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| 12:32.40 | oej | Hello folks |
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| 15:14.43 | file | greetings |
| 15:15.33 | leifmadsen | saluations |
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| 15:48.35 | file | opticron, were my thoughts actually viable for contact rewriting? |
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| 15:54.56 | opticron | I'm most of the way through the modifications and yes |
| 15:55.08 | opticron | I have one more minor thing to iron out before reposting |
| 15:55.08 | file | niiiiiiiice |
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| 19:23.40 | tm1000 | mjordan: ping |
| 19:24.10 | file | The person you are attempting to reach is currently on Mars. Please try your IM at a later time. |
| 19:25.17 | WIMPy | Now I've got the Rar Band in my head. |
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| 21:15.20 | mjordan | tm1000: pong |
| 21:17.07 | tm1000 | mjordan: just wanted to say in totally curious where you are going to go with Ward and the asterisk gui |
| 21:17.20 | tm1000 | got some popcorn |
| 21:17.33 | tm1000 | shares with file |
| 21:17.33 | mjordan | tm1000: well... |
| 21:17.36 | mjordan | so here's the thing. |
| 21:17.46 | file | tm1000, I found popcorn in my pantry recently! it even has sour cream and onion seasoning |
| 21:18.23 | mjordan | We clearly don't do anything with the Asterisk-GUI project, given that the last commit to the repo was 2 years ago |
| 21:18.31 | tm1000 | mjordan: yup :) |
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| 21:18.46 | Qwell | mjordan: 3, for the last useful commit |
| 21:18.47 | tm1000 | This is why I bought the popcorn. Lol |
| 21:18.58 | Qwell | (copying/changes were more recent) |
| 21:19.07 | mjordan | and if you look at the project in JIRA, there's not much activity or progress in anything (which is mostly because no one looks at it) |
| 21:19.12 | mjordan | Qwell: Truth |
| 21:19.20 | mjordan | So! |
| 21:19.27 | tm1000 | mjordan: who looks at that? |
| 21:19.30 | tm1000 | Pshhhh |
| 21:19.37 | tm1000 | Activity... |
| 21:19.48 | mjordan | if someone wants to take and use it (for whatever reason), more power to them, but the upstream maintainer(s) clearly aren't super interested in it. Not that we don't take the trademark/copyright seriously still, cus, well, we do. |
| 21:20.03 | tm1000 | mjordan: ha |
| 21:20.10 | mjordan | So, there's two points to consider. |
| 21:20.13 | Qwell | tm1000: I told you so! :D |
| 21:20.18 | tm1000 | mjordan: so wait. No built in ARI support!!!! |
| 21:20.24 | mjordan | er |
| 21:20.26 | tm1000 | Say it ain't so |
| 21:20.32 | mjordan | more like no support for anything that was made in the last 3 - 4 years |
| 21:20.50 | mjordan | Grandstream chose to use that code base for their PBX. Go them. Any fixes, modifications, or other improvements have not been pushed up stream. |
| 21:20.56 | mjordan | Since, ya know, no commits. |
| 21:20.59 | tm1000 | Qwell: oh I know. Just mocking individuals on the net ;) |
| 21:21.15 | mjordan | Which means if you use whatever is in the repo, you are not using the Grandstream changes (which was alluded to in one of Ward's posts). |
| 21:21.37 | mjordan | OTOH, if you do use what is in the repo, you have to be a bit careful. You can't modify the source and re-distribute it using any of the images or graphics |
| 21:22.12 | mjordan | Which means if you are going to use it as a base for a distributable product, there's a bare minimum amount of skinning that has to be done - and people should know that, lest they fall afoul of trademark/copyright violation. |
| 21:22.27 | mjordan | So! My post was just to make sure that people knew that. |
| 21:22.48 | mjordan | (a) That you aren't using Grandstream's improvements, whatever they happen to be are. It's the same product/project it was 3-4 years ago. |
| 21:23.00 | mjordan | (b) That if you do take it and want to hack on it, you have to go re-skin the whole thing. |
| 21:23.18 | mjordan | And, yes, I wouldn't expect it to work with newer versions of Asterisk |
| 21:23.28 | mjordan | Nor would I expect any support or upstream interest in bugs/improvements that are made. |
| 21:23.48 | tm1000 | mjordan: that is clearly lost in him |
| 21:23.53 | tm1000 | Unless you replied recently |
| 21:24.07 | mjordan | Just did, but it was just to answer his question. |
| 21:24.20 | tm1000 | Ah |
| 21:24.21 | mjordan | If he wants to go down the path of using the Asterisk-GUI for some purpose, more power to him. Open Source! |
| 21:24.31 | mjordan | might not be the decision I'd make, but hey, that's cool :-) |
| 21:24.32 | tm1000 | mjordan: true true |
| 21:24.49 | tm1000 | mjordan: I think he believes you keep it updated |
| 21:25.20 | mjordan | er |
| 21:25.26 | jameswf | Can we oem FreePBX as asteriks GUI.... just put FreePBX in that svn :-/ |
| 21:26.04 | jameswf | wtf gize!! |
| 21:26.04 | Qwell | jameswf: find /var/www/asterisk-gui/ -name '*.jpg' -exec mv tango.jpg {} \; |
| 21:26.06 | Qwell | BOOM |
| 21:27.26 | Qwell | Every image is now Tango. |
| 21:27.26 | Qwell | umm, the first image is now Tango. |
| 21:27.26 | Qwell | s/mv/cp/ |
| 21:29.00 | mjordan | heh |
| 21:29.51 | mjordan | that would technically be legit (although I'm guessing the other images for buttons and stuff would also have to get updated. Am unsure about that however) |
| 21:30.23 | Qwell | mjordan: borders, pfft. borders are now frogs. |
| 21:30.39 | tm1000 | mjordan: oh don't worry. He won't modify. Just use and point issues and bugs to you!! :) |
| 21:30.47 | mjordan | he's more than welcome to file bugs |
| 21:30.53 | mjordan | patches are welcome too. |
| 21:31.05 | tm1000 | mjordan: ha |
| 21:31.07 | mjordan | Although I'm pretty sure we don't even merge patches for issues to the asterisk-gui project, since no one watches it |
| 21:31.11 | tm1000 | Just don't tell him that. |
| 21:31.16 | mjordan | As in srsly. It isn't on my filters. |
| 21:31.40 | tm1000 | Patches welcome + won't fix is not open source |
| 21:31.50 | tm1000 | I didn't say it. |
| 21:31.55 | tm1000 | :) |
| 21:31.58 | mjordan | It's open source. |
| 21:32.05 | mjordan | It's there, you can take it, and modify it |
| 21:32.09 | mjordan | you can even fork it! |
| 21:32.11 | tm1000 | Yup |
| 21:32.14 | mjordan | it just has no upstream maintainer |
| 21:32.26 | tm1000 | But that's what I was told by this person |
| 21:32.28 | mjordan | you can become your own upstream maintainer if you wish |
| 21:32.33 | gtjoseph | i know you don't merge patches for asterisk-gui. I have open issues from a few years ago. :) |
| 21:32.39 | tm1000 | Re won't fix patches welcome :( |
| 21:32.49 | mjordan | gtjoseph: er. Sorry :-( |
| 21:32.53 | tm1000 | Erre :) |
| 21:32.58 | mjordan | gtjoseph: thanks for not hating us, btw. |
| 21:33.04 | gtjoseph | that's why I forked it. |
| 21:33.07 | gtjoseph | :) |
| 21:33.12 | mjordan | gtjoseph: yay! The system works |
| 21:33.14 | tm1000 | gtjoseph: a maintainer!! |
| 21:33.48 | gtjoseph | i didn't say i MAINTAINED it! |
| 21:34.00 | gtjoseph | i'm a forker at best. |
| 21:34.11 | tm1000 | gtjoseph: I already tweeted that though! |
| 21:34.21 | gtjoseph | must be true then |
| 21:34.41 | file | hrm - if you tweet it... it becomes true? |
| 21:34.47 | tm1000 | @person did you know @gtjoseph maintains the gui! |
| 21:34.58 | tm1000 | file: fact |
| 21:35.07 | tm1000 | Anything on the Internet is truth |
| 21:35.19 | tm1000 | Aaterisk kills babies. Digium hires the homeless |
| 21:35.28 | tm1000 | All truth cause I said it in irc. |
| 21:35.29 | tm1000 | :) |
| 21:35.49 | tm1000 | Anyways. Just wanted to banter on the gui |
| 21:35.59 | tm1000 | I used to use it. Long ago |
| 21:38.39 | ipengineer | We are having issues with multiple 13 boxes locking up.. It doesnt reload and create a dump file it just completely freezes and requires a restart. I compiled with DONT_OPTIMIZE. I am assuming it is fine to run asterisk over an extended period of time with that option? |
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| 21:48.38 | mjordan | tm1000: sorry about that then. |
| 21:48.44 | mjordan | ipengineer: are you using DEBUG_THREADS? |
| 21:48.57 | ipengineer | mjordan: I am not |
| 21:48.59 | mjordan | k |
| 21:49.06 | mjordan | yes, use DONT_OPTIMIZE and BETTER_BACKTRACES |
| 21:49.11 | tm1000 | mjordan: sorry about me using it? |
| 21:49.12 | mjordan | if it freezes up, get a backtrace using gdb |
| 21:49.15 | mjordan | tm1000: yes. |
| 21:49.16 | tm1000 | If so hahaha too funny |
| 21:50.22 | mjordan | ipengineer: the gdb backtrace should point the finger at whatever is going on |
| 21:50.26 | tm1000 | ipengineer: all of our releases of asterisk have both of those options enabled. It doesn't hurt a thing really. |
| 21:50.43 | tm1000 | Little less performance helps in situations like these |
| 21:52.36 | ipengineer | Ok thanks.. I will attach to that next time and see what we can turn up.. Not sure the âcore show locksâ will be doable since once this happens the asterisk CLI fails to return anything other than version info |
| 21:53.38 | WIMPy | ipengineer: have you tried with 'asterisk -x "core show locks"'? |
| 21:53.51 | ipengineer | WIMPy: I have not but I will give that a go |
| 21:54.06 | ipengineer | if/when the other fails |
| 21:54.33 | WIMPy | BTW: As you are on popcorn anyway let's ask somethign that came up a few days ago: Has anyone ever considered adding subscriptions to IAX? |
| 21:57.48 | gtjoseph | anyone know the secret to getting ast_log_backtrace to work? HAVE_BKTR is 1 but still no output. |
| 21:58.07 | file | WIMPy, I'm sure someone at some point in time (probably the past) has thought of that |
| 21:58.35 | WIMPy | file: I already said so :-) |
| 22:24.26 | mjordan | file: didn't you end up fixing ASTERISK-23895 when you did your framehook adjustments? |
| 22:24.58 | file | maybe? |
| 22:27.49 | mjordan | fair enough |
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| 23:27.45 | jameswf | too bad erin is not here to troll..... |
| 23:28.02 | jameswf | has to keep his shenanigans on twitter |
| 23:29.29 | jameswf | #respoke is not a thing... |
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