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| 00:03.52 | Ippimp | any one how can you tell if libpri is loaded correctly |
| 00:04.27 | Moc | I got no PRI yet, can't help you |
| 00:12.15 | puzzled | Ippimp: they are libraries used by asterisk |
| 00:13.16 | bkw_ | Ippimp still getting the SABME? |
| 00:13.47 | flewid | anyone know if there's any way to get outbound call queuing working, with only one outside line to the pstn, would that have to be a combo of agi and .call files or is there a better way to do it? |
| 00:13.52 | flewid | i basically want the option that if i try and call out but someone is on the line already, asterisk will call me back to let me know they're off the line, and then dial the number that i originally dialed |
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| 00:21.55 | Ippimp | yes bkw_ but I thinking my libpri is'nt loaded correctly how can you check |
| 00:24.03 | Ippimp | puzzled: what librarie is for libpri |
| 00:28.48 | fearnor- | if you are getting sabme - device on other end is not PRI. |
| 00:28.53 | fearnor- | are you sure you don't have a chan-t1? |
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| 00:29.11 | fearnor- | err sorry - if you are *sending* sabme but not getting anything back |
| 00:29.15 | fearnor- | either it is a T1 |
| 00:29.20 | fearnor- | OR its a wrong ISDN protocol |
| 00:29.32 | fearnor- | try ni1 or ni2 or 5ess |
| 00:29.57 | fearnor- | if you are sending sabme - your libpri is running correctly. |
| 00:30.22 | Ippimp | Thanks I feel better about that |
| 00:31.59 | lattice | hey all, I've done some more research, and realised that SIPP != SIP. I have SIPP installed, but I'm not sure how to configure asterisk to answer calls from SIPP, nor am I sure how to configure SIPP to correctly place the calls..? |
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| 00:32.46 | puzzled | excellent, anthm's native MoH patch works on my 1.0 install |
| 00:33.51 | cypromis | that is the rock'n roll patch |
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| 00:35.46 | IOscanner | I have a question? I got a new t100p it shows up as a E100P |
| 00:35.59 | puzzled | cypromis: I need to find a dir with more lively music than the one with that soothing stuff that comes with * :) |
| 00:36.10 | IOscanner | anyone know if the t100p card is the same as the e100p just with a different firmware? |
| 00:36.33 | puzzled | IOscanner: iirc if you have that newest one, it can be configured either as aT1 or E1 |
| 00:36.47 | IOscanner | I think they packaged the e100p as a t100p. Anyone know if I can flash it to be t100P |
| 00:36.55 | cypromis | :) |
| 00:37.02 | IOscanner | any do I need to set a jumper or something? |
| 00:37.18 | IOscanner | dmesg says it is an E100P |
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| 00:37.50 | puzzled | IOscanner: afaik the old ones are fixed |
| 00:38.45 | IOscanner | afaik? I just got this card the other day? |
| 00:39.05 | IOscanner | it should be the latest rev |
| 00:39.38 | IOscanner | I bought one about 2-3 months ago and it works and dmesg saw it was a t100p |
| 00:40.00 | puzzled | IOscanner: why don't you just call/email digium support? |
| 00:40.37 | IOscanner | I wanted to find out if this is a problem or not. I haven't seen this problem before. I would like to get the t-1 up before tomorrow. |
| 00:45.03 | puzzled | IOscanner: there you go. ask kram |
| 00:45.04 | cypromis | an e100p for a t1 ? |
| 00:45.50 | tzanger | puzzled: damn man just overclock the shit |
| 00:45.56 | puzzled | lol |
| 00:46.05 | Marlow | overclocked T1 .... :o) |
| 00:46.17 | tzanger | "Hmm it wants 130VDC, let's crank that up and throw a Peltier on it!" |
| 00:48.12 | puzzled | wonder how I can send a sms msg with the details of the just received voicemail to my gsm |
| 00:50.40 | croaker | does your gsm have an e-mail to SMS gateway? |
| 00:50.46 | puzzled | yup |
| 00:51.31 | Ippimp | No D channel avalible check this debug http://pastebin.ca/1704 |
| 00:51.37 | croaker | then have asterisk e-mail to you SMS gateway the info you want |
| 00:51.53 | bkw_ | Ippimp you still getting the SABME's? |
| 00:51.55 | bkw_ | and thats it? |
| 00:52.14 | bkw_ | Ippimp that is normal |
| 00:52.25 | puzzled | croaker: thanks. will give it a try |
| 00:52.56 | file | come on dudes, let's overclock our phones! |
| 00:53.03 | file | it's the newest craze! |
| 00:53.56 | IOscanner | kram: I have a question? I got a new t100p it shows up as a E100P in dmesg. |
| 00:58.11 | tzanger | haha |
| 00:58.21 | tzanger | my bro is getting my 5yo daughter a "big squishy care bears monkey" |
| 01:01.39 | Ippimp | when using zttool is the sync source suppose to be the deguim wildcard t100p |
| 01:01.52 | tzanger | Ippimp: only if you have no other choice (IMO) |
| 01:02.05 | tzanger | on each T1 span one side needs to supply clock and hte other needs to sync to it |
| 01:02.37 | tzanger | if your other side can't supply clock then let the digium card do it by putting the "clocking" part of the span config to "0" which means "do not try to sync to the equipment on the other side of this span" |
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| 01:03.17 | Ippimp | Well the pri is suppose to supply the clocking and I changed that |
| 01:03.27 | tzanger | ? |
| 01:03.31 | tzanger | you have a PRI from the telco? |
| 01:03.37 | Ippimp | Yes |
| 01:03.52 | tzanger | then set your span line to '1' to use the other side (i.e. the telco) as the primary clock source |
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| 01:04.36 | syslod | If you telco supplies the PRI I doubt you can change the clocking. |
| 01:04.49 | syslod | You'll have to use there clock. |
| 01:04.55 | tzanger | exactly |
| 01:04.56 | Ippimp | Right |
| 01:05.07 | tzanger | and besides their clock will be much better than the T100P's internal clock source |
| 01:05.22 | puzzled | anyone know how I can get an external shell script to pick up voicemail vars like ${VM_CALLERID}? |
| 01:05.24 | syslod | Sometimes. If it copper. |
| 01:06.00 | Kumbang | guys, what is the different between NPI and TON |
| 01:06.24 | Ippimp | So if I do a reload then I should get external sync in zttool |
| 01:07.03 | tzanger | ? |
| 01:07.19 | tzanger | yeah I heard coppice say that sometimes sync could not b=e changed short of a full reboot |
| 01:07.59 | Ippimp | I think your right |
| 01:15.45 | Kumbang | guys, i 've checked the option for NPI pridialplan are unknown, local, private, national, international and no for isdn E.164? what option should i use for PRI ISDN? |
| 01:17.00 | bkw_ | Ippimp are you still only geting the SAMBE's when doing a pri debug? |
| 01:17.04 | bkw_ | you hav eyet to answer me |
| 01:17.47 | syslod | Kumbang: What dialing you using? National 2? |
| 01:18.02 | syslod | Kumbang: Which ISDN protocol? |
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| 01:18.34 | bkw_ | Ippimp must have me on ignore |
| 01:19.03 | file | 9 to the 9 to the 6 |
| 01:19.14 | Silik0n | a bit off topic, but anyone know a good/cheap LTO-2 drive? |
| 01:19.29 | puzzled | file: not the super secret conf call again! |
| 01:19.30 | Kumbang | i have connection through E1 ISDN to 5ess switch |
| 01:20.32 | syslod | Kumbang: Hmm can't help you there. In USA it usally national to the telco. It sets what a number is. You could always use none and use a terminator. I belive its # in * during dialing. |
| 01:21.36 | syslod | The 5ess switch should have some standard for E1 but I have only US docs. Do you know what dialing plan is setup in the 5ess switch? |
| 01:22.06 | cypromis | e1 = euroisdn |
| 01:22.22 | Ippimp | I hear you bkw_ |
| 01:22.33 | puzzled | Silik0n: supposedly plasmon has some nice products and cheaper than the market leaders. dont know them though |
| 01:22.39 | bkw_ | Ippimp SABME? |
| 01:22.47 | puzzled | lol |
| 01:22.48 | bkw_ | is that all you get on a pri debug? |
| 01:24.06 | puzzled | cypromis: if you are bored, please tell me how I can get voicemail vars like ${VM_CALLERID} echoed in my email2sms script |
| 01:24.14 | Ippimp | well I noticed that the sync was on the card it self so I change it and did a reboot. And yes thats all I get on my debug |
| 01:24.20 | syslod | Anyone used * to do PRI switching / concentration? |
| 01:25.03 | fearnor | yoe |
| 01:25.06 | cypromis | puzzled: noidea |
| 01:25.09 | fearnor | syslog: sure, why not. |
| 01:25.15 | cypromis | yo are using the externnotify stuff ? |
| 01:25.19 | puzzled | cypromis: ok :( |
| 01:25.21 | puzzled | yes |
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| 01:25.35 | syslod | fearnor: Are you doing it now? |
| 01:25.45 | fearnor | syslog: yes |
| 01:25.47 | puzzled | cypromis: simple shell script: mail -s "voicemail vars" email@domain |
| 01:25.54 | fearnor | although my TNT does a better job than * |
| 01:26.03 | puzzled | cypromis: voicemail vars do not show up |
| 01:26.08 | syslod | fearnor: Looks like a powerful replacement for all those Adtran Atlas units. |
| 01:26.14 | puzzled | fearnor: I was just going to say that |
| 01:26.30 | syslod | TNT? |
| 01:26.46 | fearnor | max TNT. |
| 01:26.48 | puzzled | MaxTNT are cheap on eBay can handle a lot of PRI's |
| 01:26.52 | fearnor | for cheap sadomasochists. |
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| 01:26.57 | puzzled | hehe |
| 01:27.03 | tzanger | MaxTNTs work well for modems... never tried them for SIP |
| 01:27.08 | tzanger | need TAOS11 IIRC |
| 01:27.10 | puzzled | fearnor: I used to work for Ascend so watch out :) |
| 01:27.11 | fearnor | tz: i have one here doing sip. |
| 01:27.23 | tzanger | fearnor: can you send me your config? |
| 01:27.29 | fearnor | 96-dsp, ether3, taos11, all the jazz. |
| 01:27.57 | fearnor | it works. but it is a ANNOYING DEVICE |
| 01:28.11 | fearnor | troubleshooting a TNT is hell on earth |
| 01:28.17 | tzanger | fearnor: yes I agree :-) |
| 01:28.36 | fearnor | puzzled: don't tell me you were the smart guy who decided to do RIGHTMOST PREFIX match |
| 01:29.19 | puzzled | fearnor: nope, I did no coding on TAOS whatsoever |
| 01:29.45 | fearnor | ASS END |
| 01:29.53 | syslod | We got rid of all our lucent equipment last year. I didn't like any of it. |
| 01:30.20 | fearnor | i don't like it either. |
| 01:30.24 | fearnor | but its cheap and it works. |
| 01:30.34 | fearnor | i'd rather use something else if i had money. |
| 01:30.34 | puzzled | the ascend stuff was cool: CBX500 & GX550 and the MaxTNT and last but not least the ICD |
| 01:30.38 | fearnor | then again, i'd rather have junipers |
| 01:30.42 | fearnor | oh well ;) |
| 01:31.32 | puzzled | fearnor: lucent layed off most ascend people so I would rather invest in equipment that is actively supported and not by "Jack" fm islamabad who was never involved in the devel of the equipment |
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| 01:35.23 | tzanger | it's gotta be a waste to use an entire MaxTNT shelf just to power the damn shelf controller and quad ethernet cards -- the modem cards aren't necessary are they? |
| 01:35.33 | fearnor | you need dsp cards. |
| 01:35.39 | tzanger | ohh |
| 01:35.43 | fearnor | and quad-eth won't work for voip. |
| 01:35.48 | tzanger | no? |
| 01:35.48 | fearnor | basically, get a new tnt. :) |
| 01:35.50 | tzanger | how come? |
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| 01:35.56 | fearnor | no. you need something called 'ether3' for voip. |
| 01:36.05 | tzanger | so |
| 01:36.11 | fearnor | single-port high-performance. |
| 01:36.21 | fearnor | but hey, you can reuse the chassis! ;) |
| 01:36.24 | tzanger | you're saying I can't have a MaxTNT that terminates a DS3 for dialup during the night and VOIP outgoing during the day?! |
| 01:36.47 | fearnor | you *CAN* but you need a ether3 card if you want to do voip. |
| 01:37.00 | tzanger | quad eth has a nice 100btx-fd port... is that not high performance enough? |
| 01:37.05 | fearnor | i.e. throw away your old ethernet card. |
| 01:37.08 | fearnor | it isn't |
| 01:38.01 | fearnor | the setup (chassis+shelf controller+ether3+48dsp) goes on ebay for 2000-2500$ |
| 01:38.07 | tzanger | yeah |
| 01:38.15 | puzzled | fearnor: what was IPDC used for again? |
| 01:38.16 | tzanger | now you day DSP cards -- that's v90/v92 modem cards, right? |
| 01:38.20 | tzanger | or are they completely different |
| 01:38.20 | fearnor | 96dsp for few hundred more |
| 01:38.28 | fearnor | tz: no, dsp cards are entirely different. |
| 01:38.41 | tzanger | fearnor: you're kidding me |
| 01:38.41 | fearnor | you can do modem on the dsp cards, but you can't do voip on the old modem cards. |
| 01:38.49 | tzanger | "old" modem cards meaning the v90 ones? |
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| 01:38.51 | fearnor | yes |
| 01:38.52 | tzanger | or are the v92 ones shit too |
| 01:38.53 | puzzled | tzanger: yes |
| 01:38.58 | fearnor | v92 are also shit. |
| 01:39.02 | tzanger | unbelievable |
| 01:39.08 | tzanger | no wonder the hardware's been dumped by Lucent |
| 01:39.12 | fearnor | in other words, you need VOIP HARDWARE TO DO VOIP. sur-fucking-prize. |
| 01:39.19 | puzzled | hehe |
| 01:39.24 | tzanger | fearnor: DSP cards should be DSP cards |
| 01:39.28 | tzanger | i.e. update the firmeware -- boom v92 |
| 01:39.29 | fearnor | puzzled: IPDC is SS7 over IP. sorta. |
| 01:39.32 | tzanger | update the firmware -- boom voip |
| 01:39.51 | fearnor | tzanger: there never were DSP cards for TNT. old cards were "MODEM" cards, not DSP cards. |
| 01:40.10 | tzanger | fearnor: unreal |
| 01:40.15 | tzanger | truly, truly unreal |
| 01:40.36 | puzzled | tzanger: tell that to UUNet who had to upgrade 1000's of chassis with new cards |
| 01:40.36 | tzanger | fuck eeven with the old AS5248 I could upgrade modem firmware and go from 33k6 to K56Flex to V90 |
| 01:41.06 | tzanger | now mind you they probably could have done V92 and VOIP if the microcom cards weren't EOL'd :-) |
| 01:41.11 | tzanger | hell the entire chassis' EOL'd |
| 01:41.25 | fearnor | tz: sure you can go with old ascend modem cards go from v34 to v90 ;) |
| 01:41.32 | fearnor | you just can't go to voip. ;) |
| 01:41.41 | tzanger | ok |
| 01:41.47 | tzanger | I have a ton of V92 cards though that claim to be DSP cards |
| 01:41.51 | tzanger | are they the same thing? |
| 01:41.56 | tzanger | v9*2* not V90 |
| 01:41.59 | fearnor | well |
| 01:42.06 | tzanger | apx8-sl-96dsp |
| 01:42.08 | fearnor | OH |
| 01:42.11 | fearnor | that's the DSP card. |
| 01:42.14 | puzzled | different stuff |
| 01:42.15 | fearnor | that's a proper voip card. |
| 01:42.22 | fearnor | that's what i have - it works fine. |
| 01:42.22 | tzanger | ok |
| 01:42.25 | puzzled | all apx cards are dsp cards aren't they? |
| 01:42.38 | fearnor | puzzled: there's only one APX card, apx8-sl-96dsp |
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| 01:42.57 | fearnor | well, there are 288 port variaton of that ;) |
| 01:42.58 | puzzled | heh, not when in beta. I tested a lot of cards with UUNet |
| 01:43.07 | puzzled | yup, that one amongst other ones |
| 01:43.12 | fearnor | you can use 288 card as 480 port card if you only use g711 |
| 01:43.20 | fearnor | its pimp ;) |
| 01:43.59 | fearnor | one APX can terminate something like 8 DS3s full of voice. |
| 01:44.14 | puzzled | yeah, the numbers where staggering |
| 01:45.37 | Ippimp | did someone say Pimp |
| 01:46.05 | puzzled | fearnor: but was it ever actually tried (the 8x DS3)? :) |
| 01:46.11 | fearnor | dunno. |
| 01:46.33 | fearnor | i peak at 20 concurrent calls now on my tnt. :) |
| 01:46.34 | puzzled | I only heard marketing speak about it. never of field trials that actually delivered on that promise |
| 01:46.35 | fearnor | heh |
| 01:46.58 | puzzled | even 2 DS3s is still a boatload of channels |
| 01:47.12 | paulc | 1288 :) |
| 01:47.38 | puzzled | I'm sure it will handle that. Given the golden Lucent Marketing rule: slash everything they say at least in half (at the time) |
| 01:55.26 | puzzled | somebody should DDoS those scam bastards at fedora-redhat.com |
| 01:56.11 | mlh407 | What does the patch do? |
| 01:56.29 | puzzled | no idea haven't looked at it. prolly a trojan of some sorts |
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| 01:56.59 | mlh407 | It would be interseting to know what it does, can someone look at it ? Who knows how to code? |
| 01:57.42 | jtodd | <grumble> OK, I can't find what I'm looking for. There was a patch within the last 6 months that allowed specific hangup codes to be given to a PRI (others?) for disconnect cause. Any pointers? |
| 01:58.40 | puzzled | mlh407: read the comments on /. |
| 01:58.56 | puzzled | jtodd: remember something vaguely |
| 01:59.16 | jtodd | Yeah, me too. Digging through the CVS history is fruitless; too many keyword matches. |
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| 02:00.32 | WilliamK | puzzled, it'll probably be down very shortly.... sent some emails to the proper people. |
| 02:00.43 | puzzled | excellent |
| 02:00.54 | puzzled | jtodd: how about searching for q931.c & cvs |
| 02:01.19 | jtodd | I seem to recall it was a hack to "hangup", but I don't find much with that search thread. |
| 02:01.46 | jtodd | I think q931 wasn't modified. |
| 02:03.20 | jtodd | nothing obvious in q931.c |
| 02:03.44 | puzzled | jtodd: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-July/016777.html |
| 02:04.36 | jtodd | Ah, yes, I really like that patch, but it's the wrong direction. :-) I'm looking to set the code on the disconnect. |
| 02:05.14 | jtodd | In other words, I'd like to refuse a call (before answering it) with "INCOMING_CALL_BARRED" messages, if that's what I think should be sent. |
| 02:05.37 | jtodd | Or "NUMBER_CHANGED" or "SWITCH_CONGESTION" or whatever. |
| 02:05.56 | puzzled | interesting, sort of ss7 functionality |
| 02:06.04 | jtodd | I _swear_ I saw something like this hit CVS, but I just need to figure out where/when... |
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| 02:13.32 | tzanger | jtodd: I am going to be working on q931.c shortly (I'm a total q931 newb so don't get your hopes up) -- my goal is to reverse engineer enough of Norstar's MCDN protocol to be able to put messages on the digital phonesets and light MWI |
| 02:13.49 | jtodd | That would be pretty cool. |
| 02:13.52 | fearnor | is mcdn based on q931? |
| 02:13.59 | tzanger | fearnor: yes |
| 02:14.17 | tzanger | fearnor: in fact, I can get my MICS to do Q.SIG if I am willing ot tell it I'm not in North America |
| 02:14.25 | tzanger | but I am afraid all the call progress tones will be screwed up :-) |
| 02:14.35 | tzanger | er not based on q.931 but rather q.sig which IIRC is based on q.931 |
| 02:14.43 | jtodd | tzanger: it's only tangentally related, but have you seen http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-June/000884.html |
| 02:15.37 | tzanger | yeah I was looking at that (not from 2003, it must have been revisited a couple months back) |
| 02:15.41 | fearnor | that's pretty neat - but what is the layer1 protocol? |
| 02:15.42 | fearnor | is it a BRI? |
| 02:15.49 | tzanger | fearnor: PRI |
| 02:16.00 | fearnor | to each phone??! |
| 02:16.05 | fearnor | or i'm confuzzled |
| 02:16.06 | puzzled | jtodd: bkw already wrote app_serial |
| 02:16.21 | tzanger | you spend $860 on a DTI (T1 port) for the MICS, then antoher $1500 for the PRI and MCDN enabler codes... pisses me off |
| 02:16.22 | jtodd | yeah, but does app_serial talk to MWI stuff? |
| 02:16.27 | tzanger | fearnor: oh sorry I don't know that |
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| 02:16.41 | tzanger | fearnor: it's whatever 2-wire proprietary bullshit they run between the MICS and hte phones themselves |
| 02:16.41 | puzzled | jtodd: don't think so |
| 02:17.03 | fearnor | tzanger: well, to do proper signaling, you'll have to figure out the wire protocol first, eh ;) |
| 02:17.09 | tzanger | fearnor: no |
| 02:17.12 | puzzled | weren't there some guys who had almost finished writing SMDI? |
| 02:17.41 | tzanger | fearnor: I am talking about replacing the trunk interfaces on a MICS with a PRI running MCDN -- Norstar allows multiple MICS to share (centrallize) voicemail if they use the MCDN protocol on their trunk lines |
| 02:17.42 | fearnor | or you are planning to interface to the norstar pbx not phones directly? |
| 02:17.47 | tzanger | that's where I'm interfacing this |
| 02:17.48 | fearnor | oh |
| 02:17.51 | fearnor | geh. :) |
| 02:18.01 | jtodd | puzzled: I seem to remember hearing something about it. But then... there are lots of people "almost" finished with all sorts of really neat Asterisk stuff... "almost." |
| 02:18.08 | puzzled | hehe |
| 02:18.10 | fearnor | i want some frigging phones with blinkenlighten and lcden that do not cost fortunen |
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| 02:18.15 | tzanger | use the existing MICS cabinet with a T1 trunk card and MCDN+PRI interfaces and let * handle everything else -- the MICS becomes nothing mroe than a digitla phone driver |
| 02:18.23 | tzanger | fearnor: hahaha |
| 02:18.37 | Odie_flocon | man getting info from FWD is worse then pulling teeth. |
| 02:18.41 | fearnor | using MICS kinda defeats price-purpose. |
| 02:19.05 | fearnor | anyway |
| 02:19.10 | fearnor | anyone else here does ADSI? |
| 02:19.13 | jtodd | tzanger: A really expensive, very custom channel bank. |
| 02:19.13 | tzanger | fearnor: it's for existing systems |
| 02:19.21 | telme | so is configuring asterisk to hook up directly to a PRI essentiallly the same thing as hooking up to a 24 channel CB? I.e. the zap setting are the same? |
| 02:19.31 | Odie_flocon | no |
| 02:19.32 | fearnor | telme: sort of. :) |
| 02:19.35 | kilobit | is there any way i can get hangupcause from agi script? |
| 02:19.41 | fearnor | they are the same except you configure signaling diferently ;P |
| 02:19.50 | fearnor | so, eh, they are not same ;P |
| 02:19.51 | tzanger | telme: no, PRI != CAS T1 |
| 02:19.52 | tzanger | close but no |
| 02:20.04 | telme | i guess you'd have to b/c b channels are fxs & fxo |
| 02:20.14 | fearnor | no |
| 02:20.18 | fearnor | b-channels are *NOT* fxs/fxo. |
| 02:20.23 | fearnor | *NOT* NOT NOT |
| 02:20.30 | telme | ha, okay, sorry |
| 02:20.53 | telme | i guess that's just how i think of them b/c they can switch both ways |
| 02:22.32 | twisted | i guess they should be called bi-channels |
| 02:22.56 | fearnor | bi-channels and gay-channels? |
| 02:22.57 | fearnor | heh |
| 02:23.00 | tzanger | telme: it's trivial to hook up PRI or T1 to *... atl east in north america, I think that E1 is more difcicult but I've never done it |
| 02:23.05 | twisted | no |
| 02:23.17 | tzanger | my hookup to Bell Canada's PRI was insanely easy |
| 02:23.20 | tzanger | it Just Worked |
| 02:23.58 | tzanger | anyway it's my bedtime |
| 02:23.59 | tzanger | later all |
| 02:24.05 | Odie_flocon | hey |
| 02:24.06 | Odie_flocon | tz |
| 02:24.13 | Odie_flocon | where in Ont u from? |
| 02:24.19 | EnigmaPTK | zapel.conf; span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs bchan=1-23 dchan=24 |
| 02:24.31 | Odie_flocon | tzanger where in Ont. are you from? |
| 02:24.35 | telme | huh, that's it? |
| 02:24.48 | telme | EnigmaPTK -^^^^^ |
| 02:24.56 | EnigmaPTK | for zaptel.conf...yep. |
| 02:25.03 | Odie_flocon | unless the dchan is chan 1 instead of 24 |
| 02:25.04 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: Listowel - 40min from Kitchener/Waterloo |
| 02:25.05 | EnigmaPTK | assuming a lot, of course. |
| 02:25.13 | EnigmaPTK | that being one of the assumptions. |
| 02:25.15 | Odie_flocon | some telcos do that just to screw you up |
| 02:25.22 | Odie_flocon | I used to live in Brockville |
| 02:25.22 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: otherwise known as "bend over, Bell's got a large cock aimed at your ass" territory |
| 02:25.32 | EnigmaPTK | esf,b8zs being another assumption (your telco can tell you what to use) |
| 02:25.38 | Odie_flocon | all of ont is that way. |
| 02:25.58 | EnigmaPTK | 1,1,0 being another assumption (first span, use as timing source, short distance from the smartjack) |
| 02:26.04 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: not so-- the bigger communities will get PRIs from GT or Telus or AT&T... Listowel nobody will even quote you |
| 02:26.14 | tzanger | EnigmaPTK: yeah but these are all VERY safe assumptions |
| 02:26.21 | EnigmaPTK | agreed. |
| 02:26.22 | Odie_flocon | that's cuz u r a small town. |
| 02:26.28 | Odie_flocon | how much you pay for your pri line? |
| 02:26.34 | tzanger | EnigmaPTK: and from what I recall the CSU buildout is *not* used by the zaptel driver at thsi time |
| 02:26.53 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: well the Bs are no cheaper than regular POTS lines, and add $750/mo I think for the D |
| 02:27.02 | tzanger | or is it $500/mo for the D, I can't remember |
| 02:27.07 | EnigmaPTK | honestly not sure about that tzanger. I never worry much about it, and it's never affected my lines any. |
| 02:27.21 | tzanger | EnigmaPTK: true... and the smartjack is usually within 100' of the card anyway |
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| 02:28.00 | EnigmaPTK | thats usd |
| 02:28.13 | EnigmaPTK | actually...i think it s about 425 |
| 02:28.26 | Odie_flocon | that's like over 1K for a pri line... |
| 02:28.27 | Odie_flocon | dam |
| 02:28.43 | tzanger | nice |
| 02:28.48 | tzanger | I wish I had that kind of pricing |
| 02:29.04 | tzanger | I'm at like $53or $55/mo for a B and then add the D to that |
| 02:29.05 | EnigmaPTK | allegiance telcom (www.algx.com) they were offering that pricing nationwide just a while back. |
| 02:29.19 | jtodd | EnigmaPTK: You mean XO. :-) |
| 02:29.19 | Odie_flocon | hmmm. |
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| 02:29.22 | tzanger | EnigmaPTK: yeah... nationwide to the large communieis :-) |
| 02:29.23 | EnigmaPTK | yeah.. |
| 02:29.26 | Odie_flocon | do you use them for your business? |
| 02:29.31 | Odie_flocon | tz |
| 02:29.36 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: yes |
| 02:29.37 | EnigmaPTK | yes. I grabbed three PRI's from them when they ran that special. |
| 02:29.43 | fearnor | hugs and kisses baby |
| 02:29.50 | tzanger | and my home # was converted to abusiness line and "handed off" to the company I work for and is now a DID on the PRI :-) |
| 02:30.02 | fearnor | but i'm in their 60hudson colo ;) |
| 02:30.13 | EnigmaPTK | hehe... yeah, that helps... |
| 02:30.15 | EnigmaPTK | no local loop charge |
| 02:30.20 | fearnor | yep. |
| 02:30.33 | Odie_flocon | man tz you should become a CLEC... |
| 02:31.23 | EnigmaPTK | my only bitch with allegiance is that they give you 100DID numbers per DID, and then charge a FORTUNE for more over that. |
| 02:31.27 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: I haven't got $100k for the lawyers and paperwork |
| 02:31.43 | Odie_flocon | don't need lawyers. |
| 02:31.43 | fearnor | eh, its only 5-10k$ actually. |
| 02:31.44 | tzanger | EnigmaPTK: you need more than a hundred DIDs per PRI? |
| 02:31.48 | tzanger | fearnor: in Canada/ |
| 02:31.49 | tzanger | ? |
| 02:31.56 | fearnor | oh, i dunno about that ;) |
| 02:32.05 | jcollie | read his before your next flight: http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/tracks/gimli.html |
| 02:32.08 | tzanger | I'd love to investigate it more, it's a lot of hassle trying to find that info unless you know someone who's already a CLEC |
| 02:32.17 | Odie_flocon | BINGO |
| 02:32.27 | fearnor | shrug |
| 02:32.37 | fearnor | it isn't really complicated, if you are serious enough in US. |
| 02:32.42 | fearnor | i don't imagine its different in canada. |
| 02:32.53 | EnigmaPTK | it would be handy.. yes. I like to give every employee a direct dial number AND a private direct dial fax line. that only allows 50 employees per trunk, which is really low considering 23 channels available. |
| 02:33.06 | Odie_flocon | Bell doesn't like compteitors |
| 02:33.08 | fearnor | sounds wasteful. |
| 02:33.15 | fearnor | give the same number and do fax-detection. |
| 02:33.17 | fearnor | :) |
| 02:34.03 | tzanger | EnigmaPTK: true |
| 02:34.06 | Odie_flocon | tz if you want to know more just let me know |
| 02:34.07 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: amen to that |
| 02:34.14 | tzanger | Odie_flocon: I'd love to know more but I need to get to sleep |
| 02:34.32 | Moc | We got 550 extentions using 3 T1 |
| 02:34.39 | EnigmaPTK | i tried that... we had customers calling all friggin day saying "can I get so and so's fax number? I have his main number, but not his fax. we'd tell them it's the same number and they'd be all friggin confused....just wasn't worth the explanations after a while) |
| 02:34.47 | Moc | so 70 channels for 550 extentions |
| 02:36.07 | fearnor | word. |
| 02:36.13 | fearnor | well - get a better sales monkey. |
| 02:36.24 | fearnor | i think xo charges me somthing like 10$/mo for additional 100 dids? |
| 02:36.34 | EnigmaPTK | allegiance is 16 |
| 02:36.37 | EnigmaPTK | per 100 |
| 02:36.46 | EnigmaPTK | but maybe thats changed now that theyre XO |
| 02:36.54 | EnigmaPTK | I should call and see if they can cut the pricing a bit. |
| 02:37.24 | fearnor | my bitch with XO is that they want 4k$ to do intrado PS/ALI e911 setup |
| 02:37.24 | tzanger | haha |
| 02:37.26 | tzanger | "Starved of fuel, both Pratt & Whitney engines had flamed out. Pearson's response, recorded on the cockpit voice recorder was "Oh F___." " |
| 02:37.49 | EnigmaPTK | being a pilot, i can't think of a better response |
| 02:37.54 | fearnor | heh |
| 02:38.12 | fearnor | one of my friends said: flying is hours of boredom, punctuated by moments of sheer panic. |
| 02:38.25 | EnigmaPTK | hehe...i like that one. |
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| 02:40.09 | ahqiang | hi |
| 02:40.12 | ahqiang | hi |
| 02:40.20 | EnigmaPTK | hi |
| 02:40.41 | ahqiang | i got a burning question to ask |
| 02:41.00 | ahqiang | can asterisk do voice recog? or do call progress monitor? |
| 02:41.34 | EnigmaPTK | call progress can be done using a digitlal line like a PRI or a BRI |
| 02:41.37 | Moc | ahqiang, there is software for that |
| 02:41.45 | EnigmaPTK | but not (reliably anyway) with an analog line. |
| 02:41.47 | ahqiang | is it? |
| 02:41.55 | jcollie | fearnor: i've heard the same about the army |
| 02:41.57 | ahqiang | i got a prob |
| 02:42.04 | Moc | ahqiang, digital, of course.. |
| 02:42.13 | IOscanner | I have read some place that asterisk can do voice recog. I am not sure of the status of quallity. |
| 02:42.13 | Moc | ahqiang, you could try a VoIP provider like nufone and see |
| 02:42.23 | IOscanner | That is next on my list to play with. |
| 02:42.25 | ahqiang | i have a 3 way calling line with my SP |
| 02:42.39 | ahqiang | but cant recog the pickup of the line |
| 02:42.53 | ahqiang | tot can ask it recog the sound of the pickup |
| 02:42.59 | Moc | ish |
| 02:43.11 | Moc | ahqiang, all your phones should be behind your Asterisk |
| 02:43.21 | ahqiang | not mine |
| 02:43.34 | Moc | well that your problem |
| 02:43.35 | ahqiang | i have no phone behind * |
| 02:43.42 | ahqiang | haha lol |
| 02:43.50 | fearnor | jcollie: nah, army is "see the world. meet interesting people. kill them." |
| 02:43.58 | ahqiang | i need to deal with the our going phone lines |
| 02:44.08 | ahqiang | i been to the army |
| 02:44.09 | Wi_Fi | yikes |
| 02:44.16 | ahqiang | spent 2 years there |
| 02:44.27 | Wi_Fi | asterisk -c = Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe |
| 02:44.30 | Moc | me too.. then my account got suspended !!! |
| 02:44.40 | jcollie | fearnor: never had the pleasure |
| 02:46.25 | ahqiang | is pstn line analog or digital? |
| 02:46.36 | ahqiang | analog right? by digital u meant voip |
| 02:47.10 | EnigmaPTK | pstn is analog (assuming its a regular POTS phone line) |
| 02:47.19 | ahqiang | ISDN>? |
| 02:47.22 | EnigmaPTK | pstn can also be digital (as in a PRI or BRI) line |
| 02:47.25 | EnigmaPTK | ISDN is digital |
| 02:47.48 | ahqiang | i got prob picking up signal with the three way calling |
| 02:48.04 | ahqiang | anyone noe how the three way calling at the exchange office works? |
| 02:48.07 | EnigmaPTK | how are you getting the ISDN into asterisk? |
| 02:48.15 | EnigmaPTK | what card? |
| 02:48.24 | ahqiang | wildcard |
| 02:48.32 | EnigmaPTK | which one? X100P |
| 02:48.32 | EnigmaPTK | ? |
| 02:48.33 | ahqiang | the isdn is with my campus |
| 02:48.46 | ahqiang | so they provide me a interenal line |
| 02:49.02 | ahqiang | which i need to dial a 9 to dial out |
| 02:49.06 | EnigmaPTK | WHICH CARD? |
| 02:49.12 | ahqiang | so i have a asterisk behind a pbx |
| 02:49.28 | ahqiang | the four port dgium wildcard with 2 port fxo |
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| 02:50.04 | EnigmaPTK | ok...so you are actually using an analog interface to asterisk. the line may very well be an isdn at some point, but what you have connected to asterisk is analog, so there is no callprogress available. |
| 02:50.27 | ahqiang | hmmm..... |
| 02:50.31 | ahqiang | i agree with u |
| 02:50.36 | ahqiang | but not my boss |
| 02:50.40 | ahqiang | that is the problem |
| 02:51.29 | EnigmaPTK | using an analog connection, it is my oppinion (to be taken with a grain of salt, of course) that you will not be able to reliably detect call progress. period. |
| 02:51.50 | ahqiang | agreed |
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| 02:52.04 | EnigmaPTK | if callprogress is a necessity, then you will HAVE to find a way to get a digital connection to the PSTN or the PBX (ISDN PRI or ISDN BRI or somesort of VOIP) |
| 02:52.23 | ahqiang | that y i am having prob with the 3 way calling feature of the telco |
| 02:52.39 | EnigmaPTK | correct - and without a digital line there is no good solution. |
| 02:52.49 | EnigmaPTK | that i'm aware of anyway. |
| 02:52.59 | ahqiang | enigma |
| 02:53.08 | ahqiang | u noe how the three way calling at the exchange office works? |
| 02:53.28 | EnigmaPTK | i have a pretty good understanding of it. |
| 02:53.37 | ahqiang | can i ask u something? |
| 02:53.40 | ahqiang | this is impt |
| 02:54.02 | EnigmaPTK | yes/ |
| 02:54.04 | EnigmaPTK | yes? |
| 02:54.34 | ahqiang | current three way calling plan with my telco = I dial first number , flash dial second number , flash then the 3 of us can talk |
| 02:54.53 | ahqiang | that how most three way calling plans works in the world i guess |
| 02:55.10 | EnigmaPTK | correct - which will never be able to reliably work with an analog line and asterisk. |
| 02:55.27 | ahqiang | U TELL THAT TO MY BOSS |
| 02:55.28 | EnigmaPTK | again - IN MY OPPINION. Someone else may have a different oppinion and a better answer for you. |
| 02:55.30 | ahqiang | ok |
| 02:55.49 | ahqiang | if you are a telco exchange how will you handle this call |
| 02:56.26 | ahqiang | u pick up my number , connect to second number. call three number and put us all three in a meeting room? |
| 02:56.38 | ahqiang | *call third number |
| 02:58.35 | ahqiang | enigma u there? |
| 02:59.28 | ariel_ | Hello all |
| 02:59.46 | telme | hello ariel_ |
| 03:00.25 | ariel_ | hello telme |
| 03:00.45 | file | hail ariel_ |
| 03:01.12 | ahqiang | ENigma , u still online? |
| 03:01.17 | telme | areil, where is a good place to CoLo down there? |
| 03:01.47 | fearnor | where is there? |
| 03:01.54 | telme | ya know |
| 03:02.00 | telme | down ...there |
| 03:02.05 | telme | FL :) |
| 03:02.07 | fearnor | in the dirty souf? |
| 03:02.15 | telme | ha, kinda |
| 03:02.17 | fearnor | tel: NOTA/terramark. |
| 03:02.31 | *** join/#asterisk libpcp (libpcp@210.16.20.5) |
| 03:02.35 | telme | fearnor: where are you located? |
| 03:02.35 | fearnor | teh nap of teh americas |
| 03:02.43 | fearnor | telme: i'm in nyc. |
| 03:02.45 | ariel_ | telme, I have a friend that has a colo and can if you want I can put you in touch with him. |
| 03:02.52 | fearnor | but i've got homies in every lata! |
| 03:03.05 | telme | ;O |
| 03:03.21 | ahqiang | hi i need a opioion |
| 03:03.29 | ahqiang | opinion |
| 03:03.35 | telme | ariel_ what does your friend charge? |
| 03:03.36 | fearnor | telme: talk to STS TELECOM people if you need anything telco-related and have money. :P |
| 03:03.39 | yxa | anyone has an intel ambients/md3200 modems for sale or know where I can get them cheap? |
| 03:03.46 | ahqiang | anyone familar with telco exchange? |
| 03:03.49 | fearnor | yxa: it is called X100P and it costs 100$. |
| 03:03.50 | jcollie | heh i'll colo some boxes in my basement for you :) |
| 03:03.52 | telme | feanor: STS? |
| 03:04.05 | telme | sounds expensive... |
| 03:04.14 | fearnor | telme: www.ststelecom.com |
| 03:04.21 | fearnor | they are good people. |
| 03:04.29 | telme | jcollie: okay, can i pay with pbj's |
| 03:04.46 | ariel_ | telme, I gave you my email I will email you his info later on. |
| 03:05.05 | fearnor | telcoexchange sounds like one of those brokers. |
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| 03:05.48 | ahqiang | no |
| 03:05.56 | ahqiang | i mean the exchange office |
| 03:06.02 | fearnor | central office? |
| 03:06.08 | ahqiang | ya |
| 03:06.14 | fearnor | and what do you need to know? |
| 03:06.16 | ahqiang | that is onw way u put it |
| 03:06.25 | ahqiang | how three way calling works |
| 03:06.34 | fearnor | huh? |
| 03:06.43 | fearnor | you take one call. you take another call. you mix them together. |
| 03:06.51 | fearnor | presto. |
| 03:06.51 | ahqiang | ya |
| 03:06.58 | ahqiang | wait i org something for u |
| 03:07.15 | ahqiang | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.25 | ahqiang | that how most three way calling plans works in the world i guess |
| 03:07.33 | ahqiang | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.42 | fearnor | with a frigging software. |
| 03:07.46 | ahqiang | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.47 | fearnor | just like asterisk would handle it. |
| 03:07.56 | ahqiang | ya |
| 03:08.05 | ahqiang | but i need to understand how the central works |
| 03:08.19 | fearnor | well, then you gotta use your head. |
| 03:08.49 | ahqiang | my true question is , actually phyiscally , only number1 is connected to number 2 , and number 3 is connected via a meetme |
| 03:08.58 | fearnor | neither. |
| 03:08.59 | ahqiang | dumb question? ahahhahaha |
| 03:09.04 | fearnor | very dumb. :P) |
| 03:09.10 | ahqiang | so all are in a meet me |
| 03:09.16 | ahqiang | *meetme |
| 03:09.22 | fearnor | "meet me" is wrong thinking. |
| 03:09.31 | ahqiang | so i am number 1 |
| 03:09.32 | fearnor | you are mixed together on a TDM bus. |
| 03:09.39 | fearnor | it doesn't matter, there are no numbers. |
| 03:10.08 | ahqiang | i can detect number2 caller pickup signal but cannot detect number3 caller pick up signal |
| 03:10.22 | fearnor | caller pickup signal? |
| 03:10.43 | ahqiang | the sound u hear when u transit from rings to answer |
| 03:10.52 | fearnor | you are making no sense. |
| 03:10.53 | ahqiang | the signal to tell u that the call is answered |
| 03:10.55 | fearnor | what do you want to do. |
| 03:11.05 | ahqiang | what the real name? |
| 03:11.08 | ahqiang | ok |
| 03:11.21 | ahqiang | i need * to to the three way calling auto for me |
| 03:11.34 | fearnor | auto? |
| 03:11.35 | ahqiang | outgoing pstn calls with a three way plan with the telco |
| 03:11.38 | fearnor | * supports 3-way calling. |
| 03:11.41 | ahqiang | ya |
| 03:11.45 | fearnor | ah: don't do that. |
| 03:11.46 | Wi_Fi | hey guys |
| 03:11.54 | fearnor | its a really stupid idea. |
| 03:11.56 | ahqiang | * supports 3 call calling internal calls only |
| 03:12.08 | ahqiang | tell me more fearor |
| 03:12.13 | Wi_Fi | im gettin a sound card error on * start and i dont have a sound card |
| 03:12.23 | fearnor | what can i tell you more? it is a dumb idea. |
| 03:12.33 | ahqiang | WI_FI: try not to do dial |
| 03:12.45 | fearnor | you can screw around with flashing FXO interface but it won't work reliably. |
| 03:12.47 | ahqiang | fearnor: U TELL THAT TO MY BOSS |
| 03:13.01 | ahqiang | ya i totally agree |
| 03:13.03 | fearnor | ahqia: tell him to get a frigging second real phone line ;P |
| 03:13.09 | Wi_Fi | can dial if asterisk wont start |
| 03:13.21 | fearnor | wifi: noload=whatevermodulegivesyouproblems. |
| 03:14.04 | ahqiang | fearnor: auto in the sense i need to detect when the second caller and the third caller picks up the call |
| 03:14.12 | *** join/#asterisk Wi_Fi (~OUT@c-24-127-12-85.we.client2.attbi.com) |
| 03:14.27 | Wi_Fi | ? |
| 03:14.31 | ahqiang | i can detect the second caller pickup , but not the third caller |
| 03:14.36 | fearnor | ah: first of all, tone progress detection doesn't work reliably when you even don't bother with second caller |
| 03:14.41 | fearnor | er dont bother with third. |
| 03:15.09 | ahqiang | it is in progress of development for asterisk right? |
| 03:15.16 | fearnor | eh no. |
| 03:15.20 | fearnor | i doubt it anyway. |
| 03:15.23 | *** part/#asterisk jcollie (~jcollie@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) |
| 03:15.26 | fearnor | cuz it sounds like a dumb idea in a first place. |
| 03:15.47 | ahqiang | hope my boss is here |
| 03:16.13 | ahqiang | shit |
| 03:16.18 | Wi_Fi | how is asterisk picking up a sound card that aint there? |
| 03:16.20 | ahqiang | i could save up this session |
| 03:16.32 | fearnor | wifi: noload=whatevermodulegivesyouproblems. |
| 03:16.32 | ahqiang | now with all the complians i made about him , i cant |
| 03:16.36 | fearnor | in modules.conf |
| 03:16.37 | ahqiang | hahahaha |
| 03:17.01 | fearnor | grrr |
| 03:17.08 | Moc | wtf is that winning all about ? |
| 03:17.10 | fearnor | does chan_zap support 64k clear-channel calls? |
| 03:17.28 | Moc | whining |
| 03:17.45 | Wi_Fi | there is no soundcard in modules |
| 03:17.54 | fearnor | wifi: explicitly noload it. |
| 03:18.34 | Wi_Fi | but i dont know what card it thinks it has |
| 03:18.51 | *** join/#asterisk michael12345 (~mick@196.40.69.228) |
| 03:18.52 | fearnor | noload => app_intercom.so |
| 03:18.58 | fearnor | noload=>chan_alsa.so |
| 03:19.02 | fearnor | noload=>chan_oss.so |
| 03:19.05 | Wi_Fi | thnx |
| 03:19.13 | fearnor | chan_modem |
| 03:19.13 | fearnor | etc. |
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| 03:19.19 | *** join/#asterisk justinnnnnn (~justinm@solid.mpa.net.au) |
| 03:19.36 | Borgon | hello |
| 03:19.39 | Wi_Fi | add that to /etc/modules.conf |
| 03:19.56 | Borgon | can i use asterisk to spoof caller id? |
| 03:20.06 | justinnnnnn | only localy |
| 03:20.10 | justinnnnnn | to fool ur co-workers :) |
| 03:20.23 | ahqiang | internally u mean? |
| 03:20.26 | justinnnnnn | yip |
| 03:20.47 | justinnnnnn | i dont think ur telco would let u use anything as ur clid |
| 03:20.52 | fearnor | borgon: only if you are l33t hax0r |
| 03:20.57 | justinnnnnn | ours default back to the first number in group when i try do that |
| 03:20.59 | fearnor | in which case, you don't really belong here. |
| 03:21.11 | ahqiang | checkout star38 |
| 03:21.19 | ahqiang | they do caller id spoofing |
| 03:21.25 | justinnnnnn | what is it ? |
| 03:21.26 | Borgon | yeah i did but they are closed |
| 03:21.26 | justinnnnnn | star38 ? |
| 03:21.27 | ahqiang | also the orangebox |
| 03:21.33 | ahqiang | do callerid spoofing also |
| 03:21.37 | ahqiang | it is a company |
| 03:21.38 | Borgon | I am looking for something to spoof caller id |
| 03:21.48 | ahqiang | i am also |
| 03:21.53 | ahqiang | let me know if u can |
| 03:21.55 | justinnnnnn | what legal purposes would u need to do that for :) |
| 03:22.05 | ahqiang | star38 |
| 03:22.25 | michael12345 | can I make queues.conf store the recorded files in another director |
| 03:22.30 | justinnnnnn | u guys r talking bout changing clid to anything ya ? |
| 03:22.39 | justinnnnnn | like 11223344 for e.g ? |
| 03:22.41 | Borgon | am not a law enforment agent so star38 wont help =( |
| 03:22.41 | justinnnnnn | when u call someone |
| 03:23.05 | Borgon | yes |
| 03:23.15 | fearnor | borgon, then, maybe you should try #haxor |
| 03:23.18 | ahqiang | they can help if u pay i guess |
| 03:23.30 | ahqiang | also try orangebox |
| 03:24.13 | Borgon | fearnor, wouldnt this be considered more phreaking? |
| 03:24.13 | Borgon | Are you all familiar with vonage and voip? do they keep logs etc? |
| 03:24.41 | fearnor | borgon, yes. |
| 03:24.47 | fearnor | to comply with CALEA, they better./ |
| 03:25.14 | EnigmaPTK | spoofing caller id CAN come in handy for non illegal purposes. I have my cell phone rung from my office, and add a few digits to the beginning of the CID so that I know it's a forward from the office and not a direct call. (ie, 458-555-1212 comes in to my cellphone as 66-458-555-1212) |
| 03:26.20 | Borgon | fearnor, ok, last question |
| 03:26.29 | fearnor | hrm |
| 03:26.40 | Borgon | fearnor, Can i use voip vonage softphone , mic phone or speaker/headset and will it work with a remote desktop? |
| 03:26.42 | fearnor | i'm getting seriously strange echo when i do any of pri debug commands |
| 03:26.48 | *** join/#asterisk scrubb (~scrubb@OCI-19-40.onecall.net) |
| 03:26.52 | fearnor | pri show span X -> gives me like 5x same thing. |
| 03:26.54 | *** join/#asterisk libpcp (libpcp@210.16.20.5) |
| 03:27.00 | fearnor | borgon: wouldn't have a clue. |
| 03:27.17 | fearnor | does rdesktop proxy sound? if yes, yes, if no, no. |
| 03:27.42 | Borgon | anyone know if its possible to use a remote desktop to make calls? |
| 03:27.56 | ahqiang | yes |
| 03:28.04 | Borgon | could it be made or configured? am sure ther eare alot of open source projects |
| 03:28.04 | Borgon | i dont need it to sound |
| 03:28.23 | Borgon | all i need it to do is forward my calls to my trac phone |
| 03:28.26 | ahqiang | can use * to make remote auto calls |
| 03:28.29 | Wi_Fi | fearnor all those are noloads now |
| 03:28.34 | Borgon | ahqiang, how? |
| 03:28.46 | Wi_Fi | but still gettin audio data error on * start |
| 03:28.56 | Borgon | ahqiang, i was talkign with vonage voip |
| 03:28.57 | ahqiang | do a tcp/ip client to talk to asterisk to org calls for u |
| 03:29.04 | ahqiang | or transfer calls for u |
| 03:29.19 | fearnor | wifi: paste error. |
| 03:29.22 | EnigmaPTK | wi_fi trying noloading music on hold |
| 03:29.24 | ahqiang | o |
| 03:29.26 | ahqiang | oh |
| 03:29.39 | ahqiang | tot u meant calls on asterisk or pstn calls |
| 03:29.40 | *** join/#asterisk xyxz (~nnnnn@67.177.8.232) |
| 03:30.25 | Wi_Fi | http://www.pastebin.com/113441 |
| 03:30.27 | xyxz | Does asterisk compile in 2.6 very well yet? |
| 03:30.38 | Borgon | IS it possible to find which phone company someone uses by just the phone#? |
| 03:30.42 | IOscanner | yep |
| 03:30.51 | IOscanner | I am using 2.6.5 - 2.6.8 |
| 03:30.55 | xyxz | sweet |
| 03:31.01 | xyxz | with digium hardware too? |
| 03:31.01 | yxa | dont think compilations has anything to do with kernel versions |
| 03:31.06 | IOscanner | Yep |
| 03:31.18 | robl^ | xyxz: Asterisk does.. Drivers, on the other hand, might take a bit of trickery..depending on the Linux distro |
| 03:31.22 | lattice | Borgon: no; nanpa.com has a lot of that data. |
| 03:31.28 | IOscanner | t100 and t400 I have tested and the single fxo card |
| 03:31.47 | IOscanner | use the latest stable from cvs v1-0 |
| 03:31.48 | xyxz | I'll have to give it a try then |
| 03:31.52 | fearnor | borgon: its called LERG. |
| 03:31.59 | IOscanner | the unstable doesn't work correctly |
| 03:31.59 | fearnor | it costs ~1500 for a copy. |
| 03:32.06 | IOscanner | I had problems with it. |
| 03:32.09 | Borgon | whats lerg? |
| 03:32.14 | fearnor | google. |
| 03:32.49 | citats | don't forget abut number portability... |
| 03:32.51 | robl^ | xyxz: it does work under 2.6... but not as easily as 2.4.. just be prepared to work a little harder :) |
| 03:33.05 | fearnor | citats: good point. you need LERG + ability to do LNP dip :) |
| 03:33.31 | xyxz | robl^: gotcha... thanks |
| 03:33.32 | citats | plus LERG doesn't like 10k blocks |
| 03:33.41 | fearnor | citats: you mean 1k blocks. |
| 03:33.48 | fearnor | err |
| 03:33.59 | IOscanner | I am having a problem with a t100p. I got a new card the other day and it shows up as a E100P and not a T100P |
| 03:34.04 | citats | hah, man i'm typing bad today |
| 03:34.17 | fearnor | citats: btw, that zapras problem... |
| 03:34.22 | xyxz | IOscanner: the probably shipped you the wrong card |
| 03:34.24 | xyxz | they |
| 03:34.29 | IOscanner | anyone know if I got a card wrong card? |
| 03:34.32 | fearnor | on wct1xxp it doesn't seem to happen often. |
| 03:34.39 | IOscanner | or did they add t1/e1 into the same card |
| 03:34.46 | fearnor | it seems that hdlc takes more cpu time |
| 03:34.57 | fearnor | io: there's new wcte card... |
| 03:34.58 | xyxz | IOscanner: what does the label on the static bag say? |
| 03:35.05 | EnigmaPTK | IOScanner, look at the big chip on the card. if its a DS21352 than its a T100P, if it's a DS21354 then it's an E100P. |
| 03:35.08 | fearnor | io: cat /proc/pci and look for PCI id. |
| 03:35.08 | IOscanner | T100P |
| 03:35.24 | IOscanner | it has jumpers on the top of the card. |
| 03:35.34 | fearnor | io: how does it show as 'wrong card'. |
| 03:35.35 | fearnor | where |
| 03:35.54 | IOscanner | I am not infront to the systme to check it. dmesg show it as a E100P (E1) |
| 03:35.54 | xyxz | well read the numbers on the Dallas chip |
| 03:37.02 | IOscanner | I would assume the wct1xxp can tell which device it is. I have another t100p running on the same build and it shows as t100p in dmesg. |
| 03:37.25 | fearnor | sounds like an rma case ;) |
| 03:37.38 | IOscanner | yeah me too. |
| 03:37.52 | IOscanner | Can we not flash the firmware from a linux box? |
| 03:37.54 | xyxz | yeah |
| 03:38.02 | xyxz | hehe no |
| 03:38.03 | IOscanner | to put back the t100P version on the card |
| 03:38.10 | IOscanner | doh.. |
| 03:38.11 | EnigmaPTK | the t100p and e100p use a PHYSICALLY diferent chip. |
| 03:38.14 | EnigmaPTK | no firmware difference |
| 03:38.46 | IOscanner | The card is marked as t100P. I thought it was a different firmware |
| 03:39.20 | EnigmaPTK | nope. t100p uses a dallas DS21352 with a 1.544 mhz clock, e100p uses a dallas ds21354 with a 2.048 mhz clock. |
| 03:39.30 | EnigmaPTK | no possible way to switch them with firmware. |
| 03:39.47 | IOscanner | Does someone has a t100p installed? Does dmesg show t100P? |
| 03:39.51 | ahqiang | wow |
| 03:40.26 | IOscanner | Enigma: do they use the same board then that has the old t100p lable. |
| 03:40.47 | IOscanner | citats: are they on backorder too? |
| 03:41.07 | fearnor | ok retarded question |
| 03:41.18 | fearnor | how do i tell ast_call that i want 64k clear-channel call? |
| 03:41.33 | blankman | Wi_Fi, did you get your problem fixed? |
| 03:42.01 | Wi_Fi | noooooooooooooo |
| 03:42.06 | EnigmaPTK | they circuit board is identical. |
| 03:42.12 | IOscanner | ok |
| 03:42.17 | blankman | did you noload the aopen module? |
| 03:42.18 | lattice | what info does an LNP dip give? I tried doing some research, but all of the pages I found assume you know everything about the backend tech. :-) |
| 03:42.31 | IOscanner | then sounds like I got an e100p |
| 03:42.41 | IOscanner | doh |
| 03:42.53 | Wi_Fi | yes blankman |
| 03:42.54 | fearnor | lattice: tell you the "real" phone number where the call is routed. sort of. |
| 03:43.05 | Wi_Fi | i actually did all of them |
| 03:43.17 | EnigmaPTK | the only way to tell for SURE is to check the dallas chip. |
| 03:44.09 | lattice | fearnor: ok, I suspected something along those lines. So does that meant that ported lines have two numbers? One that's public, and one that's "internal" to the carrier? |
| 03:44.23 | IOscanner | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.31 | IOscanner | Cool thanks |
| 03:44.34 | EnigmaPTK | my pleasure. |
| 03:45.14 | fearnor | lattice: to be honest - i'm not all that certain. i believe that yes, you are right. the "routing" number (the number it points to) is not necessarily a real 10-digit number, but something special. |
| 03:45.58 | lattice | fearnor: interesting.. I'll have to do some more research. Thanks! :-) |
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| 03:49.47 | bkw_ | Load: 4.12 3.14 2.39 |
| 03:49.49 | bkw_ | haha |
| 03:50.21 | *** join/#asterisk hughhalf (~hugh@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com) |
| 03:50.33 | bkw_ | yay |
| 03:52.10 | drumkilla | what's that from? |
| 03:52.26 | bkw_ | my box |
| 03:52.26 | Moc | damn Polycom is smart... if I receive a call from Jean-Francois Dionne, but that too big to fit on the screen, it will convert it to JF Dionne |
| 03:52.35 | bkw_ | drumkilla i upgraded to the 2.6 kernel |
| 03:52.40 | bkw_ | just to see what all the fuss was about |
| 03:52.43 | bkw_ | i'm far form impressed |
| 03:52.46 | bkw_ | er from |
| 03:53.20 | bkw_ | NO DADDY NO |
| 03:53.24 | Moc | bkw_, same here, compiling the kernel look better ;) but I had more problem than anything |
| 03:53.29 | Wi_Fi | how do remove * |
| 03:53.37 | *** join/#asterisk nestAr (nester@makes.all.the.girlies.go.wewt.wewt.net) |
| 03:53.38 | Wi_Fi | i think i needs to start over |
| 03:53.38 | bkw_ | Wi_Fi why would you wanna do that? |
| 03:53.43 | ahqiang | fearnor and enigma : i am going off , thanks for your input on the central office. see u |
| 03:53.44 | bkw_ | no removing it doesn't fix it |
| 03:53.48 | bkw_ | just fresh check out |
| 03:53.49 | Wi_Fi | ok |
| 03:53.50 | bkw_ | and install again |
| 03:53.55 | Wi_Fi | i did |
| 03:53.56 | bkw_ | define the problem |
| 03:54.01 | bkw_ | what problem are you having? |
| 03:54.06 | Wi_Fi | wont start |
| 03:54.10 | bkw_ | ok |
| 03:54.13 | bkw_ | more info please |
| 03:54.17 | bkw_ | wont start? where does it crash |
| 03:54.18 | Wi_Fi | ill paste |
| 03:54.20 | bkw_ | asterisk -vvvgc |
| 03:54.23 | nestAr | well, i got an email from my Cisco rep.. you guys were right.. you have to have a phone license, even if you're not using cisco's callmanager |
| 03:54.24 | bkw_ | tell me where it segfaults |
| 03:54.26 | bkw_ | or stops |
| 03:54.37 | tessier_ | nestAr: A phone license? |
| 03:54.40 | bkw_ | nestAr hence why cisco can bite me |
| 03:54.43 | nestAr | SIP license |
| 03:54.44 | Wi_Fi | http://www.pastebin.com/113441 |
| 03:54.45 | Moc | nestAr, Im not surprise... But you got a friend ... POLYCOM.. |
| 03:54.50 | tessier_ | nestAr: How much does that cost? |
| 03:54.51 | bkw_ | fuck cisco |
| 03:54.59 | Moc | tessier, alot |
| 03:55.03 | tessier_ | Really? |
| 03:55.10 | Moc | add about 100$CND I think |
| 03:55.13 | bkw_ | ok |
| 03:55.14 | bkw_ | lets fix this |
| 03:55.16 | tessier_ | Perhaps I should start looking at Polycom also then |
| 03:55.22 | Wi_Fi | cisco = proprietary bastards |
| 03:55.23 | Wi_Fi | ehhe |
| 03:55.23 | nestAr | "With a Cisco phone you buy either a Call Manager license or a SIP license." |
| 03:55.24 | bkw_ | Wi_Fi this is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy ot fix |
| 03:55.27 | Moc | Polycom are damn GREAT.. |
| 03:55.29 | bkw_ | bet you noloaded chan_modem.so didn't ya? |
| 03:55.36 | *** join/#asterisk RazorJack (~RazorJack@205.211.153.20) |
| 03:55.42 | tessier_ | Hardware should come with a license if the hardware is useless without the software. |
| 03:55.48 | Wi_Fi | yes |
| 03:55.54 | bkw_ | Wi_Fi noload all chan_modem too |
| 03:55.57 | nestAr | i agree |
| 03:55.58 | AeroT | wifi, cisco made the net possible :) |
| 03:56.00 | bkw_ | every thing with chan_modem* |
| 03:56.06 | bkw_ | otherwise it won't start |
| 03:56.08 | Moc | first, handfree of the polycom sound better than the cisco |
| 03:56.13 | bkw_ | those depend on chan_modem |
| 03:56.19 | tessier_ | Can Polycom phones be managed remotely via tftp etc? |
| 03:56.22 | Moc | second, you got SO MANY OPTIONS ... |
| 03:56.27 | file | dependencies DAVE! |
| 03:56.30 | Moc | tessier, yes, but ftp is better |
| 03:56.31 | RazorJack | I just got musiconhold working perfectly, however when my asterisk pickups my analog line (x100), and puts me on hold, the musiconhold is WAY too loud (even using quietmp3 directive in musiconhold.conf) |
| 03:56.32 | RazorJack | any ideas? |
| 03:56.46 | tessier_ | Moc: The phones can ftp their configs? |
| 03:56.50 | Moc | tessier, yes |
| 03:56.53 | tessier_ | Moc: Awesome. |
| 03:56.54 | Moc | it even upload log file |
| 03:57.02 | tessier_ | Moc: Are they cheaper than Cisco? |
| 03:57.02 | Wi_Fi | do i have do a noload on evertheing in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules? |
| 03:57.05 | Moc | and if you modify stuff on the phone, it will upload the change |
| 03:57.08 | Moc | yes |
| 03:57.12 | tessier_ | Vellly interesting. |
| 03:57.14 | citats | yeah the polycom phones are really nice |
| 03:57.15 | AeroT | in fact its to bad both husband/wife team that created cisco handed over control to managment ie, president or ceo and the two who invented the technoligy were fired. |
| 03:57.22 | Moc | like if you add a contact in the directory, it will upload it to the server |
| 03:57.26 | tessier_ | I have been deploying Cisco's so far but I think that might have to change. They have been pissing me off anyhow. |
| 03:57.44 | fearnor | nobody was ever fired for buying cisco. |
| 03:58.05 | RazorJack | Anybody know how to manually reduce the onhold music volume? |
| 03:58.05 | Moc | IP500 that has 3 extention cost 170$ US |
| 03:58.18 | fearnor | moc: source? |
| 03:58.23 | Moc | froogle |
| 03:58.27 | nestAr | thes polycom phones look nice.. for sure |
| 03:58.29 | Alric | fearnor: Except those layoffs to pay for the Cisco solution? :) |
| 03:58.31 | fearnor | k |
| 03:58.50 | Moc | polycom physicly look better, but the polycom display is alot better.. |
| 03:58.59 | Moc | it smaller, but it easier to read |
| 03:59.18 | AeroT | fearnor, I heard it from the two husband/wife team inventors that created it. Thay were trying to link buildings as a university in so cal and also wanted to create a name of this equipment. Thay thought of Sanfrancisco and shortened it to cisco :) |
| 03:59.26 | Moc | also ring tone are wav file.. |
| 03:59.38 | Moc | and you can set ringtone per Extentions |
| 03:59.41 | RazorJack | Anybody know how to manually reduce the onhold music volume? |
| 03:59.47 | Moc | and you can set a Voicemail Extention per Extention |
| 03:59.57 | tessier_ | Does Polycom have a nice operator console with a bunch of buttons etc that works with NOTIFY etc? |
| 04:00.00 | Moc | also on incoming call, you got the reject option |
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| 04:00.23 | blankman | bkw_, where do we go about testing the new dundi stuff? Meaning how do we set it up for testing? |
| 04:00.23 | fearnor | aero: uhh, its a LOOOONG story about those two. |
| 04:00.25 | Moc | tessier, nope :( |
| 04:00.32 | fearnor | first of all, they jacked the technology from stanford. |
| 04:00.35 | tessier_ | I am having to order a Snom 220 because a client needs an operator console. |
| 04:00.38 | tessier_ | Moc: No? Bummer. |
| 04:00.40 | fearnor | where they have been working on it under grants |
| 04:00.41 | Moc | tessier, well nope for operator stuff I guess |
| 04:00.43 | tessier_ | Still sounds good though. |
| 04:00.55 | tessier_ | I intend to provide a web based operator console for future clients anyhow. |
| 04:00.58 | Moc | maybe ip600 does.. donno |
| 04:01.02 | fearnor | anyway, google for len bosack. |
| 04:01.03 | RazorJack | bkw_: you know how I can reduce the on hold mp3 music volume? |
| 04:01.07 | Moc | tessier, you got a web interface to cfg it also |
| 04:01.13 | bkw_ | quietmp3 |
| 04:01.19 | RazorJack | bkw_ using that |
| 04:01.26 | bkw_ | go edit res_musiconhold.c |
| 04:01.51 | bkw_ | see this |
| 04:01.52 | bkw_ | if (class->quiet) |
| 04:01.52 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.57 | bkw_ | change that to 2048 or 1024 |
| 04:02.10 | RazorJack | bkw_: wow thx :), ill do that |
| 04:02.18 | Moc | bkw_, ha nice hack |
| 04:02.23 | bkw_ | :P |
| 04:02.30 | Wi_Fi | ok |
| 04:02.32 | Moc | anyway, Im really sold to polycom |
| 04:02.32 | bkw_ | I think that should be 2048 by default anyway |
| 04:02.33 | Wi_Fi | now here we go |
| 04:02.40 | Wi_Fi | new error |
| 04:02.40 | Wi_Fi | http://www.pastebin.com/113443 |
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| 04:02.50 | Moc | you got a do not disturb button.. |
| 04:02.55 | bkw_ | ok |
| 04:02.57 | bkw_ | Wi_Fi |
| 04:02.58 | Wi_Fi | took everything out chan_modem* |
| 04:03.02 | bkw_ | you can't possibly be that stupid |
| 04:03.05 | bkw_ | noload app_intercom.so |
| 04:03.07 | Alric | unload app_intercom.so |
| 04:03.13 | Alric | err |
| 04:03.14 | *** join/#asterisk MustDie (~voip@ool-18b91fa7.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:03.24 | drumkilla | bkw_: be nice :p |
| 04:03.25 | fearnor | wifi: i told you THAT an HOUR ago on this channel. |
| 04:03.28 | Alric | Isn't that already noloaded at the top of the stock config file? |
| 04:03.28 | bkw_ | Wi_Fi sorry I don't mean to insult anyone |
| 04:03.34 | RazorJack | bkw_: theres a class->single thats 2048 |
| 04:03.42 | bkw_ | RazorJack keep lookin |
| 04:03.48 | bkw_ | its the exact thing I told you a little below that |
| 04:03.52 | fearnor | > noload => app_intercom.so |
| 04:03.52 | RazorJack | yea I see class->quiet |
| 04:04.01 | RazorJack | but just saying, class-.single's 2048 :P |
| 04:04.25 | RazorJack | recompiled, dialing |
| 04:04.27 | Wi_Fi | bkw_ http://www.pastebin.com/113444 |
| 04:04.46 | bkw_ | run ztcfg -vvv |
| 04:04.51 | bkw_ | make sure your channels are right |
| 04:04.57 | bkw_ | it "shouldn't" segfault |
| 04:05.04 | bkw_ | wtf version are you runing? |
| 04:05.07 | bkw_ | cvs or some package? |
| 04:05.26 | Wi_Fi | Channel map: |
| 04:05.26 | Wi_Fi | Channel 01: FXS Loopstart (Default) (Slaves: 01) |
| 04:05.26 | Wi_Fi | 1 channels configured. |
| 04:05.34 | bkw_ | make sure zapata.conf is correct now |
| 04:05.41 | Wi_Fi | it is |
| 04:05.48 | bkw_ | double check it and post it to pastebin |
| 04:05.52 | Wi_Fi | k |
| 04:06.58 | RazorJack | I gotta say, I wish I had known about asterisk, before I bought my talkswitch.... my talkswitch works good, but asterisk is even better. |
| 04:07.11 | RazorJack | :) |
| 04:07.15 | xyxz | who the hell is xorcom |
| 04:07.23 | xyxz | their whole site seems a little fishy |