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| 08:01.50 | dose | Hi all |
| 08:40.00 | dose | Hi, I would like to know if someone knows about a future SIP-I support into Asterisk ? |
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| 12:03.19 | pabelanger | dose, I haven't heard either way. But if you want a feature in asterisk, you're likely better to submit a patch with it to then gauge the community |
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| 14:12.28 | dose | @pabelanger thanks for the answer unfortunately I'm not sufficiently skilled in dev to do it |
| 14:16.10 | pabelanger | dose: you can try and rally the troops, the more people that want support for it, the more likely hood the feature will be developed by somebody |
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| 14:41.32 | leifmadsen | dose: although in reality, unless you can do it yourself, pay someone to do it, or you see it on a roadmap by Digium from AstriDevCon, then it's unlikely to be implemented within any reasonable time frame. |
| 14:46.50 | dose | yes unfortunatelly |
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| 14:49.20 | file | or it's interesting enough for someone to become intrigued by it |
| 14:50.45 | pabelanger | dose: now is your chance. Taunt file with your request |
| 14:51.30 | mjordan | that is unlikely to produce results |
| 14:51.31 | mjordan | :-P |
| 14:52.20 | file | yes, as I already looked :P |
| 14:59.03 | dose | you were already looking into what ? |
| 15:02.44 | pabelanger | dose: file likes funny hats, so that is your leverage |
| 15:03.35 | dose | if he want to program the support of SIP-I it could be interesting :) |
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| 15:15.40 | Corydon76-work | file also likes muffins |
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| 15:30.10 | opticron | and bagels from montreal |
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| 18:57.09 | dms | got to hand it to dlee . . just looked at statis for the first time since it was conceptual . . pretty impressive! |
| 18:57.17 | dms | *stasis |
| 18:57.26 | file | concept becomes manifest |
| 18:57.29 | dms | indeed |
| 18:57.33 | file | manifest becomes ice cream |
| 18:57.39 | file | mmm ice cream |
| 18:57.41 | dms | and everyone loves ice cream |
| 18:57.48 | Qwell | dlee becomes cupcakes |
| 18:58.37 | mjordan | it has been quite the year |
| 18:58.49 | mjordan | at some point I'm going to crunch through the 'stats' |
| 18:59.03 | dms | mjordan! been a while! |
| 18:59.13 | mjordan | indeed! I lurk |
| 18:59.17 | dms | lol |
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| 21:16.08 | WIMPy | goes back to basics. |
| 21:16.42 | WIMPy | What do you guys think are the chances of switches coming to a fully working state (again?)? |
| 21:24.45 | Qwell | Zero, if it isn't reported. |
| 21:25.08 | WIMPy | They aren't even documented anywhere. |
| 21:25.32 | WIMPy | And that's not the only reason I feel nobody cares about them. |
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| 21:37.44 | mjordan | WIMPy: What use cases are you thinking of? |
| 21:38.44 | WIMPy | If you nest a loopback switch and a dundi switch, more or less bad things happen, depending on source channeltype. |
| 21:39.19 | mjordan | I'm not sure that's a use case so much as a problem with switches |
| 21:39.32 | WIMPy | Unfortunatly that's the only way to go if you can't validate the destination number in another way. |
| 21:40.17 | WIMPy | IIRC the observations I had with dahsi didn't requitre dundi. |
| 21:40.58 | WIMPy | dahdi |
| 21:41.36 | WIMPy | Unfortunately the effects are sometimes a littel unspecific and sometimes rather interesting to debug. |
| 21:42.48 | mjordan | So, at it's heart, a switch statement is a way to share control flow from some external resource. But it's very dialplan specific. |
| 21:43.23 | mjordan | Hence my question. What use cases would you do with a switch statement that you can't do today? |
| 21:43.31 | WIMPy | There seem to be race conditions involved. |
| 21:43.33 | mjordan | That doesn't mean that there aren't outstanding issues with existing switch statement usage |
| 21:44.38 | WIMPy | As just said, dundi needs a loopback switch to canonicialise the destination number. |
| 21:45.12 | WIMPy | I know that's not an issue if you know when a number is valid (complete), but if you don't that's the only way. |
| 21:46.16 | mjordan | Well. Since pbx_dundi is externally supported, the odds of us investing a lot of time and energy into it aren't high. I know Peter Racz does a lot of work on it however. |
| 21:46.55 | mjordan | The bigger picture I was alluding to is that switch statements are useful for very specific use cases, but the fact that they are tied tightly to dialplan mechanisms limits them. In general, I'm not sure there's a lot of bang for the buck dumping engineering effort into improving or extending them. |
| 21:47.03 | mjordan | Granted, bugs are bugs. |
| 21:47.31 | WIMPy | I don't think dundi is the real issue, maybe because of timing, but otherwise I think the real issue is either with loopback or switches in general. |
| 21:48.03 | mjordan | There's only one general problem with the switch processing that I'm aware of, and it mostly affects users of pbx_realtime. |
| 21:48.28 | WIMPy | I surely wouldn't mind another concept. The fact that switched calls don;t end up in the dialplan at all isn't really ideal. |
| 21:48.32 | mjordan | And it has nothing really to do with a race condition in the switch processing - it's that the channel is put into autoservice while held with a recursive mutex that shouldn't be held |
| 21:49.04 | WIMPy | I wouldn't dare to try realtime :-) |
| 21:49.38 | WIMPy | But a simple loopback switch and an include in the same context alredy breaks lable matching. |
| 21:50.08 | mjordan | It violates the match ordering specified in extensions.conf? |
| 21:50.26 | WIMPy | You can work around that issue by replacing the include by another loopback switch however. |
| 21:50.42 | WIMPy | It stops finding lables. |
| 21:51.07 | mjordan | it's not an issue that I'm aware of - and if it's not in the issue tracker, then we don't know about it |
| 21:51.52 | WIMPy | Needs a lot of testing to correctly describe the issues. |
| 21:56.04 | WIMPy | The reason I think it's a race condition is because of what I've seen witch dahdi. Calls only sometimes went to exten s, most of the time they went to exten s0, 0 being the first digit of the dialed |
| 21:56.06 | WIMPy | number. |
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