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| 15:21.30 | magumbade | @lmadsen - hello |
| 15:22.02 | magumbade | how are you? |
| 15:23.23 | magumbade | we talked long time ago...I took the bootcamp with Jared in Huntsville in January |
| 15:31.49 | lmadsen | oh I'm not bad. Just making from breakfast |
| 15:45.15 | magumbade | @jsmith - hi jared |
| 15:45.45 | magumbade | this is dorian |
| 15:45.58 | magumbade | from allnet |
| 15:46.11 | magumbade | how are you? |
| 15:52.14 | jsmith | Not too bad |
| 15:52.16 | jsmith | How are you? |
| 15:52.28 | magumbade | stress :-) |
| 15:52.36 | jsmith | Oh? |
| 15:52.37 | magumbade | because of the bootcamp |
| 15:52.43 | magumbade | the first one in germany |
| 15:52.56 | jsmith | Right... |
| 15:53.00 | jsmith | Anything I can do to help? |
| 15:53.14 | magumbade | well...yeah..I hope |
| 15:53.41 | magumbade | upgrade my account @ digium so that I can download the training stuff |
| 15:53.51 | magumbade | I did it over another account... |
| 15:54.07 | magumbade | the last version I found is from april...is that right? |
| 15:56.06 | magumbade | this bootcamp will be on the 1.4.22 |
| 15:56.28 | jsmith | Yes, that's correct |
| 15:56.34 | magumbade | for the next trainings we would like to upgrade to the new concept |
| 15:56.47 | magumbade | with basic and advanced training based on 1.6.x |
| 15:56.48 | jsmith | We have not updated the slides since April, as we've been working on the Asterisk Advanced and Asterisk Fast Start classes |
| 15:56.54 | jsmith | correct |
| 15:57.05 | jsmith | Both the Advanced and Fast Start classes are based on 1.6 |
| 15:57.14 | jsmith | I'll have the Advanced material posted today, if you want to look at it |
| 15:57.19 | magumbade | ok...I could not find any documentation on it |
| 15:57.27 | magumbade | yes please |
| 15:58.33 | magumbade | do you have any PXE ready image for the training PC's fro download? it would save some time....if not, I can clone the machien with clonezilla |
| 15:59.02 | jsmith | magumbade: Yes, I can give you the kickstart file and help you get PXE booting set up |
| 15:59.40 | jsmith | Give me a few minutes |
| 15:59.56 | magumbade | I got an old file from the downloads |
| 16:00.21 | magumbade | CentOS-5.0-student-kickstart.cfg |
| 16:01.02 | jsmith | Yes, that will work |
| 16:01.16 | jsmith | We're using CentOS version 5.2 now, but the kickstart should be almost identical |
| 16:01.21 | jsmith | (except for the version of CentOS) |
| 16:01.48 | magumbade | we are building brand new pc's |
| 16:04.58 | magumbade | for the bootcamp..... |
| 16:05.06 | magumbade | 5.2 should fly on them |
| 16:15.36 | magumbade | Schuyler talked about new BRI drivers |
| 16:16.04 | magumbade | we can test them....BUT where can we download them? |
| 16:27.11 | jsmith | They're part of the latest DAHDI driver |
| 16:27.33 | lmadsen | 2.1.0-tools+2.1.0-linux-rc3 (or whatever the exact file name is) |
| 16:27.48 | lmadsen | but its the 2.1.0 release candidates that have the BRI dirver |
| 16:27.50 | lmadsen | driver* |
| 16:28.04 | jsmith | magumbade: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2008-November/035243.html |
| 16:29.02 | magumbade | we have already 3 people for the dCap exam on friday |
| 16:29.23 | jsmith | Great! |
| 16:29.32 | jsmith | will post an updated dCAP exam as well |
| 16:30.35 | magumbade | yeah...thx |
| 16:44.53 | magumbade | any plans for a new o'reilly book based on 1.6? |
| 16:45.12 | magumbade | or a "digium press" book? |
| 16:45.43 | jsmith | Not anytime soon |
| 16:45.43 | lmadsen | none at this time |
| 16:45.47 | lmadsen | we're all swamped |
| 16:45.50 | jsmith | Too many other projects I'm failing at |
| 16:46.13 | lmadsen | just found out he may be off-loading a major project he's been working on for a year to someone else |
| 16:46.44 | magumbade | will be nice to have one for the future trainings...since they are all based on 1.6.x |
| 16:47.17 | jsmith | magumbade: Yes, I know. But until I find time to re-write the book for 1.6, we'll be stuck with the old book |
| 16:48.17 | file | tons to do, not enough time |
| 16:48.20 | magumbade | if I can give you a hand, just tell me...I would do my best to help...if I can find the time |
| 16:49.02 | jsmith | OK. |
| 16:49.48 | jsmith | file: and always too much month left at the end of the paycheck, right? |
| 16:50.22 | file | jsmith: no! at least not for myself. |
| 16:50.26 | magumbade | jsmith,file: that's true |
| 16:51.36 | lmadsen | jsmith: amen |
| 16:52.11 | lmadsen | jsmith: when an entire paycheque goes to mortgage/maintenance-fees... then ya... its tight :) |
| 16:52.15 | lmadsen | needs to give himself a raise |
| 16:52.26 | file | lmadsen: you should move here! |
| 16:52.34 | lmadsen | oh that reminds me I have to look at my end-of-year draft for the accountant |
| 17:08.03 | magumbade | jsmith: I have to leave now...thx for your help |
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| 19:40.00 | lmadsen | jsmith: do you know why you were a part of that email... ? |
| 19:40.04 | lmadsen | (from Jan) |
| 19:40.33 | jsmith | lmadsen: Only guess is because I'm her manager |
| 19:41.02 | lmadsen | ahh |
| 19:41.10 | lmadsen | learn something new every day |
| 19:41.27 | Alric | waves! |
| 19:42.45 | lmadsen | well this is one way to keep you subscribed to a newsletter... don't link to an unsubscribe in the email, and give you this form... |
| 19:42.46 | lmadsen | http://leifmadsen.com/images/cant-unsubscribe-how-much-fun.png |
| 19:43.10 | Juggie | lmadsen, i know how you feel, my mortgage is 1440/mo :) thats almost a cheque, but not quite. |
| 19:43.22 | Juggie | still the mortgage and one bill can kill an entire cheque |
| 19:46.52 | Alric | Bills are bad |
| 19:49.03 | lmadsen | mmmkay |
| 19:49.28 | lmadsen | Juggie: yep same here... my mortgage+maintenance kills an entire paycheque for me (about the same amount you're saying... mines around $1400) |
| 19:49.49 | Alric | Sounds expensive. |
| 19:53.49 | lmadsen | well living in downtown toronto is a bit pricey ya... but I don't have to pay for a car or parking |
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| 20:23.31 | magumbade | hello...back again |
| 20:23.49 | magumbade | jsmith: for this bootcamp |
| 20:24.02 | jsmith | magumbade: Yes? |
| 20:24.13 | magumbade | should I still use zaptel or already dahdi? |
| 20:24.23 | magumbade | since 1.4.22 supports both |
| 20:24.39 | jsmith | The materials all say zaptel, so go ahead and use zaptel for that class |
| 20:24.52 | jsmith | The 1.6 classes will obviously use DAHDI |
| 20:26.00 | magumbade | ok....sure...I will mention dahdi too...just to make sure that the people will not get the feeling that we are offeering some old stuff |
| 20:26.21 | lmadsen | note that there is no chan_zap... its call chan_dahdi, but it compiles against zaptel |
| 20:26.56 | magumbade | lmadsen: thx, I ma just recompinling everithing on my notebook now |
| 20:27.04 | lmadsen | might want to real Zaptel-to-DAHDI.txt in your asterisk source if you haven't already. It answered a bunch of my own questions before. |
| 20:27.23 | magumbade | already done |
| 20:27.48 | magumbade | I was not sure what is the "official line" I had to follow |
| 20:28.35 | lmadsen | either do I :) |
| 20:39.31 | magumbade | jsmith: sandrella told me in january that digium wanted to offer the possibility to make the dCap exam online (like Cisco or MS) and that digium also want's to offer a kind of online preparation for the dCap exam with a pool of similar questions |
| 20:39.59 | jsmith | magumbade: Yes, that's our eventual goal. We're not there yet, and Sandrella no longer works for the company |
| 20:40.12 | magumbade | I heard that she left |
| 20:41.54 | magumbade | any schedule for that? |
| 20:48.51 | magumbade | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.31 | jsmith | magumbade: Sorry, my internet connection is really bad today |
| 21:11.10 | magumbade | jsmith: they disconencted today one of the biggest spammmer ISP...your conenction should be better |
| 21:12.18 | magumbade | except this was also your provider :-) |
| 21:13.23 | jsmith | Naw... I'm trying to upload the new Asterisk Advanced slides, and my internet connection drops when I do uploads |
| 21:13.39 | magumbade | check MTU size |
| 21:14.24 | magumbade | decreasing MTU could help |
| 21:16.01 | lmadsen | calls Roger's to bitch about his inability to unsubscribe from the newsletter |
| 21:16.29 | jsmith | magumbade: That's not the problem... the problem is that I'm trying to upload 175mb through a cell phone connection :-p |
| 21:16.46 | Alric | chuckles. |
| 21:16.53 | lmadsen | giggles |
| 21:17.00 | lmadsen | elbows Alric in the ribs |
| 21:17.02 | magumbade | a 3g one? |
| 21:17.19 | Alric | Hey leif! How much do you know about AIC-9410 raid controllers? =) |
| 21:19.01 | lmadsen | ummmm... less than zero? :) |
| 21:19.34 | Alric | I've got a Supermicro box with an AIC-9410 controller. It seems RedHat / CentOS removed the drivers for it in the 5.0 release. |
| 21:19.42 | lmadsen | oh fun |
| 21:19.56 | lmadsen | might have to recompile the kernel then I guess... :S |
| 21:19.59 | Alric | I don't even remember how I got CentOS working in the first place. |
| 21:20.06 | lmadsen | lol, I hate that |
| 21:20.14 | lmadsen | been there, done that |
| 21:20.35 | Alric | It seems Debian etch has compatibility. |
| 21:21.23 | Juggie | lmadsen, just mark it as spam in google mail :) |
| 21:21.33 | lmadsen | Juggie: nah... I wanna bitch at rogers :) |
| 21:21.45 | lmadsen | technically I think it's illegal to send me email like this |
| 21:22.10 | Alric | Just skip the middleman and report them to Juggie. He is still Gov right? |
| 21:22.26 | Juggie | i called them last weeek to pretend to order TSN2 (even thouh i know they dont have it) and i eventually said i was considering canceling if i coudnt get it, and they gave me a HDPVR free for 2 years, a 150$/credit (if i agreed to stay for a year) and 3 free months of cable. |
| 21:23.24 | Alric | I have free premium cable for the price of basic. |
| 21:23.40 | Juggie | haha... silly company forgot to install your filter :) |
| 21:23.48 | Alric | No, they remembered. |
| 21:23.59 | Juggie | you gave them $$ to forget? :) |
| 21:24.01 | Alric | Our tech came in and said "Uhh, I'm terribly sorry, but this filter doesn't work." |
| 21:24.23 | magumbade | alric: by default rhel5 and suse ent10 offers support for the aic94xx |
| 21:24.23 | Juggie | or did you remove it yourself. |
| 21:24.41 | magumbade | debian did not recognized the controller during the installation |
| 21:24.59 | magumbade | I think vmware also support this |
| 21:25.03 | Alric | Hmmm |
| 21:25.19 | Alric | My tests with CentOS produce no hard drives found. |
| 21:25.22 | Juggie | lmadsen, rogers is at least rolling out SDV |
| 21:25.26 | Juggie | which is hot. |
| 21:25.28 | Alric | 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2 |
| 21:25.38 | Juggie | did you load the module? |
| 21:25.39 | Alric | SDV? Standard Definition Video? |
| 21:25.46 | Juggie | Switched Digital Video |
| 21:25.58 | magumbade | CentOS 5.0 should have the module, 5.1 and 5.2 not |
| 21:26.16 | Juggie | basically, your neighbourhood node doesnt broadcast a channel (presuming its SDV) if no one is watching it. |
| 21:26.22 | Juggie | which saves tremendous bandwidth |
| 21:26.56 | Juggie | essentially the channels that are SDV enabled become VOD |
| 21:27.02 | Juggie | though not quite. |
| 21:27.55 | lmadsen | Juggie: I'm just an idiot and am quite blind |
| 21:27.57 | lmadsen | finally found the link |
| 21:28.27 | Alric | magumbade: I'll try 5.0 again. |
| 21:28.50 | magumbade | alric: it's a productive server or just a test machine? |
| 21:29.24 | Alric | Right now its a test, but I could see using it in production. |
| 21:30.11 | lmadsen | holy crap... I feel like I've been busy all day, but have no idea why I have like no billable time |
| 21:30.12 | magumbade | I tried also vmware ESXi but I was very unhappy with the performance ans stability... |
| 21:30.22 | lmadsen | likes vmware server |
| 21:30.54 | magumbade | finally I had to install suse enterprise 10 for the production server... |
| 21:31.09 | magumbade | runns better than expected |
| 21:31.46 | magumbade | * magumbade does not like suse at all |
| 21:32.03 | lmadsen | me either |
| 21:32.22 | lmadsen | I'm just a centos bigot though... because I don't know any other distro, and care not to learn |
| 21:33.09 | magumbade | lmadsen: I started with suse around 1995 |
| 21:33.42 | magumbade | at that time...you called them and imediatelly you had a guru at the end of the line |
| 21:34.16 | magumbade | then...worser and worser...got more commercial...the suse kernel was crap |
| 21:34.28 | magumbade | and so on |
| 21:34.55 | magumbade | finally I changed to debian for servers...and ubuntu on the notebooks |
| 21:35.17 | magumbade | and since bootcamp centos |
| 21:36.23 | Juggie | centos is a top quality distro |
| 21:36.50 | lmadsen | agreed |
| 21:36.54 | magumbade | yeah, that's right |
| 21:37.09 | magumbade | I had at the beginning some troubles with SElinux |
| 21:37.10 | Juggie | and using rpmforge and centos-extras make it even more awesome. |
| 21:37.19 | Juggie | i dont even enable selinux usually. |
| 21:37.24 | Juggie | we dont run any internet exposed servers. |
| 21:37.45 | lmadsen | and epel |
| 21:37.46 | magumbade | it was by mistake enabled by someone else |
| 21:37.59 | lmadsen | I don't enable selinux either |
| 21:38.01 | Juggie | its easy to disable but requires a reboot |
| 21:38.15 | Juggie | lmadsen, how you likeing having a new pimp pad |
| 21:38.30 | magumbade | and after changing the levels...something got's wrong and we had to reinstall the server :-) |
| 21:38.40 | Juggie | my sister is moving to downtown to work for hydro one |
| 21:38.46 | Juggie | i'm telling her to avoid your building! |
| 21:38.51 | magumbade | cause no process could start anymore whithout selinux signature |
| 21:39.04 | Juggie | you just need to disable it |
| 21:39.06 | lmadsen | Juggie: enjoying quite a bit. I painted my bedroom on the weekend. Gotta wait for the g/f to come for a visit though so I can finish painting. I didn't want to move the bed for fear of scratching the floors |
| 21:39.08 | Juggie | no need to mess w/ rules |
| 21:39.19 | lmadsen | Juggie: lol |
| 21:39.28 | Juggie | lmadsen, you should get things for the bottom fo your bed so it doesnt scratch |
| 21:39.30 | lmadsen | Juggie: are you afraid my pimp pad will impress her too much? :) |
| 21:39.33 | Juggie | is it a steel frame? |
| 21:39.37 | lmadsen | wood |
| 21:39.47 | lmadsen | actually I do have pads now... maybe I'll put those on later tonight |
| 21:39.49 | Juggie | just buy like those felt pads you can get @ home depot etc |
| 21:39.52 | lmadsen | then I could actually finish painting! |
| 21:39.59 | lmadsen | ya, I have a bunch actually. Just recently got them |
| 21:40.03 | Juggie | ya they are handy |
| 21:40.09 | Juggie | i've actually just been looking today for some storage |
| 21:40.11 | lmadsen | my slow brain didn't really think about putting them on the bed :) |
| 21:40.18 | Juggie | so i can move all the junk out of my house |
| 21:40.24 | Juggie | and get ready for selling next year |
| 21:40.28 | Juggie | need to do some painting, etc. |
| 21:40.29 | lmadsen | I put some on my bar chairs and under my recliner |
| 21:40.35 | lmadsen | selling already? |
| 21:40.42 | lmadsen | painting is a pain.... |
| 21:40.44 | Juggie | ya, bought a new house a while ago.. |
| 21:40.51 | lmadsen | I guess that's why paint is mostly made up of pain |
| 21:40.58 | lmadsen | so you have 2 houses? |
| 21:41.00 | lmadsen | jeebuz :) |
| 21:41.05 | Juggie | no, its not ready until oct09 |
| 21:41.08 | lmadsen | I'm guessing the 2nd one isn't built yet |
| 21:41.12 | Juggie | correct. |
| 21:41.25 | lmadsen | I figure I'll be here for a while yet |
| 21:41.39 | Juggie | gf takes up too much space |
| 21:41.43 | Juggie | plus no garage, etc. |
| 21:41.45 | lmadsen | I see no reason to move into something bigger until I have a live in g/f or something |
| 21:41.53 | Juggie | i do. |
| 21:41.58 | lmadsen | and knowing my history, that won't happen for a while :) |
| 21:42.13 | lmadsen | plus the new g/f has her own place that she moves into in december |
| 21:42.34 | file | how is the new g/f doing? you seem to be love struck by her |
| 21:43.17 | Juggie | just wait till she starts making rules :P |
| 21:43.23 | Juggie | and calling 'to talk' |
| 21:44.00 | Alric | Wow, has it really been 5 years? |
| 21:45.10 | Alric | Amazing./ |
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| 21:52.17 | magumbade | well guys...in europe is night now and tomorrow will be a long day...time to go to bed...good night |
| 21:59.17 | lmadsen | Alric: ya... channel was registered 5 years ago as of Nov. 14th |
| 21:59.27 | lmadsen | file: nah... she's just cool still :) |
| 21:59.35 | lmadsen | but yes, I've kept her around |
| 21:59.47 | Alric | Or she's kept you around |
| 22:00.00 | lmadsen | Juggie: luckily she doesn't do that... she'll call just to say hi, but never keeps me more than 10 mins |
| 22:00.04 | lmadsen | Alric: touche :) |
| 23:41.42 | Juggie | lmadsen, keeping the place clean? :P |
| 23:49.02 | lmadsen | Juggie: ummm... ya not too shabby |
| 23:49.13 | lmadsen | not a whole lot of space to clean up if it gets crazy though |
| 23:49.25 | lmadsen | even at its worse, I can still clean up in around an hour or so |
| 23:50.36 | lmadsen | anyone here use xchat? |
| 23:51.07 | lmadsen | under Preferences in the URL link command box... what do you have? somehow mine got reset, and now I don't remember what was there :) |
| 23:51.11 | lmadsen | using OSX if that matters |
| 23:54.49 | lmadsen | figured it out |
| 23:55.01 | Juggie | ya, my place is a pain, i hate the carpet |
| 23:55.10 | lmadsen | luckily I pulled all mine out |
| 23:55.17 | Juggie | and the cat makes the carpet suck, i have a bagless vacume and i can empty it every time i vacume |
| 23:55.20 | lmadsen | and I only have 600 sqft to keep cleaned |
| 23:55.27 | Juggie | did you do anything w/ your tiles? |
| 23:55.36 | Juggie | or do you have any |
| 23:56.06 | lmadsen | I have tiles... limestone I think, but whoever lived here before didn't have them sealed, so they are pretty much fucked |
| 23:56.46 | lmadsen | I tried cleaning them with a mild soap and a scrub brush, but didn't really help much... almost made it worse because you have to make sure you clean each tile individually or it soaks up the water and leaves spots |
| 23:57.13 | Juggie | ya thats what i'm going through right now |
| 23:57.19 | Juggie | i just realized mine wernt sealed |
| 23:57.28 | lmadsen | ouch |
| 23:57.28 | Juggie | i'm having someone come over to clean them tomorow and seal them |
| 23:57.33 | lmadsen | how much? |
| 23:57.42 | lmadsen | ask them what they are using to clean them |
| 23:57.45 | Juggie | 200 for the porch, kitchen and two bathrooms. |
| 23:57.47 | Juggie | steam. |
| 23:57.50 | lmadsen | ah |
| 23:58.01 | Juggie | steam/vacume and then seal. |
| 23:58.05 | lmadsen | not too bad... how many sqft is that? |
| 23:58.15 | Juggie | ummm... i'm guessing 400-500max |
| 23:58.32 | lmadsen | better than the price I got from these other guys... like $1.75/sqft or something. I could replace them for that much |
| 23:58.42 | lmadsen | lol... almost the same space as my condo :) |
| 23:58.48 | Juggie | well, they were never sealed but i didnt realize |
| 23:58.55 | lmadsen | ask them if they have a toronto outlet |
| 23:58.57 | Juggie | they will be just fine once they are sealed as they arnt really dirty. |
| 23:59.11 | lmadsen | ya thats good... mine I think are beyond a simple steaming |
| 23:59.18 | Juggie | you can just replace the grout |
| 23:59.22 | Juggie | or are the tiles stained too |
| 23:59.28 | Juggie | the tiles shoudn't stain |
