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| 00:42.10 | leifmadsen | snuff-home: ping! |
| 00:42.25 | leifmadsen | M16309 |
| 00:42.28 | MuffinMan | [acknowledged] [Asterisk] Functions/General 0016309: segfault in "core show functions" reported by asgaroth (Karma: neutral) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16309 |
| 00:42.28 | leifmadsen | that issue is calling your name :) |
| 01:12.09 | snuff-work | heh.. probably same issue |
| 01:12.52 | leifmadsen | ya, that's what I think soo |
| 01:12.54 | leifmadsen | too* |
| 01:12.59 | leifmadsen | snuff-home: morning! |
| 01:13.54 | snuff-work | well its just gone noon here :) |
| 01:14.35 | russellb | well he does say "formats/format_g729" ... |
| 01:14.40 | russellb | might be worth just asking for clarification |
| 01:14.45 | russellb | format_g729 is in the tree. |
| 01:14.53 | russellb | s/say/report it agains/ |
| 01:14.54 | leifmadsen | damnit! lol |
| 01:15.00 | russellb | sorry sorry sorry |
| 01:15.05 | russellb | he'll reopen if we're wrong :-p |
| 01:15.11 | leifmadsen | that's what I was thinking |
| 01:15.54 | leifmadsen | move along people, there's nothing to see here, nothing to... OH MY GOD! A HORRIBLE PLANE CRASH! Gather 'round people. Don't be shy, gather 'round. |
| 01:16.22 | snuff-work | with 1 of the other bugs he logged.. the 'MIX/MAX' thing.. couldn't that fix in trunk been backported to 1.6.x ? |
| 01:25.04 | snuff-work | mm interesting thing about the backtrace.. 0x81a0490 "core show functions", 0x4 <Address 0x4 out of bounds>, 0xfec20c5c "", 0xfec1e000 "<ë\021", |
| 01:25.04 | snuff-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.31 | jpeeler | leifmadsen: why do you think 16106 is related to 16085? |
| 02:19.10 | leifmadsen | only because the reporter states he thinks it is. I'm unable to verify the relation of all the issues, so I have to sometimes rely on reporters and developers to do the review. You're welcome to remove the relation if you feel it is incorrect. |
| 02:19.28 | jpeeler | but my comment following it said i doubted it |
| 02:19.39 | leifmadsen | M16106 |
| 02:19.42 | jpeeler | just checking to see if you had some more info or something |
| 02:19.43 | MuffinMan | [assigned] [Asterisk] Core/General 0016106: [patch] Hangup extension executed twice in 1.6.2 RC2 reported by ajohnson (Karma: +1.75) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16106 |
| 02:19.46 | seanbright | issue 16106#last |
| 02:20.03 | leifmadsen | huh... I can't find that note |
| 02:20.14 | seanbright | https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16106#114158 |
| 02:20.29 | seanbright | M16106#114158 |
| 02:20.32 | MuffinMan | [16106#0114158] Commented by jpeeler on 2009-11-23 at 13:01: ajohnson: were you able to test this patch yet? |
| 02:20.33 | MuffinMan | .. |
| 02:20.33 | MuffinMan | ..Micc: doubtful |
| 02:20.43 | leifmadsen | jpeeler: ah -- I didn't see that in the other issue |
| 02:20.59 | leifmadsen | I only saw the note on 16085 |
| 02:21.03 | leifmadsen | apologies |
| 02:21.12 | jpeeler | oh he wrote in both places... |
| 02:21.22 | jpeeler | no worries, just surprised me |
| 02:21.48 | leifmadsen | ya, I only saw the note on the other issue, not the referenced note |
| 02:22.05 | leifmadsen | I was also going a bit quick as I've been writing documentation all day, and I had 150 issues to review tonight :) |
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| 04:11.02 | TheDavidFactor-H | leifmadsen, what time zone are you in? |
| 04:31.04 | snuff-work | he is with all the rest of the canadians |
| 04:53.46 | Corydon76-dig | TheDavidFactor-H: Eastern |
| 04:55.51 | Corydon76-dig | One hour ahead of Digium Standard Time |
| 05:00.32 | snuff-work | oh Corydon76-dig.. i have alignment issues with stringfields set command on sparc.. |
| 05:00.33 | snuff-work | since its a macro i'm not sure which line its complaining about |
| 05:06.08 | Corydon76-dig | alignment, I guess? |
| 05:06.47 | Corydon76-dig | Not sure why. Are char strings really in need of alignment? |
| 05:52.58 | Corydon76-dig | snuff-work: okay, I have an idea, but I'll need your testing to confirm whether it fixes the issue or not |
| 06:00.42 | snuff-work | np |
| 06:02.00 | Corydon76-dig | http://asterisk.drunkcoder.com/patches/20091124__for_snuff.diff.txt |
| 06:03.14 | Corydon76-dig | If that doesn't directly work, try changing the uint16_t in that patch to a uint64_t |
| 06:03.27 | Corydon76-dig | but try the initial patch first. |
| 06:04.01 | Corydon76-dig | If neither work, then I haven't found the alignment issue yet |
| 06:05.02 | snuff-work | np |
| 06:16.15 | Corydon76-dig | That work? |
| 06:22.59 | snuff-work | 1 sec i apply patch.. (have to be doing real work (tm)) as well ;) |
| 06:25.06 | snuff-work | rebuilding now |
| 06:27.20 | snuff-work | nope.. didn't work still got errors on field_set |
| 06:29.37 | Corydon76-dig | Dunno, then |
| 06:32.48 | snuff-work | oh.. change to uint64t.. haven't done that yet |
| 06:32.51 | snuff-work | i try that too |
| 06:34.21 | snuff-work | nope.. uint64_t still no go.. thanks for trying |
| 06:36.12 | snuff-work | how hard would it be to translate the macro to a function call (just for test purposes) |
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| 09:33.05 | jkroon | hi guys, i'm busy writing a module for asterisk and have a need to monitor when calls gets answered/hung up in the module, how would I go about this? |
| 09:47.49 | tzafrir | jkroon, in this module? What do you mean? What version of Asterisk? |
| 09:48.02 | jkroon | 1.6.1.x |
| 09:48.21 | jkroon | i want to load a custom module into asterisk that knows about call (channel?) answers/hangups |
| 09:49.02 | jkroon | my other option is to write a manager hook where I can perform the calculations in a separate "daemon" that just connects via the manager daemon. |
| 09:49.09 | jkroon | busy investigating that option too. |
| 10:12.43 | jkroon | looks like getting the info via external mechanism is actually going to be simpler. |
| 10:23.57 | Amorsen | jkroon: Maybe the jabber module would be good for inspiration? |
| 10:24.34 | jkroon | Amorsen, probably yes. |
| 10:24.39 | jkroon | thanks for that pointer. |
| 10:29.51 | Amorsen | We're doing everything through the manager socket, but it would probably have been nicer to extend the jabber module |
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| 10:39.59 | jkroon | Amorsen, i'm unable to get the jabber module to connect to the jabber server. is there some restrictions? |
| 10:41.34 | Amorsen | jkroon: I haven't actually tried the jabber module, to be honest. I just know that its able to somehow catch call events |
| 10:43.12 | jkroon | oh well. |
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| 11:56.27 | DagMoller | tzafrir, hi |
| 11:56.27 | DagMoller | tzafrir, have you tested monast? |
| 12:04.00 | tzafrir | DagMoller, not yet |
| 12:24.38 | kaii | what is monast? |
| 12:24.52 | DagMoller | an asterisk monitor |
| 12:25.05 | DagMoller | kaii, http://monast.sf.net |
| 12:25.06 | kaii | yeah sry 4 asking, bad habit. google was faster :) |
| 12:25.14 | DagMoller | :D |
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| 14:20.54 | kaii | !M16317 |
| 14:20.58 | kaii | M16317 |
| 14:21.01 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Core/General 0016317: [patch] stop the flame - remove 'silly' from channel.c reported by dimas (Karma: +109.75) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16317 |
| 14:23.14 | malcolmd | heh |
| 14:23.32 | kaii | cries silently, as the email was actually intended as a final pun |
| 14:24.47 | tzanger | I think it should be left in as a matter of principle |
| 14:25.04 | tzanger | maybe I'll create a patch to add "sily europeans" whereever A_LAW is mentioned :-) |
| 14:25.11 | TheDavidFactor | I concur |
| 14:25.23 | kpfleming | or change all symbolc constants for a-Law to Euro-Law |
| 14:25.30 | tzanger | and just to prove I have no bias, I'd add "silly americans" to u-law |
| 14:25.44 | tzanger | no we need the euro symbol |
| 14:25.49 | tzanger | come on, UTF8 everyhwere! |
| 14:26.04 | tzanger | I don't think I can even input a euro symbol in my irc session |
| 14:26.22 | kaii | ⬠|
| 14:26.23 | tzafrir | But A-Law is universal. Just like UTF-8 |
| 14:26.38 | tzanger | â¬-law |
| 14:26.39 | tzanger | nopw |
| 14:26.40 | tzanger | heh |
| 14:27.05 | tzafrir | Only not as complex |
| 14:27.16 | kaii | in fact, alaw is a real standard |
| 14:27.19 | Juggie | i cannot believe this is still going |
| 14:28.06 | tzanger | heh |
| 14:28.13 | tzanger | come on, everyone loves a good flame once in a while |
| 14:28.24 | kaii | agreed :) |
| 14:28.43 | Juggie | its up to 52 replies though! |
| 14:29.34 | tzanger | kaii: I replied to the right person |
| 14:30.05 | tzanger | Vlasis was the one who said along the lines of "hmm maybe THAT's why everyone's attacking the Nancy instead of fixing the code" |
| 14:30.24 | Juggie | someone should post a patch that removes all comments :) |
| 14:30.37 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 14:30.39 | atis_work | heh.. can somebody get definite answer from Mark Spencer that it was he's comment? :D |
| 14:30.43 | tzanger | that would actually be a fun thing to do |
| 14:30.55 | Juggie | ya awk it all out or something and post the diff |
| 14:31.02 | Juggie | which will be 2megs :) |
| 14:31.03 | tzanger | yep |
| 14:31.04 | atis_work | i resisted myself to reply initially :P |
| 14:31.06 | kpfleming | no, it might not be from him |
| 14:31.09 | tzafrir | atis_work, that what's 'svn blame' is for |
| 14:31.15 | tzanger | svn blame? |
| 14:31.20 | tzanger | I gotta look that up, it sounds too good to be true |
| 14:31.21 | Juggie | blame says russellb |
| 14:31.22 | kpfleming | we don't actually have per-committer revisions that old in the repository |
| 14:31.25 | atis_work | tzafrir: i already checked it, it was r3xx |
| 14:31.30 | atis_work | pretty early |
| 14:31.58 | atis_work | Juggie: russelb just reformatted it to doxygen |
| 14:32.06 | Juggie | ya i know it wasnt him |
| 14:32.10 | Juggie | just saying thats what blame says |
| 14:32.20 | atis_work | just blame one revision before |
| 14:32.30 | atis_work | it will give 3 digit revision.. |
| 14:32.31 | Juggie | didnt try that :) |
| 14:33.48 | kaii | tzanger: sry for the misunderstanding .. but that was totally not the point of my writing (as clearly stated) :) |
| 14:33.53 | leifmadsen | please note this thread about the word "silly" is ridiculously silly. EOL. |
| 14:34.05 | tzanger | I'm actually logging in to mantis to vote this one down too |
| 14:34.06 | tzanger | wow |
| 14:34.13 | tzanger | kaii: :-) |
| 14:34.20 | tzanger | come on we should start another flame war |
| 14:34.25 | tzanger | totally hijack the thread |
| 14:34.46 | atis_work | tzanger: yeah, about preserving asterisk history.. |
| 14:35.07 | tzanger | horrors |
| 14:35.07 | TheDavidFactor | and do it with some thing that's totally nuts, like would star wars or star trek win |
| 14:35.12 | tzanger | I can't remember my mantis login! |
| 14:35.20 | tzanger | haha |
| 14:35.37 | atis_work | TheDavidFactor: defineately star trek |
| 14:36.21 | tzanger | what are you talking about, you have a bunch of people in skin-tight clothes banging on about some prime directive |
| 14:36.32 | tzanger | star wars is where the guy gets his friggin hand chopped off by his own father |
| 14:37.08 | tzanger | oh and star trek is where the pizza-faced 13 year old always saves the day but inverting a tachyon pulse out the main deflector |
| 14:37.11 | tzanger | I mean come on |
| 14:37.15 | leifmadsen | tzanger: I can reset your password if you want |
| 14:37.15 | tzanger | if that always works, why don't they try that FIRST? |
| 14:37.21 | tzanger | leifmadsen: nah I just asked it to send it to me |
| 14:38.30 | TheDavidFactor | see.. even we could get hot over it ;-) |
| 14:40.30 | kpfleming | votes for Star Trek Wars |
| 14:42.37 | TheDavidFactor | What about Star Wars Trek: Going where no man has gone before to cut off hands |
| 14:42.58 | Juggie | its a good thing leifmadsen isnt sensative because he's a smelly torontonian |
| 14:43.15 | kpfleming | orontarian |
| 14:43.17 | Juggie | leifmadsen, OT: 61 shots and we lose! :( |
| 14:43.58 | tzanger | all torontonians are smelly, but lief's actually one of the less smelly ones |
| 14:44.08 | tzanger | (he still owes me a beer) |
| 14:44.21 | leifmadsen | tzanger: you haven't come to accept it |
| 14:44.23 | tzanger | actually this month's TAUG looks interesting |
| 14:44.27 | tzanger | leifmadsen: yeah I know |
| 14:44.40 | tzanger | much like my LUG appearances, my AUG appearances are few and far between |
| 14:45.17 | tzanger | mind you I haven't done hardly ANY asterisk work outside of my top secret israeli project lately |
| 14:45.34 | Juggie | if it360 had not been reduced to 1day i could justify going! |
| 14:47.20 | kaii | +1 for russellb |
| 14:47.39 | Juggie | boo, i cant see the notes leifmadsen deleted :) |
| 14:48.32 | kaii | i've read (or written) both :P |
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| 14:58.18 | TheDavidFactor | +1 for russellb |
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| 15:05.08 | atis_work | aaah, i missed some flame comments on mantis :( |
| 15:07.45 | tzafrir | You didn't miss anything silly |
| 15:10.58 | tzanger | lawl |
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| 15:17.40 | MAbbas | Hi All .. I need some help regarding AGI scripting .. |
| 15:17.49 | MAbbas | I need to know how can I get list of free agents in my AGI script? |
| 15:18.02 | atis_work | MAbbas: #asterisk |
| 15:18.18 | MAbbas | alright, tx |
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| 15:54.31 | tzanger | hmm |
| 15:54.37 | tzanger | does asterisk not pass all indications up to dahdi? |
| 15:54.46 | tzanger | busy works |
| 15:54.48 | tzanger | progress works |
| 15:54.50 | tzanger | answered doesn't seem to |
| 15:55.18 | file | that's a very generic question, you are going to have to give more details and be specific |
| 15:57.33 | tzanger | it's a very generic function |
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| 15:59.39 | tzafrir | tzanger, what sort of dahdi channel? What signalling? |
| 16:00.38 | tzanger | tzafrir: custom. I'm just talking about in general |
| 16:00.50 | tzanger | the channel driver doesn't seem to call _indicate on answer |
| 16:00.53 | tzanger | I must have to hook in another way |
| 16:01.03 | tzafrir | Well, with ISDN DAHDI does not even get the indications |
| 16:01.12 | tzanger | actually it seems to -- just not answer :-) |
| 16:01.13 | tzafrir | or is it chan_dahdi? |
| 16:01.35 | tzanger | chan_dahdi, which has lots of #ifdef PRI type stuff in _hangup and _indicate, which is expected |
| 16:02.35 | tzanger | I think eventually this is going to become a totally new channel driver, but as I said I've got _indicate logging EVERY time it's called and it doesn't seem to get called when the remote side answers the line |
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| 16:06.02 | tzanger | busy/congestion and progress seem to be the ones I get called with |
| 16:06.11 | tzanger | hmm, what's the difference between PROCEEDING and PROGRESS? |
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| 16:07.10 | file | tzanger: right, _answer is called instead |
| 16:07.21 | file | er wait |
| 16:07.21 | file | rereads |
| 16:07.56 | file | okay so you are doing chan_dahdi -> core -> another channel, when another channel answers you are expecting _indicate to get called with answer |
| 16:08.04 | file | right? |
| 16:09.23 | tzanger | yes, but if that's not the rgiht mechanism, then maybe some help in determining which is the correct mechanism for a channel driver to know that the remote end has answered the call |
| 16:09.38 | tzanger | wait, there's an _answer? am I that fucking blind? |
| 16:09.39 | file | there's an answer callback in the channel technology structure |
| 16:09.43 | file | that is called. |
| 16:10.08 | tzanger | omg |
| 16:10.14 | tzanger | EYEAM SOFA KING STUPID |
| 16:11.25 | tzanger | flogs himself with doxygen |
| 16:12.13 | file | tzanger: you need more coffee |
| 16:12.44 | tzanger | agreed |
| 16:12.53 | tzanger | doctor, I need another caffeine drip, stat! |
| 16:14.41 | Qwell | tzanger: I want to get a fountain drink machine, and put in some redbull syrup |
| 16:14.58 | Qwell | yeah, I'm not gonna make it to 40 |
| 16:15.35 | kpfleming | tzanger: http://thereifixedit.com/2009/11/24/i-can-never-remember-if-i-wiggle-the-red-or-green-wire-for-hot-water/ |
| 16:15.45 | jsmith | tzanger: PROCEEDING is equivalent to a 100 Trying... it's saying "I need more time to establish this call" |
| 16:16.39 | file | Qwell: dooooooooo it |
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| 16:17.56 | jsmith | tzanger: As I understand it, PROGRESS is roughly the same as ALERTING... with the only difference being that the other leg of the call is not ISDN (otherwise, it would be ALERTING) |
| 16:20.09 | kpfleming | actually, PROGRESS typically means there is early media |
| 16:20.32 | jsmith | kpfleming: Oh, does it? |
| 16:20.33 | kpfleming | which could be on ISDN, SS7, or it could be inband ringback for a non-ISDN/non-SS7 interworking situation |
| 16:20.59 | jsmith | kpfleming: I thought early media came in ALERTING as well, if the other endpoint is ISDN |
| 16:21.11 | jsmith | starts digging through the Telcordia mess |
| 16:21.12 | kpfleming | nope |
| 16:21.24 | kpfleming | ALERTING is out-of-band ringing |
| 16:22.02 | Corydon76-dig | kpfleming: it's the red wire, of course |
| 16:22.11 | kpfleming | clearly |
| 16:22.15 | Corydon76-dig | green is ground |
| 16:22.29 | kpfleming | no, green is the grounding conductor :-) |
| 16:22.40 | Corydon76-dig | white is common |
| 16:22.41 | jsmith | It's not grounding... it's bonding! Get it right! |
| 16:22.41 | kpfleming | as opposed to white, which is the grounded conductor |
| 16:22.48 | kpfleming | there is no 'common' |
| 16:22.56 | kpfleming | at least not in proper eletrical terminology terms |
| 16:23.07 | file | grounds kpfleming |
| 16:23.13 | kpfleming | whimpers |
| 16:23.27 | jsmith | Hey, I've actually taken showers with electric show heads like that |
| 16:23.33 | jsmith | (and been shocked a few times, too) |
| 16:23.41 | jsmith | Maybe I shouldn't admit that in public |
| 16:23.49 | Corydon76-dig | shorts electrical ground to earth ground |
| 16:24.08 | kpfleming | that's mean |
| 16:24.39 | Corydon76-dig | kpfleming: only if someone is standing on the grounding plate |
| 16:24.56 | tzanger | file: that's exactly what hte problem was |
| 16:24.58 | tzanger | I'm just an ididot |
| 16:25.04 | tzanger | haha |
| 16:25.08 | tzanger | that's even worse |
| 16:25.10 | tzanger | that's an idiot who can't type |
| 16:25.19 | tzanger | or stutters on the keyboard, not sure |
| 16:25.20 | file | I think this makes the third time I've de-idiotified you |
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| 16:25.39 | tzanger | file: you've got a good track record |
| 16:26.03 | tzanger | interesting kpfleming |
| 16:26.10 | file | you and your crazy projects. |
| 16:26.26 | tzanger | file: it's not my fault they want to reverse engineer the nortel sets |
| 16:26.58 | tzanger | and actually it's something I've personally always wanted to do, although they've reverse engineered the *backplane* ot the fiber loops that I was going oafter |
| 16:27.01 | tzanger | er after |
| 16:27.07 | tzanger | these guys have serious reverse engineering skills |
| 16:27.19 | tzanger | they're all ex-Israeli military |
| 16:27.38 | tzanger | I am positive they have crazy Mossad training or something for this specific kind of task |
| 16:27.53 | tzanger | ... either that or a bunch of ex-nortel engineers locked away in a windowless cell in Haifa |
| 16:28.16 | Juggie | tzanger, prob woudnt bother them, they are all un-employed anyway |
| 16:28.20 | tzanger | haha |
| 16:28.22 | tzanger | too true |
| 16:28.40 | Juggie | seimens just bought out the campus here in ottawa |
| 16:28.48 | Juggie | pretty big nortel campus too |
| 16:29.53 | Juggie | er, nm it was ericsson |
| 16:30.04 | Juggie | and nokia-seimens is trying to buy anothe part |
| 16:32.19 | Qwell | Nortel Realty? |
| 16:32.36 | Juggie | if its a joke it went over my head. |
| 16:33.22 | Qwell | they got out of the phone business, and now all they've got is a bunch of property. sounds like they're in the realty business now |
| 16:33.34 | Qwell | it's not as funny if I have to explain it :P |
| 16:33.41 | Juggie | they are shutting down trying to liquidate to sastify creditors so yes they are :) |
| 16:33.46 | Juggie | they have lots of nice property |
| 16:34.00 | Juggie | alot of fed gov buildings in ottawa are ex nortel buildings |
| 16:34.04 | Juggie | (or jds uniphase) |
| 16:34.33 | Juggie | built during the tech boom, companies buy them for 1$ retrofit and then lease to fed gov |
| 16:35.05 | Juggie | lucrative business |
| 16:35.15 | Juggie | as the goverment doesn't want to own any property anymore i dont believe |
| 16:35.33 | tzanger | government's weird. |
| 16:35.50 | Juggie | indeed |
| 16:37.13 | Juggie | i believe ericsson just bought this: http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=carling+and+moodie,+ottawa,+on&sll=45.184392,-76.122183&sspn=0.043859,0.111494&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Carling+Ave+%26+Moodie+Dr,+Ottawa,+Ottawa+Division,+Ontario&ll=45.349823,-75.851583&spn=0.010933,0.027874&t=h&z=16 |
| 16:37.37 | Qwell | that whole area? |
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| 16:37.46 | Juggie | ya thats all nortel |
| 16:37.52 | Qwell | crazy |
| 16:38.28 | Juggie | note how none of the streets have names per the map |
| 16:38.29 | Juggie | all private |
| 16:38.38 | Qwell | they had their own bus stops? |
| 16:38.47 | Juggie | i'd say |
| 16:38.57 | Qwell | and what's up with that house in the back? O.o |
| 16:39.25 | Juggie | haha |
| 16:39.26 | Juggie | good question |
| 16:39.57 | Qwell | pretty sure I see a pool |
| 16:40.33 | Juggie | coulda been anything |
| 16:40.55 | Qwell | kpfleming: Can we requisition a party house on our lot? |
| 16:41.19 | jsmith | kpfleming: It looks like we're both right... the bits you set in the PROGRESS message can indicate that the far end is either ISDN or non-ISDN |
| 16:41.26 | Juggie | that might be more nortel there just on the other side of moodie |
| 16:41.27 | Juggie | but i am not sure |
| 16:41.32 | kpfleming | you can requisition anything... whether it will be approved or not is a different question |
| 16:41.50 | file | same goes for expensing things |
| 16:42.47 | Juggie | Qwell, i'm sure the employee numbers are out of date now but: http://www.nortel.com/corporate/global/namerica/canada/ottawa.html |
| 16:43.01 | Juggie | it does not mention the party house though :) |
| 16:44.29 | Juggie | heh |
| 16:44.35 | Juggie | they had 20,000 employees in ottawa in 2000 |
| 16:44.36 | Juggie | nuts |
| 16:44.40 | Juggie | made alot of people rich |
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| 17:03.31 | kpfleming | well, at least the silly thread can be continued in private email if people wish. that's nice. |
| 17:03.51 | seanbright | eh? |
| 17:04.09 | seanbright | ahh |
| 17:05.12 | kaii | "The community has spoken" :D |
| 17:05.20 | seanbright | now we just need to get nick lewis to stop using that signature block |
| 17:05.27 | seanbright | sorry... that silly signature block |
| 17:05.31 | kpfleming | right |
| 17:06.35 | Juggie | i recomend adding 'Silly Amercain' to your sigium sig block :) |
| 17:06.40 | Juggie | *digium |
| 17:06.49 | seanbright | *American |
| 17:06.53 | Juggie | sigh |
| 17:06.57 | Juggie | i cant spell today |
| 17:06.59 | kaii | more important, he should fix his mail client which most of the time sends wrong or no In-Reply-To header |
| 17:07.01 | Juggie | or any other day for that matter |
| 17:07.09 | seanbright | kaii: probably notes or something |
| 17:07.44 | kaii | i already wrote him about that (and also mentioned the large pointless signature block) |
| 17:08.21 | seanbright | Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 |
| 17:08.25 | seanbright | that might explain it |
| 17:08.29 | kaii | "Thanks for notifying me of the problem. I will raise it with our all powerful IT department." |
| 17:10.39 | Juggie | anyway the more we discuss it on irc etc it just feeds the flames :) |
| 17:10.53 | Juggie | i suggest we all ignore the issue and move on to other work be it asterisk or otherwise! |
| 17:11.46 | Juggie | not ignore i guess but put it to rest. |
| 17:24.07 | kaii | i receive emails from the list with 20 minutes delay .. is this because i'm a silly european? *scnr* |
| 17:24.41 | kaii | just received the mail kevin mentioned at 1800 |
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| 17:26.54 | kpfleming | kaii: look at the mail headers to see where the delay was |
| 17:27.07 | kpfleming | keep in mind that there are 4K+ subscribers on that list |
| 17:27.39 | kaii | kpfleming: i was just kidding .. dont really care |
| 17:29.51 | Qwell | kaii: I get the same delay, and the email only has to travel about 100ft |
| 17:29.52 | kaii | INXS is a nice name for a server .. are all digium servers named after bands? is there "abba" too? ;) |
| 17:30.23 | kpfleming | there was at one time |
| 17:30.35 | kpfleming | that server has been around for a while... recently installed servers have names of beers |
| 17:30.43 | kaii | also nice |
| 17:30.43 | kpfleming | or other random stuff |
| 17:30.56 | Qwell | kpfleming: only the lame IT-owned ones |
| 17:30.56 | russellb | wibble! |
| 17:30.58 | kaii | ours are named after encryption and hashing algorithms |
| 17:31.08 | Juggie | we use simpsons characters :) |
| 17:31.17 | kpfleming | in swdev we have wibble, vroomfondel and various others |
| 17:31.30 | kaii | Juggie: you will eventually run out of names :) |
| 17:31.38 | file | uses particles |
| 17:31.42 | Qwell | kaii: Have you ever seen the poster of all Simpsons characters? |
| 17:31.46 | Qwell | he won't run out |
| 17:31.48 | Juggie | kaii, hah no we wont |
| 17:31.59 | kaii | mh ok .. they ALL have a name? |
| 17:32.02 | Qwell | yes |
| 17:32.14 | kaii | guess we run out earlier then .. |
| 17:32.22 | kaii | who wants server names like AES256 |
| 17:32.29 | Juggie | http://atejada.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/poster-gross.jpg |
| 17:32.34 | Qwell | kaii: just add more bits |
| 17:32.42 | Juggie | ignore the gross, its just from some french blog |
| 17:32.44 | Juggie | where gross = big |
| 17:32.52 | Qwell | AES2^31 would make a good server name |
| 17:33.05 | kaii | Qwell: i try to avoid names like AES256 .. we still have blowfish, rijndael and stuff :) |
| 17:33.29 | kaii | Juggie: gross is "big" in german, not french .. |
| 17:33.41 | kpfleming | well... sort of |
| 17:33.53 | kpfleming | without the double-s, it's spelled grosse |
| 17:33.55 | Qwell | gro(funkyshere) |
| 17:34.37 | Juggie | given that i speak french kali |
| 17:34.41 | kaii | kpfleming: you're right, didnt know that |
| 17:34.51 | Juggie | i'm quite certain it also means big in french |
| 17:35.26 | Juggie | gros / grosse |
| 17:35.35 | Juggie | (male/female) |
| 17:35.56 | kaii | yes, i was wrong. i threw (german)"gross" in the translator and "grosse" wasnt on the other side (french) .. funny |
| 17:37.17 | Juggie | french is a crazy language |
| 17:37.43 | kaii | it is, i tried to not learn it at school |
| 17:38.08 | kaii | (with *g*) |
| 17:38.25 | kaii | with success, i wanted to type ... alright, time to knock off.. yay. |
| 17:39.32 | putnopvut | That simpsons picture is weird. |
| 17:39.40 | Qwell | it's really old |
| 17:39.48 | putnopvut | Specifically, look at homer. |
| 17:39.50 | Qwell | it's really old |
| 17:40.12 | putnopvut | that's not what I mean... |
| 17:40.24 | putnopvut | I mean it looks like a bad photoshop job because of the line going down the picture. |
| 17:40.49 | Qwell | oh, well yeah |
| 17:41.44 | seanbright | it was probably scanned in from a book or something |
| 17:41.46 | Juggie | http://www.irintech.com/x1/images/jean/simpsons_family.jpg there that one is better |
| 17:41.48 | seanbright | and then pasted back together |
| 17:42.51 | seanbright | unfortunately ctrl-f doesn't work |
| 17:42.57 | Juggie | hmmm where the hell is homer |
| 17:43.05 | seanbright | right-center |
| 17:43.12 | Juggie | ah |
| 17:43.16 | Juggie | next to wiggium |
| 17:43.20 | seanbright | indeed. |
| 17:43.24 | seanbright | i can't find bart. |
| 17:43.49 | Qwell | also right-center |
| 17:44.08 | Juggie | next to the guy in the purple jacket |
| 17:44.27 | Juggie | forget his name, he gave homer the broncos. |
| 17:44.35 | seanbright | ahh |
| 17:44.47 | seanbright | everyone in the main family is on the right-hand side. |
| 17:45.06 | seanbright | that's probably not significant |
| 17:45.50 | Juggie | hmmm |
| 17:45.52 | Juggie | is mindy there |
| 17:46.04 | Juggie | ya, bottom right |
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| 17:46.53 | seanbright | mindy? |
| 17:47.14 | seanbright | ahh/ |
| 17:47.16 | seanbright | ok, we're OT. |
| 17:47.17 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:47.36 | Juggie | homer almost had an afair with her when they won king and queen of the power conference |
| 17:47.51 | Juggie | was on last night :) |
| 17:48.07 | Juggie | and we've been OT for a while |
| 17:48.46 | kpfleming | Juggie: years :-) |
| 17:48.53 | Juggie | touche. |
| 17:49.08 | Juggie | slightly more on topic i wonder where i could find a cheap half rack for my basement |
| 17:49.11 | Juggie | does such a thing exist. |
| 17:49.18 | Qwell | they do exist |
| 17:49.35 | Juggie | i know they exist i just mean is there anything resonably priced i wonder |
| 17:49.35 | seanbright | you could buy a full rack and just use half of it |
| 17:49.45 | kpfleming | lots of salvage places have them |
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| 17:52.59 | Juggie | hrmf |
| 17:53.02 | Juggie | found one for 125 |
| 17:54.31 | Juggie | hmm wow, an IBM one w/ a glass door for 280 |
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| 18:33.23 | leifmadsen | Juggie: ya, I think I want to get a half rack for some of my audio equipment |
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| 18:58.31 | jpeeler | atis_work: just a reminder to put that patch in production and get lots of logs. i'm going to be out (as are a lot of people) until next week. |
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| 19:43.16 | leifmadsen | http://www.cafepress.com/leifshop <-- now you can buy the tshirt! |
| 19:43.51 | sruffell | lol |
| 19:50.45 | denon | leifmadsen: This content has been removed at the request of the European Union. Please contact support@cafepress.com for more information. |
| 19:56.37 | Marquis42 | Other than for some reason not matching an in-memory peer why would chan_sip run build_peer every time I send an INVITE? |
| 19:57.40 | russellb | that's the only reason i can think of off of the top of my head |
| 19:58.43 | Marquis42 | That's what I thought. I just don't understand why it's not finding it. And the problem is that every time build_peer is run, the mailbox list gets appended to. So after a few calls, it thinks I have a tons of mailboxes all with the same value. :/ |
| 19:59.46 | Marquis42 | Realtime with rtcachefriends, FWIW. |
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| 20:26.53 | Juggie | leifmadsen, can the whole comment fit on that shirt |
| 20:27.00 | Juggie | eg /* ... */ |
| 20:27.10 | Juggie | that would be funnier :) |
| 20:32.34 | seanbright | agreed. |
| 20:34.57 | Marquis42 | Oh, I get it... This is a side effect of what's wrong in issue 16021. Now to test the attached patch! |
| 20:38.18 | seanbright | issue 16021 |
| 20:38.28 | seanbright | M16021 |
| 20:38.31 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0016021: [patch] sippeers loaded with realtime are treated as type=friends, no matter what type is in the db reported by Guggemand (Karma: neutral) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16021 |
| 20:38.38 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0016021: [patch] sippeers loaded with realtime are treated as type=friends, no matter what type is in the db reported by Guggemand (Karma: neutral) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16021 |
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| 20:51.46 | Marquis42 | Wait, no, that doesn't help. :( |
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| 21:25.12 | Deeewayne | putnopvut, pah-zing |
| 21:25.23 | putnopvut | Deeewayne: Pyongyang |
| 21:25.51 | Deeewayne | i got my mountain bike all tuned up! |
| 21:26.20 | putnopvut | Spiffy! |
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| 23:28.22 | alecdavis | ISDN question, re: Mantis bug 15972. Should an unrestricted digital call have the txgain/rxgain set to zero? |
| 23:30.12 | alecdavis | bearing in mind, possible unrestricted digital calls can be SPEECH, AUDIO 3.1khz, or DATA, perhaps more. |
| 23:32.05 | Corydon76-dig | Considering that gains are considered to be a way for us to combat signal degradation on analog lines, I'd have to say yes. |
| 23:32.24 | Corydon76-dig | pure digital should not need any gains whatsoever |
| 23:32.30 | alecdavis | Another ISDN related question, should EchoCan be enabled on an Unrestricted Digital Speech or Audio 3.1khz call? |
| 23:32.39 | Corydon76-dig | No |
| 23:33.23 | Corydon76-dig | echocan is purely to combat crosstalk on analog lines |
| 23:33.53 | alecdavis | yeah, both bugs are right then. |
| 23:33.53 | Corydon76-dig | Well, and the possibility of acoustic echo, but that's a different animal |
| 23:36.57 | alecdavis | The other being M16151, DIGITAL calls across a B410P connect, but no data transfer. Which was commited today, but after questions were raised with tx/rxgain, prompted the question. |
| 23:37.17 | kpfleming | Corydon76-dig: echo can is not for crosstalk, it's for echo |
| 23:37.21 | kpfleming | nothing combats crosstalk |
| 23:37.46 | kpfleming | and in answer to all of these question, my opinion is that if the call is in digital mode, we should not touch the bitstream in any way |
| 23:38.51 | alecdavis | kpflemming, thats where jpeeler and I got to, but not being 100% sure, left M15972 as a question for rmudgett. |
| 23:39.18 | kpfleming | in fact, if the call is not in audio mode, the txgain and rxgain won't matter, because they won't be applied |
| 23:39.44 | alecdavis | try it. they do. |
| 23:39.54 | kpfleming | i have no way to try it |
| 23:40.04 | kpfleming | but if that's the case, that's a serious bug in dahdi |
| 23:40.27 | alecdavis | hence patch. |
| 23:40.41 | kpfleming | if the patch fixes that, i'd agree with it. |
| 23:40.50 | kpfleming | M15972 |
| 23:40.54 | MuffinMan | [acknowledged] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_dahdi 0015972: [patch] Dropping frame since I'm still dialing on Zap/... (resp. DAHDi/...) with DIGITAL calls reported by udosw (Karma: neutral) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15972 |
| 23:42.20 | kpfleming | i'm not sure i agree with that patch |
| 23:42.30 | kpfleming | the problem sounds like it is in dahdi, not in chan_dahdi |
| 23:42.46 | kpfleming | chan_dahdi should not be putting the dahdi channel into audio mode if it's not an audio call |
| 23:44.54 | alecdavis | I was only using the code that was there. Maybe it's a bigger problem... but with that code the patch fixes it. |
| 23:45.00 | kpfleming | sure |
| 23:45.05 | kpfleming | but it should not be necessary |
| 23:45.28 | kpfleming | if the channel in dahdi is in audio mode, that means it can be put into conferences and all other kinds of nasty stuff that shouldn't be allowed for digital calls |
| 23:48.11 | alecdavis | interesting senario. Normally I think a digital call to a speech destination would fail with 'incompatible destination' |
| 23:48.36 | kpfleming | it should, yes |
| 23:48.51 | kpfleming | but that's not what i'm takling about |
| 23:48.57 | kpfleming | i'm talking about down in dahdi itself, not in asterisk |
| 23:49.50 | kpfleming | anyway... let's try to ensure that the dahdi layer (below chan_dahdi) is doing the right things/not doing the wrong things for channels that are digital streams |
| 23:49.53 | kpfleming | i must go now... |
| 23:50.10 | alecdavis | same here. |
