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| 14:23.03 | lmadsen | morning all |
| 14:23.54 | file | moo |
| 14:28.59 | lmadsen | don't you moo at me |
| 14:31.36 | ctooley | bleh |
| 14:39.50 | lmadsen | downloads of the book stats: |
| 14:39.51 | lmadsen | 2008 - January - 59,117 |
| 14:39.51 | lmadsen | 2008 - February - 66,720 |
| 14:39.51 | lmadsen | 2008 - March - 70,713 |
| 14:39.51 | lmadsen | 2008 - April - 64,876 |
| 14:39.51 | lmadsen | 2008 - May - 65,813 |
| 14:40.46 | file | neat |
| 14:41.15 | lmadsen | indeed |
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| 14:45.59 | ctooley | has downloaded it twice this year. |
| 14:46.23 | ctooley | has also bought it twice and yet still has zero copies. |
| 14:52.34 | lmadsen | that sucks :( |
| 14:52.40 | lmadsen | ctooley: we'll get you one at AstriCon for sure |
| 14:52.54 | lmadsen | unless you come to Toronto before then :) |
| 14:53.21 | ctooley | lmadsen, eh, not necessary. |
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| 15:06.12 | Alric | That was interesting |
| 15:09.03 | lmadsen | oh was it now |
| 15:10.35 | Alric | Yeah |
| 15:11.00 | Alric | What would make Asterisk respond with a 401 Unauthorized to a register? |
| 15:11.29 | Alric | This phone worked yesterday, nothing has changed that I can tell, and now its getting Unauthorized :D |
| 15:14.15 | jsmith | Alric: Is it now behind a firewall? |
| 15:14.30 | jsmith | Alric: And is it registering to an IP address instead of a DNS name? |
| 15:14.37 | jsmith | may just have the answer |
| 15:15.07 | Alric | It was behind a firewall before, and its registering to an IP address. |
| 15:15.18 | Alric | It was and continues to be behind a firewall. |
| 15:18.29 | jsmith | lmadsen: Wrote a quick outline for the third edition... |
| 15:18.35 | jsmith | Alric: But a different firewall this time, right? |
| 15:18.42 | jsmith | Alric: Or did something change on the firewall? |
| 15:18.45 | lmadsen | w00t! |
| 15:19.06 | jsmith | Alric: In a nutshell, I'll bet that the firewall is rewriting the IP address, but the IP address is used to help calculate the nonce hash |
| 15:19.15 | jsmith | Alric: So the nonce doesn't end up matching |
| 15:19.18 | lmadsen | makes sense to me |
| 15:19.24 | lmadsen | or there is a cached nonce somewhere |
| 15:19.28 | jsmith | Alric: Have the phone register to "blah.example.com" instead of "129.123.1.1" |
| 15:19.57 | file | SIP aware firewall ftl |
| 15:20.09 | jsmith | file: Exactly.... |
| 15:20.19 | lmadsen | ftl? |
| 15:20.20 | jsmith | Alric: This wouldn't be a PIX firewall by chance, would it? |
| 15:20.24 | jsmith | lmadsen: For the Loss |
| 15:20.39 | lmadsen | really? |
| 15:20.58 | Alric | I don't think its a PIX, its just some type of RoadRunner DSL router. |
| 15:21.10 | lmadsen | oh there's your problem :) |
| 15:22.54 | file | lmadsen: your face is a problem! |
| 15:23.02 | Alric | Same router as yesterday. Reportedly nothing has changed on the far end. |
| 15:23.04 | lmadsen | doesn't seem to be |
| 15:23.16 | lmadsen | *reportedly* :) |
| 15:23.49 | lmadsen | I love asking customers, "what has changed?", and they are like, "nothing", and i'm like, "no, but really, what did you change?", customer says, "oh I just moved the phone to a new location" |
| 15:24.05 | Alric | Yes, I say reportedly for that reason :) |
| 15:24.20 | Alric | In about 4 hours after I have no hair left I'll find out RR changed out the router or something |
| 15:25.31 | jsmith | Alric: Can you get a SIP trace (especially from both ends?) |
| 15:25.40 | Alric | I can get a SIP trace from this end. |
| 15:26.07 | jsmith | OK... with debug set to 5, verbose set to 5, debug enabled on the console in logger.conf, and sip debug turned on? |
| 15:26.08 | Alric | Thats about as good as it gets though. |
| 15:29.43 | Alric | Okay, thats huge. |
| 15:29.59 | Alric | trying to cut it down so I can actually read it |
| 15:33.47 | Alric | http://www.pastebin.ca/1043918 |
| 15:33.52 | Alric | That looks like a complete transaction |
| 15:36.01 | jsmith | Weird... and you have a section in sip.conf called "1038c", I presume? |
| 15:36.11 | Alric | in realtime, yeah. |
| 15:36.12 | jsmith | (with type=peer and host=dynamic)? |
| 15:36.19 | Alric | type=friend |
| 15:36.23 | jsmith | What's the output of "sip show peer 1038c" |
| 15:37.34 | Alric | http://www.pastebin.ca/1043921 |
| 15:39.36 | jsmith | Weird... that's an awfully old version of firmware on that Polycom |
| 15:39.43 | jsmith | Other than that, nothing really stands out at me |
| 15:39.59 | jsmith | Except for this: Ignoring SIP message because of retransmit (REGISTER Seqno 1, ours 1) |
| 15:40.06 | Alric | Yep |
| 15:40.15 | jsmith | file: Any idea what that means? |
| 15:40.47 | Alric | I wonder if I have new firmware laying around. |
| 15:42.29 | file | is that the full trace? |
| 15:43.06 | Alric | Well its registering over and over |
| 15:43.42 | Alric | and I have about 40 other phones registering at any given time, so full on debug and sip debug on this phone's IP generates vast amounts of debug. |
| 15:43.47 | jsmith | file: Yes, it's not like it's ever getting a "Proxy Auth Required" |
| 15:44.25 | Alric | but I'm looking over and ethereal trace and I see those three SIP messages over and over |
| 15:44.32 | Alric | REGISTER, Trying, and Unauthorized |
| 15:45.29 | file | REGISTER uses 401 |
| 15:45.52 | jsmith | Oh, gotcha |
| 15:46.15 | lmadsen | maybe the endpoint isn't getting the 401 back, and thus, isn't sending the 2nd REGISTER with the nonce / auth |
| 15:46.22 | file | nods |
| 15:46.31 | lmadsen | that's what it sounds like to me |
| 15:46.48 | lmadsen | what is the IP address it is returning to -- maybe you don't have nat=yes ? |
| 15:47.00 | Alric | I have nat=yes |
| 15:49.37 | Alric | Actually, I can't guarantee that the endpoint is hearing anything I'm transmitting |
| 15:53.05 | ctooley | Alric, what kind of phone is on the other end? |
| 15:57.24 | Alric | Polycom 501 |
| 15:58.23 | ctooley | Alric, it should have the ability to do a SIP trace in the web interface... i think. |
| 15:58.30 | Alric | oh really? |
| 16:03.22 | jsmith | ctooley: Yeah, in an ideal world |
| 16:03.40 | ctooley | jsmith, I seem to remember it having that capability. |
| 16:03.42 | jsmith | ctooley: When pigs fly backward in the wind wearing Air Tooleys |
| 16:03.49 | jsmith | ctooley: Oh?!? |
| 16:03.58 | ctooley | I think there was some XML flag you had to allow debugging in the http interface |
| 16:04.15 | ctooley | s/had to/had to set/ |
| 16:04.28 | ctooley | hasn't done phones in a long time. :( |
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| 16:06.04 | Alric | I'm poking around. |
| 16:06.30 | Alric | So far my googleFu is failing me. |
| 16:07.07 | oej | So what's the issue with registration? |
| 16:07.27 | jsmith | oej, meet Alric. Alric, meet oej |
| 16:07.31 | oej | Hello Alric |
| 16:07.35 | jsmith | (Alric came to the first AstriCon way back when...) |
| 16:07.37 | file | oh eh jay! |
| 16:07.38 | oej | I saw the pastebin |
| 16:07.52 | oej | eff aj ell eeeee |
| 16:08.07 | oej | The phone sends an unauthenticated REGISTER, asterisk challenges. Seems fine. |
| 16:08.18 | oej | The Original Astricon (TM) |
| 16:08.24 | oej | Cool stuff. |
| 16:08.38 | ctooley | OA |
| 16:08.51 | Alric | Yeah, I was in the original SIP discussion thing on the last day. |
| 16:08.53 | ctooley | Which will eventually just be shorted to A |
| 16:09.00 | ctooley | and confusion will abound. |
| 16:10.00 | Alric | I'm in the process of trying to secure a test point for the endpoint. |
| 16:10.31 | ctooley | Alric, without a trace from the far side, it's going to be tough. |
| 16:10.36 | Alric | Yeah |
| 16:10.53 | file | ctooley: eh! |
| 16:11.27 | lmadsen | DACAA |
| 16:11.30 | ctooley | file, ok, yeah, that took me a second. |
| 16:11.59 | ctooley | doesn't always hear Canadian in his head. |
| 16:12.17 | ctooley | Nor the voices of Bob and Doug |
| 16:12.30 | lmadsen | McKenzie! |
| 16:13.45 | file | lmadsen: pizza! |
| 16:13.56 | lmadsen | do NOT tempt me |
| 16:13.57 | ctooley | oej, If I provide you with the 300 Multiple choices patch (which creates Contact headers per the spec instead of crappy data in the body of the message), how long do you think it'll be before you get around to taking a look at it? |
| 16:14.03 | file | lmadsen: you know you wanna |
| 16:14.22 | lmadsen | file: I know I do! |
| 16:14.23 | oej | ctooley: This week |
| 16:14.23 | lmadsen | that's the problem |
| 16:14.31 | ctooley | has been searching for a mouse in a beer bottle for years and never seems to find one. |
| 16:14.36 | file | lmadsen: have to treat yourself some time |
| 16:14.44 | ctooley | But, I've gone through a LOT of beer bottles in search of one. |
| 16:14.44 | lmadsen | file: I treat myself too much :) |
| 16:14.52 | lmadsen | ctooley: hear ya, hear ye! |
| 16:14.56 | file | lmadsen: your point? |
| 16:15.04 | lmadsen | file: my body is not an amusement park |
| 16:15.09 | ctooley | lmadsen, I think he's talking about treating himself to pizza |
| 16:15.14 | file | lmadsen: females might disagree! |
| 16:15.17 | ctooley | We don't want to talk about what you treat yourself to. |
| 16:15.24 | lmadsen | file: hahaha... ya, the girls love me :) |
| 16:15.34 | lmadsen | Erin just called me to make sure I didn't get run over by a train |
| 16:16.14 | file | lmadsen: celebrate with pizza |
| 16:16.22 | lmadsen | lol |
| 16:16.29 | lmadsen | are you trying to get me to order you a pizza? |
| 16:16.34 | file | no! |
| 16:16.46 | lmadsen | I think I finally fixed my polycom so it doesn't lose registration |
| 16:16.48 | file | but if I'm going down I'm taking someone else with me |
| 16:16.58 | lmadsen | oic |
| 16:17.18 | lmadsen | I need to try and go to bed by 10pm tonight so that I can get up at 7am to go to the gym again |
| 16:17.25 | lmadsen | I haven't done that in... jeebuz... maybe 3 weeks |
| 16:17.27 | lmadsen | I was doing so good too |
| 16:17.41 | lmadsen | I am wondering how many more times I can start a sentence with 'I' |
| 16:18.21 | file | I think quite a few |
| 16:18.33 | lmadsen | I am in agreement with that |
| 16:19.22 | ctooley | J |
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| 16:20.16 | oej | Is there a topic for this chat room? |
| 16:20.29 | file | the topic is there is no topic |
| 16:20.29 | lmadsen | Is there a topic for this chat room? |
| 16:20.30 | lmadsen | [12:20] * Topic for #asterisk-doc is: Welcome to the Asterisk Documentation Project / Idle Chat, a subsidiary of telcomjoshleifvoxmartenterprisesinc --=-- Asterisk: The Future of Telephony: ISBN13: 9780596514051 --==-- 2nd Edition of TFoT now shipping! --> http://tinyurl.com/382dz2 --==-- blitzrage: at the rate I'm (not) thinkin' this morning, I'm afraid to do any work --==-- Please give ideas for 3rd edition of TFoT t |
| 16:20.30 | lmadsen | o lmadsen and jsmith! |
| 16:20.50 | oej | Ok |
| 16:20.55 | oej | So you got many ideas then :-) |
| 16:20.59 | lmadsen | :) |
| 16:21.22 | lmadsen | this chat room is kinda for us to have a self chat and debugging for our own problems, and to pass around ideas |
| 16:21.27 | lmadsen | we're very lax on the rules in here :) |
| 16:23.58 | oej | Så det gör inget att jag pratar svenska? |
| 16:24.08 | lmadsen | absolutely not |
| 16:24.39 | oej | Cool. thanks. JAg fortsätter med svenska i så fall. |
| 16:24.42 | jsmith | I don't speak Svenska |
| 16:26.28 | Alric | --Update-- Endpoint unplugged from his RoadRunner cable service, plugged into his DSL service (from another provider) and it works now. |
| 16:26.41 | lmadsen | Alric: nice! |
| 16:26.46 | lmadsen | I've had lots of problems on RoadRunner |
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| 16:27.06 | ctooley | screw you guys, I'm going home. |
| 16:27.18 | Alric | I've heard they block VoIP on IP ranges they offer VoIP for. |
| 16:41.24 | lmadsen | Alric: hahaha... oh good ol' roadrunner |
| 16:41.29 | lmadsen | ctooley: bye! |
| 16:41.31 | lmadsen | :) |
| 16:42.07 | ctooley | Alric, Business Class or Residential? |
| 16:42.29 | lmadsen | I need a shower |
| 16:42.32 | lmadsen | back sooooon! |
| 16:43.13 | jsmith | Alric: Changing providers still doesn't explain why the phone isn't authenticating the REGISTER |
| 16:43.23 | jsmith | Alric: But I'm glad to hear you found a workaround |
| 16:45.32 | Alric | I suspect its Residential. |
| 16:45.58 | Alric | Well if the phone never got any SIP response, wouldn't it just keep sending unauthenticated REGISTERs? |
| 16:54.27 | jsmith-lunch | True, that |
| 17:00.03 | jsmith-lunch | -movieplot |
| 17:00.03 | brac | Summary: He's a scrappy gay vampire hunter with a winning smile and a way with the ladies. She's a mentally unstable hypochondriac safe cracker from aristocratic European stock. They fight crime. |
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