| 00:08.12 | gtjoseph | Ah, got it. It was the ao2_ref's. |
| 00:09.59 | mjordan | yay |
| 00:10.07 | mjordan | going to bounce home, be back on in about an hour |
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| 00:10.22 | leifmadsen | mjordan: BACK TO WORK |
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| 11:29.12 | tzafrir | Is it legal on asterisk 1.8 to login with no secret? |
| 11:29.40 | tzafrir | From what I see in main/manager.c:authenticate() - it's not |
| 11:29.47 | tzafrir | Is this a bug or a feature? |
| 11:30.22 | wdoekes | no secret or empty secret? |
| 11:30.31 | tzafrir | no secret |
| 11:30.56 | tzafrir | btw: if a manager issue had a secret but it was removed, "reload" won't remove it |
| 11:31.07 | tzafrir | (but this is only tested in 1.8.13) |
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| 11:31.45 | tzafrir | I'm trying to test AST-2013-007 and can't login to the manager |
| 11:36.11 | tzafrir | soh. I had a different instance of asterisk running and it, to, had a user called "test" |
| 11:37.54 | wdoekes | no problems then? |
| 11:40.40 | wdoekes | but yes, it indeed looks like removing settings from a manager user won't get you the defaults |
| 11:40.40 | tzafrir | My question above still stands |
| 11:40.55 | tzafrir | (it's from looking at authenticate() in recent 1.8) |
| 11:41.12 | wdoekes | I don't think you can login without a secret. as far as I know you either supply a Secret or a Key |
| 11:41.25 | tzafrir | ok |
| 11:41.34 | wdoekes | an empty password would probably work though |
| 11:45.34 | wdoekes | as for the reload thing: seems wrong indeed that it only updates values instead of resetting them to defaults (e.g. removing write= does nothing, you have to add the empty write= to remove previously set write perms) |
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| 15:54.27 | Qwell | mjordan: oh snap, is it happening?! |
| 15:54.53 | mjordan | Qwell: that's the goal. Some people aren't good at keeping their mouths shut |
| 15:54.59 | mjordan | loose lips sink ships people |
| 15:55.00 | mjordan | :-) |
| 15:55.03 | Qwell | mjordan: wiki ratted you out |
| 15:55.13 | mjordan | Qwell: so did someone on twitter /cough pabelanger |
| 15:56.02 | Qwell | mjordan: well, you did kind of say it in this channel yesterday :p |
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| 15:56.13 | mjordan | hey, asterisk-dev != twitter |
| 15:56.26 | mjordan | and I said it was the goal, not that it was happening |
| 15:56.58 | file | dream the dream |
| 15:58.50 | mjordan | It *should* happen today, barring any catastrophes |
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| 16:13.12 | pabelanger | Let the airing of grievances begin |
| 16:16.47 | mjordan | pabelanger: that's what twitter is for :-) |
| 16:17.04 | pabelanger | people are pissed are they? |
| 16:17.18 | mjordan | nah |
| 16:17.34 | pabelanger | okay, cool. |
| 16:17.37 | mjordan | but you do know that if we found a critical bug at the last second, we'd look kinda silly |
| 16:17.38 | mjordan | :-D |
| 16:18.05 | leifmadsen | good thing it wouldn't be me looking silly |
| 16:18.08 | mjordan | you should look at the patches that went in last night |
| 16:18.09 | leifmadsen | that would be too file like |
| 16:18.21 | mjordan | one of them refactored masquerades for god's sake |
| 16:18.26 | mjordan | it's been a little touch & go :-) |
| 16:18.27 | leifmadsen | what could go wrong? |
| 16:18.32 | mjordan | leifmadsen: exactly! |
| 16:18.37 | file | hey man, WE'RE AWESOME |
| 16:18.37 | leifmadsen | also, asterisk 12 is a preview release! |
| 16:18.42 | file | TASTES LIKE CHICKEN!!! |
| 16:18.52 | gtjoseph | hides |
| 16:18.55 | mjordan | and victory |
| 16:18.56 | leifmadsen | things are allowed to be crazy in preview releases! |
| 16:19.10 | mjordan | gtjoseph: btw, we're going over the CLI patch right now. Do you mind if we tweak a few things and commit it? |
| 16:19.16 | pabelanger | Did a plan ever come together for ARI versioning? |
| 16:19.42 | pabelanger | Or have we figured out the best way to detect it? |
| 16:19.50 | pabelanger | this is more for when 12.1 drops with new features |
| 16:19.51 | gtjoseph | of course not. what needs to be tweaked? i'm doing a little more refactor now (for later) |
| 16:19.54 | mjordan | pabelanger: not a concrete one yet. We bumped the ARI version to 1.0.0. The proposed plan - which hasn't gone over asterisk-app-dev yet - is to use semantic versionining in the headers |
| 16:20.13 | mjordan | gtjoseph: cool - I think opticron spotted a few ref leaks |
| 16:20.18 | leedm777 | pabelanger: It's still in the rough idea state, at https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/x/WwCUAQ |
| 16:20.32 | gtjoseph | nor surprising. |
| 16:20.35 | gtjoseph | not |
| 16:20.37 | mjordan | pabelanger: but yeah, there needs to be a way for it to communicate versioning in 12.1 |
| 16:20.40 | mjordan | or thereabouts |
| 16:20.47 | mjordan | gtjoseph: ref counting is tricky |
| 16:21.04 | leedm777 | pabelanger: as far as detection, there's an apiVersion field in the resources.json file. |
| 16:21.05 | pabelanger | mjordan, leedm777 okay, cool. Checking code for version bump now |
| 16:21.16 | mjordan | it should be in the resources json |
| 16:21.33 | gtjoseph | especially at the last minute. :) |
| 16:22.10 | mjordan | gtjoseph: yeah, sorry about that. If we don't get it out today, then - with everyone out - it wouldn't be until January, and honestly, we've really stopped getting much beta feedback. It feels like it's time to let it run a few laps |
| 16:22.20 | leedm777 | pabelanger: the API will follow Semantic Versioning, so you'll be able to decide compatibility from the version number. |
| 16:22.34 | gtjoseph | absolutely! |
| 16:22.52 | mjordan | http://semver.org/ |
| 16:23.14 | mjordan | leedm777: we really should have adopted that for AMI as well |
| 16:23.48 | leedm777 | agrees |
| 16:24.03 | leedm777 | we also should have bumped the AMI rev to 2.0 in 12. |
| 16:24.12 | mjordan | leedm777: well, technically, it isn't too late. |
| 16:24.19 | mjordan | although that'd be a lot of links to go tweak |
| 16:24.19 | file | AMI! bandaids upon bandaids |
| 16:24.30 | mjordan | but not impossible in an hour |
| 16:25.31 | leedm777 | would not object |
| 16:26.14 | pabelanger | I'm curious to see how we are going to handle the ARI version when asterisk 12 and 13 are released. |
| 16:26.16 | mjordan | everyone okay with 2.0.0? |
| 16:26.25 | mjordan | pabelanger: they should be independent of each other |
| 16:26.51 | pabelanger | mjordan, any idea what the version would look like? |
| 16:26.57 | mjordan | nope! |
| 16:27.02 | pabelanger | nods |
| 16:27.04 | mjordan | it could be 1.23.10 |
| 16:27.08 | mjordan | it could be 2.18.1 |
| 16:27.12 | mjordan | it could be.... 1.0.0 |
| 16:27.15 | mjordan | (but probably not) |
| 16:27.28 | pabelanger | let me rephrase my question |
| 16:28.13 | pabelanger | if asterisk 12 is 1.0.10 and asterisk 13 1.1.4, you couldn't bump asterisk 12 to 1.1.x, since asterisk 13 is already using it |
| 16:28.43 | pabelanger | either way, not an issue today. Just thinking down the road |
| 16:31.28 | mjordan | pabelanger: any new feature that does into 12 goes into 13. |
| 16:31.38 | mjordan | hm. |
| 16:31.46 | mjordan | WELL, that could be a slight problem |
| 16:32.01 | mjordan | we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it. |
| 16:32.12 | pabelanger | Ya |
| 16:32.20 | mjordan | pabelanger: but good thought. |
| 16:32.28 | pabelanger | Had this issue before, the whole cert version thing |
| 16:32.30 | mjordan | we might need to think through how features are applied to both 12/13 for ARI features |
| 16:34.45 | pabelanger | The hard sell in mid release is the version breakage, we should avoid that like the plague. But, we should hash it out on the list to try and cover all the paths |
| 16:35.12 | mjordan | pabelanger: the good news is, with 12, there shouldn't be very many features (if any) that would go into 13 but not 12 |
| 16:35.44 | mjordan | since 12's policy allows for new features for APIs. So we should be able to keep the Y in lock step if we're careful |
| 16:35.52 | mjordan | breaking changes should be avoided anyway. |
| 17:03.38 | leifmadsen | mjordan: since no one specifically replied, I have no issue with 2.0.0 for AMI version bump. Good idea to bump it. |
| 17:08.05 | newtonr | "pjsip list contacts" causes a crash on my system. backtrace here https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-23050 |
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| 17:12.54 | pabelanger | leifmadsen, +1 |
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| 18:24.49 | tm1000 | leifmadsen: are we saying 1.4 == 2.0 ?? |
| 18:24.51 | tm1000 | for AMI |
| 18:24.58 | leifmadsen | uhhhh... |
| 18:25.06 | leifmadsen | I defer to mjordan |
| 18:25.24 | tm1000 | well 1.4 is the draft spec of AMI for 12. so just assuming :-) |
| 18:25.26 | leifmadsen | I believe we're saying changes to AMI in Asterisk 12 constitute an AMI version bump to 2.0 |
| 18:25.41 | leifmadsen | what it was listed as before or whatnot I'm not privy to |
| 18:26.15 | tm1000 | 13 is LTS right? |
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| 18:59.04 | mjordan | tm1000: yes, I'm changing the version number to 2.0.0 (ooo, another number) |
| 18:59.14 | mjordan | (1) This gives us semantic versioning for AMI, which has well defined rules |
| 18:59.21 | mjordan | (2) AMI is pretty different, so we might as well |
| 18:59.42 | mjordan | tm1000: the spec is updated on the wiki |
| 19:02.08 | mjordan | leedm777: nuts, I completely forgot about this. Right now, devicestates uses deviceState for pretty much everything to identify the device state you want to manipulate |
| 19:02.20 | mjordan | leedm777: however, the applications resource expects the subscription to be to device_state |
| 19:02.27 | mjordan | which feels weird and wrong, and doesn't match the documentation |
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| 19:11.32 | tm1000 | mjordan: im all good with it being 2.0 I just wanted clarification. I think 2.0 is logical. and If you were still calling asterisk 1.11 right now I would think 12 would be the point you break it off into calling it 12 with the amount of work you've all done |
| 19:12.05 | tm1000 | so same with AMI, do you keep doing 1.x or just say "ok this is enough for 2" and with it using stasis I think it's enough |
| 19:12.41 | mjordan | cool - this also feels like a good time to make the version number mean something, and with semantic versioning, we can at least point to that as to when to change a version number |
| 19:13.29 | tm1000 | mjordan: we are following suite as well |
| 19:16.23 | tm1000 | suit* (terrible) |
| 19:17.21 | mjordan | tm1000: it's like, we're all talking and stuff! |
| 19:19.50 | mjordan | tm1000: so what all versions are you guys planning on bumping things to? |
| 19:21.48 | tm1000 | mjordan: base will be 12 |
| 19:21.53 | mjordan | tm1000: awesome |
| 19:22.08 | tm1000 | modules will be their respective versions around that and wont follow or bump to a version just to match the base |
| 19:22.17 | mjordan | tm1000: I'm slow, Tony told me that this morning. :-) |
| 19:22.36 | mjordan | so, ast_sip_for_each_identify being used directly in res_pjsip means that we would have a hard dependency between res_pjsip and the identifier module that implements that |
| 19:23.01 | putnopvut | are you guys who are testing the CLI stuff just applying the patch from the review or is there a branch you're working in? |
| 19:23.03 | mjordan | I'm not sure we can do that. Ideally, the identifier modules should provide a callback that is generic that is called by res_pjsip, not expose a global symbol |
| 19:23.10 | mjordan | putnopvut: there's a branch |
| 19:23.17 | mjordan | team/mjordan/cli-pjsip |
| 19:23.19 | mjordan | (i think) |
| 19:23.35 | file | mjordan, agreed |
| 19:23.42 | mjordan | whoops - pjsip-cli |
| 19:23.48 | mjordan | /team/mjordan/pjsip-cli |
| 19:23.59 | mjordan | k, so fix for today |
| 19:24.00 | putnopvut | mjordan: okay, T. Hanks |
| 19:24.15 | mjordan | I'd prefer to not lose the identify formatting |
| 19:24.29 | mjordan | but if we can't come up with something in the next bit, better that than have that dependency |
| 19:26.05 | mjordan | is anyone looking at rnewton's crash yet? |
| 19:26.52 | mjordan | https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-23050 |
| 19:27.39 | kharwell | mjordan: I can start looking into it |
| 19:29.14 | mjordan | kharwell: go for it |
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| 20:07.43 | opticron | kharwell, not sure if you've seen it yet, but since you're working in endpoint identifier ip, the AMI and CLI formatters aren't being cleaned up on module unload |
| 20:09.13 | mjordan | who is taking the identify formatting public function usage problem? |
| 20:09.23 | kharwell | opticron: didn't notice that I'll add that in |
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| 20:13.06 | kharwell | mjordan: I don't think there is a fast way around that. from what I can tell the way the cli formatters handle their callbacks will need to be refactored |
| 20:14.04 | mjordan | pull it. :-( |
| 20:15.47 | mjordan | file: mind pulling out that function (if no one else has done it yet)? |
| 20:22.08 | file | now that I have returned to my laptop sure |
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| 20:24.16 | mjordan | so... I'm ready to release when the CLI patch is done. |
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| 20:46.09 | gtjoseph | any pjsip_cli stuff I can be cleaning up? I hae some additional refactors but don't want to submit another patch if you guys are monkeying with it. |
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| 20:48.20 | newtonr | gtjoseph, just wanted to say great job on the commands! other than the few trivial issues i found with the output, it all looks excellent. |
| 20:48.45 | gtjoseph | newton2: thanks! |
| 20:48.53 | gtjoseph | newtonr: thanks! |
| 20:51.30 | mjordan | gtjoseph: we're monkeying, but I'd say go ahead and update review board. We'll keep the review open and pull in any tweaks into 12.1 |
| 20:51.44 | mjordan | it takes a bit to make the tarball and push it live :-) |
| 20:52.09 | gtjoseph | you want a new rb entry or update the existing one with another diff? |
| 20:52.19 | mjordan | Up to you |
| 20:52.22 | mjordan | I'm okay either way |
| 20:53.16 | gtjoseph | maybe i'll wait a few hours and pull after the release, then submit a new one. |
| 20:53.42 | mjordan | sounds good :-) |
| 20:54.04 | mjordan | and thanks again for doing the work on that - quite a lot of work to pull all that info together |
| 20:54.49 | gtjoseph | glad to help. |
| 20:58.03 | mjordan | gtjoseph: mind if I add you to the CREDITS file? |
| 20:58.47 | gtjoseph | not at all |
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