| 00:00.11 | Tekati | Has anyone tried the fwd free phone calls anywhere in the us and canada until the end of the year? |
| 00:00.31 | Tekati | I get a message saying you have to be a FWD user and I am but it does not work. |
| 00:00.41 | Tekati | Do you have to send your username and password along when you make a call? |
| 00:00.53 | jsmith | night y'all... |
| 00:00.58 | Tekati | Dial(Sip/${MACRO_EXTEN}@fwd) |
| 00:01.07 | Tekati | is what I have using a Macro of course. |
| 00:01.11 | km- | tekati: I get that same message |
| 00:02.03 | Tekati | How would they know who you are with my dial string above? You would think you would have to authenticate with your user and pass like you do with IAXtel. |
| 00:02.46 | *** join/#asterisk _Eagle_ (nick@209.103.132.60) |
| 00:03.31 | km- | well |
| 00:03.36 | kapejod | because you have it in sip.conf |
| 00:03.41 | km- | oddly enough my fwd registrations are timing out |
| 00:03.44 | km- | so maybe thats why |
| 00:04.30 | _Eagle_ | ? |
| 00:04.30 | km- | kape: the sip.conf entry has to be a peer, right |
| 00:04.34 | km- | _eagle: I suppose we could |
| 00:04.41 | Tekati | I have iaxtel in my iax.conf file but I still have to use my user and pass to dial through iaxtel. |
| 00:04.42 | kapejod | km-: yup |
| 00:04.56 | _Eagle_ | maybe in a few hours? |
| 00:05.02 | kapejod | Tekati: with iax you only need the user part in the dialstring |
| 00:05.06 | km- | _eagle_:possibly |
| 00:05.26 | Tekati | I did not know that. I will give that a try too. |
| 00:06.04 | Stealth_Man | km: what are the settings for conference call ? |
| 00:06.58 | _Eagle_ | i wont be able to join the conference much til after 11 eastern or so... got too many things to do i think |
| 00:07.04 | km- | stealth_man: IAX2/asterisk@switch-1.nufone.net/4569 |
| 00:07.09 | Stealth_Man | thanks |
| 00:07.09 | _Eagle_ | but ill pop in around 11 or so and see if it's going |
| 00:07.13 | Stealth_Man | sure |
| 00:07.16 | Tekati | kapejod: That does not work for me. I have to have both my user and pass for that to work. |
| 00:07.16 | Stealth_Man | no prob |
| 00:07.21 | Tekati | for IAXTEL that is. |
| 00:07.54 | Tekati | kapejod: WARNING[1158921008]: File chan_iax2.c, Line 4404 (socket_read): Call rejected by 69.73.19.178: No authority found |
| 00:07.57 | kapejod | Tekati: do you have username= and secret= in your iaxtel peer? |
| 00:08.26 | Tekati | No secret. Let me try that. |
| 00:08.38 | sxpert | Tekati: don't copy/paste the line :D |
| 00:09.15 | Tekati | sxpert: What line is that? |
| 00:09.29 | sxpert | Tekati: the one with the secret :D |
| 00:09.41 | _Eagle_ | well, gotta go scrounge up some dinner or something... |
| 00:09.45 | Tekati | Hehe. Yea that would be bad. |
| 00:09.48 | _Eagle_ | back in a while... seeya folks |
| 00:11.37 | Tekati | kapejod: okay I put in my user and pass in the iax.conf iaxtel context and still no joy. |
| 00:12.20 | kapejod | sure it's a type=peer or friend? |
| 00:14.22 | Tekati | kapejod: You had that one correct it was type=user Is type=peer the correct way? |
| 00:14.55 | Tekati | peer is outbound only isn't it? |
| 00:14.58 | kapejod | type=peer will work for outgoing calls |
| 00:15.11 | kapejod | you will need a type=user without user/secret to get incoming iaxtel calls probably |
| 00:15.13 | Tekati | Ah so friend is what I want cool will try that. |
| 00:16.58 | JerJer | Tekati: no its not |
| 00:17.08 | JerJer | type=friend will bite you |
| 00:17.14 | km- | haha I knew that statement would rouse jeremy |
| 00:17.20 | kapejod | see above. |
| 00:17.32 | JerJer | there is no case where a friend should be used |
| 00:18.13 | Tekati | Correct the only way I can make it work is with type=user and then using my username and password in the dial string. |
| 00:18.24 | JerJer | um no |
| 00:18.25 | Tekati | Then I can place and recieve calls on IAXtel |
| 00:18.33 | kapejod | nope |
| 00:18.33 | km- | blurgh |
| 00:18.42 | Tekati | Then tell me what I am doing wrong? |
| 00:18.55 | kapejod | make sure your iaxtel type=user is the last entry in iax.conf |
| 00:19.01 | Tekati | It is |
| 00:19.09 | km- | jerjer: my HT is picking up all sorts of spurious RFI in my office... |
| 00:19.19 | kapejod | create an iaxtelout peer |
| 00:19.24 | km- | thankfully the RACES repeater doesn't have it |
| 00:19.28 | bond | is there any package of asterisk for suse ? |
| 00:19.32 | kapejod | with username= and secret= |
| 00:19.37 | JerJer | demod |
| 00:19.41 | Tekati | [iaxtel] |
| 00:19.41 | Tekati | type = user |
| 00:19.41 | Tekati | host = iaxtel.com |
| 00:19.41 | Tekati | context = incoming-iaxtel |
| 00:19.41 | Tekati | disallow = all |
| 00:19.43 | Tekati | allow = gsm |
| 00:19.44 | Tekati | deny = 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 |
| 00:19.46 | Tekati | permit = 69.73.19.178/255.255.255.255 |
| 00:19.55 | JerJer | wholy whitespace batman |
| 00:19.57 | Tekati | Don't yell at the spaces they work here just fine. |
| 00:20.07 | Tekati | Hehe I knew that was coming. |
| 00:20.28 | kapejod | your spaces are wasting out bandwidth ;) |
| 00:21.24 | kapejod | our even |
| 00:21.45 | Tekati | Now I am sure I will get yelled at for posting this too so I am ready. |
| 00:21.52 | Tekati | [macro-iaxtel] |
| 00:21.52 | Tekati | exten => s,1,Macro(record-on,${MACRO_EXTEN},${CALLERIDNUM}) |
| 00:21.53 | Tekati | exten => s,2,SetCallerID(${IAXTELUSERID}) |
| 00:21.53 | Tekati | exten => s,3,SetCIDName(${IAXTELUSERNAME}) |
| 00:21.53 | Tekati | exten => s,4,AGI(MisterHouse.agi,"DTMF") |
| 00:21.53 | Tekati | exten => s,5,Dial(IAX2/${IAXTELUSERNAME}:${IAXTELPASSWORD}@iaxtel.com/${MACRO_EXTEN}@iaxtel) |
| 00:21.56 | Tekati | ;exten => s,5,Dial(IAX2/${IAXTELUSERNAME}@iaxtel.com/${MACRO_EXTEN}@iaxtel) |
| 00:21.58 | Tekati | exten => s,6,Playback(invalid) |
| 00:22.00 | Tekati | exten => s,7,Hangup |
| 00:22.17 | JerJer | KISS |
| 00:22.21 | Tekati | That is the only way I can make a outbound call. |
| 00:22.24 | kapejod | people are stupid ;) |
| 00:22.24 | kapejod | NEXT! |
| 00:22.25 | JerJer | Keep It Simple, Stupid |
| 00:22.29 | km- | MisterHouse? :) |
| 00:22.46 | kapejod | ok, leave it like that |
| 00:22.51 | kapejod | it works for you |
| 00:23.12 | Tekati | But I am learning here just like everyone else did once about a time tell me what I am doing wrong? |
| 00:23.28 | kapejod | i already did |
| 00:24.15 | Tekati | km->: I send all DTMF data to my home automation server to keep track of who was called. |
| 00:24.20 | sxpert | JerJer: losange shaped pill ? |
| 00:24.30 | km- | ah |
| 00:24.35 | extremis | is there an AGI script clearinghouse for those of us that wantt o benefit from other's efforts? |
| 00:24.38 | kapejod | pfizer? |
| 00:24.41 | sxpert | lol |
| 00:24.45 | km- | hehe |
| 00:24.47 | km- | sildenafil nitrate! |
| 00:24.55 | blll | citrate |
| 00:25.05 | JerJer | Acetaminophen Diphenhydramine HCI |
| 00:25.23 | sxpert | heh :) |
| 00:25.51 | Tekati | So anyone actually able to use that fwd service to call anywhere in the us or canada for free? Or does everyone get that same you have to be a FWD user to use this service message? |
| 00:26.35 | suma | Tekati: same |
| 00:26.44 | kapejod | sip is evil |
| 00:26.48 | suma | Tekati: when they provided the call anywhere ?? |
| 00:27.07 | Tekati | Interesting. Maybe I will setup X-Lite to use the FWD service and see if it is a * thing or a FWD issue. |
| 00:27.12 | suma | Tekati: they had only *1800 like that right |
| 00:27.24 | Tekati | No all numbers through the holidays. |
| 00:27.32 | suma | oh really |
| 00:27.37 | Tekati | U.S. and Canada. |
| 00:27.38 | Tekati | Yep. |
| 00:27.40 | suma | that's cool |
| 00:27.48 | suma | but fwd maling list is down |
| 00:28.20 | suma | i thought fwd is closed and i opened an account with iptel.org |
| 00:28.30 | suma | why SIP is evil kapejod ? |
| 00:28.47 | kapejod | because it is ;) |
| 00:28.58 | JerJer | lol um no |
| 00:29.04 | sxpert | kapejod: H323 is worse even |
| 00:29.26 | kapejod | sxpert: h323 is hell.... |
| 00:29.29 | kapejod | but sip is just evel |
| 00:29.33 | kapejod | evil |
| 00:29.39 | suma | ha ha |
| 00:29.45 | suma | IAX2 ?? |
| 00:29.45 | sxpert | heh, so sip is better than h323 ;D |
| 00:29.52 | suma | heaven ? |
| 00:29.54 | kapejod | no |
| 00:29.56 | kapejod | it's less worse |
| 00:29.57 | sxpert | partially evil ? |
| 00:29.59 | sxpert | lol |
| 00:30.20 | suma | none of the system is plug and play |
| 00:30.35 | sxpert | IP was never designed to carry voice... all hail ATM :DDD |
| 00:30.40 | suma | all we need to configure, do all s**t things |
| 00:31.16 | sxpert | lol |
| 00:31.16 | kapejod | pff...iax2 is really nice and easy |
| 00:32.29 | suma | kapejod: you know http://www.freephoneproject.com/nexthop/ |
| 00:32.51 | suma | yes as far i have it is iax2 is really plug and play |
| 00:33.22 | km- | dudes |
| 00:33.23 | km- | nexthop |
| 00:33.24 | km- | ? |
| 00:33.25 | km- | ENUM. |
| 00:33.28 | suma | no |
| 00:33.30 | kapejod | nice page :) |
| 00:33.40 | suma | free routing to all over the world |
| 00:33.45 | suma | i dunno whether it is legal or not |
| 00:33.45 | km- | yeah. |
| 00:33.47 | km- | sue enum. |
| 00:33.51 | km- | s/sue/use |
| 00:34.06 | JerJer | no sue was the wright word |
| 00:34.13 | kapejod | hehe |
| 00:34.17 | suma | ha ha |
| 00:34.22 | bkw_ | w00t |
| 00:34.52 | suma | kapejod is bring long time in channel, too much boosed today ;) |
| 00:35.04 | km- | bkw: we really need to put together a cool document that explains why ENUM is the answer to all of these homebrew "FREE PHONE FOR ALL!" services |
| 00:35.11 | km- | I mean |
| 00:35.20 | km- | all this crap people are doing with coordination and massive extension plans |
| 00:35.22 | km- | duh, ENUM! |
| 00:35.29 | suma | i want to really use enum km- |
| 00:35.38 | suma | i think asterisk too support that too ? |
| 00:35.41 | JerJer | then use it |
| 00:35.54 | suma | i really dunno how to use it, that is the problem |
| 00:35.57 | JerJer | we use enum like its going out of style |
| 00:35.57 | km- | suma: enum.fierymoon.com has instructions on how to use enumlookup as well as how to add your calling area to the fierymoon enum |
| 00:36.15 | km- | and I'm adding a new function to it that will allow international numbers |
| 00:36.21 | JerJer | km-: until u get sued for hijacking someones phone number :) |
| 00:36.42 | JerJer | or faciliting the hijcaking |
| 00:36.44 | kapejod | fyi: http://www.cryptophone.de/html/faq_en.html |
| 00:36.58 | km- | jerjer: why would I get sued for that? It's my enum database, I'm allowed to do whatever the hell I want with it... If other people want to add crap in my database, that's my problem with them |
| 00:36.59 | suma | km-: http://enum.fierymoon.com/ not working |
| 00:37.05 | km- | jerjer: its not like the phone company is going to jack into my enum |
| 00:37.25 | km- | "WFM" |
| 00:37.34 | km- | jerjer: can you check and see if http://enum.fierymoon.com is working for ya |
| 00:37.54 | wsuff[afk] | km-: i'm there now |
| 00:37.57 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.57 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.57 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.00 | suma | hey what happened to my link ?? |
| 00:38.02 | sxpert | suma: works here |
| 00:38.07 | suma | yes |
| 00:38.51 | suma | cool |
| 00:38.57 | suma | is it like dns server |
| 00:39.04 | kapejod | hehe: |
| 00:39.05 | kapejod | 3. Countries declared as currently "evil" by the German government |
| 00:39.05 | kapejod | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.08 | suma | will it propogate the phone numbers to all remaining servers >> |
| 00:39.56 | suma | support ? |
| 00:40.08 | kapejod | cryptophone |
| 00:40.11 | suma | cool |
| 00:40.24 | rpb | JerJer: do you guys have your own enum database? |
| 00:40.45 | JerJer | yes, but its not publically queriable |
| 00:41.10 | suma | JerJer: why it is not publically avialable ? |
| 00:41.19 | suma | is should be like dns server right ? |
| 00:41.23 | wsuff[afk] | suma: for customer use only i would guess |
| 00:41.36 | wsuff[afk] | plus it would conflict if people used the same enum #'s |
| 00:41.48 | JerJer | no we use it for our own trunking |
| 00:41.55 | suma | oh ok |
| 00:42.07 | sxpert | kapejod: how hard is it to implement their crypto-pipeline in software, not too hard I guess... |
| 00:42.16 | suma | jerjer do you have a website where i can add my number ? |
| 00:42.31 | suma | so your customers can call me and get you some penny ;) |
| 00:42.31 | JerJer | suma: its not something anyone can add anything to |
| 00:42.41 | JerJer | its our backend routing system, that's all |
| 00:42.45 | kapejod | sxpert: i heard that jolly (the pbx4linux guy) has already done it and is coming to CCC too |
| 00:42.46 | suma | oh ok |
| 00:42.48 | km- | guys, I'm rewriting the front end for adding your numbers to enum |
| 00:42.51 | km- | so dont add em yet |
| 00:42.51 | km- | :P |
| 00:42.52 | JerJer | i've been researching trip |
| 00:42.56 | Tekati | The FWD issue is a issue with our * config. I could make a call with X-Lite but not with * |
| 00:42.58 | rpb | Where are there instructions for setting up an enum database? We have a bunch of distributed DID's. Looks like enum might help manage it. |
| 00:43.01 | sxpert | kapejod: ah ? |
| 00:43.11 | km- | rpb: not many instructions on how to do it |
| 00:43.15 | km- | rpb: I had to figure it out as I went along |
| 00:43.19 | sxpert | kapejod: getting ready for the blinkenlights revival ? |
| 00:43.22 | suma | Tekati: what is your problem ? |
| 00:43.30 | kapejod | hehe |
| 00:43.40 | rpb | km-: fierymoon is your site? |
| 00:43.40 | ErikN | I just got my 4 span t1/e1 - in /etc/zapata.conf I have: span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs (same for span1-4) then I have bchan=1-23 dchan=24 etc to 96 ... when I try to set any signalling in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf asterisk tells me the signalling is unknown and bails |
| 00:43.43 | suma | Tekati: i register with fwd and make and receive calls |
| 00:43.55 | suma | Tekati: through * |
| 00:43.59 | Tekati | I am registered with them. |
| 00:44.21 | Tekati | I can call other FWD users but not the new *1235551212 long distance numbers. |
| 00:44.45 | dimmik_1 | n8 every1 |
| 00:45.01 | Tekati | You don't have to be autheticated apparently to dial other FWD users but you do to take use the long distance deal they have right now. |
| 00:45.02 | suma | Tekati: have you tried to dial 14551 & 121632 ? |
| 00:45.22 | suma | long distance deal ?? |
| 00:45.41 | *** join/#asterisk vvenka1 (~venkat@pcp03137387pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 00:45.45 | Tekati | When you use your Free World Dialup account, today through the end of the year, you can now place calls into the USA and Canada, for free, by dialing *1 and the areacode and number. |
| 00:46.05 | Tekati | That is what I got from the news email today. |
| 00:46.16 | Tekati | When I try it, it tells me I have to be a FWD user which I am. |
| 00:46.26 | Tekati | I can do it like it says with X-Lite but not * |
| 00:47.01 | suma | oh |
| 00:47.04 | *** join/#asterisk anthm (~anthmct@CPE-24-167-193-161.wi.rr.com) |
| 00:47.09 | JerJer | nuke those damn alloca's also |
| 00:47.31 | vvenka1 | Can Asterisk act act as a SIP proxy server? |
| 00:47.46 | suma | vvenka1: yes it is |
| 00:48.04 | suma | vvenka1: not just acting, but actually it can be a proxy server |
| 00:48.44 | vvenka1 | I need to set up Asterisk as a SIP proxy, what shoudl i do? all the docs talk more about the PBX functionality |
| 00:49.08 | JerJer | be smarter than what your working on |
| 00:49.13 | *** join/#asterisk killerbee (~Killer@ool-44c1013f.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:49.32 | suma | if you ask more questions in this channel, you will be killed, first study the documentation , if you face problem come here people will help you |
| 00:49.54 | killerbee | suma why does it hurt when I peee! |
| 00:50.00 | km- | blah blah blah |
| 00:50.13 | suma | killerbee: today is friday, you forgot that |
| 00:50.27 | killerbee | oh... Mmmmmm Beeer! |
| 00:50.27 | tclark | JerJer: want over view of where we going acd wise http://www.callenish.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tctel/asterisk/apps/icd/ |
| 00:50.54 | ErikN | any reason why chan_zap wouldnt like my signalling type? |
| 00:51.16 | tclark | mis matched to zaptel |
| 00:51.29 | *** part/#asterisk vvenka1 (~venkat@pcp03137387pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 00:51.44 | ErikN | I'm using the same config from my previous setup using two pri cards - now I'm trying to do it with the 4 span |
| 00:51.55 | JerJer | Intelligent Call Distribution System |
| 00:51.56 | JerJer | rock on |
| 00:52.36 | km- | okie dokie |
| 00:52.39 | km- | enum looks like it's working now |
| 00:53.33 | killerbee | lol |
| 00:54.16 | km- | if any of you are interested in participating in my enum that's fine |
| 00:54.31 | km- | I currently offer free calling to most exchanges in the 610/215/484/267 area codes |
| 00:54.51 | dant | km-, you're philly? |
| 00:54.52 | wsuff[afk] | km-: where is that geographicly? |
| 00:54.55 | JerJer | tclark: looks a whole lot more complicated than chan_noq and agent_deadlock |
| 00:55.01 | km- | wsuff: philadelphia |
| 00:55.09 | km- | dant: yep, norristown to be exact |
| 00:55.13 | wsuff[afk] | km-: didn't know u were that close |
| 00:55.15 | *** join/#asterisk Hasch (~Hasch@ACA2590F.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:55.21 | dant | km-, that's north yep? |
| 00:55.25 | km- | dant: yeah, northwest of philly |
| 00:55.46 | dant | km-, cool, spent a month in horsham earlier in the year |
| 00:55.54 | dant | km-, not far away |
| 00:56.02 | km- | yeah, I work near horsham |
| 00:56.53 | km- | wsuff: ahh, whereabouts? |
| 00:57.33 | wsuff[afk] | killerbee: possible |
| 00:57.33 | wsuff[afk] | heh e |
| 00:57.49 | wsuff[afk] | except i can only get comcrap |
| 00:57.54 | wsuff[afk] | so either north or south |
| 00:58.01 | tclark | JerJer: yes, but realy it will be much cleaner, & in fact it will not mix roles like the current stuff, it has very strict interfaces that enforce thread safe behavior |
| 00:58.03 | bkw_ | hrm |
| 00:58.47 | km- | bkw: you know a really easy way to throw SQL statements at the unixodbc driver? |
| 00:58.50 | tclark | and has extanedable acton where we have seen the need, so it is designed to be dev's like an app |
| 00:59.42 | Hasch | anyone here confortable with Meridian programming and config? |
| 00:59.56 | km- | eh I'll just use the psql thingie |
| 01:00.49 | killerbee | bkw_ did ya get me a wisip yet? |
| 01:01.17 | suma | km_ you know what, i just learned postgressql due to asterisk |
| 01:01.29 | suma | becoz it took a pain for me to configure mysql |
| 01:01.46 | suma | for asterisk |
| 01:01.57 | km- | yeah, mysql is slow! |
| 01:01.57 | suma | why is that so complex in asterisk ? |
| 01:02.12 | suma | really km- ? |
| 01:02.22 | km- | mysql is slower than postgres, that's for sure |
| 01:02.42 | suma | i c, but i liked postgres due to asterisk |
| 01:02.46 | ErikN | ok - so I do a make on zapata then a make on zapatel - then make on asterisk - then insmod wct4xxp then asterisk -vvvc ? |
| 01:03.48 | suma | ErikN: I want to really help you but I'm not much experienced with zapata, did you follow any documentation |
| 01:04.28 | ErikN | suma: I have - and I'm very lost - I've setup 5 asterisk boxes using single span t1 cards... but never a quad span - and I'm getting some errors that I've never seen before |
| 01:04.43 | bond | is it possible to build asterisk to a my own prefix ? |
| 01:05.31 | suma | ErikN: let the gurus come after a peg, definitely they will help you |
| 01:05.49 | suma | bond: asterisk is yours play with it |
| 01:06.26 | tclark | ErikN: show me you zaptel.conf & relvent signaling in zapata.conf |
| 01:07.28 | killerbee | bkw_ lets go half on some pri |
| 01:07.44 | suma | I received an email from fwd now |
| 01:08.06 | suma | When you use your Free World Dialup account, today through the end of the year, you can now place calls into the USA and Canada, for free, by dialing *1 and the areacode and number. |
| 01:08.10 | ErikN | tclark: ok... before I do that - I use the tor2 module or the wct4xxp mod with the te410p ? |
| 01:08.22 | Tekati | Still trying to make it work. Can't get it with * but can with X-Lite |
| 01:08.25 | tclark | wct4xxp |
| 01:08.34 | ErikN | tclark: ok... just a sec... |
| 01:08.37 | Tekati | It is like * is not authenticating with FWD for the call. |
| 01:08.56 | suma | i c |
| 01:09.07 | suma | their fwd mailing list is also down |
| 01:09.10 | ErikN | tclack: this is /etc/zapata.conf |
| 01:09.11 | ErikN | span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs |
| 01:09.11 | ErikN | span=2,1,0,esf,b8zs |
| 01:09.11 | ErikN | #span=3,1,0,esf,b8zs |
| 01:09.11 | ErikN | #span=4,1,0,esf,b8zs |
| 01:09.11 | ErikN | bchan=1-23 |
| 01:09.12 | ErikN | dchan=24 |
| 01:09.14 | ErikN | bchan=25-47 |
| 01:09.16 | ErikN | dchan=48 |
| 01:09.19 | ErikN | #bchan=49-71 |
| 01:09.20 | ErikN | #dchan=72 |
| 01:09.23 | ErikN | #bchan=73-95 |
| 01:09.24 | ErikN | #dchan=96 |
| 01:09.54 | tclark | looks like te410 interfacing 4 PRI ? |
| 01:10.05 | ErikN | yeah |
| 01:10.13 | ErikN | only of my PRIs are active |
| 01:10.21 | ErikN | here is /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 01:10.29 | ErikN | ; group 1 - pri |
| 01:10.29 | ErikN | group => 1 |
| 01:10.29 | ErikN | signalling=pri_cpe |
| 01:10.29 | ErikN | switchtype=national |
| 01:10.29 | ErikN | pridialplan=unknown |
| 01:10.30 | ErikN | pri_dialplan=unknown |
| 01:10.32 | ErikN | ;signalling=pri_net |
| 01:10.39 | ErikN | channel => 25-47 |
| 01:10.39 | ErikN | ; group 2 |
| 01:10.39 | ErikN | group => 2 |
| 01:10.40 | ErikN | switchtype=5ess |
| 01:10.42 | ErikN | signalling=pri_net |
| 01:10.44 | ErikN | pridialplan=local |
| 01:10.46 | ErikN | ;pri_dialplan=local |
| 01:10.49 | ErikN | context => default |
| 01:10.50 | ErikN | channel => 1-23 |
| 01:10.56 | dant | yay, spam the chan |
| 01:11.07 | tclark | so you have straight cables out from span 1,2 top 2 port on te410 |
| 01:11.08 | ErikN | dant: sorry - no more span from me |
| 01:11.16 | tclark | we can take this private |
| 01:11.18 | kapejod | NEXT! |
| 01:11.20 | ErikN | tclark: ok |
| 01:11.29 | ErikN | sorry all |
| 01:16.03 | killerbee | Mmmmmmm Halley Berry!!!!! |
| 01:16.25 | killerbee | In HDTV |
| 01:16.29 | killerbee | Mmmmmmm Halley Berry!!!!! |
| 01:17.31 | atacomm | so anymore discussion as to when someone might start kicking around the SUBSCRIBE/PUBLISH/NOTIFY component of SIP in Asterisk? |
| 01:18.18 | killerbee | good question atacomm...inquireing minds want to know.... |
| 01:18.36 | bkw_ | tclark you alive? |
| 01:19.11 | killerbee | bkw_ thanks for 24tcu.. changed my phone @ work |
| 01:19.16 | bkw_ | killerbee hehe np |
| 01:19.19 | bkw_ | you like eh? |
| 01:19.25 | killerbee | guys next to me almost fell off his chair |
| 01:19.26 | tclark | just working with Erik then gotta get a ferry |
| 01:20.01 | killerbee | wants it for his cell phone... |
| 01:20.14 | killerbee | I told him he has to come here and pay U |
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| 01:21.06 | killerbee | bkw_ I believe there is already a driver for *nix and mssql |
| 01:21.30 | killerbee | err I mean odbx |
| 01:21.45 | killerbee | crap man.. few mo beers and I wont be ab le to type anything |
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| 01:22.04 | killerbee | cybyc where do U live in ottawa |
| 01:22.32 | cybyc | east end |
| 01:22.38 | bkw_ | tclark I figured out this prepare stuff |
| 01:22.40 | bkw_ | i'm about to test it |
| 01:22.47 | killerbee | I grew up in the glebe |
| 01:22.51 | bkw_ | we will no longer have to parse the query each time |
| 01:22.52 | bkw_ | w00t |
| 01:22.58 | bkw_ | just plug in the dots.. and exec it |
| 01:28.12 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.12 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.12 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.16 | km- | hmm |
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| 01:28.24 | tclark | killerbee: as bank street area ? |
| 01:28.42 | km- | bkw: it's saying that the value isn't found in the database, but it is in the database |
| 01:28.53 | killerbee | tclark yes |
| 01:28.56 | km- | twice, even.. |
| 01:28.56 | km- | hmm |
| 01:28.59 | km- | maybe the twice is the problem |
| 01:29.04 | killerbee | tclark 5th avenue |
| 01:29.48 | killerbee | tclark .. no no not any mo'.... |
| 01:30.10 | killerbee | I kinda miss that.. now I'm in NJ |
| 01:33.37 | km- | killerbee: where in NJ? |
| 01:33.46 | km- | bkw: dude, app_dbodbc is misbehaving |
| 01:34.06 | killerbee | montclair area |
| 01:34.09 | km- | ah, up north |
| 01:34.20 | killerbee | where are U... down low? |
| 01:34.32 | km- | philly suburbs |
| 01:34.41 | killerbee | ahh |
| 01:34.46 | killerbee | oh yeah.. 610..215 |
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| 01:35.20 | extremis | so, hwo do I tell modprobe to use a specific irq when loading a module? |
| 01:42.22 | Myren | are fxs modules usually any better than your average telephone line? |
| 01:42.30 | Myren | i wouldnt mind a small quality increase... |
| 01:43.15 | bkw_ | km- what is it doing? |
| 01:43.20 | bkw_ | its case sensitive |
| 01:43.29 | km- | they're numerics |
| 01:43.29 | bkw_ | km- show me the data |
| 01:43.39 | bkw_ | and the extensions.conf entry |
| 01:43.39 | km- | astcdr=> SELECT DISTINCT value FROM ASTDB WHERE "family"='610' AND "key"='635'; |
| 01:43.58 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.58 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.58 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.58 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.02 | km- | my select call in pgsql works fine |
| 01:44.13 | km- | but doesnt work in app_dbodbc |
| 01:44.24 | bkw_ | lets see |
| 01:44.52 | bkw_ | that query isn't right |
| 01:44.58 | bkw_ | thats when you did the query in pgsql right |
| 01:45.03 | km- | right |
| 01:45.09 | km- | I had to modify the query to work in pgsql |
| 01:45.16 | bkw_ | SELECT DISTINCT value FROM ASTDB WHERE `family`='610' AND `key`='635'; |
| 01:45.16 | km- | since your query didnt work |
| 01:45.16 | km- | in pgsql |
| 01:45.22 | bkw_ | tell me if that works |
| 01:45.34 | bkw_ | because I did backticks in the app |
| 01:45.34 | km- | astcdr=> SELECT DISTINCT value FROM ASTDB WHERE `family`='610' AND `key`='635'; |
| 01:45.34 | km- | ERROR: Unable to identify a prefix operator '`' for type 'character varying' |
| 01:45.34 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.35 | bkw_ | ah ok |
| 01:45.42 | bkw_ | thats why |
| 01:45.42 | bkw_ | ok let me test something |
| 01:45.52 | km- | maybe escape some "'s |
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| 01:46.15 | bkw_ | no |
| 01:46.17 | bkw_ | those are ` |
| 01:46.23 | bkw_ | not ' |
| 01:46.23 | km- | I know |
| 01:46.27 | bkw_ | try this |
| 01:46.33 | km- | I'm saying instead of the backticks |
| 01:46.33 | km- | use "'s |
| 01:46.35 | bkw_ | SELECT DISTINCT value FROM ASTDB WHERE family='610' AND key='635'; |
| 01:46.46 | km- | that worked |
| 01:46.57 | bkw_ | ok we are going to remove those and try something |
| 01:47.14 | km- | changing it now |
| 01:48.16 | bkw_ | it doesn't work when you do that |
| 01:48.21 | bkw_ | maybe the select will |
| 01:49.05 | km- | got it |
| 01:49.19 | km- | I removed the backticks and my query works |
| 01:49.58 | bkw_ | sounds like we have a bug in the odbc driver |
| 01:50.03 | bkw_ | because it won't work here correctly |
| 01:50.14 | bkw_ | their has to be a way to make this work |
| 01:50.19 | km- | why not use "'s? |
| 01:50.29 | km- | does that not work on your side? |
| 01:50.32 | bkw_ | exten => 345,1,ODBCput(BLAH/blah=bkw) |
| 01:50.32 | bkw_ | exten => 345,2,ODBCput(BLAH/blah=bk2) |
| 01:50.32 | bkw_ | exten => 345,3,ODBCget(testingget=BLAH/blah) |
| 01:50.32 | bkw_ | exten => 345,4,ODBCdel(BLAH/blah) |
| 01:50.32 | bkw_ | exten => 345,5,ODBCput(BLAH/blah=bkw) |
| 01:50.32 | bkw_ | exten => 345,6,ODBCput(BLAH/blah=bk2) |
| 01:50.33 | bkw_ | exten => 345,7,ODBCdeltree(BLAH) |
| 01:50.36 | bkw_ | try that |
| 01:50.36 | killerbee | bkw... \' |
| 01:50.39 | bkw_ | set verbose 5 |
| 01:50.50 | bkw_ | its not a ' |
| 01:50.55 | bkw_ | sql shouldn't do this |
| 01:51.04 | killerbee | the \ means literal |
| 01:51.36 | bkw_ | lets give it a shot |
| 01:51.44 | killerbee | select * from table where number = \'333\' |
| 01:51.53 | killerbee | or at least should. |
| 01:52.00 | km- | lotsa errrors trhere |
| 01:52.10 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:52.12 | bkw_ | no |
| 01:52.16 | bkw_ | its NOT A FUCKING ' its a ` |
| 01:52.23 | bkw_ | you can't do \` |
| 01:52.25 | km- | we're quite fucking aware of that brian! |
| 01:52.25 | bkw_ | app_dbodbc.c:574:25: warning: unknown escape sequence '\`' |
| 01:52.29 | km- | you can however do \" :P |
| 01:52.43 | bkw_ | this shouldn't even be an issue |
| 01:52.47 | bkw_ | it should just work |
| 01:52.53 | bkw_ | evil thing |
| 01:52.53 | bkw_ | haha |
| 01:52.53 | bkw_ | oh well |
| 01:53.00 | km- | here let me try something |
| 01:53.45 | killerbee | betcha ... it breaks the sting into two |
| 01:53.47 | km- | hmm |
| 01:53.49 | bkw_ | mysql> INSERT INTO astdb (family,key,value) VALUES ('BLAH','blah','bkw'); |
| 01:53.49 | bkw_ | ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'key,value) VALUES ('BLAH','blah','bkw')' at line 1 |
| 01:53.50 | km- | \"'s not working either |
| 01:53.53 | km- | fucking crap |
| 01:54.18 | km- | astcdr=> INSERT INTO astdb (family,key,value) VALUES ('BLAH','blah','bkw'); |
| 01:54.18 | km- | INSERT 17784 1 |
| 01:54.35 | bkw_ | mysql> INSERT INTO `astdb` (`family`, `key`, `value`) VALUES ('BLAH','blah','bkw'); |
| 01:54.35 | bkw_ | Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec) |
| 01:54.45 | bkw_ | thats the only way I can get that to work |
| 01:54.51 | km- | astcdr=> INSERT INTO `astdb` (`family`, `key`, `value`) VALUES ('BLAH','blah','bkw'); |
| 01:54.51 | km- | ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "`" at character 14 |
| 01:54.59 | bkw_ | this is strange |
| 01:56.05 | bkw_ | INSERT INTO astdb VALUES ('BLAH','blah','bkw'); |
| 01:56.06 | bkw_ | that works |
| 01:56.24 | km- | astcdr=> INSERT INTO astdb VALUES ('BLAH','blah','bkw'); |
| 01:56.24 | km- | INSERT 17785 1 |
| 01:56.25 | km- | works here too |
| 01:56.30 | bkw_ | maybe we have to dumb it down for odbc to work properly |
| 01:56.33 | ErikN | km-: you normally dont quote table names |
| 01:57.49 | bkw_ | no you don't but it seems mysql wants that |
| 01:57.57 | bkw_ | but this shouldn't be an issue at this stage |
| 01:58.01 | bkw_ | it should just work |
| 01:58.50 | bkw_ | SELECT * FROM astdb WHERE family='BLAH' AND key='blah'; |
| 01:58.52 | bkw_ | thats not valid |
| 01:58.56 | bkw_ | fucking thing |
| 01:59.05 | bkw_ | ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'key='blah'' at line 1 |
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| 01:59.31 | bkw_ | SELECT * FROM astdb WHERE family='BLAH' AND `key`='blah'; |
| 01:59.34 | killerbee | better yet.. DO IT with a Stored procedure.. NO Intline sql |
| 01:59.35 | bkw_ | that fucking works |
| 01:59.41 | bkw_ | makes now fucking sense |
| 01:59.45 | killerbee | I mean inline |
| 02:00.26 | bkw_ | why the fuck isn't that valid |
| 02:01.17 | bkw_ | km- this is strange |
| 02:01.25 | TestMasTer | bkw_, did you get it to work? |
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| 02:02.28 | bkw_ | mysql> SELECT * FROM astdb WHERE family='BLAH' AND key='blah'; |
| 02:02.28 | bkw_ | ERROR 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'key='blah'' at line 1 |
| 02:02.49 | dant | bkw reserved word? |
| 02:02.55 | km- | possible.. |
| 02:03.30 | bkw_ | FUCK yes |
| 02:03.31 | bkw_ | its |
| 02:03.34 | bkw_ | sure the fuck is |
| 02:03.43 | km- | bkw: even more fun will be when we try to get this working on the as/400 as soon as I get the aui to utp converter :P |
| 02:03.48 | bkw_ | going to prefix them with astvaule,astfamily,astkey |
| 02:03.54 | dant | http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Reserved_words.html |
| 02:04.32 | dant | aye, that'll fix it |
| 02:04.40 | km- | these traffic-passing nets are nuts |
| 02:05.51 | extremis | does wcfxo work ok with 2.6.0? |
| 02:06.04 | km- | I dont think the 2.6.0 modules are done yet |
| 02:06.08 | bkw_ | ok fixed it |
| 02:06.19 | extremis | hrm, anyone use gentoo? |
| 02:06.46 | bkw_ | km http://asterisk.bkw.org/other/app_dbodbc.c |
| 02:06.51 | bkw_ | extremis yes I use gentoo |
| 02:07.08 | bkw_ | km- it was key... its reserved so I changed it to astkey,astfamily and astvalue |
| 02:07.25 | km- | ok I'll change my tables |
| 02:07.33 | tholo | You can quote reserved words too... |
| 02:07.44 | bkw_ | tholo you can? |
| 02:07.50 | bkw_ | oh well better to not have the drama |
| 02:07.53 | km- | lets not change it again please |
| 02:07.58 | km- | astkey sounds just fne to me :P |
| 02:08.09 | bkw_ | astfamily and astvalue also |
| 02:08.10 | tholo | E.g. "SELECT * FROM `astdb` WHERE `family`='BLAH' AND `key`='blah';" |
| 02:08.26 | bkw_ | oh yes we did that postgres didn't like it |
| 02:08.29 | bkw_ | mysql did |
| 02:08.34 | bkw_ | thats why it was like that |
| 02:08.42 | extremis | bkw_: using 2.6.0? |
| 02:08.52 | bkw_ | extremis nope.. no zap support |
| 02:08.55 | tholo | Fuck PostgreSQL. ;-) |
| 02:09.00 | bkw_ | tholo hahahahaha |
| 02:09.02 | km- | BAH! |
| 02:09.02 | extremis | gentoo-dev-sources are 2.6.0 today |
| 02:09.09 | extremis | bkw_: who worte the zap support? |
| 02:09.11 | extremis | wrote |
| 02:09.20 | km- | bkw: it worked :) |
| 02:09.27 | bkw_ | km- good now I learned something today |
| 02:09.30 | bkw_ | :) |
| 02:09.32 | km- | bkw: I wrote some extensions to guarantee people were not dialing long distance out of my enum context :P |
| 02:09.50 | bkw_ | kewl |
| 02:09.56 | bkw_ | atleast you found the bug eh |
| 02:09.58 | bkw_ | :) |
| 02:10.00 | km- | [enumloc] |
| 02:10.00 | km- | exten => _16106351197,1,Goto(inbound-menu,s,1) |
| 02:10.00 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,1,SetVar(enumok=0) |
| 02:10.00 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,2,ODBCget(enumok=${EXTEN:1:3}/${EXTEN:4:3}) |
| 02:10.00 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,3,GotoIf(${enumok}?4:900) |
| 02:10.01 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,4,ChanIsAvail(Zap/1) |
| 02:10.04 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,5,Dial(Zap/1/${EXTEN}) |
| 02:10.07 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,6,Hangup |
| 02:10.07 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,105,Playback(enum-inuse) |
| 02:10.09 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,106,Hangup |
| 02:10.11 | km- | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,900,Congestion |
| 02:10.20 | bkw_ | kewl |
| 02:10.24 | extremis | km-: what do you keep in your DB backend? |
| 02:10.30 | km- | extremis: postgresql |
| 02:10.35 | extremis | non o, what data |
| 02:10.39 | km- | extremis: next week, it'll be an iSeries server |
| 02:10.45 | km- | oh |
| 02:10.47 | bkw_ | km- now thats a test |
| 02:10.52 | km- | family is the area code, key is the prefix |
| 02:10.54 | km- | bkw: :P |
| 02:10.57 | bkw_ | I have to change the voicemail odbc stuff not to use the word user in the query |
| 02:11.04 | TestMasTer | can someone tell me what i have to do to enable mysql support with cdr? |
| 02:11.18 | bkw_ | TestMasTer use cdr_odbc :P |
| 02:11.38 | bkw_ | I have to redo some stuff in that to make it better |
| 02:11.41 | bkw_ | but I use it |
| 02:11.46 | TestMasTer | oh ok thanx bkw_ |
| 02:11.59 | TestMasTer | bkw_, do you use it with your extensions, and Sip stuff? |
| 02:11.59 | bkw_ | gotta install unixodbc and myodbc but other than that it will talk to mysql |
| 02:12.07 | km- | extremis: is that what you wanted to know? |
| 02:12.08 | bkw_ | TestMasTer nope... I have 3 exten |
| 02:12.29 | extremis | km-: I wanted to know what you use your DB for... other than checking to see if the enum is ok |
| 02:12.35 | km- | oh |
| 02:12.45 | TestMasTer | Ok i think i seen information on using it with the other stuff So i will just try that... thanx bkw_ For the information |
| 02:12.46 | km- | it also stores cdr and voicemail extensions |
| 02:12.50 | extremis | I'm new, so I'm ultra interested in other's setups |
| 02:12.50 | bkw_ | with ODBCget/put/del/deltree man just think of the kewl shit you can do |
| 02:13.02 | km- | yeah, I just use the three that bkw haxx0red |
| 02:13.14 | km- | cdr, voicemail, and odbcget/put |
| 02:13.22 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 02:13.28 | extremis | you store voicemail in the DB? |
| 02:13.32 | bkw_ | voicemail is almost ready to make it in to CVS |
| 02:13.34 | km- | store voicemail metadata |
| 02:13.36 | jtew__ | bkw: when will they be merged in to CVS? |
| 02:13.40 | extremis | whats the metadata? |
| 02:13.42 | km- | i.e., extensions contexts e-mails |
| 02:13.47 | km- | not the actual voicemails |
| 02:13.47 | extremis | ahh |
| 02:14.01 | extremis | you find that to be more convinient? |
| 02:14.06 | km- | not really |
| 02:14.06 | bkw_ | oh ya |
| 02:14.09 | km- | it doesnt work that well |
| 02:14.09 | km- | :) |
| 02:14.11 | bkw_ | if you have alot of voicemail boxes |
| 02:14.17 | km- | app_directory doesnt check odbc |
| 02:14.29 | bkw_ | km- :) yes it will if you use the one I posted to bugs |
| 02:14.39 | km- | I'm waiting for it to hit CVS |
| 02:15.07 | bkw_ | i'm going to get the vm stufff into cvs after xmas I think |
| 02:15.23 | bkw_ | just a few tweaks to it to purdy it up |
| 02:15.46 | extremis | other than loligo are there any other good example sites? |
| 02:15.55 | extremis | I'd like to see all the cool shit |
| 02:15.57 | bkw_ | ya my brain |
| 02:16.01 | extremis | like use of app_directory |
| 02:16.06 | extremis | hell I didn't even knwo that existed |
| 02:16.10 | extremis | bkw_: heh |
| 02:16.15 | extremis | it would be cooler if it was in html |
| 02:16.18 | extremis | :) |
| 02:16.31 | extremis | write a brain=>html parser |
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| 02:19.11 | TestMasTer | anyone know why this wouldn`t work? exten => 5000,1,Goto(50) |
| 02:21.33 | km- | Goto 50 of what? |
| 02:21.43 | km- | Goto is Goto(context,extension,priority) |
| 02:21.59 | TestMasTer | oh ok thanx kim- |
| 02:22.23 | km- | hehe |
| 02:22.25 | km- | kim! |
| 02:22.46 | TestMasTer | whops Sorry i ment km- |
| 02:22.58 | bkw_ | OH MOTHER FUCKER |
| 02:23.04 | km- | thats ok, I wish I was a cute chick named kim sometimes, I'd stay home and play withmyself all the time! |
| 02:23.09 | bkw_ | get this |
| 02:23.13 | bkw_ | ok here comes a bit paste |
| 02:23.14 | bkw_ | I can tell you really don't want my money. I told you I had paid that account current so what did you do cut it off |
| 02:23.14 | bkw_ | anyway. I was on my way to CA and did not have time to argue with you about it. I will be putting together a list of |
| 02:23.14 | bkw_ | all the money paid to you for ISP service. I suggest you hope I do find an error on my side because I'm sure over the |
| 02:23.15 | bkw_ | time I have used your service I have been charged for the same months more than once. At the time it wasn't important, |
| 02:23.18 | bkw_ | now it is because I need any email sent to my mail box on your server. |
| 02:23.33 | bkw_ | OH THIS BITCH |
| 02:23.42 | km- | hahaha |
| 02:23.43 | bkw_ | I have fought with her for 4 years now |
| 02:23.48 | bkw_ | every fucking month |
| 02:24.11 | bkw_ | I can go back to DAY MOTHER FUCKING ONE! |
| 02:27.22 | bond | In file included from btree/btree.h:44, |
| 02:27.22 | bond | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.22 | bond | include/mpool.h:53: syntax error before "CIRCLEQ_ENTRY" |
| 02:27.22 | bond | include/mpool.h:64: syntax error before "CIRCLEQ_HEAD" |
| 02:27.29 | bond | any one knows anything ? |
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| 02:33.28 | km- | nope |
| 02:33.32 | km- | we' dont know nuthin |
| 02:35.59 | *** join/#asterisk mikee (~chatzilla@introspect.com) |
| 02:37.39 | TestMasTer | anyone know where i can get a list of the diffrent tables, that are needed for mysql to work with cdr? |
| 02:38.00 | km- | they're included I think |
| 02:38.41 | km- | postgres_cdr.sql in asterisk root directory |
| 02:40.50 | TestMasTer | km-, ok ty |
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| 02:46.22 | *** part/#asterisk Lee1 (~MMM@211.24.146.14) |
| 02:46.22 | jtew__ | can't believe libya finally got a clue |
| 02:46.58 | km- | eh? |
| 02:47.33 | jtew__ | km-: front page of news.google.com |
| 02:47.59 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:50.54 | atacomm | Easy to use, low maintanance, no commitment, and easy to mute. What everyman wants |
| 02:50.56 | atacomm | Atacomm IP Centrex |
| 02:51.03 | atacomm | hmm, think i'd get in trouble? |
| 02:51.09 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:51.10 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:51.22 | doughecka | and registeres the domain |
| 02:51.52 | atacomm | lol, what trade mark |
| 02:51.56 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:52.06 | atacomm | i've already applied for atacomm |
| 02:52.06 | km- | jtew: ah. |
| 02:52.21 | km- | atacomm: what is centrex anyway? |
| 02:52.32 | atacomm | my biz partner and i were trying to figure out how to get peoples attention for our service on the front page, and came up with that idea, lol |
| 02:52.40 | atacomm | km: centrex is essencially hosted pbx |
| 02:52.50 | atacomm | so ip centrex is hosted ip pbx |
| 02:53.10 | atacomm | I'm trying to figure out how to describe it in like 1 word and cant |
| 02:53.13 | km- | oh, so kinda like the shit I was thinking of doing |
| 02:53.17 | doughecka | hahah |
| 02:53.23 | km- | atacomm: outsourced! |
| 02:53.24 | doughecka | ~virtual-pbx! |
| 02:54.19 | atacomm | hmm |
| 02:54.31 | doughecka | vhp! |
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| 02:54.34 | bkw_ | grrrrr |
| 02:54.39 | doughecka | WOOF |
| 02:54.39 | Stealth_Man | ~seen moc |
| 02:54.41 | | moc <~Moc@modemcable205.159-202-24.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 18h 52m 23s ago, saying: 'it cut on my end'. |
| 02:54.41 | bkw_ | this bitch is on my last nerve |
| 02:54.58 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 02:55.02 | km- | bkw: man, just invite her not to use your service anymore |
| 02:55.07 | km- | well, you're not the boss so you can't do that |
| 02:55.15 | km- | but you can get rid of customers, you know |
| 02:55.15 | Stealth_Man | bkw: which bitch ? |
| 02:55.20 | bkw_ | km- I am about to. |
| 02:55.45 | km- | theres no law that says you cannot terminate your agreement with a customer, as long as there are no contractual obligations otherwise |
| 02:55.45 | doughecka | hack into her computer |
| 02:55.46 | bkw_ | dumb bitch |
| 02:55.49 | bkw_ | I SWEAR |
| 02:55.56 | doughecka | and delete everything of value |
| 02:56.01 | km- | rollergrrl: we missed you on our ereet conference call! |
| 02:56.08 | bkw_ | I can tell you really don't want my money. |
| 02:56.10 | bkw_ | that makes me laff |
| 02:56.14 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:56.17 | Stealth_Man | bkw: don;t you have in contract : we can terminate service at any time |
| 02:56.17 | Stealth_Man | ? |
| 02:56.17 | bkw_ | I'm almost tempted to tell the bitch to go away |
| 02:56.20 | km- | "NO, I WANT YOUR BLOOD." |
| 02:56.20 | *** kick/#asterisk [km-!~brian@ns.bkw.org] by bkw_ (autokick for CAPS LOCK) |
| 02:56.24 | doughecka | LOL |
| 02:56.25 | bkw_ | DAMN IT |
| 02:56.26 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:56.28 | *** join/#asterisk km- (pgrace@virgil.fierymoon.com) |
| 02:56.32 | bkw_ | sowwy |
| 02:56.32 | doughecka | [21:58:28] <@bkw_> DAMN IT |
| 02:56.32 | doughecka | [21:58:29] <@bkw_> haha |
| 02:56.36 | zigman | bkw_, your girlfirend ? |
| 02:56.43 | km- | one of these days I'm going to get someone to kill you ;P |
| 02:57.14 | bkw_ | haha |
| 02:57.21 | km- | dude, it was awesome |
| 02:57.23 | km- | you'd get an oper to kill you |
| 02:57.30 | km- | when you reconnected |
| 02:57.37 | km- | you'd get like 50 "Happy Birthdays!" |
| 02:57.38 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 02:58.13 | km- | kristy says its time for bed! |
| 02:58.21 | doughecka | km-: whos that? |
| 02:58.24 | km- | my wife! |
| 02:58.29 | doughecka | geek? |
| 02:58.33 | km- | nope |
| 02:58.39 | doughecka | sux to be you |
| 02:58.40 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:58.45 | km- | does not suck to be me! |
| 02:58.50 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:58.51 | doughecka | j/k |
| 02:58.54 | km- | yeah man, I get laid like crazy |
| 02:59.02 | km- | geek girls are all like "uh, no, I'm busy playing quake" |
| 02:59.12 | doughecka | were you on last night? |
| 02:59.12 | rollergrrl | km-: when ya gonna have another? |
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| 02:59.26 | bkw_ | km- ya your wife doesn't count |
| 02:59.28 | km- | rollergrrl: we were going to have one tonight but it never materialized |
| 02:59.32 | km- | bkw: BAH |
| 02:59.37 | rollergrrl | aww :( |
| 02:59.43 | rollergrrl | I came later |
| 02:59.47 | rollergrrl | but it was all geek talk |
| 02:59.47 | km- | bkw: why can't my wife count for sex? I mean, that's the only person I'm going to have sex with, Except for Left-Hand |
| 02:59.47 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 02:59.49 | rollergrrl | so i left |
| 02:59.58 | bkw_ | km- she lets you use your left hand? |
| 03:00.00 | Stealth_Man | eheh |
| 03:00.08 | km- | bkw: hee hee |
| 03:00.14 | bkw_ | man.. my bf gets mad when I do that |
| 03:00.23 | km- | nah man, it's cool... |
| 03:00.28 | rollergrrl | I knew it bkw_ |
| 03:00.32 | rollergrrl | you talk too much to be straight |
| 03:00.37 | bkw_ | omg you coudln't tell |
| 03:00.38 | km- | she's all about whatever I feel like with the whole five-finger massage |
| 03:00.51 | bkw_ | we flame so bad we burnt down the neighbors house |
| 03:00.53 | bkw_ | I got pictures |
| 03:00.57 | doughecka | LOL |
| 03:00.57 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 03:01.00 | km- | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:01.01 | Stealth_Man | rofl |
| 03:01.07 | bkw_ | thank you thank you |
| 03:01.12 | bkw_ | i'll be here all week! |
| 03:01.12 | Celtic | bkw_: Caught out I'm afraid ;-) |
| 03:01.31 | bkw_ | strickly dickly here! |
| 03:01.38 | km- | heh |
| 03:01.38 | Celtic | Shouldn't that be "talk to much sense to be straight" .... |
| 03:01.44 | km- | my wife is amused by our meaningless banter! |
| 03:01.46 | km- | she's hovering |
| 03:01.51 | doughecka | NOOO |
| 03:01.52 | bkw_ | haha |
| 03:01.59 | bkw_ | ya I live to entertain |
| 03:02.17 | km- | yeah yeah |
| 03:02.26 | atacomm | Low maintanance, no commitment, always turned on, and easy to mute: Atacomm IP Centrex |
| 03:02.30 | km- | kristy says hi to everyone :P |
| 03:02.47 | km- | ok |
| 03:02.50 | km- | time for bed, later guys |
| 03:02.55 | doughecka | noooo |
| 03:02.55 | rollergrrl | aww |
| 03:02.56 | doughecka | :P |
| 03:02.57 | rollergrrl | night |
| 03:02.57 | Stealth_Man | hehe |
| 03:03.07 | bkw_ | BED |
| 03:03.10 | bkw_ | BED |
| 03:03.12 | bkw_ | on a friday? |
| 03:03.13 | bkw_ | shit |
| 03:03.23 | bkw_ | I don't get to bed till like 3 am on fridays |
| 03:03.39 | bkw_ | saturdays and sometimes sundays |
| 03:06.07 | atacomm | stupid catch lines, cant think of one, argggg |
| 03:06.19 | rollergrrl | atacomm sure sends lots of money to google |
| 03:06.42 | atacomm | yes i do, lol |
| 03:06.48 | rollergrrl | everytime i do a search |
| 03:06.58 | rollergrrl | I see atacomm on the sidebar |
| 03:06.58 | rollergrrl | hehe |
| 03:07.03 | Stealth_Man | heh |
| 03:07.10 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: how big is bill ? |
| 03:07.16 | atacomm | lol...biiiiigg |
| 03:07.22 | Stealth_Man | hmmm |
| 03:07.24 | bkw_ | ok teevee time.. bbl |
| 03:07.24 | rollergrrl | I shouldn't click through, right? |
| 03:07.25 | rollergrrl | clicking costs you money? |
| 03:07.30 | rollergrrl | or just a search? |
| 03:07.41 | atacomm | roller: true, although they do stop counting past the first click from an ip |
| 03:07.46 | rollergrrl | ahh ok |
| 03:07.49 | Stealth_Man | hmmm |
| 03:07.56 | atacomm | but some ads like cisco cost $3 a click |
| 03:08.05 | rollergrrl | ouch |
| 03:08.16 | Stealth_Man | that's too much ... 3$ ...shit |
| 03:08.34 | rollergrrl | that's a major chunk of profit in one click |
| 03:08.34 | doughecka | :P |
| 03:08.47 | atacomm | yeah, especially when the cisco phones are impossible to get, lol |
| 03:09.00 | doughecka | ohQ!??!!? |
| 03:09.09 | extremis | gs phones? |
| 03:09.09 | doughecka | I will beta test free phones |
| 03:09.15 | Stealth_Man | :)) |
| 03:09.22 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: how many shelll I order for you ? |
| 03:09.23 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 03:09.26 | atacomm | lol, with a year long contract with Atacomm IP Centrex, rofl |
| 03:09.29 | doughecka | haaaaa |
| 03:09.44 | TestMasTer | is the cdr-odbc.? layed out the same as the cdr-pgs.conf? |
| 03:10.10 | atacomm | i dont think i can use my woman joke on the page.....i might get slapped around for a few years, i must find a better tag line |
| 03:10.25 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 03:10.51 | atacomm | plus, when trying to find a gf, doesnt help to say see, here's what i do for work, and have her read a comment like that |
| 03:11.12 | Stealth_Man | hehehehe |
| 03:11.39 | extremis | so, whats this gs phone you are talking about? |
| 03:11.50 | Stealth_Man | extremis: grandstream ip phones |
| 03:11.57 | Stealth_Man | 65$ pc.. |
| 03:12.01 | extremis | ahh, they aren't very attractive |
| 03:12.10 | extremis | Stealth_Man: you sell them? |
| 03:12.13 | Stealth_Man | extremis : for budget they are ! |
| 03:12.17 | Stealth_Man | yes |
| 03:12.22 | Stealth_Man | ~grandstream |
| 03:12.23 | | 65USD /phone email to voipsales@xvoip.com |
| 03:12.27 | atacomm | they are for the vision impared |
| 03:12.34 | Stealth_Man | hehe |
| 03:12.44 | atacomm | they have huge ass numbers on them |
| 03:13.02 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: black phones are look nicer, compare to white ones |
| 03:13.03 | extremis | Stealth_Man: soft buttons which can be reconfigured? |
| 03:13.15 | Stealth_Man | soft ? |
| 03:13.25 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: i have sent you some blue phones too ... |
| 03:13.26 | rollergrrl | my skin is soft |
| 03:13.29 | Stealth_Man | you will see difference |
| 03:13.31 | rollergrrl | i use lots of lotion |
| 03:13.32 | extremis | do they haver redefinable buttons? |
| 03:13.52 | Stealth_Man | extermsi :) i know what do you mean .. :)) |
| 03:13.58 | Stealth_Man | not really |
| 03:14.17 | extremis | Stealth_Man: voicemail button? call forward? |
| 03:14.28 | Stealth_Man | extremis: yes , speakerphone, etc |
| 03:14.38 | extremis | oh they do speakerphone too |
| 03:14.39 | Stealth_Man | they are cheap .. it is not Cisco |
| 03:14.43 | Stealth_Man | but price is excellent |
| 03:14.46 | Stealth_Man | yeh |
| 03:14.54 | extremis | but the 7905's look professional |
| 03:14.58 | Stealth_Man | of course ! |
| 03:14.59 | extremis | at least for a budget phone |
| 03:15.04 | Stealth_Man | Cisco is Cisco |
| 03:15.07 | extremis | and only $35 more |
| 03:15.28 | extremis | Stealth_Man: grandstream.com? |
| 03:15.33 | Stealth_Man | still many people are looking for something to start with ... so it makes sense for them to go and buy cheap phone |
| 03:15.38 | Stealth_Man | later they will upgrade |
| 03:15.46 | Stealth_Man | extremis: yep |
| 03:16.05 | Stealth_Man | rollergrrl: why do you use lot of lotion ?:)) |
| 03:16.15 | YoYo | thank you |
| 03:16.19 | YoYo | =D |
| 03:16.22 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 03:16.29 | Stealth_Man | hehe |
| 03:16.43 | rollergrrl | does skinny work? |
| 03:16.54 | Stealth_Man | hahah |
| 03:20.20 | rollergrrl | men have wonderful minds |
| 03:20.32 | extremis | Stealth_Man: do we have to email to order? |
| 03:20.37 | extremis | I want one to test |
| 03:20.48 | kram | amazing the effect sleep deprivation can have on a coder |
| 03:22.34 | atacomm | Hosted Telephony: PBX for Hire |
| 03:23.03 | rollergrrl | What kind of effect is that? |
| 03:23.10 | rollergrrl | Do you see dancing penguins? |
| 03:26.14 | Stealth_Man | hahahahah |
| 03:31.24 | extremis | ok, I need verification that stealth_man is reputable (and his company) (I'm new here) |
| 03:32.05 | loko_moko | hes a conartist |
| 03:32.10 | extremis | heh |
| 03:32.14 | Stealth_Man | ohhh |
| 03:32.14 | loko_moko | takes your money, looks up your address, and has you wacked |
| 03:32.22 | loko_moko | then moves onto the next newbie |
| 03:32.28 | loko_moko | stealthman is reputable |
| 03:32.34 | loko_moko | send him all your bling bling |
| 03:32.41 | loko_moko | lol |
| 03:32.42 | jtew__ | bling bling rocks |
| 03:32.51 | loko_moko | sm do you have iax going yet |
| 03:33.04 | loko_moko | i need to find a cheap local colocation place |
| 03:34.05 | bond | loko_moko: define cheap |
| 03:34.19 | loko_moko | dpeneds where its at |
| 03:34.29 | bond | well where do you want it ? |
| 03:34.34 | loko_moko | around pittsburgh =) |
| 03:34.39 | loko_moko | for no more than $300 /mbs |
| 03:34.43 | Stealth_Man | loco: come to NY |
| 03:34.45 | loko_moko | im in LA now |
| 03:34.52 | Stealth_Man | I will colocate your boxes :) |
| 03:34.54 | loko_moko | heh |
| 03:34.56 | loko_moko | how much |
| 03:35.04 | Stealth_Man | what is needed ? |
| 03:35.09 | Stealth_Man | exactly ? |
| 03:35.09 | loko_moko | i need a pri as well =P |
| 03:35.15 | Stealth_Man | NY DID's ? |
| 03:35.17 | loko_moko | 1 mbs, 10 U of space, 1 Pri |
| 03:35.25 | loko_moko | or 800 |
| 03:35.29 | bond | well, you could get colocation in sweden för about $150 and thats one machine included |
| 03:35.30 | Stealth_Man | for what do you ned PRI ? |
| 03:35.34 | FlatCat | :/ |
| 03:35.37 | loko_moko | to sell voip =P |
| 03:35.44 | Stealth_Man | loko: outbound /inbound ? |
| 03:35.48 | loko_moko | yes |
| 03:35.54 | loko_moko | im just joking |
| 03:35.59 | loko_moko | im not moving to NY unless its a hella of a deal |
| 03:35.59 | Stealth_Man | ;-) |
| 03:36.06 | loko_moko | but im getting fed up with LA |
| 03:36.10 | Stealth_Man | don;t move to NY ... so many people around .. |
| 03:36.14 | loko_moko | SBC keeps fucking shit up |
| 03:36.45 | Stealth_Man | heh |
| 03:36.48 | loko_moko | what does a PRI cost ya there |
| 03:36.53 | loko_moko | i was quoted $250 in LA |
| 03:37.14 | Stealth_Man | it's around 500-700 |
| 03:37.21 | loko_moko | including loop, port, local/ld and 1000 free ld minutes a month |
| 03:37.21 | Stealth_Man | depends how many are you buying ... |
| 03:37.22 | loko_moko | shit |
| 03:37.26 | loko_moko | thats expesnive as fuck man |
| 03:37.26 | Stealth_Man | ohhhh |
| 03:37.45 | loko_moko | even in pittsburgh, home of no fiber and jack shit for telecom, its only $400 |
| 03:37.51 | Stealth_Man | wow |
| 03:38.58 | loko_moko | im surprised it is so much in LA |
| 03:39.44 | TestMasTer | anyone here using mysql or postgres, to hold there cdr information in? |
| 03:39.52 | loko_moko | LA = NY i mean |
| 03:40.45 | Stealth_Man | loko: for 1 PRI yes ... |
| 03:40.56 | loko_moko | how many do you have |
| 03:41.00 | Stealth_Man | if you are maing deal withcarrier and getting more .. you can get discount |
| 03:41.04 | loko_moko | i guess your not in a carrier hotel? |
| 03:41.41 | loko_moko | i mean the building your in |
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| 03:41.54 | loko_moko | how much of that is the loop |
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| 03:42.17 | Stealth_Man | loop around 200-250 |
| 03:42.23 | loko_moko | ok |
| 03:42.38 | loko_moko | so now you get down into PA range when u remove the loop |
| 03:42.55 | loko_moko | the one telco colocates in the building i was looking at, so there is no loop |
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| 03:54.50 | TestMasTer | anyone have a sample cdr_odbc.conf? |
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| 04:02.35 | rollergrrl | has anyone used a 7910? |
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| 04:02.48 | extremis | is that a conf room phone? |
| 04:02.57 | rollergrrl | nope |
| 04:02.58 | extremis | I want one of the cisco polycom conf room phones |
| 04:03.54 | jtew__ | I want a 20LB block of gold |
| 04:04.02 | extremis | :) |
| 04:12.37 | TestMasTer | umm help, I`m getting this error from asterisk Junk at the beginning |
| 04:12.37 | TestMasTer | Warning, flexibel rate not heavily tested! and then it goes in to ouch Audo Pipe Broke or something like that |
| 04:13.21 | TestMasTer | anyone? |
| 04:16.08 | Stealth_Man | Friday ev /.. they are drinking i assume |
| 04:16.09 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 04:16.16 | Stealth_Man | TestMaster relax :) |
| 04:17.07 | TestMasTer | lol Sorry its just annoying me with this thing |
| 04:17.21 | TestMasTer | It keeps happening, And now evertime i reboot the asterisk server it happens |
| 04:18.02 | rollergrrl | everyone is out partying |
| 04:18.21 | Stealth_Man | heh |
| 04:19.25 | TestMasTer | do you two happen to know what it is ? |
| 04:19.46 | Stealth_Man | testmaster : what about ? |
| 04:20.20 | TestMasTer | I need to know what this Flexibel rate is, and is there anyway to disable it |
| 04:20.36 | Stealth_Man | testmaster: you have to speak with bkw i think |
| 04:20.46 | Stealth_Man | which appl do you use ? |
| 04:20.59 | TestMasTer | about 90% of them |
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| 04:32.34 | _Eagle_ | no one in the conference eh? |
| 04:32.53 | extremis | I will as soon as gentoo finishes |
| 04:33.32 | _Eagle_ | let me know if it starts up, ill go do something productive i guess |
| 04:33.36 | _Eagle_ | brb |
| 04:34.35 | Stealth_Man | which conference ? |
| 04:34.38 | ErikN | is there a command line option to bring up the x11 interface from remote on asterisk? |
| 04:35.11 | bkw_ | LKDFSJ:WOIERJG |
| 04:35.11 | bkw_ | omg |
| 04:35.14 | bkw_ | this bitch has had it |
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| 04:36.47 | Stealth_Man | bkw: what happened ? |
| 04:36.57 | bkw_ | > I really have had enough of your attitude. I've been a good customer since |
| 04:36.57 | bkw_ | > Brian started this, I've put up with bad services, no service and now I'm |
| 04:36.57 | bkw_ | > being called a liar. Enough is enough. Like I said you better hope I don't |
| 04:36.58 | bkw_ | > find duplicated checks for the same months. I'm sure there are some. I do |
| 04:36.58 | bkw_ | > suggest you forward any emails in my box to this email address. You will be |
| 04:37.00 | bkw_ | > finished with me except for any refunds I will expect when I find proof of |
| 04:37.01 | bkw_ | > over payment. |
| 04:37.27 | Stealth_Man | ohhh |
| 04:37.33 | Stealth_Man | yooo bad boi :) |
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| 04:39.45 | bkw_ | oh but this is all I said to her |
| 04:39.57 | bkw_ | > > Beverly, |
| 04:39.57 | bkw_ | > > I have attached your complete account ledger in Excel format all |
| 04:39.58 | bkw_ | > > the way back to 1998. Please let me know if you find a payment that |
| 04:39.58 | bkw_ | > > hasn't been posted. I also do not see any thing that shows you were |
| 04:39.58 | bkw_ | > > billed for the same months twice. I told you last month it wasn't paid in |
| 04:39.58 | bkw_ | > > full and that you had a balance of $27.25 that was due on 11/28/2003 and |
| 04:40.00 | bkw_ | > > the current balance of $21.95 is due on 12/28/2003 for a total of $49.20. |
| 04:40.02 | bkw_ | > > |
| 04:40.04 | bkw_ | > > If you have any questions please feel free to email me or call 967-2858 |
| 04:40.06 | bkw_ | > > ext. 111. |
| 04:40.21 | bkw_ | and she comes back with the abover |
| 04:40.35 | Stealth_Man | hmmmm |
| 04:40.43 | Stealth_Man | heh customer ... |
| 04:40.48 | bkw_ | not anymore |
| 04:41.02 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 04:41.19 | Stealth_Man | i think you get used for customers like she :) |
| 04:43.16 | YoYo | *BURP* |
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| 04:46.59 | tc | My client has several offices thoughout the US and UK and wants to keep their existing pbx system but wants to route inter-office phone calls through VoIP. Suggestions? |
| 04:47.08 | Stealth_Man | asterisk |
| 04:47.20 | tc | How? |
| 04:47.35 | jtew__ | I would use VoCarrierPigeon |
| 04:47.38 | Stealth_Man | depends on architecture |
| 04:47.50 | Stealth_Man | how many lines in each office |
| 04:47.53 | Stealth_Man | what kind of PBX |
| 04:48.18 | tc | 8 - 10 lines. PBX could be Nortel , Mitel or Cisco |
| 04:48.52 | tc | Is there a way to route the interoffice phone calls throught asterisk? |
| 04:48.52 | Stealth_Man | ok ... |
| 04:48.56 | Stealth_Man | sure |
| 04:49.16 | tc | How would that work? |
| 04:49.16 | Stealth_Man | what you need is asterisk in each office |
| 04:49.27 | Stealth_Man | and setup outgoing lines via Asterisk |
| 04:49.35 | Stealth_Man | and link asterisk together |
| 04:49.38 | Stealth_Man | that's ir |
| 04:49.40 | Stealth_Man | it |
| 04:50.06 | tc | How would the hardware pbx link to asterisk? |
| 04:50.09 | Stealth_Man | or better is to put ip phones in each office and register them on * |
| 04:50.24 | Stealth_Man | you have to put into Asterisk some cards ... |
| 04:50.41 | tc | But that would require replacing their exiting phone system? |
| 04:50.43 | bkw_ | w00t the boss is letting me fire this one |
| 04:50.55 | bkw_ | <mrunix> send her packing |
| 04:50.55 | bkw_ | <bkw> thank you |
| 04:50.55 | bkw_ | <mrunix> merry christmas :) |
| 04:51.01 | bkw_ | :) |
| 04:51.02 | bkw_ | w00t |
| 04:51.09 | Stealth_Man | bkw: congratulations :)) |
| 04:51.14 | _Eagle_ | cool |
| 04:51.21 | Stealth_Man | nice bosss BKW )) |
| 04:51.29 | _Eagle_ | so the customer thinks she overpaid? |
| 04:51.38 | Stealth_Man | tc: send me contact info, i will explain you in details |
| 04:51.38 | bkw_ | yep |
| 04:51.41 | bkw_ | but she never pays on time |
| 04:51.52 | Stealth_Man | bkw: time to sent her packing :)) |
| 04:51.53 | _Eagle_ | bkw: i have lots of people like that |
| 04:51.54 | bkw_ | she's on the SBC all distance plan calling an out of town ISP also |
| 04:52.09 | bkw_ | so when SBC catches her.. man is she gonna be mad |
| 04:52.09 | _Eagle_ | bkw: that's against SBC rules |
| 04:52.13 | bkw_ | I know that |
| 04:52.15 | bkw_ | and I told her that |
| 04:52.26 | bkw_ | they bill back bill her ass at 14 cents a min |
| 04:52.27 | _Eagle_ | time for a quick call to SBC :-) |
| 04:52.32 | tc | info@cartersolutions.com |
| 04:52.44 | Stealth_Man | tc : info@xvoip.com |
| 04:53.16 | _Eagle_ | bkw: you charge $21.95/month for dialup? |
| 04:53.47 | tc | Thanks! |
| 04:53.48 | _Eagle_ | i wish people would actually pay that still :-) |
| 04:54.06 | _Eagle_ | i cant get people to pay $19.95 anymore |
| 04:54.29 | _Eagle_ | had like 1 signup in the past 4 months, and they never sent their check so i shut them off |
| 04:54.34 | ErikN | what is a good win32 tool to convert wave to asterisk loved gsm? |
| 04:55.35 | _Eagle_ | ive been contemplating the idea of starting a $9.95 ISP |
| 04:56.39 | _Eagle_ | hmm.. is like AT&T wireless completely down in detroit? |
| 04:56.55 | _Eagle_ | i cant reach a friend of mine, keep getting a busy signal all day |
| 04:57.03 | Stealth_Man | Eagle: isn;t it horroble to start dial-up service now ?! |
| 04:57.31 | _Eagle_ | stealth: there's still a huge market for dialup... but no one wants to pay $19.95 anymore |
| 04:57.35 | Stealth_Man | someone still using dialup ? i think all are going to switch soon to DSl/cable .. |
| 04:57.43 | Stealth_Man | of course noone wants to pay 19.95 |
| 04:57.44 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 04:57.44 | _Eagle_ | never |
| 04:57.52 | Stealth_Man | if i can get from SBC26$ DSL |
| 04:58.05 | Stealth_Man | what is the reason to have 19$ dialup .. |
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| 04:58.30 | _Eagle_ | only 10% of internet users in the US are on cable or dsl... the rest are dialup |
| 04:58.37 | Stealth_Man | yehhh nice ... |
| 04:59.01 | Stealth_Man | so companies still making money on it .. ehh |
| 04:59.06 | _Eagle_ | 80% of dialup users (i.e. 80% of the 90%) say they wont even pay $19.95 for broadband internet |
| 04:59.19 | _Eagle_ | they feel broadband isnt worth $19.95 |
| 04:59.21 | bkw_ | _Eagle_ yes we are 21.95 |
| 04:59.39 | bkw_ | we are in Oklahoma.. we arelucky to have dsl in some places.. |
| 04:59.42 | _Eagle_ | so i have no doubt there is a huge dialup market out there |
| 04:59.44 | bkw_ | some places don't even have dialup |
| 04:59.49 | bkw_ | or ANYTHING |
| 04:59.54 | _Eagle_ | but i dont know what the sweet spot is for pricing yet.... |
| 04:59.56 | Stealth_Man | terrible |
| 04:59.56 | Stealth_Man | :) |
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| 05:00.38 | _Eagle_ | personally, i like my T1.. and i miss it... i dont like dialup too much |
| 05:00.56 | bkw_ | w00t |
| 05:01.05 | bkw_ | ding dong.. the bitch is gone.... ding dong.. the bitch is gone.. |
| 05:01.10 | _Eagle_ | but i'm a power user... and dialup has worked ok for me so far... even though i'm not thrilled with it... for 43 days |
| 05:01.18 | bkw_ | I can live with dialup |
| 05:01.25 | bkw_ | not like I use alot of bandwidth anyway |
| 05:02.24 | _Eagle_ | around here, the daysof $19.95 dialup are over, or going away fast |
| 05:02.33 | _Eagle_ | people want cheap internet |
| 05:02.38 | _Eagle_ | it's a commodity now |
| 05:02.48 | Stealth_Man | eagle: where are you ? |
| 05:03.17 | _Eagle_ | the only real problem is that $9.95 doesn't leave much room for an advertising budget, which makes it hard to get new customers unless you have a large customer base already |
| 05:03.23 | _Eagle_ | michigan |
| 05:03.52 | Stealth_Man | 9.95$ shit for unlimited Dialup ... ohh |
| 05:04.04 | Stealth_Man | makes no business sense i think |
| 05:04.08 | Stealth_Man | no margin will left .. |
| 05:04.50 | _Eagle_ | at $9.95 i can walk away with $5.00 profit (before advertising, tech support, etc) |
| 05:04.59 | bkw_ | NOT in this area you can't |
| 05:05.23 | bkw_ | Oklahoma sucks |
| 05:05.30 | Stealth_Man | wow |
| 05:05.36 | Stealth_Man | nice Eagle |
| 05:05.38 | _Eagle_ | i figure if i get a 5:1 user to modem ratio, my cost for modem/phone line/bandwidth is about $3.80 per user |
| 05:05.44 | _Eagle_ | plus $1 for credit card billing |
| 05:05.45 | bkw_ | _Eagle_ lucky ass |
| 05:05.56 | bkw_ | we have had to do CT1's at 1.2k each |
| 05:06.03 | bkw_ | no other option till recently |
| 05:06.11 | bkw_ | and we are moving to that option as our contracts expire |
| 05:06.18 | _Eagle_ | bkw: i wouldn't even bother being an ISP today if you have to pay more than $500 for a PRI |
| 05:06.29 | bkw_ | excatly |
| 05:06.45 | Stealth_Man | eagle : how many customers do you have ? |
| 05:06.48 | Stealth_Man | today |
| 05:06.50 | _Eagle_ | at $1200 for a CT1, i'd simply close up shop |
| 05:06.52 | extremis | bah, I hate gentoo |
| 05:07.09 | _Eagle_ | stealth: not many left... but i still charge $19.95 |
| 05:07.10 | extremis | the smc-ultra module loads fine on the live cd, but doesn't in the gs-sources or gentoo-sources |
| 05:07.20 | Stealth_Man | is it like 1000 users ? |
| 05:07.22 | Stealth_Man | or less ? |
| 05:07.22 | extremis | why can't they stay consistant |
| 05:07.23 | Stealth_Man | more ? |
| 05:07.37 | extremis | and the install doc says that the livecd is gs-sources, which is bullshit |
| 05:07.38 | _Eagle_ | we've lost most of our userbase over the past 5 years because people wont pay $19.95 anymore and we didn't listen |
| 05:07.42 | Stealth_Man | how much AOl is chargin now ? still 23.95$ ? |
| 05:07.49 | _Eagle_ | under 500 now actually |
| 05:08.27 | Stealth_Man | Eagle: I think you need to bring your customers some value-added services ... to keep them paying you ... |
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| 05:14.52 | Stealth_Man | tznager: yeehh for dialup absolutely |
| 05:15.13 | _Eagle_ | manpower for tech support, sales, billing, etc.... |
| 05:15.25 | _Eagle_ | and advertisng costs... to get the word out that you exist |
| 05:15.31 | Stealth_Man | tznager: but stil lwhat are the prices for DS3 ... ~ ? |
| 05:15.44 | _Eagle_ | without those 2 things, dialup woud be a no brainer |
| 05:16.30 | tzanger | Stealth_Man: under CDN$800 |
| 05:16.37 | tzanger | er sorry that is per PRI heh |
| 05:16.44 | Stealth_Man | LOL |
| 05:16.56 | _Eagle_ | damn... i was gonna say... $400 per DS3 would give me a heart attack |
| 05:17.09 | tzanger | say under CDN$20k per DS3 |
| 05:17.47 | Stealth_Man | like 700CDN per T1 |
| 05:18.04 | tzanger | Stealth_Man: yup... I can't give exact prices, sorry |
| 05:18.21 | Stealth_Man | tznager: I know what do you mean ;-) I am not asking about it |
| 05:18.30 | Stealth_Man | tzanger: how can you handle DID's to me ? |
| 05:18.43 | _Eagle_ | lets see... that means if i bought a DS3 of PRI's, i'd be paying about $9800/month |
| 05:18.54 | _Eagle_ | that sounds about right after the exchange rate |
| 05:19.04 | _Eagle_ | so we're paying about the same rate, give or take |
| 05:19.09 | Stealth_Man | 20 CDN ~ 9800 USD ???!! |
| 05:19.13 | tzanger | Stealth_Man: not set up for that at all, unfortunately |
| 05:19.23 | Stealth_Man | tznager: no palns for it ? |
| 05:19.31 | tzanger | ~calc 20000 * 0.75 |
| 05:19.33 | _Eagle_ | stealth: no... i would pay $9800 for a DS3 of PRI's here |
| 05:19.43 | tzanger | hmm damn bot |
| 05:19.43 | Stealth_Man | i see Eagle |
| 05:19.47 | _Eagle_ | i dont know what $20k canadian is in usd |
| 05:19.47 | tzanger | ~20000 * 0.75 |
| 05:19.48 | | 15000 |
| 05:19.53 | tzanger | about US$15k |
| 05:19.55 | Stealth_Man | www.xe.com |
| 05:19.56 | tzanger | give or take |
| 05:20.05 | _Eagle_ | so my cost is less then |
| 05:20.33 | loko_moko | ds3 of pris is how many pri ? |
| 05:20.48 | tzanger | loko_moko: 28 PRI, with NFAS and no backup D channels 668 lines IIRC |
| 05:20.50 | Stealth_Man | 28 |
| 05:21.01 | _Eagle_ | so to go from USD to CND you multiply by 1.5% ? |
| 05:21.15 | tzanger | ~6 * 24 + 23 |
| 05:21.16 | | 167 |
| 05:21.21 | loko_moko | eagle what city would this be in |
| 05:21.25 | tzanger | ~167 * 4 |
| 05:21.26 | | 668 |
| 05:21.31 | tzanger | wow I was bang on |
| 05:21.38 | Stealth_Man | :)) |
| 05:21.40 | _Eagle_ | detroit |
| 05:22.08 | loko_moko | isnt $9800 for a DS3 of pris expensive? |
| 05:22.14 | loko_moko | thats $350 / pri |
| 05:22.24 | tzanger | you can get PSTN-connected PRIs for cheaper? |
| 05:22.28 | _Eagle_ | yeah |
| 05:22.29 | bkw_ | MAN I love it.. ding dong the bitch is gone.... |
| 05:22.38 | tzanger | ~350 / 23 |
| 05:22.40 | | 15.217391304348 |
| 05:22.40 | _Eagle_ | but that includes colo, bandwidth, etc |
| 05:23.46 | _Eagle_ | ive never bought more than 4 circuits at a time from anyone yet... |
| 05:23.56 | _Eagle_ | so i dont know what they would do for higher volume pricing |
| 05:24.06 | _Eagle_ | i just took a 1-circuit price and multipled times 28 |
| 05:24.24 | _Eagle_ | i bet if i bought 28 circuits there'd be room to negotiate that i dont know about |
| 05:24.25 | Stealth_Man | eagle : of course you will get discount |
| 05:24.41 | loko_moko | oh i didnt know it included colo and bandwidth |
| 05:24.53 | loko_moko | yea im sure there are |
| 05:24.56 | atacomm | bkw, you got a minute? |
| 05:25.01 | loko_moko | i just got quotes and people were telling me $400-450 a month |
| 05:25.06 | loko_moko | im down to $250 / month now for a single pri |
| 05:25.13 | loko_moko | and this was just 1, not 28 |
| 05:25.17 | _Eagle_ | what city? |
| 05:25.19 | loko_moko | with no volume commitment |
| 05:25.19 | Stealth_Man | different states, different pricing |
| 05:25.20 | loko_moko | LA |
| 05:25.34 | Stealth_Man | + local loop is crqazy expensive |
| 05:25.44 | _Eagle_ | who uses local loops? :-) |
| 05:25.56 | _Eagle_ | local loop = throwing money in the toilet... when you're an isp |
| 05:26.07 | _Eagle_ | colo man... colo all the way |
| 05:26.14 | loko_moko | yup |
| 05:26.21 | loko_moko | im moving into carrier centre |
| 05:26.29 | loko_moko | if i still in LA... ive been having some issues |
| 05:26.29 | Stealth_Man | Eagle: sometimes you still need local loop .. i am talkig about voice stuff ... |
| 05:27.01 | _Eagle_ | having to drive 45 minutes at 2 am to work on hardware problems is worth the savings of $300-500 per circuit, especially when you have a lot of circuits |
| 05:27.02 | atacomm | anyone have an * box in testing that can verify a bug that someone i met with told me of today that locks up *? |
| 05:27.58 | atacomm | wtf, i'll kick your ass |
| 05:28.08 | _Eagle_ | stealth |
| 05:28.15 | _Eagle_ | stealth: voice is a different animal |
| 05:28.16 | bkw_ | w00t w00t w00t w00t |
| 05:28.19 | atacomm | i'm busy, i've got to get my service up by monday, i will finish them with you on monday |
| 05:28.22 | bkw_ | DING DONG THE BITCH IS GONE!! |
| 05:28.24 | Stealth_Man | eagle: yeehh |
| 05:28.35 | Stealth_Man | bkw: relax , she is gone :)) |
| 05:28.44 | bkw_ | man she ripped me a new ass like 5 times for no reason.. i'm just sooo excited |
| 05:28.45 | _Eagle_ | voice is more fun than dialup |
| 05:28.50 | atacomm | bkw: i met with a guy today who said if you are in a meetme, and you transfer that call to the meetme, it puts * into an infinate loop that locks up the process |
| 05:28.50 | bkw_ | _Eagle_ I agree |
| 05:28.53 | Stealth_Man | eagle : ooo yeehhh |
| 05:29.11 | bkw_ | atacomm um why would you do that? |
| 05:29.23 | bkw_ | it causes feedback |
| 05:29.28 | bkw_ | and you have to softhangup the thing |
| 05:29.31 | bkw_ | NEVER NEVER do that |
| 05:29.35 | bkw_ | tell that guy he's a dumb ass |
| 05:29.41 | atacomm | bkw: dont know, but just the thought that someone could do it and lock up the box is scary |
| 05:29.53 | bkw_ | dont enable # transfers in meetme |
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| 05:29.56 | bkw_ | simple |
| 05:30.01 | atacomm | lol |
| 05:30.20 | rollergrrl | bkw_ needs to get out more |
| 05:30.20 | _Eagle_ | conferencing is pretty cool |
| 05:30.36 | wsuff[afk] | rollergrrl: speak for yourself =) |
| 05:30.41 | _Eagle_ | the whole reason i got excited about asterisk in the first place over a year ago is because of conferencing |
| 05:30.41 | rollergrrl | haha |
| 05:30.47 | rollergrrl | i was out all day long |
| 05:31.02 | Stealth_Man | atacomm : hahahah |
| 05:31.06 | bkw_ | you can't do transfers into a meetme |
| 05:31.06 | rollergrrl | i'm taken |
| 05:31.10 | rollergrrl | his name is 'my job' |
| 05:31.10 | bkw_ | only sip tranfers |
| 05:31.10 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: you need time for GF :)) |
| 05:31.15 | Stealth_Man | and you are busy |
| 05:31.16 | Stealth_Man | :)) |
| 05:31.22 | wsuff[afk] | rollergrrl: only a mirror setback |
| 05:31.39 | wsuff[afk] | tzanger: didn't we discuss this once here? |
| 05:31.43 | wsuff[afk] | minor |
| 05:31.44 | wsuff[afk] | heh e |
| 05:31.46 | bkw_ | atacomm it doesn't lock up the box |
| 05:31.50 | bkw_ | it just keeps the channel tied up |
| 05:31.51 | atacomm | stealth: lol, well if i get this girl down the hall from me, there is always a minute here or there that we can close the office door ;) but thats unlikely |
| 05:31.53 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.53 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.53 | bkw_ | 1 active channel(s) |
| 05:31.59 | tzanger | wsuff[afk]: yup, I was just bringing it up because atacomm made it on-topic heh |
| 05:32.07 | atacomm | bkw: hmm, ok |
| 05:32.12 | wsuff[afk] | tzanger: ggotya |
| 05:32.20 | pheller | Could anyone lend a hand with a fwd problem? I'm admittedly an asterisk newbie.... |
| 05:32.23 | bkw_ | you can fix those by doing a restart when convient once a day |
| 05:32.39 | bkw_ | atacomm im' sure we can fix that |
| 05:32.40 | tzanger | wsuff[afk]: I was at her place today with my kids (and hers) -- ex was not impressed at all |
| 05:32.55 | wsuff[afk] | tzanger: rightly so though no? |
| 05:32.58 | bkw_ | the meetme M option is really really nice |
| 05:32.58 | atacomm | what i should probably do is in the near future dedicate a server to vm and conference, and not have to worry |
| 05:33.38 | tzanger | wsuff: yeah I think so... like I said though do I put my feelings on hold for someone who didn't want to be with me anymore? |
| 05:33.41 | Stealth_Man | bkw: M what is doing ? |
| 05:33.55 | atacomm | stealth, it gets worse, once this is running and paying for itself, we have to move quickly into Chicago, NY, and Boston which is phase 2 |
| 05:34.14 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: too late for you |
| 05:34.26 | Stealth_Man | we will publish on Monday our 37 states coverage list |
| 05:34.38 | atacomm | stealth: we already have competitors here, no matter, they will be out of business |
| 05:34.42 | _Eagle_ | atacomm: what are you doing? what type of business? |
| 05:34.50 | atacomm | hosted pbx service |
| 05:34.51 | rollergrrl | Stealth_Man: in my state? |
| 05:35.02 | Stealth_Man | we have in utah too |
| 05:35.03 | _Eagle_ | elaborate? |
| 05:35.23 | wsuff | _Eagle_: so people don't gotta learn * themselves =) |
| 05:35.35 | atacomm | Eagle: as in hosted pbx....incomnig DIDs, phone extensions, auto attendants, LD service, local service |
| 05:35.54 | wsuff | atacomm: i'm moving away from that |
| 05:35.58 | rollergrrl | atacomm: for small biz? |
| 05:36.01 | _Eagle_ | using voip? or forwarding to their existing pots lines? |
| 05:36.07 | wsuff | i have kall8 and net2phone for doing that now |
| 05:36.31 | loko_moko | atacomm move into pittsburgh |
| 05:36.35 | atacomm | roller: yup, its got a 4-digit dialplan for each business for extensions....... oh and it does hunt groups |
| 05:36.46 | loko_moko | stealth_man, why only 37 states coverage |
| 05:36.53 | atacomm | loko: might, we are actually going to use a single telco location to do 50% of the east coast |
| 05:37.04 | loko_moko | how do you add remote DIDs |
| 05:37.05 | Stealth_Man | we ajsut starting :) |
| 05:37.06 | rollergrrl | wow |
| 05:37.24 | Stealth_Man | in Canada 24 cities in Ontario ... |
| 05:37.26 | extremis | if I'm using fedora and I do a make depend and then compile the wcfxo module it compiles it for kernelversioncustom so I can't load it with modprobe unless I do a make install and use the 'custom' kernel. Is there any way around this? |
| 05:37.31 | loko_moko | can i get other DIDs on my PRI from other cities? |
| 05:37.40 | tzanger | Stealth_Man: who do you work with? |
| 05:37.51 | atacomm | loko: usually not, unless you have a really lenient telco |
| 05:37.56 | loko_moko | stealth - yea but isnt LD the same price for all the states? |
| 05:38.04 | loko_moko | atacomm which telco you using -) |
| 05:38.06 | loko_moko | =) |
| 05:38.09 | Stealth_Man | loko: outbound yes , but incoming ? |
| 05:38.15 | loko_moko | ohhh |
| 05:38.18 | loko_moko | ok |
| 05:38.23 | loko_moko | I didnt know you were in 37 states |
| 05:38.28 | loko_moko | thought you were just in NYC |
| 05:38.37 | Stealth_Man | tzanger: some medium size telco |
| 05:38.45 | atacomm | loko: lol, in the east we will be using Global NAPs..... they are the company that provides eFax with all their numbers out in the east |
| 05:38.52 | Stealth_Man | we are looking to open office in Toronto in Q1 2004 |
| 05:38.56 | loko_moko | atacomm where do you live |
| 05:38.57 | tzanger | Stealth_Man: do you sell voip LD service? |
| 05:39.02 | atacomm | loko: minneapolis area |
| 05:39.04 | loko_moko | how do you guys "sell" the service |
| 05:39.09 | Stealth_Man | tzabger : yehh |
| 05:39.29 | wsuff | Stealth_Man: eat so u can do my quote =) |
| 05:39.43 | Stealth_Man | wsuff I am eating now |
| 05:39.44 | atacomm | stealth: dont give away my phones |
| 05:39.45 | Stealth_Man | :)) |
| 05:39.57 | wsuff | atacomm: i'm buying em |
| 05:40.27 | atacomm | well seeing i already priority mailed him a check i'm going to rip his liver out and feed it to a shark |
| 05:40.43 | wsuff | yummy |
| 05:40.52 | _Eagle_ | atacomm: how are you sending calls to your customers' premises? using voip or forwarding out through your PRI's to their existing POTS lines? |
| 05:41.19 | wsuff | checks suck |
| 05:41.22 | atacomm | 9 days i beleive it was, from postmark |
| 05:42.15 | Stealth_Man | shit |
| 05:42.27 | _Eagle_ | atacomm? |
| 05:43.11 | atacomm | me? |
| 05:43.24 | _Eagle_ | ok.. third time's a charm: |
| 05:43.27 | _Eagle_ | atacomm: how are you sending calls to your customers' premises? using voip or forwarding out through your PRI's to their existing POTS lines? |
| 05:44.03 | rollergrrl | carrier pigeon? |
| 05:44.07 | atacomm | Eagle: VoIP. And we are setting up agreements with our local ISPs for free bandwidth and they are becoming resellers of our service |
| 05:44.35 | _Eagle_ | see... that's too risky for my taste |
| 05:44.58 | wsuff | voip as a biz isn't my cup of tea |
| 05:45.10 | _Eagle_ | i wouldn't want to risk a business's phone services on a voip link over the internet |
| 05:45.22 | wsuff | but it still has great upside but i rather leave it to others to handle |
| 05:45.32 | _Eagle_ | only way i would do it is with a data T1 between my colo center and the business location |
| 05:45.42 | atacomm | eagle: not really, with the ISP on board, we have direct connection into them. DSL/T1 goes directly into their router, then directly into our switch.......very decent QoS compared to them randomly chosing an ISP....so we recommend the ISP to our customers, they give us free bandwidth to their customers, win-win |
| 05:45.45 | _Eagle_ | otherwise, voip is too risky for mission critical apps |
| 05:45.58 | tzanger | _Eagle_: funny, I have found the VOIP (voicepulse) to be very good |
| 05:46.11 | tzanger | I'm 17 hops to gw5.voicepulse.com |
| 05:46.39 | atacomm | yup, and our recommended ISP setup will mean less than 5 hops at anytime |
| 05:46.50 | tzanger | the only bad times are when we saturate our link and that is only because I haven't actually gotten around to making the firewall give top priority to VOIP traffic. the upstream router does but my poor little dsl link can still get eaten up |
| 05:46.50 | _Eagle_ | different market altogether then |
| 05:46.52 | rollergrrl | I think atacomm has a winner |
| 05:47.10 | _Eagle_ | i dont sell to businesses that can afford their own T1 |
| 05:47.12 | tzanger | less than 5 hops to what |
| 05:47.13 | _Eagle_ | :-) |
| 05:47.14 | Stealth_Man | Eagle : if VOIP carriers will partner with ISPs , then both will have business |
| 05:47.21 | Stealth_Man | and we will users back :) |
| 05:48.26 | atacomm | problem is the complexity of partnering nationwide and guarenteeing the highspeed interconnect at every partner ISP :) |
| 05:49.00 | rollergrrl | just hire good salespeople |
| 05:49.32 | _Eagle_ | i would have no problem with being both the ISP and the VOIP carrier, if i could find businesses that are willing to pay for a T1 |
| 05:49.34 | pheller | Ok, so I've got a box behind a linksys nat box running asterisk. 7960 registers with asterisk, and asterisk registers with FWD. I can successfully make calls with bidirectional audio to FWD extensions, but 5 or 6 seconds into the call, I get: |
| 05:49.35 | Stealth_Man | roller : are you looking for job ? |
| 05:49.36 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 05:49.45 | rollergrrl | haha |
| 05:49.55 | pheller | damn cut/paste |
| 05:49.59 | rollergrrl | i'm fine right where i'm at |
| 05:50.15 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 05:50.22 | pheller | chan_sip.c line 464, retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call. |
| 05:50.25 | pheller | any suggestions? |
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| 05:52.11 | mishehu | pheller: don't use a linksys firewall? |
| 05:52.14 | *** join/#asterisk coppice_ (~Steve@87.143.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 05:52.29 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: hire rollergrrl |
| 05:52.35 | _Eagle_ | anyway |
| 05:52.39 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 05:52.49 | _Eagle_ | i'm staying away from selling voip services for now |
| 05:52.51 | pheller | mishehu: that was exactly the answer I was looking for, thanks. |
| 05:52.57 | _Eagle_ | until i see what happens down the road |
| 05:52.59 | Stealth_Man | we will be hiring for support group... |
| 05:53.25 | _Eagle_ | i'm more interested in stuff like conferencing |
| 05:53.53 | rollergrrl | If you can do better than mid six figures, I'll bite. |
| 05:54.05 | atacomm | _Eagle_ now is the time to get in it...its about to get crowded and go thru a shakedown |
| 05:54.19 | extremis | ok, I don't have to have sound support in my kernel for * to be able to interact with users (voicemail ... the works) do I? |
| 05:56.50 | rollergrrl | pheller |
| 05:57.00 | rollergrrl | what does your fwd look like in sip.conf? |
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| 05:58.39 | pheller | [fwd] |
| 05:58.42 | pheller | type=friend |
| 05:58.46 | pheller | secret=password |
| 05:58.54 | pheller | username=21746 |
| 05:58.59 | pheller | host=fwd.pulver.com |
| 05:59.20 | rollergrrl | are you natting? |
| 05:59.27 | Stealth_Man | atacom: I will sell it for you for cheap 200000 zillion dollars a minute |
| 05:59.41 | pheller | yes. I've set the externip in [general] |
| 05:59.51 | atacomm | lol, uh no |
| 05:59.55 | Stealth_Man | ok ok |
| 05:59.56 | rollergrrl | adding: |
| 05:59.56 | rollergrrl | reinvite=no |
| 05:59.56 | rollergrrl | canreinvite=no |
| 05:59.56 | rollergrrl | nat=1 |
| 05:59.57 | Stealth_Man | atacomm |
| 05:59.58 | rollergrrl | helped me |
| 06:00.03 | Stealth_Man | 199999 zillions |
| 06:00.11 | pheller | and I can forward 5060 from the nat box, but I don't know how to specify the media ports...? |
| 06:00.31 | Stealth_Man | ~xvoip |
| 06:00.33 | | New Generation voice network , contact registry@xvoip.com |
| 06:00.44 | wsuff | atacomm: why not? |
| 06:00.57 | atacomm | wsuff: rivalry |
| 06:01.15 | wsuff | atacomm: so u wanna fight for my itty bitty biz too? |
| 06:01.16 | wsuff | heh e |
| 06:01.42 | atacomm | wsuff: lol, what do you do? i might? |
| 06:01.52 | loko_moko | you guys can fight over me too |
| 06:01.53 | Stealth_Man | ooops |
| 06:01.59 | loko_moko | whoever pays me to use their long distance services get me <G> |
| 06:02.01 | extremis | so, how are you forwarding calls to pulver? |
| 06:02.06 | atacomm | thats ok, i think i'll go find a girl to fight over |
| 06:02.10 | extremis | I guess its a free voip service? |
| 06:02.10 | loko_moko | lol |
| 06:02.12 | loko_moko | good call |
| 06:02.21 | Stealth_Man | hahah |
| 06:02.31 | atacomm | lol, oooh, sign me up |
| 06:02.49 | pheller | ok, just forwarded all udp to the thing and it works now. |
| 06:03.23 | loko_moko | are any of you guys in LA? |
| 06:03.29 | loko_moko | servers in LA i mean |
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| 06:03.51 | atacomm | loko: i mgiht be in the summer....our provider on the east coast is finishing their LA switch location right now |
| 06:04.12 | Stealth_Man | atacomm i will colocate with yuo our West cost NOC |
| 06:05.06 | atacomm | lol...i see how it is..... approach your enemy, partner with them, only to kill them once you are in the door..... i know a certain man who does that.... Kill Bill is a story about him |
| 06:05.19 | Stealth_Man | :))))))))))))) |
| 06:05.37 | coppice_ | jamie: so softmodem.org still exists, eh? :-) |
| 06:05.39 | Stealth_Man | Kill Bill was written in regards of Microsoft lovers |
| 06:06.26 | jamie_ | yeah yah cheeky bugger |
| 06:06.51 | coppice_ | jamie: do you have any V.56 channel sim code? |
| 06:06.54 | jamie_ | with this cold <sniff> I'm amazed I still exist |
| 06:07.17 | jamie_ | nope, I haven't done anything with V.56, just up to V.34 |
| 06:07.40 | loko_moko | atacomm, do you know where in LA you would go |
| 06:08.04 | jamie_ | how's the fax suite nowadays? |
| 06:08.13 | atacomm | loko: wherever GNAPs is |
| 06:08.21 | loko_moko | oh ok |
| 06:08.24 | Stealth_Man | roller: what are you doing here on Friday eve? |
| 06:08.30 | jamie_ | coppice_: how's the fax suite nowadays? |
| 06:08.35 | rollergrrl | I have no life? |
| 06:08.37 | atacomm | speaking of fax......can * detect the fax tone and forward to a particular extension? would be very useful |
| 06:09.31 | coppice_ | jamie: what approach did you use for carrier locking for your QAM modems? I've found mine is less stable than I originally thought. The need to stabilise the carrier frequency, while also adapting the equalizer is a slight pain. I'm playing around with new ideas again. |
| 06:09.32 | rollergrrl | Stealth_Man: Our voip sales are starting to boom... so this is my new life... |
| 06:09.44 | atacomm | rollergrrl: what do you do? |
| 06:09.48 | Stealth_Man | roller: cool |
| 06:10.02 | rollergrrl | atacomm: i run a consulting firm |
| 06:10.04 | loko_moko | rollergrrl how do you sell |
| 06:10.12 | rollergrrl | loko_moko: cold calls |
| 06:10.21 | loko_moko | do you provide them with hardware? |
| 06:10.27 | Stealth_Man | roller: let me helpo you with voip sales |
| 06:10.35 | jamie | coppice_: multiply signal with complex carrier & pick out symbols |
| 06:10.41 | rollergrrl | Stealth_Man: that's why I'm here :) |
| 06:10.48 | Stealth_Man | great |
| 06:11.10 | atacomm | hmm....cold calls...... ive got a local teleco consulting firm in the twin cities pushing my gear, nice size alliance....2 weeks old, already sold two complete systems |
| 06:11.17 | coppice_ | jamie: I have done V.27ter, to fill in the low FAX speeds. The scrambler was the hard part of that, as the spec. is really confusing. A number of things are more polished. I just need to get this carrier locking more solid. |
| 06:11.23 | jamie | coppice_: apply per-symbol "twist" to account for carrier phase evolution |
| 06:11.53 | rollergrrl | atacomm: cold calls help your sales remain consistant :) |
| 06:12.05 | Stealth_Man | OK people |
| 06:12.06 | coppice_ | jamie: How do you evaluate the rate of twisting? |
| 06:12.10 | Stealth_Man | who is in voip business here ? |
| 06:12.13 | rollergrrl | well... as consistant as sales can be |
| 06:12.14 | atacomm | roller: true, i could never do cold calls, would kill me |
| 06:12.14 | rollergrrl | hehe |
| 06:12.41 | rollergrrl | atacomm: you do it long enough... you become desensitized |
| 06:12.50 | atacomm | haha... |
| 06:12.57 | Stealth_Man | hehe |
| 06:13.01 | atacomm | i need to hire someone to do that out here |
| 06:13.45 | rollergrrl | go find a pushy car salesperson :) |
| 06:13.46 | _Eagle_ | roller: what do you sell? |
| 06:14.31 | rollergrrl | _Eagle_: wireless, network infrastructure, voip, servers... whatever |
| 06:15.20 | coppice_ | jamie: I measure the average balance of lead and lag against the target phase, and use that to tune the carrier frequency. The trouble is that during the initial carrier lock the equalizer is also adapting, so its a moving target. I get instability from this. |
| 06:15.26 | atacomm | i dont want someone pushy..the sales guy i have locally is great....its nice, i get him in the door all over the place from the website to sell PRI lines too, and i get a cut of his commision |
| 06:15.33 | jamie | coppice_: the basic problem is the equaliser tries to track the carrier phase error at the same time |
| 06:15.39 | jamie | coppice_: there's a degeneracy |
| 06:15.51 | zigman | what are cold calls ? |
| 06:16.02 | jamie | coppice_: so you can just try not equalising during the initial convergence :) |
| 06:16.12 | _Eagle_ | roller: so like, do you just resell other peoples products and services? or do you install all that stuff yourself? |
| 06:16.19 | jamie | coppice_: or do multi-pass analysis over many symbols at first |
| 06:16.25 | rollergrrl | atacomm: well... for cold calling... you want someone who can get the appointments... nothing else... |
| 06:16.43 | jamie | coppice_: meaning that you track the carrier for a few symbols to get the frequency |
| 06:16.46 | Stealth_Man | yehh , then atacomm your time to go and explain everything to client .. |
| 06:16.55 | atacomm | hehe |
| 06:16.58 | rollergrrl | exactly |
| 06:17.00 | Stealth_Man | but important thing is to go around secretary |
| 06:17.01 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 06:17.05 | Stealth_Man | shit |
| 06:17.09 | jamie | coppice_: and then _go back_ using that knowledge (of frequency + phase in fact) and do symbol |
| 06:17.15 | jamie | coppice_: tracking over the input |
| 06:17.33 | Stealth_Man | near wind turbine |
| 06:17.43 | Stealth_Man | use it as AC |
| 06:17.44 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 06:17.58 | coppice_ | jamie: "A few symbols" is the problem. Without noise a few symbols is enough to get a reasonable measure of the carrier frequency. As the noise rises, and things get jittery, it doesn't work so well. |
| 06:18.09 | rollergrrl | gonna go read a bit... take care guys |
| 06:18.24 | jamie | coppice_: I'm intrigued: why do you need to tune the carrier frequency while running the eq? |
| 06:18.28 | Stealth_Man | bye Lori |
| 06:18.30 | Stealth_Man | :) |
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| 06:18.54 | jamie | coppice_: Doesn't V.27ter have a fixed alternating symbol sequence at first? |
| 06:19.24 | jamie | coppice_: (Like V.32bis) |
| 06:19.30 | coppice_ | jamie: the initial period of phase reversals is not that long. In that short time you need to get both the carrier and an initial rough equalizer settled. |
| 06:19.51 | jamie | coppice_: You can't settle the equaliser, that input is degenerate |
| 06:20.39 | zigman | btw does anyone know a good small mp3 streaming server ? |
| 06:20.41 | coppice_ | jamie: I am treating V.27ter like QAM. Actually, there is no need to even recover the carrier there, as it is really DPSK. Treating it as QAM should make the error rate a bit lower, though. |
| 06:20.44 | zigman | or should i go with icecast ? |
| 06:20.48 | jamie | coppice_: You can however get an optimal estimate for the carrier using a Kalman filter |
| 06:21.25 | jamie | coppice_: locked onto a mixture of sine and cosine waves at the expected frequencies |
| 06:22.05 | coppice_ | jamie: I oversimplified. If you just run the equalizer as normal the lack of variability in the signal gives problems with multiple solutions for the adaption. I actually use only a narrow central section of the equalizer initially. |
| 06:22.05 | jamie | coppice_: (due to the symbol sequence, the frequency space (almost) a simple set of point frequencies) |
| 06:23.19 | _Eagle_ | i never thought i would *ever* say this... but... the conversation is way too geeky for me right now |
| 06:23.39 | _Eagle_ | so i think i'll go away for a while |
| 06:24.03 | coppice_ | Eagle: and this is only Statistical Communications 101 :-) |
| 06:24.03 | _Eagle_ | seeya folks |
| 06:25.33 | jamie | coppice_: if you start by assuming a fixed equalisation profile, then you can use a Kalman tracker to find a least-squares optimal estimate of phase and power for each fixed signal component in the alternating symbol sequence |
| 06:25.54 | jamie | coppice_: (Or just do direct least squares over the whole sample) |
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| 06:26.57 | Gunk | any chance there's someone here that can put up with me being a complete bitch long enough to help me get NAT working on a linux box? |
| 06:27.08 | jamie | coppice_: That gives you: amplitude, frequency _and_ phase of the carrier optimally assuming AWGN and that the actual channel profile is sufficiently close to the assumed one |
| 06:28.36 | wsuff | Gunk: what's the problem? |
| 06:28.43 | Gunk | I can ping |
| 06:28.46 | Gunk | I can ssh |
| 06:28.55 | coppice_ | jamie: I was looking for a minor tweak to what I do now. Perhaps I should do something more radical along the lines you suggest. It should be possible to implement the V.27ter and V.29 specs with pretty simple solutions, though. They were speced to be realisable with simple 1970's solutions. That guided my thinking |
| 06:28.56 | Gunk | but I can't open up any other ports |
| 06:29.28 | wsuff | firewall? |
| 06:29.40 | YoYo | i dunno |
| 06:29.45 | jamie | coppice_: In some ways, it's like doing least-squares equalisation, which means _rapid_ convergence. That's too computationally intensive normally which is why we don't do it, but it's fine in special cases like the pointwise signals of the alternating symbols |
| 06:29.49 | YoYo | I have no clue how to read this iptables stuff |
| 06:30.01 | YoYo | whoever wrote it was smoking crack... the least they could have done was make it human readable |
| 06:30.24 | Cripple | YoYo: are you looking for a firewall? |
| 06:30.30 | jamie | coppice_: The calculation I just described is very simple |
| 06:31.03 | coppice_ | jamie: I think they usually recovered the carrier with a Costas loop in pre-DSP V.29 modems. That can, of course, be done in DSP as well. It doesn't seem like it should be the simplest solution, though. |
| 06:31.35 | YoYo | Cripple: I installed RH9 on a machine to act as a pseudo-firewall and NAT router for my network. it's also my * server for home |
| 06:31.51 | jamie | coppice_: What is your update rule for the carrier tracker? |
| 06:31.53 | YoYo | so far, it's doing everything great, except letting me access the Internet from other computers on my network |
| 06:32.07 | bkw_ | YoYo you having a bad day? |
| 06:32.11 | YoYo | I've been fighting with it for like hours |
| 06:32.13 | YoYo | bkw, yes |
| 06:32.24 | bkw_ | YoYo I fired a cusotmer |
| 06:32.26 | bkw_ | w00t |
| 06:32.27 | YoYo | I've been resisting very hard the temptation to call you |
| 06:32.33 | YoYo | bkw, good for you |
| 06:32.52 | YoYo | ok, so how do I read this iptable stuff? |
| 06:33.09 | coppice_ | jamie: I use a measure of how far each symbol is from its target phase. Then I integrate and dump that measure, and kick the phase update rate of the DDS I used for the carrier. |
| 06:33.15 | bkw_ | www.bkw.org/~brian/asterisk-misc |
| 06:33.17 | Cripple | YoYo: I have a script that is very simple to read and understand that I will mail you |
| 06:33.24 | bkw_ | their is a iptables set for * in there somewhere |
| 06:33.36 | jamie | coppice_: You should not track the phase as a number |
| 06:33.48 | Cripple | YoYo: It will setup NAT and such.. If you want it just message me your address |
| 06:33.53 | YoYo | bkw, * is working fine |
| 06:33.57 | coppice_ | jamie: what do you mean? |
| 06:34.12 | YoYo | Cripple, sure... troy@psknet.com |
| 06:34.12 | jamie | coppice_: You should track a phase vector (i.e. I-Q deviation from the target point) |
| 06:34.24 | jamie | coppice_: And integrate that |
| 06:34.44 | TestMasTer | anyone alive, that knows how to get the phone to flash or something whent here is a message? |
| 06:34.56 | jamie | coppice_: (Sorry, thinko: with adjustment for the phase of the target symbol of course!) |
| 06:35.02 | coppice_ | jamie: why? that is how to do equalization. For carrier locking it is only the phase which matters |
| 06:35.28 | YoYo | testmaster, so far, I've found that * is, at best, flakey at lighting the VMI light |
| 06:36.04 | Cripple | YoYo: on it's way |
| 06:36.18 | TestMasTer | YoYo, oh ok, Umm do you happen to use a grandstream phone? |
| 06:36.29 | YoYo | no, I was using an ATA |
| 06:36.34 | jamie | coppice_: If a signal point is closer to the origin, your phase calculation makes the phase error look larger for the same amount of noise power |
| 06:36.34 | YoYo | now, I'm using analog sets only |
| 06:37.03 | TestMasTer | oh ok, I was just wondering if you knew how to get the message button to work to auto dial the vm server |
| 06:37.14 | jamie | coppice_: Worst case being if the point is on the origin (total lack of phase information) or on the other side (totally wrong phase estimate) |
| 06:37.50 | bkw_ | Cisco 7905's and 7960's all the way baby |
| 06:38.07 | jamie | coppice_: So the idea is that if you calculated a phase error using atan(), then you should reduce the weight of that in your integral for signals close to the origin. |
| 06:38.28 | coppice_ | jamie: I don't think that is too important. the noise affects the jitteriness of the measure, but the average is what casues updates. That should progress with the actual carrier freq error. |
| 06:39.23 | jamie | coppice_: You said integrate & dump; you mean over multiple symbols? |
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| 06:39.47 | jamie | coppice_: A basic rule is to keep the feedback paths as short as possible |
| 06:40.23 | bkw_ | loverly |
| 06:40.31 | bkw_ | tholo's rate_engine is killah |
| 06:40.43 | bkw_ | Rates and egress routes reloaded. |
| 06:40.43 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.43 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.43 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.55 | coppice_ | jamie: I think you need to use multiple symbols. A single one is too jittery. I had stability troubles when I tried things like that |
| 06:42.04 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.08 | bkw_ | if you specify exten1*exten2*.....# |
| 06:42.17 | jamie | coppice_: A single one is equivalent to the most naive implementation of DPSK demodulator you mentioned earlier |
| 06:42.47 | jamie | coppice_: You don't want to I&D, you want continuous feedback every symbol into the carrier phase estimate |
| 06:43.58 | jamie | coppice_: But the contribution from each symbol should be small because you're essentially making a very low pass filter |
| 06:45.32 | jamie | coppice_: Remember you are also tracking the frequency as well as the phase |
| 06:46.04 | jamie | coppice_: The phase varies more quickly (given an error in your frequency estimate) so the phase is most important, |
| 06:46.08 | coppice_ | jamie: if its very low pass, it won't pull in the carrier quickly. I &D has real stability benefits in that area. |
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| 06:47.16 | YoYo^ | ok god damnit |
| 06:47.18 | YoYo^ | iptables -F |
| 06:47.42 | YoYo^ | god damned this is the most ass-backwards OS I've dealt with in the better part of a decade |
| 06:47.52 | Cripple | YoYo: use the script |
| 06:48.02 | YoYo^ | had to flush teh fucking tables in order to get the script |
| 06:48.17 | YoYo^ | when I read the raw mail, it's got funky mime stuff, so it won't run right |
| 06:48.25 | jamie | coppice_: but if you choose not to keep adjusting the frequency estimate, your phase estimate will _always_ by slightly off |
| 06:48.37 | jamie | coppice_: Think of the difference between a 1st order and 2nd order PLL |
| 06:49.53 | jamie | coppice_: And that error will add slightly to your noise sensitivity |
| 06:50.37 | Cripple | YoYo: just get it from http://home.yottadot.org/christian/rc.firewall |
| 06:50.53 | coppice_ | jamie: with I & D a dump can be a small amount. when you are close to the target that small amount is dumped so seldom the error is tiny. My constellations look great. no problems there. its only the initial locking I have trouble with. PLLs usually used PID, which is like I&D |
| 06:50.55 | jamie | coppice_: I&D is equivalent to a kind of low pass filtering but it's jumpier, so the phase error accumulates towards the last symbol in the sequence |
| 06:58.07 | wasim | monring mr coppice_ sir |
| 06:58.42 | coppice_ | wasim: is that phone operating in Chinese yet? :-) |
| 06:59.10 | wasim | coppice_: no, sir, but we've almost figured out a way to get a graphic LCD in without messing too much with the existing design |
| 06:59.56 | wasim | coppice_: if that be the case, then we should be able to do most of arabic, urdu, hindi and the chinese langs |
| 07:00.04 | coppice_ | wasim: good. I guess you want a keypad entry method for Chinese now? |
| 07:01.41 | wasim | coppice_: now we have an edge there, coz the buttons can have text there, and if nice mr coppice_ sir, does a predictive text entry method that can use 20 buttons to get chinese iniput in, we're rockin |
| 07:01.53 | wasim | s/text there/soft config |
| 07:02.27 | coppice_ | I can do Chinese entry with 5 buttons, though 10 works better. With 20 I can do accelerators :-) |
| 07:02.36 | wasim | hail * |
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| 07:08.04 | jamie | coppice_: Wow, chinese in 10 buttons |
| 07:08.22 | coppice_ | jamie: 5 if you really want to. |
| 07:08.38 | jamie | I tried to enter some chinese text off a business card and I couldn't find any of the characters in the entire unicode |
| 07:08.56 | jamie | map, there's so many I couldn't recognise them |
| 07:09.17 | jamie | coppice_: 1 if you _really_ want to :) |
| 07:09.39 | coppice_ | jamie: depends what you mean by the entire Unicode. The full V3.1 Unicode is pretty comprehensive, with about 60,000 characters. |
| 07:09.51 | jamie | I mean the CJK section |
| 07:10.08 | YoYo | *BURP* |
| 07:10.42 | jamie | I'm just starting to recognise features of the chinese characters, but there's a way to go before being able to recognise them let alone remember what they mean ;) |
| 07:10.56 | coppice_ | jamie: of course, by typing something like morse code 1 should be possible. I'm not talkign about anything so cryptic, though. With 10 keys you can Enter Chinese in a style anyone who knows Chinese can learn to use quickly in 5 minutes |
| 07:11.54 | jamie | coppice_: What's the style Chinese use - I presume the characters are decomposed in some standard way, can you point me to what it is so I can read more? |
| 07:12.28 | coppice_ | jamie: the original CJK section was limited to common characters (about 15000 I think). In V2 it increased somewhat. In V3 they dumped in a mass of new ones from an older code called CCCII, and blew the 16 bit barrier away. :-) |
| 07:13.34 | jamie | Oh g-d, you mean the characters on this business card might not even be in the first 16 bits of Unicode, argh! |
| 07:14.32 | jamie | We need a web site which offers OCR for world languages, just like the current translation services |
| 07:16.02 | coppice_ | jamie: there are many ways to enter East Asian languages. The general approach that works well with limited keys is to enter the characters stroke by stroke. If you learn to read Chinese you learn a specific order in which the strokes should be written. There are many stroke shapes, but they break down into a few general types - horizontal, vertical, sloping left, sloping right, dot, etc. You can enter these just like entering Romance ch |
| 07:16.27 | wasim | Romancs ch? |
| 07:16.30 | pheller | anyone know if it's possible for asterisk to connect to a cisco callmanager as a peer? |
| 07:16.39 | jamie | coppice_: That was cool but stopped at "entering Romance ch" - line too long? |
| 07:16.57 | coppice_ | sloping left, sloping right, dot, etc. You can enter these just like entering Romance characters to spell a word. Sometimes you will hit 2 or 3 characters instead of 1, and you need a resolution method. Usually you are down to one, or just a few, after entering just the first few strokes. |
| 07:17.42 | wasim | ah, and those are predictive too, okay... nice |
| 07:20.56 | voidptr | moooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:21.03 | coppice_ | wasim: yeah. several tricks are possible for predictive entry. Obviously you want to offer the user the commonest characters that fit the strokes entered so far. That speeds things up a lot. Frequency of use info is available for this. You can also use a dictionary to associate across |
| 07:21.05 | coppice_ | multiple characters. Each Chinese characters is a syllable, but most words consist of multiple symbols. You can use that to do multiple character prediction with a dictionary. |
| 07:22.15 | jamie | Or you could go adventerous and try speech-to-text :) |
| 07:22.29 | coppice_ | I built a system like this for X11, but I've never tidied it up and released it. |
| 07:22.46 | jamie | Btw, when I said "no I haven't done V.56, just up to V.34" I was obviously asleep. |
| 07:22.55 | jamie | Because that doesn't make sense |
| 07:23.13 | coppice_ | .... or you could waste effort with fruitless speech recognition systems :-) |
| 07:23.53 | wasim | noooo! |
| 07:24.16 | jamie | Or, wait for this!! You're composing messages on a phone. You could do speech-to-text and then at the other end, text-to-speech!!!! |
| 07:24.16 | wasim | unless, kind mr coppice, sir does a nice one that can fit on 16K and work in 5 MIPS |
| 07:24.38 | coppice_ | actually, if I try the best English speech recognisers, the results are poor. However, even with my oddly pronounced Cantonese I get very good results with Speechworks ASR |
| 07:24.54 | coppice_ | 5MIPS is not a problem 16K is. :-) |
| 07:29.26 | coppice_ | jamie: bye. thanks for your input on the carrier issue |
| 07:30.44 | blitzrage | only 2:30am here :) |
| 07:30.50 | blitzrage | lots of time for poker |
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| 07:31.21 | coppice_ | blitzrage: its only 3:30PM. even more time to poke someone :-) |
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| 07:33.09 | karan | hi |
| 07:33.41 | karan | Does any one know, if I can do call recording with Asterix? |
| 07:34.28 | blitzrage | yes |
| 07:35.20 | karan | how? |
| 07:35.31 | blitzrage | you have to set it up in your dial plan |
| 07:35.35 | karan | What h/w or S/w will be required. |
| 07:35.37 | blitzrage | www.loligo.net/asterisk I believe |
| 07:35.48 | blitzrage | look in the example extension.conf file |
| 07:36.25 | karan | gr8. Thanks. |
| 07:36.33 | blitzrage | great |
| 07:37.02 | karan | can't find loligo.net. Domain is not coming up. |
| 07:37.09 | blitzrage | try .org or .com then |
| 07:37.14 | blitzrage | just going by memory |
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| 07:37.46 | ppc_iax | hey all |
| 07:41.38 | voidptr | pom pom |
| 07:41.40 | karan | blitxrage, I google it and found it. Thaks you the man! |
| 07:42.07 | karan | It has macro-record-on in that config file |
| 07:42.30 | blitzrage | yep |
| 07:42.36 | blitzrage | and I know I'm the man :) |
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| 07:44.15 | ppc_iax | anyone know where I can instructions on compiling the iax client for windows?? I want to make a port so that I can get it working on Windows CE |
| 07:44.26 | blitzrage | google |
| 07:44.28 | karan | I am just getting into Asterix :) Pretty exciting stuff! |
| 07:45.06 | pheller | it is pretty sweet. |
| 07:45.17 | Shido6_ | yes |
| 07:45.20 | Shido6_ | it is isnt it |
| 07:45.20 | pheller | I just wish my 7920 would hurry up and arrive. |
| 07:45.50 | karan | just last question. Can it be configured for time base or it will be permanent setting like recording all calls? |
| 07:46.01 | blitzrage | no idea |
| 07:46.06 | Shido6_ | time base? |
| 07:46.07 | blitzrage | never used the record "function" |
| 07:46.12 | karan | My questoin is in call-center context, where we need to monitor only some call for quality? |
| 07:46.26 | Shido6_ | you can record calls |
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| 07:46.35 | Shido6_ | but you'll have an in file and an out file :) |
| 07:46.48 | blitzrage | basically you can do anything you want, just need to configure asterisk to do it, or write an agi script, etc... |
| 07:47.05 | jamie | coppice_: bye. last words: I would not use I&D over multiple symbols, it's the opposite of minimising feedback paths which you want for stability. the reason you find it better than low pass feedback is that I&D feedback is larger and more rapid at first, but you can just use a larger feedback factor at first instead. For rapid initial convergence of phase least squares is best but the usual linear feedback systems are ok if there's enough ti |
| 07:47.05 | jamie | me in the predictable preamble. g'night |
| 07:47.13 | pheller | outbound, you could require another prepend digit, like * to indicate to record, then just strip that digit from the extension when you pass it along to the next context. |
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| 07:49.46 | voidptr | ok. |
| 07:55.58 | pheller | well, sleeptime for me. |
| 07:56.01 | pheller | gnight folks. |
| 07:58.48 | blitzrage | ok, lost in poker, g'night |
| 08:00.23 | rollergrrl | lots of sleeping people |
| 08:00.52 | YoYo^ | sleep is good |
| 08:00.56 | YoYo^ | wanna sleep with me? |
| 08:01.00 | voidptr | lol |
| 08:01.23 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 08:01.24 | rollergrrl | dork |
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| 08:02.38 | YoYo^ | rollergrrl, don't call voidptr a dork |
| 08:02.47 | YoYo^ | even though I'm sure he is |
| 08:02.54 | blitzrage | ok, anyone know why I still have stutter tone even though I have no voicemails in my inbox ? |
| 08:03.01 | blitzrage | I'm evening using newest CVS... |
| 08:03.23 | YoYo^ | blitz: didn't anyone warn you not to let your * box smoke crack? |
| 08:03.34 | blitzrage | YoYo^: no, no one warned me of that |
| 08:03.39 | YoYo^ | me neither |
| 08:03.50 | YoYo^ | my phones VMI lights light up randomly |
| 08:03.52 | voidptr | I am cute ;( |
| 08:04.01 | YoYo^ | and the dialtone stutters randomly |
| 08:04.15 | rollergrrl | YoYo^ is the dork |
| 08:04.15 | YoYo^ | so we ignore it and depend on email'ed copies of voicemail |
| 08:04.28 | YoYo^ | rollergrrl is mean :( |
| 08:04.31 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 08:04.36 | blitzrage | yo rollergrrl |
| 08:04.43 | YoYo^ | bah |
| 08:04.48 | rollergrrl | heya |
| 08:05.06 | YoYo^ | you probably think I'm a dork because I'm probably the one straight/single guy here who hasn't tried to hit on you |
| 08:05.15 | blitzrage | what's the good word? |
| 08:05.22 | rollergrrl | [01:00] <YoYo^> sleep is good |
| 08:05.22 | rollergrrl | [01:01] <YoYo^> wanna sleep with me? |
| 08:05.23 | voidptr | you just did! |
| 08:05.26 | rollergrrl | no? |
| 08:05.36 | YoYo^ | LOL |
| 08:05.43 | YoYo^ | that wasn't a come-on |
| 08:05.45 | YoYo^ | that was a joke |
| 08:05.54 | voidptr | thats what they all say |
| 08:05.55 | voidptr | ;) |
| 08:05.56 | blitzrage | lol |
| 08:06.05 | blitzrage | they only say that if the answer is no :) |
| 08:06.19 | rollergrrl | and 'dork' is an endearing term |
| 08:06.28 | YoYo^ | blitz: this is IRC... if the answer wasn't 'no,' I'd be running away by now |
| 08:06.28 | voidptr | ehehe |
| 08:06.36 | blitzrage | YoYo^: lol |
| 08:06.59 | YoYo^ | then again, I've not seen a pic of rollergrrl... maybe I woudln't run =D |
| 08:07.10 | blitzrage | I have :) |
| 08:07.14 | rollergrrl | besides, YoYo^ and I have passionate sex all the time... he doesn't need to hit on me |
| 08:07.21 | blitzrage | lol |
| 08:07.33 | voidptr | we don't want to know dammit! |
| 08:07.35 | voidptr | :P |
| 08:07.47 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 08:07.52 | blitzrage | YoYo^: you're not |
| 08:08.01 | YoYo^ | blitz, obviously not |
| 08:08.17 | blitzrage | YoYo^: don't worry, you wouldn't run |
| 08:08.18 | rollergrrl | this is the #astersex channel |
| 08:08.21 | blitzrage | lol |
| 08:08.33 | blitzrage | rollergrrl: thank god it's not #asstricks |
| 08:08.37 | YoYo^ | ok kids... I'm going to up my donation to $500 to get the zap shit ported to FreeBSD |
| 08:08.41 | YoYo^ | who's in? |
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| 08:08.51 | blitzrage | YoYo^: sorry, poor student over here. |
| 08:09.01 | voidptr | morning miller |
| 08:09.10 | rollergrrl | YoYo^: get ldap going with * and i'll give you $1000 |
| 08:09.18 | miller7 | hello people, hey voidptr |
| 08:09.21 | voidptr | i would pay $400 to make sure it isn't ported to freebsd |
| 08:09.27 | blitzrage | haha |
| 08:09.27 | YoYo^ | and ldap is about as evil as linux |
| 08:09.32 | voidptr | lets convert all those poor bsd folks to linux |
| 08:09.34 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 08:09.38 | miller7 | someone's giving money here? I want some, I want some! |
| 08:09.45 | rollergrrl | ldap = more sales for my company |
| 08:10.20 | atacomm | lol |
| 08:10.20 | YoYo^ | voidptr: if you're ever in VA, let's go head to head on an install/update/configuration |
| 08:10.50 | Cripple | it's all about what you know |
| 08:10.54 | voidptr | sure |
| 08:11.10 | blitzrage | YoYo^: then you don't know linux very well :) |
| 08:11.18 | voidptr | exactly |
| 08:11.27 | YoYo^ | blitz, I've not used much linux in the last 8 years |
| 08:11.31 | miller7 | hehe, morning killings. I love it |
| 08:11.34 | blitzrage | YoYo^: well there you go! |
| 08:11.36 | voidptr | lets also verify common exploitabilities afterwards ok? |
| 08:12.02 | voidptr | i'll even port paxtest to bsd just for that |
| 08:12.04 | voidptr | ;PPPP |
| 08:12.13 | YoYo^ | wtf is paxtest? |
| 08:12.14 | blitzrage | all OS's have exploits |
| 08:12.39 | YoYo^ | blitz, yeah, but some have more than others |
| 08:12.41 | rollergrrl | back to the dork talk we go |
| 08:12.49 | blitzrage | rollergrrl: lol, get used to it :) |
| 08:12.51 | YoYo^ | but we won't mention any names since Bill isn't here to defend himself |
| 08:12.58 | blitzrage | YoYo^: bah! |
| 08:12.58 | YoYo^ | rollergrrl, dork talk? |
| 08:13.03 | YoYo^ | what do you do for a living? |
| 08:13.10 | blitzrage | rollergrrl: do I have to remind you where you are? :) |
| 08:13.12 | rollergrrl | my bike is cooler than yours... it has training wheels! |
| 08:13.13 | voidptr | blitzrage : would be boring if it was all perfect eh? :) |
| 08:13.27 | miller7 | aha, rollergrrl gets into the fight too. All right |
| 08:13.29 | miller7 | go go |
| 08:13.31 | YoYo^ | rollergrrl: I have a trike, so I don't need training wheels! |
| 08:13.36 | blitzrage | voidptr: yah, what the heck would I charge a monthly fee for? :) |
| 08:13.52 | rollergrrl | well I can do wheelies on my bike |
| 08:13.57 | voidptr | blitzrage : yah :P |
| 08:14.00 | blitzrage | rollergrrl: me too, but then I fall down |
| 08:14.15 | rollergrrl | i've been using my bike for 8 years |
| 08:14.18 | blitzrage | miller7: I have my own guns, I don't need yours :) |
| 08:14.34 | miller7 | blitzrage: not anymore. You're dead, if you didn't notice :D |
| 08:14.42 | blitzrage | miller7: nah |
| 08:14.46 | blitzrage | lol |
| 08:14.56 | rollergrrl | YoYo^: i've told the channel like 3 times now |
| 08:14.56 | blitzrage | at least bkw_ went to bed ;) |
| 08:15.09 | miller7 | hey blitzrage, are you neo? |
| 08:15.13 | YoYo^ | roller, too bad I wasn't awake at those times |
| 08:15.24 | miller7 | snif |
| 08:15.27 | rollergrrl | YoYo^: well... then use your imagination |
| 08:15.35 | blitzrage | lol |
| 08:15.42 | voidptr | Suddenly the dungeon collapses... you die. |
| 08:15.44 | blitzrage | rollergrrl: that could be a dangerous suggestion :) |
| 08:15.55 | YoYo^ | well, you mentioned LDAP, so I'm guessing you're a school teacher |
| 08:16.10 | rollergrrl | a naughty school teacher |
| 08:16.10 | YoYo^ | since LDAP is like a waste (similar to ADA) and only used in educational environments? |
| 08:16.14 | blitzrage | lol |
| 08:16.37 | miller7 | Well, LDAP has nice security features such as own change of records |
| 08:17.00 | rollergrrl | do you think i care about why someone wants ldap? |
| 08:17.09 | rollergrrl | the only thing I care about is the money i'm going to make off of it |
| 08:17.12 | YoYo^ | tried at least 3 different sets of directions, and still couldn't get it working |
| 08:17.18 | YoYo^ | so I gave up and stuck with SQL |
| 08:17.36 | miller7 | YoYo^: true, it's a pain the first times |
| 08:17.44 | learath | and the second time |
| 08:17.44 | YoYo^ | miller; hell, so is * |
| 08:17.47 | learath | and the third...... |
| 08:18.06 | Cripple | you mean there's a time when * isn't a pain? |
| 08:18.22 | blitzrage | Cripple: somedays it's not.. others it is :) |
| 08:18.29 | YoYo^ | cripple, hehe... when I set up my home box, * was the least of my problems |
| 08:18.42 | YoYo^ | fucking iptable&chairs was my bitch |
| 08:18.44 | blitzrage | damn this message waiting indicator! |
| 08:18.56 | Cripple | * is tough on those days when you make update, and nothing works anymore. |
| 08:18.57 | sxpert | lol |
| 08:19.01 | rollergrrl | such dorks |
| 08:19.16 | blitzrage | rollergrrl: it gets way worse in here ;) |
| 08:19.46 | rollergrrl | i bet |
| 08:19.54 | voidptr | anyone know of a c-based tool that interacts with the manager interface? |
| 08:19.56 | YoYo^ | rollergrrl, you'd rather save the dork talk for a candle light dinner and talk about love and romance here? |
| 08:20.12 | YoYo^ | astman? |
| 08:20.23 | voidptr | ah |
| 08:20.25 | voidptr | doh :P |
| 08:20.27 | Cripple | asmaster |
| 08:20.29 | rollergrrl | I don't want to talk about who's can kill who.. superman or freebsd |
| 08:20.32 | blitzrage | I once was walking along the beach, and this little shell walked right up to me, and I was like, "ooooo!" and then it bit me, and I was sad. |
| 08:20.44 | rollergrrl | er who |
| 08:20.44 | YoYo^ | frisbee rulez them all |
| 08:20.44 | voidptr | thanx ; |
| 08:21.07 | blitzrage | lol.. superman or freebsd |
| 08:21.13 | blitzrage | obviously superman would win. |
| 08:21.21 | rollergrrl | wait |
| 08:21.34 | rollergrrl | it would be borg or freebsd in this channel |
| 08:21.51 | voidptr | Resistance is futile! |
| 08:22.25 | voidptr | Your PBX will be assimilated by *. |
| 08:22.35 | blitzrage | oh god.. |
| 08:22.35 | Cripple | when I think of rollergrrl, I can't help but think Heather Graham in Boogie Nights. |
| 08:22.47 | voidptr | ..on Linux. |
| 08:22.48 | blitzrage | never saw that movie |
| 08:22.57 | rollergrrl | don't waste your time |
| 08:23.01 | blitzrage | sounds good :) |
| 08:23.36 | Cripple | I didn't say I was fantasizing, just that it makes me think of that... Don't flatter yourself. ;-) |
| 08:23.47 | voidptr | thats what they all say |
| 08:23.51 | voidptr | (deja vu!) |
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| 08:29.16 | blitzrage | how the HELL is it in NL! |
| 08:29.33 | blitzrage | I thought it was being shipped from Toronto |
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| 08:35.07 | rollergrrl | you trike? |
| 08:35.09 | rollergrrl | your |
| 08:35.29 | rpb | JerJer, you around |
| 08:36.22 | rpb | rollergrrl: you all are way too advanced. I'm reduced to using shank''s pony |
| 08:36.48 | rollergrrl | the one with the eyes popped out? |
| 08:37.13 | rpb | After a few too many, that's kinda how I feel. |
| 08:37.36 | voidptr | blitzrage : where can i go and pick it up? |
| 08:37.48 | rpb | Any body familiar with h323 and gnugk? |
| 08:38.16 | voidptr | blitzrage : make sure it doesn't go to belgium... then it will be stuck at customs for a few days... :P |
| 08:38.24 | blitzrage | voidptr: lol |
| 08:38.33 | blitzrage | voidptr: nah... it's coming from Newfoundland I believe |
| 08:38.39 | rpb | Well, I guess 3:30 am isn't exactly the most popular time of the day. |
| 08:38.50 | blitzrage | if it makes it across the ocean.. I will be very disappointed with Canada Post :) |
| 08:39.00 | blitzrage | 3:38am :) |
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| 08:39.31 | blitzrage | how the hell am I still hungry.. I had two sandwiches and a bowl of cereal |
| 08:39.44 | voidptr | ahh |
| 08:39.44 | rpb | RollrGrrl: do you install all the stuff you sell, or do you use contractors? |
| 08:39.49 | voidptr | NL, as in a state |
| 08:39.52 | voidptr | not country ;) |
| 08:39.57 | blitzrage | NL as in a PROVINCE |
| 08:40.10 | voidptr | ah |
| 08:40.11 | voidptr | :P |
| 08:40.12 | voidptr | lol |
| 08:40.13 | rollergrrl | i have tech guys that design and implement |
| 08:40.20 | blitzrage | I don't live in the US, and Canada is not an american state, as much as they think it is :) |
| 08:40.25 | rollergrrl | I dont' install a thing |
| 08:40.30 | voidptr | be glad it isnt |
| 08:40.30 | voidptr | :P |
| 08:40.36 | blitzrage | voidptr: damn right |
| 08:40.56 | voidptr | rollergrrl : me neither but... thats just because i'm lazy... |
| 08:41.06 | Moc | hi all |
| 08:41.19 | Moc | office party is over .. |
| 08:41.20 | rpb | I read through the postings. Just for interests sake, couldn't figure out where you are. |
| 08:41.54 | rollergrrl | voidptr: lol |
| 08:42.33 | sxpert | blitzrage: are you sure canada is not a US state ? |
| 08:42.46 | blitzrage | quite positive |
| 08:43.21 | blitzrage | I'd pretty much live anywhere but the US :) |
| 08:43.41 | Cripon | them's fightin words |
| 08:43.49 | Cripon | cuz that's what we Americans do. |
| 08:43.52 | Moc | Im sure Canada is not in the US... it nice here !!! hehe |
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| 08:45.26 | Moc | Watch Bowling at Columbine and you will understand Im happy to live in Canada |
| 08:45.28 | blitzrage | Cripon: I know :) |
| 08:45.37 | blitzrage | Moc: what state? |
| 08:45.39 | blitzrage | :) |
| 08:45.55 | blitzrage | Moc: which province / territory you in? |
| 08:46.00 | Moc | quebec |
| 08:46.09 | blitzrage | Moc: hehehe :) |
| 08:46.16 | blitzrage | Montreal? |
| 08:46.24 | Moc | yep |
| 08:47.48 | rollergrrl | Watch Bowling for Columbine and you'll get a load of the most awfull liberal bullshit that'll last you centuries. |
| 08:48.10 | Chilled | how can i save return value given by Dial App in extensions.conf?? |
| 08:49.28 | Cripon | rollerrepublican: I'm a liberal and I thought that movie was total bullshit. |
| 08:49.32 | Moc | Look I know ppl in the states and damn Im so happy to be here !!! |
| 08:49.50 | rollergrrl | I just don't like Michael Moore |
| 08:49.56 | rollergrrl | nothing against liberals really |
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| 08:51.06 | Cripon | There are better places to live than the United States? Where and why? Can't be, "Just because I live here" cuz I'd claim that. |
| 08:51.33 | voidptr | holland |
| 08:51.35 | voidptr | ! |
| 08:51.35 | voidptr | :P |
| 08:51.38 | rollergrrl | Antartica is a nice place to live |
| 08:51.40 | argos | Cripon: depends - continental US? Hawaii's nice.. :) |
| 08:51.49 | rollergrrl | lots of land to yourself there |
| 08:52.07 | sxpert | rollergrrl: freezing cold thouhg |
| 08:52.07 | coppice_ | Cripon: the US is a nice place to visit. I've had a good time exploring Arizona, Texas and some other places. Living there is another matter. It seems so heartless |
| 08:52.18 | voidptr | i've got a piece of ice from antartica in the fridge |
| 08:52.23 | Cripon | rollerreagan: The aurora would keep me up at night |
| 08:52.27 | Moc | look there is a few big problem in the states ... first is the us politic and way to think witch is kind of bad |
| 08:52.29 | Chilled | hey Dont mess this channel wid sOcial,Political and ur Personal issues |
| 08:52.44 | rollergrrl | Cripon: you're silly |
| 08:52.46 | argos | coppice_: guess you missed Cleveland.. :) |
| 08:53.02 | Cripon | :) |
| 08:53.13 | rollergrrl | ;) |
| 08:53.19 | blitzrage | I'm going to bed for real this time |
| 08:53.23 | Cripon | night |
| 08:53.24 | rollergrrl | hehe night |
| 08:53.25 | argos | cya |
| 08:53.44 | Mike | blitzrage: you never dso |
| 08:53.54 | voidptr | gonna take a shower and start up the coding facility |
| 08:53.55 | argos | does a reasonable solution exist to the "route FWD calls through Ast behind NAT" problem yet? |
| 08:53.55 | blitzrage | Mike: yah, what's the point of sleep :) |
| 08:54.05 | Mike | :) |
| 08:54.06 | blitzrage | argos: yes |
| 08:54.18 | blitzrage | argos: bugs.digium.com bug #104 |
| 08:54.20 | Mike | blitzrage: what would you buy if you had the money |
| 08:54.28 | blitzrage | Mike: how much money |
| 08:54.30 | Mike | blitzrage: a 7960 a sipura2000 or wisip |
| 08:54.34 | Mike | blitzrage: one of those |
| 08:54.36 | blitzrage | 7960 |
| 08:54.39 | Mike | blitzrage: why? |
| 08:54.41 | argos | blitzrage: hmm - have that patch installed - will continue digging. tnx |
| 08:54.41 | Chilled | Is there any way besides AGI to recieve values return by Apps in extensions.conf |
| 08:54.55 | blitzrage | argos: did you include the configuration in sip.conf ? |
| 08:54.59 | Mike | i never seen a 7960 |
| 08:55.00 | Mike | on person |
| 08:55.12 | blitzrage | Mike: haven't heard good things about the wisip, never used a sipura2000 :) |
| 08:55.20 | blitzrage | thus, we are left with the 7960 :) |
| 08:55.27 | blitzrage | Mike: they rock |
| 08:55.30 | blitzrage | wish I had one |
| 08:55.31 | Mike | why? |
| 08:55.38 | voidptr | wisip was tested by jtodd iirc. |
| 08:55.40 | Mike | how much is a 7960? |
| 08:55.40 | voidptr | it was good |
| 08:55.46 | Mike | im thinking on my xmas present |
| 08:55.51 | blitzrage | no idea, thought you had this all figured out :) |
| 08:56.00 | argos | blitzrage: sorta... putting it together from mailing list searches, but it's very possible i'm missing something dumb... |
| 08:56.00 | Mike | im not sure if going for sipura2000 7960 or wisip |
| 08:56.00 | voidptr | blitzrage : go away! |
| 08:56.01 | voidptr | :D |
| 08:56.04 | blitzrage | I wouldn't mind a wisip if I had the cash, really, I shouldn't comment :) |
| 08:56.22 | blitzrage | argos: also depends the version you get for which config options you use |
| 08:56.24 | Chilled | Any Clues Sir?? Is there any way besides AGI to recieve values return by Apps in extensions.conf?? |
| 08:56.29 | blitzrage | argos: it should be quite simple :) |
| 08:56.29 | Mike | blitzrage: its for my xmas gift |
| 08:56.36 | blitzrage | ok ok ok.... I'm GONE! |
| 08:56.43 | Mike | blitzrage: i have to make a chooise before i spend the money and i have to do it wisely |
| 08:56.45 | argos | yea - need another beer or so to figure it out. |
| 08:56.46 | argos | :) |
| 08:57.44 | argos | Mike: paid $470 for mine about a month ago through a "real" cisco dealer... you can find them for a lot less... |
| 08:58.11 | Cripon | Mike: kram lent me a 7960 last week and it's very nice |
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| 08:58.45 | Mike | how much its a 7960? |
| 08:58.50 | Mike | and why is it so nice? |
| 08:59.39 | Cripon | I have no idea on the cost, it's so nice because of thhe quality and the ease of configuration |
| 08:59.52 | argos | Mike: prob between $300-400 new if you look around |
| 08:59.54 | Cripon | and it has a nice, big display |
| 09:00.30 | argos | lotsa features, well-built, good compatability, "It's Cisco", and hey - Hollywood likes them... |
| 09:00.56 | Moc | got a question... is there a Docs about some reference about a good way to setup a pbx into an organisation |
| 09:01.02 | Moc | for extension |
| 09:01.06 | Moc | multi office .. and all that .. |
| 09:01.20 | Mike | argos: well GS has the same features |
| 09:01.31 | Mike | argos: i guess it miss the big nice display and soft keys |
| 09:01.42 | argos | Mike: it's an ego thing... :) |
| 09:01.45 | sousou | Any testers interested in trying out a little windows ap that I've done that does callerid balloon popups for Windows XP. It works for me but is probably full of bugs! |
| 09:01.52 | Mike | argos: but its main feature its 70bucks for it |
| 09:01.58 | argos | true.. |
| 09:02.02 | Cripon | soudsou: I will |
| 09:02.12 | Cripon | sousou: does it work with smbwall or something? |
| 09:02.23 | Mike | plus you get a very nice support from GS team |
| 09:02.24 | sousou | It's a .Net Framework app |
| 09:02.31 | sousou | Will require the runtime |
| 09:02.47 | sousou | ?? smbwall ?? |
| 09:03.04 | rollergrrl | sousou: nihongo ga wakarimasu ka? |
| 09:03.12 | Moc | GS support is good ? |
| 09:03.15 | Chilled | Any Ans 4 me :(???Is there any way besides AGI to recieve values return by Apps in extensions.conf?? |
| 09:03.23 | Cripon | GS guys are on top of the game |
| 09:03.28 | Cripon | they're trying very hard |
| 09:03.40 | sousou | Cripon - do you want the source as well or just binaries? |
| 09:03.51 | Cripon | doesn't matter to me |
| 09:03.55 | Moc | hope the BT101 is good .. |
| 09:03.56 | Mike | Moc: EXCELENT |
| 09:03.59 | sousou | Source is a Visual Studio.Net 2003 project and requires that to edit |
| 09:04.21 | Cripon | I have vs.net, but just send me the binaries |
| 09:04.22 | Mike | Moc: really good good support from then email them or call em they always help you out in a very nice way |
| 09:04.36 | Cripon | christian@yottadot.org |
| 09:04.47 | Moc | good.. |
| 09:05.04 | Mike | Moc: i dont like licking no bodys balls but GS deservs it |
| 09:07.15 | Cripon | argos: send that firmware my way ;-) |
| 09:08.57 | argos | Cripon: naughty.. |
| 09:08.57 | argos | :) |
| 09:11.41 | Moc | hehe allright .. |
| 09:11.49 | Moc | can't wait to get it |
| 09:11.50 | zono | Hi I configure Oh323 and it working properli but I receive Warning |
| 09:12.15 | zono | WARNING[8194]: File asterisk.c, Line 234 (listener): Select retured error: Interrupted |
| 09:12.16 | zono | system call |
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| 09:12.27 | zono | How I will solve this problem ? |
| 09:12.29 | TestMasTer | anyone around tonight |
| 09:12.44 | rollergrrl | me |
| 09:12.48 | rollergrrl | but you don't wanna talk to me tonight |
| 09:12.57 | Cripon | nobody in here but us chickens.. bock bock biggock |
| 09:12.57 | rollergrrl | i'm miss meanie tonight |
| 09:13.17 | TestMasTer | oh i don`t don`t mind miss meanie :-) |
| 09:14.02 | TestMasTer | anyone here using Shitty Grandstream, And know how to get the pos to use the tftp server? |
| 09:15.44 | Moc | damn is it shitty ? |
| 09:15.55 | Moc | or not .. guys fix your mind |
| 09:16.14 | TestMasTer | Moc, Sorry i`ve been having bad luck with it to night |
| 09:16.30 | Moc | ha hehe |
| 09:17.27 | TestMasTer | Moc, you know anything about grandstream phones |
| 09:18.22 | Moc | TestMasTer: Nope, waiting for mine to get here hehe |
| 09:19.16 | TestMasTer | oh ok |
| 09:20.07 | Moc | should get it Monday |
| 09:21.03 | TestMasTer | Oh, They aint bad when they are working right lol |
| 09:21.33 | Moc | better than a softphone ? |
| 09:21.47 | argos | anything worse than a softphone? |
| 09:21.49 | argos | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.55 | Moc | hehe good then hehe |
| 09:22.17 | Moc | Damn is there a PBX Setup Guide ? for extention number setup.. |
| 09:22.38 | argos | Moc: more details... what are you trying to do? |
| 09:22.58 | TestMasTer | Moc, Ya i think so |
| 09:23.01 | TestMasTer | hey argos |
| 09:23.04 | Moc | Well, What extention should I use for voicemail.. |
| 09:23.10 | argos | TestMasTer: greetings... |
| 09:23.15 | Moc | accessing other office system |
| 09:23.25 | TestMasTer | hows it going tonight |
| 09:23.59 | argos | busy, busy... |
| 09:24.09 | Moc | I know one big problem is the DID numbers |
| 09:24.36 | Moc | witch mean any 4 digit could be a DID i get from TelCo |
| 09:25.11 | Moc | But is there a guide ? |
| 09:25.25 | Moc | or more a sugestion for pbx setup |
| 09:25.32 | zono | Someone use H323 ? |
| 09:26.17 | TestMasTer | argos, Do you know anything about Grandstream phones |
| 09:26.29 | TestMasTer | If so do you know where i can get a guide to update via TFTP? |
| 09:26.33 | argos | TestMasTer: not really.. |
| 09:26.46 | TestMasTer | ok thanx I will keep searching |
| 09:31.03 | miller7 | TestMasTer: why do you need to update via tftp? |
| 09:32.12 | TestMasTer | miller7, is there any other way i can update the phones? |
| 09:32.18 | miller7 | sure |
| 09:32.19 | miller7 | wait |
| 09:33.17 | miller7 | you have to understand that the release versions are only available on their site |
| 09:33.23 | miller7 | but beta versions are here: |
| 09:33.31 | miller7 | http://www.grandstream.com/TEMP/FIRMWARE/ |
| 09:33.44 | miller7 | I suggest you search the * mailing list before updating to beta firmware |
| 09:33.51 | miller7 | ie know what you are doing |
| 09:34.19 | miller7 | latest firmware is 2 days old |
| 09:34.35 | TestMasTer | miller7, ok thanx for the information |
| 09:34.47 | miller7 | no prob |
| 09:35.09 | Moc | ha I hate that .. |
| 09:35.52 | TestMasTer | miller7, what Version of the firmware are you running? |
| 09:35.57 | argos | better living through chemistry... |
| 09:37.42 | miller7 | TestMasTer: The stable one, I don't need to check (or have time to debug) new things |
| 09:37.49 | miller7 | playing with * is enough for me :) |
| 09:38.21 | miller7 | argos: well done man! |
| 09:38.32 | miller7 | wanna play football? ;) |
| 09:38.40 | TestMasTer | lol i`m just trying to make sure i`m updated, to where i can be, With it still be stable |
| 09:38.52 | miller7 | TestMasTer: then leave your phone as is :) |
| 09:38.56 | argos | hehe - gotta love the fact that my wife works for my doctor.. :) |
| 09:39.11 | argos | makes getting "fixed" much easier |
| 09:39.17 | miller7 | hehe |
| 09:39.43 | TestMasTer | miller7, ok thanx, For the info, hey did you ever get the message flash or some kind of indacator, working tell you. you have a message? |
| 09:44.04 | miller7 | TestMasTer: well, I never tried to be honest with you |
| 09:44.26 | miller7 | supposedly it works fine (message button and indicator) |
| 09:44.41 | miller7 | I think would be best for you to ask the * mailing list |
| 09:44.42 | TestMasTer | Message button i can`t get to work |
| 09:44.50 | TestMasTer | ya i will try that |
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| 09:59.48 | voidptr | mmmmkay. |
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| 10:45.44 | mack_jpn | hi. does anyone knows grandstream's config format for tftp? |
| 10:48.39 | rpb | argos may need a chiropractor |
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| 11:00.01 | mack_jpn | my grandstream phone's web administration page is somesthing stange... when i login. but no response from grandstream.... uhm.... |
| 11:00.27 | miller7 | what does it show? |
| 11:00.31 | miller7 | naked girls? |
| 11:00.33 | miller7 | :) |
| 11:01.48 | mack_jpn | i can get 'Welcome to Grandstream IP Phone' result. and type 'admin' and push login. but no response more... ;-( |
| 11:02.21 | miller7 | oh |
| 11:03.18 | mack_jpn | I have 8 phones. a couple of phones are same result.uhm... |
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| 11:06.20 | miller7 | all with same firmware? |
| 11:06.55 | mack_jpn | Now I'm trying b13p4.30 |
| 11:07.06 | miller7 | I see |
| 11:09.37 | mack_jpn | grandtream had no function...hangupped... ;-( |
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| 11:21.07 | suma | hi gm |
| 11:38.48 | JerJer | mmm naked girls |
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| 12:00.01 | rpb | Do we have an ETA on the IAXy yet? |
| 12:00.31 | JerJer | Coming Soon(tm) |
| 12:00.40 | voidptr | :) |
| 12:03.08 | rpb | JerJer: I sent a message to the list regarding 3 chan_h323 & gnugk items I've encountered. Are they legitimate or I'm I missing something? |
| 12:04.09 | killerbee | JerJer I did not realize that Ur up... |
| 12:04.28 | killerbee | I just read that nufone will port numbers? |
| 12:06.32 | JerJer | rpb: I haven't kept up with the mailing list in the last week, too busy |
| 12:07.36 | rpb | ok, I'm on my way out, have a good weekend |
| 12:08.07 | JerJer | exten => 1234,1,Dial,H323/some_h323_id |
| 12:08.12 | JerJer | whats so difficult? |
| 12:08.59 | rpb | I figured that bit out. It is the stuff in the second message. |
| 12:10.57 | JerJer | like? |
| 12:11.33 | rpb | 1) if I do a reload in *, chan_h323 loses its registration with gnugk, and will no longer pass calls to it. A second reload will crash *. Is this supposed to be? |
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| 12:19.55 | voidptr | moo. |
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| 12:20.41 | voidptr | horrible weather again |
| 12:20.48 | miller7 | it's sun out here :) |
| 12:21.07 | voidptr | :S |
| 12:21.46 | miller7 | hm... is there a doc/site/anything where I can find the numbers length of each country (for example UK landine: 10 digits, cellular 11) or similar? |
| 12:21.57 | miller7 | yep, it's a calling card application :P |
| 12:22.50 | rpb | You'll find that dialling plans may even vary within a country, iirc |
| 12:23.07 | miller7 | Yes, I know |
| 12:23.21 | miller7 | that's why I am asking if there is such info at least for major countries |
| 12:23.27 | miller7 | for a first check perhaps |
| 12:24.57 | JerJer | rpb: sounds like its time to scrap h.323 |
| 12:25.09 | JerJer | miller7: not gonna happen |
| 12:25.19 | JerJer | and you don't want to rate call that way either |
| 12:25.53 | JerJer | rpb: so why do you think u need a gatekeeper? |
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| 12:26.02 | rpb | JerJer: After even more playing around, I figured I can scrap the gnugk thing. |
| 12:26.17 | JerJer | why not H.323 all together? |
| 12:27.01 | rpb | A possible cust has h.323 and wanted to interact. They don't have *. I was trying to figure out how to integrate everything together. I figured out how to make it work with chan_h323 by itself. |
| 12:27.11 | JerJer | give them asterisk |
| 12:27.15 | miller7 | JerJer: how to rate the call then? |
| 12:27.24 | JerJer | ebay the H.323 crap they bought |
| 12:27.29 | JerJer | miller7: not that way |
| 12:27.38 | JerJer | and that's proprietary info |
| 12:28.27 | miller7 | JerJer: I like your way :) |
| 12:28.53 | JerJer | if your rating calls, that means your billing customers and if your billing customers you are getting paid |
| 12:28.56 | rpb | If life was only so easy. :-S |
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| 12:29.04 | JerJer | I am not about to give that information away without cost |
| 12:29.34 | JerJer | rpb: they made a bad business decision going with a overblown, dying protocol...the time is now to correct that descion and move on |
| 12:30.32 | JerJer | rpb: and your not running the latest cvs code |
| 12:30.41 | rpb | Good thought. I'll push for improvement. |
| 12:31.13 | miller7 | JerJer: I have no objection to be paid to receive this information from you :P |
| 12:31.18 | rpb | It is a couple weeks old. You've fixed a few things in the mean time? |
| 12:31.28 | JerJer | um yes |
| 12:31.34 | JerJer | asterisk is a moving target |
| 12:31.45 | rpb | Yep. |
| 12:34.27 | JerJer | miller7: the problem is my operation here is not geared to support the rating engine I have written |
| 12:34.39 | JerJer | at least in its present form |
| 12:34.58 | JerJer | hence why I have not started publicly licensing my rating engine |
| 12:35.21 | miller7 | JerJer: I am not familiar with your rating engine or your operations. I just saw you said "that's not the right way" and innocently asked what is the right one. I withdraw my question, I am not interested to know. |
| 12:35.34 | JerJer | good |
| 12:36.04 | carrar | I WANNA KNOW!! |
| 12:36.08 | carrar | TELL ME ALL! |
| 12:36.14 | carrar | heh |
| 12:40.01 | JerJer | what's my motivation to give it to you? |
| 12:40.11 | voidptr | xmas |
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| 12:40.13 | voidptr | :P |
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| 12:44.31 | JerJer | usually one doesn't give a christmas present that is directly going to generate revenue for their company |
| 12:45.45 | voidptr | :o) |
| 12:46.07 | carrar | boy, but what a nice Christmas that would be |
| 12:46.12 | killerbee | JerJer send me money for xmas.... |
| 12:47.12 | miller7 | carrar: nice Christmas gift is JerJer's "proprietary idea" about how a rating engine should work? :D |
| 12:47.24 | miller7 | at least ask for Pamela Anderson or something.... |
| 12:48.25 | killerbee | JerJer R U affiliated with nufone? |
| 12:49.05 | JerJer | not should work, I have one that we've been using since day one of Nufone, which is mine, yes |
| 12:52.29 | killerbee | mmmmm chalize theron |
| 12:53.11 | miller7 | one charlize theron coming uuuuuuuup |
| 12:54.50 | killerbee | JerJer I just read on dslreports that nufone will port phone #'s .. can you confirm or deny? |
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| 12:57.24 | JerJer | we can port numbers, sure |
| 12:57.34 | JerJer | we are part of a CLEC |
| 12:57.58 | JerJer | and who was talking about us on dslreports? |
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| 13:18.49 | Jim1 | Hello. |
| 13:18.52 | dimmik | is anyone using a handytone 286? |
| 13:19.06 | Jim1 | I need assistance with two features.. 1 MeetMe |
| 13:19.19 | JerJer | Jim1: it helps if u ask a specific question |
| 13:19.53 | Jim1 | JerJer: Will do.. brb |
| 13:20.10 | JerJer | and remember MeetMe is a confernce bridge, nothing more |
| 13:20.16 | Jim1 | I know that... |
| 13:20.23 | Jim1 | I get the following error doing this: |
| 13:20.27 | Jim1 | [root@ns1 asterisk]# modprobe ztdummy |
| 13:20.36 | Jim1 | modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 13:20.41 | Jim1 | modprobe: Can't locate module ztdummy |
| 13:20.52 | JerJer | have u uncommented it ? |
| 13:21.06 | Jim1 | yes |
| 13:21.23 | Jim1 | can't located the ztdummy.o file anywhere. |
| 13:21.33 | JerJer | then its not compiled |
| 13:21.33 | dimmik | JerJer> Can meetme announce the incoming caller? |
| 13:21.33 | Jim1 | I don't think during the make install process it was installed |
| 13:21.41 | JerJer | dimmik: sure |
| 13:21.56 | JerJer | Jim1: then it didn't get uncommented in the Makefile |
| 13:22.06 | dimmik | JerJer> I only get a tone when someone join's in |
| 13:22.15 | Jim1 | I went to line 90 and took the # from in front of ZTDUMMY |
| 13:22.21 | JerJer | that's the announcement |
| 13:22.34 | JerJer | Jim1: and ran make install again ? |
| 13:22.38 | Jim1 | yes |
| 13:22.43 | Jim1 | in the zaptel dir |
| 13:22.45 | JerJer | and u saw the ztdummy compiie line go by? |
| 13:22.49 | JerJer | without error |
| 13:22.53 | dimmik | JerJer> What about calledid? |
| 13:23.13 | dimmik | caller id |
| 13:23.38 | JerJer | vi apps/app_meetme.c |
| 13:23.41 | JerJer | hack away |
| 13:23.50 | JerJer | find the enter tone |
| 13:23.55 | JerJer | then submit a diff |
| 13:24.12 | JerJer | make sure to make prompting a caller*id an option |
| 13:24.33 | dimmik | I think I should remember my c skills :) |
| 13:24.33 | Jim1 | first line :MODULES=zaptel.o tor2.o torisa.o wcusb.o wcfxo.o wcfxs.o \ |
| 13:24.45 | Jim1 | ztdynamic.o ztd-eth.o wct1xxp.o wct4xxp.o ztdummy.o |
| 13:24.51 | Jim1 | that is the second line of around line 90 |
| 13:25.31 | dimmik | is there a ztdummy.o after compiling? |
| 13:26.45 | Jim1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.05 | dimmik | what distro? |
| 13:27.19 | Jim1 | make: *** [zaptel.o] Error 1 |
| 13:27.22 | JerJer | u need kernel-source installed |
| 13:27.33 | JerJer | and run a make dep |
| 13:27.49 | Jim1 | how do I do that? can you point me in the right direction for that? |
| 13:27.55 | Jim1 | I am a bit of a novice in linux |
| 13:27.56 | dimmik | what distro? |
| 13:28.01 | JerJer | answer dimmik's question |
| 13:28.24 | Jim1 | no |
| 13:28.52 | dimmik | Jim: what linux r u running? |
| 13:28.53 | Jim1 | There is no ztdummy.o after compiling |
| 13:28.55 | Jim1 | 7.2 |
| 13:28.58 | Jim1 | redhat |
| 13:29.10 | JerJer | rpm -ivh kernel-source.some.version.number.goes.here |
| 13:29.11 | dimmik | rpm -Uvh kernel-source* |
| 13:29.17 | JerJer | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 13:29.17 | *** kick/#asterisk [JerJer!~brian@ns.bkw.org] by bkw_ (autokick for CAPS LOCK) |
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| 13:29.22 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@pppoe1333.grp.centurytel.net) |
| 13:29.26 | JerJer | -U is evil |
| 13:29.33 | suma | gm JerJer |
| 13:29.41 | dimmik | :) |
| 13:29.49 | JerJer | rpm -ivh |
| 13:29.52 | Jim1 | ok... skip the meet me |
| 13:30.15 | JerJer | then manually move to the new kernel |
| 13:30.18 | Jim1 | how about setting up call logs. to keep track of how many incoming calls come in |
| 13:30.24 | JerJer | you will blow that system up RIGHT NOW |
| 13:30.49 | JerJer | see /var/log/asterisk/ |
| 13:31.00 | scott | blow up a system! |
| 13:32.53 | dimmik | JerJer: I get "No ISA Tormenda card" on my console. I don't have a zaptel interface. Should I only leave ztdummy and coment all others in the make file? |
| 13:33.07 | JerJer | ignore that meesage |
| 13:33.18 | JerJer | or remove the relevant line from your modules.conf |
| 13:33.30 | dimmik | k (what message) :) |
| 13:33.41 | JerJer | eggactly |
| 13:34.12 | JerJer | brb gota reboot this whore |
| 13:36.06 | Jim1 | in the call log it only shows the last function that the caller did.. how do I keep track of each move the user makes |
| 13:37.15 | dimmik | what moves? |
| 13:38.00 | Jim1 | if a caller gets in.. they press 1 to listen to weather, then they are returned to the main menu after the message, then press 2 to listen to news. the only thing I see on the log after they listen to news is that they listened to news.. it dosn't show their first move |
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| 13:39.07 | Jim1 | in the call log it only shows the last function that the caller did.. how do I keep track of each move the user makes |
| 13:39.12 | Jim1 | if a caller gets in.. they press 1 to listen to weather, then they are returned to the main menu after the message, then press 2 to listen to news. the only thing I see on the log after they listen to news is that they listened to news.. it dosn't show their first move |
| 13:39.20 | Jim1 | (repeat for jerjer to read) |
| 13:39.40 | JerJer | those are application details, not call details |
| 13:40.01 | Jim1 | what file do I look in to application details? |
| 13:40.15 | JerJer | there is none |
| 13:40.22 | JerJer | you have to do that yourself |
| 13:40.24 | Jim1 | hmm... ok |
| 13:40.28 | dimmik | there is c++ |
| 13:40.28 | Jim1 | that sucks |
| 13:40.54 | JerJer | C |
| 13:40.54 | Jim1 | oh well.... for the last week I have spent over 80 hours working on this.... its like a drug, addicting. |
| 13:41.08 | dimmik | maybe a script with custom logging |
| 13:41.25 | JerJer | i've spent the entire last year of my life working on asterisk |
| 13:41.36 | scott | JerJer: im sorry, that sucks |
| 13:41.41 | Jim1 | darn |
| 13:41.46 | coppice_ | JerJer: what? no sleep? :-) |
| 13:41.54 | JerJer | sleep? |
| 13:41.54 | Jim1 | Anyone put together a dating extensions.conf yet? |
| 13:42.00 | JerJer | this is new to me, please explain :) |
| 13:42.01 | Jim1 | or an information hotline allication? |
| 13:42.16 | JerJer | dating ? |
| 13:42.38 | JerJer | vi /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf add your lines |
| 13:42.40 | JerJer | done |
| 13:43.11 | Jim1 | yes, setup a date line service |
| 13:43.17 | dimmik | but I think Jim want's also to be able to charge |
| 13:43.27 | dimmik | right? |
| 13:43.54 | Jim1 | nope.. advertisment supported |
| 13:44.13 | JerJer | ugggg |
| 13:44.15 | JerJer | good luck |
| 13:45.17 | coppice_ | Jim1: condom ads? :-) |
| 13:45.28 | Jim1 | could be. |
| 13:45.35 | Jim1 | or dating locations.. movies, ect.. |
| 13:46.10 | dimmik | I am geting this when I dial from sip --> capi with yesterday's CVS: |
| 13:46.14 | dimmik | WARNING[1251156800]: File rtp.c, Line 856 (ast_rtp_senddigit): Don't know how to represent 'f' |
| 13:46.21 | dimmik | any Ideas why? |
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| 13:46.45 | JerJer | flash |
| 13:46.57 | JerJer | i think its something new |
| 13:47.02 | Jim1 | does anyone know where I can pick up some DID lines through sip? |
| 13:47.31 | Jim1 | I know of http://connect.voicepulse.com/ but that is it. |
| 13:47.39 | Jim1 | maybe any free DID's? |
| 13:47.53 | JerJer | free |
| 13:48.02 | Jim1 | yes, like IPKALL.COM. |
| 13:48.05 | JerJer | nothing in this world is 'without cost' |
| 13:48.10 | Jim1 | but you have to port it through to FWD |
| 13:48.17 | Jim1 | they are always running out of numbers |
| 13:48.23 | JerJer | what a kludge |
| 13:48.23 | miller7 | Jim1: If you want a UK number then it's possible to be for free |
| 13:48.36 | ciego34 | good news from FWD this morning, is time to test my gear |
| 13:48.39 | Jim1 | I don't want UK numbers.. US or CANADA numbers |
| 13:48.40 | JerJer | miller7: i can do UK numbers myself, no thanks |
| 13:48.52 | miller7 | JerJer: I didn't reply to you |
| 13:49.15 | JerJer | netither does Jim1 |
| 13:49.20 | ciego34 | i have spain |
| 13:49.20 | ciego34 | madrid |
| 13:49.20 | ciego34 | local |
| 13:50.10 | ciego34 | movistar, amena, vodafone |
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| 13:55.31 | new_user | I just received my developer kit and am trying to get things working in very basic form |
| 13:55.45 | new_user | i have the cards working i think, i get a dial tone when i pick up |
| 13:55.54 | new_user | but any extension i dial i get a fast busy signal |
| 13:56.24 | new_user | i used the sample files from http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ |
| 13:59.21 | JerJer | then your not using the right context |
| 13:59.24 | JerJer | or dialing the right number |
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| 14:06.33 | montag | a tips for DISA service, how, when entered in a disa context, dial a number without wait for digittimeout ??? |
| 14:07.05 | JerJer | the question is, do you really need DISA? |
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| 14:09.44 | montag | i want to call in via iSDN my ASTERISK pabx, then digit my disa password follower by #, then dial via asterisk with voicepulse or another VoIP service.... |
| 14:09.50 | montag | another solution ??? |
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| 14:10.46 | lele | montag: can't you verify the callerid? |
| 14:12.00 | JerJer | AGI is a whole lot more flexable |
| 14:12.07 | JerJer | lele: callerid can be spoofed |
| 14:12.41 | lele | JerJer: not here |
| 14:13.03 | lele | JerJer: in it the callerid over isdn is always screened |
| 14:13.14 | montag | lele: yes? |
| 14:13.14 | lele | JerJer: in Italy i mean |
| 14:13.22 | JerJer | lol ok |
| 14:13.32 | JerJer | if u say so :) |
| 14:14.08 | JerJer | I still could call his number using any caller*id I want |
| 14:14.24 | JerJer | thus gain access to any caller*id authenticated systems |
| 14:14.36 | dimmik | how? |
| 14:14.47 | montag | i know that an AGI script will be more flexibile. |
| 14:14.50 | JerJer | i am a telco |
| 14:15.34 | dimmik | any you can setup an isdn call using any called id you want? |
| 14:15.51 | montag | but the problem is that asterisk wait a digittimeout when read digit to call from dtmf.....it's possibile to avoid this beahviour ? |
| 14:15.58 | lele | JerJer: mmh you want your license rrevoked in no time? :) |
| 14:16.09 | JerJer | license? |
| 14:16.16 | JerJer | ROTFL |
| 14:16.25 | JerJer | we don't need no stinking license |
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| 14:20.04 | lele | JerJer: can you call me with an arbitrary cli to verify that? i'm not answering just reading the setup |
| 14:20.24 | dimmik | how can * be interfaced with GSM? |
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| 14:20.33 | coppice_ | lele: this is the true meaning of sourceforge! :-) |
| 14:21.00 | JerJer | lele: give me a number |
| 14:21.20 | montag | dimmik: VoicePulse like services ??? |
| 14:22.03 | dimmik | montag: no, gsm mobile |
| 14:23.30 | dimmik | any ideas? fxo --> gsm modem ? |
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| 14:33.22 | suma | JerJer: is there is any free enum server for linux to download ? |
| 14:34.15 | new_user | context=toll-access, is that right? |
| 14:36.05 | miller7 | what's the normal format of a callerid? country code + number? like 44 20 xxxxxx? |
| 14:36.14 | miller7 | I mean in setcallerid |
| 14:37.07 | miller7 | dimmik: there are some GSM gateways that are mobile phones that you can connect to analog or ISDN |
| 14:37.25 | miller7 | sim cards are put into these gateways I mean |
| 14:38.32 | dimmik | miller7: using what inteface to * ? |
| 14:39.06 | miller7 | well, you have to connect it to just a port and dial out as normal |
| 14:39.18 | miller7 | instead of the co you call through GSM gateway |
| 14:39.25 | miller7 | asterisk does not see it |
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| 14:39.31 | miller7 | does not even care about it :) |
| 14:39.44 | dimmik | miller7: fx0 ? |
| 14:40.28 | miller7 | well, I am not sure but I guess that depending on the GSM gateway you can use it as FXS or FXO |
| 14:40.37 | dimmik | miller7: I want it to go via * (voip clients) |
| 14:41.03 | miller7 | dimmik, it's best to describe the scenario. I thought you wanted * to call via your GSM carrier |
| 14:42.24 | dimmik | miller7: The senario is: sip--->*--->(?)--->GSM-->mobile |
| 14:42.44 | miller7 | :) |
| 14:43.06 | dimmik | miller7: Instead if sip-->*-->isdn-->GSM--->mobile |
| 14:43.17 | miller7 | I see |
| 14:43.35 | dimmik | miller7: less euros :)) |
| 14:43.42 | miller7 | hehe ok |
| 14:44.28 | miller7 | do you plan on doing lots of traffic? lots of calls? |
| 14:44.39 | dimmik | but the point is that if I use fx0 on * (x100p), I only get 1 port/pci |
| 14:44.56 | dimmik | say 4 |
| 14:44.57 | doughecka | hmm, RH9, or redhat enterprise 3.0? |
| 14:45.07 | miller7 | RHE 3 :) |
| 14:45.12 | doughecka | bah |
| 14:45.15 | doughecka | does it work right? |
| 14:45.20 | dimmik | doughecka> RH9 = no updates |
| 14:45.26 | doughecka | eh |
| 14:45.27 | doughecka | true |
| 14:45.28 | miller7 | I am pretty sure it works better than RH9 :) |
| 14:45.30 | suma | can anyone plese tell me where can i get enum server for linux to use with asterisk ? |
| 14:45.48 | doughecka | has anyone run asterisk with RHE 3? |
| 14:45.49 | JerJer | no such beast |
| 14:45.56 | JerJer | (suma) |
| 14:46.13 | suma | JerJer: how you are running a server with you then ? |
| 14:46.30 | dimmik | it there a card that provides 4 fx0? |
| 14:46.34 | suma | JerJer: you developed or bought ? |
| 14:46.40 | miller7 | dimmik: for ISDN yes |
| 14:46.50 | many | wth is an enum server? |
| 14:47.00 | JerJer | many: no such thing |
| 14:47.00 | miller7 | dimmik: for PSTN I think not |
| 14:47.14 | miller7 | dimmik: what OS you run? |
| 14:47.24 | dimmik | miller7: RH9 :( |
| 14:47.29 | miller7 | oh |
| 14:47.46 | dimmik | miller7: bad choice :) |
| 14:47.46 | doughecka | heh |
| 14:47.52 | miller7 | Yeah |
| 14:47.54 | doughecka | https://www.servermatrix.com/solutions/celeron_server.html# |
| 14:48.02 | doughecka | JerJer: hey, can you beat that price? |
| 14:48.03 | doughecka | :) |
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| 14:48.29 | dimmik | will "upgrade" to debian |
| 14:49.00 | miller7 | dimmik: are you considering * as a PBX or for GSM calls only? |
| 14:49.36 | dimmik | miller7: No, both pstn (through capi) and GSM |
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| 14:50.04 | miller7 | so used as a least costing router |
| 14:50.10 | miller7 | not a bad idea |
| 14:50.50 | doughecka | JerJer: why? |
| 14:50.52 | JerJer | doughecka: you can transfer only one gigabyte of data per month for $79 |
| 14:51.10 | doughecka | 1000 GB Bandwidth |
| 14:51.12 | doughecka | :/ |
| 14:51.16 | JerJer | exactly |
| 14:51.20 | dimmik | miller7: I am full of nice ideas :)) |
| 14:51.21 | JerJer | GigaByte |
| 14:51.50 | JerJer | like 2 cd's worth of information |
| 14:51.51 | doughecka | thats 1 terabyte |
| 14:52.00 | JerJer | ahh |
| 14:52.04 | JerJer | its late |
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| 14:52.06 | doughecka | ~whaleslap JerJer |
| 14:52.09 | | ACTION slaps JerJer upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 14:52.09 | miller7 | hehe |
| 14:52.11 | JerJer | its still a joke |
| 14:52.14 | doughecka | haahah |
| 14:52.18 | Pj_ | Nice whale slapping |
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| 14:52.19 | miller7 | but it says 10Mbps port :P |
| 14:52.19 | doughecka | I was worried |
| 14:52.25 | miller7 | probably hub? hehe |
| 14:52.29 | doughecka | lol |
| 14:52.37 | miller7 | noone can find 10Mbps switch nowadays |
| 14:52.42 | JerJer | 10baseT |
| 14:52.47 | dimmik | and it's "premium bandwidth" :) |
| 14:53.01 | miller7 | what's their AS? |
| 14:53.06 | miller7 | see what premium is |
| 14:53.19 | voidptr | want 10mbps switches? |
| 14:53.26 | miller7 | voidptr: no :P |
| 14:53.30 | miller7 | thanks ;) |
| 14:53.46 | JerJer | lol @ servermatrix.com |
| 14:53.50 | JerJer | their network is a joke |
| 14:54.04 | doughecka | # Customer has root/admin access. # Ping Monitoring. # Network IDS. # Onsite Hands and Eyes. # O/S updates and patches. # Service Monitoring (FTP, SSH, HTTP, HTTPS, Terminal Services, etc….) [up to 3 services] # System Monitoring (Drive Space, Processor usage, Server Load, etc….) [up to 3 services] |
| 14:54.05 | doughecka | # Process Monitoring (ColdFusion.exe, PGP.exe, ApacheGuard.sh, snort, etc….) [up to 3 services] |
| 14:54.09 | doughecka | JerJer: why? |
| 14:54.17 | doughecka | JerJer: it sounds good for me ;) |
| 14:54.17 | *** join/#asterisk km- (pgrace@virgil.fierymoon.com) |
| 14:54.38 | km- | howdy |
| 14:54.46 | doughecka | yo km- |
| 14:55.07 | miller7 | hey km- |
| 14:55.20 | dimmik | hi km- |
| 14:55.33 | voidptr | *buuurp* km- |
| 14:55.50 | dant | How much is a switch? |
| 14:55.50 | dant | An 8 port switch is $25 per month. You must rent the switch from us. You cannot send us your own switch. |
| 14:55.51 | dant | yay |
| 14:56.08 | doughecka | dant: where? |
| 14:56.16 | dant | FAQ |
| 14:56.16 | km- | what is up all of my asterisky minions?! |
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| 14:58.47 | doughecka | hmm |
| 14:58.47 | doughecka | so |
| 14:58.54 | doughecka | I only want a single server |
| 14:58.54 | voidptr | so... |
| 14:59.01 | voidptr | there is christmas |
| 14:59.05 | voidptr | pom pom |
| 14:59.10 | voidptr | lalaladidaaaa |
| 14:59.23 | voidptr | with what? |
| 14:59.34 | miller7 | doughecka: with RHE? |
| 14:59.53 | doughecka | yep |
| 15:00.01 | doughecka | Our backbone border routers are Juniper M20's and our fully redundant switching layer comprises a certified six pack design of Cisco™ 6500 series switches. |
| 15:00.01 | voidptr | yuuck |
| 15:00.07 | doughecka | or redhat 9 |
| 15:00.12 | doughecka | but RHE has updates |
| 15:00.42 | JerJer | doughecka: i'd bet lots of money on either that server is a virtual server (ie user mode linux) or there is some hidden gotcha |
| 15:01.01 | miller7 | JerJer: nope... the war has not yet started :) |
| 15:01.14 | doughecka | JerJer: they say its your own server |
| 15:01.15 | miller7 | I am pretty positive this is a dedicated |
| 15:01.43 | miller7 | but you don't know if it's gonna be online tomorrow :P |
| 15:01.44 | JerJer | doughecka: they can say anything they want |
| 15:01.44 | miller7 | or the day after |
| 15:01.57 | doughecka | bah |
| 15:02.08 | UnixDawg | whats up with the net I cant get slackware 9.1 anywhere |
| 15:02.18 | UnixDawg | all the sites time out |
| 15:02.24 | JerJer | and u can make a pretty damn impressive looking virutal system... |
| 15:02.46 | doughecka | JerJer: hmm |
| 15:02.56 | JerJer | esp for that price |
| 15:03.12 | JerJer | we charge $149 for our dedicated servers |
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| 15:03.18 | JerJer | and they are real P4's not celeron crap |
| 15:03.30 | collinr_ | is iaxtel down ? |
| 15:03.37 | doughecka | JerJer: bah |
| 15:03.41 | doughecka | this is 60 dollars |
| 15:03.55 | UnixDawg | anyone have a iso of slack 9.0 or 9.1 |
| 15:03.55 | JerJer | and you pay for what you get |
| 15:04.00 | dimmik | JerJer: How mach bandwidth? |
| 15:04.01 | JerJer | 1) their network is crap |
| 15:04.03 | voidptr | 29 in germany |
| 15:04.08 | voidptr | eur... |
| 15:04.10 | doughecka | explain why its crap :) |
| 15:04.21 | JerJer | look it up |
| 15:04.29 | JerJer | they don't know how to peer |
| 15:04.35 | many | voidptr: that are elcheapo peecess |
| 15:04.40 | voidptr | yeah |
| 15:04.44 | voidptr | and crap network |
| 15:04.46 | voidptr | ;) |
| 15:04.52 | many | depends |
| 15:04.52 | doughecka | bah |
| 15:04.57 | many | ipx has a pretty good network |
| 15:05.01 | voidptr | pureserver.de |
| 15:05.06 | miller7 | voidptr: what did you expect? Dell or IBM? :P |
| 15:05.07 | miller7 | hehe |
| 15:05.08 | many | well, pureserver.... |
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| 15:06.08 | Shido6_ | anyone can get a fat pipe and still be peered wrong, any bum off the street can get a couple PRI's and hook it up to some gear and say HEY WORLD, LOOK AT ME. then when u push voip traffic through them its fine for about a day - ......then whats keeping them from jumping rope with the ethernet cable on YOUR box? |
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| 15:06.24 | miller7 | true |
| 15:06.34 | voidptr | sure :) |
| 15:06.58 | voidptr | here in holland anyone can get decent peering for nearly nothing though :P |
| 15:07.09 | jaycard | hey all, i keep getting echo on and off on my iax (voicepulse) connection any recommendations on settings on iax.conf ? |
| 15:07.09 | doughecka | Shido6_: heh |
| 15:07.20 | doughecka | Shido6_: but where do they say "our peering sucks" |
| 15:07.34 | JerJer | doughecka; they arent gonna say that |
| 15:07.35 | doughecka | and I problebly wont be doing voip |
| 15:07.40 | JerJer | you gota be smart enought o figure that out |
| 15:07.44 | JerJer | to |
| 15:07.50 | doughecka | or if I will, it will be one person, maybe 2 people at one time |
| 15:07.54 | Shido6_ | why would I say you're going to get food posining at my restaraunt today |
| 15:08.10 | doughecka | :P |
| 15:08.11 | miller7 | the restaurant owner eats at mc donalds |
| 15:08.16 | doughecka | miller7: yea |
| 15:08.16 | Shido6_ | LOL |
| 15:08.17 | voidptr | because its xmas, and you decide to be nice? ;) |
| 15:08.49 | Shido6_ | heh - i have a mickey d's story from a friend I could show you ..... ;) |
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| 15:10.50 | collinr_ | anybody know if there is a problem with iaxtel ? |
| 15:11.04 | miller7 | collinr_: there used to be a deadlock yesterday |
| 15:11.53 | collinr_ | -- Executing StripMSD("SIP/collinr-home-7420", "3") in new stack |
| 15:11.53 | collinr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.53 | collinr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.17 | voidptr | iax2 show registry |
| 15:12.31 | km- | hmm |
| 15:12.41 | collinr_ | I only have iax show registry |
| 15:12.52 | km- | you only have iax? |
| 15:12.57 | km- | what version of asterisk are you running? |
| 15:13.13 | collinr_ | avgw0*CLI> show version |
| 15:13.13 | collinr_ | Asterisk CVS-05/07/03-17:27:00 built by root@avgw0 on a i686 running Linux |
| 15:13.21 | km- | huh |
| 15:13.22 | collinr_ | I don't think it's really that old |
| 15:13.30 | km- | iax2 has been in cvs for longer than that |
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| 15:13.47 | km- | still, you really aught to upgrade |
| 15:14.08 | tholo | If it was updated via "cvs update" instead of "make update", the version date stamp did not get updated... |
| 15:14.16 | km- | because IAX is no longer supported on iaxtel |
| 15:14.20 | km- | its all IAX2 now |
| 15:14.29 | collinr_ | tholo: yeah I think that's what happened with the version |
| 15:14.50 | km- | *CLI> show version |
| 15:14.50 | km- | Asterisk CVS-12/09/03-19:50:05 built by root@astpbx1 on a i686 running Linux |
| 15:15.37 | km- | collinr: maybe your chan_iax2 module is not being loaded? |
| 15:15.46 | km- | if it is newer than 5/07 |
| 15:16.06 | collinr_ | hmmm I'll upgrade |
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| 15:16.23 | collinr_ | I always approach that with trepidation though :-) |
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| 15:24.16 | suma | km-: what is this Dial("SIP/collinr-home-7420", "IAX2/collinr:XXXXXX@iaxtel.com/18774791119@iaxtel") means? |
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| 15:24.38 | suma | can i bridge call in a single Dial command ? |
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| 15:27.33 | aljishi | hello everyone! |
| 15:27.41 | suma | hi aljishi / |
| 15:27.56 | aljishi | WooooW alot of users are here |
| 15:28.03 | aljishi | thats cool |
| 15:28.24 | aljishi | can someone help me out? I have couple of question |
| 15:28.31 | ciego34 | FWD promotion don´t work yet??? |
| 15:28.39 | Shido6_ | ask away |
| 15:28.40 | suma | don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 15:28.43 | Shido6_ | you are in the right place |
| 15:29.06 | suma | ciego34: might be a spam I think |
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| 15:29.51 | aljishi | Alright I have an old PBX at home and the funtion of it is every room has its own extention and it has two incomming phone lines |
| 15:30.13 | aljishi | when a phone comes to my brother i just transfer the call tohis room |
| 15:30.42 | aljishi | or just dial an extention of ceratin room adn talk to my other brothers |
| 15:30.57 | aljishi | but it is getting kind of old now with no called ID |
| 15:31.01 | collinr_ | anyone know how long usleep(X); pauses (it's used in chap_zap) |
| 15:31.19 | collinr_ | milliseconds ? |
| 15:31.36 | aljishi | will i be able to purchase the asterisk and do the same functions? |
| 15:31.48 | suma | asterisk is free |
| 15:31.57 | suma | you can do much more than that aljishi |
| 15:32.01 | Pj_ | lol :) |
| 15:32.17 | suma | just read the documentation and compile asterisk |
| 15:32.37 | suma | get help from reading mailinglists |
| 15:32.38 | aljishi | yeah i have but it was alittle confusing so i decided to ask what wa on my mind |
| 15:33.00 | suma | you want a pbx then asterisk is for you to maintain it hassle free |
| 15:33.04 | aljishi | ahhh can i support 2 of those card and then have 8 extentions? |
| 15:33.16 | suma | 2 cards ? |
| 15:33.18 | *** join/#asterisk jsmith (~jsmith@smithfam.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 15:33.23 | suma | you have isdn lines ? |
| 15:33.39 | aljishi | yeah see thats whats confusing me |
| 15:33.39 | km- | my wife is baking christmas cookies! WOO! |
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| 15:33.52 | jsmith | km-: IAX me some cookies, please? |
| 15:33.55 | suma | just visit http://www.digium.com and explore your requirements |
| 15:33.55 | aljishi | in the card i see 4 phone ports |
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| 15:34.15 | Shido6_ | read your privmsgs, aljishi |
| 15:34.16 | km- | jsmith: you got it! |
| 15:34.27 | *** part/#asterisk Hubguru (~Hubguru@ip68-14-121-33.no.no.cox.net) |
| 15:34.30 | km- | jsmith: see, we need transporters. Damn physicists. |
| 15:34.48 | jsmith | km-: You're a lucky man... my wife hates baking cookies... |
| 15:35.51 | aljishi | where is the provate msg? |
| 15:37.22 | Shido6_ | did you see them? |
| 15:38.00 | new_user | whereis the best place to get good documentation on how to use this, i need simple documentation to start with hopefully |
| 15:38.33 | collinr_ | What's documenation ? :-) |
| 15:39.02 | kapejod | use the source, luke. |
| 15:39.10 | Shido6_ | hr |
| 15:39.12 | Shido6_ | heh |
| 15:41.07 | new_user | funny, use the source, that assumes i am a programmer? or can read the programmer's language :) |
| 15:41.22 | doughecka | hah |
| 15:41.51 | collinr_ | http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation |
| 15:41.53 | km- | jsmith: my wife bends over backwards to be The Good Wife |
| 15:42.06 | collinr_ | new_user: This might help .... a little... |
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| 15:43.29 | jsmith | km-: I'm not saying my wife doesn't bend over backwards... I'm just saying she'll bend over backwards *before* she'll bake cookies :-) |
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| 15:44.38 | doughecka | lol |
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| 15:49.23 | jorgerai | aqui estas carlitoss..........................: ) |
| 15:54.08 | ciego34 | mdime |
| 16:01.12 | km- | hahahhaha |
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| 16:11.45 | ciego34 | Wildcard E100P |
| 16:11.45 | ciego34 | support |
| 16:11.45 | ciego34 | 30 voice cannels?? |
| 16:11.45 | ciego34 | For example, the card can support 16 channels dedicated to voice and 16 to data while passing all traffic through to the Asterisk PBX, which reliably routes the channels to their designated locations. This eliminates the need for an external router. |
| 16:11.46 | ciego34 | i only need it for 30 voice channels to isdn network |
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| 16:14.42 | ciego34 | any one here using For example, the card can support 16 channels dedicated to voice and 16 to data while passing all traffic through to the Asterisk PBX, which reliably routes the channels to their designated locations. This eliminates the need for an external router. |
| 16:14.48 | ciego34 | sorry |
| 16:15.03 | *** part/#asterisk collinr_ (~trillian@dyn1-225-dsl.michonline.net) |
| 16:15.16 | ciego34 | any one using Wildcard E100P there?? |
| 16:15.31 | jsmith | ciego34: I use a T100P... |
| 16:16.12 | ciego34 | i´m at spain, europe |
| 16:16.58 | Moc | ni all |
| 16:17.16 | ciego34 | here isdn pri = 30 voice channels |
| 16:18.09 | jsmith | Morning Moc |
| 16:18.16 | jsmith | ciego34: OK, I understand |
| 16:20.00 | ciego34 | what about pc power for runing at same time 30 voice g729 channels using asterisk?????? |
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| 16:25.39 | ciego34 | what amount of pc power i need for runing at same time 30 voice g729 channels using asterisk?????? sorry my english |
| 16:25.49 | ciego34 | any one can helpme? |
| 16:26.00 | tholo | I don't know -- but you won't get an answer faster by asking every 30 seconds. |
| 16:27.01 | doughecka | HEH |
| 16:27.49 | doughecka | yo kram! |
| 16:27.52 | doughecka | hows iaxy? |
| 16:28.00 | tholo | How's Xilinx? |
| 16:28.02 | kram | i have soft upgradability working |
| 16:28.05 | kram | on iaxy |
| 16:28.10 | kram | it's via tftp for now |
| 16:28.17 | kram | eventually it will be via iax2 |
| 16:28.17 | Stealth_Man | kram: where is iaxyyyy give it to us :) |
| 16:28.21 | doughecka | kewl!!! |
| 16:28.25 | kram | but even *anything* is sufficient |
| 16:28.38 | Stealth_Man | kram: do you have any documentation ? pdf's for iaxy ? |
| 16:28.50 | kram | stealth: what's to know? |
| 16:28.56 | kram | it's an FXS -> IAX2 |
| 16:28.58 | doughecka | how much |
| 16:28.59 | Mike | hey guys |
| 16:29.01 | kram | you can check "iaxyprov" out of CS |
| 16:29.02 | kram | err |
| 16:29.03 | kram | CVS |
| 16:29.06 | kram | that's the provisioning tool |
| 16:29.10 | kram | that's all there is to iaxy |
| 16:29.14 | Mike | my call is getting disconect when i call sip top sip in my internal lan |
| 16:29.17 | Stealth_Man | kram: we want to put it in our online store .. |
| 16:29.23 | Mike | but not when i call sip to sip on the internet |
| 16:29.24 | Stealth_Man | for pre-orders :) |
| 16:29.26 | Mike | any ideas? |
| 16:29.38 | kram | mike: dunno |
| 16:29.45 | Stealth_Man | me and you ,we know what is FXS-IAX: ) but people always looking for doc's:) |
| 16:29.47 | kram | stealth: talk to Greg Monday, he has a list |
| 16:30.00 | Stealth_Man | kram: ok , so units ready for testing ? |
| 16:30.00 | doughecka | greg on monday? |
| 16:30.05 | UnixDawg | ok who has a slackware 9.0 or 9.1 iso I can ftp ? |
| 16:30.11 | doughecka | slackware sux |
| 16:30.12 | doughecka | :P |
| 16:30.27 | kram | we've got a bunch already built |
| 16:30.34 | Stealth_Man | kram: ohhh man |
| 16:30.35 | kram | today is "program the iaxy's" day |
| 16:30.35 | point | slacka rulezzz :) |
| 16:30.36 | doughecka | its just the firmware now eh? |
| 16:30.55 | Stealth_Man | I was waiting on Greg .. he primised me to send info when it will be ready |
| 16:31.03 | UnixDawg | slack is what I need for the project |
| 16:31.30 | point | UnixDawg, slackware.at is enought fast |
| 16:31.55 | Stealth_Man | kram : iaxy, does it have tftp fucntion to lock/upgrade unit ? |
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| 16:32.57 | UnixDawg | I have tried all the local sites on thelist at slack for mirrors and 1/2 are not offering and the other half time out |
| 16:33.04 | Corydon76-home | kram: what's the embedded chipset on the IAXy? |
| 16:33.43 | Stealth_Man | kram: IAXy is it FCC certified ? |
| 16:34.20 | miller7 | kram: when you think that production iaxys will be ready? |
| 16:35.26 | ManxPower | It would be nice if tie IAXy was upgradeable by dialing an extension (Maybe an extension that runs app_iaxtupdgrade, like app_adsiprog |
| 16:35.55 | kram | miller: first set of 100 will ship before xmas |
| 16:36.08 | kram | then we'll wait about two months before we build the next 1k most likely |
| 16:36.19 | loko_moko | how much and how do order |
| 16:36.22 | ManxPower | kram, Any idea what the cost per port will be? |
| 16:36.23 | loko_moko | or are those 100 spoken for |
| 16:36.25 | kram | make sure people are happy with them |
| 16:36.27 | tholo | This is called the "beta period", eh? ;-) |
| 16:36.33 | kram | manx: list will be $99 |
| 16:36.39 | kram | 1 port only |
| 16:36.57 | Stealth_Man | kram: did you applied for fcc certification already ? |
| 16:37.03 | ManxPower | Cool! So on par with the cost per port of the X100P or TDM40B. |
| 16:37.09 | kram | no, not yet, it will only be necessary for emissions |
| 16:37.14 | kram | no part 68 since it doesn't connect to PSTN |
| 16:37.14 | Stealth_Man | kram: can we lock config on iaxy ? |
| 16:37.21 | kram | stealth: eventually, but not yet |
| 16:37.29 | kram | remember, this 100 is definitely "beta" |
| 16:37.40 | Stealth_Man | kram: sure , but I need part of this 100 !! :) |
| 16:37.46 | Stealth_Man | i was on waiting list for long time ;-) |
| 16:37.54 | ManxPower | I would be VERY, VERY disapointed if the IAXy supported "never able to bypass the lock" like Vonage did with their ATA-186s |
| 16:37.56 | kram | stealth: *nods* if greg has you down i'm sure you'llg et some |
| 16:37.57 | Stealth_Man | I will send email with CC: to you :)) |
| 16:38.22 | kram | manx: iaxy will be able to be configured either wide open or "if you lose the AES key, it becomes a brick" |
| 16:38.36 | Stealth_Man | hehe |
| 16:38.48 | kram | has to be able to work that way to be able to support service providers bundling it with their service |
| 16:38.51 | kram | like cell phones |
| 16:38.51 | Stealth_Man | kram: what is the weigt of unit ? |
| 16:38.58 | kram | it's very small |
| 16:38.59 | loko_moko | cell phones are easily unlockable |
| 16:39.00 | Corydon76-home | Oh? Not completely reprogrammable? |
| 16:39.00 | kram | you want to see one? |
| 16:39.04 | Stealth_Man | does it have fax support ? and which codecs does it supports ? |
| 16:39.14 | kram | yes, of course if you wanted to write your own stack you could reprogram it |
| 16:39.15 | loko_moko | kram how much stuff do you need to buy to qualify as a reseller to get discounts |
| 16:39.28 | kram | loko; talk to greg |
| 16:39.34 | loko_moko | which one is greg |
| 16:39.40 | kram | greg vance (gvance@digium.com) |
| 16:39.40 | Stealth_Man | :LOL |
| 16:39.41 | point | UnixDawg, get slackware-current tree and make your own iso ... |
| 16:39.44 | loko_moko | thanks |
| 16:40.12 | Stealth_Man | kram: which email are you reading everyday ? which address is best to use, to CC: you ?:) |
| 16:40.14 | ManxPower | It would be nice if there was some way to "lock the box for a max of 12 months" (assuming the box can get it's time via IAX from the server) |
| 16:40.22 | Stealth_Man | last time you helped me to get Greg :) |
| 16:40.45 | Stealth_Man | MAnx: yes ... nice suggestion |
| 16:40.56 | ManxPower | That way you get the best of both worlds. Locked hardware (I bought it, but I can't do anything with it) and wide open (I got my free IAXy and then dumped the service after a month) |
| 16:40.58 | Corydon76-home | Stealth_Man: there's an IAXtel number on the Digium site for sales... you might get Greg immediately |
| 16:41.06 | tholo | But then you'd just set the time on your server, start IAXy, unlock, reset time on the server. No good... |
| 16:41.22 | kram | markster@digium.com, but be aware that i get ~ 200 e-mails/day so don't take it personally if something bad happens |
| 16:41.24 | Stealth_Man | Corydon: )) I have even IAX dialing to Digium , Greg is busy all the times :) |
| 16:41.39 | ManxPower | tholo, perhaps, but I think it's morally wrong to sell devices that can become bricks |
| 16:42.08 | Corydon76-home | Everybody at Digium is busy all the time. ;-) |
| 16:42.08 | kram | okay back to work on tholo's stuff |
| 16:42.17 | Stealth_Man | mark : no prob :)) but point is i need your small help :) last time you did some magic and Greg became available :)) |
| 16:42.27 | km- | woot |
| 16:42.30 | Stealth_Man | corydon: yehh exactly |
| 16:42.31 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 16:45.21 | km- | :P |
| 16:47.38 | ManxPower | tholo, it should not be too tough to have a write-once register to hold the unlock date. |
| 16:48.18 | UnixDawg | this sucks |
| 16:48.20 | ManxPower | You could fake it out by setting the time on your asterisk server to be wrong, but that would cause other problems that most people won't want to deal iwth. |
| 16:49.12 | ]data[ | heh my local cinema have updated their hotline, rocks :) |
| 16:49.23 | ]data[ | voice recognition n stuff |
| 16:49.38 | ]data[ | 'please say the name of the film you wish to enquire about' |
| 16:49.49 | ]data[ | 'you have selected: Lord Of The Rings, Return of the King' |
| 16:49.51 | ]data[ | :)) |
| 16:50.28 | ]data[ | 'you are currently number 5 in the queue, estimated time 5 minutes 37 seconds' |
| 16:51.08 | loko_moko | sounds like you need to sell them a new phone system |
| 16:51.18 | loko_moko | to handle more callers |
| 16:51.34 | ]data[ | hehe |
| 16:51.58 | ]data[ | has anyone got a voice recognition system for asterisk yet? |
| 16:53.05 | km- | there was some chatter on the -dev list about voicexml shit |
| 16:53.13 | km- | but I haven't heard of anyone actually doing anything with the idea |
| 16:53.48 | ]data[ | rofl |
| 16:53.51 | ]data[ | there system sucks |
| 16:53.59 | ]data[ | 'you are currently #4 in the queue' |
| 16:54.02 | ]data[ | 3 secs later |
| 16:54.08 | ]data[ | 'welcome to cineworld swindon' |
| 16:54.47 | miller7 | ]data[: the batler is the killer in ROTR 3 |
| 16:54.51 | miller7 | LOTR |
| 16:57.48 | km- | hey guys |
| 16:57.57 | km- | I'm sitting here going over my CDR and I'm noticing something odd |
| 16:58.15 | Shido6_ | my precious cdr |
| 16:58.16 | Shido6_ | s |
| 16:58.34 | km- | well... cdr isn't logging a callerid entry when people first call in |
| 16:58.49 | km- | the clid/src are recorded after the user hits something |
| 16:59.05 | km- | is that a bug in my extensions logic or does Background() not log the number |
| 17:02.10 | Moc | is there a logistic PBX Setup guide ? |
| 17:03.50 | Moc | for best choice for multi office setup (phone number) extention for voicemail and stuff.. ? |
| 17:04.02 | bkw_ | ya its called bkw_ |
| 17:04.12 | km- | bkw: the man with the master plan! |
| 17:04.21 | Moc | lol// |
| 17:04.41 | Moc | It just once you start bad a design it isn't good |
| 17:06.06 | miller7 | is there a way to get a new cdr when I go to a new context or extension? |
| 17:06.29 | JerJer | aparently you don't understand what a Call Detail Record is |
| 17:06.54 | miller7 | JerJer: productive would be much more appreciated |
| 17:06.59 | miller7 | productive comments |
| 17:07.08 | jtew__ | miller7: go look at the CDR file and see what it contains |
| 17:07.30 | km- | jer, brian |
| 17:07.34 | km- | maybe you guys can help me figure it out.. |
| 17:07.35 | miller7 | jtew__: I am using AGI and I read about bug #240 as well |
| 17:07.41 | km- | Whenever people call in to my system but never select anything |
| 17:07.58 | miller7 | and I don't understand what should normal behaviour be |
| 17:07.59 | km- | the cdr record gets written with the only thing they did -- Background() -- but the CID isn't written in the record |
| 17:08.08 | km- | I'd like to know who's calling and hanging up |
| 17:08.24 | JerJer | if caller*id was sent it will be in the record |
| 17:08.36 | km- | in case it's someone who has no clue that the system actually is not voicemail |
| 17:08.37 | km- | oh? |
| 17:08.42 | km- | I'll try through nufone and see if it writes |
| 17:08.43 | Moc | btw on our |
| 17:08.46 | km- | jsut a sec |
| 17:09.18 | km- | jerjer: AHH. |
| 17:09.26 | km- | jerjer: so I guess all these hangups are telemarketers. |
| 17:09.27 | km- | WOO. |
| 17:09.58 | JerJer | or complete idoits that don't know how to set their callerid |
| 17:10.17 | km- | ahahaha, well, this is PSTN so the idiots would be verizon |
| 17:10.25 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:10.57 | jtew__ | Idiots I tell ya ... idiots! |
| 17:11.00 | jtew__ | LOL |
| 17:11.03 | km- | hahaha jon |
| 17:11.09 | km- | jtew: how's CTI coming? |
| 17:11.23 | bkw_ | 240 is not a bug |
| 17:11.30 | km- | it's a feature! |
| 17:11.32 | bkw_ | its how its designed to work |
| 17:11.45 | bkw_ | you MUST use extensions not apps as the target |
| 17:11.46 | PBXtech | * has cti in works? |
| 17:11.48 | miller7 | It's added as a bug that's why I call it "bug 240" |
| 17:11.58 | miller7 | you say it's not a bug and I am trying to understand |
| 17:12.03 | jtew__ | km-: Good... our server is collecting the call varibles from the inbound queued calls and associating them with the agent. We've also got the server triggering the recording of the calls when the customer leaves the queue to talk with the agent. We're in the process of writing the client protocol. |
| 17:12.29 | jtew__ | km-: I'll probably have my first functional test client in about a week or so (whenever I get enough spare time from all the other crap) |
| 17:12.36 | PBXtech | 12[4jtew__12]1: how many agents? |
| 17:12.50 | bkw_ | miller7 basically use extensions not apps in your call file and it will be logged |
| 17:13.00 | jtew__ | pbxtech: have many agents is it going to support? |
| 17:13.00 | km- | jtew: gonna share it right...? :P |
| 17:13.11 | miller7 | bkw_: I do that. That's why I am confused (it's an AGI app) |
| 17:13.23 | PBXtech | thats what i was asking you |
| 17:13.33 | miller7 | and it's logged but as one line only and I try to see how I can get 2 cdrs |
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| 17:13.49 | jtew__ | km-: Yeah, we're writing the first version in Java just to quickly get the prototype done. Then we're going to rewrite it in C (cause that is what people are used to with *). We'll probably release each version as soon as possible. |
| 17:13.58 | km- | jtew: actually, I'm only interested in your CTI stuff because I wanted to make a call appearance lightboard |
| 17:14.09 | jtew__ | It's pluggable so the crap that is UltraCart specific won't be released, etc. |
| 17:14.32 | km- | ah rock |
| 17:14.32 | km- | I'm actually interested in the java version over the C version, jon |
| 17:14.32 | jtew__ | km-: with the pluggable interface you should be able to do that. |
| 17:14.34 | km- | if you could let me have a copy of your underbelly |
| 17:14.51 | km- | the name of the game with this app will be run-everywhere |
| 17:15.05 | bkw_ | and you say you're not gay |
| 17:15.13 | bkw_ | leave his underbelly alone |
| 17:15.14 | km- | my wife is just a front! |
| 17:15.18 | km- | :P |
| 17:15.19 | PBXtech | 12[4jtew__12]1: your stuff going to be GPL? |
| 17:15.23 | jtew__ | km-: It uses the manager interface (with some patches to pbx.c to get more events for call variables) |
| 17:15.25 | km- | brian, she's baking cookies |
| 17:15.35 | km- | that'd be a big "OMG!" |
| 17:15.38 | JerJer | yeah and burn up three times the resources |
| 17:15.54 | JerJer | while its running everywehre |
| 17:16.13 | jtew__ | pbxtech: we'll pick an appropriate license... It'll either be GPL or FreeBeer |
| 17:16.14 | km- | jerjer: bah, we've got more java programmers on staff at RTT than we have all other languages combined |
| 17:16.22 | km- | jerjer: I used to feel just like you |
| 17:16.37 | km- | jerjer: then I realized, for my job's safety and personal sanity, that Java "Isn't That Bad" |
| 17:16.48 | jtew__ | let's not start a religous debate over languages... |
| 17:16.52 | JerJer | but it is |
| 17:16.55 | rozo | let's not. |
| 17:16.59 | PBXtech | i like free beer |
| 17:17.32 | jtew__ | pbxtech: We're in the shopping cart business... not the phone business... so we're not going to try to make a buck off a product that we wouldn't want to support, etc. So open source for these kind of things works out well. |
| 17:17.35 | YoYo^ | ok, I did something to break voicemail. it plays the intro, beeps, then says 'goodbye' |
| 17:17.40 | YoYo^ | anyone know what to look at? |
| 17:17.52 | bkw_ | makesure you have the mailboxes setup |
| 17:18.24 | bkw_ | in the conf file? |
| 17:18.32 | PBXtech | so is there a CTI project in works? |
| 17:18.32 | YoYo^ | they are... this seems to have started in the last couple days |
| 17:18.56 | jtew__ | pbxtech: We're doing our best to create it... right now the management interface doesn't have much call control functionality built in it. |
| 17:19.07 | jtew__ | pbxtech: We're working on screen pops and call recording first... then we'll move on from there |
| 17:19.12 | km- | hahahaha |
| 17:19.26 | km- | jerjer: I know better than to get into a religious confrontation with you! :P |
| 17:19.29 | jtew__ | pbxtech: Our hope is to get something out there that people use and drum up interest in further development of the CTI portion of the * |
| 17:19.33 | PBXtech | fantastic |
| 17:19.40 | Moc | www.beerpal.com |
| 17:20.29 | jtew__ | pbxtech: I would like to see * CTI on par with Cisco IPCC CTI... so we can crush them! :) |
| 17:21.42 | JerJer | all it takes is proper motivation |
| 17:21.50 | km- | jerjer: do you have any cool scripts for doing billing by CDR? |
| 17:22.02 | JerJer | billing isn't a script |
| 17:22.11 | bkw_ | far from it |
| 17:22.19 | bkw_ | billing shouldn't be done with scripts anyway |
| 17:22.25 | bkw_ | good ole C |
| 17:22.36 | km- | ok well, my being properly chastised and redirected, the question still stands! :P |
| 17:22.37 | voidptr | it depends what algo you have |
| 17:22.39 | bkw_ | use the API ... feel the power |
| 17:22.44 | voidptr | you could do it in scripts |
| 17:22.47 | voidptr | ;) |
| 17:22.50 | *** join/#asterisk Moc (~Moc@modemcable205.159-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:22.56 | km- | I heard someone grumble about app_billing |
| 17:22.57 | bkw_ | km- I can tell you anything JerJer has won't see the light of day. |
| 17:22.58 | km- | but I haven't seen it before |
| 17:23.03 | JerJer | and I can hook asterisk up to my toaster, but is it a good idea? |
| 17:23.04 | JerJer | no |
| 17:23.09 | YoYo^ | WARNING[131089]: File app_voicemail.c, Line 1245 (leave_voicemail): No more messages possible |
| 17:23.09 | YoYo^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.09 | km- | hey |
| 17:23.09 | voidptr | :) |
| 17:23.12 | km- | that's a great fucking idea |
| 17:23.14 | YoYo^ | WTF? |
| 17:23.18 | bkw_ | YoYo the box is full |
| 17:23.19 | YoYo^ | how are no more messages possible? |
| 17:23.22 | km- | start your toaster remotely! |
| 17:23.23 | bkw_ | 100 messages |
| 17:23.29 | bkw_ | FULL mailbox |
| 17:23.34 | YoYo^ | omg... that's bullshit |
| 17:23.39 | bkw_ | you can change that |
| 17:23.42 | JerJer | YoYo^: fix it |
| 17:23.44 | bkw_ | its defined at the top |
| 17:23.54 | rozo | who keeps 100 voicemail messages? |
| 17:24.12 | YoYo^ | rozo: who deletes them? |
| 17:24.14 | bkw_ | #define MAXMSG 100 |
| 17:24.29 | YoYo^ | we get VM by email... emptying out the box on the * server is a pain |
| 17:24.47 | rozo | yoyo: write a script that deletes all the voiemail daily |
| 17:24.48 | bkw_ | cd /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/MAILBOX/INBOX |
| 17:24.48 | rozo | that's what we do |
| 17:24.50 | bkw_ | rm -rf * |
| 17:25.06 | rozo | otherwise, your HD space is going to get eaten up useless files. |
| 17:25.24 | Mike | bkw_: you saw my msg? |
| 17:25.29 | bkw_ | what message? |
| 17:25.32 | Mike | bkw_: like 6 hours ago |
| 17:25.32 | Mike | ? |
| 17:25.38 | Mike | ill paste it on msg |
| 17:27.14 | voidptr | people don't change much |
| 17:27.22 | JerJer | YoYo^: build a system so when u respond to the email it erases the email |
| 17:27.38 | JerJer | you gota be smarter than what your working on |
| 17:27.47 | km- | that's actually a damned good idea |
| 17:28.14 | bkw_ | or hack voicemail to del the message after it emails it |
| 17:28.14 | rozo | we tried that but something like that but it was easier to just include URL that deleted the vm. |
| 17:28.16 | km- | especially since you can quite easily get the relevant info from the replied address |
| 17:28.22 | rozo | -but |
| 17:28.46 | Mike | qualify=yes on internal lan is it ok? |
| 17:28.56 | JerJer | unnecessary |
| 17:29.36 | Mike | well calls are getting disconnected |
| 17:29.40 | Mike | for some reason im talking and |
| 17:29.44 | Mike | in less than 1min |
| 17:29.49 | Mike | the call is gone |
| 17:29.55 | Mike | like if the other party hangup |
| 17:29.55 | bkw_ | OMG I wonder if thats killing the grandstreams |
| 17:29.59 | JerJer | something is telling it to dicsonnect |
| 17:30.18 | km- | see mike |
| 17:30.21 | km- | it's the damned grandstreams |
| 17:30.21 | km- | :P |
| 17:30.29 | YoYo^ | I'm just gonna set up a cron job to kill old vm |
| 17:30.31 | JerJer | BarbieTone |
| 17:30.41 | Mike | its not grandstreams |
| 17:30.48 | Mike | i have GS on remote sites |
| 17:30.53 | Mike | with same config and its not doing that |
| 17:30.53 | YoYo^ | then I'm going to see about figuring out a patch to say "sorry, this mailbox is full" |
| 17:31.32 | Moc | <bkw_> #define MAXMSG 100 |
| 17:31.47 | Mike | whats the biggest uptime you guys had with an asterisk server? |
| 17:31.56 | JerJer | 9 seconds |
| 17:32.12 | Mike | the secondary server of mine using the seconday house landline its almost up to 20days |
| 17:32.13 | Mike | :P |
| 17:32.33 | JerJer | i've got boxes i haven't touched in 6 months |
| 17:33.08 | Mike | proyectoslibres*CLI> show uptime |
| 17:33.08 | Mike | System uptime: 3 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes, 11 seconds |
| 17:33.08 | Mike | proyectoslibres*CLI> |
| 17:33.28 | YoYo^ | Moc: I know that... the max messages isn't the problem |
| 17:33.31 | Mike | well but the primary server has to be restart always for something new |
| 17:33.36 | YoYo^ | *'s behavior when it reaches that limit is |
| 17:33.44 | Moc | ho hehe ok |
| 17:33.44 | rollergrrl | JerJer has boxes he hasn't touched in months |
| 17:33.53 | YoYo^ | it should either recycle msg numbers or tell the caller that the mailbox is full |
| 17:33.56 | loko_moko | sounds like a nice exploitable box |
| 17:33.58 | Moc | btw if asterisk very multilingual |
| 17:34.05 | JerJer | loko_moko: go for it |
| 17:34.15 | km- | hahaa |
| 17:34.19 | loko_moko | heh |
| 17:34.29 | JerJer | ur gonna have a hard time getting to them, however |
| 17:34.40 | YoYo^ | Jer hasn't touched a box in months? |
| 17:34.59 | JerJer | mmm box |
| 17:35.00 | point | rollergrrl, JerJer even did not install them ... :) |
| 17:35.18 | rollergrrl | hehe |
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| 17:35.25 | lorenita | hi to all |
| 17:35.52 | rollergrrl | and to all a good night |
| 17:36.07 | bkw_ | YoYo^ I guess I can hack it to say its full |
| 17:36.19 | bkw_ | and the max messages should be a config file option |
| 17:36.47 | YoYo^ | both hacks are easy |
| 17:37.56 | bkw_ | I see no way to keep track of location on a recycle option |
| 17:38.05 | bkw_ | unless you writeout an index.txt file |
| 17:38.16 | YoYo^ | I'd like to see * start @ 000, count to 999 before going back to 000, while still maintaining a maximum of N messages |
| 17:38.34 | km- | I'd like to see asterisk make me coffee and breakfast |
| 17:38.43 | rollergrrl | mmm breakfast |
| 17:38.48 | km- | despite jerjer's misgivings, I think it's both possible and probable |
| 17:38.53 | km- | however, it doesn't mean it's going to happen! :) |
| 17:38.53 | YoYo^ | fifo... file creation time |
| 17:39.01 | Mike | bkw_: whats IAXy |
| 17:39.02 | Mike | ?? |
| 17:39.11 | km- | rollergrrl: long live sausage! |
| 17:39.21 | rollergrrl | km-: uhh |
| 17:39.22 | YoYo^ | Mike, it's a vaporware ATA-like solution |
| 17:39.30 | km- | It's not vaporware! |
| 17:39.33 | miller7 | iaxy is a Cisco ATA solution using IAX protocol |
| 17:39.37 | km- | They're going to be shipping before christmas! :P |
| 17:39.44 | miller7 | cisco ata like :) |
| 17:39.46 | Mike | and how much for each? |
| 17:39.58 | miller7 | mike: it's pre-production still. |
| 17:40.04 | km- | MSRP is $99 USD |
| 17:40.04 | Corydon76-home | Correction: they're going to be shipping a limited beta edition before Christmas |
| 17:40.10 | Mike | but more less??? |
| 17:40.11 | *** join/#asterisk Moc (~Moc@modemcable205.159-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:40.19 | km- | corydon: what, the Mark Spencer Signature Limited Edition? :P |
| 17:40.23 | Corydon76-home | The production run should follow in several months |
| 17:40.31 | rollergrrl | lol |
| 17:40.43 | km- | "With Chrome Highlights!" |
| 17:40.43 | Corydon76-home | No, the beta run is to work out additional kinks |
| 17:40.49 | Mike | so we still dont know a price? |
| 17:40.59 | km- | mike: you can expect it to cost somewhere around $100 a unit |
| 17:41.05 | Corydon76-home | $99 will be the price |
| 17:41.17 | Corydon76-home | but they're not for public consumption yet |
| 17:41.18 | Mike | and it wll have for 2 phones or 1? |
| 17:41.22 | km- | 1 phone |
| 17:41.24 | Corydon76-home | Just 1 |
| 17:41.29 | km- | in other words, get an ATA-186 |
| 17:41.29 | km- | :P |
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| 17:41.39 | Mike | km-: a sipura2000 |
| 17:41.47 | glLoadIdentity | hi all , hi kardes |
| 17:41.58 | Mike | but iax is nat friendly |
| 17:42.01 | Mike | :P |
| 17:42.02 | km- | yes it is |
| 17:42.12 | km- | but that IAXy is not pocket friendly for the options it gives |
| 17:42.22 | km- | now, this is seperate from my digium hardware rant |
| 17:42.36 | Corydon76-home | Well, the IAXy is light enough |
| 17:42.40 | Moc | ata-186 support 2 line ? |
| 17:42.40 | miller7 | ata-186's second channel is g711 only, right? |
| 17:42.42 | km- | I don't want to pay $100 for an IAXy if I can get an ATA-186 on ebay for about the same |
| 17:42.57 | km- | miller7: I think both channels can be either g711u,g711a, or g729 |
| 17:42.58 | Corydon76-home | new price vs used price? |
| 17:43.10 | km- | throwing out new vs used |
| 17:43.22 | km- | a used ATA-186 is more useful to me than a new IAXy since it has 2 ports instead of one |
| 17:43.22 | kram | km- exactly |
| 17:43.35 | kram | km- you hit the nail on the head more than you know |
| 17:43.40 | glLoadIdentity | km-: and g723 |
| 17:43.45 | Mike | km-: get a sipura2000 |
| 17:43.46 | km- | kram: I did? |
| 17:43.50 | kram | you sure did |
| 17:43.53 | miller7 | km-: I remember that I read a year ago or so that only first channel can have g729, the second channel is always g711. I think |
| 17:43.56 | Moc | so cisco dont use SIP or IAX ? |
| 17:44.07 | km- | :P |
| 17:44.10 | Corydon76-home | km-: why not build your own? |
| 17:44.27 | YoYo^ | ok, so where does one order one of these limited edition beta IAXy units from? |
| 17:44.29 | kram | the pricing of the iaxy is no accident |
| 17:44.31 | Moc | ata-188 is better or different tech |
| 17:44.41 | kram | it is priced to be not excessively expensive, but definitely not the cheapest in its category |
| 17:44.49 | km- | kram: why did you guys not go for two lines? |
| 17:44.51 | kram | clearly the grandstreams is cheaper and ebay |
| 17:44.56 | kram | if you're looking for just a unit |
| 17:45.23 | km- | I'm still going to wind up getting an IAXy eventually, but, I just cant seem to understand why 1 line versus 2 |
| 17:45.34 | km- | .... |
| 17:45.36 | Corydon76-home | Hmmm, if it were the cheapest option, that would put an unusual market strain on Asterisk... |
| 17:45.39 | km- | I just realized why it's so useful. |
| 17:45.43 | miller7 | from cisco.com re: Ata 186: |
| 17:45.44 | miller7 | In simultaneous dual-port operation, the second port is limited to G.711 when using G.729 |
| 17:45.51 | kram | well, we talked to many service providers |
| 17:45.54 | km- | kram: you can do any codec you want on this sucker, right? |
| 17:45.56 | kram | and most don't care about the second port |
| 17:45.58 | kram | so we omitted it |
| 17:45.58 | km- | kram: i.e., ilbc or gsm? |
| 17:46.00 | miller7 | so practically it's useless if you can't use 2 g729 channels |
| 17:46.09 | kram | km- nope, only G.711 and eventually G.726 |
| 17:46.14 | km- | oh poop |
| 17:46.19 | miller7 | to someone with not too much bw at least |
| 17:46.29 | loko_moko | what codec does the ata-186 use |
| 17:46.30 | km- | if I could do gsm or ilbc on the unit that would make it worth the $100 for 1 channel |
| 17:46.33 | YoYo^ | aren't both those codec high bw? |
| 17:46.35 | km- | the bandwidth savings are great |
| 17:46.42 | Moc | you can fax using VoIP.. good.. |
| 17:46.48 | km- | we could equip our remote offices with them |
| 17:46.52 | kram | yes, but again, most people who use VoIP have broadband |
| 17:47.01 | jtew__ | fax over voip... I didn't think that was possible |
| 17:47.04 | kram | and few service providers deploy G.729 or similar |
| 17:47.05 | YoYo^ | kram: Verizon sells DSL... 128k upload |
| 17:47.05 | km- | this is true, but if I've got 7 remote offices |
| 17:47.09 | km- | all calling in for a conference call |
| 17:47.10 | YoYo^ | 2 channels and your connection is shot |
| 17:47.10 | kram | it's just not worth the degraded quality |
| 17:47.13 | km- | to our fractional T1 at the mother ship |
| 17:47.14 | km- | :LP |
| 17:47.28 | kram | see... |
| 17:47.29 | km- | how much KB/sec is ulaw? |
| 17:47.37 | kram | the iaxy is all about going after the low hanging fruit |
| 17:47.43 | Moc | got cable at 640kbits upload |
| 17:47.43 | miller7 | km-: 64 + overhead = about 80 |
| 17:47.46 | kram | it's about going after 90% of the market |
| 17:47.50 | kram | and ignoring the remaining 10% entirely |
| 17:47.52 | kram | don't even try |
| 17:47.56 | miller7 | km-: kbps |
| 17:48.01 | kram | if you don't have broadband, the iaxy isn't for you |
| 17:48.12 | kram | (unless you're using it on your LAN of course) |
| 17:48.14 | km- | kram: ah hah. |
| 17:48.24 | Mike | kram: when is it going to be ready to ship? |
| 17:48.25 | kram | who *will* like the iaxy you ask? |
| 17:48.27 | km- | kram: so you guys are doing good business in the business sector then.. |
| 17:48.32 | miller7 | kram: many dsl providers have ADSL with 128kbps uplink |
| 17:48.35 | kram | our goal is to sell into service providers |
| 17:48.49 | kram | see, if i try to compete with grandstream on price selling to you, the user who is going to buy a single unit for his house... |
| 17:48.55 | km- | jtew: HAHAHAH |
| 17:48.57 | kram | the moment we answer the phone to answer your question, we've lost money |
| 17:49.06 | km- | kram: that's a good point |
| 17:49.07 | kram | why would i want that market? |
| 17:49.19 | km- | kram: but that's why you guys have resellers. :P |
| 17:49.20 | kram | now, if you're a service provider and you're going to be 2500 units to deploy to customers... |
| 17:49.31 | km- | kram: we buy the units in cases of 100 and then we worry about selling the fuckers. :P |
| 17:49.35 | kram | then i provide support once, and sell the product thousands of times over |
| 17:50.03 | kram | km-: yes, but again, if i price it low, then the reseller can't have enough margin to make it interesting for them, and certainly not interesting enough to support |
| 17:50.07 | kram | and you end up with grandstream syndrome |
| 17:50.15 | km- | ah, yes.... |
| 17:50.24 | kram | so... |
| 17:50.29 | YoYo^ | miller, I think he's ignoring the fact that many broadband connections have limited upstream capabilities |
| 17:50.33 | YoYo^ | oh well |
| 17:50.35 | kram | our goal with the iaxy pricing is to be fair, but not the cheapest of its class in 1 unit |
| 17:50.41 | miller7 | I think that more support to GS is given through * mailing list than from GS directly :) |
| 17:50.52 | kram | but (we hope) beat the pants off anybody else competing for 1000+ units |
| 17:51.14 | km- | kram: do you already have committed ITSP's? |
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| 17:51.47 | kram | for prototypes yes |
| 17:51.59 | kram | nobody's going to commit to real numbers until they've used one |
| 17:52.06 | YoYo^ | *CHEER* for the protohypes! |
| 17:52.07 | YoYo^ | =D |
| 17:52.07 | km- | yeah |
| 17:52.09 | kram | and there is still a fair amount of software development to do |
| 17:52.13 | Mike | kram: so how does grandstream survive? |
| 17:52.13 | kram | before it's ready for prime time |
| 17:52.17 | kram | but now that we have remote upgrade, it's good |
| 17:52.23 | Moc | PBX Appliance might be the next thing .. |
| 17:52.27 | kram | mike: they don't have much overhead |
| 17:52.43 | kram | mike: and they don't provide real support for their product |
| 17:52.52 | kram | mike: i mean they support us, of course... |
| 17:52.57 | Mike | kram: email and phone support are there |
| 17:53.03 | Moc | kram: Hey Linksys 54G router run linux .. maybe a hack to it be good ? :) |
| 17:53.10 | Mike | even on messenger hehehe |
| 17:53.20 | kram | mike: but if you try to call them up and say "hey can you help me connect my phone to asterisk? What do i put in my sip.conf" |
| 17:53.47 | kram | mike: and also, grandstream has (I feel) been effective in marketing directly into big enterprises |
| 17:53.54 | jtew__ | I think the best way to support users is overwhelming good documentation... take BEA WebLogic for instance... complex product, but the docs cover everything! |
| 17:54.10 | km- | that's one thing I wish we all could organize better |
| 17:54.12 | km- | a documentation project |
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| 17:54.28 | km- | I mean, everyone's got little faq's here and there |
| 17:54.29 | Mike | kram: and aixy is going to be sold to * users? |
| 17:54.33 | Mike | kram: on digium? |
| 17:54.40 | km- | but we need an oreilly book |
| 17:54.40 | km- | :P |
| 17:55.10 | jsmith | km-: So, come help us write one in #asterisk-doc! |
| 17:55.29 | km- | haha |
| 17:55.36 | jsmith | km-: Why are you laughing? |
| 17:55.43 | jsmith | km-: I'm serious... |
| 17:55.54 | kram | mike: yes, it will |
| 17:55.59 | kram | but it will be $99 |
| 17:56.02 | kram | so it will be an "okay deal" |
| 17:56.11 | kram | of course if you like IAX it's a great deal :) |
| 17:56.11 | Mike | kram: when? this year? |
| 17:56.15 | Mike | kram: 3months? |
| 17:56.17 | kram | prototypes will ship by xmas |
| 17:56.24 | kram | but you have to call greg and get on the list if you want one |
| 17:56.26 | kram | we have 100 prototypes |
| 17:56.27 | Moc | If we put it all together to asterisk-doc project, when Im sure we could have something up really quick |
| 17:56.38 | kram | i have a publisher looking for authors |
| 17:56.48 | kram | i tried to describe the asterisk-doc project to them and they seemed interested |
| 17:56.50 | Mike | kram: whos greg? |
| 17:56.55 | Mike | kram: whats the #? |
| 17:56.57 | jsmith | kram: Why don't you go ahead and send me the info... |
| 17:56.57 | kram | but i don't know who the contact is |
| 17:56.58 | Shido6_ | big "V" |
| 17:57.10 | kram | +1-256-428-6262 (or +1-700-428-6262 on iaxtel) |
| 17:57.10 | jsmith | kram: blitzrage and I are the ones doing #asterisk-doc |
| 17:57.20 | kram | jsmith: you want a publisher? :) |
| 17:58.04 | kram | or at least do you want to talk to one? |
| 17:58.09 | jsmith | kram: Well... I'd rather be the author! |
| 17:58.29 | jsmith | kram: Sure... it can't hurt. I don't know if they'll be interested in what we've done so far, but sure... send them my direction |
| 17:58.35 | kram | okay |
| 17:58.37 | kram | what's you e-mail? |
| 17:59.03 | jsmith | kram: I'll /msg you with it :-) |
| 17:59.40 | bevins | cool...I don't do much programming but I can spend lots of hours on documentation though. |
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| 18:00.29 | jsmith | bevins: Great! We'd appreciate any help you can give us with the project |
| 18:01.47 | lorenita | . |
| 18:02.21 | Exomorph | Wow... Like 4 new people joined #asterisk-doc |
| 18:02.27 | km- | hahaha |
| 18:03.05 | Exomorph | that would be 6 new people |
| 18:03.23 | Moc | Exomorph: I wanted to help in programming, but at my current stage of asterisk understanding, I better do alittle of documentation |
| 18:04.28 | Exomorph | Moc: Well thats the problem I had... I wanted to do lots of devel work for Asterisk, but there wasn't a good source to figure things out quickly. |
| 18:04.50 | Moc | yep, like a map where are what.. |
| 18:05.07 | Exomorph | hehe Exactly. |
| 18:05.16 | Moc | There should be a Visio map of asterisk (with function calling what ...) |
| 18:05.56 | Shido6_ | build one |
| 18:06.18 | Moc | someone who know it should make it... or make the Asterisk-dev-doc project !! |
| 18:07.41 | *** join/#asterisk BigBroth (~BigBrothe@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 18:08.04 | BigBroth | Evening all |
| 18:08.33 | BigBroth | With FWD being able to do this call local numbers in the Stats and Canada free over Christmas |
| 18:08.43 | glLoadIdentity | Moc: Asterisk inner -> micro men , plugging sockets to proper channel plugs, and some more men that translates the codecs |
| 18:08.57 | BigBroth | Has anybody manage to call fwd from Asterisk? |
| 18:09.09 | BigBroth | When I try I get an error message |
| 18:09.18 | Shido6_ | Bigbroth, yes |
| 18:09.37 | BigBroth | How can I (Or cant I) get Asterisk to make a call to fwd with my login details? |
| 18:10.00 | *** join/#asterisk NinjaE (eonbleu@user-1120cvq.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 18:10.32 | BigBroth | In my sip.conf file I have the folling lines |
| 18:10.44 | Exomorph | Moc: I have the appointment of doing the devel docs within the doc project. |
| 18:10.48 | BigBroth | [fwd.pulver.com] |
| 18:10.53 | BigBroth | type=friend |
| 18:11.01 | BigBroth | secret=************** |
| 18:11.06 | BigBroth | username=84855 |
| 18:11.08 | BigBroth | host=fwd.pulver.com |
| 18:11.12 | BigBroth | qualify=1000 |
| 18:11.12 | NinjaE | ill smash your face in |
| 18:11.39 | BigBroth | Am I missing something? |
| 18:12.24 | BigBroth | In the extenions.conf file I have |
| 18:12.28 | BigBroth | [fwd-out] |
| 18:12.30 | BigBroth | exten => _*1.,1,SetCIDName(${FWDUSERNAME}) |
| 18:12.34 | BigBroth | exten => _*1.,2,SetCallerID(${FWDUSERID}) |
| 18:12.38 | BigBroth | exten => _*1.,3,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:2}@fwd.pulver.com) |
| 18:12.40 | BigBroth | exten => _*1.,4,Playback(invalid) |
| 18:12.43 | BigBroth | exten => _*1.,5,Hangup |
| 18:13.12 | BigBroth | FWDUSERID=84855 |
| 18:13.17 | BigBroth | FWDUSERNAME=84855 |
| 18:13.23 | Mike | hey guys my normal phone rings on the house and my sip phone but when they answer the normal phone the sip phone still rings 2 times |
| 18:13.41 | Moc | Mike: got that also sometime |
| 18:13.44 | BigBroth | Shido6: Am I missing anything? |
| 18:14.05 | Shido6_ | did u register |
| 18:14.14 | BigBroth | Yes |
| 18:14.28 | BigBroth | If you call me on 84855 my phone rings at home |
| 18:14.36 | Shido6_ | 31101 u should get me |
| 18:15.11 | BigBroth | If you dial *15555555555 do you get the message from FWD that you have to have an account? |
| 18:16.20 | voidptr | ok |
| 18:17.39 | Shido6_ | stdby - |
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| 18:39.29 | km- | miaow |
| 18:40.00 | hmodes | wuff! |
| 18:40.16 | JerJer | meep meep |
| 18:40.20 | km- | welcome to the desert of the real |
| 18:40.29 | km- | .... open source pbx system! |
| 18:40.38 | hmodes | i dunno why but i wouldn't have expected this many people to have caught on yet |
| 18:40.49 | km- | jerjer, meet hmodes, a good friend of mine for many years |
| 18:41.02 | blitzrage | JerJer: are you going to write any documentation (or have links to documentation you have written for inclusion) into the asterisk doc project? |
| 18:41.03 | km- | hmodes, meet jerjer, resident asshole and all around good guy! :P |
| 18:41.17 | hmodes | hehe |
| 18:41.39 | km- | blitzrage: I'm about halfway done this enum documentation.. But I know I'm going to get ripped a new asshole by bkw, jeremy, shido, and just about anyone else who feels they've got a bone to pick.. :) |
| 18:41.49 | blitzrage | lol |
| 18:41.52 | blitzrage | yah I know what you mean :) |
| 18:42.01 | blitzrage | but if they don't like it, then can change it themselves! |
| 18:42.06 | blitzrage | hehe |
| 18:42.07 | km- | just like bushes health care plan |
| 18:42.12 | km- | some is better than nothing! |
| 18:42.42 | *** join/#asterisk Exomorph (Exomorph@134-9.bvcompuworks.com) |
| 18:45.53 | hmodes | hrmm, yeah so this registration thing |
| 18:46.25 | hmodes | unless something about the sip config changed, 12/18 seems to be b0rk, none of my phones register |
| 18:46.49 | voidptr | bork bork bork |
| 18:47.14 | hmodes | b0rkeyb0rk ferndyblurn |
| 18:47.19 | hmodes | sigh |
| 18:47.22 | voidptr | :P |
| 18:47.51 | *** join/#asterisk Hubguru (~Hubguru@ip68-14-121-33.no.no.cox.net) |
| 18:47.56 | km- | my cvs is old |
| 18:48.02 | km- | I think 12/15 |
| 18:48.24 | hmodes | hrmm, well that's newer then september, so i'll try that :) |
| 18:48.44 | km- | hmodes: bkw has the ring tone for 7960's from the show 24 |
| 18:48.45 | km- | it rocks |
| 18:48.49 | hmodes | i'm mostly just hoping for a fix to a ringback problem i'm too lazy to track down |
| 18:48.51 | blitzrage | mine was 12/07 until I updated last night |
| 18:48.52 | km- | it sounds like those really old NEC systems |
| 18:48.57 | hmodes | really? |
| 18:49.00 | hmodes | send to hmodes! |
| 18:49.05 | km- | yeah, lemme send it over aim |
| 18:49.17 | blitzrage | km-: you got MSN or ICQ? |
| 18:49.29 | hmodes | blitzrage: you have any cisco sip shit? |
| 18:49.39 | blitzrage | hmodes: nope, no cisco shit. |
| 18:49.44 | km- | blitzrage: yep, msn and ICQ |
| 18:49.52 | blitzrage | << poor telecom student, send hardware! |
| 18:49.55 | Mike | blitzrage: dude msn and icq why dont you ask her for the iaxtel number:P |
| 18:49.55 | Mike | ? |
| 18:50.02 | blitzrage | her? |
| 18:50.15 | km- | HER? |
| 18:50.18 | km- | dude I'm married |
| 18:50.19 | blitzrage | lol |
| 18:50.21 | km- | and male |
| 18:50.24 | blitzrage | lol |
| 18:50.32 | YoYo^ | pattern matching not work for callerid? exten => 100/_23XX,1,SomeApp() ? |
| 18:50.34 | Mike | sorry |
| 18:50.35 | Mike | :P |
| 18:50.39 | km- | BAH |
| 18:50.39 | km- | hehe |
| 18:50.44 | km- | he thought I was just an irritable bitch |
| 18:50.45 | km- | ;P |
| 18:50.45 | Mike | you know irc |
| 18:50.51 | JerJer | YoYo^: you try it? |
| 18:51.04 | Mike | if you type like a girl we cant know |
| 18:51.06 | Mike | :P |
| 18:51.06 | YoYo^ | yeah, but I'm not sure if it's supported or if I'm doing something wrong |
| 18:51.08 | Mike | hehehe |
| 18:51.09 | Mike | joke |
| 18:51.10 | Mike | :P |
| 18:51.10 | killerbee | I mean.. leave it in |
| 18:51.44 | Hubguru | hello |
| 18:52.12 | km- | BAH |
| 18:52.18 | km- | http://7960.fierymoon.com/24ctu.raw |
| 18:52.20 | Hubguru | guys, i'm having difficulty with voicemail to e-mail, |
| 18:52.20 | JerJer | nobody home |
| 18:52.20 | km- | all yall get it there |
| 18:52.23 | km- | my transfers suck |
| 18:52.47 | Hubguru | question, is there anything needing to be configured in sendmail |
| 18:52.50 | Hubguru | ? |
| 18:53.08 | km- | hmodes: urgh, I have to go to the harley dealer to get a gift certificate |
| 18:53.13 | km- | hmodes: I dont want to be skinned alive! |
| 18:53.19 | hmodes | hehe |
| 18:53.31 | km- | blitzrage: is 3+ pages too much for a single section? |
| 18:53.37 | blitzrage | no! |
| 18:53.42 | blitzrage | :) |
| 18:53.43 | km- | I'm at 3.5 |
| 18:53.47 | blitzrage | lol |
| 18:53.58 | JerJer | H.323 Documenation: Don't use it |
| 18:53.59 | km- | including configs and such |
| 18:54.01 | hmodes | w00t for speakeasy |
| 18:54.03 | km- | hahahaha |
| 18:54.05 | hmodes | j00r 2 subnets away :) |
| 18:54.10 | blitzrage | JerJer: lol :) |
| 18:54.10 | km- | hmodes: no way! |
| 18:54.11 | km- | hahaha |
| 18:54.17 | km- | hmodes: yum for CO linkage |
| 18:54.25 | blitzrage | JerJer: I don't :) But some people do, so I'd like to document it's usage. |
| 18:54.37 | km- | hmodes: I've got three statics -- they couldn't give them to me consecutively though :( |
| 18:54.41 | blitzrage | km-: the more documentation the better I figure. |
| 18:54.48 | *** join/#asterisk Rob-- (~robbie@haylott.plus.com) |
| 18:54.50 | km- | blitzrage: yeah, amen |
| 18:54.58 | Moc | cd ../libpri |
| 18:54.58 | Moc | make clean ; make install |
| 18:54.59 | km- | ok dudes, I'm going to go press my luck at harley davidson |
| 18:55.00 | Moc | sorry |
| 18:55.02 | km- | bbiafm |
| 18:55.05 | blitzrage | km-: just make sure it's not filler :) If it can be condensed, do so, if not, then that's cool. |
| 18:55.12 | km- | I'm pasting configs and stuff |
| 18:55.16 | km- | sample configs and all that |
| 18:55.19 | blitzrage | km-: perfect! |
| 18:55.23 | sxpert | km-: gonna buy a bike ? |
| 18:55.26 | Rob-- | Hi |
| 18:55.32 | blitzrage | km-: maybe I'll setup ENUM based on your docs :) |
| 18:55.32 | km- | sxpert: nah, getting my bro in law a gift certificate |
| 18:55.37 | sxpert | ah, heh |
| 18:55.38 | km- | I couldnt afford a bike :P |
| 18:55.48 | km- | blitzrage: as long as one person learns something, then it was all worth it! |
| 18:55.50 | killerbee | km- .. get one fer me too! |
| 18:55.53 | km- | hahaha |
| 18:55.56 | km- | SUREEE... |
| 18:55.57 | km- | :P |
| 18:56.01 | blitzrage | and me! |
| 18:56.04 | blitzrage | I deserve it |
| 18:56.05 | UnixDawg | Ba Humbug |
| 18:56.07 | blitzrage | honestly. |
| 18:56.13 | km- | geeks dont drive hogs |
| 18:56.17 | km- | :) |
| 18:56.17 | killerbee | I'll give ya root on one of my boxes |
| 18:56.21 | blitzrage | km-: good thing I'm not a geek :) |
| 18:56.22 | km- | killerbee: for a gift certificate? :P |
| 18:56.32 | UnixDawg | yes we do |
| 18:56.39 | UnixDawg | I have a 89 Fat Boy |
| 18:56.43 | km- | unix: rock on! |
| 18:56.56 | Moc | digium gift certificate... Would love to get that for christmas :) |
| 18:56.57 | killerbee | km- yeahh |
| 18:57.09 | blitzrage | I'd be happy with just a couple of Asterisk stickers :) |
| 18:57.12 | Rob-- | Does anyone here know how to stop asterisk from answering if another phone on the same line is picked up? I've got an x100p and would like to use it as a simple answering machine with phones plugged directly in to the line. |
| 18:57.16 | km- | hahaha |
| 18:57.18 | Moc | that also .. |
| 18:57.23 | killerbee | all the money your going to send to bkw_ send to me! |
| 18:57.27 | km- | bbiafm |
| 18:57.42 | UnixDawg | I bought mine and fixed it up it had body rust and needed engine work |
| 18:59.22 | UnixDawg | asterisk as a basic answering machine what a waste of * |
| 18:59.31 | sxpert | Moc: yeah, that's a neat idea... |
| 18:59.43 | sxpert | 200 USD off a card ;) |
| 19:00.05 | Moc | ha would get the 2 port to set it up for my home .. |
| 19:00.18 | Moc | 2 internal line .. |
| 19:00.27 | sxpert | with the USD crapped out as it is, the TE405P would only cost me about 1200 eur or so |
| 19:01.06 | Moc | My * Install script for RH9 : http://www.moctel.com/rh9-asterisk-install |
| 19:01.44 | *** join/#asterisk oej (~opr@apollo.webway.se) |
| 19:06.03 | JerJer | install script? |
| 19:06.09 | JerJer | why do you need a script? |
| 19:06.30 | hmodes | for the same reason people need rpms? |
| 19:06.48 | hmodes | e.g. rampant unbridled stupidity on the part of most of humanity |
| 19:06.57 | Moc | I make script of installtion process of everything I install on a system |
| 19:07.09 | JerJer | cvs co zaptel libpri asterisk && cd libpri && make install && cd../zaptel && make install && cd ../asterisk && make install |
| 19:07.18 | JerJer | one command line |
| 19:07.36 | Moc | so if it die, I run 1 script witch call others scripts witch install everything as quick as posible |
| 19:07.38 | *** join/#asterisk angler_ (~angler@24.214.255.57) |
| 19:07.38 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o angler_] by bkw_ |
| 19:08.10 | Rob-- | UnixDawg: The reason I want it this way is so that I don't effect the existing phones. I'll have one extension on an s100u, but I don't want to rewire everything. At the moment, * still answers the phone even if it has already been answered. |
| 19:08.16 | UnixDawg | hell I cant even get a iso for linux right now |
| 19:08.24 | Moc | UnixDawg: Redhat ? |
| 19:08.52 | UnixDawg | slackware |
| 19:08.59 | UnixDawg | is what I want to use |
| 19:09.09 | Moc | dont know about slackware... I installed it while ago and I hated it.. |
| 19:09.17 | Moc | I mean by that 3 year ago |
| 19:09.23 | UnixDawg | but every site I go to times out or is not offering |
| 19:09.53 | UnixDawg | 9.0 we have oncampus but I dont want to drive to campus today\ |
| 19:09.57 | hmodes | grrr |
| 19:10.00 | Moc | ftp://ftp.telus.net/pub/redhat/linux/9/en/iso/i386/ |
| 19:10.04 | Moc | get redhat !! |
| 19:10.06 | hmodes | this is quite annoying |
| 19:10.13 | Moc | or debian |
| 19:10.32 | UnixDawg | it has to fit on a 520 meg drive |
| 19:10.38 | Moc | will fit.. |
| 19:10.39 | UnixDawg | and slack I can make fit |
| 19:11.12 | Moc | not alot of freespace and swap.. but.. |
| 19:11.19 | hmodes | i have 9.1 if you want it ud |
| 19:11.43 | UnixDawg | yes pls |
| 19:12.07 | UnixDawg | I am on cable so it should go fast |
| 19:12.52 | hmodes | gimme a min |
| 19:13.45 | UnixDawg | k |
| 19:14.53 | Hubguru | guys, i'm having difficulty with voicemail to e-mail, is there a sendmail conf that must be done? |
| 19:15.31 | UnixDawg | are you sending out to aol accounts or a local account |
| 19:15.43 | sxpert | lol, aol accounts |
| 19:16.19 | UnixDawg | i know that if you send to aol or earthlink or some ext mail service they reject dynamic ip mail servers |
| 19:16.46 | UnixDawg | if for local you just have to put the useres email in the vmail.conf |
| 19:16.53 | UnixDawg | and it should work fine |
| 19:17.00 | Cripon | they just don't allow you to use any smtp server but theirs |
| 19:17.11 | hmodes | http://matrix.gs/slack/slackware-9.1-install-d1.iso |
| 19:17.23 | hmodes | d2 also, and the .asc/.md5s are there if you want 'em |
| 19:19.10 | Cripon | so if you're provider is say earthlink, you can't send you mail out through mail.digium.com You can receive it from there fine, but it has to go out through smtp.earthlink.net |
| 19:19.56 | UnixDawg | I got a new Athlon 3000 for christmas so I am going to reload this cyrix 600/256/6gig and make it a pbx box |
| 19:22.16 | ciego34 | he any one know how find what canadian company is runing a system on 1 646 539 9007 number???? |
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| 19:23.18 | ciego34 | where to search for DID owner |
| 19:24.22 | *** join/#asterisk shon (~shon@00045ae831d2.click-network.com) |
| 19:24.30 | JerJer | LERG |
| 19:25.09 | ciego34 | ??? |
| 19:25.24 | killerbee | 646... New York area code... |
| 19:25.43 | killerbee | ciego34 ... how about call them and ask |
| 19:26.06 | ciego34 | there only a recording there |
| 19:26.15 | killerbee | calling |
| 19:26.20 | ciego34 | asking for pin number |
| 19:27.01 | killerbee | ciego34 lol |
| 19:27.14 | killerbee | does not like me |
| 19:27.38 | ciego34 | need to know who is runing this calling card systemn |
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| 19:28.07 | killerbee | dont recall how to look up who owns the 800 |
| 19:29.02 | ciego34 | only know this number... i receive a call from a call system with this DID |
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| 19:31.17 | Rob-- | Does anyone here know how to stop asterisk from answering if another phone on the same line is picked up? I've got an x100p and would like to use it as a simple answering machine with phones plugged directly in to the line. |
| 19:35.01 | ciego34 | Area Code: 646 |
| 19:35.02 | ciego34 | Prefix: 539 |
| 19:35.02 | ciego34 | Location: MANHATTAN (UPPER) |
| 19:35.02 | ciego34 | Other Info: CLEC |
| 19:36.14 | ciego34 | any online phone guide for 1 646 539 XXXX area??? |
| 19:37.11 | JerJer | what more do you want? that looks like a basic report from Lerg |
| 19:41.53 | killerbee | JerJer he wants to know who operates is |
| 19:42.02 | killerbee | err operates it |
| 19:42.27 | km- | hmodes: wawa has gift cards now! |
| 19:43.07 | hmodes | yeah i saw that |
| 19:43.15 | hmodes | i'm gonna be pissed if i don't get any :) |
| 19:43.17 | JerJer | CLEC |
| 19:43.18 | km- | hehehe "Here, have $30 worth of coffeee!" |
| 19:43.35 | km- | hmodes: hahaha, why didnt you say you wanted one! I was just there! ARGH! :P |
| 19:43.35 | hmodes | damnit, now i want coffee |
| 19:43.43 | killerbee | WHoooohhaaaa .. only 5 days till xmas |
| 19:43.56 | hmodes | it should be illegal how far the closest wawa is from me |
| 19:43.56 | killerbee | I better get off my arsse and do some xmas shopping |
| 19:44.08 | km- | I think it is illegal closer to philly |
| 19:44.11 | hmodes | like, someone needs to pass a law that there has to be a wawa every 2 miles or something |
| 19:44.31 | km- | hmodes: I think there's 1 wawa for every 300 residents per municipality down here |
| 19:44.39 | hmodes | hehe |
| 19:44.42 | ciego34 | JerJer> is the owner of this DID??? |
| 19:44.42 | ciego34 | CLEC |
| 19:44.56 | km- | hmodes: they've opened super wawa's down in frazer all over the place -- and now there's a super wawa going in at the corner of 63 and 202 |
| 19:44.56 | YoYo^ | 3 * boxes. 1 has a switch into 2, 2 has a switch into 3. but I can't reach the dialplan on the 3rd from the 1st. any ideas? |
| 19:44.58 | hmodes | mmm, super wawa |
| 19:45.18 | km- | super wawa, where the gas is so friggin cheap because they rape you on the coffee! |
| 19:45.27 | *** join/#asterisk atacomm (atacomm@206.230.56.197) |
| 19:45.32 | hmodes | hehe |
| 19:45.58 | hmodes | hrmm, i have to go to walmart (ugh) |
| 19:46.06 | hmodes | but wawa is near walmart! |
| 19:46.36 | killerbee | atacomm get my wisip yet? |
| 19:46.48 | atacomm | havent gotten a single one |
| 19:46.58 | killerbee | ahhh crap |
| 19:47.07 | killerbee | when is jeff going to ship them... |
| 19:47.41 | Stealth_Man | killer: are u us based ? |
| 19:48.07 | killerbee | yeah.. but I will be shipping them to canada.. |
| 19:48.11 | atacomm | dont know, jeff doesnt return calls |
| 19:48.11 | Stealth_Man | :)) |
| 19:48.14 | Stealth_Man | nice move |
| 19:48.16 | Stealth_Man | ;-) |
| 19:48.29 | atacomm | jeff's alot like chagres |
| 19:48.35 | Stealth_Man | ohhhh |
| 19:48.36 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 19:49.43 | atacomm | anyone know of a cheap dual-DVI card I can get? fucking NVidia's GeForce 2 Ultra had two outputs (DVI and VGA) but now that I got a second LCD I find that it wont drive two seperate outputs.....its like fucking A, even the 2 MX could do two displays |
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| 19:50.56 | killerbee | sxpert.. me too~ |
| 19:51.04 | atacomm | stealth; hurry up with those checks....Digium took money off the wrong card, and when $3k comes out of your checking account unexpectidly you dont really know for sure if everything will clear |
| 19:51.19 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: I willl kill you |
| 19:51.56 | atacomm | kill nancy, she lied to my face about shipping same day, and then when she said she understood which card to charge, she didnt charge the amex, she used my debit card which was previously on file |
| 19:51.59 | rollergrrl | killing people is not nice |
| 19:51.59 | Moc | I'll wait for monday to get my card finaly Stealth_Man... Kind of hard for me to get it today ... |
| 19:52.49 | Stealth_Man | atacomm: don;t make check bounced I will come to you |
| 19:52.54 | atacomm | i gave mark a little bit of complaining this morning |
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| 19:53.12 | atacomm | stealth: i think it will clear, i did the math on all known outstanding checks, i'm just saying hurry up and cash it |
| 19:53.14 | Stealth_Man | Moc: i think it is gold inside package :))) 15.5 lb |
| 19:53.28 | Stealth_Man | it is nthe bank and will be available on 24th only |
| 19:53.31 | rollergrrl | cxzv |
| 19:53.43 | atacomm | hmm, ok |
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| 19:53.47 | atacomm | hasnt shown up in mine yet |
| 19:53.51 | Stealth_Man | they never saw your bank ... |
| 19:54.03 | Moc | hehe ... |
| 19:54.07 | Stealth_Man | or Chase Manhhattan is so stupied |
| 19:54.17 | atacomm | lol, US Bank is a big bank |
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| 19:54.42 | loko_moko | who do you guys have your merchant accounts thru |
| 19:54.53 | Stealth_Man | MOC: no probl... good that it arrived to Montreal |
| 19:54.53 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 19:55.29 | Moc | yep... did I told you my pocketpc I ordered is finally backorder.. so I wont get it until first or second week of january !!#@$%#$^ |
| 19:55.43 | Stealth_Man | ohhh Moc .. .you see you are lucky one :))) |
| 19:55.58 | Moc | !!! yea .. |
| 19:56.01 | Stealth_Man | ehhh |
| 19:56.07 | Stealth_Man | not in Stealth case ;-) |
| 19:56.12 | Moc | got the x100p also underway with no tracking number.. |
| 19:56.18 | loko_moko | i need to find a new merchant account since my current one is screwing me telling me i need to make a 2nd account with them to accept phoen orders |
| 19:56.30 | Stealth_Man | loko: why is that ? |
| 19:56.32 | Moc | ccbill loko_moko ? |
| 19:56.41 | loko_moko | no idea |
| 19:56.46 | loko_moko | the bank is being a dick |
| 19:57.02 | loko_moko | my rate is decent though, 2.17 %, 30 cent tran |
| 19:57.09 | Moc | yea |
| 19:57.16 | loko_moko | but they wont let me do phone orders without making a 2nd account |
| 19:57.19 | loko_moko | so i need to change banks |
| 19:57.31 | Stealth_Man | hmmm 2.17% is good rate |
| 19:57.38 | loko_moko | yea |
| 19:57.45 | loko_moko | and i pay $10 / month for authorize.net gateway |
| 19:57.52 | loko_moko | $10 / month statement |
| 19:58.09 | JerJer | sounds like the typcial nickel and dime shit |
| 19:58.12 | Stealth_Man | authorize looks ok ... |
| 19:58.19 | loko_moko | who do you use? |
| 19:58.24 | atacomm | loko: i had one do that to me for selling phones with a web hosting merchant account.....cost me hundreds in fees |
| 19:58.35 | Stealth_Man | we have Card Service International I think |
| 19:58.45 | loko_moko | i mean what gateway does it use |
| 19:58.54 | loko_moko | if its not authorize |
| 19:59.39 | Stealth_Man | loko: i don;t really know, it is not my part ... :) |
| 20:02.13 | loko_moko | oh ok |
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| 20:13.20 | Cripon | anyone using vonage? |
| 20:15.28 | km- | hahaha |
| 20:15.34 | Cripon | :) |
| 20:15.44 | Cripon | how do you like it? |
| 20:16.06 | hmodes | it's pretty decent |
| 20:16.44 | Stealth_Man | cripon: use xvoip, forget vonage :) |
| 20:16.54 | km- | xvoip, aka, the service that doesnt really exist |
| 20:16.55 | km- | :P |
| 20:17.00 | Cripon | you don't have a stake in xvoip do you Stealth? |
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| 20:17.12 | km- | not except for his majority shareholder ownership |
| 20:17.21 | Stealth_Man | hahhaha |
| 20:17.30 | Cripon | hmodes: can you transfer and release calls externally with vonage? |
| 20:18.06 | hmodes | transfer works just fine, yeah |
| 20:18.27 | hmodes | it's actually sortof a 'bug' the way it works currently imho |
| 20:18.46 | Cripon | see the SIP Motto eh? |
| 20:18.53 | hmodes | hehe, yeah |
| 20:19.13 | hmodes | but it's a bug in the favor of the customers 'cause you can connect two friends for free and shtuff |
| 20:19.19 | hmodes | or at least, you could last time i checked |
| 20:21.02 | Cripon | is the quality always good? WHat type of access do you have? How does it do on your bandwidth? |
| 20:21.29 | hmodes | i'd say slightly better then cellphone |
| 20:21.36 | km- | Your mail to 'Asterisk-Doc' with the subject |
| 20:21.36 | km- | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.36 | km- | Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. |
| 20:21.38 | km- | erm |
| 20:21.51 | hmodes | (including occasional dropouts) |
| 20:22.26 | hmodes | they do g729 726 and pcm, so 10ish 50is and 90ishkbit respectively |
| 20:23.07 | km- | dropouts? |
| 20:23.10 | km- | nufone doesnt drop out! |
| 20:23.10 | km- | :P |
| 20:23.34 | hmodes | feh, everything drops out occasionally |
| 20:23.44 | hmodes | it's just a matter of whether you're there to notice it or not |
| 20:23.49 | hmodes | read: bgp happens |
| 20:24.27 | rollergrrl | can you fax over vonage? |
| 20:24.39 | km- | ugh, fax in asterisk baad |
| 20:24.41 | km- | hehe |
| 20:24.44 | hmodes | works fine for me at 9600bps |
| 20:24.49 | JerJer | rollergrrl: if you pay them, sure |
| 20:24.55 | hmodes | but 10+ page and 14k is pushing it |
| 20:25.28 | hmodes | nah, you don't have to have the +10 fax line bs |
| 20:25.38 | hmodes | it works on the normal lines |
| 20:26.11 | hmodes | fax on voip isn't the most spectacularly stable thing in the world tho |
| 20:26.27 | bkw_ | voice on voip in some situations isn't the most stable thing either |
| 20:26.33 | JerJer | hmodes: i've got the ATA186s workin resonably well |
| 20:26.33 | hmodes | hehe, very true |
| 20:26.46 | hmodes | my biggest issue is my damn replaytv |
| 20:27.06 | hmodes | it generally can't stay connected long enough to get a full guide |
| 20:27.11 | bkw_ | who wrote retrieve_sip_conf_from_mysql.pl |
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| 20:28.23 | bkw_ | KNOCK KNOCK is this thing on? |
| 20:28.38 | bkw_ | w00t |
| 20:28.42 | bkw_ | it works |
| 20:28.52 | bkw_ | I wrote a script to import sip.conf into the database |
| 20:29.02 | dant | evening |
| 20:29.07 | YoYo^ | cool stuffs bkw |
| 20:29.19 | bkw_ | I was not about to put 100+ sip.conf entries in by hand |
| 20:29.21 | bkw_ | FUCK THAT |
| 20:29.49 | km- | I wrote a C app that added my SIP entries for me :P |
| 20:29.57 | bkw_ | to the conf file? |
| 20:29.58 | bkw_ | or the database? |
| 20:30.00 | km- | bkw: let me know when odbc sip.conf is done |
| 20:30.02 | km- | to the conf file |
| 20:30.08 | bkw_ | oh thats nothing |
| 20:30.12 | km- | bkw: btw, I just finished some enum documentation for asterisk-doc |
| 20:30.17 | bkw_ | kewl |
| 20:30.18 | km- | bkw: I showcased odbcget :) |
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| 20:30.30 | bkw_ | kewl now that that fucker works right |
| 20:30.33 | bkw_ | haha |
| 20:30.38 | km- | hehehe |
| 20:30.40 | loko_moko | what do i need to put 20 channels of a PRI into a * box, and then 4 channels into a separate box |
| 20:30.50 | bkw_ | loko_moko DACS |
| 20:30.53 | km- | loko: a TE410P? |
| 20:31.02 | bkw_ | you pipe em all into one port |
| 20:31.07 | bkw_ | and out the other port using DACS |
| 20:31.10 | bkw_ | to another box |
| 20:31.15 | loko_moko | ok |
| 20:31.20 | loko_moko | how much is a DACS thing |
| 20:32.47 | loko_moko | i guess i can just pipe them all into 1 * box and use another * box to access some channels |
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| 20:33.40 | bkw_ | good lord |
| 20:33.43 | bkw_ | who did he think he was |
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| 20:33.49 | bkw_ | [[C][O][L](NoHost@pool-138-89-176-227.mad.east.verizon.net)] i came from other server just lookin for one thing |
| 20:33.49 | bkw_ | [[C][O][L](NoHost@pool-138-89-176-227.mad.east.verizon.net)] can u help me out? |
| 20:33.52 | bkw_ | [msg([C][O][L])] what do you need? |
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| 20:33.58 | bkw_ | [[C][O][L](NoHost@pool-138-89-176-227.mad.east.verizon.net)] im looking for the Spybot 1.2 software u know where can i get |
| 20:33.59 | bkw_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.06 | bkw_ | dont know why that jerk was asking me |
| 20:34.07 | Stealth_Man | LOL |
| 20:34.09 | hmodes | ... |
| 20:34.17 | bkw_ | but he wasn't gonna stay in here long.. spybot my ass |
| 20:34.33 | Stealth_Man | bkw: it was your client, which you fired yesterday ... :)))) |
| 20:34.36 | bkw_ | ~meep #asterisk |
| 20:34.40 | YoYo^ | bkw, wanna help me with a switch problem? |
| 20:34.45 | bkw_ | YoYo^ I can try |
| 20:34.52 | bkw_ | but you do realize their is a switch => bug right now |
| 20:34.54 | roger1 | does IAXTEL still support free 800 number calls to the Netherlands? |
| 20:35.08 | km- | bkw: dude |
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| 20:35.10 | royk_home | switch == bug? |
| 20:35.14 | YoYo^ | ok, at home, zap/2 goes into a context that only has a switch to my * box in the office |
| 20:35.16 | km- | bkw: spybot 1.2 is a program to remove spyware |
| 20:35.21 | km- | :P |
| 20:35.24 | km- | we run it at work |
| 20:35.30 | YoYo^ | this works fine, but only if I don't switch from the office to my colo * box |
| 20:35.31 | km- | damned receptionists keep downloading bonzibuddy |
| 20:35.33 | bkw_ | km- yes but why was this person jumping in here and asking me this? |
| 20:35.39 | bkw_ | he didn' tknow me |
| 20:35.41 | bkw_ | I didn't know him |
| 20:35.41 | royk_home | roger1: I seriously doubt that |
| 20:35.49 | km- | bkw: maybe he was about to introduce himself as a possible threesome candidate? |
| 20:35.52 | km- | bkw: icebreaker! |
| 20:35.58 | bkw_ | YoYo you can't do circular switches |
| 20:36.06 | bkw_ | are you pointing the switches at eachother? |
| 20:36.11 | YoYo^ | no |
| 20:36.24 | bkw_ | let me see this bug |
| 20:36.34 | YoYo^ | home => office => colo |
| 20:36.51 | bkw_ | http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000681 |
| 20:37.01 | bkw_ | I think that is the bug your getting bit by |
| 20:37.04 | royk_home | let me see the bug.. let me see the LIGHT! |
| 20:37.15 | bkw_ | SIP -> *(1) -> IAX2 -> *(2) -> IAX2 |
| 20:37.15 | YoYo^ | ah |
| 20:37.26 | bkw_ | Martin is workin on it |
| 20:37.54 | YoYo^ | cool |
| 20:38.11 | bkw_ | so you didn't spend much time beating head on desk on that one did ya? |
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| 20:38.26 | dant | he doesn't give up |
| 20:38.29 | bkw_ | haha |
| 20:38.33 | bkw_ | warn that channel |
| 20:38.33 | royk_home | switch => exten? |
| 20:38.47 | bkw_ | royk no the switch => statment |
| 20:39.06 | bkw_ | allows a remote * box to see your dialplan and resolve destinations with it |
| 20:39.09 | royk_home | is there a 'switch' statement? |
| 20:39.22 | bkw_ | haha ya in C |
| 20:39.24 | royk_home | oh |
| 20:39.33 | YoYo^ | ;switch => ${ROANOKE}/outgoing |
| 20:39.41 | voidptr | :PPPP |
| 20:40.01 | YoYo^ | exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(${ROANOKE}/${EXTEN}) |
| 20:40.15 | YoYo^ | I'd rather have the switch, but the exten works fine |
| 20:40.23 | JerJer | YoYo^: that doesn't make much sense |
| 20:40.41 | YoYo^ | which? |
| 20:41.08 | JerJer | switch => IAX2/user:secret@host/context |
| 20:41.33 | YoYo^ | yeah... that's the variable's contents =D |
| 20:41.52 | dant | after having lots of fun with switch =>, I just slapped in a exten => _XXXX.,1,Dial instead |
| 20:42.05 | JerJer | mkay |
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| 20:43.29 | YoYo^ | this works in every context, as long as the call isn't switched in from another * box: |
| 20:43.29 | YoYo^ | Alt. Switch => 'IAX2/pulaski@roanoke/outgoing' |
| 20:43.47 | royk_home | seems to me a bad idea to allow another * server to see any dialplan. wouldn't it be better to just create a routing protocol in IAX? |
| 20:43.50 | YoYo^ | so it's the re-switching bug that someone already foujnd |
| 20:44.01 | JerJer | royk_home: there is one |
| 20:44.28 | royk_home | JerJer: how can you use that? and then, what's the reason for this switch =>?? |
| 20:44.59 | YoYo^ | I'd assume that the switch statement is for trusted systems |
| 20:45.21 | YoYo^ | like, in the nufone config, you switch to nufone's servers. you're trusting their dialplan (though you can't see it) |
| 20:45.32 | royk_home | still, a good routing protocol, like OSPF or something, would probably do better |
| 20:45.47 | hmodes | ... |
| 20:46.12 | dant | royk_home, so effectively broadcasting the dialplan to everyone rather than just fetching it when needed? |
| 20:46.27 | JerJer | ENUM |
| 20:46.34 | YoYo^ | yeah, I was going to say |
| 20:46.46 | royk_home | dant: not nessecarily broadcasting it. we're not talking fscking RIP1 here |
| 20:47.06 | YoYo^ | ok, not broadcasting |
| 20:47.07 | YoYo^ | announcing |
| 20:47.15 | JerJer | TRIP |
| 20:47.43 | dant | royk_home, fine, multicast, announce, whatever terminology you want, but either way, you're potentially sending out a lot more information then you would normally |
| 20:47.44 | YoYo^ | LOL |
| 20:47.57 | cypromis | TRIP is bloody complex |
| 20:48.16 | cypromis | and would in reality only make sense if it is tremendous amounts of nodes |
| 20:48.49 | royk_home | dant: giving you've encrypted it, and/or all connections are authenticated, so what? that's what happens on the internet! |
| 20:49.06 | YoYo^ | if it's local, make an extension. If it's not local, then lookup enum. If it's not in enum, send it to your carrier (iax/sip/pstn/whatever) |
| 20:49.07 | dant | I do think that something similar to OSPF would be good in certain situations, e.g. a large enterprise with 50 offices globally and a large number of PBXs, then, it would probably be very useful... |
| 20:49.28 | cypromis | dant: still enum could handle that |
| 20:49.34 | cypromis | and it's much less complex to use |
| 20:50.06 | JerJer | yeah ENUM rules |
| 20:50.25 | YoYo^ | 50 global offices... in a situation like that, you don't even need enum. you just create a private dialplan. NX-XXX |
| 20:50.30 | JerJer | i've deployed a three office system using ENUM |
| 20:50.31 | dant | cypromis, possibly/probably... not really looked much into enum yet, not much use to me here atm |
| 20:51.08 | YoYo^ | s/dialplan/numbering plan |
| 20:51.24 | JerJer | ENUM is not just for normal telephone numbers, ya know |
| 20:51.30 | dant | I just have fun in the office with the effective static routes we have between all our avaya PBXs |
| 20:51.33 | YoYo^ | true =D |
| 20:51.50 | peter_grace | hmodes: everyone thinks I'm a girl! |
| 20:52.04 | dant | peter_grace, called peter? |
| 20:52.21 | Stealth_Man | LOL |
| 20:52.23 | km- | you can call me pete or peter or km |
| 20:52.23 | hmodes | hehe |
| 20:52.45 | cypromis | enum absolutely rocks |
| 20:53.00 | DirtyPete | cypromis: blitzrage is adding my enum docs to the doc project as we speak! |
| 20:53.01 | cypromis | even in really complex asterisk scenarios with multiple interconnects and complex LCR |
| 20:53.05 | cypromis | ha |
| 20:53.06 | cypromis | rocks |
| 20:53.07 | cypromis | :) |
| 20:53.10 | DirtyPete | cypromis: read it over and add to it |
| 20:53.11 | JerJer | *.2 IN NAPTR 100 10 "u" "E2U+X-IAX2" "!^\\+(.*)$!iax2:south-1/\\1!" . |
| 20:53.31 | JerJer | *.3 IN NAPTR 100 10 "u" "E2U+X-IAX2" "!^\\+(.*)$!iax2:lansing-main/\\1!". |
| 20:54.09 | JerJer | *.4 IN NAPTR 100 10 "u" E2U+X-IAX2" "!^\\+(.*)$!iax2:lansing-broker/\\1!". |
| 20:54.22 | blitzrage[doc_in | flood! :) |
| 20:54.23 | JerJer | so someone dials 405 it goes to lansing-broker |
| 20:54.30 | dant | not as 'easy' as 'redistribute connected' ;) |
| 20:54.36 | JerJer | or 201 it will go to south-1 |
| 20:54.43 | JerJer | and so on |
| 20:54.53 | cypromis | dant: redistribute connected would blow up on redundancy |
| 20:55.04 | cypromis | 2 or more *'s connected to same path |
| 20:55.25 | cypromis | I rather do my stuff with a least cost algorithm and than dump it into tinydns |
| 20:55.38 | YoYo^ | redistrubte connected... I can see it now... 98723987928374 routes to Zap/1 |
| 20:55.40 | cypromis | or whatever dns daemon you prefer |
| 20:55.57 | dant | YoYo^, lol |
| 20:56.32 | dant | cypromis, I'm not sure it should blow up on redundancy... |
| 20:57.46 | JerJer | cypromis: can u throw tinydns records into a db? |
| 20:58.19 | jtodd | trip, trip, trip. RFC3129 |
| 20:58.26 | jtodd | errr... 3219. |
| 20:58.56 | JerJer | jtodd: i've been pondering implementing it |
| 20:59.00 | bkw_ | jtodd whats up |
| 20:59.16 | new_user | if incoming calls are picked up by a receptionist, how can he transfer the call to the proper person or transfer to voice mail? |
| 20:59.40 | jtodd | JerJer: the more I think about it, the more it needs to be a standalone that * can talk with via an AGI or application interface, and less an *-specific implementation. |
| 20:59.42 | JerJer | using the transfer button on your 7960 |
| 20:59.57 | bkw_ | ya that transfer button rocks |
| 20:59.58 | JerJer | jtodd: TripLookup |
| 20:59.59 | new_user | 7960 what and how much? |
| 21:00.15 | JerJer | sorta simular to EnumLookup |
| 21:00.29 | jtodd | JerJer: Yeah. Maybe with (as discussed before) an ENUM reply as an interim kludge for gear that doesn't speak TRIP or have easily-hackable API's. |
| 21:00.30 | new_user | and will it show of who is currently on their phone? |
| 21:00.57 | cypromis | JerJer: Ica n use a patched tinydns and have it talk to a db yes |
| 21:01.59 | JerJer | hmm |
| 21:02.21 | JerJer | i've never been a big fan of bind, but couldn't find anything better out there |
| 21:04.19 | bkw_ | man oh man oh man |
| 21:04.58 | cypromis | ok |
| 21:05.42 | YoYo^ | bkw, what you so excited about? |
| 21:05.49 | bkw_ | just because |
| 21:05.53 | YoYo^ | haha |
| 21:05.55 | bkw_ | why should I not be/ |
| 21:05.59 | YoYo^ | dunno |
| 21:07.35 | bkw_ | I just feel like i'm accomplishing stuff |
| 21:07.36 | bkw_ | :) |
| 21:08.05 | YoYo^ | hehe, I feel the same way |
| 21:08.27 | YoYo^ | I need to test sip and zap, but I think I've got my dialplan complete and technology independant |
| 21:09.09 | Tekati | Brian if you want to accomplish something figure out why we cant use the *1<AREACODE><PHONE> with FWD. |
| 21:09.18 | bkw_ | what device? |
| 21:09.36 | hmodes | Tekati: they're intentionally blocking multi-hop access |
| 21:09.38 | Tekati | TDM40B -> * -> FWD |
| 21:09.50 | hmodes | the service is only offered to endpoints directly connected to fwd |
| 21:09.54 | bkw_ | FWD = crackpipe.. now please extract your lips from the crack pipe |
| 21:10.04 | royk_home | bkw_: http://www.bash.org/?99060 |
| 21:10.14 | Tekati | I guess. That solved it for me. Thanks hmodes. |
| 21:10.28 | hmodes | you might want to try using canreinvite=no |
| 21:10.29 | Tekati | Did you find that at some official source? |
| 21:10.31 | hmodes | that might get around it |
| 21:10.38 | hmodes | straight from pulver's mouth on dslreports |
| 21:10.59 | Tekati | I am using a TDM40B port so it does not reinvite anyway. |
| 21:11.15 | hmodes | oh, weird |
| 21:11.32 | hmodes | i would think that would work unless they're doing something specifically targetted at blocking * |
| 21:11.37 | hmodes | which i would if I was them |
| 21:11.40 | Tekati | I can do it with er um eh hmmm X-Lite but that is pointless. |
| 21:12.06 | hmodes | xlite can do local conferencing can't it? |
| 21:12.19 | hmodes | dial * and the fwd # from xlite and conf :) |
| 21:12.30 | hmodes | or maybe that's just xpro |
| 21:12.36 | Tekati | It is more like we are not authenticating on the outbound call to them. But I do not know enough to make a educated guess. |
| 21:12.47 | Tekati | Now that is an interesting idea if only for the fun of it. |
| 21:12.49 | Tekati | Hehe. |
| 21:13.07 | hmodes | well i get the user offline when i try to do sip -> * -> fwd |
| 21:13.49 | hmodes | i think i have an xpro private build some dumbass sip provider posted for public download somewhere |
| 21:13.56 | hmodes | if it doesn't work in lite |
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| 21:14.14 | wsuff[afk] | ya only pro handles conf |
| 21:14.37 | wsuff[afk] | i have a 30 day trial for it atm |
| 21:14.37 | Tekati | I just figured that out but it would have worked. |
| 21:14.40 | Tekati | Not the best way and only fun for testing but interesting. |
| 21:14.56 | Tekati | I get a message that says that you have to be a FWD subscriber to use that service. |
| 21:15.10 | Tekati | You may be dialing wrong if you are getting the user is unavailable message. |
| 21:15.41 | hmodes | eh, i only played around with it for a couple minutes before i saw the post from jeff |
| 21:15.46 | hmodes | works great from 7960 tho ;p |
| 21:16.55 | bkw_ | I LOVE VOIP! |
| 21:17.04 | hmodes | hellz fucking yeah |
| 21:17.05 | zigman | i hate it :P |
| 21:17.06 | zigman | ;) |
| 21:17.08 | YoYo^ | that was /so/ much better than when I was using SIP |
| 21:17.25 | bkw_ | i'm going to get my hands on some IAXy's when they come out |
| 21:17.29 | bkw_ | I love toyz |
| 21:17.30 | YoYo^ | now to bully kram into putting a low bandwidth codec on the iaxy |
| 21:17.30 | okrumm | is jtodd here? |
| 21:17.38 | bkw_ | YoYo the g726 is 32k |
| 21:17.38 | hmodes | mmm, toys |
| 21:17.41 | jtodd | Speak and I shall apper. |
| 21:17.43 | jtodd | appear, even. |
| 21:18.01 | YoYo^ | eaxy is 1 channel only, right? |
| 21:18.08 | bkw_ | oh grand one... please appear before us! |
| 21:18.13 | bkw_ | YoYo^ yes |
| 21:18.21 | jtodd | Do not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain or keyboard. |
| 21:18.25 | okrumm | hello jtodd i've seen your page (http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/current/) and from within these pages you have iax.conf |
| 21:18.38 | jtodd | okrumm: Indeed, I do. |
| 21:18.38 | bkw_ | jtodd you get that keyboard debuged? |
| 21:18.52 | YoYo^ | welp, enough * for one day... time for some counter-strike |
| 21:18.53 | bkw_ | :P |
| 21:18.57 | bkw_ | GAMES |
| 21:18.59 | bkw_ | WHAT? |
| 21:19.03 | bkw_ | pfft |
| 21:19.07 | jtodd | bkw: No, they're frickin' tiny little ants or something. All over the damn place since it got "chilly" outside, they decided inside was a better place to be. |
| 21:19.16 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 21:19.24 | bkw_ | hope they dont start to breed in your laptop |
| 21:19.28 | okrumm | jtodd: I've also set my iax.conf very similiar to the one you have, but if i use a iax client behind nat it won't sign in. have you had this problem? |
| 21:19.50 | jtodd | okrumm: Nope, NAT works fine. Are you familiar with tcpdump or tethereal? |
| 21:20.07 | okrumm | not much, but what can i do= |
| 21:20.08 | bkw_ | ... Topic (#routing): changed by dag_: <troy_> OMFG! I can't BELIEVE that people actually fucking use linux! |
| 21:20.12 | bkw_ | troy = YoYo |
| 21:20.31 | bkw_ | haha |
| 21:20.32 | okrumm | jtodd: what do you suggest? |
| 21:21.22 | hmodes | oy, time to be oof to walmart |
| 21:21.26 | hmodes | this should be a sucktastic adventure |
| 21:22.28 | bkw_ | haha |
| 21:22.32 | jtodd | okrumm: Find out the "outside" address of your NAT. In other words, what is the IP address that * would "see" making the requests. |
| 21:22.39 | new_user | what are the best ip phones to use with asterisk, some snom model? |
| 21:24.01 | jtodd | okrumm: then, on your asterisk server, type "tcpdump host x.y.z.a" where x.y.z.a is the NAT'ed IP address of the remote IAX peer. |
| 21:24.36 | jtodd | okrumm: I would also suggest launching asterisk with "asterisk -vvvvvvvvgcd" while you debug, as the output of that method of launching * gives debug information. |
| 21:24.37 | JerJer | new_user_ 7960 |
| 21:25.08 | jtodd | I agree with JerJer: the 7960 is the nicest phone at the moment, even though it has some different features from the SNOM. |
| 21:25.30 | loko_moko | 7970 <G> |
| 21:25.32 | bkw_ | haha |
| 21:25.34 | bkw_ | I wish |
| 21:25.36 | bkw_ | over priced |
| 21:25.40 | bkw_ | WAY over priced |
| 21:25.41 | loko_moko | yup |
| 21:25.46 | okrumm | thanks jtodd |
| 21:25.53 | jtodd | Nobody said anything about price, just "best". |
| 21:26.00 | bkw_ | you would think cisco still thinks this is the dot com instead of the dot bomb age |
| 21:26.02 | jtodd | greets, kram. |
| 21:26.08 | kram | greets |
| 21:26.17 | new_user | what is the best reasonably priced ip phone :) |
| 21:26.22 | jtodd | bkw: but you'll note that I still use and buy 79xx hardware, so it must somehow make the cut. :-) |
| 21:26.24 | bkw_ | Cisco 7905 |
| 21:26.24 | JerJer | 7960 |
| 21:26.30 | bkw_ | JerJer the 7905 is nice |
| 21:26.41 | bkw_ | WHAT EVER YOU DO.. do not buy grandstream |
| 21:26.43 | bkw_ | they are pure shit |
| 21:26.45 | bkw_ | PURE shit |
| 21:27.05 | jtodd | bkw: they make calls, so they're not toally disfunctional. Just not "industrial grade" yet. |
| 21:27.24 | jtodd | bkw: and as I've told many people, most of their problems are software and could be fixed if they listened to the gripes. |
| 21:27.25 | bkw_ | no they are as of late totally disfucntional |
| 21:27.54 | bkw_ | I don't ever expect grandstream to fix it |
| 21:28.10 | bkw_ | at this rate they will be gone before they fix it |
| 21:28.13 | new_user | so most any phone with a hold button will work with asterisk and actually put someone on hold and give them the on hold music |
| 21:28.20 | bkw_ | new_user yes |
| 21:28.24 | JerJer | i totally volunteered to write IAX2 based firmware for the BarbieTones, but I was completely ignored |
| 21:28.36 | blitzrage | JerJer: that's sad |
| 21:28.45 | new_user | and transfer is the same? |
| 21:28.52 | blitzrage | "what?! new features! BAH!" |
| 21:30.35 | JerJer | blitzrage: really... i was even gonna purchase my own barbietone to do the development |
| 21:30.54 | Stealth_Man_[afk | JErJErL who ignired you on firmware for Barbietones? |
| 21:30.56 | bkw_ | lets boycott grandstream |
| 21:31.10 | bkw_ | who wants to shoot off an email to the list and get the ball rollin |
| 21:31.39 | Stealth_Man_[afk | bkw: get first cheap cisco phones for everyone :) |
| 21:31.44 | JerJer | but not one developer that had a clue would talk to me and the one suit that did talk to me kept blowing smoke saying that they are really busy working on blah blah |
| 21:32.01 | bkw_ | I think cisco gear will start falling in price faster |
| 21:32.04 | Stealth_Man_[afk | JerJEr: what is needed to move forward with Barbitones IAX soft ? |
| 21:32.13 | bkw_ | its gonna have to if cisco wants to stay in the market |
| 21:32.35 | MSpin | when is cisco gonna start marketing phones unde the Linksys brand:) |
| 21:32.36 | JerJer | Stealth_Man_[afk: some sort of documenation or source code |
| 21:32.37 | Stealth_Man_[afk | bkw: cisco has thousands of corporate customers and business .. they still buying stuff,just because it's cisco ... |
| 21:32.51 | Stealth_Man_[afk | JerJEr: I think noone will release source code :((( |
| 21:33.11 | JerJer | then give me a DOC++ view of some code |
| 21:33.15 | Stealth_Man_[afk | JerJEr: I have contacts with Grandstream management directly ... let's make clear what is needed and I will try to push them |
| 21:33.18 | JerJer | i don't need much |
| 21:33.40 | JerJer | I need to know shit that they arent gonna tell me |
| 21:34.18 | bkw_ | why can't we reverse the code? |
| 21:34.20 | bkw_ | or atleast try |
| 21:34.36 | JerJer | that's the hardway |
| 21:34.57 | bkw_ | well if they aren't gonna let us in the frontdoor lets get the tire iron out and go in the backdoor |
| 21:35.08 | bkw_ | oh that doesn't sound right.. but you get the point |
| 21:35.20 | Stealth_Man_[afk | :) |
| 21:35.48 | bkw_ | ya screw grandstream |
| 21:35.50 | Stealth_Man_[afk | you se the prob .? IAXy will work only with * .. Grandstream has huge access to market by very low market ... |
| 21:35.56 | bkw_ | the IAXy will be out soon |
| 21:35.58 | Stealth_Man_[afk | price |
| 21:36.11 | JerJer | 100 billion dollars |
| 21:36.23 | Stealth_Man_[afk | yes it iwll be out ... but I am sure it will take minimum 6 months to get some normal stable release of firmware |
| 21:36.30 | bkw_ | JerJer I hope the price drops after the first 1k or so of the units sold |
| 21:36.53 | JerJer | bkw_: buy 10,000 from kram and i'm sure he'll knock a couple bucks off |
| 21:37.02 | bkw_ | OH like I Have that kind of cash |
| 21:37.11 | zigman | IAXy is that what wasim develops ( or is that the farfone ?) |
| 21:37.12 | Stealth_Man_[afk | JerJer: who was contact person in GS ? |
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| 21:37.19 | bkw_ | farfone = wasim |
| 21:37.23 | bkw_ | iaxy = digium |
| 21:37.25 | Stealth_Man_[afk | iaxy = digium |
| 21:38.02 | zigman | aahhh |
| 21:38.03 | zigman | url |
| 21:38.05 | zigman | ? |
| 21:38.19 | JerJer | Stealth_Man_[afk: i don't rememba... shido did all of the leg work, i just got on the phone when i needed to |
| 21:38.20 | Cripon | will someone call my iaxtel num for me? |
| 21:38.30 | Tekati | Number? |
| 21:38.44 | Cripon | 7008594508 |
| 21:38.50 | *** join/#asterisk loozer (~BLuser@lin-dsl-static-209-50-22-009.inetnebr.com) |
| 21:38.58 | bkw_ | un registered |
| 21:39.06 | Tekati | You got issues man. |
| 21:39.32 | Tekati | what does a iax2 show registry output? |
| 21:40.28 | Stealth_Man_[afk | jerjer : do you have list of what is needed from GS ? |
| 21:40.32 | Tekati | Does the CallerID protocol have time somewhere in it? |
| 21:40.34 | Stealth_Man_[afk | so i can re-open issue ? |
| 21:41.59 | JerJer | we need documenation on how to write our own protocol stack into their firmware |
| 21:42.25 | Stealth_Man_[afk | yehhh will be hard ... |
| 21:42.41 | h3x | barbietone! |
| 21:42.41 | JerJer | they won't do it... they will have to give out information that would allow me to duplicate their product(s) |
| 21:42.41 | Stealth_Man_[afk | how many members asterisk currently has ? |
| 21:42.48 | JerJer | all of them |
| 21:42.51 | Stealth_Man_[afk | :) |
| 21:43.10 | Stealth_Man_[afk | hmmm |
| 21:43.15 | Stealth_Man_[afk | shit |
| 21:43.24 | Stealth_Man_[afk | must be some way ... |
| 21:44.49 | zigman | is there an url (screenshots ect) for the IAXy ? |
| 21:45.04 | Stealth_Man_[afk | jerjer has on ftp |
| 21:45.08 | JerJer | http://www.nufone.net/downloads/IAXy.jpg |
| 21:45.11 | zigman | k |
| 21:45.30 | zigman | what is that ? |
| 21:45.32 | zigman | ;) |
| 21:45.44 | zigman | embedded asterisk ? |
| 21:46.36 | JerJer | not quite, but good enough |
| 21:46.40 | JerJer | it runs IAX2 |
| 21:46.55 | zigman | what connectors are on it ? |
| 21:47.01 | zigman | FXS and ethernet ? |
| 21:47.14 | zigman | or what is it good for ? |
| 21:47.15 | kram | let me put one together real quick |
| 21:47.20 | kram | so you can have a version that has the board in it |
| 21:48.11 | JerJer | cool! |
| 21:49.08 | JerJer | it is a standalone 1 Port FXS IAX2 Device |
| 21:49.38 | Tekati | JerJer will it be a web based configuration like the ATA style devices? |
| 21:49.45 | JerJer | Tekati: no |
| 21:49.45 | new_user | if you dont haev a tranfer button, how do you transfer calls? |
| 21:49.50 | JerJer | # |
| 21:50.01 | JerJer | Tekati; it is provisioned via IAX2 |
| 21:50.28 | Stealth_Man_[afk | new_user: by pressing pound key |
| 21:50.45 | new_user | is parking someone and putting them on hold the same thing? |
| 21:51.56 | okrumm | is it for sale this iaxy ? or there will plans for constructing one...... |
| 21:52.53 | JerJer | okrumm: digium will sell you one, just not now |
| 21:54.02 | h3x | send me one !@ |
| 21:54.05 | okrumm | JerJer: ok i see..., it would be great if you release info about it and even better the possibilites to build one with ease! |
| 21:54.16 | Stealth_Man_[afk | JerJEr: how long do you think it wil ltake to create firmware for GS ? if let's say they will agree ? |
| 21:54.20 | blitzrage | okrumm: I dont' think you are going to get information on how to build on |
| 21:54.22 | blitzrage | one* |
| 21:54.36 | JerJer | Stealth_Man_[afk: no clue |
| 21:54.37 | okrumm | blitzrage: why not? |
| 21:54.54 | blitzrage | okrumm: because I would assume digium is going to try and make money off of their hard work |
| 21:55.06 | Stealth_Man_[afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.17 | h3x | its expensive to produce qty 1 of them anyway |
| 21:55.25 | h3x | of any electronic prototype |
| 21:55.36 | okrumm | well i'd bet that even if they release info on how to build them, they can make LOTS of money... |
| 21:55.39 | h3x | probably three times what it'll cost to buy one from digium |
| 21:55.55 | blitzrage | man, if you could create your own firmware for the GS phones, think of the possibilities! :) |
| 21:55.55 | JerJer | okrumm: ur talkin about Digium's IP here |
| 21:56.00 | JerJer | and i'm not talking about the internet |
| 21:56.20 | h3x | you can roll your own firmware for snom's |
| 21:56.22 | JerJer | WTF is a PCI Mezzanine Card ? |
| 21:56.24 | h3x | they are just expensive |
| 21:56.38 | blitzrage | h3x: yah, and someone like me can't afford much more than a GS :) |
| 21:56.39 | h3x | jer: a card that sits on top of a pci card |
| 21:56.48 | h3x | such as PMC boards |
| 21:56.49 | JerJer | hmm |
| 21:57.10 | blitzrage | if anyone has a cheap TDM10B card they want to sell, /msg me |
| 21:57.23 | JerJer | blitzrage: talk to digium |
| 21:57.43 | blitzrage | JerJer: I was hoping to get a used one that someone didn't need anymore. I can't afford a new one. |
| 21:58.14 | blitzrage | currently borrowing one of the 22 I made my school purchase :) |
| 21:58.46 | JerJer | heck u shoulda had them pay for 23 |
| 21:59.05 | blitzrage | would have been nice.... :) |
| 21:59.07 | h3x | thats exactly what i was just gonna say |
| 21:59.21 | JerJer | shit get a case of 25 |
| 21:59.22 | blitzrage | maybe they will forget about the one I have in my computer... :) |
| 21:59.25 | h3x | bbl |
| 21:59.33 | blitzrage | but I doubt it. |
| 22:02.03 | JerJer | Stealth_Man_[afk: the time of development depends on to main things 1) detail level of documenation or access to someone who has a clue and 2) proper motivation |
| 22:03.24 | JerJer | I reverse engineered Skinny in about 3 weeks of part time playing around |
| 22:03.31 | Stealth_Man_[afk | JErJEr: GS-IAX integration project is more like business strategy for GS ... if they want to get additional customers ... especcially with * community growth. But nobody will make it for free for GS .... :) |
| 22:03.39 | JerJer | but skinny isn't hardware |
| 22:04.19 | Rob-- | Does anyone here know how to stop asterisk from answering if another phone on the same line is picked up? I've got an x100p and would like to use it as a simple answering machine with phones plugged directly in to the line. |
| 22:04.30 | JerJer | evil |
| 22:04.52 | JerJer | buy a TDM400P and do it the right way |
| 22:05.18 | blitzrage | much easier |
| 22:05.36 | Rob-- | I've got an s100u, but the additional delay when dialing is annoying. |
| 22:05.47 | JerJer | ?! |
| 22:06.01 | JerJer | then u got problems |
| 22:06.22 | Rob-- | I also don't want to rewire everything. The phones must also work if the server is down for any reason. |
| 22:06.45 | JerJer | don't let the server go down |
| 22:07.15 | wsuff[afk] | have a backup server |
| 22:07.16 | wsuff[afk] | =) |
| 22:07.22 | JerJer | and power |
| 22:07.25 | Rob-- | say there's a power cut, and I need to make an emergency call? |
| 22:07.27 | blitzrage | UPS |
| 22:07.29 | Tekati | Okay how do you remove the first number in a Dial string again? ${EXTEN:1} does the last number what is for the first number |
| 22:07.40 | blitzrage | :1 is for the first number... |
| 22:07.48 | Rob-- | this is for a small home system. |
| 22:08.02 | JerJer | try ${EXTEN:-1} |
| 22:08.12 | Tekati | Thanks. |
| 22:08.52 | JerJer | if your removing the first digit they dial, why make them dial it? |
| 22:09.00 | JerJer | ...in the first place |
| 22:09.16 | blitzrage | so apparently you can only use the term "ENUM" if you are using the official ENUM server, and if not, then you have to use the term ENUM-alike? |
| 22:09.37 | blitzrage | unless* |
| 22:09.43 | JerJer | !? |
| 22:10.09 | blitzrage | I don't know.. something about that on the asterisk-doc list because one of the main developers of ENUM doesn't want it to be a generic term... ? |
| 22:10.19 | JerJer | ENUM is a protocol |
| 22:10.26 | JerJer | ...extension to DNS |
| 22:10.32 | blitzrage | that's what I thought! :) |
| 22:10.36 | Rob-- | why does the x100p still answer if another phone is picked up? Wouldn't this also happen if the caller hung up? |
| 22:10.57 | JerJer | blitzrage: so you can run your own DNS server, but its not called a DNS-alike server |
| 22:11.13 | blitzrage | JerJer: hold on... |
| 22:11.31 | JerJer | can't.../me smells dinner |
| 22:11.33 | Tekati | bkw: I just got that problem I heard you talking to someone or read in a bug where I got a loop in a 3 way call where I had to kill -9 * to get out of it. |
| 22:11.41 | blitzrage | When documenting ENUM make sure you make a difference between an |
| 22:11.41 | blitzrage | ENUM-alike structure and the ENUM system. |
| 22:11.44 | blitzrage | The ENUM system is the one with the official root e164.arpa. Nothing else |
| 22:11.46 | blitzrage | can be called ENUM. If you use NAPTR and build something for yourself, |
| 22:11.48 | blitzrage | it's an ENUM-alike structure. Don't use the terms "private ENUM" or something |
| 22:11.50 | blitzrage | like that. My friend Patrik wrote the RFC's and he is _very_ strict with |
| 22:11.52 | blitzrage | the difference between ENUM and private systems with a similar solution. |
| 22:11.54 | blitzrage | shit.. sorry to flood! |
| 22:11.56 | blitzrage | didn't realize there was that much text |
| 22:12.37 | JerJer | hmm |
| 22:12.40 | JerJer | mkay |
| 22:12.57 | blitzrage | damn developers :) |
| 22:13.10 | JerJer | so then NuFone uses a ENUM-alike routing protocol |
| 22:13.18 | blitzrage | apparently... |
| 22:13.31 | blitzrage | screw that. I declare ENUM a generic term! :) |
| 22:13.34 | JerJer | hell yeah |
| 22:14.01 | JerJer | u can build your own .tld's but that's not called a DNS alike system ?! |
| 22:14.07 | JerJer | oddness |
| 22:14.11 | JerJer | anyway |
| 22:14.15 | blitzrage | This 20th day of December of the year 2003, let it be known throughout the land that ENUM is a generic term. :) |
| 22:14.37 | JerJer | bbib |
| 22:14.40 | blitzrage | mmm.. foo |
| 22:14.41 | blitzrage | d |
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| 22:34.06 | TestMasTer | anyone know of any Docs on setting up some kind of indicator For voice mail, For the phones, So when the person picks up the phone it beeps or so the phone will flash? |
| 22:35.01 | Stealth_Man | TestMaster, our * is giving such notification to GS phone by default |
| 22:35.57 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, For some reason i`m not getting anything |
| 22:36.05 | Stealth_Man | do you have GS ? |
| 22:36.11 | TestMasTer | in your sip config, Do you have mailbox=123? |
| 22:36.16 | Stealth_Man | yes |
| 22:36.28 | Stealth_Man | did you put mailbox name in GS config ? |
| 22:37.24 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, when you say name you mean example name = 123 for the mailbox extension right? |
| 22:37.55 | rpb | mail box requires ext@context |
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| 22:38.38 | *** topic/#asterisk is The SIP Motto: There's More Than One Standard to Do It |
| 22:38.39 | Stealth_Man | maybei am mistaken |
| 22:39.06 | *** join/#asterisk Ryguillian (~Ryguillia@c-24-12-96-52.client.comcast.net) |
| 22:39.17 | Ryguillian | Bonjour! |
| 22:39.28 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, in there all i have is Voice Mail and it says its for a 3rd part Voicemail, and off the hook |
| 22:39.29 | Stealth_Man | Bonjour |
| 22:39.36 | Stealth_Man | yehhh |
| 22:39.40 | Stealth_Man | we put it there |
| 22:39.43 | TestMasTer | and in the offhook i have my name in there |
| 22:39.44 | Stealth_Man | 3rd party .. |
| 22:39.48 | Stealth_Man | hmmm |
| 22:40.00 | hmodes | oooyyy |
| 22:40.03 | hmodes | _fuck_ christmas |
| 22:40.03 | Stealth_Man | we have nothing on offhook.. offhook is used to quickdial .. think |
| 22:40.10 | Ryguillian | Fuck Christmas? lol |
| 22:40.15 | hmodes | yes! |
| 22:40.19 | Stealth_Man | hmodes: what happened man ? |
| 22:40.20 | Ryguillian | That's rather... ominous? |
| 22:40.21 | hmodes | in da butt! |
| 22:40.26 | hmodes | <-- just got back from walmart |
| 22:40.27 | Ryguillian | ... ;-) |
| 22:40.33 | TestMasTer | ok Stealth_Man would i do example 123/and then name? |
| 22:40.35 | hmodes | walmart + saturday before xmas == BAD BAD BAD |
| 22:40.38 | hmodes | frickin mob scene |
| 22:40.41 | Ryguillian | I'd imagine... |
| 22:40.43 | Stealth_Man | i bet you have no money left in your pockets |
| 22:40.45 | Ryguillian | I avoid walmart... |
| 22:40.54 | Ryguillian | Or any of the *marts |
| 22:40.55 | TestMasTer | rpb, with what you said where would i put that in the gs config? |
| 22:41.01 | Stealth_Man | testmaster, onesec |
| 22:41.05 | Stealth_Man | let me open our sip.conf |
| 22:41.10 | hmodes | i had to get a cheap cordless phone to go with teh vonage account that constitutes my dad's xmas gift |
| 22:41.14 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, thanx loads |
| 22:41.15 | hmodes | and they're close, and cheap |
| 22:41.44 | Ryguillian | ... i see |
| 22:42.11 | Stealth_Man | TestMaster : works ? |
| 22:42.11 | Ryguillian | Anybody here running OS X 10.3.2? |
| 22:42.28 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, no it still isn`t working |
| 22:42.37 | Stealth_Man | testmaster here is small example of sip.conf entry for extension 7000 |
| 22:42.50 | Stealth_Man | [7000] |
| 22:42.50 | Stealth_Man | type=friend |
| 22:42.50 | Stealth_Man | ;username=7000 |
| 22:42.50 | Stealth_Man | secret=7000 |
| 22:42.50 | Stealth_Man | host=dynamic |
| 22:42.51 | Stealth_Man | ;defaultip=192.168.1.103 |
| 22:42.53 | Stealth_Man | dtmfmode=rfc2833 |
| 22:42.55 | Stealth_Man | mailbox=7000 |
| 22:42.57 | Stealth_Man | nat=yes |
| 22:42.59 | Stealth_Man | context=admin |
| 22:43.01 | Stealth_Man | canreinvite=no |
| 22:43.03 | Stealth_Man | reinvite=no |
| 22:43.05 | Stealth_Man | callerid="7000" <7000> |
| 22:43.41 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, would you be able to show me what you have in the voicemail part of the gs as well plz? |
| 22:43.48 | Stealth_Man | one sec |
| 22:43.52 | TestMasTer | thanx |
| 22:45.12 | Stealth_Man | 3rd party : 7000 |
| 22:45.16 | Stealth_Man | that's it |
| 22:45.21 | Stealth_Man | try it ... should be working |
| 22:45.29 | Stealth_Man | which version do you have on GS phone ? |
| 22:45.32 | TestMasTer | ok thanx Stealth_Man i will try right now again |
| 22:45.38 | Stealth_Man | yep np |
| 22:45.49 | TestMasTer | um the phone it says 100 but i have the two port, I can`t recall what it is |
| 22:45.57 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 22:46.04 | Stealth_Man | no ... when you go on the config page |
| 22:46.20 | Stealth_Man | on the top of page it will be something like 1.0.38 or 1.0.4. |
| 22:47.21 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, Program--1.0.4.17 Bootloader--1.0.0.11 HTML--1.0.0.19 |
| 22:47.26 | *** join/#asterisk Shido6 (~shido@d57-81-103.home.cgocable.net) |
| 22:48.44 | Stealth_Man | ok |
| 22:48.48 | Stealth_Man | normal one |
| 22:49.44 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, I tryed to do the update, but for some reason it won`t update via tftp |
| 22:49.51 | Stealth_Man | don;t update it please |
| 22:49.54 | Stealth_Man | leave it alone |
| 22:49.59 | TestMasTer | ok |
| 22:50.15 | Stealth_Man | there is unofficial not supported firmwares around .. it will make you mess |
| 22:50.22 | Stealth_Man | really makes no sense to upgrade so far ... |
| 22:50.31 | Stealth_Man | it will be announcement later ... |
| 22:51.30 | Stealth_Man | my GS is blinking :)) if I have VM |
| 22:51.31 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 22:51.58 | *** join/#asterisk IronHelixz (IronHelix@ool-182c7020.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:52.18 | TestMasTer | ok |
| 22:52.31 | TestMasTer | brb let me try this |
| 22:52.35 | Stealth_Man | ok |
| 22:55.07 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, i`m just using the standard extension for the voicemail i have it setup under default as 8500 should i change that or is that ok? |
| 22:55.58 | Stealth_Man | should be ok .. |
| 22:56.18 | TestMasTer | ok i`m still getting no flashing and i saved my self a message |
| 22:56.29 | Stealth_Man | strange ... |
| 22:56.37 | Stealth_Man | did you addmailbox ? |
| 22:57.04 | *** join/#asterisk montag (~montag@host34-62.pool21345.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:57.17 | montag | is there a way to use an wav file for music on hold ???? |
| 22:57.25 | rpb | Shouldn't need addmailbox on voicemail2 |
| 22:57.33 | rpb | which is default inow |
| 22:57.42 | TestMasTer | ya i did add mailbox |
| 22:57.51 | Stealth_Man | which version of * do you run ? |
| 22:57.59 | TestMasTer | the CVS |
| 22:58.04 | Stealth_Man | latest one ?! |
| 22:58.08 | TestMasTer | ya |
| 22:58.14 | TestMasTer | i just installed last week |
| 22:58.33 | Stealth_Man | supposed to blink ... |
| 22:58.34 | Stealth_Man | :) |
| 22:58.54 | TestMasTer | hrmz |
| 22:59.50 | Stealth_Man | did you add in sip.conf ? |
| 22:59.57 | Stealth_Man | reload asterisk .. take look maybe will help |
| 23:01.01 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, no errors or anything in asterisk |
| 23:01.14 | Stealth_Man | and still not working ? |
| 23:01.20 | TestMasTer | No, |
| 23:01.22 | Stealth_Man | hmmmm |
| 23:01.26 | TestMasTer | Stealth_Man, can i msg you a second |
| 23:01.38 | Stealth_Man | yes |
| 23:03.46 | *** join/#asterisk Frank (Frank@200.109.10.235) |
| 23:04.02 | Frank | Hi all ! |
| 23:04.34 | Stealth_Man | hello |
| 23:05.01 | Frank | anyone talking here ? |
| 23:05.11 | Corydon76-home | Bug 690 for anybody wanting that new command |
| 23:05.24 | Stealth_Man | cory: what is doing ? |
| 23:05.45 | Corydon76-home | show voicemail users |
| 23:05.53 | Corydon76-home | show voicemail users for <context> |
| 23:05.58 | Corydon76-home | show voicemail zones |
| 23:06.01 | Corydon76-home | That's all |
| 23:06.05 | Stealth_Man | cory: what zones are doing ? |
| 23:06.20 | Corydon76-home | It's for zonemessages |
| 23:07.00 | Frank | anyone tried out mac os x and asterisk ? does it work ? |
| 23:07.21 | *** join/#asterisk cripito (~cripito@hoochie.digium.com) |
| 23:09.09 | cripito | anyone known how say to the asterisk that don't make the zaptel modules in ELF mode? |
| 23:09.14 | cripito | hi.. sorry |
| 23:09.50 | cripito | i have a sunfire 280r |
| 23:10.02 | *** join/#asterisk RichA (~Rich@vegas.routers.com) |
| 23:10.14 | cripito | but the zaptel build fail... because is building the modules in ELF |
| 23:11.03 | Corydon76-home | The zaptel drivers aren't supported for any platform other than x86 Linux |
| 23:11.28 | cripito | thanks corydon... |
| 23:12.34 | Corydon76-home | Although changes have been made to get Asterisk working on OS X, the drivers still aren't ported. |
| 23:12.52 | Corydon76-home | Count on the drivers being ported to FreeBSD first. |
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| 23:13.06 | Stealth_Man | asterisk and Solaris ... any implemetations ? |
| 23:13.19 | Corydon76-home | Slowaris? |
| 23:13.31 | Stealth_Man | hehe |
| 23:13.37 | Frank | does anyone know when they will be available ? |
| 23:13.46 | RichA | anyone: when is the "t" and "h" typically used? |
| 23:13.48 | cripito | jumm but the drivers where ok.. don't give any problems when i am building .... just is ELF... is there any way to say that don't build ELF modules ... just binaries? |
| 23:18.19 | Corydon76-home | RichA: t is for timeout. h is for hangup |
| 23:18.36 | Corydon76-home | For t, see ResponseTimeout |
| 23:18.51 | loko_moko | ~seen h3x |
| 23:18.56 | | h3x <~BLuser@lin-dsl-static-209-50-22-009.inetnebr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1h 19m 31s ago, saying: 'bbl'. |
| 23:18.57 | dant | cripito, you are running solaris or linux on there? |
| 23:18.57 | Corydon76-home | h is not reliable, though |
| 23:19.05 | cripito | linux aurora |
| 23:19.15 | cripito | www.auroralinux.org |
| 23:19.24 | dant | aye, seen it |
| 23:19.34 | Corydon76-home | ELF modules *are* binaries |
| 23:20.02 | Corydon76-home | ELF is a binary loadable format |
| 23:20.17 | cripito | yeap we agree... |
| 23:20.41 | Corydon76-home | What are you trying to do? |
| 23:20.43 | cripito | but there is 2 ways to set the modules in the kernel... ELF or binarys right? |
| 23:20.53 | cripito | i download the asterik |
| 23:20.55 | dant | cripito, you've not tried hacking the Makefile have you? |
| 23:20.56 | Corydon76-home | Nope |
| 23:21.12 | cripito | yeap.. but i don't known the cflags for this... |
| 23:21.23 | Corydon76-home | The zaptel modules are loadable only |
| 23:21.44 | cripito | this is the error |
| 23:22.00 | cripito | depmod: ELF file /lib/modules/2.4.20-2.31sparc/misc/tor2.o not for this architecture |
| 23:22.15 | dant | cripito, I don't know whether there is more involved in the code to make it work on a different arch... but... |
| 23:22.16 | bkw_ | wooohoooo |
| 23:22.31 | dant | cripito, that's not saying ELF is bad, that's saying the compiled arch is bad |
| 23:22.38 | Corydon76-home | Sounds like you have a cross-compiler on there... and simply compiling for the wrong architecture |
| 23:23.07 | cripito | that could be too... |
| 23:23.13 | cripito | i am using sparc64. |
| 23:23.17 | Corydon76-home | Try changing from -mi386 or -mi586 to -mpowerpc |
| 23:23.25 | Corydon76-home | or -msparc64 |
| 23:23.37 | cripito | could be.. let me try |
| 23:23.38 | cripito | thanks |
| 23:24.02 | Corydon76-home | bkw_: woohoo? |
| 23:24.04 | cripito | that make sences. |
| 23:24.55 | cripito | another question before anything... the TE410P works in sparc? :D |
| 23:25.14 | dant | cripito, I don't know anyone who's tried... |
| 23:26.15 | cripito | ugly.. so we are the firsts....... now we can say woohoo!!!! |
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| 23:27.25 | Shido6 | YES |
| 23:27.27 | Shido6 | it works on sparc |
| 23:27.31 | Shido6 | but its one helluva tweak |
| 23:27.50 | cripito | thanks... shido6 |
| 23:29.25 | RichA | Corydon76: thanks |
| 23:31.07 | atacomm | how good is Matrox these days? looking for a dual DVI card, they have one |
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| 23:32.11 | Mike | hey guys my normal phone rings on the house and my sip phone but when they answer the normal phone the sip phone still rings 2 times |
| 23:32.37 | Mike | any ideas how can i make sip phones shut up when they already pick up the call in a normal phone |
| 23:32.37 | Mike | ? |
| 23:33.06 | dant | Mike, run the analogue phones though * |
| 23:33.30 | cripito | hi blind34 :D |
| 23:33.35 | cripito | sorry ciego |
| 23:33.44 | Mike | dant: dont have a channel bank and a T1 card |
| 23:33.56 | dant | Mike, you have that many phones? |
| 23:34.10 | Shido6 | DVI |
| 23:34.26 | Shido6 | i have dvi on this 8500dv never used it i always used the dvi adapter to my viewsonic ps775 ...... |
| 23:34.26 | atacomm | chido: what? |
| 23:34.29 | atacomm | *shido: |
| 23:34.35 | atacomm | ah |
| 23:34.57 | atacomm | I've got my Dell LCD, and my friend brought me his today......and i found my GF2 cant run two monitors |
| 23:35.03 | Mike | dant: i dont have that PCI card that makes analog phones |
| 23:35.27 | Shido6 | FXS TDMx0b card, Mike ? |
| 23:35.41 | dant | Mike, ahh, if you did have an FXS of some sort, that would sure be easier :) |
| 23:35.59 | Shido6 | get a softphone and hav at it |
| 23:37.08 | dant | Mike, I'm guessing the problem is that by picking up the phone connected to your analogue line in parallel to *, you aren't actually letting * know that there is no longer a call coming in to it |
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| 23:38.04 | dant | Mike, it'll just eventually realise there is no longer any ringing |
| 23:38.51 | monsieur-tan | is checking if the manager port is accessible a good way of checking if asterisk is up? |
| 23:39.19 | dant | monsieur-tan, not if you have the manager port disabled ;) |
| 23:40.01 | monsieur-tan | ha ha. of course. i'm using Monit and wanna know if the best way is just to check for asterisk processes or to open a socket to the mgr interface instead |
| 23:40.38 | Frank | mac driver availability for mac os x ? |
| 23:40.51 | Frank | anyone ? |
| 23:41.32 | dant | monsieur-tan, if * was properly down, that port would close... not sure about a hung state tho |
| 23:41.48 | monsieur-tan | hmmm |
| 23:42.04 | monsieur-tan | not sure if i've had a hung state before... |
| 23:42.46 | dant | monsieur-tan, me neither, but the whole point of monitoring something is to show up when something goes wrong :) |
| 23:43.10 | monsieur-tan | yep. do you use Monit for this, or some other app? |
| 23:43.28 | dant | monsieur-tan, I tend to use nagios for monitoring |
| 23:43.48 | monsieur-tan | nagios? I'll have a look at it. Is it easy to set up? |
| 23:44.07 | dant | aye, www.nagios.com |
| 23:44.10 | dant | erm |
| 23:44.28 | dant | ahh yeah, redirects to .org |
| 23:44.38 | dant | setup is reasonably easy |
| 23:44.47 | *** join/#asterisk seemore (~craig@d205-206-9-104.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 23:44.57 | monsieur-tan | just had a look. sounds like you have to write your own scripts. |
| 23:45.45 | seemore | anyone have sip to h323 calls working thru * ? |
| 23:45.55 | dant | monsieur-tan, it comes with a decent set of scripts |
| 23:46.03 | monsieur-tan | dant: thx. i'll have a look. |
| 23:46.10 | dant | monsieur-tan, nagios-plugins iirc |
| 23:46.18 | monsieur-tan | thx man |
| 23:46.27 | monsieur-tan | seemore: yes |
| 23:47.05 | seemore | mine dumps the call as soon as h323 picks up |
| 23:47.35 | monsieur-tan | codec issue? |
| 23:48.01 | monsieur-tan | dant: is nagios stable? |
| 23:48.16 | seemore | maybe, tried to find info on it, no luck |
| 23:48.43 | seemore | got allow=gsm in sip.conf |
| 23:48.47 | dant | monsieur-tan, I've had it running stable since it replaced netsaint which was running stable for years |
| 23:48.51 | monsieur-tan | which codecs does your h323 endpoint support? |
| 23:49.01 | monsieur-tan | dant: ok, that's good to hear. |
| 23:49.36 | dant | monsieur-tan, yep, not much point in a monitoring app that you need to monitor because it falls over ;) |
| 23:49.38 | seemore | u and alaw |
| 23:50.08 | monsieur-tan | ok, allow all codecs in sip.conf |
| 23:50.19 | seemore | cool, thanx |
| 23:50.29 | monsieur-tan | use reinvite=no in sip.conf |
| 23:50.43 | monsieur-tan | maybe you have an rtp bridging issue |
| 23:51.17 | Rob-- | Is it possible to make the x100p respond quicker when ringing stops? |
| 23:51.36 | monsieur-tan | how do you mean? |
| 23:51.47 | seemore | I'll try that stuff now |
| 23:52.29 | Rob-- | The internal phone keeps ringing for several seconds after the caller hangs up, and if answered during this time, you get a dial tone from the pstn line. |
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| 23:52.44 | hmodes | ugh.. damn dirty windows |
| 23:53.24 | Rob-- | I want it to stop ringing as soon as the ring signal goes away on the pstn line. |
| 23:54.35 | monsieur-tan | rob: how are you answering the line? ip phone? |
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| 23:59.41 | seemore | monsieur-tan: would you look at my phone for config ? |
