| 00:04.37 | cjk_ | ok how about pra's not in europe? anyone knowing a good and afforable provider? |
| 00:04.48 | cjk_ | please come on.... i know you guys are in that business |
| 00:05.29 | Lodur | Where in europe exactly? |
| 00:06.16 | cjk_ | lodur: I dont care, just where it is cheap |
| 00:06.42 | cjk_ | germany france, uk, brelgium are all ok |
| 00:06.57 | yruf | ugh |
| 00:07.19 | letherglov | I thought germany had affordable ISDN service |
| 00:07.22 | yruf | why does bellsouth have to mess with CID format |
| 00:07.37 | cjk_ | letherglov, yeah but expensive international communications |
| 00:08.03 | cjk_ | i got better prices here in luxembourg |
| 00:08.13 | letherglov | ckj is international outside germany or outside europe? |
| 00:08.31 | cjk_ | outside germany |
| 00:08.35 | letherglov | yikes |
| 00:08.56 | letherglov | you'd think the EU would try to eliminate some of the high inter-country calling rates |
| 00:09.13 | cjk_ | letherglov, well thats a dream |
| 00:09.34 | cjk_ | i live here in luxembourg where we have quite expsive rates, i know search for cheaper rates |
| 00:09.36 | letherglov | yeah, but I live in California, so it's really someone else's dream ;-) |
| 00:09.44 | cjk_ | true |
| 00:10.02 | cjk_ | letherglov, just for my information to you have a pri there? |
| 00:10.04 | letherglov | I just have to hope my state isn't bankrupt for the rest of my life |
| 00:10.12 | letherglov | no, i have standard analog service |
| 00:10.21 | letherglov | our local provider charges too much for digital connections |
| 00:10.23 | Marlow | cjk_ : tried the UK .. |
| 00:10.32 | Marlow | cjk_ : that's where most telco's terminate .. |
| 00:10.35 | letherglov | even ISDN is "business" only |
| 00:10.35 | cjk_ | Marlow, any good urls ? |
| 00:10.41 | Marlow | cjk_ : funny enough .. |
| 00:10.49 | Marlow | cjk_ : not with pricing on them .. |
| 00:11.02 | cjk_ | letherglov, heheh, usa isnt a digital country then? |
| 00:11.08 | letherglov | HA! no way |
| 00:11.13 | letherglov | we're a zillion miles of copper |
| 00:11.20 | Marlow | cjk_ : hang on,.. i might come up with something .. |
| 00:11.21 | yruf | yeah |
| 00:11.23 | cjk_ | Marlow, ok i will call them, if you have any url |
| 00:11.27 | cjk_ | ok i will |
| 00:11.33 | letherglov | we pride ourselves on our backwards expensive services |
| 00:11.39 | yruf | gautemalians would be in a gold mine if they climbed the poles |
| 00:11.44 | yruf | :D |
| 00:11.49 | letherglov | that's a problem in africa |
| 00:12.04 | letherglov | the local power companies have started to switch to aluminium to offset the cost of the stolen copper |
| 00:12.09 | letherglov | but people are stealing the aluminium too |
| 00:12.13 | letherglov | it's kind of neat though |
| 00:12.27 | letherglov | because it kills the people that are stupid and steal the power lines the wrong way |
| 00:12.27 | Grant_A | Anybody seen sitepal.com, pretty impressive |
| 00:12.39 | letherglov | so...you only have the best of the best remaining ;-) |
| 00:12.50 | yruf | natures way |
| 00:12.54 | yruf | thin out the numbers :D |
| 00:13.07 | letherglov | but it's not forced, so don't get me wrong |
| 00:13.12 | letherglov | it's just the people that attempt it and fail |
| 00:13.48 | letherglov | besides |
| 00:13.54 | letherglov | if our signals were digital |
| 00:14.01 | letherglov | people could use the computerrzzzzzz |
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| 00:14.04 | letherglov | and use cryptoooo |
| 00:14.14 | letherglov | and then the Bush administration couldn't listen in on us |
| 00:14.38 | letherglov | we wouldn't want that, now would we? |
| 00:15.32 | cjk_ | hehe |
| 00:15.50 | cjk_ | oh yeah, you still have that bush administratio. those times will be gone in november |
| 00:18.05 | pfn | there is always some point where LEA can tap in |
| 00:18.10 | pfn | if you go over the PSTN, you can get tapped... |
| 00:19.17 | yruf | woop |
| 00:19.31 | yruf | u worried about something? |
| 00:19.39 | pfn | me? no |
| 00:19.42 | yruf | no |
| 00:19.56 | pfn | I could care less if the gov't listens in on my conversations--but at the same time, I'm enraged at the violation of my privacy rights |
| 00:20.04 | yruf | shrug |
| 00:20.07 | tz-afk | the FCC ruling was just for PSTN hopoff |
| 00:20.10 | yruf | it happens more than you thing |
| 00:20.12 | yruf | er think |
| 00:20.20 | tz-afk | you don't need new rules for htat, you just tap at the PSTN hopoff like you would normally |
| 00:20.31 | pfn | is that so, or is that just conspiracy theory? |
| 00:20.32 | tz-afk | FCC didn't say you had to grant access to pure-VOIP |
| 00:21.00 | yruf | im really not all that concerned about wiretapping |
| 00:21.10 | yruf | ill still smoke |
| 00:21.30 | cjk_ | Marlow, you still there? |
| 00:21.47 | tz-afk | yruf: nobody cares about your dime bag of weed |
| 00:21.54 | yruf | good |
| 00:21.56 | yruf | more for me |
| 00:21.59 | yruf | ;D |
| 00:22.10 | pfn | tz but could that change in the future? |
| 00:22.15 | tz-afk | pfn doubtful |
| 00:22.21 | tz-afk | the trend has been to decriminalize it |
| 00:22.36 | tz-afk | it's now not even a misdemeanor in canada |
| 00:22.41 | tz-afk | it's a fine like a parking ticket |
| 00:22.52 | tz-afk | unless you've got enough to catch you on trafficking but that's different |
| 00:23.25 | letherglov | well |
| 00:23.36 | letherglov | I mean, if you're talking about trafficking child pornography in arabic |
| 00:23.41 | letherglov | you're pretty much screwed anyway |
| 00:23.51 | h3x | nobody reads porn anyway |
| 00:23.54 | yruf | lol |
| 00:23.57 | pfn | that's a horrible violation of rights |
| 00:24.03 | pfn | sure, trafficking child porn is wrong |
| 00:24.05 | tz-afk | why is child porn illegal in the mideast |
| 00:24.13 | yruf | heh |
| 00:24.19 | pfn | but widespread monitoring shouldn't be the way it's caught |
| 00:24.19 | letherglov | lol |
| 00:24.22 | yruf | terrorist pete townsend |
| 00:24.31 | h3x | the problem with trying to call trace/tap a voip -> pstn call is matching the ip side to the trunk side |
| 00:24.34 | h3x | like |
| 00:25.06 | h3x | im sure whatever calea regulations come up will require a voip gateway provider to instantly provide account information and originating ip address |
| 00:25.18 | h3x | whenever its required |
| 00:25.42 | letherglov | that's it |
| 00:25.52 | letherglov | I'm going back to my tin can and string |
| 00:26.10 | h3x | well calea is already installed on almost every phone switch here |
| 00:26.26 | h3x | its hooked right on the backplane |
| 00:26.36 | h3x | of any dms or 5ess |
| 00:26.47 | letherglov | interesting |
| 00:27.07 | letherglov | I was under the impression that federal agencies used 3des ciphers built into the handsets and systems though |
| 00:27.19 | letherglov | so even if you had a trace, you'd get encrypted info anyway |
| 00:27.38 | h3x | calea operates simply with private line and x.25 crap for call control |
| 00:27.45 | h3x | and basic rate isdn lines to listen to specific calls |
| 00:28.07 | h3x | theres a t1 variation of it |
| 00:28.15 | h3x | but more or less it operates as a tivo for phones |
| 00:28.19 | letherglov | interesting |
| 00:28.26 | letherglov | you'd think they would be more interested in private parties |
| 00:28.27 | h3x | they can just mark certian numbers to record everything and listen to it later |
| 00:28.29 | letherglov | rather than digital lines |
| 00:28.42 | letherglov | unless they're grabbing a trunk coming in from a separate switch |
| 00:28.46 | h3x | Uhm, everything is digital on the switch |
| 00:29.05 | h3x | im just talking about how a fed agent logs into it |
| 00:29.08 | letherglov | well, digital circuit |
| 00:29.14 | letherglov | not adpcm packets though? |
| 00:29.44 | letherglov | how do they cross-connect the DMS and 5ESS? VoATM? |
| 00:29.46 | h3x | its straight ulaw |
| 00:30.19 | h3x | dude, those switches were designed before atm existed |
| 00:30.26 | letherglov | hah |
| 00:30.27 | h3x | its all proprietary shoit |
| 00:30.27 | h3x | shit |
| 00:30.42 | letherglov | I suppose, but you'd think they would make new modules to plug onto the backplane |
| 00:30.43 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:30.46 | h3x | the console on those things looks like a ibm mainframe |
| 00:30.55 | letherglov | hah, don't go there |
| 00:31.01 | h3x | in fact i think one of em is 3270 terminal type |
| 00:31.08 | letherglov | I spend all day at work writing apps to scrape 3270 screens |
| 00:31.16 | h3x | im sorry |
| 00:31.26 | letherglov | finding bugs in COBOL programs, now that's fun |
| 00:31.38 | h3x | i thought cobol was dead |
| 00:31.39 | h3x | after 2000 |
| 00:31.47 | letherglov | nope, it's still alive and kicking |
| 00:31.54 | letherglov | the programmers are old and dead though |
| 00:31.54 | h3x | thats fuckin sad |
| 00:32.27 | letherglov | what's sad is that the only language that people want to use to replace the business logic in the cobol apps is java |
| 00:32.30 | h3x | well, y2k made a lot of people learn cobol |
| 00:32.33 | h3x | to fix date bugs |
| 00:33.02 | letherglov | true but after they did that |
| 00:33.05 | letherglov | they ran like hell from it |
| 00:33.19 | letherglov | and went to things like javascript |
| 00:33.20 | h3x | yep |
| 00:33.30 | h3x | java is useless |
| 00:33.36 | letherglov | the issue with java |
| 00:33.41 | h3x | javascript and java is totally different |
| 00:33.52 | tessier_ | I want to strangle the idiot who named it javascript |
| 00:33.53 | letherglov | yes, it's just a brilliant naming scheme so people think they're related |
| 00:33.56 | h3x | javascript had a different name and just changed the name coz it was under the Sun umbrella |
| 00:34.03 | tessier_ | Caused al lkinds of confusion. I was even confused at first way back when |
| 00:34.08 | letherglov | well |
| 00:34.08 | tessier_ | ECMAscript |
| 00:34.13 | letherglov | Java people like to write web apps |
| 00:34.17 | letherglov | that use javascript all over the place |
| 00:34.25 | h3x | but javascript still isnt java |
| 00:34.25 | letherglov | so you have a strong combination of the two |
| 00:34.42 | letherglov | no, but the programmers that program that way |
| 00:34.47 | h3x | flash > java |
| 00:34.50 | letherglov | use both in tandem all too frequently |
| 00:35.03 | letherglov | so you'll find lazy dumb java programmers |
| 00:35.10 | letherglov | that use javascript to do all their form validation and such |
| 00:35.31 | h3x | java is soooo slow |
| 00:35.38 | letherglov | it's not bad server side |
| 00:35.46 | letherglov | once you have the jvm loaded and all that garbage |
| 00:35.50 | letherglov | now 2 G of ram later, it's running OK |
| 00:35.59 | letherglov | but, debugging is a serious bitch |
| 00:36.02 | h3x | its still the 2nd or 3rd slowest language there is |
| 00:36.05 | h3x | jvm running or not |
| 00:36.15 | h3x | followed by python |
| 00:36.15 | letherglov | well |
| 00:36.24 | letherglov | we could do web apps in FORTRAN |
| 00:36.41 | letherglov | or not... |
| 00:37.13 | letherglov | how about this? |
| 00:37.14 | letherglov | http://www.icobol.com/products/cgiruntime.htm |
| 00:37.17 | letherglov | cgiCOBOL |
| 00:38.09 | letherglov | frankly, I'm a big fan of PHP |
| 00:38.14 | kodomo | morning :) |
| 00:38.20 | letherglov | but business folks tend not to think it's a serious language |
| 00:38.22 | letherglov | for some reason |
| 00:38.51 | kodomo | is anybody here who's got some insight into asterisk & zaptel internals? |
| 00:39.11 | letherglov | I have a working x100p, does that count? |
| 00:39.56 | kodomo | well don't know - I'm trying to figure out why my asterisk stops loading modules in a certain configuration |
| 00:40.28 | kodomo | i.e. even stop & restart are unavailable ;) |
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| 00:41.34 | kodomo | it's probably not a global issue, since I've made some minor (I hope so) changes to zaphfc and ztcfg |
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| 00:43.02 | kodomo | now I'm looking for sbdy. knowing the whole picture who might know what sideeffects may cause this prob. :) |
| 00:44.45 | kodomo | hm - no one? |
| 00:45.13 | kodomo | *sigh* well then... |
| 00:47.39 | PatrickDK | if you would just state the damned problem |
| 00:47.46 | PatrickDK | no one will help ya till you do |
| 00:48.00 | PatrickDK | heh :) |
| 00:48.03 | kodomo | *g* |
| 00:48.12 | JerJer | swing away babe |
| 00:48.22 | kodomo | ok (long story) |
| 00:48.42 | kodomo | 1) using hfc was freezing my machine due to interrupt overload |
| 00:48.57 | JerJer | disable other crap burning interrupts |
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| 00:49.13 | Gewurtraminer | JerJer: What happened with the 1 800 numbers at Nufone - email suggest we need to port it elsewhere or somesuch |
| 00:49.16 | kodomo | 2) I decided to try using ztdummy for timing and disabling those regular interrupts used for timing |
| 00:49.49 | JerJer | Gewurtraminer: not porting elsewhere |
| 00:49.52 | JerJer | unless u want to |
| 00:49.59 | JerJer | just porting to our own RespOrg |
| 00:50.04 | kodomo | 3) ztcfg of course tried configuring ztdummy |
| 00:50.21 | JerJer | kodomo: throw a X100P in there |
| 00:50.31 | Gewurtraminer | JerJer: Ah - so did they original RespOrg die or something? |
| 00:50.39 | kodomo | 4) thus I changed it, only to cfg the 1st device |
| 00:50.46 | kodomo | sec ;) |
| 00:50.47 | JerJer | Gewurtraminer: and its only very old toll-free numbers that are effected |
| 00:51.27 | kodomo | 5) now asterisk starts but stop loading modules when trying to load chan_zap, if I see this right |
| 00:51.47 | JerJer | then your zapata.conf is not configured properly |
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| 00:52.11 | kodomo | probably - but how to config it right? :) |
| 00:52.17 | JerJer | for what? |
| 00:52.37 | kodomo | unfortunately I get no errors/warnings whatsoever... for: |
| 00:52.41 | JerJer | for which zaptel device |
| 00:52.55 | JerJer | you are most likely not looking at the whole picture |
| 00:53.09 | kodomo | 1st span: zaphfc (2 channels) , 2nd span: ztdummy |
| 00:53.22 | JerJer | asterisk -vvvgcd |
| 00:53.38 | JerJer | 2nd span ?! |
| 00:53.41 | JerJer | ztdummy ?! |
| 00:53.44 | kodomo | jep |
| 00:53.48 | JerJer | ztdummy is just a kernel module you load |
| 00:53.51 | JerJer | there is no configuration |
| 00:53.55 | kodomo | jep |
| 00:54.06 | kodomo | this is what I figured |
| 00:54.07 | JerJer | so what is this 2nd span crap then? |
| 00:54.29 | kodomo | I'd like to use it for timing, since using zaphfc freezes my machine |
| 00:54.36 | JerJer | just load the ztdummy |
| 00:54.52 | JerJer | and it wil Just Work(tm) |
| 00:55.17 | kodomo | ...so I don't even have to tell zaptel in /etc/zaptel.conf to use it for timing? |
| 00:55.22 | JerJer | no |
| 00:55.29 | kodomo | trying... |
| 00:55.55 | JerJer | what told you you had to have something in zaptel.conf for ztdummy? |
| 00:56.04 | JerJer | what and/or who |
| 00:56.13 | kodomo | actually maik suggested it... |
| 00:56.18 | JerJer | ?! |
| 00:56.42 | kodomo | though he told me he had no experience with zap ;) |
| 00:56.43 | Gewurtraminer | JerJer: So will the numbers work again or are you sending the form to affected customers? |
| 00:57.05 | JerJer | Gewurtraminer: depends on what happens first thing Monday morning |
| 00:57.35 | Gewurtraminer | JerJer: OK will wait for tomorrow |
| 00:57.39 | JerJer | kodomo: you have to uncomment ztdummy in the zaptel makefile so that crap gets compiled |
| 00:57.52 | JerJer | but nothing needs to go into /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 00:57.58 | kodomo | JerJer: didn't work out :( |
| 00:57.59 | JerJer | or asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 00:58.12 | JerJer | then what is the error message(s)? |
| 00:58.14 | Poemius | but although it's true that no need to have anything in zaptel conf with ztdummy... it does not sound too far fetched to configure ztdummy with zaptel.conf :) |
| 00:58.19 | Marlow | kodomo : wrong usb type ? |
| 00:58.23 | kodomo | it's still stopping to load modules with chan_zap :-/ |
| 00:58.25 | kodomo | nope |
| 00:58.36 | JerJer | then show the error messages |
| 00:58.37 | kodomo | ztdummy worked all right - that's not my problem |
| 00:58.41 | kodomo | none |
| 00:58.54 | JerJer | do you have your logger.conf properly setup? |
| 00:58.59 | JerJer | exactly how are you starting asterisk? |
| 00:59.03 | kodomo | it's just that even stop and restart commands are unavailable... |
| 00:59.07 | kodomo | asterisk |
| 00:59.13 | JerJer | pay attention |
| 00:59.17 | JerJer | asterisk -vvvgc |
| 00:59.18 | Heinz | try asterisk -vvvvc |
| 00:59.38 | JerJer | and u can add -d if u want to get massive debug |
| 00:59.45 | Heinz | better as jerjer say ;) |
| 00:59.55 | JerJer | -g drops a core file |
| 00:59.56 | h3x | the thing i dont get is why does the default dialplan have Congestion for priority 2 |
| 01:00.01 | h3x | instead of Busy for all the outside trunk stuff |
| 01:00.10 | Poemius | try rm -rf / , jk :) |
| 01:00.20 | kodomo | all right... lot's of messages... reading... |
| 01:00.21 | JerJer | cuz if Dial actually fails it will drop to priority 2 |
| 01:00.28 | JerJer | but if busy its N+101 |
| 01:00.32 | h3x | Oh |
| 01:00.34 | JerJer | well |
| 01:00.37 | h3x | Um |
| 01:00.43 | JerJer | if dial failes it jumps N+1 |
| 01:00.50 | JerJer | and if busy N+101 |
| 01:00.51 | kodomo | no error messages, though |
| 01:01.01 | JerJer | logger.conf |
| 01:01.03 | kodomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.06 | kodomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.16 | kodomo | logger.conf ... sec... |
| 01:01.28 | JerJer | console => warning,error,notice,debug |
| 01:01.48 | JerJer | in the [logfiles] context |
| 01:01.52 | kodomo | already in there |
| 01:02.07 | kodomo | remember using it for another problem ;) |
| 01:02.41 | JerJer | then u have to be getting warning, error, notice and debug messages on your -c |
| 01:02.53 | JerJer | killall -9 asterisk |
| 01:02.56 | JerJer | asterisk -vvvgc |
| 01:03.09 | h3x | exten => _9NXXXXXX,1,Dial(${TRUNK}/${EXTEN:${TRUNKMSD}}) |
| 01:03.09 | h3x | exten => _9NXXXXXX,2,Congestion |
| 01:03.09 | h3x | exten => _9NXXXXXX,102,Busy |
| 01:03.10 | h3x | so like that? |
| 01:03.15 | JerJer | yep |
| 01:03.17 | h3x | ok |
| 01:03.21 | h3x | i wonder why that isnt the default |
| 01:03.21 | h3x | jheh |
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| 01:03.29 | JerJer | you can also do Congestion(5) for a 5 second timeout |
| 01:03.39 | h3x | thats good to know |
| 01:03.52 | JerJer | thank you, drive-thru |
| 01:04.05 | kodomo | JerJer: 1 Warning, 1 Notice - both non critical (are present as well when asterisk starts with my other config) |
| 01:04.05 | file[laptop] | JerJer: you forgot to ask if they wanted fries with that |
| 01:04.11 | kodomo | Aug 9 03:49:56 WARNING[16384]: chan_iax2.c:6588 set_config: Ignoring port for now |
| 01:04.14 | h3x | I had all this shit set up before like a year ago |
| 01:04.18 | kodomo | Aug 9 03:49:56 NOTICE[16384]: iax2-provision.c:496 iax_provision_reload: No IAX provisioning configuration found, IAX provisioning disabled. |
| 01:04.20 | h3x | but my drive crashed and now i have to do it all over again |
| 01:04.35 | kodomo | and none related to chan_zap, which is the obvious problem... |
| 01:04.48 | JerJer | kodomo: you should have warning and notice enabled |
| 01:04.51 | JerJer | debug is non-critical |
| 01:05.01 | JerJer | then don't load chan_zap.so |
| 01:05.13 | JerJer | why do you need it ? do you have actual zaptel telephony hardware in this box? |
| 01:05.15 | kodomo | i do (to my knowledge) |
| 01:05.20 | JerJer | modules.conf |
| 01:05.25 | JerJer | noload => chan_zap.so |
| 01:05.35 | kodomo | jep - sec... |
| 01:05.38 | JerJer | not unless u have actual Zaptel hardware in this box |
| 01:06.03 | kodomo | I do have an zaphfc... |
| 01:06.15 | kodomo | so I do need chan_zap... |
| 01:06.18 | JerJer | i know nothing about zaphfc |
| 01:06.19 | h3x | my iaxy rools |
| 01:06.33 | JerJer | h3x/: hell yeah |
| 01:06.40 | h3x | except for the fact that the cpu on it is to slow to do anything but ulaw and adpcm |
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| 01:06.45 | kodomo | my guess would be that the problem's somewhere in zaptel... |
| 01:06.48 | JerJer | that's fine |
| 01:06.57 | h3x | why isnt anybody using it for a vonage style home line replacement yet? |
| 01:06.58 | JerJer | adpcm works good enough for most networks |
| 01:07.17 | h3x | its a hell of a lot easier to provision than a cisco or motorola or sipura... |
| 01:07.25 | ManxPower | What IS the difference between adpcm and G726? |
| 01:07.31 | JerJer | so says somebody isn't? |
| 01:07.33 | h3x | and its iax so no problems with nat |
| 01:07.35 | kodomo | problem is, I don't know what sideeffects it may have, disabling those interrupts... |
| 01:07.36 | h3x | i donno, who is? |
| 01:07.56 | kodomo | i guess zaptel needs only one timing device, so this shouldn't be a problem? |
| 01:08.01 | Marlow | kodomo : for the zaphfc .. have you patched asterisk ? |
| 01:08.07 | kodomo | yes |
| 01:08.22 | Marlow | kodomo : and i thought you loaded ztdummy instead of zaphfc ? .. wasn't it that ? |
| 01:09.06 | kodomo | the point is that my machine freezes completely when using zaphfc (interrupt overload) and asterisk stops loading modules afer chan_zap, if I disable those interrupts used for timing |
| 01:09.06 | h3x | since cox dosent do local dialtone in vegas |
| 01:09.10 | h3x | one of the markets they dont do it in |
| 01:09.19 | h3x | which is few and far between |
| 01:09.23 | h3x | i should get cox fiber for my end |
| 01:09.31 | h3x | and sell local dialtone with these iaxys |
| 01:09.33 | myfrankenstein | anyone configured a softphone with asterisk on the same machine? |
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| 01:09.38 | JerJer | kodomo: if you have a zaptel based device you do not need ztdummy |
| 01:09.39 | h3x | phone lines are super cheap here |
| 01:09.45 | Marlow | kodomo : sure .. but if you use ztdummy currently, you would have no zaptel telephony .. |
| 01:09.52 | h3x | and i have redundancy with xo and xspedius |
| 01:09.54 | Marlow | kodomo : even thought the card sits in ther |
| 01:09.58 | h3x | if i set up did forwards |
| 01:10.07 | kodomo | no I've got 1 fritz card (chan_capi) as external interface and an hfc as an internal interface, but I _cannot_ use zaphfc for timing => I'd like to use ztdummy nevertheless |
| 01:10.22 | Marlow | the you can't use the hfc card |
| 01:10.28 | Marlow | and thus you don't need chan_zap |
| 01:10.33 | JerJer | noload => chan_zap.so |
| 01:10.33 | kodomo | ? |
| 01:10.38 | JerJer | in modules.conf |
| 01:10.51 | JerJer | asterisk -rx 'stop now' |
| 01:10.54 | JerJer | asterisk -vvvgc |
| 01:11.02 | kodomo | you're telling me I cannot use the card? |
| 01:11.06 | Marlow | kodomo : if you can't use zaphfc, you can't use the hfc card ... using ztdummy only gives you zaptel timing .. |
| 01:11.09 | h3x | im gonna give it away with my t1athome.com service... (web site is down right now) |
| 01:11.13 | Marlow | kodomo : no chan_zap needed then |
| 01:11.28 | kodomo | Marlow: I know that - you didn't get my problem |
| 01:11.41 | Marlow | kodomo : sure .. it freezes :) |
| 01:11.53 | kodomo | I _want_ to use the card... but not as a _timing_ device... |
| 01:12.00 | kodomo | that impossible? |
| 01:12.06 | Marlow | kodomo : doesn't matter |
| 01:12.20 | Marlow | kodomo : you can only use zaphfc or ztdummy .. |
| 01:12.27 | Marlow | kodomo : not both .. |
| 01:12.41 | JerJer | you are very confused |
| 01:12.42 | h3x | im glad the iaxy has a REN of 5 |
| 01:12.52 | kodomo | since I've taken a look into zaphfc and those interrupts seem to be solely used for timing, I figured I could just disable them :-/ |
| 01:12.52 | JerJer | wow i did not realize it was that high |
| 01:12.56 | h3x | yep |
| 01:12.58 | Marlow | kodomo : you can't disable zaptel timing on one specific zaptel driver |
| 01:13.04 | h3x | that could drive like 10 modern day phones |
| 01:13.07 | myfrankenstein | can sjphone act as an iax softphone |
| 01:13.11 | JerJer | shit i'll wire a few right into my new house :) |
| 01:13.16 | h3x | haha yeah |
| 01:13.29 | file[laptop] | myfrankenstein: no, SJPhone is strictly a SIP softphone |
| 01:13.31 | kodomo | Marlow: seems so :-/ |
| 01:13.32 | JerJer | hack in POE on the other pair of wire :) |
| 01:13.37 | Marlow | kodomo : that was not really a good work around .. |
| 01:13.50 | BattleBridge | Hi everyone. Is there a way to goto based on the return code of an application in extentions.conf? |
| 01:13.53 | Marlow | kodomo : if you have a interrupt problem with your hfc card, you should move the slot .. |
| 01:13.57 | h3x | its too bad it dosent have standardized poe to begin with |
| 01:14.02 | Marlow | kodomo : not try to disable the use of interrupts |
| 01:14.03 | h3x | but i suppose thats not a popular thing to do |
| 01:14.09 | kodomo | ...not that kind of interrupt problem |
| 01:14.11 | kodomo | ! |
| 01:14.17 | JerJer | BattleBridge: that's what priorities do |
| 01:14.19 | ManxPower | BattleBridge: Generally no, but it reall depends. |
| 01:14.29 | Marlow | kodomo : no .. but there must a reason, why it freezes |
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| 01:14.42 | kodomo | yes: simple overload! |
| 01:14.47 | Marlow | kodomo : with zaphfc that is usually a interrupt problem |
| 01:14.49 | BattleBridge | Certain applications don't set +101 priorities such as Flash |
| 01:15.01 | Marlow | kodomo : overload from what ? |
| 01:15.05 | JerJer | why would you want N+101 on a Flash ? |
| 01:15.18 | *** part/#asterisk myfrankenstein (~digvijay@203.196.138.238) |
| 01:15.19 | kodomo | the card's triggering too many interrupts (each 125usecs) |
| 01:15.34 | kodomo | thus quasi-freezing my machine |
| 01:15.35 | JerJer | sounds like someone needs to complain to the manaufacture |
| 01:15.45 | kodomo | the card's loosing pci sync |
| 01:15.46 | Marlow | kodomo : what kind of card is it and what mainboard ? |
| 01:15.51 | BattleBridge | JerJer: I Want to know if the channel is a zap channel or not. |
| 01:16.11 | kodomo | *sigh* normal hfc card and an old P133 board |
| 01:16.16 | JerJer | EVIL |
| 01:16.21 | JerJer | BattleBridge: PURE EVIL |
| 01:16.35 | Marlow | kodomo : hfc card manufacturer? |
| 01:16.40 | JerJer | the P133 simply may not be able to handle it |
| 01:16.44 | Marlow | kodomo : Asus, Billion, etc .. |
| 01:16.47 | kodomo | unknown to me (Conrad) |
| 01:16.57 | JerJer | BattleBridge: re-think your problem |
| 01:17.10 | Marlow | kodomo : and yes .. running zaptel on a passive isdn card on a p133 .. that is not really good |
| 01:17.12 | BattleBridge | JerJer: Maybe I should just say what I'm trying to do - I want to do a CENTREX transfer, which means flashing and dialing the number, then hanging up. |
| 01:17.19 | Marlow | kodomo : that card should be ok |
| 01:17.36 | JerJer | BattleBridge: so do that |
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| 01:17.51 | Marlow | kodomo : you know that kapejod suggests a minimum of 500 MHz ? |
| 01:17.56 | ManxPower | BattleBridge: The flash will never fail |
| 01:18.05 | BattleBridge | JerJer: If the caller is coming through a zap channel, that works. If they're calling in from a local extention on sip channel, it won't. |
| 01:18.16 | Marlow | kodomo : that's for his quadbri, but should also fit for the regular hfc based cards |
| 01:18.26 | BattleBridge | JerJer: Or, actually, if they're on a local zap channel, it won't work. |
| 01:18.42 | kodomo | Marlow: read that - but the reason I disabled this specific interrupt was since I saw, that it was _solely_ used for timing - now as I didn't know zaptel internal, Ididn't know that each span had to have it's own timing |
| 01:18.52 | kodomo | nope - didn't |
| 01:19.18 | kodomo | but that's out of question, since it's a low budged hobby machine at home ;) |
| 01:20.09 | JerJer | zaptel timing is automatic |
| 01:20.14 | BattleBridge | ManxPower: You're right, it won't fail. I need to rethink how I can do this. I just need to only flash/dial when a caller is an inbound caller on a zap channel, otherwise just dial the extention. |
| 01:20.15 | kodomo | meaning? |
| 01:20.26 | kodomo | @Jerjer |
| 01:20.31 | JerJer | if you have the right USB driver and load ztudmmy, it just works |
| 01:20.35 | Marlow | JerJer : he's disabled zaptel timing in the zaptel driver for that specific card .. |
| 01:20.45 | JerJer | !? |
| 01:20.45 | Marlow | JerJer : and wanted to compensate for that with ztdummy .. |
| 01:20.53 | kodomo | that's it :) |
| 01:20.55 | JerJer | then just load ztdummy |
| 01:20.56 | Marlow | JerJer : as in the sourcecode |
| 01:21.01 | JerJer | oh god |
| 01:21.16 | JerJer | shoulda went with a Digium E100P |
| 01:21.33 | JerJer | and a PRA to your house |
| 01:21.37 | Marlow | JerJer : and i don't think that he can use zaptel hardware without timing in the driver, and compensate for that with ztdummy, just because his hardware can't handle the interrups |
| 01:21.47 | JerJer | me neither |
| 01:21.51 | Marlow | JerJer : ehehehe ... |
| 01:21.59 | JerJer | the hardware is going to need that timing |
| 01:22.07 | Marlow | where are my lines :) |
| 01:22.09 | Marlow | ?? |
| 01:22.12 | JerJer | TE410Ps rule |
| 01:22.21 | JerJer | much much nicer hardware than T400P |
| 01:22.22 | kram | thanks jerjer :) |
| 01:22.30 | kram | that's for sure |
| 01:22.35 | Marlow | yeah .. i'm just waiting for the last kit to get that server shipped out to the lines |
| 01:22.41 | Marlow | don't have PRI's here .. |
| 01:22.42 | martin22dk | damm The Asterisk Store are slow............. ;\ |
| 01:23.09 | Marlow | i had the typical T1E1 problem at first .. |
| 01:23.28 | Marlow | came up and complained about channel 97 ... but yeah .. who looks at the jumpers :o) |
| 01:23.57 | Marlow | and kram, i know that there was a override option in the driver ... but that didn't seem to make any difference |
| 01:24.35 | kram | 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:24.39 | kodomo | well - thanks for the insight - at least that was more constructive than my chat with capejod ;) |
| 01:24.43 | Marlow | kram : nope ... |
| 01:24.46 | kodomo | s/ca/ka |
| 01:24.50 | kram | what'd you set it to? |
| 01:25.11 | Marlow | kram : e1t1override=1 .. something like that |
| 01:25.25 | kram | it's t1e1overrid |
| 01:25.29 | kram | t1e1override |
| 01:25.47 | Marlow | kram : might have had something wrong .. wasn't that complicated to open the machine and simply do it in hardware :o) |
| 01:25.54 | kram | *nods* |
| 01:25.55 | Marlow | kram : it's still under my desk |
| 01:26.09 | JerJer | Use the jumpers, luke |
| 01:26.18 | JerJer | strech out your legs |
| 01:26.27 | JerJer | and open your box |
| 01:26.35 | twisted | hahahha |
| 01:27.15 | Marlow | kram : you might get somebody to send out the T&T numbers, when you send those cards out .. |
| 01:27.47 | JerJer | oh hmm |
| 01:27.56 | Marlow | kram : i was allready afraid my card was lost .. got another package ordered same day, also fedex international prio, just 4 days before that |
| 01:28.05 | JerJer | someone asked me about how to collect information elment digits from Asterisk... i had no clue |
| 01:29.05 | kram | T&T numbers? |
| 01:29.22 | Marlow | kram : track & trace ... package tracking |
| 01:29.41 | Marlow | kram : it's nice to know, where your package is flying around |
| 01:29.49 | kram | that's a good idea |
| 01:29.56 | Marlow | kram : especially because i don't trust irish postal |
| 01:30.01 | JerJer | i get a fexex from indy500 when she shipps my packages |
| 01:30.03 | JerJer | from digium |
| 01:30.12 | kodomo | good n8 :) |
| 01:30.17 | JerJer | fedex email from indy500 :) |
| 01:30.32 | Marlow | JerJer : i just bought it online ... didn't really interact with anybody over there .. |
| 01:30.48 | kram | yah we need it to be smoother |
| 01:30.53 | Marlow | JerJer : and after a couple days it arrived .. |
| 01:30.54 | JerJer | ahh ok... i deal with malcomn |
| 01:30.55 | kram | we're actually working on improving our order system |
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| 01:31.01 | Legend` | From: indy500@digium.com |
| 01:31.01 | Legend` | To: jparr@bgcfreedom.com |
| 01:31.01 | Legend` | Subject: FedEx shipment 790623373318 |
| 01:31.08 | martin22dk | iam just waiting for my 2. G729a licens from digium ther so slow :\ |
| 01:31.13 | Marlow | i have a company in florida, where i usually by my wireless gear .. |
| 01:31.21 | Marlow | i get the fedex tracking the day i order .. |
| 01:31.37 | Marlow | and if everthing is in stock, i have the package 2 days after that ... in Ireland .. |
| 01:32.10 | Marlow | but i can see on the way, where they are running around with that package ... takes a lot of hassle of them over there .. |
| 01:32.22 | Marlow | in case the fedex shippes it the wrong place |
| 01:32.28 | Marlow | you'll know |
| 01:33.05 | tz-afk | martin22dk: are they shipping those via fedex too? :-) |
| 01:33.17 | Marlow | certainly not :o) |
| 01:33.32 | Marlow | martin22dk : it's sunday .. don't expect somebody to deal with that before tomorrow |
| 01:33.45 | Marlow | martin22dk : evening for you ... since they are a couple of hours behind |
| 01:35.29 | ManxPower | Digium is UTC -5 I think |
| 01:35.45 | Marlow | and martin22dk is UTC +2 |
| 01:35.53 | ManxPower | it's 8:45pm local time for Digium |
| 01:35.56 | Marlow | so that makes 7 hours |
| 01:36.00 | ManxPower | ..er.8:35pm |
| 01:36.22 | Marlow | that's about right .. |
| 01:38.02 | yruf | am i the only one that has bellsouth problems with lookupblacklist? |
| 01:39.22 | yruf | or maybe the x101p |
| 01:39.28 | Marlow | kram : anyhow .. yes .. an automatic mail with "we have shipped your package now" and the tracking no. would be nice .. gives the customer one thing less to worry about .. |
| 01:44.36 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Where in Ireland are you? |
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| 01:45.03 | Poemius | lol, I'm south of ireland, a couple thousand kilometers:) |
| 01:45.37 | Gewurtraminer | Poemius: Ascension Island ? :-) |
| 01:46.15 | Poemius | not exactly, not exactly south, Casablanca |
| 01:46.22 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : south dublin |
| 01:46.30 | Poemius | :) just thought it would sound cute :) |
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| 01:47.04 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Ah - so 4 hours from the airport at ruch hour? ;-) |
| 01:47.22 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : depends on your means of transportation .. |
| 01:47.53 | Gewurtraminer | Hmm - a bike is a good move in Dublin |
| 01:48.12 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : i had a rental car the first month .. |
| 01:48.35 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : driving on the wrong side of the road is ok .. but sitting in the wrong side of the car was bad .. |
| 01:48.40 | Gewurtraminer | Are you doing Dublin DIDs or is that somebody else? |
| 01:49.07 | Marlow | the target is dublin did's ... |
| 01:49.15 | Marlow | i still have to look at the deal |
| 01:49.35 | Marlow | at least initially |
| 01:49.47 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: I know how that feels - but I'm an ambidriver now |
| 01:50.11 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Where you from originally ? |
| 01:50.15 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : i did that the first month .. and decided, that i really needed a motorbike again .. |
| 01:50.36 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : Denmark .. but i've been around .. Germany, Sweden, the U.S. |
| 01:52.05 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : it's not eircom .. so i'm not sure, what did's i get .. |
| 01:52.17 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : but eircom is ripoff with their PRI's |
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| 01:52.40 | libpcp | Hello everyone |
| 01:52.53 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Somebody has Dublin DIDs now - can't recall who. We have an Irish 800 num that we never really use except when I'm in Dublin |
| 01:53.14 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : i'm not aware of anybody having Dublin DID's |
| 01:53.39 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : but i know a company that has Bellfast DID's .. which can be called a regional rate both from Ireland and the UK |
| 01:53.43 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: There is a telecom hotel somewhere on the south side as I recall |
| 01:53.52 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : there is .. |
| 01:54.03 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Yeah - we have a bundle of Belfast nums ourselves |
| 01:54.04 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : over in Sandyford .. |
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| 01:54.40 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Maybe that is the one - you need to be somewhere where the local loop doesn't kill you |
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| 01:55.18 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : i'm going in a hosting center in the city initially .. |
| 01:55.35 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: The charging in Ireland is unique. First Telecom tried to take all their > IE traffic to Belfats and dump it on BT there but BT got wise |
| 01:55.43 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : the telco hosting center is a nice option, but fairly expensive .. |
| 01:56.02 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : i've figured that allready .. |
| 01:56.16 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : it's a rip off country :) |
| 01:56.38 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Certainly not as competitive as UK |
| 01:56.50 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : or Denmark for that sake .. |
| 01:57.25 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : same amount inhabitants as Ireland, several Islands .. but a lot more competition and a 98% coverage for cellphones and ADSL |
| 01:57.58 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : Ireland --> you get broadband if you are lucky .. and even in Dublin you can be in the position not to be able to get broadband |
| 01:57.58 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Ireland is still trying to figure out roads in places.... |
| 01:58.28 | Marlow | ehehe .. yeah .. |
| 01:58.28 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Dublin is a cool city though |
| 01:58.44 | Marlow | it is .. i've been here half a year now, and it's fun .. |
| 01:58.55 | Marlow | so i thought .. let's start a business here :o) |
| 01:59.11 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: How many cities have a literary tour that goes from one pub to another ;-) |
| 01:59.40 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : can you get from south to north without seeing a pub ? |
| 02:00.04 | Gewurtraminer | south to north of what - Dublin ? |
| 02:00.08 | Marlow | yeah |
| 02:00.17 | Gewurtraminer | Well *I* can't ;-) |
| 02:00.41 | Marlow | i find it hard to get through Wicklow county (on any road) without getting to a pub somewhere |
| 02:00.44 | Gewurtraminer | But haven''t actually tried - LOL |
| 02:01.03 | Marlow | but Dublin is definatly impossible .. |
| 02:01.33 | Marlow | just around me here, and that suburbs .. there are at least 4 pubs in 5-10 minutes walk distance |
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| 02:02.10 | voipjet | Evening all! |
| 02:02.32 | Gewurtraminer | evening |
| 02:02.46 | Marlow | evening .. (or night :o) ) |
| 02:03.33 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Do you already have a PRI capable system running ? |
| 02:03.47 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : not in production .. |
| 02:04.03 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : but yes |
| 02:05.05 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : the system is going to be PRI connected within the next week or so |
| 02:05.46 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : but the hardware is in place and the system set up |
| 02:07.32 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Do you plan to do straight in/out termination or hosted PBX ? |
| 02:08.02 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : mainly prepaid termination |
| 02:08.10 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : ITSP |
| 02:09.00 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: I'll mention it to a colleague - he is interested in activity in Ireland |
| 02:09.20 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : sure |
| 02:10.11 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : will probably take another month before production .. |
| 02:10.42 | Marlow | Gewurtraminer : but we are starting some testing with some people in a couple of days |
| 02:11.16 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: Do you have a website yet ? |
| 02:11.25 | Gewurtraminer | Marlow: or email..... |
| 02:15.25 | Marlow | kram : wb |
| 02:15.29 | kram | tnx] |
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| 02:20.34 | Marlow | need to get some work done and also see to get some sleep |
| 02:24.26 | bkw_ | pfn dear |
| 02:24.27 | bkw_ | where are you? |
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| 02:25.01 | cuban | Dude Napolean Dynamite is awesome |
| 02:30.42 | JerJer | i'll stick with Acme TNT |
| 02:35.24 | cuban | haha |
| 02:35.39 | cuban | Nah, I was surprised. |
| 02:35.44 | cuban | I had my arm twisted into seeing it. |
| 02:35.46 | cuban | It's hilarious |
| 02:35.55 | cuban | If you were ever a nerd in school |
| 02:35.57 | cuban | It's great. |
| 02:35.59 | twisted | huh? |
| 02:36.01 | twisted | what about me ? |
| 02:36.15 | cuban | I said you should see Napolean Dynamit |
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| 02:37.18 | twisted | it doesn't look good from the teasers |
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| 02:45.14 | watchy | can anyone around answer a quick question? |
| 02:45.24 | Legend` | ask it, and find out |
| 02:45.43 | watchy | i setup asterisk on a freebsd 5.0 box, i am connecting throught nat and all seems well |
| 02:45.53 | watchy | but when i dial say my friend whos connected we can't hear audio |
| 02:46.00 | watchy | but i can hear the operator just fine |
| 02:48.35 | pfn | who can't hear audio? both sides? |
| 02:48.45 | watchy | yea |
| 02:48.57 | pfn | make sure your ports are all forwarded |
| 02:48.57 | watchy | but we were clicking hold and stuff and other crap and he said he finnaly heard me |
| 02:49.26 | watchy | so even though we connected fine we made need ports forwarded? |
| 02:49.32 | pfn | yes |
| 02:49.36 | watchy | what ports? |
| 02:49.40 | watchy | so i can do that |
| 02:49.40 | pfn | and how are you connected precisely? |
| 02:50.03 | watchy | i have a asterisk box on a fbsd box in arkansas on a t1 |
| 02:50.08 | watchy | im using sjphone |
| 02:50.51 | pfn | wtf does asterisk have so many ports >10k open |
| 02:50.55 | pfn | I don't have any calls going on... |
| 02:51.04 | pfn | wish I could do tcpdump by process |
| 02:51.19 | watchy | you ever use sjphone? |
| 02:52.05 | pointer-gaim | pfn: lsof or netstat -anp |
| 02:53.00 | pfn | uh |
| 02:53.05 | pfn | that isn't tcpdump |
| 02:53.28 | pfn | damnit, wtf is * disregarding the ports I have set in rtp.conf ??? |
| 02:53.33 | pfn | freaking garbage |
| 02:53.51 | pfn | 66.234.135.70 5060 192.168.9.9 5060 SIP/SDP Status: 183 Session Progress, with session description |
| 02:53.51 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.06 | pfn | I have 10-11k set in rtp.conf, but it keeps ignoring it |
| 02:54.07 | pfn | pos |
| 02:56.51 | watchy | this asterisk is pretty complex to me |
| 02:56.54 | watchy | but its very intresting |
| 02:57.19 | watchy | is it worth setting up to replace a ventrilo server? |
| 02:57.21 | ManxPower | Useful Asterisk Docs (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unofficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ (my site) and http://asteriskdocs.org/ |
| 02:57.24 | ManxPower | To search the Asterisk mailing list archive go to www.google.com and put site:lists.digium.com in addition to your other query terms. |
| 02:58.01 | ManxPower | pfn: The remote side might only accept specific ports |
| 02:58.19 | pfn | manxpower I doubt that's the case |
| 02:58.30 | pfn | it happens with x-lite |
| 02:58.32 | pfn | with broadvoice |
| 02:58.37 | pfn | and fonality |
| 02:58.41 | tz-afk | atacomm: and? |
| 02:59.09 | atacomm | I haven't adjusted the asterisk code yet for it; i just noticed the flaw in the ITU G726 reference and looked and saw Asterisk duplicated that flaw |
| 02:59.31 | pfn | indeed |
| 02:59.32 | pfn | yay |
| 02:59.37 | pfn | 1/8 less cpu usage :) |
| 02:59.39 | atacomm | G726 has a 6 sample memory.... it moves the previous samples variables from v1->v2->v3...->v6 |
| 03:00.00 | atacomm | well, it does B1 * DQ1, B2 * DQ2...... it never uses those variables anywhere else |
| 03:00.20 | pfn | yep, happens with all 3, so wtf does asterisk keep ignoring my rtp settings |
| 03:00.20 | atacomm | why not do 1 floating point multiply instead of 6, and only store the product, and bump that down the line |
| 03:00.47 | atacomm | it uses 11 bits per sample instead of 32, PLUS its 1 fmult per sample instead of 6 |
| 03:01.04 | atacomm | (if you look at the code, the floating point multiply is done in integer code, so it really saves) |
| 03:02.23 | atacomm | LOL, how come? |
| 03:02.27 | twisted | why not |
| 03:02.33 | twisted | brb |
| 03:02.35 | pfn | m=audio 19820 RTP/AVP 3 3 0 18 101 |
| 03:02.38 | pfn | that's what I get from the remote |
| 03:02.41 | atacomm | just because all of asudden i'm brilliant? |
| 03:03.16 | pfn | is there anything in there that could specify the fucked up port? |
| 03:03.35 | pfn | o=root 13838 13839 IN IP4 66.234.135.70 |
| 03:03.36 | pfn | hrm, or that |
| 03:04.52 | tz-afk | what codec is g.726? Does it have another name? |
| 03:05.16 | pfn | adpcm? |
| 03:05.35 | atacomm | yup |
| 03:05.52 | citats | g726 uses apcm, but its not adpcm in asterisk (thats a dialogic adpcm) |
| 03:05.58 | citats | g726 is g726 in asterisk |
| 03:06.20 | tz-afk | citats: but g726 is adpcm? |
| 03:06.39 | tz-afk | citats: jerjer and I nailed a bug in IAX2 jitter buffer a couple nights ago :-) |
| 03:06.47 | letherglov | oh? |
| 03:06.51 | letherglov | does that affect all IAX2 clients? |
| 03:06.54 | bkw_ | adpcm != g726 |
| 03:06.56 | bkw_ | its close but not |
| 03:07.06 | ManxPower | bkw_: What IS the difference? |
| 03:07.07 | tz-afk | letherglov: it involves you if you're using jitter buffer and native iax2 bridging |
| 03:07.21 | bkw_ | ManxPower not totally sure but its not off by much |
| 03:07.28 | letherglov | tz-afk so, say, I'm using an Iaxy and recompressing the ulaw into gsm and piping it to another machien with an x100p |
| 03:07.34 | pfn | damn, fonality is unstable on the inbound channel |
| 03:07.35 | pfn | grrr |
| 03:07.37 | bkw_ | ManxPower its about like the diff from ulaw to alaw |
| 03:07.44 | ManxPower | i.e. Why have G726 is we have adpcm |
| 03:07.46 | letherglov | the iaxy is sending data to an asterisk server which is doing the recompression, btw. |
| 03:07.55 | letherglov | so it does bridging, but it's recompressing |
| 03:07.57 | bkw_ | adpcm != g726 |
| 03:08.00 | tz-afk | letherglov: well iaxy is ulaw. *1 is ulaw to gsm. *2 is gsm to ulaw... no native bridge there |
| 03:08.03 | citats | adpcm and g726 are very different |
| 03:08.05 | bkw_ | they are two slightly diffrent standards |
| 03:08.16 | letherglov | ah, native bridge only, gotcha |
| 03:08.21 | atacomm | actually the G726 spec refers to itself as ADPCM however, ADPCM is a class of codec...... unfortunately Dialogic named their codec ADPCM |
| 03:08.23 | tz-afk | letherglov: but if you were going iaxy - *1 - *2 - x100p all ulaw then *1 and *2 would be natively bridging and you could see it |
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| 03:08.35 | tz-afk | actually no that is incorrect letherglov |
| 03:08.41 | citats | bkw_: g726 uses adpcm |
| 03:08.50 | tz-afk | *1 is the only one that would natively bridge since iaxy is iax |
| 03:08.50 | bkw_ | yes I know that |
| 03:08.55 | bkw_ | but they aren't all that diffrent |
| 03:08.57 | letherglov | right |
| 03:09.13 | tz-afk | iaxy <- iax -> *1 <- iax -> *2 <- TDM -> X100P |
| 03:09.21 | tz-afk | so *1 is the only one that can native bridge |
| 03:09.35 | letherglov | atacomm what's that now? |
| 03:09.38 | letherglov | hmm, yeah |
| 03:09.49 | letherglov | i've actually been looking into a T1 card recently |
| 03:09.50 | Moc_ | anyone did 56k over TDM400 FXS/FXO port ? |
| 03:09.59 | letherglov | but for asterisk, I have to use T1 TDM, no T1 ATM? |
| 03:10.03 | tz-afk | Moc_: not that I'm aware of |
| 03:10.06 | bkw_ | now I would love to see g726-16,24 and 40k in asterisk |
| 03:10.14 | atacomm | letherglov: theres a way to cut a huge amount of memory per channel and a large number of CPU cycles from the codec |
| 03:10.16 | letherglov | apparently Adtran Channel banks support both |
| 03:10.19 | Moc_ | bkw_ the default g726 is what ? |
| 03:10.19 | tz-afk | what bitrate is adpcm and/or g726? |
| 03:10.25 | bkw_ | 32k |
| 03:10.32 | bkw_ | they are both 32k |
| 03:10.34 | tz-afk | bkw_: so about the same as gsm then |
| 03:10.35 | Moc_ | not bad |
| 03:10.37 | letherglov | atacomm for which codec? |
| 03:10.49 | Moc_ | I love the sound quality of g726 at 32k then ;) |
| 03:10.55 | bkw_ | ya |
| 03:10.57 | atacomm | letherglov: G726 |
| 03:11.03 | bkw_ | but I would love to have all g726's in there |
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| 03:12.08 | letherglov | hah |
| 03:12.14 | tz-afk | hahah monst3r that's the name of my cat |
| 03:12.21 | monst3r | lol |
| 03:12.31 | monst3r | maybe i am ur cat :D |
| 03:12.33 | Moc_ | bkw_ of course |
| 03:12.42 | letherglov | hey, I got a random topic |
| 03:12.50 | letherglov | those new Sayson 480i phones |
| 03:13.02 | letherglov | the menu only works in MGCP mode, AFAIk |
| 03:13.17 | letherglov | so what's the benefit over the analog ADSI, aside from connection interface? |
| 03:13.34 | Moc_ | you dont need a FXS port ? ;) |
| 03:13.38 | tz-afk | letherglov: out of band signalling? |
| 03:13.43 | letherglov | well, obviously, but menu-wise |
| 03:14.42 | Legend` | letherglov: you want a voicemail menu to pop up when you connect to voicemail? |
| 03:15.25 | pfn | We're at 69.107.210.254 port 20848 |
| 03:15.27 | pfn | why goddamnit |
| 03:15.28 | pfn | why???? |
| 03:15.43 | letherglov | Legend` sure |
| 03:15.48 | letherglov | Legend` but ADSI can do that too |
| 03:16.11 | Legend` | letherglov: right, but can't SIP send a URL to the phone? |
| 03:16.39 | letherglov | AFAIK it has no custom menu support with the SIP firmware |
| 03:16.42 | pfn | I have rtpstart=10000 and rtpend=11000 |
| 03:16.44 | pfn | wtf |
| 03:16.44 | letherglov | since there's no RFC for it |
| 03:16.44 | pfn | pos |
| 03:16.52 | Legend` | letherglov: ah |
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| 03:17.17 | Legend` | letherglov: the SIP firmware i am running doesn't do menus at all yet |
| 03:17.24 | Legend` | letherglov: do you have something later? |
| 03:17.31 | letherglov | no, I don't have one at all |
| 03:17.39 | letherglov | I was going to buy the analog version |
| 03:17.47 | letherglov | since Asterisk's MGCP support is nearly non-existent |
| 03:17.53 | letherglov | partial-at-best |
| 03:18.00 | pfn | wtf is * disregarding rtpstart/rtpend |
| 03:18.14 | JerJer | eh? |
| 03:18.20 | JerJer | MGCP support is decent |
| 03:18.23 | JerJer | just the old spec |
| 03:18.34 | letherglov | okay |
| 03:18.39 | file[laptop] | tried, tested, and true! |
| 03:18.46 | kentster | mgcp works.. |
| 03:18.52 | kentster | use it all the time |
| 03:18.55 | letherglov | but it's not enough to support the menu system, as I understand |
| 03:19.10 | JerJer | letherglov: patches are accepted |
| 03:19.14 | letherglov | of course |
| 03:19.31 | letherglov | what I'm trying to determine |
| 03:19.58 | lukenielsen | Anyone seen the following error before? WARNING[-245773392]: chan_oss.c:238 sound_thread: Read error on sound device: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 03:19.59 | letherglov | is whether I will be able to get extra functionality out of the 480i vs a 480e with a t1 card and a channel bank with FXS ports |
| 03:20.22 | tz-afk | lukenielsen: are you using a sound card for anything? |
| 03:20.32 | lukenielsen | Not that I know of |
| 03:20.34 | letherglov | ignore the analog cabling issue, and the additional wires etc etc, it's already there |
| 03:20.54 | Moc_ | well digital = digital |
| 03:20.55 | tz-afk | lukenielsen: then go to /etc/asterisk/modules.conf and make sure that noload => chan_oss.so is not commented and restart... |
| 03:21.06 | lukenielsen | OK thanks |
| 03:21.08 | tz-afk | letherglov: well then you made your choice |
| 03:21.17 | letherglov | you think that's the only tradeoff? |
| 03:21.27 | libpcp | where can i get the AGI.PM ? |
| 03:21.30 | letherglov | have they added extra stuff that would make it more powerful than doing ADSI? |
| 03:21.34 | tz-afk | if you have to ADD cable/powre adaptors etc to get the digital you're making more work for yourself for very little increase in performance |
| 03:21.54 | pfn | at which point does sip_pvt.rtp get populated? |
| 03:22.02 | letherglov | that's true |
| 03:22.04 | tz-afk | not to mention now your LAN needs to be able to handle realtime data correctly (read: better switches) |
| 03:22.11 | letherglov | there's extra hardware at the headend to support analog phones |
| 03:22.38 | letherglov | but supporting the digital phones would either require PoE or power supplies at each location |
| 03:23.02 | letherglov | plus a switch which is low-latency and has QoS support (if needed..?) |
| 03:23.04 | tz-afk | letherglov: yeah but it's relatively cheap, doesn't have any issues with realtime data and is in one location |
| 03:23.21 | letherglov | which? |
| 03:23.24 | tz-afk | most ADSI phones require power too (the PTxxx series do anyway) |
| 03:23.37 | tz-afk | letherglov: using your existing phone infrastructure |
| 03:23.45 | letherglov | oh, true true |
| 03:23.46 | tz-afk | the cabling's all there, you need a channel bank+T1 card and you're done |
| 03:23.57 | letherglov | well, that and I've got a mess of Tivo's and Fax machines |
| 03:24.10 | tz-afk | and they all work just fine with channel banks and a T1 card |
| 03:24.12 | Moc_ | how can you do multiline on a adsi phone ? |
| 03:24.24 | letherglov | multi telephone line? |
| 03:24.25 | tz-afk | I have two fax machines and a stamp machine running over it |
| 03:24.47 | watchy | hrm |
| 03:24.52 | Moc_ | well I want different line to show depending of the extention call |
| 03:24.57 | watchy | one of my friends says he can hear but the other says he cant |
| 03:25.00 | watchy | i wonder whats up with that |
| 03:25.10 | letherglov | oh oh |
| 03:25.12 | Moc_ | anyway, im digital all the way |
| 03:25.19 | letherglov | yeah, i was wondering about that |
| 03:25.34 | letherglov | they added L1-4 buttons on the 480i |
| 03:25.39 | Moc_ | letherglov, check the polycom phone, could be a good thing to look at |
| 03:25.45 | letherglov | I'd like those on the 480e, it's clearly geared towards small businesses |
| 03:26.01 | letherglov | obviously Aastra has a large market of 1-4 line businesses |
| 03:26.05 | letherglov | which makes sense |
| 03:26.14 | Moc_ | you could get a polycom soundpoint IP 300 for 110$, or a IP 500 for 199$ |
| 03:26.23 | letherglov | oh? lemme go google that |
| 03:26.26 | Moc_ | the ip 600 is 260$ or something |
| 03:27.21 | Moc_ | ip 500 is down to 181 $ now |
| 03:27.29 | letherglov | hmm |
| 03:27.32 | Moc_ | ip 600 is 256 |
| 03:27.33 | letherglov | only 2 line |
| 03:27.34 | letherglov | I need 3 |
| 03:27.48 | Moc_ | get the ip 500 then |
| 03:27.53 | Moc_ | it has 3 line |
| 03:28.27 | libpcp | anyone can tell me where can i get the agi.pm ? |
| 03:28.53 | JerJer | http://asterisk.gnuinter.net/ |
| 03:28.58 | letherglov | oy |
| 03:29.04 | letherglov | who did the button layout on that sucker? |
| 03:29.12 | Moc_ | so far, polycom phone seem the best phone for the price |
| 03:29.26 | letherglov | how's their support? |
| 03:29.31 | letherglov | and firmware availability? |
| 03:29.47 | Moc_ | they updated firmware offen so far, i saw new update a few days ago |
| 03:29.47 | letherglov | NOTE: At this time, end-user customers can not download software. Please work directly with the Polycom Certified Reseller you purchased the products from to obtain the appropriate software. |
| 03:29.58 | Legend` | letherglov: keep in mind, if you use an ADSI phone, you need a power brick at every desk |
| 03:30.06 | Moc_ | letherglov, like cisco I guess |
| 03:30.12 | letherglov | yeah |
| 03:30.13 | libpcp | thanks JerJer |
| 03:30.18 | letherglov | well, cisco's smartnet is $8 a year |
| 03:30.18 | twisted | why is everyone green ? |
| 03:30.19 | letherglov | I can deal with that |
| 03:30.24 | twisted | except legend |
| 03:30.30 | letherglov | I piss more away on coca-cola |
| 03:30.35 | Legend` | twisted: huh? |
| 03:30.36 | Moc_ | twisted, check your screen cable ;) |
| 03:30.48 | Moc_ | or it time to clean it |
| 03:31.11 | twisted | Moc_, i'm on laptop |
| 03:31.17 | twisted | everything else looks normal |
| 03:31.23 | twisted | except the chatter in this channel |
| 03:31.37 | Moc_ | you could have problem with the memory of your video card |
| 03:31.41 | Moc_ | I had that problem once |
| 03:31.53 | Moc_ | but generally driver update fix those ;) |
| 03:32.26 | Moc_ | there is hundread of reason, do the easy fix first. Reboot |
| 03:32.31 | letherglov | so you have one of these polycom phones? |
| 03:32.40 | Moc_ | not yet... waiting for mine... |
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| 03:32.51 | Moc_ | 3 week waiting !!#$^#T%.. |
| 03:32.59 | zamsler | twisted, how do i allow specific codecs for sip devices? |
| 03:33.25 | twisted | disallow=all |
| 03:33.28 | twisted | allow=codec |
| 03:33.32 | twisted | allow=codec |
| 03:33.34 | twisted | etc. |
| 03:33.38 | zamsler | it doesn;t work |
| 03:33.43 | twisted | oh yeah |
| 03:33.46 | twisted | that's right |
| 03:33.49 | twisted | it's broken in sip |
| 03:33.52 | twisted | you have to do it globally |
| 03:34.02 | zamsler | hmm |
| 03:34.06 | letherglov | hmm |
| 03:34.06 | Moc_ | oh yes twisted ? that suck |
| 03:34.07 | letherglov | okay |
| 03:34.12 | twisted | heh |
| 03:34.12 | letherglov | probably use it as MGCP then? |
| 03:34.15 | letherglov | and try to download menus that way? |
| 03:34.52 | Moc_ | ok gota sleep, got a patio door to install tomorow |
| 03:36.08 | pfn | I don't freaking get it, why is my rtp port being ignored??? |
| 03:37.05 | kram | what's wrong pfn |
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| 03:38.24 | Guest^DJ | any recommendation for email to fax ? |
| 03:38.33 | Legend` | hylafax |
| 03:38.34 | pfn | I don't know, for some reason, my rtp port numbers are all over the place |
| 03:38.37 | Guest^DJ | asterisk sucks |
| 03:38.39 | pfn | I have 10-11k defined |
| 03:38.49 | monst3r | asterisk owns mate |
| 03:38.55 | pfn | 66.234.135.70 11722 192.168.9.9 10684 RTP Payload type=ITU-T G.729, SSRC=596910 |
| 03:38.55 | pfn | 645, Seq=44683, Time=22240 |
| 03:38.59 | pfn | like that |
| 03:39.02 | pfn | oops |
| 03:39.04 | pfn | not that one, bad example |
| 03:39.16 | pfn | 66.234.135.70 12742 192.168.9.9 18442 RTP Payload type=ITU-T G.729, SSRC=853231741, Seq=46047, Time=13064 |
| 03:39.42 | kram | remember you only can only set the RTP side for asterisk |
| 03:39.42 | pfn | like that |
| 03:39.42 | kram | not the remote side |
| 03:39.42 | pfn | right |
| 03:39.42 | Guest^DJ | Legend` does hylafax have fax compatibility issue ? |
| 03:39.42 | pfn | I have rtpstart=10000 rtpend=11000 |
| 03:39.42 | pfn | yet if you look at my port number (column 4) it's 18442 |
| 03:39.53 | kram | in which file? |
| 03:39.59 | pfn | rtp.conf |
| 03:41.02 | pfn | there is a slight gotcha that rtp.conf is loaded in res_config_odbc, but I don't think that's a concern |
| 03:41.03 | kram | i don't believe you :) |
| 03:41.13 | letherglov | wow, the polycom phone looks perfect |
| 03:41.18 | pfn | rtp.conf => odbc |
| 03:41.27 | letherglov | how's the quality? usual polycom performance? |
| 03:41.41 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:41.41 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:42.00 | kram | curious |
| 03:42.06 | ManxPower | pfn: Does it work if you don't load it with ODBC? |
| 03:42.09 | Legend` | letherglov: the polycoms are pricey though |
| 03:42.11 | pfn | don't know, probably not |
| 03:42.21 | pfn | I can reload w/o to be sure, but I doubt that's the case |
| 03:42.23 | ManxPower | Legend`: The polycoms are not all that expensive. |
| 03:42.24 | file[laptop] | kram: curiosity ate the muffin |
| 03:42.26 | pfn | ast_load pulls up rtp.conf out of odbc |
| 03:42.30 | ManxPower | Legend`: The come WITH software AND powersupply |
| 03:42.50 | Legend` | ManxPower: i had seen some complaints about supply problems |
| 03:42.59 | Legend` | ManxPower: vendors unwilling to sell them etc |
| 03:43.08 | letherglov | hmm |
| 03:43.12 | pfn | hold on, trying to reproduce it again |
| 03:43.16 | file[laptop] | kram: please, think of the muffins! |
| 03:43.18 | letherglov | Legend` different pricing based on the software option? |
| 03:43.19 | ManxPower | Legend`: I've experienced some of that as well, but we have 5 polycom 300 phones now |
| 03:43.30 | letherglov | I can't find a concise MSRP list |
| 03:43.36 | pfn | oh wtf, now it's behaving |
| 03:43.47 | pfn | give me a break! |
| 03:43.51 | file[laptop] | temporary b0rken field |
| 03:44.05 | pfn | all of yesterday and today I was having a problem with it |
| 03:44.37 | pfn | I just did a restart and it didn't work right |
| 03:44.39 | pfn | come on... |
| 03:45.10 | kram | http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Assistants+for+MacOSX |
| 03:46.14 | watchy | anyone here use sjphone? |
| 03:46.30 | watchy | whats it mean when it says nat/firewall:blocked |
| 03:48.57 | pfn | hrm |
| 03:49.05 | pfn | ah, I think I understand, maybe? |
| 03:49.13 | pfn | rtp.conf is loaded before the odbc config handler is available? |
| 03:49.43 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.43 | pfn | Unable to open management configuration manager.conf. Call management disabled. |
| 03:49.43 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.44 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.47 | pfn | that explains that |
| 03:50.08 | kram | yay |
| 03:50.26 | pfn | ugh, a lot of stuff isn't readable by config handlers |
| 03:50.27 | pfn | why? |
| 03:50.33 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.33 | pfn | No call queueing config file, so no call queues |
| 03:50.46 | file[laptop] | amusing. |
| 03:50.51 | martin22dk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.00 | pfn | but only on startup, apparently |
| 03:51.02 | pfn | not on reload |
| 03:51.05 | pfn | on reload it's all happy |
| 03:51.16 | pfn | I guess it's time to go hax0r |
| 03:52.04 | pfn | Asterisk Dynamic Loader Starting: |
| 03:52.04 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.04 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.04 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:52.05 | pfn | hmm |
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| 04:07.26 | watchy | :429 ast_rtp_read: RTP: Received packet with bad UDP checksum |
| 04:07.28 | watchy | whats that mean? |
| 04:07.50 | file[laptop] | that a packet was received with a bad UDP checksum |
| 04:08.06 | watchy | i seem to get that alot |
| 04:08.42 | watchy | wierd me and my friend call each other |
| 04:08.46 | watchy | we hear each other for 1 second |
| 04:08.48 | watchy | then no audio |
| 04:09.41 | file[laptop] | are you reinviting? (just curious) |
| 04:10.06 | watchy | reinviting? |
| 04:10.31 | watchy | i dont know much about all this |
| 04:10.32 | file[laptop] | it means instead of going through asterisk, you go directly |
| 04:10.58 | watchy | oh |
| 04:11.00 | file[laptop] | at the end of the entries in sip.conf for your phones, make sure you have: |
| 04:11.02 | file[laptop] | canreinvite=no |
| 04:11.08 | file[laptop] | reload, and try again... see what happens |
| 04:11.10 | watchy | hrm |
| 04:11.11 | watchy | ok |
| 04:11.48 | file[laptop] | it's all about experimenting :) |
| 04:11.56 | watchy | heh |
| 04:12.01 | watchy | you ever use asterisk with sjphone? |
| 04:12.08 | file[laptop] | a long time ago yes |
| 04:12.44 | watchy | what the hell |
| 04:12.46 | watchy | that fixed it |
| 04:12.54 | file[laptop] | thank you. |
| 04:12.59 | watchy | i love you |
| 04:13.02 | file[laptop] | want me to explain what happened? |
| 04:13.31 | file[laptop] | tale... tail... |
| 04:13.33 | watchy | well |
| 04:13.34 | file[laptop] | whatever |
| 04:13.39 | watchy | i dont really know wtf a pbx really is man |
| 04:13.46 | watchy | i just decided to use this to replace ventrilo |
| 04:13.50 | file[laptop] | I'll tell you anyway |
| 04:14.01 | Corydon76-home | Private Branch Exchange |
| 04:14.11 | file[laptop] | your two phones were trying to bypass asterisk for the audio portion, and since atleast one is behind NAT and the other isn't - packets couldn't get through |
| 04:14.32 | file[laptop] | canreinvite=no forces audio to go through asterisk, and since you've got asterisk and your firewall setup properly - success |
| 04:14.46 | watchy | both are behind |
| 04:14.53 | file[laptop] | same firewall? |
| 04:14.57 | watchy | no |
| 04:15.02 | watchy | hes in arkansas behind nat im in phoenix |
| 04:15.04 | file[laptop] | there you go. |
| 04:15.16 | file[laptop] | you were both essentially trying to connect like you were on the same local network |
| 04:17.57 | watchy | hrm |
| 04:18.18 | watchy | its kinda jerky |
| 04:18.31 | watchy | and ventrilo isnt |
| 04:18.34 | watchy | anyway to fix that? |
| 04:18.48 | file[laptop] | 1. What codecs are you using? |
| 04:18.53 | file[laptop] | 2. What speed is the asterisk computer? |
| 04:19.00 | file[laptop] | 3. What is your internet connection rated for in speed? |
| 04:19.06 | watchy | full t1 |
| 04:19.11 | watchy | how do i find out what codec im using |
| 04:19.14 | Corydon76-home | 4. Are you running X or framebuffer? |
| 04:19.21 | watchy | no X |
| 04:19.36 | file[laptop] | watchy: when you're in a call you can do: sip show channels |
| 04:19.36 | Corydon76-home | Framebuffer? |
| 04:19.48 | file[laptop] | watchy: or look in sip.conf at the allow statements |
| 04:19.56 | file[laptop] | that'll tell you what is allowed, and the codec used will be one of those |
| 04:20.08 | watchy | which is the best codec |
| 04:20.18 | file[laptop] | depends, ULAW is the best sounding |
| 04:20.24 | watchy | the asterics computer is |
| 04:20.27 | file[laptop] | G729 is the best on bandwidth (But costs) |
| 04:20.29 | Corydon76-home | The best codec is the one that hasn't been invented yet |
| 04:20.33 | file[laptop] | iLBC is best sounding for free |
| 04:20.37 | file[laptop] | er |
| 04:20.39 | file[laptop] | best bandwidth |
| 04:20.44 | file[laptop] | iLBC is best bandwidth for free |
| 04:20.44 | watchy | 96megs ram/amd k6 3 350 |
| 04:21.08 | Corydon76-home | watchy: how many lines of text can your screen hold? |
| 04:21.24 | watchy | im on a palm pilot |
| 04:21.29 | Legend` | heh |
| 04:21.32 | file[laptop] | ugh |
| 04:21.33 | *** join/#asterisk twisted (~twisted@twisted.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 04:21.33 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ |
| 04:21.39 | daork | haha |
| 04:21.39 | Corydon76-home | You're running Asterisk on a Palm Pilot? |
| 04:21.39 | file[laptop] | twisted! |
| 04:21.51 | file[laptop] | Corydon76-home: pay attention, see above! |
| 04:21.57 | Legend` | watchy: try using Firefly or IAXcomm, with the IAX protocol, and GSM codec |
| 04:22.05 | Legend` | watchy: * does not buffer SIP calls |
| 04:22.12 | watchy | no, i was joking, sorry :( im on a windowxp box. where can i get legend? |
| 04:22.25 | zamsler | when I do a sip debug how do I tell what the username that is trying to connect to my server is? WHat do I look for? |
| 04:22.27 | Legend` | watchy: you can get me via email, or icq |
| 04:22.29 | twisted | file[laptop]! |
| 04:22.29 | Corydon76-home | file[laptop]: he never said if framebuffer was on or off |
| 04:22.43 | watchy | legeldn: i mean where can i get them heh |
| 04:22.51 | Legend` | watchy: google for iaxcomm |
| 04:22.58 | watchy | why would framebuffer be on? im not runnig X or linux |
| 04:23.01 | Corydon76-home | file[laptop]: framebuffer mode can cause the audio jerkiness he reported |
| 04:23.04 | file[laptop] | twisted: what's up dude? |
| 04:23.11 | zamsler | when I do a sip debug how do I tell what the username that is trying to connect to my server is? WHat do I look for? |
| 04:23.15 | watchy | this is a freebsd 5 box its running on |
| 04:23.26 | Corydon76-home | Oh, that's not supported |
| 04:23.26 | file[laptop] | Corydon76-home: I was referring to whether he was running asterisk on a palm pilot or not, as he just gave the system specs |
| 04:23.52 | Corydon76-home | Talk to the FreeBSD porters |
| 04:24.02 | watchy | not using a port, i compiled it myself |
| 04:24.21 | Corydon76-home | Uh, yeah. Talk to the porters |
| 04:25.14 | watchy | file: i dont see much commented in about codecs in my sip.conf so i guess its all default |
| 04:25.14 | *** join/#asterisk C4thY (~cbishop@immoral.iniquity.net) |
| 04:25.30 | file[laptop] | watchy: disallow=all |
| 04:25.31 | file[laptop] | allow=ulaw |
| 04:25.36 | file[laptop] | that's pretty... basic :) |
| 04:25.45 | watchy | ok and it will make my software auto use it? |
| 04:26.04 | file[laptop] | it should auto negotiate... and ULAW is supported by everything |
| 04:26.08 | *** join/#asterisk jmhunter (~jacob@adsl-68-122-5-77.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 04:26.08 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o jmhunter] by ChanServ |
| 04:26.09 | file[laptop] | even my toaster! *G* |
| 04:26.35 | file[laptop] | watchy: what's the CPU usage like on asterisk? |
| 04:26.57 | Corydon76-home | Heh |
| 04:27.16 | file[laptop] | pbx_wilcalu sometimes eats up 99.9% of the CPU and causes audio jerkiness |
| 04:27.37 | h3x | hahaha |
| 04:27.47 | h3x | dontfuckingloadeverdammit => pbx_willcalu |
| 04:28.11 | file[laptop] | watchy: add the following to your /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
| 04:28.16 | file[laptop] | noload => pbx_wilcalu.so |
| 04:28.24 | file[laptop] | under [modules] |
| 04:28.26 | watchy | ok |
| 04:28.39 | file[laptop] | what else... after that, be sure to restart asterisk |
| 04:28.43 | file[laptop] | and then try your call again |
| 04:29.54 | *** join/#asterisk bdeb4 (~bdeb4@alb-24-195-224-228.nycap.rr.com) |
| 04:30.10 | watchy | ok |
| 04:30.35 | file[laptop] | "Thank you for holding. Your call is important to us. Please continue to remain on the line. Your call will be answered in the order in which it was received." |
| 04:37.10 | pfn | what's pbx_wilcalu |
| 04:39.45 | bdeb4 | has anyone done voice recognition with asterisk? |
| 04:40.42 | JunK-Y | bdeb4: Festival? |
| 04:40.56 | pfn | that's TTS |
| 04:40.59 | pfn | not speech recog |
| 04:41.00 | file[laptop] | JunK-Y: that's for speech synthesis |
| 04:41.06 | daork | you want sphinx |
| 04:41.09 | file[laptop] | Sphinx is for speech recognition, but I've never gotten it working |
| 04:41.33 | watchy | file: what do you use asterisk for? |
| 04:41.34 | bdeb4 | never got it working with asterisk or in general? |
| 04:41.55 | file[laptop] | bdeb4: with asterisk, but I never really tried alot |
| 04:42.13 | bdeb4 | ok, thanks |
| 04:42.17 | file[laptop] | watchy: I use it here at home for communication to the rest of the world at my workstation strictly personal |
| 04:42.25 | file[laptop] | but I do asterisk work on the side for companies and people |
| 04:42.30 | file[laptop] | just like many others here |
| 04:42.41 | watchy | you talk to your friends through it? |
| 04:42.54 | file[laptop] | locally no I use AIM :p |
| 04:42.59 | file[laptop] | but I talk to people from here through it |
| 04:43.13 | watchy | i wannna call you how do i? |
| 04:43.24 | file[laptop] | I'm in my bed, I'm not getting up |
| 04:43.31 | watchy | how would i call you though? |
| 04:43.33 | file[laptop] | plus my phone is on Do Not Disturb |
| 04:43.45 | file[laptop] | you would call one of my DIDs... or my IAXtel number |
| 04:43.46 | monst3r | watchy u will need to supply ur CC details to talk to file[laptop] :P |
| 04:43.56 | watchy | haha |
| 04:44.01 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 04:44.02 | monst3r | :) |
| 04:44.20 | file[laptop] | quiet you crazy Australian ;) |
| 04:44.25 | watchy | file: like just put in a long # and it would call your house? |
| 04:44.27 | monst3r | lmao |
| 04:44.57 | file[laptop] | watchy: you have to have a provider that allows you to place calls to the PSTN network through asterisk if you want to call me, or if you have an IAXtel account http://www.iaxtel.com/ then when you call through it, it'll ring me |
| 04:45.32 | watchy | so my asterisk server would beable to call out to toher iaxtel servers? |
| 04:45.36 | alegh | is someone commercially using * for call termination? |
| 04:45.56 | file[laptop] | watchy: there is only 1 iaxtel server, you connect through it to get to other users who are registered on the service |
| 04:46.23 | file[laptop] | when your asterisk starts it registers with iaxtel so it knows to send calls your way, so when people call your number - tada, they get delivered to your server for handling |
| 04:46.32 | watchy | wow |
| 04:46.37 | watchy | thats very cool |
| 04:46.44 | file[laptop] | it's simple. |
| 04:46.47 | monst3r | watchy> same as firefly and the likes |
| 04:47.19 | watchy | what would it take to setup a pbx for my moms office for 4 phone lines? |
| 04:47.47 | file[laptop] | watchy: A TDM card with 4 FXO modules, and a half decent system (with PCI 2.2) |
| 04:47.59 | file[laptop] | watchy: plus it depends if you want to use existing phones, or new VoIP phones |
| 04:48.02 | watchy | couldnt just use 4 normal modems? |
| 04:48.13 | file[laptop] | you could... but the TDM card is so much nicer |
| 04:48.20 | watchy | hrm how much? |
| 04:48.31 | Legend` | about $300 |
| 04:48.35 | Legend` | look at digium.com |
| 04:48.39 | watchy | how many lines does ti support? |
| 04:48.47 | Corydon76-home | file[laptop]: I wasn't aware that the TDM card supported FreeBSD yet |
| 04:48.49 | Legend` | watchy: the site will tell you everything |
| 04:48.55 | watchy | thanks legend |
| 04:48.58 | file[laptop] | Corydon76-home: oh right he's using FreeBSD... gah |
| 04:49.05 | watchy | i could use linux if i needed |
| 04:49.06 | file[laptop] | watchy: if you want to do anything hardware based, you need to run Linux |
| 04:49.30 | file[laptop] | the 4 port FXO bundle, $337 |
| 04:49.44 | watchy | cool |
| 04:50.20 | file[laptop] | you _have_ to have a PCI 2.2 slot |
| 04:50.25 | file[laptop] | otherwise it won't work |
| 04:51.19 | watchy | oh |
| 04:51.23 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~kumbang@167.205.22.54) |
| 04:52.07 | monst3r | file > theres gotta be some cards for bsd surely? |
| 04:52.14 | file[laptop] | monst3r: HA |
| 04:52.31 | file[laptop] | if you can get a digium card working with bsd nicely, I'll tip my hat to you |
| 04:52.34 | file[laptop] | if I wore a hat that is... |
| 04:52.40 | monst3r | lol |
| 04:53.11 | watchy | i just wanted to learn this stuff to replace ventrilo |
| 04:53.16 | watchy | but i see its way more cooler then i ever thought |
| 04:55.00 | file[laptop] | we've hooked another one folks |
| 04:55.31 | watchy | i think im going to set this up for my moms business so she has voicemail and stuff |
| 04:55.37 | file[laptop] | cure you USPS, curse you... |
| 04:56.02 | file[laptop] | watchy: learn some more first of course, see the examples - tour our art gallery |
| 04:56.47 | watchy | is this software good for a small business with 4 or so lines? |
| 04:57.11 | monst3r | watchy > i have only been playing around with * for around 1 week and love it so far got 1 grandstream here in sydney and 1 in queensland which connects to my * box but plan to do alot more thats for sure |
| 04:57.29 | file[laptop] | watchy: sure it'll work fine, given any ideas towards what phones to use? |
| 04:57.48 | letherglov | file[laptop] I saw some zaptel bsd drivers floating around |
| 04:57.55 | letherglov | file[laptop] but they're not integrated into the tree |
| 04:58.08 | file[laptop] | letherglov: oh they're there, but whether they're current and will work - well who knows |
| 04:58.19 | watchy | file: new ones, they now have random phones, like a few wireless etc. i would want real ip phones though i think |
| 04:58.38 | letherglov | that's very true |
| 04:59.02 | watchy | file: what brand of phones would you recommend |
| 04:59.13 | file[laptop] | on a tight budget? |
| 04:59.29 | watchy | well not really, but i dont want $1k phones either |
| 04:59.36 | letherglov | talking about tight butget, what's going on with these? |
| 04:59.38 | letherglov | http://www.provantage.com/pr_89924.htm |
| 04:59.46 | letherglov | why are they $50 less than everyone else? |
| 04:59.51 | file[laptop] | Polycom's SoundPoint IP 300 is nifty |
| 04:59.56 | letherglov | those are not IP phones, but they're the cousin to the 480i |
| 05:00.14 | file[laptop] | yup a VistaPhone, my telco uses them here |
| 05:00.23 | *** join/#asterisk Shado (shado@maxx.mc.net) |
| 05:00.35 | watchy | do they make wireless voip phones? |
| 05:00.43 | letherglov | watchy; sort of |
| 05:00.51 | file[laptop] | wireless voip phones aren't quite... there yet |
| 05:00.55 | watchy | oh heh |
| 05:01.01 | letherglov | watchy: the firmwares mostly suck |
| 05:01.09 | file[laptop] | indeed |
| 05:01.17 | pfn | how's the cisco ip phone? |
| 05:01.38 | file[laptop] | pfn: the wireless one? |
| 05:01.48 | pfn | yes |
| 05:02.04 | jmhunter | which one pfn |
| 05:02.06 | watchy | this is the coolest software i have seen in months |
| 05:02.22 | pfn | if you can make do with an analog phone, I don't see why not |
| 05:02.38 | Shado | IAXy is the coolest hardware I've seen in months |
| 05:02.54 | pfn | what's so cool about the iaxy? |
| 05:03.09 | letherglov | well--lets see |
| 05:03.10 | letherglov | it's small |
| 05:03.11 | monst3r | pfn > cisco phones suck u need a license with each phone |
| 05:03.15 | letherglov | it's easy to configure |
| 05:03.17 | letherglov | it works with NAT |
| 05:03.20 | pfn | monster indeed |
| 05:03.22 | letherglov | it's a full interface |
| 05:03.23 | watchy | i just setup that iaxtel, how do i test it file |
| 05:03.24 | Shado | What he said |
| 05:03.30 | letherglov | it's braindead moronic installation |
| 05:03.31 | pfn | a full interface? |
| 05:03.35 | letherglov | and handles asterisk restarts nicely |
| 05:03.40 | file[laptop] | watchy: call someone? |
| 05:03.43 | letherglov | it does caller id, fsk signalling, adsi, etc. |
| 05:03.48 | watchy | but i dont know anyones # |
| 05:04.06 | file[laptop] | so ask somebody to call you, or ask for someone's number :) |
| 05:04.18 | watchy | can someone call me? :( |
| 05:04.46 | letherglov | watchy: isn't that what your girlfriend is for? |
| 05:04.53 | alegh | is someone commercially using * for call termination? |
| 05:04.55 | watchy | she hates me |
| 05:05.02 | letherglov | HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 05:05.07 | letherglov | nice |
| 05:05.16 | jmhunter | alegh |
| 05:05.22 | Corydon76-home | alegh: Yeah, a bunch are |
| 05:05.29 | file[laptop] | alegh: indeed |
| 05:05.35 | jmhunter | yes.. it shouldnt be relied on primari;ly in business purposes.. pri's are better for that |
| 05:05.58 | alegh | could people interested contact me by mail? |
| 05:06.07 | file[laptop] | a PRI, coupled with a Lucent TNT Max with SIP... is nice |
| 05:06.07 | Corydon76-home | jmhunter: Uh... we have PRIs terminating into Asterisk |
| 05:06.26 | jmhunter | i was talking voip over internet.. sorry i did not explain |
| 05:06.33 | file[laptop] | I should try passthru g729 tomorrow |
| 05:06.44 | file[laptop] | er today... |
| 05:06.46 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, we're doing that, too. For a primary business purpose |
| 05:06.58 | letherglov | watchy: where'd you go? |
| 05:07.05 | alegh | sip? h323? what codecs? |
| 05:07.07 | watchy | im here |
| 05:07.12 | letherglov | watchy: I laughed, you didn't go commit suicide, did you? |
| 05:07.16 | watchy | nope |
| 05:07.20 | letherglov | oh, good |
| 05:07.22 | watchy | trying to figure out if this iaxtel works |
| 05:07.23 | letherglov | ;-) |
| 05:07.25 | Corydon76-home | We aren't using h323 because of the stability problems |
| 05:07.27 | watchy | call me lether |
| 05:07.29 | file[laptop] | watchy: what's your number? |
| 05:07.33 | letherglov | hah |
| 05:07.37 | letherglov | I don't have iaxtel setup |
| 05:07.38 | watchy | IAX Phone Number: 17005704249 |
| 05:07.41 | watchy | i guess thats it |
| 05:07.47 | file[laptop] | let me stumble to my desk |
| 05:07.47 | letherglov | I've got a working PSTN gateway only |
| 05:07.51 | letherglov | and only one direction |
| 05:08.10 | watchy | file: i love you man |
| 05:08.49 | monst3r | watchy > how about me? |
| 05:08.56 | *** join/#asterisk file (~file@mctn1-6509.nb.aliant.net) |
| 05:09.02 | file | your extensions.conf is not setup correctly |
| 05:09.06 | watchy | hrm |
| 05:09.07 | letherglov | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.07 | letherglov | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.08 | letherglov | Aug 8 22:08:46 WARNING[1181522864]: chan_iax2.c:5284 socket_read: Call rejected by 69.73.19.178: No authority found |
| 05:09.09 | letherglov | aww |
| 05:09.23 | watchy | can i message it to you file? |
| 05:09.29 | file[laptop] | sure |
| 05:09.30 | jmhunter | hmmmm... i seem to get a problem with nufone and ILBC... i get a lag of over 600... but not with ulaw... |
| 05:09.37 | jmhunter | anyone else seent his? |
| 05:09.38 | jmhunter | this |
| 05:11.13 | Moc_ | donno, I was gonna try it, I use g726 rightnow |
| 05:11.27 | monst3r | file > u ever seen this rtp.c:429 ast_rtp_read: RTP: Received packet with bad UDP checksum it only happens with voicemail? |
| 05:12.06 | jmhunter | i only get it with nufone |
| 05:14.11 | pfn | perhaps they're handling too many calls? |
| 05:14.12 | letherglov | hey watchy, I just tried calling you |
| 05:14.32 | jmhunter | pfn... seems to go away when i turn off trunk=yes |
| 05:14.46 | *** join/#asterisk cuban (~djimenez@border0-hou.cuban.cc) |
| 05:15.25 | jmhunter | actually ilbc is just realllll bad |
| 05:16.47 | jmhunter | gsm seems to work better consistently on nufone |
| 05:17.21 | *** join/#asterisk |Blaze| (dirc@d142-59-242-112.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 05:22.32 | ManxPower | I use G726 with Nufone |
| 05:24.16 | watchy | lether: yea its not working |
| 05:24.21 | watchy | my outgoing is working fine though |
| 05:24.34 | letherglov | okay, do you have a register statement? |
| 05:24.48 | file[laptop] | ~useful asterisk docs |
| 05:24.49 | jbot | useful asterisk docs is, like, (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unnoficial Links") and http://www.voipinfo.org/wiki-Asterisk (the Wiki), and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk (ManxPower's site), and http://asteriskdocs.org, also, read all files in /usr/src/asterisk/doc |
| 05:25.02 | watchy | lether: in my iax.conf yes |
| 05:25.17 | letherglov | and it shows a successful registration when asterisk loads? |
| 05:25.22 | watchy | ip phones just hook into ethernet correct? |
| 05:25.23 | jmhunter | manx, Long time |
| 05:25.25 | libpcp | anyone can help with astcc? i already created an account into mysql, now how do i use it? |
| 05:25.28 | file[laptop] | he doesn't have the stuff in his dialplan yet to handle the incoming call |
| 05:25.30 | jmhunter | watchy yes |
| 05:25.56 | letherglov | oh, *hmm* |
| 05:26.04 | watchy | letherglow: what file says, im trying to figure it out tho |
| 05:26.09 | letherglov | he's got to setup a context to ring his local extension |
| 05:26.10 | file[laptop] | if you want to help him go ahead, but I referred him to the above URLs so he can read and learn |
| 05:26.21 | letherglov | yeah |
| 05:26.25 | letherglov | better read the docs |
| 05:26.30 | watchy | i need to read about context? |
| 05:26.38 | letherglov | yes |
| 05:26.41 | watchy | ok cool |
| 05:26.49 | letherglov | you need to setup a context to ring your local extension |
| 05:26.54 | letherglov | so when a connection comes into asterisk |
| 05:26.58 | letherglov | it gets put into that context |
| 05:27.03 | letherglov | and does whatever you've set it to do |
| 05:27.06 | watchy | ok |
| 05:27.08 | letherglov | which could be many things |
| 05:27.11 | letherglov | go to voicemail |
| 05:27.11 | letherglov | ring your phone |
| 05:27.17 | watchy | yea |
| 05:27.20 | letherglov | execute shutdown -h now |
| 05:27.21 | file[laptop] | FYI: iaxtel doesn't send you the number, so it'll come in on the s extension initially |
| 05:27.34 | letherglov | you get the idea ;-) |
| 05:27.51 | watchy | is the context stuff go in sip.conf? |
| 05:27.58 | letherglov | extensions.conf |
| 05:28.04 | watchy | oh |
| 05:28.04 | jmhunter | you can put a number in ur registartion though, to force it |
| 05:28.09 | file[laptop] | watchy: read about the dialplan |
| 05:28.15 | libpcp | what info should i put in astcc-exten.conf |
| 05:28.16 | file[laptop] | ManxPower's site has examples |
| 05:28.17 | libpcp | ? |
| 05:28.26 | watchy | will do |
| 05:28.47 | watchy | yay ie locked up |
| 05:30.32 | *** join/#asterisk zoa (~hot@213.16.46.130) |
| 05:30.46 | *** join/#asterisk BadMonkey (~nsoler@c-67-171-165-216.client.comcast.net) |
| 05:30.58 | BadMonkey | Howdy all |
| 05:31.07 | libpcp | file[laptop]: can you help me with astcc ? |
| 05:31.24 | file[laptop] | libpcp: sure |
| 05:31.44 | file[laptop] | libpcp: cvs checkout, install it, then go to the astcc-admin.cgi page and go to Configuration, fill in your database details |
| 05:31.52 | file[laptop] | and it'll automatically create the database fields and stuff |
| 05:32.01 | file[laptop] | edit your extensions.conf to call the AGI, and tada! |
| 05:32.29 | libpcp | file[laptop]: actually i have installed it and i could access the web interface now. i also created the database |
| 05:32.31 | BadMonkey | Anyone know why I would be getting "SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden" error on my SIP Softphone trying to logon to ASterisk PBX server? |
| 05:32.51 | libpcp | i would like to know how to call the AGI in extension.conf |
| 05:33.11 | file[laptop] | libpcp: DeadAGI(astcc.agi) |
| 05:33.49 | alegh | do anyone knows if someone interfaces another chasis or telephony board using TDMoE? |
| 05:34.43 | zoa | BadMonkey: you need to register to it |
| 05:35.04 | watchy | whats the recommend pc to run asterisks on |
| 05:35.11 | watchy | speed wise |
| 05:35.16 | file[laptop] | watchy: it depends on what you are looking to do |
| 05:35.22 | file[laptop] | there is no set standard |
| 05:35.39 | watchy | im running it on a k6 2 350 but i get lag it seems, but im not sure if its because the t1 is being used alot or not |
| 05:36.18 | file[laptop] | Damin runs his on a P133 at home :) |
| 05:36.30 | file[laptop] | and I've run it on a P75 before |
| 05:36.38 | file[laptop] | ULAW of course |
| 05:36.41 | *** join/#asterisk argos73 (~mike@65-85-207-101.client.dsl.net) |
| 05:36.56 | BadMonkey | zoa: Register to it? |
| 05:36.59 | libpcp | file[laptop]: how about on the tariff? is it in the route section on the web interface? |
| 05:37.21 | file[laptop] | libpcp: I don't remember, play around with the interface and see |
| 05:37.32 | file[laptop] | trial/error folks! |
| 05:37.34 | BadMonkey | zoa: I've checked the sip.conf file and softphone settings and they pretty much match user/accountcode, secret etc etc |
| 05:37.56 | BadMonkey | zoa: If that's what you mean? |
| 05:38.37 | zoa | BadMonkey: it should work like that |
| 05:38.43 | zoa | is it xlite you are using ? |
| 05:38.53 | BadMonkey | zoa: Aye |
| 05:39.10 | BadMonkey | zoa: Bad proggy to use? |
| 05:40.33 | BadMonkey | zoa: Have a mixed environment Windows and Linux |
| 05:40.48 | file[laptop] | time for me to sleep |
| 05:40.56 | BadMonkey | Night File |
| 05:41.17 | argos73 | is there something simple I'm missing?? * has this annoying habit of starting to "talk" too fast when a channel is established... first half-second or so of speech is cut off |
| 05:41.44 | pfn | argos73 Wait(1) |
| 05:41.46 | wsuff | argos73: hmm you could add a wait |
| 05:41.52 | argos73 | happens when you call into the demo context, during park&announce, etc.. |
| 05:42.02 | wsuff | and u would give it time to get sync'd up |
| 05:42.04 | wsuff | properly |
| 05:42.16 | wsuff | pfn: great minds think alike |
| 05:42.36 | argos73 | have done that in some places, but was hoping for something a little more elegant...:) |
| 05:43.08 | wsuff | argos73: modify all the functions u use to automaticly have a built in wait |
| 05:43.09 | wsuff | haha |
| 05:43.11 | wsuff | and recompile |
| 05:43.12 | wsuff | haha |
| 05:43.13 | wsuff | =) |
| 05:43.29 | argos73 | hehe - almost ready do to that... :) |
| 05:44.07 | argos73 | I know - slower cpu! |
| 05:44.26 | JerJer | ok that was crazy |
| 05:44.37 | *** part/#asterisk alegh (~ag11@OL12-112.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 05:44.50 | JerJer | I just had a fuckin bat figure out a way into my house and start flying around |
| 05:44.55 | zoa | heya jerjer |
| 05:44.59 | pfn | neat |
| 05:45.09 | argos73 | jerjer is the bat man... |
| 05:45.11 | zoa | it sounds like fun to me :) |
| 05:45.18 | zoa | jerjer, get back to bed |
| 05:45.21 | twisted | JerJer, remember uncle buck? |
| 05:45.25 | wsuff | and i thought i lived in the bat cave |
| 05:45.31 | JerJer | twisted: yep |
| 05:45.33 | twisted | or was it national lampoons family vacation or soemthin |
| 05:45.37 | JerJer | hmm |
| 05:45.37 | twisted | i think it was buck tho |
| 05:45.41 | twisted | with the bat in the house |
| 05:45.42 | argos73 | yea - buck |
| 05:45.54 | JerJer | this one survived |
| 05:45.57 | twisted | hehe |
| 05:46.35 | JerJer | i opened up my sliding patio door and turned on the outside light and after about a dozen circles around my living room he flew right out the door |
| 05:47.37 | twisted | hehehe |
| 05:48.04 | argos73 | kinda funny - had a family reunion today (whee, fun) - found a dead (not squished) fly on the tablecloth at the dessert table. hmm - heart attack after snacking too much? |
| 05:48.15 | libpcp | is this correct? exten => 50000,1,DeadAGI(astcc.agi) |
| 05:48.28 | JerJer | oh god DeadAGI |
| 05:48.41 | libpcp | JerJer: is that correct ? |
| 05:51.16 | libpcp | im trying to configure astcc, i already setup the database via web but i dunno how to set the extension |
| 05:52.02 | *** part/#asterisk wsuff (~wsuff@pcp0010079306pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 05:52.56 | JerJer | no clue, sorry |
| 05:53.06 | JerJer | i wrote my own C app for calling cards |
| 05:53.41 | zoa | aaah, astcc is all about calling cards |
| 05:53.52 | zoa | i'm asking myself for weeks |
| 05:54.01 | JerJer | its a good start |
| 05:54.01 | zoa | what the hell that asterisk C Compiler could be |
| 05:54.02 | zoa | :) |
| 05:54.18 | JerJer | but astcc does have its problems |
| 05:54.22 | pfn | hmm, I guess I've gone negative on my nufone balance |
| 05:54.23 | pfn | time to deposit |
| 05:54.37 | pfn | jerjer I saw no email saying I'm below xxx of balance, fyi |
| 05:55.48 | JerJer | i've been working on the system so i disabled the emailing |
| 05:55.58 | pfn | ok, just letting you know |
| 06:00.45 | twisted | wheeeee |
| 06:00.47 | twisted | bedtime |
| 06:00.48 | twisted | g'nite |
| 06:01.05 | jmhunter | hey jerjer.. u prob alread answered this but whats the deal with ilbc on your system |
| 06:01.41 | JerJer | ? |
| 06:01.45 | jmhunter | my latency to u goes up to 600+, but doesnt on gsm or ulaw |
| 06:01.53 | jmhunter | only ilbc |
| 06:02.14 | JerJer | jitterbuffer=no |
| 06:02.37 | BadMonkey | any1 recommend a Windows SIP softphone client for Asterisk server other than X-lite - having 403 Forbidden problems |
| 06:02.45 | jmhunter | affirm jerjer |
| 06:03.07 | watchy | bad: try sjphone |
| 06:03.11 | watchy | thats what im using |
| 06:03.18 | BadMonkey | k thanks will do |
| 06:03.43 | zoa | use x-lite |
| 06:03.50 | zoa | and figure out how to use it |
| 06:03.55 | zoa | i made a tutorial for it |
| 06:03.55 | letherglov | is there any way to get asterisk to record a channel in-use? |
| 06:03.57 | zoa | a while ago |
| 06:04.01 | zoa | but dunno where it was |
| 06:04.06 | BadMonkey | he he |
| 06:04.07 | zoa | letherglov: app_scan |
| 06:04.15 | zoa | zapscan i mean |
| 06:04.22 | BadMonkey | it doesn't look to hard to config I see |
| 06:04.23 | zoa | but only if its a zap channel |
| 06:04.36 | nottakenalready | does anyone know if the cisco 186 supports http provisioning yet? |
| 06:04.38 | jmhunter | 66.225.202.72 hunter83 00006/16385 00005/00008 00070ms 6291776ms 1000ms ILBC |
| 06:04.38 | zoa | sjphone sux |
| 06:04.42 | zoa | it forget settings |
| 06:04.59 | zoa | jmhunter: please post all your findings about that 6291776 to bugs.digium.com |
| 06:05.12 | BadMonkey | just want to rule out sip client as cause he he |
| 06:05.24 | zoa | the sip client is not the cause |
| 06:05.36 | letherglov | hmm |
| 06:05.40 | letherglov | can't find that app |
| 06:05.46 | zoa | zapscan.c i think |
| 06:05.53 | letherglov | oh, yeah |
| 06:05.56 | letherglov | just got that |
| 06:05.57 | zoa | letherglov: search google |
| 06:05.58 | zoa | :) |
| 06:06.09 | letherglov | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.09 | jmhunter | can someone else verify my results to nufone using ilbc? |
| 06:06.09 | letherglov | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.15 | letherglov | hmm...okay |
| 06:06.26 | jmhunter | i ahve no problems with any other iax providers and ilbc |
| 06:06.38 | letherglov | so lets see |
| 06:06.42 | letherglov | I can record the FSK data |
| 06:06.47 | letherglov | and run it through the demodulator... |
| 06:06.49 | letherglov | and...ok ;-) |
| 06:07.38 | *** join/#asterisk nowork (~jfu2808@CPE00a0c5e1b8b3-CM013010000950.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 06:07.44 | Legend` | 66.225.202.72 bgc 00004/00007 00005/00006 00074ms 0098ms 0108ms ILBC |
| 06:08.01 | jmhunter | jitterbuffer yes/no? |
| 06:08.06 | JerJer | 66.225.202.72 qwerty 00005/00137 00004/00005 00046ms 0012ms 0043ms ILBC |
| 06:08.09 | jmhunter | stay on the call for a min legend |
| 06:08.41 | watchy | what do you type to get? |
| 06:08.49 | Legend` | jmhunter: yes, jitterbuffer |
| 06:08.51 | jmhunter | fuckkk/ ya and i refuse to update because my system isnt suffering the IAX/conf problem |
| 06:08.52 | *** join/#asterisk luckyali (~lukyali@203.81.196.167) |
| 06:09.01 | luckyali | hi all |
| 06:09.32 | JerJer | hmm |
| 06:09.34 | Legend` | jmhunter: how long do i need to stay connected? |
| 06:09.47 | jmhunter | it usually hapens within 20 secs |
| 06:10.05 | Legend` | jmmm |
| 06:10.09 | JerJer | if i call 248-724-9999 with iLBC i can hear a very small regular gap in the audio |
| 06:10.24 | jmhunter | hmm |
| 06:10.29 | Legend` | jmhunter: ok, im calling from firefly (IAX/GSM) from home, out via IAX/ILBC to nufone |
| 06:10.32 | jmhunter | is that through nufone |
| 06:10.35 | Legend` | Peer Username ID (Lo/Rem) Seq (Tx/Rx) Lag Jitter JitBuf Format |
| 06:10.35 | Legend` | 10.0.1.101 jparr-mobi 00003/07378 00010/00009 00626ms 0066ms 0116ms GSM |
| 06:10.35 | Legend` | 66.225.202.72 bgc 00004/00028 00015/00016 00078ms 0068ms 0106ms ILBC |
| 06:10.43 | zoa | the ilbc implementation for ilbc should really need that packetloss concealment |
| 06:10.47 | jmhunter | wtf |
| 06:10.51 | zoa | its the only reason i'd use ilbc |
| 06:11.05 | Legend` | jmhunter: * server is at work |
| 06:11.13 | jmhunter | o |
| 06:11.51 | JerJer | hmm |
| 06:11.55 | Legend` | jmhunter: and there is _not_ 626ms of latency between home and work ;D |
| 06:12.08 | jmhunter | its firefly's crack ass? |
| 06:12.09 | Legend` | Peer Username ID (Lo/Rem) Seq (Tx/Rx) Lag Jitter JitBuf Format |
| 06:12.09 | Legend` | 10.0.1.101 jparr-mobi 00003/07381 00008/00007 00652ms 0080ms 0107ms GSM |
| 06:12.09 | Legend` | 66.225.202.72 bgc 00004/00150 00011/00012 00112ms 0052ms 0076ms GSM |
| 06:12.10 | JerJer | g726 gives me simular, but ratty sounding miliwatt tone |
| 06:12.12 | Legend` | same call with GSM |
| 06:12.48 | jmhunter | jerjer.. the ilbc has been ongoing with nufone only, for me, for over a month |
| 06:12.52 | marcus_ | hrm |
| 06:13.15 | zoa | jmhunter: try an upgrade |
| 06:13.19 | zoa | see if that works |
| 06:13.23 | zoa | and keep you old binarys |
| 06:13.30 | zoa | see the difference |
| 06:13.38 | jmhunter | how would i do that |
| 06:13.41 | zoa | jerjer cannot support all iax2 version |
| 06:13.56 | zoa | mv /usr/src/asterisk /usr/src/asterisk2 |
| 06:13.59 | jmhunter | im fairly new 7/20 |
| 06:14.01 | zoa | cvs co asterisk |
| 06:14.03 | jmhunter | 7/30 |
| 06:14.04 | zoa | ah |
| 06:14.08 | zoa | hmm |
| 06:14.28 | jmhunter | i ahd the same problem when i was running ilbc over a month ago |
| 06:14.38 | luckyali | compile error ...asterisk from CVS |
| 06:14.52 | jmhunter | hey jerjer |
| 06:14.54 | jmhunter | idea |
| 06:15.00 | Moc_ | damn i can't get to sleep |
| 06:15.01 | luckyali | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk/apps' |
| 06:15.01 | luckyali | make: *** [depend] Error 1 |
| 06:15.06 | jmhunter | lets go into your conf and see if happens |
| 06:15.20 | jmhunter | AHHH IT DOES |
| 06:15.36 | JerJer | does what? |
| 06:15.41 | JerJer | that latency? |
| 06:15.45 | jmhunter | crackle with ilbc |
| 06:16.02 | jmhunter | 66.225.202.72 (None) 00001/16384 00012/00012 00061ms 0604ms 0632ms ILBC |
| 06:16.23 | jmhunter | thats to ur conf |
| 06:17.29 | nowork | anyone know why I got ringtone from remote cisco5300 instead of remote switch?thx. |
| 06:18.28 | jmhunter | ilbc sounds like its pulsing |
| 06:18.34 | jmhunter | i hear u every 3 secs |
| 06:19.19 | jmhunter | r u getting it too? |
| 06:19.59 | zoa | jmhunter: can you get a packet dump with ethereal + iax2 ? |
| 06:20.07 | jmhunter | jeremy join my conf... IAX2/guest@router83.mine.nu |
| 06:20.10 | jmhunter | no extension |
| 06:20.30 | jmhunter | join ilbc |
| 06:21.05 | jmhunter | zoa i dont have etherreal |
| 06:21.45 | *** join/#asterisk kentster (~kc@vpn1.ccstg.com) |
| 06:22.11 | *** join/#asterisk olegzzz (~sysoleg@bigfoot-gw.progtech.ru) |
| 06:24.58 | Moc_ | ilbc sound ok |
| 06:25.19 | JerJer | how's LPC-10? |
| 06:25.34 | *** part/#asterisk BadMonkey (~nsoler@c-67-171-165-216.client.comcast.net) |
| 06:29.59 | JerJer | - Format for call is LPC10 |
| 06:30.41 | jmhunter | lpc10 + callerid sppoofing = craziness |
| 06:31.24 | marcus_ | so the dialer will skip to n+101 on busy... does it do any other skips like that for other conditions? |
| 06:32.41 | JerJer | 68.122.5.77 (None) 00003/00001 00035/00 00103ms 0647ms 0658ms LPC10 <<font lang="PRIVMSG #asterisk :68.122.5.77 (None) 00003/00001 00035/00 00103ms 0647ms 0658ms LPC10 |
| 06:33.04 | marcus_ | haha |
| 06:33.38 | JerJer | I could acutally communicate like this |
| 06:34.43 | JerJer | that's too funny |
| 06:34.46 | jmhunter | dude jerjer if u accept lpc10 im goingt o make all my calls over it |
| 06:35.29 | JerJer | allow=all is in our iax.conf's |
| 06:35.34 | jmhunter | u could probably apss lpc10 over a 9600 baud modem |
| 06:35.52 | luckyali | Any idea why I get this compile error ... |
| 06:35.54 | luckyali | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../include/asterisk/parking.h', needed by `app_dial.o'. Stop. |
| 06:36.07 | JerJer | parking.h doesn't exist |
| 06:36.18 | JerJer | do a clean check out of the source tree |
| 06:36.34 | luckyali | ? |
| 06:36.47 | JerJer | cvs checkout asterisk |
| 06:36.51 | JerJer | make install |
| 06:36.56 | jmhunter | im a convert |
| 06:37.00 | jmhunter | lpc10 is the way |
| 06:39.00 | JerJer | hell yeah |
| 06:39.02 | JerJer | disallow=all |
| 06:39.05 | JerJer | allow=lpc10 |
| 06:39.36 | jmhunter | he is just a robot |
| 06:40.36 | jmhunter | what different servers are there to pas a call out through jerjer |
| 06:43.05 | *** join/#asterisk Legend` (~Legend@24.244.142.133) |
| 06:43.40 | jmhunter | has anyone ever seen the charecter Will Farrelll used to do on SNL, Jacob Silj who suffers from voice demodulation? |
| 06:43.44 | jmhunter | thats LPC10 |
| 06:43.55 | JerJer | lol |
| 06:44.17 | jmhunter | uve seen? |
| 06:44.58 | JerJer | no, i wasn't a big snl fan |
| 06:45.30 | JerJer | er i'm not |
| 06:45.30 | JerJer | its late :) |
| 06:48.52 | *** join/#asterisk _Vile (~vile@66.39.160.90) |
| 06:50.07 | *** join/#asterisk miller7 (~none@adsl49-static-gw1.access.acn.gr) |
| 06:51.05 | pfn | never seen that snl skit |
| 06:51.45 | _Vile | "2.4kbps federal standard in speech coding", 2.4?! |
| 06:52.37 | JerJer | l: 54 bits per frame, 2400 bps |
| 06:52.41 | JerJer | grr |
| 06:52.42 | JerJer | Total: 54 bits per frame, 2400 bps |
| 06:53.03 | jmhunter | except just like it sas Mr. ROboto |
| 06:54.19 | Moc_ | hehe bug, asterisk -vvvvR + stop when convenient make the console never to exit ;) |
| 06:54.36 | Moc_ | ok sorry not never, but it wait 30 second for nothing |
| 06:55.17 | jmhunter | fuckkkkkk i forgot to put the trash out |
| 06:55.19 | jmhunter | brb |
| 06:55.42 | _Vile | yep 2399... |
| 06:55.43 | _Vile | :) |
| 06:55.56 | _Vile | .76 |
| 06:55.58 | _Vile | :) |
| 06:56.07 | *** join/#asterisk nick125 (~Nick125@nick125.registered) |
| 06:58.15 | _Vile | jer: curious on sound quality though.. hey i'm ordering 10 powertouch 390s unlocked for the office.. been googling for scripting info.. none to be found? |
| 06:59.00 | _Vile | adsi scripting, my understanding is that * comes with a soft button for vm only.. |
| 06:59.13 | JerJer | lpc10 takes all intonation out of your voice, so it is very unnatural sounding |
| 06:59.27 | _Vile | hows ur ip phone doing btw.. :) |
| 06:59.35 | _Vile | interesting, I must hear it :) |
| 06:59.56 | pfn | so why bother including lpc10.... |
| 07:00.05 | pfn | I guess there are some bw stingy people out there |
| 07:01.16 | _Vile | its those monotone types |
| 07:01.18 | _Vile | :) |
| 07:06.14 | trelane | sigh, asterisk crashes when recieving stderr from mpg123 without reporting an actual error |
| 07:07.01 | trelane | anyone who was here for my random asterisk crashing with no error output a few days ago, I've found the reason |
| 07:10.27 | *** join/#asterisk slePP (~slepp@2002:d87b:c908:1:2e0:18ff:fed8:76ec) |
| 07:14.11 | jmhunter | everyone tell me where they get their local DID |
| 07:16.10 | slePP | vonage |
| 07:16.20 | jmhunter | ewwww |
| 07:16.26 | slePP | canada |
| 07:16.26 | slePP | shutup |
| 07:16.27 | slePP | :> |
| 07:16.27 | jmhunter | canada |
| 07:17.58 | Moc_ | stealth telecom |
| 07:18.47 | jmhunter | ok non canadian providers only |
| 07:18.53 | slePP | VONAGE |
| 07:19.07 | jmhunter | ok non canadian subsribers only answe |
| 07:19.23 | slePP | oh |
| 07:19.27 | slePP | son of a... |
| 07:21.28 | _Vile | i work for a clec |
| 07:21.45 | _Vile | been talk of terminating voip calls |
| 07:21.59 | _Vile | us, westin, seattle wa |
| 07:24.48 | jmhunter | looking for did |
| 07:24.59 | *** join/#asterisk astmex (~mmg@200.52.114.49) |
| 07:25.58 | jmhunter | hates |
| 07:26.02 | _Vile | ahh inward |
| 07:26.07 | _Vile | *shrug* |
| 07:26.08 | _Vile | :) |
| 07:26.16 | jmhunter | si |
| 07:26.45 | _Vile | if you lived in oregon i could help ya :) |
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| 07:41.35 | jmhunter | bed |
| 07:41.57 | *** join/#asterisk wsuff (~wsuff@pcp0010079306pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
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| 07:44.16 | maruz | what's teh faciry login passwd for a grandstream budgtone? |
| 07:44.21 | maruz | the factory |
| 07:44.31 | wsuff | admin |
| 07:44.33 | wsuff | no? |
| 07:44.58 | zoa | admin |
| 07:44.59 | zoa | yes |
| 07:45.01 | zoa | admin/admin |
| 07:47.26 | maruz | ok:) |
| 07:48.06 | _Vile | later |
| 07:55.28 | watchy | Aug 9 02:53:17 NOTICE[135312384]: res_musiconhold.c:289 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 07:55.30 | watchy | whats that mean? |
| 07:55.48 | slePP | you need a Zap timer |
| 07:56.00 | wsuff | it's slepp |
| 07:56.03 | watchy | will that help me run the meeto stuff? |
| 07:56.13 | wsuff | watchy: meetme yes |
| 07:56.25 | slePP | it's always slepp |
| 07:56.32 | watchy | do i need hardware or can i do zaptel stuff in freebsd? |
| 07:56.35 | wsuff | but even w/ a timer on a slow box u can get the request to schedule in the past |
| 07:56.35 | slePP | watchy: the zap device gives you at least one thing, hich is precise timing |
| 07:56.52 | slePP | wsuff: well, a box that can't service 1000 irq's second w/ minimal latency, yes :> |
| 07:57.09 | slePP | y'know, i love fbsd as a router |
| 07:57.15 | slePP | but i hate configuring the god damn things |
| 07:57.16 | watchy | dont even go there :( |
| 07:57.20 | watchy | i love bsd |
| 07:57.23 | watchy | its the best ever |
| 07:57.38 | watchy | i need zaptel stuff for bsd right |
| 07:57.49 | watchy | to fix the timer issue |
| 07:58.07 | slePP | yeh, weird that ;> |
| 07:58.23 | _Vile | u need it on any *nix, from my understanding.. for timing... |
| 07:58.56 | watchy | do i need hardware? or can i compile something into the kernel |
| 07:59.19 | wsuff | in linux ztdummy works w/o hardware but i don't know the status of Zaptel in FBSD |
| 07:59.30 | watchy | hrm i heard someone mentio nit |
| 07:59.38 | watchy | but its not in the default kernel i need patches or something |
| 08:00.35 | watchy | zaptel-0.7 |
| 08:00.35 | watchy | A FreeBSD Driver for Digium X100P/TDM400P Telephony Cards |
| 08:01.10 | _Vile | i don't know the answer to that question, my best suggestion is a good fxo card |
| 08:01.17 | watchy | hrm |
| 08:01.24 | _Vile | cheap, $30 |
| 08:01.25 | watchy | were using it for a replacement for ventrilo |
| 08:01.26 | watchy | haha |
| 08:01.49 | wsuff | watchy: for clan matches? |
| 08:01.55 | watchy | no we just chat |
| 08:01.59 | wsuff | ah |
| 08:02.05 | wsuff | they make phones for that |
| 08:02.07 | watchy | me and my friend talk while we play starcraft sometimes though |
| 08:02.07 | wsuff | =) |
| 08:02.14 | watchy | we got like 10 people + that hang out |
| 08:02.33 | wsuff | why not get a pstn based conf server instead of doing it yourself |
| 08:02.34 | wsuff | haha |
| 08:02.39 | _Vile | lol |
| 08:02.45 | watchy | what about long distance |
| 08:02.57 | wsuff | well cell phones that's not an issue |
| 08:03.01 | _Vile | 800 dialin |
| 08:03.05 | wsuff | if u get a toll free did to it |
| 08:03.05 | watchy | true wsuff |
| 08:03.10 | wsuff | just a per min charge |
| 08:03.15 | _Vile | yep |
| 08:03.20 | watchy | jsut easier using usb headsets |
| 08:03.20 | _Vile | still need the card tho |
| 08:03.21 | wsuff | and u can even mix the 2 |
| 08:03.34 | wsuff | _Vile: not if u pay someone to host it =) |
| 08:03.44 | watchy | well i think im gonna build a pbx for my mom with asterisk |
| 08:03.48 | _Vile | then ur looking at colo costs |
| 08:03.50 | _Vile | which recur |
| 08:03.51 | _Vile | ;) |
| 08:03.51 | watchy | i just started playing with it today |
| 08:03.53 | wsuff | someone w/ linx and timing |
| 08:03.54 | wsuff | haha |
| 08:03.55 | wsuff | linux |
| 08:04.40 | _Vile | watchy, good luck... I'm about to ditch my plans of using adsi w/ *.. *may* go with 480i's |
| 08:04.48 | watchy | adsi? |
| 08:05.01 | watchy | i dunno shit about pbx or anything man i just found this software tonight |
| 08:05.02 | watchy | hah |
| 08:05.04 | wsuff | watchy: u can always hire me to fly out there and set ya up |
| 08:05.11 | watchy | wsuff: fly to arkansas? |
| 08:05.12 | _Vile | dont fall for it watchy |
| 08:05.35 | watchy | is it a waste of time to setup asterisk for my moms business? |
| 08:05.41 | _Vile | not at all |
| 08:05.47 | wsuff | yes/no |
| 08:05.49 | wsuff | depending on the biz |
| 08:05.52 | wsuff | and phone usage |
| 08:05.53 | watchy | i think it would be good for her business to have voicemail |
| 08:05.56 | wsuff | it can be a great savings |
| 08:05.59 | watchy | phone usage 24/7 pretty much dude |
| 08:06.06 | watchy | she owns a trucking company |
| 08:06.17 | watchy | so shes dispatching her drivers 24/7 |
| 08:06.32 | _Vile | watchy, expense is in a good cpu, a few good cards.. are you using pstn? or are you getting pri? |
| 08:06.43 | watchy | hrm |
| 08:06.44 | _Vile | if pstn, another expense is a channel bank |
| 08:06.57 | watchy | well right now they got like 4 or 5 normal phone lines |
| 08:07.00 | watchy | so i guess thats pstn |
| 08:07.44 | _Vile | k, yes.. when she hits 8 lines, look at a DS-1 from the telco.. currently look at a channel bank plus the ~400-500 T card for the good cpu box |
| 08:07.50 | wsuff | haha |
| 08:07.51 | _Vile | $400-500 |
| 08:07.56 | wsuff | _Vile: no need |
| 08:08.07 | wsuff | iax2 term to a location w/ pris already |
| 08:08.08 | wsuff | =) |
| 08:08.12 | wsuff | or 1 toll free did |
| 08:08.13 | wsuff | =) |
| 08:08.42 | _Vile | per min usage costs would override the cost of a one time channel bank |
| 08:08.48 | _Vile | plus colo costs |
| 08:08.56 | _Vile | plus pri costs |
| 08:09.06 | wsuff | noo if they pay per min |
| 08:09.07 | _Vile | but good solution i use it for an ivr app |
| 08:09.08 | watchy | i take it u dudes sell pbx's for a living? |
| 08:09.09 | watchy | heh |
| 08:09.15 | _Vile | no i program |
| 08:09.16 | _Vile | :) |
| 08:09.18 | wsuff | it's another person's problem |
| 08:09.22 | _Vile | and am a bookkeeper |
| 08:09.42 | watchy | would a PIII 1ghz be overkill for a asterisks server |
| 08:09.44 | _Vile | wsuff true |
| 08:09.48 | _Vile | watchy no |
| 08:09.54 | _Vile | underkill depending on the application |
| 08:10.04 | _Vile | and the traffic |
| 08:10.05 | watchy | i got a 1ghz 512megs of ram dell box doing nothin |
| 08:10.11 | wsuff | well start w/ that |
| 08:10.13 | _Vile | try it out |
| 08:10.13 | watchy | my moms phones constantly ring |
| 08:10.14 | _Vile | yeah |
| 08:10.16 | wsuff | then if it runs like shit |
| 08:10.17 | wsuff | upgrade it |
| 08:10.18 | wsuff | =) |
| 08:10.23 | _Vile | listen to wsuff |
| 08:10.27 | _Vile | except for the iax2 idea |
| 08:10.28 | _Vile | :D |
| 08:10.31 | watchy | iax2? |
| 08:10.35 | _Vile | unless u have multiple locs :D |
| 08:10.41 | watchy | just 1 location for now |
| 08:10.51 | wsuff | well there is alot to consider |
| 08:10.59 | wsuff | and it's hard for me or vile to tell ya what's best |
| 08:11.03 | *** part/#asterisk miller7 (~none@adsl49-static-gw1.access.acn.gr) |
| 08:11.04 | watchy | yea |
| 08:11.06 | wsuff | since we really don't know the situation |
| 08:11.15 | watchy | well im moving back to arkansas the 17th |
| 08:11.16 | wsuff | u really need to get the bills for what she has now |
| 08:11.21 | wsuff | and what they use |
| 08:11.27 | watchy | so once i get back ill get some help and stuff |
| 08:11.38 | wsuff | then u can see if it's a worth while savings |
| 08:11.42 | watchy | but i want my mom to have voice mail and stuff |
| 08:11.48 | wsuff | of course |
| 08:11.48 | watchy | so her company seems profesional u know |
| 08:11.56 | wsuff | but u can do asterisk w/ the pot lines she has now |
| 08:12.00 | watchy | she runs a decent sized business but deosnt have any of that |
| 08:12.05 | wsuff | or go to a more advanced level |
| 08:12.12 | wsuff | depends on $$ |
| 08:12.17 | wsuff | in the end |
| 08:12.21 | watchy | yea |
| 08:12.28 | watchy | well if i pay some bitch to do it all and sell her a pbx |
| 08:12.38 | watchy | it will be alot more $ then if i do it myself right? |
| 08:12.45 | wsuff | watchy: depends |
| 08:12.50 | watchy | on what? |
| 08:12.51 | wsuff | your time is money too |
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| 08:12.56 | watchy | im jobless |
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| 08:12.58 | wsuff | and if u haven't used asterisk |
| 08:13.03 | watchy | im moving home to help with my parents business |
| 08:13.06 | wsuff | u can spend wks on trying to do it |
| 08:13.13 | watchy | well ive been using it for 5 hours total now |
| 08:13.14 | wsuff | well fly me to PHX and i'll do the pbx for free |
| 08:13.15 | wsuff | =) |
| 08:13.24 | watchy | its arkansas haha not phx |
| 08:13.31 | watchy | but i live in phoenix now |
| 08:13.36 | *** join/#asterisk oej (~oej@apollo.webway.se) |
| 08:13.40 | wsuff | i know but all i need is ssh to a linux box to do the asterisk install |
| 08:13.41 | watchy | ill fly you to arkansas and take you fishin |
| 08:13.50 | wsuff | u can handle the onsite crap |
| 08:13.55 | watchy | yea |
| 08:14.03 | wsuff | watchy: i don't have a GF in arkansas though |
| 08:14.10 | watchy | you got one in phoenix? |
| 08:14.15 | wsuff | nod |
| 08:14.32 | watchy | well if i was stayin here id fly ya here |
| 08:14.35 | watchy | but im leaving the 17th |
| 08:14.37 | watchy | for good |
| 08:14.44 | wsuff | aww |
| 08:14.50 | watchy | no job :(] |
| 08:14.54 | wsuff | me either |
| 08:15.01 | watchy | but i think if i pick this astricks stuf up |
| 08:15.03 | wsuff | hence why i haven't flown out yet |
| 08:15.07 | watchy | imma sell phone systems in my town |
| 08:15.11 | watchy | when i move back to arkansas |
| 08:15.25 | watchy | i love learning new stuff |
| 08:19.42 | watchy | hrm |
| 08:19.46 | watchy | i loaded that zaptel driver |
| 08:19.53 | watchy | im not getting anymore time error things |
| 08:20.59 | watchy | but it wasnt constant either it would just randomly happen but it seems fine now |
| 08:28.54 | monst3r | watchy > u still here dude havent u got a home :D |
| 08:29.08 | watchy | im at home |
| 08:29.25 | monst3r | i think that flew over ur head mate :P |
| 08:29.45 | watchy | probably |
| 08:29.49 | watchy | im pretty tired |
| 08:35.31 | watchy | whats a zaptel driver |
| 08:36.58 | watchy | oops thats retarded |
| 08:37.01 | watchy | whats a zaptel? |
| 08:37.27 | _Vile | zappata telecommunications |
| 08:38.06 | watchy | a type of interface for phones and stuff? |
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| 08:41.25 | watchy | hey vile |
| 08:41.35 | watchy | where can i get one of those things to stop that timer issue |
| 08:44.41 | inspired | you need a SWATCH |
| 08:45.54 | watchy | haha |
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| 08:46.49 | _Vile | watchy |
| 08:46.51 | _Vile | ebay for fxo |
| 08:47.00 | _Vile | it looks like a modem |
| 08:47.00 | watchy | ok |
| 08:47.01 | _Vile | well |
| 08:47.03 | _Vile | it is a modem |
| 08:47.08 | watchy | cant i just use a normal modem? :( |
| 08:47.08 | _Vile | but special |
| 08:47.09 | _Vile | :) |
| 08:47.15 | _Vile | no |
| 08:47.16 | _Vile | :) |
| 08:47.27 | wsuff | watchy: only a certain chipset is supported |
| 08:47.29 | watchy | that ztdummy and zaprtc is for linux :( |
| 08:48.18 | watchy | whats fxo stand for |
| 08:48.46 | watchy | i need a digium fxo right? |
| 08:49.20 | _Vile | no you dont, but id advise buying one anyway |
| 08:49.36 | watchy | yea |
| 08:49.56 | watchy | only 1 digium on ebay |
| 08:49.56 | wsuff | digium x100p is a modem w/ special drivers for asterisk |
| 08:50.12 | watchy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.18 | watchy | thats the only digium on ebay |
| 08:50.20 | wsuff | there are clones as well but don't always work w/o problems |
| 08:50.30 | wsuff | watchy: x100p is about 100 from digium's store |
| 08:51.05 | watchy | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3309&item=5713883226&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 08:51.07 | watchy | how about that |
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| 08:52.17 | wsuff | watchy: the info is out there take some time to research to avoid buying something that won't do what u want |
| 08:52.23 | watchy | well |
| 08:52.30 | watchy | i need it for a freebsd box |
| 08:52.36 | watchy | thats not gonna be connected to the phone line |
| 08:52.44 | watchy | its to replace our ventrilo box haha |
| 08:52.50 | _Vile | watchy, my best advice is to use asterisk on redhat linux |
| 08:52.55 | _Vile | you will experience less issues |
| 08:52.58 | watchy | well |
| 08:52.58 | wsuff | cheapest too |
| 08:53.13 | watchy | this box is fbsd 5 and already installed :( |
| 08:53.17 | _Vile | so |
| 08:53.21 | _Vile | reinstall |
| 08:53.23 | _Vile | :) |
| 08:53.23 | wsuff | pull the hd |
| 08:53.24 | watchy | i just need to get rid of that timer issue |
| 08:53.25 | wsuff | and get another |
| 08:53.27 | wsuff | =) |
| 08:53.29 | watchy | im anti linux |
| 08:53.30 | watchy | :( |
| 08:53.34 | wsuff | watchy: so am i |
| 08:53.43 | wsuff | but asterisk is not nearly as progressed on bsd as linux |
| 08:53.46 | watchy | but i guess asterisk is linux shit for now |
| 08:53.48 | _Vile | me too.. watchy, you will experience more issues than you think |
| 08:53.49 | wsuff | so if u want to run asterisk properly |
| 08:53.57 | _Vile | i run openbsd |
| 08:53.58 | wsuff | it is adviced |
| 08:53.59 | _Vile | and freebsd |
| 08:54.00 | watchy | if i had a linux box |
| 08:54.04 | watchy | i guess i could use ztdummy |
| 08:54.05 | _Vile | and only use linux for rh |
| 08:54.05 | wsuff | not to rely on the bsd port |
| 08:54.09 | watchy | instead of buying a car |
| 08:54.10 | _Vile | s/rh/asterisk |
| 08:54.11 | wsuff | watchy: yup u could |
| 08:54.20 | watchy | cuz i just need to get rid of that timing issue |
| 08:54.27 | watchy | i dont really need a freakin fxo |
| 08:54.33 | wsuff | watchy: that's the only issue u see of yet |
| 08:54.38 | _Vile | watchy |
| 08:54.39 | watchy | yea im sure ill see more |
| 08:54.40 | wsuff | others will appear as u use it |
| 08:54.51 | watchy | imma just setup another box |
| 08:54.54 | _Vile | the timing issue is the fxo card, as far as ztdummy, i've never heard of it |
| 08:55.05 | _Vile | but bsd + asterisk = probs, I know that |
| 08:55.09 | wsuff | well occured in the past |
| 08:55.09 | watchy | ztdummy is a fake driver vile |