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| 08:04.55 | schmidts | good morning |
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| 08:10.25 | schmidts | ping irroot |
| 08:10.38 | irroot | yo |
| 08:10.58 | irroot | tell you nice thing about having monitor stollen got a bigger better one |
| 08:11.26 | schmidts | :D sometimes life is just good ;) |
| 08:11.55 | irroot | bitch is i had to pay for it but that comes with been the boss |
| 08:12.12 | schmidts | irroot uptime 18h:42 minutes -> 2821 calls processed and no deadlock |
| 08:13.00 | schmidts | but i see some hanging channels :( and they keep growing but no locks and i just cant hangup these :( |
| 08:13.05 | irroot | indeed have not seen a dl in 1.8 in ages not in my production fixed one in app_queue for 1.8.7 from mantis that did not affect me |
| 08:13.26 | irroot | what version you running there was a problem with orphaned channels |
| 08:15.16 | irroot | the problem is with pickups check the log file for things like "bad things can happen" |
| 08:17.53 | schmidts | i use my own development branch but its merged from 1.8svn so i guess this should be allready fixed in there |
| 08:18.51 | schmidts | but it looks like two phones are the problem for these hanging channels. i have around 50 dead channels in state down which cant be hangup and 43 are from these two phones. |
| 08:18.56 | schmidts | snom phones what else :P |
| 08:19.01 | irroot | yeah if you in your pickup patch mess with the channel flags or stop them been set can cause it |
| 08:19.57 | irroot | show channel sip/..... and see if there blockers/threads and what exten/context/app |
| 08:20.07 | irroot | to work back to where the problem is |
| 08:28.37 | schmidts | no blocking, no data but i see an extension and context but this locks fine to me |
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| 09:22.54 | irroot | schmidts you use app_queue heavily |
| 09:24.37 | schmidts | not heavily but yes it is used |
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| 09:44.30 | irroot | jenga coding when you change one block of code and it all crashes |
| 09:47.06 | schmidts | :D |
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| 09:50.12 | irroot | search and destroy .... a multi folder search and replace that goes horridly wrong |
| 09:50.17 | irroot | fuck this DSL connex is droping constantly |
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| 11:27.53 | jmls | #asterisk-users is the correct name for the users channel, right ? |
| 11:28.15 | jmls | is very lonely in there ... |
| 11:28.34 | kpfleming | jmls: yes, it is |
| 11:28.45 | kpfleming | wait... no. it's #asterisk |
| 11:29.02 | kpfleming | asterisk-users is the name of the mailing list.. they don't match |
| 11:32.39 | anonymouz666 | to catch a deadlock on a very loaded system, debug_threads can double the load? I am afraid to enable, because the load is already high... 8.00 and with this enabled can become much worse |
| 11:35.24 | jmls | kpfleming: heh. there is a #asterisk-users channel - it's just me in it ;) |
| 11:35.26 | jmls | thanks |
| 11:37.27 | kpfleming | anonymouz666: i don't know that there's any way to say how much it will increase load... but it will be noticeable |
| 11:37.39 | kpfleming | jmls: you can create any channel you want, just by joining it. |
| 11:38.12 | jmls | kpfleming: urgh. now I feel stupid |
| 11:47.03 | anonymouz666 | kpfleming: I don't know if it is recommended to enable at that load, but I also don't know any other way to grab easily the locks |
| 11:48.11 | kpfleming | a load average of 8 is very high indeed, unless you have an 8-CPU system |
| 11:50.16 | snuff-home | well load avg of 8.. on a 'linux' system is high :) |
| 11:50.36 | snuff-home | BSD not so much |
| 11:50.56 | snuff-home | another awesome way to blow ur load avg is disk io |
| 12:06.33 | wdoekes2 | jmls: did you see http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2011-October/051796.html |
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| 12:14.00 | oej | meetme is opening but not closing timer and pseudo channels |
| 12:14.25 | irroot | oh that can lead to all sorts of mischief |
| 12:14.43 | oej | Well dahdi only has 1024 channels, so we die after that point |
| 12:14.50 | irroot | any timer in particular ?? |
| 12:15.02 | irroot | or only dahdi ? |
| 12:16.57 | kpfleming | meetme can only use dahdi |
| 12:17.20 | irroot | true that morning KP bit early for you |
| 12:17.25 | kpfleming | oej: those leaked pseudo channels are also wasting resources |
| 12:17.33 | kpfleming | irroot: i've been awake for over an hour :-) |
| 12:18.06 | irroot | dedication like that mmm need a raise ;P |
| 12:19.13 | oej | This is really weird. Before logging out of meetme, I had 6 /dev/dahdi handles |
| 12:19.24 | oej | Then suddenly over 30 |
| 12:19.55 | oej | Now none |
| 12:20.05 | oej | I wonder what generated those 30... |
| 12:20.39 | oej | It stabilized to none now. But why did I have 6 open for 1 meet me? |
| 12:21.58 | kpfleming | how many channels were in the meetme? |
| 12:23.56 | oej | For one meet me with one participant I now have three pseudo and two timer lsof handles |
| 12:24.33 | oej | wait? I think I misinterpret lsof. The node is the file handle - if so I have only two. |
| 12:25.21 | oej | If I parse this right five fds on two files, so that means five open fds in dahdi, which is where I hit the roof. |
| 12:25.32 | oej | So I guess I was right after all |
| 12:25.47 | oej | One meet me, with one participant generates five file handles |
| 12:31.46 | oej | Two conferences, ten file handles. |
| 12:32.13 | oej | Is there a reason why we have only 1024 in dahdi? Can we raise it to 3000? |
| 12:34.38 | irroot | oej need nice round number like 4096 :P |
| 12:34.58 | kpfleming | with dahdi 2.5, there isn't any particular reason to have a limit, i suppose. with earlier reasons the channels were kept in an array, so there had to be a defined size for that array. |
| 12:35.19 | kpfleming | however, that number of open dahdi channels for a single meetme is excessive, and if they aren't being closed, that's got to be fixed. |
| 12:35.36 | kpfleming | how many do you see for one meetme with two participants? |
| 12:35.48 | irroot | kpfleming having some logical limit could prevent a blowout when it goes nuclear |
| 12:36.29 | kpfleming | right |
| 12:42.18 | jmls | wdoekes2: nope. Well, now, yes ... ;) |
| 12:42.52 | jmls | However, I never used realtime sip - only queues and queue members |
| 12:43.57 | wdoekes2 | ok, could you spare a minute to comment on the list? |
| 12:46.00 | jmls | will do |
| 12:46.28 | jmls | ok, why are applications not case-sensitive, but functions are ? |
| 12:47.29 | jmls | URGH. and variables |
| 12:47.44 | jmls | has never come across the problem before now |
| 12:52.44 | wdoekes2 | hehe.. agreed, apps shouldn't be insensitive either. I always look up the correct spelling from help and use that |
| 12:54.43 | irroot | apps is bit more complex as precedent is set funcs were from the start strict |
| 12:55.25 | irroot | i use mixed case in dialplan to make it readable ie GotoIf NoOp |
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| 13:15.22 | oej | kpfleming: they are being closed in most cases, but we have systems where they are open |
| 13:15.35 | oej | but five file handles for one meetme with one user? |
| 13:17.59 | jmls | irroot: that's why I got caught. I wanted to use Set(Group()=foo) instead of Set(GROUP()=foo) |
| 13:18.22 | jmls | makes the dialplan look like FORTRAN with all the shouting ;) |
| 13:20.09 | irroot | ast_exists_extension in sip_new its not happy |
| 13:20.14 | irroot | causes deadlock |
| 13:20.37 | irroot | its called on null exten with the pvt locked |
| 13:20.47 | irroot | er null chan |
| 13:21.59 | oej | Correction, one meet me with one participant five fd's, with two participants seven fd's. |
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| 13:53.35 | irroot | ast_merge_contexts_and_delete ASTERISK-18740 hold the channels container lock ?? to prevent new channels while reloading |
| 13:54.29 | jmls | interesting ... is this supported, or just a happy chance that it works ... ? |
| 13:54.31 | jmls | exten => *800,n,Set(foo=,f3) |
| 13:54.32 | jmls | exten => *800,n,Set(ARRAY(f1,f2${foo})=d1,d2,d3) |
| 13:55.46 | irroot | jmls seems logical as the variables passed to the func are parsed but could be a bitch to make sense of in production |
| 13:55.54 | jsmith | Depends on your definition of "supported", jmls |
| 13:57.49 | irroot | had someone demand support the one day aka whining user thinking all opensource is free when he wants it ... told him if you want support get a better fitting bra |
| 13:58.28 | jmls | jsmith: I don't want it to stop working one day ... |
| 13:59.39 | jmls | irroot: agree. However, it makes some sense when returning data from a webservice that has a lot of commonality with some "extras" on the end depending on scenarios (ddi call, queue call, etc) |
| 14:00.46 | irroot | jmls that would be outside of the scope of the average user so yeah makes perfect sense to abuse it |
| 14:02.42 | jmls | lol |
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| 14:08.00 | jsmith | jmls: As I (barely?) understand it, it's interpreting everything as strings, so you should be good (at least in the short term -- I don't know what the long-term will bring, and anyone who does is trying to sell you something) |
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| 14:19.31 | irroot | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.41 | irroot | please check the patch ive posted |
| 14:19.50 | irroot | https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-18740 |
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| 14:32.13 | irroot | bugger that will invert locking order |
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| 14:33.31 | irroot | The_Boy_Wonder ps thx for looking at the chan_local codec fixup patch appreciate it when i get some time ill fix it up on your recomendations |
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| 14:40.05 | acidfoo | oej, I'm interested to hear more about the problem you found with Dhadi and meetme, keep posting on the mailing list please as soon as you have more info. thanks |
| 14:41.04 | oej | Will do |
| 14:41.10 | oej | For now, we're removing chan_dahdi from the systems |
| 14:43.50 | acidfoo | good |
| 14:44.43 | Qwell | I do believe sruffell mentioned that a few weeks ago. I also believe it's been fixed. |
| 14:45.00 | sruffell | ? |
| 14:45.09 | Qwell | sruffell: meetme/dahdi and FDs |
| 14:45.25 | sruffell | FDs : File Descriptors? |
| 14:45.28 | Qwell | yes |
| 14:45.36 | sruffell | hmmâ¦that doesn't sound like anything I would have fixed. |
| 14:45.54 | Qwell | something with pseudo channels. oej posted more context on -dev |
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| 15:10.02 | *** topic/#asterisk-dev is Asterisk Development Discussion -=- http://www.asterisk.org/developers -=- Tier 2 and 3.14159265 support is in #asterisk -=- Astricon 2011 in Denver, Colorado: AstriDevCon on October 24. Be there! |
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| 18:21.21 | irroot | tip for reviewboard it fires ajax popup on each automerge not a big thing but if any one is intrested .... |
| 18:39.20 | kpfleming | what does that mean? |
| 18:40.59 | irroot | kpfleming when i made a commit of a rb link it marked it submited and a small "updated" pop up poped up when automerge ran to notify that it had changed |
| 18:41.27 | kpfleming | i don't see how that is related to automerge at all, to be honest |
| 18:41.42 | kpfleming | but the marking of the review as submitted is done by a post-commit hook script on the subversion server |
| 18:41.50 | irroot | it happened a couple times at the same time auto merge ran |
| 18:42.11 | irroot | so each "commit" from automerge trigered this |
| 18:42.17 | kpfleming | i suppose it's possible that the automerge commits are also firing the post-commit hook script, so yeah, that could happen |
| 18:42.21 | kpfleming | right |
| 18:42.31 | kpfleming | the hook script should probably ignore automerge commits |
| 18:43.01 | irroot | indeed not a big issue at just something i noticed |
| 18:58.22 | irroot | mnicholson ping thx for the review its done added some docs changed ERROR to WARNING |
| 18:58.40 | mnicholson | irroot, np |
| 19:01.04 | Marquis42 | Is there information yet about when (time) and where (exact room) AstriDevCon is going to be? |
| 19:01.27 | kpfleming | 9AM on monday, no room info yet |
| 19:02.26 | Marquis42 | That's a start at least. Thanks Kevin. Need to know when to wake up on Monday. :) |
| 19:02.35 | kpfleming | we' |
| 19:02.36 | kpfleming | doh |
| 19:02.49 | kpfleming | we're arriving on sunday evening... we can get together for breakfast before the devcon on monday |
| 19:03.33 | Marquis42 | That would be cool. Are there suggestions on where yet, or are you just throwing that out now? |
| 19:03.40 | kpfleming | just an idea |
| 19:03.48 | kpfleming | i'll probably post something on the -dev list on sunday |
| 19:03.59 | Marquis42 | Sorry to be a pest. I'm out tomorrow and not really 'connected' until I get into Colorado on Sunday evening. |
| 19:04.06 | Marquis42 | OK, that works. I'll have e-mail at least. |
| 19:31.51 | irroot | appologies reptools was not installed on the backup im using now installed reptools before backing up |
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| 19:32.09 | irroot | ill spend 5 minutes in the stupid corner |
| 19:32.50 | irroot | points at mnicholson you need to update and come join me :P |
| 19:33.19 | mnicholson | eh? what happened? |
| 19:33.58 | irroot | reptools is out of date |
| 19:34.13 | Qwell | uh oh, better update before rmudgett sees |
| 19:34.41 | mnicholson | oh with the merge ordering stuff? *shrug* |
| 19:34.46 | irroot | the merge message has changed i updated mine but not on backup im working off |
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| 20:06.32 | Kobaz | do de do |
| 20:06.47 | Kobaz | JunK-Y: poke |
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| 21:23.43 | JunK-Y | Kobaz: sup? |
| 21:26.18 | Kobaz | hey |
| 21:26.23 | Kobaz | when you getting into denver? |
| 21:26.42 | jsmith | is sad to miss AstriCon for the first time |
| 21:26.58 | kpfleming | i have asked twice to have a mailing list setup for astricon attendees to be able to talk with each other and coordinate travel schedules and such... but it has not appeared. sorry. |
| 21:26.59 | Kobaz | aw |
| 21:27.11 | Kobaz | aw |
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| 21:29.24 | Kobaz | it's gonna snow on thursday apparently |
| 21:29.33 | Kobaz | er i mean wednesday |
| 21:29.52 | pabelanger | jsmith: still time! |
| 21:30.17 | pabelanger | you and russellb should get RH to hook something up! |
| 21:33.10 | jsmith | pabelanger: Been there, tried that -- no more travel money this quarter in my department, and I'm up to my eyeballs with trying to get Fedora 16 out the door |
| 21:37.47 | mjordan | wow, 73 to 37 in two days. Yikes. |
| 21:39.07 | Kobaz | hah |
| 21:39.15 | Kobaz | and then back to 60 and sunny |
| 21:40.12 | kpfleming | welcome to the high desert |
| 21:40.30 | jsmith | Yeah, no kidding |
| 21:40.43 | pabelanger | So I'd still like to get a key signing event going at Astricon, but unsure how to spread the information. Per kpfleming previous statement about the missing astricon mailing list, would just creating a wiki page on wiki.asterisk.org work? |
| 21:41.03 | kpfleming | well, signups are hard to handle |
| 21:41.27 | kpfleming | but i suppose if you created a page and people just commented in order to sign up, that would work |
| 21:41.46 | pabelanger | Ya, that would work too |
| 21:41.55 | Kobaz | so ast devcon starts 8am |
| 21:42.37 | kpfleming | 9AM, i believe |
| 21:45.21 | Kobaz | Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, it's time once again for |
| 21:45.21 | Kobaz | AstriDevCon. Held this year in conjunction with the AstriCon conference in |
| 21:45.21 | Kobaz | Denver, AstriDevCon will take place on Monday October 24th and on Friday |
| 21:45.21 | Kobaz | October 28th, from 8am until 5pm. The Monday session will be dedicated to |
| 21:45.21 | Kobaz | discussion about Asterisk, and the Friday session will cover Asterisk SCF. |
| 21:45.42 | kpfleming | check the online schedule... i think we changed it to 9AM |
| 21:45.46 | kpfleming | if not.. i'm wrong :-) |
| 21:46.08 | Kobaz | that would be good |
| 21:46.12 | Kobaz | i don't wanna wake up early for nothing |
| 21:46.56 | Kobaz | there's no devcon info on the schedule http://www.astricon.net/datesAndTimestemp.aspx |
| 21:47.45 | kpfleming | http://www.astricon.net/conferenceProgram.aspx |
| 21:47.51 | kpfleming | but that says 8AM too :-) |
| 21:52.24 | Kobaz | ah |
| 21:57.26 | pabelanger | Okay, I just created this page about the key signing: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/~pabelanger/Astricon+2011+Key+signing+event |
| 21:57.29 | pabelanger | comment welcome |
| 21:58.16 | kpfleming | send an email to the various lists as well |
| 21:58.56 | pabelanger | kpfleming: ack'd |
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