| 00:00.00 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:00.05 | bkw_ | thats all going to change |
| 00:01.18 | file[teal | mmm |
| 00:01.29 | file[teal | I need to start over |
| 00:01.47 | Darwin35 | no |
| 00:01.55 | coppice | is bugs.diigium.com buggy? I get the login page, but get a blank page when I try to list some bugs |
| 00:01.57 | Darwin35 | some of us like solaris and Freebsd |
| 00:02.14 | file[teal | true |
| 00:04.51 | file[teal | there, much cleaner |
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| 00:13.14 | l-fy | hi FuzzyCat |
| 00:13.21 | l-fy | FuzzyCat > let's chat |
| 00:14.24 | dnc | hah |
| 00:14.31 | dnc | sorry, thats pretty funny |
| 00:14.39 | dnc | his network connection is fucked |
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| 00:16.22 | l-fy | well |
| 00:17.33 | file[teal | there, db1-ast is fixed for Win32 |
| 00:17.45 | file[teal | well, almost |
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| 00:28.23 | JerJer | dnc: no that's a good tactic |
| 00:28.26 | JerJer | not to chat |
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| 00:28.53 | dnc | am i supposed to reply to that, or am i supposed to pull out my network cable ;) |
| 00:29.06 | Adam_ | jerjer, could I get a beta copy of your new H.323 channel driver please? |
| 00:29.24 | YoYo^ | when dialing out on a PRI, which is busy +1 and congestion +101? |
| 00:29.26 | JerJer | its not beta |
| 00:29.52 | YoYo^ | or can asterisk differentiate between busy and reorder? |
| 00:29.54 | file[teal | more like alpha? |
| 00:30.01 | Adam_ | can I try it regardless? |
| 00:30.15 | JerJer | it doens't do anything real yet |
| 00:30.20 | JerJer | i haven't tied in the RTP yet |
| 00:30.24 | debaser | why not use sip? =] |
| 00:30.32 | ManxPower | YoYo: ${CAUSECODE} Would you like a sample PRI dialplan for busy, congestion, disconnected, etc? |
| 00:30.40 | Adam_ | ok, np |
| 00:31.31 | dnc | debaser: a choice between h323 and SIP, i'll take IAX anyday ;) |
| 00:31.34 | YoYo^ | Manx: that would be awesome. thanks |
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| 00:31.48 | debaser | dnc: yeah, that goes without saying |
| 00:32.12 | ManxPower | YoYo: http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/downloads/extensions.conf.causecode |
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| 00:35.02 | uhuiiks | help pls |
| 00:35.51 | JerJer | help yourself by asking a question |
| 00:36.06 | bkw_ | and atleast saying HI before you start yelling for help :P |
| 00:36.43 | bkw_ | YoYo you get everything setup/ |
| 00:37.07 | uhuiiks | bkw_: HI |
| 00:37.12 | uhuiiks | :) |
| 00:37.22 | ManxPower | YoYo: Fixed a bug in priorities, reload the document. |
| 00:38.24 | YoYo^ | explain this to me... |
| 00:38.24 | YoYo^ | exten => s,1,NoOp(HANGUPCAUSE=${HANGUPCAUSE}) |
| 00:38.31 | uhuiiks | why i get error : unknown host when i tried download mpg123? |
| 00:38.31 | YoYo^ | why you not using SetVar() there? |
| 00:39.10 | ManxPower | YoYo: Because all I want is to see on the console what the causecode was. |
| 00:39.17 | YoYo^ | ah |
| 00:39.18 | YoYo^ | I see |
| 00:39.25 | file[teal | ast_expr is giving me the darn trouble |
| 00:39.26 | file[teal | gah |
| 00:39.52 | bkw_ | Secure IAX aka SEX |
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| 00:40.06 | YoYo^ | Manx: and your Dial() always goes to 2, and never to 102? |
| 00:40.40 | ManxPower | YoYo: If there is no 102 then it will go to 2 |
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| 00:41.01 | YoYo^ | interesting behavior |
| 00:41.41 | roma | excuse the stupid questions. what type of hardware would people recommend for a small office to have voice mail and intercom, no voip? |
| 00:41.42 | file[teal | why must ast_expr be such a pita? |
| 00:41.53 | YoYo^ | oh, bkw, yes, I've got everything set up |
| 00:41.58 | bkw_ | kewl |
| 00:43.04 | ManxPower | roma: Intercom is really only supported in high end VoIP phones. |
| 00:43.26 | ManxPower | If you can do without intercom, then the TDM400P + modules will be good for small values of "small" |
| 00:44.01 | roma | I need intercom. what would you recommend for that? |
| 00:44.12 | dedd | ManxPower: wouldn't a 2 line softphone w/ 1 set to autoanswer work? |
| 00:44.47 | *** join/#asterisk Umaro (~Umaro@c-67-171-169-213.client.comcast.net) |
| 00:44.49 | Umaro | Hey guys |
| 00:44.54 | l-fy | hey Umaro |
| 00:44.57 | l-fy | i'm a girl :> |
| 00:44.58 | ManxPower | dedd: He said "no voip" |
| 00:45.04 | Umaro | l-fy, yeah right |
| 00:45.20 | l-fy | Umaro > i really am :) |
| 00:45.21 | Umaro | l-fy, girls don't dig asterisk. |
| 00:45.23 | ManxPower | dedd: Are there softphones that support autoanswer? Since SoftPhones are the Spawn Of Satan I don't know a lot about them. |
| 00:45.53 | roma | I suppose I could do local voip? |
| 00:45.55 | file[teal | this does not like quad_t |
| 00:45.55 | Umaro | Does anyone here have a home * server setup to dial through their work * server? |
| 00:46.07 | roma | sorry, I am just looking into asterix and others |
| 00:46.08 | dedd | ManxPower: i took that analog lines in then how the internal office is configured is a decision roma has to make for himself |
| 00:46.25 | ManxPower | roma: Cisco 7940 or 7960 phones, they run $250 - $350 each (used) |
| 00:46.35 | Umaro | eh, back later. |
| 00:47.00 | roma | ok. what about voip interoffice? would that be cheaper |
| 00:47.04 | ManxPower | roma: Really "intercom" is generally only supported by closed systems. |
| 00:47.50 | roma | really? |
| 00:48.54 | YoYo^ | ok, now I needs some invalid numbers to test with =D |
| 00:50.34 | bkw_ | 7940/60's support autoanswer intercom |
| 00:50.51 | DarkFlib | Couldn't two soundcards be used as an intercom using the console driver and some logic? |
| 00:51.08 | bkw_ | we are talking phone to phone intercom |
| 00:51.16 | DarkFlib | ahhh.... |
| 00:51.39 | roma | yeah, phone-to-phone |
| 00:53.54 | file[teal | ast_expr needs to die |
| 00:55.23 | *** part/#asterisk Kenneth (~ksc@63.105.129.25) |
| 00:55.26 | derek_d | if asterisk is installed on a linux box doing NAT for a network can it do proxy the RTP stream for sip phones behind it calling out to the internet? |
| 00:56.30 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:56.34 | bkw_ | not really |
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| 00:57.21 | derek_d | so i need to run something like the nat helper that comes with SER? |
| 00:58.05 | file[teal | I just love it when I break stuff |
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| 00:59.26 | Jackfiber | hello, which one is better for phone ext SIP or IAX ? |
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| 01:00.34 | bkw_ | haha I got religious spam to my cellphone |
| 01:00.39 | YoYo^ | Jackfiber, depends on the application, technology, and specific product you are using |
| 01:00.56 | Jackfiber | using Asterisk and softphones |
| 01:01.09 | YoYo^ | softphones == evil |
| 01:01.15 | Jackfiber | can use both SIP and IAX but what is preferred due to functionality |
| 01:01.18 | YoYo^ | get some real phones and try your call again |
| 01:01.39 | Jackfiber | currently using snom 220 :) |
| 01:01.52 | Jackfiber | but some extensions need to be softphone |
| 01:02.13 | Jackfiber | for softphone which one is preferred IAX or SIP ? |
| 01:04.24 | sipper | Jackfiber: the best sip softphone I've used is x-lite from xten.. but you need a good headset |
| 01:05.24 | l-fy | hey sipper |
| 01:05.31 | l-fy | i have try to reach you :) |
| 01:05.33 | file[teal | I broke my cygwin, I rock... no really! |
| 01:05.40 | derek_d | every softphone i've tried sucks, and i've tried many |
| 01:05.54 | sipper | l-fy: how's it going? |
| 01:06.12 | l-fy | sipper > can we meet tomorrow morning to solve your problem? |
| 01:06.38 | sipper | l-fy: sure |
| 01:06.46 | Jackfiber | sipper I agree with u because I've used x-lite for a while |
| 01:07.15 | Jackfiber | but what about IAX is that fine for phones, I used IAX only for * to * connections |
| 01:07.25 | l-fy | sipper > i'm very tierd right now and i wanna go to sleep |
| 01:07.58 | JerJer | l-fy: then leave us alone |
| 01:08.31 | file[teal | there... all fixed |
| 01:08.57 | l-fy | JerJer > i love you |
| 01:09.39 | file[teal | bkw_: if I get this working - what do I get? ;) |
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| 01:10.22 | YoYo^ | file, get what working? * on cygwin? |
| 01:10.40 | Corydon76-home | file: you get a BJ |
| 01:10.46 | bkw_ | file ya what Corydon said |
| 01:10.55 | file[teal | bah |
| 01:11.05 | bkw_ | then you need to get zaptel too |
| 01:11.12 | bkw_ | and x100p boi |
| 01:11.21 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:11.21 | file[teal | now that would be scary |
| 01:11.26 | file[teal | oh, it's close. |
| 01:11.30 | Corydon76-home | Dear god, a young boy declining a BJ. Next thing you know he'll be castrated |
| 01:11.39 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:11.47 | Corydon76-home | voluntarily |
| 01:12.45 | BoRiS | to even offer is so nice of you! |
| 01:12.47 | sipper | Any reason why Notify messages get sent to NOTIFY sip:IPADDRESS instead of NOTIFY sip:USER@IPADDRESS |
| 01:12.56 | JerJer | man i want some google IPO |
| 01:14.05 | Corydon76-home | BoRiS: yeah, especially since I'm so good at it... |
| 01:14.43 | BoRiS | Really??? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. <g> |
| 01:15.01 | Corydon76-home | Heh, planning a trip? |
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| 01:18.05 | bkw_ | if you would have just let Corydon give you that BJ |
| 01:18.29 | file[teal | bkw_: I'm going to knock you unconcious with asterisk.exe |
| 01:19.04 | Corydon76-home | file: you DO realize that you aren't limited to 9 chars on this server, don't you? |
| 01:19.22 | file[teal | this is BitchX, it's not that smart |
| 01:19.28 | file[tealc] | tada |
| 01:20.01 | Corydon76-home | Just another reason to run sirc, not BitchX |
| 01:20.40 | bkw_ | BitchX rocks |
| 01:20.44 | roma | I think, xchat if you have X |
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| 01:20.50 | roma | xchat-text sucks |
| 01:21.00 | Corydon76-home | KSirc if you have X |
| 01:21.04 | clh | can anyone recommend a good test tool...call generators and whatnot |
| 01:21.11 | clh | call flow analyzers |
| 01:21.23 | vmedrano | try sipP |
| 01:21.27 | clh | k |
| 01:21.30 | clh | any otheres? |
| 01:21.38 | clh | trying to develop a testbed of available test tools |
| 01:21.55 | Corydon76-home | I'm surprised, bkw_. As a Perl programmer, you should latch onto sirc. |
| 01:22.47 | bkw_ | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 01:22.47 | bkw_ | no |
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| 01:34.09 | file[tealc] | ast_expr... is fixed for win32 |
| 01:39.31 | file[tealc] | my cygwin install is broken, I need to fix it before I continue |
| 01:40.43 | *** part/#asterisk Adam_ (~Adam@frogger.teragen.com.au) |
| 01:41.28 | vmedrano | agi application = big one? where ? |
| 01:42.08 | bkw_ | ssfffasdfasdf |
| 01:42.12 | file[tealc] | O.o |
| 01:43.20 | Corydon76-home | Ewww, why are you using Cygwin to run Asterisk? |
| 01:43.34 | file[tealc] | Corydon76-home: michael asked if asterisk could be run on win32 |
| 01:43.42 | file[tealc] | I said give me a few hours |
| 01:47.05 | DarkFlib | just a quickie.... whats an rj21 connector used for? |
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| 01:51.26 | bkw_ | file does it work yet? |
| 01:51.37 | file | bkw_: I have to reinstall my cygwin, I toasted it |
| 01:51.40 | file | but it's getting there |
| 01:51.51 | bkw_ | riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight |
| 01:51.53 | file | I need to fix editline |
| 01:53.52 | BoRiS | yeah :) |
| 01:54.23 | JohnA | um silly question |
| 01:54.27 | DarkFlib | should I take that as noone knows or noone is bothered to answer me? |
| 01:54.33 | file | DarkFlib: Ethernet |
| 01:54.43 | JohnA | for a stable implementation, should i be using 0.9 or 1.0 CVS? |
| 01:54.43 | DarkFlib | ethernet is rj45 isn't it? |
| 01:54.44 | JerJer | rj-21 is like 6 wire i think |
| 01:54.55 | JohnA | that would be rj-11 |
| 01:55.06 | JerJer | rj-11 is four wire |
| 01:55.10 | JohnA | rj45 is a connector type that can be used for ethernet networks |
| 01:55.28 | JerJer | ~google rj-21 |
| 01:55.30 | seesik | does anyone know if there are any active predictive dialing projects for asterisk? |
| 01:55.33 | JohnA | it can be 4 or 6 |
| 01:55.44 | DarkFlib | thats what i thought....considering my cromp tool only does rj11 and rj45... ie phone and ehternet |
| 01:55.57 | DarkFlib | i tried google... |
| 01:56.08 | JohnA | rj22 is like a small rj11 for 4 wires |
| 01:56.10 | DarkFlib | its mentioned on a lot of specs...but not what it is |
| 01:56.11 | file[tealc] | ooh cygwin install is almost fixed |
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| 02:07.31 | ManxPower | Useful Asterisk Docs (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unofficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ (my site) and http://asteriskdocs.org/ |
| 02:07.35 | ManxPower | To search the Asterisk mailing list archive go to www.google.com and put site:lists.digium.com in addition to your other query terms. |
| 02:08.21 | DarkFlib | we have docs? |
| 02:08.24 | DarkFlib | wow.... |
| 02:08.35 | JohnA | i shouldn't get too exited |
| 02:08.38 | DarkFlib | :P |
| 02:08.43 | kashmish | when i connect the phone output of my ata to the phone cabling in my house, i guess i overlook something when i expect a phone to ring that's connected to the same line somewhere in the house?? |
| 02:08.48 | ManxPower | file[tealc]: What did the guy ever do to you to make you want to get his hopes up only to be destroyed when he realizes the real picture |
| 02:09.31 | JohnA | kash: do you know if you need a capacitor inline to provide the ring? |
| 02:09.43 | kashmish | john ;-) |
| 02:09.47 | kashmish | no idea! |
| 02:09.57 | JohnA | depends what country the phone came from |
| 02:09.59 | kashmish | what do i have to look at? |
| 02:10.14 | JohnA | i only say it because UK phones don't have a ringing capacitor in them, you need a line adapter to provide it |
| 02:10.15 | DarkFlib | a search for "ring capacitor" might be beneficial |
| 02:10.16 | kashmish | it's all from best buy in virginia usa ;-) |
| 02:10.23 | JohnA | should be fine then |
| 02:10.35 | kashmish | i see.. |
| 02:10.38 | twisted | kash: did you disconnect the external wiring first? |
| 02:10.54 | JohnA | assuming you got your cabling right :) |
| 02:10.54 | twisted | ie battery from the co? |
| 02:11.03 | kashmish | twisted: no, it's all still connected... but there is no signal anymore... |
| 02:11.10 | twisted | congratulations |
| 02:11.13 | kashmish | would that be the prob? |
| 02:11.16 | twisted | you just backfed current into your ata, and possibly fried it |
| 02:11.33 | kashmish | i am extremely illeterate when it comes to phones |
| 02:11.39 | kashmish | the ata still works |
| 02:11.48 | JerJer | it should be fine unless it ran |
| 02:11.48 | twisted | disconnect the lines from the CO first |
| 02:11.49 | kashmish | when i connect a phone directly to it |
| 02:11.50 | JerJer | rang |
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| 02:11.52 | twisted | JerJer, true |
| 02:11.59 | file | ManxPower: toast |
| 02:11.59 | twisted | thus the "possibly" |
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| 02:12.16 | SwK | kashmish: whats he's trying to say is just cause you dont get dial tone, it doesnt mean that bell actually disconnected the wires from their w~switch... it just means they disabled the port... you need to make sure its completely disconnected from their gear |
| 02:12.21 | kashmish | cool, so i'll try to find where they connect |
| 02:12.32 | twisted | kashmish, there should be a grey box on the outside of the house |
| 02:12.37 | twisted | or in the garage/basement |
| 02:12.39 | kashmish | swk: thx! i didnt now |
| 02:12.44 | file | I keep breaking my cygwin |
| 02:12.46 | twisted | if you open that box |
| 02:12.47 | SwK | kashmish: that little grey box ont he side of your house is a good palce to start |
| 02:12.48 | bkw_ | HAHAHA |
| 02:12.49 | kashmish | twisted: thx, it's the grey box outside! |
| 02:12.59 | twisted | kashmish, there may be a simple rj11 disconnect |
| 02:13.02 | kashmish | yup, great! thx, will do it now :-) |
| 02:13.03 | bkw_ | "A big fat lie is 'I wont cum in your mouth'" |
| 02:13.05 | twisted | if you unplug it, you're done ;) |
| 02:13.10 | kashmish | i believe so :-) |
| 02:13.13 | kashmish | thx again!!! |
| 02:13.14 | twisted | bkw_, HAHAHAHHA |
| 02:13.21 | SwK | kashmish: if that doesnt~'t work, a cutting torch usually will |
| 02:13.31 | twisted | kashmish, youre welcome... feel free to donate to my paypal account ;) toastido@toastido.net |
| 02:13.43 | twisted | every little bit helps |
| 02:13.43 | twisted | :P |
| 02:13.51 | twisted | and on that note - i'm off like a prom dress |
| 02:14.18 | SwK | bkw_: havent you ever heard the song "3 biggest lies"... "this will only hurt for a little while, I'll only put the head of it in, and I promise I will never ever cum in your mouth" |
| 02:14.48 | SwK | I think its like a david allen coe song |
| 02:14.52 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:20.43 | file | bkw_: how goes your optimizations? |
| 02:21.17 | bkw_ | "Show me on the doll where the bad man touched you?" |
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| 02:26.18 | kashmish | thx again guys!! worked fine, all multo bene now :-D |
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| 02:27.28 | twisted | kashmish, np :) |
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| 02:28.31 | bkw_ | I want to see cRTP |
| 02:28.34 | bkw_ | who wants that? |
| 02:28.48 | bkw_ | out? |
| 02:28.50 | bkw_ | since when? |
| 02:31.35 | Carp | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.40 | Carp | whats up with that? |
| 02:34.31 | YoYo^ | oh cool |
| 02:34.31 | YoYo^ | http://www.psknet.com/pbx/ |
| 02:35.10 | Carp | www.doreo.com www.nufone.net |
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| 02:40.21 | Poemius | hello allo |
| 02:40.28 | Poemius | allo = all :) |
| 02:40.38 | Poemius | but I guess it works out this way too :) |
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| 02:43.05 | file[tealc] | once I fix editline... this SHOULD compile |
| 02:44.16 | file[tealc] | hi kram |
| 02:44.20 | kram | hi file |
| 02:44.44 | file[tealc] | what's up? |
| 02:44.55 | bkw_ | ACK |
| 02:45.13 | file[tealc] | SYN! |
| 02:45.35 | derek_d | RST |
| 02:47.27 | kram | i'm working on bug 1660 |
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| 02:48.25 | bkw_ | ;) |
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| 02:49.07 | file[tealc] | goody |
| 02:49.14 | bkw_ | file you get it working |
| 02:49.23 | bkw_ | kram file is trying to compile asterisk under cygwin |
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| 02:49.38 | sipper | is there any code yet for ast_data? if so where can I find it? |
| 02:49.52 | chapster | file is a brave man... |
| 02:49.54 | Moc_ | lol |
| 02:50.04 | kram | does windows have poll? |
| 02:50.07 | file[tealc] | asterisk compiles |
| 02:50.12 | file[tealc] | it's just editline that doesn't |
| 02:50.18 | bkw_ | kram yes it as a poll up its ass.. thats why it runs lop sided |
| 02:50.24 | bkw_ | :) |
| 02:50.40 | kram | it's too bad april 1 has already passed |
| 02:51.09 | bkw_ | file it compiles? |
| 02:51.14 | bkw_ | does it RUN? |
| 02:51.37 | file[tealc] | bkw_: did you not read? editline doesn't |
| 02:51.41 | file[tealc] | asterisk requires editline |
| 02:51.48 | bkw_ | well fix it |
| 02:51.50 | file[tealc] | asterisk itself compiles though :) |
| 02:51.51 | file[tealc] | I am! |
| 02:51.54 | file[tealc] | or atleast trying to |
| 02:51.58 | file[tealc] | and it would go faster if you stopped talking |
| 02:52.03 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:52.04 | file[tealc] | everything be quiet, QUIET I SAY! |
| 02:53.15 | *** join/#asterisk brc007 (~Brian@ip68-108-199-177.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:53.33 | JohnA | there wouldn't be a howto on asterisk behind NAT anywhere would there? |
| 02:53.39 | chapster | brc007 Greetings. |
| 02:53.41 | JohnA | i'm kinda fighting on getting it working |
| 02:53.43 | file[tealc] | ooh... got it closer |
| 02:53.52 | Moc[ONeill] | voip-info give some info about nat and some phones |
| 02:54.09 | YoYo^ | JohnA, what is outside of your network that you're trying to connect to? |
| 02:54.16 | chapster | JohnA: From what I read, it is a mixed bag with NAT. |
| 02:54.24 | JohnA | i'm not getting any luck so far |
| 02:54.36 | JohnA | i've forwarded 5060 and 19900-20000 |
| 02:54.37 | brc007 | chapster: OMG GREETZ!!! |
| 02:54.52 | JohnA | mochanged rtp.conf to match that port range |
| 02:54.53 | chapster | brc007: You sound awfully chipper! |
| 02:55.06 | brc007 | omg wtf woot |
| 02:55.12 | JohnA | set the 3 addresses in sip.conf to match my network |
| 02:55.35 | file[tealc] | lalala |
| 02:56.14 | Poemius | it depends, I heard from a couple of people iax2 was designed with nat in mind |
| 02:56.41 | JohnA | yeah i'm not trying to do IAX2 |
| 02:56.53 | JohnA | it works outgoing on IAX2 mind you, to the digium test site |
| 02:57.06 | JohnA | i'm trying to connect from a sip softphone from outside my network |
| 02:58.13 | *** join/#asterisk BoRiS (~boris@S01060050da67299b.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 02:58.23 | *** join/#asterisk yaboo (~jsirucka@203-213-113-146-vic.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:58.28 | file[tealc] | now to fix these linking problems |
| 03:00.05 | sipper | bkw_ you closed 1229 because "res_data is going to replace this" is there any code available for res_data? |
| 03:00.14 | brc007 | Poemius: I don't know who you heard that from but IAX2 ROCKS through NAT |
| 03:00.25 | brc007 | it's NAT transparent =) |
| 03:00.30 | *** join/#asterisk tony__ (~Tony@c66.191.69.132.dul.mn.charter.com) |
| 03:00.38 | JohnA | well from what i read |
| 03:00.46 | JohnA | IAX2 combines data and header |
| 03:01.01 | bkw_ | file if you ahve this much clue why not use it to make asterisk better |
| 03:01.01 | bkw_ | instead of trying to run it on windows :P |
| 03:01.14 | JohnA | lol |
| 03:01.26 | file[tealc] | because somebody asked if it was possible :p |
| 03:01.54 | BoRiS | hey, I am looking at creating an app_* module and is it possible to easily access another module's function from within one? |
| 03:03.56 | sipper | hey bkw_ not ignoring me are you? |
| 03:04.01 | sipper | :) |
| 03:04.14 | brc007 | FILE is porting asterisk to WINDOWS? |
| 03:04.18 | brc007 | BWHAHAHAHAHHHHAHHAHHHAHHHHHAH! |
| 03:05.07 | file[tealc] | it's insane |
| 03:05.16 | file[tealc] | be afraid, be very afraid |
| 03:05.55 | JohnA | from what i read |
| 03:06.10 | JohnA | NAT "support" was put into * around 12 jan |
| 03:08.10 | JohnA | oh dear i'm an idiot |
| 03:09.47 | JohnA | i blame it on the time, you need to forward UDP/5060, and i forwarded TCP |
| 03:11.00 | brc007 | JohnA: uhm..that's news to me |
| 03:11.06 | brc007 | I believe you may be thinking of SIP? |
| 03:11.12 | sipper | JohnA: for a sip client or * server? |
| 03:11.20 | JohnA | yeah i'm talking about a SIP client outside my network |
| 03:11.34 | sipper | your * server has a public ip? |
| 03:11.42 | JohnA | no, it's behind NAT |
| 03:12.24 | JohnA | none of the docs i read specified TCP vs UDP for SIP, so i assumed TCP :) |
| 03:12.28 | sipper | ah.. ok. thats why you need the port forward.. that will be more difficult. |
| 03:12.31 | file[tealc] | why will this not link... |
| 03:12.37 | JohnA | it works now anyhow, which is cool |
| 03:12.41 | sipper | sip supports both |
| 03:12.48 | bkw_ | file you get it working? |
| 03:12.57 | JohnA | my SIP appears not to be bound to TCP |
| 03:12.58 | file[tealc] | bkw_: it won't link to termcap... |
| 03:13.06 | JohnA | udp 0 0 *:5060 *:* |
| 03:13.14 | file[tealc] | so the linker spits out unresolved symbol errors |
| 03:13.20 | derek_d | udp is usually the better choice |
| 03:13.25 | file[tealc] | undefined reference to _tputs for example |
| 03:13.34 | bkw_ | well get termcap installed |
| 03:13.38 | file[tealc] | it is. |
| 03:13.45 | file[tealc] | the header and the library |
| 03:13.55 | bkw_ | make clean |
| 03:13.56 | JohnA | i don't see an option to enable tcp either, but i'll take your word for it |
| 03:13.56 | sipper | derek_d: not neccesarily, you can do sip/tls with sip/tcp |
| 03:13.57 | bkw_ | and try again |
| 03:14.08 | file[tealc] | very well. |
| 03:14.19 | JohnA | yeah the nature of UDP should make it better for SIP |
| 03:14.38 | bkw_ | everyone should be on their knees thanking the powers that be...... |
| 03:14.41 | bkw_ | asterisk is free |
| 03:14.56 | JohnA | i gotta demonstrate * at a client in about 6 hours so i'm glad i got it working |
| 03:14.58 | bkw_ | if it were cisco you would be paying 100k per install |
| 03:14.59 | sipper | bkw_: bug 1229 can you tell me why you closed it? |
| 03:15.00 | derek_d | true, but udp is better suited... as you don't want the gaurantees and overhead of tcp making sure every packet makes it... even if it's out of order |
| 03:15.07 | bkw_ | what is 1229 |
| 03:15.08 | JohnA | kinda free, i spent all day today fiddling with it ;) |
| 03:15.26 | chapster | If asterisk did not exist, I wouldn't even be messing with anything like it. |
| 03:15.29 | bkw_ | sipper because rgagon is working on a new thing |
| 03:15.30 | bkw_ | ast_data |
| 03:15.44 | bkw_ | its going in the core of asterisk "if" it can be finalized and such |
| 03:15.58 | JohnA | yeah * is very interesting, i have got a quote in at this client for a * PBX with ip phones etc. |
| 03:16.16 | JohnA | and it comes out no more expensive than a regular PBX, but with millions more features and scalability |
| 03:16.16 | sipper | bkw_: ah ok. so there is no code available now for testing? |
| 03:16.32 | file[tealc] | my zaptel is too old... lol |
| 03:16.42 | chapster | Friend of mine is into PBX's and phone systems. He was a bit reluctant... "You get what you pay for", etc.. I told him the whole deal, he is interested. He works with Nortel equipment, mostly. |
| 03:16.43 | bkw_ | if you join #asterisk-dev m-f 9am to about 5pm CST |
| 03:16.45 | bkw_ | you can get the info |
| 03:16.48 | bkw_ | also ask Exomorph |
| 03:16.51 | bkw_ | he knows where to get it |
| 03:17.02 | sipper | bkw_: ok thanks |
| 03:17.38 | JohnA | you get what you pay for, which is usually a load of trash with PBX |
| 03:17.39 | YoYo^ | bkw, you @ 10 or 14 right now? |
| 03:17.45 | bkw_ | call now |
| 03:17.45 | bkw_ | 14 |
| 03:17.57 | JohnA | i mean we're not talking about a lot of money, $10000ish, but still |
| 03:18.16 | YoYo^ | http://www.psknet.com/pbx/ |
| 03:18.46 | chapster | JohnA: He is on a project now, they just spent 60,000. on some kind of phone system. Thats a lot of money. |
| 03:18.51 | file[tealc] | maybe I need to link it in here... |
| 03:18.52 | derek_d | we pay like 35K a year for our shitty avaya at work |
| 03:18.59 | derek_d | i wouldn't call that getting what you pay for |
| 03:19.03 | JohnA | $60k isn't a lot in the phone world, i wouldn't say |
| 03:19.23 | chapster | It's an amazing amount from my perspective. :) |
| 03:19.28 | JohnA | lol |
| 03:20.05 | JohnA | well nice IP phones are $300 a handset... you don't need many of those to run up a bill before you start |
| 03:20.15 | derek_d | pffft |
| 03:20.34 | derek_d | a digital phone for a decent phone system is more than that |
| 03:20.43 | JohnA | i couldn't agree more |
| 03:20.48 | tclark | chapster: is your friend an software eng for nortel switches ? |
| 03:20.55 | SwK | 35K/year on avaya... whats that a low end 3gsi? |
| 03:20.59 | JohnA | i'd say they were about on a par actually, but yeah |
| 03:21.30 | JohnA | the only down point with * is you need to throw an awful lot of hardware at it |
| 03:21.38 | derek_d | i really don't know... it's a lucent we have about 60 stations and need two of them for that... with 3 pri connectivity |
| 03:21.58 | JohnA | on the plus side, i've upgraded from 0.90 to 1.0stable and it's no longer chewing 100% cpu |
| 03:22.37 | chapster | tclark: Nope. He is just configures and installs phone system. He is a subcontractor. |
| 03:22.40 | tclark | JohnA: what do ,you call a lot of h/w we done 200+ gsmto ulaw calls on dual 2.6 with 2 410's |
| 03:22.43 | derek_d | we just barely got IP connectivity to it a few months ago... dialing in with a modem was crap |
| 03:22.57 | SwK | derek_d: 2 what: cabinets/ |
| 03:23.01 | derek_d | yes |
| 03:23.06 | JohnA | 200+? oh, that's more than digium say |
| 03:23.14 | JohnA | but it depends a lot on the codec right |
| 03:23.29 | derek_d | they are wall mount units that hold like 6 cards each... and they are connected together |
| 03:23.30 | SwK | sounds like a g3si then... small system |
| 03:23.39 | tclark | chapster: i c i was hoping for the day when a nortel type when a dsp echo can back ground drops in :) |
| 03:23.58 | SwK | prolly smaller then that like a partner system |
| 03:24.00 | chapster | tclark: I guess just keep hoping. :) |
| 03:24.10 | JohnA | digium say like 60 on a dual 2.8 |
| 03:24.19 | derek_d | we have a t1 to our parent company that does our voicemail right now... and they are dumping their system in a few months... leaving us without vm... which is why i'm playing with asterisk |
| 03:24.21 | *** join/#asterisk CaNaBiS_ (canabis@pcp02022452pcs.rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net) |
| 03:24.32 | JohnA | but that's g.729 |
| 03:24.34 | tclark | JohnA: with 729 maybe |
| 03:24.55 | file[tealc] | derek_d: asterisk's voicemail is quite nice, works easily |
| 03:24.57 | JohnA | of course on a lan the bandwidth is pretty irrelevant |
| 03:25.11 | JohnA | 30kbit/sec vs 60kbit.sec on a 100mbit network :) |
| 03:25.13 | derek_d | yea and it's _way_ cheaper |
| 03:25.24 | SwK | hah |
| 03:25.46 | SwK | intuity was always a pain in my ass |
| 03:25.54 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@d6-245.rt-bras.che.centurytel.net) |
| 03:25.55 | ManxPower | Useful Asterisk Docs (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unofficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ (my site) and http://asteriskdocs.org/ |
| 03:25.57 | ManxPower | To search the Asterisk mailing list archive go to www.google.com and put site:lists.digium.com in addition to your other query terms. |
| 03:26.06 | derek_d | yea that's what we have |
| 03:26.14 | sipper | uh oh here we go again |
| 03:26.26 | file[tealc] | derek_d: you can easily set it up for phone retrieval, web retrieval, and e-mail... I personally love it |
| 03:26.46 | derek_d | i'm going all the way |
| 03:27.05 | derek_d | sip phones are dirt compared to what we pay for those avaya handsets |
| 03:27.11 | SwK | i had to maintain something like that for a small call center (really just a simple acd) but the assholes wanted the auto-attended reworked on what seemed like a weekly basis |
| 03:27.30 | ManxPower | derek_d: You pay more than $300 for Avaya? |
| 03:27.34 | JohnA | are there any nice sip phones that can be used on a switchboard? |
| 03:27.35 | SwK | derek_d: which avaya sets are you using? |
| 03:27.40 | ManxPower | JohnA: No. |
| 03:27.48 | JohnA | the 7960 can have 2 7914s... but that's just 34 extensions |
| 03:27.49 | derek_d | i think they are 6812D or something |
| 03:27.51 | JohnA | which is not very many |
| 03:27.54 | derek_d | they are like 375 eache |
| 03:28.22 | ManxPower | derek_d: Uh, what phones were you looking at? Grandstream? HAHAHAHAHAH! |
| 03:28.42 | ManxPower | JohnA: The 7914 is not supported by the SIP image |
| 03:28.50 | JohnA | 7914: oh :( |
| 03:28.52 | ManxPower | And the SCCP driver does not support the 7914 |
| 03:28.56 | Mike | ManxPower: Grandstream is getting very very good |
| 03:29.26 | derek_d | polycom |
| 03:29.26 | JohnA | that's a big shame |
| 03:29.26 | ManxPower | JohnA: Go read the mailing list archives. |
| 03:29.26 | Mike | ManxPower: new firmware releases are becoming pretty good |
| 03:29.26 | file[tealc] | "The body cannot live without the mind." |
| 03:29.26 | derek_d | i have a grandstream it's a steaming pile |
| 03:29.37 | ManxPower | derek_d: The hardware or the software or both? |
| 03:29.50 | derek_d | polycom phone, asterisk sip server |
| 03:30.06 | derek_d | sipura is the best cheapy ua i've seeen |
| 03:30.27 | Mike | derek_d: i had more problems with sipura |
| 03:30.40 | Mike | derek_d: plus sipura doesnt support ilbc, and they dont answer emails |
| 03:30.49 | JohnA | hmm it's getting light outside, i better go to bed |
| 03:31.04 | JohnA | reading the mailing list archives is on the todo list, i'm too tired for it tonight though |
| 03:31.19 | Mike | derek_d: i remember on old asterisk releases sipura sound like shit for there timestamp |
| 03:31.26 | Mike | derek_d: grandstream ata doesnt do that |
| 03:32.06 | ManxPower | Mike: How much does Grandstream pay you? |
| 03:32.18 | Mike | cisco phones are getting VERY old now and they are still to expensive not worth what they are priced at |
| 03:32.28 | derek_d | sipura sounds fine... even works for 56 modems & fax flawless with sip |
| 03:33.08 | Mike | ManxPower: you know they dont pay me |
| 03:33.23 | Mike | ManxPower: but its the best phone for the price |
| 03:33.53 | ManxPower | It's the ONLY phone for the price. |
| 03:34.01 | derek_d | call 411600 if you want to hear a sipura |
| 03:34.05 | derek_d | on fwd |
| 03:34.23 | Mike | derek_d: i have sipura's and grandstreams i know how they work |
| 03:34.58 | dov | there are other phones for the price :) |