| 00:04.41 | twisted | yay |
| 00:04.42 | twisted | new toys |
| 00:04.55 | dedd | what did u get twisted |
| 00:05.08 | twisted | bug id 2208 |
| 00:05.12 | twisted | new toy |
| 00:05.15 | twisted | to you ppl |
| 00:05.16 | twisted | by me |
| 00:05.25 | twisted | ability to make app_directory() read first or last names |
| 00:05.32 | twisted | simple flag in the dialplan :) |
| 00:06.40 | dedd | nice |
| 00:06.53 | dedd | haven't used app_directory yet but nice addtions |
| 00:06.55 | twisted | simple patch, too. |
| 00:07.15 | dedd | simplest things in life are some of the best |
| 00:07.22 | twisted | true |
| 00:07.43 | jero | can I plug asterisk on my ldap server ? |
| 00:08.22 | pfn | plug? |
| 00:08.28 | jero | link |
| 00:08.41 | jero | for defining sip accounts f.e |
| 00:08.58 | pfn | there's nothing currently written to do it I'm sure |
| 00:09.00 | jero | because some phones do names lookup in ldap |
| 00:09.07 | jero | right ? |
| 00:09.15 | pfn | I don't know if any phones do ldap lookups |
| 00:09.28 | pfn | but asterisk is open source, you can write a way to connect to ldap :p |
| 00:09.36 | jero | good idea |
| 00:09.59 | jero | i'll start tonight |
| 00:10.16 | jero | ;) |
| 00:10.59 | jero | argh my T68i just died |
| 00:12.29 | ^ClaSsY | jero ; how? |
| 00:12.50 | jero | no idea, i received a call, it was ringing but I was unable to get the call |
| 00:13.04 | jero | then it was frozen, I unplugged the battery, now nothing |
| 00:14.21 | jero | its evil |
| 00:14.31 | ^ClaSsY | ah |
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| 00:15.41 | pfn | asides from looking good, the t68i doesn't have much going for it |
| 00:16.02 | jero | it was full featured |
| 00:16.05 | jero | really |
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| 00:16.54 | Blade` | anyone know how to dial international, currently using nufone |
| 00:17.17 | jero | gprs, bluetooth, pop+imap clients, great directory, amazing camera module, mine was 3 years old |
| 00:18.49 | jero | confirmation : cisco phones do lookup numbers/names in a ldap directory |
| 00:19.07 | jero | function name : corporate directory |
| 00:19.45 | jero | same for Snom |
| 00:21.21 | pfn | blade 011. |
| 00:21.30 | pfn | blade but your account has to be enabled for international dialing |
| 00:21.51 | pfn | jero slow and buggy |
| 00:21.54 | pfn | despite the great feature set |
| 00:22.35 | jero | what is buggy / |
| 00:22.36 | jero | ? |
| 00:22.42 | jero | oh you mean the phone |
| 00:23.14 | jero | slow yes, buggy not too much |
| 00:26.25 | DarkFlib | so how do you request that it be enabled? |
| 00:27.10 | ^ClaSsY | is there any way , in * , that an admin can listen/ record an ongoing call? |
| 00:27.46 | pfn | you can do it with zapbarge |
| 00:27.50 | pfn | for zap channels |
| 00:27.59 | pfn | can't for sip/iax |
| 00:28.03 | ^ClaSsY | pfn , i need it for zap channels, is there any info on it? |
| 00:28.14 | pfn | wiki |
| 00:29.14 | litnimax | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+zapata.conf |
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| 00:30.39 | ^ClaSsY | thanks |
| 00:30.44 | ^ClaSsY | http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20cmd%20ZapBarge |
| 00:30.46 | ^ClaSsY | this is cool |
| 00:31.05 | litnimax | URW |
| 00:31.58 | ^ClaSsY | another question : is there any operater panel / flash panel for asterisk? |
| 00:32.06 | pfn | you mean dss/blf? no |
| 00:32.51 | ^ClaSsY | i need something like operator panel for patching calls |
| 00:33.18 | ^ClaSsY | all incoming channels -> operator -> some front end for transfering calls to anyone on extensions |
| 00:33.43 | pfn | not in the traditional sense, no |
| 00:34.28 | ^ClaSsY | i've heard of a panel made in flash ... will that do this feature to some extent? |
| 00:35.27 | gpled | iv been looking over docs, but missing the minimum hardware requirements to run astrisk. how much: cpu, ram, hd space, do i need to setup asterisk? |
| 00:35.37 | pfn | it depends on what you're doing |
| 00:36.33 | litnimax | gpled: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+setup+success+4 |
| 00:36.55 | jero | can Asterisk do Realtime, Store&Forward or Both FAX modes ? |
| 00:37.32 | pfn | huh? |
| 00:38.00 | jero | the fax is stored on the hard drive then the user gets it on a fax > s&f |
| 00:38.16 | litnimax | jero: yes, http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+and+faxes |
| 00:38.17 | jero | the fax is realtime-transmitted to the according fax > realtime |
| 00:38.27 | pfn | that's not english |
| 00:38.33 | Corydon76-home | You barely need more than 233/64/4GB for a minimal system |
| 00:38.46 | pfn | I bet you could squeeze it under a gig |
| 00:38.49 | pfn | hell, under 100mb |
| 00:39.03 | jero | this was an itemized list :) |
| 00:39.07 | Corydon76-home | pfn: let's be realistic |
| 00:39.13 | pfn | realistic? that is |
| 00:39.17 | pfn | if you don't need voicemail |
| 00:39.21 | pfn | you could easily do it under 100mb |
| 00:39.25 | pfn | no voicemail or monitoring |
| 00:39.26 | litnimax | jero: BUT ! the most reliable way is to save fax, ftp/mail it on ather * box in other region, and there send directly (i am completing now such a project) |
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| 00:39.35 | pfn | or hell, if you do, do it with wav49 and you'll still have plenty of room |
| 00:39.35 | Corydon76-home | You'll spend more time cramming the base OS into 100mb |
| 00:39.49 | pfn | corydon people do it all the time |
| 00:39.49 | ^ClaSsY | you dont even need that , get a asterisk bootable cd :D |
| 00:39.52 | pfn | my firewall is 20mb :p |
| 00:40.01 | pfn | hand-picked list of files |
| 00:40.02 | jero | my firewall is 4mb |
| 00:40.09 | Corydon76-home | Besides, how many people here have a 100mb or less hard drive that still works? |
| 00:40.10 | pfn | jero but mine is more fully featured :p |
| 00:40.24 | pfn | my firewall is a p3-1200mhz running a 16mb cf card |
| 00:40.31 | jero | i have no doubt it is :) i have everything i need btw |
| 00:40.31 | pfn | way overkill |
| 00:40.38 | pfn | jero you have tcpdump? |
| 00:40.56 | Corydon76-home | pfn: you're insane if you try to run a development system on that little disk space |
| 00:40.56 | pfn | you have iptraf? |
| 00:41.04 | jero | of course |
| 00:41.10 | ^ClaSsY | lol |
| 00:41.11 | pfn | corydon used to back before the explosion of these huge drives |
| 00:41.13 | jero | iptraf no, everything is web-based |
| 00:41.13 | Corydon76-home | Besides, you're being pedantic |
| 00:41.25 | pfn | the question is minimal hardware |
| 00:41.28 | pfn | and it can easily be done |
| 00:41.29 | ^ClaSsY | jero: what distro do u use? |
| 00:41.40 | jero | it runs a custom freebsd on a soekris board |
| 00:42.00 | jero | with a 8mb compact flash |
| 00:42.02 | pfn | bah, web based, screw that :p |
| 00:42.07 | jero | no fan, no disk |
| 00:42.21 | jero | as big as a cd jewel case |
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| 00:42.23 | pfn | my firewall has a fan... stupid power supply |
| 00:42.30 | pfn | I need to get a wrap board |
| 00:42.39 | jero | www.soekris.com |
| 00:42.44 | pfn | soekris is too expensive |
| 00:42.49 | jero | :) |
| 00:42.50 | pfn | wrap board costs half as much including an enclosure |
| 00:42.57 | jero | www.linksys.com |
| 00:42.57 | Corydon76-home | Or wait... I betcha pfn runs his firewall on a Commodore 64 with 32k of RAM |
| 00:43.01 | atacomm | soekris is expensive, we bought a demo board from them |
| 00:43.06 | jero | Corydon LOL |
| 00:43.15 | pfn | wrap board is $140 for 3port LAN + mini-pci |
| 00:43.20 | pfn | soekris equivalent is like $250 |
| 00:43.27 | gpled | litnimax: thanks for the url |
| 00:43.31 | jero | linksys is < $100 |
| 00:43.35 | litnimax | gpled: URW |
| 00:43.38 | pfn | linksys sucks |
| 00:43.38 | pfn | :p |
| 00:43.41 | atacomm | so, i keep looking into these guys's trademark claim against us...... if Atacomm infringes on @COMM, then why does Atcom have a trademark? *scratches head* |
| 00:43.54 | jero | depends on what its running :) |
| 00:44.03 | jero | my linksys runs asterisk |
| 00:44.14 | jero | </joke> |
| 00:44.24 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: because that other company has more money and can defend itself |
| 00:44.39 | pfn | actually, I guess the soekris net4501 is only $20 more than the wrap board |
| 00:44.41 | atacomm | probably...... what do you think i should do? |
| 00:44.57 | pfn | change your legal name to atacomm |
| 00:44.58 | atacomm | net4501? oh, we used the 4801 |
| 00:44.59 | pfn | ;-) |
| 00:45.04 | atacomm | pfn: LOL, thought about that |
| 00:45.17 | Corydon76-home | I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not about to give you advice on this |
| 00:45.41 | atacomm | other than hope the old cranky CEO over there gets a heart attack |
| 00:45.55 | gpled | anyone hooking asterisk to a toshiba strata key system? |
| 00:45.58 | atacomm | anyone here ever hear of @COMM? they do call accounting software and hardware |
| 00:46.00 | jero | is there a buffering delay on sip ? |
| 00:46.06 | pfn | $157 for the wrap 1d-2 |
| 00:46.12 | pfn | 3lan, 1 minipci, 128mb ram |
| 00:46.23 | Corydon76-home | Nah, their CEO probably has nothing to do with it... probably just a corporate lawyer who was told to justify his position or be fired |
| 00:46.24 | pfn | I'd run a firewall on that, mmmmm |
| 00:46.45 | atacomm | Corydon: Um, actually last november their CEO called me direct and was a complete ass to me |
| 00:47.02 | jero | nice |
| 00:47.03 | atacomm | Corydon: like just because a domain name was available doesnt mean you can use it, and i demand you stop using it now |
| 00:47.04 | Corydon76-home | If you can afford it, countersue |
| 00:47.06 | pfn | the soekris net4801 is about equivalent |
| 00:47.42 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: What's the forum? |
| 00:47.49 | pfn | I guess net4801 has a pci slot |
| 00:48.20 | atacomm | we've used the name for 4 years, they've used it for 5 years.... but of course @Comm is the trademark, not Atcomm, so it makes it hard to say Atacomm is overlapping |
| 00:48.27 | atacomm | Corydon: What do you mean? |
| 00:48.55 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: state court, federal court, WIPO arbitrator? |
| 00:49.38 | atacomm | so far just a cease and desist that I received today.... saying they are aware that we have filed for a trademark on ATACOMM and that they are going to fight it, and saying that we need to cease operation under the name Atacomm immediately |
| 00:50.02 | jero | bbl |
| 00:50.15 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: find another company that has been around longer and make them aware of @comm's actions |
| 00:50.29 | atacomm | Atcom had their trademark first i beleive |
| 00:50.43 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: and get yourself a lawyer to get yourself real legal advice |
| 00:50.54 | pfn | atacomm already has a lawyer, heh..... |
| 00:51.22 | atacomm | Atcom was issued their trademark 2 months before @COMM applied for theirs |
| 00:51.57 | litnimax | i need 8 PCs with redhat 9 installed |
| 00:51.58 | Corydon76-home | A well-placed call to Atcom may do wonders |
| 00:52.07 | litnimax | sorry |
| 00:52.10 | atacomm | lol, like get me hit with another suit? |
| 00:52.23 | *** part/#asterisk gpled (~sam@66-178-146-105.dsl.rio.com) |
| 00:52.34 | Corydon76-home | No, don't tell them who you are, just make them aware of @comm |
| 00:52.46 | Corydon76-home | as a "concerned citizen" |
| 00:53.12 | pfn | I'm curious what they'd do, though |
| 00:53.31 | pfn | except for being a very good person, I don't see them bothering to do anything, as it takes money to sic lawyers on someone |
| 00:53.42 | pfn | and doing this won't make them any money.... |
| 00:53.55 | atacomm | atcombts.com |
| 00:54.17 | Corydon76-home | No, but if they're made aware that @comm are sue-happy, then that could do major damage to Atcom's good name |
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| 00:54.36 | atacomm | LOL, but Atacomm and Atcom are Polycom authorized vendors |
| 00:54.43 | atacomm | who would have thunk it |
| 00:54.53 | chuji | hmmm, so why set us up for news (topic) and not release it? |
| 00:54.58 | chuji | :P |
| 00:55.11 | chuji | Or did I miss it? |
| 00:55.12 | Corydon76-home | And as a concerned citizen and Atcom customer, you're concerned for their good name |
| 00:55.46 | atacomm | how do i tell them that @COMM is suing Atacomm without bringing my name to their attention? |
| 00:55.54 | nisbo | is anyone here good with asterisk and isdn? |
| 00:55.55 | Corydon76-home | chuji: I'm not even on the -Users list, so... |
| 00:56.17 | trelane | atacomm, insane :) |
| 00:56.18 | pfn | indeed, what's the news |
| 00:56.18 | atacomm | i mean god, the only thing i can see thats bad about this whole thing is @COMM gets my customers if they leave an a out while typing my domain name..... |
| 00:56.26 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: be creative. Are you the first company they've sued? |
| 00:56.40 | atacomm | I dont know, wouldnt know where to look |
| 00:56.41 | trelane | atacomm, try to find a prior use of the @comm name |
| 00:56.47 | trelane | before they trademarked it |
| 00:56.53 | trelane | trademarks only set a beginning of use date |
| 00:56.59 | trelane | if someone was using it at that time the trademark is void |
| 00:57.03 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: suits filed are public record |
| 00:57.08 | trelane | indeed |
| 00:57.10 | trelane | as are trademarks |
| 00:57.21 | trelane | which gives you a DATE where they claim they started using the @COMM name |
| 00:57.31 | atacomm | and there are like 5 ATCOMMs listed in D&B, but only 1 ATACOMM |
| 00:57.49 | trelane | atacomm, figure out which one was started first |
| 00:57.52 | trelane | if it's not the one sueing you |
| 00:57.59 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: Do your and @COMM's markets overlap? |
| 00:58.03 | trelane | you already have "prior use" on the trademark |
| 00:58.16 | trelane | sue for fees and costs for frivilous lawsuits |
| 00:58.23 | trelane | hell maybe you can take the @comm name too :) |
| 00:58.45 | atacomm | Corydon: @COMM makes and sells call cost accounting software and hardware for call centers & hotels |
| 00:59.03 | trelane | atacomm, what does atacomm do? |
| 00:59.19 | atacomm | atacomm is a distributor of voice over IP telephony products |
| 00:59.20 | Corydon76-home | atacomm: I meant geographically |
| 00:59.33 | trelane | Corydon76-home, doesn't matter :) |
| 00:59.35 | trelane | or shouldn't |
| 00:59.37 | trelane | not anymore at least |
| 00:59.38 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, I don't think your markets overlap |
| 00:59.40 | atacomm | Corydon: *shrug* we sell nation wide, i dunno |
| 01:00.04 | trelane | atacomm: you are atacomm I assume? |
| 01:00.05 | Corydon76-home | voip vs call center software |
| 01:00.14 | atacomm | trelane: yes |
| 01:00.25 | trelane | Corydon76-home, I think that's sufficiently close ie telecoms |
| 01:00.36 | atacomm | actually, i've seen @COMM employees working on Asterisk documentation projects before |
| 01:00.38 | trelane | but I doubt with six or seven companies doing business as atcomm |
| 01:00.52 | Corydon76-home | trelane: if he can establish that they're two different niches, he'll have a chance on the merits |
| 01:00.52 | trelane | atacomm, you're in the same industry |
| 01:00.57 | trelane | or at least the court would find that way |
| 01:00.57 | trelane | nope |
| 01:00.58 | trelane | telecoms |
| 01:01.03 | trelane | I think he'd be splitting hairs on that one |
| 01:01.25 | Corydon76-home | Well, good luck, anyway |
| 01:01.29 | trelane | I'm doing some research |
| 01:01.31 | atacomm | heh |
| 01:01.34 | trelane | give me a moment please :) |
| 01:04.48 | pfn | it still boils down to needing a lawyer |
| 01:05.52 | chuji | atacomm: What's an * guy doing running his site on IIS? |
| 01:05.55 | chuji | :) |
| 01:06.06 | atacomm | lol, its all .net based |
| 01:06.11 | chuji | I see that |
| 01:06.11 | pfn | iis? eww |
| 01:06.17 | chuji | C# I hope |
| 01:06.20 | atacomm | yup |
| 01:06.25 | chuji | We'll excuse you thne |
| 01:06.32 | pfn | what excuse is that? |
| 01:06.35 | dedd | haha |
| 01:06.35 | pfn | :p |
| 01:06.49 | chuji | It's just java for dummies |
| 01:06.57 | atacomm | na, i like it over java |
| 01:07.10 | atacomm | and i've done C, x86 asm, etc, so i'm no dummy |
| 01:07.37 | chuji | Most of our development at my company is done in dot net |
| 01:07.42 | chuji | I'm just giving you a hard time |
| 01:07.44 | pfn | ewww |
| 01:07.50 | pfn | I don't think we have an iota of .net going on here |
| 01:07.51 | pfn | heh |
| 01:07.58 | chuji | I knew I'd get a response from pfn about it too |
| 01:08.08 | chuji | :P |
| 01:08.20 | pfn | development here includes a whole lot of shit |
| 01:08.20 | pfn | heh |
| 01:08.39 | pfn | java, c++, smalltalk, linux stuffs, rdbms, etc. |
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| 01:11.05 | mr_monkey | hello i-ve got a question about network performance tools and the simulation of 10 ten calls at the same time, do you know any tool to measure performance of VoIP ? |
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| 01:16.02 | litnimax | mr_monkey: SIP tools |
| 01:16.02 | litnimax | Callflow: Generates SIP Call Flow diagrams |
| 01:16.02 | litnimax | SIPbomber: SIP proxy testing tool |
| 01:16.02 | litnimax | Sipp: SIP performance tester |
| 01:16.02 | litnimax | Sipsak: SIP testing tool |
| 01:16.02 | litnimax | Vovida.org load balancer: SIP Load Balancer |
| 01:16.04 | litnimax | PROTOS Test-Suite: SIP Testing tools |
| 01:16.11 | litnimax | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Open%20Source%20VOIP%20Software |
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| 01:18.05 | cursor | zzzz |
| 01:18.32 | mr_monkey | ok |
| 01:18.37 | Damin | Anyone used a VegaStream w/ Asterisk? |
| 01:18.44 | mr_monkey | there is something for IAX2 ? |
| 01:18.51 | cursor | not me |
| 01:19.17 | Damin | It's a SIP gateway.. |
| 01:19.31 | cursor | ok, then it should work |
| 01:19.34 | dedd | mr_monkey: u can the outgoing call files to generate calls to a nd from the system |
| 01:19.44 | dedd | cursor: yummy |
| 01:19.49 | litnimax | mr_monkey: use .call files. Just place a hundred of files and see what will be |
| 01:19.53 | cursor | bah! |
| 01:19.58 | cursor | I should switch that off :-) |
| 01:20.01 | dedd | monkey |
| 01:20.04 | dedd | haha |
| 01:20.05 | cursor | It doesn't get tripped that often |
| 01:20.10 | cursor | I have loads of those |
| 01:20.19 | cursor | say monkeys |
| 01:20.21 | cursor | or banana |
| 01:20.25 | derrick | red-butted monkey-love |
| 01:20.40 | derrick | man, i used to have tons of those... |
| 01:21.00 | cursor | It should be off now |
| 01:21.09 | cursor | in theory |
| 01:21.43 | dedd | monkey |
| 01:21.52 | dedd | no banana waaa |
| 01:22.03 | cursor | nope, "monkey" is off |
| 01:22.05 | dedd | =) |
| 01:22.11 | cursor | banana is still on :-) |
| 01:23.44 | cursor | So, what's the topic this hour then? |
| 01:24.04 | chuji | paypal chuji $50 |
| 01:24.21 | cursor | ah |
| 01:24.27 | chuji | cursor: You must have just got here, everyome else has done it |
| 01:24.56 | chuji | oh yeah, forgot you were in UK :P |
| 01:25.02 | cursor | :-) |
| 01:25.07 | chuji | should have done the conversion for you |
| 01:25.40 | cursor | I think George Dubbya's managed to achieve a USD:GBP exchange rate record |
| 01:26.42 | cursor | With the current exchange rate, I could probably move to the USA as a multi-millionaire |
| 01:26.46 | cursor | :-) |
| 01:29.08 | twisted | weell |
| 01:29.11 | twisted | when you do |
| 01:29.21 | twisted | you can buy me a new car and some rack space |
| 01:29.30 | twisted | :P |
| 01:29.44 | dedd | 1 mil USD is only 547,855.03 GBP |
| 01:30.08 | epoch | haha, "only" |
| 01:30.31 | twisted | derrick, the exchange rate is that high to keep us out |
| 01:30.32 | twisted | ;) |
| 01:30.33 | cursor | I wouldn't get out of bed for £547,855.03 |
| 01:30.34 | cursor | :-) |
| 01:30.35 | derrick | ;) |
| 01:30.37 | dedd | derrick: i thought u are in the TX slave labor camp for lfie now |
| 01:30.49 | derrick | not for life....leaving the country is my best option tho |
| 01:30.52 | twisted | anywho |
| 01:30.56 | twisted | let's get back on topic |
| 01:30.57 | derrick | i'll move to mexico and be king |
| 01:31.08 | IBM1620 | is everyone receiving the Asterisk mail list, or is it broken at my end? |
| 01:31.10 | derrick | topic being registering w/ nickserv? |
| 01:31.10 | dedd | 300 MXN is like 20 bucks |
| 01:31.15 | twisted | IBM1620, it's just slow right now |
| 01:31.17 | cursor | The mail list works for me |
| 01:31.38 | IBM1620 | my IP changed over the weekend--would they have the old address? |
| 01:31.44 | cursor | The last users' article was dated 12 mins ago |
| 01:31.59 | cursor | and just arrived in a batch of 6 |
| 01:32.05 | twisted | IBM1620, uh, unless you're doing dynamic dns and hosting your own mailserver, no. |
| 01:32.09 | cursor | one dated over 2 hours ago |
| 01:32.35 | IBM1620 | yes, dhcp and own mail server--will get my static IP on Wednesday |
| 01:32.45 | twisted | no |
| 01:32.48 | twisted | dynamic DNS |
| 01:33.01 | twisted | unless your MX was/is pointed at the wrong IP |
| 01:33.05 | *** join/#asterisk HiTech69 (~hitech@34-29.202-68.tampabay.rr.com) |
| 01:33.15 | IBM1620 | no. MX is ok |
| 01:33.36 | IBM1620 | i've gotten about six messages today, normal is hundreds |
| 01:33.41 | twisted | yeah |
| 01:33.45 | twisted | it's kinda slow today |
| 01:34.11 | twisted | but not THAT slow |
| 01:34.22 | *** part/#asterisk mr_monkey (~farfan@201.128.119.226) |
| 01:36.48 | IBM1620 | Qwest wouldn't give me a static IP until after the DSL was installed |
| 01:37.02 | IBM1620 | and running |
| 01:37.34 | twisted | qwest is funny like tha.t |
| 01:41.38 | pfn | so where's kram's announcement? |
| 01:41.40 | pfn | 1.0 is out? |
| 01:41.45 | pfn | or what is, rather |
| 01:42.01 | twisted | well, we *THOUGHT* he was going to make a special announcement last night |
| 01:42.07 | twisted | but apparently, he's delayed |
| 01:42.42 | pfn | *what* is the special announcement |
| 01:42.50 | pfn | I don't see anything special going out to users, except for 1.0 |
| 01:44.40 | *** join/#asterisk [FoLkS] (~isianto@202.149.85.50) |
| 01:46.48 | cursor | Free T-Shirt |
| 01:46.58 | cursor | Free beer :-) |
| 01:47.24 | twisted | i cannot tell you the contents of said announcement |
| 01:47.41 | twisted | for i haff been sworn to secrecy |
| 01:47.47 | cursor | right |
| 01:47.51 | twisted | no |
| 01:47.52 | twisted | seriously |
| 01:47.53 | twisted | ask bkw |
| 01:47.56 | twisted | he was there too |
| 01:48.02 | cursor | ok |
| 01:48.05 | cursor | I believe you |
| 01:48.09 | cursor | thousands wouldn't |
| 01:48.09 | twisted | heh |
| 01:48.10 | cursor | :-) |
| 01:48.16 | *** join/#asterisk jero (boo@modemcable055.101-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 01:48.22 | cursor | I still think it's free beer |
| 01:48.38 | cursor | and you want to drink as much of it before the announcement |
| 01:48.39 | cursor | :-) |
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| 01:51.22 | twisted | cursor, have you filed a disclaimer? |
| 01:51.27 | cursor | no |
| 01:51.39 | twisted | when can/will you? |
| 01:51.46 | cursor | I can't |
| 01:51.49 | cursor | but that's ok |
| 01:51.57 | chuji | He works for SCO |
| 01:51.59 | cursor | I've been asked to just not post patches |
| 01:51.59 | suma | twisted: is your typing power is too high, i could see your nick the whole window |
| 01:52.10 | twisted | huh? |
| 01:55.58 | pfn | heh |
| 01:56.08 | pfn | means you've been typing too much :p |
| 01:56.21 | cursor | brb |
| 01:56.33 | pfn | so tell kram to hurry and make the announcement already |
| 01:56.35 | pfn | :p |
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| 01:58.02 | gambolputty | announcement? |
| 02:01.58 | chuji | gambolputty: /topic |
| 02:02.44 | dedd | hmm |
| 02:02.50 | pfn | yeah, but what's the announcement |
| 02:04.52 | *** join/#asterisk constfilin (~cf@204.147.182.37) |
| 02:06.00 | constfilin | greetings, I have submitted several bugfixes to * CVS - like sending HTML emails for voicemail. What do I do to have them put in CVS? |
| 02:06.12 | cursor | ack |
| 02:06.16 | cursor | HTML emails |
| 02:06.21 | cursor | No nonononon no no no |
| 02:06.30 | cursor | noooooo |
| 02:06.35 | cursor | Did I mention nooooo |
| 02:06.36 | cursor | :-) |
| 02:06.41 | constfilin | :) |
| 02:06.44 | *** part/#asterisk mrmags (~stryfe@ool-4351b9f0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:06.51 | constfilin | what is so bad about them? |
| 02:07.03 | Legend` | emails should not be HTML |
| 02:07.07 | Legend` | it is the 11th commandment |
| 02:07.14 | cursor | No, it's the first |
| 02:07.26 | cursor | it got erased when the muppet dropped the tablet |
| 02:07.33 | Legend` | oic |
| 02:07.46 | twisted | constfilin, if you put them on the tracker, that's the correct avenue. |
| 02:07.48 | chuji | how am I supposed to read them in pine? |
| 02:08.04 | constfilin | it is already on the tracker for about a month. Check out http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002055 |
| 02:08.24 | constfilin | Actually, these are not "just HTML" messages. These are " |
| 02:08.54 | cursor | It'll be seen as a feature "enhancement", so it won't be looked into until later |
| 02:08.59 | cursor | Probably after 1.0 |
| 02:09.02 | constfilin | alternative" messages. That is both text/plain and text/html are sent. The E-mail client can choose which part it is going to present to the user. |
| 02:09.30 | cursor | Yes, but both are transmitted, wasting bandwidth |
| 02:09.49 | cursor | and a lot of email clients don't give you the choice - they just display the HTML |
| 02:10.18 | twisted | constfilin, didn't you read the subject that has been changed? |
| 02:10.22 | cursor | and HTML emails on mail lists clutter up the digest and archives (not relevent here, of course) |
| 02:10.27 | twisted | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.33 | twisted | it's been flagged for post-1.0 release review |
| 02:10.34 | constfilin | well, they were certainly needed for the service we are doing and so I hoped that someone else might find it useful. |
| 02:11.23 | chuji | constfilin: We're just giving you a hard time, thanks for contributing! |
| 02:11.24 | cursor | Did you include a html=yes parameter into voicemail.conf? |
| 02:11.33 | cursor | or individually for the recepients? |
| 02:11.59 | constfilin | cursor: both plain/text and plain/html parts are configurable by means of voicemail.conf. |
| 02:12.13 | cursor | ok |
| 02:12.13 | constfilin | You can aslo omit any of them. |
| 02:12.35 | cursor | I don't email VM anyway, so I don't really care :-) |
| 02:12.55 | cursor | Someone else will decide its fate |
| 02:13.12 | constfilin | no, it is not per indivuidual recipients. It is voicemail.conf-wide configuration setting. |
| 02:13.26 | cursor | ok |
| 02:13.40 | cursor | perhaps you should do both |
| 02:13.45 | cursor | a master setting |
| 02:13.49 | cursor | and a user override |
| 02:13.52 | constfilin | all I care about that my submissions are in the right place and in the right shape and sooner or later I will see them in CVS. |
| 02:14.05 | cursor | Your patches are in the right place |
| 02:14.06 | constfilin | preferably sooner |
| 02:15.11 | constfilin | okie-dokie |
| 02:15.20 | cursor | Two of my six bug tracker patches are in CVS, and a couple of patches posted to the mail list (before I was pointed to the tracker) |
| 02:15.37 | twisted | hel |
| 02:15.39 | twisted | yeah |
| 02:15.46 | twisted | i've got several patches from the bugtracker in too |
| 02:16.45 | dedd | constfilin: gotta control what's included though since you don't want to change too much at once |
| 02:17.17 | cursor | Non-essentials will have to wait until post-1.0 |
| 02:17.20 | constfilin | dedd: ok, thanks for the tip :) |
| 02:17.42 | cursor | Although I haven't seen a code freeze request |
| 02:17.47 | cursor | Perhaps that's the announcement |
| 02:18.06 | dedd | cursor: speculating is bad |
| 02:19.14 | dedd | ok |
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| 02:21.48 | *** join/#asterisk Vulture- (~Vulture@adsl-154-198-92.jax.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:21.54 | cursor | Reading the bug notes on that HTML report... |
| 02:21.55 | cursor | Please read the instructions on the front page... You need to add a "cvs diff -u" output of the changes to app_voicemail.c to this bug report. |
| 02:22.04 | cursor | where does it specify diff -u on the "front page"? |
| 02:22.21 | cursor | I got tripped by that one when I posted a standard diff -c |
| 02:22.32 | cursor | I thought the person asking for a -u was joking |
| 02:23.45 | ariel_ | Is there any bug master here? I would like to know if you can close bug 2114 for me. |
| 02:24.20 | constfilin | cursor: actually all m patches come in "cvs diff -u" format. |
| 02:24.51 | cursor | I have "diff -c" in my .cvsrc file |
| 02:25.03 | cursor | luckily, I can override with cvs diff -u |
| 02:25.12 | cursor | which actuallu does a diff -c -u |
| 02:25.21 | cursor | and luckily warns and uses the second arg |
| 02:27.21 | *** join/#asterisk sneak (~sneak@198.22.65.197) |
| 02:27.57 | cursor | Who's that sneaking in |
| 02:27.59 | cursor | I see you |
| 02:28.04 | cursor | :-) |
| 02:28.58 | ariel_ | Hope everyone is well. It's been a long day. |
| 02:29.10 | twisted | hi ariel_ |
| 02:29.15 | cursor | I like to keep my days to a standard 24 hours |
| 02:29.16 | pfn | diff -c is ugly :p |
| 02:29.18 | twisted | 2214? |
| 02:29.19 | pfn | diff -u all the way |
| 02:29.22 | twisted | err |
| 02:29.23 | twisted | 2114? |
| 02:29.26 | ariel_ | twisted, hello bug 2114 |
| 02:29.28 | sneak | heh |
| 02:29.29 | cursor | Any longer and my clock crashes |
| 02:29.31 | pfn | and when are those 2 irking bugs in voicemail gonna be fixed? |
| 02:29.32 | *** join/#asterisk Halog3n (~Halo@209.159.235.241) |
| 02:29.40 | sneak | i have iax2 over wifi across the detroit river working |
| 02:29.41 | pfn | the press 3 for advanced options |
| 02:29.43 | sneak | <- suprised |
| 02:29.49 | ariel_ | 2114 got resolved by upgradeing firmware on adtran 750's. |
| 02:29.56 | twisted | 2114 has been resolved... |
| 02:29.56 | pfn | and not sending out a vm notification when the vm is empty |
| 02:30.13 | Halog3n | someone had mentioned some good windows voip software, like x-wine or something, I forget what they had said |
| 02:30.34 | pfn | x-lite |
| 02:30.35 | ariel_ | twisted, yes it was not really a problem with asterisk but with the adtran unit's getting the fxs signal. |
| 02:30.53 | twisted | ariel_, no, it's been resolved in the tracker |
| 02:30.54 | cursor | Set the silence length and max message length to surpress empty VMs |
| 02:30.55 | twisted | Alric did it |
| 02:31.05 | Alric | Yeah, done. |
| 02:31.08 | ariel_ | twisted, yes he just pm me with it. Thanks. |
| 02:31.33 | cursor | Should it be "resolved"? Isn't there a "cancelled"? |
| 02:31.34 | ariel_ | I don't like seen bugs... But with marks help we found a fix... |
| 02:32.14 | twisted | Alric, read my reason for re-open/close |
| 02:32.20 | twisted | Alric, just an FYI |
| 02:32.26 | ariel_ | cursor, we should make notes somewhere that we need to upgrade the firmware. |
| 02:32.28 | Halog3n | no one has any clue what that would be eh? |
| 02:32.32 | Alric | Yeah |
| 02:33.20 | cursor | right |
| 02:33.59 | cursor | I was just questioning the closure status |
| 02:34.17 | cursor | I see twisted has changed it to "closed" instead |
| 02:34.49 | ariel_ | twisted, and Alric thank you for help. |
| 02:35.02 | twisted | np |
| 02:35.13 | Alric | Another one bites the dust... |
| 02:35.49 | jero | lol |
| 02:37.23 | cursor | This message probably won't change while you're staring at it. |
| 02:37.58 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~jj@mail.nufone.net) |
| 02:38.30 | cursor | mobile? |
| 02:38.33 | JerJer[mobile] | hell yeah |
| 02:38.47 | JerJer[mobile] | gprs for the moment, soon wi-fi |
| 02:38.56 | cursor | Via mail.nufone.net? |
| 02:39.02 | JerJer[mobile] | ssh lamer |
| 02:39.06 | cursor | ah |
| 02:39.13 | JerJer[mobile] | i only have text mode linux fired up |
| 02:39.14 | cursor | Which IRC client? |
| 02:39.16 | JerJer[mobile] | ninja |
| 02:39.21 | cursor | oh |
| 02:39.25 | cursor | I used to use ircII |
| 02:40.24 | JerJer[mobile] | so anyone mention the latest bitchout about NuFone? |
| 02:40.35 | cursor | where was that? |
| 02:40.38 | JerJer[mobile] | voxilla |
| 02:40.41 | cursor | oh |
| 02:40.45 | cursor | I don't read that |
| 02:40.55 | cursor | I thought I'd missed something on the mail list |
| 02:41.07 | dedd | http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10935301~mode=flat |
| 02:41.11 | dedd | only 1 i noticed |
| 02:41.13 | Damin | JerJer[mobile]: No.. people are too busy bitching about VoicePulse and Broadvoice! ;) |
| 02:41.17 | cursor | voxilla seems to be a /. wannabe |
| 02:41.24 | JerJer[mobile] | i fired him, now he's bitching |
| 02:42.05 | Vulture- | does nufone do g726? |
| 02:42.14 | *** join/#asterisk cloos (~cloos@ip-66-80-228-211.sjc.megapath.net) |
| 02:42.32 | cursor | yes |
| 02:42.41 | cursor | oh |
| 02:42.57 | cursor | jerjer, I saw your name against the speex codec in the credits file |
| 02:43.08 | cursor | so I tried it against your service |
| 02:43.19 | cursor | I think you may have taken it out |
| 02:43.44 | cursor | I'm happy using 726 though |
| 02:44.05 | Damin | |Vulture|: It works when I make calls to Nufone w/ 726. |
| 02:44.06 | cursor | so I don't really care |
| 02:44.22 | |Vulture| | Damin: thanx |
| 02:44.23 | cursor | yes, I use 726 to/from nufone |
| 02:44.57 | cursor | muppetmaster is an appropriate name |
| 02:45.16 | dedd | l8r fellas |
| 02:46.05 | JerJer[mobile] | cursor: we allow speex... i have a few wireless systems using speex |
| 02:46.19 | cursor | ok |
| 02:46.24 | cursor | I didn't look into it |
| 02:46.31 | cursor | I just tried because I saw your name :-) |
| 02:46.44 | cursor | As I said, I'm happy with 726 |
| 02:46.53 | JerJer[mobile] | i bought mark a DVD or something to get speex |
| 02:46.56 | JerJer[mobile] | can't remember |
| 02:47.08 | cursor | Ah, that's the secret :-) |
| 02:47.13 | JerJer[mobile] | a long time ago |
| 02:47.16 | cursor | haha |
| 02:47.17 | JerJer[mobile] | over a year |
| 02:47.20 | JerJer[mobile] | by now |
| 02:47.28 | JerJer[mobile] | oh i smell wifi |
| 02:48.16 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer[mobile] (~jj@mail.nufone.net) |
| 02:48.21 | JerJer[mobile] | ahh much betta |
| 02:49.59 | cursor | I just switched to speex |
| 02:50.14 | cursor | I dialled a 1800 number and got "the call cannot be completed as dialled" |
| 02:50.22 | cursor | The message was sent using speex :-) |
| 02:50.26 | jero | :) |
| 02:50.59 | cursor | odd |
| 02:51.07 | cursor | but not a biggie |
| 02:51.50 | JerJer[mobile] | fun this guy is only driving more customers to us |
| 02:51.59 | cursor | :-) |
| 02:55.14 | *** join/#asterisk jmhunter (~jacob@adsl-68-121-167-58.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 02:55.14 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o jmhunter] by ChanServ |
| 02:57.01 | bkw_ | JerJer[mobile] who's driving more customers to ya? |
| 02:57.22 | JerJer[mobile] | seriously we've had 18 ppl sign up after mentioning his posts on voxilla |
| 02:57.37 | JerJer[mobile] | bkw_: i fired a customer and he's now bitching |
| 02:57.49 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:57.59 | bkw_ | what did he say on voxilla? |
| 02:58.01 | *** join/#asterisk Jufineath (jufineath@stan.othius.com) |
| 02:58.02 | bkw_ | got a link? |
| 02:58.07 | dedd | http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10935301~mode=flat is this the same 1? |
| 02:58.13 | cursor | http://voxilla.com/forum-viewtopic-t-660.html |
| 02:58.14 | jmhunter | i read about the firing |
| 02:58.47 | jmhunter | hahah |
| 02:58.47 | *** join/#asterisk libpcp (libpcp@210.16.20.5) |
| 02:58.50 | libpcp | Hello everyone |
| 02:58.54 | jmhunter | guy is a nut.. he wants vonage |
| 02:59.07 | jmhunter | but he is using asterisk |
| 02:59.19 | *** join/#asterisk scud (~scud@12-218-70-19.client.mchsi.com) |
| 02:59.23 | JerJer[mobile] | his whole atitude was odd |
| 02:59.31 | JerJer[mobile] | i sorta feel played, acutally |
| 02:59.48 | JerJer[mobile] | he was buggin the piss out of me with email after email after email |
| 02:59.50 | jmhunter | it was pretty confusing post |
| 03:01.15 | jmhunter | he was like "theyre great but they sucked... |
| 03:01.17 | bkw_ | I must agree most people are idiots |
| 03:01.25 | bkw_ | this is why I don't talk in here much |
| 03:01.32 | jmhunter | =/ |
| 03:01.36 | bkw_ | because most people that come running in here have no sense of humor |
| 03:01.42 | bkw_ | and have a huge stick up their butt |
| 03:01.46 | jmhunter | i did some posting back to the idiot on bbr |
| 03:01.59 | sneak | 'sup jj? |
| 03:02.04 | bkw_ | so I don't talk much in here or help anyone because apparently since I don't wanna hand hold for free they get all pissy |
| 03:02.06 | bkw_ | and made |
| 03:02.07 | bkw_ | er mad |
| 03:02.10 | bkw_ | and blame me for everything |
| 03:02.11 | bkw_ | haha |
| 03:02.31 | *** join/#asterisk Damin (~damin@nucleus.nacs.net) |
| 03:02.47 | jmhunter | i hate looking for a new home... i have to prequal it for dsl.. argh |
| 03:02.57 | file[laptop] | jmhunter: dejavu |
| 03:03.05 | jmhunter | haha |
| 03:03.10 | jmhunter | last night |
| 03:03.20 | sneak | jmhunter: the place i just moved into is directly across the street from a switching office (like literally 100 feet) and has 27 unencrypted APs accessible from my windows. |
| 03:03.27 | bkw_ | jmhunter whats wrong? |
| 03:03.41 | bkw_ | moving? why? |
| 03:03.42 | sneak | the AP i've been making iax2 calls on all night is actually located in canada on cogeco cablemodem (i live right on the detroit river) |
| 03:03.43 | jmhunter | i think my landlord is trying to sell form under me |
| 03:03.52 | bkw_ | no option to buy |
| 03:03.57 | bkw_ | or rent from the new owners? |
| 03:04.09 | jmhunter | i can buy.... its too much for me |
| 03:04.22 | jmhunter | but new owners will be residents |
| 03:04.31 | jmhunter | theey want 600k+ |
| 03:04.38 | jmhunter | i have like 10k for a down |
| 03:04.43 | cursor | Ack, it's 26^C in here |
| 03:04.52 | cursor | Aircon switched on at 4am |
| 03:04.54 | cursor | haha |
| 03:05.03 | cursor | I thought it was warm |
| 03:05.09 | cursor | It'll cool down soon |
| 03:06.20 | bkw_ | AVP |
| 03:06.22 | bkw_ | ya baby ya |
| 03:06.37 | jmhunter | fuckkkkkk |
| 03:06.44 | bkw_ | are they running out of movie ideas? |
| 03:06.48 | jmhunter | and i still wanna move to bc... life is a bitch sometimes |
| 03:06.49 | bkw_ | freddy vs jason |
| 03:06.52 | bkw_ | alien vs predator |
| 03:07.43 | cursor | "Indeed, they have threatened to 'fire' me as a customer of their service" |
| 03:07.47 | cursor | :-) |
| 03:07.55 | dedd | haha |
| 03:07.57 | jmhunter | he did get fired |
| 03:08.00 | dedd | well i'm off to bed |
| 03:08.13 | cursor | Sorry - I have only just had a chance to read it past the second para |
| 03:08.47 | JerJer[mobile] | hell yes, I fired him |
| 03:09.09 | scud | JerJer[mobile]: lucky 225 is so fucking gay, the fag was at defcon and did a 'phreaking' panel |
| 03:09.29 | JerJer[mobile] | i almost flew myself out there for sunday |
| 03:09.43 | JerJer[mobile] | but i couldn't find a free comp and the moron wanted 40 bucks for the day |
| 03:10.18 | cursor | haha! |
| 03:10.18 | cursor | they sent me an email that simply said: |
| 03:10.18 | cursor | "Your fired" |
| 03:10.24 | cursor | I like it |
| 03:10.33 | cursor | ~fire jerjer |
| 03:10.35 | jbot | I'm sorry, jerjer, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 03:10.37 | scud | JerJer[mobile]: he called "a person calling you back on your voip service" an exploit b/c it shows the callerid no matter what |
| 03:10.39 | drumkilla | i hope it said "You're", hehe |
| 03:10.40 | cursor | You should have used that one |
| 03:10.49 | scud | JerJer[mobile]: then talked about voip and setting the callerid was an "exploit" |
| 03:10.59 | scud | it was very laughable, i was going to call him on nufone but decided not too |
| 03:11.20 | scud | like ask why he named nufone for whatever reason he did |
| 03:11.26 | JerJer[mobile] | i disabled the setting and receiving of caller*id friday 4pm eastern |
| 03:11.39 | jmhunter | WHAT? |
| 03:11.41 | JerJer[mobile] | until 9am monday morning est |
| 03:11.45 | jmhunter | o |
| 03:11.48 | scud | i took some pictures of him to see how goofy and retarded looking he is |
| 03:12.13 | file | I didn't notice either, nor do I care |
| 03:12.15 | scud | JerJer[mobile]: he looks like a 14 kid |
| 03:12.19 | bkw_ | same here |
| 03:12.24 | bkw_ | I do NO care |
| 03:12.32 | file | it's a feature, not a guaranteed thing |
| 03:12.40 | JerJer[mobile] | privilage |
| 03:12.54 | bkw_ | not a right... but a privilage |
| 03:12.58 | bkw_ | kinda like spandex |
| 03:13.22 | file | yeah yeah we all mean the same thing |
| 03:13.33 | scud | people act like spoofing callerid is untraceable |
| 03:13.42 | scud | its alot diff then spoofing ip packets |
| 03:13.48 | bkw_ | haha yep |
| 03:13.56 | bkw_ | those people that said it was an "exploit" are FUCKING IDIOTS |
| 03:13.59 | bkw_ | looking for fame |
| 03:14.02 | scud | yep |
| 03:14.07 | JerJer[mobile] | yeah call any anac number the ANI always reports some crazy nuumber, which can be associated to nufone's clec |
| 03:14.15 | bkw_ | and in real life.. they need to be bloody with a metal ball bat |
| 03:14.28 | jmhunter | i wish callerid spoofing didnt keep hitting the news or theres going to be a lw against it soon |
| 03:14.35 | scud | the funny thing was everyone was like ohhhhhhh ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 03:14.42 | jmhunter | and bkw will get a proby violation |
| 03:14.53 | bkw_ | i'm not on probation you ninny |
| 03:15.00 | bkw_ | er ya I am |
| 03:15.01 | bkw_ | damn it |
| 03:15.07 | bkw_ | I wish I wasn't |
| 03:15.07 | bkw_ | haha |
| 03:15.14 | jmhunter | i didnt say parole you ninny |
| 03:15.47 | bkw_ | jmhunter you can pay a crack head to beat someone to death |
| 03:15.47 | bkw_ | its 20 bucks |
| 03:15.47 | jmhunter | i ran you through NCIC in car when i was bored the other day |
| 03:15.48 | bkw_ | i'm there |
| 03:15.50 | jmhunter | it was down, i couldnt get anything back |
| 03:15.54 | cursor | When you said you fired someone and they were complaining, I thought you meant a member of staff :-) |
| 03:16.06 | bkw_ | cursor no I have fired customers before too |
| 03:16.11 | cursor | me too |
| 03:16.14 | bkw_ | they are the ones YOU CAN NOT please no matter how hard you try |
| 03:16.18 | bkw_ | so I tell em to fuck off |
| 03:16.19 | bkw_ | :P |
| 03:16.19 | cursor | right |
| 03:16.22 | jmhunter | bkw did u do the lil hand thing |
| 03:16.30 | bkw_ | lil hand thing? |
| 03:16.37 | jmhunter | trump |
| 03:16.38 | mishehu | you can only fire employees or contractors. you cannot fire customers. but you can drop them like rocks. |
| 03:16.42 | mishehu | or a bad habit. |
| 03:16.43 | bkw_ | trump? |
| 03:16.48 | *** join/#asterisk CaNaBuS (canabis@pcp02022452pcs.rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net) |
| 03:16.48 | jmhunter | u fired... and it looks like he slaps the person |
| 03:16.54 | bkw_ | no I fire customers |
| 03:17.06 | cursor | with a flamethrower |
| 03:17.09 | bkw_ | yes |
| 03:17.10 | jmhunter | according to bbr. u can fire customers |
| 03:17.11 | bkw_ | WOOOSH |
| 03:17.16 | bkw_ | on fire |
| 03:17.34 | jero | you can get the callerid static, too |
| 03:18.34 | cursor | http://www.pastebin.com/88563 |
| 03:18.39 | cursor | send that to the next one :-) |
| 03:18.40 | bkw_ | pastebin.ca boi |
| 03:18.41 | bkw_ | use it |
| 03:18.47 | cursor | I did |
| 03:18.51 | cursor | I posted it there too |
| 03:19.00 | cursor | but it doesn't work properly with my MSIE 5.5 |
| 03:19.08 | cursor | I should use a different workstation |
| 03:19.09 | bkw_ | what? |
| 03:19.15 | cursor | This one only has 5.5 |
| 03:19.17 | cursor | on purpose |
| 03:19.22 | cursor | all of them have different versions |
| 03:19.24 | *** join/#asterisk Wi_Fi (~out@c-66-229-160-14.we.client2.attbi.com) |
| 03:19.25 | cursor | for testing |
| 03:19.28 | jero | lol |
| 03:19.28 | bkw_ | http://pastebin.ca/425 |
| 03:19.46 | Wi_Fi | hahahahaha |
| 03:19.46 | jero | are you in canada bkw_ ? |
| 03:19.50 | Wi_Fi | nice bkw |
| 03:20.22 | jmhunter | if slepp is the cto of the company who is the ceo |
| 03:20.31 | bkw_ | his ass |
| 03:20.39 | slePP | mark |
| 03:20.45 | cursor | cto, cta, cat |
| 03:21.00 | jsharp | eieio |
| 03:21.03 | cursor | which company? |
| 03:21.07 | slePP | netmonks |
| 03:21.13 | cursor | ah |
| 03:21.52 | jmhunter | can i be the FAT at netmonks slepp? |
| 03:21.55 | bkw_ | no i'm not in canada |
| 03:22.00 | bkw_ | but slePP runs pastebin.ca |
| 03:22.05 | jero | I see, thanks |
| 03:22.31 | Wi_Fi | http://pastebin.ca/426 |
| 03:22.43 | jsharp | HMFIC? |
| 03:22.48 | bkw_ | ID10T |
| 03:22.56 | cursor | http://pastebin.ca/427 |
| 03:22.58 | bkw_ | eye dee ten tee |
| 03:23.16 | Wi_Fi | now thats good |
| 03:23.24 | jmhunter | pen15 |
| 03:23.32 | Wi_Fi | ouch |
| 03:23.32 | jero | :) |
| 03:23.47 | bkw_ | slePP http://pastebin.ca/428 |
| 03:23.49 | jsharp | milf? |
| 03:23.50 | jsharp | Er, no. |
| 03:23.52 | cursor | http://pastebin.ca/429 |
| 03:24.03 | Wi_Fi | ahhaha |
| 03:24.05 | jmhunter | stop flooding pastebin.ca with bs |
| 03:24.07 | litnimax | :D |
| 03:24.17 | cursor | haha |
| 03:24.45 | cursor | http://pastebin.ca/431 |
| 03:24.45 | jero | lol |
| 03:24.47 | cursor | no bs here |
| 03:24.49 | slePP | hehehe |
| 03:24.51 | slePP | sleppy sleppy doo |
| 03:24.52 | slePP | :> |
| 03:25.03 | bkw_ | ;) |
| 03:25.10 | jero | any voice interface to pastebin.ca so we can paste voice quotes through sip ? |
| 03:25.19 | slePP | hehehe |
| 03:25.20 | slePP | that's an idea |
| 03:25.30 | jero | :) |
| 03:25.34 | cursor | that's a good idea |
| 03:25.47 | cursor | call a #, leave a message and get a ref# |
| 03:26.02 | cursor | people download the mp3 from pastebin with the ref# |
| 03:26.13 | jero | someone will go to bed late this night |
| 03:26.15 | bkw_ | voicebin |
| 03:26.22 | cursor | voicebox |
| 03:26.32 | Jufineath | voicepaste |
| 03:26.34 | bkw_ | be you could collect some funny shit |
| 03:26.45 | bkw_ | slePP if you finish up the moosepenis.com ivr prompts we can put that in the mix |
| 03:26.56 | jero | moosepenis ?¿ |
| 03:27.07 | bkw_ | call 877 YO MOOSE |
| 03:27.09 | slePP | k |
| 03:27.14 | jero | lol |
| 03:27.19 | *** join/#asterisk Techieb0y (~corbett@24.236.189.241.up.mi.chartermi.net) |
| 03:27.20 | bkw_ | i'm not kidding |
| 03:27.21 | bkw_ | call it |
| 03:27.38 | jero | who ? |
| 03:27.43 | bkw_ | anyone |
| 03:27.44 | bkw_ | call it |
| 03:27.47 | bkw_ | its funny as hell |
| 03:27.50 | bkw_ | its slePP's voice |
| 03:27.56 | jero | is it free of charge ? |
| 03:28.00 | bkw_ | yes |
| 03:28.05 | jero | even from canada ? |
| 03:28.10 | bkw_ | dont know |
| 03:28.14 | slePP | doesn't work from canada |
| 03:28.19 | jero | ok |
| 03:28.35 | JerJer[mobile] | no i don't think canada is enabled |
| 03:28.43 | slePP | no, it's not |
| 03:28.44 | jsharp | Bwah. That's hysterical. |
| 03:28.47 | jero | i'm new to this country i dunno anything here :) |
| 03:28.50 | Alric | haha |
| 03:28.59 | Alric | Nice slePP. |
| 03:29.08 | slePP | jerjer should enable it, though ;> |
| 03:29.13 | jero | any mp3 transcription please ? |
| 03:29.27 | JerJer[mobile] | yeah the cock-suckers at NuFone won't call me back |
| 03:29.33 | jero | lol |
| 03:29.38 | jsharp | Can't call US 800 numbers through iaxtel anymore? |
| 03:29.40 | cursor | slepp, when you first go to pb, you should be taken to the 'new post' page, rather than the most recent post |
| 03:29.49 | JerJer[mobile] | jsharp: you should be able to |
| 03:29.51 | Wi_Fi | a quick question for ya guys |
| 03:29.53 | Wi_Fi | ? |
| 03:29.56 | cursor | I would have thought that people either go there to post, or follow a link |
| 03:30.24 | jsharp | Who paid Allison to go "Moooo!"? |
| 03:30.28 | litnimax | *CLI> Aug 3 11:30:18 WARNING[1200825920]: channel.c:1860 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'ZAP' |
| 03:30.28 | litnimax | Aug 3 11:30:18 NOTICE[1200825920]: app_dial.c:714 dial_exec: Unable to create channel of type 'ZAP' |
| 03:30.35 | jmhunter | argh trying to get my credit report |
| 03:30.36 | cursor | Ah - there it is, I thought I'd lost that... |
| 03:30.36 | cursor | http://pastebin.ca/396 |
| 03:30.47 | cursor | That's something I'm trying to fix |
| 03:30.48 | Wi_Fi | installed asterisk on laptop with debian ... what would cause the sound to buzz when asterisk is running |
| 03:30.56 | litnimax | wcfxo 9376 0 (unused) |
| 03:30.57 | litnimax | zaptel 178144 0 [wcfxo] |
| 03:30.58 | JerJer[mobile] | litnimax: chan_zap doesn't seep to be loaded |
| 03:31.00 | jero | litnimax: zapata.conf? zap.cfg ? |
| 03:31.02 | JerJer[mobile] | or configured properly |
| 03:31.11 | litnimax | i dont have file chan_zap.so |
| 03:31.42 | litnimax | root@localhost zaptel]# ztcfg -vv |
| 03:31.43 | litnimax | Zaptel Configuration |
| 03:31.43 | litnimax | ====================== |
| 03:31.43 | litnimax | Channel map: |
| 03:31.43 | litnimax | Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01) |
| 03:31.43 | litnimax | Channel 02: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 02) |
| 03:31.45 | litnimax | Channel 03: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 03) |
| 03:31.47 | litnimax | 3 channels configured. |
| 03:31.56 | cursor | Your config file doesn't specify fxsks=1, or whatever |
| 03:32.08 | litnimax | chan_zap does is not compiling |
| 03:32.14 | slePP | cursor: yeh, i've thought about that |
| 03:32.26 | cursor | See your /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 03:32.30 | cursor | if you have one :-) |
| 03:32.32 | litnimax | fxsks=1-3 |
| 03:32.36 | litnimax | i have |
| 03:32.42 | litnimax | this is a line from there |
| 03:33.07 | cursor | which OS/distro/kernel? |
| 03:33.24 | drumkilla | and what is your dial string |
| 03:33.43 | litnimax | [root@localhost asterisk]# find . -name chan_zap* |
| 03:33.44 | litnimax | ./asterisk/channels/chan_zap.c |
| 03:33.44 | litnimax | ./voicepet-single-x100p/asterisk/asterisk/channels/chan_zap_old.c |
| 03:33.44 | litnimax | ./voicepet-single-x100p/asterisk/asterisk/channels/chan_zap.c |
| 03:33.44 | litnimax | ./voicepet-dual-x100p/asterisk/asterisk/channels/chan_zap_old.c |
| 03:33.44 | litnimax | ./voicepet-dual-x100p/asterisk/asterisk/channels/chan_zap.c |
| 03:33.53 | litnimax | no .o file :-/ |
| 03:33.58 | litnimax | will try to compile by hand |
| 03:34.25 | cursor | It won't build unless zaptel is compiled and installed |
| 03:34.37 | Wi_Fi | anyone able to get Actos to compile in debian? |
| 03:34.55 | cursor | Debian - spit |
| 03:35.00 | litnimax | cursor: ok, i installed it with common prefix, and * did not find it |
| 03:35.12 | slePP | cursor: like that? |
| 03:35.18 | cursor | common prefix? |
| 03:35.23 | litnimax | i will specify now CFLAGS and LDFLAGS. |
| 03:35.26 | Wi_Fi | spit ... and thats it |
| 03:35.38 | litnimax | INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/asterisk/... |
| 03:35.44 | cursor | yes - I'll try to piss on it later :-) |
| 03:35.48 | cursor | I can't at the moment |
| 03:35.58 | cursor | ah |
| 03:36.00 | Wi_Fi | and why |
| 03:36.16 | cursor | The Makefiles need a lot of patching to get the INSTALL_PREFIX to work properly |
| 03:36.22 | cursor | I'll send you the patches if you like |
| 03:36.35 | cursor | I use /opt/asterisk |
| 03:36.45 | cursor | so I have /opt/asterisk/etc/asterisk |
| 03:36.45 | litnimax | patches for what? |
| 03:36.51 | cursor | zaptel's Makefile |
| 03:37.03 | pfn | only the makefile needs to be modified for install_prefix? |
| 03:37.05 | litnimax | what are the most importnat or intresting pathes for * ? |
| 03:37.13 | Wi_Fi | ok anyone besides cursor get actos to run |
| 03:37.28 | cursor | yes |
| 03:37.32 | litnimax | what is actos? |
| 03:37.43 | pfn | that sounds easy enough |
| 03:37.51 | cursor | what is actos? |
| 03:37.56 | pfn | google |
| 03:38.04 | cursor | google != actos |
| 03:38.07 | jero | what is google ? |
| 03:38.11 | pfn | ~google actos |
| 03:38.20 | pfn | ok, no idea |
| 03:38.22 | jero | lol |
| 03:38.27 | cursor | I can't be bothered to research it right now :-) |
| 03:38.29 | Wi_Fi | Asterisk Configuration Tool Open Source |
| 03:38.30 | pfn | comp |
| 03:38.32 | pfn | oops |
| 03:38.41 | cursor | oh |
| 03:38.44 | cursor | never used it |
| 03:38.54 | pfn | never heard of actos |
| 03:39.10 | litnimax | root@localhost asterisk]# cvs checkout actos |
| 03:39.10 | litnimax | cvs server: cannot find module `actos' - ignored |
| 03:39.11 | litnimax | :D |
| 03:39.15 | cursor | That looks like a contrived acronym that's been shoehorned into the word |
| 03:39.27 | Wi_Fi | lookin for a web based configuration for * |
| 03:39.37 | pfn | there's destar |
| 03:39.40 | cursor | It would be better as just ACT |
| 03:39.47 | Wi_Fi | hmmm |
| 03:39.52 | cursor | or ACT! to annoy the MS application people |
| 03:40.02 | jero | lol |
| 03:40.06 | Wi_Fi | i will seek it out then |
| 03:40.09 | Wi_Fi | thnx |
| 03:40.39 | jero | looks nice at least |
| 03:40.48 | pfn | so what's actos |
| 03:41.26 | cursor | It's not an OS |
| 03:41.28 | cursor | it seems |
| 03:41.41 | jero | its a gui for editing .confs |
| 03:41.46 | pfn | no shit |
| 03:41.48 | pfn | what's the url |
| 03:41.56 | jero | http://www.ifrance.com/belikewater/code/actos.html |
| 03:41.57 | cursor | www.vim.org |
| 03:42.00 | jero | cursor: -lol- |
| 03:42.25 | slePP | cursor: there. how's that? |
| 03:42.40 | cursor | where? |
| 03:42.44 | jero | on vim.org |
| 03:42.51 | slePP | pb mainpage |
| 03:43.01 | pfn | that ifrance site is no good |
| 03:43.21 | jero | its full of ads |
| 03:43.29 | cursor | ywp - better |
| 03:43.33 | cursor | yep |
| 03:43.38 | pfn | no, I can't even get to it |
| 03:43.46 | jero | really ? |
| 03:44.16 | Wi_Fi | wowo |
| 03:44.45 | *** join/#asterisk sudhir492 (~sudhir@69-170-22-169.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 03:44.51 | sudhir492 | Hi all |
| 03:45.12 | pfn | god, that site is so slow |
| 03:45.26 | sudhir492 | How does the transfer work in SIP phones? I have GS-486s |
| 03:45.27 | cursor | God? Did someone call? |
| 03:45.43 | *** join/#asterisk sremington (~sremingto@207.238.40.125) |
| 03:46.07 | cursor | Does your phone have a transfer button? |
| 03:46.51 | cursor | If not then configure your Dialplan to allow you to press "#" to transfer |
| 03:47.02 | cursor | see the Dial() docs in the Wiki for more info on the "#" transfer |
| 03:47.11 | cursor | See the "T" and "t" args |
| 03:47.24 | cursor | Having a transfer facility on the phone is best |
| 03:47.40 | jero | #transfer sucks everytime you speak to another IVR |
| 03:47.48 | cursor | I don't use # |
| 03:47.59 | cursor | And I don't speak to IVRs |
| 03:48.02 | pfn | ? |
| 03:48.17 | jero | i do :) |
| 03:48.33 | pfn | # transfer isn't supposed to xmit # |
| 03:48.54 | pfn | or it shouldn't |
| 03:49.07 | cursor | If a company can't answer with a person, or allow a quick exit to a person then I don't deal with them |
| 03:49.09 | jero | that's why it causes a problem when the voice says "enter your pin code, followed by #" |
| 03:49.22 | cursor | quick exit == "dial 3 for none of the above" |
| 03:49.31 | sudhir492 | The problem is that I have 2 phones, one of them is GS BT-100 and another GS ATA-486, on BT-100 transfer works fine but on 486 it does not |
| 03:49.37 | cursor | or "Press * if you have a touch tone phone" and then just wait |
| 03:49.59 | jero | would be nice |
| 03:50.06 | jero | the worse ever |
| 03:50.07 | cursor | What happens on the 486? |
| 03:50.15 | pfn | you can't flash transfer on the 486? |
| 03:50.19 | cursor | Is that one of those handytone 486s? |
| 03:50.20 | jero | is companies with a voice recognition interface |
| 03:50.34 | jero | that does not recognize voice properly |
| 03:50.46 | jero | and does not allow dialing tones |
| 03:50.53 | sudhir492 | no, flash gives me another call appearance, puts first call on hold and lets me dial another. |
| 03:50.56 | cursor | 555-tell |
| 03:51.12 | cursor | yes |
| 03:51.17 | sudhir492 | then I can switch between the calls but cannot make a 3-way call either |
| 03:51.21 | slePP | cursor: damn you! |
| 03:51.27 | cursor | dial another, say "I have a call for you" and hangup |
| 03:51.44 | cursor | :-) |
| 03:51.56 | cursor | catch |
| 03:51.57 | sudhir492 | cursor: Yes Handytone 486 |
| 03:51.59 | cursor | take that |
| 03:52.02 | cursor | and that |
| 03:52.17 | cursor | ok |
| 03:52.21 | cursor | try what I said |
| 03:52.36 | cursor | flash, announce the call to the person you dial |
| 03:52.44 | cursor | hangup and it'll probably transfer |
| 03:53.02 | cursor | That's the way it works on the SPA-2000 |
| 03:53.05 | pfn | sudhir when you hang up it should transfer |
| 03:53.07 | sudhir492 | cursor: Unfortunately, hang up kills both the calls |
| 03:53.30 | cursor | then you will have to use the '#' transfer facility in Asterisk |
| 03:53.34 | pfn | then # transfer is your only choice |
| 03:53.38 | cursor | See the Dial() command in the Wiki |
| 03:53.39 | pfn | since apparently, the ht486 sucks |
| 03:53.56 | cursor | It doesn't suck |
| 03:53.58 | cursor | it blows |
| 03:54.07 | JerJer[mobile] | ok i'm hiding again |
| 03:54.23 | sudhir492 | pfn: tell me about ht-486. Unfortunately I havent found an economical substitute for ht486 |
| 03:54.25 | pfn | wow, jerjer came back? |
| 03:54.25 | cursor | Right, you'te free to talk about jerjer again |
| 03:54.26 | cursor | haha |
| 03:54.45 | cursor | How much is a 486? |
| 03:54.58 | sudhir492 | I get them at $60 apiece |
| 03:55.08 | cursor | The SPA-2000 is $95 and you get two ports |
| 03:55.19 | cursor | The SPA-1000 is one port and is close to your $60 |
| 03:55.27 | sudhir492 | really? |
| 03:55.30 | cursor | yes |
| 03:55.36 | sudhir492 | I have to try them then |
| 03:56.44 | cursor | http://voipstore.atacomm.com/shops/ViewItem.aspx/27934028032-31891743744.htm |
| 03:56.51 | sudhir492 | thanks |
| 03:56.54 | cursor | spa-2000 at atacomm |
| 03:57.44 | cursor | The SPA-1000 is more than I thought - I'd just go for the 2000 anyway |
| 03:57.47 | cursor | http://voipstore.atacomm.com/shops/ViewItem.aspx/27934028032-34702080768.htm |
| 03:58.23 | sudhir492 | yes, SPA-2000 is good value. However what do I do if I need only 1 extension :-( |
| 03:58.41 | cursor | Then you have 3 choices |
| 03:58.47 | cursor | 1. HT-486 |
| 03:58.50 | cursor | 2. SPA-1000 |
| 03:59.05 | cursor | 3. (best choice) SPA-2000 and only use one of the ports for now |
| 03:59.17 | *** join/#asterisk digilord (~digilord@wsip-68-98-214-246.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:59.32 | cursor | A PBX with one extension is a bit of a waste of space |
| 03:59.39 | cursor | You may as well buy an answering machine |
| 04:00.19 | pfn | I only have 1 real extension..... |
| 04:00.20 | sudhir492 | cursor, actually it is for remote office setup. Employees have 1 extension at home |
| 04:00.40 | cursor | If you have only one exten then you don't need to worry about transfers :-) |
| 04:00.49 | digilord | If I want a * box to use analog lines to dial out will they dial out in roundrobin if I put them in the extensions file in the same context? |
| 04:00.49 | sudhir492 | there are around 40 extensions. |
| 04:00.49 | cursor | How about an IAXy |
| 04:01.11 | cursor | A single port IAXy costs slightly more than a dual port SPA-2000 |
| 04:01.22 | sudhir492 | cursor: Are you kidding me. they are $100 a piece and do not support G729 |
| 04:01.30 | sudhir492 | consume a lot of bandwidth |
| 04:01.33 | cursor | but I hear that they can be useful if you're behind a NAT at home |
| 04:01.49 | cursor | Who needs G.729? |
| 04:01.51 | pfn | nat=yes is wonderful |
| 04:01.53 | sudhir492 | Even SIP phones work fine behind a NAT |
| 04:02.14 | cursor | oooo k |
| 04:02.34 | cursor | That really depends upon a lot of factors |
| 04:02.36 | sudhir492 | we do. Some of them have just 128Kbps connection. No cable there and only idsl |
| 04:02.50 | cursor | GSM |
| 04:02.52 | cursor | iLBC |
| 04:02.57 | cursor | G.726 |
| 04:03.18 | cursor | the Sipura supports 726 |
| 04:03.23 | sudhir492 | I dont think IAXY supports ilbc or 726 |
| 04:03.32 | sudhir492 | I can check though |
| 04:03.43 | cursor | I don't have one, so I can't confirm or deny |
| 04:04.05 | sudhir492 | is GSM same as PCMA? |
| 04:04.09 | cursor | no |
| 04:04.18 | sudhir492 | what is it then? |
| 04:04.24 | cursor | It's GSM-FR |
| 04:04.31 | sudhir492 | ok |
| 04:04.33 | cursor | Like you get on a GSM phone |
| 04:04.38 | cursor | cellphone |
| 04:04.39 | pfn | fr? |
| 04:04.43 | cursor | Full Rate |
| 04:04.48 | pfn | indeed |
| 04:04.55 | cursor | GSM-HR - half-rate |
| 04:05.04 | cursor | GSM-EFR - enhanced full-rate |
| 04:05.11 | cursor | Asterisk supports GSM-FR |
| 04:05.26 | sudhir492 | Another question, I have the folliwng line in my extensions.conf |
| 04:05.38 | JunK-Y | wb guys |
| 04:05.47 | litnimax | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.48 | cursor | wb? |
| 04:05.55 | cursor | Warner Bros? |
| 04:06.30 | sudhir492 | exten => *123,1,voicemailmain(s${CALLERIDNUM}@default) |
| 04:06.45 | sudhir492 | why doesnt it go to the mailbox of the caller? |
| 04:06.51 | pfn | sudhir492 it does |
| 04:06.53 | cursor | Remove the * |
| 04:07.02 | pfn | no the * is irrelevant |
| 04:07.10 | pfn | sudhir492 make sure CALLERIDNUM is correct |
| 04:07.13 | pfn | and what's s? |
| 04:07.19 | Legend` | s is no password |
| 04:07.23 | sudhir492 | dont check the password |
| 04:07.27 | cursor | yes |
| 04:07.31 | cursor | s is 'no shite' |
| 04:07.33 | pfn | oh, no password |
| 04:08.07 | cursor | so you don't get the Alison prompt after yours |
| 04:08.16 | *** join/#asterisk digilord (~digilord@wsip-68-98-214-246.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:08.20 | sudhir492 | pnf: actually, I want them to dial *123 for voicemail, hence * is relevant |
| 04:08.25 | cursor | ok |
| 04:08.36 | cursor | Do as pfn said and check that the callerid is correct |
| 04:08.41 | cursor | Add this... |
| 04:08.52 | sudhir492 | it does go to the voicemail application however it still asks for the mailbox and password |
| 04:08.53 | cursor | exten => *123,1,NoOp(ID is ${CALLERIDNUM}) |
| 04:08.59 | cursor | and change the existing ,1, to ,2, |
| 04:09.16 | digilord | I got bumped off the net...Did anyone answer my question about multiple ZAP channels and dialout |
| 04:09.22 | cursor | the look at the Asterisk console mode while dialling |
| 04:09.38 | cursor | (digi) what question? |
| 04:09.40 | pfn | no, the * is not relevant to that |
| 04:09.49 | cursor | ok |
| 04:10.02 | cursor | I was thinking it was some sort of attempt at a wildcard :-) |
| 04:10.17 | cursor | I forgot that * is valid |
| 04:10.18 | digilord | If I have multiple ZAP channels will * round robin them if I put them in the dial out context? |
| 04:10.27 | cursor | yes |
| 04:10.29 | Legend` | digilord: you want to use groups |
| 04:10.30 | pfn | digilord uh, what? |
| 04:10.32 | cursor | put them in the same group |
| 04:10.36 | pfn | you need to use groups |
| 04:10.37 | pfn | right |
| 04:10.40 | cursor | and Dial(ZAP/g1/1234) |
| 04:10.43 | Legend` | digilord: its all documented on the wiki |
| 04:11.07 | digilord | I couldn't find it...Maybe I was using the wrong wording |
| 04:11.08 | Legend` | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20ZAP%20channels |
| 04:11.10 | sudhir492 | So you are suggesting to have: |
| 04:11.10 | sudhir492 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.10 | sudhir492 | exten => *123,1,NoOp(ID is ${CALLERIDNUM}) |
| 04:11.10 | sudhir492 | exten => *123,1,VoicemailMain(s${ID}@default) |
| 04:11.19 | cursor | change the ,1, to ,2, |
| 04:11.24 | sudhir492 | sure |
| 04:11.26 | cursor | for voicemail |
| 04:11.29 | Legend` | digilord: i just searched for "round robin" to get that ;p |
| 04:11.29 | cursor | so 1=noop |
| 04:11.32 | cursor | and 2=voicemail |
| 04:11.37 | sudhir492 | sorry about the. cut and paste |
| 04:11.41 | sudhir492 | let me try that. |
| 04:11.44 | cursor | It won't round-robin |
| 04:11.49 | cursor | it'll use the first available zap channel |
| 04:12.14 | Legend` | cursor: you get set it however you want |
| 04:12.17 | cursor | Round-robin means that they all get to play |
| 04:12.26 | cursor | for for outbound Zap dials you don't |
| 04:12.27 | digilord | Ok perfect |
| 04:12.40 | digilord | Sorry I didn't use that in my searches |
| 04:12.43 | cursor | You're probably thinking of queues |
| 04:12.48 | Legend` | # g: select the lowest-numbered non-busy Zap channel. |
| 04:12.48 | Legend` | # G: select the highest-numbered non-busy Zap channel. |
| 04:12.48 | Legend` | # r: use a round-robin search, starting at the next highest channel than last time. |
| 04:12.48 | Legend` | # G: use a round-robin search, starting at the next lowest channel than last time. |
| 04:13.10 | digilord | Nope...What Legend`posted is what I was looking for |
| 04:13.19 | pfn | ugh, I hate not being the only fxo connected to the telco |
| 04:13.19 | pfn | the single pots line |
| 04:13.27 | Legend` | cursor: thats the problem with rapid development |
| 04:13.34 | JunK-Y | is there any URLs for * benchmark realised on different machines? |
| 04:13.50 | Legend` | JunK-Y: wiki |
| 04:14.05 | cursor | No two asterisk configs are alike |
| 04:14.12 | cursor | so benchmarks are irrelevent |
| 04:14.16 | cursor | unless someone upgrades |
| 04:14.21 | cursor | and runs the same tests before and after |
| 04:14.33 | cursor | and posts their config etc. |
| 04:14.36 | cursor | and usage |
| 04:15.07 | JunK-Y | Legend`: do ya've a specific URL ? i've already searched for benchmark, without success :( |
| 04:15.46 | Legend` | JunK-Y: "asterisk dimensioning" |
| 04:16.33 | JunK-Y | thx |
| 04:16.51 | digilord | Thanks all...Off to set that up! |
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| 04:21.52 | brent21 | I love Polycom Support, In a request to not have the volume reset after each call (a function of the phone, because of ADA): 2) We don't support the Asterisk IP-PBX and you should not be calling Tech Support for assistance. |
| 04:23.04 | pfn | heh, assholes |
| 04:23.31 | pfn | should just lie and say you're using something else |
| 04:23.59 | jsharp | Some SIP PBX that runs on Windows. That should land somewhere in their tech support scripts. |
| 04:24.53 | brent21 | haha yeah, funny thing is after we requested this in March, they fixed it in April |
| 04:24.58 | brent21 | then I just get this email tonight |
| 04:25.05 | pfn | heh, assholes |
| 04:25.08 | bkw_ | what did they fix? |
| 04:25.11 | pfn | brent which phone are you using |
| 04:25.19 | brent21 | The IP 500 |
| 04:25.26 | bkw_ | well they'll never get any of my business |
| 04:25.28 | brent21 | the volume reset after every call, so everyone would complain |
| 04:25.37 | brent21 | old people liked the volume loud |
| 04:25.43 | brent21 | young office staff likes it low |
| 04:25.56 | brent21 | but due to ADA, it said a function should allow the volume to persist |
| 04:26.00 | litnimax | actos... my be implement Zope product to manage * configs? |
| 04:26.16 | brent21 | well a function didnt exist until sip 1.2, previously to that, they just rammed it down your throat and said chew on that |
| 04:26.38 | brent21 | Part of my response back to Polycom: |
| 04:26.39 | bkw_ | what the heck does volume have to do with the ADA? |
| 04:26.39 | brent21 | Also, the request was not for support of the Asterisk IP-PBX. I understand Asterisk quite well, and to me, one of the 8000 users on the Asterisk Mailing List (with rapid growth) Polycom’s attitude towards the fastest growing Soft Switch platform is a huge disappointment (and lost business opportunity). |
| 04:26.49 | brent21 | American w/ Dissabilities Act |
| 04:26.51 | Legend` | thats why you guys should be using Sayson phones, they are * friendly ;D |
| 04:26.55 | bkw_ | yes I know what it is |
| 04:27.00 | bkw_ | but why would the volume have anything to do with that |
| 04:27.14 | cursor | Any act with "American" in it doesn't apply to me :-) |
| 04:27.21 | bkw_ | ya really |
| 04:27.31 | brent21 | Basically stipulates that an ADA compliant phone returns the volume to the original level |
| 04:27.51 | bkw_ | I want it to stay ALL the way up |
| 04:27.56 | pfn | original level? why??? |
| 04:27.58 | pfn | shitty |
| 04:28.02 | bkw_ | ya really |
| 04:28.05 | bkw_ | I don't like a phone to do that crap |
| 04:28.08 | bkw_ | stay at one level |
| 04:28.10 | bkw_ | or fuck off |
| 04:28.17 | pfn | it should be set at what you want it to be and stay there |
| 04:28.20 | pfn | yep |
| 04:28.22 | sudhir492 | does sipura let you make 3way call? |
| 04:28.26 | pfn | I'd imagine ADA would do the same, too |
| 04:28.27 | bkw_ | sudhir492 yes |
| 04:28.33 | brent21 | I wonder if they'll respond to this: When the volume is not held at a consistent level, I feel that an inquiry is certainly warranted, unless Polycom wants to make your source code available so we can compile our own sip versions. J Believe me, I avoid calling you guys at all costs. |
| 04:28.40 | sudhir492 | GS-486s dont ? |
| 04:29.28 | cursor | What's the difference between a GS-486 and a HT-486? |
| 04:29.32 | Damin | Hot Chicks on Fear Factor! :) |
| 04:29.37 | cursor | Is it a GS HT-486? |
| 04:30.00 | jsharp | Hot Chicks on Joe Schmoe! |
| 04:30.16 | brent21 | Finally got my Tellabs Echo Canceller installed and working today... Going to post something up on the wiki after measure the results this week.. im stoked. |
| 04:30.20 | cursor | There was a hot chick in my microwave oven earlier |
| 04:30.40 | Damin | I think they are going to eay horse rectum. |
| 04:31.06 | Damin | Eat even.. |
| 04:31.13 | cursor | Why? |
| 04:31.47 | cursor | American TV is for idiots. |
| 04:32.15 | pfn | I wonder what is replacing angel this season |
| 04:32.33 | pfn | although, I have 2 tv cards |
| 04:32.36 | pfn | and a projector |
| 04:32.36 | pfn | heh |
| 04:33.14 | JohnWayne | ok, why does my polycom ip 600 keep thinking that I have 7 new messages |
| 04:33.34 | cursor | 500 channels full of rubbish |
| 04:33.36 | cursor | and adverts |
| 04:33.44 | brent21 | cursor, where you from? |
| 04:33.48 | cursor | here |
| 04:33.53 | cursor | :-) |
| 04:33.56 | cursor | London, England |
| 04:34.03 | brent21 | haha nice, yeah i lived in london |
| 04:34.05 | brent21 | love the BBC |
| 04:34.14 | cursor | No adverts on the BBC |
| 04:34.26 | bkw_ | ya I watch maybe 10 channels |
| 04:34.30 | brent21 | The Office, favorite series |
| 04:34.30 | bkw_ | the rest can just go away |
| 04:34.41 | cursor | The Office was good :-) |
| 04:35.01 | cursor | No canned laughter to tell the muppets when they're supposed to laugh |
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| 04:36.04 | brent21 | true, I hope to be able to go back in live in London some day. I was just there on a student visa, it's hard to get a work permit though |
| 04:36.23 | cursor | Update to one of my bug reports by twisted: |
| 04:36.23 | cursor | spoke with cursor on IRC, he stated he will be unable to file a disclaimer. |
| 04:36.23 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.23 | cursor | and close it. |
| 04:36.25 | cursor | :-) |
| 04:36.43 | bkw_ | cursor no disclaimer? |
| 04:36.45 | bkw_ | what? |
| 04:36.55 | cursor | You asked and I told you that already |
| 04:37.11 | pfn | so why can't you file a disclaimer? |
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| 04:37.17 | bkw_ | oh that means we close out everything and anything you post on the bug tracker.. which is sad. :( |
| 04:37.28 | bkw_ | unless its a bug |
| 04:37.32 | cursor | I don't have the authority to do so |
| 04:37.33 | bkw_ | but all patches are hopeless |
| 04:37.37 | cursor | They're all bugs |
| 04:37.42 | bkw_ | cursor what bug number? |
| 04:37.43 | cursor | and all have patches |
| 04:37.52 | pfn | cursor why? you didn't write the patches? |
| 04:38.07 | cursor | I did write them |
| 04:38.19 | pfn | spent company time writing them, did ya |
| 04:38.19 | bkw_ | you dont have the authority to allow digium to use them? |
| 04:38.20 | pfn | shame on you :p |
| 04:38.21 | cursor | I patched the system because I wanted it fixed |
| 04:38.27 | slePP | there aren't any bugs in the pastebin :P |
| 04:38.33 | cursor | Digium can use them if they want |
| 04:38.37 | cursor | that's why I posted them |
| 04:38.41 | bkw_ | cursor not without a disclaimer |
| 04:38.50 | cursor | If I didn't want to share then I would have kept them to myself |
| 04:38.53 | cursor | Outstanding |
| 04:38.53 | cursor | ----------- |
| 04:38.53 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.53 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.53 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.53 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.56 | cursor | Accepted into CVS |
| 04:38.58 | cursor | ----------------- |
| 04:38.59 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.01 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.21 | pfn | cursor so why can't you disclaim the work? |
| 04:39.22 | bkw_ | must have been trivial patches on the two that made it |
| 04:39.30 | cursor | They were |
| 04:39.35 | cursor | they all are |
| 04:39.49 | bkw_ | I think this disclaimer thing need to change |
| 04:39.59 | bkw_ | "If you post it on bugs.digium.com its automatically disclaimed" |
| 04:40.23 | |Blaze| | or maybe new features need to be disclaimed rather then bug fixes |
| 04:40.24 | bkw_ | I sent in one disclaimer.. that said "Anything I posted was here by disclaimed" |
| 04:40.25 | pfn | cursor I'm just curious why you can't--job reasons? |
| 04:40.30 | brent21 | This whole mess wouldn't have started without SCO |
| 04:40.32 | cursor | yes |
| 04:40.41 | pfn | indeed |
| 04:40.43 | bkw_ | digium has to watch its ass |
| 04:40.51 | bkw_ | otherwise something gets in and were all fucked |
| 04:41.00 | bkw_ | F U C K E D |
| 04:41.17 | cursor | I run some open source projects and we accept anything given (if sensible etc.) |
| 04:41.31 | cursor | Well, I co-run :-) |
| 04:41.53 | pfn | the same applies to any other product |
| 04:41.55 | brent21 | I always thought if people didn't like the Digium model, Don't use the stuff |
| 04:41.57 | bkw_ | well asterisk is a dual lic. |
| 04:42.03 | pfn | we don't have crazy disclaimer stuff there |
| 04:42.06 | bkw_ | so they have to have a disclaimer onfile |
| 04:42.13 | pfn | no big deal, I use what works, I don't have political motivations |
| 04:42.14 | cursor | I'll just have to set up a website to host my patches |
| 04:42.28 | cursor | possibly under my rtfm.info domain |
| 04:42.51 | bkw_ | you need to talk to mark |
| 04:43.05 | bkw_ | if you put them in the "public domain" then they can go in |
| 04:43.14 | pfn | that's the same as disclaiming the code |
| 04:43.15 | bkw_ | and make sure its clear they are in the public domain |
| 04:43.17 | cursor | I can't do that - policy |
| 04:43.47 | bkw_ | y? |
| 04:43.49 | cursor | We don't release code into the PD because we don't want it in closed source apps |
| 04:43.56 | brent21 | i thought only american corporate policy did this |
| 04:43.59 | axium | lots of projects can operate strictly on GPL |
| 04:44.00 | cursor | Like MS and Apple using BSD code |
| 04:44.14 | cursor | yes - Cursor Software is a GPL company |
| 04:44.20 | axium | asterisk cannot... G.729 is certianly not GPL |
| 04:44.22 | cursor | It's just policy |
| 04:44.30 | cursor | but I'm ok with the Asterisk policy too |
| 04:44.32 | bkw_ | axium asteriks has a dual lic. |
| 04:44.40 | bkw_ | thats the ONLY way we can have g.729 |
| 04:44.45 | cursor | It just means that I have to stop sharing bug fixes |
| 04:44.48 | bkw_ | unless someone was to release one into the public |
| 04:44.49 | axium | that is the core reason... If Digium has other motivations, so be it |
| 04:45.02 | bkw_ | axium digium has ZERO other motives |
| 04:45.03 | bkw_ | trust me |
| 04:45.11 | bkw_ | you should call into the conf call when mark is there |
| 04:45.12 | axium | bkw_: that's the misconepction... it cannot be publicaly released |
| 04:45.25 | axium | G.729 has been awarded at least one patent |
| 04:45.25 | cursor | I don't really care what Digium's plans are |
| 04:45.26 | bkw_ | misconception about what? |
| 04:45.37 | bkw_ | axium that doesn't apply in every country |
| 04:45.39 | bkw_ | NEXT!!! |
| 04:45.43 | cursor | Software patents are not legal in England |
| 04:45.54 | JunK-Y | cursor: really ? |
| 04:45.56 | cursor | yes |
| 04:45.59 | cursor | we are free :-) |
| 04:46.14 | cursor | Otherwise we'd have to check every line of code with a lawyer |
| 04:46.22 | bkw_ | mark himself said asterisk will stay OPEN and FREE |
| 04:46.25 | brent21 | I dont understand, if people have a problems with Digium's motivations (actually there are none, but even if there were) no one is forcing them to use the software.. find something or build something else |
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| 04:46.39 | JunK-Y | bkw_: i hope so ;) |
| 04:46.41 | cursor | I don't have any issues with Digium at all |
| 04:46.50 | axium | i think some people just like to complain |
| 04:46.54 | bkw_ | ya |
| 04:47.00 | bkw_ | cursor I think you need to talk to mark |
| 04:47.04 | axium | i never feed, i just read |
| 04:47.04 | bkw_ | I wanna see your bug fuxes in CVS |
| 04:47.09 | Jufineath | cursor: are you really worried about your patches being put into a closed source product? is the code to them that substantial and asterisk-independent? |
| 04:47.26 | bkw_ | well if he would just disclaim then the it wouldn't be an issue |
| 04:47.27 | pfn | if cursor can't disclaim the code it can't be considered public domain |
| 04:47.47 | cursor | No, the patches are reasonably truivial |
| 04:47.49 | cursor | trivial |
| 04:47.54 | cursor | take a look |
| 04:47.55 | bkw_ | if they are trivial |
| 04:47.59 | bkw_ | then they should go in |
| 04:47.59 | axium | tivial is a jugement call |
| 04:48.01 | Jufineath | i understand... but he said the reason he can't is his policy, and policy can change, especially since he seems to have a controlling interest. |
| 04:48.09 | pfn | then someone can just go and rewrite the patches |
| 04:48.11 | bkw_ | we need to have a peer review of patches that are "trivial" |
| 04:48.11 | cursor | yes, I don't get to draw the line |
| 04:48.43 | bkw_ | I personally get sick of this disclaimer crap on a weekly basis |
| 04:48.43 | Damin | Let me look at the patches. :) |
| 04:49.02 | bkw_ | Damin was there lastnight or was it the night before last when mark was talking about this stuff |
| 04:49.19 | Damin | It was last night.. |
| 04:49.27 | bkw_ | thats right... |
| 04:49.59 | Damin | And he was saying that he is adamant about making sure that Asterisk remain open to retain credibility with the developers community. |
| 04:50.23 | Damin | His model for Asterisk is the same as what MySQL does.. |
| 04:50.28 | Damin | And has done. |
| 04:50.39 | brent21 | Is mark the owner of Digium? |
| 04:50.45 | bkw_ | you could say that |
| 04:50.49 | Damin | One of them.. |
| 04:50.57 | bkw_ | mark is DA man |
| 04:50.58 | bkw_ | haha |
| 04:51.04 | JunK-Y | hehhee |
| 04:51.09 | cursor | Mark == Digium, I think |
| 04:51.15 | bkw_ | for the most part yes |
| 04:51.17 | Damin | First and foremost, Mark is a developer before being a businessman.. |
| 04:51.19 | bkw_ | but digium is an inc |
| 04:51.25 | brent21 | or is there VC behind him that could override what he wants to do |
| 04:51.30 | Damin | cursor: Digium has about 15 employees. |
| 04:51.33 | brent21 | VC companies can get greedy |
| 04:51.48 | JunK-Y | Damin: just 15 ? |
| 04:51.49 | bkw_ | note its GPL it can't be taken out |
| 04:51.53 | Damin | brent21: They have been very very cautious about VC funding and have turned away a lot of offers. |
| 04:51.54 | brent21 | true |
| 04:52.23 | JunK-Y | i thought they were like 100 ;) |
| 04:52.41 | brent21 | I think the growth from when I started working with Asterisk in September 03 to today has gorwn tremendously |
| 04:52.49 | brent21 | gorwn = grown |
| 04:53.09 | bkw_ | ya |
| 04:53.11 | brent21 | It will be interesting to see where * / Digium stands in 5 years.. they sure have a good market/product |
| 04:53.13 | Damin | brent21: It's one of the fastest growing open source communities that I've seen lately. |
| 04:53.18 | brent21 | i'd invest |
| 04:54.18 | brent21 | yeah, i wish I could offer something up that is in need, unfortuantely not that much of a C coder |
| 04:54.33 | bkw_ | brent21 I didn't know C when I started with asterisk back last august |
| 04:54.46 | bkw_ | since then I have picked up alot.. even submited alot of stuff |
| 04:55.12 | brent21 | nice, yeah I ordered a couple of books from Amazon |
| 04:55.20 | Jufineath | he's learned so much c that he's almost at d. |
| 04:55.25 | brent21 | I just need to get through my senior year, and I will have a lot more time to devote to * |
| 04:56.18 | bkw_ | cdr_odbc.c is one of my first things to commit |
| 04:57.11 | brent21 | cool, yeah I need to start doing CDR's in a DB, need to get another box |
| 04:57.35 | cursor | <bkw_> you should call into the conf call when mark is there |
| 04:57.38 | cursor | which conf? |
| 04:57.46 | JunK-Y | bkw_: where do ya study ? |
| 04:57.48 | brent21 | I'd really like to see an Approved Hardware list, however it would be a nightmare for Digium to support/maintain.. all those support calls coming in stating well this is supported |
| 04:57.48 | bkw_ | its usually guest@pbx.bkw.org/996 |
| 04:57.51 | bkw_ | keep that handy |
| 04:57.54 | bkw_ | that is one hopping conf |
| 04:57.58 | cursor | ok |
| 04:57.59 | cursor | thanks |
| 04:58.08 | cursor | IAX2? |
| 04:58.12 | bkw_ | yes |
| 04:58.15 | cursor | ok |
| 04:58.25 | cursor | I'll set up an exten for it |
| 04:58.43 | bkw_ | check it alot from 6pm CST to midnight CST |
| 04:58.53 | cursor | any pin, or is it just open? |
| 04:58.54 | Damin | brent21: It's not digium's responsibility to ensure compatability with anything other than their own hardware. |
| 04:59.09 | Damin | brent21: That is the community's job. |
| 05:01.06 | brent21 | Damin, I understand that |
| 05:01.13 | brc_ | . |
| 05:01.14 | brc_ | ook! |
| 05:02.23 | cursor | <Damin> Let me look at the patches. :) |
| 05:02.26 | cursor | Did you look? |
| 05:02.49 | brent21 | good night all |
| 05:02.56 | cursor | night |
| 05:03.15 | Damin | cursor: No. |
| 05:03.48 | cursor | ok |
| 05:04.02 | cursor | I was looking for a "trivial" judgement call |
| 05:04.04 | cursor | :-) |
| 05:04.28 | cursor | The important ones are the transfers |
| 05:04.39 | cursor | the others are even more trivial |
| 05:05.03 | cursor | We're happy here because this system has the patches :-) |
| 05:05.19 | cursor | If Asterisk gets replacement patches later then that's fine too |
| 05:05.24 | cursor | We'll switch |
| 05:05.50 | cursor | But it just seems like a waste of time to me |
| 05:06.04 | cursor | Anyway, I'll shut up now :-) |
| 05:08.26 | JunK-Y | i'll goto bed soon |
| 05:08.39 | cursor | Sleep is for the weak |
| 05:08.41 | cursor | :-) |
| 05:08.59 | JunK-Y | heheh i've sleep from 20h30 to 0h00 |
| 05:09.04 | cursor | 6:08am - the start of a brand new day |
| 05:09.16 | JunK-Y | woke up an hour ago |
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| 05:10.19 | Jufineath | charlottesville, va? |
| 05:11.04 | litnimax | gcc -O2 -g -Iinclude -I../include -c -o app_txfax.o app_txfax.c |
| 05:11.04 | litnimax | In file included from app_txfax.c:14: |
| 05:11.04 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h: In function `ast_mutex_init': |
| 05:11.04 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h:300: `PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 05:11.04 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h:300: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 05:11.07 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h:300: for each function it appears in.) |
| 05:11.09 | litnimax | make[1]: *** [app_txfax.o] Error 1 |
| 05:11.11 | litnimax | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/aster/asterisk/asterisk/apps' |
| 05:11.13 | litnimax | make: *** [subdirs] Error 1 |
| 05:11.15 | litnimax | help pls |
| 05:12.10 | cursor | the app probably wants an update |
| 05:12.23 | cursor | match the app with your Asterisk version |
| 05:12.36 | cursor | update one or the other |
| 05:12.37 | cursor | or both |
| 05:13.00 | cursor | It's probably your Asterisk that is out of date |
| 05:13.06 | litnimax | --- Makefile.orig2004-03-16 22:36:31.000000000 +0800 |
| 05:13.07 | litnimax | +++ Makefile2004-03-16 22:14:09.000000000 +0800 |
| 05:13.14 | litnimax | what this could be * version? |
| 05:13.16 | sudhir492 | Is there a way to increase the max number of voicemail messages that a mailbox can have? |
| 05:13.19 | litnimax | in this time |
| 05:13.28 | cursor | That's a Makefile version :-) |
| 05:13.29 | sudhir492 | right now it is 100 |
| 05:13.33 | cursor | Most projects have a Makefile |
| 05:13.39 | cursor | It could be anything |
| 05:13.42 | litnimax | i know that it is Makefile |
| 05:13.44 | litnimax | vrsion |
| 05:13.52 | brc_ | beeeeeeeep |
| 05:13.56 | litnimax | i have to guess what * version does it expect |
| 05:14.14 | cursor | get the latest Asterisk from CVS and start from there |
| 05:14.22 | litnimax | this is spandsp app |
| 05:14.26 | cursor | then if the app doesn't work then you can complain to the author |
| 05:14.28 | litnimax | i have latest cvs version |
| 05:14.32 | cursor | or submit a patch |
| 05:14.47 | cursor | ok |
| 05:14.55 | cursor | then the app needs an update |
| 05:15.02 | cursor | I don't have the app, so I can't really tell from here |
| 05:16.24 | cursor | ../include/asterisk/lock.h:300: `PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE' undeclared |
| 05:16.32 | cursor | The latest Asterisk version doesn't have that on line 300 |
| 05:16.39 | cursor | It has this: |
| 05:16.39 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.46 | *** join/#asterisk Corydon76-home (four@pcp08665860pcs.500ash01.tn.comcast.net) |
| 05:18.00 | cursor | ah |
| 05:18.04 | cursor | #define AST_MUTEX_KIND PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE_NP |
| 05:18.06 | cursor | and |
| 05:18.44 | cursor | #define PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE_NP PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE |
| 05:18.55 | cursor | Are you using an Apple? |
| 05:18.57 | bkw_ | -D_GNU_SOURCE |
| 05:20.44 | litnimax | Linux |
| 05:20.49 | litnimax | i searched googlw |
| 05:20.52 | litnimax | no use |
| 05:21.14 | cursor | Which OS/Distro do you have? |
| 05:21.19 | litnimax | red hat 9 |
| 05:21.26 | cursor | ok |
| 05:21.31 | cursor | Do as bkw_ said |
| 05:21.44 | litnimax | did already |
| 05:21.44 | cursor | <bkw_> -D_GNU_SOURCE |
| 05:22.05 | cursor | Where can I find the src to the app? |
| 05:22.29 | litnimax | ftp://ftp.opencall.org/pub/spandsp/ |
| 05:22.47 | litnimax | gcc -O2 -g -Iinclude -I../include -c -o app_txfax.o app_txfax.c |
| 05:22.48 | litnimax | In file included from app_txfax.c:14: |
| 05:22.48 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h: In function `ast_mutex_init': |
| 05:22.48 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h:300: `PTHREAD_MUTEX_RECURSIVE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 05:22.48 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h:300: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 05:22.48 | litnimax | ../include/asterisk/lock.h:300: for each function it appears in.) |
| 05:22.51 | litnimax | make[1]: *** [app_txfax.o] Error 1 |
| 05:22.52 | litnimax | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/aster/asterisk/asterisk/apps' |
| 05:22.54 | litnimax | make: *** [subdirs] Error 1 |
| 05:22.56 | bkw_ | -D_GNU_SOURCE |
| 05:23.06 | bkw_ | GOD DAMN this has been covered on the mailing list 1000000 times |
| 05:23.27 | litnimax | ok moment |
| 05:23.35 | cursor | yes - Add that src define to the CFLAGS |
| 05:23.35 | litnimax | i will try to define it in lock.h |
| 05:23.39 | cursor | no |
| 05:23.40 | litnimax | not in export CFLAGS |
| 05:23.41 | cursor | noooo |
| 05:23.50 | cursor | Put it in the Makefile ;-) |
| 05:24.25 | litnimax | ha |
| 05:24.32 | litnimax | only when put in lock.h |
| 05:24.35 | litnimax | it owrked |
| 05:24.38 | litnimax | worked |
| 05:24.52 | cursor | ok |
| 05:25.04 | litnimax | before i put it in makefile and no use |
| 05:25.09 | cursor | As long as you're happy :-) |
| 05:25.09 | brc_ | bkw_, wikiize it please |
| 05:25.15 | JunK-Y | who wants grape juice in tha house ? :) |
| 05:27.06 | cursor | me |
| 05:27.20 | Moc_ | Hi all |
| 05:27.27 | cursor | lo |
| 05:28.12 | JunK-Y | later twisted |
| 05:28.31 | Moc_ | going to do the same here.. I might get fired tomorow ;) |
| 05:29.47 | menger | Moc_: what did you do? |
| 05:29.55 | JunK-Y | Moc_: huh? |
| 05:32.04 | cursor | ~fire Moc_ |
| 05:32.07 | jbot | I'm sorry, Moc_, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 05:32.16 | JunK-Y | cursor: mouhahaha |
| 05:32.33 | JunK-Y | im making no joke about this, that can occurs to everyone. |
| 05:33.37 | *** join/#asterisk sivana (~richard@209.91.159.221) |
| 05:34.29 | gryn | what's up. |
| 05:34.59 | JunK-Y | sky. |
| 05:35.08 | sivana | planets. |
| 05:35.12 | JunK-Y | sun. |
| 05:35.15 | cursor | clouds |
| 05:35.21 | sivana | comets. |
| 05:35.33 | cursor | England - if you're in Australia |
| 05:35.55 | *** part/#asterisk PilotPTK-Home (~trillian@pcp02587377pcs.shlb1201.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:35.56 | jmhunter | mmm grape juice |
| 05:36.00 | sivana | everyone - if you're in antarctica |
| 05:36.02 | JunK-Y | australia - if ur in England :P |
| 05:36.20 | cursor | :-) |
| 05:36.25 | JunK-Y | jmhunter: wanna some ? hurry up, im drinking like hell |
| 05:36.26 | JunK-Y | hehhee |
| 05:36.32 | gryn | jmhunter: did your patch get in yet? I wrote one for the digit timeout in features that got in. why aren't they taking yours? |
| 05:36.40 | cursor | http://www.opencall.org/patents/x29.html |
| 05:37.57 | bkw_ | accually coppice would know |
| 05:38.07 | sivana | anyone successfully using a calling card app? |
| 05:38.11 | cursor | Algorithms cannot be patented in the UK |
| 05:38.16 | cursor | They are classed as mathematics |
| 05:38.31 | cursor | In fact, you can only patent tangible items |
| 05:38.54 | cursor | It used to be required that you give a demonstration of your invention before a patent was required |
| 05:39.10 | cursor | If you just drew it on a blackboard then that was unacceptable |
| 05:39.40 | cursor | So Software, algorithms, business practices, ideas, DNA etc. are all not patentable in the UK |
| 05:39.52 | bkw_ | all of which shouldn't be something you can patent in the US |
| 05:40.01 | cursor | Not unless the muppets in Europe make it so |
| 05:40.05 | JunK-Y | cursor: do ya cant have patents about bio-genetics and stuff like this ? |
| 05:40.06 | *** join/#asterisk Beave (~beave@jack.vistech.org) |
| 05:40.11 | Beave | hello all. |
| 05:40.40 | cursor | You can patent the machinery used to make a drug |
| 05:40.52 | cursor | But you can;t patent a formula |
| 05:41.02 | cursor | It's protected by copyright anyway |
| 05:41.15 | cursor | So anyone who copies the formula gets a kick in the arse |
| 05:41.21 | JunK-Y | do ya've a lot of bio-pharmaceutic company ? |
| 05:41.30 | cursor | Quite a lot |
| 05:41.40 | cursor | Beechams |
| 05:41.49 | Beave | .. |
| 05:42.07 | *** join/#asterisk clive- (~pirch@myw-stp-66-18-86-182.sentechsa.net) |
| 05:42.11 | cursor | Jonson & Jonson |
| 05:42.29 | *** join/#asterisk Beave (~beave@jack.vistech.org) |
| 05:42.35 | cursor | Software and algorithms are definately not patentable |
| 05:42.45 | cursor | Not yet |
| 05:42.48 | sivana | what about potions |
| 05:42.55 | sivana | like magic potions |
| 05:43.06 | cursor | Some of the large international companies are trying to change that |
| 05:43.21 | brc_ | how much is CallerIDName service on a PRI usually cost a month? |
| 05:43.24 | JunK-Y | johnson and johnson, didnt know they were in UK. |
| 05:43.29 | brc_ | $50?.....$200?... |
| 05:43.42 | cursor | But they're facing fierce opposition - mostly from Open Source groups |
| 05:43.46 | gryn | 70 here :( |
| 05:44.12 | sivana | does the callerid get sent from *? |
| 05:44.22 | gryn | that's different. |
| 05:44.31 | gryn | this is 70$ incoming. |
| 05:44.32 | Beave | I'm running the patched festival (1.4.3) with CVS 06/22/04 and I can't get the damn thing working. I keep "Festival returned ER". Anyone have any good pointers/docs/refs? |
| 05:44.44 | sivana | when you're using a PRI.. do you get to set the callerid that everyone else sees? |
| 05:45.22 | gryn | sivana: yes. but some providers can filter what you are allowed to set. |
| 05:45.28 | sivana | I see |
| 05:45.30 | Beave | sivana: Depends on who give you the PRI (from what I understand). I've never been able to do it with Sprint. |
| 05:45.54 | sivana | ok |
| 05:45.57 | gryn | sivana: cbeyond let's us set it to domino's if we want to. |
| 05:46.11 | gryn | (of coures i'm sure it's probably illegal to do so). |
| 05:46.29 | sivana | hrm.. are there guidelines to what you can set it to? |
| 05:46.55 | gryn | sivana: how about your own names and numbers? common sense? :P |
| 05:47.03 | sivana | :) |
| 05:47.41 | cursor | Test with this: |
| 05:47.41 | cursor | (202) 456 1414 |
| 05:47.55 | cursor | I'm sure George Dubbya won't mind |
| 05:48.59 | cursor | If he does then he'll let you know with a little note |
| 05:49.04 | Beave | no festival people. dang. |
| 05:49.04 | cursor | attached to a large cruise missile |
| 05:50.11 | gryn | i get too depressed even thinking about that... |
| 05:50.51 | cursor | :-) |
| 05:56.38 | sudhir492 | cursor: did you say that call '#' call transfer works for you |
| 05:57.28 | cursor | yes |
| 05:57.43 | cursor | Well, not any longer because I disabled it |
| 05:58.03 | cursor | But if I was to add it back as a Dial() arg then I'm sure it'd still work |
| 05:58.27 | Beave | ah! |
| 05:59.30 | cursor | The 2.6.8 kernel should be out soon |
| 05:59.35 | Beave | ok - so the default /etc/asterisk/festival.conf was tweaked. I commented out usecache/cachedir/festivalcommand (noticed that app_festival.c check for this/set it anyways). |
| 06:07.32 | atacomm | gosh, the company that sent me a cease and desist for the name Atacomm today........ (They go by @COMM or AT COMM), they filed for bankrupcy in 2001 after taking in 5 million in 2000 and losing 26 million |
| 06:10.15 | slePP | http://news.uns.purdue.edu/hp/Bertoline.Thomson.html |
| 06:10.17 | slePP | i want that. |
| 06:10.25 | Beave | Aug 3 02:10:03 NOTICE[770066]: chan_iax2.c:2246 iax2_read: I should never be called! |
| 06:10.27 | Beave | nice. |
| 06:10.34 | slePP | atacomm: nice. does that give them any right to the name? :> |
| 06:10.38 | JunK-Y | y0 slePP |
| 06:10.42 | slePP | btw, can i hav e 5 SPA-2000's for $200? :> |
| 06:10.49 | slePP | lo junky |
| 06:10.54 | atacomm | slePP....god I wish I could get this resolved.... |
| 06:11.03 | JunK-Y | how are ya ? |
| 06:11.10 | atacomm | lol, well i do have a stack of returned SPA-2000s that I'm looking at selling as-is |
| 06:11.27 | slePP | oh? |
| 06:11.31 | slePP | really? why're they returned? :> |
| 06:11.39 | slePP | JunK-Y: not bad. waiting for the stove so i can cook dinner :> |
| 06:11.41 | sudhir492 | cursor: I just tried with sipura also. Here is what I am getting. If I set ATA to send dtmf as SIP info, call transfer does not work, but the digits including '#' for IVR work fine. On the other hand, if I set send dtmf as 'audio', transfer works fine but the digits are not recognized properly for IVR |
| 06:11.55 | slePP | atacomm: and as for getting it resolved, i think that if they're bankrupt and out.. do you do similar business or no? |
| 06:11.59 | JunK-Y | slePP: i wanna c screen like taht :) |
| 06:12.04 | slePP | JunK-Y: me too :> |
| 06:12.04 | atacomm | slepp: various reasons, we've never gotten around to testing them out, some dont have power supplies |
| 06:12.11 | atacomm | slepp: www.atcomm.com vs www.atacomm.com |
| 06:12.24 | slePP | domain names. oh well. company name though? |
| 06:13.05 | clive- | I am curious about 2B transfer...has anyone done this in asterisk ? |
| 06:13.13 | atacomm | ours is Atacomm, they have At Comm, but they have a trademark on @COMM (Not ATCOMM, because ATCOM is trademarked by someone else, heh) |
| 06:13.20 | slePP | nice |
| 06:13.23 | slePP | so then atacomm should be fine |
| 06:13.37 | slePP | since atcom already exists, and they can't have atcom |
| 06:13.41 | slePP | er. atcomm |
| 06:13.45 | slePP | so atacomm is fine too :> |
| 06:13.48 | atacomm | slepp: I dunno, they sure are putting the pressure on, I'm hoping the fact that ATCOM exists and they dont have ATCOMM that i'm fine |
| 06:14.00 | slePP | shouldn't be too hard to win out. |
| 06:14.08 | atacomm | it doesnt help i'm in another lawsuit from last week, i dont do that much business, lol..... |
| 06:14.08 | slePP | if asked, explain yours stands for something |
| 06:14.10 | *** part/#asterisk Kumbang (~kumbang@167.205.22.54) |
| 06:14.12 | atacomm | it does too |
| 06:14.18 | slePP | as opposed to theirs, which doesn't |
| 06:14.29 | slePP | and that means something, when it can be ATAComm |
| 06:14.31 | atacomm | Ataractic Corporation is our corporate name, Ata Comm |
| 06:14.57 | slePP | yeh, i think you'll do fine |
| 06:15.08 | slePP | it's obvious you're not going in to steal business based on the name |
| 06:15.15 | slePP | and because they lost whacks of money, you probably didn't steal their business :> |
| 06:15.25 | atacomm | infact, the USPTO is asking us to tell them why they should let us have a trademark.... all the examples they stated were like ATA Engineering and ATA Technology.... i was like no no no, one word, one word, not letters/abbrviations |
| 06:15.31 | atacomm | they lost it before we started |
| 06:15.39 | slePP | yeh |
| 06:15.50 | slePP | Atacomm |
| 06:15.58 | slePP | not At Comm |
| 06:16.02 | slePP | or @COMM |
| 06:16.03 | slePP | :> |
| 06:16.05 | *** join/#asterisk DrRighteous (~poll49@ool-435717de.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:16.26 | atacomm | reminds me of SCO, grr |
| 06:17.14 | atacomm | Atacomm being sued... please buy from Atacomm to protest corporate america and the USPTO's poor laws and shit |
| 06:17.27 | JunK-Y | later guys. |
| 06:17.31 | atacomm | yup, later |
| 06:17.38 | DrRighteous | being sued over what atacomm? |
| 06:17.58 | JunK-Y | good luck with ur lawsuit atacomm. |
| 06:18.04 | atacomm | thanks junk |
| 06:18.44 | atacomm | drR: trademark.... not sued yet, but threated.... then we are also being sued over merchandise a customer couldnt figure out....$7500 for the merchandise, $2000 for their tech, and $40,000 for their lost business due to dropped calls |
| 06:19.07 | slePP | will that help? |
| 06:19.24 | atacomm | lol |
| 06:19.34 | clive- | wow, americans seem to love suiing |
| 06:19.39 | DrRighteous | atacomm: did you simply sell hardware, or also offer a service with it? |
| 06:19.49 | clive- | thats crazy,,,the guy couldnt get the phone to work, so he sues you? |
| 06:19.50 | atacomm | DrR: just sell hardware |
| 06:20.19 | DrRighteous | the customer already knew the hardware to buy, or asked advice on which hardware to purchase |
| 06:21.29 | atacomm | asked what to buy for a complete system........ hired a MS certified tech to put the system together..... never got it working right...... |
| 06:21.53 | slePP | user error isn't your fault |
| 06:21.56 | DrRighteous | hmm, only opening to liability is the fact that you reconmended the config |
| 06:22.08 | slePP | but they hired an outside tech to set it up |
| 06:22.09 | DrRighteous | has the same config worked for other customers? |
| 06:22.12 | slePP | it is thereby the tech's fault |
| 06:22.23 | atacomm | sure it has |
| 06:22.47 | cursor | atcom.com - Record created on 18-Mar-1998. |
| 06:22.51 | cursor | atacom.com - Record created on 26-Feb-1998. |
| 06:22.55 | cursor | Looks like you win |
| 06:23.06 | slePP | er |
| 06:23.10 | slePP | he's atacomm.com |
| 06:23.12 | slePP | isn't he? |
| 06:23.15 | atacomm | yeah, atacomm.com |
| 06:23.20 | cursor | right |
| 06:23.28 | cursor | oh |
| 06:23.28 | atacomm | there is an atacom too, lol |
| 06:23.49 | DrRighteous | atacomm if you want I can talk to you tomorrow voice. I have a great deal of legal experience and training and might be able to help. |
| 06:24.19 | slePP | atacomm didn't exist until 2001 |
| 06:24.41 | cursor | There's an atcomm.com too :-) |
| 06:24.45 | slePP | heh |
| 06:24.46 | JunK-Y | wireless IP phone, pretty cool. |
| 06:24.52 | atacomm | yeah, atcomm.com is the company thats mad at me |
| 06:24.58 | cursor | ata+com+.com |
| 06:25.07 | slePP | Ataractic corp |
| 06:25.08 | cursor | no |
| 06:25.22 | slePP | ata?com+\.com |
| 06:25.24 | cursor | ata?comm?.com |
| 06:25.34 | slePP | escape yer . ;> |
| 06:25.35 | cursor | yes - with a \ |
| 06:26.11 | atacomm | lol |
| 06:26.17 | cursor | atcomms.com |
| 06:26.46 | cursor | tacom.com :-) |
| 06:27.00 | cursor | Not to mention all of the .net and .org etc. |
| 06:27.38 | cursor | Perhaps you lot should all get together to sue the muppet :-) |
| 06:27.53 | atacomm | lol, it would be interesting |
| 06:28.12 | slePP | yeh |
| 06:28.15 | slePP | class actions go a long way :> |
| 06:28.28 | hmodes | blarghen |
| 06:28.28 | atacomm | i am hesitant to bring anything up with similar named companies |
| 06:28.42 | cursor | atscom.com |
| 06:28.51 | slePP | well, keep in mind, it's likely those other companies have also been contacted |
| 06:28.55 | slePP | there isn't a good reason to single you out |
| 06:29.04 | cursor | hatcom.com :-) |
| 06:29.06 | cursor | It's endless |
| 06:29.18 | slePP | since atcom.com is a larger threat |
| 06:29.30 | atacomm | well, except we for sure do telcom, atacom.com does computer products |
| 06:29.33 | cursor | Did they buy something from you that got lost in the post? :-) |
| 06:29.41 | cursor | or did you prank call using their # |
| 06:29.43 | cursor | haha |
| 06:29.51 | atacomm | atcom does have a trademark ...... whereas AT COMM only has a trademark on @COMM |
| 06:29.56 | slePP | yeh |
| 06:30.04 | cursor | Trademarks only apply to the trademark |
| 06:30.08 | slePP | atcomm is @Comm Corporation |
| 06:30.10 | cursor | not to anything else |
| 06:30.17 | cursor | unless you're trying to impersonate |
| 06:30.26 | slePP | a subsidiary of Xiox |
| 06:30.30 | atacomm | i still cant beleive they grossed 5 million in 2000 and lost 26 million |
| 06:30.32 | cursor | What's the legal term for that? |
| 06:30.35 | *** join/#asterisk NeonLevel (~neonlevel@dsl-200-78-104-198.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
| 06:30.35 | cursor | Pass off |
| 06:30.44 | cursor | Tell them to pass off :-) |
| 06:31.21 | atacomm | Cursor: they are @COMM CORP, with atcomm.com. They have the trademark on @COMM (2646202) but none at AT COMM |
| 06:31.24 | sudhir492 | Is there a way to have asterisk transfer on '*' rather than '#' |
| 06:31.28 | cursor | bah! |
| 06:31.37 | slePP | atacomm: be sure to point all that out. show that their domain is the only reference to At Comm |
| 06:31.49 | sudhir492 | or better still, a combination or * and # |
| 06:31.50 | cursor | sue for damages :-) |
| 06:32.14 | atacomm | well, that and their stock symbol and their state of California registration..... everything else uses @COMM, and they cant tell me i'm violating their trademark if its 3 letters different |
| 06:32.29 | slePP | and looks nothing alike? |
| 06:32.31 | slePP | :> |
| 06:32.34 | cursor | cursor.org |
| 06:32.38 | atacomm | look up ATCM.PK on Nasdaq |
| 06:32.44 | slePP | a trademark on * doesn't mean you're no entitled to 'star' |
| 06:32.47 | slePP | and all derivatives |
| 06:32.51 | atacomm | i want to buy millions of shares |
| 06:33.02 | slePP | but they lost 26 mil |
| 06:33.35 | cursor | atacom.net is an Italian company :-) |
| 06:33.35 | atacomm | it was pulled off nasdaq... its last price was 0.001 per share |
| 06:33.40 | cursor | They can't go after them |
| 06:33.47 | slePP | nice |
| 06:33.55 | slePP | quick! go offshore! |
| 06:34.02 | cursor | swim |
| 06:34.03 | atacomm | heh |
| 06:34.20 | atacomm | you know, @COMM has employees helping on one of the Asterisk open documentation projects |
| 06:34.42 | slePP | heh |
| 06:34.46 | slePP | conflict of interest! fire them all! |
| 06:34.47 | slePP | :> |
| 06:34.49 | cursor | so they are comm.com? |
| 06:34.52 | slePP | k, i gotta go heck on my pizza. |
| 06:35.08 | cursor | with their COMM trademark? |
| 06:35.42 | slePP | they're gonna sue people that use @comm* in their e-mails |
| 06:35.48 | cursor | Perhaps they should go after comm.com |
| 06:35.51 | cursor | and comm.net etc. |
| 06:35.58 | slePP | since comm.com isn't them, @comm.com would be a direct violation of copyright |
| 06:35.59 | cursor | They don't seem to own any of those |
| 06:35.59 | slePP | fucking idiots. |
| 06:36.24 | cursor | http://www.cursor.biz/toys/whois.html?domain=comm |
| 06:37.06 | cursor | Perhaps even two fingers, if I feel generous |
| 06:37.27 | atacomm | anyone think i have a legal chance? |
| 06:37.35 | cursor | You would in the UK |
| 06:37.42 | cursor | Justice is expensive in the USA |
| 06:37.52 | cursor | the one with the most money wins |
| 06:37.59 | atacomm | if they are going thru chapter 11 do they have much money to spare? |
| 06:38.05 | cursor | and the winner doesn't automatically get legal costs back |
| 06:38.21 | cursor | Buy them a bigger book |
| 06:38.28 | cursor | The Sendmail book has more chapters |
| 06:38.35 | cursor | It'll buy you time :-) |
| 06:38.56 | slePP | you have right to the name that they can't claim, just because their dns is translates |
| 06:39.04 | atacomm | lol, well they filed in 2001 for chapt 11, so i dont know if they are out or not..... |
| 06:39.08 | cursor | file a counter claim, so at least you get damages when you win |
| 06:39.20 | cursor | what is chapter 11? |
| 06:39.21 | atacomm | how do i file a counter claim? lol |
| 06:39.33 | atacomm | chapter 11........ bankruptcy protection, restructuring of the company |
| 06:39.40 | atacomm | they lost $26 mill the previous year |
| 06:39.44 | cursor | file a suit alleging nucience |
| 06:40.00 | cursor | loss of business while fighting the case |
| 06:40.01 | atacomm | hell, Nasdaq kicked them off the stock market this spring |
| 06:40.04 | cursor | expenses fighting |
| 06:40.07 | cursor | good will |
| 06:40.09 | cursor | etc. |
| 06:40.23 | cursor | Or just play for time |
| 06:40.32 | cursor | Perhaps they'll go away if they're in trouble |
| 06:40.49 | cursor | you never know - they might have sent a letter to everyone with a .com |
| 06:40.54 | atacomm | they havent updated their website since january 03 |
| 06:41.51 | cursor | I'm sure I've bought something from you... |
| 06:41.56 | cursor | I just can't think what it was |
| 06:42.04 | cursor | I recognise the website |
| 06:42.11 | atacomm | lol |
| 06:43.02 | cursor | Can't find anything |
| 06:43.05 | cursor | I'm sure I did |
| 06:43.10 | cursor | Perhaps it was my Sipura |
| 06:43.13 | cursor | yes |
| 06:43.15 | cursor | I think it was |
| 06:43.16 | atacomm | if you did it would be from no-reply@resv.net |
| 06:43.20 | cursor | The one at home |
| 06:43.29 | *** join/#asterisk olegzzz (~sysoleg@bigfoot-gw.progtech.ru) |
| 06:44.21 | cursor | I don't keep email receipts for long, which is probably why I can't find you in that mailbox |
| 06:44.27 | cursor | Unless I misfiled it |
| 06:44.44 | cursor | Ah well |
| 06:44.49 | cursor | I'll let you know if I find it |
| 06:44.58 | cursor | When I find it :-) |
| 06:47.20 | libpcp | anyone knows a site where i could create a sound file for my ivr? i know a site before and its free but i already forgot the site |
| 06:49.03 | gryn | libpcp: just record it on the phone |
| 06:50.45 | gryn | libpcp: http://pastebin.ca/435 |
| 06:51.16 | gryn | Just goto(record-menu,s,1), |
| 06:51.28 | gryn | then press 1-7 on your phone to record sounds. |
| 06:52.24 | gryn | You can press 8 to switch to 'playback mode', then pressing 1-7 plays back the recorded sounds. |
| 06:52.33 | gryn | Pressing 9 switches back to 'record mode'. |
| 06:52.41 | gryn | Easy as pie. |
| 06:53.26 | *** join/#asterisk lele (~lele@rivendell.windmill.it) |
| 06:53.29 | libpcp | gryn: the problem is my voice, my voice is something like a dog barking :) |
| 06:54.00 | libpcp | gryn: how about text to speech, i have here festival but the sound is something like a robot |
| 06:54.04 | gryn | libpcp: ok well then: http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=thevoice |
| 06:54.17 | cursor | I have this exten: http://pastebin.ca/436 |
| 06:54.19 | gryn | libpcp: that's pretty cheap voice work right there. |
| 06:54.31 | cursor | It'll record a sound and then play it back |
| 06:54.38 | cursor | keep redialling until you're happy |
| 06:54.43 | cursor | and then move the sound file somewhere |
| 06:54.48 | gryn | cursor: i like mine better :) |
| 06:54.53 | cursor | :-) |
| 06:55.04 | gryn | cursor: let's me build the whole menu at once. |
| 06:55.21 | cursor | right |
| 06:55.30 | cursor | I don't have any menus :-) |
| 06:55.37 | gryn | libpcp: it's better to have a dog-bark voice up there than a computer generated one. |
| 06:56.05 | cursor | My cat records all of my prompts |
| 06:56.10 | gryn | cursor: :P |
| 06:56.12 | cursor | Sounds better than a dog |
| 06:57.31 | gryn | cursor: ugh i feel awful, had about 5 hours of sleep after staying up till 8am yesterday. |
| 06:57.43 | gryn | cursor: and now it's 2am. and i have this nasty headache from it. |
| 06:57.49 | cursor | Lightweight :-) |
| 06:58.04 | gryn | cursor: all for a stupid online game! blah! |
| 06:58.27 | gryn | glad i play on a friends computer, or else it'd be every night like that. |
| 06:58.37 | cursor | grin |
| 06:58.56 | gryn | of course there is always nethack.... |
| 06:59.12 | cursor | I've not played that |
| 06:59.28 | gryn | heh it's got a big learning curve, but it's pretty addictive. |
| 06:59.41 | cursor | I've played hack |
| 06:59.46 | cursor | just not nethack |
| 06:59.51 | cursor | It's probably similar |
| 07:00.00 | gryn | er... trying to think. |
| 07:00.08 | libpcp | :) |
| 07:00.10 | gryn | no i think hack is a different sort of game. |
| 07:00.15 | cursor | Although I haven't played that in years |
| 07:00.15 | libpcp | can i have your cat |
| 07:00.31 | cursor | That's my laptop |
| 07:00.35 | gryn | gryn: i'm thinking of games along the lines of moria and rogue. |
| 07:01.17 | gryn | libpcp: use that context i sent you and record yourself some prompts. if you don't like it, then go buy the prompts from digium. |
| 07:01.43 | cursor | haha |
| 07:01.51 | cursor | I just found an old email from someone at netcom.com :-) |
| 07:02.04 | libpcp | okay ill do it :) |
| 07:02.05 | cursor | There's another com.com |
| 07:02.18 | gryn | who else? |
| 07:02.22 | gryn | libpcp: good luck! :) |
| 07:02.45 | gryn | worldcom, that's mci. |
| 07:04.19 | brc_ | how do cisco 7905 bitmap values work exactly? |
| 07:04.45 | gryn | brc_: what bitmaps? |
| 07:04.54 | cursor | I know how the 7960 BMs work |
| 07:05.13 | gryn | they grayscale it down to 3 colors, hilarious. |
| 07:05.19 | brc_ | I mean the config files |
| 07:05.23 | gryn | bedtime. |
| 07:05.26 | cursor | 4 colours |
| 07:05.32 | brc_ | trying to turn 'silent suppression' OFF |
| 07:05.37 | cursor | black, white and two greys |
| 07:05.47 | cursor | vad_enable |
| 07:05.50 | cursor | I think |
| 07:05.52 | brc_ | nope |
| 07:05.54 | brc_ | that's for 7960 |
| 07:05.57 | cursor | ah |
| 07:05.59 | brc_ | 05's are totally different |
| 07:06.00 | brc_ | they suck |
| 07:06.08 | cursor | Throw it in the bin |
| 07:06.12 | cursor | or post it to me |
| 07:06.17 | brc_ | k |
| 07:06.22 | cursor | haha |
| 07:06.31 | cursor | All donations greatfully received |
| 07:06.38 | gryn | cursor: only one grey here. |
| 07:06.39 | cursor | But entirely undeserved |
| 07:06.51 | brc_ | http://pastebin.ca/437 |
| 07:06.56 | brc_ | haha |
| 07:07.00 | brc_ | nevermind I'll figure it out |
| 07:07.03 | cursor | I get 2 greys |
| 07:07.10 | brc_ | ghey grey? |
| 07:07.14 | cursor | in the Cursor logo on my 7960 |
| 07:07.40 | atacomm | with machine guns? |
| 07:07.45 | cursor | aligators |
| 07:07.49 | gryn | cursor: you must have a super 7960. |
| 07:07.56 | brc_ | atacomm, who is sue'en you?? |
| 07:08.07 | cursor | yes - it's a 7960GS |
| 07:08.13 | cursor | 7960G (super edition) |
| 07:08.14 | gryn | cursor: well see. |
| 07:08.19 | gryn | never said that. |
| 07:08.22 | brc_ | btw...cisco's site sux |
| 07:08.30 | brc_ | impossible to find the right docs |
| 07:08.32 | gryn | i have the regular 7960, but i have 10 of them :) |
| 07:08.36 | gryn | er 8. |
| 07:08.40 | gryn | can't count. |
| 07:09.28 | gryn | i would have made it 0-negotiated, 1-inband, 2-out of band. |
| 07:09.58 | brc_ | huh? |
| 07:10.01 | cursor | for DTMF? |
| 07:10.06 | gryn | brc_: the dtmf |
| 07:10.14 | brc_ | yeah...but are you talking to me? |
| 07:10.18 | gryn | that order would make sese. |
| 07:10.20 | cursor | You can't negotiate DTMF |
| 07:10.32 | cursor | Otherwise there'd be no option |
| 07:10.34 | gryn | brc_: yeah, cause you paste bin'd it :) |
| 07:10.44 | gryn | cursor: it says there is an option. |
| 07:10.45 | cursor | everything would default to OOB and negotiate from there |
| 07:10.48 | brc_ | yeah but dtmf works...I'm trying to get VAD turned off |
| 07:11.09 | gryn | brc_: i'm saying if i design the spec. i would order it that way. |
| 07:11.12 | cursor | vad=bad |
| 07:11.33 | brc_ | AudioMode:0x00000021 doesn't work |
| 07:11.40 | cursor | That's why Darth VADer sounds the way he does |
| 07:11.47 | brc_ | cursor, that is for a 7960 |
| 07:11.54 | brc_ | er |
| 07:11.57 | brc_ | doh nevermind :p |
| 07:12.00 | gryn | 16+4+1 sholudn't work. |
| 07:12.22 | brc_ | anyway yes vad is bad... |
| 07:12.36 | cursor | You wouldn't make a good Blackjack dealer |
| 07:13.01 | gryn | cursor: Blackjack dealers have to hold on 16. |
| 07:13.05 | cursor | 17 |
| 07:13.09 | gryn | or 17. |
| 07:13.13 | gryn | heh |
| 07:13.27 | gryn | in anycase that means 16+4+1 wouldn't work :) |
| 07:13.33 | cursor | I only know because I wrote a blackjack module for the SlimServer jukebox |
| 07:13.38 | gryn | heh |
| 07:14.02 | cursor | and it's GPLed, of course, so feel free to download it :-) |
| 07:14.06 | gryn | brc_: try 0x17 that makes more sense. |
| 07:14.28 | gryn | cursor: blackjack is the best game to play at casinos if you don't mind thinking. |
| 07:14.34 | brc_ | 0x17?...uhm |
| 07:14.37 | brc_ | uhm |
| 07:14.38 | gryn | cursor: gives you the closest to 50% odds. |
| 07:14.40 | cursor | I've never been to a casino |
| 07:14.41 | brc_ | that doesn't make sense |
| 07:14.45 | brc_ | unless I'm stupid as to how this works |
| 07:14.53 | gryn | brc_: doh |
| 07:14.59 | brc_ | http://pastebin.ca/437 |
| 07:15.02 | brc_ | doh me or doh you |
| 07:15.04 | gryn | brc_: i was reading 0x21 as a decimal number :( |
| 07:15.09 | brc_ | ah |
| 07:15.17 | gryn | brc_: i'm sleep deprived. |
| 07:15.24 | gryn | brc_: i'll just go to bed now. |
| 07:15.26 | brc_ | so the 0's after 0x don't count right? |
| 07:15.27 | brc_ | k |
| 07:15.48 | gryn | brc_: they don't count, but the guy who reads the file may complain. |
| 07:15.53 | brc_ | k |
| 07:15.55 | gryn | brc_: but the 0x does count. |
| 07:15.59 | brc_ | right |
| 07:16.29 | brc_ | so...as far as I can tell if you want to set bit 3 to 1 and bit 1 and 2 to 0 you'd use 0xff1 |
| 07:16.42 | gryn | brc_: so yeah 0x21 makes sense now that i remember to read it as hex :P :) |
| 07:16.55 | brc_ | heh |
| 07:16.59 | cursor | How can you set bit 1 to 2? |
| 07:17.05 | brc_ | cept..it doesn't work |
| 07:17.09 | gryn | you can't set a bit to 2 |
| 07:17.14 | gryn | a bit is 0 or 1. |
| 07:17.14 | brc_ | AHHH |
| 07:17.17 | brc_ | AHHHH |
| 07:17.18 | cursor | haha |
| 07:17.22 | gryn | lol |
| 07:17.44 | cursor | trinary |
| 07:17.45 | *** join/#asterisk Dobaj (~Dobaj@avonstreet.plus.com) |
| 07:17.50 | gryn | bit's 4-5 can be set to 2. but that means bit 4 and bit 5 together form a 2. |
| 07:18.05 | gryn | cursor: balanced trinary is awesome. |
| 07:18.07 | brc_ | wait |
| 07:18.38 | gryn | cursor: you get all the fun of one and zero, plus negative one! |
| 07:18.38 | brc_ | uhm |
| 07:18.38 | brc_ | yeah |
| 07:18.38 | brc_ | so... |
| 07:18.38 | gryn | brc_: what do you want to set? |
| 07:18.38 | brc_ | how's this work |
| 07:18.38 | brc_ | bit 4-5 (value after #) DTMF Transmission Method # 0 = Always inband # *1 = Negotiated via SDP # 2 = Always out-of-band |
| 07:18.38 | gryn | right |
| 07:18.54 | gryn | so 00 is 0, 01 is 1 and 10 is 2. |
| 07:18.54 | cursor | But usually that's 00, 01, 10 or 11 |
| 07:18.59 | brc_ | AH :) |
| 07:19.03 | cursor | Like in the postal system bar codes |
| 07:19.12 | brc_ | http://pastebin.ca/437 I'm trying to set VAD to off |
| 07:19.17 | brc_ | so I guess I use... |
| 07:19.28 | gryn | or more properly 00b is 0, 01b is 1 and 10b is 2. |
| 07:19.36 | gryn | which one is VAD? |
| 07:19.46 | cursor | the one on the left |
| 07:19.52 | gryn | er |
| 07:20.02 | gryn | left? |
| 07:20.10 | brc_ | 0xffffff |
| 07:20.19 | brc_ | Silence Suppression == vad |
| 07:20.23 | gryn | ok. |
| 07:20.33 | gryn | so if you want negotiated via sdp, |
| 07:20.41 | gryn | but not silence suppresion |
| 07:20.43 | gryn | that's 0x10 |
| 07:21.24 | brc_ | you sure? |
| 07:21.28 | gryn | each hex character represents 4 bits. |
| 07:21.37 | gryn | so that's 00010000b |
| 07:21.40 | gryn | so yeah. |
| 07:21.53 | brc_ | gawd this is hard |
| 07:22.06 | gryn | brc_: you need a firm grounding in base math :) |
| 07:22.12 | cursor | Just set 0x00 |
| 07:22.20 | cursor | and be done with it |
| 07:22.36 | cursor | disables VAD (bit 0=0) |
| 07:22.46 | brc_ | I've gotta figure it out cauz there's some other values I want to change |
| 07:22.54 | cursor | inband DTMF (bits 4-5=00) |
| 07:22.55 | gryn | cursor: in balanced trinary something like 24 would be: (1)(0)(-1) |
| 07:23.01 | brc_ | yeah I gotchya now |
| 07:23.08 | gryn | cursor: it's hard to write balanced trinary in a chat room. |
| 07:23.11 | cursor | 1-3 + 6-31 must be zero |
| 07:23.16 | cursor | therefore the result is 0x00 |
| 07:23.51 | gryn | yeah 0x00 for inband, 0x10 for negotiated, and 0x20 for out of band. |
| 07:24.04 | cursor | oops |
| 07:24.08 | cursor | ah |
| 07:24.11 | cursor | you want oob |
| 07:24.13 | cursor | of course |
| 07:24.13 | brc_ | I see now |
| 07:24.14 | atacomm | so cursor, think i have any chance? |
| 07:24.17 | gryn | cursor: opps (1)(0)(-1)(0) |
| 07:24.30 | brc_ | no wait... i don't |
| 07:24.34 | brc_ | ha |
| 07:24.50 | gryn | 27ths, 9ths, 3rds and ones. so 27-3 is 24! |
| 07:24.51 | brc_ | I thought you couldn't set a 2 but rather had to use 11 |
| 07:24.55 | cursor | 0x18 |
| 07:25.13 | *** join/#asterisk advorak (advorak@adsl-68-20-181-7.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 07:25.14 | gryn | 0x18 isn't valid. |
| 07:25.18 | cursor | Why |
| 07:25.22 | gryn | that sets bit 3 |
| 07:25.28 | brc_ | it does? |
| 07:25.31 | gryn | it's: 00011000b |
| 07:25.50 | gryn | it said 1-3 must be 0. |
| 07:25.52 | cursor | oops |
| 07:25.59 | cursor | 0x30 |
| 07:26.08 | gryn | ok that's not valid either. |
| 07:26.17 | gryn | cause it's not defined. |
| 07:26.25 | gryn | that's 0011000b |
| 07:26.34 | cursor | what's not defined? |
| 07:26.42 | gryn | but value of 3 is not defined in the list of DTMF transmission methods. |
| 07:26.50 | gryn | 11 is three in binary. |
| 07:27.04 | gryn | er 11b |
| 07:27.05 | cursor | 1-3 are reserved and must be set to zero |
| 07:27.16 | cursor | 4-5 are for DTMF |
| 07:27.21 | gryn | er and i meant to write 00110000b a bit ago. |
| 07:27.26 | gryn | right |
| 07:27.27 | cursor | and 11b in 4-5 are oob |
| 07:27.33 | brc_ | how do you set to zero? do you just 0x000? |
| 07:27.37 | gryn | but DTMF says 10b is OOB. |
| 07:27.40 | brc_ | or is it 0xfff |
| 07:27.44 | gryn | brc_: 0x00 |
| 07:27.46 | cursor | 110000b == 0x30 |
| 07:27.54 | gryn | cursor: right. |
| 07:28.09 | gryn | cursor: but 11b is not defined for bits 4-5 |
| 07:28.16 | gryn | only 00b 01b and 10b. |
| 07:28.19 | brc_ | 110000b is binary right? |
| 07:28.24 | gryn | brc_: right. |
| 07:28.25 | brc_ | and then 0x30 is hex |
| 07:28.30 | gryn | brc_: right |
| 07:28.32 | cursor | 017 # 4-5 DTMF Transmission Method |
| 07:28.33 | cursor | 018 # 0 = Always inband |
| 07:28.33 | cursor | 019 # *1 = Negotiated via SDP |
| 07:28.35 | cursor | 020 # 2 = Always out-of-band |
| 07:28.37 | gryn | brc_: they are easy to convert to. |
| 07:28.43 | gryn | cursor: right. |
| 07:28.57 | gryn | cursor: so 2 is out of band and 2 is 10b in binary. |
| 07:29.06 | cursor | no |
| 07:29.08 | brc_ | okay |
| 07:29.13 | cursor | ack |
| 07:29.13 | gryn | so 00100000b |
| 07:29.17 | cursor | right |
| 07:29.21 | gryn | or 0x20 |
| 07:29.24 | cursor | 0x20 |
| 07:29.37 | brc_ | lost again |
| 07:29.38 | gryn | brc_: it's easy to convert just group into 4 bits for each hex character. |
| 07:29.38 | brc_ | heh |
| 07:29.43 | gryn | brc_: ok so: |
| 07:29.45 | brc_ | k |
| 07:29.58 | gryn | 0xf3 is 1111,0011b |
| 07:30.05 | gryn | (comma's to illustrate grouping). |
| 07:30.17 | avizion | :) |
| 07:30.29 | gryn | 0x1a is 0001,1010b |
| 07:30.38 | brc_ | yeah okay |
| 07:30.45 | gryn | see that you can just treat each character as four separate bits. |
| 07:30.48 | gryn | makes things easy. |
| 07:31.16 | brc_ | yeah I see |
| 07:31.47 | cursor | slapp |
| 07:31.51 | avizion | this reminds me of my time as dev. in voip/mgcp/v5.2. I used to decode/encode it by heart :) |
| 07:31.52 | gryn | ok so we are all in agreement? only valid valuse are: 0x00, 0x01, 0x10, 0x11, 0x20, 0x21 |
| 07:32.20 | cursor | As long as 0x (hex) is valid |
| 07:32.25 | slePP | what's the vote? |
| 07:32.28 | cursor | and you don't have to specify binary |
| 07:32.31 | cursor | or sanscript |
| 07:32.36 | gryn | which are inband, novad/vad. neg. novad/vad, and oob novad/vad. |
| 07:32.37 | slePP | 'sanscrit' :> |
| 07:32.40 | cursor | yes |
| 07:32.41 | cursor | that too |
| 07:32.45 | slePP | that |
| 07:32.47 | *** join/#asterisk [Ice]COOL (~mhack@cm2.omega171.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 07:32.48 | slePP | that's twice, mr. cursor |
| 07:32.56 | cursor | ~fire cursor |
| 07:32.58 | jbot | I'm sorry, cursor, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 07:33.00 | gryn | ~moose |
| 07:33.01 | jbot | My owner thinks you could focus more time on useful factoids |
| 07:33.01 | slePP | hehe |
| 07:33.29 | cursor | I'll start my campaign next time |
| 07:33.31 | brc_ | thanks for 'splaining it gryn! |
| 07:33.47 | gryn | ok so i can go to bed and be sure you all aren't going to confuse a poor computer with mislabeled hex numbers? |
| 07:33.52 | gryn | brc_: np :) |
| 07:33.58 | gryn | time for some needed rest :) |
| 07:33.58 | brc_ | well I'm gonna try |
| 07:34.07 | gryn | zzzZZzzZzzz |
| 07:34.09 | gryn | ~muppet |
| 07:34.10 | jbot | from memory, muppet is strange and interesting puppets created by Jim Hensen, also a very good TV show. (see also 'Dark Crystal', 'Labyrinth') |
| 07:34.15 | brc_ | cisco's default values are VERY confuzling |
| 07:34.15 | cursor | remember that 0x00 is 0y00on Cisco kit |
| 07:34.17 | slePP | ~muppet |
| 07:34.18 | jbot | methinks muppet is strange and interesting puppets created by Jim Hensen, also a very good TV show. (see also 'Dark Crystal', 'Labyrinth') |
| 07:34.20 | gryn | ~gryn |
| 07:34.22 | brc_ | cursor, uh... |
| 07:34.23 | [Ice]COOL | Hi all, just wanna ask if any have run Asterisk on IBM pSeries b4? |
| 07:34.30 | cursor | haha |
| 07:34.32 | brc_ | WA?huh |
| 07:34.33 | cursor | only joking |
| 07:34.34 | brc_ | shutup |
| 07:34.34 | slePP | oh god. labyrinth |
| 07:34.40 | brc_ | I realized that too late |
| 07:34.41 | gryn | ~labyrinth |
| 07:34.50 | slePP | ~slepp |
| 07:34.53 | slePP | !! |
| 07:34.53 | gryn | ~zzzz |
| 07:34.54 | jbot | well, zzzz is "sex", as defined by Microsoft Word 6.0 for Windows. It suggests "sex" as a replacement for "zzzz". |
| 07:34.55 | brc_ | ~moosepenis |
| 07:34.59 | gryn | lol |
| 07:35.05 | cursor | What's a pSeries? |
| 07:35.06 | slePP | ~pastebin |
| 07:35.09 | jbot | rumour has it, pastebin is http://pastebin.ca post logs and configs here |
| 07:35.15 | slePP | :> |
| 07:35.16 | [Ice]COOL | It is a computer with POWER cpui |
| 07:35.30 | brc_ | ~no pastebin is slepp has some lame pastebin at pastebin.ca or something |
| 07:35.31 | jbot | okay, brc_ |
| 07:35.33 | [Ice]COOL | similiar to those found in a Mac |
| 07:35.48 | gryn | ~girl |
| 07:35.49 | jbot | "if you dont believe in the existance of evil, you have a lot to learn" |
| 07:35.50 | slePP | damn it |
| 07:35.51 | brc_ | ~revert pastebin |
| 07:35.52 | slePP | ~pastebin |
| 07:35.53 | jbot | i guess pastebin is slepp has some lame pastebin at pastebin.ca or something |
| 07:35.54 | voidptr | opteron forever! :P |
| 07:35.56 | cursor | nope - mine has a dial PIII MB |
| 07:35.59 | cursor | dual |
| 07:35.59 | slePP | i like that though. :> |
| 07:36.06 | brc_ | there's a goback command |
| 07:36.09 | brc_ | ~remember pastebin |
| 07:36.11 | jbot | How can i forget about pastebin ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 07:36.12 | gryn | ~help |
| 07:36.23 | slePP | ~touch cursor's naughty bits |
| 07:36.25 | jbot | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 07:36.25 | gryn | damn |
| 07:36.29 | slePP | aw |
| 07:36.33 | [Ice]COOL | oh....... ok, thx! |
| 07:36.35 | brc_ | man |
| 07:36.37 | cursor | ~remember cursor |
| 07:36.39 | jbot | How can i forget about cursor ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 07:36.47 | brc_ | slePP arrives on the scene and everything goes to hellinahandbasket |
| 07:36.47 | cursor | boring bot |
| 07:36.55 | gryn | ~kick |
| 07:37.02 | gryn | ~kick gryn |
| 07:37.04 | jbot | bugger off sod! |
| 07:37.07 | gryn | :( |
| 07:37.10 | gryn | ok zzzz |
| 07:37.14 | brc_ | we were having a intelligent conversation about hex/binary/howlamecisco is |
| 07:37.17 | slePP | :> |
| 07:37.17 | cursor | ~kick jbot in the generals |
| 07:37.19 | jbot | bugger off sod! |
| 07:37.33 | slePP | 1-877-YO-MOOSE |
| 07:37.35 | slePP | oh yah baby |
| 07:37.41 | cursor | A little more important than privates |
| 07:38.00 | brc_ | bedtime |
| 07:38.02 | brc_ | nite |
| 07:38.05 | cursor | Who pays for all of these moose calls? |
| 07:38.10 | slePP | i must wonder why i put my name and company in that |
| 07:38.12 | slePP | jerjer so far |
| 07:38.13 | slePP | :> |
| 07:38.15 | cursor | :-) |
| 07:38.34 | slePP | heh |
| 07:38.39 | cursor | naaaaa |
| 07:38.40 | slePP | we may lose our very cool number |
| 07:38.56 | slePP | it was fluke to get YO in the beginning of it |
| 07:38.57 | cursor | "What's this, a bill for $1,000,000?" |
| 07:39.00 | slePP | hehe |
| 07:39.04 | slePP | 'who called.. cursor.. hmm...' |
| 07:39.07 | cursor | "Why, that's almost £0.00000000000000000000003" |
| 07:39.41 | cursor | :-) |
| 07:40.00 | cursor | You need a Happy Hacker keyboard then |
| 07:40.19 | cursor | all keys in the correct place |
| 07:40.26 | cursor | No stupid "function" keys |
| 07:40.38 | cursor | no rediculous windows keys |
| 07:40.45 | cursor | No lazy arrow keys |
| 07:40.57 | cursor | Numeric keypad? What's that then |
| 07:41.20 | cursor | Caps lock? Who needs one of those anyway |
| 07:41.37 | cursor | My HH keyboard is great |
| 07:42.18 | cursor | Has anyone seen this article in the mail list? |
| 07:42.18 | cursor | Re: [Asterisk-Users] G729 Codec+packet loss concealment |
| 07:42.30 | cursor | Talking about iLBC and packet loss |
| 07:42.49 | cursor | >From what I have heard, Asterisk does not allow for iLBC to |
| 07:42.49 | cursor | take advantage of the lost packet concealment. |
| 07:43.12 | slePP | it may not |
| 07:43.26 | slePP | but not always _quite_ so bad. sometimes it'll do it's proper slur, but not often |
| 07:43.26 | cursor | me too |
| 07:43.30 | clive- | cursor that me |
| 07:43.34 | cursor | ah |
| 07:43.42 | cursor | has anyone looked into the problem? |
| 07:43.58 | cursor | and does it go away with the JB switched off? |
| 07:44.08 | clive- | steve davies wrote an email after that, explainninng the technical reaosn why it doesnt work |
| 07:44.16 | cursor | oh |
| 07:44.33 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (~roy@80.239.107.80) |
| 07:45.39 | cursor | Asterisk should not rely upon external systems for its time source |
| 07:46.05 | clive- | yup |
| 07:46.17 | clive- | interesting stuff:) |
| 07:46.36 | cursor | It should use the timestamp for incoming RTP and send the stream on its way out with a fresh timestamp |
| 07:47.37 | clive- | cursor, and for iax as well |
| 07:47.44 | cursor | right |
| 07:47.46 | cursor | for all protocols |
| 07:47.48 | DrRighteous | who here is a 7960 expert? |
| 07:47.55 | cursor | and for gatewaying between them |
| 07:48.11 | cursor | I have 7960 knowledge |
| 07:48.27 | DrRighteous | cursor: I just got a new 7960 wo/SIP |
| 07:48.32 | DrRighteous | but I have the firmware files |
| 07:48.39 | DrRighteous | I upgraded to SIP 3.2 fine |
| 07:48.41 | cursor | We could probably get around that concealment issue |
| 07:48.42 | DrRighteous | then to 5.2 fine |
| 07:48.45 | cursor | make a note of the timestamp |
| 07:48.50 | cursor | pass in a NULL if required |
| 07:48.56 | clive- | cursor, i am sure its possible |
| 07:48.57 | cursor | then reset the timestamp later |
| 07:49.08 | cursor | and interleave if necessary |
| 07:49.18 | cursor | based upon the diff between two timestamps |
| 07:49.22 | DrRighteous | but when upgrading then to 7.1, its looking for P003-7-1-00.loads while the zip contains P0S3-7-1-00.loads |
| 07:50.02 | *** join/#asterisk maruz (~maumar@ns.datalogica.com) |
| 07:50.08 | clive- | cursor the thing is, what to do when a packet is missing.... |
| 07:50.21 | clive- | at the momnet asterisk does nothing |
| 07:50.23 | cursor | -r--r--r-- 1 kevin cursor 124552 Jul 13 09:08 P003-07-1-00.bin |
| 07:50.24 | cursor | -r--r--r-- 1 kevin cursor 124956 Jul 13 09:08 P003-07-1-00.sbn |
| 07:50.24 | cursor | -r--r--r-- 1 kevin cursor 459 Jul 13 09:08 P0S3-07-1-00.loads |
| 07:50.24 | cursor | -r--r--r-- 1 kevin cursor 585938 Jul 13 09:08 P0S3-07-1-00.sb2 |
| 07:50.36 | clive- | what should happen is it should send an empty packet to the decoder |
| 07:50.41 | maruz | god save kevin :) |
| 07:50.53 | cursor | Why? |
| 07:50.57 | cursor | what's about to happen? |
| 07:51.08 | cursor | :-) |
| 07:51.12 | maruz | :)) |
| 07:51.15 | DrRighteous | cursor: yes, thats what I have, but the phone is looking for P00....loads not P0S....loads |
| 07:51.36 | DrRighteous | and it says on the screen ProtocolApplicationInvalid |
| 07:51.49 | DrRighteous | it keeps trying to load the p00 file from tftp |
| 07:52.12 | cursor | What do you have in your SIPDefault.cnf file? |
| 07:52.17 | cursor | P00 or P0S? |
| 07:52.30 | cursor | image_version: P0S3-07-1-00 |
| 07:52.35 | cursor | check it |
| 07:53.06 | DrRighteous | ahh ok |
| 07:54.58 | *** join/#asterisk usam (~alx@203.147.59.79) |
| 07:55.12 | DrRighteous | damn... still getting Protocol Application Invalid |
| 07:55.19 | DrRighteous | its getting the right file now, however |
| 07:55.25 | DrRighteous | maybe I should try 7.0? |
| 07:55.32 | cursor | 7.1 works |
| 07:55.47 | *** join/#asterisk JohnJacob (~JohnJacob@pcp619824pcs.mainf01.in.comcast.net) |
| 07:55.59 | JohnJacob | grr. I hate that we have to identify. |
| 07:56.01 | usam | royk - faar du tak i norsk telefon nummer via IAX ? |
| 07:56.18 | JohnJacob | My client disconnect and doesn't identify properly |
| 07:56.49 | cursor | boop be urp no ise ploop bat ke IAX ? |
| 07:57.05 | RoyK | usam: snart - fra oss :D |
| 07:57.11 | cursor | haha |
| 07:57.35 | cursor | Rho srapped mg kegtops awound? |
| 07:57.51 | *** join/#asterisk altamic (~Michele@212.141.100.217) |
| 07:58.15 | usam | royk - btw, telio can provide it for 159NOK pr month, but im not sure if they support iax or not |
| 07:58.25 | cursor | It's all Greek to me |
| 07:58.29 | cursor | This text is [umop apisdn]. |
| 07:58.39 | cursor | stand on your head and read it |
| 07:59.23 | cursor | oh |
| 07:59.24 | DrRighteous | yeah working |
| 07:59.24 | cursor | oh |
| 07:59.27 | cursor | type this: |
| 07:59.28 | cursor | perl -e 'print q^Asterisk!!!^^qq^\f\034\033\026\027I#\016OHR\n^' |
| 08:02.20 | RoyK | anyone heard of a "Jensen" ISDN card? |
| 08:02.22 | *** join/#asterisk af_ (~af@62.94.148.227) |
| 08:02.30 | nasl | LOL |
| 08:02.51 | RoyK | hm |
| 08:02.56 | RoyK | seems it's Cologne... |
| 08:03.00 | RoyK | that sucks |
| 08:05.24 | clive- | royk you can use bristuff |
| 08:05.40 | RoyK | for Cologne?? |
| 08:05.45 | clive- | yes |
| 08:05.49 | RoyK | isn't cologne != HFCPCI? |
| 08:06.27 | clive- | yes |
| 08:06.33 | RoyK | er |
| 08:06.43 | RoyK | seems it's hfc pci anyway... |
| 08:08.04 | cursor | ouch |
| 08:08.07 | RoyK | -me kicks slePP |
| 08:08.24 | slePP | why are you so mean to me? |
| 08:09.38 | slePP | c'mon. hurt me more..! |
| 08:09.39 | slePP | more! |
| 08:09.56 | slePP | the ultimate insult has been provided |
| 08:10.03 | cursor | :-) |
| 08:10.58 | cursor | You'd probably have to call it SAM |
| 08:10.59 | *** join/#asterisk rgunn (~rgunn@66-140-222-203.rev.techex.net.au) |
| 08:11.13 | cursor | Now you know what "uncle sam" is really all about |
| 08:11.15 | RoyK | FORMAT slePP: /s /q /u |
| 08:11.19 | cursor | Uncle SAM wants YOU! |
| 08:11.52 | cursor | mkfs /dev/slepp |
| 08:12.04 | slePP | you're not even going to enable support for unformat?? |
| 08:12.16 | cursor | mount /dev/slepp /pole |
| 08:12.19 | RoyK | slePP: exactly! |
| 08:12.25 | slePP | btw, i have a /dev/slepp kernel module i wrote when i was 14 |
| 08:12.25 | slePP | :> |
| 08:12.28 | slePP | just for reference |
| 08:12.42 | cursor | What did it do? |
| 08:12.44 | slePP | it was an autosizing block device |
| 08:12.47 | slePP | just to tinker with stuff |
| 08:12.50 | rgunn | hey all, don't want to be rude, but can anyone on here possibly help me obtain the latest firmware for a 7940 without me purchasing a maintenance contract with Cisco ?? |
| 08:12.52 | cursor | and what will you write for your 15th? |
| 08:12.53 | cursor | :-) |
| 08:12.56 | slePP | as you wrote past boundary, it got bigger, it never shrunk |
| 08:12.59 | slePP | cursor: your obits? :> |
| 08:13.43 | cursor | The Cisco maintenance is $8 |
| 08:14.00 | cursor | and you can take whatever you like once you have that |
| 08:14.14 | slePP | forever and ever too |
| 08:14.22 | cursor | But you have to jump through Cisco's hoops to get it |
| 08:14.27 | slePP | cursor, dont' make me send you child pr0n of myself! |
| 08:14.41 | cursor | I don't like prawns. I'm glad I don't because if I liked them, I'd eat them, and I just hate eating prawns. |
| 08:14.59 | rgunn | ;-) |
| 08:15.08 | slePP | damn it! |
| 08:15.10 | slePP | there goes that idea |
| 08:15.11 | cursor | The FBI will have to swim |
| 08:15.14 | cursor | or get on the phone |
| 08:15.15 | slePP | well, enjoy me when i was 12. |
| 08:15.24 | cursor | aaaargh! |
| 08:15.35 | slePP | that was a groan of enjoyment? |
| 08:15.37 | slePP | sick perv. |
| 08:15.44 | slePP | !! |
| 08:15.46 | slePP | unique, yet painful |
| 08:15.48 | rgunn | its a pain, have to wait a couple of days, sign up with cisco, wait for a reseller to charge me $12 dollars AUD |
| 08:15.58 | slePP | rgunn: but it'll happen |
| 08:16.05 | slePP | so take the hit like the rest of us |
| 08:16.11 | slePP | yeh. like the rest of us. yeh.... ;> |
| 08:16.12 | cursor | The upgrade can't be urgent, can it? |
| 08:16.17 | cursor | Otherwise you'd have it by now |
| 08:16.18 | slePP | MGCP -> SIP? |
| 08:16.21 | cursor | oh |
| 08:16.31 | rgunn | its already ordered (belive it or not) I'm just eager to play with the new phone... |
| 08:16.33 | slePP | that's the only urgent one i could see |
| 08:16.34 | rgunn | SIP |
| 08:16.39 | slePP | you're already sip? |
| 08:16.54 | rgunn | wanting latest SIP image |
| 08:17.12 | cursor | Which version do you have? |
| 08:17.21 | slePP | if you just want the latest, then don't worry about it. it'll come, it'll work in the meantime |
| 08:17.42 | rgunn | no - its factory default at the moment.. |
| 08:17.47 | cursor | Which version do you have? |
| 08:17.49 | rgunn | mgcp ? |
| 08:17.56 | slePP | factory had a default? |
| 08:18.19 | rgunn | well i thought so but then again its the first Cisco i've used |
| 08:18.44 | rgunn | i'm the proud owner of several budget tones... |
| 08:18.49 | slePP | does it show Sip in the top right corner? or some weird M? |
| 08:18.54 | cursor | Proud? |
| 08:18.58 | slePP | hehehehe |
| 08:18.58 | cursor | Budget Tone? |
| 08:19.02 | cursor | Same sentence? |
| 08:19.05 | slePP | cursor: let him be. he's confused. :> |
| 08:19.10 | slePP | he got a cisco after all |
| 08:19.17 | slePP | he/she, should've asked first :> |
| 08:19.27 | cursor | The 7960 is great |
| 08:19.42 | slePP | but no one will give me one |
| 08:19.46 | slePP | so i can prove it is true or false |
| 08:19.48 | cursor | ask bkw_ |
| 08:19.52 | cursor | he'll give you one |
| 08:20.01 | slePP | no, he wants to give me something else that starts with 7 and ends in inches |
| 08:20.15 | cursor | :-) |
| 08:20.25 | rgunn | i'm a he and I'm confused, pls not one of them though ! |
| 08:20.38 | cursor | haha |
| 08:22.04 | cursor | back in a moment |
| 08:22.28 | slePP | aw :< |
| 08:22.42 | slePP | rgunn: so are you sure it's MGCP and not SIP on the phone? |
| 08:22.48 | slePP | is it booting at all to the point where you can get into menus? |
| 08:23.10 | rgunn | no - its cycling |
| 08:24.04 | rgunn | and i've read the gumpf on voip-org so i thought i had to get the SIP image onto it |
| 08:24.58 | rgunn | so i thought its trying to use Cisco Call Manager to set itself up |
| 08:27.22 | Dobaj | anyone know how to get call parking working... I followed and example and all I get is the woman telling me there is no call on that extension |
| 08:29.34 | rgunn | have u checked parking.conf ? |
| 08:30.36 | Dobaj | yes... put in parkext => 101 and parkpos => 102-120 also set the context |
| 08:31.02 | maruz | Dobaj: http://www.pastebin.com/88603 try to add this |
| 08:31.13 | maruz | Dobaj: to your extension.conf |
| 08:33.20 | libpcp | hi all |
| 08:33.33 | rgunn | Dobaj: i've got include => parkedcalls in my [default] section in extensions.conf |
| 08:33.40 | libpcp | i would like to ask how to play a wav file for dialing an extension |
| 08:33.43 | slePP | cursor: come back. i'm lonely. |
| 08:33.48 | slePP | cursor: you're my only friend. |
| 08:33.55 | libpcp | or so i need to convert the wav file to gsm ? |
| 08:34.49 | slePP | wav file for dialing? |
| 08:34.51 | slePP | how do you mean? |
| 08:34.54 | slePP | like, play it before it dials? |
| 08:35.00 | slePP | or they dial an exten, and it plays? |
| 08:35.44 | DrRighteous | ahh... I just installed 7.1 on my 7960 and now theres a unlock code for settings? anyone know what it is? |
| 08:36.21 | rgunn | or dial an extension which is a permanent music extension ? |
| 08:36.59 | Dobaj | rgun: in your paste what in english does line 3 do? |
| 08:37.13 | slePP | cursor: an inflatable banana? |
| 08:37.17 | slePP | interesting. very interesting. |
| 08:37.34 | libpcp | slePP: play a wav file before dialing |
| 08:38.18 | DrRighteous | anyone know the default pass? |
| 08:38.25 | cursor | for what? |
| 08:38.27 | atacomm | cisco |
| 08:38.39 | DrRighteous | yeah cisco Unlock Pass for 7960 |
| 08:38.41 | cursor | 7960 defaut pass is 'cisco' |
| 08:38.45 | DrRighteous | ahh thanks |
| 08:38.48 | cursor | change it! |
| 08:40.14 | *** join/#asterisk foo8ar (~foo8ar@gatekeeper.copper.se) |
| 08:40.33 | foo8ar | is any chan_sip coders around? |
| 08:40.52 | cursor | That depends upon what you need done |
| 08:40.53 | libpcp | im just wondering how to play wav file in Background() |
| 08:41.01 | foo8ar | :) |
| 08:41.17 | rgunn | Dobaj: have you included the parked calls context in your extensions.conf ? |
| 08:41.20 | foo8ar | i wonder why lastms never gets updated wen using mysqlfriends |
| 08:41.45 | Dobaj | yes |
| 08:42.02 | cursor | Sorry, I don't have any mysqlfriends |
| 08:42.40 | cursor | I don't know what that does |
| 08:42.41 | foo8ar | what's the general idea when to update/poke lastms? |
| 08:42.46 | Dobaj | rgunn: I get an error when I try and transfer... I've used 101 rather than 700 |
| 08:42.55 | libpcp | cursor: can you give me an example how to play a wav file let say exten => s,2,Background(wavfilehere) |
| 08:45.03 | cursor | That's how you do it |
| 08:45.12 | cursor | Or use Playback() |
| 08:45.38 | cursor | Background() can be interrupted with DTMF |
| 08:45.44 | cursor | Playback() can't |
| 08:46.57 | cursor | lastms cannot be updated from outside of chan_sip |
| 08:47.22 | maruz | wavfile is a .wav file converted to a .gsm with sox, or it can be a .wav directly? |
| 08:47.49 | cursor | Modify chan_sip.c and add a function that does this: |
| 08:47.49 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.49 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.49 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.49 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.52 | maruz | does background or playback support .wav? |
| 08:48.04 | cursor | That'll update all of the lastms values |
| 08:48.12 | cursor | in theory |
| 08:49.05 | cursor | yes, it does |
| 08:49.15 | cursor | It supports any of the format Asterisk knows about |
| 08:49.43 | cursor | It'd be better if you converted the file to ulaw or something |
| 08:49.51 | cursor | less work at playback time |
| 08:49.56 | *** join/#asterisk tla (~digger@penguin.taide.net) |
| 08:49.59 | rgunn | Dobaj: u don't happen to have a features.conf file as well ? |
| 08:50.26 | cursor | I do |
| 08:50.27 | *** join/#asterisk flavour (~fboon@grail1.oxfam.org.uk) |
| 08:50.42 | cursor | Mine is five lines long |
| 08:50.46 | Dobaj | rgunn: Yes I do |
| 08:51.04 | cursor | oxfam? |
| 08:51.50 | slePP | exten => 69,1,Playback(cursor) |
| 08:51.57 | slePP | exten => 69,2,Playback(badbadbad) |
| 08:52.00 | cursor | That'll work |
| 08:52.00 | rgunn | parking.conf is now features.conf as of 7/17/04 isn't it, so its probably still using 700 as the parking extension ?? |
| 08:52.24 | slePP | cursor, you know any canadian ladies? |
| 08:52.36 | cursor | yes - parking.conf is now in features.conf |
| 08:52.40 | Dobaj | rgunn: That would explain why vi parking.conf was blank and there was no file there |
| 08:52.42 | libpcp | <maruz> wavfile is a .wav file converted to a .gsm with sox, or it can be a .wav directly? |
| 08:52.49 | rgunn | DObaj: yep |
| 08:52.51 | cursor | (slePP) no |
| 08:52.57 | slePP | well ok |
| 08:53.01 | cursor | Why? Were you hoping I'd set you up? |
| 08:53.02 | cursor | :-) |
| 08:53.03 | slePP | when did features.conf come into being? |
| 08:53.08 | slePP | 7/17? |
| 08:53.15 | cursor | 17/7 |
| 08:53.25 | slePP | right, UK. |
| 08:53.26 | slePP | like us. |
| 08:53.30 | slePP | the right way around |
| 08:53.33 | cursor | yes |
| 08:53.37 | slePP | anyhow, 17/7/04. i thought i did a CVS since then |
| 08:53.38 | slePP | but maybe not |
| 08:53.43 | cursor | day/month/year <-- in order |
| 08:53.47 | rgunn | dd/mm/yy ! the right way here is Aus too |
| 08:53.52 | slePP | the yankees are the only ones that do it backwards |
| 08:53.57 | rgunn | ;-) |
| 08:53.57 | cursor | backasswards |
| 08:54.02 | rgunn | righton |
| 08:54.05 | slePP | Connected to Asterisk CVS-HEAD-07/18/04-19:27:22 currently running on proso (pid = 21501) |
| 08:54.09 | slePP | i'd vote no on the features.conf thing? |
| 08:54.48 | cursor | I don't really see the point of features.conf |
| 08:54.55 | cursor | yet |
| 08:55.01 | rgunn | yeah - parked.conf tis abit more specific aint it ? |
| 08:55.08 | slePP | but parking.conf for 3 lines? |
| 08:55.13 | cursor | I have 5 |
| 08:55.17 | slePP | just one more file to look in |
| 08:55.20 | DrRighteous | Getting real close here... I provisioned a line in the 7960, and set the proxy to the IP of my asterisk box, but asterisk isnt authenticating off of the username, its seeing the internal IP not the nat public IP... |
| 08:55.21 | slePP | when [parking] |
| 08:55.22 | slePP | [valet] |
| 08:55.23 | cursor | set and forget |
| 08:55.24 | slePP | [etc.] |
| 08:55.26 | slePP | could be good |
| 08:55.48 | Dobaj | rgunn: do I need to enable 3-way calling as well? |
| 08:55.51 | cursor | parking.conf was nice and compact |
| 08:55.59 | cursor | So compact, if it was any smaller it'd occupy negative space and someone would collect a Nobel prize for atomic physics. |
| 08:56.11 | slePP | heh |
| 08:56.12 | libpcp | cursor: can i play a wavfile directly or i need to convert it to gsm? and what should be the correct frequency of a wav file so i could play it on asterisk, 16000kHz got an error |
| 08:56.14 | foo8ar | cursor: I see, but when *normally* would a connection get poked or get its foo->lastms set? |
| 08:56.28 | slePP | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62 Jul 15 02:55 rtp.conf |
| 08:56.28 | slePP | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 57 Jul 15 02:55 meetme.conf |
| 08:56.28 | slePP | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52 Jul 15 02:55 res_config_odbc.conf |
| 08:56.29 | cursor | You can play any format you like |
| 08:56.35 | cursor | Asterisk will transcode if required |
| 08:56.36 | slePP | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 263 Jul 15 02:55 parking.conf |
| 08:56.47 | cursor | that's why ulaw or gsm are best as source formats |
| 08:56.55 | cursor | as they don't take a lot of CPU to transcode |
| 08:57.11 | slePP | but gsm is icky |
| 08:57.16 | libpcp | Aug 3 17:00:38 WARNING[19472]: format_wav.c:155 check_header: Unexpected freqency 16000 |
| 08:57.46 | slePP | libpcp: must be 8kHz single channel |
| 08:57.49 | slePP | cursor: why? |
| 08:58.08 | slePP | all my PBX waves are in: 8kHz, 16 bit, one channel |
| 08:59.14 | cursor | It dosn't use a lot of CPU and the sound quality is reasonable |
| 08:59.46 | slePP | with VoIP or outside of it |
| 08:59.49 | slePP | it's a bit... grainy/mushy |
| 08:59.53 | cursor | I assumed it was using the packet reconstruction |
| 09:00.02 | cursor | iLBC is better than GSM |
| 09:00.18 | cursor | but suffers the same as GSM because of the lost packets and non-reconstruction |
| 09:00.32 | cursor | I didn't realise it wasn't doing reconstruction |
| 09:00.37 | cursor | I'm looking into that now |
| 09:00.43 | voidptr | w3 |
| 09:00.47 | voidptr | "better" :) |
| 09:00.53 | cursor | m3? |
| 09:00.54 | voidptr | it soakes cpu though |
| 09:00.56 | cursor | w3? |
| 09:00.58 | slePP | if you make it better, then okay :> |
| 09:01.07 | slePP | ilbc has worked well for me, but it does skip. |
| 09:01.08 | libpcp | it works with 8khz |
| 09:01.12 | slePP | i would love to see full blown speex in asterisk |
| 09:01.23 | slePP | i can understand speex to 60% packet loss |
| 09:01.25 | cursor | I tried to use speex with NuFone |
| 09:01.28 | cursor | yesterday and today |
| 09:01.30 | cursor | no luck there |
| 09:01.41 | voidptr | just get a decent connection ;) |
| 09:01.47 | cursor | not the connection |
| 09:01.53 | cursor | ulaw and g726 work |
| 09:02.11 | slePP | no, speex has issues in asterisk |
| 09:02.13 | voidptr | so what is the problem then? |
| 09:02.14 | cursor | even g729 (sssh) |
| 09:02.18 | slePP | like.. if it's not exactly what it expects, it goes toasty |
| 09:02.24 | slePP | g729? |
| 09:02.25 | slePP | where? wut? |
| 09:02.28 | slePP | you made that up |
| 09:02.28 | slePP | :> |
| 09:02.35 | foo8ar | cursor: I see, but when *normally* would a connection get poked or get its foo->lastms set? |
| 09:02.39 | voidptr | codecs don't bring magic packetloss |
| 09:02.39 | cursor | It connects with SPEEX and then I get a recorded message |
| 09:02.46 | voidptr | well atleast not gsm |
| 09:02.47 | cursor | saying the number cannot be completed as dialled |
| 09:02.52 | voidptr | and ilbc neither |
| 09:03.02 | cursor | I think I'm being switched to another box with no SpeeX |
| 09:04.24 | slePP | cursor.. will you speex with me? |
| 09:04.25 | slePP | please? |
| 09:04.39 | cursor | :-) |
| 09:04.40 | slePP | no, i'm not bored, i just play like that on irc. |
| 09:04.46 | slePP | royk wants in |
| 09:04.51 | slePP | sorry roy.. go ahead. you can speex me too |
| 09:05.09 | RoyK | free(voidptr); |
| 09:05.11 | cursor | and then runs |
| 09:05.55 | cursor | You can't catch a SIGSEGV :-) |
| 09:06.02 | voidptr | cursor : i think you can |
| 09:06.04 | RoyK | cursor: you can indeed |
| 09:06.09 | cursor | Well, you can, but you can't do anything useful |
| 09:06.11 | voidptr | look at * |
| 09:06.24 | cursor | You can just report the fact and exit |
| 09:06.27 | RoyK | cursor: you can at least kill() |
| 09:06.28 | voidptr | (although thats a bad example) |
| 09:06.41 | cursor | If you try to do anything fancy then you could loop |
| 09:06.53 | voidptr | cursor : basicly you can do anything, but you cannot trust the old data anymore |
| 09:06.58 | cursor | right |
| 09:07.06 | slePP | heh |
| 09:07.10 | slePP | no one told me that, when i first did signal handling |
| 09:07.13 | cursor | yes - you can catch, but what's the point? |
| 09:07.15 | slePP | so i'd catch sigsegv |
| 09:07.16 | slePP | and return |
| 09:07.22 | cursor | haha |
| 09:07.23 | slePP | and wonder why it would go into a sig loop |
| 09:07.26 | *** join/#asterisk neoneurone (neoneurone@AToulouse-105-1-2-114.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:07.35 | slePP | so i put in a 'if(sigsegv_count++ > 5) { exit(0); }' |
| 09:07.41 | voidptr | cursor : enhanced debugging... |
| 09:07.41 | cursor | :-) |
| 09:07.58 | slePP | it was neat, cuz sometimes, it'd only seg 3 times |
| 09:08.00 | slePP | then continue as normal |
| 09:08.04 | slePP | but usually, it went right away |
| 09:08.06 | cursor | printf("Numbnuts\n"); |
| 09:08.08 | cursor | exit(1); |
| 09:08.25 | voidptr | hehe |
| 09:08.28 | voidptr | yeh |
| 09:08.30 | slePP | printf("cursor told me this wouldn't work. he was right. crashing. thanks.\n"); abort(); |
| 09:08.39 | cursor | haha |
| 09:08.50 | cursor | printf("MOOSE PENIS!\n"); |
| 09:08.59 | slePP | Progress: B1A00000-00000007-00000000-00000000 |
| 09:09.04 | cursor | I think Asterisk should have a muppet config |
| 09:09.06 | slePP | i'm brute forcing a TEA crypto |
| 09:09.08 | cursor | muppet = yes |
| 09:09.13 | cursor | hidden somewhere in the config |
| 09:09.15 | *** join/#asterisk CMike (daemon@c-fb4171d5.116-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:09.24 | cursor | The README should explain how to remove it |
| 09:09.24 | slePP | cursor: like gnugk? |
| 09:09.35 | cursor | and asterisk should refuse to start with it set |
| 09:09.43 | slePP | no |
| 09:09.45 | slePP | not the readme |
| 09:09.47 | slePP | the wiki |
| 09:09.50 | cursor | :-) |
| 09:10.05 | cursor | if (muppet) { |
| 09:10.05 | slePP | but embed the word muppet in all pages except 'how to remove mu pp et' :> |
| 09:10.10 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.13 | cursor | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.14 | cursor | } |
| 09:10.27 | slePP | STFW |
| 09:10.31 | slePP | RTFM and STFW |
| 09:11.32 | *** part/#asterisk rgunn (~rgunn@66-140-222-203.rev.techex.net.au) |
| 09:11.44 | cursor | Slepp's Tent Flew Westward? |
| 09:12.04 | slePP | well, it tends to hang downwards unless bkw is around. but... |
| 09:12.08 | slePP | see/search the fucking wiki |
| 09:12.15 | cursor | haha |
| 09:13.24 | *** join/#asterisk Scannachiappolo (~scannachi@net-198-200.noicomnet.it) |
| 09:14.09 | slePP | cursor, are you a ham? |
| 09:14.11 | slePP | or just at parties? |
| 09:14.19 | cursor | ham? |
| 09:14.31 | slePP | amateur radio |
| 09:14.36 | cursor | No |
| 09:15.03 | slePP | why not? |
| 09:15.09 | slePP | isn't that the only way to talk to people off the island? |
| 09:15.15 | cursor | No, the question is why? |
| 09:15.18 | slePP | heh |
| 09:15.20 | slePP | fair enough |
| 09:15.21 | cursor | :-) |
| 09:15.28 | slePP | and uhm. barely used it since |
| 09:15.33 | cursor | why not? |
| 09:15.34 | cursor | :-) |
| 09:15.36 | slePP | but since it's licensed for 99 years or death, whichever comes first, it doesn't really matter |
| 09:15.43 | slePP | cuz my radio keeps falling off it's velcro on the dash |
| 09:16.02 | cursor | Now, that is amateur radio :-) |
| 09:16.23 | slePP | exactly :> |
| 09:16.33 | RoyK | http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/team_america/ |
| 09:16.34 | slePP | a $300 linear amp under the seat |
| 09:16.37 | slePP | $30 in cables |
| 09:16.46 | slePP | and a $25 radio velcro'd to the dash, with a $60 headset |
| 09:17.39 | cursor | headset, i a car? |
| 09:17.44 | slePP | hell yah |
| 09:17.51 | slePP | ever try using a mic for 2 hours on the highway? |
| 09:17.53 | slePP | get hand cramps |
| 09:18.59 | slePP | anyway. :> it's a nice little headset |
| 09:19.00 | voidptr | kpn!? |
| 09:19.11 | voidptr | *horror* |
| 09:19.45 | slePP | 13207 slepp 19 0 292 288 244 R 65.0 0.0 302:24.47 aolcrack |
| 09:19.45 | slePP | 13210 slepp 20 0 304 300 256 R 62.8 0.0 294:30.52 aolcrack |
| 09:19.45 | slePP | 13347 slepp 20 0 292 288 244 R 59.9 0.0 272:14.10 aolcrack2 |
| 09:19.53 | slePP | only a couple trillion years to go |
| 09:19.58 | voidptr | :) |
| 09:20.05 | CMike | where can I find the latest Grandstream Firmware ? anyone ? |
| 09:20.20 | slePP | CMike: ask cursor. he likes grandstreams |
| 09:20.32 | CMike | :) |
| 09:20.38 | slePP | english tea? |
| 09:20.43 | slePP | or green tea? |
| 09:20.46 | slePP | earl grey? |
| 09:20.46 | cursor | ack |
| 09:20.58 | cursor | Indian |
| 09:21.02 | cursor | ordinary |
| 09:21.09 | slePP | voidptr: wut? VOX as in voice actuated? |
| 09:21.11 | cursor | none of that girly fancy stuff |
| 09:21.14 | slePP | oh |
| 09:21.15 | slePP | well then |
| 09:21.19 | slePP | green tea is far from fancy :> |
| 09:22.10 | slePP | oh dear god no. |
| 09:22.11 | slePP | please no. |
| 09:22.13 | slePP | oh wait |
| 09:22.17 | slePP | i like quiche. |
| 09:22.19 | slePP | thanks :> |
| 09:22.36 | slePP | did you know broccoli didn't exist like 30 years ago? |
| 09:22.53 | cursor | I didn't know that |
| 09:23.01 | slePP | it's a hybrid plant entirely man made |
| 09:23.10 | slePP | there is no wild broccoli plant. |
| 09:23.24 | slePP | well, they didn't... they ended up merging into one solid mass of green fluffy veggie |
| 09:23.27 | slePP | and were never separated again |
| 09:23.29 | slePP | poor things |
| 09:23.32 | cursor | aaaah |
| 09:23.37 | *** join/#asterisk shmooz (~konfuzed@host6411912762.biz.tor.fcibroadband.com) |
| 09:23.41 | slePP | heh |
| 09:23.45 | slePP | as shmooz joins |
| 09:23.47 | slePP | nice timing |
| 09:23.55 | shmooz | hi |
| 09:23.58 | slePP | http://www.broccoli.co.jp/ |
| 09:23.59 | cursor | lo |
| 09:24.04 | slePP | the japanese really scare me most of the time. |
| 09:24.13 | slePP | shmooz: how's weather over there? |
| 09:24.42 | cursor | They scare everyone - they glow in the dark, thanks to the Americans |
| 09:24.55 | slePP | it's not so much the glowing, as it is the anime |
| 09:24.58 | slePP | and hello kitty |
| 09:25.07 | cursor | ;-) |
| 09:25.08 | shmooz | slePP: good good, little hot, how bout u |
| 09:25.09 | slePP | shmooz: is it pleasant in TO? |
| 09:25.13 | slePP | too hot |
| 09:25.15 | slePP | and windy |
| 09:25.40 | slePP | cursor: though i have suspicions the anime and hello kitty both derive from the same causes as the glowing... |
| 09:25.48 | slePP | kind of like an exceptionally prolonged acid trip |
| 09:26.36 | cursor | Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. |
| 09:26.47 | shmooz | I got this problem with queuing, how do I setup the channels for members, those members phones work with sip at the moment, and when I call from pstn it tries to queue, but doesn't ring any internal phones... |
| 09:26.50 | shmooz | WARNING[1105755056]: channel.c:1831 ast_request: No channel type registered for 'AddQueueMember(supportq|SIP' |
| 09:26.50 | shmooz | Aug 3 05:59:54 NOTICE[1105755056]: app_queue.c:699 wait_for_answer: No one is answering queue 'supportq' |
| 09:27.00 | cursor | :-) |
| 09:27.23 | slePP | shmooz: i think you missed something in the agents.conf |
| 09:27.33 | slePP | like, the proper format sort of thing |
| 09:27.37 | shmooz | oh, yes, never even looked at it yet |
| 09:27.40 | shmooz | good idea |
| 09:27.43 | slePP | look at agents.conf |
| 09:27.45 | slePP | and in queues.conf |
| 09:27.54 | slePP | do you have AddQueueMember in either of those? |
| 09:28.25 | DrRighteous | 20 bucks via paypal to anyone who can get my 7960 to work with asterisk ;) |
| 09:28.31 | DrRighteous | time is money after all |
| 09:28.36 | slePP | make it $25 and you've got a deal |
| 09:28.37 | slePP | :> |
| 09:28.40 | DrRighteous | done |
| 09:28.48 | slePP | host to ssh/telnet to? |
| 09:28.53 | shmooz | I have member => AddQueueMember(supportq|SIP/100) .. and more |
| 09:28.53 | slePP | and all that jazz |
| 09:28.57 | shmooz | in queues.conf |
| 09:29.00 | slePP | it's $35 if i can't login remotely :> |
| 09:29.13 | slePP | schmooz: just use: member => SIP/100 |
| 09:29.15 | slePP | i think :> |
| 09:29.36 | slePP | yeh |
| 09:29.40 | slePP | member => SIP/100 |
| 09:29.43 | slePP | do that, do a reload |
| 09:29.45 | slePP | then try your queue |
| 09:29.56 | shmooz | k |
| 09:31.15 | libpcp | ive created an ivr menu, is it possible while waiting for users input for the extension they want to call, it will play an music from musiconhold? |
| 09:31.35 | slePP | Dial(SIP/100,,m) |
| 09:31.45 | pfn | neat, so I've got myself a 7960 to dick with for a bit |
| 09:31.47 | shmooz | slePP: well that did it! :) , thanks budz |
| 09:31.50 | pfn | need to load up the SIP images |
| 09:32.10 | slePP | no problem. |
| 09:33.23 | pfn | oh, nevermind, it's a 7940 |
| 09:34.02 | *** join/#asterisk Inv_Arp (junya@adsl-10-142-83.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 09:35.02 | *** join/#asterisk kiso79 (kiso79@81.198.225.247) |
| 09:35.11 | cursor | Don't let your mind wander -- it's too little to be let out alone. |
| 09:35.40 | *** join/#asterisk Jas_Williams (~Jason@host217-44-216-153.range217-44.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:36.09 | cursor | We need to be sure to delete any patches by cursor_software in |
| 09:36.09 | cursor | the bug tracker to make sure they don't inadvertantly find their way into |
| 09:36.09 | cursor | Asterisk since he will be unable to file a disclaimer. |
| 09:37.45 | slePP | why was it again? |
| 09:37.46 | slePP | that you cant? |
| 09:37.53 | cursor | I just can't |
| 09:38.16 | kiso79 | Has anyone got some exp with stun?? |
| 09:38.17 | slePP | interesting :> |
| 09:38.24 | cursor | wave goodbye to the forwarding fixes |
| 09:38.36 | slePP | nah, send me the forwarding fixes for assistance |
| 09:38.39 | slePP | and i'll steal your code |
| 09:38.55 | cursor | I'll send to anyone who asks |
| 09:39.13 | cursor | and will most likely set up a website to show a list and allow patch downloads |
| 09:39.27 | slePP | but it can't make it into main code trunks |
| 09:39.35 | cursor | Apparentlt not |
| 09:39.39 | cursor | apparently |
| 09:39.51 | slePP | that's stopped a few things from making it in thus far, unfortunately |
| 09:40.00 | slePP | they need like the Netscape/Mozilla partnership |
| 09:40.01 | kiso79 | Noone? |
| 09:40.04 | slePP | Asterisk and AsteriskFree |
| 09:40.09 | cursor | If I didn't want to share then I wouldn't have posted the enhancements in the first place |
| 09:40.19 | cursor | Asterisk is a (tm) |
| 09:40.39 | cursor | Ask atacomm about TMs :-) |
| 09:40.40 | slePP | no more tm talk for tonight :P |
| 09:41.04 | kiso79 | ~seen mattbridges |
| 09:41.05 | jbot | mattbridges <~mattbridg@82.33.210.18> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 22d 17h 39m 7s ago, saying: 'Hi anyone give me some help with MySQL + SIP Friends?'. |
| 09:41.22 | slePP | cursor: here's one for you |
| 09:41.40 | slePP | on my 7940, do i need one peer/user per line, or one only, and identify when i call it like SIP/100@peer? |
| 09:41.42 | litnimax | jbot: what'is the roblem? |
| 09:41.43 | jbot | wish i knew, litnimax |
| 09:42.22 | cursor | I use 'friend' for local SIP phones |
| 09:42.33 | cursor | and peer/user pairs for anything non-local |
| 09:42.37 | slePP | k, well friend then |
| 09:42.40 | slePP | but the same question. :> |
| 09:42.44 | slePP | two friends? like. 801 and 802 |
| 09:42.44 | cursor | yes |
| 09:42.46 | cursor | one per line |
| 09:42.55 | kiso79 | cursor: isn't friend borh user and peer? |
| 09:42.59 | slePP | it'd be useful to have one friend, all 2/6 lines if you wanted |
| 09:43.01 | cursor | it is |
| 09:44.00 | kiso79 | Hmm, Does no one have any STUN experience? |
| 09:44.24 | cursor | I'm sure someone has |
| 09:44.43 | kiso79 | Well, it's a very simple question I have |
| 09:44.58 | cursor | ok |
| 09:45.15 | kiso79 | Do I need a STUN server if only the client is behind a NAT? |
| 09:45.23 | kiso79 | the server is on a public IP |
| 09:45.51 | cursor | That's the idea |
| 09:46.05 | cursor | so that people behine a NAT can connect to your service |
| 09:46.10 | cursor | that's what STUN is for |
| 09:47.06 | kiso79 | But someone told me that I didn't need it |
| 09:47.16 | kiso79 | Hmm, obviously they were wrong |
| 09:47.50 | slePP | cursor, will you adopt me if i move to england? |
| 09:48.03 | slePP | or be my sugar daddy at least |
| 09:48.04 | slePP | ? |
| 09:48.13 | kiso79 | cursor: Can the STUN run on the same IP/server as the * then? |
| 09:48.37 | cursor | it can |
| 09:48.41 | cursor | use a different port |
| 09:49.14 | kiso79 | Hmm |
| 09:49.32 | cursor | or move Asterisk's SIP to a different port and put STUN on the SIP port |
| 09:49.53 | kiso79 | have you ever set up a STUN? And how difficult is it? |
| 09:50.06 | cursor | no, and no idea :-) |
| 09:50.15 | kiso79 | Darn. |
| 09:50.23 | cursor | Asterisk will probably get built-in STUN support after 1.0 |
| 09:50.38 | kiso79 | So Unless I set up a STUN only the users who are not behind a NAT can use our service? |
| 09:50.50 | cursor | or IAX2 users |
| 09:51.22 | kiso79 | Well, not a whole lot of phones support IAX2 |
| 09:51.31 | cursor | true |
| 09:51.32 | kiso79 | At least at an affordable price |
| 09:51.36 | cursor | true |
| 09:51.53 | kiso79 | We use GS and Xlite |
| 09:52.01 | kiso79 | And they support STUN |
| 09:52.15 | kiso79 | But obviously I need to implement the STUN first :D |
| 09:52.23 | cursor | right |
| 09:53.33 | kiso79 | S..., more work then |
| 09:54.44 | cursor | Someone't gotta be kidding here |
| 09:54.45 | cursor | [Asterisk-cvs] asterisk ChangeLog,1.67,1.68 HARDWARE,1.3,1.4 asterisk.c,1.111,1.112 muted.c,1.4,1.5 pbx.c,1.142,1.143 |
| 09:54.52 | cursor | see the asterisk.c change |
| 09:55.30 | cursor | I don't think I'll point out the obvious error this time |
| 09:55.35 | cursor | My version works |
| 09:55.53 | cursor | The "cleanroom" version will duplicate the last line of the history file every time, I suspect |
| 09:56.29 | cursor | Actually, I'll back out my patch and add the one in CVS to see if I'm right |
| 10:03.16 | cursor | haha |
| 10:03.26 | cursor | Actually, it doesn't fix any of what my bug reported |
| 10:03.36 | cursor | You still get blank lines in the history |
| 10:03.47 | cursor | and you still get a repeated last command when you load the history |
| 10:04.20 | cursor | This is too funny |
| 10:04.34 | cursor | and it ends my involvement with the project on a coding basis |
| 10:04.43 | cursor | I'll just be a user from now on |
| 10:06.49 | cursor | I re-applied my changes and it all works properly now |
| 10:06.55 | cursor | So I'm happy with that |
| 10:15.04 | *** join/#asterisk jalsot (~tamas@abacus.eworld.hu) |
| 10:15.27 | slePP | heh |
| 10:15.35 | slePP | it ends your assistance at coding? |
| 10:20.09 | cursor | I think I can see why the iLBC/SpeeX stuff doesn't get passed the info it needs to do lost frame reconstruction |
| 10:20.31 | cursor | The place I'm looking at would need a 5-6 line addition |
| 10:20.59 | cursor | and the codecs would need to signal that reconstruction is required |
| 10:21.15 | cursor | in SpeeX, you just pass in a NULL and it does all the work for you |
| 10:21.21 | cursor | I'm not sure about iLBC |
| 10:21.33 | slePP | possibly similar? |
| 10:21.34 | cursor | but I'm sure there's info on that in their docs/google/test program |
| 10:21.39 | cursor | Not similar |
| 10:21.48 | cursor | it dereferences the pointer passed in |
| 10:21.52 | cursor | so you can't pass in a NULL |
| 10:22.12 | cursor | but there's likely to be a 'lost frame' marker |
| 10:22.23 | cursor | I'll take a break and then fix this up |
| 10:22.45 | cursor | and then my Asterisk will sound better than yours :-) |
| 10:23.13 | kiso79 | cursor; do you by any chance have a good beat on the sipfriends/iaxfriends part? |
| 10:23.20 | slePP | no! |
| 10:23.44 | cursor | I don't put friends etc. in a database |
| 10:24.04 | kiso79 | cursor: how then? |
| 10:24.10 | cursor | sip.conf |
| 10:24.11 | cursor | iax.conf |
| 10:24.16 | cursor | That's what I use |
| 10:24.34 | kiso79 | cursor: I imagine you dont have a lot of users then |
| 10:24.42 | cursor | no |
| 10:24.51 | cursor | not a lot |
| 10:25.01 | cursor | and the number won't change very often |
| 10:25.03 | kiso79 | cursor: hmm, we need to have something like a 1000 or more |
| 10:25.08 | cursor | so the conf is fine for me |
| 10:25.24 | cursor | ok |
| 10:25.29 | kiso79 | So a db is needed for us |
| 10:25.40 | slePP | stfw? |
| 10:26.03 | cursor | Sorry, if I used the DB config then I'd be able to help |
| 10:26.09 | kiso79 | cursor: But I did get our billing part down to something like a 1 line statement :D |
| 10:26.45 | cursor | :-) |
| 10:26.46 | kiso79 | In MySQL |
| 10:27.01 | kiso79 | cursor: I think thats a place to start, eh?? |
| 10:27.13 | cursor | yes |
| 10:27.48 | kiso79 | But it still sucks that I have to get into STUN also |
| 10:27.50 | kiso79 | Grrr |
| 10:28.04 | kiso79 | And the doc on it is hard to find |
| 10:28.04 | cursor | It can't be too difficult to set up |
| 10:28.17 | kiso79 | cursor: I got it downloaded |
| 10:28.18 | cursor | lots of service providers use SER/STUN with Asterisk |
| 10:28.19 | kiso79 | :D |
| 10:28.42 | cursor | ok |
| 10:28.44 | cursor | good luck |
| 10:29.10 | kiso79 | cursor: I don't need luck, just an update of my skills :D |
| 10:29.20 | cursor | :-) |
| 10:29.40 | cursor | emerge --update skills |
| 10:30.00 | pfn | wow, getting the 7940 up and running is relatively easy |
| 10:30.13 | cursor | should be the same as the 7960 |
| 10:30.18 | *** join/#asterisk liversmudge (~liversmud@217-14-176-201.as25582.net) |
| 10:30.32 | liversmudge | morning guys |
| 10:30.39 | liversmudge | whos awake today? |
| 10:30.41 | cursor | morning |
| 10:30.43 | cursor | zzzz |
| 10:30.46 | liversmudge | lol |
| 10:30.50 | pfn | what does the x in the line appearance mean on the 7940 |
| 10:30.57 | liversmudge | I have a strange problem that I guess is very common ... |
| 10:30.57 | slePP | it didn't register |
| 10:30.59 | Jas_Williams | Not registered |
| 10:30.59 | pfn | ah |
| 10:31.05 | pfn | why doesn't it register.... |
| 10:31.10 | cursor | the x? |
| 10:31.14 | liversmudge | 2 machines peering with iax |
| 10:31.21 | Jas_Williams | sip.conf error |
| 10:31.40 | liversmudge | the host terminats pstn calls .. the salve makes all calls through the peer to the host |
| 10:31.53 | pfn | oh, I have register with proxy = no |
| 10:31.59 | Dobaj | anyone got moh to work with parked calls? |
| 10:32.02 | liversmudge | I can make 1 call off the slave outside and everything is ok .. clear call |
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| 10:32.31 | liversmudge | the second is jittery .. the show channels shows a very high lag and or vay high jitter |
| 10:32.36 | liversmudge | help!!! |
| 10:32.52 | Jas_Williams | Dobaj: Only works if the call comes over a Zap channel does not work with sip channels |
| 10:32.56 | liversmudge | is this a timing error |
| 10:33.22 | liversmudge | if so who dictates the timing of a call |
| 10:33.32 | morlac | who can tell me why my TE410P switch all lights off once the module/driver is loaded on Redhat 9 standard? or what to check? |
| 10:33.33 | liversmudge | is it the host end or the slave end |
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| 10:33.44 | Dobaj | Jas: Thanks... hopefully my X100 card should be here today... then I have the fun of installing it with Fedora Core2 |
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| 10:35.01 | liversmudge | cursor ... your a man who normally knows .. what is the problem with my peering ... please tell me oh *gurn |
| 10:35.49 | Dr-|KEIN| | anyone can help me with this problem ... Aug 3 12:25:33 WARNING[98311]: chan_sip.c:673 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 71cea1558b728643@192.168.0.160 for seqno 40946 (Non-critical Response) |
| 10:36.22 | Bobby_Ewing | could anyone help me with a quick exten i'm trying to setup? I'm trying to make it so by dialing "8 01723 366666" it would dial on nufone "011 44 1723366666" - a UK number. I'm using exten => _80[1-9].,1,Dial(IAX2/USER@NuFone/01144${EXTEN:1}) but it doesn't work - am I missing something obvious? |
| 10:37.36 | liversmudge | BOB: you will have an extra 0 in there from the original exten |
| 10:38.20 | Bobby_Ewing | liversmudge: how should i remove it? |
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| 10:39.39 | Dobaj | Bob: Use ${EXTEN:2} I think |
| 10:39.43 | liversmudge | BOB: make the EXTEN:1 to EXTEN:2 |
| 10:40.06 | liversmudge | the :X removes the 1st X digits off the EXTEN variable |
| 10:41.01 | Bobby_Ewing | oh ok.. i'll try that. Cheers liversmudge |
| 10:42.14 | liversmudge | any help on this jitter peer I have? |
| 10:43.27 | Bobby_Ewing | liversmudge: it's still not working. It's actually sending this to nufone: Called USER@NuFone/01723366666 instead of /011441723366666 |
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| 10:45.09 | pfn | sip debug ip is so broken |
| 10:45.14 | pfn | it only shows outbound messages but not inbound |
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| 10:48.09 | pfn | why is the cisco being stupid and not registering |
| 10:48.13 | pfn | it's not sending authentication |
| 10:49.40 | liversmudge | BOB : _80[1-9].,1,Dial(IAX2/USER@NuFone/01144${EXTEN:2}) this should work ... |
| 10:51.11 | cursor | <liversmudge> cursor ... your a man who normally knows .. what is the problem with my peering ... please tell me oh *gurn |
| 10:51.16 | cursor | describe the problem |
| 10:51.34 | cursor | and I'll try to be a *gurn |
| 10:51.44 | cursor | whatever that is :-) |
| 10:52.22 | Jas_Williams | pfn: what version of cisco software are you using ? |
| 10:53.25 | pfn | 7.1 |
| 10:54.50 | Jas_Williams | pfn: What is the contents of the cnf file |
| 10:55.00 | Jas_Williams | pfn: Post it to pastebin |
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| 10:55.04 | pfn | modified defaults |
| 10:55.15 | pfn | uno segundo |
| 10:56.05 | liversmudge | Cursor : ok 1 master serving pstn calls the slave connecting via iax2 .. 1st call from slave to master is clear low lag low jigger ... second call jitters to hell and the lag goes sky high ... like 7 digits sky high .. |
| 10:56.57 | cursor | ok |
| 10:57.23 | cursor | trunked IAX2? |
| 10:57.23 | liversmudge | Cursor : IF voip-voip call are made through the peer they seem ok .. it only seems to happen when a call is made externally to a PSTN line |
| 10:57.33 | liversmudge | Cursor Trunk has been turned off |
| 10:57.46 | cursor | what about the jitter buffer? |
| 10:58.13 | liversmudge | Cursor : truned off .. as the lists seem to indicate that the jitter buffer dont work |
| 10:58.21 | cursor | no |
| 10:58.28 | cursor | they only fail in trunked mode |
| 10:58.32 | cursor | which why I asked that first |
| 10:58.36 | cursor | switch the JB on |
| 10:58.44 | liversmudge | bugger .. I wanted the trunk on |
| 10:58.45 | Bobby_Ewing | cursor / liversmudge. I have exactly that above in my extensions.conf, but asteris still says: Called USER@NuFone/01723366666 not 011441723366666 |
| 10:59.11 | liversmudge | So if trunk is on .. does jitter buffer fail ... or only sometimes? |
| 10:59.20 | pfn | http://pastebin.ca/441 |
| 10:59.22 | maruz | Jas_Williams: 10x for having helped on ml :) nevertheless it doesn't worjs :( |
| 10:59.24 | cursor | it's broken in trunked mode - apparently |
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| 10:59.30 | cursor | but works without |
| 10:59.32 | puzzled | morning |
| 10:59.44 | cursor | 11:59am - morning |
| 10:59.46 | cursor | just |
| 11:00.01 | pfn | 3:59 here |
| 11:00.07 | puzzled | hehe, timing is everything :) |
| 11:00.10 | cursor | one step ahead - as usual |
| 11:00.19 | decode | pfn: i wish i was back in PST :) |
| 11:00.20 | liversmudge | Cursor : what settings show I start with ? |
| 11:00.48 | cursor | I use these: |
| 11:00.49 | cursor | --- |
| 11:00.50 | cursor | jitterbuffer = yes ; enable the jitter buffer |
| 11:00.50 | cursor | dropcount = 2 ; default 3 |
| 11:00.50 | cursor | maxjitterbuffer = 500 ; default 500 |
| 11:00.50 | cursor | maxexcessbuffer = 80 ; default 100 |
| 11:00.51 | cursor | minexcessbuffer = 20 ; default 10 |
| 11:00.53 | cursor | jittershrinkrate = 1 ; 1 = 50ms per second shrink (or enlarge) rate |
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| 11:00.55 | cursor | --- |
| 11:02.25 | Jas_Williams | pfn: just checking your config |
| 11:02.47 | pfn | I keep getting register -> trying -> unauthorized -> register |
| 11:02.56 | pfn | the last register does not try to authenticate, it sends w/o authentication |
| 11:03.53 | Jas_Williams | do you have auth=md5 in your sip.conf |
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| 11:04.03 | puzzled | morning dnc |
| 11:04.07 | dnc | hiya |
| 11:04.14 | pfn | nope |
| 11:04.54 | Jas_Williams | place auth=md5 for the peer 400 and try again also you could post the sip.conf for that peer |
| 11:05.16 | cursor | Apparently, my patches will be deleted off the bug tracker soon |
| 11:05.27 | cursor | so if anyone wants them then grab them quickly |
| 11:05.39 | Bobby_Ewing | which patches cursor |
| 11:05.39 | pfn | http://pastebin.ca/442 |
| 11:06.05 | Bobby_Ewing | did you get caller id to work with BT? |
| 11:06.18 | liversmudge | Cursor : putting the jitterbuffer on .. now makes all the calls jitter .. even when there is only 1 channel open |
| 11:06.18 | liversmudge | Peer Username ID (Lo/Rem) Seq (Tx/Rx) Lag Jitter JitBuf Format |
| 11:06.18 | liversmudge | 217.14.176.134 client3018 00010/16390 00006/00006 -35323901ms 0004ms 0018ms GSM |
| 11:06.28 | cursor | http://pastebin.ca/443 <-- patches |
| 11:06.29 | liversmudge | this is the weird thing I get .. notice the lag |
| 11:06.54 | cursor | I'll consider maintaining them elsewhere |
| 11:07.30 | Jas_Williams | pfn: add username=400 as well |
| 11:07.45 | pfn | that shouldn't make a diff, but ok... |
| 11:07.57 | liversmudge | Cursor : any ideas why the lag is negitive .... always wanted low lag .. but neg lag is weird |
| 11:08.33 | pfn | nope, no diff |
| 11:08.57 | pfn | it's not responding to authentication requests |
| 11:08.59 | cursor | I've seen a -ve lag once |
| 11:09.06 | cursor | but have never been able to reproduce it |
| 11:09.57 | liversmudge | without jitterbuffer on the 1st call is ok .. 15ms lag 3 jitter ... the second call has either lareg amounts of lag and high jitter or neg lag low jitter |
| 11:10.00 | Jas_Williams | pfn: Is nat involved ? |
| 11:10.35 | pfn | no nat involved |
| 11:10.35 | Jas_Williams | pfn: then why is nat=yes |
| 11:10.40 | pfn | cuz it makes no difference in this case |
| 11:11.13 | liversmudge | I know a time source is needed ... how you you dictate which source is used .... |
| 11:11.33 | cursor | The caller provides the timing |
| 11:11.37 | Jas_Williams | pfn: then remove it, can you post a sip debug your configs look fine |
| 11:11.45 | liversmudge | ah |
| 11:11.48 | liversmudge | now then |
| 11:11.48 | cursor | so it'll be the remote IAX connection |
| 11:11.53 | cursor | or your PSTN card |
| 11:11.55 | cursor | or whatever |
| 11:11.56 | pfn | interesting, perhaps nat=yes did fuck stuff up |
| 11:12.31 | cursor | only set nat=yes if the phone is configured with that as well |
| 11:12.34 | liversmudge | so .. if the slave hasnt got a card "working" init and makes a call how does it get the timing |
| 11:13.05 | liversmudge | this is the thing ... host to slave .. clear calls everytime ... slave to host .. problems ... I am lead to think this is a timeing error then |
| 11:13.16 | cursor | "some other method" |
| 11:13.17 | cursor | :-) |
| 11:13.51 | cursor | possibly a zap driver |
| 11:13.57 | cursor | like the USB driver |
| 11:14.02 | cursor | or the RTC driver |
| 11:14.02 | pfn | jas_williams I removed nat=yes and it seems to have fixed it, thanks |
| 11:14.03 | pfn | strange |
| 11:14.08 | pfn | I'll investigate why that's the case later |
| 11:14.15 | pfn | time to go to bed |
| 11:14.29 | liversmudge | Well this might be it .... its onf FC2 .. which has some issues compiling the drivers stc |
| 11:14.45 | liversmudge | I did what the lists say ... but I wonder if its not worked |
| 11:16.32 | libpcp | is there any configuration aside from setting up a callgroup and pickupgroup to a sip users to make call pickup work or do i need something to configure? |
| 11:20.31 | liversmudge | does anyone have the correct procedure for compiling zaptel under Fedora Core 2 with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 11:20.43 | liversmudge | I knows its in the lists I just cant find it |
| 11:20.48 | gambolputty | I found out from someone that |
| 11:20.56 | gambolputty | just follow the source code only |
| 11:20.58 | gambolputty | for zaptel |
| 11:21.05 | gambolputty | ignore the wiki in that case |
| 11:21.09 | flavour | liversmudge: http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Linux%20Fedora |
| 11:21.26 | gambolputty | make clean |
| 11:21.28 | gambolputty | make linux26 |
| 11:21.31 | gambolputty | make install |
| 11:21.57 | Bobby_Ewing | cursor: do you have a sec? |
| 11:22.00 | cursor | <gambolputty> make linux26 |
| 11:22.00 | cursor | ack |
| 11:22.05 | cursor | just make |
| 11:22.11 | gambolputty | I also changed my udev config so entries would appear in dev |
| 11:22.18 | cursor | unless you have a very old version |
| 11:22.35 | cursor | yes - you have to change the udev config |
| 11:22.57 | gambolputty | It kept complaining, could not find /dev/zap/channel |
| 11:23.14 | cursor | right |
| 11:23.20 | Jas_Williams | Bobby_Ewing: What is your problem ? |
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| 11:24.11 | Bobby_Ewing | I just can't get this exten line to work properly, I know i've used similar to this before for another providor and it works fine, but * is not producing the number I want and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong: exten => _80[1-9].,1,Dial(IAX2/USER@NuFone/01144${EXTEN:2}) |
| 11:24.18 | gambolputty | :) |
| 11:25.00 | Bobby_Ewing | Basically, i'm typing 8 01723 366666 and hoping it'll send to nufone, 011 44 1723 366666 |
| 11:25.08 | Bobby_Ewing | but it just sends 01723 366666 the number i dialed |
| 11:25.58 | Jas_Williams | Bobby_Ewing: can you post your full extensions.conf to www.pastebin.com I think you are not getting to that line in your config |
| 11:26.30 | Bobby_Ewing | sure |
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| 11:28.41 | Bobby_Ewing | Jas_Williams: http://www.pastebin.com/88630 |
| 11:29.15 | zoa | jeej |
| 11:29.21 | zoa | 1,5second roundtrip times |
| 11:29.25 | zoa | what an isp |
| 11:29.39 | Bobby_Ewing | Jas: it's in the dialing_out context, from line 076 |
| 11:29.40 | zoa | it only costs 6 or 7.000 $ a month :/ |
| 11:30.59 | Jas_Williams | Bobby_Ewing: Look at line 89 onwards this catches the 8 anything before the 80 |
| 11:31.15 | Bobby_Ewing | so should i perhaps move the 80 stuff above it? |
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| 11:34.38 | Bobby_Ewing | darn, the _8 still caught it. I've commented it out, but now the one below it doesn't work for 001-US48 to just dial 1-US48 |
| 11:34.58 | PatrickDK | can you just post it to pastebin.com |
| 11:35.14 | PatrickDK | oh, heh, I didn't see the link |
| 11:35.37 | PatrickDK | heh, the _8. will always catch it |
| 11:35.44 | PatrickDK | cause it's in he dialing_out context |
| 11:35.56 | PatrickDK | it does the stuff in the current context before it goes to the includes |
| 11:36.01 | Bobby_Ewing | even if the _80 etc is before it int he context? |
| 11:36.10 | PatrickDK | it's an include |
| 11:36.14 | PatrickDK | so it's done last |
| 11:36.35 | PatrickDK | just make that stuff a new context |
| 11:36.40 | PatrickDK | and include it into dialing_out |
| 11:36.41 | Bobby_Ewing | Any work arounds you know of? |
| 11:36.50 | Bobby_Ewing | how do you mean |
| 11:36.58 | PatrickDK | make dialing_out only have includes |
| 11:36.59 | Bobby_Ewing | okay, but wont it still be the same issue |
| 11:37.07 | PatrickDK | nope |
| 11:37.10 | Bobby_Ewing | because i'm trying to do a few things |
| 11:37.15 | PatrickDK | if it would, I wouldn't tell you to do it |
| 11:37.35 | PatrickDK | you only put stuff in dialing_out that you want it to catch no matter what |
| 11:37.46 | PatrickDK | if you want it to catch the _8. last |
| 11:37.53 | PatrickDK | so it shouldn't be in there |
| 11:38.07 | Bobby_Ewing | 1) dial 8 then any number and follow it strictly, 2) dial 80[1-9] and dial 011 44 [1-9] number, and 3) dial 8001-number and send 1-number |
| 11:40.44 | PatrickDK | now look at the pastbin you posted |
| 11:40.51 | PatrickDK | http://www.pastebin.com/88634 |
| 11:40.58 | Bobby_Ewing | or for simplicities sake, should i just make it so that if you dial 8 then you just dial the US number and send the 1 anyway, and dial 7 to dial a UK number |
| 11:41.01 | Bobby_Ewing | Okay.. 1 min |
| 11:41.35 | PatrickDK | opps I forgot to include the other one |
| 11:41.53 | PatrickDK | include => catch_first |
| 11:42.01 | PatrickDK | before include => catch_general |
| 11:42.48 | PatrickDK | http://www.pastebin.com/88636 |
| 11:43.28 | Bobby_Ewing | the only problem now is that line 123 doesn't seem to be listened to, just line 122 |
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| 11:44.00 | DEVILoper | HI ALL |
| 11:44.06 | Bobby_Ewing | hi DEVILoper |
| 11:44.22 | PatrickDK | you daled 8001? |
| 11:44.26 | PatrickDK | cause it should |
| 11:44.33 | Bobby_Ewing | hold on, i'll try once more |
| 11:47.48 | Bobby_Ewing | shoot, now it's saying annot find extension context 'local-access' |
| 11:47.54 | Bobby_Ewing | but it's definately there |
| 11:50.47 | Bobby_Ewing | Pat: http://www.pastebin.com/88640 |
| 11:51.13 | Bobby_Ewing | looks like it's doing the context above maybe? or, do i need to perhaps strip some more characters |
| 11:51.17 | Bobby_Ewing | so exten:3 or 4 |
| 11:51.49 | PatrickDK | ya, strip 4 |
| 11:52.04 | Bobby_Ewing | great, that's done it :) |
| 11:53.13 | liversmudge | Cursor : FYI it looks like the zaptel drivers are the problem .. they compile, but then complain about being the wrong kernel etc for the drives ... for me due to the problem of the headers not being right on the kernel from FC2 and then when you remake them it calls the kernel by a differnet name ... so you realy need to compile a new kernel from scratch then the zap drivers compile |
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| 11:54.46 | puzzled | liversmudge: check /usr/src/linux/Makefile. It may have a version with "custom" added to it so the resulting drivers indeed expect a different running kernel. Remove custom from the version, rebuild the drivers and you should be set |
| 11:55.55 | puzzled | liversmudge: dunno for sure but maybe you'll hve to redo those steps in /usr/src/linux outlined on the wiki |
| 11:56.00 | [Sim] | *yawn* |
| 11:56.27 | liversmudge | I didi look there .. but .. you see I have a viaC3 chip set |
| 11:56.39 | liversmudge | so it changed from the default 686 to viac3 :) |
| 11:56.47 | Dobaj | I've got the same problem as liversmudge... I can't compile zaptel... I've linked /usr/src/linux-2.6.5-1.358 to linux-2.6 and it errors... any helpers? |
| 11:56.55 | liversmudge | I removed the custom bit in there at first |
| 11:57.01 | puzzled | Dobaj: link it to /usr/src/linux |
| 11:57.42 | liversmudge | Dobaj : you on FC2 |
| 11:57.55 | Dobaj | yes running FC2 |
| 11:58.45 | cursor | Yes, you need to recompile Zaptel every time you upgrade your kernel |
| 12:04.14 | liversmudge | or your whole kernel with a viac3 :( |
| 12:06.17 | morlac | can anybody help me please? my TE410p switch all LEDs off when drivers are loaded...I use RedHat 9 SMP kernel |
| 12:07.16 | DEVILoper | What is the MEaning of Yellow Alaram in PRI ? |
| 12:08.15 | DEVILoper | morlac: would u please tell the whole scenario. |
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| 12:08.19 | DEVILoper | ? |
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| 12:13.04 | DEVILoper | Would anyone help i m having this error and calls hangup immediately zt_pri_error: PRI: Read on 50 failed: Unknown error 500 |
| 12:17.24 | DEVILoper | anybody HOME ??????????// |
| 12:17.52 | hackit25 | nope... I am at work |
| 12:17.52 | puzzled | dunno, try google |
| 12:17.52 | hackit25 | heh |
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| 12:26.57 | Merlin23 | booo |
| 12:29.43 | DEVILoper | just as This Room, no one broke the ice on Google too |
| 12:29.59 | DEVILoper | and after goolging i send this query |
| 12:31.17 | puzzled | perhaps this one? http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-March/040502.html |
| 12:32.08 | morlac | Deviloper: The card was running perfectly, then I was told that there are no lights at all |
| 12:32.28 | morlac | Deviloper: Problem is the site is 200 miles away and I have to go and see it |
| 12:34.12 | morlac | DEVILoper:> I tried rebooting, rmmod and modprobe and nothing, still no red or green light |
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| 12:35.15 | dnc | morlac: you did load it with modprobe and then ztcfg didnt you? |
| 12:35.34 | DEVILoper | :)puzzled |
| 12:35.48 | DEVILoper | seen it i've the same settings |
| 12:35.59 | DEVILoper | it happens once in a blue moon |
| 12:36.04 | morlac | dnc: yes |
| 12:36.30 | morlac | dnc: actually, to install, I did make config |
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| 12:43.33 | maruz | senti |
| 12:43.35 | maruz | ops |
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| 12:44.27 | blitzrage_work | morning all |
| 12:44.39 | puzzled | morning blitzrage_work |
| 12:44.49 | blitzrage_work | puzzled: g'morn |
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| 12:45.09 | ScaredyCat | "This manual complements the Administrator Manual" - "ADMINISTRATOR MANUAL This manual has not been complete yet." |
| 12:45.16 | blitzrage_work | lol |
| 12:45.29 | puzzled | ScaredyCat: thou shall read the code at all times |
| 12:46.01 | ScaredyCat | puzzled: errm, yah, but you'd expect the admin manual first |
| 12:46.12 | puzzled | hehe |
| 12:46.34 | ScaredyCat | "At this point unixODBC has been installed by your System Administrator" - using the nonexistand admin manual i suppose |
| 12:46.35 | JunK-Y | morning all. |
| 12:46.42 | ScaredyCat | existant |
| 12:47.23 | Merlin23 | morning |
| 12:47.41 | Merlin23 | ScaredyCat: the nonexistant manual is always best |
| 12:47.47 | Darwin35 | so whats going on this am ? |
| 12:47.59 | ScaredyCat | well, there'd be no errors Merlin23 ... only omissions |
| 12:48.12 | Darwin35 | Merlin ? |
| 12:48.28 | Darwin35 | the voicemail ? |
| 12:48.33 | Merlin23 | yes Darwin? |
| 12:48.47 | Darwin35 | sorry was readiing what he said wrong |
| 12:48.51 | Darwin35 | dont mind me |
| 12:49.05 | Merlin23 | actually i just came in so i'm not really in tune with the current conversation :) |
| 12:49.23 | Darwin35 | nore am I |
| 12:49.29 | Darwin35 | I just woke up |
| 12:50.23 | puzzled | it's about a nice B&B in Florance, Italy |
| 12:52.50 | ScaredyCat | even if it does look a bit leathery |
| 12:52.57 | ScaredyCat | :) |
| 12:53.04 | puzzled | lol |
| 12:53.49 | Darwin35 | lol |
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| 13:07.50 | Markie | anyone know of any asterisk friendly voip providers that do LNP? |
| 13:08.05 | Markie | i'm about to dump broadvoice because of their lack-of-getting-anything-done |
| 13:09.50 | Darwin35 | broadvoice is doing alot |
| 13:10.05 | Darwin35 | but did you read the clause when you signed up to use * wiith them |
| 13:10.44 | Darwin35 | it says they can not openly support your device yyou use. but they give basic support to get it setup and woring |
| 13:10.51 | Darwin35 | with web page info |
| 13:11.10 | Darwin35 | and they have been doing alot to upgrade thier service |
| 13:11.20 | Darwin35 | they are trying to add ilbc |
| 13:11.48 | Darwin35 | and maybe iax. they have to discuss it a little more |
| 13:12.19 | Darwin35 | I have had btter service with broadvoice the anyone else for getting a local nmbr and srvice |
| 13:12.26 | Markie | thats fine. |
| 13:12.36 | Markie | but they still dont have online billing or LNP |
| 13:12.37 | Markie | . |
| 13:12.50 | Markie | i'd understand if they dont say they have it. |
| 13:12.53 | Darwin35 | they provide the connection and the nmbr to you and you do the rest with * |
| 13:13.06 | Markie | but thats the majority of what they advertize on their web site. |
| 13:13.09 | Darwin35 | online billing for what ? |
| 13:13.17 | Darwin35 | thats what your cdr is for |
| 13:13.19 | Markie | online CDR |
| 13:13.22 | Darwin35 | to track calls |
| 13:13.33 | Markie | not when they AVERTIZE it. |
| 13:13.36 | Darwin35 | are you on the 19.95 plan |
| 13:13.39 | Markie | advertize it. |
| 13:13.45 | Markie | doesnt matter. |
| 13:13.53 | Markie | their web page evne has directions for it. |
| 13:14.00 | Markie | http://www.broadvoice.com/features_online_billing.html |
| 13:14.05 | Markie | wtf |
| 13:14.30 | Markie | it's about saying you have something and not even coming close ot having it. |
| 13:14.39 | Markie | imnsho, it's fraud. |
| 13:14.52 | Markie | "Simply login to the BroadVoice web Portal and click on ACTIVITY or BILLING to access this information. |
| 13:14.52 | Markie | " |
| 13:15.13 | Markie | and: http://www.broadvoice.com/areacodes_keep_number.html |
| 13:15.17 | Markie | they dont have either. |
| 13:16.28 | dedd | Markie: what more do u want they are new and like many companies didn't finish sorting all their offerings before it went publicly available |
| 13:16.39 | cursor | So, what's good about Broadvoice then? |
| 13:16.45 | cursor | The unlimited plans? |
| 13:16.49 | Markie | dedd: dont say you have it when you dont. |
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| 13:17.02 | Darwin35 | and if they have it and your doing it wrong you will donate extra money |
| 13:17.03 | Markie | dedd: it's pretty simple. a simple HTML change to not put in that link. |
| 13:17.24 | Markie | Darwin35: absolutely. as soon as they have it, i'm signing up 2 additional accounts |
| 13:17.28 | Markie | and 5 DID numbers. |
| 13:17.48 | mlittle | Does anyone know of any -reliable- consultants for * or can anyone help me figure some things out? I have emailed/called a number of consultants, but no one has got back to me. |
| 13:17.50 | dedd | Markie: suit yourself i found more reliable ways to get what i want |
| 13:17.58 | dedd | mlittle: sure |
| 13:18.02 | Markie | dedd: how so? |
| 13:18.39 | Markie | Darwin35, right now i'm just testing it at home. as soon as it's OK, i'm going to move all of our offices to it. |
| 13:18.41 | file[laptop] | I even got one addressed to another person regarding asterisk and I still answered their e-mail |
| 13:19.25 | cursor | (mlittle) what is it that you need - perhaps you're asking for something strange and nobody can help |
| 13:20.00 | mlittle | I am not sure if my request can be completed, but I want to replace my existing voicemail system with *. I am running a Toshiba Strata with a TOshiba Stratagy voicemail. |
| 13:20.09 | Darwin35 | they have it |
| 13:20.18 | Darwin35 | you did not fallow the instructions |
| 13:20.22 | dedd | mlittle: that should be doable |
| 13:20.29 | Darwin35 | go reread and login to your account |
| 13:20.30 | cursor | yes - that sounds doable |
| 13:20.41 | cursor | I'm not an Asterisk consultant, by the way |
| 13:20.45 | cursor | I was just interested |
| 13:20.54 | Markie | Darwin35, they do? then how come when i emailed them about it last wednesday, they replied and said they didnt have it and there is not ETA for it. |
| 13:20.54 | mlittle | My manager wants to use the automated attendant, so ALL calls with be directed to the * machine. |
| 13:20.59 | Darwin35 | and fallow the instructions you have to choose a range of dates you want th einfo on |
| 13:21.03 | cursor | It sounds like the sort of thing consultants would do all the time |
| 13:21.15 | JunK-Y | if i've added one more X100P into a machine, how can i've 2 channels configured to use both? |
| 13:21.19 | dedd | mlittle: sounds like quite a bit of work |
| 13:21.32 | dedd | JunK-Y: in theory if u have a spare pots line for it |
| 13:21.46 | Markie | darwin35: choose a range of dates from WHERE? |
| 13:21.49 | cursor | It doesn't sound like an outlandish requirement |
| 13:22.00 | dedd | JunK-Y: make a macro to dial out and try 1 line then the other |
| 13:22.11 | file[laptop] | or you could use a group |
| 13:22.35 | dedd | file[laptop]: true |
| 13:22.42 | Darwin35 | hold a min trying to get back to the page |
| 13:22.56 | mlittle | I have * up and running, but I need to finalize one last item. If someone calls our company, they are prompted to enter an extension. What command/app would I use to transfer the call to the extension, BUT if there is no answer I want the call to go to voicemail. |
| 13:23.00 | Darwin35 | I logged oitu and now cant get back to the page |
| 13:23.08 | Markie | heh |
| 13:23.14 | drumkilla | mlittle: Goto |
| 13:23.15 | Markie | you have to close your browsers |
| 13:23.17 | dedd | mlittle: pattern matching in the extensions config |
| 13:23.19 | Markie | and log back in. |
| 13:23.25 | dedd | mlittle: and gotos can do it |
| 13:23.27 | Darwin35 | yes I am doing that |
| 13:23.29 | Markie | it wont let you log in if you still have browsers open |
| 13:23.34 | mlittle | If I use Dial, it appears to take up 2 ports. |
| 13:23.55 | Markie | Darwin35, i dont seem to have ANY links/menus/options for selectig a range of dates for calls. |
| 13:24.11 | drumkilla | mlittle: what do you mean? |
| 13:24.11 | Markie | Darwin35, in fact the ONY calls i can even see are through the "call manager" |
| 13:24.18 | mlittle | I will continue testing to see if it uses 2 ports for the entire call or if it hands off the call. |
| 13:24.34 | Markie | by clicking on "Call Log" in the call manager. |
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| 13:25.33 | drumkilla | mlittle: two ports of what |
| 13:26.25 | mlittle | drumkilla: if you call my company, you would come in to the * box on an analog port (analog on toshiba/fxo on tdm04b). Once you enter an extension, * calls that exten on another analog port. This causes 2 ports to be used. If I pick up the call, does * transfer the call or does the call continue to use the 2 ports. |
| 13:26.27 | JunK-Y | i'll recompile zaptel,libpri and * to see what,s happen |
| 13:26.51 | drumkilla | mlittle: it has to use both |
| 13:27.11 | drumkilla | mlittle: one port to your phone, one back to the PSTN |
| 13:27.17 | ariel_ | Trust |
| 13:27.32 | mlittle | how can i have it use 1 port, but still be able to drop the call in voicemail if no one answers at the exten? |
| 13:27.47 | dedd | mlittle: get ip phones =) |
| 13:27.50 | drumkilla | hehe |
| 13:27.57 | dedd | then only 1 pot line would be in use |
| 13:28.00 | drumkilla | if you ring the phone, the port is being used |
| 13:28.10 | drumkilla | no way around it ... |
| 13:28.21 | drumkilla | what bothers you about that? |
| 13:28.23 | mlittle | I was trying to find a way to use a timeout. if the call rings the exten for xx seconds, it goes to the next priority. |
| 13:28.31 | drumkilla | yeah, you can do that |
| 13:28.32 | dedd | just put a timeout in dial |
| 13:28.33 | dedd | =) |
| 13:28.38 | drumkilla | m hm |
| 13:29.07 | drumkilla | Dial(Zap/2,15) |
| 13:29.10 | drumkilla | where 15 is your timeout |
| 13:29.27 | Markie | I think i lost Darwin35 |
| 13:29.39 | dedd | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20cmd%20Dial |
| 13:30.02 | mlittle | the stratagy is being replaced because it only has 4 ports. If I use 2 tdm04b cards, it still would only allow 4 simultaneous connections. |
| 13:30.30 | mlittle | Using Dial uses 2 ports. |
| 13:30.38 | drumkilla | well that's just the way it works |
| 13:30.46 | drumkilla | i mean ... physically, you can't get around that |
| 13:30.51 | dedd | dial doesn't have to use pot lines if u had ip phones or another method for it to dial |
| 13:31.09 | drumkilla | it's going to take 2 if you use analog lines |
| 13:31.16 | dedd | drumkilla: agreed |
| 13:31.28 | mlittle | ok. I just wanted to hear that from someone. digium claims it can be done, but no one knows how or is willing to assist. |
| 13:31.43 | drumkilla | maybe you misunderstood them ... |
| 13:32.02 | dedd | mlittle: sure anything can be done but to fix your concern would would have to change how you configure your system |
| 13:32.28 | drumkilla | it takes an fxo to communicate with the PSTN, and an fxs to communicate with your phone |
| 13:33.27 | mlittle | I am still in the testing phase, so i am willing to make configuration changes. unfortunately, I am not connecting any phones to *. All the phones are digital toshiba phones. |
| 13:33.58 | dedd | well that creates most of your problem |
| 13:34.01 | dedd | right there |
| 13:34.14 | mlittle | This was the reason that I was trying to find a consultant. I even told the support dept at digium that we are willing to pay someone to work on this with me. |
| 13:34.25 | dedd | trying to leverage what you have which may or may not be the best fit |
| 13:34.40 | dedd | mlittle: i already msg'd u =) |
| 13:34.50 | mlittle | I have a "special" situation, but I was hoping that there was a way around it. |
| 13:35.14 | dedd | mlittle: from the looks of it no due to the nature of the resources u have to interface w/ |
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| 13:35.32 | dedd | without replacing equipment that u'd be more than reluctant to do |
| 13:36.09 | dedd | ariel_: thought u had a good job? |
| 13:36.14 | mlittle | I like the idea of using * for everything, but my manager wants to use live communications server |
| 13:36.31 | Dobaj | anyone got a X100P working with FC2 and willing to help me out? |
| 13:36.34 | dedd | mlittle: tough spot to be in |
| 13:36.47 | Markie | Darwin35 ? |
| 13:36.53 | mlittle | what is the maximum number of tdm04b cards that I can successfully put in to a server? |
| 13:37.02 | dedd | cause management gets what they want if you value your job |
| 13:37.11 | dedd | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.27 | dedd | no reason u couldn't do 2 * boxes linked by iax2 on the local lan though |
| 13:37.53 | dedd | really depends how many ports do u need |
| 13:38.06 | dedd | and when does it become effective to just get a t1 card and a channel bank |
| 13:38.18 | mlittle | I would like more than 8 since I use 2 per call. |
| 13:38.36 | mlittle | I was going to try installing 3 tdm04b cards. |
| 13:39.13 | litnimax | Dobaj: I got X100P working :) |
| 13:39.27 | mlittle | I will check on the pricing for a t1 card and channel bank |
| 13:39.47 | [Sim] | hey is the e164.org website down ? |
| 13:39.50 | dedd | mlittle: costs q uite a bit but if u need a large # of ports it probably will be better fitting |
| 13:39.54 | [Sim] | I'm only getting blank pages |
| 13:40.34 | sivana | ~seen jerjer |
| 13:40.36 | jbot | jerjer <~NunYoBizN@d1-197.rt-bras.che.centurytel.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 7d 15h 54m 13s ago, saying: 'RT'. |
| 13:41.44 | chuji | mlittle: you need to have the asterisk box hookflash, dial the extension on the switch, then release. Then the call leaves asterisk all together |
| 13:41.52 | sivana | anyone else not able to route through BroadVoice right now? |
| 13:42.35 | chuji | sivana: Mine is fine |
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| 13:42.52 | mlittle | chuji: I guess there is no way to have the caller go into voicemail if there is no answer. |
| 13:42.53 | sivana | Aug 3 09:42:57 WARNING[-192963664]: chan_sip.c:673 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call 25db8ba056c260b16fefbd555ba6b926@10.0.2.50 for seqno 102 (Critical Request) |
| 13:42.53 | sivana | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.01 | sivana | I get that on my screen when I try to dial out |
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| 13:43.16 | Blackthorn | Can you control the codec used to place calls to nuphone via your * box? |
| 13:43.40 | chuji | mlittle: sure, the toshiba phones will be forwarded back into the * box |
| 13:43.41 | dedd | Blackthorn: |
| 13:43.54 | chuji | they just need trailing digits programed |
| 13:44.00 | dedd | Blackthorn: yes disallow all in the nufone context in your box and just allow what u want in the order u prefer |
| 13:44.01 | chuji | Same way you do with the Stratagy |
| 13:44.19 | chuji | You will setup * exactly like you have the Stratagy |
| 13:44.34 | chuji | If you are just wanting to replace voicemail |
| 13:44.53 | Blackthorn | There is 12 hops between myself in nuphone the ping being bout 20-30ms each hop. Do you think any particular codec will work better? |
| 13:45.07 | mlittle | that is the goal. replace the stratagy and use the automated attendant |
| 13:45.21 | chuji | mlittle: You shouldn't have any problem with that |
| 13:45.35 | Darwin35 | ok back |
| 13:45.41 | chuji | Not done a hookflash on a zap channel, but I know it should be possible |
| 13:45.48 | mlittle | why do i need trailing digits? |
| 13:46.16 | chuji | mlittle: When the toshiba transfers the call back to asterisk, it has to tell it what voicemail box it is going to |
| 13:47.19 | RoyK | hm |
| 13:47.34 | mlittle | that is going to be the tricky part. all phone are setup CF-BN:xxx-770, where xxx is the exten and 770 is the hunt group for the voicemail ports |
| 13:47.41 | RoyK | can someone help me with zapata.conf for configuring a TE410 with asterisk, 4 PRIs, in norway? |
| 13:49.02 | Blackthorn | what is the proper way of "allow=g726/40" or g726-40 ? |
| 13:49.17 | mlittle | I will take a look at the system and reconfigure. Thanks everyone for your assistance. |
| 13:49.20 | maruz | 4 pri?? only?!? ;) |
| 13:49.40 | Blackthorn | and when you make your allow statements is it one codec per allow statement or is it allow=codec1,codec2 ? |
| 13:50.06 | RoyK | maruz: yeah |
| 13:51.17 | JunK-Y | http://www.pastebin.com/88664 |
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| 13:53.23 | JunK-Y | anyone have ideas ? |
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| 13:54.13 | oelewapperke | JunK-Y : leo ? |
| 13:54.36 | JunK-Y | leo? |
| 13:56.28 | PatrickDK | junky, you in us or france? |
| 13:56.49 | U_Got_Mail | Blackthorn: I do mine one codec per line... seems to work haven't tried the other way |
| 13:56.54 | JunK-Y | in quebec,Canada, so that's why i've added both language. |
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| 13:57.07 | PatrickDK | those aren't languages |
| 13:57.11 | PatrickDK | you can only do one |
| 13:57.18 | PatrickDK | do you use us signaling? |
| 13:57.22 | tzanger | what is the RJ "name" of those "small" 4 pin jacks that connect a headset to the phone itself? RJ11 is the normal-sized one, is it RJ11C? |
| 13:57.26 | JunK-Y | yes, us signal. |
| 13:58.04 | JunK-Y | so which lines i should remove exactly ? |
| 13:58.08 | PatrickDK | http://www.pastebin.com/88668 |
| 13:58.14 | JunK-Y | thx |
| 13:58.16 | PatrickDK | you didn't post your zapata.conf though |
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| 13:59.23 | JunK-Y | PatrickDK: wait, i'll modify my post |
| 14:00.34 | PatrickDK | others should work ok how youhad it, depending on the fr setting |
| 14:01.54 | JunK-Y | http://www.pastebin.com/88669 |
| 14:02.25 | PatrickDK | ah, y ou only have one channel configured in there |
| 14:03.09 | Markie | wheres the cheapest place to get a sipura ata adapter? |
| 14:03.16 | Markie | or are they all $99 everywhere? |
| 14:03.19 | dedd | spa 2000? |
| 14:03.22 | Markie | yea |
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| 14:03.29 | dedd | 95 at atacomm |
| 14:03.34 | JunK-Y | PatrickDK: cause i didnt know what to add exactly into that file. |
| 14:03.38 | Markie | hm. |
| 14:03.46 | Markie | i think i'll get it from pulver. |
| 14:03.52 | Markie | i like him. |
| 14:03.54 | dedd | ok |
| 14:03.55 | Markie | he's nice. |
| 14:03.57 | JunK-Y | channel => 2 |
| 14:03.58 | dedd | u asked |
| 14:04.01 | PatrickDK | http://www.pastebin.com/88671 |
| 14:04.03 | JunK-Y | ive added that line |
| 14:04.12 | PatrickDK | na, you have to duplicate everythin |
| 14:04.22 | Markie | MMmmm.......or do i get a grandstream????? |
| 14:04.33 | Markie | $65 for a GS |
| 14:04.48 | JunK-Y | PatrickDK: *CLI> -- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/2-1' |
| 14:04.51 | dedd | Markie: do u want to commit suicide or end up smashing it w/ ahammer |
| 14:04.54 | JunK-Y | with only my line |
| 14:04.59 | PatrickDK | ya, it will |
| 14:05.09 | PatrickDK | heh |
| 14:05.18 | PatrickDK | actually I think it keeps the settings |
| 14:05.20 | JunK-Y | but i should copy everything ya've pasted in 671 right ? |
| 14:05.23 | Markie | dedd: heh..so SPA it is :) |
| 14:05.28 | PatrickDK | it would keep it cleaner |
| 14:05.34 | dedd | Markie: do u have a nice pots phone? |
| 14:05.36 | Markie | dedd: GS is that bad? |
| 14:05.38 | PatrickDK | if you had to just make adjustments to one line |
| 14:05.42 | dedd | then spa is probably the better choice |
| 14:05.48 | Markie | dedd: umm...i got an ok normal pots phone. |
| 14:05.48 | PatrickDK | spa is nice |
| 14:05.56 | Markie | yea, i got spa at home..i like it. |
| 14:05.59 | PatrickDK | just alittle harder to do some things |
| 14:06.03 | dedd | and u will find the GS is a cheap phone |
| 14:06.09 | Markie | ok |
| 14:06.19 | dedd | got a cisco now |
| 14:06.20 | Markie | gonna order 2 spa's |
| 14:06.31 | dedd | going from the ghetto to royality |
| 14:06.32 | Markie | now all i need is a freeken voip provider that does LNP! |
| 14:06.39 | Markie | friggen voip. |
| 14:06.41 | dedd | Markie: easier said than done |
| 14:06.46 | Markie | dedd: tell me about it. |
| 14:06.52 | PatrickDK | lnp? |
| 14:07.04 | Alric | Local Number Portability |
| 14:07.08 | dedd | Markie: don't mind if i do spent better part of the last wk getting suppliers for dids and such |
| 14:07.16 | Alric | Basically you keep your number. |
| 14:07.21 | Markie | what i think i'm going to do is transfer our work # to my cell phone... |
| 14:07.21 | PatrickDK | ah, heh, I just need a reliable outgoing provider |
| 14:07.30 | Markie | (easier to transfer to a cell provider) |
| 14:07.36 | Markie | that'll "keep" our work # |
| 14:07.43 | Markie | then just get a new voip did # |
| 14:07.49 | Markie | and tell people our new # |
| 14:07.58 | Markie | but our old # will go to my cell if need be. |
| 14:08.02 | Blackthorn | what you set your allow statemetns up is it one allow per line or do you do allow=codec1, codec2? |
| 14:08.29 | Markie | i'll end up losing my personal cell # but i cna live with it. |
| 14:08.41 | JunK-Y | PatrickDK: and now, if i wanna dial to another extension(not the 2nd one, another one) when im dialing the 1st extension, i can do Dial(5912) ? |
| 14:09.13 | PatrickDK | no |
| 14:09.22 | dedd | Markie: that's 1 option |
| 14:09.23 | JunK-Y | no? |
| 14:09.49 | PatrickDK | Dial(ZAP/1/NUMBERTODIAL) |
| 14:09.51 | Markie | dedd: any other suggestions? (besides getting a PRI just to save the one phone number!! :) ) |
| 14:10.01 | PatrickDK | for second it's Dial(ZAP/2/NUMBER) |
| 14:10.04 | PatrickDK | I believe |
| 14:10.06 | DEVILoper | from where i'll get the Zttool i recently checkout the CVS but didn tfind it |
| 14:10.14 | PatrickDK | if you set group |
| 14:10.18 | JunK-Y | k, gonna make some tests. |
| 14:10.21 | PatrickDK | you can let it autoselect |
| 14:10.26 | PatrickDK | check out voip-info.org |
| 14:10.29 | JunK-Y | i didnt set group. |
| 14:10.31 | dedd | Markie: pm |
| 14:11.38 | sivana | is anyone using a prepaid calling card module? |
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| 14:13.20 | DEVILoper | from where i'll get Zttool ? |
| 14:13.35 | The_Duke | it comes with zaptel |
| 14:13.47 | The_Duke | download the latest zaptel sources from cvs |
| 14:14.39 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.40 | RoyK | Aug 3 15:34:06 NOTICE[1225991360]: app_dial.c:706 dial_exec: Unable to create channel of type 'Zap' |
| 14:14.40 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.41 | RoyK | ... |
| 14:15.32 | RoyK | and none of the 4 PRIs are in use |
| 14:16.41 | litnimax | surem you did not compile zaptel/zapata |
| 14:17.02 | litnimax | or did not define channels in zapata.conf |
| 14:17.20 | litnimax | you have chan_zap.so in modules? |
| 14:17.28 | RoyK | me? |
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| 14:18.01 | RoyK | litnimax: ? |
| 14:18.15 | litnimax | RoyK: yes |
| 14:18.38 | litnimax | cvs checkout zaptel |
| 14:18.43 | litnimax | cvs checkout zapata |
| 14:18.45 | RoyK | I have chan_zap, and I've done my best to onfigure them |
| 14:19.04 | litnimax | ok, did you load the modules ? :) |
| 14:19.05 | Bobby_e | We're having bad problems at the moment with outbound calls breaking up, but inbound is fine. Could anyone advise how we can go about debugging the problem? |
| 14:19.39 | Bobby_e | asterisk -> asterisk providor |
| 14:19.41 | Blackthorn | Does anyone know what codecs nuphone supports? |
| 14:19.59 | cursor | all of them |
| 14:20.07 | PatrickDK | nufone? I use ulaw and gsmwith them :) |
| 14:20.15 | cursor | Although I can't get SpeeX to work via them |
| 14:20.19 | Blackthorn | i'm using the ulaw right now and i'm breaking up pretty bad |
| 14:20.30 | cursor | bandwidth? |
| 14:20.31 | Bobby_e | Blackthorn: i'm having the same issue just now |
| 14:20.32 | cursor | QoS? |
| 14:20.42 | cursor | Try G.726 |
| 14:20.45 | Blackthorn | i tried using "alow=g.726" but * balked at it |
| 14:20.55 | cursor | 56k instead of 80k |
| 14:20.57 | cursor | g726 |
| 14:21.00 | cursor | not g.726 |
| 14:21.02 | file[laptop] | allow=g726 |
| 14:21.03 | Blackthorn | :) thanks |
| 14:21.10 | file[laptop] | only allows 32 right now... |
| 14:21.17 | cursor | I thought it did 40 |
| 14:21.32 | tzanger | Blackthorn: nufone supports pretty much all codecs |
| 14:21.38 | Bobby_e | we dont have any bandwidth issues - our line for asterisk is totally clear - but call quality is really bad with two providors so we think it's something our end - is there any way to debug the jitter setup to tweak it? |
| 14:21.41 | tzanger | gsm, ilbc, ulaw and g729 I've tested |
| 14:21.47 | file[laptop] | cursor: last I checked we only did 32... could have changed I suppose |
| 14:21.50 | Blackthorn | tos=reliablity |
| 14:21.55 | tzanger | Bobby_e: are you doing any kind of traffic shaping or prioritisation? |
| 14:22.01 | cursor | You're probably right |
| 14:22.02 | Bobby_e | tzanger: no |
| 14:22.04 | tzanger | Bobby_e: also what kind of uplink have you got |
| 14:22.07 | cursor | tos=0x18 |
| 14:22.29 | Bobby_e | tzanger: it's on it's own line - just a little 256 up |
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| 14:22.36 | Bobby_e | pings are fine, but calls are breaking up |
| 14:22.37 | Blackthorn | ok tired that and it did work a bit better |
| 14:22.40 | Blackthorn | er tried |
| 14:22.41 | cursor | what about down? 256 too? |
| 14:22.45 | Bobby_e | 512 |
| 14:22.56 | cursor | ok |
| 14:22.58 | cursor | dsl? |
| 14:23.02 | Bobby_e | yes |
| 14:23.06 | cursor | ok |
| 14:23.17 | Blackthorn | I havea 3 meg line, but i'm 12-16 hops from nuphone |
| 14:23.19 | Dobaj | ideas??? loader.c:242 ast_load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_zap.so: undefined symbol: ast_pickup_call |
| 14:23.19 | Dobaj | Aug 3 15:22:54 WARNING[-150540160]: loader.c:374 load_modules: Loading module chan_zap.so failed! |
| 14:23.24 | Blackthorn | most all pings are 20-30ms though |
| 14:23.49 | Bobby_e | our latency to one providor is 20ms, and to nufone is about 100ms or so - both are breaking up |
| 14:23.56 | bkw_ | Dobaj make clean then update then install again |
| 14:23.59 | cursor | I get 123 ms to NuFone |
| 14:24.05 | cursor | and 9ms to my local provider |
| 14:24.23 | tzanger | Bobby_e: latency is nothing |
| 14:24.27 | tzanger | jitter and packet loss is everything |
| 14:24.31 | cursor | yes |
| 14:24.35 | cursor | 123ms is fine |
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| 14:24.44 | cursor | because the jitter is acceptable |
| 14:24.46 | Bobby_e | there isn't any icmp packet loss |
| 14:24.50 | Bobby_e | but how can i debug the jitter |
| 14:24.57 | tzanger | Dobaj: your zapata.conf or zaptel.conf files are either broken, you didn't run ztcfg or your zaptel modules aren't loaded |
| 14:25.05 | cursor | type iax2 show channels |
| 14:25.07 | tzanger | Bobby_e: you don't, really :-) |
| 14:25.08 | cursor | while on a call |
| 14:25.15 | cursor | to see the jitter stats |
| 14:25.19 | cursor | well, a snapshot |
| 14:25.25 | tzanger | Bobby_e: what kind of DSL modem are you using |
| 14:25.37 | cursor | lag, current jitter and jitterbuf size |
| 14:25.42 | tzanger | it has been my experience that 99% of DSL modems out there are absolute crap |
| 14:25.45 | Bobby_e | it's a router - we've never had any issues with it until recently calls are breaking up - but the line is clear |
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| 14:26.05 | tzanger | the three I tested go to shit if I try sending more than 50% of my upload rate... they start buffering and VOIP takes a big stinky shit |
| 14:26.13 | Blackthorn | I curious about two possible bottlenecks. I'm using a Cisco 2501 router with a 3m connection which could be droping packets, or could be my asterisk box isn't powerfull enophe? Thoughts? |
| 14:26.15 | tzanger | Bobby_e: what kind of router |
| 14:26.33 | tzanger | Blackthorn: your 2501 gets to the 3M line how |
| 14:26.37 | Bobby_e | we've been setup for a few months or more but in the last 2/3 weeks calls - only outbound i might add - have gone down |
| 14:26.41 | Bobby_e | thomson |
| 14:26.46 | Bobby_e | inbound calls are perfect |
| 14:26.47 | Bobby_e | dont break up |
| 14:26.49 | tzanger | 2501 is a weak router but it handles a T1 without any problem |
| 14:26.52 | Bobby_e | only calls we place outbound |
| 14:26.54 | tzanger | Bobby_e: yes I know it's your uplink |
| 14:27.01 | Blackthorn | tzanger: bonded t1's |
| 14:27.16 | Bobby_e | the customer hears us fine when they calls, and vice versa |
| 14:27.19 | tzanger | Blackthorn: when you're having issues what does "sh proc" and "sh cont t1" show |
| 14:27.20 | Bobby_e | but when we call, calls break up |
| 14:27.28 | tzanger | Blackthorn: also take a look at sh int e0 |
| 14:27.42 | tzanger | Bobby_e: your outgoing audio is crap? (i.e. the other end complains) ? |
| 14:28.11 | Bobby_e | yes |
| 14:28.15 | Bobby_e | and we can't hear them either properly |
| 14:28.18 | Bobby_e | it jitters / breaks up |
| 14:28.30 | Bobby_e | but when we go out via the pstn line it's fine |
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| 14:28.47 | Bobby_e | and when anyone calls us, via iax2 providors too, its fine |
| 14:28.59 | tzanger | Bobby_e: try this first before we get too far -- unplug your network from the router -- just have *, the router and your provider |
| 14:29.06 | tzanger | no internet, no email, nothing but VOIP |
| 14:29.11 | Bobby_e | This is what iax2 show channels shows: 66.225.202.72 user 00009/00187 00003/00004 00000ms 0024ms 0055ms GSM |
| 14:29.20 | Bobby_e | tzanger: it's on a seperate subnet - no one else uses this router |
| 14:29.26 | Bobby_e | all our other computers / servers use a seperate router |
| 14:29.27 | tzanger | yeah 24ms lag, 55ms jitter, that's not bad |
| 14:29.37 | tzanger | Bobby_e: no I am talking about the link itself |
| 14:29.50 | tzanger | make it such that ONLY VOIP traffic is using the link -- nothing else |
| 14:30.08 | Blackthorn | e1 stats http://www.pastebin.com/88680 |
| 14:30.37 | Bobby_e | tzang: it is only voip traffic on that line - nothing else is plugged into the router - seperate ip address etc |
| 14:30.58 | tzanger | Bobby_e: there is ONLY voice traffic there? you are 100% positive |
| 14:31.02 | Bobby_e | yes |
| 14:31.13 | Bobby_e | i am sure - everything else runs through our main router |
| 14:31.14 | tzanger | that's not good |
| 14:31.20 | Bobby_e | we had that line installed just for asterisk |
| 14:31.23 | tzanger | and hyour main router is on a totally separate internet connection |
| 14:31.26 | Bobby_e | yes |
| 14:31.35 | Blackthorn | and then the multilink interface http://www.pastebin.com/88681 |
| 14:31.46 | zoa | tzanger: 55ms jitter |
| 14:31.48 | zoa | that is BAD |
| 14:32.21 | tzanger | zoa: I don't fully trust iax2 show channels to give me decent numbers -- I have had calls that supposedly have 655ms lag, 300ms jitter and they're perfect |
| 14:32.27 | tzanger | the numbers seem to climb as the call duration goes on |
| 14:32.27 | Bobby_e | 66.225.202.72 user 00002/00076 00006/00006 115540128ms 0134ms 0240ms GSM |
| 14:32.44 | Bobby_e | yeah |
| 14:32.44 | zoa | bobby_e: thats still a minor bug |
| 14:32.45 | zoa | :) |
| 14:32.50 | Bobby_e | how do you mean |
| 14:33.00 | tzanger | 115540128ms |
| 14:33.03 | zoa | tzanger: latest cvs'es should improve that |
| 14:33.06 | tzanger | hahah what is that, interplanetary calls :-) |
| 14:33.18 | Bobby_e | yeah , any idea why that's happening? |
| 14:33.21 | tzanger | yeah I haven't updated CVS in a while, I don't want to break everything here since you went to services.conf or whatever it was |
| 14:33.28 | cursor | I'm trying to find my way through chan_iax2.c |
| 14:33.29 | tzanger | Bobby_e: don't worry about that |
| 14:33.32 | Bobby_e | Peer Username ID (Lo/Rem) Seq (Tx/Rx) Lag Jitter JitBuf Format |
| 14:33.32 | Bobby_e | 66.225.202.72 b3group 00002/00076 00033/00029 115474589ms 0016ms 0044ms GSM |
| 14:33.37 | tzanger | Bobby_e: what DSL modem do you have |
| 14:33.42 | Bobby_e | it's a thomson router |
| 14:33.43 | tzanger | or does your DSL line plug directly into the router |
| 14:33.47 | Bobby_e | yes |
| 14:34.03 | tzanger | can the router be configured to proioritise packets? |
| 14:34.20 | Bobby_e | most likely yes, but this is the only traffic on the line |
| 14:34.34 | tzanger | If not, pick up a WRT54G for like $80, put openwrt or sveasoft's stuff on it and go to town |
| 14:34.44 | Bobby_e | so i've never seen any reason to go into any configs |
| 14:34.45 | tzanger | Bobby_e: agreed but I am wondering if the router is going bonkers |
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| 14:35.00 | Bobby_e | why would it only just start happening? |
| 14:35.04 | tzanger | Bobby_e: as I said I've run itno some really craptastic systems where they seem to delay packets for no reason whatsoever |
| 14:35.08 | cursor | I anyone here familiar with chan_iax2.c? |
| 14:35.10 | tzanger | Bobby_e: have you rset the router? |
| 14:35.12 | tzanger | cursor: no |
| 14:35.21 | tzanger | Blackthorn: that's a lot of collisisons |
| 14:35.23 | zoa | cursor: someone on the mailinglist is |
| 14:35.30 | Bobby_e | yes - the other day infact after it started happening. I could try resetting it again justnow |
| 14:35.31 | zoa | ask it on the asterisk-dev mailinglist |
| 14:35.38 | tzanger | 1.6mil collisions in 10 days |
| 14:35.46 | cursor | It's ok - I can find my way through |
| 14:36.10 | Blackthorn | collisions on the local ethernet is that what your seeing? |
| 14:36.11 | vaewyn | That many collisions you have a SERIOUS wiring issue |
| 14:36.26 | cursor | I just wanted to run something by someone if there was a chan_iax2.c person here |
| 14:36.32 | tzanger | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.37 | tzanger | that was the T1 wasn't it? |
| 14:36.47 | cursor | It'll take me longer to email and wait for the reply than to work it out |
| 14:36.55 | RoyK | kram? |
| 14:37.17 | Bobby_e | 4 bytes from 66.225.202.72: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=138 ms - that latency doesnt seem too bad |
| 14:37.25 | Blackthorn | no it was the ethernet side that was the collections. |
| 14:37.39 | Blackthorn | er collisions |
| 14:37.41 | tzanger | use a switch not a hub |
| 14:37.49 | tzanger | or turn off fdx on the switch port since the 2501 can't do it (IIRC) |
| 14:38.12 | Blackthorn | i'm using two swtiches on each side of the server room. one cisco and one netgear |
| 14:38.33 | tzanger | turn off autonegotiate -- go to 10/half |
| 14:38.41 | Blackthorn | ok willdo |
| 14:38.41 | tzanger | well try 10/full and see if the 2501 can do it |
| 14:38.44 | tzanger | conf t |
| 14:38.45 | tzanger | in e0 |
| 14:38.48 | tzanger | full-duplex |
| 14:38.49 | tzanger | end |
| 14:38.51 | Bobby_e | okay I rebooted the router: 66.225.202.72 b3group 00001/00148 00027/00018 115409076ms 0170ms 0189ms GSM |
| 14:38.53 | tzanger | see if it can do it |
| 14:39.41 | tzanger | Bobby_e: how are outgoing calls |
| 14:39.46 | Bobby_e | still bad |
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| 14:40.09 | Markie | why the heck is everythign by defualt autonegotiate...but thats like the WORSt thing |
| 14:40.09 | tzanger | configure ONE computer to go through this connection and grab a copy of PingPlotter |
| 14:40.17 | Markie | and it should be manually full or half duplex |
| 14:40.18 | tzanger | Markie: because it's Easy For the User :-) |
| 14:40.20 | Markie | such a pain in the butt |
| 14:40.40 | Markie | i have 2 dozen switches. had to change them all to 100M/full |
| 14:40.43 | Markie | EVERY port |
| 14:40.50 | tzanger | Markie: yeah it's a pain |
| 14:40.52 | Markie | friggen pain in the ass |
| 14:41.01 | Markie | and it's not like 100M/full is new |
| 14:41.02 | tzanger | I have a bunch of BayStack 450/24s |
| 14:41.13 | Markie | almost everything in the past 10 years is 100M/full |
| 14:41.15 | Bobby_e | is there any jitterbug configs i can put in iax.conf that may help or not? |
| 14:41.22 | tzanger | bobby disable jitter buffer |
| 14:41.26 | tzanger | jitterbuffer=0 |
| 14:41.28 | Bobby_e | is it disabled by default |
| 14:41.29 | zoa | bobby its not 100% jitter safe yet |
| 14:41.33 | zoa | although its getting better |
| 14:41.45 | tzanger | jitterbuffer=no rather |
| 14:41.52 | tzanger | zoa I can't use it with trunking :-) |
| 14:42.14 | tzanger | yourvoice....startsto....soundliek.....thiswhen.....jitt....erbuff....eris....enabl....ed.... |
| 14:42.15 | zoa | tzanger: i can here |
| 14:42.30 | zoa | tzanger: report it on the mantis then please |
| 14:42.35 | zoa | and try again with latest cvs |
| 14:42.39 | tzanger | zoa well like I said I'm using older cvs |
| 14:42.41 | zoa | as davis changed something |
| 14:42.49 | tzanger | *CLI> show version |
| 14:42.49 | tzanger | Asterisk CVS-HEAD-06/29/04-16:28:09 built by root@wanderer on a i686 running Linux |
| 14:43.04 | zoa | thats not a big upgrade ! |
| 14:43.10 | tzanger | nufone has jitter buffer turned off too IIRC |
| 14:43.17 | tzanger | zoa: it's big enough... services.conf :-) |
| 14:43.28 | Bobby_e | okay jitterbuffer is off - still the same call quality |
| 14:43.33 | tzanger | did you reload *? |
| 14:43.38 | zoa | restart it |
| 14:43.39 | tzanger | er not reload, restart |
| 14:43.45 | zoa | i'm not sure it works fine with a reload |
| 14:43.49 | Bobby_e | 00010/00181 00038/00029 23267877ms 1602ms 0500ms GSM |
| 14:43.49 | tzanger | no it doesn't |
| 14:43.59 | tzanger | iax.conf is a restart-read only |
| 14:44.15 | Bobby_e | 00010/00181 00038/00029 23267877ms 1602ms 0500ms GSM |
| 14:44.21 | Bobby_e | keeps getting worse |
| 14:44.26 | Blackthorn | this 2501 is using an aui port and in the int e0 i don't see anywhere to set full/half or auto |
| 14:44.27 | Bobby_e | 1704ms |
| 14:44.29 | JunK-Y | Transfer use the current channel to transfer the call ? |
| 14:44.39 | tzanger | what are the three times? |
| 14:44.39 | vaewyn | aui port? egads! |
| 14:44.47 | tzanger | my copy of * only reports two -- lag and jitter |
| 14:44.51 | Bobby_e | Lag Jitter JitBuf |
| 14:44.55 | tzanger | ahh |
| 14:44.58 | Bobby_e | i'll restart asterisk as you say |
| 14:45.00 | tzanger | jitter buffer's still turned on Bobby_e |
| 14:45.03 | Blackthorn | got aui-rj-45 adapter on it |
| 14:45.26 | vaewyn | egads... this is the 2000s... get some new hardware :P |
| 14:45.50 | Blackthorn | sounds like i need to buy a bit better router |
| 14:45.52 | tzanger | Blackthorn: :-) |
| 14:45.53 | sivana | what's a good script for mIRC? |
| 14:46.06 | tzanger | sivana: irssi :-) |
| 14:46.14 | tzanger | Blackthorn: oh yeah I forgot the 2501s used that |
| 14:46.21 | sivana | thanks t :) |
| 14:46.26 | tzanger | Blackthorn: |
| 14:46.27 | tzanger | conf t |
| 14:46.28 | tzanger | in e0 |
| 14:46.30 | tzanger | full-duplex |
| 14:46.30 | tzanger | end |
| 14:46.37 | tzanger | are there any errors in that set of commands? |
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| 14:46.45 | Bobby_e | tzang: it's still saying there is a jitterbuffer |
| 14:46.46 | Bobby_e | -300285812ms 0080ms 0202ms |
| 14:47.00 | Blackthorn | yes it errors, not such command when you do a help |
| 14:47.01 | tzanger | Bobby_e: pastebin your iax.conf (remove any passwords) |
| 14:47.04 | sivana | tzanger: does it work with mIRC? |
| 14:47.12 | tzanger | sivana: it's an irc client |
| 14:47.15 | Bobby_e | but it's definately =no in iax.conf. i also stop now'd, then started it again |
| 14:47.26 | sivana | tzanger: I see.. I just need a shell for mIRC :) |
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| 14:47.29 | tzanger | Bobby_e: iax.conf doesn't have any OTHER jitter buffer settings anywhere? |
| 14:47.40 | tzanger | sivana: :-) I haven't used MIRC in over 7 years now |
| 14:47.58 | tzanger | not since you could clikc on mardem-bey's nose and get a squeak |
| 14:48.11 | tzanger | 29ms lag to nufone... awww yeah |
| 14:48.13 | sivana | tzanger: ya, kinda old school.. used them way back in the day when the internet was free |
| 14:48.19 | Bobby_e | tzang: not as far as I can see, but i'll paste away |
| 14:48.46 | tzanger | :-) indeed |
| 14:49.06 | Blackthorn | i do have a cisco 5300 access server with t1 ports.. maybe i should try it that way |
| 14:49.22 | tzanger | Blackthorn: let's see what we can get the 2500 do do |
| 14:49.41 | Bobby_e | tzanger: http://pastebin.com/88684 |
| 14:49.42 | Blackvel | is queueing = turning loop ? can be music on hold be used for it ? |
| 14:49.42 | tzanger | ok so you can't do full duplex with the 2501 -- make sure the switch the AUI's plugged in to does not have that port set to FDX.. force 10/half |
| 14:50.01 | JunK-Y | whats the difference between transfer and dial (if both are used for extensions) ? |
| 14:50.46 | Blackthorn | wish i could but this netgear switch seems to be unmanaged |
| 14:50.51 | tzanger | Bobby_e: hmmm that loos fine |
| 14:50.54 | tzanger | er looks fine |
| 14:50.58 | tzanger | Blackthorn: ugh |
| 14:51.08 | Blackthorn | so i need to get some equipment upgrades i can see |
| 14:51.12 | Bobby_e | tzang: what would you like me to try next? |
| 14:51.40 | tzanger | jitter buffer definitely looks disabled |
| 14:51.52 | tzanger | unless the jitterbuffer= command has changed in recent CVS |
| 14:51.55 | tzanger | zoa? do you know? |
| 14:52.02 | Bobby_e | -300220259ms 0062ms 0073ms GSM |
| 14:52.15 | Bobby_e | I'm using CVS-HEAD-07/16/04- |
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| 14:52.41 | Bobby_e | it keeps getting worse: 1239ms 1001ms |
| 14:52.56 | tzanger | and nothing's changed on the router since it was working |
| 14:52.59 | zoa | tzanger: it changed recently |
| 14:53.03 | Bobby_e | yeah, nothing's changed |
| 14:53.05 | zoa | changes were made to the jitter buffer |
| 14:53.08 | tzanger | zoa: what's the new command? |
| 14:53.10 | zoa | jitter buffer is a lot better now |
| 14:53.11 | tzanger | or is it still jitterbuffer= |
| 14:53.14 | zoa | no new commands |
| 14:53.20 | zoa | oh well, some extra commands |
| 14:53.23 | tzanger | Bobby_e: for shits and giggles try jitterbuffer=0 |
| 14:53.23 | JunK-Y | whats wrong with this: exten => s,3,Transfer(5912); ??? |
| 14:53.26 | tzanger | instead of =0 |
| 14:53.27 | zoa | cvs co new cvs |
| 14:53.27 | zoa | :) |
| 14:53.28 | tzanger | er instead of =no |
| 14:53.38 | tzanger | zoa I know but my usb drive with the code on it's at home |
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| 14:53.48 | tzanger | and issue "restart when convenient" |
| 14:53.53 | zoa | jitterbuffer=no |
| 14:53.53 | zoa | dropcount=1 |
| 14:53.53 | zoa | maxjitterbuffer=300 |
| 14:53.53 | zoa | maxexcessbuffer=100 |
| 14:53.53 | zoa | jittershrinkrate=1 |
| 14:53.58 | zoa | are the options |
| 14:54.27 | file[laptop] | JunK-Y: you don't put a semi colon at the end? |
| 14:54.29 | tzanger | zoa yeah the only one there I see that's new is the shrink rate |
| 14:54.38 | tzanger | which you'd want fairly small so as to make it not "jump" |
| 14:54.44 | Blackvel | any cvs junkies here ? i need some help to find out in what best way i can find files which i have to patch (i dont know what files Mark has patched to bugfix sip hangup workaround) |
| 14:54.47 | tzanger | 50ms per second is still fairly fast |
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| 14:55.14 | zoa | blackvel: there is a logfile |
| 14:55.17 | JunK-Y | file: it doesnt make a difference in the extensions.conf |
| 14:55.18 | zoa | somewhere on the web |
| 14:55.20 | zoa | with cvs logs |
| 14:55.45 | file[laptop] | JunK-Y: it's still good not to :p cause you're the first person I've seen to ever use one |
| 14:55.54 | JunK-Y | really ? |
| 14:56.00 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 14:56.06 | Blackvel | well, i know he did patching app_dial.c + chan_sip.c but is there any way to find more files he checked in with a special comment ? |
| 14:56.24 | Blackvel | like i want to find all files which have been checked in on 07/28/04 and have comment "x" |
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| 14:56.41 | JunK-Y | do i need to answer before call the application Transfer ? |
| 14:56.43 | Blackvel | its almost impossible for me to find out what files i have to manually patch |
| 14:56.51 | Bobby_e | tzang: it's absolutely terrible now |
| 14:58.05 | Blackthorn | i have an older 10 meg managed switch here.. i could put that online. do you tin the 10 meg vers the 100 would make any differance in performance? and should i set all ports to half duplex to avoid collisions? |
| 14:58.32 | Blackthorn | think the 10 meg versus |
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| 14:59.00 | tzanger | Bobby_e: what's the "iax2 show channels" show now? |
| 14:59.09 | tzanger | 0ms jitter buffer? |
| 14:59.45 | Bobby_e | 28050268ms 0387ms 4748ms GSM |
| 14:59.53 | liversmudge | hey I get that |
| 15:00.05 | Bobby_e | no, it's still listing for jitterbuffer |
| 15:00.07 | liversmudge | high lag |
| 15:00.16 | liversmudge | same here |
| 15:00.27 | tzanger | Bobby_e: wtf |
| 15:00.34 | tzanger | tha'ts gotta be a bug |
| 15:00.41 | Bobby_e | tzanger: i know.. i dont know what it is |
| 15:00.46 | liversmudge | bobby_e tzanger .... can you fill me in on the problem? |
| 15:00.51 | Bobby_e | shall i update asterisk at all? |
| 15:01.01 | Bobby_e | liversmudge: all our outbound calls are screwey |
| 15:01.11 | Bobby_e | breaking up, real bad jitter, even with jitterbug disabled |
| 15:01.16 | Bobby_e | but inbound is fine |
| 15:01.21 | Bobby_e | via iax2 for both |
| 15:01.29 | liversmudge | are you peering accross iax to term on a host then out bound ? |
| 15:01.31 | tzanger | along with your 7 hour lag :-) |
| 15:01.39 | Bobby_e | yeah |
| 15:01.41 | Bobby_e | heh |
| 15:01.46 | liversmudge | exactly what I have |
| 15:02.00 | liversmudge | what switches you using .. dont laff |
| 15:02.10 | Bobby_e | it's a Dlink switch |
| 15:02.46 | Bobby_e | the router has some spare network ports - i could plug the phone server straight into it, then another ethernet drop to the switches where the phones are connected to |
| 15:03.03 | Bobby_e | it's only when we're going iax2 -> iax providor -> outbound |
| 15:03.05 | Bobby_e | not the other way around |
| 15:03.16 | liversmudge | if you plug int the router ... are your calls ok? |
| 15:03.18 | Bobby_e | and all internal calls - or voip to say the other office are fine |
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| 15:03.35 | Bobby_e | I haven't tried yet, but i think it will be the same - the switch doesn't look lagged out or anything |
| 15:03.49 | Bobby_e | i can try that now |
| 15:04.20 | liversmudge | right here is what I have |
| 15:04.34 | steveccc | can anyone spare a min to discuss the voip and cisco telephones - i am interested in knowing the basics |
| 15:05.05 | liversmudge | we have a basement with an * box and adsl router ... this conncts to 1 netgear switch .. from this it flys up 2 floors to another netgear switch |
| 15:05.51 | liversmudge | in the basement we can make calls ... CLEAR calls |
| 15:05.58 | liversmudge | upstairs we cannot |
| 15:06.52 | liversmudge | now I have had my man in the basement directly connect the * box to the upstairs switch .. and CALL are CLEAR |
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| 15:07.36 | Bobby_e | well |
| 15:07.56 | Bobby_e | we have a 1m cable from the * box to the switch |
| 15:07.59 | Bobby_e | then 1m to the router |
| 15:08.00 | liversmudge | sorry no we can make 1 call out clearly other calls are jittery |
| 15:08.15 | tzanger | liversmudge: are you using trunking? |
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| 15:08.24 | Bobby_e | phone is only 3m away |
| 15:08.30 | Bobby_e | i've just plugged * directly into the router |
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| 15:08.36 | Bobby_e | now i'm going to see how it works now |
| 15:09.04 | Bobby_e | nope, it's just as bad |
| 15:09.06 | expousr | morning all. |
| 15:09.07 | JunK-Y | if i've to dial 9 to get out of the current local phone systems, i've dialexten => s,3,Dial(Zap/2/94993655) |
| 15:09.12 | JunK-Y | whats wrong ? |
| 15:09.43 | Xander7 | when asterisk (acting as a SIP client) registers with a sip server, how do you tell it to use another IP for itself? As in, asterisk is behind NAT so must register with its external IP |
| 15:09.46 | tzanger | you're using it in an 's' extension for starters |
| 15:09.58 | Blackvel | Xander7: externip + localnet |
| 15:10.16 | JunK-Y | tzanger: so whats ive to do exactly ? |
| 15:10.22 | Xander7 | how do you specify them in the 'register =>'... line? |
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| 15:10.41 | tzanger | JunK-Y: who's your voip provider |
| 15:10.42 | Blackvel | Xander7: you dont, you use them in [general] section |
| 15:10.45 | liversmudge | what phone you using bobby |
| 15:10.56 | Xander7 | Blackvel: ok cheers |
| 15:11.01 | JunK-Y | tzanger: i dont have one, its my own asterisk box. |
| 15:11.45 | expousr | anyone having any good pricing on 7960's (looking for ~3 for a product demo, then 100-150 to start :) ) |
| 15:11.48 | Bobby_e | they are gs phones, but i have tried from software phones and they are the same |
| 15:13.34 | liversmudge | gs |
| 15:13.36 | liversmudge | ah |
| 15:14.49 | liversmudge | ok |
| 15:14.54 | liversmudge | we have gs phones |
| 15:14.59 | liversmudge | some seem to work some dont |
| 15:15.26 | DEVILoper | Hi I m having this Error any help pri_dchannel: PRI got event: 4 on span 2 and ongoing call hangup |
| 15:15.41 | DEVILoper | any help |
| 15:15.43 | liversmudge | shit |
| 15:17.39 | avtech-mjc | Hi all - does anyone know if it is possible to use the LED buttons on the SNOM 200 to show the status of call parking slots? |
| 15:18.02 | sivana | load -rs afternight\dalnet.mrc |
| 15:18.22 | zoa | avtech-mjc: i heard its possible |
| 15:18.43 | sivana | .load |
| 15:18.54 | tzanger | JunK-Y: so what mulitple calls are you having |
| 15:19.24 | JunK-Y | tzanger: i dont understand ur question, my installed my second card this morning |
| 15:19.48 | tzanger | ... what card? |
| 15:20.05 | tzanger | oh sorry JunK-Y I was confusing you riwth someone else :-) |
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| 15:20.47 | JunK-Y | Executing Dial("Zap/1-1", "Zap/2/93449490") in new stack |
| 15:20.47 | JunK-Y | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.47 | JunK-Y | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.47 | JunK-Y | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.47 | JunK-Y | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.00 | JunK-Y | i need to press 9 to get out of our local phone system |
| 15:21.13 | JunK-Y | i wonder why 9 with my number isnt working. |
| 15:21.55 | liversmudge | right I have 2 out of 7 (new) gs phones working fine on out going calls |
| 15:22.02 | liversmudge | all the other jitter to F**K |
| 15:22.09 | Bobby_e | jzangler: do you recommend anything else to try and resolve our issue? |
| 15:22.33 | DEVILoper | any help |
| 15:22.33 | DEVILoper | ?? |
| 15:22.43 | cursor | I've sent in my iax2/codec question to the dev list |
| 15:23.35 | cursor | I would normally just write the code and present that instead, but I won't this time |
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| 15:25.43 | Bobby_e | liversmudge: do you think it's the phones in my case, or * - because when they jitter and i check on *, the times are way up compared to when everything's fine |
| 15:26.16 | Bobby_e | it's fine when it goes out via our pstn line |
| 15:26.30 | Bobby_e | and when we Receive calls - via iax from our providor |
| 15:26.49 | DEVILoper | junky Show ur extensions.conf |
| 15:28.31 | Bobby_e | should I try updating asterisk to the latest cvs at all? |
| 15:28.49 | maruz | cursor: may you give a look to http://www.pastebin.com/88695 ? |
| 15:29.49 | cursor | in a moment |
| 15:29.49 | maruz | cursor: the second check should be against "0", isn't it? |
| 15:30.07 | *** join/#asterisk flewid (~none@216.209.84.151) |
| 15:30.09 | maruz | it's an excerpt of chan_capi |
| 15:30.17 | RoyK | anyone used zaphfc with 2.6? |
| 15:31.18 | gr0mit | yes. |
| 15:31.24 | gr0mit | i abandoned it |
| 15:31.57 | tzanger | Bobby_e: that is odd that receiving calls is fine from your IAX provider... but sending to them isn't... they're noth two-way calls |
| 15:32.55 | Bobby_e | i know, that's what has me stumped! |
| 15:33.11 | Bobby_e | i thought it was them at first, but then two are doing the same, so I dont think it can be |
| 15:33.18 | bkw_ | first who is the provider? |
| 15:33.43 | Bobby_e | nufone and voiptalk |
| 15:33.59 | bkw_ | what asterisk version? |
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| 15:34.03 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ |
| 15:34.07 | Bobby_e | from 07/16 |
| 15:34.11 | bkw_ | update |
| 15:34.12 | Bobby_e | i'm updating it now |
| 15:34.24 | gr0mit | hi - anyone using the L command to hang up a Local channel? |
| 15:34.27 | Bobby_e | but i updated a few weeks ago when this first started happening, before 07/16 |
| 15:34.29 | liversmudge | bobbyits not just you bobby .... to add a further stump |
| 15:34.54 | bkw_ | god damn it |
| 15:34.54 | twisted | mornin |
| 15:34.56 | bkw_ | one nick |
| 15:34.57 | liversmudge | I have 7 phones all on the same firmware ... and 2 work on outgoing calls |
| 15:35.00 | bkw_ | THATS ALL ANYONE needs |
| 15:35.20 | bkw_ | Bobby you have a local issue if you have problems... thats all it can be |
| 15:35.24 | gr0mit | I call out on a Zap chan, then send the call to a Local/xxx chan with a L() parameter to kill the call after n ms |
| 15:35.26 | bkw_ | i'm not seeing any issues with nufone |
| 15:35.50 | Bobby_e | yes, i know it's something to do with my setup, but I dont know what.. i didn't change anything before it started happening, and only updated asterisk to try and resolve it last month |
| 15:35.56 | gr0mit | but * seems to kill the second call and hand the dest over to the local channel. |
| 15:36.01 | bkw_ | describe the problem again |
| 15:36.11 | Bobby_e | outbound calls placed via iax jitter badly |
| 15:36.18 | Bobby_e | inbound via the same iax providors are absolutely fine |
| 15:36.18 | bkw_ | via nufone? |
| 15:36.24 | bkw_ | or voiptalk? |
| 15:36.26 | Bobby_e | calls in/out on pstn line are fine |
| 15:36.27 | Bobby_e | both |
| 15:36.27 | bkw_ | which one will jitter? |
| 15:36.29 | Bobby_e | both |
| 15:36.34 | bkw_ | disable your jitter buffer |
| 15:36.39 | bkw_ | totally turn it off |
| 15:36.42 | bkw_ | you have no need for it |
| 15:36.45 | zoa | bkw_: he tried it |
| 15:36.47 | zoa | didnt help |
| 15:36.48 | Bobby_e | we have - tzanger has been working with me on it for a while now |
| 15:36.51 | zoa | and with 55ms he does need it |
| 15:36.52 | zoa | :) |
| 15:36.57 | bkw_ | you have shit hardware then. |
| 15:37.02 | bkw_ | no the jitter is totally WRONG |
| 15:37.03 | twisted | *sigh* |
| 15:37.06 | zoa | no you have a shit provider |
| 15:37.12 | Bobby_e | it was going all the way upto 1000/2000 etc |
| 15:37.12 | zoa | bkw: the jitter buffer is getting better |
| 15:37.16 | zoa | after davies changes |
| 15:37.23 | Bobby_e | nothing has changed our end |
| 15:37.26 | Bobby_e | that i know of |
| 15:37.38 | zoa | bobby: you probably just don't have enough bw |
| 15:37.41 | Bobby_e | and our telecom providor is great |
| 15:37.44 | Bobby_e | it's on it's own line |
| 15:37.44 | zoa | try measuring your bandwidth |
| 15:38.16 | tzanger | bkw_: damn must be one hell of a nic ejob :-) |
| 15:39.03 | bkw_ | tzanger it sure as hell is better then arguing with a fence post :P |
| 15:39.03 | zoa | bkw_ is make an inventary of his tools |
| 15:39.05 | zoa | it has to be done |
| 15:39.12 | bkw_ | kewl |
| 15:39.14 | Bobby_e | asterisk is the only thing connected to the router for that connection |
| 15:39.39 | zoa | yes |
| 15:39.41 | zoa | bobby |
| 15:39.44 | zoa | but what is your bandwidth |
| 15:39.50 | Bobby_e | 256 up, 512 down |
| 15:39.58 | zoa | did you measure it ? |
| 15:40.25 | tzanger | zoa: I went through these checks wiht him, the only thing I can think of is that router's being bitchy but it doesn't make sense that incoming calls from nufone are clear but outgoing calls through nufone aren't |
| 15:40.30 | tzanger | oh wait |
| 15:40.36 | tzanger | nufone DIDs come through a different IP than switch-1 |
| 15:40.49 | zoa | try to iperf it |
| 15:40.49 | Bobby_e | i have done in the past, i'd have to hook up a machine to the router and try again now if you think we need it - but why would inbound using the same bandwidth be fine? and calls between two locations are fine too |
| 15:41.10 | zoa | tzanger: that is what i get with an overused ADSL too |
| 15:41.25 | zoa | because inbound is usually better |
| 15:41.26 | tzanger | zoa: really, that is odd |
| 15:41.34 | zoa | because you have better download speed |
| 15:41.35 | tzanger | zoa: it's the same bandwidth in both directions |
| 15:41.36 | zoa | no its not odd |
| 15:41.39 | tzanger | yes it is |
| 15:41.40 | zoa | no its not |
| 15:41.43 | tzanger | heh yes it is :-) |
| 15:41.46 | zoa | he only has 256 up |
| 15:41.49 | zoa | 512 down |
| 15:41.50 | tzanger | zoa doesn't matter |
| 15:41.56 | zoa | so if his 256 is actually 32 |
| 15:41.59 | zoa | he has a problem |
| 15:42.01 | tzanger | he is STILL consuming the same bps/pps on an inbound call as he is outbound |
| 15:42.13 | tzanger | a call takes up the same bandwidth regardless of which direction it was made |
| 15:42.17 | zoa | yes |
| 15:42.30 | zoa | i don't talk about the call taking up more bandwidth in one direction |
| 15:42.41 | zoa | but i suspect the link of not being symmetric enough |
| 15:42.42 | zoa | :) |
| 15:42.52 | bkw_ | that has shit to do with it |
| 15:42.53 | zoa | well i suspect he has a problem with upstream traffic |
| 15:42.57 | bkw_ | I have 1.5x384k |
| 15:42.57 | zoa | its what i see very often |
| 15:43.02 | zoa | with belgian adsls |
| 15:43.02 | bkw_ | and we host a conf on it every night |
| 15:43.07 | zoa | bkw yes |
| 15:43.13 | zoa | but eg in belgium we have only 128kbit |
| 15:43.18 | zoa | maximum |
| 15:43.19 | bkw_ | it has shit to do with the symmetry of the line |
| 15:43.21 | zoa | not reservec |
| 15:43.24 | zoa | not reserved |
| 15:43.25 | bkw_ | its crap providers |
| 15:43.27 | liversmudge | bobby are your phones new? |
| 15:43.27 | zoa | which means |
| 15:43.36 | zoa | i sometimes only get 40kbit |
| 15:43.43 | Bobby_e | they are about 4/5 months old now |
| 15:43.47 | zoa | but i have 3,3mbit down |
| 15:43.54 | bkw_ | then you need to hang your provier by their fingernails till its fixed |
| 15:43.54 | puzzled | bkw_: unless either up or down is maxxed out. then it will take a toll on the other direction |
| 15:43.58 | tzanger | zoa I still don't follow |
| 15:43.58 | zoa | so even it that is only 1mbit true traffic |
| 15:44.05 | zoa | i still have enough downstream |
| 15:44.12 | tzanger | if it takes 40kbps upstream and 40kbps downstream, it's the same |
| 15:44.15 | bkw_ | puzzled riiight.. I can max my DSL out either way while on the phone and it works fine |
| 15:44.16 | bkw_ | no jitter |
| 15:44.17 | bkw_ | no fuckup |
| 15:44.19 | bkw_ | NEXT!!!! |
| 15:44.31 | zoa | bkw: belgian providers don't give guarantees on the bandwidth |
| 15:44.33 | Bobby_e | well, shall i prove the bandwidth somehow on the line? |
| 15:44.33 | tzanger | why would a 40/40kbps incoming call be different than a 40/40kbps outoging call |
| 15:44.35 | bkw_ | this is exactly why I hate this channel |
| 15:44.36 | maruz | someone knows what's early B3? |
| 15:44.37 | zoa | unless you pay like ten times the call |
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| 15:44.40 | zoa | tzanger: |
| 15:44.40 | zoa | ow |
| 15:44.42 | zoa | incoming call ? |
| 15:44.45 | puzzled | bkw_ and that is without shaping/tos/mpls etc.? |
| 15:44.46 | zoa | not incoming audio ? |
| 15:44.50 | tzanger | incoming *CALL* not audio |
| 15:44.53 | zoa | aaaaaah |
| 15:45.01 | bkw_ | puzzled limited tos now.... but yes some |
| 15:45.06 | zoa | hehe |
| 15:45.07 | zoa | :) |
| 15:45.26 | zoa | i just lost you 10 minutes of your time |
| 15:45.31 | xyxz | yeah... only the hot water faucet |
| 15:45.34 | Bobby_e | well, does anyone have a minute - to connect to my asterisk and experience what i am? |
| 15:45.40 | tzanger | the only thing I can figure is that his connection to switch-1 is buggered |
| 15:45.42 | Bobby_e | calls to my house via sip are perfect |
| 15:45.51 | tzanger | because IIRC nufone's incoming service is NOT through switch-1, but outgoing is |
| 15:45.54 | tzanger | therefore two different machines |
| 15:45.55 | Bobby_e | even when my home connection is maxed out |
| 15:45.58 | tzanger | therefore (possibly) two different routes |
| 15:46.06 | zoa | bobby_e how about we call you from another server ? |
| 15:46.08 | Bobby_e | it's not just nufone's incoming that's fine, voiptalk is too - who we use mainly |
| 15:46.13 | Bobby_e | sure |
| 15:46.20 | zoa | bobby: how is voiptalks outgoing ? |
| 15:46.28 | tzanger | Bobby_e: so that to me says that your connection to switch-1 is shitty for some reason |
| 15:46.32 | zoa | do you only have the problem with nufone outgoing ? |
| 15:46.41 | zoa | yeah it sounds like that |
| 15:46.48 | kiso79 | Anyone here with some STUN experience? |
| 15:46.52 | liversmudge | this is not down to a specific provider |
| 15:46.59 | tzanger | Bobby_e: are your outgoing calls through other providers shitty? |
| 15:47.02 | zoa | kiso: yes, i tried it, i don't like it |
| 15:47.03 | zoa | :) |
| 15:47.22 | Bobby_e | tzangler: yes |
| 15:47.26 | kiso79 | zoa: i will probably have some clients that will connect from behind a NAt |
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| 15:47.42 | liversmudge | its down to gs phones |
| 15:47.45 | kiso79 | zoa: Is there any other "simple" way of solving this? |
| 15:47.58 | afoldo | kiso79, they say stun won't do because it doesn't tunnel UDP. |
| 15:48.23 | Bobby_e | hold on - i've just updated asterisk |
| 15:48.34 | Bobby_e | the jitter has improved |
| 15:48.45 | kiso79 | afoldo: All the people I have asked about the User behing NAT issue pointed to STUN as being the solution |
| 15:49.01 | afoldo | kiso79, CIPE and VTUN are recommended for voip tunneling, aside plain and "old" IPSec. |
| 15:49.04 | kiso79 | afoldo: Any other suggestions? |
| 15:49.08 | zoa | bobby |
| 15:49.28 | DEVILoper | pri_dchannel: PRI got event: 4 on span 2 |
| 15:49.30 | DEVILoper | ? |
| 15:49.36 | kiso79 | afoldo: We are providing GS phones and Xlite for our clients and they have STUN implemented |
| 15:49.54 | cursor | seems not |
| 15:50.08 | Bobby_e | Actually, problem still exists just not as bad: 0163ms 0322ms GSM |
| 15:50.22 | afoldo | kiso79, I haven't actually used any of them, just repeating what I heard. |
| 15:50.25 | tzanger | Bobby_e: outgoing through other providers are crap too... |
| 15:50.30 | cursor | oops - wrong window :-) |
| 15:50.33 | pointer-gaim | is there any way to get comedian to send mode codes (ie #1{ext} to enable MWI or *1{ext} to disable it) over a PRI to a legacy PBX? |
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| 15:51.32 | Jackfiber | is it possible to connect two asterisks, one behind NAT the other on the Internet side using IAX? |
| 15:52.03 | zoa | yes |
| 15:52.08 | Jackfiber | how |
| 15:52.14 | Jackfiber | is it NAT=yes |
| 15:52.16 | zoa | the register statement |
| 15:52.27 | Jackfiber | which should register to other? |
| 15:52.36 | zoa | you don't have a lot of choice :) |
| 15:52.36 | drumkilla | the one behind NAT should register to the other |
| 15:52.36 | Jackfiber | behind Nat should register with outside |
| 15:52.37 | Jackfiber | ? |
| 15:52.41 | drumkilla | yes |
| 15:52.42 | zoa | indeed |
| 15:52.45 | maruz | cursor: have you read teh pastebin? |
| 15:52.52 | cursor | oops |
| 15:52.55 | maruz | :) |
| 15:53.01 | cursor | can you post the URI again for me |
| 15:53.12 | kiso79 | Hmm |
| 15:53.16 | maruz | yes sir :) |
| 15:53.20 | Jackfiber | NAT=yes for IAX is required? |
| 15:53.23 | maruz | http://www.pastebin.com/88695 |
| 15:53.32 | kiso79 | Nobody have given me a straight answer with firsthand experience |
| 15:53.37 | cursor | IAX doesn't have a nat directive |
| 15:53.37 | maruz | it comes from chan_capi.c |
| 15:53.40 | tzanger | in iax.conf the proper command to disallow bridging/transfers is "transfer=no" correct? |
| 15:53.56 | cursor | yes |
| 15:54.07 | Jackfiber | cursor, thank you but how does it detect it's behind NAT |
| 15:54.09 | maruz | else if (!strcasecmp(v->value, "ptm") || !strcasecmp(v->value, "1")) => else if (!strcasecmp(v->value, "ptm") || !strcasecmp(v->value, "0")) |
| 15:54.15 | Jackfiber | port forwarding is necessary? |
| 15:54.26 | tzanger | cursor: yes it does |
| 15:54.39 | cursor | Why would it? |
| 15:54.44 | tzanger | it does |
| 15:54.47 | cursor | IAX2 doesn't care about NATs |
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| 15:55.12 | Jackfiber | so is it bossible * (NAT> <--> * (Internet) |
| 15:55.12 | *** part/#asterisk flewid (~none@216.209.84.151) |
| 15:55.25 | drumkilla | Jackfiber: yes |
| 15:55.26 | cursor | Nope - no nat keyword in chan_iax2.c |
| 15:55.40 | Jackfiber | bossible -> possible |
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| 15:55.50 | tzanger | hmm |
| 15:56.12 | cursor | magic |
| 15:56.13 | maruz | :) |
| 15:56.21 | Jackfiber | which ports should be forwarded: 5036/udp and 4569/udp ? or 10000 to 20000 /udp are also required? |
| 15:56.30 | drumkilla | well, none actually |
| 15:56.34 | axium | no ports need to be forwarded |
| 15:56.35 | axium | just register |
| 15:56.37 | zoa | none |
| 15:56.39 | zoa | just register |
| 15:56.42 | tzanger | cursor is there a transfer or notransfer command in iax.conf |
| 15:56.43 | tzanger | ? |
| 15:56.49 | drumkilla | the NATd server registers with the one on the outside |
| 15:56.58 | axium | notransfer=yes stops iax native briging |
| 15:57.01 | drumkilla | then, when the one on the outside has a call for the NATd server ... |
| 15:57.04 | Jackfiber | thanks all you are all great |
| 15:57.05 | cursor | notransfer=yes |
| 15:57.08 | drumkilla | it already has an established connection with it |
| 15:57.25 | cursor | much like SIP's canreinvite=no |
| 15:57.34 | Jackfiber | special thanks to: drumkilla, zoa, curso |
| 15:57.36 | Jackfiber | cursor |
| 15:57.40 | drumkilla | :) |
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| 15:58.24 | cursor | :-) |
| 15:59.00 | cursor | (drumkilla) what am I looking at here? |
| 15:59.17 | drumkilla | ? |
| 15:59.22 | drumkilla | i was talking to Jackfiber |
| 15:59.46 | drumkilla | about how registration makes his situation work |
| 15:59.49 | cursor | oops |
| 15:59.52 | cursor | I meant maruz |
| 15:59.56 | drumkilla | hehe |
| 16:00.00 | cursor | with the pastebin |
| 16:00.06 | drumkilla | it's all good |
| 16:00.54 | cursor | It's all average |
| 16:01.09 | cursor | There is no good and no bad |
| 16:01.13 | cursor | it's all average |
| 16:01.14 | cursor | :-) |
| 16:02.48 | tzanger | wtf |
| 16:02.55 | tzanger | "reload when convenient" just pops up the help for the reload command now |
| 16:03.01 | tzanger | oh |
| 16:03.02 | tzanger | duh |
| 16:03.06 | tzanger | reSTART when convenient |
| 16:03.09 | tzanger | jesus I'm stupid :-) |
| 16:03.20 | drumkilla | heh |
| 16:03.58 | zoa | tzanger: guess it was your turn now |
| 16:04.03 | zoa | i'm next in line to be stupid again |
| 16:04.04 | zoa | :) |
| 16:04.07 | zoa | maybe i should go home |
| 16:04.14 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 16:04.58 | denon | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5580825/?GT1=4578 |
| 16:06.32 | drumkilla | i saw that on the National Geographic channel recently |
| 16:06.49 | drumkilla | sounds gross, but the idea behind it makes good sense |
| 16:08.15 | maruz | cursor: what average? |
| 16:08.31 | cursor | What am I looking at on that pastebin? |
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| 16:09.11 | maruz | cursor: according to me, the check against 1 in the 4th line shoul de fixed to "0" |
| 16:09.18 | maruz | should be |
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| 16:09.24 | cursor | the second if can be removed |
| 16:09.32 | decode | shit |
| 16:09.32 | cursor | just do if (...) and then else |
| 16:09.40 | cursor | set 0 in the else |
| 16:10.00 | cursor | oh |
| 16:10.11 | cursor | unless there are other values |
| 16:10.14 | maruz | yes :) |
| 16:10.16 | cursor | other than 1 or 0 |
| 16:10.31 | maruz | no, isdn con be ptp or ptmp |
| 16:10.35 | maruz | and nothing else |
| 16:10.50 | cursor | ok |
| 16:10.51 | maruz | anyway, that line is broken |
| 16:10.54 | cursor | then just check for one of them |
| 16:10.57 | cursor | and then do an else |
| 16:10.57 | maruz | i post it on dev... |
| 16:11.03 | cursor | or set to zero |
| 16:11.06 | cursor | and check/set for 1 |
| 16:11.13 | cursor | and have no else at all |
| 16:11.20 | maruz | yeppp! |
| 16:12.13 | cursor | isdnmode = (!strcasecmp(v->value,"ptp") || !strcasecmp(v->value,"1")) ? 1 : 0; |
| 16:12.16 | cursor | :-) |
| 16:12.19 | maruz | cursor: should i post in dev-ml or is there a bugzilla? |
| 16:12.41 | denon | bugs.digium.com |
| 16:12.45 | maruz | 10x |
| 16:12.51 | cursor | test first and raise a bug if you're happy |
| 16:14.10 | maruz | cursor: are u not part of Bug Marshal?!?! |
| 16:14.18 | maruz | incredible but true :) |
| 16:14.19 | cursor | No |
| 16:14.31 | cursor | In fact, I'm not allowed to post patches any more :-) |
| 16:14.44 | maruz | ^_^ |
| 16:14.52 | cursor | So there's not a lot of chance of me becomming a bug marshal |
| 16:15.00 | cursor | Not that that was a dream of mine anyway |
| 16:15.18 | dedd | cursor: banned from posting patches? |
| 16:15.26 | cursor | Politely asked |
| 16:15.49 | dedd | \patches were that bad or employer requirements |
| 16:15.56 | cursor | haha |
| 16:16.12 | cursor | I'm not going to go over it again :-) |
| 16:16.21 | cursor | Otherwise I'll just get the same questions as before |
| 16:16.29 | denon | he was building trojans into his patches. <G> |
| 16:16.38 | cursor | damn! |
| 16:16.39 | maruz | ;) |
| 16:16.40 | cursor | you noticed |
| 16:16.42 | cursor | bah! |
| 16:17.23 | cursor | they bounced |
| 16:17.28 | Damin | Anyone using the astapi driver? |
| 16:17.33 | cursor | Never write your cheques on a condom |
| 16:17.43 | cursor | yes - the author is |
| 16:17.52 | cursor | :-) |
| 16:18.00 | cursor | You did say 'anyone' :-) |
| 16:18.02 | pfn | Thanks, |
| 16:18.02 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.02 | pfn | Please let me know when you are ready to sell it as part of a solution. We are looking to sell the Asterisk PBX to small customers with more or less of a static configuration. 4 lines and 8 extensions. |
| 16:18.02 | Damin | cursor: Thanks. That was really helpful. :) |
| 16:18.03 | pfn | hah |
| 16:18.04 | dedd | cursor: nice 1 |
| 16:18.08 | pfn | a potential customer for my web config |
| 16:18.11 | pfn | yay |
| 16:18.36 | dedd | pfn: u want too much or i'd buy it too instead i'm coding 1 myself |
| 16:18.51 | pfn | heh, you never asked me how much I wanted :p |
| 16:19.02 | pfn | I actually haven't determined pricing yet |
| 16:19.04 | dedd | regardless any price is more than i can afford |
| 16:19.07 | cursor | If you have to ask, you can't afford it |
| 16:19.10 | pfn | heh |
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| 16:20.03 | denon | pfn's gonna open source it, then we can all make it 10x better, and he can sell his solution for 10x more |
| 16:20.12 | pfn | there's that |
| 16:20.12 | cursor | I've been here for 16 hours so far |
| 16:20.13 | pfn | heh |
| 16:20.19 | cursor | 15 |
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| 16:20.35 | mrgoby | is there a way to set the number of rings an x100p waits before it picks up the line on an incoming call ? |
| 16:20.42 | cursor | yes |
| 16:20.49 | pfn | mrgoby it doesn't pick up until you Answer |
| 16:20.51 | denon | just wait() longer before you answer() |
| 16:20.52 | pfn | unless you do immediate=yes |
| 16:21.01 | mrgoby | ok |
| 16:21.06 | mrgoby | i C |
| 16:21.07 | mrgoby | duh |
| 16:21.10 | pfn | then it'll pick up as soon as it gets callerid if you have that turned on |
| 16:21.17 | mrgoby | so, it must be done in extensions.conf and not zapata.conf |
| 16:21.27 | denon | pfn: does immediate=yes pick up any faster than just answering on 1? |
| 16:21.38 | pfn | denon I don't think so |
| 16:21.40 | cursor | My answer was more concise and addressed the specific question |
| 16:21.41 | cursor | :-) |
| 16:21.53 | denon | either way, I guess the callerid spill is the bottleneck |
| 16:22.13 | denon | mrgoby: right |
| 16:22.19 | mrgoby | ok |
| 16:22.28 | denon | unless you have immediate=yes, which you'd want to remove |
| 16:22.50 | mrgoby | i thought that only applied to fxs devices ? |
| 16:23.00 | denon | dunno, I never use it |
| 16:23.10 | denon | would make sense that it'd work on fxo as well though |
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| 16:23.26 | FuzzyCat | Get ready...... |
| 16:23.31 | denon | mornin james |
| 16:23.32 | mrgoby | ok, thanks for the info |
| 16:23.35 | denon | mrgoby: np |
| 16:23.59 | cursor | Shhh - stop talking about citats - he's here |
| 16:24.16 | cursor | :-) |
| 16:26.05 | neoneurone | help, why does Asterisk use the default context when I pick up the phone connected to the FXS port ? |
| 16:26.15 | Blackthorn | I was talking to some people in here ealier, but I have put my older managed switch back online (just finshed updating it's software as well) reason for doing this is that was getting collisions on the network, which i'm still getting. |
| 16:26.25 | Blackthorn | any suggestions what to check as to why i'm getting the colliions? |
| 16:26.57 | cursor | Which context did you specify? |
| 16:27.06 | vaewyn | a switch should NEVER have collisions unless you have a SERIOUS wiring fault or are trying to talk HD/FD cross |
| 16:27.37 | Blackthorn | there is no hd/fd cross |
| 16:27.44 | cursor | Do you have hubs connected to the net too? |
| 16:27.51 | cursor | like hanging off the switch? |
| 16:28.04 | Blackthorn | actually yes. i do, and it's a cheap one too. let me go pull that sucker |
| 16:28.11 | cursor | That'll be it |
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| 16:29.55 | cursor | brbwt |
| 16:30.24 | kivi | Anyone else having trouble compiling chan_capi with latest stable? |
| 16:30.35 | Himeko | that shoudl cause the switch to have collisions though |
| 16:30.42 | Himeko | shouldn't |
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| 16:32.39 | Blackthorn | seems a little slower at 401 collisions in 3 minutes now, but still seems to be a prolbem i guess |
| 16:34.52 | Blackthorn | when i do a graph on the individual collisions it only shows collisiosn on the port that the router is connected to. |
| 16:35.47 | *** join/#asterisk brc_ (~root@ip24-251-182-226.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 16:35.49 | Blackthorn | router is also sending a lot of multicasts |
| 16:36.04 | Blackthorn | ok well looks like i better go check in the cisco channel thanks |
| 16:36.50 | bkw_ | ok guys I have a TDM board I need to sell.... |
| 16:38.08 | bkw_ | I have a 1FXO and 3FXS TDM board.. msg me if you wanna buy it.. good price... me fix jew up good. :P |
| 16:38.56 | denon | bkw_: 5 dolla |
| 16:39.01 | denon | uship |
| 16:39.02 | denon | :) |
| 16:39.04 | bkw_ | haha |
| 16:39.14 | bkw_ | you are crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrazy |
| 16:40.04 | brc_ | 25dolla! |
| 16:40.13 | brc_ | nono put some more |
| 16:40.22 | JunK-Y | when i do a show translation, is it relative to that machine? |
| 16:40.31 | bkw_ | yes |
| 16:40.36 | bkw_ | and you can recalc them |
| 16:40.42 | bkw_ | show translation recalc 10 |
| 16:40.49 | brc_ | chinese salesman in shenzen 'no no more u put some more in!' *shoves oversized calculator in my face* |
| 16:41.02 | JunK-Y | what means 10 ? |
| 16:41.03 | jr99 | ok.. so check this. just called digit networks. card which was "in stock" wasn't really in stock. just shipped yesterday. so, now they said they will credit me for the card and I can just keep it.. so, maybe they aren't such a bad company after all? |
| 16:41.16 | brc_ | what kind of card? |
| 16:41.25 | brc_ | that sounds like a good racket |
| 16:41.29 | bkw_ | JunK-Y just do it.. :) |
| 16:41.34 | jr99 | TDM400P w/ 1 FXO and 1FXS module. |
| 16:41.42 | JunK-Y | i did. |
| 16:41.51 | bkw_ | what I have is 1FXO and 3FXS for 225.00 plus shipping |
| 16:42.02 | bkw_ | jr99 you buy it from me :) |
| 16:42.06 | jr99 | I should. |
| 16:42.11 | bkw_ | you in the US? |
| 16:42.13 | brc_ | yes you should |
| 16:42.13 | jr99 | that is a good deal. |
| 16:42.15 | xyxz | jr99: not surprising... they have pretty good customer service |
| 16:42.17 | jr99 | yea, in the US. |
| 16:42.24 | bkw_ | jr99 225 and i'll pay shipping |
| 16:42.34 | jr99 | xyxz: I was suprised when they said this. |
| 16:42.46 | cursor | $1.04 |
| 16:42.46 | JunK-Y | shit. |
| 16:42.48 | brc_ | he'll do it for 224 |
| 16:43.01 | JunK-Y | i've order one more card, a digit networks to test this time. |
| 16:43.03 | jr99 | bkw_: ok, but I want it tomorrow. |
| 16:43.06 | brc_ | I'll give ya $49.9999492871 and that's my FINAL offer |
| 16:43.06 | xyxz | jr99: they have gone way beyond what they need to for me too |
| 16:43.26 | cursor | And you want it delivered in person too :-) |
| 16:43.33 | dedd | haha |
| 16:43.45 | cursor | Via horse-drawn carriage |
| 16:43.46 | jr99 | xyxz: well that is good. |
| 16:43.47 | JunK-Y | and he needs ur gf for a night too :P |
| 16:44.31 | cursor | People are so quick to change their opinion |
| 16:44.35 | dedd | jr99: well gotta keep in mind all the clients they have to screw to have the money to be nice to u =-) |
| 16:44.36 | jr99 | hehehe |
| 16:44.40 | Alric | Palm trees in the wind... |
| 16:44.42 | skrusty | can anyone speculate as to why i might get a scartchy sound on outgoing zaptel (e1) calls? |
| 16:44.49 | jr99 | dedd: yep. maybe so.. |
| 16:44.53 | cursor | You could work for the US foreign office |
| 16:44.55 | brc_ | I'd say rather that people are quick to dis a company |
| 16:44.58 | cursor | They're bad guys |
| 16:45.02 | brc_ | why? |
| 16:45.06 | cursor | no, now they're good again |
| 16:45.08 | cursor | no |
| 16:45.09 | cursor | wait |
| 16:45.15 | brc_ | because they sell so called 'clone' ia-92 modems? |
| 16:45.15 | cursor | they did something bad |
| 16:45.16 | cursor | :-) |
| 16:45.24 | brc_ | *roll eyes* |
| 16:45.27 | skrusty | it's only scratchy for the destination phone (mobile pstn etc) |
| 16:45.34 | cursor | What's an IA-92? |
| 16:45.43 | dedd | 10 dollar modem |
| 16:45.44 | dedd | haha |
| 16:45.52 | cursor | ah |
| 16:46.11 | cursor | I'll take one and struggle for a year trying to use it as an FXO :-) |
| 16:46.29 | xyxz | hehe |
| 16:46.30 | brc_ | cursor, HAHAHAHAH |
| 16:46.35 | cursor | I'll make it do voice - dammit |
| 16:46.36 | brc_ | it's the SAME DAMN THING |
| 16:46.46 | xyxz | i don't struggle with them much |
| 16:47.34 | brc_ | what on earth would you need to struggle with? |
| 16:48.08 | xyxz | echo maybe? |
| 16:48.26 | brc_ | HAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHHAHHAH hHAH |
| 16:49.02 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o denon] by bkw_ |
| 16:49.09 | bkw_ | thanks for nothing denon :P |
| 16:50.34 | denon | bkw_: I got the bidding started! |
| 16:50.38 | *** join/#asterisk ^ClaSsY (~^ClAsSy@203.175.66.144) |
| 16:50.39 | denon | thats gotta be worth somethin |
| 16:50.43 | ^ClaSsY | hello everyone |
| 16:51.09 | *** join/#asterisk sipper (~andy@4.43.0.10) |
| 16:51.37 | ^ClaSsY | i bought an asterisk lisc. The readme says i can only register it 2 times ( with machines with diff macs i.e if i change ethernet card ) what about after that , am i stuck with that card for life ? or can i change it? |
| 16:52.00 | dedd | ^ClaSsY: digium can fix it after that point |
| 16:52.13 | dedd | but u would have to contact them after registering it twice |
| 16:52.14 | ^ClaSsY | dedd: they will ? for free? |
| 16:52.16 | ^ClaSsY | okay |
| 16:52.39 | dedd | I been told you just have to contact them and have them verify you are the legit owner and they will sort it |
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| 16:52.49 | Jesse- | anyone here in canada? |
| 16:53.01 | dedd | of course not me though |
| 16:53.01 | jr99 | eh? |
| 16:53.20 | Jesse- | can yo ucall 866-700-3245 and tell me if it works |
| 16:53.25 | Jesse- | anyone in canada |
| 16:54.21 | JunK-Y | Jesse-: nope |
| 16:54.33 | JunK-Y | connection couldnt be etablished |
| 16:54.44 | Jesse- | is there an operator recording |
| 16:55.31 | JunK-Y | it doesnt work. |
| 16:56.43 | cursor | Who's your provider? |
| 16:56.53 | JunK-Y | BELL |
| 16:56.57 | JunK-Y | what about ya ? |
| 16:57.00 | cursor | NuFone |
| 16:57.05 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~joe@4.67.252.216.dsl1.colba.net) |
| 16:57.10 | cursor | I have a 1-877 |
| 16:57.28 | cursor | What does Bell do for you? SIP? |
| 16:57.34 | dedd | cursor: i was under the impression nufone toll frees were blocked from being called from canada |
| 16:57.35 | cursor | or forward to another number |
| 16:57.40 | JunK-Y | no, basic phone service. |
| 16:57.45 | *** join/#asterisk wizhippo (~wizhippo@Toronto-HSE-ppp3908061.sympatico.ca) |
| 16:57.58 | cursor | I don't care |
| 16:58.08 | cursor | NuFone will open to Canada |
| 16:58.11 | cursor | with a surcharge |
| 16:58.15 | cursor | apparently |
| 16:58.21 | JunK-Y | really? |
| 16:58.28 | cursor | "French tax" :-) |
| 16:58.34 | file[laptop] | your number goes to like 10 cents a minute in US and Canada |
| 16:58.48 | xyxz | ick |
| 16:58.49 | cursor | It's 2c per min now |
| 16:58.53 | file[laptop] | that's for US only |
| 16:58.54 | cursor | with no monthly charge |
| 16:58.57 | cursor | yes |
| 16:59.00 | cursor | that's all I need |
| 16:59.15 | JunK-Y | cursor: implicit called me 2 weeks ago, it was 2cents/min |
| 16:59.19 | JunK-Y | and im in canada |
| 16:59.26 | cursor | ok |
| 16:59.37 | dedd | JunK-Y: calling out is different than toll free inbound |
| 16:59.38 | cursor | I have a Seattle number and a New York number |
| 16:59.45 | cursor | so the French can call one of those |
| 17:00.07 | cursor | I == Cursor |
| 17:00.10 | file[laptop] | Farscape time! |
| 17:00.36 | cursor | I'm in charge of the phone system :-) |
| 17:00.42 | cursor | What I say goes around here |
| 17:00.47 | cursor | mostly |
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| 17:01.54 | *** join/#asterisk expousr (~expousr@66.101.10.148) |
| 17:02.01 | expousr | Afternoon.. |
| 17:02.14 | expousr | Anyone having trouble with joinempty on queues not working? |
| 17:02.15 | axium | morning |
| 17:02.29 | zainPunk | Asterisk Developer Kit asks for PCI 2.2, How do I know which version of PCI I have? |
| 17:02.41 | zainPunk | good night |
| 17:02.57 | file[laptop] | zainPunk: you look at the manual for your motherboard |
| 17:03.19 | zainPunk | I got no manual! Is there any way I can see using my OS? |
| 17:03.29 | |Blaze| | zainPunk: look it up on the web |
| 17:03.34 | expousr | zainPunk: or sometimes there are bios settings that are useful in determining this. |
| 17:03.41 | file[laptop] | web would be most useful |
| 17:03.44 | file[laptop] | Google is good. |
| 17:03.48 | zainPunk | ok |
| 17:05.29 | JunK-Y | if im making a dial into my 1st channel, the dial will use the 2nd channel, transfer will keep the current channel? |
| 17:06.11 | file[laptop] | JunK-Y: what, if I dare ask, are you trying to do? |