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| 18:48.23 | tm1000 | jsmith: unwinable battles. ward mundy. |
| 18:48.35 | jsmith | tm1000: Oh, I know that :-) |
| 18:48.42 | tm1000 | lol |
| 18:48.57 | jsmith | tm1000: And frankly, I think he likes to stir up controversy to get more traffic on his blog |
| 18:49.12 | jsmith | tm1000: But I had enough other people ask me about his rantings that I felt I had to respond |
| 18:49.28 | jsmith | tm1000: But no, I don't expect to get him to stop conflating copyright law with trademark law |
| 18:49.51 | tm1000 | jsmith: oh of course. and Im glad you did respond. but his responses are just rather dismissive. |
| 18:50.05 | tm1000 | haha yup |
| 18:50.07 | jsmith | That's fine -- he can dismiss me all he wants to |
| 18:50.18 | jsmith | I'm not trying to prove that I'm an expert or anything |
| 18:50.34 | jsmith | I'm just simply sharing my opinions, based on what I've seen both inside and outside of Red Hat |
| 18:50.42 | jsmith | (or, as I like to call my journey, "There and Back Again") |
| 18:52.16 | jsmith | But I've said my peace, and won't be wasting any more effort on the conversation today -- I've got more important things to do, like remotely install wine on my father-in-law's computer so he can use a ten-year old Windows program... |
| 18:52.27 | jsmith | mutters something under his breath about "progress" |
| 18:52.32 | tm1000 | jsmith: you have more knowledge of these things than he does which is why when I read it I just seem him being dismissive instead of listening. |
| 18:52.50 | jsmith | tm1000: Well, I *think* I do too... but he's supposedly the attorney |
| 18:52.58 | tm1000 | jsmith: haha. that sounds super amussing. |
| 18:53.03 | jsmith | tm1000: Me, I'm no attorney, and don't play one on IRC |
| 18:53.20 | tm1000 | jsmith: yes, well. an attorney turned IT guy is how I read it. His bar is long since expired. |
| 18:53.44 | jsmith | tm1000: That being said, I did spend a *lot* of time helping craft the Fedora trademark guidelines, and had the opportunity to work with some really great attorneys who spent all day every day dealing with open source and law. |
| 18:54.02 | tm1000 | jsmith: anyways. its a good read. I just found it interesting that he stired up more controversy but announcing that he is in an agrument with you. |
| 18:54.16 | jsmith | tm1000: So if nothing else, I'm trying to share a bit of my knowledge about what I've seen and what I've learned along the journey |
| 18:54.36 | jsmith | tm1000: Yeah, again -- I think he's got enough ad revenue off his blog that controversy helps him out |
| 18:54.55 | tm1000 | jsmith: true. very true |
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| 19:41.29 | pabelanger | tm1000, jsmith: Ya, he seems to do it to drive people to his site. He did the same thing when 1.4 was deprecated, then started complaining that Digium should still provide support on it, because he was still using it. |
| 19:42.17 | pabelanger | We basically put out a request for somebody to maintain 1.4 and backport any fixes, but he decide just to ignore the issue and try to drive more people to his blog and form: http://pbxinaflash.com/community/index.php?threads/backburner-for-asterisk-1-8.8928/page-3#post-72397 |
| 19:45.08 | tm1000 | pabelanger: this is long standing with him. Didnt you tweet something to him once in the past about that? |
| 19:46.47 | tm1000 | yeah you did. I remember that |
| 19:47.49 | pabelanger | Yup |
| 19:48.03 | pabelanger | he took my tweet, tried to pass it off as Digium |
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| 19:48.46 | tm1000 | pabelanger: wow he sucked both you and leif into that thread. Hope you took a shower afterwards |
| 19:48.46 | pabelanger | When I called him on it, my post was edited or something like that |
| 19:49.17 | tm1000 | pabelanger: yeah that is the mantra. you say something and he goes back and edits his post so as to look like he already knew what you have been saying |
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| 23:52.21 | ipengineer | Is there a way to turn Q.850 cause headers off in PJSIP currently? I know this can be done in chan_sip.. |