| 00:00.05 | marlowe | Or get a local # from them, and get a toll-free # somewhere else that forwards to that #, although that ends up costing more per minute for incoming calls |
| 00:00.36 | marlowe | Ok, I killed everyone with my talking |
| 00:01.01 | atacomm | lol |
| 00:01.02 | chap- | not.... quite...... dead..... |
| 00:01.10 | Poemius | oh it does not feel too bad to be dead :) |
| 00:01.23 | Poemius | I was thinking it was worse than that :) |
| 00:01.24 | atacomm | i'm feeling better |
| 00:01.33 | atacomm | i want to go for a walk |
| 00:01.39 | Bobby_Ewing | marlowe: cheers, i have emailed nufone |
| 00:01.49 | marlowe | atacomm: Have you recently redesigned your site? |
| 00:01.54 | Pi_ | well |
| 00:01.54 | marlowe | I remember your site being a lot uglier :) |
| 00:01.55 | Pi_ | i'm out |
| 00:01.56 | Pi_ | bbl |
| 00:02.11 | atacomm | marlowe: not in a long time, lol |
| 00:02.16 | marlowe | hmm |
| 00:02.26 | paulc | LOL @ marlowe |
| 00:02.29 | Poemius | maybe a different set of glasses :) |
| 00:02.40 | paulc | yeah.. s'what I'm looking at right now.. get a 800 off the net that terminates on my iconnecthere 206 DID |
| 00:02.41 | marlowe | Yeah, maybe |
| 00:02.46 | paulc | good enough for testing, what I want to do etc.. |
| 00:02.57 | sung | pi |
| 00:02.57 | paulc | but I'd still be interested in direct 8xx termination IAX/SIP |
| 00:03.00 | paulc | if the price is good |
| 00:03.01 | Pi_ | sung shut up |
| 00:03.03 | Pi_ | just shut up sung |
| 00:03.03 | Celtic | paulc: Can get it for $2/month and 6.9c / min |
| 00:03.15 | sung | PI |
| 00:03.17 | sung | I FUCKING HATE YOU |
| 00:03.19 | sung | YOU BASTARD |
| 00:03.21 | marlowe | paulc: email matt@gear3.com and ask about pricing on that |
| 00:03.24 | paulc | Celtic: Sounds like telcan.net ;-) |
| 00:03.48 | sung | heh |
| 00:03.48 | marlowe | paulc: and if it's possible.. |
| 00:03.48 | twisted | *sigh* |
| 00:03.48 | paulc | marlowe: matt=you? |
| 00:03.48 | twisted | don't you kids have school tomorrow? |
| 00:03.48 | marlowe | Damn that was supposed to go in a /msg |
| 00:03.50 | cuban | So voicepulse accepts IAX2 termination? |
| 00:03.51 | marlowe | paulc: matt=me |
| 00:03.53 | Celtic | paulc: No - actually think it is 5.9c US |
| 00:03.55 | twisted | cuban, yes |
| 00:03.55 | marlowe | cuban: uh huh |
| 00:03.55 | Poemius | someone's had a bad day :) |
| 00:04.02 | Celtic | Haven't seen much else yet |
| 00:04.04 | paulc | marlowe: cheers - I'll email now |
| 00:04.18 | cuban | I didn't think IAX would be that popular. |
| 00:04.19 | marlowe | You won't hear back from me until tomorrow :) I'm lazy. |
| 00:04.26 | cuban | Well @#$@ SBC |
| 00:04.26 | Poemius | does voicepulse accept iax for their unlimited plan? |
| 00:04.28 | marlowe | cuban: You think wrong |
| 00:04.32 | marlowe | Poemius: no |
| 00:04.40 | cuban | I'll cancel all our lines but the main one, and forward it to a voicepulse line |
| 00:04.53 | marlowe | cuban: Exactly what I do :) |
| 00:05.00 | marlowe | But not, ugh, voicepulse |
| 00:05.04 | mitchel | yea but cuban now you'll be paying for incoming...? |
| 00:05.09 | Poemius | yuck, I have no space for additional cards left, I was hoping to free one FXO of my packet 8 |
| 00:05.14 | cuban | mitchel: How so? |
| 00:05.15 | Celtic | paulc: It is the .ca sourcing that limits the choice |
| 00:05.21 | mitchel | don't they charge for incoming? |
| 00:05.26 | marlowe | Not a local # |
| 00:05.32 | marlowe | Only a toll-free # |
| 00:05.38 | dedd|dnd | mitchel: u pay per month for the Local DID |
| 00:05.39 | cuban | mitchel: SBC offers unlimited call forwarding for like 10 bucks |
| 00:05.42 | marlowe | cuban: Just make sure your VP number is a local call from your office # |
| 00:05.47 | cuban | marlowe: Yep. |
| 00:05.59 | marlowe | And cuban make sure of one other thing |
| 00:06.06 | marlowe | There's Call Forwarding and Call Transferring |
| 00:06.18 | marlowe | There's also Call Forward, and Simultaneous Call Forward |
| 00:06.19 | mitchel | marlowe: i'm talking about incoming call minutes on a line but nevermind if it's unlimited |
| 00:06.36 | cuban | So is the multi-line account with IAX2 termination something I have to call to signup for? |
| 00:06.43 | marlowe | no no no |
| 00:06.45 | marlowe | Im talking about SBC |
| 00:06.51 | cuban | I'm talking about voicepulse :) |
| 00:06.52 | marlowe | For example |
| 00:06.55 | mitchel | thats what i meant |
| 00:06.58 | mitchel | cause i use nufone |
| 00:07.01 | mitchel | and if i had incoming calls |
| 00:07.02 | paulc | marlowe: mail sent :) |
| 00:07.05 | mitchel | they would cost me per minute |
| 00:07.11 | mitchel | they aren't *free* |
| 00:07.12 | marlowe | Verizon, standard call forwarding... |
| 00:07.23 | marlowe | Someone calls your Verizon number, forwards to VP say... |
| 00:07.31 | paulc | Celtic: Yeah.. I've found telcan.net that do I think 6.5c/min + $2/month.. think that's US cents though.. suits me fine enough for testing |
| 00:07.34 | marlowe | Someone else calls Verizon number, BUSY SIGNAL |
| 00:07.51 | mitchel | nufone = 2.9cents....paul? |
| 00:07.53 | marlowe | I dont know if SBC does the same |
| 00:07.55 | marlowe | mitchel: Yes |
| 00:07.56 | Poemius | it looks more than nufone |
| 00:07.57 | Poemius | exactly |
| 00:08.14 | Poemius | plus free did if it is an 800 number |
| 00:08.26 | cuban | So I don't see any mention of IAX2 on voicepulse's website |
| 00:08.33 | marlowe | http://connect.voicepulse.com |
| 00:08.35 | twisted | cuban, connect.voicepulse.com |
| 00:08.36 | twisted | yeah |
| 00:08.37 | Poemius | go to connect |
| 00:08.38 | twisted | what marlowe said |
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| 00:08.39 | Poemius | :) |
| 00:08.43 | cuban | ahhh |
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| 00:08.57 | paulc | mitchel: yeah, nufone = 2.9c, but only US48 |
| 00:09.04 | paulc | I need accessible from canada |
| 00:09.06 | paulc | eh? |
| 00:09.10 | marlowe | eh!! |
| 00:09.11 | paulc | <-- SOOO not canadian |
| 00:09.16 | marlowe | lol |
| 00:09.16 | paulc | (the Brit in Vancouver) |
| 00:09.17 | cuban | Oh, they charge by the minute for outgoing... :( |
| 00:09.22 | marlowe | I dont want candanians calling me |
| 00:09.29 | paulc | LOL @ Marlowe |
| 00:09.33 | paulc | but what about my moose eh? |
| 00:09.35 | marlowe | cuban: Everyone does |
| 00:09.45 | cuban | Well that screws my idea. |
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| 00:10.03 | cuban | 3 cents a minute, ouch.l |
| 00:10.07 | Poemius | not really, you get a nufone for the incoming plus a packet 8 for outgoing |
| 00:10.10 | kram | brc; dunno |
| 00:10.20 | marlowe | packet 8 = unreliable, in my own eyes |
| 00:10.27 | brc_ | duno what |
| 00:10.30 | brc_ | mailing list? |
| 00:10.33 | Celtic | paulc: If you find anything cheaper than 5.9c US with .ca access pls let me know. I couldn't when I looked around a few months back |
| 00:10.41 | Poemius | it was bad sound quality up to the last firmware upgrade |
| 00:10.44 | marlowe | And plus, if I passed packet 8 the amount of call volume I do, they'd kick me out in a ssecond |
| 00:10.50 | Poemius | too bad that is when I blew up my dta |
| 00:10.57 | paulc | Celtic: Sure thing. Where did you find 5.9c? Cheapest I found was 6.5 with .ca access |
| 00:11.28 | Poemius | it depends, I think you can go all the way to 5000 minutes monthly |
| 00:11.38 | marlowe | Poemius: I push way more than that |
| 00:11.52 | Poemius | well get more than one :) |
| 00:12.04 | marlowe | If they're not dumb, which they are |
| 00:12.22 | marlowe | They'd notice its coming from the same ip |
| 00:12.42 | Poemius | it's not that, they have account usage log |
| 00:12.56 | marlowe | atacomm: Wait! Now I remember you |
| 00:13.02 | marlowe | I think |
| 00:13.23 | Poemius | but it depends, either you don't have much more than that and you can get another ATA, otherwise you can probably buy minutes wholesale |
| 00:13.29 | Celtic | paulc: Kall8 - they advertise SIP, but if you see a number there and want it IAX let me know first before you sign up and I can make a phone call.... |
| 00:13.42 | marlowe | pooh_: I do buy minutes wholesale :)O |
| 00:13.54 | marlowe | err |
| 00:15.04 | Poemius | the message got accross anyways :) . when you talked about packet 8, then I assumed you consumed less minutes :) |
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| 00:17.44 | cuban | Man at almost 3 cents a minute there is no way that'd save money. |
| 00:18.22 | cuban | To operate one line fulltime it'd cost 4,248. |
| 00:18.30 | cuban | That's an occupied line 24/7 |
| 00:18.53 | MustDie | who is gdalgliesh ? |
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| 00:20.42 | Darwin35 | ok flashing the ios did not help I think the cpu is bad |
| 00:20.59 | Darwin35 | but n way to test the cpu |
| 00:22.17 | marlowe | darkthrn: You can drop it off here, we do computer testing :) |
| 00:22.23 | marlowe | K$JTi25jtg25tg damn nick completion |
| 00:22.39 | marlowe | cuban: You use your one phone line 24/7? |
| 00:22.54 | Poemius | take a deep breath marlowe :) |
| 00:22.59 | cuban | marlowe: Nah, I'm just estimating. |
| 00:23.02 | Poemius | you are allowed to press tab more than once :) |
| 00:23.08 | Poemius | I promise :) |
| 00:23.09 | marlowe | Poemius: I know, but I forget |
| 00:23.15 | cuban | but... there is no savings in a phone system that costs by the minute |
| 00:23.34 | marlowe | cuban: Why do you want to use * anyway? |
| 00:23.41 | marlowe | Out of curiosity |
| 00:23.57 | cuban | Half the office works throughout the city. |
| 00:24.12 | cuban | They are working sloppily with single analog lines. |
| 00:24.24 | cuban | So we want ot pull everything into a PBX with VoIP. |
| 00:24.33 | marlowe | And right now how does a call get from Office A -> Office B ? |
| 00:24.36 | marlowe | Or does it have to? |
| 00:24.42 | cuban | You dial the number |
| 00:24.53 | cuban | and if someone needs to get ahold of you? They leave a voicemail at the answering service. |
| 00:24.56 | cuban | Very very sloppy. |
| 00:24.57 | Darwin35 | cubin the setup I sent you shopuld work fine |
| 00:24.58 | marlowe | And each location, has... what? An answering machine? |
| 00:25.08 | Darwin35 | but I am making changes |
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| 00:25.15 | cuban | marlowe: No. |
| 00:25.25 | cuban | marlowe: vm go to our answering service at our "main line" |
| 00:25.28 | Darwin35 | thats if they set dnd |
| 00:25.34 | cuban | After I'm done, calls will come to asterisk... |
| 00:25.41 | cuban | and go to each persons desk throughout the city |
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| 00:26.00 | marlowe | DOes each location have high speed internet? |
| 00:26.13 | cuban | yep |
| 00:26.32 | cuban | At least ~ 300kb/s |
| 00:26.39 | marlowe | So just get some digium cards, set up a central * pbx, bring in as many lines as you need via sbc using $50/mo unlim plan or whatever |
| 00:26.51 | cuban | marlowe: That's the thing, we only need 4 lines. |
| 00:26.59 | cuban | I got an FXO X100P for test, and it has horrible echo. |
| 00:27.08 | marlowe | Oh ok |
| 00:27.15 | Poemius | a real x100p? |
| 00:27.17 | marlowe | I can reccomend one other thing |
| 00:27.17 | Legend` | cuban: READ WHAT I WROTE ABOVE |
| 00:27.23 | cuban | marlowe: I'm hoping the TDM400P I got doesn't. |
| 00:27.27 | cuban | Legend`: about the gain? |
| 00:27.32 | Legend` | cuban: i was able to eliminte 75% of my echos tonight, with the gain settings |
| 00:27.39 | marlowe | VP is 24.99/mo unlimited |
| 00:27.43 | marlowe | get 4 of 'em |
| 00:27.51 | marlowe | $100/mo, 4 phone lines... unlimited calling |
| 00:27.56 | Darwin35 | VP sucks |
| 00:27.56 | marlowe | no * :) |
| 00:27.59 | marlowe | If you're worried about cost |
| 00:28.04 | paulc | does that give you rollover and stuff though? 4 lines with the same number? |
| 00:28.04 | cuban | marlowe: Right but those don't accept IAX2 termination. |
| 00:28.07 | marlowe | VP Residential does not suck |
| 00:28.07 | Darwin35 | and you can not use that service with * |
| 00:28.13 | marlowe | VP IAX sucks |
| 00:28.14 | Poemius | yes but they don't support any sip device... packet or broadvoice are 5 bucks cheaper |
| 00:28.19 | Darwin35 | unless you buy thier device |
| 00:28.25 | brc_ | is rsa > dsa |
| 00:28.29 | brc_ | I can't remember |
| 00:28.36 | marlowe | Vonage works w/ 7960's |
| 00:28.39 | marlowe | They just dont advertise that |
| 00:28.41 | Poemius | broadvoice supposedly will eventually offer asterisk support |
| 00:28.48 | Darwin35 | you have to use connect.voicepulse.com for iax and voicepulse |