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| 14:46.39 | hexanol | In config_options.h, for the aco_type_item_pre_process typedef, it is written: |
| 14:46.50 | hexanol | "This callback could be used to merge in settings inherited from the global settings if necessary, despite that being a bad thing to do!" |
| 14:47.02 | hexanol | I was wondering, why is it "a bad thing to do" ? |
| 15:08.28 | Qwell | because inheriting settings from general is a terrible way to handle things |
| 15:20.41 | hexanol | ok, but then, I could ask why is it terrible ? |
| 15:21.24 | hexanol | is it from an implementation point of view or from a more general point of view ? |
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| 15:33.34 | hexanol | so your advice would be to remove all the options from a global config that are solely used as default values for items config ? |
| 15:34.26 | mjordan | hexanol: I'm sorry, what's the context for that? |
| 15:34.48 | hexanol | mjordan: I was talking to Qwell |
| 15:34.50 | hexanol | but my question was |
| 15:34.56 | hexanol | In config_options.h, for the aco_type_item_pre_process typedef, it is written: |
| 15:34.59 | hexanol | "This callback could be used to merge in settings inherited from the global settings if necessary, despite that being a bad thing to do!" |
| 15:35.03 | hexanol | I was wondering, why is it "a bad thing to do" ? |
| 15:35.49 | hexanol | he answered "because inheriting settings from general is a terrible way to handle things", which left me a bit puzzled |
| 15:35.58 | mjordan | templates express the concept much better |
| 15:36.09 | hexanol | templates are supported by config_options ? |
| 15:36.15 | mjordan | he's correct :-) |
| 15:36.15 | mjordan | if you want to see how that concept goes awry, take a look at chan_sip |
| 15:36.22 | mjordan | templates are supported by the system it is built on top of, so yes |
| 15:36.31 | hexanol | k |
| 15:36.43 | hexanol | well that's a more complete answer :) |
| 15:36.44 | hexanol | make sense |
| 15:37.38 | hexanol | thank you |
| 15:37.43 | mjordan | As an example: the 'rules' in chan_sip for global options have had a lot of odd side effects and unintended behavior. They also require the code in chan_sip to apply the general settings, then decide how they get overridden. It's very flexible, but it also creates behavior that is unpredictable, which is a bad end user experience |
| 15:37.45 | mjordan | no problem |
| 15:37.51 | mjordan | templates always work the same :-) |
| 15:37.56 | mjordan | and are determined by the end user, which is also good |
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| 15:57.31 | file | config parsing! it's easy as pie |
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| 19:05.22 | kharwell | in res_pjsip the from header doesn't necessarily need to have a defined endpoint in pjsip.conf right? |
| 19:32.45 | file | I don't understand the question |
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| 19:37.18 | kharwell | yeah poorly worded - I'm getting an error "Request from '"user" <sip:user@localhost>' failed for '127.0.0.1:5061' (callid: 1-21293@127.0.1.1) - No matching endpoint found" - which I think make sense since endpoint user is not defined at the moment? |
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| 19:37.48 | file | correct |
| 19:38.53 | mjordan | kharwell: it's valid (imo) to require sending "from" something be a valid endpoint. That's the way it works for XMPP (that is, from has to map to *something*) - chan_sip is a little odd in that, IIRC, it doesn't |
| 19:39.28 | file | it has to in the sense that what we have for a common endpoint identifier uses that |
| 19:42.59 | kharwell | but if I am calling from endpoint X (not defined) should I not be able to make a call to endpoint Y which is defined? I can't define all the endpoints out there that might call into my system. Or am I off in the weeds here? |
| 19:43.25 | file | that's anonymous calling support |
| 19:43.44 | file | there's a module which you can enable that is used as a last resort which returns an endpoint named "anonymous" from the configuration |
| 19:44.22 | kharwell | file: thanks I knew I was forgetting something |
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