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| 12:48.01 | lmadsen | morning all |
| 12:48.51 | ctooley | afternoon lmadsen, morning everyone else. |
| 12:49.56 | ctooley | There are exactly 3 people in this channel who aren't also in -dev. :) And one of them doesn't count, eharris can be ignored anyway |
| 13:33.26 | lmadsen | :D |
| 15:06.29 | Juggie | lmadsen, what happened with the house |
| 15:06.37 | lmadsen | I didn't buy a house |
| 15:07.10 | Juggie | well condo, etc |
| 15:07.17 | lmadsen | but my mortgage was approved, and my notice of fulfillment went in yesterday, so I am now a condo owner -- closing is June 26th |
| 15:07.26 | Juggie | ah cool, congrats. |
| 15:07.51 | lmadsen | thx :) |
| 15:07.59 | Juggie | i'm looking @ a new house myself :) |
| 15:14.32 | lmadsen | heh, nice :) |
| 15:14.47 | lmadsen | i'm looking at doing a bunch of upgrades and improvements to the condo before I move in |
| 15:14.52 | lmadsen | mostly want to change the flooring |
| 15:15.04 | Juggie | for you, condo, bachlor |
| 15:15.07 | Juggie | go with laminate |
| 15:15.22 | lmadsen | ya, I was thinking hardwood |
| 15:15.23 | Juggie | it looks like hard wood, its fairly indestructable, and its cheaper |
| 15:15.32 | Juggie | hardwood != laminate |
| 15:15.35 | lmadsen | ya, I've put in lots of laminate before |
| 15:15.37 | lmadsen | I know |
| 15:15.40 | lmadsen | I know what laminate is |
| 15:15.41 | Juggie | ah k |
| 15:15.51 | Juggie | but if your going to change the floor dont put in hardwood in the kitchen |
| 15:15.51 | lmadsen | :) |
| 15:15.54 | Juggie | that looks like crap |
| 15:15.55 | lmadsen | you're |
| 15:16.08 | lmadsen | nope, kitchen is going to be granite tile, or cork |
| 15:16.22 | lmadsen | I don't think you realize just how much home renovation stuff I've done in my life :) |
| 15:16.56 | Juggie | i guess not, i dont have a book with leif's life story here |
| 15:17.12 | lmadsen | you should get a copy -- only $5 in the bargain bin |
| 15:17.18 | Juggie | i had to clean some grout this weekend past |
| 15:17.22 | Juggie | what a bitch that was |
| 15:17.45 | lmadsen | oh ya... cleaning grout sucks |
| 15:17.45 | Juggie | i had a bag of garbage in the kitchen and it leaked not sure what it was |
| 15:17.47 | Juggie | and it turned my grout brown/black |
| 15:17.49 | lmadsen | I totally dyed my grout pink here in the condo... :( |
| 15:17.56 | lmadsen | I have to somehow clean it so its not pink anymore |
| 15:18.06 | Juggie | oh ya, i can tell you what you need given my expirence |
| 15:18.08 | lmadsen | apparently they didn't seal the grout here |
| 15:18.13 | lmadsen | nice |
| 15:18.14 | Juggie | the strongest cleaner would be bleach |
| 15:18.31 | Juggie | or if you want to try something less strong, go with oxyclean |
| 15:18.42 | Juggie | which is basically a color safe bleech |
| 15:19.05 | Juggie | i ended up having to go back and get bleech as the oxyclean didnt cut it |
| 15:19.20 | Juggie | oh, and get a grout brush |
| 15:19.30 | Juggie | which is basically a glorified toothbrush |
| 15:20.11 | Juggie | are you going to install the tile/laminate in your new place? |
| 15:22.37 | Juggie | taps foot |
| 15:48.46 | Juggie | lmadsen? |
| 15:49.31 | lmadsen | sorry... I'm working :) |
| 15:49.37 | lmadsen | I know you gov't workers don't quite understand that :) |
| 15:54.42 | lmadsen | not sure about the tile yet -- the tile that is already there will get left for now, I won't have the money to replace that right away. I'll probably put the tile in myself too though since I've done that before. The laminate I'll definitely put in myself, although I'm considering putting in actual hardwood flooring instead of laminate.... ALTHOUGH I might put laminate in now because its cheaper, then put in hardwood fl |
| 15:54.42 | lmadsen | ooring closer to when I might resell the place. This way I don't end up having the hardwood in for 5 years and possibly damaging it |
| 15:56.05 | jsmith | lmadsen: My wife and I put in cheaper engineered hardwood for now, until our kids get older. Then we'll go for the more expensive hardwood |
| 15:56.20 | jsmith | lmadsen: Looks better than laminate, but is half the cost of regular hardwood |
| 15:57.33 | ctooley | jsmith, and kids are a sure-fire way to have whatever is installed destroyed no matter what you do to protect it. |
| 15:58.11 | jsmith | ctooley: I wanted concrete floors with drains so I could just take the power-washer to the floor, but my wife said it would look tacky |
| 15:58.13 | ctooley | I dropped a stove, corner down on one of our tiles in the kitchen and the tile didn't crack, but my kids have matched to break 6 tiles, no idea how. |
| 16:00.21 | lmadsen | ctooley: possibly air pockets beneath the tiles... if the tile isn't put down quite right, you'd be surprised how easy it is to break them |
| 16:00.36 | lmadsen | my Dad broke a tile once just by walking over it |
| 16:01.44 | ctooley | lmadsen, no I don't think so, these were crack breaks, not what you'd see from an air pocket |
| 16:10.49 | Juggie | good laminate is impossible to destroy |
| 16:11.14 | Juggie | ctooley, improperly installed tiles |
| 16:11.25 | Juggie | who ever did it didnt do a good job |
| 16:11.32 | Juggie | sorry if it was you :) |
| 16:12.43 | ctooley | Juggie, you got kids? |
| 16:13.10 | Juggie | no, but i lived in my parents house with my 2 younger sisters |
| 16:13.21 | ctooley | "impossible to destroy" is just a challenge to my kids, and one that they _will_ overcome. |
| 16:13.37 | Juggie | the tile was installed when i was like 10 and my two sisters were 6 and non existant (as alana is 12 years younger then me) |
| 16:13.39 | Juggie | and not one is broken |
| 16:13.59 | Juggie | if the floor has any give at all tiles will break |
| 16:14.11 | Juggie | we added a second layer to the floor before we added tile i believe |
| 16:14.47 | ctooley | I have a cement patio and the kids "borrowed" my drill to put holes in it to plant their flowers in. |
| 16:14.56 | Juggie | hahaha |
| 16:15.06 | Juggie | so i'm having a nice dns problem |
| 16:15.09 | ctooley | ruined the drillbit, put holes in the concrete, and the drill isn't the same |
| 16:15.20 | Juggie | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 16:15.20 | Juggie | www.google.com. 540925 IN CNAME www.l.google.com. |
| 16:15.47 | Juggie | however |
| 16:15.48 | Juggie | [root@DONNY-CENTOS ~]# ping www.l.google.com |
| 16:15.48 | Juggie | ping: unknown host www.l.google.com |
| 16:16.24 | jsmith | host -a www.l.google.com |
| 16:16.34 | ctooley | dig www.google.com |
| 16:16.50 | Juggie | i did, thats where ;; answer section came from |
| 16:16.53 | ctooley | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 16:16.53 | ctooley | www.google.com. 41769 IN CNAME www.l.google.com. |
| 16:16.53 | ctooley | www.l.google.com. 82 IN A 72.14.205.104 |
| 16:16.53 | ctooley | www.l.google.com. 82 IN A 72.14.205.147 |
| 16:16.53 | ctooley | www.l.google.com. 82 IN A 72.14.205.99 |
| 16:16.54 | ctooley | www.l.google.com. 82 IN A 72.14.205.103 |
| 16:17.24 | ctooley | Their DNS servers won't respond to www.1.google.com directly |
| 16:17.30 | ctooley | it's a security feature |
| 16:17.37 | Juggie | hm |
| 16:18.21 | Juggie | the thing is www.google.com does not resolve for me |
| 16:19.02 | ctooley | does for me... and I get the same results for that as you do. |
| 16:19.13 | Juggie | odd |
| 16:19.38 | Juggie | doesnt resolve on my router either |
| 16:19.42 | Juggie | so its not just one box |
| 16:21.39 | Juggie | works now that i removed 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as my dns |
| 16:21.42 | Juggie | and use my isps |
| 16:25.48 | ctooley | Oh, we don't use L3's DNS's anymore, those things are horrible. |
| 16:26.09 | file | I use OpenDNS |
| 16:26.11 | ctooley | Even if we need to point to root-server, we use a different one. |
| 16:30.31 | jsmith | Juggie: Use OpenDNS |
| 16:40.42 | Juggie | hrmf opendns has certainly evolved since i used it last |
| 16:47.59 | Juggie | hmmmm.... |
| 16:48.17 | Juggie | i cant get their search portal thing to work |
| 16:52.52 | lmadsen | Juggie: I've been having those problems too... let me make sure I'm not using the L3 DNS too |
| 16:53.32 | Juggie | hmmm took a while but it seems to be working |
| 16:53.38 | Juggie | i think firefox is interfeering with some stuff |
| 16:54.24 | lmadsen | ya... the last week or so I can't get to www.google.com for some reason, but every other site works |
| 16:54.33 | lmadsen | sometimes I can get there, sometimes I can't... haven't really figured out why |
| 16:54.34 | Juggie | ya |
| 16:54.41 | lmadsen | maybe its Rogers? |
| 16:54.41 | Juggie | i just had that problem |
| 16:54.46 | Juggie | i had to remove L3 dns |
| 16:54.58 | lmadsen | ya... I'm using the default Rogers DNS servers too |
| 16:54.58 | Juggie | i had L3 DNS & dd-wrt and www.google.com |
| 16:55.00 | Juggie | no workey |
| 16:55.10 | lmadsen | ya, I haven't used L3 in a while I guess |
| 16:55.14 | Juggie | but then i switched to rogers and it worked again |
| 16:55.17 | Juggie | maybe its dd-wrt |
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