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| 02:21.23 | blitzrage | people in #asterisk make my laugh |
| 02:21.51 | blitzrage | s/my/me/ |
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| 13:23.18 | file | jsmith! |
| 13:23.28 | jsmith | Yessir! That's me! |
| 13:23.40 | file | how goes? |
| 13:23.56 | jsmith | Getting ready to flip the switch on an upgrade of one of my biggest clients |
| 13:24.03 | file | ut roh |
| 13:24.03 | jsmith | from 1.2 to 1.4 |
| 13:24.10 | jsmith | Ought to be a fun day :-( |
| 13:24.25 | Juggie | shoudnt you do that after business hours |
| 13:24.56 | jsmith | We should, but they felt it was inconvenient for all involved |
| 13:25.10 | jsmith | So we're just gonna shut down their call center, swap a couple of IPs, and give it a shot |
| 13:25.21 | Juggie | well you know that all production upgrades should be after hours |
| 13:25.22 | jsmith | If it doesn't work, we'll swap IPs back and continue on as if nothing happened |
| 13:25.28 | jsmith | Yes, I know |
| 13:25.31 | Juggie | so if anything happens, i'll laugh :) |
| 13:25.40 | jsmith | I managed 6500 servers in my former life |
| 13:25.50 | jsmith | I know the "right" thing to do |
| 13:26.01 | jsmith | But when the client doesn't wanna do what's right, I bow to their wishes |
| 13:30.40 | Juggie | i recall this conversation with you @ the first astricon i attended in 05 :) |
| 13:30.56 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 13:30.59 | Juggie | i believe you managed alot of HP servers and thats what we had just installed |
| 13:31.01 | file | gah users |
| 13:31.07 | Juggie | we talked about lights out. |
| 13:31.09 | jsmith | Luckily, it's 7:30 there, so it's not like it's in the middle of the day |
| 13:31.12 | file | when I say fixed in 1.4 SVN and trunk I don't mean fixed in the latest release |
| 13:31.41 | Juggie | file, maybe, just maybe, we need a nightly tarball from svn. |
| 13:32.04 | Juggie | anyways, meeting, bbl. |
| 13:37.14 | jsmith | Thanks |
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| 14:06.31 | jsmith | Hello |
| 14:06.50 | blitzrage | hoi |
| 14:07.15 | Alric | And then I have to curse it with Windows XP :( |
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| 14:14.36 | ctooley | how goes it? |
| 14:16.15 | Alric | Today is looking like a glass half full day. |
| 14:21.00 | ctooley | Alric that's good, I hope it is. |
| 14:21.24 | Alric | Yes... pleasant surprise from yesterday's 99% empty day :D |
| 14:22.28 | blitzrage | anyone got an extra asterisk box at a colo facility with decent bandwidth I can use for an hour or two to try and find a SIP bug? |
| 14:23.58 | blitzrage | jsmith: can I use it? |
| 14:24.15 | jsmith | Sure... gimme a second |
| 14:24.28 | jsmith | (trying to put out fires) |
| 14:24.55 | blitzrage | I'm trying to simulate the situation for 9235 |
| 14:24.57 | Alric | Hey blitzen! When you think affordable, reliable, layer 3 rackmount switch, what do you think of? :) |
| 14:24.59 | blitzrage | np |
| 14:25.16 | blitzrage | I don't think about that :) |
| 14:25.21 | file | musttttt wire my apartment.... |
| 14:25.31 | ctooley | Alric I liked HP Procurve switches |
| 14:25.31 | blitzrage | file: mustttttttt make me a salad! |
| 14:25.57 | Alric | HP Procurve eh. |
| 14:26.17 | file | I buy premade salad ^_^ |
| 14:51.42 | Alric | So how do you get broadband to an apartment complex that is surrounded by trees taller than the apartments, is outside DSL range, and is in a city with no digital cable? |
| 14:55.51 | jsmith | EVDO, fiber-to-the-home, satellite |
| 14:56.27 | Alric | EVDO? |
| 14:56.32 | file | cellular |
| 14:56.34 | Alric | No fiber in this city either. |
| 14:58.05 | Alric | Yes, devil company. Nooooo!!!! |
| 14:58.26 | jsmith | Sprint, Verizon, Cingular... take your pick |
| 14:58.43 | Alric | Verizon is particularly picky about access to its data network. |
| 14:58.50 | Alric | Cingular doesn't seem to care as much. |
| 14:58.50 | file | jsmith: what did it do? |
| 14:59.00 | jsmith | DHCP failed on the new server |
| 14:59.08 | file | ah |
| 14:59.08 | jsmith | And they forgot to change the IP on the old server |
| 14:59.14 | jsmith | So now we have two servers with the same IP |
| 15:02.35 | jsmith | Ok, those two problems are fixed |
| 15:02.42 | jsmith | Now we just need to reboot a metric boatload of phones |
| 15:13.25 | file | ugh |
| 15:13.30 | file | they are doing road work right outside |
| 15:36.30 | file | blitzrage: we were just taken over |
| 15:36.54 | file | Breaking news: Qwell Communications (NASDAQ: QwellComm) hostilely takes over Telcomjoshleifvoxmartenterprisesinc - implements TLAv6, which expands TLAs to 6 letters. |
| 15:40.12 | blitzrage | file: WHAT?!?! |
| 15:40.18 | blitzrage | I didn't even get to sell off my stock |
| 15:40.27 | file | too bad :( |
| 15:40.54 | blitzrage | ok, I need lunch so that I can help a client in an hour |
| 15:41.31 | blitzrage | jsmith: no rush on that server, but if you get around to it sometime today, that'd be handy so I can try and reproduce that bug for oej so he can look at it tomorrow (he's offline for the night, and I'm working on stuff this afternoon, so like I said, no rush at all) |
| 16:20.46 | blitzrage | file: you die.... NOW |
| 16:20.58 | Alric | Such hostility. |
| 16:21.39 | blitzrage | we just talk tough... we're too mellow to actually do anything about it :) |
| 16:25.40 | Alric | Sounds like some women I know, all talk no action :D |
| 16:30.06 | file | oh blitzrage! |
| 16:30.08 | file | I know you <3 me |
| 16:30.15 | blitzrage | I <3 you long time |
| 16:31.18 | file | !!! |
| 16:31.44 | blitzrage | but I'm lieing |
| 16:31.48 | blitzrage | because I do that |
| 16:32.18 | Alric | wouldn't that be lying? |
| 16:33.25 | blitzrage | Alric: probably |
| 16:33.29 | blitzrage | buy! buy! |
| 16:35.08 | Juggie | centos 4.5 is out |
| 16:36.36 | blitzrage | schweet |
| 16:47.44 | jsmith | I thought it would |
| 16:47.55 | jsmith | (you might not be happy with the results though) |
| 16:49.10 | Alric | What does that mean? |
| 17:18.30 | blitzrage | ping |
| 17:18.32 | blitzrage | errr... |
| 17:18.33 | blitzrage | jsmith: ping |
| 17:19.27 | jsmith | Pong |
| 17:21.07 | blitzrage | jsmith: do you happen to want to help us try and debug a customer who can't seem to get their phone registered? 3 of their phones register fine, but they can't seem to get a couple other ones to register... we're trying to have them setup the phone on an external IP and set it statically (Polycom 501), but ... I'm starting to run out of ideas (I haven't seen any traffic from the phone on the external IP quite yet |
| 17:21.07 | blitzrage | though) |
| 17:21.20 | blitzrage | ideally... do you have an experience with sonicwall's? |
| 17:27.00 | blitzrage | ya -- lucky you |
| 17:27.02 | blitzrage | those things suck |
| 17:27.07 | blitzrage | had nothing but problems with them |
| 17:28.51 | jsmith | I'd be happy to help out any way I can, though |
| 17:51.53 | blitzrage | jsmith: ok -- confirmed its a sonicwall problem -- so the client is gonna arrange a meeting with sonicwall |
| 17:52.07 | jsmith | Nice |
| 17:52.17 | blitzrage | thx for the offer though |
| 17:52.42 | jsmith | Happy to help |
| 17:52.43 | blitzrage | looks like the firewall isn't sending the 401 Unauthorized back to the phone, so it isn't getting the nonce, thus, can't send a REGISTER with the appropriate auth credentials |
| 17:52.54 | blitzrage | can you help me hear again? |
| 17:52.54 | jsmith | Schweet! |
| 17:52.59 | file | dejavu |
| 17:53.05 | jsmith | Sure... I can help you hear |
| 17:53.17 | file | THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! |
| 17:53.18 | jsmith | Step 1: Go to an audiologist |
| 17:53.33 | jsmith | Step 2: Do what they say |
| 17:53.34 | blitzrage | I think I know the problem though |
| 17:53.37 | jsmith | Oh? |
| 17:53.44 | jsmith | Spiders living in your ear canal? |
| 17:53.54 | jsmith | Pencil eraser? |
| 17:54.03 | blitzrage | I need a headset... holding the phone on my left ear for so long is causing the ear to get really warm... and I think I'm getting a wax buildup |
| 17:54.17 | blitzrage | since there is no pain at all |
| 17:54.20 | jsmith | Sorry, but if it's been going on this long, it's likely more than that |
| 17:54.57 | blitzrage | boooo |
| 17:55.40 | file | blitzrage: GO |
| 17:55.45 | file | don't make me fly up there |
| 17:55.54 | blitzrage | I dare you |
| 17:56.09 | file | I have lots of frequent flyer miles! |
| 17:59.32 | blitzrage | schweet |
| 17:59.34 | blitzrage | bring me a cookie |
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| 19:11.17 | blitzrage | anyone aware of better call flow diagramming software other than Dia for Linux? |
| 19:11.40 | jsmith | The one built into Wireshark? |
| 19:11.44 | blitzrage | no no... |
| 19:12.00 | jsmith | Oh, just flowchart stuff? |
| 19:12.00 | blitzrage | think Visio |
| 19:12.12 | jsmith | Dia or Inkscape |
| 19:12.18 | blitzrage | ok, just checking there wasn't something else I was missing |
| 19:13.45 | blitzrage | inkscape looks like SVG... so not what I want |
| 19:13.52 | jsmith | Of course there is! http://www.ajax13.com/en/ajaxsketch/index.jsp |
| 19:14.01 | jsmith | What's wrong with SVG? |
| 19:14.13 | blitzrage | it looks like a pain in the ass to use |
| 19:14.16 | blitzrage | not at all what I would consider flow charting software |
| 19:14.57 | blitzrage | I'm just gonna use Dia and be done with it since I'm familiar with it |
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| 19:41.04 | blitzrage | isn't there a 'show g729' command? |
| 19:41.06 | blitzrage | or something like that? |
| 19:41.29 | blitzrage | what is the new command in 1.4... ? |
| 20:10.33 | blitzrage | anyone around? |
| 20:10.35 | blitzrage | I have a question :) |
| 20:10.38 | blitzrage | jsmith: ping |
| 20:12.49 | blitzrage | hey, if I'm doing something like Dial(SIP/foo&SIP/bar), and one of those channels is forwarding (302 Redirect), is there a variable set or anything I can check to see what channel was doing the forwarding? |
| 20:30.06 | jsmith | blitzrage: Pong! |
| 20:30.13 | blitzrage | see above |
| 20:30.24 | blitzrage | russellb doesn't think so... |
| 20:31.15 | jsmith | I don't think there is... hold on. |
| 20:32.13 | jsmith | If the channel that was transferred gets bridged, you could check ${BRIDGEPEER} |
| 20:33.30 | blitzrage | yah... I need to check stuff before a bridging happens |
| 20:33.35 | blitzrage | i.e. right after the 302 |
| 20:33.43 | blitzrage | all I got is FORWARD_CONTEXT |
| 20:34.07 | blitzrage | but unfortunately that doesn't tell me what I need... but I might be able to hack something together to at least make it work... |
| 20:34.12 | ctooley | you might be able to use the patch that we wrote to help with that blitzrage |
| 20:34.16 | jsmith | ${DIALEDPEERNAME} * Dialed peer name |
| 20:34.16 | jsmith | ${DIALEDPEERNUMBER} * Dialed peer number |
| 20:34.17 | ctooley | I'll forward it to you |
| 20:35.08 | blitzrage | hrmmm, let me check out these channel variables... although I have a feeling I'm gonna just get the Local channel, and not the peer I wanna know about |
| 20:35.30 | jsmith | DumpChan() is your friend ;-) |
| 20:35.39 | blitzrage | I know |
| 20:35.42 | blitzrage | I use it all the time |
| 20:35.53 | ctooley | We patched app_dial, channel.h, and chan_sip.c to allow chan_sip.c to have a callback method to tell the A leg of a call what the call id of the B leg is so after the bridge goes away you can pull the ${DIALEDCALLID} variable. That callback can be anything though so you could easily change it to ${DIALEDFINPEER} |
| 20:36.01 | jsmith | Especially in combination with the G option to Dial() |
| 20:36.54 | blitzrage | G() isn't gonna help here |
| 20:37.02 | blitzrage | I need to know all the information before I can even place the call |
| 20:37.37 | ctooley | blitzrage oh, then yeah, the callback we use isn't going to help you. |
| 20:38.31 | blitzrage | :) |
| 20:41.51 | jsmith | Huh? |
| 20:42.04 | jsmith | How would you know which peer is sending a 302 before you actually send a call to that peer? |
| 20:42.31 | file | you know I was reading some theoretical stuff... |
| 20:42.58 | file | and found it amusing that *theoretically* the act of trying to pick up tachyons actually create the tachyons and send them back in time slightly |
| 20:43.21 | jsmith | Awesome... it's like the game of "pick up sticks", only worse |
| 20:44.04 | blitzrage | well... I Dial(SIP/foo&SIP/bar) -- lets say, bar decides to send back a 302 Redirect -- I wanna figure out that 'bar' sent the 302, and not 'foo' |
| 20:44.32 | Juggie | maybe you an do it if you dial on local channels? |
| 20:44.47 | blitzrage | file: where did you read that? I think I've read something like that by Brian Greene |
| 20:44.53 | Juggie | eg if you did a dial(Local/sip-foo&Local/sip-bar) |
| 20:44.57 | file | I forget where |
| 20:45.00 | file | I found it amusing |
| 20:45.22 | Juggie | blitzrage, that might be possible, to use chan local to figure out which channel is 302ing. |
| 20:45.35 | blitzrage | hrmmm... this is interesting |
| 20:46.07 | blitzrage | it looks like when you do Dial(SIP/blitzrage&SIP/juggie) that when you set FORWARD_CONTEXT only the 302'd channel gets sent to FORWARD_CONTEXT |
| 20:46.13 | file | Germany was having trouble, what a sad sad story |
| 20:46.35 | blitzrage | although DumpChan doesn't seem to give me anything useful to know which channel forwarded... hrmmmm |
| 20:46.59 | blitzrage | but I do get this msg: |
| 20:47.00 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.20 | blitzrage | which means Asterisk knows which channel.... now only if it would create a variable that contained the SIP/lmadsen6#lmentinc part :) |
| 20:47.22 | file | app_dial hangs up the channel it was dialing, and then fires up a new one using chan_local |
| 20:47.34 | blitzrage | hrmmm.... ok, that makes sense |
| 20:47.47 | file | so the calling channel never really knows |
| 20:47.55 | blitzrage | aye |
| 20:48.41 | blitzrage | yah... it seems like if I did a Dial(Local/lmadsen@call&Local/juggie@call), then I could set the channel name into a channel variable with inheritance, then that might give me the info I needed |
| 20:48.43 | blitzrage | ewwwww though |
| 20:48.44 | blitzrage | ewwww ;) |
| 20:49.07 | file | it would... theoretically be easy... |
| 20:49.07 | file | to add a variable in |
| 20:49.55 | jsmith | chan_sip.c |
| 20:50.04 | jsmith | chan_iax.c |
| 20:50.11 | jsmith | chan_local.c |
| 20:50.19 | jsmith | chan_agent.c (Ok, maybe I've gone too far) |
| 20:50.28 | file | jsmith: what are you babbling aboot? |
| 20:50.36 | jsmith | Where you'd add a variable! |
| 20:50.40 | blitzrage | file: don't ask :D |
| 20:50.41 | file | nope. |
| 20:50.46 | Juggie | you'd add it in app_dial |
| 20:50.48 | file | app_dial |
| 20:51.16 | jsmith | Well, sure... that's the obvious way... |
| 20:51.32 | file | oh you want the unobvious way |
| 20:51.47 | jsmith | Well, I figured it was the underlying channel that knew where the call was being forwarded |
| 20:51.53 | jsmith | I guess that's what I get for thinking |
| 20:51.56 | blitzrage | hrmmm... I did get this to work though... its just a bit messy since I have to "assume" which CLASS to use for the prefix of the dialing string.... |
| 20:52.02 | blitzrage | but at least I fix a bug for now |
| 20:52.06 | file | not exactly |
| 20:52.14 | file | it's really... simple |
| 20:52.35 | file | the channel copies either a number/context or a dial string into a field in the channel's structure |
| 20:52.42 | file | then app_dial checks that field |
| 20:53.20 | file | if it is not NULL then that channel is hungup, and a new channel started either using Local/ with the number and context, or the dial string |
| 20:53.33 | Juggie | file, if its simple, do it! :> |
| 20:53.57 | file | pfft |
| 20:57.06 | file | yarrrrrr it is raining out |
| 20:57.24 | Juggie | file, how do i set a channel variable in code? |
| 20:57.39 | file | pbx_builtin_setvar_helper |
| 20:58.25 | Juggie | blitzrage, i can add that for you |
| 20:58.27 | Juggie | its super easy. |
| 20:58.57 | blitzrage | heh :) |
| 20:59.00 | blitzrage | yap! |
| 20:59.05 | blitzrage | *yet another patch! |
| 20:59.11 | Juggie | hmmm |
| 20:59.24 | blitzrage | Juggie: go for'er.. I'll add it to my patch repo that I patch 1.4 with when I install |
| 20:59.25 | Juggie | whats odd is 'now forwarding.......' is in two places |
| 20:59.29 | Juggie | once in do_forward |
| 20:59.34 | Juggie | and once in dial_exec_full |
| 21:02.41 | jsmith | Hmmmn... me appears to find a re-invite bug with Asterisk 1.4 |
| 21:04.11 | Juggie | file, the piece of code i'm looking @ has two channels chan and tc which i suppose is transfer channel. |
| 21:04.20 | Juggie | i would want to set the var on 'chan' right? |
| 21:04.23 | file | aye |
| 21:04.54 | Juggie | aye to my question? |
| 21:05.03 | Juggie | since your aye i think might be in relation to my first statement. |
| 21:05.10 | file | I think so, aye |
| 21:06.45 | jsmith | X-asterisk-Info: SIP re-invite (External RTP bridge) |
| 21:06.52 | jsmith | That looks suspicious |
| 21:07.02 | Juggie | blitzrage, you still there? |
| 21:07.16 | blitzrage | yep |
| 21:07.18 | blitzrage | I'm here |
| 21:07.44 | Juggie | open app_dial.c |
| 21:07.50 | Juggie | find 'tmp->forwards++;' |
| 21:07.54 | Juggie | (only one occurance) |
| 21:08.05 | Juggie | under it, add |
| 21:08.07 | Juggie | pbx_builtin_setvar_helper(chan,"DIALFORWARDADDR", chan->name); |
| 21:08.18 | Juggie | compile and test. |
| 21:08.35 | Juggie | er, |
| 21:08.40 | Juggie | nm thats the source channel |
| 21:08.41 | Juggie | one sec |
| 21:09.27 | Juggie | pbx_builtin_setvar_helper(chan,"DIALFORWARDADDR", tc->name); |
| 21:09.31 | Juggie | i think thats what you want |
| 21:12.41 | jsmith | file: Feel like tackling a re-invite bug with 1.4? |
| 21:12.55 | Juggie | blitzrage, results? |
| 21:13.00 | blitzrage | eh? |
| 21:13.06 | Juggie | did you try. |
| 21:13.08 | blitzrage | nope |
| 21:13.13 | Juggie | well, why am i bothering then |
| 21:13.15 | blitzrage | production box, so I can't do that right now |
| 21:13.22 | blitzrage | I was working on other things |
| 21:13.24 | Juggie | do you have somewhere you can test. |
| 21:13.26 | Juggie | i dont. |
| 21:13.34 | blitzrage | ya, I think so |
| 21:13.38 | blitzrage | oh wait... |
| 21:13.40 | blitzrage | no I don't |
| 21:13.46 | blitzrage | because I have no DIDs going to that box... grrrr |
| 21:13.48 | file | jsmith: that depends, if you provide a sip debug... I may look at it |
| 21:13.56 | jsmith | file: That I can do :-) |
| 21:14.24 | blitzrage | although calls are gonna drop off here shortly |
| 21:14.29 | blitzrage | its after 5pm now |
| 21:16.14 | blitzrage | hrmmm... I think I should start dinner |
| 21:16.35 | file | what'cha makin' |
| 21:16.42 | Juggie | i'm going to get a haircut..... i have a mop on my head atm. |
| 21:17.26 | blitzrage | me too |
| 21:17.53 | Juggie | blitzrage, what i said to try isnt as specific as youd' want probally, it will just set to a var what you see in verbose |
| 21:18.05 | Juggie | but its a start to see if it works... i can look at where to find the exact info if it works. |
| 21:18.25 | blitzrage | Juggie: cool, I'll try in a bit |
| 21:18.42 | file | mmm.... |
| 21:19.32 | Juggie | blitzrage, everything could explode, no promises :) |
| 21:19.38 | blitzrage | heh |
| 21:19.48 | Juggie | i cant test it myself without setting up a little test env and i'm leaving work soon. |
| 21:24.25 | jsmith | file: http://www.jaredsmith.net/captures/wed3.txt |
| 21:24.48 | jsmith | file: If you prefer, the tcpdump capture is in that same directory |
| 21:25.41 | file | huh |
| 21:25.46 | file | funky |
| 21:26.20 | jsmith | file: WarRoom calls Asterisk, Asterisk calls Basement... Asterisk is 172.20.200.11 |
| 21:26.25 | jsmith | file: Uh, yeah... |
| 21:27.34 | jsmith | Not my dialplan, but it's pretty straightforward |
| 21:32.23 | jsmith | file: Anything jump out at you? |
| 21:36.34 | file | no |
| 21:37.15 | jsmith | :-( |
| 21:37.27 | jsmith | I'll look at it again after dinner then |
| 21:40.07 | jsmith | Doh! |
| 21:40.14 | jsmith | I fixed it, but that shouldn't have mattered |
| 21:41.43 | file | what was it? O.O |
| 21:52.45 | jsmith-away | file: In short, the guy who wrote this macro put an Answer() as the first thing in the macro |
| 21:52.52 | jsmith-away | file: On a whim, I took it out |
| 21:52.59 | jsmith-away | file: And suddenly everything worked as it should |
| 21:53.04 | jsmith-away | file: But I can't explain why |
| 22:06.23 | jsmith | Is it worth posting as a bug? Should I bring the debug to Atlanta? Should I be glad I got it working and ignore it? |
| 22:06.32 | jsmith | Am I just being paranoid? |
| 22:06.36 | jsmith | (don't answer that) |
| 22:06.45 | file | hi. |
| 22:06.58 | file | on phone with murf... |
| 22:07.12 | jsmith | No problem |
| 22:20.14 | file | moo |
| 22:20.24 | jsmith | Oh, sure... now you moo |
| 22:20.37 | file | yup. |
| 22:20.42 | jsmith | Just as I'm about to head off and teach some Boy Scouts how to burn their eyebrows off |
| 22:20.52 | file | ut roh |
| 22:20.54 | file | run away |
| 22:21.22 | jsmith | I'll be back online later |
| 23:36.07 | blitzrage | Rogers is so incredibly annoying |
| 23:36.17 | file | how so |
| 23:36.27 | blitzrage | I just wanna pay off my closed account, and they can't tell me how much the last bill is, even though the account closed on May 10th |
| 23:36.33 | file | lol |
| 23:36.46 | blitzrage | "I'm sorry sir, we won't know how much your last bill is until June 2nd" |
| 23:36.48 | file | I love it when you want to give a company money but they can't tell you how much or they can't accept it |
| 23:37.04 | blitzrage | "but my account is closed... there obviously won't be any more activity on that account" |
| 23:37.10 | blitzrage | "you current balance is XXX... blah blah" |
| 23:37.24 | blitzrage | "I know, I have that in front of me -- I want to know how much the last bill is so I can just pay it all off now" |
| 23:37.34 | blitzrage | "your current balance is XXX ... blah blah" |
| 23:37.36 | blitzrage | *click* |
| 23:38.04 | blitzrage | no kidding |
| 23:38.17 | blitzrage | incredibly frustrating |
| 23:42.33 | Juggie | blitzrage, who? |
| 23:42.44 | Juggie | (which company) |
| 23:42.52 | Juggie | oh, rogers |
| 23:43.02 | Juggie | i should read back further. |
| 23:43.12 | Juggie | blitzrage, are you on the onebill? which service? |
| 23:43.19 | blitzrage | no idea |
| 23:43.23 | Juggie | what did you have? |
| 23:43.28 | blitzrage | a cell phone |
| 23:43.31 | Juggie | thats it? |
| 23:43.34 | blitzrage | yes |
| 23:43.40 | blitzrage | other bill is a separate account |
| 23:43.45 | Juggie | call wireless support, they should know right away what your balance is |
| 23:43.48 | Juggie | you can even check it online. |
| 23:43.51 | blitzrage | I just did that |
| 23:43.54 | blitzrage | see above conversation |
| 23:44.22 | blitzrage | wow, this is rediculously stupid |
| 23:44.22 | Juggie | rogers billing is fucked sometimes. |
| 23:44.23 | blitzrage | (my outstanding consulting balance) |
| 23:44.27 | blitzrage | they sure are :) |
| 23:44.33 | Juggie | blitzrage, check online? |
| 23:44.44 | blitzrage | wonder if I can do that... |
| 23:44.57 | Juggie | everyone can |
| 23:44.59 | blitzrage | do I just register? |
| 23:45.06 | blitzrage | like, I don't have to call them to set it up do I? |
| 23:45.10 | Juggie | no |
| 23:45.26 | blitzrage | of course the Rogers site isn't loading anything.... |
| 23:45.30 | Juggie | why'd you cancel your rogers cell anyways? |
| 23:45.34 | Juggie | who are you changing to? |
| 23:45.44 | blitzrage | I ported my number to Mix |
| 23:46.04 | Juggie | and now your cell phone will be? |
| 23:46.34 | blitzrage | Rogers again |
| 23:46.38 | blitzrage | just a Toronto number this time |
| 23:46.49 | blitzrage | I have no choice since I need a GSM carrier |
| 23:46.54 | Juggie | fido |
| 23:46.59 | Juggie | but same thing |
| 23:47.04 | Juggie | so why did you bother to close your account |
| 23:47.23 | Juggie | you could of ported your number and got a new one without closing most likely. |
| 23:48.11 | Juggie | anyways its done now. |
| 23:49.01 | blitzrage | nope |
| 23:49.09 | blitzrage | once you port, they automatically close the account |
| 23:49.20 | blitzrage | oh well, I get 3 free months |
| 23:49.29 | blitzrage | since its a new sign up |
| 23:49.49 | Juggie | did they give you a good new plan? |
| 23:51.26 | blitzrage | the new plan doesn't really matter since its all unlimited |
| 23:51.48 | blitzrage | I got the same plan as I had before, but they doubled the daytime minutes and free calls to other local Rogers customers |
| 23:52.06 | blitzrage | but they told me to just call back at the end of 3 months because there might be a better plan by then |
| 23:52.12 | Juggie | unlimited evenings/weekends? |
| 23:52.16 | blitzrage | of course |
| 23:52.26 | blitzrage | everything is unlimited right now though, except LD |
| 23:52.38 | blitzrage | I'm sure they do that to establish a usage pattern |
| 23:52.44 | Juggie | you can even get unlimited LD now too |
| 23:52.52 | blitzrage | handy |
| 23:52.54 | Juggie | with the my5fav's |
| 23:53.01 | blitzrage | oh, thats annoying :) |
| 23:53.04 | blitzrage | LD for 5 people |
| 23:53.06 | file | *cough* stolen from Rogers *cough* |
| 23:53.08 | Juggie | yah but still... |
| 23:53.08 | file | er |
| 23:53.12 | Juggie | t-mobile |
| 23:53.13 | file | *cough* stolen from T-Mobile *cough* |
| 23:53.19 | blitzrage | uh huh :) |
| 23:53.37 | file | someone tell me why I shouldn't buy this 750VA UPS |
| 23:54.26 | Juggie | because electricity never goes out |
| 23:54.46 | Juggie | and even if it does your adsl is probally gonna be out anyways |
| 23:55.32 | *** join/#asterisk-doc ctooley (n=ctooley@rrcs-71-42-115-242.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:55.32 | blitzrage | file: because you should buy it for me |
| 23:55.45 | file | blitzrage: buy one for yourself! it's not that expensive... $59 |
| 23:55.51 | blitzrage | ooooo |
| 23:55.53 | blitzrage | not bad |
| 23:55.56 | blitzrage | where at? |
| 23:56.06 | file | http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A0379660 |
| 23:58.33 | Juggie | you think thats a deal, http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=626963&CatIds=&AffixedCode=WW&=&= |
| 23:59.02 | file | blitzrage: LOOK! |
| 23:59.58 | file | didn't you want one? |