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| 21:02.02 | JunK-Y | mooooo! |
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| 21:24.21 | seanbright | who's the resident kamailio expert in these parts? |
| 21:31.11 | Marquis42 | expert? I don't know, but I may (or may not) be able to assist with something. |
| 21:32.47 | seanbright | well, i'm looking at the dispatcher module |
| 21:32.55 | seanbright | from 1000 feet, so bear with me |
| 21:32.58 | Marquis42 | OK, go on. I'm fairly familiar with it. |
| 21:33.25 | seanbright | ok, what i would _like_ to do is have my asterisk servers register with the proxy and dynamically get added to the destination groups |
| 21:33.41 | seanbright | but from what i've seen it looks like i'll have to write a record to a file/db table and reload instead? |
| 21:34.00 | Marquis42 | Yes, that's correct. |
| 21:34.15 | seanbright | ok, follow up |
| 21:34.22 | seanbright | why is it so sucky? |
| 21:34.26 | Marquis42 | lol |
| 21:34.36 | Marquis42 | sucky in what way? |
| 21:34.43 | Marquis42 | Like that it can't do exactly what you want? :P |
| 21:34.54 | seanbright | well i think it would be a fairly common use case |
| 21:35.08 | seanbright | i want to scale horizontally behind this proxy, let's make it a pain in the ass |
| 21:35.40 | Marquis42 | Seems to me there are some other things out there to make it a little cleaner, but I agree that it would be nice to make it simpler to scale that way. |
| 21:36.17 | seanbright | yeah, i see a few things i can use |
| 21:36.32 | seanbright | just one more service to manage i guess |
| 21:36.39 | Marquis42 | Yeah :/ |
| 21:37.04 | seanbright | also: you are now the resident kamailio expert |
| 21:37.06 | seanbright | congrats |
| 21:37.14 | Marquis42 | hahaha |
| 21:41.06 | seanbright | well, this lack of features is a minor inconvenience to me... i guess i'll just write my own proxy |
| 21:41.34 | Marquis42 | heh |
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| 21:43.03 | mjordan | seanbright: I've been talking with some folks about that same kind of concept. |
| 21:43.31 | Marquis42 | I definitely agree that it'd be nice to be able to do that. |
| 21:43.35 | mjordan | seanbright: the concept of discovery still feels rather hard to get "right", particularly the notion of whether or not this thing that just registered to you is trusted |
| 21:43.48 | mjordan | Daniel had an interesting idea about doing that with some shared token/secret |
| 21:44.29 | Marquis42 | Well, if you had a hook where if you registered to Kamailio as a particular user (or set of users, whatever) then the auth would take place on REGISTER. Then have Kamailio place it in a particular dispatcher set. |
| 21:44.44 | Marquis42 | Maybe the 'username' could be the dispatcher set id (or some as-yet-created name for a set). |
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| 21:47.25 | seanbright | mjordan: i don't know kamailio well enough to comment intelligently (clearly) but i would think that the authentication/authorization stuff would be a separate issue |
| 21:47.55 | seanbright | and by "i don't know kamailio well enough" i mean "i don't know kamailio at all" |
| 21:47.55 | mjordan | well, it kind of comes down to "how do you want Kamailio to know this things exists, and trust it" |
| 21:48.08 | mjordan | seanbright: Yeah, I'm just playing someone on TV on this one. |
| 21:48.36 | seanbright | well, a REGISTER has credentials right? |
| 21:48.37 | mjordan | the notion that I've been going off of is "use the REGISTER request, and once it has authenticated well enough, slap something in there so that Kamailio knows it is supposed to send requests to it" |
| 21:48.39 | seanbright | maybe by realm? |
| 21:48.53 | seanbright | or does the registrar present the realm? |
| 21:49.22 | mjordan | unsure :-P |
| 21:49.27 | seanbright | fucking SIP |
| 21:50.00 | Marquis42 | lol |
| 21:50.07 | seanbright | registrar sends the realm back in the 401 |
| 21:50.27 | seanbright | X-Call-Dispatcher-Set: 11 |
| 21:50.31 | seanbright | there, problem solved |
| 21:50.45 | seanbright | X-Call-Dispatcher-Capacity: 128 |
| 21:50.50 | seanbright | ohhh, i like my own ideas |
| 21:50.52 | seanbright | heh |
| 21:50.53 | Marquis42 | :D |
| 21:51.42 | seanbright | mjordan: re: "use the REGISTER request, and once it has auth..." - that makes sense to me |
| 21:52.23 | seanbright | although i don't know what "well enough" means in the context of authentication |
| 21:52.38 | seanbright | you either provide the correct credentials or you don't |
| 21:52.55 | Marquis42 | Yeah that's my thinking. |
| 21:52.57 | mjordan | well enough was authenticated for me :-P |
| 21:53.08 | mjordan | I should have been more pedantic |
| 21:53.16 | seanbright | ah |
| 21:54.01 | seanbright | maybe you throw a parameter in the Contact header of the REGISTER that identifies something specific about the dispatcher set you want to be a part of |
| 21:54.06 | seanbright | if that is even legal |
| 21:54.15 | Marquis42 | It's legla |
| 21:56.18 | seanbright | so: Contact: <Marquis42@aol.com>; dstset=11 |
| 21:56.24 | seanbright | there, i've designed the whole thing |
| 21:56.34 | Marquis42 | hehe |
| 21:56.40 | seanbright | also: you still have an AOL email? wtf? |
| 21:56.41 | Marquis42 | Yeah that should be fine AFAIK. |
| 21:56.45 | Marquis42 | heh |
| 21:56.52 | Marquis42 | aol 4lyfe! |
| 21:56.53 | Marquis42 | :D |
| 21:57.06 | seanbright | type !MM for warez |
| 21:57.17 | Marquis42 | hahahaha |
| 21:57.46 | Marquis42 | I'm going to assume that's some AOL thingy, since other than the word 'warez' that means nothing to me. ;) |
| 21:58.24 | seanbright | well, back in the day you would join a chat room on AOL like MacWarez and bots would be spewing out messages like that |
| 21:58.28 | seanbright | and you'd type !MM |
| 21:58.31 | Marquis42 | ah gotcha |
| 21:58.37 | seanbright | and then log off and go to bed |
| 21:58.37 | Marquis42 | I never once in my life connected to AOL. |
| 21:58.42 | Marquis42 | heh |
| 21:58.56 | seanbright | you'd wake up the following morning with about 500MB of software in your mailbox |
| 21:59.10 | seanbright | photoshop, 3d programs, etc, etc. |
| 21:59.14 | Marquis42 | Nice |
| 21:59.17 | seanbright | AOLs mail system was effectively FTP |
| 21:59.34 | seanbright | anyway, OT |
| 21:59.39 | seanbright | stop asking me OT questions |
| 21:59.50 | Marquis42 | :P |
| 22:00.09 | Marquis42 | Wait, you're a Scientologist? |
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| 22:01.10 | seanbright | Marquis42: yes... and you're becoming a suppressive person |
| 22:01.21 | Marquis42 | Then I'm doing it right. :D |
| 22:01.40 | seanbright | i disconnect from you |
| 22:01.50 | file | pours water on seanbright |
| 22:02.04 | seanbright | is melllllllllllllltinggggggggg |
| 22:03.12 | file | reshapes seanbright into a WebRTC application |
| 22:03.24 | seanbright | god forbig |
| 22:03.26 | seanbright | forbid* |
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