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| 11:12.34 | nfi|ermes | i'd like to be notified when a new message is leaved in my voicemail |
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| 12:03.43 | jozza | hi, i tried twice to get my license accepted, why doesn't it get accepted? |
| 12:08.29 | Corydon76-dig | Was it rejected or is it simply pending? |
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| 12:20.09 | jozza | rejected twice |
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| 12:34.47 | jozza | it was rejected twice |
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| 12:56.28 | jozza | hi, i tried twice to get my license accepted, why doesn't it get accepted? it was rejected twice |
| 12:56.44 | russellb | I presume you got an email both times? |
| 12:56.57 | jozza | none of the times |
| 12:57.27 | jozza | no answer no explanation, nothing |
| 12:57.48 | russellb | you should have received an email that explained the reason to your email address you put on your account. |
| 12:58.26 | jozza | but i didn't and my email is correct |
| 12:58.45 | jozza | oh wait |
| 12:58.47 | russellb | Okay. Email me your mantis username and I'll find out the reason for you. |
| 12:59.00 | jozza | strange address i have specified |
| 12:59.09 | jozza | let me check |
| 12:59.13 | russellb | i see. |
| 13:02.11 | eliel | good morning, today is THE day for students in gsoc |
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| 13:03.27 | russellb | eliel: one of the days, not THE day :-) |
| 13:04.10 | eliel | s/THE day/ONE of THE days/ |
| 13:04.18 | eliel | :) |
| 13:04.26 | russellb | there we go! |
| 13:04.32 | russellb | getting your app in early? |
| 13:05.14 | eliel | no, I think I will submit it tomorrow |
| 13:05.46 | eliel | I don't want to make any mistake... |
| 13:07.10 | jozza | i got the emails on whats wrong with the license and i fixed it. Also changed my email. I hope it will get accepted now |
| 13:07.31 | russellb | Okay. |
| 13:07.43 | jozza | so thx ... |
| 13:07.56 | russellb | you're welcome. |
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| 13:12.30 | swathanthran | eliel: whats that you are working on? |
| 13:12.38 | swathanthran | is shyam_k |
| 13:12.56 | swathanthran | 's heart pumps fastly.. as THE DAY nears!:) |
| 13:13.02 | swathanthran | ;-) |
| 13:13.58 | eliel | swathanthran: I will try to apply for the "data get" project I think bbryant will try to apply to the "data put". Check out the ideas page |
| 13:14.25 | swathanthran | cool i had a read on that at the ideas page.. looked cool! |
| 13:14.49 | swathanthran | yeah.. |
| 13:15.05 | eliel | swathanthran: yes, it looks like a good idea (not mine) |
| 13:16.21 | swathanthran | the app is not yet there right? /me check's the watch..:) |
| 13:16.44 | eliel | no, I think it will be at 19:00 utc |
| 13:16.59 | swathanthran | now that they have changed their webapp.. got a bit confused.. |
| 13:17.07 | eliel | that is that we will need to wait 6 hours more... |
| 13:17.43 | swathanthran | 6 more hours of tension free preperation.. |
| 13:17.43 | eliel | he |
| 13:18.00 | swathanthran | ;-) |
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| 14:54.18 | c0rnoTa | please tell me, 'progzone' option in chan_dahdi.conf operates with dsp.c? |
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| 15:37.50 | jpeeler | Deeewayne: ping |
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| 15:39.59 | Deeewayne | jpeeler, pong |
| 15:40.09 | jpeeler | are there any chan_dahdi differences between issue3450 and your pinecowbell branch? i updated issue3450 before i knew what pinecowbell was for |
| 15:46.45 | Deeewayne | since you updated issue3450, just stay with that. There isn't anything in pinecowbell that needs to go into the issue3450 branch |
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| 15:47.36 | jpeeler | ok, thanks. knowing that saves me a lot of work since i don't know a good way to compare branches without having them both updated |
| 15:48.01 | Deeewayne | I can help you out w/ that branch too if it is a background task for you |
| 15:48.43 | jpeeler | it's not, i've just been out since last week |
| 15:49.04 | jpeeler | but i do welcome the help and probably will have lots of questions soon :) |
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| 15:54.47 | Deeewayne | jpeeler, I think the next step in that project is to create an array in libpri that is checked before a net channel sends a RESTART message and before a cpe channel passes a RESTART up to asterisk, and a callback to set the channel index in the libpri array from chan_dahdi |
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| 15:58.23 | jpeeler | Deeewayne: thanks, i left my notes from speaking last time at home |
| 15:59.48 | jpeeler | and the best place to do that work would be in the servicemessages branch? |
| 15:59.54 | Deeewayne | yes |
| 16:01.11 | russellb | Deeewayne: thanks for helping get this stuff sorted out :-) |
| 16:01.17 | Deeewayne | once you have the array and callback ready, use the callback in mkintf() after checking the AstDB to update the array. If a b-chan is not in the AstDB it is in-service |
| 16:01.20 | Deeewayne | russellb, no problem |
| 16:02.03 | Deeewayne | then you can do the proper checking in libpri and remove the excessive AstDB checks in chan_dahdi |
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| 16:07.02 | denon | so, I'm trying to figure out .. what's the appeal of chan_skype if skype is doing skypeforsip? |
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| 16:52.54 | russellb | wonders if he would get flamed for suggesting that the coding guidelines be updated to be more explicit about a line length requirement |
| 16:52.54 | russellb | and require that all new code follow said requirement. |
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| 16:54.10 | PDani | hi |
| 16:54.21 | kpfleming | 20 characters? |
| 16:55.01 | Corydon76-lap | russellb: I try to make actual code lines follow that, but for some reason, I dislike when function definitions break between arguments |
| 16:55.34 | Corydon76-lap | but then again, I also try for 80 columns, not 90 |
| 16:55.35 | PDani | is there a way make livestreams from conversations in asterisk? i know about mixmonitor->wav, but i couldn't find any solution for livestreaming |
| 16:55.41 | kpfleming | some of them are very hard read if you don't split them |
| 16:55.52 | kpfleming | PDani: #asterisk please |
| 16:55.58 | russellb | I can live with 90. |
| 16:56.09 | russellb | just not 300 |
| 16:56.12 | kpfleming | yeah, most people have widely screens now |
| 16:56.31 | Corydon76-lap | russellb: 90 drives me up the wall when I'm working on a computer without X or vfb |
| 16:56.42 | russellb | Like, I shouldn't have to span firefox across both of my 20" widescreen displays to view this code review without lines wrapping and becoming unreadable |
| 16:56.45 | kpfleming | so... what's with this Doxygen \pre tag? never seen that one before |
| 16:56.52 | russellb | kpfleming: pre-condition |
| 16:57.07 | leifmadsen | russellb: heh... agreed. It should fit on my 15" laptop monitor :) |
| 16:57.07 | russellb | something that must be true before calling the function |
| 16:57.09 | kpfleming | well... more guidelines stuff i suppose |
| 16:57.27 | kpfleming | janitor projects to improve the doxygen docs would be nice if we have people to work on them |
| 16:57.36 | Corydon76-lap | With our older hardware, X/fb made it near impossible to do anything but 80x25 |
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| 16:58.07 | russellb | Similarly, there is \post for documenting postconditions |
| 16:58.15 | russellb | or, side effects of the function |
| 16:58.26 | putnopvut | \post segfaults every time |
| 16:58.32 | russellb | o.O |
| 16:58.32 | kpfleming | \post may cause insomnia, dry mouth, pregnancy |
| 16:58.45 | russellb | O.o |
| 16:59.23 | PDani | i'm asking because if there's not yet support for it, do you think it would be a good summerofcode project? i'm pretty unexperienced in asterisk, so i'm just wondering for now... |
| 16:59.29 | Corydon76-lap | Virgin birth ftw |
| 16:59.41 | kpfleming | PDani: there is app_ices |
| 16:59.58 | russellb | You can also hook into a conversation using Jack |
| 17:00.04 | russellb | and then connect a streaming app to it via Jack |
| 17:00.29 | russellb | what streaming app can do that? I dont' know, but Jack is pretty common :-) |
| 17:00.44 | PDani | hm |
| 17:01.05 | PDani | thx, i will check them |
| 17:01.11 | russellb | okay! |
| 17:01.17 | seanbright | really huge image of all of the CLI commands -> http://seanbright.com/viztest.png |
| 17:01.24 | russellb | If you're interested in SoC, and want to talk about any other ideas, feel free to ping me directly |
| 17:01.30 | russellb | PDani: ^^ |
| 17:01.41 | russellb | PDani: other project mentors are in here too |
| 17:01.53 | PDani | thanks! |
| 17:02.29 | leifmadsen | seanbright: wtf... |
| 17:02.32 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:02.38 | seanbright | was bored this weekend |
| 17:02.55 | leifmadsen | ya... |
| 17:03.12 | seanbright | it's generated though. it's not like i laid those out by hand :) |
| 17:03.24 | PDani | i have to go now, bye |
| 17:03.25 | leifmadsen | I hope not :) |
| 17:03.32 | Corydon76-lap | leifmadsen: somewhere, I have a libgd mapping script |
| 17:03.45 | seanbright | really? |
| 17:03.52 | seanbright | i wish i had known that |
| 17:03.53 | seanbright | heh |
| 17:04.16 | Corydon76-lap | seanbright: yeah, wrote it originally for VCCH to do call volumes based upon CDR data |
| 17:04.37 | Corydon76-lap | Helped people plan whether they needed to invest in more lines |
| 17:05.28 | Corydon76-lap | Basically made a huge array of every single second within a day, then mapped each call into the array, so we could plot simultaneous calls |
| 17:05.51 | Corydon76-lap | Used different colors for each day, to be plotted on the same graph |
| 17:06.34 | Corydon76-lap | I can ask Howard for a copy of it, if you'd like to adapt it for another project |
| 17:07.06 | Corydon76-lap | Oh, and it used auto-ranging for both the X and Y axes |
| 17:07.24 | kpfleming | yes, that would be a very popular tool |
| 17:07.31 | seanbright | ah. i was just trying to map out all of the CLI commands :) |
| 17:08.10 | seanbright | less useful but cooler looking -> http://seanbright.com/vizneato.png |
| 17:08.30 | Corydon76-lap | You tell it the size of the image, the size of the font, and it calculated the size of the graph (minus the left and bottom margins) and set the scale used, based upon the high and low values |
| 17:10.05 | Corydon76-lap | I wrote another one like that back at booksamillion.com, then rewrote it from scratch for VCCH. |
| 17:12.39 | seanbright | considers a 'dialplan generate viz' command |
| 17:12.53 | seanbright | reconsiders and goes to get lunch |
| 17:13.03 | Corydon76-lap | seanbright: mine was 100% web-based |
| 17:13.17 | seanbright | Corydon76-lap: yeah i've generated reports with gd before |
| 17:13.33 | Corydon76-lap | One script, generating both HTML and gd png |
| 17:13.39 | seanbright | yessir |
| 17:13.52 | seanbright | back when i was writing CGIs in C |
| 17:14.17 | Corydon76-lap | Ah, I wrote mine in Perl |
| 17:14.51 | seanbright | excellent |
| 17:16.25 | seanbright | graphviz is pretty sweet |
| 17:16.41 | seanbright | does all of the layout for you |
| 17:16.59 | seanbright | assuming you want to lay out graphs, anyway. |
| 17:19.58 | Corydon76-lap | Found an archive of it |
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| 17:33.50 | JunK-Y | yo! |
| 17:40.53 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: yo! |
| 17:44.12 | JunK-Y | whats up leif? |
| 17:44.27 | leifmadsen | JunK-Y: not much... just working on the bug tracker right now, doing triage |
| 17:45.49 | JunK-Y | cool cool. |
| 17:46.04 | JunK-Y | btw, congrats for ur "new" position |
| 17:46.11 | JunK-Y | we didnt have time to talk before. |
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| 17:47.16 | leifmadsen | :D |
| 17:47.20 | leifmadsen | thanks ;) |
| 17:49.00 | JunK-Y | shit, that old offspring album is so good, so great to program! |
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| 17:50.36 | JunK-Y | leif: tomorrow i start the asterisk class at university |
| 17:51.05 | leifmadsen | nice! |
| 17:53.12 | Qwell | there's an Asterisk class at your uni? |
| 17:55.55 | putnopvut | I love when I read a code review for some new feature and find a bug in existing code :) |
| 17:57.12 | kpfleming | we have no shortage of those |
| 17:57.48 | putnopvut | Found a memory leak in res_monitor.c |
| 17:58.04 | Corydon76-lap | redunkculous |
| 17:58.31 | Corydon76-lap | blames the hardware |
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| 18:11.18 | eliel | bbryant: ping |
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| 19:20.22 | Deeewayne | kpfleming, is disclaimed code uploaded to a mantis issue, but not merged into Asterisk by Digium, available to asterisk users under the same terms as if Digium merged the patch into Asterisk? |
| 19:20.46 | kpfleming | hmm |
| 19:21.05 | kpfleming | i don't know that anyone has ever asked that question before :-) |
| 19:21.14 | Deeewayne | yay! |
| 19:21.36 | kpfleming | i believe the answer is yes, by it being publicly available on bugs.digium.com it is being distributed by Digium, but there is no clear license attached |
| 19:21.45 | kpfleming | that's something we will have to address, i believe |
| 19:22.12 | kpfleming | without an explicit license statement, there is *no* license, which means nobody has any permissions to use the patch *except* Digium and the poster |
| 19:22.13 | Deeewayne | I was hoping the answer was yes, but the permission agreement wasn't clear |
| 19:23.03 | kpfleming | so the safe thing to do is not distribute or incorporate those patches until we get something done there |
| 19:23.13 | Deeewayne | ok, thanks |
| 19:23.24 | Corydon76-lap | Deeewayne: I suspect that in general, the safe way to go would be to request a license from the originator |
| 19:24.04 | Corydon76-lap | Since we don't request an exclusive license from the author, that should be fine |
| 19:24.05 | Deeewayne | Corydon76-lap, I agree |
| 19:27.02 | Corydon76-lap | For that matter, it's not clear that even using SVN code is kosher under a strict reading of copyright |
| 19:27.55 | Corydon76-lap | Generally, it requires a specific act of publishing the code with a license, which may or may not be engendered when you do an SVN checkout |
| 19:28.33 | kpfleming | it's there in every branch |
| 19:28.45 | kpfleming | if someone checks out a file from 'inside' the branch, that branch's license still applies |
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| 19:29.02 | kpfleming | plus each file has a reference to the license, or should |
| 19:29.53 | Corydon76-lap | kpfleming: I'm not saying that we'd sue anybody, just that under a strict interpretation, it's not clear. |
| 19:30.19 | kpfleming | why not? the license statement is right there in each .c file |
| 19:30.50 | Corydon76-lap | Does a checkout of SVN constitute a publication of the code by the authors? |
| 19:31.06 | kpfleming | of course! the copyright holder is the one publishing the code via svn |
| 19:31.22 | kpfleming | how is it any different from placing the .c files on a web site served by apache? |
| 19:32.02 | Corydon76-lap | It may be different when publishing an archive containing the unit |
| 19:32.51 | Corydon76-lap | since the archive is a container with both the code and the license. |
| 19:33.31 | Corydon76-lap | I know this is kind of pedantic, but so is the law. |
| 19:33.33 | file | stares |
| 19:33.57 | wedhorn | kpfleming: you may want to address the licencing of patches sooner rather than later. Most developers expand on other developers patches when fixing bugs, which strictly speaking would not be kosher. |
| 19:34.26 | kpfleming | yes, i know... it needs to go on the list of stuff to address |
| 19:34.35 | Corydon76-lap | wedhorn: unless they're acting as agents of Digium |
| 19:34.52 | wedhorn | yeah, but a lot of us aren't |
| 19:34.58 | wedhorn | I think |
| 19:35.29 | Corydon76-lap | Again, more pedantry about the law |
| 19:37.07 | Corydon76-lap | I suspect if the developer had SVN rights, she would be seen as acting as an agent of Digium |
| 19:37.13 | Corydon76-lap | but IANAL |
| 19:38.32 | wedhorn | I don't and I've submitted patches which are predominantly other developers code |
| 19:40.00 | JunK-Y | ive a weird problem here: when im trying to make a dial (from src), its coring |
| 19:40.04 | JunK-Y | (gdb) bt |
| 19:40.06 | JunK-Y | #0 create_addr (peername=0x400f10c4 "astmtl01", c=0x0, sin=0x400f1440, cai=0x400f1130) at chan_iax2.c:2889 |
| 19:41.13 | JunK-Y | im kinda out of idea, since, the dial im using is totaly valid in the dialplan, but when calling it from my app_ its core. |
| 19:41.37 | russellb | sounds like a problem in your app :-) |
| 19:43.08 | Corydon76-lap | JunK-Y: c=NULL looks suspect |
| 19:48.58 | JunK-Y | i might have found something. |
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| 22:47.00 | bbryant | eliel: delayed pong |
| 22:47.09 | bbryant | ah, hey's no longer around |
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| 23:22.02 | denon | glares at asterisk |
| 23:22.08 | denon | 0 active channels, 3 active calls |
| 23:22.12 | denon | you're seriously confused, mr asterisk |
| 23:22.56 | jsmith | Gee... you think? |
| 23:23.04 | jsmith | Maybe they're channel-less calss? |
| 23:23.08 | jsmith | s/calss/calls/ |
| 23:23.15 | denon | nah, no active calls |
| 23:23.38 | denon | Ive gotta upgrade this install .. it does lotsa weird stuff that I think/hope is fixed |
| 23:23.56 | denon | like calling certain PRIs, it doesnt always detect that the remote side has picked up .. so it doesnt send my audio |
| 23:24.08 | denon | makes for embarrassing moments, "hello? hello?" and finally hang up |
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