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| 12:24.18 | leifmadsen | morn |
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| 13:35.20 | leifmadsen | ctooley: ping? |
| 13:35.36 | ctooley | leifmadsen, |
| 13:35.40 | ctooley | pong |
| 13:35.51 | leifmadsen | ctooley: what was that command you gave me again the other day to move a large number of files? |
| 13:36.35 | ctooley | find . -name *.gsm | xargs -i mv {} /destination/path/ |
| 13:36.42 | ctooley | or.. |
| 13:37.07 | ctooley | find /var/log/ | grep \.log | xargs -i mv {} /destination/path |
| 13:37.29 | ctooley | It depends on how new your xargs installation is as to whether it's -i or -I |
| 13:37.36 | ctooley | you'll have to look at it in the man pages. |
| 13:38.12 | ctooley | leifmadsen, that one? |
| 13:38.37 | leifmadsen | I think so |
| 13:38.46 | leifmadsen | yes, it was the xargs thing |
| 13:38.47 | leifmadsen | thanks! |
| 13:39.40 | ctooley | no problem |
| 13:40.19 | leifmadsen | so I started my morning by writing up a new Installation chapter outline for TFoT 3 |
| 13:40.42 | leifmadsen | can anyone think of anything that might not be immediately obvious, but which might be useful in an installation chapter? |
| 13:41.00 | leifmadsen | I think keeping it simple is probably the best way of going about it though, so I probably got pretty much everything |
| 13:43.58 | ctooley | I think I'm one of the few people that thinks manually installed Asterisk should never be installed to the default locations. |
| 13:44.11 | leifmadsen | oh! that's a good thought |
| 13:44.17 | ctooley | It's a surefire way to have an upgrade break the configuration. |
| 13:44.19 | leifmadsen | I'd really like to get your help / ideas on that |
| 13:44.40 | leifmadsen | I've had people ask how to run multiple instances of asterisk before so they can easily test upgrades, and easily roll back |
| 13:45.11 | leifmadsen | (and test patches, etc...) |
| 13:45.14 | ctooley | http://www.simplified.org/trac/wiki/QuadAsteriskInstallation |
| 13:45.16 | file | I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't have any database stuff, but that's just me |
| 13:45.23 | leifmadsen | :) |
| 13:45.47 | leifmadsen | ctooley: oh nice! can I use that? :) |
| 13:46.06 | ctooley | The problem with manually installed versions going to the default locations is that the majority of people understand "./configure && make && make install" but are incapable of reading an UPGRADE, INSTALL or README |
| 13:46.19 | ctooley | shrugs, sure, it's not rocket science. |
| 13:46.59 | leifmadsen | nice |
| 13:48.14 | ctooley | So... if the normal user compiles and installs 1.6.X over the top of 1.4.X in a production environment (which they're inevitably going to do) strange behavior will crop up, and not always immediately. Almost always because something in configuration files has changed and they don't know how to deal with it. |
| 13:49.56 | ctooley | ie: Packaged versions that come with an OS distribution system... default install locations because someone there is generally capable of making sure some sort of backwards compatability is maintained. Manual installations... self-contained versioned installation location in /usr/local/, /opt/, /opt/depot, or wherever because the configuration is probably going to need to be tweaked and it keeps the old version "clean" in the |
| 13:49.57 | ctooley | event a rollback is required. |
| 13:50.00 | ctooley | And... |
| 13:50.06 | ctooley | steps down off his soap box. |
| 13:50.41 | leifmadsen | that's all good info, thanks chris! |
| 13:50.48 | leifmadsen | (your name is chris right?) |
| 13:50.50 | leifmadsen | :D |
| 13:51.36 | ctooley | Oh, BTW, leif, the Toronto training job got given to another trainer (one already based in Toronto) so Ann and I will not be making the trip up. :-( |
| 13:51.43 | leifmadsen | :( |
| 13:51.44 | leifmadsen | that sucks |
| 13:51.51 | leifmadsen | could have been fun |
| 13:52.07 | leifmadsen | although probably for the best right now because the garbage strike has made downtown Toronto really gross |
| 13:52.25 | leifmadsen | we haven't had garbage collection for about 2 weeks now |
| 13:52.39 | leifmadsen | so all the parks are being used as temporary garbage depots |
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| 14:07.44 | ctooley | That's horrible. |
| 14:08.00 | leifmadsen | it sure is |
| 14:33.12 | leifmadsen | jsmith-away: monday #2! |
| 14:43.16 | ctooley | is still on Monday #1 |
| 14:45.33 | leifmadsen | heh |
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| 15:10.19 | ian__ | Hello? |
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| 15:10.28 | ian__ | Is anyone in here? |
| 15:10.35 | astswan | hi |
| 15:10.51 | ian__ | Hey, Im looking for maybe some help with Asterisk? |
| 15:10.59 | astswan | ok |
| 15:11.12 | astswan | and you are looking for what |
| 15:11.24 | ian__ | well.. more Im assuming I will need some.. Im installing CentOS 5 now |
| 15:11.33 | ian__ | and I plan to run Asterisk off that |
| 15:11.42 | astswan | ok |
| 15:11.50 | ian__ | do you know if I should use 1.4 or 1.6? is there any compatabolity issues? |
| 15:12.06 | astswan | it s depend |
| 15:12.21 | astswan | you will use asterisk to do what ? |
| 15:13.05 | ian__ | in an office enviroment, I need calls to come in from a telephone line (POTS) |
| 15:13.12 | ian__ | and then have the abilty to transfer calls |
| 15:13.17 | ian__ | confrence calls |
| 15:13.38 | ian__ | that kind of stuff, from what it looks like asterisk can do thats not much |
| 15:14.31 | leifmadsen | ian__: you may want to read http://www.asterisk.org/node/48602 |
| 15:14.32 | ian__ | Also I have Polycom 320's |
| 15:14.53 | ian__ | Oh, thanks |
| 15:15.07 | leifmadsen | additionally, asterisk help is in #asterisk |
| 15:15.27 | leifmadsen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:17.31 | ian__ | Thanks you very much, Im registered now |
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