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| 06:24.20 | kaii | putnopvut, mvanbaak: btw you can find the source of that PHP to C++ "compiler" here: https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/wiki/ |
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| 06:41.51 | schmidts | good morning |
| 06:42.25 | kaii | morning |
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| 13:16.22 | Kobaz | so bush won from hacking apparently |
| 13:16.52 | Kobaz | er, wrong window |
| 13:17.00 | Kobaz | but, if interested: http://www.truth-out.org/new-court-filing-reveals-how-2004-ohio-presidential-election-was-hacked/1311603015 |
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| 13:34.46 | kaii | Kobaz: did anybody in the US believe that was a fair election? at least here in europe nobody could believe that. |
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| 13:36.11 | Kobaz | especially with the florida shenanagins |
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| 15:00.26 | Corydon76-home | Kobaz: please, keep the political discussions out of here. While there are plenty who share your views (including me), it's way off topic for this channel |
| 15:04.21 | Kobaz | yeah |
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| 15:21.03 | WIMPy | I've got a problem with channel variables I set via setvar in sip.conf. |
| 15:21.09 | WIMPy | They only seem to exist AFTER a dialplan match has been found, but not WHILE searching for a match. I.e. they aren't available for use in an lswitch statement. |
| 15:21.10 | WIMPy | Is that intended behaviour or could it be viewed as some kind of bug? Does someone with knowledge in that area think it could be changed with a reasonable amount of effort? |
| 15:22.10 | kpfleming | the channel is not created unless a dialplan match is found |
| 15:22.17 | kpfleming | so there's no place to put them before that happens |
| 15:22.25 | WIMPy | Shit |
| 15:22.39 | WIMPy | That would have made things a lot easier. |
| 15:23.02 | kpfleming | but it would expose Asterisk to serious denial of service attacks |
| 15:23.11 | Corydon76-home | WIMPy: can you throw them into a database and use func_odbc, instead? |
| 15:23.37 | Corydon76-home | or use astdb? |
| 15:23.38 | kpfleming | Corydon76-home: he wouldn't have any identifier to use to query them for 'this call' ... |
| 15:23.58 | WIMPy | Corydon76-home: I can't do anything WHILE it tries to match. |
| 15:24.04 | Corydon76-home | kpfleming: the extension is usually enough |
| 15:24.32 | WIMPy | I'm actually extremely happy I found the solution with a loopback lswitch :-) |
| 15:25.11 | kpfleming | Corydon76-home: how could that be true? if two SIP peers try to call the same extension at the same time, they'd have different values for those variables |
| 15:25.42 | Corydon76-home | If they try to call the same extension, the extension would be the same |
| 15:25.53 | Corydon76-home | What am I missing? |
| 15:26.03 | WIMPy | kpfleming: What kind of DOS where you thinking about? |
| 15:26.08 | kpfleming | but he is setting variables on each SIP peer, presumbaly with different values he's like to inspect |
| 15:26.33 | Corydon76-home | I'm not suggesting that he grab the information he wants out of the sip.conf settings |
| 15:26.40 | kpfleming | WIMPy: if you call ast_channel_alloc() before even attempting to determine if there is a dialplan match, then a flurry of INVITEs to non-existent extensions becomes much more expensive to handle |
| 15:26.46 | WIMPy | Yes, I tried to set the area code of the peer that way. |
| 15:26.47 | Corydon76-home | I'm suggesting he stick the same info in a database and query that |
| 15:26.59 | kpfleming | but that doesn't address his use case at all |
| 15:27.24 | Corydon76-home | Why not? |
| 15:27.34 | WIMPy | kpfleming: Yes, ok. |
| 15:27.43 | kpfleming | because he doesn't know how to construct the query to include the identity of the SIP peer making the call |
| 15:27.59 | kpfleming | s/know how/have a way/ |
| 15:28.10 | WIMPy | The idea of the whole thing it to be able to change the extension WHILE dialing. |
| 15:28.14 | Corydon76-home | He doesn't need it, because that association can be made in the database by using the extension |
| 15:28.37 | Corydon76-home | Or a partial extension |
| 15:28.40 | kpfleming | clearly we are talking about completely different things then |
| 15:29.06 | kpfleming | if the inforation is associated with the extension *only*, there's no need for a database at all, the information can just be put into the diaplan itself |
| 15:29.13 | WIMPy | Yes. It's about incomplete extensions. So no dialplan application usage possible. |
| 15:29.44 | Corydon76-home | but switch allows you to use the _incomplete_ extension in a dialplan function |
| 15:30.18 | kpfleming | you could try having chan_sip allocate the channel before locating the target extension and see how it performs |
| 15:31.12 | Corydon76-home | There's potential for making it work, although it's a bit hairy. |
| 15:31.18 | WIMPy | I guess that would mean any channel. |
| 15:31.32 | kpfleming | right |
| 15:32.02 | kpfleming | but the underlying issue is that prior to the channel being created, the only 'context' associated with that call request lives in the channel driver itself |
| 15:32.39 | WIMPy | Ja, I see. |
| 15:32.45 | kpfleming | but i'll troll a little bit... in Asterisk SCF this will be easy :-) |
| 15:33.10 | WIMPy | In practice I ca live with creating some different contexts, but that would have been a nice, scalable solution. |
| 15:33.25 | Corydon76-home | I'm starting to think Asterisk SCF and Perl 6 have a lot in common. :-P |
| 15:33.57 | dms | whaaaaaat |
| 15:34.12 | kpfleming | Corydon76-home: harsh |
| 15:34.16 | dms | big time |
| 15:34.40 | Corydon76-home | Hey, I was a Perl programmer before I started working on Asterisk. How do you think I feel? |
| 15:35.06 | WIMPy | Thanks for the insights. |
| 15:35.06 | dms | I was a perl programmer before I started working on the Asterisk SCF project . . |
| 15:37.20 | Corydon76-home | Now I'm working on Ruby... a platform which is currently going through the same pain as the transition from Perl 4 to Perl 5 (Ruby 1.8 to 1.9). Why didn't the Ruby guys learn from this? |
| 15:38.53 | kpfleming | Corydon76-home: Python 2.x -> 3.0 as well |
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| 15:40.05 | Corydon76-home | kpfleming: I dealt with a fatal incompatibility between Python 2.4 and 2.6, with a nagios plugin. I eventually rewrote the plugin in C. |
| 15:40.38 | Corydon76-home | How's that for harsh? |
| 15:40.42 | kpfleming | pretty bad |
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| 16:18.20 | jmls | Corydon76-home: hey, I'm trying to learn ruby |
| 16:18.37 | jmls | and rails ;( |
| 16:19.00 | Corydon76-home | jmls: I'm so sorry |
| 16:21.30 | jmls | heh |
| 16:21.45 | jmls | ruby ? or rails ? |
| 16:22.05 | jmls | bleeding edge rails, at that (3.1) |
| 16:24.46 | Corydon76-home | jmls: Both |
| 16:25.35 | jmls | oh, I quite like ruby |
| 16:25.58 | jmls | is obviously strange |
| 16:26.20 | Qwell | You used to be cool, man. |
| 16:26.54 | Corydon76-home | Just yesterday, I found myself considering that Perl may actually be easier to write and understand |
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| 16:28.11 | jmls | now I'm just some balding freak, right ? |
| 16:28.12 | kpfleming | i've always found perl fairly easy to write... it's the reading days/weeks/months later that is hard |
| 16:29.56 | Corydon76-home | jmls: you're a Franciscan monk? |
| 16:31.41 | jmls | yes, my son. |
| 16:31.47 | jmls | it's for the beer ... |
| 16:32.41 | kpfleming | apparently quebec city is a very good place to be if you are a fan of locally brewed beers |
| 16:34.29 | Kobaz | ah |
| 16:38.48 | Corydon76-home | Too bad jmls is a ruddy Brit |
| 16:42.17 | jmls | oohhhh that's not nice. I'm English ;) |
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| 20:36.31 | seanbright | sruffell: if i made a patch for the tc4xxp driver so that it could report in-use channels, would you review it for me? |
| 20:36.50 | sruffell | oh yeah, that. |
| 20:36.51 | sruffell | : |
| 20:36.59 | sruffell | :/ but yes, I would be happy to. |
| 20:37.36 | seanbright | nice |
| 20:37.38 | russellb | seanbright: if you write your patch in a git clone, you'll get bonus points from sruffell |
| 20:37.45 | seanbright | what's git? |
| 20:37.47 | sruffell | did you just see that wctc4xxp commit? is that what got you thinking about that? |
| 20:37.49 | russellb | yes |
| 20:37.53 | sruffell | lol |
| 20:37.53 | seanbright | sruffell: yessir |
| 20:38.10 | sruffell | <3 git |
| 20:38.25 | seanbright | what do i do? git clone git:///something |
| 20:38.26 | seanbright | ? |
| 20:38.43 | Qwell | I'm about to push the Asterisk git conversion somewhere. Reviews be damned! |
| 20:38.51 | russellb | https://github.com/sruffell/dahdi-linux |
| 20:38.51 | Qwell | and by about to, I mean not. |
| 20:38.53 | sruffell | If you want, you can git clone git://github.com/sruffell/dahdi-linux and send me a patch you make off of master there. |
| 20:39.06 | russellb | git send-email! |
| 20:39.08 | seanbright | sounds good |
| 20:39.32 | russellb | Qwell: ship it |
| 20:39.42 | Qwell | don't tempt me |
| 20:39.54 | seanbright | crap... now i *have* to learn git? |
| 20:40.04 | Kobaz | i'm already working with git inhouse |
| 20:40.07 | russellb | it's good for your health |
| 20:40.17 | seanbright | i still barely can stumble my way through subversion |
| 20:41.09 | russellb | github has decent help pages |
| 20:41.18 | russellb | and there's lots of other free docs out there |
| 20:42.07 | Kobaz | anyone bored and want to stare at some code? |
| 20:42.17 | russellb | nope! |
| 20:42.30 | seanbright | free docs... pfft |
| 20:42.31 | Kobaz | mm, that didn't go as planned |
| 20:42.51 | russellb | seanbright: the only docs you should by are ones for sale written by me |
| 20:43.05 | russellb | buy. |
| 20:43.31 | seanbright | the first book my name appears in |
| 20:43.34 | seanbright | and i don't own it |
| 20:43.35 | seanbright | heh |
| 20:43.48 | russellb | loser! |
| 20:44.13 | Qwell | seanbright: Mine only appears in v2 :( |
| 20:44.37 | seanbright | sruffell: fwiw, me bringing up that patch again was my attempt to gently nudge you to do it for me |
| 20:44.55 | seanbright | now you're making me work for a living |
| 20:44.57 | russellb | Qwell: http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/asterisk-DeviceConfig.html |
| 20:45.01 | sruffell | lol |
| 20:45.09 | Qwell | oh right, I forgot about that part |
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