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| 12:32.59 | file | hey jsmith |
| 12:33.25 | jsmith | Hello |
| 12:33.27 | jsmith | Good morning |
| 12:33.46 | file | how are you? |
| 12:35.57 | jsmith | Not too shabby... and yourself? |
| 12:43.56 | jsmith | Did you get over your case of boredom over the weekend? |
| 12:44.34 | file | I wasn't aware I was bored |
| 12:53.42 | jsmith | Oh, wasn't it you that said "I've gotta do something to relieve this boredom!" on Friday night? |
| 12:55.23 | file | not that I remember |
| 12:55.34 | jsmith | Ah... too bad I didn't have logging turned on :-( |
| 12:55.47 | jsmith | jbot might have it. |
| 12:56.21 | file | alas... |
| 12:56.22 | file | [jcolp@neutrino 2007-06]$ grep -i "boredom" *asterisk-doc* |
| 12:56.22 | file | #asterisk-doc.04.log:04-06-2007 05:50:43 < jsmith!n=jsmith@000-205-270.area3.spcsdns.net: +Did you get over your case of boredom over the weekend? |
| 12:56.22 | file | #asterisk-doc.04.log:04-06-2007 06:00:28 < jsmith!n=jsmith@000-205-270.area3.spcsdns.net: +Oh, wasn't it you that said "I've gotta do something to relieve this boredom!" on Friday night? |
| 12:56.44 | file | nothing! |
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| 13:06.28 | jsmith | I know *nothing* |
| 13:17.26 | Alric | haha |
| 13:17.38 | Alric | Yes Sergeant. |
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| 14:08.44 | jsmith | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/06/free_downloads.html |
| 14:08.45 | brac | [O'Reilly Radar > Free Downloads vs. Sales: A Publishing Case Study] |
| 14:14.09 | Alric | I personally downloaded the book and bought a dead tree copy. |
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| 14:15.57 | file | blitzrage: !!! |
| 14:16.02 | blitzrage | file: !!! |
| 14:16.05 | blitzrage | jsmith: !!! |
| 14:16.07 | blitzrage | Alric: !!! |
| 14:16.09 | blitzrage | Juggie: !!! |
| 14:16.12 | blitzrage | !!!: !!! |
| 14:16.17 | Alric | blitzrage: !!! |
| 14:16.22 | jsmith | blitzrage: Check your email |
| 14:16.27 | blitzrage | jsmith: just logging in now actually |
| 14:16.32 | jsmith | Or, follow this link |
| 14:16.34 | jsmith | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/06/free_downloads.html |
| 14:16.34 | Alric | If I'm going to read something cover to cover, it should be dead tree format. |
| 14:16.36 | brac | [O'Reilly Radar > Free Downloads vs. Sales: A Publishing Case Study] |
| 14:16.45 | blitzrage | jsmith: oh -- is that the Tim blog? |
| 14:16.47 | jsmith | A very non-definitive article by our good friend Tim |
| 14:16.48 | blitzrage | he finally wrote something |
| 14:16.52 | jsmith | Finally |
| 14:16.57 | jsmith | But it wasn't that good, unfortunately |
| 14:17.01 | jsmith | not enough good data |
| 14:17.03 | blitzrage | I've been working with Mike and Jeremy to get Tim the info he has been looking for |
| 14:17.09 | Alric | But later if I want to go back and find something specific, nothing beats the Mac Preview .pdf search :) |
| 14:17.25 | jsmith | Alric: Search in Evince works better than in Mac Preview |
| 14:17.30 | blitzrage | jsmith: ya... we need stats from the other mirrors |
| 14:17.42 | jsmith | blitzrage: Hence my email this morning, which you haven't read |
| 14:17.48 | Alric | jsmith: Mac Preview is default, and it works well enough for me. |
| 14:17.59 | blitzrage | jsmith: just read it now, going to reply -- but I 100% agree with you |
| 14:18.08 | blitzrage | I also want a website just like the Subversion guys |
| 14:18.15 | jsmith | Yeah, that's easy to do. |
| 14:18.17 | blitzrage | where you can read it online |
| 14:18.18 | blitzrage | exactly |
| 14:18.22 | jsmith | I can do that easily now that we have the DocBook |
| 14:18.22 | blitzrage | especially now with docbook |
| 14:18.25 | blitzrage | lol |
| 14:18.31 | blitzrage | great minds think a like |
| 14:18.42 | blitzrage | plus when we fix errata, that site will be easy to update |
| 14:19.03 | jsmith | Plus, I think it should be downloadable from the O'Reilly website (even if it's just a link to the actual mirrors) |
| 14:19.18 | blitzrage | for the third edition, I was almost wondering if we should do the same thing, like a rough cuts, but a non-paid version which updates every Sunday or something? |
| 14:19.23 | blitzrage | I would agree as well |
| 14:31.08 | *** topic/#asterisk-doc by blitzrage -> Welcome to the Asterisk Documentation Project / Idle Chat, a subsidiary of telcomjoshleifvoxmartenterprisesinc --=-- Help write the next O'Reilly book! -- The Asterisk Cookbook: http://etel.wiki.oreilly.com/ --==-- Asterisk: The Future of Telephony: ISBN13: 9780596514051 --==-- Free Downloads vs. Sales (of TFoT): http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/06/free_downloads.html |
| 14:31.32 | *** topic/#asterisk-doc by blitzrage -> Welcome to the Asterisk Documentation Project / Idle Chat, a subsidiary of telcomjoshleifvoxmartenterprisesinc --=-- Help write the next O'Reilly book! -- The Asterisk Cookbook: http://www.asteriskcookbook.com--==-- Asterisk: The Future of Telephony: ISBN13: 9780596514051 --==-- Free Downloads vs. Sales (of TFoT): http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/06/free_downloads.html |
| 14:31.55 | file | moo |
| 14:38.12 | jsmith | file: Yes? |
| 14:38.40 | file | just a moo |
| 14:47.55 | blitzrage | http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=97759aa27a0c99bff671 |
| 14:48.01 | blitzrage | that is awesome :) |
| 14:48.04 | brac | [GodTube.com - Baby Got Book] |
| 14:48.06 | blitzrage | (yes, this is work/family same :)) |
| 14:48.12 | blitzrage | s/same/safe/ |
| 14:49.09 | blitzrage | woh... GAIM == pidgen |
| 14:49.13 | blitzrage | pidgin* |
| 14:49.15 | Alric | ? |
| 14:49.28 | jsmith | Yes, gaim is now pidgin, thanks to trademark problems |
| 14:49.36 | blitzrage | oh fun :) |
| 14:49.43 | blitzrage | my FC6 just updated |
| 14:49.44 | jsmith | And yes, they changed the icon to a purple pidgeon |
| 14:49.45 | Alric | iChat ftw. |
| 14:50.00 | jsmith | blitzrage: You should try FC7 -- especially on your lovely broadcom wireless |
| 14:50.09 | jsmith | blitzrage: It works *much* better on F7 |
| 14:50.27 | blitzrage | well, I think the BC wireless is screwed -- I have been using a vaio PCMCIA card since geekweek |
| 14:51.07 | blitzrage | hrmmm, I wanna upgrade, just need to find the time -- I think I even left an extra partition just for that purpose... |
| 14:51.23 | blitzrage | we'll see though |
| 14:51.45 | blitzrage | ok, I gotta grab a bowl of cereal |
| 14:51.49 | blitzrage | I have 9 mins until a conference call |
| 14:52.21 | Juggie | blitzrage, did you poke her? : |
| 14:52.23 | Juggie | :P |
| 14:52.48 | blitzrage | Juggie: ....who? |
| 14:52.59 | blitzrage | the girl I was hanging out with this weekend? No |
| 14:53.09 | Alric | Pamela? |
| 14:53.12 | blitzrage | Paula |
| 14:53.23 | jsmith | blitzrage: Did you introduce Paula to your family? |
| 14:53.26 | blitzrage | I haven't been seeing Pamela for over a month |
| 14:53.32 | blitzrage | jsmith: to my grandma, yes |
| 14:53.41 | Juggie | i ment paula! |
| 14:53.41 | blitzrage | we drove up to Port Elgin this weekend |
| 14:53.49 | Juggie | blitzrage, i am disapointed in your skills |
| 14:53.52 | Juggie | i fear you are being used :) |
| 14:54.01 | blitzrage | no, we just held hands at the punch bowl all weekend |
| 14:54.23 | blitzrage | Juggie: nah... it's just complicated -- I'm not rushing anything with this girl. I like her too much. |
| 14:54.24 | Juggie | you poor boy :) |
| 14:54.55 | blitzrage | ya well, it happens :) |
| 14:57.53 | blitzrage | Can anyone tell me what Timeout Restart really does? Alric gave me a possible answer... but it was still confusing |
| 14:59.00 | jsmith | Timeout Restart? |
| 14:59.15 | Alric | Queue option |
| 14:59.27 | blitzrage | jsmith: yes sir -- queue option |
| 14:59.43 | jsmith | Ok, I know about the Timeout option in queues.conf |
| 14:59.52 | jsmith | There's a "timeout restart" option? |
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| 15:02.53 | blitzrage | ya, and I have no idea what it does |
| 15:03.02 | blitzrage | ctooley: queues.conf > timeoutrestart option? |
| 15:03.37 | ctooley | blitzrage: No clue, I'm still queue-newbie in Asterisk |
| 15:03.41 | blitzrage | gotcha |
| 15:04.13 | ctooley | blitzrage, gotta figure them out soon, we're moving 20 queues from 4 call centers back into Asterisk in August, but at the moment, no clue. |
| 15:04.34 | blitzrage | ; If timeoutrestart is set to yes, then the timeout for an agent to answer is |
| 15:04.34 | blitzrage | ; reset if a BUSY or CONGESTION is received. This can be useful if agents |
| 15:04.34 | blitzrage | ; are able to cancel a call with reject or similar. |
| 15:04.47 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.54 | blitzrage | I don't understand why that would be useful... |
| 15:05.05 | blitzrage | aren't you just introducing additional latency... ? |
| 15:05.24 | blitzrage | almost sounds like it still waits the full timeout period upon rejection of the call |
| 15:07.14 | Alric | You have a polycom? |
| 15:08.59 | blitzrage | yes sir |
| 15:09.06 | blitzrage | wow, I ate breakfast before 2pm today |
| 15:17.10 | jsmith | blitzrage: Does it have to do with the "logout on timeout" function? |
| 15:17.19 | jsmith | blitzrage: That's the only thing I can think of, off the top of my head |
| 15:20.58 | Alric | Whee. |
| 15:21.16 | Alric | Wedding in just a few days. So weird. |
| 15:22.59 | blitzrage | jsmith: hrmmmmmm |
| 15:23.06 | ctooley | Alric, Congrats |
| 15:23.10 | blitzrage | jsmith: possible... will look into it shortly |
| 15:23.22 | jsmith | Alric: Gee... that makes me feel old |
| 15:24.01 | Alric | 6 days, 7 hours, 36 minutes and 10 seconds. |
| 15:24.02 | Alric | :D |
| 15:24.14 | Alric | I love widgets. |
| 15:28.21 | jsmith | Hey, is there a way to drop the D-channel on a single span, then bring it back up? |
| 15:28.54 | Alric | service zaptel restart? :) |
| 15:30.05 | jsmith | To do that, I've gotta bring down *all* of Asterisk |
| 15:35.14 | blitzrage | ugh, mosquito bites suck |
| 15:42.11 | Alric | unload chan_zap.so? |
| 15:42.44 | Alric | Running zttool on that particular span and putting it in loopback would probably also take just that T1 down. I don't know of a way to bounce a d channel though. |
| 15:43.32 | jsmith | I did that, but it wouldn't loop |
| 15:43.36 | jsmith | (probably because it was in use) |
| 15:47.49 | Alric | I don't suppose you can physically unplug the T1 either? |
| 15:55.38 | jsmith | Alric: It's 1000 miles away |
| 15:55.45 | jsmith | Alric: But yes, that was my next choice |
| 15:56.30 | Alric | jsmith: Oh fun. You could probably get a zap restart span command written for cheaper than the trip would cost... |
| 15:56.56 | jsmith | Luckily, the problem fixed itself |
| 15:57.02 | jsmith | (on the phone with the telco now) |
| 15:57.39 | Alric | Fun |
| 16:54.16 | blitzrage | snuffy22: congrats on your first accepted patch! |
| 16:54.29 | blitzrage | (at least first known to me :)) |
| 16:55.24 | blitzrage | ok, not much going on today (for a Monday, that's incredible), so I'm going for a jog... back soon! |
| 17:35.58 | Alric | Well well |
| 17:36.06 | Alric | I now have my $42 piece of paper that says I can get married. |
| 17:37.43 | jsmith | Isn't that special... |
| 17:37.56 | jsmith | Whatever you do, make sure you get *plenty* of copies of the marriage certificate |
| 17:38.02 | jsmith | You'll need it for all kinds of things |
| 17:38.14 | Alric | Like what? |
| 17:42.15 | jsmith | Changing names on driver's licenses, passports, social security cards, etc. |
| 17:42.21 | jsmith | You'll need a bunch of copies... trust me |
| 17:45.12 | Alric | Crazy |
| 17:45.21 | Alric | I think its just starting to sink in :D |
| 18:06.49 | blitzrage | and is crazy sweaty... so I'm going to shower, then eat lunch :) |
| 18:06.59 | Alric | Didn't you just have breakfast?!? |
| 18:08.13 | file | that's hawt |
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| 18:43.18 | jsmith | file: Got a second to help me with a silly ASR problem? |
| 18:43.46 | file | after I finish typing up a note, yes |
| 18:43.52 | file | okay - shoot |
| 18:45.16 | file | well... don't shoot ME |
| 18:45.19 | file | but you can shoot blitzrage |
| 18:46.55 | blitzrage | w00t |
| 18:46.57 | jsmith | file: Figured it out. |
| 18:47.01 | blitzrage | Alric: breakfast was at 11am... |
| 18:47.06 | blitzrage | which was just a bowl of cereal |
| 18:47.12 | Alric | and it was only 1pm... |
| 18:47.32 | file | yay |
| 18:47.43 | jsmith | file: Actually, maybe not :-( |
| 18:49.05 | file | what isssssss it |
| 18:49.13 | jsmith | file: I've got a situation where I'm not getting back anything for SPEECH_SCORE(0) or SPEECH_TEXT(0) |
| 18:49.23 | jsmith | file: I've turned up verbose and debug to 999 |
| 18:49.33 | jsmith | file: I've reloaded res_speech_lumenvox |
| 18:49.42 | jsmith | file: reloading the module doesn't complain about the grammars |
| 18:50.05 | jsmith | file: And no errors/warnings/notices are printed when I call the speech applications |
| 18:50.13 | jsmith | file: I just simply don't get anything back :-( |
| 18:50.16 | file | what version of Asterisk |
| 18:50.21 | file | what version of connector |
| 18:51.17 | jsmith | Asterisk SVN-branch-1.4-r55869 built by root @ localhost.localdomain on a i686 running Linux on 2007-05-18 06:59:58 UTC |
| 18:52.40 | file | copy over speech stuff from the latest 1.4 and rebuild |
| 18:52.50 | file | res_speech.c app_speech_utils.c and speech.h |
| 18:53.24 | jsmith | LumenvoxSRE_7.1.211 |
| 18:53.25 | jsmith | OK... |
| 18:53.27 | jsmith | Updating now |
| 18:53.42 | file | actually... |
| 18:53.45 | EduHard | excuseme, how can I access to the asterisk channel? |
| 18:53.53 | jsmith | EduHard: You have to register your nick |
| 18:53.54 | file | I have a new connector build to do |
| 18:53.54 | file | like |
| 18:53.55 | file | now |
| 18:53.58 | jsmith | file: w00t! |
| 18:54.03 | jsmith | file: I'd be happy to test it |
| 18:54.09 | file | I forgot we changed the structure definition |
| 18:54.14 | EduHard | at asterisk.org? |
| 18:54.22 | jsmith | EduHard: No, with the IRC server. |
| 18:55.26 | jsmith | EduHard: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering |
| 18:56.52 | file | jsmith: they want me to stop the 7.1 connector builds, but the 7.5 *may* continue to work fyi |
| 18:57.24 | jsmith | Oh, if I can download 7.5, that works too. |
| 18:57.35 | jsmith | Might take me an hour to download, but I'm happy to do it. |
| 18:57.58 | EduHard | thanks for your help... on my way. see you. |
| 19:00.03 | jsmith | file: Downloading the gargantuan 7.5 files... I'll check back with you in 30 minutes when they're downloaded |
| 19:01.12 | *** part/#asterisk-doc EduHard (n=user@proxy.donto.com.ar) |
| 19:01.12 | jsmith | LumenVox set up a yum repo? |
| 19:01.20 | jsmith | Wow... |
| 19:02.03 | file | did they? |
| 19:03.05 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 19:04.00 | file | sent btw |
| 19:05.05 | jsmith | Thanks. |
| 19:11.13 | jsmith | file: Thanks... that fixed it |
| 19:11.45 | file | the structure definitions the connector was built against differed from that which your Asterisk had |
| 19:12.55 | jsmith | Ah... I see. |
| 19:13.34 | jsmith | Changes are good... it means someday we'll support the funky new "return an object with a bunch of members" stuff, right?!? |
| 19:14.41 | file | hush you! |
| 19:15.03 | jsmith | C'mon, you know that's my way of saying "Thanks, you've saved my bacon again" |
| 19:16.27 | file | hrm... bacon |
| 19:18.54 | jsmith | Alric: The way I'm going, it's not going to be more than another day or two |
| 19:19.00 | Alric | Although it may be more effective time/cost/money-wise to just send him a herd of pigs... |
| 19:19.28 | Alric | jsmith: Going to be in Texas this weekend? =) |
| 19:19.54 | jsmith | Alric: I wish I could make it, but it's just not gonna be possible... I gotta fly to Seattle this weekend. |
| 19:20.07 | Alric | Seattle! |
| 19:20.12 | Alric | That sounds no fun. |
| 19:23.20 | jsmith | Gotta go teach a class |
| 19:23.43 | jsmith | Another week, another city, another class, another group of Asterisk trainees |
| 19:25.33 | jsmith | file: Any idea if/when LumenVox will support RHEL5? |
| 19:25.49 | file | jsmith: maybe. |
| 19:25.59 | file | I try not to talk to them much |
| 19:26.08 | file | it usually ends with them wanting me to do more stuff |
| 19:26.11 | jsmith | I can understand that. |
| 19:30.25 | Alric | Mainly because I haven't seen a good way to go from CentOS 4.4 to CentOS 5.x, but Debian doesn't seem to have problems with upgrades like that. |
| 19:33.11 | jsmith | Sure it does... ever tried to go from one Debian major release to another? |
| 19:33.14 | jsmith | It's not seamless either |
| 19:33.21 | Alric | Actually, I have. |
| 19:33.58 | Alric | It worked for me. |
| 19:34.50 | jsmith | Didn't work for me... otherwise, I'd probably be using Debian today |
| 19:34.59 | file | nothing is perfect. |
| 19:35.40 | Alric | Friend of mine swears by Debian, citing easy upgrades as one of the reasons. |
| 19:36.30 | jsmith | I never do upgrades between major versions anyway -- they're always painful, no matter the OS |
| 19:36.50 | jsmith | Because unless you've got a pristine install (without any third-party packages, etc.) it'll always bite you. |
| 19:37.12 | Alric | Most of my installs are pretty pristine, save for Asterisk. |
| 19:37.29 | Alric | As I understand your definition of pristine, anyway. |
| 19:43.28 | Alric | Wow, 4.4 -> 5.0 is a task indeed. |
| 19:43.35 | jsmith | Why's that? |
| 19:44.48 | Alric | Just a ton of hoops to jump through |
| 19:45.24 | Alric | Makes me want to switch to flash-based operation and just take a new flash card out to customers to "upgrade" them. |
| 21:11.01 | blitzrage | any ideas why I would see something like...: |
| 21:11.12 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.13 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.13 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.13 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.16 | blitzrage | <repeating> |
| 21:11.32 | jsmith | Re-invites? |
| 21:11.39 | jsmith | That keep resulting in a Packet2Packet bridge? |
| 22:24.26 | jsmith | file: Ping? |
| 22:24.46 | jsmith | file: Silly question... Background() won't work inside of a macro -- will SpeechBackground()? |
| 22:26.32 | file | sure. |
| 22:26.52 | file | I think. |
| 22:35.10 | Juggie | jsmith if memory serves me correctally, in a macro you need to use read() |
| 22:35.20 | Juggie | but, i might have drempt that |
| 22:35.59 | snuffy22 | i know i definately use read inside my macros |
| 23:43.05 | jsmith | Juggie: Yes, in a Macro you need to use Read() |
| 23:43.27 | jsmith | And yes, SpeechBackground works fine inside of a macro -- in fact, I've been using it for 9 weeks and didn't realize it |
| 23:45.10 | file | lol |
| 23:45.15 | file | good |
| 23:45.21 | file | it doesn't use the same internal API that Background does |
| 23:45.31 | file | although it should... but "it just works" |
| 23:45.57 | file | so I refuse to touch it |
| 23:51.15 | jsmith | :-) |