started on a basic setup. |
| 17:16.34 | ariel_ | looks like digium and the mailing list is down. |
| 17:16.53 | stevekstevek | hey Steves :) |
| 17:16.59 | malcolmd | yes, we're down right now |
| 17:17.22 | coppice | what is it about softphones that seems to make most people incapable of cooperating to make one of real worth |
| 17:17.35 | stevekstevek | coppice: I dunno. |
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| 17:18.05 | stevekstevek | Everyone wants to do their own thing.. At least now most people are using the same library.. |
| 17:18.10 | coppice | I think the main attraction of developing yet another softphone is the potential to make 133t skin for it :-) |
| 17:18.29 | MichaelVanD | coppice: I didn't know that you still had your nose out of joint about me losing one diff over a year ago. "Incapable of cooperating?" |
| 17:18.31 | stevekstevek | 'could have made it GPL, which would have at least forced source to be out there.. but that wouldn't necessarily force cooperation. |
| 17:19.06 | zoa | hey steves yes :) |
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| 17:19.10 | PTG123 | Feb 21 11:23:18 WARNING[784]: chan_sip.c:728 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 289cd1e64ca8e27037efa6f717d2b003@66.55.69.242 for seqno 102 (Non-critical Request) |
| 17:19.11 | coppice | MichaelVanD: I wasn't referring to that. I was refering to the proliferation of second rate crap phones |
| 17:19.14 | PTG123 | anyone know what that is from? |
| 17:19.18 | zoa | stevek, the lib is great |
| 17:19.22 | user1fn | anyone familiar with using cdr_odbc and mysql? |
| 17:19.25 | zoa | its for very fast development |
| 17:19.31 | ChulJin | malcolm: ah OK thanks. :( |
| 17:19.45 | malcolmd | ChulJin: yup :( |
| 17:21.39 | ariel_ | PTG123, network issues |
| 17:23.52 | PTG123 | ariel: what type of network issues? |
| 17:24.51 | stevekstevek | OK, I've finally caught up.. |
| 17:25.20 | Zeeek | PTG like when a SIP phone can't be reached |
| 17:25.21 | stevekstevek | at some point there, I thought Coppice and Mvand were going to start throwing things at each other.. |
| 17:25.28 | Nugget | heh |
| 17:25.50 | coppice | eh? |
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| 17:26.59 | stevekstevek | just seemed like you were offering (mostly valid) criticism, and Michael was starting to see it more personally. |
| 17:27.12 | coppice | a couple of years ago people joked about ghello projects on freshmeat. Its probably time for gphone jokes |
| 17:27.30 | Lloydio | Hi, i got a real strange problem with a x100p card is there anyone that knows abit about them? |
| 17:27.42 | coppice | Michael's just a very sensitive guy. :-) |
| 17:28.05 | Nugget | nothing will ever top FSF's hello world, which is self-modifying and includes a mail reader. |
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| 17:28.26 | fishboy1669 | hi guys |
| 17:28.27 | Zeeek | Lloydio say it |
| 17:28.38 | Lloydio | well its quite long |
| 17:28.50 | Zeeek | then don't |
| 17:28.51 | stevekstevek | coppice: I did more research into the pareto stuff, and it seems like it's more expensive than just keeping the last 500 timestamps in a buffer, and actually going through them.. |
| 17:28.55 | Lloydio | it answers the phone and after that it doesnt put down the phone, if i pick the phone up i get no dial tone and when i put the phone back down and pick it up again i get a dial tone |
| 17:28.55 | Lloydio | <Lloydio> but then its picks up the phone again after 60 seconds |
| 17:28.57 | user1fn | agian... has anyone got cdr_odbc working? |
| 17:29.02 | Ayano | is there anything special to hook up a ip500 to asterisk? A friend of mine said he set it up and it is not even trying to authenticate. |
| 17:29.04 | coppice | phones aren't like that. phones don't expand until they can handle mail. they get half developed and then abandoned |
| 17:29.32 | Zeeek | Lloydio what country are you in ? |
| 17:29.37 | Lloydio | UK |
| 17:29.41 | BrianR___ | I had to firmware upgrade my polycom ip600 to get sip registration that actually worked |
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| 17:29.56 | coppice | stevestevek: what's pareto? |
| 17:30.14 | Ayano | I gave him that suggestion already, I know they don't work out of the box for most polycomm. |
| 17:30.23 | Ayano | I think he is trying now. |
| 17:30.28 | Zeeek | Lloydio you have your X100 connected to what? BT line? |
| 17:30.31 | stevekstevek | Pareto distribution. |
| 17:30.42 | Lloydio | yes a BT line |
| 17:30.43 | BrianR___ | the web site linked from the voip info wiki has working firmware and the user guide |
| 17:30.46 | Lloydio | analogue one |
| 17:31.06 | stevekstevek | Basically, one of these JB papers talked about estimating the parameters of a Pareto distribution, in order to be able to estimate jb parameters |
| 17:31.07 | Zeeek | so it answers when the line rings and then never hangs up? |
| 17:31.14 | stevekstevek | based on certain loss percentage. |
| 17:31.17 | Lloydio | yes thats correct |
| 17:31.23 | BrianR___ | I do think I need to fix the g729 passthru in asterisk - or I have it misconfigured somewhere... |
| 17:31.40 | fishboy1669 | has anyone here used cli on x100p in uk |
| 17:31.59 | Zeeek | Lloydio have you scanned the mailing list and the wiki? BT is full of challenges for the X100P cards |
| 17:32.10 | coppice | stevestevek: I think that's the wrong approach |
| 17:32.16 | stevekstevek | but, (a) the algorithm they used in their papers didn't seem to work for me [has problems with delays of zero or negative amounts, at least], and (b) seems more expensive than just doing it manually. |
| 17:32.29 | Lloydio | yes its been a nightmare i have been searching for a good day |
| 17:32.57 | stevekstevek | coppice: I'd appreciate ideas you might have.. |
| 17:33.01 | Zeeek | only 1 day? That's nothing! |
| 17:33.23 | Lloydio | hehe :P |
| 17:33.52 | Zeeek | I see threads called Digium cards connecting to BT in UK |
| 17:34.03 | junky[work] | whats that exactly |
| 17:34.03 | junky[work] | Feb 20 11:16:07 WARNING[10091]: Unable to set linear mode on channel 69 |
| 17:34.06 | junky[work] | ? |
| 17:34.30 | Lloydio | i have seen alot of people have success with the cable companies and ISDN but none really clarifying that they are using a analogue line |
| 17:34.46 | Lloydio | ok Zeek ill have alook at that |
| 17:34.50 | Lloydio | Thanks ;) |
| 17:34.55 | Zeeek | Lloydio there are many posts from UK with problems with both X100P and TDM400 FXO |
| 17:35.06 | Zeeek | I see no solutions, only people with problems |
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| 17:35.33 | BrianR___ | I ordered a whole bunch of x100p knockoffs on eBay |
| 17:35.55 | fishboy1669 | lloydio what is your issue with the x100p? |
| 17:35.59 | Lloydio | mmmm |
| 17:36.07 | fishboy1669 | anyone used x100p with bt cli? |
| 17:36.25 | Zeeek | fishboy you're in UK? |
| 17:36.27 | Lloydio | it answers the phone but then doesnt put the phone down |
| 17:36.31 | |Vulture| | there really is no reason to use a x100p other than testing... the TDMs are more practicle |
| 17:36.51 | Zeeek | people in UK rae having problems with TDM4xx FXO |
| 17:36.53 | Zebble | i've found that the x100p is more "forgiving" on some lines than the TDM FXO modules. |
| 17:36.55 | fishboy1669 | is it an officeal x100p? |
| 17:37.00 | Lloydio | i pick up the phone and put it down and when i pick it up again the dial tone apears |
| 17:37.03 | fishboy1669 | hey llydio where u based? |
| 17:37.13 | |Vulture| | Zebble: for echo? |
| 17:37.35 | Lloydio | Bournemouth , Dorset |
| 17:37.37 | Zebble | |Vulture|: nah, for lines being left in an off-hook state. |
| 17:38.09 | |Vulture| | ah Ive only had a problem with 1 office, but thats on the telco side.. not sending hangup |
| 17:38.26 | BrianR___ | even when terminating on a real pbx, analog trunks need a lot of tuning to make everything go echo-free |
| 17:38.42 | Zebble | Asterisk isn't a real PBX? :) |
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| 17:39.28 | BrianR___ | heh.. Certainly not on the scale of my previous employer's dms100 :) |
| 17:39.35 | Zebble | is the digium.com domain down for anybody else? cvs.digium.com isn't responding (DNS servers can't be reached) |
| 17:39.56 | ChulJin | 'If it's not proprietary, it's not "real".' - Lucent marketing materials |
| 17:39.57 | Shrink | hi, having a problem with the avm c4 card - whenever I make an outgoing call the console says everybody is busy |
| 17:40.08 | Zebble | ah.. there it goes. Digium is responding again... |
| 17:40.12 | ChulJin | Zebble: per malcolm, it was taken out by a storm |
| 17:40.18 | Zebble | ChulJin: very true. |
| 17:40.26 | Zebble | ouch! seems to be backup now. |
| 17:40.34 | Shrink | I've followed the wiki entries on voip-info.org but no luck |
| 17:41.13 | Zebble | or not. DNS is responding, but no CVS. oh well. |
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| 17:41.20 | BrianR___ | Asterisk is real enough for me... We're considering inflicting it on around 300 people... |
| 17:41.31 | Essobi | MAha |
| 17:42.13 | coppice | stevestevek: There are several people who have tried something interesting in the last year or two. I may have mentioned it to you. I was thinking along similar lines, but with a few differences. These all use a modified WSOLA scheme. I want to try a modified PICOLA, which should be more efficient. I also find different patterns of delay behaviour in the jitter from what most papers are... |
| 17:42.15 | coppice | ...showing, and that makes we want to try some other differences. |
| 17:42.16 | coppice | This has some wave files to listen to: http://ivms.stanford.edu/~liang/research/sigproc2/ |
| 17:42.18 | coppice | and here are some papers on the topic (I can't find the paper with the most interesting practical results at the moment): |
| 17:42.20 | coppice | http://ivms.stanford.edu/~liang/ research/publications/icassp01.pdf |
| 17:42.21 | coppice | http://www.tsp.ece.mcgill.ca/Kabal/ papers/2003/ShallwaniC2003.pdf |
| 17:42.23 | coppice | http://netmedia.kjist.ac.kr/old_home/ jongwon/papers/2002pa-jinyong.pdf |
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| 17:42.46 | Jackthe | Hello, I'm looking for the sourcefiles of the iaxclient for some testing, does someone know where I can download those in a tarball or something like that? |
| 17:43.35 | Zebble | ~google iaxclient source |
| 17:44.14 | jsolares | anyone know of a voip provider that has unlimited calls plan and byod and iax2? |
| 17:44.40 | Zebble | www.spectravoice.com - you have to ask specifically for IAX2 |
| 17:45.14 | jsolares | thanks, i'll look at their website |
| 17:45.25 | greg_work | jsolares: "unlimited calls" plans are not as good as you might think |
| 17:45.30 | fishboy1669 | hi zeek yes |
| 17:45.31 | Jackthe | jbot, thanks but I already tried that one |
| 17:45.31 | jbot | no worries, Jackthe |
| 17:45.44 | jsolares | greg_work: why? |
| 17:45.49 | fishboy1669 | i hav just found the wiki details for a x100p cli patch |
| 17:46.01 | greg_work | jsolares: you can get DID's at a lot of places for a couple dollars a month, plus 1 - 2 cents/min usage .. |
| 17:46.10 | greg_work | (less if you're doing very high volumes) |
| 17:46.16 | Jackthe | jbot, they show the sourceforge site but won't give me an actual download of the tarball |
| 17:46.39 | greg_work | most of time you have to use around 3000minutes before the 'unlimited' part pays off |
| 17:46.48 | stepcut | jsolares: I believe voicepulse offers iax2 |
| 17:46.55 | techie | heh 'unlimited' |
| 17:46.56 | jsolares | well i dont need DID's, and they're going to be set up at a remote location, think a rural community in central america. and they *might* go for more than 3000 minutes |
| 17:47.02 | fishboy1669 | i havent had any experience of the tdm cards |
| 17:47.05 | jsolares | stepcut: thanks |
| 17:47.07 | Jackthe | so I was wondering if someone here has it, I need the C-code for some testing |
| 17:47.36 | stepcut | jsolares: I have no experience with them, but they do seem to be iax+unlimited+byod (they explicity mention asterisk) |
| 17:48.09 | stepcut | jsolares: they talk mostly about sip on their promo material, but if you search the web for iax2 and voicepulse.. |
| 17:48.35 | stepcut | jsolares: or look at this page: http://www.iaxtel.com/sponsors.html |
| 17:48.46 | jsolares | :D thanks a bunch |
| 17:48.54 | fishboy1669 | foobar anyone know where to get the uk bt cli patch for the x100p |
| 17:49.11 | kpfleming | jsolares: exactly what do you need? I can provide origination via IAX2 at a flat-rate |
| 17:49.42 | jsolares | i need to be able to setup up IAXy's directly to the provider and make calls into the US |
| 17:49.53 | jsolares | no need for DID's |
| 17:50.19 | Zeeek | nufone |
| 17:50.21 | kpfleming | so you want IAX2 termination, not orignation |
| 17:50.28 | jsolares | yep |
| 17:50.35 | kpfleming | how many ATAs would be invovled? |
| 17:50.54 | jsolares | from 5 to 40, each could be a separate account |
| 17:51.11 | kpfleming | but you'd rather they all be a single account sharing the pool of channels/minutes, i'm sure |
| 17:51.41 | jsolares | i really dont know the volume to expect, which is why i'm looking for unlimited and not get burned if they use a bunch |
| 17:51.58 | kpfleming | you want unlimited 1+ dialing? (US/Canada LD) |
| 17:52.05 | jsolares | yes |
| 17:52.12 | kpfleming | hmm... you know that's not going to be cheap |
| 17:52.30 | jsolares | oh i know, but i want to know how much is not cheap |
| 17:52.32 | JerJer | at this point in the game, there is no such thing as unlimited |
| 17:52.40 | techie | so true |
| 17:52.45 | kpfleming | not truly unlimited, thats true |
| 17:53.12 | kpfleming | i would do it based on a number of simultaneous channels, each allowed a reasonable amount of LD per month |
| 17:53.51 | jsolares | what range per ATA per month in price are you thinking of? |
| 17:54.08 | greg_work | jsolares: how are you charging this out to people, or is it a free service you're providing? |
| 17:54.11 | kpfleming | it would be per channel, you can have as many ATAs sharing those chanenls as you want |
| 17:54.31 | kpfleming | per channel would probably be $30-$35 per month, something like that |
| 17:54.48 | jsolares | greg_work: it's still a plan on it's infancy, i need to know costs to set up the chargin price |
| 17:55.12 | kpfleming | the advantage of "channels" is that you can add them when you need them, if your users are getting busy signals you just add more channels :-) |
| 17:55.18 | greg_work | jsolares: well, wouldn't getting a per-min plan be better than? you can offer it cheap, and just charge per min |
| 17:55.38 | jsolares | greg_work: the hassle of chargin per minute is what i'm trying to avoid |
| 17:55.40 | greg_work | and that way, if they use a ton of minutes and it costs you a lot, you get a lot of revenue as well so ti works out |
| 17:55.48 | kpfleming | revenue is good :-) |
| 17:56.27 | jsolares | kpfleming: pm contact info so we can discuss this further :) |
| 17:56.31 | greg_work | jsolares: you can do it with accounts, to avoid the 'hassle'. |
| 17:56.45 | greg_work | put $10 on a calling card, then you can make calls until you use that up |
| 17:56.53 | greg_work | * has a calling card application |
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| 17:57.25 | jsolares | it's still a hassle for me and the customer, it is a good thing and i know it works, but it wouldnt for me, atleast not how the ata's would be set up |
| 17:57.28 | greg_work | (a "calling card" could just be an account number, you don't have to make up physical cards) |
| 17:57.53 | Hmmhesays | yeah, but it's damn near easier just to whip up an agi cc app |
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| 18:03.10 | fishboy1669 | hi guys |
| 18:03.12 | fishboy1669 | hows life |
| 18:03.20 | fishboy1669 | anyone winning today? |
| 18:03.23 | Delvar | night all! |
| 18:03.24 | fishboy1669 | i was but not now |
| 18:03.26 | fishboy1669 | lol |
| 18:03.31 | Delvar | :) |
| 18:03.32 | fishboy1669 | delvar night |
| 18:03.43 | fishboy1669 | i think hes scared of me?! |
| 18:03.45 | fishboy1669 | lol |
| 18:03.50 | Delvar | just a bit |
| 18:03.56 | fishboy1669 | he he |
| 18:03.57 | Delvar | you seem a bit too jolly |
| 18:04.09 | fishboy1669 | its 6pm home time |
| 18:04.17 | fishboy1669 | good enought reason to be jolly |
| 18:04.31 | fishboy1669 | on top of getting my phones to show the time and dl config of server |
| 18:04.41 | fishboy1669 | cant get my x100p to do cli though |
| 18:04.42 | fishboy1669 | :( |
| 18:04.56 | fishboy1669 | what i have read up till now is that the patch dont work no more |
| 18:05.05 | fishboy1669 | and cant see any mention of a new one :((((( |
| 18:05.08 | terrapen | ugh i hate html |
| 18:05.25 | fishboy1669 | why whats wrong with it? |
| 18:05.36 | fishboy1669 | thml |
| 18:05.40 | fishboy1669 | lmht |
| 18:05.41 | terrapen | trying to do fancy things without javascript is hard |
| 18:05.48 | fishboy1669 | aha i see |
| 18:05.50 | fishboy1669 | yes |
| 18:05.58 | fishboy1669 | but html is just for text really |
| 18:06.02 | fishboy1669 | dhtml is what u need |
| 18:06.09 | fishboy1669 | if u wanna be a record breaker |
| 18:06.10 | fishboy1669 | lol |
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| 18:09.34 | fishboy1669 | christ i have scared everyone off!!!! |
| 18:09.37 | fishboy1669 | booo hooo |
| 18:10.14 | Zeeek | yep you did it nopw! |
| 18:10.42 | Zeeek | "Concerto for Piano, Voice and 500 Screaming A**holes - DVD VIDEO" |
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| 18:14.33 | harryvv | Seems like everyone and there perents own some kind of phone releated domain name. |
| 18:16.10 | fishboy1669 | lol |
| 18:16.18 | greg_work | you know, theres really a steep learning curve in the voip and really telephone industry in general |
| 18:16.28 | fishboy1669 | yes |
| 18:16.30 | fishboy1669 | there is |
| 18:16.38 | fishboy1669 | thats why were the unsung heros |
| 18:16.43 | greg_work | someone just came in my office and saw "Order 800 DID's" on a webpage on my screen, and asked "what are DIDs and why do you want 800 of them?" |
| 18:16.45 | fishboy1669 | and i still dont get paid enough |
| 18:16.46 | fishboy1669 | sob |
| 18:16.48 | fishboy1669 | sob |
| 18:16.50 | fishboy1669 | bob |
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| 18:17.09 | harryvv | greg heheh |
| 18:17.28 | fishboy1669 | lol greg tell them there digitally integrated dildos and u are going to resell them on ebay |
| 18:17.32 | dsmouse | greg_work: I have no idea why you would want 800 of them... unless of course you started resaleing thme |
| 18:17.45 | dsmouse | blah |
| 18:17.49 | jesse_132 | Trying to figure out what is wrong... No NAT involved -- Working: Internal IAX->SIP, IAX->IAX, internal SIP->external IAX -- NOT working: Internal SIP->Internal SIP , Interal SIP->Interal IAX |
| 18:17.52 | junky[work] | ~agi api |
| 18:17.54 | jbot | i heard agi api is at http://home.cogeco.ca/~camstuff/agi.html |
| 18:18.07 | fishboy1669 | ~did |
| 18:18.08 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, did is Direct Inward Dialing |
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| 18:18.11 | greg_work | lol dsmouse it meant 800 as in "toll-free" |
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| 18:18.19 | dsmouse | I know :) |
| 18:18.28 | dsmouse | But that's not what he ASKED |
| 18:18.34 | Hmmhesays | hmmm could I get away with 8 fxo and 4fxs ports in a single p4 2.8ghz ? |
| 18:18.46 | greg_work | no but my point was more .. to someone who knows nothing about it, the webpages are really confusing |
| 18:18.50 | Conductor | what options do i have to set to my kernel 2.6 config to make it work with a Digium E100 Card + Asterisk*? |
| 18:19.02 | JerJer | Hmmhesays: using a TE405P and TA750, sure |
| 18:19.11 | dahunter | Is it possible to record every phone call? You know do something like Play "This call may be recorded for quality purposes" and then do something like a Backgroundrecord(somefile:gsm) |
| 18:19.38 | yashax | Guys, can someone please assist me in upgrading the firmware for Polycom IP500 from Altigen to SIP? Thank you.... |
| 18:19.41 | harryvv | dahunter yes. BTW, what are the laws concerning recording calls on a server? |
| 18:19.45 | JerJer | dahunter: show application Monitor |
| 18:20.31 | dahunter | harryvv: Well, in California, you have to alert them that you are going to record them. |
| 18:20.31 | greg_work | oh btw, i was meaning to ask.. i attempted using fax with a SPA-2000, and although it kinda worked, and i could probably tweak it a bit, its just not worth the hassle to me .. if i was to get a TDM400P with an fxs port, would it work properly? is anyone doing faxing with fxs and fxo ports right in the * machine? |
| 18:20.31 | dsmouse | harryvv: vary state by state. In some states you have to have concent from all parties, some states only need one party to agree to it |
| 18:20.32 | harryvv | dahunter okay like " this call may be recorded for quality assurance" :) |
| 18:20.38 | dsmouse | consent rather |
| 18:20.43 | Hmmhesays | thanks, i didn't even want to attempt it if it were a pointless venture |
| 18:20.50 | dahunter | harryvv: Yes, but allow them to opt out if they object. |
| 18:20.53 | Ayano | harryvv: What kind of laws? |
| 18:21.00 | jesse_132 | is asterisk.org down? |
| 18:21.10 | dsmouse | Ayano: for recording phone calls |
| 18:21.12 | Hmmhesays | it seems digiums site is down |
| 18:21.22 | JerJer | DNS is hosed |
| 18:21.24 | dsmouse | dahunter: like to hang up? |
| 18:21.31 | dahunter | dsmouse: Sure ;) |
| 18:21.36 | fishboy1669 | any one know if this is still a valid patch? |
| 18:21.37 | jesse_132 | anyone know the ip to ftp.asterisk.org? |
| 18:21.37 | fishboy1669 | http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-dev@lists.digium.com/msg04797.html |
| 18:21.38 | Hmmhesays | must be some sun spots |
| 18:21.49 | dsmouse | hrms. |
| 18:21.50 | Ayano | dsmouse: But what do they prohibit or whatever. |
| 18:22.02 | jesse_132 | nevermind... voip-info has mirrors listed |
| 18:22.36 | Hmmhesays | now if someone had digium's ip that I could add to my host list |
| 18:22.37 | dsmouse | Ayano: recording a phone call without consent of [one|all] of the party(s) involved? |
| 18:22.39 | Hmmhesays | that would be helpful |
| 18:23.25 | JerJer | Hmmhesays: 69.16.138.164 |
| 18:23.35 | Ayano | dsmouse: Oh, I knew that, but as long as you are warned, or know that it could be recorded, it puts you in the clear though right? |
| 18:23.41 | harryvv | I think the police here dont say to the interviewed party thay are being recorded while in interagation then transcribe all there words on msword for legal reasons. |
| 18:23.58 | yashax | Guys, anyone? |
| 18:24.10 | Ayano | CA doesn't either, and all highway patrol carry recorders. |
| 18:24.10 | dsmouse | harryvv: is that over the phone? |
| 18:24.22 | harryvv | dsmouse no thats at the police station. |
| 18:24.35 | dsmouse | then it's not recording a phone call :) |
| 18:25.01 | Ayano | dsmouse: Oh, I knew that, but as long as you are warned, or know that it could be recorded, it puts you in the clear though right? |
| 18:25.13 | dsmouse | sure |
| 18:25.21 | dsmouse | afaict |
| 18:25.32 | dsmouse | ianal, btw |
| 18:25.48 | Ayano | ? |
| 18:26.06 | dsmouse | sure, as far as I can tell. I am not a lawyer, by the way. |
| 18:26.48 | harryvv | i would have no use for it though unless we got harrasment calls. |
| 18:27.07 | Ayano | I was just wondering. You do have some sort of knowledge obviously. Other wise I wouldn't ask. |
| 18:27.18 | Ayano | You guys are great. |
| 18:27.19 | harryvv | of what |
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| 18:27.54 | harryvv | I was hopping a package would arive today but its a holliday in the states and its hung in limbo. |
| 18:27.54 | harryvv | ;) |
| 18:27.55 | dsmouse | Ayano: I've read a few cases and stuff; nothing spectacular |
| 18:27.56 | DJ-Pyro | speaking of which, is there an easy way to start recording the call if someone hits a key (say *) during the middle of a call? |
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| 18:28.19 | malcolmd | bbiab... |
| 18:28.33 | harryvv | DJ you mean a hot key |
| 18:28.34 | jesse_132 | DJ-Pyro: yep... |
| 18:28.44 | jesse_132 | DJ-Pyro: but then it would be heard by the other party |
| 18:28.58 | jesse_132 | DJ-Pyro: if you have a phone that supports hot-keys, you can make it silent... |
| 18:29.21 | Ayano | dsmouse: That's more than I have. |
| 18:29.37 | DJ-Pyro | jesse_132: any guidance on how to begin something like that? |
| 18:29.39 | harryvv | btw, asterisk does say anouncements in different languages? |
| 18:29.46 | Ayano | DJ-Pyro: you can create a script to do it from a computer.... |
| 18:30.03 | jesse_132 | DJ-Pyro: you seen voip-info.org yet? |
| 18:30.23 | DJ-Pyro | jesse_132: yeah, I'm just looking for a keyword to search on |
| 18:30.23 | Ayano | click a button and it starts recording. |
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| 18:30.55 | harryvv | We have a mail service carrier that gets alot of calls from BC and thay have a hard time understanding what thay are asking because of there accent. Mostly manadarin and punjabi are spoken. |
| 18:31.01 | jesse_132 | it used to be done with a meetme hack... Ayano is it just monitor now? |
| 18:31.28 | dsmouse | harryvv: yea... |
| 18:31.28 | harryvv | Thay ask probebly simular questions about there mail or packages. |
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| 18:31.54 | harryvv | dsmouse what options would that be |
| 18:32.02 | bjohnson | Ayano: I think you can record in Canada if the people are notified but that recording cannot be used in any kind of legal case (I'm not a lawyer either). I'm pretty sure cops recording a witnesses statements are not valid either, they have to be transcribed and signed |
| 18:32.14 | Ayano | jesse_132: I have only done it with a meetme hack,,, but I from what I understand it is just as easy through monitor. |
| 18:32.33 | Ayano | I see. |
| 18:32.34 | bjohnson | I think the only time recordings can be used as evidence is if it is done with a warrant |
| 18:32.45 | dsmouse | bjohnson: no |
| 18:32.45 | jesse_132 | so DJ-Pyro your keywords are meetme/monitor ;) |
| 18:33.44 | dsmouse | bjohnson: it should be allowed as long as it's legal to make it and you[or someone] can testify as to it's origins. |
| 18:33.49 | Ayano | DJ-Pyro: the setup to record a meetme is easy. Just create a file with specific data and drop it to the spooler dir, and it starts the recording. |
| 18:33.55 | dsmouse | and that it hasn't been edited |
| 18:34.03 | dahunter | What's wrong with this: s,2,Monitor:wav:("/usr/pl/${EPOCH}.wav") |
| 18:34.05 | Beirdo | good luck proving that |
| 18:34.21 | Ayano | Looks right. |
| 18:34.42 | mtqh | no .wav? |
| 18:34.57 | *** join/#asterisk sangee (ravi@209.250.129.135) |
| 18:34.58 | dahunter | Do I need to do something special to enable it, I keep getting: No application 'Monitor:wav:' for extension (incoming, s, 2) |
| 18:35.01 | dsmouse | Beirdo: if you heard it, and then you say "Yes, that sounds correct" it would probably be enough |
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| 18:35.18 | Beirdo | heh |
| 18:35.34 | bjohnson | dsmouse: I'm not going to argue legal technicalities because frankly, I don't know anything about them |
| 18:35.44 | mtqh | dsmouse.... please to a show application montior |
| 18:35.55 | Beirdo | "Yeah, that sounds like what I remember from 2 years ago"... that doesn't say it hasn't been modified, and I doubt you could testify to that |
| 18:36.14 | Beirdo | do you remember stuff like that perfectly after a long time? |
| 18:36.16 | dsmouse | mtqh: erhm? |
| 18:36.29 | Beirdo | long time meaning >= 1 day |
| 18:36.30 | jesse_132 | mtqh: do "show application monitor" in your console |
| 18:36.45 | mtqh | ok so I can't spell |
| 18:36.51 | dsmouse | bjohnson: true |
| 18:36.59 | jesse_132 | mtqh: sorry, I meant to write that to dsmouse ;) |
| 18:37.15 | dsmouse | bjohnson: this is just a friendly discussion, of course :) |
| 18:37.18 | sangee | I want to send hard codeed ANI (always "9058049111") when i dial out how to do that? |
| 18:37.37 | mtqh | sangee Show application setcallerid |
| 18:39.50 | dsmouse | anyway |
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| 18:44.24 | |Vulture| | anyone else unable to resolve proxy.mia.boradvoice.com? |
| 18:44.41 | kpfleming | 'mia' seems very appropriate |
| 18:44.50 | Sedorox | [13:44] Host proxy.mia.boradvoice.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 18:44.56 | dsmouse | boradvoice? |
| 18:45.08 | Sedorox | [13:44] Host proxy.mia.broadvoice.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 18:45.11 | dsmouse | not broadvoice? |
| 18:45.11 | Sedorox | er |
| 18:45.19 | Sedorox | I just copied what he said |
| 18:45.21 | dsmouse | proxy.mia.broadvoice.com has address 147.135.4.128 |
| 18:45.24 | Sedorox | he spelled it wrong.. |
| 18:45.32 | Sedorox | yea.. I get the same thing |
| 18:45.34 | |Vulture| | hahaha |
| 18:45.36 | Sedorox | when spelled right :-p |
| 18:45.36 | Zeeek | anyone tried chanspy? |
| 18:45.44 | |Vulture| | they have it spelled wrong in their install info |
| 18:45.50 | |Vulture| | http://www.broadvoice.com/support_install_asterisk.html |
| 18:45.54 | Sedorox | interesting |
| 18:46.03 | |Vulture| | thanx for pointing that out... I just did a copy/paste |
| 18:46.08 | Sedorox | ajaha |
| 18:46.09 | Sedorox | nice |
| 18:46.12 | Hmmhesays | no, but you can write a script pretty easily to transfer 2 calls into a meetme room |
| 18:46.35 | Sedorox | hehe, then they gget the little noise that they've joined |
| 18:46.50 | Hmmhesays | turn the little noise off |
| 18:46.58 | Hmmhesays | you can transfer to meetme silently |
| 18:47.27 | Sedorox | interesting |
| 18:47.38 | Hmmhesays | in fact if you want a gui based way to do it, check out FOP |
| 18:47.47 | Hmmhesays | you can barge in on a call easily |
| 18:49.45 | Hmmhesays | if you want to do it with an extension... it's pretty easy with an agi, you can send a manager command to redirect to meetme |
| 18:51.51 | *** join/#asterisk denon (denon@synapse.subneural.net) |
| 18:51.51 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o denon] by ChanServ |
| 18:51.59 | FuRR_ | Hmmhesays: is there anyway you can do a barge without MeetMe |
| 18:52.06 | FuRR_ | say, you want to interupt a call in progress |
| 18:52.36 | Manipura | Anyone know where I can find more info on mysql realtime other than the wiki? |
| 18:52.45 | Hmmhesays | and have 3 way calling? |
| 18:53.01 | Hmmhesays | * 3 way conference |
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| 18:53.30 | bkw_ | can anyone else get to bugs.digium.com? |
| 18:53.34 | FuRR_ | Hmmhesays: no, more of an administrative operator thing |
| 18:53.47 | Hmmhesays | you want to barge in and listen to a call right? |
| 18:53.50 | denon | bkw: doesnt look promising |
| 18:53.57 | FuRR_ | like with the pstn where an operator can barge to tell you that someone is trying to get through |
| 18:54.01 | denon | bkw: especially since it doesnt resolve |
| 18:54.11 | Hmmhesays | use meetme |
| 18:54.12 | bkw_ | OH |
| 18:54.14 | Hmmhesays | it's not hard |
| 18:54.23 | Zeeek | I'm getting bugs.digium.com |
| 18:54.34 | denon | Zeeek: you must have it cached |
| 18:54.43 | Zeeek | not me - but maybe provider |
| 18:54.48 | denon | the dns, that is, not the content |
| 18:54.54 | Hmmhesays | unless you want to brush up on your programming skills and make chanspy work |
| 18:54.55 | Zeeek | ya |
| 18:54.56 | denon | content is probably just fine |
| 18:55.02 | denon | whats the ip? |
| 18:55.07 | Zeeek | APPLICATION ERROR #1100 |
| 18:55.07 | Zeeek | Bug 2379 not found. |
| 18:55.08 | Zeeek | actually.... "APPLICATION ERROR #1100" |
| 18:55.37 | Zeeek | [69.16.138.164] |
| 18:55.52 | bkw_ | or you can pay anthm to install chanspy |
| 18:56.04 | Zeeek | does chanspy work? |
| 18:56.07 | Hmmhesays | does chanspy work? |
| 18:56.10 | bkw_ | yes |
| 18:56.12 | Hmmhesays | LOL |
| 18:56.19 | Zeeek | does it? well ? well? |
| 18:56.36 | Zeeek | does it make beds, clean floors |
| 18:56.36 | bkw_ | yes |
| 18:56.39 | bkw_ | no |
| 18:56.42 | denon | bkw: echo 69.16.138.164 bugs.digium.com >> /etc/hosts :) |
| 18:57.12 | Zeeek | one of the few times DNS cacheing helped ;) |
| 18:57.42 | denon | zeeek: yeah .. looks like all of digium's dns is borked |
| 18:57.54 | bkw_ | and the fun part is I really do have /etc/hosts on my desktop machine now |
| 18:57.56 | Zeeek | shit happens |
| 18:58.09 | jesse_132 | woot |
| 18:58.38 | denon | hmm |
| 18:58.46 | denon | it looks like he forgot to renew digium.com, until today |
| 18:59.04 | denon | so maybe not so much dns, as registrar |
| 18:59.05 | Zeeek | did't this already happen once? |
| 18:59.11 | denon | think that was asterisk.org |
| 18:59.24 | Zeeek | ah yes - you geek-devel guys are sooooo lax on that shit :) |
| 18:59.32 | denon | dont look at me |
| 18:59.35 | Zeeek | can't afford $8 a year |
| 18:59.37 | Sedorox | digium is still register |
| 18:59.47 | denon | Sedorox: they renewed today I think |
| 18:59.52 | denon | and you mean Registrant |
| 18:59.55 | Sedorox | well I got whois info back... |
| 19:00.02 | Sedorox | [13:59] Expires on: 21-FEB-06 |
| 19:00.02 | Sedorox | [13:59] Last Updated on: 01-FEB-05 |
| 19:00.38 | redder86 | Why the *heck* are they only registering for a year at a time?!? |
| 19:00.42 | denon | hmm .. you know .. |
| 19:00.46 | denon | all the nameservers are borked .. |
| 19:00.49 | sangee | it's working thanks (mtqh) |
| 19:00.50 | denon | it may actually be a real dns issue |
| 19:00.55 | *** join/#asterisk Zaw (zaw@zaw.subneural.net) |
| 19:01.17 | Sedorox | yea.. all 7 dns servers went down :-p |
| 19:01.43 | denon | actually, more likely the zone got messed up |
| 19:01.51 | denon | by the at-a-glance looks of things |
| 19:02.07 | Zeeek | must be using the GUI to edit the zone |
| 19:02.10 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 19:02.23 | malcolmd | hi, yes, we're down. we're doing what we can, but right now we're waiting on our CLEC |
| 19:02.31 | Zeeek | in the meantime there's always http://www.digium.net/ |
| 19:02.59 | Sedorox | weird |
| 19:03.05 | Zeeek | and http://www.digiumresearch.com/ |
| 19:03.24 | Manipura | What * hardware do I need when I get a pri? |
| 19:04.18 | djin | Manipure, are you for real? |
| 19:05.43 | djin | You might want to check Digium for the Wildcard TE110P, TE405P and TE410P. |
| 19:07.01 | Manipura | Thanks |
| 19:07.04 | bjohnson | Manipura: you might also want to consider what hardware you need for your phones |
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| 19:07.15 | *** topic/#asterisk by denon -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || Dev Conf 1PM CST FEB 24th -> IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 || Digium's having some outtages - major Internet outtage in their area, please be patient. |
| 19:07.46 | malcolmd | denon: thanks :) |
| 19:07.47 | *** topic/#asterisk by denon -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || Dev Conf 1PM CST FEB 24th -> IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 || Digium's having some voice and data outtages - major Internet problems in their area, please be patient. |
| 19:07.55 | denon | voice and data, fyi |
| 19:07.56 | bjohnson | denon: why not list IP if it's just a dns issue? |
| 19:08.10 | Manipura | bjohnson, softphones and DID's |
| 19:08.12 | klasstek | Anyone dealt with voipsupply.com for purchasing phones? |
| 19:08.20 | bjohnson | Manipura: ewww |
| 19:08.20 | DJ-Pyro | klasstek: yes |
| 19:08.26 | malcolmd | digium.com + asterisk.org = dns issue. digium's voice circuits = waiting on clec to fix us up. |
| 19:08.29 | *** topic/#asterisk by denon -> Asterisk: The Open Source PBX || Dev Conf 1PM CST FEB 24th -> IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996 || Digium's having some voice and data outtages - major Internet problems in their area, please be patient. (you can use http://69.16.138.164 temporarily) |
| 19:08.31 | bjohnson | klasstek: damn near eneryone' |
| 19:08.54 | klasstek | good, bad or indifferent? |
| 19:08.56 | stevekstevek | kinda sucks that CVS is unavailable... :( |
| 19:09.08 | bjohnson | klasstek: good |
| 19:09.09 | DJ-Pyro | we have a 7700USD order pending |
| 19:09.11 | bkw_ | clec is on crack |
| 19:09.13 | DJ-Pyro | very good klasstek |
| 19:09.15 | jaiger | klasstek, I've purchased polycom phones, worked for me |
| 19:09.15 | malcolmd | stevekstevek: ja, sorry. :( |
| 19:09.19 | bjohnson | klasstek: gotta watch shipping charges though |
| 19:09.27 | klasstek | Thanks |
| 19:09.35 | malcolmd | bkw_: yup, especially since they've handed the problem off to the rboc now |
| 19:10.53 | klasstek | jaiger: Any exp with the Polycom IP 4000 conference station? |
| 19:11.08 | jaiger | klasstek, no, I use IP300, IP500 and IP600 |
| 19:11.14 | jaiger | mostly IP500 |
| 19:11.34 | klasstek | thx |
| 19:11.48 | klasstek | Anyone else tried the Polycom IP 4000? |
| 19:12.00 | Sedorox | damn |
| 19:12.04 | jaiger | klasstek, but I'm happy enough with polycom to stick with them |
| 19:12.31 | Zeeek | what power supplies do polycoms come with? |
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| 19:12.53 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted[work]] by ChanServ |
| 19:12.57 | twisted[work] | digium fall down go boom? |
| 19:13.00 | jaiger | voipsupply gives a choice, some have PoE and some use wall warts |
| 19:13.09 | DJ-Pyro | twisted[work]: topic |
| 19:13.11 | Sedorox | read topic |
| 19:13.17 | twisted[work] | DJ-Pyro, no shit sherlock. |
| 19:13.21 | Zeeek | I'm asking because I'd need a wallwart and one that works with 220v |
| 19:13.38 | jaiger | the PoE ones use wall warts to inject into the PoE cable |
| 19:13.41 | twisted[work] | I'm just trying to figure out what happened |
| 19:13.44 | twisted[work] | I already knew they were out |
| 19:13.45 | doughecka_ | bwuhahaha |
| 19:13.56 | doughecka_ | SBC is having "major troubles" |
| 19:14.00 | doughecka_ | no outgoing calls |
| 19:14.02 | malcolmd | twisted[work]: ahoy |
| 19:14.02 | twisted[work] | they're not SBC |
| 19:14.08 | twisted[work] | hey malcolmd, whassabi |
| 19:14.12 | doughecka_ | fast busy, but incoming calls come in |
| 19:14.40 | doughecka_ | no, this is me |
| 19:15.00 | doughecka_ | new albany/Jeffersonville, IN |
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| 19:17.12 | twisted[work] | ahh. |
| 19:17.19 | twisted[work] | these storms are rocking our boat |
| 19:17.20 | jaiger | Zeeek, my polycom wall warts are 120VAC to 12VDC |
| 19:17.32 | Zeeek | ok thx |
| 19:18.28 | Zeeek | anayone here dealt with atacomm ? |
| 19:18.50 | denon | yep |
| 19:18.58 | Zeeek | and? any good? |
| 19:19.03 | denon | yeah, nice folks |
| 19:19.07 | Zeeek | are you in MN? |
| 19:19.16 | denon | yep |
| 19:19.19 | denon | not close to them, though |
| 19:19.35 | Zeeek | I was born in Mpls - coming there to visit and noticed they are located in Maple Grove |
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| 19:19.43 | denon | ah, yep |
| 19:19.46 | Zeeek | so my wife will never see what hit her :) |
| 19:19.53 | denon | hehe |
| 19:19.56 | denon | nice area |
| 19:20.00 | Zeeek | "I think I'll take a quick ride over to Maple Grove" |
| 19:20.14 | mikegrb | Zeeek: |
| 19:20.16 | mikegrb | er |
| 19:20.19 | mikegrb | Zeeek: I so would |
| 19:20.21 | Zeeek | My step bro lives there. I'll park her there and disappear with the checkbook |
| 19:20.35 | denon | dont think he has a retail location.. |
| 19:20.39 | mikegrb | Zeeek: wife may tell me I have to walk home but at least I'd have goodies |
| 19:21.03 | Beirdo | twisted[work]: where are these storms? |
| 19:21.06 | Zeeek | Well the address is published, I'd guess pickup may be possible - Minnesota nice and all |
| 19:21.16 | denon | yep, see your msgs |
| 19:21.56 | Zeeek | denon was that to me? |
| 19:22.00 | denon | yeah |
| 19:22.03 | Logan | All the prompts that asterisk plays are way too loud, compared to the level we hear when actually talking to someone on a bridged phone. |
| 19:22.09 | Zeeek | I have all queries turned off |
| 19:22.14 | twisted[work] | Beirdo, midsouth |
| 19:22.17 | Logan | Despite trying to force the wave files we're using to have a lower volume, they remain way too loud. |
| 19:22.33 | denon | ah .. well, I just mentioned to give Dan a call, and tell him that denon told him to let you in :) |
| 19:22.40 | Beirdo | ahh. so my friend in Tennessee is likely having fun then |
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| 19:22.41 | Zeeek | haha |
| 19:22.52 | Zeeek | where are you denon? Not TC? |
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| 19:22.59 | denon | bit south |
| 19:23.07 | Zeeek | StCloud? |
| 19:23.10 | denon | I get up to tc fairly often though |
| 19:23.11 | Zeeek | no that's north... |
| 19:23.17 | denon | I get to st cloud often too |
| 19:23.17 | denon | hehe |
| 19:23.24 | Zeeek | lemmies see |
| 19:23.27 | Zeeek | ummmm |
| 19:23.42 | denon | dont worry .. |
| 19:23.45 | Zeeek | let me guess |
| 19:24.02 | Zeeek | farmington? |
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| 19:24.31 | denon | nah |
| 19:24.38 | Zeeek | closer? |
| 19:24.44 | Beirdo | of course if this were the world of 24 or something, they could track you to a precise location in your building just from your IP address :) |
| 19:25.01 | abernathy | Can anybody help me figure out why audio on incoming calls doesn't seem to work? (When I do an echo test, or call vm, nothing ever gets sent to the other end) |
| 19:25.01 | denon | Beirdo: yeah .. except my proxy server is in texas |
| 19:25.14 | Beirdo | hehe, that's nothing for the CTU, of course :) |
| 19:25.17 | denon | oh, no, its in pennsylvania now |
| 19:25.31 | Zeeek | abernathy SIP? NAT? |
| 19:25.39 | abernathy | yes and yes |
| 19:25.43 | Beirdo | oh oh, moving your proxy might be considered terrorist activity |
| 19:26.02 | Zeeek | nat=yes canreinvite=no ? |
| 19:26.13 | Zeeek | what phone? |
| 19:26.41 | abernathy | xten xlite, and cisco 7960, and yes on both of those |
| 19:26.52 | Zeeek | did you set Transmit SIlence to YES? |
| 19:26.59 | Zeeek | on X-Lite? |
| 19:27.12 | abernathy | no, it works with other voip (fwd) |
| 19:27.30 | Zeeek | *and set the RTP ports to the * range? |
| 19:27.50 | Zeeek | fwd will be using STUN though, no? |
| 19:29.01 | Zeeek | abernathy better to stay public - with luck someone who knows what they're talking about will take over :) |
| 19:29.15 | Zeeek | I'm getting near the rim of my knowledge galaxy |
| 19:29.26 | abernathy | oops :-) |
| 19:29.43 | Zeeek | But I have used X-Lite with * behind NAT on both ends and Xmit silence had to be YES |
| 19:29.44 | abernathy | not sure about the RTP thing |
| 19:29.54 | Zeeek | set the X-Lite to use 10000 |
| 19:30.07 | Zeeek | (or change asterisk if you want) |
| 19:30.09 | abernathy | ok, one sec |
| 19:30.28 | Zeeek | denon, mankato, altbert lea... ? |
| 19:30.40 | Zeeek | wasn't there an asterisk meeting in the TC recently? |
| 19:31.42 | denon | probably... Ive been too busy to even think about going |
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| 19:32.02 | Zeeek | I make Mark himself come over here and buy us wine in Paris |
| 19:32.12 | Zeeek | much more productive meetings |
| 19:32.44 | denon | you're in paris? |
| 19:32.51 | Beirdo | Mmmm. wine |
| 19:32.53 | Zeeek | yes sir |
| 19:33.01 | Zeeek | there is no lack of wine here |
| 19:33.02 | denon | course I bet he'd be more reluctant to do so, if he didnt have family there |
| 19:33.12 | Zeeek | indubitably |
| 19:33.21 | Zeeek | but there is a good group here |
| 19:33.24 | denon | I havent been to paris in a long time |
| 19:33.31 | Zeeek | fierce open-source guys |
| 19:33.36 | Beirdo | I've never been |
| 19:33.37 | Zeeek | militant even |
| 19:33.56 | Beirdo | guh. that kind of person tends to annoy me after a few hours |
| 19:33.59 | denon | you know.. the one admin I do know in Paris, is a real stuck-up bast..er, bastille-lover |
| 19:34.06 | harryvv | Anyone know of a price compedative closed case wall mount atx case without paying commercial rates? |
| 19:34.21 | harryvv | I have seen some with lockable front covers. |
| 19:34.52 | Zeeek | heh, well we mustn't generalize - there's good and bad everything - even cops |
| 19:34.54 | abernathy | Ok, I think I have some other issues with this... might not be my server. might be the network I'm currently on |
| 19:35.03 | denon | Zeeek: agreed |
| 19:35.08 | denon | well, dunno bout cops . |
| 19:35.08 | *** join/#asterisk phantam (~phantam@63.210.60.199) |
| 19:35.12 | denon | but that we shouldn't generalize |
| 19:35.12 | phantam | hey guys |
| 19:35.21 | Zeeek | good luck abernathy - I need to pretend I haven't been online for the last three hours |
| 19:35.21 | phantam | asterisk been working great |
| 19:35.24 | denon | thats nice |
| 19:35.25 | denon | NEXT |
| 19:35.31 | Zeeek | heh |
| 19:35.37 | phantam | i have a hidden extension playing --- southpark-kyles mom is a big fat ***** |
| 19:35.37 | phantam | :) |
| 19:35.55 | Zeeek | 'night all - thanks for the info denon - I'll be there in May and I'll "take a ride" |
| 19:36.05 | phantam | however |
| 19:36.07 | phantam | i keep getting |
| 19:36.09 | denon | Zeeek: sounds like fun, drop me a msg before ya leave |
| 19:36.10 | phantam | wrapendpoint.cxx:716: error: 'class H323AudioCodec' has no member named 'IsDescendant' |
| 19:36.16 | denon | and I'll see what my sched is |
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| 19:36.20 | *** part/#asterisk Zeeek (~Zeeek@Zeeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc) |
| 19:36.21 | phantam | when trying to compile oh323 for some reason |
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| 19:36.44 | denon | back so soon? |
| 19:36.46 | Zeeek | Oops slipped - denon I read that last - ok :) later |
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| 19:37.52 | phantam | denon any idea what that could be? |
| 19:38.24 | denon | nope, I never use h.323 |
| 19:38.30 | denon | make sure you're running current everything |
| 19:38.36 | denon | and try make-cleaning everything |
| 19:38.37 | denon | etc |
| 19:38.38 | denon | the usual |
| 19:38.43 | phantam | hmmm |
| 19:38.51 | phantam | damn portage why cant it have the up to date stuff |
| 19:39.14 | Hmmhesays | phantam: did you follow the instructions for which versions to use? |
| 19:39.34 | phantam | which instructions are you refering to |
| 19:39.41 | phantam | i kinda had to fool asterisk into installing |
| 19:39.48 | phantam | because i installed from portage |
| 19:39.54 | phantam | and then was getting adsi errors for some reason |
| 19:40.05 | Hmmhesays | the ones in the oh323 readme |
| 19:40.12 | phantam | so i coppied all the modules and conf files from a working distro of asterisk |
| 19:40.18 | phantam | but... it didnt have h323 or iax |
| 19:40.23 | Hmmhesays | oh323 is extremely easy to install |
| 19:40.28 | Hmmhesays | if you follow the instructions |
| 19:40.29 | phantam | and when i install oh323 from portage |
| 19:40.32 | phantam | emerge asterisk-oh323 |
| 19:40.35 | phantam | i get |
| 19:40.38 | phantam | wrapendpoint.cxx: In member function `virtual BOOL WrapH323EndPoint::OpenAudioChannel(H323Connection&, BOOL, unsigned int, H323AudioCodec&)': |
| 19:40.42 | phantam | wrapendpoint.cxx:716: error: 'class H323AudioCodec' has no member named 'IsDescendant' |
| 19:40.44 | phantam | wrapendpoint.cxx:717: error: 'class H323AudioCodec' has no member named 'IsDescendant' |
| 19:41.06 | mikegrb | that would be because portage sucks |
| 19:41.13 | phantam | asterisk first program i run into that has such bad implementation in portage |
| 19:41.18 | phantam | lol never failed me before |
| 19:41.34 | Hmmhesays | yeah well 50 dollar hookers never failed me either.. till last time |
| 19:41.35 | mikegrb | it fails all the time |
| 19:41.40 | mikegrb | and is slooooooooow |
| 19:41.50 | phantam | how is it slow? |
| 19:41.58 | mikegrb | for an "optomized" distribution, why is portage so slow |
| 19:42.07 | mikegrb | ever do an emerge rsync? |
| 19:42.16 | phantam | u mean emerge sync |
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| 19:42.29 | phantam | takes about 1.5 mins on my server |
| 19:42.43 | mikegrb | I'm not talking about the transer |
| 19:42.47 | phantam | still doesnt tell me how to get iax and h323 to install |
| 19:43.04 | phantam | i know what u mean im talking the whole thing from command prompt to command prompt |
| 19:43.07 | mikegrb | I'm talking about the cpu time it takes to "recalculate dependencies" and what not |
| 19:43.07 | phantam | 1.5 mins |
| 19:43.16 | mikegrb | I doubt it |
| 19:43.22 | mikegrb | at any rate, it is crap |
| 19:43.28 | phantam | lol |
| 19:43.31 | mikegrb | it's a 50,000 line python script |
| 19:43.35 | phantam | so how should i install h323 |
| 19:43.43 | mikegrb | python because they can't learn to write real code |
| 19:43.56 | mikegrb | you shouldn't use h323, it's almost as crap as gentoo |
| 19:44.27 | |Vulture| | is $430 good for a 12line PRI? |
| 19:44.52 | mikegrb | |Vulture|: really depends on the location |
| 19:45.05 | mikegrb | |Vulture|: for some places that is quite good, other places possibly cheaper but not bad |
| 19:45.13 | phantam | mikegrb: weather it is crap or not is not my business it is what the person thats owns the server needs so im doing it |
| 19:45.21 | mikegrb | weather? |
| 19:45.27 | mikegrb | it's sunny out and I have the AC on |
| 19:45.31 | mikegrb | how's the weather there? |
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| 19:45.40 | |Vulture| | mikegrb: thanx |
| 19:45.43 | doughecka_ | mikegrb: crap |
| 19:45.45 | mikegrb | |Vulture|: $35/line is pretty good |
| 19:45.54 | mikegrb | doughecka_: :< |
| 19:46.11 | mikegrb | |Vulture|: what's the location and provider, out of curiousity |
| 19:46.22 | |Vulture| | mikegrb: and a full pri was quoted at $650 but we don't need all 23 lines |
| 19:46.32 | |Vulture| | Jacksonville, FL; Nuvox |
| 19:47.01 | mikegrb | ahh, I'm in pensacola |
| 19:47.07 | |Vulture| | we have had a Fract T1 Data/Voice for the past 3 years |
| 19:47.32 | mikegrb | 35/line is definitly cheaper then analog lines |
| 19:47.54 | |Vulture| | but with * going in there I want to put a PRI, and they are suppose to quote me on 786K + Frac PRI |
| 19:48.19 | |Vulture| | yea plus it includes 1000mins of LD |
| 19:48.31 | mikegrb | ahh |
| 19:48.40 | mikegrb | well sounds like a pretty good deal |
| 19:48.44 | |Vulture| | yea |
| 19:48.50 | mikegrb | I like jacksonville |
| 19:49.00 | mikegrb | espeacially the people mover downtown |
| 19:49.07 | mikegrb | went there just to ride it |
| 19:49.08 | |Vulture| | I actually go to school down in Orlando |
| 19:49.12 | |Vulture| | hahaha |
| 19:49.34 | |Vulture| | the city looks really nice right now because of the superbowl |
| 19:49.42 | mikegrb | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/pictures/jax/jax.html |
| 19:49.44 | |Vulture| | they had all the lights on |
| 19:50.16 | mikegrb | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/pictures/jax/jax-Pages/Image10.html <-- I like this one |
| 19:50.18 | |Vulture| | mikegrb!! D70 |
| 19:50.26 | mikegrb | have a 20x30 print of i on the wall |
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| 19:50.31 | |Vulture| | http://www.the-vulture.com/gallery |
| 19:50.31 | mikegrb | s/i/it/ |
| 19:50.51 | |Vulture| | that is a nice shot |
| 19:51.01 | |Vulture| | you using the kit lens? |
| 19:51.11 | phantam | whats a good webinterface for asterisk |
| 19:51.12 | phantam | ? |
| 19:51.22 | phantam | voxbox looks aight but shitload of requirements |
| 19:51.29 | mikegrb | Mythbusters Q&A! |
| 19:51.40 | |Vulture| | :) |
| 19:51.42 | mikegrb | yeah, have the kit lens and a 70-300mm nikor |
| 19:52.06 | |Vulture| | ah, I have the 70-200VR, kit, 85 and 50 |
| 19:52.18 | |Vulture| | the 85 is one of my fav lenses |
| 19:52.40 | bjohnson | just for line cost comparisions, we're paying $33 CAD / line for analog lines |
| 19:53.21 | |Vulture| | I didn't take those Mythbuster shots, they were done by my friend... hence the crappy pics :( |
| 19:54.57 | mikegrb | http://www.the-vulture.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=12&pos=0 <-- details? use filters on that one? |
| 19:55.26 | mikegrb | 1/60 sec exposure so I assume a flash, built in or a speed light? |
| 19:55.34 | mikegrb | I've been damn happy with the SB-800 |
| 19:55.58 | mikegrb | I cracked the lcd when I was in jax though so it is a pain in the ass to switch back in forth between remote slave and TTL |
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| 19:57.34 | |Vulture| | mikegrb: kit lens, circular polar filter |
| 19:57.44 | |Vulture| | oh yea the SB-800 is a god |
| 19:58.05 | ACiDV | Hmm I have made a CVS (zaptel, libpri, asterisk, ...) update, make clean/install this morning... I load my TE405 drivers, no problem, I check status with zttool and all channel are now OK... no link connected. I must see a red alarm true ? |
| 19:58.25 | mikegrb | ahh, polarizer's are great, at sunset I assume? |
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| 19:58.54 | heison | |Vulture|: what camera do u have? D70? |
| 19:59.20 | |Vulture| | mikegrb: yes and great at eliminating overexposure due to reflections |
| 19:59.30 | mikegrb | indeed |
| 19:59.35 | |Vulture| | heison: yes mikegrb has one as well we were just discussing |
| 19:59.47 | heison | i have it too ;) |
| 19:59.56 | |Vulture| | haha such a great camera |
| 19:59.57 | heison | 18-70, 28-70, 70-200VR |
| 20:00.12 | |Vulture| | heison: you have a film camera too? |
| 20:00.13 | heison | i want to ditch my 18-70 and get 17-35 |
| 20:00.24 | heison | no.. i have d70 |
| 20:00.44 | mikegrb | I want some VR lenses |
| 20:00.46 | |Vulture| | ah why the 28-70 and a 18-70? |
| 20:00.50 | mikegrb | but had a kid so... bleh |
| 20:01.00 | heison | with a new shutter ;) Nikon Canada replaced mine -- it's worned out |
| 20:01.00 | |Vulture| | I have the 70-200 as well... its a work of art |
| 20:01.21 | |Vulture| | heison: how many shots did you put through your d70? |
| 20:01.25 | mikegrb | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/pictures/hunter/hunter.html |
| 20:01.45 | Beirdo | and of what calibre bullet? |
| 20:01.58 | |Vulture| | mikegrb: did you use the sb-800 for those? |
| 20:02.08 | mikegrb | |Vulture|: ja |
| 20:02.27 | heison | 24k shot when it was replaced |
| 20:02.32 | mikegrb | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/pictures/fireworks/fireworks-Pages/Image8.html <-- I like the fireworks pictures too but they weren't with the D70 |
| 20:02.32 | |Vulture| | that omni bounce is great for making pictures look real to life |
| 20:02.49 | mikegrb | indeed |
| 20:03.29 | heison | i now have close to 26000 shots on it total |
| 20:03.35 | |Vulture| | hahah nice croc shot |
| 20:03.44 | |Vulture| | heison: how much was the replacement? |
| 20:03.47 | mikegrb | http://thegrebs.com/~michael/pictures/remote/remote.html <-- I'm proud of these nice night shots too |
| 20:03.54 | mikegrb | the croc shots were for the paper |
| 20:03.57 | heison | it was 'free', 2 yrs warranty |
| 20:04.14 | heison | i intend to bring it back before the 2 years for another replacement |
| 20:04.25 | |Vulture| | mikegrb: I like that #1 night shot |
| 20:04.34 | |Vulture| | no blooming... good work |
| 20:04.44 | mikegrb | |Vulture|: those were with the canon powershot |
| 20:04.58 | mikegrb | all my night shots I take my 12" ibook with me and use it to trigger :D |
| 20:05.09 | |Vulture| | I have a S410 as my backup/party cam |
| 20:05.11 | BrianR___ | Funny.. This channel suddenly became #photography.. I thought my irc client was broken or something.. |
| 20:05.20 | |Vulture| | lol |
| 20:05.40 | BrianR___ | I use a d70 also. Love that camera. |
| 20:05.46 | mikegrb | :O |
| 20:05.50 | Beirdo | hey mikegrb: why is there a customs agent with the croc? was it smuggling drugs? |
| 20:05.50 | |Vulture| | wow thats #4 |
| 20:05.55 | mikegrb | this is the #d70 channel! |
| 20:06.05 | |Vulture| | Asterisk users love D70s! |
| 20:06.22 | heison | chan_d70 |
| 20:06.40 | heison | time to write one ;) |
| 20:06.54 | |Vulture| | lol |
| 20:07.17 | |Vulture| | all my hurricane pics were on my S410 |
| 20:07.52 | mikegrb | my son was born just after the huricane with flashlights! |
| 20:08.14 | heison | some of my D70 pics... http://photos.zealnetworks.com/Clara_and_Heison/Gallery/ |
| 20:08.21 | |Vulture| | wow... |
| 20:09.06 | mikegrb | I need to upload my mardi gras pictures |
| 20:09.07 | *** join/#asterisk mbranca_home (~matteo@host-84-222-6-8.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 20:09.08 | |Vulture| | heison: http://photos.zealnetworks.com/Clara_and_Heison/Gallery/index.php?image=20040603-113541.jpg&d=d.html where is that? |
| 20:09.11 | Beirdo | I still take more film pics |
| 20:09.41 | heison | |Vulture|: Santorini, Greece |
| 20:09.42 | Beirdo | http://pics.beirdo.ca/gallery/ |
| 20:09.56 | |Vulture| | I have a N80 and use Velvia 50 on it... great for when you really want a pic |
| 20:10.02 | Beirdo | one of these days I want a good Nikon digital to use my F65's lenses on :) |
| 20:10.28 | |Vulture| | Beirdo: F65? |
| 20:10.52 | Beirdo | yes, I believe that's the model |
| 20:11.08 | mikegrb | Beirdo: you cane buy me a nikon D2H and have my d70 |
| 20:11.20 | Beirdo | heh |
| 20:11.25 | heison | i want D2X |
| 20:11.28 | |Vulture| | Beirdo: is it a large metal camera about 7 years old? |
| 20:11.33 | Beirdo | no |
| 20:11.41 | Beirdo | it's a film SLR |
| 20:11.44 | Beirdo | about 4 years old |
| 20:11.53 | |Vulture| | oh I guess there is a F65... |
| 20:12.01 | |Vulture| | I was thinking of the F5 and F6 |
| 20:12.06 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:12.28 | Beirdo | http://pics.beirdo.ca/gallery/photo.php?photo=1624&exhibition=29 |
| 20:12.33 | Beirdo | mmmm, I wanna go back |
| 20:12.56 | |Vulture| | Beirdo: what film do you shoot? |
| 20:13.11 | Beirdo | Fuji 35mm, usually 200ASA |
| 20:13.37 | Beirdo | for some of the pics at the Toronto Molson Indy one year, I used Fuji 1600ASA :) |
| 20:13.41 | |Vulture| | yea I like Fuji too |
| 20:13.54 | Beirdo | pricey stuff, but MAN did it do a good job |
| 20:15.01 | mikegrb | Beirdo: nice pics |
| 20:15.08 | Beirdo | Thanks. :) |
| 20:15.09 | |Vulture| | dell is taking their sweet time to build my new server... :( |
| 20:15.14 | mikegrb | Beirdo: film is harder, don'g get instant feedback to tweak ;) |
| 20:15.17 | Beirdo | it's hard to screw up Colorado though |
| 20:15.28 | Beirdo | yeah, you have to get used to framing the shots |
| 20:15.29 | |Vulture| | you guys ever shoot medium format? |
| 20:16.20 | *** join/#asterisk randu (~randu@pool-141-151-118-76.scr.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:16.30 | randu | Hello Oeveryone |
| 20:16.34 | randu | Everyone |
| 20:16.34 | *** join/#asterisk angler_ (~angler@207.111.168.75) |
| 20:16.43 | angler_ | grr |
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| 20:16.45 | |Vulture| | hey |
| 20:16.53 | randu | I am getting this when using parked calls, trying to: == Spawn extension (vi, 710, 3) exited non-zero on 'Parked/SIP/147.135.0.129-0855f070<ZOMBIE>' |
| 20:17.10 | randu | any ideas |
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| 20:21.12 | harryvv | what does a u1 chasis case run these days? |
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| 20:24.34 | PyroSteve | man, i iax.conf is confusing for me |
| 20:24.40 | *** part/#asterisk sysdef (~sysdef@pD9561E44.dip.t-dialin.net) |
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| 20:26.22 | PyroSteve | if I am registering with a server via iax |
| 20:26.40 | PyroSteve | do i need to define a section for the host as well ? |
| 20:28.11 | Sedorox | no.. just the remote server |
| 20:30.24 | *** join/#asterisk drmac (~drmac@64.72.107.1) |
| 20:30.46 | *** join/#asterisk phantam (~phantam@63.210.60.199) |
| 20:30.55 | drmac | where can i get a polo shirt with the Asterisk logo on it? |
| 20:31.44 | phantam | shido u there? |
| 20:34.02 | dsmouse | ERROR[13760]: cli.c:50 ast_cli: Out of memory |
| 20:34.21 | phantam | where did shido go |
| 20:34.49 | dsmouse | 'help show config handles' was the command, btw |
| 20:34.53 | bjohnson | Beirdo: engineer? |
| 20:35.05 | Beirdo | yup |
| 20:35.10 | Beirdo | Electrical... why? |
| 20:35.15 | bjohnson | OttawaU civil |
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| 20:35.29 | Beirdo | UWaterloo Electrical. |
| 20:35.34 | Beirdo | :) |
| 20:35.45 | heison | Beirdo: UW CS, Ryerson Electrical |
| 20:35.53 | bjohnson | I have 1 borther UWaterloo Electrical and 2 Uwaterloo computer |
| 20:36.13 | bjohnson | 4 boys. All geeks |
| 20:36.25 | Beirdo | hehe, geek is fun |
| 20:36.36 | Beirdo | bjohnson any of them '97? |
| 20:36.57 | heison | 97 ID or 93 ID? |
| 20:37.12 | dsmouse | in school there were ads for fraternities that said "go greek", one of my friends removed the r |
| 20:37.14 | bjohnson | I think Brendon in computer was 97 |
| 20:37.15 | Beirdo | '97 grad year |
| 20:37.23 | Logan | Can anyone tell me how to make Playback and Background playback wave files more quietly? |
| 20:37.25 | Beirdo | Brendon's your brother. |
| 20:37.27 | Beirdo | Oh jeez |
| 20:37.30 | bjohnson | yes |
| 20:37.33 | Beirdo | heh |
| 20:37.51 | Beirdo | craziness |
| 20:38.05 | bjohnson | with a little charm |
| 20:38.48 | shmaltz | Logan, you got the # changed for transfers? |
| 20:38.57 | Beirdo | I definitely remember him... can't place a face at the exact second, but that was almost 8 years ago now |
| 20:39.16 | bjohnson | speaking of telecom .. he works for Qualcomm in SD |
| 20:39.17 | phantam | hmmm |
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| 20:39.19 | phantam | he left? |
| 20:39.30 | Beirdo | still? didn't he go there right after grad? |
| 20:39.38 | Beirdo | along with several of his classmates |
| 20:40.42 | Beirdo | what a small world it is. |
| 20:41.20 | bjohnson | yeah |
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| 20:43.28 | SexyKen | Hey guys. |
| 20:43.38 | Beirdo | if you met many of his friends, you likely know quite a few people I know :) |
| 20:44.02 | SexyKen | I have a problem I need to fix right away. When people call into my Asterisk box and get entered into a queue, they go to voicemail if the agent is taking a call instead of holding them in the queue. |
| 20:44.09 | SexyKen | I just dont know why this is happening. |
| 20:44.10 | Poincare | how can i check how many licenses are in use for g729 or what codec a channel is using? |
| 20:44.29 | Logan | shmaltz: I changed it so '##' just sends a '#' tone. |
| 20:45.35 | bjohnson | I think show channels will show the codec |
| 20:46.46 | *** part/#asterisk djin (~djin@gridfox.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:46.48 | SexyKen | Anyone know why this would happen? |
| 20:47.27 | shmaltz | I'm having problems with call parking? when doing an attended transfer. |
| 20:48.58 | malcolmd | okay, I think we're back... |
| 20:50.51 | JerJer | yay |
| 20:51.03 | mutilator | http://ned.ucam.org/~sdh31/misc/destroy.html |
| 20:51.05 | mutilator | :P |
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| 20:52.31 | JerJer | Poincare: g.729 show licenses i think |
| 20:52.38 | JerJer | just type g.729 and press tab |
| 20:53.03 | jets | g729unlock |
| 20:53.08 | Poincare | tab does nothing :-( |
| 20:53.18 | drmac | "show g729" |
| 20:53.18 | SexyKen | I have a problem I need to fix right away. When people call into my Asterisk box and get entered into a queue, they go to voicemail if the agent is taking a call instead of holding them in the queue. |
| 20:53.21 | SexyKen | Anyone know why this would happen? |
| 20:53.27 | Poincare | ah ok :-) |
| 20:53.36 | Poincare | show g729, thanks JerJer |
| 20:53.44 | drmac | ?? |
| 20:53.52 | Poincare | drmac: you too :-) |
| 20:53.56 | drmac | :) |
| 20:54.28 | JerJer | i new g.729 was in there somewhere |
| 20:54.32 | JerJer | +k |
| 20:56.07 | HiB | exit |
| 20:56.13 | HiB | exit |
| 20:56.21 | HiB | exit |
| 20:58.13 | yashax | Guys, what is the menu command to reboot Polycom IP500? |
| 20:59.49 | snewpy | yashax: vol+, vol-, hold and messages, iirc |
| 20:59.57 | Poincare | JerJer: is it normal that SIP/RTP doesn't work when I have 2 IP's on a interface? |
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| 21:01.11 | thieumS | has anyone experience with Digium TE405P ? |
| 21:01.28 | thieumS | and 2.6 |
| 21:04.04 | yashax | snewpy: Awesome, thank you!!! |
| 21:04.23 | *** join/#asterisk DonX (don@tool.sparkhosting.net) |
| 21:04.33 | DonX | How can I find out what timer asterisk is using? |
| 21:04.45 | Sedorox | in the console |
| 21:04.46 | Sedorox | show versioj |
| 21:04.48 | Sedorox | version |
| 21:05.27 | DonX | Asterisk CVS-HEAD-02/21/05-14:51:31 built by root@pbx-svr1 on a i686 running Linux |
| 21:05.29 | DonX | ? |
| 21:06.04 | *** join/#asterisk Uajal (~icechat5@ool-182e86f3.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:08.10 | Sedorox | your running CVS version of asterisk |
| 21:08.17 | Sedorox | built today |
| 21:08.27 | DonX | yes, I just CVSup'ed |
| 21:08.41 | DonX | I'm trying to chase down an issue and I'm trying everything |
| 21:08.43 | Uajal | I can call to SIP phone (SIP/2001, 20, Tr). How should I call to external phone, to the cell e.g. 646-3948? SIP/????????????? |
| 21:09.05 | jets | Uhm zap/1/646-3945 |
| 21:09.15 | bjohnson | if you have a zap device |
| 21:09.18 | jets | correct |
| 21:09.18 | Uajal | I have no ZAp card |
| 21:09.26 | jets | Then you need an iax/sip provider |
| 21:09.28 | bjohnson | Uajal: what device are you expecting to use? |
| 21:09.33 | DonX | how do you get your PSTN access? |
| 21:09.36 | bjohnson | jets: or a sip fxo |
| 21:09.37 | *** part/#asterisk didz_ (didz_@200.218.192.52) |
| 21:09.42 | jets | yup |
| 21:09.54 | Uajal | I have SIP provider. Asterisk is connected to it It is broadvoice |
| 21:10.02 | bjohnson | I guess could be a iax fxo but I haven't seen those yet |
| 21:10.18 | bjohnson | Uajal: so follow their instruction |
| 21:10.48 | bjohnson | should be something like dial(sip/6463948@broadvoice) |
| 21:11.11 | bjohnson | might need your username and password there depending on how you set up your sip.con |
| 21:11.14 | bjohnson | might need your username and password there depending on how you set up your sip.conf |
| 21:11.17 | Uajal | Asterisk works with them. I can press "4" and my SIP phone connected to LAN calls. I want that my cell will call instead now. |
| 21:11.59 | Uajal | I mean Asterisk works with them. I can press "4" and my SIP phone connected to LAN rings. I want that my cell will ring instead |
| 21:12.04 | bjohnson | I don't understand |
| 21:12.41 | Uajal | Asterisk is connected to broadvoice OK |
| 21:13.23 | Uajal | Now I want to make such picture that by pressing "4" in main menu my cellular phone will call |
| 21:13.54 | harryvv | netsurfer been around at all? |
| 21:14.16 | Sedorox | Uajal: all you want to do is set it where when you press four.. it dials out broadvoice with your cell number |
| 21:15.23 | Uajal | Yes that Agent will be not on SIP phone in office but on cell phone |
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| 21:16.33 | Sedorox | ... |
| 21:16.56 | Uajal | I cannot understand format of dial(SIP/6463948, 20, Tr) or it is wrong? |
| 21:17.55 | Sedorox | you want to make it the format of |
| 21:18.10 | Sedorox | dial(SIP/Broadvoicesetup/yournumber,25,tT) |
| 21:18.48 | Uajal | I had exten 4 => dial(SIP/6463948, 20, Tr) . It worked. Now I want 4 => dial(SIP/ MY_CELL_PHONE_NUMBER, ...) It doesn't work |
| 21:18.54 | file | even that's a little wrong, it's proper to do SIP/number@broadvoicesetup |
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| 21:19.00 | Uajal | excuse me |
| 21:19.26 | *** join/#asterisk sneak (~sneak@64.220.234.21.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 21:19.44 | Uajal | I had exten 4 => dial(SIP/2001, 20, Tr) . It worked (2001 is ectention of SIP phone). Now I want 4 => dial(SIP/ MY_CELL_PHONE_NUMBER, ...) It doesn't work |
| 21:19.55 | Sedorox | yes |
| 21:19.56 | Sedorox | we get that |
| 21:19.58 | Sedorox | but |
| 21:20.00 | Sedorox | in sip.conf |
| 21:20.06 | Sedorox | what do you have broadvoice as? |
| 21:20.08 | Sedorox | in the []? |
| 21:20.42 | *** part/#asterisk yogurt2ungue (~charlie@203-132-126-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 21:21.00 | Uajal | [sip.broadvoice.com] |
| 21:21.05 | jets | Uajal you'll have to specify your sip peer |
| 21:21.17 | jets | SIP/4347146@sip.broadvoice.com |
| 21:21.24 | jets | actually it would be a full 10 digits with broadvoice i think |
| 21:22.01 | Uajal | I tried only 9. I'll try 10 now |
| 21:25.45 | tzanger | NorstarMICS [PRI1] TE405 [IAX2] TE405 [PRI2] Telco |
| 21:25.49 | tzanger | if I ztmonitor the PRI ot the telco, I do not hear the echo |
| 21:25.51 | tzanger | if I ztmonitor the PRI to the MICS, I hear the person on the MICS echoing |
| 21:25.55 | tzanger | would that not indicate that the echo is on the Norstar MICS PRI? |
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| 21:33.36 | Sedorox | I hate echo |
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| 21:36.09 | bjohnson | I hate echo too |
| 21:36.12 | bjohnson | I hate echo too |
| 21:36.17 | bjohnson | I hate echo too |
| 21:36.53 | Uajal | Called 6465153948@sip.broadvoice.com Got SIP response 404 "Not Found" back from 147.135.0.128 |
| 21:37.42 | Sedorox | for some reason.. I get echo even on SIP-IAX2-IAX2-SIP |
| 21:38.24 | Uajal | For SIP phone I have special record in sip.conf beginning with [2001] type=friend ... Should I have smth similar for cell phone? |
| 21:40.15 | bjohnson | http://www.broadvoice.com/support_install_asterisk.html |
| 21:40.23 | bjohnson | look what google turned up ^^ |
| 21:41.53 | bjohnson | Sedorox: I'm told echo is usually gain related |
| 21:42.02 | Sedorox | these are BT100's |
| 21:42.18 | Sedorox | connected via SIP on two *'s.. and they are linked via IAX2 |
| 21:43.31 | Uajal | To <bjohnson> I made these settings of broadvoice besides 6 because it is not outbound call. I want to connect inbound call with cell by pressing "4" |
| 21:44.12 | Sedorox | Uajal: we explained to you how to do it |
| 21:44.22 | bjohnson | answer, dial? |
| 21:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk tih (tih@athene.hamartun.priv.no) |
| 21:44.42 | bjohnson | Uajal: look at the authbycid macro on the wiki |
| 21:45.13 | *** join/#asterisk jufineath (jufineath@stan.othius.com) |
| 21:45.16 | *** join/#asterisk nextime (~nextime@ns0.nexlab.net) |
| 21:45.26 | bjohnson | err .. I mean look at the user authentication page (link from the tips and tricks page) |
| 21:45.37 | ariel_ | afternoon everyone |
| 21:46.20 | Uajal | where is authbycid? Search on Wiki doesn't show it |
| 21:47.46 | Uajal | Cannot find user authentication page on Wiki |
| 21:48.30 | dsmouse | ~google authbycid |
| 21:48.49 | bjohnson | that is a really neat tool !! |
| 21:48.56 | bjohnson | what do they call it? google? |
| 21:50.26 | *** join/#asterisk Moc____ (~mochouina@64.235.210.66) |
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| 21:51.16 | Moc____ | Does anyone have Document that show the benifit of Asterisk over Cisco/Avaya/Nortel/3Com ??? |
| 21:51.56 | eKo1 | Moc____: Eh, it's free. |
| 21:51.59 | JerJer | Document: Open-Source |
| 21:52.14 | JerJer | free is a very abused word |
| 21:52.31 | eKo1 | Fine, it's GPLed software. |
| 21:52.40 | JerJer | asterisk is absolutely NOT without cost |
| 21:52.51 | ariel_ | Moc____, frist one on the list is 1) Free 2) does Voip to PSTN transcoding. 3) Free |
| 21:52.53 | jaiger | there is no free lunch |
| 21:53.07 | JerJer | but you have freedoms that proprietary solutions simply cannot provide |
| 21:53.34 | ariel_ | Well at least you don't have to pay for the software. But all the rest you do. |
| 21:53.41 | dsmouse | Moc____: you get the source code with it, and you can use a off-the-shelf pc (plus card, if you need it), which means you can replace it with off-the-shelf parts |
| 21:54.01 | wizhippo | Asterisk simply rocks |
| 21:54.14 | Uajal | Didn't find relation of this authentification to my problem. I suppose that there is some simple mistake with the dialing external numbers with SIP. May be there should be some specific settings in sip.conf or other conf that solves the problem and make command dial(SIP/NUMBER@sip.broadvoice.com working. Should in conf files be smth specific for this dial? |
| 21:54.16 | dsmouse | wizhippo: it complexly rocks too |
| 21:54.17 | jufineath | it starts with an a, so it's first in the phone book, which means it must be better. |
| 21:54.19 | *** join/#asterisk qiu (~andrei@home-073519.b.astral.ro) |
| 21:54.23 | Moc____ | JerJer: Im talking abotu a document to sell Asterisk to the biggest Lawfirm in canada that Asterisk can do better more than the other systems... |
| 21:54.47 | JerJer | don't give them a document then |
| 21:54.59 | JerJer | hand them a working system and let them utilize it for a week |
| 21:55.00 | bjohnson | hehe .. proof |
| 21:55.05 | tzanger | that's what I always do |
| 21:55.09 | tzanger | but people want sheets to read |
| 21:55.13 | tzanger | I have the same problem |
| 21:55.16 | bjohnson | to me, the biggest advantage is flexibility |
| 21:55.18 | Moc____ | JerJer: I wish I could do that... |
| 21:55.21 | tzanger | Moc____: what's your email, we'll write something up |
| 21:55.47 | dsmouse | cat ~/irc.log | mail Moc___ |
| 21:55.52 | ariel_ | tzanger, just put it on the wiki for all of us to use. |
| 21:56.01 | denon | JerJer: thats a pretty big job ... lots of vmail to config, lots of weird queues and stuff |
| 21:56.10 | denon | if the office really is that large |
| 21:56.26 | tzanger | ariel_: will do once it's done |
| 21:56.45 | Moc____ | they want to go with a Nortel IP PBX !!! |
| 21:57.06 | Moc____ | and I hate to see it happen if I didnt try alittle .. |
| 21:57.08 | bjohnson | I'd say breeze over the basics of what they would expect .. and then hit them with voip specific solutions. Cheaper LD, off-site workers, emailed voicemail, cheapper cell phone LD, more concurrent lines |
| 21:57.45 | ariel_ | The 3 main reasons we picked Asterisk over Nortel 3 years ago for use were. 1) Able to use normal Analog phones 2) Able to do Voip 3) Able to be installed on normal 1U PC. |
| 21:58.16 | bjohnson | ie .. flexibility |
| 21:58.20 | ariel_ | 2nd reasons were price, Voicemail, Queues (needed for support department). |
| 21:58.49 | ariel_ | Last was it could use the analog phones we had already. |
| 21:59.45 | ariel_ | Moc____, Nortel IP PBX will only work well with there phones and gateways. |
| 21:59.53 | denon | [their] |
| 21:59.53 | Moc____ | I wish a FXS channel bank with PRI could offer a analog line for 56k dialup... |
| 22:00.02 | Moc____ | ariel_: , my brother firm got it with about 20 phone |
| 22:00.14 | wizhippo | finding a good voip provider in canada, that will be your biggest challenge. at least thats what i'm finding. |
| 22:00.23 | greg_work | mine are 1) voip (multiple locations), 2) flexibility 3) price - we didnt really have the budget to get a huge system, if we didnt use * we wouldn't be able to have a lot of the features at all |
| 22:00.24 | bjohnson | they might like ability to look up info over phone from remote locations and have it read back. Might not be something they want to pay for up front but ability to do in the future could be a hook |
| 22:00.32 | Uajal | Is there in Internet live examples of dialing external numbers (not extentions) with SIP? |
| 22:00.39 | ariel_ | We setup the support department to use modems for support calls via asterisk analog c/b to pri without any problems. |
| 22:00.45 | Moc____ | wizhippo: we dont need to do VoIP for in/out, we have already 4 PRI |
| 22:01.15 | wizhippo | I envy you |
| 22:01.16 | greg_work | Moc____: what happens if you get rid of some PRI's? |
| 22:01.19 | ariel_ | funny thing is that there still to this date not using a voip service for there LD |
| 22:01.27 | Moc____ | greg_work: they wont |
| 22:01.31 | greg_work | i mean, if you can replace them with voip (depending on your needs) |
| 22:01.32 | bjohnson | Uajal: dialing local sip extensions is no different than dialing external sip extensions |
| 22:01.49 | Moc____ | voip aint stable ennuf. Or I should say, Internet aint stable ennuf |
| 22:01.53 | bjohnson | Uajal: use the & in the dial command. Read the dial command wiki page |
| 22:01.59 | greg_work | saving say $1k / month wouldn't hurt the feature list of using * :) |
| 22:02.04 | *** join/#asterisk multrix (~chatzilla@ALyon-252-1-23-71.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:03.05 | bjohnson | or even .. "possible" saving of $1k/mo |
| 22:03.13 | bjohnson | let then choose it or not |
| 22:03.24 | bjohnson | show them the flexibility to change at any time is there |
| 22:03.30 | Moc____ | they just moved our LD from Allstream (5cent/min) to TelUs (3cent/min) |
| 22:03.38 | denon | yeah .. "after the first few days of lost business, you can always switch back" |
| 22:03.53 | bjohnson | btw .. Allstream just went to $0.04/minute |
| 22:04.17 | greg_work | primus did as well, apparently |
| 22:04.18 | Moc____ | i know, people doing those decisions, doesnt know what things is going with the world |
| 22:04.23 | bjohnson | denon: phased switching .. also a feature showing flexibility |
| 22:04.27 | Moc____ | anyway |
| 22:04.35 | Moc____ | tzanger: you got my email ? |
| 22:04.48 | Moc____ | ok got the email ;) |
| 22:05.02 | greg_work | allstream is my favourite telco to deal with though |
| 22:05.13 | greg_work | wait, i worded that wrong. "least hated" |
| 22:05.44 | *** join/#asterisk xachen (justin@toto.citelnetworks.com) |
| 22:05.50 | bjohnson | sounds like they are sold on the voip idea for internal .. so you should concentrate on comparing Nortel vs * for just the internal system |
| 22:05.59 | bjohnson | then hit them with some external voip uses |
| 22:06.20 | bjohnson | even if they don't switch the entire firm over, there is likely some uses which they would like |
| 22:06.35 | Uajal | Bjohnson: I didn't find the dial at wikipedia |
| 22:06.42 | bjohnson | ~docs |
| 22:06.43 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 22:06.43 | Moc____ | All the time I called support, the first person who answered, is the person who have access to all the diagnostic... except going on site, but the guy will call the exact same guy |
| 22:06.55 | Moc____ | I like Allstream support for that |
| 22:06.55 | bjohnson | Uajal: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk keep looking |
| 22:07.10 | Moc____ | and they dont try to send the problem to someone else until they are certain |
| 22:07.47 | xachen | Voip info has all you rneeds :) |
| 22:10.33 | Uajal | Bjohnson: If you mean http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Dial I read it several times. Still I didn't find any example of dialinf external number with SIP. It is not the same as extention. Because extention should be preconfigured in sip.conf e.g. [2001] tpe=friend ... But external number is not preconfigured so it is different. |
| 22:11.09 | shmaltz | I am faced with the following problem: |
| 22:11.10 | shmaltz | I need to do virtual PBX hosting, and I need a way of doing call parking without interfering with each other, how can this be done? |
| 22:13.27 | Uajal | Bjohnson: that is what I ask: should external number be preconfigured in sip.conf as extention (e.g. [6465153498] type=peer ....)? |
| 22:13.47 | shido6 | y? |
| 22:14.03 | shido6 | you can |
| 22:14.08 | shido6 | so u can see the number in your softphone |
| 22:14.10 | bjohnson | Uajal: exten=_1NXXNXXXXXX, 1, dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@sip.broadvoice.com,30) |
| 22:14.16 | shido6 | but thats what displayname is for |
| 22:15.02 | bjohnson | exten=>_4,1,dial(SIP/6465153498@sip.broadvoice.com,30) |
| 22:15.08 | bjohnson | geez |
| 22:15.20 | Hmmhesays | have any of you seen a network setup where the default gateway is on a different network than the IP assigned to the machine? |
| 22:15.30 | shmaltz | I was thinking about using valet parking and have in each context (company): |
| 22:15.32 | shmaltz | exten => _7XXX,1,ValetParkcall(${EXTEN:1}|mylot|${CALLERIDNUM}|1|${CONTEXT}) |
| 22:15.33 | shmaltz | exten => _8XXX,1,ValetUnparkcall(${EXTEN:1}|mylot) |
| 22:15.35 | shmaltz | and have XXX match only extensions allowed to be dialed for that compony, or have a parking lot for them, has anybody implemented this? does it make snese? |
| 22:15.48 | shmaltz | Hmmhesays, yes if you use PPP |
| 22:15.49 | Beirdo | Hmmhesays: that won't work |
| 22:15.55 | thieumS | is this true there are some jumpers on TE410P ? |
| 22:16.03 | anthm | lol |
| 22:16.08 | Beirdo | unless it's point-to-point of course |
| 22:16.18 | bjohnson | yes ..we've sent out the fire department to talk them down |
| 22:16.26 | Hmmhesays | ahhh yes, good call |
| 22:16.31 | Hmmhesays | I was stumped for a second |
| 22:16.41 | Uajal | Bjohnson: May be I don't understand but I didn't ask about outbound calls |
| 22:17.05 | Uajal | This patterns (as I understood) are for outbound calls |
| 22:17.45 | anthm | shmaltz, why is mylot static? the whole point of valetparking is that the lot name gives you and entire namespace of exten per unique lot name. |
| 22:17.51 | bjohnson | Uajal: notice the difference between: |
| 22:17.53 | bjohnson | exten=>_4,1,dial(SIP/6465153498@sip.broadvoice.com,30) |
| 22:17.54 | bjohnson | and |
| 22:17.59 | bjohnson | exten=>_4,1,dial(SIP/2201,30) |
| 22:18.12 | bjohnson | pretty much the same format correct? |
| 22:18.16 | anthm | perhaps you'd like to come to cluecon |
| 22:18.21 | shmaltz | anthm, thanks for this, I didnt think about this. thanks :) |
| 22:18.28 | anthm | =D |
| 22:18.50 | bjohnson | Uajal: or even exten=>_4,1,dial(SIP/6465153498@sip.broadvoice.com&SIP/2201,30) |
| 22:19.29 | shmaltz | so I can realy use: |
| 22:19.29 | shmaltz | exten => _7XXX,1,ValetParkcall(${EXTEN:1}|${CONTEXT}|${CALLERIDNUM}|1|${CONTEXT}) |
| 22:19.29 | *** join/#asterisk Frantic__ (~ab@24-193-46-85.nyc.rr.com) |
| 22:19.29 | shmaltz | exten => _8XXX,1,ValetUnparkcall(${EXTEN:1}|${CONTEXT}t) |
| 22:19.32 | bkw_ | take the last "t" out |
| 22:19.55 | shmaltz | yep, thanks, bkw_, it was a typo while pasting |
| 22:20.27 | Uajal | In this example extention 2201 should be preconfigured in sip.conf as [2201] ... Should the phone number be preconfigured also or not? |
| 22:20.49 | bjohnson | no .. just sip.broadvoice.com |
| 22:21.16 | bjohnson | otherwise you would have to define a sip.conf entry for each phone number you would ever like to dial |
| 22:21.37 | Sedorox | hmmmmm |
| 22:21.46 | Uajal | What should I check if I receive: Called 6465153948@sip.broadvoice.com Got SIP response 404 "Not Found" back from 147.135.0.128 |
| 22:22.13 | shmaltz | how can I have the recptionist(operator) park a call for someone that is restrcited to a specific context? |
| 22:22.15 | *** join/#asterisk chetan (freetibet@24-193-188-21.nyc.rr.com) |
| 22:22.34 | JerJer | Uajal: do they want an 011 prefixed? |
| 22:22.49 | bjohnson | http://www.broadvoice.com/support_install_asterisk.html |
| 22:23.20 | bjohnson | looks like they expect typical NA style 11 digit dialing |
| 22:23.57 | bjohnson | so should be exten=>_4,1,dial(SIP/16465153498@sip.broadvoice.com&SIP/2201,30) |
| 22:24.19 | anthm | shmaltz, where are you getting valetparking from anyway i'm sure it must be out of date. |
| 22:24.45 | Uajal | I will check again with 1646... |
| 22:24.47 | shmaltz | why should it be out of date? |
| 22:24.53 | shmaltz | anthm |
| 22:25.39 | *** part/#asterisk wizhippo (~wizhippo@Quebec-HSE-ppp233869.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:26.08 | shmaltz | I got it from the wiki |
| 22:26.09 | shmaltz | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+addons |
| 22:26.11 | shmaltz | http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/apps/app_valetparking.c |
| 22:26.16 | shmaltz | anthm, you any other solution? |
| 22:26.22 | anthm | yah old as a mofo |
| 22:26.33 | terrapen | some of these comments on the wiki are so retarded |
| 22:26.38 | anthm | unofficial release =D |
| 22:26.40 | shmaltz | bkw_, are you aware of anything as good, or better better? |
| 22:26.56 | bjohnson | shmaltz: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-October/067189.html |
| 22:26.56 | terrapen | here's a guy bitching about nufone...and he's never even fucking used them! |
| 22:27.46 | shmaltz | bjohnson, that doens't help much at the moment |
| 22:28.06 | shmaltz | regular parking gives me too much trouble from my cisco xfer and blindxfer |
| 22:30.15 | *** join/#asterisk neopher (~crazy@mail.techhelpresources.com) |
| 22:30.55 | shmaltz | anthm, stop it. I'm trying to work |
| 22:31.23 | *** join/#asterisk verge (~jfargen@56-116.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 22:31.35 | neopher | anyone know how to unpack a windows installer .msi file, tring to get 30 vip fireware from CCM |
| 22:31.42 | Uajal | Bjohnson: The same error. Here is my [sip.broadvoice.com] |
| 22:31.42 | Uajal | type=peer |
| 22:31.42 | Uajal | host=proxy.dca.broadvoice.com |
| 22:31.42 | Uajal | fromdomain=sip.broadvoice.com |
| 22:31.42 | Uajal | fromuser=MYNUMBER |
| 22:31.42 | Uajal | secret=MYSECRET |
| 22:31.44 | Uajal | context=from-broadvoice |
| 22:31.46 | Uajal | insecure=very |
| 22:31.51 | Sedorox | Uajal: |
| 22:31.56 | Sedorox | never... paste in the channel |
| 22:31.58 | doughecka_ | neopher: maybe run it, and then check the temp folder? |
| 22:31.58 | Sedorox | ~pastebin |
| 22:31.59 | jbot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 22:32.12 | Uajal | OK. I didn't know this rule |
| 22:32.34 | Uajal | I will not |
| 22:32.56 | Sedorox | hehe |
| 22:33.01 | Sedorox | just note it for the future :-p |
| 22:34.15 | neopher | doughecka_: tried that, the installer freeks out because i tried to install it on non cisco approved hardward |
| 22:34.39 | doughecka_ | ah |
| 22:35.07 | shmaltz | anthm, no not that, but fighting in the public |
| 22:35.26 | anthm | fighting? |
| 22:36.49 | terrapen | the interweb is down! |
| 22:38.31 | mooboi | does anyone has a simple extension.conf file with a single x100p configured ? ive google my way around without any luck from voip-info.... i need a bare* one |
| 22:39.17 | malcolmd | neopher: http://protools.reverse-engineering.net/files/decompilers/fmsiu.zip |
| 22:39.18 | Sedorox | ummm |
| 22:39.46 | Sedorox | exten => _9NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(Zap/1/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 22:40.12 | mooboi | thas plain basic ; ) |
| 22:40.26 | terrapen | how do you test 911? |
| 22:40.32 | terrapen | is there some procedure to follow? |
| 22:40.36 | mooboi | asteriskdoc is great, but still in its pre-teen |
| 22:40.40 | zigman | you don't ;) |
| 22:40.49 | BrianR___ | tzanger: I'm about to do a Norstar MICS <-> asterisk intergation.. |
| 22:41.00 | dsmouse | terracon: over pots or voip outbound? |
| 22:41.03 | mooboi | 911 and voip dont mix so far, 911 is so tied to the land line for adress intervention ... |
| 22:41.06 | Sedorox | terrapen: my poppop.. whenever he got a new phone.. he would dial 911.. and tell them that he is just calling to make sure it works |
| 22:41.09 | Beirdo | terrapen: you wait for a real emergency... then dial |
| 22:41.10 | dsmouse | terracon: I ment terrapen again |
| 22:41.12 | Sedorox | and they actually liked him calling |
| 22:41.16 | terrapen | haha |
| 22:41.17 | *** join/#asterisk dsfr (~dsfr@216.207.244.184) |
| 22:41.23 | terrapen | that's solid |
| 22:41.26 | Beirdo | make sure you have a real phone nearby though :) |
| 22:41.33 | dsmouse | terrapen: over pots or voip outbound? |
| 22:41.37 | terrapen | one of our stores was robbed once |
| 22:41.40 | terrapen | ds: voipo |
| 22:41.42 | terrapen | err voip |
| 22:41.45 | mooboi | any good doc ressources beside asteriskdoc and voipinfo ? |
| 22:41.50 | BrianR___ | Should be interesting..; |
| 22:41.55 | terrapen | i guess i could just make 911 go to 210.828.3321 |
| 22:41.58 | terrapen | which is local PD |
| 22:42.01 | terrapen | non-emergency, tho |
| 22:42.06 | anthm | come to cluecon and learn everything! |
| 22:42.13 | mooboi | url ? |
| 22:42.16 | mooboi | oh |
| 22:42.20 | bkw_ | shmaltz, anthm wrote valetparking... When I took the parking idea to anthm I had a call parking switch.. which half ass worked.. he really made valetparking and made it more kick ass |
| 22:42.20 | mooboi | con... |
| 22:42.24 | dsmouse | terrapen: I suspect how they'll react is diffrent depending on the locality... call the non-emergancy number and ask if they mind? |
| 22:42.27 | BrianR___ | A lot of local PD's don't offer non-911 emergency numbers... Very odd. |
| 22:42.46 | terrapen | how do i get on the converence call? is it as simple as setting up an extenstion that does: |
| 22:42.49 | neopher | ours does |
| 22:42.54 | terrapen | Dial(IAX2/guest@66.250.68.194/996) |
| 22:42.54 | Beirdo | "no, I'm sorry, you have the wrong number... this is 912" |
| 22:42.55 | bkw_ | shmaltz, and if anthm and I were fighting.. EVERONE here would know it! |
| 22:42.58 | BrianR___ | The town I live in and the surrounding towns have 10 digit emergency numbers for historical reasons.. |
| 22:43.22 | dsmouse | terrapen: or call 911 to report a road hazard |
| 22:43.34 | terrapen | mouse: hahaha |
| 22:43.34 | Sedorox | Homer: "Hello operater. give the number to 911!!!!" |
| 22:43.39 | terrapen | A DEER BIT ME |
| 22:43.40 | BrianR___ | When i was a kid, 911 rang through to the LEC's operator. |
| 22:43.44 | terrapen | I NEED A BAMBULANCE |
| 22:44.02 | yashax | Guys, can anyone recommend a good/reliable SNTP server? (is it the same as NTP?) |
| 22:44.07 | dsmouse | I ment more like obstruction in the road or something |
| 22:44.14 | bkw_ | yashax, you have to ask? |
| 22:44.25 | terrapen | yashax, time.apple.com |
| 22:44.31 | bkw_ | yes you can use ntp in place of sntp |
| 22:44.35 | bkw_ | or time.windows.com |
| 22:44.35 | bkw_ | haha |
| 22:44.39 | BrianR___ | yashax: most ntp servers provide both the sntp (quickly set time) and the ntp protocol for sub-millisecond synchronization. |
| 22:44.43 | bkw_ | or tick.usno.navy.mil |
| 22:44.43 | yashax | thought so, but wanted to make sure.... |
| 22:44.44 | Sedorox | ntp.nist.org |
| 22:44.46 | Sedorox | I think |
| 22:44.47 | terrapen | i used to use clock.home.net |
| 22:44.47 | bkw_ | or tock.usno.navy.mil |
| 22:44.51 | terrapen | but they went out of business |
| 22:44.55 | denon | bkw_: I thought one or both of those are gone now |
| 22:44.59 | bkw_ | no |
| 22:45.00 | drumkilla | tick.mit.edu |
| 22:45.01 | bkw_ | they are there |
| 22:45.03 | terrapen | i'm thinking about setting up clock.gpstools.com |
| 22:45.04 | denon | er, closed |
| 22:45.05 | BrianR___ | Use pool.ntp.org |
| 22:45.18 | bkw_ | I don't trust that |
| 22:45.20 | denon | I dont like the idea of those round robin ntps |
| 22:45.23 | Sedorox | thats what I ment |
| 22:45.24 | denon | too much reliance on them sticking around |
| 22:45.30 | bkw_ | denon, i'm with ya on that one |
| 22:45.30 | JerJer | buy a GPS reciever |
| 22:45.34 | bkw_ | or CDMA phone |
| 22:45.36 | JerJer | jack it into a linux box |
| 22:45.37 | denon | and too much reliance on them not screwing you, wheras most 1st and 2nd stratums are safe |
| 22:45.44 | terrapen | JerJer, we are a garmin dealer |
| 22:45.50 | terrapen | i guess i should hook it up |
| 22:45.55 | bkw_ | getting time from GPS is da bomb |
| 22:45.59 | denon | JerJer: ya, but then you gotta have 3 or 4 of em for redundancy .. or one in each and every server |
| 22:46.15 | *** join/#asterisk jdg (~jdg@CA03F960.adsl.mana.pf) |
| 22:46.15 | terrapen | i wonder if i can get OpenNTPD to work with a GPS receive3r |
| 22:46.18 | BrianR___ | A large number of NTP servers would have to collude before your time could windup off... |
| 22:46.24 | Beirdo | OpenNTPD is ass |
| 22:46.32 | denon | BrianR___: or they could just point them all to their own bogus one |
| 22:46.35 | terrapen | beirdo: por que? |
| 22:46.41 | Beirdo | they ripped out all the useful stuff and dumbed it down |
| 22:46.47 | Beirdo | it doesn't even track drift |
| 22:46.52 | Beirdo | when I looked at it |
| 22:46.54 | Beirdo | use xntpd |
| 22:46.56 | *** join/#asterisk pr0m (~pr0metheu@ip-wv-68-187-250-031.charterwv.net) |
| 22:47.14 | yashax | Strange... Even though I input the right NTp server in Polycom IP500, it is still showing incorrect time... any ideas? (already tried 3 different servers) |
| 22:47.17 | pr0m | is asterisk available in fedora core 2 repositories? |
| 22:47.25 | terrapen | yashax, time zone |
| 22:47.32 | DJ-Pyro | yeah, what he said |
| 22:47.34 | denon | yashax: using the ip or the name? if the name, make sure you have dns set |
| 22:47.56 | yashax | ip |
| 22:48.04 | Sedorox | yashax: make sure you have the currect timezone setup |
| 22:48.07 | Sedorox | like mine is -5:00 |
| 22:48.10 | Sedorox | for EST... |
| 22:48.12 | yashax | time zone is set correct as well, but good call.. |
| 22:48.16 | Sedorox | if you don't.. it sets to what you have |
| 22:48.20 | Sedorox | kk |
| 22:48.25 | BrianR___ | denon: The Network Time Project folks could also release a backdoored version of their NTP server if they wanted to screw up time for people. |
| 22:48.27 | denon | ok .. one more person tell him to set the timezone please.. |
| 22:48.40 | bkw_ | -5:00 is CST6CDT or something too |
| 22:48.43 | Sedorox | denon: I didn't see it asked before |
| 22:48.46 | Beirdo | and terrapen: I trust the collective experience of the ntp.org types over Theo *any* day |
| 22:48.52 | denon | BrianR___: yeah .. im just saying I can trust that stratum 1 servers and most stratum 2s wont screw with me |
| 22:49.10 | Beirdo | EST5EDT? |
| 22:49.44 | denon | using the pool is probably safe enough .. Id just still prefer to have 2 other sources, if even due to a catestrophic dns failure |
| 22:49.47 | denon | or a domain hijacking |
| 22:49.56 | terrapen | yashax, its done in ipmid.cnf in the <SNTP> section |
| 22:50.02 | terrapen | and it uses a offset from GMT |
| 22:50.03 | terrapen | in seconds |
| 22:50.06 | BrianR___ | Well... One shouldn't rely on a single pool.. |
| 22:50.08 | mikegrb | theo the rat |
| 22:50.11 | terrapen | ie -21600 |
| 22:50.39 | Beirdo | mikegrb: that's the one :) I'll live with OpenBSD for it's usefulness, but OpenNTPD can eat me |
| 22:50.54 | terrapen | i trust OpenBSD code over others |
| 22:50.56 | yashax | terrapen: Can I not set it right on the phone? I am doing this now.... |
| 22:51.00 | terrapen | it's never done me wrong |
| 22:51.11 | denon | its cheap enough .. just make a bios option to disable it for the privacy freaks |
| 22:51.14 | terrapen | yashax, try it and see if it works |
| 22:51.19 | moonwick | sounds like an expensive, silly feature |
| 22:51.29 | yashax | doing it now... |
| 22:51.35 | Beirdo | denon: no thanks, that's silly, you'd need good antennas, etc. |
| 22:51.38 | Beirdo | waste of money |
| 22:52.19 | denon | Beirdo: just an external connector |
| 22:52.22 | terrapen | one more component to break |
| 22:52.22 | shmaltz | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1211&e=1&u=/nm/20050221/tc_nm/tech_security_dc&sid=95573372 |
| 22:52.26 | terrapen | more complexity |
| 22:52.28 | terrapen | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.31 | denon | Beirdo: it wasnt long ago, people thought a standard nic was a waste of money |
| 22:52.34 | Beirdo | the extra cost ain't worth it |
| 22:52.37 | denon | and before that, a modem |
| 22:52.42 | terrapen | USB GPSes are cheap |
| 22:52.46 | denon | what extra cost, it could be built right into a chipset |
| 22:52.54 | denon | very little cost |
| 22:53.00 | yashax | rebooting |
| 22:53.27 | Beirdo | GPS has no useful purpose in most computers |
| 22:53.30 | denon | oh, pool.ntp.org is just a collection of whoever wants to add their server? |
| 22:53.37 | denon | good grief, thats lame.. |
| 22:53.49 | Beirdo | yes, pool.ntp.org is almost all of the stratum2 |
| 22:53.52 | denon | Beirdo: an accurate timing source could be valuable for lots of stuff |
| 22:54.01 | terrapen | gpsdrive roxx tho |
| 22:54.09 | shmaltz | anthm, is this different than the other one? |
| 22:54.19 | shmaltz | anthm, thanks |
| 22:54.19 | Beirdo | the vast majority of computers are used for Winblows, playing games, etc. |
| 22:54.31 | anthm | yep |
| 22:54.33 | BrianR___ | The round-robin DNS for pool.ntp.org is built programaticly based on reliability and accuracy measurement... |
| 22:54.40 | anthm | this one has chan_valet on it too |
| 22:54.43 | Beirdo | it's only useful for servers, and only if you want a local NTP source on said computer |
| 22:55.03 | shmaltz | any doces or commands on how to use it? anthm, |
| 22:55.22 | denon | Beirdo: oh I dunno, it'd be nice if all home users knew their computers were perfectly in sync |
| 22:55.31 | denon | and most laptop users would want gps maps at some point or another |
| 22:55.44 | Beirdo | not worth the extra $50 cost per motherboard |
| 22:55.48 | denon | 50? no way |
| 22:55.50 | yashax | terrapen: What would be the offset for -5 (default: tcpIpApp.sntp.gmtOffset="-28800") |
| 22:55.59 | Sedorox | you could argue that the GPS built in is a invasion of privacy |
| 22:56.02 | denon | probably more like 2-5 with a wide-spread chipset, and the connectors |
| 22:56.07 | shmaltz | anthm, how can I use the cannel in the dial plan? |
| 22:56.08 | Beirdo | not even worth an extra $2 per board |
| 22:56.10 | terrapen | -21600 + 3600 |
| 22:56.12 | anthm | exten => *7,1,Dial(Valet/fifo:mylot) |
| 22:56.18 | denon | Sedorox: yeah, like I said an hour ago .. give a bios or jumper option to disable it |
| 22:56.25 | terrapen | jbot: -21600 + 3600 |
| 22:56.26 | jbot | -18000 |
| 22:56.30 | Beirdo | Sedorox: how so, it doesn't transmit :) |
| 22:56.30 | terrapen | there ya go |
| 22:56.41 | denon | jbot: -e+1 * 5 |
| 22:56.42 | jbot | 2.281718171541 |
| 22:56.45 | terrapen | haha |
| 22:56.46 | anthm | will unpark the longest waiting parked call when you dial that channel |
| 22:56.47 | doughecka_ | hah |
| 22:56.50 | terrapen | jbot: 1/0 |
| 22:56.52 | jbot | [1/0] undefined |
| 22:56.53 | Sedorox | denon: true... |
| 22:56.56 | Beirdo | that's like saying a TV tuner is a privacy invasion |
| 22:57.01 | doughecka_ | ~convert 1 year into fortnights |
| 22:57.04 | terrapen | jbot: sqrt(1/0) |
| 22:57.05 | BrianR___ | standard gps on pc motherboards won't help your problem much anyway... |
| 22:57.12 | Sedorox | Beirdo: well yea.. but people may also want to locate their laptop if stolen |
| 22:57.14 | BrianR___ | Most users won't bother to hook up the antenna |
| 22:57.16 | terrapen | ruh roh |
| 22:57.18 | Sedorox | I personally would want that... |
| 22:57.25 | BrianR___ | or if they do, they won't bother to make sure it has a clear view of the sky |
| 22:57.26 | terrapen | did i kill hiim? |
| 22:57.29 | yashax | Can you force IP500 to re-read the config without having to reboot? |
| 22:57.32 | denon | BrianR___: a good sensative receiver with a loaded antenna in the case could probably do ok |
| 22:57.34 | terrapen | jbot: sqrt(1/0) |
| 22:57.41 | Sedorox | with being on a college campus.. if I mistakenly leave my $3k laptop somewhere.. I wanna know where it is! |
| 22:57.43 | Beirdo | Sedorox: ahhh, like an on-star type of thing |
| 22:57.49 | terrapen | jbot has gone wonky |
| 22:57.50 | doughecka_ | ~httpdtype digium.com |
| 22:57.50 | Sedorox | kinda of |
| 22:57.51 | Beirdo | or lo-jack |
| 22:57.55 | doughecka_ | sweet |
| 22:57.55 | Sedorox | :-p |
| 22:57.57 | shmaltz | anthem, what is the /n for ? |
| 22:57.59 | doughecka_ | ~httpdtype msn.com |
| 22:58.01 | Beirdo | yeah, that could be useful |
| 22:58.08 | denon | ~httpdtype localhost |
| 22:58.10 | terrapen | ~httpdtype http://chrissnell.com:17411 |
| 22:58.15 | Sedorox | we've had people just walk into dorms here.. the second week of school.. and stole to desktops... |
| 22:58.21 | stevekstevek | hmm, -e+1 * 5 = 2.281718171541? (nevermind, doh! * has higher precedence.) |
| 22:58.25 | terrapen | why is he ignnoring me? |
| 22:58.34 | TrevorSHarrison | yashax: re EST offset... give me a yell if you get the IP500 to correctly use that when configuring manually... my IP500's just ignore me. |
| 22:58.35 | terrapen | ~httpdtype bikeworld.com |
| 22:58.37 | doughecka_ | ~httpdtype monkey.com |
| 22:58.46 | denon | ~httpdtype 0.0.0.0 |
| 22:58.50 | doughecka_ | ~httpdtype sco.com |
| 22:58.50 | BrianR___ | denon: Most of my testing has shown that GPS is pretty much useless inside any concrete / metal building and mostly useless inside wood fram structures... |
| 22:58.59 | Sedorox | ~httpdtype 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:59.01 | jets | Sedorox: Write a mini application that is a heartbeat, every 5 minutes it connects to a url... runs in the background, etc. |
| 22:59.03 | Beirdo | jeez |
| 22:59.04 | terrapen | ~httpdtype saba.island.nu |
| 22:59.06 | denon | BrianR___: so how about a backup of radio :) |
| 22:59.10 | terrapen | HAHA |
| 22:59.11 | jets | aka you will be able to track it by ip if they plug it in to the internet. |
| 22:59.12 | shmaltz | anthm, you mean valetparking? |
| 22:59.15 | Sedorox | jets: yea |
| 22:59.15 | terrapen | I LOVE YOU JBOT |
| 22:59.22 | Beirdo | ~google: dumbass |
| 22:59.25 | anthm | yah ?? |
| 22:59.26 | BrianR___ | We had to run put an antenna on the roof for our NTP time source... |
| 22:59.31 | terrapen | ~httpdtype lamberttriebel.com |
| 22:59.36 | stevekstevek | ~httpdtype 127.0.0.1:5038 |
| 22:59.45 | stevekstevek | heh |
| 22:59.54 | denon | ~httpdtype 127.0.0.1\:22 |
| 22:59.59 | Beirdo | ~google asterisk rules |
| 23:00.00 | BrianR___ | couldn't even get the signal through the windows - some sort of tinting on them was attenuating it too much. |
| 23:00.01 | Sedorox | ~httpdtype neltia.net |
| 23:00.07 | terrapen | brian, what software are you using? |
| 23:00.11 | yashax | terrapen: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!! It worked... strange... does not work by manually entering the info into the phone... |
| 23:00.11 | shmaltz | is valetparking the command for using the channel? |
| 23:00.14 | doughecka_ | ~wtf |
| 23:00.26 | doughecka_ | ~wtf iirc |
| 23:00.28 | terrapen | yashax: no problem |
| 23:00.34 | *** join/#asterisk syslod (~yurplsl@65.114.0.198) |
| 23:00.45 | terrapen | jbot: sqrt(0) |
| 23:00.50 | terrapen | he doesn't like that |
| 23:00.50 | bkw_ | terrapen, what softwarE? |
| 23:00.53 | TrevorSHarrison | yashax: thanks... I ran into the same thing, just haven't taken the time to setup the offset in the dhcp options yets |
| 23:00.55 | bkw_ | gotta narrow that down a bit |
| 23:01.02 | terrapen | bkw, im wondering what he's using to sync gps to ntp |
| 23:01.05 | terrapen | gpsd? |
| 23:01.14 | terrapen | err sync ntp to gps |
| 23:01.15 | BrianR___ | terrapen: some sort of time source appliance.. Forget the brand name. It provides a 10mhz reference oscillator bus, TDM synchronization bus, and ntp over ethenret. |
| 23:01.17 | bkw_ | you can use linux for that |
| 23:01.24 | denon | real men write shell scripts to parse the serial data |
| 23:01.25 | bkw_ | it shows up as a kernel clock src or something |
| 23:01.27 | bkw_ | google for it |
| 23:01.30 | shmaltz | anthm, how can I get access to the valetpakring channel? is it thru the valetparking cmd? |
| 23:01.38 | bkw_ | Dial |
| 23:01.39 | bkw_ | :P |
| 23:01.45 | anthm | i pasted it, no ? |
| 23:01.48 | anthm | exten => *7,1,Dial(Valet/fifo:mylot) |
| 23:02.12 | terrapen | http://www.gpstools.com/components/catalog/product.html?pid=518&cat=376 |
| 23:02.15 | BrianR___ | We use it for T1 clocking crap too. |
| 23:02.15 | jayden | ~asterlink |
| 23:02.16 | jbot | hmm... asterlink is "<bkw_> http://www.asterlink.com we do sip and iax also boi" |
| 23:02.16 | terrapen | thats what i need to set up |
| 23:02.23 | anthm | thats optional , the rest works the same |
| 23:02.42 | stevekstevek | chan_boi cool.. |
| 23:02.52 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:02.55 | bkw_ | smartass... |
| 23:02.57 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:03.14 | syslod | asterlink is down from here. |
| 23:03.14 | jayden | so, who is in MI? |
| 23:03.18 | bkw_ | stevekstevek, you wanna work and lets get your app_conf updated and for cvs-head? |
| 23:03.31 | *** join/#asterisk Zaw (zaw@zaw.subneural.net) |
| 23:03.42 | bkw_ | syslod, what country? |
| 23:03.43 | stevekstevek | bkw_: soon.. |
| 23:03.58 | stevekstevek | can we get the new jb in there first :) |
| 23:04.09 | syslod | US. I'm in the qwest pop right now. |
| 23:04.11 | jayden | anthm- is that heading for CVS? |
| 23:04.13 | bkw_ | lets ride mark like zoro for that |
| 23:04.24 | bkw_ | syslod, asterlink.com loads here |
| 23:04.26 | jayden | ride like zoro... nice |
| 23:04.33 | anthm | it doesnt depend on core so it loads just fine from that url |
| 23:04.41 | *** join/#asterisk booleahn (~buleeahn@66-141-61-2.ded.swbell.net) |
| 23:04.51 | stevekstevek | it needs testers.. And maybe someone to code up a better way to have it auto-disable when you're bridged to a VoIP channel.. |
| 23:04.57 | terrapen | asterlink fine here |
| 23:05.04 | syslod | I believe you. Looks like some kinda DNS issue. |
| 23:05.08 | bkw_ | odd |
| 23:05.13 | bkw_ | syslod, who is your ISP? |
| 23:05.15 | jayden | gotta run... have fun kids. |
| 23:05.22 | terrapen | syslod whats your NS |
| 23:05.37 | syslod | QWEST |
| 23:05.41 | terrapen | i'll tell you what does seem down again....sourceforge |
| 23:05.53 | terrapen | is it my network or is sourceforge always down |
| 23:05.54 | anthm | those w head can issue /usr/src/asterisk/contrib/scripts/astxs -autoload -install http://www.pbxclue.com/asterisk_apps/app_valetparking.c and go from 0 to valet w/o even restarting * |
| 23:05.58 | denon | ~httpdtype sourceforge.net |
| 23:06.05 | denon | looks up to me |
| 23:06.21 | terrapen | its just....slow |
| 23:06.44 | denon | yeah .. its running on linux. |
| 23:06.48 | terrapen | haha |
| 23:07.01 | denon | dont worry, they'll move it to FreeBSD soon |
| 23:07.10 | syslod | bkw: Craps out in DC. cogentco? |
| 23:07.37 | terrapen | denon: suuuure |
| 23:07.48 | terrapen | they are zelots |
| 23:07.50 | terrapen | errr |
| 23:07.51 | terrapen | zealots |
| 23:08.03 | bkw_ | syslod, whats the last ip? |
| 23:08.10 | doughecka_ | ~httpdtype bkw.org |
| 23:08.34 | bkw_ | telnet port 80 on it |
| 23:08.36 | bkw_ | see if you get it |
| 23:08.43 | terrapen | ~httpdtype acme.com |
| 23:08.48 | terrapen | word. |
| 23:08.51 | terrapen | thttpd++ |
| 23:08.58 | terrapen | ~httpdtype cr.yp.to |
| 23:09.05 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:09.07 | bkw_ | lame |
| 23:09.14 | terrapen | publicfile == weird |
| 23:09.14 | doughecka_ | lol |
| 23:09.16 | stevekstevek | astxs seems cool.. |
| 23:09.24 | Sedorox | ~httpdtype microsoft.com |
| 23:09.25 | syslod | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.25 | syslod | .250.8.206] |
| 23:09.25 | bkw_ | seems? |
| 23:09.29 | Sedorox | damn... |
| 23:09.29 | bkw_ | is that all you can say SEEMS? |
| 23:09.29 | denon | ~httpdtype /etc/passwd |
| 23:09.34 | Sedorox | was hoping to see apache |
| 23:09.43 | stevekstevek | I haven't actually _tried_ it yet :) |
| 23:09.50 | doughecka_ | ~httpdtype riker |
| 23:09.50 | RGi_ | yo |
| 23:09.50 | *** kick/#asterisk [Sedorox!~brian@bkw.developer.and.friend.of.asterisk] by bkw_ (NO DADDY NO!!!) |
| 23:09.51 | *** join/#asterisk Sedorox (brandon@Neptune.client.wlmsprt.pa.sed6.net) |
| 23:09.55 | stevekstevek | I figured the cool people never actually try stuff :) |
| 23:09.59 | doughecka_ | lol |
| 23:10.01 | bkw_ | haha |
| 23:10.06 | RGi_ | waz up |
| 23:10.15 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 23:10.16 | syslod | bkw: no telnet to port 80 |
| 23:10.18 | RGi_ | bala me? |
| 23:10.31 | terrapen | ~httpdtype devnull.homeunix.com |
| 23:10.32 | Uajal | in outbound calls dtmf doesn't work (no reaction on pressing buttons). In inbound calls it works properly. What can be the reason. I tried all 3 settings: dtmfmode=inbound,info,rfc2833 |
| 23:11.42 | bkw_ | Uajal, this on SIP? |
| 23:11.50 | Uajal | yes |
| 23:11.55 | bkw_ | between what and what? |
| 23:11.59 | terrapen | uhh |
| 23:12.00 | terrapen | its inband |
| 23:12.02 | terrapen | not inbound |
| 23:12.03 | TrevorSHarrison | l8rs |
| 23:12.10 | bkw_ | doesn't matter |
| 23:12.18 | terrapen | ok |
| 23:12.19 | bkw_ | the dtmf is getting negociated wrong |
| 23:12.22 | bkw_ | on rfc2833 |
| 23:12.29 | bkw_ | I suspect one end or the other is in violation of the RFC |
| 23:12.37 | bkw_ | namely the timestamps on the DTMF packets |
| 23:12.44 | bkw_ | rtp debug can show you |
| 23:12.49 | Uajal | Inband works OK |
| 23:12.54 | bkw_ | if you see the timestamps increase when you dial |
| 23:12.59 | bkw_ | then that end is WRONG WRONG WRONG |
| 23:13.05 | bkw_ | the timestamps on dtmf never increase |
| 23:13.06 | terrapen | uajal: so now it works? |
| 23:13.26 | Uajal | No |
| 23:13.36 | bkw_ | rtp debug and get a sip debug |
| 23:13.42 | bkw_ | and i'll show you exactly where its failing |
| 23:13.51 | Uajal | How can I see timestamps? |
| 23:14.02 | syslod | Anyone here today interested in SECABS or CABS BOS? I hate writing things by myself. |
| 23:14.05 | bkw_ | you'll need to dial digits on both ends while doing rtp debug |
| 23:14.17 | bkw_ | Uajal, "rtp debug" "sip debug" |
| 23:14.18 | bkw_ | duh |
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| 23:16.39 | Uajal | rtp debug is essential or it can be done with sip debug? |
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| 23:19.41 | Uajal | I tried sip debug. It seems that nothing appear on the screen when I press buttons of my cell during this call (while inband my cell works OK) |
| 23:20.08 | bkw_ | it won't |
| 23:20.15 | bkw_ | rtp debug you'll see when you press digits |
| 23:20.35 | shmaltz | bkw_, is ther anyway I can park a call using Dial(valet/auto:mylot)? I only succeeded in unparking a call this way. |
| 23:20.37 | Uajal | I have not rtp debug. |
| 23:20.57 | Uajal | in Asterisk help there is no such command |
| 23:21.10 | bkw_ | shmaltz, nope |
| 23:21.18 | bkw_ | Uajal, what version of asterisk are you using? |
| 23:21.21 | bkw_ | latest stable or head? |
| 23:21.48 | shmaltz | bkw_, there is no autosensing in any of the commands? |
| 23:22.54 | bkw_ | shmaltz, no really |
| 23:22.58 | Uajal | CVS-v1-0-02/15/05 |
| 23:23.19 | Uajal | I suppose it is stable |
| 23:23.51 | *** part/#asterisk paulc (~paulc@S010600062586a0b4.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 23:24.07 | bkw_ | Uajal, I would have to bill you to even look at this |
| 23:24.10 | bkw_ | I know whats going on |
| 23:24.21 | bkw_ | but I can't relay to you it seems on how to collect the info needed |
| 23:24.31 | bkw_ | rtp debug while you're dialing in rfc2833 s what I wanna see |
| 23:24.38 | bkw_ | s/s/is/ |
| 23:25.00 | Sedorox | hmmm |
| 23:25.21 | bkw_ | in and outbound dialing |
| 23:25.29 | bkw_ | so call someone play marry had a little lamb or something |
| 23:25.36 | bkw_ | :P |
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| 23:25.58 | bkw_ | thats what I did when I fixed dtmf last time it was broken |
| 23:26.14 | bkw_ | asterisk was increasing the timestamps on the dtmf packets |
| 23:26.18 | bkw_ | which is a no no |
| 23:26.22 | Uajal | bkw: didn't catch an idea behind |
| 23:26.46 | bkw_ | brb |
| 23:26.54 | bkw_ | Sedorox, why? |
| 23:26.55 | *** join/#asterisk Cresl1n (~matt@216.207.245.23) |
| 23:26.59 | bkw_ | speak up |
| 23:27.04 | Sedorox | no... |
| 23:27.06 | shmaltz | bkw_, what am I doing wrong: |
| 23:27.08 | shmaltz | when nobody is parked and I do: valteparking(${EXTEN}|mylot|360|${EXTEN}|1|${CONTEXT}) I get sorry there is nobody ... |
| 23:27.08 | Cresl1n | yes |
| 23:27.09 | Cresl1n | :-) |
| 23:27.10 | shmaltz | when somebody is parked and I do: valteparking(${EXTEN}|mylot|360|${EXTEN}|1|${CONTEXT}) I get reorder |
| 23:27.10 | Cresl1n | ok |
| 23:27.11 | shmaltz | what am I doing wrong? |
| 23:27.12 | greg_work | jbot nat |
| 23:27.13 | jbot | i heard nat is Network Address Translation Usable in Asterisk sip.conf file with externip, localnet, and localmask setup properly. See docs. |
| 23:27.44 | greg_work | thats not what i was looking for |
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| 23:31.12 | Uajal | Thank you, bkw. Enough Asterisk depth for today for me. I am going to eat my lamb |
| 23:31.13 | drumkilla | does anyone know how to automatically provide a pass-phrase to init the keys? |
| 23:31.20 | drumkilla | so it doesn't have to be typed in? |
| 23:31.44 | syslod | ssh? |
| 23:32.01 | drumkilla | no, asterisk keys |
| 23:32.03 | greg_work | i want to take one of my SIP phones home ... my home network is NAT'd. my * box has a direct ip.. what do I need to do? put nat=yes in sip.conf, and open up ports in iptables? |
| 23:32.10 | syslod | oh. |
| 23:32.22 | drumkilla | asterisk -i ... |
| 23:32.27 | drumkilla | but then you type in a passphrase for your private keys |
| 23:32.38 | drumkilla | but I need to have it done automatically ... |
| 23:32.42 | Beirdo | greg_work: and pray, I think |
| 23:32.51 | greg_work | Beirdo: lol |
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| 23:33.32 | ManxPwr | ~docs |
| 23:33.33 | jbot | Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 23:33.34 | ManxPwr | ~clec |
| 23:33.35 | jbot | [clec] Created by the Telecommunications Act of 1996, a CLEC is a service provider that is in direct competition with an incumbent service provider. CLEC is often used as a general term for any competitor, but the term actually has legal implications. To become a CLEC, a service provider must be granted "CLEC status" by a state's Public Utilities Commission. In ... |
| 23:37.36 | greg_work | hm, well it seems to work |
| 23:38.03 | greg_work | (from behind my NAT here, anyways.. hopefully its not just sneaking around and using the local ip's) |
| 23:38.28 | Sedorox | greg_work: when I took my voip phone home over a weekend.. I didn't need to open any ports or anything.. just worked (tm) |
| 23:38.37 | greg_work | i meant locally |
| 23:38.45 | jsolares | greg_work: if the phone supports it use qualify=x |
| 23:38.54 | greg_work | i have udp/5060 and 10000-20000 open |
| 23:39.03 | greg_work | and nat=yes and qualify=yes |
| 23:39.10 | jsolares | then you should be set to go |
| 23:39.26 | jsolares | if you plan on calling other natted phones you have to use, canreinvite=no |
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| 23:40.03 | greg_work | seems to work with nat=never as well? |
| 23:40.19 | jsolares | dunno |
| 23:40.19 | denon | probably nat=anything |
| 23:40.28 | denon | except no |
| 23:40.31 | greg_work | i have nat=never and its working ;) |
| 23:40.38 | terrapen | Paris Hilton's T-Mobile Sidekick getting stolen was probably a great thing for T-Mobile |
| 23:40.46 | terrapen | err the info |
| 23:40.52 | greg_work | sip show peers shows it using the external ip of my NAT router |
| 23:40.56 | terrapen | imagine how many they have sold now |
| 23:41.24 | shmaltz | bkw_, is there a way to valetpark and not annouce the parking spot? |
| 23:42.00 | yashax | I am working getting MWI to work on Polycom. Reading the how-to and trying get clarification on "You may have to add @context to the mailbox entry. This seems to fix things for many users." Any pointers? |
| 23:42.21 | terrapen | mine worked using the supplied configs |
| 23:42.23 | snewpy | yashax: ignore that piece of advice :) |
| 23:42.41 | terrapen | and i used vmid@context |
| 23:43.11 | yashax | hmm...ok... I went through config and no luck. I know that I AM doing something wring, but...??? |
| 23:43.34 | terrapen | it seemed pretty straightforward to me, man |
| 23:43.45 | yashax | most likely it is something pretty stupid.... |
| 23:43.56 | yashax | Yeah, it is... but... still luck |
| 23:44.08 | greg_work | i tried connecting my fax to an SPA-2000.. somewhat worked, but lots of problems with the fax (some lines came out messed up, failed altogether receiving 1 in 4 times, failed to send at all). |
| 23:44.08 | yashax | Did this: ipdmid.cfg: |
| 23:44.08 | yashax | up.oneTouchVoiceMail="1" |
| 23:44.08 | yashax | phone1.cfg: |
| 23:44.08 | yashax | <msg msg.bypassInstantMessage="1"> |
| 23:44.09 | yashax | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.09 | yashax | </msg> |
| 23:44.41 | greg_work | does anyone have faxing setup using an fxs (and fxo) on a TDM400p or whatever, and does it work better? |
| 23:44.41 | denon | greg_work: fax over sip is always going to be hit and miss without T.38 |
| 23:44.48 | snewpy | yashax: that should do it without any further config |
| 23:44.48 | yashax | stupid question: Is ext number same as voicemail ext? |
| 23:44.54 | ariel_ | greg_work, it works on my system. |
| 23:44.59 | terrapen | yashax, not necessarily |
| 23:45.03 | yashax | hmm... |
| 23:45.04 | denon | greg_work: you're using ulaw? |
| 23:45.07 | terrapen | you have to set it up in voicemail.conf |
| 23:45.07 | greg_work | well, is it worth getting an fxs card? |
| 23:45.09 | greg_work | denon: yes |
| 23:45.09 | snewpy | yashax: assuming you have mailbox=something in sip.conf, and a correctly configured voicemail.conf |
| 23:45.09 | yashax | how can I tell? |
| 23:45.19 | terrapen | and i chose to use identical numbers for clarity's sake |
| 23:45.21 | ariel_ | yashax, no it can be different it's up to you. |
| 23:45.31 | greg_work | I wouldn't mind being able to use that line, but if it has to be 100% fax-only, then .. whatever.. |
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| 23:45.47 | greg_work | ariel_: do you have any problems at all? |
| 23:46.00 | h3x | can somebody recommend a good screen pop program for windoze |
| 23:46.01 | ariel_ | no it works just fine. |
| 23:46.03 | h3x | well hell |
| 23:46.12 | h3x | do any of the voip softphones have url push in iax2 yet |
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| 23:46.18 | greg_work | i'm curious because i never see that mentioned as a solution to SIP issues (SIP and IP not being involved would lead me to believe it would be fine) |
| 23:46.22 | ariel_ | My sipura 2100 is set for ulaw on line 2 and has the fax enabled on it. |
| 23:46.39 | greg_work | ariel_: oh, you mean you use it on a spa-2100 |
| 23:46.40 | yashax | I used Asterisk@home.. Everything works... but SIP.CONF does not have that info, but it is rather in SIP_ADDITIONAL.CONF... So I don't know what it used for VM ext.. looking at voicemail.conf |
| 23:46.45 | syslod | h3x: The best thing I've found is use manager proxy and write a small C# task app. |
| 23:46.58 | ariel_ | greg_work, but there on the same network. I get my faxes via my pots line and asterisk detects it sends it to my siprua |
| 23:47.08 | greg_work | thats what I was trying to do |
| 23:47.12 | shmaltz | bkw_, I think I have a but for the valetparking app |
| 23:47.15 | h3x | hmm |
| 23:47.19 | yashax | Yeah, it is same as my ext..... |
| 23:47.36 | h3x | syslod: I would but this is a very simple application |
| 23:47.37 | terrapen | yashax, read the wiki on voicemail.conf |
| 23:47.39 | greg_work | ariel_: like i said though, ocasionally some lines would be a bit messed up. and i couldn't get it to send at all |
| 23:47.46 | terrapen | yashax, this stuff is really easy |
| 23:47.52 | shmaltz | when a calls b, and b blind xfers (using cisco blindxfer), the parked spot gets announced to the a |
| 23:47.54 | terrapen | i found it to be one of the easiest parts of setting up * |
| 23:47.59 | h3x | im gonan check the iax2 soft phones on the wiki |
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| 23:48.13 | yashax | Yeah... the only thing that I did not do from how-to was: "You may have to add @context to the mailbox entry. This seems to fix things for many users. " |
| 23:48.30 | greg_work | i'm tempted to buy a pci card with an fxs port, because i would think it would work with no problems (no SIP or IP involved) .. but i wanted to hear from someone else with that setup.. i've never heard of it being done before |
| 23:48.41 | ManxPwr | yashax, mailbox=mailboxnumber@contextinvoicemailconf |
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| 23:49.34 | ariel_ | greg_work, I have a TDM11b in my system the fxo is connected to the pots line and the fxs is connected to my hp fax. |
| 23:50.13 | ariel_ | HP fax don't work well with voip for some reason. But I also have my fax/modem on my laptop on the sipura 2100 port 2 and it gets it's faxes that way. |
| 23:50.41 | shmaltz | anthm, when a calls b, and b blind xfers (using cisco blindxfer), the parked spot gets announced to the a |
| 23:50.48 | greg_work | ariel_: how is voip involved? |
| 23:50.53 | h3x | bingo |
| 23:50.57 | h3x | - accept URLs during a call and open that page in the default browser when the call is answered; |
| 23:50.59 | h3x | diax phone does it now |
| 23:50.59 | h3x | heh |
| 23:51.00 | ariel_ | I am only able to send faxes via the voip to 2 providers I have so far. VPC goes through 80% of the time and race.com 95 % of the time. voipjet does not work |
| 23:51.13 | ariel_ | I send them via voip |
| 23:51.24 | ariel_ | and I also get them via my vpc number |
| 23:51.27 | yashax | So if my EXT is 100, it would be: mailbox=100@context (just like this)? Is that right? |
| 23:51.50 | ariel_ | yashax, if that is the way your want it setup yes. |
| 23:52.02 | yashax | or? |
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| 23:52.34 | ariel_ | yashax, you only need @context if it's something other then default. |
| 23:52.48 | greg_work | ariel_: oh ok. i probably wouldn't bother with that (at least not yet). i'm more just interested in using one of my 4 POTS lines as a dedicated incoming fax line, and any as an outgoing fax or voice line (as opposed to having 3 voice POTS and 1 fax-only POTS line) |
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| 23:53.01 | yashax | k.. trying... |
| 23:53.15 | ariel_ | greg_work, then your set get the tdm400b |
| 23:53.18 | greg_work | since * has no dialtone detection (though, someone did email me a week ago, i put up a bounty for it) |
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| 23:55.34 | buddah | anyone have any idea what this error means? |
| 23:55.35 | buddah | Feb 21 15:55:21 WARNING[17500]: codec_g729.c:196 g729tolin_framein: Invalid data (4 bytes at the end) |
| 23:55.41 | bkw_ | vad |
| 23:55.45 | bkw_ | you might have vad on |
| 23:56.11 | buddah | how do i check that? |
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| 23:57.23 | yashax | Yep, that was it. I was missing the VM extension numbers. THANK YOU GUYS!!! |
