00:00.06 | PHXAZ007 | hmm..... dunno..... I have a channel bank and some X101p cards...... |
00:00.18 | raul415 | thats cool |
00:00.22 | raul415 | thanks for your help |
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00:00.30 | PHXAZ007 | no problem |
00:00.54 | PHXAZ007 | try aggressive and each of the different echo canceller algo's |
00:01.05 | PHXAZ007 | one of them will probably do the trick |
00:01.36 | PHXAZ007 | also vi /etc/asterisk/zaptel.conf and try changing the echocancel=whatever to between 2 and 256 and see if that helps |
00:01.50 | Darwin35_ | ok its a weekend evenone go home from work underss and take a hot bath |
00:01.56 | PHXAZ007 | where vi = vi or your favority text editor |
00:02.09 | Darwin35_ | then grab that someone special and have at it |
00:02.17 | PHXAZ007 | lol |
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00:03.32 | bkw_ | GOD DAMN this lady |
00:03.41 | bkw_ | wardials my voicemail |
00:03.48 | bkw_ | then doesn't know how to use her god damn mouse |
00:04.02 | Maveric | rofl |
00:04.22 | Maveric | you know a good way to shut her up? |
00:04.24 | PHXAZ007 | can't you track her by CID and s,hangup ? |
00:04.48 | PHXAZ007 | err s,1,hangup IIRC |
00:06.52 | twisted | hahaha |
00:06.55 | tessier | ARGH |
00:07.14 | tessier | My T-1 provider just left me a message saying they aren't going to turn it up because it "looks like we aren't ready yet" |
00:07.21 | brc007 | aww |
00:07.26 | tessier | I think she means my end isn't ready. |
00:07.36 | twisted | tessier, thx btw :) |
00:07.38 | tessier | What else could I need to do? |
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00:07.42 | tessier | twisted: You are welcome. :) |
00:07.59 | brc007 | how many phx people we got |
00:08.08 | Maveric | <---- phx |
00:08.10 | brc007 | we ougta meet somewhere or sumten |
00:08.10 | tessier | This was supposed to have been done over a week ago. |
00:08.13 | debaser | whats a pbx? |
00:08.17 | PHXAZ007 | me2 |
00:08.18 | brc007 | haha |
00:08.37 | ManxPower | tessier: Plug the line in so they see singal on it. |
00:08.44 | tessier | The line is plugged in. |
00:08.45 | ManxPower | configure it too |
00:08.52 | Maveric | aren't one of you like very private? |
00:08.56 | Maveric | why would you want to meet? |
00:09.08 | ManxPower | tessier: The only thing left to do is bitchslap the person |
00:09.10 | brc007 | tessier: "try switching it on" (obscure chitty chitty bang bang reference) |
00:09.12 | Maveric | are we going to start aug |
00:09.15 | Maveric | asterisk users group |
00:09.16 | Maveric | lol |
00:09.22 | brc007 | you mean |
00:09.27 | brc007 | paug |
00:09.30 | tessier | I do have a red light on the T-1 card. I assumed that was because their end is down. |
00:09.30 | PHXAZ007 | LOL |
00:09.31 | brc007 | p*ug |
00:09.48 | brc007 | 4RED ALARM |
00:09.50 | tessier | I've never set up a T-1 though so who knows. |
00:10.01 | ManxPower | tessier: Channelized voice T-1? |
00:10.01 | Maveric | tessier your in for fun then |
00:10.09 | michael1234 | tessier: sounds like an excuse to me. They dont need your end to be working to activate the circuit |
00:10.10 | tessier | ManxPower: Yes |
00:10.14 | PHXAZ007 | ifconfig hdlc0 up |
00:10.14 | ReniRmx | anyone here ever played with outgoing calls?? |
00:10.26 | ReniRmx | callbacks? |
00:10.35 | tessier | The card sees the PRI... |
00:10.35 | stefank | ReniRmx: yes, callbacks? |
00:10.50 | michael1234 | michael123: I run a licensed carrier in australia and e1 and t1 lines do not require the customer to be configured to turn them on |
00:10.53 | tessier | Found a Wildcard: Digium Wildcard T100P T1/PRI |
00:10.53 | PHXAZ007 | do you have a physical link ? |
00:11.12 | tessier | Using ESF/B8ZS coding/framing |
00:11.12 | tessier | Calling startup (flags is 4099) |
00:11.12 | tessier | Registered tone zone 0 (United States / North America) |
00:11.20 | tessier | PHXAZ007: You talking to me? How can I tell? |
00:11.32 | ManxPower | michael1234: No, but many telcos will use "no equipment on the line" as an excuse. |
00:11.34 | stefank | maybe |
00:11.37 | PHXAZ007 | LED on the back = GREEN |
00:11.41 | PHXAZ007 | IIRC |
00:11.44 | tessier | PHXAZ007: Ah, no. I have a red led. |
00:11.55 | PHXAZ007 | dat bad |
00:12.04 | debaser | instead of starting an asterisk users group, you should just staert up a phonesex voice club |
00:12.12 | PHXAZ007 | don't remember what red means but it's bad |
00:12.17 | tessier | What do they mean by "turn up the line" anyhow? Would I even be able to get a physical link before they do that? |
00:12.18 | Maveric | rofl debaser |
00:12.22 | ReniRmx | asstricks ;) |
00:12.27 | debaser | not that asterisk isn't cool and all, but, chicks with the phonesex voices are more appealing |
00:12.30 | ManxPower | tessier: You can try telling them you are planning on doing a live switch over so there will not be equipment on the line until you have a line to move the equipment too. In other words lie to them. |
00:12.33 | Maveric | with the digium voice lady ! and pre recorded messages! |
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00:13.07 | michael1234 | tessier: That is what I would do. Then I would abuse management and just tell them to do the job they are paid to do. |
00:13.09 | PHXAZ007 | plug your end in and tell them to turn the T1 on |
00:13.20 | PHXAZ007 | you may also need to use a T1 crossover cable |
00:13.40 | Maveric | yeah i'm using a crossover for our pri |
00:13.43 | Maveric | in our office |
00:13.56 | robert__ | I am looking for how to setup my TDM400P |
00:14.13 | ManxPower | Useful Asterisk Docs (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unofficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ (my site) and http://asteriskdocs.org/ |
00:14.16 | *** join/#asterisk adami (rtrttr@D5E004D6.kabel.telenet.be) |
00:14.22 | ManxPower | The FNORDS site has simplified config files. |
00:14.24 | PHXAZ007 | I'm using straight thru CAT5e I think Qwest already crossed them for us..... I guess...... |
00:14.30 | Darwin35_ | what is dialparties.agi for ? |
00:14.39 | Darwin35_ | I cant find info on it |
00:14.53 | robert__ | I was that there is no doc's for the setup at digium |
00:14.58 | PHXAZ007 | I made a few T1X cables anyway but didn't use 'em |
00:15.17 | michael1234 | PHXAZ007: The telco should deliever it so you plug a striaght through cable in. Anything else is just lazy on their part |
00:15.18 | robert__ | using my configuration |
00:15.44 | PHXAZ007 | I had to use one to go from the Adtran TA750 to the WC T100P card tho |
00:15.49 | debaser | Maveric: i know one girl who professionally pimps her voice for radio/tv out in cali, and ex-phonesex-operator with a communications degree. at some point some phone system i touch is gonna come out pimped |
00:16.02 | Maveric | i think i needed to use a crossover because we are using an adit |
00:16.07 | robert__ | I talked to John at Digium he didn't have time to send me the information |
00:16.27 | Maveric | sweet debaser send her over here |
00:16.28 | Maveric | lol |
00:16.30 | michael1234 | How is everyone getting through to digium but I cant |
00:16.42 | robert__ | can any help |
00:16.47 | PHXAZ007 | they close @ 1700 hours EST IIRC |
00:16.54 | PHXAZ007 | - 0500 GMT |
00:17.19 | PHXAZ007 | they are in Alabama |
00:18.20 | ManxPower | robert__: |
00:18.22 | ManxPower | Asterisk CVS instructions: http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=download Download CVS HEAD or CVS STABLE for Asterisk. Zaptel and LIBPRI do not have a CVS stable branch, only a CVS head branch. I recommend the stable Asterisk branch. |
00:18.40 | ManxPower | robert__: See the README and INSTALL in the zaptel directory. |
00:19.36 | robert__ | Yea I did, however it doesn't explain how to setup a single card with 2 modules on it |
00:19.36 | *** part/#asterisk adami (rtrttr@D5E004D6.kabel.telenet.be) |
00:20.23 | robert__ | I am looking for how to commant to modprobe the card correctly |
00:20.24 | bkw_ | robert__ its called trial and error |
00:20.27 | ManxPower | robert__: You should be able to figure that out from the FNORDS sample config files. |
00:20.47 | PHXAZ007 | modprobe wcfxs |
00:20.54 | PHXAZ007 | IIRC |
00:21.02 | bkw_ | yep |
00:21.07 | Maveric | well i'm outta here see you guys later |
00:21.16 | PHXAZ007 | cya Maveric :) |
00:21.53 | robert__ | what about the other modules on the same card, 4 port |
00:22.10 | PHXAZ007 | you only have to modprobe once |
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00:22.25 | bkw_ | wcfxs supports the FXO modules too |
00:22.25 | PHXAZ007 | then vi /etc/zapata.conf and /etc/asterisk/zaptel.conf IIRC |
00:22.31 | debaser | so long, fair well |
00:22.36 | robert__ | port 1 is the FXS and port 4 is fxo |
00:23.02 | matobago | where could i get cdr_mysql??? |
00:23.27 | debaser | do ports 2 and 3 have kittens in them? |
00:23.50 | debaser | because that would be a pretty neat trick |
00:26.32 | bkw_ | matobago use cdr_odbc :P |
00:26.58 | matobago | bkw_ that works with mysql? |
00:27.14 | bkw_ | yes |
00:27.23 | bkw_ | check voip-info.org |
00:27.28 | bkw_ | cdr_odbc will even work with MSSQL |
00:27.29 | bkw_ | :P |
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00:27.44 | bkw_ | it will work with anything that has an ODBC driver |
00:27.53 | matobago | yes i cheked there |
00:28.06 | bkw_ | voip-info has a howto |
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00:28.10 | matobago | ok thanks i'm gonna try this... |
00:28.21 | Hogie | god |
00:29.24 | *** part/#asterisk adami (rtrttr@D5E004D6.kabel.telenet.be) |
00:29.47 | PHXAZ007 | I'm outta here, have a good weekend everyone :) |
00:30.11 | *** part/#asterisk PHXAZ007 (~chatzilla@63.251.181.234) |
00:30.41 | debaser | btw, its friday. |
00:31.12 | debaser | (i just got a reminder or i would have had no idea.) |
00:32.44 | dant | it's saturday |
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00:35.13 | michael1234 | what does this mean /usr/local/include/ptlib/timer.h:147: macro or `#include' recursion too deep |
00:35.23 | michael1234 | when compiling the h323 module |
00:42.28 | Hez | debaser: and its a long weekend =) |
00:42.59 | debaser | monday a holiday? |
00:43.07 | Hez | yeah =) |
00:43.35 | debaser | cool |
00:43.52 | YoYo | what holiday is monday? |
00:44.11 | ManxPower | YoYo: USA Memorial Day |
00:44.18 | YoYo | I thought that was next monday |
00:44.31 | YoYo | shit.. guess not |
00:44.33 | dant | it is |
00:44.39 | dant | isn't it? |
00:44.42 | ManxPower | I thought so too, but everyone says it's this coming monday |
00:44.43 | dant | ie 31st |
00:44.49 | YoYo | ya... 31st |
00:45.12 | Hez | this monday is a holiday here thats all I know =) |
00:45.18 | YoYo | what holiday hez? |
00:45.22 | Hez | no idea |
00:45.22 | YoYo | and where is there? |
00:45.31 | Hez | bc, canada |
00:45.40 | YoYo | canadians have weird holidays |
00:45.42 | dant | Victoria Day 21-May |
00:45.45 | dant | in canada |
00:45.48 | Hez | dant: thats the one |
00:45.53 | YoYo | victoria day? WTF? |
00:46.03 | Hez | YoYo: heh i have always thought it was the other way around ;P |
00:46.07 | YoYo | oh yeah... canada is still under the queen's rule |
00:46.21 | dant | queen victoria? |
00:46.23 | Hez | YoYo: not really, but we like days off |
00:46.30 | YoYo | dant, yes... queen victoria |
00:46.31 | Hez | dant: probably originally |
00:46.44 | YoYo | and I'm sure there'll be an elizabeth day when QE passes |
00:46.47 | Hez | Prince Victoria? hmmm |
00:46.48 | YoYo | suprised there isn't a Di Day |
00:46.49 | YoYo | =D |
00:46.51 | Hez | just sounds funny |
00:46.51 | dant | YoYo, she's a little dead :) |
00:47.25 | YoYo | you've heard of "victorian style" ? |
00:47.45 | YoYo | well, that was teh archetual style from when Queen Victoria was alive |
00:47.54 | YoYo | hell, BC has a city named after her |
00:49.20 | matthewa | mmm, that bc city has most excellent beer |
00:50.19 | Hez | mmmm beer |
00:50.30 | matthewa | and cute goth |
00:50.52 | twisted | hahaha |
00:50.57 | twisted | goth chicks can be VERY cute |
00:51.00 | XARiUS | did someone say beer? |
00:51.03 | twisted | i know... i dated a couple |
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00:51.36 | Hez | beers on XARiUS msg me for his cc number |
00:51.44 | XARiUS | =D |
00:51.47 | Hez | ;) |
00:51.55 | Hez | it is friday after all! =) |
00:52.01 | XARiUS | got a fridge full of bud light from our company party last week |
00:52.07 | XARiUS | I can't give the shit away, no room for food =( |
00:52.08 | XARiUS | lol |
00:52.16 | XARiUS | nobody wants it! |
00:52.28 | Hez | heh no kiddin' =) |
00:52.35 | matthewa | if it's not 6% it's not real beer! |
00:52.44 | Hez | oh crap lookata time :\ |
00:52.45 | XARiUS | agreed. |
00:52.49 | XARiUS | I don't want it either |
00:53.00 | XARiUS | but I can't bring myself to throw away perfectly good (sorta) beer. |
00:53.17 | matthewa | mmm |
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00:55.39 | dant | XARiUS, just drink more of it |
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00:57.23 | XARiUS | lol |
00:57.31 | XARiUS | my bladder is worth more than bud light. |
00:57.37 | XARiUS | haven't had a can of it. |
00:57.41 | XARiUS | (yeah, they're cans, which is even worse) |
00:58.02 | matthewa | Bud Light, the 00's version of Synthohol |
00:58.04 | dant | eww |
00:59.03 | YoYo | Bud would be good if they would come out with a beer flavored beverage |
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01:03.58 | tessier | hmm...I can set the caller id number to whatever I want but the telco is putting in their own name (the name that goes with that number) instead of taking the name I provide. |
01:04.02 | Connor_ | can someone verify that if you have a multiring setup and one of the lines is busy it'll kick the whole multiline ring group out as "busy" ? |
01:04.17 | tessier | I'm pretty sure it used to work differently... |
01:04.20 | ManxPower | tessier: That is correct. There is nothing you can do about that. |
01:04.24 | ScaredyCat | [root@ASTERISK root]# hcitool scan |
01:04.24 | ScaredyCat | Scanning ... |
01:04.24 | ScaredyCat | <PROTECTED> |
01:04.26 | tessier | Really? Hmm |
01:04.30 | ManxPower | tessier: It's always worked that way |
01:04.33 | tessier | ok |
01:04.33 | ScaredyCat | we now have BT presence! |
01:04.57 | tessier | Not a problem really. Just need to get the cid on this number changed with the telco then. |
01:05.31 | Connor_ | I still can't get caller id with name working on inbound with my cisco gateway.. |
01:06.05 | Moc__ | you need a PRI for sending different Name or number |
01:06.25 | Connor_ | Moc__, Just number, name won't work. |
01:06.26 | ManxPower | Moc: He has that |
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01:07.18 | Moc__ | * dont support name over PRI ? |
01:07.33 | ManxPower | Moc: PRIs do not support setting the NAME |
01:07.43 | ManxPower | Well, the telcos do not support setting the name over PRI |
01:07.55 | Moc__ | how come ours do ? |
01:08.13 | rossco | ManxPower: some do...but most are requiring it as a Facility IE in the Setup Message, not as a display IE |
01:08.15 | ManxPower | Moc: Either they don't or you have an acutal SS7 link to the telco |
01:08.34 | XARiUS | I'd be very surprised if you could set the name yourself, since the CID links into the 911 database. |
01:08.42 | ManxPower | rossco: Do you have a list of the ones that do? |
01:08.46 | Connor_ | CID does NOT link to 911 |
01:08.55 | XARiUS | SBC does. |
01:08.56 | rossco | ...only in Canada :) |
01:08.59 | Connor_ | ANI does, which you can set, then they do a database lookup. |
01:09.01 | XARiUS | in the US |
01:09.06 | ManxPower | XARiUS: Usually it's the ANI that links to 911 assuming your provider doesn't override it for 911 calls |
01:09.29 | XARiUS | yeah, SBC gets all it's CID names from the 911db based on the number you set. |
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01:09.47 | tessier | What are most voip providers doing for 911? |
01:10.13 | tessier | I've read that they don't deal with it and recommend you have at least one POTS line for 911. |
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01:13.27 | IOscanner | How any one had issues with musiconhold. I can't resume a call once I put the user on hold (cisco 7960). |
01:13.27 | tessier | Asterisk SetCIDName only for those unusual cases where you can set the name via PRI then? |
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01:13.55 | ManxPower | tessier: Or are sending the call via SIP or IAX or H322 or MGCP |
01:14.25 | ManxPower | My callerid name is ManxPower as long as my call doesn't leave the network of Asterisk servers |
01:15.11 | ManxPower | ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!! |
01:15.16 | ManxPower | CVS -stable is broken! |
01:15.37 | ManxPower | All my qualifies are showing as 3ms for IAX |
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01:16.14 | ManxPower | time to find the patch in -head and backport it |
01:16.33 | Moc__ | damn, I got 2 choices... pay 22$CND for a SIP with a local phone number.. or get a PRI for .. quite more than 22$ CND |
01:17.48 | tessier | ManxPower: Ah good point. |
01:18.05 | tessier | Moc: Get the PRI! :) |
01:18.53 | Moc__ | yea, I wish... really.. |
01:19.08 | Moc__ | I could afford it, but people will say Im crazy (and they should) |
01:20.06 | ManxPower | Moc: I got a customer to pay for it. 8-) |
01:20.08 | Moc__ | but I could buy one ... and get the t100 !!! but .. argh.. |
01:20.24 | Moc__ | what customer.. I dont have customer ;) that the problem.. |
01:20.34 | IOscanner | Wow what a typo. Has any one had issues with musiconhold. I can't resume a call once I put the user on hold (cisco 7960), they hear music and all is good just call pull them back. |
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01:21.16 | Moc__ | I could probably get 125$ off the 450$ for the T1 (for 16 or 8 channels, dont recall) |
01:21.54 | Moc__ | there is no damn monthly plan for PRI ;) |
01:21.57 | Los | hey guys i'm trying to compile the zaptel drivers but i keep getting this error depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26/misc/wcusb.o |
01:22.02 | Los | anyone know how to fix it |
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01:23.45 | tessier | hmmm....variables don't seem to be passed into the new included contexts... |
01:24.05 | timecop | heh |
01:24.05 | Los | how do i go about fixing it |
01:24.12 | timecop | so I wake up this morning and asterisk is segfaulted |
01:24.15 | timecop | excellent. |
01:24.42 | Los | <PROTECTED> |
01:24.42 | Los | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26/misc/wcusb.o |
01:24.42 | Los | [ -f /etc/zaptel.conf ] || install -m 644 zaptel.conf.sample /etc/zaptel.conf |
01:24.47 | timecop | ignore it los |
01:24.48 | mitchel_ | anyone in here sell sub 2.5 cent/minute voip->pstn service? |
01:25.09 | Los | timecop ok |
01:25.18 | timecop | unless you need to use wcusb |
01:26.08 | tessier | ah, I see... |
01:26.24 | tessier | mitchel_: Most are around 3 cents. |
01:26.37 | tessier | I may be able to get sub 2.5 soon but I doubt we all want to race to the bottom. |
01:26.37 | mitchel_ | i know, i want less then that though =p |
01:26.49 | tessier | If I get 2.5 I'm gonna keep those .5 cents for myself. |
01:30.15 | nikko | los you can compile PPP into your kernel to get rid of that error. or just ignore it found the exact same problem today |
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01:38.24 | theo | moo guys |
01:38.26 | theo | erp |
01:38.27 | theo | sorry |
01:38.29 | theo | wrong window ;) |
01:38.38 | Supaplex | moo 2 u 2 |
01:53.37 | IOscanner | Has any one played with musiconhold? |
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01:57.55 | Supaplex | what hardware? |
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02:00.42 | IOscanner | just a pc with x100p fxo card |
02:01.29 | IOscanner | it works. When I put a person on hold I can't resume the call. The person will stay on hold forever. |
02:01.50 | Connor_ | using re-invites? |
02:02.03 | IOscanner | I wonder if I have something wrong in my dialplan. |
02:02.10 | IOscanner | I don't think so. |
02:02.37 | Connor_ | you really don't need to do much to get MOH working for hold... |
02:02.54 | IOscanner | It work I just resume the call. |
02:03.21 | Connor_ | what does the dialstring look like for the sip phone? |
02:04.03 | IOscanner | Which one from the extentions.conf or the sip.conf? |
02:04.12 | Connor_ | extensions.conf |
02:04.16 | Supaplex | so far I haven't determined how my quicknet card interfaces with this. any tips what I should look for? Is there a way I can confirm it's recogonized it already? |
02:04.33 | IOscanner | everything works I can make calls etc |
02:04.55 | IOscanner | I can call in and out no problem transfer...etc |
02:05.10 | Connor_ | that's fine.. let me see your dial string.. |
02:06.01 | IOscanner | From where? I have many....sip and zap/1 |
02:06.34 | Connor_ | which ever one your having problems with related to the phone... |
02:07.13 | IOscanner | exten => 120,1,SetMusicOnHold(flam) |
02:07.13 | IOscanner | exten => 120,2,MusicOnHold(30) |
02:07.20 | IOscanner | exten => 120,1,SetMusicOnHold(flam) |
02:07.20 | IOscanner | exten => 120,2,MusicOnHold(30) |
02:07.33 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,1,Playback(transfer,skip) |
02:07.33 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,2,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},25) |
02:07.33 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,3,Answer |
02:07.33 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,4,Wait,1 |
02:07.33 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,5,VoiceMail(u${EXTEN}@default) ; if unavailable |
02:07.34 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,6,Hangup |
02:07.36 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,102,Answer |
02:07.38 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,103,Wait,1 |
02:07.40 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,104,VoiceMail(b${EXTEN}@default) ; if busy |
02:07.42 | IOscanner | exten => _1XX,105,Hangup |
02:07.44 | mitchel_ | ios, use pastebin.com please |
02:07.51 | mitchel_ | and not the chat room |
02:07.56 | IOscanner | sorry... |
02:08.23 | Connor_ | so, what's with the exten => 120,2,MusicOnHold(30) |
02:08.24 | mitchel_ | or whatever the link is |
02:08.40 | IOscanner | testing |
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02:10.05 | IOscanner | I thought this would have been a phone to asterisk issue. I am using a cisco 7960 phone. |
02:11.03 | Connor_ | well, Ijust installed 9 7960's this mornining, and MOH with hold all works.. as does resume.. |
02:13.00 | mitchel_ | gj connor |
02:13.05 | mitchel_ | those are hell to install eh? |
02:13.08 | mitchel_ | i had to do 14 |
02:13.15 | mitchel_ | so many buttons to press just to get it to work =/ |
02:13.37 | Connor_ | Ahh.. dhcp and tftp are your friend. |
02:13.59 | mitchel_ | yes but still you have to set up the ip addresses on it and point it, or i guess not ip addresses since you used dhcp |
02:14.00 | Connor_ | That was also flashing them from 3.0 SSCP something all the way up to 6.3 SIP |
02:14.15 | mitchel_ | i prefer knowing exactly what ip each machine has so i don't use dhcp |
02:14.51 | Connor_ | I still have 1 phone I can't get flashed up.. it keeps putting a Charage return inbetween the file name and the extentsion.. |
02:15.28 | mitchel_ | eh send it my way ;) i'll see what i can do |
02:15.38 | Connor_ | uh hu.. :) |
02:16.01 | IOscanner | 105/105 192.168.109.24 (D) 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
02:16.01 | IOscanner | 104/104 192.168.109.201 (D) 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
02:16.01 | IOscanner | 103/103 192.168.109.23 (D) 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
02:16.01 | IOscanner | 102/102 192.168.109.23 (D) 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
02:16.02 | IOscanner | 101/101 192.168.109.23 (D) 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
02:16.02 | Connor_ | I got a phone with a cisco contract on it... I'll call and open a case.. |
02:16.04 | IOscanner | 100/100 192.168.109.23 (D) 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
02:16.06 | IOscanner | pstngateway/469 216.87.144.203 255.255.255.255 5060 Unmonitored |
02:17.39 | mitchel_ | connor |
02:17.40 | mitchel_ | ! |
02:17.44 | mitchel_ | while your att it |
02:17.57 | mitchel_ | tell them you have a sccp 7970 phone that you need a sip image for and to hurry up and provide you with one |
02:18.04 | Connor_ | ROFL |
02:18.21 | Connor_ | no sip for 7970's ah? |
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02:18.43 | mitchel_ | errr i haven't found any |
02:18.56 | mitchel_ | btw i have a bounty for $20 for anyone that can get me reasonable support for my 7970 working with * |
02:19.11 | mitchel_ | yes thats right, a whole $20! |
02:20.00 | tessier | That's crazy money |
02:20.52 | Connor_ | mitchel, no mention of sip for the 7970 on cisco site. |
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02:21.51 | mitchel_ | i know! |
02:21.53 | mitchel_ | they are evil |
02:21.57 | mitchel_ | anyone want a 7970? |
02:21.59 | Connor_ | that sucks. |
02:22.01 | michaell | ME! |
02:22.02 | mitchel_ | $550! |
02:22.06 | mitchel_ | i'm selling mine |
02:22.10 | michaell | ok you suck |
02:22.12 | michaell | lol |
02:22.17 | michaell | If its not free |
02:22.19 | mitchel_ | what? they are like over $800 everywhere |
02:22.20 | michaell | its useless |
02:22.27 | michaell | not they aren't |
02:22.28 | mitchel_ | michaell, nothing in life is free |
02:22.31 | mitchel_ | except voip calls! |
02:22.34 | michaell | I have seen them cheaper. |
02:22.42 | michaell | like $400 |
02:22.49 | michaell | $500 new |
02:23.09 | mitchel_ | fine $500, you want it? |
02:23.17 | michaell | nope |
02:23.18 | IOscanner | Any idea of when a sip image will be available for the 7970? |
02:23.23 | michaell | Can't afford one currently. |
02:23.51 | mitchel_ | ios: never from ciscos lack of press on it |
02:23.55 | michaell | If you are using cvs-stable please update small timestamp fix was applied. lol small |
02:24.01 | michaell | that was like huge. |
02:24.39 | TerraByte | Wow.. G.729 sure puts some load on ye-olde-processor |
02:24.49 | michaell | yep |
02:24.57 | michaell | dual xeon's! |
02:25.00 | michaell | I wish I had one of them |
02:25.12 | mitchel_ | no you don't |
02:25.15 | mitchel_ | its just a paper weight |
02:25.21 | michaell | Why's that? |
02:25.47 | mitchel_ | no * support so far |
02:25.55 | mitchel_ | or at least i haven't gotten chan_sccp up |
02:26.16 | Connor_ | no the 7970 mitchel_, a dual xeon.. |
02:26.23 | mitchel_ | oh |
02:26.39 | Connor_ | :) |
02:28.35 | XARiUS | I've got a dual 2.8ghz xeon box.. but I just need the 2nd proc! |
02:33.23 | nikko | i wonder how the AMD 64's will do runninglinux and * |
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02:34.33 | pureiax | Hi all |
02:34.48 | pureiax | Anyone here worked with Cdr-MySql-Addon? |
02:35.13 | pureiax | I'm wondering if its structure prevents multiple MYSQL commands from being executed. |
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02:35.51 | pureiax | Anyone here?? |
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02:37.13 | file | kram: oh no, a null pointer! |
02:37.26 | kram | a null pointer indeed |
02:37.35 | twisted | null pointer? |
02:37.38 | twisted | where's a null pointer? |
02:37.45 | file | over... there! |
02:38.00 | twisted | HAY... where'd you go!? |
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02:41.31 | nikko | this channel has about 20 active participants at any one time. what are the other 240 doing? |
02:41.42 | Supaplex | they be dead |
02:41.45 | file | do you really have to ask that? |
02:41.48 | matthewa | watching twisted and bkw get it on? |
02:41.54 | nikko | ha |
02:42.04 | twisted | hahahah |
02:42.08 | twisted | whatever |
02:42.25 | twisted | uhhh |
02:42.41 | file | asterisk said goodbye... too many times a day! |
02:42.50 | twisted | haha |
02:42.52 | twisted | hahahaha |
02:42.53 | file | it's core is dumping in front of me, and I have no choice cause I won't start it anymore |
02:42.58 | twisted | hahahahaha |
02:43.11 | file | I try my best to keep it stable, keep it up and running, so hard to keep it satisfied |
02:43.11 | twisted | MUWHAHAHAHHAHA |
02:43.24 | twisted | you can't stab with a tazer |
02:43.25 | twisted | wtf |
02:43.36 | Supaplex | this one you can :P |
02:43.47 | file | it's the kind that has leads that implant into the skin and continue to deliver electrical shocks |
02:43.50 | twisted | what is it like a 150000 volt eletric carving knife? |
02:44.36 | Supaplex | not really. |
02:44.48 | Supaplex | but, like is relative, so anything is possible. |
02:46.03 | twisted | isn't a supaplex some sort of wrestling move? |
02:46.23 | Supaplex | nawe, old school pc game |
02:46.38 | Supaplex | like 93' or something. |
02:46.42 | twisted | ah |
02:46.46 | twisted | the old ega/cga days |
02:46.53 | Supaplex | the good old days |
02:47.18 | twisted | heh |
02:48.05 | Supaplex | still my fav game :) I have a 386sx16 set aside just for it. |
02:48.14 | twisted | ahhahaha |
02:48.20 | file | creepy |
02:48.53 | Supaplex | it's something else on a 21" montior hehe. they did some work with 16 colors. |
02:49.01 | twisted | hahaha |
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02:57.31 | ManxPower | Apparently I'm the ONLY one that runs -stable with qualify=yes in iax.conf |
02:57.56 | tessier | What does qualify=yes do? |
02:57.59 | *** part/#asterisk seesik (ezra@63.239.126.236) |
02:58.16 | ManxPower | tessier: Shows you the lag between your IAX servers |
02:58.22 | tessier | ah |
02:58.25 | twisted | does more than that |
02:58.27 | JerJer | isn't it qualify=number ? |
02:58.32 | JerJer | like qualify=500 |
02:58.34 | ManxPower | JerJer: It can be. |
02:58.42 | twisted | if your server reaches a certain point it considers it unreachable and won't even attempt to connect to it |
02:58.49 | XARiUS | ew.. budlight... |
02:58.51 | ManxPower | CVS -stable shows ALL IAX peers as having 3 ms of lag |
02:58.53 | twisted | JerJer, you can just use qualify=yes too |
02:59.05 | twisted | ManxPower, yea, that was fixed in head a LONG time ago |
02:59.16 | ManxPower | twisted: Yes, I'm trying to find the patch to backport it. |
02:59.27 | ManxPower | I'm not prepared to upgrade bison on all my Asterisk servers right now. |
02:59.32 | JerJer | yet another reason to run the latest and greatest code |
02:59.34 | ManxPower | (so I can run -head) |
02:59.56 | ManxPower | twisted: I don't suppose you recall the date of the fix? 8-) |
03:00.04 | twisted | ManxPower, not of the top of my head |
03:00.09 | ManxPower | If they are not going to backport bugfixes to -stable they should not have -stable |
03:00.09 | twisted | but it's in the cvs mailing list somewhere i'm sure :) |
03:00.12 | Moc__ | cvs-head should be moved to cvs-stable ;) |
03:00.23 | ManxPower | twisted: *nod* I'm looking for it |
03:00.34 | JerJer | -stable is a point in time reference |
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03:00.53 | JerJer | eventually -head will be retagged to some other name and it will be the time reference |
03:00.59 | Moc__ | I know, but it hard for you guys to apply fix for head AND stable at the same time |
03:02.11 | ManxPower | twisted: You were the one to file the qualify= bug report? |
03:02.31 | theo | i've become muchly impressed with subverison recently |
03:03.16 | tessier | May 21 19:13:41 WARNING[1105087408]: pbx.c:1802 ast_pbx_run: Channel 'SIP/invitationfactory.104-de1e' sent into invalid extension 's' in context 'default', but no invalid handler |
03:03.52 | JerJer | sounds like a config file problem |
03:03.52 | twisted | tessier, because you're sending them to s, which has no extension defined in default or any included context |
03:04.28 | ManxPower | Looks like this is it |
03:04.31 | ManxPower | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-cvs/2004-April/001703.html |
03:04.34 | tessier | Yeah...I wonder how I'm doing that though. |
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03:05.57 | twisted | misconfiguration :p |
03:06.03 | brc007 | hey anyone seen phpwhat's her name around lately? |
03:06.11 | brc007 | ~seen phpkathy |
03:06.12 | jbot | i haven't seen 'phpkathy', brc007 |
03:06.15 | twisted | hah |
03:06.28 | brc007 | ~seen phpbarbie |
03:06.29 | jbot | i haven't seen 'phpbarbie', brc007 |
03:06.54 | twisted | ~seen phpken |
03:06.55 | jbot | i haven't seen 'phpken', twisted |
03:07.44 | PilotPTK-Home | now now... barbie doesn't go with ken...you see, Ken always comes (sp) in a different box |
03:07.46 | PilotPTK-Home | :) |
03:07.52 | twisted | hahahaha |
03:08.10 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | :P |
03:08.14 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | hi ja pilot |
03:08.18 | pureiax | bkw_: How much slower is using the cdr odbc driver than using the cdr_mysql driver directly?? |
03:08.19 | PilotPTK-Home | yo |
03:08.19 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | howzitgoen |
03:08.34 | PilotPTK-Home | lots and lots of rain and thunder and lightning.... |
03:08.35 | twisted | wow... someone has too much free time... |
03:08.47 | PilotPTK-Home | i'm amazed i still have power and internet at home |
03:08.53 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | twisted: who? |
03:08.58 | twisted | XHTML10Scrt_brc, YOU |
03:09.09 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | ME? |
03:09.12 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | nawwww! |
03:09.13 | twisted | yeah |
03:09.14 | twisted | yep |
03:09.17 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | why |
03:09.22 | twisted | look at your nick |
03:09.25 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | hahah |
03:09.27 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | oh comon |
03:09.33 | twisted | comon what? |
03:09.37 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | it's FUN to code xhtml1.0strict by hand! |
03:10.02 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | whatchya mean zactly? |
03:10.11 | PilotPTK-Home | well gentlemen...ya'll have a good night.. I'm going to meet the g/f (and yes, I have my digicam to take a pic of her and I twisted) |
03:10.13 | PilotPTK-Home | :) |
03:10.18 | PilotPTK-Home | take care |
03:10.24 | twisted | PilotPTK-Home, i'll be waiting :P |
03:10.24 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | ooo |
03:10.26 | twisted | hehe |
03:10.30 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | twisted goen? |
03:10.30 | Supaplex | my mistake, I thought someone beat you with an uglyification stick and you are the result! |
03:10.35 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | didn't know ya lived near him |
03:10.39 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | er |
03:10.40 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | damnit |
03:10.44 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | read boi READ |
03:10.45 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | bwhahaha |
03:11.10 | twisted | uglification? is that a word? |
03:11.14 | Supaplex | my irc client isn't xhtml complaint, maybe that's why I can't ;) |
03:11.17 | twisted | uglyfication, that is |
03:11.44 | Supaplex | <<-- can't spell, don't care most days |
03:12.02 | PilotPTK-Home | actually, IF it were a word - i think it would be spelled perfectly. |
03:12.13 | twisted | yeah, but i don't think there is an antonym for beautification |
03:12.15 | PilotPTK-Home | oh...never mind |
03:12.39 | PilotPTK-Home | perhapps debeautifucation |
03:12.43 | twisted | hahha |
03:12.44 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=uglification&r=67 |
03:12.50 | PilotPTK-Home | twistedized? |
03:12.56 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | ug·li·fy Audio pronunciation of "uglification" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gl-f) |
03:12.56 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | tr.v. ug·li·fied, ug·li·fy·ing, ug·li·fies |
03:12.56 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | <PROTECTED> |
03:13.02 | Supaplex | hahaaa |
03:13.05 | twisted | well holy shit |
03:13.09 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | M-W doesn't have it tho |
03:13.12 | twisted | i spelled it correctly the first time |
03:13.21 | twisted | Supaplex spelled it wrong |
03:13.25 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | oh WAIT |
03:13.25 | twisted | hahahahah |
03:13.27 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | they do! hahahah |
03:13.28 | XHTML10Scrt_brc | http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=uglification&x=20&y=17 |
03:13.40 | pureiax | How many simultaneous calls can an Asterisk server support? Assuming Pentium 4, 2.4ghz and all calls come in G711 (IAX) and exit G711 (SIP) ? |
03:14.08 | twisted | pureiax, good question. considering you're not transcoding, probally a lot |
03:14.12 | PilotPTK-Home | probably a lot since no transcoding is going on...it's a pretty simple switch from iax to sip from a processing standpoint |
03:14.33 | twisted | PilotPTK-Home, stop reading my mind, damnit |
03:14.36 | PilotPTK-Home | maybe 4 to 5 hundred (which will also be adjusted by calls per second/minute/whatever) |
03:15.11 | ReniRmx | i wonder how much bandwidth you would need for that |
03:15.23 | twisted | a lot |
03:15.40 | twisted | a WHOLE FUCKING lot |
03:15.41 | PilotPTK-Home | 400 * 80 = 32000kbps |
03:15.50 | PilotPTK-Home | = 32mbps |
03:15.58 | PilotPTK-Home | roughly |
03:16.15 | twisted | oh you wanna play that game.. |
03:16.17 | ReniRmx | ha.. so you would probably run out of bandwidth first? |
03:16.27 | PilotPTK-Home | not if you were sitting on a ds3 |
03:16.30 | XHTML-twistedize | 32MBPS != awfl |
03:16.39 | PilotPTK-Home | which a provider probably is |
03:16.45 | JerJer | i see someone is guessing |
03:16.53 | XHTML-twistedize | haha |
03:16.58 | JerJer | must you forget about operating system limits |
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03:17.10 | XHTML-twistedize | damnit twisted |
03:17.14 | XHTML-twistedize | hahah |
03:17.16 | ReniRmx | haha |
03:17.20 | ReniRmx | rewt |
03:17.31 | pureiax | JerJer: What limits? |
03:17.50 | JerJer | a little thing called file descriptors |
03:17.53 | twisted | haha |
03:17.54 | twisted | oh yea |
03:17.55 | ReniRmx | amount of open files at one time |
03:19.09 | pureiax | Well, Linux is pretty robust. How much does it do? |
03:19.48 | ManxPower | pureiax: 1024, but there can be up to 4 fds in use per call |
03:20.06 | JerJer | 4? |
03:20.11 | JerJer | someone hasn't used H.323 |
03:20.37 | pureiax | And also, does anyone know whether it is really true that Asterisk code/codecs will run MUCH MUCH better on Intel hardware, and furthermore P4 HT > P4 > Celeron |
03:20.59 | XARiUS | hey JerJer, how much is your termination? I was asking about it in the room because I couldn't find any pricing on your website |
03:21.09 | debaser | pureiax: i don't think i 've ever heard that one |
03:21.11 | JerJer | there is no pricing on our website |
03:21.11 | XARiUS | was gonna try it out in place of my home phone for awhile |
03:21.15 | XARiUS | so I noticed =) |
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03:21.42 | Supaplex | jbot, botsnack |
03:21.42 | jbot | Supaplex: :) |
03:22.09 | PilotPTK-Home | The number of max file descriptors can be increased to roughly 3000, however |
03:22.28 | Supaplex | that's what proc is for... |
03:22.33 | pureiax | Xarius, here you can try out my test VOIP termination server right now. I'll give you a username and pwd (try it for free, but short calls to USA/CAN, ok?) |
03:22.52 | JerJer | some people have no shame |
03:23.00 | pureiax | Really PilotPTK-Home How do you do that?? |
03:23.07 | JerJer | man ulimit |
03:23.09 | pureiax | JerJer: What?? |
03:23.23 | debaser | JerJer: he won't let me call iraq via inmarsat. =[ |
03:23.28 | theo | PilotPTK-Home: 3000? |
03:23.32 | pureiax | JerJer: Stop raining on my parade |
03:23.37 | theo | 100000+ in 2.4 |
03:23.56 | theo | (depending on available memory in system) |
03:23.58 | pureiax | theo: Is that with modifications? |
03:24.00 | PilotPTK-Home | perhapps you're right theo, i seemed to remember an issue when icreasing past 3000 |
03:24.00 | XARiUS | sure pure, looking for a more permanant solution,but if it needs testing, I'll test it. =) |
03:24.14 | pureiax | Ok Xarius, hang on.... |
03:24.18 | theo | PilotPTK-Home: yup - glibc sarts to barf :) |
03:24.23 | pureiax | Whisper me in private chat |
03:25.17 | scratchrf | why when I call an extension on wcusb it rings/shows caller id but all I hear when I pick up is distorted ringing from phone that's calling me? |
03:25.45 | scratchrf | also, * does nothing when I take the phone offhook? |
03:25.49 | theo | pureiax: iirc glibc is the hardest bit, kernel is just __FDxxxxx (can't remember the xxxbit) - althoguh i think 2.6 has it somewhere in /proc |
03:26.06 | pureiax | Oh thanks theo! |
03:26.11 | theo | google should tell you |
03:26.36 | theo | anyone using an operating system as an exuse for poor performace should be shot |
03:27.17 | PilotPTK-Home | ~google Increase File Descriptors Linux |
03:27.28 | debaser | i could really go for a pizza right about now. |
03:27.36 | theo | /proc/sys/fs/file-max for system wide descriptors |
03:27.55 | mishehu | ~theanswer PilotPTK-Home |
03:27.57 | jbot | PilotPTK-Home: 42 |
03:28.31 | theo | actually, it seems like glibc is also ok lookign at code here |
03:29.17 | PilotPTK-Home | Thank you Mr. Adams. |
03:30.04 | theo | Open: 32764 |
03:30.22 | theo | i can get 32764 open without any tweakign on 2.6 using just ulimit |
03:31.13 | theo | poll() probably handle it better |
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03:32.29 | pureiax | Thanks everyone!! Hopefully I'll be able to setup a really great IAX termination server that everyone can use affordably!! |
03:33.52 | PilotPTK-Home | Time to run.. Night all. |
03:34.24 | pureiax | Goodnight Pilot! |
03:34.33 | JerJer | so he infers that other providers are expensive |
03:34.34 | JerJer | interesting |
03:34.47 | pureiax | JerJer: Would you please give me a break????? |
03:34.54 | JerJer | why should i? |
03:35.01 | Moc__ | bkw_, * still segment fault on kernel 2.6 on bad chan_zap config |
03:35.10 | JerJer | what have you done for asterisk lately? |
03:35.13 | pureiax | JerJer: I set this all up because YOU blew me off when I needed termination. So reap now..... |
03:35.20 | PilotPTK-Home | in the words of a great man i know - why shouldn't you? |
03:35.24 | pureiax | I was all set to go with nufone |
03:35.27 | JerJer | bullshit |
03:35.40 | Moc__ | not that conversation ... |
03:35.53 | pureiax | Then you stopped returning my calls ...... etc etc etc |
03:35.59 | debaser | lets go red sox! |
03:36.08 | JerJer | whatever |
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03:36.26 | Moc__ | look... pureiax your on a bad start... Jerjer provided SO MUCH support for *... just dont piss him off, it like pissing us all !!! |
03:36.26 | ManxPower | more providers better |
03:36.29 | Moc__ | off |
03:36.44 | file | what is it, crappy attitude day? |
03:36.49 | theo | file: think so |
03:36.56 | debaser | yeah =[ |
03:36.57 | file | apparently |
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03:37.03 | Moc__ | yea no problem with compition... just it need to stay competition ... have fun with it !!! |
03:37.11 | debaser | i went overboard on an admin today and feel kinda bad about it now |
03:37.13 | _Eagle_ | damn.. what did i miss? |
03:37.19 | theo | people take thinks far to seriously :) |
03:37.27 | pureiax | When we launch, we return everyone's calls. Just look on the asterisk mailing list about what people said about Nufone's customer server (lack thereof). |
03:37.39 | ManxPower | JerJer has done more for Asterisk than any ITSP I can think of. |
03:38.08 | ManxPower | pureiax: People complain about ALL the ITSPs out there. Nufone is no worse than any of the others. |
03:38.33 | debaser | why do people always complain about voice service? |
03:38.42 | Moc__ | yea nufone doesn't have 514 DID, I complain about it to him ;) but hey his service is excelent |
03:38.46 | PilotPTK-Home | No-one is knocking JerJer's contributions to asterisk that I can see. Not everyone can donate to the code-base, however. Providing another option for the users of * seems like a perfectly good donation to the cause. |
03:39.07 | JerJer | i like how people bitch about our customer service, yet I never hear anything about our uptime |
03:39.29 | debaser | it always seems like whenever voice communication is involved a sizably statistically higher group of people are out there talking shit |
03:39.36 | JerJer | PilotPTK-Work: stabbing DIgium in the back is not a good thing |
03:39.52 | pureiax | Well, all I can say is that it is a bit insulting when someone doesn't return your calls or answer your emails. I have most postgraduate education than he can count... |
03:40.03 | Moc__ | JerJer, hey not hearing about it is a good sign ;) |
03:40.24 | michaell | if I want to record a ccall what command would I use? |
03:40.30 | XARiUS | JerJer: I have to reboot our production servers once a month in the middle of the day just so our customers don't get too used to *never* going down.. lol |
03:40.33 | JerJer | show application monitor |
03:40.38 | Moc__ | Like our Internet access at work, we practicly dont who where/who it from, since it work so great ;) |
03:40.46 | XARiUS | that way they don't spaz out when something does go wrong =) |
03:41.00 | JerJer | build your system so it cant go down |
03:41.05 | XARiUS | it is =) |
03:41.10 | XARiUS | nothing's perfect tho.. hehe |
03:41.30 | ManxPower | I went with VoicePulse today. Not because of their price (it's not significantly different from other ITSPs), not because of their customer service (not different from other ITSPs), not because of their relability (they are less reliable than some ITSPs), but because they had DIDs in the area code I needed and other ITSPs didn't. |
03:41.32 | XARiUS | it's usually bad routing somewhere, we host a lot of daytraders. |
03:41.39 | XARiUS | man they are highstrung people. |
03:42.18 | ManxPower | XARiUS: Real Estate people are pretty bad too. |
03:42.33 | JerJer | kram: 35,000 calls thru chan_h323 |
03:42.34 | ManxPower | kram: http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001694 (updated info) |
03:43.01 | ManxPower | kram: http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001699 (minor but annoying bug) |
03:43.01 | Moc__ | JerJer, using your new chan_h323 ? |
03:43.10 | JerJer | cvs -head |
03:43.16 | tessier | If two SIP phones are trying to setup a session and one has canreinvite=no and the other has canreinvite=yes does that mean neither one goes direct or does it mean one goes through the proxy and the other one does not? |
03:43.40 | JerJer | heh |
03:43.41 | JerJer | no |
03:44.43 | _Eagle_ | sorry, i just gotta ask this... pureiax... what does your postgraduate work have to do with whether jer calls you back or not? |
03:45.07 | PilotPTK-Home | tessier; if BOTH endpoints can not re-invite, then neither will. |
03:45.11 | tessier | _Eagle_: He needs some hot phone sex so he can be relaxed and can study harder for his finals. |
03:45.12 | pureiax | _Eagle_ It's not like I'm so kind of idiot not worthy of a callback. |
03:45.18 | JerJer | contrary to popular believe NuFone is not just me |
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03:45.45 | _Eagle_ | pureiax: oh, and people who dont have postgraduate degrees are idiots? |
03:45.46 | tessier | PilotPTK-Home: That's what I would have thought...but I just tried it with one phone =no and the other =yes (both behind nat) and it didn't work. |
03:45.53 | tessier | Both behind different nats, that is. |
03:45.58 | JerJer | i dropped out of college, and proud of it |
03:46.05 | pureiax | At the very least call back and say you can't talk for the next couple of days.... |
03:46.08 | tessier | hmm...actually that would mean neither could go direct anyhow...so I guess that makes sense. |
03:46.17 | Moc__ | I passed, but shoudln't have... look at my english.. my french is worst ;) |
03:46.27 | JerJer | pureiax: proove it... what's your trouble ticket number? |
03:46.29 | tessier | My inglish ain't so bad. |
03:46.31 | ManxPower | pureiax: Think of the good things that came of it. You are now becoming an IAX provider. |
03:47.27 | ManxPower | pureiax: The long hours the constantly complaining customers with unrealistic unexpectations being dirt poor! All the great things about starting a new business! |
03:47.29 | Moc__ | pureiax, you better disapear, change name and come back with a new attitude, one that doesn't try to attack nufone like the other day |
03:47.35 | ManxPower | Me? Bitter? Not at all. |
03:48.16 | Moc__ | I might start a IAX provider, but Jerjer gonna be my best friend ;) |
03:48.25 | _Eagle_ | i just love when people think college degrees and post graduate degrees make them a better person than the rest of us... it shows their true ignorance... kinda like a 14 yr old trying to act like an adult and trying too hard |
03:48.52 | ManxPower | Moc: One would assume it is useful to stay friendly with other providers so you can borrow capacity when needed. |
03:48.56 | Moc__ | _Eagle_, I work in a law firm... Imagine ... ;) |
03:49.07 | pureiax | JerJer: I didn't realize calling you on the phone and leaving numerous messages generated email support tickets. Wow, you really are advanced. |
03:49.32 | Moc__ | Look I see Buisness like GPL... we need to share ressources, if 1 is in trouble, the other should help if ask |
03:49.45 | JerJer | interesting...my newest employee just setup Voicemail on our corp-pbx just the other day |
03:50.01 | ManxPower | Moc: Well for a fee, of course. |
03:50.19 | JerJer | so how could one leave messages if app_voicemail.so was noloaded? |
03:50.28 | PilotPTK-Home | interesting, since when greg is unavailable to answer the phone, i've been presented with a 'Please leave a message' prompt on many occasions - well before a few days ago. |
03:50.28 | XARiUS | hm thats two providers using michigan numbers.. whats the deal with a lot of sip providers having only michigan numbers? |
03:50.32 | Moc__ | the idea is to offer a good service, and make a living out of it |
03:50.43 | XARiUS | sipphone.com is here in san diego, I actually know a few guys there.. |
03:51.06 | JerJer | PilotPTK-Home: maybe a week |
03:51.11 | Moc__ | ManxPower, well always depend of the situation, but I'll think more of service exchange instead |
03:51.26 | JerJer | or if you call gregs own extension, maybe |
03:51.54 | PilotPTK-Home | perhapps that was the case. I don't remember what I dialed. it really was some time ago. |
03:52.01 | dov | business must be goig well if you can spare time to argue this bs on irc, JerJer ;-) |
03:52.03 | _Eagle_ | xarius: a lot of asterisk people live in michigan... a scary number actually |
03:52.26 | PilotPTK-Home | I just remember leaving a message on the Nufone pbx. Which, I must say, he promptly returned. |
03:52.28 | XARiUS | yeah but I just noticed sipphone.com only has michigan numbers as well. |
03:52.29 | Moc__ | Look I would go in VoIP for.. first .. Fun, second offer a good service, and third make a living. |
03:52.34 | pureiax | Anyways, I apologize to all to get the channel WAY OFF TOPIC. The point is that I'll be offering 1.9 cents a minute retail (no volume) for USA and Canada and I look forward to my competitors meeting me at the price point. |
03:52.37 | JerJer | PilotPTK-Work: then it was his own voicemail |
03:52.45 | XARiUS | was just wondering if there was some sorta portability or *cheapness* to michigan numbers or something |
03:53.23 | ManxPower | XARiUS: Maybe they all just use Nufone. LOL! |
03:53.31 | XARiUS | lol hey that could be |
03:53.40 | XARiUS | a girl I know here keeps the books for sipphone |
03:53.40 | PilotPTK-Home | Michigan IS home to some relatively reasonable telcom pricing, although not hugely better than any other place from what i've seen. |
03:53.44 | Moc__ | pureiax, that better.. now you got canadian DID ?? |
03:53.47 | XARiUS | I'll just ask her what the deal is hehe |
03:54.35 | pureiax | Moc__ DIDs will come later... |
03:54.51 | Moc__ | it the only thing im missing |
03:54.56 | PilotPTK-Home | alright...i'm not 30 minutes late :) this channels is addicting :) have a good night everyone. |
03:54.59 | _Eagle_ | xarius: most of those michigan numbers are probably with 1 of 2 clec's here too |
03:55.01 | PilotPTK-Home | s/not/now |
03:55.14 | PilotPTK-Home | s/channels/channel |
03:55.18 | _Eagle_ | xarius: michigan has a lot of asterisk users, and some of the best telecom people |
03:55.20 | Moc__ | JerJer, you were beable to get better deal for canada 1800 or it wont change for a while ? |
03:55.22 | _Eagle_ | and a LOT of clec's |
03:55.50 | YoYo | michigan is overrated |
03:55.55 | Moc__ | hehe |
03:55.57 | YoYo | so is that Nick guy |
03:56.32 | _Eagle_ | i hate that nick guy |
03:56.37 | _Eagle_ | he's a pain in the ass |
03:56.51 | pureiax | In theory I can offer DIDs in 10 states for about 1.5 cents, but I have no idea how that will make any money. Why not just get a 1800 for a little more?? |
03:56.51 | YoYo | ya, always whining and complaining about how the world should be his on a silver platter |
03:56.52 | YoYo | =D |
03:57.27 | ManxPower | pureiax: DIDs are flat rate from most providers |
03:57.29 | Moc__ | not all 1800 work in canada |
03:57.38 | YoYo | pureiax: sell DID unlimited for $8-10/month |
03:57.48 | _Eagle_ | pureiax: you cant charge per minute for inbound on local DID's |
03:57.51 | _Eagle_ | no one will pay it |
03:58.04 | JerJer | huh? |
03:58.11 | JerJer | 1.5 cents ?! |
03:58.23 | pureiax | A DID for $8 a month with unlimited incoming? How is that possible? I can't even afford that... |
03:58.25 | YoYo | for example, if you have a company in Cleveland with a ton of customers in Chicago, sell them an unlimited Chicago DID |
03:58.33 | Moc__ | let make #asterisk-provider |
03:58.35 | YoYo | that will drastically cut down on their expenses |
03:58.35 | JerJer | we can do $7.50 a month unltimited on DIDs |
03:58.39 | JerJer | all day long |
03:58.50 | ManxPower | pureiax: VoicePulse does it. |
03:58.56 | YoYo | pureiax: how much for a PRI? |
03:58.58 | _Eagle_ | if you're paying for inbound calls, you have no clue what you're doing |
03:59.03 | JerJer | _Eagle_: really |
03:59.25 | Moc__ | damn JerJer buy TelUs/Bell canada or what ever.. but come to canada ;) |
03:59.29 | SwK | how do they do it, its easy... anyone listed as a CLEC gets to charge anyone delivering calls to their network a few cents percall |
03:59.38 | matthewa | Telus-- |
03:59.38 | YoYo | my dialup users already pay for that PRI, but if I sell DIDs to businesses, then I can make that much more |
03:59.40 | Moc__ | YoYo for 23 channel ? |
03:59.42 | ManxPower | Well outbound LD is usually direct to an IXC. Inbound DID is usually with a [C|[I]LEC. Totally different |
03:59.45 | YoYo | Moc: 23 or 24 |
03:59.46 | SwK | and telus is ass |
03:59.56 | pureiax | Ummmm.... you might be able to do that for one area code, but no way for 1/3rd of the USA (which is what I am talking about). Impossible, trust me. |
04:00.09 | JerJer | funny |
04:00.15 | YoYo | I terminate on a DS3, which enables me to run up to 20 PRI per B channel |
04:00.38 | tessier | The s context thing I mentioned earlier was because I didn't have the voicemail boxes setup for the user and my stdexten macro sends calls to voicemail. |
04:00.40 | JerJer | when we launch them all of our DIDs (including non-michigan did's) will be $7.50 a month |
04:00.57 | ManxPower | JerJer: When WILL that be anyway? |
04:01.12 | tessier | The reason they were being sent to voicemail is because they were trying to reinvite but were behind nat |
04:01.15 | pureiax | Ok, so there, JerJer has something I don't. See, I admit it. I hope this helps end hostilities.... |
04:01.27 | matthewa | but it was getting amusing! |
04:01.28 | pureiax | If you want DIDs: Nufone |
04:01.31 | ManxPower | "Can't we all just get a bong?" |
04:01.43 | JerJer | pureiax: you attacked me |
04:01.45 | tessier | Where can nufone get dids for? |
04:02.04 | YoYo | tessier: I'm on the list for a Mars DID |
04:02.05 | JerJer | michigan and out-state Illonis |
04:02.06 | ManxPower | tessier: Anywhere as long as it's in Michigan |
04:02.07 | pureiax | JerJer: Scroll up. I didn't mention your name until you barged in and commented on my service. |
04:02.07 | _Eagle_ | pureiax: maybe you need to investigate this industry a little more before you start offering services |
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04:02.24 | YoYo | I would be on the Saturn list, but Jer hasn't opened that one up yet |
04:02.35 | tessier | hehe |
04:03.06 | _Eagle_ | pureiax: hint... look into what ISP's do... then you'll understand DID's |
04:03.28 | YoYo | ISPs are overrated |
04:03.34 | YoYo | they all need to die |
04:03.40 | ManxPower | kram: I'm afraid to run CVS. All my outbound stopped working when I did that this evening (but I didn't try it without the "g" option to Dial() |
04:03.49 | YoYo | we dun need no stinking internet access. all we need is AOL |
04:03.59 | JerJer | Prodigy |
04:04.03 | YoYo | that too! |
04:04.05 | ManxPower | YoYo is drunk again. |
04:04.08 | YoYo | LOL |
04:04.09 | YoYo | nope |
04:04.11 | _Eagle_ | yoyo: yeah, but all that knowledge i racked up seems to be worth more than post graduate degrees are worth to pureiax right now :-) |
04:04.13 | tessier | "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!" |
04:04.26 | YoYo | Eagle: ya, you and your 39 customers =D |
04:04.36 | JerJer | Hell i just lit up a PM3 the other day, just cuz i can |
04:04.46 | _Eagle_ | hey... i have 37 customers... 2 quit last week |
04:04.51 | YoYo | oh, ok |
04:05.05 | pureiax | _Eagle_: Don't know degrees... the economy is going south |
04:05.26 | YoYo | down to like 2950 retail from a peak of 3150 |
04:05.40 | JerJer | i prolly pissed off at least 4 customers |
04:05.44 | JerJer | 2 for sure |
04:05.49 | YoYo | but hopefully, free accelleration will help build things back up come fall |
04:05.54 | ManxPower | Bah! I was cured of the desire to start my own telecom or ISP company about 5 years ago. |
04:06.18 | YoYo | Manx: depending on your area, 5 years ago would have been perfect to start an ISP |
04:06.29 | ManxPower | YoYo: Yes, I know. |
04:06.33 | _Eagle_ | or a clec too |
04:06.53 | _Eagle_ | if i knew what i know now 5 years ago, i would have started a clec then |
04:06.56 | pureiax | Yeah, I'm not sure why.... |
04:06.57 | ManxPower | YoYo: three failed companies cured me of the desire. |
04:07.11 | pureiax | 2.9 cents is a bit ridiculous, it's like more than twice cost |
04:07.17 | YoYo | Manx: uhm... when 9 out of 10 companies fail, 3 isn't a very good place to stop |
04:07.31 | YoYo | you gotta learn from the failures and keep on trying until you make it |
04:07.41 | YoYo | unless, of course, you're happy being in the rat race |
04:07.43 | ManxPower | The last one got $2 million in financing (for a small city ISP) a couple of days after I quit and they still failed. |
04:07.44 | JerJer | 2.9 is our retail cost |
04:07.44 | _Eagle_ | pureiax: guess you've never heard of "profit"... its the reason businesses exist in the first place |
04:08.10 | ManxPower | YoYo: I'm a small time independent consultant. Making more money than I did as an underfunded startup and without the stress. |
04:08.12 | JerJer | we do also offer wholesale for those who can justify it |
04:08.13 | pureiax | Eagle, I guess you never heard of fat cats.... |
04:08.27 | YoYo | pureiax, ever hear of quantity discount? |
04:08.27 | matthewa | darren enwhistle-- |
04:08.43 | Moc__ | Ive checked today, and our office (MTL) does 2600$ of Canada long distance per month. I wonder if we put a * in every region how much we would save nationally |
04:09.27 | YoYo | er... well, maybe not 10,000.. more like 50-100k minutes |
04:09.31 | _Eagle_ | pureiax: so either you're a liberal tree hugging hippie communist, or you're starting a charity (non-profit company), or you're just plain stupid... pick 2 of the 3 :-) |
04:09.45 | YoYo | but, I barely break 6000 minutes/month, so it's not even worht talking about |
04:10.02 | YoYo | pureiax: you ever eat a Big Mac? |
04:10.03 | SwK | with nuphone that is heh |
04:10.06 | Moc__ | we do 60000min at work (just MTL office) and we only get 5cent/min CND for Canada/US |
04:10.17 | YoYo | in 1987, they cost .78 to make, and sold for $1.79 |
04:10.35 | YoYo | been a while since I worked at a McD's |
04:10.52 | SwK | Moc__: so why dont you rent a spot in the states and keep your calls "on net" til they are states side and then deliver them |
04:10.54 | Moc__ | dont talk about food guys... !! Damn it too late, stomac make noise |
04:11.08 | YoYo | haha |
04:11.09 | JerJer | i'm gnawing on lunch pizza |
04:11.35 | Moc__ | SwK, US calls are limited... Canada call are larger, but it 60k minutes/month for 1 office... and we are over charged.. |
04:11.53 | _Eagle_ | just because you can sell a product cheaper than someone else doesn't mean you always should... charge what the market will bear in your area... |
04:11.58 | SwK | you must have telus too |
04:12.00 | _Eagle_ | thats business 101 |
04:12.03 | YoYo | moc: yeah, but .05 CDN is like .0000001 USD |
04:12.04 | Moc__ | JerJer offer a solution to the toronto office... they would look at it im sure, save maybe 2500$ per month |
04:12.25 | Moc__ | YoYo, it about 0.045 or something US |
04:12.30 | YoYo | heh, I know |
04:12.32 | pureiax | Goodnight all... JerJer: I don't doubt you'll be a bigger player than me, but rest assured I'll have my place in the IAX termination market. So let's happily leave it at that. Ok? |
04:12.33 | JerJer | our Candian LD rate is pretty cheap ... at least in USD |
04:12.44 | Moc__ | well nufone is 2.01cent/US for canada |
04:12.53 | Moc__ | and charge to the 15/second I think |
04:12.54 | JerJer | retail |
04:13.00 | JerJer | yep |
04:13.04 | JerJer | 15 |
04:13.14 | SwK | I had to deal with telus on a T1 from the states to Ontario once and I'm pretty sure there was broken glass bits int he KY they used |
04:13.17 | Moc__ | yea retail, so at 60k/min month just for 1 office, then it still a big difference |
04:13.19 | YoYo | quarter minute? wow, what a ripoff. need 6 second increments at least! |
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04:13.35 | JerJer | YoYo^: good luck |
04:13.42 | Moc__ | OR put * box in every office (got office in every big city) and use those instead |
04:13.46 | YoYo | but .04/minute |
04:13.56 | JerJer | :) |
04:14.16 | SwK | Moc__ are your PBXs netowrked at all or all standalone? |
04:14.17 | Moc__ | our 3 T1 with bell were at 5.5 cent, the moved it to 5cent when I called last week |
04:14.25 | Moc__ | standalone |
04:14.37 | ManxPower | Moc: What kind of data network do you have between officeS? |
04:14.40 | Moc__ | we used to have trunk between MTL/QBC but costed less do long distance |
04:14.53 | JerJer | just light up a fiber loop |
04:14.53 | Moc__ | MTL/TOR 100mbits, and every other region is 10mbits |
04:15.18 | _Eagle_ | mmmmmm fiber |
04:15.22 | Moc__ | yea fiber |
04:15.23 | ManxPower | Moc: I was more interested in the technology. Frame, ATM, point-to-point, etc |
04:15.26 | mishehu | a fibre a day keeps the laggies away |
04:15.37 | Moc__ | ManxPower, they call it Lan Extension |
04:15.40 | denon | fiber != fiber |
04:15.42 | denon | er |
04:15.43 | mishehu | I'll take a fibre feed from the CO... |
04:15.44 | denon | fiber != fibre |
04:15.53 | JerJer | smells like ATM / MPLS |
04:15.59 | ManxPower | Moc: Ah. So they hand you an Ethernet connection? |
04:16.00 | Moc__ | de la fibre optic... it the same |
04:16.12 | denon | fibre == fibre channel, fiber == fiber optics. :) |
04:16.13 | Moc__ | yes I guess |
04:16.16 | ManxPower | Moc: Well if you can do QoS put some asterisk boxes in and go for it 8-) |
04:16.22 | _Eagle_ | jer: any idea what it costs to run aerial fiber in michigan? |
04:16.26 | Moc__ | sure I could.. |
04:16.28 | denon | brb |
04:16.37 | ManxPower | You might not even need QoS |
04:16.43 | JerJer | _Eagle_: john knows |
04:16.55 | ManxPower | Our interoffice links are 384K. We need QoS |
04:16.57 | Moc__ | well it cisco routers in all office, so let put it |
04:17.27 | Moc__ | but they would ratter go with a Nufone solution than multi * solution |
04:17.29 | _Eagle_ | yeah, i should ask him |
04:17.42 | _Eagle_ | ill shoot him off an email |
04:17.48 | JerJer | i let him deal with the messy details like that |
04:18.39 | JerJer | wireless not an option? |
04:18.47 | JerJer | go with like 18ghz licensed |
04:19.25 | JerJer | will cost a truckload to get going, but then there is no monthly-recurring |
04:19.31 | Moc__ | yea how is voIP over 802.11g ? |
04:19.42 | JerJer | it can work |
04:19.48 | JerJer | oh g |
04:19.51 | JerJer | it better work |
04:20.53 | Moc__ | ok, looking at different solutions for my friend buisness also, he probably have clear sight of view between server room and work office, so wireless is an option instead of installing a DSL + voice line there |
04:21.47 | JerJer | too bad 5.8ghz gear is soo much more |
04:22.06 | JerJer | i'd install very directional antennas (like 24dbi grids) |
04:22.12 | JerJer | on 2.4ghz |
04:22.15 | JerJer | an NO amps! |
04:22.19 | JerJer | and |
04:22.42 | SwK | and a microwave over rigged to work with the door open right in the middle |
04:22.57 | JerJer | hence very directional |
04:23.06 | mishehu | 2 minutes on high, and you're done! *ding* |
04:23.39 | Moc__ | that probably what we are going to do.. does glass cut alot of signal ? |
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04:23.49 | JerJer | depends on the glass |
04:23.56 | JerJer | u should get it outside at all cost |
04:24.00 | Legend` | the glass is half full |
04:24.26 | JerJer | 3/4 empty |
04:24.43 | Moc__ | yea, I'll get the gear and test it inside and see to move it outside if not |
04:24.58 | _Eagle_ | ive heard people throw out numbers from $4,000/mile to $40,000/mile for fiber |
04:25.06 | JerJer | naa |
04:25.22 | sung | well |
04:25.29 | mishehu | give me fiber or give me a slow, painful, ip death? |
04:25.30 | sung | don't try to dig your own fiber |
04:25.35 | _Eagle_ | well, including the fiber, splicing, permits, labor, pole attachment fees, etc |
04:25.38 | sung | it's expensive, etc. |
04:25.38 | JerJer | a loop from southfield to chicago was like $20,000 for 20 years |
04:25.51 | sung | stick to using other carriers that an give you a piece of their oc192 |
04:25.54 | Moc__ | dark fiber is 1100$ CND/month |
04:26.02 | JerJer | yeah go with dim fiber |
04:26.23 | JerJer | hell get onto the Detroit MAN and buy PVCs |
04:26.25 | Moc__ | wireless it 1 cost of about the same price for everything (ok dont have gigabit link but who care) |
04:26.34 | mishehu | or get a nibbler and it can poop dark matter for you. |
04:28.40 | _Eagle_ | well dark fiber is great if its already installed between the 2 locations you need to connect |
04:28.57 | _Eagle_ | but if 1 or both locations arent connected to fiber, then you need to install it yourself |
04:29.08 | JerJer | you just loop to where u need to then |
04:29.12 | _Eagle_ | at least to a splice point |
04:29.18 | _Eagle_ | yeah |
04:29.24 | mishehu | I wonder how much it would be to run fiber between this building at the CO... which is right across the parking lot... |
04:29.28 | _Eagle_ | well, what does that cost? |
04:29.32 | JerJer | or you collocate there |
04:29.52 | JerJer | and get a couple bonded T-1s back to it for your own b/w |
04:30.30 | _Eagle_ | maybe i'm not making myself clear |
04:30.35 | _Eagle_ | this is not for me and my isp |
04:30.57 | _Eagle_ | this is for someone i know who needs fiber into their location |
04:31.13 | _Eagle_ | cant be wireless, cant be t1, cant be ethernet, cant colocate, etc etc etc |
04:31.26 | _Eagle_ | must be fiber to at *least* the nearest dark fiber splice point |
04:33.25 | JerJer | urm why no collocate? |
04:33.35 | _Eagle_ | never mind |
04:33.44 | _Eagle_ | you already said you dont know the cost to run fiber |
04:33.54 | _Eagle_ | and thats the only answer i need right now |
04:34.13 | Moc__ | cost 1100$/month here |
04:34.22 | _Eagle_ | i'm not going to spend 20 minutes arguing back and forth about colocation and wireless and every other option |
04:35.09 | _Eagle_ | assume that God almight hath dropped stone tablets to earth commanding that it be fiber, and that if he doesnt use fiber, the end of the world is upon us... and all ye shall perish painfully |
04:36.12 | _Eagle_ | moc: the number i'm looking for is a one-time cost per mile |
04:36.19 | _Eagle_ | and it just has to be ballpark |
04:36.28 | _Eagle_ | for budgeting purposes |
04:36.41 | Moc__ | well it 1100$/month anywhere downtown, even acrost the street... |
04:36.52 | _Eagle_ | like i said, people have thrown out anywhere from $4000 a mile to $40,000 a mile |
04:37.02 | Moc__ | the city charge for having a wire in the underground |
04:37.08 | _Eagle_ | 1100 /month is not a one-time price |
04:38.34 | _Eagle_ | i just wanna know if its $4-6,000/mile or $20-25,000/mile or $35-40,000/mile, etc etc |
04:38.50 | _Eagle_ | makes a big difference when someone is trying to plan a project |
04:39.11 | mishehu | ~theanswer _Eagle_ |
04:39.13 | jbot | _Eagle_: 42 |
04:39.16 | Moc__ | we can't really have that here for buisness, telcom have those option, but always resell per month |
04:40.08 | Moc__ | hey his client are already leaving |
04:40.32 | _Eagle_ | heh |
04:40.54 | debaser | burying fiber? |
04:41.10 | debaser | you'll average $30-90/ft |
04:41.29 | _Eagle_ | what about aerial? |
04:41.32 | debaser | depending on if you're on rail rows (that you don't have to repave) or going down streets. |
04:41.56 | debaser | heh, i wouldn't know about arial |
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04:42.20 | _Eagle_ | uhh |
04:42.26 | debaser | (i sometimes get contracts to inspect interduct installation) |
04:42.39 | _Eagle_ | you're saying $158,000 to $475,000 per mile... i *know* thats not right |
04:43.02 | debaser | no, thats about right |
04:43.07 | Moc__ | _Eagle_, call monday to get an estimate |
04:43.09 | debaser | total cost |
04:43.47 | debaser | thats design, route study, permitting, laying interduct, populating interduct, reconditioning area. |
04:43.48 | Moc__ | it gonna cost us about 46000$ for having a 1 mile link from 2 location for 4 month |
04:43.59 | _Eagle_ | moc: 1) its not for me, 2) its a long ways from that stage |
04:44.16 | Moc__ | so what, it free ;) |
04:44.24 | _Eagle_ | debaser: maybe in new york city... |
04:44.48 | debaser | Moc: my guess is that thats tarrifed price. not to lay your own facilities |
04:44.52 | Moc__ | there is man holes everywhere |
04:45.08 | debaser | _Eagle_: no. that was in southwestern pennsylvania |
04:45.18 | Moc__ | yep, it just lease equipemement |
04:45.22 | Moc__ | lease fiber |
04:45.57 | debaser | a long haul fiber route for a tier 1 provider |
04:46.13 | _Eagle_ | debaser: well, maybe the numbers ive heard are for aerial fiber then.... because the *maximum* ive heard anyone say, anywhere in the country, is $40,000/mile and they said that was on the high side |
04:46.21 | debaser | buried 4 interducts on this route from dc to chicago |
04:46.32 | debaser | i think 2 of the interducts are populated now |
04:46.59 | Moc__ | it gonna cost us more than 46k$ for a 1 mile dark fiber for 4 month only |
04:47.24 | debaser | that cost per foot per wire, it was per route-foot |
04:47.41 | _Eagle_ | moc: you're not talking about the same thing that i am |
04:47.44 | debaser | er, wasn't per wire |
04:47.59 | debaser | you get alot of little strands of glass in a bigass interduct. |
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04:48.29 | debaser | at any rate. blowing fiber is cheap. |
04:48.45 | debaser | its getting those big ass pipes in the ground to blow it through that gets you |
04:48.54 | Moc__ | what i mean is having a lease link cost 46$k, it gonna cost hell more for a private permanent fiber with no monthly fee |
04:49.25 | Moc__ | _Eagle_, use a laser link instead... |
04:49.36 | debaser | heh, yeah |
04:49.41 | debaser | its only a mile. airbridge it. |
04:49.50 | _Eagle_ | i didnt say it was a mile |
04:49.55 | _Eagle_ | i dont know the actual distance |
04:50.01 | _Eagle_ | i'm just looking for a cost per mile |
04:50.31 | SwK | RFC 2549 it... thats pretty cheap |
04:50.45 | _Eagle_ | never mind.. lets just drop it.... |
04:50.52 | _Eagle_ | ive already explained, it MUST be fiber |
04:51.00 | _Eagle_ | lets just drop it |
04:51.19 | SwK | _Eagle_: you should read that RFC (or atleast google it for the title) |
04:52.35 | _Eagle_ | heh |
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04:52.44 | _Eagle_ | im surprised they actually assigned that an RFC number |
04:53.24 | _Eagle_ | ive had a very stressful day |
04:53.30 | _Eagle_ | sorry if i seem a bit bitchy tonight |
04:54.14 | _Eagle_ | ive had a little good news, a lot of bad news, and am now forced into making a *major* decision by sunday night.. and i'm stressed |
04:54.39 | _Eagle_ | i thought irc would relax me :-) |
04:55.08 | mishehu | hahahaha! |
04:55.12 | mishehu | irc is rarely relaxing! |
04:55.23 | mishehu | masturbation or sex, however, IS. |
04:55.56 | _Eagle_ | ill keep that in mind |
04:57.04 | _Eagle_ | everything seemed so simple last week... now everything seems unnecessarily complicated |
04:57.27 | _Eagle_ | i think ill catch a little tv before bed |
04:57.40 | Supaplex | try the small tv's |
04:57.47 | Supaplex | they don't weigh as much |
04:58.05 | _Eagle_ | bye folks |
05:01.25 | SwK | damn someone was just a littel stressed |
05:02.27 | ReniRmx | wtf.. just go with the high number, problem solved |
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05:26.53 | ManxPower | Coffee it is |
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05:34.30 | XHTML-twistedize | eagle whatchya deciding? |
05:34.44 | XHTML-twistedize | duh |
05:34.44 | XHTML-twistedize | gone |
05:34.48 | XHTML-twistedize | buffer time |
05:34.56 | XHTML-twistedize | ManxPower: hows tha coffee |
05:35.14 | ManxPower | XHTML-twistedize: Pretty good. Added butter pecan syrup instead of sugar to it |
05:35.21 | XHTML-twistedize | yup |
05:35.23 | XHTML-twistedize | yum |
05:35.24 | XHTML-twistedize | rather |
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05:35.31 | XHTML-twistedize | forget it |
05:35.39 | ManxPower | All I need is chocolate and I'll have a complete meal. |
05:35.47 | XHTML-twistedize | oh yeah |
05:35.51 | XHTML-twistedize | chocolate!!!!! |
05:35.58 | XHTML-twistedize | chocolate > * |
05:36.08 | XHTML-twistedize | * != asterisk |
05:36.18 | XHTML-twistedize | you know what's good |
05:36.28 | XHTML-twistedize | costco's fresh chocolate cookies |
05:36.30 | XHTML-twistedize | MMmmmm |
05:36.34 | XHTML-twistedize | have some downstairs |
05:36.39 | XHTML-twistedize | I can fax you one |
05:36.41 | ManxPower | Sounds yummy. |
05:36.51 | ManxPower | Naw, I can make my own. |
05:37.08 | ManxPower | Well I can make my own mint chocolate chip cookies or chocolate mint chocolate chip cookies |
05:37.09 | XHTML-twistedize | I like their "white" chocolate macadamia ones too |
05:37.11 | XHTML-twistedize | those are good |
05:37.19 | XHTML-twistedize | you get FOOD network? |
05:37.33 | XHTML-twistedize | the ONLY ( O N L Y) show worth watching on there is "good eats" |
05:37.36 | XHTML-twistedize | it's really cool |
05:37.37 | ManxPower | XHTML-twistedize: Yes, but the only two shows I watch are Speet Dreams and 30 Minute Meals. |
05:37.49 | XHTML-twistedize | got a tivo-like-device? |
05:37.51 | ManxPower | I also watch $30 a Day |
05:37.54 | XHTML-twistedize | tape a good eats |
05:38.04 | ManxPower | I've seen it once or twice. |
05:38.11 | ManxPower | I don't recall being impressed with it. |
05:38.28 | ManxPower | Either that or a porn star. |
05:38.29 | XHTML-twistedize | the guy takes something like say cookies, and then does the whole half hour (hour now?) on varations on it |
05:38.43 | XHTML-twistedize | soft cookies, hard cookies (yuck), chewie cookies |
05:38.49 | XHTML-twistedize | and how the different stuff affects it |
05:39.03 | ManxPower | Ah. That might be useful. |
05:39.09 | XHTML-twistedize | why butter vs oil vs margarine |
05:39.10 | ManxPower | BRB I'll 3xthumbs up it |
05:39.14 | XHTML-twistedize | k |
05:39.45 | XHTML-twistedize | Wish I had the cookies one recorded it...that was one of his best |
05:40.31 | XHTML-twistedize | oh and he doesn't use ANY (well almost any) weird equipment that a normal person would never have in their house (or ingredients) |
05:40.41 | ManxPower | There |
05:40.50 | ManxPower | I'm more of a sweets guy than a savory guy |
05:40.56 | XHTML1Strict_brc | heh |
05:40.59 | XHTML1Strict_brc | me too |
05:41.14 | XHTML1Strict_brc | series 1 or 2 tivo? |
05:41.16 | XHTML1Strict_brc | got it hacked? |
05:41.18 | ManxPower | I have a mixer and foodprocessor that's it. |
05:41.24 | XHTML1Strict_brc | same here |
05:41.30 | XHTML1Strict_brc | foodprocessor borked iirc |
05:41.31 | ManxPower | Series 1, upgraded the HD to 120GB, that's the only hacking done on it. |
05:41.35 | XHTML1Strict_brc | awww |
05:41.39 | XHTML1Strict_brc | I know |
05:41.48 | XHTML1Strict_brc | we need a tivo asterisk plugin! |
05:41.49 | XHTML1Strict_brc | haha |
05:42.18 | XHTML1Strict_brc | pull the CID from asterisk and display it on the the the (DAMNIT XCHAT I TYPED T E H AND I MEAN IT!) tivo |
05:43.04 | XHTML1Strict_brc | I've got this Scientific Atlanta DVR box |
05:43.12 | XHTML1Strict_brc | I went to Comdex and CES |
05:44.40 | ManxPower | I just don't feel the need to hack the TiVo |
05:44.50 | ManxPower | I'm not much of an AV guy anyway |
05:48.47 | jefrey | ManXPower =) |
05:49.10 | jefrey | You was awake 8 hours ago when there's no sunlight here, and now it's morning |
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05:58.51 | XHTML1Strict_brc | back |
05:58.53 | XHTML1Strict_brc | tada |
05:58.58 | XHTML1Strict_brc | ManxPower |
05:59.03 | XHTML1Strict_brc | how's the coffee working |
05:59.36 | XHTML1Strict_brc | guess the coffee didn't work to well for ManxPower :0 |
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06:02.46 | ManxPower | Shhh! I'm hunting spam. |
06:04.02 | XHTML1Strict_brc | I do hereby decree that the vaporfone will have mucho unlabeled "soft" keys (as in programmable, not as in next to the display) with Green/Red Led's on em to work as BLF (busy lamp field(extension activity indicators)) |
06:04.12 | XHTML1Strict_brc | damnit! |
06:04.13 | XHTML1Strict_brc | wrong window |
06:04.28 | XHTML1Strict_brc | x-chat sux |
06:04.45 | XHTML1Strict_brc | hey ManxPower |
06:04.53 | XHTML1Strict_brc | you gota debian startup script? |
06:05.23 | Supaplex | nawe, deb starts up fine. uses grub. |
06:06.01 | XHTML1Strict_brc | ~cluebat Supaplex |
06:06.03 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Supaplex. |
06:06.03 | ManxPower | I don't use debian |
06:06.08 | IOscanner | Any one have problems with Authenication() failing with MeetMe? |
06:06.15 | XHTML1Strict_brc | ~debianhater ManxPower |
06:06.28 | IOscanner | Just put it in inittab |
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06:06.44 | XHTML1Strict_brc | BoRiS: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
06:06.59 | BoRiS | wow.... |
06:07.04 | IOscanner | MH:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/asterisk -f >> /dev/null 2>&1 |
06:07.12 | XHTML1Strict_brc | BoRiS ~~~~~~~~~~``````````````````!!!!!!!1111111111 |
06:07.18 | ManxPower | XHTML1Strict_brc: I have jbot on /ignore. |
06:07.19 | BoRiS | Hi brc :) |
06:07.24 | XHTML1Strict_brc | ManxPower I know :p |
06:07.38 | Maveric | ManxPower have you stopped ignoreing me yet? |
06:07.46 | XHTML1Strict_brc | I don't think so |
06:08.02 | XHTML1Strict_brc | now if only I can "h4x0r" jbot to change his nick.../me rubs hands eviliy |
06:08.05 | ManxPower | I suppose 1am CDT on a friday is not the best time to experiment on production servers and expect help from IRC channels, huh? |
06:08.10 | IOscanner | MeetMe conf rooms work but I can't use Authenticate. Any one know a work around or a fix, or is it just me? |
06:08.12 | XHTML1Strict_brc | IOscanner: thanks |
06:08.23 | IOscanner | no prob |
06:08.26 | XHTML1Strict_brc | :p |
06:08.37 | Maveric | IOscanner i've never had a problem with it |
06:08.38 | IOscanner | this way when you do stop now it will restart again |
06:09.04 | ManxPower | IOscanner: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Alists.digium.com+meetme+authenticate&btnG=Google+Search |
06:09.04 | XHTML1Strict_brc | ManxPower: <Maveric> ManxPower have you stopped ignoreing me yet? |
06:09.04 | Maveric | someone tell manxpower to stop ignoreing me |
06:09.05 | Maveric | thank you |
06:09.09 | XHTML1Strict_brc | <Maveric> someone tell manxpower to stop ignoreing me |
06:09.09 | XHTML1Strict_brc | <Maveric> thank you |
06:09.13 | Maveric | lol |
06:09.16 | XHTML1Strict_brc | <Maveric> lol |
06:09.20 | ManxPower | Maveric: What's your e-mail address so I can watch for a post from you on the mailing list? |
06:09.20 | IOscanner | does someone have a good sample I can see. |
06:09.42 | IOscanner | do I need to do something to setup Authenticate()? |
06:09.43 | Maveric | ManxPower its maveric@easynews.com |
06:09.47 | Maveric | i used my work email addy |
06:09.52 | XHTML1Strict_brc | ooooo |
06:09.54 | Maveric | i haven't posted to it yet |
06:09.55 | XHTML1Strict_brc | you work at easynews? |
06:09.58 | Maveric | yes |
06:09.59 | Maveric | lol |
06:10.00 | XHTML1Strict_brc | easynews ROX |
06:10.11 | XHTML1Strict_brc | easynews==local sourceforge mirror |
06:10.13 | XHTML1Strict_brc | verwyfast |
06:10.24 | Maveric | they are doing $20 dollar 100 gig 10 month accounts right now |
06:10.39 | XHTML1Strict_brc | phun! |
06:10.39 | Maveric | for 2 days only |
06:10.40 | ManxPower | IOscanner: "show application authenticate" |
06:10.46 | Maveric | lol |
06:10.57 | Maveric | ManxPower please stop ignoreing me and trust that i am on the list |
06:11.18 | XHTML1Strict_brc | what's the Iamdistantlyaquantedwithsomebodywhoworksateasynews discount? |
06:11.30 | IOscanner | Do I need to pass an option to make it work? |
06:11.47 | Maveric | you should't have to IOscanner |
06:11.51 | Maveric | lol XHTML1Strict_brc |
06:11.59 | XHTML1Strict_brc | awwww comon |
06:12.01 | XHTML1Strict_brc | purttyplease! |
06:12.08 | IOscanner | also anyone know what the default location it looks for the file in, if a pass file is used. |
06:12.09 | XHTML1Strict_brc | why only 10 month |
06:12.26 | Maveric | huh? |
06:12.33 | Maveric | why only what a month? |
06:13.23 | XHTML1Strict_brc | wow...amazing...ya guys link to your competitors on yer homepage (http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/providers/providers.html) |
06:14.25 | Maveric | what do you mean |
06:14.35 | XHTML1Strict_brc | whatdoyoumeanwhatdoImeanwhatdoyoumean? |
06:14.44 | XHTML1Strict_brc | this is yew right? http://www.easynews.com/ |
06:15.02 | Maveric | yes |
06:15.57 | IOscanner | CVS-05/20/04-15:34:26 |
06:16.08 | Maveric | is that head or stable? |
06:16.49 | Maveric | XHTML1Strict_brc i don't see links to competitors |
06:16.52 | Maveric | lol |
06:17.12 | XHTML1Strict_brc | "Easynews knows that you have (link)many Usenet servers to choose from(/link) when you connect to Usenet." |
06:17.20 | XHTML1Strict_brc | looks like a list of other providers to me... |
06:17.23 | XHTML1Strict_brc | I must be stupid |
06:17.38 | IOscanner | exten => 150,2,Wait(1) |
06:17.38 | IOscanner | ;exten => 150,3,Authenticate(1234) |
06:17.38 | IOscanner | exten => 150,4,MeetMe(151|pm) |
06:17.38 | IOscanner | exten => 150,5,Playback(vm-goodbye) |
06:17.39 | IOscanner | exten => 150,6,Hangup |
06:17.45 | Maveric | where XHTML1Strict_brc |
06:17.51 | Death_INC | IOscanner, you can't skip a priority |
06:17.57 | Maveric | wtf are you using the auth line there? |
06:18.00 | XHTML1Strict_brc | that's cool you give credits for running the United Devices dist client |
06:18.09 | IOscanner | it is commented |
06:18.18 | XHTML1Strict_brc | Maveric: ON THE DAMN EASYNEWS HOMEPAGE? |
06:18.19 | Maveric | meetme has built in auth's |
06:18.21 | Death_INC | IOscanner, you can't do that, you need priority 3 after 2 |
06:18.28 | IOscanner | I have tried it both with and without. Both meetme and auth fail |
06:18.39 | Maveric | i'm looking XHTML1Strict_brc i don't see what your talking about |
06:18.54 | XHTML1Strict_brc | standby |
06:19.09 | Maveric | tell me an exact phrase |
06:19.25 | Maveric | IOscanner it should work |
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06:20.33 | Maveric | works fine here IOscanner |
06:20.39 | XHTML1Strict_brc | on page http://www.easynews.com/ Easynews® has been providing netizens with premium, high-quality Usenet access for over 9 years....blahblah.....usenet is blahblah...People use usenet for all types of blahblah....Easynews knows that you have <a href=http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/providers/providers.html>many Usenet servers to choose from</a> when you connect to Usenet. However, Easynews has become the #1 Usenet server o |
06:20.39 | XHTML1Strict_brc | f choice among Usenet power-users. " |
06:20.48 | Maveric | whats your meetme.conf look like |
06:20.59 | Maveric | oh that link |
06:21.02 | XHTML1Strict_brc | I have so got to sleep |
06:21.04 | Maveric | yes we do have that one |
06:21.10 | Maveric | why brc? |
06:21.19 | XHTML1Strict_brc | well |
06:21.33 | XHTML1Strict_brc | so I can get up at 6:30 tomorrow |
06:22.00 | XHTML1Strict_brc | taking my puppy to her class.. |
06:22.57 | Death_INC | brc007, wtf was with that nick... |
06:23.07 | brc007 | Death_INC: waaaay over yer head |
06:23.13 | Death_INC | lol |
06:23.15 | brc007 | that wooshing sound |
06:23.18 | brc007 | is the sound of the joke |
06:23.24 | IOscanner | Well still same problem. I can't seem to get the MeetMe app to authenticate it says the pin is not valid for this conference. |
06:23.25 | brc007 | going overy yer head |
06:23.36 | IOscanner | Here are my options from meetme.conf |
06:23.37 | brc007 | please keep all bodyparts below the flying joke |
06:23.39 | IOscanner | [rooms] |
06:23.39 | IOscanner | conf => 151,1234 |
06:23.52 | Maveric | hrm |
06:24.13 | bkw_ | dafds |
06:25.19 | brc007 | Death_INC: care to take a guess |
06:25.29 | brc007 | weather I've gotten money yet |
06:25.38 | brc007 | to buy the server n t1 card |
06:26.35 | Death_INC | brc007, my guess is no |
06:26.50 | brc007 | damnit I need lame mIRC to send sounds |
06:26.57 | brc007 | what's that sound they play on cheezy gameshows |
06:27.04 | brc007 | DUH DUHHNNNNNNNN! |
06:27.11 | Death_INC | I use BitchX anyways |
06:27.11 | Death_INC | heh |
06:27.22 | brc007 | however |
06:27.23 | brc007 | they want |
06:27.25 | brc007 | and get this |
06:27.35 | Death_INC | IOscanner, and when it asked for pin you entered 1234? |
06:27.38 | brc007 | a QUOTE"Proposal"ENDQUOTE |
06:27.42 | brc007 | R O T F |
06:27.44 | brc007 | L M F A O |
06:27.48 | IOscanner | Yes |
06:27.51 | brc007 | uhm... |
06:28.12 | Death_INC | of course you need a proposal, outlining what services you will provide etc |
06:28.15 | brc007 | yes hello, I am the phone guy...uhm...I was just wondering...uhm (fidgets) |
06:28.39 | Death_INC | thought you said you had a contract for a T1 already |
06:29.05 | brc007 | uhm |
06:29.06 | brc007 | yeah |
06:29.08 | brc007 | that's the thing |
06:29.10 | brc007 | WE DO |
06:29.18 | Death_INC | so uh yea |
06:29.27 | brc007 | wat |
06:29.32 | brc007 | I mean I'm making one |
06:29.36 | Death_INC | the T1 is in their name I hope? |
06:29.40 | brc007 | just wish they had asked like 3 months ago |
06:29.41 | brc007 | oh yeah |
06:29.42 | brc007 | itis |
06:29.54 | Death_INC | then tell them fine, pay for your T1 for a year without using it |
06:30.13 | brc007 | wellyup it is their money to waste however they see fit |
06:30.21 | brc007 | supprisingly ELI hasn't turned it up yet |
06:30.36 | Death_INC | or you can give me the money to actually purchase the hardware so you don't throw the money away, your choice no problem to me |
06:30.40 | brc007 | can't figure why they haven't said ready or not here comes the bill |
06:31.01 | brc007 | yeah |
06:31.04 | brc007 | on the otherhand |
06:31.08 | *** join/#asterisk mitchel_ (~mitchel@psr2552298.z163-153-67.customer.algx.net) |
06:31.21 | brc007 | them wanten a 'proposal' ain't that bad a thing for me |
06:31.45 | Death_INC | yah it's not a big deal as long as you're not gonna get stuck with the bill if they don't take it |
06:31.53 | brc007 | I can put my nominal fee in it :p |
06:31.54 | Death_INC | make up 2 options for them |
06:31.57 | Death_INC | let them choose |
06:31.57 | brc007 | yeah I'm not |
06:32.08 | brc007 | what 2 options? |
06:32.15 | brc007 | pay or don't pay? |
06:32.16 | Death_INC | VoIP/PSTN |
06:32.18 | mitchel_ | hey guys, signed up for nufone, i was wondering if anyone had tips for improving quality on GSM calls or if what i get is what i get |
06:32.20 | brc007 | oh |
06:32.22 | brc007 | nah |
06:32.23 | brc007 | yeah |
06:32.24 | brc007 | I remember now |
06:32.28 | brc007 | you haven't been around in AGES |
06:32.31 | brc007 | but |
06:32.34 | brc007 | I considered VoIP |
06:32.40 | Death_INC | mitchel_, I dont like gsm, try ilbc or ulaw |
06:32.41 | brc007 | and I don't want to 'risk' it yet |
06:32.46 | Death_INC | but thats just me |
06:32.52 | Death_INC | hah risk |
06:33.01 | mitchel_ | death? they support it? |
06:33.03 | Death_INC | if you want to make about 1/2 what you could that's your choice :b |
06:33.08 | brc007 | ya know the whole there's the public internet between me n the provider... |
06:33.11 | Death_INC | mitchel_, yea and speex too |
06:33.20 | brc007 | not concerned about taps...just QoS |
06:33.22 | mitchel_ | so which one would be the best |
06:33.25 | brc007 | so |
06:33.27 | mitchel_ | ilbc or speex? or ulaw |
06:33.28 | brc007 | oh |
06:33.28 | Death_INC | brc007, the internet never goes down |
06:33.31 | brc007 | no |
06:33.38 | mitchel_ | i know i need less tthen or around 30KBps bandwidth per call |
06:33.42 | Death_INC | brc007, it's designed to withstand a nuclear holocaust... |
06:33.42 | brc007 | but sometimes it lags for a second/minute |
06:33.45 | brc007 | yes yes |
06:34.10 | Death_INC | mitchel_, ilbc or speex are lower bw than GSM if I remember correctly |
06:34.10 | brc007 | but it wasn't eggzactly designed to carry realtime voice trafic :p |
06:34.18 | brc007 | anyhow |
06:34.23 | brc007 | it doesn't matter |
06:34.24 | mitchel_ | death? lower quality too? |
06:34.27 | Maveric | mitchel_ might as well as use ulaw then |
06:34.29 | brc007 | because I reread the contract |
06:34.36 | Death_INC | mitchel_, not really it usually sounds better |
06:34.41 | brc007 | I can not get out no way, now how, not even if hell freezes over |
06:34.50 | Death_INC | mitchel_, if you really worried about qual. use ulaw yea |
06:35.10 | Death_INC | brc007, but they can probably change it to data |
06:35.15 | brc007 | Death_INC: So I'm just gonna use the Local PRI and try to find a better longdistance rate |
06:35.19 | Maveric | all i ever use is ulaw |
06:35.28 | brc007 | Death_INC: I duno...I read this contract and it is damn airtight |
06:35.29 | Maveric | its good as long as your not trying voip thru dialup |
06:35.29 | Maveric | lol |
06:35.48 | brc007 | anyway |
06:35.50 | Death_INC | brc007, that dosnt matter, if you both agree to change it then its all good |
06:35.58 | brc007 | true |
06:36.01 | brc007 | but |
06:36.15 | mitchel_ | allow=ILBC or ilbc |
06:36.18 | Death_INC | brc007, all you gotta do is ask its not like you're not going to be giving them their $$$ for the T1 line |
06:36.23 | Death_INC | mitchel_, ilbc |
06:36.29 | brc007 | there's still the if any one of the points inbetween me and the provider lags thing... |
06:36.50 | brc007 | Death_INC: right, but |
06:37.00 | Death_INC | brc007, I've never had it happen... you're on the continental US, everything's fiber there |
06:37.17 | mitchel_ | death which switch are you using |
06:37.22 | mitchel_ | or does nufone have to allow you |
06:37.24 | Death_INC | mitchel_, switch-1 |
06:37.25 | brc007 | then there's the whole the PHB's don't think they want VoIP |
06:37.32 | mitchel_ | i don't think i'm allowed then |
06:37.48 | mitchel_ | Unable to create translator path for UNKN to GSM on IAX2[NuFone]/3 |
06:37.52 | Death_INC | naw they allow ilbc,speex,gsm,ulaw and like everything else |
06:37.53 | brc007 | and the best IAX VoIP providers payment interface leaves.......a LOT to be desired |
06:37.53 | Maveric | death its possible trust me |
06:37.58 | brc007 | er |
06:38.06 | brc007 | and there's the whole ........thing. |
06:38.33 | mitchel_ | death i'm getting that error |
06:38.38 | Death_INC | brc007, if you're doing wholesale from nufone it's alot better... the onesie-twosies like us isn't as good |
06:38.58 | brc007 | yeah twist.ed quoted me 1.86c/MIN if we put down 5 grand |
06:38.59 | brc007 | but |
06:39.11 | brc007 | he didn't mention anything about a contract insuring me that rate or anything |
06:39.13 | mitchel_ | <PROTECTED> |
06:39.15 | mitchel_ | but thats US rates |
06:39.18 | Death_INC | mitchel_, you have disallow=all, allow=ilbc? |
06:39.19 | mitchel_ | what about out of the country? |
06:39.24 | mitchel_ | death, yes |
06:39.31 | brc007 | he was gonna look into that but never got back to me (maybe I told him nm..can't remember) |
06:39.31 | Death_INC | and NOTHING else? |
06:39.32 | mitchel_ | disallow=all |
06:39.32 | mitchel_ | allow=ilbc |
06:39.40 | mitchel_ | yep |
06:39.44 | brc007 | Death_INC: you talking to me? |
06:39.46 | brc007 | oh nm |
06:39.46 | Death_INC | strange |
06:39.58 | brc007 | Death_INC: I calculated it out as best I could |
06:40.07 | mitchel_ | 5 grand brc? thats not much, i say go for it |
06:40.39 | Death_INC | brc007, *shrug* up to you :) |
06:40.47 | brc007 | Death_INC: looks like we'd save around $500/month with nufone and a DataT1 HOWEVER that does NOT account for the fact that we'd have to pay LD for local calls |
06:40.52 | Death_INC | mitchel_, jerjer didnt' set up anythign special for me |
06:41.10 | brc007 | and it's like drawing blood from a rock to get numbers from the office (such as local usage) |
06:41.25 | Death_INC | brc007, not if you send local calls out through a PSTN interface |
06:41.26 | mitchel_ | brc? before you do something like that |
06:41.28 | mitchel_ | get a nufone account |
06:41.31 | mitchel_ | and test it out |
06:41.34 | brc007 | I have one |
06:41.34 | mitchel_ | like quality |
06:41.35 | mitchel_ | etc |
06:41.37 | mitchel_ | oh ok |
06:41.39 | mitchel_ | =X |
06:41.40 | brc007 | but |
06:41.51 | brc007 | there is a difference between my cable modem and a data T1 |
06:41.56 | mitchel_ | true |
06:42.00 | brc007 | it sounds okay to me...not awesome |
06:42.03 | mitchel_ | i'm running 768kbps |
06:42.08 | mitchel_ | and one call doesn't sound v ery good |
06:42.14 | mitchel_ | i'm going to try ulaw insttead of gsm |
06:42.17 | Death_INC | brc007, sounds like PSTN :b they usually sound OK too |
06:42.31 | Death_INC | mitchel_, make sure echo cancellation is on |
06:42.39 | brc007 | but like I said a major drawback is it's prepaid only, NO way to get your balence other then emailing them and waiting a few hours (normally) to a couple days |
06:42.57 | mitchel_ | death, in iax.conf? |
06:43.05 | Death_INC | brc007, that's not the contract type tho... .billing there is different... and no I've not done it but I've listened heh |
06:43.18 | Death_INC | mitchel_, zaptel.conf |
06:43.18 | Maveric | mitchel_ those codecs your trying blow compared to ulaw |
06:43.32 | Maveric | if you want good compression and sound quality you need g.729 |
06:43.37 | bkw_ | g729 is great |
06:43.44 | bkw_ | gsm is good |
06:43.47 | bkw_ | g726 is great |
06:43.47 | brc007 | is ulaw > alaw? |
06:43.48 | Maveric | what up bkw |
06:43.50 | bkw_ | ilbc is good |
06:43.51 | mitchel_ | and requires a license |
06:43.55 | brc007 | never figured how they are different exactly |
06:43.57 | mitchel_ | so say i wanted g726 |
06:43.58 | Maveric | brc they are pretty much the same |
06:44.00 | mitchel_ | thats allow=glaw |
06:44.02 | Death_INC | ilbc sounded the same as g729 to me, but yea compression was a bit better with g729 |
06:44.04 | brc007 | what's prefered? |
06:44.07 | mitchel_ | but how does it know to pick 726 |
06:44.38 | Maveric | ulaw in the us |
06:44.40 | Death_INC | my * box just crashed, it REALLY dislikes 2.6 heh |
06:44.44 | Maveric | and alaw in euro |
06:44.51 | Maveric | lol |
06:45.10 | IOscanner | Well I have tried everything I can, Meetme just tell me the pin is incorrect for this conference. Any other ideas. |
06:45.31 | Maveric | that doesn't make any sense IOscanner |
06:45.53 | Maveric | IOscanner you have fwd going thru your asterisk box? |
06:46.04 | IOscanner | no |
06:46.16 | IOscanner | SIP and X100P card |
06:46.28 | IOscanner | everything works but this now |
06:46.29 | Maveric | get a fwd account |
06:46.46 | IOscanner | I have one just don't have it setup |
06:47.10 | Maveric | set it up then |
06:47.19 | Maveric | i'll call your pbx and give it a try |
06:47.19 | Maveric | lol |
06:47.33 | IOscanner | sure...give me a sec |
06:47.44 | ManxPower | IOscanner: I don't know of MeetMe's PIN works. |
06:47.49 | ManxPower | Use Authenticate. |
06:48.00 | Maveric | it does for me ManxPower |
06:48.02 | Maveric | i just tried |
06:48.03 | ManxPower | But I'm sure you already knew that from reading the URL I have you a while ago |
06:48.05 | IOscanner | I tried that too |
06:48.26 | Death_INC | IOscanner, does it work w/o a PIN? |
06:48.36 | IOscanner | Yes |
06:49.00 | Death_INC | IOscanner, what are you calling it with? SIP or zaptel interface or? |
06:49.11 | Death_INC | Legend: does it recognize your DTMF |
06:49.11 | IOscanner | No problem tested it with six phones. I just would like to add a pass to the conf |
06:49.16 | Death_INC | erg, thats eg: |
06:49.25 | IOscanner | LOCAL at this time |
06:49.26 | IOscanner | SIP |
06:49.36 | Death_INC | make sure you get DTMF |
06:49.42 | IOscanner | I have tired both |
06:49.45 | ManxPower | IOscanner: If you do not read this URL http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2003-March/009349.html I'll smack you silly |
06:49.53 | IOscanner | I can call voicemail and it works with DTMF |
06:50.02 | IOscanner | reads my pass etc |
06:51.21 | Maveric | io paste something for me |
06:51.29 | IOscanner | ManxPower I have tired that too. I will try again to be sure. |
06:51.37 | Maveric | manxpower the pin in meetme works for me |
06:51.45 | IOscanner | Mav? |
06:51.49 | Maveric | paste that line for me io |
06:51.52 | Maveric | the manxpower one |
06:52.04 | IOscanner | Which line? |
06:52.15 | Maveric | <Maveric> manxpower the pin in meetme works for me |
06:52.44 | Maveric | that one |
06:53.14 | Death_INC | Maveric, is he ignoring you or something? |
06:53.56 | IOscanner | based on the docs I am the syntax is correct. It must be something else. |
06:54.41 | IOscanner | E-mail auth works. The code for the Auth must be different between the Authenticate() and MeetME() and Voicemail. |
06:54.47 | Maveric | yes dea |
06:54.50 | Maveric | death |
06:55.02 | Maveric | god damnit someone paste that fucking line to manx |
06:55.16 | Death_INC | lol |
06:55.23 | Maveric | <Maveric> manxpower the pin in meetme works for me |
06:55.26 | Maveric | grr |
06:55.39 | Death_INC | ManxPower, mav made me paste this: <Maveric> manxpower the pin in meetme works for me |
06:55.48 | IOscanner | neither Auth or Meet seem to not work for me |
06:56.07 | *** join/#asterisk gromit (~tim@wendolene.txrx.org.uk) |
06:56.12 | ManxPower | Death_INC: You'd think thee would be enough people here to help Maveric that my help policies would not affect him. |
06:56.14 | Maveric | does for me |
06:56.16 | Death_INC | IOscanner, then use readdigits or whatever it is (my * box is foobar) to manually authenticate them? |
06:56.31 | IOscanner | I wish the pin in meetme works for me |
06:56.46 | Maveric | IOscanner are you using head or stable cvs? |
06:56.52 | Death_INC | ManxPower, heh what happened? |
06:57.19 | Maveric | manx has helped me a lil bit |
06:57.27 | Maveric | he got mad because i wasn't on the mailing lists |
06:57.30 | Maveric | but i am now |
06:57.31 | IOscanner | CVS-05/20/04-15:34:26 |
06:57.33 | ManxPower | Death_INC: Maveric was not on the mailing list. I put people not on the mailing list on /ignore. |
06:57.39 | Maveric | io is that head or stable cvs tree? |
06:57.41 | Death_INC | lol, I see |
06:57.52 | ManxPower | I try to remember to exclude /msg's from the /ignore however. |
06:57.53 | Death_INC | he says he is now haha |
06:57.59 | IOscanner | Stable |
06:58.03 | ManxPower | Maveric is cool. I have nothing against him personally. |
06:58.23 | ManxPower | So if they REALLY want to just chat they can /msg me. |
06:58.39 | Maveric | IOscanner are you sure? |
06:58.54 | Maveric | i'm using stable cvs |
06:59.16 | Maveric | CVS-04/22/04-16:11:46 |
07:00.47 | IOscanner | I would have to check the CVS command I used maybe I used the head but I thought I got the stable |
07:00.53 | timecop | oh wtf |
07:00.59 | timecop | i couldnt conference 2 lines via iax |
07:01.02 | timecop | because i had bandwidth set to low |
07:01.14 | Maveric | lol |
07:01.18 | timecop | THIS SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED SOMEWHERE |
07:01.21 | Maveric | that sux timecop |
07:01.39 | Death_INC | timecop, bandwidth=low should only set what codecs are usable.... |
07:01.41 | ManxPower | timecop: the Wiki is your friend |
07:01.53 | Death_INC | it does more? bah |
07:02.28 | blitzrage | ugh... too much beer :) |
07:02.36 | Maveric | i didn't know you could conf on an ata186 i found out otherwise today |
07:06.30 | IOscanner | Someone said I could check for DTMF manually any one have a link? |
07:08.09 | Death_INC | IOscanner, you'd just have to make a temp context that you jump into to authen, with the only valid extension being the pin number, which calls the meetme |
07:08.22 | Death_INC | IOscanner, and background something asking for password |
07:08.35 | mitchel_ | anyone know this ermm..bug..or rather crappy way that 79XX works? When conferencing a call you can't hang up one party but rather you have to hang up both parties, so you can't just stay on with one person...hmm |
07:08.45 | Death_INC | IOscanner, and you could use a variable and the i exten to allow 3 tries etc |
07:09.23 | Maveric | mitchel_ yeah i've had a lil expirance with that |
07:09.38 | mitchel_ | maveric is there a fix or just the way it works? |
07:09.45 | IOscanner | Cool thanks |
07:09.52 | Maveric | i'm not sure of any fixes |
07:10.01 | Maveric | yeah IOscanner thats a way to do it |
07:10.06 | Maveric | i actually use that |
07:10.14 | Maveric | just made a secret exten |
07:10.19 | Maveric | in one of my voice menus |
07:10.22 | IOscanner | here is a link http://www.marko.net/asterisk/archives/0207/0187.html |
07:10.24 | Maveric | to proxy off my pbx |
07:10.45 | ManxPower | To search the Asterisk mailing list archive go to www.google.com and put site:lists.digium.com in addition to your other query terms. |
07:10.47 | ManxPower | Useful Asterisk Docs (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unofficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ (my site) and http://asteriskdocs.org/ |
07:11.03 | brc007 | asdfj |
07:11.24 | Death_INC | exten => s,1,DISA,no-password|authenticate |
07:11.24 | Death_INC | exten => _XXXXXXXX,1,Congestion ; Bad password |
07:11.24 | Death_INC | exten => 12341234,1,AGI,lookatexten.agi ; Good password, script gets |
07:11.51 | Death_INC | instead of _XXXXXXX,1 I'd use exten => i,1,Background(wrong-pass) |
07:12.24 | Death_INC | or something similar |
07:12.43 | suma | Death_INC: that is wrong exten => i,1, ... |
07:12.54 | suma | it makes the user to guess the password |
07:13.15 | Death_INC | suma, I'd actually add a variable and only allow 3 tries til it hangs up |
07:13.22 | Death_INC | eg |
07:13.31 | JerJer | gotoif |
07:13.35 | Death_INC | yea |
07:14.06 | Death_INC | dammit I need to rebuild my * box back to 2.4, I can't try to get the 2.6 drivers working with it constantly doing kernel panics |
07:14.06 | suma | oh, you can have conditions too in extensions ? |
07:14.25 | JerJer | sure |
07:14.53 | suma | JerJer: can you give me a example with the same |
07:15.10 | Death_INC | suma: show application gotoif |
07:15.16 | IOscanner | you trying to get the zap driver working with 2.6(Death) |
07:15.36 | Death_INC | IOscanner, I was going to heh |
07:15.54 | IOscanner | It does work...I have it working on 2.6.5 |
07:15.58 | suma | thanks DeathINC |
07:16.40 | Death_INC | IOscanner, I've had it work a little then it stops... my zap interface isn't sharing an IRQ with anything either |
07:18.17 | IOscanner | Strange. I had the problem as first too. I found out that I have to run ztcfg before I start asterisk from a cold boot. Not sure why yet. It has been running for 2 days no problems. |
07:18.40 | Death_INC | you always have to run ztcfg before * |
07:18.41 | brc007 | -users list |
07:18.41 | brc007 | Asterisk Cygwin Port. |
07:18.51 | brc007 | how's it going i-fy |
07:19.18 | Maveric | brc goto bed damnit |
07:19.21 | IOscanner | ah.. |
07:19.25 | brc007 | Maveric: why |
07:19.25 | Death_INC | LOL |
07:19.26 | brc007 | oh yeah |
07:19.30 | brc007 | that whole getting up at 6 thing |
07:19.34 | Death_INC | brc007, because you're annoying! :b |
07:19.38 | Maveric | lol |
07:19.41 | brc007 | I am? |
07:19.42 | brc007 | WTF |
07:19.46 | brc007 | you lie! |
07:19.48 | Death_INC | lol |
07:19.53 | brc007 | I ask everyone |
07:19.53 | IOscanner | I still can't find any docs on how to add ringing when you are tranfering calls |
07:19.55 | brc007 | am I anoying? |
07:19.58 | suma | Death_INC: using GotoIf it self will make the user to guess the password |
07:20.22 | suma | you need to have _XXXXXXXX to avoid guessing |
07:20.31 | Death_INC | suma, you still need to use a variable to store what try they're on |
07:20.40 | suma | yep |
07:20.50 | suma | but when the user press other than 1 |
07:20.54 | mitchel_ | just make it into an agi script? |
07:20.56 | suma | it will go to invalid extension |
07:21.19 | Death_INC | suma, aah I see what you mean |
07:21.40 | Death_INC | then you want _X. |
07:21.48 | Death_INC | otherwise it still tells them how LONG the password is |
07:22.11 | suma | yep |
07:22.32 | suma | in this case you need to use Digittimeout(..) |
07:23.00 | suma | eventhough it is correct password 123412 and user talks for sometime and press the remaining ones |
07:23.04 | suma | you will reject it |
07:23.05 | Maveric | key is to always use digittimeout in these cases |
07:23.47 | suma | but that is acceptable too, if the user it taking much time to enter the PIN |
07:30.38 | *** join/#asterisk fbnts (~thomas@fbnts.plus.com) |
07:30.57 | mitchel_ | asterisk doesn't do live monitoring of calls does it? |
07:30.59 | mitchel_ | only records |
07:31.16 | brc007 | manager |
07:31.27 | mitchel_ | brc? |
07:31.35 | brc007 | proally could do it with the manager interface and a custom app |
07:31.41 | brc007 | there's wiki pages on it I believe |
07:31.55 | mitchel_ | well looks like i need a conference room |
07:32.02 | mitchel_ | and then i have to transfer the active parties into it |
07:32.08 | mitchel_ | and then enter it with silence mode |
07:32.14 | mitchel_ | so they can't hear it come in to monitor |
07:32.16 | mitchel_ | right? |
07:32.45 | IOscanner | I have a sip account setup for a fax line. Any one know what exten I would use to forward the call from 1234567 sip number (answered by asterisk) to extention (fax machine). |
07:33.04 | mitchel_ | fax |
07:33.09 | mitchel_ | if your call comes in |
07:33.11 | mitchel_ | anywhere |
07:33.14 | mitchel_ | and you have an Answer |
07:33.19 | mitchel_ | * will detect it as a fax |
07:33.24 | mitchel_ | and send it to the "fax" extension |
07:33.40 | IOscanner | Really...cool |
07:34.23 | mitchel_ | not that i've got it to work |
07:34.25 | mitchel_ | but if you do it |
07:34.26 | brc007 | exten => fax,1,Dial(ZAP/faxmachineport) |
07:34.29 | brc007 | <PROTECTED> |
07:34.29 | brc007 | <PROTECTED> |
07:34.29 | mitchel_ | and you have a dedeicated fadx line |
07:34.30 | IOscanner | exten => 1,1,Fax(LOCAL/105@default) |
07:34.37 | mitchel_ | i recommend setting absolute timeout on that line to about 5 minutes |
07:34.47 | mitchel_ | so no fax machines get caught trying to connect for too long on your bill |
07:34.59 | brc007 | er damnit |
07:35.02 | brc007 | I am tired |
07:35.04 | mitchel_ | and then priority 1 -> absolute and priority 2 -> answer and priority -> 3 music on hold |
07:35.06 | brc007 | thanks IOscanner |
07:35.41 | mitchel_ | ios, i think it's exten => fax, 1, application |
07:35.57 | brc007 | I too tired to know what it is |
07:36.01 | fbnts | does any1 know why * won't change ringing tones even when changed in indications.conf and reloaded asterisk? |
07:37.38 | IOscanner | Will asterisk receive the fax and save it to a file to be e-mailed? |
07:37.57 | IOscanner | for what brc007? |
07:38.32 | brc007 | nebermind :p |
07:38.37 | Death_INC | since when is there an app_fax? |
07:38.57 | ManxPower | Death_INC: since ftp.opencall.org |
07:39.05 | ManxPower | in the spandsp directory |
07:39.22 | Death_INC | ManxPower, aah cool that's new, used to be only RxFax/TxFAX |
07:39.47 | brc007_sleepingz | rxfax replacement? |
07:39.55 | ManxPower | Death_INC: Oh, app_fax? Never heard of it |
07:39.56 | Death_INC | ManxPower, strange I dont see it there |
07:41.50 | Death_INC | it's exten => fax,1,RxFAX(file.tif) if you use RxFAX, or exten => fax,1,Dial(Zap/3)... assuming Zap/3 is your fax machine |
07:42.02 | fbnts | does any1 know why * won't change ringing tones even when changed in indications.conf and reloaded asterisk? We are in the UK and want the ringing tones to simulate the UK Ring rather than the US |
07:42.47 | gromit | if you are using SIP phones, the tones are generated in th eSIP phone |
07:44.00 | fbnts | well its when we dial out we are using dial(****|r) and on incoming calls we are using ringing() |
07:45.23 | IOscanner | I thought it was exten => 1,3,Dial(LOCAL/104@default,20,r) |
07:46.32 | fbnts | sorry yes its calling a PSTN Provider via IAX just couldn't be bothered to type it all in. |
07:47.02 | IOscanner | you had |r |
07:47.13 | IOscanner | is it |r or ,r? |
07:47.13 | fbnts | It somit like dial(IAX2/USER:PASS@iax.voiptalk.org:44 |
07:47.16 | fbnts | oh right |
07:47.26 | fbnts | i think i have |r |
07:47.42 | fbnts | but im sure thats what it said at the CLI show application dial |
07:47.46 | fbnts | i'll just check |
07:48.29 | IOscanner | that would be my problem |
07:48.41 | IOscanner | an older doc had ,20,r for the ringer |
07:48.50 | IOscanner | looks like it is now | |
07:49.01 | fbnts | mind u it must be right cos with out the |r it just plays silence but when i put the |r it does play a ringing tone but its US even though ive changed the pattern in indications.conf |
07:49.28 | *** join/#asterisk rozo (~rozo@c-24-17-192-196.client.comcast.net) |
07:50.03 | IOscanner | thanks that fixed my problem.... |
07:50.12 | fbnts | yep its exactly like: Dial(IAX2/********:*****@iax.voiptalk.org/${EXTEN:3}||r) |
07:51.43 | fbnts | any ideas why asterisk is ignoring the indications.conf? |
07:52.08 | Death_INC | fbnts: have you searched the mailing lists? |
07:52.31 | fbnts | i searched the Wiki pages |
07:52.52 | fbnts | but theres nothing there apart from what the indications.conf file is for |
07:53.07 | twisted | wheeeee |
07:53.14 | twisted | (yes, i'm STILL up) |
07:53.52 | twisted | TALK PEOPLE |
07:53.52 | twisted | heh |
07:54.48 | *** join/#asterisk skokie (~GAP@172.80-203-30.nextgentel.com) |
07:54.52 | *** part/#asterisk skokie (~GAP@172.80-203-30.nextgentel.com) |
07:54.54 | ManxPower | twisted: I'm chortleing evily to myself while looking at my new SMTP anti-spam rexexps |
07:54.54 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (~Steve_Und@236.195.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
07:54.59 | twisted | hahaha |
07:55.33 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
07:55.33 | twisted | BUT - i move to huntsville next weekend |
07:55.43 | twisted | ManxPower, that'd work for a nice filter |
07:55.48 | ManxPower | twisted: Gonna work for Digium? |
07:55.55 | twisted | ManxPower, newp |
07:56.19 | twisted | gonna be working for an * consutant 'firm' |
07:56.19 | ManxPower | twisted: I have things like "cable" "dial" "ppp", etc in adition to the "dsl" one |
07:56.27 | twisted | haha |
07:56.36 | twisted | don't do that |
07:56.43 | twisted | bad filter |
07:56.53 | ManxPower | twisted: I may consider accepting contract from such places starting in Aug |
07:56.59 | twisted | cool |
07:56.59 | ManxPower | twisted: Why not? |
07:57.17 | twisted | you gotta figure |
07:57.25 | twisted | cablemodem's don't change IP's that often |
07:57.32 | twisted | (mine has been the same for over 5 months now) |
07:57.45 | twisted | therefore, if someone spams you froma cablemodem |
07:57.51 | ManxPower | twisted: I assume %100 of cablemodem will only send spam to us. |
07:57.52 | twisted | all you gotta do is report them, and they lose their account :P |
07:58.06 | ManxPower | twisted: I would be fileing 300 reports a day! |
07:58.15 | twisted | heh |
07:58.28 | twisted | well, mine doesn't have any of those keywords in it anyway |
07:58.31 | twisted | at least not right now |
07:58.37 | twisted | it may when i move to hsv, but who knows |
07:58.50 | ManxPower | Anyone that wants to send mail to us can use their ISPs server. |
07:59.02 | ManxPower | We do NOT have many geeks sending us mail. |
07:59.06 | twisted | hahaha |
07:59.09 | twisted | but I would :P |
07:59.35 | twisted | You do realize that between us two, we've been up at least a collective of about 40 hours in one day |
08:00.09 | ManxPower | twisted: Prolly so. I'm in a "shock my system" night. I feel SO much better if I have one of those occasionally |
08:00.14 | twisted | hahaha |
08:00.15 | twisted | me too |
08:00.22 | twisted | but mine are coming all too often recently |
08:00.29 | twisted | and with the current news, i'm just too hyped to go to bed |
08:00.48 | twisted | it's gonna be a complete lifestyle change that will be taking place over the course of a week |
08:01.18 | ManxPower | This is my fave regexp: /^.*-.*-.*-.*\..*\..*$/ |
08:01.24 | twisted | hahaha |
08:01.26 | twisted | block it ALL |
08:01.37 | ManxPower | twisted: I do NOT accept all nighters very often. |
08:01.50 | *** join/#asterisk switch (~switch@61.206.115.4) |
08:01.59 | ManxPower | twisted: Anything coming from consumer grade account, yes. |
08:03.15 | twisted | pretty soon i'll be able to stop begging for money in here |
08:03.24 | twisted | wether I will or not, that'll be a different story |
08:03.39 | ManxPower | LOL! |
08:03.47 | ManxPower | I beg for money on general principal |
08:03.50 | twisted | yeah |
08:03.54 | ManxPower | I help a lot of people. |
08:03.58 | twisted | i try to |
08:03.59 | ManxPower | I may stop at some point. |
08:04.05 | twisted | we usually work in shifts, or so i've noticed |
08:04.21 | twisted | you usually get a bulk of the daytime traffic, and I seem to handle a bulk of the night-owls |
08:04.41 | ManxPower | Or do something like: I won't chat on the channel today until I get $10 in paypal 8-) |
08:04.46 | twisted | hahaha |
08:04.49 | dov | what do people pay for cisco atas at the moment? |
08:04.58 | twisted | dov, froogle |
08:05.03 | twisted | heh |
08:05.14 | dov | fair enough |
08:05.14 | twisted | ebay is a good resource too, but you run a risk of getting a locked one |
08:05.24 | dov | at least thats a bit different to the usual 'google' response |
08:05.39 | twisted | dov, actually, i don't know... i think they run about $150 or so new |
08:06.00 | twisted | froogle == google (cept for prices and stuff) |
08:06.04 | Death_INC | ManxPower, why block hosts with three or more dashes in the hostname? |
08:06.21 | Death_INC | servers don't usualllyt I guess, makes sense actually |
08:06.27 | ManxPower | Death_INC: Because they are almost ALWAYS dynamic IP addresses... |
08:06.35 | *** join/#asterisk brc007 (~Brian@ip68-108-199-177.ph.ph.cox.net) |
08:06.38 | ManxPower | adsl-68-121-19-141.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net |
08:06.46 | twisted | hahaha |
08:06.53 | twisted | twisted@lebanon-24-159-26-5.midtn.chartertn.net |
08:06.58 | brc007 | interesting |
08:07.00 | brc007 | the asterisk 0.9 .deb files have a _bunch_ of changes |
08:07.02 | brc007 | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/asterisk/asterisk_0.9.0-2.diff.gz |
08:07.03 | ManxPower | cm61-15-54-186.hkcable.com.hk |
08:07.16 | brc007 | what are we doing? |
08:07.20 | twisted | hong kong cable modem? |
08:07.22 | twisted | nifty. |
08:07.26 | brc007 | my hostmask is bigger then yours? |
08:07.39 | twisted | i like kram's hostmask on irc |
08:07.44 | Death_INC | brc, I bet my hostmask can be bigger than yours in 60 seconds |
08:07.45 | twisted | kram.digium.sponsor.pdpc |
08:07.47 | dov | i would've thought cable in hk was fairly rare |
08:07.48 | brc007 | nobody care about debian |
08:07.49 | dov | its all adsl? |
08:07.52 | ManxPower | pool-68-163-141-120.bos.east.verizon.net |
08:07.53 | brc007 | Death_INC: have at it! |
08:08.05 | brc007 | yeah digium sponsors FN |
08:08.13 | brc007 | they are like one of 2 companies that do afaict |
08:08.25 | brc007 | this is sad |
08:08.30 | brc007 | go to #freenode |
08:08.34 | brc007 | readthe topi c |
08:08.37 | ManxPower | dov: High population density, high income levels. |
08:08.46 | brc007 | sad because not more companies support FN |
08:09.18 | brc007 | Death_INC: I'm still watiing |
08:09.26 | ManxPower | bondy-1-81-57-146-77.fbx.proxad.net |
08:09.29 | brc007 | Death_INC: tick tick tik |
08:09.54 | Death_INC | typed servername wrong |
08:10.03 | twisted | PDPC i thought was a primary donating private company? |
08:10.10 | *** join/#asterisk Death_lNC (~thanotos@my.hostmask.is.much.bigger.than.brc007s.hrd2gt.net) |
08:10.11 | twisted | or premier |
08:10.17 | twisted | or somethnig |
08:10.17 | Death_lNC | how's that? |
08:10.20 | brc007 | who's Mark Purcell |
08:10.23 | brc007 | <Death_INC> brc, I bet my hostmask can be bigger than yours in 60 seconds |
08:10.24 | brc007 | waiting |
08:10.26 | brc007 | and waiting |
08:10.29 | Death_INC | ùíù Death_lNC [~thanotos@my.hostmask.is.much.bigger.than.brc007s.hrd2gt.net] has joined #asterisk |
08:10.38 | Death_lNC | what you waiting for? |
08:10.41 | DarkFlib | cpc2-nfds2-5-0-cust135.nott.cable.ntl.com |
08:10.52 | brc007 | to uh |
08:10.53 | brc007 | go to sleep |
08:11.01 | Death_INC | so /whois death_lnc |
08:11.16 | DarkFlib | or my-hostmask-is-bigger-than-anyone-elses.technomonk.com |
08:11.31 | ManxPower | What's REALLY sad is that one of the biggest spammers in the world lives about 30 miles from me. |
08:11.53 | debaser | you should go distribute a beatdown |
08:12.19 | dov | even sadder, he's pro bably loaded |
08:12.26 | dov | yes? |
08:14.04 | debaser | i find it hard to believe that spamming could be really profitable |
08:14.18 | timecop | ok wtf |
08:14.21 | timecop | that didnt work |
08:14.38 | timecop | can someone please explain me why the fuck when I try to conference 2 calls over iax one of htem gets dropped almost immediately |
08:14.42 | brc007 | debaser: I do not |
08:14.48 | brc007 | talk to stupid people some time |
08:15.05 | brc007 | You'll believe it real quick |
08:15.14 | DarkFlib | debaser: if you send 10,000 emails and 20 buy something its profitable.... |
08:15.56 | timecop | HELLO |
08:15.58 | brc007 | even lower then that I'd guess |
08:16.03 | brc007 | GOODBYE TIMECOP |
08:16.18 | brc007 | :[ |
08:16.20 | brc007 | :p |
08:16.28 | DarkFlib | depends how you get your lists i suppose.... |
08:16.34 | ManxPower | My largest client had the company EMAIL DIRECTORY on their web page for a while. |
08:16.41 | debaser | i'd bet that the returns are less than one in a million |
08:16.43 | dov | wait till they start using voip for spam |
08:16.45 | DarkFlib | some people buy lists for massive amounts of oney reletively |
08:17.12 | ManxPower | timecop: run asterisk in debug mode and see if you can find anything to help you debug it |
08:17.14 | timecop | i want to know why the fuck I cant conference 2 calls over iax |
08:17.18 | brc007 | wtf is all the stuff they've added http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/asterisk/asterisk_0.9.0-2.diff.gz |
08:17.21 | timecop | ManxPower: I dont know. its running in -vvvv mode |
08:17.25 | timecop | i dont see any messages |
08:17.27 | timecop | it jsut gets fucking dropped |
08:17.28 | ManxPower | timecop: That's not debug |
08:17.30 | brc007 | very big....tired==read slow |
08:17.30 | timecop | iax debug doesnt help either |
08:17.35 | ManxPower | time "asterisk -cvvvddd" |
08:17.43 | brc007 | try -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvgc |
08:17.47 | brc007 | d? what's d do? |
08:17.52 | ManxPower | no, you need three d's |
08:17.53 | twisted | brc007, that many v's don't help you none |
08:17.59 | twisted | 3 d's == debug |
08:18.01 | brc007 | I know but it's soo cool |
08:18.01 | DarkFlib | easiest way to get around the voip for spam is to prefix your actual phone call with a 'press nn to get past our spam block' |
08:18.05 | ManxPower | brc007: "v" is verbosity level "d" is debug level |
08:18.06 | DarkFlib | and change nn each time |
08:18.13 | brc007 | and it's eaiser then typing 4v's |
08:18.16 | timecop | nope |
08:18.20 | timecop | May 22 17:23:30 WARNING[213006]: chan_iax2.c:2832 iax2_send: timestamp is 0? |
08:18.22 | brc007 | hrm okay |
08:18.22 | timecop | this is the only thing I see |
08:18.25 | timecop | thats any different |
08:18.31 | brc007 | what sorta info does d get you |
08:18.31 | timecop | then it hangs up |
08:18.35 | debaser | dov: yeah. thats why i'm really scared of unified messaging or whatever. |
08:18.44 | twisted | ManxPower, last i checked, you still gotta turn debug to console in logger.conf |
08:18.54 | debaser | the convergence of spam and telemarketing will be a sad day for humanity |
08:18.56 | brc007 | ahhha |
08:18.56 | timecop | anyway |
08:19.00 | timecop | how the hell can I debug this iax garbage |
08:19.08 | timecop | why would it drop |
08:19.11 | DarkFlib | I don't mind telling a human to fsck off if they spam.... but the worst thing is autmoated voip spam.... |
08:19.12 | debaser | timecop: with a shotgun |
08:19.15 | timecop | does iax randomly drop if theres not enough bandwidht? |
08:19.29 | debaser | yeah, but only for you. |
08:19.32 | twisted | haha |
08:19.36 | debaser | you see, it doesn't like you. |
08:19.36 | twisted | i'm waiting for automated video voip spam |
08:19.48 | ManxPower | twisted: not for me. |
08:19.51 | twisted | hahaha |
08:19.54 | ManxPower | timecop: What is your "show version"? |
08:20.01 | twisted | so you can see, hear, and read the fuck-porn in your inbox |
08:20.02 | ManxPower | timecop: No |
08:20.14 | timecop | ManxPower: todays cvs |
08:20.25 | debaser | automated video voip spam.. whenever i get that its gonna be for fucking nigerian money |
08:20.26 | timecop | its been doign this forever. |
08:20.30 | timecop | one channel works fine |
08:20.39 | debaser | because i just KNOW i'm not gonna get the porn kind |
08:20.39 | matthewa | just ask wififred to !call you over and over and over again |
08:20.41 | twisted | debaser, with some OBVIOUS set and some hired actor |
08:20.47 | ManxPower | tried dunno. I see only 2 reports of it on the mailig list. |
08:21.08 | timecop | of what |
08:21.11 | timecop | random iax2 disconnects? |
08:21.15 | dov | voip spam might be a good business to get into ;-) |
08:21.37 | dov | i can forget morals if there's enough money in it |
08:21.48 | ManxPower | timecop: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Alists.digium.com+%22timestamp+is+0%22&btnG=Search |
08:21.51 | brc007 | dov == evil |
08:21.58 | twisted | dat says a lot about your morals |
08:22.15 | twisted | and values |
08:22.20 | timecop | hm i wonder |
08:22.35 | timecop | i turned off loading of iax module on one of the machines |
08:22.37 | timecop | and it doesnt seem to drop |
08:22.38 | dov | sif you wouldn't get into it for the right price |
08:22.46 | dov | you're lying if you say you wouldn't |
08:22.52 | ManxPower | My biggest problem with turning to the Dark Side is that nobody would ever respect me again in my entire life. |
08:23.08 | timecop | hmm |
08:23.14 | timecop | now I can link 3 lines haha |
08:23.37 | timecop | hmm |
08:24.10 | timecop | hmm so turning off iax fixed it |
08:24.26 | timecop | but then again I thought same thing when i changed bandwidth from low to high |
08:24.58 | ManxPower | timecop: bandwith= only determines the default set of codecs to try, nothing else. |
08:25.15 | ManxPower | timecop: Everyone should have a noload => chan_iax2.so in their /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
08:25.20 | ManxPower | eek! |
08:25.22 | twisted | HAHAHAHAHAH |
08:25.24 | ManxPower | timecop: Everyone should have a noload => chan_iax1.so in their /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
08:25.30 | ManxPower | It's late |
08:25.34 | twisted | yeah |
08:25.36 | twisted | that's ok |
08:25.44 | twisted | i just admitted to listening to national pubic radio |
08:26.00 | debaser | a big ira glass fan? |
08:26.15 | twisted | no |
08:26.17 | twisted | i don't listen often |
08:26.31 | twisted | but i like prarie home companion |
08:26.37 | debaser | you should. npr is good for you. |
08:26.40 | debaser | heh, i was just gonna say that |
08:26.52 | timecop | nope |
08:26.55 | timecop | it still doesnt fucking wokr |
08:27.00 | timecop | it just randomly decides what to drop |
08:27.09 | timecop | it works for 4 calls hten drops hte 5th one |
08:27.11 | debaser | prarie home companion, car talk, what do you know, this american life. all amazing shows. |
08:27.37 | timecop | iax1 isnt built anymore nayway |
08:27.43 | timecop | at least it isnt in my modules dir |
08:27.47 | timecop | so turning that off had no effect |
08:27.48 | debaser | i'm sorry to hear that |
08:27.48 | brc007 | Raise your hand if you've heard the sample hold music "Thankyou for calling supermegasprockets inc, where all the men are beautiful, all the women are strong, and all the call volumes are above average" |
08:28.02 | debaser | i just hired a group of women who will be over to cry in your corner with you |
08:28.16 | twisted | haha |
08:28.28 | debaser | hahahah |
08:28.40 | twisted | don't ask why |
08:28.57 | matthewa | can a 5ESS do enum? |
08:29.01 | twisted | "Don't ask why, split them thighs" |
08:29.07 | twisted | uhh |
08:29.08 | twisted | dude |
08:29.15 | twisted | a 5ESS is a hard switch |
08:29.24 | matthewa | that has IP upgrade software available.. |
08:29.32 | brc007 | nobody? |
08:29.32 | brc007 | wow |
08:29.36 | matthewa | if I had one to play with i wouldn't ask such a naive question ;) |
08:29.38 | ManxPower | 5ESS tends to be about 10 years behind state of the art |
08:29.42 | matthewa | what' |
08:29.42 | brc007 | you guys suck |
08:29.43 | twisted | yeah |
08:29.44 | twisted | that too |
08:29.44 | matthewa | s current? |
08:29.45 | ManxPower | And ENUM is still experimental |
08:29.58 | matthewa | dude, the Internet is still experi-mental |
08:30.07 | twisted | it's mental alright |
08:30.29 | twisted | oh wait |
08:30.33 | matthewa | what do most of the big carriers use for their class 5 switches then? |
08:30.33 | twisted | that's just the people on it |
08:30.35 | twisted | n/m |
08:30.40 | matthewa | i can't see then upgrading very much |
08:30.48 | matthewa | aol or irc? |
08:30.50 | twisted | matthewa, qwest uses * |
08:30.54 | debaser | i'm currently doing graduate-level research on the implementation of enum on tin-can-and-string technology. |
08:30.57 | twisted | so does AT&T |
08:31.08 | twisted | there are only 2 5ESS' left on the planet |
08:31.12 | ManxPower | 5ESS, DMS100, and what's the other one? |
08:31.13 | matthewa | your not funny |
08:31.22 | twisted | one in england, the other in zimbabwe |
08:31.45 | debaser | twisted: naw, i'm sure ameritech still have a bunch in use |
08:31.47 | IOscanner | Doh...I got MeetMe to work with its auth. |
08:31.48 | brc007 | twisted you're funny |
08:31.50 | DarkFlib | how does a tin can implement dtmf? |
08:31.54 | twisted | debaser, just joke |
08:31.58 | twisted | wtf happened to my a |
08:32.02 | matthewa | darklib: whistle harder. |
08:32.07 | brc007 | with tuned forks DarkFlib |
08:32.08 | brc007 | DUH |
08:32.08 | DarkFlib | ahhh... |
08:32.25 | twisted | DarkFlib, i can speak dtmf |
08:32.29 | twisted | i can also listen and translate |
08:32.29 | IOscanner | the cisco phone must be set to inband. I also have a grandstream phone that needs to be also. The wisip doesn't |
08:32.37 | twisted | and that's no joke |
08:32.40 | DarkFlib | off hook indication? |
08:32.49 | brc007 | wtf h ppened to my ? |
08:32.53 | debaser | DarkFlib: its very challenging research |
08:33.05 | DarkFlib | I think so too.... |
08:33.12 | Chayewala | I am trying to send DTMF tones using RFC2833 from a GS BT100 |
08:33.18 | Chayewala | but it does not work |
08:33.24 | DarkFlib | chan_canandstring |
08:33.34 | twisted | hahaha |
08:33.42 | IOscanner | Try inband and see if that works. |
08:33.45 | twisted | i thought chan_canandstring was replaced with chan_oss |
08:34.05 | twisted | or rather, renamed |
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08:34.20 | IOscanner | I have the same phone I had to change the sip.conf for that line to inband and it worked. |
08:34.21 | Chayewala | I have configured GSBT100 with RFC2833 and have defined it in sip.conf but it does not work |
08:34.21 | ManxPower | Reject: Your subject had too many subsequent spaces. Please change the subject and try again. |
08:34.33 | IOscanner | It sees the commands but something is not right. |
08:34.47 | ManxPower | Chayewala: What happens? |
08:35.08 | ManxPower | IOscanner: Inband DTMF ONLY works well with the ulaw and alaw codecs. |
08:35.19 | twisted | my bt102 works fine with rfc2833 |
08:35.21 | Chayewala | Is (RFC2833 inband? |
08:35.23 | twisted | but i'm using g729 :P |
08:35.34 | twisted | Chayewala, no |
08:35.38 | Chayewala | so |
08:35.40 | Chayewala | ? |
08:35.58 | Chayewala | why even mention G711u and G711a in this case? |
08:36.09 | ManxPower | Chayewala: I was talking to IOscanner |
08:36.13 | suma | anyone knows how much is the termination prices with nufone.net ? |
08:36.15 | IOscanner | I am using G711u |
08:36.20 | timecop | this fucking sucks |
08:36.21 | twisted | suma, 2.9c/min |
08:36.22 | debaser | because if you were using g711 you could just say fuck it, use inband, and not worry |
08:36.27 | suma | or can i find it online ? |
08:36.33 | twisted | suma, 2.9c/min us48 |
08:36.33 | ManxPower | Chayewala: Some versions of the GS firmware requires you set the mode to INFO or you get doubled digits |
08:36.40 | suma | i want for other destinations too |
08:36.44 | twisted | ahh |
08:36.58 | ManxPower | suma: You have to contact Nufone for rates other than to the USA |
08:37.03 | Chayewala | I am not getting any digits |
08:37.04 | IOscanner | Chayewala what codec are you using? |
08:37.04 | twisted | email sales@nufone.net with a rate request... we'll send you a rate sheet |
08:37.17 | Chayewala | twisted - are you with Nufone? |
08:37.30 | suma | thanks twisted |
08:37.32 | twisted | Chayewala, to an extent, yes |
08:37.40 | Chayewala | ok - kewl |
08:37.51 | Chayewala | now my DTMF TOMES |
08:37.55 | Chayewala | what should I do ? |
08:38.09 | twisted | well, if you're using dtmf TOMES, you got a problem :P |
08:38.19 | twisted | (sorry, i've been awake WAAAAY too long) |
08:38.28 | debaser | try your final option. the one that isn't =rfc2833 or =inband |
08:38.41 | twisted | Chayewala, try info |
08:38.51 | twisted | sip info on bt100 series also works like champ |
08:39.22 | twisted | wtf happened to my a? |
08:39.43 | ManxPower | twisted: It's next to your coffee cup. |
08:39.51 | twisted | ahh |
08:39.51 | twisted | thx |
08:39.54 | foobos | the rfc2833 works also well on recent fw:s.. atleast on .55 and .68 i tried |
08:39.58 | ManxPower | Alternative answer: Your's sitting on it, silly! |
08:40.09 | twisted | ManxPower, that would be my arse, and yes, this is true |
08:40.52 | twisted | GotoIf($[a = arse]2:3) |
08:41.30 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
08:41.37 | twisted | no |
08:41.41 | twisted | because a is not a variable |
08:41.47 | ManxPower | Oh! OK. |
08:42.09 | twisted | haha |
08:42.12 | suma | what is the command to see list of applications ? |
08:42.22 | twisted | show applications... maybe.. :P |
08:42.45 | twisted | whoa |
08:42.50 | suma | works |
08:42.50 | twisted | holy shit |
08:42.56 | twisted | kram fell offline |
08:42.59 | twisted | there's a new one |
08:43.27 | Chayewala | foobos : where can I get .68 ? |
08:43.44 | foobos | chayewala, hellofone.com support-downloads |
08:44.12 | Chayewala | is that for BT 100 or for the HandyTone? |
08:44.13 | twisted | foobos, noo.. he can use my pay-per-use tftp server! |
08:44.17 | Chayewala | or is it same for both? |
08:44.34 | foobos | Chayewala, no idea. i used it on BT 100s |
08:44.49 | foobos | twisted, oh you have tftp with coinslot? |
08:44.53 | twisted | foobos, yah |
08:44.57 | foobos | cool |
08:45.03 | twisted | coinslot @ toastido@toastido.net via paypal |
08:45.20 | Chayewala | ok |
08:45.23 | twisted | drop in 10$ worth of quarters, and you get sent back an email with the tftp server info |
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08:46.29 | twisted | the kewl thing is |
08:46.53 | twisted | i have 7905G sip firmware there, bt100 series latest firmware, ht286 latest firmware... i think you get the drift |
08:46.54 | twisted | oh yea |
08:47.03 | twisted | and TONS of ringtones for 79X0's |
08:48.55 | Death_INC | hmm |
08:48.59 | Death_INC | 14400 seconds heh |
08:49.05 | twisted | yeah |
08:49.06 | Death_INC | is that 14400baud? |
08:49.10 | twisted | heh |
08:49.14 | twisted | 14400 bps |
08:49.25 | debaser | 40 quarters = 14400 seconds? |
08:49.37 | twisted | 40 quarters == 10$ |
08:49.45 | twisted | 10$ makes me smile |
08:50.17 | suma | is festival recommended to use with asterisk or does it reduces the performance of asterisk ? |
08:50.21 | debaser | i need to go to sleep within the next hour or so =[ |
08:50.25 | Death_INC | time is money, money is the root of all evil, therefore 14400seconds = evil |
08:50.53 | debaser | every man needs his roots |
08:51.39 | Death_INC | suma, festival is pretty intensive... I'd execute it to generate the answers then save them... |
08:52.01 | suma | mm .. |
08:52.08 | foobos | yeah. and the damn festival doesn't speak finnish :) |
08:52.35 | debaser | if you can record the answers and use them please oh please just find someone who liked musical theater in highschool and stick them in front of a microphone |
08:53.08 | Death_INC | oh there is a halfways decent voice in festival |
08:53.17 | Death_INC | pain to find tho |
08:53.23 | Death_INC | it's a cmu voice or something I forget |
08:54.06 | Death_INC | cmu_us_slt_arctic_hts.tar.gz |
08:54.09 | Death_INC | that one |
08:54.21 | Death_INC | the rest are simply awful |
08:54.22 | debaser | pretty much all tts apps ive heard (with the exception of spheechify or whatever its called) is just so grating |
08:54.22 | twisted | arctic hits? |
08:54.38 | Death_INC | I dont remember where I found it |
08:54.41 | Death_INC | but google should |
08:54.45 | debaser | you can barely understand it, and listening that close just hurts |
08:54.46 | Death_INC | ~google cmu_us_slt_arctic_hts |
08:54.48 | Chayewala | twisted - do you also have the encryption utility for BT configuration etc? |
08:55.10 | twisted | Chayewala, no, that's something you have to buy from GS for like $1000000000000 |
08:55.53 | Death_INC | http://hts.ics.nitech.ac.jp/ :) |
08:56.03 | debaser | but, seriously, be nice to people that you trap in your ivr.. get a human to record the prompts |
08:56.25 | twisted | hahaha |
08:56.27 | twisted | no be evil |
08:56.38 | twisted | get william shatner to record your prompts |
08:56.47 | twisted | and make your hold music leonard nemoy singing |
08:56.49 | debaser | that would be awesome. |
08:56.57 | debaser | or myron cope |
08:57.02 | twisted | haha |
08:57.42 | Death_INC | oh god |
08:57.54 | ManxPower | twisted: For telemarketers you could do the reverse. |
08:57.58 | twisted | LOL |
08:58.22 | twisted | for...marketing... press one. for technical.....support......press 2. |
08:58.52 | twisted | to hear leonard sing...the blues.... press....three. |
08:58.57 | Chayewala | I updated to .68 |
08:59.00 | debaser | definately use 8k sample festival tts for your telemarketer hell scripts |
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08:59.11 | Chayewala | now it shows :Program--1.0.4.68 |
08:59.15 | Chayewala | but no luck |
08:59.19 | Chayewala | so it is not the phone |
08:59.22 | debaser | find some way to pass them through a filter so it sounds like its on shortwave radio too |
08:59.29 | twisted | Chayewala, use info |
08:59.29 | Chayewala | I have selected RFC2833 in the phone |
08:59.36 | Chayewala | ok let me try |
08:59.42 | twisted | dtmfmode=info |
08:59.49 | twisted | and sip info for dtmf mode on the phone |
08:59.54 | Chayewala | ok |
09:00.32 | Chayewala | I thought that rfc2833 support was pretty robust. |
09:00.37 | Chayewala | had worked for me before |
09:00.52 | Chayewala | did I mention that I upgraded to latest CVS just moments ago? |
09:01.09 | debaser | i think its all just a crap shoot in general |
09:01.22 | twisted | wheee |
09:01.23 | twisted | i'm delerious |
09:01.28 | twisted | and losing my balance |
09:01.31 | twisted | maybe it's time to go to bed |
09:01.37 | debaser | yeah, me too. starting to hallucinate |
09:01.46 | twisted | i'm losing my balance sitting on the floor |
09:01.47 | debaser | i honestly can't remember the last time i went to sleep |
09:01.47 | twisted | go figure |
09:02.11 | debaser | i think it was tuesday afternoon |
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09:03.12 | ac931274 | Does anybody know how to generate the ring?.bin for the grandstreams yet? |
09:03.16 | suma | sipura 3000 is best for sip |
09:03.25 | suma | anyon tried that ? |
09:03.29 | twisted | hahaha |
09:03.36 | twisted | Death_INC, that's sickening |
09:03.37 | foobos | Chayewala, i'm using 14. May CVS-HEAD with BT100 and rfc2833 dtmf works |
09:03.38 | Death_INC | lol |
09:03.45 | Death_INC | it's the best voice for festival tho |
09:03.56 | Death_INC | that I ever saw |
09:04.04 | Death_INC | er, heard |
09:04.38 | twisted | haha |
09:05.20 | Death_INC | I should redo all the * prompts in that voice and post it somewhere *grin* |
09:05.31 | Death_INC | use this if you don't like your users! |
09:05.36 | twisted | haha |
09:05.40 | twisted | don't like is being polite |
09:05.46 | twisted | use this if you HATE your users. |
09:07.06 | debaser | is there much interest alternate * voice sets? |
09:08.16 | twisted | cvs co asterisk-shatner-sounds |
09:08.27 | debaser | twisted: i'll pitch on that |
09:08.37 | twisted | hehe |
09:08.53 | debaser | but its gotta be wacked out mr tamborineman man william shatner |
09:08.55 | twisted | that would be a trip |
09:08.59 | twisted | hahahaha |
09:09.03 | debaser | not the somewhat sedate priceline william shatner |
09:09.04 | twisted | yeah |
09:09.06 | twisted | of course |
09:09.11 | twisted | somewhat sedate? |
09:09.17 | twisted | he sounds like he's asleep |
09:09.23 | Death_INC | twisted, almost dont :b thx perl and sounds.txt |
09:09.36 | Death_INC | er, done |
09:09.51 | twisted | Death_INC, oh god |
09:10.07 | Death_INC | hahaha |
09:10.12 | twisted | well |
09:10.18 | twisted | i'm gonna go pass out finally |
09:10.19 | Death_INC | beep.gsm is recorded as "this is a simple beep tone" |
09:10.27 | twisted | hahahaha |
09:10.47 | twisted | please leave your message after the tone ... this is a simple beep tone |
09:11.18 | Death_INC | hahaha |
09:11.30 | Death_INC | I'm going to leave that rofl |
09:11.34 | twisted | hehehe |
09:11.37 | debaser | 'please leave your message once you're sure my phone has hung up on you' |
09:11.45 | twisted | well |
09:11.49 | twisted | time for sleepy time |
09:11.51 | twisted | err |
09:11.52 | twisted | yeah |
09:12.06 | debaser | g'night |
09:12.11 | twisted | nite |
09:12.21 | Death_INC | it says login as "logan" |
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09:14.39 | twisted | err |
09:14.39 | twisted | no |
09:14.57 | debaser | heh |
09:15.11 | Death_INC | you gotta hear the beep tone... |
09:15.17 | twisted | send me it |
09:15.19 | twisted | i'll listen |
09:15.20 | debaser | thats the only reason why i'm not in bed yet |
09:15.26 | Death_INC | lol |
09:15.27 | debaser | smoke the nights last cig. |
09:15.41 | debaser | (of coarse i'll probably sleep 18-24 hours) |
09:15.49 | twisted | hahaha |
09:15.55 | twisted | she sounds like my 8th grade english teacher |
09:16.03 | Death_INC | this is like, ironic |
09:16.20 | Death_INC | that WOULD make people kill themselves |
09:16.37 | Death_INC | I can just imagine hearing that on hold |
09:16.43 | debaser | ben stein would be a cool voice actor |
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09:17.38 | twisted | daamn arts |
09:17.51 | twisted | ok |
09:17.54 | debaser | art who? art doesn't live here anymore. |
09:17.57 | twisted | that wasn't that bad |
09:18.21 | twisted | now record the supermegasprocketsinc |
09:18.55 | Moc__ | yea bed time... just need to put the laptop aside |
09:19.25 | twisted | "thank you for calling supermegasprocketsinc, where all the men are beautiful, all the women are strong, and all the call volumes are above average. Now I know what you're thinking. Why are we putting you on hold? Well, your call is not important enough for us to hire more people to man the phones....etc.." |
09:19.28 | Death_INC | hmm, is it listed in sounds.txt? |
09:20.12 | twisted | no |
09:20.19 | Death_INC | bah I have to type? |
09:20.24 | twisted | but you can get the script from phc |
09:21.08 | Death_INC | phc? |
09:21.30 | twisted | prarie home companion |
09:21.45 | twisted | or howevere the fuck you spell it |
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09:22.35 | twisted | oh well |
09:22.40 | twisted | cigarette's done |
09:22.44 | twisted | beddie bye time |
09:22.47 | twisted | g'nite again |
09:23.00 | debaser | i'd like to have ivr functionality that just dumped the caller into a channel with garrison keiller reading short stories |
09:23.02 | Death_INC | bah I cant find it on google |
09:25.29 | debaser | yeah, i'm gonna wash up a bit then go into a coma for a day or two |
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09:29.04 | Death_INC | arg all that and it screwed up recording it heh, maybe on second try |
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