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| 00:52.54 | Deeewayne | Corydon76-dig, thanks! |
| 00:55.40 | Corydon76-dig | Deeewayne: yw |
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| 06:23.35 | diegomad | hi, I would like to implement functionality to the parser, that recognizes include, exec when you save the configuration files, is a good idea? |
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| 12:11.19 | snuff-home | mornin kp |
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| 13:10.07 | pabelanger | morning all |
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| 13:31.16 | snuff-home | pabelanger: with ur comments about ppl not attaching required stuff.. probably worth just mentioning exactly what they are missing than a big general spiel.. |
| 13:38.04 | pabelanger | snuff-home: too bloated? |
| 13:54.24 | snuff-home | yer.. i think.. but leif might have some input ;) |
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| 14:14.39 | leifmadsen | TheDavidFactor: np! |
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| 14:49.01 | ctooley | leifmadsen, Thank goodness for Edmonton. :-) |
| 14:49.15 | leifmadsen | haha, why is that? I haven't looked at the stats in a bit |
| 14:50.26 | ctooley | Because they have a worse record than Toronto. I am honestly shocked that a city of that size, in Canada, can't put forth the resources to put a winning team on the ice. |
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| 14:56.59 | leifmadsen | Toronto has had some very bad management over the last few years |
| 14:57.11 | leifmadsen | we're hoping the new management is going to fix it within the next 3-4 years |
| 14:57.20 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: very occasionally, cities actually put their citizens first, instead of catering to sports teams |
| 14:57.27 | leifmadsen | he has shipped every existing player, except for one, out of the city this year |
| 14:57.39 | leifmadsen | ctooley: eep -- I thought we were in -doc :) |
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| 14:57.48 | ctooley | Oops me too |
| 14:58.00 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: that's not the case in this instance :) |
| 14:58.20 | leifmadsen | has nothing to do with the City of Toronto -- the sports teams here are very much self sufficient |
| 14:58.33 | leifmadsen | it helps when you have the highest tickets prices in the league and you sell out every night |
| 14:58.49 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: The team built its own arena? |
| 14:59.16 | leifmadsen | Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment is very rich -- they probably spent most of the money to build the ACC |
| 14:59.43 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, unfortunately, in Nashville, the taxpayer got to foot the bill. |
| 14:59.44 | leifmadsen | The city might have put in some money so it'd have access to do events there, but I doubt it was a significant amount |
| 14:59.56 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, I wasn't suggesting that the Municipality step in, I was suggesting that the collective of the people usually do. As happened here in Nashville. (And yes, the arena downtown IS a major boon to the city in terms of attracting people to Broadway which is one of the largest generators of sales tax for Nashville). |
| 15:00.03 | leifmadsen | that's because Nashville is a weak hockey area, and Gary Bettman is forcing hockey into the south |
| 15:00.41 | putnopvut | Interesting. An svn update of 1.4 is giving me conflicts in menuselect. This makes no sense, given that I have not touched menuselect code. |
| 15:00.48 | leifmadsen | odd... |
| 15:00.49 | ctooley | "The taxpayer" didn't foot anywhere near as much of the bill as it's made out to be, "the taxpayer" is largely sales tax revenue from tourists on Broadway. |
| 15:00.49 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: Pffft. The fact that Nashville is the country music capital is what attracts people to Broadway |
| 15:01.09 | ctooley | moves to -doc |
| 15:01.18 | ctooley | in the interest of the rest of the developers. |
| 15:01.20 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: How many shops downtown are dedicated to hockey vs country music? |
| 15:02.15 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, see above |
| 15:03.11 | putnopvut | Hmm, reverting the menuselect directory and re-updating seems to have gotten rid of the conflicts. I guess I must have changed my menuselect code without remembering it. Weird. |
| 15:03.45 | putnopvut | wait, nope. They're still there. |
| 15:04.12 | putnopvut | Okay, now they're really gone. |
| 15:04.26 | Corydon76-dig | ghost in the machine |
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| 16:14.32 | kazaa_lite_ | hi all.... which video codecs are supported by asterisk? I could see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+video but it gives me an impression that it is mainly regarding 1.4 and not 1.6 |
| 16:16.39 | kpfleming | that list has not changed |
| 16:17.29 | kazaa_lite_ | and it says video transcoding is not implemented.. does it mean my caller and callee need to be using same video format |
| 16:17.31 | kazaa_lite_ | ? |
| 16:17.41 | kpfleming | umm.. yeah. that's what transcoding means. |
| 16:18.02 | kpfleming | these are not -dev questions |
| 16:18.50 | kazaa_lite_ | yes.... but usually i get much better answers here:( but I agree, you are right |
| 16:19.11 | seanbright | well that shows a clear lack of respect. thanks! |
| 16:19.16 | seanbright | heh |
| 16:19.51 | Corydon76-dig | makes a note to start giving crappy answers here |
| 16:20.09 | pabelanger | lol |
| 16:22.53 | kazaa_lite_ | :( don't be harsh to me:'( 'I am sorry':) |
| 16:23.20 | kpfleming | when you know the rules, being sorry is pointless :-) |
| 16:24.13 | kazaa_lite_ | damn...... i have no right to live:'( I am going to jungles. |
| 16:24.17 | leifmadsen | especially when the rules are in the topic :) |
| 16:24.23 | TheDavidFactor | it's easier to ask forgiveness then permission |
| 16:24.47 | kazaa_lite_ | thats why i said 'i am sorry' |
| 16:26.31 | kazaa_lite_ | ok... no I have implementation/development related question... |
| 16:26.48 | Qwell | TheDavidFactor: it's easier to disown somebody who goes against your wishes than somebody who just asks if they can ;0 |
| 16:27.05 | kazaa_lite_ | have you guys tried implementing video transcoding in Asterisk? |
| 16:27.27 | kazaa_lite_ | if yes, then why it was not made part of official release? If no, why so? |
| 16:27.32 | TheDavidFactor | Qwell: true :-) |
| 16:27.38 | Qwell | kazaa_lite_: video transcoding is probably the least trivial thing to do... |
| 16:27.45 | kazaa_lite_ | i mean soon we will need this thing |
| 16:27.49 | Qwell | plus, the resources it consumes are massive |
| 16:27.58 | file | and licensing. |
| 16:28.01 | Qwell | not to mention the 50,000 patents on the matter |
| 16:28.32 | kazaa_lite_ | but we are getting much much better hardware with every passing day |
| 16:28.34 | leifmadsen | and the kittens that would have to be killed. |
| 16:29.02 | kazaa_lite_ | so very soon we will not be facing this issue of 'resource expensive' thing |
| 16:29.14 | kpfleming | not true at all |
| 16:29.32 | kpfleming | even the most powerful DSPs to do video transcoding are currently limited to something like 15-20 channels of 720 line video |
| 16:29.46 | kpfleming | for very small picture sizes, yes, a general purpose CPU can do it |
| 16:32.42 | kazaa_lite_ | ahhh... right |
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| 16:33.08 | seanbright | is that why my tivo can only record 2 shows at once? |
| 16:33.21 | Qwell | seanbright: tuners aren't cheap |
| 16:33.33 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: $50 a pop, sure they are |
| 16:33.34 | seanbright | true |
| 16:33.44 | seanbright | my cablecard supports 4 tuners |
| 16:33.48 | seanbright | sucks to only be able to use 2 |
| 16:33.57 | Qwell | seanbright: mythtv :P |
| 16:33.59 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: so get a second Tivo |
| 16:34.27 | Corydon76-dig | yeah, or mythtv with onboard encoder |
| 16:36.25 | atis_work | just throw your tuner/tv through the window.. you won't have such problems :p |
| 16:36.52 | seanbright | you can use cable cards with mythtv? |
| 16:37.34 | seanbright | There is no Cable Card hardware for MythTV to use, so getting to |
| 16:37.35 | seanbright | Comcast's HD and premium channels is not possible with a tuner card. |
| 16:37.39 | seanbright | annnnnnd there goes that idea |
| 16:38.00 | seanbright | seanbright: #mythtv |
| 16:38.02 | seanbright | seanbright: sorry |
| 16:38.43 | leifmadsen | o.O |
| 16:39.28 | kpfleming | seanbright: there is, actually... an ATI HD tuner that accepts cable cards, but i think they stopped selling it and it was only available with select PCs that had Windows Media Center stuff preloaded |
| 16:42.39 | seanbright | ah well |
| 16:42.41 | seanbright | i like my tivo |
| 16:43.23 | kpfleming | i like mine (two of them) |
| 16:43.56 | seanbright | have you look at the premiere yet? |
| 16:44.00 | kpfleming | nope |
| 16:44.07 | kpfleming | happy with the HDs i have |
| 16:44.11 | seanbright | yeah |
| 16:44.12 | kpfleming | wait... S3s |
| 16:44.21 | seanbright | apparently the new interface is built in flash |
| 16:46.21 | kpfleming | so it will crash a lot then |
| 16:51.35 | file | kpfleming: nah, it'll just restart flash hourly to cut down on the number of unexpected crashes |
| 16:52.48 | kpfleming | that means they've had to port the flash player to their MIPS CPUs... i bet that was fuin |
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| 19:37.22 | diegomad | hi, I would like to add new functionality to the parser of the dialplan, when saving, to know where are the include files and exec, and not to keep everything in one file, is a good idea? |
| 19:38.37 | kpfleming | what versions of asterisk have you tried? i believe that's already been done |
| 19:41.51 | diegomad | on trunk :S |
| 19:46.27 | diegomad | I was reviewing the code (pbx/pbx_config.c), and I have not been implemented, I'm wrong? |
| 19:50.02 | kpfleming | no, just my memory is wring |
| 19:50.04 | kpfleming | or wrong |
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| 19:52.47 | Corydon76-dig | kpfleming: you're probably thinking of the saving method in main/config.c |
| 19:53.18 | Corydon76-dig | and saving is possible in the original files, as long as #exec is never encountered |
| 19:53.38 | Corydon76-dig | The distinct danger comes into play when a file is included more than once |
| 19:54.36 | Corydon76-dig | Murf addressed it by ensuring that when a file is included more than once, it saves a new file for each occurrence |
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| 19:56.52 | diegomad | and whether each line is related to a file? |
| 19:57.16 | Corydon76-dig | diegomad: it's saved in the ast_config structure |
| 19:57.57 | Corydon76-dig | The dialplan doesn't retain that information currently, as it's not stored in that structure past load time |
| 19:58.46 | Corydon76-dig | but the best way for you to save it would be to convert the dialplan back into ast_config structure, then use the builtin method for saving the text file |
| 19:59.47 | Corydon76-dig | and you could probably use some of the newest shortcuts to reduce the overall size |
| 20:00.45 | Corydon76-dig | Converting continuous priorities back into 'n', for example, and using the 'same' keyword for extensions |
| 20:00.46 | diegomad | someone is doing? |
| 20:01.10 | Corydon76-dig | I doubt it. It's not a feature that people really use, I don't think |
| 20:02.06 | diegomad | Corydon76-dig, you think is useful for the project do? |
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| 20:18.23 | kpfleming | no, i doubt very many people edit their dialplan in asterisk and want to save it back out |
| 20:24.10 | leifmadsen | ya, it's always been something that existed, but was never recommended |
| 20:24.24 | leifmadsen | not sure if this was changed or not, but when you'd save the dialplan, you'd lose all your comments |
| 20:50.54 | Corydon76-dig | leifmadsen: No, that's not changed. There's just a lot of stuff that we don't preserve in the dialplan |
| 20:51.26 | leifmadsen | right, which is what I suspected, and is a good reason why people don't edit and save their dialplan from asterisk directly |
| 20:52.19 | Corydon76-dig | The only reason I could see for saving, anyway, is if you added extensions on the fly |
| 21:15.01 | hardwire | ponders a good way to add a predictable Diversion sip header when sip_sipredirect is called. |
| 21:15.46 | hardwire | It seems as though I just need to access the original extension or peername and use that in the Diversion header. |
| 21:21.39 | kpfleming | isn't this already done in asterisk trunk? trunk has wide support for diversion info (both in and out, over SIP and ISDN) already |
| 21:24.04 | hardwire | kpfleming: I've got no problem checking.. one sec |
| 21:25.51 | hardwire | kpfleming: woot. |
| 21:25.58 | kpfleming | indeed |
| 21:26.09 | hardwire | now verizon can stop bitching. |
| 21:26.11 | kpfleming | thank putnopvut for that, he did nearly all of that work |
| 21:26.19 | putnopvut | What'd I do? |
| 21:26.30 | kpfleming | diversion and connected party stuff |
| 21:26.33 | hardwire | lots of changes to redirect/transfer |
| 21:26.38 | putnopvut | Oh that. |
| 21:27.12 | hardwire | ducks and then says he'll have to backport some of those changes. |
| 21:27.39 | putnopvut | ducks and punches hardwire |
| 21:27.44 | hardwire | oww my head! |
| 21:28.00 | kpfleming | hardwire: you forgot to bob and weave |
| 21:28.39 | hardwire | kpfleming: I'm just humoring putnopvut .. I'm like a billion pounds and hard headed. |
| 21:28.42 | hardwire | hehe |
| 21:29.10 | putnopvut | a billion?! whoa |
| 21:29.19 | hardwire | well it's in trunk.. didn't make it to 1.2.7 rc |
| 21:29.24 | hardwire | err.. 1.6.27 |
| 21:29.31 | hardwire | rubs his eyes |
| 21:29.34 | putnopvut | lol, definitely not in 1.2.7 |
| 21:30.01 | kpfleming | it won't be in any 1.6.x release |
| 21:30.06 | kpfleming | trunk will be 1.8 |
| 21:30.15 | hardwire | I wouldn't mind using trunk for a bit on some other machines. whats g.729 binary compat like? |
| 21:30.16 | leifmadsen | if you're lucky |
| 21:32.23 | hardwire | adds a super trivial patch to the heap and smirks |
| 21:32.49 | hardwire | I forgot I ever signed the license agreement |
| 21:36.25 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:36.32 | hardwire | I should peek at the trunk dundi code. |
| 21:36.38 | hardwire | grabs popcorn |
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| 22:14.36 | hardwire | Corydon76-dig: meh.. I was wondering what was after the dot in uniqueid.. thanks |
| 22:14.57 | Corydon76-dig | A monotonically incrementing integer |
| 22:16.29 | Corydon76-dig | It happens to be the number of channels created since the last restart |
| 22:17.23 | hardwire | ok.. I'll look it up in a bit since I'm also curious about the timestamp in it |
| 22:18.11 | Corydon76-dig | We are very careful about adding builtin variables at this stage... usually it will only be status variables or specially named variables so that they do not conflict with real user variables |
| 22:18.43 | Corydon76-dig | Dialplan functions are generally preferred for system information now |
| 22:19.01 | hardwire | as long as its accessable which it was in this case |
| 22:19.25 | hardwire | ah.. uniqueint |
| 22:24.53 | hardwire | hehe.. I really like reading some of the code in * |
| 22:25.15 | hardwire | I've always liked the word "Atomics" ever since I watched Dune. |
| 22:25.40 | Qwell | hardwire: I've learned a lot from Asterisk source. Like which airlines to avoid. |
| 22:26.16 | hardwire | You confuse me. |
| 22:26.28 | seanbright | or how to determine silliness based on continent |
| 22:26.48 | seanbright | hardwire: there is a comment somewhere about how much delta sucks |
| 22:26.51 | seanbright | in the source |
| 22:30.27 | hardwire | strange |
| 22:34.07 | hardwire | right now I'm using this snippit: http://hardwire.pastey.net/135053 to distribute calls based on dundi matches. Has anybody encountered a patch to dundi to honor equal-weight as a round robin? Then I could just pass everything to the dundi switch. |
| 22:36.52 | hardwire | I understand that could be difficult to implement unless you sort first then use uniqueint as an offset or store a hash based on the servers/weights that reply and increment it's reference count. |
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