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| 12:14.42 | kpfleming | irroot: ping |
| 12:15.04 | irroot | yo captian having a holiday ?? |
| 12:15.10 | kpfleming | yep! |
| 12:15.16 | irroot | what up and have a good one |
| 12:15.23 | kpfleming | how is this WaitForFAX thing different from just using 'faxdetect'? |
| 12:15.51 | irroot | ah 1 the channel fax bits are background and are awesome most the time |
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| 12:16.16 | irroot | problems come in in places where you dont want the fax to be answered by the endpoint |
| 12:16.42 | irroot | if i fax a fax terminal that needs to answer and process the fax on a FXS i have a problem |
| 12:16.48 | irroot | if faxdetect = yes |
| 12:17.04 | kpfleming | you wouldn't have faxdetect set on that port |
| 12:17.10 | irroot | when it answers it goes to the fax extension and routes it back to a now engaged port |
| 12:17.27 | irroot | but i may need faxdetect on the inbound E1 |
| 12:17.34 | kpfleming | right |
| 12:18.00 | irroot | so the options i have is have complicated dialplans with no fax exten in for some lines |
| 12:18.13 | irroot | or answer the call first and run Wait(x) |
| 12:18.15 | kpfleming | so what you need then is to be able to disable faxdetect on a channel when you know you don't need it for a specific call |
| 12:18.18 | irroot | this works fine |
| 12:18.49 | kpfleming | if you answer the call, and it's not a FAX, then what are you going to do with the call? |
| 12:18.51 | irroot | yes have a DAHDI(faxdetect)=no would work |
| 12:19.04 | irroot | but needs to be for all techs |
| 12:19.08 | kpfleming | no... CHANNEL(faxdetect)... other channels support it too |
| 12:19.16 | kpfleming | well, chan_sip does anyway |
| 12:19.36 | irroot | there is OOH323() in the queue for chan_ooh323 |
| 12:20.04 | kpfleming | that should not get merged... there's no reason for a channel tech specific function |
| 12:20.13 | irroot | what i have been playing round with [functional] |
| 12:20.38 | irroot | is to squelch out the DSP fax detect and determine noise = human |
| 12:20.44 | kpfleming | anyway... i was just curious. most people just let the call head down its normal voice path, and then let faxdetect redirect it if a CNG is detected |
| 12:21.04 | kpfleming | that's how our PBX works, and it works quite well |
| 12:21.06 | kpfleming | (Switchvox) |
| 12:21.43 | kpfleming | so i'd say that adding the ability to disable faxdetect on a per-call basis would probably cover all the remaining cases i can think of |
| 12:22.17 | irroot | there various ways of doing it the Wait(x) option is what has worked best here so i extended it to a app |
| 12:22.50 | irroot | ill make sure chan_misdn / ooh323 work with CHANNEL |
| 12:23.09 | kpfleming | well, just keep in mind that you won't always get CNG from a calling FAX terminal at this point... V.34 fax terminals don't start out sending CNG |
| 12:23.17 | irroot | should be easy to implement and scrap the OOH323 bits |
| 12:23.17 | kpfleming | if V.34 mode is enabled, anyway |
| 12:23.36 | kpfleming | it sucks for discriminating incoming FAX calls, but that's how it is |
| 12:23.57 | irroot | btw you have some cleanups in DSP in a review 1304 |
| 12:24.09 | kpfleming | i don't... i don't review asterisk stuff much any more :-) |
| 12:24.47 | irroot | true ... but meant that in a more generic way |
| 12:25.12 | kpfleming | sure |
| 12:26.09 | kpfleming | what sort of 'tones' are you sending with WaitFAX? |
| 12:26.22 | irroot | WaitFax does not send at all |
| 12:26.31 | irroot | it is a copy paste wait |
| 12:26.46 | kpfleming | i was just looking at your code, it has the option of sending tones |
| 12:27.10 | irroot | has a dsp struct that listens for CNG + squelch then what is left i run ast_dsp_noise |
| 12:27.26 | irroot | ah that is for what indicate.conf |
| 12:27.36 | irroot | ast_playtones |
| 12:27.50 | irroot | Answer + Play ring + listen for fax |
| 12:27.55 | kpfleming | oh |
| 12:28.11 | irroot | the noise detect is not been commited yet |
| 12:28.19 | kpfleming | and start billing the caller even though the call hasn't really been answered yet :-) |
| 12:28.36 | irroot | that is a downside yes ... |
| 12:29.40 | irroot | its a dialplan option i use and call "Early fax detect" |
| 12:29.53 | irroot | the other problem with shared voice / fax lines |
| 12:30.26 | irroot | is if the line never answers the fax will not be handled and a RNA of 30+ secs could cause fax to time out |
| 12:30.40 | kpfleming | right |
| 12:30.49 | irroot | why do we hate faxes again ?? |
| 12:30.57 | kpfleming | some people do |
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| 12:31.42 | irroot | and if i do use faxdetect -> mail ie Re...FAX then people complain of droped calls |
| 12:33.10 | kpfleming | well... i can imagine a change to the channel drivers so that when faxdetect triggers, the 'abandoned' channel is actually sent into the dialplan, so you can play a message like "This call was redirected to the FAX system." and then hang up |
| 12:34.19 | irroot | yeah indeed i put 100T Z$ on it that someone will call and say there is some "american" voice telling me the call was a fax |
| 12:34.52 | kpfleming | lol |
| 12:37.18 | irroot | you have no idea spent couple days working on a ACD report for a customer to analyse and break down service level by hour / day SQL is a friend ... they had me explaining my method |
| 12:37.34 | irroot | cause they would not belive there staff were that bad |
| 12:38.50 | irroot | kept looping the calls back into the old system after 1min so there SL was almost 100% even though it took 10+ minutes to get to a agent |
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| 12:41.44 | irroot | liefmadsen lo there happy holidays and all |
| 12:42.02 | leifmadsen | leif :) |
| 12:42.09 | kpfleming | he had his holiday on friday |
| 12:42.12 | leifmadsen | thanks :) my holiday is over now |
| 12:42.22 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: get back to holidays! |
| 12:42.26 | irroot | ah canada ?? |
| 12:42.29 | leifmadsen | of course |
| 12:43.01 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: when you have a brain the size of a planet, you're always working |
| 12:43.03 | irroot | come to south africa not in july only month in the year with no holiday |
| 12:44.03 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: ya but I don't understand why you're not on holidays :) |
| 12:44.35 | kpfleming | i am! sitting on the sofa reading the newspaper, about to head to lowe's to get some replacement drill bits so i can keep working on rebuilding fence gates |
| 12:44.44 | kpfleming | but i always get online in the morning and see what's up with the world |
| 12:44.45 | leifmadsen | nice, sounds productive! |
| 12:45.00 | leifmadsen | ya, my internet was down when I woke up and I have no cell phone, so I was totally without communications |
| 12:45.12 | leifmadsen | thought I might have to pull a twilson |
| 12:45.23 | kpfleming | file does that too |
| 12:45.38 | file | moo |
| 12:45.42 | kpfleming | i did play two rounds of EA Sports PGA 2010 golf yesterday |
| 12:45.45 | leifmadsen | I have to go to the bank today, so I might scout out some shops to see what all is available for that |
| 12:45.58 | leifmadsen | nice :) I played 18 holes of real golf on saturday |
| 12:46.01 | irroot | got rid of my cell :P its a blessing they passed a law R[egistration and] I[nterception of] C[omunications] A[ct] |
| 12:46.14 | leifmadsen | found out that walking 18 holes in 30C weather isn't as easy as one might think |
| 12:46.34 | kpfleming | no, no it's not |
| 12:46.41 | irroot | RICA is a complete mess your address / id and sim are on file without protections |
| 12:46.43 | kpfleming | especially not carrying a bag of clubs |
| 12:46.56 | kpfleming | it's pretty painless on the Wii though |
| 12:46.58 | irroot | hehe |
| 12:47.16 | leifmadsen | kpfleming: indeed it is :) |
| 12:47.19 | kpfleming | plus i still have it in 'beginner' mode where i get to use the aiming circle and don't have to worry about slice/fade |
| 12:47.28 | kpfleming | so generally i play 18 holes in around 48 strokes |
| 12:47.31 | leifmadsen | ah I have to worry about my slice all the time |
| 12:47.37 | irroot | http://baldy.posterous.com/male-sensitivity <- how to get clubs carried |
| 12:51.54 | kpfleming | ok boys... have an excellent day. i expect to see at least 20 asterisk bugs resolved today :-) |
| 12:52.11 | irroot | yeah im outta here soon its 3pm |
| 12:52.34 | irroot | does it count if we cause the bugs first ?? |
| 12:52.44 | kpfleming | probably not |
| 12:53.17 | irroot | mmm that was my best stratergy |
| 12:54.10 | irroot | office is most productive ... 2 of the guys have got new droid phones bringing it to 4 now with droid discovered strip poker... |
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