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| 14:00.33 | tzafrir | Is rmeyerriecks around? |
| 14:03.05 | opticron | I'll poke him |
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| 15:58.33 | file | opticron, your hidden review gave me a thought... |
| 15:59.19 | file | Two words: message channels |
| 16:01.49 | opticron | file, that review needs rework upon clarification from mjordan |
| 16:01.58 | opticron | message channels... |
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| 16:02.41 | mjordan | file: indeed |
| 16:02.55 | mjordan | file: the problem is I'm not sure whether or not they should be hidden or not |
| 16:03.06 | mjordan | sometimes you may want them hidden, sometimes you may not. I'm inclined to keep them public |
| 16:03.20 | file | I don't think having them public really gets you anything, and interacting/controlling them is useless |
| 16:03.38 | file | it's an exposed implementation detail >_> |
| 16:03.44 | mjordan | file: by message channels, you're referring to the channel driver that handles technology independent message requests, correct? |
| 16:03.49 | file | yes |
| 16:03.58 | mjordan | huh. I thought you could specify where in the dialplan those are handled |
| 16:04.23 | file | you can but I meant external influence - like hangup or redirecting it |
| 16:04.29 | mjordan | ah |
| 16:04.31 | mjordan | yes, that would be "bad" |
| 16:04.41 | mjordan | Plus, you don't ever want a CDR or CEL for it |
| 16:04.42 | mjordan | most likely. |
| 16:04.49 | file | right |
| 16:04.51 | mjordan | The problem is I'm not sure what all use cases we have for that channel driver |
| 16:05.01 | mjordan | someone may be using CEL to monitor it for all I know |
| 16:05.17 | file | that would be insane |
| 16:05.21 | mjordan | yup |
| 16:05.27 | mjordan | but we've been wrong before ;-) |
| 16:05.59 | mjordan | It'd be nice to squelch it out completely - it certainly clogs up the CLI as well |
| 16:06.14 | file | opticron, can you add a note or something to your review for that saying it is being reworked? (I didn't see anything) |
| 16:06.29 | leifmadsen | who do I have to tackle for an Asterisk sticker around here?! |
| 16:06.29 | leifmadsen | :D |
| 16:07.04 | leifmadsen | killed the conversation I guess heh |
| 16:07.16 | file | leifmadsen, what kind? |
| 16:07.31 | leifmadsen | file: white for the back of my car |
| 16:07.55 | leifmadsen | I have one... but it was of poor quality... think it was old and got crinkled etc |
| 16:08.06 | leifmadsen | want to replace it, since my license plates are now "SHIFT 8" |
| 16:08.51 | opticron | file, it came up at the end of the stand-up |
| 16:08.54 | opticron | but sure |
| 16:09.06 | file | opticron, sure but that doesn't help anyone external :P |
| 16:10.10 | mjordan | leifmadsen: e-mail me an address, I'll see what I can do :-) |
| 16:10.26 | opticron | I'll just mark it discarded for now and reopen when I'm ready to post another patch |
| 16:10.37 | leifmadsen | mjordan: <3 |
| 16:10.39 | mjordan | leifmadsen: while we're on it - can you think of any reason why an external facing system would want updates about the technology agnostic message channel driver? |
| 16:10.55 | mjordan | er, external facing system => external system getting updates from Asterisk |
| 16:11.03 | mjordan | which could be a billing system, something listening over AMI, etc. |
| 16:11.31 | leifmadsen | mjordan: thinking... didn't read the scrollback, but you mean the new messaging system you're building? |
| 16:11.44 | leifmadsen | what kind of updates do you mean? |
| 16:11.55 | file | no, when you send text messages through Asterisk (you can do that) |
| 16:12.13 | leifmadsen | I would probably want to know ya... for either billing, or even just notification purposes |
| 16:12.27 | leifmadsen | perhaps to pop up information on a web service, or website, etc |
| 16:12.45 | leifmadsen | or even to trigger scripts to do something when a message was sent |
| 16:13.20 | mjordan | k - I think we'll leave it alone for now then. It will have the same behavior it does today at least |
| 16:13.42 | file | (what happens with CEL and CDRs right now? O.o) |
| 16:13.49 | mjordan | file: who knows. |
| 16:13.58 | mjordan | CEL almost certainly spams it out |
| 16:14.09 | mjordan | CDRs are a big mystery. I'll have to research that. |
| 16:14.34 | mjordan | In CDR land I can filter that channel technology out easily enough - but I'm not sure I should, given that someone may, for some crazy reason, want to bill someone for each message they send through |
| 16:14.42 | mjordan | You could just as easily NoCDR the entry point in the dialplan |
| 16:15.51 | file | I'm more worried that it, well, looks enough like a valid record to actually get treated as a call |
| 16:17.36 | mjordan | true |
| 16:23.55 | Juggie | .. |
| 16:25.39 | file | ... |
| 16:28.34 | tzafrir | sruffell, did rmeyerriecks or you had a chance to look at the sysfs fix? |
| 16:29.39 | sruffell | hmm…I know I haven't looked at it yet. I'm not sure about datachomper. Let me see.... |
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| 17:33.33 | sruffell | tzafrir: ok…replied and acked |
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| 17:34.51 | tzafrir | sruffell, is there a 2.7 release branch? |
| 17:35.43 | sruffell | No..I don't think anything happened in trunk that couldn't be in a 2.7. point release.... |
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| 19:22.02 | pabelanger | seanbright: Q: You have any default settings for iax2 over low bandwidth links that you use? |
| 19:22.17 | pabelanger | EG: satellite |
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| 20:15.48 | jsmith | pabelanger: If there's more than one concurrent call going over the satellite, make sure you set "trunk=yes" and an appropriate number for trunkfreq to lower bandwidth usage. |
| 20:18.25 | pabelanger | jsmith: Indeed, it is enable and right now I believe we have trunkfreq=80 |
| 20:18.40 | jsmith | pabelanger: Which codec are you using? |
| 20:18.51 | pabelanger | speex |
| 20:19.09 | jsmith | Gotcha |
| 20:19.17 | pabelanger | our available bandwidth per call is 16k each way |
| 20:20.05 | jsmith | That's oodles! |
| 20:21.15 | jsmith | You could use GSM and 20ms samples and still fit in 16k |
| 20:21.27 | jsmith | (assuming you're trunking, of course) |
| 20:21.54 | pabelanger | jsmith: Ya, on the list to try |
| 20:22.03 | pabelanger | but speex is holding up well right now |
| 20:22.59 | pabelanger | I'm pretty sure the settings we got going right now are in the sweat zone, but figured I ask around for others input |
| 20:23.15 | Qwell | work those settings! |
| 20:23.24 | Qwell | harder, faster, sweat! |
| 20:23.38 | Qwell | crawls back to his hole |
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