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| 12:21.24 | eliel | morning all! |
| 12:22.39 | kpfleming | yes, yes it is |
| 12:27.25 | eliel | i am with flu, that is why it is not so good for me... |
| 12:28.01 | kpfleming | sorry to hear that |
| 12:32.34 | snuff-home | mm.. can't talk.. can code.. |
| 12:32.48 | snuff-home | sounds like a possible upside for asterisk ;) |
| 12:35.00 | eliel | heh |
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| 12:36.12 | snuff-home | now thinks tryin to move some smdi to ast_list.. instead of current astobjv1 |
| 12:36.18 | snuff-home | was a bad idea |
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| 12:55.00 | Curus | Is there a limit on hint length in the dial plan? |
| 12:56.35 | Curus | Apparently 79 characters |
| 13:03.42 | Curus | fgrep -r -w 80 is scary reading in the asterisk source |
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| 16:23.57 | seanbright | ok, i have a trivia question re: astobj2 |
| 16:24.08 | seanbright | in main/astobj2.c 'struct bucket' is used |
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| 16:24.34 | seanbright | yes a 'wcgrep "struct bucket"' returns only uses of it (and it's friend struct bucket_list) |
| 16:24.44 | seanbright | s/yes/yet/ |
| 16:25.48 | putnopvut | seanbright: that's because it's defined in an AST_LIST_HEAD_STATIC macro |
| 16:25.58 | putnopvut | sorry |
| 16:26.02 | putnopvut | AST_LIST_HEAD_NOLOCK |
| 16:26.33 | seanbright | looks |
| 16:27.15 | seanbright | ah. |
| 16:27.19 | seanbright | well then. |
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| 16:28.19 | seanbright | thanks, putnopvut. |
| 16:28.21 | seanbright | i heart you. |
| 16:32.05 | Juggie | <3 |
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| 17:05.09 | seanbright | is it kosher to use an AST_LIST lock to protect another variable? |
| 17:05.21 | seanbright | AST_LIST_LOCK(&whatever); |
| 17:05.27 | seanbright | some_unrelated_var = 1; |
| 17:05.35 | seanbright | AST_LIST_UNLOCK(&whatever); |
| 17:05.55 | seanbright | (i know it's allowed and works, but i'm wondering if it would be frowned upon) |
| 17:10.41 | putnopvut | seanbright: I think kpfleming actually did that recently in his dynamic logger levels patch. |
| 17:12.56 | seanbright | splendid. |
| 17:13.01 | seanbright | you're 2 for 2. |
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| 17:50.55 | pheller | howdy folks. I've added some code to app_meetme such that an Admin Pin is what identifies the Marked User (rather than being identified by a specific extension) Anyhow, I seem to have introduced a bug or two in the process of doing this, and I'm about to port my changes to 1.6.2.0 b2 and debug. Just wondered if anyone is aware if such an option has already been added and my work is only a duplication of effort...? |
| 18:02.23 | leifmadsen | pheller: I'd just compile 1.6.2.0 and check to see if it exists :) |
| 18:09.22 | kpfleming | seanbright: yes, a lock is a lock... just because it happens to be inside another structure does not mean you can't use it |
| 18:09.58 | seanbright | kpfleming: thanks for confirming |
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| 18:24.33 | pheller | leifmadsen: well, I looked through the code and it doesn't seem that functionality has been added, but I thought I'd ask here in case I misunderstood something... |
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| 18:41.44 | Corydon76-dig | pheller: meetme in general has suffered from features that were added when there was a perfectly good way to do them from the dialplan |
| 18:41.57 | Corydon76-dig | pheller: and I think this is one of those features. ;-) |
| 18:43.13 | Corydon76-dig | Combine Read with func_odbc and you have a good way of querying whether a user should enter as a marked user or not |
| 18:43.33 | Corydon76-dig | assuming you keep that information in a database (which is a logical way to do it) |
| 18:43.45 | Corydon76-dig | or the DB() function, if you used astdb |
| 18:44.42 | Corydon76-dig | pheller: does that make sense? Use dialplan logic and avoid coding errors |
| 18:46.05 | pheller | but, the determination as to whether the user is "marked" is made by the entry of the PIN, collected within the meetme app.... |
| 18:46.34 | pheller | that is the functionality I'm trying to add.. (well, have added, but am now debugging) |
| 18:46.35 | Corydon76-dig | pheller: yes, but currently whether a user is marked is determined by an option flag |
| 18:46.37 | jsmith-teaching | pheller: I think what Corydon76-dig is trying to say is to use the Read() application and dialplan logic to decide whether or not the caller is the marked user |
| 18:46.57 | jsmith-teaching | pheller: Instead of using the pin options on the meetme application |
| 18:47.04 | Corydon76-dig | so you evaluate logic to determine that and optionally pass that flag (or not) based upon that logic |
| 18:47.22 | pheller | yes, but I've been directed to make asterisk work exactly like the generally available reservationless conference bridges |
| 18:47.53 | pheller | that is, user dials in, enters conf #, then enters participant pin or admin pin. participants are on hold until the admin pin is entered. |
| 18:48.15 | Corydon76-dig | pheller: so you do the pin entry from outside Meetme |
| 18:49.18 | pheller | ok, I see what you're getting at. |
| 18:49.53 | pheller | I guess I see where "meetme" was originally just to combine and relay audio from several channels, but a lot of the conference control has moved into it. |
| 18:51.00 | Corydon76-dig | Right, and the places where it's integrated are proper places for features. |
| 18:51.27 | Corydon76-dig | but pins aren't really that way, just a feature that someone found convenient to add |
| 18:52.08 | Corydon76-dig | So you always pass the W flag to a conference, but optionally pass the 'A' flag or not, depending upon dialplan logic |
| 18:52.22 | pheller | Yeah, and honestly, the change I did took all of 5 lines of C. Which seems easier to me than learning the nuances of prompting for stuff in the dialplan.... |
| 18:52.47 | Corydon76-dig | pheller: wait until their next customization request... |
| 18:53.51 | pheller | Yeah, good point. It just seemed to be a logical way of going about it to me, given the PIN collection code was already folded into meetme |
| 18:54.56 | Corydon76-dig | Take a good look at the scheduling features of meetme in 1.6.0... allows you to change pins on the fly, without ever reloading... |
| 18:55.21 | Corydon76-dig | Well, for new conferences, anyway |
| 18:55.44 | Corydon76-dig | existing conferences stay intact |
| 18:56.33 | Corydon76-dig | Meetme is one of the applications where Realtime works in completely expected ways without myriad hacks and options |
| 18:58.03 | Corydon76-dig | Voicemail is another |
| 18:58.52 | Qwell | agents... |
| 18:59.20 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: chan_agent or app_queue? |
| 18:59.25 | jsmith-teaching | Everything in Asterisk is a hack... NEXT! |
| 18:59.27 | jsmith-teaching | is only kidding |
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| 19:00.40 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: exactly. |
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| 20:05.51 | seanbright | R272 |
| 20:05.55 | MuffinMan | [R272] Sanely handle AMI connections during startup [Pending] Submitted by seanbright => https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/272/ |
| 20:06.04 | seanbright | flames welcome. |
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| 20:25.48 | Corydon76-dig | loads up his flamethrower |
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| 20:47.45 | leifmadsen | seanbright: omg! why are you so stupid! |
| 20:47.47 | leifmadsen | </flames> |
| 20:48.58 | seanbright | that was a drive-by flame |
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| 22:22.58 | file | MuffinMan is going offline for maintenance now. Everyone say goodbye! |
| 22:23.06 | seanbright | MuffinMan: goodbye! |
| 22:23.11 | seanbright | commit asterisk 123232 |
| 22:23.16 | MuffinMan | [123232] Committed by on : |
| 22:23.16 | MuffinMan | .. http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk?view=rev&revision=123232 |
| 22:23.29 | seanbright | lame. |
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| 22:56.25 | paravoid | I began working on Debian's asterisk package after quite a while |
| 22:56.26 | paravoid | and I have to say |
| 22:56.31 | paravoid | I'm *very* impressed |
| 22:57.13 | paravoid | BRI support, xmldoc, documented api changes, timerfd for the timing source, a much much better release schedule |
| 22:57.41 | paravoid | I've heard most of these over time but when you put them all these together, it's very impressive |
| 22:57.52 | paravoid | not to mention merging some of our long-standing patches |
| 22:58.22 | paravoid | I'm not sure what changed, but whatever it was I have to say: congrats, keep it up, thanks a lot for making our lives easier. :-) |
| 23:01.00 | paravoid | also, merging of oslec, w-o-w :-) |
| 23:04.27 | jsmith-teaching | paravoid: We aim to please (even if it does take us a while) |
| 23:04.48 | paravoid | heh |
| 23:04.53 | paravoid | something's surely changed |
| 23:04.56 | leifmadsen | I think he's talking about the deb pkgs specifically? |
| 23:05.10 | leifmadsen | because those are maintained by someone externally right? |
| 23:05.19 | paravoid | leifmadsen: no, I'm one of the maintainers of the debs :-) |
| 23:05.28 | jsmith-teaching | leifmadsen: No, I think paravoid *is* one of the maintainers |
| 23:05.36 | leifmadsen | oh gotcha :) |
| 23:05.39 | paravoid | did most of the work of the 1.4 era along with tzafrir |
| 23:05.47 | leifmadsen | paravoid: do you just mean the release schedule now? |
| 23:06.18 | leifmadsen | oh I see -- you just mean everything in general :) |
| 23:06.24 | paravoid | right :-) |
| 23:06.27 | leifmadsen | does the scroll-up thing :) |
| 23:06.56 | jsmith-teaching | leifmadsen: How was dinner? |
| 23:07.02 | paravoid | you should have seen my face when I saw the doc/api-*-changes |
| 23:07.04 | leifmadsen | pretty delicious! |
| 23:07.04 | jsmith-teaching | is just getting ready to leave the training center and head to the hotel |
| 23:07.23 | leifmadsen | jsmith-teaching: coolio -- I might start looking at the last few things that need to be converted to XML |
| 23:07.32 | paravoid | we've been maintaining quite a few of external plugins |
| 23:07.40 | paravoid | not to mention bristuff :-) |
| 23:07.52 | jsmith-teaching | leifmadsen: OK... in the meantime, http://jsmith.fedorapeople.org/AstXML/out8.html |
| 23:08.12 | paravoid | now if only if there was an ABI gurantee of some kind |
| 23:08.47 | paravoid | hrm, I really should find the time to rewrite the dynamic loader from scratch |
| 23:09.15 | leifmadsen | paravoid: ABI is kinda guaranteed within a branch I believe |
| 23:09.26 | leifmadsen | i.e. it should only change between 1.6.x and not within the 1.6.x.y's |
| 23:09.30 | JunK-Y | paravoid: may i ask the re-write? |
| 23:09.50 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: I'm going to the Montreal Jazz Festival! |
| 23:09.55 | paravoid | JunK-Y: I've outlined the problems in the current implementation in an old mail of mine |
| 23:10.00 | paravoid | wait. |
| 23:10.30 | JunK-Y | leifmadsen: nice, nice! |
| 23:10.36 | JunK-Y | wanna stay at junky's holte? |
| 23:10.37 | JunK-Y | hotel |
| 23:10.59 | paravoid | oh, hrm, it was a personal mail to jcolp |
| 23:11.22 | JunK-Y | want to share it to asterisk-dev mailing? |
| 23:11.43 | paravoid | it's quite old (Oct 2007) and I'm not sure if the issues still stand |
| 23:11.52 | paravoid | wouldn't want to be embarassed :-) |
| 23:11.55 | *** join/#asterisk-dev MuffinMan (n=muffinma@asterisk/issue-tracker-bot/muffinman) |
| 23:12.54 | leifmadsen | paravoid: you could just send it as, "This email was sent a couple of years ago, so the issues probably don't still exist, but I thought I'd send it out for confirmation of issues I had previously, and to make sure they were all dealt with." |
| 23:13.17 | paravoid | oh, r183241 |
| 23:13.20 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: we're actually gonna stay at Le Western Montreal |
| 23:13.25 | paravoid | at least one of the issues got solved |
| 23:13.33 | JunK-Y | leifmadsen: we? |
| 23:13.34 | leifmadsen | asterisk commit 183241 |
| 23:13.42 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: my girlfriend and I |
| 23:13.47 | JunK-Y | which one? |
| 23:13.50 | leifmadsen | commit asterisk 183241 |
| 23:13.52 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: lol |
| 23:13.54 | JunK-Y | le western at dorval? |
| 23:13.56 | MuffinMan | [183241] Committed by russell on 2009-03-19T17:52:52.982563Z: Remove the use of RTLD_NOLOAD, as it is not behaving like expected. |
| 23:13.56 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: Danielle :) |
| 23:13.56 | MuffinMan | .. |
| 23:13.56 | MuffinMan | .. http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk?view=rev&revision=183241 |
| 23:14.12 | JunK-Y | (i hope for ya, its not this one!) |
| 23:14.14 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: check my facebook profile pics -- she is the blonde |
| 23:14.24 | paravoid | "RTLD_NOLOAD | RTLD_NOW | RTLD_LOCAL after a RTLD_LAZY | RTLD_LOCAL is a |
| 23:14.24 | paravoid | no-op. |
| 23:14.24 | paravoid | RTLD_NOLOAD is for promoting to RTLD_LOCAL/GLOBAL only. You can |
| 23:14.24 | paravoid | "promote" to RTLD_NOW by re-calling dlopen() (and bumping the reference |
| 23:14.25 | paravoid | count) without closing it first." |
| 23:14.28 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: it's a new one downtown |
| 23:14.33 | paravoid | that was in my mail :-) |
| 23:14.33 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: I think in old montreal |
| 23:14.36 | JunK-Y | yeah, i remember her now, we got so much fun together last week. |
| 23:14.41 | JunK-Y | great! |
| 23:15.23 | jsmith-teaching | leifmadsen: I thought *you* were the blonde... |
| 23:15.25 | jsmith-teaching | ducks |
| 23:15.53 | paravoid | mailing |
| 23:24.26 | paravoid | oh and I have an answer about that h.323 segfault :-) |
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| 23:47.43 | paravoid | hrm, weird, inbanddisconnect doesn't work for me |