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| 05:12.15 | *** topic/#asterisk-doc is [[ Documentation Project Chat Only ]] http://www.asteriskdocs.org || I've got a fever, and the only thing that can cure it is more docs |
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| 17:17.44 | Zeeek | is this a productive channel? |
| 17:17.58 | Zeeek | must be, no talking |
| 17:28.17 | jsmith | Well, we are working hard done docs... |
| 17:28.23 | jsmith | We're just quiet about it. |
| 17:30.20 | Zeeek | I wanted to ask a discrete question |
| 17:30.34 | Zeeek | working hardon docs? |
| 17:30.42 | blitzrage | Zeeek: :) |
| 17:30.48 | Zeeek | or working hard/ Done docs? |
| 17:31.14 | blitzrage | jsmith: hehe, he's talking about my post in #asterisk regarding "I'm going back to the productive channels now" |
| 17:31.28 | Zeeek | anyway, many peole (including myself) have made very minute contribs to the project. Will there be a little list someday of "thx to:" |
| 17:31.45 | Zeeek | like we do on music CDs? |
| 17:31.56 | blitzrage | Zeeek: we were discussing that very thing this morning in email |
| 17:32.04 | Zeeek | well let me tell you why |
| 17:32.07 | Zeeek | I asked: |
| 17:32.16 | blitzrage | Zeeek: are you Randy? |
| 17:32.30 | Zeeek | My wife was talking to me sunday and I said wait, I'm proffreading a new asterisk book" |
| 17:32.31 | Zeeek | ya |
| 17:33.10 | Zeeek | then I sent the correctiosn to the list and she said, "great, you can oput in your CV that you are a contributing member of that project" |
| 17:33.21 | Zeeek | (without the typos) |
| 17:33.33 | Zeeek | That's why I "axed" |
| 17:33.49 | blitzrage | well... here is my qualm |
| 17:33.49 | Zeeek | even if the list is 20 pages long, it will please a lot of us |
| 17:33.54 | Zeeek | ah. qualm |
| 17:34.12 | Zeeek | I hate those ;) |
| 17:35.06 | Zeeek | yes? |
| 17:35.21 | Zeeek | should I have queries enabled? |
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| 17:37.17 | Zeeek | ok, anyway that isn't real important. I'd like to try to write things to give a glimpse at what you can do with a few well-placed lines in * |
| 17:37.18 | blitzrage | the majority of work in Volume One has been done by Jared, Jim and myself. Most other contributions have been in the form of minor spelling corrections, minor grammer, things like that. We are trying to encourage more participation in regards to actually writing new material. I agree that those contributions are a necessity, but I also don't feel that if the majority of the work is done by a small handful of peopl |
| 17:37.50 | Zeeek | I wasn't talking about credit - just a tip of the hat in fine print |
| 17:38.01 | blitzrage | no no... and I'm not trying to sound like a dictator |
| 17:38.08 | blitzrage | your point is well received and valid |
| 17:38.11 | Zeeek | oh no you are totally right on that |
| 17:38.29 | Zeeek | I'm talking 100 names in 9 point type at the end |
| 17:38.30 | blitzrage | however, I want to be sure that what we do in terms of giving credit is the right move for the project |
| 17:38.41 | Zeeek | or in the beginning if there's a word there |
| 17:39.36 | Zeeek | I'm talking about saying you couldn't have done without your dog, the cat who jumped on the keyboard, Willi=e's Pizza, several classical composers and rock bands |
| 17:40.22 | Zeeek | and several patient silent helpers whose thankless job is was to re-read... well, let's not get carried away... :) |
| 17:40.32 | blitzrage | well, my fear is that people are going to read the book, find 2 typos, and go, "Well, add me to the list of active contributors too!" |
| 17:40.52 | Zeeek | set an arbitrary limit of 25 emails or something |
| 17:41.45 | Zeeek | just to be clear, first I just asked and have no problem either way; second I think I wrote twoparagraphs - I don't expect an academy award! |
| 17:42.11 | Zeeek | Reading for typos was probably the most enriching experience in my asterisk learning |
| 17:42.14 | blitzrage | Zeeek: oh I realize that, I'm just speaking in regards to the bigger picture |
| 17:42.27 | blitzrage | Zeeek: this conversation isn't really "you" specific :) |
| 17:42.40 | Zeeek | which is why I get really irritated with people who say they've read the doc and then ask what a dialplan is |
| 17:42.52 | blitzrage | you and me both :) |
| 17:43.03 | Zeeek | I know, I know - I'm giving an example |
| 17:43.38 | blitzrage | but yes, to answer your question, there is talk about creating some sort of "thank you" list |
| 17:43.46 | Zeeek | The doc as it stands is really good - although my latest read shows some serious inconsistancies which Jim has fixed integrated already |
| 17:43.50 | blitzrage | where that is going to be, I'm not sure yet. I'm thinking the website. |
| 17:44.22 | Zeeek | blitz ion a more serious issue, are you indexing the online doc? |
| 17:44.36 | Zeeek | It would really be sweet to be able to call up key points |
| 17:44.49 | blitzrage | yah. Indexing will be done near the end.... |
| 17:44.59 | Zeeek | although the online HTML (old version) had table of contents links IIRC |
| 17:45.32 | Zeeek | have you given up completely on applications in VOL I ? |
| 17:45.34 | blitzrage | yah, it probably did. I'll have to go back to that doc and see what is different |
| 17:45.42 | Zeeek | Starter tutorial: |
| 17:45.42 | Zeeek | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html |
| 17:45.43 | Zeeek | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html |
| 17:45.43 | Zeeek | http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm |
| 17:45.43 | Zeeek | THE reference of the moment: |
| 17:45.43 | Zeeek | http://www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 17:45.45 | Zeeek | ooops |
| 17:45.54 | Zeeek | when I want to hit the dialplan I give this |
| 17:45.55 | Zeeek | The dialplan is the heart of an Asterisk system, as it defines how Asterisk should handle calls. "http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current_v1/docs-html_one/vm1.html#AEN650 |
| 17:46.12 | Zeeek | cumbersome, but it works |
| 17:48.11 | Zeeek | I think I'll make a list of the stuff we use the most and see if it would be of interest near the end of the current volume. |
| 17:48.12 | blitzrage | yah, those links are a bit long... :) |
| 17:48.22 | blitzrage | Zeeek: awesome! |
| 17:48.26 | Zeeek | I have been using asterisk for almost exactly one year |
| 17:48.39 | blitzrage | Zeeek: yah... I'm at about 2 years now I think... |
| 17:48.39 | Zeeek | I'm and "old newbie" |
| 17:48.41 | blitzrage | lol |
| 17:48.44 | blitzrage | you and me both! |
| 17:49.10 | blitzrage | well, I'm heading to the gym now. Gotta get ready for a 10k run on the 20th. |
| 17:49.19 | Zeeek | Already told you (or the list) I read those John Todd articles first, then was lucky enough to find your book. OPrinted it out and read it cover to cover several times |
| 17:49.34 | Zeeek | ok take care |
| 17:49.34 | blitzrage | awesome, I'm glad it helped someone! |
| 17:49.42 | blitzrage | and that at least one person read it :) |
| 17:49.44 | Zeeek | I'm more than one |
| 17:49.53 | Zeeek | haha a thousand times by now |
| 18:18.14 | Zeeek | shido6 is being paged in asterisk |
| 18:18.48 | shido6 | yesh? |
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| 20:37.40 | jsmith | Ouch... |
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| 20:58.39 | blitzrage | jsmith: wb! |
| 21:00.23 | blitzrage | hrmmmm... does Asterisk have the ability to split a string into multiple variables based on a character? (example: I have SIP/1000&SIP/1001&IAX2/provider/1234567890&Zap/4/0987654321) and I want to split each section into a separate variable |
| 21:00.36 | blitzrage | or.... I can do this |
| 21:01.10 | blitzrage | Macro(multiexten,SIP/1000,SIP/1001,IAX2/provider/1234567890,Zap/4/0987654321) |
| 21:01.19 | blitzrage | but then I need to know how many arguments were passed... |
| 21:01.29 | blitzrage | oooo... I could make that the first argument... |
| 21:01.49 | blitzrage | Macro(multiexten,4,SIP/1000,SIP/1001,IAX2/provider/1234567890,Zap/4/0987654321) |
| 21:33.44 | jsmith | blitzrage: Cut()! |
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| 21:47.23 | Alric | Greetings! |
| 21:48.36 | jsmith | Howdy Alric! |
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| 21:49.39 | jsmith | Welcome back MikeJ[Jayden] |
| 21:50.10 | MikeJ[Jayden] | hey, nicely propped up on pillows in bed now.. back feels much better |
| 21:51.05 | MikeJ[Jayden] | jsmith, what is your first name? |
| 21:51.41 | jsmith | MikeJ[Jayden]: Who's asking? :-) |
| 21:51.48 | MikeJ[Jayden] | Mike |
| 21:52.25 | jsmith | Jared |
| 21:52.35 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I got sick of nicks that didn't represent who I was, so I changed my nick from jayden |
| 21:52.45 | MikeJ[Jayden] | I will drop the jayden off soon i think |
| 21:52.46 | MikeJ[Jayden] | k |
| 22:06.22 | blitzrage | jsmith: thats why I keep you around :) |
| 22:06.31 | blitzrage | jsmith: thanks, that looks like the ticket... |
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| 23:42.33 | blitzrage | jsmith-brb: when you get back... is the variable name for Cut(mychan=...) if I have a number of fields, ${mychan#} ? |
| 23:46.16 | jsmith-brb | I doubt it. |
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