| 00:15.26 | work|philipp64 | ok, filed bugs 15857 and 15858... |
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| 01:57.56 | leifmadsen | work|philipp64: that is my fault -- I'll fix that now |
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| 02:18.55 | work|philipp64 | leifmadsen: which is your fault? |
| 02:19.37 | leifmadsen | not having 1.6.1.6 in the bug tracker |
| 02:24.41 | work|philipp64 | ah. ok. I thought you meant you caused the two bugs. :-) |
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| 09:06.48 | mvanbaak | I see oej is back to chan_sip hacking |
| 09:07.07 | oej | yes, it's a disease... |
| 09:07.07 | mvanbaak | which makes me happy |
| 09:07.11 | oej | ;-) |
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| 10:18.26 | c4rg | yo |
| 10:18.53 | c4rg | what if I'll send 3 IAX voice each other after 1ms |
| 10:18.58 | c4rg | voice frames |
| 10:19.13 | c4rg | what will asterisk do then? |
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| 12:08.52 | oej | Hmm - my crazy branch actually works. |
| 12:08.55 | oej | Cool. |
| 12:09.02 | oej | Morning Leif! |
| 12:09.55 | leifmadsen | oej: morning! |
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| 12:15.49 | oej | wears a Toronto t-shirt today :-) |
| 12:20.50 | leifmadsen | w00t! |
| 12:21.00 | leifmadsen | and I'm going into downtown Toronto today! |
| 12:27.45 | oej | I tweeted a question for you. |
| 12:32.27 | leifmadsen | haha ok :) |
| 12:32.38 | leifmadsen | it would be better if it was in the comments so I don't lose it :) |
| 12:35.44 | leifmadsen | added it! |
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| 12:57.22 | oej | I once tried that with hints with multiple devices, but, well, it wasn't working as expected |
| 13:17.22 | oej | The DAHDI readme doesn't document which version of libpri to use... |
| 13:17.51 | oej | As of |
| 13:17.51 | oej | May 12, 2001, it has been tested work with NI-2, Nortel DMS-100, and |
| 13:17.52 | oej | Lucent 5E Custom protocols on switches from Nortel and Lucent. |
| 13:17.59 | oej | From the libpri readme. Feels old and nice. |
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| 13:18.15 | tzafrir_laptop | oej, technically dahdi shouldn't care about libpri |
| 13:18.22 | oej | ok |
| 13:18.24 | oej | thanks |
| 13:18.30 | tzafrir_laptop | That should be documented in Asterisk |
| 13:18.47 | oej | Well, I just checked DAHDI readme's |
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| 13:24.08 | oej | Calm and quiet here today... |
| 13:24.39 | Marquis42 | Now that's just inviting chaos to ensue. ;) |
| 13:25.21 | oej | Mr Olle E. Johansson has requested to delete his previous message. Accept or deny? |
| 13:25.47 | Marquis42 | Deny, I need an excuse in case I cause trouble later. :D |
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| 13:43.19 | Kobaz | the odbc module doesn't clean up old connections it seems |
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| 14:06.12 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody played with DKMS? |
| 14:06.41 | tzafrir_laptop | there's a pending patch for the Debian DAHDI package to support building with DKMS |
| 14:07.08 | tzafrir_laptop | One point I'm unhappy about is that it requires a spec file with the list of modules |
| 14:08.11 | oej | What is DKMS? |
| 14:08.24 | oej | found it |
| 14:08.53 | Kobaz | anyone else have issues where old odbc connections from asterisk aren't cleaned up? |
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| 14:16.59 | viraptor | hi, I'm trying to track down a bug in an older asterisk... does anyone remember any crashers in chan_sip that affected packet retransmission? (channel owner disappearing when it's still going through the list of packets) |
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| 14:49.18 | Kobaz | do you guys have unit tests? |
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| 14:55.21 | Corydon76-dig | Kobaz: all unit tests are CLI utilities, generally of the form <module> "test" <args> |
| 14:56.31 | Kobaz | what sort of code coverage is there? |
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| 15:12.42 | Kobaz | i take that as a maybe? |
| 15:12.53 | tzafrir_laptop | maybe |
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| 16:57.58 | work|philipp64 | anyone know whether there's an nf_conntrack_iax out there, or can the sip one handle both? |
| 16:58.40 | work|philipp64 | (I'm assuming that IAX is sufficiently like SIP to reuse the same parser guts...) |
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| 17:07.02 | jsmith | work|philipp64: I wouldn't expect the SIP one to work for IAX |
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| 17:07.20 | jsmith | work|philipp64: (and to be honest, I'm not sure anyone has written one for IAX) |
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| 17:12.30 | work|philipp64 | Corydon76-dig: did you have a look at 15858? |
| 17:13.26 | work|philipp64 | MuffinMan? |
| 17:13.51 | work|philipp64 | must be out baking muffins... |
| 17:14.00 | Qwell | M15858 |
| 17:14.02 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Core/Configuration 0015858: Revision 152765 introduces scoping difficulties in stdexten reported by pprindeville (Karma: +4.00) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15858 |
| 17:18.48 | work|philipp64 | how different are the two protocols? |
| 17:19.14 | work|philipp64 | from the starfish book, I got the impression that they were quite similar. |
| 17:19.31 | work|philipp64 | (which reminds me... is there a 1.6 version of the starfish book?) |
| 17:19.59 | leifmadsen | there is not |
| 17:20.22 | leifmadsen | we have intentions, but no time as of yet |
| 17:21.16 | leifmadsen | work|philipp64: they are similar perhaps from a high level user point of view in terms of their ability to both utilize voice codecs and the Internet to transport voice. |
| 17:21.51 | work|philipp64 | and at the bit level? |
| 17:22.02 | jsmith | work|philipp64: At the bit/byte level, they're totally different |
| 17:22.14 | jsmith | work|philipp64: Different methodologies, encodings, etc. |
| 17:24.52 | work|philipp64 | how easy is it to grovel through a packet to figure out what port/address the media stream will be? |
| 17:25.20 | file | the media stream isn't carried on a separate port/address |
| 17:25.27 | seanbright | ... in iax |
| 17:26.00 | seanbright | which is not pronounced eeks no matter how many people say otherwise |
| 17:26.14 | Qwell | seanbright: It says so in the RFC. |
| 17:26.30 | seanbright | eff the RFC |
| 17:26.36 | seanbright | yeah... i said it |
| 17:26.37 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:26.51 | seanbright | eye-axe ftw |
| 17:27.32 | putnopvut | Qwell: does it really say that in the RFC? |
| 17:27.40 | Qwell | putnopvut: probably not |
| 17:28.01 | putnopvut | shakes his fist at Qwell |
| 17:28.06 | putnopvut | is ashamed for being gullible |
| 17:30.13 | seanbright | putnopvut: did you know that the word 'gullible' is not in the dictionary? |
| 17:30.40 | putnopvut | seanbright: you don't sya |
| 17:30.54 | Qwell | seanbright: It actually isn't in OED |
| 17:31.18 | Qwell | sort of an easter egg they put in (or, took out, as it were) |
| 17:31.48 | putnopvut | seanbright: I'll save you the trouble and let you know that Qwell is full of shit. |
| 17:32.08 | seanbright | i'm aware |
| 17:32.10 | putnopvut | good |
| 17:32.22 | Qwell | it's totally on snopes |
| 17:32.24 | seanbright | did you mean in general or in this specific instance? |
| 17:33.14 | seanbright | i used to love snopes |
| 17:33.35 | seanbright | i wish they'd just charge 99 cents a month for membership instead of this ad supported crap |
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| 19:12.15 | seanbright | so this is either strange or i don't understand something about asterisk... |
| 19:12.32 | seanbright | i have a server with a handful of modules loaded |
| 19:12.41 | seanbright | one of which is app_mixmonitor.so |
| 19:13.20 | seanbright | so in dialplan i start mixmonitor on a channel, and then do a 'module show' at the CLI |
| 19:13.49 | seanbright | the 7 modules i have loaded show up, and under "Use Count" everything has at least a 1 except app_mixmonitor.so |
| 19:13.53 | seanbright | which has a use count of 0 |
| 19:14.49 | seanbright | is that because it doesn't "own" the channel? (just has datastores and audiohooks attached?) |
| 19:15.39 | file | UMMM, well, module referencing count handling like that is sometimes automagically done in the background (like dialplan applications have it done) and other times not |
| 19:16.07 | file | app_mixmonitor should be bumping up the reference count before it returns to the dialplan |
| 19:16.13 | seanbright | gotcha |
| 19:16.19 | file | and should be decrementing it when that thread ends |
| 19:16.28 | seanbright | yeah... a 'module unload app_mixmonitor.so' is killing the server |
| 19:22.09 | seanbright | tzafrir_laptop: is that asterisk trunk commit #1? |
| 19:22.22 | tzafrir_laptop | no. No. 2 |
| 19:22.24 | seanbright | ahh |
| 19:22.30 | seanbright | well welcome either way |
| 19:22.30 | seanbright | :) |
| 19:22.35 | tzafrir_laptop | First was yesterday with live_ast . |
| 19:22.40 | tzafrir_laptop | And thaks :-) |
| 19:23.16 | tzafrir_laptop | Now trying to figure the exact "backporting" procedure |
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| 19:24.09 | jsmith | tzafrir_laptop: http://www.asterisk.org/developers/svn-branching-merging should help |
| 19:24.34 | tzafrir_laptop | already read it. I think I figured it out |
| 19:35.34 | tzafrir_laptop | Hmmm. svnmerge is stuck with some merge |
| 19:37.31 | seanbright | oh |
| 19:38.05 | seanbright | add this to ~/.subversion/config |
| 19:38.14 | seanbright | under [miscellany] |
| 19:38.21 | seanbright | interactive-conflicts = no |
| 19:42.41 | tzafrir_laptop | Right. I have to disable it when working with svnmerge |
| 19:43.54 | seanbright | well if you only want it disabled with svnmerge you probably have to modify the py script to pass the appropriate command line flags |
| 19:44.45 | seanbright | svn merge --accept postpone |
| 19:44.47 | seanbright | something like that. |
| 19:48.55 | tzafrir_laptop | The upstream just uses --noninteractive (or something similar) which breaks the password prompt |
| 19:49.20 | seanbright | i've merged in a few changes manually to my local version to work better with svn 1.6 |
| 19:49.31 | seanbright | but i just turn off interactive conflicts across the board |
| 20:00.23 | tzafrir_laptop | I wish I could just use some sort of agent for that. |
| 20:00.50 | tzafrir_laptop | ssh-agent works nicely. But not with HTTPS certificate authentication |
| 20:10.25 | oej | What's the current policy for blocking in 1.6 branches? |
| 20:10.39 | oej | I noticed I've been lazy with blocking stuff |
| 20:12.35 | putnopvut | oej: for trunk-only issues, you only need to block in the latest 1.6.X branch, meaning that you only need to block in 1.6.2 |
| 20:13.19 | putnopvut | Other than that, always merge in the appropriate branches and block where the patch does not apply. |
| 20:15.27 | Kobaz | umm |
| 20:15.36 | Kobaz | main/utils.c is exactly the same as utils/utils.c |
| 20:16.18 | putnopvut | Yep |
| 20:16.42 | putnopvut | utils/utils.c is generated from the content in main/utils.c |
| 20:17.09 | Kobaz | ah okay |
| 20:17.23 | Kobaz | is that necessary? |
| 20:18.56 | oej | I was just going to ask about the reason for that waste of my hard disk space... |
| 20:19.02 | oej | Symbolic link or copy? |
| 20:19.24 | Kobaz | it's a copy |
| 20:19.37 | Kobaz | i was beating my head against a wall trying to figure out why my code wasn't running |
| 20:19.47 | Kobaz | i was editing utils/utils.c, and that's not what gets used |
| 20:19.51 | oej | There's a whole bunch of files being copied that way |
| 20:19.56 | oej | COuld propably be linked |
| 20:20.32 | oej | It's for the test apps that should propably move into tests now |
| 20:20.55 | oej | We have test apps in both utils and tests |
| 20:20.59 | oej | We need a cleaner! |
| 20:21.58 | putnopvut | is not a fan of the utils directory |
| 20:24.07 | oej | Ok we can form a club. The un-utils-club. |
| 20:25.32 | Kobaz | [Sep 9 16:25:25] WARNING[32121]: channel.c:1112 __ast_queue_frame: Exceptionally long voice queue length queuing to IAX2/branch-626 |
| 20:25.41 | Marquis42 | Hey, utils contains aelparse, and I <3 aelparse. :) The rest of it can go, though. |
| 20:25.45 | Kobaz | what might cause that? |
| 20:26.30 | putnopvut | Kobaz: Literally it means that frames are being queued, but nothing is consuming them. It may be that the thread which is supposed to consume them is blocked for some reason. |
| 20:26.44 | putnopvut | usually suspects autoservice, but that isn't always the case. |
| 20:26.49 | Kobaz | mmm |
| 20:27.12 | Marquis42 | oej: Huzzah for making Transfer() work! I will be abusing it soon enough I believe. |
| 20:27.14 | Kobaz | i have 6 calls over the same iax peer, and voice frames are getting dropped like nuts |
| 20:28.18 | oej | Yes, I just noticed that file had been working on it. I am very happy. Just fixed some small issues with file's code, but he's the brain behind it. |
| 20:28.39 | file | I did NOTHING! |
| 20:29.05 | Marquis42 | Excellent, then thanks to both of you. It actually solves a problem I've been working on related to the idea leifmadsen had yesterday with my XMPP PubSub branch and distributed queues. I can't stop thinking about that.... |
| 20:30.02 | leifmadsen | Marquis42: sorry! (not really) |
| 20:30.55 | Marquis42 | lol... No worries. It's fascinating, and if what I was already working on can be made all the more useful then I'm all for it. FWIW, I *think* I have an idea of how it can all work. I've gotta run now, but if you want to talk about it some ping me tomorrow. |
| 20:31.22 | leifmadsen | Marquis42: no problem! I'm doing a lot of business filing and end-of-year stuff (not fun) -- we'll chat tomorrow when I'm doing Asterisk stuff again! |
| 20:31.38 | Marquis42 | leifmadsen: Sounds good, talk to you then! |
| 20:38.19 | oej | file: Sorry, but then someone else has your commit credentials |
| 20:38.38 | oej | file: When are you flying to NH? |
| 20:38.44 | file | Saturday |
| 20:38.54 | tzafrir_laptop | wonders what people think about not starting the commit message with "Merge revision nnn" |
| 20:39.46 | oej | I'll arrive Sunday evening I guess. |
| 20:40.16 | oej | tzafrir_lap: Well, it makes life easier if you use the svnmergecommit message... |
| 20:41.27 | oej | file: How come that transfer() stuff wasn't integrated in at least 1.6.0? |
| 20:41.39 | file | I can not remember that far back. |
| 20:41.43 | oej | Was is too large an addition. |
| 20:41.56 | oej | file: Ok. I won't ask you to bring your backup-file on line. |
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| 23:06.25 | Kobaz | in asterisk-trunk, none of the help is working |
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| 23:38.39 | Kobaz | never mind, heh |
| 23:40.27 | Kobaz | competative |
| 23:40.29 | Kobaz | er |