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| 18:37.26 | elliot98 | where can I the CHANGES file online? |
| 18:40.41 | leifmadsen | http://svn.asterisk.org/svn/asterisk/trunk/CHANGES |
| 18:41.20 | elliot98 | thanks! |
| 18:42.45 | elliot98 | you know, I am scanning through the change and upgrade files and I want to get your opinion about having a wiki or something similar that splits up the advances in coding according to features and not necessarily versions |
| 18:43.28 | elliot98 | so if a user is interested in SIP or languages, all the changes for those modules are listed there |
| 18:44.04 | leifmadsen | the reason something like that does't exist is because it becomes out of date very quickly unless someone maintains it |
| 18:44.17 | leifmadsen | there are many good ideas, but unless you're will to spend the time to do it, it's not going to happen |
| 18:44.28 | leifmadsen | many people come along with grandiose ideas, and frankly, I've not seen one ever happen |
| 18:44.49 | leifmadsen | (other than jsmith and myself starting a documentation project, and it eventually turning into a book) |
| 18:44.50 | elliot98 | guess it boils down to money sometimes |
| 18:44.53 | leifmadsen | and time |
| 18:44.56 | leifmadsen | and skills |
| 18:45.13 | leifmadsen | people are not going to write documentation for free, and the documentation that DOES pay does not pay all that well |
| 18:45.19 | leifmadsen | jsmith and I know from experience |
| 18:45.32 | leifmadsen | I maybe get a $500 cheque (if I'm lucky) once a quarter |
| 18:45.37 | leifmadsen | hardly anything to write home about |
| 18:45.50 | leifmadsen | so unless a salary is involved, no one is going to do it |
| 18:46.18 | leifmadsen | I'm not trying to discourage you, but these types of discussions tend to be a waste of everyones time unless they are willing and able to step up to the task of implementing something |
| 18:46.47 | elliot98 | wow...is Asterisk well enough modulized that versions can be split up? |
| 18:46.55 | leifmadsen | what do you mean? |
| 18:47.35 | leifmadsen | jsmith: I ordered a new keyboard for my E71 and hopefully will arrive sometime next week |
| 18:47.41 | leifmadsen | was like $6 on ebay with free shipping |
| 18:47.55 | elliot98 | if there would be different categories, such as SIP, IAX, language support, features, applications, etc. |
| 18:48.07 | elliot98 | I am looking at one changelog now |
| 18:48.36 | leifmadsen | there are different categories in the CHANGES file |
| 18:48.41 | elliot98 | and most file already are divided up |
| 18:48.42 | leifmadsen | I'm not sure what else you're trying to get out of it |
| 18:48.42 | elliot98 | yes |
| 18:49.00 | leifmadsen | yes, each application, etc... is a module |
| 18:49.21 | elliot98 | how often does a new version come out? Every week or so, no? |
| 18:49.26 | leifmadsen | no |
| 18:49.32 | leifmadsen | russellb already answered that question in #asterisk-dev |
| 18:49.47 | elliot98 | sorry, not new version, I mean a patch or minor |
| 18:50.17 | leifmadsen | <russellb> elliot98: every 6 moths or so for major versions |
| 18:50.17 | leifmadsen | <russellb> bug fix updates roughly 4-6 weeks |
| 18:50.34 | leifmadsen | yes, question asked and answered |
| 18:50.53 | elliot98 | missed that one |
| 18:51.20 | elliot98 | when is the next bug fix due for? |
| 18:52.00 | leifmadsen | we don't have dates we targer |
| 18:52.02 | leifmadsen | target* |
| 18:52.14 | elliot98 | I'll keep my eyes out then |
| 18:52.17 | leifmadsen | all the branches have release candidates out right now |
| 18:52.51 | leifmadsen | they usually are released as full releases a week after becoming RCs if no issues are present |
| 18:53.44 | elliot98 | ok...and what is trunk development? |
| 18:55.31 | leifmadsen | elliot98: you should read this: http://blogs.asterisk.org/2009/06/24/about-the-new-asterisk-versioning-method/ |
| 18:55.53 | elliot98 | understand I really appreciated all your help |
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