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| 07:51.53 | wedhorn | russellb: ping |
| 08:01.47 | russellb | hi! |
| 08:02.34 | wedhorn | how's things, just wondering if you had any input to my softhangup post on dev |
| 08:03.06 | russellb | I'm sure I will have feedback. The timing has just been rough ... I have been out of the office traveling for 1.5 weeks now |
| 08:03.12 | russellb | I will respond ASAP |
| 08:03.18 | russellb | as that is an important topic for me |
| 08:03.30 | wedhorn | no rush, just wanted to confirm there was more feedback coming |
| 08:04.01 | wedhorn | I won't be in a position to do much on it for a while, but don't want it to die either |
| 08:04.16 | russellb | nods |
| 08:08.40 | kpfleming | russellb: power still open? |
| 08:09.18 | kpfleming | well... never mind. my battery will last plenty long enough. |
| 08:10.36 | russellb | kpfleming: yes it is |
| 08:11.03 | russellb | "if you don't know how to find your zone number, you are an idiot and you should not be flying" |
| 08:12.54 | wedhorn | ? |
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| 08:14.25 | russellb | wedhorn: we're sitting in an airport, heh |
| 08:14.39 | russellb | and it is after midnight, so our sanity level is questionable |
| 08:15.03 | wedhorn | yeah, but I am/was a pilot and i've no idea what a zone number is? |
| 08:15.36 | kpfleming | delta airlines (and other airlines) board passengers in zones |
| 08:15.57 | kpfleming | starting with first class, then elite fliers, then the back of the plane forward |
| 08:16.06 | kpfleming | it makes the boarding process go faster |
| 08:16.46 | wedhorn | oh, ok, haven't heard that terminology, we down under just call by row numbers (which of course everyone just ignores) |
| 08:16.58 | kpfleming | yeah... this is an attempt to make it easier for people |
| 08:17.18 | wedhorn | sounds like it's working well ... |
| 08:17.37 | russellb | they were just making an announcement with details about how to find your zone number on the boarding pass |
| 08:17.43 | russellb | and I was looking for a reason to be bitter |
| 08:17.52 | russellb | :-) |
| 08:18.13 | wedhorn | gets like that with air travel |
| 08:19.06 | russellb | private pilot? |
| 08:19.19 | russellb | or a professional pilot that also happens to hack on open source telephony? :-) |
| 08:19.41 | wedhorn | commercial, and an accountant to boot |
| 08:20.48 | kpfleming | prefers to avoid booting |
| 08:21.20 | wedhorn | even accountants? :) |
| 08:22.09 | russellb | nice |
| 08:22.43 | russellb | I think you are the very first pilot accountant open source hacker that I have met. |
| 08:22.54 | russellb | "met" |
| 08:24.06 | wedhorn | funny thing, my boss is an ex pilot, accountant as well, not into open source though ... |
| 08:25.03 | russellb | you could work on that |
| 08:27.02 | kpfleming | we do know a few pilot open source hackers, though |
| 08:29.05 | russellb | true. |
| 08:29.36 | russellb | mark spencer, for example, is not also an accountant :-) |
| 08:38.10 | wedhorn | but is he a pilot hacker or a hacker pilot? |
| 08:40.23 | kpfleming | the latter... hacker before pilot |
| 08:45.09 | wedhorn | russellb: I thought after midnight at an airport qualified for beer and not continuous posting on -dev |
| 08:45.38 | russellb | oh, there is beer involved. |
| 08:45.46 | wedhorn | hehe |
| 08:46.47 | kpfleming | and he's committing code as well |
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| 08:47.23 | wedhorn | so who's got the job of proofing in the morning? |
| 08:48.45 | kpfleming | mobile phones that beep with every key press should not exist |
| 08:48.46 | russellb | the only stuff going into trunk is super trivial so it _should_ be safe :-) |
| 08:50.25 | wedhorn | yeah yeah, famous last words, like certain little patches that've made it into skinny and no one even checked if they compiled |
| 08:51.04 | kpfleming | cdr.c will no longer compile with -frequire-excess-whitespace |
| 08:52.05 | wedhorn | note to self, do not checkout for the next 12 hours ;) |
| 08:52.47 | russellb | kpfleming: crap, I didn't think of that |
| 08:53.10 | kpfleming | they should begin boarding soon, except the flight crew is not on the plane yet |
| 08:53.22 | russellb | yeah, it's about time to pack things up ... |
| 08:53.26 | kpfleming | or if they are, they are sleeping with the cockpit lights off |
| 08:53.35 | russellb | that would concern me a bit |
| 08:54.01 | wedhorn | better than sleeping in the air |
| 08:54.11 | russellb | agreed |
| 08:54.14 | kpfleming | although i might be looking at the wrong plane... this gate has two jetways |
| 08:54.33 | russellb | kpfleming: it appears that we have lost david? |
| 08:54.39 | kpfleming | no, he's next to me |
| 08:54.51 | russellb | laying down? |
| 08:55.18 | russellb | ah. |
| 08:55.29 | russellb | so, my lack of 1st class upgrade for this flight is sad. |
| 08:55.52 | wedhorn | how longs the flight? |
| 08:55.54 | russellb | the extra room for sleep would have been nice. |
| 08:55.59 | russellb | scheduled for 4 horus |
| 08:56.04 | wedhorn | ouch |
| 08:56.06 | kpfleming | so 3:30 in the air |
| 08:56.15 | russellb | not _too_ long, just prime sleep time is all |
| 08:56.21 | wedhorn | daylight when you arrive? |
| 08:56.27 | kpfleming | i did not realize seatguru was part of tripadvisor now |
| 08:56.31 | russellb | we'll have a 2 hour layover or so |
| 08:56.36 | kpfleming | yes, 7:30AM when we arrive |
| 08:56.41 | wedhorn | ouch |
| 08:56.51 | russellb | things people do for customers! |
| 08:56.54 | kpfleming | and then a 30 minutes hop from there to home |
| 08:57.22 | wedhorn | straight to work of course |
| 08:57.27 | russellb | right ;-) |
| 08:57.33 | russellb | and by work, I mean bed |
| 08:57.51 | russellb | with a backup plan of couch |
| 08:57.55 | kpfleming | i think our plane was parked at the wrong gate, and they are moving it now |
| 08:57.55 | wedhorn | but how about the customers |
| 08:58.06 | kpfleming | so... time to shut down |
| 08:58.18 | russellb | yup ... take it easy wedhorn ! |
| 08:58.26 | wedhorn | ok, hope you get some shut eye |
| 08:58.29 | russellb | thanks |
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| 14:41.21 | oej | Afternoon folks |
| 14:41.50 | kpfleming | no! 8:41AM |
| 14:50.08 | leifmadsen | 9:50am! |
| 14:52.20 | kpfleming | leifmadsen: this is not a contest. |
| 14:52.33 | leifmadsen | everything is a contest |
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| 14:56.18 | kpfleming | in that case, you are in 97th place |
| 14:56.29 | leifmadsen | no gold medal for me! |
| 14:58.32 | kpfleming | you get the green 'participation' medal |
| 14:58.39 | leifmadsen | that's worse than no medal at all! |
| 14:58.40 | kpfleming | gotta keep your self-esteem up |
| 14:58.47 | leifmadsen | I don't need any more than that |
| 14:58.53 | leifmadsen | s/than/of/ |
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| 15:48.18 | Kobaz | [Feb 26 10:48:06] ERROR[16416]: chan_dahdi.c:10594 dahdi_pri_error: XXX Missing handling for mandatory IE 12 (cs0, Connected Number) XXX |
| 15:48.23 | Kobaz | i keep geting those... over and over |
| 15:49.12 | Kobaz | and i'm seeing: |
| 15:49.13 | Kobaz | [Feb 26 08:42:54] VERBOSE[26402] logger.c: -- Moving call from channel 20 to channel 21 |
| 15:49.16 | Kobaz | [Feb 26 08:42:54] WARNING[26402] chan_dahdi.c: Can't fix up channel from 20 to 21 because 21 is already in use |
| 15:49.19 | Kobaz | in asterisk 1.6.0.22 |
| 15:49.22 | Kobaz | no idea what's going on |
| 15:50.19 | seanbright | welp... the asterisk project has finally made it |
| 15:50.31 | seanbright | dave chappell is posting to the -dev list |
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| 17:22.48 | seanbright | does dahdi require a c99 compiler? |
| 17:25.14 | seanbright | if so, you can just use stdbool.h instead of our own bool type |
| 17:26.26 | Kobaz | ? |
| 17:27.01 | seanbright | did you have a question? |
| 17:27.29 | Kobaz | me? |
| 17:27.44 | Kobaz | well before, i did... i pasted a weird dahdi message |
| 17:27.47 | seanbright | yes. you had said "?" |
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| 17:28.00 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 17:28.09 | Kobaz | you were talking about dahdi and c99, and bool types |
| 17:28.13 | Kobaz | but i didn't ask about bool types |
| 17:28.23 | seanbright | right. |
| 17:28.26 | seanbright | i wasn't talking to you. |
| 17:28.28 | Kobaz | heh |
| 17:29.18 | seanbright | i was following the svn-commit list and saw |
| 17:29.25 | seanbright | commit dahdi 8117 |
| 17:29.28 | MuffinMan | [8117] Committed by sruffell on 2010-02-26T16:40:40.238918Z: dahdi: Move the definition of bool from xdefs.h into include/dahdi/kernel.h |
| 17:29.28 | MuffinMan | .. |
| 17:29.28 | MuffinMan | ..I intend to use the bool definition in the wctdm24xxp driver and don't want to |
| 17:29.28 | MuffinMan | ..duplicate the definition. |
| 17:29.28 | MuffinMan | .. http://svn.digium.com/view/dahdi?view=rev&revision=8117 |
| 17:29.39 | Kobaz | ah |
| 17:30.21 | Kobaz | do you guys have pri unit testing? |
| 17:30.41 | Kobaz | like, is there a suite of stuff i can run, to make sure that the libpri handles everything it should without crashing |
| 17:30.52 | leifmadsen | I doubt it -- unit testing is pretty new |
| 17:31.11 | seanbright | and you're describing functional testing |
| 17:31.17 | seanbright | not unit testing |
| 17:31.18 | leifmadsen | right, which is even newer :) |
| 17:31.26 | Kobaz | either that or i would be interested in hooking up with someone who really knows the libpri stack, and dahdi stuff |
| 17:31.36 | Kobaz | i would hire someone to write test suites |
| 17:31.50 | Kobaz | this is getting crazy with all the bugs i keep finding... and i find them while in production, which is even worse |
| 17:32.03 | seanbright | patches are welcome |
| 17:32.16 | Kobaz | i don't have any experience with dahdi/pri |
| 17:32.22 | Kobaz | https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16913 |
| 17:32.33 | seanbright | sure you do |
| 17:32.42 | seanbright | you're finding bugs in production |
| 17:32.44 | Kobaz | well, not any of the code that handles it |
| 17:32.46 | seanbright | that sounds like experience |
| 17:32.46 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 17:33.16 | seanbright | that crash is happening in libpri |
| 17:33.23 | seanbright | you should file it against libpri instead of asterisk |
| 17:33.49 | Kobaz | who maintains it? |
| 17:34.04 | seanbright | we all do |
| 17:34.13 | seanbright | primarily someone who is not on IRC all that often |
| 17:34.19 | seanbright | because he has real work to do |
| 17:34.20 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:34.22 | Kobaz | hehe |
| 17:34.34 | Kobaz | well, i get bunches of help from irc, and i ahve real work to do as well |
| 17:35.10 | seanbright | do you know what version of libpri you are using? |
| 17:35.21 | Kobaz | lemme get it |
| 17:35.30 | Kobaz | i pasted the version info in the other bug report |
| 17:35.33 | Kobaz | i'll copy it over |
| 17:36.16 | Kobaz | 1.4.10.2 |
| 17:36.59 | Kobaz | i've had less problems with 1.4.7 |
| 17:37.08 | Kobaz | i might move this box back |
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| 17:39.04 | leifmadsen | does that issue need to get moved? |
| 17:39.26 | Kobaz | does libpri have a seperate bug tracker? |
| 17:39.33 | seanbright | i believe so. the crash is happening in libpri. |
| 17:39.46 | seanbright | Kobaz: look at the top right in the tracker. there is a project drop down. |
| 17:40.04 | Kobaz | oooh |
| 17:40.14 | leifmadsen | I just moved it |
| 17:40.24 | Kobaz | nice |
| 17:40.26 | Kobaz | thanks |
| 17:41.20 | Kobaz | i never noticed the project dropdown |
| 17:42.43 | Kobaz | the problem is, so much stuff is environmental |
| 17:43.07 | Kobaz | you can run tests for days covering your entire app in the lab... and then deploy it, and now you're at the mercy of the new environment |
| 17:43.29 | Kobaz | although, it would be useful to run the tests in the new environment before fully commiting |
| 17:47.56 | leifmadsen | Kobaz: agreed, so many times I've tested something a million ways to sunday, then I've deployed and a customer or user finds something I couldn't have possibly thought of :) |
| 17:48.02 | leifmadsen | (or something their environment introduces) |
| 17:48.18 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 17:49.11 | sruffell | seanbright: your right about the stdbool.h. GCC 3.4 is the oldest compiler we support (for 2.6.9 compatibility), and reverting that change and putting stdbool into wctdm24xxp/base.c still worked. |
| 17:49.34 | sruffell | xpp still needs the definition though due how they are using the type in a macro... |
| 17:51.01 | seanbright | gotcha |
| 17:51.05 | seanbright | cool. |
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| 18:33.27 | putnopvut | M16788 |
| 18:33.29 | MuffinMan | [acknowledged] [Asterisk] Applications/app_queue 0016788: [regression] Realtime agents Device state always Not in use reported by sum https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16788 |
| 18:34.20 | putnopvut | Based on what the reporter is saying in his last few comments, I think he's saying he made an error in his table and thus I should close the issue. Could I get a third party to read the comments and see if I am interpreting his comments correctly? |
| 18:35.42 | leifmadsen | checks |
| 18:36.16 | leifmadsen | putnopvut: I think he's saying the fact that things get screwed up by the null, that is the bug |
| 18:36.34 | leifmadsen | putnopvut: I think the latter part of your comment |
| 18:36.50 | leifmadsen | oh wait, not quite |
| 18:36.58 | leifmadsen | he's saying it being null causes asterisk to get confused (I guess) |
| 18:37.13 | Kobaz | it's a way of communication from app to app on the same server via a local system socket |
| 18:37.16 | Kobaz | er |
| 18:37.17 | Kobaz | wrong chan |
| 18:44.35 | Kobaz | do you guys know of any command line audio comparison tools... something like http://abx-comparator.berlios.de/ but non-gui |
| 18:45.02 | leifmadsen | Kobaz: yes, see AQuA |
| 18:45.28 | Kobaz | k |
| 18:45.45 | leifmadsen | Kobaz: http://www.sevana.fi/voice_quality_testing_measurement_analysis.php |
| 18:46.22 | Kobaz | heh, i searched for AQuA abx, and the first hit was aqua bound paddles |
| 18:46.34 | Kobaz | which are actually the same kayak paddles i use |
| 18:47.44 | leifmadsen | heh |
| 18:47.49 | leifmadsen | I want a kayak |
| 18:47.50 | leifmadsen | super fun |
| 18:48.46 | Kobaz | i got mine off rental from ems |
| 18:48.53 | Kobaz | it's in perfect condition and it was 50% off |
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| 20:46.17 | ariel_ | I feel I have a major issue with iax2. I have been testing with different hardware for over 3 days to test PPS and B/w usage for Iax2, I have in all case trunking happening in one direction only. |
| 20:47.15 | ariel_ | the user machine does not trunk, the peer does, even if I switch them around the user still does not trunk but the peer does |
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