| 00:00.00 | timecop | I'd rather avoid paying |
| 00:00.04 | timecop | considering how I'm not evne in u.s. |
| 00:00.07 | wsuff | haha |
| 00:00.16 | wsuff | want everything 4 free |
| 00:00.32 | timecop | so paying for an occasional random call to u.s. seems a little bit too much |
| 00:00.50 | justinnnnnn | timecop |
| 00:00.52 | justinnnnnn | im in .au |
| 00:01.00 | justinnnnnn | and i used iconnect :) |
| 00:01.10 | justinnnnnn | u get like $10 credit |
| 00:01.17 | justinnnnnn | and call to us is like 2c/min |
| 00:01.19 | justinnnnnn | or something like that |
| 00:01.42 | timecop | bleh |
| 00:01.59 | JerJer[mobile] | force everyone you call to get VoIP |
| 00:03.25 | timecop | hey, I can originate calls from the manager interface right? |
| 00:03.32 | JerJer[mobile] | action: originate |
| 00:03.36 | JerJer[mobile] | exten: 69 |
| 00:03.39 | JerJer[mobile] | context: blah |
| 00:03.45 | JerJer[mobile] | channel: Zap/g1/911 |
| 00:03.47 | timecop | how about conferencing? |
| 00:04.00 | JerJer[mobile] | [blah] |
| 00:04.07 | JerJer[mobile] | exten => 69,1,MeetMe,1234 |
| 00:04.09 | bkw_ | JerJer wasabi |
| 00:04.10 | timecop | well yeah |
| 00:04.13 | timecop | i knew that |
| 00:04.17 | debaser | heh |
| 00:04.20 | timecop | i mean if I make 2 calls |
| 00:04.22 | debaser | troll. |
| 00:04.23 | timecop | and want to bridge them |
| 00:04.29 | timecop | from the manager interface |
| 00:04.29 | JerJer[mobile] | action: redirect |
| 00:04.41 | JerJer[mobile] | or hell |
| 00:04.43 | JerJer[mobile] | action: originate |
| 00:04.48 | JerJer[mobile] | exten: 18102341212 |
| 00:04.52 | JerJer[mobile] | context: outbound |
| 00:05.00 | samy^ | does mnicholson hang on here? |
| 00:05.04 | JerJer[mobile] | channel: IAX2/god@NuFone/911 |
| 00:05.18 | justinnnnnn | heh |
| 00:05.23 | justinnnnnn | is there anyway to hijack a call |
| 00:05.23 | justinnnnnn | ? |
| 00:05.26 | twisted | hahahahha |
| 00:05.29 | JerJer[mobile] | zapbarge |
| 00:05.30 | twisted | wtf is that jerjer |
| 00:05.42 | JerJer[mobile] | he wanted to bridge two calls together |
| 00:05.46 | twisted | ho |
| 00:05.48 | twisted | er |
| 00:05.48 | twisted | oh |
| 00:05.52 | bkw_ | ho? |
| 00:05.54 | bkw_ | who you callin ho? |
| 00:05.59 | JerJer[mobile] | outbound would be exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial/blah |
| 00:06.03 | twisted | apparently you, you answered :P |
| 00:06.09 | JerJer[mobile] | +1 |
| 00:06.16 | timecop | hrm |
| 00:06.26 | samy^ | bkw, twisted, any ideas on the problem that is crashing * on my machine? |
| 00:06.34 | twisted | samy^: agi |
| 00:06.48 | twisted | WTF |
| 00:06.50 | bkw_ | its not asterisk |
| 00:06.51 | debaser | hahahah |
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| 00:06.56 | bkw_ | haha |
| 00:07.03 | twisted | <debaser> what's a good time cost, sweetcakes? |
| 00:07.06 | twisted | wtf |
| 00:07.06 | tzanger | bkw_: that valetparking ... who baby |
| 00:07.13 | tzanger | er whoa baby rather |
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| 00:08.02 | JerJer[mobile] | TDM11B rocks! |
| 00:08.07 | justinnnnnn | whats that |
| 00:08.54 | JerJer[mobile] | its a TDM11B |
| 00:09.02 | twisted | bkw_: stop tellin your friends about the private service i provide |
| 00:09.08 | tzanger | TDM11B = 1 FXS + 1FXO |
| 00:09.12 | tzanger | i.e. the new DevKit IIRC |
| 00:09.28 | tzanger | freaked out the kids by calling one phone from the other :-) |
| 00:09.43 | twisted | hahaha |
| 00:09.54 | twisted | WHOA something blew up outside |
| 00:09.57 | twisted | brb |
| 00:10.04 | tzanger | twisted: where is there? |
| 00:10.24 | trelane_ | lebanon, tn |
| 00:10.36 | bkw_ | twisted private services? |
| 00:10.41 | bkw_ | care to tell me? |
| 00:10.42 | justinnnnnn | ive got a question |
| 00:10.45 | tzanger | twisted privates sounds painful |
| 00:10.47 | twisted | ok... it was just a car on the interstate |
| 00:10.47 | samy^ | twisted, it must be the bit explosion! didn't you hear from WWW.DALNEtTBULTONROFLKTHXBY.com |
| 00:10.50 | justinnnnnn | lets say u got 100000 asterisk servers |
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| 00:10.56 | samy^ | s/bit/big/ |
| 00:10.59 | bkw_ | look there's one now |
| 00:11.00 | justinnnnnn | what do u do if the switch connecting em all dies |
| 00:11.10 | tzanger | samy^: hahahaa |
| 00:11.10 | twisted | bkw_: the services... |
| 00:11.13 | twisted | bkw_: stop tellin your friends about the private service i provide |
| 00:11.17 | twisted | <debaser> what's a good time cost, sweetcakes? |
| 00:11.22 | twisted | THAT's what I mean |
| 00:11.38 | bkw_ | hahahahha |
| 00:11.41 | bkw_ | I didn't |
| 00:11.43 | tzanger | twisted: hahahaha |
| 00:12.17 | debaser | heh |
| 00:12.30 | justinnnnnn | how much does it cost u guys in usa to make a local call ? |
| 00:12.40 | wsuff | local |
| 00:12.42 | wsuff | ? |
| 00:12.51 | twisted | justinnnnnn: 2.9c/min... the country is my local calling area |
| 00:12.55 | pattieja | should be "free" (i.e., included in monthly bill) |
| 00:13.07 | justinnnnnn | say u want to ring someone down the road |
| 00:13.11 | justinnnnnn | how much does that generaly cost ? |
| 00:13.13 | wsuff | twisted: ya mr no pstn lines |
| 00:13.14 | twisted | 2.9c/min. |
| 00:13.20 | justinnnnnn | thats expensive |
| 00:13.22 | twisted | i have no pstn lines, tho |
| 00:13.24 | wsuff | justinnnnnn: normal phone company does that for free |
| 00:13.29 | justinnnnnn | oh ok |
| 00:13.30 | pattieja | yep |
| 00:13.31 | justinnnnnn | thats cheap then heh |
| 00:13.32 | wsuff | part of the monthly package |
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| 00:13.34 | twisted | it's not free |
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| 00:13.36 | twisted | look at your monthly cost |
| 00:13.43 | timecop | local calls are free in u.s. thankfully |
| 00:13.57 | wsuff | twisted: well ya but i don't pay that bill thankfully |
| 00:13.57 | justinnnnnn | how much is an average monthly cost ? |
| 00:14.05 | twisted | wsuff: heh |
| 00:14.05 | wsuff | way too much |
| 00:14.07 | pattieja | $30/line |
| 00:14.16 | wsuff | my house spends 100/mnth |
| 00:14.18 | wsuff | for 2 lines |
| 00:14.25 | twisted | my bills aren't that expensive |
| 00:14.28 | wsuff | yet all my calls are voip |
| 00:14.33 | wsuff | but my family won't switch |
| 00:14.34 | pattieja | and then I ask myself, "why not just use a cellphone all the time?" |
| 00:14.44 | wsuff | pattieja: been doing that too |
| 00:14.44 | justinnnnnn | i think here its like $20/line + 20c/untimed for calls in metro area |
| 00:14.47 | pattieja | wsuff: no echo problems? |
| 00:15.02 | wsuff | pattieja: sometimes depends |
| 00:15.09 | pattieja | wsuff: on what? |
| 00:15.17 | wsuff | pattieja: then i have people call me back to my pstn on their phone |
| 00:15.17 | justinnnnnn | ive given up on the hole echo/asterisk thing |
| 00:15.25 | wsuff | my cell can have bad echo |
| 00:15.30 | wsuff | depending on where i am |
| 00:15.31 | justinnnnnn | cause when i use asterisk + cisco fxo's its perfect and stuff |
| 00:15.36 | justinnnnnn | stupid digium :) |
| 00:15.37 | pattieja | justinnnnnn: hmmm |
| 00:15.52 | pattieja | justinnnnnn: what are cisco fxo's? |
| 00:15.57 | justinnnnnn | like i no u can play around with it and shit |
| 00:16.04 | justinnnnnn | but just standard it works perfectly |
| 00:16.12 | twisted | pattieja: he's using a cisco voip router |
| 00:16.19 | twisted | prolly using a t1 x-over to * |
| 00:16.25 | justinnnnnn | 5400 for pri's worked perfect |
| 00:16.36 | pattieja | justinnnnnn: what about PSTN? |
| 00:16.36 | justinnnnnn | and 17xx for pstn |
| 00:16.39 | justinnnnnn | also worked perfect |
| 00:16.47 | pattieja | hmm |
| 00:16.56 | justinnnnnn | and then i slap the digium one in.. all echo'y and stuff |
| 00:16.57 | wsuff | Justinnnn: glad u got all this $$ to spend |
| 00:16.59 | pattieja | I know there was a 4-port FXO gateway selling on eBay awhile back |
| 00:17.00 | justinnnnnn | heh nah |
| 00:17.03 | pattieja | some H323 thingy |
| 00:17.06 | justinnnnnn | cisco 5400 was in cisco's lab |
| 00:17.28 | pattieja | is echo really that difficult a problem? |
| 00:17.35 | wsuff | dunno |
| 00:17.44 | wsuff | all my dids are off pris via iax2 |
| 00:17.46 | pattieja | is there no hope? |
| 00:17.49 | pattieja | :) |
| 00:19.20 | wsuff | we are all hopeless |
| 00:19.22 | pattieja | twisted: just to bring us back to our earlier discussion, do you really think that Digium's tech support would help me cure the echo problem? even if I asked? or would they be like, enable echocancellation, compile in aggressive suppression, oh, it still isn't working properly?... |
| 00:19.26 | wsuff | that's why we are on irc in the first place |
| 00:19.41 | twisted | pattieja: i believe they would do the best they could, yes. |
| 00:19.44 | pattieja | wsuff: there is one person we can definitely all hope in |
| 00:19.51 | twisted | pattieja: i say this after visiting their offices a few times ;) |
| 00:19.55 | pattieja | twisted: guess I'll have to give it a try |
| 00:20.01 | twisted | yeah |
| 00:20.14 | wsuff | twisted: why don't ya have mark hire ya as the irc whore =) |
| 00:20.19 | pattieja | is tech support included in a purchase? or just installation support? |
| 00:20.27 | twisted | wsuff: hahahaha |
| 00:20.38 | Crippled | pattieja: installation |
| 00:20.40 | wsuff | pattieja: just call say u still haven't got it to work |
| 00:20.47 | wsuff | so that is still installation |
| 00:20.48 | wsuff | haha |
| 00:21.05 | twisted | Crippled: i was under the impression that it was tech support for anythong to do with the card.. |
| 00:21.09 | twisted | err |
| 00:21.09 | pattieja | twisted: also, I was thinking if having our telco increase the volume on the line might help with me not having to fiddle with the rx/txgain values |
| 00:21.11 | twisted | anything.. not thong |
| 00:21.20 | wsuff | thong |
| 00:21.22 | pattieja | eewwww. |
| 00:21.24 | twisted | pattieja: yeah, but that's like trying to pull teeth out thru their ass |
| 00:21.24 | wsuff | hmm someone needs to get laid |
| 00:21.25 | wsuff | haha |
| 00:21.52 | pattieja | twisted: what about "balancing the hybrid"? I've heard alot about that, but haven't asked them about that either. |
| 00:22.04 | pattieja | or is it already supposed to be "balanced"? |
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| 00:22.56 | twisted | pattieja: i was under the impression that it's supposed to be balanced... but i dono |
| 00:23.27 | pattieja | twisted: well, of course it's supposed to be balanced, otherwise every conversation we have would be more echo'y, I think |
| 00:23.31 | debaser | balance is a good thing? |
| 00:23.32 | twisted | hehe |
| 00:23.36 | pattieja | actually, I don't know |
| 00:23.42 | pattieja | debaser: I assume so |
| 00:23.51 | pattieja | google time |
| 00:24.02 | justinnnnnn | i was reading i like last night.. ppl play around with the physical line of analogue lines to get rid of echo |
| 00:24.02 | pattieja | (to the tune of hammer time) |
| 00:24.06 | twisted | generally, having a balanced line is great if your equipment isn't throwing it off |
| 00:24.13 | justinnnnnn | what would i be looking for ? |
| 00:24.16 | pattieja | hmm |
| 00:25.43 | debaser | http://www.plif.com/archive/wc263.gif <- unbalanced |
| 00:25.47 | twisted | but generally speaking, telco equipment will just be adding 600ohms of impedence in the line, which takes the line off hook. |
| 00:25.49 | debaser | (in general terms) |
| 00:26.07 | twisted | YEAH |
| 00:26.13 | twisted | that's WAY unbalanced debaser |
| 00:26.28 | alladin | anyone can help me with an hfc-s card? |
| 00:27.43 | pattieja | disgusting |
| 00:28.00 | debaser | could be. |
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| 00:28.42 | wsuff | doughecka: =) |
| 00:29.16 | Crippled | anyone? Ring/Off-hook in strange state 6 |
| 00:29.22 | twisted | whoa |
| 00:29.30 | twisted | that should be on the mailing list Crippled.. |
| 00:29.33 | twisted | i've seen it before |
| 00:29.46 | Crippled | it's in there.. but the busydetect solution doesn't work |
| 00:30.01 | twisted | callprogres? |
| 00:30.33 | Crippled | there you go |
| 00:30.39 | Crippled | callprogress=no doesn't solve it |
| 00:30.56 | twisted | hm |
| 00:31.04 | twisted | i can't remember the final solution |
| 00:31.10 | tzanger | twisted: I have the exact same problem as Crippled -- T100P with Adit600 |
| 00:31.18 | tzanger | dtwdoesn't happen NEARLY as often as him |
| 00:31.23 | twisted | Yes, setting "callprogress=no" fixed the problem. |
| 00:31.23 | twisted | Thanks to everyone. |
| 00:31.27 | twisted | that was in the channel |
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| 00:31.37 | twisted | but is this on a T100P or a x100p? |
| 00:32.07 | tzanger | I have callprogress=no on my T100P/Adit600 and still get it occassionally |
| 00:32.08 | twisted | s/channel/list |
| 00:32.13 | twisted | hmm |
| 00:33.21 | twisted | Crippled: does it go away if you reset the line state by going off/on hook? |
| 00:34.12 | Crippled | no.. |
| 00:35.18 | pattieja | twisted: I found this: |
| 00:35.21 | pattieja | In review |
| 00:35.22 | pattieja | A coupler provides a method of connecting to a telephone line. |
| 00:35.22 | pattieja | A hybrid provides a method of balancing the send and receive audio. |
| 00:35.33 | pattieja | on http://www.audiotheater.com/phone/phone.html |
| 00:36.02 | twisted | heh |
| 00:36.46 | Damin | Beware the spork! |
| 00:37.15 | tzanger | twisted: I have a weird problem when I bridge calls... not always but often enough to be nasty. Adit600, call comes in FXO, * calls my home via IAX2... times out so picks up another FXO port on Adit600 and dials my cell. 7 times out of 10 it bridges just fine, but about 30% of the time I will answer and whenever I talk on the cell I get back a "buzz" (almost sounds like an overdriven dialtone) for the length of time I talk. |
| 00:37.34 | tzanger | i.e. if I say "Hello?" I hear that overdriven dialtone back at me about 0.5s later for the duration that it takes me to say "Hello?" |
| 00:37.40 | tzanger | the louder I speak the louder the return buzz |
| 00:38.14 | samy^ | if i run "valgrind asterisk", it shouldn't give me a lot of errors should it? |
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| 00:43.33 | ken_ | hmm |
| 00:43.44 | ken_ | anyone know of any command line voip phones? |
| 00:43.49 | ken_ | er, soft phone |
| 00:43.51 | ken_ | whatever |
| 00:44.24 | pattieja | ken_: linphonec |
| 00:44.54 | pattieja | twisted: here is the crux of the problem: http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/teleinterface.html |
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| 00:45.10 | pattieja | Why full duplex operation in single wire pair ? |
| 00:45.10 | pattieja | Full-Duplex is a term used to describe a communications channel which is capable of both receiving and sending information simultaneously. |
| 00:45.10 | pattieja | Telephone sets (ordinary analog ones) have only 2 wires, which carry both speaker and microphone signals. The signal path between two telephones, involving a call other than a local one, requires amplification using a 4-wire circuit. The cost and cabling required ruled out the idea of running a 4-wire circuit out to the subscribers' premises from the local exchange and an alternative solution had to be found. Hence, the 4-wire trunk circ |
| 00:45.17 | pattieja | uits were converted to 2-wire local cabling, using a device called a "hybrid". |
| 00:45.25 | pattieja | This function can send and receive audio signals at the same time is accomplished by designing the system so that there is a well balanced circuit in both ends of the wire which are capable or separating incoming audio from outgoing signal. This function is done by telephone hybrid circuit contained in the network interface of the telephone. |
| 00:46.20 | pattieja | so, does this mean that the X101P does not have a good hybrid circuit interface? |
| 00:46.55 | Legend | pattieja: flood the channel some more, then maybe we will kniw |
| 00:46.59 | Legend | know even |
| 00:46.59 | tzanger | pattieja: The X101P isn't very good at adapting to the PSTN. |
| 00:47.31 | tzanger | more expensive hybrids (i.e. channel banks) can adapt to unbalanced PSTN lines, which helps a _lot_ |
| 00:47.50 | Legend | and tdm400ps, right? |
| 00:48.03 | tzanger | I've never tried the TDM400's FXO ports |
| 00:48.13 | tzanger | I see on the list that they have trouble with remote-end disconnection though |
| 00:48.14 | kram | for what it's worth, the new FXO modules should be better than the X100P |
| 00:48.18 | kram | but we haven't had enough out to know |
| 00:48.24 | kram | since most people can get the x100p working just fine |
| 00:48.32 | kram | two words of advice if you're having ehco issues with x100ps... |
| 00:48.39 | tzanger | kram: I am eager to try them, but have no POTS lines anymore :-) |
| 00:48.41 | kram | 1) You might have TIP/RING backwards. Try reversing them |
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| 00:49.01 | kram | 2) If you turn on echotraining and you still have any significant echo, you've got something configured wrong. |
| 00:49.22 | Jesse- | chirp |
| 00:49.37 | Umaro | is that anything like saying "it's not our fault, it's yours" ? |
| 00:49.44 | pattieja | kram: like what? |
| 00:50.05 | twisted | i thought t/r reversed might be a problem... as i mentioned to mackie or whoever |
| 00:50.20 | pattieja | kram: I've already been through the TIP/RINGg reversal thing. it didn't seem to make a difference. The original wiring seems to sound slightly better |
| 00:50.38 | tzanger | kram: I disagree- you could also have a very unbalanced line -- X101 can't adapt (isn't designed to, not a fault of the card, just a reality) |
| 00:50.52 | kram | tzanger; but echo training works around that limitation |
| 00:50.54 | pattieja | tzanger: what do you do in those cases? |
| 00:51.06 | kram | typically an echo canceller can only echo cancel when Rx signal is 1/2 of Tx signal |
| 00:51.10 | kram | however, with echo training this is not a limitation |
| 00:51.19 | tzanger | kram: it can... I am lucky, I don't have to worry about those issues anymore |
| 00:51.20 | kram | we send an impulse, record the response, and pre-train the echo canceller |
| 00:51.28 | kram | even if it's 100% echo we can compensate for it |
| 00:51.38 | pattieja | kram: just this morning, I had echo everything enabled. The phone system seemed to work fine, as I called another line last night. |
| 00:51.50 | pattieja | the first call I got this morning, exploded in my ear |
| 00:52.04 | tzanger | kram: are there any plans on keeping the training 'ping' and perhaps only pinging every 10th call or so to minimize the delay? |
| 00:52.08 | h3x | when you have two T400P's in the same box |
| 00:52.10 | pattieja | kram: that impulse makes funny noises on the other end of the line to the person calling |
| 00:52.17 | h3x | is there supposed to be a span on each one that provides timing |
| 00:52.18 | pattieja | like a fading crash |
| 00:52.26 | kram | tzanger: the training does not provide any substantial delay, just a few hundred milliseconds |
| 00:52.28 | h3x | or just 1 for the whole system |
| 00:52.31 | kram | if that |
| 00:52.32 | samy^ | hey kram |
| 00:52.37 | kram | samy^ hi |
| 00:52.39 | samy^ | how are ya |
| 00:52.50 | tzanger | kram: hmm I seem to have a good second dealy on my TDM400P (FXS) whenever I answer a call |
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| 00:53.06 | samy^ | want an account to test the prob i'm having? |
| 00:53.06 | kram | should be extremely minimal |
| 00:53.15 | kram | perhaps something is misconfigured? |
| 00:53.19 | kram | especially answering a call |
| 00:53.21 | tzanger | kram: I'm used to it but just looking at the corner cases :-) |
| 00:53.23 | kram | it should be nearly insignificant |
| 00:53.41 | pattieja | kram: I used to have the agent login press '#' to pickup the incoming call, but then disabled it since it kept sending a crashing echo to the far party whenever the call was connected |
| 00:53.43 | kram | samy^ yah, will need root access |
| 00:53.44 | tzanger | hmm on answering a call I pick up, wait for the "click" and then I can talk. just alway sbeen that way :-) |
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| 00:54.12 | chapster | kram: How do you determine which is tip, which is ring, and how they should be wired. I assume that just because you have two wires with dialtone, it might not be wired correctly? |
| 00:54.18 | kram | what do you mean it sent echo? |
| 00:54.39 | kram | chapster: IIRC RING is the more negative one |
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| 00:55.00 | kram | chapster easiest way is just to swap it and see if it gets better |
| 00:55.06 | pattieja | kram: well, I had the X101P in the K6-2 350 and the TDM400P in the Athlon system (till last night) |
| 00:55.14 | pattieja | I connected them via switch using IAX2 |
| 00:55.31 | pattieja | the analog handset logs in as an agent to the incoming queue |
| 00:55.33 | chapster | kram: Ok. I think I will just google for some info. I didn't realize that it mattered until you said something. |
| 00:55.49 | h3x | tip is negative |
| 00:55.56 | kram | they are both negative |
| 00:55.58 | kram | one is more negative than the other |
| 00:55.59 | pattieja | whenever an incoming call comes in, any logged in agents are rung, the analog being one of them using IAX2 |
| 00:56.01 | h3x | you connect the black of your butt set to the top |
| 00:56.11 | h3x | which is tip |
| 00:56.17 | h3x | of a 66 block |
| 00:56.43 | h3x | well |
| 00:56.52 | h3x | thats true |
| 00:57.14 | h3x | kram, what are those two 3 pin connectors on the t400p ? |
| 00:57.17 | h3x | clocking or something? |
| 00:57.29 | kram | clocking |
| 00:57.34 | kram | but basically nobody uses it |
| 00:57.35 | pattieja | pick up the analog extension, press '#', and CRASH CRash Crash crash ... echoing everything I say including the initial DTMF tone of the '#' for approximately 2 - 3 seconds, then it gets stifled, the other end usually says something like, that was weird, and then if the conversation goes for a long time (typically 5 - 10, maybe 15 minutes) echo starts creeping in and out of the conversation |
| 00:57.47 | h3x | oh |
| 00:57.56 | h3x | why not |
| 00:58.39 | pattieja | so, I put the X101P into the same machine as the TDM400P last night |
| 00:59.38 | bkw_ | I guess its time for me to get a TDM board |
| 00:59.49 | bkw_ | i'm gonna wait a few months |
| 00:59.55 | pattieja | this morning after the "echo explosion" that lasted for approximately 2 seconds, it sounded like the ocean draining, the other person hung up, so I wasn't able to figure out whether it would get better or not. I then disabled all echocancellation and commented out the rx/txgain lines |
| 01:00.20 | pattieja | and this is all analog this time, no IAX or VoIP or anything else |
| 01:00.27 | tzanger | "sounded like the ocean draining" hahahha |
| 01:01.01 | kram | pattie: who hears the echo? |
| 01:01.05 | kram | is this FXO to FXS? |
| 01:01.08 | pattieja | I then cautiously increased rxgain, since the phone line is still useless without increasing the incoming callers volume (don't know any other way of doing it). That always increases echo |
| 01:01.46 | pattieja | kram: mostly me on the analog handset. But I have had callers complain that they experience echo during their calls as well, especially when we do not hear it on our end |
| 01:02.07 | pattieja | but that was in the previous arrangement, i.e., X101P and TDM400P connected via IAX2 |
| 01:02.15 | pattieja | I've only had the cards together for today |
| 01:02.40 | pattieja | kram: both FXO and FXS?? |
| 01:02.48 | pattieja | FXO = X101P and FXS = TDM400P (one analog extension), right? |
| 01:03.13 | kram | no no no no |
| 01:03.17 | kram | do NOT muck with the gains |
| 01:03.19 | kram | bad bad bad bad |
| 01:03.26 | tzanger | kram++ |
| 01:03.29 | pattieja | kram: how else can I hear the incoming caller? |
| 01:03.31 | kram | gains + echo == very bad |
| 01:03.32 | tzanger | do not play with them at this point in the game |
| 01:03.41 | tzanger | comment them out |
| 01:03.41 | kram | there is an option in the driver you can use |
| 01:03.45 | pattieja | ehh? |
| 01:03.47 | tzanger | then stop and start asterisk again |
| 01:03.50 | kram | to boost rx if you have to |
| 01:04.03 | kram | if you're having gain problems, that's another sign of tip/ring backwards |
| 01:04.06 | pattieja | kram: will that affect echo? |
| 01:04.08 | kram | please try swapping |
| 01:04.14 | kram | if you have them backwards yes |
| 01:04.23 | kram | if you muck with the gains, most assuredly that will cause problems with echo |
| 01:04.24 | pattieja | hmm. |
| 01:04.38 | tzanger | kram: is the X100P the TJNet card or is the X101P? |
| 01:04.56 | pattieja | ok. but the last time I switched the pair, the incoming volume level was almost the same if not a little lower than it currently is |
| 01:05.25 | pattieja | voicemails are not intelligble, they're even lower than a whisper at that setting |
| 01:05.34 | pattieja | and voice conversations are impossible |
| 01:05.40 | kram | tzanger: they both are based on the tigerjet |
| 01:05.45 | tzanger | kram: ah |
| 01:05.50 | kram | the tigerjet part is an extremely interesting part |
| 01:05.51 | tzanger | both with the glued-on heatsink? |
| 01:05.55 | kram | and is used in several designs |
| 01:06.01 | tzanger | kram: it looks like a PCI serial port and timer |
| 01:06.29 | kram | tzanger: more or less, also has GPIO and local bus neither of which is used on the X100P or X101P cards |
| 01:06.30 | tzanger | serial port meaining serial interface, not 8250-alike |
| 01:06.45 | tzanger | yeah I remember looking over the data sheets |
| 01:06.55 | pattieja | kram: if I use a multimeter, can I determine actually whether tip and ring have been swapped? |
| 01:07.13 | YoYo | x100/101 is EOL now kram? |
| 01:07.26 | pattieja | I would imagine I would get a positive voltage reading in one direction (of ~ 8V) and a negative reading in the other? |
| 01:08.30 | chapster | pattieja: Doing some reading, I found this: http://www.ktechonline.com/pdf/Telephone_Line_Measures_042600.pdf |
| 01:09.14 | bkw_ | someone buy me a TDM board |
| 01:09.16 | bkw_ | :P |
| 01:09.23 | twisted | chapster: that's a great find :) |
| 01:09.48 | twisted | bkw_: i have a t100p you can throw things at me to test |
| 01:09.50 | tzanger | tip is +ve with respect to ring |
| 01:10.25 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:11.08 | tzanger | tip = earth, ring = -48VDC |
| 01:11.14 | tzanger | both should have equal impedance to ground |
| 01:11.25 | XARiUS | Hey Kram, on a positive note, I fired up my TE410P for it's first test with my live T1, all inbound DID's and outbound worked flawlessley, no echo, no nothin.. Very impressive!! For the cost of 1/10th of a typical PBX license, I've got a new system that'll expand up to 90+ channels.. Kudos for the excellent work =) |
| 01:11.45 | tzanger | XARiUS: you should not have echo, ever, with PRI |
| 01:12.02 | XARiUS | yeah, I was worried though, reading all the echo horror stories lol. |
| 01:12.06 | tzanger | :-) |
| 01:12.09 | XARiUS | Regardless, I'm highly impressed. =) |
| 01:12.15 | tzanger | yes, asterisk just plain old rocks |
| 01:12.26 | bkw_ | XARiUS you can ignore most of the drama |
| 01:12.30 | bkw_ | because alot of people fail to read |
| 01:12.41 | bkw_ | :P |
| 01:12.50 | XARiUS | I'm just stoked everything worked the first time outta the gates! |
| 01:12.53 | ASTMonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.56 | tzanger | hehe |
| 01:13.01 | su- | there should be a site that has good info :) |
| 01:13.04 | tzanger | here's a quick test for you |
| 01:13.05 | tzanger | peel a potato, stick both wires into seperate locations, wait to see |
| 01:13.05 | tzanger | which wire starts to turn the potato green, the one that turns the |
| 01:13.06 | tzanger | potato green is the Ring side. |
| 01:13.15 | twisted | hahaha |
| 01:13.17 | twisted | are you serious? |
| 01:13.17 | XARiUS | LOL |
| 01:13.17 | pattieja | chapster: thanks |
| 01:14.00 | pattieja | twisted: probably. The copper in the wire would have a reaction and turn green as the ions moved into the potato |
| 01:14.07 | tzanger | twisted: yes -- that is why tip is grounded |
| 01:14.08 | tzanger | http://www.mixdown.ca/kb/?func=view&id=168 |
| 01:14.25 | XARiUS | su: I'm thinking about publishing my config's once I get it all cleaned up. It's just a standard iax/sip 25+ extension commercial office setup. |
| 01:14.37 | XARiUS | someone could just go thru, and replace names and extensions, and be up and running. |
| 01:14.43 | twisted | oh my god |
| 01:14.54 | twisted | i learn new and... oddly useful stuff every day |
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| 01:15.01 | su- | cool...put it up on the wiki |
| 01:15.05 | tzanger | twisted: that is the whole basis for my kb |
| 01:15.05 | twisted | quick linemans polarity checker.... a bag of potatoes |
| 01:15.08 | tzanger | the code is ancient and old |
| 01:15.16 | tzanger | and in PHP... blech. |
| 01:15.22 | tzanger | I have the plans in my head for hte next gen but no time ofr it |
| 01:15.32 | bkw_ | I wanna see valetparking in cvs |
| 01:15.35 | bkw_ | who's with me? |
| 01:15.38 | bkw_ | :P |
| 01:15.47 | twisted | bkw_: got my vote |
| 01:15.49 | tzanger | bkw++ |
| 01:16.00 | XARiUS | I've had such a good experience with *, I might just give myself a few more mos of experience, and start contracting to install in other local companies on the weekend =) |
| 01:16.15 | tzanger | XARiUS: wait for your first few emergencies first :-) |
| 01:16.23 | XARiUS | thats why I figure a few mos |
| 01:16.23 | XARiUS | lol |
| 01:16.30 | XARiUS | emergencies in my office are aplenty. |
| 01:16.54 | YoYo | bkw, ok if I call you? |
| 01:17.02 | pattieja | I'm going to get a multimeter. Will be back in ~ 10 - 15 minutes |
| 01:17.12 | XARiUS | gotta get my wireless connection (internet) in the office fixed up first before I go live though |
| 01:17.33 | XARiUS | there's an antenna on the roof receiving our signal, then bouncing it off the hill behind the buliding into a receiver mounted in my office window on the first floor lol |
| 01:17.52 | XARiUS | we couldn't get a cable from teh roof to our office =/ |
| 01:18.22 | XARiUS | I should post a pic of it, the receiver ducttapped to the window, it's hillarious looking, but it works +) |
| 01:18.44 | XARiUS | it's gonna kill our voip outside the office though, ping times are erratic as hell. |
| 01:19.02 | h3x | run a fuckin wire dude |
| 01:19.02 | h3x | heh |
| 01:19.10 | XARiUS | 4 floors? |
| 01:19.17 | h3x | sure |
| 01:19.23 | XARiUS | thats why we're bouncin it off the hill as it is, there was no way we could do it |
| 01:19.24 | twisted | XARiUS: i've run worse. |
| 01:19.28 | XARiUS | we have to get a contractor out to do it |
| 01:19.38 | XARiUS | + bldg mgmt etcyadda yadda. |
| 01:19.46 | XARiUS | I can do simple wiring, but thats outta my league. |
| 01:20.00 | twisted | XARiUS: where are you? i'll come out there with a concrete drill bit and some cable routing pieces |
| 01:20.02 | h3x | every high rise has cable riser section |
| 01:20.18 | twisted | to hell with cable risers |
| 01:20.22 | XARiUS | yeah I know h3x, the problem is our particular office location in the building. |
| 01:20.22 | twisted | i'll drill holes through the floor |
| 01:20.26 | XARiUS | twisted, san diego =) |
| 01:20.35 | XARiUS | I've got a guy lined up already tho =( |
| 01:20.39 | twisted | XARiUS: got drop ceilings? |
| 01:21.33 | XARiUS | yep, the problem is, the maint closets on each floor don't line up |
| 01:21.33 | XARiUS | they zig zag |
| 01:21.33 | XARiUS | (worst config ever) |
| 01:21.33 | XARiUS | so they have to go down and across on each floor to the drop points |
| 01:22.00 | twisted | hahaha |
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| 01:22.03 | YoYo | hmm... move into a pre-wired building? |
| 01:22.15 | twisted | san diego crackheads designing buildings still, i see.. |
| 01:22.20 | XARiUS | I wired our entire office, I'm not afraid of work, but screw that, I don't get paid enough lol |
| 01:22.32 | XARiUS | nah, if it was just that, we'd get a hardwire t1 |
| 01:23.08 | XARiUS | we only pay $249 for a full 1.5 up and down and a /24 |
| 01:23.08 | XARiUS | and when setup properly, it's as reliable as a telco t1 |
| 01:23.13 | twisted | need to eat code... |
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| 01:23.18 | XARiUS | with the exception of our provider being on lvl3's network.. |
| 01:23.22 | XARiUS | they're pissin me off lately |
| 01:23.38 | XARiUS | every week, it's either a routing loop, or an overloaded router |
| 01:23.56 | XARiUS | Sure they have nice commercials, Sean Connery, and a shitty network, in SD at least =) |
| 01:30.27 | wsuff | haha |
| 01:30.44 | pattieja | I'm back |
| 01:32.20 | pattieja | going to check with the multimeter |
| 01:32.32 | pattieja | I suppose I'm looking for a positive voltage |
| 01:32.41 | pattieja | or would that be a negative voltage? |
| 01:32.43 | pattieja | hmm |
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| 01:32.54 | pattieja | tip is more negative than ring, right? |
| 01:33.37 | pattieja | I wanted to ask kram if an analog cordless 900MHz phone might have anything to do with the problem, too |
| 01:36.00 | glLoadIdentity | i use sip_mysql_friends and * does not show any info with "sip show peers" ... any info about this ? |
| 01:36.32 | pattieja | I've got 45.2 V in one direction and -45.2 V in the other |
| 01:36.56 | pattieja | what does that mean? |
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| 01:38.05 | glLoadIdentity | maybe ringing ??? |
| 01:38.46 | YoYo | pattie: because it's a DC current |
| 01:38.58 | YoYo | one wire is +, the other is - |
| 01:39.11 | YoYo | if you flip them, you also flip the flow of the electrons |
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| 01:41.28 | pattieja | YoYo: yes, but how does that help me identify TIP and RING? |
| 01:41.53 | YoYo | from where? PSTN or an FXS? |
| 01:41.58 | pattieja | PSTN |
| 01:41.59 | twisted | ring is -48vdc |
| 01:42.11 | YoYo | hrrm... not sure. I think tip is green though |
| 01:42.30 | Crippled | twisted: I need to talk to you. |
| 01:42.31 | pattieja | twisted: yes, but how do I measure that to know for sure that the wire I'm holding in my hand is RING and the other is TIP? |
| 01:42.44 | twisted | Crippled: /msg |
| 01:42.48 | pattieja | YoYo: not if they're "twisted" |
| 01:42.49 | pattieja | :) |
| 01:42.50 | YoYo | lemme google |
| 01:43.04 | twisted | pattieja: ring is -48v |
| 01:43.12 | twisted | tip will be positive |
| 01:43.34 | twisted | http://www.ktechonline.com/pdf/Telephone_Line_Measures_042600.pdf |
| 01:43.38 | twisted | read that |
| 01:43.42 | twisted | it tells you how to measure it |
| 01:44.04 | twisted | brb - phone |
| 01:44.33 | pattieja | twisted: right. It says that when the measurement is positive, the RED lead will be connected to TIP and the BLACK to RING |
| 01:44.59 | pattieja | so, if it is correct, then what? |
| 01:45.03 | doughecka | twisted: HAHAHA< dont gEt ELECTROCUTED when you answer!!! |
| 01:45.20 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:45.23 | pattieja | going to check the cable connected to the X101P, moment ... |
| 01:45.39 | doughecka | best way to test is the suck on the RJ-11 connector, and call yourself |
| 01:45.47 | YoYo | oh great... I'm finding references to tip-ground and ring-ground :/ |
| 01:46.16 | chapster | doughecka: <chuckle> |
| 01:46.28 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:47.06 | doughecka | trust me, it workS^TWITCH^TWITCHohyea |
| 01:47.50 | YoYo | pattieja, measure the voltage of each against a ground (like your PC case) |
| 01:47.56 | YoYo | tip is +, ring is - |
| 01:48.04 | chapster | Does your mouth twitch to the side that is the tip? |
| 01:48.13 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:48.20 | YoYo | chapster, no, if you do it properly, your tounge will curl |
| 01:48.20 | doughecka | as does all your limbs |
| 01:48.33 | YoYo | or, your eyelids will go into convulsions |
| 01:48.41 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:48.41 | chapster | I wonder why the telco guys don't use these advanced techniques? |
| 01:49.01 | doughecka | like yea |
| 01:49.08 | YoYo | because, the telco guys know that red it tip, and green is ring |
| 01:49.11 | YoYo | or vis-versa |
| 01:49.27 | pattieja | twisted: ok. according to that document, the RED multimeter lead was connected to the red wire in the two-wire RJ-11 connector, and the BLACK to the green wire. This condition produced +45.2V. Switching the multimeter leads produced -45.2V |
| 01:49.27 | debaser | ok. just for the protection of everyone here: if you actually do that, you're probably taking up the wrong project. |
| 01:49.29 | bkw_ | its two wires... it only goes two ways... use the way that sounds best! |
| 01:49.30 | bkw_ | duh! |
| 01:49.41 | YoYo | bkw, stfu, don't take all our fun away |
| 01:49.43 | YoYo | =D |
| 01:49.53 | bkw_ | god |
| 01:49.59 | doughecka | haha |
| 01:50.08 | debaser | bkw_: the voice of reason speaks! |
| 01:50.08 | bkw_ | their are alot of people in here |
| 01:50.13 | doughecka | I'm tellin ya, sucking on the connector works best |
| 01:50.17 | YoYo | pattie: did you measure both wires against a ground? |
| 01:50.19 | pattieja | so, according to that document, the RED DMM lead was connected to the red wire which means the red wire is TIP and the green wire is RING. Is that what it is supposed to be? |
| 01:50.21 | YoYo | or just against each other? |
| 01:50.29 | pattieja | YoYo: against each other |
| 01:50.36 | YoYo | check each against a ground |
| 01:50.48 | pattieja | YoYo: ok |
| 01:50.49 | YoYo | like your PC case (assuming that your house/office is properly grounded) |
| 01:50.51 | pattieja | checking... |
| 01:51.09 | doughecka | better yet, suck on it and ground your nose |
| 01:51.17 | YoYo | yeah, that'd work too |
| 01:51.23 | YoYo | (for those without multimeters) |
| 01:53.25 | glLoadIdentity | what if no nose and no multimeter ? |
| 01:53.33 | doughecka | joy, its raining |
| 01:53.46 | doughecka | lusers, churchhill downs, har har |
| 01:53.52 | YoYo | glLoad, then your penis will just have to do |
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| 01:54.45 | glLoadIdentity | YoYo: to ground ? |
| 01:54.49 | bkw_ | yo yo yo yo yo yo |
| 01:54.53 | bkw_ | glLoadIdentity whats up boi! |
| 01:55.21 | pattieja | with the BLACK DMM lead used to touch the red and green wires and the RED DMM lead to touch the computer case, I got +47V from the green wire and +2V from the red wire |
| 01:55.37 | YoYo | glload: well, if you dont' have any other ground, you could probably stick your penis in the bathtub plumbing fixture |
| 01:55.47 | YoYo | most cold-water supplies work great as a ground |
| 01:55.57 | pattieja | YoYo: I'll refrain from letting that one into my mind. thanks |
| 01:56.20 | YoYo | pattie: red is tip, green is ring |
| 01:56.30 | pattieja | is that correct? |
| 01:56.48 | YoYo | TIP will read positive a few volts. |
| 01:56.53 | pattieja | YoYo: are you saying that my scenario is that way, or the standard is that way? |
| 01:57.05 | YoYo | RING will read a negative voltage, either 48 VDC |
| 01:57.16 | pattieja | ok |
| 01:57.22 | doughecka | blah, well there goes my uptime |
| 01:57.47 | pattieja | YoYo: I used the black lead on the wires and the red lead on the case at all times |
| 01:57.52 | YoYo | lightning is fucking cool! only weenies shutdown! |
| 01:58.09 | YoYo | Connect RED meter lead to one wire and BLACK meter lead to earth ground; measure voltage. Repeat on |
| 01:58.09 | YoYo | the other wire. |
| 01:58.11 | pattieja | not when you don't have a sufficient surge suppressor or UPS unit |
| 01:58.29 | YoYo | UPSes are for weenies too... well, teh big ones are |
| 01:58.30 | doughecka | I do |
| 01:58.34 | pattieja | YoYo: so I just had the leads backwards. That should only reverse the signs of the voltages, right? |
| 01:58.48 | YoYo | pattieja, I would assume |
| 01:58.53 | pattieja | YoYo:?? and that ain't big? |
| 01:59.09 | YoYo | pattieja, I'd rather have a genny with an automatic transfer switch |
| 01:59.13 | YoYo | but that shit gets expensive |
| 01:59.14 | pattieja | YoYo: so, what is the standard for TIP and RING? |
| 01:59.27 | Syndlcate | I got 2 2200 for my house rack |
| 01:59.31 | YoYo | pattie, well, one gets tipsy, the other's head will start ringing |
| 01:59.41 | pattieja | hmm |
| 01:59.57 | YoYo | we've tried and tried, but we can't get them to stop drinking |
| 02:00.55 | YoYo | ok, pattie, what connector are you using? rj11? 4 or 6 pin? |
| 02:01.09 | pattieja | RJ11 |
| 02:01.18 | pattieja | two wires only, red and green |
| 02:01.28 | pattieja | now we know the red is TIP and the green is RING |
| 02:01.54 | YoYo | rj11 doesn't come in 2 wire |
| 02:02.04 | bkw_ | isn't that rj14? |
| 02:02.14 | bkw_ | the small narrow thingy used for handset cords? |
| 02:02.45 | YoYo | rj11/4-wire: tip/ring/tip/ring |
| 02:02.52 | pattieja | well, there are only two wires in this connector. There are slots for 6 |
| 02:03.01 | YoYo | with teh middle pair being line 1, and the outer pair being line 2 |
| 02:03.01 | pattieja | only the middle two are populated |
| 02:03.16 | pattieja | right. this is a two wire chord |
| 02:03.24 | YoYo | ok, so what's your question? |
| 02:03.44 | pattieja | is it according to standard? |
| 02:03.44 | YoYo | if it's a pre-fab patch cord, then you shouldn't have to do anything with it |
| 02:03.50 | pattieja | right |
| 02:03.51 | pattieja | it is |
| 02:04.01 | YoYo | pattie, you are male or female? |
| 02:04.20 | doughecka | HAHA |
| 02:04.22 | pattieja | the green is on the left and the red is on the right when looking at the connector (wire away from you) |
| 02:04.23 | doughecka | er |
| 02:04.32 | pattieja | YoYo: what do you think? |
| 02:04.36 | YoYo | left/right/top/bottom |
| 02:04.38 | YoYo | doesn't matter |
| 02:04.50 | YoYo | pin 3 is ring, pin 4 is tip |
| 02:06.19 | YoYo | (in a 6-pin rj11) |
| 02:06.19 | pattieja | ok |
| 02:06.19 | pattieja | looks like the cable is correct, then |
| 02:06.19 | YoYo | pattie seems to be a female name, so I'll refer to you as "silly girl" rather than "silly boy" |
| 02:06.19 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:06.19 | pattieja | ehem |
| 02:06.19 | YoYo | pattieja, of course it is... it came made that way, right? |
| 02:06.19 | doughecka | not really |
| 02:06.19 | YoYo | or is this a homemade cable? |
| 02:06.19 | doughecka | pat maybe a male name |
| 02:06.19 | pattieja | YoYo: it came that way |
| 02:06.19 | pattieja | my last name is Pattie, my first is Jason |
| 02:06.19 | YoYo | pat may be male or female... but pattie... |
| 02:06.19 | YoYo | ok, silly boy then |
| 02:06.21 | doughecka | HAHAHA |
| 02:06.23 | pattieja | thanks |
| 02:06.23 | YoYo | whichever... |
| 02:06.25 | YoYo | still silly |
| 02:06.55 | bkw_ | doughecka silly little boi |
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| 02:07.04 | pattieja | so, the cable's fine, and the voltages are fine. So, I don't have to go outside to the DMARK again and switch the pairs, like kram/bkw had me do the last time we went through all this |
| 02:07.19 | YoYo | went through all what? |
| 02:07.32 | h3x | just get a t1 |
| 02:07.33 | pattieja | trying to remove the nefarious echo |
| 02:07.41 | pattieja | h3x: for a single line? |
| 02:07.41 | h3x | heh |
| 02:07.41 | YoYo | omfg... ok echo is your problem? |
| 02:07.42 | bkw_ | tell your telco to check jor line |
| 02:07.46 | doughecka | turn echotraining on? |
| 02:07.47 | h3x | well |
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| 02:07.48 | h3x | get bri then |
| 02:07.52 | YoYo | what happens if you hook up a phone directly to the access box outside? |
| 02:07.53 | doughecka | HEY h3x!! |
| 02:07.53 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:07.55 | YoYo | good sound? |
| 02:07.55 | h3x | hi |
| 02:08.00 | pattieja | YoYo: yep |
| 02:08.07 | pattieja | ouch |
| 02:08.08 | h3x | oh baby |
| 02:08.13 | bkw_ | ;) |
| 02:08.14 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:08.24 | pattieja | bkw_: that was always my fear, that my father would miss and hit me |
| 02:08.27 | pattieja | sometimes happened |
| 02:08.28 | YoYo | ok, now, what happens if you run a nice, new top-quality patch cable from the access box outside, directly to your FXO? |
| 02:08.44 | pattieja | doughecka: that's not very nice |
| 02:08.49 | bkw_ | doughecka so thats what you call it |
| 02:08.55 | pattieja | YoYo: and where would I be getting one of these? |
| 02:09.01 | YoYo | radio shack |
| 02:09.02 | bkw_ | you got a semi |
| 02:09.05 | YoYo | bkw, about $4.99? |
| 02:09.12 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:09.14 | bkw_ | Rat Shack |
| 02:09.21 | bkw_ | they will rip you off and try to sell you gold plated shit |
| 02:09.25 | bkw_ | when you don't even need it |
| 02:09.27 | YoYo | oh yeah |
| 02:09.30 | doughecka | hahaah |
| 02:09.32 | pattieja | YoYo: I've already been through all this. I put the Asterisk PBX box against the window and used the existing patch cable to connect directly to the DMARK |
| 02:09.33 | YoYo | go to wally world... $3.99 |
| 02:09.33 | bkw_ | I hated that job |
| 02:09.37 | h3x | my personal favorite |
| 02:09.42 | h3x | is gold plated toslink fiber cables |
| 02:09.46 | bkw_ | I was number one in the whole region in sales |
| 02:09.47 | doughecka | HAHAHAa |
| 02:09.48 | YoYo | pattie, ok, what happened? still echo? |
| 02:09.50 | doughecka | thats funny |
| 02:10.01 | h3x | how big of a region |
| 02:10.04 | mrunix | monster cable makes fiber patch cords? |
| 02:10.05 | pattieja | YoYo: yes, no change in quality or echo problem |
| 02:10.13 | bkw_ | h3x the dallas region |
| 02:10.23 | h3x | bkw_: You mean #1 in turning customers away from radio shack? heheheh |
| 02:10.26 | h3x | ogh |
| 02:10.27 | h3x | hm |
| 02:10.33 | YoYo | pattie, ok, what is the complete call path? phone > TDM400 > * > X100 > PSTN ? |
| 02:10.34 | h3x | thats a good region |
| 02:10.34 | bkw_ | h3x no I sold 350k in one year |
| 02:10.41 | h3x | did you get commissioned? |
| 02:10.46 | bkw_ | yes |
| 02:10.47 | bkw_ | always |
| 02:10.47 | doughecka | of course |
| 02:10.48 | doughecka | not |
| 02:10.49 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:10.49 | kram | where's samy? |
| 02:10.54 | h3x | 1%? heh |
| 02:11.05 | doughecka | .01 |
| 02:11.07 | YoYo | pattie, hold that thought... I need to step outside for a smoke |
| 02:11.10 | pattieja | kram: just wanted to let you know. I connected a multimeter to the patch cable coming from the incoming line and the green wire was 48V and the red wire was ~2V meaning that the green wire is RING and the red wire is TIP. I assume that means it's not reversed? |
| 02:11.16 | bkw_ | h3x it wasn't enuf to have ot put up with that crap |
| 02:11.33 | pattieja | YoYo: yes, that is now the call path |
| 02:12.01 | YoYo | pattie: ok, what you need to do, is remove your PCI cards, and check the fingers. if they're dirty, you can clean them with a pencil eraser |
| 02:12.09 | pattieja | YoYo: it used to be phone -> asterisk -> (IAX2) -> asterisk -> X101P -> PSTN |
| 02:12.22 | pattieja | YoYo: they're brand new? |
| 02:12.40 | doughecka | searching for the bishop chicken? |
| 02:12.58 | pattieja | hmm. guess he saw I was still here. :) |
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| 02:14.05 | glLoadIdentity | static struct ast_register_list :) |
| 02:14.46 | pattieja | oh well. thanks for all the help, guys |
| 02:14.50 | glLoadIdentity | called regl |
| 02:14.56 | pattieja | need to go home now |
| 02:15.04 | pattieja | see you on Monday |
| 02:15.08 | YoYo | pattie, ok... onto your zapata.conf... what is rxgain and txgain set to? |
| 02:15.27 | pattieja | YoYo: currently, rxgain = 3.0, txgain is commented out and is nowhere else in the filee |
| 02:15.29 | pattieja | file |
| 02:15.47 | YoYo | set both to 0 for all ports |
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| 02:16.01 | pattieja | YoYo: then I can't hear the calling person |
| 02:16.12 | YoYo | then up the txgain on your FXS |
| 02:16.14 | pattieja | they are so low, the line is unusable |
| 02:16.17 | YoYo | or turn up the volume on your phone |
| 02:16.23 | pattieja | the phone is at max |
| 02:16.40 | YoYo | ok, set rx/tx to 0 on the FXO |
| 02:16.45 | YoYo | and up the txgain on the FXS |
| 02:16.50 | pattieja | if I turn up the txgain on the FXS, will that affect echo? |
| 02:17.03 | pattieja | YoYo: part of the problem is voicemail is recorded at extremely low levels |
| 02:17.12 | pattieja | without the rxgain being turned up on the FXOooo |
| 02:17.32 | pattieja | (USB keyboard adapter keeps putting in extra characters) |
| 02:17.34 | XARiUS | mm beer. |
| 02:17.41 | glLoadIdentity | bkw_: do ya know why sip show peers do not show my mysql_friends ? |
| 02:18.06 | pattieja | YoYo: thanks for the hint, I will implement it Monday |
| 02:18.19 | pattieja | it may work for hearing the voicemails, too |
| 02:18.50 | pattieja | but iirc even the WAV files were extremely low with the volume of the sound card turned all the way up when listening via e-mail |
| 02:19.00 | pattieja | talk to you all Monday |
| 02:19.08 | YoYo | electrically, the signals between teh FXO and FXS ports are seperate... so changing your gains around may reduce the echo |
| 02:19.23 | pattieja | k |
| 02:19.24 | YoYo | if not, you need to look at the various echo options... both build-time and run-time |
| 02:24.53 | twisted | ok i'm back |
| 02:25.10 | XARiUS | wb |
| 02:25.20 | twisted | thx |
| 02:26.25 | twisted | hey kram, wb |
| 02:26.31 | kram | thanks |
| 02:26.44 | twisted | pattieja: did you figure out which wire was your ring and which was your tip? |
| 02:27.14 | XARiUS | I think he resorted to drinking mass quantities of alcohol after the tongue and potatoe recomendations... ;) |
| 02:27.21 | twisted | hahaha |
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| 02:27.38 | twisted | green = ring and red = tip, right kram? |
| 02:28.53 | XARiUS | hey twisted, lemme ask u a q if ya don't mind |
| 02:29.04 | XARiUS | I sent a mail out to the list about it, but never got anything back on it.. |
| 02:29.18 | twisted | XARiUS: shoot |
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| 02:29.29 | XARiUS | I was testing the queue stuff (w/ the default moh), and I noticed, none of the moh or "queuing" works with IAX clients |
| 02:29.32 | XARiUS | sip works fine though |
| 02:29.41 | XARiUS | iax clients either just ring and ring and ring, or get hungup on immediately. |
| 02:30.02 | XARiUS | I tried diax, iaxphone, firefly.. and then my ata-186 and xlite for sip. |
| 02:30.13 | XARiUS | gotta clue? |
| 02:30.32 | twisted | odd... moh works fine for my iax clients |
| 02:30.57 | XARiUS | yah, found it odd myself. |
| 02:31.27 | su- | what does the CLI say when you call using iax2 ? |
| 02:31.28 | kram | anybody seen samy? |
| 02:31.36 | kram | i can't duplicate his problem calling his box from here |
| 02:31.37 | twisted | kram: he was here earlier |
| 02:31.41 | kram | i told him to be back in an hour |
| 02:31.44 | kram | and he didn't listen |
| 02:31.46 | twisted | heh |
| 02:32.02 | twisted | he's stilll in here |
| 02:32.07 | kram | so not only does he have a major bug that isn't replicatable except on his panic'g box |
| 02:32.12 | twisted | just not active for 1:01:12 |
| 02:32.16 | kram | and i'm helping him for free |
| 02:32.23 | kram | and he hasn't bought any digium hardware at all |
| 02:32.31 | kram | but he doesn't show up and is keeping me from going to my party |
| 02:32.35 | kram | not cool |
| 02:32.36 | twisted | yeah.. i know... you're being a good kram |
| 02:32.36 | kram | not cool at all |
| 02:32.47 | twisted | actually, a very giving kram |
| 02:32.58 | su- | kram: time for rm -rf / |
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| 02:33.09 | Crippled | so go boooogie mark |
| 02:33.29 | XARiUS | lemme look su, it's in my post, I forget off hand |
| 02:33.38 | kram | i wann get at least *one* of the four new bugs taken care of |
| 02:33.46 | twisted | i hear ya on that one |
| 02:34.15 | XARiUS | su: nothin you actually SEE the moh process and everthing displayed in the cli |
| 02:34.25 | XARiUS | but it just doesn't do anthing on the client but hangup on you |
| 02:34.41 | su- | what was the post called ? |
| 02:34.58 | XARiUS | I just looked, there was no error |
| 02:35.00 | XARiUS | the post was.. |
| 02:35.14 | XARiUS | Queues & IAX2 |
| 02:36.02 | XARiUS | er Queues and IAX2 actually if you're searching for the whole thing. |
| 02:36.12 | kram | okay i'm giving him 15 minutes to get back |
| 02:36.15 | kram | or i'm outta here |
| 02:36.17 | kram | and he can deal with it |
| 02:36.41 | twisted | kram: sounds fair |
| 02:37.28 | twisted | XARiUS: well, first off, are you answering the line before sending them to queues or moh? |
| 02:37.30 | twisted | ie |
| 02:37.33 | twisted | Answer() |
| 02:38.49 | twisted | and while we're at it here |
| 02:38.56 | twisted | i can't seem to force my outgoing connection to iaxtel to use gsm |
| 02:39.03 | twisted | my box keeps reverting to g729 |
| 02:39.10 | twisted | even with disallow=all allow=gsm |
| 02:39.16 | twisted | oddest crap i've seen in awhile |
| 02:40.44 | kram | twisted: call me if he shows up |
| 02:40.48 | kram | (please) |
| 02:40.48 | twisted | kram: will do |
| 02:43.05 | bkw_ | twisted have we told kram the new vocab we came up with |
| 02:43.07 | bkw_ | muahhaha |
| 02:43.15 | twisted | bkw_: i dono |
| 02:43.19 | citats | did anyone ask that guy if he was setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL before starting *? |
| 02:43.27 | twisted | make me a copy and i'll present it to him tomorrow :P |
| 02:43.36 | twisted | citats: what guy? |
| 02:43.49 | citats | twisted: the guy that mark was looking for |
| 02:43.54 | twisted | oh |
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| 02:44.01 | twisted | i dono |
| 02:44.02 | bkw_ | I think he said he was doing that |
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| 02:47.00 | bkw_ | ok twisted have you found any bugs yet? |
| 02:47.13 | twisted | bkw_: with what? |
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| 02:47.45 | bkw_ | with the app_valetparking.c |
| 02:47.57 | twisted | bkw_: haven't messed with it any more than what we did |
| 02:48.24 | bkw_ | ok |
| 02:48.28 | bkw_ | i'm ready fer it |
| 02:48.29 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:48.40 | denon | ltns |
| 02:48.50 | twisted | i'm trying to figure out why my dialplan stopped using my iaxtel includes |
| 02:48.53 | bkw_ | denon wasabi |
| 02:49.02 | denon | bkw: been on the road and in the air the past week |
| 02:49.06 | denon | er, week and a half |
| 02:49.15 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 02:49.27 | denon | luckily, asterisk only crashed twice while I was gone |
| 02:49.36 | bkw_ | shoudn't have crashed at all |
| 02:49.40 | denon | ya. |
| 02:49.43 | denon | it wuvd the zaptel lines .. |
| 02:49.49 | denon | so much that it didnt wanna give em up |
| 02:50.02 | denon | so they hang in use, long after the call was over |
| 02:50.19 | bkw_ | strange |
| 02:50.22 | denon | nod |
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| 02:51.08 | denon | nothin like getting an IM at 35,000 feet ... "all the phones are down" |
| 02:51.16 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:52.02 | kram | make it crash again plz |
| 02:52.35 | denon | kram: erm, no thanks |
| 02:52.46 | denon | but I wont futz with it till it does again, if you want |
| 02:53.35 | Kumbang | hmmm i wonder what's the problem faxing with * |
| 02:54.26 | Kumbang | fax zap to zap ok, sip to sip with spa-2000 ok, buat zap to spa-2000 or vice versa problem |
| 02:54.49 | bkw_ | turn echo can OFF |
| 02:55.26 | timecop | so does grandstream suck? |
| 02:55.31 | timecop | if I'm gonna pick up a couple of these for my house |
| 02:55.39 | bkw_ | timecop thats not the wind you hear |
| 02:55.42 | bkw_ | its greandstrea :P |
| 02:55.44 | bkw_ | no |
| 02:55.46 | twisted | hahaha |
| 02:55.46 | bkw_ | they work ok |
| 02:55.47 | bkw_ | I guess |
| 02:55.49 | timecop | ok cool. |
| 02:55.51 | twisted | the ata devices work ok |
| 02:55.55 | bkw_ | ya |
| 02:55.57 | Kumbang | grandstream doesnt support attendant transfer |
| 02:55.59 | twisted | except they like to lock up on power flux |
| 02:56.00 | bkw_ | the ata devices do great |
| 02:56.07 | twisted | and they have NO rnb rating |
| 02:56.17 | timecop | can I power them over ethernet? |
| 02:56.21 | twisted | i can barely ring a 7 buck wall phone |
| 02:56.23 | twisted | no poe |
| 02:56.42 | bkw_ | the HT-286 is what we will use when we do voice services |
| 02:56.50 | bkw_ | its going to do ilbc |
| 02:56.55 | bkw_ | the beta firmware has ilbc in it now |
| 02:56.55 | timecop | i just want a fucking phone for my house |
| 02:57.02 | bkw_ | so hell just froze smooth over |
| 02:57.14 | timecop | i'm wiring it with ethernet jacks in every room, so I figured I should get with the program and use IP phones |
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| 03:00.44 | samy^ | kram++ |
| 03:00.59 | twisted | kram fix0r you? |
| 03:01.29 | samy^ | yeah |
| 03:01.37 | twisted | good |
| 03:01.39 | twisted | what was it? |
| 03:01.57 | samy^ | simple for loop, he says...not sure where |
| 03:02.16 | twisted | haha |
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| 03:02.48 | twisted | oooooh |
| 03:02.49 | Hogie | I finally found the hardware im gonna use for our pbx, heh |
| 03:02.49 | twisted | i see it |
| 03:03.17 | twisted | Hogie: bacon and lettuce? |
| 03:03.48 | citats | mmmm bacon |
| 03:03.51 | Hogie | yup |
| 03:03.53 | citats | three more strips |
| 03:04.00 | Hogie | I stole the CEO's computer today |
| 03:04.01 | twisted | bacon & lettuce is a refrence to cost a lot |
| 03:04.02 | Hogie | heh |
| 03:04.19 | Hogie | gave her an old dell celeron 600 |
| 03:04.24 | Hogie | and took her HT 2.4ghz |
| 03:04.31 | twisted | hehehhee |
| 03:04.44 | twisted | Hogie: who do you work for? |
| 03:04.59 | twisted | that you can just walk right in and steal his ceo's pc |
| 03:05.08 | timecop | fuck nobody in japland sells grandstreams |
| 03:05.11 | timecop | what a fucking joke |
| 03:05.12 | twisted | s/his/your |
| 03:05.25 | twisted | timecop: that's becase the japs know crap |
| 03:05.25 | timecop | the country is going into a fucking shitheap |
| 03:05.37 | twisted | or you mean the handytones |
| 03:05.44 | timecop | the phones. |
| 03:05.51 | Hogie | heh twisted, its a small company |
| 03:05.53 | timecop | so I dont fucking have to order them from u.s. |
| 03:05.56 | Hogie | and im the IT guy |
| 03:05.58 | timecop | but looks like I'll have to. |
| 03:06.02 | twisted | heh |
| 03:06.04 | Hogie | "Oh, I need your computer to do some upgrades" |
| 03:06.08 | twisted | Hahhahaha |
| 03:06.09 | twisted | yeah |
| 03:06.11 | Hogie | and I bring back another white case |
| 03:06.11 | twisted | upgrades |
| 03:06.18 | timecop | what you say? |
| 03:06.21 | Hogie | looks the same |
| 03:06.23 | timecop | I upgrade machines at work all the time |
| 03:06.30 | timecop | thats why my machines at home are so fast now |
| 03:06.40 | Hogie | like she needs a freaking 2.4 HT with 1 gig ram |
| 03:06.50 | Hogie | to surf the net and check her email |
| 03:06.52 | timecop | you think average idiot can tel the difference between p4 2.6 and a 2g celeron? |
| 03:06.53 | timecop | I think not |
| 03:06.54 | timecop | huhu |
| 03:07.02 | Hogie | not a 2g celery |
| 03:07.05 | Hogie | a 600 celery |
| 03:07.05 | Hogie | haha |
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| 03:07.36 | bkw_ | ok bkw needs money |
| 03:07.37 | Hogie | an old optiplex GX100 (I think) we got off ebay from dell offlease |
| 03:07.44 | bkw_ | soeone send me 100 bucks |
| 03:07.44 | bkw_ | haha |
| 03:07.53 | twisted | bkw_: riiiiiight |
| 03:07.54 | wsuff | bkw_: i need $$ too |
| 03:09.01 | twisted | yeeee gads |
| 03:09.05 | twisted | 71 new spam messages |
| 03:09.15 | twisted | wait |
| 03:09.15 | twisted | no |
| 03:09.20 | twisted | 70 spam |
| 03:09.21 | twisted | one real |
| 03:09.42 | Hogie | haha, I had 130 viruses sent into my mail server today |
| 03:10.19 | kram | okay i'm outta here |
| 03:10.20 | bobmanAtWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.20 | bobmanAtWork | |
| 03:10.22 | bobmanAtWork | viruses. |
| 03:10.28 | timecop | hahahahah wtf |
| 03:10.29 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (~Steve_Und@89.192.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 03:10.30 | bobmanAtWork | 112506 blocked spam. |
| 03:10.36 | timecop | the only jap place selling budgetones wants $300 EACH |
| 03:10.55 | wsuff | holly shit timecop |
| 03:10.59 | timecop | thats for 101 model too |
| 03:11.14 | wsuff | how much would it be to import it yourself though |
| 03:11.17 | timecop | crazy fucks |
| 03:11.24 | timecop | wsuff: thats what im gonna do I'll just order from pulver store |
| 03:11.34 | wsuff | probably cause they can though |
| 03:11.44 | wsuff | probably crazy fees on imports |
| 03:11.59 | wsuff | so they mark it up so people buy locally instead of importing it themsleves |
| 03:12.01 | timecop | cant be much crazier than on digium equipment |
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| 03:12.18 | wsuff | dunno haven't had 1st hand experience |
| 03:12.37 | wsuff | i know my usb adapters i imported from tiwian cost me a pretty penny |
| 03:12.45 | wsuff | even though they were produced by a us company |
| 03:12.48 | CaNaBiS | does dignetworks.com send a tracking number for UPS orders when the order has been filled? |
| 03:13.02 | wsuff | dignetworks eeew that evil work |
| 03:13.12 | CaNaBiS | wsuff, why? |
| 03:13.18 | MustDie | :P |
| 03:13.44 | coppice | MustDie: spandsp has a 4 week uptime on one person's fax server :-) |
| 03:13.53 | timecop | spandsp doesnt work for jap faxes :( |
| 03:13.55 | *** join/#asterisk robl^ (~robl@dsl093-025-118.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 03:13.56 | wsuff | coppice: working properly? |
| 03:14.10 | Hogie | why not move out of japland then? |
| 03:14.15 | MustDie | coppice: we've sent you an bug report :P (From Alex Volkov) |
| 03:14.16 | su- | hahahah |
| 03:14.17 | wsuff | looking to add fax to 1 of my dids |
| 03:14.19 | CaNaBiS | wsuff, I ordered my sp-2000 from there |
| 03:15.04 | coppice | yes, a production system. I have some feedback issues to sort out. the oddest is a number oof Canon machines disconnect during negotiation. The complaints have almost stoppe, though |
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| 03:15.33 | wsuff | cool |
| 03:15.46 | RageMax | if I'm using a voicetronix card, it doesn't use zapata.conf right? |
| 03:15.51 | timecop | who is writing spandsp? |
| 03:16.00 | wsuff | going to have to try that make fix and rebuild it on my RHEL |
| 03:16.18 | timecop | coppice: it doesnt work wiht jap faxes. how do I make it work? |
| 03:16.28 | timecop | (other than moving out of japland) |
| 03:16.51 | timecop | i get pages and pages of debug spam and no fax |
| 03:16.58 | coppice | someone in japan has reported success. It certainly works with most Japanese fax machines in other countries |
| 03:17.01 | timecop | it seems to keep trying to retrain or something for a while. |
| 03:17.35 | Kumbang | spandsp work great on my redhat8 but not redhat9 i wonder why |
| 03:17.51 | timecop | *rolleyes* like that would make a fucking difference |
| 03:19.24 | coppice | Kumbang: It seems to work OK on RH8, 9 and Fedora 1. The main hassle I have had with compatibility is people using libtiff versions other than 3.5.7 or 3.6.0 |
| 03:21.44 | MustDie | coppice: we were able to reproduce an error with HP all in one (pretty recent one) fax machine. .... Fax3Decode2D: Warning, (FakeInput): Premature EOL at scanline |
| 03:22.09 | MustDie | coppice: always in the same place of the document. depends on the document |
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| 03:22.42 | coppice | MustDie: I am looking at your e-mail about this now. Does the final document look OK? |
| 03:23.52 | coppice | MustDiw: Ah, OK. I need to grab the whole set of info from somewhere. I will look into this. |
| 03:24.05 | MustDie | coppice: i was about to paste it again |
| 03:25.50 | PilotPTK-Home | ~seen srinivas |
| 03:25.53 | jbot | srinivas <Srinivas@dialpool-210-214-164-72.maa.sify.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1d 3h 40m 53s ago, saying: 'Can someone tell me where to get some real good channel banks at decent price to play....'. |
| 03:25.54 | *** join/#asterisk Simon (~Simon@dialin47.eagle.ca) |
| 03:27.38 | Simon | Does anyone know someone who has successfully clustered asterisk, or built a multi-machine asterisk installation? |
| 03:33.41 | timecop | :/ |
| 03:35.25 | ken_ | hmm |
| 03:35.33 | Simon | Anyone set up asterisk monitoring using SNMP or Big Brother or mon or something similar? |
| 03:35.33 | robl^ | hrmm |
| 03:35.36 | ken_ | anyone have any good idea how to use linphonec? |
| 03:35.46 | ken_ | or know where there is info on it? |
| 03:36.37 | wsuff | simon: not yet |
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| 03:37.04 | wsuff | simon: hafta finishing getting my setup working b4 i write monitoring setup for it |
| 03:37.49 | Simon | I have some good ideas for monitoring call quality, but I'd like to know if the process is active and the CLI is working or know the processor load and the like. |
| 03:38.15 | Simon | I suppose, that I'll know if the process is active if the system is accepting test calls and the CLI is working, though. |
| 03:38.26 | wsuff | use the manager interface |
| 03:38.31 | Simon | I think you need to test: |
| 03:38.35 | wsuff | to so active channels |
| 03:38.45 | Simon | Hmmm... |
| 03:38.46 | wsuff | show |
| 03:38.54 | wsuff | that way it can be automatic |
| 03:38.55 | Simon | That would also give you a count of active channels, which helps with load balancing. |
| 03:39.39 | wsuff | ya |
| 03:39.48 | Simon | I'd like to have a cap of active calls before placing a new call, and to ensure that the processor load is below an acceptable maximum. |
| 03:39.58 | Simon | And to make sure taht the swap is not in use :) |
| 03:40.21 | wsuff | Simon: be prepared to do some custom tools then to fit your needs or have them written |
| 03:41.05 | coppice | Hum. Monitoring call quality. "God, that conversation is boring. I'll give that an E-" :-) |
| 03:41.28 | wsuff | zaptel from cvs fails due to a make file error =( |
| 03:41.48 | Simon | I'm happy to do custom stuff... we're writing our own load balancer anyway. |
| 03:42.20 | oob | simon - i'm interested in the load balancer. what are you doing in this regard ? |
| 03:42.43 | wsuff | Simon: some people aren't and don't realize what they are getting into with their great ideas =) |
| 03:42.46 | Simon | I think I'm going to have a neat product to measure the integrity of a phone line, regardless of whether it's VoIP or a trunk, or if it's using Asterisk or if it's a carrier's line. |
| 03:43.13 | Simon | I've had 8 people, mostly developer types, involved in my * project already... |
| 03:43.40 | wsuff | simon: integrity of line haha |
| 03:43.54 | wsuff | if(isphoneline) { return shitty} |
| 03:44.27 | coppice | Simon: what is your definition of line integrity? |
| 03:44.54 | Simon | oob, we're just dropping callfiles for most of the traffic. Right now I'm using a perl script to count the number of files in the directory. I'm going to move that to a little cron script that connects to the manager interface or CLI on the local machine (keeping this script real simple to make sure it has no bugs that could cause a lockup!), which writes out the number of active sessions to the cluster controller. |
| 03:45.17 | oob | ok |
| 03:45.24 | PilotPTK-Home | A line that doesn't receive oral sex from it's interns. A trunk that doesn't delve the country into a war it can't support. etc. |
| 03:45.33 | bkw_ | ok |
| 03:45.42 | Simon | I'll test for garbling, unexpected line noise (pops, clicks, hum), unexpected silence (pauses), for connectivity with new calls, and for DTMF transmission. |
| 03:46.16 | coppice | Simon: what is an "unexpected silence"? |
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| 03:46.39 | Simon | You know when you're on a VoIP call, and there's a missing half-second of audio? |
| 03:47.05 | coppice | Simon: Oh, you just mean packet loss? |
| 03:47.17 | Simon | When you're at the margin of how many calls you can fit down your pipe? It breaks up your calls and gives you silence in midsentence. |
| 03:47.21 | timecop | (or misconfigured silence detection) |
| 03:47.22 | Simon | Yes. |
| 03:47.34 | Simon | Packet loss. |
| 03:47.34 | su- | <wsuff> zaptel from cvs fails due to a make file error =( did it really fail..it built fine here |
| 03:47.53 | timecop | wtf are these meritline phones |
| 03:47.53 | coppice | If you switch silence detection on it *is* misconfigured :-) |
| 03:48.49 | wsuff | su-: wierd just removed the makefile and re-checkedout and it was ok |
| 03:48.55 | su- | cool |
| 03:58.16 | ProtocoLD | ok... when trying to transfer a call to another * box, would you use a Dial or a switch in the extentions.conf file ? |
| 04:03.09 | PilotPTK-Home | ProtocoLD: TOTALLY depends on your application. |
| 04:03.23 | PilotPTK-Home | for the most part, we use Dial to transfer between boxes |
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| 04:25.34 | michaell | hello |
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| 04:56.12 | DaemonDazz | hey all |
| 04:56.30 | DaemonDazz | just wondering if IAX2 supports handing off a call like SIP does? |
| 04:57.45 | drumkilla | yep |
| 04:58.15 | DaemonDazz | drumkilla: that in response to my Q or one before i joined? |
| 04:58.23 | drumkilla | your question |
| 04:58.27 | DaemonDazz | ahh, thanks |
| 04:58.32 | drumkilla | no problem |
| 04:58.34 | DaemonDazz | best way to disable that? |
| 04:59.44 | DaemonDazz | i have a central box in an asterisk network that is acting as a gateway to a voip provider and the CDR records are inaccurate... i want to force calls to this voip provider to stay going through the central machine |
| 04:59.45 | drumkilla | i don't know ... this site might have some useful info: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk |
| 05:00.01 | DaemonDazz | yeah, have looked, will look again, ta |
| 05:00.10 | drumkilla | i'm sure it's a simple option in the config ... |
| 05:00.14 | drumkilla | sorry |
| 05:00.23 | DaemonDazz | probably |
| 05:00.32 | DaemonDazz | what sorry for, you answered my question :) |
| 05:00.36 | drumkilla | you look at the options for iax.conf ? |
| 05:01.00 | DaemonDazz | i did, but i'll re-read them |
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| 05:10.58 | robl^ | ~seen oej |
| 05:11.01 | jbot | oej <~oej@apollo.webway.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 3d 10h 46m 5s ago, saying: '~seen anthm'. |
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| 05:22.03 | tommav | Does anyone know why my clients using K-phone would be getting pops and clicks when dialing? |
| 05:22.42 | tommav | ? |
| 05:29.14 | DaemonDazz | anyone know how to disable IAX2 doing a handoff? we need it to stay in the media path for billing reasons ... |
| 05:40.13 | tommav | have there been any general problems that cause popping/clicking during calls? |
| 05:40.27 | tommav | when we call phone-phone it sounds fine |
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| 05:53.52 | brc007 | ~thwack twisted |
| 05:53.58 | jbot | ACTION beats twisted with a Cisco Manual in the leg |
| 05:53.58 | twisted | HAH |
| 05:53.59 | twisted | you cannot do that to me |
| 05:54.00 | twisted | no |
| 05:54.01 | twisted | nevermind |
| 05:54.36 | brc007 | oh yes I can! |
| 05:54.38 | brc007 | har har har |
| 05:55.37 | DaemonDazz | hey twisted |
| 05:55.55 | twisted | I DIDN'T DO IT |
| 05:56.16 | DaemonDazz | ;) |
| 05:57.55 | eeek | hey DaemonDazz |
| 05:58.13 | DaemonDazz | 'lo |
| 05:58.49 | DaemonDazz | having trouble with * handing calls off to the remote end of an IAX2 -> * -> IAX2 link when i don't want it to |
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| 06:03.12 | mrgoby | DaemonDazz: have you tried notransfer=yes ? |
| 06:03.32 | DaemonDazz | i didn't even know that option existed, where is is documented? |
| 06:03.51 | mrgoby | mmm... dunno... i think it is on the wiki maybe |
| 06:04.01 | mrgoby | i think JJ told me bout it |
| 06:04.13 | DaemonDazz | sweet, worked |
| 06:04.15 | DaemonDazz | thanks |
| 06:04.20 | mrgoby | kew |
| 06:04.23 | mrgoby | np |
| 06:04.30 | coppice | where is is documented? why in an IRC message on 1st May at 14:03, of course :-) |
| 06:04.42 | DaemonDazz | i've only been pulling my hair out for 4 or so hours |
| 06:04.44 | Moc_ | does the g729b codec connect to digium for the registration process ? |
| 06:04.50 | DaemonDazz | lol |
| 06:04.53 | citats | Moc: it connects to voiceage |
| 06:05.10 | mrgoby | haha... jbot needs to semantically add this stuff to a wiki page or something |
| 06:05.22 | Moc_ | :/... damn... Im used to delete my * tree, and redownload cvs and reapply my patch when I update stuff .. |
| 06:07.32 | Death_INC | Moc, ewwwwww thats bad you waste everybody's bandwidth heh |
| 06:07.48 | eeek | DaemaonDazz I posted a question about that very same thing here yesterday - I was getting dropped calls with a "Can't tranfser" message |
| 06:07.50 | DaemonDazz | why do you delete your CVS tree? |
| 06:08.03 | DaemonDazz | make clean; cvs update |
| 06:08.08 | Death_INC | that's the purpose of CVS, not having to delete the tree |
| 06:08.18 | BoRiS2 | Death!! |
| 06:08.27 | DaemonDazz | eeek: did you get the answer? |
| 06:08.46 | DaemonDazz | try notransfer=yes :) |
| 06:08.47 | eeek | DaemonDazz : here today, yeah! |
| 06:08.47 | BoRiS2 | I was going to tell you that your latest patches dont compile with cvs but then I saw you updated your sources. |
| 06:09.20 | eeek | can't someone figure out that it would be easier to rememebr stuff if it was all positive, i.e., transfer=no |
| 06:09.49 | DaemonDazz | heh, that'd be too easy on the newbies |
| 06:10.03 | eeek | right! |
| 06:10.10 | Moc_ | Death_INC, well having patch all over the place does make junk at one point |
| 06:10.17 | eeek | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-April/043766.html |
| 06:10.39 | Moc_ | Death_INC, what your page for the moh ? I got to get your new code for the new cvs |
| 06:10.59 | DaemonDazz | eeek: not a global option, i've got it in my incoming context thingos |
| 06:11.17 | eeek | in iax.conf right? |
| 06:11.21 | DaemonDazz | yep |
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| 06:11.44 | eeek | DaemonDazz : but then : http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.user/36331 |
| 06:12.23 | brc007 | ro |
| 06:12.30 | brc007 | ~moh |
| 06:12.38 | DaemonDazz | eeek: i'll PM you my iax.conf contents |
| 06:13.22 | brc007 | ~seen critch |
| 06:13.26 | jbot | critch <critch@steven.basesys.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 77d 12h 37m 11s ago, saying: 'zoa: Thanks. Hopefully that will make John James happy to know.'. |
| 06:13.26 | Death_INC | BoRiS2, heh |
| 06:13.37 | Death_INC | BoRiS2, I fixed that problem too, it just overwrites res_musiconhold.c heh |
| 06:13.57 | DaemonDazz | eeek: doesn't native transfer mean that the audio codec is the same on both channels so it doesn't have to transcode on the fly? |
| 06:14.07 | Death_INC | BoRiS2, I'm working on getting it updated to format_mp3.c and codec_mp3_d.c now btw |
| 06:14.11 | DaemonDazz | native bridge rather |
| 06:14.15 | Moc_ | Death_INC ha, the bugs report was closed, my search got me result now |
| 06:14.19 | Death_INC | DaemonDazz, yea I think so |
| 06:14.32 | DaemonDazz | eg, GSM -> * -> GSM would be a native bridge, but G729B -> * -> GSM isn't |
| 06:14.33 | eeek | thx DaemonDazz |
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| 06:14.43 | Death_INC | moc_, yea we working on other way but I'll keep page around ;) |
| 06:14.59 | Moc_ | I hope it can get into CVS ... |
| 06:15.04 | Death_INC | I have it compiling in asterisk-addons btw, maybe I should post that code |
| 06:15.13 | Death_INC | then you can just noload => res_musiconhold.so |
| 06:15.32 | Death_INC | Moc, it will be modular, with codec_mp3 and format_mp3 in addons |
| 06:16.18 | DaemonDazz | anyways, i have to go do some work, thanks for your help mrgoby and glad the answer helped your too eeek |
| 06:17.53 | Moc_ | nice... I'll try to get those g729b codec working...after sleep... big lanparty tomorow |
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| 06:25.46 | brc007 | who's going to AstriCon |
| 06:26.19 | brc007 | I just remembered I've got a round trip ticket on united to anywhere in the CONUS...might go |
| 06:31.26 | RoyK_ | I got woken up at 0700 by FUCKING CORPS MUSIC outside my bedroom window |
| 06:31.49 | Moc_ | damn phone doesn't work from my friend house hehe ... |
| 06:31.53 | Moc_ | I hate SIP .. |
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| 06:45.23 | isamar | hi folks |
| 06:45.34 | RoyK | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.04 | isamar | I need to disable native bridge for calls from Zap to Zap channels... |
| 06:46.09 | isamar | is this possible? |
| 06:46.17 | RoyK | dunno... |
| 06:46.55 | RoyK | ugh. some fscking music corps came by my window at 0700 this morning, waking me up. ON A SATURDAY! |
| 06:47.13 | RoyK | fscking May 1st |
| 06:47.13 | RoyK | bah |
| 06:47.39 | citats | isamar: calling Dial with t or T will cause chan_zap to not natively bridge |
| 06:48.11 | RoyK | citats: is it possible to disable the bridging without enabling transfer? |
| 06:48.32 | citats | enabling monitor will do it |
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| 06:49.17 | isamar | thanks |
| 06:49.52 | mitcheloc | has anyone here worked with sccp/skinny or the 7970 phone before? |
| 06:50.12 | isamar | another prob.. |
| 06:51.00 | isamar | I receive a inbound call in a x100p and I connect this call to outbound one in another x100p... |
| 06:51.17 | isamar | I can only hear a helicopter noise... |
| 06:51.19 | mitcheloc | i'm trying to get my 7970 to work =), can't get any debug info on asterisk? |
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| 07:01.45 | hmodes | arrgle |
| 07:02.27 | coppice | A helicopter noise? Would this be like the whirr or a Bell 47G, the the more bassier sound of a modern composite rotor design like the Bell 222? :-) |
| 07:03.36 | RoyK | coppice: before or after some Iraqi shot it? |
| 07:04.26 | isamar | hehehe.. funny... but still didn't get to fix it... |
| 07:04.42 | isamar | the problem happens only in the bridge... |
| 07:04.54 | isamar | simple inbound or outbound calls.. no prob. |
| 07:09.04 | isamar | maybe a bug... |
| 07:10.28 | RoyK | A BUG? IN ASTERISK??? |
| 07:11.28 | coppice | A PBX with fleas? :-) |
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| 07:13.01 | srinivas | ~wasim |
| 07:13.04 | jbot | methinks wasim is a farfon's best friend |
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| 07:13.28 | srinivas | anyone seen wasim around? |
| 07:13.39 | RoyK | coppice: cockroaches |
| 07:13.54 | RoyK | ~seen wsuff |
| 07:13.56 | jbot | wsuff is currently on #asterisk (9h 21m 52s). Has said a total of 86 messages. Is idling for 3h 25m 7s |
| 07:13.56 | RoyK | ~seen wasim |
| 07:13.58 | jbot | wasim is currently on #asterisk |
| 07:14.08 | RoyK | ~last wasim |
| 07:14.11 | coppice | RoyK: A termite infestation? |
| 07:14.21 | RoyK | coppice: yeah :) |
| 07:14.31 | srinivas | ~seen wasim |
| 07:14.33 | jbot | wasim is currently on #asterisk |
| 07:15.51 | isamar | RoyK: yep.. it should be a bug.. another guess? |
| 07:16.48 | srinivas | can someone tell me if it is possible to have an interaction with clients and * servers in the following scenario: |
| 07:16.48 | srinivas | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.22 | srinivas | I would like the ast-clients at both ends to talk to each other... |
| 07:17.42 | RoyK | hm |
| 07:18.07 | srinivas | RoyK: what say ? |
| 07:18.36 | RoyK | gotta go out find some microscopic worms or insctoids to feed my fish... |
| 07:18.40 | RoyK | spring time :) |
| 07:18.55 | srinivas | :) |
| 07:20.07 | coppice | RoyK: Can't you use the bugs from your *? |
| 07:20.24 | isamar | :-) |
| 07:20.32 | RoyK | coppice: they don't like silicon... sorry |
| 07:20.53 | srinivas | anyone out there... with similar scenarios... I am trying to use * in the enterprise connected remote offices to a central office |
| 07:20.57 | srinivas | in a VPN scenario |
| 07:21.05 | coppice | RoyK: Wouldn't that give them a problem with a glass tank? |
| 07:21.40 | RoyK | huh? |
| 07:21.57 | coppice | srinivas: Depends how you VPN. VoIP and reliable tunnels don't play nicely. Unreliable tunnels, on the other hand, are reliable :-) |
| 07:22.16 | coppice | RoyK: Glass == silicon dioxide |
| 07:22.32 | RoyK | :) |
| 07:22.46 | RoyK | bbl |
| 07:23.37 | srinivas | I have a Cisco 3750 router that is doing NAT-ting for the boxes in side and does this kind of scenario work with *? if so how? |
| 07:23.52 | srinivas | coppice: I have a Cisco 3750 router that is doing NAT-ting for the boxes in side and does this kind of scenario work with *? if so how? |
| 07:24.32 | coppice | srinivas: how is it VPN'ing? |
| 07:25.16 | srinivas | coppice: in fact there is a vpn server inside the firewall... |
| 07:25.43 | mrgoby | oh oh |
| 07:25.47 | mrgoby | vpn talk |
| 07:25.55 | srinivas | coppice: can i eemail you the network diagram... |
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| 07:28.41 | BoRiS2 | srinivas: You should be able to do it over VPN. Depending on how many people are going to be connecting through the VPN, It might be easier to setup a 2nd * server on the other side of the VPN. |
| 07:29.56 | mrgoby | what is everyone's experience with latency and vpns ? |
| 07:30.36 | mrgoby | are there proven workarounds for the TCP / UDP jump ? |
| 07:31.48 | srinivas | BoRiS2: ok |
| 07:31.51 | BoRiS2 | Its always a good idea to do some latency testing over the VPN connection |
| 07:32.22 | mrgoby | what sorts of numbers do you come up with ? i have not tunneled voip myself |
| 07:32.25 | mrgoby | but am about to try |
| 07:32.36 | BoRiS2 | To get an idea on how reliable the vpn connection is... |
| 07:32.52 | BoRiS2 | anything under 100-125ms is good |
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| 07:33.43 | mrgoby | ok... so that is the minimum latency you were getting essentially ? |
| 07:34.20 | mrgoby | or, maybe not, but that is a decent amount of latency it seems |
| 07:35.56 | BoRiS2 | Usually VPN's create more overhead. |
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| 07:39.15 | ken_ | hmm |
| 07:40.04 | ken_ | la la la |
| 07:40.37 | ken_ | i got a question... when you use the asterisk manager interface to originate a call to a particular extension |
| 07:40.44 | srinivas | ~seen coppice |
| 07:40.49 | jbot | coppice <~Steve_Und@130.157.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 16m 17s ago, saying: 'srinivas: how is it VPN'ing?'. |
| 07:41.04 | ken_ | and then that extension you're connected to dials out, ie, a sip/blah@whatever |
| 07:41.10 | citats | it all depends on what your doing it over.. i've tunneled voip over a few wireless hops |
| 07:41.19 | ken_ | is it normal to hear almost a "stuttering" thing... ? |
| 07:41.41 | citats | but i hate depending on other peoples networks, but its tough to get away from it in one way or another |
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| 07:56.32 | brc007 | ~lart brc007 |
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| 08:12.03 | isamar | having problem bridging zap to zap.. weird noises.. and no audio... |
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| 08:12.48 | isamar | changed already the echocancel from yes to no, changed tx/rx gain... disabled the native bridge with 'T'.. and nothing helped |
| 08:13.25 | eeek | I've never hear of ZAP to ZAP? is it common? |
| 08:13.51 | eeek | I mean POTS to POTS |
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| 08:15.05 | isamar | I received a call but I'm not at home... I want to forward this call to my cellphone... |
| 08:15.21 | isamar | that's the purpose.. |
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| 08:17.41 | plinx | hello |
| 08:18.41 | plinx | Can I ask for any advices? |
| 08:18.52 | isamar | hi.. bienvenuto :-) |
| 08:19.22 | eeek | isamar - I see... I haven't heard of this but why not - it seems like it should work. I'm guessing IRQ problems between the two FXO cards? |
| 08:19.42 | eeek | plinx - since it's free advice the quality varies :) |
| 08:19.56 | plinx | :) |
| 08:19.59 | eeek | isamar - what is your IRQ situation |
| 08:20.09 | plinx | I've just install asterisk |
| 08:20.31 | eeek | isamar : cat /proc/interrupts |
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| 08:21.09 | plinx | now I need to setup the pbx for sip calling over my lan |
| 08:21.23 | eeek | isamar - better yet : cat /proc/interrupts | grep fxo |
| 08:21.25 | plinx | with softphones |
| 08:21.36 | plinx | the question is |
| 08:21.40 | isamar | good guess.. let's see.. |
| 08:22.13 | plinx | where can I find tutorials about an home sip solution? |
| 08:22.18 | isamar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.18 | isamar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.35 | eeek | plinx : tell us what you are trying to do exactly - what is the purpose of * ? |
| 08:22.51 | eeek | isamar so one of the FXO is sharing |
| 08:23.12 | eeek | the via is a RAID controller or something? |
| 08:23.47 | plinx | I'd like to do a sip call from two of my home computers |
| 08:24.01 | eeek | on the same LAN? |
| 08:24.17 | plinx | I think to use a server and two clients |
| 08:24.25 | plinx | yes, in the same lan |
| 08:24.38 | isamar | soundboard...]:-( |
| 08:24.53 | eeek | plinx : here are two good links to start: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html |
| 08:24.53 | isamar | I'll turn it off and check.. thanx |
| 08:24.55 | eeek | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html |
| 08:25.16 | eeek | isamar - you will have to pull the borad out or disable it in BIOS |
| 08:25.35 | plinx | thanks :) |
| 08:25.36 | eeek | plinx - I have this kind of system working at my office |
| 08:25.46 | eeek | wait I have one more really good one |
| 08:26.32 | isamar | thanks dude.. |
| 08:26.42 | isamar | eeek: one more question... |
| 08:26.42 | eeek | http://automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm |
| 08:27.13 | eeek | I have a list of six really good links to starting out with * but it isn't here :( |
| 08:27.17 | isamar | there's any easy way to send an event to a windows machine of inbound call? |
| 08:27.44 | eeek | isamar - you tried removing the sound card and it helped? |
| 08:28.09 | eeek | don't know the answer of the other quest, sorry |
| 08:28.28 | isamar | I'll disable the card in the bios when I arrive at home.. now, I'm remote |
| 08:28.32 | eeek | plinx you have asterisk working ? |
| 08:28.32 | plinx | eeek thanks |
| 08:28.50 | plinx | I've just installed it |
| 08:28.58 | eeek | does it run and seem to work? |
| 08:29.32 | eeek | plinx and do you already have one or more clients set up? |
| 08:29.35 | plinx | yes, it runs and seems to work |
| 08:29.54 | eeek | plinx what clients and where (what box)? |
| 08:29.57 | plinx | I don't have any client now |
| 08:30.14 | eeek | you want SIP or IAX2 clients? Windows or ? |
| 08:30.37 | eeek | isamar I'll be interested in seeing your results |
| 08:30.46 | plinx | I need a SIP client for testing |
| 08:31.07 | plinx | all under linux |
| 08:31.09 | plinx | :) |
| 08:31.11 | eeek | a lot of people hate it but I think X-Lite is the best of breed www.xten.com |
| 08:31.14 | eeek | OOOOOPPPPSSS |
| 08:31.26 | eeek | linux SIP clients.... |
| 08:31.28 | eeek | eeewwww |
| 08:32.45 | plinx | :) |
| 08:32.59 | plinx | I find communicator |
| 08:33.10 | plinx | a SIP java client |
| 08:33.33 | eeek | plinx : http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Open%20Source%20VOIP%20Software |
| 08:34.23 | eeek | plinx : http://snad.ncsl.nist.gov/proj/iptel/ |
| 08:34.59 | eeek | ok that's where the SIP communicator comes from |
| 08:35.11 | plinx | what you think about pingtel sipxchange? |
| 08:35.23 | eeek | I know nothing about that, sorry |
| 08:35.51 | plinx | it's a LGPL PBX |
| 08:35.59 | plinx | http://www.pingtel.com/a_opensource.jsp |
| 08:36.01 | eeek | I find it's Ironic, the lack of a number of SIP clients for linux... |
| 08:36.21 | eeek | there are several decent ones for windoze |
| 08:37.18 | plinx | eeek : many thanks for now |
| 08:37.24 | jas_Williams | this is a decent client for linux http://www.sjlabs.com/products/sjp-x.html |
| 08:37.46 | eeek | hey jas_ howzit? |
| 08:38.49 | plinx | jas_Williams, thanks |
| 08:38.56 | Zeek | ah finally |
| 08:39.10 | plinx | now I must go away :) |
| 08:39.20 | plinx | see you |
| 08:39.56 | Zeek | later plinx |
| 08:40.01 | brc007 | blah |
| 08:40.06 | brc007 | DUN dun dun |
| 08:40.11 | brc007 | ~badgerbadgerbadger |
| 08:40.14 | jbot | ACTION sings badgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadger...ooooh! it's a snake..badgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadger..mushroom mushroom!...badgerbadgerbadger |
| 08:40.14 | brc007 | ~badger |
| 08:40.17 | Zeek | beethoven? |
| 08:40.39 | plinx | bye |
| 08:40.41 | brc007 | ~softphones |
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| 08:41.58 | Zeeek | ah |
| 08:42.25 | Zeeek | enfin libre |
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| 08:46.49 | brc007 | ;klj |
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| 09:35.23 | chayewala | ~softfone |
| 09:35.29 | chayewala | hmm |
| 09:35.43 | chayewala | no mention of worlds first softfone ? |
| 09:35.52 | chayewala | first voip fone? |
| 09:35.54 | chayewala | man |
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| 10:05.00 | brc007 | chayewala: huh? |
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| 11:25.05 | timecop | is it possible to "lock" grandstream to a particular SIP/whatever prodiver? |
| 11:25.08 | timecop | er provider |
| 11:25.30 | timecop | I found this jap place selling them for liek $100 each, but I dont wana order some piece of shit that will only work wiht their service |
| 11:25.36 | brc007 | http://www.techcomedy.com/text_con.php?proceed=28345&max=51&mis_count=827&type=email |
| 11:25.36 | timecop | can setup or something menus be disabled on it? |
| 11:25.42 | brc007 | roflmao |
| 11:26.31 | timecop | or i thnk I'll just order the shit from pulver. 2x grandstreams from pulver = $130, 2x grandstreams from japs = $250 |
| 11:26.43 | timecop | and a possibility that the jap ones will be locked to some commie SIP provider |
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| 11:28.26 | brc007 | timecop they've proally got a password that can be set |
| 11:28.44 | brc007 | just order new for $65 from pulver |
| 11:28.50 | brc007 | or |
| 11:28.51 | brc007 | better yet |
| 11:28.54 | brc007 | don't order any |
| 11:29.03 | brc007 | get 7905G's from ebay for $85 |
| 11:29.56 | brc007 | yo timecop |
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| 11:35.21 | brc007 | byeeeeieeeeee l8tr see ya round, byebye niteynight |
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| 11:36.11 | brc007 | what for |
| 11:41.02 | doughecka | AHAHAHAA |
| 11:41.02 | doughecka | er |
| 11:41.03 | doughecka | hi |
| 11:43.44 | brc007 | OH OHHHH OHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 11:43.50 | brc007 | http://www.techcomedy.com/text_con.php?proceed=28345&max=51&mis_count=827&type=email |
| 11:44.03 | brc007 | DOUGHECKA!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:44.06 | brc007 | NIGHT! |
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| 11:51.11 | brc007 | 98 bugs!!!!!!!! WOOT NINETY EIGHT BUGS! |
| 11:52.56 | coppice | Yep. 98 is full of bugs |
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| 11:54.14 | brc007 | er |
| 11:54.15 | brc007 | no |
| 11:54.21 | brc007 | 98 bugs on the tracker |
| 11:54.54 | brc007 | lot of em are patches too |
| 11:55.43 | brc007 | nite |
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| 11:59.40 | coppice | I think I should call my next project quilt, and build it entirely from patches :-) |
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| 12:01.28 | ScaredyCat | roflmao! http://www.brickfrenzy.com/sculpture_badger.html |
| 12:04.40 | alladin | someone can give me an hand with an hfc-s card? |
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