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| 07:26.54 | schmidts | good morning |
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| 07:57.13 | tzafrir | hi |
| 08:01.07 | schmidts | Hi |
| 08:13.21 | wedhorn | hey, what's with creating 1.10, russellb hasn't gone through skinny SLA yet... |
| 08:54.25 | schmidts | wedhorn AFAIK they only started the branch for it, there isnt even a RC1 |
| 08:54.31 | schmidts | or a beta ;) |
| 08:54.50 | irroot | trunk is in a sortta alpha state |
| 08:55.00 | irroot | where projects are been wound up |
| 08:55.12 | irroot | and inclusions / exclusions are been made |
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| 09:01.27 | wedhorn | yeah yeah. Just having a dig at russell, he said he'd review my code before 1.10 was branched - well that's my memory of it anyway;) |
| 09:02.15 | irroot | lol |
| 09:02.31 | irroot | is off to office having trouble walking today |
| 09:03.13 | irroot | having a stupid sip negotiation error for something i want to work that probbably should not work but wont know till i get it too work if that makes sense :P |
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| 09:41.33 | mickecarlsson | Testing 1.10 with sqlite3: |
| 09:41.54 | mickecarlsson | Databaze grows extremely when running astdb test routine. |
| 09:42.16 | mickecarlsson | Database is locked at all time, no access with sqlite3 cli |
| 09:43.12 | mickecarlsson | .journal file was created during astdb test routine |
| 09:45.33 | mickecarlsson | Had to stop asterisk, use sqlite3 to vacuum the database, it went from 6 MB to 423 KB after perftest with astdb testroutine |
| 09:45.48 | mickecarlsson | .journal file was removed |
| 09:45.57 | mickecarlsson | Now, back to more testing' |
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| 13:32.17 | tzafrir_laptop | Again: is there actually a demand for a libilbc? It should not be a problem packaging it, I guess |
| 13:32.31 | tzafrir_laptop | (I suspect it won't be a moving target) |
| 13:33.39 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there any existing independent repo of it? |
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| 13:51.27 | malcolmd | i can't imagine any advantage of ilbc except its support in softclients. silk in asterisk 1.10 is going to remove any need for using ilbc as a trunking codec (unless you've got a provider that supports it?!?!) or you're in to packetcable |
| 13:53.10 | tzafrir_laptop | Obviously there's at least one (Artem) who is interested in having this code in Asterisk |
| 13:54.14 | malcolmd | yeah, but the response from one47 (i think that's who) is correct; the code that artem has created a patch for isn't the 3-clause-bsd-licensed webrtc ilbc codec. it's the old stuff. no way we can include that. |
| 13:54.51 | malcolmd | was there a discussion on the ietf codec wg list about ilbc? i might be mis-remembering, but i thought cullen claimed there was significant use of ilbc among the cisco customer base |
| 13:55.08 | malcolmd | that doesn't necessarily mean anything to the asterisk user base though |
| 13:56.12 | malcolmd | yes..here it was: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/codec/current/msg02511.html |
| 13:57.13 | tzafrir_laptop | Google published the code separately |
| 13:57.46 | tzafrir_laptop | Now, if there's a separate library, based on the code published by Google, would there be any problem using it? |
| 13:57.50 | malcolmd | correct; but they re-wrote it. it's not the same source as the older source |
| 13:58.15 | tzafrir_laptop | They actually rewrote it? |
| 13:58.35 | malcolmd | i didn't check all of the algorithms, but the function calls are all different |
| 13:58.44 | tzafrir_laptop | ok |
| 13:59.29 | tzafrir_laptop | So I guess that their code/interface should be used, to be on the safe side |
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| 14:00.15 | malcolmd | yup, i think it would be bad form to use the older code...even though there's a reasonable expectation that google wouldn't get nasty about it, a reasonable expectation isn't enough to clear the legal team |
| 14:03.37 | tzafrir_laptop | it's actually a very nice jantorial task |
| 14:07.10 | malcolmd | won't get done, probably, before 1.10 goes to its first beta, but it'd be great if someone picked it up prior to release. |
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| 14:38.16 | philippel_mac | question wrt to 1.10 and new "features" - I would like to add a patch to function MEETME_INFO() to get the recording filename and format of an existing conference. |
| 14:38.30 | philippel_mac | is it too late if I submit that patch and get it up on the review board to get it in? |
| 14:38.44 | kpfleming | yes. the feature list for 1.10 was set (on the asterisk-dev mailing list) weeks ago. |
| 14:38.46 | philippel_mac | it's fairly straight forward info out of the conf record |
| 14:39.12 | philippel_mac | understand - but it's a fairly useful and very straight forward addition |
| 14:39.22 | kpfleming | sure. that doesn't change the policy though. |
| 14:39.46 | philippel_mac | I understand that as well, but I also understand that there have often been exceptions made to the policy |
| 14:39.55 | kpfleming | not 'often', no. |
| 14:40.12 | kpfleming | the ones i am aware were for features that were necessary to resolve a security issue or a serious regression. |
| 14:40.53 | philippel_mac | o, - well I haven't tracked the details recently so you would obviously be much more informed there |
| 14:41.24 | philippel_mac | I guess if I go with the patch,it's another one we will carry on the FreePBX distro ourselves for another year or two then |
| 14:41.39 | kpfleming | yes, that's how it is normally done |
| 14:41.47 | kpfleming | just like for any other software package :-) |
| 14:41.50 | philippel_mac | any ideas otherwise to easily get the recording file name of a conference that is already started |
| 14:42.35 | philippel_mac | I have no problem doing that, I just know that some of you guys were hoping to have minimal deviations from core asterisk code on our distro, which I can understand |
| 14:43.54 | kpfleming | i have no idea, no |
| 14:44.33 | philippel_mac | k, well MEETME_INFO() is the obvious place to get such info so I'll go with the patch and get it into the ticket system so it can at least be reviewed for trunk |
| 14:44.50 | kpfleming | yep, good plan |
| 14:45.33 | philippel_mac | btw - question though I haven't followed it too closely |
| 14:45.43 | philippel_mac | I understand AstDB is going to sqlite, is that official? |
| 14:46.17 | kpfleming | yes, it's already in 1.10 |
| 14:46.28 | kpfleming | take a look at the CHANGES file rather than asking here, you'll learn a lot :-) |
| 14:46.46 | philippel_mac | so the real question, any particular reason it wasn't just tied into odbc or realtime? |
| 14:47.08 | kpfleming | that's very heavyweight for a key/value pair database |
| 14:47.20 | kpfleming | plus that adds a lot of external configuration requirements for every user |
| 14:48.22 | philippel_mac | I would 100% agree on the typical installation. It does facilitate HA scenarios though if you want to do clustering, but I'm very glad that it is at least in sqlite |
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| 15:03.02 | kpfleming | philippel_mac: well, oej has a patchset to make AstDB use realtime, but as far as i know he's never proposed it for inclusion |
| 15:05.51 | russellb | i think the last word was "it'd be nice if someone finished this and worked on getting it merged for me" |
| 15:05.57 | russellb | or that was my impression |
| 15:06.35 | russellb | and the patch is probably pretty broken after twilson's sqlite3 conversion |
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| 15:26.26 | philippel_mac | kpfleming: , russellb the applerasin stuff is actually pretty stable and oej has been running it in production (olbeit on 1.4) in Portugal on that big project for years |
| 15:26.52 | philippel_mac | we've done a bunch of testing, there were some very minor issues but overall it looked pretty decent |
| 15:27.39 | kpfleming | i wasn't talking about stability |
| 15:27.45 | kpfleming | i assumed it was |
| 15:29.01 | russellb | ASTERISK-16401 |
| 15:29.15 | kpfleming | no CaptainPants? |
| 15:29.15 | russellb | no CaptainPants, lame |
| 15:30.19 | russellb | tries to will CaptainPants into existance |
| 15:30.26 | leifmadsen | russellb: don't try, just do |
| 15:30.30 | russellb | anyway, issue says: |
| 15:30.38 | leifmadsen | s/issue/survey/ |
| 15:30.45 | russellb | This branch needs some assistance through code review and also addition of some missing features in the CLI commands for managing astdb, something that was out of scope for this project. |
| 15:30.46 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: silly |
| 15:30.50 | russellb | I think this would be a good addition for 1.8, but it will need assistance from other developers to get through the process. |
| 15:31.11 | kpfleming | and that note was seen by almost nobody, i suspect. too bad. |
| 15:31.13 | russellb | he said he wanted someone else to finish it, nobody has stepped up to do that |
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| 15:33.30 | russellb | ASTERISK-16401 |
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| 15:33.37 | russellb | I hate you, bot |
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| 15:33.54 | kpfleming | CaptainPants: singe russell |
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| 15:34.14 | russellb | it's crashing when it tries to parse the WSDL from JIRA for some reason |
| 15:36.56 | kpfleming | we replaced JIRA with a small shell script, that's why |
| 15:37.46 | russellb | figures |
| 15:37.49 | russellb | oh well |
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| 16:24.40 | JunK-Y | long life to analog gateways which are crashing! |
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| 19:40.13 | acidfoo | hey, I'd like to know if the conf call will be recorded ? |
| 19:40.18 | acidfoo | thanks |
| 19:58.54 | pabelanger | acidfoo: the asterisk dev one? Don't think so |
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| 20:40.02 | BMJ | Asterisk Developer Conference Call in 20 minutes. Info herE: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Developer+Call+-+07142011+-+1700+EST |
| 20:41.09 | kpfleming | aren't the calls usually recorded and the recordings posted on the wiki? |
| 20:42.37 | wedhorn | russellb: I notice the developer meeting is talking about the 1.10 beta - any progress on skinny SLA? |
| 20:43.04 | russellb | to be honest, i forgot to go back, I'm very sorry. If it works for you and it's contained to chan_skinny, go for it |
| 20:43.09 | russellb | feel free to merge to the 1.10 branch, too |
| 20:43.30 | wedhorn | okay, when is the beta release planned? |
| 20:43.55 | russellb | very likely tomorrow, if not, early next week |
| 20:44.05 | russellb | it can sneak into beta2, as well, that's no problem |
| 20:44.32 | leifmadsen | beta either tomorrow or tuesday |
| 20:44.33 | wedhorn | okay, I'll see what I can do |
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| 20:45.11 | wedhorn | tomorrow being tonight I guess, because it's already tomorrow here ;) |
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| 20:45.18 | ban_me | hi |
| 20:46.05 | leifmadsen | o/ |
| 20:46.59 | chazzam | there goes leifmadsen chopping heads with his samurai sword |
| 20:54.25 | ban_me | later haters |
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| 21:17.58 | tzafrir_laptop | How do I mark a bug as "regression"? Specifically https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-18086 |
| 21:18.13 | Kobaz | ah i missing something if is the add comment button gone on jira |
| 21:18.57 | kpfleming | Kobaz: are you logged in? |
| 21:19.11 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 21:19.24 | Kobaz | ASTERISK-17917? |
| 21:19.25 | tzafrir_laptop | The reporter says it's a regression, and I tend to believe him, but I don't have the hardware to reproduce it |
| 21:19.30 | Kobaz | ASTERISK-17917 |
| 21:19.34 | Kobaz | i can't add a comment |
| 21:20.23 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: can you take a look at that? ^^^ |
| 21:21.05 | Kobaz | i can do "enter feedback" |
| 21:21.23 | kpfleming | oh... someone has requested feedback. are you the assignee? |
| 21:21.30 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 21:21.47 | kpfleming | then that's why you can't enter a random comment... you need to provide feedback :-) |
| 21:22.30 | Kobaz | the add feedback dialogue didn't make sense to me |
| 21:22.37 | Kobaz | I clicked on 'send back' |
| 21:22.42 | Kobaz | and i put in a comment, and that worked |
| 21:22.54 | kpfleming | what didn't make sense? |
| 21:23.12 | Kobaz | there was two radio boxes, you had to pick one |
| 21:23.18 | Kobaz | one option was like, send back to developer |
| 21:23.19 | kpfleming | buttons, not boxes |
| 21:23.28 | Kobaz | er yeah radio buttons |
| 21:23.32 | kpfleming | no, one option says you are done entering feedback, the other says you aren't done |
| 21:23.37 | kpfleming | it's fairly obvious to most people :-) |
| 21:23.51 | Kobaz | heh |
| 21:24.05 | Kobaz | well, next time I'll do it that way |
| 21:24.10 | kpfleming | right |
| 21:24.25 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: sure -- I just don't think we have "regression" anymore |
| 21:24.26 | Kobaz | It didn't make sense to me that you could enter text but not be done |
| 21:24.40 | Kobaz | so I wasn't sure what to do, since it forced you to pick one of the two options |
| 21:24.54 | kpfleming | the idea is that sometimes when feedback is requested, the reporter can't provide it immediately, but they want to acknowledge the request.. so they 'enter feedback', but *don't* send it back to the developer, because it isn't ready to go back yet |
| 21:24.57 | leifmadsen | oh wait, I think I commented on the wrong thing |
| 21:25.01 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: no worries |
| 21:25.10 | leifmadsen | let me know if you still need info or changes from me |
| 21:25.12 | leifmadsen | I was compiling! |
| 21:25.15 | kpfleming | Kobaz: did neither of those options make sense to you? |
| 21:25.41 | Kobaz | it was just strange, to see done or not done, with the feedback dialogue |
| 21:25.52 | Kobaz | I didn't know what it was going to do... so I canceled and picked something different |
| 21:26.16 | Kobaz | I'm still learning jira, there's a bunch of stuff |
| 21:27.12 | kpfleming | indeed |
| 21:29.00 | Kobaz | the "i'm done" i thought might close the issue or something |
| 21:29.09 | Kobaz | heh, i dunno. I didn't want to break anything |
| 21:29.40 | kpfleming | just slow down and read what it says, and don't assume anything. we've tried to set it up so that it will help you do the right thing :-) |
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| 21:55.18 | JunK-Y | russellb: is there any chance to get the cli filtering merged into 1.10 ? Ive no trouble making sure there's no troubles involved with that. |
| 21:56.02 | russellb | well the patch probably is out of date, and I think there were still more changes that needed to be made |
| 21:56.38 | russellb | would have to look at the review request |
| 22:02.37 | JunK-Y | i'll update the patch to make sure its still working with the trunk |
| 22:17.24 | wedhorn | just checked out a copy of 1.10, and it seems that app_meetme is not compiled. Me or something else? |
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| 22:33.08 | pabelanger | wedhorn: enable it in menuselect? |
| 22:33.29 | blitzrage | wedhorn: sounds like a missing depedency |
| 22:33.45 | russellb | blitzrage: or was it your support level stuff? |
| 22:33.57 | pabelanger | that is what I'm thinking |
| 22:35.16 | kpfleming | it appears to be... i just 'svn up' my 1.10 checkout and ran 'make', and menuselect is complaining it won't build codec_resample |
| 22:35.57 | kpfleming | it had previously built just fine |
| 22:38.55 | kpfleming | well... maybe i'm wrong |
| 22:39.13 | kpfleming | i don't have libresample installed any longer, so it shouldn't have been built before |
| 22:39.25 | kpfleming | so that's confusing, since nothing changed but menuselect complained |
| 22:45.02 | pabelanger | app_meetme.c Support Level: deprecated, Replaced by: app_confbridge |
| 22:46.39 | russellb | yeah, meetme should be core instead of deprecated if deprecated stuff isn't going to build by default |
| 22:46.46 | russellb | since meetme is never going away |
| 22:48.22 | kpfleming | well... does that mean the support obligations for it change though? |
| 22:48.56 | russellb | oh wait, saying it's deprecated is separate from if it builds by default |
| 22:49.09 | russellb | we could just remove defaultenabled if we felt that like was going to break too many people's systems |
| 22:49.17 | russellb | <defaultenabled>no</... that is |
| 22:49.26 | russellb | dinner time. |
| 22:49.43 | russellb | kpfleming: group going to Tim's if you're interested ... nowish |
| 22:49.50 | russellb | & |
| 22:55.22 | wedhorn | enabling app_meetme in menuselect works |
| 22:55.58 | wedhorn | a query though, while the conf stuff in meetme may be deprecated, how about SLA, and if so, what's the replacement? |
| 22:56.10 | wedhorn | I'm off to work |
| 23:04.45 | kpfleming | russellb: thanks, will have to pass |
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