| 00:00.08 | Darwin35 | I wish they would port x10 to *nix |
| 00:00.33 | brc_ | amer, sip.conf video=yes |
| 00:00.34 | pfn | x10? you mean the ac power shit? |
| 00:00.38 | pfn | :p |
| 00:00.56 | pfn | and xten is the company |
| 00:01.00 | Darwin35 | that would be nice also to control your house remotly |
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| 00:01.41 | PBXtech | miserhouse works with asterisk.. so you can control your house remotly |
| 00:02.12 | Darwin35 | miserhouse not heard of it |
| 00:02.25 | PBXtech | open source home autmation |
| 00:02.40 | PBXtech | http://misterhouse.net/ |
| 00:02.44 | PBXtech | really cool |
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| 00:05.17 | brc_ | misterhouse is nice...too bad it's written in perl |
| 00:05.30 | brc_ | works with ibuttons too |
| 00:05.38 | redder86 | hrmm... so, should I return the TE410P and get a TE405P or should I order a new motherboard? Is there any benefit to using the 3.3V? |
| 00:05.51 | brc_ | none |
| 00:05.52 | redder86 | I need another server anyway. |
| 00:05.59 | *** join/#asterisk iMediax (~user@00d0a8003aa3.click-network.com) |
| 00:06.00 | brc_ | other |
| 00:06.06 | brc_ | then it's hard to find mobos that uspport it |
| 00:06.31 | NeroLabs | BTW, I got my BT-101 working by setting up a local tftp server. It was "well" enough to connect download the latest firmware, and all. Works great now! |
| 00:06.51 | amer | brc: video=yes didn't work |
| 00:07.04 | tessier | hmmm |
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| 00:07.22 | redder86 | brc_: why did Digium make a 3.3V-only version if so few motherboards support it? |
| 00:07.27 | tessier | I used SetLanguage to make it play my own recordings instead of Allison's but it still plays her numbers in SayDigits |
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| 00:09.26 | tessier | That must mean it can't find my digits... |
| 00:09.40 | tessier | But they are there, I have tried it in the sounds/mylang directory and in sounds/mylang/digits |
| 00:09.54 | redder86 | why make a 32-bit 3.3V card? |
| 00:10.23 | tessier | Oh! I named them one.wav instead of 1.wav |
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| 00:10.42 | pfn | redder to work in 64bit 3.3v slots |
| 00:11.55 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.55 | redder86 | pfn: just in case someone already ran out of 32-bit slots? |
| 00:12.21 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.24 | RoyK | test |
| 00:12.30 | bkw_ | ok if you're wife said "Hey lets get a nice projector for TV with a 14ft screen for the wall..." what would you say? |
| 00:12.45 | iMediax | did the Dial( ) syntax change? Dial(SIP/5000) works, but Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@broadvoice) doesn't anymore |
| 00:12.56 | bkw_ | iMediax no it didn't change |
| 00:13.10 | RoyK | bkw_, 2542 is still bad |
| 00:13.36 | bkw_ | RoyK why can nobody reproduce it |
| 00:13.44 | iMediax | bah... i made no changes and now i get app_dial.c:742 dial_exec: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' |
| 00:14.02 | RoyK | bkw_, I can - now |
| 00:14.03 | iMediax | worked for a month with my configs |
| 00:14.06 | bkw_ | iMediax the peer isn't registered |
| 00:14.09 | bkw_ | RoyK find kram |
| 00:14.19 | iMediax | ahhh |
| 00:14.30 | bkw_ | RoyK I work with chan_sip with larger installs and I dont see it... so its just one of those hard bugs to solve |
| 00:14.31 | EricirE | bkw_: I'd ask the person that said that what they'd done with my wife |
| 00:14.43 | NeroLabs | anyone know why areski's graph displays the hours wrong? seems to be a problem for some people but no data on google about it yet |
| 00:14.52 | bkw_ | EricirE ok i told greg that and he said "No i don't want that.. I want a real tv" |
| 00:14.56 | bkw_ | REAL TV |
| 00:15.07 | bkw_ | fuck that.. 14ft screen over rear projection tv any day |
| 00:15.07 | tecdallas | arrrrggg Vonage isn't working at all tonight. |
| 00:15.19 | EricirE | bkw_: hell yeah 14 baby |
| 00:15.22 | EricirE | you can't beat that |
| 00:15.25 | bkw_ | and I told him we would have to get rid of the celing fan |
| 00:15.26 | EricirE | talk about home theatre |
| 00:15.27 | bkw_ | he said NO |
| 00:15.32 | EricirE | ahhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:15.38 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:15.50 | EricirE | what's this world coming to |
| 00:15.53 | EricirE | :p |
| 00:16.00 | bkw_ | ya when two gay men can't have a 14ft tv |
| 00:16.05 | bkw_ | OH OH |
| 00:16.07 | EricirE | :) |
| 00:16.12 | bkw_ | "Look how good your porn will look on that screen!" |
| 00:16.15 | bkw_ | now thats how i'll pitch it |
| 00:16.25 | EricirE | :) now you're thinking |
| 00:16.50 | bkw_ | i'm all for removing the couch and installing real theatre seats |
| 00:16.55 | iMediax | bkw_ the peer has to be registered, because it can call other sip devices. just not using syntax Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@broadvoice) |
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| 00:17.05 | bkw_ | iMediax no |
| 00:17.15 | bkw_ | your [broadvoice] has a host=ip line |
| 00:17.16 | bkw_ | I bet you |
| 00:17.24 | bkw_ | so it doesn't need to be registered to call it |
| 00:17.31 | *** join/#asterisk wisdom (~cgucker@gait.onesc.net) |
| 00:17.33 | bkw_ | but if you call a peer that is host=dynamic and not registered |
| 00:17.39 | tecdallas | wtf? |
| 00:17.39 | tecdallas | Oct 1 19:17:33 NOTICE[-1258738768]: app_dial.c:742 dial_exec: Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' |
| 00:17.39 | tecdallas | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.40 | bkw_ | you get that stupid can't create channel type SIP |
| 00:17.45 | Jibber | anyone willing to give a newb some iax2 to iax2 onfiguration help ? |
| 00:17.47 | iMediax | ok thanks for narrowing it down for me |
| 00:17.50 | bkw_ | Everyone is busy/congested at this time |
| 00:18.05 | tecdallas | echo... echo ... echo... |
| 00:18.07 | tecdallas | same problem here |
| 00:18.09 | NeroLabs | bkw_: ahahah |
| 00:18.16 | redder86 | Jibber: just ask |
| 00:19.06 | Jibber | I just did redder86 :) I have access to both machines, but I'm kinda lost at what I need to add to the iax.conf and extensions.conf files to allow the remote * server to use the outbound on the local * server |
| 00:19.38 | routerheads_atho | anyone know if you can get the pap2 anywhere besides staples? |
| 00:19.58 | Jibber | basically, I know how to configure the client to connect to the server (be it fwd, or iaxnet) but I don't know what needs to go on the remote server to allow the connection |
| 00:20.23 | Jibber | routerheads_atho I saw the pap2 at BesyBuys web site today |
| 00:20.35 | routerheads_atho | thanks |
| 00:21.11 | iMediax | sweet it works again! |
| 00:22.14 | routerheads_atho | In stock down the street, thanks! |
| 00:22.18 | Jibber | np |
| 00:22.29 | redder86 | Jibber: on the "server" you need to add an entry in iax.conf |
| 00:22.34 | Jibber | yes |
| 00:22.44 | Jibber | can I spam my 5 lines of the iax.conf ? |
| 00:22.50 | redder86 | Jibber: on the "client" you need to add an entry in extensions.conf |
| 00:22.57 | Jibber | yes, I did |
| 00:23.03 | tecdallas | Any vonage users in here? |
| 00:23.22 | redder86 | Jibber: and on the client you also need to add an entry in iax.conf |
| 00:23.32 | Jibber | but I'm not sure on the extension dial(IAX2/bla:bla@bla/${exten:1}) line |
| 00:23.37 | Jibber | I did |
| 00:23.50 | Jibber | same as the one on the server except with a different [name] |
| 00:24.06 | Jibber | and a different host of course |
| 00:24.35 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.36 | Jibber | shows up in the console when I do an iax2 show peers |
| 00:24.44 | Jibber | but it doesn't seem to go anywhere |
| 00:25.10 | Jibber | hummm, or should the [name] be the same on both servers ? |
| 00:25.24 | bkw_ | man oh man oh man |
| 00:25.25 | Jibber | SPAM |
| 00:25.29 | Jibber | [limelyte] |
| 00:25.29 | Jibber | type=friend |
| 00:25.29 | Jibber | host=asterisk.limelyte.com |
| 00:25.29 | Jibber | secret= |
| 00:25.35 | Jibber | context=default |
| 00:25.35 | NeroLabs | anyone know why areski's graph displays the hours wrong? seems to be a problem for some people but no data on google about it yet |
| 00:25.35 | Jibber | permit=0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 |
| 00:25.42 | Jibber | is my entry in iax.conf |
| 00:25.45 | bkw_ | rmeove that permit line |
| 00:25.46 | Darwin35 | n file included from channel.c:46: |
| 00:25.46 | Darwin35 | /usr/local/include/zaptel.h:37:16: os.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:25.46 | Darwin35 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.47 | bkw_ | no need for it |
| 00:25.49 | redder86 | Jibber: on the client... Dial(IAX2/username:password@iaxentryname/extension) |
| 00:25.50 | Jibber | similar for both server and client |
| 00:25.53 | bkw_ | Darwin35 COMPILE a kernel |
| 00:25.55 | Darwin35 | I cant find the fix |
| 00:26.06 | Darwin35 | bkw thisis on a bsd box |
| 00:26.22 | brc_ | compile a bsd kernel |
| 00:26.23 | Darwin35 | I have a linux box running we are trying to get 1.0 working on fbsd |
| 00:26.24 | Jibber | redder86 what is the user name ? the [name] on the server ? |
| 00:26.32 | Darwin35 | I have |
| 00:26.40 | brc_ | Darwin35, zaptel D O E S N O T W O R K ON B S D |
| 00:26.50 | Darwin35 | yes it does |
| 00:26.55 | Darwin35 | U have a working ver |
| 00:27.00 | brc_ | NO I T D O E S N O T |
| 00:27.01 | redder86 | Jibber: yes |
| 00:27.12 | Darwin35 | of bsd zaptel that doe s work the x100p |
| 00:27.21 | brc_ | bah |
| 00:27.22 | Jibber | k, and I can't have the extension I want to dial supplied by the user ? |
| 00:27.23 | brc_ | use linux |
| 00:27.43 | Jibber | brb |
| 00:27.53 | *** part/#asterisk iMediax (~user@00d0a8003aa3.click-network.com) |
| 00:28.01 | redder86 | Jibber: ${EXTEN} is what the user dialed |
| 00:28.20 | Darwin35 | we have a linux box running but we also want to get it updated on fbsd 5.x |
| 00:28.46 | Jibber | ok, so that's what I have and it doesn't work :) |
| 00:28.52 | Darwin35 | there was a fix for the os.h problem but I cant find it |
| 00:29.34 | Jibber | redder86 does the entry on both servers have to have the same [name] ? |
| 00:30.40 | Jibber | my entry in the clients extension.conf is |
| 00:30.41 | Jibber | exten => _8.,1,Dial(IAX2/nougen:munged@limelyte/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 00:30.55 | *** join/#asterisk UnaCoder (~RockStar@c-24-118-47-221.mn.client2.attbi.com) |
| 00:31.05 | UnaCoder | hi! :-) |
| 00:31.09 | brc_ | bye! |
| 00:31.16 | UnaCoder | uhh ok |
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| 00:31.16 | UnaCoder | bye |
| 00:31.18 | UnaCoder | :-p |
| 00:31.21 | Jibber | but the [name] in iax.conf is [nougen] on the server but limelyte on the cleint |
| 00:31.36 | Jibber | client |
| 00:31.56 | UnaCoder | Hey guys, I just found out about Asterisk today and have been toying with the idea of setting up a little PBX for fun |
| 00:32.07 | redder86 | Jibber: I think yes |
| 00:32.13 | UnaCoder | I got a few questions (hopefully) simple questions is anyone can help me quick |
| 00:32.35 | Jibber | redder86 I'll try that |
| 00:32.41 | Jibber | my debug console shows |
| 00:32.42 | Jibber | Executing Dial("SIP/1002-62ea", "IAX2/nougen:munged@limelyte/815099 |
| 00:32.42 | Jibber | 944327") in new stack |
| 00:32.42 | Jibber | -- Called nougen:munged@limelyte/815099944327 |
| 00:32.50 | Jibber | which I find funny as it's not a SIP call |
| 00:32.59 | Jibber | UnaCoder just ask |
| 00:33.02 | redder86 | Jibber: then your extensions.conf is screwed up |
| 00:33.20 | Jibber | redder86 more than likely, k. I'll dig through that more |
| 00:33.31 | UnaCoder | Well, first off, can you use Asterisk as a VoIP server? IE, make your own private internet based phone service? |
| 00:33.38 | UnaCoder | like between my house and my friends house? |
| 00:33.40 | Jibber | UnaCoder yes |
| 00:33.42 | redder86 | UnaCoder: yes |
| 00:33.42 | UnaCoder | sweet |
| 00:34.03 | wisdom | UnaCoder There are whole networks out there specifically for that purpose |
| 00:34.08 | UnaCoder | ok, I don't know alot about telephone network systems, but I do know quite a bit about computer netowrk technology |
| 00:34.11 | Jibber | I talk to my friend in Taiwaon from Southern Ontario all the time using * |
| 00:34.18 | wisdom | that have no connectivity to the traditional phone network |
| 00:35.17 | UnaCoder | with the Digium cards, FXS modules are for connecting to analog telephones to provide telephone-to-switch access? |
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| 00:35.53 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ |
| 00:36.02 | UnaCoder | and the FXO modules are for telephone company line to switch access? am I correct about that? |
| 00:36.05 | zyke | hi guys .. is it possible to set AbsoluteTimeout when using callfiles? |
| 00:36.44 | Jibber | UnaCoder correct |
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| 00:37.14 | tecdallas | ok, pop quiz.. What would be the dial string to force a SIP call out a particular SIP client registration ? |
| 00:37.19 | geertn | hi |
| 00:37.25 | pfn | SIP/clientregistration |
| 00:37.26 | pfn | :p |
| 00:37.28 | UnaCoder | I read a /. article about a guy in canada using it over wifi with his neighbors and stuff, and I have a plethora of cool office ideas... |
| 00:37.38 | UnaCoder | I provice PC/network support to small businesses in my area |
| 00:37.55 | UnaCoder | and I was thinking this would be an awesome way to implement in-office telephone switching... |
| 00:37.57 | Jibber | I do that here over sip |
| 00:38.06 | Jibber | but iax is driving me nuts |
| 00:38.09 | UnaCoder | sip is the protocal that vonage uses isn't it? |
| 00:38.15 | Jibber | nope |
| 00:38.20 | pfn | sip is the protocol that many providers use |
| 00:38.22 | amer | i am trying out callpickup, using *8#, I call phoneA from phoneB, from phoneC I dial *8# but cannot pick up the call |
| 00:38.24 | pfn | vonage uses SIP |
| 00:38.30 | UnaCoder | yeah I thought so |
| 00:38.33 | UnaCoder | I also work for best buy |
| 00:38.35 | geertn | anyone able to get into the 514 FWD conf room? |
| 00:38.38 | UnaCoder | as a computer repair tech |
| 00:38.43 | UnaCoder | so I sell vonage... |
| 00:38.45 | pfn | *8 |
| 00:38.47 | pfn | not *8# |
| 00:38.49 | geertn | I can;t get into it...wondering where the problem is |
| 00:38.56 | Jibber | doh, sorry. Yes Vonage uses sip, no it isn't just a vonage protocol |
| 00:38.57 | amer | both dont work |
| 00:38.58 | pfn | phoneA needs to be callgroup=1 |
| 00:39.03 | pfn | phoneC needs to be pickupgroup=1 |
| 00:39.05 | UnaCoder | Jibber, oh yeah, I knew that :-) |
| 00:39.07 | zyke | callfiles users here? |
| 00:39.09 | amer | yes I have all that |
| 00:39.17 | pfn | restart |
| 00:39.20 | pfn | and it will work |
| 00:39.28 | amer | did all that |
| 00:39.36 | twisted | ame too |
| 00:39.41 | tecdallas | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.41 | twisted | er me too |
| 00:39.44 | tecdallas | doesn't work... |
| 00:39.47 | amer | this is sip to sip |
| 00:39.57 | redder86 | The biggest problem that I have had with SIP is that it doesn't work well with firewalls involved without a lot of headache in customizing the firewalling. |
| 00:40.02 | pfn | so just dial *8 |
| 00:40.08 | pfn | make sure your phone's dial plan allows *8 |
| 00:40.13 | redder86 | Especially when the server resides behind a firewall itself. |
| 00:40.21 | Jibber | redder86 which is why I'm banging my head on the wall over this iax2 stuff |
| 00:40.23 | UnaCoder | do I have to have the PBX server setup at my friend's house as well as mine with PXS' for us to be able to communicate? or can he have a client software that connects to my PBX? |
| 00:40.32 | twisted | Jibber, iax2 doesn't care. |
| 00:40.32 | amer | how do I do that? |
| 00:40.39 | twisted | Jibber, open/forward port 4569 to the server |
| 00:40.41 | twisted | and all is well |
| 00:40.42 | pfn | amer what kinda SIP phone/client are you using here |
| 00:40.48 | Jibber | UnaCoder just one * server is needed |
| 00:40.50 | redder86 | UnaCoder: only one server is necessary. |
| 00:40.52 | amer | polycom and cisco |
| 00:41.13 | pfn | unless your box goes down |
| 00:41.20 | redder86 | IAX works great with firewalls involved. |
| 00:41.23 | pfn | oops |
| 00:41.28 | Jibber | twisted I've got it as a per over iax, but I can't get it to dial, problem in my extension.conf file I assume |
| 00:41.35 | pfn | amer the cisco and polycom both need their dialplans to allow *8 |
| 00:41.39 | twisted | Jibber, probally. |
| 00:41.40 | pfn | or you can hit *8-DIAL |
| 00:41.53 | UnaCoder | are there windows drivers for the Wildcards ? |
| 00:41.58 | pfn | no |
| 00:41.58 | twisted | UnaCoder, ew no. |
| 00:42.02 | pfn | why would you do something stupid like that |
| 00:42.23 | amer | ok let me try that |
| 00:42.26 | redder86 | UnaCoder: the X100P is a "winmodem" that Asterisk uses with a different driver. |
| 00:42.36 | redder86 | So you could use it on Windows, but not with Asterisk |
| 00:43.45 | UnaCoder | redder86, right, but that cheap-o winmodem would make a perfectly fine client for the PBX for, lets say, my friend running winXP? |
| 00:43.56 | pfn | unacoder no |
| 00:43.57 | Jibber | gah |
| 00:43.59 | Jibber | Executing Dial("SIP/1002-b398", "IAX2/nougen: |
| 00:44.03 | Jibber | why SIP ? |
| 00:44.09 | pfn | why SIP what? |
| 00:44.14 | twisted | Jibber, cuz you're calling from a sip client. |
| 00:44.20 | Jibber | ohhhh |
| 00:44.22 | Jibber | true dat |
| 00:44.35 | twisted | ~cluebat Unicoder |
| 00:44.37 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Unicoder. |
| 00:44.45 | pfn | unacoder |
| 00:44.52 | UnaCoder | heh, yeah? |
| 00:45.10 | Jibber | ~cluebat Jibber |
| 00:45.13 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Jibber. |
| 00:45.13 | twisted | oh yea |
| 00:45.26 | twisted | ~cluebat twisted |
| 00:45.28 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps twisted. |
| 00:45.28 | Jibber | didn't help |
| 00:45.28 | UnaCoder | lol |
| 00:45.30 | amer | build_route: Contact hop: <sip:1114@192.168.1.211> No call pickup possible... Nothing to pick up |
| 00:45.36 | redder86 | UnaCoder: there are Windows IAX clients and Windows SIP clients that they could use without any modem device... just a headset plugged into their soundcard. |
| 00:45.36 | twisted | twisted: learn how to spell, dumbass |
| 00:45.54 | tecdallas | I give up.. l8r |
| 00:45.58 | pfn | amer that's because there's no call to pick up then :p |
| 00:45.59 | UnaCoder | redder86, ok, but if I want a telephony card in the machine with a handset next to it? |
| 00:46.04 | pfn | amer make sure you have canreinvite=no |
| 00:46.05 | bkw_ | twisted my dear |
| 00:46.07 | bkw_ | whats up |
| 00:46.10 | twisted | bkw_, the sky |
| 00:46.11 | twisted | the birds |
| 00:46.14 | twisted | the noise level |
| 00:46.18 | amer | ok |
| 00:46.29 | redder86 | UnaCoder: then they need some hardware that does SIP or IAX |
| 00:46.32 | Jibber | sigh |
| 00:46.32 | LennyT | help! I'm seeing PRI errors on a system, moved physical line to another system and they went away.... error is: |
| 00:46.34 | LennyT | Oct 1 17:37:53 NOTICE[1104370480]: PRI got event: 6 on Primary D-channel of span 1 |
| 00:46.41 | Jibber | anyone wanna login and see my config ? |
| 00:46.41 | zamsler | twisted, my savior. |
| 00:46.44 | redder86 | UnaCoder: like an ATA device or the IAXy |
| 00:46.53 | twisted | zamsler, i didn't do it |
| 00:46.57 | zamsler | LOL |
| 00:46.58 | twisted | oh wait |
| 00:46.58 | zamsler | i know. |
| 00:47.01 | twisted | you called me your saviour |
| 00:47.05 | twisted | so maybe i did |
| 00:47.20 | zamsler | I upgraded to yesterday's cvs head, and no callreid |
| 00:47.26 | bkw_ | twisted anthm got all mad at cepstral today... they are so disorganized |
| 00:47.29 | bkw_ | poor guys |
| 00:47.41 | pfn | "VOIP CALL " <9728892852> |
| 00:47.43 | twisted | bkw_, ahhahaah... what for? |
| 00:47.50 | pfn | how weird, I got that as a callerid on my pots line |
| 00:47.59 | bkw_ | the docs they sent him were what he had already tried and figured out it iddn't work |
| 00:48.08 | LennyT | Any ideas on why I'm getting lots of these... but PRI is good in another system? |
| 00:48.09 | LennyT | Oct 1 17:37:53 NOTICE[1104370480]: PRI got event: 6 on Primary D-channel of span 1 |
| 00:48.20 | bkw_ | LennyT check the clocking |
| 00:48.24 | UnaCoder | redder86, any recomendations for windows hardware? |
| 00:48.30 | twisted | bkw_, ahh... they did that to me yesterday |
| 00:48.34 | bkw_ | look at my titties.. do you find me sexy!!! |
| 00:48.42 | LennyT | bkw, configs haven't changed and PRI works with same config in another system... different CVS versions |
| 00:48.43 | twisted | bkw_, you have man titties |
| 00:49.01 | pfn | unacoder windows has no good pbx hardware |
| 00:49.03 | bkw_ | twisted and that whole non-threadsafe stuff... man that pisses me off |
| 00:49.06 | pfn | unless you want to run call manager.... |
| 00:49.08 | bkw_ | LennyT something has to be diffrent |
| 00:49.12 | twisted | bkw_, calm down |
| 00:49.14 | bkw_ | 6 and 8 are BAD |
| 00:49.20 | bkw_ | ie frame errors |
| 00:49.22 | bkw_ | or something |
| 00:49.31 | UnaCoder | not pbx hardware |
| 00:49.36 | LennyT | hmm.... ones running Fedora Core 2 and the other RH9... only difference. |
| 00:49.38 | pfn | hardware for what then? |
| 00:49.38 | redder86 | UnaCoder: you don't need Windows hardware, just hardware |
| 00:49.39 | UnaCoder | just pxs hardware |
| 00:49.46 | pfn | what's pxs |
| 00:49.47 | twisted | bkw_, at least they're working with me on it |
| 00:49.49 | UnaCoder | err |
| 00:49.50 | LennyT | Any libpri/zaptel changes that might have caused it recently? |
| 00:49.56 | redder86 | UnaCoder: Sipura SP-2000, Digium IAXy |
| 00:49.57 | bkw_ | twisted yep |
| 00:49.57 | UnaCoder | fxs |
| 00:50.06 | amer | pfn: that didn't work :( |
| 00:50.08 | bkw_ | twisted I have all the voices installed.. haha |
| 00:50.20 | pfn | amer on all 3 phones, you set canreinvite=no? |
| 00:50.21 | bkw_ | I don't think so you dutch bastard!!! |
| 00:50.31 | amer | yes sir |
| 00:50.35 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:50.41 | UnaCoder | bbiab |
| 00:50.42 | bkw_ | ignore me most of the time people |
| 00:50.45 | pfn | you reloaded and everything? |
| 00:50.48 | redder86 | UnaCoder: if you want his handset to be connected to hardware running in a Windows box with software involved, then I have no suggestions. |
| 00:50.49 | bkw_ | unless you directly address me |
| 00:50.54 | amer | yup |
| 00:51.02 | pfn | do not connect a handset to a windows box |
| 00:51.05 | pfn | connect a handset to an ATA |
| 00:51.15 | amer | stop now and asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvgc |
| 00:51.17 | pfn | like sipura, etc. |
| 00:51.58 | bkw_ | are those sharks with laser beams attached to their heads? |
| 00:52.11 | bkw_ | I have freakin sharks with freakin laser beams attached to their freakin heads!!! |
| 00:52.25 | twisted | bkw_, shhh! |
| 00:52.28 | amer | do i need to include any special contexts, like include => callparked |
| 00:52.28 | bkw_ | pop a squat right next to daddy |
| 00:52.44 | bkw_ | scotty's on *fire* |
| 00:53.08 | twisted | bkw_'s signal to noise ratio has exceeded it's limit for the day |
| 00:53.18 | bkw_ | the tiny one can't take a hint |
| 00:53.43 | Darwin35 | ok got * back on fbsd 5.3 beta 6 and it works and ztdummy works |
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| 00:54.07 | twisted | oh great. |
| 00:54.35 | redder86 | bkw_: so it seems |
| 00:54.42 | twisted | Rod the Redneck is outside showing off his "BIG-ASS TRUCK(tm)" |
| 00:54.44 | Mike | gold member? |
| 00:54.50 | Mike | how come? i have my pants on |
| 00:54.52 | Mike | :P |
| 00:54.57 | Mike | you cant see it right now |
| 00:54.59 | bkw_ | guys with loud trucks have little dicks |
| 00:55.04 | Darwin35 | and testing new zaptel drivers that just came today |
| 00:55.07 | twisted | bkw_, heh.. *nod* |
| 00:55.07 | zamsler | LOL |
| 00:55.14 | bkw_ | I hate that... |
| 00:55.15 | Darwin35 | we will see next if the card loads up |
| 00:55.17 | twisted | bkw_, i drive a neon, if that tells ya anything |
| 00:55.18 | twisted | :P |
| 00:55.23 | twisted | a pre-2k model... |
| 00:55.24 | twisted | small |
| 00:55.31 | bkw_ | twisted yes I did sleep in the same bed with you... if you do recall |
| 00:55.35 | twisted | wait |
| 00:55.37 | twisted | you felt it? |
| 00:55.41 | Mike | hahahahah |
| 00:55.46 | bkw_ | how could I you pushed me off the bed all the damn time |
| 00:55.51 | LennyT | Darwin35 -- are the FBSD drivers in CVS? |
| 00:55.51 | bkw_ | :P |
| 00:55.52 | twisted | ONE NIGHT |
| 00:55.54 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:56.04 | redder86 | so Astricon was an orgy? |
| 00:56.10 | bkw_ | accually yes |
| 00:56.10 | twisted | redder86, inadvertantly |
| 00:56.17 | bkw_ | we had 6 people on a bed without shoes |
| 00:56.21 | bkw_ | so it was a massive orgy |
| 00:56.26 | Darwin35 | not yet I just got them from the bsd dev team for testing |
| 00:56.31 | Mike | bkw_, so you had sexual activity during asteriscon days? |
| 00:56.35 | bkw_ | no |
| 00:56.42 | Darwin35 | if they work they will be in cvs by monday |
| 00:56.43 | bkw_ | just 6 people on a bed without shoes is an orgy by GA law |
| 00:56.46 | twisted | heh |
| 00:56.47 | LennyT | Darwin35, cool. |
| 00:56.59 | twisted | "Did ya think that I was gonna give it up to you?" |
| 00:57.00 | LennyT | Do you know if it will be only 5.x or 4.10/11 work? |
| 00:57.27 | *** part/#asterisk timba (~timba@217.194.157.220) |
| 00:57.35 | bkw_ | twisted hahah |
| 00:57.38 | Darwin35 | well they will be tweaked for both |
| 00:57.53 | LennyT | Great news. All cards, or just a few? |
| 00:57.55 | Jibber | sigh |
| 00:58.06 | Jibber | on the server in iax.conf is the type peer or user ? |
| 00:58.13 | Darwin35 | tdm and x10xP |
| 00:58.23 | Jibber | I currently have it as type-friend on both |
| 00:58.23 | Darwin35 | right now and a few more soon |
| 00:59.26 | LennyT | Ok, looking for the t100p too. |
| 01:00.39 | redder86 | Why does the iaxtel quality suck? |
| 01:01.05 | Darwin35 | i will ask them tomarrow about the t100p |
| 01:01.10 | redder86 | Too may GnoPhone abusers? |
| 01:01.12 | Darwin35 | I know they are working on it |
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| 01:03.07 | pfn | gnophone abusers? |
| 01:04.57 | MustDie | dudes, who has do not call registry database |
| 01:07.16 | redder86 | pfn: calling toll free over iaxtel usually amounts to one poor-quality call |
| 01:08.28 | drumkilla | it *is* a free service ... |
| 01:11.07 | pfn | mustdie ? |
| 01:11.11 | zamsler | hmm |
| 01:11.19 | pfn | redder oh, there are other free 1-800 gateways |
| 01:11.25 | zamsler | I have upgraded to todays cvs and still no callerid.. |
| 01:11.25 | pfn | like fwd has free 1-800 access |
| 01:11.35 | zamsler | does anyone have this working? |
| 01:12.47 | bkw_ | http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/01/camera.phone.ap/index.html |
| 01:13.33 | redder86 | drumkilla: but it's usually so bad that it's unusable... thus free=abused |
| 01:13.44 | bkw_ | then dont use it |
| 01:13.48 | bkw_ | its not abused its just bad |
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| 01:14.09 | redder86 | bkw_: why is it bad? Were they discount lines? |
| 01:14.14 | bkw_ | who knows |
| 01:14.29 | bkw_ | drumkilla I wanna talk to kram about doing some stuff for iaxtel and asterlink |
| 01:14.39 | bkw_ | we might be able to hookup some kewl stuff for it |
| 01:15.36 | denon | bkw: you know anyone that has a sipura 3000? cant figure out how to get this sucker to pass the inbound calls back to the pbx |
| 01:15.38 | denon | outbound is cool tho |
| 01:15.52 | bkw_ | denon you can't I don't think |
| 01:15.58 | bkw_ | but youc an pass an outbound to it? |
| 01:16.06 | denon | wha? |
| 01:16.31 | denon | why wouldnt you be able to? |
| 01:16.37 | bkw_ | because they are lazy |
| 01:16.48 | denon | nah, I got the impression you can .. |
| 01:16.54 | bkw_ | no you can't |
| 01:16.58 | bkw_ | it was part of the plan |
| 01:16.58 | denon | you serious? |
| 01:16.59 | bkw_ | I think |
| 01:17.05 | denon | thats the only reason I bought this f'n thing |
| 01:17.06 | bkw_ | or am I thinking Grandstream |
| 01:17.09 | RoyK | bkw_, hu |
| 01:17.24 | denon | bkw: grandstream I thin is different yeah |
| 01:17.46 | redder86 | I've not had any problem with my Grandstream or Sipuras. |
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| 01:18.05 | denon | redder86: you using sipura for fxo? (the 3000) |
| 01:18.06 | redder86 | Although I'd like to trade my Grandstream in for a Snom sometime soon. |
| 01:18.23 | RoyK | bkw_, diana has described that bug quite thorogh. |
| 01:18.39 | RoyK | is it still non-existnant? |
| 01:18.40 | redder86 | denon: I use the the Sipura SP-2000 for FXS. |
| 01:18.42 | bkw_ | RoyK yes I know but I can't reproduce it and till you let kram in to look at it you're blowing smoke boi |
| 01:18.55 | denon | redder86: yeah, im talkin fxo here |
| 01:19.02 | bkw_ | RoyK also l-fy is a bit of an asterisk hater |
| 01:19.07 | bkw_ | great coder |
| 01:19.08 | Damin | Man.. |
| 01:19.10 | bkw_ | but she is very biased |
| 01:19.11 | Damin | SIP sucks.. |
| 01:19.12 | redder86 | denon: you want to plug your PSTN into the SP-3000? |
| 01:19.30 | denon | redder86 |
| 01:19.35 | denon | redder86: yeah, and it works fine .. outbound |
| 01:19.38 | Damin | Can't get it to work right.. |
| 01:19.39 | RoyK | bkw_, still, she has found the bug and is working on it now |
| 01:19.39 | denon | and I see the inbound calls come in |
| 01:19.45 | Damin | Accross Double NAT.. :) |
| 01:19.46 | denon | I just cant get them to redirect to the sip |
| 01:19.49 | Damin | Even w/ STUN.. |
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| 01:19.52 | denon | I think its ringing the fxs |
| 01:19.56 | bkw_ | RoyK then if she's workin on it then great maybe she can post a fix for it |
| 01:20.09 | redder86 | denon: interesting... I'd never thought of trying to configure it that way. |
| 01:20.20 | bkw_ | personally I think we need libsip, libmgcp and libskinny to break out the protocol crap |
| 01:20.26 | denon | redder86: im just using it as an fxo port.. |
| 01:20.41 | Mike | bkw_, libunicall |
| 01:20.42 | redder86 | denon: don't want to buy an AMI-IA92? |
| 01:20.44 | RoyK | bkw_, the only reason she's working on it is that noone else cares. |
| 01:20.53 | denon | redder86: hmm? |
| 01:20.54 | redder86 | denon: the winmodem |
| 01:20.56 | bkw_ | RoyK it was just posted.. and I see you going back and forth with kram |
| 01:20.59 | bkw_ | and have yet to get what he needs |
| 01:21.05 | denon | redder86: no .. im moving away from an X101P .. |
| 01:21.09 | denon | this is for a different application anyway |
| 01:21.16 | denon | Ive got a channel banks for normal stuff |
| 01:21.17 | redder86 | oh |
| 01:21.19 | indigo | is it just me, or is the ztdummy build totally broken? |
| 01:21.29 | denon | I want to use these for soho users |
| 01:21.39 | pfn | just you |
| 01:21.56 | indigo | :/ |
| 01:22.10 | bkw_ | RoyK I see krams reply to your last bug note |
| 01:22.12 | indigo | i get hundreds of errors that would indicate header files not being included |
| 01:22.13 | RoyK | bkw_, I was online with kram for one an and a half hour with kram yesterday, and he managed to log onto my box....... |
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| 01:22.25 | indigo | implicit declarations and such, missing types, etc... |
| 01:22.27 | pfn | indigo well, why would they be included if your source isn't there :p |
| 01:22.27 | bkw_ | RoyK was he able to see the bug as it happened? |
| 01:22.30 | pfn | indigo read the README |
| 01:22.31 | NoRemorse | hi, how do I change the ring tone for sip extensions on my * please? |
| 01:22.40 | bkw_ | RoyK I know almost nothing about SIP |
| 01:22.44 | bkw_ | so i'm not much help in that |
| 01:22.44 | pfn | noremorse depends on the device |
| 01:22.54 | NoRemorse | really? so the device issues the tone?! |
| 01:23.03 | NoRemorse | I am not re-inviting |
| 01:23.04 | RoyK | bkw_, the SIP stuff is posted in the bug report |
| 01:23.07 | pfn | no, the method depends on the device |
| 01:23.12 | bkw_ | RoyK it makes little sense to me |
| 01:23.15 | pfn | generally, you set ALERT_INFO |
| 01:23.18 | NoRemorse | ah ok, cisco ata-186? |
| 01:23.23 | pfn | but what you set alert_info depends on device |
| 01:23.29 | pfn | ALERT_INFO=<Bellcore-dr1> |
| 01:23.30 | NoRemorse | kk |
| 01:23.34 | pfn | dr1 thru dr5 |
| 01:23.37 | RoyK | bkw_, then what do you complain abouot? |
| 01:23.52 | NoRemorse | what conf file pfn? |
| 01:23.58 | pfn | extensions.conf |
| 01:24.01 | pfn | before you dial |
| 01:24.04 | NoRemorse | thanks |
| 01:24.45 | bkw_ | RoyK I basically understand this bug as a lock thats used in two places.. a race condition happens that causes the lock to block in other threads |
| 01:25.22 | bkw_ | RoyK I wasn't the one doing the complaining... if i recall that was you.. i was just trying to make sure we get the info to get the problem fixed |
| 01:25.35 | bkw_ | My hands are tied because I can't reproduce it |
| 01:26.09 | denon | bkw: looking at docs, it looks like this sucker definitely will do what I want .. just cant figure out how. |
| 01:26.34 | bkw_ | i'm lookin at it the line l-fy is talkin about |
| 01:26.41 | bkw_ | which would have jack ot do what what she describes |
| 01:27.11 | RoyK | bkw_, the only way to reproduce it is to have a SIP client being slow to answser aafter the initial 401 |
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| 01:27.44 | bkw_ | RoyK define slow |
| 01:27.46 | bkw_ | how slow/ |
| 01:27.49 | bkw_ | longer than 15 seconds/ |
| 01:27.55 | RoyK | if I've understood what Diana's been saying |
| 01:28.20 | indigo | pfn: i don't understand what i'm not doing. Any hints? |
| 01:28.32 | RoyK | after the initial 401, all network traffic blocks until the 200 |
| 01:28.40 | bkw_ | RoyK they would have to take longer than 15 seconds respond.... hrm |
| 01:28.43 | RoyK | so if that tak |
| 01:28.45 | bkw_ | this goto is nasty look in |
| 01:28.47 | Darwin35 | ok * on 5.3 is wy nice clean and fast |
| 01:28.50 | pfn | indigo have you read the readme? |
| 01:28.55 | bkw_ | RoyK I see the bit of code she is talkin about |
| 01:28.56 | RoyK | bkw_, no - also RTP traffic |
| 01:29.04 | indigo | pfn: yes, i don't see how that relates to my problem |
| 01:29.05 | pfn | indigo have you done what it says with the kernel sources? |
| 01:29.21 | Darwin35 | moh works and the conf rooms work |
| 01:29.32 | bkw_ | RoyK thats because something is blocking |
| 01:29.34 | bkw_ | that shoudln't be |
| 01:29.38 | indigo | pfn: i don't see anything about kernel sources |
| 01:29.49 | RoyK | bkw_, why is this? |
| 01:29.57 | bkw_ | if it stops audio of other calls then its a bad issue associtated with locking |
| 01:30.20 | denon | anyone know who "logan" on the wiki might be? |
| 01:30.21 | indigo | pfn: are we talking about zaptel/README ? |
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| 01:30.23 | pfn | bleh, the readme sucks |
| 01:30.23 | RoyK | it's the same thread |
| 01:30.28 | denon | he didnt log in, "anonymous" |
| 01:30.28 | RoyK | that's the prob |
| 01:30.30 | RoyK | right? |
| 01:30.31 | pfn | indigo you're not compiling on 2.6 are you? |
| 01:30.36 | pfn | if so, read that one... heh |
| 01:30.40 | bkw_ | RoyK could be |
| 01:30.49 | pfn | otherwise, ln -s /usr/src/linux-version /usr/src/linux-2.4 |
| 01:30.56 | RoyK | if it were two threads it should be no prob |
| 01:31.05 | bkw_ | it happens in that retrylock: area right |
| 01:31.08 | indigo | pfn: no, 2.4.21 |
| 01:31.21 | indigo | pfn: i did that |
| 01:31.34 | RoyK | and it should be two threads, one for signalling, one for voice |
| 01:31.35 | pfn | make oldconfig ; make bzImage in linux-2.4 then |
| 01:31.40 | pfn | and then you can make in zaptel |
| 01:31.41 | bkw_ | I have a feelin its with netlock |
| 01:31.42 | Darwin35 | ok now to test and see if it loads the clone card up |
| 01:31.54 | bkw_ | RoyK thats how I understood it also |
| 01:31.56 | NoRemorse | pfn, whats the correct altert_info for an AU ringtone on the ata? |
| 01:32.06 | bkw_ | we share a lock with something we shouldn't be |
| 01:32.12 | bkw_ | in another thread |
| 01:32.17 | pfn | I don't know |
| 01:32.23 | RoyK | bkw_, I have a fealing the netlock is exactly what diana told us was the problem |
| 01:32.24 | bkw_ | RoyK is that how you took it too? |
| 01:32.28 | pfn | I know nothing about international ringtones |
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| 01:32.41 | bkw_ | RoyK lets create a new lock and test this |
| 01:32.48 | NoRemorse | how do I reload extensions.conf w/o restarting asterisk from CLI? |
| 01:32.51 | indigo | pfn: must i rebuild the kernel to make the module? I have the sources, but switching kernels is not really an option |
| 01:33.00 | bkw_ | yes thats exactly it |
| 01:33.05 | pfn | you don't have to switch kernels |
| 01:33.09 | pfn | you just need to have a properly built kernel |
| 01:33.21 | redder86 | NoRemorse: reload? |
| 01:33.27 | indigo | pfn: i see, thanks |
| 01:33.40 | bkw_ | RoyK I have a feelin that lock is in the WRONG spot |
| 01:33.46 | NoRemorse | extensions reload |
| 01:34.12 | bkw_ | RoyK have you tried moving that around a bit? |
| 01:34.33 | bkw_ | that netlock shoudln't be held till maybe after that p->lock? |
| 01:35.12 | bkw_ | that lock and unlock might need to be totally inside that if |
| 01:35.59 | bkw_ | RoyK I wanna try something |
| 01:36.05 | denon | ah ha .. logan@gedanken.org |
| 01:36.08 | bkw_ | I think that retrylocl is causing it |
| 01:37.05 | RoyK | bkw_, I have Diana on the case. brb |
| 01:38.05 | doughecka | click |
| 01:38.09 | NoRemorse | pfn, alert_info sets the sound the device makes when it rings or the tone the caller hears? (I need to change the tone the caller hears) |
| 01:38.10 | doughecka | dial tooooooooooooooooone |
| 01:38.27 | bkw_ | RoyK ask her if maybe we are grabbing the netlock too soon |
| 01:38.38 | bkw_ | I don't think we should have it till we have p->lock |
| 01:38.59 | routerheads_atho | anyone have access to the Sipura Profile Compiler? |
| 01:39.07 | bkw_ | routerheads_atho you can email them for it |
| 01:40.22 | NoRemorse | ah its for the actual ring sound the phone makes, does anyone know how to change the tone a caller hears when ringing a sip extension please? |
| 01:40.29 | Jibber | thanks redder86 for the help |
| 01:40.35 | Jibber | I know what the problem is |
| 01:41.31 | routerheads_atho | bkw_:Do you have it? |
| 01:41.56 | Dr_Frankenstein | Hi all |
| 01:42.01 | NoRemorse | hmm I have found indications.conf and set country=au but I still get a US style ringtone |
| 01:42.48 | *** part/#asterisk niihon (~niihon@ACC780EC.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:44.00 | bkw_ | RoyK www.bkw.org/sip.diff |
| 01:44.22 | bkw_ | RoyK test that and see if that might fix it |
| 01:45.26 | bkw_ | refresh the patch I cleaned out the // comments |
| 01:45.27 | mishehu | and squeeze it too hard |
| 01:45.29 | denon | huh. sipura doesnt like *67 |
| 01:45.32 | denon | stuck up pos |
| 01:46.34 | redder86 | Jibber: what was wrong? |
| 01:46.40 | redder86 | JerJer: are you here? |
| 01:46.41 | denon | hmm .. or else sip doesnt like to dial it |
| 01:46.57 | denon | guess I've never dialed a * via sip. . |
| 01:47.02 | redder86 | anyone else from NuFone here? |
| 01:48.43 | Dr_Frankenstein | I've installed NuFone |
| 01:48.51 | Dr_Frankenstein | does that count? |
| 01:49.32 | redder86 | Dr_Frankenstine: I want to add services to my account. |
| 01:49.34 | NoRemorse | Hello, if I do Playtones(ring) I get the right ring tone from my indications.conf, but Dial() doesnt seem to use these. is there anyway of telling the Dial function to use the right countries tones please? |
| 01:49.58 | redder86 | Dr_Frankenstein: I'm wondering what the procedure is. |
| 01:50.16 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@221.80-202-161.nextgentel.com) |
| 01:50.59 | bkw_ | RoyK do you wanna let me in your box to try a few things ? |
| 01:51.02 | bkw_ | to collect more info |
| 01:51.10 | Dr_Frankenstein | ooppss sorry redder86.... I miss read that.... I installed NuTone |
| 01:51.12 | Darwin35 | is there a way to make asterisk notify you when a extension logs in ? |
| 01:51.23 | bkw_ | Darwin35 manager interface |
| 01:51.30 | Darwin35 | like have it announce and hangup |
| 01:51.41 | Darwin35 | ok |
| 01:51.52 | Darwin35 | the cli |
| 01:52.57 | Darwin35 | ok the zaptel drivers load and see a card |
| 01:53.06 | amer | ok I got it working, callpickup with *8 |
| 01:53.07 | Darwin35 | thats step one |
| 01:53.21 | Darwin35 | amur document it |
| 01:53.59 | amer | is there a way to configure directed callpickup? |
| 01:54.08 | Darwin35 | for chanspy do you jey add it to * in the src |
| 01:54.35 | Darwin35 | there is no readme on chanspy |
| 01:54.41 | indigo | AAAGH! |
| 01:55.37 | amer | *8 give me an ivr "enetr ext to pickup" and I dial a 4 digit ext + # to pickup the call |
| 01:55.52 | amer | can this be done? |
| 01:56.31 | indigo | is there no way to do conferencing without hardware or kernel modifications? |
| 01:56.49 | indigo | ug. I should work on typing |
| 01:57.27 | kram | hi slepp :) |
| 01:57.30 | slePP | 'lo |
| 01:57.36 | drumkilla | kram, long time no see! |
| 01:57.41 | kram | heh |
| 01:57.42 | slePP | how sensitive is asterisk to zaptel timing, kram? |
| 01:58.16 | slePP | someone is launching fireworks outside |
| 01:58.36 | mishehu | blah. |
| 01:58.41 | Dr_Frankenstein | did Kerry quit already? |
| 01:58.46 | Dr_Frankenstein | lol |
| 01:58.55 | mishehu | nah, I think Bush got a brain cell that functions part of the time |
| 01:59.04 | kram | is it even held? |
| 01:59.24 | amer | kerry won dude |
| 01:59.43 | {o_o} | i bet before the next election, they would have captured bin laden |
| 01:59.50 | {o_o} | they probably have him in the bsement of the white house |
| 01:59.53 | Dr_Frankenstein | maybe Kerry has gone 24 hours now without changing his position and they are celebrating |
| 01:59.54 | {o_o} | aka... trump card |
| 01:59.58 | mishehu | it was no debate. it was a joint press conference. |
| 02:00.27 | amer | there was no comparison |
| 02:00.37 | amer | busk looked stupid |
| 02:00.40 | indigo | pfn: well, i got it to build, but it's full of unresolved symbols. This stupid server has some custom kernel on it, and I don't have the sources or the toolchain to reproduce it. Any ideas on how I can get around this? |
| 02:00.41 | {o_o} | as usual |
| 02:00.57 | Dr_Frankenstein | Bush is a President.... not a debater |
| 02:01.05 | drumkilla | please don't talk about politics in here. |
| 02:01.12 | Dr_Frankenstein | ok |
| 02:01.25 | drumkilla | yay! |
| 02:01.31 | amer | he is just stupid and nothing else |
| 02:01.38 | zamsler | has anyone had callerid issues lately |
| 02:01.39 | zamsler | ? |
| 02:01.41 | slePP | kram: heeeeelp me. :> |
| 02:01.46 | {o_o} | * 4 prez! |
| 02:02.07 | kram | help w/ what? |
| 02:02.17 | slePP | how sensitive is asterisk to the zaptel timing? |
| 02:02.23 | slePP | cuz i have a quality issue i cannot track down |
| 02:02.27 | drumkilla | Dr_Frankenstein: thanks. I just think that political flame-wars are better suited for private chat |
| 02:02.43 | slePP | and i'm wondering if hard drive activity is getting in the way |
| 02:03.02 | drumkilla | slePP: is dma turned on? |
| 02:03.09 | slePP | yes |
| 02:03.12 | *** join/#asterisk gambolputty (~gambolput@cblmdm204-118-177-213.buckeye-express.com) |
| 02:04.06 | indigo | i'm looking to get a voip-only voice conference server running, and it seems I can't get * to do it because i don't have any zaptel hardware and I can't get ztdummy to build properly for lack of the matching kernel build. Can anyone suggest another solution? |
| 02:04.12 | zamsler | slePP, have you heard of any callerid issues? |
| 02:04.23 | slePP | tons and tons of them |
| 02:04.23 | slePP | heh |
| 02:04.26 | brc_ | noipe |
| 02:04.33 | zamsler | LOL |
| 02:04.39 | drumkilla | zamsler: do a cvs update and you'll get a reword of caller-id |
| 02:04.40 | drumkilla | ha |
| 02:04.40 | zamsler | seriously. |
| 02:04.51 | drumkilla | er, rework |
| 02:04.53 | zamsler | I did that. |
| 02:04.57 | zamsler | callerid does not work |
| 02:05.01 | drumkilla | within this last few minutes? |
| 02:05.02 | brc_ | indigo, get the kernel source |
| 02:05.11 | drumkilla | it was checked in a few minutes ago ... |
| 02:05.17 | zamsler | 30 mins ago. |
| 02:05.24 | zamsler | I will get it now. |
| 02:05.27 | brc_ | indigo, whoever gave yo;u the kernel is obligated to also provide the source upon request |
| 02:05.36 | bkw_ | i'm livin on the edge |
| 02:05.37 | brc_ | indigo, this IS going to be a dedicated server correct? |
| 02:05.44 | brc_ | just compile a new kernel from kernel.org |
| 02:05.45 | drumkilla | bkw_: wooooo! |
| 02:06.00 | indigo | brc_: it's at a colo, so that's not really wise |
| 02:06.10 | brc_ | indigo, no serial console? |
| 02:06.16 | drumkilla | oh yeah! well i've compiled 7 times! |
| 02:06.19 | brc_ | hook up a serial console |
| 02:06.27 | bkw_ | brc_ from kernel.org you say... why not sco.com? |
| 02:06.38 | indigo | brc_: i don't have a 1000 mile null modem cable |
| 02:06.40 | brc_ | they are *evil* |
| 02:06.41 | brc_ | remember? |
| 02:06.41 | drumkilla | bkw_: you ain't right. |
| 02:06.49 | brc_ | indigo, you only have the one server at the colo?... |
| 02:06.58 | indigo | brc_: yes |
| 02:07.26 | brc_ | well just set it up right and have their remote hands service go and pick the old kernel from grub if it doesn't work... |
| 02:07.31 | Dr_Frankenstein | Drumkilla??? if you had RedHat 9 and Mandrake to use Asterisk with which would you use? |
| 02:07.40 | drumkilla | Dr_Frankenstein: makes no difference |
| 02:07.45 | brc_ | Dr_Frankenstein, how about fedora 2? |
| 02:07.51 | brc_ | RH9 is pretty darn old |
| 02:07.57 | zamsler | debian |
| 02:07.59 | zamsler | ;) |
| 02:08.01 | drumkilla | though it is best to use a vanilla kernel |
| 02:08.06 | brc_ | I agree...use debian |
| 02:08.10 | indigo | brc_: hah...it's not that kind of colo :) |
| 02:08.20 | drumkilla | use whatever you are most comfortable with. |
| 02:08.21 | Dr_Frankenstein | I only have RH7 RH9 and Mandrake in my hands right now and just need to get this thing started |
| 02:08.22 | brc_ | indigo, what kind of colo?.... |
| 02:08.25 | zamsler | no.. drumkilla build the kernel; |
| 02:08.36 | brc_ | Dr_Frankenstein, use debians new net installer |
| 02:08.36 | indigo | brc_: it's more like a "oh, you can't boot? we will re-image your drive" colo |
| 02:08.47 | drumkilla | whatever. doesn't matter. just get one without a goofy patch set |
| 02:08.55 | brc_ | Dr_Frankenstein, what distros are you famailiar with? |
| 02:08.55 | slePP | app_dbodbc.c:269: error: structure has no member named `callerid |
| 02:08.57 | slePP | mwuhauha |
| 02:08.59 | slePP | great. |
| 02:09.02 | brc_ | indigo, is it a rented server then? |
| 02:09.14 | indigo | brc_: yes, sadly |
| 02:09.14 | brc_ | oh |
| 02:09.16 | brc_ | why didn't you say so? |
| 02:09.24 | brc_ | they are required to give you the source iirc |
| 02:09.27 | Dr_Frankenstein | I have RH9 on my puter at home but not very familliar with it.... |
| 02:09.38 | brc_ | Dr_Frankenstein, debian > * |
| 02:09.39 | indigo | brc_: yeah, they are |
| 02:09.39 | brc_ | :) |
| 02:09.45 | drumkilla | Dr_Frankenstein: REALLY, it is up to you |
| 02:09.47 | indigo | brc_: i'm not sure that would fix it though |
| 02:09.54 | Dr_Frankenstein | I want to go totally Linux but I have to learn it from scratch |
| 02:09.56 | zamsler | I just chaecked out * from cvs and it does not run |
| 02:10.19 | drumkilla | if this is for production, use the stable branch |
| 02:10.20 | brc_ | indigo, if it's a rented server you really should be able to ask them to install the kernel sources and they should do it (for a fee most likely) |
| 02:10.23 | Dr_Frankenstein | thank you Drumkilla |
| 02:10.25 | drumkilla | ~asterisk 1.0 |
| 02:10.26 | jbot | hmm... asterisk stable is "cvs checkout -r v1-0 asterisk: ... also available on the ftp site at asterisk.org |
| 02:10.33 | brc_ | ~tell zamsler about asterisk stable |
| 02:10.43 | zamsler | yeah yeah |
| 02:11.02 | brc_ | zamsler, stable is now being actually maintained! (GO DRUMKILLA!) |
| 02:11.07 | drumkilla | :D |
| 02:11.10 | brc_ | bug fixes backported etc |
| 02:11.13 | zamsler | awesome |
| 02:11.16 | brc_ | yep |
| 02:11.19 | bkw_ | no backports.. just bug fixes boi |
| 02:11.21 | bkw_ | no new features |
| 02:11.29 | zamsler | <~~ likes features |
| 02:11.35 | drumkilla | well, the bugfixes are backported |
| 02:11.35 | Dr_Frankenstein | I'm so used to stupid MicroSoft that it is like learning a new language to run Linux but I hate MS enough that I want to be off of it asap |
| 02:12.13 | drumkilla | bkw_: THIS GUY RIGHT HERE! |
| 02:12.15 | brc_ | ~google debian-installer |
| 02:12.17 | brc_ | THIS GUY! |
| 02:12.26 | bkw_ | brc_ you were not there |
| 02:12.28 | brc_ | bkw_, who's your inspiration? |
| 02:12.28 | bkw_ | so you can't use that |
| 02:12.32 | brc_ | can so |
| 02:12.38 | slePP | nice. |
| 02:12.39 | slePP | CVS head uh |
| 02:12.41 | slePP | segfaults |
| 02:12.42 | *** kick/#asterisk [brc_!~brian@asterisk.bkw.org] by bkw_ (NO) |
| 02:12.47 | drumkilla | haha |
| 02:12.47 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (~john@brc.base.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:12.48 | brc_ | yes |
| 02:12.52 | *** kick/#asterisk [brc_!~brian@asterisk.bkw.org] by bkw_ (NO) |
| 02:12.56 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (~john@brc.base.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:12.57 | brc_ | yes |
| 02:12.58 | drumkilla | bkw_: you ain't right! |
| 02:12.58 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:13.03 | bkw_ | brc_ I still love ya |
| 02:13.09 | brc_ | slePP, and you are.....surprised by this? |
| 02:13.20 | slePP | it didn't yesterday :> |
| 02:13.20 | drumkilla | that's the cool thing about having a stable branch |
| 02:13.25 | drumkilla | CVS head is going to go crazy |
| 02:13.32 | brc_ | slePP, and?..... |
| 02:13.38 | brc_ | already has... |
| 02:13.41 | slePP | brc_, you're really dense sometimes... |
| 02:13.44 | drumkilla | yep |
| 02:13.49 | routerheads_atho | bkw_, any advice on how to get spc? Sipura says no. |
| 02:13.57 | bkw_ | routerheads_atho email them |
| 02:14.00 | bkw_ | god how hard is it |
| 02:14.05 | bkw_ | tell them you have 1k units to deploy |
| 02:14.09 | bkw_ | and you're job is to make it work |
| 02:14.11 | bkw_ | PLEASE SEND SPC |
| 02:14.19 | routerheads_atho | I did, it is only available to service providers and resellers |
| 02:14.20 | bkw_ | brc_ you're 17 |
| 02:14.25 | bkw_ | you have no place to tell anyone, anything |
| 02:14.28 | bkw_ | :) |
| 02:14.36 | *** part/#asterisk brc_ (~john@brc.base.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:14.39 | bkw_ | woops |
| 02:14.42 | bkw_ | I pissed him off again |
| 02:14.46 | drumkilla | hahaha |
| 02:14.47 | bkw_ | he's so sensitive |
| 02:14.47 | slePP | bkw_: i fixed app_dbodbc for the newest CVS head |
| 02:14.52 | bkw_ | slePP kewl |
| 02:14.54 | slePP | but, of course, the entire head is broken. |
| 02:14.55 | slePP | so.. yeah |
| 02:14.59 | drumkilla | good job, bkw_, way to set an example |
| 02:15.02 | bkw_ | he is not broken |
| 02:15.06 | mishehu | the server stopped giving head? |
| 02:15.06 | bkw_ | er head |
| 02:15.08 | bkw_ | i'm running it |
| 02:15.12 | bkw_ | as of 5 min ago |
| 02:15.13 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (~john@brc.base.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:15.13 | slePP | it segfaults on startup for me |
| 02:15.22 | bkw_ | make clean |
| 02:15.23 | slePP | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.23 | slePP | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.23 | slePP | Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested! |
| 02:15.23 | slePP | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 02:15.25 | *** join/#asterisk _mwoodj_ (~MWoodJ@hyper-eye.digium.sponsor.pdpc) |
| 02:15.31 | slePP | make clean && make update && make clean && make install |
| 02:15.38 | bkw_ | go rm your /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 02:15.42 | bkw_ | and try again |
| 02:15.48 | brc_ | ooo kram's CID stuff's in head now :) |
| 02:16.06 | mishehu | what's kram's CID stuff? |
| 02:16.10 | slePP | same deal, bklw |
| 02:16.16 | routerheads_atho | I guess I will have to redo my webpage so I am a service provider |
| 02:16.17 | brc_ | mishehu, see the -CVS list |
| 02:16.43 | Darwin35 | mpg123-59r-p16 bites |
| 02:16.43 | mishehu | brc_: that means I can't be lazy, and have to dl the cvs of asterisk... |
| 02:16.54 | slePP | noload => chan_sip.c |
| 02:16.54 | brc_ | mishehu, no no there is a CVS mailing list |
| 02:16.55 | slePP | life is now good |
| 02:16.55 | slePP | heh |
| 02:17.00 | brc_ | with changelogs |
| 02:17.05 | mishehu | oh the cvs list |
| 02:17.15 | brc_ | mishehu, http://asterisk.org/index.php?menu=support |
| 02:18.27 | slePP | bkw_: gonna have to rollback, methinks |
| 02:18.47 | denon | hmm .. is it a bug that SIP won't dial *67? |
| 02:19.16 | brc_ | uh |
| 02:19.21 | brc_ | details? |
| 02:20.55 | JerJer | YAY -> Remove IAX and VoFR channel drivers permenantly |
| 02:21.06 | brc_ | YAY! |
| 02:21.32 | slePP | k, now someone fix chan_sip ;> |
| 02:21.39 | mishehu | brc_: already looked thru it. the CID stuff is chinese to me... I never read the code for what is in current stable, so I don't know how this really changes anything. |
| 02:21.45 | kram | what's wrong with chan_sip? |
| 02:21.50 | slePP | it segfaults, kram |
| 02:21.52 | slePP | from cvs head |
| 02:22.04 | slePP | loads the module, 4 ppl register pretty quick, it segfaults |
| 02:22.32 | denon | brc: me details? If I pass it a *67, I get a 403 forbidden |
| 02:22.49 | kram | did you remember to "make clean ; make install" ? |
| 02:22.57 | kram | and also you might want to rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 02:23.16 | brc_ | denon, sounds like bug |
| 02:23.31 | denon | I dont want bugs, I just wanna get this working so I can go home |
| 02:23.37 | denon | hehe |
| 02:23.49 | JerJer | no soup for you |
| 02:23.59 | denon | I'd give anything to find someone who's used one of these sipura fxos |
| 02:24.05 | denon | (well, a cookie anyway) |
| 02:24.34 | denon | JerJer: yeah, literally .. wife called a few minutes ago, said she went ahead and ate without me .. |
| 02:25.26 | JerJer | lol |
| 02:25.42 | denon | cant figure out these silly sipura dialplans |
| 02:26.05 | denon | just need to slap a *67 on cause outbound on this trunk is a funky number |
| 02:26.13 | slePP | now if only i could solve this whole quality issue... |
| 02:26.19 | slePP | but i've got no idea wy it's being odd |
| 02:27.30 | *** join/#asterisk harryvetch (~none@S010600055d210201.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 02:27.37 | *** join/#asterisk mlh407 (~chatzilla@dsl093-001-038.det1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 02:28.12 | *** join/#asterisk asteriskFan (~lamang@222.126.30.59) |
| 02:28.35 | asteriskFan | who among you here knows how to setup SIP express router? |
| 02:28.58 | harryvetch | How much on average would a company save going with asterisk vs some commercial based pbx software? |
| 02:29.57 | cypromis | harryvetch: depends |
| 02:30.05 | cypromis | we just quoted for IVR against tenovis |
| 02:30.12 | harryvetch | how many nodes? |
| 02:30.16 | cypromis | onlyt the IVR option on tenovis was 400$ per channel .. |
| 02:30.22 | harryvetch | ports ect? |
| 02:30.40 | cypromis | nodes ? |
| 02:30.43 | cypromis | pure IVR |
| 02:30.48 | cypromis | 240 channels in a dual opteron |
| 02:31.24 | harryvetch | okay..now at least i know opterons. I know a little about telco but mostly lans and wan from cisco ect. What is a IVR? |
| 02:32.22 | mishehu | interactive voice response |
| 02:32.25 | mishehu | I believe |
| 02:32.26 | cypromis | Interactive Voice Response system |
| 02:34.04 | *** join/#asterisk asjoyner (~asjoyner@dargo.trilug.org) |
| 02:35.05 | brc_ | http://snurl.com/rcam_laptop_blue |
| 02:35.40 | indigo | hahah |
| 02:35.48 | indigo | i love how the demo dumps you if you don't do anything |
| 02:35.54 | brc_ | ? |
| 02:36.00 | indigo | "goodbye. now stop wasting bandwidth" |
| 02:36.15 | indigo | if you don't press any keys |
| 02:36.18 | slePP | i keep going to make phone calls |
| 02:36.21 | slePP | but i have no phone :P |
| 02:36.27 | brc_ | slePP wha happen? |
| 02:36.31 | indigo | of course, i can't press any keys because this sip client sucks |
| 02:36.34 | slePP | asterisk cvs head is borked |
| 02:36.37 | slePP | well, for me anyway |
| 02:36.40 | slePP | apparently not for anyone else |
| 02:36.49 | brc_ | use stable |
| 02:36.53 | brc_ | that's what it's there for :) |
| 02:36.55 | slePP | i refuse! |
| 02:37.50 | slePP | irq 19: 1021 wcfxo |
| 02:37.55 | slePP | i can't help but think something is wrong there |
| 02:38.10 | slePP | but that's not the box with present issues :> |
| 02:38.16 | brc_ | hey slePP |
| 02:38.17 | brc_ | http://spod.ca/channels/alt.linux/piespy_freenode/asterisk/asterisk-00003076.png |
| 02:38.23 | brc_ | It's semi-fixed |
| 02:38.29 | brc_ | not as squashed anymore |
| 02:38.44 | brc_ | need to tweek it a little more |
| 02:39.11 | *** join/#asterisk Docelm0 (~Docelm0@116-39.202-68.tampabay.rr.com) |
| 02:39.24 | slePP | heh |
| 02:39.25 | slePP | too many users |
| 02:39.47 | brc_ | nah |
| 02:39.52 | brc_ | I'll make the picture about 2 times bigger |
| 02:39.57 | brc_ | and increase the spacing |
| 02:41.10 | Docelm0 | Anyone know about the MSN client and SIP? How does it work? It just asks for a login nothing else.. |
| 02:41.29 | brc_ | BWHAHAHAHAH |
| 02:41.34 | brc_ | don't bother..... |
| 02:41.37 | brc_ | :) |
| 02:41.44 | Docelm0 | wasnt gonna.. Just curious |
| 02:41.59 | brc_ | you've gotta edit the reg n stuff |
| 02:42.14 | brc_ | it's not worth it...makes a lousy client even after you get it (semi) working |
| 02:42.42 | bkw_ | lallaa |
| 02:42.50 | *** join/#asterisk ali3nx (~compiled@wnpgmb11dc1-45-171-139.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 02:43.32 | Docelm0 | interesting.. |
| 02:43.38 | LennyT | kram, sent e-mail thx for taking a look when you can. |
| 02:43.42 | harryvetch | To understand this technoligy without breaking my budget might need to ask what cards I should work with. |
| 02:43.45 | brc_ | LennyT! |
| 02:44.00 | LennyT | hey brc.. |
| 02:44.03 | Docelm0 | Cards? |
| 02:44.22 | Docelm0 | You mean the FXO/FXS? |
| 02:45.22 | harryvetch | fxo im new at this. |
| 02:45.22 | harryvetch | :) |
| 02:45.31 | *** join/#asterisk billh1022 (~billh1022@dialppp29.chesco.com) |
| 02:45.53 | harryvetch | looking at some wildcards. |
| 02:46.27 | Docelm0 | The T400 is a nice choice. You can mix match your needs up to 4 however |
| 02:46.28 | brc_ | and? |
| 02:46.47 | harryvetch | cost per card? |
| 02:46.49 | brc_ | Docelm0, you mean the Te405p? |
| 02:46.55 | brc_ | harryvetch, see http://www.digium.com |
| 02:47.03 | Docelm0 | yes.. Look at there site.. |
| 02:47.08 | brc_ | harryvetch, what cards you need totally depends on what you want to do |
| 02:47.09 | LennyT | Actually the TDM400P ... |
| 02:47.17 | LennyT | TE405P is a T1/PRI card |
| 02:47.29 | Docelm0 | Ya what lenny said.. |
| 02:47.42 | LennyT | I have a TDM400P one FXO, 3 FXS |
| 02:47.45 | brc_ | harryvetch, do you wish to hook up analog devices (phone/fax) to your asterisk box? |
| 02:47.53 | brc_ | and or a analog line from your telephone company? |
| 02:50.38 | brc_ | ~ping |
| 02:50.39 | jbot | pong |
| 02:50.45 | harryvetch | well, if thats what a customer request yes. |
| 02:51.28 | slePP | someone show me the lspci -vvv on their wcfxo |
| 02:51.42 | brc_ | which card? |
| 02:51.53 | brc_ | er |
| 02:52.01 | slePP | x100p |
| 02:52.09 | scrubb | jbot: botsnack |
| 02:52.09 | jbot | thanks, scrubb |
| 02:52.44 | BuzzBud | I just get Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface :P |
| 02:52.54 | BuzzBud | on both the tdm400p and x100p |
| 02:52.55 | slePP | i want the rest of it :> |
| 02:53.05 | slePP | control/status/latency/interrupt/etc. |
| 02:53.07 | BuzzBud | o ;p |
| 02:55.44 | *** join/#asterisk CpuID2 (425@CPE-203-45-155-92.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 02:56.03 | CpuID2 | personal recommendations for a windows softphone anyone? |
| 02:56.10 | brc_ | ~xpro |
| 02:56.13 | brc_ | ~xten |
| 02:56.17 | CpuID2 | ive used x-lite, but it can get a bit annoying at times |
| 02:56.19 | BuzzBud | only ever used x-lite ;p |
| 02:56.22 | brc_ | http://www.xten.com |
| 02:56.24 | brc_ | get eyebeam |
| 02:56.28 | brc_ | eyebeam > xpro |
| 02:56.33 | CpuID2 | eyebeam hey, time to see |
| 02:56.35 | brc_ | they'll give you demo if you email |
| 02:56.45 | CpuID2 | interesting |
| 02:56.59 | BuzzBud | if your gona pay for a voip phone then buy a hardphone ;p |
| 02:57.06 | brc_ | ^^^^!!!!!!! |
| 02:57.09 | BuzzBud | !!! |
| 02:58.13 | CpuID2 | hehe, im gonna sometime soon |
| 02:58.26 | CpuID2 | im just messing with my headset until my digium card comes :) |
| 02:58.29 | CpuID2 | damn backorders :P |
| 02:58.54 | *** join/#asterisk WayneS (~wayne@209.248.115.70) |
| 02:59.41 | brc_ | ~farfon |
| 02:59.42 | jbot | hmm... farfon is http://farfon.com the only phone in the WORLD to be designed from the GROUND UP to be 110% IAX2 compatible |
| 03:01.28 | bkw_ | brc_ and the iaxy wasnt? |
| 03:01.51 | WayneS | Has anyone started working on a Genesys integration with *? |
| 03:02.31 | WayneS | I thought I read about a French group, but can't find it now... |
| 03:02.48 | bkw_ | RIIGHT like that matters |
| 03:03.37 | indigo | * says "No application 'MeetMe' for extension" ... is there something i must do to enable it? |
| 03:03.38 | billh1022 | Apparently * only uses on of the g726 compressions ... anyone know why and if the other will get added down the road ? |
| 03:04.03 | CpuID2 | from what i saw on digiums site, its the fxo modules that are backordered, anyone got any insight to backorder timeframes yet? |
| 03:05.09 | drumkilla | have you tried any resellers? |
| 03:05.14 | brc_ | CpuID2, they usually get some in pretty often...email them |
| 03:05.21 | brc_ | was just a few days when I ordered |
| 03:05.31 | CpuID2 | np, yea i only ordered like a day ago |
| 03:05.35 | BuzzBud | took 3weeks at voiptalk.org.... |
| 03:05.49 | CpuID2 | i didnt wanna email yet, i thought ill leave it a week or so and if they havent shipped by then ill email |
| 03:06.23 | CpuID2 | i havent tried any of the resellers, because i know the australian ones are gonna try sell me their other products too i bet |
| 03:06.29 | CpuID2 | thought id just order online direct from digium |
| 03:07.37 | drumkilla | CpuID2: what did you order? |
| 03:08.06 | harryvetch | Can the digital phone be programed to tell the difference between a local call and vo-ip one? or does asterisk take care of that. |
| 03:08.50 | CpuID2 | one of those dev kits, with one fxo and one fxs, i know it said for developers only, but thats my plan anyways |
| 03:09.02 | CpuID2 | learn the ins and outs of asterisk with it |
| 03:09.09 | drumkilla | awesome, well, give me a minute and i'll try to ask ... |
| 03:09.36 | CpuID2 | i think its just the fxo modules holding it back, because i checked which other products were backordered, so yea, probly just a shortage on those atm |
| 03:09.50 | drumkilla | CpuID2: sometime next week at the latest |
| 03:10.01 | CpuID2 | ah coo, where did this info come from btw :) |
| 03:10.08 | CpuID2 | thats fine anyways, im not in a rush for it really |
| 03:10.13 | drumkilla | from kram |
| 03:10.17 | drumkilla | i'm sitting right next to him |
| 03:10.26 | CpuID2 | whose kram anyway? he work for digium? |
| 03:10.40 | CpuID2 | ah, mark lol |
| 03:10.45 | billh1022 | kram is digium :) |
| 03:10.52 | drumkilla | :) |
| 03:11.03 | CpuID2 | tell mark he is god lol |
| 03:11.07 | drumkilla | haha |
| 03:11.13 | drumkilla | i tell him all the time |
| 03:11.18 | billh1022 | Ask him my g726 question ;) |
| 03:11.21 | CpuID2 | hehe, i bet hundreds of others do too |
| 03:11.35 | drumkilla | if not on a regular basis, he got some nice attention at Astricon |
| 03:11.46 | icebalm | if only god could give me a local DID so I could shed my telco |
| 03:11.52 | CpuID2 | if marks there, tell him he needs to get an iaxy with an fxo interface instead of an fxs going :) |
| 03:12.13 | CpuID2 | i know of 3 pstn lines at external locations we only use for adsl, that id love to route back here lol |
| 03:13.13 | CpuID2 | no rush, just a suggestion :) |
| 03:13.40 | CpuID2 | back soon ppls |
| 03:14.16 | CpuID2 | actually, wtf |
| 03:14.18 | CpuID2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.18 | CpuID2 | Yuck! Error in buffer handling...: Connection reset by peer |
| 03:14.18 | CpuID2 | Asterisk cleanly ending (2). |
| 03:14.32 | CpuID2 | thats whacked out, default gentoo ebuild :) |
| 03:15.11 | Docelm0 | are any of the slides released for Astricon yet? |
| 03:15.32 | drumkilla | someone needs to make a page on the wiki for Astricon materials |
| 03:15.39 | drumkilla | pictures, slides, etc |
| 03:15.41 | *** join/#asterisk nmkha (~nmkhaus@203.162.166.180) |
| 03:15.52 | drumkilla | instead of doing it, i'll just sit here and talk about how someone should do it |
| 03:16.21 | CpuID2 | :) |
| 03:16.30 | CpuID2 | haha, nah someone has to do it i guess |
| 03:16.38 | CpuID2 | i dont really feel like hosting anything on my work box atm lol |
| 03:16.51 | drumkilla | well, there is a wiki already |
| 03:16.58 | drumkilla | a page just needs to be created ... |
| 03:17.05 | CpuID2 | ya |
| 03:17.10 | drumkilla | you know what. i'll do it. i'm not doing much else important at the moment |
| 03:17.20 | CpuID2 | hehe, coo, let me check it once done |
| 03:17.28 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~mine@DSL-49-70.che.centurytel.net) |
| 03:17.56 | *** join/#asterisk gkar (~me@adsl-215-228-147.aep.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:18.07 | Sivana | Moc? you there? |
| 03:19.07 | Docelm0 | I want to get the slides for Track 3 on Using * in a large scale carrier environment |
| 03:20.10 | JerJer | attend the meeting |
| 03:21.04 | routerheads_atho | JerJer, can you help me with unlocking pap2? |
| 03:21.37 | JerJer | can i ? |
| 03:22.03 | routerheads_atho | Will you? I am unable to build the file that it is asking for |
| 03:22.17 | JerJer | that is the only tricky part |
| 03:22.25 | routerheads_atho | I tried to get SPC from sipura, but no luck |
| 03:22.33 | JerJer | why not? |
| 03:22.51 | routerheads_atho | They said only for service providers/resellers |
| 03:23.25 | JerJer | so you are researching becoming a service provider and want to make sure their devices are able to be automatically provisioned |
| 03:23.41 | brc_ | work the system baby |
| 03:24.26 | CpuID2 | whats the best way to disable mgcp with asterisk? |
| 03:24.31 | CpuID2 | its acting whack here |
| 03:24.36 | JerJer | noload => chan_mgcp.so |
| 03:24.37 | brc_ | modules.conf |
| 03:24.38 | JerJer | in modules.conf |
| 03:24.50 | mishehu | heh, if I have to buy 1k units to be able to buy any quantity of pap2-na's, cisco can bite my shiny metal ass. |
| 03:24.54 | CpuID2 | thought it would be something like that, thx |
| 03:25.52 | routerheads_atho | I told them we were doing proof of concept testing with their boxes and they did not bite. |
| 03:26.23 | CpuID2 | hmm, wtf, something isnt right here, im getting error in buffer handling - connection reset by peer, its doing that on zapata now |
| 03:26.35 | CpuID2 | it was doing it on mgcp beforehand |
| 03:26.47 | Sivana | what's a good synthesizer site? |
| 03:26.54 | *** join/#asterisk chap (chapster@woodstock.cleburne.com) |
| 03:27.11 | JerJer | routerheads_atho: did they tell you no? |
| 03:27.16 | JerJer | or simply have not responded |
| 03:27.59 | routerheads_atho | "Sipura will only provide this information to its service provider and Distributor partners " |
| 03:28.02 | scrubb | JerJer: so are you guys going to expand your offering area to IN anytime soon? |
| 03:28.10 | routerheads_atho | Directly form their e-mail |
| 03:28.16 | routerheads_atho | from |
| 03:28.44 | JerJer | scrubb: according to the legal department we are almost a CLEC in Indiana |
| 03:28.57 | JerJer | routerheads_atho: then you are a serivce provider in development |
| 03:29.07 | CpuID2 | ok something mustnt be right here, ima gonna recompile all my libs again |
| 03:29.09 | CpuID2 | whack as |
| 03:29.21 | JerJer | or they've locked down the distrubtuion of the spc on a request from Vonage |
| 03:29.22 | chap | JerJer: Congrats. I hear that process can be brutal. |
| 03:30.08 | JerJer | the one lawyer was actually swaring at some other stuffed suit guy one day |
| 03:30.18 | scrubb | JerJer: awesome, what kind of timeframe you thinking? next quarter, next year? |
| 03:30.19 | JerJer | so i don't even wana know how bad it is ;) |
| 03:31.11 | JerJer | Real Soon Now(tm) |
| 03:31.17 | scrubb | you guys have e911 worked out? |
| 03:31.41 | scrubb | If you think of it, let me know when you do get fired up in IN. |
| 03:31.59 | JerJer | IL will be online before IN |
| 03:32.12 | LennyT | I have JR's slides from Astricon 2004... http://www.rocksteady.com/astricon/ |
| 03:32.36 | drumkilla | cool |
| 03:32.48 | drumkilla | i'm trying to add links now |
| 03:33.03 | LennyT | my slides are there too. |
| 03:33.17 | drumkilla | awesome, thanks! |
| 03:33.27 | brc_ | yay |
| 03:34.46 | routerheads_atho | I wonder if they have locked it down, you wanna see the e-mail? They want quite a bit of info. |
| 03:35.11 | brc_ | http://pastebin.ca |
| 03:36.07 | Docelm0 | ok I was there jerjer.. But I would like them to have so I can refer to them.. Geesh.. Why do people in here have to be such asses.. |
| 03:36.47 | routerheads_atho | http://pastebin.ca/1200 |
| 03:36.59 | scrubb | night all |
| 03:37.37 | mishehu | JerJer: whats with IL, the land of the waving palm and licenses-for-bribes? |
| 03:37.51 | mishehu | you guys going to get some DIDs or something here? |
| 03:38.38 | CpuID2 | wb kram |
| 03:39.01 | brc_ | he isn't back |
| 03:39.05 | CpuID2 | lol |
| 03:39.06 | brc_ | that's just his bot |
| 03:39.09 | brc_ | to fool people |
| 03:39.11 | brc_ | no really |
| 03:39.14 | CpuID2 | go bot |
| 03:39.21 | CpuID2 | whatever :) |
| 03:39.29 | CpuID2 | im not about to bug him for help or anything, haha |
| 03:40.30 | brc_ | debian > gentoo debian forever! |
| 03:40.36 | CpuID2 | never! :) |
| 03:40.40 | CpuID2 | gentoo > * |
| 03:40.47 | CpuID2 | well, bsd > gentoo > * :) |
| 03:40.54 | epoch | what the |
| 03:40.58 | brc_ | you get what? a 0.0001201283% speed boost? |
| 03:40.59 | epoch | you're fired. debian > * |
| 03:41.01 | CpuID2 | hehe |
| 03:41.11 | brc_ | funrollloops! weeeeeeee! |
| 03:41.23 | CpuID2 | last i heard debian is never up to date with their versions of packages? always 1-2 versions behind, good for stability, not for dev |
| 03:41.32 | CpuID2 | thats just what i heard anyway :) |
| 03:41.40 | epoch | CpuID2: well, that's mostly wrong |
| 03:41.42 | slePP | gentoo is often way more behind than that |
| 03:41.42 | slePP | heh |
| 03:41.42 | drumkilla | gah, i hate distro flame wars ... it's the same stuff over and over |
| 03:41.46 | brc_ | oh oh and we can't forget --omg-optimized! |
| 03:41.52 | epoch | haha |
| 03:41.58 | CpuID2 | yea, personally i dont want a distro war, cant be bothered right now heh |
| 03:42.02 | brc_ | CpuID2, that is not correct |
| 03:42.06 | CpuID2 | ok np |
| 03:42.08 | epoch | CpuID2: either way, when is stability not a good thing? |
| 03:42.11 | CpuID2 | as i said, just what ive heard :) |
| 03:42.17 | CpuID2 | yea stability is good ill admit |
| 03:42.17 | brc_ | don't believe what you hear :) |
| 03:42.21 | drumkilla | brc_: take that to #gentoo, please |
| 03:42.27 | CpuID2 | hehe |
| 03:42.43 | epoch | oh also, I can piss farther than you |
| 03:42.48 | drumkilla | hahaha |
| 03:42.48 | CpuID2 | hahaha |
| 03:42.50 | *** part/#asterisk brc_ (~john@brc.base.supporter.pdpc) |
| 03:42.54 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (~john@brc.base.supporter.pdpc) |
| 03:43.07 | wolfson | can you change the format of the files monitor generates. would be nice if I could do gsm compression or something |
| 03:43.15 | brc_ | yes |
| 03:43.19 | brc_ | 'show application monitor' |
| 03:44.27 | drumkilla | ~astricon |
| 03:44.45 | brc_ | http://snurl.com/astricon_news I |
| 03:44.45 | wolfson | hmm, i just read that and missed it, sorry |
| 03:45.17 | brc_ | find it now? |
| 03:45.23 | wolfson | yes |
| 03:45.28 | wolfson | its clearly right there |
| 03:45.32 | brc_ | :) |
| 03:46.00 | drumkilla | jbot: astricon is a conference held in September 2004. Get pictures and presentations here: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Astricon+2004+media |
| 03:46.01 | jbot | okay, drumkilla |
| 03:46.10 | drumkilla | ~astricon |
| 03:46.11 | jbot | i heard astricon is a conference held in September 2004. Get pictures and presentations here: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Astricon+2004+media |
| 03:46.18 | CpuID2 | damnit, why do i get the feeling its because im using 2.6 with devfs that im getting these whack connection reset by peer errors |
| 03:46.39 | kram | drumkilla! |
| 03:46.45 | drumkilla | kram! |
| 03:46.52 | brc_ | brc_! |
| 03:46.57 | kram | :) |
| 03:46.58 | drumkilla | nobody likes you. |
| 03:47.00 | drumkilla | muahahaha |
| 03:47.01 | brc_ | oh right |
| 03:47.03 | drumkilla | (kidding) |
| 03:47.04 | file | ahhhhhhhhhhh I'm alive |
| 03:47.04 | brc_ | I forgot |
| 03:47.06 | kram | i like brc |
| 03:47.07 | kram | and file |
| 03:47.10 | kram | i mentioned them at astricon |
| 03:47.39 | file | ugh Jones Soda is sweet |
| 03:47.45 | file | almost... too sweet! |
| 03:48.07 | drumkilla | hehe |
| 03:48.14 | kram | we have more lovin' in asterisk than most projects |
| 03:48.23 | kram | bkw_ where's that picture of all of the developers piled up on the bed? |
| 03:48.32 | drumkilla | yeah, that needs to get to the wiki. |
| 03:49.21 | CpuID2 | haha |
| 03:49.22 | mishehu | kram: uhm, that's just wrong |
| 03:49.23 | mishehu | heh |
| 03:49.28 | drumkilla | haha |
| 03:49.29 | kram | you had to be there |
| 03:49.35 | drumkilla | yeah, it wasn't that bad |
| 03:49.43 | kram | it was the night bkw_ was so drunk he kept retransmitting himself |
| 03:49.43 | drumkilla | it was just funny |
| 03:49.46 | kram | i mean repeating himself |
| 03:49.47 | mishehu | throw in a bunch of naked chicks and I'd have been there |
| 03:49.56 | drumkilla | and kram said "even IAX times out ... " |
| 03:50.00 | CpuID2 | lol who got chicks wearing digium shirts there :) |
| 03:50.02 | kram | this wasn't that kind of everyone piling in a bed |
| 03:50.10 | kram | we have some girls at digium |
| 03:50.10 | kram | nancy |
| 03:50.12 | kram | judy |
| 03:50.13 | kram | angela |
| 03:50.16 | kram | beth (who didn't come) |
| 03:50.32 | CpuID2 | mmm php agi |
| 03:50.57 | *** join/#asterisk paulc (paulc@S010600062586a0b4.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 03:50.57 | drumkilla | angler: awesome. don't hold anything back, either! |
| 03:51.00 | drumkilla | i'm sure you got some good ones |
| 03:51.02 | file | ahhhhhhhhhhh paulc! |
| 03:51.10 | mishehu | they got a lot of moose penis in the bed pile-on |
| 03:51.13 | paulc | hiya |
| 03:51.17 | paulc | got your PAP2? |
| 03:51.20 | file | yup |
| 03:51.23 | paulc | YAY! |
| 03:51.26 | file | it rocks. |
| 03:51.31 | paulc | I got a Sipura 3000 on the way allegedly |
| 03:51.31 | mishehu | I want a pap2 that I don't have to fuck around with to get it to work. |
| 03:51.33 | paulc | you love it? |
| 03:51.39 | file | yup |
| 03:51.41 | paulc | mishehu: problems? |
| 03:51.45 | angler | drumkilla, lol.. whatever |
| 03:52.21 | LennyT | pap2-na seems out of stock everywhere. |
| 03:52.28 | brc_ | file |
| 03:52.45 | Docelm0 | No.. Linksys pulled it from the shelves cause of vonage |
| 03:52.54 | CpuID2 | http://photos.tropiano.org/gallery/astricon-2004-2/IMG_0002 - thats a real trade show, where every second person has their lappy open sitting down |
| 03:52.54 | CpuID2 | :) |
| 03:53.00 | mishehu | paulc: I didn't know it was going to connect to vonage before it was too late, and I returned it to fry's. I don't feel like going back to get another one, trying to reset it before plugging it in the network, and fucking it up so I have to return another... |
| 03:53.14 | LennyT | all fighting for the one wap :) |
| 03:53.28 | LennyT | docelm0 that sucks |
| 03:53.29 | Docelm0 | Yep.. thats us.. |
| 03:53.40 | CpuID2 | haha |
| 03:53.47 | Docelm0 | Lenny I remember seeing you there |
| 03:53.55 | paulc | yeah mishehu, hassle innit.. |
| 03:53.59 | Docelm0 | 2005 is europe BABY! |
| 03:54.12 | mishehu | the next astricon better NOT be during the jewish new year |
| 03:54.15 | file | spring one is, fall one is Atlanta again supposedly |
| 03:54.26 | mishehu | of course, it'd be nice if it was in chicago too |
| 03:54.28 | Docelm0 | there's 2 of them? |
| 03:54.40 | file | oh no, I've run over Shatner! |
| 03:54.56 | brc_ | YAAC |
| 03:54.56 | mishehu | file: no more lousy commercials from him |
| 03:55.02 | LennyT | docelm0 thx. |
| 03:55.02 | paulc | I want Canada YAAC |
| 03:55.14 | brc_ | sure |
| 03:55.19 | brc_ | after vegas YAAC |
| 03:55.20 | Docelm0 | lenny for what? |
| 03:55.26 | LennyT | for remembering ;) |
| 03:55.40 | chap | shatner really put on weight over the years. Interesting thing is, even during the Star Trek shows/movies, he wore a belt to pull his gut in. |
| 03:55.52 | brc_ | file your client is broken |
| 03:55.58 | Docelm0 | I remember the faces.. Thats about it.. |
| 03:59.13 | file | I wonder if Fedex will be nice and leave a package if I leave a note too like UPS |
| 03:59.55 | brc_ | file? |
| 04:01.38 | paulc | I love FedEx.. |
| 04:01.39 | paulc | like LOVE them |
| 04:02.03 | paulc | apart from one time (don't try and ship cologne as part of a bath'n'shower gift set - it's considered a DANGEROUS GOOD) |
| 04:02.12 | kram | anybody doing some prompts anytime soon? |
| 04:02.51 | CpuID2 | prompts? |
| 04:03.17 | paulc | I think bkw said he was trying to get an hours worth of work put together for Allison |
| 04:05.43 | brc_ | oh? |
| 04:06.27 | *** join/#asterisk _santiago_ (~santiago@63.245.86.113) |
| 04:13.46 | slePP | kram: me |
| 04:14.05 | *** join/#asterisk abombss (~abombss@c-67-163-3-0.client.comcast.net) |
| 04:14.26 | kram | slepp: if you're doing prompts there are a few bugs in the bug tracker that need them |
| 04:14.46 | slePP | hrm, well.. i'm guesisng allison needs to do those ones? |
| 04:15.51 | *** join/#asterisk af_ (~af@62.94.148.227) |
| 04:17.04 | kram | oh heh |
| 04:17.04 | kram | yes |
| 04:17.15 | af_ | moin all |
| 04:18.10 | slePP | then i'm not doing any, no :> |
| 04:20.28 | *** join/#asterisk erik___ (~erik@pcp03568425pcs.hlsdle01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:26.57 | CpuID2 | ok redhat is officially gay |
| 04:28.06 | *** join/#asterisk derrick_ (~derrick@blinky-lights.org) |
| 04:28.06 | Docelm0 | Fedora is |
| 04:28.45 | redder86 | CpuID2: redhat the company is gay or the os? |
| 04:29.12 | Docelm0 | Anyone in here thats alive.. Are you buy chance using XVOIP.com? |
| 04:29.27 | Docelm0 | to terminate? |
| 04:29.35 | CpuID2 | the os, lol |
| 04:29.37 | redder86 | no |
| 04:29.46 | CpuID2 | well, both actually heh |
| 04:30.00 | CpuID2 | for starters, who sells linux |
| 04:30.04 | redder86 | CpuID2: I'm no RedHat zealot, but I've not had many complaints with the distro... but yes with the company |
| 04:30.16 | CpuID2 | personally rpms are hell |
| 04:30.30 | redder86 | CpuID2: especially when you don't understand them, yes |
| 04:30.44 | CpuID2 | everythings always everywhere, never can get the right dep versions, easier to just compile your deps from source using latest versions ffs |
| 04:30.47 | Docelm0 | I dont have any problem with Redhat.. Been using it since version 2 |
| 04:31.23 | erik___ | can anybody help me with a sipura 3000/asterisk/voicepulse connect setup? |
| 04:31.25 | redder86 | CpuID2: dependencies are something that comes with the territory of a binary distribution, it's not limited to RedHat |
| 04:31.30 | Docelm0 | actually I think I may still have it layign around somewhere |
| 04:31.51 | _santiago_ | I used RedHat, until I found Debian |
| 04:32.00 | CpuID2 | point taken |
| 04:32.08 | CpuID2 | the reason i like gentoo i guess :) source distro |
| 04:32.09 | *** join/#asterisk outtolunc (~chatzilla@adsl-69-110-11-250.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 04:32.18 | Docelm0 | I like debian. But I wanna learn gentoo |
| 04:32.19 | CpuID2 | anyways, no more distro wars here |
| 04:32.26 | CpuID2 | :) |
| 04:32.31 | CpuID2 | or kram for that matter |
| 04:32.42 | redder86 | Debian is nice... if a bit steeper with entry-level skill requirements. |
| 04:32.44 | Docelm0 | why would that upset them? |
| 04:32.56 | CpuID2 | hehe, he got a lil annoyed before i nearly started some distro war here i think |
| 04:32.58 | CpuID2 | all good |
| 04:33.06 | Docelm0 | hehe.. |
| 04:33.29 | Docelm0 | how did you just FIND it/ |
| 04:33.45 | CpuID2 | lol, i was just trying to ssh into the boxes ive got turned on at work still |
| 04:33.57 | CpuID2 | and see what was on each, found a customers one running gentoo with a 2.4 kernel :) |
| 04:34.02 | redder86 | there's a magical room, filled with computers, each running random distros and kernels |
| 04:34.03 | CpuID2 | dont feel like going to work to setup a dedicated one atm |
| 04:34.06 | CpuID2 | haha, yes :) |
| 04:34.08 | CpuID2 | thats the one lol j/k |
| 04:34.11 | Docelm0 | Where do you work? computer store? |
| 04:34.46 | redder86 | one should have at least a half-dozen computers at home |
| 04:35.14 | Docelm0 | I have 7 now.. 2 laptops and a slue of desktops.. Not to mention all of my servers.. :) |
| 04:35.22 | redder86 | ... one to run the toaster... one to run the lights... one to make a noise when someone pushes the doorbell... |
| 04:35.47 | redder86 | they make great space heaters in the winter |
| 04:35.57 | CpuID2 | is* |
| 04:36.02 | CpuID2 | lol dont start on pc's as heaters |
| 04:36.11 | Docelm0 | Um, not in Florida.. |
| 04:36.12 | CpuID2 | i remember having like 4 old p/p2 pc's on :) |
| 04:36.23 | CpuID2 | and im on the gold coast, in australia |
| 04:36.40 | CpuID2 | 4 pcs in a low ventilated room with a 2degreesC temp outside... :) |
| 04:36.49 | Docelm0 | Really? I have a office down there.. Well melburne |
| 04:36.54 | CpuID2 | ah yea |
| 04:37.12 | CpuID2 | i work for a company that does wireless computer networking, as well as webhosting for some extra cash |
| 04:37.18 | CpuID2 | so i mainly do the dev work |
| 04:37.37 | Docelm0 | Whats your dev flavor? |
| 04:37.43 | CpuID2 | me? gentoo personally |
| 04:37.58 | Docelm0 | No I mean programming languages.. |
| 04:38.09 | CpuID2 | ah |
| 04:38.11 | Docelm0 | crap.. I have to be up in 5 horus... Im outa here.. cya tomorrow all.. |
| 04:38.23 | CpuID2 | np, well mainly php, most of the stuff i do is web based |
| 04:38.36 | CpuID2 | but ive found myself writing a lotta php based cli scripts the past year too |
| 04:38.41 | CpuID2 | suffices well for my needs |
| 04:38.54 | rene- | what does the "requires authorization" restriction means for soundpoint Ip 300 phones |
| 04:39.14 | CpuID2 | np cya Docelm0 |
| 04:39.30 | CpuID2 | ack, so what do i get with asterisk on this 2.4 box, zaptel compile errors |
| 04:39.58 | CpuID2 | seems related to kernel smp support *shrugs* |
| 04:40.50 | CpuID2 | http://www.pastebin.com/106625 |
| 04:40.54 | abombss | is anyone running gentoo 2.6 kernel? |
| 04:40.55 | CpuID2 | inserted it into php tags, meh |
| 04:41.00 | CpuID2 | abombss: yea i am, how come? |
| 04:41.10 | abombss | does meetme work? |
| 04:41.25 | CpuID2 | meetme, ive heard of that, what is it again? |
| 04:41.44 | abombss | CpuID2, its the conferencing app? |
| 04:41.51 | CpuID2 | oh, is it in portage? |
| 04:41.55 | outtolunc | looks like you got 2 smp.h 's in the path |
| 04:41.57 | CpuID2 | i havent used it here i dont think |
| 04:42.19 | CpuID2 | outtolunc: ya, 2 declarations, lemme try find where |
| 04:42.24 | abombss | CpuID2, its part of the asterisk ebuild. I have issues on 2.6 with it, works fine on 2.4 |
| 04:42.37 | CpuID2 | actually, it says there i think |
| 04:42.45 | outtolunc | you got some off and ./asm/ |
| 04:42.51 | outtolunc | er and=an |
| 04:42.53 | CpuID2 | abombss: well you know asterisk, well i think zaptel mainly, with 2.6 has issues |
| 04:42.59 | CpuID2 | unless your using udev |
| 04:43.25 | abombss | CpuID2, yeah I know... I am still using devfs |
| 04:43.35 | outtolunc | meetme is a conferencing app |
| 04:43.43 | CpuID2 | is that the issue maybe? |
| 04:44.00 | CpuID2 | i dont know the asterisk internals enough to give a decent answer there really |
| 04:44.06 | outtolunc | CpuID2: has nothing to do with your issue |
| 04:44.35 | abombss | CpuID2, maybe.. just curious if anyone else out there is running it succesfully. |
| 04:44.36 | CpuID2 | ya i know |
| 04:44.44 | CpuID2 | nah, sorry not here |
| 04:48.35 | CpuID2 | hrm, i wonder if everyone with an smp built 2.4 kernel gets that issue i had |
| 04:48.45 | CpuID2 | cant see a bug in the gentoo bugzilla about it tho |
| 04:48.58 | CpuID2 | arrg, stuff it, im gonna do this later on |
| 04:49.08 | CpuID2 | gotta goto gf's house tonight |
| 04:51.02 | tzanger | Sivana: around? |
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| 04:59.00 | Sivana | ya.. hehe |
| 04:59.45 | slePP | my ping time to my router sometimes hits 245ms |
| 04:59.47 | slePP | interesting |
| 05:00.20 | slePP | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.397/1.786/221.761/11.878 ms, pipe 9 |
| 05:01.03 | epoch | hrm... if I dial my cellphone with Dial(), asterisk tells me it's been answered immediately |
| 05:01.03 | Sivana | on the same lan? |
| 05:01.07 | epoch | is this normal? |
| 05:01.24 | epoch | I would've expected it to say "Zap/1-1 is ringing" or something like that first |
| 05:01.33 | Sivana | ya.. usually |
| 05:01.34 | Sivana | interesting |
| 05:01.48 | *** join/#asterisk Moc (~mochouina@modemcable021.49-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:01.51 | paulc | wonder if your cell co is answering the line and providing phantom ringing... = chargeable call... = BAD. |
| 05:01.56 | Moc | hi all |
| 05:02.08 | epoch | does it for both my cellphones too. unfortunately I have no landline to test it with ;/ |
| 05:02.38 | Sivana | ya.. that would be crooked if they are |
| 05:02.49 | epoch | well it's 2 different providers |
| 05:02.55 | infinii | Good evening. |
| 05:03.19 | paulc | Hey Moc :) |
| 05:03.23 | infinii | Anyone have patience to answer my n00b questions? |
| 05:03.30 | paulc | infinii: Go for it :) |
| 05:03.36 | infinii | Paulc :) |
| 05:04.01 | infinii | I have very limited knowledge of telecom. I worked on one cti project so I know what acds, ivr, pbx are |
| 05:04.21 | infinii | But still, the asterisk docs are a bit overwhelming with all the acronyms |
| 05:04.45 | infinii | Simple question, is it true I can get rid of my phone service using * ? |
| 05:04.47 | drumkilla | it's a lot to absorb |
| 05:04.52 | Moc | infinii, yes |
| 05:04.58 | epoch | infinii: yes, and no |
| 05:05.03 | Sivana | with cable |
| 05:05.04 | epoch | infinii: depending on what you mean |
| 05:05.05 | drumkilla | get rid of it? depends on how you define phone service ... |
| 05:05.06 | Moc | using a Voip provider and internet (high speed) |
| 05:05.08 | infinii | Moc: using just a computer, inteernet connection ethernet phones? |
| 05:05.09 | paulc | infinii: yes - technically it's possible, but it's not always feasible. |
| 05:05.12 | Moc | and yes cable.. ;) |
| 05:05.20 | Sivana | if you have DSL.. then no |
| 05:05.25 | Moc | DSL provider force you to keep your phone line ... |
| 05:05.28 | infinii | ahhh so voip provider sounds like it costs $$ |
| 05:05.38 | drumkilla | infinii: yes, of course |
| 05:05.39 | epoch | well yes |
| 05:05.44 | drumkilla | if you want PSTN termination |
| 05:05.47 | Sivana | it is less expensive though |
| 05:05.51 | epoch | if you want to be able to make calls to the PSTN, you gotta pay ;) |
| 05:05.56 | infinii | ok |
| 05:05.57 | Moc | infinii, depending how the volume of call you make |
| 05:06.04 | outtolunc | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.06 | infinii | Moc: for residence so not much |
| 05:06.13 | Moc | how many minutes of incoming/outgoing call you make per month ? |
| 05:06.26 | drumkilla | infinii: i'll over you US48 service for 10 cents a minute :) |
| 05:06.27 | epoch | less expensive, but also less reliable (in some situations) |
| 05:06.29 | Sivana | if you're on cable internet, then it's probably more cost effective to go with VoIP |
| 05:06.29 | epoch | also, no 911 |
| 05:06.36 | Sivana | yes |
| 05:06.41 | Moc | yes no 911, or 1976 access ;) |
| 05:06.42 | infinii | 10c a min is what I pay for long distance charges. that's $$ |
| 05:06.56 | drumkilla | yeah, i was just kidding |
| 05:06.57 | Sivana | how much you make a month? |
| 05:06.57 | redder86 | 10c per minute !?! |
| 05:06.59 | paulc | infinii: 10c/min for LD? Where are you?! |
| 05:06.59 | Moc | infinii, how many minutes of call, local or Long distance you make a month ? |
| 05:07.00 | Sivana | in LD |
| 05:07.16 | infinii | Moc: hard to say. never checked my home line usage |
| 05:07.24 | Moc | infinii, give me a guess |
| 05:07.25 | drumkilla | nufone.net ---> 2 cents / minute |
| 05:07.36 | infinii | moc: let's say 400min |
| 05:07.41 | Moc | infinii, in VoIP world, you need to talk in US dollards btw ;) |
| 05:07.47 | redder86 | where is "LD" ? |
| 05:07.47 | infinii | hehe |
| 05:07.59 | Sivana | redder86: LD = Long Distance |
| 05:08.05 | infinii | my CDN dollar is almost as much as ur USD ;P |
| 05:08.09 | infinii | getting there |
| 05:08.14 | Sivana | almost :) |
| 05:08.15 | Moc | infinii, Im canadian too ;) |
| 05:08.16 | epoch | ooh, this is working better when I call from a PRI! |
| 05:08.18 | Sivana | me too |
| 05:08.23 | Moc | there is alot of canadian user |
| 05:08.25 | epoch | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.27 | epoch | booyah |
| 05:08.29 | Sivana | hehe |
| 05:08.34 | Moc | it like a ratio of near 1/1 ;) |
| 05:08.35 | epoch | infinii: if you're in Canada, check out www.babytel.ca |
| 05:08.47 | Sivana | or www.voctel.com ;) |
| 05:08.50 | infinii | I found an * livecd today but it's only like 35MB. Does this cd boot right into linux+* ? |
| 05:08.52 | Moc | epoch: I dont like babytel |
| 05:08.53 | epoch | voctel.com eh |
| 05:08.59 | epoch | Moc: howcome? |
| 05:09.29 | Moc | I had bad experience, high ping, and low audio quality :/ |
| 05:09.35 | Moc | and I didn't like their SIP switch hehe |
| 05:09.40 | epoch | Moc: hrm, yeah, I ha some bad voice quality too |
| 05:09.47 | epoch | and their SIP setup is weak sauce |
| 05:10.04 | epoch | but I liked their tech support guys, they were super helpful |
| 05:10.13 | infinii | Man those cisco 7490 phones are expensive. What do you guys recommend as a starter? gulfstream? |
| 05:10.15 | redder86 | Are there any VoIP service providers that offer toll-free numbers that have cid*number AND cid*name on them? NuFone only seems to support cid*number on the toll-free DIDs. |
| 05:10.32 | Sivana | infinii: home phone.. Grandstream probably |
| 05:10.33 | epoch | Contrary to your previous experiences with VoIP, most likely over dialup connections, today's residential broadband connections are fast enough to allow VocTel to deliver service that offers audio quality that is equal to or even better than your traditional phone! |
| 05:10.37 | epoch | what the deuce |
| 05:10.39 | Moc | infinii, VERY GOOD VoIP phone, better than 7960/7940, would be Polycom Soundpoint IP 500 |
| 05:10.41 | epoch | who makes VoIP calls over dialup!? |
| 05:10.54 | epoch | yeah, I second the polycom motion |
| 05:11.04 | epoch | and if you don't need speakerphone, the IP300 is the same |
| 05:11.06 | Sivana | in the net2phone days |
| 05:11.07 | Sivana | lol |
| 05:11.11 | epoch | (afaik) |
| 05:11.17 | redder86 | I tested VoIP over dialup once. The audio was intelligible, but quite broken-up. |
| 05:11.23 | Sivana | ya |
| 05:11.36 | Moc | epoch, I was SOO impress of the polycom phone... I got 7960 and polycom, and I dont use the 7960 anymore hehe |
| 05:11.39 | epoch | oh shit, voctel is SIP eh |
| 05:11.42 | Sivana | wonder what net2phone is doing these days.. not hangin in the spotlights |
| 05:11.48 | epoch | Moc: I use a 7960 at home, and an ip500 at work |
| 05:11.50 | Sivana | or IAX2 |
| 05:11.57 | epoch | Sivana: _really_ |
| 05:12.01 | Moc | checkout moctel.com ;) |
| 05:12.03 | epoch | fuck, I should sign up |
| 05:12.04 | Sivana | hehe |
| 05:12.05 | Moc | ok ok I need to update it hehe |
| 05:12.17 | epoch | damnit Sivana |
| 05:12.25 | epoch | why didn't you tell me about these guys like a month ago? ;) |
| 05:12.30 | Sivana | lol |
| 05:12.53 | Moc | I got a VERY NICE Canadian Voip provider... VERY CHEAP... |
| 05:13.01 | paulc | Moc: Who? |
| 05:13.05 | epoch | yeah, who? |
| 05:13.05 | Moc | lookieloo |
| 05:13.15 | epoch | that sounds like something I'd say when drunk |
| 05:13.18 | paulc | ah yes.. heard of 'em.. any good? I thikn they've got 604 DIDs too :) |
| 05:13.43 | Moc | they got a few DID in canada, and alot of DID in the US (like 1200 NPANXX) |
| 05:13.48 | infinii | So what can I do with * if I don't have a voip provider? (I'm cheap and want to play with it first) |
| 05:14.04 | Moc | rate is 0.0065$/min incoming, and 0.007$/min outgoing |
| 05:14.07 | infinii | ie. am I able to make outgoing calls? |
| 05:14.29 | Moc | infinii, call other IAxtel user, or call * conference, or call FWD (Free world Dialup) user |
| 05:14.40 | Moc | and DIDs are 2$ |
| 05:15.20 | denon | Moc: their website is loading so slow, I dont think I'd dare use their termination service |
| 05:15.26 | infinii | yikes. that polycom ip500 is expensive |
| 05:15.34 | Moc | infinii, it just 240$ |
| 05:15.36 | Moc | CND |
| 05:15.37 | infinii | *just* |
| 05:15.46 | Moc | cheapo boy.. |
| 05:15.55 | infinii | I have a baby to feed |
| 05:15.59 | Moc | get the PAP2 then from linksys for 70$ something |
| 05:16.09 | Moc | you can connect any standards phone to it |
| 05:16.10 | denon | in fact, lookieloo.ca isnt loading at all |
| 05:16.13 | paulc | Moc.. I'm checking out their website now.. I had some guy I was talking to the other day giving me 604 DIDs for 2.95/month and 0.007/min inbound, US$ |
| 05:16.23 | Moc | it load over here |
| 05:16.48 | infinii | loads for me too |
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| 05:17.44 | infinii | I'm guessing most of these voip providers are fairly new companies. Aren't you worried about dropping local service and relying on these guys? |
| 05:17.46 | Moc | anyway gota sleep.... Working tomorow |
| 05:17.47 | hmodes | blarghen |
| 05:17.57 | brc_ | hi ya |
| 05:18.06 | infinii | espcially considering most of you are looking for cheapest service and you know what that gets you alot of times |
| 05:18.06 | Sivana | infinii: take the leap :) |
| 05:18.16 | brc_ | ~nufone |
| 05:18.17 | jbot | well, nufone is Visit http://www.nufone.net for an excellent, native IAX termination service. |
| 05:18.17 | Moc | infinii, ;) get primus then ... ;) |
| 05:18.27 | brc_ | nufone. |
| 05:18.41 | infinii | hrm. I'd have to switch to cable though and I hate rogers |
| 05:18.44 | _santiago_ | hi |
| 05:18.47 | Moc | Nufone is good for termination, there is cheaper, but quality is very good.. but no canadian service really :( |
| 05:19.07 | infinii | I'm paying %62cdn/mth for phone service + 3 features and 3MB dsl |
| 05:19.11 | Moc | they had canadian 1800 at one point, but dropped it |
| 05:19.23 | Moc | infinii, your stuck to have a line for a DSL line |
| 05:19.29 | paulc | infinii: where are you? |
| 05:19.33 | Sivana | canada toll-free sucks.. no matter where you get it |
| 05:19.35 | _santiago_ | i'm making the man pages for ztcfg, zttool and zmonitor, i haven't found much doc about them |
| 05:19.35 | infinii | paulc: toronto |
| 05:19.43 | Sivana | toll-free database is kept in US :| |
| 05:19.44 | Moc | Sivana, nufone toll free is great... |
| 05:19.48 | Sivana | yes |
| 05:19.53 | Sivana | US inbound only though |
| 05:20.00 | _santiago_ | and i would like that someone check them. |
| 05:20.09 | Moc | I had one with nufone at one point witch work from canada.. |
| 05:20.19 | Moc | I got lucky.. I should have ordered more hehe |
| 05:20.19 | Sivana | 10c/min ? |
| 05:20.23 | Moc | 2.9cent/min |
| 05:20.28 | Sivana | that's good |
| 05:20.30 | Moc | yea |
| 05:20.31 | Sivana | they can't do that rate now |
| 05:20.37 | Moc | i know :( |
| 05:20.49 | Sivana | that's what I mean... Bell is giving 50c/10min block |
| 05:21.09 | Sivana | I don't think canadian providers can buy them cheap enough to resell at par |
| 05:21.24 | _santiago_ | http://www.avatar.com.co/santiago/debian/ztmonitor.8 |
| 05:21.28 | _santiago_ | http://www.avatar.com.co/santiago/debian/ztcfg.8 |
| 05:21.29 | Moc | Well we will see, VoIP gonna make the price lower for PSTN stuff too.. |
| 05:21.38 | Sivana | ya.. in due time I guess |
| 05:21.46 | _santiago_ | http://www.avatar.com.co/santiago/debian/zttool.8 |
| 05:21.50 | Himeko | buy what cheap enough? |
| 05:21.58 | Sivana | toll-free dids |
| 05:22.03 | Moc | voip make sence since a old Copper line that have being payed 400 time still cost 20$/month.. and pay for options ??? that cost them more to desactivate.. |
| 05:22.03 | Himeko | oh |
| 05:22.11 | Himeko | havne't looked into that |
| 05:22.19 | Sivana | the numbers are maintain by the US.. so there's already a cost disadvantage |
| 05:22.41 | Moc | well It just a matter of routting.. |
| 05:22.49 | Sivana | lol.. ya.. Bell wanted to charge me $99 to move from Centrex to Basic line |
| 05:22.53 | Moc | just someone who want to keep control |
| 05:23.17 | Sivana | ya.. we need to be able to buy toll-free dids cheaper |
| 05:23.20 | Moc | well.. ok really sleep now.. I want to wake up early |
| 05:23.22 | epoch | ok yeah, this is fucked up. when I call my cellphone from an FXO, it thinks it's answered immediately |
| 05:23.34 | epoch | when I call it from a PRI channel though, it rings properly |
| 05:23.37 | Sivana | then phantom ring? |
| 05:23.47 | epoch | that's what it looks like yeah |
| 05:23.55 | Sivana | oh.. the FXO is tricking? |
| 05:24.01 | epoch | looks like it |
| 05:24.02 | Sivana | not the telco |
| 05:24.09 | brc_ | _santiago_, nice job |
| 05:24.14 | epoch | well it could be the telco |
| 05:24.14 | Moc | Sivana, well at 2.9cent, I can do 11 hours of call on my 1800 for 25$CND.. |
| 05:24.26 | epoch | bell provides the lines in my fxos |
| 05:24.27 | Sivana | you're lucky you got it when you did |
| 05:24.30 | _santiago_ | brc_, thanks |
| 05:24.35 | Moc | it will come that all DID will be toll free... |
| 05:24.43 | Sivana | I haven't found any CDN provider cheaper than 5c/min |
| 05:24.45 | brc_ | _santiago_, are you going to submit them to bugs.digium.com? |
| 05:25.04 | Sivana | NuFone wants 10c/min USD |
| 05:25.06 | Moc | Sivana, well with my 1800 with nufone i mean |
| 05:25.08 | _santiago_ | brc_, yes, i want to maintain zaptel in debian |
| 05:25.17 | brc_ | great! |
| 05:25.18 | Sivana | Bell wants 50c/10 min block |
| 05:25.21 | Moc | ok.. the old tarrif |
| 05:25.27 | Sivana | lucky you :) |
| 05:25.36 | Moc | oh yes.. |
| 05:25.43 | brc_ | _santiago_, do you have .deb's yet? |
| 05:25.44 | Moc | and it a 1-800 also .. |
| 05:25.48 | Sivana | :P |
| 05:25.51 | Sivana | hehe |
| 05:25.52 | Moc | not 877 or .. |
| 05:26.02 | brc_ | 866 |
| 05:26.08 | _santiago_ | brc_, I've started with zapata, and now I making the zatpel ones |
| 05:26.19 | Moc | ok sleep now.... talk to ya all tomorow night |
| 05:26.25 | Sivana | you should have ordered a bunch and resold it for 3.5 |
| 05:26.30 | infinii | ok, time to update this gentoo box so I can consider installing * |
| 05:26.32 | Moc | yes I should have :( |
| 05:26.47 | Moc | infinii, damn waste of time |
| 05:26.50 | infinii | ? |
| 05:26.51 | brc_ | zaptel more or less == zapada |
| 05:26.58 | Moc | gentoo that is... |
| 05:27.03 | Sivana | hehe |
| 05:27.06 | infinii | moc: is there a livecd with * working on it already? |
| 05:27.18 | Moc | maybe, but * get updated dailly hehe |
| 05:27.21 | infinii | wow that would be cool. something like knoppix with * outta box |
| 05:27.31 | epoch | I think there is |
| 05:27.35 | epoch | but I don't see what the point is |
| 05:27.39 | Moc | well infinii, it easy to install |
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| 05:27.47 | epoch | who's gonna want to use * without modifying the configs? |
| 05:27.48 | infinii | epoch: I saw an * livecd but it was too small to have a linxu dist on it, only 35MB |
| 05:27.54 | infinii | Moc: what dist do you use? |
| 05:27.54 | brc_ | _santiago_, I just got a new dev box setup with debian sid so when you're finished if you want somebody to test the debs let me know |
| 05:27.58 | infinii | DOn't say RH pleaes |
| 05:28.00 | infinii | ;) |
| 05:28.01 | brc_ | debian |
| 05:28.03 | Moc | infinii, Tao Linux |
| 05:28.07 | epoch | infinii: how is that too small? |
| 05:28.25 | brc_ | (Tao Linux|Whiteboxlinux == RedHatEnterpriseLinux3 |
| 05:28.26 | infinii | heh ok I've never heard of Tao. been outta linux game too long...ever since I got my powerbook |
| 05:28.35 | _santiago_ | brc_, thank u |
| 05:28.44 | infinii | epoch: just sounds too small but what do I know |
| 05:29.01 | Moc | Sivana hehe |
| 05:29.06 | epoch | I'm gonna assume that's one of those hypotheticals |
| 05:29.07 | _santiago_ | brc_, what do u think about the man pages? |
| 05:29.14 | Sivana | might as well sit down.. it's an all nighter :) |
| 05:29.17 | infinii | Man, this 1.0PR of firefox makes me cream my pants |
| 05:29.28 | Moc | infinii, TMI |
| 05:29.33 | epoch | aieee |
| 05:30.04 | epoch | ok, I have to wake up for my brother-in-law's birthday party tomorrow early |
| 05:30.06 | epoch | 'night folks |
| 05:30.13 | infinii | nite epoch |
| 05:30.15 | Sivana | night |
| 05:31.11 | brc_ | _santiago_, looks good |
| 05:31.47 | brc_ | how about something in the ztcfg page about how ztcfg _MUST_ be run after you load a zaptel module |
| 05:32.08 | brc_ | and mention the -vv option for very verbose (very useful for debugging) |
| 05:32.46 | _santiago_ | brc_, ok |
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| 05:41.38 | af_ | anyone has an account with nufone? |
| 05:42.09 | infinii | Hrm. no way this gentoo upgrade will finish tonight |
| 05:42.22 | infinii | and I need to take care of baby tomorrow while wife works |
| 05:42.27 | infinii | no * for me :( |
| 05:42.40 | Manipura | muhahah |
| 05:42.42 | *** part/#asterisk Manipura (~manipura@dsl-ep-209-115-250-i114-cgy.nucleus.com) |
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| 05:43.41 | manipura_ | muhahah |
| 05:44.33 | manipura_ | stipud server, said 'manipura' was already logged in, I had to register this nick |
| 05:44.54 | infinii | cuz you haven't pinged out yet on other connection |
| 05:45.05 | infinii | should be ok now |
| 05:45.11 | manipura_ | Meaning? |
| 05:45.20 | infinii | you can change your nick back |
| 05:45.33 | infinii | heh |
| 05:45.51 | *** join/#asterisk manipura_ (~mike@dsl-ep-209-115-250-i114-cgy.nucleus.com) |
| 05:45.55 | manipura_ | blah |
| 05:45.55 | brc_ | manipura_, next time try |
| 05:46.10 | infinii | use /nick command |
| 05:46.15 | brc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.28 | manipura_ | it keeps saying nick is use |
| 05:46.31 | brc_ | that will kill mynickname and notify you when it's killed |
| 05:46.34 | brc_ | please see above...... |
| 05:47.15 | infinii | I'm not used to these chan and nickserv services. I'm been on efnet my whole life |
| 05:47.37 | *** part/#asterisk manipura_ (~mike@dsl-ep-209-115-250-i114-cgy.nucleus.com) |
| 05:47.57 | infinii | wow |
| 05:48.03 | infinii | so much nudity on tv at this hour |
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| 05:48.13 | manipura | ok |
| 05:48.20 | infinii | insatiable coeds and latin lover |
| 05:48.28 | manipura | so what did ghost do? |
| 05:48.39 | infinii | he made some pottery with demi |
| 05:49.32 | paulc | whatcha write your AGIs in? |
| 05:49.43 | derrick | blood |
| 05:49.44 | manipura | PHP |
| 05:49.48 | derrick | oh |
| 05:50.01 | infinii | is there a glossary of terms on the voip-info.org wiki? |
| 05:50.24 | manipura | derrick, only if I can use your's, using my own take's too much out of me... Literaly |
| 05:50.45 | manipura | glossary of terms for what? |
| 05:50.53 | derrick | manipura, your sinks and showers don't spew it constantly? weird..i want my money back |
| 05:51.02 | brc_ | manipura, /msg nickserv help ghost |
| 05:52.01 | manipura | derrick, I think you should watch more horror movies, you have a much better imagination than I |
| 05:54.21 | Sivana | lol |
| 05:54.55 | manipura | so where ya from derrick? |
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| 05:55.56 | Sivana | anyone see what's wrong with this? http://pastebin.ca/1201 |
| 05:56.09 | paulc | ACK! It's C code! |
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| 05:56.16 | Sivana | hehe |
| 05:56.17 | Sivana | Oct 2 01:47:15 DEBUG[-181228624]: VoctelRoute: Extracted CallerID number '7054979320' from channel CallerID string 'Richard Cook <7054979320>' |
| 05:56.17 | Sivana | Oct 2 01:47:15 DEBUG[-181228624]: VocTelRoute: CallerID '¶à' was received from channel |
| 05:56.29 | Sivana | it's ok inside the function, but garbled outside |
| 05:56.46 | Sivana | voctel_getcalleridnum(voctelacct->callerid, chan->callerid); |
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| 06:26.23 | UnaCoder | what does TDM stand for? |
| 06:27.29 | geneva | time-division multiplexing |
| 06:27.43 | UnaCoder | how does it work? |
| 06:28.02 | UnaCoder | hehe |
| 06:28.08 | UnaCoder | ok ok |
| 06:28.11 | UnaCoder | i'll look it up |
| 06:28.12 | geneva | :D |
| 06:28.28 | UnaCoder | this is some cool stuff |
| 06:28.51 | UnaCoder | what is a good resource for learning about communications protocals and transport hardware? |
| 06:28.57 | UnaCoder | I don't know much about it |
| 06:29.12 | UnaCoder | I know a fair amount about computer networking though... or at least tcp over ip |
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| 06:37.40 | manipura | so someone has to have an idea on how to debug Qos. Cause I have no idea |
| 06:37.59 | brc_ | debug what? |
| 06:38.06 | brc_ | er |
| 06:38.13 | brc_ | what are you trying to do exactly |
| 06:38.34 | manipura | I'm getting lots of delay (only on one end), static, fading in/out, and some clicking |
| 06:38.41 | paulc | blame it on user error |
| 06:39.01 | manipura | how can I tell where this is coming from? |
| 06:39.19 | brc_ | hmmm |
| 06:39.25 | brc_ | lots and lots of testing |
| 06:39.26 | brc_ | :) |
| 06:40.16 | manipura | cisco 5400 DID -> * -> * via iax -> back to same 5400 -> PSTN |
| 06:41.16 | manipura | I dan't care how much testing, i just want the quality to be nearly perfect |
| 06:44.56 | manipura | * -> * is only because *1 is a customized CVS and *2 has bug fixes, currently the connection between the two is two locations, as soon as I figure out the firewall stuff, *1 and *2 will be in the same datacenter/rack/whatever-u-want-to-call-it |
| 06:45.22 | paulc | manipura: Set up MOH extensions on each box.. then you can test how far along the link you get before the problem hits? |
| 06:45.48 | slePP | http://netmonks.ca/t2.png |
| 06:45.55 | slePP | that's my outgoing packet timings. interesting |
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| 06:46.40 | paulc | pretty picture, but what does it MEAN? |
| 06:46.53 | slePP | that's the audio stream coming out of my server |
| 06:46.56 | slePP | they should be 20ms apart. |
| 06:47.04 | slePP | each point is a packet. the Y axis is the time between packets |
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| 06:47.11 | slePP | the X is the time elapsed in packets |
| 06:47.46 | slePP | something interesting, is it is just outright skipping intervals |
| 06:47.50 | paulc | so.. the thick red line is kinda cool, but the other dots are weird |
| 06:48.06 | slePP | some audio is up to 100ms apart.. when it needs to be 20ms apart |
| 06:48.13 | slePP | yeh, the entire thing should be one solid red line |
| 06:48.21 | slePP | ideal case, perfectly straight. but a little fuzz is okay. |
| 06:48.24 | slePP | but i have a lot of fuzz |
| 06:48.32 | slePP | especially those strange straight up and down lines |
| 06:48.48 | slePP | want to test it the same way i did, on your box? :> |
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| 06:49.21 | slePP | it'll need to be SIP, or the IAX2 packets that it uses in the protocol will throw it off |
| 06:49.54 | manipura | So no one has any ideas on how I can find out where the bad quality is coming from? |
| 06:50.25 | UnaCoder | is it possible to configure Asterisk to allow you to listen in on a call from the server? |
| 06:50.29 | paulc | hmm.. could do.. but nah, it's late.. but catch me over the weekend and I'll be well up for drawing pretty pictures from my box |
| 06:50.39 | manipura | I'm in front of the computer 15 hours a day, Its not like I don't have time to waste on this |
| 06:51.06 | paulc | UnaCoder: What kinda call? ;-) There's zapbarge and zapmonitor and a bunch of stuff.. but that's mainly Zap.. but there's that new chan_spy which will do what you want for any channel I believe |
| 06:51.15 | manipura | unacoder, look for monitor() or Record |
| 06:51.29 | UnaCoder | hehe ok |
| 06:51.34 | UnaCoder | i was just thinking to myself... |
| 06:51.43 | UnaCoder | this will be the most easy hack for big brother yet... |
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| 06:52.11 | manipura | unacoder, are you working for big brother? |
| 06:52.29 | UnaCoder | no, i'm working for little brother... in the black hat ;-) |
| 06:52.57 | manipura | hehehe, and i'm working with something called red hat... LOL |
| 06:53.12 | UnaCoder | hehe, that creapt into my mind too |
| 06:53.24 | UnaCoder | but I'm running mandrake, so I can _almost_ say that |
| 06:53.48 | manipura | mandrake... thats good for updates isn't it? |
| 06:54.00 | UnaCoder | its good for desktops |
| 06:54.25 | manipura | Oh yeah, thats right, user friendliness |
| 06:54.31 | UnaCoder | right-o |
| 06:55.10 | UnaCoder | don't get me wrong, I love rolling up my sleeves and logging into my slackware and fbsd boxen, but mandrake is pretty and supports alot of hard ward ootb |
| 06:55.23 | manipura | Thats the reason I chose RH, instead of gentoo... Mandrake was never on my list |
| 06:55.43 | UnaCoder | I think you'd be pleasantly supprised |
| 06:56.27 | manipura | I really hear Gentoo is awesome. but I still have to work through the intallation |
| 06:56.36 | UnaCoder | yeah |
| 06:56.41 | UnaCoder | my buddy raves about gentoo |
| 06:56.48 | UnaCoder | but compiling everything from source? |
| 06:56.54 | UnaCoder | that sounds like a headache... |
| 06:57.19 | UnaCoder | I'm all for maximum optimization but that would take for ever |
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| 06:58.01 | manipura | Reminds me of the street downtown, where on one side, you can buy a rose for $5 and on the other side, $10.. Why? becuase some people like to have a $10 rose, rather than the $5 one |
| 06:58.21 | JamesDotCom | to get it to a desktop, linux + x.org + gnome + openoffice will take about 2 days on an average desktop pc |
| 06:58.48 | JamesDotCom | jsut the basic kernel + server apps it takes about 3/4 hours on a decent enough server |
| 06:59.14 | UnaCoder | JamesDotCom, exactly my point. installing mandrake with xfree + kde + openoffice + plethora of software and servers, took like 30 - 40 minutes tops |
| 06:59.16 | manipura | I had someone help me with my first gentoo install, it took three days! and even then, gentoo doesn't like to stay with the default locations when you install things. |
| 07:00.15 | JamesDotCom | the one reason i wouldnt use gentoo on servers is that i dont like gcc + development tools on servers |
| 07:00.18 | manipura | I'm not sure 'how' normal it is, but apache, usualy installed itself as 'httpd', but in gentoo, it was all called apache, or apache2 |
| 07:00.21 | UnaCoder | although once you get it all configed and everything installed, its hard as a rock and fast |
| 07:00.38 | JamesDotCom | its called apache in debian too |
| 07:00.40 | UnaCoder | well, you can remove them i would assume |
| 07:01.03 | manipura | debian, thats the one I never tried. Thats the one for easy updates isn't it? |
| 07:01.08 | UnaCoder | apache is the apache default name |
| 07:01.12 | JamesDotCom | UnaCoder: not neccessarily, depends on how competent the person installing it |
| 07:01.18 | JamesDotCom | for gentoo that is |
| 07:01.31 | UnaCoder | httpd is usualy a symlink or a rename from a particular distro |
| 07:01.36 | JamesDotCom | and you can use binary packages in gentoo, but it kinda destroys the purpose of using gentoo in the first place |
| 07:01.47 | JamesDotCom | and emerge aint greater than apt |
| 07:02.03 | JamesDotCom | manipura: i love it's packaging system... apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:02.16 | JamesDotCom | downloads and upgrades all my packages off a mirror nearby |
| 07:03.06 | JamesDotCom | only reference to httpd on debian is httpd.conf |
| 07:03.10 | manipura | jamesdotcom.. Thats when you get the pleasure of killing your packages youself |
| 07:03.18 | JamesDotCom | but that's just default apache |
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| 07:04.00 | manipura | Doesn't eveyone just love the fact of upgrading to a system that doesn't work with what you have? |
| 07:04.21 | JamesDotCom | debian's pretty good at avoiding that |
| 07:04.24 | JamesDotCom | especially stable |
| 07:04.28 | infinii | I prefer my OS X |
| 07:04.29 | JamesDotCom | but i use testing without problems |
| 07:04.33 | JamesDotCom | yeah |
| 07:04.35 | manipura | As slow as it makes technology grow, downward compatability IS the way to go |
| 07:04.36 | JamesDotCom | i have a powerbook |
| 07:04.40 | JamesDotCom | i love os x for a desktop |
| 07:04.43 | UnaCoder | os X looks pretty |
| 07:04.52 | infinii | UnaCoder: it's not just looks |
| 07:04.55 | UnaCoder | I've wanted to try it ever since i heard they were using the bsd kernel |
| 07:04.57 | infinii | It simply works |
| 07:05.19 | UnaCoder | I love *nix, and I think apple is the best thing to happen to unix on the desktop since X |
| 07:05.25 | infinii | System UPdate just works |
| 07:05.36 | infinii | I dread updating any linux dist now |
| 07:05.45 | UnaCoder | lol |
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| 07:06.02 | brc_ | "JamesDotCom the one reason i wouldnt use gentoo on servers is that i dont like gcc + development tools on servers" how do ya compile asterisk every 12 hours? |
| 07:06.04 | *** join/#asterisk |nix (~|nix@202.148.164.32) |
| 07:06.41 | UnaCoder | nfs mounted devel tools in /usr/share ? |
| 07:09.18 | brc_ | haha |
| 07:09.31 | manipura | but onto channel topic. What exacly is 1.0 compared to the CVS? Featurewise. yes I know 1.0 won't have some features you can get off the Cvs, but what??? |
| 07:09.31 | UnaCoder | :-D |
| 07:10.24 | JamesDotCom | brc_: hahaha |
| 07:10.29 | brc_ | well? |
| 07:10.44 | brc_ | manipura, 1.0 the tarbal? |
| 07:10.44 | |nix | does anyone know who can i talk to regarding asterisk licensing |
| 07:10.46 | brc_ | ball |
| 07:10.51 | brc_ | or 1.0 the stable cvs branch? |
| 07:10.55 | brc_ | |nix, ask away |
| 07:11.08 | brc_ | |nix, did you post the thread on the mailing list about it? |
| 07:11.13 | JamesDotCom | i've only just started rolling out asterisk servers, only got a couple, but as they add up i'm going to customise a debian and roll my own asterisk .debs |
| 07:11.20 | |nix | never tried that |
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| 07:11.24 | |nix | do you thing thats a good idea? |
| 07:11.29 | brc_ | somebody else just did |
| 07:11.31 | |nix | i've emailed digium directly though |
| 07:11.32 | JamesDotCom | then just set the dev server that builds them to upload them to a debian repository for each of the servers |
| 07:11.49 | brc_ | JamesDotCom yep |
| 07:12.01 | brc_ | run your own repository |
| 07:12.06 | JamesDotCom | yeah |
| 07:12.36 | brc_ | I really really really wish they'd keep the old version of a package around for say 7 days |
| 07:13.03 | manipura | like I heard they renewed teh bug db for 1.0? something like that, what was that all about? |
| 07:13.21 | JamesDotCom | i've been working on learning asterisk and getting a few servers up around the country in the last few weeks, i hope to get started on making myself a nice little distribution for the servers |
| 07:13.31 | JamesDotCom | based of debian, selinux/grsecurity maybe |
| 07:13.35 | JamesDotCom | off rather |
| 07:14.00 | brc_ | manipura, huh? |
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| 07:15.01 | manipura | brc_, something about everyone on the mailing list gettin 1700 e-mail from the bug list. |
| 07:15.16 | brc_ | manipura, don't worry abou tit |
| 07:15.32 | manipura | brc_ my goal now is to wiki more info on what 1.0 is all about. |
| 07:15.41 | manipura | And to learn some myself |
| 07:16.05 | jsr | anyone have an experience with broadvoice vs voicepulse? which would you recommend? |
| 07:16.08 | UnaCoder | I read an article that a guy in canada who works for Digium used Asterisk with vonage... I thought conage refused to work with anything but Motorola vt1000's ? |
| 07:18.07 | manipura | jsr no experience personaly, but from what I know, they both suck |
| 07:20.18 | JerJer | UnaCoder: if you pay for the vonage softfone account you can make it work with asterisk |
| 07:20.49 | UnaCoder | where do you apply for a softphone account? I sell vonage (or did) for best buy, and I never saw anything about soft phones on their web site |
| 07:21.17 | UnaCoder | oh they must have updated their service since I was on the web site last... nm... i see it now |
| 07:21.17 | jsr | manipura: unfortunately i can't find too many other companies that offer local arizona numbers :( |
| 07:21.18 | UnaCoder | sweet |
| 07:21.27 | UnaCoder | jsr: vonage! :-D |
| 07:21.29 | af_ | hi JerJer I have just setup an account with nufone, and it works great! |
| 07:21.43 | af_ | just want to tell you |
| 07:22.07 | manipura | JerJer, I hope you aren't sleeping. |
| 07:22.40 | JerJer | af_: thanks |
| 07:22.42 | jsr | vonage is too much money for what i need, i really just need a cheap DID |
| 07:23.49 | manipura | jsr, try finding a cheap DID in Canada.... |
| 07:24.05 | manipura | Sorry, try finding a reliable DID in Canada |
| 07:25.33 | infinii | DID=?? |
| 07:26.03 | brc_ | ~did |
| 07:26.11 | af_ | JerJer: could I ask you some details about business 1000? what means exactly "One Free PSTN", please? |
| 07:26.22 | infinii | We need an acrobot in here |
| 07:26.26 | brc_ | ~did is Direct Inbound Dialing number |
| 07:26.27 | jbot | brc_: okay |
| 07:26.30 | infinii | thanks brc |
| 07:26.36 | UnaCoder | So, if I hooked my PBX up to vonage, I would be adding a "Soft FXO" sort of ?? |
| 07:26.53 | infinii | Are all of you guys telecom freaks? |
| 07:26.58 | JerJer | af_: You mean one free pstn and/or voip conference? |
| 07:27.18 | manipura | brc_ you had to answer that one yoruself? |
| 07:27.26 | af_ | yeah, JerJer sorry I did not understand that |
| 07:27.29 | brc_ | sadly yes |
| 07:27.43 | af_ | I mean I understand the conference, JerJer |
| 07:28.03 | manipura | jbot what is did |
| 07:28.04 | jbot | from memory, did is Direct Inbound Dialing number |
| 07:28.18 | JerJer | af_ we will host a conference for you on our servers |
| 07:28.21 | manipura | cool, I always wanted my own robot |
| 07:28.26 | brc_ | Business 1000: $21.99 a month "One Free PSTN and/or VoIP Conference room" ........you can dial in via PSTN or VoIP sounds like to me |
| 07:28.28 | af_ | that;s ok JerJer |
| 07:28.36 | UnaCoder | there are too many damn acronymes in telecommunications.... sheesh |
| 07:28.49 | infinii | UnaCoder: totally agree |
| 07:28.49 | brc_ | no there aren't |
| 07:29.14 | af_ | but what about the free pstn? |
| 07:29.15 | UnaCoder | well you're entitled to your opinion regardless of how wrong you are... |
| 07:29.20 | brc_ | I for one welecome our new TLA overlords |
| 07:29.24 | manipura | Technology itself has too many acronyms |
| 07:29.35 | manipura | I think I should go into the medical field |
| 07:29.39 | UnaCoder | hehe |
| 07:30.11 | infinii | I did a 1.5yr long project with ibm callpath enterprise (skbr), directtalk (ivr), and other call recording product. and yet with that experience (programming) you'd think I could follow a bit of the conversation in here yet I don't. you could be speaking swahili |
| 07:30.28 | infinii | probably close to 2yrs if you count phase 2 |
| 07:30.44 | UnaCoder | lol |
| 07:30.51 | brc_ | infinii, whatchya want to do with asterisk? |
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| 07:31.12 | infinii | brc_: just play with it. I have a spare linux box here |
| 07:31.16 | UnaCoder | I saw we all make an internet based pirate telephone network and say screw ma' bell |
| 07:31.16 | brc_ | ahh |
| 07:31.22 | JerJer | ar_: most ppl do not utilize that option because they have thier own Asterisk box they can host a conference on. |
| 07:31.25 | brc_ | UnaCoder, already happening |
| 07:31.29 | UnaCoder | ooo |
| 07:31.30 | infinii | play with it and see what I could do, then maybe switch to it for home use...who knows |
| 07:31.31 | UnaCoder | i wanna hook up |
| 07:31.31 | brc_ | ~enum |
| 07:31.34 | UnaCoder | were do I sign up |
| 07:31.39 | manipura | infinii, I've talked to people that knew voip like the back of their hand.. when they say asterisk, they were lost |
| 07:31.43 | brc_ | ~google enum |
| 07:32.35 | UnaCoder | looks complicated |
| 07:33.12 | UnaCoder | ack |
| 07:33.27 | UnaCoder | and I thought I learned more than I wanted to know when I delved into computer networking... |
| 07:33.37 | UnaCoder | telecom is way more ... messy |
| 07:33.47 | infinii | wayy |
| 07:33.54 | UnaCoder | i suppose all the same concepts apply about routing and what not... |
| 07:34.12 | UnaCoder | and domain controllers |
| 07:34.27 | _santiago_ | brc_, bye, and thanks for the help with the man, I'll tell u when I finish the .deb |
| 07:34.32 | UnaCoder | like certain pbx's are in charge of sertain blocks of phone numbers and stuff? |
| 07:34.35 | brc_ | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-ENUM http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-OpenEnum |
| 07:34.36 | UnaCoder | certain |
| 07:34.37 | brc_ | _santiago_, thanks |
| 07:34.40 | UnaCoder | ack, can't talk |
| 07:34.54 | manipura | they guy that built my * box, used freeradius to do routing... errg.. what a headache for someone that's never touched radius |
| 07:35.14 | UnaCoder | whats radius?? |
| 07:35.17 | infinii | here's a problem though. if you lose your internet connection you lose phone (voip) |
| 07:35.25 | infinii | whereas a phone always works |
| 07:35.32 | UnaCoder | didn't used to be that way |
| 07:35.35 | infinii | take last year's black out here on east coast |
| 07:35.38 | UnaCoder | phone switches used to crash |
| 07:35.53 | infinii | I can't tell you last time I picked up a phone and didn't hear dialtone |
| 07:35.53 | brc_ | http://www.e164.org/ |
| 07:35.56 | UnaCoder | but they've been around longer than the 'net |
| 07:36.11 | brc_ | exactly |
| 07:36.16 | brc_ | besides |
| 07:36.22 | manipura | unacoder, radius is something people used to use for authenticating and accounting dial-up internet connections |
| 07:36.23 | infinii | but I'm lucky as hell if my isp doesn't screw up once a month |
| 07:36.34 | brc_ | if you need a net connection that's always live...you can get it for the right price |
| 07:36.42 | UnaCoder | the internet backphone is getting closer to stabulity anyways |
| 07:36.49 | infinii | what is right price? sounds expensive |
| 07:36.57 | brc_ | the backBone is very stable already |
| 07:37.00 | infinii | UnaCoder: backbone might be but you're isp isn't |
| 07:37.04 | UnaCoder | well |
| 07:37.07 | UnaCoder | my isp is fine |
| 07:37.08 | brc_ | infinii, contact your sevice provider and ask about a SLA |
| 07:37.10 | brc_ | give it time |
| 07:37.33 | UnaCoder | i'm thinkin as soon as WiFi isps get popular enough any average joe is gonna run his own neighbor hood isp |
| 07:37.39 | UnaCoder | things should pickup then |
| 07:37.46 | brc_ | UnaCoder, http://www.e164.org |
| 07:37.59 | brc_ | average joe?...not likely...not for awhile |
| 07:38.04 | UnaCoder | brc_, sweet |
| 07:38.17 | UnaCoder | hmm, I just had a vision |
| 07:38.25 | UnaCoder | OpenLDAP + Asterisk |
| 07:38.31 | manipura | neighbourhood ISP, can't you buy a wireless tower for $50,000 that will go for 15 kilometers? |
| 07:38.42 | BoRiS | cheaper |
| 07:38.46 | UnaCoder | 50k??? |
| 07:38.50 | brc_ | cheaper |
| 07:38.53 | manipura | 20? |
| 07:38.57 | brc_ | . |
| 07:39.03 | UnaCoder | 2.4Ghz antennas are only like $300 |
| 07:39.11 | UnaCoder | for good ones used for satellite |
| 07:39.20 | UnaCoder | I'm sure they'd be adaptable... |
| 07:39.29 | manipura | how far does 2.4Gh go? |
| 07:39.38 | UnaCoder | depends on how muhc juice you use :-P |
| 07:39.40 | JerJer | UnaCoder: why bloat with ldap ? |
| 07:39.50 | UnaCoder | JerJer, network integration service |
| 07:39.54 | UnaCoder | imagine this |
| 07:40.00 | UnaCoder | you sit down at your work station... or any one's |
| 07:40.07 | UnaCoder | log in using your LDAP account |
| 07:40.11 | UnaCoder | your mail comes up |
| 07:40.18 | UnaCoder | your desktop background |
| 07:40.29 | UnaCoder | and the phone on the desk automatically gets assigned your phone number |
| 07:40.42 | UnaCoder | at any phone, workstation, and desk in the company, or possibly the world |
| 07:40.50 | JerJer | why do you need LDAP? |
| 07:41.02 | UnaCoder | LDAP ties the authentication of all the applications together |
| 07:41.07 | JerJer | why not SELECT whatever FROM some_tbl where blah = ? |
| 07:41.12 | UnaCoder | you log in once, and everything is authed |
| 07:41.25 | manipura | has anyone seen those sun systems, 10 computers in one deal??? 10 workstations that work off one box, you just have to swipe a card and your logged in. |
| 07:41.37 | brc_ | yes |
| 07:41.40 | UnaCoder | manipura, we had them ad my college |
| 07:41.42 | UnaCoder | sunrays |
| 07:41.45 | infinii | I need sleep |
| 07:41.48 | infinii | gnite folks |
| 07:41.48 | UnaCoder | little X terminals |
| 07:41.52 | UnaCoder | they're really neet |
| 07:42.00 | UnaCoder | infinii, nice chattin with ya, g'nigh |
| 07:42.02 | infinii | I'll be back for help once my gentoo is upgraded...shouldn't be longer than a week |
| 07:42.07 | UnaCoder | lol |
| 07:42.11 | infinii | it's on 11 of 182 packages now |
| 07:42.17 | paulc | JerJer: Quick question, quick answer - pgsql or mysql? |
| 07:42.29 | BoRiS | LOL! |
| 07:42.32 | brc_ | personal preference |
| 07:42.34 | infinii | pgsql is more powerful |
| 07:42.35 | BoRiS | pgsql :) |
| 07:42.40 | JerJer | MySQL |
| 07:42.41 | brc_ | mysql may be faster |
| 07:42.47 | JerJer | pgsql is too slow |
| 07:42.54 | BoRiS | not with v8 |
| 07:42.55 | manipura | infinii, don't update /etc/ in gentoo, before saving all your configs.. you don't want to learn that the hard way :_) |
| 07:43.10 | UnaCoder | pgsql has wayyyy more tools |
| 07:43.16 | brc_ | /etc/ + Subversion == yay! |
| 07:43.24 | UnaCoder | MySQL is faster in some basic applications |
| 07:43.29 | infinii | heh version control /etc |
| 07:43.31 | infinii | good idea |
| 07:43.38 | UnaCoder | but if you want triggers and complex queries go with postgres |
| 07:43.43 | infinii | nite |
| 07:43.49 | BoRiS | Alot of commercial vendors (Fujitsu, HP, etc) are donating money for even MORE commercial funtionality for Postgres |
| 07:43.49 | UnaCoder | night infinii |
| 07:44.00 | UnaCoder | yeah |
| 07:44.09 | UnaCoder | postgres has more development too |
| 07:44.22 | BoRiS | And none of that licensing crap |
| 07:44.39 | manipura | stupid mysql and there new 4.0 licences.... Why can't we all just get along? |
| 07:44.45 | paulc | What have I done?! I wanted a simple answer and managed to start the relgious flame war I was trying to avoid :-s |
| 07:45.11 | paulc | kind of reassuring to know that JerJer uses MySQL though.. that warm'n'fuzzy kinda "so it DOES work" kinda vibe |
| 07:45.58 | UnaCoder | hahahaha |
| 07:46.03 | JerJer | we burn massive records thru mysql, without issue |
| 07:46.07 | brc_ | infinii, it's not just a good idea |
| 07:46.15 | JerJer | including using the built-in replication |
| 07:46.20 | manipura | when I first started using php, i would feel empty/dead when mysql didn't work. And now php5 doesn't even come with mysql support.. Imagine how left out I feel |
| 07:46.35 | UnaCoder | lol |
| 07:46.42 | UnaCoder | I like this channel |
| 07:46.44 | UnaCoder | no politics |
| 07:46.53 | UnaCoder | no "I'm supperior to you" crap |
| 07:46.55 | BoRiS | Its all about the looooooove |
| 07:47.01 | UnaCoder | just a bunch of geeks talking about stuff we love |
| 07:47.11 | manipura | where's the women? |
| 07:47.22 | UnaCoder | and she shall be called * |
| 07:47.30 | BoRiS | :-p |
| 07:47.32 | manipura | * is a slut |
| 07:47.33 | UnaCoder | lol |
| 07:47.39 | UnaCoder | * is a clean slut |
| 07:47.54 | BoRiS | She's definately been ...... "Used" |
| 07:47.56 | manipura | hell * keeps me up all night |
| 07:48.05 | paulc | oh baby OH BABY :) |
| 07:48.10 | UnaCoder | you love her, you hate her... |
| 07:48.16 | UnaCoder | but you can never have enough of her |
| 07:48.17 | manipura | My * is very "abused" |
| 07:48.29 | BoRiS | her .... him .... its all the same. :) |
| 07:48.41 | paulc | That *, so pansexual.. |
| 07:48.53 | UnaCoder | ack |
| 07:48.59 | UnaCoder | morning meeting for the office at 7am |
| 07:49.00 | manipura | She gets around |
| 07:49.10 | UnaCoder | its ten to three CST... Dar. |
| 07:49.27 | manipura | ten to two, MST |
| 07:49.34 | BoRiS | CST here |
| 07:49.47 | JerJer | EDT here |
| 07:49.57 | paulc | ten to one PDT |
| 07:50.04 | manipura | what the hell is EDT??? (no offence_ |
| 07:50.08 | paulc | JerJer's burning the midnight oil? |
| 07:50.11 | paulc | Eastern Daylight Time |
| 07:50.20 | paulc | OWIE! What was THAT for?! |
| 07:50.23 | manipura | Hey, we got a west coaster here |
| 07:50.29 | BoRiS | paulc: Love slap. |
| 07:50.37 | BoRiS | nooooo |
| 07:50.38 | manipura | paulc, where ya from? |
| 07:50.40 | JerJer | paulc: i am a vampire... these are prime codin hours fo rme |
| 07:50.47 | paulc | West Coast.. home of the flakiest people in the world.. and "It's all good".. and BC bud.. |
| 07:50.59 | paulc | manipura: FROM the UK and IN Vancouver :) |
| 07:51.09 | paulc | (although some would argue FROM Canada cos I was born in Ontario) |
| 07:51.14 | paulc | but the accent has be down as a Brit |
| 07:51.22 | manipura | Ah, paulc, in Calgary, From vancouver island |
| 07:51.37 | paulc | what took you oot east? |
| 07:51.42 | BoRiS | Winterpeg here |
| 07:52.17 | manipura | paulc, have you left your computer? cause in vancouver, it might be a pretty area, but the streets aren't that nice... |
| 07:52.21 | manipura | And there is no work |
| 07:52.22 | BoRiS | speaking of winter....its starting to really get cold outside now. |
| 07:53.06 | BoRiS | What jobs? |
| 07:53.35 | manipura | paulc, I'm taken care of, and I get to do what I (now) love most. Work with * |
| 07:53.48 | BoRiS | It was so hard finding a decent job when I was kinda living there back in '99 |
| 07:53.57 | UnaCoder | yeah |
| 07:54.00 | UnaCoder | cold here too |
| 07:54.03 | UnaCoder | i'm in Minnesota |
| 07:54.14 | paulc | manipura: gissajob ;-) |
| 07:54.15 | UnaCoder | not to far away from you canadians :-P |
| 07:54.17 | BoRiS | Directly south from me |
| 07:54.27 | UnaCoder | 8 hour drive to the border |
| 07:54.45 | paulc | Vancouver kinda does my head in at the moment.. on all sorts of levels.. |
| 07:54.48 | UnaCoder | I was halfway there last weekend chasing some wild life around with my remington 870 express |
| 07:54.58 | BoRiS | Its about a 2-2 1/2 hour drive to the minnesota border from here |
| 07:55.01 | paulc | UnaCoder: LMAO gun toting american? ;-) |
| 07:55.12 | paulc | I can get from my place to the US border in about 45 mins on a good day |
| 07:55.13 | UnaCoder | yup, armed and dangerous |
| 07:55.13 | manipura | paulc, it's all that good weed out there ;) |
| 07:55.18 | BoRiS | Guns......yikes! |
| 07:55.25 | UnaCoder | if you walk on all fours that is, or have wings... hehehe |
| 07:55.34 | paulc | don't partake of the locals much either - odd breed |
| 07:55.51 | BoRiS | Does that mean that we should never go to Minnesota unless we want to get SHOT at? |
| 07:56.05 | UnaCoder | do you walk on all fours or have wings ? |
| 07:56.13 | BoRiS | No |
| 07:56.17 | manipura | Don't cross that american border unless you have a bullet-proof vest |
| 07:56.20 | UnaCoder | then I don't think you have anything to worry about |
| 07:56.24 | UnaCoder | lol |
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| 07:56.30 | paulc | don't go to Surrey unless you have a bullet-proof vest |
| 07:56.31 | UnaCoder | we're a dangerous bunch ;-) |
| 07:56.40 | BoRiS | Surrey is scary |
| 07:56.56 | UnaCoder | ok, crap, I gotta work in 4 hours |
| 07:57.00 | paulc | I think I'd prefer to live out of the downtown core.. and have a car.. but right now none of that's really on the plan |
| 07:57.01 | UnaCoder | that means I get to sleep for three |
| 07:57.03 | BoRiS | I am really surprised paulc that you aren't stoned 24/7 like the locals. |
| 07:57.05 | manipura | Don't go to surrey unless you have a bullet-proof vest & a box of condoms |
| 07:57.17 | paulc | if the job (or lack of) carries on the way it goes, I too may turn to the local escapism favourite |
| 07:57.20 | BoRiS | lol |
| 07:57.23 | UnaCoder | g'night guys |
| 07:57.27 | paulc | meh.. nah.. not my thing.. give me vodka anytime.. |
| 07:57.30 | UnaCoder | nice meeting all of you |
| 07:57.36 | paulc | nite.. |
| 07:57.37 | BoRiS | later UnaCoder |
| 07:57.49 | paulc | Yeah.. I dunno.. odd locals.. odd culture.. odd way of doing business here.. |
| 07:58.15 | manipura | alright, paulc wants to become a heroin junky that lives on welfare |
| 07:58.26 | BoRiS | East Hastings |
| 07:58.30 | manipura | cause thats normal there |
| 07:58.39 | manipura | boris knows |
| 07:58.42 | BoRiS | LOL |
| 07:58.52 | paulc | Nah.. I was thinking more like False Creek or Kitsilano somewhere? |
| 07:59.03 | manipura | actualy the gov. now gives away heroin |
| 07:59.17 | manipura | paulc, move to the island! |
| 07:59.25 | BoRiS | The scary was when I was first visiting vancouver and my friends took me down to east hastings, I was sooo freaked out that I walked close to the street because I thought someone was going to jab me with their HIV infected needles |
| 07:59.48 | manipura | paulc on van island, you'd never see so many free spirited people |
| 08:00.34 | paulc | define "free spirited"? ;-) |
| 08:00.42 | manipura | boris, only once in my life have I ever seen anyone stick someone with with a needle.. |
| 08:01.18 | manipura | open minded. unjugemental... You don't have to walk with your chin up to stay alive |
| 08:01.23 | BoRiS | manipura: I know.... Sometimes I become abit too paranoid including in unfamiliar teritories. |
| 08:02.10 | manipura | boris, I know, i just think its funny that someone got all his shit stolen because some guy said the needle had HIV |
| 08:02.54 | BoRiS | Well, a good scare tactic. |
| 08:02.59 | manipura | very |
| 08:03.29 | manipura | Fear controls the world |
| 08:03.49 | BoRiS | No plans to go to vancouver anytime soon..... Maybe back to calgary |
| 08:04.02 | manipura | Yeah, calgary rules! |
| 08:04.09 | BoRiS | Hows the job scene? |
| 08:04.13 | manipura | I've never seen so many beautiful women in my life |
| 08:04.54 | manipura | Great, imperial oil is moving here next year, going to open 500 more jobs.. So that means more managers are going to be hating life because they can't hire anyone |
| 08:05.31 | BoRiS | hehe |
| 08:05.33 | af_ | where you have seen these women, manipura ? |
| 08:06.00 | manipura | Calgary has the best economy in north america.. |
| 08:06.23 | manipura | af_ women? |
| 08:06.42 | af_ | "<manipura> I've never seen so many beautiful women in my life" |
| 08:06.53 | manipura | oh, CALGARY! |
| 08:07.00 | af_ | oh, where is it? |
| 08:07.17 | BoRiS | Canada |
| 08:07.26 | af_ | I see |
| 08:07.31 | manipura | Come to calgary, spend one hour in any mall. You'll walk away with a hard on that won't away for days |
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| 08:08.34 | BoRiS | Hmmmm, Never did notice that. |
| 08:09.00 | manipura | Yeah, calgary has a ver dense population of beautiful women. |
| 08:09.11 | manipura | *very |
| 08:10.17 | manipura | and its also the most wired city in canada |
| 08:10.35 | BoRiS | Toronto :) |
| 08:10.41 | manipura | Calgary! |
| 08:10.46 | BoRiS | Toronto |
| 08:10.49 | BoRiS | :-p |
| 08:11.11 | BoRiS | Anythings better then Winnipeg... (well, ALMOST) |
| 08:11.15 | manipura | I'm just going from what I hear |
| 08:11.37 | Dibbler | Edmonton is a nice place |
| 08:11.37 | manipura | didn't winnipeg just get dial up? LOL |
| 08:11.49 | BoRiS | LOL |
| 08:12.18 | manipura | I think manitoba is working on getting the TV soon enough |
| 08:12.43 | BoRiS | Actually winnipeg is doing pretty well. Alot of new development and buildings going up in the last year which is a really good sign |
| 08:13.05 | manipura | Yeah, i've heard the same |
| 08:13.17 | manipura | I don't know why anyone would want to live there though |
| 08:13.43 | manipura | Cause I'm sure those flat lands get very exciting |
| 08:13.54 | BoRiS | I love FLAT land! |
| 08:14.09 | manipura | sorry, I like moutains, lakes, rivers. |
| 08:14.11 | BoRiS | I hated walking up and down those HUGE hills in vancouver |
| 08:14.13 | af_ | no flat here |
| 08:14.17 | af_ | hills & sea |
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| 08:15.12 | BoRiS | Actually Winnipeg is a great place to settle down in and to live here is pretty cheap (Except lately the cost of housing has definately skyrocketed) |
| 08:15.14 | manipura | okay, but boris. Vancouver still had trees, bushes, well... Plant life... Sask. Its flat.. |
| 08:15.59 | BoRiS | Sask is a dead province....Its basically BC, Alberta, then a long drive through some grasslands and then you are in Manitoba |
| 08:16.37 | manipura | I had a friend that bought a 3 bdr. house is sask for $25,000 after a year, they realized their mistake and moved back to BC and rented a house for $1200 a month |
| 08:17.42 | manipura | BC had great bud! Thats what I have to say about that |
| 08:17.54 | BoRiS | I know the housing costs in Calgary are becoming insaine like in vancouver. |
| 08:18.11 | manipura | yeah, they are about the same |
| 08:18.32 | manipura | alberta still has no PST |
| 08:18.49 | paulc | what big hills are you talking about in Vancouver? |
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| 08:18.55 | manipura | So things are 7-8% cheaper |
| 08:18.56 | BoRiS | Thats why its best to purchase things in alberta :) |
| 08:19.15 | manipura | boris.. BEER! |
| 08:19.28 | BoRiS | well, actually its best to buy it in BC when it comes off the boat. |
| 08:19.33 | BoRiS | lol |
| 08:19.41 | manipura | paulc, you can't walk 100 meters without hitting a hill |
| 08:19.49 | BoRiS | exactly |
| 08:19.51 | manipura | Unless your downtown I guess |
| 08:20.17 | manipura | paulc been to the commadore? |
| 08:20.23 | paulc | Yup :) |
| 08:20.29 | BoRiS | even the west end is on a hill |
| 08:20.30 | manipura | I love that dance floor |
| 08:21.01 | manipura | well, it was a mosh pit when I went there, broke my nose, but still loved that bouncy floor |
| 08:21.31 | paulc | bud and the dancefloor - your two biggest loves in vancouver? |
| 08:21.31 | manipura | Fuck'n freenode |
| 08:21.37 | manipura | what else is there??? |
| 08:22.33 | BoRiS | It was annoying that my friends were smoking up any chance they could in van. |
| 08:22.55 | manipura | I did that as a teen... |
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| 08:23.16 | manipura | but that was the culture |
| 08:23.20 | manipura | everyone did it |
| 08:23.24 | BoRiS | and STILL is |
| 08:23.30 | manipura | now I'm in alberta... I drink |
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| 08:24.15 | paulc | I don't do it |
| 08:24.23 | manipura | pot makes you stupid... Drinking makes you pissed off... Phew.. I never want to be dumb |
| 08:24.34 | pfn | drinking only makes some people pissed off |
| 08:24.45 | pfn | other people it makes friendly |
| 08:24.47 | manipura | pfn, depends on what your doing |
| 08:24.59 | pfn | nothing like drinking and strip poker |
| 08:24.59 | pfn | wh00p |
| 08:25.03 | BoRiS | With drinking, everyone starts looking better. |
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| 08:25.10 | pfn | indeed |
| 08:25.12 | manipura | pfn, ever drank and tried to program perl? |
| 08:25.13 | pfn | O_O |
| 08:25.17 | BoRiS | Maybe thats why you say all the women are prettier in calgary? :-p |
| 08:25.29 | pfn | I've drank and tried to program all the time |
| 08:25.33 | pfn | it's fun |
| 08:25.43 | BoRiS | How nerdy is that. :-p |
| 08:25.46 | BoRiS | hehe |
| 08:25.53 | pfn | nah, we have beer socials at work |
| 08:25.55 | pfn | drink 3 or 4 beers |
| 08:25.57 | pfn | and go back to work |
| 08:26.17 | manipura | pfn, everday! |
| 08:26.25 | manipura | every |
| 08:27.09 | BoRiS | I barely drink anymore... I used to drink alot in my earlier years going to the bars and parties and slowly started to get sick of it. |
| 08:27.22 | manipura | although last night, we all got a little overboard. Lets just say, the next day, the coffee maker couldn't keep up with us |
| 08:27.37 | pfn | I drink less since I have an underaged fiancee (<21 that is, not <18) |
| 08:27.37 | pfn | heh |
| 08:28.05 | manipura | oooo... pfn.. you mad man... Good for you, how old are you? |
| 08:28.12 | pfn | 26 |
| 08:28.32 | BoRiS | Is she 20? |
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| 08:28.37 | manipura | pfn, hint: just say your going to the bar ;) |
| 08:28.38 | pfn | go lower |
| 08:28.38 | pfn | heh |
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| 08:29.06 | manipura | 19 |
| 08:29.13 | pfn | more or less |
| 08:29.14 | pfn | heh |
| 08:29.28 | BoRiS | a young'in |
| 08:29.37 | manipura | I wouldn't date a girl that young, unless she was a nymph |
| 08:30.12 | Dibbler | lol |
| 08:30.39 | af_ | nice sport, indeed |
| 08:30.49 | manipura | acutaly, I don't think I would date any girl right now, unless she was a nymph. I have too many friends that got girlfriends, that don't give it up.. And since then. They've all gone soure |
| 08:30.54 | manipura | *sour |
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| 08:31.16 | pfn | girls give it up if you get 'em in the mood |
| 08:31.19 | pfn | it really isn't that hard.... |
| 08:31.23 | pfn | make 'em feel pretty |
| 08:31.25 | pfn | keep in shape |
| 08:31.29 | pfn | and they're hot just about any time |
| 08:31.30 | pfn | :p |
| 08:32.00 | BoRiS | unless your ugly :-p |
| 08:32.00 | manipura | Try dating a girl with vaginitis, or some shit like that |
| 08:32.04 | af_ | why use so-dimm in epia instead of normal ddr? |
| 08:32.21 | manipura | Where their pussy won't go loose, it's always tight like a virgin |
| 08:33.13 | pfn | frigid |
| 08:33.23 | manipura | Sure, I like having a girl scream like it was her first time. |
| 08:33.25 | pfn | i forrget the term too |
| 08:33.37 | pfn | first timers don't scream |
| 08:33.58 | manipura | But when you try to stick two fingers in, and she almost breaks them.... Thats not too fun when your a computer guy |
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| 08:35.17 | manipura | I screamed my first time... heh |
| 08:35.48 | BoRiS | oh? do tell |
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| 08:36.03 | manipura | Yet, it was more of a laugh |
| 08:36.57 | manipura | I just had to yell out "HOLY SHIT, THIS IS WHAT ITS LIKE" as loud as I could |
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| 08:37.15 | manipura | I couldn't help myself |
| 08:37.35 | manipura | but sad to say, thats about all it lasted |
| 08:37.47 | BoRiS | and how old are you now? |
| 08:37.52 | manipura | 20 |
| 08:38.02 | BoRiS | ah |
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| 08:38.16 | manipura | Still a young'n |
| 08:38.20 | manipura | How about you? |
| 08:38.26 | BoRiS | definately |
| 08:38.28 | BoRiS | 27 |
| 08:38.40 | af_ | I am older :) |
| 08:38.53 | manipura | so whats your specialty, other than pbx's? |
| 08:39.19 | paulc | quiting via a ping timeout apparently ;-) |
| 08:39.30 | manipura | Seems that way |
| 08:39.52 | manipura | I've been the great and amazing php programer before I got into VOIP |
| 08:40.39 | manipura | the timing was all off cause I got out of php, just before it went to version 5, which is more of an OOP aproach to acutaly being a language |
| 08:42.19 | manipura | Which brings up a question. is there any advantages or diaadvantages to using certain languages for AGI? |
| 08:42.37 | manipura | or is it all the same? |
| 08:43.18 | manipura | anyone? |
| 08:43.22 | manipura | no one? |
| 08:44.55 | paulc | delayed reply |
| 08:44.56 | paulc | umm |
| 08:45.16 | paulc | *shrugs* each to their own |
| 08:45.18 | paulc | I like Perl for AGI |
| 08:45.23 | paulc | and there's res_perl too if you want it |
| 08:45.33 | manipura | You'd think. On a friday night, the 200 geeks on this list would have nothing better to do. they should be here in the asterisk chat room. like the rest of us loners |
| 08:45.35 | paulc | Gotta love the PHP.. but I'm not keen on using it for command line scripts and/or AGI type stuff |
| 08:45.55 | paulc | who's a loner? I'm not a loner.. I'm just not seeing the other half tonight ;-) |
| 08:45.58 | coppice | Friday night maybe, but its Saturday afternoon :-) |
| 08:46.01 | paulc | ok, ok, I AM a loner.. |
| 08:46.08 | pfn | my fiancee is 8000 miles away |
| 08:46.11 | pfn | hence the voip interest |
| 08:46.38 | pfn | and I just got home from clubbin' |
| 08:46.41 | pfn | that's my excuse |
| 08:46.47 | manipura | so is there a guiness record for first VOIP marriage? |
| 08:47.50 | manipura | pfn, dating an asian girl? |
| 08:48.00 | idnih | hello |
| 08:48.09 | manipura | hi idnih |
| 08:48.32 | manipura | pfn, dating an asian guy? |
| 08:48.40 | idnih | does anyone know what country code I could use for Sinagpore? |
| 08:48.55 | coppice | .sg |
| 08:48.56 | manipura | pfn, dating an arabic girl|guy?? |
| 08:48.58 | idnih | in the zaptel.conf |
| 08:49.08 | idnih | its not there |
| 08:49.44 | coppice | of, sorry. .sg if for Singapore. I'm not sure about Sinagpore :-) |
| 08:50.11 | coppice | me? |
| 08:50.29 | manipura | you? coppice? |
| 08:50.50 | coppice | probably only about 7000 miles, come to think of it :-) |
| 08:51.13 | manipura | i'm only around 800.. where you from coppice? |
| 08:51.52 | manipura | whats with people leaving, right when I ask them a question... |
| 08:52.12 | paulc | LOL.. dodgy breath? |
| 08:52.15 | paulc | I'm an evil fucker |
| 08:52.24 | paulc | the UK's about 5000 miles from Vancouver I think? |
| 08:52.26 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (~Steve_Und@128.206.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 08:52.32 | paulc | but 8000? hmm.. south of the equator |
| 08:52.38 | manipura | reminds me of asking my dad about drugs... He's always start twitching and go into the garage for a few hours |
| 08:53.06 | paulc | to roll a fat one? ;-) |
| 08:53.15 | manipura | paulc. its 5000 miles to the other side of canada from van |
| 08:53.17 | denon | arggggggggggggggggggggggggg |
| 08:53.27 | paulc | really? |
| 08:53.27 | paulc | no |
| 08:53.28 | denon | f'n DIA POS diagramming software |
| 08:53.29 | manipura | sorry, lets be canadian. Kilometers |
| 08:53.34 | paulc | yeah, that's more like it |
| 08:53.36 | denon | never, ever ever use DIA. |
| 08:53.36 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~kumbang@167.205.22.54) |
| 08:53.37 | paulc | 5000 km right? |
| 08:54.06 | denon | after and hour of design work .. one tool clock, poof .. it disappears, all my stuff unsaved |
| 08:54.19 | manipura | yeah, canada is about 5000 k/m wide |
| 08:55.02 | paulc | denon: lesson learnt - save regularly, save often |
| 08:55.09 | paulc | sorry to hear though - fucking HATE when that happens :-s |
| 08:55.12 | manipura | denon, I'll give you my one minute of silence, in rememberance of the time you lost |
| 08:55.47 | manipura | and the frustration it caused |
| 08:55.59 | manipura | and the lives it could have costed |
| 08:59.43 | denon | paulc: ya, but with a solid box, UPS and software, I usually dont have to worry about saving often.. |
| 08:59.50 | denon | think I'll go back to Visio |
| 09:00.33 | coppice | I wish I could go back to Visio 1.x. MS really screwed up a reasonable product |
| 09:00.36 | paulc | denon: yeah.. true dat.. |
| 09:00.59 | manipura | bjork has a irritating voice... |
| 09:02.02 | manipura | almost as bad a nelly furtado.. they both make me want to scape my nails on a chalk board just to drown out the sound of their voice's |
| 09:02.07 | paulc | grab "Who Is It" off her new Medula album.. it's kinda catchy.. not totally my cuppa tea but the other half wore me down |
| 09:02.25 | paulc | oh now c'mon.. I quite like a bit of Nelly F.. good Canadian girl :-) |
| 09:03.35 | manipura | yeah, she's from Vic. Really beautiful girl. but like bjork, nothing I can listen to for more than a few minutes before i get bored and try to swallow my own tounge for entertainment |
| 09:04.46 | *** join/#asterisk wildcard0 (~generic@24.81.51.99) |
| 09:04.51 | paulc | think I'm gonna hit the sack.. fucking knackered innit |
| 09:05.25 | manipura | alright, night paulc |
| 09:05.33 | wildcard0 | hey. im trying to get asterisk to work as a sip client behind a nat firewall to another asterisk box out on the net on a real ip |
| 09:05.53 | manipura | nat=yes? |
| 09:06.09 | wildcard0 | i set the externip and localnet variables. and sip debug shows contact going to the right address |
| 09:06.32 | wildcard0 | yes nat = yes |
| 09:07.21 | manipura | then I'm not the man to ask... LOL. Sorry, just learned what a Nat was a month ago |
| 09:07.43 | wildcard0 | it gets there. ethereal shows it being sent out, but it doesn't come back. i get an icmp reply 51.587392 x.x.x.x -> 10.0.0.31 ICMP Destination unreachable |
| 09:07.57 | wildcard0 | hehe |
| 09:08.37 | *** join/#asterisk postel (~postel@host217-42-116-153.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:08.57 | manipura | vpn? |
| 09:09.13 | wildcard0 | i don't control the other box |
| 09:09.21 | wildcard0 | or i'd be using iax over an ipsec tunnel |
| 09:09.21 | wildcard0 | heh |
| 09:10.21 | manipura | so its their box that can't register you because your behind a nat? |
| 09:11.03 | wildcard0 | im doing a register. im the client |
| 09:11.59 | manipura | you can't register? |
| 09:12.11 | wildcard0 | no. i can't get packets back from there |
| 09:12.28 | wildcard0 | i get that icmp reply from above |
| 09:12.29 | manipura | firewall? |
| 09:12.45 | wildcard0 | that is from ethereal running on the firewall on the outside port |
| 09:12.51 | manipura | Okay, sorry, I should have said. Don't listen to me, unless you wan to kill time.. Cause thats all I'm doing right now |
| 09:12.59 | wildcard0 | haha |
| 09:13.15 | manipura | what icmp? |
| 09:13.20 | manipura | *what's |
| 09:13.38 | manipura | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:13.39 | jbot | [icmp] Internet Control Message Protocol. or DO NOT BLOCK ALL ICMP or someone will thwack you and you will have deserved it., or use --state RELATED in iptables to selectively block and still have legal icmps pass |
| 09:14.57 | manipura | wildcard0, I think i'm having the same problem, but different |
| 09:15.06 | wildcard0 | how so? |
| 09:15.10 | manipura | I can't any sip clients to register with my * |
| 09:15.18 | wildcard0 | im totally tempted to write some lame ass perl proxy |
| 09:15.36 | manipura | I have a DID pointed at it, and when I call it, I get nothing on the CLI |
| 09:16.23 | wildcard0 | the sip client is out in the world and you're behind nat> |
| 09:16.24 | wildcard0 | ? |
| 09:16.30 | manipura | Even when I try to logon with x-lite, with sip debug, verbose is at least 8.. blah blah blah. |
| 09:17.00 | manipura | client might be behind nat. My * is a public ip |
| 09:17.36 | wildcard0 | does the asterisk box see the packets coming in? |
| 09:17.38 | manipura | I'm waiting for my firewall guy to get back from vacation to tell me if he can open up some shit for me |
| 09:17.54 | wildcard0 | what kind of firewall is it? |
| 09:18.00 | wildcard0 | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 09:18.01 | manipura | Don't know, don't know |
| 09:18.14 | wildcard0 | read that. it's helping me |
| 09:18.24 | manipura | how can I tell if it see's packets coming in? |
| 09:18.53 | wildcard0 | go on the firewall, type in tethereal --help and see if that program is installed |
| 09:18.58 | wildcard0 | you need to be root to do this |
| 09:18.59 | manipura | Yeah, except the fact, that i'm not using a nat |
| 09:19.11 | wildcard0 | but the client is you said |
| 09:19.21 | manipura | one of them... |
| 09:19.32 | wildcard0 | ah but the others aren't? |
| 09:19.35 | manipura | the DID isn't... |
| 09:19.49 | wildcard0 | DiD as in...direct inward dial? |
| 09:20.17 | manipura | yeah |
| 09:20.28 | manipura | something of that sort |
| 09:21.19 | wildcard0 | that's something that's provisioned on a phone line |
| 09:22.14 | manipura | i have a tollfree pointing at my * server, just to make sure, i got them to point it to another *, and it worked fine. the only difference with this new *, is it has some crazy iptables set up that I can't understand |
| 09:22.40 | manipura | if its not the iptables, I don't know what the #$%@ |
| 09:23.17 | wildcard0 | how many lines in the ip tables? what does iptables-save | wc -l say? |
| 09:23.54 | manipura | lots, and hold on |
| 09:24.09 | manipura | 107 |
| 09:24.26 | wildcard0 | that's not too bad |
| 09:24.59 | manipura | yeah, I just want it to open up to asterisk |
| 09:25.08 | wildcard0 | start with the forward table. what does iptables -L FORWARD say? |
| 09:25.15 | wildcard0 | ya...that's where you'd have to do that |
| 09:25.26 | wildcard0 | the forward table controls what goes to the machines behind it |
| 09:25.41 | manipura | ACCEPT all -- 192.168.0.0/16 anywhere |
| 09:25.41 | manipura | ACCEPT all -- anywhere 192.168.0.0/16 |
| 09:26.04 | manipura | the machines behind it? |
| 09:26.26 | wildcard0 | i assume that the asterisk box is on the 192.168.x.x network |
| 09:26.47 | wildcard0 | ? |
| 09:26.55 | manipura | Its just this machine public xxx.xxx.xxx.140 and .141 then their own 192.168.x.x |
| 09:27.28 | wildcard0 | is the asterisk box behind the firewall with those forwarding rules? |
| 09:27.40 | manipura | which is just .1 and .2 (patch?) cable, direct connected from comp to comp. |
| 09:27.50 | wildcard0 | whats the policy on that table? |
| 09:28.12 | manipura | drop? |
| 09:28.20 | wildcard0 | oh wait. the firewalla nd the asterisk box are the same machine? |
| 09:28.32 | manipura | i'm guessing... |
| 09:29.01 | manipura | Yes, its all on this machine, there are two machines on the network and they both have a public IP |
| 09:29.03 | wildcard0 | so if you do ps ax | grep asterisk on the firewall, it shows the process running? |
| 09:29.10 | wildcard0 | ok |
| 09:29.26 | wildcard0 | so it's the input and output rules |
| 09:29.28 | manipura | yeah yeah |
| 09:29.33 | wildcard0 | so look at iptables -L INPUT |
| 09:29.34 | wildcard0 | and |
| 09:29.43 | wildcard0 | iptables -L OUTPUT |
| 09:29.45 | manipura | ooo haven't seen that one yet |
| 09:30.10 | wildcard0 | input/output rules determine what comes to/from that specific box |
| 09:30.32 | *** join/#asterisk markit (~marco@host119-245.pool8172.interbusiness.it) |
| 09:30.44 | manipura | ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:5060 |
| 09:30.44 | manipura | ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:4569 |
| 09:30.44 | manipura | ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:5036 |
| 09:30.44 | manipura | ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpts:10000:20000 |
| 09:30.53 | manipura | INPUT, I added these! |
| 09:31.45 | wildcard0 | what's the policy on that table and output? drop also? |
| 09:31.59 | manipura | yep ? |
| 09:32.12 | wildcard0 | it shows it in that command |
| 09:32.35 | wildcard0 | like chain OUTPUT (policy DROP) |
| 09:32.45 | manipura | INPUt is drop... |
| 09:32.57 | manipura | OUTPUT is acce\pt |
| 09:33.02 | manipura | accept |
| 09:33.15 | *** join/#asterisk scardinal (~supreme@port816.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 09:33.27 | wildcard0 | well if you change input to accept while you're testing you can determine if it's the firewall rules or another issue |
| 09:33.42 | wildcard0 | also look at iptables -t nat -L to make sure that none of the ports are forward to other boxes |
| 09:33.58 | manipura | yes, but then I need to know how to do that, and be able to change it back.... Haven't gotten that far yet |
| 09:34.37 | manipura | there are no other box's |
| 09:35.13 | wildcard0 | iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT |
| 09:35.17 | manipura | Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) |
| 09:35.17 | manipura | target prot opt source destination |
| 09:35.17 | manipura | Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT) |
| 09:35.17 | manipura | target prot opt source destination |
| 09:35.17 | manipura | MASQUERADE all -- 192.168.13.0/24 anywhere |
| 09:35.18 | manipura | Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) |
| 09:35.19 | wildcard0 | iptables -P INPUT DROP to change it back |
| 09:35.20 | manipura | target prot opt source destination |
| 09:35.41 | manipura | iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT <- Nothing |
| 09:37.02 | wildcard0 | nothing? |
| 09:37.38 | manipura | it didn't show anything, but now I know it changed something |
| 09:37.43 | wildcard0 | oh ya |
| 09:37.50 | manipura | but still can't get anything to show in the CLI |
| 09:37.52 | wildcard0 | iptables -L INPUT will show you |
| 09:38.39 | manipura | http://pastebin.ca/1207 |
| 09:39.12 | *** join/#asterisk Brim (~Bimpens@D57709CB.kabel.telenet.be) |
| 09:39.24 | zoa | hey guys |
| 09:39.33 | zoa | how do i download asterisk-1.0.1 from cvs ? |
| 09:39.39 | wildcard0 | ok. that should make it so the firewall doesn't get in the way |
| 09:39.55 | manipura | 1.0.1 isn't a cvs is it? its a release |
| 09:40.02 | wildcard0 | zoa: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=download |
| 09:40.25 | zoa | no |
| 09:40.35 | wildcard0 | ok |
| 09:40.43 | wildcard0 | then the answer is that it wasn't tagged in cvs |
| 09:40.45 | zoa | i want to use cvs |
| 09:40.51 | zoa | hmmz |
| 09:40.52 | zoa | crap |
| 09:40.59 | zoa | then how can i download the latest stable version ? |
| 09:41.09 | wildcard0 | there are tarballs |
| 09:41.45 | zoa | those are not the latest versions |
| 09:41.50 | manipura | cvs is development. its not a stable version |
| 09:41.54 | wildcard0 | ftp://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/ |
| 09:41.57 | zoa | mo |
| 09:42.02 | zoa | there is a cvs for the stable version too |
| 09:42.05 | wildcard0 | they have 1.0.1 there |
| 09:42.13 | wildcard0 | not really. there' just cvs |
| 09:42.15 | zoa | well i need yesterdays 1.0.1 |
| 09:42.20 | zoa | thats not true |
| 09:42.34 | zoa | there used to be a -head branch and a normal branch |
| 09:42.42 | wildcard0 | ok well you obviously know better than i |
| 09:42.46 | zoa | :) |
| 09:42.47 | wildcard0 | so i dun think i can help |
| 09:43.08 | *** join/#asterisk jordix (~user1@D5E0CB44.kabel.telenet.be) |
| 09:43.22 | wildcard0 | i mean i've only been doing this for a year or so |
| 09:43.47 | manipura | I don't know either |
| 09:43.47 | zoa | i only do it for 15 months now :) |
| 09:43.53 | zoa | cvs checkout -r v1-0-1 asterisk zaptel libpri asterisk-sounds asterisk-addons is the correct solution i think |
| 09:44.01 | manipura | 2 or 3 for me :) |
| 09:44.12 | wildcard0 | then why are you here? |
| 09:44.19 | manipura | goo question |
| 09:44.22 | zoa | this would be the latest version for the 1.0.1 branch |
| 09:44.24 | manipura | *good |
| 09:44.31 | zoa | because i just had to look for that solution somewhere else :_ |
| 09:44.33 | zoa | :) |
| 09:44.39 | zoa | thought you'd already tried it |
| 09:44.47 | zoa | i didnt update since the release of the 1.0 |
| 09:44.56 | zoa | but i need a fix that was done yesterday |
| 09:46.05 | zoa | anybody seen problems with cisco phones and iax2 lately ? |
| 09:46.11 | manipura | wildcard0, I still see nothing coming in with sip debug. Is there any log I can see to know what my firewall is dropping/accepting? |
| 09:46.12 | zoa | it was resolved for a very long time |
| 09:46.17 | zoa | but i seem to have a new problem |
| 09:46.43 | manipura | zoa, canreinvite? I've had lots of problems with that |
| 09:46.49 | zoa | no i have audio |
| 09:46.52 | zoa | but its garbled |
| 09:47.00 | zoa | like very jittery |
| 09:47.05 | zoa | only when there is iax2 in between |
| 09:47.21 | zoa | cisco to cisco or to snom or to grandstream or to xpro or openphone or xlite |
| 09:47.23 | zoa | all is fine |
| 09:47.24 | wildcard0 | manipura, see if tcpdump or tethreal is installed |
| 09:47.27 | zoa | just to iax2 is bad |
| 09:48.27 | manipura | yeah, tcpdump shows a whole bunch of stuff... tethereal, no command |
| 09:49.05 | wildcard0 | tcpdump | grep <ip of client> |
| 09:49.08 | manipura | n/m tetheral does almost the same. Before I just forgot the 't' |
| 09:49.29 | wildcard0 | i like ethereal better personally |
| 09:49.57 | *** join/#asterisk bilb0 (tmaster@cpc4-staf1-3-0-cust163.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:49.59 | wildcard0 | tethereal -R "ip.src eq <client ip> or ip.dst eq <clinet ip>" |
| 09:50.16 | *** join/#asterisk gambolputty (~gambolput@cblmdm204-118-177-213.buckeye-express.com) |
| 09:51.34 | manipura | ICMP Destination unreachable |
| 09:52.12 | manipura | They come in, and get sent back as that |
| 09:52.54 | *** join/#asterisk JohnJacob (~JohnJacob@pcp619824pcs.mainf01.in.comcast.net) |
| 09:52.57 | wildcard0 | can you ping the client? :) |
| 09:53.28 | manipura | I sure hope so.... |
| 09:53.34 | manipura | Yep..... |
| 09:54.04 | wildcard0 | what is the client? another linux box? |
| 09:54.05 | manipura | Its the tollfree I'm calling, it gets sent to my * via SIP, |
| 09:54.16 | manipura | cisco 5400 |
| 09:54.21 | wildcard0 | ah |
| 09:54.32 | Brim | compiling on mac warning: passing arg 1 of `ast_localtime' from incompatible pointer type |
| 09:54.32 | Brim | comiling on mac |
| 09:54.35 | manipura | TDM, something stupid.. I'm no VOIP guru (yet) |
| 09:55.03 | *** join/#asterisk ScaredyCat (~ScaredyCa@a179019.upc-a.chello.nl) |
| 09:55.12 | wildcard0 | it's weird that you're getting an icmp message back |
| 09:55.14 | Brim | get ast_localtime incompatible pointer |
| 09:55.27 | manipura | that gets send to them |
| 09:55.30 | manipura | sent |
| 09:55.49 | wildcard0 | that's...odd |
| 09:55.52 | wildcard0 | why would you send that |
| 09:56.00 | wildcard0 | give me a paste of the ethereal stuff |
| 09:56.54 | manipura | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.54 | manipura | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.16 | manipura | 241 is the cisco, 140 is my * |
| 09:57.47 | wildcard0 | none of those x'd out parts are like 192.168 or 10.0.0 or something right? :) |
| 09:58.00 | manipura | no no, all public IP's |
| 09:58.03 | wildcard0 | ok |
| 09:58.04 | JamesDotCom | is there any better documents on using Asterisk with SER other than what's on voip-info.org? |
| 09:59.31 | zoa | nopez |
| 09:59.42 | manipura | jamesdorcom, don't know, but if you find any, you should add it to voip-info.org |
| 09:59.58 | JamesDotCom | good idea |
| 10:00.46 | wildcard0 | manipura, sure you're using the right ports? |
| 10:00.52 | manipura | wildcard0, any more ideas from that giant brian? |
| 10:01.06 | manipura | All 5060, all defaults |
| 10:01.24 | wildcard0 | heh it's 3am. im not sure i can find a brain at this point |
| 10:01.26 | manipura | sorry, not all 5060.... SIP5060 |
| 10:02.41 | manipura | sip.conf says 5060. its all the same * config files as the other * server that works |
| 10:02.53 | wildcard0 | hmm |
| 10:03.01 | manipura | thats why I'm so sure its a firewall thing |
| 10:03.20 | wildcard0 | hmm. does he have any weird firewall tables loaded? lsmod |
| 10:04.00 | manipura | is it safe to pastebin my iptables-L? |
| 10:04.10 | manipura | if that would help |
| 10:04.56 | wildcard0 | might as well add the lsmod output also so i can see if there are any strange mangle tables there |
| 10:06.04 | manipura | http://pastebin.ca/1209 |
| 10:06.43 | manipura | ah, stupid IE, posted it twice... 1210 as well... heh |
| 10:09.01 | wildcard0 | hmm there is a mangle table |
| 10:09.07 | wildcard0 | do iptables -t mangle -L |
| 10:09.12 | wildcard0 | see if it has anything |
| 10:09.42 | manipura | Yep, a few, wana see? |
| 10:09.45 | *** join/#asterisk carl3434 (~craeck@217-162-129-65.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 10:11.29 | wildcard0 | sure |
| 10:11.48 | manipura | http://pastebin.ca/1211 |
| 10:12.16 | wildcard0 | none of those should make a difference. they're only modifying TOS bits |
| 10:13.15 | manipura | Then why can't my box revieve sip? |
| 10:13.18 | *** join/#asterisk wasim (~wasim@203.81.216.140) |
| 10:13.44 | wildcard0 | hmm. netstat -ap |
| 10:13.51 | wildcard0 | look for the port opened there |
| 10:15.16 | manipura | under inode? |
| 10:15.51 | wildcard0 | above that |
| 10:16.18 | wildcard0 | under local address. the foreign address should be *:* |
| 10:16.23 | wildcard0 | cause it's listening |
| 10:16.49 | manipura | udp 0 0 *:5060 *:* 2293/asterisk |
| 10:17.22 | wildcard0 | ok so the port's open |
| 10:17.52 | *** join/#asterisk inspired (mikael@a217-118-63-4.bluecom.no) |
| 10:19.02 | manipura | this is a tough channelenge isn't it? I couldn't imagine doing this by myself |
| 10:19.11 | wildcard0 | haha |
| 10:19.23 | manipura | I thanks for the help though |
| 10:19.28 | wildcard0 | np |
| 10:20.03 | manipura | Any other ideas? |
| 10:21.11 | wildcard0 | hmm |
| 10:23.05 | wildcard0 | is the port open on the other end? the cisco box? |
| 10:23.37 | manipura | most likely. the same cisco box points to another asterisk box I have |
| 10:23.56 | wildcard0 | but is the port open just for the other ip? |
| 10:24.41 | manipura | you mean is it able to recieve this IP? |
| 10:24.45 | *** join/#asterisk scardinal (~supreme@port816.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 10:26.48 | manipura | tethereal gives me the same thing when trying to log in with x-lite |
| 10:27.43 | wildcard0 | paste me the output of the tethereal with a -V also |
| 10:27.47 | wildcard0 | it'll be longer |
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| 10:30.33 | manipura | with the grep, nothing of interesting, just source ip and dest ip |
| 10:31.09 | manipura | nothing of interest.. My english is really off tonight.. Thats bad considering its the only language I know |
| 10:31.39 | manipura | But just, tethereal -V gives me lots of crap, some in hex, some not, but there's too much of it for me to see |
| 10:34.31 | wildcard0 | it's the contents of the packets you care about |
| 10:35.46 | manipura | yeah, teth grep 5060 showed me somthing |
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| 10:36.53 | Dobaj | anyone installed mpg123 on an AMD64 chip with Fedora Core2 64-bit? |
| 10:37.07 | manipura | again, i don't know if its interesting, just the same thing repeating it |
| 10:40.04 | wildcard0 | it might be. it depends what's in the packets |
| 10:41.41 | manipura | wildcard0 http://pastebin.ca/1212 |
| 10:44.33 | wildcard0 | there aren't any packets with a Session Initiation Protocol section? |
| 10:45.54 | manipura | uuuuuuhhhh??? |
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| 10:53.57 | wildcard0 | bedtime for me. nite |
| 10:59.26 | manipura | thanks anyway, night wildcard0 |
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| 11:53.55 | gambolputty | http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040930.html Creative uses of Asterisk and wireless |
| 11:54.33 | chris_jones | Has anyone got a TDM400P 4-FXO to work with kernel 4.6.8-1.521? |
| 11:59.22 | PatrickDK | I didn't know 4.6.8 was out yet |
| 11:59.28 | PatrickDK | though they where still on 2.6 |
| 11:59.36 | chap | Its an advance copy. :) |
| 12:00.01 | PatrickDK | hmm, looking for a new raid card |
| 12:00.02 | chris_jones | I'm special :) After working on this for about 18 hours straight now. ;( |
| 12:00.05 | PatrickDK | for my ivr server |
| 12:01.11 | twisted | one name: 3ware |
| 12:01.32 | PatrickDK | for ide, probably will |
| 12:01.47 | PatrickDK | I'm just used to adaptec scsi raids |
| 12:01.56 | chap | twisted: what do you think of Promise? |
| 12:03.07 | twisted | promise is okay, but fwiw, i've known people who fight battles to get promise cards to work properly under linux |
| 12:03.37 | twisted | since adaptec cards init at boot, and use their own bios, they're usually not an issue |
| 12:04.10 | chap | twisted: Thats worth considering. I am going to have to go to raid at some point. Just like I will stay away from VIA boards as much as possible. |
| 12:04.21 | twisted | heh |
| 12:04.22 | PatrickDK | via is evil |
| 12:04.45 | twisted | i've been running my pbx at home on a via M10000 board for about a year now |
| 12:04.47 | twisted | no problems |
| 12:10.37 | chap | twisted: What cards? I have some x100ps on a via board that for me is running quite well, except for the intermittent failed CLID information. Just read the lists and archives is where I am hearing that the VIA is something to stay away from. |
| 12:11.30 | coppice | old vias were nasty. newer ones are not so bad |
| 12:13.15 | chap | coppice: I see... Mine is about 2 years old, I guess. I am not really a hardware/chipsets type of guy. |
| 12:13.25 | twisted | chap, i'm running a t100p on it qutie fine |
| 12:13.40 | twisted | there's only 1 pci slot on the M10000 |
| 12:13.46 | twisted | of course, it's a mini-itx |
| 12:14.44 | chap | twisted: excellent. Thanks. |
| 12:15.02 | twisted | np. Mind you, you can expand to more than one pci slot using a cable riser |
| 12:15.41 | twisted | or, depending on your chassis, a regular pci riser |
| 12:16.06 | twisted | i origionally bought the board to be a tiny mythtv backend |
| 12:16.22 | twisted | but then i decided it could make a great box for a pbx... and it does |
| 12:18.11 | chap | The mythtv thing is also interesting. I am getting quite tired of VCR tapes. And FF/Rewind. |
| 12:18.40 | twisted | heh |
| 12:18.40 | *** part/#asterisk martijn_ (~martijn@i132150.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 12:18.42 | twisted | dvd's are your friend |
| 12:19.26 | PatrickDK | heh, I'm really liking the replaytv |
| 12:19.44 | twisted | heh... my cable provider even gives me on-demand |
| 12:19.54 | chap | DVD's are great, we rent/buy those. But I do like to watch TV, and with Myth I could set the schedule, and even log in from remote to tell it to record something. |
| 12:19.56 | twisted | pause/ff/rew/etc |
| 12:20.08 | twisted | chap, yep |
| 12:20.11 | twisted | and when mixed with * |
| 12:20.17 | twisted | you can call in and do it, too :) |
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| 12:20.51 | twisted | exten => 732,1,Cepstral("Welcome to Myth Tee Vee") |
| 12:20.58 | twisted | exten => 732,1,Cepstral("Please enter the channel number to record") |
| 12:21.06 | twisted | etc. |
| 12:21.45 | twisted | 732,2, even. |
| 12:21.50 | chap | yes. Like Expect, only tons better. :) |
| 12:22.07 | twisted | my goal for the end of the year is total home automation via * |
| 12:22.42 | chap | What kind of unit are you going to use for the Thermostat? |
| 12:22.45 | twisted | everything from recoding shows, controlling the heat/air in zones, etc. |
| 12:22.55 | twisted | chap: google for "DIY Zoning" |
| 12:22.58 | PatrickDK | that isn't hard |
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| 12:23.06 | PatrickDK | you can get telephone interfaces |
| 12:23.09 | twisted | yep |
| 12:23.13 | PatrickDK | or even 4 wire interfaces |
| 12:23.27 | PatrickDK | all the new carrier/bryant stuff is 4 wire now |
| 12:23.34 | twisted | x10 for electrical outlets, maybe even use x10 + a couple relays for my heat/air |
| 12:23.36 | chap | I could use something like that down at my office. |
| 12:23.36 | PatrickDK | rs-432 I think |
| 12:23.41 | twisted | also for lights |
| 12:24.11 | twisted | of course |
| 12:24.20 | twisted | i'm also that geek who will attach high-torque servos to my blinds |
| 12:24.26 | twisted | and be able to open the blinds/windows from remote |
| 12:24.45 | twisted | not to mention door locks, etc. |
| 12:24.56 | PatrickDK | while twisted is getting busy |
| 12:25.12 | twisted | lol |
| 12:25.48 | twisted | well, i'm already using * to have the front gate call my home and cell phones |
| 12:26.00 | twisted | so i can answer the gate calls even if i'm not home, and let people in |
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| 12:26.06 | wow | hi |
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| 12:26.44 | twisted | of course |
| 12:26.47 | chap | Nice project. Pull up a webpage showing status of everything. I will submit you to slasdot once you get it done. ;P |
| 12:26.54 | twisted | first priority is silencing the rack of equipment in the side room |
| 12:27.08 | twisted | it's quite noisy |
| 12:28.09 | PatrickDK | heh, noise |
| 12:28.20 | twisted | well |
| 12:28.20 | PatrickDK | get some nice 72db fans going |
| 12:28.31 | PatrickDK | my servers are loaded with them |
| 12:28.31 | twisted | it reminds me of a server |
| 12:28.34 | twisted | only 3 times as loud |
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| 12:28.53 | twisted | and that's WITH the side panels on and the doors to the rack shut |
| 12:29.14 | twisted | should hear it with the doors open/off and the panels off |
| 12:30.23 | twisted | there are 3 servers, a channel bank (which is one of the primary noise sources), a 24 port switch (loads more noise), wireless access point, environmental monitoring, etc |
| 12:30.34 | wow | topic is to wide |
| 12:30.36 | twisted | oh yea, and the phone patch panel |
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| 12:31.03 | twisted | 8hr battery backup, etc. |
| 12:31.53 | twisted | i need to get a 4u, 2u, and a 1u rack-mount enclosure |
| 12:31.54 | PatrickDK | heh, I have two 48port patch panels, 6 servers, 3000w ups + extra battery, 26port switch, 12 port gige switch, cisco 1760, and kvm |
| 12:32.21 | twisted | yeah, i only have a single 48port patch |
| 12:32.27 | twisted | 24 ports of voice, 24 ports of data |
| 12:32.30 | wow | is there any possibility to use asterisk server at home ? |
| 12:32.37 | twisted | wow: I already do |
| 12:32.43 | PatrickDK | wow, who doesn't? |
| 12:32.44 | twisted | wow: use your imagination man |
| 12:33.04 | wow | i have granstream ip phone |
| 12:33.10 | twisted | oooh! a barbietone! |
| 12:33.11 | wow | and three linux boxes |
| 12:33.21 | twisted | heh.. |
| 12:33.34 | wow | adsl 1 2M |
| 12:33.37 | PatrickDK | atleast so you can use some descent wireless phones |
| 12:33.55 | twisted | i have a cisco 7960, cisco 7905, barbietone (for paperweight), a 24fxs channelbank, IAXy, and a few other fun things at home |
| 12:34.37 | twisted | 7960 is running on wireless |
| 12:34.47 | twisted | with everything else that's not in the rack |
| 12:35.12 | PatrickDK | heh, I do wired everything |
| 12:35.21 | PatrickDK | wireless is only for laptops and stuff like that |
| 12:35.26 | twisted | well |
| 12:35.28 | twisted | so far |
| 12:35.40 | twisted | haven't had any problems running everything (except for whats in the rack) off wireless |
| 12:35.44 | twisted | 7960 handles it QUITE well |
| 12:35.58 | twisted | of course, i'm also doing 802.11g |
| 12:36.04 | PatrickDK | I just install network jacks in the wall |
| 12:36.09 | twisted | yeah |
| 12:36.11 | twisted | but i'm lazy |
| 12:36.21 | PatrickDK | heh, but then, most of my stuff is gigabit |
| 12:36.32 | PatrickDK | except for the voip phones, that use poe |
| 12:37.27 | twisted | i don't like cables running everywhere |
| 12:37.37 | twisted | there are 5 cables that leave the rack |
| 12:37.48 | PatrickDK | if they are in the wall, and you put the jacks in the correct place, you don't have them running everywhere |
| 12:37.58 | twisted | power, coax (for the cablemodem), and three 6 pair telephone lines |
| 12:38.13 | PatrickDK | longest patch cable I use is like 3 feet |
| 12:38.27 | PatrickDK | except in the rack |
| 12:38.27 | twisted | haha.. yeah, but then you have cables running everywhere still |
| 12:38.33 | twisted | WALLS do count |
| 12:38.43 | PatrickDK | heh, inside walls don't count :) |
| 12:38.48 | twisted | sure they do |
| 12:38.50 | twisted | in my book |
| 12:38.55 | PatrickDK | unless you drive a nail through it |
| 12:39.29 | twisted | but then again, when I get a house, i'm going to have it built |
| 12:39.33 | twisted | so that the walls are modular |
| 12:39.58 | twisted | (interior walls, that is |
| 12:40.00 | twisted | ) |
| 12:43.29 | Darwin35 | whats the kernel option for fbsd for timing |
| 12:43.35 | Darwin35 | I cant find it |
| 12:43.38 | PatrickDK | options HZ |
| 12:43.41 | PatrickDK | option HZ |
| 12:43.46 | Darwin35 | its itok |
| 12:43.56 | jordix | Anyone tried running asterisk on a Dell 750 (S-ATA drives) or 1850 system (SCSI drives) ? |
| 12:44.32 | jordix | I am running RH9.0 on this too |
| 12:44.43 | postel | jordix: * doesnt care if its on an SATA/PATA drive |
| 12:44.57 | postel | jordix: i have * running on sparcs |
| 12:45.13 | jordix | I guess it should be OK for IDE or SATA ... but I heard a lot |
| 12:45.19 | postel | jordix: your OS does care, * does NOT ;-) |
| 12:45.19 | jordix | of issues with the SCSi drives |
| 12:45.44 | jordix | in combination with digium PRi cards |
| 12:46.13 | postel | jordix: care to post some links here of the things you "heard" |
| 12:46.16 | postel | ? |
| 12:47.00 | jordix | postel : I'll check ... but in fact this was on the Users mailing list |
| 12:49.10 | zoa | twisted |
| 12:49.27 | zoa | did you ever get that ${hangupcause} working ? |
| 12:49.28 | Darwin35 | custom case day |
| 12:50.57 | Darwin35 | local linux group is having a custamize your case day |
| 12:51.12 | Darwin35 | this will be fun |
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| 12:58.02 | onixx | hi all ! I've having issue with busydetect=yes in zaptel.conf... when I'm using the zap channel, I get unpredictable hangup... |
| 12:58.34 | onixx | can see in debug that a busy signal is detected (from my conversation hehe !!!) |
| 12:58.40 | onixx | anything I can do about that |
| 12:58.49 | onixx | (other than disabling it) |
| 12:59.00 | Afflatus | busycount=8 |
| 12:59.31 | onixx | great !!! that's exactly what I want ! |
| 12:59.31 | onixx | I was about to ask if there was a timer of some sort hehe !! |
| 13:00.36 | Afflatus | from a softphone I'm trying to flash a zap channel & dial some digits - use the telco's 3way features etc, without asterisk hanging up the softphone.. anyideas? |
| 13:00.52 | onixx | sorry not zaptel.conf but zapata.conf ;) ! thanks very much Afflatus |
| 13:01.03 | Afflatus | yer, zapata |
| 13:01.26 | Afflatus | I can do this... |
| 13:01.26 | Afflatus | exten => _3XX,1,Flash() |
| 13:01.26 | Afflatus | exten => _3XX,2,SendDTMF,${EXTEN:1} |
| 13:01.27 | onixx | Afflatus: I've been looking for that before... for call waiting ! |
| 13:01.38 | onixx | it works... but not during a call ! |
| 13:01.41 | Afflatus | and use a transfer - but that cuts off the softphone |
| 13:02.09 | onixx | you want it during a call ? |
| 13:02.14 | Afflatus | yer |
| 13:02.31 | Afflatus | ..anybody :) ? |
| 13:02.57 | onixx | what if you use # |
| 13:03.11 | jordix | postel: there was some discussion on the users mailing list concerning IDE, SCSI, SATA, etc ... http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-July/thread.html |
| 13:03.48 | onixx | and add 2 lines... |
| 13:04.11 | tzanger | fuck me |
| 13:04.14 | onixx | ring back the phone |
| 13:04.21 | tzanger | not only did I leave the car door open all night, but it also rained |
| 13:04.26 | chap | ouch. |
| 13:04.42 | chap | perhaps some neighbor cats also peed in there. That is always a nice touch. |
| 13:04.47 | tzanger | chap hahaha |
| 13:05.02 | tzanger | I don't have any neighbour cats; I'm out in the country |
| 13:05.05 | tzanger | raccoon maybe |
| 13:05.17 | zoa | maybe a cow passed ? |
| 13:05.23 | chap | I have left windows open before, and cats peed in there. That is one hell of a smell to get rid of. Thank god for Fabreeze. Works quite well. |
| 13:05.30 | tzanger | jesus |
| 13:05.36 | tzanger | no I've never had that trouble |
| 13:05.48 | zoa | i used to live in a student home |
| 13:05.57 | zoa | where cats would use fire escape ladders |
| 13:06.01 | zoa | to enter a room |
| 13:06.04 | zoa | on any floor |
| 13:06.11 | zoa | where they found an open window |
| 13:06.22 | zoa | so if you went to a bathroom on the 3rd floor |
| 13:06.27 | tzanger | zoa that's what a bb gun is for |
| 13:06.28 | zoa | there might be a wild cat in there |
| 13:06.42 | chris_jones | Has anyone had any success on getting a TDM04P card to work in Fedora 2, kernel 2.6.8-1.521? |
| 13:07.07 | jordix | zoa: I don't mind having a wild pussy in my bathroom |
| 13:07.51 | tzanger | jordix: hahaha |
| 13:07.56 | chap | chris_jones: I don't have the answer specifically, but there has been discussion about getting various cards working under 2.6 in the lists. Probably read back over the archives. |
| 13:08.10 | zoa | tzanger |
| 13:08.15 | zoa | did you ever try out hangupcause ? |
| 13:09.27 | tzanger | no not yet |
| 13:09.32 | tzanger | I didn' tknow it was fixed |
| 13:10.02 | zoa | haha looks like its not |
| 13:10.10 | zoa | and that dial||g is not working either |
| 13:11.19 | Afflatus | yeah, np |
| 13:11.20 | Afflatus | exten => _4XX,1,Flash() |
| 13:11.20 | Afflatus | exten => _4XX,2,SendDTMF,${EXTEN:1} |
| 13:11.20 | Afflatus | exten => _4XX,3,Dial(IAX2/aliax,20,tr) |
| 13:11.49 | Afflatus | it seems a little clumsy though |
| 13:12.07 | onixx | Afflatus... does it work ? |
| 13:12.14 | Afflatus | yer |
| 13:12.23 | Afflatus | ..but it seems clumsy |
| 13:12.34 | Afflatus | -> that you should have to hangup at all. |
| 13:13.06 | tzanger | zoa: haha |
| 13:13.16 | onixx | well, that's good... I'm sure there are other ways... but you'd need to modify the code |
| 13:13.41 | onixx | Afflatus... for you own purpose, you could change the # key to flash instead... |
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| 13:15.30 | Pkunk | process_rfc3389: Don't know how to handle RFC3389 for receive codec 2 |
| 13:16.13 | Pkunk | rtp.c:275 process_rfc3389: RFC3389 support incomplete. Turn off on client if possible |
| 13:16.29 | Pkunk | how do i "turn" it off ? |
| 13:16.31 | zoa | pkunk |
| 13:16.42 | zoa | happy hunting if you have 10000 users |
| 13:16.43 | zoa | :p |
| 13:16.54 | indigo | when i start asterisk it says, "Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe"...is there some place i need to tell it what device to use? |
| 13:17.06 | Pkunk | zoa: i have no SIP clients |
| 13:17.40 | Pkunk | zoa: i'm calling to an SIP gateway using Dial command when this hapens sometimes |
| 13:19.42 | zoa | well turn out VAD |
| 13:19.55 | zoa | voice activity detection on that sip gateway |
| 13:23.47 | Pkunk | i can't . It's just a cheap VOIP gateway i have an account in |
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| 13:24.30 | Pkunk | is there any way to disable it in the asterisk client ? |
| 13:24.42 | Pkunk | or should i use another codec instead of GSM ? |
| 13:26.48 | PatrickDK | pkunk, your out of luck |
| 13:26.59 | indigo | can someone please give me a hint as to why asterisk will not start? http://rafb.net/paste/results/S2YOQe35.html |
| 13:27.16 | inv_arp | quick q: if i have an office with 17 people and i want to use a voip provider do i need an account per person? |
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| 13:27.47 | PatrickDK | inv_arp, depends on the provider |
| 13:28.04 | Pkunk | inv_arp: iconnecthere , you need seperate accounts |
| 13:28.11 | PatrickDK | I would personally use voicepulse connect, or nufone |
| 13:28.22 | PatrickDK | then you don't |
| 13:28.30 | inv_arp | PatrickDK: i would prefer the office to share minutes |
| 13:28.40 | PatrickDK | incoming or outgoing? |
| 13:28.46 | inv_arp | outgoing |
| 13:29.00 | PatrickDK | if outgoing only, nufone or voicepulse connect will work |
| 13:29.16 | PatrickDK | incoming is a different problem with voip providers at the moment |
| 13:30.06 | gambolputty | anyone know about hints in extensions? |
| 13:30.11 | Pkunk | PatrickDK: like there is no RFC3389 support even with g.729 ? |
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| 13:31.03 | inv_arp | PatrickDK: so i would have to get a bulk of minutes or i can get a plan? |
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| 13:32.42 | gonzo- | Hi. I have problem with H.323 connection for Asterisk<-->ATA |
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| 13:33.06 | gonzo- | asterisk answers, but Playback() generates no rtp data |
| 13:33.16 | gonzo- | there is no audio :( |
| 13:34.14 | gonzo- | Meanwhile the Sipura<->Asterisk works fine |
| 13:34.45 | indigo | &*()()**&FG!@# |
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| 13:36.36 | PatrickDK | inv_arp, no, they charge by the min, no bulk min or anything |
| 13:36.47 | PatrickDK | but what you need is multible outgoing lines |
| 13:37.26 | inv_arp | PatrickDK: ahh k |
| 13:37.59 | inv_arp | PatrickDK: gonna split up between three offices trying to see my best options |
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| 13:43.48 | inv_arp | gonna have 3 offices running * using vpn to contact each other, and just trying to figure out how these voip provider werk |
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| 14:07.08 | onixx | is there a way to merge 2 patch ... because doing patch1 then patch2 will not work... they're both based on the cvs ? |
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| 14:07.46 | Wonka | onixx: patchutils |
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| 14:08.45 | revenga | hello |
| 14:09.25 | onixx | Wonka... this is a package ? |
| 14:09.52 | Wonka | onixx: a debian package, yes |
| 14:10.10 | onixx | Wonka: what's the command called.. I use slackware |
| 14:10.33 | Wonka | combinediff would be the command you're looking for |
| 14:11.00 | Wonka | via packages.debian.org/patchutils you should be able to get the sources for the package |
| 14:11.07 | Wonka | and compile it yourself |
| 14:11.16 | onixx | ok... have to look for that .. |
| 14:11.58 | onixx | Wonka: does combinediff tries to be smart... or it just merge the 2 |
| 14:12.04 | Wonka | don't know |
| 14:12.14 | Wonka | but if something does it, then combinediff |
| 14:13.01 | Darwin35 | * needs voice control for handicaped users |
| 14:14.07 | Darwin35 | thats the only thing I see that really needs to be addedd asap |
| 14:16.15 | onixx | thanks wonka, I think I'll need the source.. can't find a package in slackware other than diffutils |
| 14:19.05 | Wonka | that could it be, too |
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| 14:25.43 | B0ngFrOg | morn .... |
| 14:28.56 | Mike | anyone has a changelog on asterisk 1.0.1 |
| 14:28.57 | Mike | ? |
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| 14:30.47 | christo | aye |
| 14:30.54 | UnaCoder | ayee |
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| 14:48.20 | onixx | anyone have this after compiling the latest cvs : Ouch ... error while writing audio data |
| 14:48.44 | onixx | Wonka: thanks for the advice on combinepatch... it works ! |
| 14:50.51 | routerheads_atho | onixx:Last night there were a lot of complaints about cvs |
| 14:51.14 | onixx | okay... so cvs is broken |
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| 14:52.50 | christo | How can I get my asterisk box handle calls in the format SIP:3000@machine.domain.tld ? |
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| 14:55.29 | onixx | well, if anyone got the latest cvs ... let me know |
| 15:00.31 | onixx | routerheads_atho: got it to work |
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| 15:00.44 | onixx | I just did make clean and recompile |
| 15:00.50 | onixx | kinda odd |
| 15:01.07 | meebey | is it possible to let more than 1 telephone (SIP/IAX2 clients) rining for incoming calls? |
| 15:01.50 | meebey | I tried something like this: |
| 15:01.51 | meebey | exten => 41266495,1,Dial(SIP/meebey,30,rt) |
| 15:01.52 | meebey | exten => 41266495,1,Dial(IAX2/meebey,30,rt) |
| 15:02.14 | meebey | but that fails, if I use different priority, then the first client will be ringed, and after that one the next |
| 15:02.22 | meebey | I want to both ring at the same time |
| 15:02.55 | _RaYmAn_ | Dial(SIP/meebey&IAX2/meebey,30,rt) etc is the syntax (i.e. & to seperate) |
| 15:03.15 | meebey | oh thats what I missed :) |
| 15:03.17 | _RaYmAn_ | first one to pickup gets the call -> phone stops ringing everywhere |
| 15:03.17 | meebey | thanks |
| 15:03.25 | meebey | yeah perfect |
| 15:03.43 | onixx | meebey: ALLINTERN=SIP/2205&SIP/2206&SIP/2208&SIP/2209 |
| 15:03.55 | onixx | meebey: exten => s,1,Dial(${ALLINTERN},20,TtH) |
| 15:04.29 | meebey | I am connecting my zaurus btw ;) |
| 15:05.27 | gonzo- | Another one question. Now i got SIP -> H.323 running. But i'd like RTP data to go directly between endpoints - is this possible? |
| 15:07.33 | meebey | canreinvite=yes AFAIK |
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| 15:14.33 | dan2 | how do I set callerid appropriately for broadvoice since in the SIP headers where name is, broadvoice doesn't include it |
| 15:14.45 | dan2 | so I need to grab the number from the sipuri |
| 15:16.48 | Darwin35 | cd /home/aster |
| 15:17.11 | Darwin35 | is anyone making dumb telephone cards like onthe opencall site |
| 15:19.06 | Darwin35 | is anyone making the zapata cards ? |
| 15:20.47 | gonzo- | meebey: canreinvite=no :) |
| 15:20.47 | gonzo- | but it wont do direct connection |
| 15:20.47 | gonzo- | asterisk will bridge channels in H.323<->SIP case |
| 15:20.47 | gonzo- | That's how it works for me |
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| 15:31.32 | indigo | it seems asterisk is not building meetme...is there something i must do to make it build? |
| 15:32.07 | watchy | it should |
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| 15:33.56 | indigo | hum :/ |
| 15:34.06 | indigo | well, i finally got ztdummy to build |
| 15:34.14 | indigo | but now it won't build meetme :D |
| 15:34.48 | watchy | ztdummy is leet |
| 15:34.53 | watchy | it works pretty good on linux |
| 15:35.16 | watchy | i really didn't think meetme would work so well without a card |
| 15:35.47 | indigo | it looks like it can't find linux/zaptel.h |
| 15:36.10 | watchy | make install zaptel first |
| 15:36.14 | watchy | then recompile it |
| 15:37.05 | indigo | hm...that's problematic :) |
| 15:37.11 | watchy | why? |
| 15:37.14 | indigo | is it just zaptel.h? |
| 15:37.28 | indigo | because i have to build asterisk and the kernel module on separate filesystems |
| 15:37.29 | watchy | probably more then just that |
| 15:37.36 | watchy | you could copy it to the asterisk dirs |
| 15:37.54 | watchy | and change the paths to the includes |
| 15:38.08 | watchy | but that might be alot of trouble |
| 15:38.48 | indigo | hm...i think i got it |
| 15:39.03 | indigo | this thing is on a rented server, and it's running debian chrooted on redhat |
| 15:39.15 | indigo | so i'm building asterisk in debian, but ztdummy in rh |
| 15:39.26 | indigo | makes things exciting :) |
| 15:39.29 | watchy | wtf aer you doing that |
| 15:39.43 | indigo | because redhat blows |
| 15:39.56 | watchy | why not do them both on debian |
| 15:40.10 | indigo | i don't have the kernel sources and such installed in debian |
| 15:40.15 | watchy | o |
| 15:40.16 | watchy | h |
| 15:40.26 | indigo | anyway, i built the ztdummy on rh, then copied it to the debian fs, then ran make install |
| 15:40.34 | indigo | seems to have installed the header files |
| 15:40.41 | watchy | i like asterisk on gentoo myself |
| 15:40.52 | indigo | i was trying that here at home |
| 15:41.01 | indigo | it segfaults when i start it |
| 15:41.22 | watchy | wierd i have 2 boxes with it |
| 15:41.35 | watchy | i even setup an 800# through nufone to route to it for testing |
| 15:41.47 | watchy | seems to work great |
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| 15:42.07 | indigo | are you running a 2.6 kernel? |
| 15:42.23 | watchy | yep on both |
| 15:42.27 | indigo | hum :/ |
| 15:42.31 | indigo | i'm just unlucky then :( |
| 15:42.40 | watchy | asterisk 1.0? |
| 15:42.54 | cjk_ | hi, is there anything special i need to do to get g723.1 working |
| 15:44.00 | indigo | whohoo! |
| 15:44.03 | indigo | it works! |
| 15:44.06 | indigo | watchy: yeah |
| 15:44.17 | indigo | watchy: i'm not too worried about it though, because it works on the server now :) |
| 15:44.46 | indigo | it makes me feel like i'm going to work, because we do a conf call every morning |
| 15:45.55 | indigo | well, awesomeness. |
| 15:46.22 | indigo | now i need to figure out how to record the conference |
| 15:49.50 | watchy | i'm going to work. one of my biggest customers just called with issues. enjoy indigo best of luck to ya |
| 15:55.01 | indigo | thanks |
| 15:59.00 | file | cjk_: asterisk only supports G723 passthrough, meaning both sides need to be using G723 |
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| 16:03.56 | ariel_ | afternoon all |
| 16:04.04 | indigo | yo |
| 16:06.45 | sung | ariel. |
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| 16:10.13 | ariel_ | hello sung |
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| 16:18.57 | p0lar | Is there any way to 'trunk' or 'route' calls coming in from an IAX peer (trunk) out through a H.323 gatekeeper? |
| 16:19.02 | p0lar | or gateway -- I'm unsure. |
| 16:23.58 | ariel_ | p0lar, yes have the iax peer to it's own context and in the context send it to where you want. |
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| 16:32.10 | redder86 | anyone tried out Steve Underwood's spandsp-0.0.2 ? |
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| 16:32.31 | redder86 | it's supposed to support that new pseudo-modem thing that he's working on |
| 16:33.49 | Damin | OK.. |
| 16:34.35 | Damin | I'm at Linuxfest and someone wants to hear a festival demo.. |
| 16:35.03 | Damin | Is there anyone that has one? |
| 16:36.08 | redder86 | in exchange for a Linuxfestival demo? |
| 16:36.18 | p0lar | ariel_: ok, at the moment, I have context=* |
| 16:37.02 | p0lar | in iax.conf: |
| 16:37.07 | p0lar | [iax_gate] |
| 16:37.11 | p0lar | [type=peer] |
| 16:37.21 | p0lar | host=192.168.3.200 |
| 16:37.29 | p0lar | context=* |
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| 16:37.34 | p0lar | qualify=yes |
| 16:37.34 | PatrickDK | ~pastebin |
| 16:37.35 | jbot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca |
| 16:37.37 | p0lar | trunk=yes |
| 16:37.57 | p0lar | so I should set context=iax_gate (?) |
| 16:38.19 | PatrickDK | put your iax.conf and extentions.conf in pastebin |
| 16:38.29 | p0lar | got it |
| 16:38.38 | redder86 | context is the extensions context where you want the iax2 call to go |
| 16:39.03 | redder86 | coppice: hi Steve |
| 16:39.51 | coppice | hi |
| 16:39.55 | redder86 | coppice: can you give me some pointers on getting the pseudo-modems running with spandsp-0.0.2 ? Do I need to have rxfax and txfax built and stuff? |
| 16:40.29 | coppice | by pseudo modems do you mean something HylaFAX can use? |
| 16:40.37 | redder86 | coppice: I'm Lee. Yes. |
| 16:40.41 | p0lar | http://pastebin.ca/1213 |
| 16:40.59 | indigo | what do i need to do to get h.323 working with * ? |
| 16:41.05 | p0lar | oops.. one sec.. need to do extensions. |
| 16:41.12 | redder86 | coppice: I determined that the .xml error that I sent to you during the build is non-consequential. |
| 16:41.13 | p0lar | nice application -- pastebin |
| 16:41.35 | PatrickDK | and what about extentions.conf? |
| 16:42.11 | redder86 | coppice: and I did a make install, but now what? do I build and install rxfax and txfax?... or how do I send a call to a pseudo modem? |
| 16:42.15 | coppice | redder86: hi Lee. The pseudo modems don't really work. There is a half implemented class 1 interface. I made a quite botch one day to make it all hang together and transfer a FAX image. It still needs quite a bit of work, though |
| 16:42.53 | coppice | rxfax anf txfax are to tie spandsp directly into *. not for pseudo modem use |
| 16:42.57 | redder86 | coppice: I would like to work on it myself, but I've not a clue where to start or how it's even supposed to work. I've never used rxfax or txfax before. |
| 16:43.50 | redder86 | coppice: I can code, and I am quite familiar with Class 1. |
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| 16:44.01 | coppice | start with t31.c T.31 is the class 1 FAX modem spec. in t31.c there is an AT emulator that needs some work |
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| 16:44.38 | dan2 | anybody home? |
| 16:44.42 | RealLost1 | no |
| 16:44.53 | RealLost1 | we are all working |
| 16:44.55 | JerJer | he's lost and i'm sleeping |
| 16:45.00 | RealLost1 | heh |
| 16:45.08 | dan2 | I need MWI working from BroadVoice |
| 16:45.11 | redder86 | coppice: okay. How is it intended to interface with Asterisk? And how is it intended to produce a device node? |
| 16:45.12 | coppice | t31_tests.c is the code I used to driver the AT emulator while testing. that's where it stands right now |
| 16:45.19 | dan2 | what do I have to do to make it ring my phone |
| 16:45.22 | dan2 | stutter or whatever |
| 16:46.15 | p0lar | ok, extensions.conf is in there.. |
| 16:46.26 | p0lar | This really is, imho, a very simple application |
| 16:46.30 | coppice | i started t31_tests.c when I was using FC1. it uses BSD style pseudo ttys. now I use FC2, which like most things built around linux 2.6, is built to support only Unix98 ptys. I haven't rouched it since. |
| 16:46.38 | redder86 | coppice: would you be able to work on it yourself if you were paid? |
| 16:47.15 | coppice | ooh, the man is serious about faxing :-) |
| 16:47.37 | redder86 | coppice: how does Asterisk route a call to the pseudo modem? |
| 16:47.59 | redder86 | coppice: there are lots of people willing to pay to get a good Asterisk+HylaFAX solution |
| 16:48.00 | p0lar | Ok, I threw in a brief note about the topology as well |
| 16:48.06 | coppice | actually, I can't remember how complete/incomplete the code is. I haven't rouched it for 3 months. |
| 16:48.55 | coppice | I know the architecture is a bit of a botch, and I was more concerned about sorting out the AT emulation at the time. its a bit clumsy and inefficient |
| 16:49.02 | redder86 | coppice: I can work on any incompleteness. I just don't really understand how it was intended to be used with Asterisk. I've only been plugging on Asterisk for a number of months - with HylaFAX for years... and years. |
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| 16:49.44 | redder86 | coppice: will Asterisk load the so files? and then there are some new apps availble to Asterisk? |
| 16:49.54 | coppice | I don't understand how it shoudl work either :-) I asked a few questions about how people would like it to appear, and got rather vague answers |
| 16:49.55 | sipdrinker | hello, anyone know the way to echo some global variable for debuging on the console ? |
| 16:50.05 | pfn | NoOp |
| 16:50.21 | coppice | the problem with apps is they are not persistent. HylaFAX expects a persistent modem |
| 16:50.34 | coppice | it needs to be a channel, or something similar. |
| 16:50.49 | dan2 | anybody using their voicemail on broadvoice and having their zap phones give message waiting? |
| 16:51.05 | file | coppice: what about a channel driver? |
| 16:51.05 | redder86 | coppice: in extensions.conf there would be an entry: exten => fax,1,pseudomodem() ? what's the app name? |
| 16:51.50 | coppice | a channel driver than looks like a bunch of FAX modems, presenting pty interfaces to HylaFAX is something that is a persistent as * itself |
| 16:52.08 | sipdrinker | thx ! |
| 16:52.30 | coppice | there wouldn't be an app name with that scheme. it would be addressed just like a trunk group |
| 16:53.00 | redder86 | coppice: then with Dial(pseudomodem) ? |
| 16:53.08 | coppice | yep |
| 16:53.18 | file | channel drivers are nifty |
| 16:53.25 | coppice | so its just like physical modems on FXS ports with now |
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| 16:54.08 | redder86 | coppice: cool. So how do I get the spandsp library loaded, and how do I configure the spandsp FXS ports? |
| 16:54.22 | pfn | dan2 asterisk doesn't support receiving SIP NOTIFY |
| 16:54.35 | pfn | dan2 why are you using broadvoice's voicemail when you're using asterisk, silly.... |
| 16:54.56 | dan2 | pfn: because I want to be able to access my voicemail away from home easily |
| 16:54.59 | redder86 | coppice: and what's with that .xml error during build? |
| 16:55.08 | pfn | you can do that with voicemail running on asterisk |
| 16:55.14 | redder86 | looked like intended documentation |
| 16:55.18 | coppice | the code doesn't exists. this is how I think it would work best. I am busy right now. I'll try to take a look at this in a few days. |
| 16:55.33 | sipdrinker | anyone interested in the blackfin dsp ? |
| 16:55.57 | dan2 | pfn: I guess i'll do that then, this is pissing me off |
| 16:55.57 | coppice | the .xml error is because I missed a couple of files from the distribution. the Makefile.am is fixed now, so a make dist does the right job? |
| 16:56.07 | p0lar | Is anyone familiar with IAX -> H323 conversion? |
| 16:56.13 | coppice | sipdrinker: what is your interest in blackfin? |
| 16:56.25 | sipdrinker | there is a linux port |
| 16:56.35 | JerJer | p0lar: lots of screeming and yelling |
| 16:56.43 | dan2 | pfn: can I do multiple mailboxes with some voice dialog... like have it say for Dan press 1... |
| 16:56.48 | p0lar | or better yet... E1 -> Asterisk1 -> iax trunk via internet -> Asterisk2 -> H323 |
| 16:56.50 | coppice | sipdrinker: seems to be. have you tried it? |
| 16:56.52 | p0lar | yeah, I see that... lol |
| 16:56.57 | p0lar | I'm about to become one of them I think. |
| 16:57.13 | sipdrinker | a low cost board has just come out $160 |
| 16:57.20 | pfn | why don't you just go asterisk1 -> h323 |
| 16:57.33 | pfn | dan2 sure |
| 16:57.36 | JerJer | he wants to play middle |
| 16:57.39 | coppice | sipdrinker: does it have the resources to run Linux? |
| 16:57.40 | p0lar | Bandwidth reasons.. and H323 isn't very nat friendly/ = |
| 16:57.45 | sipdrinker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.11 | p0lar | Plus, I've already got a 5350 in place, but I'd rather use Asterisk instead |
| 16:58.14 | pfn | p0lar so iax2 conversion has nothing to do with this--you just want to know about h323 and asterisk |
| 16:58.16 | redder86 | coppice: make dist does not give any errors |
| 16:58.25 | coppice | sipdrinker: why do you find it interesting? |
| 16:58.26 | sipdrinker | see ADI website.. it's going be shark ! attack soon |
| 16:58.42 | dan2 | pfn: is that complex to do? |
| 16:58.44 | p0lar | pfn: I'm not an experienced asterisk [ab]user... so perhaps, perhaps not? |
| 16:58.47 | sipdrinker | blackfin dsp is low cost |
| 16:58.52 | coppice | redder86: it didn't give errors. It just didn't put the .xml and .dtd files in the .tgz file |
| 16:58.54 | pfn | dan2 easy, if you have to ask that, you haven't really used asterisk at all |
| 16:58.57 | p0lar | I can get the IAX trunk up.. |
| 16:59.04 | sipdrinker | embeded pbx ! low cost ! |
| 16:59.12 | p0lar | I can get the E1 recognized and channels loaded |
| 16:59.21 | coppice | sipdrinker: so far the blackfin seems to have been struggling. Intel can't seem to sell it |
| 16:59.39 | redder86 | coppice: oh |
| 16:59.45 | p0lar | but I need to be able to accept calls from the gatekeeper, which happens to be a Mera softswitch. /= |
| 16:59.52 | sipdrinker | ADI -> analog devices sells the blackfin.. and the 532 is only $4 ! |
| 16:59.55 | *** part/#asterisk indigo (~indigo@pcp08607273pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:00.08 | sipdrinker | 1 dsp can do linux and 20 channels of 729 ! |
| 17:00.11 | redder86 | coppice: you've posted a new version that does have them now? |
| 17:00.35 | p0lar | so.. Mera sends calls to the asterisk via H323, then it sends it off over the internet via IAX2 trunk to the remote location, which then sends them out via the E1. |
| 17:00.41 | coppice | redder86: I fixed several minor things people reported. nothing major |
| 17:00.56 | p0lar | my problem is in phase 1 and 2... from the mera to asterisk via H323 and then out over the IAX trunk. |
| 17:01.06 | coppice | sipdrinker: one Pentium can do linux and 40-50 channels of 729. so what? |
| 17:01.31 | coppice | sipdrinker: what is a 532? I'm not familiar with individual blackfin parts. |
| 17:01.33 | p0lar | I know this isn't REALLY complicated and it shouldn't be resource intensive.. |
| 17:01.44 | redder86 | coppice: thank you. If you have time and would like to get paid for completing the work just let me know. |
| 17:01.45 | sipdrinker | ha ha.. a single blackfin chip can do it all now low cost pbx box ! |
| 17:01.47 | dan2 | pfn: I take it asterisk as some text to speech or it will record your voice for voicemail somehow |
| 17:02.04 | pfn | dan2 you haven't used asterisk at all have you.... |
| 17:02.06 | coppice | sipdrinker: yeah right. of course it can :-) |
| 17:02.11 | pfn | what in the world are you using it to answer your broadvocie calls for.... |
| 17:02.19 | dan2 | pfn: no, i am on the point where I can make and receive calls |
| 17:02.22 | sipdrinker | the 531 dsp chip.. 400mhz |
| 17:02.27 | pfn | p0lar make sure you can terminate the h323 call first |
| 17:02.30 | dan2 | pfn: my phone is connected to Zap/1 |
| 17:02.33 | pfn | dan2 read the wiki |
| 17:02.38 | pfn | ~asterisk wiki |
| 17:02.40 | jbot | asterisk wiki is, like, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk |
| 17:02.46 | sipdrinker | anyway.. i hope to get the blackfin dsp board and try it |
| 17:02.49 | coppice | so what *exactly* is a 531? I know its a DSP chip |
| 17:03.02 | p0lar | ok, after I get it terminated, is there a direction you can point me in? :D |
| 17:03.17 | pfn | yeah, at the asterisk wiki :p |
| 17:03.18 | p0lar | I admit -- having mera in the mix is difficult, but it's not my option -- they have to have it for billing |
| 17:03.18 | sipdrinker | a $4 531 can surely make a $10 fxs box for a single phone |
| 17:03.21 | coppice | sipdrinker: are you a DSP engineer? |
| 17:03.23 | dan2 | pfn: will it send me emails if I have messages? |
| 17:03.29 | sipdrinker | h/w hacker |
| 17:03.32 | p0lar | ah... |
| 17:03.37 | pfn | dan2 read the asterisk wiki, all your questions are answered there |
| 17:03.37 | sipdrinker | i have a 4port fxs fxo box |
| 17:03.58 | sipdrinker | it goes thru a java server side sip stack to reach asterisk |
| 17:04.03 | coppice | sipdrinker: how can a 531 make a $10 fxs box? |
| 17:04.03 | p0lar | Can I buy asterisk support here if I can't get this up and running in a week? :D |
| 17:04.20 | pfn | p0lar you could.... |
| 17:05.01 | p0lar | I'll just have the sales droids put pressure on upper management to throw a little $$ to fix the problem -- I'm an IP routing person, not voice.. lol |
| 17:05.13 | p0lar | or not non-cisco voice (screams of horror) |
| 17:05.14 | sipdrinker | $4 for 531 + $5 for ethernet + $5 for silabs proslic== fxs box |
| 17:05.26 | file | p0lar: many people in here do consulting |
| 17:05.37 | sipdrinker | or without silabs..just headphone voip box |
| 17:06.02 | coppice | sipdrinker: ethernet is cheaper than that. you have non memory, no case, no PCB, no connectors, .... |
| 17:06.06 | drumkilla | i'm just a poor college student :) |
| 17:06.25 | p0lar | I'll hack on it some more this weekend, I should have a gsm channel bank up in a week or so for localized testing |
| 17:06.34 | sipdrinker | ya ya.. the cost of the 4port fxs/fxo box is $200.. |
| 17:06.52 | sipdrinker | i soldered the boards by hand :) |
| 17:06.52 | coppice | sipdrinker: A 1688 is a complete phone on a chip for < $4 |
| 17:07.08 | sipdrinker | 1688 from where ? |
| 17:07.17 | sipdrinker | sip phone on a chip from who ? |
| 17:07.35 | sipdrinker | phillips ? |
| 17:07.42 | sipdrinker | thats news to me |
| 17:07.53 | coppice | look it up. TI, Agere, ST, and others will sell you cheap VoIP phones on a chip. The 1688 is chinese |
| 17:08.21 | sipdrinker | ah.. yes.. but the licensing fee is not cheap |
| 17:09.03 | coppice | sipdrinker: so how do you avoid licencing? |
| 17:09.33 | sipdrinker | the blackfin ? has linux.. no fee for that |
| 17:09.56 | sipdrinker | asterisk can then compile on blackin linux |
| 17:10.26 | sipdrinker | is anyone selling a low cost < $50 phone box ? yet ? |
| 17:10.49 | sipdrinker | have u studied any asterisk channel driver ? |
| 17:11.22 | sipdrinker | i need to customize a channel driver for a 4port box.. |
| 17:11.26 | coppice | sipdrinker: so, you don't want any decent codecs. OK. The licence fees for the standard packages supplied with these phone chips are pretty low, anyway |
| 17:11.33 | dan2 | pfn: is the extension number in voicemail.conf supposed to be the same as the one I am using for incoming calls? |
| 17:11.47 | pfn | it can be whatever you want |
| 17:11.52 | sipdrinker | if so..then some low cost phone boxes should be on the horizon ? |
| 17:12.16 | sipdrinker | if 100 million people can buy a $20 phone box.. voip will rise up |
| 17:12.36 | coppice | linksys are selling 2 port FXS boxes, with their large markups, for under $50 retail |
| 17:12.37 | dan2 | pfn: all I want it to do is send to voicemail after 3 rings |
| 17:13.13 | sipdrinker | 729 is nice.. but about $5 a seat i think |
| 17:13.34 | sipdrinker | right now ? wow ! |
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| 17:14.19 | coppice | sipdrinker: when licencing for a VoIP chip, the whole package of silicon and software wouldn't be $5 :-) |
| 17:14.21 | file | sitting on my desk... with it's bright blue LEDs piercing in my eyes |
| 17:14.56 | sipdrinker | so then soon a $20box may be available. ?? within 1 or 2 years ? |
| 17:15.06 | glLoadIdentity | hi all .. can someone look at this debug page and tell me what is my prefered codec ? http://www.pastebin.com/106721 |
| 17:15.47 | file | the Linksys is actually a beautiful Sipura in disguise |
| 17:16.02 | sipdrinker | have you ever tried to use asterisk for a b2bua ? |
| 17:16.36 | sipdrinker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.47 | EricirE | glLoadIdentity: G723 |
| 17:16.47 | coppice | sipdrinker: well, your design looks like a $60-$70 retail unit. I expect many current units on sale have a BOM <$10 |
| 17:16.51 | redder86 | file: Linksys is rebranding the Sipuras? |
| 17:17.00 | sipdrinker | amazing ! |
| 17:17.19 | file | redder86: Sipura and Linksys got together, Linksys gets Sipura's stuff, and Linksys sells their own stuff based on the Sipura hardware |
| 17:17.29 | redder86 | file: I had to pay $150 for my SP-2000... I could have bought the same thing from Linksys for $50 ? |
| 17:17.39 | glLoadIdentity | EricirE, does that mean : if fwd has the codec g723 , then call will be in g723 ? |
| 17:17.42 | sipdrinker | so embedded pbx boxes will emerge soon too i guess |
| 17:17.56 | file | sipdrinker: already there |
| 17:18.00 | file | redder86: if you could find one, yes |
| 17:18.07 | coppice | sipdrinker: seen UMA? :-) |
| 17:18.10 | file | you need to be a VoIP provider now and be approved by Linksys... |
| 17:18.23 | sipdrinker | UMA ..a taiwan product ? |
| 17:18.26 | redder86 | file: oh... that's lame |
| 17:18.30 | file | redder86: yeah |
| 17:18.49 | file | I love it though |
| 17:19.02 | file | it's an SPA-2000 in a new Linksys case, and with Linksys branded web interface |
| 17:19.13 | file | even the phone system is different, all references to Sipura is gone |
| 17:19.30 | file | instead of "Sipura Configuration Menu" it's just "Configuration Menu" |
| 17:19.38 | redder86 | file: I've been happy with my SP-2000, except that callers tell us that they hear us faintly when we talk on phones connected to it |
| 17:19.41 | sipdrinker | who is UMA ? |
| 17:19.42 | EricirE | glLoadIdentity: it should |
| 17:19.52 | coppice | sipdrinker www.umatechnology.org |
| 17:20.00 | file | redder86: I switched phones and that problem for me went away, but you can also up the gain on input |
| 17:20.14 | redder86 | file: how do I up the gain on input? |
| 17:20.24 | file | it's in the web interface |
| 17:20.49 | sipdrinker | coppice: a low cost bluetooth voip phone ? |
| 17:20.55 | file | Admin Login -> Switch to Advanced View -> Regional -> at the bottom... FXS Port Input Gain |
| 17:21.08 | coppice | sipdrinker: eh? try again |
| 17:21.23 | redder86 | file: I see FXS Port Impedence, but not FXS Port Input Gain |
| 17:21.26 | sipdrinker | coppice: what voip product does UMA have ? |
| 17:21.36 | file | redder86: and you're in Advanced? what firmware? |
| 17:21.43 | coppice | sipdrinker: UMA is a spec |
| 17:21.50 | EricirE | pfn: in berlin ? |
| 17:21.58 | pfn | :p |
| 17:22.27 | sipdrinker | coppice: do you know if asterisk can work as B2BUA ? |
| 17:22.36 | redder86 | file: thanks, I found it in advanced (never looked there before). I'm using 2.0.10(e) |
| 17:22.40 | coppice | what is B2BUA? |
| 17:22.47 | file | redder86: there you go :) |
| 17:22.49 | dan2 | hmm, what am I supposed to add to extensions.conf so that after so many rings go to voicemail? |
| 17:22.55 | file | and those do have an effect :) so play around |
| 17:22.58 | sipdrinker | coppice: a b2bua will connect sip phones and then step out |
| 17:23.08 | redder86 | file: it's set at -3 ... is that dB ? |
| 17:23.18 | file | redder86: no clue |
| 17:23.19 | sipdrinker | coppice: no audio via asterisk |
| 17:23.22 | file | I just left mine alone :) |
| 17:23.32 | file | sipdrinker: asterisk supports reinvites, so the RTP streams can go direct |
| 17:23.39 | coppice | sipdrinker: isn't that what any sane sip gateway does? |
| 17:23.39 | pfn | according to the definition of B2BUA, it sounds like asterisk is one |
| 17:23.50 | sipdrinker | coppice: yes.. but it will not WORK for 2 nat sip phones |
| 17:24.04 | pfn | asterisk doesn't support any form of stun |
| 17:24.05 | sipdrinker | coppice: asterisk MUST bridge in this case |
| 17:24.14 | coppice | sipdrinker: yes, sip has that problem |
| 17:24.34 | sipdrinker | coppice: so i am considering a patch to chan _sip |
| 17:24.54 | coppice | sipdrinker: to make it support stun? |
| 17:25.16 | pfn | how does stun work, I wonder |
| 17:25.23 | pfn | haven't botered looking into it |
| 17:25.25 | sipdrinker | coppice: well to do b2bua directly |
| 17:25.27 | redder86 | coppice: I'm still getting that xml error on make with pre2 |
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| 17:26.03 | coppice | pfn: the nat box has to cooperate. the phones ask it to do things for them |
| 17:26.07 | redder86 | coppice: hrmm... but the files are there |
| 17:26.22 | pfn | the nat has to support stun in what way |
| 17:26.23 | sipdrinker | coppice: stun support may help.. as my b2bua works fine for clients using a local stun server |
| 17:26.24 | dan2 | hmm |
| 17:26.29 | dan2 | what are the arguments for Dial? |
| 17:26.32 | pfn | through implicit nat standards, or explicitly support stun requests |
| 17:26.38 | pfn | show application dial |
| 17:26.53 | redder86 | coppice: it's looking for them in spandsp/ not in . |
| 17:27.07 | coppice | sipdrinker: how can you do it without stun? its the only widely deployed scheme (and its not that widley deployed) |
| 17:27.11 | pfn | stun support is about the only way that natted reinvites can work |
| 17:27.26 | pfn | although I still don't see how..... |
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| 17:27.33 | sipdrinker | coppice: well i have a java B2BUA working nicely .. period |
| 17:27.44 | pfn | cuz one still can't determine the proper send/recv rtp port.... |
| 17:27.48 | twilson | does format_mp3 allow you to record voicemail in mp3 format? |
| 17:27.50 | sipdrinker | coppice: it simply WORKS ! GREAT ! |
| 17:27.59 | file | pfn: it works... |
| 17:28.02 | sipdrinker | coppice: so i just need to port this java solution to asterisk |
| 17:28.10 | coppice | sipdrinker: without stun or anything similar? |
| 17:28.15 | pfn | file I'm not interested in "it works" so much as how it works |
| 17:28.15 | file | the problem with NAT is that the internal IP address appears in the SIP headers, and phones/devices take that info |
| 17:28.23 | file | so what STUN does is put in the actual IP and allows it to work |
| 17:28.26 | sipdrinker | coppice: stun is running on the local server for the nat/sip clients |
| 17:28.32 | pfn | only changes the IP? |
| 17:28.36 | pfn | I don't think so.... |
| 17:28.37 | file | in asterisk setting nat=yes causes asterisk to use the perceived IP, so it works great |
| 17:28.44 | pfn | it has to munge with src/dst ports |
| 17:28.46 | redder86 | coppice: it works fine if I delete the spandsp/ from the xml and dtd file paths from their appearances in Makefile.in and Makefile.am |
| 17:28.48 | file | probably other things but that's what I know off the top of my head |
| 17:28.50 | pfn | perceived IP *AND* port |
| 17:28.52 | sipdrinker | coppice: yes i can spill all the details |
| 17:29.07 | sipdrinker | coppice: step 1 |
| 17:29.09 | file | back to Bohemian Rhapsody! |
| 17:29.22 | pfn | and having stun protocol-aware for SIP sounds pretty silly.... |
| 17:29.28 | coppice | sipdrinker: of course that can work. that is what stun is for. I think * lacks support because stun isn't widely enough deployed to be interesting |
| 17:29.49 | sipdrinker | coppice: thats niaeve |
| 17:29.52 | file | as a stun server or client? |
| 17:30.04 | pfn | I don't see how stun works as a 3rd party |
| 17:30.06 | sipdrinker | * wants to keep the h/w as the focues |
| 17:30.07 | p0lar | in the handbook-draft, I see zero mention about how to setup H.323 termination.. /= |
| 17:30.10 | pfn | because it doesn't know what src/dst ports are valid |
| 17:30.22 | pfn | p0lar the wiki |
| 17:30.23 | pfn | not the handbook |
| 17:30.34 | sipdrinker | coppice: step 1 is to reach each phone and grab the audio port/ip |
| 17:30.35 | p0lar | Figured I'd start with official documentation. |
| 17:30.44 | p0lar | not a bad read, but largely unapplicable to what I need. :D |
| 17:30.46 | coppice | sipdrinker: why is it naive? I don't know anyone with stun on their firewall |
| 17:30.51 | pfn | because you have hostA and hostB that need to have a NAT UDP session setup |
| 17:30.57 | pfn | STUN runs on hostC |
| 17:31.11 | pfn | oh well, I should read the stun spec to see how it works, cuz I don't see it.... |
| 17:31.22 | dan2 | bah! |
| 17:31.23 | sipdrinker | coppice: no.. digium wants to keep the focus on the h/w not a softswitch |
| 17:31.29 | pfn | oh, and STUN doesn't work on all forms of NAT |
| 17:31.37 | dan2 | all I want to do is make asterisk switch to voicemail after 3 rings, why is this so complex |
| 17:31.41 | pfn | focus on the h/w? |
| 17:31.45 | file | dan2: it's not. |
| 17:31.45 | pfn | dan2 show application dial |
| 17:31.49 | sipdrinker | coppice: the stun server is to help the clients call out |
| 17:31.49 | file | dan2: set a timeout in dial |
| 17:31.51 | pfn | it's the easiest thing ever |
| 17:31.54 | pfn | if you read *any* docs at all |
| 17:31.54 | coppice | pfn: stun is just a chat between the clients and the firewall so the client can find out what the heck its connections look like on the public side |
| 17:32.09 | sipdrinker | coppice: yes |
| 17:32.10 | pfn | coppice but how does it determine the src port to send? |
| 17:32.19 | dan2 | file: how do I set a timeout |
| 17:32.22 | sipdrinker | udp hole punching |
| 17:32.25 | coppice | sipdrinker: Oh, a tin foil hat "Digium hates us all" type, eh? |
| 17:32.26 | file | dan2: do what pfn said, it'll show you |
| 17:32.27 | dan2 | pfn: I can't find dial on the wiki |
| 17:32.31 | pfn | cuz if the internal client sends out on port 1234, but nat changes it to 4321 |
| 17:32.35 | file | show application dial -> do that in asterisk |
| 17:32.40 | sipdrinker | ha ha |
| 17:32.41 | pfn | but only for the session to clientB |
| 17:32.47 | RealLost1 | where does the stun server have to run? |
| 17:32.48 | pfn | but to stun, it reports 4322 |
| 17:32.50 | pfn | what happens then |
| 17:32.52 | sipdrinker | no |
| 17:32.58 | file | RealLost1: the interweb! |
| 17:33.06 | sipdrinker | anyone can make a channel driver |
| 17:33.17 | pfn | with NAT, you aren't guaranteed the same src port when reaching various hosts |
| 17:33.21 | pfn | or are you? |
| 17:33.23 | RealLost1 | file: on the firewall? |
| 17:33.29 | file | the interweb. |
| 17:33.34 | coppice | pfn: then the client knows what to tell the other client about the visible endpoint |
| 17:33.47 | file | internet... has to be outside... |
| 17:33.48 | sipdrinker | coppice: anyway.. asterisk can be fixed to be a true B2BUA |
| 17:34.01 | pfn | coppice how is that possible, though, the other client is behind nat, it is not able to receive rtp packets from the stun end |
| 17:34.11 | RealLost1 | file: if my asterisk server is hosted on the internet, should I run my stun server on it as well? |
| 17:34.11 | pfn | the stun-traversed |
| 17:34.27 | pfn | if you are able to receive rtp packets, yes, it's easy to determine srcport |
| 17:34.40 | pfn | that's why we need to port-forward rtp ports to asterisk with nat=yes |
| 17:34.51 | coppice | sipdrinker: maybe its chicken and egg. maybe if * supported stun people would be more enthusiastic about installing stun. then again, maybe not |
| 17:35.18 | pfn | stun must be somehow able to determine srcport |
| 17:35.18 | sipdrinker | coppice: ok lets fast forward |
| 17:35.45 | sipdrinker | coppice: have you seen any portal that supports MILLIONS of sip phones other than vonage |
| 17:35.57 | sipdrinker | coppice: answer no |
| 17:35.59 | coppice | even they don't |
| 17:36.32 | sipdrinker | coppice: can it be done ? answer yes.. and the killerapp is ? B2BUA ! |
| 17:36.55 | sipdrinker | coppice: which is why radvision sells the sip tool kit for > $100k !! (nda) |
| 17:37.03 | file | for god sake if you want it, then do it and submit it as a patch... |
| 17:37.04 | meebey | weee it works! I can call to my analog telephone with my zaurus |
| 17:37.04 | coppice | duh, well yes, we all know that. that is why everyone does it. |
| 17:37.11 | file | no use arguing and doing stuff like this |
| 17:37.17 | meebey | I love asterisk |
| 17:37.45 | sipdrinker | yes.. i will jump in the cold water soon ..and digest the chan_sip code bytes |
| 17:37.52 | dan2 | pfn: ok I set the time out to 15 seconds |
| 17:38.00 | dan2 | pfn: how come it doesn't switch to the next thing after that |
| 17:38.04 | dan2 | which would be Voicemail |
| 17:38.05 | twilson | anybody ever use format_mp3 in asterisk_addons? Can you write voicemail to mp3 with it? |
| 17:38.12 | pfn | you need to answer |
| 17:38.34 | file | now I'm paved in light... something just isn't right... I'm under your spell |
| 17:38.39 | file | how else could it be, anyone would be notice me |
| 17:38.47 | pfn | twilson decode only |
| 17:38.56 | coppice | sipdrinker: none of this is any good unless stun is widely deployed. vonage can't be relying on that, since it isn't widely deployed |
| 17:39.10 | Ehsan | what is register in oh323.conf |
| 17:39.16 | sipdrinker | coppice: xten uses stun |
| 17:39.34 | sipdrinker | coppice: the means to an end is the key |
| 17:39.35 | coppice | so? |
| 17:39.35 | pfn | coppice easy, vonage would run their own stun server |
| 17:39.43 | pfn | coppice and the devices they ship run stun |
| 17:39.46 | sipdrinker | coppice: so he who can switch 100million sip phones wins |
| 17:39.48 | pfn | support stun |
| 17:40.02 | coppice | pfn: stun has to be on your own local nat box |
| 17:40.19 | pfn | the client supports stun |
| 17:40.26 | pfn | it talks to a stun server at vonage |
| 17:40.28 | dan2 | pfn: it says no application Voicemail |
| 17:40.30 | pfn | what's so hard about that? |
| 17:40.35 | sipdrinker | coppice: the result is the point.. manage 100million sip phones one way or the other just do it |
| 17:40.41 | pfn | dan2 then you didn't get voicemail installed for whatever reason |
| 17:40.50 | coppice | pfn: stun has to run on *your* local nat box |
| 17:41.07 | file | coppice: are you sure... |
| 17:41.13 | sipdrinker | absolutely |
| 17:41.24 | pfn | coppice you mean on the router? |
| 17:41.24 | sipdrinker | and python is the tool for it |
| 17:41.27 | pfn | no..... |
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| 17:41.37 | file | I'm agreeing with pfn |
| 17:41.38 | sipdrinker | coppice: a google for sip |
| 17:41.43 | coppice | your local nat box is the only thing which knows what decisions it is making. who else could tell you about them? |
| 17:41.46 | pfn | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3489.html |
| 17:42.10 | pfn | coppice NAT behaves in pretty standard ways |
| 17:42.15 | pfn | you don't have to *tell* it to modify rules |
| 17:42.16 | sipdrinker | coppice: as sure as the sun rises..within a year a portal will switch 100million sip phones |
| 17:43.02 | sipdrinker | i saw vonage coming 20yrs ago |
| 17:43.13 | coppice | pfn: no. you don't tell it. it tells you, through the stun protocol, what it is up to |
| 17:43.38 | sipdrinker | greater than the march of an army is an idea whose time has come.. the global softswich engine |
| 17:43.40 | coppice | sipdrinker: you means when an ethernet card cost $5000? :-) |
| 17:43.55 | pfn | coppice I don't think so |
| 17:44.01 | pfn | only ~50 pages |
| 17:45.00 | pfn | coppice what you're talking about is midcom, not stun, it seems |
| 17:45.03 | sipdrinker | the advent of the $20 phone box will generate a tidal wave of internet sip usage |
| 17:45.22 | pfn | I dunno if that's desirable, heh |
| 17:45.29 | pfn | and the pap2 is $50.... |
| 17:45.30 | PatrickDK | I doubt it wll |
| 17:45.34 | pfn | less rebate |
| 17:45.38 | pfn | $10 |
| 17:45.57 | PatrickDK | someone has to come up with an easy to use interface that lets people make sip calls first |
| 17:46.08 | PatrickDK | e164 is not for normal people |
| 17:46.16 | PatrickDK | well, they don't understand how to use it |
| 17:46.26 | pfn | what's to understand |
| 17:46.30 | PatrickDK | dns |
| 17:46.36 | pfn | that can easily be abstracted |
| 17:46.42 | coppice | sipdrinker: why? broadband penetration in US and EU is low. In Asia broadband penetration is high, but IDD is cheaper than vonage |
| 17:46.44 | pfn | e.g. www.e164.org |
| 17:46.58 | pfn | coppice I wish it were high :p |
| 17:47.06 | pfn | in some other parts of asia.... |
| 17:47.08 | PatrickDK | I hate how e164.org has all the 1800 numbers linked out |
| 17:48.00 | sipdrinker | yes.. but soon sip to sip catch on india china us europ |
| 17:48.16 | LennyT | since the pap2-na is not avail ... anyone figure how to unlock the pap2? |
| 17:48.17 | coppice | I think its vonage that cannot survive. why would I pay per minute for a service that just acts as a directory? |
| 17:48.31 | sipdrinker | right |
| 17:48.40 | pfn | coppice that's only if you're saying they terminate calls via VoIP as opposed to PSTN |
| 17:48.46 | pfn | but vonage doesn't charge for vonage -> vonage calls |
| 17:48.52 | dan2 | pfn: ok receiving voicemail ok, how do I check my voicemail |
| 17:48.58 | pfn | nor for calls for which they have peering arrangements to other voip providers |
| 17:49.04 | pfn | dan2 setup an extension for voicemailman |
| 17:49.08 | pfn | and read the wiki!!! |
| 17:49.15 | coppice | why would I use SIP in china or india? in china the calls are already very cheap. in india the internet sucks |
| 17:49.47 | pfn | coppice stun does not sit on local nat box |
| 17:51.09 | sipdrinker | sip services will drive up the network |
| 17:51.15 | coppice | how can SIP can on in .us when broadband penetration is so low, and only slowly rising? |
| 17:51.49 | coppice | what does SIP give me that I don't have now with a land line? |
| 17:51.57 | *** join/#asterisk welby (~welby@solas.plus.com) |
| 17:52.05 | sipdrinker | perhaps like the internet spawned |
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| 17:52.18 | file | coppice: headaches with NAT |
| 17:52.19 | file | LOL |
| 17:52.40 | coppice | the internet offered new things. SIP is just voice calls that suck more than landlines, at higher cost |
| 17:53.43 | pfn | ah, so stun wouldn't work through linux nat |
| 17:53.50 | pfn | exactly the problem I described.... |
| 17:54.07 | sipdrinker | your right.. there are a few things now that people will go for such as the DID.. for low cost |
| 17:54.30 | sipdrinker | coppice: people will endure the bad quality for a low cost DID service..hoping it will get better |
| 17:55.04 | coppice | sipdrinker: is DID costly where you live? how is it charged to be like that? |
| 17:55.06 | sipdrinker | i hate to pay $40/mo to the local telco.. when $10/mo via sip will do |
| 17:55.39 | sipdrinker | here in B.C. DID is pricy.. $5/mo to buy them robbery |
| 17:56.02 | sipdrinker | in seattle about $1 .. and ipkall is free ! |
| 17:56.10 | coppice | then you need competition. SIP is not that relevant |
| 17:56.38 | coppice | in japan static IPs are <$3 a month. I like the idea of that :-) |
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| 17:56.47 | sipdrinker | well for global reach..if i can give you did world wide |
| 17:57.19 | sipdrinker | people will pay for cheap did for global access |
| 17:57.32 | dan2 | pfn: is there anyway to dial a digit when you hit the voicemail box and have it take me to my voicemail to listen |
| 17:57.33 | sipdrinker | coppice: so you use * for local pbx via ULAW |
| 17:57.53 | pfn | dan2 yes |
| 17:57.57 | pfn | read the wiki |
| 17:58.41 | benno2 | question: assume I want to convert some analog phones in a hotel using an analog PBX to IP using an adapter like the handytone 286. I think the phones are 10-15years old. what's the chance that they will work with the ATA ? what if they dont support DTMF ? Am I screwed ? |
| 17:58.41 | coppice | I have experience of trying to offer DID access in remote places at low cost. takeup was *very* low. seems like a neat idea, but businesses don't seem to go for it. |
| 17:58.44 | sipdrinker | coppice: so how do you employ *.. local loop ULAW ippbx ? or just conference and voice mail |
| 17:59.22 | dan2 | pfn: reading but not getting a defined answer |
| 17:59.38 | sipdrinker | well i am sure koreans will JUMP for a korean tel# in the home town if the price is right |
| 17:59.41 | pfn | look at macro-stdexten in the sample dialplan |
| 18:00.08 | sipdrinker | coppice: the KTA just announced some new rules for VOIP did biz |
| 18:00.12 | benno2 | or do those ATAs support old pulse based keys on the phones too ? |
| 18:00.57 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.58 | pfn | port restricted cone) - but not with fully symmetric NATs. |
| 18:00.58 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.58 | pfn | not work with netfilter based NAT. |
| 18:01.01 | pfn | ok, stun sucks |
| 18:01.02 | pfn | heh |
| 18:01.28 | sipdrinker | coppice: i have a 4port fxs/fxo box.. that works via SERVER and php scripts |
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| 18:02.03 | sipdrinker | coppice: can be used to encrypt /record to remote server via aes |
| 18:02.40 | sipdrinker | coppice: voip encryption may catch on for peer to peer use |
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| 18:04.03 | pfn | shoulda made it talk sip.... |
| 18:04.03 | pfn | :p |
| 18:04.06 | NeroLabs | anyone know why areski's graph displays the hours wrong? seems to be a problem for some people but no data on google about it yet |
| 18:04.22 | pfn | displays the hours wrong in what sense? |
| 18:04.28 | pfn | what is *wrong* |
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| 18:05.20 | rwjblue | I would like to use a function like iaxping, but it needs to run from a linux box. Anyone know where I can either get the source for the vb6 app or something like it in perl or pyton? |
| 18:05.47 | NeroLabs | pfn: here is the best description of the problem online (the same that I experience) http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-May/046218.html |
| 18:06.29 | pfn | sounds like timezone to me |
| 18:07.08 | NeroLabs | pfn: you would think so, but I've been all over the code, I don't see any obvious bug |
| 18:07.25 | pfn | keep looking then |
| 18:07.29 | pfn | sounds like it'd be very obvious |
| 18:07.35 | NeroLabs | you would think so |
| 18:11.58 | dan2 | hmm |
| 18:12.11 | dan2 | I still can't get digits from voicemail or something so I can change extensions to my voicemail |
| 18:12.56 | pfn | press * and use the a, extension to send you to voicemailmain |
| 18:13.04 | dan2 | pfn: a? |
| 18:13.07 | dan2 | pfn: how do I use a? |
| 18:15.14 | blankman | Hey all. What exactly is the point of chan_oss? Meaning how does one use it on a * server. Not how does one get it to load, but what is the purpose of it. In the wikki it simply says use the soundcard as a phone. |
| 18:16.07 | rwjblue | blankman: my understanding is that it functions like a softphone, but I haven't ever looked at it. |
| 18:16.29 | blankman | I don't use * servers for anything like that ... do I? Is this so that if your * server is not in a data center, but at a desk and you want to use the cli as phone? Or is this used to "bridge" different kinds of protocols? |
| 18:16.34 | dan2 | pfn: can I just call VoiceMailMain directly from the macro |
| 18:17.28 | blankman | rwjblue, do you unload it? in modules.conf? |
| 18:17.29 | rwjblue | blankman: my impression is that it is for using * on a desktop as a phone. |
| 18:17.43 | pfn | the sample dialplan has a usage of a |
| 18:17.51 | pfn | if you don't have it, update to a current version of asterisk |
| 18:17.58 | rwjblue | Personally, I don't even use it. |
| 18:18.11 | rwjblue | I think that I have it set to noload in modules.conf |
| 18:18.17 | pfn | chan_oss/alsa are used primarily for testing or for intercom uses |
| 18:18.26 | dan2 | pfn: the extension.conf dial plan? |
| 18:18.26 | pfn | to try to use it as a softphone is stupid |
| 18:18.40 | pfn | that's the only file that defines the dialplan |
| 18:18.49 | rwjblue | pfn, thank you for the clarification. I wasn't sure. |
| 18:19.12 | pfn | if you have no other phone to test connections with, you could use the console drivers |
| 18:20.12 | blankman | pfn, not sure I understand the statement about "using the console drivers" ... |
| 18:20.27 | dan2 | pfn: where is the sample dialplan? |
| 18:20.47 | rwjblue | dan2: /usr/src/asterisk/configs/extensions.conf.sample |
| 18:20.58 | rwjblue | assuming that the source is in /usr/src/asterisk |
| 18:21.12 | blankman | Does that mean that if I started the * with: asterisk -vvvc I could then use the cli as the phone? Have a headset plugged into the server and all would be well? |
| 18:21.37 | blankman | simply issue dial(iax2/someone:someonepass@somephone) from the cli? |
| 18:23.50 | pfn | no, only extensions |
| 18:23.52 | Syncros | dial ext@context |
| 18:23.52 | pfn | dial 1234 |
| 18:25.10 | blankman | ummm... so only extension that are local to this asterisk. Okay, does it get used for anything else? How did the intercom come into it? |
| 18:26.00 | rwjblue | blankman: some paging systems take a 3.5mm input. Same as headphones so you could output sound from the card on the pc into the paging system. |
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| 18:27.19 | blankman | I see ... have * bridge an incomming or outgoing call to the oss chan which is "tied" to the paging system. It isn't that the * is the paging system. |
| 18:28.07 | blankman | Though on thinking about it, it would be that hard would it. Just have an amp and run all the wires to it :-) |
| 18:28.48 | rwjblue | Basically, yes. |
| 18:28.54 | blankman | Okay. thanks. the reason I am asking is cause I am trying to make asterisk not run as root, and I wasn't sure if I had to have that module or not :-) |
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| 18:36.55 | blankman | Okay, nother ? for you smart guys ... since I am not using sip on the * box, how do I keep it from allocating the rtp ports? I have noload sip in modules ... but it is still setting up the rtp ports. |
| 18:38.28 | blankman | Just so we are clear, and people don't think I am trying to make "suck" from the group lots of data. I need this for the n+1 doc I am writing. I am just trying to make sure that most of the info. needed to setup the reg.srv's right :-) |
| 18:38.32 | meebey | hn |
| 18:38.43 | meebey | for some reason incoming calls dont goto my IAX2 client |
| 18:38.51 | meebey | since I let 2 clients ring, the SIP one works |
| 18:38.56 | meebey | outgoing IAX2 calls work |
| 18:39.17 | Aharonov | is there some way to debug the extensions file? I mean I want to see why one sip phone just doesn't work. |
| 18:39.41 | meebey | when I check the network traffic, there is no traffic to the IAX2 client |
| 18:39.49 | blankman | Aharonov, sip debug |
| 18:40.04 | blankman | meebey, what is you dailplan? |
| 18:40.10 | blankman | meebey, for the iax clietn |
| 18:40.17 | Aharonov | no, that shows me the debugging of the sip protocol. I don't care about that. I want to know what is going on with the dialplan. |
| 18:40.37 | blankman | Aharonov, add noops |
| 18:40.59 | Aharonov | are you saying "sip debug noops" or what exactly? |
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| 18:41.06 | Aharonov | you mean, add no-ops to the dialplan? |
| 18:41.14 | blankman | to you dialplan. The system will put them out on the console. asterisk -vvvr |
| 18:41.29 | Aharonov | ah, okay. I didn't see that in the docs. |
| 18:41.32 | blankman | No, I mean NoOp :-) |
| 18:41.51 | blankman | It is just like any other app, but it does nothing ;-) |
| 18:42.08 | meebey | blankman: nevermind, I just tried it again, and it works :) |
| 18:42.11 | Aharonov | so, exten => s, NoOp("my foo") |
| 18:42.13 | meebey | but now I get in the asterisk log: |
| 18:42.14 | meebey | Oct 2 20:41:13 NOTICE[360467]: Dropping incompatible voice frame on IAX2/meebey/3 of format GSM since our native format has changed to SPEEX |
| 18:42.35 | meebey | on the client I cant set the codec |
| 18:42.46 | blankman | ummm ... I use it like this: exten => s,1,NoOp |
| 18:43.03 | blankman | or exten => s,101,NoOp |
| 18:44.14 | meebey | does that mean my client said its SPEEX but it sent GSM? |
| 18:44.22 | meebey | so I should force GSM then |
| 18:44.36 | blankman | Since the dialplan is a lot like old basic, I generally add a few "noop" at the start of every dialplan. I also tend to make the dialplan (goto) a higher number so that I can have "space" if I need to in the future ;-) This is for debugging only. On prod. machines, I get rid of all the fat. |
| 18:45.34 | blankman | later all, gotta go. |
| 18:45.40 | Aharonov | aha. |
| 18:46.03 | Aharonov | I'm debugging the wrong sip server. no wonder no changes had any effect. this phone needed to be reprogrammed. |
| 18:46.19 | meebey | works now :) |
| 18:46.22 | meebey | forced GSM |
| 18:46.39 | meebey | call to and from zaurus over asterisk works like a charm |
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| 18:56.51 | SpUr | hola |
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| 19:03.49 | p0lar | it's no wonder people shy away from Asterisk + H323.. damn! |
| 19:04.25 | PatrickDK | you still don't have context=* do you? |
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| 19:13.19 | sipdrinker | cmd SendText will work for SIP clients ? |
| 19:13.50 | sipdrinker | i guess this is an INFO message in SIP ? |
| 19:14.07 | sipdrinker | trial and error i guess |
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| 19:21.21 | sudoer | how do i list all the users in here? |
| 19:21.29 | sipdrinker | anyone know of any free asterisk server online ? |
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| 19:21.42 | sudoer | fwd |
| 19:22.14 | sipdrinker | very restricted |
| 19:22.33 | sipdrinker | how about free conference server ? |
| 19:24.25 | harryvetch | sipdrinker for what reason to test your setup? |
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| 19:25.31 | dan2 | hmm, I have been looking for an online free conference center |
| 19:26.34 | benno2 | q: how long can the cable between the handytone adapter and the phone be ? |
| 19:27.02 | *** join/#asterisk rene- (~rene-@201.135.255.155) |
| 19:27.08 | benno2 | can it be for example 100ft (30m) ? |
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| 19:27.18 | rene- | hey |
| 19:27.25 | benno2 | or is there a problem with the ringer (voltage loss etc) |
| 19:27.28 | harryvetch | What kind of cable |
| 19:27.38 | harryvetch | cat 2 ? |
| 19:27.45 | achillez | hi ppl, does windows have support for TDM400? |
| 19:27.51 | harryvetch | cat 5 is 100 meters |
| 19:27.55 | rene- | Guys what is the going rate for remote (phone/ssh) * consultancy? |
| 19:27.59 | redder86 | if I want to use ilbc codec should I have the ilbc library files installed before building Asterisk? |
| 19:28.23 | pfn | achillez no, why would you even ask such a silly thing |
| 19:28.25 | pfn | what would you run it with |
| 19:28.51 | Aharonov | rene-, rates depend upon the people and the relationship that you wish to have, not the skills. |
| 19:29.23 | pfn | redder86 no, ilbc is included with asterisk |
| 19:29.55 | achillez | pfn: well Asterisk runns on windows |
| 19:30.08 | pfn | no, it doesn't |
| 19:30.10 | benno2 | harryvetch: normal phone cable basically I would like to keep the analogue phone in a room while having the handytone ATA in another room since I cannot lay down cat5 cable. I have to reuse the existing infrastructure |
| 19:30.14 | pfn | it runs on linux on windows |
| 19:30.38 | welby | in co-op linux |
| 19:30.46 | welby | which is much like UML |
| 19:30.48 | welby | but for windows |
| 19:31.01 | Aharonov | why would you bother doing that? |
| 19:31.02 | welby | so can;t access pysical devices (afaik anyway) |
| 19:32.02 | achillez | so AstWind is still linux on win? |
| 19:32.03 | benno2 | Q. What is the maximum distance from which I can drive an analog device with a Cisco ATA? |
| 19:32.11 | benno2 | http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/gatecont/ps514/products_administration_guide_chapter09186a00801a8b34.html |
| 19:32.18 | benno2 | cool 61m and up |
| 19:32.21 | p0lar | patrick: no, I'm working on getting the H.323 connectivity issue solved before I work on the IAX |
| 19:32.24 | redder86 | pfn: thanks. |
| 19:32.31 | sudoer | does anyone use voipamerica? |
| 19:32.36 | sudoer | here i mean |
| 19:32.36 | benno2 | 200ft ... so I hope the grandstream can go a few dozen m too |
| 19:32.53 | redder86 | pfn: with Asterisk <- IAX2 -> Asterisk communication use iLBC by default? |
| 19:33.11 | redder86 | pfn: s/with/will/ |
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| 19:33.41 | benno2 | Ring Load (per RJ-11 FXS Port) |
| 19:33.47 | sudoer | what is the common protocol that these big carriers such as voipamerica use to connect to, i guess its not iax2 |
| 19:34.15 | benno2 | any idea what 5 REN, 1 REN means ? is that the number of phones attached to an RJ11 plug ? or is it a characteristic of the ringer (impedance etc) ? |
| 19:37.51 | harryvetch | benno2, I dont know what the maximum leagth of phone line cable is but cat5 can be also used and its reach is 100 meters. You can though hook a hub/repeater to it and extend it. I cannot recall what the formula is for this. I think its maximum of three concurrent connections in length in a 4-2-1 hub setup. If anyone care to say otherside that would be great. |
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| 19:40.00 | dome_c | hi thailand here |
| 19:40.49 | dome_c | Want to buy IAX2 A-Z , |
| 19:40.54 | harryvetch | Tia interesting. |
| 19:40.56 | dome_c | and pay by paypal.. |
| 19:40.58 | harryvetch | Thi |
| 19:40.59 | harryvetch | :) |
| 19:41.01 | angler | i wanna go to thailand |
| 19:41.08 | dome_c | welcome... :) |
| 19:41.38 | dome_c | I'm headche with SIP A-Z |
| 19:41.52 | calyx | So is asterisk as easy as install and start making VoIP calls? |
| 19:41.58 | dome_c | Who can provide IAX2 A-Z please let's me know.. |
| 19:42.05 | calyx | Do I need some sort of subscription to use it? |
| 19:42.41 | dome_c | calyx if you have some exp in voip. you can setup asterisk in 10 min and test call |
| 19:42.43 | dome_c | :) |
| 19:42.58 | calyx | What if I don't know anything about VoIP yet? |
| 19:43.01 | calyx | Any good place to get started? |
| 19:43.16 | dome_c | www.voip-info.org |
| 19:43.21 | calyx | Boo ya. |
| 19:43.22 | calyx | Thanks. |
| 19:43.26 | dome_c | good for asterisk. |
| 19:43.33 | calyx | More dumb questions to follow. |
| 19:43.37 | calyx | Appreciate it. |
| 19:43.39 | dome_c | I learn from there |
| 19:44.02 | dome_c | and now i'm small callingcard , ip phone, softphone carrier :) |
| 19:44.24 | harryvetch | dome great |
| 19:44.29 | harryvetch | making a profit? |
| 19:44.30 | calyx | Wow. |
| 19:44.47 | dome_c | yes.. |
| 19:44.57 | calyx | Would I need anything other than an internet connection to get VoIP working? |
| 19:45.11 | dome_c | Now i have 10 call shop use my solution. :) |
| 19:45.13 | harryvetch | cal, read asterisk.org |
| 19:45.16 | Aharonov | probably that's about it. |
| 19:45.36 | Aharonov | a hard phone can be a lot easier to setup, but less flexible overall. |
| 19:48.00 | Ehsan | dome_c : using calling card with asterisk ? |
| 19:48.01 | freestyle_networ | anyone here good with * and faxes? |
| 19:48.24 | pfn | wtf? all broadvoice secrets are the same by default??? |
| 19:48.32 | dome_c | yep. |
| 19:48.34 | redder86 | freestyle_networ: I'm good with faxes, okay with Asterisk |
| 19:48.51 | dome_c | I use prepaid module. |
| 19:48.56 | freestyle_networ | ive been able to work with spandsp and rxfax() quite easily |
| 19:49.07 | freestyle_networ | but i dont know much abou txfax() |
| 19:49.10 | dome_c | for check cardid and forward acall |
| 19:49.11 | Ehsan | dome_c : u use h323 or only sip /iax ? |
| 19:49.23 | redder86 | freestyle: I don't use txfax or rxfax, sorry |
| 19:49.33 | dome_c | Now i use oh323 because all my A-Z support only h323 |
| 19:49.44 | redder86 | freestyle: I'm a HylaFAX junkie |
| 19:49.49 | dome_c | some guy here tell me not good it' not stable. |
| 19:49.55 | freestyle_networ | redder86: trying to figure out how to send faxes across IAX2/SIP channels |
| 19:50.03 | dome_c | So now i'm looking for IAX A-Z carrier. |
| 19:50.35 | redder86 | freestyle: I've done it over SIP many times, but I've never tried IAX... should be just the same |
| 19:50.48 | redder86 | freestyle: just make sure you use ulaw/alaw |
| 19:51.10 | Ehsan | dome_c : yes I heard the same.. |
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| 19:51.39 | dome_c | Use IAX2 is better i think.. |
| 19:51.47 | freestyle_networ | tried that but, the but it has something to do with the baud send rate, apparently it cant be more then 7000 and mine is locked in 33.6K ...so i was hoping of using the t38modem solution with Hylafax and spandsp |
| 19:52.02 | clive-- | can anyone help point me in the direction of ATA186 firmwares? |
| 19:52.05 | Ehsan | dome_c : yes but finding good rates is tough with IAX |
| 19:52.11 | harryvetch | is aix more efficient with voi-ip calls then other unix/linux variants? |
| 19:52.19 | Ehsan | dome_c : do u use astcc ? |
| 19:52.28 | redder86 | freestyle: t38modem+HylaFAX+Asterisk would be a lovely combination, but Asterisk won't jive with t38modem currently. |
| 19:52.31 | freestyle_networ | its too bad IAX2 is not a standard, but one day |
| 19:52.53 | dome_c | I like IAX2 because it's not standard :) |
| 19:53.17 | harryvetch | That is a ibm product and does it require a licence? |
| 19:53.49 | freestyle_networ | reder86: well i guess i dont need t38modem to jive with asterisk, only hylafax...and then just use System() commands to use hylafax commands |
| 19:54.30 | redder86 | freestyle: okay, sure. What's t38modem going to talk to? |
| 19:54.59 | freestyle_networ | redder86, i will need one on each end |
| 19:55.18 | redder86 | freestyle: yes, or something like that |
| 19:55.38 | freestyle_networ | redder86: do you know of any decent wikis or links on hylafax+asterisk+t38modem? |
| 19:55.44 | redder86 | freestyle: but why involve Asterisk there at all? |
| 19:56.05 | redder86 | freestyle: no, I don't know of any... I strongly doubt that there are any |
| 19:56.16 | freestyle_networ | redder86: becauase it has to work with my dialplan setup...dial 8 first for fax |
| 19:56.29 | redder86 | freestyle: the t38modem author worked with Cisco VoIP equipment |
| 19:57.42 | freestyle_networ | rdder86: thanx |
| 19:58.05 | redder86 | freestyle: np, but I didn't help you any |
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| 20:04.35 | redder86 | a clean 1.0.1 installation gives: [chan_modem_bestdata.so]/usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_modem_bestdata.so: undefined symbol: ast_unregister_modem_driver |
| 20:05.38 | file | needs chan |
| 20:05.41 | file | chan_modem.so |
| 20:05.51 | file | but if you don't use any of the chan_modem stuff it's not fatal |
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| 20:06.04 | redder86 | file: yeah, chan_modem needs to be discarded |
| 20:06.08 | redder86 | altogether |
| 20:06.21 | file | why? it's common stuff between all the chan_modem drivers |
| 20:06.31 | file | bestdata, aopen, and isdn4linux |
| 20:07.14 | redder86 | file: I don't use the chan_modem stuff |
| 20:07.24 | redder86 | file: I tried once... it seemed worthless |
| 20:07.24 | file | then ignore it :) |
| 20:07.36 | file | tried with what hardware? |
| 20:07.37 | redder86 | file: but asterisk exits on that error |
| 20:07.47 | redder86 | file: on MultiTech modems |
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| 20:07.50 | file | did you modify modules.conf? |
| 20:07.55 | redder86 | file: nope |
| 20:08.03 | file | chan_modem is not just for every modem out there |
| 20:08.18 | file | it's for modems with aopen and bestdata chipsets, plus the isdn4linux stuff |
| 20:08.33 | file | redder86: well if you really don't want the chan_modem stuff put noload lines in modules.conf |
| 20:08.38 | redder86 | file: there is no aopen or bestdata chipset... they both used Rockwell chipsets |
| 20:08.47 | redder86 | file: got it working thanks |
| 20:09.42 | file | aopen didn't just use rockwell, used a few others too... that are supported |
| 20:09.46 | redder86 | file: actually, some of the newer ones use Conexant chipsets, but Conexant is just the new incarnation of Rockwell |
| 20:10.07 | file | nobody uses that stuff anymore anyway |
| 20:10.22 | redder86 | file: which is why it needs to be stripped out |
| 20:10.43 | file | it doesn't _need_ to be, it's there in case people do need it |
| 20:10.50 | file | lots of things can be stripped out, applications included |
| 20:11.03 | file | deprecated things... |
| 20:11.07 | redder86 | file: the frustrating thing is that the voice stuff is standardized now, but chan_modem doesn't support the standard... it supports the proprietary versions that were developed pre-standard |
| 20:11.22 | file | patches welcome. |
| 20:11.30 | redder86 | file: nobody uses it anyway |
| 20:12.04 | redder86 | not worth the effort to develop a patch (and I did start) when nobody uses it... when an AMI-IA92 is $15 |
| 20:14.49 | redder86 | hrmmm... is mpg123 not part of FC2 ? |
| 20:17.11 | *** join/#asterisk calyx (~mattslee@cpe-069-133-097-208.woh.rr.com) |
| 20:17.22 | calyx | So what do I have to do to make this thing dial out? |
| 20:17.43 | redder86 | Dial() |
| 20:17.56 | calyx | Will it work behind a router? |
| 20:18.05 | redder86 | redder86: yes |
| 20:18.33 | redder86 | calyx: asterisk will work behind firewalls, yes |
| 20:19.37 | redder86 | calyx: although you'll probably want to use IAX2 for any cross-firewall traffic |
| 20:20.03 | redder86 | calyx: let's do it here, please |
| 20:20.08 | calyx | Sorry. |
| 20:20.29 | redder86 | it lets others pitch in |
| 20:20.57 | calyx | No such extension in context local? |
| 20:21.04 | calyx | That is the error I get. |
| 20:22.13 | file | it means the extension dialed was not found in the context local in extensions.conf |
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| 20:23.26 | calyx | I was not trying to dial an extension. |
| 20:23.36 | calyx | I was trying to dial to the outside world. |
| 20:23.40 | calyx | Do I have the wrong software? |
| 20:24.02 | file | that's an extension, an extension that dials an IAX2 or SIP provider... or Digium hardware to place the call |
| 20:24.48 | calyx | Ok. |
| 20:24.49 | calyx | Thanks. |
| 20:24.53 | calyx | More reading to do... |
| 20:24.57 | file | indeed |
| 20:25.01 | calyx | At least my install was successful. |
| 20:25.05 | calyx | Whoot whoot. |
| 20:25.09 | calyx | Later on. |
| 20:25.11 | meebey | Oct 2 21:47:15 WARNING[16384]: Unable to open pseudo channel for timing... Sound may be choppy. |
| 20:25.15 | meebey | how can I satisfy that? |
| 20:25.25 | file | meebey: that's a warning, not an error - your music on hold will still most likely be fine |
| 20:25.41 | file | previously a timing device (Digium hardware, ztdummy, or zaprtc) was required to use Music on Hold |
| 20:25.41 | meebey | but what is it trying? rtc? |
| 20:25.48 | meebey | oh ic |
| 20:25.48 | file | but that is not the case anymore. |
| 20:26.02 | meebey | I got an isdn card so :) |
| 20:26.09 | meebey | used via cha_capi |
| 20:26.20 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c: In function `launch_netscript': |
| 20:26.20 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c:123: warning: implicit declaration of function `socket' |
| 20:26.20 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c:123: error: `AF_INET' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 20:26.20 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c:123: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 20:26.20 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c:123: error: for each function it appears in.) |
| 20:26.21 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c:123: error: `SOCK_STREAM' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 20:26.23 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c:143: warning: implicit declaration of function `connect' |
| 20:26.25 | Darwin35 | res_agi.c:143: warning: type-punning to incomplete type might break strict-aliasing rules |
| 20:26.43 | file | Darwin35: bad you bad, pastebin! |
| 20:26.52 | meebey | shame on you Darwin35 :) |
| 20:27.10 | meebey | 2 lines of that btw what have be enough :-P |
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| 20:28.41 | file | Darwin35: it's you and your silly FreeBSD |
| 20:30.04 | Darwin35 | thnks |
| 20:30.20 | file | see, the ability to run AGIs over a TCP/IP socket or something was added |
| 20:30.29 | file | so FreeBSD probably requires an extra header |
| 20:31.15 | *** part/#asterisk dome_c (~dome@203.146.102.55) |
| 20:31.39 | Darwin35 | well I emailed the bsd group |
| 20:31.46 | Darwin35 | maybe we can fix it |
| 20:33.28 | gwynpen | Hi! I'm trying to build zaphfc on FC2, kernel 2.6.8. I'm getting a couple of warnings regarding undefined zt_* functions (e.g. zt_register). Any ideas? |
| 20:38.23 | *** join/#asterisk showtime (~show@c-67-161-110-59.client.comcast.net) |
| 20:38.34 | *** join/#asterisk Stealth_Man (stvpn@ool-18bc2736.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:38.40 | showtime | anyone interested in some SPA-2000 units (3)? |
| 20:40.33 | file | depends on the price. |
| 20:41.02 | showtime | hmmmm! $60per |
| 20:41.15 | file | nice. |
| 20:41.25 | Stealth_Man | arethey used ? |
| 20:41.36 | file | working? unmelted? |
| 20:41.55 | showtime | working, unmelted, configured and used for a week |
| 20:42.04 | Stealth_Man | showtime, where are you located ? |
| 20:42.08 | showtime | bought them from atacomm 3 months ago, customer decided to go with a PRI instead of connecting |
| 20:42.11 | showtime | seattle... |
| 20:42.36 | file | neat |
| 20:43.11 | file | probably have no trouble finding a buyer though showtime |
| 20:43.25 | Stealth_Man | my pap2-na order ws cancelled :( |
| 20:43.35 | Stealth_Man | file, how did you get it ? |
| 20:43.38 | showtime | yeah, I like them, but whatcha gonna do you only need so many analog ports :) |
| 20:43.43 | file | I ordered it before Linksys recalled 'em |
| 20:43.51 | Stealth_Man | lucky one :) |
| 20:44.53 | file | it's very beautiful... so stylish and blue |
| 20:45.19 | showtime | any quality improvement above the spa's? |
| 20:45.31 | file | the internal hardware is the same. |
| 20:45.54 | showtime | same OEM? |
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| 20:46.34 | Stealth_Man | file, did you tried fax ? |
| 20:46.51 | file | nope I don't do faxing. |
| 20:47.00 | file | but I don't see why it wouldn't work using ULAW |
| 20:52.11 | harryvetch | whats the url that points to the voip.org site? |
| 20:52.37 | Stealth_Man | www.voip-info.org |
| 20:54.11 | harryvetch | k |
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| 21:01.44 | fpl | hi guys |
| 21:01.47 | fpl | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.03 | gambolputty | with???????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 21:02.14 | fpl | i am getting a message that says : link /usr/src/linux-2.6 to your kernel sources first ! |
| 21:02.21 | fpl | i have no clue how to do this |
| 21:02.23 | zamsler | LOL |
| 21:02.24 | fpl | any thoughts |
| 21:02.25 | zamsler | easy |
| 21:02.30 | fpl | yeaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 21:02.33 | fpl | but how |
| 21:02.38 | fpl | i am no linux xpert |
| 21:02.41 | Stealth_Man | fpl: which version of Linux do ypu run ? |
| 21:02.46 | Stealth_Man | Fedora Core 2 ? |
| 21:02.48 | fpl | fedora 2 |
| 21:02.49 | fpl | yep |
| 21:02.51 | Stealth_Man | ohh man :) |
| 21:03.04 | fpl | build is 2.8.5.1 something else |
| 21:03.06 | zamsler | ln -s /usr/src/<your kernel build> /usr/src/linux-2.6 |
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| 21:03.30 | fpl | zamsler ? how do i know the kernel build ? |
| 21:03.36 | Cybo | fpl: ls /usr/src |
| 21:03.38 | Stealth_Man | fpl hold on a sec |
| 21:03.40 | zamsler | it is where you compiled it |
| 21:03.48 | fpl | waaaaaaaaap |
| 21:03.55 | Cybo | Check what you have in there already. |
| 21:03.56 | mishehu | so if I buy a Linksys PAP2, all I have to do is not plug it into the network, and dial ****, then 73738# to reset it so it doesn't try to connect to vonage? |
| 21:04.00 | Stealth_Man | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Linux%20Fedora |
| 21:04.01 | zamsler | do u not know how to compile a kernel? |
| 21:04.05 | Stealth_Man | fpl: read this http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Linux%20Fedora |
| 21:07.08 | Ehsan | anyone using astcc here ? |
| 21:07.54 | Ehsan | how many oh323 can * suppport ? |
| 21:08.02 | Ehsan | someone told me not more than 13... |
| 21:08.28 | BuzzBud | anyone know exactly what asterisk passes to mailcmd when it's trying to send voicemail attachments? |
| 21:08.59 | Stealth_Man | mishehu: are you serious ?? |
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| 21:12.07 | Umaro | Hey guys, any suggestions on converting my mp3s so they sound better for music on hold? |
| 21:14.28 | fpl | anyone running asterisk on MEPIS linux ? |
| 21:14.49 | harryvetch | I am interested in trying out asterisk and need a recomend to keep the price to build two servers as demo units for bussinesses. What cpu/memory ect is recomended to run sample calls across it? |
| 21:15.56 | _RaYmAn_ | it all depends on how many simultaneous calls you want to run and whether the servers just tell clients to contact eachother directly or stay as middleman |
| 21:16.06 | SpUr | ehsan: about 35 |
| 21:17.12 | SpUr | exit |
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| 21:19.17 | zamsler | LOL |
| 21:19.28 | zamsler | is anyone having problems with broadvoice? |
| 21:19.30 | harryvetch | Ray, is there a formula set aside for this? |
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| 21:19.46 | showtime | we need a used voip equipment trader board |
| 21:19.50 | showtime | ebay is too general |
| 21:24.58 | Umaro | showtime, interesting idea |
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| 21:26.40 | chris_jones | Does anyone have any suggestions on setting up a modem on an FXO port? |
| 21:27.01 | chris_jones | I can get the modem to dial out but its difficult to get a connection |
| 21:27.14 | Aharonov | you are trying to run a modem through the PBX? |
| 21:27.45 | Aharonov | I'm not really surprised if you have difficulties. |
| 21:28.01 | chris_jones | Sorry, the modem is on a TDM00P FSX and I want it to dial out on an FXO on the same card. |
| 21:28.41 | Aharonov | the challenge is if the digitization involved is sufficiently accurate to actually reproduce the tones properly. |
| 21:29.18 | Aharonov | modern modem technology is highly adapted to the limits/features of the DMS-100/5ESS. |
| 21:29.41 | Aharonov | 56k and 64k 8-bit samples.... |
| 21:30.16 | Aharonov | you'd have to make sure that there was nothign like GSM codec in between. there would have to be a raw rate. Does * really do that between ports? |
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| 21:30.23 | chris_jones | Well the I had this setup for testing and I know that I cant use a GSM codec so I made |
| 21:30.35 | chris_jones | that port use ulaw |
| 21:31.04 | chris_jones | and that still didnt work. The modem would try to connect @ 56k then you would hear it drop down to 2400. |
| 21:31.13 | Aharonov | that's about what I would expect. |
| 21:31.19 | Aharonov | why do you need to do this? |
| 21:31.36 | chris_jones | I just was wondering if something like the jitter buffer needs changed or the tx/rx gain |
| 21:32.03 | Aharonov | those sound like reasonable things. |
| 21:32.10 | chris_jones | Because we have a phone line that only gets used once a couple of times a day |
| 21:32.14 | Aharonov | is there doucmented situations of people making this work? |
| 21:32.21 | chris_jones | and i would hate to waste an inbound line |
| 21:32.42 | chris_jones | Im searching on google with no luck really |
| 21:33.06 | Aharonov | this is what I did... I wired the modem's "phone" jack, to the FXO port. |
| 21:33.08 | chris_jones | I also want to put our fax on an FXS, that works some what but not 100% |
| 21:33.25 | Aharonov | I also wired the fax on that same line, before the FXO. |
| 21:33.33 | Aharonov | the fax machine answers on distinctive ring. |
| 21:33.50 | Aharonov | the modem answers after 5 rings (if the fax hasn't picked up), and otherwise, it is an outgoing line. |
| 21:34.22 | chris_jones | you didn't wire to the modems "line" jack? |
| 21:34.31 | chris_jones | to the fxo |
| 21:34.35 | Aharonov | no. |
| 21:34.41 | chris_jones | whys that? |
| 21:34.58 | Aharonov | I didn't run modem through the pbx. I put it in front of the pbx. |
| 21:35.11 | chris_jones | oh, ic now. |
| 21:37.19 | chris_jones | I dont think this solution will help me because while we are using the modem, the fax is dead and the modem can be connected for an hour or less |
| 21:37.30 | chris_jones | but thanks for the insight |
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| 21:40.28 | matobago | does anyone know how works the waiting call in a CIsco 7912g??? |
| 21:45.35 | twisted | YESSSS! |
| 21:46.05 | {o_o} | YESSSSS! (one more S than you! |
| 21:46.09 | twisted | lol |
| 21:46.12 | {o_o} | heh |
| 21:46.14 | twisted | you have no idea what i'm talking about tho |
| 21:46.16 | {o_o} | why so happy |
| 21:46.20 | {o_o} | that's why i'm asking |
| 21:46.24 | twisted | muahahaha |
| 21:46.52 | twisted | something i just saw that will make it's way out into the public in very due time :) |
| 21:47.02 | {o_o} | let's see |
| 21:47.09 | {o_o} | the last thing you guys were talking about was truckers |
| 21:47.13 | {o_o} | and small dicks |
| 21:47.23 | twisted | uhm |
| 21:47.25 | {o_o} | neither of which i'm interested in... but ANYWAYS |
| 21:47.27 | twisted | I wasn't in that conversation |
| 21:47.31 | {o_o} | relaly? |
| 21:47.35 | {o_o} | my bad then |
| 21:48.31 | {o_o} | perhaps something along the lines of this --> http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=crashreport.wmv |
| 21:50.40 | twisted | nope |
| 21:50.54 | {o_o} | i find it kinda disturbing that noone called 911 tho |
| 21:51.02 | twisted | i saw that a long time ago |
| 21:51.27 | *** join/#asterisk RevK_ (~adrian@irc.asterisk-plus.ltd.uk) |
| 21:51.30 | {o_o} | so i'm not up to date ;p |
| 21:51.35 | twisted | well |
| 21:51.39 | twisted | it has to do with asterisk |
| 21:51.50 | twisted | and it's going to make my job a helluva lot simpler |
| 21:51.51 | {o_o} | is the public note out? |
| 21:52.27 | {o_o} | i don't know much about * yet, so it's not going to directly affect me in the short term |
| 21:52.37 | twisted | oh, but it could |
| 21:53.01 | fuzzycat | twisted is baiting again... |
| 21:53.07 | twisted | baiting? |
| 21:53.11 | twisted | lol |
| 21:53.22 | fuzzycat | yes, baiting... |
| 21:53.22 | twisted | i'm not baiting |
| 21:53.46 | twisted | fine...fine....here |
| 21:53.51 | twisted | eat this worm :) |
| 21:53.51 | twisted | Update of /usr/cvsroot/asterisk/pbx |
| 21:53.51 | twisted | In directory mongoose.digium.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5115/pbx |
| 21:53.51 | twisted | Modified Files: |
| 21:53.51 | twisted | pbx_config.c |
| 21:53.51 | twisted | Log Message: |
| 21:53.55 | twisted | Allow "n" or "next" and "s" or "same" in dialplan logic priorities |
| 21:54.23 | fuzzycat | oh, yeah, those, for the clearly disabled.. |
| 21:54.39 | twisted | oh wtf ever |
| 21:54.51 | twisted | i write scripts in dialplan logic that exceed 500 lines |
| 21:55.06 | fuzzycat | and how do you refer to them in goto's? |
| 21:55.24 | twisted | silly boy... |
| 21:55.36 | twisted | exten => 1,1,NoOp("let's start") |
| 21:55.45 | twisted | exten => 1,n,DoSomething() |
| 21:55.47 | twisted | exten => 1,n,DoSomething() |
| 21:55.53 | fuzzycat | goto 1,n ? |
| 21:55.57 | twisted | exten => 1,4,NoOp("Mark") |
| 21:56.03 | twisted | exten => 1,n,DoSomething() |
| 21:56.18 | twisted | exten => 1,n,Goto(4) |
| 21:56.32 | fuzzycat | yes, my point... |
| 21:56.48 | twisted | all you'd have to do is insert marks every so often |
| 21:56.49 | fuzzycat | you still have to number for the gotos.. |
| 21:56.55 | twisted | ahh |
| 21:56.58 | twisted | but you don't |
| 21:57.05 | twisted | you can still refernce by line number |
| 21:57.12 | twisted | because it's not directly interpreted as an 'n' |
| 21:57.14 | citats | fuzzycat: it doesn't store them in the real dialplan as n, it stores them as the actual digit... so after 2 n's if you started at 1 then the 3rd n would be 4 |
| 21:57.21 | fuzzycat | lol, then u have to count them |
| 21:57.35 | twisted | fuzzycat, yes, and if you can handle the task of counting |
| 21:57.36 | twisted | you're fine. |
| 21:57.51 | twisted | add ONE line |
| 21:57.53 | twisted | modify ONE goto |
| 21:57.55 | twisted | and be done |
| 21:58.04 | citats | or just do the smart thing and generate your config with a script |
| 21:58.14 | fuzzycat | yah |
| 21:58.19 | fuzzycat | perzackly |
| 21:58.20 | twisted | you have your way |
| 21:58.29 | twisted | so it however the fuck you want |
| 21:58.31 | twisted | I like this method |
| 21:58.37 | twisted | maybe eventually I won't |
| 21:59.11 | fuzzycat | you only use it cos you can't count ;) |
| 21:59.16 | twisted | but if you wanna get all superior about it |
| 21:59.24 | twisted | you can suck my dick |
| 21:59.35 | fuzzycat | if we could find it |
| 21:59.48 | fuzzycat | muwhahahaha |
| 21:59.51 | *** mode/#asterisk [+q fuzzycat!*@*] by twisted |
| 22:00.07 | *** join/#asterisk aza (~aza_rc@62.231.41.62) |
| 22:00.08 | *** mode/#asterisk [-q fuzzycat!*@*] by twisted |
| 22:00.13 | fuzzycat | wuss |
| 22:00.19 | twisted | oh come off it |
| 22:01.14 | ManxPwr | The answer is disallow=all and allow=ulaw in sip.conf or iax.conf (no other allow= lines). I don't know what the question was but that's usually the answer. |
| 22:01.28 | twisted | ManxPwr, ROFLMAO |
| 22:01.37 | citats | hmmm, autoresponse to something? |
| 22:01.43 | ManxPwr | citats, Naw. |
| 22:01.45 | citats | hehe |
| 22:01.46 | fuzzycat | pwr ? someone stole part of you! |
| 22:01.58 | twisted | yeah, Manx, what happened to your 'o'? |
| 22:02.01 | citats | ManxPwr: thats not your usual nick is it? |
| 22:02.06 | ManxPwr | fuzzycat, I forgot to log out of IRC before I left home on tues |
| 22:02.17 | ManxPwr | So I have to use a slightly different nick |
| 22:02.20 | twisted | ManxPwr, /ns ghost ManxPower |
| 22:02.25 | fuzzycat | why not ghost? |
| 22:02.28 | citats | yeah get nickserv to kick it |
| 22:02.34 | *** join/#asterisk herag (herag@67-21-168-150.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 22:02.47 | ManxPwr | fuzzycat, Uh, 'cause I don't know how to use ghost. |
| 22:02.53 | twisted | ManxPwr, i just told you how |
| 22:02.53 | ManxPwr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.02 | ManxPwr | gives me incorrect password |
| 22:03.04 | twisted | oh |
| 22:03.07 | twisted | add your password to the end |
| 22:03.10 | twisted | :P |
| 22:03.11 | fuzzycat | /msg nickserv ghost password |
| 22:03.15 | ManxPwr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.18 | ManxPwr | ugh |
| 22:03.19 | fuzzycat | lol |
| 22:03.22 | twisted | hmm |
| 22:03.23 | twisted | okay |
| 22:03.26 | twisted | i'll kill it for you |
| 22:03.26 | fuzzycat | roflmao |
| 22:03.28 | citats | doh |
| 22:03.28 | Aharonov | hmm. I thought that I had to kick myself :-) |
| 22:03.37 | ManxPwr | I DO know how to change my password |
| 22:03.50 | fuzzycat | but can u do it before we do? |
| 22:03.56 | twisted | manx |
| 22:03.57 | twisted | done |
| 22:03.58 | twisted | :) |
| 22:04.18 | herag | http://pastebin.ca/1217 I can't figure out how why my dialplan won't accept the extension I'm trying to push onto it...a call comes into incoming, and I want it to go to the gotoline if I punch in 99 while it's doing the waitexten, any help? |
| 22:04.19 | twisted | [17:03] -NickServ- The nickname [ManxPower] has been recovered |
| 22:04.19 | twisted | [17:03] -NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ RELEASE ManxPower to release the nickname before the timeout |
| 22:04.24 | twisted | [17:03] -NickServ- The nickname [ManxPower] has been released |
| 22:05.13 | twisted | ManxPwr, now, type /nick ManxPower |
| 22:05.15 | twisted | :P |
| 22:05.20 | herag | the weird thing is that this was working at one point....I dunno what I changed to make it break |
| 22:05.37 | ManxPwr | -NickServ- The nickname [manxpower] is not being enforced |
| 22:05.43 | twisted | yeah |
| 22:05.43 | zamsler | is anyone having problems with broadvoice? |
| 22:05.45 | twisted | i just released it |
| 22:05.48 | fuzzycat | lol |
| 22:06.14 | fuzzycat | ghost! |
| 22:06.21 | twisted | yea, you can ghost yourself |
| 22:06.38 | twisted | zamsler, dunno, i fired them long ago |
| 22:06.42 | zamsler | hmmm |
| 22:06.49 | zamsler | i worked yesterday |
| 22:06.53 | twisted | but according to the mailing list |
| 22:06.57 | twisted | there are lots of problems |
| 22:06.58 | ManxPower | twisted, Thanks. |
| 22:07.01 | zamsler | now it doesn;t work |
| 22:07.04 | twisted | ManxPower, hehe. Anytime ;) |
| 22:07.11 | twisted | (that is, unless you change your password ) |
| 22:07.25 | ManxPower | I guess a useful bot does exist afterall. I thought they were just a myth, like unicorns |
| 22:08.50 | WilliamK | cvs server: asterisk/channels/chan_iax.c is no longer in the repository |
| 22:08.50 | WilliamK | cvs server: asterisk/channels/chan_vofr.c is no longer in the repository |
| 22:08.52 | WilliamK | this correct? |
| 22:08.58 | citats | WilliamK: yep |
| 22:09.08 | twisted | WilliamK, yea |
| 22:09.10 | twisted | they got stale |
| 22:09.22 | WilliamK | okie, just making sure |
| 22:09.27 | WilliamK | 1st time I've seen that msg |
| 22:09.50 | fuzzycat | ahh IAX, those were the days... |
| 22:11.20 | *** join/#asterisk rjanacek (~roman@62.218.214.94) |
| 22:11.33 | ManxPower | WilliamK, If you are going to use CVS-HEAd then get on the asterisk-cvs mailing list! |
| 22:12.05 | twisted | fuzzycat, yeah... although, I got into the mess right before iax2 |
| 22:12.10 | twisted | so i didn't get much regular iax usage |
| 22:12.24 | fuzzycat | you were lucky... |
| 22:12.32 | WilliamK | Manx, I am..just haven't had time to read it entirely in depth today |
| 22:12.42 | fuzzycat | one day a checkout, IAX not compile, only iax2... |
| 22:12.46 | fuzzycat | much havoc.. |
| 22:12.54 | fuzzycat | then relief |
| 22:13.58 | fuzzycat | but not as bad as the day notransfer= appeared |
| 22:14.16 | WilliamK | ordinarly, I usually read everything before getting the updates, but I read all the zaptel stuff today before doing it =) |
| 22:14.24 | aza | when using the Dial command in AGI is it correct you can't get events (answered, hangup etc.)? |
| 22:14.33 | fuzzycat | ya |
| 22:14.40 | fuzzycat | not during it |
| 22:14.43 | fuzzycat | only after |
| 22:14.58 | sudoer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.13 | ManxPower | sudoer, versions 1 - 26 of IAX? |
| 22:15.39 | fuzzycat | IAX2 from beginning to end? |
| 22:15.42 | fuzzycat | inside out? |
| 22:16.13 | aza | so in the billing apps (e.g. asteriskprepaid) the billing time includes dialling time? |
| 22:17.02 | aza | IAX2 A-Z probably means a supplier terminates to the PSTN worldwide using IAX2 |
| 22:17.37 | fuzzycat | AGI for prepaid? |
| 22:17.44 | fuzzycat | eyg |
| 22:17.49 | fuzzycat | ermm.. wtf |
| 22:17.49 | *** join/#asterisk joe_ (joe@modemcable110.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 22:18.07 | file | mmm IAX2 |
| 22:18.09 | joe_ | hmm.. it just occurred to me that a P166MX is too slow to do certain tasks under asterisk ;P |
| 22:18.25 | file | joe_: well maybe, just maybe |
| 22:19.01 | joe_ | file : cpu usage is only at 50% when you're using the usb interface -> x100p, but it still sounds like a dead monkey crawled into your throat |
| 22:19.04 | *** join/#asterisk markit (~marco@host119-245.pool8172.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:19.08 | file | :) |
| 22:19.10 | fuzzycat | well, only voice related ones :P |
| 22:19.32 | joe_ | fuzzycat : I think the USB interface was the big determinant |
| 22:19.44 | joe_ | does that really do anytihng in hardare? ;) |
| 22:20.31 | fuzzycat | records all your thoughts |
| 22:20.36 | joe_ | heh |
| 22:21.02 | joe_ | bah |
| 22:21.05 | joe_ | 8x #)$@#)$(@#)$( |
| 22:21.33 | fuzzycat | you could try my CD |
| 22:21.57 | *** join/#asterisk sauber (~ask@Gfce3.g.pppool.de) |
| 22:22.53 | herag | http://pastebin.ca/1217 why won't the waitexten() line behave like I want it to? I can't get it to go to the 99 extension, it always just goes to the next priority |
| 22:23.49 | *** join/#asterisk stromboli (~strom@pcp08918108pcs.trnrsv01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:23.57 | WilliamK | wow... new msg after I recompiled |
| 22:23.58 | WilliamK | Oct 2 17:12:22 NOTICE[213005]: chan_zap.c:7378 pri_dchannel: PRI got event: HDLC Abort (6) on Primary D-channel of span 1 |
| 22:24.09 | Ehsan | file.c:475 ast_openstream: File your does not exist in any format |
| 22:24.44 | stromboli | is there a version of Asterisk that works with FreeBSD 4.10? |
| 22:24.47 | zamsler | HELP |
| 22:24.48 | zamsler | chan_sip.c:683 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 0f4438994c4e1936610b711760f3613a@205.234.172.12 for seqno 102 (Non-critical Request) |
| 22:25.02 | zamsler | ??? |
| 22:25.13 | joe_ | that just means that a packet is going to be MIA dude |
| 22:25.29 | zamsler | oh ok |
| 22:25.33 | zamsler | how can I fix it? |
| 22:25.51 | fuzzycat | oh dear : "Citizens pay a flat income tax of 71%" |
| 22:25.51 | joe_ | try not to have a crappy connection between you and the sip client? |
| 22:26.05 | joe_ | fuzzycat: stop playing freeciv ;) |
| 22:26.15 | fuzzycat | nation states... |
| 22:26.20 | joe_ | ah, hehe |
| 22:26.42 | WilliamK | fuzzy, someone told me earlier this week that in the Tax code book it says paying income tax is voluntary |
| 22:26.55 | WilliamK | front inside page of the tax code book |
| 22:27.11 | WilliamK | prob is, once you start paying it's no longer voluntary |
| 22:27.22 | fuzzycat | lol |
| 22:27.46 | herag | I haven't started paying yet...does that mean I shouldn't start? |
| 22:27.50 | stromboli | is there a version of Asterisk that works with FreeBSD 4.10? |
| 22:29.04 | *** join/#asterisk loko_ ([IkaivvMec@gambit.pit.tblive.com) |
| 22:29.16 | loko | I hate having to ident to come in here ;) |
| 22:29.18 | fuzzycat | herag: try it, let us know how you get on - if they let you write from prision that is |
| 22:31.40 | fuzzycat | yah loko - PITA |
| 22:32.57 | *** join/#asterisk jaxxan (jaxxan@202.70.125.109) |
| 22:33.06 | loko | it is when my primary name is taken, so I had to makeup a secondary name some punk didnt register =) |
| 22:33.13 | jaxxan | hey ya'll |
| 22:33.37 | jaxxan | bkw_ around ? |
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| 22:36.30 | loko | anyone know of any place that still has the PAP2-NA in stock |
| 22:39.43 | WilliamK | http://pastebin.ca/1218 |
| 22:39.44 | WilliamK | Ext: 1 Cause: Info. element nonexist or not implemented (99), class = Protocol Error (6) ] |
| 22:39.50 | WilliamK | another new peice of info |
| 22:39.57 | WilliamK | today is an interesting day |
| 22:40.10 | markit | well, bug/improvement #2527 seems very interesting when developing a dialplan (no or few priority renumbering required) |
| 22:41.03 | markit | wondering what happens in a n+101 situation... |
| 22:42.55 | matobago | does anyone know how works the waiting call in a CIsco 7912g??? |
| 22:45.54 | Docelm0 | loko noone does.. They have all been pulled from the shelves.. |
| 22:46.50 | Docelm0 | Im buying a couple of spa's.. I will pay the extra buks for the unnecessary frustration |
| 22:46.59 | matobago | anyone use a cisco 7912g??? |
| 22:47.27 | loko | Well they are selling them to ISPs - how many must an ISP buy to buy them? |
| 22:47.32 | loko | Do some type of join effort |
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| 22:55.12 | *** join/#asterisk astmex (~astmex@einstein.transtelco.com.mx) |
| 22:55.50 | astmex | Does somebody is using ciscos 7912 |
| 22:56.58 | *** join/#asterisk hcir (~hcir@rdbck-static-532.palmer.mtaonline.net) |
| 22:57.43 | hcir | anyone been able to change to default voice in Festival? |
| 23:01.04 | p0lar | What protocols will the PAP2-NA use? |
| 23:01.11 | routerheads_atho | sip |
| 23:01.17 | p0lar | only SIP? |
| 23:01.23 | routerheads_atho | yes |
| 23:02.03 | p0lar | I didn't even know they existed until tonight... heard about them a while back, but thought it was only rumour |
| 23:02.09 | p0lar | pretty inexpensive, though. |
| 23:03.21 | p0lar | Is there any place to get the IAXy's for less than $100? |
| 23:03.40 | loko | ebay |
| 23:03.41 | loko | 97.99 |
| 23:03.55 | p0lar | \= |
| 23:04.06 | p0lar | I guess I asked for that. |
| 23:04.13 | loko | =) |
| 23:04.25 | p0lar | $100/FXS port seems a bit steep, IMHO. |
| 23:04.31 | Blade | mine too |
| 23:04.38 | Blade | you can get cisco ata for $80 |
| 23:04.39 | file | it's IAX2, it's tasty |
| 23:04.59 | p0lar | Well, tasty is good, I agree. |
| 23:05.23 | Blade | it's good if you really need something very high quality |
| 23:05.41 | *** join/#asterisk _-Jon-_ (~jon@CPE000d8861e8f8-CM00080d290642.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:05.48 | p0lar | I do see its nat-friendly advantages |
| 23:06.09 | _-Jon-_ | I'm having a problem with my IAX connection again and wonder if anyone can help. I keep getting this error whenever I get a call.. Oct 2 15:41:11 WARNING[147465]: chan_iax2.c:5495 socket_read: Call rejected by 66.234.228.160: No such context/extension |
| 23:06.38 | Blade | _-Jon-_: exten => numbertryingtocall,1,Answer |
| 23:06.39 | file | _-Jon-_: it's rather self explanitory |
| 23:06.54 | Blade | file: why were you trying not to laugh |
| 23:07.05 | file | Blade: oh nothing... nothing... |
| 23:07.11 | herag | http://pastebin.ca/1220 how come I can't get playtones to push a new extension? I just want to go to extension 9 and then jump out to my menu, but it just sits at the wait() and then times out...what am I doing wrong? |
| 23:07.22 | Blade | you disagree that the IAXY is higher quality than the Cisco ATA? |
| 23:07.22 | Ehsan | how to turn off connection thru native bridge |
| 23:07.26 | _-Jon-_ | Blade, number trying to call being my VoicePulse number, or the actual callers #? |
| 23:07.35 | file | Blade: lalala |
| 23:07.37 | Blade | _-Jon-_: vpnumber |
| 23:07.49 | Blade | file: I wouldn't know as I'm going off of what others say |
| 23:07.59 | Blade | file: I'd be interested to know your opinion |
| 23:08.03 | Blade | I love my ATA |
| 23:08.04 | _-Jon-_ | ohh okay, I'll give that a try.. I can't use exten => s,1,Answer? |
| 23:08.12 | p0lar | I've got an ATA at the office, but no IAXy to compare it to. I can't say that I'm all that impressed by the ata186 compared to other native cisco devices I've used. |
| 23:08.17 | file | let's just say many in here have had their IAXy mysteriously stop working |
| 23:08.20 | Blade | _-Jon-_: not for incoming, I believe |
| 23:08.25 | file | now who was I going to.. ah yes herag |
| 23:08.42 | sudoer | the iaxy is as good as the grandstream |
| 23:08.42 | file | herag: what exactly are you trying to do? because you're doing it the wrong way I think |
| 23:09.02 | p0lar | the grandstream is junk? |
| 23:09.28 | herag | file, this will eventually be my deafult incoming context...I want it to pause for a second or two in case I'm calling so I can get out to a menu in another context |
| 23:09.35 | Ehsan | All VoicePulse users ::: please rate uptime |
| 23:09.49 | file | herag: by pressing a key? |
| 23:10.09 | herag | file, yes, by pressing some number, and defining a new extension |
| 23:10.10 | p0lar | The first player to throw out a good, inexpensive SIP or IAX phone will retire.. it's ridiculous how much they cost! |
| 23:10.16 | file | herag: can't do it like that. |
| 23:10.26 | herag | file: isn't that how playtones works? |
| 23:10.29 | file | herag: no |
| 23:10.36 | herag | file: i've also tried it with waitexten |
| 23:10.38 | file | playtones plays tones to the caller :) |
| 23:10.43 | file | look at background |
| 23:10.58 | file | it'll allow you to play a file containing whatever of whatever length, and wait for input |
| 23:11.05 | herag | file: yes,I know...I _am_ the call |
| 23:11.10 | herag | *caller |
| 23:11.25 | file | that's all playtones does, is play tones to the caller... nothing more |
| 23:11.28 | file | it won't take input |
| 23:11.53 | Blade | herag: you should download the silence gsm files |
| 23:12.07 | Blade | herag: then do BackGround(silence/4) |
| 23:12.09 | herag | file: hmm, ok...then what about waitexten? |
| 23:12.26 | file | I've never used waitexten, it may be broken for all I know |
| 23:12.28 | Blade | herag: that's what a lot of ppl do |
| 23:12.39 | herag | background? hmm...ok |
| 23:13.05 | file | background plays an audio file, and waits for the user to enter an extension |
| 23:13.08 | file | commonly used with IVRs and such |
| 23:13.35 | herag | why does the wiki say that playtones acts like background and will wait for user input? |
| 23:13.44 | file | probably wrong info |
| 23:13.50 | fpl | has anyone tried MEPIS linux distro ? |
| 23:14.00 | herag | sigh |
| 23:14.05 | file | Play a tone list, either registered (through indications.conf) or a direct list of tones and durations. |
| 23:14.11 | file | show application playtones |
| 23:14.12 | file | :) |
| 23:14.17 | loko | Anyone here with a laptop with the builtin centrio wireless card and using wireless at home or their office? |
| 23:14.25 | file | loko: yes |
| 23:14.47 | loko | which WAP are you using |
| 23:14.55 | file | I have a Belkin 802.11b router |
| 23:14.59 | herag | is there a ringing gsm file? |
| 23:15.03 | Blade | I do I'm using a cheap ass netgear |
| 23:15.19 | loko | oh yea we talked about this before - the belkin sucks, i have probs with my belkin |
| 23:15.25 | Blade | herag: ya |
| 23:15.30 | file | mine calmed down |
| 23:17.05 | p0lar | wrt54g(s) here.. can't say it's all-that either -- I've burned one down by running the TX power on it out with the Satori firmware |
| 23:17.33 | loko | linksys has problems with centrino wireless |
| 23:17.42 | p0lar | can break out the three interfaces (eth0, eth1 and wlan0) to route separately though |
| 23:17.53 | file | standards are made to be followed, mmmk people? |
| 23:18.05 | p0lar | loko: I hadn't noticed.. but I don't do *that* much wireless to be honest. |
| 23:18.12 | loko | are you using Windows XP? |
| 23:18.22 | loko | it may just be a combo of centrino wireless, win xp, and linksys wap |
| 23:18.26 | loko | its a known issue |
| 23:18.29 | p0lar | 2k |
| 23:18.34 | p0lar | well 2k/*nix |
| 23:18.39 | loko | ok |
| 23:18.40 | p0lar | truthfully, I'm unsure if there's an issue with *nix or not |
| 23:18.56 | loko | i dont think there is with unix |
| 23:18.57 | p0lar | I might've gotten it working for the sake of argument, but that was as far as it went. |
| 23:19.04 | loko | i believe its just XP, which is what we run on our work laptops |
| 23:19.14 | Blade | centrino sux |
| 23:19.21 | Blade | I have issues w/ my Netgear |
| 23:19.26 | p0lar | I get problems with my orinoco card, cisco card, prism II, etc with XP and XPSP2 |
| 23:19.53 | p0lar | can't say I care in the least for XP from my experiences, only my opinion tho |
| 23:20.34 | WilliamK | p0lar, you're not the only one |
| 23:20.52 | p0lar | does anyone here use IAX2 across an openvpn TLS/SSL tunnel? |
| 23:21.11 | p0lar | WilliamK: didn't figure as much, but it's always better to localize the scope of your findings. :D |
| 23:21.44 | pfn | interesting, can't make outbound calls with broadvoice unless you register |
| 23:22.41 | p0lar | I need to masq my traffic but am concerned about the size of packets in the tunnel. |
| 23:22.45 | file | pfn: IP based authentication? |
| 23:22.53 | pfn | don't know for certain |
| 23:23.00 | pfn | but that's a relatively recent change, I guess |
| 23:23.14 | pfn | file I don't know if they also do password authentication at that point |
| 23:23.20 | pfn | I haven't looked at my logs |
| 23:23.35 | {o_o} | XPerience! |
| 23:23.54 | WilliamK | XtraCrapolaWeDon'tNeed |
| 23:23.54 | WilliamK | =) |
| 23:25.20 | p0lar | I think the new laptop that work bought me has XP on it.. (ew) I doubt the support droids will smile once they see it disappear from the domain and pop back up with linux. :D |
| 23:25.44 | p0lar | Shame too.. those guys usually play good tricks on people. |
| 23:25.53 | pfn | I don't think I enjoy running linux on a laptop |
| 23:25.54 | mishehu | alright, let's see if I can do this successfully... plug in my PAP2 to the power, but not the network, and reset it to factory defaults |
| 23:26.49 | file | have fun |
| 23:28.38 | herag | background isn't working for me either...something else must be broken, in fact, waitexten was working for me last week...is there anything else I could debug? |
| 23:28.43 | *** join/#asterisk infinii (~wchan@host661461427f.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com) |
| 23:29.11 | Blade | herag: show me your pastebin again |
| 23:29.52 | herag | Blade: the one with background, or with waitexten? |
| 23:29.59 | Blade | background |
| 23:30.01 | file | DTMF recognition? |
| 23:30.15 | herag | ok, one sec, let me paste it up again |
| 23:30.20 | Blade | k |
| 23:31.14 | herag | http://pastebin.ca/1222 |
| 23:31.49 | slePP | really, i'm somewhat surprised my pastebin gets used as much as it does |
| 23:31.55 | mishehu | JerJer: you around? |
| 23:32.12 | Blade | he's idle 6hrs |
| 23:32.12 | herag | file: it almost seems like something like that, this was working just fine with waitexten last weekend, and then sometime midweek when I went back to it, it stopped working, I hadn't even touched any of the config files |
| 23:32.38 | mishehu | This PAP2 isn't even plugged into the network, I keyed in ****, then 73738# and it asks still for a password |
| 23:32.45 | Blade | I would put a wait,1 after answer |
| 23:32.50 | Blade | actually |
| 23:33.03 | Blade | I'll paste something to put into pastebin |
| 23:33.11 | Blade | give me 1sec herag |
| 23:33.34 | *** join/#asterisk icebalm (~icebalm@216.75.167.42) |
| 23:34.23 | herag | take your time Blade, I've been at this for hours...I can wait ; ) |
| 23:34.56 | Blade | herag: http://pastebin.ca/1223 |
| 23:35.33 | Blade | have you watched in console as to what it's doing? |
| 23:35.45 | herag | Blade: yes |
| 23:36.02 | *** join/#asterisk InetNomad (~lenny@rockbox-gw.voiping.com) |
| 23:36.03 | Blade | reload w/ that config and then paste everything that happens |
| 23:36.09 | Blade | in console so I can see. |
| 23:36.29 | herag | Blade: it totally just ignores my input, and continues along it's merry way down the context, ok, I'll paste your stuff in |
| 23:38.04 | Blade | remember to wait until you hear the background before you dial |
| 23:38.42 | Blade | then after you dial 99 wait a few seconds to see if it picks it up |
| 23:39.07 | herag | http://pastebin.ca/1224 |
| 23:39.21 | *** join/#asterisk paulc (paulc@S010600062586a0b4.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 23:39.31 | Blade | try it w/out hangup |
| 23:39.41 | Blade | take s,6 out and reload |
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| 23:40.30 | herag | I did |
| 23:40.34 | herag | it just hangs |
| 23:40.41 | herag | sigh : / |
| 23:40.49 | Blade | try dialing the 99 a second or two after background is played |
| 23:40.56 | Blade | are these two on the same switch or? |
| 23:41.00 | herag | after it's done? |
| 23:41.07 | Blade | what are you doing |
| 23:41.11 | herag | same switch? |
| 23:41.18 | pfn | you can't go to 99 if you do s,6,Hangup |
| 23:41.35 | Blade | anonymous.invalid I guess tells me you're using a provider |
| 23:41.48 | Blade | blah |
| 23:42.04 | herag | ya, I'm dialing a broadvoice number, goes into my asterisk box |
| 23:42.15 | pfn | if you want to hangup after timeout, you need to do t,1,Hangup |
| 23:42.18 | pfn | not s,6,Hangup |
| 23:42.27 | Blade | herag: delete s,6 then reload then try dialing 99 |
| 23:42.31 | pfn | and if it just hangs, you need to be sure you'r doing inband dtmf |
| 23:42.55 | herag | ok, I took out the hangup, it just hangs...how do I ensure I'm doing inband dtmf? |
| 23:43.03 | pfn | dtmfmode=inband |
| 23:43.10 | herag | in my sip.conf, right? |
| 23:43.42 | herag | yes, inband is set |
| 23:44.49 | *** join/#asterisk plungerboy (meowmeow70@d241-168.uoregon.edu) |
| 23:45.22 | Blade | odd |
| 23:46.33 | Blade | did you trying killing asterisk? |
| 23:46.59 | herag | Blade: ya |
| 23:47.03 | herag | : / |
| 23:47.14 | Blade | even after using the config I pasted? |
| 23:47.50 | herag | no |
| 23:48.26 | pfn | so you punch 99 after you hear thank you? |
| 23:48.33 | herag | yes |
| 23:48.43 | Blade | it definately should work |
| 23:48.53 | herag | hmm |
| 23:49.06 | Blade | /notice me your phone number |
| 23:49.08 | Blade | :p |
| 23:52.16 | Blade | did you try from another phone if you don't want to give your # out |
| 23:52.21 | Darwin35 | chan_zap.c: In function `handle_init_event': |
| 23:52.21 | Darwin35 | chan_zap.c:5687: error: `ZT_EVENT_POLARITY' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 23:53.18 | herag | Blade: yes, I have tried other phones...I'm on with broadvoice now, I'm trying to see if they know anything |
| 23:53.30 | Blade | don't bother |
| 23:53.41 | Blade | "They do not support generic SIP" |
| 23:53.51 | Blade | well 'offer support for' |
| 23:55.44 | *** join/#asterisk Umaro (~omgomg@c-67-169-217-89.client.comcast.net) |
| 23:56.46 | pfn | they don't *support* it |
| 23:56.48 | pfn | but they make it available |
| 23:57.02 | pfn | I do inbound dtmf with mine all the time |
| 23:57.03 | pfn | works fine |
| 23:57.32 | *** join/#asterisk MiXi^ (mixi@pD9E59D5D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:58.26 | slePP | is there a sip authorization problem right now? |
| 23:58.35 | pfn | where? |
| 23:58.35 | ManxPower | Log Message: |
| 23:58.35 | ManxPower | Allow "n" or "next" and "s" or "same" in dialplan logic priorities |
| 23:58.36 | ManxPower | ??? |
| 23:58.42 | slePP | cuz one of my users is being forbidden on the first register and on the second register, it's all fine |
| 23:59.11 | file | slePP: I'll give you a hint |
| 23:59.41 | file | actually no I won't because now that I reread your sentence I dunno |
| 23:59.55 | file | registration is working fine for me... unless you mean the request for 407 Proxy Authentication Required |
