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| 00:40.38 | synthetiq | what would be a negative effect of sending content that is less than the defiend content length? |
| 00:41.14 | synthetiq | defined |
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| 08:25.17 | oej | Morning |
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| 16:31.15 | kn0x | im running dahdi on a vserver host node, and ive created the /dev/dahdi/* devices in the VE, but the VE does not include the /proc entries for DAHDI |
| 16:31.19 | kn0x | any suggestions? |
| 16:31.36 | seanbright | is test really more portable than [? |
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| 16:42.28 | tzafrir | seanbright, where did did you see that? |
| 16:43.48 | kn0x | Failed to open timing fd |
| 16:44.02 | seanbright | M16416 |
| 16:44.04 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Core/Portability 0016416: [patch] Portability tweaks to contrib/scripts/safe_asterisk reported by bklang https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16416 |
| 16:44.07 | seanbright | tzafrir: ^^^ |
| 16:44.08 | kn0x | ive got /dev/dahdi/* and /proc/dahdi |
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| 16:48.40 | tzafrir | I get an impression he read the autoconf portability guide |
| 16:50.07 | seanbright | is that gnu-centric? |
| 16:50.08 | tzafrir | I'm not sure if there's any shell around (used in real systems) for which you need the x$FOO != x workaround |
| 16:50.19 | seanbright | right |
| 16:50.51 | tzafrir | what distro do you have? |
| 16:51.07 | seanbright | me? ubuntu kl |
| 16:51.09 | seanbright | kk rather |
| 16:51.46 | tzafrir | install the packages busybox (for busybox ash), posh, pdksh, zsh and dash |
| 16:51.56 | tzafrir | you'll have plenty of shells to test with |
| 16:52.17 | seanbright | i was just asking a general question |
| 16:52.26 | seanbright | i thought [ was more portable than 'test' |
| 16:52.35 | tzafrir | posh is rather limited, and supports very few features beyond posix |
| 16:52.47 | tzafrir | my answer was: AFAIK: no |
| 16:52.55 | seanbright | gotcha |
| 16:53.08 | tzafrir | but I suspect it's less fun for autoconf |
| 16:53.32 | tzafrir | as it might be confused with m4 there |
| 16:54.25 | tzafrir | kn0x, the vserver guest cannot create nodes on its own (or did you allow it to)? |
| 16:55.08 | tzafrir | kn0x, ls -l /dev/dahdi/pseudo |
| 16:56.17 | tzafrir | time head -c 8000 /dev/dahdi/pseudo |
| 16:56.49 | kn0x | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 196, 255 2009-10-13 02:25 /dev/dahdi/pseudo |
| 16:57.08 | kn0x | real 0m1.062s |
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| 16:57.20 | kn0x | i created the node |
| 16:57.25 | kn0x | with mknod |
| 16:58.11 | tzafrir | any chance you need to chown it to asterisk? |
| 16:59.19 | kn0x | nope, running it as root |
| 17:01.50 | kn0x | tzafrir: does this have anything to do with my /dev/fd/* ? |
| 17:02.12 | tzafrir | I don't think so. |
| 17:03.39 | kn0x | output of 'timing test' is: Failed to open timing fd |
| 17:05.37 | kn0x | :\ |
| 17:07.32 | kn0x | wait what the hell is fd? |
| 17:07.43 | kn0x | is that some sort of dahdidummy replacement timer? |
| 17:07.52 | kn0x | how do i switch timers? |
| 17:08.11 | tzafrir | what kernel version? |
| 17:08.47 | kn0x | w00t |
| 17:08.55 | kn0x | i just switched on internal timing |
| 17:09.00 | kn0x | and that disabled this fd timer |
| 17:09.13 | kn0x | i didnt realize asterisk 1.6.2 was using a different timer |
| 17:09.27 | kn0x | kernel is 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 |
| 17:10.32 | kn0x | :D |
| 17:11.05 | moy | kn0x: fd is a short name for file descriptor |
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| 20:03.10 | alecdavis | cdr logging: Is anyone considering changing cdr_odbc, and the other cdr_XXXXX database loggers, to work like cdr_mysql does (and from what I can see cdr_radius might also), which populates like fields, ie. if the cdr record has a field 'dnid' and if the database has a field 'dnid' then database field 'dnid' is populated. |
| 20:04.15 | alecdavis | why? https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/455/ adds 'dnid' to cdr record, and works as expected for mysql. |
| 20:04.47 | leifmadsen | I thought there was an issue which didn't allow ODBC to function like that |
| 20:04.55 | leifmadsen | i.e. ODBC visibility issue |
| 20:04.58 | leifmadsen | Corydon76-dig: would know |
| 20:05.25 | kpfleming | we already have cdr_adaptive_odbc |
| 20:05.31 | kpfleming | that's where the stuff in cdr_mysql came from |
| 20:05.38 | leifmadsen | that's what I was trying to remember |
| 20:05.42 | leifmadsen | ok, so it does work then :) |
| 20:07.29 | alecdavis | cool. no further work to do then :). perhaps cdr_csv with a conditional 'logdind' like the other 'loguserfield' |
| 20:07.42 | alecdavis | lgdnid! |
| 20:08.14 | alecdavis | logdnid! I need a new keyboard ... |
| 20:08.47 | kpfleming | why? just use cdr_custom |
| 20:10.18 | alecdavis | I dont mind leaving cdr_csv as it is. cdr_cstom works. |
| 20:11.34 | seanbright | loguserfield was added to cdr_csv for BC reasons |
| 20:12.05 | oej | Changing CLI in 1.4 was an un-needed change... It's now a LTS release that should not be affected by that kind of changes. |
| 20:12.12 | seanbright | but anyone who actually cares about cdrs is not use cdr_csv |
| 20:13.37 | alecdavis | cdrs for newbies = cdr_csv |
| 20:14.10 | drumkilla | oej: what revision are you talking about? |
| 20:14.29 | oej | The SIP show channels change by dvossel - adding five chars on cli. |
| 20:14.45 | drumkilla | that change was not made in 1.4. |
| 20:15.04 | oej | According to svn-commits it was |
| 20:15.19 | drumkilla | what is the revision number? |
| 20:15.26 | oej | I don't agree with the change from start. But also changing 1.4 was a bit too much |
| 20:15.33 | oej | 238409 |
| 20:15.59 | drumkilla | ah, there it is |
| 20:16.23 | alecdavis | anyone care to review https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/455/ so I can commit to trunk. |
| 20:16.23 | oej | Every change to a release has to be considered carefully, since they are evaluated and merged in many ways, often manually, to existing systems. |
| 20:16.35 | The_Boy_Wonder | i can revert that |
| 20:17.21 | drumkilla | The logic for requesting the minor increase was pretty good. |
| 20:17.22 | oej | We have earlier said that we should refer people to CLI if they want exact data |
| 20:17.32 | oej | in this case, they can use "sip show channel xxxx" |
| 20:17.54 | drumkilla | oej: did you read the bug report? |
| 20:18.01 | oej | I added a comment |
| 20:18.02 | drumkilla | in some of the most common configurations, the existing limit is _never_ enough |
| 20:18.14 | oej | No, it will never be enough. |
| 20:18.23 | drumkilla | sure, for all conceivable possibilities |
| 20:18.27 | oej | CLI commands are just giving overviews |
| 20:18.38 | drumkilla | but for the majority of cases, E.164 numbers |
| 20:18.54 | oej | Well, germany has much longer numbers |
| 20:19.03 | drumkilla | nods |
| 20:19.06 | oej | And SIP uri's are often longer, like e-mail |
| 20:19.13 | oej | So we can never satisfy everyone. |
| 20:19.28 | oej | And changing 1.4/1.6.0 releases was totally un-needed |
| 20:19.49 | russellb | and it also doesn't hurt, and helps a good number of people. |
| 20:19.59 | oej | You don't listen, russellb |
| 20:20.10 | russellb | I just don't agree with you. |
| 20:20.13 | oej | We will always have unsatisfied users in regards to CLI |
| 20:20.14 | russellb | and you get upset way too easily. |
| 20:20.43 | oej | Well, by committing this kind of stuff you cause a lot of extra work for many people |
| 20:21.27 | oej | I am not upset, I just think this was a stupid patch to commit to releases as well as commit at all. |
| 20:21.44 | russellb | thanks for the feedback. |
| 20:22.05 | The_Boy_Wonder | oej, maybe you discussed this, but how can this mess people up? |
| 20:24.17 | oej | In many production environments, they have an ASterisk that they are very careful to touch. Every patch committed to 1.4 is evaluated, tested and possibly merged. Every time they don't merge something, it will be harder to diff and manage their version. We used to have a policy of not change the code in releases unless it was bug fixes. THis is not a bug fix. |
| 20:27.20 | russellb | and wouldn't entirely new modules also significantly increase diffs against a release branch? You suggested that we should be allowing new modules in LTS releases in a -dev list message a few months ago. |
| 20:28.57 | oej | The 1.4 release policy says "Commits to Asterisk 1.4 must be to address bugs only." |
| 20:29.01 | oej | THis is not a bug. |
| 20:29.25 | russellb | so a new channel driver would be okay, but a trivial format string change is absurd? |
| 20:29.27 | oej | I don't see the issue with adding a new file to the source tree. There won't be any existing patches or changes in their private code. |
| 20:29.47 | oej | I did not say absurd - but an un-needed change. You said absurd. |
| 20:29.58 | russellb | "a stupid patch to commit" |
| 20:30.08 | oej | Yes, but that's not absurd |
| 20:30.19 | Amorsen | New channel drivers are easily kept out simply by not configuring them |
| 20:30.20 | russellb | k, s/absurd/stupid patch to commit/ |
| 20:30.28 | russellb | annnnnnnnnnnnnyway |
| 20:30.50 | Amorsen | They can't break anything but the build unless loaded |
| 20:31.58 | russellb | and 99.9% of users use the default module config of loading everything |
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