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| 00:05.40 | brc007 | here this's pretty good http://www.augustoheli.com/videostuff/videoarchive/JasonKrause_(tipspeed)/JasonKrausePatriot4.mov |
| 00:06.49 | brc007 | everyone leaves as soon as I find vids |
| 00:07.15 | brc007 | heli vids >= rocket vids >:\ |
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| 00:09.21 | brc007 | what now marlowe |
| 00:09.28 | marlowe_desktop | eh? |
| 00:09.30 | marlowe_desktop | nothing now |
| 00:09.32 | JerJer | he just likes to bitch |
| 00:09.43 | marlowe_desktop | me? |
| 00:09.45 | brc007 | yes |
| 00:09.45 | brc007 | you |
| 00:09.52 | marlowe_desktop | I do? That's news to me. |
| 00:10.10 | marlowe_desktop | I just jumped in the middle of the conversation and was confused, that was it? |
| 00:10.40 | brc007 | just watch the video and we don't have to kill you |
| 00:10.44 | marlowe_desktop | JerJer: Since when do I like to bitch? |
| 00:11.47 | marlowe_desktop | brc007: It's downloading, cable modem running like crap since the storm started. |
| 00:11.54 | brc007 | aww |
| 00:12.06 | brc007 | it's huge but the only one I could find in mov format |
| 00:12.19 | brc007 | the other crash one I posted is pretty good if you've got WiMP |
| 00:12.25 | marlowe_desktop | download just froze too, I should do this from my desktop. |
| 00:12.29 | marlowe_desktop | err, laptop |
| 00:12.55 | marlowe_desktop | It won't go past 7471104 bytes |
| 00:15.06 | brc007 | http://runryder.com/heli/funflies/Phoenix2004/ check out the night flying about half way down |
| 00:15.13 | brc007 | yes we fly em at night |
| 00:16.12 | marlowe_desktop | I always wanted one of those |
| 00:16.26 | brc007 | what |
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| 00:16.43 | marlowe_desktop | :) |
| 00:16.48 | marlowe_desktop | brb |
| 00:16.54 | marlowe_desktop | This computer keeps freezing |
| 00:17.03 | brc007 | the one you'll see in the video costs about 1 te410p...not including the engine |
| 00:17.08 | marlowe_desktop | I think its running on 64mb ram. |
| 00:17.24 | brc007 | engine is about a t100p |
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| 00:18.47 | Jesse- | hero |
| 00:19.13 | brc007 | couple of cool pics here from a camera mounted on a heli http://runryder.com/helicopter/t94323p1/?highlight=phoenix |
| 00:19.18 | brc007 | hi Jesse- |
| 00:20.10 | Jesse- | hi |
| 00:21.46 | h3x | iaxphone 2.0 looks pretty spiffy |
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| 00:23.08 | brc007 | oh really |
| 00:23.37 | h3x | sucked more than a hooker on charleston bus stop... er like id know.. |
| 00:24.37 | brc007 | is it still in VB? |
| 00:25.09 | h3x | i donno.. hope not |
| 00:25.18 | h3x | if thats VB they did a good job... |
| 00:25.49 | h3x | speed dial integration is moving along.. |
| 00:26.07 | brc007 | gimmie url dialing from the browser |
| 00:26.22 | brc007 | which reminds me...guess I'll email em and let em know it'd be handy |
| 00:26.52 | h3x | yeah |
| 00:26.53 | brc007 | how does speed dial integration work exactly? |
| 00:27.02 | h3x | outlook or whatever i think |
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| 00:27.09 | brc007 | outlook? |
| 00:27.16 | brc007 | oh ok |
| 00:27.20 | brc007 | lookout you mean |
| 00:27.37 | h3x | hahaha |
| 00:27.43 | h3x | I type in iaxphone in google |
| 00:27.46 | h3x | Did you mean: saxophone |
| 00:27.49 | brc007 | same |
| 00:27.50 | brc007 | here |
| 00:28.19 | h3x | hm |
| 00:28.19 | brc007 | Another version of this product is already installed, installation of this version can not continue |
| 00:28.24 | brc007 | that's way stupid |
| 00:28.25 | h3x | auto answer huh |
| 00:28.31 | h3x | yeah i know |
| 00:28.39 | h3x | 11. URL transmission: send URLs to the remote party (guide the remote party's browser to specific web pages). |
| 00:28.42 | h3x | HURM |
| 00:28.43 | h3x | there you go |
| 00:29.00 | brc007 | no |
| 00:29.36 | brc007 | I want <a href=iax:94805551212@10.10.10.220>click here to call john doe</a> |
| 00:29.54 | JerJer | use the callto handler |
| 00:30.06 | brc007 | ? |
| 00:30.07 | h3x | ? |
| 00:30.09 | h3x | JINX!@ |
| 00:30.21 | brc007 | hush up and let the man speak |
| 00:30.23 | JerJer | callto:1234@ip.address |
| 00:30.30 | h3x | in what |
| 00:30.33 | h3x | manager? |
| 00:30.34 | JerJer | any url |
| 00:30.59 | JerJer | http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/netmeet/nm3_1l4o.asp |
| 00:31.11 | MustDie | brc: you have to write special protocol handler for IE |
| 00:31.25 | JerJer | its not hard...its just a registry entry |
| 00:31.36 | brc007 | oh cool |
| 00:32.06 | brc007 | cmoupter locking up, sec |
| 00:32.07 | MustDie | brc: just copy what ever is under call: section in /protocols/handlers |
| 00:32.14 | MustDie | and name it AIX |
| 00:32.15 | h3x | so what iax phones support callto: |
| 00:32.20 | MustDie | so only you can use it ;) |
| 00:32.22 | JerJer | any of them can |
| 00:32.37 | MustDie | err IAX |
| 00:32.44 | h3x | how can that be |
| 00:33.23 | MustDie | h3x: i don't think any of them supports that |
| 00:34.25 | MustDie | traceroute:// |
| 00:34.40 | brc007 | estara supports dialing with sip:5001@10.10.10.220 from the browser and it pops up and dials |
| 00:35.42 | brc007 | I'm a bit confused here... |
| 00:37.41 | JerJer | it registers the sip handler |
| 00:37.56 | JerJer | any windsucks app could register an iax handler |
| 00:38.37 | h3x | why dont they :P |
| 00:38.42 | BSDTech | estara ? |
| 00:38.52 | JerJer | don't ask me |
| 00:38.53 | h3x | at least iaxphone has hold now |
| 00:38.58 | brc007 | I'm looking through the registry to try to figure out how tho change the handlers |
| 00:39.23 | brc007 | BSDTech: google.com should be the first link |
| 00:39.31 | h3x | estara.com |
| 00:39.32 | h3x | heh |
| 00:39.37 | h3x | they're one of my long distance customers |
| 00:39.38 | brc007 | there you go |
| 00:40.06 | MustDie | what do you people think about dell 1550 |
| 00:40.14 | MustDie | how bad is it ? |
| 00:41.33 | h3x | haha |
| 00:41.37 | h3x | i got the worst techno music for my MOH |
| 00:41.47 | Jesse- | smoove |
| 00:42.23 | brc007 | iaxphone doesn't seem to register the iax handler |
| 00:42.40 | brc007 | comeon somebody tell me how |
| 00:42.50 | h3x | i called sokol and told him on his voicemail |
| 00:42.58 | h3x | maybe i should set up an autodialer |
| 00:43.03 | h3x | to call and leave him that message over and over |
| 00:43.09 | brc007 | what did you tell him? |
| 00:43.12 | BSDTech | is gnophone still being developed or is it dead in the water |
| 00:43.17 | brc007 | dead afaik |
| 00:43.17 | h3x | add url handling |
| 00:43.20 | brc007 | oh |
| 00:43.21 | h3x | wll |
| 00:43.29 | h3x | actually i asked for the iax pop thing |
| 00:43.36 | h3x | which i just tried and dosent work |
| 00:43.37 | Jesse- | is there any iax phone with real good sound quality? |
| 00:43.50 | brc007 | MustDie: do you know how I would switch sip:9999@1.2.3.4 to get sent to xlite instead of estara? |
| 00:44.11 | BSDTech | well iax needs to be pored to fbsd now |
| 00:45.02 | MustDie | brc007: if x-lite does not support that, you would have to write an app, to do it |
| 00:45.13 | MustDie | to run x-lite with parameters or something |
| 00:45.19 | brc007 | "<MustDie> brc: just copy what ever is under call: section in /protocols/handlers and name it IAX" where is /protocols/handlers? |
| 00:45.29 | MustDie | brc: that's for netmeeting |
| 00:45.31 | brc007 | yeah that's what I had thought |
| 00:45.33 | brc007 | ahh |
| 00:45.44 | brc007 | I don't really want to use netmeeting :\ |
| 00:46.09 | MustDie | brc: there you go. if you need a good software, write your own then. |
| 00:46.22 | MustDie | brc: there are no way around |
| 00:46.27 | h3x | youd think someone would put it in an iax phone |
| 00:46.28 | BSDTech | why did gnophone die ? |
| 00:46.30 | h3x | for chrissakes |
| 00:46.37 | brc007 | one thing I noticed in the registry is my call history from xlite is saved in the format "sip:1000@10.10.10.232" |
| 00:46.39 | MustDie | you can try to take IAX phone, and add some functionality |
| 00:46.51 | brc007 | guess it's the only way |
| 00:47.23 | MustDie | iaxphone is a scary code. |
| 00:47.24 | h3x | theres no source for 2.0 |
| 00:47.26 | brc007 | can't imagine why everybody wouldn't always put that functionality in...seems pretty simple |
| 00:47.28 | brc007 | no source? |
| 00:47.29 | brc007 | damn! |
| 00:47.41 | h3x | unless its in the same distro |
| 00:48.00 | MustDie | afaik IAXPhone is written in VB6 |
| 00:48.00 | h3x | nope just two file |
| 00:48.00 | h3x | s |
| 00:48.16 | MustDie | just scary shit |
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| 00:49.03 | brc007 | the site says it's LGPL but the source isn't there |
| 00:49.16 | brc007 | he'd probably put it up if I asked I guess |
| 00:49.43 | brc007 | sure be nice if xten added IAX |
| 00:49.44 | MustDie | brc: i've looked into previous code. scary shit. just forget it |
| 00:49.49 | brc007 | crap |
| 00:50.05 | brc007 | well I can't exactly forget it as a customer has asked for that functionality |
| 00:50.30 | brc007 | they've got MS CRM and they want a click here to dial link on each customers info |
| 00:50.44 | BSDTech | why is it the only good iaxphone client that worked on linux and windows now is only windows |
| 00:50.47 | MustDie | brc: i guess it's other solutions around |
| 00:50.53 | brc007 | such as? |
| 00:51.04 | BSDTech | it seems all linux/uinx clients are biting the dust |
| 00:51.08 | MustDie | brc: are they using softphone ? |
| 00:51.26 | brc007 | they likely will for the people who will use CRM |
| 00:51.39 | brc007 | unless they have to use hardphones |
| 00:52.07 | MustDie | you just write an app, that passes info about where to call to * |
| 00:52.15 | h3x | use asterisk manager interface |
| 00:52.18 | h3x | to speed dial |
| 00:52.25 | h3x | just make a systray app |
| 00:52.28 | MustDie | and then * calls customers and connects with meetme or something |
| 00:52.33 | h3x | so you can use it for hardphones |
| 00:52.40 | brc007 | there's 15,000 CRM entries |
| 00:52.47 | MustDie | brc: so, |
| 00:52.48 | MustDie | ? |
| 00:52.54 | brc007 | oh nm |
| 00:53.30 | MustDie | you can use it even for softphones too |
| 00:53.31 | h3x | at least iaxphone is gsm |
| 00:53.33 | MustDie | but it sucks |
| 00:54.02 | brc007 | so the app I write...I'd set it up so when I click <a href=speedial:4805551212> the app would catch that and then tell * to dial that number and ring the phone of the person logged into the app |
| 00:54.24 | MustDie | brc: yeah, just don't forget to identify your user ;) |
| 00:54.25 | h3x | brc007: no use manager |
| 00:54.32 | brc007 | I know nothing about manager |
| 00:54.36 | h3x | its very simple |
| 00:54.44 | brc007 | I assume there's no documentation anywhere? :\ |
| 00:54.46 | MustDie | like href=speeddial:12345:4805551212 |
| 00:54.46 | h3x | action: originate |
| 00:55.02 | MustDie | brc: it's very easy to do |
| 00:55.06 | h3x | show manager commands |
| 00:55.50 | h3x | just do an action originate to your pohone and then an action transfer to the phone number |
| 00:56.00 | brc007 | MustDie: is 12345 the exten of the user? |
| 00:56.04 | MustDie | yup |
| 00:56.08 | h3x | zaptransfer i guess |
| 00:56.16 | MustDie | or you can handle logic inside of your app |
| 00:56.23 | MustDie | brc: you can even use VB for this ;) |
| 00:56.28 | brc007 | heh |
| 00:56.38 | h3x | the plus side to this all is it keeps your dialplan from getting fucked up |
| 00:56.39 | brc007 | I probably'd use VB.net or C#.net |
| 00:56.44 | h3x | since normally you'd have dial 9 for outside calls |
| 00:56.48 | brc007 | mhm |
| 00:57.22 | MustDie | brc: you can use anything you like ;) you would have to deal with protocol handlers. and this is evil ;) |
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| 01:09.45 | evilbunny | does anyone know how long it usually takes to get an account out of nufone.net? |
| 01:11.45 | brc007 | depends on the phase of the moon |
| 01:12.02 | brc007 | paypal 5 bucks to sales@brianchristie.com |
| 01:12.09 | brc007 | I mean err uhm sales@nufone.com |
| 01:14.03 | evilbunny | brc007: yea i did |
| 01:14.08 | evilbunny | and got an automated reply |
| 01:14.28 | evilbunny | but no account details etc :) |
| 01:14.42 | brc007 | oh have you sent them what you want to use for your username and secret yet? |
| 01:15.02 | evilbunny | reply to the automated mail with details? |
| 01:15.43 | brc007 | for me anywya they sent an email and asked me to send them what I wanted to use for my username and password |
| 01:16.08 | evilbunny | they didn't mention any of this in previous emails, just to send a payment to paypal |
| 01:17.19 | brc007 | ack |
| 01:17.28 | brc007 | for anyone listening don't paypal nufone.com |
| 01:17.45 | evilbunny | lol |
| 01:17.45 | slePP | ? |
| 01:17.53 | slePP | wrong place? :> |
| 01:18.11 | brc007 | it's .net |
| 01:18.14 | evilbunny | yea |
| 01:18.31 | brc007 | though personally I would register .com too... |
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| 01:19.51 | JerJer | evilbunny: what is your ticket number? |
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| 01:20.34 | slePP | paypal should verify your target e-mail domain :> |
| 01:21.30 | Carp | Can someone give me some advice? I am trying to write a basic AGI script in PHP. A simple calling card application. I cant think of how to cut the call off if their credits expire during a call. |
| 01:21.33 | evilbunny | 802 |
| 01:21.58 | evilbunny | Carp: did you see the perl agi script for that? |
| 01:22.05 | Carp | Yes I did. |
| 01:22.07 | evilbunny | you can set a time limit on the call |
| 01:22.17 | evilbunny | so you just set the limit to their maxium credits |
| 01:22.30 | Carp | Oh, I never thought of that. Thanks aloy. |
| 01:22.31 | Carp | alot* |
| 01:22.35 | evilbunny | or you can run a cron job to check on callers |
| 01:22.43 | evilbunny | and kill their connection if they exceed their limit |
| 01:22.50 | evilbunny | if they are calling internationally |
| 01:22.52 | evilbunny | etc etc etc |
| 01:22.57 | Carp | Right, I'd rather do it within the script though. |
| 01:22.59 | slePP | a cronjob would be silly |
| 01:23.10 | slePP | :> |
| 01:23.22 | evilbunny | slePP: how would you handle different call rates in agi then? |
| 01:23.40 | evilbunny | although you could calc it on a per call basis based on the number they dialed |
| 01:23.43 | slePP | back it from a DB, and have the agi set the absolute call limit based on their dialed target |
| 01:23.43 | evilbunny | that would work as well |
| 01:23.50 | evilbunny | yea |
| 01:23.54 | evilbunny | just thought of that :) |
| 01:24.03 | slePP | and when they hangup, drop their time left int he DB.. |
| 01:24.03 | slePP | NOW |
| 01:24.07 | slePP | this brings up an interesting problem |
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| 01:24.08 | slePP | :> |
| 01:24.14 | slePP | if you give me a calling card with 1000 minutes |
| 01:24.22 | slePP | and i dial in, and place a call. i get my 1000 minute absolute limit |
| 01:24.27 | JerJer | that's gonna blow up in your face |
| 01:24.27 | evilbunny | nah you'd have a calling card with $10 for example |
| 01:24.31 | slePP | now, i dial in again, with the same card number. i get another 1000 minutes |
| 01:24.38 | evilbunny | then work out time based on amount left |
| 01:24.48 | slePP | so long as i don't end my first call, i keep getting unlimited call volumes :> |
| 01:25.16 | slePP | you have to adapt the timing during the call, or limit it to one call/card |
| 01:25.21 | Carp | So, how do I set a time linit on a call in PHP AGI? |
| 01:25.24 | slePP | and bill them $5 for trying to use it twice ;> |
| 01:25.37 | slePP | carp: exec absolutetimeout 100, perhaps? |
| 01:25.46 | JerJer | Carp: first off you don't use AGI. secondly you calcuate the maxium duration they can call based on the rate and set an absolute timeout |
| 01:25.51 | Carp | Is that based on minutes or seconds/ |
| 01:26.23 | slePP | carp: set it to 5 and find out. if you can call somewhere and not get cutoff in 5 seoncds, it's minutes. :> but i think it's seconds. |
| 01:26.30 | slePP | show application absolutetimeout |
| 01:26.35 | slePP | jerjer: why would an AGI be a bad approach? |
| 01:27.06 | JerJer | not flexable enough |
| 01:27.10 | Carp | Ok |
| 01:27.12 | slePP | fair enough. |
| 01:27.12 | Carp | Its in seconds |
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| 01:27.30 | Carp | JerJer: If I didn't do it in AGI, how would I do it? |
| 01:27.32 | meuslix | how can i tell if i have tip/ring wired up correctly? |
| 01:27.35 | JerJer | i've got app_twostage that i've been debating about open-sourcing to shut ppl up |
| 01:27.50 | JerJer | the C Api |
| 01:28.01 | Carp | If I only knew C/. |
| 01:28.02 | slePP | open source it under license, or just do the g729 codec way :> |
| 01:28.19 | Carp | I wish I knew C. tried to learn but couldnt get it to stick |
| 01:28.23 | JerJer | if i open it, its gonna be GPL and disclaimed so it can be distroed with asterisk |
| 01:28.24 | evilbunny | stick it under a non-commercial license :) |
| 01:28.29 | slePP | C is likely easier than PHP in a lot of respects. ;> |
| 01:28.34 | slePP | except it's strongly typed, PHP is not. |
| 01:28.57 | Carp | Well, PHP isnt too hard for me. C has stumped me ALOT of times. |
| 01:28.59 | slePP | jerjer: it looked like 'destroyed with asterisk' the first time i read that. what's your twostage module do? |
| 01:29.17 | JerJer | its a two stage dialer |
| 01:29.27 | evilbunny | JerJer: replied to your email with a user/pass |
| 01:31.01 | evilbunny | the problem isn't a cool factor, it's a useable factor |
| 01:31.50 | slePP | iaxcomm isn't usable enough either |
| 01:32.00 | slePP | it lacks other codecs (gsm is just icky), it has some major UI issues |
| 01:32.16 | evilbunny | gsm is fine for asterisk to asterisk |
| 01:33.42 | JerJer | slePP: so instead of just dialing, app_twostage checks ANI for authentication and/or asks for a pin/password |
| 01:34.04 | JerJer | then informs you how much loot you have left, then prompts for the number to dial |
| 01:34.10 | JerJer | then informs you how long u can rap |
| 01:34.13 | JerJer | then makes the call |
| 01:34.29 | slePP | how do you deal with multiple calls? |
| 01:34.36 | JerJer | so it can be used as a calling card or callback app |
| 01:34.39 | slePP | block any but a single call per PIN? |
| 01:34.49 | JerJer | configurable |
| 01:35.17 | BSDTech | unix is loosing all its iax/sip softphones |
| 01:35.46 | brc007 | "slePP thinks it's time to write another IAX2 client... iaxComm is cool'n'all, but... not cool enough" cool :p |