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| 03:16.03 | blitztang | jsmith: ahoi! |
| 03:27.41 | jsmith | blitztang: Bug not fixed correctly, and loop stopped running, but Asterisk didn't crash. I think it hit an AbsoluteTimeout() :-) |
| 03:28.02 | jsmith | blitztang: Back in a little while -- my wife just volunteered me to fix a neighbor's computer. |
| 03:31.54 | blitztang | jsmith-mr-fixit: oh fun.... :( |
| 04:44.32 | blitztang | well.. guess I'll head to bed... try and get up early |
| 04:44.35 | blitztang | g'night |
| 05:02.22 | jsmith-mr-fixit | Man, I hate windows. |
| 05:02.26 | jsmith-mr-fixit | It sucks. |
| 05:02.36 | jsmith-mr-fixit | Why do people like it? |
| 05:02.53 | jsmith-mr-fixit | It's buggy as sin, and when it has problems, it's impossible to fix them. |
| 05:03.00 | jsmith-mr-fixit | ARGGGGG! |
| 05:05.56 | blitztang | jsmith-asleep: its not that bad if you know how to use it... |
| 05:06.05 | blitztang | infact, I like it... very stable |
| 05:06.21 | jsmith-asleep | blitztang: Ok, tell me this oh wise master. |
| 05:06.21 | blitztang | must use XP SP2, and keep it clean |
| 05:06.33 | blitztang | jsmith-asleep: ;0 |
| 05:06.39 | jsmith-asleep | blitztang: The neighbor's computer won't connect to the internet. |
| 05:06.51 | jsmith-asleep | blitztang: Has Norton Antivirus, definitions are up to date |
| 05:07.04 | jsmith-asleep | blitztang: Has Ad-Aware -- definitions up to date. |
| 05:07.18 | blitztang | Norton doesn't matter... I had a 3 virii that it didn't detect |
| 05:07.35 | jsmith-asleep | Neither Ad-aware nor Spybot S&D nor RootKitRevealer find anything bad on the machine. |
| 05:07.53 | jsmith-asleep | So I dive into dial-up network to see what's wrong. |
| 05:08.17 | jsmith-asleep | It dials up, connects to the remote network, verifies username and password, and everything's cool, right? |
| 05:08.19 | jsmith-asleep | Wrong. |
| 05:08.24 | jsmith-asleep | DNS doesn't work. |
| 05:08.29 | jsmith-asleep | DNS servers are set right. |
| 05:08.41 | jsmith-asleep | So I try to ping them (from the command prompt) |
| 05:09.00 | jsmith-asleep | Ping starts spitting out gobledeegook on the screen. |
| 05:09.04 | jsmith-asleep | And making the speaker beep. |
| 05:09.27 | jsmith-asleep | So, I reboot, boot off the install CD, go into the recovery console and BAM -- the computer reboots. |
| 05:09.47 | jsmith-asleep | So I boot back into Windows, try to run scandisk on the hard drive. |
| 05:10.14 | jsmith-asleep | It says it needs exclusive access, so I need to schedule it to scan on the next reboot. I say fine, set it, and reboot. |
| 05:10.20 | jsmith-asleep | Goes to run scandisk, and reboots. |
| 05:10.27 | jsmith-asleep | on its own. |
| 05:10.35 | blitztang | sounds like a hardware issue almost... |
| 05:10.42 | jsmith-asleep | So I boot off the CD again, but this time tell it to reinstall all the dang software. |
| 05:11.02 | jsmith-asleep | And it comes up and says "Your hard drive has corrupt files on it. I won't replace them with good ones." |
| 05:11.51 | jsmith-asleep | The question is -- even if it's a hardware issue, how in the heck to I reinstall just the networking stuff so she can at least copy her files across the internet before the hard drive blows up? |
| 05:12.16 | blitztang | hrmmmmmmmmmm |
| 05:12.22 | jsmith-asleep | I'm convinced the hard drive is dying a slow and painful death, but I still should be able to reinstall the piece that's broken and try to fix it. |
| 05:12.36 | blitztang | hrm hrm hrm... |
| 05:12.41 | jsmith-asleep | But oh no, my only option is to format the whole blasted thing. |
| 05:12.57 | blitztang | well, you should be able to reinstall over top of the OS... |
| 05:13.05 | jsmith-asleep | Which isn't an option, because she has no way of getting her files off, and she's despereately gotta email some QuickBooks files. |
| 05:13.11 | jsmith-asleep | Won't let me. |
| 05:13.18 | jsmith-asleep | Tells me that files on the hard drive are corrupt. |
| 05:13.22 | jsmith-asleep | Been there, tried that. |
| 05:13.37 | blitztang | and the scandisk doesn't mark the bad sectors as bad? |
| 05:13.47 | jsmith-asleep | Scandisk won't run -- it reboots the computer. |
| 05:14.04 | blitztang | you should be able to reinstall windows over top of itself... she'd have to reinstall software... but info would still be here |
| 05:14.07 | blitztang | there* |
| 05:14.11 | jsmith-asleep | I'd have pulled out my handy-dandy USB hard drive, but I didn't wanna be over there for the rest of forever trying to fix her machine. |
| 05:14.12 | blitztang | wow... her computer sounds f00ked. |
| 05:14.17 | jsmith-asleep | NO |
| 05:14.31 | jsmith-asleep | WINDOWS WILL NOT REINSTALL OVER ITSELF. I TRIED. IT REFUSED> |
| 05:14.45 | blitztang | yah... I'm just saying thats SOOOO weird |
| 05:14.58 | jsmith-asleep | So anyway, she can't afford a new hard drive, and I don't even have a spare to donate to the cause. |
| 05:15.03 | blitztang | the only thing I would do at this point is try and ghost her HD off that one... |
| 05:15.04 | jsmith-asleep | What a mess. |
| 05:15.35 | jsmith-asleep | Yup, but I don't have another hard drive to use for that, and Windows is so messed up at this point it's not worth ghosting (I'd use partimage, but that's another story) |
| 05:16.27 | jsmith-asleep | I guess I'm just spoiled with Linux, where if a certain piece isn't working, I can at least try to reinstall just that package, and not have to reinstall the whole dang OS just because on stupid file is corrupt. |
| 05:16.28 | blitztang | yah... I don't know... I'd tell her you can't do anything and to take it to a computer shop and get a new HD :) |
| 05:16.48 | blitztang | can you boot windows? |
| 05:16.51 | jsmith-asleep | That's what I told her... but her husband is out of work, and just had surgery. |
| 05:16.55 | jsmith-asleep | Yes, I can boot windows. |
| 05:17.06 | blitztang | there should be a repair type option... damnit... what is that called... |
| 05:17.17 | blitztang | its a command line program that you can use... |
| 05:17.38 | jsmith-asleep | (Let's just say she's trying to call NetZero to cancel her $10 a month internet service because it's too expensive to have if her computer doesn't work.) |
| 05:17.43 | jsmith-asleep | You talking about chkdsk? |
| 05:17.49 | blitztang | nope |
| 05:18.12 | blitztang | damnit.... I totally forget... its been a while since I fixed computers like that |
| 05:18.28 | jsmith-asleep | If I knew what files were bad, I'd just extract them from the cabs and copy them over |
| 05:18.39 | jsmith-asleep | But oh no, Windows has to be so closed-minded. |
| 05:18.42 | blitztang | yah.. too bad you don't |
| 05:19.19 | jsmith-asleep | Of course, I haven't had a Windows desktop for over 6 years now, so my windows skills are starting to become rusty. |
| 05:19.42 | jsmith-asleep | Anyhoo, I'm going to bed. |
| 05:19.49 | jsmith-asleep | I'll catch y'all tomorrow. |
| 05:19.51 | blitztang | okie.. me too |
| 05:19.52 | blitztang | g'night |
| 05:19.53 | jsmith-asleep | g'night. |
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| 15:09.29 | blitztang | morning all |
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| 16:44.24 | Alric | How do you find the contents of an env variable like LD_LIBRARY_PATH? I thought I could do it with echo, but that appears to not work... |
| 16:46.54 | jsmith-firefight | "env | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH" |
| 16:47.37 | jsmith-firefight | "echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH" |
| 16:47.47 | jsmith-firefight | Either one should work. |
| 16:47.50 | Alric | No wonder. |
| 16:47.56 | Alric | echo /was/ working, the variable is empty. |
| 16:48.48 | Alric | Thanks. |
| 17:00.23 | jsmith-firefight | That's what I'm here for. |
| 17:00.37 | jsmith-firefight | Now stop bothering me so I can put out some fires :-) |
| 17:00.53 | Alric | Yeah, I stopped working on it. |
| 17:08.37 | Alric | ttyl |
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| 20:29.34 | jsmith | OK, I'm done fighting fires enough to talk in here now. |
| 20:32.11 | blitztang | wee! |
| 20:32.43 | jsmith | You have no idea. |
| 20:33.13 | blitztang | And I must admit a certain bit of glee... |
| 20:38.54 | Alric | Me too. |
| 20:39.00 | Alric | But not ODBC. |
| 20:39.26 | blitztang | boo |
| 20:39.30 | Alric | Whomever dreamed up ODBC needs to be shot! |
| 20:42.58 | Alric | jsmith: You need to tell the fires that their scheduled time is Monday, and it is clearly a Thursday. |
| 20:43.24 | jsmith | Alric: Wrong! It's the fourth Monday of the week! |
| 20:43.58 | jsmith | In Brazil, they're even smart enough to name the days "first", "second", "third" so you know which Monday it is. |
| 20:44.26 | Alric | Eh? |
| 20:44.38 | Alric | I don't think of that as "smart"... |
| 20:44.44 | Alric | Just added stuff to write. |
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| 21:55.14 | Alric | I can't believe this is causing so much trouble. |
| 22:01.19 | jsmith | Maybe it's just you? |
| 22:01.28 | blitztang | I can pay rent next month! :) |
| 22:01.43 | Alric | jsmith: I honestly don't see what I'm doing wrong. |
| 22:01.59 | Alric | By everything I've read, this is the /trivial/ part its failing on. |
| 22:02.35 | jsmith | What, you forgot to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
| 22:02.49 | Alric | But here we are, MyODBC failing cause its saying some of the .h files unixODBC installed have errors in them. |
| 22:02.49 | blitztang | back in a few hours |
| 22:02.49 | jsmith | Or forgot to run ldconfig after install MyODBC |
| 22:02.55 | jsmith | blitztang: Happy Haircut! |
| 22:02.59 | blitztang | jsmith: thanks! :) |
| 22:03.00 | Alric | Thats just it. MyODBC /won't/ install. |
| 22:03.12 | jsmith | Alric: You want me to ssh in and beat it up? |