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00:00.05bkw_hehe
00:00.07bkw_you got the old board
00:00.15Jesse-old maid
00:00.17bkw_modify wcfxo.c
00:00.38timecophurm
00:00.47timecopanyway, we all like to support digium
00:00.51timecopso I didnt buy mine from ebay
00:00.55bkw_exactly
00:00.55timecopor some other crappy place.
00:01.03bkw_I tell everyone not to buy from digitnetworks
00:01.07bkw_because they never responded to me
00:01.16bkw_they were claiming they support open src telephony
00:01.20bkw_but which? who? how?
00:01.21Jesse-me too timecop but digium always forgets to bill me
00:01.28bkw_haha
00:01.38Jesse-infact i have to call them over and over and DEMAND they invoice me
00:01.46bkw_haha
00:01.54Jesse-"well the invoice isn't on my desk so you must have paid"
00:01.57Jesse-"but i didn't pay!"
00:02.11atacommhmm.....wish they would forget to bill me....lol, i'd save a ton of money
00:02.25Jesse-right now i just guess at what i owe them and send a check
00:02.30timecopnice overlay of "digitnetworks" on that card
00:02.37Jesse-and sometimes they don't deposit my checks
00:02.37Jesse-haha
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00:02.48CubaTELEhey
00:02.52dantI wish they'd send me a tdm with FXO module just to make me happy
00:03.10timecopeh that doesnt work like that
00:03.18expousrdant: yup.
00:03.26Jesse-i must be lucky
00:03.30Jesse-i'll order tdm's for everyone
00:03.31CubaTELEdejenme hablar habalr espanol haber si tengo suerte...:(
00:03.43CubaTELEjejeje
00:03.53Jesse-caramba!
00:03.59CubaTELEjejeje
00:04.01dantIn return, I'll try and make it work with UK callerID, but I neeeed it :(
00:04.11CubaTELEvalla eso me suena familiar
00:04.22Jesse-que
00:04.27CubaTELEmi idioma
00:04.29CubaTELEjeje
00:04.42Jesse-mmmmm just like tacos
00:04.52CubaTELEjeje yes a lot
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00:05.04CubaTELEwith a lot picante
00:05.05CubaTELEjejee
00:05.06h3xsome day, asterisk is gonna fork
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00:05.08Jesse-k
00:05.24timecopinto what?
00:05.32ntheory_Does anyone know how to get Asterisk to pass DTMF on MeetMe confs and three-way calls?
00:05.36h3xa real copy left ?
00:05.45CubaTELEaqui tratando de cfg h323 en mi asterisko
00:06.05foomh3x: that'd only happen if digium stopped funding most of the development.
00:06.06CubaTELEtodo por un proveedor uqe solo da eso
00:06.19timecopntheory_: what? inband DTMF or what?
00:06.19h3xif theres no dual license, they can't steal the code back into their "commercial" distribution
00:06.20foomh3x: which may happen someday, but it doesn't really matter
00:06.21atacommfoom: don't count on it
00:06.23h3xwhat money?
00:06.29timecopntheory_: I got out of band dtmf going through meetme jsut fine
00:06.31ntheory_timecop: Yeah, inband.
00:06.36h3xare the bug marshals on the payroll?
00:07.03timecopshrug
00:07.08timecoppolitical bullshit
00:07.14ntheory_timecop: They're all muted in the middle so the three-way party can't detect them.
00:07.14h3xexactly
00:08.05CubaTELEjajaj
00:08.23jcdutton* SLINR  audio format. What is that, 8bit, or 16 bit ?
00:08.24dantthe bug marshals get paid, maybe not cash, but with a warm fuzzy feeling inside
00:08.42citatsh3x: this is thankless work we all do... everyone wants fixes but nobody wants to pony up the cash/incentive for them
00:08.59CubaTELEI need some frendly people that i can to paid a litter for cfg h323
00:09.01CubaTELEjajaja
00:09.02CubaTELEja
00:09.04h3xso those thousands of boards that digium is selling can't support that?
00:09.55citatsh3x: i dont see how its related... remove chan_zap and zaptel from the equation and i'm still contributing a pile of code with only a few people even appreciating it
00:10.23timecopyeah, like who uses ISDN anymore except japs
00:10.26danth3x, if they sell 1000 boards and make $100 clear profit on each, it still doesn't pay a salary for many people
00:10.45citatstimecop: i use ISDN all the time
00:10.45h3x$100 profit? are you crazy?
00:10.52expousrtimecop - some of the midwest has sane isdn tarrifs
00:11.06h3xit costs about $300 to manufacture a T400P
00:11.10h3xprobably half that to make a TE410P
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00:11.39citatswell i'm a digium supporter, i dont care what everyone else does... but i'm sick of this shit
00:12.15*** join/#asterisk doughecka (~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net)
00:12.46h3xall im saying is someone can't half-ass a software license model
00:12.55h3xyou go commercial and support it for real or you do open source
00:12.57Jesse-citats i want to pony up the cash
00:12.59Jesse-but u don't return my emails :P
00:13.11Jesse-or you're too busy etc.
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00:13.40atacommspeaking of which, one about those austrailians?  I keep trying to setup distribution with Virbiage and they keep ignoring me
00:13.41foomh3x: why? it seems to be working fine
00:13.44CubaTELEhello
00:13.46CubaTELEhola
00:13.46PrimerCan asterisk function as a SIP proxy that would do everything for a client behind nat, rtp included?
00:14.05citatsJesse-: last few days have been crazy... got a few mil pps DoS to deal with and stuff
00:14.14Primerif so, how the HELL does one set that up? I can't seem to get that working
00:14.15h3xi suppose. I just wish they would pay those who actually contribute a lot of the code base
00:14.19Jesse-yah...
00:14.41h3xit isn't like other projects that arent making any money
00:14.53h3xmost of the hardware they sell they didn't even develop
00:14.57h3xwell
00:15.07citatsh3x: how is that relevant... tell that to cisco/lucent/etc.
00:15.17h3xuntil they redesigned the T1/E1 cards to gain a bigger profit
00:15.36Jesse-h3x digium should be making money on support and development
00:15.37Jesse-but they don't
00:15.48Jesse-and i bought a tdm card from them for $500
00:15.51h3xsure, they dont because they get backlogged from having no employees
00:15.52citatsh3x: if thats all you think than you are way off base... the te410p is a much better design than the t400p
00:15.54Jesse-i sent them a check and they never even deposited it
00:16.06Jesse-i called them 3 times to ask about it and they just blew me off
00:16.09Jesse-so i was like fuck it
00:16.12atacommi think they have 16 employees
00:16.13dantavaya - buy company, sell their products, with a sticker over the old name on the box, give it minimal support
00:16.49Jesse-they're turning away development business because they don't have enough people
00:16.53Jesse-its kind of odd
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00:17.04Jesse-maybe they don't want to make any money
00:17.45h3xor they have a few holy shit projects that make a lot of money
00:17.53Jesse-yah
00:17.53jcduttonJesse-: what was the work you needed doing ?
00:17.57h3xwhich is what usually happened in a development house
00:18.02Jesse-things related to call queue'ing
00:18.03h3xs/ed/ens/
00:18.29Maverici just configured my tmd400 and i'm getting no dial tone
00:18.38Jesse-probably easy stuff
00:18.42Jesse-i just don't know c that well
00:18.48Jesse-i can make some changes
00:18.55jcduttonJesse-: like call center type queuing ?
00:18.58Jesse-yah
00:19.05Jesse-my business is callcenter
00:19.16jcduttonJesse-: I thought * already did that
00:19.20Jesse-yah it does
00:19.24Jesse-i just need to develop on it
00:19.30Jesse-like do quality of service
00:19.39Jesse-i.e. give some queue's a higher priority with the same pool of agents
00:19.58expousranyone doing any followme findme type apps in production?
00:20.04timecopMaveric: did you edit zaptel/zapata and run ztcfg?
00:20.11Jesse-and also theres some things i need fixed in agentcallback
00:20.21tclarkJesse-: icd is now bridging calls and is designed for call cneter ops,
00:20.30Jesse-icd?
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00:21.24tclarkhttp://www.callenish.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tctel/asterisk/apps/icd see modules.txt or grab the tar ball and play with it
00:22.15Jesse-they use FSM model?
00:22.37tclarkits lego for call q's inbound outbound, via dial plan or under cti control
00:23.22tclarkqualified YES to the FSM, we still ahve to sit on top of a very decidedly NON-FSM :)
00:23.31MustDieany ideas how to kill it ?
00:23.31Jesse-yah
00:23.50tclarksee icd_caller.c the FSM is in there
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00:24.07Jesse-is there some kind of docs that says what it all does
00:24.12brc007.
00:24.16jcduttonMustDie: are they using sound cards, or stand alone phones
00:24.18Jesse-and how it works
00:24.30tclark<tclark> http://www.callenish.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tctel/asterisk/apps/icd see modules.txt
00:26.38Jesse-oh yah
00:26.39Jesse-heh
00:26.40Jesse-ok
00:26.42Jesse-i found it
00:26.44Jesse-gooooooooooooooooal
00:26.55MustDiejcducton: stand alone phones
00:27.14ChulJinoh my, that was no fun
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00:27.40jcduttonMustDie: the phones should be doing the echo cancelation
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00:28.02ChulJinmy company bought 5 BT100s and I set them up to register with my personal * server, call among themselves, have voicemail, &c.
00:28.05MustDiejcdutton: i know, but it looks like it does not happend
00:28.23ChulJinthey finally set up their own * server and I set it up roughly the same
00:28.25mitchel_anyone here know about the poe for cisco phones? bkw said i can use linksys which i'm going to do for some phones, but i want a power over ethernet switch for about 6 phones if i can
00:28.27brc007what's a Bt100
00:28.32brc007hardphone?
00:28.45dougheckayah
00:28.49ChulJinbut they keep ignoring my requests to update the server on their phones, which are scattered around in their respective homes
00:28.49dantbrc007, squidgy hardphone
00:28.50dougheckabarbietone
00:29.01brc007squidgy?
00:29.01brc007heh
00:29.05brc007oh barbietone
00:29.05brc007nm
00:29.06CubaTELEcaballero
00:29.30ChulJinso I've just been jerry-rigging extensions.conf on each side so that they think it's one big *...
00:29.49MustDieis any way i can force echo cancellation on SIP --> & ---> SIP ?
00:30.01dougheckaooh, a giggling directory
00:30.06CubaTELEalguien que pueda ayudarme
00:30.16dougheckastop having fun
00:30.23brc007HAPPY BIRTHDAY KRAM!!!!!
00:30.34dougheckaTODAYS KRAMS BDAY?!?!?!?!?
00:30.37ChulJinso exten => 1234,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}&IAX/user:pass@the-other-server/${EXTEN}@internal)
00:30.37brc007uhm
00:30.38brc007duh
00:30.52jcduttonDoes kram have a birthday every day ?
00:31.01ChulJinit's lucky Dials with & are simultaneous, cuz obviously one of those two channels is *not* gonna answer :P
00:32.25Primersorry to repeat but I must, this is driving me nuts...can asterisk FULLY proxy a sip client behind NAT? RTP and all? if so, can someone point me to a config that actually WORKS?
00:32.58dougheckalol
00:33.01brc007~kram wishlist
00:33.02jbothmm... kram wishlist is at http://snurl.com/kram_amazon and http://snurl.com/kram_thinkgeek
00:33.03dougheckadrove me nuts too
00:33.17Primerdoughecka: which means? you never got it to work?
00:33.20Primeror you did?
00:33.31PrimerApr  8 17:45:48 NOTICE[65541]: chan_sip.c:5623 handle_request: Registration from '"Daniel Ceregatti" <sip:1000@home.sh.nu>' failed for '216.239.128.141'
00:33.35Primerthis is what I'm getting
00:33.38dougheckanever did, but then, our firewall SUX
00:33.47dougheckabeyond all measure
00:34.00brc007http://www.thinkgeek.com/apparel/hoodies/583e/
00:34.04Primerwell, the NAT box is on the same network
00:34.14Primerso reaching it isn't a problem
00:34.35Primerand since it's also the gateway, getting beyond it isn't a problem
00:34.36hmodesblarrgh
00:35.19dougheckaand we cant update the firewall because the vpns may get disabled... requiring that we update all the rest of thenm
00:35.37doughecka:/
00:35.42Primerheh, our pix rebooted after about 1 year of uptime
00:35.47dougheckaawww
00:35.49doughecka:P
00:35.51Primerthing is, the admin never did wr mem
00:35.56dougheckaeep
00:35.59Primerso the config was over 1 year old
00:36.06dougheckawithout righting to mem?
00:36.07dougheckaLOLOLOL
00:36.13Primerneedless to say, people were pissed
00:36.15dougheckawriting*
00:36.42Primerto top it off, he and the router guy were out of town, so I had to fix it
00:36.52dougheckalol
00:36.59dougheckasux 2 b u
00:37.00doughecka:P
00:37.30Mavericdoughecka do you use a tdm400?
00:37.40dougheckanope
00:37.45dougheckaI dont even USE asterisk
00:37.45doughecka:P
00:38.09zigmanyate ?
00:38.24doughecka?
00:38.26Mavericdoes anyone here have a lot of expirance with a tdm400?
00:38.47zigmannever mind
00:38.50jcduttonMaveric: Umm....what is a tdm400 ?
00:39.01Mavericah man
00:39.04Maverici'm f'ed
00:39.05Mavericlol
00:40.17jcduttonMaveric: but seriously, if I know what type of device it was, I might be able to help
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