| 00:00.39 | rene- | he mistakingly tought i was a woman (because of my name i suppos) |
| 00:00.41 | rene- | e |
| 00:02.17 | *** part/#asterisk rene- (~rene-@201.129.49.144) |
| 00:04.16 | xyxz | what's the big deal about skype? |
| 00:04.31 | JonR800 | decent quality, low latency, easy to use. |
| 00:04.43 | xyxz | full duplex? |
| 00:04.47 | JonR800 | yep |
| 00:05.03 | JonR800 | though having to sit at my pc kinda wrecks it for me. |
| 00:05.22 | xyxz | no PTT or VOX like TeamSpeak? |
| 00:05.24 | JonR800 | i usually end up working with whoever im talking to if im sitting at my desk.. hah |
| 00:05.41 | JonR800 | no PTT or VOX as far as im aware.. i didn't look all that deep though |
| 00:06.01 | xyxz | hmm |
| 00:06.01 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (~kumbang@167.205.22.54) |
| 00:06.06 | xyxz | I'm guessing you can't use IP phoens with it |
| 00:06.46 | JonR800 | no.. |
| 00:06.54 | JonR800 | they have some usb handsets though |
| 00:07.17 | JonR800 | that you plug into your pc obviously.. heh.. and they're working with siemens for some cordless handsets that work with the service. |
| 00:08.00 | xyxz | hmm |
| 00:08.09 | xyxz | we just need app_skype |
| 00:08.48 | wsuff | pff |
| 00:08.53 | JonR800 | im not sure how you'd dial skype users.. |
| 00:09.06 | JonR800 | not to mention skype won't be opening up their technology any time soon.. haha |
| 00:09.26 | wsuff | reverse engineer |
| 00:09.27 | wsuff | hah |
| 00:09.38 | wsuff | packet sniffer to the rescue |
| 00:09.50 | MustDie | People, stop this discussion about skype. |
| 00:09.54 | xyxz | well... is the linux client a binary? |
| 00:10.06 | wsuff | mustdie: i didn't start it |
| 00:10.07 | wsuff | haha |
| 00:10.10 | MustDie | it's just stupid |
| 00:10.21 | xyxz | MustDie: fuck off |
| 00:10.42 | jrollyson | theres some sort of encryption in SkyPE iirc. SkyPE uses propriatary codecs also. |
| 00:10.54 | pfn | I thought skype uses ilbc |
| 00:11.08 | MustDie | xyxz:very very offensive :P I'm touched |
| 00:11.15 | JonR800 | i liked the quality of it.. though i got a lot of dropped calls with skype. |
| 00:11.36 | JonR800 | so eh |
| 00:11.59 | xyxz | MustDie: gotta spread the love |
| 00:12.20 | MustDie | xyxz: why don't you use MSN or Yahoo messenger ? |
| 00:12.31 | *** join/#asterisk rene- (~rene-@201.129.49.144) |
| 00:12.47 | xyxz | MustDie: uhh... i haven't even used skype... nor those |
| 00:12.57 | xyxz | that's why I was inquiring |
| 00:13.05 | JonR800 | that would be kinda neat.. |
| 00:13.18 | JonR800 | being able to setup extensions to call a yahoo/msn/aim user |
| 00:13.20 | xyxz | JonR800: probably too much work though |
| 00:13.24 | JonR800 | oh yeah |
| 00:13.37 | JonR800 | the thought of it makes me tired. |
| 00:13.59 | jrollyson | Even if it could be reverse engineered, the license would be comtaminated by it. |
| 00:14.19 | JonR800 | it'd have to be a third party package. |
| 00:17.12 | pfn | man asterisk-users sure gets a shitload of traffic |
| 00:17.33 | Damin | pfn: Yes. Shitload. |
| 00:17.55 | JonR800 | hasn't been that bad today |
| 00:18.06 | Damin | pfn: So, before you post something ask yourself.. "Have I done everything that I possibly can to answer the question on my own? Do I really need to send this question out to 7,500 people?" |
| 00:18.06 | JonR800 | i just love it when i come home to find 150 messages |
| 00:18.24 | pfn | damin I never plan on posting to *-users |
| 00:18.31 | pfn | too much traffic |
| 00:18.34 | pfn | too hard to read responses |
| 00:18.46 | pfn | got you assholes in here for that ;- |
| 00:18.47 | pfn | ) |
| 00:18.56 | JonR800 | that's where a liberal delete key comes in |
| 00:21.44 | MustDie | we need nntp interface for *-users |
| 00:22.13 | coax | mustdie: Why? NNTP sucks the llamas ass. email is better. |
| 00:22.25 | pfn | email doesn't get duplicated 7500 times |
| 00:22.26 | pfn | er |
| 00:22.28 | pfn | nntp doesn't |
| 00:22.37 | coax | uh.? |
| 00:22.40 | coax | Oh. well, duh |
| 00:22.52 | MustDie | coax: well, it's easier to read, then you don't have to flood your mail box with all this stuff |
| 00:22.52 | wsuff | MustDie: GMAIL haha |
| 00:23.02 | coax | mustdie: Procmail |
| 00:23.07 | MustDie | i hate web based email |
| 00:23.10 | pfn | and nntp is properly threaded |
| 00:23.19 | jmhunter | pfn:gmail is really good for managing asterisk-users |
| 00:23.23 | Damin | Alright.. |
| 00:23.29 | pfn | is it? maybe I should use it to subscribe |
| 00:23.38 | Damin | So in October, I'm doing a presentaion to Ohio Linuxfest on Asterisk. |
| 00:23.45 | Damin | Should be about 200 or so people in attendance.. |
| 00:23.51 | JonR800 | i just setup a seperate account for mailing lists.. does the job. |
| 00:23.52 | wsuff | nice |
| 00:24.00 | wsuff | JonR800: that too |
| 00:24.09 | MustDie | Jon: everybody does that |
| 00:24.20 | JonR800 | ummm |
| 00:24.21 | MustDie | point is that you can easily come back to old messages with nntp |
| 00:24.31 | MustDie | and refer to something in the past |
| 00:24.33 | JonR800 | <MustDie> coax: well, it's easier to read, then you don't have to flood |
| 00:24.33 | JonR800 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.34 | Damin | Question I have is.. Does anyone want to get together before, during or after the presentation for an Asterisk Developer's meeting? |
| 00:24.42 | jmhunter | if u want a gmail account http://gmailmachine.mmgn.com/ |
| 00:24.44 | MustDie | with emails we are getting same questions over and over and over and over again |
| 00:24.59 | wsuff | jmhunter: 2 bucks on ebay |
| 00:25.09 | JonR800 | MustDie: well in theory they're supposed to search the archives... |
| 00:25.09 | andrewg | in internet its everytime ;) |
| 00:25.24 | jmhunter | ya i bought 3 for 6, and Legend gave me one.. i gave one to twisted for some info |
| 00:25.26 | JonR800 | plus most nntp providers don't cache posts indefinitely.. |
| 00:25.30 | jmhunter | actually he wrote me a script |
| 00:25.59 | *** join/#asterisk ebrady (~ebrady@del224003.columbus.rr.com) |
| 00:26.04 | pfn | an nntp server can be configured to retain the news indefinitely |
| 00:26.58 | JonR800 | true.. |
| 00:27.11 | pfn | we're not talking about posting to usenet at large |
| 00:27.18 | JonR800 | but if users don't search the archives now.. you really think they're going to search nttp? |
| 00:27.22 | pfn | and google has a usenet search, too |
| 00:27.59 | JonR800 | err nntp.. sheesh.. can't think tonight |
| 00:28.07 | MustDie | we need some private nntp, |
| 00:28.13 | jmhunter | google also makes searching email really ease |
| 00:29.02 | JonR800 | i dunno.. why not just open a web forum at that point? |
| 00:29.22 | pfn | nntp is more flexible |
| 00:29.25 | pfn | nntp is the backend |
| 00:29.29 | pfn | webforum would be frontend |
| 00:29.32 | jmhunter | wheres safe_asterisk again? |
| 00:29.35 | JonR800 | ahh |
| 00:29.37 | pfn | jmhunter /usr/sbin |
| 00:29.51 | jmhunter | gracias |
| 00:29.51 | pfn | and at that point, you can use different nntp clients |
| 00:30.06 | pfn | so you have something more along the lines of an MVC model |
| 00:30.06 | MustDie | but we need some front end for that |
| 00:30.26 | pfn | yeah, I don't think anyone's really written a webforum-like frontend for nntp |
| 00:30.36 | MustDie | i have nntp written |
| 00:30.40 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.41 | Damin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.41 | Damin | I'll be sure and send some inappropriate keywords for your Google Profile at a later date. |
| 00:30.41 | Damin | Gay Osama |
| 00:30.43 | MustDie | what i need is to just import message base |
| 00:32.07 | MustDie | so, anybody is up to using read only nntp ? |
| 00:32.19 | Damin | Someone has to have an Email to NNTP injector out there that you can just gateway asterisk-users to alt.pbx.asterisk or some such shit. |
| 00:32.54 | Damin | But if it isn't bidirectional, it's lame. |
| 00:33.15 | jmhunter | i like forums the best... we could get a free forum on dslreports.com im sure |
| 00:33.22 | MustDie | i just hate to read messages with subject like [Asterisk-Users] what's up |
| 00:33.40 | MustDie | then it goes: Re: [Asterisk-Users] what's up |
| 00:34.58 | *** join/#asterisk Ridgeback (kvirc@ppp139-95.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 00:35.10 | JonR800 | why does that bother you? |
| 00:35.15 | Ridgeback | hello! Anyone here use ata-486's? |
| 00:36.16 | *** join/#asterisk gbrowley (~gbrowley@CPE005018009286-CM400047213067.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:36.51 | MustDie | Ridgeback: what's up ? |
| 00:36.52 | Damin | coax: WTF? Why did you send me this link: http://www.bway.net/nambla.org/pederasty.htm |
| 00:38.13 | *** join/#asterisk DoctorCTI (~marc@modemcable246.181-70-69.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:38.15 | MustDie | Ridgeback: i'm using it |
| 00:38.25 | Ridgeback | MustDie: i ordered two of them. and was wondering about the ability for the ATA user to dial into his pstn when the phone is plugged into it. in other words, can the ATa be setup to offer the choice of pstn or sip at dial time? |
| 00:39.49 | MustDie | Ridgeback: no. that PSTN connector, is directly connected with user phone |
| 00:40.07 | MustDie | so if you want to place pstn call, you have to power off your ata-486 |
| 00:40.13 | *** join/#asterisk ariel_ (~Ariel@fl-nked-ubr2-c6a-24.miamfl.adelphia.net) |
| 00:40.13 | Ridgeback | ahhh gotcha |
| 00:40.16 | Ridgeback | ok thanx |
| 00:40.24 | MustDie | it's sounds stupid, but nothing you can do about it |
| 00:40.52 | ariel_ | Hello I am back.. |
| 00:40.55 | Ridgeback | yeah thought it sounded wierd. figured a simple option to dial 9, would switch you to the pstn.. maybe that would be a nice fireware upgrade huh? |
| 00:41.08 | Ridgeback | firmware* |
| 00:41.23 | MustDie | Ridge: it's impossible due to hardware design. it's just connected directly :P |
| 00:41.41 | pfn | calling it fxo is so misleading |
| 00:41.50 | *** join/#asterisk DoctorCTI (~marc@modemcable246.181-70-69.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:42.05 | Ridgeback | MustDie: just curious, do you like the ATA, i.e. simplicity, quality etc... any complaints? I'll be using it with my asterisk switch |
| 00:42.11 | Ridgeback | pfn: true true! |
| 00:42.23 | pfn | because all it really is is an extension cord to your phone |
| 00:42.33 | pfn | who was I arguing that with this morning |
| 00:42.35 | Ridgeback | pfn: no kidding |
| 00:42.38 | pfn | coax |
| 00:43.18 | Ridgeback | i have on order two budgettone/grandstream 102's .. got them fairly cheap. you guys ever use them? |
| 00:43.32 | pfn | I haven't used any IP phones yet |
| 00:43.47 | Ridgeback | ok |
| 00:44.06 | pfn | I want to get an IP phone to try, though |
| 00:44.08 | Ridgeback | im just a noob with SIP anyways. hopefully my stuff gets here soon and i can play |
| 00:44.15 | Damin | Ridgeback: Yes. I use them all the time to take out my frustrations on. They work best if heated in a 450 degree oven for a couple of hours before you plug them in. |
| 00:44.22 | pfn | $65 for budgetone 101 is cheap |
| 00:44.45 | Ridgeback | Damin: lol the ATA-486's or the 102's :) |
| 00:44.59 | Ridgeback | pfn: i got my 102d's for 85 :) |
| 00:45.08 | Damin | Ridgeback: The Grandstream "works" if you want the equivalent service of a $5 phone from the drug store, but they are complete shit. |
| 00:45.16 | pfn | I'm cheap, only need 1 port |
| 00:45.23 | pfn | are they *that* bad? |
| 00:45.37 | Damin | Yep. They are THAT BAD! |
| 00:45.38 | Ridgeback | Damin: doh! ok... they suck... so what is your biggest complaint about them? |
| 00:45.40 | Damin | No excuse for them. |
| 00:45.44 | pfn | I hate links that say "click to enlarge" and it pulls up a same-size image |
| 00:46.01 | pfn | why, is the feel utterly shitty, or? |
| 00:46.06 | Ridgeback | pfn: lol! u must be on grandstreams site! |
| 00:46.09 | pfn | pictures don't look bad |
| 00:46.22 | Damin | Ridgeback: They aren't heavy enough. If you lean over and pick up the handset, the phone comes flying accross the desk at you and breaks your nose. |
| 00:46.31 | pfn | how lame |
| 00:46.35 | Ridgeback | Damin: damn! and i like my nose! |
| 00:46.50 | pfn | it should be relatively easy to open them up and add some ballast, though |
| 00:46.53 | Damin | Ridgeback: Early Dial is still fucking broken after like 90 firmware releases.. |
| 00:47.00 | coax | pfn: You were arguing wtih me about ATAs? |
| 00:47.01 | ariel_ | I found it better to buy Sipura-2000 unit and put a normal analog phone to it. You can get some nice 2 line GE for under $ 40.00 |
| 00:47.05 | Ridgeback | Damin: ok, other than weight. I got hammers and nails. what else? |
| 00:47.06 | pfn | coax about fxo ports |
| 00:47.11 | coax | pfn: oh yeah. hehe |
| 00:47.13 | pfn | and sipura calling the lifeline port fxo |
| 00:47.17 | pfn | cuz it isn't, damnit :p |
| 00:47.28 | Ridgeback | ariel_: sipura huh? |
| 00:47.30 | Damin | Ridgeback: I've had to send 3 of them back because the Ethernet stopped working. |
| 00:47.38 | pfn | damni, ok, so that's shit |
| 00:47.43 | Ridgeback | Damin: what! |
| 00:47.45 | coax | pfn: It isn't functional. but the hardware itself talks to FXS devices. |
| 00:47.46 | pfn | ceasing to function is ass |
| 00:47.48 | Ridgeback | Damin: shit |
| 00:47.49 | ariel_ | The fxo port is just a way to plug in a 911 dial item.. |
| 00:47.58 | Damin | Ridgeback: They are 10 Meg only. |
| 00:48.05 | pfn | coax does it really... |
| 00:48.10 | pfn | or is it just a dumb straight wire |
| 00:48.15 | Damin | Ridgeback: They don't support G729. |
| 00:48.23 | Ridgeback | Damin: 10meg is ok.. but damn. i hope mine dont break...... |
| 00:48.24 | pfn | I thought they did |
| 00:48.28 | coax | pfn: Most likely that. |
| 00:48.36 | ariel_ | I keep my FXO to the ASterisk server like TDMO4 card. |
| 00:48.39 | Ridgeback | is G729 the way to go for Voip? |
| 00:48.41 | coax | pfn: connects line to phone |
| 00:48.42 | pfn | if it's dumb straight wire, I refuse to call it an fxo port |
| 00:48.46 | Damin | Ridgeback: They support G726 (badly) anbd ILBC (badly) |
| 00:48.47 | pfn | or else I'm gonna get an extension cord |
| 00:48.49 | pfn | plug a jack on the end |
| 00:48.53 | pfn | and call it an fxo port |
| 00:48.53 | pfn | :p |
| 00:48.59 | coax | pfn: Fair 'nuff |
| 00:49.02 | Damin | Ridgeback: Depends on your bandwidth.. |
| 00:49.20 | pfn | damin the spec says it supports g729, though... |
| 00:49.23 | Damin | Ridgeback: I fyou are just getting your feet wet and dipping a toe into the Voip market, then the grandstream is an easy way to get into it. |
| 00:49.35 | Damin | But don't expect much.. |
| 00:49.38 | Ridgeback | Damin: damn.... oh well theyre just for testing anyways.... ok Damin whats the best setup for a good IP phone, noot too expensive though |
| 00:49.46 | JonR800 | one word on the grandstream.... ECHO |
| 00:49.52 | Damin | SNOM 200 and Cisco 7940/60 |
| 00:49.53 | pfn | cheapest looking stuff is like snom 100's or so |
| 00:50.02 | Ridgeback | JonR800: I heard about that |
| 00:50.08 | pfn | most affordable, while still looking professional... |
| 00:50.18 | Ridgeback | snom200 ok... i think thier is dealer here is australia |
| 00:50.24 | Damin | pfn: They also work. ;) |
| 00:50.32 | JonR800 | Ridgeback: i got one not that long ago.. a bt101.. and there's a lot of echo on it that i definitely do not get on my sipura. |
| 00:50.45 | Damin | Ridgeback:" I just picked one up oin Ebay for $120. It was s teal. |
| 00:50.58 | Ridgeback | Damin: damn.... |
| 00:51.03 | pfn | snom200? |
| 00:51.04 | pfn | hmmm |
| 00:51.11 | Damin | Yeah Snom 200.. 120. |
| 00:51.15 | Damin | No one bid on it. |
| 00:51.16 | pfn | I don't have anymore room for phones at home.... |
| 00:51.22 | Damin | I expected to pay at least $200 for it. |
| 00:51.23 | JonR800 | lol.. they're all going for $250 |
| 00:51.28 | pfn | already have like 3 cordless and a corded for 2 rooms |
| 00:51.28 | Ridgeback | ok the phones with the two ethernet ports... is that so the phone can daisy chain the users computer? |
| 00:51.38 | pfn | ridgeback yes |
| 00:51.40 | Damin | Ridgeback: Yes. |
| 00:51.54 | Damin | Ridgeback: Which is why the BT102 is lame. ;) 10 Meg only. |
| 00:51.54 | Ridgeback | ok sorry for the noob questions... never used sip before. |
| 00:52.14 | Ridgeback | is it a transaprent proxy or something odd that i have to configure in the phone? |
| 00:52.28 | coax | Ridgeback: You need to read some documentation. |
| 00:52.29 | Damin | Ridgeback: Oh yeah.. and the Shitstgream doesn't support Power over Etheret. |
| 00:52.33 | coax | Ridgeback: There is plenty available. |
| 00:52.42 | Damin | www.voip-info.org |
| 00:52.46 | coax | Ridgeback: http://www.voip-info.org http://www.asterisk.org |
| 00:52.47 | *** part/#asterisk zaptel (~david@200.91.70.82) |
| 00:52.47 | pfn | PoE is expenvei |
| 00:52.55 | pfn | I'm dyxlesic today |
| 00:52.57 | Damin | pfn: Not really. |
| 00:52.58 | Ridgeback | Damin: do i need a special ethernet switch to support PoE? |
| 00:52.58 | MustDie | People, grandstream is a super duper adapater |
| 00:53.02 | MustDie | Price is right |
| 00:53.15 | JonR800 | Damin: for a home user.. it can be.. |
| 00:53.29 | rene- | uniden 200 |
| 00:53.31 | Damin | Ridgeback: No. Just cut a lamp cord in two and attacj it to an RJ45 connector on pins 4-5 and 7-8. :) |
| 00:53.33 | rene- | best phone ever |
| 00:53.47 | Damin | Ridgeback: Then just plug it in.. |
| 00:53.53 | pfn | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61840&item=5702695974&rd=1 |
| 00:53.58 | pfn | hmm, went for $2400 for a lot of 10 |
| 00:54.01 | rene- | or so im told |
| 00:54.19 | Damin | Ridgeback: You can find instructions for making your own POE switch at: http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ |
| 00:54.33 | coax | i'll take 10 please |
| 00:54.35 | Ridgeback | Damin: ok cool... would like to have the Cisco ones. I use cisco routers all the time |
| 00:54.40 | Ridgeback | Damin: cool thanx! |
| 00:54.54 | pfn | damin evil |
| 00:55.00 | Damin | I know.. |
| 00:55.40 | coax | Hahahaha |
| 00:55.41 | coax | *rotfl* |
| 00:56.09 | coax | *HAHAHAHA* |
| 00:56.12 | coax | Localtalk killer |
| 00:56.27 | Ridgeback | lol |
| 00:56.30 | coax | V.35 killer! *ROTFL*!! |
| 00:56.42 | Damin | Localtalk Killer |
| 00:56.43 | Damin | The RJ-11 killer proved to be adaptable too. Perhaps having proper terminiation doesn't really matter at this point. Now localtalk is really local. |
| 00:56.55 | coax | hahaha the powered hub killer is pretty good |
| 00:57.57 | Ridgeback | lol |
| 00:57.57 | ariel_ | cisco's phones you will have to get the software lisc for them then the smart net for each to be able to use them. |
| 00:58.04 | Damin | RJ-11 Killer |
| 00:58.04 | Damin | Telcos install circuit protection for a reason, right? |
| 00:58.42 | ariel_ | Power over ethernet NetGear makes a managed 24port layer III switch with 2 1000 gig ports for under $ 1200.00. |
| 00:59.29 | pfn | you have to get a license to run cisco phones??? what kinda shit is that |
| 00:59.41 | coax | pfn: Dude. thats cisco man |
| 00:59.59 | pfn | such ass.... |
| 01:00.49 | Ridgeback | ok just fired off an email to the Australian distributor for Snom, requesting prcing info for the 200's |
| 01:01.48 | wsuff | shoring? |
| 01:01.48 | MustDie | err shorting |
| 01:02.08 | MustDie | selling short |
| 01:02.13 | wsuff | ya |
| 01:02.15 | wsuff | i get it now |
| 01:02.24 | MustDie | buying puts |
| 01:02.46 | pfn | http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ibm |
| 01:02.48 | pfn | go up damnit |
| 01:02.49 | pfn | I need to sell |
| 01:03.00 | ariel_ | Snom are around $ 275 here in the states. For the office they are great phones. For home over priced phones. |
| 01:03.16 | Ridgeback | whats good sip phone for home then? |
| 01:03.41 | pfn | no cheap snom's on ebay.... |
| 01:03.46 | MustDie | pfn: i used to work for ibm.....i was thinking they will go out of business 7 years ago |
| 01:03.55 | Ridgeback | pfn: all $250 |
| 01:03.56 | acosgrov | get an ATA and stay analog... why dish out over $100 for a phone |
| 01:03.56 | pfn | 10 years ago |
| 01:03.57 | MustDie | pfn: i haven't changed my mind |
| 01:03.59 | twisted | wheeee |
| 01:04.02 | pfn | by '96 they had completely turned around |
| 01:04.07 | twisted | ~seen bkw_ |
| 01:04.09 | jbot | bkw_ is currently on #asterisk (11h 59m 11s). Has said a total of 90 messages. Is idling for 2h 46m 25s |
| 01:04.15 | Ridgeback | acosgrov: ok cool, bought two ata-486.... |
| 01:04.21 | *** join/#asterisk caio (caio1982@caio1982.cloaked) |
| 01:04.31 | pfn | I actually like the way my analog phones work with * |
| 01:04.39 | acosgrov | Ridgeback: I bought a budgetone 101 - not really impressed |
| 01:04.46 | ariel_ | I found for the home a Sipura-2000 and put 2 analog phone is the best route to go with. |
| 01:04.49 | MustDie | pfn: they are just bunch of idots. Idiots build machines |
| 01:05.01 | pfn | indeed |
| 01:05.02 | twisted | is anyone ever impressed with budgetone's? |
| 01:05.06 | twisted | heh |
| 01:05.08 | Ridgeback | acosgrov: hmmmmm |
| 01:05.08 | pfn | I'm just floating around 'til I let myself get canned |
| 01:05.12 | pfn | I despise this job |
| 01:05.16 | pfn | I feel like I work with idiots every day |
| 01:05.17 | Ridgeback | ariel_: ok sipura-2000 |
| 01:05.22 | twisted | pfn: what do you do? where are you? |
| 01:05.23 | ariel_ | BT big numbers callID that sucks.. No |
| 01:05.29 | pfn | software engineer @ ibm |
| 01:05.41 | twisted | ah |
| 01:05.44 | JonR800 | I love my sipura also.. i have 3 spa-2000's |
| 01:05.45 | Ridgeback | ariel_: i'll check that sipura out |
| 01:05.50 | acosgrov | how much is the iAXy run for? |
| 01:05.52 | MustDie | pfn: ahh you got your 25% discount on stock purchase ;) |
| 01:05.57 | JonR800 | acosgrov: $99 |
| 01:05.58 | pfn | I wish it were 25% |
| 01:05.59 | pfn | only 15% |
| 01:05.59 | twisted | acosgrov, $99 |
| 01:06.07 | MustDie | pfn: sorry i forgot already |
| 01:06.07 | pfn | and looks like it's gonna shrink or go away altogether in 2005 |
| 01:06.15 | ariel_ | So far for our home office we have setup sipura due to you can configure one port with ulaw and use it for sending and getting faxes. |
| 01:06.46 | pfn | ariel hmm, that's interesting--can you do the same with zap ports? |
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| 01:07.16 | ariel_ | I liked the Idea of the Iaxy but it lacks in codec and other thing. But if you need to get something through most firewalls then iaxy is the only way. |
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| 01:07.34 | ariel_ | pfn yes but most homes don't put up an asterisk server. |
| 01:07.44 | twisted | i do at my house :P |
| 01:07.46 | MustDie | pfn: after ibm, just only 1 word makes me dizzy - "Conference Call" |
| 01:07.53 | pfn | heh |
| 01:07.57 | twisted | mustdie: that's 2 words :P |
| 01:08.01 | pfn | my manager has been getting on my case about missing meetings |
| 01:08.08 | ariel_ | Yes I do here at my home too. But for my sisters I got her a Sipura and she uses my system from her home.. |
| 01:08.11 | pfn | I think I've missed like 9 out of 10 meetings these last 6 months... |
| 01:08.19 | MustDie | twisted: mister matimatician |
| 01:08.39 | MustDie | pfn: you are way over the line now |
| 01:08.50 | JonR800 | pfn: meetings are like recess |
| 01:08.54 | twisted | mustdie: mister spellgin |
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| 01:09.02 | pfn | they love to meet on how to make meetings |
| 01:09.03 | twisted | rofl |
| 01:09.04 | MustDie | twisted: :P |
| 01:09.05 | pfn | it's irritating |
| 01:09.17 | twisted | pfn: dell did that too |
| 01:09.33 | pfn | and my team is especially guilty |
| 01:09.34 | twisted | managers LOVE meetings |
| 01:09.39 | wsuff | haha just got 1 of my meetings blow off cause he went gf hunting instead |
| 01:09.39 | ariel_ | we had a customer that would send out an email to have a conference call to see when were available for a conference call. |
| 01:09.41 | pfn | they don't know how to keep meeting topics on-line |
| 01:09.48 | pfn | on-topic |
| 01:09.49 | pfn | whatever |
| 01:09.54 | pfn | every meeting becomes a status meeting |
| 01:09.55 | twisted | ariel_, aren't those the best? |
| 01:09.57 | pfn | freaking irritating |
| 01:10.01 | twisted | ;P |
| 01:10.08 | pfn | despise this crap |
| 01:10.11 | twisted | setting up a confrence call to determine when to have a confrence call |
| 01:10.12 | ariel_ | yes they are ironic.. |
| 01:10.13 | twisted | it's great. |
| 01:11.02 | MustDie | and when 12 or 15 people on conference call, everybody from 1 team reapeat each other over and over and over again |
| 01:11.16 | MustDie | then same thing happend from another party, just changing words around |
| 01:11.24 | ariel_ | Ok I finally got the damm Cisco here working. And I don't like it as much as the Snom for easy of configuration. |
| 01:11.26 | MustDie | so disgusting |
| 01:11.39 | wsuff | reminds me i gotta schedule a conf |
| 01:11.40 | wsuff | haha |
| 01:12.05 | wsuff | kbounce for a bit first though |
| 01:12.06 | pfn | so yeah, I wanna see if I can make money selling * and some solutions shit |
| 01:12.08 | pfn | then quit work |
| 01:12.17 | pfn | oh, and gotta burn off my vacation days first, too |
| 01:12.18 | pfn | heh |
| 01:12.24 | twisted | mmmm |
| 01:12.26 | twisted | beef tacos |
| 01:12.31 | pfn | burn off 4 weeks of vacation in january |
| 01:12.33 | pfn | and quit in february |
| 01:12.44 | twisted | pfn: pull one like i did |
| 01:12.52 | twisted | when you find out they're gonna get rid of you |
| 01:12.57 | twisted | make them pay you for the vacation |
| 01:12.57 | wsuff | pfn: burn vacation develop solution quit sell solution full time |
| 01:12.59 | twisted | and just work it out |
| 01:13.08 | ariel_ | I have to take 18 days off the next 1/2 of the year.. It was a letter in my inbox this moring... |
| 01:13.23 | MustDie | pfn: take vacation, then all of sick days and i totaly agree with twisted |
| 01:13.27 | pfn | twisted nah |
| 01:13.32 | pfn | I don't care to take the lump sum check |
| 01:13.34 | twisted | ariel_, sounds like time to come fly around the US and pick us all up |
| 01:13.37 | pfn | I like going on vacation |
| 01:13.41 | twisted | and then we'll go to tahiti |
| 01:14.00 | ariel_ | Have you seen the price of 100LL gas for the airplane..?? well have you..? |
| 01:14.10 | twisted | no |
| 01:14.13 | pfn | I mean, otherwise I could just wait for january and tell them I quit, and get paid the full 4 weeks of vacation |
| 01:14.14 | twisted | i'm afraid to |
| 01:14.32 | ariel_ | $ 3.89 per gal. I burn 8.5 gal per hour flying.. |
| 01:14.42 | twisted | owieeee |
| 01:14.54 | MustDie | ariel: what kind of plane you've got ? |
| 01:15.29 | ariel_ | It's a Polish built Rallyee Called Koliber 150a.. Only 18 of them in the States. Great fun STOL airplane. |
| 01:15.57 | MustDie | ariel: this is really cool. |
| 01:16.08 | pfn | twisted you don't have to make them pay for your vacation when you're about to get canned |
| 01:16.13 | pfn | you have to be paid for vacation time |
| 01:16.21 | twisted | pfn: no you don't |
| 01:16.25 | pfn | yes, you do |
| 01:16.33 | pfn | it's like in the employment code |
| 01:16.36 | ariel_ | Here is the link to the plane. http://www.pzl-okecie.com.pl/koliber.htm |
| 01:16.38 | twisted | ahh |
| 01:16.39 | twisted | maybe for you |
| 01:16.41 | pfn | when you are separated from your job |
| 01:16.47 | pfn | you must be paid vacation time accumulated |
| 01:17.10 | twisted | dell was different |
| 01:17.13 | pfn | my friend, she keeps telling me this (she works in hr and shit) |
| 01:17.44 | ariel_ | Here are some actual picture of my plane..http://www.airplanecards.com/gallery/abatista |
| 01:17.54 | pfn | if you don't, you can sue to get paid for the vacation time, I'm sure |
| 01:17.55 | Ridgeback | Sipura-2000... can a phone plugged into one line, dial out (like FXO) the other pstn line? I would like to have one ohone on my desk and easily switch from dialling local pstn, and SIP |
| 01:18.12 | pfn | ridgeback no |
| 01:18.28 | Ridgeback | hmm that sux |
| 01:18.33 | DoctorCTI | anyone got the Sipura-3000 yet? |
| 01:18.38 | ariel_ | Ridgeback you put an FXO into the asterisk and via the sipura connect to the asterisk. |
| 01:18.40 | twisted | ariel_, is that a nextel i550 i see on your hip? |
| 01:19.42 | Ridgeback | ariel_: hmm well I was wanting something for mom/pop. Just one phone, one that can do SIP to my server or local pstn |
| 01:19.43 | ariel_ | No I don't have a Nextel i550 |
| 01:20.30 | twisted | ariel_, it sure looks like it in that one w/you on the wing |
| 01:20.34 | ariel_ | Ridgeback yes you can do that with the Sipura 2000, 1000 or 3000 what the 3000 gives you is you can plug there local phone line for 911 use. |
| 01:21.24 | ariel_ | Twisted that is an old Nokia 3285 I used to have.. |
| 01:21.40 | twisted | oh |
| 01:22.10 | Ridgeback | ariel_: ok, just to reiterate.. plug in the telco lin into the sipura. plug in the POTS phone into the other port. if mom needs to call her neighber via pstn she can, or she can dial SIP numbers if she wants. |
| 01:22.48 | pfn | ridgeback no |
| 01:22.55 | pfn | ridgeback you can't dialout over pstn via the sip-3000 |
| 01:23.21 | bkw_ | I'M BACK |
| 01:23.30 | twisted | good |
| 01:23.31 | pfn | :p |
| 01:23.37 | MustDie | bkw: what happend !!!???? |
| 01:23.38 | Ridgeback | hmmm ariel_ just mentioned you can... ok... |
| 01:23.40 | ariel_ | Ridgeback It's a backup like for special use like 911. They can still get there calls via that line to your other phone but mainly for inbound and 911. |
| 01:23.45 | MustDie | bkw: we've got all nervous and stuff |
| 01:24.07 | pfn | ridgeback are you reading? he didn't say you can |
| 01:24.09 | Ridgeback | ariel_: ahh ok got it |
| 01:24.19 | Ridgeback | Ridgeback yes you can do that with the Sipura 2000, 1000 or 3000 what the 3000 gives you is you can plug there local phone line for 911 use. |
| 01:24.27 | Ridgeback | that what was said earlier |
| 01:24.33 | ariel_ | The sipura-3000 has it's own dialing plan and in some ways yes you can make some local calls. But it's hard to configure. |
| 01:24.47 | Ridgeback | ariel_: ok, so its a pain in the ass |
| 01:24.52 | twisted | btw ppl |
| 01:24.59 | twisted | the hot pockets beef taco flavor really sucks |
| 01:25.05 | pfn | ariel you can? |
| 01:25.09 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:25.11 | Ridgeback | any SIP sphones allow pstn/sip selectable at dial time? |
| 01:25.14 | bkw_ | I went to install DSL for my ex-aunt |
| 01:25.16 | pfn | you can make it dial out over pstn? |
| 01:25.16 | MustDie | twisted: taco hell you say ? |
| 01:25.19 | bkw_ | and she paid me 170 bucks |
| 01:25.20 | ariel_ | Ridgeback it is for 911 use maily. Not full access. |
| 01:25.22 | pfn | ex-aunt? |
| 01:25.27 | pfn | bkw you slut you :p |
| 01:25.35 | twisted | MustDie, no |
| 01:25.41 | twisted | hot pockets |
| 01:25.44 | DoctorCTI | can the sipura-3000 be used as a asterisk SIP trunk to access the PSTN? |
| 01:25.47 | bkw_ | she was married to my uncle at one point for YEARS |
| 01:25.47 | wsuff | ex aunt |
| 01:25.52 | wsuff | oh |
| 01:25.57 | Ridgeback | ariel_: ok thanks |
| 01:26.03 | ariel_ | I have a beta of it. And actually yes you can. But it's limited to only the other line plugged into the sipura fxs port. |
| 01:26.06 | twisted | i'm trying to eat solid foods again |
| 01:26.06 | bkw_ | from way before I was born till the time I was like 17 |
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| 01:26.16 | twisted | and i picked the absolute WRONG thing to ead |
| 01:26.18 | twisted | s/ead/eat |
| 01:26.25 | bkw_ | twisted I got something solid for you to slurp on |
| 01:26.31 | twisted | bkw_, harhar |
| 01:26.40 | MustDie | twisted: stop killing yourself with all that, try something real |
| 01:26.48 | wsuff | moose penis |
| 01:26.58 | ariel_ | Ridgeback do you under stand the 3000 limited ues of it's fxo port? |
| 01:27.01 | Ridgeback | twisted: whats wrong? |
| 01:27.15 | bkw_ | twisted well this meat has been beat too much so it can't be veal |
| 01:27.16 | Ridgeback | ariel_: nope never readu p on the sipura3000 |
| 01:27.22 | twisted | hahahahaha |
| 01:27.26 | ariel_ | twisted hot pockets are well hart problems in a small pack. |
| 01:27.36 | wsuff | heart |
| 01:27.38 | wsuff | hhaha |
| 01:27.49 | DoctorCTI | can the sipura-3000 be restricted on the PSTN dialing access rights? IE no 1900 dialing... |
| 01:27.51 | ariel_ | here we got with the spelling you knew what I was talking about.. |
| 01:27.59 | twisted | these are gonna turn into indigestion |
| 01:28.01 | twisted | i can tell already |
| 01:28.20 | MustDie | everybody is switching twisted to organic food :P |
| 01:28.27 | twisted | lol |
| 01:28.35 | twisted | MustDie, pass me your liver |
| 01:28.39 | ariel_ | DoctorCTI I don't know the doc's I got is not complete but there is allot you can do with there dialling plan. |
| 01:28.56 | MustDie | twisted: it's all poisoned already ......too late |
| 01:28.59 | twisted | bah |
| 01:29.11 | DoctorCTI | is the doc you have in soft copy? |
| 01:29.42 | ariel_ | it was a 2 pay sheet not worth the reading just your basic login and plugging it in. |
| 01:29.48 | twisted | bwahahahah |
| 01:29.49 | twisted | Subject: Oh no... no... dady (story by Nikki) |
| 01:30.07 | cybyc | pfn: look there ftp://ftp.prserv.net/pub/client/ (or other directories in pub) |
| 01:30.14 | Ridgeback | hmm just read the sipura-3000 should beable to route calls via the pstn, based on a local dial plan. cool! |
| 01:31.10 | bkw_ | bahahhaha |
| 01:31.13 | bkw_ | skype on /. |
| 01:31.21 | bkw_ | and NO TALK OF ASTERISK |
| 01:31.23 | twisted | bkw_, and in here |
| 01:31.24 | twisted | all day |
| 01:31.24 | bkw_ | get with it people |
| 01:31.34 | ariel_ | Ridgeback yes like I said it has basic local access but only from it's other port. |
| 01:32.10 | Ridgeback | thats fine, thats all i need. just need SIP + pstn from one phone :) |
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| 01:32.55 | ariel_ | Remember the one I have is still beta they are not release yet. They told me that there firmware will change allot in the next few weeks. |
| 01:34.26 | Ridgeback | ariel_: cool. cant wait to see what price it will retail |
| 01:35.34 | bkw_ | ok i'm happy i'm 170 bucks richer |
| 01:35.35 | twisted | file: you here? |
| 01:35.39 | twisted | bkw_, werd |
| 01:35.39 | bkw_ | CHOP CHOP make bkw richer |
| 01:35.43 | Jestre | Ridgeback: Looks like about 160, 125 on most sites now |
| 01:36.43 | pfn | damnit, I just locked myself out of my mts account |
| 01:36.44 | pfn | grrr |
| 01:39.31 | ariel_ | Ridgeback pre orders are available from Voxilla for around $ 124 to 125. Something like that. |
| 01:39.47 | BoRiS | ridgeback? |
| 01:40.01 | Ridgeback | cool |
| 01:40.11 | Ridgeback | BoRiS: yep |
| 01:40.28 | bkw_ | I have burned stinger and Ad-aware to disk 100 times today for people |
| 01:40.43 | bkw_ | if I get my hands on the fucker that wrote this zafi virus i'm gonna kill that little motherfucker |
| 01:40.48 | ariel_ | I have a new SipExpress which is something like it. I am working on it in the morning. It has 2 ethernet ports one fxo backup /911 port and 2 FXS ports. SIP device. |
| 01:41.39 | ariel_ | what a virus again no quick hide.... |
| 01:42.11 | Ridgeback | bkw_: are you a sysadmin? |
| 01:44.17 | bkw_ | you could say that |
| 01:44.18 | JerJer | aren't we all sysadmins? |
| 01:44.21 | bkw_ | i'm head bitch in charge |
| 01:44.27 | Ridgeback | bkw_: lol |
| 01:44.28 | bkw_ | H B I C |
| 01:44.54 | Ridgeback | bkw_: nick changed to -> HBIC |
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| 01:45.00 | Ridgeback | bkw_: lol |
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| 01:46.37 | *** part/#asterisk Ridgeback (kvirc@ppp139-95.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net) |
| 01:47.07 | ariel_ | Damm Cable modem network route sucks.. |
| 01:47.27 | JerJer | t-1 |
| 01:47.40 | ariel_ | Can someone do me a favor and tracert to Ip address 199.254.222.1 and tell you the last stop before that one please.. |
| 01:47.57 | coax | <-- isn't a sysadmin. |
| 01:48.11 | JerJer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:48.15 | coax | <-- just runs the systems all day, every day, day in, day out, rain or shine, with never a momentary breath of fresh air |
| 01:48.45 | ariel_ | Damm that is the wrong address. Wonder what has happened to them.. |
| 01:49.23 | ariel_ | JerJer thanks I need to see what wrong with them.. |
| 01:50.19 | bkw_ | ariel_ traceroute.org |
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| 01:52.50 | twisted | bahahaha |
| 01:52.51 | twisted | LIARS |
| 01:52.55 | twisted | On-line registration will open june 20th 2004 |
| 01:52.55 | twisted | Please stay tuned. |
| 01:53.02 | twisted | from astricon.net |
| 01:53.03 | pfn | for ? |
| 01:53.17 | wsuff | twisted: haha |
| 01:53.24 | wsuff | pfn: astricon |
| 01:53.35 | pfn | indeed |
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| 01:54.09 | twisted | oooh |
| 01:54.10 | twisted | badass |
| 01:54.11 | twisted | SpaceShipOne became the first *privately funded* ship to reach space today! |
| 01:54.11 | twisted | The FAA gave pilot Mike Melvill (62!) the first set of astronaut wings |
| 01:54.11 | twisted | awarded for a private/non-government/non-military spaceflight. |
| 01:54.28 | JerJer | that's a false statement |
| 01:54.52 | JerJer | an amatur rocketry club reached space a month ago, just no human on board |
| 01:55.09 | twisted | heh |
| 01:55.10 | twisted | http://www.guardian.co.uk/space/article/0,14493,1244539,00.html |
| 01:55.27 | JerJer | and they went 72 miles |
| 01:56.16 | twisted | heh |
| 01:56.17 | ariel_ | bkw_ thanks but I dont' have the problem to me. My customers appears that there main IP address has been hijacked.. I am trying to get to there main router to see what happened. |
| 01:57.05 | twisted | JerJer, reagardless, it's still pretty damn cool |
| 01:57.15 | JerJer | yeah |
| 01:57.25 | ariel_ | Yes soon we will all be able to go into space.. Not enough money in my bank for that.. |
| 01:57.45 | twisted | ariel_, i'd hate to see the fuel costs for that :P |
| 01:58.15 | ariel_ | Well there going to start selling rides next year for 30,000 plus for each person.. Argh. |
| 01:58.37 | twisted | Astricon 2006 - Location: Jupiter |
| 01:59.00 | twisted | Hotel: Outer Rings Hilton |
| 01:59.01 | ariel_ | Engine only burns for 1 to 3 minutes... fast shit. |
| 01:59.34 | ariel_ | ROFL got to belive it someday it will happen... |
| 01:59.45 | twisted | yeah |
| 01:59.54 | twisted | "Watch Paris Hilton's dress lift right off her body!" |
| 02:00.09 | ariel_ | too skinny. |
| 02:00.19 | twisted | ariel_, I'd break it like a kit-kat! |
| 02:00.23 | JerJer | yeah i'd break her |
| 02:00.43 | JerJer | but i'd have better video footage :P |
| 02:00.54 | ariel_ | Besides there are pictures already on the internet.. Nothing hiding any more there. |
| 02:00.55 | twisted | "Gimme a break! Gimme a break! Break me off a piece of that thin-ass-bitch!" |
| 02:01.46 | essobi | And? |
| 02:02.14 | essobi | Tell me you wouldn't pick her up and walk around with her ass in each hand. |
| 02:02.30 | twisted | hahaha |
| 02:02.34 | twisted | damn skippy |
| 02:03.31 | ariel_ | Damm shit.. Argh If I get my hands on this stupid person to take my customers address I am going to kill him... |
| 02:04.36 | ariel_ | I know I will back trace them. And let them have bkw_ virus on them... |
| 02:07.28 | essobi | ariel_ what's happening? |
| 02:08.35 | ariel_ | I have seen to have lost the main router to my customers site. |
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| 02:13.04 | Damin | twisted: That is supposed to go; |
| 02:13.26 | pfn | I'd hit paris.... |
| 02:13.29 | Damin | twisted: "Gimme a piece, gimme a piece, break me off a piece of that fine ass ho" |
| 02:13.33 | file | FreeBSD folks, where are you at? |
| 02:13.40 | twisted | no dood |
| 02:13.41 | twisted | gimme a break |
| 02:14.02 | essobi | file What? |
| 02:14.02 | Damin | twisted: No. I don't have to. I have dual opterons! |
| 02:14.07 | twisted | hahaha |
| 02:14.12 | file | essobi: help me get sound working, NOW! |
| 02:14.22 | file | or I'll eat you |
| 02:14.29 | pfn | time to go home |
| 02:14.34 | essobi | :P~ |
| 02:14.42 | ariel_ | now now eating you is over rated.. |
| 02:15.01 | file | okay! :( |
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| 02:16.02 | essobi | file what're you trying to get working? |
| 02:16.05 | essobi | A sound card? |
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| 02:16.11 | ariel_ | Ok does someone have a good dns server I could use for a little while.. Adelphia has too many restrictions on theres. |
| 02:16.18 | essobi | get to cracking on a new kernel |
| 02:17.06 | jtodd | In a MeetMe, what is the definition of a "marked" user? (see the "x" option...) |
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| 02:20.57 | bkw_ | http://www.noao.edu/outreach/press/pr01/images/sat_sky_wide_med.jpg |
| 02:21.05 | ManxPower | Does overlapdial work with analog Zap? |
| 02:21.10 | ManxPower | i.e. X100P? |
