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| 12:44.50 | leifmadsen | ping? |
| 12:44.58 | leifmadsen | ctooley: you around? |
| 12:45.04 | leifmadsen | Juggie: or you?! |
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| 13:18.03 | leifmadsen | jsmith: morning! |
| 13:18.15 | jsmith | morning leifmadsen... |
| 13:18.16 | leifmadsen | jsmith: I have been playing with Drupal -- it's actually a much better system than I remember |
| 13:18.24 | jsmith | knows... his IRC proxy wigged out last night |
| 13:18.37 | leifmadsen | heh, I don't think I was looking for you yesterday |
| 13:18.44 | leifmadsen | so it had no effect on me |
| 13:18.47 | jsmith | Lucky me! |
| 13:19.10 | leifmadsen | jsmith: so I've been working on moving my site over to drupal. This is what I've come up with so far... http://pbx.leifmadsen.com |
| 13:20.13 | ctooley | I've been playing with sipdroid for my Android phone and it doesn't allow me to put a realm in. That seems to be what's causing it to not register, any ideas how I can get Asterisk to ignore that? |
| 13:20.30 | jsmith | ctooley: Any idea what it's using for its realm? |
| 13:20.33 | leifmadsen | ctooley: change the realm in asterisk to match what the client uses? |
| 13:20.40 | jsmith | Exactly... |
| 13:20.44 | leifmadsen | thinks like jsmith .... scary |
| 13:20.56 | leifmadsen | great minds think a like |
| 13:20.57 | ctooley | I don't know if it sends one |
| 13:21.09 | leifmadsen | ctooley: you should see it in the invite right? |
| 13:21.12 | leifmadsen | (if it sends one) |
| 13:21.17 | jsmith | ctooley: I think a realm is part of the nonce-building parts |
| 13:21.31 | leifmadsen | right |
| 13:21.57 | leifmadsen | realm, password, and username, and nonce ot build the hash I believe |
| 13:22.20 | jsmith | And the SIP URI... it's in there too! |
| 13:22.53 | leifmadsen | sounds fancy |
| 13:23.38 | ctooley | reconnecting to the hotel network to pull out a REGISTER |
| 13:26.50 | jsmith | ctooley: Living in a hotel now? |
| 13:26.52 | jsmith | blinks |
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| 13:27.18 | ctooley | Nah, but traveling with my pregnant girlfriend that is a traveling trainer. |
| 13:29.06 | ctooley | Ok, so where do I see this realm again? |
| 13:41.10 | ctooley | found it, sipdroid wants to use the fully qualified domain name of the server as it's realm |
| 13:45.06 | jsmith | Ah... how nice... |
| 13:45.19 | jsmith | ... and of course, Asterisk just wants to use "asterisk" as its realm |
| 13:46.46 | ctooley | yeah, and of course all my other phones are setup to use "asterisk" |
| 13:47.17 | ctooley | Though I honestly think that sipdroid's default makes more sense. |
| 13:49.09 | jsmith | It very well may :-) |
| 13:49.13 | ctooley | Argh! "Proxy Authentication Required" |
| 13:51.49 | ctooley | Because of course sipdroid is sending 127.0.0.1 as it's IP... grrr. |
| 14:00.13 | jsmith | Ugh... that's bad |
| 14:04.07 | ctooley | yeah, apparently the original developers wrote it to work with their pbxes.org site only. |
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| 14:55.45 | leifmadsen | Juggie: ping? |
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| 19:27.01 | Juggie | leifmadsen: you'll be happy to know i got 85/129 on my writing skills test which was good enough for a level 2 but not level 3 :) |
| 19:27.12 | leifmadsen | Juggie: lol |
| 19:27.21 | Juggie | there was some hairy stuff in it :P |
| 19:27.28 | leifmadsen | I'd like to know some of the questions |
| 19:27.35 | leifmadsen | no idea if I'd have done any better |
| 19:28.07 | Juggie | some spelling, some whats wrong with this sentence, some synonyms and also the opposite of synonyms (the word elludes me atm) |
| 19:28.25 | Juggie | a whole section on punctuation which was tough |
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| 19:38.27 | leifmadsen | so check if my math is right.... G.729a call with IP + UDP overhead = 5.91KBps (assuming this number is right), then multiply that by 60 (seconds) to get 354.6 KB/min. Then take 500MB * 1024 = 512,000 KB / 354.6KB = 1443 mins of talk time a month? |
| 19:38.38 | leifmadsen | my math is so incredibly weak, I'm sure I've screwed something up there :) |
| 19:38.57 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Hold please... |
| 19:39.52 | jsmith | leifmadsen: This is over SIP or IAX? |
| 19:39.55 | leifmadsen | SIP |
| 19:40.00 | leifmadsen | that number doesn't include SIP overhead |
| 19:40.08 | leifmadsen | just IP + UDP + RTP |
| 19:40.23 | leifmadsen | (I used asteriskguru.org calculator) |
| 19:40.34 | leifmadsen | Calls: 1 Calls: 1 |
| 19:40.34 | leifmadsen | RTP: 4.69 Kbps RTP: 4.69 Kbps |
| 19:40.34 | leifmadsen | UDP: 3.13 Kbps UDP: 3.13 Kbps |
| 19:40.34 | leifmadsen | IP: 7.81 Kibps IP: 7.81 Kibps |
| 19:40.34 | leifmadsen | Protocol: SIP Protocol: SIP |
| 19:40.35 | leifmadsen | Audio Codec: 8.00g.729a Kbps Audio Codec: 8.00g.729a Kbps |
| 19:40.37 | leifmadsen | *SIP overhead is disregarded!*SIP overhead is disregarded! |
| 19:40.39 | leifmadsen | Incoming bandwidth: 23.63 Kbps |
| 19:40.41 | leifmadsen | 0.02 Mbps |
| 19:40.43 | leifmadsen | 2.95 KBps |
| 19:40.45 | leifmadsen | 0 MBps Outgoing bandwidth: 23.63 Kibps |
| 19:40.47 | leifmadsen | 0.02 Mbps |
| 19:40.49 | leifmadsen | 2.95 KBps |
| 19:40.51 | leifmadsen | 0 MBps |
| 19:40.55 | leifmadsen | Total bandwidth (incoming and outgoing):47.26 Kbps |
| 19:40.57 | leifmadsen | 0.05 Mbps |
| 19:40.59 | leifmadsen | 5.91 KBps |
| 19:41.01 | leifmadsen | 0.01 MBps |
| 19:41.03 | leifmadsen | woh! |
| 19:41.05 | leifmadsen | sorry to flood |
| 19:41.07 | leifmadsen | that was supposed to go to a pastebin |
| 19:41.35 | jsmith | G.729 should be roughly 24kbps |
| 19:41.41 | leifmadsen | per direction right? |
| 19:41.53 | jsmith | Correct |
| 19:42.21 | jsmith | So double that, and you get 48kbps |
| 19:42.24 | leifmadsen | ok, so that calculator says 23.63 (which is 24 rounded up) |
| 19:42.37 | leifmadsen | total bandwidth calcuated was 47.26Kbps |
| 19:42.52 | jsmith | divided by eight is 6KB/s |
| 19:42.56 | leifmadsen | right |
| 19:43.20 | leifmadsen | 6 * 60 = 360 KB/min |
| 19:43.41 | leifmadsen | 500MB -> KB == 512,000 KB (500 * 1,024) |
| 19:43.58 | leifmadsen | 512,000 / 360 = 1422 |
| 19:44.06 | leifmadsen | am I missing anything in there? |
| 19:44.43 | jsmith | Why are you dividing 512000 by 360? |
| 19:45.00 | jsmith | You get 500MB per day? |
| 19:46.23 | leifmadsen | per month |
| 19:46.33 | leifmadsen | I'm trying to figure out how many "minutes" of G.729a in 500MB |
| 19:46.57 | leifmadsen | 512000 KB / 360KB/min = minutes ? |
| 19:47.14 | jsmith | 512,000 KB divided by 6 KB/second |
| 19:47.21 | leifmadsen | gives me seconds |
| 19:47.22 | leifmadsen | ok |
| 19:47.30 | jsmith | 85,333 seconds |
| 19:47.40 | jsmith | 1422 minutes |
| 19:47.45 | leifmadsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.47 | Juggie | jsmith, leifmadsen is trying to be cheap, dont encourage him |
| 19:47.48 | leifmadsen | ok, so I was right :) |
| 19:47.59 | jsmith | 23.7 hours |
| 19:48.09 | jsmith | So, essentially, you can only talk one (full) day per month |
| 19:48.12 | leifmadsen | Juggie: I could cut my bill from $80 to $47.45 :) |
| 19:48.20 | leifmadsen | jsmith: that's not too bad for a 500MB data plan :) |
| 19:48.33 | Juggie | leifmadsen, whats wrong w/ a good data plan |
| 19:48.36 | Juggie | er, voice plan |
| 19:48.38 | jsmith | Assuming you use the data (only) for voice |
| 19:48.38 | leifmadsen | Juggie: I think I'm gonna keep the same plan, and just run all my day time and long distance calls over 3G when I can |
| 19:48.47 | leifmadsen | jsmith: right |
| 19:49.03 | leifmadsen | Juggie: nothing, just that Rogers is effin' expensive ;) |
| 19:49.04 | Juggie | mine is 20$ plan gives me 350min/unlimited eve/weekends after 6. |
| 19:49.19 | Juggie | you'd be better off w/ my5 or something and routing your calls that way. |
| 19:49.23 | leifmadsen | ya but you're odd in that you've hustled the system |
| 19:49.34 | leifmadsen | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 19:49.41 | leifmadsen | that's interesting too :) |
| 19:49.43 | Juggie | leifmadsen, btw, does a data session stay up roaming between towers :) |
| 19:49.50 | leifmadsen | Juggie: oh that's a good question too! |
| 19:49.52 | jsmith | leifmadsen: That still sounds expensive ... 3.5 cents per minute |
| 19:49.52 | leifmadsen | things to try! |
| 19:50.07 | leifmadsen | jsmith: heh... better than the $30/300 mins I have now |
| 19:50.08 | Juggie | jsmith, yes if you never use any evening/weekend minutes. |
| 19:50.26 | Juggie | the more weekend/evening you use, the less your day minutes cost |
| 19:50.28 | leifmadsen | Rogers is not cheap during the day -- we don't have your nice unlimited voice plans here in Canada :) |
| 19:50.41 | Juggie | leifmadsen, you can get unlimited incomming, or my5 etc. |
| 19:50.53 | Juggie | my5 is only 10$ for local. |
| 19:51.28 | Juggie | or you can just do what i do and call and husstle the system |
| 19:52.31 | leifmadsen | Juggie: ya well, I've tried that several times, and I think I've gotten to the plan that best works... I use a lot of SMS |
| 19:52.38 | leifmadsen | so I always need a text plan, which is like $20 alone |
| 19:52.42 | leifmadsen | I can't seem to get around that |
| 19:52.50 | leifmadsen | if only I could find a way to send SMS via Asterisk :) |
| 19:52.58 | Juggie | leifmadsen, your paying for what 2500 sms? |
| 19:53.01 | Juggie | 500 isnt enough? |
| 19:53.35 | Juggie | i have the 5$/500 plan :) |
| 19:53.41 | Juggie | was a special offer thats now gone. |
| 20:07.18 | leifmadsen | Juggie: well ya, you have all the special offers - my plan would be cheap too if I had all that crazy stuff |
| 20:07.36 | Juggie | all you have to do is call |
| 20:08.07 | file | loyalty and retention, it's a good thing |
| 20:08.45 | Juggie | http://pastebin.ca/1475830 |
| 20:08.57 | Juggie | 21.25 is from some LD i used :) woops. |
| 20:09.52 | Juggie | would be 34$ w/o those overages |
| 20:11.36 | leifmadsen | Juggie: is that an online bill you copied that from? |
| 20:11.55 | Juggie | oui |
| 20:12.15 | leifmadsen | wonder if I have that setup :) |
| 20:12.19 | Juggie | hahaha |
| 20:12.20 | Juggie | you douch |
| 20:12.28 | Juggie | how can you not have online billing! |
| 20:12.56 | Juggie | http://pastebin.ca/1475831 |
| 20:13.01 | Juggie | the last line is my favorite part :) |
| 20:15.04 | leifmadsen | Juggie: I have paper bills so it is easier to file for business |
| 20:18.48 | leifmadsen | I have 350 daytime/unlimtd eve/weekends ($40) + 500MB data w/ voicemail + callerID ($35) per month |
| 20:23.44 | leifmadsen | interesting... I can't find anywhere to change my password for rogers portal |
| 20:23.45 | leifmadsen | nice |
| 20:26.12 | leifmadsen | haha, according to the email it should ask me to change the password. It doesn't. |
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