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| 00:55.35 | tzanger | it's a sruffell |
| 01:00.07 | sruffell | one of many apparently. |
| 01:47.16 | tzanger | heh |
| 01:47.30 | leifmadsen | snaps |
| 01:47.59 | leifmadsen | hmmmmm... so I can override a text-align inside <td> on IE, but not FireFox or Safari.. ugh |
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| 01:56.04 | Juggie | override w/ what. |
| 02:00.06 | seanbright | leifmadsen: probably because you are using text-align incorrectly. |
| 02:00.36 | seanbright | e.g. to try and align a block element instead of an inline one |
| 02:03.00 | leifmadsen | hmmmmm.... perhaps |
| 02:03.09 | leifmadsen | is the least capable web designer he knows |
| 02:03.55 | leifmadsen | oh there we go! |
| 02:04.44 | seanbright | second to least capable, now. |
| 02:07.26 | leifmadsen | heh |
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| 02:21.52 | Juggie | figured you would of learned html by now lmadsen! |
| 02:24.13 | leifmadsen | I've avoided it :) |
| 02:24.24 | leifmadsen | I suck at graphics, so never did much web development |
| 02:24.32 | leifmadsen | most of my html skills are circa 1998 |
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| 08:41.11 | nfi|ermes | i use externnotify parameter in voicemail.conf; is there a way to be notified on ly when a new message is arrived, and not when someone log in tho the voicemail ??? should i modify the source code ?? |
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| 09:55.39 | mvanbaak | meh, astricon in glendale again eh ? |
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| 11:13.28 | jdjurici | hi everybody |
| 11:13.43 | jdjurici | thought someone could point me a little bit more for asterisk realtime documentation |
| 11:13.47 | jdjurici | for version 1.6 |
| 11:18.00 | mvanbaak | for development or to configure your system ? |
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| 11:26.04 | synthetiq | what is the most optimal hangup function to use to make sure a channel is cleared..... |
| 11:26.27 | synthetiq | ast_softhangup / ast_softhangup_nolock sometimes does not truely hang up he channel for me |
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| 11:28.00 | jdjurici | mvanbaak> for both, mostly for information how to tell sip channel to read and write all real time information to db |
| 11:28.34 | jdjurici | mvanbaak> ie for locations register of dynamic users |
| 11:29.21 | jdjurici | mvanbaak>mostly it would be ha project so that other machine knows exactly everything the old one knew... |
| 11:29.31 | synthetiq | (or rather it is hung up, but the functions to clear the channel from memory , or dont seem to happen) |
| 11:29.37 | synthetiq | im usign asterisk 1.4 |
| 11:29.46 | synthetiq | and see otehr fucntions like ast_hangup |
| 11:29.48 | synthetiq | other |
| 11:34.08 | mvanbaak | jdjurici: if it's not info for actually changing the sourcecode of asterisk you can best ask in #asterisk |
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| 11:43.50 | jdjurici | mvanbaak> I ned to get the docs of how does it internally work to see if there is point in developing |
| 11:45.22 | jdjurici | mvanbaak> Im just asking for directions, asked few days ago on "asterisk, but no luck |
| 11:47.28 | mvanbaak | jdjurici: for internal documentation: http://www.asterisk.org/developers/documentation |
| 11:51.46 | jdjurici | thanks m8 |
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| 13:03.43 | bartpbx | hello |
| 13:04.16 | bartpbx | anyone has a solution for implementing something like sip rtsavesysname for iax clients? |
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| 14:29.43 | russellb | putnopvut: I'm not sure I understand your comment about tmp2 in chan_local.c |
| 14:45.26 | russellb | putnopvut: thanks for the review! |
| 14:46.19 | putnopvut | not a problem |
| 14:47.28 | russellb | I'd like to make another pass on the 8824 review today, depending on how my project with The_Boy_Wonder goes |
| 14:47.41 | putnopvut | All righty. |
| 14:48.23 | file | russellb: that! |
| 14:48.36 | russellb | file: WHAT |
| 14:48.50 | file | russellb: I'm interested! |
| 14:49.07 | russellb | file: ORLY |
| 14:49.21 | file | russellb: yes! |
| 14:49.37 | file | russellb: that is all. |
| 14:50.47 | russellb | file: it's time for me to learn some oprofile foo! |
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| 15:33.26 | Qwell | bkw_: O.o |
| 15:35.53 | bkw_ | :P |
| 15:36.03 | bkw_ | sorry was playing with something in another channel :P |
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| 17:04.24 | eliel | russellb: if i have a tree, do you think it is neccesary (for performance) to use ao2 for the list of childrens of a node, or using AST_LIST is enough? |
| 17:06.02 | seanbright | do you need reference counting for the child list? |
| 17:07.30 | eliel | mmmm, yes.. I am doing that manually... |
| 17:08.00 | seanbright | ao2 to the rescue |
| 17:09.39 | eliel | thanks |
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| 18:06.05 | seanbright | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.12 | seanbright | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.24 | seanbright | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.31 | seanbright | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.04 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: I need you to put everything on the back burner |
| 18:13.16 | putnopvut | tip: |
| 18:13.27 | putnopvut | never ever press the escape key when writing a review on reviewboard. |
| 18:13.37 | putnopvut | stupid vim habits |
| 18:13.48 | jamessan | tip: use vim to edit textfields :) |
| 18:14.03 | putnopvut | ooh, not bad :) |
| 18:16.03 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: OTOH, you could have pressed Ctrl-X Ctrl-C and exited your browser |
| 18:16.14 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: lol |
| 18:28.03 | seanbright | it would have asked if he wanted to save changes though |
| 18:28.08 | seanbright | not to be a buzzkill |
| 18:29.08 | seanbright | oh, not the browser i guess... nevermind |
| 18:29.55 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: when I learned emacs, it was on a terminal that used Ctrl-S as a terminal stop sequence |
| 18:30.14 | Corydon76-dig | Hence why vi became my preferred editor |
| 18:31.03 | mnicholson | Corydon76-dig, no really, tell is the real reason |
| 18:31.31 | Corydon76-dig | mnicholson: that was pretty much it |
| 18:31.48 | Corydon76-dig | plus vi started up in a reasonable amount of time |
| 18:31.58 | mnicholson | there we go :) |
| 18:32.29 | Corydon76-dig | If everytime you wanted to save, you had to quit and restart... that was an awful lot of waiting... |
| 18:32.52 | seanbright | indeed. these days i never even exit out of emacs. |
| 18:33.08 | Corydon76-dig | This was back in the days of HTML 1.0 |
| 18:33.20 | Corydon76-dig | is an old fogey |
| 18:33.23 | mnicholson | i guess vi was partially designed for situations like that, where your terminal is not entirely ideal |
| 18:33.58 | Corydon76-dig | Emacs was pretty much designed for computers where you're the only one using it... |
| 18:34.01 | shyam_k | even these days its fun when you do logout and restart emacs and login and continue the same irc discussion as emacs running back in daemon:) |
| 18:34.15 | shyam_k | s/restart emacs/restart X/ |
| 18:34.44 | Corydon76-dig | shyam_k: there's a better tool for that, called screen(1). |
| 18:35.21 | Corydon76-dig | Emacs is a fine operating system, but it lacks a decent editor. |
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| 18:40.31 | shyam_k | well, what i feel good is that, you can have one efficient way of using the system, and you can get it for everything you want to do on the system when you are doing all your things in emacs.. |
| 18:42.01 | seanbright | i'm going to pick up lunch, does anyone want anything while i'm out? |
| 18:42.26 | leifmadsen | seanbright: I'd like a bag of minieggs |
| 18:42.27 | putnopvut | seanbright: Could you get me a mayonnaise sandwich, please? Thanks! |
| 18:43.16 | seanbright | putnopvut: you mean the usual? do you want bread this time? |
| 18:43.23 | putnopvut | Just one slice |
| 18:43.26 | seanbright | k |
| 18:43.29 | file | seanbright: I need some nonfat italian salad dressing, nonfat french salad dressing, nonfat mayo, and I think that is it |
| 18:44.05 | shyam_k | file: nonfat? ext3 will do? |
| 18:44.13 | seanbright | oh jeez |
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| 19:24.15 | russellb | looks like global_app_buf is still broken in trunk |
| 19:26.51 | Qwell | and g_eid |
| 19:27.08 | Qwell | should we just add ast_ prefixes to those? |
| 19:27.17 | Qwell | the names are sorta...meh |
| 19:30.25 | Corydon76-dig | The reason I named it global_ was intentional... |
| 19:30.46 | Qwell | or maybe make it global_eid, and add global_* ? |
| 19:32.55 | Corydon76-dig | The only question about that is whether it's unique to the Asterisk platform and won't collide with other namespaces that might be linked |
| 19:37.57 | Corydon76-dig | astglob_ perhaps? |
| 19:38.05 | Corydon76-dig | or astglobal_ |
| 19:46.09 | ScribbleJ | astglob_ sounds icky. Don't get any on you. |
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| 19:47.17 | bartpbx | hello |
| 19:47.20 | bartpbx | i |
| 19:48.18 | bartpbx | is there any reason to not add an rtsavesysname to the iax channel? |
| 19:51.56 | bartpbx | i just created a patch and will upload it to the bugtracker |
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| 19:59.46 | seanbright | for those i have discussed the cheesesteak pizza with before... |
| 19:59.49 | seanbright | http://imagebin.ca/view/f1uY8W2k.html |
| 20:00.14 | putnopvut | man, if I liked cheese, I'd probably be drooling over that. |
| 20:00.20 | russellb | oh wow |
| 20:00.23 | russellb | that looks amazing |
| 20:00.36 | seanbright | and it is |
| 20:00.54 | seanbright | you can see the end of slice 1 in the upper left corner |
| 20:00.55 | seanbright | :) |
| 20:01.02 | ctooley | mmmmm looks greasy |
| 20:01.18 | seanbright | 'tis! |
| 20:07.01 | seanbright | putnopvut: how can you not like cheese? |
| 20:07.06 | putnopvut | I'm weird |
| 20:07.10 | seanbright | that might be a deal breaker for me |
| 20:07.13 | putnopvut | I've come to terms with it though. |
| 20:07.18 | seanbright | i haven't |
| 20:07.21 | seanbright | i'm pissed. |
| 20:07.31 | putnopvut | I eat it on some things, but I will never specifically request it as an enhancement. |
| 20:07.51 | putnopvut | When I was a kid, I was always the one kid who never wanted extra cheese on the pizza. |
| 20:08.15 | seanbright | i hated you when you were a kid |
| 20:08.25 | seanbright | i had a coworker who didn't eat "white things" |
| 20:08.34 | putnopvut | that's strange. |
| 20:08.47 | putnopvut | So, if you took something that was normally green and colored it white, would he not eat it? |
| 20:08.47 | seanbright | milk, mayo, cauliflower (sp?), etc. |
| 20:08.51 | seanbright | that is correct |
| 20:09.12 | putnopvut | What about the reverse? |
| 20:09.17 | seanbright | though i never tried that |
| 20:09.20 | seanbright | nor that. |
| 20:09.41 | putnopvut | Does that include white meat, too? |
| 20:09.57 | putnopvut | Not liking a food based on its color is such a strange concept. |
| 20:10.10 | putnopvut | Like if a food is multicolored, does he pick around the white parts? |
| 20:10.14 | seanbright | heh |
| 20:10.20 | seanbright | we never discussed it to that depth |
| 20:10.25 | seanbright | but i'll give you his e-mail address |
| 20:10.28 | putnopvut | Yeah, I can understand why. |
| 20:10.40 | putnopvut | If someone told me they didn't eat white foods, I'd probably just avoid him. |
| 20:11.01 | putnopvut | I'd leave his neurosis to a psychoanalyst. |
| 20:11.09 | ScribbleJ | I will only eat things that are round. |
| 20:11.17 | ScribbleJ | So I'm cool with Mcdonald's but Wendy's is off the list. |
| 20:11.22 | putnopvut | I will only eat things that are edible. |
| 20:11.30 | seanbright | and that are not cheese |
| 20:11.44 | putnopvut | But I do eat cheese at times. |
| 20:11.52 | putnopvut | I just don't get really excited about it. |
| 20:11.56 | seanbright | right. |
| 20:11.59 | seanbright | i'm moving on. |
| 20:12.05 | seanbright | riggggggggggggggggggght..... NOW |
| 20:12.22 | putnopvut | "So how about that Asterisk Development" -- Sean Bright, many times |
| 20:12.31 | seanbright | hah |
| 20:12.37 | seanbright | or the exact opposite |
| 20:12.57 | putnopvut | yeah, you can replace "asterisk development" with "local sports team" |
| 20:13.06 | putnopvut | and it's still accurate. |
| 20:13.10 | seanbright | indeed. |
| 20:14.34 | seanbright | wow... the way reviewboard displays changes to the review's description is... interesting. |
| 20:14.46 | putnopvut | Agreed. |
| 20:15.01 | putnopvut | Its UI is far from perfect, but it is such an awesome tool. |
| 20:15.06 | seanbright | indeed. |
| 20:15.13 | seanbright | i just like complaing. |
| 20:15.19 | seanbright | complaining, too. |
| 20:16.37 | seanbright | oh... we're breaking ABI? sweet. |
| 20:17.02 | seanbright | that's not sarcasm |
| 20:17.08 | putnopvut | Agreed. |
| 20:17.21 | putnopvut | Too many times datastores are abused just so that we don't have to add to the channel structure. |
| 20:17.35 | seanbright | well we can remove stuff too, right? |
| 20:17.48 | putnopvut | yeah, I think 1.6.3 is open for ABI breakage in all directions. |
| 20:18.04 | seanbright | hawt |
| 20:18.18 | seanbright | i feel like we're alone |
| 20:18.20 | putnopvut | In fact, russellb already removed the lock_dont_use parameter from ast_channel for the ast_channel_ao2 branch. |
| 20:18.24 | seanbright | wanna tell ghost stories? |
| 20:18.28 | putnopvut | nope |
| 20:18.33 | seanbright | damn. |
| 20:18.35 | russellb | i'm lurking. |
| 20:18.36 | seanbright | i had a good one. |
| 20:18.39 | russellb | looks around |
| 20:18.44 | russellb | back to work, slackers! |
| 20:18.47 | seanbright | cd dev/as |
| 20:18.49 | seanbright | grrr |
| 20:22.17 | putnopvut | russellb: Just as a note to you, I haven't really been looking at app_chanspy.c when reviewing ast_channel_ao2 since I made those changes and I don't think I can look at those changes quite as objectively as others could. You may want to give it a look and see if I've done anything that is obviously incorrect. |
| 20:22.55 | russellb | will do! |
| 20:23.04 | seanbright | has anyone here used ack? |
| 20:23.17 | seanbright | apparently it's like grep on crack |
| 20:23.37 | putnopvut | seanbright: nope, but speaking of tools on crack, I discovered dog recently. |
| 20:23.46 | putnopvut | It's a more fully-featured cat. |
| 20:23.53 | seanbright | putnopvut: and here is my problem with dog |
| 20:24.01 | seanbright | is the name witty? yes |
| 20:24.10 | seanbright | is it IMPOSSIBLE to search for if you didn't know what it was? yes |
| 20:24.31 | seanbright | or were you kidding? |
| 20:24.32 | seanbright | :) |
| 20:24.33 | putnopvut | Well, I typed "dog shit!!!!!!" into my terminal in frustration one time. |
| 20:24.53 | putnopvut | And I was kindly informed that dog was not installed and that I'd have to install it to run it. |
| 20:25.02 | seanbright | ohh |
| 20:25.03 | seanbright | installing now |
| 20:25.08 | seanbright | man dog |
| 20:25.09 | seanbright | teehee |
| 20:25.25 | seanbright | creates an open source util called 'teats' |
| 20:25.38 | putnopvut | man teats |
| 20:26.10 | seanbright | damn... you can cat to a socket? hot |
| 20:26.37 | putnopvut | well, you can dog to a socket |
| 20:26.52 | seanbright | apparently with 'ack' you can do "ack --nosvn --notxt whatever" |
| 20:26.58 | putnopvut | cool |
| 20:26.59 | seanbright | and it supports 125 billion of those flags |
| 20:28.29 | putnopvut | heh, doing 'man ack' shows *none* of them and just gushes about how well ack can handle Japanese characters. |
| 20:28.36 | putnopvut | Wait... |
| 20:28.42 | putnopvut | I have a different 'ack' than you |
| 20:28.47 | seanbright | http://betterthangrep.com/ |
| 20:29.09 | seanbright | oh. i was wrong about both of those command line flags :) |
| 20:29.18 | seanbright | but the gist was close |
| 20:29.34 | seanbright | sudo aptitude install ack-grep |
| 20:30.23 | seanbright | wow... and it's actually pretty awesome |
| 20:30.43 | putnopvut | Ah, on Ubuntu the package is called ack-grep |
| 20:31.18 | seanbright | look up 2 lines |
| 20:31.36 | putnopvut | pwnt |
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| 20:42.58 | eliel | Is there a way to get the current ref_counter of an astobj2? (for debugging purposes) |
| 20:44.11 | putnopvut | eliel: yes, ao2_ref returns the refcount of the object |
| 20:44.23 | putnopvut | So you can use ao2_ref(obj, 0) to find the current refcount. |
| 20:44.55 | eliel | putnopvut: thanks! I wasn't able to find it in the code... |
| 21:00.15 | snuff-home | mm eliel when i played ao2 ref games.. i always use 'ao2_t_*' versions as its easier to read output from utils/refcount |
| 21:02.58 | eliel | ao2_ref is enough at the moment... thanks anyway |
| 21:03.43 | snuff-home | mm putnopvut.. maybe that should be added to the doxygen.. |
| 21:03.57 | snuff-home | as i dont see it mentioned in the .h |
| 21:03.59 | putnopvut | snuff-home: yeah, if it's not there, it should be added. |
| 21:05.01 | putnopvut | snuff-home: it's mentioned in astobj2.h |
| 21:05.12 | putnopvut | The \return tag |
| 21:07.24 | putnopvut | For my next trick, I'm thinking of writing a module in the test directory to test pattern matching. |
| 21:07.33 | putnopvut | I think it would be useful. |
| 21:07.41 | snuff-home | mm.. i just figured it might have been a note that if u specified 0 u did get the count.. |
| 21:08.37 | snuff-home | i guess its inferred.. i blame my being up early |
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| 21:33.08 | kpfleming | snuff-home: right, the point is that you *always* get the count. specifying zero just means you get the count without modifying it. |
| 21:35.38 | snuff-home | i think that's why i dont attempt to do too much coding.. :) |
| 21:37.11 | snuff-home | i fix failed applying patches on bug tracker etc.. nothin special |
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| 22:34.00 | pmhaddad | happy weekend everyone! |
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| 23:12.45 | seanbright | what does | do in a dialplan expression? bitwise OR? |
| 23:13.07 | seanbright | $[$X | $Y] |
| 23:14.25 | snuff-home | good q seanbright |
| 23:14.32 | seanbright | thanks snuff-home |
| 23:16.32 | snuff-home | i'm pretty sure its logical or |
| 23:16.41 | seanbright | k |
| 23:17.32 | snuff-home | at least voip-info says.. |
| 23:17.46 | seanbright | yeah, i see as much in ast_expr.fl |
| 23:23.46 | tzafrir_laptop | Up to what version is '|' optionally converted to , ? |
| 23:25.00 | seanbright | i think there is a conf flag for it |
| 23:25.07 | seanbright | in everything since 1.4 |
| 23:25.22 | seanbright | i might be lying though |
| 23:29.09 | snuff-home | mm sounds right seanbright |