irclog2html for #asterisk on 20040527

`00:00.00`	`wongjoh`	`cursor: thanks. not exactly looking to shell out $120 for more equipment, but i'll look into this a little more ;-)`
`00:00.03`	`Benton`	`hello, I ordered thevoice.digium but my ordered credits are not in my account?`
`00:00.49`	`file`	`Benton: how long have you waited?`
`00:00.53`	`cursor`	`4(12wongjoh4) I know how you feel, but it'd be the best solution in this case`
`00:01.00`	`Benton`	`50 minutes`
`00:01.04`	`cursor`	`and would give you the flexibility to do other things too`
`00:01.15`	`Benton`	`should I wait more?`
`00:02.04`	`cursor`	`They probably process them manually`
`00:02.16`	`michael1234`	`what do the options t r etc do on the dial plan`
`00:02.21`	`cursor`	`Automation? what's that then?`
`00:02.27`	`michael1234`	`which ones cause asterisk to do codec conversion for you`
`00:02.30`	`Benton`	`oh`
`00:02.33`	`foom`	`michael1234: "show application dial" in asterisk console`
`00:02.44`	`cursor`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+Dial`
`00:02.47`	`Benton`	`so need to wait more`
`00:03.01`	`Benton`	`thanks all specially file & cursor`
`00:03.06`	`cursor`	`None of them cause asterisk to do codec conversion for you`
`00:05.12`	`*** part/#asterisk Benton (Jackfiber@213.217.50.105)`
`00:05.41`	`michael`	`WOHHHOO`
`00:05.44`	`michael`	`1.5MBIT HERE I COME!`
`00:05.48`	`michael`	`BI BI 256K`
`00:06.15`	`Darwin35`	`I have 2m/256 here`
`00:06.32`	`cursor`	`I have 1000/250`
`00:07.08`	`cursor`	`at home`
`00:09.01`	`Darwin35`	`well now to add the x100p and see it it works on fbsd`
`00:09.16`	`Darwin35`	`grr then configure it even thou I have no hardlines`
`00:09.35`	`cursor`	`ack - BSD?`
`00:09.39`	`cursor`	`get GNU/Linux`
`00:09.47`	`Darwin35`	`BSD`
`00:09.58`	`cursor`	`yes - I noticed`
`00:10.02`	`cursor`	`get GNU/Linux`
`00:10.03`	`cursor`	`:-)`
`00:10.35`	`Darwin35`	`no I will stick with fbsd`
`00:10.42`	`Darwin35`	`its what I like`
`00:10.59`	`michael`	`1.5/800k`
`00:10.59`	`cursor`	`Each to their own`
`00:12.09`	`Darwin35`	`and we have zaptel for fbsd no for the x100p`
`00:12.15`	`Darwin35`	`so it should work`
`00:12.32`	`cursor`	`is it up to date with the latest CVS version`
`00:12.32`	`Moc__`	`damn startrek ..`
`00:12.44`	`cursor`	`or is it last year's port?`
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`00:13.48`	`Benton`	`hello is it possible to collect call records using voicepulse and * and SIP phones?`
`00:13.49`	`Darwin35`	`let me check`
`00:14.07`	`zb`	`???`
`00:14.19`	`cursor`	`Asterisk keeps CDR records`
`00:14.20`	`Moc__`	`Bell Canada bought 360network... damnit ..`
`00:14.34`	`Darwin35`	`FreeBSD: ports/misc/zaptel/Makefile,v 1.4 2004/05/25 14:57:32 sobomax Exp $`
`00:14.56`	`Darwin35`	`ver 2.4`
`00:14.56`	`Moc__`	`that mean our GroupTelecom link will be soon a Bell Canada Link... Damn I dont like it`
`00:15.00`	`Darwin35`	`0.4`
`00:15.05`	`Benton`	`yeah but ONE IMPORTANT NOTE: If you are trying to collect records on IAX to IAX calls you need to be aware that by default,`
`00:15.19`	`Benton`	`read its complete at wiki (voip-info)`
`00:15.28`	`Benton`	`so is that a case with voicepulse too?`
`00:15.47`	`cursor`	`I force calls through the switchboard (canreinvite = no)`
`00:15.55`	`cursor`	`and transfer = no for IAX2`
`00:16.21`	`Benton`	`but with transfer = no latency will go high`
`00:16.24`	`cursor`	`so my CDR is correct`
`00:16.46`	`cursor`	`That depends upon the load on your server`
`00:16.53`	`cursor`	`My server is lightly loaded`
`00:16.56`	`cursor`	`read: 0.00`
`00:17.24`	`Benton`	`u put those transfer=no canreinvite=no and in SIP?`
`00:17.29`	`Benton`	`:)`
`00:17.39`	`Darwin35`	`I wish safe_asterisk worked right on fbsd`
`00:17.46`	`cursor`	`canreinvite = no for SIP`
`00:17.50`	`cursor`	`transfer = no for IAX2`
`00:18.14`	`cursor`	`4(12Darwin354) Why fight it? :-)`
`00:18.28`	`Benton`	`transfer=no in [general] or [voicepulse]`
`00:18.34`	`cursor`	`general`
`00:18.57`	`cursor`	`oops`
`00:18.57`	`cursor`	`notransfer = yes`
`00:19.03`	`cursor`	`not transfer=no`
`00:19.46`	`Benton`	`oh "nottransfer=no"`
`00:19.47`	`Darwin35`	`not a linuux person`
`00:19.57`	`cursor`	`ok`
`00:20.27`	`Moc__`	`linux/bsd, it the same basic`
`00:20.49`	`Benton`	`reinvite=no`
`00:20.52`	`Benton`	`canreinvite=no`
`00:21.02`	`Darwin35`	`then why not have it all work on fbsd`
`00:21.07`	`Moc__`	`if you can run a BSD system, im sure you could get linux working just fine ;)`
`00:21.18`	`Moc__`	`because bsd is is dying sadly`
`00:21.30`	`cursor`	`Due to a lack of interest`
`00:21.30`	`Darwin35`	`no`
`00:21.45`	`Darwin35`	`we have 4 branches and it is growning in server use`
`00:21.49`	`cursor`	`and due to the BSD license allowing MS and Apple to steal and close the code for their OSs`
`00:22.04`	`Moc__`	`yep`
`00:22.09`	`cursor`	`Therefore nobody wants to contribute any longer`
`00:22.22`	`Moc__`	`I used to like freebsd, but came to see that I had to switch`
`00:22.28`	`cursor`	`GPL == freedom`
`00:22.49`	`cursor`	`well, more like this`
`00:22.53`	`cursor`	`BSD == freedom`
`00:23.02`	`cursor`	`GPL == guaranteed future freedom`
`00:23.09`	`Moc__`	`hehe`
`00:23.10`	`Benton`	`* works on freebsd?`
`00:23.16`	`Moc__`	`Benton, alittle..`
`00:23.19`	`cursor`	`nothing works on BSD`
`00:23.26`	`Benton`	`:-)`
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`00:23.51`	`cursor`	`echo "Hello world"`
`00:23.51`	`cursor`	`Segmentation violation`
`00:23.53`	`Benton`	`I mean freebsd`
`00:24.01`	`Benton`	`I tried but several errors`
`00:24.02`	`Darwin35`	`I will move to linux when FBSDF dies. and is no longer developed`
`00:24.22`	`Moc__`	`bsd had a better ip management, but iproute2 in linux help it, and bandwidth management tools are also there.`
`00:24.24`	`Benton`	`asterisk is not fine for BSD`
`00:24.36`	`r0d3nt-600m`	`www.asterisk.org is phatty.`
`00:24.45`	`Moc__`	`alot of driver support... and it being backed up by soon all hardware vendor for the servers.. so ..`
`00:24.58`	`Benton`	`with bsd license anything in bsd is implemented in linux don't worry`
`00:25.07`	`Gushi`	`Oh gee and NOBODY stole linux.`
`00:25.13`	`r0d3nt-600m`	`i just setup a server with cisco 7940 phones`
`00:25.18`	`Gushi`	`There's 50 goddamned distros, and not a good one among them.`
`00:25.20`	`Darwin35`	`other then isdn4l and the other *4l parts its just fine`
`00:25.23`	`Benton`	`but if u want to have a great troubles with new devices and features go use freebsd`
`00:25.28`	`cursor`	`Gentoo`
`00:26.10`	`foom`	`debian!`
`00:26.15`	`Darwin35`	`I have been on fbsd since bsd386 and fbsd 2.2.7`
`00:26.17`	`Benton`	`commercial vendors do not support freebsd in example try run a fasttrak controller on bsd`
`00:26.37`	`Darwin35`	`5.x will have ft drivers`
`00:26.51`	`cursor`	`"There are two major products that came from Berkeley: LSD and Unix. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."`
`00:26.55`	`Moc__`	`all I personally want, is a fast to install and stable distro with all the feature I could need.. people dont like it but fedora/redhat offer that`
`00:26.56`	`Darwin35`	`5.x is where we are developing those drivers`
`00:26.59`	`Benton`	`darwin35, but if u use fbsd in corporate environment u'll see ur boss will fire u :-)`
`00:27.00`	`cursor`	`LSD and BSD`
`00:27.27`	`bkw_`	`Benton no you won't`
`00:27.32`	`Moc__`	`and so far Redhat install can be sold more easily to Windows users than Debian or Freebsd Text install`
`00:27.34`	`bkw_`	`you will have an idiot boss.. nothing more`
`00:27.39`	`bkw_`	`you can just tell him its linux`
`00:27.44`	`bkw_`	`he wouldn't know the diff`
`00:27.46`	`Benton`	`ft drivers in 5.x have been designed based on porting tx100 sources available on promise`
`00:29.10`	`Benton`	`bkw, without joking, I have to say, freebsd lacks of commercial support also not supported by commercial vendors in example Intel compilers`
`00:29.18`	`Benton`	`I know u can use ports`
`00:29.21`	`Benton`	`but`
`00:29.30`	`Benton`	`why using ports when linux is out there`
`00:29.43`	`bkw_`	`Benton sorry freebsd just feels like it fits better`
`00:29.45`	`bkw_`	`thats it`
`00:29.48`	`Damin`	`Benton: The FastTrack controllers suck ass. Why would you want to run them anyway? Even their "Supported" platforms (I.E. Windows) drivers are so fucked up that anyone that uses them in a production mission critical application is an idiot.`
`00:29.58`	`bkw_`	`management on a freebsd is great`
`00:30.02`	`Benton`	`damin, I agree with u`
`00:30.06`	`cursor`	`shell prompt`
`00:30.08`	`BoRiS`	`khospitality?`
`00:30.12`	`bkw_`	`now gentoo on the linux side is nice too`
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`00:30.28`	`bkw_`	`if it were not for gentoo I don't think I could suffer thru linux`
`00:30.30`	`Darwin35`	`its a POS software I have been developing`
`00:30.33`	`Moc__`	`You guys have soo much time on your hand playing with gentoo`
`00:30.37`	`Damin`	`Benton: If you want good, universally supported RAID cards, buy LSI Logic (Formerly AMI Megaraid)`
`00:30.48`	`Benton`	`bkw, gentoo is for newbies not very fine when u need high customization capability but gentoo is fine for workstations`
`00:30.49`	`bkw_`	`Moc__ nope we just set it up and go with it.`
`00:30.58`	`cursor`	`I think people are confusing the BSD/Linux kernel with the rest of the OS`
`00:31.06`	`cursor`	`like the GNU tools etc`
`00:31.08`	`bkw_`	`Benton its linux and Gentoo is far from newbie friendly`
`00:31.15`	`Darwin35`	`linux kernel is a pain`
`00:31.17`	`cursor`	`which are the same on both if you install them`
`00:31.23`	`bkw_`	`and linx has no place on a desktop in my eyes`
`00:31.24`	`Benton`	`damin, from last year we use RAID scsi , fasttrack is a fake scsi controller using ide`
`00:31.54`	`Moc__`	`I liked the kernel 2.6 for compiling so far`
`00:32.03`	`cursor`	`2.6 is great`
`00:32.09`	`Benton`	`bkw, I'm using linux for 5 years fo r my desktop even laptop`
`00:32.18`	`Benton`	`better to say i've used`
`00:32.25`	`cursor`	`Now that's a good idea - food`
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`00:33.03`	`bkw_`	`Benton maybe you have but I can't... too much shit isn't where it should be in my opinion.. more power to ya if you can run it..`
`00:33.09`	`bkw_`	`I just feel it has no place on a desktop.`
`00:33.15`	`Moc__`	`I never got used of Linux on desktop..`
`00:33.16`	`bkw_`	`that might change in the years to come`
`00:33.28`	`bkw_`	`but as it stands linux lacks alot of stuff that i'm used to.`
`00:33.54`	`Benton`	`try installing fedora on a dual boot and u'll see it gets better`
`00:33.55`	`Moc__`	`I need TMPGEnc for Linux, Photoshop and Premiere`
`00:34.01`	`bkw_`	`yep`
`00:34.12`	`bkw_`	`I need Photoshop and others`
`00:34.15`	`Moc__`	`knoppix boot CD is great`
`00:34.17`	`Benton`	`I agree Moc, linux is not fine in some sort of graphics`
`00:34.31`	`bkw_`	`plus I have to run windows because this silly java app`
`00:34.33`	`Benton`	`but if u r a maya user like me u see linux is faster than win`
`00:34.44`	`bkw_`	`adn wasn't java going to be multi platform?`
`00:34.49`	`bkw_`	`I think sun fucked that up totally`
`00:34.56`	`bkw_`	`I wish Java would die`
`00:35.03`	`Benton`	`java was developed for Unix at first`
`00:35.05`	`Moc__`	`for a home user, Linux is PERFECT.. word processor and everything...`
`00:35.16`	`Moc__`	`Just gaming and video stuff aint great`
`00:35.19`	`drumkilla`	`bkw_: have you tried the gimp?`
`00:35.22`	`bkw_`	`Moc you must have some really smart people`
`00:35.26`	`bkw_`	`and yes I have tried Gimp`
`00:35.31`	`bkw_`	`its not where it needs to be yet`
`00:35.41`	`bkw_`	`like I said.. give it a few years more`
`00:35.49`	`bkw_`	`and I think I might change my mind`
`00:36.03`	`Benton`	`Moc install openmotif and opengl drivers, but those who have Nvidia cards can install the driver supported by nvdia games are great if u use even wine (windows emulator)`
`00:36.11`	`Moc__`	`bkw_, well knoppix is really nice even for a home user. It even have more stuff than they would need`
`00:36.17`	`bkw_`	`maybe so`
`00:36.24`	`bkw_`	`I have thought about trying it`
`00:36.31`	`bkw_`	`I just want an OS that gets the fuck out of my way`
`00:36.34`	`bkw_`	`and linux isn't that yet`
`00:36.36`	`drumkilla`	`haha`
`00:36.53`	`Moc__`	`well I use Linux knoppix as my Windows Rescue CD ;)`
`00:36.56`	`Benton`	`u need apple then :-)`
`00:37.02`	`Benton`	`apple is also linuxish`
`00:37.03`	`bkw_`	`Benton thats what i'm going to`
`00:37.30`	`Moc__`	`I can't stand an apple .. I tryed it at the store... and It felt horrible`
`00:37.47`	`Moc__`	`it look nice thought`
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`00:37.55`	`Benton`	`apple is fine easy to use and very linuxish alsi very fast faster than win on the same env but if ur mahor works are not graphic u can ignore apple`
`00:37.57`	`Merlin23`	`anyone here from digium?`
`00:38.14`	`Moc__`	`I must really suck then... couldn't do much with that apple`
`00:38.17`	`Benton`	`mahor -> major`
`00:38.46`	`Benton`	`but personally I use linux and windows side by side in dual boot environment`
`00:39.05`	`Moc__`	`all my servers are linux... and my desktop is windows sadly`
`00:39.12`	`Benton`	`when it comes to sip u cannot find a softphone for linux with sip and GSM`
`00:39.27`	`Benton`	`gnophone is IAX`
`00:39.45`	`Benton`	`LIPz4 doesn't support GSM`
`00:39.50`	`Moc__`	`MY current open applications rightnow. Mirc, Outlook,SecureCRT,Acrobat,Winamp,MSN`
`00:40.08`	`\|Blaze\|`	`Benton: have you tried kphone?`
`00:40.22`	`Benton`	`from ikall?`
`00:40.37`	`drumkilla`	`Windows vs. Linux: the most overdone, repetiticous flame war, ever`
`00:40.57`	`Benton`	`drumkilla, the nerver ending story`
`00:41.05`	`\|Blaze\|`	`Benton: http://www.wirlab.net/kphone/index.html`
`00:41.22`	`Moc__`	`I want to run on a linux... beable to do rm -rf / as my user and logback and system is running fine`
`00:41.51`	`nitram`	`Benton: linphone works with gsm`
`00:41.57`	`Benton`	`blaze, i'm testing it right now`
`00:42.00`	`nitram`	`i am using it`
`00:42.10`	`Benton`	`where is linphone?`
`00:42.18`	`nitram`	`www.linphone.org`
`00:42.18`	`drumkilla`	`sourceforge, i think`
`00:42.22`	`drumkilla`	`or not, heh`
`00:43.42`	`Benton`	`does kpnone support GSM?`
`00:44.07`	`michael1234`	`I keep getting proxy authentication required`
`00:44.09`	`Merlin23`	`yes kphone does`
`00:44.10`	`michael1234`	`any hints`
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`00:44.16`	`notdone`	`I'missing a HiFi codec....`
`00:44.48`	`brc007`	`somebody remind me`
`00:44.53`	`Benton`	`nitram thanks linphone works`
`00:45.23`	`Benton`	`but its homepage says: Page closed`
`00:45.25`	`brc007`	`what's the difference between the 7940G and 7940, and 7960 and 7960G`
`00:45.36`	`Benton`	`I got it from k-lite`
`00:46.07`	`Benton`	`seems it's not developed any longer`
`00:46.48`	`Benton`	`nitram, linphone has violated patent`
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`00:47.02`	`nitram`	`Benton: how so?`
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`00:47.24`	`Benton`	`read its home page`
`00:47.42`	`file`	`Benton: you didn't read it all`
`00:47.52`	`nitram`	`Benton: u read it`
`00:48.08`	`Benton`	`yes`
`00:48.14`	`bkw_`	`brc007 the G's are global version that have icons on the buttons`
`00:48.23`	`Darwin35`	`just update zaptel`
`00:48.24`	`brc007`	`yeah I know that`
`00:48.29`	`brc007`	`but is there any other difference?`
`00:48.32`	`bkw_`	`other than that their isn't much diff in them`
`00:48.34`	`Benton`	`it says : This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents are a threat for our freedom of creation.`
`00:48.35`	`michael`	`how much bandwidth does gg723 use?`
`00:48.37`	`Merlin23`	`pleeeease, anyone here from digium?`
`00:48.40`	`brc007`	`much or none?`
`00:48.42`	`file`	`Benton: read below that`
`00:48.47`	`brc007`	`looking on the wiki but I don't see anything`
`00:48.53`	`bkw_`	`May 26, 2004 3:21 pm`
`00:48.53`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:48.53`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:48.53`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:48.53`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:48.58`	`bkw_`	`file thats my phones`
`00:49.03`	`file`	`bkw_: bastards!`
`00:49.15`	`file`	`Benton: You will be redirected to swpat.ffii.org in 20 seconds for more information. To enter linphone.org, click here.`
`00:49.17`	`file`	`:)`
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`00:49.22`	`bkw_`	`Estimated delivery date May 27, 2004 by 4:30 pm`
`00:49.42`	`Benton`	`file, bellow that says similar thing in frensh and etc`
`00:49.51`	`brc007`	`bkw_: how do you like the cisco speakerphones?`
`00:49.51`	`cursor`	`Perhaps Elvis has them`
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`00:50.13`	`bkw_`	`brc007 what speaker phone the conf phone`
`00:50.19`	`bkw_`	`or the speaker phone on a 7960?`
`00:50.24`	`brc007`	`yeah`
`00:50.30`	`Benton`	`file is that closed or not at last`
`00:50.30`	`brc007`	`7940's don't have speakerphones?`
`00:50.32`	`bkw_`	`7960's are kick ass`
`00:50.34`	`zb`	`???`
`00:50.50`	`file`	`Benton: click on the link and it'll take you to the site`
`00:50.57`	`brc007`	`need 17 7905(probably G's) and 2 speakerphones for the office`
`00:51.08`	`michael1234`	`why would I be getting this message SIP/2.0 407 Proxy Authentication Required`
`00:51.14`	`cursor`	`zb has a lot of questions`
`00:51.15`	`brc007`	`bkw_: gonna email jon again to get a price on the 7960's`
`00:51.25`	`Benton`	`thank u file`
`00:51.35`	`Benton`	`but linphone works on gentoo too?`
`00:51.48`	`cursor`	`ebay has loads of 7960s`
`00:51.51`	`nitram`	`Benton: linphone works on $LINUX`
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`00:52.30`	`DirtyD`	`are the mailing lists searchable?`
`00:52.30`	`michael1234`	`does anyone know why all of a sudden my sip phones get that error message SIP/2.0 407 Proxy Authentication Required`
`00:53.17`	`Benton`	`gentoo has window maker`
`00:53.24`	`Darwin35`	`ok I just got * to compile on a dec alpha 21264/600`
`00:53.35`	`Benton`	`but linphone says gnome`
`00:53.50`	`nitram`	`so what? i use kde`
`00:54.03`	`cursor`	`KDE - spit`
`00:54.05`	`Darwin35`	`it uses gnome libs`
`00:54.08`	`cursor`	`You need Gnome`
`00:54.18`	`DirtyD`	`I can't search these mailing lists..`
`00:54.21`	`Darwin35`	`KDe 3 is nice`
`00:54.33`	`cursor`	`Gnome is better :-)`
`00:54.36`	`bkw_`	`fedex isn't getting a good rep with me again`
`00:54.54`	`bkw_`	`ya if you get phones on ebay you might get screwed`
`00:54.58`	`bkw_`	`Jon will take care of you`
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`00:55.28`	`Darwin35`	`Gnome sucks donkey balls`
`00:55.29`	`bradford`	`does anyone know if packet8 is down?`
`00:55.55`	`bkw_`	`can you traceroute to dem?`
`00:55.57`	`bkw_`	`have you called them?`
`00:56.15`	`BoRiS`	`I hate packages that have 30 gnome library dependencies.`
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`00:57.07`	`cursor`	`There's no need for X, Gnome, KDE or any other nonsense on a server`
`00:57.17`	`cursor`	`Keep it clean`
`00:57.26`	`bradford`	`I'm not sure.. I'm actually just setting it up.. for the first time and i'm getting fast busy on the setup number`
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`00:57.36`	`bradford`	`and I was being lazy.. i'll troubleshoot some more`
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`00:58.17`	`pulu`	`Sorry for the jump in and shout but does anyone know of any critical errors in the current head cvs?`
`00:58.19`	`Darwin35`	`well 1 server is my x server 1 server is my app server and 1 server is www/mail/tftpboot/dns/whaterev I need`
`00:58.44`	`wolfson`	`anyone ever seen the following while loading wxfo drivers: wcfxo: Out of space to write register 06 with e0`
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`00:59.06`	`Darwin35`	`I do it the right way and I use xterminals for display`
`00:59.15`	`cursor`	`check the bug tracker, pulu`
`00:59.49`	`cursor`	`if you have a few spare years to wait for the pages to load`
`01:00.05`	`pulu`	`cursor: sounds like a plan, except it's really slow over here`
`01:00.09`	`pulu`	`oh i guess it's slow everywhere`
`01:00.14`	`cursor`	`yes`
`01:00.25`	`cursor`	`300,000 bugs per page will slow it down`
`01:00.27`	`pulu`	`well there's nothing in the topic so I guess I'll be brave, thanks`
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`01:00.49`	`Moc__`	`damn bugs.digium is getting VERY SLOW ..`
`01:00.59`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`01:01.06`	`Moc__`	`I guess it run progressql ;)`
`01:01.17`	`cursor`	`probably - pgsql is slooooow`
`01:01.26`	`file`	`it's Mantis, it's rebelling again`
`01:01.30`	`cursor`	`MySQL is much better for web use (more reads than writes)`
`01:02.03`	`bkw_`	`ok enuf of the OS/SQL server crap`
`01:02.07`	`Moc__`	`it aint fun to browse bugs anymore..`
`01:02.16`	`bkw_`	`Moc__ not many bugs left`
`01:02.22`	`bkw_`	`Moc__ try ControlPlayback`
`01:02.57`	`Benton`	`I have a proble, I used DTMF=inband and asterisk -r shows several incorrect DTMF in 2 frames ? do u get the same?`
`01:03.07`	`Benton`	`proble -> problem`
`01:03.08`	`bkw_`	`Benton what phones?`
`01:03.14`	`Benton`	`SIP`
`01:03.17`	`bkw_`	`duh`
`01:03.19`	`bkw_`	`what phones?`
`01:03.22`	`BoRiS`	`type`
`01:03.22`	`bkw_`	`brand/model`
`01:03.55`	`bkw_`	`?`
`01:03.57`	`Benton`	`I tried snom 105/200 and softphone: x-lite`
`01:04.07`	`Benton`	`all have the same issue`
`01:04.16`	`bkw_`	`show me the exact error message`
`01:04.17`	`Moc__`	`bkw_, 1716 ?`
`01:04.19`	`bkw_`	`or warning`
`01:04.25`	`bkw_`	`Moc__ its closed now I think`
`01:04.26`	`Benton`	`but I don't enter dtmf (digits) just talking is encountered`
`01:04.27`	`michael1234`	`how do you get sip to register does anyone have any problems with sip jsut not registering`
`01:04.39`	`cursor`	`Try dtmfmode = rfc2833`
`01:05.00`	`wolfson`	`anyone ever seen the following while loading wxfo drivers: wcfxo: Out of space to write register 06 with e0`
`01:05.08`	`cursor`	`registering with what?`
`01:05.26`	`Moc__`	`bkw_ do we have that into voicemail ?`
`01:05.27`	`michael1234`	`cursor: asterisk`
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`01:05.56`	`rburkhall`	`hi all`
`01:05.57`	`bkw_`	`Moc__ we broke it out into an API call`
`01:05.59`	`bkw_`	`and improved on it`
`01:06.01`	`Moc__`	`I know our octel system press 2 one time it go back x second, press it two time, it goes to the begining of the message`
`01:06.01`	`michael1234`	`or does anyone know a iax dialer that uses g711alaw`
`01:06.07`	`bkw_`	`you can now pause/resume as they play`
`01:06.26`	`cursor`	`check your password and other entries in your [whatever] in sip.conf`
`01:06.54`	`rburkhall`	`has anyone seen the following; Found new ID3 Header`
`01:06.55`	`rburkhall`	`Beginning asterisk shutdown....`
`01:06.55`	`rburkhall`	`Executing last minute cleanups`
`01:06.55`	`rburkhall`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:06.55`	`rburkhall`	`Asterisk cleanly ending (2).`
`01:07.04`	`bkw_`	`what mgp123 version`
`01:07.18`	`bkw_`	`mpg123 --help`
`01:07.25`	`cursor`	`ID3 is a MP3 thing`
`01:07.43`	`rburkhall`	`High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3.`
`01:07.43`	`rburkhall`	`Version 0.59s-mh4 (2000/Oct/27).`
`01:07.50`	`bkw_`	`rburkhall on gentoo?`
`01:08.01`	`bkw_`	`go get mpg123 0.59r`
`01:08.02`	`rburkhall`	`na, debian - knoppix`
`01:08.10`	`bkw_`	`remove that stupid 0.59s-mh4 crap`
`01:08.11`	`rburkhall`	`ok, thanks`
`01:08.19`	`cursor`	`Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15)`
`01:08.19`	`rburkhall`	`doing it now`
`01:08.22`	`bkw_`	`0.59r works... 0.59s is pure shit`
`01:08.54`	`Benton`	`bkw, this is that error`
`01:08.55`	`Benton`	`May 28 20:59:08 WARNING[327695]: dsp.c:1452 ast_dsp_process: Unable to process inband DTMF on 2 frames`
`01:09.17`	`Damin`	`Benton: It's not a "Fake" Scsi controller. It is a real SCSI controller to the OS, but it uses IDE drives.`
`01:09.26`	`bkw_`	`Benton well its not a warning`
`01:09.31`	`bkw_`	`er error`
`01:09.33`	`bkw_`	`its a warning`
`01:09.46`	`bkw_`	`your best bet is to turn off all the warnings/errors and debug and live a happy life`
`01:09.47`	`Benton`	`read promise`
`01:09.47`	`Benton`	`they say it's fake scsi`
`01:09.53`	`Benton`	`because it's not scsi but it reports scsi on linux`
`01:09.56`	`Damin`	`Benton: Kind of like the Adaptec MFM to SCSI converters that we used to use to connect MFM and RLL drives to Apple IIEs.`
`01:10.06`	`Damin`	`Benton: It's not Fake SCSI.`
`01:10.21`	`Damin`	`Benton: It implements a SCSI command set, therefore it is a SCSI device.`
`01:10.39`	`Damin`	`Benton: The DRIVE and RAID logic is implemented using IDE drives.`
`01:10.46`	`cursor`	`therefore it's pretending to be a SCSI device`
`01:10.48`	`Benton`	`Damin, when I say fake I don't mean fraud`
`01:10.56`	`Benton`	`I mean it's not a true scsi`
`01:11.08`	`Benton`	`it pretends it's scsi`
`01:11.17`	`Damin`	`cursor: No, the OS facing controller -IS- a SCSI device. :)`
`01:11.25`	`Benton`	`the white paper of promise tech says fake scsi word`
`01:11.32`	`rburkhall`	`should i use gcc 2.95 or 3.3, i'm going with 2.95 for now`
`01:11.47`	`bkw_`	`3.3.2`
`01:11.48`	`Damin`	`Benton: I've fixed their drivers for them on several occasions. ;) I know the FastTrack quite well.`
`01:11.50`	`cursor`	`3.2 or 3.3 are ok`
`01:11.51`	`BoRiS`	`3.4`
`01:11.55`	`bkw_`	`gcc version 3.3.2 20031218 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.2-r5, propolice-3.3-7)`
`01:12.01`	`Benton`	`damin, if os determines it scsi it's because it returns scsi style responses`
`01:12.08`	`rburkhall`	`damn`
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`01:12.25`	`Benton`	`damin, I don't tell they r fraudsters or so`
`01:12.25`	`cursor`	`Red Hat 8.0 comes with 3.2 (plus random Red Hat patches)`
`01:12.32`	`Damin`	`Benton: Yes. To the OS it is a SCSI device. It implements a SCSI interface and responds to SCSI commands.`
`01:12.42`	`Benton`	`yeah`
`01:12.47`	`DirtyD`	`Whats a good SIP provider?`
`01:12.52`	`Benton`	`but actually uses ide hdds`
`01:13.01`	`DirtyD`	`I'm looking to save a buck or two`
`01:13.31`	`Damin`	`Benton: That's what I said. The RAID logic uses IDE.`
`01:13.32`	`Moc__`	`is there a reason mpg123 location is hardcoded ?`
`01:13.33`	`Benton`	`and they keep their main chip tech as a trade secret this is why their linux code comes out with a binary lib linked`
`01:13.39`	`cursor`	`Good SIP providers will differ depending upon where you are`
`01:14.00`	`cursor`	`and you may want to consider IAX providers if there are any near you`
`01:14.19`	`Damin`	`Benton: It's a bunch of IDE controllers on a card w/ a SCSI command set presented to the OS.`
`01:14.41`	`cursor`	`Dump it and get SATA :-)`
`01:14.51`	`Damin`	`Benton: Therefore, for all intense purposes, it is a freaking SCSI device to the OS!!!!!`
`01:14.52`	`DirtyD`	`cursor: does IAX allow you to acces PSTN to/from?`
`01:15.14`	`cursor`	`yes - the provider will take care of that for you`
`01:15.37`	`Damin`	`Benton: Most RAID arrays are presented as a single SCSI device to the OS via the driver. It's easier to write for a well defined, universally accepted API!`
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`01:16.35`	`Beave`	`hey all.`
`01:16.44`	`cursor`	`moo`
`01:17.20`	`rburkhall`	`your right mpg123s is crap`
`01:17.25`	`Damin`	`cursor: Actually, the new workstation I'm building has an onboard Silicon Logic RAID-1 chip w/ two SATA controllers. I ordered a pair of Seagate 10,000 RPM 160 Gig drives to max it out.`
`01:17.34`	`file`	`standards? ha, nobody follows those!`
`01:18.09`	`DirtyD`	`cursor: could u give me an example of an IAX provider in the US that I could check out, just to see what its all about.`
`01:18.09`	`cursor`	`SATA is ok`
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`01:18.20`	`Beave`	`I just upgraded two servers via CVS (head). Now, I can't call via FWD between the two asterisk servers. I get a, "Failed to authenticate on INVITE"...`
`01:18.29`	`cursor`	`Voiceulse Connect`
`01:18.34`	`asteriskrox`	`repeat after me, mpg123 is crap, mpg123 is crap, mpg123 is`
`01:18.36`	`cursor`	`IAXtel - for testing etc.`
`01:18.36`	`Damin`	`cursor: It'll be an interesting experiment to see if x86_64 Linux (Suse or Crapdora) on SATA will actually boot yet, or if I'll need to boot from a separate ATA drive.`
`01:19.06`	`cursor`	`Fufone`
`01:19.13`	`Damin`	`cursor: The Silicon Logic chips are supported, but I'm not sure where Linux booting from SATA is at yet.`
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`01:19.38`	`cursor`	`Linux will boot from SATA`
`01:19.51`	`cursor`	`although that largely depends upon your BIOS`
`01:19.56`	`DirtyD`	`cursor: These guys profile dedicated PSTN numbers?`
`01:20.01`	`DirtyD`	`provide`
`01:20.15`	`Damin`	`cursor: Cool. This is a Dual Opteron Tyan board.`
`01:20.16`	`rburkhall`	`ok i got one more, WARNING[1075745888]: chan_oss.c:980 load_module: XXX I don't work right with non-full duplex sound cards XXX`
`01:20.17`	`cursor`	`Voicepulse and NuFone do`
`01:20.26`	`DirtyD`	`how about vonage?`
`01:20.41`	`rburkhall`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:20.44`	`file`	`vonage won't do IAX, and won't work with Asterisk directly`
`01:20.51`	`cursor`	`Vonage provide their own kit for you to use instead of Asterisk`
`01:21.01`	`cursor`	`so don't use them if you want Asterisk`
`01:21.12`	`rburkhall`	`use voicepluse`
`01:21.20`	`rburkhall`	`or sipphone.com`
`01:21.49`	`cursor`	`I've never seen a voicepulse customer arguing with voicepulse on the asterisk-users mail list`
`01:22.00`	`wolfson`	`do the x101p cards need to each have their own irq?`
`01:22.12`	`rburkhall`	`u dont set it`
`01:22.20`	`rburkhall`	`it's done by the drivers`
`01:22.21`	`Damin`	`cursor: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigerk8w.html <- That's my new workstation board, with a pair of Opteron 246s..`
`01:22.33`	`cursor`	`sounds good`
`01:22.35`	`*** part/#asterisk Benton (Jackfiber@213.217.50.105)`
`01:22.40`	`wolfson`	`well there error I am having, according to the digium faq, says each card needs its own irq`
`01:22.49`	`rburkhall`	`i just got 2 today and set it all up , works great`
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`01:22.51`	`DirtyD`	`voicepulse? 2.95 a minute? whoa`
`01:22.55`	`wolfson`	`Q. What does this type of error mean? "wcfxo: Out of space to write register 05 with 0a"`
`01:22.55`	`wolfson`	`A. The means that the fxo device is not receiving interrupts. The hardware needs to be on it's own irq.`
`01:23.06`	`rburkhall`	`2.95 cent a minute`
`01:23.18`	`Darwin35`	`not in the us`
`01:23.19`	`file`	`NuFone is 2.9 cents a minute billed in 6 second intervals`
`01:23.24`	`Damin`	`cursor: Huh.. I just noticed something lame though.. The SATA controller is connected to the 33 Mhz bus.`
`01:23.27`	`DirtyD`	`ohhhhhhh`
`01:23.30`	`rburkhall`	`outbound, free incomming -- $24 for 6 months`
`01:23.37`	`DirtyD`	`so 3 cents a minute`
`01:23.41`	`cursor`	`Get an external SATA card`
`01:23.46`	`rburkhall`	`yep`
`01:23.55`	`cursor`	`external == PCI`
`01:23.55`	`rburkhall`	`i don't use the outbound`
`01:24.09`	`rburkhall`	`customer's call in`
`01:24.30`	`cursor`	`$24 is free?`
`01:24.41`	`rburkhall`	`ok you know`
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`01:25.09`	`rburkhall`	`for six months, for me that's $4 dollar a month`
`01:25.37`	`rburkhall`	`anyone seen darius`
`01:25.39`	`wolfson`	`according to lspci, all my x101p cards are on seperate irqs, but still getting that "Out of space to write register" error`
`01:25.46`	`cursor`	`take a look at IPkall`
`01:25.54`	`Darwin35`	`8 buks a month for a nmbr + any outgping`
`01:26.05`	`cursor`	`They'll give you a free incoming number in Washington state (USA)`
`01:26.19`	`rburkhall`	`can i get help with my sound card problem`
`01:26.28`	`rburkhall`	`ok i got one more, WARNING[1075745888]: chan_oss.c:980 load_module: XXX I don't work right with non-full duplex sound cards XXX`
`01:26.58`	`Damin`	`rburkhall: Get a full duplex sound card.`
`01:27.00`	`cursor`	`Perhaps you need a full duplex sound card :-)`
`01:27.12`	`rburkhall`	`on my laptop`
`01:27.16`	`cursor`	`My Asterisk server doesn't have a sound card`
`01:27.25`	`rburkhall`	`i have full duplex`
`01:27.34`	`rburkhall`	`but it see's it as half`
`01:28.05`	`rburkhall`	`maybe i better get some verification, i have a Compaq Persario 3000`
`01:28.10`	`cursor`	`That'll be a sound card driver/setup problem`
`01:28.17`	`Moc__`	`damn conference ..`
`01:28.22`	`cursor`	`or something to do with OSS setup etc.`
`01:28.35`	`rburkhall`	`what is the oss setup program`
`01:28.50`	`cursor`	`I don't own a sound card, so I don't know`
`01:29.11`	`Damin`	`Sou8nd Cards are lame.`
`01:29.24`	`bkw_`	`no they are gay`
`01:29.30`	`rburkhall`	`ok guys help me here`
`01:29.45`	`cursor`	`I run my music through my SlimServer`
`01:30.19`	`Darwin35`	`slimserver wow`
`01:30.30`	`cursor`	`Do you need to use that sound card? Why not just remove the module from the Asterisk config?`
`01:30.34`	`Darwin35`	`all my xterms have sound`
`01:31.08`	`cursor`	`I have an old NCD xterm gathering dust`
`01:31.17`	`Moc__`	`ok audio from PBX system to SIP phone is perfect, but the reverse have delay of like 15 seconds !!!`
`01:31.18`	`cursor`	`That's its job :-)`
`01:31.32`	`Darwin35`	`cusr what model`
`01:31.35`	`rburkhall`	`i have sound on the desktop in x`
`01:31.53`	`cursor`	`not sure - hold on, I'll take a look...`
`01:32.29`	`cursor`	`NCD 88k`
`01:32.38`	`Darwin35`	`hmmm`
`01:32.39`	`cursor`	`very old`
`01:32.44`	`Darwin35`	`yeah`
`01:32.47`	`michael1234`	`asterisk is not connecting calls due to round delay property how do you turn it off`
`01:33.00`	`Darwin35`	`mine are all explora 701's`
`01:33.00`	`cursor`	`6MB memory, 8bit colour`
`01:33.11`	`Darwin35`	`and ones I have built myself`
`01:33.34`	`Moc__`	`reload dont reload musiconhold.conf :(`
`01:33.37`	`Darwin35`	`I build most of mine from nan-itx motherboards and a cf drive`
`01:33.45`	`cursor`	`Old P200s make good X servers`
`01:33.52`	`rburkhall`	`how do i set the number of rings the x101p picks up`
`01:34.04`	`cursor`	`Lord of the rings - 3`
`01:34.10`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:34.10`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:34.11`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:34.11`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:34.11`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:34.39`	`xeet2`	`rbuckhall: use "wait" before your "answer", and set your immediate=no`
`01:34.44`	`Moc__`	`bkw_ VOIP thought my 7960 is always strange...`
`01:34.55`	`cursor`	`How many rings do you want to wait before the X101P picks up?`
`01:34.56`	`bkw_`	`Moc_ you are too`
`01:34.57`	`bkw_`	`:P`
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`01:35.04`	`rburkhall`	`ok let's see`
`01:35.37`	`jefrey`	`Short write: -1/6 (Unknown error 500) what problem is that?`
`01:35.56`	`u`	`Is g.972 proprietary?`
`01:35.59`	`bkw_`	`search the mailing list`
`01:36.01`	`rburkhall`	`3 or 4`
`01:36.04`	`bkw_`	`g729 is`
`01:36.08`	`cursor`	`G.972 is not`
`01:36.20`	`bkw_`	`wtf is G.972?`
`01:36.20`	`u`	`Hm, which one is it that is?`
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`01:36.38`	`cursor`	`How would I know :-)`
`01:36.41`	`Moc__`	`bkw_, audio from my sip phone is bad... I get like 15 second delay`
`01:36.53`	`Moc__`	`sound fine from the TDM400 card using FXO`
`01:36.56`	`cuban`	`I mean g.729`
`01:37.15`	`cursor`	`G.729 is closed`
`01:37.19`	`xeet2`	`moc: sounds like you have some serious latency issues on your network`
`01:37.23`	`bkw_`	`no its open but you can't use it legally`
`01:37.23`	`cursor`	`Don't use it - it'll only encourage them`
`01:37.31`	`bkw_`	`you have ot write it yourself`
`01:37.32`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`01:37.33`	`cursor`	`== closed`
`01:37.37`	`bkw_`	`good luck trying`
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`01:38.31`	`cuban`	`bkw_ Why can't you use it legally?`
`01:38.47`	`cursor`	`because some idiot patented parts of it`
`01:38.50`	`cuban`	`I'm having trouble choosing a codec to use.`
`01:39.06`	`cursor`	`to stop people using it`
`01:39.15`	`Moc__`	`Audio is fine when calling voicemail, but is very bad on MOH when calling conference`
`01:39.20`	`xeet2`	`cuban: between what devices, and what is between the two devices?`
`01:39.44`	`Moc__`	`bkw_ conference MOH sound better than mine from my 7960`
`01:40.05`	`cuban`	`xeet2: I have two sip phones, and on one end is a cable modem with a max of 40KB/s up and the other end has 4.5 up`
`01:40.08`	`Moc__`	`but my conference is better from the Zap interface`
`01:40.28`	`xeet2`	`cuban: you're just calling sip phone to sip phone?`
`01:40.33`	`rburkhall`	`ok how many wait's should be set, it still picks up after 2 rings`
`01:40.36`	`cuban`	`xeet2: Actually not yet the other end has 1 megabit up right now. It's getting upgraded to 4.5 in 2 months.`
`01:40.42`	`cuban`	`xeet2: Yes, sip phone to sip phone.`
`01:40.50`	`xeet2`	`what kind of phones?`
`01:40.51`	`cuban`	`So some of the other users will end up having that 40 KB/s cap too...`
`01:41.16`	`cursor`	`rburkhall: switch off caller ID support if you want it to pick up on the first ring`
`01:41.19`	`cuban`	`xeet2: Probably a mix of SNOM 2000s, my 7960 and a grandstream`
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`01:41.27`	`xeet2`	`cuban: no * in between?`
`01:41.43`	`cuban`	`xeet2: * will have to be there because some of these users are behind NAT.`
`01:41.55`	`xeet2`	`ok, so thats not sip phone to sip phone then`
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`01:42.05`	`cuban`	`xeet2: In some cases it will be...`
`01:42.13`	`cuban`	`xeet2: Most it will not.`
`01:42.24`	`xeet2`	`well, the 7960 will do ulaw, alaw, and g729`
`01:42.45`	`cuban`	`Hm, okay.`
`01:42.49`	`xeet2`	`if you are really doing phone to phone, you could use g729, since that is included with the cisco`
`01:42.49`	`cuban`	`G729 is ruled out.`
`01:42.53`	`cursor`	`* will transcode from whatever to whatever`
`01:43.16`	`cursor`	`use ulaw on the 7960 and ilbc/gsm on the outgoing side of *`
`01:43.17`	`cuban`	`xeet2: Well some 7960s will be talking to SNOM200s, etc.`
`01:43.28`	`xeet2`	`if you do 7960 to * to 7960, you can do ulaw or alaw (g711)`
`01:43.42`	`xeet2`	`or get a licence for 729`
`01:43.44`	`xeet2`	`for *`
`01:43.48`	`Moc__`	`xeet2 you could also 729`
`01:43.54`	`cuban`	`Does Asterisk have the module for 729?`
`01:44.01`	`xeet2`	`yes, but you have to pay`
`01:44.07`	`xeet2`	`10$ per active call`
`01:44.08`	`Moc__`	`you dont need 729 for * if it 7960 -> * -> 7960`
`01:44.20`	`xeet2`	`moc: if one link is only 40k, you do`
`01:44.29`	`cursor`	`and you have to throw out your SCSI server and buy a cheap IDE toy`
`01:44.43`	`Moc__`	`I mean you dont need g729 liscence for 7960 -> * -> 7960`
`01:44.45`	`xeet2`	`cursor: the new codec doesn't have that problem`
`01:44.54`	`cuban`	`xeet2: Right I understand that, but there is a module? Is it included in the default distro or do I get the module from Digum?`
`01:45.05`	`xeet2`	`you have to buy it from digium`
`01:45.07`	`cuban`	`10$ per active call? Damn...`
`01:45.13`	`cuban`	`Well let's rule that out.`
`01:45.14`	`xeet2`	`they e-mail you the stuff you need`
`01:45.19`	`Moc__`	`cuban, it 10$ per active encoding channel..`
`01:45.22`	`xeet2`	`10$? heh`
`01:45.28`	`cuban`	`Oh? NM`
`01:45.36`	`cuban`	`I think there will be only one 7960, the others will be SNOM200s I think.`
`01:45.37`	`Moc__`	`7960 -> * -> 7960 dont need the liscence..`
`01:45.51`	`xeet2`	`uhm`
`01:45.57`	`xeet2`	`it doesn't?`
`01:46.02`	`brc007`	`no`
`01:46.04`	`brc007`	`it doesn't`
`01:46.06`	`xeet2`	`cool`
`01:46.13`	`cursor`	`well, it might`
`01:46.15`	`brc007`	`However, do not forget you DO need licenses if you wish to record calls`
`01:46.17`	`Moc__`	`if both side can do g729, it can do passthrought of the stream without needing the codec`
`01:46.18`	`brc007`	`or access voicemail`
`01:46.22`	`cursor`	`if the second 7960 is down and you need to go to VM`
`01:46.28`	`Moc__`	`record/playback/musiconhold`
`01:46.32`	`xeet2`	`yeah, or stuff like that`
`01:46.53`	`brc007`	`cursor: that would no longer be g729 passthrough (7960 -> * -> 7960)`
`01:46.56`	`cursor`	`So if you want G.729 then you have to add to the patent holder's millions`
`01:46.58`	`xeet2`	`cuban: you're kind of in a tough spot with that 40k link`
`01:47.08`	`cuban`	`xeet2: that's 40 kilobytes`
`01:47.08`	`Moc__`	`1 phone could use up to 4 g729 codec liscence`
`01:47.15`	`xeet2`	`cuban: consider putting a * box there and use ilbc with iax, or get a 729 licence or two`
`01:47.15`	`brc007`	`yep`
`01:47.16`	`cuban`	`xeet2: That's not enough for one phone call?`
`01:47.27`	`xeet2`	`oh, most connections are measured in bits`
`01:47.38`	`cuban`	`xeet2: I put KB to indicate bytes.`
`01:47.42`	`cuban`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:47.45`	`xeet2`	`ok, didn't see that =)`
`01:47.49`	`xeet2`	`well then you're fine`
`01:47.56`	`xeet2`	`just use ulaw everywhere and see how that goes`
`01:47.58`	`cuban`	`You think I should use G711?`
`01:48.04`	`cuban`	`Okay sweet.`
`01:48.14`	`xeet2`	`if you run into issues, look at something else`
`01:48.15`	`cursor`	`or get a faster line`
`01:48.23`	`xeet2`	`also * to *, you can use jitter buffers`
`01:48.25`	`xeet2`	`comes in handy`
`01:48.28`	`cursor`	`upgrade from 40k to something more like 100`
`01:48.32`	`rburkhall`	`cursor:: i need 3 rings`
`01:48.47`	`cuban`	`cursor: Cable company doesn't offer higher amounts.`
`01:48.48`	`xeet2`	`360k should be enough to handle things without a problem`
`01:48.49`	`cursor`	`why 3?`
`01:49.03`	`xeet2`	`* is his answering machine`
`01:49.06`	`rburkhall`	`need time for attendant to pick up`
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`01:49.33`	`xeet2`	`er, 320`
`01:49.37`	`cursor`	`use Wait() in the dial plan`
`01:49.41`	`cuban`	`Next question: Besides ebay has anyone found any good deals on 7960s?`
`01:49.51`	`cursor`	`so * picks up after 2 and the dial plan delays a moment`
`01:49.54`	`rburkhall`	`i put the wait's in`
`01:49.58`	`cursor`	`so the caller hears 3`
`01:50.05`	`rburkhall`	`no 2`
`01:50.17`	`xeet2`	`rbuckhall: you need to set immediate=no`
`01:50.24`	`rburkhall`	`set it`
`01:50.33`	`xeet2`	`and put an answer in there after your wait`
`01:50.42`	`rburkhall`	`ok`
`01:50.54`	`cursor`	`yes, so it waits before answering`
`01:50.57`	`xeet2`	`so exten => s,1,Wait,3`
`01:51.01`	`cursor`	`and the caller hears more rings`
`01:51.02`	`cursor`	`as a result`
`01:51.04`	`xeet2`	`exten => s,2,Answer`
`01:51.27`	`cursor`	`I answer on the first ring`
`01:51.57`	`cursor`	`Well, my asterisk kicks in on the first ring and does a Dial() to the exten`
`01:51.59`	`rburkhall`	`there is daytime and nite time answering`
`01:52.32`	`xeet2`	`cursor: I think he has a phone connected to the same pots line as the x100p`
`01:52.43`	`rburkhall`	`yep`
`01:52.49`	`cursor`	`oh`
`01:52.54`	`rburkhall`	`and sip phone on the computers`
`01:53.04`	`xeet2`	`odd setup =)`
`01:53.05`	`cursor`	`why?`
`01:53.09`	`rburkhall`	`sipura 2k`
`01:53.12`	`rburkhall`	`development`
`01:53.49`	`rburkhall`	`one line in in different context also`
`01:53.58`	`rburkhall`	`channel`
`01:54.18`	`rburkhall`	`home line =>`
`01:54.18`	`cuban`	`Can someone tell me what 's' is? I'm following the documentation and it keeps referring to an 's' extenstion...`
`01:54.23`	`cursor`	`At night time (i.e. now :-() my callers would be sent to the central VM after the first ring`
`01:54.25`	`rburkhall`	`work line =>`
`01:54.27`	`cursor`	`as soon as * picks up`
`01:55.02`	`rburkhall`	`s is the starting point in your context`
`01:55.10`	`cursor`	`not always`
`01:55.26`	`rburkhall`	`exten => 200,s,Background(xxx)`
`01:55.32`	`cuban`	`I basically want all my extenstions to ring for 20 seconds, then go to voicemail.`
`01:55.37`	`cuban`	`So is this the right way to do it?`
`01:55.38`	`rburkhall`	`exten => 200,s,1,Background(xxx)`
`01:55.46`	`cuban`	`exten => s,1,Dial(${ARG1},20,t)`
`01:55.47`	`rburkhall`	`exten => 200,s,2,Background(xxx)`
`01:55.53`	`cuban`	`exten => s,2,Voicemail(u${MACRO_EXTEN})`
`01:55.55`	`rburkhall`	`exten => 200,2,s,Background(xxx)`
`01:56.02`	`rburkhall`	`or what ever`
`01:56.09`	`cuban`	`exten => s,1,Dial(${ARG1},20,t)`
`01:56.10`	`cuban`	`exten => s,2,Voicemail(u${MACRO_EXTEN})`
`01:56.10`	`cuban`	`That?`
`01:56.18`	`cursor`	`get rid of all of the ",s" parts`
`01:56.24`	`cursor`	`200,1,foo`
`01:56.28`	`cursor`	`200,2,bar`
`01:56.37`	`cuban`	`What is 200?`
`01:56.44`	`rburkhall`	`extension`
`01:56.52`	`cuban`	`There is no global way to do it for everyone?`
`01:56.53`	`rburkhall`	`u need to read the docs`
`01:57.01`	`cuban`	`I define by each extenstion?`
`01:57.01`	`cursor`	`I was using rburkhall's example`
`01:57.07`	`Darwin35`	`might kids`
`01:57.14`	`cuban`	`I thought that`
`01:57.15`	`rburkhall`	`lol`
`01:57.15`	`cursor`	`might not`
`01:57.16`	`cuban`	`exten => s,1,Dial(${ARG1},20,t)`
`01:57.16`	`cuban`	`exten => s,2,Voicemail(u${MACRO_EXTEN})`
`01:57.28`	`cursor`	`Later, darwin`
`01:57.30`	`cuban`	`I thought s was default... like any undefined ext`
`01:57.44`	`cuban`	`rburkhall: I'm reading the docs, just a bit confused about the syntax.`
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`01:58.11`	`cursor`	`That sort of thing depends upon the context`
`01:58.19`	`cursor`	`most incoming calls will specify an extension`
`01:58.42`	`rburkhall`	`here is a real one for you`
`01:58.47`	`cursor`	`some (X101P) will not`
`01:58.47`	`rburkhall`	`[mainmenu]`
`01:58.47`	`rburkhall`	`; Example "main menu" context with submenu`
`01:58.47`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,1,Wait,1; Wait a second, just for fun`
`01:58.47`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,2,Answer; Answer the line`
`01:58.47`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,3,DigitTimeout,5; Set Digit Timeout to 5 seconds`
`01:58.48`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,4,ResponseTimeout,10; Set Response Timeout to 10 seconds`
`01:58.50`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,5,BackGround(wutogm); "Thanks for calling press 1 for Service/Sales, 2 for Accounting,."`
`01:58.52`	`rburkhall`	`;exten => s,6,Wait,3; Wait for key press`
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`01:59.20`	`rburkhall`	`does that help`
`01:59.35`	`cuban`	`I still fail to understand what s is...`
`01:59.37`	`rburkhall`	`s is the starting poing`
`01:59.40`	`rburkhall`	`s is the starting point`
`01:59.48`	`cuban`	`Okay.`
`01:59.49`	`rburkhall`	`of a context`
`01:59.56`	`cuban`	`So basically, if I have 100 exten.`
`02:00.03`	`wolfson`	`Finally got this wcfxo card installed. ran ztcfg, it shows up in zttol, but when i run "zap show channels" its empty. any idea?`
`02:00.05`	`cuban`	`I have to do a 2 lines for them?`
`02:00.08`	`cursor`	`if your call comes in via SIP (3000@example.com) then 300 would be the extension`
`02:00.12`	`cuban`	`1 for the ring, and 1 for VM?`
`02:00.21`	`rburkhall`	`no active channel`
`02:00.29`	`cursor`	`if your call comes in via X101P then there's no way to pass 3000 (for instance)`
`02:00.36`	`cursor`	`so the 's' would be used`
`02:00.49`	`cuban`	`So an incoming call is s?`
`02:00.50`	`rburkhall`	`;Dial Accounting`
`02:00.51`	`rburkhall`	`[accounting]`
`02:00.51`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,1,Wait,1`
`02:00.51`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,2,Wait,1`
`02:00.51`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,3,Dial(SIP/9232,20)`
`02:00.52`	`rburkhall`	`exten => s,4,Voicemail(u9232); Unless busy`
`02:00.53`	`rburkhall`	`exten => t,1,Goto(mainmenu,s,5); Repeat OGM`
`02:01.13`	`cursor`	`You should always Wait(1) after an Answer`
`02:01.17`	`cuban`	`I'm not stupid, I'm just missing one thing. Not sure what it is.`
`02:01.23`	`cuban`	`My question again is this:`
`02:01.32`	`cuban`	`I want everyone to go to voicemail after 20 seconds of ringing.`
`02:01.40`	`cuban`	`Do I have to do a`
`02:01.59`	`cuban`	`exten => 1123,1,Dial(${ARG1},20,t)`
`02:02.07`	`cuban`	`exten => 1123,2,Voicemail(u${MACRO_EXTEN})`
`02:02.08`	`cuban`	`for everyone?`
`02:02.17`	`cursor`	`yes - or create a macro`
`02:02.33`	`cursor`	`or is that part of your macro?`
`02:02.42`	`cuban`	`I just copied that off the wiki`
`02:02.45`	`cursor`	`if that's your macro then use 's'`
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`02:02.46`	`cuban`	`because I'm so confused.`
`02:02.48`	`rburkhall`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`02:03.24`	`cuban`	`The problem with asterisk docs is that there seems to be no starting point to get the basics out of the way. At least not one that I've found.`
`02:03.24`	`rburkhall`	`u is unavailable, b is busy`
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`02:03.51`	`rburkhall`	`well the source code is there`
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`02:04.01`	`rburkhall`	`the beauty of linux`
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`02:04.54`	`cursor`	`[macro-call-local]`
`02:04.54`	`cursor`	`exten => s,1,SetMusicOnHold(${MUSIC_ON_HOLD})`
`02:04.54`	`cursor`	`exten => s,2,Dial(SIP/${ARG1},${RING_TIMEOUT},tr)`
`02:04.54`	`cursor`	`exten => s,3,VoiceMail2(su${ARG1}) ; unavailable (or no answer)`
`02:04.54`	`cursor`	`exten => s,4,Hangup`
`02:04.55`	`cursor`	`exten => s,103,VoiceMail2(sb${ARG1}) ; busy with another call or DND`
`02:04.57`	`cursor`	`exten => s,104,Hangup`
`02:05.00`	`cursor`	`That sort of thing`
`02:05.33`	`cuban`	`cursor`
`02:05.40`	`cuban`	`Once again, the s confuses the hell out of me.`
`02:05.59`	`cuban`	`So what you just pasted, that transfers everyone to vm after 20 seconds of ringing?`
`02:06.12`	`DirtyD`	`Hi`
`02:06.15`	`cursor`	`Well, that's a macro which does as you said, yes`
`02:06.22`	`cursor`	`and this is an incoming call context...`
`02:06.23`	`cursor`	`[incoming-fwd]`
`02:06.23`	`cursor`	`exten => s,1,Macro(call-local,${OPERATOR_EXTEN})`
`02:06.23`	`cursor`	`exten => h,1,Hangup`
`02:06.23`	`cursor`	`exten => fax,1,Hangup`
`02:06.26`	`cursor`	`...`
`02:06.51`	`cuban`	`So, now where do i define things like ${RING_TIMEOUT}`
`02:06.54`	`cursor`	`This is another:`
`02:06.54`	`cursor`	`[local-extensions]`
`02:06.54`	`cursor`	`exten => 3000,1,Macro(call-local,${EXTEN})`
`02:06.54`	`cursor`	`exten => h,1,Hangup`
`02:06.54`	`cursor`	`exten => fax,1,Hangup`
`02:07.09`	`cursor`	`[globals]`
`02:07.14`	`DirtyD`	`I just signed up with voicepulse, how come it doesnt pass callerid? it passes 000-000-0000 to the phone I'm calling.`
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`02:07.24`	`cuban`	`${ARG1} is the extenstion being called...`
`02:07.27`	`cuban`	`Correct?`
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`02:07.29`	`cursor`	`[globals]`
`02:07.30`	`cursor`	`RING_TIMEOUT = 15`
`02:07.34`	`cursor`	`OUTGOING_PSTN = g1`
`02:07.38`	`cursor`	`MUSIC_ON_HOLD = default`
`02:07.39`	`cursor`	`etc.`
`02:07.53`	`cursor`	`ARG1 is the first argument to the macro`
`02:07.59`	`rburkhall`	`cursor: that is not working`
`02:08.00`	`cursor`	`well, the first after the macro name`
`02:08.27`	`xeet2`	`dirtyd: ask voicepulse?`
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`02:09.43`	`DirtyD`	`well, I'm just wondering if its a problem with my sip.conf file.`
`02:09.55`	`DirtyD`	`it should be accepting the callerid I set right?`
`02:10.05`	`cuban`	`cursor`
`02:10.09`	`cuban`	`I'm still missing something man...`
`02:10.19`	`xeet2`	`receiving, yes... accepting, they don't have to`
`02:10.24`	`cuban`	`Can I PM you?`
`02:10.37`	`wolfson`	`Finally got this wcfxo card installed. ran ztcfg, it shows up in zttol, but when i run "zap show channels" its empty. any idea?`
`02:10.40`	`cursor`	`I don't have a PM client`
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`02:10.51`	`cuban`	`cursor can you join #flood then?`
`02:11.04`	`cursor`	`for a moment`
`02:11.12`	`doughecka`	`ok`
`02:11.14`	`doughecka`	`question`
`02:11.24`	`xeet2`	`wolfson: its configured in your zapata.conf right?`
`02:11.25`	`doughecka`	`how do I get this dumb server to stop passing off my calls`
`02:11.36`	`doughecka`	`its disconnecting itself from 2 iax calls`
`02:11.37`	`wolfson`	`xeet2: i read the docs and it is best I can tell`
`02:11.37`	`cuban`	`cursor: Okay that's my dialplan, when I dial my other extention it says it doesn't exist!`
`02:11.43`	`doughecka`	`so its iax 2 iax`
`02:12.02`	`xeet2`	`wolfson: you configured it in both /etc/zaptel.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf, right?`
`02:12.21`	`wolfson`	`xeet2: yes`
`02:12.44`	`cuban`	`cursor: Nevermind, I guess I'm just not catching on`
`02:12.44`	`Beave`	`ok - wierd. just downgrade, and now my FWD inbound is working again.`
`02:12.52`	`wolfson`	`signalling=fxs_ks\n context=incomming\n channel=> 1`
`02:13.03`	`Beave`	`has there been some changes with SIP inbound in CVS head?`
`02:13.25`	`cursor`	`yes`
`02:13.38`	`cursor`	`well, changes in chan_sip anyway`
`02:13.56`	`xeet2`	`what changed?`
`02:14.04`	`Beave`	`I was getting INVITE authentication failures between two freshly upgraded asterisk servers.`
`02:14.16`	`Beave`	`asterisk via FWD to asterisk.. that is.`
`02:15.05`	`Beave`	`I just downgraded, now my FWD between the two asterisk servers.`
`02:15.43`	`Beave`	`but CVS head was doing some wierd stuff. I imagine it could be a config problem on my side.`
`02:16.05`	`Beave`	`but, its sort of wierd everything went back to normal after the "downgrade".`
`02:16.24`	`Beave`	`has anyone seen any bug reports about this sort of thing?`
`02:17.15`	`Beave`	`"Failed to authenticate user" on fresh CVS head upgrades via SIP?`
`02:18.11`	`wolfson`	`xeet2: any ideas or ways I can debug it. zttool shows it fine`
`02:18.13`	`bkw_`	`using nat?`
`02:18.18`	`bkw_`	`Beave localnet has changed`
`02:18.23`	`*** join/#asterisk doughecka (~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net)`
`02:18.23`	`Beave`	`no nat.`
`02:18.24`	`bkw_`	`localnet=ip/mask`
`02:18.29`	`Beave`	`let me check`
`02:18.55`	`cuban`	`Cursor is my hero!!`
`02:19.06`	`cuban`	`Cursor, get an amazon wishlist online :-P`