| 02:12.37 | leifmadsen | Juggie: you should just ask the question so I can respond when I return :) |
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| 02:48.56 | Juggie | leifmadsen: :) |
| 02:49.29 | Juggie | ever setup sendmail as a gmail relay |
| 02:49.33 | Juggie | i think i helped you do it |
| 02:49.44 | Juggie | and i formatted and cant find good directions now :) |
| 03:01.50 | Juggie | leifmadsen? |
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| 11:00.55 | leifmadsen | Juggie: I went to bed :) |
| 11:01.08 | leifmadsen | ya.... I think I still have one of my virtual machines that does that......... but I have to find which one |
| 11:41.27 | leifmadsen | Juggie: ping? |
| 11:41.41 | leifmadsen | Juggie: when you get back, get with me so we can schedule a time to get queuemetrics installed |
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| 13:45.47 | jsmith | Good Monday, all! |
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| 13:51.12 | eliel | good morning! |
| 13:51.32 | eliel | jsmith: you asked about an application with optional middle parameters and required parameter at the start and end: ChannelRedirect is an example of that: ChannelRedirect(channel,[[context,]extension,]priority) |
| 13:51.56 | jsmith | eliel: Oooh, gotcha... I'll add that to my test of applications to test. |
| 13:52.04 | jsmith | s/test of/list of/ |
| 13:52.04 | russellb | that syntax is insane |
| 13:52.05 | russellb | heh |
| 13:52.53 | jsmith | russellb: Like I said last week... my syntax generator is going to be longer than any other part of the XSLT |
| 13:52.53 | russellb | i bet |
| 13:52.53 | jsmith | made some good progress on it over the weekend |
| 13:52.53 | russellb | this is what you get when everything is written without any rules in place |
| 13:52.54 | jsmith | No kidding... |
| 13:53.14 | jsmith | "We can fix all that in Asterisk 2.0" <-- famous last words |
| 13:53.20 | russellb | yup |
| 13:53.32 | leifmadsen | starting to think priority[,extension[,context]] is the better format :) |
| 13:54.02 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Only if the destination is the very last parameter... otherwise, we've got the same issue |
| 13:54.19 | leifmadsen | ah right |
| 13:54.40 | leifmadsen | goes back to bludgeoning baby seals |
| 13:55.34 | leifmadsen | btw: why does youtube have a 10 minute maximum on videos... ugh |
| 13:56.08 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Because every minute, there's something like 10 hours worth of video uploaded to their servers |
| 13:56.21 | leifmadsen | hmmm... perhaps :) |
| 13:56.32 | leifmadsen | splitting a 1 hour conference talk into 6 bits is kinda annoying though :) |
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| 14:22.12 | russellb | leifmadsen: use a different site then :-) |
| 14:27.04 | leifmadsen | suggestions? :) |
| 14:27.11 | leifmadsen | chooses not to host the files himself :D |
| 14:27.27 | leifmadsen | hmmmm... wonder if file would notice if I was streaming 100MB video files from his server... |
| 14:27.42 | file | probably not for awhile. |
| 14:28.23 | leifmadsen | Still gonna use YouTube for now |
| 14:28.29 | leifmadsen | I was joking about streaming from your server ;) |
| 14:28.53 | jsmith | leifmadsen: If I recall, vimeo allows for longer videos |
| 14:29.19 | leifmadsen | I'm also thinking there was a place recently that I saw that allowed you to upload asterisk related videos... |
| 14:51.33 | Juggie | youtube? :) |
| 14:52.30 | Juggie | leifmadsen, web hosting w/ unlimited bandwidth though is a dime a dozzen |
| 14:53.34 | leifmadsen | Juggie: --> <leifmadsen> btw: why does youtube have a 10 minute maximum on videos... ugh |
| 15:10.25 | Juggie | vimeo is good i hear |
| 15:10.29 | Juggie | as stated |
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| 20:02.59 | cc6 | does anyone have experience with the aa50 |
| 20:05.33 | jsmith | does |
| 20:06.28 | cc6 | i cannot get ip330 phone to register on the machine.... for that fact i cant get any phones to register I have updated the firmware, added the the exten to users and sip.conf |
| 20:49.38 | cc6 | looking for a step by step on aa50 setup with poly ip330 |
| 20:52.38 | jsmith | I don't know if such a thing exists |
| 20:52.48 | jsmith | If I weren't so darn busy, I'd write something up |
| 20:53.07 | jsmith | It should be pretty easy though... are you sure you don't have an outbound proxy configured on the Polycom that's pointing somewhere else? |
| 20:53.19 | jsmith | (you might also ask in #asterisk-gui, or contact Digium support) |
| 20:56.18 | leifmadsen | if I had a AA50, I'd try to write one up even :) |
| 20:56.32 | leifmadsen | jsmith: how goes this week sir! Monday #1. |
| 20:57.19 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Not bad... just catching up from training last week |
| 20:57.25 | jsmith | leifmadsen: (and doing a bit of xslt work) |
| 20:58.56 | cc6 | Everything is new out of the box |
| 20:59.19 | cc6 | we have an inbound trunk that works and VM will pick up. |
| 20:59.33 | cc6 | The extension (6100) will dial VM fine |
| 20:59.55 | cc6 | none of the extensions will register with system to receive calls. |
| 21:00.20 | jsmith | Without any more information, I still maintain it's probably a configuration problem on the polycom |
| 21:00.33 | jsmith | I have exactly 5 minutes before my next phone call... I can help you in the meantime |
| 21:00.54 | jsmith | Open up the Polycom web configuration for one of the phones |
| 21:01.22 | cc6 | k |
| 21:01.57 | cc6 | what do I need to do |
| 21:02.14 | jsmith | Make sure the extension number for the phone is entered in the "Address" and "Auth User ID" fields |
| 21:02.34 | jsmith | Make sure the SIP password for that phone is entered in the "Auth Password field" |
| 21:02.58 | cc6 | that is done |
| 21:03.00 | jsmith | Under "Server 1", make sure the "Address" field is the IP address of the AA50 |
| 21:03.07 | jsmith | and the port is set to 5060 |
| 21:03.16 | cc6 | done |
| 21:03.30 | jsmith | Last but not least, go to the "SIP" tab and make sure that there isn't an outbound proxy set |
| 21:03.37 | jsmith | (or that it's set to the IP address of the AA50) |
| 21:04.04 | cc6 | ok |
| 21:04.40 | cc6 | done |
| 21:10.42 | leifmadsen | jsmith: what is our next step in the xslt processing stuff, and how close are we to modifying drupal? Seems like we must be getting close. I know you're doing a lot of work on the xslt stuff though. |
| 21:11.53 | jsmith | I've been working on the XSLT stuff (mostly the syntax generator) |
| 21:12.15 | jsmith | Once that's done, and all the apps/funcs/actions/agi commands have XML documentation, then we'll do the Drupal piece |
| 21:12.16 | leifmadsen | right |
| 21:12.25 | leifmadsen | coolio -- I think all the docs are done now |
| 21:12.30 | jsmith | Oh? |
| 21:12.31 | jsmith | Cool... |
| 21:12.34 | leifmadsen | eliel and I had a bug open which is now closed |
| 21:12.41 | leifmadsen | I finished it all up on Friday |
| 21:12.42 | jsmith | Guess I better get my act together then, huh? |
| 21:12.48 | jsmith | I saw a bunch got added over the weekend |
| 21:12.52 | leifmadsen | lol |
| 21:12.58 | jsmith | and I've been working on the XSLT thing as much as possible |
| 21:12.58 | leifmadsen | well, you're not that far beind, it was only closed over the weekend :) |
| 21:13.03 | leifmadsen | yep, that was the remainder of the apps from what eliel has told me |
| 21:13.05 | jsmith | It's getting closer... |
| 21:13.13 | leifmadsen | oh ya, I know you've been working hard on it |
| 21:13.21 | leifmadsen | my question was just a curiosity question :) |
| 21:13.27 | jsmith | It's one of those things that should take two hours and has already taken around 20 |
| 21:13.33 | leifmadsen | not a, "jeebuz, are you done that thing yet?!" |
| 21:13.49 | leifmadsen | yep... is always the way |
| 21:14.12 | leifmadsen | just like chapter 3 in TFoT that I thought I was going to update one morning, until I realized I really just need to re-write the whole chapter |
| 21:15.06 | leifmadsen | my internet connection is pretty much useless until this video finishes uploading... weeee |
| 21:15.43 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Too bad that's not the only chapter that needs to fresh start :-( |
| 21:16.07 | leifmadsen | jsmith: oh don't I know it |
| 21:16.21 | leifmadsen | plus I still don't quite know how we're going to handle multiple versions of 1.6.x |
| 21:16.31 | jsmith | We're not |
| 21:16.51 | jsmith | We're going to write for 1.6.0, let people know what the plan is for 1.6.1, 1.6.2, etc... and they'll do OK |
| 21:16.53 | leifmadsen | well to a certain extent we need to going forward, like a "first introduced in 1.6.1" |
| 21:17.09 | jsmith | It's not like we covered 1.4.0, 1.4.1, and 1.4.2 |
| 21:17.29 | leifmadsen | no, but 1.6.0 and 1.6.1 contain different features, which Asterisk 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 didn't have |
| 21:17.46 | jsmith | in theory, sure... |
| 21:17.57 | leifmadsen | depends what you're documenting, but still |
| 21:18.01 | jsmith | I happen to remember what a bumpy ride 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 were |
| 21:18.06 | leifmadsen | we should have a plan of how to handle that stuff |
| 21:18.10 | leifmadsen | agreed |
| 21:18.26 | jsmith | The problem is, there's no easy way of figuring out when those things changed |
| 21:18.31 | jsmith | (we can now that we have things in XML) |
| 21:18.38 | jsmith | (assuming we want to do some work) |
| 21:19.57 | leifmadsen | for example, some of the chapters I might want to write about some cool new feature in one of the later 1.6.x releases for the Potpourri chapter (or some other chapter). Because by the time we actually get that far, there might be some really cool new features that are quite handy to talk about |
| 21:20.12 | leifmadsen | either that, or we specifically write about each version, and create new branches for that release |
| 21:20.32 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Too much work for too little gain |
| 21:20.36 | leifmadsen | since, from what I've heard from Mike, when you order a book, it's going to be more of a "print on demand" kind of thing |
| 21:20.52 | jsmith | Seriously? |
| 21:20.58 | leifmadsen | there still has to be some sort of versioning in place |
| 21:21.01 | jsmith | What about bookstores, etc? |
| 21:21.26 | leifmadsen | jsmith: bookstores will get X number of copies when they order of the current version |
| 21:21.45 | leifmadsen | anyways, I didn't mean to discuss 2 separate things at once |
| 21:21.53 | leifmadsen | the logistics of how that would all work has not been determined |
| 21:22.02 | jsmith | I know... just more work that I would *like* to do, but will never be able to tackle |
| 21:22.29 | leifmadsen | but I'm still of the opinion some sort of version system needs to be attached to the documentation |
| 21:22.46 | leifmadsen | at least for certain features, like a "first introduced in ..." thing |
| 21:23.10 | leifmadsen | which would be more for the later chapters -- installation, dialplan, etc... should all be essentially the same thing since it'll be general enough |
| 21:23.31 | leifmadsen | like, dialplans from the first book will probably largely work in 1.6 since they are not that specific |
| 21:23.48 | jsmith | Sure... I'd do it another way |
| 21:24.09 | leifmadsen | I guess there will just be some sort of Note at the beginning of any section that is not first introduced in 1.6.0 |
| 21:24.27 | jsmith | I'd say that if we add anything to the book that wasn't in 1.6.0, we should simply say "To use this example, you'll need to be running at least version 1.6.Y" |
| 21:24.41 | leifmadsen | ok, so we're in agreement then |