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| 06:11.55 | jmls | morning all |
| 06:13.45 | jmls | is there any way of keeping the temporary files created in /tmp when processing realtime static stuff (the /var/tmp/exec.131295677994259.-1210684528 etc) |
| 06:14.06 | jmls | there's an error somehwere in my system, but I don't know which file is causing the grief ;) |
| 06:48.10 | jmls | urk |
| 06:48.14 | jmls | ok, here's a thing |
| 06:48.39 | jmls | if I am waiting for a curl response, and the user hangs up the call, the h extension is not run |
| 06:48.44 | jmls | that can't be right |
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| 06:56.47 | schmidts | good morning |
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| 07:25.22 | oej | Morning jmls |
| 07:30.03 | jmls | oej: morning |
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| 08:29.46 | schmidts | morning oej ;) |
| 08:30.34 | oej | Morning schmidts |
| 08:31.03 | irroot | morning folks back now ... been away from bandwidth |
| 08:31.19 | oej | Mee to. Had holiday and tried hard to stay off line. |
| 08:33.31 | irroot | tuesday was womens day here in ZA took long weekend |
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| 09:54.10 | tzafrir | wonders how people respond to such a review request |
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| 13:09.13 | oej | I would love to go back to the old policy of introducing new committers to the -dev mailing list. I don't know which ones that are associated with Digium and their role today? Feels bad. |
| 13:14.05 | kpfleming | agreed |
| 13:14.25 | kpfleming | i will put that on my list to address this week, and get the community updated |
| 13:14.59 | oej | thanks |
| 13:17.35 | tzafrir | Speaking of commiters: who (what?) is bebuild? |
| 13:18.12 | kpfleming | it's a cert we use for automated build processes... leifmadsen is starting to update our asterisk releaser virtual machine |
| 13:19.12 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: and ya, that PDF builder script is using wget |
| 13:19.44 | leifmadsen | maybe russellb imported a cert or something at some point? |
| 13:20.10 | kpfleming | it shouldn't be necessary... the SSL cert on wiki.asterisk.org should be trusted by most client side tools |
| 13:20.14 | kpfleming | what distro is on that VM? |
| 13:20.21 | tzafrir | What email can I write it under (for git-svn import)? |
| 13:20.30 | kpfleming | tzafrir: asteriskteam@digium.com |
| 13:20.36 | tzafrir | ok |
| 13:20.52 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: ubuntu 8.04 |
| 13:21.02 | kpfleming | ok, that's fairly old |
| 13:21.06 | leifmadsen | agreed |
| 13:21.17 | leifmadsen | I wasn't fixing what wasn't broke before :) |
| 13:21.17 | kpfleming | you might need to update the 'ssl certificates' package. i don't remember the name. |
| 13:21.21 | kpfleming | sure |
| 13:22.02 | kpfleming | tzafrir: do you know what the name of the debian package is that holds CA certs to be installed system-wide for tools like wget to use? |
| 13:22.15 | tzafrir | cacerts ? |
| 13:22.33 | leifmadsen | ya |
| 13:22.37 | tzafrir | ca-certificates |
| 13:22.45 | leifmadsen | just did a search for ssl | grep cert and found it |
| 13:23.39 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: does that system have the hardy-updates and hardy-backports repos enabled? it probably needs to. |
| 13:23.52 | leifmadsen | I will check |
| 13:24.12 | kpfleming | if you add those and update the packages, i bet that will cure it |
| 13:24.14 | leifmadsen | updates are definitely enabled as that's where the updates are happening |
| 13:24.19 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: how much?! |
| 13:24.35 | kpfleming | one banana muffin |
| 13:24.40 | leifmadsen | I accept that bet |
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| 13:29.03 | kpfleming | oej: actually, i think what i'm going to do is require all committers to create a personal space on wiki.asterisk.org with some information about themselves... and then we'll point people to that via a post on the mailing list |
| 13:30.54 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: and if there is a COMMITTERS doc or something that could be updated to? |
| 13:30.58 | leifmadsen | if there is a point in that |
| 13:31.36 | kpfleming | i don't know that we have one of those... or where it would live if we did |
| 13:32.46 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: how about a wiki page of "committers" that points to the personal spaces? |
| 13:32.49 | leifmadsen | that would make it easy to update |
| 13:33.12 | leifmadsen | some sort of directory would be nice |
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| 13:33.40 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: huh, even after adding backports, updating ca-certificates again, and running the script still causes the same issues |
| 13:33.57 | leifmadsen | I mean I could add --no-check-certificate, but.... ? |
| 13:34.03 | oej | Something lives in the repotools |
| 13:34.30 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: there is a directory on the wiki already |
| 13:34.36 | leifmadsen | even better |
| 13:34.37 | kpfleming | only people who are developers have personal spaces |
| 13:34.43 | leifmadsen | oh gotcha |
| 13:34.45 | oej | But please make sure you introduce every new committer on the -dev list as they are signed on |
| 13:34.49 | kpfleming | yep |
| 13:35.09 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: well... i can't help right now, have to go take a shower and head to the office. we can pick this up later. |
| 13:35.19 | leifmadsen | sure thing, I'll google around |
| 13:46.04 | tzafrir | leifmadsen, you can always add the certificates "manually" to /etc/ssl |
| 13:47.16 | leifmadsen | tzafrir: ya that would be ideal I think -- any idea how I might go about that? |
| 13:47.28 | leifmadsen | is really confused why it worked for one user but not this one on that same box |
| 13:50.10 | bklang | leifmadsen: assuming you can find a copy of the certificate, just drop it into /etc/ssl/certs and then create a symlink like this: |
| 13:50.11 | leifmadsen | tzafrir: might have found a page |
| 13:50.39 | bklang | ln -s new-ca-cert.pem `openssl x509 -in new-ca-cert.pem -noout -hash`.0 |
| 13:51.12 | leifmadsen | bklang: cool thanks, I'll just have to wait for kpfleming to return to help out with the path to the cert |
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| 14:33.03 | irroot | tzafrir mmm seems 2.5.0 breaks sangoma :P |
| 14:33.21 | russellb | oh well |
| 14:33.57 | tzafrir | irroot, This does not surprise me |
| 14:33.59 | irroot | http://pastebin.com/Rmu1EAKt tzafrir |
| 14:34.22 | irroot | DAHDI_MAINT_LOOPSTOP error: 'struct dahdi_span' has no member named 'maintq' |
| 14:34.44 | irroot | ill have a look at it further maybe latter |
| 14:35.08 | irroot | have a couple of inherited customers with sangoma and 2 sites needed 1/2 height pci cards |
| 14:35.27 | irroot | russellb greets |
| 14:37.56 | tzafrir | DAHDI_MAINT_LOOPSTOP was removed in r9515 |
| 14:39.09 | irroot | ill check it out and fiddle it thx for the heads up |
| 14:39.51 | irroot | the sangoma folk never respond to things submiting a update /request is pointless |
| 14:39.55 | tzafrir | maintq was removed at the commit before it |
| 14:47.19 | anonymouz666 | speaking of dahdi_maint I would like to understand, some day, the meaning of 'dahdi_maint -s <spannum>' |
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| 15:13.42 | jimbo_uk | did this fella ever get implemented into asterisk proper? https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/466/ |
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| 15:32.27 | opticron | anonymouz666, are you talking about the error counters? |
| 15:33.39 | opticron | they only apply to T1/E1 lines and probably shouldn't be displayed for other span types |
| 15:34.01 | anonymouz666 | I know |
| 15:34.44 | anonymouz666 | do you know their meaning? |
| 15:35.23 | opticron | some of them, yes, but it's mostly to do with line-level signaling |
| 15:38.40 | anonymouz666 | this is useful mainly when you are talking with the telco, but would be better, if it is documented in some place. |
| 15:46.15 | malcolmd | jimbo_uk: negative |
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| 16:08.17 | oej | kpfleming: Can you check that I have a wiki page? I believe I do, but it's best if someone else checks as well. |
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| 16:09.02 | kpfleming | oej: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/~oej |
| 16:09.13 | kpfleming | and yes, i see it even when i'm not logged in |
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| 16:09.30 | oej | Ok then. I have followed your instructions :-) |
| 16:09.35 | kpfleming | indeed |
| 16:09.41 | kpfleming | although you did not mention lutefisk |
| 16:09.48 | kpfleming | even though it's norwegian |
| 16:09.48 | oej | That's NORWEGIAN. |
| 16:09.59 | oej | I need to send some to you?. |
| 16:10.06 | oej | You should really get SURSTRÖMMING. |
| 16:10.14 | oej | That's the rotten herring. |
| 16:10.20 | kpfleming | yuck |
| 16:10.31 | oej | Yes, yuck. That's a proper description. |
| 16:10.46 | kpfleming | it was interesting listening to Harald Alvestrand at the IETF meetings... he sounds a bit like you, even though he's NORWEGIAN. |
| 16:11.22 | oej | oh. I have spent far too much time in Norway then. I need to adjust. |
| 16:11.24 | oej | ha ha. |
| 16:12.40 | jimbo_uk | any chance they might make it in? 64 is a pretty small limit for pickup groups |
| 16:13.06 | kpfleming | it is? really? |
| 16:13.18 | kpfleming | how many users are being served off of that system? |
| 16:13.24 | oej | We need named pickup groups. |
| 16:13.29 | jimbo_uk | yes we do! |
| 16:13.36 | kpfleming | sure... has someone provided a patch for it? |
| 16:13.37 | oej | I have many customers that have worked around the 64 bits. They are just to few. |
| 16:13.39 | jimbo_uk | c. 200 now but growing fast |
| 16:13.41 | oej | And 128 won't do either. |
| 16:13.50 | jimbo_uk | nope 1024 min |
| 16:14.02 | oej | But so far no customer has been willing to pay for code, so we still ahve the 64... |
| 16:14.10 | jimbo_uk | really hahaha |
| 16:14.19 | jimbo_uk | i though asterisk was community driven! |
| 16:14.22 | oej | You get the bits you pay for :-) |
| 16:14.35 | jimbo_uk | that the cards then! |
| 16:14.35 | oej | Community has to survive and get food on the table now and then as well. |
| 16:14.41 | kpfleming | that's right. |
| 16:14.52 | jimbo_uk | ok, so this fella already produced a patch. |
| 16:15.03 | jimbo_uk | what's the fee to get something commited? |
| 16:15.13 | kpfleming | there is no such thing |
| 16:15.15 | oej | You can't bribe code into the source base |
| 16:15.32 | jimbo_uk | now i'm confused! |
| 16:15.35 | oej | But if you want to get help in promoting and fixing, paying helps to get attention. |
| 16:15.50 | jimbo_uk | ..even more so. |
| 16:15.57 | oej | I meant, if you have a problem and can't produce a patch yourself, you can wait for someone else or pay for a coder. |
| 16:16.11 | jimbo_uk | ok, but someone else already happened :-) |
| 16:16.24 | oej | If you have produced a patch and submitted it, resource are required to take it through review and commit. |
| 16:16.45 | jimbo_uk | https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/466 |
| 16:16.52 | oej | We have a large backlog and everyone is expecting Digium to pay all developers to bring the code into the code base... |
| 16:17.36 | oej | I don't think that patch is good. We can't have compile-time settings like that. We should make it fully dynamic. |
| 16:17.49 | jimbo_uk | ok |
| 16:17.50 | oej | A long time ago we did not have the CPU power we have today, so we needed bitmasks and stuff. |
| 16:18.02 | oej | But that's only MY personal feeling. It's not an official judgement. |
| 16:18.04 | jimbo_uk | yeah, like in the 90's!! |
| 16:18.08 | jimbo_uk | lol |
| 16:18.25 | kpfleming | i agree; if we're going to rework it, might as well do it the 'right' way. |
| 16:18.30 | oej | The good old days, right. When a 486 was a cool CPU. Even if you did not have the math processor. |
| 16:18.39 | jimbo_uk | yep. i agree |
| 16:18.48 | jimbo_uk | mind you i like my android. |
| 16:19.02 | jimbo_uk | mobiles in the 90's were a bit of a fuck around. |
| 16:19.04 | oej | Dual core in the pocket? |
| 16:19.11 | jimbo_uk | size of a breeze block. |
| 16:19.19 | jimbo_uk | indeed |
| 16:19.23 | oej | Nice chatting with you guys, gotta go. See you! |
| 16:19.35 | jimbo_uk | see ya. |
| 16:19.56 | jimbo_uk | ok, so do i need to get a petition together for a better pickup group function? |
| 16:19.59 | jimbo_uk | :-) |
| 16:20.43 | jimbo_uk | or maybe there's a developer on here I can pay to make it happen? |
| 16:21.18 | kpfleming | post on asterisk-biz that you are interesting in funding someone to work on it |
| 16:21.27 | kpfleming | s/interesting/interested/ |
| 16:27.44 | jimbo_uk | cool |
| 16:27.46 | jimbo_uk | will do. |
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| 16:38.34 | jmls | guess that parking has some issues in 1.8 ;) |
| 16:42.57 | jimbo_uk | so assuming i get someone to 'make it' then is it a problem getting it into the code base going forwards? |
| 16:46.26 | tzafrir | hmm... I can't seem to "create a personal workspace" or edit my profile or whatever on the wiki (there seems to be some sort of "submit" button missing in those forms |
| 16:50.47 | tzafrir | That said, as long as the licensing issues won't get resolved, I don't see myself editing the wiki |
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| 17:52.12 | kpfleming | jimbo_uk: once the feature patch has been written and posted, it will be reviewed and handled according to our normal processes for such things. if a community developer wants to handle it, that's one way it would go in... otherwise it would wait for a member of the digium team to have time to do it. with that said, though, a functioning patch for a feature that many people want will get much higher priority |
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| 20:15.31 | Corydon76-home | kpfleming: I'm assuming there should be a button on the createpersonalspace page that actually creates it? |
| 20:16.00 | kpfleming | yes... multiple people have reported a problem with this, i'll be looking at it shortly |
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| 20:47.57 | ArtemMakhutov | Hello everyone, I want to add PDU encoding and decoding in chan_datacard. Can someone point me to a good lib that can be used for it? |
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| 21:12.43 | Corydon76-home | pabelanger: ping |
| 21:12.52 | pabelanger | Corydon76-home: pong |
| 21:13.59 | Corydon76-home | pabelanger: were your issues with the DESTDIR patch addressed when otherwiseguy verified the functionality, or are there additional problems that need to be addressed? |
| 21:14.34 | Corydon76-home | Didn't see the comments on RB, so I wondered if you had replied to the list instead of on RB |
| 21:15.08 | pabelanger | Corydon76-home: I don't believe so. my issues are with make samples |
| 21:15.17 | Corydon76-home | Ah, okay |
| 21:15.36 | pabelanger | everything up to that seemed to work well |
| 21:15.41 | Corydon76-home | I'll look at addressing those issues this evening, after work, then |
| 21:15.46 | pabelanger | k |
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| 23:41.00 | Corydon76-home | pabelanger: RB updated with the fix for 'make samples' |